From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jul 16 06:05:17 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA23271 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 06:05:17 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA23246 for ; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 06:05:12 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA00682; Sun, 16 Jul 1995 18:05:01 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199507160835.SAA00682@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: multi IO boards To: uk1@irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (Ulf Kieber) Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 18:05:00 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, bugs@sax.sax.de, j@uriah.heep.sax.de In-Reply-To: <199507141641.AA19457@irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de> from "Ulf Kieber" at Jul 14, 95 06:41:23 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2516 Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Ulf Kieber stands accused of saying: > we currently discuss buying a multi IO card, and I'd need some help to > make the proper decision. As the market for that kinda equipment is > rather narrow in Germany, I'm having a very hard time getting my hands > on appropriate documentation. The market is generally pretty rough. You may have a (slightly) better time if you try talking to a supplier that handles the industrial control business, or one that's into SCO systems 8) > We had an offer for a BocaBoard 1004 and BocaBoard 1008, both not > usable for our purposes, because they are lacking modem control. The > IOAT66 seems to be ok, but has some restriction: only 6 ports, can > only use IRQ 4 and 5 as shared IRQs (IRQ 4 is already used for our COM > console, and hence cannot be freed). Yuck. Stay away. > I'd like to hear, if there are any other cards available (I think > there is at least an AST 8 port card I'd like to see documentation > for), meeting the following requirements: There's a number of 8-port AST compatibles that work quite well; you can get them with 16550's already onboard. (Mandatory for FreeBSD). > - all ports fifo buffered, > - shared IRQ possible (the more choices [especially the IRQs above 8] > the better), > - hardware modem control, > - 8 or 16 ports (best choice would be an 8 port card with an upgrade > option to 16 ports, maybe just some empty sockets on the board), 8 ports is the best I've seen. > - DB25 connectors, if possible, Not very easy 8) the 4-port boards have a D37 connector, the 8-port ones usually have a double-slot backplane with two D37's. The cards come with D37 to D-25 adapters, so you do eventually get the D25's. > - should of course be supported by FreeBSD. :) There's ten or so sites around here using them with no trouble at all. > Rodney Grimes told me to look into the BocaBoard 2016, but asked me to > verify if it meets our requirements. The boards in use here are PC-COM boards, the "8 port RS232 FIFO card" > Ulf Kieber Hope that's of some use. > Don't expect me to be a breeder, and I won't assume you're a fag. I _like_ that 8) -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jul 17 02:10:55 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA17041 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 02:10:55 -0700 Received: from lobo.yahoo.com (filo@[205.216.162.12]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA17033 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 02:10:52 -0700 Received: (from filo@localhost) by lobo.yahoo.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id CAA16517 for hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 02:10:50 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 02:10:50 -0700 From: David Filo Message-Id: <199507170910.CAA16517@lobo.yahoo.com> To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Ideal hardware config for FreeBSD? Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I would appreciate suggestions on what people feel is the best hardware setup to run FreeBSD for highest performance. Mainly I'm interested in which SCSI and Ethernet cards to use. Currently we're using Buslogic 946C and 3Com 3c509 cards along with an ASUS P54TP4 motherboard and a Pentium 100. The Buslogic card is currently giving us problems because it's not being recognized as a PCI device (instead it shows up as an async ISA device). I've seen this problem discussed in the archives but didn't see any solutions. Only solution I have is to use an older version of the Buslogic firmware. That is, we have problems with version 4.25J while version 4.23 seems to work fine. Which SCSI card is generally thought to give the best performance? As for Ethernet, we aren't having any problems with the 3Com card. Just wondering if there is a better solution, like the 3Com 3c590 for example assuming it's supported. So in general any info on how to construct a high performance FreeBSD box would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.. David Filo From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jul 17 02:38:13 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA18827 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 02:38:13 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA18818 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 02:38:09 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id CAA01233; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 02:38:35 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199507170938.CAA01233@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Ideal hardware config for FreeBSD? To: filo@yahoo.com (David Filo) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 02:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507170910.CAA16517@lobo.yahoo.com> from "David Filo" at Jul 17, 95 02:10:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 5934 Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi, > > I would appreciate suggestions on what people feel is the best > hardware setup to run FreeBSD for highest performance. Mainly I'm > interested in which SCSI and Ethernet cards to use. Currently we're > using Buslogic 946C and 3Com 3c509 cards along with an ASUS P54TP4 > motherboard and a Pentium 100. For something that works very well, and reasonably fast use an ASUS SC-200 NCR 53C810 based controller (in stock $72.00), and a Compex ENET32-PCI (in stock $103.00) for 10Mb/s or SMC 9332 (in stock $156.00) for 10/100Mb/s. > The Buslogic card is currently giving us problems because it's not > being recognized as a PCI device (instead it shows up as an async ISA > device). I've seen this problem discussed in the archives but didn't > see any solutions. Only solution I have is to use an older version of > the Buslogic firmware. That is, we have problems with version 4.25J > while version 4.23 seems to work fine. Which SCSI card is generally > thought to give the best performance? The bt946 and aha2940 may have a slight edge over the NCR card due to the fact they have local memory for firmware, but given the recent headaches with bt946 cards I would either go for an NCR card or a 2940, given cost I would (and am) running NCR cards. I have yet to get the 946C revision E cards to play cleanly in a system, though I can now get them to at least boot on 4 different MB's. At the end of this email is a patch that has been commited to FreeBSD that will snap these revision E boards into sync mode for you (this is relative to 2.0.5R): Can you describe the ``problems'' you see running the 4.25J firmware? I am getting device timeouts mostly, which it does not recover from, so once one of the occurs it dies. On another MB it cases EISA watchdog times outs (and this is a PCI/ISA board, go figure :-(). > As for Ethernet, we aren't having any problems with the 3Com card. > Just wondering if there is a better solution, like the 3Com 3c590 for > example assuming it's supported. Get the Compex card, can't say enough about them, the FreeBSD driver for this card is one of the best drivers we have! (This is a DEC 21040 based card that uses the if_de.c driver by Matt Thomas.) It is the card I sell with every PCI system that wants ethernet, in my book there are no other options for PCI 10Mb/s ethernet. > So in general any info on how to construct a high performance FreeBSD > box would be greatly appreciated. Talk to me via email or telephone (finger my email address for the phone number) that is what I do for a living now :-) Index: bt742a.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/isa/bt742a.c,v retrieving revision 1.36 retrieving revision 1.38 diff -c -r1.36 -r1.38 *** 1.36 1995/05/30 08:01:21 --- 1.38 1995/06/25 17:45:05 *************** *** 12,18 **** * on the understanding that TFS is not responsible for the correct * functioning of this software in any circumstances. * ! * $Id: bt742a.c,v 1.36 1995/05/30 08:01:21 rgrimes Exp $ */ /* --- 12,18 ---- * on the understanding that TFS is not responsible for the correct * functioning of this software in any circumstances. * ! * $Id: bt742a.c,v 1.38 1995/06/25 17:45:05 joerg Exp $ */ /* *************** *** 121,128 **** /* The following command appeared at FirmWare 3.31 */ #define BT_ROUND_ROBIN 0x8f /* Enable/Disable(default) round robin */ ! #define BT_DISABLE 0x00 /* Parameter value for Disable */ ! #define BT_ENABLE 0x01 /* Parameter value for Enable */ struct bt_cmd_buf { u_char byte[16]; --- 121,128 ---- /* The following command appeared at FirmWare 3.31 */ #define BT_ROUND_ROBIN 0x8f /* Enable/Disable(default) round robin */ ! #define BT_STRICT_ROUND_ROBIN 0x00 /* Parameter value for strict mode */ ! #define BT_AGRES_ROUND_ROBIN 0x01 /* Parameter value for backword comp */ struct bt_cmd_buf { u_char byte[16]; *************** *** 334,340 **** u_char num_mbx; /* Number of mailbox */ int32 mbx_base; /* mailbox base address */ struct { ! u_char resv1:2; /* ??? */ u_char maxsync:1; /* ON: 10MB/s , OFF: 5MB/s */ u_char resv2:2; /* ??? */ u_char sync:1; /* ON: Sync, OFF: async ONLY!! */ --- 334,341 ---- u_char num_mbx; /* Number of mailbox */ int32 mbx_base; /* mailbox base address */ struct { ! u_char resv1:1; /* ??? */ ! u_char force:1; /* ON: force sync */ u_char maxsync:1; /* ON: 10MB/s , OFF: 5MB/s */ u_char resv2:2; /* ??? */ u_char sync:1; /* ON: Sync, OFF: async ONLY!! */ *************** *** 1306,1311 **** --- 1307,1317 ---- * If board has a capbility of Syncrhonouse mode, * Get a SCSI Synchronous value */ + + if (info->s.force) { /* Assume fast sync capability */ + info->s.sync = 1; /* It's appear at 4.25? version */ + info->s.maxsync = 1; + } if ( info->s.sync ) { bt_cmd(unit, 1, sizeof(sync), 100, &sync,BT_GET_SYNC_VALUE,sizeof(sync)); *************** *** 1383,1392 **** * BT_ROUND_ROBIN command amurai@spec.co.jp */ if ( bID.firm_revision >= '3' ) { ! printf("bt%d: Enabling Round robin scheme\n", unit); ! bt_cmd(unit, 1, 0, 0, 0, BT_ROUND_ROBIN, BT_ENABLE); } else { ! printf("bt%d: Not Enabling Round robin scheme\n", unit); } } --- 1389,1398 ---- * BT_ROUND_ROBIN command amurai@spec.co.jp */ if ( bID.firm_revision >= '3' ) { ! printf("bt%d: Using Strict Round robin scheme\n", unit); ! bt_cmd(unit, 1, 0, 0, 0, BT_ROUND_ROBIN, BT_STRICT_ROUND_ROBIN); } else { ! printf("bt%d: Not using Strict Round robin scheme\n", unit); } } -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jul 17 06:22:21 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA29449 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 06:22:21 -0700 Received: from ess.harris.com (su15a.ess.harris.com [130.41.1.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA29442 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 06:22:19 -0700 Received: from borg.ess.harris.com (suw2k.ess.harris.com) by ess.harris.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA08464; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 09:22:15 -0400 Received: by borg.ess.harris.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06009; Mon, 17 Jul 95 09:19:49 EDT Date: Mon, 17 Jul 95 09:19:49 EDT From: jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com (James Leppek) Message-Id: <9507171319.AA06009@borg.ess.harris.com> To: freebsd-hardware@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: 3c589 pcmcia card trouble Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone have any programming information on 3c589b-COMBO? The card works in TP mode but nothing happens for thinnet connections. I have tried various LINK options with no luck and really need BNC. any hints or words of wisdom that would help are appreciated Thanks Jim Leppek jleppek@harris.com From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 18 06:30:15 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA29128 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 06:30:15 -0700 Received: from bigbird.vmicls.com (bigbird.vmicls.com [198.17.96.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA29098 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 06:30:08 -0700 Received: from gonzo by bigbird.vmicls.com (8.6.9/SMI-4.1-vmicls-master-host-1) id JAA19266; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 09:30:56 -0400 From: Jerry.Kendall@vmicls.com (Jerry Kendall) Organization: VMI Communications and Learning Systems Received: by gonzo (5.0/vmi-client-host-1) id AA24133; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 09:30:55 +0500 Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 09:30:55 +0500 Message-Id: <9507181330.AA24133.gonzo@vmicls.com> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sony CDU-31A CD-ROM X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII content-length: 96 Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I am looking to see if there is anybody who has created a device driver for this CD-ROM. Jerry From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 18 06:39:48 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA01237 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 06:39:48 -0700 Received: from zyqad.co.uk (zyqad.demon.co.uk [158.152.135.161]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA01202 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 06:39:30 -0700 Received: from localhost by zyqad.co.uk; (5.65/1.1.8.2/21Apr95-0317PM) id AA27639; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 13:56:18 +0100 Message-Id: <9507181256.AA27639@zyqad.co.uk> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: EIDE controller cards Date: Tue, 18 Jul 95 13:56:17 +0100 From: John Richards X-Mts: smtp Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I read somewhere, possibly the newsgroup, that FreeBSD does not support EIDE controller cards except when they are operating as IDE controller cards. Is this true?? I have a FreeBSD machine at home, 1.0.5.1(R), running on a 486DX33 8MB RAM, 210 & 250 MB hard disks. This works fine and I am going to upgrade to 2.x real soon now - honest. At the same time I was going to upgrade my machine - possibly to a DX466 and add a bit more disk. Now if EIDE controllers are not supported I've got to ditch one of my disks - haven't I?? IDE controllers will only control 2 hard disks is my understanding. The secondary reason for this question is that I am going to recommend that our company buys a PC to run FreeBSD as the network/file/name/news/mail server. This would free a bit of load from the development machine that is curently doing this as well. Now if FreeBSD doesn't support EIDE I've got to reconsider the spec of the machine to do this job. I don't think the company will run to the cost of SCSI - although if I could get the DAT drive to run off the PC SCSI bus ... All info on the topic gratefully received. John ******************************************************************************** John Richards * email : john@zyqad.co.uk Zyqad Ltd, * Suite 25, GPT Business Park, * Technology Drive, Beeston * tel : 44 (0)115 922 0820 NOTTINGHAM. NG9 2ND. * fax : 44 (0)115 967 8374 ******************************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 18 16:02:59 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA20031 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 16:02:59 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA20024 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 16:02:57 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA07018; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 08:47:06 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199507182317.IAA07018@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: EIDE controller cards To: john@zyqad.co.uk (John Richards) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 08:47:05 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9507181256.AA27639@zyqad.co.uk> from "John Richards" at Jul 18, 95 01:56:17 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2057 Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk John Richards stands accused of saying: > I read somewhere, possibly the newsgroup, that FreeBSD does not support EIDE > controller cards except when they are operating as IDE controller cards. Is > this true?? "yes", insofar as FreeBSD doesn't make many rash assumptions about a drive's compliance with the newer standards.... > I have a FreeBSD machine at home, 1.0.5.1(R), running on a 486DX33 8MB RAM, 210 > & 250 MB hard disks. This works fine and I am going to upgrade to 2.x real soon > now - honest. At the same time I was going to upgrade my machine - possibly to > a DX466 and add a bit more disk. Now if EIDE controllers are not supported I've > got to ditch one of my disks - haven't I?? IDE controllers will only control 2 > hard disks is my understanding. Hmm. I'd heard rumours that someone had three disks running off an IDE controller, but I can't recall how they were doing it 8( > The secondary reason for this question is that I am going to recommend that our > company buys a PC to run FreeBSD as the network/file/name/news/mail server. > This would free a bit of load from the development machine that is curently > doing this as well. Now if FreeBSD doesn't support EIDE I've got to reconsider > the spec of the machine to do this job. I don't think the company will run to > the cost of SCSI - although if I could get the DAT drive to run off the PC SCSI > bus ... IDE is, in general, a very poor choice for any sort of serious system; you will be much better off going for a SCSI solution; and yes, being able to hang a DAT off the box is one good reason for doing it. > John Richards * email : john@zyqad.co.uk -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 19 15:48:27 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA14938 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 15:48:27 -0700 Received: from russian-club.student.harvard.edu (russian-club.student.harvard.edu [140.247.73.248]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA14920 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 15:48:22 -0700 Received: (from itsymbal@localhost) by russian-club.student.harvard.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA09496; Wed, 19 Jul 1995 18:46:17 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 18:46:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Ilya Tsymbal To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Is there an archive of this list? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I just joined the mailing list. I am about to build a new system on which I will run FreeBSD. I need a list of hardware from which to choose; There is a list in the FAQ, but I really would like more info. For example, there is no entry ( or I didn't see it) for video cards, or motherboards. In any case, I don't want to make anyone repeat what was said here before I joined, if possible. Is there an archive of discussion on this mailing list, which I could go through? Alternatively, is there a list (other than the FAQ - I have looked at bothe HTML verison and the one on the FTP site) of hardware that works? Thanks, Ilya Tsymbal ------------ Ilya Tsymbal Tsymbal Enterprises President http://www.tsymbal.com/tsymbal/ All opinions expressed are definitely those of my employer. From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jul 20 01:07:18 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id BAA26987 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jul 1995 01:07:18 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA26979 for ; Thu, 20 Jul 1995 01:07:12 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id KAA12287 ; Thu, 20 Jul 1995 10:07:05 +0200 Received: from (roberto@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) id KAA14615 ; Thu, 20 Jul 1995 10:07:05 +0200 From: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Message-Id: <199507200807.KAA14615@blaise.ibp.fr> Subject: Re: Is there an archive of this list? To: itsymbal@tsymbal.com (Ilya Tsymbal) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 10:07:05 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Ilya Tsymbal" at Jul 19, 95 06:46:16 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#880 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 505 Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > There is a list in the FAQ, but I really would like more info. For > example, there is no entry ( or I didn't see it) for video cards, or > motherboards. For otherboards, just ask Rod :-) As for video cards, we support anything that XFree86 supports, it is not just FreeBSD dependent. We should probably put a pointer to the XFree hardware list somewhere... -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT #5: Fri Jul 14 12:28:04 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jul 20 14:48:35 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA26137 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jul 1995 14:48:35 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA26130 for ; Thu, 20 Jul 1995 14:48:28 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA10010 for hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Jul 1995 14:48:44 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199507202148.OAA10010@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Super price on memory... To: hardware@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 14:48:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 519 Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk One of my distributors just called me with a minor purchasing error and has: Qty 6 16MBx9-70nS 30 Pin SIMMS he needs to dump, I can pass these on to first come buyers at $423.00 each, + shipping. You do not need to buy all of them if you only want 2 or 4 that is fine. Do not really want to split them to singles. Full 1 year warranty. These are _new_ parts. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jul 21 05:07:55 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id FAA25838 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 05:07:55 -0700 Received: from hades.id.net (hades.id.net [152.160.9.12]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA25832 for ; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 05:07:53 -0700 Received: (from rls@localhost) by hades.id.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA06744; Thu, 20 Jul 1995 16:09:01 -0400 From: Robert Shady Message-Id: <199507202009.QAA06744@hades.id.net> Subject: Re: Super price on memory... To: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 16:09:01 -0400 (EDT) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507202148.OAA10010@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Jul 20, 95 02:48:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 953 Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > One of my distributors just called me with a minor purchasing > error and has: > > Qty 6 16MBx9-70nS 30 Pin SIMMS he needs to dump, I can pass > these on to first come buyers at $423.00 each, + shipping. > > You do not need to buy all of them if you only want 2 or 4 > that is fine. Do not really want to split them to singles. > > Full 1 year warranty. These are _new_ parts. Are you sure these are 30 Pin simms? Or was that the purchasing error.. ;) -- Rob === _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ Innovative Data Services Serving South-Eastern Michigan Internet Service Provider / Hardware Sales / Consulting Services Voice: (810)348-0000 / Fax: (810)348-9430 / Web: http://www.id.net From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jul 21 08:56:04 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA07265 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 08:56:04 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA07257 for ; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 08:56:02 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA12841; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 08:54:05 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199507211554.IAA12841@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Super price on memory... To: rls@hades.id.net (Robert Shady) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 08:54:05 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199507202009.QAA06744@hades.id.net> from "Robert Shady" at Jul 20, 95 04:09:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 704 Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > One of my distributors just called me with a minor purchasing > > error and has: > > > > Qty 6 16MBx9-70nS 30 Pin SIMMS he needs to dump, I can pass > > these on to first come buyers at $423.00 each, + shipping. > > > > You do not need to buy all of them if you only want 2 or 4 > > that is fine. Do not really want to split them to singles. > > > > Full 1 year warranty. These are _new_ parts. > > Are you sure these are 30 Pin simms? Yes these are 30 pin simms > Or was that the purchasing error.. ;) I didn't ask, but most likely! -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jul 21 12:23:03 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA19692 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 12:23:03 -0700 Received: from vegemite.Stanford.EDU (vegemite.Stanford.EDU [36.159.0.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA19686 for ; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 12:23:02 -0700 Received: (hlew@localhost) by vegemite.Stanford.EDU (8.6.10/8.6.4) id MAA20449; Fri, 21 Jul 1995 12:22:30 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 12:22:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Howard Lew To: Michael Smith cc: John Richards , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: EIDE controller cards In-Reply-To: <199507182317.IAA07018@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Jul 1995, Michael Smith wrote: > John Richards stands accused of saying: > > I read somewhere, possibly the newsgroup, that FreeBSD does not support EIDE > > controller cards except when they are operating as IDE controller cards. Is > > this true?? > > "yes", insofar as FreeBSD doesn't make many rash assumptions about a drive's > compliance with the newer standards.... > > > I have a FreeBSD machine at home, 1.0.5.1(R), running on a 486DX33 8MB RAM, 210 > > & 250 MB hard disks. This works fine and I am going to upgrade to 2.x real soon > > now - honest. At the same time I was going to upgrade my machine - possibly to > > a DX466 and add a bit more disk. Now if EIDE controllers are not supported I've > > got to ditch one of my disks - haven't I?? IDE controllers will only control 2 > > hard disks is my understanding. > > Hmm. I'd heard rumours that someone had three disks running off an IDE > controller, but I can't recall how they were doing it 8( Hmmm.... Well, it is possible with a compatible 4HD/2FD controller. FreeBSD sees the first 2 hard drives with wdc0 and the second two as wdc1. But this is not so for all EIDE 4HD/2FD controllers. For example, the DTC EIDE 2278VL one recognizes the 3rd and 4th drives perfectly by FreeBSD although it appears slow on my system. FreeBSD for some reason does not recognize the second IDE channel on the Holtek one even though the port address is identical according to the spec sheet. But is gave me the fastest DOS speeds with no drivers and with drivers (There are speed jumpers on the controller card, but if you set them too fast they can corrupt disk data). /--------------------------------------\ / Howard Lew \ < Email: hlew@genome.stanford.edu > \ http://www.shoppersnet.com / \--------------------------------------/