From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Dec 8 14:51:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA28213 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:51:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoom.bga.com (root@zoom.realtime.net [205.238.128.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA28206 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:51:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from wep54-133 (wep54-133.camel.com [204.251.34.204]) by zoom.bga.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA20312 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 16:51:34 -0600 Message-ID: <32AB4676.E11@camel.com> Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 16:51:34 -0600 From: d b dews X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: newbie needs freebsd dial-in advice Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After two months of failures replaced my old 486 mother board (with 4 megs of RAM) with a Pentium 100MHZ (with 32 megs of RAM) and, using the exact same Freebsd boot diskette achieved a successful ftp install. Whatever version was out there Sunday Dec 8th I got! It found that nasty 3com III network card and my dedicated 128K ISDN line and ran perfectly. There is a God! (1). What should I hang on this box to allow folks to dial in and get a tcp/ip connection? I only need about 4 incoming lines working. What package and hardware? (I have servers already up and running on an NT box.) (2). Does anyone know if WebBBS works with FreeBSD? Or anything similar to WebBBS that does? What's that? Try http://www.webbbs.com From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 9 00:15:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA16371 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 00:15:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from eternal.dusk.net (root@eternal.dusk.net [207.219.16.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id AAA16363 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 00:15:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from vlad@localhost) by eternal.dusk.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) id EAA00902 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 04:13:39 -0400 (AST) From: Christian Hochhold Message-Id: <199612090813.EAA00902@eternal.dusk.net> Subject: Backup.. To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 04:13:39 -0400 (AST) X-URL: http://www.dusk.net & http://www.vampires.net X-Moto: Life for today and let the future take care of itself X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello =) I am looking for recommendations as to what to use for a backup. I am leaning towars a jaz drive due to its storage capacity, however am not absolutely certain. (I'm looking for a good, fairly fast type of backup that is also priced decently). Could someone enlighten me as to what the pro's / con's ( other than the obvious ones ) are, and also perhaps make a recommendation. Thanks in advance, Christian -- Christian Hochhold | Dusk.net Internet Services From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 9 06:17:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id GAA04884 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 06:17:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from surf.iaehv.nl (root@surf.IAEhv.nl [194.151.66.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id GAA04879 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 06:17:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wjw@localhost) by surf.iaehv.nl (8.8.2/8.8.2) id PAA14847 for isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:14:29 +0100 (MET) From: Willem Jan Withagen Message-Id: <199612091414.PAA14847@surf.iaehv.nl> Subject: 10Mb/100Mb switches To: isp@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:14:29 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Sofar we've been able to mange everything on Thinnet and simple UTP/10Mb. BUT the days have come that certain parts of the network could do with either 10Mb or 100Mb switched. Now one more problem is that we're a FreeBSD (and Win'95 for personal use) only shop. So I have two decissions to make: (or are there more open ends?) 1) What brand of switches should I use? 1a) Which switches should I avoid? 2) Do I need a SNMP managment system (other than the FreeBSD-CMU stuff) 2a) What packages would you advice? Thanx, Willem Jan Withagen -- Internet Access Eindhoven BV., voice: +31-40-2438330, data: +31-40-2439436 P.O. 928, 5600 AX Eindhoven, The Netherlands Full Internet connectivity for only fl 12.95 a month. Call now, and login as 'new'. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 9 08:02:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA12513 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 08:02:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [204.160.242.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA12508 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 08:02:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from harlie (bastion.bfd.com [204.160.242.2]) by horst.bfd.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA01526; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 08:01:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 08:01:43 -0800 (PST) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" X-Sender: ejs@harlie To: Willem Jan Withagen cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 10Mb/100Mb switches In-Reply-To: <199612091414.PAA14847@surf.iaehv.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 9 Dec 1996, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > Sofar we've been able to mange everything on Thinnet and simple UTP/10Mb. > > BUT the days have come that certain parts of the network could do with > either 10Mb or 100Mb switched. Now one more problem is that we're a > FreeBSD (and Win'95 for personal use) only shop. > > So I have two decissions to make: (or are there more open ends?) > 1) What brand of switches should I use? > 1a) Which switches should I avoid? > 2) Do I need a SNMP managment system (other than the FreeBSD-CMU stuff) > 2a) What packages would you advice? We recently priced out a 10Mb switched hub for a network of about 22 computers, and the only hub even close to cost effective was the 3Com SuperStack II 1000, with 24 10Mb ports and one 100Mb port, all switched. There was only one other manufacturer that came close, because everyone else had low density switches, so we were going to have to string together 4-6 hubs to get enough ports. We have the switch now, but haven't set it up yet. Cost somewhere around $2900. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 9 08:54:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA15129 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 08:54:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from wave.cyberbeach.net (wave.cyberbeach.net [205.150.79.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA15112 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 08:54:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from home.cyberbeach.net (home.cyberbeach.net [205.150.79.15]) by wave.cyberbeach.net (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id LAA03157; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:54:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by home.cyberbeach.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BBE5C7.87140770@home.cyberbeach.net>; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:53:01 -0500 Message-ID: <01BBE5C7.87140770@home.cyberbeach.net> From: Kurt Schafer To: "'Willem Jan Withagen'" Cc: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: 10Mb/100Mb switches Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:52:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by freefall.freebsd.org id IAA15117 Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We've got a 3Com Superstack II switch going right now with no problems. 24 switched 10mbit ports and one 100mbit port, with optional downlink modules for stacking more superstack components. Check out the specs on 3com's Superstack system at www.3com.com ---------- From: Willem Jan Withagen Sent: Monday, December 09, 1996 9:14 AM To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: 10Mb/100Mb switches Hi, Sofar we've been able to mange everything on Thinnet and simple UTP/10Mb. BUT the days have come that certain parts of the network could do with either 10Mb or 100Mb switched. Now one more problem is that we're a FreeBSD (and Win'95 for personal use) only shop. So I have two decissions to make: (or are there more open ends?) 1) What brand of switches should I use? 1a) Which switches should I avoid? 2) Do I need a SNMP managment system (other than the FreeBSD-CMU stuff) 2a) What packages would you advice? Thanx, Willem Jan Withagen -- Internet Access Eindhoven BV., voice: +31-40-2438330, data: +31-40-2439436 P.O. 928, 5600 AX Eindhoven, The Netherlands Full Internet connectivity for only fl 12.95 a month. Call now, and login as 'new'. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 9 09:24:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA16501 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 09:24:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from bifrost.novalink.com (root@bifrost.novalink.com [192.233.90.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA16494 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 09:24:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from foundation.novalink.com ([204.166.232.114]) by bifrost.novalink.com with SMTP id <2763-10>; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 12:24:26 -0800 Message-ID: <32AC0477.5EA0@novalink.com> Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 12:22:15 +0000 From: Verdell Hicks Reply-To: verdell@novalink.com Organization: Novalink USA X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: News expiration Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello Everyone, Is this line telling me it needs the news server down in order to run? Or that it needs some more command line switches to run while news is still up. I think this is a fairly good indication as to why my news server is filling up and not expiring articles properly. Also will it hurt to run news.daily as root until I can get this problem here solved? expire begin Mon Dec 9 12:11:17 PST 1996: (-v1) Can't reserve server Article lines processed 0 Articles retained 0 Entries expired 0 Files unlinked 0 Old entries dropped 0 Old entries retained 0 expire end Mon Dec 9 12:11:21 PST 1996 Verdell Hicks Novalink USA Systems Administration From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 9 09:35:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA17214 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 09:35:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from inetsrv.wtrt.net (inetsrv.wtrt.net [205.231.181.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA17209; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 09:35:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from allenh.wtrt.net (local2.wtrt.net [205.231.181.228]) by inetsrv.wtrt.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA18600; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:36:44 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199612091736.LAA18600@inetsrv.wtrt.net> From: "Allen Hyer" To: , Subject: remote printers Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:35:30 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to set up a remote printer and need some help. I have a FreeBSD box running 2.1.6-RELEASE. I also have an HP5si with a JetDirect card in it. I have enabled TCP/IP on the printer, assigned it an ip, etc. Now, I want to print from the FreeBSD box to this printer. I have used the instructions in the handbook. I am just trying to print plain text, nothing fancy. The text gets to the printer, with one problem. At the end of a line of text, the printer does a newline, but not a carriage return. I have tried using an input filter, to no avail. Can you use an input filter on a remote printer? If not, any idea how I can get this to work? I really don't want to change the configuration of the printer, as it also serves the Novell LAN and the AS/400. Thanks, Allen Hyer System Administrator West Texas Rural Telephone From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 9 10:02:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA18568 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:02:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from tarpon.exis.net (stefan@tarpon.exis.net [205.252.72.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA18563 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:02:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from stefan@localhost) by tarpon.exis.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) id NAA24747; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:20:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:20:39 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Molnar To: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" cc: Willem Jan Withagen , isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 10Mb/100Mb switches In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > We recently priced out a 10Mb switched hub for a network of about 22 > computers, and the only hub even close to cost effective was the 3Com > SuperStack II 1000, with 24 10Mb ports and one 100Mb port, all switched. > There was only one other manufacturer that came close, because everyone > else had low density switches, so we were going to have to string together > 4-6 hubs to get enough ports. We overloaded ours with 9 PM2e It could not handel the RIP. How are you going to string them together? The high end synoptics/Bay network ones that we have use a 2GigaBit SCSI backplane. It is full dulplex 100MB so it runs very sweet. Stefan -------------------------------------------- Stefan Molnar Team Exis.Net stefan@exis.net Member EFF Slightly Silly Team OS/2 east-coast-ambassador@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU "She turned me into a Newt! A Newt? I got better." -Monty Python -------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 9 10:40:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA20881 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:40:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from super-g.inch.com (spork@super-g.com [204.178.32.161]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA20876 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:40:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (spork@localhost) by super-g.inch.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA02273; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:38:05 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 12:38:04 -0600 (CST) From: "S(pork)" X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Willem Jan Withagen cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 10Mb/100Mb switches In-Reply-To: <199612091414.PAA14847@surf.iaehv.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, We currently have two different switches in use, and neither is a 3Com (I was disappointed to see that for that much money there WERE 24 ports, but only SIX segments...). One relatively new one is the BayStack 301 Workgroup switch. At about $2800 for 24 ports (2 10/100) it's a bit pricey, but it has full inbound filtering rules that allow for some pretty neat things. We've had an HP AdvanceStack Switch100 up for some time now, and it's relatively simple (no filtering rules) but it does have 16 distinct segments which has been enough for us so far. It's really helped breathe new life into our lan. We caught this one for about $1800 after much searching. Both are SNMP-able, the HP does telnet as well; the Bay comes with Windoze SW that's OK but not perfect... Charles On Mon, 9 Dec 1996, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > Hi, > > Sofar we've been able to mange everything on Thinnet and simple UTP/10Mb. > > BUT the days have come that certain parts of the network could do with > either 10Mb or 100Mb switched. Now one more problem is that we're a > FreeBSD (and Win'95 for personal use) only shop. > > So I have two decissions to make: (or are there more open ends?) > 1) What brand of switches should I use? > 1a) Which switches should I avoid? > 2) Do I need a SNMP managment system (other than the FreeBSD-CMU stuff) > 2a) What packages would you advice? > > Thanx, > Willem Jan Withagen > > -- > Internet Access Eindhoven BV., voice: +31-40-2438330, data: +31-40-2439436 > P.O. 928, 5600 AX Eindhoven, The Netherlands > Full Internet connectivity for only fl 12.95 a month. > Call now, and login as 'new'. > From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 9 10:45:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA21067 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:45:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from luke.cpl.net (root@[206.85.246.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA21059 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:45:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by luke.cpl.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA00825 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:45:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:45:24 -0800 (PST) From: Shawn Ramsey X-Sender: root@luke.cpl.net To: isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe isp From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 9 10:47:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA21138 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:47:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from luke.cpl.net (root@[206.85.246.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA21132 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:47:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by luke.cpl.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA00849 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:47:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:47:57 -0800 (PST) From: Shawn Ramsey X-Sender: root@luke.cpl.net To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe freebsd-isp From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 9 11:12:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA22633 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:12:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from tarpon.exis.net (stefan@tarpon.exis.net [205.252.72.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA22627 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:12:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from stefan@localhost) by tarpon.exis.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) id OAA25189; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 14:31:03 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 14:31:02 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Molnar To: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" cc: Willem Jan Withagen , isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 10Mb/100Mb switches In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > It has 24 ports, so we don't need to string them together. We will be > adding a 100Mb unswitched hub for new units (would have just upgraded the > machines to 100Mb, but not practical due to ancient OS), but this is the > only switched port we need. Will it do full duplex?? Half duplex hurts on 100MB Stefan -------------------------------------------- Stefan Molnar Team Exis.Net stefan@exis.net Member EFF Slightly Silly Team OS/2 east-coast-ambassador@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU "She turned me into a Newt! A Newt? I got better." -Monty Python -------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 9 11:53:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA26867 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:53:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA26854 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:53:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from horst.bfd.com by agora.rdrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #17) id m0vXBlh-0008v2C; Mon, 9 Dec 96 11:53 PST Received: from harlie (bastion.bfd.com [204.160.242.2]) by horst.bfd.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA02774; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:38:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:38:30 -0800 (PST) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" X-Sender: ejs@harlie To: Stefan Molnar cc: Willem Jan Withagen , isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 10Mb/100Mb switches In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 9 Dec 1996, Stefan Molnar wrote: > > > We recently priced out a 10Mb switched hub for a network of about 22 > > computers, and the only hub even close to cost effective was the 3Com > > SuperStack II 1000, with 24 10Mb ports and one 100Mb port, all switched. > > There was only one other manufacturer that came close, because everyone > > else had low density switches, so we were going to have to string together > > 4-6 hubs to get enough ports. Sorry, meant that we'd have to string them together if we had gone with a different switched hub. > We overloaded ours with 9 PM2e It could not handel the RIP. How are > you going to string them together? The high end synoptics/Bay network > ones that we have use a 2GigaBit SCSI backplane. It is full dulplex > 100MB so it runs very sweet. It has 24 ports, so we don't need to string them together. We will be adding a 100Mb unswitched hub for new units (would have just upgraded the machines to 100Mb, but not practical due to ancient OS), but this is the only switched port we need. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 9 12:22:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA28226 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 12:22:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from eternal.dusk.net (root@eternal.dusk.net [207.219.16.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA28219 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 12:21:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from vlad@localhost) by eternal.dusk.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA02279 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 16:20:46 -0400 (AST) From: Christian Hochhold Message-Id: <199612092020.QAA02279@eternal.dusk.net> Subject: sendmail vs. qmail To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 16:20:45 -0400 (AST) X-URL: http://www.dusk.net & http://www.vampires.net X-Moto: Life for today and let the future take care of itself X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello again =) Is anyone here running qmail rather than sendmail? I have heard that qmail is more secure, and less of a pain that sendmail, once installed and running. Any comments as to which one is better and why? Thanks =) Christian From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 9 13:25:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA01591 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:25:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from surf.iaehv.nl (root@surf.IAEhv.nl [194.151.66.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id NAA01586 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:25:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wjw@localhost) by surf.iaehv.nl (8.8.2/8.8.2) id WAA12912; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 22:19:55 +0100 (MET) From: Willem Jan Withagen Message-Id: <199612092119.WAA12912@surf.iaehv.nl> Subject: Re: 10Mb/100Mb switches To: stefan@exis.net (Stefan Molnar) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 22:19:54 +0100 (MET) Cc: ejs@bfd.com, isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from Stefan Molnar at "Dec 9, 96 01:20:39 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You ( Stefan Molnar ) write: => We overloaded ours with 9 PM2e It could not handel the RIP. How are => you going to string them together? The high end synoptics/Bay network => ones that we have use a 2GigaBit SCSI backplane. It is full dulplex => 100MB so it runs very sweet. Well you've struck the mail on the head. Our segment currently has 7 PM's and is going to get this new great PM3 box with 60*64Kb ISDN on it. And I forsee a serious load, but the problem with switching is the outlet. Switching is effective when there is a lot of communication between many different partners on the switch. PM's usually tend to talk to the router to get the traffic out. So this will need to be a 100Mb interface. Question is how dit you find out that the RIP's were killing you? Guess you are doing static IP per account, where we are using static IP's per port. We're using FreeBSD as router, and the interrupt-load does not suggest that it is a very stressed segment. --WjW -- Internet Access Eindhoven BV., voice: +31-40-2438330, data: +31-40-2439436 P.O. 928, 5600 AX Eindhoven, The Netherlands Full Internet connectivity for only fl 12.95 a month. Call now, and login as 'new'. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 9 13:42:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA02439 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:42:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from tarpon.exis.net (stefan@tarpon.exis.net [205.252.72.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id NAA02423 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:42:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from stefan@localhost) by tarpon.exis.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) id RAA25973; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:01:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:01:19 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Molnar To: Willem Jan Withagen cc: ejs@bfd.com, isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 10Mb/100Mb switches In-Reply-To: <199612092119.WAA12912@surf.iaehv.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Switching is effective when there is a lot of communication between many > different partners on the switch. PM's usually tend to talk to the router to > get the traffic out. So this will need to be a 100Mb interface. All the PMs are of course 10MB We are starting to test our PM3. But the good old PM2e with 30 USR couriers work nice. I do not think that livingston has a 100MB port for the PM3. If so I know that we will by a few apon relise. > Question is how dit you find out that the RIP's were killing you? > Guess you are doing static IP per account, where we are using static IP's > per port. We're using FreeBSD as router, and the interrupt-load does not > suggest that it is a very stressed segment. What we did was look at the TX and RX of some machines. It was insequence to the normal broadcast of RIP. And by each macnine broadcasting it started to hurt. Nope. the accounts are dynamic. The router is a Cisco 7010 with 100MB port. Stefan -------------------------------------------- Stefan Molnar Team Exis.Net stefan@exis.net Member EFF Slightly Silly Team OS/2 east-coast-ambassador@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU "She turned me into a Newt! A Newt? I got better." -Monty Python -------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 9 20:04:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA05175 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 20:04:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail001.mediacity.com (mail001.mediacity.com [206.24.105.68]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA05169 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 20:04:26 -0800 (PST) From: brian@mediacity.com Received: (qmail-queue invoked from smtpd); 10 Dec 1996 04:04:23 -0000 Received: from home001.mediacity.com (HELO mediacity.com) (206.24.105.66) by mail001.mediacity.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 1996 04:04:23 -0000 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 100); 10 Dec 1996 04:04:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19961210040422.8595.qmail@mediacity.com> Subject: Re: sendmail vs. qmail To: vlad@dusk.net (Christian Hochhold) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 20:04:22 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199612092020.QAA02279@eternal.dusk.net> from Christian Hochhold at "Dec 9, 96 04:20:45 pm" Reply-To: brian@mediacity.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Christian Hochhold wrote: > Is anyone here running qmail rather than sendmail? > I have heard that qmail is more secure, and less > of a pain that sendmail, once installed and running. > > Any comments as to which one is better and > why? I run qmail on 10 systems without any troubles. Everything you have heard it true. -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 10 13:12:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA01207 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 13:12:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.trifecta.com (www.trifecta.com [206.245.150.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id NAA01195 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 13:12:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dev@localhost) by www.trifecta.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id QAA11095; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 16:11:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 16:11:15 -0500 (EST) From: Dev Chanchani To: Christian Hochhold cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Backup.. In-Reply-To: <199612090813.EAA00902@eternal.dusk.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk a 4mm DAT drive (4GB?) and tar will work fine. Just make sure you religously backup everyday. On Mon, 9 Dec 1996, Christian Hochhold wrote: > Hello =) > > I am looking for recommendations as to what > to use for a backup. > I am leaning towars a jaz drive due to its > storage capacity, however am not absolutely > certain. > (I'm looking for a good, fairly fast type of > backup that is also priced decently). > > Could someone enlighten me as to what the pro's > / con's ( other than the obvious ones ) are, > and also perhaps make a recommendation. > > Thanks in advance, > > Christian > > -- > Christian Hochhold | Dusk.net Internet Services > From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 10 21:31:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA15669 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 21:31:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.egate.net (odin.egate.net [207.34.206.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA15657 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 21:31:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from paul-ml@localhost) by odin.egate.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA08008; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:27:31 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:27:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Paul Andersen (ML)" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone have any decent scripts for a good system backup using tar? I'd use dump but I'm not happy with some of the bugs they list. I'm just tarring the system up right now daily and rotating through several tapes but I think switching to a Father-Grandfather style would be nice. Cheers, Paul ----------- Paul Andersen paul@egate.net System Administrator T: +1 (416) 447-8505x23 E-Gate Communications Inc. F: +1 (416) 447-6447 Toronto, Ontario P: +1 (416) 382-9316 On Tue, 10 Dec 1996, Dev Chanchani wrote: > a 4mm DAT drive (4GB?) and tar will work fine. Just make sure you > religously backup everyday. > > > On Mon, 9 Dec 1996, Christian Hochhold wrote: > > > Hello =) > > > > I am looking for recommendations as to what > > to use for a backup. > > I am leaning towars a jaz drive due to its > > storage capacity, however am not absolutely > > certain. > > (I'm looking for a good, fairly fast type of > > backup that is also priced decently). > > > > Could someone enlighten me as to what the pro's > > / con's ( other than the obvious ones ) are, > > and also perhaps make a recommendation. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Christian > > > > -- > > Christian Hochhold | Dusk.net Internet Services > > > From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 10 22:23:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA20348 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 22:23:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from foo.primenet.com (ip196.sjc.primenet.com [206.165.96.196]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id WAA20335 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 22:23:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bkogawa@localhost) by foo.primenet.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id WAA28001; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 22:28:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 22:28:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199612110628.WAA28001@foo.primenet.com> To: vlad@dusk.net Subject: Re: Backup.. Newsgroups: localhost.freebsd.isp References: <199612090813.EAA00902@eternal.dusk.net> From: "Bryan K. Ogawa" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In localhost.freebsd.isp you write: >Hello =) >I am looking for recommendations as to what >to use for a backup. >I am leaning towars a jaz drive due to its >storage capacity, however am not absolutely >certain. >(I'm looking for a good, fairly fast type of > backup that is also priced decently). >Could someone enlighten me as to what the pro's >/ con's ( other than the obvious ones ) are, >and also perhaps make a recommendation. Here's my thinking on this subject. Please feel free to chime in... 1. There are a few basic factors you could be looking for in removable backup solutions: a. Drive Cost (how much will it cost initially?) b. Media Cost (how much will each backup c. Size (how big a backup can I make?) d. Reliability (will it keep?) e. Other 2. In most cases, performance (speed of backups) is less important. If I can find something big enough and smart enough to use only one backup medium per day, I can do my backups at night, from cron. Speed only matters if someone has to watch the backups being done, or is waiting to use them, or if a machine must be offline while the backup is being done. Therefore, it's more of a factor if I'm using this to transport files from one place to another or if my drives are much larger than the devices. 3. You can use a second fixed disk to mirror your first one. This doesn't let you do off-site storage of your data, though. I'd disqualify this unless you have some good reason. 4. I'd also disqualify a bunch of small (40-80-120mb) QIC solutions, because they're small, and because they're not well supported under FreeBSD from all I understand. In fact, I'd probably say "SCSI only" and be done with it. As far as size, I'd say a hundred megabytes, at least, preferably much more. 5. The things that I can think of that fit into these categories: Note -- all prices in US dollars. Legend: + clearly positive point = may be positive or negative - negative point ? something to think about or which I don't know the answer to a. DAT drive + Extremely cheap media -- it costs about $4 - $5 per gigabyte + good support from FreeBSD + Very widely used format -- interoperability with other tape drives + Good storage size -- between 2 and 4 gigabytes uncompressed = Drive moderately priced -- $600 (potentially much less) - some DAT drives are flaky -- incompatible writes and read errors - slow, linear access medium ? reliability of medium is unknown (I think it's good, but not great) ? drives variable in speed b. Exabyte 8-mm drive + widely used format -- decent interopoerability + good support from FreeBSD + medium and hardware supposedly more reliable than DAT + extremely cheap media -- $3 - $8 per gigabyte + good storage size -- between 2 and 5 gigabytes uncompressed = still magnetic medium - drive more expensive than DAT -- $1400 for drive - slow, linear access medium c. Travan TR-4 drive / QIC wide + cheap drives -- about $400 + very rugged medium / hardware -- supposedly very reliable + good storage size -- 2 to 4 gigabytes uncompressed = moderately priced medium -- $10 - $20 per gigabyte (most expensive tape) ? presumably FreeBSD support good? - slow, linear access medium d. Jaz drive + Extremely fast medium random access medium -- speed comprable to fixed disks + cheap drive -- about $400 - $500 (including one cartridge) + good storage size -- 1 gigabyte uncompressed + Somewhat common drive makes transferring files easy - Very expensive medium -- $99 per gigabyte ? FreeBSD supports this as a disk drive, not a tape drive ? This medium is may be more fragile than tape ? e. Zip drive (SCSI, not parallel) + Extremely cheap drive -- about $100 + Very common drive makes transferring files easy = slow, random access medium -- speed much slower than fixed disk, but random access and much faster than tape - Very expensive medium -- $100-$200 per gigabyte - very small data size -- .1 gigabytes uncompressed ? FreeBSD supports this as a disk drive, not a tape drive ? This medium is may be more fragile than tape ? f. CD-R(ecordable) writer + Medium almost universally readable -- produces CD-ROMs + possibly better durability -- non-magnetic medium = Moderately priced drive -- $400 - $600 = Moderately priced medium -- $25 per gigabyte = Moderately sized medium size -- .6 - .7 gigabytes uncompressed - Medium can ONLY be written once, increasing medium costs - proper writing can be very tricky and is (relatively) very hardware-intensive g. PD drive (rewritable optical cartridges) + Medium is very reliable -- non-magnetic + rewritable medium ? moderately expensive priced drive? (I think they're about $800-$1000?) + moderate to good sized medium -- .6 to 1.3 gigabytes uncompressed - moderately expensive medium -- $80 per gigabyte ? unknown FreeBSD support - fairly esoteric medium I ended up choosing a DAT drive, because of all the positives, and because I was able to minimize a number of the negatives (I got mine for under $400 with a 6 year warranty, reducing the price and reliability questions, and I don't care about speed). Personally, I think that the Jaz drive doesn't make a good backup solution because of the high media prices (I picked up 3 DAT tapes so that I can do Grandfather/Father/Son backups, which is easy if the tapes cost $9 apiece). You're paying for a lot of performance (like a hard drive), which is IMO a waste if you're not using it 99% of the time. However, as a second fixed disk for extra files, it may be a great solution (keep it mounted with extra OSes or extra FreeBSD partitions). That's what I think. Some questions while I was making this: 1. Are PD or other Optical drives supported under FreeBSD? 2. How reliable is DAT, PRESUMING that you get a proper write the first time, esp. compared to 8mm? 3. Travan medium is supposed to have good reliability, right? 4. How reliable are CD-R? I've heard that they're much easier to scratch. I hope that helps. bryan >Thanks in advance, >Christian >-- >Christian Hochhold | Dusk.net Internet Services -- bryan k ogawa http://www.primenet.com/~bkogawa/ From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 10 23:17:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA23415 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 23:17:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from scanner.worldgate.com (scanner.worldgate.com [198.161.84.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id XAA23405 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 23:17:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from znep.com (uucp@localhost) by scanner.worldgate.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with UUCP id AAA21198; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:17:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (marcs@localhost) by alive.ampr.ab.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA26378; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:16:11 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:16:10 -0700 (MST) From: Marc Slemko X-Sender: marcs@alive.ampr.ab.ca To: "Paul Andersen (ML)" cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Paul Andersen (ML) wrote: > Does anyone have any decent scripts for a good system backup using > tar? I'd use dump but I'm not happy with some of the bugs they list. I'm "they"? IMHO, dump is many times better than tar for taking a good copy of a filesystem that not only has the data but that also puts the filesystem in the same state when you restore from tape. dump works at a lower level than tar, so it knows more about the filesystem so it does a better job of replicating it. From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 11 04:55:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id EAA08500 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 04:55:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from absinthe.i3inc.com (absinthe.stonos.washington.dc.us [206.27.237.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id EAA08493 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 04:55:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by absinthe.i3inc.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id HAA06455; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 07:53:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199612111253.HAA06455@absinthe.i3inc.com> X-Authentication-Warning: absinthe.i3inc.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: bkogawa@primenet.com Cc: vlad@dusk.net, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup.. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 10 Dec 1996 22:28:45 -0800 (PST)" References: <199612110628.WAA28001@foo.primenet.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.03 on Emacs 19.31.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 07:53:54 -0500 From: Chris Shenton Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nice analysis. Where'd you get the DAT for < $400? Was this a one-off, or continuing availability? Which model was it? The TR-3 or TR-4 solution seems like a good bang/buck ratio, but I'm concerned about media stability. Any thoughts, anyone? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 11 06:46:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id GAA13651 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 06:46:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from europa.arisia.net (europa.arisia.net [207.100.94.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id GAA13645 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 06:46:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mars ([207.100.94.12]) by europa.arisia.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA12383 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 09:49:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961211144847.006c1b58@207.100.94.5> X-Sender: msv@207.100.94.5 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 09:48:47 -0500 To: isp@freebsd.org From: "Mark S. Velasquez" Subject: **News Server keeps rebooting** Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My news server running FreeBSD 2.1.5R and INN 1.4unnoff4 (with /var/sppol/news mounted on a ccd logical volume) has been running fine for months(except expire problems). All of sudden, Its crashed(today was the third time), with message : "referenced scb not valid during scsi init" At least this was the last message I saw before it rebooted. Is this a FreeBSD problem cropping up ? A failure in my Adaotec 2940UW card ? A combination ? Hardware is a Petium Pro Asus motherboard, Adaptec 2940UW HBA, 128MB of Parity Ram Quantum 4.3GB(7200RPM) disk drives... I remember Sun Solaris was having some problems with their Adaptec drivers under heavy load a while back. Any help is appreciated. Thanks Mark S. Velasquez From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 11 07:30:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA16291 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 07:30:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (deischen@iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id HAA16272 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 07:30:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA26587; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 09:32:34 -0600 Message-Id: <9612111532.AA26587@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 09:32:34 -0600 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org, msv@arisia.net Subject: Re: **News Server keeps rebooting** Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > My news server running FreeBSD 2.1.5R and INN 1.4unnoff4 (with > /var/sppol/news mounted on a ccd logical volume) has been running fine for > months(except expire problems). All of sudden, Its crashed(today was the > third time), with message : > > "referenced scb not valid during scsi init" > > At least this was the last message I saw before it rebooted. > > Is this a FreeBSD problem cropping up ? A failure in my Adaotec 2940UW > card ? A combination ? You want to check your log for any "ahc" error messages to get a better idea of what happened prior to the crash. Is AHC_SCBPAGING_ENABLE enabled in your config? There was a bug with SCB paging in 2.1.5-RELEASE. There have been some changes to the aic7xxx driver since 2.1.5R, so you might want to upgrade to -stable (if you can afford the down time). Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 11 09:08:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA22517 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 09:08:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.fasts.com (root@server.fasts.com [199.125.215.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA22493 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 09:07:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.fasts.com ([199.125.215.66]) by fasts.com with SMTP id <66-176>; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:07:45 +0000 Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:07:33 +0000 () From: Victor Rotanov To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: tacacses... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello. I need a help with cisco and tacacs. I have cisco 2509 and freebsd 2.2 server. Cisco is configured like that: 1) when user calls, it is _not_ asked for username or password 2) autocommad ppp is done 3) ppp is configured to do PAP authentication so, when user calls, i cannot see his username. Is there any tacacs/xtacacs/tacacs+ server for freebsd to authenticate pap users and make them visible in any way? Maybe its not exactly freebsd question, but i know somebody will answer me something other than rtfm ;) Thanks, bye. vitjok From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 11 15:10:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA16995 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 15:10:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from orka.linkeasy.net (orka.linkeasy.net [206.117.216.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA16987 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 15:10:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from shit.linkeasy.net ([206.117.216.228]) by orka.linkeasy.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA03973 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 15:07:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 15:07:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199612112307.PAA03973@orka.linkeasy.net> X-Sender: admin@mail.linkeasy.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: isp@FreeBSD.org From: Mike Parks Subject: port limiter Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know of a way to limit the amount of bandwidth allowed through an ethernet port . I am co-hosting servers and I would like to limit the amount of bandwidth each server gets like 128k or 256k for instance. Is there a software solution to this. Mike k From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 11 16:28:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA23300 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:28:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.vianet.com.mx ([200.23.228.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA23291 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:28:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from dns0.vianet.com.mx (auribe.vianet.com.mx [200.23.228.22]) by mail.vianet.com.mx (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA26690 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:22:14 GMT Message-Id: <199612111822.SAA26690@mail.vianet.com.mx> From: "Maestros Asociados" To: Subject: domain name Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:27:54 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Everything was workin ok ...with my domain names, but noy some of them have probles with the email. when i try to send an email to one of my domain names it loops me back DOES ANYONE KNOWS WHAT SHOULD I CHECK IT OUT? From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 11 16:45:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA24278 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:45:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from srv1.thuntek.net (root@srv1.thuntek.net [206.206.98.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA24267 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:45:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from scott-home (ds1-d1.thuntek.net [206.206.98.132]) by srv1.thuntek.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA02431; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:45:41 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961212004243.00ceb654@thuntek.net> X-Sender: thor@thuntek.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:42:43 -0700 To: Mike Parks , isp@freebsd.org From: Scott Halbert Subject: Re: port limiter Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 03:07 PM 12/11/96 -0800, Mike Parks wrote: >Does anyone know of a way to limit the amount of bandwidth allowed through >an ethernet port . > >I am co-hosting servers and I would like to limit the amount of bandwidth >each server gets like 128k or 256k for instance. Is there a software >solution to this. > >Mike > > >k ET's limiter seems to work pretty well. I'm using it for a web site. I've also thought of using to limit individual NICs within an ethernet LAN. http://www.etinc.com ---Scott Halbert Thunder Network Technologies, Inc. --- From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 11 17:20:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA27062 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:20:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns2.harborcom.net (bradley@ns2.harborcom.net [206.158.4.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA27057 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:20:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (bradley@localhost) by ns2.harborcom.net (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id UAA26176 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:20:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:20:52 -0500 (EST) From: Bradley Dunn X-Sender: bradley@ns2.harborcom.net To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: HSRP functionality? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok, if I were good at drawing network diagrams in ASCII, I would draw a diagram. But I'm not, so I won't. :-) The network has two FreeBSD routers on it and both can get to the outside world. Is there any way I can get the same functionality of cisco's hot standby routing protocol without running passive ospf on the hosts? BTW, you can read about HSRP at http://www.cisco.com/univercd/data/doc/cintrnet/ics/icshsrp.htm -BD From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 11 18:31:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA01284 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:31:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from red.jnx.com (red.jnx.com [208.197.169.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA01279 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:31:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from chimp.jnx.com (chimp.jnx.com [208.197.169.246]) by red.jnx.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id SAA09218; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:31:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tli@localhost) by chimp.jnx.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) id SAA05015; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:30:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:30:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199612120230.SAA05015@chimp.jnx.com> From: Tony Li To: bradley@dunn.org (Bradley Dunn) cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-reply-to: bradley@dunn.org's message of 12 Dec 96 01:20:52 GMT Subject: Re: HSRP functionality? References: Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok, if I were good at drawing network diagrams in ASCII, I would draw a diagram. But I'm not, so I won't. :-) The network has two FreeBSD routers on it and both can get to the outside world. Is there any way I can get the same functionality of cisco's hot standby routing protocol without running passive ospf on the hosts? BTW, you can read about HSRP at http://www.cisco.com/univercd/data/doc/cintrnet/ics/icshsrp.htm Brad, Yes, certainly. HSRP was invented to deal with the problem of Really Stupid Hosts that didn't support router discovery. Since you have the good taste to run FreeBSD ;-), you could simply use router discovery instead. Tony From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 12 00:19:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA28638 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 00:19:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from foo.primenet.com (ip211.sjc.primenet.com [206.165.96.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id AAA28633 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 00:19:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (bkogawa@localhost) by foo.primenet.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA13379; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 00:25:56 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: foo.primenet.com: bkogawa owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 00:25:55 -0800 (PST) From: "Bryan K. Ogawa" To: Chris Shenton cc: vlad@dusk.net, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup.. In-Reply-To: <199612111253.HAA06455@absinthe.i3inc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Chris Shenton wrote: > Nice analysis. Where'd you get the DAT for < $400? Was this a one-off, > or continuing availability? Which model was it? Thanks. I got a refurbished WangDAT 1300 XL -- they are 2 GB max (no 120M tape), no compression, and slow -- from Disk Drive depot -- http://www.corpsys.com/ I think they are "while supplies last". They have some other deals, though -- refurbished exabytes and archive loaders (hold 4 tapes), some other stuff like that, including exceedingly cheap Travan drives (they're less than US$200). You might want to give them a call as well -- 408-743-8720. I live quite close to them, so buying the drive was less of a problem -- I could just drive down to take care of warranty issues (none of which have happened yet). > > The TR-3 or TR-4 solution seems like a good bang/buck ratio, but I'm > concerned about media stability. Any thoughts, anyone? I think someone said that they thought they were quite reliable, and from what I've seen of the media (not much, just pictures and cartridges in translucent plastic boxes), they look more reliable than DAT. Of course, I have no direct experience. > > Thanks. > > bryan k ogawa http://www.primenet.com/~bkogawa/ From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 12 04:06:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id EAA08503 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 04:06:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from shiva.seranis.com.au (root@shiva.seranis.com.au [203.14.110.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id EAA08494 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 04:06:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by shiva.seranis.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA25527; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 23:03:31 +1100 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 23:03:31 +1100 (EST) From: root To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: What is a good release for an ISP In-Reply-To: <9612111532.AA26587@iworks.InterWorks.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, I am new to this mailing list and to freeBSD - which I am hoping will replace slackware Linux currently running our server. Having installed 2.1.5 (Ausgust 1996) off the CDROM, I am wondering if someone can share their experience on this matter. The FTP sites have 2.1.6 - is that better (in terms of bug fixes etc.) ? The FreeBSD-stable directory on these sites does'nt appear to have a full release under it, which is confusing. The hardware I am using is : Tyan 1563D (one 686/133 CPU), 2940UW, Quantum 4.3 disk etc. Any hints will be greatly appreciated. Rama Duggal From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 12 05:47:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id FAA12783 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 05:47:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (root@buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id FAA12776 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 05:46:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA13239; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 13:48:47 GMT Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa14972; 12 Dec 96 8:56 EST Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 08:56:25 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Hovey To: Maestros Asociados cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: domain name In-Reply-To: <199612111822.SAA26690@mail.vianet.com.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Check your MX records, that you do not have 2 of the same weight. On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Maestros Asociados wrote: > Everything was workin ok ...with my domain names, but > noy some of them have probles with the email. > when i try to send an email to one of my domain names > it loops me back > DOES ANYONE KNOWS WHAT SHOULD I CHECK IT OUT? > > From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 12 09:31:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA24006 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 09:31:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from DNS.Lamb.net (root@DNS.Lamb.net [207.90.181.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA24001 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 09:31:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from PacBell.TelcoSucks.org (PacBell.TelcoSucks.org [207.90.181.5]) by DNS.Lamb.net (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id JAA04651; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 09:31:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961212093139.006ea208@Gatekeeper-3.Lamb.net> X-Sender: ulf@Gatekeeper-3.Lamb.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (32) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 09:31:40 -0800 To: root , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Ulf Zimmermann Subject: Re: What is a good release for an ISP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 11:03 PM 12/12/96 +1100, root wrote: >Hi there, > >I am new to this mailing list and to freeBSD - which I am hoping will >replace slackware Linux currently running our server. Good! :) > >Having installed 2.1.5 (Ausgust 1996) off the CDROM, I am wondering if >someone can share their experience on this matter. The FTP sites have >2.1.6 - is that better (in terms of bug fixes etc.) ? I am running on several machines 2.1.5R with some modifications (sendmail, bind, etc.) The systems are pretty stable. I updated recently one machine to 2.1.6R, the others will follow next year. If you do brand new installations I would recommend to use the 2.1.6R version. > >The FreeBSD-stable directory on these sites does'nt appear to have a full >release under it, which is confusing. > >The hardware I am using is : Tyan 1563D (one 686/133 CPU), 2940UW, >Quantum 4.3 disk etc. > >Any hints will be greatly appreciated. > >Rama Duggal > Ulf. ----------------------------------------------------------- Alameda Networks, Inc. | Ulf Zimmermann (ulf@Alameda.net) 1525 Pacific Avenue | Phone: (510)769-2936 Alameda, CA 94501 | Fax : (510)521-5073 From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 12 15:07:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA15975 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:07:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.vianet.com.mx ([200.23.228.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA15951 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:07:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from dns0.vianet.com.mx (auribe.vianet.com.mx [200.23.228.22]) by mail.vianet.com.mx (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA11206 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:02:54 GMT Message-Id: <199612121702.RAA11206@mail.vianet.com.mx> From: "Maestros Asociados" To: Subject: adduser Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:08:34 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Folks! When I add an user with the adduser command, the mail directory of the new user does not belong to her or him it belongs for example to 1656 or to root IS THERE ANY WAY I CAN CHANGE THIS CONFIGURATION? thanks by the way. From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Dec 13 09:37:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA01347 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 09:37:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.238.120.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA01318 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 09:37:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.238.120.3]) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA18086 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 14:38:07 -0200 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 14:38:07 -0200 (EDT) From: Paulo Fragoso To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: pppd in FreeBSD 2.1.5 (demuxprotrej) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm having a few problems with pppd in FreeBSD 2.1.5. When pppd starts no route from ip-up is added. I found in the messages log this: Dec 13 14:36:01 xingu pppd[2235]: demuxprotrej: Unrecognized Protocol-Reject for ^^^^^^^^^^^^ protocol 20581! What's happenning? Can anyone help me? Paulo. ########## my ip-up: if [ $5 = "200.238.120.123" ]; then /sbin/route delete 200.238.120.160; /sbin/route delete 200.238.120.161; /sbin/route delete 200.238.120.162; /sbin/route add 200.238.120.160 200.238.120.123; /sbin/route add 200.238.120.161 200.238.120.123; /sbin/route add 200.238.120.162 200.238.120.123; /usr/sbin/arp -s 200.238.120.160 08:00:00:53:24:27 pub; /usr/sbin/arp -s 200.238.120.161 08:00:00:53:24:27 pub; /usr/sbin/arp -s 200.238.120.162 08:00:00:53:24:27 pub; fi From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Dec 13 17:22:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA29223 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:22:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA29218 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:22:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA22381; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 18:21:53 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 18:21:53 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199612140121.SAA22381@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Paulo Fragoso Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppd in FreeBSD 2.1.5 (demuxprotrej) In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm having a few problems with pppd in FreeBSD 2.1.5. When pppd starts no > route from ip-up is added. I found in the messages log this: > > Dec 13 14:36:01 xingu pppd[2235]: demuxprotrej: Unrecognized Protocol-Reject for > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > protocol 20581! > > What's happenning? Can anyone help me? I'll bet your client is a Windows95/WNT box. You can ignore it. Nate From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 14 01:58:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id BAA19736 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 01:58:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.238.120.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id BAA19730 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 01:58:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from luiz@localhost) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.6.12/8.6.12) id GAA20966; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 06:59:02 -0200 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 06:59:02 -0200 (EDT) From: Luiz de Barros To: Nate Williams cc: Paulo Fragoso , isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppd in FreeBSD 2.1.5 (demuxprotrej) In-Reply-To: <199612140121.SAA22381@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Nate and ALL, Actually it is a FreeBSD2.1.0-RELEASE running pppd. Luiz On Fri, 13 Dec 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > > I'm having a few problems with pppd in FreeBSD 2.1.5. When pppd starts no > > route from ip-up is added. I found in the messages log this: > > > > Dec 13 14:36:01 xingu pppd[2235]: demuxprotrej: Unrecognized Protocol-Reject for > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > protocol 20581! > > > > What's happenning? Can anyone help me? > > I'll bet your client is a Windows95/WNT box. You can ignore it. > > > Nate > From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 14 09:02:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA16295 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 09:02:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunasci.informador.com.mx (sunasci.infored.com.mx [200.13.66.88]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA16286 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 09:01:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from felipe@localhost) by sunasci.informador.com.mx (8.8.3/8.8.3) id LAA22358; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 11:03:43 GMT Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 11:03:43 +0000 () From: Felipe Rivera Marquez To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Accounts are disappearing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi people. I have a very, very weird problem. I'm running freebsd 2.1.5-release and using the adduser perl program to create accounts. From some time now, some accounts just disappear, including home directory. There are other authorized people round here with root passwd (i know this is not good), and all of them said that they're not deleting the accounts. Could be a cracker?? or any other thing?? From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 14 13:13:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA13531 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 13:13:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from eternal.dusk.net (root@eternal.dusk.net [207.219.16.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id NAA13517 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 13:13:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from vlad@localhost) by eternal.dusk.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA06197; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 17:12:22 -0400 (AST) From: Christian Hochhold Message-Id: <199612142112.RAA06197@eternal.dusk.net> Subject: Re: Backup.. To: bkogawa@primenet.com (Bryan K. Ogawa) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 17:12:22 -0400 (AST) Cc: vlad@dusk.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199612110628.WAA28001@foo.primenet.com> from "Bryan K. Ogawa" at "Dec 10, 96 10:28:45 pm" X-URL: http://www.dusk.net & http://www.vampires.net X-Moto: Live for today and let the future take care of itself X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thank you very much to all that replied to my question, I've decided to go with a DAT drive =) Now *grin* who can suggest a retailer to get a good price from? (I'm in Canada) and even the 2G External DAT is (at the cheapest place) 900.00 Canadian. Could someone recommend a place, (Of course, location does not matter) and relay its telephone/fax number(s) to me. Thanks again =) Christian