From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 00:51:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA10155 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 00:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA10146 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 00:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srmail.sr.hp.com by hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA244976310; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 00:51:50 -0700 Received: from hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com by srmail.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA071736309; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 00:51:49 -0700 Received: from mina.sr.hp.com by hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA169846308; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 00:51:48 -0700 Message-Id: <199606230751.AA169846308@hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Good motherboard vendor? Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 00:51:48 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Can anyone recommend a good motherboard vendor? I'm looking for an ASUS P55T2P4 (512K cache) or an Ocean Rhino-9. It's time to upgrade my FreeBSD system, and I'm looking for a GOOD motherboard vendor -- one who won't give me problems if running FreeBSD causes an intermittent motherboard problem to rear its ugly head. Good service is more important to me than price, although a low price would be nice. Thanks, -- Darryl Okahata Internet: darrylo@sr.hp.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Hewlett-Packard, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 02:50:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA15697 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 02:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA15689 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 02:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uXloG-000QaxC; Sun, 23 Jun 96 11:50 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA07312; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:35:04 +0200 Message-Id: <199606230935.LAA07312@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: Compiling kernel for ATAPI CD-ROM error - fatal signal 11- what is it? To: ajohn@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (Anil John) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:35:04 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <01BB6072.5EB9E540@ppp97.bcpl.lib.md.us> from "Anil John" at Jun 22, 96 07:38:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anil John writes: > > Oops...Sorry. I had sent this message out previously with the wrong reply address. Apologies. > > ========================== > I am trying to recompile 2.1 RELEASE kernel to take advantage of an ATAPI IDE > CD-ROM. I copied my GENERIC configuration file to a new one called HAMMER. > > The only change made to the config file was to take out the # on: > > options ATAPI > device wcd0 > > and to delete > > cpu "I386_CPU" > cpu "I586_CPU" since I have a 486DX/66 You don't need to do this, of course, but it shouldn't harm. > 'wcd0c' and 'rwcd0c' are present in the /dev directory from my original > installation. Ran config on HAMMER. Changed to the HAMMER directory and ran > make. > > My compile stopped with the following error: > -------- > June 22 17:31:56 hammer /kernel: pid 453: cc1: uid 0: exited on signal 11 > cc: Interal compiler error: program as got fatal signal 11 > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. This is almost certainly a compiler bug. The compiler addressed non-existent memory, and the system killed it. It's just barely possible that there are other reasons, for example, memory errors or such, but most likely it didn't like the source, which would suggest that the source is corrupt. Typically, when building the kernel, you'll see things like gcc -c -O -W -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Winline -Wunused -g -nostdinc -I. -I../.. -I../../sys -I../../../include -DI486_CPU -DIPI_VJ -DHARDFONTS -DSCSIDEBUG -DIPACCT -DCOMPAT_43 -DCD9660 -DMSDOSFS -DNFS -DFFS -DINET -DKERNEL ../../libkern/strlen.c gcc -c -O -W -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Winline -Wunused -g -nostdinc -I. -I../.. -I../../sys -I../../../include -DI486_CPU -DIPI_VJ -DHARDFONTS -DSCSIDEBUG -DIPACCT -DCOMPAT_43 -DCD9660 -DMSDOSFS -DNFS -DFFS -DINET -DKERNEL ../../libkern/strncmp.c These are the compiler invocations for the files strlen.c and strncmp.c. Check which file causes the compiler to fail, then try again. If it fails in the same place, there's probably something wrong with the source (so check it). If it fails at random places, there's probably something wrong with your hardware. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 02:50:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA15758 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 02:50:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA15753 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 02:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uXloF-000QaqC; Sun, 23 Jun 96 11:50 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA07115; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 10:07:21 +0200 Message-Id: <199606230807.KAA07115@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: INSTALLATION To: kbranco@ma.ultranet.com (Kenny) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 10:07:21 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.com In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960622094601.006c16ec@ma.ultranet.com> from "Kenny" at Jun 22, 96 05:46:01 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Kenny writes: > > During the install of FreeBSD 2.1 on my machine I chose some > software to install along with it in the setup menus. Then after all the AA > - CP floppies we're installed FreeBSD asked me for floppies that I didn't > have. Are those floppies the packages that I can download too? How do you expect us to know if you don't say which ones they are? The best thing to do is to perform a minimal installation and then look around on the net to see what else you want. It should all be on the ftp site. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 02:51:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA15797 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 02:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA15782 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 02:51:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uXloF-000QarC; Sun, 23 Jun 96 11:50 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA07125; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 10:09:50 +0200 Message-Id: <199606230809.KAA07125@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: Is this appropriate? To: cpayne@fiber.net (Carl Payne) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 10:09:50 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19960623040539.2cdfe348@mail.fiber.net> from "Carl Payne" at Jun 22, 96 10:11:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Carl Payne writes: > > I have an installation problem. Is this list an appropriate venue? Sure, a lot of the traffic here is on installation problems. > If not, would someone kindly pass me a more proper outlet for my > anger? First, take a deep breath, relax and say to yourself, "These people are volunteers who are prepared to help me--maybe. If I ask them nicely, they will. If I vent my anger on them, they'll either ignore me or possibly flame me". Then describe your installation problems in detail, and you'll probably get an answer. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 04:54:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA20866 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 04:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA20861 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 04:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA18416; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 14:58:36 +0300 Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 14:58:35 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Obtaining FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199606230950.CAA15770@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: "George A. Gore" <"swetc@crier.camelot.net"@crier.camelot.net> > Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 17:09:03 -0700 > Subject: Obtaining FreeBSD > > How exactly do you obtain a copy of FreeBSD 2.1.0. I have visited the > WWW and FTP sites but cannot figure out which files i need to download > to get FreeBSD up and running. I just need to know what files to > download and then i can start using it. Oh yeah, i already downloaded > some file called rawrite.exe, have no clue what it does, but i think > that it is like a formatter for UNIX systems. rawrite.exe writes a floppy disk image from a file to a floppy disk byte-by-byte producing so the original floppy. Now depending what kind of connection you have, you may need to download (some?) additional files. For sure you will the file boot.flp - essentially the FreeBSD master install floppy to boot from it. Follow the instruction and *please*, read the README and INSTALL, etc. files before continuing. Sander > > Thanx Guys > From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 05:09:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA21323 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 05:09:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blanco.sadeya.cesca.es (blanco.sadeya.cesca.es [192.94.163.146]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA21317 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 05:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyan.infortecnica.es ([193.148.6.29]) by blanco.sadeya.cesca.es (8.6.11/8.7.0) with SMTP id OAA06806; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 14:09:27 +0200 Message-ID: <31CD4F9E.3C4C@sadeya.cesca.es> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 14:07:26 +0000 From: Carlos Amengual Organization: SADEYA X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: Interview w/ a boog , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache setup References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White wrote: > > On Sat, 22 Jun 1996, Interview w/ a boog wrote: > > > I put the path string for calling the httpd.conf file - > > (e.g. /usr/local/www/server/httpd -f > > /usr/local/www/server/conf/httpd.conf) > > but i get an error saying that the '-f' is an invalid parameter. this > > error comes during boot right after it launches the apache daemon. > > If you have a 2.2 SNAP, then there is an option in /etc/sysconfig to turn > on apache. Make sure httpd is in the normal path and set apache_httpd to > YES in sysconfig. > > If it doesn't like -f, then don't use it. But it is a good idea to specify the -f or -d options explicitly instead of relying on defaults for the config files (I prefer to use "-d"). It is strange that it rejects "-f". Instead of adding more lines to /etc/rc, he (it? :-) should modify the line already in /etc/rc that uses the sysconfig file setting to launch Apache. Carlos -- ========================================================== Carlos Amengual - Sociedad Astronómica de España y América Avenida Diagonal, 377, 2 - 08008 Barcelona - Spain amengual@sadeya.cesca.es - http://www.sadeya.cesca.es/ ========================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 09:38:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA07273 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 09:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbox.tia.net (mailbox.tia.net [205.244.60.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA07264 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 09:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jo295@localhost) by mailbox.tia.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) id MAA29243; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 12:53:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 12:53:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Joseph D. Orthoefer" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: sup servers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Are there currently any publicly accessable sup servers actually running? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 11:12:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA12080 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.IntNet.net (mercury.IntNet.net [198.252.32.180]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA12075 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:12:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from daffodil.InfoChan.COM by mailhost.IntNet.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA08795; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 14:17:05 -0400 Received: from daemon.com (ntsa14.infochan.com) by daffodil.InfoChan.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA21422; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 13:11:17 -0500 Message-Id: <31CE566F.146F@infochan.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 01:48:47 -0700 From: Denton Tyndale X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: File Transmission Problem X-Url: http://www.freeBSD.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk where should i email to get support on problems with freeBSD? From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 11:24:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA12605 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA12596 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:24:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00263; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:24:30 -0700 Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:24:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: FreeBSD cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: arp_rtrequest: bad gateway value message In-Reply-To: <199606230206.TAA12933@mailserver.newtrend.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 22 Jun 1996, FreeBSD wrote: > Hi, Can anybody tell me what does this means and where it comes from. > > /kernel: arp_rtrequest: bad gateway value My guess is a broken routing table, probably from using routed. If you don't need dynamic routing then turn off routed in /etc/sysconfig. It saves a great many headaches, especially with broken routers. > Recently, we have replaced a failed router and crashed > our system a few times. Since that time this message will > show when the server is rebooted. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 11:32:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA13163 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13154 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA02228; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 18:32:00 GMT Message-Id: <199606231832.SAA02228@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA177714739; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 12:32:19 -0600 Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 12:32:19 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: denton@InfoChan.COM Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31CE566F.146F@infochan.com> (message from Denton Tyndale on Mon, 24 Jun 1996 01:48:47 -0700) Subject: Re: File Transmission Problem Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Denton" == Denton Tyndale writes: Denton> where should i email to get support on problems with Denton> freeBSD? To the address you just used to ask your question: questions@freebsd.org -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 11:38:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA13639 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA13629 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00279; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:37:36 -0700 Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:37:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Ed Mullins cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD installation.. In-Reply-To: <199606222321.SAA20822@galaxy.galstar.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What CPU is your machine? 486? What speed? On Sat, 22 Jun 1996, Ed Mullins wrote: > > > My motherboard is an ISA board, by the way.. > > ---first one--- > (J16) Onboard Super I/O Enable Definitely not it (unless you want to swap out your onboard IDE for a regular one) > (J23) SEL2----CPU Clock Speed Select I wonder if these are set right. They control the bus speed. > Well, I just called Packard Bell technical support, the guy didn't know > much about unix/clones or anything, but he said my motherboard had no PCI > interfaces or anything related to PCI what-so-ever (for the first time, > this guy really knew what he was talking about, most PB techs. don't know > crap). He also gave me a debug routine to that will delete all partitions > on the drive - he said somtimes fdisk, and others, are unable to detect > some partitions due to virus' and such, even though I don't think that's > the problem in my case, I'll try.. > > He said there was also no VLB stuff, except for the video... Everything is > ISA, he said.. OK, will keep that in mind. > So.. what do you think, now? :) Still lost. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 11:42:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA13897 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA13889 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00289; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:42:03 -0700 Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:42:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Dave Andersen cc: angio@aros.net, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: NFS weirdness. In-Reply-To: <199606222130.PAA04899@terra.aros.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 22 Jun 1996, Dave Andersen wrote: > Look closely. On the original system, they're not directories. On the > FreeBSD system that mounts them, they *are* directories. I consider this > weird. :) > > > drwxrwxrwx 1 couch users 0 Jun 22 09:44 junk > > > drwxrwxrwx 1 couch users 0 Jun 22 09:45 keith2 ^ Hm, you're right. :-) I'll shut up and let the pros handle this one :-) > > > -rwxrwxrwx 1 couch users 0 Jun 22 09:44 junk* > > > -rwxrwxrwx 1 couch users 0 Jun 22 09:45 keith2* ^ Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 11:43:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA13965 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA13960 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:43:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00297; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:43:14 -0700 Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:43:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Sean Batson cc: James Raynard , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Offical Release of 2.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 22 Jun 1996, Sean Batson wrote: > Well the last time I checked it doesn't because I'm using the 2.1-Release. > and have been with out the use of my Atapi IDE CD-ROM for quite some time. What did you check? I've helped countless people get atapi working with 2.1-R. Did you use the ATAPI.FLP boot floppy? #1 most common error. If you're up, just look in LINT; the necessary options are there. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 11:46:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA14229 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.IntNet.net (mercury.IntNet.net [198.252.32.180]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA14224 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:46:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from daffodil.InfoChan.COM by mailhost.IntNet.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA09850; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 14:50:38 -0400 Received: from daemon.com (ntsa14.infochan.com) by daffodil.InfoChan.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA21752; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 13:44:45 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 13:44:42 -0500 Message-Id: <9606231844.AA21752@daffodil.InfoChan.COM> X-Sender: denton@infochan.com (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: denton@InfoChan.COM (Denton Tyndale) Subject: Re: File Transmission Problem X-Mailer: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>>>> "Denton" == Denton Tyndale writes: >> >> Denton> where should i email to get support on problems with >> Denton> freeBSD? >> >>To the address you just used to ask your question: >> >> questions@freebsd.org >> >>-- >>Sean Kelly >>NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov >>Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ >> >> >ok... >when i connect to my isp everything works perfectly (i.e. ping, telnet, ftp, etc.) >But the problem is that, in ftp, when i try to download a file it only downloads 2K and hangs my connection. >Any solutions to my problem? >(The connections to my ISP is a dial-up) > From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 11:46:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA14309 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA14304 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srmail.sr.hp.com by relay.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA054395609; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:46:49 -0700 Received: from hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com (mina.sr.hp.com) by srmail.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA100255608; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:46:48 -0700 Received: by hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA284495607; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:46:47 -0700 To: questions@freebsd.org Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Good motherboard vendor? References: From: Darryl Okahata Date: 23 Jun 1996 11:46:45 -0700 Message-Id: Lines: 16 X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.2.15/XEmacs 19.13 In-Reply-To: Darryl Okahata's message of 23 Jun 1996 00:49:37 -0700 Posted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted as well. I wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good motherboard vendor? I'm looking for an > ASUS P55T2P4 (512K cache) or an Ocean Rhino-9. I guess I didn't make myself clear enough. I'm looking for a motherboard dealer/distributor. I've decided on getting the ASUS or Ocean, and I'm now looking for suggestions on where to buy one. Thanks, -- Darryl Okahata Internet: darrylo@sr.hp.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Hewlett-Packard, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 11:52:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA14525 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:52:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA14519 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:52:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00317; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:52:38 -0700 Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 11:52:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Denton Tyndale cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: File Transmission Problem In-Reply-To: <31CE566F.146F@infochan.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, Denton Tyndale wrote: > where should i email to get support on problems with freeBSD? This list is a good place to start. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 12:17:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA15624 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 12:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (flaq@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA15616 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 12:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA03982; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 14:16:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 14:16:29 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: FreeBSD , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: arp_rtrequest: bad gateway value message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 23 Jun 1996, Doug White wrote: > On Sat, 22 Jun 1996, FreeBSD wrote: > > > Hi, Can anybody tell me what does this means and where it comes from. > > > > /kernel: arp_rtrequest: bad gateway value > > My guess is a broken routing table, probably from using routed. If you > don't need dynamic routing then turn off routed in /etc/sysconfig. It > saves a great many headaches, especially with broken routers. Can you define 'dynamic routing'? Not sure if I should be running routed now :) > > > Recently, we have replaced a failed router and crashed > > our system a few times. Since that time this message will > > show when the server is rebooted. > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 12:19:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA15703 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 12:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com (tombstone.sunrem.com [206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA15698 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 12:19:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA21200 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 13:19:22 -0600 Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 13:19:22 -0600 From: Brandon Gillespie Message-Id: <199606231919.NAA21200@tombstone.sunrem.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Updating the MBR after Win95 is installed... Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Earlier, I installed Win95, then I installed FreeBSD, and booting gave me the booteasy boot manager. However, I recently re-installed Win95, which clobbered the MBR and put back its own. How do I _just_ install the booteasy back into the MBR? -Brandon Gillespie From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 15:19:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA27804 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 15:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cais.cais.com (cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA27799 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 15:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from babel (babel.cais.com [204.157.31.49]) by cais.cais.com (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA09047; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 18:19:20 -0400 Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 18:17:36 +0000 () From: "Robert F. Abel" To: questions@FreeBSD.org cc: babel@cais.com Subject: ft or other backup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-953104489-835553856=:180" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-953104489-835553856=:180 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII .... --0-953104489-835553856=:180 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="fbsd.jun" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: DQpIYXZlIGFsbW9zdCB0aGUgZW50aXJlIGZyZWVCU0QgY29sbGVjdGlvbiBp bnN0YWxsZWQgYW5kIHdvcmtpbmcuICANCg0KTmVlZCBhIHdheSB0byBiYWNr IGl0IHVwIGluIGNhc2Ugb2YgYSBDUkFTSC4NCg0KVXNlZCB5b3VyIGZ0IGRy aXZlciBmb3IgUUlDODAgdGFwZSBkcml2ZXMuICBTZWVtcyB0byB3b3JrIG9r IGJhc2ljYWxseS4NCg0KQ2FuIG5vdCBnZXQgaXQgdG8gYmFjayB1cC9yZXN0 b3JlIHJlY2Vzc2l2ZWx5LCB3aWxsIG5vdCBhcmNoaXZlIHRvIHRoZSANCnN1 YiBkaXJlY3RvcnkgbGV2ZWwuICBJcyB0aGUgZnQgZnVuY3Rpb24gc3VwcG9z ZWQgdG8gYmFja3VwL3Jlc3RvcmUgDQpzdWItZGlyZWN0b3JpZXMgYWxzbyA/ DQoNCklmIHNvLCAgdGhlIGNvbW1hbmQgdG8gZG8gdGhpcyBpcyBub3QgaW4g dGhlIHJ0IG9yIHRhciBtYW4gcGFnZXMuICBJZiBydA0Kd2lsbCBub3QgYmFj ayB1cCByZWN1cnNpdmVseSB3aGF0IG90aGVyIFFJQzgwIHByb2dyYW0gdG8g eW91IGhhdmUgYSBwb3J0IA0KZm9yID8NCg0KSSBvd24gYSBjb3B5IG9mIHRo ZSBKdW1ibyAyNTAgUUlDODAgZHJpdmVyIHNvZnR3YXJlIGJ1dCBpcyBpbiBT Q08gVU5JWA0KY29kZS4gIEFueSB3YXkgdG8gaW5zdGFsbCBhbmQgdXNlIHRo aXMgZm9yIGZyZWVCU0QgT1M/DQoNCg0KDQoNCg== --0-953104489-835553856=:180-- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 15:40:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA28625 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 15:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.airmail.net (server-f.iadfw.net [206.66.12.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA28618 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 15:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.73) id ; Sun, 23 Jun 96 17:40:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: From: danb@airmail.net (Dan Baritchi) Subject: SNAP: ld.so: can't find libX11.so.6.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 17:40:15 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I just installed the 2.2-960612-SNAP and everything went fine except for one detail. When I try to start xdm I get the following error message: ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libX11.so.6.0" I looked everywhere on the system and I can't find it. The ldconfig path in /etc/rc includes /usr/X11R6/lib just like it should. I also tried searching for this file on the www.cdrom.com site, but with no luck. The mailing list archives had some references to the same file, but I still didn't get anywhere. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Dan Baritchi dan@airmail.net From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 16:01:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA00354 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 16:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from newton.ccs.tuns.ca (daemon@newton.ccs.tuns.ca [134.190.1.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA00348 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 16:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606232301.QAA00348@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: from cmvdr1.na.tuns.ca by newton.ccs.tuns.ca with SMTP (1.37.109.6/15.6) id AA01530; Sun, 23 Jun 96 20:01:09 -0300 Date: Sun, 23 Jun 96 20:01:09 -0300 X-Sender: hey@newton.ccs.tuns.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: hey@tuns.ca (Yingjun (Ian) He) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am running FreeBSD2.1 with X-window. How can I get the graphics login window instead of the text mode login prompt when I boot up the system or when I logout? Ian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ian Y.J. He ---> Home Page: http://www.tuns.ca/~hey ************* ---> Email: hey@tuns.ca ---> Phone: (902)420-7975 ---> Fax : (902)423-0363 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Centre for Marine Vessel Design and Research --- Department of Mechanical Engineering - Technical University of Nova Scotia - Halifax, Nova Scotia --- Canada B3J 2X4 ================================================================ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 17:02:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA04734 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 17:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA04726 for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 17:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 17:02:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Lehey Message-Id: <199606240002.RAA04726@freefall.freebsd.org> To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update 7 May 1996. This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"**). In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. I'm taking the viewpoint of the newcomer here: we have other ways of handling arrogant hackers :-) When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, please remember: 1. Nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message, so please specify a subject. "FreeBSD problem" or "Can't get this to work" aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, most people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. Please try to format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. 4. Please don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 5. Please specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: - If you get error messages, don't say "I get error messages", say (for example) "I get the error message 'No route to host'". - If your system panics, don't say "My system panicked", say (for example) "my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'". - If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. 6. If you don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. For example, let's assume you know the answer to the following question. You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ** Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for this activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 17:20:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA06175 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 17:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (root@cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA06169 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 17:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from why.whine.com ([205.150.249.1]) by mail.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <115241-29844>; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 20:20:29 -0400 Received: from why (andrew@why [205.150.249.1]) by why.whine.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA06498 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 20:20:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 20:20:09 -0400 From: Andrew Herdman X-Sender: andrew@why To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Creating a true static binary Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've noticed that whenever I create a static binary for people, that libc is never included (perhaps others as well?) in the binary. This started becomming a problem when I moved up to 2.2-960501-SNAP where libc changed from 2.2 to 3.0. Is there a way to have the binary include everything it needs into itself so that no libraries are necessary? Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 17:31:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA06921 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 17:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cats.ucsc.edu (root@cats-po-1.UCSC.EDU [128.114.129.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA06915 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 17:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scruz.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id RAA15999; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 17:31:19 -0700 Received: from osprey by scruz.ucsc.edu id aa05620; 23 Jun 96 17:31 PDT Received: (from markd@localhost) by Grizzly.COM (8.7.5/8.6.9) id RAA08070; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 17:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 17:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606240016.RAA08070@Grizzly.COM> From: Mark Diekhans To: danb@airmail.net CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Dan Baritchi on Sun, 23 Jun 1996 17:40:15 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: SNAP: ld.so: can't find libX11.so.6.0 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I just installed the 2.2-960612-SNAP and everything went fine except >for one detail. When I try to start xdm I get the following error >message: > ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libX11.so.6.0" > >I looked everywhere on the system and I can't find it. The ldconfig >path in /etc/rc includes /usr/X11R6/lib just like it should. I also >tried searching for this file on the www.cdrom.com site, but with no >luck. The mailing list archives had some references to the same file, >but I still didn't get anywhere. This file, /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6.0 and /usr/lib/libcompat.so.2.0 are missing from the 2.2-960612-SNAP (its is an alpha release, after all). I grabbed then from the 2.1 distribtion and life was good. Mark From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 17:56:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA08122 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 17:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA08117 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 17:56:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ginger.eng.umd.edu (ginger.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.204]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA12626; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 20:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by ginger.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA11104; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 20:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 20:56:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@ginger.eng.umd.edu To: Andrew Herdman cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Creating a true static binary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 23 Jun 1996, Andrew Herdman wrote: > I've noticed that whenever I create a static binary for people, that libc > is never included (perhaps others as well?) in the binary. This started > becomming a problem when I moved up to 2.2-960501-SNAP where libc changed > from 2.2 to 3.0. Is there a way to have the binary include everything it > needs into itself so that no libraries are necessary? Realize that doing what you ask is going to create huge binaries, but I guess that's your lookout ... just link your program with the -static option (check the gcc man page). > > Andrew > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 17:59:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA08222 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 17:59:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (root@cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA08217 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 17:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from why.whine.com ([205.150.249.1]) by mail.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <115263-918>; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 20:59:07 -0400 Received: from why (andrew@why [205.150.249.1]) by why.whine.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA09723; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 20:59:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 20:59:01 -0400 From: Andrew Herdman X-Sender: andrew@why To: Chuck Robey cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Creating a true static binary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 23 Jun 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > On Sun, 23 Jun 1996, Andrew Herdman wrote: > > > I've noticed that whenever I create a static binary for people, that libc > > is never included (perhaps others as well?) in the binary. This started > > becomming a problem when I moved up to 2.2-960501-SNAP where libc changed > > from 2.2 to 3.0. Is there a way to have the binary include everything it > > needs into itself so that no libraries are necessary? > > Realize that doing what you ask is going to create huge binaries, but I > guess that's your lookout ... just link your program with the -static > option (check the gcc man page). Yes I know the binaries will be huge, even without libc they are huge (thanks to motif) I've tried -static with no luck, my associates who have gotten the binaries I have created have reported that they complained about the missing libc.so.3.0, but they didn't complain about any missing motif libraries. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 18:08:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA08767 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 18:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA08735; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 18:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 18:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606240107.SAA08735@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-questions-digest, postel@metro.net From: Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Welcome to freebsd-questions Reply-To: Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -- Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list! If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to "Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG" with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe freebsd-questions freebsd-questions-digest postel@metro.net Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 18:15:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA09347 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 18:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA09341 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 18:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ginger.eng.umd.edu (ginger.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.204]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA12717; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 21:15:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by ginger.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA10772; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 21:15:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 21:15:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@ginger.eng.umd.edu To: Andrew Herdman cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Creating a true static binary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 23 Jun 1996, Andrew Herdman wrote: > On Sun, 23 Jun 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > > > On Sun, 23 Jun 1996, Andrew Herdman wrote: > > > > > I've noticed that whenever I create a static binary for people, that libc > > > is never included (perhaps others as well?) in the binary. This started > > > becomming a problem when I moved up to 2.2-960501-SNAP where libc changed > > > from 2.2 to 3.0. Is there a way to have the binary include everything it > > > needs into itself so that no libraries are necessary? > > > > Realize that doing what you ask is going to create huge binaries, but I > > guess that's your lookout ... just link your program with the -static > > option (check the gcc man page). > > Yes I know the binaries will be huge, even without libc they are huge > (thanks to motif) I've tried -static with no luck, my associates who have > gotten the binaries I have created have reported that they complained > about the missing libc.so.3.0, but they didn't complain about any missing > motif libraries. The ldd command is used to scan executeables, and reports what libs they are linked to. If you compile with the -static flag in cflags, then an ldd done on the resulting executeables should give you the error that you have not created a dynamic executeable. If it does this, then you can look to a mistake that your associates have made, because you HAVE made a standalone executeable. Dynamic executables have a file 'ld.so' prepended to them, which is a smallish binary that actually handles going out and getting the libs, when the program starts up. A program linked statically doesn't have this (always at the start of the executeable). You could verify this using the nm command, doing 'nm -n '. If it's a shared executeable, then the first symbols you'll see are dlopen, dl.... If you don't see these at the start of the nm listing (pipe it into less, it'll be huge) then, again, you can be sure you DON'T have a shared executeable. These are the best checks that come to mind. If it passes these, then you can go looking at your associate's environments, because that's causing the problem. Make SURE they're really executing your binary, not something else in the path. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 18:26:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA10065 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 18:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA10049; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 18:26:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199606240126.SAA10049@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Welcome to freebsd-questions To: Majordomo@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 18:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions-digest@freebsd.org, postel@metro.net In-Reply-To: <199606240107.SAA08735@freefall.freebsd.org> from "Majordomo@freebsd.org" at Jun 23, 96 06:07:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Majordomo@freebsd.org wrote: > > -- > > Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list! > > If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, > you can send mail to "Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG" with the following command > in the body of your email message: > > unsubscribe freebsd-questions freebsd-questions-digest postel@metro.net > > Here's the general information for the list you've > subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: > > FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions > This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not > send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the > question to be pretty technical. > From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 18:29:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA10276 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 18:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web.azstarnet.com (root@azstarnet.com [169.197.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA10271 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 18:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usr12ip31.azstarnet.com (usr12ip31.azstarnet.com [169.197.13.31]) by web.azstarnet.com (8.7.5/8.6.10) with SMTP id SAA07586 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 18:27:29 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <31CDEF5C.5081@azstarnet.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 18:29:00 -0700 From: Bill Shoemaker Reply-To: bills@azstarnet.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3 (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: opening a file Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk how to open a file in ms-dos From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 19:54:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA15967 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 19:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lint.cisco.com (lint.cisco.com [171.68.223.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA15962 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 19:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (skrishna@localhost) by lint.cisco.com (8.6.10/CISCO.SERVER.1.1) id TAA06765; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 19:54:31 -0700 Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 19:54:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Sridhar Krishnan To: questions@freebsd.org, support@cdrom.com Subject: [Problem] FreeBSD Install from DOS partition (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Friends of BSD, Since my IDE CD-ROM is not being recognized by 2.1, I started installation from the MS-DOS partition. I copied DISTS\BIN and DISTS\FLOPPIES into C:\FREEBSD directory. I started the install.bat. I am dedicating about 1 Gig of my second IDE drive to freebsd. It starts ate sector 0. In the final steps of Install, it gives the following message: Loading root image from ... Failed to load the ROOT distribution. Please correct the problem & try again. I could not find any refernce this problem in the Running FreeBSD book. Other questions: I tried different combinations of MBR (Booteasy, Standard and None). There is a confusing message when it prompts to choose MBR - it says "PC-DOS users NOT select one!". Should be "none" or option 1. Does Snap Shot 2.2 provide better support for IDE CD-ROMs ? Please help. Sridhar Krishnan From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 20:15:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA16943 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 20:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (flaq@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA16932 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 20:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA08633; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 22:15:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 22:15:41 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: Sridhar Krishnan cc: questions@freebsd.org, support@cdrom.com Subject: Re: [Problem] FreeBSD Install from DOS partition (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Did you boot with the ATAPI.FLP? On Sun, 23 Jun 1996, Sridhar Krishnan wrote: > > Friends of BSD, > > Since my IDE CD-ROM is not being recognized by 2.1, I started > installation from the MS-DOS partition. I copied DISTS\BIN and > DISTS\FLOPPIES into C:\FREEBSD directory. I started the install.bat. I am > dedicating about 1 Gig of my second IDE drive to freebsd. It starts ate > sector 0. > > In the final steps of Install, it gives the following message: > Loading root image from ... > > > Failed to load the ROOT distribution. Please correct the problem & try > again. > > I could not find any refernce this problem in the Running FreeBSD book. > Other questions: > I tried different combinations of MBR (Booteasy, Standard and None). > There is a confusing message when it prompts to choose MBR - it says > "PC-DOS users NOT select one!". Should be "none" or option 1. > > Does Snap Shot 2.2 provide better support for IDE CD-ROMs ? > > Please help. > > Sridhar Krishnan > > > > > > ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 20:32:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA17476 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 20:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prop (root@prop.caribnet.net [205.214.195.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA17446 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 20:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 23:30:15 -0400 (AST) From: Sean Batson X-Sender: valtech@localhost.sunbeach.net To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: James Raynard , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Offical Release of 2.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You mean Mitsumi Atapi or another Atapi. The last thing I was told that I'll have to wait until August before the new release is out, which should correct the Mitsumi Atapi Problem. On Sun, 23 Jun 1996, Doug White wrote: > On Sat, 22 Jun 1996, Sean Batson wrote: > > > Well the last time I checked it doesn't because I'm using the 2.1-Release. > > and have been with out the use of my Atapi IDE CD-ROM for quite some time. > > What did you check? I've helped countless people get atapi working with > 2.1-R. > > Did you use the ATAPI.FLP boot floppy? #1 most common error. > > If you're up, just look in LINT; the necessary options are there. > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 21:10:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA19792 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 21:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netcom10.netcom.com (root@netcom10.netcom.com [192.100.81.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA19785 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 21:10:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mypc (nickliu@localhost.netcom.com [127.0.0.1]) by netcom10.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id VAA15224; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 21:10:10 -0700 Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 21:10:10 -0700 Message-Id: <199606240410.VAA15224@netcom10.netcom.com> X-Sender: nickliu@netcom.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: Nick Liu Subject: Networking my PCs Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've posted the question to comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc already but no one responded to me, and I do need this answered. So, pleeeeease HELP? I have a FBSD box (2.1) and another PC that runs Win95. I have only one modem and I have read it somewhere that I can use FBSD as a gateway between computers. Both PCs have NE2000 compatible cards and the FBSD box is able to detect the card. I would greatly apprecaite any help from you. LIVE LONG AND PROSPER. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 21:30:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA22134 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 21:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gandalf.hk.linkage.net (gandalf.hk.linkage.net [202.76.4.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA22128; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 21:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spring.hk.linkage.net (spring.hk.linkage.net [202.76.4.61]) by gandalf.hk.linkage.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA11258; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:28:37 +0800 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:28:37 +0800 Message-Id: <199606240428.MAA11258@gandalf.hk.linkage.net> X-Sender: lunglung@pop3.hk.linkage.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org From: Lung Subject: AMD PCI ethernet card. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Support, I also met this problem when I install the FreeBSD 2.1, how can I solve it? Thanks for your attention Lung ------------------------------------------ >From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 8 23:23:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA13951 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 23:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aic.am (AIC.AM [194.67.30.68]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA13053 Mon, 8 Apr 1996 23:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ran@localhost) by aic.am (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA10656; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:12:10 +0500 (BSD) From: "Ran d'Adi" Message-Id: <199604090512.KAA10656@aic.am> Subject: AMD PCI ethernet card. To: hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:12:10 +0500 (BSD) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi ! I have a PCI Ethernet card : AM79C970KC - chip, (model PE-970) When trying to boot with the option "-v" the following messages appears: > pci0:13: AMD, device=0x2000, class network (ethernet) [no driver assigned] > map(10): io(ff80) Can I make it work ? If yes, what shall I do ? Thanks in advance hrant -------------------------------------- *^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ LinkAGE Online Limited ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^* # # # lunglung@hk.linkage.net info: info@hk.linkage.net # # Lung Qi Zhen help: help@hk.linkage.net # # Tel: (852) 2331-8123 Fax: (852) 2795-1262 # # Dial-up No. 2953-0123, 3002-6000 # # FAQ: http://www.hk.linkage.net/faq/faq.html # # # *^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^* From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 21:34:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA22395 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 21:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gandalf.hk.linkage.net (gandalf.hk.linkage.net [202.76.4.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA22390; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 21:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spring.hk.linkage.net (spring.hk.linkage.net [202.76.4.61]) by gandalf.hk.linkage.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA11403; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:32:32 +0800 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:32:32 +0800 Message-Id: <199606240432.MAA11403@gandalf.hk.linkage.net> X-Sender: lunglung@pop3.hk.linkage.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org From: Lung Subject: AMD PCI ethernet card. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Support, I also met this problem when I install the FreeBSD 2.1, how can I solve it? Thanks for your attention Lung ------------------------------------------ >From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 8 23:23:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA13951 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 23:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aic.am (AIC.AM [194.67.30.68]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA13053 Mon, 8 Apr 1996 23:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ran@localhost) by aic.am (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA10656; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:12:10 +0500 (BSD) From: "Ran d'Adi" Message-Id: <199604090512.KAA10656@aic.am> Subject: AMD PCI ethernet card. To: hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:12:10 +0500 (BSD) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi ! I have a PCI Ethernet card : AM79C970KC - chip, (model PE-970) When trying to boot with the option "-v" the following messages appears: > pci0:13: AMD, device=0x2000, class network (ethernet) [no driver assigned] > map(10): io(ff80) Can I make it work ? If yes, what shall I do ? Thanks in advance hrant -------------------------------------- *^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ LinkAGE Online Limited ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^* # # # lunglung@hk.linkage.net info: info@hk.linkage.net # # Lung Qi Zhen help: help@hk.linkage.net # # Tel: (852) 2331-8123 Fax: (852) 2795-1262 # # Dial-up No. 2953-0123, 3002-6000 # # FAQ: http://www.hk.linkage.net/faq/faq.html # # # *^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^* From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 21:46:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA22988 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 21:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1-csl.csl.nutecnet.com.br ([200.248.184.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA22980 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 21:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME ([200.248.249.106]) by srv1-csl.csl.nutecnet.com.br (8.6.8.1/SCA-6.6) with SMTP id EAA16950 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 04:51:15 GMT Message-ID: <3160C3C0.540D@interage.com.br> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 22:05:52 -0800 From: Alexandre Stumpf Organization: Interage Integradora X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Digiboard 8e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Is it possible to use DigiBoard 8e with BSD 2.1 ? Do I need any device driver from DigiBoard ? Thanks in advance Alexandre Stumpf stumpf@interage.com.br From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 23:25:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA27298 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 23:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news2.swip.net (news2.swip.net [192.71.220.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA27282 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 23:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from microfront.se ([192.36.49.23]) by news2.swip.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA25802 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:25:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from volf.microfront.se by mfsvinx.microfront.se id aa12304; Mon, 24 Jun 96 6:56:48 MST To: questions@freebsd.org From: Volf Cramsky Subject: DNS + Sendmail problems X-Originating-Host: volf Reply-To: volf@microfront.se Message-Id: <1996Jun24.082807+0000@volf> Date: 24 Jun 1996 08:28:06 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: BWMail for Windows Version 3.2 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello from Sweden. I have problem to get my send mail working right! (2.1.0-release) I have problem to arrrange a second domain in my main domain. ex. My main domain is: dom1.se I try to configure an sub domain via a router: subdom1.dom1.se It does not work. Can any one help me by sending a simple ex file for how the dns files might look like and some sendmail.cf considerations? Thanks in advance. _____________________________________________ Volf Cramsky volf@microfront.se Microfront Sjouddev. 8 352 46 Vaxjo Sweden Tel +46 470 101 50 Fax +46 470 211 50 ______________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 23:26:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA27432 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 23:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news2.swip.net (news2.swip.net [192.71.220.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA27424 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 23:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from microfront.se ([192.36.49.23]) by news2.swip.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA25809 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:26:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from volf.microfront.se by mfsvinx.microfront.se id aa12311; Mon, 24 Jun 96 6:57:48 MST To: questions@freebsd.org From: Volf Cramsky Subject: Subscribe me X-Originating-Host: volf Reply-To: volf@microfront.se Message-Id: <1996Jun24.082907+0000@volf> Date: 24 Jun 1996 08:29:07 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: BWMail for Windows Version 3.2 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Subscribe me From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 00:17:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA00250 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 00:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apollo.is.co.za (apollo.is.co.za [196.4.160.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA00245 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 00:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from admin.is.co.za (admin.is.co.za [196.23.0.9]) by apollo.is.co.za (8.7.5/8.7.5/IShub#2) with ESMTP id JAA10380; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 09:17:46 +0200 (GMT) Received: (from robin@localhost) by admin.is.co.za (8.7.5/8.7.5/ISsubsidiary#1) id JAA11708; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 09:17:45 +0200 (GMT) From: Robin Lunn Message-Id: <199606240717.JAA11708@admin.is.co.za> Subject: Re: your mail To: hey@tuns.ca (Yingjun (Ian) He) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 09:17:45 +0200 (GMT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199606232301.QAA00348@freefall.freebsd.org> from "Yingjun (Ian) He" at Jun 23, 96 08:01:09 pm X-Organisation: The Internet Solution (Pty) Ltd. X-Phone: +27-11-4475566; Fax: +27-11-4475567 Reply-To: robin@is.co.za X-AIDAT-Member: See http://www.aidat.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Yingjun (Ian) He wrote: > I am running FreeBSD2.1 with X-window. How can I get the graphics login window > instead of the text mode login prompt when I boot up the system or when I > logout? Add the following to /etc/rc.local: echo -n " xdm" /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon & -- _ __ | Only my ideas here unless I say otherwise... ' ) ) / | (BeamJack@IRC) /--' ____/___o __ | "Nondum amabam, et amare amabam... quaerebam / \_(_) /_) (__/) )_ | quid amarem, amans amare." - St Augustine From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 01:24:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA03848 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 01:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oznet16.ozemail.com.au (oznet16.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.109]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA03843 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 01:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au (oznet02.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.124]) by oznet16.ozemail.com.au (8.7.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA00957 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:24:07 +1000 (EST) Received: from rlyon.mynet.au (slmel7p40.ozemail.com.au [203.22.156.128]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA05402; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:24:48 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:15:03 +1000 (EST) From: Richard Lyon X-Sender: rlyon@rlyon.mynet.au To: questions@freebsd.org cc: rlyon@ozemail.com.au Subject: Which version of Tex? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi All, I want to start running LaTex on my FreeBSD machine. I have seen some previous mail recommending the teTex port. Currently I am running FreeBSD Version 2.1.0. The teTex port does not appear to be available for this version. Has anyone tried compiling and running the teTex port under 2.1.0 anyway? Any good recommendation on good LaTex books? Is there any good on-line documentation? Regards Richard ... From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 01:37:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA04518 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 01:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oznet16.ozemail.com.au (oznet16.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.109]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA04510 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 01:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au (oznet02.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.124]) by oznet16.ozemail.com.au (8.7.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA01971; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:37:06 +1000 (EST) Received: from rlyon.mynet.au (slmel7p40.ozemail.com.au [203.22.156.128]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA09119; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:37:39 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:27:53 +1000 (EST) From: Richard Lyon X-Sender: rlyon@rlyon.mynet.au To: Robin Lunn cc: "Yingjun (Ian) He" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199606240717.JAA11708@admin.is.co.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, Robin Lunn wrote: > Yingjun (Ian) He wrote: > > I am running FreeBSD2.1 with X-window. How can I get the graphics login window > > instead of the text mode login prompt when I boot up the system or when I > > logout? > > Add the following to /etc/rc.local: > > echo -n " xdm" > /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon & > Do you really have to do this? After adding the following line to /etc/ttys ttyv3 "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm on secure I found the X11 login screen appeared after bootup was completed. Regards Richard ... From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 02:44:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA11277 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 02:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from k96.kapitza.ras.ru (k96.kapitza.ras.ru [194.88.1.36]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA11251 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 02:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ve@localhost) by k96.kapitza.ras.ru (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00329; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 13:43:42 +0400 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 13:43:40 +0400 (MSD) From: Vladimir Eltsov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SunOS 5.3->FreeBSD 2.1R NFS problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, When I mount FreeBSD file system from Solaris any time file is overwritten from Sun I receive a 'File error' message on Sun console. However, file contents is OK and all other operatons are OK. Any ideas? Thanks for any help. Vladimir. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 03:21:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA02238 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 03:21:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from INDO-SERV.indosat.net.id ([202.155.0.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA02231 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 03:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from canary.iwan.org (iwan@[202.155.1.43]) by INDO-SERV.indosat.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA13892; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 17:20:43 -0700 (GMT) Message-ID: <31CE6E23.41C67EA6@indosat.net.id> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 17:29:55 +0700 From: Iwan Leonardus Organization: skd X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: keyboard lock Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hello thanks for your time answering my question about x.25 driver I remember you said something about keyboard lock on certain type of mother board when the kernel is configured for ps/2 mouse. I think it happened to one of my computer. it is Micronic motherboard. Is there any solution yet? I tried to toggle the num lock key during system boot up after detecting the ps/2 mouse, it seems ok, but if there is any other solution i like to know Thanks and best regards Iwan Leonardus From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 03:23:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA02328 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 03:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate.nation-net.com (www.nation-net.com [194.159.125.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA02320 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 03:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from w14.winecellar.co.uk (194.159.125.14) by mailgate.nation-net.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Mon, 24 Jun 1996 11:24:36 +0000 Message-ID: <31CE6C4E.7EB3@nation-net.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 11:22:06 +0100 From: Paul Walsh X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: ARP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The host is me, is this a DNS missing pointer/A record problem? Jun 24 11:06:34 www /kernel: arplookup 194.159.125.14 failed: host is not on local network Cheers Paul Walsh. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 03:58:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA04168 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 03:58:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA04159 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 03:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA04497; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 01:16:03 GMT Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 01:16:03 GMT Message-Id: <199606240116.BAA04497@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: hey@tuns.ca CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199606232301.QAA00348@freefall.freebsd.org> (hey@tuns.ca) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am running FreeBSD2.1 with X-window. How can I get the graphics login window > instead of the text mode login prompt when I boot up the system or when I > logout? You need to run xdm from /etc/rc.local (not, contrary to some documentation somewhere, from /etc/ttys). -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 03:58:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA04277 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 03:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA04266 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 03:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA04520; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 01:19:27 GMT Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 01:19:27 GMT Message-Id: <199606240119.BAA04520@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: andrew@why.whine.com CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Andrew Herdman on Sun, 23 Jun 1996 20:20:09 -0400) Subject: Re: Creating a true static binary Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I've noticed that whenever I create a static binary for people, that libc > is never included (perhaps others as well?) in the binary. This started > becomming a problem when I moved up to 2.2-960501-SNAP where libc changed > from 2.2 to 3.0. Is there a way to have the binary include everything it > needs into itself so that no libraries are necessary? How are you creating the binary? 'gcc -static' worked for me on 2.1.0. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 04:35:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA07704 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 04:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bdd.net ([207.61.78.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA07699 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 04:35:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by bdd.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA03170; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 07:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 07:35:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Stein To: Alexandre Stumpf cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Digiboard 8e In-Reply-To: <3160C3C0.540D@interage.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Alexandre Stumpf wrote: > Is it possible to use DigiBoard 8e with BSD 2.1 ? Do I need any > device driver from DigiBoard ? Yes. You have to build a new kernel, and include the 'dgb0' driver. See LINT for syntax. -- mat. +-Matthew Stein-------------------------------------------- matt@bdd.net-+ | Network Design phone: +1 519 823-8577 | | ButtonDown Digital fax: +1 519 823-9556 | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 06:19:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA20310 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 06:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonic.urich.edu (sonic.urich.edu [141.166.97.173]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA20304 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 06:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sonic.urich.edu (5.65/1.35) id AA20353; Mon, 24 Jun 96 09:13:56 -0400 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 09:13:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Development To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: index Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Please send me a list of possible newsgroups. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 06:46:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA21622 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 06:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix1.ism.com.br (root@[200.255.211.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA21616 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 06:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clpc1.compuland.com.br ([200.255.96.22]) by unix1.ism.com.br (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA13914; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 10:45:27 -0300 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 10:45:27 -0300 Message-Id: <199606241345.KAA13914@unix1.ism.com.br> X-Sender: compland@ism.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Nick Liu From: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Subject: Re: Networking my PCs Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: Try the SAMBA package. It comes in the ports collection, on the CD. It will permit you to share printers and disks between your FBSD box and the Win95 box. Samba is very good and works nicely. regards, Helio. >I've posted the question to comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc already but no one >responded to me, and I do need this answered. So, pleeeeease HELP? > >I have a FBSD box (2.1) and another PC that runs Win95. I have only one >modem and I have read it somewhere that I can use FBSD as a gateway between >computers. >Both PCs have NE2000 compatible cards and the FBSD box is able to detect the >card. I would greatly apprecaite any help from you. > >LIVE LONG AND PROSPER. > > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 06:56:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA22031 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 06:56:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA22026 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 06:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from discovery.brad.ac.uk (root@discovery.brad.ac.uk [143.53.2.7]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id GAA09165 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 06:56:20 -0700 Received: from morph.acc.brad.ac.uk (user root) by discovery.brad.ac.uk; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:53:26 +0100 Received: from dcsun4 (irpurdie@dcsun4.comp.brad.ac.uk [143.53.30.3]) by morph.acc.brad.ac.uk (8.7.2) with SMTP id OAA07850 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:56:04 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <31CE9DD5.7B4E@comp.brad.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:53:25 +0100 From: MAD Mosher Organization: University of Bradford X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3 (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Boot partition? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm very interested in nabbing FreeBSD for use at home. We've got 4 machines in the house (one Atari with Linux, and three PCs (one Windows3.1, one DOS6.22 and one OS/2!)) and some spare 386 motherboards. Basically, would it be possible, using network cards, to get all four of these to 'talk' to a 386 running FreeBSD? I don't want to take up all your time asking you how, just simply is it? Also, it sounds like a nice OS that I'd like to consider myself, but I also like DOS. Is it possible, like Linux, to get FreeBSD to install it's own boot sector and to ask the user which OS to use at boot time? Thanks for any help you can give - certainly looks like a nice alternative to memory and disc-hungry Linux! Cheers, Mosh -- I.R.Purdie@comp.brad.ac.uk a.k.a. MAD Mosher a.k.a. That Long-haired Git Rock DJ on RamAir 945AM/98FM (Yorkshire Cable) Also, check out my WWW Music Page at http://www.brad.ac.uk/~irpurdie/MusicPage From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 07:13:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA22987 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 07:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from achilles.k12.ar.us (achilles.k12.ar.us [165.29.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA22966 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 07:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tims95.k12.ar.us by achilles.k12.ar.us with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA026385468; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 09:11:08 -0500 Message-Id: <31CEA28B.1D00@achilles.k12.ar.us> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 09:13:31 -0500 From: Timothy Stoddard Organization: Arkansas Public School Computer Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FTP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have purchaded the Walnut creek CD-ROM and mounted on a unix system. When I try to load a new freeBSD system it loads the root image fine. Then it says cannot find bin/bin.aa which is on the CD under dists/bin/bin.aa Can a link be created somehow? Retrieving packages from the CD works fine. Tim Stoddard From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 07:36:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA25355 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 07:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA25344 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 07:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA05479; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:36:47 GMT Message-Id: <199606241436.OAA05479@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA224387029; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:37:09 -0600 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:37:09 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: irpurdie@comp.brad.ac.uk Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31CE9DD5.7B4E@comp.brad.ac.uk> (message from MAD Mosher on Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:53:25 +0100) Subject: Re: Boot partition? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "MAD" == MAD Mosher writes: MAD> Basically, would it be possible, using network cards, to get MAD> all four of these to 'talk' to a 386 running FreeBSD? Yes. MAD> Is it possible, like Linux, to get FreeBSD to install it's MAD> own boot sector and to ask the user which OS to use at boot MAD> time? Yes. MAD> Thanks for any help you can give - certainly looks like a MAD> nice alternative to memory and disc-hungry Linux! No problem ... I hope you like FreeBSD! -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 07:53:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA26855 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 07:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jack.Colorado.EDU (jack.Colorado.EDU [128.138.149.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA26844 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 07:53:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jack (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jack.Colorado.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3/CNS-4.0p) with SMTP id IAA03865 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:49:35 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <31CEAAFF.7F4C@Colorado.EDU> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:49:35 -0600 From: "Mark O'Lear" Organization: University of Colorado X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Welcome to freebsd-questions References: <199606240107.SAA08735@freefall.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I just got the following message addressed to: freebsd-questions-digest@freefall.freebsd.org, postel@metro.net from: Majordomo@freebsd.org Is this an error, since I am not subscribed to freebsd-questions-digest, nor am I postel@metro.net, or did everyone on freebsd-questions get this? Majordomo@freebsd.org wrote: > > -- > > Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list! > > If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, > you can send mail to "Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG" with the following command > in the body of your email message: > > unsubscribe freebsd-questions freebsd-questions-digest postel@metro.net > > Here's the general information for the list you've > subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: > > FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions > This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not > send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the > question to be pretty technical. -- Mark O'Lear \ e-mail: Mark.Olear@Colorado.EDU University of Colorado \ phone: (303) 492-3798 Telecomm. Svcs. (CB 313) \ fax: (303) 492-5105 Boulder, CO 80309 \ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 08:09:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA28025 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haywire.DIALix.COM (root@haywire.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA28007 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by haywire.DIALix.COM (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA01998 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 23:08:35 +0800 (WST) Received: from GATEWAY by haywire.DIALix.COM with netnews for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (problems to: usenet@haywire.dialix.com) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:13:53 GMT From: mark@seeware.DIALix.oz.au (Mark Hannon) Message-ID: Organization: Private FreeBSD site Subject: ppp with dynamic password Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have just started using a new dialin system to my employer. The login script consists of a dynamically allocated password (the password is set by a little credit-card device which is synced to a master clock and generates the password). Anybody with any ideas how to set this up with ppp?? I have tried: epa: set phone xxxxxxxxx set timeout 120 dial But the dial succeeds and the login never does, leaving the connection hanging. The only way I have managed to succeed is to use the 'term' command and punch it all in :-(. I would like to have it as automatic as possible, ie only punch in the password. Regards/mark -- +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | Mark Hannon,| FreeBSD - Free Unix for your PC| mark@seeware.DIALix.oz.au| | Melbourne, | PGP key available by fingering | epamha@epa.ericsson.se | | Australia | seeware@melbourne.DIALix.oz.au | | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 08:09:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA28032 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haywire.DIALix.COM (root@haywire.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA28008 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by haywire.DIALix.COM (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA02001 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 23:08:36 +0800 (WST) Received: from GATEWAY by haywire.DIALix.COM with netnews for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (problems to: usenet@haywire.dialix.com) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:31:49 GMT From: mark@seeware.DIALix.oz.au (Mark Hannon) Message-ID: Organization: Private FreeBSD site References: Subject: Re: Hard drive went insane Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article , andrew@why.whine.com (Andrew Herdman) writes: > My FBSD 960323-SNAP box went into a seizure this evening, after a reboot > i was able to get the following messages out of /var/log/messages > > Jun 19 21:36:30 ghoul /kernel: wd0a: wdstart: timeout waiting for DRQ writing fsbn 112 of 112-127 (wd0 bn 112; cn 112 tn 0 sn 0)wd0: status 51 error 4 Hi Andrew, I saw similar messages when I updated my motherboard and tried to run the PCI bus at 40MHz (instead of the maximum of 33MHz or 20Mhz in my case with an external clock of 40MHz). Try looking at your motherboard settings. Rgds/mark -- +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | Mark Hannon,| FreeBSD - Free Unix for your PC| mark@seeware.DIALix.oz.au| | Melbourne, | PGP key available by fingering | epamha@epa.ericsson.se | | Australia | seeware@melbourne.DIALix.oz.au | | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 08:16:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA28627 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cornus.FSL.ORST.EDU (root@FSL.ORST.EDU [128.193.112.105]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA28619 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:16:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from picea.FSL.ORST.EDU (hernanw@picea.FSL.ORST.EDU [128.193.112.3]) by cornus.FSL.ORST.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA28050; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:16:27 -0700 Received: (from hernanw@localhost) by picea.FSL.ORST.EDU (8.7/8.6.9) id IAA14827; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:16:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Hernandez To: "Joseph D. Orthoefer" cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: sup servers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk sup.freebsd.org freefall.FreeBSD.org (204.216.27.4) sup2.freebsd.org insecurity.shockwave.com (192.5.5.16) sup3.freebsd.org lucus.fsl.orst.edu (128.193.112.132) On Sun, 23 Jun 1996, Joseph D. Orthoefer wrote: > Are there currently any publicly accessable sup servers actually running? > > Thanks > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 08:43:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA00990 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix1.ism.com.br (root@unix1.ism.com.br [200.255.211.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA00973 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clpc1.compuland.com.br ([200.255.96.22]) by unix1.ism.com.br (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA00745 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:43:45 -0300 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:43:45 -0300 Message-Id: <199606241543.MAA00745@unix1.ism.com.br> X-Sender: compland@ism.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Subject: curious ping Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: I have two machines attached to a hub. Both using SMC Etherpower. If I ping from machine "A" to machine "B", with the smallest packet size (64bytes), I got lots of lost packets (about 30-40%). But if I raise it just a little bit (108bytes) no packet lost! Why this happens ? Thanks a lot! Helio. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 08:55:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA01814 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cube.i-pi.com (cube.i-pi.com [198.49.217.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA01809 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ingham@localhost) by cube.i-pi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA04332 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:58:21 -0600 Message-Id: <199606241458.IAA04332@cube.i-pi.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Kenneth Ingham Date: Mon, 24 Jun 96 08:58:20 -0600 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Solution: I want PPP to stay up all the time References: <199606211331.JAA26255@clark.net> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I fixed the problem by adding the option "modem" to my /etc/ppp/options file. Also, for anyone interested, I'm starting ppp via /etc/ttys. Here's the line: cuaa1 "/usr/sbin/pppd /dev/cuaa1 115200 -detach" unknown on insecure I just unplugged the phone line and it came right back up when I replugged it. This solution came from Frank Seltzer in response to a question here by Cameron Slye. Thanks to all who responded. Kenneth From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 09:33:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA03611 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 09:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odo.elan.af.mil (odo.elan.af.mil [129.198.69.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA03606 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 09:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by odo.elan.af.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for @odo.elan.af.mil:questions@freebsd.org id JAA19353; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 09:33:25 -0700 Received: by odo.elan.af.mil from ws15.elan.af.mil id edw019344; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 09:33:25 PDT Received: by ws15.elan.af.mil (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/951211.SGI) for questions@freebsd.org id JAA14460; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 09:33:20 -0700 Received: by localhost from ws15[localhost] id edw014455; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 09:33:20 PDT Message-ID: <31CEC34F.41C6@odo.elan.af.mil> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 09:33:19 -0700 From: "Jon P. Morgan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; IRIX 5.3 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Intel Atlantis Motherboard X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have an Intel Atlantis Motherboard with a 133 MHZ CPU. During boot, The console screen goes out during what appears to be device probing. I am able to get into device reconfiguration but the console will screw up before going into the debuger. I am running Freebsd 2.1 succesfully on my other P75. -- Jon P. Morgan Computer Scientist Data Systems Development Computer Sciences Corp. PO box 445 Edwards AFB, Ca. 93523 805-277-7645 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 09:33:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA03627 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 09:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from csd.cs.technion.ac.il (csd.cs.technion.ac.il [132.68.32.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA03604 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 09:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nadav@localhost) by csd.cs.technion.ac.il (8.6.11/8.6.10) id TAA05127; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 19:33:17 +0300 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 19:33:16 +0300 (IDT) From: Nadav Eiron X-Sender: nadav@csd To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Real bad installation lockup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I have a case of installation lockup while copying files to the disk (pretty sure it's while trying to write them). The machine is a DEC Venturis 100MHz Pentium, 32MB RAM, DE435 ethernet card, two EIDE drives (both masters, one 640MB fireball with Win95 on it, and the other a 1600MB Western Digital on which I try to install FreeBSD). There is also an Adaptec 2940, but there are no devices on it (I also tried removing it...). I install from a Creative CDROM (on the first EIDE controller). I also tried to install from an MSDOS partition, with the same results. The case history is really weird: I had FreeBSD running on the machine for about 2 weeks when Win95 crashed, and messed up the CMOS setup (anyhow I had to reset all settings to get it to boot). From that day, FreeBSD would hang up during boot when it tried to fsck the disks, with the drive light on. Since there wasn't much on it, I decided to reinstall. However, the installation locks up with the same symptoms when trying to copy some of the files. I next suspected a hardware failure caused all this mess. I moved the 1600MB disk to a similar machine (but with a 75MHz CPU and 24MB of RAM), and it worked like a charm! This made me almost sure it's a hardware problem. I had my machine's motherboard replaced today (it's still under warranty and Digital has really good service), and the symptoms remain the same!!! I already tried almost any trick I can think of (BIOS settings, installing to another disk, etc.) Any guess??? I'm really desperate on this (the story started almost a month ago). Thanks alot, Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 09:41:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA03995 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 09:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [204.160.242.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA03989 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 09:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harlie.bfd.com (bastion.bfd.com [204.160.242.2]) by horst.bfd.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA14257 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 09:41:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 09:41:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: tickadj questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm working on syncronizing the clocks on our network, and as the first step, I wanted to use tickadj to cooerce the clocks to be as accurate as possible by themselves, so that they will stay accurate without an external ntp connection. tickadj seems to be the right command on the Solaris and FreeBSD machines. The questions I have are 1) new_tick: as I understand it, this tells the system how many microseconds should pass before it ticks the hz counter. Is this correct? This gives the ability to correct to 100PPM, or about 8 seconds. 2) new_tickadj: I'm not sure I understand this one. It obviously isn't simply added to tick, otherwise there would be no point. I suspect that it is added to the tick count once a second, for adjustments down to 1PPM. 3) Does FreeBSD read or write the CMOS clock while running? I know with SunOS 4.0, I have to turn this off. For example, the machine that will probably be our internal NTP server is just over 14 seconds fast a day. by my understanding, I should either a) add 1 to the tick value (8.6 seconds per day), and set tickadj to 62 (-62?). b) add 2 to the tick value (overshooting the correction) and set tickadj to 38 (-38?). Figures the hardware with the worst clock, the one that is off not in parts per million, but parts per hundred, would be running Linux, which doesn't have tickadj. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 10:34:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA09940 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 10:34:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bdd.net ([207.61.78.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA09913 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 10:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by bdd.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA05217; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 13:12:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 13:12:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Stein To: "Jon P. Morgan" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel Atlantis Motherboard In-Reply-To: <31CEC34F.41C6@odo.elan.af.mil> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, Jon P. Morgan wrote: > I have an Intel Atlantis Motherboard with a 133 MHZ CPU. > During boot, The console screen goes out during what appears > to be device probing. > I am able to get into device reconfiguration but the console > will screw up before going into the debuger. > I am running Freebsd 2.1 succesfully on my other P75. Are you now using a new video card? If so, is it an ATi Mach64? If yes to both, check out... 'http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/freebsd-faq67.html#67' -- mat. +-Matthew Stein-------------------------------------------- matt@bdd.net-+ | Network Design phone: +1 519 823-8577 | | ButtonDown Digital fax: +1 519 823-9556 | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 10:35:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA10091 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 10:35:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA10082 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 10:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA28524; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 10:31:32 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606241731.KAA28524@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: index To: devjrt@sonic.urich.edu (Development) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 10:31:32 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Development" at Jun 24, 96 09:13:56 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Please send me a list of possible newsgroups. > Thanks. Please send to the list manager instead of one of the lists: echo "lists" | mail majordomo@freebsd.org Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 10:39:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA10607 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 10:39:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA10595 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 10:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA28538; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 10:34:22 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606241734.KAA28538@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Welcome to freebsd-questions To: Mark.Olear@Colorado.EDU (Mark O'Lear) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 10:34:22 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31CEAAFF.7F4C@Colorado.EDU> from "Mark O'Lear" at Jun 24, 96 08:49:35 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi, > > I just got the following message addressed to: > > freebsd-questions-digest@freefall.freebsd.org, postel@metro.net > > from: > > Majordomo@freebsd.org > > Is this an error, since I am not subscribed to freebsd-questions-digest, > nor am I postel@metro.net, or did everyone on freebsd-questions get > this? This seems to be an improperly configured list exploder, since the message to the exploder from our list server showed up on our lists instead of only theirs. Since we haven't seen massive duplication, either JMB hit the thing before it had a chance (you could automate this by looking for the subscribed messages on the list), or the owner of the thing fixed it up themselves. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 10:44:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA11424 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 10:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyber1.cyberhall.com ([206.154.165.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA11180 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 10:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dbrockus@localhost) by cyber1.cyberhall.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA16757; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:44:52 GMT Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:44:51 +0000 () From: David Brockus To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Travan tape drives and FreeBSD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have a few question about tape drives. I am interested in buying a HP Colorado T4000s for use on a FreeBSD 2.0.5R machine, mainly because it's not as expensive as a DAT drive. It's a SCSI-2 drive that uses Travan 4 tapes. Does FreeBSD support SCSI-2 QIC drives like the T4000s? Has anyone used this drive in their system? Thanks in advance. David Brockus From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 10:47:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA11896 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 10:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA11889 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 10:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA28564; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 10:43:28 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606241743.KAA28564@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Intel Atlantis Motherboard To: morgan@odo.elan.af.mil (Jon P. Morgan) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 10:43:28 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31CEC34F.41C6@odo.elan.af.mil> from "Jon P. Morgan" at Jun 24, 96 09:33:19 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have an Intel Atlantis Motherboard with a 133 MHZ CPU. > During boot, The console screen goes out during what appears > to be device probing. > I am able to get into device reconfiguration but the console > will screw up before going into the debuger. > I am running Freebsd 2.1 succesfully on my other P75. You have a MACH64 video card, which violates the standard for the IBM graphics card it is attempting to emulate by listening to port 0x3e8 when it has not been put in a specific mode that requires this. In other words, MACH64 cards are broken. You can work around the problem in two stages: 1) a) At the boot prompt, type "-c" and hit return b) At the next prompt, type "visual" and hit return c) Disable the SIO (serial port) driver. The conflict is with the SIo probe for COM3. d) Install normally. 2) a) Modify /sys/i386/isa/sio.c to remove 0x3e8 b) Rebuild and install a new kernel c) Reboot. Your serial ports, other than COM3, will once again be active. This is described in the handbook and in the 2.1R FAQ. It is fixed in more recent install snapshots by disabling com3 to start with. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 11:23:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA17191 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 11:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA17173 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 11:23:16 -0700 (PDT) From: af@biomath.jussieu.fr Received: from mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr [134.157.72.87]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) with SMTP id SAA04259 ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:29:05 +0200 (METDST) Received: from garfield.biomath.jussieu.fr (garfield) by mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (5.67b/jn930126+af960507(mailhost)) at Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:28:37 +0100 Received: from (af@localhost) by garfield.biomath.jussieu.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) id SAA13558 ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:28:29 +0100 (GMT-1) Message-Id: <199606241728.SAA13558@garfield.biomath.jussieu.fr> Subject: Re: Boot partition? To: irpurdie@comp.brad.ac.uk (MAD Mosher) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:28:29 +0100 (GMT-1) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31CE9DD5.7B4E@comp.brad.ac.uk> from "MAD Mosher" at Jun 24, 96 02:53:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk MAD Mosher wrote / a ecrit: > > I'm very interested in nabbing FreeBSD for use at home. We've got 4 > machines in the house (one Atari with Linux, and three PCs (one > Windows3.1, one DOS6.22 and one OS/2!)) and some spare 386 motherboards. > > Basically, would it be possible, using network cards, to get all four of > these to 'talk' to a 386 running FreeBSD? I don't want to take up all > your time asking you how, just simply is it? Basically, yes, unless Atari Linux has no TCP/IP sofware, or can't drive any Ethernet card (I know next to nothing about Atari's) -- but I doubt it could be. On the Windows PC, you can use the Microsoft TCP/IP stack for Windows and the numerous freeware or shareware Winsock applications for terminal emulation, file transfer, mail etc. On the DOS one, you can get a packet driver for your particular Ethernet interface and use NCSA Telnet for terminal and file transfer. I'm not sure there's a "free" (or bundled) TCP/IP stack for OS/2, last time I checked, it seemed that Warp's could only talk over async lines (and not drive an Ethernet card). But I may be wrong. I'm sure IBM sells one anyway. You will probably also want to install SAMBA on your FreeBSD machine. This will allow DOS, Windows (and OS/2?) machines to use the FreeBSD machine's filesystems as network drives. The client is built into Windows, and I think Microsoft gives the DOS client for free (on their ftp server ftp.microsoft.com). > Also, it sounds like a nice OS that I'd like to consider myself, > but I > also like DOS. Is it possible, like Linux, to get FreeBSD to install > it's own boot sector and to ask the user which OS to use at boot time? Yes... the FreeBSD installation process allows you to install a piece of code in your disk's MBR that will prompt you to hit F1 or F2 etc. depending on the partition (and disk) you wish to boot from, and then let you choose which operating system to run. Welcome to FreeBSD. Make the step, take the necessary time to carefully read the doc files and you won't regret it. It's a wonderful system. Good luck, _Alain_ -- Alain FAUCONNET Ingenieur systeme - System Manager AP-HP/SIM Public Health 91 bld de l'Hopital 75013 PARIS FRANCE Medical Computing Research Labs Mail: af@biomath.jussieu.fr Tel: (+33) 1-40-77-96-19 Fax: (+33) 1-45-86-80-68 I've RTFMed. It says: "Refer to your system administrator" But... I *am* the system administrator :-] From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 12:05:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA22820 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22814 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:05:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA16833 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:05:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamil Weatherbee To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PROBLENS WITH INSTALLATION (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Technical Support Walnut Creek CDROM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 08 Jun 1996 22:47:49 -0200 From: Marco Antonio de Lima To: support@cdrom.com Subject: Re: PROBLENS WITH INSTALLATION Marco Antonio de Lima wrote: > > I HAVE TWO PROBLENS WITH MY INSTALLATION: > > FIRST: I HAVE TWO DISK 1 QUANTUN FIRE BALL OF 1.2 GBYTES WITH A DOS PARTITION AND A > MASTER BOOT. > 1 QUANTUN MAVERICK OF 540 MBYTES FOR A UNIX PARTITION WITH > GEOMETRY 1049 17 63. > > I WANT TO INSTALL A UNIX FREEBSD IN THE DRIVER D: BUT ALWAYS THAT I TRY TO INSTALL A > LOST A MASTER BOOT OF DOS. WHAT I DO? I READ ABOUT THIS PROBLEM IN BOOK THAT CAME WITH A > CD, BUT DIDN'T RESOLVE. > > SECOND: MY CDROM IS SANYO AND MY SOUNDCARD IS MEDIA MAGIC. WELL THE FREEBSD DIDN'T > KNOW. WHAT I DO? IS THERE A DRIVER OR SOFTWARE THAT HELP ME. > > PLEASE I NEED HELP, BECAUSE I AM INSTALLING IN MY WORK. I WILL WAIT YOUR ANSWER. > > THANKS A LOT. > MARCO LIMA I SENT THIS MESSAGE FOR YOU BUT DON'T ANSWER ME. PLEASE, I NEED THE SOLUTION. I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT OTHER VERSION OF LINUX THAT I HAD. THIS VERSION WAS SLACKWARE AND IT WAS VERY EASY TO INSTALL. I WAIT FOR ANSWER. MARCO LIMA From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 12:09:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA23015 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br (cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.2.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA23004 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA13847; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:08:08 -0300 (EST) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199606241908.QAA13847@mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: curious ping To: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:08:08 -0300 (EST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199606241543.MAA00745@unix1.ism.com.br> from "Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica" at "Jun 24, 96 12:43:45 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL14 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk #define quoting(Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) // Hi: // // I have two machines attached to a hub. Both using SMC Etherpower. If I // ping from machine "A" to machine "B", with the smallest packet size // (64bytes), I got lots // of lost packets (about 30-40%). But if I raise it just a little bit // (108bytes) no // packet lost! Why this happens ? You didn't talk about the traffic load. One of the limiting factors of network processing is packet processing, meaning that bursts of small packets demand more CPU to process than large packets. This could be your problem, if your receiving CPU cannot deal with the suplied small packets traffic. // Thanks a lot! // Helio. Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 ( Job ) jonny@cisi.coppe.ufrj.br Network Manager UFRJ/COPPE/CISI Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 12:23:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA24053 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ampere.excelsus.com ([207.2.82.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA24042 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:22:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from weldon@localhost) by ampere.excelsus.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA16985; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 15:20:53 -0400 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 15:20:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Weldon S Godfrey 3 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RPC: Program/version mismatch, retrying Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When exporting an directory from a FreeBSD 2.2.snap to a Sun 3/470 running SunOS 4.0.3, it works fine. The Sun mounts the directory ok When exporting the same directory to a Sun 4/20 running SunOS 4.1 (yea, 4.1, not 4.1.something)...as the sun tries to mount, I get RPC: Program/version mismatch, retrying...and it just hangs. I have 2 of thes stations, they both do it. Is this error refering to RPC or NFS? The version on nfsd I am running claims to work with v3 and v4 of NFS. I figured I would have a problem with the older sun (sun 3) not the sun4's Weldon From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 12:42:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA25136 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mistery.mcafee.com (jimd@mistery.mcafee.com [192.187.128.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA25131 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:42:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jimd@localhost) by mistery.mcafee.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA15177; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:53:27 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <201006241953.MAA15177@mistery.mcafee.com> Subject: Re: ppp with dynamic password To: mark@seeware.DIALix.oz.au (Mark Hannon) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 110 12:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Mark Hannon" at Jun 24, 96 12:13:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi, > > I have just started using a new dialin system to my employer. The > login script consists of a dynamically allocated password (the password > is set by a little credit-card device which is synced to a master clock > and generates the password). > > Anybody with any ideas how to set this up with ppp?? There is an obscure option with (some implementations of???) the shadow password suite -- where you specify an alternative authentication method in the master password file (/etc/master.passwd) like so: ppp:@/usr/local/bin/secureID:1:31::0:0:Point-to-Point Protocol:/export/home: jimd:$1$RxhpZpOH.:1000:1000::0:0:James T. Dennis:/home/jimd:/usr/local/bin/bash Note that the ppp entry above has a password that starts with an "@" ("at" sign) and then specificies a hypothetical program which will prompt for, read and validate a password. I seem to recall that I experimented with this briefly and confirmed that it worked under Solaris, Linux and FreeBSD. The program specified should return a 0 exit value for a valid response and a non-zero to signify non-authorization (I tested with a shell script -- that would be *horribly* insecure in practice). Hope that helps. Jim Dennis, former System Administrator, McAfee Associates From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 12:43:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA25200 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25187 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA17084 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:42:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:42:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamil Weatherbee To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problems in running PCNFS (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Technical Support Walnut Creek CDROM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 04:53:56 -0400 (EDT) From: 72567.310@compuserve.com To: support@cdrom.com Subject: Problems in running PCNFS I'm using several PCs running XFS as client. My /etc/exports has no error as long as the machine reports. /etc/exports ------------------ /usr/pcshare /var/spool/pcnfs However, I can't mount the /usr/pcshare without making the owner to the same group as my login user. In addition, I was unable to mount the lp to my lpt1 inthe PC. The response is always Permission Denied. I have no problem in connecting to a Linux box with the same setup. There is only one entry in my /etc/printcap, i.e. a plain lp. Thanks in advance for any hint or procedure for a solution. Sorry for the first mail. I'm using the Jan '96 FreeBSD ver2.1 from you. My machine is a 486DX100 with 16MB RAM and a SCSI CDROM + IDE HDD. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 13:09:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA26678 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 13:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26669 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 13:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA17189 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 13:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 13:08:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamil Weatherbee To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD install problems (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Technical Support Walnut Creek CDROM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 21 Jun 96 08:52:36 CDT From: Cynthia Koobs x7-7713 To: support@cdrom.com Subject: FreeBSD install problems I am resending this message in hopes of eliciting a response so I can continue with the install. Thanks for your help. Cyndy Koobs ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From koobs Wed Jun 19 09:59:41 1996 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 19 Jun 96 09:59:38 CDT From: koobs (Cynthia Koobs x7-7713) To: support@cdrom.com Subject: FreeBSD install problems Content-Length: 1101 I am trying to install FreeBSD on a PC that has had the disk parititioned using FIPS. It is a 520M disk with 201M for DOS and 319 for FreeBSD. I setup a swap space of 32M, a root file system of 20M and the remaining space for usr. The install went smoothly however when I reboot, I get the following error messages (not exactly verbatim, but pretty close): vnode_pager_input: I/O read error vm_fault: pager_input wdoa: hard error reading fsbn 14600 of 14600-14655 wd0 bn 14600; cn 14 tn 7 sn 47 wd0: status 59 error 40 Is it possible that I have a bad sector in the middle of the swap space that is causing this problem? I did a scandisk before partitioning the disk and did find some bad blocks that were marked bad. These marked blocks are probably not seen by FreeBSD. I'm just guessing here after some converstation with some engineers here who have installed FreeBsD on their computers. Thanks for any and all help; it is appreciated. -- Cyndy Koobs GE Medical Systems Ultrasound Engineering koobs@sol.med.ge.com ph:(414)-647-7713 ----- End Included Message ----- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 13:22:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA27942 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 13:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from marceau.fm.intel.com (marceau.fm.intel.com [132.233.247.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27933 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 13:22:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fmmail.fm.intel.com by marceau.fm.intel.com (8.7.4/10.0i); Wed, 19 Jun 1996 23:17:46 GMT Received: (from ccmgate@localhost) by fmmail.fm.intel.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id QAA21476 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:18:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ccm.fm.intel.com (ccmgate 3.2 #2) Wed, 19 Jun 96 16:18:37 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Jun 96 16:09:00 PDT From: Mannan Mohammed Message-ID: To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Documentation for Device Drivers Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I need to write a device driver for a (PCI) network (ethernet) adapter for FreeBSD. First of all, is there any documentation that will help me get started. Is there any book that I can buy that covers device drivers for FreeBSD (or UNIX). Secondly, is there any place I can get sample source code for a device driver for FreeBSD. Please send the reply to Mannan_Mohammed@ccm.ch.intel.com Thanks. Mannan. PS: BTW, I just ordered the CD for FreeBSD. If the CD contains any documentation, please let me know. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 13:25:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA28264 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 13:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mccoy.cs.twsu.edu (mccoy.cs.twsu.edu [156.26.10.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA28253 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 13:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mccoy.cs.twsu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15539; Mon, 24 Jun 96 14:56:44 CDT Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:56:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "sestaats@cs.twsu.edu" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD and SCO Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi. Our company is currently using SCO 3.2.4, and we run an Informix database and SQL. My question is will our Informix software port to and run under the FreeBSD OS? The SCO OS is very inflexible and has absolutely no development tools to speak of (not even a c compiler!) Please let me know at you earliest convenience. Thanks, Sean Staats From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 13:38:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA29912 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 13:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA29897 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 13:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uYIOi-0001BVC; Mon, 24 Jun 96 16:38 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: Compaq LTE Light 4/33C and FreeBSD? Date: 24 Jun 1996 16:38:09 -0400 Lines: 9 Message-ID: <4qmubh$pij@twwells.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've got this laptop. And a yen to have a portable Unix machine. :-) However, I'd like to hear if anyone has run FreeBSD on a Compaq LTE Light 4/33C before I try it. If so, how did it go? Does FreeBSD "Do The Right Thing" with the power management hardware? Any caveats I should hear? Also, while I'm at it, my wife's favorite computer recreation is this silly Solitaire game that runs under Windoze. Is there an equivalent (presumably running under X)? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 14:16:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA03600 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA03589 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA00595; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:11:17 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606242111.OAA00595@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD install problems (fwd) To: support@cdrom.com (Jamil Weatherbee) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:11:17 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Jamil Weatherbee" at Jun 24, 96 01:08:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am trying to install FreeBSD on a PC that has had the disk parititioned > using FIPS. It is a 520M disk with 201M for DOS and 319 for FreeBSD. I > setup a swap space of 32M, a root file system of 20M and the remaining > space for usr. If this is the actual order, place the root FS before the swap (slice a, then slice b). Most likely, this is the "zero bias swap error" to keep the swap from dumping on the disklabel. > Is it possible that I have a bad sector in the middle of the swap space > that is causing this problem? I did a scandisk before partitioning the > disk and did find some bad blocks that were marked bad. These marked > blocks are probably not seen by FreeBSD. I'm just guessing here after > some converstation with some engineers here who have installed FreeBsD > on their computers. It's possible, but more likely, the driver is complaining. From the address range, it's at the front of the swap area, which makes it inherently suspicious. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 14:17:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA03691 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:17:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA03683 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA00609; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:12:10 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606242112.OAA00609@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Compaq LTE Light 4/33C and FreeBSD? To: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:12:10 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4qmubh$pij@twwells.com> from "T. William Wells" at Jun 24, 96 04:38:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Also, while I'm at it, my wife's favorite computer recreation is > this silly Solitaire game that runs under Windoze. Is there an > equivalent (presumably running under X)? There are severl, though none which reward you with "bouncy cards". Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 15:03:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA09713 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 15:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA09500 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 15:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id WAA26843; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 22:11:40 +0100 (BST) To: Wayne Hernandez cc: "Joseph D. Orthoefer" , questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: sup servers In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:16:20 PDT." Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 22:11:40 +0100 Message-ID: <26841.835650700@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Wayne Hernandez wrote in message ID : > sup.freebsd.org freefall.FreeBSD.org (204.216.27.4) > sup2.freebsd.org insecurity.shockwave.com (192.5.5.16) This one (sup2) is unavailable due to the person hosting it moving jobs. It may be some time until it's back (i.e. weeks, not days). Sorry. > sup3.freebsd.org lucus.fsl.orst.edu (128.193.112.132) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 15:16:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA12961 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 15:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (flaq@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12947 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 15:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA13448 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 17:15:54 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 17:15:53 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I want PPP to stay up all the time (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Below is a little problem we are trying to figure out. I am assuming User PPP is where a user actually types ppp at a prompt and kernel ppp is started by other than a user. The problem I have is that with "kernel" ppp, it uses almost 50% of the CPU. Is this normal and is there a solution? Mike ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:35:41 -0400 From: Mark Plummer To: "Mike K." Cc: Mark Plummer Subject: Re: I want PPP to stay up all the time > > The script works great! The only question I have now is below is a > capture of top. ppp is running at the top using a lot of CPU (or so it > seems). Is this anything to be concerned about? > > ... > > Mike > i'm getting that too. it's not really an issue here since we use our machine running ppp just as a firewall, but it's something i've always wondered about. let me know if you find anything. enjoy... markus -- Mark Plummer, markus@clark.net, +1 410 796 1272 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 15:43:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA20113 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 15:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arnie.systems.sa.gov.au (arnie.systems.sa.gov.au [143.216.242.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20108 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 15:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from state.systems.sa.gov.au by arnie.systems.sa.gov.au (PMDF V4.3-7 #13538) id <01I6BHMTUYOW00GP36@arnie.systems.sa.gov.au>; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:13:17 +1030 Received: from jolt (jolt.systems.sa.gov.au) by state.systems.sa.gov.au (PMDF V5.0-4 #13538) id <01I6BHMO5VVK005GOS@state.systems.sa.gov.au> for questions@freefall.freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:13:09 +0930 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:15:06 -1000 From: Garth T Kidd Subject: int link(const int inode, const char *name2) X-Sender: garth@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Message-id: <1.5.4.32.19960625181506.00384450@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [This is on a BSDI machine, but BSDI and FreeBSD are at least half-brothers, so here goes...] I've accidentally unlinked a file (or rather, had it unlinked for me by gzip -- still my mistake) from the directory it was in. The file is, however, still open. If I can get the inode (downloading lsof now), is it possible to link it to the directory again? -- garth@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au | Garth Kidd +61-8-207-7740 (voice) | Network Services +61-8-207-7860 (fax) | EDS | Adelaide, AUSTRALIA From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 15:51:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA20986 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 15:51:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Mail.IDT.NET (root@mail.idt.net [198.4.75.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20978 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 15:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ipbu91.vivanet.com (ipbu91.vivanet.com [206.25.245.91]) by Mail.IDT.NET (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA18034 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:50:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31CF44C4.5AFB@mail.idt.net> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:45:40 -0700 From: Dave Hummel X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FTP install X-URL: http://www.ca.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Please help!: I've had no touble prepping my system for FreeBSD, but I don't know how to use the ppp software to download. When I ask for that option, it send me to the ppp software....I've been instructed to type 'term' and it says I'm in terminal mode and gives me a ppp> prompt. What dialup commands can I use to activate my modem? AT commamds?( I'm UNIX illiterate), Dave From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 15:53:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA21245 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 15:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cais.cais.com (cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA21223 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 15:52:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 204.157.31.49 (babel.cais.com [204.157.31.49]) by cais.cais.com (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA14763; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:52:58 -0400 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:52:58 -0400 Message-Id: <199606242252.SAA14763@cais.cais.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: babel@cais.cais.com Subject: Finding ports of Mosaic To: questions@FreeBSD.org Cc: babel@cais.com X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.14 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Have most of FreeBSD installed and working. Mosaic-src-2.6.tar.gz is not at the URL listed in the ports collection? How and where can I get Mosiac or netscape. I have tried to port both browsers but none are available at there respective ftp sites. I have downloaded Mosaic source code tar balls but in .Z format not .gz won't work with cdrom ports setup. How do I alter Makefile to accept already downloaded distributions? Which will work with FreeBSD? Thanks in advance Bob Abel babel@cais.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 16:05:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA22228 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA22222 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uYKg5-00017rC; Mon, 24 Jun 96 19:04 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: Re: int link(const int inode, const char *name2) Date: 24 Jun 1996 19:04:14 -0400 Lines: 12 Message-ID: <4qn6te$rmi@twwells.com> References: <1.5.4.32.19960625181506.00384450@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <1.5.4.32.19960625181506.00384450@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au>, Garth T Kidd wrote: : I've accidentally unlinked a file (or rather, had it unlinked for me by gzip : -- still my mistake) from the directory it was in. The file is, however, : still open. If I can get the inode (downloading lsof now), is it possible : to link it to the directory again? When you unlink a file, the inode doesn't get modified, except to update the link count (and inode modification time). If you crash your machine by hitting reset, the inode will still be on disk but with a zero reference count. In _theory_ fsck will detect this and put the file in lost+found. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 16:11:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA22439 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA22434 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA02616; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:06:24 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606242306.QAA02616@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: int link(const int inode, const char *name2) To: garth@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au (Garth T Kidd) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:06:23 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19960625181506.00384450@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au> from "Garth T Kidd" at Jun 25, 96 08:15:06 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > [This is on a BSDI machine, but BSDI and FreeBSD are at least half-brothers, > so here goes...] > > I've accidentally unlinked a file (or rather, had it unlinked for me by gzip > -- still my mistake) from the directory it was in. The file is, however, > still open. If I can get the inode (downloading lsof now), is it possible > to link it to the directory again? Ghah. You could manually mung the directory. If you were root and manually munged the directory it used to live in by using a binary editor on the block device (assuming it wasn't truncated and nothing was created in its slot), then all you'd have to do is adjust the end pointer: Directory block containing file: Before the delete ,-------------------------. | v ,--------------------------.,------------------------.,--------- | Good file || Deleted file || ... `--------------------------'`------------------------'`--------- | ^ `---------------------------------------------------' After the delete see /sys/ufs/ufs/dir.h, field is reclen. It is easy to damage an FS this way. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 16:14:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA22606 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wedge.its.utas.edu.au (cp_nairn@wedge.its.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA22600 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by wedge.its.utas.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.6) id JAA02700; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:14:03 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:14:01 +1000 (EST) From: Carey Nairn X-Sender: cp_nairn@wedge.its.utas.edu.au To: "Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica" cc: Nick Liu , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Networking my PCs In-Reply-To: <199606241345.KAA13914@unix1.ism.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica wrote: > Hi: > > Try the SAMBA package. It comes in the ports collection, on the CD. It > will permit you to share printers and disks between your FBSD box and the Win95 > box. Samba is very good and works nicely. > > regards, > Helio. > > >I've posted the question to comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc already but no one > >responded to me, and I do need this answered. So, pleeeeease HELP? > > > >I have a FBSD box (2.1) and another PC that runs Win95. I have only one > >modem and I have read it somewhere that I can use FBSD as a gateway between > >computers. > >Both PCs have NE2000 compatible cards and the FBSD box is able to detect the > >card. I would greatly apprecaite any help from you. > > > >LIVE LONG AND PROSPER. > > > > > > Samba is great for file and printer sharing but if you also want to connect both machines to an ISP via a single modem I have found for web browsing, news etc. a nice solution is to run a proxy web server on the FreeBSD machine and use a client such as Netscape to do the browsing on the Windows machine. I have been using the harvest cached for this purpose with no problems, but I believe that the squid cached has replaced this now. For telnet you might need to run something like socks on the BSD box and a socks telnet client. cheers, Carey ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Networks and Communications ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 16:25:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA23139 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA23126 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA01718; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 21:14:31 GMT Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 21:14:31 GMT Message-Id: <199606242114.VAA01718@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: Mannan_Mohammed@ccm.ch.intel.com CC: questions@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: (message from Mannan Mohammed on Wed, 19 Jun 96 16:09:00 PDT) Subject: Re: Documentation for Device Drivers Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I need to write a device driver for a (PCI) network (ethernet) adapter > for FreeBSD. First of all, is there any documentation that will help > me get started. Is there any book that I can buy that covers device > drivers for FreeBSD (or UNIX). You'll find a guide to writing FreeBSD device drivers, which includes a bibliography, at http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ > Secondly, is there any place I can > get sample source code for a device driver for FreeBSD. The entire FreeBSD source code, including all the device drivers, is publically available. > PS: BTW, I just ordered the CD for FreeBSD. If the CD contains > any documentation, please let me know. Look for the files ending in .c ;-) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 16:26:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA23196 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix1.ism.com.br (root@unix1.ism.com.br [200.255.211.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23145 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clpc1.compuland.com.br ([200.255.96.22]) by unix1.ism.com.br (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id UAA24762; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 20:23:33 -0300 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 20:23:33 -0300 Message-Id: <199606242323.UAA24762@unix1.ism.com.br> X-Sender: compland@ism.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis From: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Subject: Re: curious ping Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >#define quoting(Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) >// Hi: >// >// I have two machines attached to a hub. Both using SMC Etherpower. If I >// ping from machine "A" to machine "B", with the smallest packet size >// (64bytes), I got lots >// of lost packets (about 30-40%). But if I raise it just a little bit >// (108bytes) no >// packet lost! Why this happens ? > > You didn't talk about the traffic load. One of the limiting factors >of network processing is packet processing, meaning that bursts of small >packets demand more CPU to process than large packets. This could be >your problem, if your receiving CPU cannot deal with the suplied small >packets traffic. It happens with or without traffic! Helio. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 16:34:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA23585 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:34:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA23579 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp61.bcpl.lib.md.us by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA14780; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 19:34:48 +0500 Received: by ppp61.bcpl.lib.md.us with Microsoft Mail id <01BB6204.435BC6E0@ppp61.bcpl.lib.md.us>; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 19:35:13 -0400 Message-Id: <01BB6204.435BC6E0@ppp61.bcpl.lib.md.us> From: Anil John To: "'Greg Lehey'" Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: RE: Compiling kernel for ATAPI CD-ROM error - fatal signal 11- what is it? Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 19:35:11 -0400 Encoding: 42 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greg Lehey[SMTP:grog@lemis.de] wrote: >Anil John writes: >> My compile stopped with the following error: >> -------- >> June 22 17:31:56 hammer /kernel: pid 453: cc1: uid 0: exited on signal 11 >> cc: Interal compiler error: program as got fatal signal 11 >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop. > >strncmp.c. Check which file causes the compiler to fail, then try >again. If it fails in the same place, there's probably something >wrong with the source (so check it). If it fails at random places, >there's probably something wrong with your hardware. > Greg, It is failing at random places, so it must be hardware. Any suggestions for what could be the most likely places to look? Another question - I have my CD ROM as master on my secondary IDE controller. It is not detected by atapi.flp when you boot from the floppy, BUT if I put it as slave on my primary controller (with my hard disk) it is detected. When I installed my system, I installed the kernel developer system. It did not install X. I would like X. Since I cannot get my kernel to recompile until I fix this problem, can I boot up using the floppy, then do a Custom installation from the main installation menu and just install the X-Server software and have all of my other previously installed software remain the same? Also is there something like a DOS command prompt I can go to when I boot up with the floppy? The reason being I would like to come up in command prompt, go to the live file system and copy the kernel.atapi binary. As you can probably tell, I am relatively new to UNIX, so please bear with me :) Anil From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 16:39:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA23736 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wedge.its.utas.edu.au (cp_nairn@wedge.its.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23727 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by wedge.its.utas.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.6) id JAA02715; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:35:29 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:35:28 +1000 (EST) From: Carey Nairn X-Sender: cp_nairn@wedge.its.utas.edu.au To: Terry Lambert cc: "T. William Wells" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Compaq LTE Light 4/33C and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199606242112.OAA00609@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Also, while I'm at it, my wife's favorite computer recreation is > > this silly Solitaire game that runs under Windoze. Is there an > > equivalent (presumably running under X)? > > There are severl, though none which reward you with "bouncy cards". > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. > The standard windows solitaire runs flawlessly on my FreeBSD box using wine... its just a pity that other things like Word don't. cheers, Carey ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Networks and Communications ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 16:40:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA23821 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.cts.com (mailhub.cts.com [192.188.72.25]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA23816 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from burnout.cts.com(really [205.163.23.25]) by mailhub.cts.com via smail with smtp id for ; Mon, 24 Jun 96 16:40:06 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.1.92 1996-Mar-19 #3 built 1996-Apr-21) Received: from kirki.cts.com (kirki.cts.com [204.94.78.69]) by burnout.cts.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA12559 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:40:04 -0700 Message-ID: <31CF263D.44EA@cts.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:35:25 -0700 From: Tony Sterrett Organization: SEIDCON X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: STREAMS X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello. I know this question is in bad taste but, is their anybody working on SYS V like STREAMS in the BSD world. I'm a BSD programmer, however I like the STREAMS model. Please reply to sterrett@cts.com Cheers, Tony From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 16:47:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA24202 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA24194 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA02712; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:43:00 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606242343.QAA02712@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: int link(const int inode, const char *name2) To: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:42:59 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4qn6te$rmi@twwells.com> from "T. William Wells" at Jun 24, 96 07:04:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > : I've accidentally unlinked a file (or rather, had it unlinked for me by gzip > : -- still my mistake) from the directory it was in. The file is, however, > : still open. If I can get the inode (downloading lsof now), is it possible > : to link it to the directory again? > > When you unlink a file, the inode doesn't get modified, except to > update the link count (and inode modification time). If you crash > your machine by hitting reset, the inode will still be on disk but > with a zero reference count. In _theory_ fsck will detect this > and put the file in lost+found. If you *manually* fsck. The default is to *clear* the inode. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 16:54:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA24623 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netoutfit.com (netoutfit.netoutfit.com [198.199.206.62]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA24601; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:54:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [204.177.2.65] (host65.net2.directnet.com) by netoutfit.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07398; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:51:02 -0700 Message-Id: <9606242351.AA07398@netoutfit.com> Subject: repartition Date: Mon, 24 Jun 96 16:57:10 -0000 X-Sender: lupa@netoutfit.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: threeLoopnine Design To: "Shyh-Donq Yu" , "Doug White" , "Support" , "John A. Booth" , "David Greenman" , "Gary Palmer" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a hard drive that I was previously using for both DOS and FreeBSD. I would now like to remove the DOS partition, or convert it to a FreeBSD Partition without destroying the information on the preexisting FreeBSD partition. I would then like to use that new partition as my /usr partition. Can any of this be done or am I just crazy. Any help would very apreciated. Thank you Derek Ruth From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 17:31:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA26642 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 17:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web.azstarnet.com (root@azstarnet.com [169.197.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA26637 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 17:31:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usr10ip35.azstarnet.com (usr10ip35.azstarnet.com [169.197.11.35]) by web.azstarnet.com (8.7.5/8.6.10) with SMTP id RAA04476 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 17:29:58 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <31CF3362.29C7@azstarnet.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 17:31:30 -0700 From: Bill Shoemaker Reply-To: bills@azstarnet.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3 (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: opening a file Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk how do you open a dos file from the root directory. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 18:21:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA01089 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arnie.systems.sa.gov.au (arnie.systems.sa.gov.au [143.216.242.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA01050 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:21:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from state.systems.sa.gov.au by arnie.systems.sa.gov.au (PMDF V4.3-7 #13538) id <01I6BN5AOPN400H3U5@arnie.systems.sa.gov.au>; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:50:56 +1030 Received: from jolt (jolt.systems.sa.gov.au) by state.systems.sa.gov.au (PMDF V5.0-4 #13538) id <01I6BN53WHO0005HVB@state.systems.sa.gov.au> for questions@freefall.freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:50:47 +0930 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:52:46 -1000 From: Garth T Kidd Subject: Re: int link(const int inode, const char *name2) X-Sender: garth@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Message-id: <1.5.4.32.19960625205246.007b3a5c@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [deliberately crashing machine, editing binary devices...] Yipe! I think I'll just put up with the file being missing... -- garth@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au | Garth Kidd +61-8-207-7740 (voice) | Network Services +61-8-207-7860 (fax) | EDS | Adelaide, AUSTRALIA From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 18:49:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA06116 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pom-vms2.pomona.edu (pom-vms2.pomona.edu [134.173.64.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA06104 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V5.0-7 #12356) id <01I6APHV51808WWNKU@POMONA.EDU> for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:49:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:49:24 -0800 (PST) From: JOHN Subject: Mouse Systems Optical mouse - anyone? To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01I6APHV54ZM8WWNKU@POMONA.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"questions@freebsd.org" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone had success in getting 3 button operation to work with Mouse Systems Optical Mouse (formerly PC MOUSE 3)? With FreeBSD, it either does not work at all, or only in two button mode (there is a switch on the button to go between two button and three button modes). Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 18:54:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA06940 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:54:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pom-vms2.pomona.edu (pom-vms2.pomona.edu [134.173.64.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA06931 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V5.0-7 #12356) id <01I6APLP2XCW8WWODO@POMONA.EDU> for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:53:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:53:07 -0800 (PST) From: JOHN Subject: XInside's AccelX - 20% real memory? To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01I6APLP4NIQ8WWODO@POMONA.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"questions@freebsd.org" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Running AccelX on FreeBSD, with 1152x9?? resolution and 65,000+ colors, should the XServer show a 20% memory usage with ps aux? This is on a PC with 48MB of memory, so this is 9MB+ of RAM. Does this sound reasonable? Thanks John From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 19:31:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA12712 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 19:31:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com (tombstone.sunrem.com [206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA12696 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 19:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00183; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 20:16:56 -0600 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 20:16:56 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: JOHN cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XInside's AccelX - 20% real memory? In-Reply-To: <01I6APLP4NIQ8WWODO@POMONA.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, JOHN wrote: > Running AccelX on FreeBSD, with 1152x9?? resolution and 65,000+ colors, > should the XServer show a 20% memory usage with ps aux? This is on > a PC with 48MB of memory, so this is 9MB+ of RAM. Does this sound reasonable? How long has it been running? I find my XFree86 server around 9-10 MB often, after 10-20 days of consecutive execution (i.e. not shutdowns/restarts). I'm assuming Xaccell will slowly bloat as well, as I havn't see an X server which doesn't. Have you been running any graphics intensive programs? Netscape? GIMP? Ted Turner Netrek? -Brandon Gillespie From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 20:20:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA21387 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 20:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br (root@cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.2.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA21366 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 20:20:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA19340; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 00:18:21 -0300 (EST) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199606250318.AAA19340@mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: int link(const int inode, const char *name2) To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 00:18:21 -0300 (EST) Cc: garth@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au, questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606242306.QAA02616@phaeton.artisoft.com> from Terry Lambert at "Jun 24, 96 04:06:23 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL14 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk #define quoting(Terry Lambert) // > [This is on a BSDI machine, but BSDI and FreeBSD are at least half-brothers, // > so here goes...] // > // > I've accidentally unlinked a file (or rather, had it unlinked for me by gzip // > -- still my mistake) from the directory it was in. The file is, however, // > still open. If I can get the inode (downloading lsof now), is it possible // > to link it to the directory again? // // Ghah. // // You could manually mung the directory. This will create a reference, but does not increment the inode refcount. // If you were root and manually munged the directory it used to live in // by using a binary editor on the block device (assuming it wasn't truncated Can still be done, if you edit the block device to change the file's inode and increment refcount. // and nothing was created in its slot), then all you'd have to do is adjust // the end pointer: ... // It is easy to damage an FS this way. Sure ! This is not child's play. :) Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 ( Job ) jonny@cisi.coppe.ufrj.br Network Manager UFRJ/COPPE/CISI Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 20:26:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA22408 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 20:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br (root@cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.2.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA22344; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 20:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA19362; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 00:25:53 -0300 (EST) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199606250325.AAA19362@mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: STREAMS To: sterrett@cts.com (Tony Sterrett) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 00:25:53 -0300 (EST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31CF263D.44EA@cts.com> from Tony Sterrett at "Jun 24, 96 04:35:25 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL14 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk #define quoting(Tony Sterrett) // Hello. // I know this question is in bad taste but, is their anybody working on SYS V like STREAMS in the BSD world. // I'm a BSD programmer, however I like the STREAMS model. // Please reply to sterrett@cts.com // Cheers, // Tony If someone starts working on this, please tell me. I'd like to help, but I don't have time or experience enough to manage such a project. I took a look at linux streams implementation and that is completely out-performing. We could do really better if there was critical mass enough to start this project. BTW: Let's not talk about performance or ideology. Such e-mails will be ignored. I'm not proposing the use of STREAMS as the *BSD core network framework, but just that it could be available for others designers. Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 ( Job ) jonny@cisi.coppe.ufrj.br Network Manager UFRJ/COPPE/CISI Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 20:33:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA24027 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 20:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.io.org (post.io.org [198.133.36.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA23981 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 20:33:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zap.io.org (taob@zap.io.org [198.133.36.81]) by post.io.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA16971; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 23:30:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 23:31:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Tao To: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS-L cc: Stefan Esser Subject: HP Vectra VL 5/166 PCI probe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there anything I should watch out for when installing FreeBSD on an HP Vectra VL 5/166? We've been contracted to provide and maintain Internet and UNIX server access for a small university in the U.S. The folks down there went ahead and blew a wad of cash on five HP P166 servers with 4GB of disk each, some ISA Buslogic SCSI controllers I've never heard of, 128MB of EDO, HP 100VG Ethernet NIC's and an HP 100VG switch. I love it when a customer tries to "help out" like this. :-( Griping aside, I know for sure that the 100VG technology isn't support by FreeBSD right now, but I've convinced them to get SMC EtherPower NIC's instead, and replace the Buslogics with Adaptec 2940's. A search of the mailing list archives reveals a problem with the PCI probe code in 2.2-960323-SNAP. Have there been any changes to this part of the code since then? I will likely be installing the 2.2-960612 snapshot. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org, taob@ican.net) Systems and Network Administrator, Internet Canada Corp. "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 20:53:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA28583 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 20:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA28431 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 20:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id EAA28556 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 04:51:39 +0100 (BST) Prev-Resent: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 04:51:37 +0100 Prev-Resent: "questions@freebsd.org " Received: from punt.demon.co.uk (punt.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.73]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with SMTP id EAA28538 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 04:49:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for gary@palmer.demon.co.uk id 835674547:20867:0; Tue, 25 Jun 96 04:49:07 BST Received: from ceres.brunel.ac.uk ([134.83.176.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa20643; 25 Jun 96 4:48 +0100 Received: from freefall.freebsd.org by ceres.brunel.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 25 Jun 1996 04:48:06 +0100 Received: from ccslinux.dlsu.edu.ph (gavin@linux1.dlsu.edu.ph [165.220.8.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA27366 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 20:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gavin@localhost) by ccslinux.dlsu.edu.ph (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA05424; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:51:54 +0800 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:51:53 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: Gavin Chan Lim To: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: NFS Setup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 04:51:38 +0100 Resent-Message-ID: <28554.835674698@palmer.demon.co.uk> Resent-From: Gary Palmer Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm having some trouble setting up NFS in FreeBSD 2.1. Let's say my server's name is "promig1", and my client is named "promig2" Here's what promig1's exports file looks like: /usr -alldirs humprey /migrate humprey and here's promig2's fstab file: /dev/wd0s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/wd0a / ufs rw 1 1 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 promig1:/usr /usr2 nfs rw 0 0 promig1:/migrate /migrate nfs rw 0 0 I hope you can take the time to answer the following questions: 1. Is there any proper booting sequence for the clients and the server when using NFS? My client seems to hang almost every time I boot up. 2. Promig1's /migrate directory contains subdirectories, how come these subdirectories can also be seen at promig2 even though I did not specify the -alldirs option? And if I do so, /migrate doesn't even mount! (WEIRD...?!?) 3. How should I manage access permissions of the involved directories in the server and the client? Should they have identical access permissions? 4. I have the same users on both computers, but they have different uid's and gid's. How do I manage this? Do I need to use NIS/yp? 5. I'm quite confused about the -maproot option. If I include this option, the directory doesn't evven mount. For example, Does "-maproot=ernie:staff" mean that if the client's root accesses NFS files, he'll have "ernie" as a user ID, and "staff" as gid? What about non-root users? 6. I only have read-only access to the NFS files in my client. How do I change this to read-write? I thought the default was already read-write. "-rw" doesn't seem to work. BTW, I've already read the man pages for "exports", "fstab", and "mount." Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 21:09:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA03733 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 21:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA03712 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 21:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uYPQT-0001CYC; Tue, 25 Jun 96 00:08 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: Re: int link(const int inode, const char *name2) Date: 25 Jun 1996 00:08:26 -0400 Lines: 24 Message-ID: <4qnonq$261@twwells.com> References: <1.5.4.32.19960625205246.007b3a5c@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <1.5.4.32.19960625205246.007b3a5c@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au>, Garth T Kidd wrote: : Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT : : [deliberately crashing machine, editing binary devices...] : : Yipe! I think I'll just put up with the file being missing... Actually, crashing your machine is pretty safe, especially if the machine is idled. To make it idle, log off everyone, shut down special systems (e.g., innd is best shut down by using ctlinnd, not a kill), kill all user processes (except the one keeping the file open), kill all system processes other than 0-4 and the gettys, sync, wait a few seconds, and then do the reset. Not that all this is necessary; Unix systems are, by and large, pretty good about dealing with crashes. Someone said that you have to manually fsck, which means rebooting into single-user mode and running fsck; this is possible but I doubt it. The reason given was that the inode would be cleared on a normal fsck. My recollection is that this is true if the file is of size zero; otherwise, it goes into lost+found. On the other hand, it can't hurt to manually fsck.... From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 21:45:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA09947 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 21:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br (root@cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.2.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA09930 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 21:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA19812; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 01:45:43 -0300 (EST) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199606250445.BAA19812@mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: int link(const int inode, const char *name2) To: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 01:45:43 -0300 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4qnonq$261@twwells.com> from "T. William Wells" at "Jun 25, 96 00:08:26 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL14 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk set paranoid mode on #define quoting(T. William Wells) // Actually, crashing your machine is pretty safe, especially if the // machine is idled. To make it idle, log off everyone, shut down // special systems (e.g., innd is best shut down by using ctlinnd, // not a kill), kill all user processes (except the one keeping the // file open), kill all system processes other than 0-4 and the // gettys, sync, wait a few seconds, ... sync;sync;sync // ..., and then do the reset. set paranoid mode off :) Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 ( Job ) jonny@cisi.coppe.ufrj.br Network Manager UFRJ/COPPE/CISI Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 21:50:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA10854 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 21:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA10839 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 21:50:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uYQ4u-0001CkC; Tue, 25 Jun 96 00:50 EDT Message-Id: From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: Re: int link(const int inode, const char *name2) To: jonny@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (Joao Carlos Mendes Luis) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 00:50:15 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606250445.BAA19812@mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br> from "Joao Carlos Mendes Luis" at Jun 25, 96 01:45:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > set paranoid mode on > > #define quoting(T. William Wells) > // Actually, crashing your machine is pretty safe, especially if the > // machine is idled. To make it idle, log off everyone, shut down > // special systems (e.g., innd is best shut down by using ctlinnd, > // not a kill), kill all user processes (except the one keeping the > // file open), kill all system processes other than 0-4 and the > // gettys, sync, wait a few seconds, ... > > sync;sync;sync That bit of ancient history is purely psychological. Since sync isn't synchronous, after the command returns, your buffers aren't all written. However, after you've typed the command twice again, odds are they are. :-) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 22:38:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA16337 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 22:38:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obie.softweyr.com (slc108.xmission.com [204.228.136.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA16332 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 22:38:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wes@localhost) by obie.softweyr.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id XAA05980; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 23:09:46 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 23:09:46 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199606230509.XAA05980@obie.softweyr.com> From: softweyr@xmissino.com To: Nathaniel Wayne McConathy CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: User PPP feature? In-Reply-To: <73145129@toto.iv> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nathaniel Wayne McConathy writes: > Reason for problem: My ISP automatically disconnects 2 hours after > initial logon. Since I dont plan (at the moment at least) to run a > web server, or carry news it is not a problem. However I would > like to be able to access my machine from the outside world pretty > much all of the time. In order to do this I need to setup my > machine so that each time my ISP logs me off it dials up and > reconnects, and then mails me a copy of the netstat at one of the > other machines I have access to. > > My solution: Using the user PPP I configured the ppp.conf so that > it dials and logs onto the remote machine. However in order to > have all of this run automatically I added a line to the default: > section of the ppp.conf that said dial > > My problem: whenever I run the user PPP with this configuration I > recieve a segmentation fault error. > > Could someone confirm, explain, provide a solution to, this error. First, you'll want to use the auto-dial feature of PPP. Remove the dial line, and start PPP with: # ppp -auto instead. Set your timeout to zero; anytime you get disconnected, PPP will attempt to automatically bring you back on-line. You should be able to email yourself the new IP address by using a 'shell' command in your ppp.linkup file; run a shell script that mails the output of ifconfig -a to your known outside address. -- Wes Peters | Softweyr | Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Consulting | softweyr@xmission.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 22:43:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA16754 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 22:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obie.softweyr.com (slc108.xmission.com [204.228.136.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA16715 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 22:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wes@localhost) by obie.softweyr.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id XAA03328; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:27:43 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:27:43 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199606220527.XAA03328@obie.softweyr.com> From: wes@intele.net To: ingham@i-pi.com CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I want PPP to stay up all the time Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Kenneth Ingham asked: > I'm have a full-time (modem) ppp connection to the internet. I'd > like the link to stay up all the time. What happens now with both > kernel and user PPP is that if the link drops (i.e. due to a noisy > phone line), it stays down. Frank Seltzer replied: % Have you tried the -auto switch to user ppp? This is how I maintain a % full-time link to the net. % % ppp -auto % % Works fine. Also set timeout to 0 in the ppp.conf file. This should cause PPP to redial immediately (well, within 30 seconds) if the link drops and someone is routing traffic over it. -- Wes Peters | Softweyr | Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Consulting | softweyr@xmission.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 22:43:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA16800 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 22:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obie.softweyr.com (slc108.xmission.com [204.228.136.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA16786 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 22:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wes@localhost) by obie.softweyr.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id XAA03335; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:35:23 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:35:23 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199606220535.XAA03335@obie.softweyr.com> From: wes@intele.net To: ptroot@uswest.com (Paul T. Root) CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Transferring drive from Solaris 2.4 to FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <125520207@toto.iv> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Paul T. Root writes: > I have a couple of SyQuest EZ135 drives, one on my Sparc Tadpole > (Solaris 2.4) at work and one on my 486 FreeBSD box at home. The > drive works great on both boxes, and the obvious next step is to > have both machines use the same disk so I can move 100 Meg at a > time without using the 28.8 line. > > Is this possible? I configured the disk on FreeBSD to not > interoperate with other OSs on the PC. Which I read to mean that It > ignores fdisk stuff and just writes to the whole disk. But that > still wouldn't mount on my Sparc. If you don't make a filesystem on them, and just use the "raw" disk device as input/output for tar, it should work. I use floppies this way frequently. I.e. $ tar cvzf /dev/rfd0 . [drive home] $ tar xvzf /dev/rfd0 [continue working] This skips around incompatibilities in filesystem layout and such by not using an filesystem. -- Wes Peters | Softweyr | Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Consulting | softweyr@xmission.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 24 22:43:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA16820 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 22:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obie.softweyr.com (slc108.xmission.com [204.228.136.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA16799; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 22:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wes@localhost) by obie.softweyr.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id XAA03336; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:38:15 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:38:15 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199606220538.XAA03336@obie.softweyr.com> From: wes@intele.net To: "Gary Palmer" CC: davidg@root.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and the Standard Template Library. In-Reply-To: <2900717@toto.iv> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Palmer writes: > The next release of FreeBSD will be 2.1.5, and is due within a month, > so no, it won't be in that release. It will (more likely be) in 2.2.0, > which is due out at the end of the year (approx). There is a planned > integration of GCC 2.7.2 and an updated libg++ soon into -current. If > you need that functionality and don't mind running -current, that may > be a solution. A recent posting in the gnu.gcc newsgroup leaked the fact that GCC 2.7.3 should soon be released, with the strength-reduce optimization bug fixed "in order to quiten the Linux crowd." Perhaps it would be worthwhile to wait for this fix to integrate GCC 2.7? -- Wes Peters | Softweyr | Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Consulting | softweyr@xmission.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 01:14:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA00441 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 01:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ktnet.ktnet.co.kr (ktnet.ktnet.co.kr [203.248.73.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA00423 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 01:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sphere.ktnet.co.kr (sphere.ktnet.co.kr [203.248.73.96]) by ktnet.ktnet.co.kr (8.6.12h2/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA19907 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:13:12 +0900 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960625081417.007639c0@ktnet.co.kr> X-Sender: geoid@ktnet.co.kr X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:14:17 +0900 To: questions@freebsd.org From: "Jun, Gyu-Chang" Subject: Enable dial-up login on modem Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, World. I have a question on attaching modem for dial-up login. I have followed the procedure decribed in FAQ and read this mailing-list for some times... I think all the things which I am supposed to do is done. I did.. 1) Set modem (AT &C1, etc.), 2) edit /etc/ttys, 3) kill -1 1, 4) check if getty is running, 5) check DCD lamps on my external modem. When I call FreeBSD box, modems talk to each other and DCD lights on. And I think getty send login prompt but the only string emerges from the caller's terminal window is garbage characters... What is wrong? and then What should I do? Thanks in Advance ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Korea Trade Network. Communication Business Team. Tech. Staff ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 01:24:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA01238 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 01:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA01228 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 01:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA11224; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:20:41 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA07065; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:33:10 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199606250833.KAA07065@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: opening a file To: bills@azstarnet.com Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:33:09 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31CF3362.29C7@azstarnet.com> from Bill Shoemaker at "Jun 24, 96 05:31:30 pm" Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > how do you open a dos file from the root directory. > I'm not sure if I understand your question. Do you mean how you can access your DOS partition. If it's that what you mean do mkdir /c (for example, you can use /dos or /mnt instead) mount -t msdos /dev/wd0s1 /c (or replace wd0s1 by the appropriate device/slice your DOS partition resides on). --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 03:07:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA09573 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 03:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix.stylo.it (unix.stylo.it [193.76.98.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA09558 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 03:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from styloserver.stylo.it (trust.stylo.it [194.21.207.253]) by unix.stylo.it (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA00793 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:06:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by styloserver.stylo.it with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.12.736) id <01BB628E.D90F7E90@styloserver.stylo.it>; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:07:14 +0200 Message-ID: From: Angelo Turetta To: "'freebsd-questions'" Subject: What is: Device wd0: name slot allocation failed (E=17) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:07:10 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.12.736 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BB628E.D911EF90" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. Contact your mail administrator for information about upgrading your reader to a version that supports MIME. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB628E.D911EF90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a portion of my server's boot message: Jun 25 02:53:03 unix /kernel: wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa Jun 25 02:53:04 unix /kernel: wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): Jun 25 02:53:04 unix /kernel: wd0: 814MB (1667232 sectors), 1654 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S Jun 25 02:53:04 unix /kernel: wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): Jun 25 02:53:04 unix /kernel: wd1: 696MB (1427328 sectors), 1416 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S Jun 25 02:53:04 unix /kernel: wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa Jun 25 02:53:04 unix /kernel: wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): Jun 25 02:53:04 unix /kernel: wd2: 116MB (237744 sectors), 762 cyls, 8 heads, 39 S/T, 512 B/S Jun 25 02:53:04 unix /kernel: Device wd0: name slot allocation failed (E=17) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jun 25 02:53:04 unix /kernel: Device rwd0: name slot allocation failed (E=17) Jun 25 02:53:04 unix /kernel: wdc1: unit 1 (wd3): Jun 25 02:53:04 unix /kernel: wd3: 202MB (414540 sectors), 987 cyls, 12 heads, 35 S/T, 512 B/S Jun 25 02:53:04 unix /kernel: Device wd1: name slot allocation failed (E=17) Jun 25 02:53:04 unix /kernel: Device rwd1: name slot allocation failed (E=17) What does it mean that 'name slot allocation failed' ? Why does it relate this message to wd0/wd1 and rwd0/rwd1 after probing wd2 and wd3? Thanks Angelo. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Angelo Turetta mailto:aturetta@stylo.it Stylo Multimedia - Bologna - Italy http://www.stylo.it/ ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB628E.D911EF90-- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 03:26:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA11319 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 03:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news2.swip.net (news2.swip.net [192.71.220.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA11305 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 03:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from microfront.se ([192.36.49.23]) by news2.swip.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA13375 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:26:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from volf.microfront.se by mfsvinx.microfront.se id aa02180; Tue, 25 Jun 96 10:56:54 MST To: questions@freebsd.org From: Volf Cramsky Subject: DNS + Sendmail X-Originating-Host: volf Reply-To: volf@microfront.se Message-Id: <1996Jun25.122905+0000@volf> Date: 25 Jun 1996 12:29:04 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: BWMail for Windows Version 3.2 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I do not get it works. I can not even send a letter to a local user by: sendmail -v localuser@mydomain.com Can any one mail me sendmail.cf and some dns files that works as ex.? Thanks _____________________________________________ Volf Cramsky volf@microfront.se Microfront Sjouddev. 8 352 46 Vaxjo Sweden Tel +46 470 101 50 Fax +46 470 211 50 ______________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 03:45:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA13337 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 03:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj.znet.com (sj.znet.com [206.250.203.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA13329 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 03:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neutron.neutron.org (neutron.neutron.org [205.199.113.103]) by sj.znet.com (8.7.5/8.7.5-jjb-sj01) with SMTP id DAA25284 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 03:44:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <310655E5.167EB0E7@neutron.org> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 15:53:09 +0000 From: neutron Organization: neutron.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: pov-ray application? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk dear bsd community i need a graphics technique for simulating light scattered from small particles (eg laser light passing through a flask filled with smoke) i wonder if any one knows if a FreeBSD graphics port exists with this capability. i already have a numerical simulation of an optical particle trap running on my FreeBSD box; i just need a way to render the output. thanks neutron From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 03:45:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA13433 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 03:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA13423 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 03:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uYVcb-000QaYC; Tue, 25 Jun 96 12:45 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA22225; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:36:12 +0200 Message-Id: <199606251036.MAA22225@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: Compiling kernel for ATAPI CD-ROM error - fatal signal 11- what is it? To: ajohn@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (Anil John) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:36:12 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <01BB6204.435BC6E0@ppp61.bcpl.lib.md.us> from "Anil John" at Jun 24, 96 07:35:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anil John writes: > > Greg Lehey[SMTP:grog@lemis.de] wrote: >> Anil John writes: >>> My compile stopped with the following error: >>> -------- >>> June 22 17:31:56 hammer /kernel: pid 453: cc1: uid 0: exited on > signal 11 >>> cc: Interal compiler error: program as got fatal signal 11 >>> *** Error code 1 >>> >>> Stop. >> >> strncmp.c. Check which file causes the compiler to fail, then try >> again. If it fails in the same place, there's probably something >> wrong with the source (so check it). If it fails at random places, >> there's probably something wrong with your hardware. >> > Greg, > > It is failing at random places, so it must be hardware. Any suggestions for > what could be the most likely places to look? Well, I'm not the most experienced in this area, so maybe somebody else will come up with better ideas, but normally a SIGSEGV (signal 11) indicates memory problems. This could be main memory, or it could be cache. Before you go out and buy a new motherboard and memory, check the BIOS setup menus. Probably the best bet is to disable cache, which will make the machine horribly slow, but if you can then build your kernel, you'll know where the problem lies. If your BIOS has memory refresh options, try slowing them down a bit. > Another question - I have my CD ROM as master on my secondary IDE > controller. > It is not detected by atapi.flp when you boot from the floppy, BUT if I put > it as slave on my primary controller (with my hard disk) it is > detected. Yes, I'm afraid this is currently a limitation (described on page 26 of Installing and Running FreeBSD). The real problem is that nobody in the development team likes IDE/ATAPI CD-ROMs, so nothing is being done about it. > When I installed my system, I installed the kernel developer system. It > did not install X. I would like X. > > Since I cannot get my kernel to recompile until I fix this problem, can I > boot up using the floppy, then do a Custom installation from the main > installation menu and just install the X-Server software and have all of my > other previously installed software remain the same? Yes, you could do this. However, if you have serious hardware problems, you really need to look at them first. There's every chance that the bug that bit the compiler will bite X, too, and X is a pig to debug. > Also is there something like a DOS command prompt I can go to when I boot > up with the floppy? The reason being I would like to come up in command > prompt, go to the live file system and copy the kernel.atapi binary. Well, the "something like a DOS command prompt" is the shell prompt, but it looks like you want to be able to access your CD-ROM without being able to access it. That won't work, of course. Is there some pressing reason why you can't leave your ATAPI drive as the slave of the master controller? If you're talking about accessing a DOS partition on the same system, you can do that with the MS-DOS file system. This is another little-loved part of the system, though, and it has been known to cause problems writing to the system, so if you do use it, you should mount it read-only. > As you can probably tell, I am relatively new to UNIX, so please bear with > me :) That's what we're here for. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 04:14:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA15522 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 04:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix.stylo.it (unix.stylo.it [193.76.98.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA15451 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 04:13:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from styloserver.stylo.it (trust.stylo.it [194.21.207.253]) by unix.stylo.it (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA00902 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 13:13:01 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by styloserver.stylo.it with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.12.736) id <01BB6298.29084720@styloserver.stylo.it>; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 13:13:54 +0200 Message-ID: From: Angelo Turetta To: "'freebsd-questions'" Subject: How can I upgrade in-place ? Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 13:13:43 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.12.736 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BB6298.291B59F0" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. Contact your mail administrator for information about upgrading your reader to a version that supports MIME. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB6298.291B59F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What is your preferred way to upgrade a FreeBSD machine ? My server is running 2.2-960501-SNAP, and I'm thinking about switching to 960612-SNAP. Is sysinstall smart enough to handle this ? I've seen an option 'Upgrade a 2.0.5 system': is it appropriate in my case? Any opinion is really appreciated. Angelo ----------------------------------------------------------------- Angelo Turetta mailto:aturetta@stylo.it Stylo Multimedia - Bologna - Italy http://www.stylo.it/ ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB6298.291B59F0-- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 04:49:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA18950 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 04:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsd.tseinc.com ([199.217.203.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA18943 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 04:49:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from JLWEST (ws2.tseinc.com [199.217.203.22]) by bsd.tseinc.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA02910; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 06:50:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199606251150.GAA02910@bsd.tseinc.com> From: "Jay L. West" To: , Subject: Re: FreeBSD and SCO Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 06:40:08 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1080 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk SCO does have a C compiler. It's just that all the development stuff is sold as an add-on. Ask your supplier about an upgrade to the development system. That not withstanding, I agree the OS isn't quite as nice as FBSD. ---------- > From: sestaats@cs.twsu.edu > To: questions@FreeBSD.org > Subject: FreeBSD and SCO > Date: Monday, June 24, 1996 2:56 PM > > Hi. Our company is currently using SCO 3.2.4, and we run an Informix > database and SQL. My question is will our Informix software port to and > run under the FreeBSD OS? The SCO OS is very inflexible and has > absolutely no development tools to speak of (not even a c compiler!) > Please let me know at you earliest convenience. > > Thanks, > Sean Staats > > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 06:27:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA25398 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 06:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mccoy.cs.twsu.edu (mccoy.cs.twsu.edu [156.26.10.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA25360; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 06:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mccoy.cs.twsu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22425; Tue, 25 Jun 96 08:20:51 CDT Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:20:51 -0500 (CDT) From: john goerzen To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Cc: FreeBSD-bugs@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-hackers@freebsd.org, jgoerzen@cs.twsu.edu Subject: Plea for help! And panic & bug reports! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (NOTE...This is not my normal account. As such, it's not subscribed to the list. Please CC your reponse to me here -- jgoerzen@cs.twsu.edu! THANKS!) I am not currently able to access my mail on my normal computer, so please CC your response here. I have recently upgraded from FreeBSD 9605?? to 960612 SNAP. The biggest problem is this: I cannot login! As root, as my normal user account, etc. It just says "Invalid login." After rebooting the first time under the new OS, I did not have to enter a password for root. I did copy passwd and master.passwd from the backup of the etc directory, ran pwd_mkdb or whatever that program is called, etc. No go! I was using DES for passwords, BTW. And yes, I did install the encryption stuff from the sysinstall program. Now then...The reason I upgraded was a kernel panic when I accidentally bumped the eject button on my Sony CDU33A CD-ROM drive. I relized my mistake as soon as I did it, and wanting to prevent and problems, I quickly unmounted it. Then I got a kernel panic. There were no programs attempting to access the CD-ROM at the time. I came across a number of bugs in the installation program. 1) In the upgrade menu, it fails to load the partition program. The label program then gets into a loop of complaining that no partitions were selected. Had to reboot, go to custom, select partitions, then go to upgrade. 2) Selecting COM2 for the PPP caused the PPP to fail on any com port. Had to reboot, delete lock files, select COM1, then in PPP, type "set device /dev/cuaa1" to make it work on COM2. 3) ftp.freebsd.org was busy. Install program complained, retried once, then said the installation failed and forced a reboot. Very annoying! Had to then re-mount drives, select packages, etc. several times. It also failed to delete the lock files before rebooting. 4) Modem dropped connection -- sometimes dirty lines around here. Program should have timed out on the FTP, and asked to re-enable connection. Instead, it locked until a reboot. 5) Prorgam garbled the string holding the location of the custom etc backup directory. I had entered my own value -- after it had backed it up so many times, I didn't want to overwrite anything important. It was garbage on the screen when it reported that it couldn't reconstruct it. I then did a cp -Rp and edited sysconfig and copied ppp.conf back to do basic reconstruction. 6) Failed to put a kernel in / ! I had to boot kernel.GENERIC to make it "work". 7) Failed to preserve password files. Caused lots of problems I have not yet solved! Now I've worked around all the sysinstall problems except the password file problem. I need help on that one desperately! Please, if at all possible, send me an e-mail here -- this account is not subscribed to the list and I can't log in to use my regular one! -- I will be very appreciative! PS...I realize this is prerelease code. I am not complaining about bugs. I am simply reporting them and asking for assistance in working around one of them. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 06:27:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA25481 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 06:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.liunet.edu (falcon.liunet.edu [148.4.5.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA25474 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 06:27:54 -0700 (PDT) From: lray@aurora.liunet.edu Received: from aurora.liunet.edu by falcon.liunet.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA09571; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:26:23 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:26:34 -0400 Message-Id: <96062509263438@aurora.liunet.edu> To: QUESTIONS@freebsd.org Subject: KERBEROS? X-Vms-To: QUESTIONS@FREEBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've got 2 questions I am hoping someone can help me out with. First, I know there is an ftp site where all the questions sent to this list are saved, but I can't where I saw it. Can someone remind me? I know my next question is probably out of place, but I'm hoping someone else out there has had the same problem and is willing to help me out. I'm trying to install the server version of Kerberos5-beta6 on my FreeBSD 2.1.0 machine. The documentation clearly states that a bug in the sed command will not allow the build to complete. I've tried to install the GNU version of sed2.05 but following the installation instructions nets me the following errors: $make gcc -c -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_VPRINTF=1 -DHAVE_BCOPY=1 -DHAVE_MEMCPY=1 -g -I. sed.c sed.c: In function `read_file': sed.c:1237: conflicting types for `sys_errlist' /usr/include/stdio.h:244: previous declaration of `sys_errlist' *** Error code 1 Stop. $ If anyone can help, it would be greatly appreciated. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 06:39:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA26336 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 06:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rk.ios.com (rk.ios.com [198.4.75.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA26313 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 06:39:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rashid@localhost) by rk.ios.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA26336; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:37:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Rashid Karimov Message-Id: <199606251337.JAA26336@rk.ios.com> Subject: Re: Documentation for Device Drivers To: Mannan_Mohammed@ccm.ch.intel.com (Mannan Mohammed) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:37:04 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Mannan Mohammed" at Jun 19, 96 04:09:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi, > > I need to write a device driver for a (PCI) network (ethernet) adapter > for FreeBSD. First of all, is there any documentation that will help > me get started. Is there any book that I can buy that covers device > drivers for FreeBSD (or UNIX). Secondly, is there any place I can > get sample source code for a device driver for FreeBSD. Pay a visit to local Barnes and Noble - they have a plenty of books on the topic. One of them is "Writing Device Drivers in C" by Philip. M Adams. There's also ( pretty rudimentary) book on writing the same things for SCO Unix ( vanilla SVR3). Intall the "sys" source code on your FreeBSD machine and take a dig - this could be best way to go ( FreeBSD comes with FULL source code which is also free :) > > Please send the reply to Mannan_Mohammed@ccm.ch.intel.com > > Thanks. > > Mannan. > PS: BTW, I just ordered the CD for FreeBSD. If the CD contains > any documentation, please let me know. See above :) - the source code will be there > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 06:53:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA27520 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 06:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chistech.com (chistech.com [199.35.253.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA27514 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 06:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brazil.chistech.com by chistech.com (8.7.3/BERK-6.8.10) id IAA05125; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:53:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: by brazil.chistech.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-4.1.2) id IAA01746; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:53:49 -0500 From: haynes@chistech.com (Jeff Haynes) Message-Id: <199606251353.IAA01746@brazil.chistech.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:53:48 -0500 (CDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 2.1 and slattach X-Mailer: Ishmail 1.2.2-960610-sol24 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I can't seem to get slattach to work with 2.1. Anytime I try to execute it, the error message returns somthing about "sl-1". It appears that slattach is not initializing the unit number correctly. The unit script is getting "-1 -1" as its parameters. I think that I've been looking at this for too long and need a fresh perspective. What am I missing? Thanks Please cc to jeff@tenforwd.wiz.com -- Jeff Haynes Chisholm Technologies Inc. haynes@chistech.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 06:59:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA28033 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 06:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from janus.certicom.ca (janus.certicom.ca [204.225.51.194]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA28024 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 06:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from galois.certicom.ca (galois.certicom.ca [204.225.50.1]) by janus with ESMTP (DuhMail/2.0) id JAA24253; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:56:12 -0500 Received: from rchan.certicom.ca (rchan.certicom.ca [204.225.50.27]) by galois.certicom.ca (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA04165 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:01:45 -0400 From: rchan@certicom.ca (R. Chan) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD vs. BSDI? Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 13:58:02 GMT Organization: Certicom Corp. Reply-To: rchan@certicom.ca Message-Id: <31cfefb3.2175336@mailhost> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99d/32.182 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, We are running freebsd from the walnut creek cd. We would like to move to an O/S with more support such as BSDI or something else such as SCO. In any case, does anyone know what the differences are between freebsd and BSDI's BSD/OS? Can we run all the freebsd packages that came with the walnut creek cd on a BSDI system? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 07:08:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA29030 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 07:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ornet.ornet.co.il (ornet.co.il [194.90.140.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA29018 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 07:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.ornet.co.il (alpha.ornet.co.il [194.90.140.7]) by ornet.ornet.co.il (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA04735; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:08:46 +0300 (IDT) Received: from localhost (yugi@localhost) by alpha.ornet.co.il (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA10782; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:07:04 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: alpha.ornet.co.il: yugi owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:06:55 +0300 (IDT) From: Yuri Gindin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Ida Partosh Subject: gateway doesn't forwards packets. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, I'm trying to build the little gateway from FreeBSD 2.1-960606-SNAP I enabled options GATEWAY in kernel config and also sysctl -w net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 and run routed without any flags. the routing tables looks as follows: Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 194.90.140.1 UGSc 0 0 ed0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 4 lo0 194.90.140 link#1 UC 1 0 194.90.140.1 link#1 UHLW 1 3 194.90.140.5 0:0:3b:80:4e:d4 UHLW 1 3804 ed0 271 194.90.140.7 8:0:20:1d:31:48 UHLW 3 1169 ed0 206 194.90.140.14 0:0:3b:80:46:17 UHLW 0 49 ed0 973 194.90.140.30 0:0:c0:f5:7d:8c UHLW 7 266 lo0 194.90.140.67 8:0:2b:e6:f3:6 UHLW 0 32 ed0 1171 194.90.141 link#2 UC 1 0 194.90.141.2 0:0:c0:8c:bc:6b UHLW 0 2 ed1 1196 194.90.141.30 0:0:c0:1a:7e:8c UHLW 0 1 lo0 I can ping from 194.90.141.2 both 194.90.140.30 and 194.90.141.30 (two interfaces of the gateway), but not the hosts on the 194.90.140.0, however, when I ping them it adds arp entry like above: 194.90.140.14 0:0:3b:80:46:17 UHLW 0 49 ed0 973 Am I missing something ? Any help will be greatly appreciated. - --- Yuri Gindin e-mail: yugi@ornet.co.il ORNET Data Communication Technologies Ltd. phone: +972-4-9981314 ext 249 - A Siemens Company - fax: +972-4-9981315 P.O.Box 323, Karmiel 21613, ISRAEL. PGP Public key available via finger yuri@aebeard.technion.ac.il or http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-commands.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBMc/yg3YPt2WVa0D5AQHNdQQAzk8Sv3FsPZL1FJxcdtGKvUSmk8zZVG/e l25oEHfiyTwWMlCVFfHf7mLmHLPMiRMM3JpxhoKWHz32do2vcGXiytdqQdQ7rNFi 4oKKAWiUL8iOhmAW8joeLf3ZNHWXH+IZIX1a2BSzCqTt8t/55IT2Ed41Q2rKoiA+ SAsmVMsYx50= =bIQV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 07:10:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA29188 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 07:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA29135; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 07:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA03529; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:13:22 +0300 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:13:22 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: john goerzen cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, jgoerzen@cs.twsu.edu Subject: Re: Plea for help! And panic & bug reports! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 25 Jun 1996, john goerzen wrote: > (NOTE...This is not my normal account. As such, it's not subscribed to > the list. Please CC your reponse to me here -- jgoerzen@cs.twsu.edu! > THANKS!) > > I am not currently able to access my mail on my normal computer, so > please CC your response here. > > I have recently upgraded from FreeBSD 9605?? to 960612 SNAP. The biggest > problem is this: > > I cannot login! As root, as my normal user account, etc. It just says > "Invalid login." After rebooting the first time under the new OS, I did > not have to enter a password for root. I did copy passwd and > master.passwd from the backup of the etc directory, ran pwd_mkdb or > whatever that program is called, etc. No go! I was using DES for > passwords, BTW. And yes, I did install the encryption stuff from the > sysinstall program. How about booting to single user and trying to fix the password problem there? Sander > > Now then...The reason I upgraded was a kernel panic when I accidentally > bumped the eject button on my Sony CDU33A CD-ROM drive. I relized my > mistake as soon as I did it, and wanting to prevent and problems, I > quickly unmounted it. Then I got a kernel panic. There were no programs > attempting to access the CD-ROM at the time. > > I came across a number of bugs in the installation program. > 1) In the upgrade menu, it fails to load the partition program. The label > program then gets into a loop of complaining that no partitions were > selected. Had to reboot, go to custom, select partitions, then go to > upgrade. > 2) Selecting COM2 for the PPP caused the PPP to fail on any com port. Had > to reboot, delete lock files, select COM1, then in PPP, type > "set device /dev/cuaa1" to make it work on COM2. > 3) ftp.freebsd.org was busy. Install program complained, retried once, then > said the installation failed and forced a reboot. Very annoying! Had > to then re-mount drives, select packages, etc. several times. It also > failed to delete the lock files before rebooting. > 4) Modem dropped connection -- sometimes dirty lines around here. Program > should have timed out on the FTP, and asked to re-enable connection. > Instead, it locked until a reboot. > 5) Prorgam garbled the string holding the location of the custom etc backup > directory. I had entered my own value -- after it had backed it up so > many times, I didn't want to overwrite anything important. It was garbage > on the screen when it reported that it couldn't reconstruct it. I then > did a cp -Rp and edited sysconfig and copied ppp.conf back to do basic > reconstruction. > 6) Failed to put a kernel in / ! I had to boot kernel.GENERIC to make it > "work". > 7) Failed to preserve password files. Caused lots of problems I have not yet > solved! > > Now I've worked around all the sysinstall problems except the password > file problem. I need help on that one desperately! Please, if at all > possible, send me an e-mail here -- this account is not subscribed to the > list and I can't log in to use my regular one! -- I will be very > appreciative! > > PS...I realize this is prerelease code. I am not complaining about > bugs. I am simply reporting them and asking for assistance in working > around one of them. Thanks. > > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 07:12:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA29497 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 07:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teil.soft.net (tata_elxsi.soft.net [164.164.10.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA29476 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 07:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by teil.soft.net via SMTP (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.JF) for questions@FreeBSD.org id AA29876; Tue, 25 Jun 96 19:42:05 -0800 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 19:42:04 -0800 (PST) From: "K.V.S. Sankaram" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Current version wanted Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We are presently working with FREEBSD version 2.1.0. We would like to install the current version. What is the version currently available ? Is it available in a compiled form ? OR have we to download the source code and compile it ? In fact, when we visited the ftp site, we found a directory by the name FREEBSD-CURRENT. It was not containing the binary code. What is this directory for ? What is the version it referring to ? Does 2.1.0 version support PCI bus for ethernet cards ? -------------------------------------------------------------------- | K.V.S. Sankaram | CORPORATE OFFICE : | D&D CENTRE : | | Sr. Engr.(D&D) | | | | Tata Elxsi(India) Ltd. | 123, Richmond Road | Hoody, | | | Bangalore -- 560025 | Whitefield Road | | Tel: 8452016, 8452017, | | Mahadevapura Post | | 8452185 | Tel: | Bangalore -- 560048 | | Extn: 223 | 5563945, 5564872 | | | | 563956, 564835 | Fax: 8452019 | | e-mail: | | | | kasturi@teil.soft.net | Fax: 5583168 | | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 07:22:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA00270 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 07:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oznet16.ozemail.com.au (oznet16.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.109]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA00264 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 07:22:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au (oznet02.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.124]) by oznet16.ozemail.com.au (8.7.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA14485; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 00:21:54 +1000 (EST) Received: from rlyon.mynet.au (slmel7p13.ozemail.com.au [203.22.156.101]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA15816; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 00:22:37 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 00:12:50 +1000 (EST) From: Richard Lyon X-Sender: rlyon@rlyon.mynet.au To: babel@cais.cais.com cc: questions@freebsd.org, babel@cais.com Subject: Re: Finding ports of Mosaic In-Reply-To: <199606242252.SAA14763@cais.cais.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 24 Jun 1996 babel@cais.cais.com wrote: > > > Have most of FreeBSD installed and working. > > Mosaic-src-2.6.tar.gz is not at the URL listed in the ports collection? > How and where can I get Mosiac or netscape. I have tried to port > both browsers but none are available at there respective ftp sites. > > I have downloaded Mosaic source code tar balls but in .Z format not .gz > won't work with cdrom ports setup. How do I alter Makefile to accept > already downloaded distributions? Which will work with FreeBSD? > >From what I can see of the /usr/ports/net/Mosaic/Makefile you are also going to require the jpeg library and a motif library in addition to the mosaic source. My ports collection requires the .Z format (FSB2.1). Look in /usr/ports/net/Mosaic/files/md5. Regards Richard ... From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 07:23:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA00307 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 07:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oznet16.ozemail.com.au (oznet16.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.109]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA00297 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 07:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au (oznet02.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.124]) by oznet16.ozemail.com.au (8.7.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA14515; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 00:22:10 +1000 (EST) Received: from rlyon.mynet.au (slmel7p13.ozemail.com.au [203.22.156.101]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA15896; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 00:22:53 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 00:13:06 +1000 (EST) From: Richard Lyon X-Sender: rlyon@rlyon.mynet.au To: James Raynard cc: hey@tuns.ca, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199606240116.BAA04497@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, James Raynard wrote: > You need to run xdm from /etc/rc.local (not, contrary to some > documentation somewhere, from /etc/ttys). > The XFree readme file recommends /etc/ttys. It works. The first three text consoles are still available. If xdm is started in rc.local, which console does it use? Regards Richard ... From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 07:27:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA00636 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 07:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA00628 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 07:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ping@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA22243 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 07:28:08 -0700 From: Ping Mai Message-Id: <199606251428.HAA22243@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: HELP: mounting root from 2nd partition of scsi disk To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 07:28:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am having problem boot fbsd from the 2nd partition of my first scsi disk. This is an 486 system with an IDE drive. the scsi disk is on an adaptec 2842, scsi id 4. I compiled the kernel with "root on sd0b", did a fbsdboot -rD c:\kernel, it went through and probed the scsi controller and disk, then it complained about not being able to mount root, then it panic. I am using FreeBSD-2.4-stable which I downloaded end of May. Can anyone tell me what I did wrong? can I tell the kernel where the root disk is? how? also, when I compile the kernel without "controller eisa0" and "controller pci0", it does even look for 284x. why? Please help. I've been trying diff comb of kernel config and I've ran out of things to try. Thanks in advance! ping From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 07:52:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA03797 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 07:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA03771 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 07:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id QAA00554; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:51:40 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (QAA12626); Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:51:38 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199606251651.QAA12626@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: your mail To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:51:38 +0000 (GMT) Cc: hey@tuns.ca In-Reply-To: <199606232301.QAA00348@freefall.freebsd.org> from "Yingjun (Ian) He" at Jun 23, 96 08:01:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hello, > > I am running FreeBSD2.1 with X-window. How can I get the graphics login window > instead of the text mode login prompt when I boot up the system or when I > logout? Start xdm from /etc/rc, or from /etc/ttys -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 07:52:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA03850 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 07:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA03811 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 07:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id QAA00551; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:51:39 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (QAA12613); Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:50:34 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199606251650.QAA12613@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: Serial Communication To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:50:34 +0000 (GMT) Cc: chrisl@bbs.justcompute.com In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jun 22, 96 01:33:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > On Sat, 22 Jun 1996, Chris Lavin wrote: > > > NO what I am trying to do is to use my bsd box as a com server. I want to > > have people dial in to the BSD machine then get automatically get telneted > > to a remote site. I don't want them to ever see the login prompt. Can you > > offer any assistance? > > Hm. You'll have to hack getty to call telnet instead of login. I > wouldn't know how to do this. /etc/gettytab, if I remember well, the lo variable > You could make an account like "bbs" with no password that as it's first > action in .profile telnets to the desired location. The next line will > be "exit". It would be cheaper to exec telnet. After it, you don't need an explicit exit, and you can save one process. -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 08:05:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA05555 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apollo.is.co.za (apollo.is.co.za [196.4.160.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA05530 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from admin.is.co.za (admin.is.co.za [196.23.0.9]) by apollo.is.co.za (8.7.5/8.7.5/IShub#2) with ESMTP id RAA01243; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:05:31 +0200 (GMT) Received: (from robin@localhost) by admin.is.co.za (8.7.5/8.7.5/ISsubsidiary#1) id RAA24394; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:05:29 +0200 (GMT) From: Robin Lunn Message-Id: <199606251505.RAA24394@admin.is.co.za> Subject: Re: xdm and an inittab To: rlyon@ozemail.com.au (Richard Lyon) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:05:28 +0200 (GMT) Cc: fqueries@jraynard.demon.co.uk, hey@tuns.ca, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Richard Lyon" at Jun 26, 96 00:13:06 am X-Organisation: The Internet Solution (Pty) Ltd. X-Phone: +27-11-4475566; Fax: +27-11-4475567 Reply-To: robin@is.co.za X-AIDAT-Member: See http://www.aidat.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Richard Lyon wrote: > On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, James Raynard wrote: > > You need to run xdm from /etc/rc.local (not, contrary to some > > documentation somewhere, from /etc/ttys). > > The XFree readme file recommends /etc/ttys. It works. The first three text > consoles are still available. If xdm is started in rc.local, which > console does it use? The first available one. I've tinkered with placing the entry in /etc/ttys and it uses the first available console anyway. The nice thing about using /etc/ttys is that xdm gets respawned if you kill it (pressing Ctrl-C and the like.) This is especially useful for machines in a lab where people do stupid things like that. Any word on an inittab for FreeBSD? This would be more elegant. -- _ __ | Only my ideas here unless I say otherwise... ' ) ) / | (BeamJack@IRC) /--' ____/___o __ | "Nondum amabam, et amare amabam... quaerebam / \_(_) /_) (__/) )_ | quid amarem, amans amare." - St Augustine From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 08:34:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA08894 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dominion (dominion.atsc.allied.com [198.186.47.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA08879 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from marlked (markle.atsc.allied.com) by dominion with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA193396942; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:35:42 -0400 Message-Id: <31D0063B.3CC9@AlliedSignal.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:31:07 -0400 From: David Markle Organization: AlliedSignal X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02Gold (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: News Groups X-Url: http://www2.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Are you aware of any News groups out there for setting and running FreeBSD? Linux has them. Thank you, David Markle AlliedSignal Aerospace David.W.Markle@ATSC.Allied.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 08:41:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA09640 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA09565 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id RAA01437; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:40:52 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (RAA13297); Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:28:16 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199606251728.RAA13297@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: KERBEROS? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:28:16 +0000 (GMT) Cc: lray@aurora.liunet.edu In-Reply-To: <96062509263438@aurora.liunet.edu> from "lray@aurora.liunet.edu" at Jun 25, 96 09:26:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > $make > > gcc -c -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_VPRINTF=1 -DHAVE_BCOPY=1 -DHAVE_MEMCPY=1 -g -I. sed.c > sed.c: In function `read_file': > sed.c:1237: conflicting types for `sys_errlist' > /usr/include/stdio.h:244: previous declaration of `sys_errlist' > *** Error code 1 Edit that file (sed.c), and delete the definition of the sys_errlist variable, in line 1237, as - the error message says - it is in the stdio header file. It's nothing, that a bad programming practice (or a wrong ``configure''). -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 08:52:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA10868 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA10859 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com ([13.231.132.20]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <15150(8)>; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:52:13 PDT Received: from gnu.mc.xerox.com (gnu.sdsp.mc.xerox.com) by gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-TB) id AA03939; Tue, 25 Jun 96 11:51:17 EDT Received: by gnu.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13605; Tue, 25 Jun 96 11:51:16 EDT Message-Id: <9606251551.AA13605@gnu.mc.xerox.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.6 3/24/96 To: Tony Sterrett Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: STREAMS In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:35:25 PDT." <31CF263D.44EA@cts.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:51:15 PDT From: "Marty Leisner" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hello. > I know this question is in bad taste but, is their anybody working on SYS V like STREAMS in the BSD world. > I'm a BSD programmer, however I like the STREAMS model. > Please reply to sterrett@cts.com > Cheers, > Tony Whether we "like" the model is not the key factor, many third party drivers use streams, its desirable on linux and bsd... I may spend some time with it... -- marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com Member of the League for Programming Freedom From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 08:55:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA11086 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11069 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:55:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id RAA01717; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:55:09 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (RAA13558); Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:57:26 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199606251757.RAA13558@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: Plea for help! And panic & bug reports! To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:57:26 +0000 (GMT) Cc: jgoerzen@cs.twsu.edu In-Reply-To: from "john goerzen" at Jun 25, 96 08:20:51 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have recently upgraded from FreeBSD 9605?? to 960612 SNAP. The biggest > problem is this: > > I cannot login! As root, as my normal user account, etc. It just says > "Invalid login." After rebooting the first time under the new OS, I did > not have to enter a password for root. I did copy passwd and > master.passwd from the backup of the etc directory, ran pwd_mkdb or > whatever that program is called, etc. No go! I was using DES for > passwords, BTW. And yes, I did install the encryption stuff from the > sysinstall program. > > Now then...The reason I upgraded was a kernel panic when I accidentally > bumped the eject button on my Sony CDU33A CD-ROM drive. I relized my > mistake as soon as I did it, and wanting to prevent and problems, I > quickly unmounted it. Then I got a kernel panic. There were no programs > attempting to access the CD-ROM at the time. Try to boot to single-user mode with boot -s! And a question: are there any upgrades to the CDU-33A code in this version? (I have this CD too, I made the same error, my machine crashed too. But I'm really miss the cd-lock functionality from that driver. - My son likes to push my machine's buttons - I have to disable the reset, the turbo switch, but with FBSD, I cannot lock the CD - I can do it under DOS. I've the 2.1R.) -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 08:55:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA11093 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:55:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11070 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:55:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id RAA01714; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:55:08 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (RAA13514); Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:52:09 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199606251752.RAA13514@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: your mail To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:52:08 +0000 (GMT) Cc: rlyon@ozemail.com.au In-Reply-To: from "Richard Lyon" at Jun 26, 96 00:13:06 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The XFree readme file recommends /etc/ttys. It works. The first three text > consoles are still available. If xdm is started in rc.local, which > console does it use? The same. If you don't like the character terminals, change the on to off in the correcponding lines in ttys. (and kill -1 1) -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 09:07:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA12349 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fun.inria.fr (fun.inria.fr [138.96.24.57]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12344 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fun.inria.fr (8.7.5/8.6.12) id SAA18744; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 18:07:09 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199606251607.SAA18744@fun.inria.fr> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Problem installing 2.2-960612-SNAP X-url: http://www.inria.fr/rodeo/avega.html Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 18:07:08 +0200 From: Andres Vega Garcia Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm having problems installing 2.2-960612-SNAP on a Intel 80486 with ISA bus, using the NIC 3c509-combo, everything goes fine up to the moment it tries to retrive the distribution on NFS. Several packets are exchanged and then installation freezes. In fact it retrives bin.inf and blocks somewhere while retriving the first chunck bin.aa It seems something goes wrong with the `ep' driver. Has someone elese had this problem, how can I solve that? Thank you in advance. -Andres From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 09:36:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA15124 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA15114 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:36:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA18787; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:36:24 -0700 (PDT) To: john goerzen cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Plea for help! And panic & bug reports! In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:20:51 CDT." Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:36:24 -0700 Message-ID: <18785.835720584@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [ PLEASE do not cross-post to questions, hackers and bugs! I'm getting pretty cheesed-off at people dumping multiple copies of stuff into my mailbox and will be adopting a policy shortly of not even responding to something which is cross-posted to more than 2 major mailing lists (and even 2 is one too many) - if you want a response from me (or anyone who feels the same way as me) in the future then please limit your posts to a SINGLE list! Thanks!!!] This problem is easy to fix. Boot single user with the `-s' flag and then do: mount -u / passwd root reboot From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 09:37:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA15158 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA14914 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id SAA02258; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 18:34:29 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (SAA13773); Tue, 25 Jun 1996 18:21:51 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199606251821.SAA13773@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: ppp with dynamic password To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 18:21:51 +0000 (GMT) Cc: jimd@mcafee.com In-Reply-To: <201006241953.MAA15177@mistery.mcafee.com> from "Jim Dennis" at Jun 25, 96 06:55:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > ppp:@/usr/local/bin/secureID:1:31::0:0:Point-to-Point Protocol:/export/home: > jimd:$1$RxhpZpOH.:1000:1000::0:0:James T. Dennis:/home/jimd:/usr/local/bin/bash > > Note that the ppp entry above has a password that starts with an > "@" ("at" sign) and then specificies a hypothetical program which > will prompt for, read and validate a password. I seem to recall > that I experimented with this briefly and confirmed that it worked > under Solaris, Linux and FreeBSD. The program specified should > return a 0 exit value for a valid response and a non-zero to > signify non-authorization (I tested with a shell script -- that > would be *horribly* insecure in practice). I think, it's not the answer to the question, but I'm interesting it in this ``feature'' of login. I've stock 2.1R, and tried it, but doesn't work. I've modified the master.passwd, but with no success. Any other information about it? (I use the md5 generated passwd, not the DES version) And I'm interested in, how to change the Passwd: prompt, without modifying the login source. That @program would be nice. -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 09:45:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA16000 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flopsy.hobart.TASed.EDU.AU (root@flopsy.hobart.TASed.EDU.AU [147.41.41.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA15989 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by flopsy.hobart.TASed.EDU.AU (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA01879; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 02:44:46 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 02:44:44 +1000 (EST) From: Administrator To: Jerker Klang cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: pppd problems In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960625142639.0069dbc8@mail.ejka.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 25 Jun 1996, Jerker Klang wrote: > 2. i have also seen messeges i cant understand > Jun 22 17:36:31 aragon pppd[811]: input: Unknown protocol (80fd) received! We get this whenever a Win95 lamer, ah user, dials up. We dont get the error from any of the mac users. I guess its just a Win95 thing. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 10:01:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA17645 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA17637 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:01:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA08463 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:01:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamil Weatherbee To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: How does one add an addtional disk to an existing freeBSD installation? (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Technical Support Walnut Creek CDROM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:13:56 -0700 From: Ian Kallen To: doc@freebsd.org, support@cdrom.com Cc: ian@gamespot.com Subject: How does one add an addtional disk to an existing freeBSD installation? There must be a straight forward procedure for fdisk, disklabel and newsfs to add additional disks to an existing system. I just can't seem to figure it out. /etc/disktab does'nt have my existing boot drive there yet freeBSD knows how to use it -- so I'm disinclined to believe those that say I must concoct an /etc/disktab entry for my new disk. Both disks, the existing boot drive and the new one, are Connor 1 gig SCSI drives hanging off of an Adaptec 2940 SCSI controller. Please shed some light on this for me! The freeBSD Docs CD does'nt seem to have this covered, nor is it in the FAQ, nor in the Handbook - nowhere that I've found! Regards, Ian ian@gamespot.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 10:16:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA18908 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:16:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emcity.cs.twsu.edu (emcity.cs.twsu.edu [156.26.10.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA18899 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by emcity.cs.twsu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26983; Tue, 25 Jun 96 12:09:21 CDT Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:09:21 -0500 (CDT) From: john goerzen To: Narvi Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Plea for help! And panic & bug reports! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 25 Jun 1996, Narvi wrote: > > I cannot login! As root, as my normal user account, etc. It just says > > "Invalid login." After rebooting the first time under the new OS, I did > > not have to enter a password for root. I did copy passwd and > > master.passwd from the backup of the etc directory, ran pwd_mkdb or > > whatever that program is called, etc. No go! I was using DES for > > passwords, BTW. And yes, I did install the encryption stuff from the > > sysinstall program. > > How about booting to single user and trying to fix the password problem > there? Well, like I explained, the first time I rebooted, there was no problem logging in as root -- didn't even require a password. So I logged in that way, and attempted to fix the problem. I restored the old passwd and master.passwd files from the backup of /etc and ran pwd_mkdb. But the whole password file seems to not work. After rebooting, not only can root not log in, but NOBODY can! From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 10:19:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA19124 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emcity.cs.twsu.edu (emcity.cs.twsu.edu [156.26.10.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19102 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by emcity.cs.twsu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27105; Tue, 25 Jun 96 12:13:15 CDT Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:13:14 -0500 (CDT) From: john goerzen To: Gabor Zahemszky Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Plea for help! And panic & bug reports! In-Reply-To: <199606251757.RAA13558@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 25 Jun 1996, Gabor Zahemszky wrote: > > I cannot login! As root, as my normal user account, etc. It just says > > "Invalid login." After rebooting the first time under the new OS, I did > > not have to enter a password for root. I did copy passwd and > > master.passwd from the backup of the etc directory, ran pwd_mkdb or > > whatever that program is called, etc. No go! I was using DES for > > passwords, BTW. And yes, I did install the encryption stuff from the > > sysinstall program. > > Try to boot to single-user mode with boot -s! Well, I had it booting OK at beginning. Well, sorta. It didn't require a password for root. I copied the passwd and master.passwd files from the backup of /etc and ran pwd_mkdb. Now, not only can root not login, but NOBODY can login. It seems EVERYONE's passwords are messed up! > And a question: are there any upgrades to the CDU-33A code in this version? I really can't say; I haven't had a chance to look at anything yet -- have to figure out how to login first :-) Wouldn't it be cool, though, if it locked the CD drive and then automatically eject it when you unmount it? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 10:23:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA19508 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA19503 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA19373; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:22:53 -0700 (PDT) To: john goerzen cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Plea for help! And panic & bug reports! In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:15:20 CDT." Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:22:53 -0700 Message-ID: <19371.835723373@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Sorry! Won't happen again! BTW, what would have been the appropriate > list for this one, questions or bugs? As it did include a number of bug > reports. Send one message to questions with your questions. Send another to bugs with your bugs. :-) > Well, that will fix root's password, but what about everyone else's? > *Nobody* can log in right now. The passwd and master.passwd files are > intact. I did run pwd_mkdb. You truly must have not installed DES is my only thought. Do your passwords start with `1$' characters? Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 10:33:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA20029 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20023 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA09152 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:33:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamil Weatherbee To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: major domo or something els (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Technical Support Walnut Creek CDROM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 06:16:12 -0500 (CDT) From: michael dorin To: support@cdrom.com Subject: major domo or something els I have a new FreeBSD question I hope you can answer. I would like to have an automated list server, like majordomo. I can't seam to get it to build. Is there a mailing list problem on BSD already that I could be using? Thanks, -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 10:34:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA20102 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20007 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA01452; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:56:21 GMT Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:56:21 GMT Message-Id: <199606251656.QAA01452@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: sterrett@cts.com CC: questions@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: <31CF263D.44EA@cts.com> (message from Tony Sterrett on Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:35:25 -0700) Subject: Re: STREAMS Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I know this question is in bad taste but, is their anybody > working on SYS V like STREAMS in the BSD world. Well, it's on the wishlist, although at a fairly low priority. I have actually heard of a company doing an in-house FreeBSD emulation of streams, in user-land, so that's certainly possible. (No, I don't know if they're prepared to make it available). A "real" SVR4-style kernel implementation would be a lot of work, though. > I'm a BSD programmer, however I like the STREAMS model. I've never used it myself, but I can see it having some advantages (as well as some disadvantages, which we'll no doubt soon hear about 8-) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 11:01:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA23740 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emcity.cs.twsu.edu (emcity.cs.twsu.edu [156.26.10.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA23726 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:01:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by emcity.cs.twsu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27142; Tue, 25 Jun 96 12:15:20 CDT Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:15:20 -0500 (CDT) From: john goerzen To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Plea for help! And panic & bug reports! In-Reply-To: <18785.835720584@time.cdrom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 25 Jun 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > [ PLEASE do not cross-post to questions, hackers and bugs! I'm getting > pretty cheesed-off at people dumping multiple copies of stuff into > my mailbox and will be adopting a policy shortly of not even responding > to something which is cross-posted to more than 2 major mailing lists > (and even 2 is one too many) - if you want a response from me (or anyone > who feels the same way as me) in the future then please limit your posts > to a SINGLE list! Thanks!!!] Sorry! Won't happen again! BTW, what would have been the appropriate list for this one, questions or bugs? As it did include a number of bug reports. > This problem is easy to fix. Boot single user with the `-s' flag and > then do: > Well, that will fix root's password, but what about everyone else's? *Nobody* can log in right now. The passwd and master.passwd files are intact. I did run pwd_mkdb. Thanks for your help. > mount -u / > passwd root > > > reboot > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 11:31:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA26653 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA26634 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA00258; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:30:40 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606251830.LAA00258@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: int link(const int inode, const char *name2) To: jonny@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (Joao Carlos Mendes Luis) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:30:39 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, garth@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au, questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606250318.AAA19340@mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br> from "Joao Carlos Mendes Luis" at Jun 25, 96 00:18:21 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > // Ghah. > // > // You could manually mung the directory. > > This will create a reference, but does not increment the inode refcount. Yes. You will need to fsck it to recover the link count. As long as the blocks are not reused, you are fine. > // If you were root and manually munged the directory it used to live in > // by using a binary editor on the block device (assuming it wasn't truncated > > Can still be done, if you edit the block device to change the file's > inode and increment refcount. The refcount is not relevent for reques if the freemap is not modified. After you have written the data and synced tha machine, you crash it with the power switch and bring it up in single user for the fsck. > // and nothing was created in its slot), then all you'd have to do is adjust > // the end pointer: > ... > // It is easy to damage an FS this way. > > Sure ! This is not child's play. :) Probably better to write a program that includes the real headers and use it to hack the FS. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 11:35:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA27039 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:35:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA27034 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA00270; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:34:53 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606251834.LAA00270@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: int link(const int inode, const char *name2) To: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:34:53 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4qnonq$261@twwells.com> from "T. William Wells" at Jun 25, 96 00:08:26 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Someone said that you have to manually fsck, which means rebooting > into single-user mode and running fsck; this is possible but I > doubt it. The reason given was that the inode would be cleared on > a normal fsck. My recollection is that this is true if the file is > of size zero; otherwise, it goes into lost+found. On the other > hand, it can't hurt to manually fsck.... A zero reference count file will be assumed to be a temp file and cleared. A file with a non-zero reference an n-1 or fewer real references for a count fo n will go into lost+found on automatic fsck. The danger is in the fsck -y. There is also the danger that the recovery process could not be initiated successfully if the system starupt created files and (potentially) reused blocks from the file (probability depends on file size relative to disk size times number of blocks allocated for temp files of one kind or another on startup on that disk. Better safe than sorry. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 11:39:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA27298 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA27292 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:39:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA00282; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:38:42 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606251838.LAA00282@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: int link(const int inode, const char *name2) To: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:38:42 -0700 (MST) Cc: jonny@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "T. William Wells" at Jun 25, 96 00:50:15 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > sync;sync;sync > > That bit of ancient history is purely psychological. Since sync > isn't synchronous, after the command returns, your buffers aren't > all written. However, after you've typed the command twice again, > odds are they are. :-) Actually, 3 sync's is superstition. Two syncs was a trigger for a cache flush on a number of older UNIX and UNIX-like systems. The second sync would wait, since the kernel knew that there was a sync pending. One could argue on an old (but active) system, you'd type sync until it hung for a bit. Maybe the first one was preterbed by loading the sync code itself? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 11:42:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA27513 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA27508 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA00303; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:42:23 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606251842.LAA00303@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: News Groups To: David.W.Markle@AlliedSignal.com (David Markle) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:42:23 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31D0063B.3CC9@AlliedSignal.com> from "David Markle" at Jun 25, 96 11:31:07 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Are you aware of any News groups out there for > setting and running FreeBSD? Linux has them. comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 11:45:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA27844 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA27839 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA00318; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:44:26 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606251844.LAA00318@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: pppd problems To: root@hobart.tased.edu.au (Administrator) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:44:25 -0700 (MST) Cc: Jerker@ejka.se, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Administrator" at Jun 26, 96 02:44:44 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > 2. i have also seen messeges i cant understand > > Jun 22 17:36:31 aragon pppd[811]: input: Unknown protocol (80fd) received! > > We get this whenever a Win95 lamer, ah user, dials up. We dont get the > error from any of the mac users. I guess its just a Win95 thing. The Windows95 box wants to tunnel NetBIOS with Microsoft private extensions for which Microsoft did not get IETF approval. These are warnings, ignore them. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 11:54:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA28506 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crash.cts.com (root@crash.cts.com [192.188.72.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA28495 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by crash.cts.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #5) id m0uYdFr-0000icC; Tue, 25 Jun 96 11:54 PDT Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:54:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Sterrett To: James Raynard cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: STREAMS In-Reply-To: <199606251656.QAA01452@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 25 Jun 1996, James Raynard wrote: > > I know this question is in bad taste but, is their anybody > > working on SYS V like STREAMS in the BSD world. > > Well, it's on the wishlist, although at a fairly low priority. I have > actually heard of a company doing an in-house FreeBSD emulation of > streams, in user-land, so that's certainly possible. (No, I don't know > if they're prepared to make it available). > A "real" SVR4-style kernel implementation would be a lot of work, > though. Well a task is half done once it is begun. > > > I'm a BSD programmer, however I like the STREAMS model. > > I've never used it myself, but I can see it having some advantages (as > well as some disadvantages, which we'll no doubt soon hear about 8-) > > -- > James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland > james@jraynard.demon.co.uk > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 11:57:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA28765 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crash.cts.com (root@crash.cts.com [192.188.72.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA28741; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by crash.cts.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #5) id m0uYdIV-00016sC; Tue, 25 Jun 96 11:57 PDT Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:57:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Sterrett To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis cc: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: STREAMS In-Reply-To: <199606250325.AAA19362@mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 25 Jun 1996, Joao Carlos Mendes Luis wrote: > #define quoting(Tony Sterrett) > // Hello. > // I know this question is in bad taste but, is their anybody working on SYS V like STREAMS in the BSD world. > // I'm a BSD programmer, however I like the STREAMS model. > // Please reply to sterrett@cts.com > // Cheers, > // Tony > > If someone starts working on this, please tell me. I'd like to help, > but I don't have time or experience enough to manage such a project. > > I took a look at linux streams implementation and that is completely > out-performing. We could do really better if there was critical mass > enough to start this project. I agree, I would like to be a team member also. Anybody else. Please email directly > > BTW: Let's not talk about performance or ideology. Such e-mails will > be ignored. I'm not proposing the use of STREAMS as the *BSD core network > framework, but just that it could be available for others designers. I agree. I think we have to consider perfomance but not dwell ( or spinwait) on it. Cheers, Tony - sterrett@cts.com > > Jonny > > -- > Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br > +55 21 290-4698 ( Job ) jonny@cisi.coppe.ufrj.br > Network Manager UFRJ/COPPE/CISI > Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 12:01:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA29162 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psa.pencom.com (psa.pencom.com [204.217.199.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA29149 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rkk@localhost) by psa.pencom.com (Hah!/nope) id NAA09638; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 13:47:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Randy Kirchhof Message-Id: <199606251847.NAA09638@psa.pencom.com> Subject: Re: int link(const int inode, const char *name2) To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 13:47:08 -0500 (CDT) Cc: jonny@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br, terry@lambert.org, garth@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au, questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606251830.LAA00258@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Jun 25, 96 11:30:39 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ...And then Terry Lambert said: > > Probably better to write a program that includes the real headers and > use it to hack the FS. > Whatever happened to "fsdb", anyway? I learned a *lot* from that program back in the Old Days(tm). Does anyone know of a version that is being maintained and/or ported these days? r -- God will not look you over for medals, degrees or diplomas, but for scars. -- Elbert Hubbard ====================================================== _ Randy Kirchhof, Pencom Systems Administration Services _.| |_ Wk: rkk@psa.pencom.com Hm: rkk@kirchhof.com \. } Desk:512/343-1111 Fax:512/346-6444 512/259-7171 \_( From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 12:05:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA29414 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lint.cisco.com (lint.cisco.com [171.68.223.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA29396 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (skrishna@localhost) by lint.cisco.com (8.6.10/CISCO.SERVER.1.1) id MAA00758; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:05:49 -0700 Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:05:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Sridhar Krishnan To: questions@freebsd.org, support@cdrom.com cc: kopti@seas.gwu.edu Subject: Re: Boot Manager/ BSD on second disk (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi BSD'ers, This is in response to my earlier posting re: booting FreeBSD off the second hard disk. I have not recvd. much any solutions thus far. When I re-installed the whole thing again, I got a message "root system is read-only" in a dialog-box. Does anybody know what this means ? What I have found is the following: - If I install the BootEasy (during the sysinstall), the MBR is put on the boot area of the second disk (because FreeBSD is on second disk ?). I changed BIOS to look at second disk first for booting purposes, and I got the F1- dos, F2- BSD prompt. F2 would boot fine from the hard disk but would error with a panic: error in root (I don't recall the exact string). I have to try to use the fixit floppy to see if I can fsck the root system. I tried several options on the BIOS to "enable/disable" parameter mapping etc. - The install diskette has an option to change the root file system at the Boot: prompt. I tried -a flag, but it did not seem to work. Help will be greatly appreciated! TIA, Sridhar Krishnan From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 12:22:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA01224 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tommie.ngonet.be (tommie.ngonet.be [193.190.166.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA01190 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gonzo.ngonet.be (ppp1.ngonet.be [193.190.166.130]) by tommie.ngonet.be (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA04373 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 21:21:51 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <31D03C34.4AC3@ngonet.be> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 21:21:24 +0200 From: Gunter Loos Organization: NgoNet Brussels X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Does *anyone* know where the iijppp docs are? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Subject says it all. My ppp still doesn't work all the time and I'm getting desperate :-( Gul -- . .__ . |Gul bij zijn thuis - at home - working for the NgoNet _| _ [ __ | |Voice Gunter.Loos@+32 2 5392620 Fax +32 2 5391343 (_](/, [_./(_|| |mailto:gul@ngonet.be "You are all weirdos." - Sam the Eagle ----MijnEigenWoordenNietVanIemandAnders - MyOwnExpressionsNotSomeoneElses---- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 12:46:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA04987 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA04974 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA11345 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:44:47 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199606251944.MAA11345@MediaCity.com> Subject: tape changer program for ARCHIVE Python 28849-XXX 4.98? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: brian@MediaCity.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone have a tape changer program, or a reference to the scsi commands to do this, for the ARCHIVE Python 28849-XXX 4.98? -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 12:55:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA07497 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from husky.cslab.vt.edu (jaitken@husky.cslab.vt.edu [198.82.184.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA07433 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (jaitken@localhost) by husky.cslab.vt.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id PAA07019 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 15:54:56 -0400 From: Jeff Aitken Message-Id: <199606251954.PAA07019@husky.cslab.vt.edu> Subject: if_de and full duplex? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 15:54:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've got a machine with an SMC EtherPower (PCI) card in it and a free port on a PowerHub that supports full duplex mode. I'd like to put the ethernet card into full duplex mode and plug it into the PowerHub. However, poking around on www.freebsd.org, I see a message from David Greenman, dated 4 March 1996, stating that the 'de' driver doesn't support FDX mode yet. Has the driver for this card been updated since then? I don't have any experience writing device drivers, but I'm willing to help if there's anything I can do. Please cc me on any answer, as I don't read -questions. Thanks. -- Jeff Aitken jaitken@cs.vt.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 12:57:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA07933 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emcity.cs.twsu.edu (emcity.cs.twsu.edu [156.26.10.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA07584 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by emcity.cs.twsu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01250; Tue, 25 Jun 96 14:49:17 CDT Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:49:16 -0500 (CDT) From: john goerzen To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Plea for help! And panic & bug reports! In-Reply-To: <19371.835723373@time.cdrom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Send one message to questions with your questions. Send another to bugs > with your bugs. :-) How about questions relating to bugs? :-) (as some of these were) > > Well, that will fix root's password, but what about everyone else's? > > *Nobody* can log in right now. The passwd and master.passwd files are > > intact. I did run pwd_mkdb. > > You truly must have not installed DES is my only thought. Do your passwords > start with `1$' characters? I will check for sure, but I believe that they don't. I am about 95% sure of that. I did select the DES distribution, then from the sub-menu, what I remember is picking the first and the last items. I don't know exactly what that translates into.... I assume I can grab the DES distribution from the master site, and unpack with some statement like ``cd /; cat ~/des.* | tar -zxvopf -'' or some such? Again, I don't recall the exact nature of the distribution -- been awhile since I've messed with that. And I'm about 45 minutes away from my FreeBSD machine right now :-( Thanks again for the help, John "Passwordless" Goerzen From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 12:58:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA08011 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07974 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA00878; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:56:57 -0700 (PDT) To: john goerzen cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Plea for help! And panic & bug reports! In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:49:16 CDT." Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:56:56 -0700 Message-ID: <871.835732616@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > How about questions relating to bugs? :-) (as some of these were) Then go out on a limb and pick one. :-) > I did select the DES distribution, then from the sub-menu, what I > remember is picking the first and the last items. I don't know exactly > what that translates into.... > > I assume I can grab the DES distribution from the master site, and unpack > with some statement like ``cd /; cat ~/des.* | tar -zxvopf -'' or some such? Or some such. You can also just use the install.sh script provided there for the purpose. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 13:00:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA08714 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 13:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA08630 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 13:00:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uYeHb-00018bC; Tue, 25 Jun 96 16:00 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: Re: int link(const int inode, const char *name2) Date: 25 Jun 1996 16:00:16 -0400 Lines: 27 Message-ID: <4qpggg$g1r@twwells.com> References: <4qnonq$261@twwells.com> <199606251834.LAA00270@phaeton.artisoft.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <199606251834.LAA00270@phaeton.artisoft.com>, Terry Lambert wrote: : A zero reference count file will be assumed to be a temp file and : cleared. That's certainly not my recollection. : cleared. A file with a non-zero reference an n-1 or fewer real : references for a count fo n will go into lost+found on automatic fsck. If a file has _any_ references, it _will not_ go into lost+found. Instead, its reference count will be adjusted to reflect the actual link count. : There is also the danger that the recovery process could not be : initiated successfully if the system starupt created files and : (potentially) reused blocks from the file (probability depends on : file size relative to disk size times number of blocks allocated : for temp files of one kind or another on startup on that disk. Now I'm completely convinced you don't know what you're talking about. One of two conditions obtains at boot: either the inode remains on disk and so it holds the data blocks or the inode does not. If the former, the system startup can create files till the fs is full and the file's data won't be touched. If the latter, the file is already gone, gone, gone and it'll be nearly impossible to recover the data, no matter what the startup does. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 13:54:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA18511 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 13:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from park.interport.net (park.interport.net [199.184.165.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA18468 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 13:54:25 -0700 (PDT) From: kenny@essutton.com Received: from interport.net (uucp@madison.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.1]) by park.interport.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA02689 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:54:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ess.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by interport.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with UUCP id QAA27524 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:54:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199606252054.QAA27524@interport.net> Received: from kenny@ess by essutton.com (PMail+UDG PegWaf v0.26 93.04.04) id 0521 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:52:28 EST 5 GMT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:52:27 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: cdrom please help! Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Organization: E. S. Sutton Inc. Sutton Sportswear Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello there, I've asked this question over the newsgroups quite a few times, but have yet to get a real answer. Is there anyone out there who is currently working on CDROM problems? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I haven't been able to install from the cdrom. I had to make up a load of floppies and install the basic system that way. Would you have any idea how I would go about configuring the cdrom after I've installed the system? I have a NEC 2x cdrom (CDR-260) it's an IDE of course. The funny this is that I can't figure out how to get it setup under boot: -c verbose. The computer finds a secondary IDE controller at wdc1 and port 260 irq 15. As far as I know this actually is the cdrom! Ever if I remove it I can not get the cdrom to be recognized at that adress and I'm sure that irq 15 & port 260 are correct. Can you suggest anything? Kenny From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 14:15:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA21308 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA21290 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA00722; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:14:34 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606252114.OAA00722@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: int link(const int inode, const char *name2) To: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:14:34 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4qpggg$g1r@twwells.com> from "T. William Wells" at Jun 25, 96 04:00:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > : There is also the danger that the recovery process could not be > : initiated successfully if the system starupt created files and > : (potentially) reused blocks from the file (probability depends on > : file size relative to disk size times number of blocks allocated > : for temp files of one kind or another on startup on that disk. > > Now I'm completely convinced you don't know what you're talking > about. One of two conditions obtains at boot: either the inode > remains on disk and so it holds the data blocks or the inode does > not. If the former, the system startup can create files till the > fs is full and the file's data won't be touched. If the latter, > the file is already gone, gone, gone and it'll be nearly > impossible to recover the data, no matter what the startup does. Tell me: if an inode with a zero reference count is on disk and yet marked allocated (only possible if the machine was to be powered off with an unlinked yet open file), then is the precedence order such that the link count will be recovered because the blocks are validly referenced by the inode, and the file placed in lost+found, OR will the inode be cleared on the assumption that the system went down after the file was deleted but before the inode was marked free (which is, if you think about it, exactly what is happening)? You are confusing inode and vnode reference counts, I think. The inode reference has already gone to zero when the file was deleted, but it was not reclaimed because of the open reference at the time the 1->0 link count (reference count) occurred. >From the fsck man page: Inconsistencies checked are as follows: 1. Blocks claimed by more than one inode or the free map. 2. Blocks claimed by an inode outside the range of the filesystem. (1) 3. Incorrect link counts. 4. Size checks: Directory size not a multiple of DIRBLKSIZ. Partially truncated file. 5. Bad inode format. (2) 6. Blocks not accounted for anywhere. 7. Directory checks: File pointing to unallocated inode. Inode number out of range. Dot or dot-dot not the first two entries of a directory or having the wrong inode number. 8. Super Block checks: More blocks for inodes than there are in the filesystem. Bad free block map format. Total free block and/or free inode count incorrect. (3) Orphaned files and directories (allocated but unreferenced) are, with the operator's concurrence, reconnected by placing them in the lost+found di- rectory. The name assigned is the inode number. If the lost+found di- rectory does not exist, it is created. If there is insufficient space its size is increased. The question, then, is whether or not the inode remains allocated or not. In a normal shutdown, the answer would be "not", since the _exit for the process would close the file when it is killed, destroying the open reference and thus freeing the inode fore reuse. In the case of a normal shutdown with a directory entry diddled to point to the inode, the answer is still "not". When the FS deals with "incorrect link counts", it won't touch the file; the reason? The link count (0) is *correct*... the file is unreferenced. Whether it is allocated depends on step 6 of the fsck's defaults. The insertion of orphaned files into lost+found, and the creation of the lost+found in the root, and the resulting "off by 2" reference count for the root inode in the create case was the subject of my fsck patch. "Oops, I was wrong" will not bring back his file if he takes your advice and allows automatic fsck. It is dependent on the in core vnode reclamation list. He *needs* a reference in case the "allocated" bit has been reset (which is not the same as making it available for reallocation), and he needs a manual fsck for the same reason to allow linking the entry in. Alternately, if he has a kernel debugger, he could fake up a call to, ufs_direnter, which he would have to call the ffs_vget to get the inode by number to get the vnode pointer to get the inode data pointer to pass to direnter. He would need a storage area of 32 bits to pass to the vget, and then he would have to fake a CREATE nameidata structure pointing to the terminal component. The easiest method would be to call vget on inode 2 to get the vp for the root directory as the target directory for the direnter. This is a lot of work, and since the kernel debugger isn't there by default, his best bet would be to use a directory entry to trigger the fsck (non -y therefore non-automatic) stage 3 link count correction on the inode on disk. Again, alternately, it would be fairly trivial to write a system call to do all the work, using promiscuous knowledge of UFS structures, and then load the call, and call it (per the subject line). What I suggested before is the least effort route that provides a guarantee that the fsck won't stomp the file under any circumstances; *whenever* you do this kind of recovery, it's a good idea to run the fsck manually, anyway, so you can yes/no all of its decisions. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 14:28:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA22710 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA22694 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:28:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA04693 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:27:50 -0400 From: Charles Henrich Message-Id: <199606252127.RAA04693@crh.cl.msu.edu> Subject: FreeBSD on cdrom.com ? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:27:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Which version of FreeBSD is cdrom.com running? And are you folks using CCD out there? -Crh Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 14:44:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA24883 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:44:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonia.adweb.com (j7.brf9.jaring.my [161.142.2.149]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA24859 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from adrchew@localhost) by sonia.adweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id FAA00493; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 05:38:21 +0800 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 05:38:21 +0800 (SGT) From: Adrian Chew X-Sender: adrchew@sonia.adweb.com To: Questions FreeBSD Subject: PPP Configuration... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've got user PPP configured on my system only to find out that ppp wants a dstaddr (destination IP address) for -auto mode... is there a way to work around this for dial-up PPP with dynamic IP addressing? My only other alternative is to configure pppd, and for this the handbook suggests using kermit... kermit doesn't seem to come with WC's FreeBSD 2.1R CDROMs? I need to get it automated or at least command-line mode controllable... am planning to use crontab to schedule checks into my POP email server to check for mail automatically at certain intervals. Popclient part is easy but PPP connection has left me stumped so far. Any suggestions? Regards, Adrian Chew adrchew@pop.jaring.my From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 14:44:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA24952 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:44:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonia.adweb.com (j7.brf9.jaring.my [161.142.2.149]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA24928 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from adrchew@localhost) by sonia.adweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id FAA00469; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 05:20:06 +0800 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 05:20:06 +0800 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.3-beta [p0] on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199606251337.JAA26336@rk.ios.com> Reply-To: adrchew@relay4.jaring.my Organization: Alternate Dimensions From: Adrian Chew To: Rashid Karimov Subject: Re: Documentation for Device Drivers Cc: , Mannan Mohammed Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue Jun 25 01:37:04 1996 Rashid Karimov wrote: >>> >> Hi, >> >> I need to write a device driver for a (PCI) network (ethernet) adapter >> for FreeBSD. First of all, is there any documentation that will help >> me get started. Is there any book that I can buy that covers device >> drivers for FreeBSD (or UNIX). Secondly, is there any place I can >> get sample source code for a device driver for FreeBSD. > > Pay a visit to local Barnes and Noble - they have a plenty > of books on the topic. One of them is "Writing Device Drivers in C" > by Philip. M Adams. There's also ( pretty rudimentary) book on > writing the same things for SCO Unix ( vanilla SVR3). > > Intall the "sys" source code on your FreeBSD machine and take a dig - > this could be best way to go ( FreeBSD comes with FULL source code > which is also free :) >> >> Please send the reply to Mannan_Mohammed@ccm.ch.intel.com >> >> Thanks. >> >> Mannan. >> PS: BTW, I just ordered the CD for FreeBSD. If the CD contains >> any documentation, please let me know. > > See above :) - the source code will be there >> >> >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 14:49:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA25616 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA25602 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA05520 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:47:12 -0700 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA02189; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 20:48:54 GMT Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 20:48:54 GMT Message-Id: <199606252048.UAA02189@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: David.W.Markle@alliedsignal.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31D0063B.3CC9@AlliedSignal.com> (message from David Markle on Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:31:07 -0400) Subject: Re: News Groups Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Are you aware of any News groups out there for > setting and running FreeBSD? Linux has them. comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc However, I think you'll find this mailing list a more fruitful place for any questions you may have (and probably a bit quicker at responding as well). -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 14:50:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA25727 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA25601 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA02186; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 20:46:36 GMT Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 20:46:36 GMT Message-Id: <199606252046.UAA02186@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: lray@aurora.liunet.edu CC: QUESTIONS@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <96062509263438@aurora.liunet.edu> (lray@aurora.liunet.edu) Subject: Re: KERBEROS? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> lray@aurora.liunet.edu writes: > > I've got 2 questions I am hoping someone can help me out with. > First, I know there is an ftp site where all the questions sent to > this list are saved, but I can't where I saw it. Can someone > remind me? http://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/ has a searchable archive. > I'm trying to install the server version of Kerberos5-beta6 on my FreeBSD > 2.1.0 machine. The documentation clearly states that a bug in the sed command This is already available in the FreeBSD distribution as 'eBones' - there's even a handbook entry on how to set it up. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 14:52:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA25972 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA25917 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA02203; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 20:57:15 GMT Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 20:57:15 GMT Message-Id: <199606252057.UAA02203@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: rlyon@ozemail.com.au CC: hey@tuns.ca, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Richard Lyon on Wed, 26 Jun 1996 00:13:06 +1000 (EST)) Subject: Re: your mail Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > You need to run xdm from /etc/rc.local (not, contrary to some > > documentation somewhere, from /etc/ttys). > > > > The XFree readme file recommends /etc/ttys. Yes, that was the documentation I had in mind. I have been told, on good authority, that it should not be run from /etc/ttys, but can't remember the reason offhand. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 14:54:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA26230 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:54:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA26220 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA06763 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:52:43 -0700 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA02167; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 20:34:34 GMT Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 20:34:34 GMT Message-Id: <199606252034.UAA02167@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: kasturi@teil.soft.net Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (kasturi@teil.soft.net) Subject: Re: Current version wanted Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "K.V.S. Sankaram" writes: > > We are presently working with FREEBSD version 2.1.0. We would like to > > install the current version. What is the version currently available ? Is it > > available in a compiled form ? OR have we to download the source code and > > compile it ? 2.1.0 is the latest released version; 2.1.5 is expected to be released next month, and will be mainly bug-fixes to 2.1.0. > In fact, when we visited the ftp site, we found a directory by the name > > FREEBSD-CURRENT. It was not containing the binary code. What is this directory > > for ? What is the version it referring to ? This is the code currently under development, which will form version 2.2 of FreeBSD. This is distributed as source code, which needs an already-installed system to compile it. Periodically, "snapshots" of this development code are made available, which can be installed from the FTP site in the same way as release versions. These are kept in a directory called something like 060196-SNAP (from memory). > Does 2.1.0 version support PCI bus for ethernet cards ? Yes, a number of PCI ethernet cards are supported in 2.1.0. Please see the HARDWARE.TXT file in the root directory of the distribution for details. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 14:55:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA26364 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA26238 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA01477; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:21:08 GMT Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:21:08 GMT Message-Id: <199606251721.RAA01477@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: lupa@3loop9.com CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <9606242351.AA07398@netoutfit.com> (message from threeLoopnine Design on Mon, 24 Jun 96 16:57:10 -0000) Subject: Re: repartition Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [Cc line drastically pruned - I'm sure most of these people get far too much mail as it is] > I have a hard drive that I was previously using for both DOS and FreeBSD. > I would now like to remove the DOS partition, or convert it to a FreeBSD > Partition without destroying the information on the preexisting FreeBSD > partition. I would then like to use that new partition as my /usr > partition. Can any of this be done or am I just crazy. Any help would > very apreciated. Yes, FreeBSD has no problem coping with two "primary partitions" on the same disk. The easiest way is to re-run the installation program (either reboot off the boot floppy or run /stand/sysinstall, if your kernel can run gzip'd executables) and go into the partition editor. Delete the DOS partition and replace it with a FreeBSD one, use the 'W' command to write to disk and confirm that you know what you're doing. Then do 'Q' to exit and keep pressing escape until you leave the program. Then do 'fsck /dev/rxxxxx', where the x's will be replaced by whatever is correct in your case. eg for the first slice on the first IDE drive, this would be 'fsck /dev/rwd0s1'. All you have to do then is mount it. I would not recommend mounting it on /usr straight away, as any files that were there previously will become invisible. One way round this is to drop into single-user mode ('shutdown now'), mount the new partition somewhere else, copy everything off /usr onto it, unmount it and then mount it on /usr before exiting single-user mode (you'll need to edit /etc/fstab as well, to make sure it gets automatically mounted correctly at reboots). There are probably cleverer ways to do this, but I can't think of one offhand. A simpler alternative might be to mount it somewhere like /usr/src or /usr/local, where you can probably get away without having to go into single-user mode. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 15:39:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA02289 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 15:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kryten.nina.com (dyn024-gnv.51.fdt.net [205.229.51.25]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA02259 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 15:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from frankd@localhost) by Kryten.nina.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id SAA04574; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 18:36:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 18:36:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Seltzer X-Sender: frankd@Kryten.nina.com To: Adrian Chew cc: Questions FreeBSD Subject: Re: PPP Configuration... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Adrian Chew wrote: > I've got user PPP configured on my system only to find out that ppp wants > a dstaddr (destination IP address) for -auto mode... is there a way to > work around this for dial-up PPP with dynamic IP addressing? What ppp is asking for is the gateway of your ISP, not your IP address. If you include the line add 0 0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx the -auto switch will work as expected. My IP address is dynamically assigned and this works fine for me. > > My only other alternative is to configure pppd, and for this the handbook > suggests using kermit... kermit doesn't seem to come with WC's FreeBSD 2.1R > CDROMs? The distribution terms will not allow it to be included on the CD. If you use the port (after you get ppp running correctly :-) ), it will pull the tarball from the distribution site and compile it. > Regards, > Adrian Chew > adrchew@pop.jaring.my Frank -- Only in America can a homeless veteran sleep in a cardboard box while a draft dodger sleeps in the White House. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 16:04:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA05772 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:04:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jack.Colorado.EDU (jack.Colorado.EDU [128.138.149.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA05764 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jack (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jack.Colorado.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3/CNS-4.0p) with SMTP id QAA10335; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:59:33 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <31D06F54.3D4C@Colorado.EDU> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:59:32 -0600 From: "Mark O'Lear" Organization: University of Colorado X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Raynard CC: rlyon@ozemail.com.au, hey@tuns.ca, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail References: <199606252057.UAA02203@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James Raynard wrote: > > > > You need to run xdm from /etc/rc.local (not, contrary to some > > > documentation somewhere, from /etc/ttys). > > > > > > > The XFree readme file recommends /etc/ttys. > > Yes, that was the documentation I had in mind. I have been told, on > good authority, that it should not be run from /etc/ttys, but can't > remember the reason offhand. If you put it in /etc/rc (or rc.lcoal) and anything goes wrong with your X Windows (/tmp/.X0-lock doesn't get removed, mouse gets unplugged, mouse doesn't probe right, XF86Config gets updated incorrectly, etc.) then you will get one error message and then a text login screen. If it is in the /etc/ttys, you will get three errors with three graphics/text screen switches every minute or so until you correct the problem. This is a pain to correct while it is switching. Also if your system gets rebooted remotely (or crashes) and the monitor is normally left on (in power-saver mode), it could potentially do this for a long time without anyone fixing it (this can't be good for the poor monitor). > > -- > James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland > james@jraynard.demon.co.uk -- Mark O'Lear \ e-mail: Mark.Olear@Colorado.EDU University of Colorado \ phone: (303) 492-3798 Telecomm. Svcs. (CB 313) \ fax: (303) 492-5105 Boulder, CO 80309 \ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 16:18:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA07497 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kryten.nina.com (dyn051-gnv.51.fdt.net [205.229.51.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA07452 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from frankd@localhost) by Kryten.nina.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id TAA05017; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 19:14:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 19:14:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Seltzer X-Sender: frankd@Kryten.nina.com To: Adrian Chew , Questions FreeBSD Subject: Re: PPP Configuration... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > What ppp is asking for is the gateway of your ISP, not your IP address. > If you include the line > > add 0 0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Brain fart :-) What I meant to type is: set ifaddr 0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Please ignore the above. Frank -- Only in America can a homeless veteran sleep in a cardboard box while a draft dodger sleeps in the White House. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 16:40:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA10018 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grn4.recyclenet.com (grn4.recyclenet.com [204.255.144.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA10006 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:40:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from yegor@localhost) by grn4.recyclenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA06609 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 19:36:56 GMT Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 19:36:56 GMT From: Yegor Sinelnikov Message-Id: <199606251936.TAA06609@grn4.recyclenet.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: serial ports Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am still strugling with sio0 and sio1 ports. The irq and i/o address reported by BIOS seems to be correct and standard. But kernell does not recognise it: sio0 not found at 0x3f8 sio1 not found at 0x2f8 Any suggestions? Comments? Bye Yegor From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 16:40:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA10051 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA10028 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA01052; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:40:06 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:40:06 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199606252340.RAA01052@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compaq LTE Light 4/33C and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <4qmubh$pij@twwells.com> References: <4qmubh$pij@twwells.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk T. William Wells writes: > I've got this laptop. And a yen to have a portable Unix machine. > :-) However, I'd like to hear if anyone has run FreeBSD on a > Compaq LTE Light 4/33C before I try it. If so, how did it go? > Does FreeBSD "Do The Right Thing" with the power management > hardware? Any caveats I should hear? While I don't have any experience with the Compaq, we do our best with regard to power management and such. However, I've had a hard time debugging the APM support since it work on my machine and the beta-testers have had a difficult time getting useful information from the crashes and/or they've been using older/buggier versions of the code. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 17:16:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA11949 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:16:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kryten.nina.com (dyn051-gnv.51.fdt.net [205.229.51.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA11909 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from frankd@localhost) by Kryten.nina.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id UAA05588; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 20:12:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 20:12:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Seltzer X-Sender: frankd@Kryten.nina.com To: Yegor Sinelnikov cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial ports In-Reply-To: <199606251936.TAA06609@grn4.recyclenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 25 Jun 1996, Yegor Sinelnikov wrote: > I am still strugling with sio0 and sio1 ports. The irq and i/o address > reported by BIOS seems to be correct and standard. But kernell does not > recognise it: > sio0 not found at 0x3f8 > sio1 not found at 0x2f8 Is this the stock kernel or a custom one? If it is a custom kernel, show us your kernel config file. If this is the distribution kernel, check the POST message for com port addresses and IRQ. COM1 (sio0) should be 0x3f8 and IRQ 4, COM2 (sio1) 0x2f8 and IRQ 3. > > Any suggestions? Comments? > > Bye > Yegor Frank -- Only in America can a homeless veteran sleep in a cardboard box while a draft dodger sleeps in the White House. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 17:19:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA12412 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA12400 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:19:37 -0700 (PDT) From: SteveC8273@aol.com Received: by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA28500 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 20:19:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 20:19:39 -0400 Message-ID: <960625201938_224995673@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Hard Driver Problem Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear FreeBSD friends: I got some problem to solve when I tried to install FreeBSD to my system. My computer is a 80486 66MHz compatible. It has 20 MB RAM and a Maxtro 7850AV hard disk. The spec of HD is: CYL HD WP LZ SEC SIZE 1654 16 65535 1654 63 814MB I tried to install FreeBSD to my computer several times alread. Every time, it gave me an worrening message: " Calculated sectors per cylinder(3616) disagrees with disk label(2016). Also, the disk geometry it reconized when it tried to do the partition is: 827 cyls / 32 heads / 63 sectors Offset size end name ptype desc subtype flags 0 63 62 - - 6 unsed 0 63 1667169 1667231 wd0si 3 freeBSD 165 C Disk:wd0 Partition name: wd0s1 Free: 0 blocks(0MB) PART MOUNT SIZE NEWFS wd0s1a / 32MB UFS Y wd0s1b 51MB SWAP wd0s1e /var 30MB UFS Y wd01f /usr 700MB UFS Y Does the above infomation make any sense to you? Would it cause any problem in the furture? Steve From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 17:38:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA14590 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA14583 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA28115 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 18:40:08 -0600 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 18:40:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Joel Yancey To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Future Domain 16xx support Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk im wondering if the future domain 16xx is supported? i saw somewhere in the hardware faq that the TMC-850 future domain controller was supported, which is the 8 bit version of my 1610 controller. i ould try the TMC-850, but i dont kno what device to compile into the kernel, theres no documentation for any future odmain controllers =) thanks Joel Yancey dead.deadend.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 17:49:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA15780 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from infinity.c2.org (infinity.c2.org [140.174.185.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA15774 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:49:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sameer@localhost) by infinity.c2.org (8.7.4/8.6.9) id RAA25705 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Community ConneXion: Privacy & Community: From: sameer Message-Id: <199606260049.RAA25705@infinity.c2.org> Subject: "overlapped commands attempted"" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:48:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I screwed up my kernel so I tried to boot with kernel.GENERIC on my machine with an NCR and HP 2GB drives. It is now giving me "Overlapped commands attempted, unable to mount root partition" How do I fix this? I read on the archives the stuff about tags, but in order to remove tags I need to install an appropriate kernel, but the kernel on the standard boot floppy has this tags problem, so it can't read the disk. -- Sameer Parekh Voice: 510-986-8770 Community ConneXion, Inc. FAX: 510-986-8777 The Internet Privacy Provider http://www.c2.net/ sameer@c2.net From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 18:21:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA19385 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 18:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clotho.c2.org (clotho.c2.org [140.174.185.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA19360; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 18:21:21 -0700 (PDT) From: sameer@c2.org Received: (from sameer@localhost) by clotho.c2.org (8.6.12/CSUA) id SAA17741; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 18:21:13 -0700 Message-Id: <199606260121.SAA17741@clotho.c2.org> Subject: Need to figure out how to install a new kernel on boot floppy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 18:21:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have learned more about my problem and know exactly what I need to do, I think. I need to boot from a custom kernel, from a floppy, and have it use sd0a as the root device. I tried taking a floppy, installing boot blocks, building a kernel, and copying the kernel over to it (using a 2nd machine, which is working) but when the kernel boots, it tries to use fd0c as the root device even though the kernel config file said to use sd0a as the root device. help! thanks, -- Sameer Parekh Voice: 510-986-8770 Community ConneXion, Inc. FAX: 510-986-8777 The Internet Privacy Provider http://www.c2.net/ sameer@c2.net From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 18:44:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA21846 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 18:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA21819 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 18:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA03531; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 01:35:27 GMT Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 01:35:27 GMT Message-Id: <199606260135.BAA03531@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: fqueries@jraynard.demon.co.uk CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199606252048.UAA02189@jraynard.demon.co.uk> (message from James Raynard on Tue, 25 Jun 1996 20:48:54 GMT) Subject: Re: News Groups Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I wrote:- > However, I think you'll find this mailing list a more fruitful place > for any questions you may have (and probably a bit quicker at > responding as well). and received the reply:- :Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. : : To: David.W.Markle@AlliedSignal.com : Cc: questions@freebsd.org : Subject: Re: News Groups : Sent: 6/25/96 14:45:28 PM : :The following recipient(s) could not be reached: : : David.W.Markle@AlliedSignal.com on 6/25/96 14:45:28 PM : Recipient Not Found : [MSEXCH:IMC:ALLIED:EMAIL:EMAIL] Please get this sorted out! 8-) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 19:21:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA24529 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 19:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA24522 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 19:21:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id TAA19958 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 19:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrimp.whistle.com(207.76.205.74) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma019954; Tue Jun 25 19:20:34 1996 Received: (from julian@localhost) by shrimp.whistle.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA07513 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 19:20:33 -0700 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 19:20:33 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199606260220.TAA07513@shrimp.whistle.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: quickcam .. my kernel qcam driver fails to find it, but Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk xfqcam, running directly to the ports I guess, works fine.. qcamcontrol of course cannot work as the driver did not probe, so I have no command-line script drivable way of getting an image.. does anyone have any ideas? julian From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 19:30:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA25190 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 19:30:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA25179 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 19:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA12786; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 19:29:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606260229.TAA12786@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Charles Henrich cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on cdrom.com ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:27:45 EDT." <199606252127.RAA04693@crh.cl.msu.edu> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 19:29:23 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Which version of FreeBSD is cdrom.com running? And are you folks using CCD out >there? -stable with special local hacks to deal with 1250 users, and no - we're not doing any CCD. We have a far too-high failure rate on disk drives to even think about something like that...and it's not needed. We're completely limited by the user's Internet performance. We can only get the load up by increasing the anonymous limit. At 1250 users, we're pushing out about 25Mbps sustained, with peaks at 30Mbps. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 19:49:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA27871 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 19:49:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix.stylo.it (unix.stylo.it [193.76.98.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA27856; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 19:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from styloserver.stylo.it (trust.stylo.it [194.21.207.253]) by unix.stylo.it (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA04245; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 04:49:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by styloserver.stylo.it with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.12.736) id <01BB631A.F0990400@styloserver.stylo.it>; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 04:50:03 +0200 Message-ID: From: Angelo Turetta To: "'freebsd-security@freebsd.org'" , "'freebsd-questions'" Subject: Anybody using FrontPage server extensions for BSDI ? (DES-related) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 04:49:58 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.12.736 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BB631A.F0A02FF0" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. Contact your mail administrator for information about upgrading your reader to a version that supports MIME. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB631A.F0A02FF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FrontPage 1.1 server extension seems to run on 960501-SNAP, but it encrypts passwords with something different than the standard MD5. I've got the .za DES package, and I think I've managed to install it correctly, but FrontPage authentication is still failing. How can I check whether my crypt shared libraries are really doing DES ? What other encryption might they be using (after all, if DES was not in my system, how the hell was FrontPage able to save a DES-encrypted password for the administrator during setup ??? :-) Is anybody using FrontPage Extensions on FreeBSD ? I'm not on these lists, please Cc: replies to me. Thanks Angelo. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Angelo Turetta mailto:aturetta@stylo.it Stylo Multimedia - Bologna - Italy http://www.stylo.it/ ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB631A.F0A02FF0-- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 20:15:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA29125 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 20:15:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA29117; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 20:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA02789; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:31:17 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199606260301.MAA02789@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Anybody using FrontPage server extensions for BSDI ? (DES-related) To: ATuretta@stylo.it (Angelo Turetta) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:31:17 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Angelo Turetta" at Jun 26, 96 04:49:58 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Angelo Turetta stands accused of saying: > > FrontPage 1.1 server extension seems to run on 960501-SNAP, but it encrypts > passwords with something different than the standard MD5. > > I've got the .za DES package, and I think I've managed to install it > correctly, but FrontPage authentication is still failing. Can't help with that, sorry. > How can I check whether my crypt shared libraries are really doing DES ? > What other encryption might they be using (after all, if DES was not in my > system, how the hell was FrontPage able to save a DES-encrypted password for > the administrator during setup ??? :-) It's almost certainly statically linked. > Angelo Turetta mailto:aturetta@stylo.it -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 20:33:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA00518 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 20:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns3.mke.ab.com (ns3.mke.ab.com [130.151.86.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA00506 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 20:32:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com ([130.151.17.154]) by ns3.mke.ab.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22271; Tue, 25 Jun 96 22:32:40 CDT Received: from slip2.ven.ra.rockwell.com (slip2.ven.ra.rockwell.com [130.151.17.163]) by zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA12578 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:32:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:32:16 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960625233316.33ffb63e@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com> Organization: Rockwell Automation de Venezuela X-Sender: eparis@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: "Eloy A. Paris" Subject: Script run at shutdown? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, My apologies for this question that may be stupid but I am more System V oriented than BSD: is there any way to run a script at shutdown, like after invoking the commands shutdown, reboot or halt? In System V you can do so in the script rc.0 which takes care of unmounting file systems and maintenance stuff like that. I need this because the very last thing I want to do after the system is ready to die is to tell my UPS to kill power to preserve batteries. Thanks in advance. E-loy.- -- Eloy A. Paris Global Technical Services Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: 58-2-9432311 Fax: 58-2-9430323 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 22:02:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA05616 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 22:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA05611 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 22:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news2.swip.net (news2.swip.net [192.71.220.18]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id WAA22382 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 22:01:56 -0700 Received: from microfront.se ([192.36.49.23]) by news2.swip.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA08361 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 06:56:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from volf.microfront.se by mfsvinx.microfront.se id aa00626; Wed, 26 Jun 96 5:24:57 MST To: questions@freebsd.org From: Volf Cramsky Subject: DNS MX record X-Originating-Host: volf Reply-To: volf@microfront.se Message-Id: <1996Jun26.065856+0000@volf> Date: 26 Jun 1996 06:58:53 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: BWMail for Windows Version 3.2 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How do I tell My DNS about my domain? Using nslookup tells me I am on my domain. Yet trying to send a mail to a user on my domain do not work if I do not include the host on witch the user is on in the address. DNS MX record looks like: mydomain.com IN MX 10 myhost.mydomain.com I must send it to: myuser@myhost.mydomain.com rather then to myuser@mydomain.com Any idea? volf@microfront.se From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 22:06:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA05874 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 22:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.HeadCandy.com (root@[199.238.225.168]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA05854; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 22:06:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.HeadCandy.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA00462; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 22:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606260506.WAA00462@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.HeadCandy.com: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Tony Sterrett cc: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis , questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: STREAMS In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 25 Jun 96 11:57:11 -0700. Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 22:06:17 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> I took a look at linux streams implementation and that is completely >> out-performing. We could do really better if there was critical mass >> enough to start this project. Not to be a skeptic (OK, to be a skeptic) what solid data supports this linux streams thing being "completely out-performing"? Not to bash the Linux folks, but their enthusiasm and exhuberance many times overwhelms their ability to judge accurately. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@HeadCandy.com --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... Roll your own Internet access -- Seattle People's Internet cooperative. If you're in the Seattle area, ask me how. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 23:17:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA10784 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA10761; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA02006; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:15:54 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606260615.XAA02006@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: STREAMS To: michaelv@HeadCandy.com (Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:15:54 -0700 (MST) Cc: sterrett@cts.com, jonny@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199606260506.WAA00462@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> from "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" at Jun 25, 96 10:06:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >> I took a look at linux streams implementation and that is completely > >> out-performing. We could do really better if there was critical mass > >> enough to start this project. > > Not to be a skeptic (OK, to be a skeptic) what solid data supports > this linux streams thing being "completely out-performing"? Not to > bash the Linux folks, but their enthusiasm and exhuberance many times > overwhelms their ability to judge accurately. Probably it was worked on by Jim Freeman at Caldera, who did a lot of work on the Streams frameworks in UnixWare (SVR4.2 SMP), AIX, and Solaris before he left Novell/USG, and seriously knows what the hell he is doing. On the other hand, it could be some other guys, and I could be wrong. 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 23:54:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA12800 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onyx.southwind.net (root@onyx.southwind.net [204.95.83.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA12794 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:54:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from Ucomplet@localhost) by onyx.southwind.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with UUCP id BAA19240 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 01:29:10 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: onyx.southwind.net: Ucomplet set sender to jgoerzen@complete.org using -f Received: (from jgoerzen@localhost) by complete.org (8.7.5/8.7.2) id OAA00227 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:45:04 -0500 (CDT) From: John Goerzen Message-Id: <199606241945.OAA00227@complete.org> Subject: CD-ROM driver bug -- causes system lockup! To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:45:03 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL19 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I recently bumped the eject button on my CD-ROM drive. Now I know that this should not be done -- I should run umount first -- but anyway, I did it. I realized my mistake, and quickly ran umount /cdrom (it was mounted on /cdrom). At that point, the system locked up with a panic. My CD-ROM drive is a Sony CDU33A. Thanks for the help! (ps...please CC a copy of your answer to me! I am not subscribed to this list! THANKS!) -- John Goerzen | Turn your PC into a Workstation for FREE! Custom programming | Check out www.freebsd.org NOW! For free FreeBSD jgoerzen@complete.org | Unix shell access, 316-367-8490 with your modem. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 00:00:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA13227 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 00:00:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA13220 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 00:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA06425; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:56:10 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA11004; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:08:37 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199606260708.JAA11004@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: quickcam .. my kernel qcam driver fails to find it, but To: julian@whistle.com (Julian Elischer) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:08:36 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199606260220.TAA07513@shrimp.whistle.com> from Julian Elischer at "Jun 25, 96 07:20:33 pm" Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > xfqcam, running directly to the ports I guess, works fine.. > qcamcontrol of course cannot work as the driver did not probe, > so I have no command-line script drivable way of getting an image.. > > does anyone have any ideas? I didn't follow the thread up to now so I don't know why the kernel doesn't find the camera. I see no other way at the moment than taking pictures from the shell using qcamcontrol - I just tried it here (qcamcontrol -d 4 | pnmtotiff >file.tif ; xv file.tif). So why doesn't your kernel see the camera? I have: device qcam0 at isa? port "IO_LPT1" tty device lpt1 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr And consequently: qcam0 at 0x378 on isa qcam0: unidirectional parallel port lpt1 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt1 not probed due to I/O address conflict with qcam0 at 0x378 > > julian > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 00:20:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA14179 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 00:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de [139.30.40.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA14094 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 00:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lkoeller@localhost) by odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA24023; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:19:21 +0200 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:19:21 +0200 From: Lars Koeller Message-Id: <199606260719.JAA24023@odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de> X-Face: nLQGe[[K51[{{[C\,BiQm[7]u1m{N>_\%nLBo4t@)CoZ}hK[W7DwX&V=}Wf#Qb,j:Jpj[(12r=b~:dYmh]fDf\, ]_frt6eM' dated: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! > Hi BSD'ers, > > This is in response to my earlier posting re: booting FreeBSD off the > second hard disk. > > I have not recvd. much any solutions thus far. When I re-installed the > whole thing again, I got a message "root system is read-only" in a > dialog-box. Does anybody know what this means ? Perhaps the reason for not receiving many answers is the fact that it's described in the FreeBSD handbook, if I remember right? > What I have found is the following: > > - If I install the BootEasy (during the sysinstall), the MBR is put on the > boot area of the second disk (because FreeBSD is on second disk ?). I > changed BIOS to look at second disk first for booting purposes, and I got > the F1- dos, F2- BSD prompt. F2 would boot fine from the hard disk but > would error with a > > panic: error in root (I don't recall the exact string). > > I have to try to use the fixit floppy to see if I can fsck the root system. > > I tried several options on the BIOS to "enable/disable" parameter > mapping etc. > > - The install diskette has an option to change the root file system at > the Boot: prompt. I tried -a flag, but it did not seem to work. I did not follow the whole threat! But if I remember right the solution should be: Install BootEasy on both disks, the first and the second. If your first hd is of the IDE type (or compatible) and the second is a SCSI, then you also have to edit/compile the bootcode. Look into /usr/src/sys/i386/boot/biosboot/boot.c there you have to set BOOT_HD. Hope this helps. Regards Lars -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Lars Köller Phone: +49 381/498-1665, Fax: -1667 Universität Rostock E-Mail: Fachbereich Physik Lars_Koeller@odie.physik2.Uni-Rostock.DE Universitätsplatz 3 Anonymous ftp: 18051 Rostock (Germany) ftp://odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de/pub From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 00:20:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA14207 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 00:20:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA14196 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 00:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id JAA11359; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:20:20 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA24165; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:20:19 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id JAA10435; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:01:08 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199606260701.JAA10435@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Need to figure out how to install a new kernel on boot floppy To: sameer@c2.org Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:01:08 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199606260121.SAA17741@clotho.c2.org> from "sameer@c2.org" at "Jun 25, 96 06:21:11 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As sameer@c2.org wrote: > I need to boot from a custom kernel, from a floppy, and have > it use sd0a as the root device. I tried taking a floppy, installing > boot blocks, building a kernel, and copying the kernel over to it > (using a 2nd machine, which is working) but when the kernel boots, it > tries to use fd0c as the root device even though the kernel config > file said to use sd0a as the root device. boot -r is supposed to do this (see boot(8)). If you need it permanently, i suggest hacking the bootblock source to always set the RB_DFLTROOT flag, and install these bootblocks on the floppy. (The sources are in /sys/i386/boot/biosboot/.) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 00:21:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA14271 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 00:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA14262 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 00:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uYouH-000QYQC; Wed, 26 Jun 96 09:20 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA15705; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:19:22 +0200 Message-Id: <199606260719.JAA15705@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: DNS + Sendmail To: volf@microfront.se Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:19:22 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1996Jun25.122905+0000@volf> from "Volf Cramsky" at Jun 25, 96 12:29:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Volf Cramsky writes: > > I do not get it works. > > I can not even send a letter to a local user by: > > sendmail -v localuser@mydomain.com Are you at mydomain.com? As far as I know, this is an unregistered domain, so you would expect this. > Can any one mail me sendmail.cf and some dns files that works as ex.? No, I don't think anybody can. A sendmail.cf file needs some customization. You should have a good starting point in the sendmail.cf included in the distribution, but you will probably need to change something. Certainly if you want help you need to describe your installation. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 00:33:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA15811 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 00:33:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA15647 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 00:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA06907 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:29:41 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA11095 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:42:08 +0200 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:42:08 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199606260742.JAA11095@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: XFree86 (312D/312E) and W32/PCI (nogo) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk For several weeks I'm trying now and then more or less intensively - this is another approach now after postings to comp.sys.windows.x.i386unix remained fruitless - to find out, why FreeBSD-current (but also 2.1) doesn't work with a brand of W32/PCI-cards we are using here with some P90 systems in conjunction with syscons and XFree86. All I get is a black screen and a totally locked machine which can only be power cycled to re-animate. The Xaccel server works fine. This gradually is becoming urgent since the Xaccel server shows some ill behaviour with the Mentor Graphics software we are running and I would like to compare the Xfree86 server against it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 01:09:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA18558 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 01:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from csd.cs.technion.ac.il (csd.cs.technion.ac.il [132.68.32.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA18538 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 01:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nadav@localhost) by csd.cs.technion.ac.il (8.6.11/8.6.10) id LAA24167; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:09:00 +0300 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:09:00 +0300 (IDT) From: Nadav Eiron X-Sender: nadav@csd To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Booting from wd2 fails... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I have two EIDE disks, one with Win95 on it as the master of the primary controller, and the other, for BSD as a master on the secondary controller. I've installed BootEasy on both disks, and it lets me boot the kernel from wd2, but when it's time for it to mount the root filesystem, it looks for it on wd1 (the primary controller's slave), and since there is no such thing, it panics. I tried the -a and -r switches on the boot prompt, none of them made any difference. As the boot prompt imples the defaults are wd(1,a)/kernel, I also tried booting from wd(2,a)/kernel, but it didn't like it (didn't fine anything there, just got "Error: C=0; H=0; S=0"). Does boot gets wd1 and wd2 confused? What should I do? Thanks, Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 01:57:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA22310 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 01:57:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unicorn.uk1.vbc.net (unicorn.uk1.vbc.net [204.137.194.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA22106 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 01:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gordon@localhost) by unicorn.uk1.vbc.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA26538; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:53:57 +0100 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:53:55 +0100 (BST) From: Gordon Henderson X-Sender: gordon@unicorn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with 960501-SNAP ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm running this on 2 machines and see crashes about once or twice a day. Never seen any crashes when they were running with the FreeBSD 2.1-RELEASE... Although some of the hardware on the machines has changed during their upgrade (disks), I am wondering if anyone else has seen problems with 960501-SNAP? I've no idea what the problem is as one machine simply reboots leaving nothing in it's messages file (486dx4/100, 48MB, 3c509, Adaptec 2490 PCI SCSI, 2 drives) the other just stops requiring a reset or power cycle to get it going again (P120, 64MB, 3c509, Adaptec 2490 PCI SCSI & 4 drives) Both machines are (trying) to run as news servers ... I only upgraded to the SNAP release because of it's ability to run with the 3c590 cards but that was a waste of time as the 590 driver is useless )-: Any suggestions would be appreciated! Gordon From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 02:14:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA23698 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 02:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from para.paradigm2000.com (para.paradigm2000.com [202.76.31.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA23693 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 02:14:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by para.paradigm2000.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07920; Wed, 26 Jun 96 17:09:09 HKT Date: Wed, 26 Jun 96 17:09:09 HKT From: patrick@para.paradigm2000.com (Patrick Lau) Message-Id: <9606260909.AA07920@para.paradigm2000.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am new to FreeBSD, I currently installed the SNAP2.2-960611 and want to install X. I follow the readme of X and start configuring the XF86Config file. I encounter the following problem: I type xdm -nodaemon to test XDM and get the message: Fatal error: Can't find /dev/mouse something like that I go to /dev and follow the readme procedure to dmesg|grep sio and get sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff ........ also I try ./MAKEDEV tty00 and use cat < /dev/tty00 to see whether mouse response but get no such file tty00 error.... BTW: MAKEDEV tty00 will make tty*0 device. Am I correct? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 02:40:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA26152 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 02:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA26139 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 02:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA02927; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:15:32 GMT Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:15:32 GMT Message-Id: <199606252315.XAA02927@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: skrishna@cisco.com CC: questions@FreeBSD.org, support@cdrom.com, kopti@seas.gwu.edu In-reply-to: (message from Sridhar Krishnan on Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:05:28 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Boot Manager/ BSD on second disk (fwd) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Sridhar Krishnan writes: > > This is in response to my earlier posting re: booting FreeBSD off the > second hard disk. > > I have not recvd. much any solutions thus far. The solution I used: Insert install floppy in drive. At the boot prompt, type hd(1,a)/kernel This was to boot FreeBSD off a SCSI disk when an IDE disk was present. If you have two IDE disks, wd(1,a)/kernel, or for SCSI sd(1,a)/kernel should do the job (I think). As I remember, there was a bug in the 2.1.0-RELEASE install program which caused problems when installing FreeBSD to the second disk. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 03:12:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA28223 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 03:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA28210 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 03:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA08809 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:08:23 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA11458 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:20:50 +0200 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:20:50 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199606261020.MAA11458@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: DEFPA/DE500-XA (FDDI-100BaseTX) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk A question to the experienced: Would a PCI machine equipped with FreeBSD and these cards be suitable to act as a router between a FDDI/100BaseTX network? Is anyone running such a configuration? Can it be connected directly to a DECconcentrator900MX? Caveats? Cabling (SAS vs. DAS mode)? --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 03:19:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA28724 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 03:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA28710 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 03:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) id MAA01315; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:14:29 GMT From: Werner Griessl Message-Id: <199606261214.MAA01315@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: Re: your mail To: patrick@para.paradigm2000.com (Patrick Lau) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:14:29 +0000 () Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9606260909.AA07920@para.paradigm2000.com> from Patrick Lau at "Jun 26, 96 05:09:09 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi, > > I am new to FreeBSD, I currently installed the SNAP2.2-960611 and > want to install X. I follow the readme of X and start configuring > the XF86Config file. I encounter the following problem: > > I type xdm -nodaemon to test XDM and get the message: > Fatal error: > Can't find /dev/mouse something like that > > I go to /dev and follow the readme procedure to > dmesg|grep sio and get > sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff ........ > also I try ./MAKEDEV tty00 and use cat < /dev/tty00 to see whether mouse > response but get > no such file tty00 error.... > > BTW: MAKEDEV tty00 will make tty*0 device. Am I correct? > > Hi Patrick, Use /dev/cuaa0 for your mouse: Section "Pointer" Protocol "Microsoft" Device "/dev/cuaa0" Werner From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 03:22:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA28859 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 03:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from para.paradigm2000.com (para.paradigm2000.com [202.76.31.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA28852 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 03:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by para.paradigm2000.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08932; Wed, 26 Jun 96 18:16:56 HKT Date: Wed, 26 Jun 96 18:16:56 HKT From: patrick@para.paradigm2000.com (Patrick Lau) Message-Id: <9606261016.AA08932@para.paradigm2000.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Mouse problem Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am new to FreeBSD, I currently installed the SNAP2.2-960611 and want to install X. I follow the readme of X and start configuring the XF86Config file. I encounter the following problem: I type xdm -nodaemon to test XDM and get the message: Fatal error: Can't find /dev/mouse something like that I go to /dev and follow the readme procedure to dmesg|grep sio and get sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff ........ also I try ./MAKEDEV tty00 and use cat < /dev/tty00 to see whether mouse response but get no such file tty00 error.... BTW: MAKEDEV tty00 will make tty*0 device. Am I correct? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 03:39:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA29988 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 03:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA29983 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 03:39:55 -0700 (PDT) From: af@biomath.jussieu.fr Received: from mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr [134.157.72.87]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) with SMTP id MAA13603 ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:39:38 +0200 (METDST) Received: from garfield.biomath.jussieu.fr (garfield) by mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (5.67b/jn930126+af960507(mailhost)) at Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:39:14 +0100 Received: from (af@localhost) by garfield.biomath.jussieu.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) id MAA02648 ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:39:13 +0100 (GMT-1) Message-Id: <199606261139.MAA02648@garfield.biomath.jussieu.fr> Subject: Re: "can't find /dev/mouse" at X startup To: patrick@para.paradigm2000.com (Patrick Lau) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:39:12 +0100 (GMT-1) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9606260909.AA07920@para.paradigm2000.com> from "Patrick Lau" at Jun 26, 96 05:09:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Patrick Lau wrote / a ecrit: > > Hi, Hi... please put a "Subject:" in your mail, preferably relevant to your question. You're more likely to get an answer that way. > > I am new to FreeBSD, I currently installed the SNAP2.2-960611 and > want to install X. I follow the readme of X and start configuring > the XF86Config file. I encounter the following problem: > > I type xdm -nodaemon to test XDM and get the message: > Fatal error: > Can't find /dev/mouse something like that > > I go to /dev and follow the readme procedure to > dmesg|grep sio and get > sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff ........ > also I try ./MAKEDEV tty00 and use cat < /dev/tty00 to see whether mouse > response but get > no such file tty00 error.... On a system with a serial mouse, /dev/mouse should be a soft link to /dev/cuaaX (X = 0 or 1 depending on the port). My serial mouse is connected to COM1 and I have: lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10 Jun 25 16:05 /dev/mouse -> /dev/cuaa0 The dialin device related to /dev/cuaaX is /dev/ttydX *not* /dev/tty0X. I think that opening this device will hang until CD is asserted on the port, which might not be the case when a mouse is connected to it, hence the usage of /dev/cuaaX (dialout device). > > BTW: MAKEDEV tty00 will make tty*0 device. Am I correct? > > Wrong. "MAKEDEV ttyd0" would create /dev/ttyd0, /dev/ttyid0 and /dev/ttyld0. They most likely already are here, though, just like the /dev/cua?0 devices. Take a look at the first lines of /dev/MAKEDEV. Good luck, _Alain_ -- Alain FAUCONNET Ingenieur systeme - System Manager AP-HP/SIM Public Health 91 bld de l'Hopital 75013 PARIS FRANCE Medical Computing Research Labs Mail: af@biomath.jussieu.fr Tel: (+33) 1-40-77-96-19 Fax: (+33) 1-45-86-80-68 I've RTFMed. It says: "Refer to your system administrator" But... I *am* the system administrator :-] From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 03:42:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA00264 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 03:42:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rolta.com (firewall-user@[165.113.135.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA00250 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 03:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rolta.com; id FAA15816; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 05:29:35 -0500 Received: from 68f800.rolta.com(204.177.195.25) by gatekeeper.rolta.com via smap (g3.0.1) id xma015814; Wed, 26 Jun 96 05:29:29 -0500 Received: by 68f800.rolta.com (5.65c/1.920109) id AA03625; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:09:35 GMT From: vdongre@rolta.com (Vrushal Dongre) Message-Id: <199606261609.AA03625@68f800.rolta.com> Subject: Cost of 2.1 CD To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 26 Jun 96 16:09:32 IST X-Mailer: ELM [version 07.00.00.00 (2.3 PL11)] Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Can anyone tell me what the cost of the FreeBSD-2.1 CD is, in US dollars ? Regards, -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vrushal Dongre Email: vdongre@rolta.com " Nothing, is the worst thing that can happen to anybody " -Richard Bach ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 03:47:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA00443 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 03:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA00438 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 03:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id DAA24131 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 03:47:13 -0700 Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uYs70-000QbGC; Wed, 26 Jun 96 12:46 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA16381; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:15:05 +0200 Message-Id: <199606260915.LAA16381@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. BSDI? To: rchan@certicom.ca Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:15:05 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31cfefb3.2175336@mailhost> from "R. Chan" at Jun 25, 96 01:58:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk R. Chan writes: > > We are running freebsd from the walnut creek cd. We would like to move > to an O/S with more support such as BSDI or something else such as > SCO. By "something else", do you mean "no more support"? :-) > In any case, does anyone know what the differences are between > freebsd and BSDI's BSD/OS? Well, there are a few. On the whole, I think that BSD/OS is still more stable than FreeBSD, though the gap is narrowing rapidly. I used to use only BSD/OS (have done for over 4 years), but if they hike the prices yet again I'll seriously consider dropping them. > Can we run all the freebsd packages that came with the walnut creek > cd on a BSDI system? Not without recompilation. There are minor but significant differences between the object formats. You may also find that recompilation is not completely trivial. On the other hand, FreeBSD can execute BSD/OS executables. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 03:48:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA00490 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 03:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA00429 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 03:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uYs6z-000Qb8C; Wed, 26 Jun 96 12:46 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA16608; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:31:37 +0200 Message-Id: <199606261031.MAA16608@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: XInside's AccelX - 20% real memory? To: JSINNOTT@POMONA.EDU (JOHN) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:31:37 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <01I6APLP4NIQ8WWODO@POMONA.EDU> from "JOHN" at Jun 24, 96 06:53:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk JOHN writes: > > Running AccelX on FreeBSD, with 1152x9?? resolution and 65,000+ colors, > should the XServer show a 20% memory usage with ps aux? This is on > a PC with 48MB of memory, so this is 9MB+ of RAM. Does this sound reasonable? I don't know if it's reasonable, but it's normal. I'm running double-headed on a BSD/OS box (P/133, 64 MB, ATI GUP at 1280x1024 and Matrox Millenium at 1600x1200), and this is what I get from ps -u: root 162 1.4 28.7 15860 18196 ?? S Mon06PM 18:59.15 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/AcceleratedX/arch/BSDI/Xaccel :0 Older versions always seem to have bloated up to this size before dying of amnesia, but even shortly after starting up it goes up to about 8 MB. Admittedly, I have a large number of windows open (currently 23). Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 04:16:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA02011 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 04:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orac.albury.net.au (root@orac.albury.NET.AU [203.15.244.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA01994 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 04:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from darnison.albury.NET.AU (darnison.albury.NET.AU [203.17.235.237]) by orac.albury.net.au (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA15267 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:14:06 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:14:06 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199606261114.VAA15267@orac.albury.net.au> X-Sender: darnison@orac.albury.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_835762622==_" To: questions@freebsd.org From: darnison@albury.net.au (Don Arnison) Subject: Rebuilding Kernel make warnings X-Attachments: A:\CORRYONG; Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk --=====================_835762622==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings from Oz! You guys do a great job! I have what may be a problem.... When I rebuild the attached kernel, I get the following message: ../../i386/isa/seagate.c: In function `sea_data_output': ../../i386/isa/seagate.c: 1124: warning: assignment discards `volatile' from pointer target type The kernel boots OK, and seems to operate fine. Any ideas??? Thanks very much. 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I follow the readme of X and start configuring > the XF86Config file. I encounter the following problem: > > I type xdm -nodaemon to test XDM and get the message: > Fatal error: > Can't find /dev/mouse something like that This is because XF86Config assumes that /dev/mouse is a link to the correct mouse device, but the install program for 2.1.0 didn't set up this link (this has now been fixed). > I go to /dev and follow the readme procedure to > dmesg|grep sio and get > sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff ........ Good, this shows the serial port is being detected. > also I try ./MAKEDEV tty00 and use cat < /dev/tty00 to see whether mouse > response but get > no such file tty00 error.... > > BTW: MAKEDEV tty00 will make tty*0 device. Am I correct? It'll make a dial-in serial device, if I understand /dev/MAKEDEV correctly, which is probably not quite what you want... Assuming you have a serial mouse on COM1, you should set up the required link like this:- # cd /dev # ln -s cuaa0 mouse -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 05:08:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA04447 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 05:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA04442 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 05:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uYtO5-00018bC; Wed, 26 Jun 96 08:08 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: Re: Compaq LTE Light 4/33C and FreeBSD? Date: 26 Jun 1996 08:07:58 -0400 Lines: 18 Message-ID: <4qr96u$t5d@twwells.com> References: <4qmubh$pij@twwells.com> <199606252340.RAA01052@rocky.mt.sri.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <199606252340.RAA01052@rocky.mt.sri.com>, Nate Williams wrote: : T. William Wells writes: : > Compaq LTE Light 4/33C before I try it. If so, how did it go? : : While I don't have any experience with the Compaq, we do our best with : regard to power management and such. However, I've had a hard time : debugging the APM support since it work on my machine and the : beta-testers have had a difficult time getting useful information from : the crashes and/or they've been using older/buggier versions of the : code. We have two configs for the Compaq. In its desktop incarnation, it stays attached to a power source and in that configuration, I need it to be stable. When it's running on battery power, I can deal with it being less than stable. Anyhow, if it's stable when powered up, I could conceivably participate in the debugging of the code. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 05:08:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA04504 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 05:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA04499 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 05:08:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-3.ime.net.148.231.206.in-addr.arpa [206.231.148.132]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA12284; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:08:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31D12867.56EE@ime.net> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:09:11 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: volf@microfront.se CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS MX record References: <1996Jun26.065856+0000@volf> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Volf Cramsky wrote: > > How do I tell My DNS about my domain? > > Using nslookup tells me I am on my domain. Yet trying to send a mail to a user on > my domain do not work if I do not include the host on witch the user is on in > the address. DNS MX record looks like: > > mydomain.com IN MX 10 myhost.mydomain.com > > I must send it to: > > myuser@myhost.mydomain.com rather then to myuser@mydomain.com > > Any idea? > > volf@microfront.se All I had to do to fix this was add a Cwmydomain to sendmail.cf Example: ################## # local info # ################## Cwlocalhost Cwmydomain or Cwlocalhost mydomain I use the first style, It works, I don't know about the second but I was told it works to! -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 05:20:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA04963 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 05:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA04958 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 05:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-3.ime.net.148.231.206.in-addr.arpa [206.231.148.132]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA12810; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:20:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31D12B2F.61CD@ime.net> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:21:03 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick Lau CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: References: <9606260909.AA07920@para.paradigm2000.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Patrick Lau wrote: > > Hi, > > I am new to FreeBSD, I currently installed the SNAP2.2-960611 and > want to install X. I follow the readme of X and start configuring > the XF86Config file. I encounter the following problem: > > I type xdm -nodaemon to test XDM and get the message: > Fatal error: > Can't find /dev/mouse something like that > > I go to /dev and follow the readme procedure to > dmesg|grep sio and get > sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff ........ > also I try ./MAKEDEV tty00 and use cat < /dev/tty00 to see whether mouse > response but get > no such file tty00 error.... > I found I had to use /dev/cuaa0 to attach my mouse to X when I had X installed! > BTW: MAKEDEV tty00 will make tty*0 device. Am I correct? If you were to look into the MAKEDEV script you will see that it states how to make ALL tty devices like so: MAKEDEV tty -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 05:28:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA05246 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 05:28:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA05240 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 05:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-3.ime.net.148.231.206.in-addr.arpa [206.231.148.132]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA13005; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:24:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31D12C1A.49FC@ime.net> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:24:58 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vrushal Dongre CC: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Cost of 2.1 CD References: <199606261609.AA03625@68f800.rolta.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Vrushal Dongre wrote: > > Hello, > Can anyone tell me what the cost of the FreeBSD-2.1 CD is, in US dollars ? > Regards, Check out FreeBSD.org, They have all this online! There are several different price packages! Basic one time purchase is something like $39.95US I _belive_. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 06:57:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA09679 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 06:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from net1.netview.net (netview.net [199.3.74.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA09674 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 06:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corona (corona.netview.net [206.223.98.2]) by net1.netview.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA10929 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:57:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:57:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960626085918.0091d080@netview.net> X-Sender: jrclark@netview.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: John Clark Subject: system reports to root Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I used to really enjoy getting those system email reports to the root account. For some reason they have stopped coming. Would anyone have any idea why, what I did? I am not very good with cron so it is hard to say. While on this subject, should I enable this code? #find / ! -fstype local -a -prune -o \ # \( -name '[#,]*' -o -name '.#*' -o -name a.out -o -name *.core \ # -o -name '*.CKP' -o -name '.emacs_[0-9]*' \) \ # -a -atime +3 -exec rm -f -- {} \; I am not at all sure what all it wants to prune! Thanks in advance, John Clark [jrclark@netview.net] From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 07:07:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA10085 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 07:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns3.mke.ab.com (ns3.mke.ab.com [130.151.86.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA10076; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 07:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from by ns3.mke.ab.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AB26296; Wed, 26 Jun 96 09:07:10 CDT Received: from pegasus.ven.ra.rockwell.com (pegasus.ven.ra.rockwell.com [130.151.17.156]) by zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA14047; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 10:02:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 10:02:40 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960626100546.362f66d6@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com> Organization: Rockwell Automation de Venezuela X-Sender: eparis@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org From: "Eloy A. Paris" Subject: (SOLVED!) My Cyrix microprocessor/motherboard problems Cc: Gary Chrysler , "Lenzi, Sergio" , "M.R.Murphy" , "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" , sos@freebsd.org, Terry Lambert , Didier Derny , Alex Nash , "Andrew V. Stesin" , "Brant M. Katkansky" , "David Alderman" , "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone. Well, finally the problems with my Cyrix 486DX4/100 and my motherboard seem to be solverd. As you know, I was under severe attack of signals 10 (bus error) and 11 (segmentation fault) - almost all of them are, and this made my system too unstable to work as a dedicated server. In my last message I made a plan to find out the causes of my problem. These are the results: > 1) Replace the Cyrix 486DX4 with a genuine Intel DX4. OK, I got a genuine Intel 486DX4-100. I set up the jumpers of my motherboard accordingly and guess what? I got the segmentation fault when executing "man -a /usr/local/bin/*| col -b > /tmp/junk_test". This took me to the next step of my plan: >2) ... I am going to take my IDE harddrive with FreeBSD to another machine with an >Intel DX2/66 with a motherboard I know that works (it's a Digital computer, like one >that has been running Linux for about a year now with no problems - very good quality). I took the IDE hard drive with FreeBSD to a Digital DECpc LPx 466d2, with 16 Megs. of RAM and a 486DX2-66. Again, when trying "man -a ..." I got the segmentation fault. This really confussed me and made me suspect the problem was not hardware since I really trust the Digital mother board. The third step was not needed since step #2 failed: > 3) Get a different motherboard, one of good quality. I'll try to test the Cyrix DX4 on > it just to know if the problem is the microprocessor or the motherboard. I decided to made a final test to be sure the problem was not hardware: I repeated the same "man -a /usr/local/bin/* ..." test on my Dell Latitude XPi notebook with a genuine Intel Pentium @ 90 MHz. I had been running FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE on this machine for more than 6 months with no problems. Initially I did not get the segmentation fault but when I looked at the /usr/local/bin directory I saw the Elm files were not there, as compared to the FreeBSD in the installation I was problems with. I installed Elm in the notebook and I GOT THE SEGMENTATION FAULT. I upgraded to -stable and I still was getting the fault. Finally, I determined that the command "man -a elm" was causing the faults. Summarizing, I found two causes for the segmentation faults: 1) I was using to test my configuration a command ("man -a elm") that has some kind of bug (I guess). 2) I was configuring the jumpers of the mother board for a Cyrix DX4-100, as is my case. If I do this I get more segmentation faults than ever, beginning with the modload command that loads the screen saver module. To overcome this situation I configured the jumpers for a genuine Intel DX4-100. After I did this my system is stable!!! :-) I know this does not make sense (to have a Cyrix working in a mother board set up for an Intel) but it works. Well, I hope this helps people having the same problems I had. Thank you all people that helped me with suggestions and fresh ideas. See ya! E-loy.- -- Eloy A. Paris Global Technical Services Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: 58-2-9432311 Fax: 58-2-9430323 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 07:13:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA10400 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 07:13:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsd2.tinker.af.mil ([137.240.40.25]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA10394 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 07:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyates.tinker.af.mil (bbs.tinker.af.mil [137.240.40.15]) by bsd2.tinker.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA11184 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:12:55 GMT Message-ID: <31D14691.4749@bsd2.tinker.af.mil> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:17:53 -0500 From: Chris Yates Organization: LASM X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: DHCP server X-URL: http://www.cdrom.com/titles/freebsd.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a DHCP server available for BSD 2.1? I have been testing several BOOTP servers with DHCP extensions, but have not been entirely pleased. I would prefer a full fledged DHCP server to provide the functionality required on this project. Can you point me to a good resource? Chris Yates Systems Analyst Century Technologies, Inc. (405)736-4142 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 07:39:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA12255 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 07:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA12245 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 07:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0uYvdF-0004wtC; Wed, 26 Jun 96 10:31 EDT Received: from elmer.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17697; Wed, 26 Jun 96 10:31:20 EDT Received: by elmer.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA13228; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 10:32:43 -0400 From: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Message-Id: <199606261432.KAA13228@elmer.picker.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 and slattach To: haynes@chistech.com (Jeff Haynes) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 10:32:43 -0400 (EDT) Cc: jeff@tenforwd.wiz.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606251353.IAA01746@brazil.chistech.com> from "Jeff Haynes" at Jun 25, 96 08:53:48 am Reply-To: rhh@ct.picker.com Organization: Picker International, CT Division X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I can't seem to get slattach to work with 2.1. Anytime I try to execute >it, the error message returns somthing about "sl-1". It appears that >slattach is not initializing the unit number correctly. The unit script >is getting "-1 -1" >as its parameters. I think that I've been looking at this for too long >and need a fresh perspective. What am I missing? You might verify that you've got support for the SLIP devices in your kernel (/dev/sl0, /dev/sl1, etc.). Sounds like that might be missing. My slattaches automatically seem to pick up the next unused /dev/sl? device using a kernel with SLIP support. Here are the relevent sections from my kernel config: pseudo-device loop pseudo-device sl 2 device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr device sio3 at isa? port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector siointr I run one hard-wired SLIP link using this command in /etc/start_if.sl0: slattach -h -c -s 115200 -l /dev/cuaa1 with this sysconfig entry: ifconfig_sl0="inet 144.54.61.18 144.54.61.17 netmask 255.255.255.240 mtu 1500" I also run a dial-up SLIP link on sl1 using this slattach command (wrapped in my dial-up script): slattach -h -c -s 57600 -r MY_REDIAL_SCRIPT /dev/cuaa0 I run a hard-wired PLIP link as well. Randall Hopper rhh@ct.picker.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 08:20:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA14472 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA14467 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA17259; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:20:42 GMT Message-Id: <199606261520.PAA17259@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA018262470; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:21:10 -0600 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:21:10 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: darnison@albury.net.au Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606261114.VAA15267@orac.albury.net.au> (darnison@albury.net.au) Subject: Re: Rebuilding Kernel make warnings Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Don" == Don Arnison writes: Don> Greetings from Oz! Question: why is Australia often called Oz? Don> You guys do a great job! Not me ... but everyone else does! Don> ../../i386/isa/seagate.c: In function `sea_data_output': Don> ../../i386/isa/seagate.c: 1124: warning: assignment discards Don> `volatile' from pointer target type Don> Any ideas??? It's just a warning message (as it says). The compiler is warning you that the C code it's compiling is valid syntactically, but the semantics may not be what you expect. At run time, there may be some unintended behavior. If it's working for you, just relax. You can throttle the amount of warning messages produced by the GNU compiler---rather like a sliding control on anal retentiveness. If you increase the amount of warning checking to the maximum, I'd bet you get hundreds of warning messages when compiling a kernel. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 08:23:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA14560 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lint.cisco.com (lint.cisco.com [171.68.223.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA14555 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (skrishna@localhost) by lint.cisco.com (8.6.10/CISCO.SERVER.1.1) id IAA07917; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:21:38 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:21:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Sridhar Krishnan To: James Raynard cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, support@cdrom.com, kopti@seas.gwu.edu Subject: Re: Boot Manager/ BSD on second disk (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199606252315.XAA02927@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Typing wd(1,a)/kernel worked for booting from a floppy, when the system is on the second drive. Thanks !!! If I set my BIOS to boot from the second drive, the system thinks that the system is on wd(0,a), however when the time comes to mount it is actually wd(1,a). I think the kernel gets confused because it assigns the first boot device as drive 0. I do not have enough expertise or the courage to modify boot.c and do a 'disklabel'. Appreciate your help. On Tue, 25 Jun 1996, James Raynard wrote: > >>>>> Sridhar Krishnan writes: > > > > This is in response to my earlier posting re: booting FreeBSD off the > > second hard disk. > > > > I have not recvd. much any solutions thus far. > > The solution I used: > > Insert install floppy in drive. At the boot prompt, type > > hd(1,a)/kernel > > This was to boot FreeBSD off a SCSI disk when an IDE disk was > present. If you have two IDE disks, wd(1,a)/kernel, or for SCSI > sd(1,a)/kernel should do the job (I think). > > As I remember, there was a bug in the 2.1.0-RELEASE install program > which caused problems when installing FreeBSD to the second disk. > > -- > James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland > james@jraynard.demon.co.uk > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 09:43:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA19697 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.think.com (Mail1.Think.COM [131.239.33.245]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19692 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:43:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Early-Bird-1.Think.COM by mail.think.com; Wed, 26 Jun 96 12:21:57 -0400 Received: from compound.Think.COM by Early-Bird.Think.COM; Wed, 26 Jun 96 12:43:21 EDT Received: (from alk@localhost) by compound.Think.COM (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA25259; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:46:44 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:46:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Tony Kimball Message-Id: <199606261646.LAA25259@compound.Think.COM> To: questions@freebsd.com Subject: SCO compatibility Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am about to try running Chorus Systemes' COOL ORB under FBSD. Chorus distributes an ORB for "SCO OpenServer 3.0" and for "SCO OpenServer 5.0". Which do I want? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 09:55:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA20395 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:55:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br (root@cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.2.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA20371; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA22619; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:54:10 -0300 (EST) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199606261654.NAA22619@mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: STREAMS To: michaelv@HeadCandy.com (Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:54:10 -0300 (EST) Cc: sterrett@cts.com, questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606260506.WAA00462@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> from "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" at "Jun 25, 96 10:06:17 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL14 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk #define quoting(Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com) // >> I took a look at linux streams implementation and that is completely // >> out-performing. We could do really better if there was critical mass // >> enough to start this project. // // Not to be a skeptic (OK, to be a skeptic) what solid data supports // this linux streams thing being "completely out-performing"? Not to // bash the Linux folks, but their enthusiasm and exhuberance many times // overwhelms their ability to judge accurately. Oooooooooooooooooooooooops... English is not my own language and maybe I have expressed myself wrong. Sorry. 8^) With out-performing I wanted to say: "out of an acceptable performance", "bad performing". I say this because ALL of it's buffer allocation scheme is based on the kernel malloc()/free() functions, and not on a pre-allocated buffer pool. Maybe STREAMS implementation could be more easily implemented if we noted the similarities with the BSD scheme, since both derive from the eighth edition streams. (Red Book, page 15) Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 ( Job ) jonny@cisi.coppe.ufrj.br Network Manager UFRJ/COPPE/CISI Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 10:56:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA24759 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 10:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vpm.com ([207.49.29.143]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24754 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 10:56:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by vpm.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA14027 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 10:58:18 -0700 From: Mark Stout Message-Id: <199606261758.KAA14027@vpm.com> Subject: Traceroute broken? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 10:58:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: In attempting to prove that there's troubles on my providers network, I have been using traceroutes from an external server (netcom.com) to my server (vpm.com). There's definately a problem and that started around May 15th. They are starting to listen and agree that there's a problem. Yesterday, they switched routers and now we're seeing the probes reporting that they're going through the router twice, see lines 2 & 3 below. traceroute to netcom.com (192.100.81.100), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 207.49.29.1 (207.49.29.1) 2.350 ms 1.474 ms 1.571 ms 2 eli-xmission.elix.net (206.29.193.17) 234.097 ms 238.531 ms 269.348 ms 3 eli-xmission.elix.net (206.29.193.17) 231.281 ms 187.589 ms 200.228 ms 4 core1-fddi.SaltLake.elix.net (207.0.56.17) 239.250 ms 185.512 ms 161.534 They are telling us that FreeBSD & Linux's traceroute program is broken. I didn't see this before the move, so I need some input from you someone who may know more than I do so I can have some ammunition to discount their thoery. I don't see the router twice when I do a traceroute from netcom.com, which runs SunOS. Another thing is I can't do a traceroute using the -s . It just times out. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mark -- ========================================================================== Mark Stout | The Village Potpourri Mall: http://www.vpm.com/ ---------------+---------------------------------------------------------- VPM Enterprises; P.O.Box 6427; Folsom, CA 95763-6427 Secured Web Hosting and Secured Discussion Groups Secured Internet Sales, Marketing and Advertising Specialist ========================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 10:58:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA24922 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 10:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ds1.gl.umbc.edu (root@ds1.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.3.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24916 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 10:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fizix ([147.103.26.52]) by ds1.gl.umbc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA01905 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:58:39 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:58:39 -0400 Message-Id: <199606261758.NAA01905@ds1.gl.umbc.edu> X-Sender: ssriva1@pop.gl.umbc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: Sandip Srivastava Subject: How do I access DOS partition from FreeBSD? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I want to access my DOS partition from FreeBSD, how do I do it? -Sandip From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 11:10:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA25260 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.Stanford.EDU (mailhub.Stanford.EDU [36.21.0.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25253 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by mailhub.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA12148 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:10:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Message to Root Every 5 Minutes Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm getting the following message sent every five minutes--it ends up in /var/mail/root: >From daemon Wed Jun 26 08:10:01 1996 Received: (from root@localhost) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) id IAA00596; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606261510.IAA00596@andrsn.stanford.edu> From: root (Cron Daemon) To: root Subject: Cron root /usr/libexec/atrun X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: root: not found I must have something set wrong--any ideas? Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 11:15:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA25434 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.Stanford.EDU (mailhub.Stanford.EDU [36.21.0.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25429 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:15:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by mailhub.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA12302 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:15:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Charlie ROOT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 11:17:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA25567 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.Clark.Net (mail.clark.net [168.143.0.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25556 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clark.net (root@clark.net [168.143.0.7]) by mail.Clark.Net (8.7.3/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA03073 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:17:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from clark.net (markus@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clark.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id OAA18789 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:17:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199606261817.OAA18789@clark.net> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: problems with 3C590 on 2.2-960612-SNAP Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:16:58 -0400 From: Mark Plummer Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hello, i'm trying to set up 2.2-960612-SNAP as router using 3C590 PCI cards, and i'm having a number of problems. the hardware platform is a dell dimension XPS P133. the network performance of this setup is horrendous when it decides to work at all. for small amounts of data, it's actually pretty good (hard to measure for such small amounts, but on the order of what i'd expect), but for anything over about 1kB or maybe 1536 bytes, it's chancy as to whether it works at all. i'm using ftp to do most of my testing, both as ftp hosted on this machine and as ftp using this machine as a router. when i boot, the message i get on the ethernet cards is: vx0 <3Com 3c590 EtherLink III PCI> rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:15 aui/bnc/utp[*BNC*] address 00:a0:24:59:da:e1 Warning! Defective early revision adapter! vx1 <3Com 3c590 EtherLink III PCI> rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:16 aui/bnc/utp[*BNC*] address 00:a0:24:72:eb:ba Warning! Defective early revision adapter! i looked in the source and found: /* * Check for receive overrun anomaly in the first revision of the * adapters. */ if(!(get_e(unit, EEPROM_SOFT_INFO_2) & NO_RX_OVN_ANOMALY)) { printf("Warning! Defective early revision adapter!\n"); } but these cards were purchased pretty recently. does anyone know where to get cards which do not suffer from this anomaly? does anyone know why performance on dos based machines aren't suffering from the same problems? does anyone know if this is to be fixed before the main release of 2.2? does anyone have good experiences either with these cards (and what are you doing right that i'm doing wrong) or with other pci ethernet cards (i've heard that the SMC EtherPower cards are pretty good)? i'd appreciate any information and will answer further questions. thanks markus -- Mark Plummer, markus@clark.net, +1 410 796 1272 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 11:17:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA25595 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.Stanford.EDU (mailhub.Stanford.EDU [36.21.0.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25589 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by mailhub.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA12390 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:17:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:17:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 11:19:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA25678 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:19:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from perseus.ultra.net (perseus.ultra.net [199.232.56.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25662 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:19:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kbranco ([146.115.57.4]) by perseus.ultra.net (8.7.4/dae0.6) with SMTP id OAA10386 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:18:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960626182110.0068e0ec@ma.ultranet.com> X-Sender: kbranco@ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:21:10 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.com From: Kenny Subject: Re-install FreeBSD 2.1.0 Release Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would like to re-install FreeBSD 2.1.0 Release from the CD-ROM. My original install was with floppies. Do I have to remove anything before I re-install from the CD-ROM? The FreeBSD boot manager is installed on my system. Thanks!!! Kenny From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 11:28:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA26000 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:28:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA25994; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:28:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199606261828.LAA25994@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Message to Root Every 5 Minutes To: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu (Annelise Anderson) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Annelise Anderson" at Jun 26, 96 11:10:16 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Annelise Anderson wrote: > > I'm getting the following message sent every five minutes--it ends > up in /var/mail/root: > > > >From daemon Wed Jun 26 08:10:01 1996 > Received: (from root@localhost) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) id IAA00596; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:10:01 -0700 (PDT) > Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:10:01 -0700 (PDT) > Message-Id: <199606261510.IAA00596@andrsn.stanford.edu> > From: root (Cron Daemon) > To: root > Subject: Cron root /usr/libexec/atrun > X-Cron-Env: > X-Cron-Env: > X-Cron-Env: > X-Cron-Env: > X-Cron-Env: > > root: not found > > I must have something set wrong--any ideas? hello annelise, looks like your /etc/crontab has an error. it should look like this: [snip] # #minute hour mday month wday who command # */5 * * * * root /usr/libexec/atrun [snip] the HOME enviroment variable is set to "HOME=/root" should be "HOME=/var/log" jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 11:37:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA26447 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA26442 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:37:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14639(1)>; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:37:13 PDT Received: by crevenia.parc.xerox.com id <177476>; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:37:10 -0700 From: Bill Fenner To: mcs@vpm.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Traceroute broken? Message-Id: <96Jun26.113710pdt.177476@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:37:10 PDT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk While you're running the traceroute, do a tcpdump -v ip proto 1 or ip dst netcom.com to see what packets traceroute is sending out and what you're getting back from the routers. Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 11:42:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA26678 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.Stanford.EDU (mailhub.Stanford.EDU [36.21.0.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26673 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by mailhub.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA13151; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:42:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Branson Matheson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199606261831.OAA26926@garion.hq.ferg.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Branson Matheson wrote: > -------- > > Annelise Anderson uttered with conviction: > >subscribe > > BAD BAD BAD.... Oh, sorry. I did it twice, too. Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 11:46:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA26817 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.statsci.com ([198.145.127.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA26808 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from statsci.com by main.statsci.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0uYzb6-000607C; Wed, 26 Jun 96 11:45 PDT Message-Id: To: Annelise Anderson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Message to Root Every 5 Minutes References: In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:10:16 -0700." Reply-to: scott@statsci.com Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:45:51 -0700 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Annelise Anderson wrote: > I'm getting the following message sent every five minutes--it ends > up in /var/mail/root: > > > >From daemon Wed Jun 26 08:10:01 1996 > Received: (from root@localhost) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) id IAA00596; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:10:01 -0700 (PDT) > Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:10:01 -0700 (PDT) > Message-Id: <199606261510.IAA00596@andrsn.stanford.edu> > From: root (Cron Daemon) > To: root > Subject: Cron root /usr/libexec/atrun > X-Cron-Env: > X-Cron-Env: > X-Cron-Env: > X-Cron-Env: > X-Cron-Env: > > root: not found > > I must have something set wrong--any ideas? Looks like you got an entry from /etc/crontab into root's cron file in the spool area. The spool area cron files don't have a username as item right before the command but /etc/crontab does. You probably want to do a 'crontab -e' to edit the spool area cron file to remove the "root"...or remove that line altogether since it might already be in /etc/crontab. Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 Mathsoft (Data Analysis Products Div) 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 11:49:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA26954 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:49:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.Stanford.EDU (mailhub.Stanford.EDU [36.21.0.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26948 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by mailhub.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA13404; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:49:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:49:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Message to Root Every 5 Minutes In-Reply-To: <199606261828.LAA25994@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > Annelise Anderson wrote: > > > > I'm getting the following message sent every five minutes--it ends > > up in /var/mail/root: > > > > > > >From daemon Wed Jun 26 08:10:01 1996 > > Received: (from root@localhost) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) id IAA00596; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:10:01 -0700 (PDT) > > Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:10:01 -0700 (PDT) > > Message-Id: <199606261510.IAA00596@andrsn.stanford.edu> > > From: root (Cron Daemon) > > To: root > > Subject: Cron root /usr/libexec/atrun > > X-Cron-Env: > > X-Cron-Env: > > X-Cron-Env: > > X-Cron-Env: > > X-Cron-Env: > > > > root: not found > > > > I must have something set wrong--any ideas? > > hello annelise, > looks like your /etc/crontab has an error. it should look > like this: > > [snip] > # > #minute hour mday month wday who command > # > */5 * * * * root /usr/libexec/atrun > [snip] > > the HOME enviroment variable is set to "HOME=/root" > should be "HOME=/var/log" > > jmb It is set to /var/log--here it is: # /etc/crontab - root's crontab for FreeBSD # # $Id: crontab,v 1.10 1995/05/27 01:55:21 ache Exp $ # From: Id: crontab,v 1.6 1993/05/31 02:03:57 cgd Exp # SHELL=/bin/sh PATH=/etc:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin HOME=/var/log # #minute hour mday month wday who command # */5 * * * * root /usr/libexec/atrun # # rotate log files every hour, if necessary #0 * * * * root /usr/bin/newsyslog # # do daily/weekly/monthly maintenance 0 2 * * * root /etc/daily 2>&1 | sendmail root 30 3 * * 6 root /etc/weekly 2>&1 | sendmail root 30 5 1 * * root /etc/monthly 2>&1 | sendmail root # # time zone change adjustment for wall cmos clock, # does nothing, if you have UTC cmos clock. # See adjkerntz(8) for details. 1,31 0-4 * * * root /sbin/adjkerntz -a Not exactly a custom crontab, is it? Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 12:01:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA27456 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:01:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA27442 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ag07794; 26 Jun 96 19:42 +0100 Received: from longacre.demon.co.uk ([158.152.156.24]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa04284; 26 Jun 96 18:02 +0100 From: Michael Searle Message-ID: To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Async/ro partitions, command timer Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 17:16:14 BST X-Mailer: Offlite 0.09 / Termite Internet for Acorn RISC OS Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My system has /usr, /home, /var and / partitions, set up in the standard way except for /tmp being linked to /var/rtmp (not /var/tmp, so that isn't cleared at boot.) What I want to do is mount / and maybe /usr read-only, to reduce the chance of FS damage when crashing, and mount /var async for better speed with temporary files. Are there any problems with this? (as in things that have to be r/w in / or /usr. I know async is less reliable, which is why I only want to do it to /var, not /home.) I can mount read-only, but how exactly do I mount async? Also, is there some way of running timed commands (in a similar way to cron), but if at the time specified FreeBSD is not running, then the command will be run at boot time? (My system is dual-boot, and could be in DOS at any given time. It is never running at all overnight when cron looks for /etc/*ly.) It wouldn't matter if this only ran once, at boot, rather than every minute, as it would only be used for things like /etc/*ly and I boot at least once every day. At the moment, I usually forget about them for a long time, then do /etc/daily; /etc/weekly; /etc/monthly, which isn't very useful. The only other way without this timer would be to run all three at boot, which would be slow. -- Michael Searle - searle@longacre.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 12:05:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA27928 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA27919; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:05:51 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199606261905.MAA27919@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Message to Root Every 5 Minutes To: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu (Annelise Anderson) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:05:50 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Annelise Anderson" at Jun 26, 96 11:49:47 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Annelise Anderson wrote: > > > > On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > > Annelise Anderson wrote: > > > > > > I'm getting the following message sent every five minutes--it ends > > > up in /var/mail/root: > > > > > > > > > >From daemon Wed Jun 26 08:10:01 1996 > > > Received: (from root@localhost) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) id IAA00596; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:10:01 -0700 (PDT) > > > Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:10:01 -0700 (PDT) > > > Message-Id: <199606261510.IAA00596@andrsn.stanford.edu> > > > From: root (Cron Daemon) > > > To: root > > > Subject: Cron root /usr/libexec/atrun > > > X-Cron-Env: > > > X-Cron-Env: > > > X-Cron-Env: > > > X-Cron-Env: > > > X-Cron-Env: [snip] this is the /etc/crontab. the HOME is fine but it does not match the HOME from the mail message above. check the crontab for root in /var/cron/tabs. > It is set to /var/log--here it is: > > # /etc/crontab - root's crontab for FreeBSD > # > # $Id: crontab,v 1.10 1995/05/27 01:55:21 ache Exp $ > # From: Id: crontab,v 1.6 1993/05/31 02:03:57 cgd Exp > # > SHELL=/bin/sh > PATH=/etc:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin > HOME=/var/log jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 12:18:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA29183 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from masternet.it (root@masternet.it [194.184.65.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA29173 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from socrate (ts1port4d.masternet.it [194.184.65.26]) by masternet.it (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA27229 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:15:38 +0200 Message-ID: <31D19982.41C67EA6@masternet.it> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 22:11:46 +0200 From: Beck Peccoz Amedeo X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: IPX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Please reply to me personally as I'm not subscribed to this mailing list. Is anyone experienced with the IPX protocol under FreeBSD? I'd like to know if it's possible to have a FreeBSD file server seen by DOS clients using the IPX protocol. At present I'm using TCP/IP & samba, but the TCP/IP under DOS is really unusable... Thank you -- Beck-Peccoz Amedeo GEA Software S.r.l. Via Deffeyes, 1 11025 Gressoney Saint Jean (AO) ITALY Tel. ++39-125-366302 Fax. ++39-125-366415 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 12:57:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA03937 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:57:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.Stanford.EDU (mailhub.Stanford.EDU [36.21.0.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA03931 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by mailhub.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA15160; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:57:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Scott Blachowicz cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Message to Root Every 5 Minutes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Scott Blachowicz wrote: > Annelise Anderson wrote: > > > I'm getting the following message sent every five minutes--it ends > > up in /var/mail/root: > > > > > > >From daemon Wed Jun 26 08:10:01 1996 > > Received: (from root@localhost) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) id IAA00596; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:10:01 -0700 (PDT) > > Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:10:01 -0700 (PDT) > > Message-Id: <199606261510.IAA00596@andrsn.stanford.edu> > > From: root (Cron Daemon) > > To: root > > Subject: Cron root /usr/libexec/atrun > > X-Cron-Env: > > X-Cron-Env: > > X-Cron-Env: > > X-Cron-Env: > > X-Cron-Env: > > > > root: not found > > > > I must have something set wrong--any ideas? > > Looks like you got an entry from /etc/crontab into root's cron file in the > spool area. The spool area cron files don't have a username as item right > before the command but /etc/crontab does. You probably want to do a > 'crontab -e' to edit the spool area cron file to remove the "root"...or > remove that line altogether since it might already be in /etc/crontab. I found /var/cron/tabs/root, which is apparently the "real" file. I took out a line I'd added, using crontab to edit and reinstall, and rebooted, but this does not help. This is the only file in that directory. I can't find any "spool area" cron files. Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 13:29:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA08850 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.statsci.com ([198.145.127.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA08842 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from statsci.com by main.statsci.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0uZ1Cp-0005zyC; Wed, 26 Jun 96 13:28 PDT Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: Annelise Anderson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Message to Root Every 5 Minutes References: In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Jun 1996 12:57:37 -0700." Reply-to: scott@statsci.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:28:55 -0700 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Annelise Anderson wrote: > I found /var/cron/tabs/root, which is apparently the "real" file. I > took out a line I'd added, using crontab to edit and reinstall, and > rebooted, but this does not help. This is the only file in that directory. > I can't find any "spool area" cron files. The /var/cron/tabs/ directory is what I meant by "spool area" - on some systems that directory is called /var/spool/cron/... or /usr/spool/cron/... Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 Mathsoft (Data Analysis Products Div) 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 13:41:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA09921 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server.webmaster.com (server.webmaster.com [204.156.143.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09915 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mark ([204.156.143.132]) by server.webmaster.com (post.office MTA v1.9.1 ID# 0-11487) with SMTP id AAA188 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:36:51 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960626204329.00960580@server.webmaster.com> X-Sender: beau@server.webmaster.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:43:29 -0700 To: questions@freebsd.org From: beau@webmaster.com (Beau Giles) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk A few days ago I sent a message to this mailbox concerning some problems I am having installing FreeBSD on my 486. This was may question: >> I am attempting to load FreeBSD on a 486DX. I've created a boot >> floppy using boot.flp file. Upon booting the machine I get the standard >> expected message: >> >> >> FreeBSD BOOT @ 0x10000: 640/15360 k of memory >> Use hd(1,a)/kernel to boot sd0 when wd0 is also installed. >> Usage: [[fd(0,a)]/kernel][-abcCdhrsv] >> Use ? fro file list or press Enter for defaults >> >> Boot: >> >> After waiting a few seconds the machine reboots itself and the same screen >> appears again, and again, and again ... Using the ? option or the -c >> options has proved to be useless. In fact typing anything is useless, since >> pressing enter starts the process over again with no change. Could you >> please give me some help as to where to go next. The answer received from dwhtie@resnet.uoregon.edu was as follows: >Sounds like a corrupted floppy. > >Here is my mantra of the week: > >1) Did you use an ERROR-FREE floppy? >2) Did you ftp via BINARY mode? >3) Did you boot back to MS-DOS mode if running Win95? > >If any of these are "no", then rectify and try again. All of these solutions failed to correct my problem. Is there anything else I can do to correct this problem? -- Beau Giles beau@webmaster.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 13:54:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA10929 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from starfire.mn.org (root@starfire.skypoint.net [199.86.32.187]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA10916 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:54:18 -0700 (PDT) From: john@starfire.mn.org Received: (from john@localhost) by starfire.mn.org (8.6.12/1.1) id PAA17527 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:54:15 -0500 Message-Id: <199606262054.PAA17527@starfire.mn.org> Subject: mountd not registering with portmap on FreeBSD 2.1 multi-homed web server To: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:54:15 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We have a FreeBSD machine as our multihomed web server with about 300 aliased IP addresses. All of a sudden, we can't NFS mount things from it. Portmap is running, and rpcinfo -p shows its own service, but that's it. Mountd cannot register, and says so through syslog. I have stopped and started portmap and mountd several times, and we have rebooted three times (which we really hate to do because this is a production machine). I ran portmap -v -d and learned nothing. It spat out messages when rpcinfo queried it, but not when mountd was trying to connect. HELP??? (I don't subscribe to this list, so please include my explicitly in replies...) John Lind, Starfire Consulting Services E-mail: john@starfire.MN.ORG USnail: PO Box 17247, Mpls MN 55417 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 14:02:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA11776 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.dsu.edu (ghelmer@alpha.dsu.edu [138.247.32.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA11760 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ghelmer@localhost) by alpha.dsu.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA24801; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:02:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:02:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Guy Helmer To: Annelise Anderson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Message to Root Every 5 Minutes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Annelise Anderson wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Scott Blachowicz wrote: > > > Annelise Anderson wrote: > > > > > I'm getting the following message sent every five minutes--it ends > > > up in /var/mail/root: > > > [...] > > > root: not found > > > > > > I must have something set wrong--any ideas? > > > > Looks like you got an entry from /etc/crontab into root's cron file in the > > spool area. The spool area cron files don't have a username as item right > > before the command but /etc/crontab does. You probably want to do a > > 'crontab -e' to edit the spool area cron file to remove the "root"...or > > remove that line altogether since it might already be in /etc/crontab. > > I found /var/cron/tabs/root, which is apparently the "real" file. I > took out a line I'd added, using crontab to edit and reinstall, and > rebooted, but this does not help. This is the only file in that directory. > I can't find any "spool area" cron files. /etc/crontab is not meant to be installed via crontab(1) - it is special in two ways: it is automatically read by cron and it has a different format than individual user crontab files. If you have used crontab(1) to install /etc/crontab as root's crontab, you will get the message you mentioned above each time cron tries to run one of the commands because /etc/crontab is not in the same format as an individual user's crontab (see the man page for crontab(5) for details of the format on an individual user's crontab). So, if you make a change to /etc/crontab, *don't* use crontab(1) to put /etc/crontab into /var/cron/tabs. If you have done this, you can use "crontab -u root -r" to remove the installed copy (/var/cron/tabs/root) of /etc/crontab. It's confusing behavior... Guy Helmer, Dakota State University Computing Services - ghelmer@alpha.dsu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 14:15:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA12917 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from naughty.monkey.org ([141.211.26.102]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA12907 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dugsong@localhost) by naughty.monkey.org (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id RAA01696 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 17:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 17:15:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Douglas Song To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PAM support for FreeBSD? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is any work being done on supporting PAM (pluggable authentication modules) for FreeBSD? I would like to help out in the effort. More information on PAM is available from the OSF RFC 86.0. --- Douglas Song, one angry monkey. dugsong@monkey.org From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 14:19:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA13233 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA13222; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA29441; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:19:49 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:19:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Veggy Vinny To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Netscape Sound Support Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings everyone, I have a GUSMax and I was wondering how do I get sound support in Netscape Gold beta3.04. Thanks for any help in advance... Vince From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 14:20:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA13389 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ax433.mclink.it (ax433.mclink.it [192.106.166.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA13377 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp-190.mclink.it by ax433.mclink.it id aa11799; 26 Jun 96 23:20 CEST Message-ID: <31D1AA1B.2781E494@mclink.it> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 23:22:35 +0200 From: Marco Masotti X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org CC: mc7953@mclink.it Subject: RE: PPP Configuration... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Adrian Chew writes on Wed, 26 Jun 1996 >I've got user PPP configured on my system only to find out that ppp >wants a dstaddr (destination IP address) for -auto mode... is there >a way to work around this for dial-up PPP with dynamic IP addressing? My particular problem was that not only the address assigned to me always changed but also the ISP gateway did, each time connected. After a wee bit of repeated failures, carefully re-reading the man page (rather than the handbook actually), I managed using the notation that more loosely define an IP address: ifaddr xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/yy xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/yy where yy is the number bits significant in the IP address. So, 192.106.166.93/24 means any IP address in the range from 192.106.166.1 to 192.106.166.254, besides 192.106.166.93 of course. This way you can define a dynamic address, though still limited in a relatively wide specified range. Just in case: in my PPP config file I did not specify any defaultroute statement, add 0 0 HISADDR, or similar, because that tended to confuse the software. Say hello to everyone, Marco M. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 14:28:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA13847 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:28:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mistery.mcafee.com (jimd@mistery.mcafee.com [192.187.128.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA13839 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jimd@localhost) by mistery.mcafee.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA17024; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 14:41:32 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <201006262141.OAA17024@mistery.mcafee.com> Subject: Re: Boot Manager/ BSD on second disk (fwd) To: skrishna@cisco.com (Sridhar Krishnan) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 110 14:41:32 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, support@cdrom.com, kopti@seas.gwu.edu In-Reply-To: from "Sridhar Krishnan" at Jun 25, 96 12:05:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi BSD'ers, > > This is in response to my earlier posting re: booting FreeBSD off the > second hard disk. > > I have not recvd. much any solutions thus far. When I re-installed the > whole thing again, I got a message "root system is read-only" in a > dialog-box. Does anybody know what this means ? > > What I have found is the following: > > - If I install the BootEasy (during the sysinstall), the MBR is put on the > boot area of the second disk (because FreeBSD is on second disk ?). I > changed BIOS to look at second disk first for booting purposes, and I got > the F1- dos, F2- BSD prompt. F2 would boot fine from the hard disk but > would error with a > > panic: error in root (I don't recall the exact string). > > I have to try to use the fixit floppy to see if I can fsck the root system. > > I tried several options on the BIOS to "enable/disable" parameter > mapping etc. > > - The install diskette has an option to change the root file system at > the Boot: prompt. I tried -a flag, but it did not seem to work. > > TIA, > Sridhar Krishnan I've heard (but have not yet verified) that the LOADLIN.EXE program (written for Linux) will load FreeBSD kernels. Basically all you have to do is make a copy of your kernel to one of your DOS partitions (or a DOS floppy if it will fit) and install/configure LOADLIN.EXE (available at ftp://sunsite.unc.edu) After that you should be able to load FreeBSD using a DOS batch file. I've used LOADLIN for Linux -- and it's definitely easier and more flexible than LILO (their default boot loader) -- especially for multi-boot configurations. It can be use in a SHELL= directive in the CONFIG.SYS (using DOS 6.x+ and Win '95 multiple configuration options, or the old MBOOT.SYS), and it can deal with VCPI (memory managers like QEMM). Naturally loading *ix is a one way trip -- you have to reboot from Unix to get back to DOS. There is also an alternative OS boot loader listed in the web pages at http://www.freebsd.org. I don't remember the details and haven't used it. Jim Dennis, former System Administrator, McAfee Associates From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 14:36:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA14651 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lcp.nrl.navy.mil (fozzie.nrl.navy.mil [132.250.116.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA14627 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lcp.nrl.navy.mil (5.65/1.35) id AA27851; Wed, 26 Jun 96 17:35:43 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 96 17:35:43 -0400 From: zielke@lcp.nrl.navy.mil (David Zielke) Message-Id: <9606262135.AA27851@lcp.nrl.navy.mil> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: "everything" vs "piecemeal" installations. Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As my network connection is somewhat unstable I have not been successful in having it stay available long enough to do a "everything" install, the question is if I select the options to install one by one the options in /stand/sysinstall will I get all that I would get with the "everything" option in the distributions menu? Thanks. David Zielke zielke@lcp.nrl.navy.mil From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 14:42:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA15845 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mistery.mcafee.com (jimd@mistery.mcafee.com [192.187.128.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA15820 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:42:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jimd@localhost) by mistery.mcafee.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA17044; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 14:56:04 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <201006262156.OAA17044@mistery.mcafee.com> Subject: Re: major domo or something els (fwd) To: support@cdrom.com (Jamil Weatherbee) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 110 14:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Jamil Weatherbee" at Jun 25, 96 10:33:22 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Technical Support > Walnut Creek CDROM > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 06:16:12 -0500 (CDT) > From: michael dorin > To: support@cdrom.com > Subject: major domo or something els > > I have a new FreeBSD question I hope you can answer. > I would like to have an automated list server, like majordomo. > I can't seam to get it to build. > > Is there a mailing list problem on BSD already that I could > be using? I don't know about 'majordomo' under FreeBSD -- though I've built and installed it under Solaris and Linux. I suspect that you'll want to make sure that you have PERL 4.x installed (I don't think it's been updated for PERL 5). Personally I like SmartList much better (written by the author of the 'procmail' suite -- it is largely built over it). It seems to cause less CPU load than majordomo -- and is reputed to have much better bounce and exception handling than most other packages (although listproc or listserv may still have the edge for *really* big mailing lists). As examples of SmartList's exception handling: When a pesky user sends subscribe/unsubscribe requests in their subject line and/or to the group rather than the "-request" address: Majordomo complains (in the first case) and blithely passes it to the list (in the latter). SmartList just handles it (in the first case) and handles it *with a warning message* in the latter. I don't know how majordomo handles situations where it's host is rebooted while processing a message over a large list. I've recently discovered that Smartlist keeps track and simply keeps going (I haven't even figured out how it's doing that yet). SmartList took me only about an hour to install and configure the first time I've used it. Majordomo took about a day. This may be an unfair comparison since I've learned quite a bit in the interim, and some of SmartList's configuration is very similar to Majordomo (especially the entries in the aliases file). > Thanks, > -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 14:49:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA17243 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA17219 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from batcave (sac-ca7-01.ix.netcom.com [204.31.229.33]) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA27533 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:48:30 -0700 Message-ID: <31D1AE91.1FB2@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:41:37 -0700 From: Demetri Ojeda Reply-To: dcojeda@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Hardware Compatibility List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I was trying to find a compiled list of compatible hardware for FreeBSD 2.x (dunno current release). Is there one available? If so, where is it? Demetri Ojeda dcojeda@ix.netcom.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 15:07:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA21132 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.Stanford.EDU (mailhub.Stanford.EDU [36.21.0.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21110 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by mailhub.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA18919; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:07:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Guy Helmer cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Message to Root Every 5 Minutes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > /etc/crontab is not meant to be installed via crontab(1) - it is special > in two ways: it is automatically read by cron and it has a different > format than individual user crontab files. If you have used crontab(1) to > install /etc/crontab as root's crontab, you will get the message you > mentioned above each time cron tries to run one of the commands because > /etc/crontab is not in the same format as an individual user's crontab > (see the man page for crontab(5) for details of the format on an > individual user's crontab). Well, there's only one crontab binary. And /etc/crontab is in a format identical to my old /etc/crontab in 2.0.5 (this is 2.1-STABLE) except for $id in a comment line. > > So, if you make a change to /etc/crontab, *don't* use crontab(1) to put > /etc/crontab into /var/cron/tabs. If you have done this, you can use > "crontab -u root -r" to remove the installed copy (/var/cron/tabs/root) of > /etc/crontab. I'm desperate enough to try anything right now. Thanks. Annelise > > It's confusing behavior... > > Guy Helmer, Dakota State University Computing Services - ghelmer@alpha.dsu.edu > > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 15:19:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA24064 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halon.barra.COM (halon.barra.com [144.203.11.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA24041 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:19:45 -0700 (PDT) From: William.Ying@ccgate.Barra.COM Received: from lazarus.barra.COM (root@[144.203.13.57]) by halon.barra.COM (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id PAA13093; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:21:22 -0700 Received: from ccgate.barra.com (ccgate.barra.com [144.203.4.245]) by lazarus.barra.COM (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id PAA23660; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:19:37 -0700 Received: from cc:Mail by ccgate.barra.com id AA835827709; Wed, 26 Jun 96 15:11:38 PST Date: Wed, 26 Jun 96 15:11:38 PST Message-Id: <9605268358.AA835827709@ccgate.barra.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org, beau@webmaster.com (Beau Giles) Subject: Re: "Reboot ... Reboot ... Reboot" - please add a subject Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It could be helpful if you format the diskette and run rawrite.exe under real MS-DOS. The problem could be caused by using a DOS emulator ( like command prompt from NT ). Try to find a machine with real MS-DOS 6.22 and create the boot diskette. I am not sure if the command prompt from 95, OS/2 or even IBM-DOS 6.3 will cause the problem. Please let me know if anybody has that experience. - Bill - ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Author: beau@webmaster.com (Beau Giles) at UNIXGATE Date: 6/26/96 2:20 PM A few days ago I sent a message to this mailbox concerning some problems I am having installing FreeBSD on my 486. This was may question: >> I am attempting to load FreeBSD on a 486DX. I've created a boot >> floppy using boot.flp file. Upon booting the machine I get the standard >> expected message: >> >> >> FreeBSD BOOT @ 0x10000: 640/15360 k of memory >> Use hd(1,a)/kernel to boot sd0 when wd0 is also installed. >> Usage: [[fd(0,a)]/kernel][-abcCdhrsv] >> Use ? fro file list or press Enter for defaults >> >> Boot: >> >> After waiting a few seconds the machine reboots itself and the same screen >> appears again, and again, and again ... Using the ? option or the -c >> options has proved to be useless. In fact typing anything is useless, since >> pressing enter starts the process over again with no change. Could you >> please give me some help as to where to go next. The answer received from dwhtie@resnet.uoregon.edu was as follows: >Sounds like a corrupted floppy. > >Here is my mantra of the week: > >1) Did you use an ERROR-FREE floppy? >2) Did you ftp via BINARY mode? >3) Did you boot back to MS-DOS mode if running Win95? > >If any of these are "no", then rectify and try again. All of these solutions failed to correct my problem. Is there anything else I can do to correct this problem? -- Beau Giles beau@webmaster.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 15:32:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA27811 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from masternet.it (root@masternet.it [194.184.65.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA27789 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmarco.eclipse.org (ts1port14d.masternet.it [194.184.65.36]) by masternet.it (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA29446 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 23:30:19 +0200 Message-ID: <31D1D59E.41C67EA6@masternet.it> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:28:14 +0000 From: Gianmarco Giovannelli X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Strange idea on doing make world... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I was not able to do a make world in my laptop because new errors always jumped out ... So I do a rm -r src and copied all the /usr/src from another Freebsd box that had no problems in doing make world.... Then I do a simple make install from the new /usr/source and everything went fine ... Now I ask myself if I can do an optimization of this procedure... It seems to me not efficient to do 3 make world on 3 different machine ... What's happen if I create /usr/src as symlink at the /usr/src of the remote machine that does make world and then I do only make install on the other machines ? Obviusly all the 3 machines are running the same version of Freebsd May I do it ? -- Regards... +-------------------------------------+--------------------+ | Internet: gmarco@masternet.it | ,,, | | Internet: gmarco@nettuno.it | (o o) | | BIX : ggiovannelli@bix.com | ---oo0-(_)-0oo--- | | http://www.masternet.it/dsc/gmarco | Gianmarco | +-------------------------------------+--------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 15:36:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA28757 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.Clark.Net (mail.clark.net [168.143.0.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA28737 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clark.net (root@clark.net [168.143.0.7]) by mail.Clark.Net (8.7.3/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA22468; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:36:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from clark.net (markus@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clark.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA09188; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:36:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199606262236.SAA09188@clark.net> To: rchan@certicom.ca cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. BSDI? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Jun 1996 13:58:02 GMT." <31cfefb3.2175336@mailhost> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:36:06 -0400 From: Mark Plummer Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi, > > We are running freebsd from the walnut creek cd. We would like to move > to an O/S with more support such as BSDI or something else such as > SCO. In any case, does anyone know what the differences are between > freebsd and BSDI's BSD/OS? Can we run all the freebsd packages that > came with the walnut creek cd on a BSDI system? > > Thanks. sco support == no support. that'll be $300. (hey charging $300 per useless answer works for sco, i figure i'll try it...) markus -- Mark Plummer, markus@clark.net, +1 410 796 1272 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 15:41:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA29617 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jaring.my (jaring.my [192.228.128.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA29612 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp.jaring.my (j12.ptl6.jaring.my [161.142.1.218]) by jaring.my (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA21879; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 06:41:18 +0800 Message-Id: <199606262241.GAA21879@jaring.my> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Adrian Chew" Organization: Alternate Dimensions To: Nadav Eiron , questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 06:39:44 +800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Booting from wd2 fails... Reply-to: adrchew@pop.jaring.my Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 26 Jun 96 at 11:09, Nadav Eiron wrote: > Does boot gets wd1 and wd2 confused? > What should I do? Recompile the kernel, change this line, config kernel root on wd2 Full instructions on recompiling the kernel is in the FreeBSD online handbook and in Installing & Running FreeBSD from Walnut Creek. Hope that helps. --- Adrian Chew Email->adrchew@pop.jaring.my Alternate Dimensions Figure Skating World "Cutting Edge Web Designs" "Your Online Skating Source" http://turnpike.net/~adweb http://turnpike.net/~adweb/fsw http://pgp.ai.mit.edu/htbin/pks-extract-key.pl?op=get&search=0xD384F34 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 15:45:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA29992 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:45:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA29986 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA28228 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:43:46 -0700 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id af24948; 26 Jun 96 21:45 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id ab14581; 26 Jun 96 22:12 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA01563; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:05:32 GMT Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:05:32 GMT Message-Id: <199606261805.SAA01563@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: jrclark@netview.net CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <2.2.32.19960626085918.0091d080@netview.net> (message from John Clark on Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:57:17 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: system reports to root Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I used to really enjoy getting those system email reports to the root > account. For some reason they have stopped coming. Would anyone have any > idea why, what I did? I am not very good with cron so it is hard to say. The commands need to have their output piped into sendmail:- 0 2 * * * root /etc/daily 2>&1 | sendmail root 30 3 * * 6 root /etc/weekly 2>&1 | sendmail root 30 5 1 * * root /etc/monthly 2>&1 | sendmail root > While on this subject, should I enable this code? > > #find / ! -fstype local -a -prune -o \ > # \( -name '[#,]*' -o -name '.#*' -o -name a.out -o -name *.core \ > # -o -name '*.CKP' -o -name '.emacs_[0-9]*' \) \ > # -a -atime +3 -exec rm -f -- {} \; > > I am not at all sure what all it wants to prune! That sounds like a very good reason not to enable it! 8-) It's basically intended to clear out temporary files left behind by Emacs if it wasn't closed cleanly, core files and various other junk that tends to accumulate on disks. However, enabling it can open a security hole, which is why it's commented out by default. I believe 2.2-current's version of this file has a note before this code that explains this. I'd recommend leaving it well alone unless you know exactly what you're doing. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 15:46:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA00184 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.pacit.tas.gov.au (falcon.pacit.tas.gov.au [147.109.1.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00158 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sdd.pacit.tas.gov.au (sdd.pacit.tas.gov.AU [147.109.2.93]) by falcon.pacit.tas.gov.au (8.7.1/8.7) with SMTP id IAA05489 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:42:28 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960626225032.006b4828@147.109.1.8> X-Sender: sdd@147.109.1.8 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:50:32 +1000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Scott Donovan Subject: Intel Ether Express PCI support? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does FreeBSD support the new 10/100 Mbit intel PCI network cards? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 16:09:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA01480 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA01475 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp3.bcpl.lib.md.us by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA26877; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 19:09:14 +0500 Received: by ppp3.bcpl.lib.md.us with Microsoft Mail id <01BB6393.0517AA80@ppp3.bcpl.lib.md.us>; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 19:09:37 -0400 Message-Id: <01BB6393.0517AA80@ppp3.bcpl.lib.md.us> From: Anil John To: "'Greg Lehey'" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Compiling kernel for ATAPI CD-ROM error - fatal signal 11- what is it? Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 19:05:25 -0400 Encoding: 24 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greg Lehey[SMTP:grog@lemis.de] wrote: >Well, I'm not the most experienced in this area, so maybe somebody >else will come up with better ideas, but normally a SIGSEGV (signal >11) indicates memory problems. This could be main memory, or it could >be cache. Before you go out and buy a new motherboard and memory, >check the BIOS setup menus. Probably the best bet is to disable >cache, which will make the machine horribly slow, but if you can then >build your kernel, you'll know where the problem lies. If your BIOS >has memory refresh options, try slowing them down a bit. > It Worked!!!!. I disabled my cache and as you mentioned the machine was as slooow.. But I let it compile overnight and it went thru... Now my machine detects the CD Rom when I boot up.... >being able to access it. That won't work, of course. Is there some >pressing reason why you can't leave your ATAPI drive as the slave of >the master controller? > Not really. Just thought that I would leave that slot open if I wanted to add a hard disk at a later point. But for right now, I have the CD-ROM hanging off it. Thanks again for all of your help.... Anil From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 16:26:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA02466 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.Stanford.EDU (mailhub.Stanford.EDU [36.21.0.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA02461 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:26:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by mailhub.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA21663; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:26:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Guy Helmer cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Message to Root Every 5 Minutes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > So, if you make a change to /etc/crontab, *don't* use crontab(1) to put > /etc/crontab into /var/cron/tabs. If you have done this, you can use > "crontab -u root -r" to remove the installed copy (/var/cron/tabs/root) of > /etc/crontab. Thanks, this worked. I had though I was supposed to use crontab -u root -e to edit /etc/crontab, but instead I created a file in /var/cron/tabs of the wrong format. I've just edited /etc/crontab with vi and put what I want in there and it seems to be okay. My thanks to Scott Blachowicz, Jonathan Bresler, and Mike Murphy also. Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 16:54:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA03930 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server.webmaster.com (server.webmaster.com [204.156.143.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA03919 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mark ([204.156.143.132]) by server.webmaster.com (post.office MTA v1.9.1 ID# 0-11487) with SMTP id AAA84; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:49:25 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960626235609.0097bb88@server.webmaster.com> X-Sender: beau@server.webmaster.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:56:09 -0700 To: William.Ying@ccgate.Barra.COM From: beau@webmaster.com (Beau Giles) Subject: Re: "Reboot ... Reboot ... Reboot" - please add a subject Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Yes!! The boot now works. I was running rawrite under an NT DOS prompt. I did notice that rawrite wrote the floppy very quickly but didn't think that NT 3.51 was the source of the problem. Thanks a lot for solving my problem. You should probably add this to your installation notes. -- Beau Giles At 03:11 PM 6/26/96 PST, you wrote: >It could be helpful if you format the diskette and run rawrite.exe under real >MS-DOS. The problem could be caused by using a DOS emulator ( like command >prompt from NT ). Try to find a machine with real MS-DOS 6.22 and create the >boot diskette. I am not sure if the command prompt from 95, OS/2 or even >IBM-DOS 6.3 will cause the problem. Please let me know if anybody has that >experience. > >- Bill - > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Subject: >Author: beau@webmaster.com (Beau Giles) at UNIXGATE >Date: 6/26/96 2:20 PM > > > A few days ago I sent a message to this mailbox concerning some >problems I am having installing FreeBSD on my 486. >This was may question: > >>> I am attempting to load FreeBSD on a 486DX. I've created a boot >>> floppy using boot.flp file. Upon booting the machine I get the standard >>> expected message: >>> >>> >> FreeBSD BOOT @ 0x10000: 640/15360 k of memory >>> Use hd(1,a)/kernel to boot sd0 when wd0 is also installed. >>> Usage: [[fd(0,a)]/kernel][-abcCdhrsv] >>> Use ? fro file list or press Enter for defaults >>> >>> Boot: >>> >>> After waiting a few seconds the machine reboots itself and the same screen >>> appears again, and again, and again ... Using the ? option or the -c >>> options has proved to be useless. In fact typing anything is useless, since >>> pressing enter starts the process over again with no change. Could you >>> please give me some help as to where to go next. > >The answer received from dwhtie@resnet.uoregon.edu was as follows: > >>Sounds like a corrupted floppy. >> >>Here is my mantra of the week: >> >>1) Did you use an ERROR-FREE floppy? >>2) Did you ftp via BINARY mode? >>3) Did you boot back to MS-DOS mode if running Win95? >> >>If any of these are "no", then rectify and try again. > >All of these solutions failed to correct my problem. Is there anything else >I can do to correct this problem? > > > > -- Beau Giles > beau@webmaster.com > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 17:04:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA04550 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 17:04:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.monmouth.com (pechter@shell.monmouth.com [205.164.220.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA04511 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 17:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pechter@localhost) by shell.monmouth.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA21815; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 19:58:59 -0400 From: Bill/Carolyn Pechter Message-Id: <199606262358.TAA21815@shell.monmouth.com> Subject: The crontab controversy To: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu (Annelise Anderson), freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 19:58:58 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-hackers@shell.monmouth.com In-Reply-To: from "Annelise Anderson" at Jun 26, 96 03:07:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > /etc/crontab is not meant to be installed via crontab(1) - it is special > > in two ways: it is automatically read by cron and it has a different > > format than individual user crontab files. > I'm desperate enough to try anything right now. Thanks. > > Annelise > > > > > > It's confusing behavior... > > > > Guy Helmer, Dakota State University Computing Services - ghelmer@alpha.dsu.edu > My fellow FreeBSD folks: It's time we took a stand. Isn't it time we abandon the two methods of handling crontabs.? I'm a fan of OS/x and Pyramid dual universe stuff (which I will add to Freebsd -- think universe bsd and universe gnu/linux) and EVEN I think ONE crontab method is enough for anyone. Should we: 1. Declare the ATT method the winner. 2. Declare the BSD method (the REAL original crontab) the winner. 3. Make the installation program remove one or the other at install (put /var/cront/tabs/root in with the same actions as /etc/crontab and have the install remove one or the other) 4. Ignore the problem and trap the users/admins? I'd support 1 or 3 and live with 2 (and hate 4) Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Pechter/Carolyn Pechter | 17 Meredith Drive, Tinton Falls, NJ 07724, 908-389-3592 | pechter@shell.monmouth.com I'll run Win95 on my box when you pry the keyboard from my cold, dead hands. FreeBSD, OS/2, CP/M, RT11, spoken here. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 17:21:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA07368 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 17:21:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.io.org (post.io.org [198.133.36.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA07329 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 17:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zap.io.org (taob@zap.io.org [198.133.36.81]) by post.io.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA07768 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:17:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:18:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Tao To: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS-L Subject: Filtering rules in syslog.conf Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a fairly simple requirement that I can't seem to get working with syslogd/syslog.conf. I would like all messages generated by a particular program to go to a particular file, and nowhere else. Is that possible? For example, this line will accomplish the first half of what I want: !telnetd *.* /var/log/telnetd.log The only problem is that the telnetd messages go to *both* /var/log/messages as well as /var/log/telnetd.log. How do I tell syslogd not to send to both? I know you can disable certain facilities with the "none" level, but that affects all messages, not just those coming from a particular program. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org, taob@ican.net) Systems and Network Administrator, Internet Canada Corp. "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 18:11:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA09781 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:11:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA09776 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA00549 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:10:48 -0700 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ab06038; 27 Jun 96 2:08 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa11006; 27 Jun 96 1:34 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA05341; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 23:30:39 GMT Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 23:30:39 GMT Message-Id: <199606262330.XAA05341@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: zielke@lcp.nrl.navy.mil CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <9606262135.AA27851@lcp.nrl.navy.mil> (zielke@lcp.nrl.navy.mil) Subject: Re: "everything" vs "piecemeal" installations. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > As my network connection is somewhat unstable I have not been successful > in having it stay available long enough to do a "everything" install, the > question is if I select the options to install one by one the options > in /stand/sysinstall will I get all that I would get with the "everything" > option in the distributions menu? You only need to select the "minimal installation" - everything else can be added later. (I used to do this when I had a wobbly CDROM). If you look in each of the directories under 'dists', they each have an install script called 'install.sh' that you can run by hand, once you've got all the .aa, .ab, ... files. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 18:14:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA09979 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.monmouth.com (pechter@shell.monmouth.com [205.164.220.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA09972 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pechter@localhost) by shell.monmouth.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA27426; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:09:11 -0400 From: Bill/Carolyn Pechter Message-Id: <199606270109.VAA27426@shell.monmouth.com> Subject: FreeBSD Rawrite and Windows NT To: beau@webmaster.com (Beau Giles) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:09:10 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960626235609.0097bb88@server.webmaster.com> from "Beau Giles" at Jun 26, 96 04:56:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Yes!! The boot now works. > > I was running rawrite under an NT DOS prompt. I did notice that > rawrite wrote the floppy very quickly but didn't think that NT 3.51 was the > source of the problem. Thanks a lot for solving my problem. You should > probably add this to your installation notes. > > -- Beau Giles > > > > > At 03:11 PM 6/26/96 PST, you wrote: > >It could be helpful if you format the diskette and run rawrite.exe under real > >MS-DOS. The problem could be caused by using a DOS emulator ( like command > >prompt from NT ). Try to find a machine with real MS-DOS 6.22 and create the > >boot diskette. I am not sure if the command prompt from 95, OS/2 or even > >IBM-DOS 6.3 will cause the problem. Please let me know if anybody has that > >experience. > > > >- Bill - OS/2 2.x and Warp won't handle rawrite1.2 correctly... I seem to remember a "DMA across 64k boundary error." I'm not sure, but I think 1.3 may work... PCDOS 6.x and 7.x work OK... Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 18:23:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA10573 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA10563 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yu.rogidi.com ([206.130.183.72]) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA24943 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:22:56 -0700 Received: (from pyu@localhost) by yu.rogidi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00232; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:14:37 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:14:37 -0400 Message-Id: <199606270114.VAA00232@yu.rogidi.com> To: Gul@ngonet.be Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Does *anyone* know where the iijppp docs are? In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 25 Jun 1996 21:21:24 +0200. <31D03C34.4AC3@ngonet.be> From: pyu@rogidi.com (Patrick Hong Kin Yu) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.19] 1995-07/21(Fri) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <31D03C34.4AC3@ngonet.be> Gul@ngonet.be writes: > Subject says it all. > My ppp still doesn't work all the time and I'm getting > desperate :-( While ftp-ing the mailagent ports, I found some docs on iijppp somewhere under ftp://tky007.tth.expo96.ad.jp/pub/ -- Patrick Hong Kin Yu / 'E 1d 07 \ Toronto, Canada pyu@rogidi.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 18:44:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA11749 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts16-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.213]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA11731 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA00239; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:44:32 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:44:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Yingjun (Ian) He" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199606232301.QAA00348@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 23 Jun 1996, Yingjun (Ian) He wrote: > I am running FreeBSD2.1 with X-window. How can I get the graphics login window > instead of the text mode login prompt when I boot up the system or when I > logout? Have xdm start when your system boots. One way is to put it in /etc/ttys; the other is to start xdm from rc.local. Instructions for the first one are included in the install instructions for X I believe. I personally use the second method. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 18:52:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA12163 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:52:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts16-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.213]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA12151 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA00252; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:50:26 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:50:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: David Zielke cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "everything" vs "piecemeal" installations. In-Reply-To: <9606262135.AA27851@lcp.nrl.navy.mil> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, David Zielke wrote: > As my network connection is somewhat unstable I have not been successful > in having it stay available long enough to do a "everything" install, the > question is if I select the options to install one by one the options > in /stand/sysinstall will I get all that I would get with the "everything" > option in the distributions menu? I don't quite understand what you mean by "one-by-one". Running sysinstall multiple times is not such a great idea. I would be looking at another install method right about now :-) Or, install the bin distribution (this will get you a basic system) then install the other distributions manually. The bin distribution gives you enough to do a dial-up connection (ppp or slip) and then you can ftp the distributions and install them like so: cat dist.* | tar xvzf - Just make sure you're in the right place. tar's 't' option is view, you can use that and figure out where you need to be. Or you can use the floppy install option. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 19:01:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA12504 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 19:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts16-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.213]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA12498 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 19:01:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA00265; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 19:01:27 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 19:01:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Mike K." cc: FreeBSD , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: arp_rtrequest: bad gateway value message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 23 Jun 1996, Mike K. wrote: > > > /kernel: arp_rtrequest: bad gateway value > > > > My guess is a broken routing table, probably from using routed. If you > > don't need dynamic routing then turn off routed in /etc/sysconfig. It > > saves a great many headaches, especially with broken routers. > > Can you define 'dynamic routing'? Not sure if I should be running routed > now :) Then you probably don't. Hard-configure your gateway in the 'defaultgateway' entry in /etc/sysconfig and set routed=NO. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 19:13:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA12904 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 19:13:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts16-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.213]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA12899 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 19:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA00365; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 19:13:16 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 19:13:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: John Goerzen cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: CD-ROM driver bug -- causes system lockup! In-Reply-To: <199606241945.OAA00227@complete.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, John Goerzen wrote: > I recently bumped the eject button on my CD-ROM drive. Now I know that this > should not be done -- I should run umount first -- but anyway, I did it. I > realized my mistake, and quickly ran umount /cdrom (it was mounted on > /cdrom). At that point, the system locked up with a panic. > > My CD-ROM drive is a Sony CDU33A. > > Thanks for the help! I wouldn't call this a bug. I can make FreeBSD do strange things if I eject a floppy before unmounting it. Other CDs (like my Plextor 4plex+) lock the tray in. Your Sony doesn't support this it looks like. So in the future, avoid that eject button :-) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 19:14:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA12938 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 19:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts16-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.213]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA12933 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 19:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA00372; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 19:14:00 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 19:14:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: kenny@essutton.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cdrom please help! In-Reply-To: <199606252054.QAA27524@interport.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 25 Jun 1996 kenny@essutton.com wrote: > I haven't been able to install from the cdrom. I had to make up a > load of floppies and install the basic system that way. Would you > have any idea how I would go about configuring the cdrom after I've > installed the system? > > I have a NEC 2x cdrom (CDR-260) it's an IDE of course. The funny this > is that I can't figure out how to get it setup under boot: -c > verbose. The computer finds a secondary IDE controller at wdc1 > and port 260 irq 15. As far as I know this actually is the cdrom! > Ever if I remove it I can not get the cdrom to be recognized at that > adress and I'm sure that irq 15 & port 260 are correct. Can you > suggest anything? Use ATAPI.FLP for your boot floppy image. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 20:25:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA18116 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts8-line6.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.70]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA18052 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:24:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00427; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:24:46 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:24:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Chris Yates cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: DHCP server In-Reply-To: <31D14691.4749@bsd2.tinker.af.mil> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Chris Yates wrote: > Is there a DHCP server available for BSD 2.1? I have been testing > several BOOTP servers with DHCP extensions, but have not been entirely > pleased. I would prefer a full fledged DHCP server to provide the > functionality required on this project. Can you point me to a good > resource? There are a couple of DHCP servers in ports/net. the WIDE and IDN(sp?) versions are there. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 20:31:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA18849 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts8-line6.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.70]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA18843 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00444; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:31:34 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:31:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Demetri Ojeda cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Hardware Compatibility List In-Reply-To: <31D1AE91.1FB2@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Demetri Ojeda wrote: > I was trying to find a compiled list of compatible hardware for FreeBSD > 2.x (dunno current release). Is there one available? If so, where is > it? There is a list in the Handbook as well as the HARDWARE install doc. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 20:40:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA19472 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line3.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.152]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA19465 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00472; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:40:44 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:40:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Timothy Stoddard cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FTP In-Reply-To: <31CEA28B.1D00@achilles.k12.ar.us> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, Timothy Stoddard wrote: > I have purchaded the Walnut creek CD-ROM and mounted on a unix system. > When I try to load a new freeBSD system it loads the root image fine. > Then it says cannot find bin/bin.aa which is on the CD under > dists/bin/bin.aa Can a link be created somehow? Retrieving packages > from the CD works fine. Set the ftp mode on the installing machine to 'retry'. That will let sysinstall try some other paths, one of which is the cd's proper path. Make sure the CD is mounted under '/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/' though. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 20:42:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA19593 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line3.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.152]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA19583 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00479; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:42:13 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:42:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Dave Hummel cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTP install In-Reply-To: <31CF44C4.5AFB@mail.idt.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, Dave Hummel wrote: > I've had no touble prepping my system for FreeBSD, but I don't know > how to use the ppp software to download. When I ask for that option, it > send me to the ppp software....I've been instructed to type 'term' and it > says I'm in terminal mode and gives me a ppp> prompt. What dialup > commands can I use to activate my modem? AT commamds?( I'm UNIX > illiterate), Dave When you type 'term' you should be online with your modem, ie you type AT you get OK back. Then use atdt xxxyyyy, and login and start a ppp session with your provider. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 20:48:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA20148 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line3.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.152]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA20133 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00489; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:48:55 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:48:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Ping Mai cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HELP: mounting root from 2nd partition of scsi disk In-Reply-To: <199606251428.HAA22243@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 25 Jun 1996, Ping Mai wrote: > I am having problem boot fbsd from the 2nd partition of my first scsi > disk. This is an 486 system with an IDE drive. the scsi disk is on an > adaptec 2842, scsi id 4. I compiled the kernel with "root on sd0b", > did a fbsdboot -rD c:\kernel, it went through and probed the scsi > controller and disk, then it complained about not being able to mount > root, then it panic. I am using FreeBSD-2.4-stable which I downloaded > end of May. Can anyone tell me what I did wrong? Um, you told it that the kernel was on the swap partition. it should be "root on sd0" and that should be sufficient. > also, when I compile the kernel without "controller eisa0" and > "controller pci0", it does even look for 284x. why? doesn't or does? you need to turn off the device too; it'll probe anyway. I'm surprised it compiled without those options. Why would you want to do that. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 20:50:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA20361 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line3.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.152]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA20351 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:50:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00499; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:50:24 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:50:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Sandip Srivastava cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I access DOS partition from FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199606261758.NAA01905@ds1.gl.umbc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Sandip Srivastava wrote: > I want to access my DOS partition from FreeBSD, how do I do it? mount_msdos /dev/wd0f /mnt replace /dev/wd0f with your DOS partition Be careful, mount_msdos can destroy DOS partitions in some cases, especially if you used FIPS to make room for FreeBSD. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 20:56:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA20793 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line3.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.152]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA20785 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00509; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:56:28 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:56:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Beck Peccoz Amedeo cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: IPX In-Reply-To: <31D19982.41C67EA6@masternet.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Beck Peccoz Amedeo wrote: > Is anyone experienced with the IPX protocol under FreeBSD? > I'd like to know if it's possible to have a FreeBSD file server > seen by DOS clients using the IPX protocol. At present I'm using > TCP/IP & samba, but the TCP/IP under DOS is really unusable... I think someone just released a netware server for freebsd. Not sure though. You could also run SAMBA (windows network) which is over IPX. It depends on what client machine your DOS machine is using. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 20:58:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA20996 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line3.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.152]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA20964 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:58:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00516; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:57:57 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:57:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Iwan Leonardus cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: keyboard lock In-Reply-To: <31CE6E23.41C67EA6@indosat.net.id> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, Iwan Leonardus wrote: > I remember you said something about keyboard lock on certain type of mother board > when the kernel is configured for ps/2 mouse. I think it happened to > one of my computer. it is Micronic motherboard. Is there any solution yet? > > I tried to toggle the num lock key during system boot up after detecting the ps/2 > mouse, it seems ok, but if there is any other solution i like to know Put this in your kernel config: options PSM_NO_RESET or something like that. It's in the FAQ. Mr. Nate Williams has the full details. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 20:59:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA21055 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA21047 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id UAA01337 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:59:08 -0700 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id bi29383; 27 Jun 96 4:53 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa11015; 27 Jun 96 1:34 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA05333; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 23:25:54 GMT Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 23:25:54 GMT Message-Id: <199606262325.XAA05333@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: beau@webmaster.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <2.2.32.19960626204329.00960580@server.webmaster.com> (beau@webmaster.com) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >1) Did you use an ERROR-FREE floppy? More particularly, did you use a brand new floppy, straight out of the box, obtained from a reputable source? > >3) Did you boot back to MS-DOS mode if running Win95? Did you really reboot, not just shell out to DOS from within Win95? > All of these solutions failed to correct my problem. Is there anything else > I can do to correct this problem? Here's a couple more ideas, which may or may not help:- Try a less aggressive set of cache options in the BIOS. (NB make a note of the original ones before you start changing anything!) Did you create the boot floppy on the same machine you're installing to? Do you have any other machines you can try it out on? -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 21:03:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA21524 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line3.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.152]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA21518 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:03:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00526; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:03:34 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:03:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: JOHN cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mouse Systems Optical mouse - anyone? In-Reply-To: <01I6APHV54ZM8WWNKU@POMONA.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, JOHN wrote: > Has anyone had success in getting 3 button operation to work with Mouse Systems > Optical Mouse (formerly PC MOUSE 3)? With FreeBSD, it either does not work at > all, or only in two button mode (there is a switch on the button to go between > two button and three button modes). Thanks Is this for X? If so, then you need to change the mouse protocol type in /etc/XF86Config. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 21:11:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA21997 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line3.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.152]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA21991 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00540; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:10:47 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:10:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Sean Batson cc: James Raynard , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Offical Release of 2.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 23 Jun 1996, Sean Batson wrote: > You mean Mitsumi Atapi or another Atapi. The last thing I was told that I'll > have to wait until August before the new release is out, which should correct > the Mitsumi Atapi Problem. OK. There was one brand of CD that wouldn't talk to ATAPI, that must be the one. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 21:22:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA22869 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line3.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.152]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA22864 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00567; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:22:18 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:22:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Kenny cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.com Subject: Re: Re-install FreeBSD 2.1.0 Release In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960626182110.0068e0ec@ma.ultranet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Kenny wrote: > I would like to re-install FreeBSD 2.1.0 Release from the CD-ROM. My > original install was with floppies. Do I have to remove anything before I > re-install from the CD-ROM? The FreeBSD boot manager is installed on my > system. Thanks!!! Grab anything you want and use FDISK and delete the FreeBSD partition. The boot manager is OK. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 21:37:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA24764 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from complete.org (node2.moundridge.midusa.net [206.28.185.178]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA24749 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgoerzen@localhost) by complete.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA01103; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 23:36:48 -0500 (CDT) From: John Goerzen Message-Id: <199606270436.XAA01103@complete.org> Subject: Re: CD-ROM driver bug -- causes system lockup! To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 23:36:46 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from Doug White at "Jun 26, 96 07:13:15 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL19 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, John Goerzen wrote: > > > I recently bumped the eject button on my CD-ROM drive. Now I know that this > > should not be done -- I should run umount first -- but anyway, I did it. I > > realized my mistake, and quickly ran umount /cdrom (it was mounted on > > /cdrom). At that point, the system locked up with a panic. > > > > My CD-ROM drive is a Sony CDU33A. > > I wouldn't call this a bug. I can make FreeBSD do strange things if I > eject a floppy before unmounting it. I can perhaps understand it if other programs are trying to access it. But all I did is run umount, and it caused a panic. That's a bug. > Other CDs (like my Plextor 4plex+) lock the tray in. Your Sony doesn't > support this it looks like. Yes, the CD-ROM drive supports the lock feature. There are DOS programs to lock/unlock it. > So in the future, avoid that eject button :-) Guess I'll have to :-) -- John Goerzen | Turn your PC into a Workstation for FREE! Custom programming | Check out www.freebsd.org NOW! For free FreeBSD jgoerzen@complete.org | Unix shell access, 316-367-8490 with your modem. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 21:42:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA25839 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line3.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.152]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA25831 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00601; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:42:23 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:42:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: David Brockus cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Travan tape drives and FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, David Brockus wrote: > I have a few question about tape drives. I am interested in > buying a HP Colorado T4000s for use on a FreeBSD 2.0.5R machine, mainly > because it's not as expensive as a DAT drive. It's a SCSI-2 drive that > uses Travan 4 tapes. Does FreeBSD support SCSI-2 QIC > drives like the T4000s? Has anyone used this drive in their system? We have a similar Colorado QIC-3020-using SCSI tape and it works great. So I don't see why not. It's SCSI; that is a big help. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 21:44:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA26013 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line3.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.152]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA25999 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00608; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:44:03 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:44:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Brandon Gillespie cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating the MBR after Win95 is installed... In-Reply-To: <199606231919.NAA21200@tombstone.sunrem.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 23 Jun 1996, Brandon Gillespie wrote: > Earlier, I installed Win95, then I installed FreeBSD, and booting gave > me the booteasy boot manager. However, I recently re-installed Win95, > which clobbered the MBR and put back its own. How do I _just_ install > the booteasy back into the MBR? Grab the booteasy installation package out of /pub/FreeBSD/tools/dist on ftp.freebsd.org or in /tools on the CD. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 22:00:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA27204 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 22:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA27190 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 22:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id VAA01524 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:59:58 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id FAA02437; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 05:56:59 +0100 (BST) To: John Goerzen cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: CD-ROM driver bug -- causes system lockup! In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Jun 1996 23:36:46 CDT." <199606270436.XAA01103@complete.org> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 05:56:58 +0100 Message-ID: <2435.835851418@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Goerzen wrote in message ID <199606270436.XAA01103@complete.org>: > I can perhaps understand it if other programs are trying to access it. But > all I did is run umount, and it caused a panic. That's a bug. And it's probably the same bug that I have in the GNATS database already to do with ejected CDROMs (although in my case SCSI) and trying to unmount them. (kern/1204 I believe). My case is slightly different (a SCSI bus reset re-initialised the CDROM drive), but I've had the same happen when I had a FS mounted and then accidently clicked `Eject' in one of these fancy X CD players... Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 22:02:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA27430 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 22:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.igcom.net (dinosaur@terra.igcom.net [206.98.13.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA27414 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 22:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dinosaur@localhost) by terra.igcom.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) id AAA00952 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:02:10 -0500 (CDT) From: One Kosher Pickle Message-Id: <199606270502.AAA00952@terra.igcom.net> Subject: ro mount of root_device in single-user To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:02:10 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After being informed by the folks in #freebsd that the root_device, when booted in single-user mode, is supposed to be read-write, I have a question.. For some reason, when booting the kernel with the -s option (therefore booting single-user) my root_device is mounted as read-only. I can't figure out why...any idea what's wrong? Please send a CC to my address, for I am not positive that I'm subscribed to this list. Thanks.. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 22:16:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA28948 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 22:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA28881 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 22:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id GAA02498; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 06:13:16 +0100 (BST) To: One Kosher Pickle cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: ro mount of root_device in single-user In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:02:10 CDT." <199606270502.AAA00952@terra.igcom.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 06:13:15 +0100 Message-ID: <2496.835852395@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk One Kosher Pickle wrote in message ID <199606270502.AAA00952@terra.igcom.net>: > After being informed by the folks in #freebsd that the root_device, when > booted in single-user mode, is supposed to be read-write, I have a > question.. For some reason, when booting the kernel with the -s option > (therefore booting single-user) my root_device is mounted as read-only. I > can't figure out why...any idea what's wrong? The people on #freebsd were wrong! If you boot single user, root *IS* mounted read-only ... you have to do `mount -u /' to mount it r/w ... Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 22:51:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA02346 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 22:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from perseus.ultra.net (perseus.ultra.net [199.232.56.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA02331 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 22:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kbranco (kbranco@[146.115.57.7]) by perseus.ultra.net (8.7.4/dae0.6) with SMTP id BAA18198 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 01:51:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960627055423.006a76a0@ma.ultranet.com> X-Sender: kbranco@ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 01:54:23 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.com From: Kenny Subject: Xfree86 Distribution Directory Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At the mirror site ftp6.FreeBSD.ORG, in the /pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/XF86312 directory, there are two 30+ megabyte files, XF86-co.tgz and XF86-xc.tgz . What are they? I looked through the readme in the directory and did not find the answer. Thanks!!!!! From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 23:02:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA03350 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 23:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dub-img-6.compuserve.com (dub-img-6.compuserve.com [149.174.206.136]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA03343 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 23:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by dub-img-6.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id CAA12640; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 02:01:44 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 02:01:17 -0400 From: PenDragon NS Subject: FreeBSD Won't Boot To: "questions@freebsd.org questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <199606270201_MC1-595-2CE3@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-questions@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After using novice install and during the post-configuration, I recieved a "fatal error 11 caught! I'm dead!" message. I had to reboot. The kernel loads fine but once bootup begins querying daemons I get messages saying login, password, hostname, domain are bad or don't exist. At the end of it all, it keeps asking me to log in. Is there anyway to fix this without completely reinstaling? Any help you can give is will be greatly appreciated. Natasha "....Nobody knows the trouble I've seen...." From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 23:06:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA03535 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 23:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from albeniz.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (root@albeniz.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA03524 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 23:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: From bonus ([127.0.0.1]) By bonus With Smtp ; Thu, 27 Jun 96 16:05:24 +1000 From: Bagus Dewantara To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 16:05:23 +1000 Message-ID: <31D224A3.4F3@cse.unsw.edu.au> X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: want to run unix with pentium X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I want to run unix with pentium, how much this will cost me and what is the best configuration needed. Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 23:59:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA05842 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 23:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ketone.cmc.edu.tw (root@[140.128.61.184]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA05812 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 1996 23:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ketone.cmc.edu.tw ([140.128.61.244]) by ketone.cmc.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA00924 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:58:39 +0800 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960627065839.0067fed8@[140.128.61.184]> X-Sender: yushing@[140.128.61.184] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:58:39 +0800 To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: yushing Subject: ABOUT FREEBSD Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Is FreeBSD 2.1.0 free for business use? We are planning to use it to do the ISP. If it isn't free. How can we do, and we can use it to do the ISP? Thank for your answer. Good Luck. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 00:21:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA07145 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:21:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA06933 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA24213; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:14:00 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA14570; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:26:25 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199606270726.JAA14570@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: IPX To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:26:24 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: gea@masternet.it, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from Doug White at "Jun 26, 96 08:56:27 pm" Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk See below. > On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Beck Peccoz Amedeo wrote: > > > Is anyone experienced with the IPX protocol under FreeBSD? > > I'd like to know if it's possible to have a FreeBSD file server > > seen by DOS clients using the IPX protocol. At present I'm using > > TCP/IP & samba, but the TCP/IP under DOS is really unusable... > > I think someone just released a netware server for freebsd. Not sure though. > > You could also run SAMBA (windows network) which is over IPX. > > It depends on what client machine your DOS machine is using. > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de >From owner-freebsd-hackers@freefall.freebsd.org Sun Jun 2 21:06:09 1996 >Received: from sel1.zit.th-darmstadt.de (sel1.zit.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.63.11]) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA03053 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 21:06:08 +0200 >Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.4]) by sel1.zit.th-darmstadt.de (8.7.1/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA22152; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 21:00:28 +0200 (MET DST) >Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) > by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA03320; > Sun, 2 Jun 1996 11:43:53 -0700 (PDT) >Received: (from root@localhost) > by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA03309 > for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 11:43:51 -0700 (PDT) >Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) > by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA03300 > for ; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 11:43:49 -0700 (PDT) >Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA22632 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 11:42:56 -0700 (PDT) >To: hackers@freebsd.org >Subject: Did people know you could get demo versions of this now? >Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 11:42:55 -0700 >Message-ID: <22630.833740975@time.cdrom.com> >From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" >Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org >X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Precedence: bulk >Status: RO > >Just in case: > http://www.netcon.com/download/download.htm > >This is "novell server" software for FreeBSD, e.g. you run it and your >DOS/novell clients can mount whatever volumes the FreeBSD box sees >(since it's done in usermode) in the traditional Novell fashion. It >also has a terminal client, printer sharing, remote diagnostic console >support, the works. The demo version is free so, if you've got some >Novell clients lying around, check it out! :-) > > Jordan > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 00:29:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA07580 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:29:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA07575 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA24362; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:24:09 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA14595; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:36:33 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199606270736.JAA14595@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: Strange idea on doing make world... To: gmarco@masternet.it (Gianmarco Giovannelli) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:36:33 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31D1D59E.41C67EA6@masternet.it> from Gianmarco Giovannelli at "Jun 27, 96 00:28:14 am" Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I was not able to do a make world in my laptop because new errors always jumped out > ... So I do a rm -r src and copied all the /usr/src from another Freebsd box that had > no problems in doing make world.... > Then I do a simple make install from the new /usr/source and everything went fine ... > > Now I ask myself if I can do an optimization of this procedure... > It seems to me not efficient to do 3 make world on 3 different machine ... > > What's happen if I create /usr/src as symlink at the /usr/src of the remote machine > that does make world and then I do only make install on the other machines ? > > Obviusly all the 3 machines are running the same version of Freebsd > > May I do it ? I'm often doing the following: Make one machine an NFS server (the one that builds world). /etc/exports /usr -alldirs -maproot=0 your machine list On the clients mount server:/usr/src /usr/src mount server:/usr/obj /usr/obj and make install on the clients. > > > > -- > > Regards... > > +-------------------------------------+--------------------+ > | Internet: gmarco@masternet.it | ,,, | > | Internet: gmarco@nettuno.it | (o o) | > | BIX : ggiovannelli@bix.com | ---oo0-(_)-0oo--- | > | http://www.masternet.it/dsc/gmarco | Gianmarco | > +-------------------------------------+--------------------+ > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 00:34:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA07837 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA07832 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uZBb1-00011tC; Thu, 27 Jun 96 03:34 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: a talkd/write improvement I made Date: 27 Jun 1996 03:34:32 -0400 Lines: 23 Message-ID: <4qtdi8$gjd@twwells.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk One of the annoyances of talk is that it's all or nothing. If one has mesg y, anyone can talk to you; otherwise, no one can. So I modified talkd so that it checks a .talkrc file in one's home directory. A .talkrc might contain something like this: steph@cyberenet.net !*@cyberenet.net *@admin.cyberenet.net This means: allow steph@cyberenet.net to "talk"; forbid everyone else on that machine. Allow anyone at admin.cyberenet.net to talk; forbid everyone else. (It's using fnmatch(3).) This is all well and good, except that the write program can also be an annoyance. So I modified it, too. But there's a problem. While talkd runs as root and so can see anyone's .talkrc, write runs as the invoking user and if that user can't see the callee's .talkrc, write reverts to the default behavior, which is to allow the write. Anyway, if the FreeBSD people want the patches, I'll send them along. But if they want them, they probably should let me know how they want the above irregularity resolved.... From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 01:34:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA10131 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 01:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de [139.30.40.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA10118 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 01:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lkoeller@localhost) by odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA09896; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:33:24 +0200 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:33:24 +0200 From: Lars Koeller Message-Id: <199606270833.KAA09896@odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de> X-Face: nLQGe[[K51[{{[C\,BiQm[7]u1m{N>_\%nLBo4t@)CoZ}hK[W7DwX&V=}Wf#Qb,j:Jpj[(12r=b~:dYmh]fDf\, ]_frt6eM' dated: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:18:46 -0400 (EDT) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! > I have a fairly simple requirement that I can't seem to get > working with syslogd/syslog.conf. I would like all messages generated > by a particular program to go to a particular file, and nowhere else. > Is that possible? > > For example, this line will accomplish the first half of what I > want: > > !telnetd > *.* /var/log/telnetd.log > > The only problem is that the telnetd messages go to *both* > /var/log/messages as well as /var/log/telnetd.log. How do I tell > syslogd not to send to both? I know you can disable certain > facilities with the "none" level, but that affects all messages, not > just those coming from a particular program. I've had a similar problem some weeks ago, and the only solution was a modification of the source code. I wanted to use xntpd with a DCF-77 time code receiver, which had a lot of receiving errors during the day, each producing a log message. I changed the line openlog(cp, LOG_PID | LOG_NDELAY, LOG_NTP); to openlog(cp, LOG_PID | LOG_NDELAY, LOG_LOCAL0); and made the following line in /etc/syslog.conf *.err;kern.debug;auth.notice;mail.crit;local0.none /dev/console *.err;local0.none root *.notice;auth.debug;local0.none root *.alert;local0.none root *.emerg;local0.none * !xntpd *.* /var/log/xntpd and it works well. If you get another solution please let ne know! Regards Lars -- _________________________________________________________________________ Lars Köller Phone: +49 381/498-1665, Fax: -1667 University of Rostock E-Mail: Department of Physics Lars_Koeller@odie.physik2.Uni-Rostock.DE Universitätsplatz 3 Anonymous ftp: D-18051 Rostock (Germany) ftp://odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de/pub From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 02:31:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA13655 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 02:31:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA13642 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 02:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ac16112; 27 Jun 96 9:31 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id ab23703; 27 Jun 96 10:22 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA05880; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:48:35 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:48:35 GMT Message-Id: <199606270048.AAA05880@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: gmarco@masternet.it CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31D1D59E.41C67EA6@masternet.it> (message from Gianmarco Giovannelli on Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:28:14 +0000) Subject: Re: Strange idea on doing make world... Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > What's happen if I create /usr/src as symlink at the /usr/src of the remote machine > that does make world and then I do only make install on the other machines ? There's a flamewar^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H discussion about this on the -current list at the moment. Or something similar, anyway (I seem to have rather lost track of the argument). In the meantime, how about tar'ing up your new versions of /bin, /sbin, /usr/lib, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin (and any other directories I've overlooked) and extracting them on the other machines? -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 02:59:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA15142 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 02:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sili.adn.edu.ph (root@sili.adn.edu.ph [165.220.57.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA15116 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 02:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from info@localhost) by sili.adn.edu.ph (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA07361; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 13:58:59 +1000 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 13:58:59 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Information Help Desk To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: trouble for process to be terminated Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HI !!! What's the last resort besides rebooting after killing a process that still lives but is trying to exit? Thanks. -- jf From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 03:09:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA15812 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 03:09:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA15805 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 03:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id bc19044; 27 Jun 96 10:08 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa23680; 27 Jun 96 10:22 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA05888; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:51:52 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:51:52 GMT Message-Id: <199606270051.AAA05888@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: dcojeda@ix.netcom.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31D1AE91.1FB2@ix.netcom.com> (message from Demetri Ojeda on Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:41:37 -0700) Subject: Re: FreeBSD Hardware Compatibility List Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I was trying to find a compiled list of compatible hardware for FreeBSD > 2.x (dunno current release). Is there one available? If so, where is > it? 2.1.0 is the latest release, although 2.1.5 should be with us next month. If you look in the base directory of the release on the FTP site or CDROM, you will find a file called HARDWARE.TXT with the information you are looking for. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 03:41:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA17308 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 03:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eros.britain.eu.net (eros.Britain.EU.net [192.91.199.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA17302 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 03:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nadt.org.uk by eros.britain.eu.net with UUCP id ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:40:47 +0100 Received: from infodev (infodev.nadt.org.uk [194.155.224.205]) by charlie.nadt.org.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA08676 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:06:45 +0100 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:06:45 +0100 Posted-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:06:45 +0100 Message-Id: <199606271006.LAA08676@charlie.nadt.org.uk> X-Sender: robmel@mailhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: Robin Melville Subject: CERT advisory -- sperl Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear BSD people, A recent CERT advisory warns of vulnerability of "sperl" to attack which allows root access to any user on unices which support saved SUID and GUID. Is the GNU sperl ported to FreeBSD vulnerable in this way? Best regards Robin. -------------------------------------------------------- Robin Melville, Addiction & Forensic Information Service Nottingham Healthcare NHS Trust Vox: +44 (0)115 952 9478 Fax: +44 (0)115 952 9421 Email: robmel@nadt.org.uk WWW: http://www.innotts.co.uk/nadt/ -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 03:46:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA17419 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 03:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA17397 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 03:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA26780; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:41:06 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA15036; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:53:31 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199606271053.MAA15036@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: Strange idea on doing make world... To: fqueries@jraynard.demon.co.uk (James Raynard) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:53:30 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: gmarco@masternet.it, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606270048.AAA05880@jraynard.demon.co.uk> from James Raynard at "Jun 27, 96 00:48:35 am" Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > What's happen if I create /usr/src as symlink at the /usr/src of the remote machine > > that does make world and then I do only make install on the other machines ? > > There's a flamewar^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H discussion about this on the tsk, tsk, when backspace doesn't rub out :-) > -current list at the moment. Or something similar, anyway (I seem to > have rather lost track of the argument). > > In the meantime, how about tar'ing up your new versions of /bin, > /sbin, /usr/lib, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin (and any other directories I've > overlooked) and extracting them on the other machines? This only works if being careful at programs like tar, gzip, init, sh and other programs being 'in use' at the time you are doing the untaring. 'install' is safer on this. > > -- > James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland > james@jraynard.demon.co.uk > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 03:46:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA17441 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 03:46:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA17414 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 03:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uZEaR-000QivC; Thu, 27 Jun 96 12:46 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA20188; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:42:34 +0200 Message-Id: <199606271042.MAA20188@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: Compiling kernel for ATAPI CD-ROM error - fatal signal 11- what is it? To: ajohn@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (Anil John) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:42:34 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <01BB6393.0517AA80@ppp3.bcpl.lib.md.us> from "Anil John" at Jun 26, 96 07:05:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anil John writes: > > Greg Lehey[SMTP:grog@lemis.de] wrote: >> Well, I'm not the most experienced in this area, so maybe somebody >> else will come up with better ideas, but normally a SIGSEGV (signal >> 11) indicates memory problems. This could be main memory, or it could >> be cache. Before you go out and buy a new motherboard and memory, >> check the BIOS setup menus. Probably the best bet is to disable >> cache, which will make the machine horribly slow, but if you can then >> build your kernel, you'll know where the problem lies. If your BIOS >> has memory refresh options, try slowing them down a bit. >> > It Worked!!!!. I disabled my cache and as you mentioned the machine was as > slooow.. But I let it compile overnight and it went thru... Now my machine > detects the CD Rom when I boot up.... OK, you're not done yet. So it's pretty certain that you have a cache problem. Now you need to find out whether it's a hardware problem or incorrect configuration. Many BIOSes have cache burst configuration options (cache wait states, or burst configurations like 3-2-2-2 or 2-1-1-1 or some such). The cache is 128 bits wide, but the memory bus is only 32 bits wide, so it needs 4 cycles to transfer a cache line. The 3-2-2-2 means that the first transfer takes 3 bus cycles, and the following ones only 2. I'd guess that you have your cache set up for too few cycles. This is very difficult to write about without seeing the configuration menus, but maybe you can go into the BIOS configuration and take a look. It'll be in a menu called "Advanced Setup Options" or "Advanced Chipset Options" or some such. >> being able to access it. That won't work, of course. Is there some >> pressing reason why you can't leave your ATAPI drive as the slave of >> the master controller? >> > Not really. Just thought that I would leave that slot open if I wanted to > add a hard disk at a later point. But for right now, I have the CD-ROM > hanging off it. OK, if you get a new disk, you can always put that on the slave controller. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 03:59:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA17717 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 03:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA17712 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 03:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sili.adn.edu.ph (root@sili.adn.edu.ph [165.220.57.2]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id DAA03368 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 03:59:22 -0700 Received: (from info@localhost) by sili.adn.edu.ph (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA07361; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 13:58:59 +1000 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 13:58:59 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Information Help Desk To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: trouble for process to be terminated Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HI !!! What's the last resort besides rebooting after killing a process that still lives but is trying to exit? Thanks. -- jf From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 06:11:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA23323 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 06:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from starfire.mn.org (root@starfire.skypoint.net [199.86.32.187]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA23318 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 06:10:58 -0700 (PDT) From: john@starfire.mn.org Received: (from john@localhost) by starfire.mn.org (8.6.12/1.1) id IAA19415 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:10:55 -0500 Message-Id: <199606271310.IAA19415@starfire.mn.org> Subject: Regarding CERT Advisory CA-96.12 - Vulnerability in suidperl To: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:10:54 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What is the full story on this for FreeBSD? I see that sperl/suidperl is installed both as part of the standard system and in the Perl 5 add-on packages. As I understand it, it is only used to try to work around some kernel race condition involving setuid and setgid scripts. Do we have that problem? Do we even need the sperl/suidperl pieces? Even though FreeBSD has been represented other CERT announcements, and even though Linux was still represented in this one, FreeBSD was not. Please include my e-mail address in your reply, as I do not subscribe to this list. John Lind, Starfire Consulting Services E-mail: john@starfire.MN.ORG USnail: PO Box 17247, Mpls MN 55417 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 06:32:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA23994 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 06:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (root@buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA23989 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 06:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA01410 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:32:36 GMT Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa26372; 27 Jun 96 9:34 EDT Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:34:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Hovey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Ditch suidperl and sperl fast! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I had a root incursion that we believe to be connected with the older perl suidperl and sperl programs - see the advisory at cert - and DITCH it if you dont need it! From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 07:02:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA27382 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 07:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from epprod.elsevier.co.uk (epprod.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA27364 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 07:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by epprod.elsevier.co.uk (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA14812 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:00:30 +0100 Received: from cadair.elsevier.co.uk (actually host cadair) by snowdon with SMTP (PP); Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:00:51 +0100 Received: (from dpr@localhost) by cadair.elsevier.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA14693; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:59:39 +0100 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:59:39 +0100 Message-Id: <199606271359.OAA14693@cadair.elsevier.co.uk> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Style guide Reply-To: p.richards@elsevier.co.uk From: Paul Richards X-Attribution: Paul X-Mailer: GNU Emacs [19.30.1], RMAIL, Mailcrypt [3.3] Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Where's the style guide? I thought there was a man page for it but I can't find it anywhere? From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 07:35:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA00891 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 07:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from watson.grauel.com (watson.grauel.com [199.233.104.36]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA00880 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 07:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparcmill.grauel.com (sparcmill.grauel.com [199.233.104.34]) by watson.grauel.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA02724; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:43:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by sparcmill.grauel.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA17453; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:34:08 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:34:08 -0500 From: rjk@sparcmill.grauel.com (Richard J Kuhns) Message-Id: <199606271434.JAA17453@sparcmill.grauel.com> To: Bill/Carolyn Pechter Cc: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu (Annelise Anderson), freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@shell.monmouth.com Subject: The crontab controversy In-Reply-To: <199606262358.TAA21815@shell.monmouth.com> References: <199606262358.TAA21815@shell.monmouth.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk pechter@shell.monmouth.com writes: > > My fellow FreeBSD folks: > > > > It's time we took a stand. yes > Isn't it time we abandon the two methods of handling crontabs.? yes > I'm a fan of OS/x and Pyramid dual universe stuff (which I will add to > Freebsd -- think universe bsd and universe gnu/linux) and EVEN I think ONE > crontab method is enough for anyone. > > > Should we: > > 1. Declare the ATT method the winner. > 2. Declare the BSD method (the REAL original crontab) the winner. > 3. Make the installation program remove one or the other at install > (put /var/cront/tabs/root in with the same actions as /etc/crontab > and have the install remove one or the other) > 4. Ignore the problem and trap the users/admins? > In order of preference, 1 3 2 4. Method 1 (/var/cron/tabs/*) offers the greatest versatility and consistency; it's sole disadvantage, as far as I can see, is that it requires root to execute one additional commmand when changing the system crontab file: "crontab new_crontab". I'd even be willing to argue that this is a Good Thing. Furthermore, a crontab file is a crontab file is a crontab file. This makes it easier to write a script that (syntactically) verifies crontab files before installing them. -- Rich Kuhns rjk@grauel.com PO Box 6249 Tel: (317)477-6000 x319 100 Sawmill Road Lafayette, IN 47903 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 07:53:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA03288 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 07:53:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from croute.com (ishm2.croute.com [199.97.106.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA03278 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 07:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bldg1.croute.com by croute.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15169; Thu, 27 Jun 96 09:53:11 CDT Received: from COMPUROUTE/SpoolDir by bldg1.croute.com (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 27 Jun 96 9:52:50 +600 Received: from SpoolDir by COMPUROUTE (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 27 Jun 96 9:52:22 +600 From: "Larry Dolinar" Organization: CompuRoute, Inc. To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:52:14 +600 CDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: sendmail, routing, and port 25 dying slowly X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Larry Dolinar" X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <64A1FCB05AA@bldg1.croute.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Forgive me, but this doesn't apply entirely to FreeBSD (however I hope it may be the solution)... I'm using a Sun Sparc 2 (SunOS 4.1.3) for a relay host and local DNS. We also run 2 Novell networks. Here's the dreaded diagram: smtp ISP /\/\ Ascend P50 -------------- nw1 ----------- nw2 -------- 199.97.106.x private 38.234.83.x/24 The Ascend has static routes to the private net (192.168.2.x) and the subnetted class A (38.234.83.x). 'smtp' is on the 199.97.106.x net, and likewise has static routes, both through 'nw1' (not its host name) for the "private" and "38" networks; the "private" route accomodates contact from 'nw2' for mail originating from their network (via Mercury/Pegasus). These static routes became necessary because some VP type just had to run Netscape from the 38 network, a second "class C" that was given us by our ISP, long after the first class C (199) was acquired. At least, it seemed to fix the problem. There is a long-standing thing about Novell 3.12 fileservers and their TCP/IP routing as it comes "out of the box". If you use RIP, default routes are pretty much screwed (determined by order of the bind statements for the network cards). If you turn it off, a different approach (using their IPCONFIG) allows specifying static routes in a GATEWAYS file. There are other more esoteric approaches with NLSP and OSPF I've yet to tackle. This second approach (IPCONFIG) was used on 'nw1' and 'nw2' because the RIP approach doesn't really support netmasks (as it is, we had to add to /etc/networks and /etc/netmasks on the relay host to get Sun's routes to work). ping, ftp, Netscape, and (we thought) mail were fine. (audience shouts of: GET ON WITH IT! 8) Now to the problem: incoming mail on 'smtp' degrades gradually (apparently) as long as these static routes are installed on the smartmailer. Outgoing mail is fine, but port 25 response just gets more and more sluggish (verifiable by trying to telnet into port 25 from another host, even on the 199 network). Kill those routes to "private" and "38" and it wakes up again, pretty quickly. While all routes are installed, all parties can ping each other, and the outside, without incident. Perhaps this is a Sun problem with DNS, SMTP, and static routes to "non- standard" networks all on the same box. I'm considering resubscribing to sun-managers and posting this problem, though the traffic is pretty high and the tone borders on acidic. Does any of this sound familiar (the problem, that is)? I'm considering moving the SMTP functions to what will shortly be our FTP server (running 2.1.0-R), and perhaps leaving the DNS where it is. In reality both our primary and secondary name servers are with the ISP; what we're using locally seems more of a skeleton DNS. What I'm hoping is that with this SunOS version being pretty old, FreeBSD doesn't have this kind of problem and will make a workable alternative. Nonetheless it's tough troubleshooting things "in production", as most of you well know. For historical (and perhaps obvious) reasons, 'nw1' and 'nw2' aren't going away. Any insights provided are very welcome. I left out configuration files to keep the bandwidth down; hopefully this doesn't cloud the description of the problem too much. I'll be more than happy to provide them. thanks for listening, larry From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 08:11:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA05382 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.Clark.Net (mail.clark.net [168.143.0.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA05373 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clark.net (root@clark.net [168.143.0.7]) by mail.Clark.Net (8.7.3/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA24377 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:11:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from clark.net (markus@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clark.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id LAA21233 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:11:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199606271511.LAA21233@clark.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with 3C590 on 2.2-960612-SNAP Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:11:30 -0400 From: Mark Plummer Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From: Weldon S Godfrey 3 dude, I just went though the 3c590 problems with the very same snap, I kept on getting FIFO overruns with any mtu over 200, the driver is messed up because 3com slightly changed the spec of the 3c590 after initial release, from what I was told. I traded it in for an SMC PCI EtherPower and it works great. I did try the 3com on a 2.1.0 release machine and had the same problems. Since the SMC uses the de driver (it is the same digital chipset of about 10 PCI cards that has been supported well by FBSD for awhile. Get the SMC, its cheaper and it works VERY well. Notice that the vx driver isn't even running in multicast mode? Weldon On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Mark Plummer wrote: > > hello, > > i'm trying to set up 2.2-960612-SNAP as router using 3C590 PCI > cards, and i'm having a number of problems. the hardware platform > is a dell dimension XPS P133. the network performance of this setup > is horrendous when it decides to work at all. for small amounts of > data, it's actually pretty good (hard to measure for such small amounts, > but on the order of what i'd expect), but for anything over about 1kB > or maybe 1536 bytes, it's chancy as to whether it works at all. i'm > using ftp to do most of my testing, both as ftp hosted on this machine > and as ftp using this machine as a router. > > when i boot, the message i get on the ethernet cards is: > > vx0 <3Com 3c590 EtherLink III PCI> rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:15 > aui/bnc/utp[*BNC*] address 00:a0:24:59:da:e1 > Warning! Defective early revision adapter! > vx1 <3Com 3c590 EtherLink III PCI> rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:16 > aui/bnc/utp[*BNC*] address 00:a0:24:72:eb:ba > Warning! Defective early revision adapter! > > i looked in the source and found: > > /* > * Check for receive overrun anomaly in the first revision of the > * adapters. > */ > if(!(get_e(unit, EEPROM_SOFT_INFO_2) & NO_RX_OVN_ANOMALY)) { > printf("Warning! Defective early revision adapter!\n"); > } > > but these cards were purchased pretty recently. > > does anyone know where to get cards which do not suffer from this anomaly? > > does anyone know why performance on dos based machines aren't suffering > from the same problems? > > does anyone know if this is to be fixed before the main release of 2.2? > > does anyone have good experiences either with these cards (and what are > you doing right that i'm doing wrong) or with other pci ethernet cards > (i've heard that the SMC EtherPower cards are pretty good)? > > i'd appreciate any information and will answer further questions. thanks > > markus > > -- Mark Plummer, markus@clark.net, +1 410 796 1272 > ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 08:22:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA05931 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA05922 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-14.ime.net.148.231.206.in-addr.arpa [206.231.148.143]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA11122; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31D2A756.2761@ime.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:23:02 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: yushing CC: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ABOUT FREEBSD References: <1.5.4.32.19960627065839.0067fed8@[140.128.61.184]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk yushing wrote: > > Hi, > Is FreeBSD 2.1.0 free for business use? > We are planning to use it to do the ISP. > If it isn't free. How can we do, and we can use it to do the ISP? > Thank for your answer. > Good Luck. The name says it all: FreeBSD -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 08:22:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA05963 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mole.mole.org (marmot.mole.org [204.216.57.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA05904 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mole.mole.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA12004; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:20:59 GMT Received: from meerkat.mole.org(206.197.192.110) by mole.mole.org via smap (V1.3) id sma012001; Thu Jun 27 15:20:53 1996 Received: (from mrm@localhost) by meerkat.mole.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA20509; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:20:53 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:20:53 -0700 From: "M.R.Murphy" Message-Id: <199606271520.IAA20509@meerkat.mole.org> To: pechter@shell.monmouth.com, rjk@sparcmill.grauel.com Subject: Re: The crontab controversy Cc: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu, freebsd-hackers@shell.monmouth.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Should we: > > > > 1. Declare the ATT method the winner. > > 2. Declare the BSD method (the REAL original crontab) the winner. > > 3. Make the installation program remove one or the other at install > > (put /var/cront/tabs/root in with the same actions as /etc/crontab > > and have the install remove one or the other) > > 4. Ignore the problem and trap the users/admins? > > > > In order of preference, 1 3 2 4. > > Method 1 (/var/cron/tabs/*) offers the greatest versatility and > consistency; it's sole disadvantage, as far as I can see, is that it > requires root to execute one additional commmand when changing the system > crontab file: "crontab new_crontab". I'd even be willing to argue that > this is a Good Thing. Furthermore, a crontab file is a crontab file is a > crontab file. This makes it easier to write a script that (syntactically) > verifies crontab files before installing them. Before making such a decision, it might be a good thing to 1. man cron 2. man 1 crontab 3. man 5 crontab 4. cat /etc/crontab and understand the reasons that cron is now the way that it is. -- Mike Murphy mrm@Mole.ORG +1 619 598 5874 Better is the enemy of Good From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 08:38:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA06695 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cats.ucsc.edu (root@cats-po-1.UCSC.EDU [128.114.129.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA06689 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neutron.neutron.org by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id IAA23727; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:38:00 -0700 Message-ID: <31093D6C.167EB0E7@cats.ucsc.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 20:45:32 +0000 From: bill clarke Organization: dept of physics X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: linux-emu/netscape-v202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk dear freeBSD i am running FBSD 2.1R and have installed the 2.2 SNAP linux_lib (including libm.so.5.0.0 and libc.5.0.9; netscape v202 seems to want libm.so.4.6.27 and libc.so.4.7.27) after recompiling my kernel with the COMPAT_LINUX switch and loading linux_mod.o (with an approropriate script in rc.i386), (i even put a line in my /etc/profile as follows: RESOLV_HOST_CONF=/compat/linux/etc/host.conf ; export RESOLV_HOST_CONF and put my hosts file into /compat/linux/etc/hosts) well, (linux) netscape comes up, even the JAVA console comes up. i can browse my home page on my own server (slow), but when i fire up user PPP and try to browse the outside world here's what happens: (i get the messages on my xterm) /kernel:Linux-emul(201): syslog() not supported (BSD sigreturn) resolv+: "bind" is an invalid keyword resolv+: "hosts" is an invalid keyword and on tty0 where i logged into my PPP gateway i get many instances of Linux-emul(201): syslog() not supported (BSD sigreturn) (message repeats 835 times) all help is appreciated -neutron From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 09:07:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA07924 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA07919 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-14.ime.net.148.231.206.in-addr.arpa [206.231.148.143]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA14294; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:06:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31D2B1CC.3023@ime.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:07:40 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Beck Peccoz Amedeo CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPX References: <31D19982.41C67EA6@masternet.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Beck Peccoz Amedeo wrote: > > Please reply to me personally as I'm not subscribed to this > mailing list. > > Is anyone experienced with the IPX protocol under FreeBSD? > I'd like to know if it's possible to have a FreeBSD file server > seen by DOS clients using the IPX protocol. At present I'm using > TCP/IP & samba, but the TCP/IP under DOS is really unusable... > > Thank you > Welp, I am as well interested in such abilities, I have some that just flat won't give up dos for certian projects! John Hay is working on IPX/SPX code in the kernel. Here is a clip from my query to him. (Thanks John) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- It is in the FreeBSD-current tree, so you should be able to get it from any site that keep/mirror -current. It is only the IPX/SPX networking code in the kernel (sys/netipx) and a daemon (usr.sbin/IPXrouted) to exchange RIP/SAP info. So at the moment it is only usefull as a router, or if you want to write/port programs that use IPX. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The Linux folx are working on a package called LinWare (lwared-0.95) A clip from thier readme -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- OVERVIEW -------- This package contains LinWare server v0.95 beta and IPX router daemons v0.9. LinWare daemon implements a subset of NetWare Core Protocol (NCP) allowing users to access files on Linux system using NetWare client (e.g. from MS DOS). Aditionally IPX router daemons makes Linux to work as an IPX internetwork router conforming to the IPX Router Specification v1.10 (except IPX NetBIOS flood fill). -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- I have plans to _attempt_ porting LinWare to FreeBSD as soon as I can scrape up a bit of time. I wouldn't count on it though because I have never ported anything to Unix. Anybody willing to guide me?? I do know C in the Dos/Win world. It can't be that much different in FreeBSD.. :) -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 09:11:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA08096 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from watson.grauel.com (watson.grauel.com [199.233.104.36]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08085 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparcmill.grauel.com (sparcmill.grauel.com [199.233.104.34]) by watson.grauel.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA00427; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:19:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by sparcmill.grauel.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA18858; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:10:26 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:10:26 -0500 From: rjk@sparcmill.grauel.com (Richard J Kuhns) Message-Id: <199606271610.LAA18858@sparcmill.grauel.com> To: "M.R.Murphy" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The crontab controversy In-Reply-To: <199606271520.IAA20509@meerkat.mole.org> References: <199606271520.IAA20509@meerkat.mole.org> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk M. R. Murphy writes: > > > Should we: > > > > > > 1. Declare the ATT method the winner. > > > 2. Declare the BSD method (the REAL original crontab) the winner. > > > 3. Make the installation program remove one or the other at install > > > (put /var/cront/tabs/root in with the same actions as /etc/crontab > > > and have the install remove one or the other) > > > 4. Ignore the problem and trap the users/admins? > > > > > > > In order of preference, 1 3 2 4. > > > > Method 1 (/var/cron/tabs/*) offers the greatest versatility and > > consistency; it's sole disadvantage, as far as I can see, is that it > > requires root to execute one additional commmand when changing the system > > crontab file: "crontab new_crontab". I'd even be willing to argue that > > this is a Good Thing. Furthermore, a crontab file is a crontab file is a > > crontab file. This makes it easier to write a script that (syntactically) > > verifies crontab files before installing them. > > Before making such a decision, it might be a good thing to > > 1. man cron > 2. man 1 crontab > 3. man 5 crontab > 4. cat /etc/crontab > I've read them all. > and understand the reasons that cron is now the way that it is. So what are they? I still see NO reason for using 2 different formats by default, and the "/var/cron/tabs" method is more versatile than the monolithic "/etc/crontab" method. -- Rich Kuhns rjk@grauel.com PO Box 6249 Tel: (317)477-6000 x319 100 Sawmill Road Lafayette, IN 47903 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 09:20:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA08395 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.statsci.com ([198.145.127.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA08390 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from statsci.com by main.statsci.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0uZJnv-000609C; Thu, 27 Jun 96 09:20 PDT Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: Sandip Srivastava , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: How do I access DOS partition from FreeBSD? References: In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:50:23 -0700." Reply-to: scott@statsci.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:20:27 -0700 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Sandip Srivastava wrote: > > > I want to access my DOS partition from FreeBSD, how do I do it? > > mount_msdos /dev/wd0f /mnt replace /dev/wd0f with your DOS partition > > Be careful, mount_msdos can destroy DOS partitions in some cases, > especially if you used FIPS to make room for FreeBSD. Actually, there are cases where it destroys your _BSD_ partitions...like when I was first installing FreeBSD and trying to mount my DOS partitions. I gave up on that, preferring to wait for the msdosfs rewriting work that's in progress. If you don't need file system level access, you might checkout the mtools port that has commands to copy to/from a DOS file system (among other commands). So, you could access it without having to mount it and go through the msdosfs code. Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 Mathsoft (Data Analysis Products Div) 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 10:13:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA11397 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mole.mole.org (marmot.mole.org [204.216.57.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA11377 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:13:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mole.mole.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA12610; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:12:58 GMT Received: from meerkat.mole.org(206.197.192.110) by mole.mole.org via smap (V1.3) id sma012607; Thu Jun 27 17:12:46 1996 Received: (from mrm@localhost) by meerkat.mole.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA20736; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:12:46 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:12:46 -0700 From: "M.R.Murphy" Message-Id: <199606271712.KAA20736@meerkat.mole.org> To: mrm@mole.Mole.ORG, rjk@sparcmill.grauel.com Subject: Re: The crontab controversy Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Before making such a decision, it might be a good thing to > > > > 1. man cron > > 2. man 1 crontab > > 3. man 5 crontab > > 4. cat /etc/crontab > > > I've read them all. > > > and understand the reasons that cron is now the way that it is. > > So what are they? I still see NO reason for using 2 different formats by > default, and the "/var/cron/tabs" method is more versatile than the > monolithic "/etc/crontab" method. I suspect that most of the problems folks have with cron are caused by "I know how it works from past experience. I don't need to read the man pages for the FreeBSD stuff to see if there are differences. vi works, what more do I need?" The behavior of cron is documented; people have problems because they fail to RTFM. Not just with cron, BTW. So, that said, here are some reasons: 1. /etc/crontab can provide a common environment, including a common MAILTO in an easy to administer manner, 2. /etc/crontab provides for an override of the allow/deny facility associated with /var/spool/cron/tabs/* in an easy to administer manner, 3. /etc/crontab provides for easy administration of multiple user cron activity for a system maintainer. 4. /var/spool/cron/tabs/* provides, when used with an effective allow/deny policy, a facility that allows users to maintain their own cron activities without requiring intervention by the system administrator, saving effort. 5. The dual crontab scheme provides flexibility. Some like it one way, some like it another. Those who don't like /etc/crontab can remove it. Those who don't like /var/spool/cron/tabs don't need to use it and can make /usr/bin/crontab not executable. Don't just delete /var/spool/cron/tabs though. That makes cron get noisy in the log. 6. Together with an effective group membership policy, the manipulation of both /etc/crontab and /var/spool/cron/tabs/* can provide a powerful tool for the scheduling of periodic tasks. (That last one is the kind that goes behind a bullet on a slide shown by some marketeer :-) I would grant that some of us might still see NO reason for using 2 different formats by default, but some of us do, and those who don't like /etc/crontab can, as I mentioned above, delete it if they so choose. Change for the sake of change is ill-advised. -- Mike Murphy mrm@Mole.ORG +1 619 598 5874 Better is the enemy of Good From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 10:24:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA11884 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA11879 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA05227; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:22:57 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606271722.KAA05227@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: linux-emu/netscape-v202 To: wlclarke@cats.ucsc.edu (bill clarke) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:22:57 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <31093D6C.167EB0E7@cats.ucsc.edu> from "bill clarke" at Jan 26, 96 08:45:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > i am running FBSD 2.1R and have installed the 2.2 SNAP linux_lib > (including libm.so.5.0.0 and libc.5.0.9; netscape v202 > seems to want libm.so.4.6.27 and libc.so.4.7.27) > > after recompiling my kernel with the COMPAT_LINUX switch and loading > linux_mod.o (with an approropriate script in rc.i386), > > (i even put a line in my /etc/profile as follows: > RESOLV_HOST_CONF=/compat/linux/etc/host.conf ; export RESOLV_HOST_CONF > and put my hosts file into /compat/linux/etc/hosts) > > well, (linux) netscape comes up, even the JAVA console comes up. > > i can browse my home page on my own server (slow), but when i fire up > user PPP and try to browse the outside world here's what happens: > (i get the messages on my xterm) > > /kernel:Linux-emul(201): syslog() not supported (BSD sigreturn) > > resolv+: "bind" is an invalid keyword > resolv+: "hosts" is an invalid keyword > > and on tty0 where i logged into my PPP gateway i get many instances of > > Linux-emul(201): syslog() not supported (BSD sigreturn) > > (message repeats 835 times) > > all help is appreciated > > -neutron > > 1) Ignore the "syslog" messages, or update to -current and the -current Linux emulation, which "fixes" the Linux misimplementation of syslog. 2) To get rid of the bind problem, as root, type the following: echo "order bind,hosts" > /compat/linux/etc/host.conf cd "wherever Linux Netscape lives" mv netscape netscape.linux cat > netsacpe <; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA05241; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:27:40 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606271727.KAA05241@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: trouble for process to be terminated To: info@adn.edu.ph (Information Help Desk) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:27:39 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Information Help Desk" at Jun 27, 96 01:58:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > What's the last resort besides rebooting after killing a process > that still lives but is trying to exit? Use "ps" to determine the resource it is blocking on. The free up the resource. The _exit will complete, and the process will exit. Most likely, the process which forked the zombie process has not called "wait" like it should to reap the return value from the process exit. If the process is not able to call "wait", it should ingnore SIGCHLD to allow the process to be reaped automatically. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 10:33:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA12280 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12274 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA05255; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:32:05 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606271732.KAA05255@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: ABOUT FREEBSD To: yushing@140.128.61.184 (yushing) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:32:05 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19960627065839.0067fed8@[140.128.61.184]> from "yushing" at Jun 27, 96 02:58:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is FreeBSD 2.1.0 free for business use? Yes. Except for the GNU or similar components, you could compile it up yourself, sell a "Yushing BSD", and only have to mention the copyrights and authors in the manuals, unless you touted specific features in your advertising -- in which case, you would have to mention the authors of the features in the fine print at the bottom of the ad. > We are planning to use it to do the ISP. There are many people using it that way already. It works fine. There is a mailing list for ISP's you will probably ant to join; see www.freebsd.org or send the message "lists" to "majordomo@freebsd.org" for details. > If it isn't free. How can we do, and we can use it to do the ISP? N/A... it *is* free. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 10:37:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA12547 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12540 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:37:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA05271; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:36:55 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606271736.KAA05271@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: want to run unix with pentium To: s2147607@cse.unsw.edu.au (Bagus Dewantara) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:36:55 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <31D224A3.4F3@cse.unsw.edu.au> from "Bagus Dewantara" at Jun 27, 96 04:05:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I want to run unix with pentium, how much this will cost me and > what is the best configuration needed. UNIX is a registered trademark of whoever owns USL this week, exclusively licensed to X/Open. OS's that are feature-for-feature equivalent to UNIX can not legally use the trademark, and are called UNIX-like OS's. If you want to run a UNIX-like OS, like FreeBSD or NetBSD or OpenBSD Debian Linux or RedHat Linux or Caldera Linux or ... It will cost you either the download time (and no charge for the software) or a media charge for a CDROM (and no charge for the software). For pricing on BSDI's UNIX-like OS, or Solaris, or SCO UNIX, you'll have to contact them. In general, it's in excess of $1000, and may be as high as $12,000. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 10:41:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA12692 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12687 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:41:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id KAA05166 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:41:44 -0700 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ai11455; 27 Jun 96 18:39 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26504; 27 Jun 96 18:08 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA00740; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:42:01 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:42:01 GMT Message-Id: <199606271042.KAA00740@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: yushing@140.128.61.184 CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <1.5.4.32.19960627065839.0067fed8@[140.128.61.184]> (message from yushing on Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:58:39 +0800) Subject: Re: ABOUT FREEBSD Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is FreeBSD 2.1.0 free for business use? > We are planning to use it to do the ISP. > If it isn't free. How can we do, and we can use it to do the ISP? Yes, it is indeed free, for any kind of use, and is being used successfully by many ISPs throughout the world. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 11:04:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA14423 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from salsa.habaneros.com ([207.34.140.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA14410 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jalapeno.habaneros.com (jalapeno [207.34.140.98]) by salsa.habaneros.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA06647 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:51:11 -0700 Received: by jalapeno.habaneros.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BB6417.D12AF760@jalapeno.habaneros.com>; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:00:13 -0700 Message-ID: <01BB6417.D12AF760@jalapeno.habaneros.com> From: "Neil C. Jensen" To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: ccd & mirroring root partitions? Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:00:00 -0700 Encoding: 19 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is it possible to use ccd to mirror the root and other sys paritions? I am purchasing a new system and would like to have 2 x 2.1 GB mirrored drives. If one drive fails, I would like to be able to reboot and run from the other. What is the installation procedure for this?: 1. install freebsd on 1st disk 2. install ccd on 1st disk 3. copy contents of 1st disk to 2nd? voila? Finally, I plan on using Quantum Saturns (SCSI) - has anyone had any problems with these? Thanks in advance. Neil Jensen Habanero Studios Ltd. Vancouver, Canada From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 11:33:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA15718 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:33:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.Clark.Net (mail.clark.net [168.143.0.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA15709 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clark.net (root@clark.net [168.143.0.7]) by mail.Clark.Net (8.7.3/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA16088; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:33:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from clark.net (markus@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clark.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id OAA12933; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:33:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199606271833.OAA12933@clark.net> To: Terry Lambert cc: s2147607@cse.unsw.edu.au (Bagus Dewantara), questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: want to run unix with pentium In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:36:55 PDT." <199606271736.KAA05271@phaeton.artisoft.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:33:10 -0400 From: Mark Plummer Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I want to run unix with pentium, how much this will cost me and > > what is the best configuration needed. > > UNIX is a registered trademark of whoever owns USL this week, > exclusively licensed to X/Open. > speaking of which, who does own usl this week? last i heard novell sold it to sco (out of the frying pan...) markus -- Mark Plummer, markus@clark.net, +1 410 796 1272 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 11:43:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA16266 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA15978 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id az20614; 27 Jun 96 17:51 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26551; 27 Jun 96 18:08 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA00702; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:12:43 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:12:43 GMT Message-Id: <199606271012.KAA00702@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: kbranco@ma.ultranet.com CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.com In-reply-to: <2.2.32.19960627055423.006a76a0@ma.ultranet.com> (message from Kenny on Thu, 27 Jun 1996 01:54:23 -0400) Subject: Re: Xfree86 Distribution Directory Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > At the mirror site ftp6.FreeBSD.ORG, in the > /pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/XF86312 directory, there are two 30+ megabyte > files, XF86-co.tgz and XF86-xc.tgz . What are they? I looked through the > readme in the directory and did not find the answer. Thanks!!!!! Source code (for contributed programs and the X servers). -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 11:58:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA16938 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:58:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA16933; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:58:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA05600 ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:58:38 -0700 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ai21846; 27 Jun 96 18:23 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa27054; 27 Jun 96 18:09 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00863; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:26:42 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:26:42 GMT Message-Id: <199606271226.MAA00863@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: bill@twwells.com CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <4qtdi8$gjd@twwells.com> (bill@twwells.com) Subject: Re: a talkd/write improvement I made Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) writes: > > One of the annoyances of talk is that it's all or nothing. If one > has mesg y, anyone can talk to you; otherwise, no one can. So I > modified talkd so that it checks a .talkrc file in one's home > directory. A .talkrc might contain something like this: > steph@cyberenet.net > !*@cyberenet.net > *@admin.cyberenet.net > This means: allow steph@cyberenet.net to "talk"; forbid everyone > else on that machine. Allow anyone at admin.cyberenet.net to talk; > forbid everyone else. (It's using fnmatch(3).) Sounds useful. > This is all well and good, except that the write program can also > be an annoyance. So I modified it, too. But there's a problem. > While talkd runs as root and so can see anyone's .talkrc, write > runs as the invoking user and if that user can't see the callee's > .talkrc, write reverts to the default behavior, which is to allow > the write. How about *not* allowing the write if .talkrc exists but is unreadable? That way, I can make my .talkrc readable by a group that represents, for example, people working on the same project, and use it to filter them more selectively, while shutting everyone else out. If .talkrc does not exist, then allow the write (for compatibility with existing behaviour). > Anyway, if the FreeBSD people want the patches, I'll send them > along. But if they want them, they probably should let me know > how they want the above irregularity resolved.... Thanks for the offer. I've Cc'd this to freebsd-hackers to see if there are any other comments on this. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 12:05:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA17314 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sag.space.lockheed.com (sag.space.lockheed.com [192.68.162.134]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA17304 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:05:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by sag.space.lockheed.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/21Nov95-0423PM) id AA22055; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:05:00 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:05:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian N. Handy" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FTP connection Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hey folks, I've got an ftp problem I don't understand. On my FreeBSD box (running a relatively recent version of -current), when I anonymous ftp to one machine in particular I have problems seeing the directories on that machine. Specifically, when I try to get a file: 200 PORT command successful. 425 Can't build data connection: Cannot assign requested address. I asked the folks what kind of machine it was I was connecting to and the answer I got was "A Fast server", which I think means "Fast(tm)". I've never heard of it, I'm still working on that bit of information. At any rate, sometimes I can get onto this machine and see directories and such, other times I can't. It seems to work from other platforms. Can someone proffer some advice as to how to troubleshoot this? Thanks, Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 12:12:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA17588 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA17527 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ad20382; 27 Jun 96 17:45 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26587; 27 Jun 96 18:08 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA00720; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:25:22 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:25:22 GMT Message-Id: <199606271025.KAA00720@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: dinosaur@igcom.net CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199606270502.AAA00952@terra.igcom.net> (message from One Kosher Pickle on Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:02:10 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: ro mount of root_device in single-user Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > After being informed by the folks in #freebsd that the root_device, when > booted in single-user mode, is supposed to be read-write, I have a > question.. For some reason, when booting the kernel with the -s option > (therefore booting single-user) my root_device is mounted as read-only. I > can't figure out why...any idea what's wrong? No, this is how it should work. If something goes wrong during the boot process, the system will start up in single-user mode to give you a chance to fix it, and mounting the root partition read-only prevents it from being trashed by whatever's causing the problem. Not to mention the possibility of finger-slips by the sysadmin 8-) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 12:17:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA17908 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA17893 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id az20614; 27 Jun 96 17:51 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26551; 27 Jun 96 18:08 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA00702; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:12:43 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:12:43 GMT Message-Id: <199606271012.KAA00702@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: kbranco@ma.ultranet.com CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.com In-reply-to: <2.2.32.19960627055423.006a76a0@ma.ultranet.com> (message from Kenny on Thu, 27 Jun 1996 01:54:23 -0400) Subject: Re: Xfree86 Distribution Directory Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > At the mirror site ftp6.FreeBSD.ORG, in the > /pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/XF86312 directory, there are two 30+ megabyte > files, XF86-co.tgz and XF86-xc.tgz . What are they? I looked through the > readme in the directory and did not find the answer. Thanks!!!!! Source code (for contributed programs and the X servers). -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 12:21:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA18239 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA18234 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA14818 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:21:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Thu, 27 Jun 96 14:21 CDT Received: by mercury.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Thu, 27 Jun 96 14:21 CDT Message-Id: Subject: PCI probing behind bridge? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:21:11 -0500 (CDT) From: "Lars Jonas Olsson" Cc: jonas@mcs.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm testing a Pro-Log PIP10 computer with FreeBSD 2.1R. This is a PICMG passive backplane computer with Triton II chipset, onboard SCSI, and onboard DEC bridge. The passive backplane PCI bus is on the other side of the DEC chip and contains VGA and Matrox Meteor. The probe does not find the VGA and Meteor cards, only: pci0:0: Intel Corporation, device=0x1250, class=bridge (host) [no driver assigned] pci0:6: Digital Equipment Corporation, device=0x0021, class=bridge (pci) [no driver assigned] pci0:7: Intel Corporation, device=0x7000, class=bridge (isa) [no driver assigned] pci0:8: Adaptec, device=0x7078, class=storage (scsi) [no driver assigned] Is this a BIOS or FreeBSD problem? Am I likely to have better sucess with other FreeBSD version? Jonas From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 12:24:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA18413 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA18312 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ag26352; 27 Jun 96 19:20 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26910; 27 Jun 96 18:09 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00760; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:07:51 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:07:51 GMT Message-Id: <199606271107.LAA00760@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: PenDragon_NS@wow.com CC: QUESTIONS@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199606270201_MC1-595-2CE3@compuserve.com> (message from PenDragon NS on Thu, 27 Jun 1996 02:01:17 -0400) Subject: Re: FreeBSD Won't Boot Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > After using novice install and during the post-configuration, I > recieved a "fatal error 11 caught! I'm dead!" message. I had to > reboot. The kernel loads fine but once bootup begins querying daemons > I get messages saying login, password, hostname, domain are bad or > don't exist. At the end of it all, it keeps asking me to log in. Is > there anyway to fix this without completely reinstaling? If you didn't get as far as setting the machine's hostname before it crashed, sendmail will complain about it; if you didn't add any users, you will not be able to log in as those users, only as root. The "fatal error" message means that something (it's hard to say what) went badly wrong and caused an unrecoverable error, leaving you with only a partially installed system. Personally, I'd be inclined to start again, rather than taking any chances. BTW just a minor point, but could you press the return key every 70-72 characters? I've re-formatted your mail in my reply, but it arrived as a single very long line, which some people may have found difficult to read. Cheers! -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 12:45:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA19427 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line7.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.139]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA19422 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00274; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:45:10 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:45:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: PenDragon NS cc: "questions@freebsd.org questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD Won't Boot In-Reply-To: <199606270201_MC1-595-2CE3@compuserve.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Try to wrap your lines about about 70 characters or so. On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, PenDragon NS wrote: > After using novice install and during the post-configuration, I recieved a "fatal error 11 caught! I'm dead!" message. I had to reboot. The kernel loads fine but once bootup begins querying daemons I get messages saying login, password, hostname, domain are bad or don't exist. At the end of it all, it keeps asking me to log in. Is there anyway to fix this without completely reinstaling? Boots just fine. Some of the post-install may not have been completed, you'll have to go into /etc/sysconfig and make it match your config. The login prompt is totally normal. login as 'root', no password, and use 'adduser' to make an account for yourself, then use that and 'su' from here on out. (You'll have to add your new account to group 'wheel' and 'operator', you can do that from adduser) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 12:55:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA19848 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA19843 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA05928 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:55:05 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id UAA03579 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 20:51:34 +0100 (BST) Prev-Resent: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 20:51:33 +0100 Prev-Resent: "questions@freebsd.org " Received: from punt.demon.co.uk (punt.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.73]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with SMTP id UAA03384 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 20:32:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for gary@palmer.demon.co.uk id 835867380:25293:1; Thu, 27 Jun 96 10:23:00 BST Received: from ceres.brunel.ac.uk ([134.83.176.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa24849; 27 Jun 96 10:22 +0100 Received: from freefall.freebsd.org by ceres.brunel.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:21:27 +0100 Received: from nice.rz.fh-mannheim.de (nice.rz.fh-mannheim.de [141.19.1.75]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA13004 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 02:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from charon.zv.fh-mannheim.de (charon.zv.fh-mannheim.de [141.19.20.249]) by nice.rz.fh-mannheim.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA05922 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:21:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: From B10A/WORKQUEUE by charon.zv.fh-mannheim.de via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.960627111852.288; 27 Jun 96 11:19:44 -0100 Message-ID: From: "Herr E. Bostanci" To: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:18:50 GMT+0100 Subject: Delete users in FreeBSD X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Herr E. Bostanci" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23DE) Resent-To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 20:51:33 +0100 Resent-Message-ID: <3577.835905093@palmer.demon.co.uk> Resent-From: Gary Palmer Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, is there a command in FreeBSD Version 2.1 such as 'adduser' to delete added users? If there is no such command how it is possible to delete users with their all directories, files etc.?... Are there specific requirements in FreeBSD 2.1 to delete any users? Bye E. Bostanci ______________________________________________________________ Dipl.-Inform. (FH) Emin Bostanci Fachhochschule Mannheim Windeckstr. 110, 68163 Mannheim, Germany e-mail: emin@roxi.rz.fh-mannheim.de Tel.: +49 (0)621/292-6372 ______________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 12:59:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA20043 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA19924 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:57:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ac26974; 27 Jun 96 19:27 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26893; 27 Jun 96 18:09 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA00731; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:38:06 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:38:06 GMT Message-Id: <199606271038.KAA00731@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: s2147607@cse.unsw.edu.au CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31D224A3.4F3@cse.unsw.edu.au> (message from Bagus Dewantara on Thu, 27 Jun 1996 16:05:23 +1000) Subject: Re: want to run unix with pentium Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I want to run unix with pentium, how much this will cost me and Depends on the going rate for a Pentium where you live. 8-) FreeBSD is indeed free, though you may need to splash out a modest amount on a CDROM or on downloading it by FTP, if you use a modem. If you're strapped for cash, it will run quite acceptably on a 486 DX/2 or DX/4, which you can get fairly cheaply these days, leaving you with more to spend on extra RAM or a good fast disk; these may well have more impact on performance than CPU speed. It'll even run on a 386SX16 with 4MB of RAM, though this is probably not much fun to use interactively. > what is the best configuration needed. See "Jordan's picks" under http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 13:27:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA22194 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 13:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA22179 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 13:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA05733; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 13:26:06 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606272026.NAA05733@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: want to run unix with pentium To: markus@clark.net (Mark Plummer) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 13:26:06 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, s2147607@cse.unsw.edu.au, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199606271833.OAA12933@clark.net> from "Mark Plummer" at Jun 27, 96 02:33:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > UNIX is a registered trademark of whoever owns USL this week, > > exclusively licensed to X/Open. > > speaking of which, who does own usl this week? last i heard novell sold > it to sco (out of the frying pan...) SCO. I don't know the details of the transaction; if it wasn't a merger, USL owns the trademark again, and SCO is a holding company, otherwise SCO owns it. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 13:30:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA22456 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 13:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA22442 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 13:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA05768; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 13:29:34 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606272029.NAA05768@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: PCI probing behind bridge? To: jonas@mcs.com (Lars Jonas Olsson) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 13:29:34 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, jonas@mcs.net In-Reply-To: from "Lars Jonas Olsson" at Jun 27, 96 02:21:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm testing a Pro-Log PIP10 computer with FreeBSD 2.1R. This is a > PICMG passive backplane computer with Triton II chipset, onboard SCSI, > and onboard DEC bridge. The passive backplane PCI bus is on the other > side of the DEC chip and contains VGA and Matrox Meteor. The probe > does not find the VGA and Meteor cards, only: > > pci0:0: Intel Corporation, device=0x1250, class=bridge (host) [no driver assigned] > pci0:6: Digital Equipment Corporation, device=0x0021, class=bridge (pci) [no driver assigned] > pci0:7: Intel Corporation, device=0x7000, class=bridge (isa) [no driver assigned] > pci0:8: Adaptec, device=0x7078, class=storage (scsi) [no driver assigned] > > Is this a BIOS or FreeBSD problem? Am I likely to have better sucess > with other FreeBSD version? The BIOS configures the PCI at boot time. It is not necessary to assign a driver, it will "just work". But enough about you... tell us about this passive backplane system; we were just discussing this as an "ideal design" on the SMP list. 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 13:32:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA22687 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 13:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA22630 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 13:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uZNjC-00018xC; Thu, 27 Jun 96 16:31 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: Re: a talkd/write improvement I made Date: 27 Jun 1996 16:31:47 -0400 Lines: 36 Message-ID: <4qur3j$qr0@twwells.com> References: <4qtdi8$gjd@twwells.com> <199606271226.MAA00863@jraynard.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <199606271226.MAA00863@jraynard.demon.co.uk>, James Raynard wrote: : > This means: allow steph@cyberenet.net to "talk"; forbid everyone : > else on that machine. Allow anyone at admin.cyberenet.net to talk; : > forbid everyone else. (It's using fnmatch(3).) : Sounds useful. It is. I'm the head admin for an ISP and people are constantly annoying me about trivia. It goes from annoying to fingernail- on-blackboard when trivia is transmitted at the half-finger typing speed of most people. So I normally want talk off. But there are people who have legitimate need to talk to me and who can type fast enough to make it worthwhile, so sometimes I turn it on....and then get more annoying talks. I've been wanting a way to allow selective talks for a long time and when, last night, I decided I needed a programming break, as in "I'm a programmer, dammit, and I'd like to write the occasional program!", I decided to do it as a short project. : > This is all well and good, except that the write program can also : > be an annoyance. So I modified it, too. But there's a problem. : > While talkd runs as root and so can see anyone's .talkrc, write : > runs as the invoking user and if that user can't see the callee's : > .talkrc, write reverts to the default behavior, which is to allow : > the write. : : How about *not* allowing the write if .talkrc exists but is : unreadable? That way, I can make my .talkrc readable by a group that : represents, for example, people working on the same project, and use : it to filter them more selectively, while shutting everyone else out. That doesn't resolve the problem. The usual problem is people protecting their home directories. Then, I can't tell if they have a .talkrc. Also, your suggestion isn't going to do much for talkd.... From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 13:40:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA23625 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 13:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23620 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 13:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA02594 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 13:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 13:40:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamil Weatherbee To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD v2.1 install (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Technical Support Walnut Creek CDROM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:27:17 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Hieber To: support@cdrom.com Subject: FreeBSD v2.1 install Hello, I am interested in getting the FreeBSD 2.1 cd, but I have a question about the install. I have a pentium 100MhZ with 2 hd (1 gig and 300 MEG) with a soundblaster 16 with a scsii II port. I have a 6 speed NEC internal cdrom. Can I install the cd directly from this cdrom? If not, is there a workaround? Thanks for your help, Mark Hieber hiebmd01@holmes.ipfw.indiana.edu voice (219) 482-8586 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 14:00:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA25436 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:00:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA25427 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA06204 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 13:59:39 -0700 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ac26974; 27 Jun 96 19:27 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26893; 27 Jun 96 18:09 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA00731; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:38:06 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:38:06 GMT Message-Id: <199606271038.KAA00731@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: s2147607@cse.unsw.edu.au CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31D224A3.4F3@cse.unsw.edu.au> (message from Bagus Dewantara on Thu, 27 Jun 1996 16:05:23 +1000) Subject: Re: want to run unix with pentium Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I want to run unix with pentium, how much this will cost me and Depends on the going rate for a Pentium where you live. 8-) FreeBSD is indeed free, though you may need to splash out a modest amount on a CDROM or on downloading it by FTP, if you use a modem. If you're strapped for cash, it will run quite acceptably on a 486 DX/2 or DX/4, which you can get fairly cheaply these days, leaving you with more to spend on extra RAM or a good fast disk; these may well have more impact on performance than CPU speed. It'll even run on a 386SX16 with 4MB of RAM, though this is probably not much fun to use interactively. > what is the best configuration needed. See "Jordan's picks" under http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 14:02:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA25636 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA25631 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id OAA06231 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:02:13 -0700 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id aq14221; 27 Jun 96 21:54 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa00271; 27 Jun 96 21:00 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA05522; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:29:33 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:29:33 GMT Message-Id: <199606271729.RAA05522@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: info@adn.edu.ph CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Information Help Desk on Thu, 27 Jun 1996 13:58:59 +1000 (GMT+1000)) Subject: Re: trouble for process to be terminated Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > What's the last resort besides rebooting after killing a process > that still lives but is trying to exit? Are you referring to a "zombie" process - one where a child process exits before its parent and the parent doesn't clean up after it properly (by calling wait())? It's not as bad as it seems, as the process has actually exited, releasing all the memory it was using and closing any files it had open, etc. All it's taking up is an entry in the process table. On the other hand, it effectively reduces the number of processes you can run by one, and makes the ps output look untidy. This is usually the result of a programming mistake - or the parent may be blocking on a resource which never becomes available. Perhaps if you can post some details about which program causes the problem, and how it happens, we may be able to give a more helpful answer. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 14:07:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA25947 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA25939 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:07:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id af07125; 27 Jun 96 21:14 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa00318; 27 Jun 96 21:00 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA05551; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:44:55 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:44:55 GMT Message-Id: <199606271744.RAA05551@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de CC: gmarco@masternet.it, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199606271053.MAA15036@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> (kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de) Subject: Re: Strange idea on doing make world... Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > In the meantime, how about tar'ing up your new versions of /bin, > > /sbin, /usr/lib, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin (and any other directories I've > > overlooked) and extracting them on the other machines? > > This only works if being careful at programs like > > tar, gzip, init, sh and other programs being 'in use' at the time you are > doing the untaring. 'install' is safer on this. Good point. It should probably be done in single-user mode, possibly with the --unlink option to tar (this is how the DES stuff installs itself). Perhaps a better idea is to tar up the new /usr/obj directory, copy it over, untar it and run 'make install'. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 14:11:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA26232 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA26227 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA12063 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:10:51 -0700 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ao01204; 27 Jun 96 20:19 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa00213; 27 Jun 96 21:00 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA05508; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:12:07 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:12:07 GMT Message-Id: <199606271712.RAA05508@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: p.richards@elsevier.co.uk Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606271359.OAA14693@cadair.elsevier.co.uk> (message from Paul Richards on Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:59:39 +0100) Subject: Re: Style guide Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Paul Richards writes: > > Where's the style guide? I thought there was a man page for it but > I can't find it anywhere? It's in section 9, which is in -current (and -stable as well?) but not 2.1.0-RELEASE. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 14:13:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA26409 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:13:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA26404 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carrier.eng.umd.edu (carrier.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.188]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA10850; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:13:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by carrier.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA04697; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:13:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:13:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@carrier.eng.umd.edu To: Paul Richards cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Style guide In-Reply-To: <199606271359.OAA14693@cadair.elsevier.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Paul Richards wrote: > > Where's the style guide? I thought there was a man page for it but > I can't find it anywhere? man style (in section 9). > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 14:24:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA26968 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA26839 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ad29900; 27 Jun 96 20:07 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa00258; 27 Jun 96 21:00 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA05543; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:37:04 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:37:04 GMT Message-Id: <199606271737.RAA05543@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: robmel@nadt.org.uk CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199606271006.LAA08676@charlie.nadt.org.uk> (message from Robin Melville on Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:06:45 +0100) Subject: Re: CERT advisory -- sperl Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > A recent CERT advisory warns of vulnerability of "sperl" to attack which > allows root access to any user on unices which support saved SUID and GUID. > > Is the GNU sperl ported to FreeBSD vulnerable in this way? Yes. Either FTP down the appropriate file for -current or -stable, where it's been fixed, or install version 5.003 of Perl. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 14:50:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA29171 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from VNET.IBM.COM (vnet.ibm.com [199.171.26.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA29166 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ATLSER by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 2431; Thu, 27 Jun 96 17:49:39 EDT Received: by ATLSER (XAGENTA 4.0) id 0193; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:49:45 -0400 Received: by remailer.atlissc.ibm.com (OUTERMAI.CMD/2.1 by epc) id outermai.837 Received: from wposmtp.atlissc.ibm.com by remailer.atlissc.ibm.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0500; Thu, 27 Jun 96 17:48:10 -0700 Received: from ISSC-Message_Server by wposmtp.atlissc.ibm.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:47:42 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:47:13 -0400 From: "Larry Swift" To: tomhavbe@martin.luther.edu Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NT ported: take 2 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>> Benjamin Tomhave 06/13/96 06:40pm >>> >I apparently did not ask my question correctly. I am running Windows NT >3.51 Workstation. The file system is NTFS. I am fully aware that FreeBSD >and NetBSD are independent operating systems. Duh! Seeing as I'm running >FreeBSD on a machine already and am an administrator on several other >machines, I think I would know that. What my question was is whether or not >tere are any utils. similar to fips which will allow a non-destructive >partitioning of a harddrive w/ NTFS on it and then also I wanted to know if >anybody has had success porting an NTFS partition. Power Quest's Partition Magic Version claims to be able to do this. I have never cared to try tho. You can find their page at http://www.powerquest.com And no, I am in no way associated with PowerQuest. > >-ben > -LK Swift From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 15:08:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA01162 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clothos.candle.com (clothos.Candle.Com [204.217.194.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA01130 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:07:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phobos.Candle.Com by clothos.candle.com with SMTP id AA22662 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:07:51 -0700 Received: from smtpgwy.Candle.Com by phobos.Candle.Com with SMTP id AA25652 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:07:48 -0700 Received: from ccMail by SMTPGWY.CANDLE.COM (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA835913085; Thu, 27 Jun 96 17:59:07 PST Date: Thu, 27 Jun 96 17:59:07 PST From: "Robert Batten" Message-Id: <9605278359.AA835913085@SMTPGWY.CANDLE.COM> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Help! My previously docile Freebsd system has gone nuts! Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk To whom it may concern; I have had to reinstall Freebsd to my system after some files had become corrupted. When I first installed the 2.1 release to my PC-DOS system I encountered few problems that I could not readily attribute to operator error. The system ran fine for a period of 4 months until I corrupted some files by shutting down the server via tripping on the power cord! I accepted my fate and was prepared to reinstall from the CD-ROM just like before. I was not pleasantly surprised to discover that the install program, the exact same floppy boot disk that I used previously, failed to want to create a bootable image on my ide hard drive! In fact the exact message is as follows: WARNING! Unable to swap to /dev/wd0s1b: Device not configured. This may cause the installation to fail at some point if you don't have a lot of memory. Well, I have 16MB of RAM. I assume this was not enough because the following messages followed: Unable to make new root filesystem on /dev/rwd0a. and finally: Couldn't make filesystems properly. Aborting. ( As an aside, someone should have added: Have a nice Day!) So I am stuck. Where did I go wrong? Freebsd or Die...:=( R Batten S.E. Candle Corporation From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 15:23:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA01967 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:23:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA01960 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0uZPM1-0004sYC; Thu, 27 Jun 96 18:16 EDT Received: from elmer.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14732; Thu, 27 Jun 96 18:15:31 EDT Received: by elmer.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA15328; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 18:16:55 -0400 From: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Message-Id: <199606272216.SAA15328@elmer.picker.com> Subject: Re: How do I access DOS partition from FreeBSD? To: ssriva1@gl.umbc.edu (Sandip Srivastava) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 18:16:54 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606261758.NAA01905@ds1.gl.umbc.edu> from "Sandip Srivastava" at Jun 26, 96 01:58:39 pm Reply-To: rhh@ct.picker.com Organization: Picker International, CT Division X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I want to access my DOS partition from FreeBSD, how do I do it? Try this for accessing primary/extented partitions on the first and second IDE disks. You'll want to tune the drive letter assignments to your particular system. cd / mkdir c d e f cd /dev sh MAKEDEV wd0s5 sh MAKEDEV wd1s5 Add these lines to /etc/fstab: #/dev/wd0s1 /c msdos rw,-m775 0 0 /dev/wd0s1 /c msdos ro,-m555 0 0 /dev/wd1s1 /d msdos ro,-m555 0 0 /dev/wd0s5 /e msdos ro,-m555 0 0 /dev/wd1s5 /f msdos ro,-m555 0 0 Then just reboot and they'll be mounted each time. Note that this mounts them read only. If you prefer read/write access, use the permissions in the first (commented-out) line. For SCSI disks, use sd?s? instead of wd?s?. Randall Hopper rhh@ct.picker.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 15:44:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA03200 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elvis.kellysoftware.com (root@elvis.kellysoftware.com [206.20.234.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA03144 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magick.kellysoftware.com (magick.kellysoftware.com [206.20.234.131]) by elvis.kellysoftware.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA14297 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 18:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31D338FB.7B5E@kellysoftware.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 18:44:27 -0700 From: "Keith A. Fredericks" Organization: Kelly Music & Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ATI video problem? X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/hw.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have installed FreeBSD 2.1 from the CDROM on my Intel Atlantis motherboard-based Pentium 166 system. I had to plug another video card into the board however to avoid the integral ATI mach 64 video hardware throwing me into some bad video mode that I can't recover from. I installed with the JAZZ Jakarta board which uses a Tseng labs chipset. Now I would like to use the onboard video if I can. How can I avoid the apparent problem with the ATI hardware? Have I missed some hardware video configuration step? -keith -- Keith A. Fredericks keith@kellysoftware.com Kelly Music & Entertainment 630 Fifth Ave. Rockefeller Ctr. NY, NY 10020 800-50KELLY 212-332-2475 fax:212-332-2479 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 15:45:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA03329 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com (tombstone.sunrem.com [206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA03305 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA01090; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 16:45:08 -0600 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 16:45:07 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Phone Blaster 28.8 PnP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anybody ever used this in FreeBSD, it looks interesting and I am tempted to grab it, but my previous experience with a PnP modem and FreeBSD was not very satisfying. Basically, its several items all-in-one (A 28.8 Data/Fax Modem, a speakerphone and voice mail system, and a 16bit sound card). It is from Creative Labs, so I feel it wouldn't be too unreliable, but would FreeBSD be able to handle it, at least handle the sound and modem? -Brandon Gillespie From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 15:59:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA04628 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wireless.Stanford.EDU (wireless.Stanford.EDU [36.10.0.102]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04610 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lightning.Stanford.EDU (lightning.Stanford.EDU [36.191.0.130]) by wireless.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA18415 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31D31239.30D2@stanford.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:59:05 -0700 From: Bora Akyol Organization: Stanford University X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Why no DEC 21x4x driver on the boot.flp for the latest snapshot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Why is there no DE driver on the latest boot floppy for 2.2 Snapshot Thanks Bora From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 16:09:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA05299 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 16:09:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA05292 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 16:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA10574 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 16:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 16:09:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamil Weatherbee To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot Manager/ BSD on second disk (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Technical Support Walnut Creek CDROM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 26 Jun 110 14:41:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Dennis To: Sridhar Krishnan Cc: questions@freebsd.org, support@cdrom.com, kopti@seas.gwu.edu Subject: Re: Boot Manager/ BSD on second disk (fwd) > > Hi BSD'ers, > > This is in response to my earlier posting re: booting FreeBSD off the > second hard disk. > > I have not recvd. much any solutions thus far. When I re-installed the > whole thing again, I got a message "root system is read-only" in a > dialog-box. Does anybody know what this means ? > > What I have found is the following: > > - If I install the BootEasy (during the sysinstall), the MBR is put on the > boot area of the second disk (because FreeBSD is on second disk ?). I > changed BIOS to look at second disk first for booting purposes, and I got > the F1- dos, F2- BSD prompt. F2 would boot fine from the hard disk but > would error with a > > panic: error in root (I don't recall the exact string). > > I have to try to use the fixit floppy to see if I can fsck the root system. > > I tried several options on the BIOS to "enable/disable" parameter > mapping etc. > > - The install diskette has an option to change the root file system at > the Boot: prompt. I tried -a flag, but it did not seem to work. > > TIA, > Sridhar Krishnan I've heard (but have not yet verified) that the LOADLIN.EXE program (written for Linux) will load FreeBSD kernels. Basically all you have to do is make a copy of your kernel to one of your DOS partitions (or a DOS floppy if it will fit) and install/configure LOADLIN.EXE (available at ftp://sunsite.unc.edu) After that you should be able to load FreeBSD using a DOS batch file. I've used LOADLIN for Linux -- and it's definitely easier and more flexible than LILO (their default boot loader) -- especially for multi-boot configurations. It can be use in a SHELL= directive in the CONFIG.SYS (using DOS 6.x+ and Win '95 multiple configuration options, or the old MBOOT.SYS), and it can deal with VCPI (memory managers like QEMM). Naturally loading *ix is a one way trip -- you have to reboot from Unix to get back to DOS. There is also an alternative OS boot loader listed in the web pages at http://www.freebsd.org. I don't remember the details and haven't used it. Jim Dennis, former System Administrator, McAfee Associates From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 16:23:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA05909 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 16:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (flaq@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA05894 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 16:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA19747 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 18:23:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 18:23:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: CUSeeMe for FreeBSD? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know of a CUSeeMe client for FreeBSD and X? ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 16:57:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA08527 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 16:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08522 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 16:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp15.bcpl.lib.md.us by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA22304; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 19:57:16 +0500 Received: by ppp15.bcpl.lib.md.us with Microsoft Mail id <01BB6462.E7F53500@ppp15.bcpl.lib.md.us>; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 19:57:44 -0400 Message-Id: <01BB6462.E7F53500@ppp15.bcpl.lib.md.us> From: Anil John To: "'Greg Lehey'" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Compiling kernel for ATAPI CD-ROM error - fatal signal 11- what is it? Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 19:57:42 -0400 Encoding: 36 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greg Lehey[SMTP:grog@lemis.de] wrote: > >OK, you're not done yet. So it's pretty certain that you have a cache >problem. Now you need to find out whether it's a hardware problem or >incorrect configuration. Many BIOSes have cache burst configuration >options (cache wait states, or burst configurations like 3-2-2-2 or >2-1-1-1 or some such). The cache is 128 bits wide, but the memory bus >is only 32 bits wide, so it needs 4 cycles to transfer a cache line. >The 3-2-2-2 means that the first transfer takes 3 bus cycles, and the >following ones only 2. I'd guess that you have your cache set up for >too few cycles. > I know what you mean The above settings are in my BIOS on my other machine. But I have an old Award BIOS on my system and I do not know what the corresponding items are. The relevent options on it are (* marks what I had when I got errors): Decoupled Refresh: Enabled*/Disabled Relocate 256k/384k: Enabled*/Disabled Video BIOS Cacheble: Enabled/Disabled* System BIOS Cacheble: Enabled/Disabled* External cache scheme: Wr-Through*/Write-Back Combine Alter & Tag Bits: Enabled*/Disabled Memory hole at 15Mb Addr: Enabled/Disabled* Cache Timing Control: Normal/Fast/Turbo* DRAM Timing Control: Normal/Fast* Fast DRAM: Enabled*/Disabled Burst Write: Enabled/Disabled* CPU Write Back Cache: Enabled*/Disabled P24T Cache Replace BLAST: Enabled/Disabled* Any suggestions would be appreciated... Anil From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 17:06:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA08909 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cais.cais.com (cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA08903 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from babel (babel.cais.com [204.157.31.49]) by cais.cais.com (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA20544; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 20:06:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 20:04:39 +0000 () From: "Robert F. Abel" To: questions@FreeBSD.org cc: babel@cais.com Subject: Port of netscape3 problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1468465567-835905791=:1013" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1468465567-835905791=:1013 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII --0-1468465567-835905791=:1013 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=tech_sup Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: VHJ5aW5nIHRvIGdldCBuZXRzY2FwZTMgaW5zdGFsbGVkIHRvIG15IEZyZWVC U0Qgc3lzdGVtLg0KDQpkb3duZG9hZGVkOiAgbmV0c2NhcGUtdjMwYjQtZXhw b3J0LmkzODYtdW5rbm93bi1ic2QudGFyLmd6DQpmcm9tOiAgaHR0cDovL3d3 dy5lbmdzb2MuY2FybGV0b24uY2EvRG9jdW1lbnRhdGlvbi9JbnRlcm5ldC9u ZXRzY2FwZS5odG1sDQoNCmRvd25sb2FkZWQ6DQpwb3J0cyBzdHJ1Y3R1cmU6 DQoNCk1ha2VmaWxlDQovZmlsZXMNCi9wa2cNCi9zY3JpcHRzDQoNCmZyb206 IGZ0cC5mcmVlYnNkLm9yZyB1bmRlciBwdWIvRnJlZUJTRC9wb3J0cy1jdXJy ZW50DQoNCnB1dCBleGVjdXRhYmxlIGluIC91c3IvcG9ydHMvZGlzdGZpbGVz DQpwdXQgcG9ydCBzdHJ1Y3R1cmUgaW4gL3Vzci9wb3J0cw0KDQp3aGVuIHR5 cGluZyAibWFrZSIgaW4gL3Vzci9wb3J0cywgdGhlIHRhcmJhbGwgdW5wYWNr cyBhbmQgZmlsZXMgYXJlIA0KY3JlYXRlZCBpbiAvdXNyL3BvcnRzL3dvcmsg ZGlyDQoNCg0KDQpRdWVzdGlvbj8NCg0KSXQgYXBwZWFycyB0byBjcmVhdGUg dGhlIGNvcnJlY3QgZmlsZXMsICBob3dldmVyICBuZXRzY2FwZS5iaW4gaXMg bm90IGluc3RhbGxlZCBpbiAvdXNyL2xvY2FsL2xpYmkgLiAuIC4gaXQgcmVt YWlucyBpbiB0aGUgL3Vzci9wb3J0cy93b3JrIGRpci4gIFdoZW4gZW50ZXJp bmcNCnRoZSBjb21tYW5kICJuZXRzY2FwZSIgaXQgZG9lcyBub3QgZXhlY3V0 ZS4gIEl0IGNhbid0IGZpbmQgdGhlIGZpbGU/DQoNClByb3ZpZGVkIHRoZSB0 YXJiYWxsIGhhcyBhbHJlYWR5IGJlZW4gZG93bmxvYWRlZCBhbmQgcGxhY2Vk IGludG8gdGhlIC91c3IvcG9ydHMvZGlzdGZpbGVzIGRpciwgIElzIHRoZSBh Ym92ZSBwb3J0IHN0cnVjdHVyZSBhbGwgdGhhdCBpcyBuZWNlc3NhcnkgdG8g cG9ydCBhDQpwcm9ncmFtPyANCg0KSW4gdGhlIGFib3ZlIHBvcnRzIHN0cnVj dHVyZSAvZmlsZXMgc3ViZGlyLCAgdGhlcmUgaXMgYW5vdGhlciBNYWtlZmls ZSB0aGF0IGRvZXNub3QgYXBwZWFyIHRvIGJlIGV4ZWN1dGluZy4gIFNob3Vs ZCBpdCBiZT8NCg0KVGhhbmtzIGZvciBhbnkgaGVscCBpbiB0aGlzIGZydXN0 cmF0aW5nIHByb2JsZW0gPyENCg0KDQpCb2IgQWJlbA0KYmFiZWxAY2Fpcy5j b20NCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg== --0-1468465567-835905791=:1013-- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 17:16:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA09497 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sili.adn.edu.ph (info@sili.adn.edu.ph [165.220.57.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA09450 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:16:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from info@localhost) by sili.adn.edu.ph (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA12689; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:40:24 +1000 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:40:24 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Information Help Desk To: James Raynard cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: trouble for process to be terminated In-Reply-To: <199606271729.RAA05522@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, James Raynard wrote: > > What's the last resort besides rebooting after killing a process > > that still lives but is trying to exit? > > Are you referring to a "zombie" process - one where a child process > exits before its parent and the parent doesn't clean up after it > properly (by calling wait())? > > It's not as bad as it seems, as the process has actually exited, > releasing all the memory it was using and closing any files it had > open, etc. All it's taking up is an entry in the process table. On the > other hand, it effectively reduces the number of processes you can run > by one, and makes the ps output look untidy. > > This is usually the result of a programming mistake - or the parent > may be blocking on a resource which never becomes available. Perhaps > if you can post some details about which program causes the problem, > and how it happens, we may be able to give a more helpful answer. > > -- > James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland > james@jraynard.demon.co.uk > HI !!! The process here is mgetty which I used for dial-up and whose owner is the init process. In my /etc/ttys, I have an entry, ttyd0 "/usr/local/sbin/mgetty -Ds 19200 -m'""AT&H1 OK'" dialup on secure This works just fine and I have the modem connected to COM1. You might find it weird that instead of cuaa0, I used ttyd0. Somebody told me cuaa0 should be used but I was able to make it work with using ttyd0. This setup works just fine. After every connection and disconnection, the process mgetty is terminated and resurrected by the init process. Now, I encounter this problem with the process mgetty not being able to exit when instead of ttyd0, I used ttyd1 and have the modem connected to COM2. I made the necessary changes in /etc/ttys, turned the line off in the dial-up in COM1, and added a modified line similar to the above. After the changes, I now see a process started by init. I tried to issue a 'kill -9 '. What should happen is the process exits and gets resurrected. But, the process seems having problems exiting and I usually see the line below. ???? ?? IE ?:??.?? /usr/local/sbin/mgetty -Ds 19200 -m AT&H1 OK ttyd0 I looked this up and this means that the process knows it has been issued a SIGKILL but still is trying to exit. If details are still needed I am more than willing to replay ASAP. Thank you. -- jf From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 17:34:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA10493 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com (tombstone.sunrem.com [206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA10488 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:34:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA01751; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 18:34:16 -0600 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 18:34:16 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Network Monitoring/Packet Sniffing? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been given the dubious task of 'administrating' our LAN and its connection to the internet. Recently our network will max out its capacity, crippling everybody for a few moments until it recovers. I havn't been able to track anything more than bandwidth is spiking to capacity. Another admin where I work has an Ethernet monitor which simply says 75% of it is from TCP/IP packets (we also run ethertalk). We have several leased connections, and our network itself is not of the best design. What I am looking for is programs of any sort which do _anything_ in regard to monitoring network traffic. Specifically, I would love something which also tracked what IP addresses are hitting the top in bandwidth. The FreeBSD system I am thinking of sits in the middle of the network, so should be able to see as easilly as any other (we do not bridge nor do we have smart hubs, so it should see EVERYTHING). -Brandon Gillespie- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 18:00:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA12778 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 18:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA12772 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 18:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uZRuc-000192C; Thu, 27 Jun 96 20:59 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: Re: Network Monitoring/Packet Sniffing? Date: 27 Jun 1996 20:59:52 -0400 Lines: 1 Message-ID: <4qvaq8$2hb@twwells.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk man tcpdump From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 18:05:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA13105 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 18:05:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from salsa.habaneros.com ([207.34.140.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA13100 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 18:05:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jalapeno.habaneros.com (jalapeno [207.34.140.98]) by salsa.habaneros.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA07813; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:49:45 -0700 Received: by jalapeno.habaneros.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BB6452.4DBABC40@jalapeno.habaneros.com>; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:58:53 -0700 Message-ID: <01BB6452.4DBABC40@jalapeno.habaneros.com> From: "Neil C. Jensen" To: James Raynard , "'Information Help Desk'" Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: RE: trouble for process to be terminated Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:58:49 -0700 Encoding: 80 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a similiar problem with serial io on COM2, although I am using getty: ttyd1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" dialup on In my case, I can dialup, and login once ok. However, when I exit from getty, the process and user shell refuses to die. My next attempt to dialup always fails, the modem picks up and then disconnects. This kills the original process and starts a new one, and I can then log in again. This is repeatable, successful login, unsuccessful, successful..... I haven't tried in on COM1, but now I think I will... ---------- From: Information Help Desk[SMTP:info@adn.edu.ph] Sent: Friday, June 28, 1996 1:40 AM To: James Raynard Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: trouble for process to be terminated On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, James Raynard wrote: > > What's the last resort besides rebooting after killing a process > > that still lives but is trying to exit? > > Are you referring to a "zombie" process - one where a child process > exits before its parent and the parent doesn't clean up after it > properly (by calling wait())? > > It's not as bad as it seems, as the process has actually exited, > releasing all the memory it was using and closing any files it had > open, etc. All it's taking up is an entry in the process table. On the > other hand, it effectively reduces the number of processes you can run > by one, and makes the ps output look untidy. > > This is usually the result of a programming mistake - or the parent > may be blocking on a resource which never becomes available. Perhaps > if you can post some details about which program causes the problem, > and how it happens, we may be able to give a more helpful answer. > > -- > James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland > james@jraynard.demon.co.uk > HI !!! The process here is mgetty which I used for dial-up and whose owner is the init process. In my /etc/ttys, I have an entry, ttyd0 "/usr/local/sbin/mgetty -Ds 19200 -m'""AT&H1 OK'" dialup on secure This works just fine and I have the modem connected to COM1. You might find it weird that instead of cuaa0, I used ttyd0. Somebody told me cuaa0 should be used but I was able to make it work with using ttyd0. This setup works just fine. After every connection and disconnection, the process mgetty is terminated and resurrected by the init process. Now, I encounter this problem with the process mgetty not being able to exit when instead of ttyd0, I used ttyd1 and have the modem connected to COM2. I made the necessary changes in /etc/ttys, turned the line off in the dial-up in COM1, and added a modified line similar to the above. After the changes, I now see a process started by init. I tried to issue a 'kill -9 '. What should happen is the process exits and gets resurrected. But, the process seems having problems exiting and I usually see the line below. ???? ?? IE ?:??.?? /usr/local/sbin/mgetty -Ds 19200 -m AT&H1 OK ttyd0 I looked this up and this means that the process knows it has been issued a SIGKILL but still is trying to exit. If details are still needed I am more than willing to replay ASAP. Thank you. -- jf From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 18:12:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA13587 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 18:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agony.vip.best.com (agony.vip.best.com [206.86.9.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA13582 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 18:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from winter@localhost) by agony.vip.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA00298; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 18:10:30 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 18:10:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuclear Winter To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Sound card troubles Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello. I'm having some trouble getting sound support on my laptop to work. I have compiled the kernel with snd0 and mss0 (Microsoft Sound System) support. I've also done /dev/MAKEDEV snd0, as well. When I do a cat /dev/sndstat, I get "SoundCard Error: The soundcard system has not been configured" in return. If this helps, this is what my kernel reports at startup regarding my sound card: Jun 27 17:07:55 agony /kernel: mss0 at 0x530 irq 10 drq 1 on isa Jun 27 17:07:56 agony /kernel: gus0: Any sort of help or input would be appreciated. Thanks. -- Nuclear Winter (agony@best.com) -- "Albeit unseen, albeit unveiled -- There's a troublemaker hiding heavy secrets" From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 19:08:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA23933 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 19:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (root@cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA23920 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 19:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from why.whine.com ([205.150.249.1]) by mail.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <115610-5250>; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 22:07:04 -0400 Received: from why (andrew@why [205.150.249.1]) by why.whine.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA04039; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 22:06:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 22:06:50 -0400 From: Andrew Herdman X-Sender: andrew@why To: Brandon Gillespie cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network Monitoring/Packet Sniffing? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Use 'trafshow' it's in the ports collection. I use it on my network at work to track down a variety of problems, just plug the ethernet interface into the hub/subnet you want to peek at. It also uses standard tcpdump filter rules so you can figure them out with a man tcpdump. Andrew On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Brandon Gillespie wrote: > I have been given the dubious task of 'administrating' our LAN and its > connection to the internet. Recently our network will max out its > capacity, crippling everybody for a few moments until it recovers. I > havn't been able to track anything more than bandwidth is spiking to > capacity. Another admin where I work has an Ethernet monitor which > simply says 75% of it is from TCP/IP packets (we also run ethertalk). We > have several leased connections, and our network itself is not of the > best design. > > What I am looking for is programs of any sort which do _anything_ in > regard to monitoring network traffic. Specifically, I would love > something which also tracked what IP addresses are hitting the top in > bandwidth. The FreeBSD system I am thinking of sits in the middle of the > network, so should be able to see as easilly as any other (we do not > bridge nor do we have smart hubs, so it should see EVERYTHING). > > -Brandon Gillespie- > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 20:08:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA00152 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 20:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.Stanford.EDU (mailhub.Stanford.EDU [36.21.0.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA00139 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 20:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by mailhub.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA17506; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 20:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 20:07:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Richard J Kuhns cc: Bill/Carolyn Pechter , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hackers@shell.monmouth.com Subject: Re: The crontab controversy In-Reply-To: <199606271434.JAA17453@sparcmill.grauel.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk While you're debating it, let me suggest that putting a little info in /etc/crontab might avoid the trap I fell into. The file says, after all, that its root's crontab; so it seemed reasonable to use crontab -u root -e to edit it. Actually it's not root's crontab, it's the system's crontab. So it might be noted as a comment that "this file may be directly edited. Use crontab for creating crontabs for specific users, including root. See crontab (1) and crontab (5) for format differences." Annelise On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Richard J Kuhns wrote: > pechter@shell.monmouth.com writes: > > > > My fellow FreeBSD folks: > > > > > > > > It's time we took a stand. > > yes > > > Isn't it time we abandon the two methods of handling crontabs.? > > yes > > > > I'm a fan of OS/x and Pyramid dual universe stuff (which I will add to > > Freebsd -- think universe bsd and universe gnu/linux) and EVEN I think ONE > > crontab method is enough for anyone. > > > > > > Should we: > > > > 1. Declare the ATT method the winner. > > 2. Declare the BSD method (the REAL original crontab) the winner. > > 3. Make the installation program remove one or the other at install > > (put /var/cront/tabs/root in with the same actions as /etc/crontab > > and have the install remove one or the other) > > 4. Ignore the problem and trap the users/admins? > > > > In order of preference, 1 3 2 4. > > Method 1 (/var/cron/tabs/*) offers the greatest versatility and > consistency; it's sole disadvantage, as far as I can see, is that it > requires root to execute one additional commmand when changing the system > crontab file: "crontab new_crontab". I'd even be willing to argue that > this is a Good Thing. Furthermore, a crontab file is a crontab file is a > crontab file. This makes it easier to write a script that (syntactically) > verifies crontab files before installing them. > -- > Rich Kuhns rjk@grauel.com > PO Box 6249 Tel: (317)477-6000 x319 > 100 Sawmill Road > Lafayette, IN 47903 > > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 20:09:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA00290 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 20:09:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.montana.edu (fubar.cs.montana.edu [153.90.192.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA00277 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 20:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by cs.montana.edu; id AA21671; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 21:09:40 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960628031028.006d9e18@cs.montana.edu> X-Sender: ashworth@cs.montana.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_835956628==_" Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 20:10:28 -0700 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Justin Ashworth Subject: Kernel won't make X-Attachments: C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\SPACEHOG; Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk --=====================_835956628==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm compiling a custom kernel per the documentation (section 5.2 in the FreeBSD Handbook). I did the config and make depend, which both worked. However, I got numerous warnings when trying to make, then it finally stopped with an error code of 1. Here is my kernel listing (if the wrap screws it up, look at the attached copy): ----------------------------- machine "i386" cpu "I586_CPU" ident SPACEHOG maxusers 10 options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=5 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options BOUNCE_BUFFERS options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options FAILSAFE #Be conservative options SYSVSHM options "SBC_IRQ=9" options "SB16_DMA=3" config SPACEHOG root on wd0 controller isa0 controller eisa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 #disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus options ATAPI_STATIC #Don't do it as an LKM device wcd0 #IDE CD-ROM # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc) is sufficient # for any number of installed devices. controller ahc0 controller scbus0 #device sd0 device od0 #device st0 #device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows #device mcd1 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector mcdintr # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector pcrint #options PCVT_FREEBSD=210 # pcvt running on FreeBSD >= 2.0.5 #options XSERVER # include code for XFree86 #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std # Mandatory, don't remove device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr # # Laptop support (see LINT for more options) # device apm0 at isa? disable # Advanced Power Management options APM_BROKEN_STATCLOCK # Workaround some buggy APM BIOS # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support #controller crd0 #device pcic0 at crd? #device pcic1 at crd? device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr device psm0 at isa? disable port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmintr device fxp0 device vx0 pseudo-device loop pseudo-device log #pseudo-device sl 1 # ijppp uses tun instead of ppp device pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 # keep this if you want to be able to continue to use /stand/sysinstall pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's # sound card stuff controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 9 device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 3 ------------------------------------- Please help.... Thanks! --=====================_835956628==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="SPACEHOG" machine "i386" cpu "I586_CPU" ident SPACEHOG maxusers 10 options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=5 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options BOUNCE_BUFFERS options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options FAILSAFE #Be conservative options SYSVSHM options "SBC_IRQ=9" options "SB16_DMA=3" config SPACEHOG root on wd0 controller isa0 controller eisa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 #disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus options ATAPI_STATIC #Don't do it as an LKM device wcd0 #IDE CD-ROM # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc) is sufficient # for any number of installed devices. controller ahc0 controller scbus0 #device sd0 device od0 #device st0 #device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows #device mcd1 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector mcdintr # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector pcrint #options PCVT_FREEBSD=210 # pcvt running on FreeBSD >= 2.0.5 #options XSERVER # include code for XFree86 #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std # Mandatory, don't remove device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr # # Laptop support (see LINT for more options) # device apm0 at isa? disable # Advanced Power Management options APM_BROKEN_STATCLOCK # Workaround some buggy APM BIOS # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support #controller crd0 #device pcic0 at crd? #device pcic1 at crd? device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr device psm0 at isa? disable port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmintr device fxp0 device vx0 pseudo-device loop pseudo-device log #pseudo-device sl 1 # ijppp uses tun instead of ppp device pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 # keep this if you want to be able to continue to use /stand/sysinstall pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's # sound card stuff controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 9 device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 3 --=====================_835956628==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" - Justin J. Ashworth -- CS Student, Montana State University --- Chair, Association for Computing Machinery - MSU -- ashworth@cs.montana.edu - http://www.cs.montana.edu/~ashworth --=====================_835956628==_-- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 20:18:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA01299 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 20:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sili.adn.edu.ph (info@sili.adn.edu.ph [165.220.57.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA01202 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 20:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from info@localhost) by sili.adn.edu.ph (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA01665; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:32:26 +1000 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:32:26 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Information Help Desk To: John McNamee cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: trouble for process to be terminated In-Reply-To: <199606280222.TAA02047@smoke.microwiz.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, John McNamee wrote: > I think your basic problem is using the ttyXX rather then cuaXX device. > mgetty needs to open the tty device and talk to the modem before carrier > is detected. The hung process is probably caused by mgetty doing an open() > on the tty device, and being blocked in the tty driver waiting for carrier. > My guess is that the modem on your COM1 is asserting CD all the time, but > the modem on COM2 is only asserting CD when connected. > > -- > John McNamee MicroWizards > Voice: 702-825-3535 / FAX: 702-825-3443 http://www.microwiz.com > HI !!! I was using the same modem when I when I connected it to COM1 and also with COM2. I just have to transfer the cable to connect to COM2. Also, I tried cuaa1 instead of ttyd1, but still I had the same problem. The mgetty process finds it hard to terminate. Based from the lights on the modem, I just see two light up and CD is not one of those which indicates that CD is not asserted all the time. Thank you. -- jf From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 20:27:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA02164 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 20:27:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.Stanford.EDU (mailhub.Stanford.EDU [36.21.0.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA02159 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 20:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by mailhub.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA17632; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 20:23:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 20:23:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: "Robert F. Abel" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, babel@cais.com Subject: Re: Port of netscape3 problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1468465567-835905791=:1013" Content-ID: Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1468465567-835905791=:1013 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Robert F. Abel wrote --about using the ports structure on a Netscape3 tarball. If the port skeleton was from the cdrom, it probably used the distfile from the cdrom instead of the Netscape3 one, so the version of Netscape it created isn't 3. It didn't install because the command used was make instead of make install. So go back and type make install. This will install a file called netscape that sets the environmental variables and the real binary, netscape.bin. Then unpack the Netscape 3 tar ball and rename the resulting binary called netscape to netscape.bin. Replace the netscape.bin created in the ports process with the new netscape.bin. 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Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I know FreeBSD 2.2 will support on board AIC7850 chip but what is the official release day on it? Also, will 2.1.5 support it? Many thanks From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 22:11:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA06895 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 22:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from greece.it.earthlink.net (greece-c.it.earthlink.net [206.85.92.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA06890 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 22:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fun-fun- (pool061.Max2.Minneapolis.MN.DYNIP.ALTER.NET [153.37.188.61]) by greece.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA05629 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 22:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31D36CE1.4654@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 00:25:53 -0500 From: Andy Lemay X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Generic (or not) SVGA drivers for FreeBSD X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello there. A friend of mine recently installed FreeBSD on his computer. Previous to this, he had obtained a Diamond Viper PCI video card. Right now, he's stuck in 320x200 resolution because he doesn't have a driver/port (?) that can impliment the SVGA capabilities of his graphics card. He asked me to write this letter because he is having some difficulties getting online (not relating to FreeBSD). Any info you could provide me/my friend about getting support for his graphics card would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time. andy lemay From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 23:11:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA10806 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 23:11:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA10791 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 23:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id IAA18933; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:10:56 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (RAA00703); Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:05:07 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199606271705.RAA00703@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: int link(const int inode, const char *name2) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:05:07 +0000 (GMT) Cc: rkk@psa.pencom.com In-Reply-To: <199606251847.NAA09638@psa.pencom.com> from "Randy Kirchhof" at Jun 25, 96 01:47:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > ...And then Terry Lambert said: > > > > Probably better to write a program that includes the real headers and > > use it to hack the FS. > > > > > Whatever happened to "fsdb", anyway? I learned a *lot* from that > program back in the Old Days(tm). Does anyone know of a version that is > being maintained and/or ported these days? On the Walnut Creek 2.1 CD, there was an fsdb source ported from NetBSD. (I don't know the exact location, under a directory such experimental or like.) -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 27 23:28:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA11380 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 23:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA11375 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 23:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA02187 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 00:28:49 -0600 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 00:28:49 -0600 (MDT) From: Joel Yancey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SCSI Support Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk im wondering if my Future Domain 1610 will work with FReeBSD. that Faq said that the tmc-850 would work, which is the same as the TMC-1610 but it the 8-bit version. There seems to be no support in the Kernel for ANY Future domain Card, even though the hardware faq for my version release which is 2.1.0-RELEASE, says there is. Is there Any Documentation on these drivers, or anyone know the whereabouts these drivers are? Thanks Joel Yancey dead.deadnend.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 00:11:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA13667 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 00:11:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.Stanford.EDU (mailhub.Stanford.EDU [36.21.0.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA13659 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 00:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by mailhub.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA19490 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 00:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 00:11:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Queueing Outgoing Mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My sendmail.cf has Odq instead of Odi in it; rc.local has sendmail -bd & (and I've recently added -q90m). This queues incoming mail and outgoing mail sent with mail but not with pine. This is on 2.1-STABLE as of April 28. It would seem it's not possible to queue outgoing mail sent with pine? From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 00:34:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA14711 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 00:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA14704 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 00:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from andrsn@localhost) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) id AAA02150; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 00:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 00:33:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Queueing Outgoing Mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry, after trying to figure out for a couple of weeks why pine wasn't queueing the outgoing mail, I discovered about five minutes after I sent the message that it was set up to use Stanford's mail agent rather than sendmail, which is why it wasn't queuing. Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 01:20:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA17471 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 01:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (root@sasami.jurai.net [206.151.208.162]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA17461 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 01:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA08204; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 03:19:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 03:19:50 -0500 (CDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-Sender: winter@sasami To: Terry Lambert cc: Lars Jonas Olsson , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCI probing behind bridge? In-Reply-To: <199606272029.NAA05768@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > pci0:0: Intel Corporation, device=0x1250, class=bridge (host) [no driver assigned] > > pci0:6: Digital Equipment Corporation, device=0x0021, class=bridge (pci) [no driver assigned] > > pci0:7: Intel Corporation, device=0x7000, class=bridge (isa) [no driver assigned] > > pci0:8: Adaptec, device=0x7078, class=storage (scsi) [no driver assigned] > The BIOS configures the PCI at boot time. > It is not necessary to assign a driver, it will "just work". Actually Terry, it won't. There is a patch to pcisupport.c that I had to apply to get my 0new ZNYX 314s to work correctly. I'm not sure if Matt Thomas committed the changes, but I've been running them (and the if_de drivers) for more than a month. Lars, I think Matt Thomas is @ IETF this week, so I can get you the patches that I'm running... They might fix your problem. You will also want to be running -stable. > But enough about you... tell us about this passive backplane system; > we were just discussing this as an "ideal design" on the SMP list. I've got a dream of getting a 20 slot monster and running 4 to 10 single processor machines in it as a front end machine cluster. I don't think I'll be able to justify it for a while though. (Hummm... Maybe a web-farm box...) Just think, one of these boxes and a rack full of rack-mounted drive enclosures. (Hey! Newsserver farm!) I'll dream on and stuff. Have a good one. | Matthew N. Dodd | winter@jurai.net | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | | Technical Manager | mdodd@intersurf.net | http://www.intersurf.net | | InterSurf Online | "Welcome to the net Sir, would you like a handbasket?"| From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 01:48:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA19202 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 01:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line7.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.139]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA19197 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 01:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA00412; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 01:46:59 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 01:46:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Keith A. Fredericks" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATI video problem? In-Reply-To: <31D338FB.7B5E@kellysoftware.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Keith A. Fredericks wrote: > I have installed FreeBSD 2.1 from the CDROM on my Intel Atlantis > motherboard-based Pentium 166 system. I had to plug another video > card into the board however to avoid the integral ATI mach 64 > video hardware throwing me into some bad video mode that I can't > recover from. I installed with the JAZZ Jakarta board which uses > a Tseng labs chipset. Now I would like to use the onboard video > if I can. How can I avoid the apparent problem with the ATI > hardware? Have I missed some hardware video configuration step? There should be a disable jumper on the motherboard or in the BIOS to turn off the onboard Mach64. Check your motherboard's manual. Note that you have to disable the serial ports in -c to install with a Mach. Once you get up you need to modify the kernel source and remove the sio3 probe. Instructions are in the FAQ. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 01:52:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA19493 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 01:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line7.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.139]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA19482 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 01:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA00422; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 01:52:30 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 01:52:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Mike K." cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: CUSeeMe for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Mike K. wrote: > Does anyone know of a CUSeeMe client for FreeBSD and X? vic can supposedly do it. Some tweaking is required, and vic is very particular about what it takes for a server. Try asking in multimedia@freebsd.org. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 01:57:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA19745 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 01:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line7.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.139]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA19739 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 01:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA00440; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 01:57:15 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 01:57:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Mark Hieber cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD v2.1 install (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am interested in getting the FreeBSD 2.1 cd, but I have a question > about the install. I have a pentium 100MhZ with 2 hd (1 gig and 300 MEG) > with a soundblaster 16 with a scsii II port. I have a 6 speed NEC > internal cdrom. Can I install the cd directly from this cdrom? If not, is > there a workaround? Hm. I'm trying to remember if the sb16 scsi port is supported. Anybody remember what controller is on it? If that is supported then it should work. If it is IDE then use the ATAPI.FLP for your floppy image and cross your fingers :-) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 02:00:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA19989 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line7.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.139]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA19983 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA00529; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:00:41 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:00:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Andy Lemay cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Generic (or not) SVGA drivers for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <31D36CE1.4654@earthlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Andy Lemay wrote: > Hello there. A friend of mine recently installed FreeBSD on his > computer. Previous to this, he had obtained a Diamond Viper PCI video > card. Right now, he's stuck in 320x200 resolution because he doesn't > have a driver/port (?) that can impliment the SVGA capabilities of his > graphics card. He asked me to write this letter because he is having > some difficulties getting online (not relating to FreeBSD). Any info > you could provide me/my friend about getting support for his graphics > card would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time. You must mean XFree86. You want to get your friend the S3 X server. That will take full advantage of his Diamond and get him to the higher resolutions and bit depths. Plus it'll be loads faster. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 02:01:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA20049 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gbdata.com (dial46.phoenix.net [205.241.121.60]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA20029 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gclarkii@localhost) by main.gbdata.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id DAA04069; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 03:58:36 -0500 From: Gary Clark II Message-Id: <199606280858.DAA04069@main.gbdata.com> Subject: Re: [Q] Can I run SCO binaries on FreeBSD-2.1.0? To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 03:58:35 -0500 (CDT) Cc: geoid@ktnet.co.kr, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199606101825.LAA03952@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Jun 10, 96 11:25:27 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert wrote: > > > I want to run FoxBase for SCO on FreeBSD-2.1.0. > > > > Is it possible? and How can I do? > > FoxBase for SCO UNIX (an IBCS2 binary, preferrably statically linked), > yes. Yes, the binary itself runs (This was one of the test bins that I was using when the NEW IBCS2 emulator was being tested.) However, there is a problem somewhere with character sets...:( It just will not come out right even with a wyse-50 terminal like it should. > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. > > Gary -- Gary Clark II (N5VMF) | I speak only for myself and "maybe" my company gclarkii@GBData.COM | Member of the FreeBSD Doc Team Providing Internet and ISP startups mail info@GBData.COM for information FreeBSD FAQ at ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/docs/freebsd-faq.ascii From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 02:05:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA20323 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:05:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line7.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.139]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA20317 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA00575; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:05:14 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:05:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Robert Batten cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help! My previously docile Freebsd system has gone nuts! In-Reply-To: <9605278359.AA835913085@SMTPGWY.CANDLE.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Robert Batten wrote: > I have had to reinstall Freebsd to my system after some files had > become corrupted. When I first installed the 2.1 release to my PC-DOS > system I encountered few problems that I could not readily attribute > to operator error. The system ran fine for a period of 4 months until > I corrupted some files by shutting down the server via tripping on the > power cord! ack :( fsck couldn't do anything to them? > I accepted my fate and was prepared to reinstall from the CD-ROM just > like before. I was not pleasantly surprised to discover that the > install program, the exact same floppy boot disk that I used > previously, failed to want to create a bootable image on my ide hard > drive! In fact the exact message is as follows: WARNING! Unable to > swap to /dev/wd0s1b: Device not configured. This may cause the > installation to fail at some point if you don't have a lot of memory. If you are going to start all over, then start all the way over and delete the FreeBSD partition. sysinstall gets mighty confused if you have a filesystem already there (unless you tell it NOT to newfs those partitions which is what you wanted to do. It's probably too late now, they're trash) Moral: don't install to pre-existing partitions. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 02:15:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA20885 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line7.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.139]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA20877 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA00595; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:15:11 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:15:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Justin Ashworth cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel won't make In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960628031028.006d9e18@cs.montana.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Justin Ashworth wrote: > I'm compiling a custom kernel per the documentation (section 5.2 in the > FreeBSD Handbook). I did the config and make depend, which both worked. > However, I got numerous warnings when trying to make, then it finally > stopped with an error code of 1. Here is my kernel listing (if the wrap > screws it up, look at the attached copy): What was the exact text of the error(s)? Error code 1 just means a command failed. What version of FreeBSD is this? I don't remember ever seeing a "SB16_DRQ" option in 2.1-RELEASE or anything before. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 02:18:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA21191 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line7.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.139]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA21179 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA00602; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:18:44 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:18:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Brandon Gillespie cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Phone Blaster 28.8 PnP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Brandon Gillespie wrote: > Has anybody ever used this in FreeBSD, it looks interesting and I am > tempted to grab it, but my previous experience with a PnP modem and > FreeBSD was not very satisfying. Basically, its several items > all-in-one (A 28.8 Data/Fax Modem, a speakerphone and voice mail system, > and a 16bit sound card). It is from Creative Labs, so I feel it wouldn't > be too unreliable, but would FreeBSD be able to handle it, at least > handle the sound and modem? It would end up a 16 bit sound card and maybe modem. You'll have to look into vgetty for the telephony support. vgetty may be in ports. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 02:27:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA21624 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA21615 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA49406 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:27:29 GMT Received: from cat.cs.mu.oz.au(128.250.27.66) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaaucDFW; Fri Jun 28 09:27:17 1996 Message-ID: <31D3A5DD.6CCA@ibm.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 19:29:01 +1000 From: Ian Chiew Reply-To: chiew@ibm.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: BSD installation floppy images Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! Are all of the BSD installation floppies available at ftp.freebsd.org? I can't find them! I don't have the CDROM and want to do a completely floppy based installation. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 02:32:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA21928 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line7.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.139]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA21922 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:32:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA00623; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:32:28 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:32:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Bora Akyol cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Why no DEC 21x4x driver on the boot.flp for the latest snapshot In-Reply-To: <31D31239.30D2@stanford.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Bora Akyol wrote: > Why is there no DE driver on the latest boot floppy for 2.2 Snapshot Remember that the de driver is for PCI based hardware which requires no configuration, so it doesn't appear in -c. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 03:57:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA25017 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 03:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA25011 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 03:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA17798 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:53:23 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA18849 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:05:48 +0200 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:05:48 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199606281105.NAA18849@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: java script and security violation message Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Yesterday I browsed some web sites in Germany from my home machine (2.2-current) using netscape (not sure whether it was 2.0 or 3.0b4). Anyway I got an alert box several times saying something of security violation in Java script line xxx. It looked a bit like I had to be concerned about it. What does it mean? Is it a security issue? BTW, I was root while doing this - maybe not a good idea to run netscape while being root anyway. --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 04:41:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA27625 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 04:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ampere.excelsus.com ([207.2.82.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA27620 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 04:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from weldon@localhost) by ampere.excelsus.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id HAA01224; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 07:39:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 07:39:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Weldon S Godfrey 3 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] Can I run SCO binaries on FreeBSD-2.1.0? In-Reply-To: <199606280858.DAA04069@main.gbdata.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On this note, has anyone used the APC PowerChute shoftware sucessfully on FreeBSD, in particular the SCO version (of course). Weldon On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Gary Clark II wrote: > Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > > I want to run FoxBase for SCO on FreeBSD-2.1.0. > > > > > > Is it possible? and How can I do? > > > > FoxBase for SCO UNIX (an IBCS2 binary, preferrably statically linked), > > yes. > Yes, the binary itself runs (This was one of the test bins that I was using > when the NEW IBCS2 emulator was being tested.) However, there is a problem > somewhere with character sets...:( It just will not come out right even with > a wyse-50 terminal like it should. > > > > > Terry Lambert > > terry@lambert.org > > --- > > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > > or previous employers. > > > > > > Gary > > -- > Gary Clark II (N5VMF) | I speak only for myself and "maybe" my company > gclarkii@GBData.COM | Member of the FreeBSD Doc Team > Providing Internet and ISP startups mail info@GBData.COM for information > FreeBSD FAQ at ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/docs/freebsd-faq.ascii > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 04:51:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA28069 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 04:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psa.pencom.com (psa.pencom.com [204.217.199.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA28060 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 04:51:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rkk@localhost) by psa.pencom.com (Hah!/nope) id GAA05831; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 06:50:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Randy Kirchhof Message-Id: <199606281150.GAA05831@psa.pencom.com> Subject: Re: int link(const int inode, const char *name2) To: zgabor@CoDe.hu (Gabor Zahemszky) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 06:50:31 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, rkk@psisa.com In-Reply-To: <199606271705.RAA00703@CoDe.CoDe.hu> from "Gabor Zahemszky" at Jun 27, 96 05:05:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ...And then Gabor Zahemszky said: > > (I'd said) > > Whatever happened to "fsdb", anyway? I learned a *lot* from that > > program back in the Old Days(tm). Does anyone know of a version that is > > being maintained and/or ported these days? > > On the Walnut Creek 2.1 CD, there was an fsdb source ported from NetBSD. > (I don't know the exact location, under a directory such experimental or like.) Even more better, having built -stable, "fsdb" is happily residing in /sbin. Thanks for the heads up. Look out, filesystem... r -- There are two kinds of worries -- those you can do something about and those you can't. Don't spend any time on the latter. -- Duke Ellington ====================================================== _ Randy Kirchhof, Pencom Systems Administration AnswerDesk _.| |_ Wk: rkk@psa.pencom.com Hm: rkk@kirchhof.com \. } Desk:512/343-1111 Fax:512/346-6444 512/259-7171 \_( From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 05:37:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA00903 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 05:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ampere.excelsus.com ([207.2.82.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA00898 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 05:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from weldon@localhost) by ampere.excelsus.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA01311; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:35:31 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:35:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Weldon S Godfrey 3 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Linux passwd -> FBSD passwd utility Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would like to setup a FBSD box to replace an Linux system, but there is the issue of porting the passwords over. Does anyone have, or know where to get, an utility/method to import linux passwords into a FreeBSD box? Weldon From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 05:58:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA01603 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 05:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tpone.telepac.pt (tpone.telepac.pt [194.65.3.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA01592 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 05:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.telepac.pt (netpac.telepac.pt [194.65.3.35]) by tpone.telepac.pt (8.6.12/1.0) with ESMTP id NAA21893 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:56:45 GMT Received: from joaomiguel (coi2_p2.telepac.pt [194.65.32.162]) by mail.telepac.pt (8.7.5/0.0) with SMTP id NAA06947 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:56:29 GMT Message-ID: <31D3C960.46DD@supra.pt> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 14:00:32 +0200 From: Eduardo Costa Organization: SUPRA Web X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Cyrix Processors X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/hw.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I would like to know if anyone has already tested the "new" Cyrix P166+ processor with FreeBSD, and if there are any known bugs, because we are thinking of upgrading our server to a Cyrix P166+, 64 Mb memory, 2.1Gb HD, and, before it, you would like to now something about the Cyrix... Thanx, Eduardo Costa (costa@supra.pt) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 06:50:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA03274 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 06:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from watson.grauel.com (watson.grauel.com [199.233.104.36]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA03269 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 06:50:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparcmill.grauel.com (sparcmill.grauel.com [199.233.104.34]) by watson.grauel.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA01701; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:59:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by sparcmill.grauel.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA27683; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:49:50 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:49:50 -0500 From: rjk@sparcmill.grauel.com (Richard J Kuhns) Message-Id: <199606281349.IAA27683@sparcmill.grauel.com> To: "M.R.Murphy" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The crontab controversy In-Reply-To: <199606271712.KAA20736@meerkat.mole.org> References: <199606271712.KAA20736@meerkat.mole.org> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'll try not to run this too far into the ground... M. R. Murphy writes: > I suspect that most of the problems folks have with cron are caused by > "I know how it works from past experience. I don't need to read the man > pages for the FreeBSD stuff to see if there are differences. vi works, > what more do I need?" The behavior of cron is documented; people have problems > because they fail to RTFM. Not just with cron, BTW. So, that said, here are > some reasons: > > 1. /etc/crontab can provide a common environment, including a common > MAILTO in an easy to administer manner, > So can the /var/cron/tab files. > 2. /etc/crontab provides for an override of the allow/deny facility > associated with /var/spool/cron/tabs/* in an easy to administer manner, I'm afraid I don't understand this. The allow/deny facility lets you specify who CAN use cron, who CAN'T use cron, or (via empty cron.allow/cron.deny files) specify that everyone/noone can. What's to be overriden? > > 3. /etc/crontab provides for easy administration of multiple user cron > activity for a system maintainer. ``crontab -u user -e'' seems fairly straight-forward to me. > 4. /var/spool/cron/tabs/* provides, when used with an effective allow/deny > policy, a facility that allows users to maintain their own cron activities > without requiring intervention by the system administrator, saving > effort. This, I agree with :-). > 5. The dual crontab scheme provides flexibility. Some like it one way, some > like it another. Those who don't like /etc/crontab can remove it. Those > who don't like /var/spool/cron/tabs don't need to use it and can make > /usr/bin/crontab not executable. Don't just delete /var/spool/cron/tabs > though. That makes cron get noisy in the log. I'm not going to argue about this, either. > 6. Together with an effective group membership policy, the manipulation of > both /etc/crontab and /var/spool/cron/tabs/* can provide a powerful tool > for the scheduling of periodic tasks. (That last one is the kind that > goes behind a bullet on a slide shown by some marketeer :-) I'm not asking that the ability to handle /etc/crontabs be removed, but... > I would grant that some of us might still see NO reason for using 2 different > formats by default, but some of us do, and those who don't like /etc/crontab > can, as I mentioned above, delete it if they so choose. Agreed, but if we used only one format by default, it would be easier for new users and an experienced user would only have to make a simple one-time mod to /var/cron/tab/root to make it work in /etc. > Change for the sake of change is ill-advised. But a change which makes the system easier to understand and more consistent is progress (you know, the opposite of Congress ;-). -- Rich Kuhns rjk@grauel.com PO Box 6249 Tel: (317)477-6000 x319 100 Sawmill Road Lafayette, IN 47903 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 07:12:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA04104 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 07:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.dsu.edu (ghelmer@alpha.dsu.edu [138.247.32.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA04095 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 07:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ghelmer@localhost) by alpha.dsu.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA07007; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:08:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:08:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Guy Helmer To: "Herr E. Bostanci" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Delete users in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Herr E. Bostanci wrote: > Hello, > is there a command in FreeBSD Version 2.1 such > as 'adduser' to delete added users? If there is > no such command how it is possible to delete > users with their all directories, files etc.?... > Are there specific requirements in FreeBSD 2.1 > to delete any users? I have written a Perl script called removeuser that removes user's password entries, home directories, and incoming mail file. It's available at ftp://ftp.dsu.edu/pub/FreeBSD/ghelmer/removeuser.tar.gz Guy Helmer, Dakota State University Computing Services - ghelmer@alpha.dsu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 08:00:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA06986 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA06981 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailb.telia.com (root@mailb.telia.com [194.22.190.3]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id IAA10776 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:00:05 -0700 Received: from d1o3.telia.com (root@d1o3.telia.com [194.22.192.241]) by mailb.telia.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA26205 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:39:14 +0200 Received: from default (t4o3p3.telia.com [194.22.192.55]) by d1o3.telia.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA09904 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:21:01 +0200 Message-ID: <31D3E455.4E50@stockholm.mail.telia.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:55:33 +0200 From: Vesa Lehtiniemi X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: unsubscribe X-URL: http://dawnrazor.campus.luth.se/www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe all From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 08:25:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA08059 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mole.mole.org (marmot.mole.org [204.216.57.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA08054 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mole.mole.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA20252; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:25:20 GMT Received: from meerkat.mole.org(206.197.192.110) by mole.mole.org via smap (V1.3) id sma020250; Fri Jun 28 15:25:01 1996 Received: (from mrm@localhost) by meerkat.mole.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA23895; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:25:01 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:25:01 -0700 From: "M.R.Murphy" Message-Id: <199606281525.IAA23895@meerkat.mole.org> To: costa@supra.pt, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cyrix Processors Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I would like to know if anyone has already tested the "new" Cyrix P166+ > processor with FreeBSD, and if there are any known bugs, because we are > thinking of upgrading our server to a Cyrix P166+, 64 Mb memory, 2.1Gb > HD, and, before it, you would like to now something about the Cyrix... > Cyrix P120+ and P133+ both work fine with ASUS MB. 64MB, Adaptec 2940, 2G HP SCSI. Other motherboards, who knows... there seems to be a large amount of uncertainty and black art in choosing systems nowdays. -- Mike Murphy mrm@Mole.ORG +1 619 598 5874 Better is the enemy of Good From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 08:35:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA08536 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:35:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from okeefe.bestweb.net (root@jordyn.dialup.cloud9.net [168.100.205.62]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA08530 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jordyn.dialup.cloud9.net.could9.net (degas.bestweb.net [192.168.1.240]) by okeefe.bestweb.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA01314 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:37:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960628153729.00679b90@pop.bestweb.net> X-Sender: jordyn@pop.bestweb.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:37:29 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Jordyn A. Buchanan" Subject: Slow booting Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello: One of our machines is stalling as it boots. Not stalling, really but pausing for about five minutes before moving on. Here's what I see: >lo0: flags=8009 mtu 16384 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 >ed1: flags=8863 mtu 1500 > inet 192.168.1.15 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > ether 00:40:33:3b:d8:1d ---THIS IS WHERE THE DELAY OCCURS--- >clearing /tmp Initially I had thought something in the static routes might be causing the hang, but I took those out and the problem persists. I have two other systems with the exact same NE2000-compatible networking card on almost the exact same configuration (the others have slightly more RAM and use SCSI instead of IDE drives) so I haven't a clue what's causing the problem. If I hit control-C while the system is paused, the boot will continue normally, and I don't notice any adverse effects. Obviously, some idea of what is causing the boot process to hang would be better than needing to manually abort something every time, though. (And I'd rather know what I was aborting too.) Thanks for your help, Jordyn P.S. We're testing this system behind a firewall before we get our actual 'Net feed next month, hence the 192.168. network numbers... From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 08:44:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA08979 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mole.mole.org (marmot.mole.org [204.216.57.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA08972 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:44:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mole.mole.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA20355; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:43:50 GMT Received: from meerkat.mole.org(206.197.192.110) by mole.mole.org via smap (V1.3) id sma020351; Fri Jun 28 15:43:28 1996 Received: (from mrm@localhost) by meerkat.mole.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA23933; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:43:27 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:43:27 -0700 From: "M.R.Murphy" Message-Id: <199606281543.IAA23933@meerkat.mole.org> To: mrm@mole.Mole.ORG, rjk@sparcmill.grauel.com Subject: Re: The crontab controversy Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, jkh@time.cdrom.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Richard J Kuhns writes: > > I'll try not to run this too far into the ground... Me too, but it may be close. > > M. R. Murphy writes: > > I suspect that most of the problems folks have with cron are caused by > > "I know how it works from past experience. I don't need to read the man > > pages for the FreeBSD stuff to see if there are differences. vi works, > > what more do I need?" The behavior of cron is documented; people have problems > > because they fail to RTFM. Not just with cron, BTW. So, that said, here are > > some reasons: > > > > 1. /etc/crontab can provide a common environment, including a common > > MAILTO in an easy to administer manner, > > > > So can the /var/cron/tab files. Not quite. the /var/cron/tab files provide individual environments, not a common environment. Sure they can be individually modified with crontab to make them the same, but it is more work than a single _system_ cron table (/etc/crontab) that provides for execution of periodic tasks under multiple userids. Yes, one can also do this from /var/cron/tab/root, but less conveniently. I like convenient. I'm lazy. > > > 2. /etc/crontab provides for an override of the allow/deny facility > > associated with /var/spool/cron/tabs/* in an easy to administer manner, > > I'm afraid I don't understand this. The allow/deny facility lets you > specify who CAN use cron, who CAN'T use cron, or (via empty > cron.allow/cron.deny files) specify that everyone/noone can. What's to be > overriden? User "blort" can be denied in /var/spool/cron/tabs/* and /etc/crontab can still have periodic tasks executed under user "blort". > > > > > 3. /etc/crontab provides for easy administration of multiple user cron > > activity for a system maintainer. > > ``crontab -u user -e'' seems fairly straight-forward to me. It is straightforward, but you have to do each user separately. As in news, uucp, www, root, ... That's more work than just one system file to edit with vi. See the part above where I'm lazy. > > > 4. /var/spool/cron/tabs/* provides, when used with an effective allow/deny > > policy, a facility that allows users to maintain their own cron activities > > without requiring intervention by the system administrator, saving > > effort. > > This, I agree with :-). > > > 5. The dual crontab scheme provides flexibility. Some like it one way, some > > like it another. Those who don't like /etc/crontab can remove it. Those > > who don't like /var/spool/cron/tabs don't need to use it and can make > > /usr/bin/crontab not executable. Don't just delete /var/spool/cron/tabs > > though. That makes cron get noisy in the log. > > I'm not going to argue about this, either. > > > 6. Together with an effective group membership policy, the manipulation of > > both /etc/crontab and /var/spool/cron/tabs/* can provide a powerful tool > > for the scheduling of periodic tasks. (That last one is the kind that > > goes behind a bullet on a slide shown by some marketeer :-) > > I'm not asking that the ability to handle /etc/crontabs be removed, but... > > > I would grant that some of us might still see NO reason for using 2 different > > formats by default, but some of us do, and those who don't like /etc/crontab > > can, as I mentioned above, delete it if they so choose. > > Agreed, but if we used only one format by default, it would be easier for > new users and an experienced user would only have to make a simple one-time > mod to /var/cron/tab/root to make it work in /etc. The hitch in your argument is that the only difference in format between /etc/crontab and /var/spool/cron/tabs/* is that the USER must be specified in /etc/crontab. It has to be specified so it can work with multiple users. It's in the documentation, though it could be better stated and more clear. > > > Change for the sake of change is ill-advised. > > But a change which makes the system easier to understand and more > consistent is progress (you know, the opposite of Congress ;-). I think this is just a documentation problem. What Annalise says, put a comment in /etc/crontab saying how it differs from /var/spool/cron/tabs/* and say that it's a _system_ crontab and not _root's_ crontab, ought to make it understandable. WRT Congress, be thankful we don't get the government we pay for :-) Hey, Jordan, would you ask someone to re-comment /etc/crontab? -- Mike Murphy mrm@Mole.ORG +1 619 598 5874 Better is the enemy of Good From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 09:00:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA09886 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tad.cetlink.net (ns1.cetlink.net [206.31.104.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09881 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jeff@localhost) by tad.cetlink.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id LAA05374; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:59:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeffrey Wheat Message-Id: <199606281559.LAA05374@tad.cetlink.net> Subject: Re: Cyrix Processors To: costa@supra.pt (Eduardo Costa) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:59:46 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31D3C960.46DD@supra.pt> from "Eduardo Costa" at Jun 28, 96 02:00:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Eduardo Costa's email > Hi, > > I would like to know if anyone has already tested the "new" Cyrix P166+ > processor with FreeBSD, and if there are any known bugs, because we are > thinking of upgrading our server to a Cyrix P166+, 64 Mb memory, 2.1Gb > HD, and, before it, you would like to now something about the Cyrix... > > Thanx, > > Eduardo Costa (costa@supra.pt) I have upgraded 2 of my servers to the P166+ (Cyrix) and FIC PA-2002 mainboards. I have had some problems with this. For starters, a kernel compiled with only the I586_CPU will not boot. When compiled with both the I486_CPU and I586_CPU options, the kernel will boot, but the cpu is identified as a 486 cpu. Next, X will not start using xinit. I have to start X with xdm to get things to go. WHen I was using an AMD DX4-100 CPU, X would start and the system would then perform well. I have tried to compare the performance of the AMD and the Cyrix chips, as well as with a P100 machine (all identical OS and periphials) and the P100 outperforms both. I am also interested in other peoples results as I can not justify upgrading anymore machines at this time. Lastly, the Cyrix machine will randomly crash without any logs or warnings. This is unpredictable. Regards, Jeff > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 09:04:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA10124 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com (tombstone.sunrem.com [206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA10118 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA00549; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:48:16 -0600 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:48:15 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: Weldon S Godfrey 3 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux passwd -> FBSD passwd utility In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After running that, you would then want to merge the password files, making sure the root etc entries from the FreeBSD system are set in the new passwd file, then move it to /etc/master.passwd and type: pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd Good luck, and make sure to have backups and a safety boat ;) -Brandon Gillespie From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 09:04:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA10143 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com (tombstone.sunrem.com [206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA10131 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA00431; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:45:51 -0600 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:45:50 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: Weldon S Godfrey 3 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux passwd -> FBSD passwd utility In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Weldon S Godfrey 3 wrote: > I would like to setup a FBSD box to replace an Linux system, but there is > the issue of porting the passwords over. Does anyone have, or know where > to get, an utility/method to import linux passwords into a FreeBSD box? > > Weldon I dont know about a linux system with shadow passwords, but this will work elsewhere (assuming they are using the same password encryption scheme ----cut here---- #!/usr/bin/perl ## ## syntax: frobpwd < linux.passwd > freebsd.passwd ## ## No guarantees about the suitability or functionality of this script, ## I just hacked it up from memory of one I have used before ## while () { chomp; ($name, $pwd, $uid, $gid, $gcos, $home, $shell) = split(/:/); print "$name:$pwd:$uid:$gid::0:0:$gcos:$home:$shell\n"; } From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 09:05:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA10226 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com (tombstone.sunrem.com [206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA10221 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA00740; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:51:58 -0600 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:51:57 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: Eduardo Costa cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cyrix Processors In-Reply-To: <31D3C960.46DD@supra.pt> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I would like to know if anyone has already tested the "new" Cyrix P166+ > processor with FreeBSD, and if there are any known bugs, because we are > thinking of upgrading our server to a Cyrix P166+, 64 Mb memory, 2.1Gb > HD, and, before it, you would like to now something about the Cyrix... I'm running a FreeBSD box on a Cyrix P150+ without problem. Two items to note: * The Cyrix will report as a 486, so you will not get any of the 586 kernel optimizations (Somebody mentioned that the Cyrix chip did not implement a full 586 instruction set, but I was under the impression the Cyrix P150+ chips implemented the full 686 instruction set *shrug*). * They compare it to a P150/P166 etc, yet its floating point is NOT comparable. However, its fixed precision mathematics are faster, which is what I assume they are using to average the comparison. If you are going to have a server with a lot of floating math an intel chip would be a better choice, if you are simply going to have a general server then the Cyrix chip would be a better chip (IMHO) -Brandon Gillespie From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 09:49:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA13036 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from internet.spss.com ([192.35.251.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA13024 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmailgw.spss.com (msmailgw.spss.com [192.67.95.6]) by internet.spss.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA19499; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 16:51:47 GMT Received: by msmailgw.spss.com with Microsoft Mail id <31D40D88@msmailgw.spss.com>; Fri, 28 Jun 96 11:51:20 cdt From: "McKinley, Rob" To: Andy Lemay Cc: questions Subject: RE: Generic (or not) SVGA drivers for FreeBSD Date: Fri, 28 Jun 96 11:51:00 cdt Message-ID: <31D40D88@msmailgw.spss.com> Encoding: 43 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The viper is based on the Weitek P9000 chip. You'll need to get the p9k server, not the S3 server. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob McKinley ! Interim Release: SPSS Inc. ! A programmer's feeble attempt at repentance. 312-329-3661 ! mckinley@spss.com ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- From: Doug White[SMTP:dwhite@riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu] Sent: Friday, June 28, 1996 2:00 AM To: Andy Lemay Cc: questions Subject: Re: Generic (or not) SVGA drivers for FreeBSD On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Andy Lemay wrote: > Hello there. A friend of mine recently installed FreeBSD on his > computer. Previous to this, he had obtained a Diamond Viper PCI video > card. Right now, he's stuck in 320x200 resolution because he doesn't > have a driver/port (?) that can impliment the SVGA capabilities of his > graphics card. He asked me to write this letter because he is having > some difficulties getting online (not relating to FreeBSD). Any info > you could provide me/my friend about getting support for his graphics > card would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time. You must mean XFree86. You want to get your friend the S3 X server. That will take full advantage of his Diamond and get him to the higher resolutions and bit depths. Plus it'll be loads faster. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 09:50:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA13089 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA13077 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-15.ime.net [206.231.148.144]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA13082 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:49:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31D40D6F.3DFF@ime.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:50:55 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Makefiles, porting from Linux to FreeBSD. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk May not be the best place to ask being this is a more Linux question.. :( But heading to FreeBSD.. :) Anyways what I need is a copy of the Linux man pages for make. Preferably in ASCII Text. ie: man -a make |& col -b >linux_make.man (or whatever) Something to reference for makefile differences. Thanks -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 09:55:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA13685 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wireless.Stanford.EDU (wireless.Stanford.EDU [36.10.0.102]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA13664; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from akyol@localhost) by wireless.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.1) id JAA19715; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:55:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Bora Akyol To: dwhite@uoregon.edu cc: hackers@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org, hubbard@freebsd.org Subject: DE Driver on 2.2 SNAP (Hello , Anybody there!!) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi The DE 21x4x driver is NOT in the generic kernel that is on the boot.flp for 2.2 SNAP. I boot with the 2.1 SNAP and my DEC card is immediately recognized and with 2.2 SNAP it is not recognized. This leads me to believe that the driver is somehow not in the kernel. Bora ------------------------------------------------------------ Bora Aydin Akyol akyol@leland.stanford.edu ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 10:02:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA14152 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA14145 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uZeAy-000Qd0C; Fri, 28 Jun 96 16:05 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA12957; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:21:41 +0200 Message-Id: <199606281321.PAA12957@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: Compiling kernel for ATAPI CD-ROM error - fatal signal 11- what is it? To: ajohn@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (Anil John) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:21:41 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <01BB6462.E7F53500@ppp15.bcpl.lib.md.us> from "Anil John" at Jun 27, 96 07:57:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anil John writes: > > Greg Lehey[SMTP:grog@lemis.de] wrote: >> >> OK, you're not done yet. So it's pretty certain that you have a cache >> problem. Now you need to find out whether it's a hardware problem or >> incorrect configuration. Many BIOSes have cache burst configuration >> options (cache wait states, or burst configurations like 3-2-2-2 or >> 2-1-1-1 or some such). The cache is 128 bits wide, but the memory bus >> is only 32 bits wide, so it needs 4 cycles to transfer a cache line. >> The 3-2-2-2 means that the first transfer takes 3 bus cycles, and the >> following ones only 2. I'd guess that you have your cache set up for >> too few cycles. >> > > I know what you mean The above settings are in my BIOS on my other machine. > But I have an old Award BIOS on my system and I do not know what the > corresponding items are. The relevent options on it are (* marks what I > had when I got errors): > > Decoupled Refresh: Enabled*/Disabled > Relocate 256k/384k: Enabled*/Disabled > Video BIOS Cacheble: Enabled/Disabled* > System BIOS Cacheble: Enabled/Disabled* > > External cache scheme: Wr-Through*/Write-Back > Combine Alter & Tag Bits: Enabled*/Disabled > Memory hole at 15Mb Addr: Enabled/Disabled* > Cache Timing Control: Normal/Fast/Turbo* > DRAM Timing Control: Normal/Fast* > Fast DRAM: Enabled*/Disabled > Burst Write: Enabled/Disabled* > CPU Write Back Cache: Enabled*/Disabled > P24T Cache Replace BLAST: Enabled/Disabled* OK, at a guess I'd change these ones: > Cache Timing Control: Normal*/Fast/Turbo > DRAM Timing Control: Normal*/Fast > Fast DRAM: Enabled/Disabled* If that fixes the problem, it will also slightly slow down the machine (probably not enough to be noticable). If you really want to squeeze out the last 0.5% performance, you can then gradually try speeding things up. The trouble is, you can easily get the machine into a marginally unstable situation where it fails in strange ways only when your back it turned. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 10:21:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA14879 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA14873 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id VAA03637; Thu, 27 Jun 1996 21:15:54 +0100 (BST) To: p.richards@elsevier.co.uk cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Style guide In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:59:39 BST." <199606271359.OAA14693@cadair.elsevier.co.uk> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 21:15:52 +0100 Message-ID: <3635.835906552@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Paul Richards wrote in message ID <199606271359.OAA14693@cadair.elsevier.co.uk>: > Where's the style guide? I thought there was a man page for it but > I can't find it anywhere? style(9) in -current, I believe Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 10:28:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA15171 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from siegfried.utmb.edu (siegfried.utmb.edu [129.109.59.86]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA15126 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beowulf.utmb.EDU (beowulf.utmb.edu [129.109.59.83]) by siegfried.utmb.edu (8.5/8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04496; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:25:01 -0500 Received: by beowulf.utmb.EDU (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA26064; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:24:37 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:24:37 -0500 From: bdodson@beowulf.utmb.edu (M. L. Dodson) Message-Id: <199606281724.MAA26064@beowulf.utmb.EDU> To: jeff@tad.cetlink.net Subject: Re: Cyrix Processors Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [deleted] > > I have upgraded 2 of my servers to the P166+ (Cyrix) and FIC PA-2002 mainboards. I have the same motherboard (I'm pretty sure) running with a genuine Intel P75. The stress test I use is to run bonnie in a loop with a 32MB file. Adaptec 2940 (not UW) with an IBM 512MB scsi disk. Only other card is the video. This with 2.1R. > I have had some problems with this. For starters, a kernel compiled with only > the I586_CPU will not boot. When compiled with both the I486_CPU and I586_CPU > options, the kernel will boot, but the cpu is identified as a 486 cpu. Next, > X will not start using xinit. I have to start X with xdm to get things to go. > WHen I was using an AMD DX4-100 CPU, X would start and the system would then > perform well. I have tried to compare the performance of the AMD and the Cyrix > chips, as well as with a P100 machine (all identical OS and periphials) and the > P100 outperforms both. I am also interested in other peoples results as I can > not justify upgrading anymore machines at this time. Lastly, the Cyrix machine > will randomly crash without any logs or warnings. This is unpredictable. > Mine does the same if the external cache is enabled (two different sets of chips -- 15ns -- tried.) With ext. cache disabled, two tests went more than 12 hrs without crashing. 8MB of 70ns memory. Sometimes a SCSI bus reset error message is logged to the console, but mostly it just silently dies. With cache enabled I never got longer than 7 hr into a run. I suspect this motherboard is very marginal. 75mhz is not fast nowadays. Bud Dodson > Regards, > Jeff > > > > -- M. L. Dodson bdodson@scms.utmb.edu 409-772-2178 FAX: 409-772-1790 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 10:34:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA15554 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cidaut4.eis.uva.es (sanper@cidaut4.eis.uva.es [157.88.142.104]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA15542 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:34:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sanper@localhost) by cidaut4.eis.uva.es (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA03176; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 19:30:35 +0200 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 19:30:27 +0200 (MET DST) From: Santiago Perez-Cacho To: Brandon Gillespie cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Network Monitoring/Packet Sniffing? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Brandon Gillespie wrote: > What I am looking for is programs of any sort which do _anything_ in > regard to monitoring network traffic. Specifically, I would love > something which also tracked what IP addresses are hitting the top in > bandwidth. The FreeBSD system I am thinking of sits in the middle of the Try trafshow-2.0. It's in the -current ports collection, I think. It showed us how much bandwidth Windoze screen-savers can waste when configured to get the images from a file server!! > > -Brandon Gillespie- > +-----------------------------------+----------------------------------------+ | Santiago Perez-Cacho Jr. | 'Never try to teach a pig to sing. It | | email: sanper@cidaut4.eis.uva.es | wastes your time and annoys the pig.' | | CIDAUT | | | Parque Tecnologico de Boecillo | Murphy's Laws of Computers | | Valladolid (Spain) | | +-----------------------------------+----------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 10:50:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA18221 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po2.glue.umd.edu (po2.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA18216 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thurston.eng.umd.edu (thurston.eng.umd.edu [129.2.103.25]) by po2.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA13770; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:50:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by thurston.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA01209; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:50:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:50:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@thurston.eng.umd.edu To: Gary Chrysler cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Makefiles, porting from Linux to FreeBSD. In-Reply-To: <31D40D6F.3DFF@ime.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > May not be the best place to ask being this is a more Linux > question.. :( > But heading to FreeBSD.. :) > > Anyways what I need is a copy of the Linux man pages for make. > Preferably in ASCII Text. ie: man -a make |& col -b >linux_make.man > (or whatever) > Something to reference for makefile differences. I thought that Linux used the gnu make. If that's true, just do a 'man gmake' and there's your man page (assuming you installed gmake from ports). > > Thanks > > -Enjoy > Gary > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours > The Borg... Where minds meet > (207) 929-3848 > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 10:54:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA18362 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sos.state.il.us (sos.state.il.us [199.15.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA18357 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from twoods@localhost) by sos.state.il.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA02305; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:57:29 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:57:29 -0500 (CDT) From: "Terry A. Woods" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: DNS error messages Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have recently replaced our Domain Name Server running FreeBSD 1.5.1 with a like machine running FreeBSD 2.1.0. With the identical boot and zone files I am getting numerous messages like the following: Jun 28 09:36:47 sos named[754]: Lame server on '162.0.15.199.in-addr.arpa' (in '0.15.199.in-addr.arpa'?): [163.191.129.33].53 'QUIGLEY.SOS.STATE.IL.US': learnt (A=sos.state.il.us,NS=128.8.10.90) ' Jun 28 10:51:22 sos named[754]: Lame server on 'www.tracitopps.com' (in 'TRACITOPPS.com'?): [204.70.128.1].53 'NS.MCI.NET': learnt (A=192.203.230.10,NS=192.33.4.12) Anybody know what named is trying to tell me? I am running the named that came bundled with 2.1. Thanx Terry- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 11:05:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA18664 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:05:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nickhome.com (nickliu@netcom6.netcom.com [192.100.81.114]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA18652 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by nickhome.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA00840; Wed, 2 Jan 1980 15:13:54 GMT Date: Wed, 2 Jan 1980 15:13:54 GMT Message-Id: <198001021513.PAA00840@nickhome.com> To: questions@freebsd.org X-URL: mailto:questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2-4-2 X-Personal_name: Nick Liu From: nickliu@netcom.com Subject: Connect FBSD to Win95 with NE2000 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've sent the same message to hackers@freebsd.org but no response so I had to dothis again to questions@freebsd.org. I have 2 PCs at home: one is FreeBSD another is DOS with WIn95. They both have NE2000 cards. I want to use the FBSD box as a geteway so I can connect to Internet through the FBSD box. There is one modem inside FBSD box. I know this requires a lot of fixing of the configuration and address files. Can someone give me a hint to jump start my project? Maybe a book title or a FAQ? Your help is much obliged. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 11:06:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA18697 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonia.adweb.com (j7.brf55.jaring.my [161.142.235.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA18690 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from adrchew@localhost) by sonia.adweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA00472; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 01:41:17 +0800 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 01:41:16 +0800 (SGT) From: Adrian Chew X-Sender: adrchew@sonia.adweb.com To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Unix/FreeBSD Books... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've been lamenting to friends how little good Unix books are available... looking at the online handbook, it suggests various titles not availabe in local bookstores here, am wondering of their content quality. Am looking for user and system adminstration books, just enough of a set to serve as a core reference guide... the many Linux books my friend has are really terribly lacking in sufficient detail save for his Linux Bible. Any comments on the user & sysadmin books listed on the online handbook? I have little idea looking at just the titles, perhaps a short note on each might help in a future edition of the online handbook. Regards, Adrian Chew adrchew@pop.jaring.my From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 11:10:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA18886 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.Clark.Net (mail.clark.net [168.143.0.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA18881 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clark.net (root@clark.net [168.143.0.7]) by mail.Clark.Net (8.7.3/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA24813; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 14:10:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from clark.net (markus@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clark.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id OAA14224; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 14:10:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199606281810.OAA14224@clark.net> To: "Jordyn A. Buchanan" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Slow booting In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:37:29 EDT." <2.2.32.19960628153729.00679b90@pop.bestweb.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 14:10:44 -0400 From: Mark Plummer Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hello: > > One of our machines is stalling as it boots. Not stalling, really but > pausing for about five minutes before moving on. Here's what I see: > > >lo0: flags=8009 mtu 16384 > > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > >ed1: flags=8863 mtu 1500 > > inet 192.168.1.15 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > > ether 00:40:33:3b:d8:1d > ---THIS IS WHERE THE DELAY OCCURS--- > >clearing /tmp > > Initially I had thought something in the static routes might be causing the > hang, but I took those out and the problem persists. I have two other > systems with the exact same NE2000-compatible networking card on almost the > exact same configuration (the others have slightly more RAM and use SCSI > instead of IDE drives) so I haven't a clue what's causing the problem. > > If I hit control-C while the system is paused, the boot will continue > normally, and I don't notice any adverse effects. Obviously, some idea of > what is causing the boot process to hang would be better than needing to > manually abort something every time, though. (And I'd rather know what I > was aborting too.) > > Thanks for your help, > > Jordyn > > P.S. We're testing this system behind a firewall before we get our actual > 'Net feed next month, hence the 192.168. network numbers... > > check and see if you're using names to refer to hosts or nets and if so, if your dns (or yp) is configured yet (yet == at the hanging point of the boot). i don't like to use names for sysconfig since they're not always translatable early in the boot process... markus -- Mark Plummer, markus@clark.net, +1 410 796 1272 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 11:17:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA19209 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA19204 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA08158; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:15:20 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606281815.LAA08158@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: PCI probing behind bridge? To: winter@jurai.net (Matthew N. Dodd) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:15:20 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, jonas@mcs.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Matthew N. Dodd" at Jun 28, 96 03:19:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > pci0:0: Intel Corporation, device=0x1250, class=bridge (host) [no driver assigned] > > > pci0:6: Digital Equipment Corporation, device=0x0021, class=bridge (pci) [no driver assigned] > > > pci0:7: Intel Corporation, device=0x7000, class=bridge (isa) [no driver assigned] > > > pci0:8: Adaptec, device=0x7078, class=storage (scsi) [no driver assigned] > > The BIOS configures the PCI at boot time. > > It is not necessary to assign a driver, it will "just work". > > Actually Terry, it won't. There is a patch to pcisupport.c that I had to > apply to get my 0new ZNYX 314s to work correctly. I'm not sure if Matt > Thomas committed the changes, but I've been running them (and the if_de > drivers) for more than a month. I meant only that the problem was not in the fact that there were bridge chips involved for which there were no drivers assigned. In a correct BIOS environment bridge chips do not need drivers. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 11:20:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA19506 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from internet.spss.com ([192.35.251.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA19494 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmailgw.spss.com (msmailgw.spss.com [192.67.95.6]) by internet.spss.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA21129; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:21:48 GMT Received: by msmailgw.spss.com with Microsoft Mail id <31D422A1@msmailgw.spss.com>; Fri, 28 Jun 96 13:21:21 cdt From: "McKinley, Rob" To: Mark Hieber , Doug White Cc: questions Subject: RE: FreeBSD v2.1 install (fwd) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 96 13:21:00 cdt Message-ID: <31D422A1@msmailgw.spss.com> Encoding: 46 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I believe it uses the Adaptec 6260 chip, so the 1520 drivers should work. There's no BIOS on the board, so it's not bootable, but the CD should work. Rob -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob McKinley ! Interim Release: SPSS Inc. ! A programmer's feeble attempt at repentance. 312-329-3661 ! mckinley@spss.com ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- From: Doug White[SMTP:dwhite@riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu] Sent: Friday, June 28, 1996 1:57 AM To: Mark Hieber Cc: questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD v2.1 install (fwd) > I am interested in getting the FreeBSD 2.1 cd, but I have a question > about the install. I have a pentium 100MhZ with 2 hd (1 gig and 300 MEG) > with a soundblaster 16 with a scsii II port. I have a 6 speed NEC > internal cdrom. Can I install the cd directly from this cdrom? If not, is > there a workaround? Hm. I'm trying to remember if the sb16 scsi port is supported. Anybody remember what controller is on it? If that is supported then it should work. If it is IDE then use the ATAPI.FLP for your floppy image and cross your fingers :-) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 11:23:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA19755 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA19748 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA08184; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:21:53 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606281821.LAA08184@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: [Q] Can I run SCO binaries on FreeBSD-2.1.0? To: gclarkii@main.gbdata.com (Gary Clark II) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:21:53 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, geoid@ktnet.co.kr, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199606280858.DAA04069@main.gbdata.com> from "Gary Clark II" at Jun 28, 96 03:58:35 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I want to run FoxBase for SCO on FreeBSD-2.1.0. > > > > > > Is it possible? and How can I do? > > > > FoxBase for SCO UNIX (an IBCS2 binary, preferrably statically linked), > > yes. > > Yes, the binary itself runs (This was one of the test bins that I was using > when the NEW IBCS2 emulator was being tested.) However, there is a problem > somewhere with character sets...:( It just will not come out right even with > a wyse-50 terminal like it should. You installed *their* termcap, as required? You set *their* environment variable? If it thinks it's a Wyse-60, it will expec scan-code mode. If it thinks it's an SCO console, it will expect scan code mode an support of the "ESC [ 10 m", "ESC [ 11 m", and "ESC [ 12 m" SCO console extended character set selection (we partly support the second, but we don't support scan code mode at all). The Wyse-50 is naturally flakey because a real Wyse-50, like a real Televideo 925, which it is a superset of, does not support non-spacing attribute selection for other than field protection designation. The correct way to do "standout" in a default Wyse-50 termcap is to use "protect on/protect off", but *do NOT* enable protection, so it is just a display attribute. Then hit "shift-break" and set the protect attribute to "reverse field" instead of "dim". Fix your termcap appropriately. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 11:29:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA20019 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.nconnect.net (root@atlantis.nconnect.net [206.54.227.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20014 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arabian.sylvester (ninjas.execpc.com [169.207.5.165]) by atlantis.nconnect.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA22265 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:25:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <31D3DEC9.167EB0E7@nconnect.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:31:53 -0500 From: Charlie Root X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Sharing resources with NT networks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I seem to be having a bit of difficulty finding out how to access shared resources on NT-servers from FBSD and make BSD's resources available to Windows clients and the NT Server. I have running smbd and nmbd as daemons and can "see" the BSD machine from the NT machine and Win95 machines ( when browsing ) yet I can't seem to access any shares. I've been through all of samba's man pages. What am I missing ? Thanks Randy From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 11:29:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA20062 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA20054 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA08210; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:27:31 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606281827.LAA08210@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: java script and security violation message To: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Christoph P. Kukulies) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:27:31 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606281105.NAA18849@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> from "Christoph P. Kukulies" at Jun 28, 96 01:05:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Yesterday I browsed some web sites in Germany from my home machine > (2.2-current) using netscape (not sure whether it was 2.0 or 3.0b4). > > Anyway I got an alert box several times saying something of > security violation in Java script line xxx. > > It looked a bit like I had to be concerned about it. What does it mean? > Is it a security issue? BTW, I was root while doing this - maybe not > a good idea to run netscape while being root anyway. There are several well known holes in JAVA. One of them uses a two system user environment attack: it takes advantage of known variables in shared scoping to hack you. This is the kind of bug that was fixed in Netscape 3.0b3 and 3.0b4 (at the same time, these "sparse space" IPC facilities were what enabled the JDK to operate, so unless you run 3.0b2, you can't run the JDK). Search Yahoo for "JAVA security". There are several "crack demonstration pages" you can play with. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 11:50:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA21029 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA21024 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:50:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA08257; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:48:32 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606281848.LAA08257@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: [Q] Can I run SCO binaries on FreeBSD-2.1.0? To: weldon@excelsus.com (Weldon S Godfrey 3) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:48:32 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Weldon S Godfrey 3" at Jun 28, 96 07:39:49 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On this note, has anyone used the APC PowerChute shoftware sucessfully on > FreeBSD, in particular the SCO version (of course). Not likely. Aliens wrote our SIO code. The powerchute code depends on using the partial open hack to get the modem control port open nd in a state where reads and writes work, with DCD not present, then it sepends templating behaviour for port defaults (which we can sort of do using rc.local) and it sepends on bit 8 indicating modem control vs. non-modem control for uppercase vs. lowercase port association, since the lock files have to lock both ports, even though they have different names. Finally, it depends on SCO-style instead of POSIX-style (which we get wrong, IMO) processing of SIGHUP and controlling TTY assignment. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 11:53:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA21204 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21199 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA09900 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:53:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:53:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamil Weatherbee To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD installation problem (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Technical Support Walnut Creek CDROM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 07:55:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert J. Rubin" To: support@cdrom.com Subject: FreeBSD installation problem Hi. I've got the January 1996 FreeBSD 2.1 CDROM, and I'm having some installation problems. I know you guys didn't write it, but I'm hoping that you've seen my problem before. (I tried posting to comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc, but didn't get much of a response :-( ). I a nutshell, I'm attempting to install on a 486/66 VLB w/ 16M RAM. The only hardware in the machine is a non-VLB IDE controller with 2 drives a Mitsumi CD-ROM, and a VLB Mach 32 video board (I also tried a Trident I had laying around). Before booting, I disable all other non-essential hardware (including all serial ports, network boards, all other disk controllers, etc...). The installation will hang immediately after "writing paritition information." The screen hangs with that message, though I believe it actually gets written. I can see the partitions have been defined if a reboot and go through fdisk again. I connected the hard drive and CD-ROM to a Pentium 133 and loaded the OS with no problem. Once connecting the loaded drive back onto the 486, it hangs during boot after a fsck'ing the file systems. And ideas? Thanks, -Robert -- Robert J. Rubin rubin@sequel.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 12:06:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA22071 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hod.tera.com (hod.tera.com [206.215.142.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22066 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from athena.tera.com (athena.tera.com [206.215.142.62]) by hod.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA06919 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:04:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Kline Received: (from kline@localhost) by athena.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA00386 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606281904.MAA00386@athena.tera.com> Subject: JAVA question.... To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:04:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry if this is too far off the standard `questions' topics. Would anyone know if JAVA can be used to do local programming on FreeBSD?` Might JAVA be a replacement for Borne or ksh scripts? or perl, python, or tcl/tk interpretive languages? After years of resistance I've finallt become at least somewhat literate in shell programming. I'm ready to bite the bullet and learl perl... but if JAVA is going to be the next super-capable language, I'll go that route. The C/C++ model is simplicity itself next to /bin/sh or awk, sed, or other hackery. Feedback, people?? gary kline From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 12:15:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA22562 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22557 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:15:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA10166 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:15:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamil Weatherbee To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with FreeBSD (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Technical Support Walnut Creek CDROM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 01:04:46 +0200 From: John Basila To: info@cdrom.com Subject: Problem with FreeBSD Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 05:02:37 -0700 Resent-From: Order Information Resent-To: support@cdrom.com Dear Reader... I bought FreeBSD from your site (www.cdrom.com) & I tryed to install it after I hade linux for about 1 year I wanted to see FreeBSD any way... The problem is : when the kernel (at boot time!) starts to look for hardware the screen gose blank!! simply BLANK!. & that's it I can't do anything, I tryed to go deep & see what is the problem, ok, I hade an old ISA Trident SVGA, I installed it & every thing went gr8!. hmm .. I tryed almost everything (Even removing ALL the cards EXCEPT the Graphic card & again nothing, the card is (very strangly) ATI Graphics Xpression 2DRAM, I even tryed it with my friends computer that hade an ATI 2VRAM nothing .. .it worked gr8! any way, I relly want to run the FreeBSD, couse I'm sick of linux, it's ok but it's full of securety holes & bugs!, but it's not bad AT ALL!, any way please help me out!. if you wold like me to send you any other info about my hardware please tell me. 10x :) john Basila john_b@netvision.net.il From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 12:20:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA22915 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22899 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id UAA06885; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 20:19:50 +0100 (BST) To: Bora Akyol cc: dwhite@uoregon.edu, questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: DE Driver on 2.2 SNAP (Hello , Anybody there!!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:55:02 PDT." Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 20:19:50 +0100 Message-ID: <6883.835989590@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [CC: hackers deleted, as that is the wrong forum] Bora Akyol wrote in message ID : > Hi > > The DE 21x4x driver is NOT in the generic kernel that is on the boot.flp > for 2.2 > SNAP. > I boot with the 2.1 SNAP and my DEC card is immediately recognized and > with 2.2 SNAP it is not recognized. This leads me to believe that the > driver is somehow not in the kernel. Have you stopped to consider that the driver was updated in -current a few weeks ago, so that might be your problem? What does the PCI probe sequence during boot say? I am a bit surprised by your report(s), since the new driver should work with MORE cards, not less. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 12:23:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA23131 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA23107 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id av29296; 28 Jun 96 20:12 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa03439; 28 Jun 96 19:58 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA01591; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 17:36:00 GMT Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 17:36:00 GMT Message-Id: <199606281736.RAA01591@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: chiew@ibm.net CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31D3A5DD.6CCA@ibm.net> (message from Ian Chiew on Fri, 28 Jun 1996 19:29:01 +1000) Subject: Re: BSD installation floppy images Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Are all of the BSD installation floppies available at ftp.freebsd.org? I > can't find them! Yes, they're under the 'dists' directory - each distribution has been cunningly split up into 240kB chunks, so you can fit 5 on a 1.2M floppy and 6 on a 1.44M floppy. The only tricky thing is that the install program will expect them to be in the relevant directory, in alphabetical order, so each floppy should look something like A:\bin\bin.aa bin.ab bin.ac bin.ad bin.ae bin.af and not A:bin.ce bin.ab bin.ba bin.yz > I don't have the CDROM and want to do a completely > floppy based installation. It might be easier to use the install program's FTP-on-demand facility, or to put the files on a DOS hard disk, if either of these are possible for you. (Though I installed 2.1.0 from floppies when it was released, as my employer had a T1 and it wasn't practical to take my computer in to work...) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 12:24:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA23232 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA23226 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA10320 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:24:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:24:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamil Weatherbee To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD! (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Technical Support Walnut Creek CDROM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 20:06:50 +0100 From: Simon Dixey Reply-To: dixey-family@u-net.net To: info@cdrom.com Subject: FreeBSD! Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 05:52:53 -0700 Resent-From: Order Information Resent-To: support@cdrom.com Hi,.. I would like to Download FREEBSD (the latest version) and I can't seem to find 1 compressed file to get hold of it..... I go into the current or as your message said at the bottom of the page... I can't seem how to download it.... please would you give me some guidance because all I can fing is text documents and other bits not a FreeBSD opperation system that will run on my PC. Thanks... Simon Dixey From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 12:29:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA23448 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:29:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA23443 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:29:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA10365 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:29:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamil Weatherbee To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: major domo or something els (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Technical Support Walnut Creek CDROM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 06:16:12 -0500 (CDT) From: michael dorin To: support@cdrom.com Subject: major domo or something els I have a new FreeBSD question I hope you can answer. I would like to have an automated list server, like majordomo. I can't seam to get it to build. Is there a mailing list problem on BSD already that I could be using? Thanks, -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 12:46:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA24483 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA24474 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ab06636; 28 Jun 96 20:46 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa03388; 28 Jun 96 19:58 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA01629; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 17:45:14 GMT Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 17:45:14 GMT Message-Id: <199606281745.RAA01629@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: tcg@ime.net CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31D40D6F.3DFF@ime.net> (message from Gary Chrysler on Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:50:55 -0400) Subject: Re: Makefiles, porting from Linux to FreeBSD. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Anyways what I need is a copy of the Linux man pages for make. > Preferably in ASCII Text. ie: man -a make |& col -b >linux_make.man > (or whatever) > Something to reference for makefile differences. Actually, Linux uses GNU make, which is available in the FreeBSD ports/packages and installs as gmake. Having said that, the GNU make man page isn't fantastically helpful, as it basically just lists the command line options and tells you to read the info page (which is a lot more informative). -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 12:52:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA24894 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:52:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA24878 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id UAA06930; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 20:34:10 +0100 (BST) To: nickliu@netcom.com cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Connect FBSD to Win95 with NE2000 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Jan 1980 15:13:54 GMT." <198001021513.PAA00840@nickhome.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 20:34:09 +0100 Message-ID: <6928.835990449@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk nickliu@netcom.com wrote in message ID <198001021513.PAA00840@nickhome.com>: > I've sent the same message to hackers@freebsd.org but no response so I had to > do this again to questions@freebsd.org. Not surprising. Hackers isn't the forum for questions like this. And it helps if you press return to break your lines up :-) > I want to use the FBSD box as a geteway so I can connect to Internet through > the FBSD box. There is one modem inside FBSD box. I know this requires a lo > t of fixing of the configuration and address files. Can someone give me a hi > nt to jump start my project? You'll need to either have 2 IP address allocated to you or do a proxy type configuration. The first is easier (relatively). > Maybe a book title or a FAQ? Your help is much obliged. http://www.freebsd.org/handbook is a good place to start (if you have a web browser such as lynx or netscape). Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 13:02:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA25467 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from igw2 (igw2.merck.com [155.91.1.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA25457 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from igw2.merck.com; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:59:09 -0400 Message-Id: <199606281959.PAA09656@igw2> Received: from mailhost.merck.com(54.3.1.99) by ngatekeeper.merck.com via smap (g3.0.1) id sma009405; Fri, 28 Jun 96 15:58:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 96 16:00:25 -0400 From: richard_bach@Merck.Com (Richard Bach) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: problems installing 2.2-960612-SNAP on toshiba laptop Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to load the 2.2 snap on a toshiba tecra 700ct laptop. 120mh pentium based system. It has two internal ide controllers and an atapi cd. I am trying to load from floppies since I cannot get any of the other types of installations to work. I am using the boot.flp from the snap directory. The distribution seems to be looking for a file called bin.tgz not the individual bin.xx files. It also seems to be looking in the directory /dist/bin. Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated. Rich -- _________________________________________________________________ Organization: Merck Research Laboratories (MRL) 126 East Lincoln Ave. P.O.Box 2000 Rahway, NJ 07065 (908) 594 - 4542 richard_bach@merck.com _________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 13:03:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA25500 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tower.louisville.edu (tower.louisville.edu [136.165.252.246]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA25495 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:03:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mike@localhost) by tower.louisville.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA07597 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 16:03:09 -0400 From: Mike Harpe Message-Id: <199606282003.QAA07597@tower.louisville.edu> Subject: Colorado T1000 usage To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 16:03:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have installed an HP/Colorado T1000 in my Pentium 75 system. The tape drive is installed correctly, it works fine under Windows 95. I get very erratic behavior when I use it under FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE. What can I do? I checked the handbook and the printed installation manual from Walnut Creek. I added the FLAGS option and rebuilt the kernel, no effect. Any help is appreciated. Mike Harpe From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 13:03:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA25538 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nike.efn.org (gurney_j@[198.68.17.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA25533 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.efn.org [127.0.0.1]) by nike.efn.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA13826 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:03:46 -0700 (PDT) From: John-Mark Gurney Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: linux emulation running Doom ][ Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk well... I'm trying to get linux doom to run on my 2.2-960323-SNAP box... but when I try to run it the first time I get a broken pipe (but that is after I am able to get the menu up... then after that it will always fail with a: Error: could not get stats on key=1685024621 this says until I reboot... restarting the X server, or reloading the lkm for linux emulation... System: AMD 5x86/133, 24megs ram Cirrus 5430 PCI video card ne2000 close ethernet 2 4-port ast compat cards thanks for all the help.. John-Mark gurney_j@efn.org http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Modem/FAX: (541) 683-6954 (FreeBSD Box) Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 13:07:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA25802 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA25796; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA05038; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:07:24 -0700 (PDT) To: Bora Akyol Cc: questions@freebsd.org, davidg@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DE Driver on 2.2 SNAP (Hello , Anybody there!!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:55:02 PDT." Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:07:24 -0700 Message-ID: <5036.835992444@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi > > The DE 21x4x driver is NOT in the generic kernel that is on the boot.flp > for 2.2 > SNAP. Sorry, but I beg to differ: # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. device de0 device fxp0 device vx0 > I boot with the 2.1 SNAP and my DEC card is immediately recognized and > with 2.2 SNAP it is not recognized. This leads me to believe that the > driver is somehow not in the kernel. No, I think it's because Matt Thomas's recent changes to the de driver have somehow mucked up your card. David? Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 13:32:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA27615 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA27525 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:31:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ab24731; 28 Jun 96 19:56 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26190; 28 Jun 96 18:14 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA09748; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 01:15:22 GMT Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 01:15:22 GMT Message-Id: <199606280115.BAA09748@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: bill@twwells.com CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <4qur3j$qr0@twwells.com> (bill@twwells.com) Subject: Re: a talkd/write improvement I made Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [Rationale for improvement, with which I can identify 8-)] > : How about *not* allowing the write if .talkrc exists but is > : unreadable? That way, I can make my .talkrc readable by a group that > : represents, for example, people working on the same project, and use > : it to filter them more selectively, while shutting everyone else out. > > That doesn't resolve the problem. The usual problem is people > protecting their home directories. Then, I can't tell if they > have a .talkrc. Actually, you can if you check errno (if it doesn't exist, you get ENOENT, if it exists but you don't have permission, you get EACCESS). > Also, your suggestion isn't going to do much for talkd.... Not sure I follow you. Since talkd runs as root, it will be able to read the file whatever the permissions on the path components are, won't it? -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 14:53:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA02150 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 14:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wireless.Stanford.EDU (wireless.Stanford.EDU [36.10.0.102]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA02143; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 14:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from akyol@localhost) by wireless.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.1) id OAA21366; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 14:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 14:34:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Bora Akyol To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: questions@freebsd.org, gpalmer@freebsd.org, davidg@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DE Driver on 2.2 SNAP (Hello , Anybody there!!) In-Reply-To: <5036.835992444@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk So What is the solution here, what can we do to fix it so that my de21x4x based card is recognized once again by FreeBSD. Thanks On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Hi > > > > The DE 21x4x driver is NOT in the generic kernel that is on the boot.flp > > for 2.2 > > SNAP. > > Sorry, but I beg to differ: > > # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize > # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. > # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See > # revision 1.20 of this file. > device de0 > device fxp0 > device vx0 > > > > I boot with the 2.1 SNAP and my DEC card is immediately recognized and > > with 2.2 SNAP it is not recognized. This leads me to believe that the > > driver is somehow not in the kernel. > > No, I think it's because Matt Thomas's recent changes to the de driver > have somehow mucked up your card. David? > > Jordan > ------------------------------------------------------------ Bora Aydin Akyol akyol@leland.stanford.edu ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 15:33:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA04530 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.163]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA04520 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:33:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA00244; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:33:26 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:33:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Terry A. Woods" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS error messages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Terry A. Woods wrote: > Jun 28 09:36:47 sos named[754]: Lame server on '162.0.15.199.in-addr.arpa' > (in '0.15.199.in-addr.arpa'?): [163.191.129.33].53 'QUIGLEY.SOS.STATE.IL.US': > learnt (A=sos.state.il.us,NS=128.8.10.90) ' > Jun 28 10:51:22 sos named[754]: Lame server on 'www.tracitopps.com' > (in 'TRACITOPPS.com'?): [204.70.128.1].53 'NS.MCI.NET': > learnt (A=192.203.230.10,NS=192.33.4.12) Just broken nameservers. Nothing to worry about. Perfectly normal when running named. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 15:37:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA04808 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from perseus.ultra.net (perseus.ultra.net [199.232.56.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04802 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kbranco ([146.115.57.13]) by perseus.ultra.net (8.7.4/dae0.6) with SMTP id SAA27908 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:37:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960628224003.006a1ab0@ma.ultranet.com> X-Sender: kbranco@ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:40:03 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.com From: Kenny Subject: Floppy Installation Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At the mirror site: ftp5.FreeBSD.ORG in the directory /pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/, there are 2 directories, commerce/ and X86312/ the files in these directories are not set up like the files that are in the main bin/ directory. How can I make floppy images from these 2 directories that will work during the install? The compat1x/ , compat20/ , and xperimnt/ directories at the same mirror site are set up in a similar way. Thanks!!! -Kenny -- Kenny Branco kbranco@ma.ultranet.com N1VND-145.4900 NB Repeater Group http://www.ultranet.com/~kbranco From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 15:39:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA04900 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04891; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id XAA07494; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 23:37:49 +0100 (BST) To: Bora Akyol cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, davidg@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: DE Driver on 2.2 SNAP (Hello , Anybody there!!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Jun 1996 14:34:48 PDT." Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 23:37:48 +0100 Message-ID: <7492.836001468@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bora Akyol wrote in message ID : > So > What is the solution here, what can we do to fix it so that my de21x4x > based card is recognized once again by FreeBSD. Either (a) go back to a previous version of the SNAP which DID recognise your card or (b) wait until Matt Thomas gets back from the IETF meeting and fixes the driver (there are other problems with it too which require his attention). Unfortunately there isn't much that we can do with the information you've provided so far (you do realise that ``it doesn't work anymore'' isn't the most helpful diagnostic possible, don't you?) There are several different (possible) reasons for it not working anymore, and you really haven't provided enough information to let us do more than guess as to the cause. The new driver is the most likely suspect, but there could be any number of reasons ... Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 15:40:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA04993 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.163]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA04940 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA00284; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:39:18 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:39:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Simon Dixey cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD! (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Jamil Weatherbee wrote: > I would like to Download FREEBSD (the latest version) and I can't seem > to find 1 compressed file to get hold of it..... I go into the current > or as your message said at the bottom of the page... I can't seem how > to download it.... please would you give me some guidance because all > I can fing is text documents and other bits not a FreeBSD opperation > system that will run on my PC. FreeBSD doesn't come as one big archive. Your best bet would be to read the install docs at ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/INSTALL. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 15:53:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA05685 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wireless.Stanford.EDU (wireless.Stanford.EDU [36.10.0.102]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05677; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:53:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from akyol@localhost) by wireless.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.1) id PAA22525; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:53:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Bora Akyol To: Gary Palmer cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, davidg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DE Driver on 2.2 SNAP (Hello , Anybody there!!) In-Reply-To: <7492.836001468@palmer.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What kind of information do you need? I never SAID that it does not work, I said that it does not get recognized at boot time. It is an ADDTRON PCI BUSMASTER CARD based on dec21041 chip. It does get recognized and work perfectly under 2.1.0-SNAP(latest). My problem is that my mouse is recognized by 2.2 latest SNAP and network card is recognized by the 2.1 latest SNAP. What a bind? Xwindows or Network? Can I compile a 2.2 kernel on a 2.1 machine and if so where is the source file and how can I retrieve it. Thanks Bora On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Gary Palmer wrote: > Bora Akyol wrote in message ID > : > > So > > What is the solution here, what can we do to fix it so that my de21x4x > > based card is recognized once again by FreeBSD. > > Either (a) go back to a previous version of the SNAP which DID > recognise your card or (b) wait until Matt Thomas gets back from the > IETF meeting and fixes the driver (there are other problems with it > too which require his attention). > > Unfortunately there isn't much that we can do with the information > you've provided so far (you do realise that ``it doesn't work > anymore'' isn't the most helpful diagnostic possible, don't you?) > There are several different (possible) reasons for it not working > anymore, and you really haven't provided enough information to let us > do more than guess as to the cause. The new driver is the most likely > suspect, but there could be any number of reasons ... > > Gary > -- > Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member > FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info > ------------------------------------------------------------ Bora Aydin Akyol akyol@leland.stanford.edu ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 15:56:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA05876 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from masternet.it (masternet.it [194.184.65.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA05870 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmarco.eclipse.org (ts1port11d.masternet.it [194.184.65.33]) by masternet.it (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA21512; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 23:47:13 +0200 Message-ID: <31D47C81.41C67EA6@masternet.it> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 00:44:49 +0000 From: Gianmarco Giovannelli X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Weldon S Godfrey 3 CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux passwd -> FBSD passwd utility References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Weldon S Godfrey 3 wrote: > > I would like to setup a FBSD box to replace an Linux system, but there is > the issue of porting the passwords over. Does anyone have, or know where > to get, an utility/method to import linux passwords into a FreeBSD box? > Someone told me there was a FAQ about this with a Perl script to do the change ... But I am still searching :-) Please If you can find it ... let me know.. -- Regards... +-------------------------------------+--------------------+ | Internet: gmarco@masternet.it | ,,, | | Internet: gmarco@nettuno.it | (o o) | | BIX : ggiovannelli@bix.com | ---oo0-(_)-0oo--- | | http://www.masternet.it/dsc/gmarco | Gianmarco | +-------------------------------------+--------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 16:34:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA10184 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 16:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA10171 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 16:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-15.ime.net [206.231.148.144]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA08861; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 19:33:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31D46BF7.5EC@ime.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 19:34:15 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Raynard CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Makefiles, porting from Linux to FreeBSD. References: <199606281745.RAA01629@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James Raynard wrote: > > > Anyways what I need is a copy of the Linux man pages for make. > > Preferably in ASCII Text. ie: man -a make |& col -b >linux_make.man > > (or whatever) > > Something to reference for makefile differences. > > Actually, Linux uses GNU make, which is available in the FreeBSD > ports/packages and installs as gmake. > > Having said that, the GNU make man page isn't fantastically helpful, > as it basically just lists the command line options and tells you to > read the info page (which is a lot more informative). > Thanks. What I needed was the command line options. Installing gmake did the trick. :) I was unaware that Linux used gnu make. Thanks to all. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 17:27:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA19074 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 17:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA19058; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 17:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id BAA07903; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 01:22:18 +0100 (BST) To: Bora Akyol cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, davidg@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: DE Driver on 2.2 SNAP (Hello , Anybody there!!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Jun 1996 15:53:37 PDT." Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 01:22:16 +0100 Message-ID: <7901.836007736@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bora Akyol wrote in message ID : > What kind of information do you need? I believe I said in my first reply to you to include information relating to the PCI probe phase of the kernel boot sequence. It MAY hold information relating to why the card isn't detected. Is your PCI bus detected, for instance? > I never SAID that it does not work, I said that it does not get recognized > at boot time. If it doesn't get recognised, it can't work :-) > Can I compile a 2.2 kernel on a 2.1 machine and if so where is the source > file and how can I retrieve it. That won't help. You'll end up with the same problem. The mouse driver is different between the two versions, as is the de0 driver... You'll have to either back-port the bus-mouse driver from -current to -stable or back out the de0 upgrade in -current. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 17:39:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA19336 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 17:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA19331 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 17:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA25831; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 20:39:29 -0400 Received: (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA12697; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 20:41:02 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 20:41:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Jamil Weatherbee cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Problem with FreeBSD (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Jamil Weatherbee wrote: > Dear Reader... "Reader" in this instance is a mailing list which resends your message to very many people. Walnut Creek CDROM does provide support for FreeBSD (or, so I'm lead to believe, at least); rather, technical support is provided by volunteers reading the newsgroups, or the freebsd-questions mailing list (questions@freebsd.org). > I bought FreeBSD from your site (www.cdrom.com) & I tryed to install it > after I hade linux for about 1 year I wanted to see FreeBSD any way... Our site is really www.freebsd.org. www.cdrom.com is Walnut Creek's site. I think www.freebsd.org is provided c/o Walnut Creek, but they are two different groups. > The problem is when the kernel (at boot time!) starts to look for > hardware the screen gose blank!! simply BLANK!. & that's it I can't do > anything, I tryed to go deep & see what is the problem, ok, I hade an > old ISA Trident SVGA, I installed it & every thing went gr8!. Sounds like the problem with ATI Mach 64 cards described in the FAQ. > hmm .. I tryed almost everything (Even removing ALL the cards EXCEPT > the Graphic card & again nothing, the card is (very strangly) ATI > Graphics Xpression 2DRAM, I even tryed it with my friends computer that > hade an ATI 2VRAM nothing .. .it worked gr8! Ahh, yes! It is the ATI Mach 64 com 3 conflict! The FAQ has the following to say: _________________________________________________________________ 7.11. When I boot FreeBSD with my ATI Mach 64 videocard the following happens: when the system probes the hardware during boot the screen goes black and synchronization is lost and I'm not even using X! What's the problem?! The problem is that the ATI Mach 64 uses address 2e8, and the fourth serial port does too. Due to a bug (feature?) in the sio.c driver it will touch this port even if you don't have the fourth serial port, and even if you disable sio3 (the fourth port) which normally uses this address. _________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ 7.12. What's the solution or workaround for this problem? Until the bug has been fixed, you can use this workaround: 1. Enter -c at the bootprompt. [ the kernel goes into configuration mode ] 2. Disable sio0, sio1, sio2 and sio3 (all of them). This way the sio driver doesn't get activated -> no problems. 3. Type exit to continue booting. _________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ 7.13. The workaround works fine, but now I want to use my serial ports. You'll have to build a new kernel with the following modification: in /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/sio.c find the one occurrence of the string 0x2e8 and remove that string and the preceding comma (keep the trailing comma). Now follow the normal procedure of building a new kernel. _________________________________________________________________ > any way, I relly want to run the FreeBSD, couse I'm sick of linux, it's > ok but it's full of securety holes & bugs!, but it's not bad AT ALL!, > any way please help me out!. if you wold like me to send you any other > info about my hardware please tell me. I realize you're in Israel, but I would like to make a couple of requests... point #1. I (and probably most other people, too) try to limit the amount of time I spend reading one message. When that message is less-well written, I am more tempted to skip over it to save time (poorly written messages take exponentially longer to read). request #1. Always try to insert a newline every 60, 70, or so columns. When people finally realize that html is the best format to send mail in, this will no longer be necessary, but until then... request #2. Some spelling mistakes are unavoidable. Ty;0s happen, memory fails, etc.. However, had you used `had', `goes', and `really' instead of `hade', `gose', and `relly', I would have been able to read you message much more easily. Little things such as `securety' don't really matter (I even let some people get away with `color' ;), but it took me a couple seconds to realize that you weren't talking about hell, geese, or bikes because of the mentioned three. request #3. The following is not a sentence: > any way, I relly want to run the FreeBSD, couse I'm sick of linux, it's > ok but it's full of securety holes & bugs!, but it's not bad AT ALL!, > any way please help me out!. It's not a sentence...it's at least two sentences, and should be three or more sentences! I'm tempted to rewrite it for you, but that'd probably be a little rude... :) Anyways, I'm honestly not trying to pick apart your question. The three things are just things that would honestly enable me to read your message quickly and clearly (in addition to telling me that you are interested enough in getting an answer to put the effort into writing a good question). It's quite possible that I'm totally alone in that, but I wouldn't gamble too much on it. ;) I hope the quoted sections of the FAQ answer your question. The FAQ, IMHO, is getting a little clunky in the section listing the questions is very hard to read...sorta fat and overgrown... -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 18:31:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA22179 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aeffle.Stanford.EDU (sequence.Stanford.EDU [171.65.76.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA22173 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by aeffle.Stanford.EDU; id AA18491; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:31:33 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:31:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Howard Lew To: Jeffrey Wheat Cc: Eduardo Costa , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cyrix Processors In-Reply-To: <199606281559.LAA05374@tad.cetlink.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Jeffrey Wheat wrote: > I have upgraded 2 of my servers to the P166+ (Cyrix) and FIC PA-2002 mainboards. > I have had some problems with this. For starters, a kernel compiled with only > the I586_CPU will not boot. When compiled with both the I486_CPU and I586_CPU > options, the kernel will boot, but the cpu is identified as a 486 cpu. Next, > X will not start using xinit. I have to start X with xdm to get things to go. > WHen I was using an AMD DX4-100 CPU, X would start and the system would then > perform well. I have tried to compare the performance of the AMD and the Cyrix > chips, as well as with a P100 machine (all identical OS and periphials) and the > P100 outperforms both. I am also interested in other peoples results as I can > not justify upgrading anymore machines at this time. Lastly, the Cyrix machine > will randomly crash without any logs or warnings. This is unpredictable. > > Regards, > Jeff > > > Although the PA-2002 board has jumper settings for 166+, it may not officially support the P166+ chip. Last time I checked Cyrix's web site, the fastest I saw was the 6x86 P150+. However, it does support the Pentium 133 & 166. You might want to flash the bios to the latest version. If that doesn't work you might want to drop the speed to P150+ and see if the problems go away. ---- || Shoppers Network BEST PRICES, FULLY x86 COMPATIBLE & FAST!!! || PO BOX 16627 Cyrix 686s now available! || San Francisco, CA 94116 Email - info@shoppersnet.com | ------------------------------> WWW - http://www2.shoppersnet.com -------------------------------> WWW - http://www.shoppersnet.com/shopping From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 18:37:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA22739 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aeffle.Stanford.EDU (sequence.Stanford.EDU [171.65.76.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA22726 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by aeffle.Stanford.EDU; id AA05949; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:37:05 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:37:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Howard Lew To: "M. L. Dodson" Cc: jeff@tad.cetlink.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Cyrix Processors In-Reply-To: <199606281724.MAA26064@beowulf.utmb.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, M. L. Dodson wrote: > > [deleted] > > > > I have upgraded 2 of my servers to the P166+ (Cyrix) and FIC PA-2002 mainboards. > > I have the same motherboard (I'm pretty sure) running with a genuine Intel > P75. The stress test I use is to run bonnie in a loop with a 32MB file. > Adaptec 2940 (not UW) with an IBM 512MB scsi disk. Only other card is > the video. This with 2.1R. > > > I have had some problems with this. For starters, a kernel compiled with only > > the I586_CPU will not boot. When compiled with both the I486_CPU and I586_CPU > > options, the kernel will boot, but the cpu is identified as a 486 cpu. Next, > > X will not start using xinit. I have to start X with xdm to get things to go. > > WHen I was using an AMD DX4-100 CPU, X would start and the system would then > > perform well. I have tried to compare the performance of the AMD and the Cyrix > > chips, as well as with a P100 machine (all identical OS and periphials) and the > > P100 outperforms both. I am also interested in other peoples results as I can > > not justify upgrading anymore machines at this time. Lastly, the Cyrix machine > > will randomly crash without any logs or warnings. This is unpredictable. > > > > Mine does the same if the external cache is enabled (two different sets of > chips -- 15ns -- tried.) With ext. cache disabled, two tests went more than > 12 hrs without crashing. 8MB of 70ns memory. Sometimes a SCSI bus reset > error message is logged to the console, but mostly it just silently dies. > With cache enabled I never got longer than 7 hr into a run. > > I suspect this motherboard is very marginal. 75mhz is not fast nowadays. There's a CMOS setting that must be set right for Adaptec 2940 and PA-2002 users. Please see the manual. If it is not there, I'll repost it again. I posted the fix about a week ago (you may want to check some of the messages that have gone by this mailing list). ---- || Shoppers Network BEST PRICES, FULLY x86 COMPATIBLE & FAST!!! || PO BOX 16627 Cyrix 686s now available! || San Francisco, CA 94116 Email - info@shoppersnet.com | ------------------------------> WWW - http://www2.shoppersnet.com -------------------------------> WWW - http://www.shoppersnet.com/shopping From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 18:37:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA22904 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA22890 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ab05843; 29 Jun 96 2:37 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa09535; 29 Jun 96 2:11 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA06543; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 23:07:13 GMT Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 23:07:13 GMT Message-Id: <199606282307.XAA06543@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: dixey-family@u-net.net CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Jamil Weatherbee on Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:24:39 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: FreeBSD! (fwd) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I would like to Download FREEBSD (the latest version) and I can't seem > to find 1 compressed file to get hold of it..... It doesn't come as a single compressed file. The simplest way to do it is to download the boot.flp file from the floppies directory, use rawrite.exe to make a boot floppy from it, and reboot with the floppy in the drive. If you're connected to the Internet at the time, the installation program will FTP down all the other files it needs. > I go into the current > or as your message said at the bottom of the page... I can't seem how > to download it.... please would you give me some guidance because all > I can fing is text documents and other bits not a FreeBSD opperation > system that will run on my PC. Download the text documents and read them carefully - they're there to help you. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 19:03:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA24990 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 19:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA24985 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 19:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ab09563; 29 Jun 96 3:03 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa09496; 29 Jun 96 2:11 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA06532; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 22:57:49 GMT Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 22:57:49 GMT Message-Id: <199606282257.WAA06532@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from John-Mark Gurney on Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:03:46 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: linux emulation running Doom ][ Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > well... I'm trying to get linux doom to run on my 2.2-960323-SNAP box... > but when I try to run it the first time I get a broken pipe (but that is > after I am able to get the menu up... then after that it will always fail > with a: > Error: could not get stats on key=1685024621 > > this says until I reboot... restarting the X server, or reloading the lkm > for linux emulation... At a guess, you don't have the SYSV IPC options enabled in your kernel? -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 20:32:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA29748 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 20:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA29743 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 20:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp47.bcpl.lib.md.us by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA04176; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 23:32:53 +0500 Received: by ppp47.bcpl.lib.md.us with Microsoft Mail id <01BB654A.30C32020@ppp47.bcpl.lib.md.us>; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 23:33:20 -0400 Message-Id: <01BB654A.30C32020@ppp47.bcpl.lib.md.us> From: Anil John To: "'Greg Lehey'" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Compiling kernel for ATAPI CD-ROM error - fatal signal 11- what is it? Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 23:33:19 -0400 Encoding: 26 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greg Lehey[SMTP:grog@lemis.de] wrote: > >OK, at a guess I'd change these ones: > >> Cache Timing Control: Normal*/Fast/Turbo >> DRAM Timing Control: Normal*/Fast >> Fast DRAM: Enabled/Disabled* > >If that fixes the problem, it will also slightly slow down the machine >(probably not enough to be noticable). If you really want to squeeze >out the last 0.5% performance, you can then gradually try speeding >things up. The trouble is, you can easily get the machine into a >marginally unstable situation where it fails in strange ways only when >your back it turned. > It works!!! I just compiled a new kernel with no problem...Actually what I did was use the BIOS defaults for that page which included the above settings...I really did not see any visible performance hits. So I think I'll leave it where it is... Greg, thanks for all of your help... Anil From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 21:18:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA02567 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 21:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bdd.net ([207.61.78.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02556 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 21:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by bdd.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA06307 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 00:18:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 00:18:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Stein To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: top reports inaccurate swapinfo Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Although I compiled top again right after building a new kernel, it is displaying swap info that is *completely* wrong. With 30 or 40 processes swapped out, top tells me that only 64k of swap is in use. What kind of things should I look toward here? From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 21:31:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA03399 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 21:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haven.ios.com (root@haven.ios.com [198.4.75.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA03390 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 21:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from maxy@localhost) by haven.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA25832 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 00:31:31 -0400 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 00:31:31 -0400 From: Max Karesev Message-Id: <199606290431.AAA25832@haven.ios.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD_Q Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Walnut Creek! I have installed FreeBSD on my PC and I have the following problem. BSD is installed on master hard drive (1083.8Mb) and shares the drive with DOS. DOS partition is located at the beginning of the drive and ends properly so that BSD's /root is within the first 1024 cylinders. However, it seems that disk giometry is wrong. BSD only boots IF it was the default. Otherwise, if the default is DOS and I press F2 for BSD, it hangs, and I only can bootstrap from a floppy and then notify the kernel about the boot partition. My hard drive is WD Caviar AC21000. According to its manual, it has 2100 actual cyls, 16 heads, 63 sect./track. And it is the same as was initially recognized by CMOS setup. However, when installing BSD, the partition manager gives me this geometry: 525 cyls, 64 heads, 63 sect. It does not work. Neither does the manual-given geometry. Another detail: Norton Utilities says: 64 sides, 524 tracks, 63 sect/trk. Which (if any) is correct geometry? How can I figure it out? I tried a number of possible geometries. Are there any tools which could give me the correct info? Why does Norton say "524" while BSD says "525"? I am stuck. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 22:05:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA05229 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 22:05:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wireless.Stanford.EDU (wireless.Stanford.EDU [36.10.0.102]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA05224; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 22:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from akyol@localhost) by wireless.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.1) id WAA25055; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 22:05:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 22:05:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Bora Akyol To: Gary Palmer cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, davidg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DE Driver on 2.2 SNAP (Hello , Anybody there!!) In-Reply-To: <7901.836007736@palmer.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The PCI bus is recognized and so is my PCI video card and PCI NCR 53c7xx,810 card. Only the DE card is not recognized. Thanks I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP:-> Bora On Sat, 29 Jun 1996, Gary Palmer wrote: > Bora Akyol wrote in message ID > : > > What kind of information do you need? > > I believe I said in my first reply to you to include information > relating to the PCI probe phase of the kernel boot sequence. It MAY > hold information relating to why the card isn't detected. Is your PCI > bus detected, for instance? > > > I never SAID that it does not work, I said that it does not get recognized > > at boot time. > > If it doesn't get recognised, it can't work :-) > > > Can I compile a 2.2 kernel on a 2.1 machine and if so where is the source > > file and how can I retrieve it. > > That won't help. You'll end up with the same problem. The mouse driver > is different between the two versions, as is the de0 driver... You'll > have to either back-port the bus-mouse driver from -current to -stable > or back out the de0 upgrade in -current. > > Gary > -- > Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member > FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info > ------------------------------------------------------------ Bora Aydin Akyol akyol@leland.stanford.edu ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 22:08:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA05354 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 22:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA05348; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 22:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA08026; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 22:08:09 -0700 (PDT) To: Bora Akyol cc: Gary Palmer , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, davidg@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DE Driver on 2.2 SNAP (Hello , Anybody there!!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Jun 1996 22:05:13 PDT." Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 22:08:09 -0700 Message-ID: <8024.836024889@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The PCI bus is recognized and so is my PCI video card and > PCI NCR 53c7xx,810 card. Only the DE card is not recognized. Send us some `boot: -v' output please. Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 28 22:21:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA06045 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 22:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA06037; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 22:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id GAA12009; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 06:20:27 +0100 (BST) To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Bora Akyol , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, davidg@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: DE Driver on 2.2 SNAP (Hello , Anybody there!!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Jun 1996 22:08:09 PDT." <8024.836024889@time.cdrom.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 06:20:26 +0100 Message-ID: <12007.836025626@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote in message ID <8024.836024889@time.cdrom.com>: > > The PCI bus is recognized and so is my PCI video card and > > PCI NCR 53c7xx,810 card. Only the DE card is not recognized. > > Send us some `boot: -v' output please. And if you can't see it all on the screen, I suggest use of the `/sbin/dmesg' command, just incase you wondered. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 01:06:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA15881 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 01:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA15836 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 01:05:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA08323; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 10:01:24 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA22326; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 10:13:47 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199606290813.KAA22326@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: java script and security violation message To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 10:13:46 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de, freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606281827.LAA08210@phaeton.artisoft.com> from Terry Lambert at "Jun 28, 96 11:27:31 am" Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Yesterday I browsed some web sites in Germany from my home machine > > (2.2-current) using netscape (not sure whether it was 2.0 or 3.0b4). > > > > Anyway I got an alert box several times saying something of > > security violation in Java script line xxx. > > > > It looked a bit like I had to be concerned about it. What does it mean? > > Is it a security issue? BTW, I was root while doing this - maybe not > > a good idea to run netscape while being root anyway. > > There are several well known holes in JAVA. One of them uses a two > system user environment attack: it takes advantage of known variables > in shared scoping to hack you. > > This is the kind of bug that was fixed in Netscape 3.0b3 and 3.0b4 > (at the same time, these "sparse space" IPC facilities were what > enabled the JDK to operate, so unless you run 3.0b2, you can't run > the JDK). I checked once again, it was 3.0b4 I was using. > > Search Yahoo for "JAVA security". There are several "crack demonstration > pages" you can play with. > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 01:16:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA16366 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 01:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA16360 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 01:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA08367; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 10:12:54 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA22366; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 10:25:16 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199606290825.KAA22366@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: Sharing resources with NT networks To: randyd@nconnect.net (Charlie Root) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 10:25:16 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <31D3DEC9.167EB0E7@nconnect.net> from Charlie Root at "Jun 28, 96 08:31:53 am" Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Greetings, > I seem to be having a bit of difficulty finding out how to access > shared resources on NT-servers from FBSD and make BSD's resources > available to Windows clients and the NT Server. I have running smbd and > nmbd as daemons and can "see" the BSD machine from the NT machine and > Win95 machines ( when browsing ) yet I can't seem to access any shares. > I've been through all of samba's man pages. What am I missing ? Do you have edited /usr/local/samba/lib/smb.conf to define the shares? Do you have a guest account (pcguest?) on the FreeBSD machine? (required for browsing). Do you start smbd/nmbd in /etc/rc.local or via inetd? I'm doing always in /etc/rc.local like /usr/local/samba/bin/nmbd -I a.b.c.d -B a.b.c.255 -D -G WORKGROUP /usr/local/samba/bin/smbd -D > > Thanks > Randy > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 01:47:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA18275 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 01:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA18270 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 01:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA11696 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 01:46:04 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199606290846.BAA11696@MediaCity.com> Subject: Internet Servicer Acquired for Indicated $1.6 Million To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 01:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: brian@MediaCity.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk --- Begin excerpt from WSJ --- The Wall Street Journal Tuesday, June 25, 1996 SoftNet Systems Inc. (AMEX:SOF), a provider of electronic-information management systems for business customers, said it acquired MediaCity World Inc., a Palo Alto, Calif., Internet Service Provider... the transaction had an indicated value of $1.6 million... --- End of excerpt from WSJ --- MediaCity was built almost entirely on machines running FreeBSD. The routers ran FreeBSD and primarily used Emerging Technologies T1 cards, except for one which was still running BSDI 1.0 because no one had had the time to upgrade it to FreeBSD. The other servers were all FreeBSD based. You may find it interesting that we had originally started out with BSDI as our basic platform, but found the support so completely lacking that we switched to FreeBSD. Thanks for the world's finest OS. -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 02:00:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA19111 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 02:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prometheus.hol.gr (otto@prometheus.hol.gr [194.30.193.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA19101 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 02:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Hops: 0 Host: freebsd.org. Received: (from otto@localhost) by prometheus.hol.gr (8.7.4/8.7.3) id LAA10622 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 11:56:59 -0200 (GMT) From: Syntichakis Christopher Posted-Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 11:56:59 -0200 (GMT) Message-Id: <199606291356.LAA10622@prometheus.hol.gr> Subject: sound problem To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 11:56:58 -0200 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi I have the FreeBSD v2.1 I configured the kernel (GENERIC) with sound (soundblaster) support, and I was able to use the sound system (with xanim, tracker etc). But after a re-configuration of the kernel with the COMPAT_LINUX option the sound stopped . (the xanim displays : Can not find Linux Audio Device) I re-made the snd0 and sb0 devices but in vain. Thank you in advance Chris From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 03:04:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA22241 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 03:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nike.efn.org (gurney_j@[198.68.17.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA22236 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 03:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.efn.org [127.0.0.1]) by nike.efn.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA01052; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 03:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 03:01:10 -0700 (PDT) From: John-Mark Gurney Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney To: James Raynard cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linux emulation running Doom ][ In-Reply-To: <199606282257.WAA06532@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, James Raynard wrote: > > well... I'm trying to get linux doom to run on my 2.2-960323-SNAP box... > > but when I try to run it the first time I get a broken pipe (but that is > > after I am able to get the menu up... then after that it will always fail > > with a: > > Error: could not get stats on key=1685024621 > > > > this says until I reboot... restarting the X server, or reloading the lkm > > for linux emulation... > > At a guess, you don't have the SYSV IPC options enabled in your kernel? if your talking about SYSVSHM, SYSVSEM, and SYSVMEG (or something very similar)... I have them comipled in... as I said before the first time I can actually get graphics... it just dies... another problem is when I try to run quake... it runs fine... just that under 8bpp mode I get it in black and white, and if I'm in 16bpp I get a half screen with some interesting colors... Thanks for all your help... TTYL.. John-Mark gurney_j@efn.org http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Modem/FAX: (541) 683-6954 (FreeBSD Box) Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 04:54:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA28496 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 04:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mim (pwezgowi@mim.pcz.czest.pl [193.59.121.135]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA28322 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 04:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mim (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25877; Sat, 29 Jun 96 13:49:42 +0200 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 96 13:49:42 +0200 From: pwezgowi@mim.pcz.czest.pl (Pawel Wezgowiec) Message-Id: <9606291149.AA25877@mim> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe freebsd-questions Pawel Wezgowiec end From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 04:57:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA28917 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 04:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.jpunix.com (root@alpha.jpunix.com [199.3.234.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA28912 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 04:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from perry@localhost) by alpha.jpunix.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id GAA08090 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 06:57:41 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 06:57:40 -0500 (CDT) From: "John A. Perry" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RealAudio?? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just FTP'ed the RealAudio software for FreeBSD 2.1 from www.realaudio.com. I followed the installation instructions but whenever I try to play a realaudio file it comes out souding worse that a cat fight. For the record, I can play .mod files with tracker and standard audio CD thru my sound card without problems. Here is a device list from dmesg. Maybe someone can help me or tell me what I need to do to get RealAudio to work? TIA FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #0: Fri Jun 28 18:57:18 CDT 1996 root@alpha.jpunix.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/Alpha CPU: 120-MHz Pentium 735\\90 or 815\\100 (Pentium-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x525 Stepping=5 Features=0x1bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 31485952 (30748K bytes) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <8 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 at 0x280-0x29f irq 15 on isa ed0: address 00:40:f6:08:e8:8b, type NE2000 (16 bit) sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A sio2 at 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 9 on isa sio2: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 765 fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in fd1: 1.2MB 5.25in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0x80ff on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd0: 1219MB (2496816 sectors), 2477 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S sb0 at 0x220 irq 10 drq 3 on isa sb0: npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Probing for devices on the PCI bus: chip0 rev 2 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7 ncr0 rev 2 int a irq 12 on pci0:8 ncr0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ncr0:6:0): "SONY CD-ROM CDU-8012 3.1a" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(ncr0:6:0): CD-ROM cd present.[1301008 x 512 byte records] vga0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:10 John Perry - perry@alpha.jpunix.com - PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! WWW - http://www.jpunix.com PGP 2.62 key for perry@jpunix.com is on the keyservers. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 07:15:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA04344 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 07:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ax433.mclink.it (ax433.mclink.it [192.106.166.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA04323 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 07:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tirm13.vol.it by ax433.mclink.it id aa19173; 29 Jun 96 16:14 CEST Message-ID: <31D53AD3.41C67EA6@mclink.it> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 16:16:51 +0200 From: Marco Masotti X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org CC: mc7953@mclink.it Subject: rlogin as root refused Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm getting problems doing rlogin as root, always when towards FreeBSD machines. I can do rsh generic commands and rcp, but not rlogin. I set a "+" in the ~root/.rhosts file, but this doesn't suffice. Also, my /etc/login.access file has only one line: +:ALL:ALL Nevertheless, when doing rsh|rlogin , I get: # rsh Password: root login refused on this terminal. login: I can succesfully do the same operation on behalf of generic users, other than root, yet through the same rhosts authorization mechanism. Sure, I can then switch root, but I wish to do it straight also. Is this behaviour normal due to security issues? In such case it would not seem to bi documented anywhere. PS: the login.access file seems to function properly when accessing through a physical tty line, ie. through modems. thks Marco M. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 07:22:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA04793 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 07:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA04778 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 07:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-18.ime.net [206.231.148.147]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA07134; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 10:22:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31D53C38.33BA@ime.net> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 10:22:48 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Max Karesev CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD_Q References: <199606290431.AAA25832@haven.ios.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Max Karesev wrote: > > Dear Walnut Creek! > I have installed FreeBSD on my PC and I have the following problem. > BSD is installed on master hard drive (1083.8Mb) and shares the drive > with DOS. DOS partition is located at the beginning of the drive and > ends properly so that BSD's /root is within the first 1024 cylinders. > However, it seems that disk giometry is wrong. BSD only boots IF it was > the default. Otherwise, if the default is DOS and I press F2 for BSD, > it hangs, and I only can bootstrap from a floppy and then notify the > kernel about the boot partition. > My hard drive is WD Caviar AC21000. According to its manual, it > has 2100 actual cyls, 16 heads, 63 sect./track. And it is the same as > was initially recognized by CMOS setup. However, when installing BSD, > the partition manager gives me this geometry: 525 cyls, 64 heads, 63 sect. > It does not work. Neither does the manual-given geometry. Another detail: > Norton Utilities says: 64 sides, 524 tracks, 63 sect/trk. Which (if any) > is correct geometry? How can I figure it out? I tried a number of possible > geometries. Are there any tools which could give me the correct info? > Why does Norton say "524" while BSD says "525"? I am stuck. Welp, I don't know for _sure_ and I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong. :) If I read the Handbook correctly it states that you _must_ disable LBA mode, Seems logical being FreeBSD dosn't have any problem dealing with large drives and needs the TRUE disk geometry. Your Dos won't have any problems being that it's not trying to go over the 1024 limit. Be warned!! Disabling LBA can/will destroy all data on drive. So BACK UP! Or OnTrack crashlation. Read the section on EIDE drives in the handbook, Section 2.5.7 in my copy.. Hope this helps. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 07:36:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA05584 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 07:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA05572 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 07:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-18.ime.net [206.231.148.147]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA07815; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 10:35:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31D53F72.7D61@ime.net> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 10:36:34 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anil John CC: Questions Subject: Re: Compiling kernel for ATAPI CD-ROM error - fatal signal 11- what is it? References: <01BB654A.30C32020@ppp47.bcpl.lib.md.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anil John wrote: > > Greg Lehey[SMTP:grog@lemis.de] wrote: >> >>OK, at a guess I'd change these ones: >> >>> Cache Timing Control: Normal*/Fast/Turbo >>> DRAM Timing Control: Normal*/Fast >>> Fast DRAM: Enabled/Disabled* >> >>If that fixes the problem, it will also slightly slow down the machine >>(probably not enough to be noticable). If you really want to squeeze >>out the last 0.5% performance, you can then gradually try speeding >>things up. The trouble is, you can easily get the machine into a >>marginally unstable situation where it fails in strange ways only when >>your back it turned. >> > > It works!!! I just compiled a new kernel with no problem... > Actually what I did was use the BIOS defaults for that page > which included the above settings... > I really did not see any visible performance hits. So I think > I'll leave it where it is... > Goes to show how important it is to start out with the basics (defaults) when stepping out into the unknown! One step at a time. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 07:43:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA06020 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 07:43:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA06013 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 07:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by relay-2.mail.demon.net id aa18142; 29 Jun 96 15:43 +0100 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id aa15122; 29 Jun 96 15:16 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa08119; 29 Jun 96 14:59 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA03726; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 12:29:37 GMT Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 12:29:37 GMT Message-Id: <199606291229.MAA03726@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: kbranco@ma.ultranet.com CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.com In-reply-to: <2.2.32.19960628224003.006a1ab0@ma.ultranet.com> (message from Kenny on Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:40:03 -0400) Subject: Re: Floppy Installation Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > At the mirror site: ftp5.FreeBSD.ORG in the > directory /pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/, there are 2 directories, > > commerce/ and X86312/ the files in these directories are not set up like > > the files that are in the main bin/ directory. All the files in the dists directory are basically "tarballs", ie directory trees that have been stored in a single archive file and then compressed. Most of them have been split into smaller files to facilitate copying them to a floppy, but the ones you mention have not (no, I don't know why). > How can I make floppy > > images from these 2 directories that will work during the install? If you have access to a Unix box, you can use the 'split' command to split them up yourself. However, if you're online during the installation, the install program will pull them down for you over FTP. If not - well, they're not system-critical, so you can always FTP them down yourself afterwards and install them by hand. > The > > compat1x/ , compat20/ , and xperimnt/ directories at the same mirror > > site are set up in a similar way. Thanks!!! I don't know of a 'split' command for DOS/Windows, but I'd be surprised if there wasn't one on an archive somewhere. Alternatively, it's not too hard to write your own in something like C or Turbo Pascal, if you know enough to be able to handle files. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 07:49:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA06320 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 07:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.nconnect.net (root@atlantis.nconnect.net [206.54.227.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA06315 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 07:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from default ([206.54.227.187]) by atlantis.nconnect.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA11115; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 04:45:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <31D54212.4CD4@nconnect.net> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 09:47:46 -0500 From: Randy DuCharme X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christoph Kukulies CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sharing resources with NT networks References: <199606290825.KAA22366@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Christoph P. Kukulies wrote: > > > Greetings, > > I seem to be having a bit of difficulty finding out how to access > > shared resources on NT-servers from FBSD and make BSD's resources > > available to Windows clients and the NT Server. I have running smbd and > > nmbd as daemons and can "see" the BSD machine from the NT machine and > > Win95 machines ( when browsing ) yet I can't seem to access any shares. > > I've been through all of samba's man pages. What am I missing ? > > Do you have edited /usr/local/samba/lib/smb.conf to define the shares? > Do you have a guest account (pcguest?) on the FreeBSD machine? (required > for browsing). > Do you start smbd/nmbd in /etc/rc.local or via inetd? I'm doing always > in /etc/rc.local like > > /usr/local/samba/bin/nmbd -I a.b.c.d -B a.b.c.255 -D -G WORKGROUP > /usr/local/samba/bin/smbd -D > > > > > Thanks > > Randy > > > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de I started nmbd and smbd in /etc/rc. I probably should move them to /etc/rc.local. I have them almost identical to the way you do above. I'll try re-creating the guest account on Monday and go from there. Thanks. Randy From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 08:12:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA07895 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 08:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA07890 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 08:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-18.ime.net [206.231.148.147]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA10156; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 11:11:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31D547E6.7D9@ime.net> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 11:12:38 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marco Masotti CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rlogin as root refused References: <31D53AD3.41C67EA6@mclink.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Marco Masotti wrote: > > I'm getting problems doing rlogin as root, always when towards FreeBSD > machines. > > I can do rsh generic commands and rcp, but not rlogin. > > I set a "+" in the ~root/.rhosts file, but this doesn't suffice. > > Also, my /etc/login.access file has only one line: > > +:ALL:ALL > > Nevertheless, when doing rsh|rlogin , I get: > > # rsh > Password: > root login refused on this terminal. > login: > > I can succesfully do the same operation on behalf of generic users, > other than root, yet through the same rhosts authorization mechanism. > Sure, I can then switch root, but I wish to do it straight also. > > Is this behaviour normal due to security issues? In such case it would > not seem to bi documented anywhere. > > PS: the login.access file seems to function properly when accessing > through a physical tty line, ie. through modems. > I belive you'll find that this is desirable operation, And very likely that it is also normal! How you can change it's behavior is beyond me. Punch in, switch to root. You'll sleep better. :) -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 08:14:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA08037 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 08:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from defiant.vhm.com ([206.109.100.194]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA08023 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 08:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.vhm.com (localhost.vhm.com [127.0.0.1]) by defiant.vhm.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA07059 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 10:11:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199606291511.KAA07059@defiant.vhm.com> X-Authentication-Warning: defiant.vhm.com: Host localhost.vhm.com didn't use HELO protocol To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: DNS and virtual domain problems Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 10:11:36 -0500 From: Joe Nieten Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone experienced problems with their DNS not answering requests for virtual domains? Is there a way to make sure that DNS requests are making it pasts the router? Thanks Joe From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 08:35:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA09408 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 08:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA09395 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 08:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ah25621; 29 Jun 96 16:35 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa22943; 29 Jun 96 16:02 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA04373; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 14:54:53 GMT Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 14:54:53 GMT Message-Id: <199606291454.OAA04373@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: matt@bdd.net CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Matthew Stein on Sat, 29 Jun 1996 00:18:16 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: top reports inaccurate swapinfo Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Although I compiled top again right after building a new kernel, it is > displaying swap info that is *completely* wrong. With 30 or 40 processes > swapped out, top tells me that only 64k of swap is in use. If you're using the same version of the kernel, it should "just work" without having to be re-compiled. If you've upgraded to -current, you'll need to build top using the -current port. (Not sure about -stable, but I'd have thought a simple re-compile would suffice). If you're trying to do something strange like running a 2.2 kernel on a 2.1 system, this is not recommended and there may be other problems waiting to trip you up... -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 10:14:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA15294 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 10:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blanco.sadeya.cesca.es (blanco.sadeya.cesca.es [192.94.163.146]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA15289 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 10:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyan.infortecnica.es ([194.179.35.118]) by blanco.sadeya.cesca.es (8.6.11/8.7.0) with SMTP id TAA26335; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:13:54 +0200 Message-ID: <31D57FF5.4B91@sadeya.cesca.es> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:11:49 +0000 From: Carlos Amengual Organization: SADEYA X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian Chew CC: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Unix/FreeBSD Books... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Adrian Chew wrote: > > I've been lamenting to friends how little good Unix books are available... > looking at the online handbook, it suggests various titles not availabe in > local bookstores here, am wondering of their content quality. I suggest that you order your books through an Internet bookstore, especially if your local stores follow the same policy as here, and multiply the U.S. price by two after spending several months to receive it by surface mail. > Any comments on the user & sysadmin books listed on the online handbook? > I have little idea looking at just the titles, perhaps a short note on > each might help in a future edition of the online handbook. I do not recall exactly which books are listed in the handbook, certainly the 2nd edition of the Nemeth book (red cover) is, and it is a good choice. I believe that the Hunt TCP/IP admin book is also listed, and it is a good book, but if you have the Nemeth book you probably do not need it. For users, I suggest the "Unix Power Tools" from O'Reilly, it is probably the most consistent of those I have seen for beginner and intermediate users. > Adrian Chew > adrchew@pop.jaring.my ========================================================== Carlos Amengual - Sociedad Astronómica de España y América Avenida Diagonal, 377, 2 - 08008 Barcelona - Spain amengual@sadeya.cesca.es - http://www.sadeya.cesca.es/ ========================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 10:15:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA15331 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 10:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blanco.sadeya.cesca.es (blanco.sadeya.cesca.es [192.94.163.146]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA15320 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 10:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyan.infortecnica.es ([194.179.35.118]) by blanco.sadeya.cesca.es (8.6.11/8.7.0) with SMTP id TAA26331; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:13:37 +0200 Message-ID: <31D57FE3.4F7C@sadeya.cesca.es> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:11:31 +0000 From: Carlos Amengual Organization: SADEYA X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordyn A. Buchanan" CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Slow booting References: <2.2.32.19960628153729.00679b90@pop.bestweb.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordyn A. Buchanan wrote: > > Hello: > > One of our machines is stalling as it boots. Not stalling, really but > pausing for about five minutes before moving on. Here's what I see: > > >lo0: flags=8009 mtu 16384 > > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > >ed1: flags=8863 mtu 1500 > > inet 192.168.1.15 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > > ether 00:40:33:3b:d8:1d > ---THIS IS WHERE THE DELAY OCCURS--- > >clearing /tmp > > Initially I had thought something in the static routes might be causing the > hang, but I took those out and the problem persists. I have two other > systems with the exact same NE2000-compatible networking card on almost the > exact same configuration (the others have slightly more RAM and use SCSI > instead of IDE drives) so I haven't a clue what's causing the problem. I have three FreeBSD machines that have or had the same problem. It is nothing related to NIS nor hostname-IP translations. They pause when doing the ifconfig of the ed0 (or ed1) physical interfaces, and when adding routes, but not when configuring the loopback. They all use NE2000 clone cards. One is a 486/66 with 2.05R and, in the beginning, it did not have the problem; one day I rebooted it and saw this. The other two are Pentiums with 2.1R, and from the very first boot they had the problem. One is a P150, and booted slower than the other, a P100 with exactly the same LAN card. And the same happened under different networking environments (a BNC LAN with another FreeBSD system, a Windows 95 system, a 10BaseT connected to Internet...; everything running OK after boot). The boot time was delayed an average of 15 minutes (yes, 15) because of this. One day, one of the Pentium systems (the P100) started to boot correctly. I touched nothing that could cause this. I do not have news from the other Pentium as it is now an Internet server located away. I hope this information helps (at least to save some time). > Jordyn Carlos -- ========================================================== Carlos Amengual - Sociedad Astronómica de España y América Avenida Diagonal, 377, 2 - 08008 Barcelona - Spain amengual@sadeya.cesca.es - http://www.sadeya.cesca.es/ ========================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 18:30:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA00352 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 18:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BBS.Orbiter.Com (bbs.orbiter.com [207.22.188.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA00344 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 18:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606300130.SAA00344@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: from [207.22.188.17] by Orbiter.Com id 72ad0.wrk; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 14:21:26 EDT From: "Scott Figgins" To: Subject: unsubscribe fig@orbiter.com Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 14:21:59 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1080 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe fig@orbiter.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 19:00:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA01600 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:00:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA01563 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Rigel.orionsys.com (root@rigel.orionsys.com [205.148.224.9]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id RAA20482 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 17:43:42 -0700 Received: (from dbabler@localhost) by Rigel.orionsys.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id RAA08472; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 17:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 17:42:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Babler To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problems with ft Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am at least temporarily saddled with having to use a Colorado QIC-80 drive for backup. The tape is recognized correctly on boot and the driver has the 'flags 1' setting, but whenever I try to tar to ft, I get hundreds of: fdc0: input ready timeout fdc0: output ready timeout This, even though tar does actually work and I can compare and restore from the resultant tape. I also tried using dump with ft... and got a pretty weird result. I tried dumping to /dev/ft0 and dump *looked* like it was working, and chugged dutifully away - while the tape never moved an inch. At the end of the dump, it said it was done and was successful, though I have no idea where it thought it was putting the data. (I assume /dev/ft0 is essentially the same as /dev/null) My questions are: are the timeouts telling me something I need to worry about and/or change, and can ft be used with anything besides tar to do backups? I'm currently running 2.1-STABLE, though I'm under the impression the ft driver hasn't changed in eons. The computer is a 486DX2-66 with 16MB of RAM and a 500MB Maxtor, and the Colorado tape is connected to the normal floppy controller (an all-in-one VLB controller). -Dave From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 19:01:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA01879 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA01865 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id RAA20271 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 17:05:26 -0700 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id aa21753; 30 Jun 96 1:03 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26711; 30 Jun 96 0:50 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA05507; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 21:23:21 GMT Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 21:23:21 GMT Message-Id: <199606292123.VAA05507@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: mc7953@mclink.it CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, mc7953@mclink.it In-reply-to: <31D53AD3.41C67EA6@mclink.it> (message from Marco Masotti on Sat, 29 Jun 1996 16:16:51 +0200) Subject: Re: rlogin as root refused Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm getting problems doing rlogin as root, always when towards FreeBSD > machines. > > I can do rsh generic commands and rcp, but not rlogin. > > I set a "+" in the ~root/.rhosts file, but this doesn't suffice. This is extremely dangerous. Don't do it! > Also, my /etc/login.access file has only one line: > > +:ALL:ALL Likewise. > Nevertheless, when doing rsh|rlogin , I get: > > # rsh > Password: > root login refused on this terminal. > login: This is because you get a pseudo terminal which is not marked as "secure" in /etc/ttys:- $ telnet localhost Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. FreeBSD (jraynard.demon.co.uk) (ttyp5) login: root Password: root login refused on this terminal. $ grep ttyp5 /etc/ttys ttyp5 none network > I can succesfully do the same operation on behalf of generic users, > other than root, yet through the same rhosts authorization mechanism. > Sure, I can then switch root, but I wish to do it straight also. This is not recommended, for the same reason that you shouldn't log in as root. Always log in as a normal user, whether at a terminal over a network, and use the 'su' command to become root if you need to. > Is this behaviour normal due to security issues? Yes. If this was not the case, your .rhosts and login.access settings would allow anyone to rlogin to your machine as root, which means they could do whatever they liked with it. > In such case it would not seem to bi documented anywhere. It's in ttys(5):- As flag values, the strings ``on'' and ``off'' specify that init should (should not) execute the command given in the second field, while ``se- cure'' (if ``on'' is also specified) allows users with a uid of 0 to lo- gin on this line. These flag fields should not be quoted. > PS: the login.access file seems to function properly when accessing > through a physical tty line, ie. through modems. In this case, you get a serial terminal, which is marked as "secure" in the default /etc/ttys. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 19:02:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA01974 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA01951 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:02:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grn4.recyclenet.com (grn4.recyclenet.com [204.255.144.254]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id QAA20176 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 16:48:07 -0700 Received: (from yegor@localhost) by grn4.recyclenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA07064 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:43:14 GMT Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:43:14 GMT From: Yegor Sinelnikov Message-Id: <199606291943.TAA07064@grn4.recyclenet.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: bootmanager instalation Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello list, What should be the right procedure to install a bootmanager from running freebsd system. I have added additional hard disk recently with windows 95 and would like to be able to boot to it. Thank you. Yegor From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 19:02:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA01976 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA01955 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from io.org (io.org [198.133.36.1]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id QAA20077 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 16:29:10 -0700 Received: from mnewton.newland.com (mnewton.net5a.io.org [199.166.190.83]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA01003 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:27:47 -0400 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:27:47 -0400 Message-Id: <199606292327.TAA01003@io.org> X-Sender: mnewton@io.org (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: mnewton@io.org (Malcolm Newton) Subject: windows NT and Freebsd on same pc Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On a new pc I need NT and freebsd on the same drive. NT to test out commerce server stuff etc and freebsd as a fast switch backup to our server. on a 1.6gb drive I would assume that I should put nt first (1gb) and freebsd in the last 600Mbyte. I guess I can run fdisk from nt to switcth active partitions. Any better ideas ?????? ta muchly Malcolm Newton President mnewton@io.org http://www.io.org/~mnewton VisiSoft Corp 2155 Dunwin Dr unit 6, Mississauga,Ont. Can L5L 4M1 (905) 607 6263 (905) 607 6122 fax From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 19:08:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA03064 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA03039 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbox.neosoft.com (mailbox.neosoft.com [206.109.1.16]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA19043 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 14:57:41 -0700 Received: from cord (tobie-ppp-e1.NeoSoft.com [206.109.12.228]) by mailbox.neosoft.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA06148 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 16:56:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <31D5A667.11F9@neosoft.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 16:55:51 -0500 From: Cord Ellis X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ATAPI boot floppy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk FreeBSD: After many topic searches, it seems that many poeple have had my problem. Namely that the ATAPI kernel bootfloppy doesn't have a wcd0 device; thus requiring a messy workaround (DOS install, then kernel rebuild, put that on the floppy, then re-install) that I have yet to do. You may have done it already, but many would be very appreciative if you could add that device to kernel.ATAPI in the next SNAP. I know it seems incredibly pathetic, after all how hard is it to rebuild a kernel right, but in the middle of a clean install it matters because the workarounds are ridiculous for that one missing device. Or have I overlooked something tortuously obvious? Your efforts are Appreciated, Cord Ellis (cord@neosoft.com) From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 19:08:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA03108 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA03086 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.biddeford.com (root@mail.biddeford.com [204.120.68.142]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA19039 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 14:57:39 -0700 Received: from dtaylor (pld23.biddeford.com [204.120.68.86]) by mail.biddeford.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA13510 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 17:53:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199606292153.RAA13510@mail.biddeford.com> X-Sender: dtaylor@mail.biddeford.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 17:59:07 -0500 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: dtaylor@eyemagic.com (Darrell Taylor) Subject: ATI Mach64 cards Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Though the compatibility list for FreeBSD includes ATI Mach64 cards, the FAQ says that to make these cards work, a whole stack of workarounds and rebuilds will be necessary. (Text below). Does this state of affairs still exist? Has the bug been squashed? Having barely survived lengthy attempts to configure Linux with a similarly problematic Stealth32 card some years ago, I am not inclined to add a card-incompatibility to the challenges of an FBSD install. (Unfortunately I found this paragraph after ordering the cdrom and starting the partitioning process.) Thanks, Darrell Taylor Is this still true?: " The problem is that the ATI Mach 64 uses address 2e8, and the fourth serial port does too. Due to a bug (feature?) in the sio.c driver it will touch this port even if you don't have the fourth serial port, and even if you disable sio3 (the fourth port) which normally uses this address. 7.9. What's the solution or workaround for this problem? Until the bug has been fixed, you can use this workaround: 1. Enter -c at the bootprompt. [ the kernel goes into configuration mode] 2. Disable sio0, sio1, sio2 and sio3 (all of them). This way the sio driver doesn't get activated -> no problems. 3. Type exit to continue booting. 7.10. The workaround works fine, but now I want to use my serial ports. You'll have to build a new kernel with the following modification: in /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/sio.c find the one occurrence of the string 0x2e8 and remove that string and the preceding comma (keep the trailing comma). Now follow the normal procedure of building a new kernel. 7.11. Now everything runs great, except for X Window: my screen goed black or X Window runs but with all kinds of problems. Some newer ATI Mach 64 video cards (notably ATI Mach Xpression) do not run with the current version of XFree86. You can get a beta-version of a new X-server that works better, by looking at the XFree86 site and following the links to the new beta release. Get the following files:..." Drop me a line, anytime! *********************** dtaylor@eyemagic.com (207) 874-2838 http://www.eyemagic.com *********************** From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 19:09:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA03362 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA03340 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sequent.uncfsu.edu (sequent.uncfsu.edu [152.6.10.3]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA18645 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 14:04:31 -0700 Received: by sequent.uncfsu.edu (8.6.12/1.35) id QAA02923; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 16:57:45 -0400 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 16:57:45 -0400 From: yeh@sequent.uncfsu.edu (Wei Jen Yeh) Message-Id: <199606292057.QAA02923@sequent.uncfsu.edu> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 2.1.5 vs. 2.2 (Subscription) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Will the people on subscription get both 2.1.5 and 2.2? thanks --Wei Jen From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 19:12:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA03650 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA03620 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:11:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ax433.mclink.it (ax433.mclink.it [192.106.166.93]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA18335 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 13:14:03 -0700 Received: from tirm59.vol.it by ax433.mclink.it id aa02535; 29 Jun 96 22:12 CEST Message-ID: <31D58EB8.41C67EA6@mclink.it> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 22:14:48 +0200 From: Marco Masotti X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kenneth Ingham CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rlogin as root refused References: <199606291602.KAA05382@cube.i-pi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Kenneth Ingham wrote: > > Do a: > man 5 ttys > for the docs. Basically, it is a security issue and controlled by the > /etc/ttys file. Honestly, I'm still feeling dubious as to the proper usage of the /etc/ttys, with respect of network secure login. According to the man page, I can set secure if the fourth field is "on". But question is on what? The second field is "none", because no getty initialises the line in that case. Also, I would assume that setting "on" a pseudo device would tend to confuse the init, that would have "none" to start with. However, I tried it out, with no success. I'll eventually keep trying later .. :-) Just for the record, as far as I remember right: in similar cases other BSD-ish systems, like SunOS, don't need the secure option in their equivalent (I think) /dev/ttytab file, despite they even lack the accessory file /etc/login.access Thanks, Marco M. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 19:12:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA03786 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA03761 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CS.Stanford.EDU (CS.Stanford.EDU [171.64.64.64]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA18231 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 12:51:26 -0700 Received: from pup22.Stanford.EDU (pup22.Stanford.EDU [171.64.74.143]) by CS.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id MAA01035 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 12:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ritesh@localhost) by pup22.Stanford.EDU (8.7.1/8.7.1) id MAA03664 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 12:48:07 -0700 From: Ritesh Ahuja Message-Id: <199606291948.MAA03664@pup22.Stanford.EDU> Subject: A problem in XFree86 display To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 12:48:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I recently installed FreeBSD on a Pentium 166MHz having: 9FX Motion 771 Video Card with 2MB VRAM Nokia-445X 21" Monitor There is a small problem in the XFree86 display. A part of the left portion of the display wraps around and appears on the right edge ALSO (i.e. it is visible on both the edges). So a small vertical strip is visible at two places. I tried playing around with adjusting the position of Horizontal Sync pulse but it didn't work. Any idea what the problem might be? Thanks..... -- Ritesh From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 19:16:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA04000 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA03978 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA18140 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 12:24:02 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id RAA13411; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 17:03:32 +0100 (BST) To: James Raynard cc: matt@bdd.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: top reports inaccurate swapinfo In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 29 Jun 1996 14:54:53 GMT." <199606291454.OAA04373@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 17:03:30 +0100 Message-ID: <13409.836064210@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James Raynard wrote in message ID <199606291454.OAA04373@jraynard.demon.co.uk>: > If you're trying to do something strange like running a 2.2 kernel on > a 2.1 system, this is not recommended and there may be other problems > waiting to trip you up... libkvm being the classic. It normally requires a re-build if some of the kernel parameters (i.e. not config file parameters, actual parameters we stick in the source tree) change. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 19:18:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA04162 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA04133 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from multivac.orthanc.com (root@multivac.orthanc.com [207.102.89.1]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA17950 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 11:42:24 -0700 Received: from localhost (lyndon@localhost) by multivac.orthanc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA08436 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 11:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606291840.LAA08436@multivac.orthanc.com> X-Authentication-Warning: multivac.orthanc.com: Host lyndon@localhost didn't use HELO protocol From: Lyndon Nerenberg VE7TCP To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: kvm_getprocs() and ttys X-Attribution: VE7TCP Reply-To: lyndon@orthanc.com Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 11:40:57 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When calling kvm_getprocs() with op==KERN_PROC_TTY, how do you pass the tty in arg? --lyndon (Please reply directly, I'm not currently subscribed to the list. Thanks.) From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 19:18:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA04165 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA04135 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.interlog.com (root@smtp.interlog.com [198.53.145.6]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA17840 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 11:26:50 -0700 Received: from gold.interlog.com (kligs@gold.interlog.com [198.53.145.2]) by smtp.interlog.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id OAA16847; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 14:09:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 14:15:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Kligerman To: James Raynard cc: dixey-family@u-net.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD! (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199606282307.XAA06543@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, James Raynard wrote: > > I would like to Download FREEBSD (the latest version) and I can't seem > > to find 1 compressed file to get hold of it..... > > It doesn't come as a single compressed file. The simplest way to do it > is to download the boot.flp file from the floppies directory, use > rawrite.exe to make a boot floppy from it, and reboot with the floppy > in the drive. If you're connected to the Internet at the time, the > installation program will FTP down all the other files it needs. On this topic, when installing via FTP and using a Bitsurfr, ppp seems to core dump every time, not very far into the installation. Any way to get around this besides getting the CD? Thanks, Daniel Kligerman kligs@interlog.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 20:13:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA04120 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA04031 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bdd.net ([207.61.78.33]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA18080 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 12:10:03 -0700 Received: from localhost (james@localhost) by bdd.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA11245; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 15:06:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 15:06:09 -0400 (EDT) From: James FitzGibbon To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1-960627-SNAP (2.1.5 BETA) is released. In-Reply-To: <7446.836019166@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > want, and we are working on such a model, but in the meantime it's > probably best to think of -stable coming to an end with 2.1.5-RELEASE. > > We recommend this upcoming 2.1.5 release over the 2.2-SNAPshot > releases to anyone for whom stability and dependability are of > paramount importance. This is not to say that the 2.2 lineage is As I understand the existing install routines, installing a distribution over an existing system means some manual migrating of configuration files, moving things back into /etc, and so on. If this is still the case, could the code for 2.1.5 be left on the SUP servers as -stable for a periopd (one month?) after the release comes out ? That way, the people who have been following -stable can do one final SUP, make world, and decide where to go from there without having to manually migrate systems (which, dependent on the number of systems, could be a nightmare.) -- j. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | James FitzGibbon james@nexis.net | | Integrator, The Nexis Group Voice/Fax : 416 410-0100 | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 20:17:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA04184 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA04146 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 19:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jbrann.dialup.access.net (jbrann.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.118]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA17918 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 11:40:32 -0700 Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann.dialup.access.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA03650; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 14:40:57 -0400 Message-Id: <199606291840.OAA03650@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Subject: Re: rlogin as root refused To: mc7953@mclink.it (Marco Masotti) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 14:40:57 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (freeq) In-Reply-To: <31D53AD3.41C67EA6@mclink.it> from Marco Masotti at "Jun 29, 96 04:16:51 pm" From: John Brann Reply-To: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Marco Masotti wrote... > I'm getting problems doing rlogin as root, always when towards FreeBSD > machines. > > I can do rsh generic commands and rcp, but not rlogin. > > I set a "+" in the ~root/.rhosts file, but this doesn't suffice. > > Also, my /etc/login.access file has only one line: > > +:ALL:ALL > > Nevertheless, when doing rsh|rlogin , I get: > > # rsh > Password: > root login refused on this terminal. > login: > > I can succesfully do the same operation on behalf of generic users, > other than root, yet through the same rhosts authorization mechanism. > Sure, I can then switch root, but I wish to do it straight also. > > Is this behaviour normal due to security issues? In such case it would > not seem to bi documented anywhere. > > PS: the login.access file seems to function properly when accessing > through a physical tty line, ie. through modems. > > thks > Marco M. > Yes, this is an _immense_ security hole. If this machine is connected to the Internet, it is an open invitation to any malicious person to rape and pillage your system. Please don't do it, you'll only encourage the crackers who enjoy that kind of stuff. On the other hand... there is another reason for this failure to log in, and you can get around it. The solution is in '/etc/ttys' That file lists all the terminals (real and pseudo) and has a flag 'secure' which indicates that root access is allowed / disallowed on that terminal. By default the network terminals are deemed not to be secure, so 'root' can't use them. If you really must do network logins as root, add the secure option to the pseudo terminals, but _please_ remove that suicidal '.rhosts' file. John -- Beavis and Butt-Head; Vladimir and Estragon for the '90s. finger jbrann@panix.com for pgp public key From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 20:17:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA09119 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 20:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magigimmix.xs4all.nl (magigimmix.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.25]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA08910 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 20:15:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asterix.xs4all.nl (asterix.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.11]) by magigimmix.xs4all.nl (8.7.5/XS4ALL) with ESMTP id FAA06372 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 05:15:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from plm.xs4all.nl (uucp@localhost) by asterix.xs4all.nl (8.7.5/8.7.2) with UUCP id FAA15444; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 05:04:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from plm@localhost) by plm.xs4all.nl (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA04157; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 08:37:24 +0200 (MET DST) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: terry@lambert.org Subject: Re: java script and security violation message References: <87hgrvjf8l.fsf@totally-fudged-out-message-id> From: Peter Mutsaers Date: 29 Jun 1996 08:37:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: Terry Lambert's message of Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:27:31 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <873f3fjeu4.fsf@plm.xs4all.nl> Lines: 18 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.22/Emacs 19.31 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> On Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:27:31 -0700 (MST), Terry Lambert >> said: TL> This is the kind of bug that was fixed in Netscape 3.0b3 and TL> 3.0b4 (at the same time, these "sparse space" IPC facilities TL> were what enabled the JDK to operate, so unless you run 3.0b2, TL> you can't run the JDK). Is it expected that a next release of Netscape still has the security fixes, but also that the JDK will work again? I really want to program Java, but don't want to run a netscape with security holes; also 3.0b2 is not available anywhere anymore. -- ______________________________________________________________________ Peter Mutsaers | Abcoude (Utrecht), | Memento Mori plm@xs4all.nl | the Netherlands | From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 23:03:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA05361 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 23:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from loop.com (pma3_108.loop.com [207.17.84.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA05352 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 23:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gif@localhost) by loop.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00204; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 22:43:37 -0700 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 22:43:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Gifka Sovereign To: Scott Figgins cc: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: unsubscribe fig@orbiter.com In-Reply-To: <199606300130.SAA00344@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 29 Jun 1996, Scott Figgins wrote: > unsubscribe fig@orbiter.com Send your unsubscribe request to majordomo@freebsd.org and in the body of the email type: unsubscribe freebsd-questions fig@orbiter.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 29 23:37:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA08782 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 23:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts6-line5.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA08771 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 23:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00332; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 23:37:40 -0700 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 23:37:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Richard Bach cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: problems installing 2.2-960612-SNAP on toshiba laptop In-Reply-To: <199606281959.PAA09656@igw2> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Richard Bach wrote: > I am trying to load the 2.2 snap on a toshiba tecra 700ct laptop. > 120mh pentium based system. It has two internal ide controllers and > an atapi cd. I am trying to load from floppies since I cannot get any > of the other types of installations to work. I am using the boot.flp > from the snap directory. The distribution seems to be looking for a > file called bin.tgz not the individual bin.xx files. It also seems to be > looking in the directory /dist/bin. Any ideas or help would be greatly > appreciated. You didn't try atapi.flp to get the CD working. It's acting like it wants the CD through. At what point do you think there is a problem? (A transcript of the installation would help) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major