From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 30 03:59:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA17613 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 03:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fgate.flevel.co.uk (root@fgate.flevel.co.uk [194.6.101.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA17608 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 03:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from graham@localhost) by fgate.flevel.co.uk (8.8.5/8.6.9) id LAA05716 for hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:59:56 +0100 (BST) From: Graham Breach Message-Id: <199706301059.LAA05716@fgate.flevel.co.uk> Subject: Multiple screens? To: hardware@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:59:56 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone got multiple screens (monitors) working with X under FreeBSD? I'm assuming that two display cards are needed, but is this easy or even possible? -- /* Graham Breach * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * http://www.cybercities.net/fxhtml - FXHTML web building tool * */ From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 30 16:31:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA21973 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 16:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.calweb.com (mail.calweb.com [208.131.56.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21968 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 16:31:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.calweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04259; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 16:30:53 -0700 (PDT) X-SMTP: hello web1.calweb.com from cslye@calweb.com server cslye@web1.calweb.com ip 208.131.56.51 ident=cslye Received: (from cslye@localhost) by web1.calweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA22055; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 16:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199706302330.QAA22055@web1.calweb.com> Subject: Re: Multiple screens? To: graham@flevel.co.uk (Graham Breach) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 16:30:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "Cameron Slye" Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199706301059.LAA05716@fgate.flevel.co.uk> from "Graham Breach" at Jun 30, 97 11:59:56 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Has anyone got multiple screens (monitors) working with X under FreeBSD? > > I'm assuming that two display cards are needed, but is this easy > or even possible? I am doing this with AccleX from Xi Graphics (I think this is their name today, www.xinside.com) They have a $300 server that supports upto 3 cards I belive. It works nice, has support, I am using it with a few Matrox 4mb cards on fixed freq. monitors just fine. Not quite as free as XFree86, but if you ever give up on that, this works rather nicely :) From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 1 10:17:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA09239 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:17:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ph-elec.phys.msu.su ([193.232.124.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09232 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ph-elec.phys.msu.su id <68-186>; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 21:18:24 +0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 21:10:43 +0400 (MSD) Organization: Physics Department, Moscow State University From: Gennadi Makhmetov To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: lnc device Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am going to setup a dedicated router (running FreeBSD) on ISA machine. I expect I would get the best performance using bus mastering network cards. As I have found out, FreeBSD supports some such cards using the lnc driver. But in FAQ this driver is marked "known to have problems". In LINT there is no such indication. I know that sometimes documentation is updated less regularly than software. I would like to know whether this driver indeed has problems, and (if yes) of what kind? If I should use another type of cards, which would you recommend? Thank you in advance. ---------------------------------- E-Mail: "Gennadi Makhmetov" Date: 01-Jul-97 Time: 21:10:43 From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 1 11:31:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA13154 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 11:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.210.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA13149 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 11:31:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tom by misery.sdf.com with smtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0wj7dU-0000Ss-00; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 11:26:44 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 11:26:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: Gennadi Makhmetov cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lnc device In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Gennadi Makhmetov wrote: > Hi, > > I am going to setup a dedicated router (running FreeBSD) > on ISA machine. I expect I would get the best performance > using bus mastering network cards. As I have found out, FreeBSD > supports some such cards using the lnc driver. > But in FAQ this driver is marked "known to have problems". In > LINT there is no such indication. I know that sometimes > documentation is updated less regularly than software. I would like > to know whether this driver indeed has problems, and (if yes) of > what kind? > > If I should use another type of cards, which would you recommend? > > Thank you in advance. > ---------------------------------- > E-Mail: "Gennadi Makhmetov" > Date: 01-Jul-97 > Time: 21:10:43 Shared memory cards work the best on ISA bus systems. The SMC Ultra/16 is good choice (uses SMC8216 chip). It uses 16KB of shared memory. I'm using two of these in my home systems now, and a few at work. They may be hard to get a hold of now. This card uses the ed driver, which is also of very good quality. The SMC EtherEZ is similar to the Ultra/16, but is still readily available (uses SMC8416 chip). It only uses 8K of shared memory though. You also might want to look at cards supported by the le and ie drivers (see "man ie" and "man le"). I believe the le driver is quite good. Tom From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 1 11:40:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA13685 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 11:40:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13677 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 11:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA02574; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 11:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd002569; Tue Jul 1 18:36:42 1997 Message-ID: <33B94DE9.59E2B600@whistle.com> Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 11:35:21 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gennadi Makhmetov CC: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lnc device References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gennadi Makhmetov wrote: > > Hi, > > I am going to setup a dedicated router (running FreeBSD) > on ISA machine. I expect I would get the best performance > using bus mastering network cards. As I have found out, FreeBSD > supports some such cards using the lnc driver. > But in FAQ this driver is marked "known to have problems". In > LINT there is no such indication. I know that sometimes > documentation is updated less regularly than software. I would like > to know whether this driver indeed has problems, and (if yes) of > what kind? > > If I should use another type of cards, which would you recommend? > > Thank you in advance. > ---------------------------------- > E-Mail: "Gennadi Makhmetov" > Date: 01-Jul-97 > Time: 21:10:43 Sme ISA chipsets cannot handle more than one of these cards at a time also the DMA cannot candle more than 16MB of ram as it doesn't use bounce buffers. the best results seem to come from using the SMC 8013 or similar family of cards. if you have PCI all I have said is not true however beware of compined ISA/PCI machines because often the ISA performance is even worse than normal because the PCI get's first chance at all the bus cycles. In some of these chipsets (e.g. ALI) you cannot run 2 ISA ethernet cards at full speed on the ISA bus NO-MATTER what you do DMA, programmed IO, shared memory ALL are slwed down to such an extent by the PCI priority that the ISA starves or overloads. if you can get a NON PCI MB. just use 16 bit SMA/WD cards. (they are also cheaper). do NOT use NE2000 cards. From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 1 13:50:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA20301 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:50:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lightning.tbe.net (qmailr@lightning.tbe.net [208.208.122.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA20295 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3281 invoked by uid 1010); 1 Jul 1997 20:45:24 -0000 Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 16:45:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gary D. Margiotta" To: Julian Elischer cc: Gennadi Makhmetov , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lnc device In-Reply-To: <33B94DE9.59E2B600@whistle.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > if you can get a NON PCI MB. just use 16 bit SMA/WD cards. > (they are also cheaper). > do NOT use NE2000 cards. Just out of curiosity, do you mean generic NE2000 cards, and if so, may I ask as to why you say not to get them. We have a few NE2000 generic cards in some machines here, and have absolutely no problems with them, plus their speeds aren't bad. They aren't near as good as the Intel Pro100B PCI cards we also use, but they are still decently fast nontheless... -Gary Margiotta TBE Internet Services http://www.tbe.net From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 1 14:27:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA22224 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 14:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.210.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA22213 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 14:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tom by misery.sdf.com with smtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0wjANk-0000a3-00; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 14:22:40 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 14:22:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: "Gary D. Margiotta" cc: Julian Elischer , Gennadi Makhmetov , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lnc device In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Gary D. Margiotta wrote: > > if you can get a NON PCI MB. just use 16 bit SMA/WD cards. > > (they are also cheaper). > > do NOT use NE2000 cards. > > Just out of curiosity, do you mean generic NE2000 cards, and if so, may I > ask as to why you say not to get them. We have a few NE2000 generic cards > in some machines here, and have absolutely no problems with them, plus > their speeds aren't bad. They aren't near as good as the Intel Pro100B > PCI cards we also use, but they are still decently fast nontheless... > > -Gary Margiotta > TBE Internet Services > http://www.tbe.net NE-2000 cards use programmed I/O. Programmed I/O to NE-200 cards is CPU intensive. 486 systems will have problems saturating ethernet with a NE-2000 card, but will not have problems with a shared memory card. If you are using NE-2000 in a Pentium or Pentium Pro system, you are just wasting expensive CPU power. What does a Pentium Pro 200 with 512k of onchip cache cost? About a thousand bucks, I guess. What does a Intel Pro100B cost? Less than a hundred bucks. Tom From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 1 14:59:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA24446 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 14:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apollo.netsonic.com (apollo.netsonic.com [207.250.84.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24439 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 14:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adam.netsonic.com (zeus.netsonic.com [207.250.84.25]) by apollo.netsonic.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA16425 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 16:57:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970701170242.006bdf48@mail.netsonic.com> X-Sender: adam@mail.netsonic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 17:02:43 -0500 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: NetSonic Subject: Was some one selling some.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Intel Pro100 NIC card a while back her for $40 some buck a piece? IF so, can you let me know. Thanks, Adam From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 1 15:50:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA27926 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 15:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27918 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 15:50:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA12062; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 15:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd012055; Tue Jul 1 22:44:29 1997 Message-ID: <33B987FB.FF6D5DF@whistle.com> Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 15:43:07 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gary D. Margiotta" CC: Gennadi Makhmetov , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lnc device References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary D. Margiotta wrote: > > > if you can get a NON PCI MB. just use 16 bit SMA/WD cards. > > (they are also cheaper). > > do NOT use NE2000 cards. > > Just out of curiosity, do you mean generic NE2000 cards, and if so, may I > ask as to why you say not to get them. We have a few NE2000 generic cards > in some machines here, and have absolutely no problems with them, plus > their speeds aren't bad. They aren't near as good as the Intel Pro100B > PCI cards we also use, but they are still decently fast nontheless... > > -Gary Margiotta > TBE Internet Services > http://www.tbe.net they use programmed IO which on most Motherboards is 1uSec per 16 bit read the shared memory cards can be as low as 250nSec per 16 bit read given good MBs and are more typically in the 500nS per read.. 1 ethernet @10Mb/sec requires 600K reads per sec at 1uSec per read, that's 0.6 of a second for 1Sec's data if you have 2 cards (e.g. a router) that's 1.2 Secs per secon's data so obviously you lose packets. on a bad MB you can't even use 2 shared memory cards, because bad (read ALI) motherboards slow down the ram cycles to almost 1uSec as well. From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 2 01:59:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA23072 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 01:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.inreach.com (mail.inreach.com [205.138.224.216]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA23050; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 01:58:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp6221.la.inreach.net (ppp6221.la.inreach.net [199.107.160.221]) by mail.inreach.com (8.8.6/8.8.0) with SMTP id BAA27083; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 01:58:52 -0700 (PDT) From: dburr@POBoxes.com (Donald Burr) To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 2.2.2 and Sony CDU-531/535 (proprietary) CD-ROM - possible? Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 08:54:48 GMT Organization: InReach Internet Communications Reply-To: dburr@POBoxes.com Message-ID: <33bc1735.14487658@mail.inreach.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.01/32.397 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id BAA23052 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'd like to use my Sony CDU-531 (basically the same as the CDU-535, but an internal drive instead of an extenral) with FreeBSD. This drive uses a proprietary interface, which is *NOT* the same as the Sony CDU-31a (scd) driver. Is there a driver specific t the Sony CDU-53x for FreeBSD? There is a rather nice driver for it for Linux, has anyone managed to port this driver over to FreeBSD? If anyone is in the process of doing this, I would be happy to serve as an alpha or beta test site. Please contact me in e-mail. Please repsond using email if possible. Thanks in advance for your assistance! -- Donald Burr - Ask me for my PGP key | PGP: Your WWW HomePage: http://DonaldBurr.base.org/ ICQ #1347455 | right to Address: P.O. Box 91212, Santa Barbara, CA 93190-1212 | 'Net privacy. Phone: (805) 564-1871 FAX: (800) 492-5954 | USE IT. From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 2 08:01:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA08909 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 08:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA08901 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 08:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28295 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:57:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from cadair.elsevier.co.uk by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 2 Jul 1997 16:02:38 +0100 Received: from tees.elsevier.co.uk (tees.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.60]) by cadair.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02597; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 16:02:32 +0100 (BST) Received: (from dpr@localhost) by tees.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA08783; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 16:02:31 +0100 (BST) To: Julian Elischer Cc: Gennadi Makhmetov , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lnc device References: <33B94DE9.59E2B600@whistle.com> From: Paul Richards Date: 02 Jul 1997 16:02:30 +0100 In-Reply-To: Julian Elischer's message of Tue, 01 Jul 1997 11:35:21 -0700 Message-ID: <57pvt17b09.fsf@tees.elsevier.co.uk> Lines: 25 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.37/Emacs 19.30 Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Julian Elischer writes: > > on ISA machine. I expect I would get the best performance > > using bus mastering network cards. As I have found out, FreeBSD > > supports some such cards using the lnc driver. > > But in FAQ this driver is marked "known to have problems". In That's an out of date comment referring to PCI probing. The lnc driver didn't used to detect PCI cards. The comments by Julian about using two of these cards on an ISA bus still apply though. The problem with bus mastering above 16Mb usually doesn't have any relevance since the driver mallocs its transmit/receive buffers very soon after boot and I've never seen a case of it not getting memory below 16Mb (it fails to attach if it does). I wouldn't recommend them for what you want to do though, two bus-mastering ethernet cards on an ISA bus never worked very well. They always trod on each other's toes. -- Dr Paul Richards. [p.richards@elsevier.co.uk] Originative Solutions Ltd. [paul@originat.demon.co.uk] Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 (0)1865 843155 (Elsevier) From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 2 12:29:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA21210 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 12:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cais.cais.com (root@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21205; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 12:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.mat.net (root@earth.mat.net [205.252.122.1]) by cais.cais.com (8.8.5/) with SMTP id PAA22212; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:28:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Journey2.mat.net (journey2.mat.net [205.252.122.116]) by earth.mat.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA21596; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:28:49 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:28:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@Journey2.mat.net To: FreeBSD-hardware@FreeBSD.org cc: FreeBSD-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: T1 csu/dsu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anyone know where I can pick up a good deal (or any deal) on a T1 CSU/DSU? This is for an ISP I do chores for. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 2 12:58:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA22503 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 12:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obiwan.TerraNova.net (root@obiwan.TerraNova.net [209.4.59.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22478; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 12:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from P1mpBSD (coolholio@P1mpBSD.TerraNova.net [209.4.59.4]) by obiwan.TerraNova.net (8.8.6/TerraNovaNet) with SMTP id QAA00505; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 16:01:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33BAB3B5.648C@TerraNova.net> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 16:01:57 -0400 From: Travis Mikalson Organization: TerraNovaNet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Robey CC: FreeBSD-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: T1 csu/dsu References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chuck Robey wrote: > > Anyone know where I can pick up a good deal (or any deal) on a T1 > CSU/DSU? This is for an ISP I do chores for. I'd definitely reccomend Metrocom http://www.metrocominc.com/ -T -- -=--==--===---====----======------=======------- TerraNovaNet Internet Services - Key Largo, FL Voice: (305)453-4011 Fax: (305)451-5991 http://www.TerraNova.net -------=======------======----====---===--==--=- Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 2 13:47:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA25157 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 13:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cais.cais.com (root@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25152; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 13:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.mat.net (root@earth.mat.net [205.252.122.1]) by cais.cais.com (8.8.5/) with SMTP id QAA05738; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 16:47:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Journey2.mat.net (journey2.mat.net [205.252.122.116]) by earth.mat.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA24272; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 16:47:17 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 16:47:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@Journey2.mat.net To: Travis Mikalson cc: FreeBSD-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: T1 csu/dsu In-Reply-To: <33BAB3B5.648C@TerraNova.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Travis Mikalson wrote: > Chuck Robey wrote: > > > > Anyone know where I can pick up a good deal (or any deal) on a T1 > > CSU/DSU? This is for an ISP I do chores for. > > I'd definitely reccomend Metrocom > http://www.metrocominc.com/ Yup, found what I wanted there, and the price is close enough to right. Thanks! > > -T > -- > -=--==--===---====----======------=======------- > TerraNovaNet Internet Services - Key Largo, FL > Voice: (305)453-4011 > Fax: (305)451-5991 > http://www.TerraNova.net > -------=======------======----====---===--==--=- > Always remember that you are unique. > Just like everyone else. > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 2 18:57:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA07421 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 18:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.210.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA07404; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 18:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tom by misery.sdf.com with smtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0wjb4l-0001M7-00; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 18:52:52 -0700 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 18:52:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: Chuck Robey cc: FreeBSD-hardware@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: T1 csu/dsu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Chuck Robey wrote: > Anyone know where I can pick up a good deal (or any deal) on a T1 > CSU/DSU? This is for an ISP I do chores for. > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data > chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. > 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | > Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD > (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Adtran TSU are regarded to be the best buy. Try www.solunet.com Tom From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jul 3 07:18:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA11774 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dpnegoro.bit.net.id (dpnegoro.bit.net.id [202.147.252.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11747; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:18:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phoenix (rover2-4.bit.net.id [202.147.252.112]) by dpnegoro.bit.net.id (8.7.6/SCO5) with SMTP id OAA22589; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:23:26 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970703205653.006a5e6c@mail.bit.net.id> X-Sender: phoenix@mail.bit.net.id (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 20:56:53 +0700 To: Travis Mikalson From: Irwan Hadi Subject: Re: T1 csu/dsu Cc: Chuck Robey , FreeBSD-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <33BAB3B5.648C@TerraNova.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 16:01 02/07/97 -0400, Travis Mikalson wrote: >Chuck Robey wrote: >> >> Anyone know where I can pick up a good deal (or any deal) on a T1 >> CSU/DSU? This is for an ISP I do chores for. > >I'd definitely reccomend Metrocom >http://www.metrocominc.com/ You can try to visit this : ============================================================================ ==== Return-Path: owner-net-happenings@LISTS.INTERNIC.NET Approved-By: Gleason Sackman Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 13:16:49 -0500 Reply-To: Net-Happenings Sender: Net-Happenings From: Gleason Sackman Subject: UPDATED> New Index of ISP Backbone MAPS, Naps, etc To: NET-HAPPENINGS@LISTS.INTERNIC.NET Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 12:04:20 -0600 From: Russ Haynal Subject: New Index of ISP Backbone MAPS, Naps, etc To: NETTRAIN@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU I forgot to mention a webpage that I've recently updated: Russ Haynal's ISP Page http://navigators.com/isp.html On this page you will find links to - all backbone ISP's - all their backbone maps - Network access points - a variety of other Internet architecture information and tools (whois, traceroute, etc) It should be useful for anyone conveying information about the Internet's infrastructure. ( I developed it for my course "What Every ISP Employee Should Know about the Internet", which I teach to a Major ISP) Hope it helps. Russ __________________________________________________________________ Russ Haynal - Internet Consultant, Instructor, Speaker "Helping organizations gain the most benefit from the Internet" russ@navigators.com http://www.navigators.com 703-729-1757 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Author:"Internet; A Knowledge Odyssey" (Top-rated CD-ROM Tutorial) Available from MindQ Publishing: http://www.mindq.com > >-T >-- >-=--==--===---====----======------=======------- >TerraNovaNet Internet Services - Key Largo, FL >Voice: (305)453-4011 >Fax: (305)451-5991 >http://www.TerraNova.net >-------=======------======----====---===--==--=- >Always remember that you are unique. >Just like everyone else. > ***************************************************************** * This E-Mail was sent by : Irwan Hadi ** * Want reply it ?? mailto:phoenix@bit.net.id ** * ** * \\\|/// ** * \\ ~ ~ // ** * (/ @ @ /) ** * ____ oOOo_(.)_oOOo ________ ** * ________________________ ** * Another E-Mail account : phoenixboy@rocketmail.com ** * atlasboy@hotmail.com ** * phoenix@cutey.com ** * andromeda@emails.com ** * phoenixboy@bigfoot.com ** * URl http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lights/7855/index.html ** * http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Shores/5458/index.html ** * http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/4878/index.html ** ****************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jul 3 21:33:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA07725 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 21:33:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from meeko.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (2SDreZSWx5GrxBOCCIIoHZ/BJhro07oA@meeko.EECS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.240.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA07720 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 21:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from meeko.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (ltrtXLyBQlnI6ACDUzBAbJuvnsPelCH1@localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by meeko.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA23797; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 21:33:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707040433.VAA23797@meeko.EECS.Berkeley.EDU> To: FreeBSD-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG cc: jwm@csua.berkeley.edu Subject: Apollo VP2/VP3 chipset Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 21:33:52 -0700 From: John Milford Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone have experience with these chipsets? Are you happy with them ... I am thinking about getting a motherboard based on one or the other of these, but have not seen much about them on the list. --John From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jul 4 19:09:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA17636 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 19:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA17418; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 19:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA06913; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 20:05:40 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199707050205.UAA06913@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: hardware@freebsd.org cc: smp@freebsd.org Subject: POST card/NMI debugging Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 20:05:40 -0600 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've finished building the remote POWER/RESET/NMI/POST-code hardware for debugging via POST codes & NMI breakout from "freezes", etc. details can be found here: http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/HomeAuto/postcode/postcode.html Its pretty raw, but I gotta run... let me know of any blaring problems. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jul 4 20:54:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA20600 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 20:54:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spooky.eis.net.au (ernie@spooky.eis.net.au [203.12.171.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA20595 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 20:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ernie@localhost) by spooky.eis.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.3) id NAA21076 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 13:52:24 +1000 (EST) From: Ernie Elu Message-Id: <199707050352.NAA21076@spooky.eis.net.au> Subject: IBM 300GL Ethenet X-ELM-OSV: (Our standard violations) no-mime=1; no-hdr-encoding=1 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 13:52:23 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone managed to find a driver for the onboard ethernet in an IBM PC 300GL? The GENERIC 2.2.2 kernel does not detect it. - Ernie. From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jul 4 22:00:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA21907 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 22:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA21902 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 22:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id OAA21376; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 14:30:00 +0930 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199707050500.OAA21376@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: IBM 300GL Ethenet In-Reply-To: <199707050352.NAA21076@spooky.eis.net.au> from Ernie Elu at "Jul 5, 97 01:52:23 pm" To: ernie@spooky.eis.net.au (Ernie Elu) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 14:29:59 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ernie Elu stands accused of saying: > Has anyone managed to find a driver for the onboard ethernet in an IBM PC > 300GL? The GENERIC 2.2.2 kernel does not detect it. Without having one open in front of me, I can't even begin to guess as to what the Ethernet hardware actually is. If you could arrange such an inspection, we might be able to tell you more. It's possible that it's one of the Crystal parts; we had a driver submitted a while back for the CS8920 as implemented on an IBM card, but the submitter hasn't responded to any of the mail I've sent them recently, so I don't know what its current status is. > - Ernie. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jul 5 00:13:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA25773 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 00:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA25766 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 00:13:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id QAA21633 for hardware@freebsd.org; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 16:43:46 +0930 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199707050713.QAA21633@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Manual for Supermicro P6SNE? To: hardware@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 16:43:45 +0930 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk One of these boards just recently came into my posession, sans documentation. The Supermicro website says "do this" for basic configuration, but leaves one wondering what all the other stuff on the board is for. Does anyone have a copy of this manual that they either don't need or could copy for me? Ta. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jul 5 07:46:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA07826 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 07:46:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.inreach.com (mail.inreach.com [205.138.224.216]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07806; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 07:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (ppp6195.la.inreach.net [199.107.160.195]) by mail.inreach.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/(InReach)) with SMTP id HAA18310; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 07:46:17 -0700 (PDT) From: dburr@POBoxes.com (Donald Burr) To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: what is wrong with my machine??! Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 14:41:57 GMT Organization: InReach Internet Communications Reply-To: dburr@POBoxes.com Message-ID: <33c05876.34863358@mail.inreach.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.01/32.397 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id HAA07807 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there. Remember me? I posted a few days ago with a strange problem i've been having with gcc. Still don't remember? Let me refresh your memory... ----- From: Donald Burr Subject: weird gcc bug? I've been having some weird problems with GCC lately. This is on a stock FreeBSD 2.2.2 system. The GCC version is 2.7.2.1. I usually compile with "-O2 -m486" The machine is a clone 486DX2/66 I slapped together out of spare parts. Anyway, here is the problem: When compiling large programs, the compile sometimes stops with an error. usually the error is something like "parse error before '}'" but I remember one time when it was something else (can't remember what the error was at that time, though). The weird thing is, there IS no error (when I read the file, it looks like perfectly good C syntax to me), and, if I run 'make' and recompile that file WITHOUT CHANGING IT, it works fine! Other than this, the machine is working perfectly. I often have it up and doing stuff for hours, sometimes days at a time, and there haven't been any other errors to speak of. So is this a gcc bug? Is anyone else having this type of trouble? Is there a patch for it? Please let me know, pref. by email. Thanks ----- Anyway, yes I am still having that problem. And now I've just started having another one. Last night I was in the middle of some rather cpu-intensive stuff (manipulating graphic images), when the system just up and rebooted. It rebooted in a "dirty" manner because the system had to fsck the disks. So this looks like a crash of sorts to me. Now I'm beginning to suspect that gcc is not the problem, and that my hardware is. But what part(s) of my hardware could be at fault? Hmm... let me do some thinking: * Overclocking. My friend (whom I bought this machine from) said he ran the cpu (a 486DX2/66) as an 80. I think the board is still set up that way too. Could this be causing this spurious behavior? The funny thing is that when my friend still owned it, he ran Linux and never showed any oddities. (then again, maybe FreeBSD is more "demanding" on the motherboard/CPU resources than Linux is :) ) * Bad memory. The memory is brand new and of a reputable brand, yet it still could concievably be defective. How can I test if this is true? * PCI. This is a PCI system (yes, a 486 PCI system -- they exist). I know absolutely nothing about PCI. I only have one PCI card in there (a cheap clone video board based on a Cirrus Logic chip). But the board has IDE controller built-in (but I don't know if this IDE controller is built into the PCI bus or is an ISA device?). * BIOS settings. Being a PCI machine, this machine has WAY too many BIOS settings. And I don't know the meaning of a lot of them! (and the manual don't help...) I have things set up using the "BIOS defaults" -- but maybe the BIOS's idea of defaults is screwy? It's an Award modular BIOS, is there any documentation somewhere that tells what all of these settings mean? Or, in general, which type(s) of settings should I be checking? So. Can anyne tell me which of these is probably (likely to be) the cause of my problems? How likely, etc.? And most of all, what steps should I go about in further isolating or fixing the problem? Any and all help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance! -- Donald Burr - Ask me for my PGP key | PGP: Your WWW HomePage: http://DonaldBurr.base.org/ ICQ #1347455 | right to Address: P.O. Box 91212, Santa Barbara, CA 93190-1212 | 'Net privacy. Phone: (805) 564-1871 FAX: (800) 492-5954 | USE IT. From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jul 5 08:12:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA08490 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 08:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pili.adn.edu.ph (pili.adn.edu.ph [165.220.57.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA08472; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 08:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (art@localhost) by pili.adn.edu.ph (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA07769; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 23:23:56 +0800 (PHT) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 23:23:55 +0800 (PHT) From: Arthur Alacar To: Donald Burr cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: what is wrong with my machine??! In-Reply-To: <33c05876.34863358@mail.inreach.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I've been having some weird problems with GCC lately. This is on a > stock FreeBSD 2.2.2 system. The GCC version is 2.7.2.1. I usually > compile with "-O2 -m486" The machine is a clone 486DX2/66 I slapped > together out of spare parts. can u post in a copy of such C code?.. so anyone interested may try compiling it with same system. only if permitted. |art| Ateneo de Naga Network Philippines From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jul 5 16:39:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA25257 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 16:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA25249 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 16:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA13551; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 16:39:15 -0700 (PDT) To: dburr@POBoxes.com cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: what is wrong with my machine??! In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 05 Jul 1997 14:41:57 GMT." <33c05876.34863358@mail.inreach.com> Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 16:39:14 -0700 Message-ID: <13547.868145954@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [questions eliminated - only one mailing list at a time, please] > Hi there. Remember me? I posted a few days ago with a strange > problem i've been having with gcc. Still don't remember? Let me It's not gcc. > * Overclocking. My friend (whom I bought this machine from) said he > ran the cpu (a 486DX2/66) as an 80. I think the board is still set > up that way too. Could this be causing this spurious behavior? The You bet your life it could be causing this. Please switch it back and test again; overclocking is a very frequent cause of failures. > * Bad memory. The memory is brand new and of a reputable brand, yet > it still could concievably be defective. How can I test if this is > true? Hardware memory tester, that's about it. The software solutions don't work for spit. Jordan