From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Oct 26 05:54:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA05393 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 05:54:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from shrimp.dataplex.net (shrimp.dataplex.net [208.2.87.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA05387 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 05:54:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@aol.com) Received: from hetzels (171-14-70.ipt.aol.com [152.171.14.70]) by shrimp.dataplex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA29455 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 07:54:10 -0600 (CST) From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "FreeBSD ISP" Subject: Re: NOTICE: New Frontpage 98 Extentions Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 07:53:16 -0600 Message-ID: <01bce216$829cc000$460eab98@hetzels> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I just finished downloading fp30.bsdi.tar.Z, but I am unable to use it as >the tar archive is corrupted: > The corrupted file is fixed at Microsofts site NOW. Also, both FrontPage Extentions for BSDI v3.0 (fp30.bsdi3.tar.Z) & v2.1 (fp30.bsdi.tar.Z) work on FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE. Scot From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Oct 26 19:50:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA10805 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 19:50:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from news.cioe.com (news.cioe.com [204.120.165.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA10796 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 19:50:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@news.cioe.com) Received: (from steve@localhost) by news.cioe.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id WAA28968 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:50:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:50:19 -0500 (EST) From: Steven Ames Message-Id: <199710270350.WAA28968@news.cioe.com> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: squid problems Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just setup squid to use here in the office. Love it. Running into some applications that I can't seem to get to work: Realaudio. It used to work under harvest. Seem to recall maybe having to apply a patch for it. Some AOL apps. No clue. USR Netmanage software for configuring my Total Control boxes. Anyone had any luck in proxying these applications? -Steve From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 27 04:36:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA15674 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:36:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from support.euronet.nl (support.euronet.nl [194.134.32.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA15658 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:36:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sake@euronet.nl) Received: (from sake@localhost) by support.euronet.nl (8.8.5/8.6.12) id NAA22062; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:34:05 +0100 (CET) From: Sake Blok Message-Id: <199710271234.NAA22062@support.euronet.nl> Subject: Re: DNS Problems....... In-Reply-To: from V Gatut Harijoso at "Oct 25, 97 01:15:38 pm" To: gatut@student.unpar.ac.id (V Gatut Harijoso) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:34:04 +0100 (CET) Cc: marcin@v-m.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: sake@nl.euro.net X-URL: http://www.euronet.nl/~sake/ X-quote: Anything you say in your sleep, X-quote: can and WILL be used against you in a court of love. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I found with nslookup: > =============== > > set type=soa > > polaccess.com > Server: ns1.unpar.ac.id > Address: 167.205.206.56 > > Non-authoritative answer: > polaccess.com > origin = ns.polaccess.com > mail addr = webmaster@polaccess.com I dunno if this is the thing that causes all your problems, but the mail-addr should read webmaster.polaccess.com instead of webmaster@polaccess.com Sake -- Sake Blok * * EuroNet Internet Client Services Team * * Herengracht 208 - 214 * 1016 BS Amsterdam E-mail: sake@nl.euro.net * Tel: +31 20 625 61 61 From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 27 08:06:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA28809 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 08:06:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from bert.club-web.com (bert.club-web.com [207.176.196.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA28782 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 08:05:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@club-web.com) Received: from club-web.com (ernie.club-web.com [207.176.196.12]) by bert.club-web.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA04722; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:06:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3454BC15.DB5ED533@club-web.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:06:45 -0500 From: Mark Segal Organization: Club-Web Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03b8 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: marcin@v-m.com CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS Problems....... References: <345538F9.53D@v-m.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Marcin Pasek wrote: > > I have a problem with my domain name..only one... > polaccess.com I don't know what the problem is beacuse all other > domains that I have are working ok..if I check or ping form outside..... > for example impex-us.com so I think there is no problem with a dns > server....but maybe with an entry...any pointers or suggestions..please > help....The major problem is the fact that email form outside is not > reaching my email server and in the debug mode mail -v it gives me a > wierd errors....HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP Post your dns file up here..and then maybe we can help you fix what is probably just a simple syntax error.. :) mark -- Mark Segal mark@club-web.com System Administrator - Club-Web Inc. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 27 09:35:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA08174 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:35:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from Moonraker.afsc.k12.ar.us ([170.211.144.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA08164 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:35:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bbeavers@Moonraker.afsc.k12.ar.us) Received: (from bbeavers@localhost) by Moonraker.afsc.k12.ar.us (8.8.3/8.8.3) id MAA20738; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:53:43 GMT Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:53:43 +0000 () From: Bill Beavers To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Fatal Trap error Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a 16 port PCI cyclades multiport serial board connected to a FreeBSD machine running version 2.1.7. This box maintains 16 modems that are used as dialup for our community and this is our only means of internet access locally. The problem I have run into is that I have started getting the message Fatal trap 12 -- error while in kernel mode. The first modem when connected to will down the system. If I turn off the 1st modem (which is a rollover #) I can connect to the other modems once, then each of them seem to go down. Can anyone enlighten me as to what Fatal trap 12 is? I am not an expert on BSD or Unix by any means, but this is something I have never encountered before. I don't know where to go from here. ........................................ . Bill Beavers, Technology Coordinator . . Arch Ford Education Coop . . bbeavers@moonraker.afsc.k12.ar.us . . http://moonraker.afsc.k12.ar.us . ........................................ From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 27 14:27:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA01483 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:27:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from virtualmarketing.com (email.virtualmarketing.com [207.7.29.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA01476 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:27:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcin@v-m.com) Received: from v-m.com (207.7.29.107) by virtualmarketing.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2b2); Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:28:06 -0600 Message-ID: <345515AB.3EA841D6@v-m.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:28:59 -0600 From: Marcin Pasek Reply-To: marcin@v-m.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd Subject: Startup NAMED.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I want to startup NAMED on the computer Startup...What file should I Edit....I did this once for something .... Marcin From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 27 14:46:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA02586 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:46:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from virtualmarketing.com (email.virtualmarketing.com [207.7.29.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA02574 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:46:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcin@v-m.com) Received: from v-m.com (207.7.29.107) by virtualmarketing.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2b2); Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:47:16 -0600 Message-ID: <34551A29.7F84E396@v-m.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:48:09 -0600 From: Marcin Pasek Reply-To: marcin@v-m.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd Subject: Secondary Setup/..... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We are also trying to setup secondary ....but is there a trick or some kind a config that will allow the NAMED to "update" automaticly in few seconds....? Is there some kind of refresh setup. update? Marcin From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 27 16:05:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA07924 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:05:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from ns.mexcom.net (ns.mexcom.net [206.103.64.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA07912 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:05:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@mexcom.net) Received: from sunix (eculp@sunix.mexcom.net [206.103.64.3]) by ns.mexcom.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA20833; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 18:05:12 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <34552C2B.C6AF02@mexcom.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 18:04:59 -0600 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.14 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: marcin@v-m.com CC: freebsd Subject: Re: Secondary Setup/..... References: <34551A29.7F84E396@v-m.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Marcin Pasek wrote: > > We are also trying to setup secondary ....but is there a trick or some > kind a config that will allow the NAMED to "update" automaticly in few > seconds....? Is there some kind of refresh setup. update? > > Marcin I assume you mean /usr/sbin/named.reload or /usr/sbin/named.restart or kill -HUP `cat /var/run/named.pid` ? I also do a tail /var/log/messages to see any errors :-) Ed From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 27 16:22:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA08881 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:22:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from hotmail.com (F64.hotmail.com [207.82.250.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA08876 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:22:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from un_x@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 22180 invoked by uid 0); 28 Oct 1997 00:22:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19971028002210.22179.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 137.229.17.253 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:22:09 PST X-Originating-IP: [137.229.17.253] From: "steve howe" To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: cable-tel-isp companies Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:22:09 PST Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i apologize if this isn't exactly the the right forum for this question, but i didn't know where i'd get a better answer. i would appreciate any experiences or opinions on how things will change for small ISPs once (as is happening here) telcos start providing fiber optic telephone/cable/internet through the same line as your telephone. - maybe such a thing has occured where you live. i'd like to know how there services are, how expensive they are, if they are still incapable of some internet functionalies, etc. - thanks. please ditto a copy off the list. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 27 16:40:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA10077 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:40:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from rustler.gwc.cccd.edu (rustler.gwc.cccd.edu [159.115.129.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA10057 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:40:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mpeer@ponyexpress.gwc.cccd.edu) Received: from mpeer (mpeer.csc.gwc.cccd.edu [159.115.129.100]) by rustler.gwc.cccd.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA03992; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:40:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971027164722.00be5470@rustler.gwc.cccd.edu> X-Sender: mpeer@rustler.gwc.cccd.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:47:22 -0800 To: Bo Fussing From: Michael Peer Subject: Re: Help: Router Advise Needed Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have 5 FreeBSD routers with two ne2000 ISA cards in them. 4 are running 2.1.0 and the other is new and I am going to run 2.2.2. Most of them are 385DX-25MHz. with 400MB IDE drive. One of the 2.1.0 systems is running on 150 days, the last time I check, (we had a power outage). I have no hard numbers on throughput, but they work, and have been _extremely_ reliable. I am very happy, my boss is happy, and the accountants are happy I didn't have to spend big bucks on dedicated routers. At 10:33 AM 10/25/97 +0800, you wrote: >> On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, Jaysen O'Dell wrote: >> >> > Ok I see all you guys with "fancy" NICs. Outside of the obvious PCI vs >> > ISA, 10 vs 100, what is the differance? This is a question based on >> > ignorance so please be gentle. I have been using ne2000 and clones and >> > never had any problems that could be associated with the NIC. Granted I am >> > not nearly as big as most of you, but if this is just a disaster waiting >> > to happen.... Ships with holes don't float. >> > >> > Jaysen > >We have a Linux box with 3 3C509s, whilst I cannot claim that they are >faster than other cards, they seem to be very stable and I have never had >to replace one on this or any other of our servers/PCs. My primary reason >for going for these is the stability of the driver and the lack of >problems I have seen on this and other mailing lists. In my book >stability/reliability beats speed any day. > >Bo > >----------------------------------------------------------------- >Bo Fussing HomeGate Inc. >Tel +852 2851-8884 Fax +852 2541-9843 URL http://www.homegate.net >PGP fingerprint = D7 9F ED 1D E5 B9 62 4F 77 BC D1 33 5B 4E 95 81 >For PGP ID & Signature mail empty message to bmf-pgp@homegate.net > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Peer Data Electronics Technician I Golden West College Computer Services Center 15744 Goldenwest St. Huntington Beach, CA 92647 e-mail: mpeer@gwc.cccd.edu Voice: (714)892-7711 ext 55067 WWW: http://pioneer.gwc.cccd.edu FAX: (714)895-8980 From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 27 20:16:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA23236 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 20:16:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from tech.kgtu.runnet.ru (tech.kgtu.runnet.ru [195.208.226.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA23221 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 20:16:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shin@tech.kgtu.runnet.ru) Received: from tech.kgtu.runnet.ru (localhost.tech.kgtu.runnet.ru [127.0.0.1]) by tech.kgtu.runnet.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01050 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:17:23 +0700 (KRS) Message-ID: <34556752.9BA487AA@tech.kgtu.runnet.ru> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:17:22 +0700 From: Boris Shinkarev Organization: KGTU X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03b8 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: NAMED started Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Marcin Pasek wrote: ? ? I want to startup NAMED on the computer Startup...What file should I ? Edit....I did this once for something .... ? ? Marcin Your must edit rc.conf to enable named by "YES" and flags for named "-b ?where_is_your_config_file_for_named? (often is /etc/namedb/named.boot)". And, sertanly setup your zone file and reverse zone if your need it. -- âÏÒÉÓ ûÉÎËÁÒÅ× Boris Shinkarev From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 27 20:17:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA23323 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 20:17:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from bert.club-web.com (bert.club-web.com [207.176.196.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA23311 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 20:17:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@club-web.com) Received: from mark.club-web.com (dial-102.club-web.com [207.176.196.22]) by bert.club-web.com (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id XAA09016; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 23:20:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199710280420.XAA09016@bert.club-web.com> From: "Mark Segal" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Secondary Setup/..... Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 23:18:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3 X-MimeOle: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >We are also trying to setup secondary ....but is there a trick or some >kind a config that will allow the NAMED to "update" automaticly in few >seconds....? Is there some kind of refresh setup. update? yes.. you just make the secondary server a slave to the primary.. just put this in your named.boot or named.conf (DNS startup file) For BIND 8.*: ----- zone "yourname.com" { type slave; file "db.yourname.com" masters { 10.1.1.1 #replace with your primary server ip }; }; ---- and in bind 4.* (i think) --- secondary yourname.com db.yourname.com 10.1.1.1 --- mark -- Mark Segal mark@club-web.com System Administrator - Club-Web Inc. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 27 20:20:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA23451 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 20:20:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from bert.club-web.com (bert.club-web.com [207.176.196.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA23389 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 20:19:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@club-web.com) Received: from mark.club-web.com (dial-102.club-web.com [207.176.196.22]) by bert.club-web.com (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id XAA09024; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 23:22:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199710280422.XAA09024@bert.club-web.com> From: "Mark Segal" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Startup NAMED.... Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 23:20:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3 X-MimeOle: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I want to startup NAMED on the computer Startup...What file should I >Edit....I did this once for something .... By default it is already started.. it's in your /etc/sysconfig file (at least the command line option) mark -- Mark Segal mark@club-web.com System Administrator - Club-Web Inc. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 27 21:33:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA27563 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:33:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from proxy.unpar.ac.id (proxy.unpar.ac.id [167.205.206.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA27557 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:33:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gatut@student.unpar.ac.id) Received: from student.unpar.ac.id (student.unpar.ac.id [167.205.206.58]) by proxy.unpar.ac.id (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00840; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:19:03 +0700 (JAVT) Received: from localhost (gatut@localhost) by student.unpar.ac.id (8.8.5/8.8.5.D) with SMTP id NAA21918; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:04:26 +0700 (JAVT) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:04:26 +0700 (JAVT) From: V Gatut Harijoso To: sake@nl.euro.net cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS Problems....... In-Reply-To: <199710271234.NAA22062@support.euronet.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Sake Blok wrote: > > I found with nslookup: > > =============== > > > set type=soa > > > polaccess.com > > Server: ns1.unpar.ac.id > > Address: 167.205.206.56 > > > > Non-authoritative answer: > > polaccess.com > > origin = ns.polaccess.com > > mail addr = webmaster@polaccess.com > > I dunno if this is the thing that causes all your problems, but the > mail-addr should read webmaster.polaccess.com instead of > webmaster@polaccess.com If he wrote 'webmaster.polaccess.com' in configuration file, but we see 'webmaster@polaccess.com' in nslookup output. This should be, no problem with mail-addr, just the way nslookup display for output. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 27 21:58:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA29095 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:58:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from proxy.unpar.ac.id (proxy.unpar.ac.id [167.205.206.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA29090 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:58:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gatut@student.unpar.ac.id) Received: from student.unpar.ac.id (student.unpar.ac.id [167.205.206.58]) by proxy.unpar.ac.id (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02956; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:42:34 +0700 (JAVT) Received: from localhost (gatut@localhost) by student.unpar.ac.id (8.8.5/8.8.5.D) with SMTP id NAA22785; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:27:40 +0700 (JAVT) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:27:40 +0700 (JAVT) From: V Gatut Harijoso To: Bernie Doehner cc: freebsd-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Connect time limit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Bernie Doehner wrote: > > I read in man login.conf (since 2.2.2?) that it is possible to put > > connection accounting time, something like 'idletime' (maximum idle time), > > monthtime (max login time per month), etc. > > But, I cannot activate. Is the feature not supported yet? > > Thanks. > Not sure about 2.2.2, but under 3.0, the third field in /etc/master.passwd > (the normaly empty field after GID), contains the class you want a user to > be in. 3.0 adduser also asks you about login class. Hope that helps. Thanks. I can add class in 2.2.2. Adding myself to 'default' class (I will try other classes later), then I modify /etc/login.conf, it only works for some fields. See 'cpu-time'. ----/etc/login.conf----------- default:\ :cputime=1h:\ ---cut----- :idletime=10m:\ :sessionlimit=1:\ :tc=auth-defaults: ----/etc/login.conf----------- -Cek with limits------- Enter command # limits Resource limits (current): cputime 3600 secs filesize infinity kb datasize-cur 16384 kb stacksize-cur 8192 kb coredumpsize infinity kb memoryuse-cur 30720 kb memorylocked-cur 10240 kb maxprocesses-cur 64 openfiles-cur 64 ---------------------- Ok. I can see that I have limit in CPU-time, but not for other time-limitation. I read the source of limits.c, it only get information about all above. Is there any utility, tool, or something to read other fields? Or maybe I have to hack limits.c too.. :( From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Oct 27 21:59:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA29148 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:59:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from proxy.unpar.ac.id (proxy.unpar.ac.id [167.205.206.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA29143 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:59:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gatut@student.unpar.ac.id) Received: from student.unpar.ac.id (student.unpar.ac.id [167.205.206.58]) by proxy.unpar.ac.id (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03945; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:44:52 +0700 (JAVT) Received: from localhost (gatut@localhost) by student.unpar.ac.id (8.8.5/8.8.5.D) with SMTP id NAA22945; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:30:15 +0700 (JAVT) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:30:15 +0700 (JAVT) From: V Gatut Harijoso To: marcin@v-m.com cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Startup NAMED.... In-Reply-To: <199710280422.XAA09024@bert.club-web.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Mark Segal wrote: > >I want to startup NAMED on the computer Startup...What file should I > >Edit....I did this once for something .... > By default it is already started.. it's in your /etc/sysconfig file (at > least the command line option) I think ... FreeBSD less than 2.2.2 uses /etc/sysconfig and /etc/rc.conf for 2.2.2 or later. From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 28 00:18:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA06729 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 00:18:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from support.euronet.nl (support.euronet.nl [194.134.32.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA06721 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 00:18:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sake@euronet.nl) Received: (from sake@localhost) by support.euronet.nl (8.8.5/8.6.12) id JAA25941; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:16:32 +0100 (CET) From: Sake Blok Message-Id: <199710280816.JAA25941@support.euronet.nl> Subject: Re: DNS Problems....... In-Reply-To: from V Gatut Harijoso at "Oct 28, 97 01:04:26 pm" To: gatut@student.unpar.ac.id (V Gatut Harijoso) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:16:32 +0100 (CET) Cc: sake@nl.euro.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: sake@nl.euro.net X-URL: http://www.euronet.nl/~sake/ X-quote: Anything you say in your sleep, X-quote: can and WILL be used against you in a court of love. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I dunno if this is the thing that causes all your problems, but the > > mail-addr should read webmaster.polaccess.com instead of > > webmaster@polaccess.com > > If he wrote 'webmaster.polaccess.com' in configuration file, but we see > 'webmaster@polaccess.com' in nslookup output. This should be, no problem > with mail-addr, just the way nslookup display for output. I don't think it's a nslookup-quirk, since when I display my own domain I don't get the '@' and with the same nslookup I do get the '@' on polyaccess.com... > set type=soa > some-domain.com Server: dns.euro.net Address: 194.134.5.5 Non-authoritative answer: some-domain.com origin = ns.euro.net mail addr = hostmaster.euro.net serial = 1997090201 refresh = 28800 (8 hours) retry = 7200 (2 hours) expire = 604800 (7 days) minimum ttl = 86400 (1 day) Authoritative answers can be found from: some-domain.com nameserver = ns.euro.net some-domain.com nameserver = NS.EURONET.NL ns.euro.net internet address = 194.134.0.12 NS.EURONET.NL internet address = 194.134.0.67 > polaccess.com Server: dns.euro.net Address: 194.134.5.5 Non-authoritative answer: polaccess.com origin = ns.polaccess.com mail addr = webmaster@polaccess.com serial = 971031002 refresh = 43200 (12 hours) retry = 7200 (2 hours) expire = 1209600 (14 days) minimum ttl = 172800 (2 days) Authoritative answers can be found from: polaccess.com nameserver = ns.polaccess.com polaccess.com nameserver = DAEMON.RIPCO.com ns.polaccess.com internet address = 205.166.42.114 DAEMON.RIPCO.com internet address = 198.4.164.66 > Sake -- Sake Blok * * EuroNet Internet Client Services Team * * Herengracht 208 - 214 * 1016 BS Amsterdam E-mail: sake@nl.euro.net * Tel: +31 20 625 61 61 From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 28 01:25:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA09929 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 01:25:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from proxy.unpar.ac.id (proxy.unpar.ac.id [167.205.206.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA09912 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 01:25:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gatut@student.unpar.ac.id) Received: from student.unpar.ac.id (student.unpar.ac.id [167.205.206.58]) by proxy.unpar.ac.id (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA24561; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:10:41 +0700 (JAVT) Received: from localhost (gatut@localhost) by student.unpar.ac.id (8.8.5/8.8.5.D) with SMTP id QAA27235; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:55:57 +0700 (JAVT) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:55:57 +0700 (JAVT) From: V Gatut Harijoso To: sake@nl.euro.net cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS Problems....... In-Reply-To: <199710280816.JAA25941@support.euronet.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, Sake Blok wrote: > > If he wrote 'webmaster.polaccess.com' in configuration file, but we see > > 'webmaster@polaccess.com' in nslookup output. This should be, no problem > > with mail-addr, just the way nslookup display for output. > I don't think it's a nslookup-quirk, since when I display my own domain > I don't get the '@' and with the same nslookup I do get the '@' on > polyaccess.com... Uh. I am sorry. I do recheck and find you are right. My blind eyes.. :( > mail addr = webmaster@polaccess.com It should be 'webmaster.polaccess.com'. > serial = 971031002 > refresh = 43200 (12 hours) > retry = 7200 (2 hours) > expire = 1209600 (14 days) > minimum ttl = 172800 (2 days) Thank for your correction. From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 28 06:18:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA25190 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 06:18:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA25185 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 06:18:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (shovey@buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA17987; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:14:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:14:53 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Hovey To: steve howe cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cable-tel-isp companies In-Reply-To: <19971028002210.22179.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Im not worried - the cable company around here messed up their setup pretty badly. On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, steve howe wrote: > i apologize if this isn't exactly the the right forum for this > question, but i didn't know where i'd get a better answer. > i would appreciate any experiences or opinions on how things > will change for small ISPs once (as is happening here) telcos > start providing fiber optic telephone/cable/internet through the > same line as your telephone. > - > maybe such a thing has occured where you live. i'd like to know > how there services are, how expensive they are, if they are > still incapable of some internet functionalies, etc. > - > thanks. please ditto a copy off the list. > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 28 06:46:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA26634 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 06:46:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from nak.myhouse.com (nak.myhouse.com [209.70.45.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA26621 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 06:46:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zoonie@nak.myhouse.com) Received: (qmail 11246 invoked by uid 1000); 28 Oct 1997 14:48:26 -0000 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:48:26 -0500 (EST) From: zoonie To: un_x@hotmail.com cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cable-tel-isp companies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i think that steve hovey is correct in stating that you shouldn't worry. good technical people are hard to find and running an ISP is not for beginners in the networking field..... On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, Steve Hovey wrote: > > > Im not worried - the cable company around here messed up their setup > pretty badly. > > On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, steve howe wrote: > > > i apologize if this isn't exactly the the right forum for this > > question, but i didn't know where i'd get a better answer. > > i would appreciate any experiences or opinions on how things > > will change for small ISPs once (as is happening here) telcos > > start providing fiber optic telephone/cable/internet through the > > same line as your telephone. > > - > > maybe such a thing has occured where you live. i'd like to know > > how there services are, how expensive they are, if they are > > still incapable of some internet functionalies, etc. > > - > > thanks. please ditto a copy off the list. > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 28 08:33:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA02357 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:33:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from kcmain.skw-inc.com ([208.132.78.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA02352 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:33:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@kcmain.skw-inc.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by kcmain.skw-inc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA08444 for isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:33:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:33:02 -0600 (CST) From: Charlie Root Message-Id: <199710281633.KAA08444@kcmain.skw-inc.com> To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: DNS Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I am setting up a WAN for a customer, and I have a simple question. I am setup as the primary DNS for our domain, (we are using MCI as our secondary for now). I have addresses which are available to the InterNet and a lot of RFC 1918 addresses that are not being doled out by NT DHCP Manager. I would like a method of having these DHCP addresses available so I can 'ping'&etc, to test the state of the network from the Unix box which is our InterNet firewall and other stuff. Also I have some RFC 1918 addresses which are static, and I would like those to be in the DNS on Unix. 1. Is there a Method for getting the addresses from DHCP (WINS?) into my nameserver? 2. Do I need to do something special with the RFC 1918 addresses in named.???? or in the domain file so that the machines don't show up on the InterNet. 3. Should I setup a special file for the RFC 1918 addresses, that is seperate from my main domain file. brian BTW> I had to post this from a customer machine because my home machine gives me the following error when I try to post to mailing lists: on FreeBSD.org From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable The original message was received at Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:11:24 -0600 (CST) from localhost.mccane.com [127.0.0.1] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 451 ... reply: read error from mail.hotmail.com. 451 ... reply: read error from mail2.hotmail.com. ... Deferred: Connection reset by mail2.hotmail.com. ... while talking to hub.freebsd.org.: >>> MAIL From: SIZE=2464 <<< 550 Access denied 554 ... Service unavailable ANY IDEAS?? From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 28 08:43:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA02914 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:43:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from portland.cbn.net.id (portland.cbn.net.id [202.158.3.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA02902 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:43:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from engel@cbn.net.id) Received: from cbn.net.id ([202.158.2.132]) by portland.cbn.net.id (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 524-39938U8000L8000S0) with ESMTP id AAA245 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 23:45:32 +0700 Message-ID: <34561722.5C5CA85B@cbn.net.id> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 23:47:30 +0700 From: Engelhard Reply-To: engel@cbn.net.id X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02b7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd Subject: Re: Secondary Setup/..... References: <34551A29.7F84E396@v-m.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Marcin Pasek wrote: > > We are also trying to setup secondary ....but is there a trick or some > kind a config that will allow the NAMED to "update" automaticly in few > seconds....? Is there some kind of refresh setup. update? > > Marcin it should be in the database SOA record : @ IN SOA your.domain.com hostmaster.your.domain ( 1997102801 ; serial number 10800 ; refresh every 3 hour 3600 ; retry after 1 hour 3600000 ; expire 86400 ) ; ttl is 1 day every 10800 seconds, secondary would connect to primary and check the database serial number. if the serial number is a newer one, secondary will update its database. so, don't forget to increase the serial number after make some change to the database. engel. From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 28 10:38:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA10959 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:38:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA10949 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:38:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@mercury.jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA27174; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:38:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:38:32 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff Lynch To: Charlie Root cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS In-Reply-To: <199710281633.KAA08444@kcmain.skw-inc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, Charlie Root wrote: > BTW> I had to post this from a customer machine because my home machine > gives me the following error when I try to post to mailing lists: > on FreeBSD.org [snip] > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > 451 ... reply: read error from mail.hotmail.com. > 451 ... reply: read error from mail2.hotmail.com. > ... Deferred: Connection reset by mail2.hotmail.com. > ... while talking to hub.freebsd.org.: > >>> MAIL From: SIZE=2464 > <<< 550 Access denied > 554 ... Service unavailable > > > > ANY IDEAS?? > This is indication that hotmail.com is being filtered by uit.net due to the high degree of spam from hotmail.com accounts. ========================================================================= Jeffrey A. Lynch, President JORSM Internet email: jeff@jorsm.com Northwest Indiana's Full-Service Provider Voice: (219)322-2180 927 Sheffield Avenue, Dyer, IN 46311 Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 28 11:04:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA12688 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:04:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from bert.club-web.com (bert.club-web.com [207.176.196.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA12628 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:03:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@club-web.com) Received: from club-web.com (ernie.club-web.com [207.176.196.12]) by bert.club-web.com (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA13286 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:06:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <345637C9.D7DB690B@club-web.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:06:49 -0500 From: Mark Segal Organization: Club-Web Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03b8 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: upgrading --> 2.2.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Currently I am at 2.2.1 and wish to upgrade to 2.2.5 (soon) :). I'm wondering if there is a quick and easy way to do so? Do you simply download the disk image and select upgrade. I just want to upgrade the system, since I hvae already kept current with the lastest versions of Apache, Sendmail, Bind, etc. mark -- Mark Segal mark@club-web.com System Administrator - Club-Web Inc. From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 28 11:06:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA12928 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:06:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from bert.club-web.com (bert.club-web.com [207.176.196.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA12913 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:06:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@club-web.com) Received: from club-web.com (ernie.club-web.com [207.176.196.12]) by bert.club-web.com (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA13300 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:08:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3456384B.53CF5E79@club-web.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:08:59 -0500 From: Mark Segal Organization: Club-Web Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03b8 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: upgrading --> 2.2.5 continued Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Opps, forgot something :). has anybody upgraded yet, did the have any problems? lastly.. Will i have to recompile the new kernel (i have some options installed)., to my original kernel config? mark -- Mark Segal mark@club-web.com System Administrator - Club-Web Inc. From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 28 12:19:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA17546 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:19:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from inspace.net (nova.ispace.com [207.204.40.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA17541 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:19:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gme@inspace.net) Received: from caffeine (caffeine.inspace.net [207.204.40.248]) by inspace.net (8.8.6) (8.8.6) (SPAM Stopper: 3.0b2) with SMTP id PAA29995; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:18:43 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "George M. Ellenburg" From: "George M. Ellenburg" To: "Mark Segal" , Subject: Re: upgrading --> 2.2.5 continued Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:17:51 -0500 Message-ID: <01bce3de$912cd2d0$f828cccf@caffeine> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id MAA17542 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mark, I upgraded last week with no problems. The only major problem I experieced was a net slow-down (~5.8kbps transfer rate) which made an hours process last 3. My server was in single-user mode during this process so all mail was being stored on my secondary MX hosts. You will most definitely want to recompile your kernel. My kernel only has support for the hardware I have installed in my servers, plus a couple of options (mainly quotas) and sits around 800kb. Good luck! -----Original Message----- From: Mark Segal To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tuesday, October 28, 1997 2:42 PM Subject: upgrading --> 2.2.5 continued |Opps, forgot something :). | has anybody upgraded yet, did the have any problems? lastly.. Will i |have to recompile the new kernel (i have some options installed)., to my |original kernel config? | |mark |-- |Mark Segal |mark@club-web.com |System Administrator - Club-Web Inc. | | From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 28 12:39:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA18837 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:39:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from shrimp.dataplex.net (shrimp.dataplex.net [208.2.87.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA18824; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:39:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@aol.com) Received: from hetzels (171-91-174.ipt.aol.com [152.171.91.174]) by shrimp.dataplex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA14552; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:39:04 -0600 (CST) From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "FreeBSD Ports" Cc: "FreeBSD ISP" Subject: Apache FrontPage Module Port Completed Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:37:37 -0600 Message-ID: <01bce3e1$541c0340$0500000a@hetzels> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have completed the port of Apache that uses the FrontPage Module. The port can be found at: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/apache-fp.port.tgz This port adds the FrontPage Module to Apache, compiles it and installs the server. It will then run the fp_install.sh script that will install the BSDI 3.0 FrontPage Server Extensions (fp30.bsdi3.tar.Z). It will set the permissions for the apache-fp web server, assign an Administrator, and install the root web. It will also install per-user webs, and virtual webs as directed. NOTE: 1. A New user (www) & group (www) is created during the install as the directories /usr/local/etc/apache & /usr/local/www/data must be owned by the same user so that new sub-webs can be created. 2. In order to create a sub-web in a user's directory (~somebody) from FrontPage 98, you must first make their directory world writeable. After the sub-web is created you should set the permissions back to your sites default and make the user the owner of the public_html directory. Scot Sorry for the crosspost, but please delete the appropriate address from all replies. From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 28 12:44:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA19213 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:44:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mole (mole.slip.net [207.171.193.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA19207 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:44:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dnelson@slip.net) Received: from slip-3.slip.net [207.171.193.17] (dnelson) by mole with smtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0xQIUr-0003ii-00; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:44:17 -0800 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:44:13 -0800 (PST) From: Dru Nelson X-Sender: dnelson@slip-3 To: Mark Segal cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrading --> 2.2.5 continued In-Reply-To: <3456384B.53CF5E79@club-web.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is this really related to isp ? On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, Mark Segal wrote: > Opps, forgot something :). > has anybody upgraded yet, did the have any problems? lastly.. Will i > have to recompile the new kernel (i have some options installed)., to my > original kernel config? > > mark > -- > Mark Segal > mark@club-web.com > System Administrator - Club-Web Inc. > From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 28 13:09:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA20881 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:09:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from scanner.worldgate.com (scanner.worldgate.com [198.161.84.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA20876; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:09:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcs@znep.com) Received: from znep.com (uucp@localhost) by scanner.worldgate.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id OAA13472; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:09:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (marcs@localhost) by alive.znep.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA17595; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:14:35 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:14:35 -0700 (MST) From: Marc Slemko cc: FreeBSD Ports , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Apache FrontPage Module Port Completed In-Reply-To: <01bce3e1$541c0340$0500000a@hetzels> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk And as I have said before and just said again in response to the PR submitting the port, this port also gives anyone instant root on your system. If that isn't desirable to you, I would suggest you hold off on using this port right now. On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, Scot W. Hetzel wrote: > I have completed the port of Apache that uses the FrontPage Module. The > port can be found at: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/apache-fp.port.tgz > > This port adds the FrontPage Module to Apache, compiles it and installs the > server. It will then run the fp_install.sh script that will install the BSDI > 3.0 FrontPage Server Extensions (fp30.bsdi3.tar.Z). It will set the > permissions for the apache-fp web server, assign an Administrator, and > install the root web. It will also install per-user webs, and virtual webs > as directed. > > NOTE: > 1. A New user (www) & group (www) is created during the install as the > directories /usr/local/etc/apache & /usr/local/www/data must be owned by the > same user so that new sub-webs can be created. > > 2. In order to create a sub-web in a user's directory (~somebody) from > FrontPage 98, you must first make their directory world writeable. After > the sub-web is created you should set the permissions back to your sites > default and make the user the owner of the public_html directory. > > Scot > > Sorry for the crosspost, but please delete the appropriate address from all > replies. > From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 28 13:51:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA23892 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:51:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA23880; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:51:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from karl@Mars.mcs.net) Received: from Mars.mcs.net (karl@Mars.mcs.net [192.160.127.85]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id PAA19846; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:51:44 -0600 (CST) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Mars.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) id PAA02959; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:51:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19971028155143.46119@Mars.Mcs.Net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:51:43 -0600 From: Karl Denninger To: Marc Slemko Cc: FreeBSD Ports , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Apache FrontPage Module Port Completed References: <01bce3e1$541c0340$0500000a@hetzels> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.64 In-Reply-To: ; from Marc Slemko on Tue, Oct 28, 1997 at 02:14:35PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I STRONGLY recommend that NOBODY load a botch of this kind on ANYTHING. SUID root programs for file transfers should be confined to those which have many YEARS of experience under their belts - like ftpd. There is absolutely NO REASON that Microsoft could not support FTP transfers from Frontpage, and if they did, this entire security fiasco would be moot. And yes, I've told Microsoft this -- for almost two years. They don't care, and until they do, I'm not risking my machines on their no-source code. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1's from $600 monthly to FULL DS-3 Service | NEW! K56Flex modem support is now available Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| 56kbps DIGITAL ISDN DOV on analog lines! Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | 2 FULL DS-3 Internet links; 400Mbps B/W Internal On Tue, Oct 28, 1997 at 02:14:35PM -0700, Marc Slemko wrote: > And as I have said before and just said again in response to the PR > submitting the port, this port also gives anyone instant root on your > system. If that isn't desirable to you, I would suggest you hold off on > using this port right now. > > On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, Scot W. Hetzel wrote: > > > I have completed the port of Apache that uses the FrontPage Module. The > > port can be found at: > > > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/apache-fp.port.tgz > > > > This port adds the FrontPage Module to Apache, compiles it and installs the > > server. It will then run the fp_install.sh script that will install the BSDI > > 3.0 FrontPage Server Extensions (fp30.bsdi3.tar.Z). It will set the > > permissions for the apache-fp web server, assign an Administrator, and > > install the root web. It will also install per-user webs, and virtual webs > > as directed. > > > > NOTE: > > 1. A New user (www) & group (www) is created during the install as the > > directories /usr/local/etc/apache & /usr/local/www/data must be owned by the > > same user so that new sub-webs can be created. > > > > 2. In order to create a sub-web in a user's directory (~somebody) from > > FrontPage 98, you must first make their directory world writeable. After > > the sub-web is created you should set the permissions back to your sites > > default and make the user the owner of the public_html directory. > > > > Scot > > > > Sorry for the crosspost, but please delete the appropriate address from all > > replies. > > > From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 28 14:06:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA24953 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:06:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from scanner.worldgate.com (scanner.worldgate.com [198.161.84.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA24944; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:05:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcs@znep.com) Received: from znep.com (uucp@localhost) by scanner.worldgate.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id PAA15612; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:05:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (marcs@localhost) by alive.znep.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA17905; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:10:21 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:10:21 -0700 (MST) From: Marc Slemko To: Karl Denninger cc: FreeBSD Ports , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Apache FrontPage Module Port Completed In-Reply-To: <19971028155143.46119@Mars.Mcs.Net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, Karl Denninger wrote: > I STRONGLY recommend that NOBODY load a botch of this kind on ANYTHING. > > SUID root programs for file transfers should be confined to those which have > many YEARS of experience under their belts - like ftpd. There is absolutely > NO REASON that Microsoft could not support FTP transfers from Frontpage, and > if they did, this entire security fiasco would be moot. > > And yes, I've told Microsoft this -- for almost two years. > > They don't care, and until they do, I'm not risking my machines on their > no-source code. There is more to it than that. Yes, you can use FrontPage to upload files via ftp. If you don't use their special CGIs (erm... "bots" or whatever they call them), you can use FrontPage no problem without anything special installed on the server. The problem is their CGIs that implement "pretty" things for FP users. The problem with the extensions traditionally has been that they modify the server config files each time a new site is created, they all run as the same user letting anyone modify the content or the web server config files, you need seperate copies of their huge CGIs for each site even though they are the same, etc. With the FrontPage 98 extensions for Apache, they added a fpexe program and a patch to Apache to no longer require the changes to the config file and to let the CGIs run as the user who owns the web. fpexec is a setuid root program, similar to suexec, that changes UIDs to the user before running the CGIs. Yes, one of the CGIs allows users to upload their web site. The source to fpexe is available. In their first release they were absolute morons: http://www.worldgate.com/~marcs/fp/ They have since released a "fixed" version. It appears better, but I haven't yet had time to fully review it; they take care of the obvious things I pointed out in the first release anyway. There are still issues, and still may be gaping holes, but they are far less obvious. Since you have the source code to the only program they want you to make setuid root, you can judge the risk yourself like I did with the first release. The risk you are left open to is that if there is a hole in fpexe that you can't see when you review it then someone can possibly gain root. The other risk is that if there is a hole in their CGI scripts then someone can possibly gain access to the account of any user running them; this may or may not be an issue. You have to be careful to divide the security issues into the proper different zones of risk. One is instant root. Many people dislike that a lot. Another is the possibility of compromising user accounts. Many people dislike that, but to some it is less significant. From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 28 14:44:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA27430 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:44:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from wicked.eaznet.com ([206.62.254.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA27421 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:44:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from support@wicked.eaznet.com) Received: (from support@localhost) by wicked.eaznet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id PAA13584 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:46:25 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:46:25 -0700 (MST) From: support Message-Id: <199710282246.PAA13584@wicked.eaznet.com> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Popper error messages Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I know this was talked about approx. 6 mo's ago, but I can't seem to find the answer in the archives. How do I make popper stop spitting out those damn error messages? If I remember correctly, there were some code changes or something. Can someone provide me with those? Or, better yet, send me a compiled version? I'd appreciate it! Eddie From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Oct 28 18:08:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA10392 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 18:08:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from nak.myhouse.com (nak.myhouse.com [209.70.45.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA10382 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 18:08:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zoonie@nak.myhouse.com) Received: (qmail 12906 invoked by uid 1000); 29 Oct 1997 02:10:24 -0000 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 21:10:24 -0500 (EST) From: zoonie To: Wm Brian McCane cc: un_x@hotmail.com, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cable-tel-isp companies In-Reply-To: <199710281611.KAA21980@bmccane.uit.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i guess that it was a bit thoughtless to say that they were beginners, you are correct in stating that they already run a network brian. you are also correct in stating that good technical people go where the money is but i think that they also have to consider what the BS level is compared to the money. you could offer me a million dollars a year as a salary (obviously it's unrealistic) but if i perceive that i will have to put up with too much crap then you can keep it. it has also been my experiance that finding competent networkers is not easy (i have had to interview a few people at different places and have heard stories about people that have come in for interviews from coworkers). what your cable company is doing is kinda interesting and it sounds like the only drawback is that they won't assign a static IP address....i only know of one cable company in the washington, DC area that is doing internet access and that is in alexandria, virginia. i only know about it because somebody told me. i haven't heard anything about any of the other cable companies doing it but that doesn't mean that they aren't looking into it. at least my local cable company isn't doing anything. i think that the biggest threat here may be bell atlantic and their DSL offerings (but that's not going to be anywhere near 10Mbit) and the power company (they are supposed to be in the internet business now). but how that shakes out still remains to be seen. so, for now i don't think that i would worry to much just yet.... On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, Wm Brian McCane wrote: > > i think that steve hovey is correct in stating that you shouldn't worry. > > good technical people are hard to find and running an ISP is not for > > beginners in the networking field..... > > They are not exactly "beginners". They can do this because they are already > running a network. They are simply piggy-backing InterNet access on their > current system. Also, good technical people tend to go where the money is, > and SBC (the company that owns SWBT, Cellular One, a cable company, ....) > in our area has the money. My local cable company is supposed to come online > with InterNet access in Feb 98. They claim they will be offering 10/1 MBit > connection to the InterNet (Yes, that is 10Mbit in, 1Mbit out). Which means I > can almost host a web site at near T1 speeds through them. The biggest loss > I see so far is that they will only do "DHCP" according to their tech people. > I asked if they would be able to setup reservations in the DHCP manager for > people that wanted a static IP and they started counting their shoelaces. > > brian > > > > On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, Steve Hovey wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Im not worried - the cable company around here messed up their setup > > > pretty badly. > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, steve howe wrote: > > > > > > > i apologize if this isn't exactly the the right forum for this > > > > question, but i didn't know where i'd get a better answer. > > > > i would appreciate any experiences or opinions on how things > > > > will change for small ISPs once (as is happening here) telcos > > > > start providing fiber optic telephone/cable/internet through the > > > > same line as your telephone. > > > > - > > > > maybe such a thing has occured where you live. i'd like to know > > > > how there services are, how expensive they are, if they are > > > > still incapable of some internet functionalies, etc. > > > > - > > > > thanks. please ditto a copy off the list. > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 06:47:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA19466 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 06:47:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from virtualmarketing.com (email.virtualmarketing.com [207.7.29.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA19461 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 06:47:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcin@v-m.com) Received: from v-m.com (207.7.29.107) by virtualmarketing.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2b2); Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:47:54 -0600 Message-ID: <34574CCE.47DBB38@v-m.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:48:46 -0600 From: Marcin Pasek Reply-To: marcin@v-m.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd Subject: DNS next level.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HI, and thanks a lot for all the pointers that I got in setting up a primary and secondary DNS server on my system.. there is one more thing that I need to setup. Let say I have a xxxx.com domain set up on one DNS server and I make one of the host UNIX so I have unix.xxx.com NOw here is my question how do I setup my DNS so that all setting for unix.xxx.com are located at a diffrent DNS server for that subdomain....so that I could setup www.unix.xxx.com and also I could setup MX records and stuff.? What kind of setting are needed on a first and on the second DNS server? Waiting for some pointers and once again thanks for everything.... Marcin From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 07:27:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA21590 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 07:27:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mrin42.mail.aol.com (mrin42.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA21562; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 07:27:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Hetzels@aol.com) From: Hetzels@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by mrin42.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA28060; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:27:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:27:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <971029102701_817384728@mrin42.mail.aol.com> To: marcs@znep.com cc: ports@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache FrontPage Module Port Completed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 97-10-28 18:04:18 EST, marcs@znep.com (Marc Slemko) writes: > And as I have said before and just said again in response to the PR > submitting the port, this port also gives anyone instant root on your > system. If that isn't desirable to you, I would suggest you hold off on > using this port right now. > It doesn't give instant root, as it checks for uid < 11 & gid < 21 and rejects them. Also, it will only run 4 programs (shtml.exe, fpcount.exe, author.exe, or admin.exe), but before it runs them, it will change to the owner of the directory that it is working in. Scot From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 07:31:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA21876 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 07:31:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mrin41.mail.aol.com (mrin41.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA21858; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 07:31:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Hetzels@aol.com) From: Hetzels@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by mrin41.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA14948; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:30:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:30:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <971029103052_1078707231@mrin41.mail.aol.com> To: karl@mcs.net cc: ports@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache FrontPage Module Port Completed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 97-10-28 18:26:35 EST, karl@Mcs.Net (Karl Denninger) writes: > SUID root programs for file transfers should be confined to those which have > many YEARS of experience under their belts - like ftpd. There is absolutely > NO REASON that Microsoft could not support FTP transfers from Frontpage, and > if they did, this entire security fiasco would be moot. > > And yes, I've told Microsoft this -- for almost two years. > > They don't care, and until they do, I'm not risking my machines on their > no-source code. > But they have provided the source code for the FrontPage Module & the fpexe program. Take a look at it. If there is a patch to make it safer let me know and I will gladly include it into the port. Scot From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 07:47:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA22907 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 07:47:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from intra.vafibre.com ([205.139.223.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA22901 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 07:47:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jbrown@vafibre.com) Received: from is01 by intra.vafibre.com (Unoverica 2.11a) id 0000066D; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:47:46 -0500 From: "John Brown" To: Subject: rdist Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:43:21 -0500 Message-ID: <01bce481$62c4f3c0$65df8bcd@is01.vafibre.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been trying for a couple of days to get rdist to work so that I can send my passwd file from one server to another and am getting the error "Permission Denied" before an attemp is even made to connect to the remote system. I have looked through the archives and saw that many people have had the same problem but did not see any resolutions. Can someone tell me what I am missing permissions on? I am attempting to run as root my FreeBSD Box is running 2.2-Release. The following is the actual command i/o # rdist -f distfile1 updating host ns.remoteserver.com Permission denied. Thanks in advance for any assistance. John Brown From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 08:25:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA25328 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:25:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from scanner.worldgate.com (scanner.worldgate.com [198.161.84.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA25322; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:25:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcs@znep.com) Received: from znep.com (uucp@localhost) by scanner.worldgate.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id JAA25105; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:23:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (marcs@localhost) by alive.znep.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA22491; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:28:04 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:28:04 -0700 (MST) From: Marc Slemko To: Hetzels@aol.com cc: ports@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache FrontPage Module Port Completed In-Reply-To: <971029102701_817384728@mrin42.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Erm... this makes no sense now. It appears you are not doing what you said you would. You said you were having things run as www and you needed the new user so they could be writable. That is a hole. Looking further, it appears like you are not doing this. If a user "www" exists, it has traditionally been used to run the server as. Using it for some different and obscure purpose will lead to trouble. Instead, you created this new user for no reason. Why is it necessary? You say the extensions have to write to the config file and that users have to make their home directory world writable. That does not fit at all with using fpexe, so I assumed you were not and that (as you said) the config files had to be writable by FrontPage. It appears that is not the case. The only thing I can figure out is that you are using Microsoft's install script and that it is broken and doesn't properly support fpexe; in that case, fix the script don't create another user. On Wed, 29 Oct 1997 Hetzels@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 97-10-28 18:04:18 EST, marcs@znep.com (Marc Slemko) > writes: > > > And as I have said before and just said again in response to the PR > > submitting the port, this port also gives anyone instant root on your > > system. If that isn't desirable to you, I would suggest you hold off on > > using this port right now. > > > It doesn't give instant root, as it checks for uid < 11 & gid < 21 and > rejects them. Also, it will only run 4 programs (shtml.exe, fpcount.exe, > author.exe, or admin.exe), but before it runs them, it will change to the > owner of the directory that it is working in. > > Scot > From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 08:50:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA26928 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:50:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from portland.cbn.net.id (portland.cbn.net.id [202.158.3.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA26919 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:50:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from engel@cbn.net.id) Received: from cbn.net.id ([202.158.2.132]) by portland.cbn.net.id (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 524-39938U8000L8000S0) with ESMTP id AAA158 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 23:52:17 +0700 Message-ID: <34576A38.8AB4AB91@cbn.net.id> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 23:54:16 +0700 From: Engelhard Reply-To: engel@cbn.net.id X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02b7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd Subject: Re: DNS next level.... References: <34574CCE.47DBB38@v-m.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Marcin Pasek wrote: ... > What kind of setting are needed on a first and on the second DNS > server? ... let's say that you have ns.xxx.com as the DNS Server for domain xxx.com & ns.unix.xxx.com as the DNS Server for domain unix.xxx.com. (correct me if iam wrong) at the xxx.com database : @ IN SOA ... IN NS ns.xxx.com. localhost IN A 127.0.0.1 ns IN A 111.111.1.111 unix IN NS ns.unix.xxx.com. $ORIGIN unix.xxx.com. ns IN A 111.111.2.111 at the unix.xxx.com database, @ IN SOA ... IN NS ns.unix.xxx.com. IN MX 10 mail.unix.xxx.com. localhost IN A 127.0.0.1 ns IN A 111.111.2.111 mail IN A 111.111.2.112 www IN CNAME mail.unix.xxx.com. and don't forget to delegate the reverse address of 2.111.111.in-addr.arpa to ns.unix.xxx.com too. for more information about setting dns server, you could: - subscribe to bind&dns mailing list at bind-users-request@vix.com - search at the bind&dns archive mailing list at ftp://ftp.vix.com/pub/bind/old/mail-archive/ - browse BIND homepage at http://www.isc.org/bind.html DNS resource directory at http://www.dns.net/dnsrd/ - read O'Reily books : BIND & DNS by cricket regards, engel From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 08:59:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA27639 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:59:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from marlin.exis.net (root@marlin.exis.net [205.252.72.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA27630 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:59:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stefan@exis.net) Received: from sailfish.exis.net (sailfish.exis.net [205.252.72.104]) by marlin.exis.net (8.8.4/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA02154; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:59:21 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:59:12 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Molnar To: John Brown cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rdist In-Reply-To: <01bce481$62c4f3c0$65df8bcd@is01.vafibre.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Did you setup the .rhosts file? on the reciving machine put in a .rhosts entry of the machine you are coming from. I think there is a man page on it. Stefan > I have been trying for a couple of days to get rdist to work so that I can > send my passwd file from one server to another and am getting the error > "Permission Denied" before an attemp is even made to connect to the remote > system. > > I have looked through the archives and saw that many people have had the > same problem but did not see any resolutions. > > Can someone tell me what I am missing permissions on? > > I am attempting to run as root my FreeBSD Box is running 2.2-Release. > > The following is the actual command i/o > > # rdist -f distfile1 > updating host ns.remoteserver.com > Permission denied. > > Thanks in advance for any assistance. > > John Brown > From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 09:24:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA29092 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:24:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA29085 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:24:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sderdau@xtdl.com) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by user.xtdl.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA14147 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 12:44:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 12:44:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Stephen A. Derdau" To: isp@Freebsd.org Subject: DNS ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@Freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Have a question regarding DNS stuff. Ie. home.netscape.com is not found. yet Hit the home button the second time it comes up. Believe a timeout error. But why. Also today tried to get to www.encarta.com could not find it. tried a 2nd time no luck. Pointers to the right direction would be great! Thanks Stephen A. Derdau XTDL inc 10 Chestnut Dr. Bedford, NH 03110 603 4714700 "If it wasn't for something I would have nothing!:)" From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 09:39:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA00223 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:39:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from netrail.net (netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA00216 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:39:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonz@netrail.net) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA18132; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 13:37:42 GMT Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 13:37:42 +0000 (GMT) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: John Brown cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rdist In-Reply-To: <01bce481$62c4f3c0$65df8bcd@is01.vafibre.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Put in ~root/.rhosts an rhost entry for the server the password file's coming from. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan A. Zdziarski NetRail Incorporated Systems Engineering Manager 230 Peachtree St. Suite 500 jonz@netrail.net Atlanta, GA 30303 http://www.netrail.net (888) - NETRAIL ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 29 Oct 1997, John Brown wrote: :I have been trying for a couple of days to get rdist to work so that I can :send my passwd file from one server to another and am getting the error :"Permission Denied" before an attemp is even made to connect to the remote :system. : :I have looked through the archives and saw that many people have had the :same problem but did not see any resolutions. : :Can someone tell me what I am missing permissions on? : :I am attempting to run as root my FreeBSD Box is running 2.2-Release. : :The following is the actual command i/o : :# rdist -f distfile1 :updating host ns.remoteserver.com :Permission denied. : :Thanks in advance for any assistance. : :John Brown : From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 10:33:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA03754 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:33:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from intra.vafibre.com ([205.139.223.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA03749 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:33:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jbrown@vafibre.com) Received: from is01 by intra.vafibre.com (Unoverica 2.11a) id 000006AB; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 13:33:53 -0500 From: "John Brown" To: Subject: Re: rdist Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 13:29:26 -0500 Message-ID: <01bce498$96747df0$65df8bcd@is01.vafibre.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk OK an Update.. I have setup rdist to go the other way and it works. (ie. I can go from remote to local but still cannot go the other way) I continue to get the permission denied on the other server. I have checked my hosts.equiv and .rhosts and both of these are correct or at least the same (except different host names) on both servers. When I check the /usr/bin/rsh on the server that it is running successfully on the permissions are r-sr-xr-x. On the server that I continue to get the error on the permissions are r-xr-xr-x . Can this cause the problem? and if so how do I correct/set the s permission flag? (Never had to do that before) Thanks > >On Wed, 29 Oct 1997, John Brown wrote: > >:I have been trying for a couple of days to get rdist to work so that I can >:send my passwd file from one server to another and am getting the error >:"Permission Denied" before an attemp is even made to connect to the remote >:system. >: >:I have looked through the archives and saw that many people have had the >:same problem but did not see any resolutions. >: >:Can someone tell me what I am missing permissions on? >: >:I am attempting to run as root my FreeBSD Box is running 2.2-Release. >: >:The following is the actual command i/o >: >:# rdist -f distfile1 >:updating host ns.remoteserver.com >:Permission denied. >: >:Thanks in advance for any assistance. >: >:John Brown >: > > From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 11:20:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA06722 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:20:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from overlord.edp.net (overlord.edp.net [205.243.209.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA06692 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:20:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from georged@edp.net) Received: by overlord.edp.net; id AA28274; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 13:34:24 -0600 Received: by EDPNT with Microsoft Mail id <01BCE46E.47BD1200@EDPNT>; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 13:26:36 -0600 Message-Id: <01BCE46E.47BD1200@EDPNT> From: George Davidson To: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: How do I unsubscribe from this list? Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 13:26:34 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How do I usubscribe from this list? From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 11:54:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA08874 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:54:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from netrail.net (netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA08863 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:54:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonz@netrail.net) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA26251; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:52:48 GMT Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:52:48 +0000 (GMT) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: John Brown cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rdist In-Reply-To: <01bce498$96747df0$65df8bcd@is01.vafibre.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Don't think that's the problem but if you wanna change permissions do a chmod 4555 to the file. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan A. Zdziarski NetRail Incorporated Systems Engineering Manager 230 Peachtree St. Suite 500 jonz@netrail.net Atlanta, GA 30303 http://www.netrail.net (888) - NETRAIL ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 29 Oct 1997, John Brown wrote: :OK an Update.. I have setup rdist to go the other way and it works. (ie. I :can go from remote to local but still cannot go the other way) I continue to :get the permission denied on the other server. : :I have checked my hosts.equiv and .rhosts and both of these are correct or :at least the same (except different host names) on both servers. : :When I check the /usr/bin/rsh on the server that it is running successfully :on the permissions are r-sr-xr-x. On the server that I continue to get the :error on the permissions are r-xr-xr-x . Can this cause the problem? and if :so how do I correct/set the s permission flag? (Never had to do that before) : :Thanks : :> :>On Wed, 29 Oct 1997, John Brown wrote: :> :>:I have been trying for a couple of days to get rdist to work so that I can :>:send my passwd file from one server to another and am getting the error :>:"Permission Denied" before an attemp is even made to connect to the remote :>:system. :>: :>:I have looked through the archives and saw that many people have had the :>:same problem but did not see any resolutions. :>: :>:Can someone tell me what I am missing permissions on? :>: :>:I am attempting to run as root my FreeBSD Box is running 2.2-Release. :>: :>:The following is the actual command i/o :>: :>:# rdist -f distfile1 :>:updating host ns.remoteserver.com :>:Permission denied. :>: :>:Thanks in advance for any assistance. :>: :>:John Brown :>: :> :> : From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 11:55:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA08906 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:55:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from Moonraker.afsc.k12.ar.us ([170.211.144.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA08858; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:54:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bbeavers@Moonraker.afsc.k12.ar.us) Received: (from bbeavers@localhost) by Moonraker.afsc.k12.ar.us (8.8.3/8.8.3) id PAA24455; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:13:28 GMT Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:13:28 +0000 () From: Bill Beavers To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Fatal Trap Error Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I posted this a few days ago but got no reponse so I wasn't sure if I just got lost in the shuffle. I have a FreeBSD box running version 2.1.7 being used as a dialup server for our community as a psuedo ISP (mostly educational purposes). But after several various little problems with the modems, etc., I have started getting a Fatal Trap 12 error -- while in kernel mode. I don't know what this means, but the machine seems to be going down constantly. Usually when a person calls into the first modem in the bank and then the server just crashes. Can anyone shed some light on what might be happening here? I am running a Pentium 200 with 128 megs of RAM, 16 modems on a cyclades 16 port Y-e pci multiport board. I can provide further info if it will help. ........................................ . Bill Beavers, Technology Coordinator . . Arch Ford Education Coop . . bbeavers@moonraker.afsc.k12.ar.us . . http://moonraker.afsc.k12.ar.us . ........................................ From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 13:31:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA16550 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 13:31:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.8.15.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA16542 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 13:31:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@panda.hilink.com.au) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA19728; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 08:35:57 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 08:35:57 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Marcin Pasek cc: freebsd Subject: Re: DNS next level.... In-Reply-To: <34574CCE.47DBB38@v-m.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 Oct 1997, Marcin Pasek wrote: > HI, and thanks a lot for all the pointers that I got in setting up a > primary and secondary DNS server on my system.. > > there is one more thing that I need to setup. > Let say I have a xxxx.com domain set up on one DNS server and I make > one of the host UNIX so I have unix.xxx.com NOw here is my question > how do I setup my DNS so that all setting for unix.xxx.com are located > at a diffrent DNS server for that subdomain....so that I could setup > www.unix.xxx.com and also I could setup MX records and stuff.? You can just put everything in the one DNS as: unix IN A 1.2.3.4 www.unix IN A 1.2.3.5 Or you can delegate the unix subdomain unix IN NS dns1.unix.xxx.com. IN NS dns2.unix.xxx.com. ; glue dns1.unix IN A 1.2.3.4 dns2.unix IN A 1.2.3.5 You *MUST* include the glue records. Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 13:34:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA16792 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 13:34:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.8.15.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA16783 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 13:34:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@panda.hilink.com.au) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA19735; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 08:38:36 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 08:38:36 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: "Stephen A. Derdau" cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 Oct 1997, Stephen A. Derdau wrote: > Have a question regarding DNS stuff. > Ie. home.netscape.com is not found. yet Hit the home button the second > time it comes up. Believe a timeout error. But why. > Also today tried to get to www.encarta.com could not find it. > tried a 2nd time no luck. You could try making sure your named.root is up to date. Get the latest from ftp.rs.internic.net:/domain/ Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 14:20:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA20259 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 14:20:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA20234; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 14:20:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id IAA12870; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 08:49:38 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19971030084937.49844@lemis.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 08:49:37 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Bill Beavers Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fatal Trap Error References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from Bill Beavers on Wed, Oct 29, 1997 at 03:13:28PM +0000 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Fight-Spam-Now: http://www.cauce.org Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, Oct 29, 1997 at 03:13:28PM +0000, Bill Beavers wrote: > I posted this a few days ago but got no reponse so I wasn't sure if I > just got lost in the shuffle. > > I have a FreeBSD box running version 2.1.7 being used as a dialup server > for our community as a psuedo ISP (mostly educational purposes). But > after several various little problems with the modems, etc., I have > started getting a Fatal Trap 12 error -- while in kernel mode. I don't > know what this means, but the machine seems to be going down constantly. > Usually when a person calls into the first modem in the bank and then the > server just crashes. Can anyone shed some light on what might be > happening here? I am running a Pentium 200 with 128 megs of RAM, 16 > modems on a cyclades 16 port Y-e pci multiport board. Please don't send this kind of message to -isp. It has nothing directly to do with ISPs. -questions is the correct mailing list. See http://www.lemis.com/questions.html for further details. > I can provide further info if it will help. Take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook264.html#598 for what you need to do. Greg From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 16:40:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA28974 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 16:40:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from bastuba.partitur.se (bastuba.partitur.se [193.219.246.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA28719 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 16:38:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from girgen@partitur.se) Received: from partitur.se (dialup180-3-40.swipnet.se [130.244.180.168]) by bastuba.partitur.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA00604; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 01:37:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3457D6B6.C45A6573@partitur.se> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 01:37:10 +0100 From: Palle Girgensohn Organization: Partitur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03b8 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" CC: John Brown , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rdist References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, Can it be the login.conf file introduced in 2.2.2 that is causing you trouble? I can do a rsh/rlogin/ranything as root to our 2.1-release machine, but not to any of our 2.2.2 stable machines. The /etc/hosts.equiv has no effect for root logins (says the some man page; sorry, can't remember which. Probably the sunos man page for hosts.equiv), and ~root/.rhosts is the proper way. My guess is this only works to a system that is pre-login.conf. I haven't had the time to investigate this yet, but my guess is that the auth-root-defaults part in the beginning must be altered in some way. Maybe someone can give me a hint? auth-root-defaults:\ :auth-login=krb_skey_or_passwd,passwd,kerberos,skey:\ :auth-rlogin=krb_or_skey,kerberos,skey:\ ^^^^^^^^^^^ ? Or maybe I just missed this: For security reasons, a users .rhosts file will be ignored if it is not a regular file, or if it is not owned by the user, or if it is writable by anyone other than the user. I'm not sure, and cannot test it now... Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: > > Don't think that's the problem but if you wanna change permissions do a > chmod 4555 to the file. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Jonathan A. Zdziarski NetRail Incorporated > Systems Engineering Manager 230 Peachtree St. Suite 500 > jonz@netrail.net Atlanta, GA 30303 > http://www.netrail.net (888) - NETRAIL > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Wed, 29 Oct 1997, John Brown wrote: > > :OK an Update.. I have setup rdist to go the other way and it works. (ie. I > :can go from remote to local but still cannot go the other way) I continue to > :get the permission denied on the other server. > : > :I have checked my hosts.equiv and .rhosts and both of these are correct or > :at least the same (except different host names) on both servers. > : > :When I check the /usr/bin/rsh on the server that it is running successfully > :on the permissions are r-sr-xr-x. On the server that I continue to get the > :error on the permissions are r-xr-xr-x . Can this cause the problem? and if > :so how do I correct/set the s permission flag? (Never had to do that before) > : > :Thanks > : > :> > :>On Wed, 29 Oct 1997, John Brown wrote: > :> > :>:I have been trying for a couple of days to get rdist to work so that I can > :>:send my passwd file from one server to another and am getting the error > :>:"Permission Denied" before an attemp is even made to connect to the remote > :>:system. > :>: > :>:I have looked through the archives and saw that many people have had the > :>:same problem but did not see any resolutions. > :>: > :>:Can someone tell me what I am missing permissions on? > :>: > :>:I am attempting to run as root my FreeBSD Box is running 2.2-Release. > :>: > :>:The following is the actual command i/o > :>: > :>:# rdist -f distfile1 > :>:updating host ns.remoteserver.com > :>:Permission denied. > :>: > :>:Thanks in advance for any assistance. > :>: > :>:John Brown > :>: > :> > :> > : From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 19:13:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA08149 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 19:13:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from npc.haplink.com.cn ([202.96.192.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA08131 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 19:13:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from xiyuan@npc.haplink.com.cn) Received: (from xiyuan@localhost) by npc.haplink.com.cn (8.8.4/8.6.9) id LAA06302 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:18:15 GMT Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:18:15 GMT From: xiyuan qian Message-Id: <199710301118.LAA06302@npc.haplink.com.cn> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Which one? Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am working with developing a simple email gate program. That is dial out to the ISP to get the email message then distribute the message to the right user based on the To: line. I think I can carry it out by two methods: 1. When I get the To: line and the email message, send the message to the user by the internal mail function; 2. Direct operate the /var/mail/user file, append the message to this file; Which one is the favourite one? Is there any problem when the dial line disconnect suddenly? Best regaurds! From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 19:13:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA08158 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 19:13:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from packman.icis.qut.edu.au (root@packman.icis.qut.edu.au [131.181.70.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA08095; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 19:12:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@russell.icis.qut.edu.au) Received: from russell.icis.qut.edu.au (russell.icis.qut.edu.au [131.181.70.49]) by packman.icis.qut.edu.au (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id MAA23325; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:59:23 +1000 (EST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by russell.icis.qut.edu.au (8.7.1/8.7.1) id NAA11533; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:14:40 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:14:40 +1000 (EST) From: Steve Milliner Message-Id: <199710300314.NAA11533@russell.icis.qut.edu.au> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: modem transmision problems?? Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know (off the top of their heads) or experienced problems with modem transmissions as follows: /kernel: sio3: 8 more tty-level buffer overflows - traffic consists of mail is being sent between a FBSD box and a NT box (using exchange :>) on a permanent dialup line. Mail is queued at the FBSD side, and then relayed on. Both boxes have the same internal modems. I'm GUESSING that the modem is being flooded because too much mail is being de-queued on to it at once ?? so I've made the queue time smaller to try and stop the build up - but I'm a little perplexed as to why FBSD buffering does not seem to be working here ... or are the modems I'm using (latest Banksia) rubbish ?? Does anybody know if this is in fact the case ? what the root cause of it is and how to fix it ? thanks in advance REGS Stephen From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 20:20:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA12293 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 20:20:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA12283 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 20:20:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sderdau@xtdl.com) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by user.xtdl.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA07469 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 23:40:04 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 23:40:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Stephen A. Derdau" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: tty & port question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Question: after an upgrade to the system the tty numbers don't correspond to the port number. Before the upgrade a user would log into a workstation and would get a certain portnumber and tty number. Now the tty number is correct but the port number is not. could someone please point me in the direction as to what I shoudl research to figure out How This can be fixed. The reason being is that records for the ports are kept as far as emulation etc goes when they log in. with the wrong port numbers the info is not right. Even though the tty number is. Thanks Stephen A. Derdau XTDL inc 10 Chestnut Dr. Bedford, NH 03110 603 4714700 "If it wasn't for something I would have nothing!:)" From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 21:04:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA14360 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:04:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.8.15.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA14355 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:04:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@panda.hilink.com.au) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA20232; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 16:08:49 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 16:08:48 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: xiyuan qian cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which one? In-Reply-To: <199710301118.LAA06302@npc.haplink.com.cn> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, xiyuan qian wrote: > > Hi, I am working with developing a simple email gate program. That is dial out > to the ISP to get the email message then distribute the message to the right > user based on the To: line. I think I can carry it out by two methods: > > 1. When I get the To: line and the email message, send the message to the user > by the internal mail function; > 2. Direct operate the /var/mail/user file, append the message to this file; > > Which one is the favourite one? Is there any problem when the dial line > disconnect suddenly? You should use uucp for this. What do you do when the 'To:' just says 'To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'??? How do you know which users to deliver to? Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 21:28:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA15474 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:28:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from bb.cc.wa.us (root@[208.8.136.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA15418; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:27:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@bb.cc.wa.us) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by bb.cc.wa.us (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA11288; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:21:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:21:23 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Coleman X-Sender: chris@bb.cc.wa.us To: Steve Milliner cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: modem transmision problems?? In-Reply-To: <199710300314.NAA11533@russell.icis.qut.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I recently got this same error, but I don't have a modem connected. I have two serial plotters connected to the computer. I would also like to know the root of the problem. Christopher J. Coleman (chris@bb.cc.wa.us) Computer Support Analyst I (509)-766-8873 FreeBSD Book Project: http://www.vmunix.com/fbsd-book/ From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 22:17:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA18119 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 22:17:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from netdev.comsys.com (netdev.comsys.com [192.94.236.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA18099; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 22:17:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex@comsys.com) Received: from neisse.comsys.com ([204.202.49.58]) by netdev.comsys.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA10883; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 23:33:49 -0700 (MST) Reply-To: "alex huppenthal" From: "alex huppenthal" To: , Subject: Transmission on DSL Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 22:15:53 -0800 Message-ID: <01bce4fb$46df6120$3a31cacc@neisse.comsys.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm wondering if this is a problem that might be fixed with an OS tune. We're using the Krell 784kbit DSL modems with quad Cogent/Adaptec Ethernet cards and getting periodic buffer overflow errors? The Krell is set for full duplex operation 10 MB operation. I haven't tried 1/2 duplex because we want to set the modems to one setting. Any suggestions appreciated. - Alex ------------------------------------------------------------------ Communication Systems Research 'Go anywhere you want today' Portland, OR 97201 From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 29 23:02:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA19828 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 23:02:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.210.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA19820; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 23:02:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom by misery.sdf.com with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0xQobF-0001gj-00; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 23:01:01 -0800 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 23:00:38 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: alex huppenthal cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Transmission on DSL In-Reply-To: <01bce4fb$46df6120$3a31cacc@neisse.comsys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 Oct 1997, alex huppenthal wrote: > I'm wondering if this is a problem that might be fixed with an OS tune. Depends. What version are you running? This is rather important. > We're using the Krell 784kbit DSL modems with quad Cogent/Adaptec Ethernet > cards and getting periodic buffer overflow errors? The Krell is set for full > duplex operation 10 MB operation. > > I haven't tried 1/2 duplex because we want to set the modems to one setting. Try it. Chances are you haven't switched the (de0?) driver into full-duplex, assuming that you have a version of the driver that even supports full-duplex. Tom From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 02:30:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA00704 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 02:30:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from bastuba.partitur.se (bastuba.partitur.se [193.219.246.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA00697 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 02:30:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from girgen@partitur.se) Received: from partitur.se (dialup171-2-45.swipnet.se [130.244.171.109]) by bastuba.partitur.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02365; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:30:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <345861B1.CC5BE9C1@partitur.se> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:30:09 +0100 From: Palle Girgensohn Organization: Partitur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03b8 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" , John Brown , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rdist References: <3457D6B6.C45A6573@partitur.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Palle Girgensohn wrote: > > Hello all, > > Can it be the login.conf file introduced in 2.2.2 that is causing you [snip my own bullsh*t :-] Nope. just chmod 0400 ~root/.rhosts Worked for me. > > Or maybe I just missed this: > For security reasons, a users .rhosts file will be ignored if it is > not a > regular file, or if it is not owned by the user, or if it is > writable by > anyone other than the user. This last stuff is just what I missed! Forget me ever discussing login.conf (blush)... :-/ /palle From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 03:39:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA03719 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 03:39:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from word.smith.net.au (ppp5.portal.net.au [202.12.71.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA03677; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 03:38:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA00544; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 22:01:53 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199710301131.WAA00544@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Steve Milliner cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: modem transmision problems?? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:14:40 +1000." <199710300314.NAA11533@russell.icis.qut.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 22:01:52 +1030 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Does anyone know (off the top of their heads) or experienced > problems with modem transmissions as follows: > > /kernel: sio3: 8 more tty-level buffer overflows How about you start by reading the sio(4) manpage? sio%d: tty-level buffer overflow. Problem in the application. Input has arrived faster than the given module could process it and some has been lost. Are you using user-mode ppp? If so, it sounds like the machine is heavily loaded and the ppp process is being starved of CPU for extended periods of time. mike From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 04:35:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA06181 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 04:35:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@arka.mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA06176 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 04:35:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@arka.mtl.pl) Received: (from tom@localhost) by arka.mtl.pl (8.8.7/8.6.12) id NAA13686; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:35:13 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:35:13 +0100 (MET) From: Tomasz Zin To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.OGR cc: Steve Milliner , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: modem GVC In-Reply-To: <199710301131.WAA00544@word.smith.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id EAA06177 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mayby someone was configuring GVC modem for lised-line? Modem type: V.34 33600 BPS. Modems are connected CD led is ON, but they send characters no correctly. On modem1 I press q and receive » on modem2. When I press q on modem2 I receive ¨ on modem1. I don't know why? Tomasz Zin From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 04:38:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA06326 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 04:38:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@arka.mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA06321; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 04:38:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@arka.mtl.pl) Received: (from tom@localhost) by arka.mtl.pl (8.8.7/8.6.12) id NAA13736; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:38:10 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:38:10 +0100 (MET) From: Tomasz Zin To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: modem GVC Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id EAA06322 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Mayby someone was configuring GVC modem for lised-line? Modem type: V.34 33600 BPS. Modems are connected CD led is ON, but they send characters no correctly. On modem1 I press q and receive » on modem2. When I press q on modem2 I receive ¨ on modem1. I don't know why? Tomasz Zin From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 05:51:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA09472 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 05:51:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mrin43.mail.aol.com (mrin43.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA09453; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 05:50:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Hetzels@aol.com) From: Hetzels@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by mrin43.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id IAA07209; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 08:50:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 08:50:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <971030085025_-1426997047@mrin43.mail.aol.com> To: marcs@znep.com cc: ports@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache FrontPage Module Port Completed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 97-10-29 11:26:23 EST, marcs@znep.com writes: > Erm... this makes no sense now. It appears you are not doing what you > said you would. You said you were having things run as www and you needed > the new user so they could be writable. That is a hole. Looking further, > it appears like you are not doing this. If a user "www" exists, it has > traditionally been used to run the server as. Using it for some different > and obscure purpose will lead to trouble. When I run FrontPage 98 to create a new sub-web, it needs to beable to write a lock file to the /usr/local/etc/apache directory & read the httpd.conf file. If this directory and file are not owned by the same user as the directory /usr/local/www/data then FrontPage 98 errors out saying it can't create the lock file or read/write the httpd.conf file. Ok instead of www, what Name should I assign for the owner & group for these two directories? NOTE: The default httpd.conf file assigns user nobody as the user the server runs under after it starts from root. > > Instead, you created this new user for no reason. Why is it necessary? See above for why it was neccessary. > You say the extensions have to write to the config file and that users > have to make their home directory world writable. That does not fit at Not exactly, in order to create a sub-web (~somebody) in a users home directory (/home/somebody) the administrator has to temporarily make the directory world writable in so that FP98 can create the sub-web (/home/somebody/public_html), after the user sub-web is installed the permissions can be set back to normal. > all with using fpexe, so I assumed you were not and that (as you said) the > config files had to be writable by FrontPage. It appears that is not the > case. > The config files no longer has to be writable by FrontPage when using apache-fp (module & fpexe), but owned by the same user as the directory /usr/local/www/data. The fpexe & module checks the owner of the httpd.conf file before it will allow access to that file, even if the file is world readable. > The only thing I can figure out is that you are using Microsoft's install > script and that it is broken and doesn't properly support fpexe; in that > case, fix the script don't create another user. > The install script does support the fpexe, just that it causes the permission problems between the ../www/data & ../etc/apache directories. Originally the script would read the httpd.conf file for the user & group to chown the /usr/local/www/data directory. When it did this it caused the errors I mentioned above when using FrontPage 98 to create a sub-web. I tried fixing the script by assigning a known user to these directories and having the fp_install.sh script read the document root (usr/local/www/data) to determine the user & group names. That is why the port now creates a user & group and assigns them to these two directories prior to running the fp_install.sh script. Scot From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 06:18:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA11000 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 06:18:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from intra.vafibre.com ([205.139.223.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA10994 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 06:18:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jbrown@vafibre.com) Received: from is01 by intra.vafibre.com (Unoverica 2.11a) id 000007CF; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 09:18:37 -0500 From: "John Brown" To: Subject: Re: rdist Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 09:14:03 -0500 Message-ID: <01bce53e$1356a5f0$65df8bcd@is01.vafibre.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Now I believe that the problem lies in rsh not rdist. Going the opposite of the way that I want to go it works localserver.com << remoteserver.com but going the way I want it dies. localserver.com >> remoteserver.com Now I ran rdist as another user on both machines with the -D flag and found that as soon as the rsh command is invoked the permission denied is given. Now I can rsh from localserver to remoteserver with no problem. But on the successful rdist it attempts to do something with an stty command and that is where localserver.com is failing. If I try to run "rsh remoteserver.com stty" from localserver.com I get "permission denied" however going the other way It completes normally. I appreciate all the assistance that I have received. It has helped as I have gotten rdist to work. Just the WRONG WAY. Thanks again. John Brown From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 06:42:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA12210 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 06:42:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from wicked.eaznet.com ([206.62.254.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA12203 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 06:42:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eddie@eaznet.com) Received: from eaznet.com (as1-27.eaznet.com [206.62.254.235]) by wicked.eaznet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19089; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 07:45:03 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <34589DB9.E97EA59E@eaznet.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 07:46:17 -0700 From: Eddie Fry X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Barry Pool , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multi Pathing References: <3.0.1.32.19971030080752.007c3cb0@wico.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, I called the Corporation Commission (that's the "PUC" in AZ) and they said they'd look into it. It was kind of strange, I didn't have to wait on hold and the lady looking into it even asked for my e-mail address. I'm kind of wondering if I really called a "government" agency! Thanks for everyone's reply. I'll let you know what happens. Eddie Barry Pool wrote: > We do something similar to this except we are going through sites that are local to our area and another that is not. Basically, we are using call forwarding to route calls to us and avoid long distance. > > The phone company was the one that put me on to the idea. When I questioned if a local phone company, also a competitor, would do this or deny they could, the guy from GTE said, "If they were tariffed to do it, they could not say no." > > Not sure how you would find out that kind of information, but it might be worth doing some checking. > > Also, when I did call the local company, I did not tell them what I was going to do with the lines. Only that I had a business that needed a single phone number and that I want to use one number with multiple paths for data entry in a remote area for multiple users. > > Hope some of this helps. > > Good Luck! > > Barry > > Barry Pool > Wings Communications > 765-364-1877 > barry@wico.net -- Eddie Fry eddie@eaznet.com EAZNet Internet Services http://www.eaznet.com 220 West 7th Street Safford, AZ 85546 EAZing you into the future... From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 09:22:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA22658 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 09:22:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from dream.future.net (root@future.net [204.130.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA22624 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 09:21:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tomthai@future.net) Received: from dream.future.net (tomthai@future.net [204.130.134.1]) by dream.future.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA11021; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:19:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:19:00 -0600 (CST) From: "Tom T. Thai" To: "Rodney W. Grimes" cc: Bernie Doehner , danny@panda.hilink.com.au, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wireless Services In-Reply-To: <199706251622.JAA06049@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Rod, How did your test go with that 12mile? Also, what units from Breezecom did you test with? What did you pay for it? I have a building about 1/4 of a mile away that needs a connection.. I was thinking of doing this.. Hi Bernie! On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > ... > > > I was given a brochure about BreezeCom products, which *do* do frequency > > > hopping SS. . > > > 2195 Faraday Ave, Suite A > > > Carlsbad, CA 92008 > > > 1-619 431 9880 > > > > Don't have it onhand right now (I just remmember it being up there). > > > > The Breezecom stuff is nice because it > > does multi-rate (it goes to lower throughput if it can't make it at 3 > > Mbps). However, compared to the Freewave radios they are pretty deaf (fine > > for indoor use, but bad for long outdoor links). > > We are currently testing Breezecom's ``stuff'' over the same 12 mile > leg in my original message, currently waiting on the attenna climber > to crawl up the mast and deploy the 2.4GHz yagi. A quick little > test says we could here the transmitter okay. > > > > -- > Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com > Accurate Automation, Inc. Reliable computers for FreeBSD > .............. .................................... Thomas T. Thai Infomedia Interactive Communications tom@iic.net TEL 612.376.9090 * FAX 612.376.9087 From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 11:13:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA01096 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:13:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mole (mole.slip.net [207.171.193.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA01091 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:13:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dnelson@slip.net) Received: from slip-3.slip.net [207.171.193.17] (dnelson) by mole with smtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0xR01Z-0005c7-00; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:12:57 -0800 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:12:54 -0800 (PST) From: Dru Nelson X-Sender: dnelson@slip-3 To: Tom cc: alex huppenthal , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Transmission on DSL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > We're using the Krell 784kbit DSL modems with quad Cogent/Adaptec Ethernet > cards and getting periodic buffer overflow errors? The Krell is set for full > duplex operation 10 MB operation. > > I haven't tried 1/2 duplex because we want to set the modems to one setting. I would let it be half duplex/normal 10 mbit. 784kbit isn't going to hurt a 10 mbit. The added benefit here is that you know it will work since its normal ethernet and you will be able to place up to 5 of these per Freebsd ethernet interface. Just to be on the safe side, is the duplex on the Krell the problem? If so, are you sure that is for the ethernet interface? I've found that certain vendors detection of full duplex is really poor. (Cisco CAT5000 and Sun HME cards, they wouldn't even detect link proper) Man, I wish you were in my area, I would really like some DSL speed! Dru Nelson Redwood City, California From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 11:17:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA01421 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:17:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mole (mole.slip.net [207.171.193.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA01405 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:17:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dnelson@slip.net) Received: from slip-3.slip.net [207.171.193.17] (dnelson) by mole with smtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0xR03x-0005j3-00; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:15:25 -0800 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:15:24 -0800 (PST) From: Dru Nelson X-Sender: dnelson@slip-3 To: "Tom T. Thai" cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Bernie Doehner , danny@panda.hilink.com.au, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless Services In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Rod, > How did your test go with that 12mile? Also, what units from > Breezecom did you test with? What did you pay for it? I have a building > about 1/4 of a mile away that needs a connection.. I was thinking of doing > this.. > > Hi Bernie! > Make sure you have decent line of sight. The spread spectrum stuff is supposed to deal with that, but it doesn't always work so good. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 11:59:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA05129 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:59:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from dream.future.net (root@future.net [204.130.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA05110 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:59:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tomthai@future.net) Received: from dream.future.net (tomthai@future.net [204.130.134.1]) by dream.future.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA13332; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:56:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:56:35 -0600 (CST) From: "Tom T. Thai" To: Dru Nelson cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Bernie Doehner , danny@panda.hilink.com.au, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wireless Services In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk am in MN and sometimes the snow is really bad! how do we take care of the outdoor antena? line of site would be pretty bad during a snow storm. On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Dru Nelson wrote: > > Rod, > > How did your test go with that 12mile? Also, what units from > > Breezecom did you test with? What did you pay for it? I have a building > > about 1/4 of a mile away that needs a connection.. I was thinking of doing > > this.. > > > > Hi Bernie! > > > > Make sure you have decent line of sight. The spread spectrum stuff is > supposed to deal with that, but it doesn't always work so good. > > > > .............. .................................... Thomas T. Thai Infomedia Interactive Communications tom@iic.net TEL 612.376.9090 * FAX 612.376.9087 From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 12:09:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA06202 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:09:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mrin47.mail.aol.com (mrin47.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA06176; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:09:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Hetzels@aol.com) From: Hetzels@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by mrin47.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id PAA27586; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:09:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:09:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199710302009.PAA27586@mrin47.mail.aol.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ompleted I just discovered a problem with the port I created, the following directories must be owned by the user the apache-fp server runs as (in the httpd.conf file) other wise it can't read/write files to these directories. After fp_install.sh Correct owners User Group User Group ../etc/apache [root] [wheel] [nobody] [nogroup] All files ../www/data [nobody] [nogroup] [nobody] [nogroup] All files ../frontpage [bin] [bin] [nobody] [bin] dir & *.cnf files ../www/[VirtualServer] [?] [?] [nobody] [nogroup] All files /home/[user]/public_html [user] [user] [nobody] [user] All files My first attempt to solve the problem resulted in the FP Extentions only working with the ../www/data & ../etc/apache directories. Apparently, I'll have to modify the fp_install.sh script to chown ../etc/apache, ../www/data, and ../frontpage to the owner in the httpd.conf file. When a Virtual Server is created, its directory also needs to be owned by the user in the httpd.conf file. I discovered the Virtual Server problem when I tried using the HTML Administrations Forms. A users public_html directory must be owned by the user in the httpd.conf file, before FP98 can be used to create a user sub-web. Scot From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 13:36:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA12901 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:36:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from ns1.primelink.com (ns1.primelink.com [206.24.58.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA12893 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:36:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kbrown@primelink.com) Received: from mystic ([206.24.58.91]) by ns1.primelink.com (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11777) with ESMTP id AAA62; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:41:21 -0600 Message-ID: <3458FD5C.DA5CF7C@primelink.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:34:21 -0600 From: Kevin Brown Reply-To: kbrown@primelink.com Organization: Huber & Associates X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Tom T. Thai" CC: Dru Nelson , "Rodney W. Grimes" , Bernie Doehner , danny@panda.hilink.com.au, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wireless Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms1CBAB419AB6416AD83723C94" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms1CBAB419AB6416AD83723C94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom T. Thai wrote: > am in MN and sometimes the snow is really bad! how do we take care of > > the outdoor antena? line of site would be pretty bad during a snow > storm. As with practically any RF-based application, normal weathering presents no significant defects in the radio spectrum. Obviously an El-Ninio snowstorm *might* cause some detrimental effects. I would suggest as with any antenna which has "hollow" radials ( yagi-type ) to put a piece of nylon rope in each of the radials and seal them with a silicon epoxy. This will significantly reduce the stress on the antenna due to "singing". Radio stations, television stations, et al use wireless technology in bad weather everyday and normally don't experience problems. I highly doubt the average snow storm would cause any problems. The wind should be your biggest concern, and using the rope/epoxy should assist you in curing that problem. > > > On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Dru Nelson wrote: > > > > Rod, > > > How did your test go with that 12mile? Also, what units from > > > Breezecom did you test with? What did you pay for it? I have a > building > > > about 1/4 of a mile away that needs a connection.. I was thinking > of doing > > > this.. > > > > > > Hi Bernie! > > > > > > > Make sure you have decent line of sight. The spread spectrum stuff > is > > supposed to deal with that, but it doesn't always work so good. > > > > > > > > > > .............. .................................... > Thomas T. Thai Infomedia Interactive Communications > tom@iic.net TEL 612.376.9090 * FAX 612.376.9087 -- ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Kevin Brown WAN Specialist http://mystic.primelink.com kbrown@primelink.com Huber and Associates http://www.primelink.com IBM Business Partner 573.634.5000 PrimeLink.Com Web Hosting By Design FrontPage Presence Provider http://frontpage.primelink.com ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ------------------------------------------------------------------ Pursuate to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, Sec. 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. 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Moslow" X-Sender: bryn@wingnut.spacemonster.org To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Password file builds Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm running 2.2.2-RELEASE on a mail server that has several thousand users. The new box is pretty beefy: PPro 200, 256MB RAM, Adaptec 2940UW. The server it replaced was running BSD/OS 2.1 on a P133 w/ 80MB RAM Fast SCSI-2 (Buslogic). The mail system runs beautifully - very fast, very nice. I only have one rather annoying problem: Password file rebuilds just absolutely HAMMER the system. Whenever pwd_mkdb is running the whole box literally comes to a standstill (things still work - just VERY slowly.) This happens every 15 minutes if there has been a change to the master.passwd file I'm building from. The spwd.db and pwd.db are nearly 5MB and I'm using DES as I have several other boxes (Non-FreeBSD) that I have to stay compatible with for passwords. Someday they'll all be FreeBSD and no problem =). I've been running the password build under a nice value of '15' but if I'm watching top almost everything else on the box is in one of four STATEs: ufslk, getblk, wait, sbwait. The waits I get but I can't find anything on ufslk or getblk in the man pages or handbook. Maybe I'm on the wrong track but I'm thinking I've got disk I/O blockage. The disk is running furiously while pwd_mkdb is running but the system load actually DROPS while this is going on (presumably because everything is waiting) and then spikes way up for a minute as soon as it's finished and all the popper and sendmail processes get their time on the silicon and platters. I've been toying with the idea of running the filesystem(s) async but was hoping for something a little more solid. If I had another machine to build into an NIS server I might be inclined to do my builds elsewhere. Additionally, NIS would be a hard sell to the company president. He just don't like it. I've been avoiding it myself because of some horror stories and personal experiences. Right now, authentication (for popper and logins) is SLOW for the couple of minutes that pwd_mkdb is running. Every time my boss uses Eudora and has to see that blue bar I hear about it. Terminal Sessions are nearly unusable during the build. It irks me to say this but BSDI took almost no performance hit on a slower machine with slower drives with the same password files. Suggestions? /\ /\ /| Bryn Wm. Moslow / \ / \ / | Northwest Link Systems Administrator / \ / \ /\ / | (425) 451-1151 / \/ \/ \/ |_____ http://www.nwlink.com From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 14:11:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA14684 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:11:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from guardian.fortress.org (fortress.org [199.202.137.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA14664 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:11:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@guardian.fortress.org) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by guardian.fortress.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA23181; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 17:08:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 17:08:34 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Webster Reply-To: andrew@pubnix.net To: Kevin Brown cc: "Tom T. Thai" , Dru Nelson , "Rodney W. Grimes" , Bernie Doehner , danny@panda.hilink.com.au, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wireless Services In-Reply-To: <3458FD5C.DA5CF7C@primelink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Kevin Brown wrote: > Tom T. Thai wrote: > > > am in MN and sometimes the snow is really bad! how do we take care of > > > > the outdoor antena? line of site would be pretty bad during a snow > > storm. > > As with practically any RF-based application, normal weathering presents > no significant defects in the radio spectrum. Obviously an El-Ninio > snowstorm *might* cause some detrimental effects. I would suggest as > with any antenna which has "hollow" radials ( yagi-type ) to put a piece > of nylon rope in each of the radials and seal them with a silicon > epoxy. This will significantly reduce the stress on the antenna due to > "singing". > > Radio stations, television stations, et al use wireless technology in > bad weather everyday and normally don't experience problems. I highly > doubt the average snow storm would cause any problems. The wind should > be your biggest concern, and using the rope/epoxy should assist you in > curing that problem. > Excuse the interruption in your conversation. Actually at 2.4Ghz, you are nearing the excitation frequency of water (2.5Ghz if your average Microwave oven), you may see quite a bit of signal attenuation if there is snow/rain. Of course if your transmitter is powerful enough, you can just punch a hole in the weather. > > > > > > On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Dru Nelson wrote: > > > > > > Rod, > > > > How did your test go with that 12mile? Also, what units from > > > > Breezecom did you test with? What did you pay for it? I have a > > building > > > > about 1/4 of a mile away that needs a connection.. I was thinking > > of doing > > > > this.. > > > > > > > > Hi Bernie! > > > > > > > > > > Make sure you have decent line of sight. The spread spectrum stuff > > is > > > supposed to deal with that, but it doesn't always work so good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .............. .................................... > > Thomas T. Thai Infomedia Interactive Communications > > tom@iic.net TEL 612.376.9090 * FAX 612.376.9087 > > > > -- > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > Kevin Brown WAN Specialist http://mystic.primelink.com > kbrown@primelink.com > > > Huber and Associates http://www.primelink.com > IBM Business Partner 573.634.5000 > > PrimeLink.Com Web Hosting By Design > FrontPage Presence Provider http://frontpage.primelink.com > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Pursuate to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, Sec. 227, > any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is > subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. > Emailing denotes acceptance of these terms. > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > The ideas and issues expressed here are not necessarily those of my > employer. I take personal responsibility for these words which I > utter. So there! > Andrew Webster andrew@pubnix.net Key fingerprint = CF E8 16 B8 A6 DB E3 C9 83 E7 96 24 25 58 15 6E PubNIX Montreal Connected to the world Branche au monde P.O. Box 147 Cote Saint Luc, Quebec H4V 2Y3 tel 514.990.5911 http://www.pubnix.net fax 514.990.9443 From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 15:00:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA18230 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:00:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from hq.seicom.net (mail.seicom.net [194.97.200.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA18220 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:00:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from udesign!lukas@hq.seicom.net) Received: from udesign.UUCP by hq.seicom.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with UUCP id AAA02692; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 00:05:59 +0100 (CET) Received: by reactor.design.de id m0xR3aN-000BijC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Fri, 31 Oct 1997 00:01:07 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: lukas@design.de (Lukas Wunner) Subject: Re: Wireless Services In-Reply-To: from Andrew Webster at "Oct 30, 97 05:08:34 pm" To: andrew@pubnix.net Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 00:01:07 +0100 (MET) Cc: kbrown@primelink.com, tomthai@future.net, dnelson@slip.net, rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com, bad@uhf.wireless.net, danny@panda.hilink.com.au, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > Excuse the interruption in your conversation. Actually at 2.4Ghz, you are > nearing the excitation frequency of water (2.5Ghz if your average > Microwave oven), you may see quite a bit of signal attenuation if there is > snow/rain. Exactly. The weather can have a considerable influence on the signal quality: - transmission quality is higher in winter (air seems to be clearer?) - if there's a lightning somewhere in the vicinity, transmission will stop completely for a few seconds > Of course if your transmitter is powerful enough, you can just punch a > hole in the weather. Here in Germany (or rather, in all ETSI countries), the EIRP regulations are very strict, so even with the 18 dBi antennas, you cannot go further than about 2.5 km. According to a guy from BreezeCom, in China there are no regulations whatsoever wrt transmission power, so these guys are more or less roasting the birds on their antennas. IIRC, the guy spoke of 60W. The US version has 1W if I am not mistaken. Lukas, proud owner of a BreezeCom system w/ those crispy 18 dBi antennas. :-) -- lukas wunner unix, internetworking and security engineer lukas@wunner.de LW26-RIPE http://www.wunner.de/~lukas/ Funkmodems mit 2.4GHz FAQ http://www.wunner.de/~lukas/funk/ From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 15:36:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA20968 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:36:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from wireless.wdc.net (wireless.wdc.net [204.140.136.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA20962 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:36:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bad@uhf.wireless.net) Received: from uhf.wireless.net (uhf.wdc.net [198.147.74.44]) by wireless.wdc.net (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA18564; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:36:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wireless.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA01927; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 18:38:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 18:38:25 -0500 (EST) From: Bernie Doehner To: Lukas Wunner cc: andrew@pubnix.net, kbrown@primelink.com, tomthai@future.net, dnelson@slip.net, rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com, danny@panda.hilink.com.au, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wireless Services In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Here in Germany (or rather, in all ETSI countries), the EIRP regulations > are very strict, so even with the 18 dBi antennas, you cannot go > further than about 2.5 km. According to a guy from BreezeCom, in China > there are no regulations whatsoever wrt transmission power, so these guys > are more or less roasting the birds on their antennas. IIRC, the guy spoke > of 60W. The US version has 1W if I am not mistaken. Hmmm. I wonder if the Chinese version is modifiable for the 2.3 GHz. ham band? (Anyone going to China anytime soon and willing to bring me back one???) :) Bernie From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 17:56:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA00753 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 17:56:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from dream.future.net (root@future.net [204.130.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA00738 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 17:56:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tomthai@future.net) Received: from dream.future.net (tomthai@future.net [204.130.134.1]) by dream.future.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id TAA18868; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 19:52:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 19:52:55 -0600 (CST) From: "Tom T. Thai" To: Bernie Doehner cc: Lukas Wunner , andrew@pubnix.net, kbrown@primelink.com, dnelson@slip.net, rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com, danny@panda.hilink.com.au, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wireless Services In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk what do you guys use to measure line of sight so that it's as precise as possible? On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Bernie Doehner wrote: > > Here in Germany (or rather, in all ETSI countries), the EIRP regulations > > are very strict, so even with the 18 dBi antennas, you cannot go > > further than about 2.5 km. According to a guy from BreezeCom, in China > > there are no regulations whatsoever wrt transmission power, so these guys > > are more or less roasting the birds on their antennas. IIRC, the guy spoke > > of 60W. The US version has 1W if I am not mistaken. > > Hmmm. I wonder if the Chinese version is modifiable for the 2.3 GHz. ham > band? (Anyone going to China anytime soon and willing to bring me back > one???) :) > > Bernie > > .............. .................................... Thomas T. Thai Infomedia Interactive Communications tom@iic.net TEL 612.376.9090 * FAX 612.376.9087 From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 18:46:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA03750 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 18:46:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from sky.fit.qut.edu.au (root@sky.fit.qut.edu.au [131.181.2.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA03725; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 18:46:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@russell.icis.qut.edu.au) Received: from packman.icis.qut.edu.au (root@packman.icis.qut.edu.au [131.181.70.70]) by sky.fit.qut.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5/tony) with ESMTP id MAA02037; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:46:00 +1000 (EST) Received: from russell.icis.qut.edu.au (russell.icis.qut.edu.au [131.181.70.49]) by packman.icis.qut.edu.au (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id MAA24901; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:32:34 +1000 (EST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by russell.icis.qut.edu.au (8.7.1/8.7.1) id MAA11633; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:47:47 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:47:47 +1000 (EST) From: Steve Milliner Message-Id: <199710310247.MAA11633@russell.icis.qut.edu.au> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: modem transmision problems?? Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk RECAP: modem overflow problem /kernel: sio3: 78 more tty-level buffer overflows occurs: during mail delivery. tried: decreasing build up of mail on queue to stop flooding modem > Are you using user-mode ppp? If so, it sounds like the machine is > heavily loaded and the ppp process is being starved of CPU for extended > periods of time. > Yep using user ppp. AS for load - not really (98% idle) - not heavy enough to cause starvation in any case - which kind of suggests its a sending rather than receiving problem I guess?? Does anyone know if there are problems with how hang-ups on the client side are handled by FBSD - ie. the mail starts to get pushed on to the device, part way through the connection goes down, but data is still pushed on to the modem which now (obviously) can't get rid of it ?? but I find it hard to believe that this case would not be handeled (ie. sync sending of data to modem) ???? I guess I could go on making up little stories all week, SO Any solutions/experiences (especially solutions :>) would be VERY gratefully reveived! thanks in advance REGS Stephen From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 18:48:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA03872 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 18:48:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from ns.easy.re.kr (ns.ablex.net [192.203.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA03796 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 18:47:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from moonhunt@easy.re.kr) Received: (from moonhunt@localhost) by ns.easy.re.kr (8.6.12H1/8.6.12) id LAA07028 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:38:15 +0900 From: Hyun-Seog Ryu Message-Id: <199710310238.LAA07028@ns.easy.re.kr> Subject: restriction on IP aliasing??? To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:38:15 +1567541 (KST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21-h4] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, folks, I have a question on FreeBSD IP aliasing... Does FreeBSD support only one IP alias for each Ethernet port? Can I use several IP aliasing on one Ethernet port??? At Solaris, it is used many Virtual LAN address at one Ethernet port... But at FreeBSD, how to do??? Please let me know about it... Thank you for your concern. Regards, HyunSeog Ryu Network Manager at EASY-NET, ABLEX Co., Ltd. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 20:03:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA07931 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 20:03:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.8.15.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA07926 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 20:03:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@panda.hilink.com.au) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA20743; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 15:07:14 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 15:07:13 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Hyun-Seog Ryu cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: restriction on IP aliasing??? In-Reply-To: <199710310238.LAA07028@ns.easy.re.kr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Hyun-Seog Ryu wrote: > I have a question on FreeBSD IP aliasing... > Does FreeBSD support only one IP alias for each Ethernet port? > Can I use several IP aliasing on one Ethernet port??? > At Solaris, it is used many Virtual LAN address at one Ethernet port... > But at FreeBSD, how to do??? ifconfig ed0 201.2.3.4 netmask 0xffffff00 ifconfig ed0 201.2.3.5 netmask 0xffffffff alias ifconfig ed0 201.2.3.6 netmask 0xffffffff alias ifconfig ed0 201.2.3.7 netmask 0xffffffff alias ...etc... There is no restriction on the number. Note that unless the IPs belong on the ethernet network, it makes more sense to put them on lo0, not the ethernet interface. Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 21:14:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA11737 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 21:14:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from barney.webace.com.au ([203.25.160.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA11728; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 21:14:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jasonm@barney.webace.com.au) Received: from localhost (jasonm@localhost) by barney.webace.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA02627; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 13:21:53 +0800 (WST) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 13:21:53 +0800 (WST) From: Jason McKay To: questions@freebsd.org cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Restricting Access Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am attempting to restrict my clients any PPP access outsite of my system, except for one web site. Any suggestions? Thank you, Jason McKay. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 21:54:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA13589 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 21:54:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from dream.future.net (root@future.net [204.130.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA13578; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 21:54:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tomthai@future.net) Received: from dream.future.net (tomthai@future.net [204.130.134.1]) by dream.future.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id XAA22905; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 23:52:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 23:52:50 -0600 (CST) From: "Tom T. Thai" To: Jason McKay cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Restricting Access In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Jason McKay wrote: > I am attempting to restrict my clients any PPP access outsite of my > system, except for one web site. Any suggestions? ipf is what you want. .............. .................................... Thomas T. Thai Infomedia Interactive Communications tom@iic.net TEL 612.376.9090 * FAX 612.376.9087 From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 21:56:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA13857 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 21:56:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from pine.ablex.net (pine.ablex.net [192.203.140.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA13804 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 21:55:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from HyunSeog.Ryu@ablex.net) Received: from moonhunt.ablex.net (moonhunt.ablex.net [192.203.141.20]) by pine.ablex.net (8.6.12h2/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA27054; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:50:00 +0900 Message-ID: <34597270.73BE@ablex.net> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:53:52 +0900 From: HyunSeog Ryu Reply-To: HyunSeog.Ryu@ablex.net Organization: ABLEX Co., Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Shinkarev CC: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: restriction on IP aliasing??? References: <199710310238.LAA07028@ns.easy.re.kr> <34594D31.B8867A8B@tech.kgtu.runnet.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, folks, I got an answer from Boris. But some modification is needed... ifconfig command for alias set down state on ifconfig alias command. So I must do as below. in rc.conf (on our 2.2.2-RELEASE machine); add below line, ifconfig_vx0_alias0="inet 192.203.142.16 netmask 255.255.255.224 broadcast 192.203.142.31 up" ifconfig_vx0_alias1="inet 192.203.142.17 netmask 255.255.255.224 broadcast 192.203.142.31 up" So I must insert "up" to ifconfig command. But it does not work at our FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT Feb-1997 version. Do I have to do upgrade our server??? Regards, HyunSeog Ryu Network Manager at EASY-NET, ABLEX Co., Ltd. Boris Shinkarev wrote: > > Hyun-Seog Ryu wrote: > > > > Hi, folks, > > > > I have a question on FreeBSD IP aliasing... > > Does FreeBSD support only one IP alias for each Ethernet port? > > Can I use several IP aliasing on one Ethernet port??? > > At Solaris, it is used many Virtual LAN address at one Ethernet port... > > But at FreeBSD, how to do??? > > Please let me know about it... > > Thank you for your concern. > > > > Regards, > > > > HyunSeog Ryu > > Network Manager at EASY-NET, ABLEX Co., Ltd. > Hi ! > In rc.conf add line > ifconfig__alias > or manual ifconfig "some for your interface and ip" alias > see man ifconfig > -- $)C > bORIS {INKAREW, > Boris Shinkarev, > independet consultant for internet/intranet networks, From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 22:33:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA15742 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 22:33:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.8.15.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA15737 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 22:33:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@panda.hilink.com.au) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA20835; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 17:37:24 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 17:37:24 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: HyunSeog Ryu cc: Boris Shinkarev , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: restriction on IP aliasing??? In-Reply-To: <34597270.73BE@ablex.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, HyunSeog Ryu wrote: > > In rc.conf add line > > ifconfig__alias danny@hilink.com.au */ /* FreeBSD - works hard, plays hard... danny@freebsd.org */ From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Oct 30 22:41:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA16246 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 22:41:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from word.smith.net.au (word.smith.net.au [202.0.75.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA16218; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 22:41:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost.smith.net.au [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00529; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 17:07:23 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199710310637.RAA00529@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Steve Milliner cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: modem transmision problems?? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:47:47 +1000." <199710310247.MAA11633@russell.icis.qut.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 17:07:22 +1030 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > RECAP: modem overflow problem > > /kernel: sio3: 78 more tty-level buffer overflows > > occurs: during mail delivery. > > tried: decreasing build up of mail on queue to stop flooding modem > > > > Are you using user-mode ppp? If so, it sounds like the machine is > > heavily loaded and the ppp process is being starved of CPU for extended > > periods of time. > > > > Yep using user ppp. Ok. > AS for load - not really (98% idle) - not heavy enough to cause > starvation in any case - which kind of suggests its a sending > rather than receiving problem I guess?? No. Read the manpage entry I posted *again*. It refers to data *arriving* and not being dealt with. > Does anyone know if there are problems with how hang-ups > on the client side are handled by FBSD - ie. the mail starts to get pushed > on to the device, part way through the connection goes down, but data > is still pushed on to the modem which now (obviously) > can't get rid of it ?? but I find it hard to believe that this case would > not be handeled (ie. sync sending of data to modem) ???? I don't understand what you are saying; do you mean that these messages are only ever seen when the line drops? mike From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Oct 31 01:25:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA24367 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 01:25:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from ymris.ddm.on.ca (cisco3-149.cas.golden.net [207.6.168.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA24342; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 01:25:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dchapes@golden.net) Received: from squigy.ddm.on.ca (squigy.ddm.on.ca [209.47.139.138]) by ymris.ddm.on.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA20360; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 04:25:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dchapes@localhost) by squigy.ddm.on.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA22235; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 04:25:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19971031042509.23697@golden.net> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 04:25:09 -0500 From: Dave Chapeskie To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: "Bryn Wm. Moslow" Subject: Re: Password file builds References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: ; from Bryn Wm. Moslow on Thu, Oct 30, 1997 at 02:00:31PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, Oct 30, 1997 at 02:00:31PM -0800, Bryn Wm. Moslow wrote: > I'm running 2.2.2-RELEASE on a mail server that has several thousand > users. [...] > Password file rebuilds just absolutely HAMMER the system. Whenever > pwd_mkdb is running the whole box literally comes to a standstill I believe that the way FreeBSD handles the password files needs to be changed in order to handle a large number of users efficiently. Currently, unless called with the '-u' argument, pwd_mkdb rebuilds the ENTIRE password database from the text file. You can prevent this by avoiding things like vipw(8) in favor of things like chpass(1) which will call pwd_mkdb with the '-u' argument so that only a single record is rebuilt. This is still inefficient in that chpass keeps the text version of the password file in sync by rewriting the entire file. Ideally if only the db files were updated you'd have: add/delete O(log(n)) rebuild O(n*log(n)) Since chpass rebuilds the text file you get: add/delete O(n) and most of its time is spent writing out the text file. Since vipw rebuilds the whole database you get O(n*log(n)) for ANY change. So if you add users the way adduser(8) does, by stupidly appending to /etc/master.password and calling pwd_mkdb you have each addition taking O(n*log(n)) time whereas by simply using "chpass -a" instead, each addition takes only O(n) time. (ie adduser needs to be fixed!) For batch adding large numbers of users to systems that already have a lot of users (as many ISPs and the like will periodicly do) this changes to O(n^2*log(n)) for adduser(8), O(n^2) for "chpass -a", and O(n*log(n)) for a single vipw. If you make a small modification to chpass to NOT update the text file after each user is added (or to just append to it) then this drops multiple "chpass -a"'s to O(n)! Clearly the way the system handles the text version of the password file is inefficient for a large number of users. Also the usefulness of a text version decreases when you get tons of users (ie any shell scripts that grep the password file should be rewritten in C or perl to use the password database routines). For a friend of mine that wants to run a FreeBSD system with tens or hundreds of thousands of users I suggested he do the following: - Modify chpass and friends to not print a warning for uids > 65535. (I don't know why the warning is there, I've used UIDs>100000 with NFS before, perhaps something to do with NIS?). - Modify chpass and friends to NEVER update the text password file but to set a dirty flag within the database. - Add a flag to chpass for deleting a userid from the database. - Add a new command, say pwd_dump, that rebuilds the text password file from the password database if the dirty bit is set and then clears the dirty bit. BTW, the database already stores "line numbers" so you can maintain arbitrary ordering of the text password file. - Change vipw to print a warning that it may take a long while and call pwd_dump before calling the editor and then finally calling pwd_mkdb. - Run pwd_dump from cron periodically. Shell scripts or users that rely on grepping /etc/password instead of using the password routines won't always get what they expect since the text version may be out of date. Scripts can be rewritten in C or perl to use the password database routines to avoid this and to run _much_ faster. Since my friend's system only allows pop/imap/ftp access to most users the fact that the text version of the password file isn't always up to date doesn't matter. For him I even suggested adding arguments to pwd_dump to only extract a subset of the users (based on uid Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA01947 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 04:32:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (root@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA01940 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 04:32:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from panke.panke.de (anonymous214.ppp.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.214]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.8.6/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA15417; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 13:27:09 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by panke.panke.de (8.8.5/8.6.12) id LAA00508; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:21:16 +0100 (MET) To: "Bryn Wm. Moslow" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Password file builds References: From: Wolfram Schneider Date: 31 Oct 1997 11:21:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: "Bryn Wm. Moslow"'s message of Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:00:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Lines: 37 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Bryn Wm. Moslow" writes: > nice. I only have one rather annoying problem: Password file rebuilds just > absolutely HAMMER the system. Whenever pwd_mkdb is running the whole box > literally comes to a standstill (things still work - just VERY slowly.) > This happens every 15 minutes if there has been a change to the > master.passwd file I'm building from. The spwd.db and pwd.db are nearly > 5MB and I'm using DES as I have several other boxes (Non-FreeBSD) that I > have to stay compatible with for passwords. Someday they'll all be FreeBSD > and no problem =). try the option -u user. -u username Only update the record for the specified user. Utilities that op- erate on a single user can use this option to avoid the overhead of rebuilding the entire database. > I've been running the password build under a nice value of '15' but if I'm > watching top almost everything else on the box is in one of four STATEs: > ufslk, getblk, wait, sbwait. The waits I get but I can't find anything on > ufslk or getblk in the man pages or handbook. Maybe I'm on the wrong track > but I'm thinking I've got disk I/O blockage. The disk is running furiously > while pwd_mkdb is running but the system load actually DROPS while this is > going on (presumably because everything is waiting) and then spikes way up > for a minute as soon as it's finished and all the popper and sendmail > processes get their time on the silicon and platters. pwd_mkdb does often calls lseek(2) and read(2). You may build your password databases in a memory file system (mfs(8)). I runs pwd_mkdb for 13800 users and it took me 1 1/2 minutes on a 386DX40. 87.03 real 28.13 user 21.82 sys -- Wolfram Schneider http://www.apfel.de/~wosch/ From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Oct 31 04:49:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA03157 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 04:49:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from si-net.com (si-net.com [208.196.38.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA03151 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 04:49:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mascott@si-net.com) Received: from si-net.com (line40.si-net.com [208.196.38.54]) by si-net.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA00232 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 07:47:35 GMT Message-ID: <3459D4EA.9EDEBBE8@si-net.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 07:54:02 -0500 From: Mike Scott Reply-To: mascott@si-net.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: bad IP using Windows 95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I know this not a BSD questions, but I can not find a solution any where. I am an ISP and a customer had to re-install his system with the Packard Bell software. I don't what software other than Windows 95 Packard Bell puts on this CD but something is not right. Everything set-ups find in Windows95 for the internet but the system can not see out side of itself. I try to ping any IP address and get a message Bad Ip address. I have tried to un-install all network and dial-up stuff and re-installing it. Tried to install Netscape for 95, did work. Tried to install a newer version of IE, not luck. Thanks for the help, many be someone have ran into this before. Mike From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Oct 31 06:41:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA11309 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 06:41:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from wopr.inetu.net (wopr.inetu.net [207.18.13.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA11302 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 06:40:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dev@wopr.inetu.net) Received: from localhost (dev@localhost) by wopr.inetu.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA22330 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:46:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:46:05 -0500 (EST) From: Dev Chanchani To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: FYI Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Not really a concern, but I thought I would let everybody know.. Look at the load averages.. root@serv1:/usr/www>w 10:34AM up 6 days, 1:56, 2 users, load averages: 198.50, 120.96, 57.50 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT galaxy v0 - Wed09PM 2 -bash (bash) root p0 wopr 10:00AM - w root@serv1:/usr/www> root@serv1:/usr/www>w 10:34AM up 6 days, 1:56, 2 users, load averages: 198.50, 120.96, 57.50 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT galaxy v0 - Wed09PM 2 -bash (bash) root p0 wopr 10:00AM - w root@serv1:/usr/www> root@serv1:/usr/www>w 10:34AM up 6 days, 1:56, 2 users, load averages: 198.50, 120.96, 57.50 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT galaxy v0 - Wed09PM 2 -bash (bash) root p0 wopr 10:00AM - w This server, ran out of disk space, was getting hammered with e-mail (through sendmail), was running log stats on a 500meg log file, was backing up another 500 meg log file (to make disk space) and had two web servers with 225 max clients maxed. It came back to fine working order without a reboot ;-) Took like 60 seconds for a newline when you hit enter on a shell, but heh, the machine was busy :) The machine was a P150 with 3 GB of IDE hd .. heh. Go FreeBSD!! From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Oct 31 07:15:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA13607 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 07:15:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from netrail.net (netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA13602 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 07:15:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonz@netrail.net) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA26217; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:13:17 GMT Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:13:17 +0000 (GMT) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: "Bryn Wm. Moslow" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Password file builds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Why don't you build the file on another machine and rdist the password databases back to the mail server? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan A. Zdziarski NetRail Incorporated Systems Engineering Manager 230 Peachtree St. Suite 500 jonz@netrail.net Atlanta, GA 30303 http://www.netrail.net (888) - NETRAIL ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Bryn Wm. Moslow wrote: :Hello, : :I'm running 2.2.2-RELEASE on a mail server that has several thousand :users. The new box is pretty beefy: PPro 200, 256MB RAM, Adaptec 2940UW. :The server it replaced was running BSD/OS 2.1 on a P133 w/ 80MB RAM Fast :SCSI-2 (Buslogic). The mail system runs beautifully - very fast, very :nice. I only have one rather annoying problem: Password file rebuilds just :absolutely HAMMER the system. Whenever pwd_mkdb is running the whole box :literally comes to a standstill (things still work - just VERY slowly.) :This happens every 15 minutes if there has been a change to the :master.passwd file I'm building from. The spwd.db and pwd.db are nearly :5MB and I'm using DES as I have several other boxes (Non-FreeBSD) that I :have to stay compatible with for passwords. Someday they'll all be FreeBSD :and no problem =). : :I've been running the password build under a nice value of '15' but if I'm :watching top almost everything else on the box is in one of four STATEs: :ufslk, getblk, wait, sbwait. The waits I get but I can't find anything on :ufslk or getblk in the man pages or handbook. Maybe I'm on the wrong track :but I'm thinking I've got disk I/O blockage. The disk is running furiously :while pwd_mkdb is running but the system load actually DROPS while this is :going on (presumably because everything is waiting) and then spikes way up :for a minute as soon as it's finished and all the popper and sendmail :processes get their time on the silicon and platters. : :I've been toying with the idea of running the filesystem(s) async but was :hoping for something a little more solid. If I had another machine to :build into an NIS server I might be inclined to do my builds elsewhere. :Additionally, NIS would be a hard sell to the company president. He just :don't like it. I've been avoiding it myself because of some horror stories :and personal experiences. : :Right now, authentication (for popper and logins) is SLOW for the couple :of minutes that pwd_mkdb is running. Every time my boss uses Eudora and :has to see that blue bar I hear about it. Terminal Sessions are nearly :unusable during the build. It irks me to say this but BSDI took almost no :performance hit on a slower machine with slower drives with the same :password files. Suggestions? : : : /\ /\ /| Bryn Wm. Moslow : / \ / \ / | Northwest Link Systems Administrator : / \ / \ /\ / | (425) 451-1151 :/ \/ \/ \/ |_____ http://www.nwlink.com : From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Oct 31 07:51:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA15817 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 07:51:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from errigle.gpl.net (mail@errigle.gpl.net [194.46.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA15812 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 07:51:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bradley@gpl.net) Received: from bradley by errigle.gpl.net with smtp (Exim 1.595 #1) id 0xRJ9e-0000jH-00 (Debian); Fri, 31 Oct 1997 15:38:34 +0000 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 15:38:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Dermot Bradley To: Lukas Wunner cc: andrew@pubnix.net, kbrown@primelink.com, tomthai@future.net, dnelson@slip.net, rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com, bad@uhf.wireless.net, danny@panda.hilink.com.au, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless Services In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Lukas Wunner wrote: > Here in Germany (or rather, in all ETSI countries), the EIRP regulations > are very strict, so even with the 18 dBi antennas, you cannot go > further than about 2.5 km. ETSI 300 328 specifies 100mW max. I've used both Cylink (128k data rate) at 5 miles (capable of 7 miles) and Wavelan-derived boxes (2Mb data rate) at 1.5 miles (capable of 6km). I thought that the Breezecom boxes could do approx. 6-7 miles. Dermot -- Dermot Bradley Belfast, Northern Ireland bradley@oldcolo.com, bradley@debian.org From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Oct 31 09:27:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA21319 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:27:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from dream.future.net (future.net [204.130.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA21309 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:27:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tomthai@future.net) Received: from dream.future.net (tomthai@future.net [204.130.134.1]) by dream.future.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA10116; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:25:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:25:52 -0600 (CST) From: "Tom T. Thai" To: Dev Chanchani cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FYI In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Wow, you run IDE on that system.. no wonder. On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Dev Chanchani wrote: > Not really a concern, but I thought I would let everybody know.. > > Look at the load averages.. > > root@serv1:/usr/www>w > 10:34AM up 6 days, 1:56, 2 users, load averages: 198.50, 120.96, 57.50 > USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT > galaxy v0 - Wed09PM 2 -bash (bash) > root p0 wopr 10:00AM - w > root@serv1:/usr/www> > root@serv1:/usr/www>w > 10:34AM up 6 days, 1:56, 2 users, load averages: 198.50, 120.96, 57.50 > USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT > galaxy v0 - Wed09PM 2 -bash (bash) > root p0 wopr 10:00AM - w > root@serv1:/usr/www> > root@serv1:/usr/www>w > 10:34AM up 6 days, 1:56, 2 users, load averages: 198.50, 120.96, 57.50 > USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT > galaxy v0 - Wed09PM 2 -bash (bash) > root p0 wopr 10:00AM - w > > This server, ran out of disk space, was getting hammered with e-mail > (through sendmail), was running log stats on a 500meg log file, was > backing up another 500 meg log file (to make disk space) and had two web > servers with 225 max clients maxed. > > It came back to fine working order without a reboot ;-) > > Took like 60 seconds for a newline when you hit enter on a shell, but heh, > the machine was busy :) > > The machine was a P150 with 3 GB of IDE hd .. heh. > > Go FreeBSD!! > > .............. .................................... Thomas T. Thai Infomedia Interactive Communications tom@iic.net TEL 612.376.9090 * FAX 612.376.9087 From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Oct 31 11:22:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA28887 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:22:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from wicked.eaznet.com ([206.62.254.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA28874 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:22:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chaz@wicked.eaznet.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by wicked.eaznet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id MAA00361 for isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:23:59 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:23:59 -0700 (MST) From: Chaz Danila Message-Id: <199710311923.MAA00361@wicked.eaznet.com> To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: file system full Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I keep getting an error: /kernel: pid 347 (mail.local), uid 0 on /: file system full Yetr when I do a df: /dev/sd0a 80% / /dev/sd0s1f 29% /usr /dev/sd0s1e 37% /var procfs 100% /proc Why am I getting that message? Any ideas? Thanks! Eddie From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Oct 31 11:46:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA00461 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:46:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from guardian.fortress.org (fortress.org [199.202.137.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA00448 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:46:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@guardian.fortress.org) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by guardian.fortress.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA01148; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:45:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:45:55 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Webster Reply-To: andrew@pubnix.net To: Chaz Danila cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: file system full In-Reply-To: <199710311923.MAA00361@wicked.eaznet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Chaz Danila wrote: > I keep getting an error: > > /kernel: pid 347 (mail.local), uid 0 on /: file system full > > Yetr when I do a df: > > /dev/sd0a 80% / > /dev/sd0s1f 29% /usr > /dev/sd0s1e 37% /var > procfs 100% /proc You don't show how big your / partition is. Someone may be trying to send you a really big message, and it is overflowing the partition. Remember that email will transit throught /tmp and /var/spool/mqueue at some point in its life. Andrew Webster andrew@pubnix.net Key fingerprint = CF E8 16 B8 A6 DB E3 C9 83 E7 96 24 25 58 15 6E PubNIX Montreal Connected to the world Branche au monde P.O. Box 147 Cote Saint Luc, Quebec H4V 2Y3 tel 514.990.5911 http://www.pubnix.net fax 514.990.9443 From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Oct 31 12:40:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA03575 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:40:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mole (mole.slip.net [207.171.193.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA03570 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:40:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dnelson@slip.net) Received: from slip-3.slip.net [207.171.193.17] (dnelson) by mole with smtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0xRNrR-00053k-00; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:40:05 -0800 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:40:03 -0800 (PST) From: Dru Nelson X-Sender: dnelson@slip-3 To: Chaz Danila cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: file system full In-Reply-To: <199710311923.MAA00361@wicked.eaznet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is this related to ISP? This is more of a newbie sysamdin question. On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Chaz Danila wrote: > I keep getting an error: > > /kernel: pid 347 (mail.local), uid 0 on /: file system full > > Yetr when I do a df: > > /dev/sd0a 80% / > /dev/sd0s1f 29% /usr > /dev/sd0s1e 37% /var > procfs 100% /proc > > Why am I getting that message? Any ideas? > > Thanks! > > Eddie > From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Oct 31 13:44:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA07214 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 13:44:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA07208 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 13:44:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sderdau@xtdl.com) Received: from user.xtdl.com (user.xtdl.com [206.25.228.20]) by user.xtdl.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA18871 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 17:04:56 -0500 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 17:04:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Stephen A. Derdau" To: freebsd-isp@freeBSD.org Subject: Sympthoms In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970611141428.007d9330@mail.besys.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Firts urls such as http://home.netscape.com would come back saying not found. Hit the home button on netscape and it would find it the second time. Perscription: Get the latest named.root file. Done Now this appears to fix the problem. After effects: Now if people are dialed into our main location they can get to sites such as http://home.netscape.com or http://www.encarta.com However if someone is logged into a pop site that has modems , router, and portmaster. They cannot get to sites such as http://www.encarta.com it comes back saying not found. Hoping some doctor out there can identify these sympthoms and tell me the cure. :) Happy Halloween!!!! don't mind the spellllling. I can't! Stephen A. Derdau XTDL inc 10 Chestnut Dr. Bedford, NH 03110 603 4714700 "If it wasn't for something I would have nothing!:)" From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Oct 31 16:16:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA15038 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 16:16:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA15033 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 16:16:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id KAA29709; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 10:46:08 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19971101104608.22644@lemis.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 10:46:08 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Dru Nelson Cc: Chaz Danila , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: file system full References: <199710311923.MAA00361@wicked.eaznet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from Dru Nelson on Fri, Oct 31, 1997 at 12:40:03PM -0800 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, Oct 31, 1997 at 12:40:03PM -0800, Dru Nelson wrote: > > On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Chaz Danila wrote: > >> I keep getting an error: >> >> /kernel: pid 347 (mail.local), uid 0 on /: file system full >> >> Yetr when I do a df: >> >> /dev/sd0a 80% / >> /dev/sd0s1f 29% /usr >> /dev/sd0s1e 37% /var >> procfs 100% /proc >> >> Why am I getting that message? Any ideas? > > Is this related to ISP? This is more of a newbie sysamdin > question. No, of course it's not an ISP question. People, *please* use the correct lists, or you'll end up annoying the people you rely on for help. Read http://www.lemis.com/questions.html for more details. This is becoming more common. The problem is that somebody has sent you an enormous mail message, and it's being copied into /tmp, and there's no space. You can do one of two things: 1. Move /tmp to a larger file system and make it a symlink or a mount point. 2. Pick up ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/mail.local, which uses /var/tmp instead of /tmp. Greg From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 1 00:15:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA07282 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 00:15:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from gras-varg.worldgate.com (root@gras-varg.worldgate.com [198.161.84.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA07245; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 00:14:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from skafte@worldgate.com) Received: (from skafte@localhost) by gras-varg.worldgate.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id AAA10284; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 00:51:42 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <19971101005141.20155@worldgate.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 00:51:41 -0700 From: Greg Skafte To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Multiport Ethernet Cards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 Organization: WorldGate Inc. X-PGP-Fingerprint: 42 9C 2C A8 4D 2B C9 C4 7D B6 00 B0 50 47 20 97 X-URL: http://gras-varg.worldgate.com/~skafte Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Since ZNYX has delayed shipment of their 4port 10/100 nics, we are looking at alternatives. What are peoples experience with either the adaptec or the matrox multiport nics. or is there another nic that is getting rave reveiws, that I haven't mentioned. -- Email: skafte@worldgate.com Voice: +403 413 1910 Fax: +403 421 4929 #575 Sun Life Place * 10123 99 Street * Edmonton, AB * Canada * T5J 3H1 -- -- When things can't get any worse, they simplify themselves by getting a whole lot worse then complicated. A complete and utter disaster is the simplest thing in the world; it's preventing one that's complex. (Janet Morris) From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 1 02:21:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA12063 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 02:21:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [195.1.171.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id CAA12052 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 02:20:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) From: sthaug@nethelp.no Received: (qmail 13197 invoked by uid 1001); 1 Nov 1997 10:20:51 +0000 (GMT) To: skafte@worldgate.com Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Multiport Ethernet Cards In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 1 Nov 1997 00:51:41 -0700" References: <19971101005141.20155@worldgate.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.28.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 11:20:51 +0100 Message-ID: <13195.878379651@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Since ZNYX has delayed shipment of their 4port 10/100 nics, > we are looking at alternatives. > > What are peoples experience with either the adaptec or the matrox > multiport nics. or is there another nic that is getting rave > reveiws, that I haven't mentioned. If two port NICs are an option for you, we have very good experience with the SMC 9332BDT (21140 based, of course). Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 1 07:26:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA23532 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 07:26:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from guardian.fortress.org (fortress.org [199.202.137.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA23526 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 07:26:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@guardian.fortress.org) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by guardian.fortress.org (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA06582; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 10:25:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 10:25:47 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Webster Reply-To: andrew@pubnix.net To: Greg Lehey cc: Dru Nelson , Chaz Danila , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: file system full In-Reply-To: <19971101104608.22644@lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 1 Nov 1997, Greg Lehey wrote: > > Is this related to ISP? This is more of a newbie sysamdin > > question. > > No, of course it's not an ISP question. People, *please* use the > correct lists, or you'll end up annoying the people you rely on for > help. Read http://www.lemis.com/questions.html for more details. I disagree, this is very much an ISP related question. The behaviour of sendmail writing in /tmp is not well documented, and anyone running an ISP on FreeBSD will be affected by this problem unless they are aware of it! Regards, Andrew Webster andrew@pubnix.net Key fingerprint = CF E8 16 B8 A6 DB E3 C9 83 E7 96 24 25 58 15 6E PubNIX Montreal Connected to the world Branche au monde P.O. Box 147 Cote Saint Luc, Quebec H4V 2Y3 tel 514.990.5911 http://www.pubnix.net fax 514.990.9443 From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 1 09:41:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA28434 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 09:41:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mole (mole.slip.net [207.171.193.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA28429 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 09:41:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dnelson@slip.net) Received: from slip-3.slip.net [207.171.193.17] (dnelson) by mole with smtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0xRhXy-0001M5-00; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 09:41:18 -0800 Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 09:41:18 -0800 (PST) From: Dru Nelson X-Sender: dnelson@slip-3 To: andrew@pubnix.net cc: Chaz Danila , isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: file system full In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Really, I think it is a general sysadmin question and I think there is a lot of documentation and study that can prepare someone for this situation (file system full). This problem (people running sendmail as an ISP without knowing how to really admin sendmail) _is not_ specific to FreeBSD or FreeBSD ISP. There are other lists for general sysadmin questions or sendmail topics. > I disagree, this is very much an ISP related question. The behaviour of > sendmail writing in /tmp is not well documented, and anyone running an > ISP on FreeBSD will be affected by this problem unless they are aware of > it! > Andrew Webster andrew@pubnix.net > Key fingerprint = CF E8 16 B8 A6 DB E3 C9 83 E7 96 24 25 58 15 6E > PubNIX Montreal Connected to the world Branche au monde > P.O. Box 147 Cote Saint Luc, Quebec H4V 2Y3 > tel 514.990.5911 http://www.pubnix.net fax 514.990.9443 From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 1 10:43:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA01533 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 10:43:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from etinc.com (et-gw-fr1.etinc.com [204.141.244.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA01510; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 10:43:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys.etinc.com (dbsys.etinc.com [204.141.95.138]) by etinc.com (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA02330; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 13:44:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971101134418.00acec90@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 13:44:19 -0500 To: sthaug@nethelp.no, skafte@worldgate.com From: dennis Subject: Re: Multiport Ethernet Cards Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 11:20 AM 11/1/97 +0100, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote: >> Since ZNYX has delayed shipment of their 4port 10/100 nics, >> we are looking at alternatives. >> >> What are peoples experience with either the adaptec or the matrox >> multiport nics. or is there another nic that is getting rave >> reveiws, that I haven't mentioned. > >If two port NICs are an option for you, we have very good experience >with the SMC 9332BDT (21140 based, of course). Anyone have a US price for these? Are they still much more that twice the single port cards? Dennis From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 1 11:21:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA03269 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 11:21:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mail.trace.com.tw (root@mail.trace.com.tw [203.67.189.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA03264 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 11:21:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ronald@trace.com.tw) Received: from ronald.trace.com.tw (ronald@ronald.trace.com.tw [203.67.189.30]) by mail.trace.com.tw (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id DAA07598 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 03:23:49 +0800 Message-Id: <199711011923.DAA07598@mail.trace.com.tw> From: "Ronald Wiplinger" To: "FreeBSD-isp" Date: Sun, 02 Nov 97 03:22:21 +0800 Reply-To: "Ronald Wiplinger" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Routing entry for sysconf Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have added into my router computer running FreeBSD 3 ethernet cards and one Router card. I have problems to figure out the right way to define the subnets for the three ethernet cards in sysconfig. I want: fxp0: 203.67.189.0 netmask 255.255.255.112 (0, 1 - 30, 31 [network, usable addresses, broadcast]) (for all servers 100 MB/s) ed0: 203.67.189.32 netmask 255.255.255.112 (32, 33 - 62, 63) (for our office 10 MB/s) ed1: 203.67.189.64 netmask 255.255.255.112 (64, 65 - 94, 95) ed1: 203.67.189.96 netmask 255.255.255.112 (96, 97 - 126, 127) ed1: 203.67.189.128 netmask 255.255.255.112 (128, 129 - 158, 159) ed1: 203.67.189.160 netmask 255.255.255.112 (160, 161 - 190, 191) ed1: 203.67.189.192 netmask 255.255.255.112 (192, 193 - 222, 223) ed1: 203.67.189.224 netmask 255.255.255.112 (224, 225 - 254, 255) (for class room 10 MB/s) eth0: 192.168.19.22 192.168.19.21 netmask 255.255.255.252 to my provider eth1: 192.168.150.1 192.168.150.2 netmask 255.255.255.255 to my customer .... bye Ronald Wiplinger Gen. Manager of Wang's Trace International Co., Ltd. (Taiwan: Taipei, Touyuan, Kaohsiung) Tel: +886 2 609-0652, Handy: +886 932 251430 Fax: +886 2 600-0132 http://www.trace.com.tw From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 1 11:57:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA04498 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 11:57:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from gras-varg.worldgate.com (skafte@gras-varg.worldgate.com [198.161.84.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA04493; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 11:57:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from skafte@worldgate.com) Received: (from skafte@localhost) by gras-varg.worldgate.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id MAA14581; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 12:56:24 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <19971101125624.28439@worldgate.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 12:56:24 -0700 From: Greg Skafte To: dennis Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Multiport Ethernet Cards References: <3.0.32.19971101134418.00acec90@etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19971101134418.00acec90@etinc.com>; from dennis on Sat, Nov 01, 1997 at 01:44:19PM -0500 Organization: WorldGate Inc. X-PGP-Fingerprint: 42 9C 2C A8 4D 2B C9 C4 7D B6 00 B0 50 47 20 97 X-URL: http://gras-varg.worldgate.com/~skafte Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Quoting dennis (dennis@etinc.com) On Subject: Re: Multiport Ethernet Cards Date: Sat, Nov 01, 1997 at 01:44:19PM -0500 > At 11:20 AM 11/1/97 +0100, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote: > >> Since ZNYX has delayed shipment of their 4port 10/100 nics, > >> we are looking at alternatives. > >> > >> What are peoples experience with either the adaptec or the matrox > >> multiport nics. or is there another nic that is getting rave > >> reveiws, that I haven't mentioned. > > > >If two port NICs are an option for you, we have very good experience > >with the SMC 9332BDT (21140 based, of course). > > Anyone have a US price for these? Are they still much more that > twice the single port cards? the quad cards are ~ $250 (canadian) per port but this is still cheaper than gettting a 16 port passive PCI back plane computer and using single nics. (~425 per port canadian ) and a lot cheaper than a 8 or 12 port cisco. > > Dennis -- Email: skafte@worldgate.com Voice: +403 413 1910 Fax: +403 421 4929 #575 Sun Life Place * 10123 99 Street * Edmonton, AB * Canada * T5J 3H1 -- -- When things can't get any worse, they simplify themselves by getting a whole lot worse then complicated. A complete and utter disaster is the simplest thing in the world; it's preventing one that's complex. (Janet Morris) From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 1 12:03:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA04763 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 12:03:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from freefall.pipeline.ch (freefall.pipeline.ch [195.134.128.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA04753 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 12:03:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre@pipeline.ch) Received: from pipeline.ch ([195.134.128.162]) by freefall.pipeline.ch (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA11325; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 21:01:28 +0100 Message-ID: <345B996E.6BE19A06@pipeline.ch> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 22:04:47 +0100 From: "IBS / Andre Oppermann" Organization: Internet Business Solutions Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ronald Wiplinger CC: FreeBSD-isp Subject: Re: Routing entry for sysconf References: <199711011923.DAA07598@mail.trace.com.tw> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You have calculated you netmasks in the wrong way. The right way is this: 256 - 32 (the size of the subnet) = 224 So you have to enter 255.255.255.224 for your netmask. Ronald Wiplinger wrote: > > I have added into my router computer running FreeBSD 3 ethernet cards and one Router card. > > I have problems to figure out the right way to define the subnets for the three ethernet cards in sysconfig. > > I want: > > fxp0: 203.67.189.0 netmask 255.255.255.112 (0, 1 - 30, 31 [network, usable addresses, broadcast]) > (for all servers 100 MB/s) > > ed0: 203.67.189.32 netmask 255.255.255.112 (32, 33 - 62, 63) > (for our office 10 MB/s) > > ed1: 203.67.189.64 netmask 255.255.255.112 (64, 65 - 94, 95) > ed1: 203.67.189.96 netmask 255.255.255.112 (96, 97 - 126, 127) > ed1: 203.67.189.128 netmask 255.255.255.112 (128, 129 - 158, 159) > ed1: 203.67.189.160 netmask 255.255.255.112 (160, 161 - 190, 191) > ed1: 203.67.189.192 netmask 255.255.255.112 (192, 193 - 222, 223) > ed1: 203.67.189.224 netmask 255.255.255.112 (224, 225 - 254, 255) > (for class room 10 MB/s) > > eth0: 192.168.19.22 192.168.19.21 netmask 255.255.255.252 to my provider > eth1: 192.168.150.1 192.168.150.2 netmask 255.255.255.255 to my customer > .... > > bye > > Ronald Wiplinger > Gen. Manager of Wang's Trace International Co., Ltd. (Taiwan: Taipei, Touyuan, Kaohsiung) > Tel: +886 2 609-0652, Handy: +886 932 251430 Fax: +886 2 600-0132 > http://www.trace.com.tw From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 1 12:36:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA06285 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 12:36:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mole (mole.slip.net [207.171.193.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA06277 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 12:36:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dnelson@slip.net) Received: from slip-3.slip.net [207.171.193.17] (dnelson) by mole with smtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0xRkHQ-0005HK-00; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 12:36:24 -0800 Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 12:36:22 -0800 (PST) From: Dru Nelson X-Sender: dnelson@slip-3 To: Ronald Wiplinger cc: FreeBSD-isp Subject: Re: Routing entry for sysconf In-Reply-To: <199711011923.DAA07598@mail.trace.com.tw> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Your subnet masks look like one part of the problem. 112 = 0111 0000 Subnet masks require continous bits of 1 Since you are dividing the nets into 32 addresses each or 8 subnets, 111 00000 = 224 So try 255.255.255.224 Also, the RFC isn't clear on this and most routers ignore this anyway (ie. you can get away with it) but you shouldn't use the 0 or 8 subnets. On Sun, 2 Nov 1997, Ronald Wiplinger wrote: > I have added into my router computer running FreeBSD 3 ethernet cards and one Router card. > > I have problems to figure out the right way to define the subnets for the three ethernet cards in sysconfig. > > I want: > > fxp0: 203.67.189.0 netmask 255.255.255.112 (0, 1 - 30, 31 [network, usable addresses, broadcast]) > (for all servers 100 MB/s) > > ed0: 203.67.189.32 netmask 255.255.255.112 (32, 33 - 62, 63) > (for our office 10 MB/s) > > ed1: 203.67.189.64 netmask 255.255.255.112 (64, 65 - 94, 95) > ed1: 203.67.189.96 netmask 255.255.255.112 (96, 97 - 126, 127) > ed1: 203.67.189.128 netmask 255.255.255.112 (128, 129 - 158, 159) > ed1: 203.67.189.160 netmask 255.255.255.112 (160, 161 - 190, 191) > ed1: 203.67.189.192 netmask 255.255.255.112 (192, 193 - 222, 223) > ed1: 203.67.189.224 netmask 255.255.255.112 (224, 225 - 254, 255) > (for class room 10 MB/s) > > eth0: 192.168.19.22 192.168.19.21 netmask 255.255.255.252 to my provider > eth1: 192.168.150.1 192.168.150.2 netmask 255.255.255.255 to my customer > .... > > > > > > > bye > > Ronald Wiplinger > Gen. Manager of Wang's Trace International Co., Ltd. (Taiwan: Taipei, Touyuan, Kaohsiung) > Tel: +886 2 609-0652, Handy: +886 932 251430 Fax: +886 2 600-0132 > http://www.trace.com.tw > > From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 1 14:09:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA10712 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 14:09:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from game.over.net (game.over.net [193.189.162.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA10707 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 14:09:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tomaz.borstnar@over.net) Received: from [193.189.183.10] ([193.189.183.10] HELO hang ident: NO-IDENT-SERVICE [port 12038]) by mail.over.net with SMTP id <53829-168>; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 23:09:08 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19971101221516.00d177b0@haktar.siol.net> X-Sender: tomaz@haktar.siol.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 22:15:16 +0100 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Tomaz Borstnar Subject: DNS setup: multiple IP numbers under single name in NS record? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! Is something like this problematic: dom.ain IN NS multi-ip-name-of-host dom.ain IN NS some.remote.secondary where multi-ip-name-of-host has 2 IP addresses... Could this break anything? Tomaz ---- Tomaz Borstnar From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 1 14:29:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA11478 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 14:29:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from wireless.4d.net (wireless.4D.NET [207.137.156.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA11461 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 14:29:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bad@uhf.wireless.net) Received: from uhf.wireless.net (uhf.wireless.net [207.137.157.140]) by wireless.4d.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA12516; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 14:30:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wireless.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA11819; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 17:33:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 17:33:40 -0500 (EST) From: Bernie Doehner To: Tomaz Borstnar cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS setup: multiple IP numbers under single name in NS record? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19971101221516.00d177b0@haktar.siol.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is more of a general ISP question (doesn't have anything to do with FreeBSD), in the future you might want to ask this on a more general list, such as: IAP@VMA.CC.ND.EDU.. I think the listserver is at listserv@vma.cc.nd.edu. To answer your question.. Take a very quick look at uhf.wireless.net DO IT NOW, because I'll be changing the DNS in a few hours - uhf and I are moving to Dallas and wireless.wdc.net will be taking over uhf.wireless.net services, so if I update the DNS it will only point to it's new (temporary) home. Do: nslookup, set type=any, uhf.wireless.net), and you'll see that uhf is using two addresses from two different ISPs.. This is through a private tunneling arrangement and works fine.. Under FreeBSD telnet, it even works so well that when one address times out or is unreachable it goes to the other ip address. Bernie On Sat, 1 Nov 1997, Tomaz Borstnar wrote: > Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 22:15:16 +0100 > From: Tomaz Borstnar > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: DNS setup: multiple IP numbers under single name in NS record? > > Hello! > > > Is something like this problematic: > > dom.ain IN NS multi-ip-name-of-host > dom.ain IN NS some.remote.secondary > > > where multi-ip-name-of-host has 2 IP addresses... > > Could this break anything? > > > Tomaz > ---- > Tomaz Borstnar > From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 1 16:06:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA15739 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 16:06:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from isgate.is (isgate.is [193.4.58.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA15724 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 16:06:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from totii@est.is) Received: from eh.est.is (eh.est.is [194.144.208.34]) by isgate.is (8.7.5-M/) with ESMTP id AAA00421; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 00:06:27 GMT Received: from didda.est.is (totii@ppp-22.est.is [194.144.208.122]) by eh.est.is (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA20908; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 00:04:41 GMT Message-ID: <345BC3F7.794BDF32@est.is> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 00:06:15 +0000 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=DEor=F0ur?= Ivarsson X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tomaz Borstnar CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS setup: multiple IP numbers under single name in NS record? References: <3.0.5.32.19971101221516.00d177b0@haktar.siol.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id QAA15725 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tomaz Borstnar wrote: > > Hello! > > Is something like this problematic: > > dom.ain IN NS multi-ip-name-of-host > dom.ain IN NS some.remote.secondary > > where multi-ip-name-of-host has 2 IP addresses... > > Could this break anything? > > Tomaz > ---- > Tomaz Borstnar I am doing similar thing with proxy servers that share their traffic. In my ns-file I have something like server1 IN A ip.number.for.1 server2 IN A ip.number.for.2 proxy IN CNAME server1 proxy IN CNAME server2 and this works fine for me -- Þórður Ívarsson Thordur Ivarsson Rafeindavirki Electronic technician Norðurgötu 30 Nordurgotu 30 Box 309 Box 309 602 Akureyri 602 Akureyri Ísland Iceland --------------------------------------------- FreeBSD has good features, Some others are full of unwanted features! --------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 1 18:22:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA22264 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 18:22:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mail.trace.com.tw (root@mail.trace.com.tw [203.67.189.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA22244 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 18:22:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ronald@trace.com.tw) Received: from ronald.trace.com.tw (ronald@ronald.trace.com.tw [203.67.189.30]) by mail.trace.com.tw (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA08246 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 10:25:21 +0800 Message-Id: <199711020225.KAA08246@mail.trace.com.tw> From: "Ronald Wiplinger" To: "FreeBSD-isp" Date: Sun, 02 Nov 97 10:23:53 +0800 Reply-To: "Ronald Wiplinger" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Routing entry for sysconf Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk FYI: I corrected the spelling error (at 4:00 in the morning, you shouldn't counts bit together ;-) ), but the question, how to implement it into sysconf remains unchanged: I have added into my router computer running FreeBSD 3 ethernet cards and one Router card. I have problems to figure out the right way to define the subnets for the three ethernet cards in sysconfig. I want: fxp0: 203.67.189.0 netmask 255.255.255.224 (0, 1 - 30, 31 [network, usable addresses, broadcast]) (for all servers 100 MB/s) ed0: 203.67.189.32 netmask 255.255.255.224 (32, 33 - 62, 63) (for our office 10 MB/s) ed1: 203.67.189.64 netmask 255.255.255.224 (64, 65 - 94, 95) ed1: 203.67.189.96 netmask 255.255.255.224 (96, 97 - 126, 127) ed1: 203.67.189.128 netmask 255.255.255.224 (128, 129 - 158, 159) ed1: 203.67.189.160 netmask 255.255.255.224 (160, 161 - 190, 191) ed1: 203.67.189.192 netmask 255.255.255.224 (192, 193 - 222, 223) ed1: 203.67.189.224 netmask 255.255.255.224 (224, 225 - 254, 255) (for class room 10 MB/s) eth0: 192.168.19.22 192.168.19.21 netmask 255.255.255.252 to my provider eth1: 192.168.150.1 192.168.150.2 netmask 255.255.255.255 to my customer .... bye Ronald Wiplinger Gen. Manager of Wang's Trace International Co., Ltd. (Taiwan: Taipei, Touyuan, Kaohsiung) Tel: +886 2 609-0652, Handy: +886 932 251430 Fax: +886 2 600-0132 http://www.trace.com.tw From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 1 22:23:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA02908 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 22:23:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.8.15.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA02901 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 22:23:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@panda.hilink.com.au) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA23935; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 17:30:48 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 17:30:47 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Ronald Wiplinger cc: FreeBSD-isp Subject: Re: Routing entry for sysconf In-Reply-To: <199711020225.KAA08246@mail.trace.com.tw> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 2 Nov 1997, Ronald Wiplinger wrote: > I have added into my router computer running FreeBSD 3 ethernet cards and one Router card. > > ed1: 203.67.189.64 netmask 255.255.255.224 (64, 65 - 94, 95) > ed1: 203.67.189.96 netmask 255.255.255.224 (96, 97 - 126, 127) > ed1: 203.67.189.128 netmask 255.255.255.224 (128, 129 - 158, 159) > ed1: 203.67.189.160 netmask 255.255.255.224 (160, 161 - 190, 191) > ed1: 203.67.189.192 netmask 255.255.255.224 (192, 193 - 222, 223) > ed1: 203.67.189.224 netmask 255.255.255.224 (224, 225 - 254, 255) > (for class room 10 MB/s) Why so many on ed1? Is there another router which splits up the nets to the classrooms or are the classrooms just linked by hubs? Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 1 23:29:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA05569 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 23:29:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mail.trace.com.tw (root@mail.trace.com.tw [203.67.189.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA05564 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 23:29:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ronald@trace.com.tw) Received: from ronald.trace.com.tw (ronald@ronald.trace.com.tw [203.67.189.30]) by mail.trace.com.tw (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA08924; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 15:31:46 +0800 Message-Id: <199711020731.PAA08924@mail.trace.com.tw> From: "Ronald Wiplinger" To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" Cc: "FreeBSD-isp" Date: Sun, 02 Nov 97 15:30:18 +0800 Reply-To: "Ronald Wiplinger" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Routing entry for sysconf Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 2 Nov 1997 17:30:47 +1100 (EST), Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: > >On Sun, 2 Nov 1997, Ronald Wiplinger wrote: > >> I have added into my router computer running FreeBSD 3 ethernet cards and one Router card. >> > >> ed1: 203.67.189.64 netmask 255.255.255.224 (64, 65 - 94, 95) >> ed1: 203.67.189.96 netmask 255.255.255.224 (96, 97 - 126, 127) >> ed1: 203.67.189.128 netmask 255.255.255.224 (128, 129 - 158, 159) >> ed1: 203.67.189.160 netmask 255.255.255.224 (160, 161 - 190, 191) >> ed1: 203.67.189.192 netmask 255.255.255.224 (192, 193 - 222, 223) >> ed1: 203.67.189.224 netmask 255.255.255.224 (224, 225 - 254, 255) >> (for class room 10 MB/s) > >Why so many on ed1? Is there another router which splits up the nets to >the classrooms or are the classrooms just linked by hubs? No, you can put it also into one line, but finally the question remains, how to put this info into sysconfig. To split it in several lines should just emphesize, that you still cannot use, 95, 96, 127, 128, 159, 160, 191, 192, 223, 224 and 255, even you put it into one line ;-( bye Ronald Wiplinger Gen. Manager of Wang's Trace International Co., Ltd. (Taiwan: Taipei, Touyuan, Kaohsiung) Tel: +886 2 609-0652, Handy: +886 932 251430 Fax: +886 2 600-0132 http://www.trace.com.tw