From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 22 00:20:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA16424 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 00:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA16407; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 00:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.5/8.6.9) id RAA24402; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 17:17:14 +1000 Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 17:17:14 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199706220717.RAA24402@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, tweten@ns.frihet.com Subject: Re: NEC 6030X, FreeBSD 2.2.2, and the CDROM Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >the CD acts as /dev/wd0. That gives me two choices. I always leave the CD >drawer in -- and always boot from the CD, or I can boot the first time into >single user mode, change /etc/fstab to refer to /dev/wd0 instead of /dev/wd1 >and never install the CD drawer again under FreeBSD. Other strategies produce >a panic, immediately after the kernel gets through probing devices. The cause >is inability to mount the root partition (because /etc/fstab points to the >"wrong" device). The panic is before /etc/fstab is read. I think the wd drive number doesn't actually change, it just doesn't match the BIOS drive number. Try booting with 1:wd(0,a)kernel or 0:wd(1,a)kernel. Bruce From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 22 01:24:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA21611 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 01:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.frihet.com (root@frihet.bayarea.net [205.219.92.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA21603; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 01:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.frihet.com (tweten@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.frihet.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id BAA09401; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 01:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199706220823.BAA09401@ns.frihet.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0beta 12/23/96 Reply-To: "David E. Tweten" To: Bruce Evans cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NEC 6030X, FreeBSD 2.2.2, and the CDROM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 01:23:34 -0700 From: "David E. Tweten" Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Initially quoting me, Bruce Evans said: >>the CD acts as /dev/wd0. That gives me two choices. I always leave >>the CD drawer in -- and always boot from the CD, or I can boot the first >>time into single user mode, change /etc/fstab to refer to /dev/wd0 instead >>of /dev/wd1 and never install the CD drawer again under FreeBSD. Other >>strategies produce a panic, immediately after the kernel gets through >>probing devices. The cause is inability to mount the root partition >>(because /etc/fstab points to the "wrong" device). >The panic is before /etc/fstab is read. I disagree, because changing the contents of /etc/fstab (from wd1 based contents provided by the CD install to wd0 based contents) prevents the panic. >I think the wd drive number doesn't actually change, it just doesn't match >the BIOS drive number. Try booting with 1:wd(0,a)kernel or 0:wd(1,a)kernel. When I ran the install CD, it made an /etc/fstab built around wd1. I have since gone into single user mode and changed it to be built around wd0. Also, the following tests were done with the CD drawer in place. Entering "1:wd(0,a)/kernel" results in the following immediately after the last device probe: Changing root device to wd1a swapon: /dev/wd0b: Device not configured Automatic reboot in progress ... Can't open /dev/rwd0a: Device not configured /dev/rwd0a: CAN'T CHECK FILE SYSTEM. /dev/rwd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: RUN fsck MANUALLY. Automatic file system check failed ... help! Enter pathname of shell or RETURN for sh: Entering "0:wd(1,a)/kernel" results, immediately after the last device probe, in an infinite loop of: Error: D:0x81 C:0 H:0 S:0 Entering nothing results (immediately after the last device probe) in: panic: cannot mount root Syncing disks ... done Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort Thanks for taking a shot at it. Are there other ideas? -- David E. Tweten | 2047-bit PGP fingerprint: | tweten@frihet.com 12141 Atrium Drive | E9 59 E7 5C 6B 88 B8 90 | tweten@and.com Saratoga, CA 95070-3162 | 65 30 2A A4 A0 BC 49 AE | (408) 446-4131 Those who make good products sell products; those who don't, sell solutions. From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 22 01:38:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA22339 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 01:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.frihet.com (root@frihet.bayarea.net [205.219.92.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22334; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 01:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.frihet.com (tweten@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.frihet.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id BAA09467; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 01:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199706220837.BAA09467@ns.frihet.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0beta 12/23/96 Reply-To: "David E. Tweten" To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NEC 6030X, FreeBSD 2.2.2, and the CDROM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 01:37:58 -0700 From: "David E. Tweten" Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Originally, I posted my question to three lists, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG I have been informed that to do so breaches a numeric limit on cross-posts regardless of topic fit. Therefore please *do not* direct any response to my question to freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Thank you for any help you can provide. -- David E. Tweten | 2047-bit PGP fingerprint: | tweten@frihet.com 12141 Atrium Drive | E9 59 E7 5C 6B 88 B8 90 | tweten@and.com Saratoga, CA 95070-3162 | 65 30 2A A4 A0 BC 49 AE | (408) 446-4131 Those who make good products sell products; those who don't, sell solutions. From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 22 02:04:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA23321 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 02:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA23315; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 02:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.5/8.6.9) id SAA27527; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 18:58:37 +1000 Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 18:58:37 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199706220858.SAA27527@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, tweten@ns.frihet.com Subject: Re: NEC 6030X, FreeBSD 2.2.2, and the CDROM Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>The panic is before /etc/fstab is read. > >I disagree, because changing the contents of /etc/fstab (from wd1 based >contents provided by the CD install to wd0 based contents) prevents the panic. The kernel shouldn't be paniced by anything in fstab. It isn't even used until after the root file system has been used to start init. >When I ran the install CD, it made an /etc/fstab built around wd1. I have >since gone into single user mode and changed it to be built around wd0. Also, >the following tests were done with the CD drawer in place. > >Entering "1:wd(0,a)/kernel" results in the following immediately after the >last device probe: > > Changing root device to wd1a Are you sure? The kernel actually prints "changing" entirely in lower case, and entering wd(0,a) should have forced wd0a here. > swapon: /dev/wd0b: Device not configured > Automatic reboot in progress ... > Can't open /dev/rwd0a: Device not configured > /dev/rwd0a: CAN'T CHECK FILE SYSTEM. > /dev/rwd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: RUN fsck MANUALLY. THis shows that you don't really want wd0a. >Entering "0:wd(1,a)/kernel" results, immediately after the last device probe, >in an infinite loop of: > > Error: D:0x81 C:0 H:0 S:0 This message is printed by the boot loader. No device probes are possible if it occurs. Entering 0: should have forced D:0x80 or no error here. >Entering nothing results (immediately after the last device probe) in: > > panic: cannot mount root > > Syncing disks ... done > Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort This error is normal when the FreeBSD drive number passed to the kernel does not match the actual boot drive number. Perhaps you don't need to do anything special when the CD draw is in place. 0:wd(1,a)kernel might be necessary otherwise. Bruce From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 22 03:49:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA26272 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 03:49:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.frihet.com (root@frihet.bayarea.net [205.219.92.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26264; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 03:49:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.frihet.com (tweten@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.frihet.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id DAA09907; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 03:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199706221048.DAA09907@ns.frihet.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0beta 12/23/96 Reply-To: "David E. Tweten" To: Bruce Evans cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NEC 6030X, FreeBSD 2.2.2, and the CDROM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 03:48:32 -0700 From: "David E. Tweten" Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Initially quoting me, Bruce Evans said: >>... changing the contents of /etc/fstab (from wd1 based contents provided >>by the CD install to wd0 based contents) prevents the panic. >The kernel shouldn't be paniced by anything in fstab. It isn't even >used until after the root file system has been used to start init. While you didn't give me the actual answer to the problem, thank you for forcing me to investigate a different line to answer your comments. The essence of the actual problem can be seen by comparing the device probes with CD wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): wd1: 1378MB (2822400 sectors), 2800 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 0 (atapi): wd0: 1378MB (2822400 sectors), 2800 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S I was trying to solve my problem the hard way. I was accepting the disk device name change and looking for a way to cope with it. One of the many times I inserted and removed the CD drive this evening, I noticed a tiny slide switch on the back, labeled with an "S" on one side and with an unreadable smudge on the other. It was set to smudge. After switching it to "S," the device probe turned into wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 1378MB (2822400 sectors), 2800 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA27654 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 04:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.netcologne.de (ns1.netcologne.de [194.8.194.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA27391; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 04:21:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from theseus.mediaconsult.de by ns1.netcologne.de (8.6.12/NetCologne/marvin/netsafe-a0020) id ; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 12:58:25 +0200 with ESMTP X-Ncc-Regid: de.netcologne Message-ID: <33AD0A8E.ED1452A0@netcologne.de> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 13:20:46 +0200 From: Richard Cochius Reply-To: richard.cochius@netcologne.de Organization: Media Connect Cologne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b5 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FREEBSD-ADMIN@freebsd.org, FREEBSD-ANNOUNCE@freebsd.org, FREEBSD-ARCH@freebsd.org, FREEBSD-BUGS@freebsd.org, FREEBSD-CORE@freebsd.org, FREEBSD-CURRENT@freebsd.org, FREEBSD-CURRENT-DIGEST@freebsd.org, FREEBSD-STABLE@freebsd.org, FREEBSD-DOC@freebsd.org, FREEBSD-FS@freebsd.org, FREEBSD-HACKERS@freebsd.org, FREEBSD-HACKERS-DIGEST@freebsd.org, FREEBSD-HARDWARE@freebsd.org, FREEBSD-INSTALL@freebsd.org, FREEBSD-ISP@freebsd.org, FREEBSD-MULTIMEDIA@freebsd.org, FREEBSD-PLATFORMS@freebsd.org, FREEBSD-PORTS@freebsd.org, FREEBSD-QUESTIONS@freebsd.org, FREEBSD-QUESTIONS-DIGEST@freebsd.org, FREEBSD-SCSI@freebsd.org, FREEBSD-SECURITY@freebsd.org, FREEBSD-SECURITY-NOTIFICATIONS@freebsd.org, FREEBSD-USER-GROUPS@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 23 02:56:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA25664 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 02:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soul.irex.urc.ac.ru (soul.irex.urc.ac.ru [193.233.85.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA25448 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 02:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soul.irex.urc.ac.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by soul.irex.urc.ac.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA07408 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 15:53:24 GMT Message-ID: <33AE9BF2.446B9B3D@urc.ac.ru> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 15:53:22 +0000 From: Anton Voronin Organization: URC FREEnet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe -- ====================================================================== Anton Voronin http://www.urc.ac.ru/~anton/ Ural Regional Center of FREEnet; Technical University of Chelyabinsk Phone: +7 (3512) 65-49-92 (office) E-mail: anton@urc.ac.ru ====================================================================== From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 23 09:07:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA10931 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 09:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Pooh.cps.com (Pooh.CPS.com [139.146.42.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA10914; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 09:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rhg@localhost) by Pooh.cps.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA16463; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:05:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199706231605.LAA16463@Pooh.cps.com> Subject: Re: NEC 6030X, FreeBSD 2.2.2, and the CDROM To: tweten@frihet.com Date: Mon, 23 Jun 97 11:05:00 CDT From: "Richard H. Gumpertz" Cc: bde@zeta.org.au, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199706221048.DAA09907@ns.frihet.com>; from "David E. Tweten" at Jun 22, 97 3:48 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL6] Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I was trying to solve my problem the hard way. I was accepting the disk > device name change and looking for a way to cope with it. One of the many > times I inserted and removed the CD drive this evening, I noticed a tiny slide > switch on the back, labeled with an "S" on one side and with an unreadable > smudge on the other. It was set to smudge. After switching it to "S," the > device probe turned into > > wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa > wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): > wd0: 1378MB (2822400 sectors), 2800 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): wcd0: 1033Kb/sec, 128Kb cache, audio play, 255 volume levels, ejectable tray > > Problem solved. Thank you for inspiring me. Sometimes all one needs is to > talk (or type) about it. In other words, smudge probably said something like M (for master) and you needed S (for slave). The CD was responding to the same commands as the HD... -- ============================================================================= |Richard H. Gumpertz rhg@CPS.COM VOICE: (913) 642-1777 FAX: (913) 642-8777| |Computer Problem Solving 4518 W 89th St, Ste 220, Prairie Vlg KS 66207-2293| ============================================================================= From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 23 11:48:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA21671 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ttfn.com ([38.234.74.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21664; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nomad.geoplex.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ttfn.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA05976; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:46:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: "Dave Truesdell" To: "David E. Tweten" , tweten@nas.nasa.gov Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: davet@geoplex.com Subject: Re: NEC 6030X, FreeBSD 2.2.2, and the CDROM In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 21 Jun 1997 14:30:30 PDT." <199706212130.OAA08118@ns.frihet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----- =_aaaaaaaaaa0" Content-ID: <5970.867091557.0@nomad.geoplex.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:45:58 -0700 Message-ID: <5973.867091558@nomad.geoplex.com> Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <5970.867091557.1@nomad.geoplex.com> Content-MD5: QlMqUnTFXZnaDj8ymiEdag== Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dave, Is the switch on the CDROM drive (on the back, above the connecter) set to= = "Master" or "Slave"? The one on mine is set to "Slave" and I have had no = problems. ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from gw.ttfn.com (ttfn.com [204.182.16.254]) by rgate.metricom.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA13836 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 18:03:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pooh.ttfn.com (pooh.ttfn.com [192.168.0.34]) by gw.ttfn.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA16827 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 17:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from davet@localhost) by pooh.ttfn.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) id QAA11922 for davet@ricochet.net; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 16:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.ttfn.com (gw.ttfn.com [192.168.0.33]) by pooh.ttfn.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA11917 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 16:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smyrno.sol.net (smyrno.sol.net [206.55.64.117]) by gw.ttfn.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA16714 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 15:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) by smyrno.sol.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA05994; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 17:16:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA20433; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 14:31:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA20411 for mobile-outgoing; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 14:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.frihet.com (root@frihet.bayarea.net [205.219.92.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20381; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 14:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.frihet.com (tweten@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.frihet.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA08118; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 14:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: davet@pooh.ttfn.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 16:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <199706212303.QAA11922@pooh.ttfn.com> Resent-To: davet@ricochet.net Message-Id: <199706212130.OAA08118@ns.frihet.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0beta 12/23/96 Reply-To: "David E. Tweten" To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: NEC 6030X, FreeBSD 2.2.2, and the CDROM Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 14:30:30 -0700 From: "David E. Tweten" Prev-Sender: owner-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-UIDL: 412220a28c1fe1718a4f63bdd879bf2d X-Filter: mailagent [version 3.0 PL53] for davet@ttfn.com I have a small problem after a generally uneventful FreeBSD 2.2.2 installation on my NEC 6030X. The CD arrived in the mail yesterday, so last night, the project began. NEC's Versa series, one of which is the 6030X, has a little drawer in the front of the laptop, into which you can insert a floppy drive or a CD drive or a carriage to hold a second hard disk (the internal one is modular and easily removable), or a second battery. With the CD drawer installed, the FreeBSD 2.2.2 install disk booted perfectly. Installation onto my dedicated (ie, no fdisk table) FreeBSD disk went very smoothly. I bought a second hard disk to avoid NEC's unenlightened attitudes toward Windows95 sharing space with another OS (as documented previously on these lists). Besides, I think I can find a way productively to use 1.4 gig just for FreeBSD and XFree86. So why do I write? A possible reason the CD booted so cooperatively is it seems installation of the CD causes the hard disk to become /dev/wd1, while the CD acts as /dev/wd0. That gives me two choices. I always leave the CD drawer in -- and always boot from the CD, or I can boot the first time into single user mode, change /etc/fstab to refer to /dev/wd0 instead of /dev/wd1 and never install the CD drawer again under FreeBSD. Other strategies produce a panic, immediately after the kernel gets through probing devices. The cause is inability to mount the root partition (because /etc/fstab points to the "wrong" device). For the moment, I haven't been able to come up with a good idea of how best to detect the CD drawer in /etc/rc before it gets to "swapon -a." If I could, that would let me use one version of /etc/fstab with the CD drawer and another without. Changing drawers will always require a reboot; a small label on the bottom of the machine says that power must be off to change "Versa Bay" devices. Anybody have any good ideas? -- David E. Tweten | 2047-bit PGP fingerprint: | tweten@frihet.com 12141 Atrium Drive | E9 59 E7 5C 6B 88 B8 90 | tweten@and.com Saratoga, CA 95070-3162 | 65 30 2A A4 A0 BC 49 AE | (408) 446-4131 Those who make good products sell products; those who don't, sell solutions. ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <5970.867091557.3@nomad.geoplex.com> Content-MD5: iLZ2WltyIsLHPY+3HL+eTg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -- = T.T.F.N., Dave Truesdell ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0-- From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 24 20:15:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA26415 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 20:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tor-adm1.nbc.netcom.ca (taob@tor-adm1.nbc.netcom.ca [207.181.89.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA26410; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 20:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (taob@localhost) by tor-adm1.nbc.netcom.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA13641; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 23:14:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 23:14:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Tao To: Bruce Evans cc: bde@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@time.cdrom.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "Can't find file boot.config ... Can't find file boot.help" In-Reply-To: <199706120905.TAA28979@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 12 Jun 1997, Bruce Evans wrote: > > No. The files aren't really optional. My 3.0-{May|June}-SNAP systems seem to boot fine without either... -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@netcom.ca) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 26 16:22:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA18770 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 16:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uk1.imdb.com (UK1.IMDb.COM [192.68.174.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA18763 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 16:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from robh.imdb.com [194.222.68.23] by uk1.imdb.com with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0whNm3-0004pQ-00; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 00:16:24 +0100 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 12:15:21 +0100 (BST) From: Rob Hartill X-Sender: robh@localhost To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: ipfw, mtu and fragments Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, With ipfw running, we've had reports from users having no success accessing our www servers - they can't connect at all. One user talked to his ISP and they traced it to a 'MTU' setting problem. A friend thinks this is a problem with incorrect MTUs resulting in fragmented packets. Are we on the right track ? Anoyone have experience of this problem ? Would adding the 2nd 'ipfw' config below help ? .. /sbin/ipfw add pass tcp from any to ${ip} 80 setup /sbin/ipfw add pass tcp from any to ${ip} 80 frag thanks in advance, rob -- Rob Hartill Internet Movie Database (Ltd) http://www.moviedatabase.com/ .. a site for sore eyes. From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 27 03:11:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA14857 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 03:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from intertrader.com ([195.89.144.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA14850 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 03:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from butterfly.intertrader.com(really [195.89.144.135]) by intertrader.com via smail with smtp id for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 11:19:43 +0100 (BST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built 1997-Mar-5) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19970627111202.006f35d4@mail> X-Sender: rachel@mail X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 11:12:02 +0100 To: stable@freebsd.org From: Rachel Willmer Subject: I've just upgraded to 2-2-STABLE... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk And I'm seeing some funnies... I upgraded from a previous version of 2.2 by using CVSUP. I then went into /usr/src and did a make world Then did a "config machine", and remade the kernel. All just fine and dandy, and it seems to be working (at least it's still running mail and news, which is its prime function). But when a mail client logs into the pop server, I get one of these messages on the console... Jun 27 11:13:30 tadpole inetd[3005]: login_getclass: unknown class 'root' And I log in as root, the console gets one of these... Warning: imported path contains relative components Neither of which have I seen before. Can anyone shed any light on these? Thanks Rachel -- Rachel Willmer Intertrader Ltd 4 John's Place Tel: +44 131 475 7108 Edinburgh EH6 7EL Fax: +44 131 475 7109 Authors of "Digital Money Online" (TM) From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 27 03:42:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA15726 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 03:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sand.sentex.ca (sand.sentex.ca [206.222.77.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15721 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 03:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gravel (gravel.sentex.ca [205.211.165.210]) by sand.sentex.ca (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id GAA01883; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 06:46:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19970627064305.00b957e0@sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 06:43:05 -0400 To: Rachel Willmer , stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: I've just upgraded to 2-2-STABLE...(login.conf) In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19970627111202.006f35d4@mail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 11:12 AM 6/27/97 +0100, Rachel Willmer wrote: >And I'm seeing some funnies... > >But when a mail client logs into the pop server, I get one of these >messages on the console... > > Jun 27 11:13:30 tadpole inetd[3005]: login_getclass: unknown class 'root' You need to place a copy of login.conf in /etc... Have a look at the file /usr/src/etc/login.conf and place it in /etc >And I log in as root, the console gets one of these... > > Warning: imported path contains relative components Sounds like you have . in your path... ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa (mike@sentex.net) * To do is to be -- Nietzsche Sentex Communications Corp, * To be is to do -- Sartre Cambridge, Ontario * Do be do be do -- Sinatra (http://www.sentex.net/~mdtancsa) * From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 27 04:04:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA16314 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 04:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from korky.fe.up.pt (korky.fe.up.pt [192.82.214.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA16308 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 04:04:37 -0700 (PDT) From: ee96199@tom.fe.up.pt Received: by korky.fe.up.pt; id AA29829; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:05:31 GMT Received: from localhost by tom.fe.up.pt; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/16Oct95-1216PM) id AA11861; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:07:10 GMT Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:07:09 +0000 (GMT) To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: 2.1-STABLE? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just want to ask until when will the 2.1 branch be kept alive, i.e., security patches and bug corrections. BTW, if Jordan is listenning, what branch is ftp.cdrom.com running? Assuming 2.1-STABLE I would suppose that 2.1-STABLE will continue for much time. Thanks in advance. Jorge -- CVSup has the greatest invention since swap space. :-) From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 27 04:13:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA16711 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 04:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from coconut.blueberry.co.uk ([194.70.52.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16705 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 04:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by coconut.blueberry.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA11822; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:11:43 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19970627121142.09989@blueberry.co.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:11:42 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Rachel Willmer Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I've just upgraded to 2-2-STABLE... References: <3.0.2.32.19970627111202.006f35d4@mail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69e In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19970627111202.006f35d4@mail>; from Rachel Willmer on Fri, Jun 27, 1997 at 11:12:02AM +0100 Organization: Blueberry New Media Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, Jun 27, 1997 at 11:12:02AM +0100, Rachel Willmer wrote: > I upgraded from a previous version of 2.2 by using CVSUP. > I then went into /usr/src and did a make world > Then did a "config machine", and remade the kernel. > > All just fine and dandy, and it seems to be working (at least it's still > running mail and news, which is its prime function). You haven't finished upgrading your system. Please read http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/upgrade/upgrade.html which goes into some detail about how to succesfully upgrade your system in this way. If you do use this guide, I'd be grateful for any comments you may have, so I can incorporate them in the next revisions. N -- --+=[ Blueberry Hill Blueberry New Media ]=+-- --+=[ http://www.blueberry.co.uk/ 1/9 Chelsea Harbour Design Centre, ]=+-- --+=[ WebMaster@blueberry.co.uk London, England, SW10 0XE ]=+-- --+=[ Contributing to the heat death of the Universe since 1973 ]=+-- From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 27 04:27:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA17081 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 04:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA17076 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 04:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA15507; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 04:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199706271127.EAA15507@implode.root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: ee96199@tom.fe.up.pt cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.1-STABLE? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:07:09 -0000." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 04:27:55 -0700 Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >BTW, if Jordan is listenning, what branch is ftp.cdrom.com running? >Assuming 2.1-STABLE I would suppose that 2.1-STABLE will continue >for much time. I'm not Jordan, but I am responsible for wcarchive... wcarchive is running 2.2-stable. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 27 04:34:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA17325 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 04:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from korky.fe.up.pt (korky.fe.up.pt [192.82.214.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA17319 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 04:34:05 -0700 (PDT) From: ee96199@tom.fe.up.pt Received: by korky.fe.up.pt; id AA29857; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:34:33 GMT Received: from localhost by tom.fe.up.pt; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/16Oct95-1216PM) id AA12348; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:36:12 GMT Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:36:12 +0000 (GMT) To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: XFree86 3.3 w/ 2.1-STABLE Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Should I use the 2.1.7 binaries? Thanks -- CVSup has the greatest invention since swap space. :-) From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 27 09:10:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29221 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 09:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29190 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 09:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA13259; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 09:10:12 -0700 (PDT) To: ee96199@tom.fe.up.pt cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.1-STABLE? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:07:09 -0000." Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 09:10:12 -0700 Message-ID: <13255.867427812@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I just want to ask until when will the 2.1 branch be kept alive, i.e., > security patches and bug corrections. It's basically alive now, just moving very slowly and cautiously. A commit into the 2.1-stable branch happens about every other week or so. > BTW, if Jordan is listenning, what branch is ftp.cdrom.com running? 2.2. Jordan From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 27 12:13:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA08852 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cray.svaar.no (root@cray.svaar.no [194.19.7.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08818 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from peter@localhost) by cray.svaar.no (8.8.5/8.7.3) id VAA25646; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 21:13:00 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 21:13:00 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199706271913.VAA25646@cray.svaar.no> From: Peter Svaar To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: upgrading /etc Sender: owner-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've had FreeBSD running since 2.1.5 and I have regularly CVSup'ed my way to a recent 2.2-STABLE which I am running now. The problem is that the /etc/ files have not been changed on the way, and, well, it works as it is but I *should* have upgraded /etc to 2.2 as well. How can I do this? Thanx -- - peter svaar - phone 22 69 59 94 - URL: http://www.svaar.no/ - - peter@svaar.no - pager 96 76 83 83 - hackers do it with fewer instructions - From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 27 13:38:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA14020 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14010 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:38:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.uniserve.com (tom@shell.uniserve.com [204.244.210.252]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01618 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tom@localhost) by shell.uniserve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA08863; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:32:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell.uniserve.com: tom owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:32:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom To: Peter Svaar cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: upgrading /etc In-Reply-To: <199706271913.VAA25646@cray.svaar.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 27 Jun 1997, Peter Svaar wrote: > > Hi, > > I've had FreeBSD running since 2.1.5 and I have regularly CVSup'ed my way to > a recent 2.2-STABLE which I am running now. > > The problem is that the /etc/ files have not been changed on the way, and, > well, it works as it is but I *should* have upgraded /etc to 2.2 as well. > How can I do this? > > Thanx > > -- > - peter svaar - phone 22 69 59 94 - URL: http://www.svaar.no/ - > - peter@svaar.no - pager 96 76 83 83 - hackers do it with fewer instructions - > While people on the lists make a big deal about upgrading /etc, it seems like a lot of punishment for nothing. 2.2 will happily boot with /etc/ from 2.1. Some features may not be accessible, but if your previous system was working well, who cares? Tom