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Date:      Sun, 19 Apr 1998 07:34:44 +0200 (MET DST)
From:      Luigi Rizzo <luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>
To:        abial@nask.pl (Andrzej Bialecki)
Cc:        freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: There was PicoBSD - let there be a Mini...
Message-ID:  <199804190534.HAA11628@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.3.95.980418232450.24028A-100000@korin.warman.org.pl> from "Andrzej Bialecki" at Apr 18, 98 11:27:35 pm

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> > you'd need this much space just for the swapfile.
> 
> As I said: it depends. E.g. PicoBSD doesn't use swap at all... So perhaps,
> in case of X's, 8MB would be for swap and 16MB for the binaries.

not so easy.

picobsd is for the expert, and you don't run programs requiring a lot
of memory on it.

but if you want to build something like minibsd
for demo purposes, it must not crash as soon as you start netscape or
some other big memory consumer.

My experience on a diskless machine is that 32MB of ram are enough to
run the standard X environment, but the system starts touching the swap
as soon as you run netscape 3 (it takes about 6MB here; netscape4 takes
over 10, and i have the impression that at some early stage it forks,
so for a while you have two 10MB processes.How much of this is actually
duplicated I have no idea).

> Yes, this way you could have even quite normal FreeBSD installation... but
> you need to keep the right CD in drive all the time.

it's a demo after all. E.g. I'd use it to carry around freebsd. A
floppy with all my customized files, and a CD with an image of the
system (binaries etc.)

	cheers
	luigi
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