From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 28 9:13:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48BD414CAA; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:13:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sheldonh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id JAA54016; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:12:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:12:52 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199903281712.JAA54016@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sanpei@sanpei.org, sheldonh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10708 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: meteor.4 man page documentation problem. State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: sheldonh State-Changed-When: Sun Mar 28 09:12:25 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Diff applies cleanly to CURRENT. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 28 9:57:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0337D156EA; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:57:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sheldonh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id JAA56447; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:57:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:57:02 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199903281757.JAA56447@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sheldonh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nsouch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10737 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: a broken figure in lpbb.4 (PS) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nsouch Responsible-Changed-By: sheldonh Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Mar 28 09:56:02 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: His manpage. :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 28 10: 2:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB6E156E3; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 10:02:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sheldonh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id KAA57157; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 10:01:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 10:01:55 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199903281801.KAA57157@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sheldonh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, kjc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10738 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: misprint of manual 'natm(4)' Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->kjc Responsible-Changed-By: sheldonh Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Mar 28 10:01:05 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: The man who brought the manpage in. :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 28 12:50:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7548714D27 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 12:50:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id MAA65239; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 12:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail5.svr.pol.co.uk (mail5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C08015372 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 12:41:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rsm@acm.org) Received: from modem-81.cerium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.28.209] helo=valis.goatsucker.org) by mail5.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10RMMX-0005LY-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:40:54 +0100 Received: (from scott@localhost) by valis.goatsucker.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id SAA00372; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 18:57:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott) Message-Id: <199903281757.SAA00372@valis.goatsucker.org> Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 18:57:55 +0100 (BST) From: scott@freebsd-uk.eu.org Reply-To: scott@freebsd-uk.eu.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/10840: [PATCH] Add pcic double-loading bug fix to ERRATA.TXT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 10840 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] Add pcic double-loading bug fix to ERRATA.TXT >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Mar 28 12:50:00 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Scott Mitchell >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Queen Mary and Westfield College >Environment: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE with PCCARD support >Description: The /etc/rc.pccard script on 3.1-RELEASE does not check whether PCCARD support has already been loaded when loading the pcic kernel module. If PCCARD support was also statically linked into the kernel, the pcic code is loaded twice. This leads to erratic and downright nasty behaviour from the PCCARD code. People are complaining about this on a daily basis to the -mobile and -questions mailing lists -- a description of the problem and a simple workaround should be in the ERRATA.TXT file. >How-To-Repeat: Watch -mobile or -questions for the next person getting bitten by this problem :) >Fix: Add something like the following to ERRATA.TXT: o You've recompiled your kernel to include PCCARD support, and set pccard_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf (just as you did for previous releases). Now your PCCARDs don't work: the kernel messages indicate that you have two card controllers, cards are not recognised when they are inserted, etc. Fix: The 'pcic' (card slot controller) code is getting loaded twice; the two copies are conflicting with each other and causing the symptoms described above. The fix is to _not_ enable the pcic devices in your kernel config file, ie. # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support controller card0 #device pcic0 at card? #device pcic1 at card? Leave the pccard_enable="YES" line in /etc/rc.conf -- the etc/rc.pccard script does more than just load the driver so it still needs to be run. I believe that /etc/rc.pccard has been modified to detect this condition and work around it in 3.1-STABLE. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 28 14:40:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25861545D for ; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 14:40:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA71405; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 14:40:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ma3.seikyou.ne.jp (ma3.seikyou.ne.jp [202.211.152.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E830914C29 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 14:31:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hiloshi@seikyou.ne.jp) Received: from hiloshi.seikyou.ne.jp (kyoto-492.seikyou.ne.jp [202.211.148.47]) by ma3.seikyou.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.7WNSK99010601) with ESMTP id HAA29999; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 07:31:02 +0900 Received: (from hiloshi@localhost) by hiloshi.seikyou.ne.jp (8.8.5/3.5Wpl7) id HAA00758; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 07:30:57 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199903282230.HAA00758@hiloshi.seikyou.ne.jp> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 07:30:57 +0900 (JST) From: Kaneda Hiloshi To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: vanitas@ma3.seikyou.ne.jp X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/10841: [send-pr]: typos in man page screen.4 (c -> n) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 10841 >Category: docs >Synopsis: typos in man page screen.4 (c -> n) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Mar 28 14:40:00 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kanenda >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: FreeBSD jp-man project >Environment: $Id: screen.4,v 1.10 1998/06/08 06:11:59 jkoshy Exp $ http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/screen.4?rev=1.10 >Description: The man page screen.4 has descriptions such as: E[=cF set normal foreground color to n at line 140-149. ``E[=cF'' should be ``E[=nF'' (c -> n). >How-To-Repeat: man 4 screen >Fix: Apply this patch: --- screen.4.orig Mon Mar 29 07:05:29 1999 +++ screen.4 Mon Mar 29 07:25:39 1999 @@ -137,16 +137,16 @@ -- E[=nA Set the border color to color n (see table) (if supported by HW) --- E[=cF set normal foreground color to n -- +-- E[=nF set normal foreground color to n -- (see table) --- E[=cG set normal background color to n -- +-- E[=nG set normal background color to n -- (see table) --- E[=cH set reverse foreground color to n -- +-- E[=nH set reverse foreground color to n -- (see table) --- E[=cI set reverse background color to n -- +-- E[=nI set reverse background color to n -- (see table) n= 0 black n= 8 grey >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 28 15:20:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D886A152D9 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 15:20:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id PAA72756; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 15:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2086915351 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 15:15:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id BAA19356 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 01:15:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id AAA01465; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 00:55:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-Id: <199903282255.AAA01465@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 00:55:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Wolfram Schneider Reply-To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/10843: Request to be added to the Consulting list. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 10843 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Request to be added to the Consulting list. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Mar 28 15:20:01 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Wolfram Schneider >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 16:21:54 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199903222321.QAA09393@calypso.boulderlabs.com> To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Request to be added to the Consulting list. Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG To whom it may concern, Our company builds FreeBSD products and provides consulting services. Could we be added to the list? Thanks -bob gray ---------------------------------------------------------

  • Boulder Labs (Colorado) is a software consulting company specializing in FreeBSD, embedded systems, digital processing, security and system administration. We have build products requiring numerous device drivers, disk optimization up through elaborate GUIs and specialized applications. Bi-monthly we publish Source Code Unix articles in ";login:" magazine and on our web server. Please contact us at +1.303.530.2056 or info@boulderlabs.com >Description: >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 28 20:20:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FEA1540A for ; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 20:20:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id UAA32871; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 20:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 45A1014E62; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 20:14:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <19990329041447.45A1014E62@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 20:14:47 -0800 (PST) From: mihara@prd.fc.nec.co.jp To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/10847: lpbb.4's PostScript output format is broken. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 10847 >Category: docs >Synopsis: lpbb.4's PostScript output format is broken. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Mar 28 20:20:00 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Osamu Mihara >Release: 3.1-STABLE >Organization: NEC Corporation >Environment: FreeBSD oz.prd.fc.nec.co.jp 3.1-STABLE FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE #1: Wed Mar 10 13:06:4 6 JST 1999 root@oz.prd.fc.nec.co.jp:/var/src/sys/compile/OZ i386 >Description: When formatting the lpbb.4 man page with "groff -mandoc" as a PostScript file, the format of a figure in the man page is broken. >How-To-Repeat: % groff -mandoc lpbb.4 > lpbb.4.ps % ghostview lpbb.4.ps >Fix: Enclosing the source of the figure with ".Bd literal" and ".Ed" fixes this problem. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 28 23:39:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from thrush.omix.com (thrush.omix.com [206.40.77.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57671524E for ; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 23:39:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from byron@thrush.omix.com) Received: (from byron@localhost) by thrush.omix.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id XAA10431; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 23:39:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from byron) Message-Id: <199903290739.XAA10431@thrush.omix.com> Subject: Re: Creating CDs for installation. In-Reply-To: <36FCF05A.FD693CEA@home.com> from Gary Bouskill at "Mar 27, 1999 8:51: 7 am" To: gbouskill@home.com (Gary Bouskill) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 23:39:49 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: byron@omix.com (Byron Brummer) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gary Bouskill wrote: > I have been downloading all the files to install FreeBSD and I want to > create CDs that I can install from because the files take up so much space > on my hard drive. > > I would like to see a section in the documentation that suggests which > directories to put on different CDs. If this would be possible it would > be of a real help to those of us with writ able CDROMs. Have you viewed the LAYOUT.TXT file found at the root of the release trees? It might help greatly in deciding what directories you should grab for your use. -- -Zenin (zenin@archive.rhps.org) Yah, Emacs is a good OS, but I prefer FreeBSD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 29 0:40:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4C11581E for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 00:40:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id AAA36811; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 00:40:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from zorch.sf-bay.org (zorch.sf-bay.org [192.150.103.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F02D14E47 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 00:33:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scott@zorch.sf-bay.org) Received: from zorch.sf-bay.org (uucp@localhost) by zorch.sf-bay.org (8.8.8/8.8.2) with UUCP id AAA24185 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 00:33:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scott@localhost) by zork.sf-bay.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06950; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:31:46 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from scott) Message-Id: <199903290831.QAA06950@zork.sf-bay.org> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:31:46 +0800 (CST) From: Scott Hazen Mueller Reply-To: scott@zorch.sf-bay.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/10850: submitting a documentation change for sed(1) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 10850 >Category: docs >Synopsis: submitting a documentation change for sed(1) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Mar 29 00:40:00 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Scott Hazen Mueller >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: I found the following (from sed(1)) unclear: A command line with two addresses selects the inclusive range from the first pattern space that matches the first address through the next pat- tern space that matches the second. (If the second address is a number less than or equal to the line number first selected, only that line is selected.) Starting at the first line following the selected range, sed starts looking again for the first address. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Suggested re-phrasing: A command line with two addresses selects an inclusive range. This range starts with the first pattern space that matches the first address. The end of the range is the next following pattern space that matches the second address. If the second address is a number less than or equal to the line number first selected, only that line is selected. In the case when the second address is a context address, sed does not re-match the second address against the pattern space that matched the first address. Starting at the first line following the selected range, sed starts looking again for the first address. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 29 1:58:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from firewall2.lehman.com (firewall.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055FA14E6C; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 01:58:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall2.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id EAA06431; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 04:58:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA02039; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 04:57:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by lonmailhost.lehman.com (SMI-8.6/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id KAA14263; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 10:57:41 +0100 Message-ID: <19990329105741.L23968@lehman.com> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 10:57:41 +0100 From: nclayton@lehman.com To: Kris Kennaway , Nik Clayton Cc: current@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook DocBook cutover complete References: <19990327162554.K3136@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Kris Kennaway on Sun, Mar 28, 1999 at 04:40:22PM +0930 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Kris, On Sun, Mar 28, 1999 at 04:40:22PM +0930, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sat, 27 Mar 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > > Almost a year ago I started the project to switch the Handbook over > > from LinuxDoc to DocBook. > > Can I ask what the differences and benefits are? As follows; * LinuxDoc is descended from the QWERTZ DTD, and was designed to serve the needs of the Linux Documentation Project. DocBook has been designed to mark up technical books and articles, and has been designed by representatives from a large number of companies (this, for once, has not been a bad thing). It's large, comprehensive, and well supported. * LinuxDoc is designed to be quite close to LaTeX. This means there's a lot of presentational markup (i.e., markup that describes things as being bold, or italic, and so on), a lot like HTML. DocBook contains *no* presentational markup, it's entirely semantic. To write a filename in LinuxDoc you would write /path/to/some/file where "" means "teletype", i.e., a monospaced font. If you wanted to write a command the user types in, you would use the same thing, ls /etc In DocBook, you would write /path/to/some/file ls /etc When processed, both those might be displayed in a monospaced font. However, the DocBook version includes extra information. We don't do it yet, but the DocBook Handbook will eventually include several indices. One of these will be a list of each page where each filename is mentioned, allowing you to quickly see all the places where (for example) ppp.conf is referred to. This index would catch every reference to ppp.conf used as a filename, but would ignore those where it was mentioned as part of a command. So "ppp.conf" would be indexed, but "vi ppp.conf" wouldn't. The only way to do this using LinuxDoc would be to index everywhere 'ppp.conf' appeared, which would *also* catch the second example, which is not what you want. * DocBook is extensible. It's relatively easy to add your own elements, for things that are missing from DocBook. I've done this for the Handbook, adding things like "" and "". This is harder to with LinuxDoc. * The Linux Documentation Project is moving away from LinuxDoc to DocBook. I *think* the FreeBSD Doc. Proj. switched first, and I'm pretty certain the FreeBSD Handbook is the largest free set of documentation that currently uses DocBook. I could be wrong about that though. * There's an XML implementation of DocBook (currently unofficial). This will be more important in the future, as XML browsers become more widespread. * Tools to convert DocBook to other formats are not quite as advanced as the LinuxDoc tools, but are getting their rapidly. As it currently stands in the repository, the DocBook Handbook can be converted to HTML, Postscript, plain text, and Microsoft RTF. A bug that I'll fix this week is currently preventing PDF generation. Word .doc support is in the pipeline as well, probably for the end of this week too (I've now given some money to the evil empire so I can test the output myself). Next on the list will be whatever internal format the Palm Pilot uses. I imagine this won't be too useful for the Handbook, but will probably be quite handy for the FAQ. . . More information at http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/primer/index.html N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 29 3: 2:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6384D158D9; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 03:02:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA86805; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 06:01:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 06:01:45 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: nclayton@lehman.com Cc: Kris Kennaway , Nik Clayton , current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook DocBook cutover complete In-Reply-To: <19990329105741.L23968@lehman.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 29 Mar 1999 nclayton@lehman.com wrote: > Kris, > > On Sun, Mar 28, 1999 at 04:40:22PM +0930, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Sat, 27 Mar 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > > > Almost a year ago I started the project to switch the Handbook over > > > from LinuxDoc to DocBook. > > > > Can I ask what the differences and benefits are? > > As it currently stands in the repository, the DocBook Handbook can be > converted to HTML, Postscript, plain text, and Microsoft RTF. A bug > that I'll fix this week is currently preventing PDF generation. > > Word .doc support is in the pipeline as well, probably for the end of > this week too (I've now given some money to the evil empire so I can > test the output myself). Why? We can use StarOffice 5.0x, after all. > > Next on the list will be whatever internal format the Palm Pilot uses. > I imagine this won't be too useful for the Handbook, but will probably > be quite handy for the FAQ. . . Do you mean the Memo format or the Doc format? I hope you mean Doc... It might not even be worth it to do this, since a very nice, fast browser (Palmscape) has been around for a while on the Palm, and an offline browser called Plucker. > > More information at > > http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/primer/index.html > > N > -- > --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- > --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- > --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ | _ \__ \ |) | http://www.freebsd.org _ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 29 3:23:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from firewall2.lehman.com (firewall.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4E415431; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 03:23:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall2.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id GAA24861; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 06:22:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA17941; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 06:22:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by lonmailhost.lehman.com (SMI-8.6/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id MAA20182; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 12:22:23 +0100 Message-ID: <19990329122223.D14492@lehman.com> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 12:22:23 +0100 From: nclayton@lehman.com To: Brian Feldman Cc: Kris Kennaway , Nik Clayton , current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook DocBook cutover complete References: <19990329105741.L23968@lehman.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Brian Feldman on Mon, Mar 29, 1999 at 06:01:45AM -0500 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 29, 1999 at 06:01:45AM -0500, Brian Feldman wrote: > > Word .doc support is in the pipeline as well, probably for the end of > > this week too (I've now given some money to the evil empire so I can > > test the output myself). > > Why? We can use StarOffice 5.0x, after all. * Not if you're on a 2.2-stable system. Don't mock, because I still am, until I find the time to upgrade. At least, I could never get it to work solidly for any length of time. I know there have been updates, but there's only so many times I'm prepared to download it. * People who haven't yet switched to using FreeBSD can get a reasonably good printed copy of the documentation (at the moment just the Handbook, but eventually all the docs) on a Windows platform. * My accountant likes various bits and pieces to be entered in to their home grown Access DB. So I needed to get hold of Office anyway (and as an aside, the ODBC driver for Postgres works very nicely). > > Next on the list will be whatever internal format the Palm Pilot uses. > > I imagine this won't be too useful for the Handbook, but will probably > > be quite handy for the FAQ. . . > > Do you mean the Memo format or the Doc format? I hope you mean Doc... It > might not even be worth it to do this, since a very nice, fast browser > (Palmscape) has been around for a while on the Palm, and an offline browser > called Plucker. I don't know yet, I need to get a Pilot :-) I'm open to recommendations, and/or pointers to specifications for the format. And if there are any programmers out there looking for something to do, this could be quite a nice task. N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 29 3:35: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7618D15524; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 03:34:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA87088; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 06:34:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 06:34:27 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: nclayton@lehman.com Cc: Kris Kennaway , Nik Clayton , current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook DocBook cutover complete In-Reply-To: <19990329122223.D14492@lehman.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 29 Mar 1999 nclayton@lehman.com wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 1999 at 06:01:45AM -0500, Brian Feldman wrote: > > > Word .doc support is in the pipeline as well, probably for the end of > > > this week too (I've now given some money to the evil empire so I can > > > test the output myself). > > > > Why? We can use StarOffice 5.0x, after all. > > * Not if you're on a 2.2-stable system. Don't mock, because I still am, > until I find the time to upgrade. At least, I could never get it to work > solidly for any length of time. I know there have been updates, but > there's only so many times I'm prepared to download it. I meant use StarOffice to test out the Office .docs. > > * People who haven't yet switched to using FreeBSD can get a reasonably > good printed copy of the documentation (at the moment just the Handbook, > but eventually all the docs) on a Windows platform. > > * My accountant likes various bits and pieces to be entered in to their > home grown Access DB. So I needed to get hold of Office anyway (and as > an aside, the ODBC driver for Postgres works very nicely). > > > > Next on the list will be whatever internal format the Palm Pilot uses. > > > I imagine this won't be too useful for the Handbook, but will probably > > > be quite handy for the FAQ. . . > > > > Do you mean the Memo format or the Doc format? I hope you mean Doc... It > > might not even be worth it to do this, since a very nice, fast browser > > (Palmscape) has been around for a while on the Palm, and an offline browser > > called Plucker. > > I don't know yet, I need to get a Pilot :-) I'm open to recommendations, > and/or pointers to specifications for the format. Doc is a nice format, but it's not hypertext. Check out ports/palm/pilot_makedoc > > And if there are any programmers out there looking for something to do, > this could be quite a nice task. > > N > -- > --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- > --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- > --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ | _ \__ \ |) | http://www.freebsd.org _ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 29 9:19:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from kiwi.hefty.org (kiwi.hefty.org [209.119.145.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF0414FA0 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 09:19:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ayan@kiwi.hefty.org) Received: (from ayan@localhost) by kiwi.hefty.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id MAA77303 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 12:18:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ayan) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 12:18:43 -0500 (EST) From: Ayan George Message-Id: <199903291718.MAA77303@kiwi.hefty.org> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(5) 10/07/98) To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Learning SGML Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org All, Can anyone suggest a good SGML book for use with the SGML tools available for FreeBSD? -Ayan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 29 14:37: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A36915791; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 14:37:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sheldonh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA66896; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 14:36:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 14:36:51 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199903292236.OAA66896@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sdn@slip.net, sheldonh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10345 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Where is documentation on creating a one- or two- floppy bootable system State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: sheldonh State-Changed-When: Mon Mar 29 14:35:20 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: This is a question, not a bug report. See Section 13 of the FAQ, then try the freebsd-questions mailing list if you're still stuck. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 29 20:43:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from detlev.UUCP (57-sweet.camalott.com [208.239.153.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA041508A for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:43:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joelh@gnu.org) Received: (from joelh@localhost) by detlev.UUCP (8.9.3/8.9.1) id WAA00545; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 22:42:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from joelh) To: nclayton@lehman.com Cc: Kris Kennaway , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook DocBook cutover complete References: <19990327162554.K3136@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990329105741.L23968@lehman.com> From: Joel Ray Holveck Date: 29 Mar 1999 22:42:49 -0600 In-Reply-To: nclayton@lehman.com's message of "Mon, 29 Mar 1999 10:57:41 +0100" Message-ID: <86r9q7egfq.fsf@detlev.UUCP> Lines: 57 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This has been removed from -current, since it's really more -doc material. Please leave me in the cc's, tho, I'm not subscribed. >>> Almost a year ago I started the project to switch the Handbook over >>> from LinuxDoc to DocBook. My $0.02: I've looked at both, and decided that DocBook is much cleaner. It's kind of like the difference between HPGL and PostScript. (I don't mean to compare LinuxDoc to HPGL or DocBook to PostScript; I'm just comparing the difference.) >> Can I ask what the differences and benefits are? > As follows; > * LinuxDoc is descended from the QWERTZ DTD, and was designed to serve > the needs of the Linux Documentation Project. How do these needs differ from those of the FreeBSD documentation project? > When processed, both those might be displayed in a monospaced font. > However, the DocBook version includes extra information. We don't do > it yet, but the DocBook Handbook will eventually include several > indices. One of these will be a list of each page where each filename > is mentioned, allowing you to quickly see all the places where (for > example) ppp.conf is referred to. It also means that if, later on, we decide that filenames look cleaner in italics instead of monospace (for instance), we can do so. > * DocBook is extensible. It's relatively easy to add your own elements, > for things that are missing from DocBook. I've done this for the > Handbook, adding things like "" and "". This is > harder to with LinuxDoc. What are you using these tags for? > * Tools to convert DocBook to other formats are not quite as advanced > as the LinuxDoc tools, but are getting their rapidly. I would be interested in hearing your comments on DocBook tools, what you find indispensable (both in the drafing process and for finals), etc. > As it currently stands in the repository, the DocBook Handbook can be > converted to HTML, Postscript, plain text, and Microsoft RTF. A bug > that I'll fix this week is currently preventing PDF generation. The GNU project is writing a converter to TeXinfo. Cheers, joelh -- Joel Ray Holveck - joelh@gnu.org Fourth law of programming: Anything that can go wrong wi sendmail: segmentation violation - core dumped To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 29 23:12:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from firewall2.lehman.com (firewall.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B21114D16 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 23:12:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall2.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id CAA08881; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 02:11:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id CAA23481; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 02:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by lonmailhost.lehman.com (SMI-8.6/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id IAA14841; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 08:11:15 +0100 Message-ID: <19990330081115.S14492@lehman.com> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 08:11:15 +0100 From: nclayton@lehman.com To: Joel Ray Holveck Cc: Kris Kennaway , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook DocBook cutover complete References: <19990327162554.K3136@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990329105741.L23968@lehman.com> <86r9q7egfq.fsf@detlev.UUCP> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <86r9q7egfq.fsf@detlev.UUCP>; from Joel Ray Holveck on Mon, Mar 29, 1999 at 10:42:49PM -0600 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 29, 1999 at 10:42:49PM -0600, Joel Ray Holveck wrote: > >> Can I ask what the differences and benefits are? > > As follows; > > * LinuxDoc is descended from the QWERTZ DTD, and was designed to serve > > the needs of the Linux Documentation Project. > > How do these needs differ from those of the FreeBSD documentation > project? They're not radically different. The LDP had a lot of people used to LaTeX, and wanted something that would map to that quite easily, which LinuxDoc does. DocBook existed then, but they didn't choose it for some reason. Whether this was because of "not invented here" syndrome, or something else, I don't know. > > When processed, both those might be displayed in a monospaced font. > > However, the DocBook version includes extra information. We don't do > > it yet, but the DocBook Handbook will eventually include several > > indices. One of these will be a list of each page where each filename > > is mentioned, allowing you to quickly see all the places where (for > > example) ppp.conf is referred to. > > It also means that if, later on, we decide that filenames look cleaner > in italics instead of monospace (for instance), we can do so. Yep. We can even do so on a 'per output format' basis. From reading examples of other typeset documentation, I think filenames in italics for the print version would work well. For HTML (due to the poor rendering of italics on many screens) mono-spaced would be better. > > * DocBook is extensible. It's relatively easy to add your own elements, > > for things that are missing from DocBook. I've done this for the > > Handbook, adding things like "" and "". This is > > harder to with LinuxDoc. > > What are you using these tags for? freefall is a hostname. 127.0.0.1 is an IP address. ftp.freebsd.org is a fully qualified domain name. xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx is a MAC address. all and install are targets in a Makefile. DESTDIR is a variable that controls where files will be installed. See doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dtd for more information. > > * Tools to convert DocBook to other formats are not quite as advanced > > as the LinuxDoc tools, but are getting their rapidly. > > I would be interested in hearing your comments on DocBook tools, what > you find indispensable (both in the drafing process and for finals), > etc. [x]emacs for all editing, in conjunction with PSGML mode. It makes writing SGML much easier. Because DocBook contains no presentational markup you don't need a graphical editor (or at least, I don't). For proof-reading I tend to convert to Postscript, print it out, and annotate it. That's mostly because most of my proof reading time is spent on trains without a laptop, so this is the best approach for me. Turning DocBook in to HTML, Postscript, and other formats is relatively simple using Jade and some DSSSL stylesheets (all in the ports collection). At the moment, doc/en/handbook/Makefile contains all the logic to do this automatically. I'll be splitting this up in to an independent Makefile (bsd.docbook.mk?) soon, so that converting your own documents will be as simple as # # Makefile to convert foo.sgml to HTML, PS, etc # SRCS= foo.sgml FORMATS= html html-split ps rtf .include "bsd.docbook.mk" At some point I'll port (unless someone beats me to it) the SGML Tools package as well (which is just a set of wrappers around programs like Jade) so you can do docb2html foo.sgml That's not very high on my list of priorities though. > > As it currently stands in the repository, the DocBook Handbook can be > > converted to HTML, Postscript, plain text, and Microsoft RTF. A bug > > that I'll fix this week is currently preventing PDF generation. > > The GNU project is writing a converter to TeXinfo. That'll be handy. Have you got any pointers to more information? I couldn't see anything about this on www.gnu.org. Cheers, N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 30 2:10:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97F815A02 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 02:10:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id CAA33738; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 02:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freebsd.first.gmd.de (freebsd.first.gmd.de [194.95.170.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BECF215387 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 02:02:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@freebsd.first.gmd.de) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freebsd.first.gmd.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA27468; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 11:58:50 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-Id: <199903300958.LAA27468@freebsd.first.gmd.de> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 11:58:50 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfram Schneider Reply-To: wosch@freebsd.first.gmd.de To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/10869: Please add WebEvent to your commercial vendors page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 10869 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Please add WebEvent to your commercial vendors page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Mar 30 02:10:01 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Wolfram Schneider >Release: FreeBSD 3.0-971022-SNAP i386 >Organization: >Environment: Message-Id: Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:35:26 -0500 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG From: James Cameron Subject: Please add WebEvent to your commercial vendors page Hello, Matador Design, Inc., is software development firm. We just released WebEvent 3.1 BETA with is available for every major web server including FreeBSD systems. Our main web site is run on FreeBSD and we find it to be a great system to manage and support. Please add a link to the software vendors page. It could consist of something along these lines: WebEvent is a web-based calendar and scheduling solution available for FreeBSD web servers. It is a perfect addition to any Internet or Intranet web site that needs to display event information, manage schedules, rooms, or other resources. For more information, please visit our Web site at: http://www.MatadorDesign.com/ Thank you in advance for letting the FreeBSD know about this commercial option for their system. -James Cameron Matador Design, Inc. http://www.MatadorDesign.com >Description: >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 30 8:23:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from detlev.UUCP (28-sweet.camalott.com [208.239.153.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A8715AEF for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 08:23:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joelh@gnu.org) Received: (from joelh@localhost) by detlev.UUCP (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA30580; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 10:23:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from joelh) To: nclayton@lehman.com Cc: Kris Kennaway , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook DocBook cutover complete References: <19990327162554.K3136@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990329105741.L23968@lehman.com> <86r9q7egfq.fsf@detlev.UUCP> <19990330081115.S14492@lehman.com> From: Joel Ray Holveck Date: 30 Mar 1999 10:22:59 -0600 In-Reply-To: nclayton@lehman.com's message of "Tue, 30 Mar 1999 08:11:15 +0100" Message-ID: <86lngfdk0s.fsf@detlev.UUCP> Lines: 16 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> The GNU project is writing a converter to TeXinfo. > That'll be handy. Have you got any pointers to more information? I > couldn't see anything about this on www.gnu.org. No. rms issued a call for volunteers on last Monday. If he hasn't found anybody, I'm going to write it myself. I don't think it should take long to write. You (or anybody else on freebsd-doc) feel like testing it when it's ready? joelh -- Joel Ray Holveck - joelh@gnu.org Fourth law of programming: Anything that can go wrong wi sendmail: segmentation violation - core dumped To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 30 12:32:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 261DF15171 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 12:32:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@finianus.demon.nl) Received: from [194.159.227.38] (helo=genuine) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10S5BL-0006Tg-00 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 20:32:19 +0000 Message-ID: <000501be7aec$6494daa0$0401010a@finianus.demon.nl> From: To: Subject: Errata page Release 3.1 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 22:32:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On the following page http://www.freebsd.org/releases/3.1R/errata.html sub "Kernel change information is not changed ..." you might consider adding that if there is no /boot/loader.rc it has to be created. I did not find it, and made a new file with just the lines you give and it works fine! Thanks very much. Fortunately someone pointed me to the page in reply to a request I made in a newsgroup. Should have read it before I started anyway. Installation was no problem whatsoever after reading the errata. Great! Thanks! Marc Schneiders Zeist Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 30 14:54:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D464F14E97 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:54:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id WAA53309; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 22:14:16 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 22:14:15 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Joel Ray Holveck Cc: nclayton@lehman.com, Kris Kennaway , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook DocBook cutover complete Message-ID: <19990330221415.A51278@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990327162554.K3136@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990329105741.L23968@lehman.com> <86r9q7egfq.fsf@detlev.UUCP> <19990330081115.S14492@lehman.com> <86lngfdk0s.fsf@detlev.UUCP> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <86lngfdk0s.fsf@detlev.UUCP>; from Joel Ray Holveck on Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 10:22:59AM -0600 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 10:22:59AM -0600, Joel Ray Holveck wrote: > >> The GNU project is writing a converter to TeXinfo. > > That'll be handy. Have you got any pointers to more information? I > > couldn't see anything about this on www.gnu.org. > > No. rms issued a call for volunteers on last Monday. If he hasn't > found anybody, I'm going to write it myself. I don't think it should > take long to write. You (or anybody else on freebsd-doc) feel like > testing it when it's ready? Yep. In as much as I'll run the Handbook through it and see what comes out of the other end. Given the large amount of TeXinfo docs out there, a TeXinfo to DocBook converter would be quite useful as well. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 30 21:22:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f266.hotmail.com [207.82.251.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A9FA314E23 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:22:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from earojo@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 33276 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 1999 05:21:33 -0000 Message-ID: <19990331052133.33275.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 148.233.190.28 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:21:29 PST X-Originating-IP: [148.233.190.28] From: "Emmanuel Rojo" To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: hi Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:21:29 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hola: Antes que nada les envio un saludo. Les escribo para pedirles un favor. Estoy realizando una investigación para el colegio y necesito sabes cuales son los puntos que deben considerarse en la construcción de un bus de datos. Es decir, cuales son sus caracteristicas. por el momento ya investigue los buses ISA, EISA, PCI y algunos otros, pero no me queda muy claro cuales son los puntos que deben tomarse en cuenta para su diseño. de antemano les agracezco su ayuda. Emmanuel Alejandro Rojo Rodríguez. 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V1.5) id KAA05619; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:45:44 +0100 Message-ID: <19990331104544.E14492@lehman.com> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:45:44 +0100 From: nclayton@lehman.com To: Lowell Gilbert , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook DocBook cutover complete References: <19990327162554.K3136@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990330081115.S14492@lehman.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Lowell Gilbert on Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 09:11:02AM -0500 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, [ I've cc'd this to the -doc mailing list as well, so it gets in the archive. ] On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 09:11:02AM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > I've been reading the freebsd-doc mailing list, but I haven't seen a > description of when or how to move over to the DocBook system. > > I assume that I can just 'pkg_delete linuxdoc' and then build the > docproj port, then go to the root of the doc "source" tree and figure > things out from there. But I would like confirmation first, > particularly since my current copy of the doc sources still seems to > think that it's linuxdoc. [I haven't cvsup'd it lately, but I would > expect I'd need to do that before rebuilding under docbook as well.] That's pretty much it. Currently, the only documentation in the doc/ tree in DocBook is the English version of the Handbook (doc/en/handbook/*). Note that the old Handbook is still there (I haven't removed it yet, but I will do soon) in doc/handbook, but the Makefile's have been changed so that (1) nothing tries to build it, and (2) even if they did, it wouldn't work -- it now prints a polite message and then exits. You shouldn't delete "linuxdoc" because the other documentation still needs it. You're right in that to install the other programs you can just install the textproc/docproj port. However, keep in mind that this port *does not* check the version numbers of the packages that are installed, it just ensures that certain binaries exist in expected places. So you might need to manually remove some of the packages you've installed and replace them with new ones. For example, textproc/dsssl-docbook-modular is currently at v1.33. But if you've got v1.07 installed, it won't try and remove it and replace it with the new one. If anyone's got a good idea how to get around this I'd like to know about it. I'll get in touch with the folks over in -ports as well and see if there's a solution. In the meantime use (I think) sysutils/pkgversion. You need teTeX-beta and jadetex installed in order to build the Postscript version of the documentation (and the PDF version, when I fix that). This is a big package, and is not installed by the docproj port by default. You can ask for it to be installed by setting JADETEX=yes, i.e., # cd /usr/ports/textproc/docproj # make JADETEX=yes install or # make JADETEX=no install as necessary. Once these have all been installed, and you have an up to date copy of the doc tree to hand (and checked out in /usr/doc) you should be able to do # cd /usr/doc/en/handbook # make which will make the HTML (split into multiple files) version. You can also do # make FORMATS=foo where "foo" is one of "html", "txt", "ps", "rtf", and shortly, "pdf". Note that the Handbook is *not* self contained within the handbook/ directory. Specifically, it expects ../../share/* to exist as well (i.e., /usr/doc/share/*). This contains various support files that will eventually be shared among all the DocBook documents > I realize that the "how to build the handbook" document is still on > the to-do list with no one assigned to it, but a few hints now would > help a lot of us, and probably increase the odds of someone just doing > it. The primer (http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/primer/) explains how the Handbook is organised in to different files (it's slightly out of date, there are some extra files used now, but nothing serious). Due to popular demand I'll be committing the primer and making pointers to it more public in the near future. My home box is currently in the midst of an upgrade to 3.1 (I wanted to repartition some disks, and move entirely to ELF, so did this by reinstalling rather than just upgrading). When I've got everything recompiled and working properly (2 more days I think) then I'll be going through any other changes requested by people that are currently in my pending queue. N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 31 2:12: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from iist.unu.edu (unuiist.iist.unu.edu [192.203.232.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481AD15C10 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 02:11:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tsy@iist.unu.edu) Received: from aun.iist.unu.edu (aun.iist.unu.edu [192.203.232.77]) by iist.unu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA10658 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 18:11:54 +0800 (HKT) Received: from iist.unu.edu by aun.iist.unu.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA05151; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 18:11:45 +0800 Message-ID: <3701F4E1.BC9D3558@iist.unu.edu> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 18:11:45 +0800 From: Tian Siyuan Organization: UNU/IIST X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: NIS? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, FreeBSD, How can I start a NIS client? Many thanks, Tian Siyuan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 31 5:18:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bga.com (apm5-171.realtime.net [205.238.146.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDCD14C14 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 05:18:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jktheowl@bga.com) Received: (from jktheowl@localhost) by bga.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA05261; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 07:27:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 07:27:10 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199903311327.HAA05261@bga.com> From: John Kenagy To: Tian Siyuan Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: NIS? In-Reply-To: <3701F4E1.BC9D3558@iist.unu.edu> References: <3701F4E1.BC9D3558@iist.unu.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tian Siyuan writes: > Hi, FreeBSD, > > How can I start a NIS client? > Check www.realtime.net/sculpture/nis-startup.html for a simple tutorial. Let me know if it helps and what might be made more clear. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 31 9:13:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD8C14D3E for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 09:12:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lowell@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (STD1.2/BZS-8-1.0) id MAA13818; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 12:12:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA09710; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 12:12:08 -0500 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 12:12:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199903311712.AA09710@world.std.com> From: Lowell Gilbert To: kelly@plutotech.com, br@netland.inka.de Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19990331142109.N14492@lehman.com> (nclayton@lehman.com) Subject: Re: [nclayton@lehman.com: Re: Handbook DocBook cutover complete] References: <199903311306.AA05770@world.std.com> <19990331142109.N14492@lehman.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm having the following ports problems, keeping me from building the docs: - jadetex doesn't match its checksum and won't build (build failure is due to missing .sty files) - teTeX-beta won't build (build failure is a C language syntax error) I haven't put in PRs (send-pr) for these problems yet, as I'm waiting until I get a little more time to investigate them. I will, however, re-cvsup before further investigation, as both problems look like something slipping out of sync, and I'm not beyond hoping somebody who already knows the packages will fix them first. - Lowell Gilbert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 31 10:54: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9B815608 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:53:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id SAA89512; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 18:15:37 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 18:15:37 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Lowell Gilbert Cc: kelly@plutotech.com, br@netland.inka.de, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [nclayton@lehman.com: Re: Handbook DocBook cutover complete] Message-ID: <19990331181537.A83630@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199903311306.AA05770@world.std.com> <19990331142109.N14492@lehman.com> <199903311712.AA09710@world.std.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199903311712.AA09710@world.std.com>; from Lowell Gilbert on Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 12:12:08PM -0500 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 12:12:08PM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > I'm having the following ports problems, keeping me from building > the docs: > - jadetex doesn't match its checksum and won't build (build failure > is due to missing .sty files) > - teTeX-beta won't build (build failure is a C language syntax error) > > I haven't put in PRs (send-pr) for these problems yet, as I'm waiting > until I get a little more time to investigate them. I will, however, > re-cvsup before further investigation, as both problems look like > something slipping out of sync, and I'm not beyond hoping somebody who > already knows the packages will fix them first. What version of FreeBSD? I know they work on 2.2-stable (because that's what I tested them on originally) and they successfully installed on freefall (a 3.1-stable box) last weekend. My box is still rebuilding after my long-put-off ELF upgrade (I'm recompiling *everything*) and I'll be checking out these ports later. But in the mean time, more information, including logs of what went wrong (run script(1) before installing the port, then send me the 'typescript' file) would help. Cheers, N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 31 12:34:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (mail.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4F014E06 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 12:34:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kelly@plutotech.com) Received: from plutotech.com (kelly@tampopo.plutotech.com [206.168.67.161]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA17633; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:32:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from kelly@plutotech.com) Message-ID: <3702865C.CCF8B370@plutotech.com> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:32:28 -0700 From: Sean Kelly Organization: Pluto Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lowell Gilbert Cc: br@stiller.netland.inka.de, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [nclayton@lehman.com: Re: Handbook DocBook cutover complete] References: <199903311306.AA05770@world.std.com> <19990331142109.N14492@lehman.com> <199903311712.AA09710@world.std.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm having the following ports problems, keeping me from building > the docs: > - jadetex doesn't match its checksum and won't build (build failure > is due to missing .sty files) Uh oh ... I hope someone didn't change jadetex out from under us. Let me check ... sure enough, someone updated "jadetex.dtx" at http://tug.org/applications/jadetex/. The time stamp on the file is 30mar99. For now, try building the port with make NO_CHECKSUM=yes > - teTeX-beta won't build (build failure is a C language syntax error) Yuck! --Sean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 31 13:20:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3635A14DD4 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:20:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA05598; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:20:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACA815C86 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 13:10:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id XAA11668 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 23:10:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id UAA01639; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 20:11:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-Id: <199903311811.UAA01639@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 20:11:51 +0200 (CEST) From: Wolfram Schneider Reply-To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/10893: new vendor: NetBeans Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 10893 >Category: docs >Synopsis: new vendor: NetBeans >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Mar 31 13:20:00 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Wolfram Schneider >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: Message-ID: From: Jeff Crystal To: "'www@freebsd.org'" Subject: new vendor: NetBeans Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 15:06:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BE7B7F.A95BA390" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Status: RO Content-Length: 1448 Lines: 56 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BE7B7F.A95BA390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-2" see attached file. Cheers, Jeff -------------------------------------------- Jeff Crystal NetBeans, Inc. jeff.crystal@netbeans.com +4202.8300.7325 Join Early Access http://www.netbeans.com/eap.html -------------------------------------------- ------_=_NextPart_000_01BE7B7F.A95BA390 Content-Type: text/html; name="NB FreeBSD.html" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="NB FreeBSD.html" Content-Location: ATT-0-6F5099AE69E7D211AB3C0060083EAE1E-N BFREE%7E1.HTM NetBeans Inc

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    ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE7C49.01697D60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 1 0:39:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from netserv1.chg.ru (netserv1.chg.ru [193.233.46.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E9E15D57 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 00:36:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dima@netserv1.chg.ru) Received: (from dima@localhost) by netserv1.chg.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA14017; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:33:20 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:33:20 +0400 (MSD) From: Dima Sivachenko Message-Id: <199904010833.MAA14017@netserv1.chg.ru> To: bark@onos.orgus.ru, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Yogoslavia , Kosovo In-Reply-To: <000701be7c16$b776e620$3300a8c0@51.onos.orgus.ru> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Stop bombardment Yogoslavia & Kosovo !!! > Barkovskij Alexandr from Russia... > Yes, stop immediately!!!! Dmitry Sivachenko from Russia. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 1 3:26:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F8314BE9 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 03:26:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from br@netland.inka.de) Received: from stiller.netland.inka.de by mail.inka.de with uucp (rmailwrap 0.4) id 10Sfbj-0006T9-00; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:25:59 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stiller.netland.inka.de (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA09773; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:10:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from br@netland.inka.de) Message-Id: <199904011110.NAA09773@stiller.netland.inka.de> To: Lowell Gilbert Cc: kelly@plutotech.com, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [nclayton@lehman.com: Re: Handbook DocBook cutover complete] In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 31 Mar 1999 12:12:08 CDT." <199903311712.AA09710@world.std.com> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 13:10:19 +0200 From: Bernd Rosauer Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > - teTeX-beta won't build (build failure is a C language syntax error) FYI, as I am the maintainer of the teTeX ports: In the next couple of days there will be a code freeze on the teTeX-0.9-pretest tree, because a new TeX Live CD-ROM will go to press soon. The code freeze will mark a stable-enough version of teTeX-0.9. From this version I will update and revise the teTeX-beta port. Thanks for your patience. -Bernd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 1 4:20:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE81814EC2 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 04:20:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id EAA65781; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 04:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from hyperbole.francenet.fr (hyperbole.francenet.fr [193.149.97.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152721562C for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 04:12:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eagle@hyperbole.francenet.fr) Received: (from eagle@localhost) by hyperbole.francenet.fr (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA03859; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:06:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from eagle) Message-Id: <199904011206.OAA03859@hyperbole.francenet.fr> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:06:56 +0200 (CEST) From: gioria@francenet.fr Reply-To: gioria@francenet.fr To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/10903: Modifications for French Docs Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 10903 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Modifications of translation web page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Apr 1 04:20:01 PST 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sebastien GIORIA >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: FranceNet >Environment: FreeBSD hyperbole.francenet.fr 3.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE #6: Thu Feb 25 10:24:28 CET 1999 root@hyperbole.francenet.fr:/usr/src/sys/compile/HYPERBOLE i386 >Description: We made some modifications on our web site so, please update the translation.sgml we page with the following diffs. Some informations from French documentation project: - FAQ is been reviewed - Handbook is more complete day after day. - CVS repository is available, web and anonymous - More contributors to french docs >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- translations.sgml.orig Thu Apr 1 12:26:43 1999 +++ translations.sgml Thu Apr 1 12:26:51 1999 @@ -101,19 +101,21 @@
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    >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 1 5:12: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55778150D0 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 05:12:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id IAA02683; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 08:11:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id IAA05341; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 08:11:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by lonmailhost.lehman.com (SMI-8.6/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id OAA03059; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:11:13 +0100 Message-ID: <19990401141113.X14492@lehman.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:11:13 +0100 From: nclayton@lehman.com To: Lowell Gilbert , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [nclayton@lehman.com: Re: Handbook DocBook cutover complete] References: <199903311306.AA05770@world.std.com> <19990331142109.N14492@lehman.com> <199903311638.AA07522@world.std.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199903311638.AA07522@world.std.com>; from Lowell Gilbert on Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 11:38:05AM -0500 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 11:38:05AM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Incidentally, I've had a couple of minor problems building the docproj > ports. One of the tarballs failed to match its checksum (I believe > that was jadetex). Sebastian has updated the files, without providing an older version. I've got a copy of the original tarball at home that I'll put up on freefall and change the port to point to that instead. Should happen tonight some time. N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 1 5:23: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5734214CC2 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 05:23:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id IAA16596; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 08:22:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id IAA08573; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 08:22:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by lonmailhost.lehman.com (SMI-8.6/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id OAA03668; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:22:14 +0100 Message-ID: <19990401142214.Z14492@lehman.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:22:14 +0100 From: nclayton@lehman.com To: Ayan George , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Learning SGML References: <199903291718.MAA77303@kiwi.hefty.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199903291718.MAA77303@kiwi.hefty.org>; from Ayan George on Mon, Mar 29, 1999 at 12:18:43PM -0500 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 29, 1999 at 12:18:43PM -0500, Ayan George wrote: > Can anyone suggest a good SGML book for use with the SGML tools > available for FreeBSD? Depends what you need. If you don't need to know much about SGML, but just how to write DocBook, then take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/primer/ (which will be moving in to the FreeBSD 'official' documentation set soon) It also covers much of the SGML theory that you'll need. http://www.oasis-open.org/cover/ is the definitive web resource. You might like to try _SGML for Dummies_. Crap title, but quite informative, and well presented. And there's also _DocBook: The definitive guide_. More info at the (incomplete) website, http://www.docbook.org/ Note that the text of this book will be FREELY DOWNLOADABLE (it isn't yet). But if anyone finds it useful (and I think *anyone* that helps contribute docs to the project will) I'd urge them to shell out the money for it when it's released. The author, Norm Walsh, is a *good bloke* -- we use his stylesheets to format the online and print versions of the Handbook. N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 1 11:45:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD55B15119 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:45:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA256143724; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:08:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:08:44 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fumerola To: Dima Sivachenko Cc: bark@onos.orgus.ru, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Yogoslavia , Kosovo In-Reply-To: <199904010833.MAA14017@netserv1.chg.ru> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Dima Sivachenko wrote: > > Stop bombardment Yogoslavia & Kosovo !!! > > Barkovskij Alexandr from Russia... > > Yes, stop immediately!!!! This is not the place to discuss this. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 1 18:23:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from shell2.la.best.com (shell2.la.best.com [209.24.216.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E2615245; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:23:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nugundam@shell2.la.best.com) Received: (from nugundam@localhost) by shell2.la.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) id SAA07998; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:22:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19990401182248.A7359@la.best.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:22:48 -0800 From: "Joseph T. Lee" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook DocBook cutover complete References: <19990329122223.D14492@lehman.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Brian Feldman on Mon, Mar 29, 1999 at 06:34:27AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 29, 1999 at 06:34:27AM -0500, Brian Feldman wrote: > Doc is a nice format, but it's not hypertext. Check out > ports/palm/pilot_makedoc TealDoc's version supports graphics and links. -- Joseph nugundam =best=com==/==\=IIGS=/==\=Playstation=/==\=Civic HX CVT=/==\ # Anime Expo 1998 >> www.anime-expo.org/ > # Redline Games >> www.redlinegames.com/ > # Cal-Animage Epsilon >> www.best.com/~nugundam/epsilon/ > # EX: The Online World of Anime & Manga >> www.ex.org/ / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 1 18:41:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BB615329; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:41:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA79964; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:40:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:40:43 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: "Joseph T. Lee" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook DocBook cutover complete In-Reply-To: <19990401182248.A7359@la.best.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Joseph T. Lee wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 1999 at 06:34:27AM -0500, Brian Feldman wrote: > > Doc is a nice format, but it's not hypertext. Check out > > ports/palm/pilot_makedoc > > TealDoc's version supports graphics and links. Is it a published format, though? I know TealDoc is $$$, but the format must be open for it to be worth it to us Palm users. > > -- > Joseph nugundam =best=com==/==\=IIGS=/==\=Playstation=/==\=Civic HX CVT=/==\ > # Anime Expo 1998 >> www.anime-expo.org/ > > # Redline Games >> www.redlinegames.com/ > > # Cal-Animage Epsilon >> www.best.com/~nugundam/epsilon/ > > # EX: The Online World of Anime & Manga >> www.ex.org/ / > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ | _ \__ \ |) | http://www.freebsd.org _ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 2 1:14: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FEE8152E9 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:13:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA73247; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:14:52 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:14:52 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Bernd Rosauer Cc: Lowell Gilbert , kelly@plutotech.com, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [nclayton@lehman.com: Re: Handbook DocBook cutover complete] Message-ID: <19990401191452.A72996@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199903311712.AA09710@world.std.com> <199904011110.NAA09773@stiller.netland.inka.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199904011110.NAA09773@stiller.netland.inka.de>; from Bernd Rosauer on Thu, Apr 01, 1999 at 01:10:19PM +0200 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 01, 1999 at 01:10:19PM +0200, Bernd Rosauer wrote: > > - teTeX-beta won't build (build failure is a C language syntax error) > > The code freeze will mark a stable-enough version of teTeX-0.9. From > this version I will update and revise the teTeX-beta port. Before you do this, can you and I get together with whatever changes you make to the port, and test them first. The port's now used to produce the PS (and PDF) versions of the Handbook (and shortly other documentation) and I'd like to ensure that this will all still work. Cheers, N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 2 2: 8:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from connectexpress.com (paperboy.connectexpress.net [206.191.188.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8BD14FC1 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 02:08:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patricks@connectexpress.com) Received: from connectexpress.com (051.saturn.connectexpress.com [208.237.228.51]) by connectexpress.com (8.8.7/Spam_kills) with ESMTP id CAA29571 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 02:08:08 -0800 Message-ID: <370496C9.6D40EE92@connectexpress.com> Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 02:07:23 -0800 From: Patrick Sweeney Reply-To: patricks@connectexpress.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Man page typo for natd(8) ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi - Given the release you may not care to change it, but I was just looking over the Hypertext man page for natd(8) on 2.2.6-RELASE, and I noticed what may be a typo. The interface option is listed as -i, rather than -n. :-) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=natd&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+2.2.6-RELEASE&format=html ========================================= NATD(8) FreeBSD System Manager's Manual NATD(8) NAME natd - Network Address Translation Daemon SYNOPSIS natd [-ldsmvu] [-permanent_link] [-dynamic] [-i inport] [-o outport] [-p port] [-a address] [-i interface] [-f configfile] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 2 5:26:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DBBC14D63 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 05:26:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA19040; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:26:00 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:26:00 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Lowell Gilbert Cc: kelly@plutotech.com, br@netland.inka.de, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [nclayton@lehman.com: Re: Handbook DocBook cutover complete] Message-ID: <19990402132600.A18881@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199903311306.AA05770@world.std.com> <19990331142109.N14492@lehman.com> <199903311712.AA09710@world.std.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199903311712.AA09710@world.std.com>; from Lowell Gilbert on Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 12:12:08PM -0500 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 12:12:08PM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > I'm having the following ports problems, keeping me from building > the docs: > - jadetex doesn't match its checksum and won't build (build failure > is due to missing .sty files) Fixed. Grab them from http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/distfiles/jadetex/. Either put that path in the MASTER_SITES line in the Makefile, or update your ports collection, because I've just committed the change. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 2 6:56:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail15.svr.pol.co.uk (mail15.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9715914E1F for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 06:56:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@eborcom.com) Received: from modem-1.adderall.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.48.129]) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10T5MN-0007pV-00 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:55:53 +0100 Received: (qmail 1813 invoked by uid 5000); 2 Apr 1999 09:52:49 -0000 Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:52:49 +0100 From: Tom Hukins To: Don Capps Cc: "'freebsd-doc@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Updated version of Filesystem benchmark Message-ID: <19990402105249.A946@eborcom.com> Mail-Followup-To: Don Capps , "'freebsd-doc@freebsd.org'" References: <01BE7B7D.83D2A0A0@cappsob> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <01BE7B7D.83D2A0A0@cappsob>; from Don Capps on Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 01:50:42PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 01:50:42PM -0600, Don Capps wrote: > Just a quick note to let you know that the version of Iozone that > you are making available is pretty old. The latest version may be > obtained from: www.iozone.org Don, freebsd-doc isn't the most suitable place to discuss ports related issues. For more information on how the ports collection works, see . You will probably be most interested in the "What to do when a port does not work" section. You could also ask the port's maintainer (jmz@FreeBSD.org) and ask him if he has any plans to upgrade the port. Regards, Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 2 13:29:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.fda.net (unknown [209.144.107.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E9D14CA8 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:29:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shellis@fda.net) Received: from fda.net (ts35p18.fda.net [209.144.107.131]) by ns2.fda.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA11980 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:29:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3705367E.7797C779@fda.net> Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 13:28:30 -0800 From: s Reply-To: shellis@fda.net Organization: t X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: offer of help Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please let me offer my limited abilities to help in the documentation project. I very much enjoy working with FreeBSD. Please accept my thanks for a wonderful operating system. Regards, Steve Ellis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 3 20: 6:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from portal.west.saic.com (portal.west.saic.com [198.151.12.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D547614BE6 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:06:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hastings@mail.cistw.saic.com) Received: from [10.11.15.198] by portal.west.saic.com via smtpd (for hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 04:04:26 UT Received: by titan.cistw.saic.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:02:32 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Hastings, Clint" To: "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Non-Functional FreeBSD Handbook Links Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:02:31 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Howdy, I just tried to access some sections of your online FreeBSD handbook from "http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook.html" and found that NONE of the links found there are functional. However, if I visit "http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/" all the links work just fine. Just thought I'd mention this just in case you didn't already know about the problem. Thanks, Clint To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 4 0:43:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAF11514D; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 00:43:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id AAA73534; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 00:41:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 00:41:40 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199904040841.AAA73534@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10759 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Request to be added to the Consulting list. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Sun Apr 4 00:39:37 PST 1999 State-Changed-Why: Added to www/en/commercial/software.raw:1.4 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 4 0:44:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67DE41518E; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 00:44:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id AAA73609; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 00:42:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 00:42:19 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199904040842.AAA73609@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10760 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Consulting Services web page Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Apr 4 00:42:02 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Grabbed it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 4 1: 3:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13F115195; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 01:03:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id BAA74924; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 01:01:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 01:01:50 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199904040901.BAA74924@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10761 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: FreeBSD compatible product on Database Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Apr 4 01:01:32 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Grabbed it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 4 1:10:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999F514D16; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 01:10:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id BAA75549; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 01:08:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 01:08:29 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199904040908.BAA75549@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10823 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: listing B.M.K. Industries Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Apr 4 01:08:15 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Got it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 4 1:15:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FCA14D9A; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 01:15:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id BAA75914; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 01:13:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 01:13:43 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199904040913.BAA75914@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10843 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Request to be added to the Consulting list. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Apr 4 01:13:27 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Mine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 4 1:19:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBCE514CE1; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 01:19:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id BAA76229; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 01:17:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 01:17:47 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199904040917.BAA76229@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10869 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Please add WebEvent to your commercial vendors page Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Apr 4 01:17:31 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I've grabbed it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 4 1:25:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E79314D79; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 01:25:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id BAA76468; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 01:23:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 01:23:39 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <199904040923.BAA76468@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10893 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: new vendor: NetBeans Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Apr 4 01:23:25 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Got it. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 4 5:32:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A98151F7; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 05:32:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dfr@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id FAA83250; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 05:30:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 05:30:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904041230.FAA83250@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chris@calldei.com, dfr@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10412 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: kld*() calls are undocumented State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dfr State-Changed-When: Sun Apr 4 05:29:55 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed manpages, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 4 13: 4:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail001.mediacity.com (mail001.mediacity.com [205.216.172.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5BCD2153EA for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 13:04:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mrcastle@ispchannel.com) Received: (qmail 6241 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 20:08:37 -0000 Received: from cm206199119.orion.ispchannel.com (HELO g0t0k3) (206.19.91.19) by mail001.mediacity.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 20:08:37 -0000 Message-ID: <000701bad84d$cb823720$135b13ce@g0t0k3> From: To: Subject: cable modem help Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 05:33:53 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BAD80A.BCA65580" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BAD80A.BCA65580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I really appreciate all the documentation on FreeBSD. 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        I really=20 appreciate all the documentation on FreeBSD.  I have one = suggestion. =20 Consider adding a section for cable modems.  I am stuck, and cannot = figure=20 out how to connect my one-way cable modem, and having FreeBSD recognise=20 it.
    ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BAD80A.BCA65580-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 4 13:49:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD1114E9F; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 13:49:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA54265; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 13:47:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 13:47:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904042047.NAA54265@freefall.freebsd.org> To: gioria@francenet.fr, wosch@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10903: Modifications of translation web page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Modifications of translation web page State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: wosch State-Changed-When: Sun Apr 4 13:46:43 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: patch applied in www/en/docproj/translations.sgml rev 1.20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 4 14:33:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCF414E0A; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:33:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from steve@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA57163; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:31:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:31:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904042131.OAA57163@freefall.freebsd.org> To: steve@FreeBSD.org, gnats-admin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pending/10877: manpage for objformat incorrectly mentions a.out Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: manpage for objformat incorrectly mentions a.out Responsible-Changed-From-To: gnats-admin->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: steve Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Apr 4 14:29:42 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Misfiled PR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 4 14:52:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971DD14FD8 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:52:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id WAA81429; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 22:50:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 22:50:23 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: emre@ergste.net Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook in PDF format is old ... Message-ID: <19990404225023.A81011@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from emre@ergste.net on Mon, Mar 15, 1999 at 09:24:07AM -0800 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Mon, Mar 15, 1999 at 09:24:07AM -0800, emre@ergste.net wrote: > Printing the PDF version, with prior "splitting" with FinePrint > does look great, unfortunately only an old version of the > docs is available via download (PDF-> February, 1998, > PS-> March/February, 1999). > > Is there any chance of getting a PDF version that is > up to date ? It's taken me two weeks to get the updated software in place (and it's not happening automatically yet) but ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/ contains the Handbook in a variety of formats (including PDF) available compressed using gzip, zip, and bzip2. Hope that's useful. It should be automated and built daily sometime within the next fortnight. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 4 16:59:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03941531A; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 16:59:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id AAA97146; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 00:57:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 00:57:02 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org, committers@freebsd.org Subject: Handbook freeze over Message-ID: <19990405005702.A96821@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, The Handbook freeze is now over, so have at it! Remember, doc/handbook is now obsolete, and all new commits should be to doc/en/handbook. Take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/primer/index.html before you do anything you're not sure about, and please feel free to run patches past me first if you're at all uneasy about anything you plan on committing. doc/handbook has about a week to live before I "cvs remove" it. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 4 19:22:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D28814D94; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 19:22:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA00761; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:50:50 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id LAA06622; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:50:47 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19990405115047.Q2142@lemis.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:50:47 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Darren Pilgrim , junkmale@xtra.co.nz, Bill Fumerola , Donald Wilde , FreeBSD Documenters Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Installation Guide Project [Was: Re: FreeBSD Adovcacy] References: <19990403191536.G2142@lemis.com> <19990404005224.CUBP5707006.mta2-rme@wocker> <3706CA33.986B5C15@uswest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <3706CA33.986B5C15@uswest.net>; from Darren Pilgrim on Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 06:10:59PM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm copying FreeBSD-doc on this. We should have done this long ago: this has less to do with advocacy than it does with documentation. On Saturday, 3 April 1999 at 18:10:59 -0800, Darren Pilgrim wrote: >> Darren, do not waver. Your stuff is needed. I'll help you any way I can. >> Whether you choose to go the handbook or whatever, IGP still needed. The >> best witness to that fact is the number of request we get on undernet >> #freebsd for help with installs. > > Given all the off-list offers and on-list discussion it's pretty > obvious to me that the IGP is sorely needed. I don't think anybody denies that. The discussion has been about how you should implement it, not if you should. > I'm going to see to it that the IGP goes through to compile a > no-assumptions guide. I've had a very long think about the Handbook > and incorporating the IGP with it and come to the conclusion that > while parts of the IGP probably could fit very well with the > Handbook, rewriting the Handbook is just not what I want to do. I find this sad. You'd get a lot more help and cooperation if you'd do it in the existing framework. If you go it alone, well, you go it alone. On Saturday, 3 April 1999 at 20:43:41 -0800, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > Bill Fumerola wrote: > >> Blah, blah, yadda, yadda. Instead of being a hero for the people try >> updaing the existing documentation. > >> If you want to duplicate work, by all means, put it on your own website >> and scream on the mailing lists "_MY_ work is better, go to >> http://foo/FreeBSD-better-handbook/". >> >> Just don't expect anyone to 'cvs rm' the handbook (which isn't bad at all) >> and import your newest brainstorm. > >> That would be because you are trying to replace an established work with >> your pipedream. > >> This may sound like a quote from a jkh post, but: I haven't seen anything >> tangible, just an "I don't like this", and when you've moved on to other >> things, the handbook will still be here. > > > This is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. Perhaps you'd > like to read my other comments and elaboration about the IGP? I'm not > trying to replace the Handbook. Despite what Bill says, I think you should be. There are lots of different styles in the handbook; putting in the IGP would be an enrichment. As I said earlier, that doesn't mean that it should not be possible to extract the IGP as a standalone document. On Saturday, 3 April 1999 at 20:58:59 -0800, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > Donald Wilde wrote: >> >> Re: your >> >> One of the things you'll have to get used to is that anybody who stands >> up gets poked at, sometimes even by Project pillars like Jordan and >> Greg. Use it to stiffen your resolve, and don't let it dismay you. > > Aye, point well taken. But this is my first serious attempt, couldn't > yall have at least handed me a can of mace before throwing me to the > dogs? :-) Why should you get special treatment? :-) >> Stay the course, Darren. Talk to the -newbies and ignore the crabby, >> jaded ones who've forgotten what it's like not to have a clue about BSD. >> :-D > > I plan on soliciting for volunteers in -newbies. I just want to have > some kind of a webpage up for them to read before waving the Uncle > Sam posters. It seems fashionable at the moment to believe that newbies can do things that experienced people can't, simply because they're closer to the problem. I have yet to see a really successful document come out of this approach. I've found it a lot easier to let experienced people write the documentation and have newbies review it to death. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 4 21: 0:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7FD151B5 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 21:00:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.164.76]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990405035957.DOSU5752963.mta2-rme@wocker>; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:59:57 +1200 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Greg Lehey Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:58:55 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Installation Guide Project [Was: Re: FreeBSD Adovcacy] Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: <19990405115047.Q2142@lemis.com> References: <3706CA33.986B5C15@uswest.net>; from Darren Pilgrim on Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 06:10:59PM -0800 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990405035957.DOSU5752963.mta2-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 5 Apr 99, at 11:50, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> Stay the course, Darren. Talk to the -newbies and ignore the crabby, > >> jaded ones who've forgotten what it's like not to have a clue about > >> BSD. :-D > > > > I plan on soliciting for volunteers in -newbies. I just want to have > > some kind of a webpage up for them to read before waving the Uncle Sam > > posters. > > It seems fashionable at the moment to believe that newbies can do > things that experienced people can't, simply because they're closer to the > problem. I have yet to see a really successful document come out of this > approach. I've found it a lot easier to let experienced people write the > documentation and have newbies review it to death. But that's what is proposed. Letting newbies review it. As for successful documents, and this is tongue in cheek for the humourless, some people, myself included, consider my website a success. And whilst I am a newbie with respect to FreeBSD, I'm not new to the computer field. I think it's horses for courses. I'm all for experienced people writing documents. But, clearly, nobody has stepped forward before this IGP was started. Otherwise, we'd already have the IG. -- Dan Langille The FreeBSD Diary http://www.FreeBSDDiary.com/freebsd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 4 21:11:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5299A1504F for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 21:11:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA01126; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:39:46 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id NAA07280; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:39:44 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19990405133944.Y2142@lemis.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:39:44 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, Darren Pilgrim Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Installation Guide Project [Was: Re: FreeBSD Adovcacy] References: <3706CA33.986B5C15@uswest.net>; <19990405115047.Q2142@lemis.com> <19990405035957.DOSU5752963.mta2-rme@wocker> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990405035957.DOSU5752963.mta2-rme@wocker>; from Dan Langille on Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 03:58:55PM +1200 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday, 5 April 1999 at 15:58:55 +1200, Dan Langille wrote: > On 5 Apr 99, at 11:50, Greg Lehey wrote: > >>>> Stay the course, Darren. Talk to the -newbies and ignore the crabby, >>>> jaded ones who've forgotten what it's like not to have a clue about >>>> BSD. :-D >>> >>> I plan on soliciting for volunteers in -newbies. I just want to have >>> some kind of a webpage up for them to read before waving the Uncle Sam >>> posters. >> >> It seems fashionable at the moment to believe that newbies can do >> things that experienced people can't, simply because they're closer to the >> problem. I have yet to see a really successful document come out of this >> approach. I've found it a lot easier to let experienced people write the >> documentation and have newbies review it to death. > > But that's what is proposed. Letting newbies review it. Ah, then I misunderstood. > As for successful documents, and this is tongue in cheek for the > humourless, some people, myself included, consider my website a > success. And whilst I am a newbie with respect to FreeBSD, I'm not > new to the computer field. I think it's horses for courses. Yes, I agree, your web site is a success. But it's not exactly documentation, at least not the way I understand that Darren wants to do it. > I'm all for experienced people writing documents. But, clearly, > nobody has stepped forward before this IGP was started. Otherwise, > we'd already have the IG. Right. I had intended to overhaul exactly this part of the handbook, but beyond writing a "what to download" section for review far too long ago now (http://www.lemis.com/handbook/what-to-download.html), I haven't done anything. As I said before, I'm not discussing whether it should be done, just how. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 4 23:51:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B9714FAD for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:51:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id QAA05100; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:49:34 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19990405164928.40818@welearn.com.au> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:49:28 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: Nocturne Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Another Installation Guide [was: FreeBSD Advocacy] References: <37052E56.D243D4F6@thuntek.net> <37053C70.A99BEB29@uswest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <37053C70.A99BEB29@uswest.net>; from Nocturne on Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 01:53:52PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 01:53:52PM -0800, Nocturne wrote: > > This is something that I could actually work on, so here I go: > > FreeBSD Installation Guide Project > > We need: > Web space for a home site and a person (or two) to make the pages. > People with working knowledge of how to setup a basic LAN (NAT, > routed/gated, DNS, ipfw, ppp) to work with dialup or DSL/cable. > Proof-readers to make sure the information has as few knowledge > pre-requisites as possible. > Users who are very new to either FreeBSD or unix in general to read > through the instructions and point out anything we miss or take for > granted. > (anything else?) > > We ask: > > What topics do we need to cover? > Do we really need any printed man pages? > What information can be accessed from the CD prior to install? > What of that information is printable? > (any other points to address?) I see this has generated a long thread that I might not have totally caught up with, nevertheless I'd like to make a few cynical remarks. I have seen scores of installation guide attempts come to nothing, a few reach a point where they are available but considered "unfinished" by their authors for months or years, and several actually finished. I don't like any of them. I have no reason to believe that the next one, or the one after that, is one I will like any better. In particular, those ideas which depend on enlisting volunteers to work with someone on their pet idea are famous for not getting off the ground. Hardly any new FreeBSD user hasn't said "gee, I could write a better installation guide" so it can be hard to sell them on the idea of working with someone else's ideas. See the first 2-3 months of the freebsd-newbies archive (a year ago) for many spectacular illustrations, but grab a tissue first. If you, or anyone else, wants to write YAIG please go right ahead. The more finished attempts the better. Just don't be too surprised if those around you are skeptical until it bears fruit. Once we've got a few dozen of these "Ha! Even I could do better than that!" documents, we might start to see a few that are indeed better, and from that new perspective we might start to get a better idea of what is required to cover everyone's needs. I'm not holding my breath, but it would be very nice to see. Having decided to proceed, you've got a big choice to make. Do you want this to be an independent effort, or a FreeBSD project? There are pros and cons with each, but you can't have it both ways. If you want it to be a FreeBSD project, to some extent that will allow you to draw on the human and other resources of the community, especially the Doc Project people. You can also give it a FreeBSD Doc Project name if it's functioning as a project. The cost is that the work you do with documentation as part of the central FreeBSD effort must fit in and support the existing Doc Project. That doesn't mean that it can't amplify it in new directions, but if you want the support of the team you gotta be prepared to play their game a little sometimes. Of course your goal would be to put effort into the FreeBSD Project, not dissipate its resources. The work you put in will help many other FreeBSD users and improve the standing of the Doc Project. If you want to do it external to the FreeBSD Project, you have total freedom. It's a bit hard to call it a FreeBSD project if it's not, but you can write whatever you like, however you want to, choose who works with you and even set out what they are to do. Human and other resources will be offered to you by individuals from the community, but external to the FreeBSD Project itself, on the basis of how well you are regarded, how clear your ideas are, and how easy to work with you appear to be. What's more, if you retain your position as leader throughout you can put it up on your own site somewhere as your own accomplishment. If it's good you might even manage to get a link to your site from the FreeBSD web site, and if it turns out not too good or incomplete, ah, hell, you can put it up somewhere anyway. The work you put in will help many other FreeBSD users and make you look good. In the past I've gotten pretty hot under the collar about people going off blowing their own little trumpets instead of working with the Doc team, but in this particular case I hold the opposite view. I predict that the next several attempts at an installation guide still won't cut it, and I'd like to see a fair bit more experimentation and testing before settling on what to have in the Handbook long term. That doesn't mean that the Handbook can't be improved or rewritten in the meantime, but it's a lot easier to ditch and replace a Handbook entry that was written by "Doc" than one which has a heavy investment of some individual's name or viewpoint. Go do your thing, any way you can, any way you feel like, for exactly as long as you feel like doing it. If you need the help of others, you'll get it if you're offering them what they need in return. Whatever you end up doing will be worthwhile and others are bound to learn from your experience in many ways. Just set out with very clear plans, and make sure it has a good chance of becoming very finished. Good luck! -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 0:17:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F62F14F55 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 00:17:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.164.76]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990405071708.EHEJ5596385.mta1-rme@wocker>; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:17:08 +1200 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Sue Blake Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:16:32 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Another Installation Guide [was: FreeBSD Advocacy] Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: doc@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <19990405164928.40818@welearn.com.au> References: <37053C70.A99BEB29@uswest.net>; from Nocturne on Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 01:53:52PM -0800 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990405071708.EHEJ5596385.mta1-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 5 Apr 99, at 16:49, Sue Blake wrote: > Having decided to proceed, you've got a big choice to make. > Do you want this to be an independent effort, or a FreeBSD project? > There are pros and cons with each, but you can't have it both ways. This is something I may have missed before. Everyone seems to agree an IG is needed. We now seem only to be debating the form: should it be part of the Handbook or not. Does this mean that if the IG is not part of the Handbook, then it's not a FreeBSD Project? [this isn't directed necessarily at you Sue] -- Dan Langille The FreeBSD Diary http://www.FreeBSDDiary.com/freebsd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 0:24:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC9114F55 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 00:24:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA01740; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:52:32 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id QAA07905; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:52:31 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19990405165231.O2142@lemis.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:52:31 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: FreeBSD Documenters Subject: Re: Another Installation Guide [was: FreeBSD Advocacy] References: <37053C70.A99BEB29@uswest.net>; <19990405164928.40818@welearn.com.au> <19990405071708.EHEJ5596385.mta1-rme@wocker> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990405071708.EHEJ5596385.mta1-rme@wocker>; from Dan Langille on Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 07:16:32PM +1200 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday, 5 April 1999 at 19:16:32 +1200, Dan Langille wrote: > On 5 Apr 99, at 16:49, Sue Blake wrote: > >> Having decided to proceed, you've got a big choice to make. >> Do you want this to be an independent effort, or a FreeBSD project? >> There are pros and cons with each, but you can't have it both ways. > > This is something I may have missed before. Everyone seems to agree an IG > is needed. We now seem only to be debating the form: should it be part of > the Handbook or not. Yup, you missed it. I said it in at least 3 messages. > Does this mean that if the IG is not part of the Handbook, then it's > not a FreeBSD Project? [this isn't directed necessarily at you Sue] Not to the same degree. Darren made it clear that he didn't like doing it in the framework of the handbook. That doesn't mean that it won't be gratefully accepted if he finishes it and does a good job, just that it's not a planned project. I think Sue put the issues pretty well. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 0:51:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8CBE15400 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 00:51:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.164.76]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990405075120.EPHP5752963.mta2-rme@wocker>; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:51:20 +1200 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Greg Lehey Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:50:18 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Another Installation Guide [was: FreeBSD Advocacy] Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: FreeBSD Documenters In-reply-to: <19990405165231.O2142@lemis.com> References: <19990405071708.EHEJ5596385.mta1-rme@wocker>; from Dan Langille on Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 07:16:32PM +1200 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990405075120.EPHP5752963.mta2-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 5 Apr 99, at 16:52, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Monday, 5 April 1999 at 19:16:32 +1200, Dan Langille wrote: > > On 5 Apr 99, at 16:49, Sue Blake wrote: > > > >> Having decided to proceed, you've got a big choice to make. > >> Do you want this to be an independent effort, or a FreeBSD project? > >> There are pros and cons with each, but you can't have it both ways. > > > > This is something I may have missed before. Everyone seems to agree an > > IG is needed. We now seem only to be debating the form: should it be > > part of the Handbook or not. > > Yup, you missed it. I said it in at least 3 messages. . No, it's not that which I missed... It's this next bit. > > Does this mean that if the IG is not part of the Handbook, then it's not > > a FreeBSD Project? [this isn't directed necessarily at you Sue] > > Not to the same degree. Darren made it clear that he didn't like > doing it in the framework of the handbook. That doesn't mean that it > won't be gratefully accepted if he finishes it and does a good job, just > that it's not a planned project. I think Sue put the issues pretty well. -- Dan Langille The FreeBSD Diary http://www.FreeBSDDiary.com/freebsd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 4:34:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C20C1540F for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 04:34:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA04508; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:32:19 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19990405213219.A4455@caamora.com.au> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:32:19 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz, Sue Blake Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Another Installation Guide [was: FreeBSD Advocacy] Mail-Followup-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz, Sue Blake , doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <37053C70.A99BEB29@uswest.net>; <19990405164928.40818@welearn.com.au> <19990405071708.EHEJ5596385.mta1-rme@wocker> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19990405071708.EHEJ5596385.mta1-rme@wocker>; from Dan Langille on Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 07:16:32PM +1200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 07:16:32PM +1200, Dan Langille wrote: > On 5 Apr 99, at 16:49, Sue Blake wrote: > > > Having decided to proceed, you've got a big choice to make. > > Do you want this to be an independent effort, or a FreeBSD project? > > There are pros and cons with each, but you can't have it both ways. > > This is something I may have missed before. Everyone seems to agree an IG > is needed. We now seem only to be debating the form: should it be part of > the Handbook or not. every cdrom (freebsd from walnut creek) comes with a installation 'guide' a booklet made from teh textfile authered by jordan k hubard. from what i can understand of teh depth of this documentation sub project is a very good effort. from this we go to teh efforts by greg lehey, a compilation of information .. so well written and some well why bother ? together with teh so what less than relevent manpages tacked on, it is a heavy awkward to use installation guide. on we go to a project by teh team at vmunix.com (sorry chris et al if i got this wrong, well any way the people behind teh daemonnews.org). on this site is teh genisis of a good book, also an installation guide. we have a pletora of 'installation guides', i would be so bold as to suggest that we don't need anotger 'installation guide', what we are in sore need off is good, well written and authered with a bit od sobriety some (many and relevent) linux style how-to's. already thier is a cache at freebsd,org in teh tutorials section and a few being added in s steady stream ... this stream will never be a torrent, mores the pity, but it is a growing stream and that is heartenig. > Does this mean that if the IG is not part of the Handbook, then it's not a > FreeBSD Project? [this isn't directed necessarily at you Sue] these tutorialettes, how-toettes can stand alone and be very seamlessly incorporated into 'teh handbook' project, or whatevr other flavour project you have on your hands. going back to one of teh better installation guide 'skeletons' "the complete freebsd", i've read it and read it both as a 'book to read' and as a source of information required to do a job, if it is a simple job and requires no real exp,anation or is not terribly complex 'teh complete freebsd is a really good place to turn .. it serves its purpose as a good installation GUIDE. but if one turns to teh complete freebsd as an authorotataive and ore definitive text on freebsd, it leaves a sadness, a sour taste int eh mouth as a direct restut of teh poor writing etyle and teh (at times groos incompleteness of teh few tpoics covered. it is a very good place to start and serves as a very good skeleten that whould, in this readers view be fleshed out more in teh next incarnation. comparisions are odious, so i hope i havent brought these two close enough for this to happen, be 'teh freebsd book', by the team at vmunix.com are doing a better job of work at turning out a differently polished job of work provided by teh complete freebsd. please, these re generalisations based on what i know of these two very seperate, very differently produced texts. i would like to say that as fro installation guides, we have many, possibly more than we need, in truth. but, as for how-to's i doubt we will ever have enough, even for a staid old, stable project like the berkeley unix, reincarnated as a free bsd. in closing, i'm ofering observations based on opinions i hold based on where i've been on teh pat that has gotten me to here, writting this .. to, for, you all. regards jonathan -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 6:26:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from kira.epconline.net (kira.epconline.net [209.83.132.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091C1150C5 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:26:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carock@epctech.com) Received: from borkstation (borkstation.epconline.net [209.83.132.11]) by kira.epconline.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA13315 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:29:08 -0600 (CST) From: "Chuck Rock" To: Subject: Man page for newsyslog... Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:25:21 -0500 Message-ID: <001201be7f67$c13a1200$0b8453d1@borkstation.epconline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was trying to learn how to use newsyslog, and the man page for it is missing a few details. In the description of porperties for the newsyslog.conf file, the size property mentions when a log reaches size, the log file will be trimmed. Is that k, meg or what? Also, the man page for newsyslog in FreeBSD 3.1 is different, but the date at the bottom of the man page is the same. Accurate documentation make's everyone happy. Thank you, Chuck Rock FreeBSD newbie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 7:51: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imap.ncsa.es (imap.ncsa.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D39614D21; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:50:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from demostenes (demostenes.ncsa.es [194.179.50.134]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA03100; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:50:03 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: "Jesus Rodriguez" From: "Jesus Rodriguez" To: Cc: Subject: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:51:22 +0200 Message-ID: <01be7f73$c588dc40$8632b3c2@demostenes.ncsa.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello... There is a problem with the docbook handbook, at least, in html generation for http://www.freebsd.org/handbook Ths links for "next", "Prev" and "Home" have a ? at left side that must not be there. The ? simbol is at "Table of contents" in home page too. JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 9:56:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imap.ncsa.es (imap.ncsa.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAAF314CC6; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:56:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from demostenes (demostenes.ncsa.es [194.179.50.134]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA04654; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:55:22 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: "Jesus Rodriguez" From: "Jesus Rodriguez" To: Cc: Subject: freebsd.dsl html-split handbook Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:56:42 +0200 Message-ID: <01be7f85$4813fd00$8632b3c2@demostenes.ncsa.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello... There is a problem with freebsd.dsl and html-split handbook format. I have had to comment the next lines for be able to make the html-split hanbook (and other own docs that use freebsd.dsl): share/sgml/freebsd.dsl: The problem seems that defining lang.ja makes that "gentext-nav-prev prev" on /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/html/dbl10n.dsl gets undefined and goes to: else(error "L10N ERROR: gentext-nav-prev) JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 10:34:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1271530F for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:34:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03798; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:31:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03139; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:31:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990405213219.A4455@caamora.com.au> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:31:41 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: jonathan michaels Subject: Re: Another Installation Guide [was: FreeBSD Advocacy] Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Sue Blake , junkmale@xtra.co.nz Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 05-Apr-99 jonathan michaels wrote: > every cdrom (freebsd from walnut creek) comes with a > installation 'guide' a booklet made from teh textfile authered > by jordan k hubard. from what i can understand of teh depth of > this documentation sub project is a very good effort. Have you read that recently? It hasn't changed since like 2.2.6 or something, and now is a bit out of date in some places. BTW, is that guid sotred in the tree somewhere? I'd like to submit some patches to update it to 3.x if I could get a copy to work off of. --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 10:35:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151DA1530F; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:34:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id SAA26245; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:21:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:21:22 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jesus Rodriguez Cc: doc@freebsd.org, nik@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <19990405182122.A24468@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <01be7f73$c588dc40$8632b3c2@demostenes.ncsa.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <01be7f73$c588dc40$8632b3c2@demostenes.ncsa.es>; from Jesus Rodriguez on Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 04:51:22PM +0200 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 04:51:22PM +0200, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > There is a problem with the docbook handbook, at least, in html > generation for http://www.freebsd.org/handbook > > Ths links for "next", "Prev" and "Home" have a ? at left side that must > not be there. The ? simbol is at "Table of contents" in home page too. Fixed. There was a time window when it was using EUC encoding. The website nightly build coincided with this window. The next update will fix this. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 10:35:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8DD81544D; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:34:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id SAA27063; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:27:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:27:53 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jesus Rodriguez Cc: doc@freebsd.org, nik@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd.dsl html-split handbook Message-ID: <19990405182753.B24468@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <01be7f85$4813fd00$8632b3c2@demostenes.ncsa.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <01be7f85$4813fd00$8632b3c2@demostenes.ncsa.es>; from Jesus Rodriguez on Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 06:56:42PM +0200 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 06:56:42PM +0200, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > There is a problem with freebsd.dsl and html-split handbook format. I > have had to comment the next lines for be able to make the html-split > hanbook (and other own docs that use freebsd.dsl): > > share/sgml/freebsd.dsl: > > > Put somewhere at the start of freebsd.dsl (right after the output.print entity is a good place). This is the fix I was talking about in my previous message. Which reminds me, if you need to put any Spanish specific stuff in, wrap it in and put in freebsd.dsl. Then run jade with jade -ilang.es .... to turn it on. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 12: 7:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.thuntek.net (srv1.thuntek.net [206.206.98.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CAA15511 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:07:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwilde1@thuntek.net) Received: from thuntek.net (abq-051.thuntek.net [207.66.52.51]) by srv1.thuntek.net (8.9.1/8.6.12TNT1.0) with ESMTP id NAA01777; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:05:38 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3709092D.A6695E3D@thuntek.net> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:04:13 -0600 From: Donald Wilde X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob Garrett Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: a showcase opportunity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Guys! I have an opportunity coming up in the medium future which will be a great chance to showcase FreeBSD and the Programmer's Doc project. Forrest Cavalier, the creator of the ReuseRKT (http://www.mibsoftware.com/reuse/), has been at it again. He's created a cross-platform source tree mirroring tool called HTTPsync, and DDJ is going to be publishing an article on it in the July issue, to hit the stands around the beginning of June. In return for my help in promoting his RKT site, Forrest has offered to link one or two of our showcase projects to his site via HTTPsync. Given the traffic boost he will get from DDJ, it will be an excellent firecracker for us as well. -- Don Wilde "Bringing the Internet to everyone!" Wilde Media 1380 Rio Rancho Blvd. SE #117 voice: 505-771-0709 Rio Rancho, New Mexico 87124 e-mail: dwilde1@thuntek.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 12:19:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from iexcelwebs.iexcel.com (unknown [216.89.130.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC12154F5 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:19:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doug@theartfiles.com) Received: from theartfiles.com (unverified [216.89.130.201]) by iexcelwebs.iexcel.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.5) with SMTP id for ; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:12:40 -0500 Message-ID: Date: 05 Apr 99 14:20:46 -0700 From: "Doug Springfield" X-Mailer: MailKing v2.0 To: Subject: Site Design Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I went to your site at http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ.html. 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Doug Springfield To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 12:57:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB54614C8F for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:57:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.164.76]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990405195637.GZCN5596385.mta1-rme@wocker>; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:56:37 +1200 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: "Jesus Rodriguez" Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:55:17 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Subject: new handbook has strange characters (was Re: ) Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: doc@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <01be7f73$c588dc40$8632b3c2@demostenes.ncsa.es> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990405195637.GZCN5596385.mta1-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 5 Apr 99, at 16:51, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > Ths links for "next", "Prev" and "Home" have a ? at left side that must > not be there. The ? simbol is at "Table of contents" in home page too. FWIW, I don't get a '?', but at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/, I see "=CC=DC=BC=A1(Table of Contents)". From http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html, I see: FreeBSD Handbook =C1=B0=CA=C7(Prev) =BC=A1=CA=C7(Next) hth. -- Dan Langille The FreeBSD Diary http://www.FreeBSDDiary.com/freebsd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 13:10:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net (ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net [198.36.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 63F1215046 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:10:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dpilgrim@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 24906 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 1999 20:08:43 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-doc@FreeBSD.org@fixme Received: (qmail 24773 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 1999 20:08:36 -0000 Received: from fdsl89.ptld.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (216.161.80.89) by ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 20:08:36 -0000 Message-ID: <3709180D.A8794E5A@uswest.net> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:07:41 -0700 From: Darren Pilgrim Organization: Neatly stacked heaps of digital chaos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey Cc: junkmale@xtra.co.nz, Bill Fumerola , Donald Wilde , FreeBSD Documenters , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Installation Guide Project [Was: Re: FreeBSD Adovcacy] References: <19990403191536.G2142@lemis.com> <19990404005224.CUBP5707006.mta2-rme@wocker> <3706CA33.986B5C15@uswest.net> <19990405115047.Q2142@lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg Lehey wrote: > > I'm going to see to it that the IGP goes through to compile a > > no-assumptions guide. I've had a very long think about the Handbook > > and incorporating the IGP with it and come to the conclusion that > > while parts of the IGP probably could fit very well with the > > Handbook, rewriting the Handbook is just not what I want to do. > > I find this sad. You'd get a lot more help and cooperation if you'd > do it in the existing framework. If you go it alone, well, you go it > alone. The original object was to create a printed booklet that could be included with the CD set, so folks wouldn't have to flip flop between systems or screens to get through the install. I just thought that making something seperate from the Handbook, then incorporating it later would be easier than writing a large set of patches. Given that there is almost no part of the Handbook that doesn't make assumptions that would be a very large patchwork indeed. If it's the only way I can get help, then I'm willing to redirect my efforts to the Handbook. > Despite what Bill says, I think you should be. There are lots of > different styles in the handbook; putting in the IGP would be an > enrichment. As I said earlier, that doesn't mean that it should not > be possible to extract the IGP as a standalone document. Why not do it the other way around? > > I plan on soliciting for volunteers in -newbies. I just want to have > > some kind of a webpage up for them to read before waving the Uncle > > Sam posters. > > It seems fashionable at the moment to believe that newbies can do > things that experienced people can't, simply because they're closer to > the problem. I have yet to see a really successful document come out > of this approach. I've found it a lot easier to let experienced > people write the documentation and have newbies review it to death. The volunteers I was referring to are folks to do just that. I know I'm going to need experienced folks. -- dpilgrim@uswest.net /\ / __ Our lies are merely the gryph@mindless.com / \/OC/URNE truth of another world ICQ: 29880099 Death is not a kill -9, just a DALnet: anim0s make world and shutdown -r now PGPKey available To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 13:15:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net (ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net [198.36.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CEBCD1536F for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:15:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dpilgrim@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 29096 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 1999 20:13:23 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-doc@FreeBSD.org@fixme Received: (qmail 29067 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 1999 20:13:22 -0000 Received: from fdsl89.ptld.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (216.161.80.89) by ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 20:13:22 -0000 Message-ID: <3709192B.D6E6F586@uswest.net> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:12:27 -0700 From: Darren Pilgrim Organization: Neatly stacked heaps of digital chaos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey Cc: junkmale@xtra.co.nz, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Installation Guide Project References: <3706CA33.986B5C15@uswest.net>; <19990405115047.Q2142@lemis.com> <19990405035957.DOSU5752963.mta2-rme@wocker> <19990405133944.Y2142@lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg Lehey wrote: > > On Monday, 5 April 1999 at 15:58:55 +1200, Dan Langille wrote: > > On 5 Apr 99, at 11:50, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > >>>> Stay the course, Darren. Talk to the -newbies and ignore the crabby, > >>>> jaded ones who've forgotten what it's like not to have a clue about > >>>> BSD. :-D > >>> > >>> I plan on soliciting for volunteers in -newbies. I just want to have > >>> some kind of a webpage up for them to read before waving the Uncle Sam > >>> posters. > >> > >> It seems fashionable at the moment to believe that newbies can do > >> things that experienced people can't, simply because they're closer to the > >> problem. I have yet to see a really successful document come out of this > >> approach. I've found it a lot easier to let experienced people write the > >> documentation and have newbies review it to death. > > > > But that's what is proposed. Letting newbies review it. > > Ah, then I misunderstood. > > > As for successful documents, and this is tongue in cheek for the > > humourless, some people, myself included, consider my website a > > success. And whilst I am a newbie with respect to FreeBSD, I'm not > > new to the computer field. I think it's horses for courses. > > Yes, I agree, your web site is a success. But it's not exactly > documentation, at least not the way I understand that Darren wants to > do it. > > > I'm all for experienced people writing documents. But, clearly, > > nobody has stepped forward before this IGP was started. Otherwise, > > we'd already have the IG. > > Right. I had intended to overhaul exactly this part of the handbook, > but beyond writing a "what to download" section for review far too > long ago now (http://www.lemis.com/handbook/what-to-download.html), I > haven't done anything. As I said before, I'm not discussing whether > it should be done, just how. I think most of the discussion has been over misunderstandings of my intentions. I'm not surpised at that, many people don't understand me. :-) If I can get over this damned infection, I hope to have a web-page ready to send to DW by the end of the week. -- dpilgrim@uswest.net /\ / __ Our lies are merely the gryph@mindless.com / \/OC/URNE truth of another world ICQ: 29880099 Death is not a kill -9, just a DALnet: anim0s make world and shutdown -r now PGPKey available To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 13:25:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net (ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net [198.36.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 01ACB15152 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:25:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dpilgrim@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 8592 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 1999 20:23:58 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-doc@FreeBSD.org@fixme Received: (qmail 8575 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 1999 20:23:57 -0000 Received: from fdsl89.ptld.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (216.161.80.89) by ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 20:23:57 -0000 Message-ID: <37091BA6.E80526DD@uswest.net> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:23:02 -0700 From: Darren Pilgrim Organization: Neatly stacked heaps of digital chaos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey Cc: junkmale@xtra.co.nz, FreeBSD Documenters Subject: Re: Another Installation Guide [was: FreeBSD Advocacy] References: <37053C70.A99BEB29@uswest.net>; <19990405164928.40818@welearn.com.au> <19990405071708.EHEJ5596385.mta1-rme@wocker> <19990405165231.O2142@lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg Lehey wrote: > On Monday, 5 April 1999 at 19:16:32 +1200, Dan Langille wrote: > > On 5 Apr 99, at 16:49, Sue Blake wrote: > > > >> Having decided to proceed, you've got a big choice to make. > >> Do you want this to be an independent effort, or a FreeBSD project? > >> There are pros and cons with each, but you can't have it both ways. > > > > This is something I may have missed before. Everyone seems to agree an IG > > is needed. We now seem only to be debating the form: should it be part of > > the Handbook or not. > > Yup, you missed it. I said it in at least 3 messages. > > > Does this mean that if the IG is not part of the Handbook, then it's > > not a FreeBSD Project? [this isn't directed necessarily at you Sue] > > Not to the same degree. Darren made it clear that he didn't like > doing it in the framework of the handbook. That doesn't mean that it > won't be gratefully accepted if he finishes it and does a good job, > just that it's not a planned project. I think Sue put the issues > pretty well. Kinda. What got to me was the idea that if I wanted any support from FreeBSD at all, I would have to abandon my original prime objective; in which case it would be more productive for me to abandon the project altogether and volunteer for the FDP. -- dpilgrim@uswest.net /\ / __ Our lies are merely the gryph@mindless.com / \/OC/URNE truth of another world ICQ: 29880099 Death is not a kill -9, just a DALnet: anim0s make world and shutdown -r now PGPKey available To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 13:32:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402A01549D for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:32:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA134654126; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:28:46 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:28:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Darren Pilgrim Cc: Greg Lehey , junkmale@xtra.co.nz, FreeBSD Documenters Subject: Re: Another Installation Guide [was: FreeBSD Advocacy] In-Reply-To: <37091BA6.E80526DD@uswest.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > Kinda. What got to me was the idea that if I wanted any support from > FreeBSD at all, I would have to abandon my original prime objective; > in which case it would be more productive for me to abandon the > project altogether and volunteer for the FDP. Important Point: I am not FreeBSD. There are ~150 other committers, I just happen to be very vocal on this issue. If you really want direction, talk to Nik. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 13:37:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net (ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net [198.36.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65810154ED for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:37:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dpilgrim@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 19257 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 1999 20:35:09 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org@fixme Received: (qmail 19242 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 1999 20:35:09 -0000 Received: from fdsl89.ptld.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (216.161.80.89) by ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 20:35:09 -0000 Message-ID: <37091E45.A374BC68@uswest.net> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:34:14 -0700 From: Darren Pilgrim Organization: Neatly stacked heaps of digital chaos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Installation Guide Project Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [crossed because there are now two cascades going] Don't reply to this message, start a new thread and keep my address out of it. I've heard the arguements, I know who's cheering me on, who thinks I'd wasting my time if I don't work with the existing framework, and who thinks my ambitions are a full of it. Now I'm going to disappear for the rest of the week so that I can devote most of my time to organizing this potential project. If someone has something new to add to the cascade, instead of reiterating previous messages, please e-mail me directly. Anyone offering help, either internal or external to the FDP, please e-mail me directly. If you don't like what I just said, I'm not listening. :-) -- dpilgrim@uswest.net /\ / __ Our lies are merely the gryph@mindless.com / \/OC/URNE truth of another world ICQ: 29880099 Death is not a kill -9, just a DALnet: anim0s make world and shutdown -r now PGPKey available To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 13:55:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F81154ED for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:55:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.58.52]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA43DF; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:53:24 +0200 Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org (abaddon@daemon [192.168.0.1]) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA74811; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:53:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3709092D.A6695E3D@thuntek.net> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:53:28 +0200 (CEST) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Donald Wilde Subject: RE: a showcase opportunity Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Rob Garrett Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 05-Apr-99 Donald Wilde wrote: > Hi, Guys! > > I have an opportunity coming up in the medium future which will be a > great chance to showcase FreeBSD and the Programmer's Doc project. > Forrest Cavalier, the creator of the ReuseRKT > (http://www.mibsoftware.com/reuse/), has been at it again. He's created > a cross-platform source tree mirroring tool called HTTPsync, and DDJ is > going to be publishing an article on it in the July issue, to hit the > stands around the beginning of June. In return for my help in promoting > his RKT site, Forrest has offered to link one or two of our showcase > projects to his site via HTTPsync. Given the traffic boost he will get > from DDJ, it will be an excellent firecracker for us as well. Sounds cool, I am currently trying to get egcs++ to work a-ok so that I can install and use everything I need in order to use DocBook for the PDP. Current things on the stack with the PDP will include standards/compliance, functions, crossreferences, manual pages. Basically this will do what the other developers forgot to document and more... --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmodai(at)wxs.nl The idea does not replace the work... Network/Security Specialist *BSD: Powered by Knowledge & Know-how To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 14: 4:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.thuntek.net (srv1.thuntek.net [206.206.98.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02091547D for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:04:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwilde1@thuntek.net) Received: from thuntek.net (abq-051.thuntek.net [207.66.52.51]) by srv1.thuntek.net (8.9.1/8.6.12TNT1.0) with ESMTP id PAA27695; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:02:26 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3709248F.292356F0@thuntek.net> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 15:01:03 -0600 From: Donald Wilde X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: a showcase opportunity References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > > On 05-Apr-99 Donald Wilde wrote: > > Hi, Guys! > > > > I have an opportunity coming up in the medium future which will be a > > great chance to showcase FreeBSD and the Programmer's Doc project. > > Forrest Cavalier, the creator of the ReuseRKT > > (http://www.mibsoftware.com/reuse/), has been at it again. He's created > > a cross-platform source tree mirroring tool called HTTPsync, and DDJ is > > going to be publishing an article on it in the July issue, to hit the > > stands around the beginning of June. In return for my help in promoting > > his RKT site, Forrest has offered to link one or two of our showcase > > projects to his site via HTTPsync. Given the traffic boost he will get > > from DDJ, it will be an excellent firecracker for us as well. > > Sounds cool, I am currently trying to get egcs++ to work a-ok so that I can > install and use everything I need in order to use DocBook for the PDP. > > Current things on the stack with the PDP will include standards/compliance, > functions, crossreferences, manual pages. > > Basically this will do what the other developers forgot to document and > more... > Which has a lot of synergy with Forrest's ReuseRKT. He's not FreeBSD-specific, but he's creating a great programmer's reference. Take a look, you'll see what I mean. Our source code is the foundation of his reference site, although it's growing very fast. -- Don Wilde "Bringing the Internet to everyone!" Wilde Media 1380 Rio Rancho Blvd. SE #117 voice: 505-771-0709 Rio Rancho, New Mexico 87124 e-mail: dwilde1@thuntek.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 14:10:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDC914E06 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:10:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.58.52]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA1A2D; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:08:05 +0200 Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org (abaddon@daemon [192.168.0.1]) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA86633; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:08:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3709248F.292356F0@thuntek.net> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 23:08:09 +0200 (CEST) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Donald Wilde Subject: Re: a showcase opportunity Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 05-Apr-99 Donald Wilde wrote: > Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: >> >> Current things on the stack with the PDP will include >> standards/compliance, functions, crossreferences, manual pages. >> >> Basically this will do what the other developers forgot to document and >> more... >> > Which has a lot of synergy with Forrest's ReuseRKT. He's not > FreeBSD-specific, but he's creating a great programmer's reference. Take > a look, you'll see what I mean. Our source code is the foundation of his > reference site, although it's growing very fast. Will do and mayhaps even contact him to discuss some stuff. Other things I might do after I have done a large part of the PDP is add NetBSD and OpenBSD differences and similarities. Think that might also be very handy to have... --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmodai(at)wxs.nl The idea does not replace the work... Network/Security Specialist *BSD: Powered by Knowledge & Know-how To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 14:33:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.thuntek.net (srv1.thuntek.net [206.206.98.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4736C1545D for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:33:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwilde1@thuntek.net) Received: from thuntek.net (abq-051.thuntek.net [207.66.52.51]) by srv1.thuntek.net (8.9.1/8.6.12TNT1.0) with ESMTP id PAA03035; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:31:24 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <37092B55.3178001B@thuntek.net> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 15:29:57 -0600 From: Donald Wilde X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: a showcase opportunity References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > > On 05-Apr-99 Donald Wilde wrote: > > Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > >> > >> Current things on the stack with the PDP will include > >> standards/compliance, functions, crossreferences, manual pages. > >> > >> Basically this will do what the other developers forgot to document and > >> more... > >> > > Which has a lot of synergy with Forrest's ReuseRKT. He's not > > FreeBSD-specific, but he's creating a great programmer's reference. Take > > a look, you'll see what I mean. Our source code is the foundation of his > > reference site, although it's growing very fast. > > Will do and mayhaps even contact him to discuss some stuff. > mibsoft@mibsoftware.com. > Other things I might do after I have done a large part of the PDP is add > NetBSD and OpenBSD differences and similarities. Think that might also be > very handy to have... > He'd be a great sounding board, he borrows extensively from all three. I agree about comparisons, I'd like to know just what it is beyond config defaults that makes OpenBSD more secure, for instance. -- Don Wilde "Bringing the Internet to everyone!" Wilde Media 1380 Rio Rancho Blvd. SE #117 voice: 505-771-0709 Rio Rancho, New Mexico 87124 e-mail: dwilde1@thuntek.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 14:53:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from xwin.nmhtech.com (xwin.nmhtech.com [208.138.46.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69701554B; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:53:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicole@xwin.nmhtech.com) Received: by xwin.nmhtech.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1796A2EE1A; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Content-Length: 2404 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37091E45.A374BC68@uswest.net> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:51:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Harrington To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: The FreeBSD Installation Guide Project- testing Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, whoever comes up with what, feel free to share your Alpha/beta with = Josef Grosch and my self. We can give it to people when they are trying to instal= l freeBSD on their systems at the Installathons and see what they have proble= ms with and report back. Nicole On 05-Apr-99 My Secret Spies Reported That Darren Pilgrim wrote: > [crossed because there are now two cascades going] >=20 > Don't reply to this message, start a new thread and keep my address > out of it. >=20 > I've heard the arguements, I know who's cheering me on, who thinks I'd > wasting my time if I don't work with the existing framework, and who > thinks my ambitions are a full of it. Now I'm going to disappear for > the rest of the week so that I can devote most of my time to > organizing this potential project. If someone has something new to > add to the cascade, instead of reiterating previous messages, please > e-mail me directly. Anyone offering help, either internal or external > to the FDP, please e-mail me directly. >=20 > If you don't like what I just said, I'm not listening. :-) >=20 > --=20 > dpilgrim@uswest.net /\ / __ Our lies are merely the > gryph@mindless.com / \/OC/URNE truth of another world > ICQ: 29880099 Death is not a kill -9, just a =20 > DALnet: anim0s make world and shutdown -r now PGPKey available >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message |\ __ /| (`\ =20 | o_o |__ ) ) =20 // \\ =20 nicole@nmhtech.com | http://www.webweaver.net/ webmistress@dangermouse.org | http://www.dangermouse.org -------------------------(((---(((----------------------- =20 - Powered by Coka Cola and FreeBSD - - Stong enough for a man - But made for a Woman - =20 - I'm not ADD - I'm just Multithreaded - - Microsoft: What bug would you like today? - ---------------------------------------------------------- SYSADMIN(1) Sysadmin is the keeper of all things computer, is generally harangued, must= be=20 supplied with caffeine, chocolate, and sushi in order to function=20 properly,=20 cannot be exposed to direct sunlight, and must not be allowed to have a lif= e. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 15:11:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE4114CFE; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:11:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id XAA10727; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:05:37 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:05:36 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Darren Pilgrim Cc: Greg Lehey , junkmale@xtra.co.nz, FreeBSD Documenters , advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Another Installation Guide [was: FreeBSD Advocacy] Message-ID: <19990405230536.A6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <37053C70.A99BEB29@uswest.net>; <19990405164928.40818@welearn.com.au> <19990405071708.EHEJ5596385.mta1-rme@wocker> <19990405165231.O2142@lemis.com> <37091BA6.E80526DD@uswest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <37091BA6.E80526DD@uswest.net>; from Darren Pilgrim on Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 01:23:02PM -0700 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How do, [ I've cc'd this to -advocacy, where a lot of the discussion still seems to be happening ] On Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 01:23:02PM -0700, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > Kinda. What got to me was the idea that if I wanted any support from > FreeBSD at all, I would have to abandon my original prime objective; > in which case it would be more productive for me to abandon the > project altogether and volunteer for the FDP. I've been trying to stay out of this, because I know that I'll only end up writing an incredibly lengthy e-mail that'll just spawn another round of long messages. But everyone else is having their two cents (or whatever the local denomination is), so I may as well have a go. First off, being listed as the Doc. Proj. Manager in the Handbook hasn't imbued me with some mystical sense of what's the right thing to do, and I'm willing to be argued out of most of what follows, if the arguments are good enough, obviously. Let me see if I can summarise; you've decided that the FreeBSD documentation set is sadly lacking in easy to follow installation instructions, and you want to fill this gap. Several other people have said (and I'm paraphrasing) "You can't do this unless you do it in the Handbook, we won't help you unless you put it in the Handbook, it won't be anything to do with FreeBSD unless it goes in the Handbook." You think this is a bad idea, and have almost decided to go off and code for Microsoft (or something like that). Possibly a touch over the top, but that's pretty much what it's coming across as. :-) Right. First things first. Thanks for volunteering to write documentation. *Any* documentation. Documentation is massively underrated by many people, and we need it, the more the better. Secondly, the Handbook and the FAQ are not the be-all and end-all of online FreeBSD documentation. The FreeBSD diary demonstrates this point well, as does the work over at vmunix.com, as do the various other tutorials that are linked to on the website (and some that, doubtless, are not linked to from the website). There's definitely room for material that does not fit within the framework of the FAQ and the Handbook. It's entirely possible that this installation guide falls into that category. If you do decide that this should be a standalone work, don't think that you won't get any support from this (and other) lists. There's no rule that says "If it's not on www.freebsd.org then we don't want to know". So, if you want to work on this in your own space, and with your own ideas that's great. Solicit help in here (and on other, appropriate, lists). Post URLs to work in progress, invite comments, and all the other stuff you'll need to do to get a polished piece of work. And if anyone complains about it not being a part of the Handbook, point 'em my way :-) Having said all that, you might want to reconsider. Or at least consider a little bit longer. Here are some of the attractions that making this part of the Handbook can bring you; * It's part of the main online resource for FreeBSD. Not the only resource, but certainly the main one. As such, the Handbook needs good documentation, and good documentation needs an audience. The two would fit well together. * If you make it a part of the Handbook, it will automatically be mirrored over umpteen different web servers all round the world. * As part of the Handbook, it will go on to all the FreeBSD CDs produced by Walnut Creek. * As part of the Handbook, it will be translated in to different languages by the FreeBSD translation teams -- Spanish, Japanese, French, German, to name but a few. * You get commit access to the FreeBSD tree[1] * You get to take advantage of the technology I've been integrating for the past few months, allowing your carefully chosen words of wisdom to be distributed as HTML, Postscript, PDF, RTF, DOC, . . . * You get the send-pr system for people to submit changes to it to you. * When you decide to take a break for a bit, other people can keep maintaining it. There's probably more, but they're the one's I can think of at this time of night. Of course, the bottom line is that it's your decision. I'd prefer it if you worked within the framework of the Handbook (if nothing else, it means one more person who knows how the Handbook works, and can commit other people's changes, so spreading the workload around a bit more). But no one here can force you to. N [1] Well, not immediately. Normally, it works something like this. You send me (or someone else) some patches to the Handbook. We apply them. They apply cleanly. We do this again. And again. And again. Pretty soon I've got bored of applying all these patches myself when they work first time, and I pester Jordan or one of of the others to give you a login on freefall and commit rights. -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 15:24:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0227214DC8; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:24:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA62310; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:20:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Nik Clayton Cc: Darren Pilgrim , Greg Lehey , junkmale@xtra.co.nz, FreeBSD Documenters , advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Another Installation Guide [was: FreeBSD Advocacy] In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 05 Apr 1999 23:05:36 BST." <19990405230536.A6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 15:20:44 -0700 Message-ID: <62308.923350844@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Having said all that, you might want to reconsider. Or at least consider > a little bit longer. Here are some of the attractions that making this > part of the Handbook can bring you; > > Let me just add one more, if I might, and hope that it doesn't make things even more difficult rather than less so: Walnut Creek CDROM would also like to hire someone, either remotely or on-site, to start seriously working to improve the handbook. We'd like to publish it, you see, but what's there just isn't publishable yet and it NEEDS to be published if we're to create a "feedback loop" where some number of people are actually getting revenue from it and thus compelled to actively improve the thing. The Handbook hasn't really had much in the way of active content addition to it for some time and I think this is the only way forward for it. Apathy sure doesn't seem to be working. So, by stepping up to the plate with the handbook and doing a credible job in improving it for long enough to convince the skeptics (me) of your sincerity and skill, you also run the additional risk of being offered the task as a paying job, and how's that for incentive. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 15:27:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net (ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net [198.36.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4399C14DC8 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:27:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dpilgrim@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 5039 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 1999 22:25:27 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-doc@FreeBSD.org@fixme Received: (qmail 4995 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 1999 22:25:25 -0000 Received: from fdsl89.ptld.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (216.161.80.89) by ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 22:25:25 -0000 Message-ID: <3709381F.99547C6F@uswest.net> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 15:24:31 -0700 From: Darren Pilgrim Organization: Neatly stacked heaps of digital chaos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nik Clayton Cc: Greg Lehey , junkmale@xtra.co.nz, FreeBSD Documenters , advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Another Installation Guide [was: FreeBSD Advocacy] References: <37053C70.A99BEB29@uswest.net>; <19990405164928.40818@welearn.com.au> <19990405071708.EHEJ5596385.mta1-rme@wocker> <19990405165231.O2142@lemis.com> <37091BA6.E80526DD@uswest.net> <19990405230536.A6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton wrote: > > How do, > > [ I've cc'd this to -advocacy, where a lot of the discussion still seems > to be happening ] > > On Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 01:23:02PM -0700, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > > Kinda. What got to me was the idea that if I wanted any support from > > FreeBSD at all, I would have to abandon my original prime objective; > > in which case it would be more productive for me to abandon the > > project altogether and volunteer for the FDP. > > I've been trying to stay out of this, because I know that I'll only end > up writing an incredibly lengthy e-mail that'll just spawn another > round of long messages. But everyone else is having their two cents > (or whatever the local denomination is), so I may as well have a go. Lengthy? Why didn't anyone tell me any of this sooner? Anyway, working on the Handbook isn't out of the question, just not the first part of the project as_I_see_it_. It wouldn't surprise me if at least some part of the project's product gets incorporated into the Handbook. If it does, it only makes sense that I be part of that process as well. If it's going to replace/supplement anything, it would be Jordan's booklet that comes with the CD set, that is, after all, my original intention. As for the "disappearing acting" people think I'm going to pull (partly due to my e-mail about not replying to messages anymore), I'm going to return, I just want to isolate myself long enough to think straight, get my ideas on paper, then possibly revise them per the suggestions of others. But I can't do that at all if I'm continuing the cascades. -- dpilgrim@uswest.net /\ / __ Our lies are merely the gryph@mindless.com / \/OC/URNE truth of another world ICQ: 29880099 Death is not a kill -9, just a DALnet: anim0s make world and shutdown -r now PGPKey available To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 15:51:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16181532D for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:51:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id XAA15736 for doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:46:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:46:15 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Organisation change for the Handbook Message-ID: <19990405234615.B6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, People seem to be a bit more active on this list recently, so I'm reposting something from November last year. Now that the DocBook conversion is done I'm looking at this in more detail, and would appreciate comments. Sean Kelly, Jordan, Eivind, and Sue Blake[1] will recognise some of this. Also, this is long, sorry about that. N [1] Do you know you've arrived in the FreeBSD project when people just refer to you by your first name? ========================================================================= Handbook Reorganisation The basic idea is simple. The Handbook has grown fairly organically, and can be reorganised. This reorganisation should reflect how people use the Handbook, and allow for currently missing content to be slotted in more easily. This should also make it easier for projects, such as "FreeBSD Installation Guide" or the "Programmers Documentation Project" to slip right in to this framework. If necessary, people can maintain their own books out of the main FreeBSD doc tree, while still maintaining the FreeBSD look and feel and integration with the rest of the docs (if they want to, of course). The Handbook's target audience needs to be understood. The Handbook should be catering for the spectrum of people who, at one end, have never heard of Unix or FreeBSD before through to those people who are very familiar with FreeBSD, but who need a useful reference, or want to know as much as possible about a topic they haven't yet covered (for example, printing). This is likely to yield quite a schizophrenic document unless tackled carefully. The gist of my proposal is to split the Handbook up in to a number of smaller books, containing between 70-150 'pages'. These would then truly be *hand*books. Each book should tackle one topic, and not repeat information from one of the other books. For example, if a book's topic requires that the reader reconfigure their kernel (for example, Firewalls), they should be directed to the appropriate part of the "Configuring FreeBSD" book, instead of repeating that information there. A seasoned system administrator will be able to go to whichever book tackles the task they are trying to complete, without getting bogged down in extraneous detail. Someone new to FreeBSD will be told "Read these 'x' books first (which cover installation and configuration) and then go and read whichever of the other books talk about what you are interested in" to bring them up to speed. Note that it should be assumed that the reader has at least some OS experience. I think it is biting off more than we can chew if we assume we need to teach OS basics as well (although that could be a topic for another book in the series, which would give the user enough knowledge to then move on to some of the others). Each book conforms to a similar organisation. They begin with an overview explaining what will be tackled by that book, and what the user will be able to do when they have completed the book. Any prerequisite knowledge that the user must have is also outlined here. The rest of the book then works through whatever that section is talking about, until the user has done whatever it is they want to do. In general, if the section requires hardware ("Printing", "Modems", "Ethernet". . .) then the installation and configuration of that hardware is covered first -- this should cover the physical installation of the hardware ("Plug in your ethernet card in accordance with the manufacturers instructions") and the configuration necessary to get FreeBSD to recognise the hardware ("Add the line "device ..." to your kernel config file and rebuild your kernel. If you don't know what this means then please read the "Configuring your kernel" book"). Then the software is covered. In some cases this might include several different applications. Finally, a "Further reading" section can cover books, magazines, web sites, and other books in the series. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Here's how I see the new books shaping up. Note that a lot of the content doesn't exist yet. My comments are bracketed by '[' and ']' after each book. Note that the ordering of books here is *not* implying an order in which people should be expected to read them. Book 0: Read This First Conventions in this documentation (foreward? preface?) Introduction Differences from. . . - DOS - Linux - Solaris - SunOS - BSDi - NetBSD - OpenBSD Obtaining FreeBSD Installing FreeBSD - PC Hardware Compatibility Unix Basics [ This is the one that everyone should read first. There's no reason why the "Installing FreeBSD" and "Unix Basics" chapters couldn't be separate books in their own right. ] Book 1: Configuring FreeBSD Overview - What you can configure Making configuration changes - At boot time (start up) - At run time - In the kernel Further reading [ If you want to configure FreeBSD then read this. /etc/rc.conf, rc.local, /usr/local/etc/rc.d/*, how to configure a new kernel, sysctl and other tunables. This talks about the process, rather than how you would configure any particular option. Another book might say "Add the foo device to the kernel", this book explains how to do that. ] Book 2: Installing Applications Using the ports collection to install applications Installing applications by hand [ Self evident ] Book 3: Monitoring and limiting users Overview login.conf Disk quotas Process accounting Further reading [ Self evident ] Book 4: Security Overview S/Key Kerberos SSH Further reading - Firewalls [ Self evident. Content shamelessly taken from the security section in the existing Handbook ] Book 5: The text console Overview Syscons - Virtual terminals - Fonts - Using the mouse with syscons PCVT Further reading [ Doesn't currently exist, probably should do. ] Book 6: Printing Overview Hardware setup The LPD Spooler ... The LPNG Spooler ... Printing to printers on other computers - Windows NT - Linux - Macintosh Further reading [ Shamelessly taken from existing Handbook ] Book 7: Using modems and null modems (serial connections) Overview Before using a modem with FreeBSD Using a modem/serial line to talk to remote hosts Further reading [ Based on existing content in the Handbook ] Book 8: TCP/IP Networking (the Internet) Overview - IP addresses, netmasks - Gateways and routing TCP/IP - PPP - SLIP - Ethernet DNS NIS Security (firewalls) Further reading [ A reordering, and an addition to, existing content ] Book 9: Electronic Mail Servers Overview SMTP - Sendmail - Qmail POP IMAP Further reading [ Doesn't currently exist. Would explain the basics of SMTP, what an MTA does, and how to use the popular ones ] Book 10: Electronic Mail Clients Overview FreeBSD - Mutt - Elm - XFmail - PINE Windows - Eudora Macintosh - Eudora Further reading [ Doesn't currently exist. This is where the Mutt/Pine/rmail fanatics get to fight it out with one another. Include chapters explaining how to configure common MUAs on other platforms to read their mail from FreeBSD ] Book 11: File sharing Overview NFS SMB Coda Appletalk Further reading [ Self evident ] Book 12: Time/date synchronization Overview - NTP Being a time server Synchronising from a time server Synchronising NT to FreeBSD Synchronising MacOS to FreeBSD Further reading [ Self evident ] Book 13: X11 Overview XFree86 / XiG Window Managers Useful X applications Further reading [ Self evident ] Book 14: Applications Overview Mathematica Doom Quake Further reading [ For those applications that crop up a lot in -questions, or where someone is motivated enough to write something. Could probably include StarOffice and Word Perfect in this list as well. ] Book 15: Staying up to date with FreeBSD Overview - Choosing -current? - Choosing -stable? Getting the source - FTP - CVSup - CTM Updating your system ('make world') Further reading [ Mostly based on current Handbook content ] Book 16: Emulation Overview Linux SCO DOS - dosemu - pcemu Further reading [ A reorganisation and addition to current content ] Book 17: Localisation Overview Russian German Further reading [ From the existing Handbook ] Book 18: Contributing to FreeBSD Overview - What is needed? Bug reports Documentation Code - Source tree guidelines and policies - Changes to existing code - New code - FreeBSD Internals - Kernel debugging Application ports Hardware/architecture ports Money, hardware, or Internet access The committers guide [ From the existing Handbook ] Appendices Bibliography Resources on the Internet FreeBSD Project Staff Contributors - Donors Gallery - Derived Software Contributors - Additional FreeBSD Contributors - 386BSD Patch Kit Contributors PGP Keys [ This will, I think, be split up. Most of the new books will need their own biblios, so that section will probably disappear, as will the "Resources on the Internet" section. PGP Keys might move to "Security" as well. ] Thanks for reading this far. There are two more books at the back of my mind that aren't on that list yet. The first is the "Doc. Proj. primer". If you take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/primer/, that's pretty much what I'm expecting one of these books to look like[1] (in terms of amount of content, level it's aimed at, and so on). The second is the Committers Guide. This might be part of the "Contributing to FreeBSD" book, or it might be one on its own. I'm not sure yet. Comments welcomed, N [1] Yes, I know I've got to commit the primer to the main tree. After not staring at it for a couple of months I'm rewriting a few bits that are either confusing or wrong prior to committing. Expect it by the end of this week. -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 15:55:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45021519C for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:55:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA64733; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:53:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Organisation change for the Handbook In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 05 Apr 1999 23:46:15 BST." <19990405234615.B6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 15:53:13 -0700 Message-ID: <64731.923352793@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > [1] Do you know you've arrived in the FreeBSD project when people just > refer to you by your first name? No, you just know that your first name is still unique enough to make that even possible. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 16:30:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404FC153A8 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:30:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.164.76]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990405232957.IVHP5596385.mta1-rme@wocker>; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:29:57 +1200 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Nik Clayton Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:28:37 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Organisation change for the Handbook Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: doc@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <19990405234615.B6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990405232957.IVHP5596385.mta1-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 5 Apr 99, at 23:46, Nik Clayton wrote: > People seem to be a bit more active on this list recently, so I'm > reposting something from November last year. Now that the DocBook > conversion is done I'm looking at this in more detail, and would > appreciate comments. I missed the original post as I was on hoilday and unsubscribed. I'm sorry I missed it back then. > The Handbook's target audience needs to be understood. The Handbook > should be catering for the spectrum of people who, at one end, have > never heard of Unix or FreeBSD before through to those people who are > very familiar with FreeBSD, but who need a useful reference, or want to > know as much as possible about a topic they haven't yet covered (for > example, printing). This is great! And what Darren was talking about. > Note that it should be assumed that the reader has at least some OS > experience. I think it is biting off more than we can chew if we assume > we need to teach OS basics as well (although that could be a topic for > another book in the series, which would give the user enough knowledge > to then move on to some of the others). That doesn't mean we can't have a newbie section that says here's the editor, here's the basic commands, etc. One page intro. We are not here to educate computer novices. Merely FreeBSD novices. > Here's how I see the new books shaping up. Note that a lot of the > content doesn't exist yet. My comments are bracketed by '[' and ']' > after each book. What I like about it is that each section is *not* self contained. That allows the author of one section to refer to existing work (e.g. Add the IPFILTER option to your kernel). It makes the writing much easier. Not to mention the reading. -- Dan Langille The FreeBSD Diary http://www.FreeBSDDiary.com/freebsd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 18: 2: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6291014C94 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:01:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id SAA94735; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F6F14C4B for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:54:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from naddy@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from mips.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id CAA22200 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 02:53:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from naddy@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de ([193.197.90.235]) by mips.rhein-neckar.de with esmtp id m10UJ4e-000WyXC (Debian Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #2); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 01:46:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from naddy@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA19122; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 01:45:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from naddy) Message-Id: <199904052345.BAA19122@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 01:45:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Christian Weisgerber Reply-To: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/10973: Patch: Have fsdb(8) man page refer correctly to editline(3) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 10973 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Patch: Have fsdb(8) man page refer correctly to editline(3) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Apr 5 18:00:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Christian Weisgerber >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The fsdb(8) man page refers to libedit(3), which doesn't exist, rather than editline(3). >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- fsdb.8.orig Tue Apr 6 01:34:29 1999 +++ fsdb.8 Tue Apr 6 01:32:56 1999 @@ -53,7 +53,7 @@ is the currently selected i-number. The initial selected inode is the root of the filesystem (i-number 2). The command processor uses the -.Xr libedit 3 +.Xr editline 3 library, so you can use command line editing to reduce typing if desired. When you exit the command loop, the file system superblock is marked dirty and any buffered blocks are written to the file system. @@ -72,7 +72,7 @@ .El .Sh COMMANDS Besides the built-in -.Xr libedit 3 +.Xr editline 3 commands, .Nm supports these commands: @@ -208,7 +208,7 @@ Exit the program. .El .Sh SEE ALSO -.Xr libedit 3 , +.Xr editline 3 , .Xr fs 5 , .Xr clri 8 , .Xr fsck 8 @@ -221,10 +221,6 @@ There are a bunch of other things that you might want to do which .Nm doesn't implement. -.br -The -.Xr libedit 3 -reference page is not yet written. .Sh HISTORY .Nm Fsdb uses the source code for >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 20:44:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (stampede.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.45.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2BA14E81; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 20:44:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from bubble.didi.com (sji-ca12-101.ix.netcom.com [205.186.214.229]) by stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA28459; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 20:42:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by bubble.didi.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) id UAA06551; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 20:42:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 20:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904060342.UAA06551@bubble.didi.com> X-Authentication-Warning: bubble.didi.com: asami set sender to asami@cs.berkeley.edu using -f To: nik@freebsd.org Cc: doc@freebsd.org, br@stiller.netland.inka.de Subject: print/teTeX-beta port From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Nik, Did you get this to build? Mine dies with this: === : gmake[2]: Entering directory `/b/ports/print/teTeX-beta/work/teTeX-0.9/texk/oxdvik' cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I/b/local/include/w3c-libwww -DHAVE_LIBWWW -DHAVE_WWWLIB_H -DPS_GS -I/usr/X11R6/include -DOmega -I.. -I./.. -O -pipe -c xdvi.c In file included from /b/local/include/w3c-libwww/WWWXML.h:41, from /b/local/include/w3c-libwww/HTInit.h:119, from /b/local/include/w3c-libwww/WWWInit.h:67, from xdvi.c:94: /b/local/include/w3c-libwww/HTXML.h:37: xmlparse.h: No such file or directory : === among other things. A simple grep doesn't show an xmlparse.h in any of the PLISTs in the entire ports tree. You can find the full log in http://bento.freebsd.org/~asami/errorlogs/3-latest/teTeX-0.9-981113.log -W To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 4: 3:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECCD0150FE; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 04:03:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from br@netland.inka.de) Received: from stiller.netland.inka.de by mail.inka.de with uucp (rmailwrap 0.4) id 10UTbt-0006BT-00; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:01:37 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stiller.netland.inka.de (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA33844; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:43:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from br@netland.inka.de) Message-Id: <199904061043.MAA33844@stiller.netland.inka.de> To: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi Asami) Cc: nik@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: print/teTeX-beta port In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 05 Apr 1999 20:42:26 PDT." <199904060342.UAA06551@bubble.didi.com> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:43:21 +0200 From: Bernd Rosauer Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Satoshi Asami: > Did you get this to build? Mine dies with this: > > === > : > gmake[2]: Entering directory `/b/ports/print/teTeX-beta/work/teTeX-0.9/texk/o xdvik' > cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I/b/local/include/w3c-libwww -DHAVE_LIBWWW -DHAV E_WWWLIB_H -DPS_GS -I/usr/X11R6/include -DOmega -I.. -I./.. -O -pipe -c xdvi.c > In file included from /b/local/include/w3c-libwww/WWWXML.h:41, > from /b/local/include/w3c-libwww/HTInit.h:119, > from /b/local/include/w3c-libwww/WWWInit.h:67, > from xdvi.c:94: > /b/local/include/w3c-libwww/HTXML.h:37: xmlparse.h: No such file or directory > [...] I would really prefer to not have to touch teTeX-0.9-981113 anymore. Please wait for my port of teTeX-0.9-RELEASE (or teTeX-1.0, whichever version number Thomas Esser will prefer to give to teTeX-0.9-non-beta). This distribution should hit earth really soon now. -Bernd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 8: 8:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B7214C28 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:08:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA150221097; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:04:57 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:04:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Organisation change for the Handbook In-Reply-To: <64731.923352793@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > [1] Do you know you've arrived in the FreeBSD project when people just > > refer to you by your first name? > > No, you just know that your first name is still unique enough to make > that even possible. :-) My name is ambiguous even with a first name and last initial. Sigh. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 8:12: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.thuntek.net (srv1.thuntek.net [206.206.98.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA1CB14C8A for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:12:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwilde1@thuntek.net) Received: from thuntek.net (abq-044.thuntek.net [207.66.52.44]) by srv1.thuntek.net (8.9.1/8.6.12TNT1.0) with ESMTP id JAA16916; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:09:42 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <370A2356.58423B57@thuntek.net> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 09:08:06 -0600 From: Donald Wilde X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Fumerola Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Organisation change for the Handbook References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bill Fumerola wrote: > My name is ambiguous even with a first name and last initial. Sigh. > Yah, Bill, better always use your last initial or somebody might associate you with those _other_ Bill's that are giving the name a very _bad_ reputation... ;-) -- Don Wilde "Bringing the Internet to everyone!" Wilde Media 1380 Rio Rancho Blvd. SE #117 voice: 505-771-0709 Rio Rancho, New Mexico 87124 e-mail: dwilde1@thuntek.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 8:20:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D451566C for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:20:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA150481824; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:17:04 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:17:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Donald Wilde Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Organisation change for the Handbook In-Reply-To: <370A2356.58423B57@thuntek.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Donald Wilde wrote: > Bill Fumerola wrote: > > My name is ambiguous even with a first name and last initial. Sigh. > > > Yah, Bill, better always use your last initial or somebody might > associate you with those _other_ Bill's that are giving the name a very > _bad_ reputation... ;-) Bill F{umerola,enner} = {billf,fenner}@FreeBSD.org I have to go full name. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 9:22:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (mail.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5082D1500A for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:22:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kelly@plutotech.com) Received: from plutotech.com (kelly@tampopo.plutotech.com [206.168.67.161]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA30969; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:20:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from kelly@plutotech.com) Message-ID: <370A3434.26DB3045@plutotech.com> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 10:20:04 -0600 From: Sean Kelly Organization: Pluto Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Organisation change for the Handbook References: <19990405234615.B6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Right, now that we've distracted people away from the handbook reorgani[sz]ation, let's give it another go. I just want to reiterate some of my views from last time, change some, and add some new ones: > The basic idea is simple. The Handbook has grown fairly organically, and > can be reorganised. Merely because we can do a thing does not mean we must do that thing! (Bonus points to whoever recognizes the line and the movie.) But, in this case, the organic development was good in order to pound out a handbook. Now that we've got a sizeable amount of material, I agree that it's time to put it into a coherent structure. > If necessary, people can maintain their own books out of the > main FreeBSD doc tree, while still maintaining the FreeBSD look and feel and > integration with the rest of the docs (if they want to, of course). They better ... or else! :-) > The Handbook's target audience needs to be understood. The Handbook should > be catering for the spectrum of people who, at one end, have never heard of > Unix or FreeBSD before through to those people who are very familiar with > FreeBSD, but who need a useful reference, or want to know as much as > possible about a topic they haven't yet covered (for example, printing). Writing and/or reorganizing for an audience that exists at both ends of the spectrum is going to be a challenge. Knuth failed to do this effectively at all in his "TeXBook." We know one approach to avoid, at least. But is there a decent approach? > This is likely to yield quite a schizophrenic document unless tackled > carefully. Uh, I basically just said that. :-) > The gist of my proposal is to split the Handbook up in to a number of > smaller books, containing between 70-150 'pages'. These would then truly be > *hand*books. Each book should tackle one topic, and not repeat information > from one of the other books. For example, if a book's topic requires that > the reader reconfigure their kernel (for example, Firewalls), they should be > directed to the appropriate part of the "Configuring FreeBSD" book, instead > of repeating that information there. I mostly agree. In particular, kernel configuration is one of out better chapters in the current handbook. Yet some amount of kernel configuration appears in nearly all the other chapters: in networking on setting up the kernel with an Ethernet controller; in printing on setting up the kernel for parallel ports; etc. I think the terminology is just tripping me up, here: are these really separate books? Will these be toplevel Docbook "book" elements? I'm wondering if there exists enough material in each book to warrant a book, and thence a collection for all of our documentation. > [ new organization ] Okay, I'm warming up to the idea now. In particular, "Unix Basics" ought to be its own book. A Unix expert doesn't need all that extra material if s/he just wants to know how to install FreeBSD. Some of the material for "the text console" does exist "off-site." I remember someone writing a tutorial on setting up fonts, mouse, etc. Does anyone have the URL? Finally, don't forget that we'll need a separate book that's a compiled index to the whole collection. Best, --Sean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 10:12: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DEB15097 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:11:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id KAA74140; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904061710.KAA74140@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: From: Tom Hukins Subject: Re: docs/10182: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=5038 Reply-To: Tom Hukins Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/10182; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Hukins To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/10182: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=5038 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:48:31 +0100 Anders Nordby wrote: > Why is there a HTML link inside the uuencoded data on this page? > It seems you're parsing text with a # and a number after it as a > HTML-link, which isn't very good for encoded data like that. ;) This is due to the PR reference matching regexp in query-pr.cgi. Line 206 of query-pr.cgi begins: $line =~ s%(\WPR[:s# \t]+)([a-z386]+\/)?([0-9]+) The uuencoded text contains the string PR#63, which query-pr.cgi assumes is a reference to another PR. The script could be modified to ignore uuencoded data, but the problem would still occur if someone includes the string PR#63 or similar in a patch, for example. I suggest the best way to fix this might be for query-pr.cgi to have an "as_text" option which doesn't do any special parsing of PRs. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 10:12: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30E915671 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:11:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id KAA74145; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904061710.KAA74145@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: From: Tom Hukins Subject: Re: docs/10099: Building the Web site without a local CVS repository Reply-To: Tom Hukins Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/10099; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Hukins To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Subject: Re: docs/10099: Building the Web site without a local CVS repository Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:41:29 +0100 On Sun, Feb 14, 1999 at 06:12:51PM -0000, I wrote: > > The build process for the FreeBSD Web site relies on a copy of the > CVS repository. However, the data extracted will also be present on > machines which use CVSup to collect the ports tree. There have been some changes to the Web site recently. I have updated my patch accordingly. I have been using this patch successfully for almost 2 months now. Is there any chance it might being committed soon? Regards, Tom --- en/copyright/Makefile.orig Sat Oct 17 11:18:42 1998 +++ en/copyright/Makefile Sun Feb 14 18:00:47 1999 @@ -16,7 +16,12 @@ # FreeBSD Ports redistribution restrictions LEGAL= LEGAL CLEANFILES+= ${LEGAL} +.if defined(NOCVS) +${LEGAL}: $${PORTSBASE}/ports/LEGAL + cp ${PORTSBASE}/ports/LEGAL LEGAL +.else ${LEGAL}: $${CVSROOT}/ports/LEGAL,v co -q -p ${.ALLSRC} > ${.TARGET} +.endif .include "../web.mk" --- en/web.mk.orig Sun Oct 4 14:25:30 1998 +++ en/web.mk Sun Feb 14 17:55:21 1999 @@ -43,6 +43,11 @@ COPY= -C +# +# Where the ports live, if CVS isn't used (ie. NOCVS is defined) +# +PORTSBASE?= /usr + ################################################################## # Transformation rules --- en/ports/Makefile.orig Sun Mar 14 14:41:31 1999 +++ en/ports/Makefile Tue Apr 6 16:14:36 1999 @@ -24,6 +24,16 @@ cvswww= $${CVSROOT}/${PWWW},v _ALLINSTALL= packages.exists ${INDEX} ${Y2K} ${WWW} +.if defined(NOCVS) +${INDEX}: $${PORTSBASE}/${PINDEX} + cp ${PORTSBASE}/${PINDEX} ${INDEX} + +${Y2K}: $${PORTSBASE}/${PY2K} + cp ${PORTSBASE}/${PY2K} ${Y2K} + +${WWW}: $${PORTSBASE}/${PWWW} + cp ${PORTSBASE}/${PWWW} ${WWW} +.else ${INDEX}: ${cvsindex} cvs -QR co -p ${PINDEX} > ${INDEX} @@ -32,12 +42,17 @@ ${WWW}: ${cvswww} cvs -QR co -p ${PWWW} > ${WWW} +.endif # build the list of available packages only on the # main FreeBSD machines hostname!= hostname +.if defined(NOCVS) +packages.exists: +.else packages.exists: ${cvsindex} ${cvsy2k} ${cvswww} +.endif .if ${hostname} == "hub.freebsd.org" || ${hostname} == "freefall.freebsd.org" sh ${.CURDIR}/packages > ${.TARGET} .else To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 10:32:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9210515214 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:32:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmlb@ragnet.demon.co.uk) Received: from [158.152.46.40] (helo=ragnet.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10UZgF-0004MI-0A; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:30:31 +0000 Received: from dmlb by ragnet.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10UZ2x-000Arq-00; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:49:55 +0100 Content-Length: 947 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990405234615.B6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 17:49:55 +0100 (BST) From: Duncan Barclay To: Nik Clayton Subject: RE: Organisation change for the Handbook Cc: doc@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 05-Apr-99 Nik Clayton wrote: > Hi folks, > > People seem to be a bit more active on this list recently, so I'm reposting > something from November last year. Now that the DocBook conversion is > done I'm looking at this in more detail, and would appreciate comments. > > Sean Kelly, Jordan, Eivind, and Sue Blake[1] will recognise some of this. > > Also, this is long, sorry about that. > > N [books removed...] Minor nits - no exim in the MTAs and Usenet completely missing (shameless plug - inn primer/setup stuff is available from http://www.ragnet.demon.co.uk/mynews/ and I'm happy to work on it so that it fits your new handbook framework.) Duncan ___ _____________________________________________________________________ Duncan Barclay | God smiles upon the little children, dmlb@ragnet.demon.co.uk | the alcoholics, and the permanently stoned. ________________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 11:39:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.thuntek.net (srv1.thuntek.net [206.206.98.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE56156CA for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:39:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwilde1@thuntek.net) Received: from thuntek.net (abq-152.thuntek.net [207.66.52.152]) by srv1.thuntek.net (8.9.1/8.6.12TNT1.0) with ESMTP id MAA12623 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:37:05 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <370A53F5.CF72193C@thuntek.net> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:35:34 -0600 From: Donald Wilde X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: DocProj build Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In trying to establish the tools to be able to understand and work with you guys, I set out to install DocProj-1.0. Failing the first time, I saw Nik's note about teTeX-beta, so I went back and removed my old teTeX. Unfortunately, the new one bombs. There's one 'error 1' in the make, but it doesn't "Stop." when I tried to reproduce it, the make doesn't report any errors. Make install, however, bombs, and I'm not sure why. I'm trying again. My system is 3.1-STABLE as of about 2 weeks ago. (#5 Sun March 21) -- Don Wilde "Bringing the Internet to everyone!" Wilde Media 1380 Rio Rancho Blvd. SE #117 voice: 505-771-0709 Rio Rancho, New Mexico 87124 e-mail: dwilde1@thuntek.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 12: 7:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.thuntek.net (srv1.thuntek.net [206.206.98.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9584114F5B for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:07:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwilde1@thuntek.net) Received: from thuntek.net (abq-029.thuntek.net [207.66.52.29]) by srv1.thuntek.net (8.9.1/8.6.12TNT1.0) with ESMTP id NAA19796 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:05:36 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <370A5AA5.66E8559A@thuntek.net> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 13:04:05 -0600 From: Donald Wilde X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DocProj build Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The make error is: gmake[2]: *** [xdvi.o] Error 1. followed by two 'leaving directory' entries. Mean anything to anybody? -- Don Wilde "Bringing the Internet to everyone!" Wilde Media 1380 Rio Rancho Blvd. SE #117 voice: 505-771-0709 Rio Rancho, New Mexico 87124 e-mail: dwilde1@thuntek.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 12:10:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9332C14F5B for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:10:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA154815637; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:07:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:07:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Donald Wilde Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DocProj build In-Reply-To: <370A5AA5.66E8559A@thuntek.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Donald Wilde wrote: > > > The make error is: > > gmake[2]: *** [xdvi.o] Error 1. > > followed by two 'leaving directory' entries. Mean anything to anybody? (1) The error that CAUSED that 'error 1' would help except.... (2) There are known bugs in the teTeX port right now, and a new release should come out Real Soon Now. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 12:11:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (mail.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A93014FFC for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:11:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kelly@plutotech.com) Received: from plutotech.com (kelly@tampopo.plutotech.com [206.168.67.161]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA36481; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:09:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from kelly@plutotech.com) Message-ID: <370A5BD9.CF27C2BD@plutotech.com> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 13:09:13 -0600 From: Sean Kelly Organization: Pluto Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Donald Wilde Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DocProj build References: <370A5AA5.66E8559A@thuntek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > gmake[2]: *** [xdvi.o] Error 1. > > followed by two 'leaving directory' entries. Mean anything to anybody? Look for another error before this one: this indicates that there was some problem compiling xdvi.c (or xdvi.cc) into xdvi.o. Try to find that error, as it'll specifically tell us what went wrong. --Sean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 12:15: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.thuntek.net (srv1.thuntek.net [206.206.98.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB0B156F0 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:15:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwilde1@thuntek.net) Received: from thuntek.net (abq-029.thuntek.net [207.66.52.29]) by srv1.thuntek.net (8.9.1/8.6.12TNT1.0) with ESMTP id NAA22552; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:13:03 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <370A5C64.D3B4C0BD@thuntek.net> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 13:11:32 -0600 From: Donald Wilde X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Kelly Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DocProj build References: <370A5AA5.66E8559A@thuntek.net> <370A5BD9.CF27C2BD@plutotech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org make distclean; make 2> file in progress. -- Don Wilde "Bringing the Internet to everyone!" Wilde Media 1380 Rio Rancho Blvd. SE #117 voice: 505-771-0709 Rio Rancho, New Mexico 87124 e-mail: dwilde1@thuntek.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 14:17:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.thuntek.net (srv1.thuntek.net [206.206.98.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B6B155D2 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:17:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwilde1@thuntek.net) Received: from thuntek.net (abq-031.thuntek.net [207.66.52.31]) by srv1.thuntek.net (8.9.1/8.6.12TNT1.0) with ESMTP id PAA29459; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:14:24 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <370A78D8.FF59410F@thuntek.net> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 15:12:56 -0600 From: Donald Wilde X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Kelly , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DocProj build References: <370A5AA5.66E8559A@thuntek.net> <370A5BD9.CF27C2BD@plutotech.com> <370A5C64.D3B4C0BD@thuntek.net> <370A6C14.F28210F1@plutotech.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------5FCF28593C6CF9E5D9F6A912" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5FCF28593C6CF9E5D9F6A912 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sean Kelly wrote: > > > make distclean; make 2> file in progress. > > Okay, fine! > Well, it didn't show any errors like you guys were looking for, but there are two parse errors listed. > PS: How's New Mexico? > I used to live in Socorro ... about six years ago now. It'll be great as long as I can keep getting paid. A "contract engineering" company (Aerotek) offered me $35 an hour to install a firewall and routers and proxies, etc... and they were SERIOUS!!! The only way you can live here is if you make money from outside via Internet. I _love_ my house, love the climate (except for the current winds which aren't normal), and the people are mostly friendly. Too many people live off the government, though. It's very Democrat-soak-everybody-for-the-disadvantaged. -- Don Wilde "Bringing the Internet to everyone!" Wilde Media 1380 Rio Rancho Blvd. SE #117 voice: 505-771-0709 Rio Rancho, New Mexico 87124 e-mail: dwilde1@thuntek.net --------------5FCF28593C6CF9E5D9F6A912 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="file" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="file" conflicts: 1 shift/reduce tftopl.c: In function `organize': tftopl.c:806: warning: comparison is always 0 due to limited range of data type vftovp.c: In function `organize': vftovp.c:1364: warning: comparison is always 0 due to limited range of data type In file included from /usr/local/include/w3c-libwww/WWWXML.h:41, from /usr/local/include/w3c-libwww/HTInit.h:119, from /usr/local/include/w3c-libwww/WWWInit.h:67, from xdvi.c:94: /usr/local/include/w3c-libwww/HTXML.h:37: xmlparse.h: No such file or directory In file included from xdvi.c:127: version.h:1: warning: `VERSION' redefined /usr/local/include/w3c-libwww/wwwconf.h:474: warning: this is the location of the previous definition In file included from /usr/local/include/w3c-libwww/WWWXML.h:41, from /usr/local/include/w3c-libwww/HTInit.h:119, from /usr/local/include/w3c-libwww/WWWInit.h:67, from xdvi.c:94: /usr/local/include/w3c-libwww/HTXML.h:69: parse error before `XML_Parser' /usr/local/include/w3c-libwww/HTXML.h:91: parse error before `XML_StartElementHandler' gmake[2]: *** [xdvi.o] Error 1 --------------5FCF28593C6CF9E5D9F6A912-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 14:20: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77CB314BCF for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:20:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.164.76]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990406211929.QTSX5596385.mta1-rme@wocker> for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:19:29 +1200 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: doc@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:18:01 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Old handbook pages renamed to ? Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990406211929.QTSX5596385.mta1-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm in the process of updating The FreeBSD Diary to reflect the new handbook. There are three pages I've been unable to locate. If you help me there, it would be appreciated. Below is the file name of the old page and a description of what I think the page dealt with. handbook139.html Emergency Restore Procedure handbook190.html Receiving incoming calls with PPP handbook241.html a good description of a dual homed host BTW: I like the new page names. Much better than numbers. -- Dan Langille The FreeBSD Diary http://www.FreeBSDDiary.com/freebsd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 14:29:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (stampede.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.45.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DEA1562B for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:29:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca12-101.ix.netcom.com [205.186.214.229]) by stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA29671; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.2/8.6.9) id OAA72139; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904062125.OAA72139@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: silvia.hip.berkeley.edu: asami set sender to asami@cs.berkeley.edu using -f To: dwilde1@thuntek.net Cc: kelly@plutotech.com, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <370A78D8.FF59410F@thuntek.net> (message from Donald Wilde on Tue, 06 Apr 1999 15:12:56 -0600) Subject: Re: DocProj build From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - the Wraith - Asami) References: <370A5AA5.66E8559A@thuntek.net> <370A5BD9.CF27C2BD@plutotech.com> <370A5C64.D3B4C0BD@thuntek.net> <370A6C14.F28210F1@plutotech.com> <370A78D8.FF59410F@thuntek.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * From: Donald Wilde * Well, it didn't show any errors like you guys were looking for, but * there are two parse errors listed. * /usr/local/include/w3c-libwww/HTXML.h:37: xmlparse.h: No such file or directory I saw this one yesterday too. I digged into the www/libwww port and was able to (sort of) fix it with the following: === Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/ports/www/libwww/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.16 diff -u -r1.16 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/03/08 00:15:40 1.16 +++ Makefile 1999/04/06 11:25:01 @@ -17,9 +17,12 @@ USE_GMAKE= yes CONFIGURE_ARGS= --enable-shared --enable-static DOCDIR= ${PREFIX}/share/doc/libwww +MAKE_ENV= objformat=${PORTOBJFORMAT} post-install: @${SETENV} OBJFORMAT=${PORTOBJFORMAT} ${LDCONFIG} -m ${PREFIX}/lib + ${INSTALL_DATA} ${WRKSRC}/modules/expat/xmlparse/xmlparse.h \ + ${PREFIX}/include/w3c-libwww/ .if !defined(NOPORTDOCS) @${MKDIR} ${DOCDIR}/User ${CP} -R ${WRKSRC}/Library/User/* ${DOCDIR}/User Index: pkg/PLIST =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/ports/www/libwww/pkg/PLIST,v retrieving revision 1.12 diff -u -r1.12 PLIST --- PLIST 1999/03/08 00:15:42 1.12 +++ PLIST 1999/04/06 11:25:11 @@ -150,6 +150,7 @@ include/w3c-libwww/WWWZip.h include/w3c-libwww/wwwconf.h include/w3c-libwww/wwwsys.h +include/w3c-libwww/xmlparse.h lib/libmd5.a lib/libmd5.la lib/libmd5.so.1 === (The MAKE_ENV is not strictly necessary as we run ldconfig again anyway, but will stop it from complaining during the "regular" install. Actually, it probably means we could take out the first line in post-install.) But then teTeX-beta doesn't link because of missing libraries. Here's a patch (put it in as print/teTeX-beta/patches/patch-) to fix that: === --- ./texk/xdvik/configure.org Thu Nov 12 23:04:40 1998 +++ ./texk/xdvik/configure Tue Apr 6 04:48:40 1999 @@ -3937,7 +3937,7 @@ done if test ${libwww_libdir_found} = yes; then - LDLIBWWW="-L${libwww_libdir} -lwww" + LDLIBWWW="-L${libwww_libdir} -lwww -lmd5 -lxmlparse -lxmltok" : else LDLIBWWW=-lwww === If it still complains about not being able to dump tex.fmt and stuff, try deleting everything in /usr/local that is related (most drastic will be "rm -rf /usr/local/*/*tex"). With these changes, I at least got teTeX-beta to compile and install all the way through, and be able to grok simple latex files (like my papers). However, the whole thing still barfs when trying to reformat the handbook (the entire reason of installing it in the first place, duh). === ## make /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -c ../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/3.0/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d ../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl -t sgml handbook.sgml /usr/local/bin/jade:E: cannot open "../../share/sgml/catalog" (No such file or directory) /usr/local/bin/jade:E: cannot open "handbook.sgml" (No such file or directory) /usr/local/bin/jade:E: cannot open "../../share/sgml/catalog" (No such file or directory) /usr/local/bin/jade:E: cannot open "../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl" (No such file or directory) /usr/local/bin/jade:E: specification document does not have the DSSSL architecture as a base architecture *** Error code 1 Stop. === I'm stumped here. I guess we should all wait for teTeX-nonbeta to come out. -PW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 14:33: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (stampede.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.45.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F359D15622; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:32:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca12-101.ix.netcom.com [205.186.214.229]) by stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA29682; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.2/8.6.9) id OAA72159; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904062129.OAA72159@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: silvia.hip.berkeley.edu: asami set sender to asami@cs.berkeley.edu using -f To: br@stiller.netland.inka.de Cc: nik@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199904061043.MAA33844@stiller.netland.inka.de> (message from Bernd Rosauer on Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:43:21 +0200) Subject: Re: print/teTeX-beta port From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - the Wraith - Asami) References: <199904061043.MAA33844@stiller.netland.inka.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * From: Bernd Rosauer * > /b/local/include/w3c-libwww/HTXML.h:37: xmlparse.h: No such file or directory By the way, this was caused by a problem in the www/libwww port. * I would really prefer to not have to touch teTeX-0.9-981113 anymore. * Please wait for my port of teTeX-0.9-RELEASE (or teTeX-1.0, whichever * version number Thomas Esser will prefer to give to teTeX-0.9-non-beta). * This distribution should hit earth really soon now. Ok. But in the meantime, will you mind if I commit the following patch to our port? It will make the teTeX-beta port at least compile (after the libwww fix) and be able to format some latex files (basically papers I wrote). -PW --- --- ./texk/xdvik/configure.org Thu Nov 12 23:04:40 1998 +++ ./texk/xdvik/configure Tue Apr 6 04:48:40 1999 @@ -3937,7 +3937,7 @@ done if test ${libwww_libdir_found} = yes; then - LDLIBWWW="-L${libwww_libdir} -lwww" + LDLIBWWW="-L${libwww_libdir} -lwww -lmd5 -lxmlparse -lxmltok" : else LDLIBWWW=-lwww To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 14:37:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.thuntek.net (srv1.thuntek.net [206.206.98.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329F41570F; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:37:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwilde1@thuntek.net) Received: from thuntek.net (abq-031.thuntek.net [207.66.52.31]) by srv1.thuntek.net (8.9.1/8.6.12TNT1.0) with ESMTP id PAA03947; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:35:38 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <370A7DD1.91B4DBAC@thuntek.net> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 15:34:09 -0600 From: Donald Wilde X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Satoshi - the Wraith - Asami Cc: kelly@plutotech.com, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DocProj build References: <370A5AA5.66E8559A@thuntek.net> <370A5BD9.CF27C2BD@plutotech.com> <370A5C64.D3B4C0BD@thuntek.net> <370A6C14.F28210F1@plutotech.com> <370A78D8.FF59410F@thuntek.net> <199904062125.OAA72139@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks, Satoshi. Since I'm not going to be working on anything _but_ the handbook and the www pages, I'd better take your last advice. ;-D They made quite a jump from 0.4 to 0.99; most of it seems to be XML related, and that's a heck of a moving target, especially with MS and the other dinosaurs trying to drag things around. -- Don Wilde "Bringing the Internet to everyone!" Wilde Media 1380 Rio Rancho Blvd. SE #117 voice: 505-771-0709 Rio Rancho, New Mexico 87124 e-mail: dwilde1@thuntek.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 15: 4: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (stampede.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.45.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4552815041 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:04:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca12-101.ix.netcom.com [205.186.214.229]) by stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA29718; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.2/8.6.9) id PAA75722; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904062200.PAA75722@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: silvia.hip.berkeley.edu: asami set sender to asami@cs.berkeley.edu using -f To: billf@chc-chimes.com Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk, doc@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Bill Fumerola on Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:04:57 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: Organisation change for the Handbook From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - the Wraith - Asami) References: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * From: Bill Fumerola * My name is ambiguous even with a first name and last initial. Sigh. That's what you get by having such a generic (and evil) first name. :> -PW P.S. Have you tried "xbill"? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 15: 9:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from thrush.omix.com (thrush.omix.com [206.40.77.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA0015361; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:09:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from byron@thrush.omix.com) Received: (from byron@localhost) by thrush.omix.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id PAA05556; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:08:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from byron) Message-Id: <199904062208.PAA05556@thrush.omix.com> Subject: Re: Organisation change for the Handbook In-Reply-To: <199904062200.PAA75722@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> from Satoshi - the Wraith - Asami at "Apr 6, 1999 3: 0:37 pm" To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - the Wraith - Asami) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Cc: billf@chc-chimes.com, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk, doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: byron@omix.com (Byron Brummer) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - the Wraith - Asami) wrote: > * From: Bill Fumerola > * My name is ambiguous even with a first name and last initial. Sigh. > > That's what you get by having such a generic (and evil) first name. :> > > -PW > P.S. Have you tried "xbill"? Port: xbill-2.0 Path: /usr/ports/games/xbill Info: Save your computers from the evil clutches of Bill I don't think we'd want to confuse the two. :-) -- -Zenin (zenin@archive.rhps.org) From The Blue Camel we learn: BSD: A psychoactive drug, popular in the 80s, probably developed at UC Berkeley or thereabouts. Similar in many ways to the prescription-only medication called "System V", but infinitely more useful. (Or, at least, more fun.) The full chemical name is "Berkeley Standard Distribution". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 15:50:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C364E15620 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:50:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA68786; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:20:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:20:40 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Tom Hukins Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10099: Building the Web site without a local CVS repository Message-ID: <19990406192040.G6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199904061710.KAA74145@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199904061710.KAA74145@freefall.freebsd.org>; from Tom Hukins on Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 10:10:02AM -0700 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tom, On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 10:10:02AM -0700, Tom Hukins wrote: > > CVS repository. However, the data extracted will also be present on > > machines which use CVSup to collect the ports tree. > > There have been some changes to the Web site recently. I have > updated my patch accordingly. > > I have been using this patch successfully for almost 2 months now. > Is there any chance it might being committed soon? Can you get a couple of other people to test this? If I get positive reports back I'll commit it ASAP. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 15:51:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE0215661 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:50:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA66704; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:03:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:03:54 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Duncan Barclay Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Organisation change for the Handbook Message-ID: <19990406190353.C6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990405234615.B6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Duncan Barclay on Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 05:49:55PM +0100 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 05:49:55PM +0100, Duncan Barclay wrote: > Minor nits - no exim in the MTAs and Usenet completely missing > (shameless plug - inn primer/setup stuff is available from > http://www.ragnet.demon.co.uk/mynews/ and I'm happy to work on it so > that it fits your new handbook framework.) I'll have the PPMail guys complaining next. . . Yeah. One of the benefits of this approach is that it makes it easier to slot new material in, and at the same time simpler to hand off chunks to volunteers and say "Here's a complete framework, all it needs is content". N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 15:51:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA89515662 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:51:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA67962; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:14:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:14:01 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Bill Fumerola Cc: Donald Wilde , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Organisation change for the Handbook Message-ID: <19990406191400.E6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <370A2356.58423B57@thuntek.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Bill Fumerola on Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 11:17:04AM -0400 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 11:17:04AM -0400, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Donald Wilde wrote: > > Bill Fumerola wrote: > > > My name is ambiguous even with a first name and last initial. Sigh. > > > > > Yah, Bill, better always use your last initial or somebody might > > associate you with those _other_ Bill's that are giving the name a very > > _bad_ reputation... ;-) > > Bill F{umerola,enner} = {billf,fenner}@FreeBSD.org > > I have to go full name. OK, when you guys have *quite* finished :-) Anyone got any comments about the other 356 lines in my mail :-) ? N . . . I don't know. You spend hours putting something together, and everyone latches on to the 2 line throwaway comment. . . -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 15:51:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBAB115661 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:51:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA67699; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:11:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:11:59 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Sean Kelly Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Organisation change for the Handbook Message-ID: <19990406191159.D6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990405234615.B6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <370A3434.26DB3045@plutotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <370A3434.26DB3045@plutotech.com>; from Sean Kelly on Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 10:20:04AM -0600 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 10:20:04AM -0600, Sean Kelly wrote: [ snippage; we're in agreement ] > > The gist of my proposal is to split the Handbook up in to a number of > > smaller books, containing between 70-150 'pages'. These would then truly be > > *hand*books. Each book should tackle one topic, and not repeat information > > from one of the other books. For example, if a book's topic requires that > > the reader reconfigure their kernel (for example, Firewalls), they should be > > directed to the appropriate part of the "Configuring FreeBSD" book, instead > > of repeating that information there. > > I mostly agree. In particular, kernel configuration is one of out > better chapters in the current handbook. Yet some amount of kernel > configuration appears in nearly all the other chapters: in networking on > setting up the kernel with an Ethernet controller; in printing on > setting up the kernel for parallel ports; etc. Yep. One of the things each book will need is a "_topic_ for the impatient". This is just bullet points that provide the minimal information for those that know what they're doing, and don't need handholding. For Kernel Configuration this would be something like; * Make sure you've installed the kernel sources. * Copy /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC /sys/i386/conf/KERNELNAME, where KERNELNAME is the name you want for your new kernel. * Read the comments in GENERIC and LINT (in the same directory) to determine which entries you need to add and remove. * # config -r KERNELNAME * # cd ../../compile/KERNELNAME # make clean depend # make all install * # shutdown -r now Obviously, the rest of the book goes in to much more detail. > I think the terminology is just tripping me up, here: are these really > separate books? Will these be toplevel Docbook "book" elements? I'm > wondering if there exists enough material in each book to warrant a > book, and thence a collection for all of our documentation. I think they are. I started off by thinking that this could be one big book, with each of these being 'parts' within that book (each part composed of many chapters). The more I thought about this, the more I thought that they may as well be books in their own right. It makes them a little more standalone, and means that the new user is not confronted with 580 pages of documentation to read in one lump. In DocBook terms, we'd have the FreeBSD documentation , consisting of many s. Of course, with clever SGML tricks the chapters (and books) can be agregated together in different ways, including producing one (big) book that includes the content of all the others, if there's a demand for that sort of thing. > > [ new organization ] > > Okay, I'm warming up to the idea now. In particular, "Unix Basics" > ought to be its own book. A Unix expert doesn't need all that extra > material if s/he just wants to know how to install FreeBSD. Yep. > Finally, don't forget that we'll need a separate book that's a compiled > index to the whole collection. Yep. A technical issue more than an organisational one. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 15:51:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459EB15662; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:51:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA68397; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:17:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:17:33 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Satoshi Asami Cc: nik@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org, br@stiller.netland.inka.de Subject: Re: print/teTeX-beta port Message-ID: <19990406191733.F6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199904060342.UAA06551@bubble.didi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199904060342.UAA06551@bubble.didi.com>; from Satoshi Asami on Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 08:42:26PM -0700 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 08:42:26PM -0700, Satoshi Asami wrote: > === > : > gmake[2]: Entering directory `/b/ports/print/teTeX-beta/work/teTeX-0.9/texk/oxdvik' > cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I/b/local/include/w3c-libwww -DHAVE_LIBWWW -DHAVE_WWWLIB_H -DPS_GS -I/usr/X11R6/include -DOmega -I.. -I./.. -O -pipe -c xdvi.c > In file included from /b/local/include/w3c-libwww/WWWXML.h:41, > from /b/local/include/w3c-libwww/HTInit.h:119, > from /b/local/include/w3c-libwww/WWWInit.h:67, > from xdvi.c:94: > /b/local/include/w3c-libwww/HTXML.h:37: xmlparse.h: No such file or directory > : > === You're libwww is the wrong version. I know it works with libwww-5.2.6, because that's what it's using on my machine here, and on hub, and on freefall (3.1-stable machines all of them). I'm beginning to think that this might be simpler if ports like these were duplicated in the doc repository (doc/ports?) with Makefiles that defaulted to installing them under /usr/doc/app/{bin,share,...} instead. We could then merge in changes from the main ports to the copies in doc/ after testing that they still work properly. This would work, but is a lot of duplication. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 15:54:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F2515658 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:54:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09786; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:51:47 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19990407085146.C9649@caamora.com.au> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:51:46 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: John Baldwin Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Sue Blake , junkmale@xtra.co.nz Subject: Re: Another Installation Guide [was: FreeBSD Advocacy] Mail-Followup-To: John Baldwin , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Sue Blake , junkmale@xtra.co.nz References: <19990405213219.A4455@caamora.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from John Baldwin on Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 01:31:41PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 01:31:41PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 05-Apr-99 jonathan michaels wrote: > > every cdrom (freebsd from walnut creek) comes with a > > installation 'guide' a booklet made from teh textfile authered > > by jordan k hubard. from what i can understand of teh depth of > > this documentation sub project is a very good effort. > > Have you read that recently? i started reading it at freebsd v2.1.5-release, i just checked 2.0.5 and 2.1 to kmake sure it was not in either. for me recent is v2.2.5 .. while i do have v3.0 i had no ntention of using this set, it was purchased fro teh sake of completeness, given its shortcomings and teh advice of jordan. > It hasn't changed since like 2.2.6 or something, > and now is a bit out of date in some places. as an example, a freind came over on teh weekend and we did tea and a small bit about freebsd and 'teh complete freebsd', he mentioned how he was having a problem setting up his dns. this is were i should have been a lot more circumspect, i said 'just look up teh relevent bit in tcfbsd and follow it step by step and it will work flawlessly. some of you who have freebsd v3.1-release and 'teh complete freebsd ed2' will have spoted teh oops already ... the two are completely different, yes it is possible to get teh old version of named to run in 3.1, well i think it is. so, yes i'm aware that teh guide and teh recent version of freebsd might be out of sync .. as all things grow when one is static and teh other a growing living object. i wasn't as aware of these changes, i still run v2.2.5-release, so for me teh booklet is still current .. grin. but, i can see teh probelms it would pose to those who are using a more recent version of freebsd. > BTW, is that guid sotred in the > tree somewhere? I'd like to submit some patches to update it to 3.x if I could > get a copy to work off of. as far as i know, its a jkh effort ... also being a document mangler myself i found teh best way to repair someting, as small as teh booklet we are discussing is to type it in verbatum (after getting permission from teh owner, copyright holder). this way you will have read it more closely than just grazing parts to get out of a jam. once you understand what is written, it is much easier to upgrade teh relevant sections without destroying teh item as a whole, style of writing and language usage et al. it is not easy to take a well written document and 'fix bits' by another person .. in this case it would be far better to rewrite teh document as a whole ..ergo the discussion of teh need fro a new, or as i questioned in this post originally, another installation guide. regards jonathan -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 16:20: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.thuntek.net (srv1.thuntek.net [206.206.98.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC49156D6; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwilde1@thuntek.net) Received: from thuntek.net (abq-072.thuntek.net [207.66.52.72]) by srv1.thuntek.net (8.9.1/8.6.12TNT1.0) with ESMTP id RAA25703; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:17:57 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <370A95C5.2DF84578@thuntek.net> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 17:16:21 -0600 From: Donald Wilde X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nik Clayton Cc: nik@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: print/teTeX-beta port References: <199904060342.UAA06551@bubble.didi.com> <19990406191733.F6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton wrote: > > You're libwww is the wrong version. I know it works with libwww-5.2.6, > because that's what it's using on my machine here, and on hub, and on > freefall (3.1-stable machines all of them). > Well, on mine it went out and fetched 5.2.6 right from W3C, so unless something else went and stuck hooks in the old one underneath it, that's what I built. -- Don Wilde "Bringing the Internet to everyone!" Wilde Media 1380 Rio Rancho Blvd. SE #117 voice: 505-771-0709 Rio Rancho, New Mexico 87124 e-mail: dwilde1@thuntek.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 16:25:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD7C15600 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:25:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id AAA06065; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 00:19:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 00:19:57 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Dan Langille Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Old handbook pages renamed to ? Message-ID: <19990407001956.B4304@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990406211929.QTSX5596385.mta1-rme@wocker> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990406211929.QTSX5596385.mta1-rme@wocker>; from Dan Langille on Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 09:18:01AM +1200 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 09:18:01AM +1200, Dan Langille wrote: > I'm in the process of updating The FreeBSD Diary to reflect the new > handbook. There are three pages I've been unable to locate. If you help > me there, it would be appreciated. Below is the file name of the old page > and a description of what I think the page dealt with. > > handbook139.html Emergency Restore Procedure > handbook190.html Receiving incoming calls with PPP > handbook241.html a good description of a dual homed host > > BTW: I like the new page names. Much better than numbers. Emergency Restore Procedure backup-programs.html#AEN7867 Receiving incoming calls with PPP ppp-and-slip.html#AEN11906 Dual homed host advanced-networking.html#AEN12817 It looks like those AEN numbers are machine generated, and may change in the future. If they do, I'll add real names to them so they stay static. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 16:26:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1829615233 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:25:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id AAA04840; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 00:10:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 00:10:46 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Donald Wilde Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DocProj build Message-ID: <19990407001046.A4304@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <370A53F5.CF72193C@thuntek.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <370A53F5.CF72193C@thuntek.net>; from Donald Wilde on Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 12:35:34PM -0600 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 12:35:34PM -0600, Donald Wilde wrote: > In trying to establish the tools to be able to understand and work with > you guys, I set out to install DocProj-1.0. Failing the first time, I > saw Nik's note about teTeX-beta, so I went back and removed my old > teTeX. Unfortunately, the new one bombs. There's one 'error 1' in the > make, but it doesn't "Stop." when I tried to reproduce it, the make > doesn't report any errors. Make install, however, bombs, and I'm not > sure why. I'm trying again. > > My system is 3.1-STABLE as of about 2 weeks ago. (#5 Sun March 21) See my point in another message about possibly maintaining copies of these ports inside the doc/ repository. "It works for me", and did when I installed it on hub and freefall about a week ago. You may find it simpler to install the package until any new wrinkles with the port are sorted out. Either way, some context (say, 20-30 lines) around the error message would be handy to help diagnose this. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 16:31:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.thuntek.net (srv1.thuntek.net [206.206.98.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E059154B2 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:31:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwilde1@thuntek.net) Received: from thuntek.net (abq-072.thuntek.net [207.66.52.72]) by srv1.thuntek.net (8.9.1/8.6.12TNT1.0) with ESMTP id RAA27381; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:29:34 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <370A987F.A74ADF8E@thuntek.net> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 17:27:59 -0600 From: Donald Wilde X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DocProj build References: <370A53F5.CF72193C@thuntek.net> <19990407001046.A4304@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I sent the entire error dump later, Nik. You haven't gotten far enough into your mail :-) For now, I'll just build with JADETEX off. Funny, Aleve is about as effective for me as a sugar pill. "It _doesn't_ work for me!" -- Don Wilde "Bringing the Internet to everyone!" Wilde Media 1380 Rio Rancho Blvd. SE #117 voice: 505-771-0709 Rio Rancho, New Mexico 87124 e-mail: dwilde1@thuntek.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 18: 6:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gandalf.wr.usgs.gov (gandalf.wr.usgs.gov [130.118.40.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086AB15355 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:06:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsowders@gandalf.wr.usgs.gov) Received: (from rsowders@localhost) by gandalf.wr.usgs.gov (8.8.8/8.8.5) id SAA29640; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904070104.SAA29640@gandalf.wr.usgs.gov> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-URL: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/doc/handbook.html.gz X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.7.1 From: Subject: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/doc/handbook.html.gz Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 18:20:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE4314E02 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:20:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id LAA12710; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:18:14 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19990407111809.59510@welearn.com.au> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:18:09 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: Nik Clayton Cc: Sean Kelly , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Quick guides [was: Organisation change for the Handbook] References: <19990405234615.B6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <370A3434.26DB3045@plutotech.com> <19990406191159.D6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <19990406191159.D6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 07:11:59PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 07:11:59PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 10:20:04AM -0600, Sean Kelly wrote: > > > I mostly agree. In particular, kernel configuration is one of out > > better chapters in the current handbook. Yep, it was the first thing I had to do after installing. It took days and required a lot of other learning (unix, editing, ...) along the way, but the kernel came together in the end just like it said. > > Yet some amount of kernel > > configuration appears in nearly all the other chapters: in networking on > > setting up the kernel with an Ethernet controller; in printing on > > setting up the kernel for parallel ports; etc. > > Yep. One of the things each book will need is a "_topic_ for the > impatient". This is just bullet points that provide the minimal > information for those that know what they're doing, and don't need > handholding. This is also something that is very important for those who know little. You don't help a raw beginner by dumping everything you know about a topic, no matter how much they might need to understand all that stuff eventually. If they can't stand back and see it as a doable whole, visually follow a path of few steps and see what they're working towards, it becomes too much to take in. Take this for example: > For Kernel Configuration this would be something like; > > * Make sure you've installed the kernel sources. > > * Copy /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC /sys/i386/conf/KERNELNAME, where > KERNELNAME is the name you want for your new kernel. > > * Read the comments in GENERIC and LINT (in the same directory) to > determine which entries you need to add and remove. > > * # config -r KERNELNAME > > * # cd ../../compile/KERNELNAME > # make clean depend > # make all install > > * # shutdown -r now A lot of new people with no experience will need to have something like the above to guide their reading of the full detail, or else they'll be overawed and give up. If I look at that and don't understand any of the steps, at least I can get some idea of what kind of steps they are and how many parts I'll have to absorb before I get to the end. It is necessary at the outset to be able to see the task as a whole. Most people's brains can hold approximately seven pieces of information together at one time. Familiar information groups itself so that one can hold seven of these groups (or concepts), or seven tiny new pieces, or a mixture. What we regard as one item might be ten or twenty to a newcomer. We're writing instructions (docs) for hardware (brains) of a type that we don't have access to any more. For example, someone who knows absolutely nothing might temporarily register the list above in their mind as: 1. Make sure that something with that funny name is installed. 2. Decide on a name for my kernel and copy some file that I've never heard of to that new name (I think). 3. There's some task to do with adding and removing some things, and there will be two files to read to help with these decisions. 4. Type a whole lot of unknown commands, probably need to be root. 5. Shut down the computer. That's about as long as it can afford to be. Despite its look, this rough list is enough to give a reference pathway through the ensuing study, even though the original list didn't make a lot of sense. One of those steps might take hours or days, especially if they need to detour midway to learn more unix commands, look up hardware manuals, or to experiment or ask questions when the documentation doesn't make sense. Without having some concise overview of the steps it is very easy to get lost or disheartened. Contrast this with the typical many pages of carefully written text which describe the finished outcome, start with background info, deliver basic skills, specific skills, each task broken up into its learnable subtasks, a multitude of little steps which are all easy but far too many to see how they fit together in relation to the overall goal. Plugging them together as you go is not enough on its own. That's why build-it-yourself hobby kits come with a photo on the front of the box and an exploded view on the back and deliver the tweezer-sized pieces with instructions after breaking the shrinkwrap. Advanced people don't need the bottom-up approach, people approaching something totally new need to see it in *both* directions. I have yet to find anything to do with FreeBSD that is not very easy to do. It's just that there's always so many of these easy things to do! It's not enough for novices to learn all the little steps. Unless they can join those steps together into chunks of increasing size up to a whole task, it'll always seem a lot harder than it is, no matter how much explanation we pump into them. The two devices most useful here are repeated real practice at appropriate stages, and having a concise overview of the steps for reference from the outset. If you're preparing documentation at different levels, please don't write off the quick guide approach as only useful to those in the know. For many learners it can make the difference between giving up and giving it a go, even if they don't understand the items initialy. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 19: 4:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f14.hotmail.com [207.82.250.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 94C8215093 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:04:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from soviet1111@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 8855 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 1999 02:02:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407020231.8853.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 171.208.189.244 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 19:02:29 PDT X-Originating-IP: [171.208.189.244] From: "sam rozenberg" To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: What do i download first? Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 19:02:29 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi i am trying to download and install FreeBSD and i dont know what to down load first . i have a ms-dos 7 and windows 98. can i make my system a duel boot system . can i have both FreeBSD and windows 98? Pleas send me a link to what i have to download first of instrutions on what to download first and how to install. Thanks Sam _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 19:21: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.thuntek.net (srv1.thuntek.net [206.206.98.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2756715653 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:20:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwilde1@thuntek.net) Received: from thuntek.net (abq-020.thuntek.net [207.66.52.20]) by srv1.thuntek.net (8.9.1/8.6.12TNT1.0) with ESMTP id UAA26587; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 20:18:57 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <370AC034.F2ECF0C3@thuntek.net> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 20:17:24 -0600 From: Donald Wilde X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam rozenberg Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What do i download first? References: <19990407020231.8853.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Sam - Go to the www.freebsd.org website and you'll find easy instructions starting at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html This list is only for discussion of FreeBSD documentation, you should ask your questions on freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, not here, but hte short answer is "yes, you can dual boot FreeBSD and WinXX" -- Don Wilde "Bringing the Internet to everyone!" Wilde Media 1380 Rio Rancho Blvd. SE #117 voice: 505-771-0709 Rio Rancho, New Mexico 87124 e-mail: dwilde1@thuntek.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 6 22:35:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1406614C3D for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:35:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.164.76]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990407053459.VYJX5752963.mta2-rme@wocker>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:34:59 +1200 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Nik Clayton Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:33:15 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Old handbook pages renamed to ? Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: doc@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <19990407001956.B4304@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990406211929.QTSX5596385.mta1-rme@wocker>; from Dan Langille on Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 09:18:01AM +1200 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990407053459.VYJX5752963.mta2-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 7 Apr 99, at 0:19, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 09:18:01AM +1200, Dan Langille wrote: > > I'm in the process of updating The FreeBSD Diary to reflect the new > > handbook. There are three pages I've been unable to locate. If you > > help me there, it would be appreciated. Below is the file name of the > > old page and a description of what I think the page dealt with. > > > > handbook139.html Emergency Restore Procedure > > handbook190.html Receiving incoming calls with PPP > > handbook241.html a good description of a dual homed host > > > > BTW: I like the new page names. Much better than numbers. > > Emergency Restore Procedure > > backup-programs.html#AEN7867 > > Receiving incoming calls with PPP > > ppp-and-slip.html#AEN11906 > > Dual homed host > > advanced-networking.html#AEN12817 > > It looks like those AEN numbers are machine generated, and may change in > the future. If they do, I'll add real names to them so they stay static. Thanks Nik. Statis names make my job easier, and no doubt yours. cheers. -- Dan Langille The FreeBSD Diary http://www.FreeBSDDiary.com/freebsd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 7 1:12: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5DC41575F for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 01:11:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id BAA80318; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 01:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from patrol.area51.fremont.ca.us (d60-076.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA8D15747 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 01:06:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mharo@patrol.area51.fremont.ca.us) Received: (from mharo@localhost) by patrol.area51.fremont.ca.us (8.9.2/8.9.2) id BAA44782; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 01:04:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mharo) Message-Id: <199904070804.BAA44782@patrol.area51.fremont.ca.us> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 01:04:38 -0700 (PDT) From: mharo@area51.fremont.ca.us Reply-To: mharo@area51.fremont.ca.us To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/10997: Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 10997 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Apr 7 01:10:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Haro >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: Not really sure where to file this www problem report. It isn't really a docs problem, it is a cgi problem, but I guess docs will do. Doing a query where the originator contains a space gets converted into a space from a + but not back into a + in the How-To-Repeat: >Fix: something like this might work but there is probably a better way.... $self_ref3 =~ s/ /+/g; I'm unable to test this code patch but I think it would work. Again, there is probably a better way. Index: query-pr-summary.cgi =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/www/en/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi,v retrieving revision 1.22 diff -u -r1.22 query-pr-summary.cgi --- query-pr-summary.cgi 1999/02/26 22:05:58 1.22 +++ query-pr-summary.cgi 1999/04/07 07:58:23 @@ -176,6 +177,7 @@ $self_ref3 .= '&' if ($self_ref2 !~/\?$/); $self_ref3 .= $_ . '=' . $input{$_}; } + $self_ref3 =~ s/ /+/g; } if ($input{"closedtoo"}) { print 'Don',"'",'t show closed reports.'; >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 7 1:38:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (stampede.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.45.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E580B157B1; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 01:38:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca12-101.ix.netcom.com [205.186.214.229]) by stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA00407; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 01:37:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.2/8.6.9) id BAA77044; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 01:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 01:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904070836.BAA77044@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: silvia.hip.berkeley.edu: asami set sender to asami@cs.berkeley.edu using -f To: nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk Cc: nik@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org, br@stiller.netland.inka.de In-reply-to: <19990406191733.F6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> (message from Nik Clayton on Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:17:33 +0100) Subject: Re: print/teTeX-beta port From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - the Wraith - Asami) References: <199904060342.UAA06551@bubble.didi.com> <19990406191733.F6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * From: Nik Clayton * You're libwww is the wrong version. I know it works with libwww-5.2.6, * because that's what it's using on my machine here, and on hub, and on * freefall (3.1-stable machines all of them). I did use libwww-5.2.6. In fact the periodic package building (which always starts with an empty /usr/local) was failing just until now. Justin's commit to www/libwww and my (still uncommitted, posted to this list) fix to teTeX-beta was necessary to get it going again. HTXML.h was including xmlparse.h, which wasn't installed by the libwww port so I have no idea how it worked for you, unless you somehow had an old copy of that file already under /usr/local. * I'm beginning to think that this might be simpler if ports like these * were duplicated in the doc repository (doc/ports?) with Makefiles that * defaulted to installing them under /usr/doc/app/{bin,share,...} * instead. We could then merge in changes from the main ports to the * copies in doc/ after testing that they still work properly. * * This would work, but is a lot of duplication. If the stuff that docproj depends on are moving too fast (and breaking a lot along the way) in the main ports tree, I agree maybe it's a good idea to put them in their own repository. I don't particularly mind the duplication (it's only port skeletons after all) but this is a different situation, when a single port works for some people but not for others. :) And the other mail: * "It works for me", and did when I installed it on hub and freefall about * a week ago. You may find it simpler to install the package until any * new wrinkles with the port are sorted out. But if it doesn't work for *me* (on the package building machine), there's no package! ;) -PW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 7 2:27: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B346215720; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 02:26:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.56.32]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA293; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:24:56 +0200 Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org (abaddon@daemon [192.168.0.1]) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA34816; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:25:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199904062129.OAA72159@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:25:03 +0200 (CEST) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: (Satoshi - the Wraith - Asami) Subject: Re: print/teTeX-beta port Cc: doc@freebsd.org, nik@freebsd.org, br@stiller.netland.inka.de Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 06-Apr-99 Satoshi - the Wraith - Asami wrote: > * From: Bernd Rosauer > > * I would really prefer to not have to touch teTeX-0.9-981113 anymore. > * Please wait for my port of teTeX-0.9-RELEASE (or teTeX-1.0, whichever > * version number Thomas Esser will prefer to give to > teTeX-0.9-non-beta). > * This distribution should hit earth really soon now. > > Ok. But in the meantime, will you mind if I commit the following > patch to our port? It will make the teTeX-beta port at least compile > (after the libwww fix) and be able to format some latex files > (basically papers I wrote). Btw, that's utter crap anyways, if one sets the DATE environment to 990406 ye get the latest beta which AFAIK still doesn't require patches, so only the PLIST should need an update. And yes, I did that and use it, and was fixing the xmlparse stuff when Satoshi found the libwww problem, else I had found xmlparse.h from expat on www.jclark.com. And we all know about Real Soon Now messages... Just my .02 euro's --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmodai(at)wxs.nl The idea does not replace the work... Network/Security Specialist *BSD: Powered by Knowledge & Know-how To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 7 2:44: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (stampede.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.45.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0BBF1577E for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 02:44:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca12-101.ix.netcom.com [205.186.214.229]) by stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA00504; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 02:42:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.2/8.6.9) id CAA77391; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 02:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 02:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904070941.CAA77391@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: silvia.hip.berkeley.edu: asami set sender to asami@cs.berkeley.edu using -f To: mkamm@icg.tu-graz.ac.at Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, mkamm@icg.tu-graz.ac.at In-reply-to: (message from Martin Kammerhofer on Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:41:09 +0100 (MET)) Subject: Re: stale link in handbook From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - the Wraith - Asami) References: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * From: Martin Kammerhofer * This needs to be changed to * * http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk Thanks, I fixed this and a comment earlier about /usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk. -PW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 7 7: 8:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6148E14DA1; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:08:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from br@netland.inka.de) Received: from stiller.netland.inka.de by mail.inka.de with uucp (rmailwrap 0.4) id 10UsyH-0007z3-00; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:06:25 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stiller.netland.inka.de (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA03366; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:03:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from br@netland.inka.de) Message-Id: <199904070503.HAA03366@stiller.netland.inka.de> To: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - the Wraith - Asami) Cc: nik@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: print/teTeX-beta port In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 06 Apr 1999 14:29:40 PDT." <199904062129.OAA72159@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 07:03:51 +0200 From: Bernd Rosauer Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Satoshi Asami: > Ok. But in the meantime, will you mind if I commit the following > patch to our port? It will make the teTeX-beta port at least compile > (after the libwww fix) and be able to format some latex files > (basically papers I wrote). No, I wouldn't mind, of course. -Bernd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 7 7:29:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3195C14C8D; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:29:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA176795191; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:26:31 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:26:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Satoshi - the Wraith - Asami Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Organisation change for the Handbook In-Reply-To: <199904062200.PAA75722@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Satoshi - the Wraith - Asami wrote: > * My name is ambiguous even with a first name and last initial. Sigh. > > That's what you get by having such a generic (and evil) first name. :> The number of references I get in relationship to my name and a certain CEO is astronomical. > P.S. Have you tried "xbill"? Yes, and I like it. :-> - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 7 7:31: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F8114C8D; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:30:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA176865257; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:27:37 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:27:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Byron Brummer Cc: Satoshi - the Wraith - Asami , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Organisation change for the Handbook In-Reply-To: <199904062208.PAA05556@thrush.omix.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Byron Brummer wrote: > Port: xbill-2.0 > Path: /usr/ports/games/xbill > Info: Save your computers from the evil clutches of Bill > > I don't think we'd want to confuse the two. :-) I think it's time for me to commit a clarification on just exactly which Bill we're talking about. :> - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 7 7:34: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62ED914EBA for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:34:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA177005429; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:30:29 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:30:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Nik Clayton Cc: Donald Wilde , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Organisation change for the Handbook In-Reply-To: <19990406191400.E6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > OK, when you guys have *quite* finished :-) > > Anyone got any comments about the other 356 lines in my mail :-) ? I guess I could go read it. :) Seriously, I like the 'minibook' idea and would be willing to contribute articles given a list that I could take bite-size projects. ie, I would be willing to write little documents on how to set up typical installations of named/bind, but wouldn't want to write the whole networking minibook. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 7 7:35:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8097F14E76 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:35:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA177135484; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:31:24 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:31:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Nik Clayton Cc: Duncan Barclay , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Organisation change for the Handbook In-Reply-To: <19990406190353.C6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > Yeah. One of the benefits of this approach is that it makes it easier > to slot new material in, and at the same time simpler to hand off > chunks to volunteers and say "Here's a complete framework, all it needs > is content". And the advocates of the lesser-known-but-loved-by-those-who-use-it software would probably love to have something to dock their documentation into. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 7 8: 0:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8489157DB for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:00:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id AAA15043; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:58:15 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19990408005810.34644@welearn.com.au> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:58:10 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: Bill Fumerola Cc: Nik Clayton , Duncan Barclay , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Organisation change for the Handbook References: <19990406190353.C6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: ; from Bill Fumerola on Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 10:31:24AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 10:31:24AM -0400, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > > > Yeah. One of the benefits of this approach is that it makes it easier > > to slot new material in, and at the same time simpler to hand off > > chunks to volunteers and say "Here's a complete framework, all it needs > > is content". > > And the advocates of the lesser-known-but-loved-by-those-who-use-it > software would probably love to have something to dock their documentation > into. Wow! Here's my big chance to write a "book" on ed :-) But how do we induce people to fill in the old ignored bits, like the missing X section? Would it help to have a monthly posting to -doc listing what documentation is sorely lacking and what's currently being worked on? -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 7 8: 2: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647C9157D3 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:01:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id IAA07487; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:00:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from icc.surw.chel.su (surw.chel.su [195.54.2.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D455914D72 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:54:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@icc.surw.chel.su) Received: (from andy@localhost) by icc.surw.chel.su (8.9.2/8.8.8) id SAA33796; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:53:03 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from andy) Message-Id: <199904071453.SAA33796@icc.surw.chel.su> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:53:03 +0400 (MSD) From: Andrey Zakhvatov Reply-To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11001: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/hackers.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11001 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/hackers.sgml >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Apr 7 08:00:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrey Zakhvatov >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: South Ural Railway ICC >Environment: >Description: This is a patch to sync with English 1.15 begin 644 hackers.diff M+2TM("]H;VUE+V%N9'DO;F-V2]N M8W9S+V1O8R]R=2]&05$O:&%C:V5R'`@)"`M+3X* M*SPA+2T@)$ED.B!H86-K97)S+G-G;6PL=B`Q+C$Q(#$Y.3DO,#0O,#8@,30Z M,S@Z-#,@86YD>2!%>'`@)"`M+3X*(#PA+2T@5&AE($9R965"4T0@4G5SQ=/4U\4@R#TO:&]M92]N8W9S"D!`("TQ-#0L M-R`K,30T+#<@0$`*("`@("`@(#PO:&5A9&EN9SX*(`H@("`@("`@/'`^Y,$L M(-S4SR#-S];.SR#$QQ<[)Q2#)(-7-Q<[8V\7.R<4@P<32Q=/.S\?/(-#2S]/4TL'.T]37P2#1 MQ-+!/"]H96%D:6YG/@HK"BL@("`@("`\<#[PSR#5S<_,WL'.R<`@TL':S<72 M(,'$TL73SL_'SR#0TL_3U-+!SM/4U\$@T<32P2#2P=?%SB`R-38@[>(@U\\* M*R`@("`@($9R965"4T0@,RYX(,D@,2#GXB#7SR!&"X@(.73 MS,D@U]D@R=/0S\S8VM7%U,4@1G)E94)31`HK("`@("`@UR#+P=[%T]37Q2#3 MQ=+7Q=+!(-,@R<[4Q<[3R=?.S\H@T\74Q=?/RB#.PU,\@,C4V(.WB"BL@("`@("#.Q<3/T]3!U,_> MSL\N"BL**R`@("`@(#QP/NO!R\G-(-;%(,_"TL':S\T@S<_6SL\@U=?%S,G> MR=38(,'$TL73SL_%(-#2S]/4TL'.T]37SS\@^L3%T]@**R`@("`@(,73U-@@ MQ-?!(,W/S<7.U,$N("#WSRW0Q=+7V<@L(-?!S2#.U=;.SR#5R\':P=38(-'$ MTM4@U]G$QU,_"V2#/SB#.Q2#7V=O% MS"#:P2#7Q=+(SL#`"BL@("`@("#'TL'.RU,G4Q2#)VB`**R`@("`@(-#/S-7>R=?;QR]4@UR#3S-7>P<4@S\3.S]#2S\/%T]//TL[/RB#-P=O)SMD@R0HK M("`@("`@Q-?/Q=[+U2#7(-/,U=[!Q2#-SL_'S]#2S\/%T]//TL[/Q\\@T<32 MP2X**PHK("`@("`@/'`^Y,S1(,3/T]3)UL7.R=$@U]3/TL_*(,/%S,D@U\'- M(,[5UL[/(-#2P=?)S-C.VQ<[) MQ2#+S\[3U,'.U-D@/'1T+TQ/041?041$4D534R\**R`@("`@(-<@QL'*S,4@ M/'1T/G-R8R]S>7,O:3,X-B]C;VYF+TUA:V5F:6QE+FDS.#8\+W1T/B#7(-S4 MSR#:SL'>Q<[)Q3L@VL'4QQ<[)Q2P@R\'+(-S4SR#3Q,7,P<[/(-K$Q=/8.@HK"BL@ M("`@("`\=F5R8CX**T]55%!55%]&3U)-050H(F5L9C,R+6DS.#8B+"`B96QF M,S(M:3,X-B(L(")E;&8S,BUI,S@V(BD**T]55%!55%]!4D-(*&DS.#8I"BM% M3E1262AB=&5X="D**U-%05)#2%]$25(H+W5SPHK("`O*B!296%D+6]N;'D@ M'0@RHow-To-Repeat: >Fix: Please, check and apply this patch, but don't forget to say about syncing with English 1.15 in commit message. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 7 8: 8:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840B9157CA; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:08:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA182007519; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:05:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:05:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Sue Blake Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, bugmaster@FreeBSD.ORG, steve@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Organisation change for the Handbook In-Reply-To: <19990408005810.34644@welearn.com.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Sue Blake wrote: > But how do we induce people to fill in the old ignored bits, like the > missing X section? Would it help to have a monthly posting to -doc > listing what documentation is sorely lacking and what's currently being > worked on? The weekly 'Bugmaster' reports I(as do all committers) get mailed to us saying "HEY! THESE ARE OPEN PRs!" motivate me everynow and then. I know the ports list recieves open ports PRs, does the docs list recieve open docs PRs? - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 7 8:12: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23346157BA for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:11:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id IAA08477; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from icc.surw.chel.su (surw.chel.su [195.54.2.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158C715790 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:11:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@icc.surw.chel.su) Received: (from andy@localhost) by icc.surw.chel.su (8.9.2/8.8.8) id TAA34198; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:09:33 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from andy) Message-Id: <199904071509.TAA34198@icc.surw.chel.su> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:09:33 +0400 (MSD) From: Andrey Zakhvatov Reply-To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11002: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/hardware.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11002 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/hardware.sgml >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Apr 7 08:10:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrey Zakhvatov >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: South Ural Railway ICC >Environment: >Description: This is a patch to sync with English 1.16 begin 644 hardware.diff M+2TM("]H;VUE+V%N9'DO;F-V'`@)"`M M+3X**SPA+2T@)$ED.B!H87)D=V%R92YS9VUL+'8@,2XV(#$Y.3DO,#0O,#<@ M,34Z,#8Z,3$@86YD>2!%>'`@)"`M+3X*(#PA+2T@5&AE($9R965"4T0@4G5S MHow-To-Repeat: >Fix: Please, check and apply this patch, but don't forget to say about syncing with English 1.16 >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 7 8:13:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lodge.guild.ab.ca (lodge.guild.ab.ca [209.91.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A04D157CA for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:13:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davidc@acns.ab.ca) Received: from acns.ab.ca (clgr000533.hs.telusplanet.net [161.184.82.25]) by lodge.guild.ab.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA37127; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:53:51 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <370B7567.9B0CB5BF@acns.ab.ca> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:10:31 -0600 From: Chad David Organization: ACNS Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sue Blake Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Organisation change for the Handbook References: <19990406190353.C6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990408005810.34644@welearn.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sue Blake wrote: > On Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 10:31:24AM -0400, Bill Fumerola wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > > > > > Yeah. One of the benefits of this approach is that it makes it easier > > > to slot new material in, and at the same time simpler to hand off > > > chunks to volunteers and say "Here's a complete framework, all it needs > > > is content". > > > > And the advocates of the lesser-known-but-loved-by-those-who-use-it > > software would probably love to have something to dock their documentation > > into. > > Wow! Here's my big chance to write a "book" on ed :-) > > But how do we induce people to fill in the old ignored bits, like the > missing X section? Would it help to have a monthly posting to -doc > listing what documentation is sorely lacking and what's currently being > worked on? > Aside from the extra burden of having to pick a new topic every month I think that is a good idea. I have been just listening here for some time, and I have never really gotten a feeling for what is requried, and when I asked I was told to listen in.... I am very busy but I often work on and document systems (Coda, WMVare, IPv6/IPsec), and if there was a simple framework that I could contribute them into then I would. Also if I knew what was requried I might get ambitious every once in a while, and just write something because it is needed. I will continue to listen in :). Chad David. > > -- > > Regards, > -*Sue*- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 7 8:31:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall1.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F5514D71 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:31:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id LAA00971; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:29:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id LAA16819; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lonmailhost.lehman.com (SMI-8.6/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id QAA26035; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:28:30 +0100 Message-ID: <19990407162829.I14492@lehman.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:28:29 +0100 From: nclayton@lehman.com To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: DocBook 3.1 port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, Before I start working on it, is anyone waiting in the wings with an upgrade to the DocBook port to include version 3.1 of the DTD? Otherwise it can go on my ToDo list. N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 7 12:33: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4F61585A for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:32:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id UAA82675; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:27:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:27:41 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Tom Hukins Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10099: Building the Web site without a local CVS repository Message-ID: <19990407202741.C39696@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199904061710.KAA74145@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199904061710.KAA74145@freefall.freebsd.org>; from Tom Hukins on Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 10:10:02AM -0700 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 10:10:02AM -0700, Tom Hukins wrote: > I have been using this patch successfully for almost 2 months now. > Is there any chance it might being committed soon? I've just been able to test this myself, with make -DENGLISH_ONLY -DNOCVS and it seems to work very well. I'm happy to commit this, with one minor change, and that's to change "NOCVS" to "NO_PORTS_CVS" (or possible "NOPORTSCVS". If I don't here a contrary opinion from anyone else in 24 hours I'll go ahead. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 7 12:34:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644E315852 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:34:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA51584; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:08:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:08:46 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Sue Blake Cc: Bill Fumerola , Nik Clayton , Duncan Barclay , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Organisation change for the Handbook Message-ID: <19990407190846.A39696@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990406190353.C6083@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990408005810.34644@welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990408005810.34644@welearn.com.au>; from Sue Blake on Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 12:58:10AM +1000 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 12:58:10AM +1000, Sue Blake wrote: > But how do we induce people to fill in the old ignored bits, like the > missing X section? Would it help to have a monthly posting to -doc > listing what documentation is sorely lacking and what's currently being > worked on? Keep lowering the barrier to contributing. At the moment, the Handbook is probably a bit daunting. It's big, it's complex, you need to read it if you want to write to it's style (such as there is one). What you want to write might not fit in properly, or cross over some existing sections. By breaking it up in to chunks it should be an easier task to contribute from the perspective of a potential author. I'm still working on the primer, to make it easier for people to get up to speed on how to contribute most effectively to the Doc. Proj. as well. I'm also not averse to making it easy for other doc groups to stick documentation in there. The GNOME and KDE folks are switching to DocBook, as is the Linux Documentation Project as a whole. I'd be *very* happy to see a consensus emerge as to a useful approach we can share -- the vast majority of Linux or FreeBSD documentation is, in fact, Unix documentation. There's a couple of other messages about this from Lars posted today. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 7 13:23:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4066415866 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:23:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.56.86]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA3EF9; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:21:24 +0200 Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org (abaddon@daemon [192.168.0.1]) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA61859; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:21:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990408005810.34644@welearn.com.au> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 22:21:21 +0200 (CEST) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Sue Blake Subject: Re: Organisation change for the Handbook Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Duncan Barclay , Nik Clayton , Bill Fumerola Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 07-Apr-99 Sue Blake wrote: > But how do we induce people to fill in the old ignored bits, like the > missing X section? Would it help to have a monthly posting to -doc > listing what documentation is sorely lacking and what's currently being > worked on? That's largely how freebsdzine.org works We have a number of topics we think are interesting to write about, those get written about and then there's a large number of people requesting a certain topic which one of the regulars from Undernet's #FreeBSD or one of the mailinglist authors picks up and tries to document. Might work for the Doc Proj as well mayhaps? --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmodai(at)wxs.nl The idea does not replace the work... Network/Security Specialist *BSD: Powered by Knowledge & Know-how To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 7 13:51:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004A1158D3; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:51:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nsayer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA84857; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:49:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:49:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904072049.NAA84857@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nsayer@quack.kfu.com, nsayer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/6036: New handbook section 10.4.3.4 - si driver config Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: New handbook section 10.4.3.4 - si driver config State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nsayer State-Changed-When: Wed Apr 7 13:49:19 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed handbook section To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 7 14:27:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (stampede.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.45.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0602D14A09; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:27:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca12-101.ix.netcom.com [205.186.214.229]) by stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA02229; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:25:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.2/8.6.9) id OAA80997; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904072125.OAA80997@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: silvia.hip.berkeley.edu: asami set sender to asami@cs.berkeley.edu using -f To: br@stiller.netland.inka.de Cc: nik@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199904070503.HAA03366@stiller.netland.inka.de> (message from Bernd Rosauer on Wed, 07 Apr 1999 07:03:51 +0200) Subject: Re: print/teTeX-beta port From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - the Wraith - Asami) References: <199904070503.HAA03366@stiller.netland.inka.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * From: Bernd Rosauer * > Ok. But in the meantime, will you mind if I commit the following * No, I wouldn't mind, of course. Ok, done. -PW (anxiously awaiting the "release" :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 7 19:22:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BAA214D3B for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:21:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA03316; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:20:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 0A06A14D3B; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:18:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990408021839.0A06A14D3B@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:18:39 -0700 (PDT) From: junkmale@xtra.co.nz To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/11015: handbook/mirrors-ftp.html missing NZ server Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11015 >Category: docs >Synopsis: handbook/mirrors-ftp.html missing NZ server >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Apr 7 19:20:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Dan Langille >Release: 3.1-stable >Organization: The FreeBSD Diary >Environment: >Description: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html could the following be added to the above URL please: New Zealand In case of problems, please contact the hostmaster for this domain. ftp://ftp.nz.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD >How-To-Repeat: n/a >Fix: n/a >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 2: 6:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E0515974 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 02:06:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id LAA23366 for doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:04:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id KAA00720; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:49:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-ID: <19990408104909.46700@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:49:09 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: [bruce@accumatics.com: typo in http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook.html] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Forwarded message from Bruce Grisham ----- Message-ID: <370C3DE6.3958F506@accumatics.com> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 01:25:58 -0400 From: Bruce Grisham Wolf, there's a small misspelling on this page: look for independant; it's spelled independent Don't mean to niggle. Take care. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 2:37:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from agora.neteze.com (agora.neteze.com [208.201.249.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E445615935 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 02:37:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trosen@neteze.com) Received: from support2 ([208.201.249.60]) by agora.neteze.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 30-54809U3000L300S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 02:36:58 -0700 Message-ID: <01e801be81a3$68cd9b30$3cf9c9d0@Neteze.com> From: "Robert Trosen" To: Subject: email Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 02:37:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01E5_01BE8168.BC628E30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01E5_01BE8168.BC628E30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable what program do you us for making email accounts and seting up edit rights for web sites and ftp sites thanks Robert trosen@neteze.com trosen@microweb.com=20 ------=_NextPart_000_01E5_01BE8168.BC628E30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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    ------=_NextPart_000_01E5_01BE8168.BC628E30-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 2:39:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from agora.neteze.com (agora.neteze.com [208.201.249.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936E11594B for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 02:39:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trosen@neteze.com) Received: from support2 ([208.201.249.60]) by agora.neteze.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 30-54809U3000L300S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 02:39:30 -0700 Message-ID: <01f101be81a3$c34e3f10$3cf9c9d0@Neteze.com> From: "Robert Trosen" To: Subject: unix Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 02:39:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01EE_01BE8169.16E1AB70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01EE_01BE8169.16E1AB70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable is there a book you think is sould get to tel me how to set rights on = web sites and=20 ftp sites and creating email accounts thanks robert trosen@neteze.com trosen@microweb.com=20 ------=_NextPart_000_01EE_01BE8169.16E1AB70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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    ------=_NextPart_000_01EE_01BE8169.16E1AB70-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 3:32: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F27315236 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 03:32:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id DAA03458; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 03:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw (Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw [140.113.122.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB7F15972 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 03:24:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ijliao@Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw) Received: (from ijliao@localhost) by Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA33950; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:22:24 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from ijliao) Message-Id: <199904081022.SAA33950@Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:22:24 +0800 (CST) From: Ying-Chieh Liao Reply-To: ijliao@Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11021: typo in lex man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11021 >Category: docs >Synopsis: typo in lex man page >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Apr 8 03:30:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ying-Chieh Liao >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: NCTU CSIE >Environment: FreeBSD Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #16: Sun Mar 21 12:54:31 CST 1999 root@Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw:/usr/src/sys/compile/TERRY i386 >Description: maybe there's a typo in lex man page.. [\-bcdfhilnpstvwBFILTV78+? might be [\-bcdfhilnpstvwBFILTV78+] >How-To-Repeat: man lex >Fix: --- /usr/src/usr.bin/lex/lex.1 Fri Oct 2 03:40:27 1998 +++ lex.1 Thu Apr 8 18:16:44 1999 @@ -3,7 +3,7 @@ flex \- fast lexical analyzer generator .SH SYNOPSIS .B flex -.B [\-bcdfhilnpstvwBFILTV78+? \-C[aefFmr] \-ooutput \-Pprefix \-Sskeleton] +.B [\-bcdfhilnpstvwBFILTV78+] \-C[aefFmr] \-ooutput \-Pprefix \-Sskeleton] .B [\-\-help \-\-version] .I [filename ...] .SH OVERVIEW >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 4:11:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.telekbird.com.cn (unknown [202.96.102.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5FD4150F8 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 04:10:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zxbzxb@telekbird.com.cn) Received: from zxb (ppp214-104.123.wz.zj.cninfo.net [10.104.123.214]) by smtp1.telekbird.com.cn (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA22366 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:55:57 +0800 Message-ID: <000c01be81b0$4621ccc0$1401caca@zxb> From: "=?gb2312?B?1qPP6bH5?=" To: Subject: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:09:11 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01BE81F3.48F98260" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BE81F3.48F98260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello: I'm a beginner to Unix,and I recently know the FreeBSD,and I want to = know something about it and wish you can send me some information . Regards! ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BE81F3.48F98260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
     
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    ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BE81F3.48F98260-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 5:32:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F6E14C28 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 05:32:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.12]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA03675; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:21:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.0) id OAA00737; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:21:47 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19990408142146.A29876@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:21:46 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Tom Hukins , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10099: Building the Web site without a local CVS repository References: <199904061710.KAA74145@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199904061710.KAA74145@freefall.freebsd.org>; from Tom Hukins on Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 10:10:02AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-04-06 10:10:02 -0700, Tom Hukins wrote: > --- en/copyright/Makefile.orig Sat Oct 17 11:18:42 1998 > +++ en/copyright/Makefile Sun Feb 14 18:00:47 1999 > @@ -16,7 +16,12 @@ > # FreeBSD Ports redistribution restrictions > LEGAL= LEGAL > CLEANFILES+= ${LEGAL} > +.if defined(NOCVS) should be .if defined(NOCVS) && !empty(NOCVS) similar for all other Makefiles. Without this patch there is no way to unset the variable NOCVS. -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 5:36:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951A1159DC for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 05:36:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.12]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04252; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:29:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.0) id OAA01445; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:29:23 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19990408142923.B29876@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:29:23 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Nik Clayton , Tom Hukins Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10099: Building the Web site without a local CVS repository References: <199904061710.KAA74145@freefall.freebsd.org> <19990407202741.C39696@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990407202741.C39696@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 08:27:41PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-04-07 20:27:41 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 10:10:02AM -0700, Tom Hukins wrote: > > I have been using this patch successfully for almost 2 months now. > > Is there any chance it might being committed soon? > > I've just been able to test this myself, with > > make -DENGLISH_ONLY -DNOCVS > > and it seems to work very well. I'm happy to commit this, with one > minor change, and that's to change "NOCVS" to "NO_PORTS_CVS" (or > possible "NOPORTSCVS". Why? Please read the Subject line! NOCVS means without a CVS tree, this include www and doc. > If I don't here a contrary opinion from anyone else in 24 hours I'll > go ahead. The PR is open for 7 weeks so it does not hurt if you wait 2 or 3 days ;-) -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 6: 2: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98653158E0 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:02:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id GAA15465; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pegasus.rz.tu-clausthal.de (pegasus.rz.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.2.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C721014C28 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 05:55:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from inof@pegasus.rz.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from inof@localhost) by pegasus.rz.tu-clausthal.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA63487; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:53:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from inof) Message-Id: <199904081253.OAA63487@pegasus.rz.tu-clausthal.de> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:53:33 +0200 (CEST) From: oliver.fromme@heim3.tu-clausthal.de Reply-To: oliver.fromme@heim3.tu-clausthal.de To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11022: Typo in limits(1) manual page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11022 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Typo in limits(1) manual page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Apr 8 06:00:02 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Oliver Fromme >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-19990318-STABLE i386 >Organization: Clausthal University of Technology >Environment: FreeBSD pegasus.rz.tu-clausthal.de 3.1-19990318-STABLE FreeBSD 3.1-19990318-STABLE #0: Wed Mar 24 19:19:25 CET 1999 inof@pegasus.rz.tu-clausthal.de:/usr/src/sys/compile/PEGASUS i386 >Description: Just a small typo (see the diff below, it's obvious). >How-To-Repeat: "man 1 limits" >Fix: *** usr/share/man/man1/limits.1.orig Thu Apr 8 14:43:50 1999 --- usr/share/man/man1/limits.1 Thu Apr 8 14:45:19 1999 *************** *** 52,58 **** .Op Ar command .Sh DESCRIPTION .Nm Limits ! ether prints or sets kernel resource limits, and may optionally set environment variables like .Xr env 1 and run a program with the selected resources. --- 52,58 ---- .Op Ar command .Sh DESCRIPTION .Nm Limits ! either prints or sets kernel resource limits, and may optionally set environment variables like .Xr env 1 and run a program with the selected resources. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 7: 2: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5204159FF for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:02:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id HAA69094; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from icc.surw.chel.su (surw.chel.su [195.54.2.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ABE4159FA for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:54:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@icc.surw.chel.su) Received: (from andy@localhost) by icc.surw.chel.su (8.9.2/8.8.8) id RAA43695; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:52:47 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from andy) Message-Id: <199904081352.RAA43695@icc.surw.chel.su> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:52:47 +0400 (MSD) From: Andrey Zakhvatov Reply-To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11025: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/misc.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11025 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/misc.sgml >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Apr 8 07:00:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrey Zakhvatov >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: South Ural Railway ICC >Environment: >Description: This is a patch to sync with English 1.15 begin 644 misc.diff M+2TM("]H;VUE+V%N9'DO;F-V2]N8W9S M+V1O8R]R=2]&05$O;6ES8RYS9VUL"51H=2!!<'(@(#@@,3'`@)"`M+3X**SPA+2T@)$ED M.B!M:7-C+G-G;6PL=B`Q+C$Q(#$Y.3DO,#0O,#@@,3,Z-#@Z-3$@86YD>2!% M>'`@)"`M+3X*(#PA+2T@5&AE($9R965"4T0@4G5S"X@\,_>QU,\@T,_-Q=W%SLG%(-/4 MTL'.RQ MQU,_"V2#5U\7,R=[)U-@@S\+?H\T@Q,_3U-70SL_* M(,;)VLG>Q=/+S\H@T,'-T=3)"BL@("`@("#$S-$@P"#6Q2#0Q=+%S<7=P<74(-/4TL'.RR\D@U,_,V,O/(-<@R]+!RL[%S2#3 MS-7>P<4N("#PS\S5WL'%S<_%(-?/($9R965"4T0**R`@("`@(-77QU,\L(,C/ MU-$@1G)E94)31"#0TL7$T,_>R=3!Q=0@R=/0S\S8VL_7P=38(-+!VL3%S"#0 MS\3+P=[+R2P**R`@("`@(,_.P2#.Q2#-S];%U"#3PM+/T\G4V"#7T\4@SL7! 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M5"X**PHK("`@(#QS96-T,3X**R`@("`@(#QH96%D:6YG/O[4SR#/VL[!WL'% MU"#3S\O2P=W%SLG%("="4T0G/SPO:&5A9&EN9SX**PHK("`@("`@/'`^_-3/ M(-//R]+!W<7.R<4@VL[!WLG4(-[4SRW4SR#.P2#3QU,\@T,72Q=?/Q"#3($)3 M1"`M(-S4SR#>U,\MU,\@S<76Q-4@)^O/S<'.Q,$**R`@("`@($9O"XG(#HM*0HK"BL@("`@("`\<#[E MT\S)(-/%TMBCVL[/+"#4SR!"4T0@T=?,T<74T]$@T\_+TL'=Q<[)Q"X*(`H@("`\+W-E8W0^"B`* ` end >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Please, check and apply this patch, but don't forget to say about syncing with English 1.15 in commit message. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 7:12: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD52E15A17 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:12:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id HAA70022; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from icc.surw.chel.su (surw.chel.su [195.54.2.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9B415A0B for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:05:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@icc.surw.chel.su) Received: (from andy@localhost) by icc.surw.chel.su (8.9.2/8.8.8) id SAA43918; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:03:32 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from andy) Message-Id: <199904081403.SAA43918@icc.surw.chel.su> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:03:32 +0400 (MSD) From: Andrey Zakhvatov Reply-To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11026: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/network.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11026 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/network.sgml >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Apr 8 07:10:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrey Zakhvatov >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: South Ural Railway ICC >Environment: >Description: This is a patch to sync with English 1.22 begin 644 network.diff M+2TM("]H;VUE+V%N9'DO;F-V2]N M8W9S+V1O8R]R=2]&05$O;F5T=V]R:RYS9VUL"51H=2!!<'(@(#@@,3'`@)"`M+3X**SPA M+2T@)$ED.B!N971W;W)K+G-G;6PL=B`Q+C$U(#$Y.3DO,#0O,#@@,3,Z-3DZ M-34@86YD>2!%>'`@)"`M+3X*(#PA+2T@5&AE($9R965"4T0@4G5SSLG+P2(^+"#0S]/7T=VCSL[9Q2!P<'`L(,$@U,'+UL4@T\_/U-?%U-/4 MU]7`W MR=3%(-#2S]3/R\_,R=+/U\'.R<4@R\_-P<[$S\H*(`H@("`@("`@/'9EHow-To-Repeat: >Fix: Please, check and apply this patch, but don't forget to say about syncing with English 1.22 in commit message. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 7:22: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D28115A26 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:22:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id HAA71207; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:20:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from icc.surw.chel.su (surw.chel.su [195.54.2.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FFF159FC for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:12:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@icc.surw.chel.su) Received: (from andy@localhost) by icc.surw.chel.su (8.9.2/8.8.8) id SAA44105; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:10:54 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from andy) Message-Id: <199904081410.SAA44105@icc.surw.chel.su> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:10:54 +0400 (MSD) From: Andrey Zakhvatov Reply-To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11027: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/preface.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11027 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/preface.sgml >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Apr 8 07:20:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrey Zakhvatov >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: South Ural Railway ICC >Environment: >Description: This is a patch to sync with English 1.31. begin 644 preface.diff M+2TM("]H;VUE+V%N9'DO;F-V2]N M8W9S+V1O8R]R=2]&05$O<')E9F%C92YS9VUL"51U92!!<'(@(#8@,3@Z-#4Z M-3$@,3DY.0I`0"`M,2PT("LQ+#0@0$`*+3PA+2T@)$ED.B!P'`@)"`M+3X* M*SPA+2T@)$ED.B!P2!%>'`@)"`M+3X*(#PA+2T@5&AE($9R965"4T0@4G5SRHow-To-Repeat: >Fix: Please, check and apply this patch, but don't forget to say about syncing with English 1.31 in commit message. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 8: 2: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3269A15A0C for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:02:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id IAA74708; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from heart-of-gold.ironbridgenetworks.com (ibn-host12.ironbridgenetworks.com [146.115.140.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE4515A06 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:53:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lowell@heart-of-gold.ironbridgenetworks.com) Received: (from lowell@localhost) by heart-of-gold.ironbridgenetworks.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id KAA37100; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:51:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lowell) Message-Id: <199904081451.KAA37100@heart-of-gold.ironbridgenetworks.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:51:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert Reply-To: Lowell Gilbert To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11028: release vs stable vs current Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11028 >Category: docs >Synopsis: new text for FAQ to explain branches >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Apr 8 08:00:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Lowell Gilbert >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386 >Organization: myself >Environment: current FAQ. >Description: There's been a lot of newbie confusion about the terms "release" "stable" and "current" lately. Here's some new text for the FAQ to help eliminate this confusion. >How-To-Repeat: Read -questions? :-) >Fix: [This probably isn't an optimal description either, but it's an improvement. The real trick would be to make clear the distinction between a -stable release, like 3.1-R, and the -stable code tree; in particular, making this clear to someone who's never used a source code control system of any sort. A lot of confusion is caused by the common use on the mailing lists of references to "3.1-STABLE", which is (pedantically) really more like "3-STABLE".] *** preface.sgml Sat Mar 27 10:48:06 1999 --- preface.sgml.new Wed Apr 7 13:29:52 1999 *************** *** 95,100 **** --- 95,110 ----

    Briefly explained, Releases are only made . While many people stay more up-to-date with the + FreeBSD sources (see the questions on and ) than that, doing so is more of a + commitment, as the sources are a moving target. What is FreeBSD-current? *************** *** 147,153 **** branches. ! What is the FreeBSD-stable concept?

    Back when FreeBSD 2.0.5 was released, we decided to branch FreeBSD development into two parts. One branch was named ! What is the FreeBSD-stable concept?

    Back when FreeBSD 2.0.5 was released, we decided to branch FreeBSD development into two parts. One branch was named ! When are FreeBSD releases made?

    As a general principle, the FreeBSD core team only release a new version of FreeBSD when they believe that there are sufficient new --- 206,212 ---- with the first 4.0 releases appearing in Q1 2000. ! When are FreeBSD releases made?

    As a general principle, the FreeBSD core team only release a new version of FreeBSD when they believe that there are sufficient new >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 8:49:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.kt.rim.or.jp (mail.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E9615B15 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:49:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp) Received: from moon.sky.rim.or.jp (ppp362.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.140.62]) by mail.kt.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id AAA24761 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 00:47:11 +0900 (JST) Received: from sky.rim.or.jp (earth.sky.rim.or.jp [192.168.1.2]) by moon.sky.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.5Wpl4/moon-1.0) with ESMTP id AAA04543 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 00:47:07 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <370CCF55.56732593@sky.rim.or.jp> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 00:46:29 +0900 From: Jun Kuriyama X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [ja] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doc Team Subject: Japanese Handbook Migration was completed. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I've finished migration of Japanese version of Handbook. If you find any mistake about this, please notify me. Thanks! -- Jun Kuriyama // kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp // kuriyama@FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 10:12: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486F115ABD for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:12:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id KAA84984; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904081710.KAA84984@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: From: Tom Hukins Subject: Re: docs/10997: Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi Reply-To: Tom Hukins Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/10997; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Hukins To: mharo@area51.fremont.ca.us Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/10997: Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:01:16 +0100 On Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 01:04:38AM -0700, mharo@area51.fremont.ca.us wrote: > > >Description: > > Doing a query where the originator contains a space gets converted into > a space from a + but not back into a + in the "Include closed reports too" link on the page. > > >Fix: > > something like this might work but there is probably a better way.... > $self_ref3 =~ s/ /+/g; Given that the script is written in Perl, a better fix might be to pass $self_ref4 through the URI::URL module. This would ensure special characters other than space are encoded properly. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 10:30:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD8D14EFD; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:30:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA15001; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:28:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:28:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Price To: Bill Fumerola Cc: Sue Blake , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, bugmaster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Organisation change for the Handbook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Bill Fumerola wrote: # The weekly 'Bugmaster' reports I(as do all committers) get mailed to us # saying "HEY! THESE ARE OPEN PRs!" motivate me everynow and then. I know # the ports list recieves open ports PRs, does the docs list recieve open # docs PRs? peter@freebsd.org setup the cron jobs that do the mailings. You might try asking him about them. -steve # - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - # - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - # # # # To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 10:43:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3770F151EA for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:43:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id KAA87706 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:41:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904081741.KAA87706@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1999/02/14] docs/10088 doc Documentation search results 1 problem total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [1997/12/21] docs/5358 doc USWC write posting must be turned off on o [1998/07/29] docs/7437 doc IPFW doco unclear about in/out o [1999/01/22] docs/9618 doc many typos in groff_mm(7) o [1999/02/12] docs/10059 doc MALLOC(9) manpage not updated to reflect o [1999/02/14] docs/10086 doc FAQ font too large o [1999/02/17] docs/10135 doc Change to Documention Regarding Upgrades o [1999/02/25] docs/10269 doc manpage have wrong information about syml o [1999/03/19] docs/10675 doc Add fix versions/date to web page o [1999/04/08] docs/11021 doc typo in lex man page 9 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1996/09/29] docs/1691 doc ppp server doc submission o [1997/05/13] conf/3590 doc FAQ gives bad reccomendation re: xdm s [1997/05/30] docs/3720 doc Addition for supported Hardware o [1997/10/23] docs/4833 doc Manual page missing for pccardc s [1998/01/15] docs/5487 doc Adding documentation for scsi(8) usage wi o [1998/04/14] docs/6295 doc Reference to nonexistent file in Device D o [1998/04/15] docs/6307 doc sgmlfmt not `make -jN' ready o [1998/05/04] docs/6508 doc sgmlfmt does not expand relative URLs o [1998/05/18] docs/6681 doc docu. addition o [1998/07/17] docs/7306 doc There is no manpage for timegm s [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated s [1998/08/10] docs/7567 doc pccardc has no man page o [1998/08/31] docs/7791 doc ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ip o [1998/09/03] docs/7819 doc nroff macro problem(miss reformated) in d o [1998/09/04] docs/7833 doc awk.1 contains typos. o [1998/09/13] docs/7914 doc no elf(5) manpage o [1998/10/25] docs/8445 doc Update of "Installing Mathematica on Free o [1998/10/27] docs/8464 doc Missing include file wh o [1998/11/02] docs/8547 doc Various updates to authors.sgml, printing o [1998/11/08] docs/8602 doc symlink(7) manpage says that file(1) has o [1998/11/08] docs/8611 doc kld man page o [1998/11/10] docs/8640 doc proposed change of 4.5 o [1998/11/14] docs/8682 doc some small bug fixes to ld.1 o [1998/11/19] docs/8765 doc some suggested text for describing passwo o [1998/11/24] docs/8858 doc man page for accept() is flawed o [1998/12/25] docs/9193 doc Incorrect release date for FreeBSD 2.0 in o [1998/12/28] docs/9228 doc AMD's texinfo doc doesn't get installed o [1999/01/01] docs/9264 doc Incorrectness in tsort(1) manpage. o [1999/01/02] docs/9276 doc Some typos and fragmented coincidence of o [1999/01/03] docs/9288 doc typo in doc/FAQ/preface.sgml o [1999/01/06] docs/9352 doc wrong macro names in groff_[ms|mm|mmse].7 o [1999/01/12] docs/9455 doc cvsup and ftp server in Czech Republic o [1999/01/24] docs/9658 doc tar(1) SYNOPSIS refinement o [1999/01/26] docs/9707 doc New entry for FAQ o [1999/01/29] docs/9773 doc Handbook 4.7.1.4. "Testing the port" is i o [1999/01/31] docs/9837 doc fix to doc/handbook/porting.sgml o [1999/02/01] docs/9854 doc undocumented ctype functions break stuff o [1999/02/06] docs/9940 doc mt.1 typo (right paren missing, and etc.) o [1999/02/08] docs/9960 doc man page for route doesn't mention defaul o [1999/02/10] docs/10017 doc Added a site and bug fix o [1999/02/11] docs/10038 doc Added a site and bug fix (part two) o [1999/02/14] docs/10080 doc Adding link to Daemon BSD case badges o [1999/02/14] docs/10082 doc Adding Pine Internet to Consultants page o [1999/02/14] docs/10083 doc Adding OpenWorld to Consulting services o [1999/02/14] docs/10084 doc new FreeBSD user group in Yogyakarta City o [1999/02/14] docs/10085 doc NIS Setup Tutorial o [1999/02/14] docs/10098 doc Lack of overall guide for NIS setup o [1999/02/15] docs/10099 doc Enables building FreeBSD Web site without o [1999/02/15] docs/10108 doc Addition to fstab.5 o [1999/02/18] docs/10146 doc Release Notes and LINT for 3.1 include ha o [1999/02/21] docs/10180 doc Another mirror site not listed... o [1999/02/21] docs/10182 doc http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?p o [1999/02/25] docs/10239 doc FreeBSD Mall o [1999/02/25] docs/10240 doc We need a script which check if our web m o [1999/02/25] docs/10242 doc Windsor Unix Users Group o [1999/02/25] docs/10256 doc handbook on cvsup... o [1999/03/01] docs/10331 doc pccardd(8) claims FreeBSD does not suppor o [1999/03/03] docs/10378 doc option -s missing in lptcontrol.8 o [1999/03/04] docs/10388 doc Obsolete information in Handbook o [1999/03/05] docs/10403 doc CDE is no longer sold by Xi Graphics. o [1999/03/05] docs/10408 doc [quasi-patch] Grammar nitpicks in Handboo o [1999/03/06] docs/10451 doc EDESTADDRREQ returnable by writev() but n o [1999/03/07] docs/10472 doc Mailing list for discussion of Xircom dri o [1999/03/07] docs/10474 doc A command line in a man document is incom o [1999/03/08] docs/10488 doc Error in entry for 02/27 in calendar.hist o [1999/03/08] docs/10494 doc arp(4) SYNOPSIS non typical expression o [1999/03/08] docs/10495 doc lo(4) SYNOPSIS non typical expression o [1999/03/08] docs/10500 doc spell error o [1999/03/09] docs/10512 doc ENOBUFS returnable from writev(2) but not o [1999/03/09] docs/10517 doc Missing manpage for /usr/bin/gensetdefs ( o [1999/03/15] docs/10605 doc nfsiod(8) references LKM mechanisms on 3. o [1999/03/16] docs/10624 doc typos/innacuracies in wfd(4) man page o [1999/03/18] docs/10659 doc Many syscall man pages have an IMPLEMENTA o [1999/03/18] docs/10660 doc User Group not listed o [1999/03/18] docs/10664 doc Notes on 2.2.8 -> 3.1 migration o [1999/03/19] docs/10684 doc Update doc: www/en/docproj/translations.s o [1999/03/21] docs/10704 doc strange sentence in doc/handbook/ctm.sgml a [1999/03/21] docs/10708 doc meteor.4 man page documentation problem. o [1999/03/23] docs/10762 doc geocrawler.com mailing list archives o [1999/03/24] docs/10771 doc [PATCH] ftpd manpage missing -A in synops o [1999/03/25] docs/10794 doc [Patch] typo in da(4) man page o [1999/03/26] docs/10799 doc [Patch] where.sgml o [1999/03/26] docs/10808 doc Fix bad internal links on www.freebsd.org o [1999/03/27] docs/10819 doc Documentation add o [1999/03/28] docs/10840 doc [PATCH] Add pcic double-loading bug fix t o [1999/03/28] docs/10841 doc typos in man page screen.4 (c -> n) o [1999/03/28] docs/10847 doc lpbb.4's PostScript output format is brok o [1999/03/29] docs/10850 doc submitting a documentation change for sed o [1999/03/30] docs/10877 doc manpage for objformat incorrectly mention o [1999/04/05] docs/10973 doc Patch: Have fsdb(8) man page refer correc o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/04/07] docs/11001 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/hackers.sgml o [1999/04/07] docs/11002 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/hardware.sgml o [1999/04/07] docs/11015 doc handbook/mirrors-ftp.html missing NZ serv o [1999/04/08] docs/11022 doc Typo in limits(1) manual page o [1999/04/08] docs/11025 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/misc.sgml o [1999/04/08] docs/11026 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/network.sgml o [1999/04/08] docs/11027 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/preface.sgml o [1999/04/08] docs/11028 doc new text for FAQ to explain branches 99 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 10:44: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804D415AF8 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:44:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id KAA87718 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:42:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904081742.KAA87718@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1999/02/14] docs/10088 doc Documentation search results 1 problem total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [1997/12/21] docs/5358 doc USWC write posting must be turned off on o [1998/07/29] docs/7437 doc IPFW doco unclear about in/out o [1999/01/22] docs/9618 doc many typos in groff_mm(7) o [1999/02/12] docs/10059 doc MALLOC(9) manpage not updated to reflect o [1999/02/14] docs/10086 doc FAQ font too large o [1999/02/17] docs/10135 doc Change to Documention Regarding Upgrades o [1999/02/25] docs/10269 doc manpage have wrong information about syml o [1999/03/19] docs/10675 doc Add fix versions/date to web page o [1999/04/08] docs/11021 doc typo in lex man page 9 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1996/09/29] docs/1691 doc ppp server doc submission o [1997/05/13] conf/3590 doc FAQ gives bad reccomendation re: xdm s [1997/05/30] docs/3720 doc Addition for supported Hardware o [1997/10/23] docs/4833 doc Manual page missing for pccardc s [1998/01/15] docs/5487 doc Adding documentation for scsi(8) usage wi o [1998/04/14] docs/6295 doc Reference to nonexistent file in Device D o [1998/04/15] docs/6307 doc sgmlfmt not `make -jN' ready o [1998/05/04] docs/6508 doc sgmlfmt does not expand relative URLs o [1998/05/18] docs/6681 doc docu. addition o [1998/07/17] docs/7306 doc There is no manpage for timegm s [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated s [1998/08/10] docs/7567 doc pccardc has no man page o [1998/08/31] docs/7791 doc ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ip o [1998/09/03] docs/7819 doc nroff macro problem(miss reformated) in d o [1998/09/04] docs/7833 doc awk.1 contains typos. o [1998/09/13] docs/7914 doc no elf(5) manpage o [1998/10/25] docs/8445 doc Update of "Installing Mathematica on Free o [1998/10/27] docs/8464 doc Missing include file wh o [1998/11/02] docs/8547 doc Various updates to authors.sgml, printing o [1998/11/08] docs/8602 doc symlink(7) manpage says that file(1) has o [1998/11/08] docs/8611 doc kld man page o [1998/11/10] docs/8640 doc proposed change of 4.5 o [1998/11/14] docs/8682 doc some small bug fixes to ld.1 o [1998/11/19] docs/8765 doc some suggested text for describing passwo o [1998/11/24] docs/8858 doc man page for accept() is flawed o [1998/12/25] docs/9193 doc Incorrect release date for FreeBSD 2.0 in o [1998/12/28] docs/9228 doc AMD's texinfo doc doesn't get installed o [1999/01/01] docs/9264 doc Incorrectness in tsort(1) manpage. o [1999/01/02] docs/9276 doc Some typos and fragmented coincidence of o [1999/01/03] docs/9288 doc typo in doc/FAQ/preface.sgml o [1999/01/06] docs/9352 doc wrong macro names in groff_[ms|mm|mmse].7 o [1999/01/12] docs/9455 doc cvsup and ftp server in Czech Republic o [1999/01/24] docs/9658 doc tar(1) SYNOPSIS refinement o [1999/01/26] docs/9707 doc New entry for FAQ o [1999/01/29] docs/9773 doc Handbook 4.7.1.4. "Testing the port" is i o [1999/01/31] docs/9837 doc fix to doc/handbook/porting.sgml o [1999/02/01] docs/9854 doc undocumented ctype functions break stuff o [1999/02/06] docs/9940 doc mt.1 typo (right paren missing, and etc.) o [1999/02/08] docs/9960 doc man page for route doesn't mention defaul o [1999/02/10] docs/10017 doc Added a site and bug fix o [1999/02/11] docs/10038 doc Added a site and bug fix (part two) o [1999/02/14] docs/10080 doc Adding link to Daemon BSD case badges o [1999/02/14] docs/10082 doc Adding Pine Internet to Consultants page o [1999/02/14] docs/10083 doc Adding OpenWorld to Consulting services o [1999/02/14] docs/10084 doc new FreeBSD user group in Yogyakarta City o [1999/02/14] docs/10085 doc NIS Setup Tutorial o [1999/02/14] docs/10098 doc Lack of overall guide for NIS setup o [1999/02/15] docs/10099 doc Enables building FreeBSD Web site without o [1999/02/15] docs/10108 doc Addition to fstab.5 o [1999/02/18] docs/10146 doc Release Notes and LINT for 3.1 include ha o [1999/02/21] docs/10180 doc Another mirror site not listed... o [1999/02/21] docs/10182 doc http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?p o [1999/02/25] docs/10239 doc FreeBSD Mall o [1999/02/25] docs/10240 doc We need a script which check if our web m o [1999/02/25] docs/10242 doc Windsor Unix Users Group o [1999/02/25] docs/10256 doc handbook on cvsup... o [1999/03/01] docs/10331 doc pccardd(8) claims FreeBSD does not suppor o [1999/03/03] docs/10378 doc option -s missing in lptcontrol.8 o [1999/03/04] docs/10388 doc Obsolete information in Handbook o [1999/03/05] docs/10403 doc CDE is no longer sold by Xi Graphics. o [1999/03/05] docs/10408 doc [quasi-patch] Grammar nitpicks in Handboo o [1999/03/06] docs/10451 doc EDESTADDRREQ returnable by writev() but n o [1999/03/07] docs/10472 doc Mailing list for discussion of Xircom dri o [1999/03/07] docs/10474 doc A command line in a man document is incom o [1999/03/08] docs/10488 doc Error in entry for 02/27 in calendar.hist o [1999/03/08] docs/10494 doc arp(4) SYNOPSIS non typical expression o [1999/03/08] docs/10495 doc lo(4) SYNOPSIS non typical expression o [1999/03/08] docs/10500 doc spell error o [1999/03/09] docs/10512 doc ENOBUFS returnable from writev(2) but not o [1999/03/09] docs/10517 doc Missing manpage for /usr/bin/gensetdefs ( o [1999/03/15] docs/10605 doc nfsiod(8) references LKM mechanisms on 3. o [1999/03/16] docs/10624 doc typos/innacuracies in wfd(4) man page o [1999/03/18] docs/10659 doc Many syscall man pages have an IMPLEMENTA o [1999/03/18] docs/10660 doc User Group not listed o [1999/03/18] docs/10664 doc Notes on 2.2.8 -> 3.1 migration o [1999/03/19] docs/10684 doc Update doc: www/en/docproj/translations.s o [1999/03/21] docs/10704 doc strange sentence in doc/handbook/ctm.sgml a [1999/03/21] docs/10708 doc meteor.4 man page documentation problem. o [1999/03/23] docs/10762 doc geocrawler.com mailing list archives o [1999/03/24] docs/10771 doc [PATCH] ftpd manpage missing -A in synops o [1999/03/25] docs/10794 doc [Patch] typo in da(4) man page o [1999/03/26] docs/10799 doc [Patch] where.sgml o [1999/03/26] docs/10808 doc Fix bad internal links on www.freebsd.org o [1999/03/27] docs/10819 doc Documentation add o [1999/03/28] docs/10840 doc [PATCH] Add pcic double-loading bug fix t o [1999/03/28] docs/10841 doc typos in man page screen.4 (c -> n) o [1999/03/28] docs/10847 doc lpbb.4's PostScript output format is brok o [1999/03/29] docs/10850 doc submitting a documentation change for sed o [1999/03/30] docs/10877 doc manpage for objformat incorrectly mention o [1999/04/05] docs/10973 doc Patch: Have fsdb(8) man page refer correc o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/04/07] docs/11001 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/hackers.sgml o [1999/04/07] docs/11002 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/hardware.sgml o [1999/04/07] docs/11015 doc handbook/mirrors-ftp.html missing NZ serv o [1999/04/08] docs/11022 doc Typo in limits(1) manual page o [1999/04/08] docs/11025 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/misc.sgml o [1999/04/08] docs/11026 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/network.sgml o [1999/04/08] docs/11027 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/preface.sgml o [1999/04/08] docs/11028 doc new text for FAQ to explain branches 99 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 11:25: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E4F14DA6; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:25:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from steve@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id LAA91761; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:23:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:23:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904081823.LAA91761@freefall.freebsd.org> To: steve@FreeBSD.org, gnats-admin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pending/11011: missing man page for arc4 related functions Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: missing man page for arc4 related functions Responsible-Changed-From-To: gnats-admin->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: steve Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Apr 8 11:22:31 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Misfiled PR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 11:53:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334BF15AE3 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:52:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA53861; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:38:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:38:11 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: Tom Hukins , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10099: Building the Web site without a local CVS repository Message-ID: <19990408193811.D39696@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199904061710.KAA74145@freefall.freebsd.org> <19990408142146.A29876@cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990408142146.A29876@cs.tu-berlin.de>; from Wolfram Schneider on Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 02:21:46PM +0200 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 02:21:46PM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > On 1999-04-06 10:10:02 -0700, Tom Hukins wrote: > > --- en/copyright/Makefile.orig Sat Oct 17 11:18:42 1998 > > +++ en/copyright/Makefile Sun Feb 14 18:00:47 1999 > > @@ -16,7 +16,12 @@ > > # FreeBSD Ports redistribution restrictions > > LEGAL= LEGAL > > CLEANFILES+= ${LEGAL} > > +.if defined(NOCVS) > > should be > > .if defined(NOCVS) && !empty(NOCVS) > > similar for all other Makefiles. > > Without this patch there is no way to unset the variable > NOCVS. I think this is only useful when you use the value of the variable somewhere. Tom's patches don't, they just care whether or not the variable has been defined, the value is never used. You would unset it by not defining it in the firstplace. I don't think www/Makefile should contain something like NOCVS=no and expect you to override that with "NOCVS=yes" on the command line, "-DNOCVS" is fine (although both would work). N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 12: 0:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A91014EC1 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:00:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA54356; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:42:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:42:07 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: Nik Clayton , Tom Hukins , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10099: Building the Web site without a local CVS repository Message-ID: <19990408194206.E39696@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199904061710.KAA74145@freefall.freebsd.org> <19990407202741.C39696@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990408142923.B29876@cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990408142923.B29876@cs.tu-berlin.de>; from Wolfram Schneider on Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 02:29:23PM +0200 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 02:29:23PM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > On 1999-04-07 20:27:41 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > and it seems to work very well. I'm happy to commit this, with one > > minor change, and that's to change "NOCVS" to "NO_PORTS_CVS" (or > > possible "NOPORTSCVS". > > Why? Please read the Subject line! NOCVS means without a CVS > tree, this include www and doc. Right. But the existing Makefiles (or at least Tom's patches to them) don't expect a local doc CVS repository either. They expect ../doc to exist relative to the website directory, but that seems to be assumed to be a pre-existing checked out version from the repository, not a copy of the repository itself. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 12: 3:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAEB914CCB for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:03:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.12]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA15863; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:56:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.0) id UAA11907; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:56:53 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19990408205652.A11500@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:56:52 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Nik Clayton Cc: Tom Hukins , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10099: Building the Web site without a local CVS repository References: <199904061710.KAA74145@freefall.freebsd.org> <19990407202741.C39696@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990408142923.B29876@cs.tu-berlin.de> <19990408194206.E39696@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990408194206.E39696@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 07:42:07PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-04-08 19:42:07 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 02:29:23PM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > On 1999-04-07 20:27:41 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > > and it seems to work very well. I'm happy to commit this, with one > > > minor change, and that's to change "NOCVS" to "NO_PORTS_CVS" (or > > > possible "NOPORTSCVS". > > > > Why? Please read the Subject line! NOCVS means without a CVS > > tree, this include www and doc. > > Right. But the existing Makefiles (or at least Tom's patches to them) > don't expect a local doc CVS repository either. Currently not, but this may change in the future. Wolfram > They expect ../doc > to exist relative to the website directory, but that seems to be > assumed to be a pre-existing checked out version from the repository, > not a copy of the repository itself. -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 12:16:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48EEA14DF6 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:16:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.12]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA16750; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:08:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.0) id VAA13002; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:08:53 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19990408210852.B11500@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:08:52 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Nik Clayton Cc: Tom Hukins , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10099: Building the Web site without a local CVS repository References: <199904061710.KAA74145@freefall.freebsd.org> <19990408142146.A29876@cs.tu-berlin.de> <19990408193811.D39696@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990408193811.D39696@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 07:38:11PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-04-08 19:38:11 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 02:21:46PM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > On 1999-04-06 10:10:02 -0700, Tom Hukins wrote: > > > --- en/copyright/Makefile.orig Sat Oct 17 11:18:42 1998 > > > +++ en/copyright/Makefile Sun Feb 14 18:00:47 1999 > > > @@ -16,7 +16,12 @@ > > > # FreeBSD Ports redistribution restrictions > > > LEGAL= LEGAL > > > CLEANFILES+= ${LEGAL} > > > +.if defined(NOCVS) > > > > should be > > > > .if defined(NOCVS) && !empty(NOCVS) > > > > similar for all other Makefiles. > > > > Without this patch there is no way to unset the variable > > NOCVS. > > I think this is only useful when you use the value of the variable > somewhere. Tom's patches don't, they just care whether or not the > variable has been defined, the value is never used. > > You would unset it by not defining it in the firstplace. I don't think > www/Makefile should contain something like > > NOCVS=no Not in www/Makefile, but it can be set in www/Makefile.inc or www/Makefile.inc.local (not implemente yet) Now there is no way on the commandline to unset the variable because make has no -U option. I don't want edit Makefile.inc every time if I test something. Wolfram > and expect you to override that with "NOCVS=yes" on the command line, > "-DNOCVS" is fine (although both would work). > > N > -- > Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 14:11:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E7814D06 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:11:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id UAA61218; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:35:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:35:48 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: Doc Team Subject: Re: Japanese Handbook Migration was completed. Message-ID: <19990408203548.F39696@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <370CCF55.56732593@sky.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <370CCF55.56732593@sky.rim.or.jp>; from Jun Kuriyama on Fri, Apr 09, 1999 at 12:46:29AM +0900 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Apr 09, 1999 at 12:46:29AM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > Hi! I've finished migration of Japanese version of Handbook. Excellent. Hell, it only took us a year :-) N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 14:52:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E79814E28 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:52:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id WAA77092; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:39:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:39:54 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: Nik Clayton , Tom Hukins , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10099: Building the Web site without a local CVS repository Message-ID: <19990408223954.A76659@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199904061710.KAA74145@freefall.freebsd.org> <19990407202741.C39696@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990408142923.B29876@cs.tu-berlin.de> <19990408194206.E39696@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990408205652.A11500@cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990408205652.A11500@cs.tu-berlin.de>; from Wolfram Schneider on Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 08:56:52PM +0200 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 08:56:52PM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > On 1999-04-08 19:42:07 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 02:29:23PM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > > On 1999-04-07 20:27:41 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > > > and it seems to work very well. I'm happy to commit this, with one > > > > minor change, and that's to change "NOCVS" to "NO_PORTS_CVS" (or > > > > possible "NOPORTSCVS". > > > > > > Why? Please read the Subject line! NOCVS means without a CVS > > > tree, this include www and doc. > > > > Right. But the existing Makefiles (or at least Tom's patches to them) > > don't expect a local doc CVS repository either. > > Currently not, but this may change in the future. Right. For example, I maintain a local copy of the doc repository, but not a local copy of the ports repository. So if you ever do this, I'd set "NOPORTSCVS" but not "NODOCCVS". Of course, in an ideal world, you'd just set CVSROOT, and the Makefile figures out for itself which repositories you have locally. . . I'll commit with NOPORTSCVS, and think about the latter scenario (unless anyone else wants to consider it, and come up with patches). N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 14:53:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F328614CAF; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:53:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA05044; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:51:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:51:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904082151.OAA05044@freefall.freebsd.org> To: tom@eborcom.com, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10099: Enables building FreeBSD Web site without local CVS repository Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Enables building FreeBSD Web site without local CVS repository State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Thu Apr 8 14:44:54 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, with minor change (NOCVS -> NOPORTSCVS). Thanks, and sorry for the delay in committing. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 15:52: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B9D14F63 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:52:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id PAA08815; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:50:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904082250.PAA08815@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: From: "Matthew D. Fuller" Subject: Re: docs/11028: release vs stable vs current Reply-To: "Matthew D. Fuller" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/11028; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Lowell Gilbert Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11028: release vs stable vs current Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:48:38 -0500 On Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 10:51:49AM -0400, a little birdie told me that Lowell Gilbert remarked > > [This probably isn't an optimal description either, but it's an > improvement. The real trick would be to make clear the distinction > between a -stable release, like 3.1-R, and the -stable code tree; in > particular, making this clear to someone who's never used a source > code control system of any sort. A lot of confusion is caused by the > common use on the mailing lists of references to "3.1-STABLE", which > is (pedantically) really more like "3-STABLE".] Side note: I've always prefered that way; I still refer to the systems here as 2.2-STABLE, since they're along the -STABLE 2.2 branch. Naming them after the latest release along the branch always seemed rather counter-intuitive and strange to me. I understand the reasoning behind it, but I still prefer the branch designation. > *** preface.sgml Sat Mar 27 10:48:06 1999 > --- preface.sgml.new Wed Apr 7 13:29:52 1999 > *************** > *** 95,100 **** > --- 95,110 ---- >

    Briefly explained, corporate user who wants stability and a low change count over > the wizzy new features of the latest + Releases can come from either "branch," but you should only use > + + relative instability (relative to ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:14:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ugoretzc@csd.uwm.edu) Received: from alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (ugoretzc@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu [129.89.7.202]) by batch3.csd.uwm.edu (8.8.4/8.6.8) with ESMTP id UAA18134 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:12:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (ugoretzc@localhost) by alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (8.8.4/8.6.8) with SMTP id UAA29857 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:12:23 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:12:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Craig Steven Ugoretz To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Documentation for sockets, TCP/IP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am a student at the University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee and I am taking a course on computer networks. I am working on a final project involving client - server software to reduce the impact of dropped packets in a network. The university has source code for TCP/IP but no documentation except some comments in the source code. It does not have source code for sockets and related UNIX system calls (networking). An advanced project requires "hacking" into TCP/IP to implement program functionality. Can you tell me how to get source code for the system calls and documentation for both the system calls and TCP/IP? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 18:20:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354AF1596F for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:20:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip189.houston13.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.27.213.189]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D597F3707A; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:18:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA31127; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:18:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:18:33 -0500 From: Chris Costello To: Craig Steven Ugoretz Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Documentation for sockets, TCP/IP Message-ID: <19990408201833.A31086@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: chris@calldei.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: ; from Craig Steven Ugoretz on Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 08:12:23PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 8, 1999, Craig Steven Ugoretz wrote: > I am a student at the University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee and I am taking > a course on computer networks. I am working on a final project involving > client - server software to reduce the impact of dropped packets in a > network. The university has source code for TCP/IP but no documentation > except some comments in the source code. It does not have source code for > sockets and related UNIX system calls (networking). An advanced project > requires "hacking" into TCP/IP to implement program functionality. Can > you tell me how to get source code for the system calls and documentation > for both the system calls and TCP/IP? It sounds like you're involved in an interesting project. The socket interface in FreeBSD (and other operating systems blessed with BSD code) is well documented in the manual pages (man socket, man connect, etc), and the source code is availible with FreeBSD, including sockets. If you have a FreeBSD system availible, check if you can look through /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_syscalls.c, and look at the various functions for what you may need the source code to. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > -Chris -- ============================================= * "This process can check if this value is * * zero, and if it is, it does something * * child-like." -Forbes Burkowski, CS 454 * ============================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 8 18:33: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 748A214CD1; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:32:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA23150; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:00:54 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id LAA24169; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:00:53 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19990409110053.U2142@lemis.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:00:53 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Craig Steven Ugoretz Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Documentation for sockets, TCP/IP References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Craig Steven Ugoretz on Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 08:12:23PM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [redirected to -questions] On Thursday, 8 April 1999 at 20:12:23 -0500, Craig Steven Ugoretz wrote: > I am a student at the University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee and I am taking > a course on computer networks. I am working on a final project involving > client - server software to reduce the impact of dropped packets in a > network. The university has source code for TCP/IP but no documentation > except some comments in the source code. It does not have source code for > sockets and related UNIX system calls (networking). An advanced project > requires "hacking" into TCP/IP to implement program functionality. Can > you tell me how to get source code for the system calls and documentation > for both the system calls and TCP/IP? Well, since you apparently don't intend to create this documentation, this question really belongs in -questions, not -doc. Get a copy of "TCP/IP Illustrated", at least volume 2, by Richard Stevens. You'll find it in your local university bookshop. It's an excellent book and describes the TCP/IP implementation in great detail. In view of your project, you might also take a look at the same author's "UNIX Network Programming", which I can also heartily recommend. For the complete FreeBSD source code, go to http://www.FreeBSD.org/ and read the links. I'm deliberately pointing you to the home page because you'll find a lot of things to look at there. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 9 0: 2:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CDA15A9B for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 00:02:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id HAA26362; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:53:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:53:19 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: Nik Clayton , Tom Hukins , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10099: Building the Web site without a local CVS repository Message-ID: <19990409075319.A74921@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199904061710.KAA74145@freefall.freebsd.org> <19990408142146.A29876@cs.tu-berlin.de> <19990408193811.D39696@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990408210852.B11500@cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990408210852.B11500@cs.tu-berlin.de>; from Wolfram Schneider on Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 09:08:52PM +0200 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 09:08:52PM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > You would unset it by not defining it in the firstplace. I don't think > > www/Makefile should contain something like > > > > NOCVS=no > > Not in www/Makefile, but it can be set in www/Makefile.inc or > www/Makefile.inc.local (not implemente yet) > > Now there is no way on the commandline to unset the > variable because make has no -U option. Right. But you don't need to unset it, because it defaults to unset. Right now, % cd www % make links % cd en % make -DENGLISH_ONLY works as it always has done (you could write "make ENGLISH_ONLY=yes" if you wanted, but it doesn't matter). If you want the new functionality you either have to edit Makefile or Makefile.inc to define NOPORTSCVS, or do % make -DENGLISH_ONLY -DNOPORTSCVS or % make ENGLISH_ONLY=yes NOPORTSCVS=yes This is the same way the NOCLEANDEPENDS variable is handled in bsd.port.mk, for example. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 9 4:32: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B94E15290 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 04:32:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id EAA67994; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 04:30:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from icc.surw.chel.su (surw.chel.su [195.54.2.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB2314F9B for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 04:22:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@icc.surw.chel.su) Received: (from andy@localhost) by icc.surw.chel.su (8.9.2/8.8.8) id PAA52679; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:20:29 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from andy) Message-Id: <199904091120.PAA52679@icc.surw.chel.su> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:20:29 +0400 (MSD) From: Andrey Zakhvatov Reply-To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11042: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/commercial.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11042 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/commercial.sgml >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Apr 9 04:30:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrey Zakhvatov >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: South Ural Railway ICC >Environment: >Description: This is a patch to sync with English 1.4 begin 644 commercial.diff M+2TM("]H;VUE+V%N9'DO;F-V2]N8W9S+V1O8R]R=2]&05$O8V]M;65R8VEA;"YS9VUL"49R:2!!<'(@(#D@ M,34Z,3(Z,3@@,3DY.0I`0"`M,2PT("LQ+#0@0$`*+3PA+2T@)$ED.B!C;VUM M97)C:6%L+G-G;6PL=B`Q+C(@,3DY.2\P-"\P-2`Q,#HP,3HT."!W;W-C:"!% M>'`@)"`M+3X**SPA+2T@)$ED.B!C;VUM97)C:6%L+G-G;6PL=B`Q+C,@,3DY M.2\P-"\P.2`Q,3HQ,CHQ."!A;F1Y($5X<"`D("TM/@H@/"$M+2!4:&4@1G)E M94)31"!2=7-S:6%N($1O8W5M96YT871I;VX@4')O:F5C="`M+3X*(`H@("`\ M&EG(B!N86UE/2)8:2!'Q<[9.@HK("`@("`@/&ET96UI>F4^"BL@("`@("`@("`\:71E;3Y/ M4T8O36]T:68@;6%N86=E&UB:6YD+"!P86YN97(L('=S;2X**PHK("`@ M("`@("`@/&ET96T^\,'+Q=0@TL':TL'"S]3>R"P@QL'*S,'-R2!I;F-L=61E"BL@("`@("`@("#)($EM86ME+@HK M"BL@("`@("`@("`\:71E;3[SU,'4R=[%T\O)Q2#)(,3)SL'-R=[%T\O)Q2!% M3$8MPLG"S,G/U,7+R2`HQ,S1(,G3T,_,V-K/U\'.R=$**R`@("`@("`@(-,@ M1G)E94)31"`S+C`@R2#7V=O%*2X**PHK("`@("`@("`@/&ET96T^Y,7-S\[3 MU-+!P\G/SL[9Q2#0TLG,S];%SLG1+@HK("`@("`@/"]I=&5M:7IE/@HK"BL@ M("`@("`\<#[PTLD@S\;/TLW,Q<[)R2#:PP=38(-3/S-C+SR#0SR!&5%`^"BL**R`@("`@ M(#QD97-C&TL('AM8WAX+"#&PSLG+P2X**R`@("`@(#PO M:71E;6EZ93X*(`HK("`@("`@/'`^\-+)(-K!R\':Q2#/PM':P=3%S-C.SR#/ MU,W%U-C4Q2P@WM3/(-?!S2#4TL7"U<74T]$@U\72T\G1($UO=&EF"BL@("`@ M("#)S<7.SL\@Q,S1($9R965"4T0A("`\96T^365TR=?!SLG1(-#/($944"X* M*PHK("`@("`@/'`^[\+2P=3)U,73V"#7(,;)TLW5(#QR968@:60](GAI9R(@ M;F%M93TB6&D@1W)A<&AI8W,B/B#:P2#$R=/4TLG"U=3)U\_-"BL@("`@("!- M;W1I9B`R+C`@Q,S1($9R965"4T0@UR#&S]+-P=3%(&$N;W5T+@HK(`H@("`@ M("`@/'`^]R#Q<[9.@H@("`@("`@/&ET M96UI>F4^"B`@("`@("`@("`\:71E;3Y/4T8O36]T:68@;6%N86=E&UB M:6YD+"!P86YN97(L('=S;2X*(`HM("`@("`@("`@/&ET96T^Z\_-T,S%R]0@ MTL':TL'"S]3>R"P@QL'*S,'-R2!I M;F-L=61E"BL@("`@("`@("`\:71E;3[PP&TL('AM8WAX+"#&PH\X@36]T:68@,2XR+C4L(,D@Q"X**R`*("`@("`\Q=/+R<4@U]G3S\O/T-+/R=K7 MS\3)U,7,V,[9Q2!8+=/%TM?%TMD_"BT@("`@("`@($%R92!T:&5R92!A;GD@ M8V]M;65R8VEA;"!H:6=H+7!E&EG(CX**PHK("`@("`@ M/'`^365T"(^"BL**R`@("`@(#QP/DUE=')O($QI M;FL@T-+/Q,&CU"#4PU-D@S]3$QR=?!Q=0@T-+/T]35P"#+S\[&RHow-To-Repeat: >Fix: Please, check and apply this patch, but don't forget to say about syncing with English 1.4 in commit message. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: >("`@(#PO9&5S8W)I<#X*(`H@("`\+W-E8W0^"BT* ` end To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 9 4:42: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B045314FD2 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 04:42:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id EAA68560; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 04:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from icc.surw.chel.su (surw.chel.su [195.54.2.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B2B14EB1 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 04:39:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@icc.surw.chel.su) Received: (from andy@localhost) by icc.surw.chel.su (8.9.2/8.8.8) id PAA54525; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:37:43 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from andy) Message-Id: <199904091137.PAA54525@icc.surw.chel.su> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:37:43 +0400 (MSD) From: Andrey Zakhvatov Reply-To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11043: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/x.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11043 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/x.sgml >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Apr 9 04:40:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrey Zakhvatov >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: South Ural Railway ICC >Environment: >Description: This is a patch to sync with English 1.7 begin 644 x.diff M+2TM("]H;VUE+V%N9'DO;F-V"YS9VUL"51U M92!$96,@,CD@,#$Z,C`Z,#`@,3DY.`HK*RL@+VAO;64O86YD>2]N8W9S+V1O M8R]R=2]&05$O>"YS9VUL"49R:2!!<'(@(#D@,34Z,S0Z-#,@,3DY.0I`0"`M M,2PT("LQ+#0@0$`*+3PA+2T@)$ED.B!X+G-G;6PL=B`Q+C$@,3DY."\Q,B\R M."`Q.3HR,#HP-"!A8VAE($5X<"`D("TM/@HK/"$M+2`D260Z('@N&8X-F-O;F9I9R(^+"#+S]3/TL'1(-#2Q<3.P=K.P=[%SL$@Q,S1(,O/SL;) MQ]72R=+/U\'.R=$@TL'"S]39"B`@("`@("!81G)E93@V*'1M*2#3(-?!V\G- M(,?2P<;)WL73R\G-(,'$P=#4Q=+/S2_-V=O8P"_)U,0N"B`*+2`@("`@(#QP M/O?9(,W/UL74Q2#4PRelease-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 9 6:13:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31FE14F20 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:13:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lowell@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (STD1.2/BZS-8-1.0) id JAA10484; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:11:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA24204; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:11:44 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:11:44 -0400 Message-Id: <199904091311.AA24204@world.std.com> From: Lowell Gilbert To: fullermd@futuresouth.com Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990408174838.C11572@futuresouth.com> (fullermd@futuresouth.com) Subject: Re: docs/11028: release vs stable vs current References: <199904081451.KAA37100@heart-of-gold.ironbridgenetworks.com> <19990408174838.C11572@futuresouth.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:48:38 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" Side note: I've always prefered that way; I still refer to the systems here as 2.2-STABLE, since they're along the -STABLE 2.2 branch. Naming them after the latest release along the branch always seemed rather counter-intuitive and strange to me. I understand the reasoning behind it, but I still prefer the branch designation. If everybody did that, there wouldn't be any confusion. In practice, I'm not sure it really helps, particularly for newcomers. The current wording in that section tries to finesse the question completely. I think that's the right thing, and I tried to follow suit while still reducing the confusion that produced a couple of questions from new users within the last week. > *** preface.sgml Sat Mar 27 10:48:06 1999 > --- preface.sgml.new Wed Apr 7 13:29:52 1999 > *************** > *** 95,100 **** > --- 95,110 ---- >

    Briefly explained, corporate user who wants stability and a low change count over > the wizzy new features of the latest + Releases can come from either "branch," but you should only use > + + relative instability (relative to ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:42:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schweikh@obsidian.noc.dfn.de) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by obsidian.noc.dfn.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA09273 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:40:46 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jens Schweikhardt Message-Id: <199904091440.QAA09273@obsidian.noc.dfn.de> Subject: Bogus email address in Handbook To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:40:46 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Handbook Editor, thanks for the acknowledgements in the Handbook under Additional Developers. However, for some reason, the chosen email address is one that has been defunct for years (way back when I was at the university). Please change Jens Schweikhardt to Jens Schweikhardt Thanks! Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.shuttle.de/schweikh/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 9 14:39:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA78B162A1; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:39:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA32699; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:27:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:27:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904092127.OAA32699@freefall.freebsd.org> To: software@kew.com, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/7567: pccardc has no man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: pccardc has no man page State-Changed-From-To: suspended->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Fri Apr 9 14:27:21 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Duplicate of docs/4833. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 9 14:40:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BF6162A5; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:39:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA31604; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:19:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:19:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904092119.OAA31604@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, dwhite@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/1691: ppp server doc submission Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: ppp server doc submission Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dwhite Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Apr 9 14:19:26 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: One of yours Doug, do with it what you will. . . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 9 14:40:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF36162A6; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:39:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA31522; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:19:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:19:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904092119.OAA31522@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sjr@home.net, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10675: Add fix versions/date to web page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Add fix versions/date to web page State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Fri Apr 9 14:18:44 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Supplied patch has been applied, but PR wasn't closed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 9 14:40:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C59B151E9; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:39:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA32528; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:26:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:26:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904092126.OAA32528@freefall.freebsd.org> To: doconnor@gsoft.com.au, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/7306: There is no manpage for timegm Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: There is no manpage for timegm State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Fri Apr 9 14:25:31 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: There is now! Part of ctime(3). "man 3 timegm" works. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 9 14:41:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910CE15EAE; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:39:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA32609; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:27:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:27:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904092127.OAA32609@freefall.freebsd.org> To: seggers@semyam.dinoco.de, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/7456: dialog(3) man page outdated Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: dialog(3) man page outdated State-Changed-From-To: suspended->analyzed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Fri Apr 9 14:26:19 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: There's been a new version of dialog important in to the tree. Does the new manual page fix the problem? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 9 14:41:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E395162A8; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:39:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA31352; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:17:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:17:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904092117.OAA31352@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10086: FAQ font too large Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: FAQ font too large State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Fri Apr 9 14:17:01 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: The font is supposed to be this large, those are headings. Also, the DocBook conversion willchange this (probably, from your POV for the better). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 9 14:41:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9F3162A9; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:39:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA31700; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:21:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:21:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904092121.OAA31700@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, dwite@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/3590: FAQ gives bad reccomendation re: xdm Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: FAQ gives bad reccomendation re: xdm Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dwite Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Apr 9 14:20:10 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: FAQ text appears to have changed, but it doesn't contain the full explanation from the PR. Either close the PR, or re-assign back to doc, with a note that the text needs improving. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 9 14:41:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE84162AA; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:39:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA31450; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:18:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:18:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904092118.OAA31450@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jim_early@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10135: Change to Documention Regarding Upgrades Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Change to Documention Regarding Upgrades State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Fri Apr 9 14:17:51 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Is this still teh case? src/Makefile's comment implies that "make upgrade" is only for the 2.2 -> 3.x transition. Whenever I've rebuilt the world, I've always used "make world" and not "make upgrade". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 9 14:41:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A37115E92; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:39:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA32384; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:25:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:25:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904092125.OAA32384@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/6508: sgmlfmt does not expand relative URLs Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: sgmlfmt does not expand relative URLs State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Fri Apr 9 14:24:15 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: You can't use relative URLs in the Handbook / FAQ, because you don't know where it's going to be installed relative to the rest of the website (or even *if* it's going to be installed with the rest of the website). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 9 14:41:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF3A162AB; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:39:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA32094; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:24:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:24:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904092124.OAA32094@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nate@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/4833: Manual page missing for pccardc Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Manual page missing for pccardc Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nate Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Apr 9 14:23:13 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: iNate, I seem to recall you are (or were) Mr Mobile. Not having a laptop, I don't even know if this is appropriate any more. If it is, can you reassign it back to -doc, and I'll drop a message in -mobile asking for volunteers. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 9 14:41:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70DC162AD; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:39:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA31916; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:22:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:22:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904092122.OAA31916@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ats@freebsd.first.gmd.de, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/3720: Addition for supported Hardware Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Addition for supported Hardware State-Changed-From-To: suspended->analyzed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Fri Apr 9 14:21:49 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Is this still the case? If so, I'll commit it. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Apr 9 14:21:49 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll comit as necessary. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 9 14:41:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D66A162B0; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:39:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA30889; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:15:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:15:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904092115.OAA30889@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dillon@backplane.com, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/5358: USWC write posting must be turned off on PPro motherboards Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: USWC write posting must be turned off on PPro motherboards State-Changed-From-To: analyzed->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Fri Apr 9 14:13:13 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Warning added in sys/i386/conf/LINT:1.576. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 9 14:41:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3EE162B7; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:39:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA31161; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:16:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:16:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904092116.OAA31161@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, dillon@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10059: MALLOC(9) manpage not updated to reflect changes in rev 1.40 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: MALLOC(9) manpage not updated to reflect changes in rev 1.40 Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dillon Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Apr 9 14:15:31 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: You were the last person to make a technical content (as oppossed to formatting) change to this file, so you're probably better qualified to either (a) write the text recommended by the submitter, or (b) reassign the responsibility to someone who can. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 9 15: 6:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830A414DE4 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:42:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA33528; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from icicle.winternet.com (icicle.winternet.com [198.174.169.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF8915C58 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:49:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nrahlstr@winternet.com) Received: from portage.winternet.com (ppp-67-16.dialup.winternet.com [204.246.67.16]) by icicle.winternet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10641 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:12:30 -0500 (CDT) SMTP "HELO" (ESMTP) greeting from portage.winternet.com But _really_ from :: ppp-67-16.dialup.winternet.com [204.246.67.16] SMTP "MAIL From" = nrahlstr@winternet.com (Nathan Ahlstrom) SMTP "RCPT To" = Received: (from nrahlstr@localhost) by portage.winternet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA02976; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:13:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nrahlstr) Message-Id: <199904091813.NAA02976@portage.winternet.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:13:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Nathan Ahlstrom Reply-To: nrahlstr@winternet.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11046: [PATCH] Add tag=RELENG_3_1_0_RELEASE as a valid tag to the handbook. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11046 >Category: docs >Synopsis: RELENG_3_1_0_RELEASE is not mentioned in the handbook. >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Apr 9 14:40:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Nathan Ahlstrom >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD portage.winternet.com 3.1-STABLE FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE #3: Thu Apr 1 19:55:12 CST 1999 root@inferno.winternet.com:/net/portage/usr/src_kernel/sys/compile/PORTAGE i386 >Description: This web page http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/synching.html#CVSUP fails to mention RELENG_3_1_0_RELEASE as a valid cvsup option. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Apply this patch to handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml. Thanks. --- chapter.sgml.orig Fri Apr 9 12:47:25 1999 +++ chapter.sgml Fri Apr 9 12:47:25 1999 @@ -1357,6 +1357,15 @@ + tag=RELENG_3_1_0_RELEASE + + + FreeBSD-3.1. Not valid for the ports-* + collections. + + + + tag=RELENG_3_0_0_RELEASE >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 9 15:49:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (mail.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19EC014A12; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:49:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kelly@plutotech.com) Received: from plutotech.com (kelly@tampopo.plutotech.com [206.168.67.161]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA59667; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:47:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from kelly@plutotech.com) Message-ID: <370E8382.86C198B5@plutotech.com> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:47:30 -0600 From: Sean Kelly Organization: Pluto Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nik@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/3590: FAQ gives bad reccomendation re: xdm References: <199904092121.OAA31700@freefall.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Go, Nik, Go!! There are only a couple left! :-) --Sean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 9 20:30:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from aauu.aaweber.com (cs9343-148.austin.rr.com [24.93.43.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72EE514D28; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:30:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aaweber@austin.rr.com) Received: (from aaweber@localhost) by aauu.aaweber.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA12756; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 22:28:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 22:28:33 -0500 From: Alan Weber To: doc@freeBSD.org Cc: advocacy@freeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD Solutions Cookbook (proposal) Message-ID: <19990409222832.A12535@austin.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a suggestion for a new kind of document that would parallel the Handbook and FAQ. I am suggesting that a "COOKBOOK" be created with "RECIPES" for common FreeBSD applications. I am listing below some of the types of recipes that I am thinking of: 1. Web Server FreeBSD 3.1 Apache 1.3.4 (variants with FP/SSL, etc.) 2. Dialup Gateway FreeBSD 3.1 PPP -alias -auto Bind 8.x Caching/Local DNS DHCPD (optional) 3. CableModem Gateway FreeBSD 3.1, ISC DHCLIENT, NATD, Bind 8.x Caching/Local DNS 4. DataBase Server FreeBSD 3.1 MySQL/POSTGRES/ORACLE(LINUX)/SOLID/etc. ODBC clients 5. Secondary DNS FreeBSD 3.1 Bind 8.x 6. File Server FreeBSD 3.1 Samba Bind 8.x DHCPD (optional) 7. Mail Server FreeBSD 3.1 SendMail/qmail/etc. Bind 8.x 8. Dial-up Gateway FreeBSD 3.1 PPP 9. Desktop Workstation FreeBSD 3.1 XFREE WindowMaker Netscape StarOffice Word Perfect GIMP 10.Game server. FreeBSD 3.1 Quake/etc. 11.Proxy Server FreeBSD 3.1 Squid 12.Installation Server with FTP installable -Stable for local replication on a local network. I used to use the electronic cookbooks for various projects where you would just buy the apropriate parts and assemble some device or sub-assembly. No theory or intimate knowledge of electronics was required, just the ability to follow directions. My thinking here is to provide a quick start mechanism for new users where they would have a working solution and then could begin to extend the solution by adding other software or implementing other recipes. Since UNIX software is driven by text files, I am hoping that the recipes would essentially be collections of configuration files with directions on how to edit them for a given recipe. One of the strengths of this approach is that the recipe would only require the download of a very small tarball that would drop in place on all the files that would need editing in a small package. Hopefully, since these are configuration files they would be longer lived than the specific version that they start with. There have been several suggestions in the mailing lists for the Install program to create these kind of configurations, however since sysinstall is a program and has to work in a floppy booted environment updating these kind of things and keeping bloat down seem to point to a web/ftp based cookbook instead. A centralizied cookbook would keep the proliferation of FreeBSD web sites with this kind of information scattered across the net and difficult to find. I had thought of creating a book that could sell in the stores but I am of the opinion that the book would get stale too quickly and would have to point to a web site to stay current anyway. Eventually a clever person could create scripts to ask some questions and cook the recipe. I am still too new to FreeBSD/Unix to implement a script approach and eventually the COOK would have to tune the configuration so having the files edited by hand may be better as a teaching tool. I would prefer that the recipes could be created from working systems. In some ways this would be like the contributed themes for desktops from individuals systems. Some RECIPES could eventually have several variations such as CableModem Gateway might have @Home, RoadRunner, etc. variants. The Data base server lends itself to a variant for each data base. Where this would differ from the Linux HOW-TOs is in that the specific recipe would talk about coordinating the edits of the configuration files so that everything would work together. I have been following the commentary on questions and people often ask for a prepackaged solution that cannot be easily packaged as FAQ answer. Month after month, people ask the same questions about the interactions among various pieces of software and hardware. There would be minimum and recommended hardware configurations targeted to each of the recipes, perhaps scaled to various size solutions. I am assuming that when software is required, that a install of a port would be directed and that the sequence of installing the component pieces would be given to minimize installation interactions. I have gone through a considerable amount of research each time I have implemented a FreeBSD solution and would like to have had some canned solution each time. This would remove some of the hurdle required to bring a FreeBSD solution into an organisation and I don't see something similar in the Linux or M$ side of things (except via expen$ive consultants). If I am resurecting/recreating a long discarded idea, I would like to know what was the previous reasons for this kind of thing not coming to fruition. I may be assuming that this simplistic description of the project is doable in a real world of complexity and change. -- When I was a kid I had to rub sticks together to multiply and divide numbers. A calculator was a job description. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 10 6:52:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5FF15003 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 06:52:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id GAA31450; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 06:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 1D12615003; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 06:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990410134833.1D12615003@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 06:48:33 -0700 (PDT) From: molter@tin.it To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/11057: error in the man page for listen(2) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11057 >Category: docs >Synopsis: error in the man page for listen(2) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Apr 10 06:50:02 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Marco Molteni >Release: 3.1 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD nympha.ecomotor.it 3.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Apr 1 15:17:49 CEST 1999 root@nympha.ecomotor.it:/usr/src/sys/compile/NYMPHA i386 >Description: while reading the man page for the listen system call on a FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE box, I noticed (what I think is) a typo: it refers to a non existent sysctl variable ``kern.somaxconn'' while it should be ``kern.ipc.somaxconn''. >How-To-Repeat: man listen ;-) >Fix: --- /usr/src/lib/libc/sys/listen.2 Fri Apr 11 20:47:06 1997 +++ listen.2 Thu Apr 8 11:17:47 1999 @@ -74,15 +74,15 @@ The .Xr sysctl 3 MIB variable -.Dq Li kern.somaxconn +.Dq Li kern.ipc.somaxconn specifies a hard limit on .Fa backlog ; if a value greater than -.Li kern.somaxconn +.Li kern.ipc.somaxconn or less than zero is specified, .Fa backlog is silently forced to -.Li kern.somaxconn . +.Li kern.ipc.somaxconn . .Sh IMPLEMENTATION NOTES .Pp In the non-threaded library >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 10 8: 2:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C89E14FD8 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 08:02:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id IAA34455; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 08:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 08:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904101500.IAA34455@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: From: Nathan Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/11057: error in the man page for listen(2) Reply-To: Nathan Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/11057; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Nathan Dorfman To: molter@tin.it Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11057: error in the man page for listen(2) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:58:36 -0400 On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 06:48:33AM -0700, molter@tin.it wrote: > > >Synopsis: error in the man page for listen(2) > > >Description: > while reading the man page for the listen system call on a FreeBSD > 3.1-RELEASE box, I noticed (what I think is) a typo: it refers to a > non existent sysctl variable ``kern.somaxconn'' while it should be > ``kern.ipc.somaxconn''. I've already submitted a pr for this a while ago and it was committed by jkoshy; at least it's correct on -current. If it's not in -stable, someone should merge it. -- Nathan Dorfman The statements and opinions in my Unix Admin @ Frontline Communications public posts are mine, not FCC's. "The light at the end of the tunnel is the headlight of an approaching train." --/usr/games/fortune To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 10 13:20:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7F014E1C; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:20:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA58437; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:18:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:18:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904102018.NAA58437@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ijliao@Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11021: typo in lex man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: typo in lex man page State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Sat Apr 10 13:17:37 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: The suggested change already seems to have been made when flex was upgraded from 2.4 to 2.5 src/usr.bin/lex/lex.1:1.3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 10 13:33:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA8A14C0D; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:33:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA59532; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:31:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:31:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904102031.NAA59532@freefall.freebsd.org> To: seggers@semyam.dinoco.de, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/7791: ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ipf(8) and ipfstat(8) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ipf(8) and ipfstat(8) State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Sat Apr 10 13:30:35 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: ipfstat has already been moved to ipfstat(8). ipf(1) remains (and I've just fixed the bogus ref in the man page to ipfstat(1). Is this OK, or do you think ipf(1) should still move to ipf(8)? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 10 13:40:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E552153A9; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:40:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA60005; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:38:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:38:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904102038.NAA60005@freefall.freebsd.org> To: yohta@bres.tsukuba.ac.jp, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/7819: nroff macro problem(miss reformated) in dig(1) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: nroff macro problem(miss reformated) in dig(1) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Sat Apr 10 13:38:23 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Suggested patch applied, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 10 13:44:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB0E215046; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:44:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA60344; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:42:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:42:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904102042.NAA60344@freefall.freebsd.org> To: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/7833: awk.1 contains typos. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: awk.1 contains typos. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Sat Apr 10 13:42:14 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Suggested fix applied, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 10 13:52: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54FCE153D2; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:52:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA60883; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:49:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:49:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904102049.NAA60883@freefall.freebsd.org> To: tolik@mpeks.tomsk.su, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10269: manpage have wrong information about symlink modes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: manpage have wrong information about symlink modes State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Sat Apr 10 13:49:34 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Offending para removed from manpage. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 10 19: 1:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (stampede.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.45.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8860415060; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:01:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca1-146.ix.netcom.com [209.109.232.146]) by stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA10998; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.2/8.6.9) id SAA30365; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904110157.SAA30365@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: silvia.hip.berkeley.edu: asami set sender to asami@cs.berkeley.edu using -f To: nik@freebsd.org Cc: bde@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199904062125.OAA72139@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> (asami@freebsd.org) Subject: Re: DocProj build From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) References: <370A5AA5.66E8559A@thuntek.net> <370A5BD9.CF27C2BD@plutotech.com> <370A5C64.D3B4C0BD@thuntek.net> <370A6C14.F28210F1@plutotech.com> <370A78D8.FF59410F@thuntek.net> <199904062125.OAA72139@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - the Wraith - Asami) * However, the whole thing still barfs when trying to reformat the * handbook (the entire reason of installing it in the first place, duh). * * === * ## make * /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -c ../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/3.0/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d ../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl -t sgml handbook.sgml * /usr/local/bin/jade:E: cannot open "../../share/sgml/catalog" (No such file or directory) * /usr/local/bin/jade:E: cannot open "handbook.sgml" (No such file or directory) * /usr/local/bin/jade:E: cannot open "../../share/sgml/catalog" (No such file or directory) * /usr/local/bin/jade:E: cannot open "../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl" (No such file or directory) * /usr/local/bin/jade:E: specification document does not have the DSSSL architecture as a base architecture * *** Error code 1 * * Stop. * === * * I'm stumped here. I guess we should all wait for teTeX-nonbeta to * come out. Turns out this is an OBJDIR problem (hence the CC: to Bruce). It works without "make obj" but not with. This is a 3.1-stable system about 1 1/2 months old with the latest /usr/share/mk and docproj tools. By the way, "make clean" in doc/en/handbook leaves "handbook.html-split.tar" and "handbook.html-split.tar.gz" behind. -PW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 10 19: 7:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5450F15060; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:07:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA03829; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:05:16 +1000 Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:05:16 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199904110205.MAA03829@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: asami@freebsd.org, nik@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DocProj build Cc: bde@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Turns out this is an OBJDIR problem (hence the CC: to Bruce). It >works without "make obj" but not with. This is a 3.1-stable system >about 1 1/2 months old with the latest /usr/share/mk and docproj >tools. OBJDIR problems are normally caused by sloppy programming of relative paths to foreign obj directories. I haven't looked at the doc makefiles or sources since the sources left /usr/obj. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 11 0: 7:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37B414F4A; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 00:07:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA258684264; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 03:04:24 -0400 Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 03:04:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: nik@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: seggers@semyam.dinoco.de, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/7791: ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ipf(8) and ipfstat(8) In-Reply-To: <199904102031.NAA59532@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 nik@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > Synopsis: ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ipf(8) and ipfstat(8) > > State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed > State-Changed-By: nik > State-Changed-When: Sat Apr 10 13:30:35 PDT 1999 > State-Changed-Why: > ipfstat has already been moved to ipfstat(8). ipf(1) remains (and I've > just fixed the bogus ref in the man page to ipfstat(1). Is this OK, or > do you think ipf(1) should still move to ipf(8)? Just to incite inappropriate discusion: IPFILTER has suffered serious bitrot. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 11 15:47: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from eterna.binary.net (eterna.binary.net [12.13.84.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444E11628F for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:39:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nathan@rtfm.net) Received: from matrix.binary.net (nathan@matrix.binary.net [12.13.120.2]) by eterna.binary.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA72219; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:14:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from nathan@localhost) by matrix.binary.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id OAA12775; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:14:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:14:01 -0400 From: Nathan Dorfman To: Marco Molteni Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: [NEED MFC] Re: docs/11057: error in the man page for listen(2) Message-ID: <19990411151401.A12627@rtfm.net> References: <19990410105835.A18182@rtfm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from Marco Molteni on Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 12:22:12PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've Cc:'ed this back to the list because it is still an open problem for -stable systems. Someone needs to merge revision 1.11 into RELENG_3. kern.somaxconn should be kern.ipc.somaxconn and it's been fixed in -current for quite a while. Thanks, Marco -- Nathan Dorfman The statements and opinions in my Unix Admin @ Frontline Communications public posts are mine, not FCC's. "The light at the end of the tunnel is the headlight of an approaching train." --/usr/games/fortune To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 11 16: 8:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from reliam.teaser.fr (reliam.teaser.fr [194.51.80.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60F616346; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:42:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsouch@teaser.fr) Received: from teaser.fr (ppp1087-ft.teaser.fr [194.206.156.40]) by reliam.teaser.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA24211; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:25:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from nsouch@localhost) by teaser.fr (8.9.2/8.9.1) id PAA02802; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:24:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nsouch) Message-ID: <19990411152407.62967@breizh.teaser.fr> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:24:07 +0200 From: Nicolas Souchu To: sheldonh@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10737 References: <199903281757.JAA56447@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: <199903281757.JAA56447@freefall.freebsd.org>; from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org on Sun, Mar 28, 1999 at 09:57:02AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD breizh 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Mar 28, 1999 at 09:57:02AM -0800, sheldonh@FreeBSD.org wrote: > >Synopsis: a broken figure in lpbb.4 (PS) > >Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nsouch >Responsible-Changed-By: sheldonh >Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Mar 28 09:56:02 PST 1999 >Responsible-Changed-Why: >His manpage. :-) > Fixed and commited. What shall I do to close the pr? -- nsouch@teaser.fr / nsouch@freebsd.org FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 11 16:11:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B8E16641; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:44:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id TAA16310; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:46:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id TAA08194; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:29:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-ID: <19990411192917.33393@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:29:17 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: nik@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10086: FAQ font too large References: <199904092117.OAA31352@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199904092117.OAA31352@freefall.freebsd.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.org on Fri, Apr 09, 1999 at 02:17:39PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-04-09 14:17:39 -0700, nik@FreeBSD.org wrote: > Synopsis: FAQ font too large > > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > State-Changed-By: nik > State-Changed-When: Fri Apr 9 14:17:01 PDT 1999 > State-Changed-Why: > The font is supposed to be this large, those are headings. Also, Huh? Please compare the pages FAQ24.html and FAQ.html In FAQ.html the heading '2. Installation' has a large font and 2.1, 2.2 etc. medium size fonts. In FAQ24.html the font size for '2. Installation' is the same as for 2.1, 2.2 etc - all are large ;-/ > the DocBook conversion willchange this (probably, from your POV > for the better). You can close the PR if the DocBook conversion is done ;-) But not if the bug is still alive. -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 11 16:12: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1946F16689; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:44:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id TAA16349; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:47:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id TAA09100; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:41:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-ID: <19990411194126.48734@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:41:26 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: nik@FreeBSD.ORG, wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/6508: sgmlfmt does not expand relative URLs References: <199904092125.OAA32384@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199904092125.OAA32384@freefall.freebsd.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.org on Fri, Apr 09, 1999 at 02:25:14PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-04-09 14:25:14 -0700, nik@FreeBSD.org wrote: > Synopsis: sgmlfmt does not expand relative URLs > > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > State-Changed-By: nik > State-Changed-When: Fri Apr 9 14:24:15 PDT 1999 > State-Changed-Why: > You can't use relative URLs in the Handbook / FAQ, because you don't > know where it's going to be installed relative to the rest of the > website (or even *if* it's going to be installed with the rest of > the website). ??? The location of the handbook (/handbook/) and the FAQ (/FAQ/) is well known on the web site. The same is true for ports projects, releases etc. Our web mirrors *require* relative paths. Even a 155Mbit/s Internet link is easy to overload. -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 11 16:33:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D19F15E44 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:12:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id QAA24628; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:10:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5BE16522 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:44:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id UAA16643 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:15:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id TAA09303; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:58:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-Id: <199904111758.TAA09303@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:58:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Wolfram Schneider Reply-To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11087: Portland FreeBSD users group Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11087 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Portland FreeBSD users group >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Apr 11 16:10:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Wolfram Schneider >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 00:32:09 -0800 (PST) From: rick hamell To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Portland FreeBSD users group Message-ID: Our first official meeting is scheduled for the 22nd of this month. As of this point location has not been announced yet, we would like to get a general number of people first. :) If you're interested please let me know! Rick >Description: >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 11 16:33:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD6F15E2D for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:12:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id QAA24637; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:10:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92031653E for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:44:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id UAA16633 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:13:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id UAA09642; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:05:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-Id: <199904111805.UAA09642@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:05:47 +0200 (CEST) From: Wolfram Schneider Reply-To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11088: PHX Users Group Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11088 >Category: docs >Synopsis: PHX Users Group >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Apr 11 16:10:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Wolfram Schneider >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: From: Ryan Mooney Message-Id: <199903232241.PAA03866@pcslink.com> Subject: PHX Users Group To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 15:41:53 -0700 (MST) The Phoenix BSD Users group is fully open for businness. I now have the mailing list setup and ready to go. If anyone else here is from the phoenix area please feel free to join in http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ >Description: >-=-=-=-=-=-=-<>-=-=-=-=-=-<>-=-=-=-=-=-<>-=-=-=-=-=-<>-=-=-=-=-=-=-< Ryan Mooney Phone (602)265-9188 PCSLink ryan@pcslink.com Internet Services NT is an excellent choice for managers who need to show that they used up their fiscal year budget for hardware/software expenditures. <-=-=-=-=-=-=-><-=-=-=-=-=-><-=-=-=-=-=-><-=-=-=-=-=-><-=-=-=-=-=-=-> >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 11 16:33:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B83E15E94 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:12:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id QAA24646; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C822616575 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:44:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id UAA16580 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:11:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id UAA09417; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:00:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-Id: <199904111800.UAA09417@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:00:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Wolfram Schneider Reply-To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11089: freebsd user group, sydney Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11089 >Category: docs >Synopsis: freebsd user group, sydney >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Apr 11 16:10:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Wolfram Schneider >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: Message-ID: <19990409195702.F14399@caamora.com.au> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:57:02 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: freebsd user group, sydney all, # OOPS # to teh people on chat and newbies, sorry, i'm posting this # again, sun 9th may is mothers day. just to let you all know that we have gotten a freebsd user group started in sydney nsw australia. our next meeting is scheduled for sunday, 9th may at 1 pm i have just been informed that this is motherday, looks like we will need to shift teh date back a week, stay tuned our venue will be announced when we know more accurately how many are likely to be there, so please email or post to teh postal adress in teh signiture, below. thank you and please accept my apologies for the cross post, my hands are getting sore. regards jonathan -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== >Description: >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 11 16:33:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6835015F5E for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:12:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id QAA24655; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72115165CD for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:44:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id UAA16603 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:12:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id UAA09527; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:03:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-Id: <199904111803.UAA09527@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:03:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Wolfram Schneider Reply-To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11090: User's group in Melbourne Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11090 >Category: docs >Synopsis: User's group in Melbourne Australia >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Apr 11 16:10:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Wolfram Schneider >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:54:07 +1000 (EST) From: Gavin Cameron To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: User's group in Melbourne Australia Message-ID: Hi all, Calling all FreeBSD users in Melbourne who would like to get together with other local FreeBSD users. The users groups is very much in its infancy but we already have an E-mail list that you can join, and a WWW page is on its way (thanks Joel!). The mailing list is under control of the Majordomo mailing list manager and you can join the list by sending a message to majordomo@itworks.com.au with the text "subscribe melb-fbsd" in the text of the message. Look forward to hearing from all of you. Cheers, Gavin Cameron []-----------------------------------+------------------------------------[] | Gavin Cameron | ITworks Consulting | | Ph : +61 3 9667 0297 | Suite 100, 85 Grattan Street | | Fax : +61 3 9347 6544 | Carlton, Victoria | | Email : gavin@itworks.com.au | Australia, 3053 | []-----------------------------------+------------------------------------[] >Description: >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 11 17: 2:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3FB114D02 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:02:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10WU92-0001MJ-00; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:00:08 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Nicolas Souchu Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10737 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:24:07 +0200." <19990411152407.62967@breizh.teaser.fr> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:00:07 +0200 Message-ID: <5226.923875207@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:24:07 +0200, Nicolas Souchu wrote: > Fixed and commited. Thanks. > What shall I do to close the pr? Get onto freefall and do ``edit-pr 10737''. Edit the ``State:'' field, changing it to closed. Save and close. I've done it for you this time. :-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 11 20:24:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42B4151F3 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:24:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA08116; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:51:51 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id MAA69352; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:51:46 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19990412125145.J2142@lemis.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:51:45 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: FreeBSD Documenters Cc: "Robert A. Bruce" Subject: Publishing the FreeBSD handbook Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Walnut Creek are planning to make a printed version of the FreeBSD handbook. This is something about which Walnut Creek and myself drew up a contract some years ago, when I first got involved with writing documentation for FreeBSD, so I'll be heading this particular effort. I've been looking at the handbook for a while, and have tidied up some rough edges, as you may have noticed. But basically it's clear that the handbook isn't really ready for printing in its current form, and Bob Bruce has agreed to postpone the matter until it can be tidied up a bit. We're hoping to be able to get it in printable shape by about August or September, and then he's talking about having a new edition printed about twice a year, so the handbook would be subjected to a release cycle similar in nature to the software release. I've done some thinking about what needs to be done. I've deliberately held off while the previous discussion about the future of the handbook, but it now looks as if we haven't come to any conclusions which would affect my issues. As I see it, in order to print the handbook, we need to: 1. Remove the "to be written" sections. Maybe there's a style sheet option which can help here (Nik?). Otherwise it might make more sense to just comment out these sections and create a document "to be done" which describes where they are. 2. Update some old and mouldy sections. Some parts are so old as to be misleading, and if we don't update them we should eliminate them. If *you* have contributed in the past, now would be a good time to check over your contribution and consider whether you should update it. Of course, if you want to overhaul a contribution you didn't write, that's a great idea too, though I suppose it would be a good idea to check with the author first. 3. Add an index, and generally improve the format. I'm planning to do this myself, but if anybody else wants to join in (or even take over), I'll be more than happy. 4. Remove some sections for the printed version only. For example, Bob suggested that most people who want to send core teams encrypted messages won't copy the key out of the book, they'll get it online, so we don't need to publish them. I also wonder whether we really need to publish 37 pages of contributor names and (possibly incorrect) mail addresses. 5. Where possible, check the published mail addresses and get them up to date. There are a couple of things which I think we don't need to do, but I'm willing to listen to opinions: 1. Don't change the style. Sure, it's a hodgepodge, but that can be explained, and I don't think that it will concern the target audience too much. I do wonder about emoticons and such, but a real style overhaul would be a very difficult job, and I'd anticipate a number of clashes of viewpoint in the process. 2. Don't change the overall format. I don't like it yet, but it's an area that Nik has been working on, and I don't want to get in his way. This is just a first cut at this. I'd welcome a discussion about what we should and should not do, but much more I'd welcome some action. Basically, you have about 4 months to get your changes into the first edition; now's a good time to start. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 11 20:40:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE5D15259 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:40:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA44586; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:38:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Greg Lehey Cc: FreeBSD Documenters , "Robert A. Bruce" Subject: Re: Publishing the FreeBSD handbook In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:51:45 +0930." <19990412125145.J2142@lemis.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:38:37 -0700 Message-ID: <44584.923888317@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Walnut Creek are planning to make a printed version of the FreeBSD > handbook. This is something about which Walnut Creek and myself drew > up a contract some years ago, when I first got involved with writing > documentation for FreeBSD, so I'll be heading this particular effort. Actually, Nik Clayton is already heading this particular effort so please work with him rather than going off on your own tangent or something. By all means, whip the volunteers into a frenzy of contributions if you think you can do so, but also realize that the ultimate responsibility for the handbook and its organzation lies with Nik and you can't just step into -doc and start a parallel effort without stomping all over his toes and most of his feet. Don't get me wrong, I'm also happy to see you working more out in the open rather than doing another totally independent effort in troff or something, but we just got Nik signed up and "in harness" as the new Docmeister and anything involve the Handbook simply has to go through him or we're in for a world of confusion. I've already communicated as much to Walnut Creek / Bob Bruce and would be happy to see you working with Nik to improve the handbook just so long as "with" is the operative preposition. If I've also read too much into this message and that's already exactly what you have in mind (Nik driving the task list and Nik totally behind this most recent "push") then please just ignore this message as excessive paranoia on my part. Thanks! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 11 20:41:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C0A15259; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:41:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id NAA05872; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:38:42 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19990412133835.55410@welearn.com.au> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:38:35 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: meshko@cs.brandeis.edu Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/11093: remind user that he needs to be root to install port References: <19990412032503.1B6DC153BE@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <19990412032503.1B6DC153BE@hub.freebsd.org>; from meshko@cs.brandeis.edu on Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 08:25:03PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 08:25:03PM -0700, meshko@cs.brandeis.edu wrote: > Well, may be the problem is with me (most likely) but still i think > somebody must have had the same problem... > I've been using ports collection for two years now (so I am not > total newbie) and I think it's great, but I always repeat the same > mistake -- I cd /usr/ports/whatever and try to make forgetting to su. > The problem is that make starts fine and connects to ftp site and starts > download when it finally notices that it can't create the local file! > First of all with slow connection it takes some time before I find out > that I screwed up. But what is even worth it actually took me some time > to figure out what does this permission denied message mean. I thought > that file is closed on the ftp server! (yes, yes, very dumb, thank you) > Well, anyway I guess it would be nice to have makefile check if user > have access to ports directory and report error clearly... > thanks for your time I can identify with your problem, but I think this is a documentation problem not a ports problem. What documentation did you read to learn how to install a port? Maybe we can fix it so that it's clearer in future. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 11 20:46:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB211528D for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:46:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA08197; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:14:30 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id NAA69389; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:14:29 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19990412131428.K2142@lemis.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:14:28 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: FreeBSD Documenters , "Robert A. Bruce" Subject: Re: Publishing the FreeBSD handbook References: <19990412125145.J2142@lemis.com> <44584.923888317@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <44584.923888317@zippy.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 08:38:37PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday, 11 April 1999 at 20:38:37 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> Walnut Creek are planning to make a printed version of the FreeBSD >> handbook. This is something about which Walnut Creek and myself drew >> up a contract some years ago, when I first got involved with writing >> documentation for FreeBSD, so I'll be heading this particular effort. > > Actually, Nik Clayton is already heading this particular effort so > please work with him rather than going off on your own tangent or > something. By all means, whip the volunteers into a frenzy of > contributions if you think you can do so, but also realize that the > ultimate responsibility for the handbook and its organzation lies with > Nik and you can't just step into -doc and start a parallel effort > without stomping all over his toes and most of his feet. > > Don't get me wrong, I'm also happy to see you working more out in the > open rather than doing another totally independent effort in troff or > something, but we just got Nik signed up and "in harness" as the new > Docmeister and anything involve the Handbook simply has to go through > him or we're in for a world of confusion. I've already communicated > as much to Walnut Creek / Bob Bruce and would be happy to see you > working with Nik to improve the handbook just so long as "with" is the > operative preposition. > > If I've also read too much into this message and that's already > exactly what you have in mind (Nik driving the task list and Nik > totally behind this most recent "push") then please just ignore this > message as excessive paranoia on my part. It looks like excessive paranoia. I've already contacted him and explained the background, and we're in sync. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 11 21: 1:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BEE1521B for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:01:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA44689; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:59:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Greg Lehey Cc: FreeBSD Documenters , "Robert A. Bruce" Subject: Re: Publishing the FreeBSD handbook In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:14:28 +0930." <19990412131428.K2142@lemis.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:59:29 -0700 Message-ID: <44687.923889569@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > It looks like excessive paranoia. I've already contacted him and > explained the background, and we're in sync. Excellent. I'm always happy when it turns out that I'm being *too* paranoid. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 11 21:44:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from kaa.kfunigraz.ac.at (KAA-ATM.kfunigraz.ac.at [143.50.202.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C193614E21 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:43:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dada@balu.kfunigraz.ac.at) Received: from balu.kfunigraz.ac.at (balu [143.50.16.16]) by kaa.kfunigraz.ac.at (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA26771 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 06:41:39 +0200 (MDT) Received: from localhost.kfunigraz.ac.at (IDENT:atOP6uZeYPblmUnZji+jMUsCpGcc8BM6@BONLINEA17.kfunigraz.ac.at [143.50.36.17]) by balu.kfunigraz.ac.at (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA19747 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 06:41:37 +0200 (MDT) Received: from localhost (9aZaAOvvliKNcfEJp91flEHtOQGvcXbu@localhost.kfunigraz.ac.at [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.kfunigraz.ac.at (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA22438 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:01:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dada@localhost.kfunigraz.ac.at) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:01:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Martin Kammerhofer Reply-To: Martin Kammerhofer To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: forgotten ``.tgz'' in handbook Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following handbook section has a tiny bug: 4.7.1.4. Testing the port You should make sure that the port rules do exactly what you want it to do, including packaging up the port. These are the important points you need to verify: PLIST does not contain anything not installed by your port PLIST contains everything that is installed by your port your port can be installed multiple times using the reinstall target your port cleans up after itself upon deinstall The recommended ordering of tests is: 1.make install 2.make package 3.make deinstall 4.pkg_add `make package-name` ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ suffix missing CORRECT: 4.pkg_add `make package-name`.tgz HTH, Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 11 22:27:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cerberus.student.umd.edu (cerberus.student.umd.edu [129.2.178.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D8915408 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:27:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bfoz@glue.umd.edu) Received: from glue.umd.edu (poseidon.student.umd.edu [129.2.179.31]) by cerberus.student.umd.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA42627; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:24:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bfoz@glue.umd.edu) Message-ID: <371183A6.A7EB2B52@glue.umd.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:24:54 -0400 From: Brandon Fosdick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sue Blake Cc: meshko@cs.brandeis.edu, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/11093: remind user that he needs to be root to install port References: <19990412032503.1B6DC153BE@hub.freebsd.org> <19990412133835.55410@welearn.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sue Blake wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 08:25:03PM -0700, meshko@cs.brandeis.edu wrote: > > > Well, may be the problem is with me (most likely) but still i think > > somebody must have had the same problem... > > I've been using ports collection for two years now (so I am not > > total newbie) and I think it's great, but I always repeat the same > > mistake -- I cd /usr/ports/whatever and try to make forgetting to su. > > The problem is that make starts fine and connects to ftp site and starts > > download when it finally notices that it can't create the local file! > > First of all with slow connection it takes some time before I find out > > that I screwed up. But what is even worth it actually took me some time > > to figure out what does this permission denied message mean. I thought > > that file is closed on the ftp server! (yes, yes, very dumb, thank you) > > Well, anyway I guess it would be nice to have makefile check if user > > have access to ports directory and report error clearly... > > thanks for your time > > I can identify with your problem, but I think this is a documentation > problem not a ports problem. > > What documentation did you read to learn how to install a port? > Maybe we can fix it so that it's clearer in future. > I do this all the time too. The documentation needs a little help in this area since it's not explicitly stated that you need to be root. (BTW, I like the handbook's new look) But I also think that a simple check very early on in the make process would help things immensely. At the very least it would help us forgetful types. Just make sure that the error message is very clear, something like, "You forgot to su dummy!". :) -Brandon -- bfoz@starfleet.umd.edu "In life there are those who steer, and those who push" "I'm not impatient, the world is too slow" "Life is short, so have fun, play hard, and leave a good looking corpse" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 12 8:17:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail15.svr.pol.co.uk (mail15.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777501550E for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:17:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@eborcom.com) Received: from modem-85.amoxicillin.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.51.85]) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10WiQb-0002D0-00 for doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:15:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 6263 invoked by uid 5000); 12 Apr 1999 14:33:22 -0000 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:33:22 +0100 From: Tom Hukins To: Bruce Grisham Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [bruce@accumatics.com: typo in http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook.html] Message-ID: <19990412153322.A6231@eborcom.com> Mail-Followup-To: Bruce Grisham , doc@freebsd.org References: <19990408104909.46700@panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990408104909.46700@panke.de.freebsd.org>; from Wolfram Schneider on Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 10:49:09AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bruce Grisham wrote: > > there's a small misspelling on this page: look for independant; it's > spelled independent > > Don't mean to niggle. I apologise for niggling a niggle: Isn't independent the correct spelling? I know that we write "independent" in British English, and I thought it was written the same in American English. Regards, Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 12 8:32:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7FA155A1 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id IAA05281; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail15.svr.pol.co.uk (mail15.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF6615263 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:17:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@eborcom.com) Received: from modem-85.amoxicillin.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.51.85]) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10WiQc-0002D0-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:15:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 6180 invoked by uid 5000); 12 Apr 1999 14:19:23 -0000 Message-Id: <19990412141923.6179.qmail@eborcom.com> Date: 12 Apr 1999 14:19:23 -0000 From: Tom Hukins To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11098: FAQ Update: Database systems for FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11098 >Category: docs >Synopsis: FAQ Update: Database systems for FreeBSD >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Apr 12 08:30:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Tom Hukins >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386 >Organization: eBORcOM >Environment: >Description: The FAQ gives the impression that Conetic and Sleepycat are the only options for running a commercial database system under FreeBSD. The patch below updates the FAQ to point towards the "Vendors" section of the Web site. It also mentions the "Databases" category in the Ports collection. Some information about running Linux databases under emulation might also be useful, but I don't know anything about this so I haven't mentioned it. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- commercial.sgml.orig Thu Mar 25 22:35:21 1999 +++ commercial.sgml Mon Apr 12 15:12:27 1999 @@ -155,21 +155,12 @@ Are there any Database systems for FreeBSD? -

    Yes! Conetic Software Systems has ported their C/base and C/books - database systems to FreeBSD 2.0.5 and higher, and Sleepycat - Software is selling a commercially supported version of the DB - database library. +

    Yes! See the section of FreeBSD's Web site. - - - - , - - . - +

    Also see the section of the Ports collection. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 12 9: 1:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (mail.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F4815521 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:01:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kelly@plutotech.com) Received: from plutotech.com (kelly@tampopo.plutotech.com [206.168.67.161]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA35352; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:59:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from kelly@plutotech.com) Message-ID: <37121847.AB1A23DA@plutotech.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:59:03 -0600 From: Sean Kelly Organization: Pluto Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Hukins Cc: Bruce Grisham , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [bruce@accumatics.com: typo in http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook.html] References: <19990408104909.46700@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990412153322.A6231@eborcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > there's a small misspelling on this page: look for independant; it's > > spelled independent > > Isn't independent the correct spelling? I know that we write > "independent" in British English, and I thought it was written the > same in American English. I think what Bruce meant was: "search for independant in the document, when you find it, replace it with the correct version, which is spelled independent." Take care. --Sean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 12 11: 2:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3B6155E6 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:02:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id LAA40166 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:00:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904121800.LAA40166@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1999/02/14] docs/10088 doc Documentation search results 1 problem total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1998/07/29] docs/7437 doc IPFW doco unclear about in/out o [1999/01/22] docs/9618 doc many typos in groff_mm(7) a [1999/02/17] docs/10135 doc Change to Documention Regarding Upgrades o [1999/04/09] docs/11046 doc RELENG_3_1_0_RELEASE is not mentioned in 4 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [1998/01/15] docs/5487 doc Adding documentation for scsi(8) usage wi o [1998/04/14] docs/6295 doc Reference to nonexistent file in Device D o [1998/04/15] docs/6307 doc sgmlfmt not `make -jN' ready o [1998/05/18] docs/6681 doc docu. addition a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated a [1998/08/31] docs/7791 doc ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ip o [1998/09/13] docs/7914 doc no elf(5) manpage o [1998/10/25] docs/8445 doc Update of "Installing Mathematica on Free o [1998/10/27] docs/8464 doc Missing include file wh o [1998/11/02] docs/8547 doc Various updates to authors.sgml, printing o [1998/11/08] docs/8602 doc symlink(7) manpage says that file(1) has o [1998/11/08] docs/8611 doc kld man page o [1998/11/10] docs/8640 doc proposed change of 4.5 o [1998/11/14] docs/8682 doc some small bug fixes to ld.1 o [1998/11/19] docs/8765 doc some suggested text for describing passwo o [1998/11/24] docs/8858 doc man page for accept() is flawed o [1998/12/25] docs/9193 doc Incorrect release date for FreeBSD 2.0 in o [1998/12/28] docs/9228 doc AMD's texinfo doc doesn't get installed o [1999/01/01] docs/9264 doc Incorrectness in tsort(1) manpage. o [1999/01/02] docs/9276 doc Some typos and fragmented coincidence of o [1999/01/03] docs/9288 doc typo in doc/FAQ/preface.sgml o [1999/01/06] docs/9352 doc wrong macro names in groff_[ms|mm|mmse].7 o [1999/01/12] docs/9455 doc cvsup and ftp server in Czech Republic o [1999/01/24] docs/9658 doc tar(1) SYNOPSIS refinement o [1999/01/26] docs/9707 doc New entry for FAQ o [1999/01/29] docs/9773 doc Handbook 4.7.1.4. "Testing the port" is i o [1999/01/31] docs/9837 doc fix to doc/handbook/porting.sgml o [1999/02/01] docs/9854 doc undocumented ctype functions break stuff o [1999/02/06] docs/9940 doc mt.1 typo (right paren missing, and etc.) o [1999/02/08] docs/9960 doc man page for route doesn't mention defaul o [1999/02/10] docs/10017 doc Added a site and bug fix o [1999/02/11] docs/10038 doc Added a site and bug fix (part two) o [1999/02/14] docs/10080 doc Adding link to Daemon BSD case badges o [1999/02/14] docs/10082 doc Adding Pine Internet to Consultants page o [1999/02/14] docs/10083 doc Adding OpenWorld to Consulting services o [1999/02/14] docs/10084 doc new FreeBSD user group in Yogyakarta City o [1999/02/14] docs/10085 doc NIS Setup Tutorial o [1999/02/14] docs/10098 doc Lack of overall guide for NIS setup o [1999/02/15] docs/10108 doc Addition to fstab.5 o [1999/02/18] docs/10146 doc Release Notes and LINT for 3.1 include ha o [1999/02/21] docs/10180 doc Another mirror site not listed... o [1999/02/21] docs/10182 doc http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?p o [1999/02/25] docs/10239 doc FreeBSD Mall o [1999/02/25] docs/10240 doc We need a script which check if our web m o [1999/02/25] docs/10242 doc Windsor Unix Users Group o [1999/02/25] docs/10256 doc handbook on cvsup... o [1999/03/01] docs/10331 doc pccardd(8) claims FreeBSD does not suppor o [1999/03/03] docs/10378 doc option -s missing in lptcontrol.8 o [1999/03/04] docs/10388 doc Obsolete information in Handbook o [1999/03/05] docs/10403 doc CDE is no longer sold by Xi Graphics. o [1999/03/05] docs/10408 doc [quasi-patch] Grammar nitpicks in Handboo o [1999/03/06] docs/10451 doc EDESTADDRREQ returnable by writev() but n o [1999/03/07] docs/10472 doc Mailing list for discussion of Xircom dri o [1999/03/07] docs/10474 doc A command line in a man document is incom o [1999/03/08] docs/10488 doc Error in entry for 02/27 in calendar.hist o [1999/03/08] docs/10494 doc arp(4) SYNOPSIS non typical expression o [1999/03/08] docs/10495 doc lo(4) SYNOPSIS non typical expression o [1999/03/08] docs/10500 doc spell error o [1999/03/09] docs/10512 doc ENOBUFS returnable from writev(2) but not o [1999/03/09] docs/10517 doc Missing manpage for /usr/bin/gensetdefs ( o [1999/03/15] docs/10605 doc nfsiod(8) references LKM mechanisms on 3. o [1999/03/16] docs/10624 doc typos/innacuracies in wfd(4) man page o [1999/03/18] docs/10659 doc Many syscall man pages have an IMPLEMENTA o [1999/03/18] docs/10660 doc User Group not listed o [1999/03/18] docs/10664 doc Notes on 2.2.8 -> 3.1 migration o [1999/03/19] docs/10684 doc Update doc: www/en/docproj/translations.s o [1999/03/21] docs/10704 doc strange sentence in doc/handbook/ctm.sgml a [1999/03/21] docs/10708 doc meteor.4 man page documentation problem. o [1999/03/23] docs/10762 doc geocrawler.com mailing list archives o [1999/03/24] docs/10771 doc [PATCH] ftpd manpage missing -A in synops o [1999/03/25] docs/10794 doc [Patch] typo in da(4) man page o [1999/03/26] docs/10799 doc [Patch] where.sgml o [1999/03/26] docs/10808 doc Fix bad internal links on www.freebsd.org o [1999/03/27] docs/10819 doc Documentation add o [1999/03/28] docs/10840 doc [PATCH] Add pcic double-loading bug fix t o [1999/03/28] docs/10841 doc typos in man page screen.4 (c -> n) o [1999/03/28] docs/10847 doc lpbb.4's PostScript output format is brok o [1999/03/29] docs/10850 doc submitting a documentation change for sed o [1999/03/30] docs/10877 doc manpage for objformat incorrectly mention o [1999/04/05] docs/10973 doc Patch: Have fsdb(8) man page refer correc o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/04/07] docs/11001 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/hackers.sgml o [1999/04/07] docs/11002 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/hardware.sgml o [1999/04/07] docs/11011 doc missing man page for arc4 related functio o [1999/04/07] docs/11015 doc handbook/mirrors-ftp.html missing NZ serv o [1999/04/08] docs/11022 doc Typo in limits(1) manual page o [1999/04/08] docs/11025 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/misc.sgml o [1999/04/08] docs/11026 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/network.sgml o [1999/04/08] docs/11027 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/preface.sgml o [1999/04/08] docs/11028 doc new text for FAQ to explain branches o [1999/04/09] docs/11042 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/commercial.sgml o [1999/04/09] docs/11043 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/x.sgml o [1999/04/10] docs/11057 doc error in the man page for listen(2) o [1999/04/11] docs/11087 doc Portland FreeBSD users group o [1999/04/11] docs/11088 doc PHX Users Group o [1999/04/11] docs/11089 doc freebsd user group, sydney o [1999/04/11] docs/11090 doc User's group in Melbourne Australia o [1999/04/12] docs/11098 doc FAQ Update: Database systems for FreeBSD 98 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 12 14:38: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F6315593 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:37:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA08611 for doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:32:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net (punt-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.34]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id SAA03146 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:53:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) From: nclayton@lehman.com Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk id 923907945:10:06547:3; Mon, 12 Apr 99 09:05:45 GMT Received: from hub.freebsd.org ([204.216.27.18]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1006336; 12 Apr 99 9:05 GMT Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 991C7154B6; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: nik@freebsd.org Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDCA1527D for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:07:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id FAA03331; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:05:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id FAA18885; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lonmailhost.lehman.com (SMI-8.6/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id KAA06814; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:04:53 +0100 Message-ID: <19990412100453.G14492@lehman.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:04:53 +0100 To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai , Nik Clayton Subject: Re: SGML/DocBook and the Handbook References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai on Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 04:58:10PM +0200 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How do, On Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 04:58:10PM +0200, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > got a few questions for you =) Not a problem. I've cc'd my reply to -doc so it goes in the archives. If you've got any other questions, feel free to send 'em to -doc as well. > In the handbook.sgml, why don't you use to avoid those > random generated pNNN.html documents? Lack of completeness on my part. I've basically copied over all the IDs that existed in the LunuxDoc version, but haven't looked at additional IDs for others parts yet. > I got jade working and teTeX as well, except jadetex is still a bugger to > install, will have to look into it. It's the teTeX-beta dependency I think. Any suggestions for how to make it easier to install teTeX (especially if you already have a TeX installtion) would be appreciated. > Whilst trying to use your Makefile to use jade to create html from the sgml > document(s) I always get one error 1 after it has created the html > documents. I think it's related to tidy, but are not sure. I am trying to > get it worked out though. Any idea from your side though? It's to do with tidy. I can't get on to the w3.org site to check this at the moment, but as I recall it was because tidy would return an error code that indicated the number of errors it had found or fixed. Since this is always at least one (because it will do some reformatting) you have to ignore the error code. > Also, what tag is responsible for the xNNNN.html files? I think. N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 12 14:40:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1FBE15542; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:40:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA89513; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:38:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:38:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904122138.OAA89513@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, dwhite@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/9276: Some typos and fragmented coincidence of FAQ-format. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Some typos and fragmented coincidence of FAQ-format. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dwhite Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Apr 12 14:37:38 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to you Doug. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 12 14:45:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7584015542 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:45:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id VAA24819; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:22:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:22:14 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Greg Lehey Cc: FreeBSD Documenters , "Robert A. Bruce" Subject: Re: Publishing the FreeBSD handbook Message-ID: <19990412212213.B9344@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990412125145.J2142@lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990412125145.J2142@lemis.com>; from Greg Lehey on Mon, Apr 12, 1999 at 12:51:45PM +0930 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How do, On Mon, Apr 12, 1999 at 12:51:45PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > I've been looking at the handbook for a while, and have tidied up some > rough edges, as you may have noticed. But basically it's clear that > the handbook isn't really ready for printing in its current form, and > Bob Bruce has agreed to postpone the matter until it can be tidied up > a bit. We're hoping to be able to get it in printable shape by about > August or September, and then he's talking about having a new edition > printed about twice a year, so the handbook would be subjected to a > release cycle similar in nature to the software release. I've been thinking about this a bit, and I've got a few questions. 1. Does the Handbook need a 6 month release cycle? The majority of the content doesn't change that much in 6 months. Wouldn't a threshold of "changes made since last printing" make more sense, perhaps with a minimum 6 month wait between prints. 2. What's the Walnut Creek reaction been to my ideas about splitting the Handbook up into smaller books? After "FreeBSD in 21 days" gets done that's my next big project. If the Handbook suddenly becomes 12 or 15 smaller handbooks in 8 or 9 months time that's obviously going to affect whatever they're thinking of. 3. Are there plans for any additional content to be "Print version only"? > I've done some thinking about what needs to be done. I've > deliberately held off while the previous discussion about the future > of the handbook, but it now looks as if we haven't come to any > conclusions which would affect my issues. See point 2 above. > As I see it, in order to print the handbook, we need to: > > 1. Remove the "to be written" sections. Maybe there's a style > sheet option which can help here (Nik?). Otherwise it might > make more sense to just comment out these sections and create a > document "to be done" which describes where they are. SGML marked sections. Essentially, you create an entity (call it 'foo' for the sake of argument) and put in the DTD. Then, around content you want to ignore for this printed version you wrap it in If you want to include that information, you normally include "-ifoo" on the command line of your SGML tools, otherwise they'll ignore it (the default). That's a simplistic approach (in reality you'll probably have a number of entities relating to this printing of the Handbook, turned on or off with one other entity) but that's the basic idea. > 2. Update some old and mouldy sections. Some parts are so old as > to be misleading, and if we don't update them we should > eliminate them. If *you* have contributed in the past, now > would be a good time to check over your contribution and > consider whether you should update it. > > Of course, if you want to overhaul a contribution you didn't > write, that's a great idea too, though I suppose it would be a > good idea to check with the author first. This could well be a case of throwing $$$ at the problem. > 3. Add an index, and generally improve the format. I'm planning to > do this myself, but if anybody else wants to join in (or even > take over), I'll be more than happy. Take a look around http://www.docbook.org/, in particular the bits that talk about how you can automatically generate an index. > 4. Remove some sections for the printed version only. For example, > Bob suggested that most people who want to send core teams > encrypted messages won't copy the key out of the book, they'll > get it online, so we don't need to publish them. I also wonder > whether we really need to publish 37 pages of contributor names > and (possibly incorrect) mail addresses. Without getting in to the ins-and-outs of what to leave out, and what to include, you use marked sections as details in point 1 to do this at relatively fine detail. If you want to omit entire chapters, you can do this by creating an alternative to the current top level handbook.sgml which only includes the appropriate chapters in the appropriate order. As to which sections to leave out -- I'd be loathe to remove the list of contributors. Possibly the e-mail addresses, yes, but not the names. 2 pages (small type, 3 columns?) of names is, I think, a small price to pay in recognition of the effort of an awful lot of people. > There are a couple of things which I think we don't need to do, but > I'm willing to listen to opinions: > > 1. Don't change the style. Sure, it's a hodgepodge, but that can > be explained, and I don't think that it will concern the target > audience too much. I do wonder about emoticons and such, but a > real style overhaul would be a very difficult job, and I'd > anticipate a number of clashes of viewpoint in the process. For emoticons, look for in the SGML source. It was one of the things I noted when I was going through it. I haven't decided yet whether to remove them, or use entities: and replace them. Then you can redefine those entities if you want to go all corporate. (Yes, I am serious about this &smiley.generic;) > 2. Don't change the overall format. I don't like it yet, but it's > an area that Nik has been working on, and I don't want to get in > his way. Seconded. Heavily. The Handbook (and soon to be the FAQ, and the tutorials, and so on) do not contain formatting markup. The correct approach to decide the formatting is in the stylesheets. I think I've grokked the solution to the main problem you've been having (which I'll go through in a private message). If it works for you, I'll commit it. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 12 14:48:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40F115542 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:48:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA10848; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:49:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:49:48 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Brandon Fosdick Cc: Sue Blake , meshko@cs.brandeis.edu, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/11093: remind user that he needs to be root to install port Message-ID: <19990412194948.A9344@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990412032503.1B6DC153BE@hub.freebsd.org> <19990412133835.55410@welearn.com.au> <371183A6.A7EB2B52@glue.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <371183A6.A7EB2B52@glue.umd.edu>; from Brandon Fosdick on Mon, Apr 12, 1999 at 01:24:54AM -0400 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Apr 12, 1999 at 01:24:54AM -0400, Brandon Fosdick wrote: > > I can identify with your problem, but I think this is a documentation > > problem not a ports problem. > > > > What documentation did you read to learn how to install a port? > > Maybe we can fix it so that it's clearer in future. > > I do this all the time too. The documentation needs a little help in this area > since it's not explicitly stated that you need to be root. (BTW, I like the > handbook's new look) This is going to be sort of fixed. There'll be more front matter about conventions adopted in the Handbook (what filenames look like, what commands look like, that sort of thing). One of them will say "If an example has a '#' it means do it as root, if it has a '%' or a '$' then do it as a normal user. I'm not averse to changing '#' to 'root#' to make it even more explicit. Better still (fanfare) since the DocBook conversion, making that change is, quite literally, a one liner! > But I also think that a simple check very early on in the > make process would help things immensely. At the very least it would help us > forgetful types. Just make sure that the error message is very clear, > something like, "You forgot to su dummy!". :) Not quite that simple, since you can do the ports/pkg_add thing without being root (if you wanted to install them in to your home directory, for example). Perhaps something that checked the permissions of where you were trying to install them to would be a better idea? N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 12 14:49: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5781563A; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:48:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id WAA31373; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:15:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:15:39 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: nik@FreeBSD.ORG, wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/6508: sgmlfmt does not expand relative URLs Message-ID: <19990412221539.A62203@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199904092125.OAA32384@freefall.freebsd.org> <19990411194126.48734@panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990411194126.48734@panke.de.freebsd.org>; from Wolfram Schneider on Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 07:41:26PM +0200 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 07:41:26PM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > On 1999-04-09 14:25:14 -0700, nik@FreeBSD.org wrote: > > Synopsis: sgmlfmt does not expand relative URLs > > > > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > > State-Changed-By: nik > > State-Changed-When: Fri Apr 9 14:24:15 PDT 1999 > > State-Changed-Why: > > You can't use relative URLs in the Handbook / FAQ, because you don't > > know where it's going to be installed relative to the rest of the > > website (or even *if* it's going to be installed with the rest of > > the website). > > ??? > > The location of the handbook (/handbook/) and the FAQ (/FAQ/) > is well known on the web site. The same is true for ports > projects, releases etc. True, but; > Our web mirrors *require* relative paths. Even a 155Mbit/s > Internet link is easy to overload. Only if you assume that everything will a) be mirroring the website and the handbook, b) have a mirror of the form http://www.foo.bar/, and not http://www.foo.bar/mirrors/FreeBSD/ (for example). I think the correct solution is to enforce absolute paths in the website, coupled with the &base; entity (which we already do). The FAQ, Handbook, and tutorials need to be treated differently (because they are independent of the website, and can be installed without the website). For those we need a similar entity (but possibly called something like &FreeBSDURL;, because &base; is too vague) that points to wherever they want references to the website to resolve to. For most people, this would probably be For someone like yourself, who probably has a local copy of the website permanently installed somewhere, and a webserver running, you could have or even Each URL that refers to the site in the Handbook and FAQ then looks something like; the search pages Does that make sense? I can submit this as a separate PR, if you want. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 12 15: 2:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF24714DC4 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:02:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id PAA96731; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail13.svr.pol.co.uk (mail13.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0536314CE2 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:00:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@eborcom.com) Received: from modem-118.buproprione.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.55.246]) by mail13.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10WoiK-00066F-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:57:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 13743 invoked by uid 5000); 12 Apr 1999 18:51:31 -0000 Message-Id: <19990412185131.13742.qmail@eborcom.com> Date: 12 Apr 1999 18:51:31 -0000 From: Tom Hukins To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11102: [Patch] Handbook: Minor spelling correction Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11102 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [Patch] Handbook: Minor spelling correction >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Apr 12 15:00:02 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Tom Hukins >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386 >Organization: eBORcOM >Environment: Plenty of cheap crack. ;-) >Description: Bruce Grisham spotted a small misspelling in the Handbook. The patch below is an attempt on my part to save face for misunderstanding the problem. >How-To-Repeat: More cheap crack? Not tested yet.. >Fix: --- en/handbook/internals/chapter.sgml.orig Tue Mar 9 19:06:14 1999 +++ en/handbook/internals/chapter.sgml Mon Apr 12 19:44:50 1999 @@ -1700,7 +1700,7 @@ Filesystem I/O—<literal>struct buf</literal> vnode-backed VM objects, such as file-backed objects, generally - need to maintain their own clean/dirty info independant from the VM + need to maintain their own clean/dirty info independent from the VM system's idea of clean/dirty. For example, when the VM system decides to synchronize a physical page to its backing store, the VM system needs to mark the page clean before the page is actually written to >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 12 16:43:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B0014CB7 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:43:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA57155; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:41:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Nik Clayton Cc: Greg Lehey , FreeBSD Documenters , "Robert A. Bruce" Subject: Re: Publishing the FreeBSD handbook In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:22:14 BST." <19990412212213.B9344@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:41:01 -0700 Message-ID: <57153.923960461@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > 1. Does the Handbook need a 6 month release cycle? The majority of > the content doesn't change that much in 6 months. Wouldn't a > threshold of "changes made since last printing" make more sense, > perhaps with a minimum 6 month wait between prints. I don't think 6 months is written in stone anywhere, it's probably just a working figure. I do know that part of the reason for doing this, as I stated before, is to get the handbook to the point where it's a going concern and people are actually getting paid to work on it (since volunteerism has left us with many sections asterisk'd for years :), and that might entail doing fairly regular releases just to keep that process going, but I certainly don't think anyone would demand a reprint if there were no substantially new content either. > 2. What's the Walnut Creek reaction been to my ideas about splitting > the Handbook up into smaller books? After "FreeBSD in 21 days" > gets done that's my next big project. If the Handbook suddenly > becomes 12 or 15 smaller handbooks in 8 or 9 months time that's > obviously going to affect whatever they're thinking of. Well, part of what was desired was a book (or books) to put into the FreeBSD retail box, and for that the little book model doesn't map so well. That said, if there's room for a substantial number of small books which come out of the handbook, so be it. I think we'd do better with a couple of smaller, more focused guides than we would with one big giant honking book that's hard to read. That was sort of the trend in the mid-90's and it appears, thankfully, to be one which is now in decline as the backlash against 300lb books that contain mountains of reprinted material (shovel-books) continues to grow. My main criticism of the handbook has always been that it fails to obey a consistent, logical style for each section. There would be absolutely nothing wrong with a 20 section handbook (or more) if each section were carefully written with the following guidelines: 1. First paragraph must summarize exactly just what it is we're talking about ("What is DNS?" "What is a web server?" etc). 2. 2nd and following paragraphs should contain quick setup information (e.g. "cookbook info") for those who just wish to get through the problem in the shortest period of time. 3. Last past of the section should include in-depth details on how it actually works and other under-the-hood sort of information for those who are actually interested in the meat. That way, you can immediately tell if the section you're in is what you actually wanted (sometimes section titles are misleading) and, if you're a beginning user, you can get quick gratification with the setup information (the approach taken by http://flag.blackened.net/freebsd, the infamous "FreeBSD for the lazy and hopeless" page). If you're a power user, on the other hand, you can just skip straight to the end of the section for the meat which you know will be there. Either way, it would go a long way towards eliminating one of the #1 complaints about the handbook, which is that you have to practically read the entire friggin' thing before you've really strained the last bit of useful information out of it. Seeing as how it was written by many different authors and with no "style guide" this is hardly surprising, but it still is a considerable jolt to move from one section to another and find that section 1 was written for dummies and section 2 for experts with nothing in between or general consistency at all. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 12 17:32:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tok.qiv.com (tok.qiv.com [205.238.142.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C8F153FA for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:32:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdn@acp.qiv.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tok.qiv.com (MailHost/Current) with UUCP id TAA34260; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:30:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jdn@localhost) by acp.qiv.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA01102; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:06:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jdn@acp.qiv.com) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:06:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Jay Nelson To: Nik Clayton Cc: FreeBSD Documenters Subject: How to format handbook (Re: Publishing the FreeBSD handbook) In-Reply-To: <19990412212213.B9344@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: [snip] > 3. Are there plans for any additional content to be "Print version only"? Some of the obvious in traditional bookwork, besides indices and perhaps appendices is the usual front matter (half titles, introduction, preface, forward/"how to use this...", etc.,) besides table of contents. The problem I'm having now, though, is with the front matter. The missing portions are easy to solve, but I can't see how to get roman folios or a title page graphic. The tag appears to be the wrapper for everything that is front matter, but I see no dsssl hooks that will set the page-number-format correctly on entering or reset it on leaving. Nothing I've tried does the right thing and by the time jade outputs TeX, the folios are already fixed as arabic. I can also see some of the hooks for graphics, but I haven't been able to make them work. Can anyone tell me what I'm missing? [snip] >If you want to include that information, you normally include "-ifoo" on >the command line of your SGML tools, otherwise they'll ignore it (the >default). > >That's a simplistic approach (in reality you'll probably have a number of >entities relating to this printing of the Handbook, turned on or off with >one other entity) but that's the basic idea. How would you handle style sheets with this approach? Lump it all into freebsd.dsl or create a wcprint (or some such) version of the modular stylesheets? I agree with Greg. I think a number of things need redoing for publication. The default format, as it exists now, is not economical, doesn't fit with the style WC has established and would add several needless signatures. What WC needs though, wouldn't work very well for a pdf or html version. So I think a distinction needs to be made between WC's print format and the default. How should the style sheets be handled if that distinction is made? (And how do I get roman numerals?) -- Jay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 12 19:25:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9ADE14CEC; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:25:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA33992; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:23:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:23:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904130223.TAA33992@freefall.freebsd.org> To: seggers@semyam.dinoco.de, ghelmer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10605: nfsiod(8) references LKM mechanisms on 3.1-current Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: nfsiod(8) references LKM mechanisms on 3.1-current State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 12 21:22:31 CDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch from Nathan Ahlstrom committed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 12 19:32:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454BF15617 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:32:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA34205; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from shasta.wstein.com (shasta.wstein.com [206.163.206.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CECFA14CEC for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:25:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joes@shasta.wstein.com) Received: (from joes@localhost) by shasta.wstein.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id TAA80259; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:22:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joes) Message-Id: <199904130222.TAA80259@shasta.wstein.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:22:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Stein Reply-To: joes@shasta.wstein.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, joes@wstein.com X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11105: Correct my e-mail address in the handbook, please Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11105 >Category: docs >Synopsis: My address in "submitters" section of handbook is wrong. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Apr 12 19:30:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Joseph Stein >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-BETA i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: I am no longer taking e-mail at seaport.net :) here is a diff for you. >How-To-Repeat: Read the submitters section of the handbook. joes@seaport.net is still listed there. >Fix: --- /usr/share/doc/handbook/submitters.sgml Tue Apr 6 16:31:27 1999 +++ ./submitters.sgml Mon Apr 12 19:20:04 1999 @@ -1636,8 +1636,8 @@ name='<jgrosch@superior.mooseriver.com>'> Josef Karthauser - Joseph Stein + Joseph Stein Josh Gilliam Josh Tiefenbach Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 12 19:36:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D96C15781; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:36:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA35032; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:34:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:34:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904130234.TAA35032@freefall.freebsd.org> To: oliver.fromme@heim3.tu-clausthal.de, ghelmer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11022: Typo in limits(1) manual page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Typo in limits(1) manual page State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 12 21:34:09 CDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch committed, thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 12 19:41:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84ED14E36; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:41:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA35360; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:39:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:39:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904130239.TAA35360@freefall.freebsd.org> To: molter@tin.it, ghelmer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11057: error in the man page for listen(2) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: error in the man page for listen(2) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 12 21:39:14 CDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patches merged from current. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 12 19:47:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F43F14BFF; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:47:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA35786; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:44:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:44:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904130244.TAA35786@freefall.freebsd.org> To: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de, ghelmer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10973: Patch: Have fsdb(8) man page refer correctly to editline(3) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Patch: Have fsdb(8) man page refer correctly to editline(3) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 12 21:44:42 CDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 12 21:56:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rapidnet.com (rapidnet.com [205.164.216.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D42514BFA for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:56:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adam@rapidnet.com) Received: from rapidnet.com (pt9-23.rapidnet.com [208.142.248.182]) by rapidnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA69230 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:54:17 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3712DCBF.6056D710@rapidnet.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:57:19 -0700 From: v X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Hello Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am a newbie and I was trying to install from ftp. It didn't work so I wrote a newsgroup and posted a question. My computer would lock up during the install when I type term at the ppp prompt. The response back from the newsgroup was that my modem was possibly a pnp modem and these don't work. I didn't see any references about this in the handbook, but then again I didn't read the hardware compatibility list well either. Anyways, my suggestion is to make a reference or a link to a compatible modems for ftp transfers. Also, for newbies such as myself, I didn't know that I needed to ftp files in binary. I think if these tips were more readily availble I could have FreeBSD installed on my system now. Please don't be offended. I think you guys do a great job and I'm trying to learn more about what you do. I just have difficulties with installing FreeBSD. Perhaps I missed what I suggested, if so please let me know where I can read this. Thank You, Adam VandeMore To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 12 22:12:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861631517D for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:12:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id WAA49609; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9DA14BFA for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:03:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip60.houston13.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.27.213.60]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6DD837071 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 01:01:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA01795; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:01:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Message-Id: <199904130501.AAA01795@holly.dyndns.org> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:01:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Costello Reply-To: chris@calldei.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11107: [Patch] Typo in www/en/docproj/submitting.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11107 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [Patch] Typo in www/en/docproj/submitting.sgml >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Apr 12 22:10:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chris Costello >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: None >Environment: www CVS tree, checked out on Monday, April 12, 1999. >Description: There's an ironic typo in the submitting.sgml page in the www CVS tree. "of" -> "or" >How-To-Repeat: http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/submitting.html shows it in action. >Fix: cvs server: Diffing . Index: submitting.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/www/en/docproj/submitting.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 submitting.sgml --- submitting.sgml 1998/10/27 12:00:21 1.2 +++ submitting.sgml 1999/04/13 05:00:37 @@ -131,7 +131,7 @@

    Either way, you are still going to be using send-pr to let the committers know about the change. If you do this, make sure that "Category" is set to "docs" and that "Class" is one of either - "doc-bug" (if your change fixes a problem, such as a typo) of + "doc-bug" (if your change fixes a problem, such as a typo) or "change-request" (if you are adding new information to an existing section).

    >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 12 23:50:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail6.svr.pol.co.uk (mail6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D75014DA0 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:50:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@eborcom.com) Received: from modem-56.thulium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.34.56] ident=[QDc+9+Q509quEj51B1NqqefsuXthmQnw]) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10WwzH-0000dr-00 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:48:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 19704 invoked by uid 5000); 12 Apr 1999 22:20:17 -0000 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:20:17 +0100 From: Tom Hukins To: Nik Clayton Cc: Wolfram Schneider , nik@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/6508: sgmlfmt does not expand relative URLs Message-ID: <19990412232017.A19607@eborcom.com> Mail-Followup-To: Nik Clayton , Wolfram Schneider , nik@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199904092125.OAA32384@freefall.freebsd.org> <19990411194126.48734@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990412221539.A62203@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990412221539.A62203@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Mon, Apr 12, 1999 at 10:15:39PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Apr 12, 1999 at 10:15:39PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > For most people, this would probably be > > > > For someone like yourself, who probably has a local copy of the website > permanently installed somewhere, and a webserver running, you could > have > > > > Each URL that refers to the site in the Handbook and FAQ then looks > something like; > > the search pages I've been thinking about something along these lines for a few days and I'm not sure if a generic &FreeBSDURL; would be appropriate. I have a local mirror of the Web site at http://freebsd.local/ but I don't have the whole site mirrored. I've got the GNATS repository but not the mailing list archives, for example. Therefore, I think it would be a good idea to have entities like &FreeBSDGNATS; &FreeBSDMail; or similar. This would allow my mirror of the site to link to query-pr.cgi and query-pr-summary.cgi locally, but link to mailindex.cgi at www.freebsd.org (or a European mirror if possible). Is this a good idea or am I complicating things too much? Regards, Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 1:27:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pix.golana.pub.ro (adsl-216-101-163-202.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.101.163.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F26C14DA1 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 01:27:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmihai@pix.golana.pub.ro) Received: by pix.golana.pub.ro (FreeBSD Smail3.2.0.101 #1) id m10WyWU-0001qHC; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 01:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 01:26:22 -0700 (PDT) From: mmihai X-Sender: mmihai@pix.mec-net.ro To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe freebsd-newbies freebsd@@adsl-216-101-163-202.dsl.pacbell.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 3:20:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall1.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D168215074 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 03:20:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id GAA25133; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 06:18:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id GAA01728; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 06:17:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lonmailhost.lehman.com (SMI-8.6/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id LAA19609; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:17:51 +0100 Message-ID: <19990413111750.F14492@lehman.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:17:50 +0100 From: nclayton@lehman.com To: Jay Nelson , Nik Clayton Cc: FreeBSD Documenters Subject: Re: How to format handbook (Re: Publishing the FreeBSD handbook) References: <19990412212213.B9344@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Jay Nelson on Mon, Apr 12, 1999 at 07:06:30PM -0500 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Apr 12, 1999 at 07:06:30PM -0500, Jay Nelson wrote: > On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > [snip] > > > 3. Are there plans for any additional content to be "Print version only"? > > Some of the obvious in traditional bookwork, besides indices and > perhaps appendices is the usual front matter (half titles, > introduction, preface, forward/"how to use this...", etc.,) besides > table of contents. I think having this in the on-line and 'regular' print versions is a good idea as well. > The problem I'm having now, though, is with the front matter. The > missing portions are easy to solve, but I can't see how to get roman > folios Roman folio? > or a title page graphic. can contain a . I don't know if the stylesheets do anything with it though. > The tag appears to be the > wrapper for everything that is front matter, but I see no dsssl hooks > that will set the page-number-format correctly on entering > or reset it on leaving. Nothing I've tried does the right thing and by > the time jade outputs TeX, the folios are already fixed as arabic. I > can also see some of the hooks for graphics, but I haven't been able > to make them work. Can anyone tell me what I'm missing? Not sure. Norm Walsh (ndw@nwalsh.com) is your best bet. > [snip] > > >If you want to include that information, you normally include "-ifoo" on > >the command line of your SGML tools, otherwise they'll ignore it (the > >default). > > > >That's a simplistic approach (in reality you'll probably have a number of > >entities relating to this printing of the Handbook, turned on or off with > >one other entity) but that's the basic idea. > > How would you handle style sheets with this approach? Lump it all into > freebsd.dsl or create a wcprint (or some such) version of the modular > stylesheets? > > I agree with Greg. I think a number of things need redoing for > publication. The default format, as it exists now, is not economical, > doesn't fit with the style WC has established and would add several > needless signatures. What WC needs though, wouldn't work very well for > a pdf or html version. So I think a distinction needs to be made > between WC's print format and the default. How should the style sheets > be handled if that distinction is made? First and foremost, I'm firmly of the opinion that the Doc. Proj. supported stylesheets should be most useful to the end-user. This means they need to make it easy for the end-user to get (print) output in USLetter or A4 size quickly and simply, without needing to make a huge number of changes. If they can also produce the WC version then that's a bonus. As we all know, the beauty of the DocBook approach is that the appearance can be changed, just by changing the stylesheet. You don't need to change the content at all[1]. At this point, I don't know if Norm Walsh's modular stylesheets are sufficiently flexible to do everything that would be required for a WC print of the handbook. This is mostly because I haven't seen anything like a list of requirements. I think it's likely that as they stand now, Norm's stylesheets are probably not suitable. I don't *know* this, I'm just making an assumption. Someone has to actually try and use them to typeset the book first. Assuming that they're not suitable, we can do one of two things; 1. Work with Norm to add features we need. 2. Write wc-docbook.dsl which formats DocBook according to WC's style. I don't know how feasible either of these approaches are. Approach 1 is the simplest, but I don't know busy Norm is at the moment. I do know that he's been willing to incorporate changes to the sheet based on my requests over the last year. Approach 2 requires someone who knows DSSSL. I don't. What it doesn't require is anyone currently on -doc to do any work. WC could go out and hire someone who doesn't even need to see the Handbook (they could just work from the DocBook DTD) to write it. [ As an aside -- The LinuxDoc people are also migrating to DocBook, so it might be in WC's interest to create wc-docbook.dsl anyway, so they can print lots of the Linux stuff as well ] I think it's probably a good idea if anyone else interested in this subscribes to the main DocBook mailing list, davenport@berkshire.net. I'm pretty certain that "Mechanisms to print books from DocBook source" is on topic for the list. You'll also get responses from people far more qualified to talk about this than I am. N [1] Almost completely true. You might need to add additional information, so that the stylesheets can make more intelligent decisions, but you don't add additional markup that changes the semantics. So changing "" to "" is OK, but "" to "
    " is not. -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 3:58: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from elixir.e.kth.se (elixir.e.kth.se [130.237.48.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B95314CFD for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 03:57:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lha@e.kth.se) Received: from robert.e.kth.se (robert.e.kth.se [130.237.48.106]) by elixir.e.kth.se (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA32405 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:55:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from lha@localhost) by robert.e.kth.se (8.9.2/8.9.2) id MAA02204; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:55:21 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:55:21 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199904131055.MAA02204@robert.e.kth.se> From: Love To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: afs sites Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/mirrors-afs.html The db-server has changed to: >stacken.kth.se # Stacken Computer Club, KTH, Sweden 130.237.234.43 #hot.stacken.kth.se 130.237.237.230 #fishburger.stacken.kth.se 130.237.234.3 #milko.stacken.kth.se Please note the it should be formated as shown above, it shouldn't be a
      list. Its entry in the CellServDB file, its looks that way, don't change it to another format. Thanks. Love To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 6: 4:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from firewall2.lehman.com (firewall.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D24A14CA9; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 06:04:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall2.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id JAA23482; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:02:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id JAA17072; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:01:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lonmailhost.lehman.com (SMI-8.6/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id OAA00372; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:01:38 +0100 Message-ID: <19990413140138.L14492@lehman.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:01:38 +0100 From: nclayton@lehman.com To: Wolfram Schneider , nik@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10086: FAQ font too large References: <199904092117.OAA31352@freefall.freebsd.org> <19990411192917.33393@panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19990411192917.33393@panke.de.freebsd.org>; from Wolfram Schneider on Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 07:29:17PM +0200 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 07:29:17PM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > Huh? Please compare the pages > > FAQ24.html and FAQ.html > > In FAQ.html the heading '2. Installation' has a large font > and 2.1, 2.2 etc. medium size fonts. > > In FAQ24.html the font size for '2. Installation' is > the same as for 2.1, 2.2 etc - all are large ;-/ The user's browser is configured incorrectly. Quoting from that page;

      2. Installation

      2.1. Which file [...] FreeBSD?

      If their browser shows level 2 and level 3 headings in the same font size there's nothing we can about that. N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 6:26:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE7D155EA; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 06:26:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id GAA01041; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 06:23:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 06:23:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904131323.GAA01041@freefall.freebsd.org> To: rv@fore.com, ghelmer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8611: kld man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: kld man page State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Tue Apr 13 08:23:45 CDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 6:41:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9D615180; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 06:41:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip60.houston13.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.27.213.60]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A34337071; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:39:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA45884; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:39:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:39:34 -0500 From: Chris Costello To: ghelmer@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: rv@fore.com, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8611: kld man page Message-ID: <19990413083934.A45737@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: chris@calldei.com References: <199904131323.GAA01041@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <199904131323.GAA01041@freefall.freebsd.org>; from ghelmer@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Apr 13, 1999 at 06:23:58AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Apr 13, 1999, ghelmer@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > Synopsis: kld man page > > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > State-Changed-By: ghelmer > State-Changed-When: Tue Apr 13 08:23:45 CDT 1999 > State-Changed-Why: > Committed, thanks. Perhaps it can reference other manual pages: kldload(8), kldunload(8), kldfind(2), kldfirstmod(2), kldload(2), kldnext(2), kldstat(2), kldunload(2) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > -- Chris Costello This is a random .signature tag line. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 6:44:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.fore.com (mailgate.fore.com [169.144.68.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B05915249; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 06:44:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rv@fore.com) Received: from mailman.fore.com (mailman.fore.com [169.144.2.12]) by mailgate.fore.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA14156; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:41:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sol.eng.fore.com (sol [169.144.155.73]) by mailman.fore.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17521; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:42:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from agastya.eng.fore.com (tejas [169.144.86.36]) by sol.eng.fore.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15218; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:41:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (rv@localhost) by agastya.eng.fore.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA19076; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:41:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904131341.JAA19076@agastya.eng.fore.com> X-Authentication-Warning: agastya.eng.fore.com: rv owned process doing -bs X-Authentication-Warning: agastya.eng.fore.com: rv@localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: chris@calldei.com Cc: ghelmer@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/8611: kld man page In-reply-to: Message from Chris Costello of "Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:39:34 CDT." <19990413083934.A45737@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: rv@fore.com X-Mailer: MH v6.8.3 X-LoopDetect: rv@fore.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:41:36 -0400 From: Rajesh Vaidheeswarran Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sure, it should. Just that they didn't exist when I wrote this :) I can submit another change, or ghelmer can update them. Either is fine with me. Thanks for pointing it out. rv -- using MH template repl.format -- In a previous message, Chris Costello writes: > On Tue, Apr 13, 1999, ghelmer@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > > Synopsis: kld man page > > > > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > > State-Changed-By: ghelmer > > State-Changed-When: Tue Apr 13 08:23:45 CDT 1999 > > State-Changed-Why: > > Committed, thanks. > > Perhaps it can reference other manual pages: > > kldload(8), kldunload(8), > > kldfind(2), kldfirstmod(2), kldload(2), kldnext(2), kldstat(2), > kldunload(2) > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > > > -- > Chris Costello > > This is a random .signature tag line. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 7:54:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.scl.ameslab.gov (mailhub.scl.ameslab.gov [147.155.137.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22AA14D0A for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:54:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@scl.ameslab.gov) Received: from demios.ether.scl.ameslab.gov ([147.155.137.54]) by mailhub.scl.ameslab.gov with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 10X4YW-0000MW-00; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:52:52 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:52:08 -0500 From: Guy Helmer To: chris@calldei.com Cc: rv@fore.com, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8611: kld man page In-Reply-To: <19990413083934.A45737@holly.dyndns.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Chris Costello wrote: > On Tue, Apr 13, 1999, ghelmer@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > > Synopsis: kld man page > > > > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > > State-Changed-By: ghelmer > > State-Changed-When: Tue Apr 13 08:23:45 CDT 1999 > > State-Changed-Why: > > Committed, thanks. > > Perhaps it can reference other manual pages: > > kldload(8), kldunload(8), > > kldfind(2), kldfirstmod(2), kldload(2), kldnext(2), kldstat(2), > kldunload(2) OK, done. Guy Guy Helmer, Ph.D. Candidate, Iowa State University Dept. of Computer Science Research Assistant, Ames Laboratory --- ghelmer@scl.ameslab.gov Research Assistant, Dept. of Computer Science --- ghelmer@cs.iastate.edu http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~ghelmer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 9:27:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.airnet.net (unknown [216.180.30.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10DE159BA for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:27:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@airnet.net) Received: from airnet.net (216.180.35.96) by alpha.airnet.net (Worldmail 1.3.167) for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; 13 Apr 1999 11:24:45 -0500 Message-ID: <37136FCC.5DA38381@airnet.net> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:24:44 -0500 From: Kris Kirby Organization: Non Illegitemus Carborundum. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: A Question for the FAQ... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I had a chance to upgrade and immediately noticed that under certain circumstances, the UDMA option of the wd(4) driver can interfere with audio playback. Symptoms include: Audio chopping, slowing down, stopping. All occur under heavy to "normal" (normal for playing back a 44100 Hz, 16 bit, stereo .WAV file) disk access. Turning off the DMA (flags 0x2000) results in a return to normalcy, without any loss in performance. (I bonnie'd the hard drive like crazy to make sure :-). Machine: AMD K6-2, 300 MHz. Spacewalker HOT-591P "Super 7" MB, 512K L2. RAM: 64MB of PC100, running at 66 MHz (Processor is 66 MHz version) Hard drive: 6.8G Maxtor DiamondMax (Maxtor 90680D4) Audio Card: Yamaha YMH0020, using Luigi's driver. Any other questions necessary, email me. I have fixed the problem at the point in time. It just seemed like a really good one for the FAQ to cover. -- Kris Kirby Home UAH CS WWW ------------------------------------------- TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 10: 3:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from aw164.netaddress.usa.net (aw164.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C466214E75 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:03:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from johnmichelini@usa.net) Received: (qmail 18569 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Apr 1999 17:00:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413170050.18568.qmail@aw164.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.64 by aw164 via web-mailer(M3.0.0.45) on Tue Apr 13 17:00:50 GMT 1999 Date: 13 Apr 99 10:00:50 PDT From: john michelini To: freebsd-doc@freeBSD.org Subject: FTP installation instructions X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.45) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I would like to install from an FTP site, but I found the documentation a= round the area for creating the floppy disks (in DOS) to be rather unclear. I = think I am supposed to have two freshly formatted disks at hand, and I have downloaded FDIMAGE to my hard disk, but the DOS commands listed don't see= m to apply to my particular cofiguration (a laptop with two partitioned drives= : C: and D:). Also, when at the FTP site, it's unclear which directories I sh= ould be in to find the files. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=3D1= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 10:52:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from aw163.netaddress.usa.net (aw163.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1683415773 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:52:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from johnmichelini@usa.net) Received: (qmail 18109 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Apr 1999 17:50:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413175032.18108.qmail@aw163.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.63 by aw163 via web-mailer(M3.0.0.45) on Tue Apr 13 17:50:32 GMT 1999 Date: 13 Apr 99 10:50:32 PDT From: john michelini To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Refresher course on anonymous FTP X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.45) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Any pointers in the direction of protocol for anonymous FTP? ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=3D1= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 13:32:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC5F14BEB; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:32:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dt@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA26706; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:30:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dt@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:30:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904132030.NAA26706@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, dt@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11001: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/hackers.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/hackers.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dt State-Changed-When: Tue Apr 13 13:29:59 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 13:33:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E04B414BEB; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:33:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dt@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA26799; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:30:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dt@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:30:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904132030.NAA26799@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, dt@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11002: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/hardware.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/hardware.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dt State-Changed-When: Tue Apr 13 13:30:29 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 13:33:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5981414BEB; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:33:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dt@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA26874; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:31:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dt@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:31:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904132031.NAA26874@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, dt@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11025: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/misc.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/misc.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dt State-Changed-When: Tue Apr 13 13:30:59 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 13:34:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B38214C06; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:34:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dt@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA27095; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:32:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dt@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:32:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904132032.NAA27095@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, dt@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11026: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/network.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/network.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dt State-Changed-When: Tue Apr 13 13:31:39 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 13:35:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21EDF14CB3; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:35:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dt@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA27182; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:32:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dt@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:32:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904132032.NAA27182@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, dt@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11027: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/preface.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/preface.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dt State-Changed-When: Tue Apr 13 13:32:27 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 13:35:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B7C14E69; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:35:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id WAA21783; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:33:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id VAA01988; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:45:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-ID: <19990413214540.44714@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:45:40 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: nik@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10086: FAQ font too large References: <199904092117.OAA31352@freefall.freebsd.org> <19990411192917.33393@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990413140138.L14492@lehman.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19990413140138.L14492@lehman.com>; from nclayton@lehman.com on Tue, Apr 13, 1999 at 02:01:38PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-04-13 14:01:38 +0100, nclayton@lehman.com wrote: > On Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 07:29:17PM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > Huh? Please compare the pages > > > > FAQ24.html and FAQ.html > > > > In FAQ.html the heading '2. Installation' has a large font > > and 2.1, 2.2 etc. medium size fonts. > > > > In FAQ24.html the font size for '2. Installation' is > > the same as for 2.1, 2.2 etc - all are large ;-/ > > The user's browser is configured incorrectly. Quoting from that page; > >

      2. Installation

      >

      2.1. Which file [...] FreeBSD?

      > > If their browser shows level 2 and level 3 headings in the same font size > there's nothing we can about that. It seems to be a netscape font size problem. If you use font size 14 or 18, the font size for

      is equal to

      (Times/Adobe, latin1). IMHO any font size less than 14 is to small to read. I hope the font size problem will disappears in the DocBook version. -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 13:35:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D907B14E19; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:35:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dt@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA27262; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:33:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dt@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:33:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904132033.NAA27262@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, dt@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11042: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/commercial.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/commercial.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dt State-Changed-When: Tue Apr 13 13:33:03 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 13:36:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8FB14D99; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:36:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dt@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA27344; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:34:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dt@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:34:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904132034.NAA27344@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, dt@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11043: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/x.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/x.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dt State-Changed-When: Tue Apr 13 13:33:35 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. 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(unknown-5-20.idt.com [157.165.5.20] (may be forged)) by mail03-oak.pilot.net with ESMTP id NAA18685 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Eng.idt.com (root@maxwell.Eng.idt.com [157.165.21.24]) by idt.com (8.8.5/8.7.5) with ESMTP id NAA18166 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:55:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from justinian.Eng.idt.com (justinian.Eng.idt.com [157.165.146.201]) by Eng.idt.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA16415 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:55:17 -0700 (PDT) From: David Honig Received: (dhonig@localhost) by justinian.Eng.idt.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA09432 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:55:11 -0700 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:55:11 -0700 Message-Id: <199904132055.NAA09432@justinian.Eng.idt.com> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: man page for find bug Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org the man page for 'find' in BSD 3.0 does not specify the search directory. in the SYNOPSIS section. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 16:43:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C84157C3; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:43:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id AAA25202; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:24:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:24:58 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: nik@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10086: FAQ font too large Message-ID: <19990414002457.A24865@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199904092117.OAA31352@freefall.freebsd.org> <19990411192917.33393@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990413140138.L14492@lehman.com> <19990413214540.44714@panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990413214540.44714@panke.de.freebsd.org>; from Wolfram Schneider on Tue, Apr 13, 1999 at 09:45:40PM +0200 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Apr 13, 1999 at 09:45:40PM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > It seems to be a netscape font size problem. If you use > font size 14 or 18, the font size for

      is equal to

      > (Times/Adobe, latin1). I don't have a working Netscape here. But Netscape 4.5 for Solaris shows the headings at different font sizes (i.e., correctly). I seem to recall there's an check-box option for it in the Netscape configuration. Something about allowing scalable fonts or something. > I hope the font size problem will disappears in the > DocBook version. It doesn't exactly disappear (it's a browser issue) but take a look at how the ToC for the Handbook appears throughout the Handbook. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 16:43:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871241586F; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:43:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id AAA26107; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:31:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:31:33 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami Cc: nik@freebsd.org, bde@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DocProj build Message-ID: <19990414003133.A25897@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <370A5AA5.66E8559A@thuntek.net> <370A5BD9.CF27C2BD@plutotech.com> <370A5C64.D3B4C0BD@thuntek.net> <370A6C14.F28210F1@plutotech.com> <370A78D8.FF59410F@thuntek.net> <199904062125.OAA72139@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> <199904110157.SAA30365@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199904110157.SAA30365@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu>; from Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami on Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 06:57:40PM -0700 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 06:57:40PM -0700, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: > By the way, "make clean" in doc/en/handbook leaves > "handbook.html-split.tar" and "handbook.html-split.tar.gz" behind. Fixed this in a commit last night. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 20: 0:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8DB14E58 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:00:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA22909; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:58:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjc) From: "Crist J. Clark" Message-Id: <199904140258.WAA22909@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Subject: Re: Refresher course on anonymous FTP In-Reply-To: <19990413175032.18108.qmail@aw163.netaddress.usa.net> from john michelini at "Apr 13, 99 10:50:32 am" To: johnmichelini@usa.net (john michelini) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:58:02 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: cjclark@home.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org john michelini wrote, > Any pointers in the direction of protocol for anonymous FTP? man ftpd -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 20:27:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F98514D21; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:27:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA15805; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA08857; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990414002457.A24865@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:24:44 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: docs/10086: FAQ font too large Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, nik@FreeBSD.ORG, Wolfram Schneider Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 13-Apr-99 Nik Clayton wrote: > On Tue, Apr 13, 1999 at 09:45:40PM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: >> It seems to be a netscape font size problem. If you use >> font size 14 or 18, the font size for

      is equal to

      >> (Times/Adobe, latin1). > > I don't have a working Netscape here. But Netscape 4.5 for Solaris > shows the headings at different font sizes (i.e., correctly). > > I seem to recall there's an check-box option for it in the Netscape > configuration. Something about allowing scalable fonts or something. Yep. If you have scaling turned off, some H? tags show up as the same size. With scaling on, they all have different sizes, but sometimes the scaled sizes don't look all that great. > N --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 13 23: 4:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailc.telia.com (mailc.telia.com [194.22.190.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 717531572A for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:04:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas.uhrfelt@plymovent.se) Received: from d1o68.telia.com (root@d1o68.telia.com [62.20.138.241]) by mailc.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05414 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:02:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tu (t4o68p97.telia.com [62.20.139.217]) by d1o68.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA18513 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:02:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:58:37 +0200 Message-ID: <01BE864C.9A6D8DA0.thomas.uhrfelt@plymovent.se> From: Thomas Uhrfelt Reply-To: "thomas.uhrfelt@plymovent.se" To: "'freebsd-doc@freebsd.org'" Subject: IPF + IPNAT Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:58:26 +0200 Organization: Plymovent AB X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet-e-post/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Since ipfilter is an kerneloption nowdays, wouldnt it be great to have a section in the handbook covering IPF+IPNAT? Just a thought from a total newbie in FreeBSDing. / Thomas Uhrfelt Datortekniker PlymoVent AB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 14 1:33:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE82614E8E for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:33:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA28518; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:30:19 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19990414183018.D28429@caamora.com.au> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:30:18 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: Nik Clayton , Greg Lehey Cc: FreeBSD Documenters , "Robert A. Bruce" Subject: Re: Publishing the FreeBSD handbook Mail-Followup-To: Nik Clayton , Greg Lehey , FreeBSD Documenters , "Robert A. Bruce" References: <19990412125145.J2142@lemis.com> <19990412212213.B9344@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19990412212213.B9344@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Mon, Apr 12, 1999 at 09:22:14PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Apr 12, 1999 at 09:22:14PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > How do, > > On Mon, Apr 12, 1999 at 12:51:45PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > > I've been looking at the handbook for a while, and have tidied up some > > rough edges, as you may have noticed. But basically it's clear that > > the handbook isn't really ready for printing in its current form, and > > Bob Bruce has agreed to postpone the matter until it can be tidied up > > a bit. We're hoping to be able to get it in printable shape by about > > August or September, and then he's talking about having a new edition > > printed about twice a year, so the handbook would be subjected to a > > release cycle similar in nature to the software release. > > I've been thinking about this a bit, and I've got a few questions. > > 1. Does the Handbook need a 6 month release cycle? The majority of > the content doesn't change that much in 6 months. Wouldn't a > threshold of "changes made since last printing" make more sense, > perhaps with a minimum 6 month wait between prints. put anotehr way .. we just went from teh v2 style to v3 style of doing things. that is their was some significant diferences between teh way tings in general were done. wouldn't it be better of do a print after this level of change was delivered in teh body of freebsd. > 2. What's the Walnut Creek reaction been to my ideas about splitting > the Handbook up into smaller books? After "FreeBSD in 21 days" > gets done that's my next big project. If the Handbook suddenly > becomes 12 or 15 smaller handbooks in 8 or 9 months time that's > obviously going to affect whatever they're thinking of. do we really need that many handbookettes, so to speak. harking back tot eh installation guide discussion, don't we (as a group) really only need, how to install and upgrade freebsd how to trouble shoot teh various sybsystems that make up teh whole. how to care, feed and cage teh networking beasties, also you cold 'fatten' this up with various of teh already submitted tutorials. finally, how to be a successfull sysdamin on a singel user, home bedroom sized network nad with a chunk added in as 'advanced system administration' for teh survoces providors amongst us. nearly forgot .. a manpages of teh the specifically freebsd, berkeley unix pages and a selection of teh most usefull to get a broken system back onto ists hard disk and running. this is waht 3 at teh most and would also be a sort of heterogenius whole .. having dozens of books on teh desktop is a bloody nuisance at teh best of times. being able to reach fro a relevant text makes fro far easier usages and that ;satisfyingly warm fuzzy glow when you have sloved teh problem quickly elegantly and teh minimun of disruption you yor desk top boo collection. > 3. Are there plans for any additional content to be "Print version only"? > > > I've done some thinking about what needs to be done. I've > > deliberately held off while the previous discussion about the future > > of the handbook, but it now looks as if we haven't come to any > > conclusions which would affect my issues. > > See point 2 above. > > > As I see it, in order to print the handbook, we need to: > > > > 1. Remove the "to be written" sections. Maybe there's a style > > sheet option which can help here (Nik?). Otherwise it might > > make more sense to just comment out these sections and create a > > document "to be done" which describes where they are. > > SGML marked sections. Essentially, you create an entity (call it 'foo' > for the sake of argument) and put > > > > in the DTD. Then, around content you want to ignore for this printed > version you wrap it in > > ... > ]]> > > If you want to include that information, you normally include "-ifoo" on > the command line of your SGML tools, otherwise they'll ignore it (the > default). > > That's a simplistic approach (in reality you'll probably have a number of > entities relating to this printing of the Handbook, turned on or off with > one other entity) but that's the basic idea. > > > 2. Update some old and mouldy sections. Some parts are so old as > > to be misleading, and if we don't update them we should > > eliminate them. If *you* have contributed in the past, now > > would be a good time to check over your contribution and > > consider whether you should update it. > > > > Of course, if you want to overhaul a contribution you didn't > > write, that's a great idea too, though I suppose it would be a > > good idea to check with the author first. > > This could well be a case of throwing $$$ at the problem. this is a noce position t be in, but throwing money at a probelm never solved teh probelm, all that this aproceh does is soakup teh available funds while they are available and tehn when teh taps are obout to be turned off the real solutions appear. > > > 3. Add an index, and generally improve the format. I'm planning to > > do this myself, but if anybody else wants to join in (or even > > take over), I'll be more than happy. > > Take a look around http://www.docbook.org/, in particular the bits that > talk about how you can automatically generate an index. automatically generated indexes are pathetically bad, it would have to be an execptionally good ai sequence or one of thse fuzzy logic implemantation that can spew out a primliminary cut. but, then a human would have to go through and check teh references and their relevance. while its noce, but do we really know on whch pages all teh 'and' words hide ... grin. cross referencing teh indvidual index entries would also make for amore usefull index, as opposed to a simple word amd it apperance type of list. i i can get my copy of teh books that came with an old ms dos platform application called framework, it had a very good spelling checker (one of teh bes i've ever seen actually) and it could generate indexes from its wordprocessor component that was very usefull .. they also explained how teh algorithm worked. framework was sold to teh dbase crowd who scuttled it eventually because it compted with their own flatfile database manager, dbase 4 et al. as yo can see indexing is a big thing with me, i use books a lot and find indexes invaluable in finding items quickly and with minium searching. this is why i dislike online/electronic documentation, unless it is in a wais accessable fromat, now thats indexing.. at work. > > 4. Remove some sections for the printed version only. For example, > > Bob suggested that most people who want to send core teams > > encrypted messages won't copy the key out of the book, they'll > > get it online, so we don't need to publish them. I also wonder > > whether we really need to publish 37 pages of contributor names > > and (possibly incorrect) mail addresses. > > Without getting in to the ins-and-outs of what to leave out, and what > to include, you use marked sections as details in point 1 to do this > at relatively fine detail. If you want to omit entire chapters, you > can do this by creating an alternative to the current top level > handbook.sgml which only includes the appropriate chapters in the > appropriate order. > > As to which sections to leave out -- I'd be loathe to remove the list of > contributors. Possibly the e-mail addresses, yes, but not the names. > 2 pages (small type, 3 columns?) of names is, I think, a small price to > pay in recognition of the effort of an awful lot of people. here here .. its a small price to pay for an effort that would other wise have not been forthcoming. > > There are a couple of things which I think we don't need to do, but > > I'm willing to listen to opinions: > > > > 1. Don't change the style. Sure, it's a hodgepodge, but that can > > be explained, and I don't think that it will concern the target > > audience too much. I do wonder about emoticons and such, but a > > real style overhaul would be a very difficult job, and I'd > > anticipate a number of clashes of viewpoint in the process. > > For emoticons, look for in the SGML source. It was one > of the things I noted when I was going through it. I haven't decided yet > whether to remove them, or use entities: coming from my corner of teh world, i think that they are a waste of effort, and dangerious. not everybody 'understands' or pareciactes teh value of thes scratches and prush strokes. may nisunderstands can be easily avioded by l;eaving thse silly tings out. > > > > > and replace them. Then you can redefine those entities if you want to go > all corporate. > > (Yes, I am serious about this &smiley.generic;) and this is supposed to mean ... smiles are ok fr thse still in grade school learning who to read and write, tehy have littel place in a referenntial text. des it really matter of teh scsi card has a smily tacked on to its config stream ? if it had some value i'd be for keeping them, but really what value do teh serve ? beyounf higly localised varnacular (mis)interpretation. > > > 2. Don't change the overall format. I don't like it yet, but it's > > an area that Nik has been working on, and I don't want to get in > > his way. > > Seconded. Heavily. The Handbook (and soon to be the FAQ, and the > tutorials, and so on) do not contain formatting markup. The correct > approach to decide the formatting is in the stylesheets. > > I think I've grokked the solution to the main problem you've been having > (which I'll go through in a private message). If it works for you, I'll > commit it. ummm, why change sometint that most peple are familiar with and works so well, fro at least this sometimes very slow user. a few crackers for teh picnic basket regards jonathan -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 14 2:15:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B861513D for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 02:15:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id FAA29422; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 05:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id FAA02855; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 05:12:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lonmailhost.lehman.com (SMI-8.6/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id KAA24520; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:12:21 +0100 Message-ID: <19990414101221.Y14492@lehman.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:12:21 +0100 From: nclayton@lehman.com To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: [Eduardo.Gutentag@eng.sun.com: DAVENPORT: Upcoming DocBook TC meeting] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, This popped up in the Davenport mailing list (davenport@berkshire.net, for people using and implementing DocBook). Ignore the Linux comment, I've already mentioned it on the list. Is there anyone here who can manage to go along? I'd love to, but can't afford the time off work at the moment. N --- Forwarded message from Eduardo Gutentag --- Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:03:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Eduardo Gutentag Subject: DAVENPORT: Upcoming DocBook TC meeting To: davenport@berkshire.net The OASIS Docbook TC will held its next meeting on Friday, April 23, from 2 to 4pm, in Granada, Spain. Generally, Docbook meetings are devoted to concrete work on the Docbook DTD. In this meeting, though, we would like to hold an informal session devoted to eliciting information from users of Docbook around the world, particularly from European nations, regarding their needs and the direction they would like Docbook to follow in the future. Another area of interest would be the addition or deletion of features with a view to improve interaction with current W3C activities (XML, XPointer, DOM, etc.) If you are anywhere near Granada that day, please consider coming over. Check the calendar at Oasis (http://www.oasis-open.org) and the gca site (http://www.gca.org/conf/euro99/index.htm) for venue info. Members of the Linux community (even if they are not members of OASIS) are also cordially invited. ******************************************************************************* Eduardo Gutentag Sun Microsystems Inc. SPG Staff Engineering Lead W3C XSL WG W3C XML Syntax WG Oasis Docbook TC - chair e-mail: eduardo@eng.Sun.COM Phone: (650) 786-5498 fax: (650) 786-5727 17 Network Circle - UMPK17-102, Menlo Park, CA 94025, USA ******************************************************************************* ----- End forwarded message ----- -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 14 3:12:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59859156DC for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 03:12:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id DAA46186; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 03:10:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id EC6BE15078; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 03:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990414101011.EC6BE15078@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 03:10:11 -0700 (PDT) From: nik@freebsd.org To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/11130: handbook/synching.html does not contain doc-all collection Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11130 >Category: docs >Synopsis: handbook/synching.html does not contain doc-all collection >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Apr 14 03:10:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Nik Clayton >Release: N/A >Organization: >Environment: N/A >Description: handbook/synching.html has a list of CVSup file collections. The doc repository isn't listed. It should be. Add the doc repository to the list. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 14 3:12:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A401529F for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 03:12:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id DAA46177; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 03:10:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.research.zopps.fi (ws66.research.zopps.fi [195.165.196.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A63D15057 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 03:05:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from martti@research.zopps.fi) Received: from ws70.research.zopps.fi (ws70.research.zopps.fi [195.165.196.70]) by server.research.zopps.fi (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA45630 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:02:55 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from martti.kuparinen) Received: (from martti@localhost) by ws70.research.zopps.fi (8.9.2/8.8.8) id NAA14319; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:02:54 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from martti@smtp.research.zopps.fi) Message-Id: <199904141002.NAA14319@ws70.research.zopps.fi> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:02:54 +0300 (EEST) From: martti.kuparinen@ericsson.com Reply-To: martti.kuparinen@ericsson.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11129: [PATCH] Fixed wrong e-mail address in the handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11129 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Fix for wrong e-mail address >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Apr 14 03:10:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Martti Kuparinen >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Oy L M Ericsson Ab >Environment: >Description: I saw that my e-mail address is wrong in doc/handbook/submitters.sgml >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Apply the following patch to make me reachable :-) *** submitters.sgml.orig Wed Apr 14 12:54:37 1999 --- submitters.sgml Wed Apr 14 12:55:20 1999 *************** *** 1839,1846 **** name='<dada@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at>'> Martin Renters ! Martti Kuparinen Masachika ISHIZUKA Mas.TAKEMURA Martin Renters ! Martti Kuparinen Masachika ISHIZUKA Mas.TAKEMURA Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 14 3:22:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE4F14C90 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 03:22:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.164.76]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990414102200.HTOL5752963.mta2-rme@wocker>; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:22:00 +1200 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: "Cleber Ribeiro" Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:20:09 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: I need documentations Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <03256752.00726871.00@cqgrj1> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990414102200.HTOL5752963.mta2-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 13 Apr 99, at 17:49, Cleber Ribeiro wrote: > Hi !!!! > I would like to acquire the complete documentation for me to get > to diffuse in the internet the files to install FreeBSD UNIX > step-to-step. I was looking at the site www.freebsd.org and I > didn't get to find the files to install Unix FreeBSD. Please help > me. as I do to install and to configure and to diffuse in the > internet the files of BSD. The files can be grandes,mais I will > diffuse them like this same. for the love of God it helps me > urgent Try http://www.freebsddiary.com/freebsd/topics.htm -- Dan Langille The FreeBSD Diary http://www.FreeBSDDiary.com/freebsd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 14 3:38:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3710714F64; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 03:38:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id DAA48144; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 03:36:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 03:36:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904141036.DAA48144@freefall.freebsd.org> To: martti.kuparinen@ericsson.com, jkoshy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11129: Fix for wrong e-mail address Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Fix for wrong e-mail address State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Wed Apr 14 03:33:57 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in rev 1.22 of "doc/en/handbook/contrib/chapter.sgml". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 14 4:10: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from maile.telia.com (maile.telia.com [194.22.190.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C8CC14F0B for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 04:09:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas.uhrfelt@plymovent.se) Received: from d1o68.telia.com (root@d1o68.telia.com [62.20.138.241]) by maile.telia.com (8.8.5/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17381; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:07:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tu (t4o68p12.telia.com [62.20.139.132]) by d1o68.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA18259; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:07:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:03:56 +0200 Message-ID: <01BE8677.412708E0.thomas.uhrfelt@plymovent.se> From: Thomas Uhrfelt Reply-To: "thomas.uhrfelt@plymovent.se" To: "'junkmale@xtra.co.nz'" Cc: "freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: SV: I need documentations Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:02:21 +0200 Organization: Plymovent AB X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet-e-post/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Dan, Do you think its possible for you to merge some of your documents together and updating them a bit, what I am looking for is sort of a documnent that starts when FreeBSD is installed and one is about to.. a) get the network/routing to work ( not the actual kernelfiddling ) b) get a computer to route between networks ( using IPNAT ). What I really would like is an updated handbook, but since that might be quite far away, I am putting my gold in your basket. Regards, Thomas On 13 Apr 99, at 17:49, Cleber Ribeiro wrote: > Hi !!!! > I would like to acquire the complete documentation for me to get > to diffuse in the internet the files to install FreeBSD UNIX > step-to-step. I was looking at the site www.freebsd.org and I > didn't get to find the files to install Unix FreeBSD. Please help > me. as I do to install and to configure and to diffuse in the > internet the files of BSD. The files can be grandes,mais I will > diffuse them like this same. for the love of God it helps me > urgent Try http://www.freebsddiary.com/freebsd/topics.htm -- Dan Langille The FreeBSD Diary http://www.FreeBSDDiary.com/freebsd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 14 4:49: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C310E14F73; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 04:49:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id EAA54636; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 04:46:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 04:46:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904141146.EAA54636@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nrahlstr@winternet.com, jkoshy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11046: RELENG_3_1_0_RELEASE is not mentioned in the handbook. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: RELENG_3_1_0_RELEASE is not mentioned in the handbook. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Wed Apr 14 04:45:03 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in rev 1.15 of "doc/en/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml", thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 14 5: 1:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E74A14F73 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 05:01:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.164.76]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990414120022.INDZ5596385.mta1-rme@wocker>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:00:22 +1200 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Thomas Uhrfelt Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:58:49 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: SV: I need documentations Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: "freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG" In-reply-to: <01BE8677.412708E0.thomas.uhrfelt@plymovent.se> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990414120022.INDZ5596385.mta1-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 14 Apr 99, at 13:02, Thomas Uhrfelt wrote: > Do you think its possible for you to merge some of your documents together > and updating them a bit, what I am looking for is sort of a documnent that > starts when FreeBSD is installed and one is about to.. Sure it's possible. But I'm not sure it's feasible. See below. Which documents did you feel needed updating? > a) get the network/routing to work ( not the actual kernelfiddling ) What part of network routing? What do you want the box to do? I assume this will be a gateway. > b) get a computer to route between networks ( using IPNAT ). I take it this is the gateway you mentioned above? > What I really would like is an updated handbook, but since that might be > quite far away, I am putting my gold in your basket. Well, all the information is at the website. As you mention, it's in more that one article. Each article deals with a specific task. I'm not sure that combining them into one article makes sense. However, what I think you are looking for is what someone else [sorry, can't remember the name] called a recipe book. That's a set of instructions to create a specific type of machine (gateway, workstation, etc). I figure you want a document which shows you which documents you need to achieve a particular objective. By itself, I think this is a good idea. Quite useful And not very difficult to put together given that the main articles already exist. What do you think? What do others think? -- Dan Langille The FreeBSD Diary http://www.FreeBSDDiary.com/freebsd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 14 5:15:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from maile.telia.com (maile.telia.com [194.22.190.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A716D15168 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 05:15:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas.uhrfelt@plymovent.se) Received: from d1o68.telia.com (root@d1o68.telia.com [62.20.138.241]) by maile.telia.com (8.8.5/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24178; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:13:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tu (t1o68p59.telia.com [62.20.138.59]) by d1o68.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA14540; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:13:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:09:30 +0200 Message-ID: <01BE8680.69F62EF0.thomas.uhrfelt@plymovent.se> From: Thomas Uhrfelt Reply-To: "thomas.uhrfelt@plymovent.se" To: "'junkmale@xtra.co.nz'" Cc: "freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: SV: SV: I need documentations Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:09:12 +0200 Organization: Plymovent AB X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet-e-post/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, sort of a recepiebook, that would be a great addition to the FreeBSD documentation. I posted a message on what exactly I am trying to accomplish in the net-mailing list, so if you need information, please take a look on that posting. Regards, Thomas Uhrfelt > On 14 Apr 99, at 13:02, Thomas Uhrfelt wrote: > > > Do you think its possible for you to merge some of your documents together > > and updating them a bit, what I am looking for is sort of a documnent that > > starts when FreeBSD is installed and one is about to.. > > Sure it's possible. But I'm not sure it's feasible. See below. Which > documents did you feel needed updating? > > > a) get the network/routing to work ( not the actual kernelfiddling ) > > What part of network routing? What do you want the box to do? I assume > this will be a gateway. > > > b) get a computer to route between networks ( using IPNAT ). > > I take it this is the gateway you mentioned above? > > > What I really would like is an updated handbook, but since that might be > > quite far away, I am putting my gold in your basket. > > Well, all the information is at the website. As you mention, it's in more > that one article. Each article deals with a specific task. I'm not sure > that combining them into one article makes sense. > > However, what I think you are looking for is what someone else [sorry, > can't remember the name] called a recipe book. That's a set of > instructions to create a specific type of machine (gateway, workstation, > etc). I figure you want a document which shows you which documents you > need to achieve a particular objective. > > By itself, I think this is a good idea. Quite useful And not very difficult to put together given that the > main articles already exist. > > What do you think? What do others think? > > -- > Dan Langille > The FreeBSD Diary > http://www.FreeBSDDiary.com/freebsd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 14 6:22:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A84815741 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 06:22:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id GAA60808; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 06:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28AF614FA2 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 06:14:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id PAA11367 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:12:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id PAA01277; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:06:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-Id: <199904141306.PAA01277@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:06:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Wolfram Schneider Reply-To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11133: FreeBSD users group for Adelaide, South Australia - SAFUG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11133 >Category: docs >Synopsis: FreeBSD users group for Adelaide, South Australia - SAFUG >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Apr 14 06:20:02 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Wolfram Schneider >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:52:54 +0930 (CST) Reply-To: cjag@knfpub.com From: Christine Jaeger To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SAFUG - new FreeBSD users group Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Hi everyone, We would like to announce a new FreeBSD users group for Adelaide, South Australia - SAFUG. For more details please visit our website at http://www.knfpub.com/safug/index.html If you would like to subscribe to our mailing list, please send an email to majordomo@beldin.net with a blank subject line and subscribe safug in the message body. Our first meeting is not yet confirmed, but we hope to hold one sometime in May. Announcements about the meeting will be posted on our website and mailing list. If you have any further questions, please email cjag@knfpub.com or beldin@beldin.net Cheers, Chris :) ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Christine Jaeger Date: 13-Apr-99 Time: 20:51:01 ---------------------------------- >Description: >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 14 8:19:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (mail.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A3C15098 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:19:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kelly@plutotech.com) Received: from plutotech.com (kelly@tampopo.plutotech.com [206.168.67.161]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA13485; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:16:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from kelly@plutotech.com) Message-ID: <3714B165.53F93C7B@plutotech.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:16:53 -0600 From: Sean Kelly Organization: Pluto Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nclayton@lehman.com Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Eduardo.Gutentag@eng.sun.com: DAVENPORT: Upcoming DocBook TC meeting] References: <19990414101221.Y14492@lehman.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > This popped up in the Davenport mailing list (davenport@berkshire.net, for > people using and implementing DocBook). I gave up on Davenport some time ago since it was the only list to which I subscribed (at the time) that suffered from spam---and lots of it. Unfortunately, I'm at a conference all next week in Las Vegas. > Ignore the Linux comment, I've already mentioned it on the list. I know you said to ignore it ... but that comment really got my goat for some reason. :-( --Sean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 14 8:24:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from firewall2.lehman.com (firewall2.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0830151FA for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:24:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall2.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id LAA23894; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:22:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id LAA23130; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:21:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lonmailhost.lehman.com (SMI-8.6/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id QAA19306; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:21:35 +0100 Message-ID: <19990414162135.O14492@lehman.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:21:35 +0100 From: nclayton@lehman.com To: Sean Kelly Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Eduardo.Gutentag@eng.sun.com: DAVENPORT: Upcoming DocBook TC meeting] References: <19990414101221.Y14492@lehman.com> <3714B165.53F93C7B@plutotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <3714B165.53F93C7B@plutotech.com>; from Sean Kelly on Wed, Apr 14, 1999 at 09:16:53AM -0600 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Apr 14, 1999 at 09:16:53AM -0600, Sean Kelly wrote: > > This popped up in the Davenport mailing list (davenport@berkshire.net, for > > people using and implementing DocBook). > > I gave up on Davenport some time ago since it was the only list to which > I subscribed (at the time) that suffered from spam---and lots of it. Davenport is now moderated, which has obviously killed the spam problem. > > Ignore the Linux comment, I've already mentioned it on the list. > > I know you said to ignore it ... but that comment really got my goat for > some reason. :-( I've had a nice apology from Eduardo for that. I sent out; I know I've been known to harp on about this a bit (and Norm's fully justified if he decides to moderate this message in to oblivion) but not everyone using DocBook in the free Unix arena is using Linux. Really. Having just spent a year converting 1.3MB of LinuxDoc markup to DocBook[1] for the _FreeBSD_ Documentation Project, it can get a bit wearing to hear "Linux this" and "Linux that" all the time. Thanks, N [1] The FreeBSD Handbook, available at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/, and ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/. I don't know of any comparable body of Linux documentation available in DocBook. . . which seems to have been well received. N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 14 11:41:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117A614D2F; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:41:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id LAA36124; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:39:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:39:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904141839.LAA36124@freefall.freebsd.org> To: stefan.witzel@zvw.uni-goettingen.de, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8464: Missing include file when using Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Missing include file when using State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Wed Apr 14 11:38:11 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Which man page should be updated by this? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 14 11:47:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5127E15905; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:47:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id LAA36754; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:45:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:45:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904141845.LAA36754@freefall.freebsd.org> To: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8602: symlink(7) manpage says that file(1) has -h option. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: symlink(7) manpage says that file(1) has -h option. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Wed Apr 14 11:45:12 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 14 11:52:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D296015208; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:52:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id LAA37171; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:50:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:50:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904141850.LAA37171@freefall.freebsd.org> To: hnokubi@yyy.or.jp, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8682: some small bug fixes to ld.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: some small bug fixes to ld.1 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Wed Apr 14 11:49:58 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch applied, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 14 11:53:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75D81577D; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:53:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id LAA37353; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:51:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:51:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904141851.LAA37353@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/9228: AMD's texinfo doc doesn't get installed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: AMD's texinfo doc doesn't get installed Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->obrien Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Apr 14 11:50:23 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: David, AMD is your baby. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 14 11:56:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658C515208; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:56:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id LAA37607; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:54:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:54:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904141854.LAA37607@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nagao@iij.ad.jp, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/9264: Incorrectness in tsort(1) manpage. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Incorrectness in tsort(1) manpage. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Wed Apr 14 11:53:19 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed by billf in usr.bin/tsort/tsort.1:1.5, but he forgot to close the PR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 14 12: 2:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05BC157DA; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:02:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id MAA38268; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:00:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904141900.MAA38268@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ijliao@Terry.Dorm10.NCTU.edu.tw, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/9288: typo in doc/FAQ/preface.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: typo in doc/FAQ/preface.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Wed Apr 14 11:59:52 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Change committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 14 14: 3:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FC8158F1; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:03:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA030763595; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:59:55 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:59:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: nik@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: nagao@iij.ad.jp, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/9264: Incorrectness in tsort(1) manpage. In-Reply-To: <199904141854.LAA37607@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 nik@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > Synopsis: Incorrectness in tsort(1) manpage. > > State-Changed-Why: > Fixed by billf in usr.bin/tsort/tsort.1:1.5, but he forgot to close the > PR. /me blushes. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 14 15:21: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98D014E59; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:21:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id PAA11075; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:18:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:18:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904142218.PAA11075@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@freebsd.org, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11130: handbook/synching.html does not contain doc-all collection Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: handbook/synching.html does not contain doc-all collection State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Wed Apr 14 15:16:06 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: As JesusR points out, it does exist. I appear to be going blind -- time to crank up the font size on the xterms, obviously. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 14 15:42:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F4715843 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:42:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id XAA13221 for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:39:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:39:46 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Small change to textproc/docbook (DocBook 3.1 now ported) Message-ID: <19990414233945.A10075@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, I've changed textproc/docbook. This should not affect you if you have already installed this port. Previously, the port installed versions 2.4.1 and 3.0 of the DocBook DTD. I have now split these DTDs out in to there own ports, docbook-241, docbook-300, and now, docbook-310 for version 3.1 of the DTD. The docbook port now checks to see if these DTDs have been installed. If they haven't, it pulls in the ports. If one or more of them is missing then it only pulls in the ones that are missing. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 14 23:24:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C51F15380 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:24:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.164.76]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990415062323.QLDF5596385.mta1-rme@wocker>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:23:23 +1200 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Thomas Uhrfelt Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:21:50 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: SV: SV: I need documentations Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: "freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG" In-reply-to: <01BE8680.69F62EF0.thomas.uhrfelt@plymovent.se> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990415062323.QLDF5596385.mta1-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 14 Apr 99, at 14:09, Thomas Uhrfelt wrote: > Yes, sort of a recepiebook, that would be a great addition to the FreeBSD > documentation. Well, I'll add it to my task list. > I posted a message on what exactly I am trying to > accomplish in the net-mailing list, so if you need information, please > take a look on that posting. I searched the freebsd-net mailing list archives, but I didn't find anything with your surname on it. Perhaps it's not made the archive. -- Dan Langille The FreeBSD Diary http://www.FreeBSDDiary.com/freebsd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 15 5:42:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF15C158EC for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 05:42:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id FAA82897; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 05:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9140314F01 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 05:41:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip107.houston2.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.11.201.107]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA313707A for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:39:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA05854; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:39:50 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Message-Id: <199904151239.HAA05854@holly.dyndns.org> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:39:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Costello Reply-To: chris@calldei.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11150: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/security/chapters.sgml out of date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11150 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/security/chapters.sgml out of date >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Apr 15 05:40:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chris Costello >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: no >Environment: doc tree CVSup'd this morning. >Description: doc/en/handbook/security/chapters.sgml describes libraries owned by bin:bin and shows a superfluous step in determining whether or not one is using DES. (Disclaimer: I don't have DES installed, so I'm still using the version of the .so in the ls output of the original) >How-To-Repeat: Not applicable. >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en/handbook/security/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.13 diff -u -r1.13 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 1999/04/08 21:33:23 1.13 +++ chapter.sgml 1999/04/15 12:38:07 @@ -76,11 +76,10 @@ symbolic link to the appropriate implementation. For example, on a system using the DES versions: - &prompt.user; cd /usr/lib -&prompt.user; ls -l /usr/lib/libcrypt* -lrwxr-xr-x 1 bin bin 13 Sep 5 12:50 libcrypt.a -> libdescrypt.a -lrwxr-xr-x 1 bin bin 18 Sep 5 12:50 libcrypt.so.2.0 -> libdescrypt.so.2.0 -lrwxr-xr-x 1 bin bin 15 Sep 5 12:50 libcrypt_p.a -> libdescrypt_p.a + &prompt.user; ls -l /usr/lib/libcrypt* +lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13 Mar 19 06:56 libcrypt.a -> libdescrypt.a +lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 18 Mar 19 06:56 libcrypt.so.2.0 -> libdescrypt.so.2.0 +lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 15 Mar 19 06:56 libcrypt_p.a -> libdescrypt_p.a On a system using the MD5-based libraries, the same links will be present, but the target will be libscrypt rather >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 15 7:32:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA2C1501F for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:32:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id HAA41859; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F3315372 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:31:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip107.houston2.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.11.201.107]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764103708F for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:28:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA06439; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:29:07 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Message-Id: <199904151429.JAA06439@holly.dyndns.org> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:29:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Costello Reply-To: chris@calldei.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11153: [Patch] en/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml is out of date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11153 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [Patch] en/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml is out of date >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Apr 15 07:30:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chris Costello >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: no >Environment: doc tree, CVSup'd this morning. >Description: '>' prompt should be changed to 'ftp>' /usr/X11R6 base needs to be mentioned as well as /usr/local make deinstall should be mentioned as well as pkg_delete bin:bin ownership should be root:wheel >How-To-Repeat: Not applicable. >Fix: Index: en/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.12 diff -u -r1.12 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 1999/04/08 21:29:45 1.12 +++ chapter.sgml 1999/04/15 14:17:44 @@ -138,8 +138,8 @@ ===> Installing for ElectricFence-2.0.5 ===> Warning: your umask is "0002". If this is not desired, set it to an appropriate value and install this port again by ``make reinstall''. -install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 /usr/ports/devel/ElectricFence/work/ElectricFence-2.0.5/libefence.a /usr/local/lib -install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 /usr/ports/devel/ElectricFence/work/ElectricFence-2.0.5/libefence.3 /usr/local/man/man3 +install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/devel/ElectricFence/work/ElectricFence-2.0.5/libefence.a /usr/local/lib +install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/devel/ElectricFence/work/ElectricFence-2.0.5/libefence.3 /usr/local/man/man3 ===> Compressing manual pages for ElectricFence-2.0.5 ===> Registering installation for ElectricFence-2.0.5 @@ -195,7 +195,9 @@ Install the program executable and other supporting files, man - pages, etc. under the /usr/local hierarchy, + pages, etc. under the /usr/local hierarchy + (unless this is an X11 program, + then it will be under /usr/X11R6), where they will not get mixed up with system programs. This also makes sure that all the ports you install will go in the same place, instead of being flung all over your system. @@ -287,10 +289,10 @@ &prompt.root; ftp ftp.freebsd.org [log in as `ftp' and give your email address when asked for a password. Remember to use binary (also known as image) mode!] -> cd /pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/databases -> get gnats.tar +ftp> cd /pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/databases +ftp> get gnats.tar [tars up the gnats skeleton for us] -> quit +ftp> quit &prompt.root; tar xf gnats.tar [extract the gnats skeleton] &prompt.root; cd gnats @@ -318,10 +320,10 @@ &prompt.root; ftp ftp.freebsd.org [log in as `ftp' and give your email address when asked for a password. Remember to use binary (also known as image) mode!] -> cd /pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports -> get databases.tar +ftp> cd /pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports +ftp> get databases.tar [tars up the databases directory for us] -> quit +ftp> quit &prompt.root; tar xf databases.tar [extract all the database skeletons] &prompt.root; cd databases @@ -811,6 +813,11 @@ A. No problem, just do &prompt.root; pkg_delete grizzle-6.5 + + Alternatively, you can do + + &prompt.root; cd /usr/ports/somewhere/grizzle +&prompt.root; make deinstall >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 15 15:36:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B21914D30 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:36:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id XAA04669 for doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:11:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:11:16 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Doc. Proj. questions? Post 'em to the list Message-ID: <19990415231116.B2444@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, I'm finding that an increasing number of questions relating to the Doc. Proj. are being sent to me directly, rather than being sent to the -doc list. I've got no objection to receiving questions privately, and will do my best to answer them. However, please think about sending them via the -doc list instead. That way the question (and any responses) will make it in to the archives, so that hopefully they can help the next person to come along. I read -doc religiously, and do my best to answer everything that comes up here as soon as I can. If you think that I've missed something, feel free to point it out to me in private e-mail, but do let me know that I can cc: the reply back to -doc if necessary. Thanks, N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 15 15:37:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60D814D30 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:36:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id XAA04260; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:08:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:08:02 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Nik Clayton , Greg Lehey , FreeBSD Documenters , "Robert A. Bruce" Subject: Re: Publishing the FreeBSD handbook Message-ID: <19990415230802.A2444@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990412125145.J2142@lemis.com> <19990412212213.B9344@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990414183018.D28429@caamora.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990414183018.D28429@caamora.com.au>; from jonathan michaels on Wed, Apr 14, 1999 at 06:30:18PM +1000 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Apr 14, 1999 at 06:30:18PM +1000, jonathan michaels wrote: > On Mon, Apr 12, 1999 at 09:22:14PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > 1. Does the Handbook need a 6 month release cycle? The majority of > > the content doesn't change that much in 6 months. Wouldn't a > > threshold of "changes made since last printing" make more sense, > > perhaps with a minimum 6 month wait between prints. > > put anotehr way .. we just went from teh v2 style to v3 style > of doing things. that is their was some significant diferences > between teh way tings in general were done. > > wouldn't it be better of do a print after this level of change > was delivered in teh body of freebsd. That's pretty much what I was thinking. Doubtless we'll be flexible in these things. > > 2. What's the Walnut Creek reaction been to my ideas about splitting > > the Handbook up into smaller books? After "FreeBSD in 21 days" > > gets done that's my next big project. If the Handbook suddenly > > becomes 12 or 15 smaller handbooks in 8 or 9 months time that's > > obviously going to affect whatever they're thinking of. > > do we really need that many handbookettes, so to speak. I think so. . . > harking back tot eh installation guide discussion, don't we (as > a group) really only need, > > how to install and upgrade freebsd > > how to trouble shoot teh various sybsystems that make up teh > whole. Yeah. But each 'sub-system' could have 100-150 pages written about it. Printing, for example. Or the nuances of setting up e-mail (sendmail, qmail, postfix, majordomo, spam handling, procmail, . . .) [...] > nearly forgot .. a manpages of teh the specifically freebsd, > berkeley unix pages and a selection of teh most usefull to get > a broken system back onto ists hard disk and running. Yep. That covers the users. How about the developers? I'd love to see 100-150 pages about writing device drivers for FreeBSD, perhaps tackling one of the existing ones (sio, nlpt?) and showing how it does what it does, and why. "Writing a FreeBSD KLD", that sort of thing, too. All this is some way off. But some sort of framework for it to happen in is a good thing. > this is waht 3 at teh most and would also be a sort of > heterogenius whole .. having dozens of books on teh desktop is > a bloody nuisance at teh best of times. being able to reach fro > a relevant text makes fro far easier usages and that > ;satisfyingly warm fuzzy glow when you have sloved teh problem > quickly elegantly and teh minimun of disruption you yor desk > top boo collection. I sort of agree about this, but it does depend on what you're doing, and what level you're at. For example, it's been a long time since I set up a FreeBSD printer, so the Handbook section is great for me, since it covers just about everything I would need. If it's the sort of thing I do every month then I likely just need bullet points to remind what I'm supposed to be doing. I think there's room for both approaches. [...] > > This could well be a case of throwing $$$ at the problem. > > this is a noce position t be in, but throwing money at a > probelm never solved teh probelm, all that this aproceh does is > soakup teh available funds while they are available and tehn > when teh taps are obout to be turned off the real solutions > appear. I was making the distinction between relying on volunteer effort, and having someone paid to do it. To use me as an example, my FreeBSD efforts are (of necessity) restricted to about 4 hours a night, 4 or (maybe) 5 nights a week (less on a bad week). This limits the amount I can do. The other 8 or 9 hours each day are spent on my paying job. If I was being paid to do the Doc. Proj. stuff I'd get a lot more done (more accurately, all the stuff I want to do would get done faster). Incidentally, this should not be read as a plea for FreeBSD Inc. to start paying me. I doubt they could match what I'm currently on. But suppose that there's a glaring ommission in the docs -- I'd be happy to see money spent on paying a qualified author to write that section. > > > 3. Add an index, and generally improve the format. I'm planning to > > > do this myself, but if anybody else wants to join in (or even > > > take over), I'll be more than happy. > > > > Take a look around http://www.docbook.org/, in particular the bits that > > talk about how you can automatically generate an index. > > automatically generated indexes are pathetically bad, it would > have to be an execptionally good ai sequence or one of thse > fuzzy logic implemantation that can spew out a primliminary > cut. but, then a human would have to go through and check teh > references and their relevance. Ah ha! For this we have DocBook. More specifically, we have the element, which lets you indicate which words should appear in the index (and other cool stuff). Of course, someone's got to go through the text indicating what should and shouldn't be in the index, but we do have a defined way of doing it that avoids the problems you speak about. > cross referencing teh indvidual index entries would also make > for amore usefull index, as opposed to a simple word amd it > apperance type of list. We can do that too! > this is why i dislike online/electronic documentation, unless > it is in a wais accessable fromat, now thats indexing.. at work. Don't know about a WAIS index, although it should be possible. . . > > For emoticons, look for in the SGML source. It was one > > of the things I noted when I was going through it. I haven't decided yet > > whether to remove them, or use entities: > > coming from my corner of teh world, i think that they are a > waste of effort, and dangerious. not everybody 'understands' or > pareciactes teh value of thes scratches and prush strokes. may > nisunderstands can be easily avioded by l;eaving thse silly > tings out. I tend to agree, but figured that this would be a very small, but very controversial change to make to the Handbook, so I left them in. The new set of handbooks will have a style guide that probably either says "Don't do them" or "Do them like this, so we can pull them out automatically if necessary". > smiles are ok fr thse still in grade school learning who to > read and write, tehy have littel place in a referenntial text. > des it really matter of teh scsi card has a smily tacked on to > its config stream ? I agree. If you haven't already, subscribe to alt.folklore.urban. They take exactly that attitude towards them in there. [format] > > I think I've grokked the solution to the main problem you've been having > > (which I'll go through in a private message). If it works for you, I'll > > commit it. > > ummm, why change sometint that most peple are familiar with and > works so well, fro at least this sometimes very slow user. It won't (as such). The idea is that the content will contain some additional hints so that the formatting stuff can make more intelligent decisions about how to format it. This *will not* include abusing markup to try and get a particular format effect. I hope that answers everything. As ever, if you (or anyone else) has questions, please post 'em. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 16 3:21:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.tepucom.nl (mail.tepucom.nl [195.81.12.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19EE71536E for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:21:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from theo@tepucom.nl) Received: from kantoor-1.tepucom.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.tepucom.nl (8.8.5/SCO5) with SMTP id MAA07109 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:18:36 +0200 (CETDST) Received: by kantoor-1.tepucom.nl with Microsoft Mail id <01BE87F6.F149C200@kantoor-1.tepucom.nl>; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:50:29 +-200 Message-ID: <01BE87F6.F149C200@kantoor-1.tepucom.nl> From: "Theo Purmer (Tepucom)" To: "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: links to disk images Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:50:27 +-200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there used to be links to the disk image (boot.flp) on the website but now as it changed to two disks the link to the images is gone. And i liked it so much cuz i didnt had to look arount snif snif ;( thanks theo purmer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 16 10:33:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sphinks.txnet.com (sphinks.txnet.com [212.1.98.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9801589D for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:32:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aag@avertus.txnet.com) Received: from avertus.txnet.com (tx4.txnet.com [212.1.98.41]) by sphinks.txnet.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA16865 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:30:32 +0300 (EEST) Received: from avertus.txnet.com [194.44.239.32] by avertus.txnet.com [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.6.rA.b1.32-R) for ; Fri, 16 Apr 99 19:29:30 +0300 Message-ID: <36EE96D5.AD03C8A6@avertus.txnet.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 19:37:25 +0200 From: "Olexandr G." X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! Can you send me Documentation "Tutorial" & "Hand book" in off-line (e-mail). Do you know e-mail FreeBSD.org with Russian support. Olexandr. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 16 19:39:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ontario.mooseriver.com (ontario.mooseriver.com [208.138.31.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210AA14DBD for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:39:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch@ontario.mooseriver.com) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by ontario.mooseriver.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA52958; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:36:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:36:39 -0700 From: Josef Grosch To: "Olexandr G." Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: (no subject) Message-ID: <19990416193638.A52905@ontario.mooseriver.com> Reply-To: jgrosch@MooseRiver.com References: <36EE96D5.AD03C8A6@avertus.txnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <36EE96D5.AD03C8A6@avertus.txnet.com>; from Olexandr G. on Tue, Mar 16, 1999 at 07:37:25PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 16, 1999 at 07:37:25PM +0200, Olexandr G. wrote: > Hi! > Can you send me Documentation "Tutorial" & "Hand book" in off-line > (e-mail). > Do you know e-mail FreeBSD.org with Russian support. Try looking in /usr/share/doc Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 3.1 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 17 1:42:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80DE5150FD for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 01:42:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id BAA28958; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 01:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684DA14C84 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 01:36:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip69.houston3.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.12.169.69]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA7B37068 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 04:33:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA05454; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 03:34:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Message-Id: <199904170834.DAA05454@holly.dyndns.org> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 03:34:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Costello Reply-To: chris@calldei.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11182: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml amazingly out of date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11182 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml amazingly out of date >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Apr 17 01:40:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chris Costello >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: no >Environment: not applicable >Description: Tons of missing data, out-of-date data, and some bad sgml in this file. >How-To-Repeat: Read the kernel config section of the handbook! >Fix: The udiff is almost 300 lines long, so I've made it availible at http://www.calldei.com/~chris/kernelconfig.diffs.gz >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 17 2:32:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AEA714D13 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 02:32:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id CAA30352; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 02:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CDAA14C07 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 02:28:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip69.houston3.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.12.169.69]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8AEE37068 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 05:25:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA08611; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 04:26:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Message-Id: <199904170926.EAA08611@holly.dyndns.org> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 04:26:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Costello Reply-To: chris@calldei.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11184: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml out of date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11184 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml out of date >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Apr 17 02:30:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chris Costello >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: no >Environment: Not applicable. >Description: Bad links to mirror sites, small typo. >How-To-Repeat: Read the handbook. >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.11 diff -u -r1.11 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 1999/03/08 22:04:38 1.11 +++ chapter.sgml 1999/04/17 09:14:53 @@ -834,7 +834,7 @@ FREEBSD-SMALL - This list discusses topics related to unsually small and + This list discusses topics related to unusually small and embedded FreeBSD installations. This is a technical mailing list for which strictly technical content is expected. @@ -1048,7 +1048,7 @@ http://www.br2.freebsd.org/www.freebsd.org/ — Brazil/2. + URL="http://www2.br.freebsd.org/www.freebsd.org/">http://www2.br.freebsd.org/www.freebsd.org/ — Brazil/2. @@ -1133,11 +1133,6 @@ http://www.lv.freebsd.org/ — Latvia. - - - - http://rama.asiapac.net/freebsd/ — Malaysia. @@ -1253,7 +1248,7 @@ http://www2.freebsd.org/ — USA/Texas. + URL="http://www2.freebsd.org/">http://www2.freebsd.org/ — USA/Texas. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 17 2:40:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E144F150FF for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 02:40:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by phk.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18910 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:37:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA09429 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:37:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: handbook in pdf, what texmf.cnf values ? From: Poul-Henning Kamp Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:37:40 +0200 Message-ID: <9427.924341860@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anybody have a texmf.cnf which will format the handbook into PDF format ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 17 5:32:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC2C14D5F for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 05:32:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id FAA41365; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 05:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.yk.rim.or.jp (mail.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E0914D5F for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 05:27:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp) Received: from localhost (ppp920.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.185.171]) by mail.yk.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id VAA21206 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:25:15 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <19990417212433T.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:24:33 +0900 From: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org Reply-To: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11185: ntpq.8 has a typo ("". should be ".") Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11185 >Category: docs >Synopsis: ntpq.8 has a typo ("". should be ".") >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Apr 17 05:30:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kazuo Horikawa >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: jpman project >Environment: src/usr.sbin/xntpd/doc/ntpq.8 .\" $Id: ntpq.8,v 1.5 1998/02/19 08:05:38 charnier Exp $ >Description: `$ man 8 ntpq' shows followings. There are description about , "x", and etc. The character in the left margin indicates the fate of this peer in the clock selection process. The codes mean: discarded due to high stratum and/or failed sanity checks; "x" designated falsticker by the intersection algorithm; "". culled from the end of the candidate list; "-" discarded by the clustering algorithm; "+" included in the final selection set; "#" selected for syn- chronization but distance exceeds maximum; "*" selected for syn- chronization; and "o" selected for synchronization, pps signal in use. I think that `"".' should be `"."'. >How-To-Repeat: $ man 8 ntpq >Fix: When we use single punctuation charater as argument for mdoc macros, the punctuation character should be escaped by `\&'. --- ntpq.8.orig Sat Apr 17 21:05:33 1999 +++ ntpq.8 Sat Apr 17 21:12:00 1999 @@ -421,7 +421,7 @@ .Qq x designated falsticker by the intersection algorithm; -.Qq . +.Qq \&. culled from the end of the candidate list; .Qq - >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 17 8:22:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB383153A8 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:22:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id IAA99191; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E2514C22 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:17:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip69.houston3.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.12.169.69]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE1737070 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:15:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA09442; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:15:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Message-Id: <199904171515.KAA09442@holly.dyndns.org> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:15:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Costello Reply-To: chris@calldei.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11190: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/introduction/chapter.sgml out of date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11190 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/introduction/chapter.sgml out of date >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Apr 17 08:20:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chris Costello >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: no >Environment: Not applicable. >Description: Various out of date data -- says FreeBSD is 4.4BSD-Lite instead of Lite2, GPL acronyms are incorrect, 3.1 is already released so I changed it to ``3.2 will be released in mid May'' >How-To-Repeat: Read the handbook ... >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en/handbook/introduction/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.10 diff -u -r1.10 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 1999/03/08 22:04:42 1.10 +++ chapter.sgml 1999/04/17 14:23:56 @@ -7,7 +7,7 @@ Introduction - FreeBSD is a 4.4BSD-Lite based operating system for Intel architecture + FreeBSD is a 4.4BSD-Lite2 based operating system for Intel architecture (x86) based PCs. For an overview of FreeBSD, see FreeBSD in a nutshell. For a history of the project, read a brief history of FreeBSD. @@ -123,7 +123,7 @@ - FreeBSD is based on the 4.4BSD-Lite release from Computer Systems + FreeBSD is based on the 4.4BSD-Lite2 release from Computer Systems Research Group (CSRG) at the University of California at Berkeley, and carries on the distinguished tradition of BSD systems development. In addition to the fine work provided by CSRG, the FreeBSD Project has put @@ -332,8 +332,8 @@ the 2.2 branch, 2.2.8, appeared in November, 1998. The tree branched again on Jan 20, 1999. This led to 4.0-current - and a 3.x-stable branch, from which 3.1 will be released on February - 15th, 1999. + and a 3.x-stable branch, from which 3.2 will be released in mid May. + Long term development projects will continue to take place in the 4.0-current branch and SNAPshot releases of 4.0 on CDROM (and, of @@ -356,8 +356,8 @@ most fundamental goals of Free Software and one that we enthusiastically support. - That code in our source tree which falls under the GNU Public - License (GPL) or GNU Library Public License (GLPL) comes with slightly + That code in our source tree which falls under the GNU General Public + License (GPL) or Library General Public License (LGPL) comes with slightly more strings attached, though at least on the side of enforced access rather than the usual opposite. Due to the additional complexities that can evolve in the commercial use of GPL software, we do, however, @@ -503,7 +503,7 @@ About the Current Release - FreeBSD is a freely available, full source 4.4BSD-Lite based release + FreeBSD is a freely available, full source 4.4BSD-Lite2 based release for Intel i386/i486/Pentium/PentiumPro/Pentium II (or compatible) based PC's. It is based primarily on software from U.C. Berkeley's CSRG group, with some enhancements from NetBSD, OpenBSD, 386BSD, and the Free >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 17 9:54:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C254B15025; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 09:54:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id JAA06717; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 09:51:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 09:51:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904171651.JAA06717@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, wosch@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11133: FreeBSD users group for Adelaide, South Australia - SAFUG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: FreeBSD users group for Adelaide, South Australia - SAFUG State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: wosch State-Changed-When: Sat Apr 17 09:51:37 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in rev 1.126 www/en/support.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 17 10:28:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from reliam.teaser.fr (reliam.teaser.fr [194.51.80.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B094714C84 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:28:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsouch@teaser.fr) Received: from teaser.fr (ppp1087-ft.teaser.fr [194.206.156.40]) by reliam.teaser.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA03260; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 19:25:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from nsouch@localhost) by teaser.fr (8.9.2/8.9.1) id TAA00965; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 19:24:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nsouch) Message-ID: <19990417192419.06218@breizh.teaser.fr> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 19:24:19 +0200 From: Nicolas Souchu To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10737 References: <19990411152407.62967@breizh.teaser.fr> <5226.923875207@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: <5226.923875207@axl.noc.iafrica.com>; from Sheldon Hearn on Mon, Apr 12, 1999 at 02:00:07AM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD breizh 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Apr 12, 1999 at 02:00:07AM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > >On Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:24:07 +0200, Nicolas Souchu wrote: > >> Fixed and commited. > >Thanks. > >> What shall I do to close the pr? > >Get onto freefall and do ``edit-pr 10737''. Edit the ``State:'' field, >changing it to closed. Save and close. > >I've done it for you this time. :-) Thanks! > >Ciao, >Sheldon. > -- nsouch@teaser.fr / nsouch@freebsd.org FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 17 12:32:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tok.qiv.com (tok.qiv.com [205.238.142.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768E014C8F; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 12:32:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdn@acp.qiv.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tok.qiv.com (MailHost/Current) with UUCP id OAA60452; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:30:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jdn@localhost) by acp.qiv.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA00411; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:14:08 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jdn@acp.qiv.com) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:14:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Jay Nelson To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: handbook in pdf, what texmf.cnf values ? In-Reply-To: <9427.924341860@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >Does anybody have a texmf.cnf which will format the handbook into >PDF format ? This works for me, though it's larger than necessary. You'll have to rebuild your format file. -- Jay --- texmf.cnf.dist Fri Nov 13 02:10:32 1998 +++ texmf.cnf Sat Apr 17 12:04:42 1999 @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ -% original texmf.cnf -- runtime path configuration file for kpathsea. +% texmf.cnf -- runtime path configuration file for kpathsea. % (If you change or delete `original' on the previous line, the % distribution won't install its version over yours.) % Public domain. @@ -363,8 +363,8 @@ main_memory.cont-nl = 1100000 main_memory.cont-de = 1100000 main_memory = 263000 % words of inimemory available; also applies to inimf&mp -extra_mem_top = 0 % extra high memory for chars, tokens, etc. -extra_mem_bot = 0 % extra low memory for boxes, glue, breakpoints, etc. +extra_mem_top = 200000 % extra high memory for chars, tokens, etc. +extra_mem_bot = 300000 % extra low memory for boxes, glue, breakpoints, etc. % Words of font info for TeX (total size of all TFM files, approximately). font_mem_size = 200000 @@ -374,11 +374,11 @@ % Extra space for the hash table of control sequences (which allows 10K % names as distributed). -hash_extra.context = 15000 -hash_extra.cont-en = 15000 -hash_extra.cont-nl = 15000 -hash_extra.cont-de = 15000 -hash_extra = 0 +hash_extra.context = 25000 +hash_extra.cont-en = 25000 +hash_extra.cont-nl = 25000 +hash_extra.cont-de = 25000 +hash_extra = 50000 % Max number of characters in all strings, including all error messages, % help texts, font names, control sequences. These values apply to TeX and MP. @@ -386,24 +386,24 @@ pool_size.cont-en = 500000 pool_size.cont-nl = 500000 pool_size.cont-de = 500000 -pool_size = 125000 +pool_size = 650000 % Minimum pool space after TeX/MP's own strings; must be at least % 25000 less than pool_size, but doesn't need to be nearly that large. string_vacancies.context = 45000 string_vacancies.cont-en = 45000 string_vacancies.cont-nl = 45000 string_vacancies.cont-de = 45000 -string_vacancies = 25000 -max_strings.context = 55000 -max_strings.cont-en = 55000 +string_vacancies = 45000 +max_strings.context = 60000 +max_strings.cont-en = 60000 max_strings.cont-nl = 55000 max_strings.cont-de = 55000 -max_strings = 15000 % max number of strings -pool_free.context = 47500 -pool_free.cont-en = 47500 +max_strings = 66000 % max number of strings +pool_free.context = 87500 +pool_free.cont-en = 87500 pool_free.cont-nl = 47500 pool_free.cont-de = 47500 -pool_free = 5000 % min pool space left after loading .fmt +pool_free = 8000 % min pool space left after loading .fmt % Hyphenation trie. As distributed, the maximum is 65535; this should % work unless `unsigned short' is not supported or is smaller than 16 @@ -441,12 +441,12 @@ save_size.cont-en = 5000 save_size.cont-nl = 5000 save_size.cont-de = 5000 -save_size = 4000 % for saving values outside current group +save_size = 6000 % for saving values outside current group stack_size.context = 1500 stack_size.cont-en = 1500 stack_size.cont-nl = 1500 stack_size.cont-de = 1500 -stack_size = 300 % simultaneous input sources +stack_size = 500 % simultaneous input sources % These are Omega-specific. ocp_buf_size = 20000 % character buffers for ocp filters. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 18 3:21: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from studentmail.newcastle.edu.au (yakamoto.newcastle.edu.au [134.148.4.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A4F14C11 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 03:20:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stewart.heckenberg@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au) Received: from default ([134.148.96.116]) by yakamoto.newcastle.edu.au (PMDF V5.2-32 #35876) with SMTP id <0FAD00IRARASO1@yakamoto.newcastle.edu.au> for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:18:30 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:19:12 +1000 From: Stewart Heckenberg Subject: Link error X-Sender: c9707010@studentmailbox.newcastle.edu.au To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <3.0.5.32.19990418201912.007ce2a0@studentmailbox.newcastle.edu.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On the main page, the link "Software/Getting FreeBSD" points to the installation page of the handbook instead of to the page list where you can get FreeBSD :) I also noticed that an article you have regarding Linux compatability ask the reader to refer to a section that is no longer about that topic, instead Linux compatibility was a couple of sections down the handbook list. I know you can't keep all the documentation up to date, but perhaps changing the layout of the handbook might have made things worse if sections were added/removed/relocated. Also, I thought the prevous version of the Handbook had a nicer layout - why the change? Cheers, Stewart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 18 4:51:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE8314D8B for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 04:51:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.56.218]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA1D23; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 13:49:27 +0200 Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org (abaddon@daemon [192.168.0.1]) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03058; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 13:49:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <01BE87F6.F149C200@kantoor-1.tepucom.nl> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 13:49:44 +0200 (CEST) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: "Theo Purmer (Tepucom)" Subject: RE: links to disk images Cc: "freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 16-Apr-99 Theo Purmer (Tepucom) wrote: > Hi > > there used to be links to the disk image (boot.flp) on > the website but now as it changed to two disks > the link to the images is gone. > > And i liked it so much cuz i didnt had to look arount > snif snif ;( If ye need the disks they are at: ftp.nl.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/3.1-RELEASE/floppies and there are two now, mfsroot.flp and kern.flp HTH, --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmodai(at)wxs.nl The FreeBSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist *BSD: Powered by Knowledge & Know-how To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 18 11:45:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCC415518 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 11:45:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id UAA19761; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:43:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id TAA54920; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 19:08:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w) Message-ID: <19990418190814.07771@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 19:08:14 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Doc. Proj. questions? Post 'em to the list References: <19990415231116.B2444@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19990415231116.B2444@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Thu, Apr 15, 1999 at 11:11:16PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-04-15 23:11:16 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > I'm finding that an increasing number of questions relating to the > Doc. Proj. are being sent to me directly, rather than being sent to the > -doc list. > > I've got no objection to receiving questions privately, and will do my > best to answer them. However, please think about sending them via the > -doc list instead. That way the question (and any responses) will make > it in to the archives, so that hopefully they can help the next person > to come along. > > I read -doc religiously, and do my best to answer everything that comes > up here as soon as I can. If you think that I've missed something, feel > free to point it out to me in private e-mail, but do let me know that I > can cc: the reply back to -doc if necessary. I could not say it better. The same applies to me. Wolfram -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 18 14:44: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3DA14C44; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:43:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id WAA34601; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:02:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:02:54 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: handbook in pdf, what texmf.cnf values ? Message-ID: <19990418220254.A34322@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <9427.924341860@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <9427.924341860@critter.freebsd.dk>; from Poul-Henning Kamp on Sat, Apr 17, 1999 at 11:37:40AM +0200 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Apr 17, 1999 at 11:37:40AM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > Does anybody have a texmf.cnf which will format the handbook into > PDF format ? % cat /usr/ports/print/jadetex/pkg/MESSAGE JadeTeX uses quite a lot of TeX's resources. You may find it necessary to increase the size of some of TeX's resource pools by editing the file /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf with any text editor. For example, to typeset the FreeBSD Handbook with JadeTeX, change the following settings to the listed values: hash_extra = 60000 pool_size = 1000000 max_strings = 70000 save_size = 10000 If you change /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf, delete the word "original" on line 1 of the file. This will prevent future installations of TeX from overwriting changes you've made. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 18 15:53:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE79B14F2B; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:53:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id AAA24361; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:50:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id AAA56265; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:47:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-ID: <19990419004755.56652@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:47:55 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Nik Clayton Cc: nik@FreeBSD.ORG, wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/6508: sgmlfmt does not expand relative URLs References: <199904092125.OAA32384@freefall.freebsd.org> <19990411194126.48734@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990412221539.A62203@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19990412221539.A62203@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Mon, Apr 12, 1999 at 10:15:39PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-04-12 22:15:39 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 07:41:26PM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > On 1999-04-09 14:25:14 -0700, nik@FreeBSD.org wrote: > > > Synopsis: sgmlfmt does not expand relative URLs > > > > > > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > > > State-Changed-By: nik > > > State-Changed-When: Fri Apr 9 14:24:15 PDT 1999 > > > State-Changed-Why: > > > You can't use relative URLs in the Handbook / FAQ, because you don't > > > know where it's going to be installed relative to the rest of the > > > website (or even *if* it's going to be installed with the rest of > > > the website). > > > > ??? > > > > The location of the handbook (/handbook/) and the FAQ (/FAQ/) > > is well known on the web site. The same is true for ports > > projects, releases etc. > > True, but; > > > Our web mirrors *require* relative paths. Even a 155Mbit/s > > Internet link is easy to overload. > > Only if you assume that everything will > > a) be mirroring the website and the handbook, Yes, our mirrors should be complete. > b) have a mirror of the form http://www.foo.bar/, and not > http://www.foo.bar/mirrors/FreeBSD/ (for example). both should work, without modification, if you mirror the pages or build the pages yourself from the sources. http://www.foo.bar/ http://www.foo.bar/mirrors/FreeBSD/ > I think the correct solution is to enforce absolute paths in the website, > coupled with the &base; entity (which we already do). The FAQ, Handbook, > and tutorials need to be treated differently (because they are independent > of the website, and can be installed without the website). I fail to see why absolute paths in the website are better than relative links. Most FreeBSD mirrors update their pages with cvsup. Only 2 or 3 build the mirror from the sources. > For those we need a similar entity (but possibly called something like > &FreeBSDURL;, because &base; is too vague) that points to wherever they > want references to the website to resolve to. > > For most people, this would probably be > > > > For someone like yourself, who probably has a local copy of the website > permanently installed somewhere, and a webserver running, you could > have > > > > or even > > > > Each URL that refers to the site in the Handbook and FAQ then looks > something like; > > the search pages > > Does that make sense? Looks good. > I can submit this as a separate PR, if you want. Ok. -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 19 0:21: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B8F14F9E; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:21:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id AAA89016; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:18:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:18:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904190718.AAA89016@freefall.freebsd.org> To: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org, jkoshy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11185: ntpq.8 has a typo ("". should be ".") Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: ntpq.8 has a typo ("". should be ".") State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 19 00:17:28 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in rev 1.6 of "src/usr.sbin/xntpd/doc/ntpq.8", thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 19 3: 3:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sphinks.txnet.com (sphinks.txnet.com [212.1.98.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213DF14C57 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 03:03:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aag@avertus.txnet.com) Received: from avertus.txnet.com (tx2.txnet.com [212.1.98.39]) by sphinks.txnet.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA19396 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:00:41 +0300 (EEST) Received: from avertus.txnet.com [194.44.239.32] by avertus.txnet.com [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.6.rA.b1.32-R) for ; Mon, 19 Apr 99 12:53:49 +0300 Message-ID: <36F22F20.646A8CEE@avertus.txnet.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 13:04:00 +0200 From: "Olexandr G." X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Documentation on FreeBSD References: <36EE96D5.AD03C8A6@avertus.txnet.com> <19990416193638.A52905@ontario.mooseriver.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! Tell me please where I can receive documentation on FreeBSD 2.2.7 in Russian language? Olexander. 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Sincerely, TangLong /* here is my CV */ CURRICULUM VITAE PERSONAL DETAILS Name in Full: Tang Long (Last Name) (First Name) Sex: Male Date of Birth: 26 Apr 1976 Marital Status: Single Nationality: Chinese Mailing Address: Selannekatu 31 As 2 Mikkeli 50100 Finland Permanent Address: No.59 Nanheng East Street Xuanwu District Beijing P.R China 100052 E-mail Address: dragon_town@hotmail.com EDUCATION 1994- Major: Computer Beijing Polytechnic University 1992-1994 Beijing 14th school, China PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE Time: Project: Development Tools: Environment: 99.3-now TMN Network Visual Temip 3.1 Sun Unix Management Motif C++ 98.8-98.10 Video CD Frame Visual C++ 5.0 Windows NT Capture system MCI Toolkits 96.9-97.11 University Classes Foxpro 2.5 Windows 95 Management System 95.7-95.9 Multimedia educational Authoware3.0 Windows 95 software IN UNIVERSITY 1) Worked as the monitor to organise my class 2) Worked as the sponsor in the Student Union of Beijing Polytechnic University and organised several successful activities 3) Took part in and winned in the competition of chairman of departmant student Union in the third year 4) Was Selected to join in the program development of University Classes Management System INTERESTS Reading pop music PC game Sports: basketball, football Language: CHINESE (native) ENGLISH (excellent) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 19 4:52:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF3414DC9 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 04:52:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id EAA16980; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 04:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F1214C16 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 04:45:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip124.houston2.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.11.201.124]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795183708A for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:43:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA42100; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:43:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Message-Id: <199904191143.GAA42100@holly.dyndns.org> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:43:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Costello Reply-To: chris@calldei.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11215: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/disks/chapter.sgml out of date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11215 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [Patch] doc/en/handbook/disks/chapter.sgml out of date >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Apr 19 04:50:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chris Costello >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: never! >Environment: Not applicable. >Description: The disks section uses ``sd'' device names as opposed to ``da.'' It also uses the name ``Jazz'' where ``Jaz'' should be used. >How-To-Repeat: Read the handbook. >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en/handbook/disks/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 1999/03/08 22:04:38 1.5 +++ chapter.sgml 1999/04/19 11:39:18 @@ -18,9 +18,9 @@ Login as user root. After you've installed the drive, inspect /var/run/dmesg.boot to ensure the new disk was found. Continuing with our example, the newly added drive will - be sd1 and we want to mount it on + be da1 and we want to mount it on /1. (if you are adding an IDE drive substitute - wd for sd) + wd for da) Because FreeBSD runs on IBM-PC compatible computers, it must take into account the PC BIOS partitions. These are different from the traditional @@ -35,10 +35,10 @@ fdisk utility of the other operating system. In the slice case the drive will be added as - /dev/sd1s1e. This is read as: SCSI disk, unit number + /dev/da1s1e. This is read as: SCSI disk, unit number 1 (second SCSI disk), slice 1 (PC BIOS partition 1), and e BSD partition. In the dedicated case, the drive - will be added simply as /dev/sd1e. + will be added simply as /dev/da1e. Using sysinstall @@ -51,11 +51,11 @@ Configuration Menu, scroll down and select the Partition item. Next you should be presented with a list of hard drives installed in your system. If you do not see - sd1 listed, you need to recheck your physical + da1 listed, you need to recheck your physical installation and dmesg output in the file /var/run/dmesg.boot. - Select sd1 to enter the FDISK Partition + Select da1 to enter the FDISK Partition Editor. Choose A to use the entire disk for FreeBSD. When asked if you want to remain cooperative with any future possible operating systems, answer @@ -114,21 +114,21 @@ “appropriate” any partition it finds which it doesn't understand. - &prompt.root; dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rsd1 bs=1k count=1 -&prompt.root; disklabel -Brw sd1 auto -&prompt.root; disklabel -e sd1 # create the `e' partition -&prompt.root; newfs -d0 /dev/rsd1e + &prompt.root; dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rda1 bs=1k count=1 +&prompt.root; disklabel -Brw da1 auto +&prompt.root; disklabel -e da1 # create the `e' partition +&prompt.root; newfs -d0 /dev/rda1e &prompt.root; mkdir -p /1 -&prompt.root; vi /etc/fstab # add an entry for /dev/sd1e +&prompt.root; vi /etc/fstab # add an entry for /dev/da1e &prompt.root; mount /1 An alternate method is: - &prompt.root; dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rsd1 count=2 -&prompt.root; disklabel /dev/rsd1 | disklabel -BrR sd1 /dev/stdin -&prompt.root; newfs /dev/rsd1e + &prompt.root; dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rda1 count=2 +&prompt.root; disklabel /dev/rda1 | disklabel -BrR da1 /dev/stdin +&prompt.root; newfs /dev/rda1e &prompt.root; mkdir -p /1 -&prompt.root; vi /etc/fstab # add an entry for /dev/sd1e +&prompt.root; vi /etc/fstab # add an entry for /dev/da1e &prompt.root; mount /1 @@ -143,7 +143,7 @@ - * Jazz Drives + * Jaz Drives >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 19 6: 6:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from icc.cgu.chel.su (gw.cgu.chel.su [195.54.14.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE1B14CD1 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:05:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@mail.cgu.chel.su) Received: from mail.cgu.chel.su (andy@mail.cgu.chel.su [195.54.14.68]) by icc.cgu.chel.su (8.9.2/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA81662; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:02:23 +0600 (ESS) Received: (from andy@localhost) by mail.cgu.chel.su (8.8.7/8.8.6) id TAA15013; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:02:23 +0600 (ESS) From: Andrey Zakhvatov Message-Id: <199904191302.TAA15013@mail.cgu.chel.su> Subject: Re: Documentation on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <36F22F20.646A8CEE@avertus.txnet.com> from "Olexandr G." at "Mar 19, 99 01:04:00 pm" To: aag@avertus.txnet.com (Olexandr G.) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:02:23 +0600 (ESS) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! > Tell me please where I can receive documentation on FreeBSD 2.2.7 in > Russian language? Try to look at http://surw.chel.su/~andy/index.html Andy. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 19 9:41: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law-f30.hotmail.com [209.185.131.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B996214FCD for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:39:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from heiki_2@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 19597 invoked by uid 0); 19 Apr 1999 16:36:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990419163639.19596.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 212.30.194.1 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:36:38 PDT X-Originating-IP: [212.30.194.1] From: "»® Heiki ®«" To: Freebsd-doc@Freebsd.org Subject: Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:36:38 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Pleas send me Linux ore FreeBSD 4 Windows Heiki_2@Hotmail.com Ore sgk@centrm.is ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 19 11: 2:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75CE115654 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:02:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id LAA02106 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:00:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904191800.LAA02106@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1999/02/14] docs/10088 doc Documentation search results 1 problem total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1998/07/29] docs/7437 doc IPFW doco unclear about in/out o [1999/01/22] docs/9618 doc many typos in groff_mm(7) a [1999/02/17] docs/10135 doc Change to Documention Regarding Upgrades o [1999/04/17] docs/11182 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/kernelconfig/chap 4 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [1998/01/15] docs/5487 doc Adding documentation for scsi(8) usage wi o [1998/04/14] docs/6295 doc Reference to nonexistent file in Device D o [1998/04/15] docs/6307 doc sgmlfmt not `make -jN' ready o [1998/05/18] docs/6681 doc docu. addition a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated a [1998/08/31] docs/7791 doc ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ip o [1998/09/13] docs/7914 doc no elf(5) manpage o [1998/10/25] docs/8445 doc Update of "Installing Mathematica on Free a [1998/10/27] docs/8464 doc Missing include file wh o [1998/11/02] docs/8547 doc Various updates to authors.sgml, printing o [1998/11/10] docs/8640 doc proposed change of 4.5 o [1998/11/19] docs/8765 doc some suggested text for describing passwo o [1998/11/24] docs/8858 doc man page for accept() is flawed o [1998/12/25] docs/9193 doc Incorrect release date for FreeBSD 2.0 in o [1999/01/06] docs/9352 doc wrong macro names in groff_[ms|mm|mmse].7 o [1999/01/12] docs/9455 doc cvsup and ftp server in Czech Republic o [1999/01/24] docs/9658 doc tar(1) SYNOPSIS refinement o [1999/01/26] docs/9707 doc New entry for FAQ o [1999/01/29] docs/9773 doc Handbook 4.7.1.4. "Testing the port" is i o [1999/01/31] docs/9837 doc fix to doc/handbook/porting.sgml o [1999/02/01] docs/9854 doc undocumented ctype functions break stuff o [1999/02/06] docs/9940 doc mt.1 typo (right paren missing, and etc.) o [1999/02/08] docs/9960 doc man page for route doesn't mention defaul o [1999/02/10] docs/10017 doc Added a site and bug fix o [1999/02/11] docs/10038 doc Added a site and bug fix (part two) o [1999/02/14] docs/10080 doc Adding link to Daemon BSD case badges o [1999/02/14] docs/10082 doc Adding Pine Internet to Consultants page o [1999/02/14] docs/10083 doc Adding OpenWorld to Consulting services o [1999/02/14] docs/10084 doc new FreeBSD user group in Yogyakarta City o [1999/02/14] docs/10085 doc NIS Setup Tutorial o [1999/02/14] docs/10098 doc Lack of overall guide for NIS setup o [1999/02/15] docs/10108 doc Addition to fstab.5 o [1999/02/18] docs/10146 doc Release Notes and LINT for 3.1 include ha o [1999/02/21] docs/10180 doc Another mirror site not listed... o [1999/02/21] docs/10182 doc http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?p o [1999/02/25] docs/10239 doc FreeBSD Mall o [1999/02/25] docs/10240 doc We need a script which check if our web m o [1999/02/25] docs/10242 doc Windsor Unix Users Group o [1999/02/25] docs/10256 doc handbook on cvsup... o [1999/03/01] docs/10331 doc pccardd(8) claims FreeBSD does not suppor o [1999/03/03] docs/10378 doc option -s missing in lptcontrol.8 o [1999/03/04] docs/10388 doc Obsolete information in Handbook o [1999/03/05] docs/10403 doc CDE is no longer sold by Xi Graphics. o [1999/03/05] docs/10408 doc [quasi-patch] Grammar nitpicks in Handboo o [1999/03/06] docs/10451 doc EDESTADDRREQ returnable by writev() but n o [1999/03/07] docs/10472 doc Mailing list for discussion of Xircom dri o [1999/03/07] docs/10474 doc A command line in a man document is incom o [1999/03/08] docs/10488 doc Error in entry for 02/27 in calendar.hist o [1999/03/08] docs/10494 doc arp(4) SYNOPSIS non typical expression o [1999/03/08] docs/10495 doc lo(4) SYNOPSIS non typical expression o [1999/03/08] docs/10500 doc spell error o [1999/03/09] docs/10512 doc ENOBUFS returnable from writev(2) but not o [1999/03/09] docs/10517 doc Missing manpage for /usr/bin/gensetdefs ( o [1999/03/16] docs/10624 doc typos/innacuracies in wfd(4) man page o [1999/03/18] docs/10659 doc Many syscall man pages have an IMPLEMENTA o [1999/03/18] docs/10660 doc User Group not listed o [1999/03/18] docs/10664 doc Notes on 2.2.8 -> 3.1 migration o [1999/03/19] docs/10684 doc Update doc: www/en/docproj/translations.s o [1999/03/21] docs/10704 doc strange sentence in doc/handbook/ctm.sgml a [1999/03/21] docs/10708 doc meteor.4 man page documentation problem. o [1999/03/23] docs/10762 doc geocrawler.com mailing list archives o [1999/03/24] docs/10771 doc [PATCH] ftpd manpage missing -A in synops o [1999/03/25] docs/10794 doc [Patch] typo in da(4) man page o [1999/03/26] docs/10799 doc [Patch] where.sgml o [1999/03/26] docs/10808 doc Fix bad internal links on www.freebsd.org o [1999/03/27] docs/10819 doc Documentation add o [1999/03/28] docs/10840 doc [PATCH] Add pcic double-loading bug fix t o [1999/03/28] docs/10841 doc typos in man page screen.4 (c -> n) o [1999/03/28] docs/10847 doc lpbb.4's PostScript output format is brok o [1999/03/29] docs/10850 doc submitting a documentation change for sed o [1999/03/30] docs/10877 doc manpage for objformat incorrectly mention o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/04/07] docs/11011 doc missing man page for arc4 related functio o [1999/04/07] docs/11015 doc handbook/mirrors-ftp.html missing NZ serv o [1999/04/08] docs/11028 doc new text for FAQ to explain branches o [1999/04/11] docs/11087 doc Portland FreeBSD users group o [1999/04/11] docs/11088 doc PHX Users Group o [1999/04/11] docs/11089 doc freebsd user group, sydney o [1999/04/11] docs/11090 doc User's group in Melbourne Australia o [1999/04/12] docs/11098 doc FAQ Update: Database systems for FreeBSD o [1999/04/12] docs/11102 doc [Patch] Handbook: Minor spelling correcti o [1999/04/12] docs/11105 doc My address in "submitters" section of han o [1999/04/12] docs/11107 doc [Patch] Typo in www/en/docproj/submitting o [1999/04/15] docs/11150 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/security/chapters o [1999/04/15] docs/11153 doc [Patch] en/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml is o [1999/04/17] docs/11184 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/eresources/chapte o [1999/04/17] docs/11190 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/introduction/chap o [1999/04/19] docs/11215 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/disks/chapter.sgm 88 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 19 13:22:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A0014F4A for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:22:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA16444; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id CC7FA14BED; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990419202138.CC7FA14BED@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:21:38 -0700 (PDT) From: brett@uswest.net To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/11223: Man page for listen (2) has incorrect info for somaxconn Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11223 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Man page for listen (2) has incorrect info for somaxconn >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Apr 19 13:20:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Brett Rabe >Release: 3.1-STABLE >Organization: U S WEST >Environment: FreeBSD tahiti.oss.uswest.net 3.1-STABLE FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE #0: Thu Apr 8 15:29:43 CDT 1999 root@tahiti3.oss.uswest.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/TAHITI i386 >Description: Man page for listen (2) says that OID is kern.somaxconn. Actual OID is kern.ipc.somaxconn. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 19 13:43:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5D11505E for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:43:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id GAA07181; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 06:41:02 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19990420064058.46070@welearn.com.au> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 06:40:58 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Re: Current unassigned doc problem reports References: <199904191800.LAA02106@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <199904191800.LAA02106@freefall.freebsd.org>; from FreeBSD bugmaster on Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 11:00:13AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 11:00:13AM -0700, FreeBSD bugmaster wrote: > Current FreeBSD problem reports > > o [1999/03/29] docs/10850 doc submitting a documentation change for sed FWIW this new text makes better sense to me. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 19 15:28:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B75515603; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:28:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id PAA26923; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:26:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:26:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904192226.PAA26923@freefall.freebsd.org> To: brett@uswest.net, obrien@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11223: Man page for listen (2) has incorrect info for somaxconn Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Man page for listen (2) has incorrect info for somaxconn State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: obrien State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 19 15:25:24 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: This is a duplication of PR docs/11057, which was fixed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 20 4:12:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7A0151D3 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 04:12:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id EAA64036; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 04:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from icc.surw.chel.su (surw.chel.su [195.54.2.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B11F1510C for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 04:10:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@icc.surw.chel.su) Received: (from andy@localhost) by icc.surw.chel.su (8.9.2/8.8.8) id PAA06894; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:09:18 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from andy) Message-Id: <199904201109.PAA06894@icc.surw.chel.su> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:09:18 +0400 (MSD) From: Andrey Zakhvatov Reply-To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11233: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/preface.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11233 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/preface.sgml >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Apr 20 04:10:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrey Zakhvatov >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: South Ural Railway ICC >Environment: >Description: This is a patch to sync with English 1.35 --- /home/andy/ncvs.ncvs/doc/ru/FAQ/preface.sgml Wed Apr 14 20:00:04 1999 +++ /home/andy/ncvs/doc/ru/FAQ/preface.sgml Tue Apr 20 15:04:58 1999 @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ - + @@ -41,7 +41,7 @@ × ÎÁÛÅÊ .

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      éÓÈÏÄÎÙÊ ËÏÄ, ÐÏÄÐÁÄÁÀÝÉÊ ÐÏÄ ÄÅÊÓÔ×ÉÅ GNU General + Public License (GPL) ÉÌÉ GNU Library General Public License (LGPL), + ÉÍÅÅÔ ÎÅÓËÏÌØËÏ ÂÏÌØÛÅ ÏÇÒÁÎÉÞÅÎÉÊ, ÈÏÔÑ É ÐÒÅÄÓÔÁ×ÌÑÅÔ ÓÏÂÏÊ + ÎÁ×ÑÚÙ×ÁÎÉÅ ÄÏÓÔÕÐÁ Ë ÉÓÈÏÄÎÙÍ ÔÅËÓÔÁÍ, Á ÎÅ ÎÁÏÂÏÒÏÔ, ËÁË ÏÂÙÞÎÏ. éÚ-ÚÁ + ÄÏÐÏÌÎÉÔÅÌØÎÙÈ ÓÌÏÖÎÏÓÔÅÊ, ËÏÔÏÒÙÅ ÍÏÇÕÔ ×ÏÚÎÉËÎÕÔØ × ÓÌÕÞÁÅ + ËÏÍÍÅÒÞÅÓËÏÇÏ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÎÉÑ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÎÏÇÏ ÏÂÅÓÐÅÞÅÎÉÑ GPL, ÍÙ ÓÔÁÒÁÅÍÓÑ, + ÇÄÅ ÔÏÌØËÏ ÜÔÏ ×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏ, ÚÁÍÅÎÉÔØ ÐÏÄÏÂÎÏÅ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÎÏÅ ÏÂÅÓÐÅÞÅÎÉÅ + ÁÎÁÌÏÇÉÞÎÙÍ, ÎÏ ÐÏÄÐÁÄÁÀÝÉÍ ÐÏÄ ÂÏÌÅÅ Ó×ÏÂÏÄÎÕÀ ÌÉÃÅÎÚÉÀ BSD. ðÏÞÅÍÕ ÓÉÓÔÅÍÁ ÎÁÚÙ×ÁÅÔÓÑ ÉÍÅÎÎÏ FreeBSD? @@ -119,7 +119,7 @@ ÒÅÁÌØÎÙÊ ÉÎÔÅÒÅÓ ÔÏÌØËÏ ÄÌÑ ÒÁÚÒÁÂÏÔÞÉËÏ× ÓÉÓÔÅÍÙ É Å£ ÆÁÎÁÔÏ×. ïÂÒÁÔÉÔÅÓØ Ë - + ÄÌÑ ÐÒÏÑÓÎÅÎÉÑ ÄÅÔÁÌÅÊ ÒÁÂÏÔÙ Ó -current.

      åÓÌÉ ×Ù ÎÅ ÓÐÅÃÉÁÌÉÓÔ ÐÏ ÏÐÅÒÁÃÉÏÎÎÙÍ ÓÉÓÔÅÍÁÍ ÉÌÉ ÎÅ × ÓÏÓÔÏÑÎÉÉ @@ -247,10 +247,10 @@ ÍÏÖÅÔ ÄÏÂÁ×ÌÑÔØ ËÏÄ Ë ÄÅÒÅ×Õ ÉÓÈÏÄÎÙÈ ÔÅËÓÔÏ×, ÐÒÉÎÉÍÁÀÔÓÑ ÒÁÚÒÁÂÏÔÞÉËÏ× (core team), ÓÏÓÔÏÑÝÅÊ ÉÚ 15 ÞÅÌÏ×ÅË. ôÁËÖÅ ÓÕÝÅÓÔ×ÕÅÔ - ÇÏÒÁÚÄÏ ÂÏÌØÛÁÑ ÇÒÕÐÐÁ ÉÚ ÂÏÌÅÅ 100 (committers), ËÏÔÏÒÙÅ ÍÏÇÕÔ ÄÅÌÁÔØ ÉÚÍÅÎÅÎÉÑ ÐÒÑÍÏ - × ÄÅÒÅ×Å ÉÓÈÏÄÎÙÈ ÔÅËÓÔÏ× FreeBSD. + ÇÏÒÁÚÄÏ ÂÏÌØÛÁÑ ÇÒÕÐÐÁ ÉÚ ÂÏÌÅÅ 150 + (committers), ËÏÔÏÒÙÅ ÍÏÇÕÔ ÄÅÌÁÔØ ÉÚÍÅÎÅÎÉÑ ÐÒÑÍÏ × ÄÅÒÅ×Å ÉÓÈÏÄÎÙÈ + ÔÅËÓÔÏ× FreeBSD.

      ïÄÎÁËÏ, ÂÏÌØÛÉÎÓÔ×Ï ÎÅÔÒÉ×ÉÁÌØÎÙÈ ÉÚÍÅÎÅÎÉÊ ÛÉÒÏËÏ ÏÂÓÕÖÄÁÅÔÓÑ × , É ÎÅ ÓÕÝÅÓÔ×ÕÅÔ @@ -401,7 +401,7 @@ name="<freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>">.

      ``òÕËÏ×ÏÄÓÔ×Ï'' ÐÏ FreeBSD ÄÏÓÔÕÐÎÏ É ÍÏÖÅÔ ÂÙÔØ ÎÁÊÄÅÎÏ ÎÁ - . + . úÁÍÅÔØÔÅ, ÞÔÏ ÜÔÏÔ ÐÒÏÅËÔ ÎÁÈÏÄÉÔÓÑ × ÐÒÏÃÅÓÓÅ ÒÁÚÒÁÂÏÔËÉ, ÔÁË ÞÔÏ ÎÅËÏÔÏÒÙÅ ÞÁÓÔÉ ÍÏÇÕÔ ÏÔÓÕÔÓÔ×Ï×ÁÔØ. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Please, check and apply this patch, but don't forget to say about syncing with English 1.35 in commit message. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 20 4:32:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A841515237 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 04:32:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id EAA65573; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 04:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from icc.surw.chel.su (surw.chel.su [195.54.2.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894F9156EF for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 04:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@icc.surw.chel.su) Received: (from andy@localhost) by icc.surw.chel.su (8.9.2/8.8.8) id PAA07138; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:28:37 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from andy) Message-Id: <199904201128.PAA07138@icc.surw.chel.su> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:28:37 +0400 (MSD) From: Andrey Zakhvatov Reply-To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11234: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/install.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11234 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/install.sgml >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Apr 20 04:30:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrey Zakhvatov >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: South Ural Railway ICC >Environment: >Description: This is a patch to sync with English 1.15 --- /home/andy/ncvs.ncvs/doc/ru/FAQ/install.sgml Mon Apr 5 20:00:05 1999 +++ /home/andy/ncvs/doc/ru/FAQ/install.sgml Tue Apr 20 15:25:23 1999 @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ - + @@ -248,7 +248,7 @@ - óÏÅÄÉÎÅÎÉÅ Ä×ÕÈ ÍÁÛÉÎ FreeBSD ÞÅÒÅÚ ÐÁÒÁÌÌÅÌØÎÙÅ ÐÏÒÔÙ (PLIP) + óÏÅÄÉÎÅÎÉÅ Ä×ÕÈ ÍÁÛÉÎ Ó FreeBSD ÞÅÒÅÚ ÐÁÒÁÌÌÅÌØÎÙÅ ÐÏÒÔÙ (PLIP)

      äÌÑ ÜÔÏÇÏ ÎÕÖÅÎ ÓÏÅÄÉÎÉÔÅÌØÎÙÊ ÛÎÕÒ ÔÉÐÁ laplink É ÎÁ ÏÂÅÉÈ ÍÁÛÉÎÁÈ @@ -283,8 +283,9 @@ # ifconfig lp0 10.0.0.2 10.0.0.1 -

      üÔÏ ×Ó£! ðÏÖÁÌÕÊÓÔÁ, ÐÒÏÞÔÉÔÅ ÅÝ£ ÓÔÒÁÎÉÃÙ óÐÒÁ×ÏÞÎÉËÁ lp(4) É - lpt(4). +

      üÔÏ ×Ó£! ðÏÖÁÌÕÊÓÔÁ, ÐÒÏÞÔÉÔÅ ÅÝ£ ÓÔÒÁÎÉÃÙ óÐÒÁ×ÏÞÎÉËÁ + É + .

      ÷Ù ÔÁËÖÅ ÄÏÌÖÎÙ ÄÏÂÁ×ÉÔØ ÜÔÉ ÈÏÓÔÙ × ÆÁÊÌ /etc/hosts >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Please, check and commit this patch, but don't forget to say in commit message about syncing with English 1.15. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 20 7:31:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308CD14BEF for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:31:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) id KAA09569 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:29:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjc) From: "Crist J. Clark" Message-Id: <199904201429.KAA09569@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Subject: Move to FAQ 3.x To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: cjclark@home.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was wondering about the status of a move from the current 2.x FAQ to an updated 3.x FAQ. It seems a little odd to me that the 3.x releases ship with the 2.x FAQ. ;) BTW, the new handbook is looking good. Is the FAQ next in line now that that seems to be well under control? -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 20 7:46:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from s-cwis.unomaha.edu (s-cwis.unomaha.edu [137.48.1.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1CED14F63 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bhirata@s-cwis.unomaha.edu) Received: from localhost (bhirata@localhost) by s-cwis.unomaha.edu (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA07027 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:43:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:43:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Bungo Hirata To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: hi Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, please tell me what the BSD is all about. My friend in Osaka, Japan told me about that, and I have no idea about that. He also mentioned me about UNIX. So let me know when you get a free time. Thanks. bungo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 20 8: 5:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ontario.mooseriver.com (ontario.mooseriver.com [208.138.31.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221A314E6D for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:05:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch@ontario.mooseriver.com) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by ontario.mooseriver.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA80955; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:03:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:03:10 -0700 From: Josef Grosch To: Bungo Hirata Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hi Message-ID: <19990420080310.A80928@ontario.mooseriver.com> Reply-To: jgrosch@MooseRiver.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Bungo Hirata on Tue, Apr 20, 1999 at 09:43:41AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Apr 20, 1999 at 09:43:41AM -0500, Bungo Hirata wrote: > Hi, please tell me what the BSD is all about. My friend in Osaka, > Japan told me about that, and I have no idea about that. He also > mentioned me about UNIX. So let me know when you get a free time. > Thanks. Have a look at http://www.freebsd.org Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 3.1 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 20 13:42:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521B9152F6 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:42:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA29416; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from istari.home.net (cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com [24.3.25.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED79151BD for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:38:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sjr@home.net) Received: (from sjr@localhost) by istari.home.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06575; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:36:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sjr) Message-Id: <199904202036.QAA06575@istari.home.net> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:36:04 -0400 (EDT) From: sjr@home.net Reply-To: sjr@home.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11240: Update to y2kbug page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11240 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Update to y2kbug page >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Apr 20 13:40:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Stephen J. Roznowski >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: Update for Y2K page to add additional port problems. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- y2kbug.sgml.orig Tue Apr 20 16:27:13 1999 +++ y2kbug.sgml Tue Apr 20 16:32:57 1999 @@ -226,6 +226,21 @@

      Nntp-t5 suffers from a Y2K problem during the generation of the NEWNEWS command.[Port patched 1999/01/05]
      + +
      ports/11144
      + +
      The tiff port has a hardcoded 19xx. While this is in the + contrib section (for converting Sun rasterfile format to + TIFF), and not installed by default, this should be patched. + [Port patched 1999/04/18] +
      + +
      ports/11145
      + +
      The dgs port suffers from the same TIFF related problem + as the tiff port. [contrib routine for converting Sun + rasterfiles to TIFF] [Port patched 1999/04/18] +

      More information

      >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 20 13:49:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81FC314F60 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:49:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id VAA01372 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:45:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:45:42 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: New version of Doc. Proj. Primer Message-ID: <19990420214541.A692@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, There's the latest and greatest HTML translation of my Doc. Proj. primer at http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/primer/index.html and http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/primer/book.html (the latter is one large HTML file, the other leads to the split files). By popular demand, this is now also in the FreeBSD CVS repository (or will be shortly after this message goes out), which lets me test out how well splitting up doc/en/handbook/Makefile has gone. If you keep a checked out copy of the doc/ tree somewhere on your machine (or you maintain a copy of the CVS repository and do it that way) you should be able to % cd /_path_to_checkout_/doc/en/tutorials/docproj-primer % make DOC_PREFIX=/_patch_to_checkout_/doc all which should build the HTML version. Note 1: You must have doc/share/* checked out as well. Note 2: You don't need to set DOC_PREFIX if the checked out files live under /usr/doc/. The majority of changes are to the first section, the introduction to SGML. Hopefully people will find it friendlier. Comments welcome, N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 20 13:51: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C3714F60 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:49:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id UAA90195; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:16:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:16:07 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: cjclark@home.com Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Move to FAQ 3.x Message-ID: <19990420201607.A88696@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199904201429.KAA09569@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199904201429.KAA09569@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com>; from Crist J. Clark on Tue, Apr 20, 1999 at 10:29:14AM -0400 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Apr 20, 1999 at 10:29:14AM -0400, Crist J. Clark wrote: > I was wondering about the status of a move from the current 2.x FAQ to > an updated 3.x FAQ. It seems a little odd to me that the 3.x releases > ship with the 2.x FAQ. ;) It's a question of time more than anything else. If you know that spceific questions only apply to 2.2.x, or have different answers in 3.x or whatever, please use send-pr(1) to point them out. > BTW, the new handbook is looking good. Is the FAQ next in line now > that that seems to be well under control? It's next in line (although I might get to one or two of the tutorials first). I'm just cleaning up the build system -- it was written to get the Handbook built, and now I'm ripping out all the Handbook dependent stuff and modularising it properly. Plus I'm out of action for the rest of this week (anyone in the UK that wants to see a production of Terry Pratchett's Maskerade taking place in West London (Ickenham/Uxbrige) on W, T, F, and S this week, please get in touch) which means I'm trying to get as much done this evening as possible. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 20 15: 2:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672D715140 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:02:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id PAA36398; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E0914ED7 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:57:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id XAA22568 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:26:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id XAA01665; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:20:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-Id: <199904202120.XAA01665@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:20:20 +0200 (CEST) From: Wolfram Schneider Reply-To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11244: Commercial Vendors - Consulting page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11244 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Commercial Vendors - Consulting page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Apr 20 15:00:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Wolfram Schneider >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: Message-ID: <371B3284.B0B7B7CC@interact.se> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:41:24 +0200 From: Jonas Eriksson Organization: InterACT - http://www.interact.se Subject: Re: Commercial Vendors - Consulting page. Here is some line about InterACT. Chris Lindbergh has over10 years
      system software development experience on BSD based platforms. Areas of expertise
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      supply of turnkey solutions.

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      >Description: >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 20 20: 2:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FED151E6 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:02:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id UAA59568; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from bulls.mei.co.jp (bulls.mei.co.jp [202.224.189.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C35B14D24 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:52:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from takamune@avrl.mei.co.jp) Received: by bulls.mei.co.jp (8.9.1/3.7W) with ESMTP id LAA29108 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:50:14 +0900 (JST) Received: by dodgers.mei.co.jp (8.9.1/3.7W) with SMTP id LAA18374 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:50:14 +0900 (JST) Received: by avrlgate1.avrl.mei.co.jp (8.6.10+2.4W/3.3W3-avrl3.0) id LAA04267; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:50:13 +0900 Received: by dream.avrl.mei.co.jp (8.9.3/3.6W-03/04/98-dream) id LAA02556; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:50:13 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199904210250.LAA02556@dream.avrl.mei.co.jp> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:50:13 +0900 (JST) From: takamune@avrl.mei.co.jp Reply-To: takamune@avrl.mei.co.jp To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11253: periodic.8 has a typo(`local_cron' is obsoleted) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11253 >Category: docs >Synopsis: periodic.8 has a typo(`local_cron' is obsoleted) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Apr 20 20:00:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kazutoki TAKAMUNE >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386 >Organization: Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd. >Environment: src/usr.sbin/periodic/periodic.8 .\" $Id: periodic.8,v 1.8.2.1 1999/02/14 20:06:52 jkh Exp $ >Description: `$ man 8 periodic' shows followings. In EXAMPLES section, the variable name of system registry is obsoleted. Local_cron in /etc/defaults/rc.conf and /usr/sbin/periodic was changed to local_periodic at Aug 19 1997. EXAMPLES Additionally, the system registry will typically have a local_cron vari- able reading: local_cron="/usr/local/etc/periodic /usr/X11R6/etc/periodic" # cron script dirs. >How-To-Repeat: $ man 8 periodic >Fix: --- src/usr.sbin/periodic/periodic.8.orig Mon Feb 15 05:06:52 1999 +++ src/usr.sbin/periodic/periodic.8 Wed Apr 21 11:29:28 1999 @@ -108,9 +108,9 @@ .Dl 0 5 1 * * root periodic monthly 2>&1 .Pp Additionally, the system registry will typically have a -.Va local_cron +.Va local_periodic variable reading: -.Dl local_cron="/usr/local/etc/periodic /usr/X11R6/etc/periodic" # cron script dirs. +.Dl local_periodic="/usr/local/etc/periodic /usr/X11R6/etc/periodic" # periodic script dirs .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr sh 1 , .Xr crontab 5 , >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 20 21:37:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.udg.mx (unknown [148.202.3.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED3215083 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:37:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ernestog@foreigner.class.udg.mx) Received: from foreigner.class.udg.mx ([148.202.99.106]) by mail.udg.mx (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA11221 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:34:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <371D5714.4B7A8DFE@foreigner.class.udg.mx> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:41:56 -0500 From: Ernesto Marcelo Guevara Nodhal X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [es] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Pregunta sobre distribuciones...!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Saludos estoy intentando instalar el FREEBSD, mi problema consiste en saber que version es la que necesito, si la RELEASE o la STABLE, alguien me podria decir la diferencia. Otra cosa mas, me gustaria que me asesoraran para decirme que directorios son los que tengo que descargar para una instalacion del sistema, junto con aplicaciones, lenguajes de programacion y sistema de ventanas. De antemano les agradezco la lectura a mi carta. GRACIAS. ATTE Ernesto M. Guevara Nodhal. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 21 3:30:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imap.ncsa.es (imap.ncsa.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C68153B5 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:29:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from ender.ncsa.es (ender.ncsa.es [194.179.50.15]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA08526; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:27:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <371D5714.4B7A8DFE@foreigner.class.udg.mx> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:23:16 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez To: Ernesto Marcelo Guevara Nodhal Subject: RE: Pregunta sobre distribuciones...!! Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 21-Apr-99 Ernesto Marcelo Guevara Nodhal wrote: > Saludos estoy intentando instalar el FREEBSD, mi problema consiste en > saber que > version es la que necesito, si la RELEASE o la STABLE, > alguien me podria decir la diferencia. Hola... Tienes que instalar la version release, y despues hacer la actualizacion a -stable. Para saber la diferencia entre las "ramas", mira en la direccion: http://www.freebsd.org/es/FAQ/FAQ8.html#8 > Otra cosa mas, me gustaria que me asesoraran para decirme que > directorios son los que tengo que descargar para una instalacion del > sistema, junto con aplicaciones, > lenguajes de programacion y sistema de ventanas. Depende de lo que quieras instalar... mira en: http://www.es.freebsd.org/es/doc-es/docs/instalacion.html Aqui encontraras una descripcion de cada una de las distribuciones incluidas en FreeBSD. Saludos JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 21 3:47:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from stade.demon.co.uk (stade.demon.co.uk [158.152.29.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CEA1579D for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:47:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aw1@stade.co.uk) Received: (from aw1@localhost) by stade.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA98026 for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:14:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from aw1) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:14:21 +0100 From: Adrian Wontroba To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New version of Doc. Proj. Primer Message-ID: <19990421111421.A97853@titus.stade.co.uk> Reply-To: aw1@stade.co.uk References: <19990420214541.A692@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990420214541.A692@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Tue, Apr 20, 1999 at 09:45:42PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: Yes, I need some of that. X-Phone: +(44) 121 681 6677 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Apr 20, 1999 at 09:45:42PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > % cd /_path_to_checkout_/doc/en/tutorials/docproj-primer > % make DOC_PREFIX=/_patch_to_checkout_/doc all Works for me. > Comments welcome, I've dipped into it a little, and it looks instructive and easy to follow. In fact, a good tutorial. -- Adrian Wontroba To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 21 4:42:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0630415085 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id EAA14075; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 04:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from work.mzaki.nom (159.pool15.tokyo.att.ne.jp [165.76.220.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B2214EA8 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 04:40:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mzaki@e-mail.ne.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by work.mzaki.nom (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA28901 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:38:23 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from mzaki@e-mail.ne.jp) Message-Id: <19990421203822G.mzaki@e-mail.ne.jp> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:38:22 +0900 From: Motomichi Matsuzaki To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11257: spell miss (joy.4) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11257 >Category: docs >Synopsis: fix typo (joy.4) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Apr 21 04:40:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Motomichi Matsuzaki >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- /usr/src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/joy.4 Thu Mar 12 16:30:33 1998 +++ /tmp/joy.4 Wed Apr 21 20:13:26 1999 @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@ .Pp This device may be opened by only one process at a time. .Pp -The joystick status is get in an structure joystick via a read() +The joystick status is got in a structure joystick via a read() call. The structure is defined in the header file as follows: .Pp .Bd -literal -offset indent >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 21 5:22:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C231115214 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 05:22:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id FAA17052; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 05:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from work.mzaki.nom (47.pool6.tokyo.att.ne.jp [165.76.23.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C80514EA6 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 05:17:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mzaki@e-mail.ne.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by work.mzaki.nom (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA29020 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:14:38 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from mzaki@e-mail.ne.jp) Message-Id: <19990421211438O.mzaki@e-mail.ne.jp> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:14:38 +0900 From: Motomichi Matsuzaki Reply-To: mzaki@e-mail.ne.jp To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11258: suggestion to refine npx.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11258 >Category: docs >Synopsis: suggestion to refine npx.4 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Apr 21 05:20:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Motomichi Matsuzaki >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: There is no description about "GPL_MATH_EMULATE". In the 'BUGS' section, there is the description, "Emulation of the transcendental functions instructions is incorrect." But "MATH_EMULATE" has not implemented any transcendental functions, and "GPL_MATH_EMULATE" has. This is a confused description, isn't it? In fact, the transcendental funcions under "GPL_MATH_EMULATE" has precision weakness. I suggest to refine these descriptions. Some should be written clearly: * There are two options, "MATH_EMULATE" the original implementation, and "GPL_MATH_EMULATE" derived from Linux. * "MATH_EMULATE" has no transcendental functions. * "GPL_MATH_EMULATE" makes complete emulations, but the transcendental functions have precision weakness. * "GPL_MATH_EMULATE" is GPL-licensed so that the GENERIC kernel uses "MATH_EMULATE". >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 21 7: 2:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F9E1534B for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:02:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id HAA75845; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from work.mzaki.nom (48.pool6.tokyo.att.ne.jp [165.76.23.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A198315388 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 06:53:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mzaki@e-mail.ne.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by work.mzaki.nom (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA29555 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:50:36 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from mzaki@e-mail.ne.jp) Message-Id: <19990421225036I.mzaki@e-mail.ne.jp> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:50:36 +0900 From: Motomichi Matsuzaki Reply-To: mzaki@e-mail.ne.jp To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11259: manpage correction (spkr.4) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11259 >Category: docs >Synopsis: manpage correction (spkr.4) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Apr 21 07:00:02 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Motomichi Matsuzaki >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- /usr/src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/spkr.4 Thu Mar 12 16:30:38 1998 +++ /tmp/spkr.4 Wed Apr 21 22:47:00 1999 @@ -73,7 +73,7 @@ useful in a timesharing environment and are omitted. The `octave-tracking' feature and the slur mark are new. .Pp -There are 84 accessible notes numbered 1-83 in 7 octaves, each running from +There are 84 accessible notes numbered 1-84 in 7 octaves, each running from C to B, numbered 0-6; the scale is equal-tempered A440 and octave 3 starts with middle C. By default, the play function emits half-second notes with the last 1/16th second being `rest time'. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 21 12: 7:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA14815859; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:07:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from billf@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id MAA01687; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:05:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:05:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904211905.MAA01687@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mzaki@e-mail.ne.jp, billf@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, billf@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11257: fix typo (joy.4) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: fix typo (joy.4) State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: billf State-Changed-When: Wed Apr 21 12:04:40 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: I rewrote the sentence. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->billf Responsible-Changed-By: billf Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Apr 21 12:04:40 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll commit/merge the change. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 21 19: 2:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC32158B1 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:02:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA96012; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mortis.futuresouth.com (mortis.futuresouth.com [209.45.228.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B0E15281 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:56:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@mortis.futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by mortis.futuresouth.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA29836; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:54:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199904220154.UAA29836@mortis.futuresouth.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:54:21 -0500 (CDT) From: fullermd@over-yonder.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11271: Bad formatting in passwd.5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11271 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Bad formatting in passwd.5 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Apr 21 19:00:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Matthew D. Fuller >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386 >Organization: Organization? What's that? >Environment: >Description: Bad formatting of a section header, bleeding over into the next line. Cut&pasted from 'man 5 passwd': Changes in behavior from older versions of FreeBSD There have been several bug fixes and improvements in FreeBSD's >How-To-Repeat: man 5 passwd /Changes >Fix: I'm not entirely sure this is the correct fix. It fixes the appearance, but loses data on the markup. I suspect there's some way of making it be considered part of the section header without stripping the markup from 'FreeBSD', but I don't know how. Index: passwd.5 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/share/man/man5/passwd.5,v retrieving revision 1.22 diff -u -r1.22 passwd.5 --- passwd.5 1998/08/31 16:41:07 1.22 +++ passwd.5 1999/04/22 01:47:25 @@ -552,8 +552,7 @@ `operator'. If an `operator' netgroup doesn't exist, the system will try to match users against the normal `operator' group instead. -.Ss Changes in behavior from older versions of -.Tn FreeBSD +.Ss Changes in behavior from older versions of FreeBSD There have been several bug fixes and improvements in .Tn FreeBSD Ns 's NIS/YP handling, some of which have caused changes in behavior. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 21 21:11:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060AE15920; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:11:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id VAA09437; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:08:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:08:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199904220408.VAA09437@freefall.freebsd.org> To: fullermd@over-yonder.net, grog@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, grog@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11271: Bad formatting in passwd.5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Bad formatting in passwd.5 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: grog State-Changed-When: Wed Apr 21 21:05:56 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch committed as submitted. 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V1.5) id LAA00693; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:17:47 +0100 Message-ID: <19990422111747.E14492@lehman.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:17:47 +0100 From: nclayton@lehman.com To: A Joseph Koshy , nik@freebsd.org Cc: doc@freebsd.org, davenport@berkshire.net Subject: Re: On versioning in DocBook References: <199904210606.LAA17864@postbox.india.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199904210606.LAA17864@postbox.india.hp.com>; from A Joseph Koshy on Wed, Apr 21, 1999 at 11:36:35AM +0530 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Joseph, [ I'm cc'ing this to freebsd-doc and the Davenport mailing list to open out discussion -- if you're reading this on one of those two lists, *please* ensure that you only follow up to the correct list, thanks (Norm, perhaps you could remove the cc: freebsd-doc from this message when you moderate it?) ] On Wed, Apr 21, 1999 at 11:36:35AM +0530, A Joseph Koshy wrote: > Docbook has some features to handle versioning of text (using one of > the common attributes of all the elements if I remember right). Do you mean the OS attribute? The DTD says --OS: Operating system to which element applies; no default-- which is the closest match I can think of. I thought there was another one that was more appropriate but a quick scan through the DTD doesn't show anything promising (of course, we could always add one). > There are a couple of places where version specific text would be > really useful: e.g., the Handbook currently refers to disks by their > pre-3.x names `sd[0-9]', while post 3.1 disks are named `da[0-9]' > (see PR docs/11215). > > Can/should we use Docbook's facilities to handle version specific > documentation? If so (or if not), do you have any guidelines on > writing version specific text? I haven't given it a lot of thought yet. The same question had occured to me when I was doing the conversion, but I ignored it then because I had too much else to concentrate on :-) First, I think it's a good idea if the Handbook covers more than just the latest version of FreeBSD, so including content that refers to previous versions is a good thing, and to be encouraged. Having said that, I'm not convinced as to the best way to do it. A number of possible approaches spring to mind. 1. You can use s (or other elements, possibly ) with a suitable to indicate the version that it applies to. See http://www.nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk/FreeBSD/make-world/make-world.html for an example of that approach. I don't think this scales well, and it makes it difficult to pull out a version of the documentation which (for example) only contains text appropriate for version 3.1 or 2.2.8. 2. You can use the OS attribute, and duplicate elements with different values for this attribute. Perhaps <para os="RELENG_22">Disk devices look like <devicename>sd<replaceable/nn/s<replaceable/n/</devicename>.</para> <para os="RELENG_3">Disk devices look like <devicename>da<replaceable/nn/s<replaceable/n/</devicename>.</para> Or even <para>Disk devices look like <devicename os="RELENG_22"/sd<replaceable/nn/s<replaceable/n// <devicename os="RELENG_3"/da<replaceable/nn/s<replaceable/n//.</para> A pre-processor would go through the SGML, leaving only those elements that either have no OS attribute, or have a specific value in it. 3. Use parameter entities; <!DOCTYPE book .... [ <!ENTITY % releng.22 "IGNORE"> <!ENTITY % releng.30 "IGNORE"> <!ENTITY % releng.31 "IGNORE"> ]> ... <![ %releng.22 [ <para>Disk devices look like <devicename/sd/.</para> ]]> <![ %releng.30 [ <para>Disk devices look like <devicename/da/.</para> ]]> <![ %releng.31 [ <para>Disk devices look like <devicename/da/.</para> ]]> and so on. Still quite cumbersome, but doesn't need a pre-processor to strip out elements with the wrong OS attribute value. 4. Use general entities and parameter entities <!DOCTYPE book ... [ <!ENTITY % releng.22 "IGNORE"> <!ENTITY % releng.30 "IGNORE"> <!ENTITY % releng.31 "IGNORE"> <![ %releng.22 [ <!ENTITY disk.device "sd"> ]]> <![ %releng.30 [ <!ENTITY disk.device "da"> ]]> <![ %releng.31 [ <!ENTITY disk.device "da"> ]]> ]> ... <para>Disk devices look like <devicename/&disk.device;/.</para> This would also work, but would quickly lead to a profusion of general entities, which is probably over confusing. Incidentally, none of these tackle an important issue -- some changes might only affect certain releases before being superceded. For example, for a long time, the main config file was /etc/sysconfig. Then it was /etc/rc.conf. Then /etc/rc.conf.local. And now it's back to /etc/rc.conf again. The time line was something like 2.0 -> 2.2.5 /etc/sysconfig 2.2.6 -> 2.2.8 /etc/rc.conf 3.0 -> 3.1 /etc/rc.conf.local 3.1 -> -current /etc/rc.conf [ I might have some of the details wrong, but it'll illustrate this point ] There were 10 releases between 2.0 and 2.2.5, and 3 between 2.2.6 and 2.2.8. We need some way of either saying (a) This content applies to all these versions or (b) This content applies to all versions between these two values Whichever way we do this, a third application is going to need to parse this information out of the document, as I don't think this can be done in SGML. Perhaps we should extend the DocBook DTD and add two new attributes, OSVersionMin and OSVersionMax for the minmum and maximum FreeBSD versions that the element applies to? As you can see, I don't have any quick answers to this problem. I'd welcome input from others on the -doc mailing list, and from those members of Davenport who have had to solve this problem for their own documentation. N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 22 4: 3:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.casema.net (sun4000.casema.net [195.96.96.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9AA9159AC for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 04:03:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pels@casema.net) Received: from obsvlier (3dyn131.breda.casema.net [195.96.110.131]) by smtp1.casema.net (8.9.1/CASEMA) with SMTP id NAA00987 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:00:33 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:00:33 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <000801be8caf$342ecb80$836e60c3@obsvlier> From: "Pels" <pels@casema.net> To: <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:59:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BE8CBF.EE408300" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BE8CBF.EE408300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable send me some cool free stuff. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BE8CBF.EE408300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>send me some cool free = stuff.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BE8CBF.EE408300-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 22 4: 9: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21013151C7 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 04:08:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA48483; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 04:05:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: "Pels" <pels@casema.net> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:59:17 +0200." <000801be8caf$342ecb80$836e60c3@obsvlier> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 04:05:43 -0700 Message-ID: <48481.924779143@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > send me some cool free stuff. The following email message is totally free. Enjoy! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 22 5: 3:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544701596D for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 05:03:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip82.houston2.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.11.201.82]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9FC37067; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:01:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA03589; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:01:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:01:31 -0500 From: Chris Costello <chris@holly.dyndns.org> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> Cc: Pels <pels@casema.net>, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <19990422070131.J1053@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: chris@calldei.com References: <000801be8caf$342ecb80$836e60c3@obsvlier> <48481.924779143@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.1i In-Reply-To: <48481.924779143@zippy.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Thu, Apr 22, 1999 at 04:05:43AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 22, 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > send me some cool free stuff. > > The following email message is totally free. Enjoy! Congratulations! Now you have a free thread on your hands! > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > -- Chris Costello <chris@calldei.com> Who is General Failure and why is he reading my disk? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 22 8: 5:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2313A1512D; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:05:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from freno.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.167]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA22572; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:00:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freno.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.0) id RAA21761; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:00:44 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19990422170043.A21726@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:00:43 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider <wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de> To: doc@freebsd.org Cc: nik@freebsd.org Subject: [stewart.heckenberg@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au: Handbook page layout] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Forwarded message from Stewart Heckenberg <stewart.heckenberg@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au> ----- Delivered-To: wosch@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:26:42 +1000 From: Stewart Heckenberg <stewart.heckenberg@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au> Subject: Handbook page layout X-Sender: c9707010@studentmailbox.newcastle.edu.au To: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG Hi, The previous layout (with the navigation bar picture) looked much better than the current one - any plans to re-implement it? The current one looks a bit bare and doesn't fit in with the rest of the site. Cheers, Stewart ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Wolfram Schneider <wosch@freebsd.org> http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 22 8:43:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E86415176; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:43:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from freno.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.167]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA22736; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:02:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freno.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.0) id RAA21781; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:02:23 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19990422170222.B21726@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:02:22 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider <wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de> To: doc@freebsd.org Cc: nik@freebsd.org Subject: [stewart.heckenberg@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au: ] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Forwarded message from Stewart Heckenberg <stewart.heckenberg@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au> ----- Delivered-To: wosch@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:21:34 +1000 From: Stewart Heckenberg <stewart.heckenberg@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au> X-Sender: c9707010@studentmailbox.newcastle.edu.au To: wosch@freebsd.org Hi, The link "Getting FreeBSD" in the sidebar under "Software" on the main freebsd page should link to http://www.freebsd.org/availability.html and not http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html Cheers, Stewart ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Wolfram Schneider <wosch@freebsd.org> http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 22 14: 7:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from thrush.omix.com (thrush.omix.com [206.40.77.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5B2159BE for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:07:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from byron@thrush.omix.com) Received: (from byron@localhost) by thrush.omix.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA06569; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:06:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from byron) Message-Id: <199904222106.OAA06569@thrush.omix.com> Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <19990422070131.J1053@holly.dyndns.org> from Chris Costello at "Apr 22, 1999 7: 1:31 am" To: chris@calldei.com Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:06:33 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, pels@casema.net, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: byron@omix.com (Byron Brummer) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris Costello <chris@holly.dyndns.org> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 22, 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > send me some cool free stuff. > > > > The following email message is totally free. Enjoy! > > Congratulations! Now you have a free thread on your hands! And what's a free thread without a free me too message! -- -Zenin (zenin@archive.rhps.org) From The Blue Camel we learn: BSD: A psychoactive drug, popular in the 80s, probably developed at UC Berkeley or thereabouts. Similar in many ways to the prescription-only medication called "System V", but infinitely more useful. (Or, at least, more fun.) The full chemical name is "Berkeley Standard Distribution". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 22 20:22:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tasam.com (tasam.com [209.219.168.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AEE14BFE for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:22:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from melissa@metallinet.org) Received: from metallinet.org ([208.18.247.184]) by tasam.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA29025 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:19:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <371FE689.95889384@metallinet.org> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:18:34 -0500 From: Melissa <melissa@metallinet.org> Reply-To: melissa@metallinet.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: NAMED Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Do you have any detailed information on the .db file like what the abbreviations etc. I couldn't find anything indepth on it on your website. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 23 0:38:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from kalamalka.gizzywump.com (adsl-207-214-111-190.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [207.214.111.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604ED14EE9 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:38:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from richard@homemail.com) Received: from [10.0.0.4] ([10.0.0.4]) by kalamalka.gizzywump.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA28602 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:36:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from richard@homemail.com) X-Sender: kiss@pop.ogopogo.net (Unverified) Message-Id: <l03130300b345d2393e96@[10.0.0.4]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:36:06 -0700 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: Richard Kiss <richard@homemail.com> Subject: /etc/sendmail.cw path inaccuracy Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In a couple FAQs (FAQ95.html & the mail FAQ), the following paragraph is quoted from the sendmail FAQ: >You have asked mail to the domain (e.g., domain.net) to be >forwarded to a specific host (in this case, relay.domain.net) >by using an MX record, but the relay machine does not recognize >itself as domain.net. Add domain.net to /etc/sendmail.cw >(if you are using FEATURE(use_cw_file)) or add "Cw domain.net" >to /etc/sendmail.cf. This /etc/sendmail.cw file is now expected to be at /etc/mail/sendmail.cw. I was completely baffled for several hours trying to figure out what I was doing wrong. I suggest adding text like this: ------------------------ Newer versions of FreeBSD expect this file to be at /etc/mail/sendmail.cw. You can examine /etc/sendmail.cf to see if this applies to you. ------------------------ Perhaps putting a template "blank" file at /etc/mail/sendmail.cw would also be useful. Thanks for the great effort! -- Richard ---------------------------------------------------------- Richard Kiss 140 Locksunart Way #8 Sunnyvale, CA, 94087 richard@homemail.com http://www.ogopogo.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 23 11:31:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5713C14EB2; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:31:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id LAA07360; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:29:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:29:00 -0700 (PDT) From: <ghelmer@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199904231829.LAA07360@freefall.freebsd.org> To: takamune@avrl.mei.co.jp, ghelmer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11253: periodic.8 has a typo(`local_cron' is obsoleted) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: periodic.8 has a typo(`local_cron' is obsoleted) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Fri Apr 23 13:28:44 CDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 23 11:31:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from CLEMSON.EDU (mail.clemson.edu [130.127.28.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88922154B9 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:31:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from charlek@CLEMSON.EDU) Received: from ivan.eng.clemson.edu (artip2-pc.ces.clemson.edu [130.127.120.39]) by CLEMSON.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA02802 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904231828.OAA02802@CLEMSON.EDU> X-Sender: charlek@mail.clemson.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:36:17 -0400 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Charles E. Kennedy" <charlek@CLEMSON.EDU> Subject: general questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I just visited your web site and I am interested in trying your operating system as soon as I upgrade my current system. I have not been satisfied with the stability of windows 95/98 and am interested in a different approach. However, I do have a few questions for you. 1) Does FreeBSD operate in a windows like environment with a mouse or is everything executed from a command line more like DOS? 2) Will my current windows '95 based programs work on FreeBSD? For example, although I am not crazy about the Microsoft OS solutions, I do like most of the windows software. Of particular concern to me is MS Office. I have had much success with this program and would like to be able to continue to use it. 3) Do I need some version of DOS installed for it to work, or is a freshly formatted Hard drive the best way to install the OS? I would appreciate any help you can give me regarding these questions. thank you for your time chuck kennedy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 23 13:24:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rerun.lucentctc.com (rerun.lucentctc.com [199.93.237.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DBED14D98 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:24:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcambria@lucent.com) Received: by rerun.lucentctc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <H7N72XTK>; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:22:21 -0400 Message-ID: <75ADD7496F0BD211ADC000104B8846CF562FE7@rerun.lucentctc.com> From: "Cambria, Mike" <mcambria@lucent.com> To: "'doc@freebsd.org'" <doc@freebsd.org> Subject: Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:22:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe end Michael C. Cambria Lucent Technologies Member of Technical Staff Bell Labs Innovations Voice: (978) 287 - 2807 300 Baker Avenue Fax: (978) 287 - 2810 Concord, Massachusetts 01742 Internet: mcambria@lucent.com <mailto:mcambria@lucent.com> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 24 2:59:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B9914CB0 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 02:59:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id AAA05036; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 00:43:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 00:43:03 +0100 From: Nik Clayton <nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk> To: "Charles E. Kennedy" <charlek@CLEMSON.EDU> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: general questions Message-ID: <19990424004303.A4145@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199904231828.OAA02802@CLEMSON.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199904231828.OAA02802@CLEMSON.EDU>; from Charles E. Kennedy on Fri, Apr 23, 1999 at 02:36:17PM -0400 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Apr 23, 1999 at 02:36:17PM -0400, Charles E. Kennedy wrote: > 1) Does FreeBSD operate in a windows like environment with a mouse or is > everything executed from a command line more like DOS? You can do either. A minimal FreeBSD install will leave you at the command line. If you include the X Windowing System then you get windows, pointers, and all that. X is more involved to configure than MS WIndows is, but far more flexible. > 2) Will my current windows '95 based programs work on FreeBSD? For > example, although I am not crazy about the Microsoft OS solutions, I do > like most of the windows software. Of particular concern to me is MS > Office. I have had much success with this program and would like to be > able to continue to use it. No. Replacements for some of them exist. For example, StarOffice is a Unix MS Office look-a-like. WordPerfect 8 for Unix also works. You might also want to investigate the WINE project and http://www.wine.org/, which will let you run some Windows programs on FreeBSD. > 3) Do I need some version of DOS installed for it to work, or is a freshly > formatted Hard drive the best way to install the OS? Either. DOS is not required. However, depending your disk geometry (it's size, how it's laid out, and how the BIOS thinks its laid out) a small (5MB or so) DOS partition at the beginning of the drive can help the FreeBSD installer determine the nature of your disk. This small partition can be deleted as part of the installation. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 24 8:38: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58661508F; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 08:37:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id QAA25054; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:07:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:07:12 +0100 From: Nik Clayton <nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk> To: Wolfram Schneider <wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de> Cc: doc@freebsd.org, nik@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [stewart.heckenberg@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au: Handbook page layout] Message-ID: <19990424160712.A24968@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990422170043.A21726@cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990422170043.A21726@cs.tu-berlin.de>; from Wolfram Schneider on Thu, Apr 22, 1999 at 05:00:43PM +0200 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 22, 1999 at 05:00:43PM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from Stewart Heckenberg <stewart.heckenberg@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au> ----- > > The previous layout (with the navigation bar picture) looked much better > than the current one - any plans to re-implement it? The current one looks > a bit bare and doesn't fit in with the rest of the site. I'm working on it. N -- Bagel: The carbohydrate with the hole To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 24 10:16:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imap.ncsa.es (imap.ncsa.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D0314D01 for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 10:16:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from ender.ncsa.es (ender.ncsa.es [194.179.50.15]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA26973; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 19:17:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <XFMail.990424191258.jesusr@ncsa.es> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990420214541.A692@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 19:12:58 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez <jesusr@ncsa.es> To: Nik Clayton <nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk> Subject: RE: New version of Doc. Proj. Primer Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > % cd /_path_to_checkout_/doc/en/tutorials/docproj-primer > % make DOC_PREFIX=/_patch_to_checkout_/doc all DOC_PREFIX works well for primer and handbook. > The majority of changes are to the first section, the introduction to SGML. > Hopefully people will find it friendlier. I like specially DocBook section :) JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 24 10:20:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imap.ncsa.es (imap.ncsa.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3838D14C37 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 10:20:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from ender.ncsa.es (ender.ncsa.es [194.179.50.15]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA27003; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 19:21:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <XFMail.990424191638.jesusr@ncsa.es> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990420201607.A88696@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 19:16:38 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez <jesusr@ncsa.es> To: Nik Clayton <nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Move to FAQ 3.x Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> BTW, the new handbook is looking good. Is the FAQ next in line now >> that that seems to be well under control? > > It's next in line (although I might get to one or two of the tutorials > first). I'm just cleaning up the build system -- it was written to get > the Handbook built, and now I'm ripping out all the Handbook dependent > stuff and modularising it properly. If you want i can test your conversion tools with spanish faq and sync the conversion with english version. JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 24 14: 1:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freed.dyn.ez-ip.net (derby.JSP.UMontreal.CA [132.204.45.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC27152AB for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:01:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spidey@jsp.umontreal.ca) Received: from localhost (spidey@localhost) by freed.dyn.ez-ip.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA04358 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 17:01:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from spidey@jsp.umontreal.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: freed.dyn.ez-ip.net: spidey owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 17:01:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Spidey <spidey@jsp.umontreal.ca> X-Sender: spidey@freed.dyn.ez-ip.net Reply-To: Spidey <beaupran@jsp.umontreal.ca> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: /usr/doc probs: that's it.. I give up. (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990424170057.4289G-100000@freed.dyn.ez-ip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I sent this to -questions first, and Doug White told me I was better to try here, so here we go... Spidey Si l'image donne l'illusion de savoir C'est que l'adage pretend que pour croire, L'important ne serait que de voir Lofofora ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Spidey <spidey@freed.dyn.ez-ip.net> To: freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Reply-To: Spidey <beaupran@jsp.umontreal.ca> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:25:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: /usr/doc probs: that's it.. I give up. I've been messing with this for too long.. You people out there are the only one solution I have left :) I've cvsupped the latest doc-all collection in /usr/doc. Now, I don't remember how exactly, but I got my /usr/share/doc dir removed. I don't know if it has something to do with the missing dir, but now I get this when I 'cd /usr/doc ; make DOC_LANG="en" all': ===> FAQ sgmlfmt -f html -links /usr/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml sgmlfmt -f latin1 -links /usr/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml sgmlfmt -f ascii -links /usr/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml FAQ.trf:7570: warning: can't find special character `:i' FAQ.trf:7570: warning: can't find special character `:i' ===> en ===> en/handbook /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -c /usr/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/3.0/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /usr/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl -t sgml handbook.sgml /usr/local/bin/jade:E: cannot open "handbook.sgml" (No such file or directory) *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. $ Darn. root@freed [00:49am] doc# ll /usr/doc/en/handbook/handbook.sgml -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3188 Apr 8 17:21 en/handbook/handbook.sgml root@freed [00:49am] doc# Darn again. I'm despaired of getting to compile the latest handbook.. :( thanks in advance. PS: It would be really nice to have a file /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile or a FAQ answer about this... Spidey Si l'image donne l'illusion de savoir C'est que l'adage pretend que pour croire, L'important ne serait que de voir Lofofora To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 24 14:34:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from server.tamnet.com.mx (mail.patman.com.mx [148.245.60.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4D114CC0 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:34:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesus@patman.com.mx) Received: by SERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.74) id <JSZXH3AD>; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:31:36 -0600 Message-ID: <81396C835ED9D211ACFD0080AD907F5E0220F2@SERVER> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ing=2E_Jes=FAs_Alfredo_Miranda_Mej=EDa?= <jesus@patman.com.mx> To: "'freebsd-doc@freebsd.org'" <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> Subject: Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:29:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.74) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org good afternoon. i need more information about how to get the freebsd software on cd or any other format. thanks.=20 Ing. Jes=FAs Miranda=20 Servicios Dinamicos Patman . S.A. DE C.V. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 24 14:34:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from server.tamnet.com.mx (mail.patman.com.mx [148.245.60.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB81714E64 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:34:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesus@patman.com.mx) Received: by SERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.74) id <JSZXH3AC>; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:31:35 -0600 Message-ID: <81396C835ED9D211ACFD0080AD907F5E0220F2@SERVER> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ing=2E_Jes=FAs_Alfredo_Miranda_Mej=EDa?= <jesus@patman.com.mx> To: "'freebsd-doc@freebsd.org'" <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> Subject: Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:29:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.74) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org good afternoon. i need more information about how to get the freebsd software on cd or any other format. thanks.=20 Ing. Jes=FAs Miranda=20 Servicios Dinamicos Patman . S.A. DE C.V. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 24 14:41:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F237D14D66 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:41:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.152.128]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990424214309.BSGV6531620.mta2-rme@wocker>; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:43:09 +1200 From: "Dan Langille" <junkmale@xtra.co.nz> Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Ing.Jesús Alfredo Miranda Mejía <jesus@patman.com.mx> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:41:14 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Subject: Re: Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <81396C835ED9D211ACFD0080AD907F5E0220F2@SERVER> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990424214309.BSGV6531620.mta2-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 24 Apr 99, at 13:29, Ing. Jes=FAs Alfredo Miranda Me wrote: > i need more information about how to get the freebsd software on cd or a= ny > other format. You can buy the CD's from www.cdrom.com or you can download it from ftp.freebsd.org. -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/freebsd/ NZ FreeBSD User Group - http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/ The Racing System - http://www.racingsystem.com/racingsystem.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 25 9:18:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF6314C2E; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:18:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA10420; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:18:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:18:29 -0700 (PDT) From: <wosch@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199904251618.JAA10420@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, wosch@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10083: Adding OpenWorld to Consulting services Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Adding OpenWorld to Consulting services State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: wosch State-Changed-When: Sun Apr 25 09:16:41 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Added to www/en/commercial/consulting.raw rev 1.9 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 25 9:22:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568B414F81; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:22:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA10688; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:22:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:22:30 -0700 (PDT) From: <wosch@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199904251622.JAA10688@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, wosch@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10082: Adding Pine Internet to Consultants page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Adding Pine Internet to Consultants page State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: wosch State-Changed-When: Sun Apr 25 09:21:35 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Added to www/en/commercial/consulting.raw rev 1.10 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 25 9:34:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D45E14C2E; 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 25 10: 9:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCAD514BDD; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 10:09:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA13824; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 10:09:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 10:09:46 -0700 (PDT) From: <wosch@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199904251709.KAA13824@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mzaki@e-mail.ne.jp, wosch@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11259: manpage correction (spkr.4) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: manpage correction (spkr.4) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: wosch State-Changed-When: Sun Apr 25 10:09:27 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch applied in src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/spkr.4 rev 1.11 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 25 10:16:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B24314C0F; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 10:16:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA14247; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 10:16:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 10:16:57 -0700 (PDT) From: <wosch@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199904251716.KAA14247@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, wosch@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11244: Commercial Vendors - Consulting page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Commercial Vendors - Consulting page State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: wosch State-Changed-When: Sun Apr 25 10:16:39 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Added in www/en/commercial/consulting.raw rev 1.11 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 25 16:28:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from USlink.net (link3.uslink.net [199.199.168.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920B714F25 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:28:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from iami@iami.org) Received: from iami.org ([206.146.187.195]) by USlink.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA24115 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:27:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ntserver [206.146.187.195] by iami.org (1.61/SMTP) for <--flwebmaster@javaweb.eng.sun.com> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 99 14:00:19 Central Daylight Time Message-Id: <9904251400.107dace4@iami.org> Message-ID: <02da01be8f4d$dce96690$c3bb92ce@ntserver.iami.org> From: "iami" <iami@iami.org> To: <fluorocarbon@melchergala.net> Subject: EAA National Conference - May 9-11, 1999 - Las Vegas, Nevada Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 14:00:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02D5_01BE8F23.F4135E90" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02D5_01BE8F23.F4135E90 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_02D6_01BE8F23.F4135E90" ------=_NextPart_001_02D6_01BE8F23.F4135E90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable URGENT RESPONSE REQUESTED =20 April 25, 1999 =20 Dear Environmental Professional: =20 The Environmental Assessment Association would like to extend an invitation to you to attend our National Environmental Conference. =20 This excellent educational event will be held on May 9-11, 1999 at Sam's Town in Las Vegas, Nevada. =20 For information on the great line up of topics and speakers... =20 Please click on this link: http://www.iami.org/eaa/expo.html =20 P.S. - This conference is nearing capacity. 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boundary="------------ABFFCDE9F2B656406114F78D" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------ABFFCDE9F2B656406114F78D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've attached an HTML doc describing how to use tcpdump and an entropy measurment to verify that IPsec is working. --------------ABFFCDE9F2B656406114F78D Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; name="ipsecmust.html" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="ipsecmust.html" <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta name="GENERATOR" content="Mozilla/4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) [Netscape]"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFCCCC" link="#0000EE" vlink="#551A8B" alink="#FF0000"> <center> <h1> Independent Verification of IPsec Functionality Under FreeBSD 3.0 <hr WIDTH="100%"></h1></center> <center><i>You  installed IPsec and it seems to be working.  How do you know?  I describe a method for experimentally verifying that IPsec is working</i></center> <p><br> <h2> The Problem</h2> First, let's assume you have <a href="#Installing IPsec">installed <i>IPsec</i></a>.  How do you know its <a href="#Caveat">working</a>?  Sure, your connection won't work if its misconfigured, and it will work when you finally get it right.  <i>Netstat</i> will list it.  But can you independently confirm it? <h2> The Solution</h2> First, some crypto-relevent info theory: <ol> <li> Encrypted data is uniformly distributed, ie, has maximal entropy per symbol.</li> <li> Raw, uncompressed data is typically redundant, i.e., has sub-maximal entropy.</li> </ol> Suppose you could measure the entropy of the data to- and from-  your network interface.  Then you could see the difference between unencrypted data and encrypted data.  This would be true even if some of the data in "encrypted mode" was not encrypted ---as the outermost IP header must be, if the packet is to be routable. <h4> <a NAME="MUST"></a>MUST</h4> Ueli Maurer's "Universal Statistical Test for Random Bit Generators" ("MUST") quickly measures the entropy of a sample.  It uses a compression-like algorithm.  <a href="#Maurer's Universal Statistical Test">The code  is given below for a variant which measures successive (~quarter megabyte) chunks of a file</a>. <h4> <a NAME="Tcpdump"></a>Tcpdump</h4> We also need a way to capture the raw network data.  A program called "<i>tcpdump</i>" lets you do this, if you have enabled the <i>Berkeley Packet Filter</i> interface in your <a href="#usr/src/sys/i386/conf/KERNELNAME">kernel's config file</a>. <p>The command <blockquote><b>tcpdump</b> <b>-c</b> 4000 <b>-s</b> 10000 <b>-w</b> <i>dumpfile.bin</i></blockquote> will capture 4000 raw packets to <i>dumpfile.bin</i>.  Up to 10,000 bytes per packet will be captured in this example. <br>  <br>  <h2> The Experiment</h2> Here's the experiment.  Open a window to an IPsec host and another window to an insecure host. <p>Now start <a href="#Tcpdump">capturing packets</a>. <p>In the "secure" window, run the unix command "yes", which will stream the "y" character.    After a while, stop this.  Switch to the insecure window, and repeat.  After a while, stop. <p>Now run <a href="#Maurer's Universal Statistical Test">MUST</a> on the captured packets.  You should see something like the the following.  The important thing to note is that the secure connection has 93% (6.7) of the expected value (7.18), and the "normal" connection has 29% (2.1) of the expected value. <br>  <blockquote><tt>% tcpdump -c 4000 -s 10000 -w ipsecdemo.bin</tt> <br><tt>% uliscan ipsecdemo.bin</tt></blockquote> <blockquote><tt>Uliscan 21 Dec 98</tt> <br><tt>L=8 256 258560</tt> <br><tt>Measuring file ipsecdemo.bin</tt> <br><tt>Init done</tt> <br><tt>Expected value for L=8 is 7.1836656</tt> <br><tt>6.9396 <b>--------------------------------------------------------</b></tt> <br><tt>6.6177 -----------------------------------------------------</tt> <br><tt>6.4100 ---------------------------------------------------</tt> <br><tt>2.1101 -----------------</tt> <br><tt>2.0838 -----------------</tt> <br><tt>2.0983 -----------------</tt></blockquote> <h2> <a NAME="Caveat"></a>Caveat</h2> This experiment shows that IPsec <i>does</i> seem to be distributing the payload data <i>uniformly</i>, as encryption should.   However,  the experiment described here <i>can not </i>detect many possible flaws in a system (none of which do I have any evidence for).  These include poor key generation or exchange, data or keys being visible to others, use of weak algorithms, kernel subversion, etc.    Study the source; know the code. <h2> <a NAME="IPsec"></a>IPsec -Definition</h2> Internet Protocol security extensions to IP v 4; required for IP v6.  A protocol for negotiating encryption and authentication at the IP (host-to-host) level.  SSL secures only one application socket; SSH secures only a login; PGP secures only a specified file or message.  IPsec encrypts everything between two hosts. <h2> <a NAME="Installing IPsec"></a>Installing IPsec</h2> Starting from the BSD 3.0 stable release, <ol> <li> install IPsec v0.04, rebuild, reinstall</li> <li> run the administration tools (e.g, <i>ipsecadm</i>) and distribute keys (or use <i>Photuris</i> for key exchange)</li> <li> set the routes (<i>rt</i>) up appropriately</li> </ol> You may want to make an "ipsec_setup" script containing the <i>ipsecadm</i> and <i>rt</i> commands which establish your IPsec tunnel.  You can run this script automatically at boottime from your <i>/etc/rc.local</i>   The ipsec_setup script will have to contain at least two <i>ipsecadm</i> commands and one <i>rt</i> command to be useful. <br>  <br>  <h2> /<a NAME="usr/src/sys/i386/conf/KERNELNAME"></a>usr/src/sys/i386/conf/KERNELNAME</h2> This needs to be present in the kernel config file in order to run IPsec.  After adding it, run <i>config</i>, etc. and rebuild and reinstall. <p><tt>#  The `bpfilter' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.  Be</tt> <br><tt>#  aware of the legal and administrative consequences of enabling this</tt> <br><tt>#  option. Heh heh. The number of devices determines the maximum number of</tt> <br><tt>#  simultaneous BPF clients programs runnable.</tt> <p><tt><b>pseudo-device   bpfilter        2 </b>      #Berkeley packet filter ELSINORE</tt> <p><b><tt># IPSEC</tt></b> <br><b><tt>options IPSEC</tt></b> <br><b><tt>options "MD5"</tt></b> <br><b><tt>pseudo-device   enc     1</tt></b> <br>  <br>  <h2> <a NAME="Maurer's Universal Statistical Test"></a>Maurer's Universal Statistical Test (for block size=8 bits)</h2> <p><br><tt><font size=-1>/*</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>   ULISCAN.c   ---blocksize of 8</font></tt> <p><tt><font size=-1>1 Oct 98</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>1 Dec 98</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>21 Dec 98       uliscan.c derived from ueli8.c</font></tt> <p><tt><font size=-1>This version has // comments removed for Sun cc</font></tt> <p><tt><font size=-1>This implements Ueli M Maurer's</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>"Universal Statistical Test for Random Bit Generators"</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>using L=8</font></tt> <p><tt><font size=-1>Accepts a filename on the command line;</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>writes its results, with other info, to stdout.</font></tt> <p><tt><font size=-1>Handles input file exhaustion gracefully.</font></tt> <p><tt><font size=-1>Ref: J. Cryptology v 5 no 2, 1992 pp 89-105</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>also on the web somewhere, which is where I found it.</font></tt> <p><tt><font size=-1>-David Honig</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>honig@sprynet.com</font></tt> <p><tt><font size=-1>Usage:</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>        ULISCAN filename</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>        outputs to stdout</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>*/</font></tt> <p><tt><font size=-1>#define L 8</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>#define V (1<<L)</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>#define Q (10*V)</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>#define K (100   *Q)</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>#define MAXSAMP (Q + K)</font></tt> <p><tt><font size=-1>#include <stdio.h></font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>#include <math.h></font></tt> <p><tt><font size=-1>int main(  argc, argv )</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>int argc;</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>char **argv;</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>{</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>FILE *fptr;</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>int i,j;</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>int b, c;</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>int table[V];</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>double sum=0.0;</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>int iproduct=1;</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>int run;</font></tt> <p><tt><font size=-1>extern double   log(/* double x */);</font></tt> <p><tt><font size=-1>printf("Uliscan 21 Dec 98 \nL=%d %d %d \n", L, V, MAXSAMP);</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>if (argc <2)</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>        {printf("Usage: Uliscan filename\n"); exit(-1); }</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>else</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>        printf("Measuring file %s\n", argv[1]);</font></tt> <br>  <p><tt><font size=-1>fptr=fopen(argv[1],"rb");</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>if (fptr == NULL) {printf("Can't find %s\n", argv[1]); exit(-1); }</font></tt> <br>  <p><tt><font size=-1>for (i=0; i<V; i++) table[i]=0;</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>for (i=0; i<Q; i++)     {</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>        b=  fgetc(fptr);</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>        table[ b ]=i;</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>}</font></tt> <p><tt><font size=-1>printf("Init done\n");</font></tt> <p><tt><font size=-1>printf("Expected value for L=8 is  7.1836656\n");</font></tt> <p><tt><font size=-1>run=1;</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1> while (run)</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1> {      sum=0.0;</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>    iproduct=1;</font></tt> <p><tt><font size=-1>        if (run)</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>          for (i=Q;  run && i<Q+K; i++)</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>                {j=i;</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>                b=fgetc(fptr); if (b<0) run=0;</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>                if (run) {</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>                        if (table[b] > j) j += K;</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>                        sum += log( (double) ( j-table[b] ) ) ;</font></tt> <p><tt><font size=-1>                        table[ b ]=i;</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>                }</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>        }</font></tt> <p><tt><font size=-1>        if (!run)       printf("Premature end of file; read %d blocks.\n", i-Q);</font></tt> <p><tt><font size=-1>        sum = (sum/( (double) (i-Q) ) ) /  log(2.0);</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>        printf("%4.4f ", sum);</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>        for (i=0; i< (int) (sum*8.0 + 0.50 ) ; i++)</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>                printf("-");</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>        printf("\n");</font></tt> <p><tt><font size=-1>        /* refill initial table */</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>        if (0) for (i=0; i<Q; i++)      {</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>                b=  fgetc(fptr);</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>                if (b<0) run=0;</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>                else table[ b ]=i;</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>                }</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>   }</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=-1>}</font></tt> <p> <hr WIDTH="100%"> <br><a href="mailto:honig@sprynet.com">honig@sprynet.com</a> <br>25 Apr 99 <br>  <br>  </body> </html> --------------ABFFCDE9F2B656406114F78D-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 26 4: 1:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pappquds.papp.undp.org (pappquds.papp.undp.org [192.115.229.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC89C14C0D for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 04:01:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alsharif@papp.undp.org) Received: from papp.undp.org ([192.115.229.73]) by pappquds.papp.undp.org (8.8.5/96.03.01.0) with ESMTP id MAA10707 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:56:29 +0200 (IST) Message-ID: <3724473C.2E59AD69@papp.undp.org> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:00:12 +0200 From: "Amjad R. Alsharif" <alsharif@papp.undp.org> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Boot Floppies Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Sir/Madam, In the earlier doc. it was very obvious for the user the files needed to creat the boot disk to perform FreeBSD Installation ovet FTP, but now I can only find fdimage.exe and I can not kern.flp nor its hyperlinked for download. Pls, make it available ASAP since I need to run an install on 3.1. Note: sorry if I misunderstood the docs, but the bottom line is, I can not find. Thanks a million. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 26 4:23:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imap.ncsa.es (imap.ncsa.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1508E150D2 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 04:23:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from ender.ncsa.es (ender.ncsa.es [194.179.50.15]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA20422; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:24:14 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <XFMail.990426132236.jesusr@ncsa.es> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3724473C.2E59AD69@papp.undp.org> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:22:36 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez <jesusr@ncsa.es> To: "Amjad R. Alsharif" <alsharif@papp.undp.org> Subject: RE: Boot Floppies Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 26-Apr-99 Amjad R. Alsharif wrote: > Dear Sir/Madam, > > In the earlier doc. it was very obvious for the user the files needed to > creat the boot disk to perform FreeBSD Installation ovet FTP, but now I > can only find fdimage.exe and I can not kern.flp nor its hyperlinked for > download. You can get the boot images (kern.flp and mfsroot.flp) from: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/3.1-RELEASE/floppies/ > Pls, make it available ASAP since I need to run an install on 3.1. > > Note: sorry if I misunderstood the docs, but the bottom line is, I can > not find. You can get that information from: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html and: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/3.1-RELEASE/floppies/README.TXT JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 26 4:28:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pappquds.papp.undp.org (pappquds.papp.undp.org [192.115.229.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1236150B0 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 04:28:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alsharif@papp.undp.org) Received: (from alsharif@localhost) by pappquds.papp.undp.org (8.8.5/96.03.01.0) id NAA10909; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:24:10 +0200 (IST) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:24:09 +0200 (IST) From: "Amjad R. Alsharif" <alsharif@papp.undp.org> To: Jesus Rodriguez <jesusr@ncsa.es> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Boot Floppies In-Reply-To: <XFMail.990426132236.jesusr@ncsa.es> Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.91.990426132015.10618A-100000@pappquds.papp.undp.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: Thank you for your prompt answer and your positive support remarks. Best regards > > On 26-Apr-99 Amjad R. Alsharif wrote: > > Dear Sir/Madam, > > > > In the earlier doc. it was very obvious for the user the files needed to > > creat the boot disk to perform FreeBSD Installation ovet FTP, but now I > > can only find fdimage.exe and I can not kern.flp nor its hyperlinked for > > download. > > You can get the boot images (kern.flp and mfsroot.flp) from: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/3.1-RELEASE/floppies/ > > > Pls, make it available ASAP since I need to run an install on 3.1. > > > > Note: sorry if I misunderstood the docs, but the bottom line is, I can > > not find. > > You can get that information from: > > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html > > and: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/3.1-RELEASE/floppies/README.TXT > > JesusR. > > Best regrads --- Amjad R. Alsharif Network Manager alsharif@papp.undp.org UNDP/PAPP voice 972 2 6277337 Fax 972 2 6280089 --------------- http://www.papp.undp.org ----------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 26 5:54:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail6.svr.pol.co.uk (mail6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3FC714E30 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 05:54:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@eborcom.com) Received: from modem-79.buproprione.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.55.207] ident=[cu8vJrt1M0+muQILuO2hPLMtvChI06+p]) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10bkuQ-0005Xb-00 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:54:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 6148 invoked by uid 5000); 26 Apr 1999 11:53:14 -0000 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:53:14 +0100 From: Tom Hukins <tom@eborcom.com> To: Stewart Heckenberg <stewart.heckenberg@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Link error Message-ID: <19990426125313.A6079@eborcom.com> Mail-Followup-To: Stewart Heckenberg <stewart.heckenberg@studentmail.newcastle.edu.au>, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3.0.5.32.19990418201912.007ce2a0@studentmailbox.newcastle.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990418201912.007ce2a0@studentmailbox.newcastle.edu.au>; from Stewart Heckenberg on Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 08:19:12PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Stewart. On Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 08:19:12PM +1000, Stewart Heckenberg wrote: > > On the main page, the link "Software/Getting FreeBSD" points to the > installation page of the handbook instead of to the page list where you can > get FreeBSD :) The "Installing FreeBSD" section of the Handbook also contains information on how to get FreeBSD. I think the "Getting FreeBSD" link exists on the home page because when the link said "Installing FreeBSD" some people were confused. They didn't realise the link would give them information on how to obtain FreeBSD as well as how to install FreeBSD. > I also noticed that an article you have regarding Linux compatability ask > the reader to refer to a section that is no longer about that topic, > instead Linux compatibility was a couple of sections down the handbook > list. I know you can't keep all the documentation up to date, but perhaps > changing the layout of the handbook might have made things worse if > sections were added/removed/relocated. If you could specify the URL where you found the bad link, that would be very useful. Also, if you could find out the new URL for the Linux compatibility section, that would help. You should probably "send-pr" your findings <http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html>. Almost everyone who maintains FreeBSD's documentation does so as a volunteer, so the best way to see that a problem is fixed is to fix it yourself. > Also, I thought the prevous version of the Handbook had a nicer layout - > why the change? I believe this is being worked on. The reasons for changing the Handbook's format have been discussed at length on the freebsd-doc list recently. You can browse archives of FreeBSD's mailing lists at <http://www.freebsd.org/mail/>. Regards, Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 26 6: 0:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA10F14E30; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 06:00:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA09767; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 06:00:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 06:00:37 -0700 (PDT) From: <wosch@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199904261300.GAA09767@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, wosch@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10684: Update doc: www/en/docproj/translations.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: www/en/docproj/translations.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: wosch State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 26 06:00:16 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: patch applied in www/en/docproj/translations.sgml 1.23 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 26 6: 5:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C5715159; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 06:05:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA10531; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 06:05:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 06:05:31 -0700 (PDT) From: <wosch@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199904261305.GAA10531@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chris@calldei.com, wosch@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11107: [Patch] Typo in www/en/docproj/submitting.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [Patch] Typo in www/en/docproj/submitting.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: wosch State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 26 06:05:10 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: patch applied in www/en/docproj/submitting.sgml rev 1.3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 26 6:12: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E219314DC8; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 06:12:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA11253; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 06:12:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 06:12:02 -0700 (PDT) From: <wosch@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199904261312.GAA11253@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sjr@home.net, wosch@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11240: Update to y2kbug page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update to y2kbug page State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: wosch State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 26 06:11:28 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: patch applied in www/en/y2kbug.sgml rev 1.21 Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 26 6:14:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A9314DC8; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 06:14:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA11483; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 06:14:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 06:14:18 -0700 (PDT) From: <wosch@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199904261314.GAA11483@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/9193: Incorrect release date for FreeBSD 2.0 in handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Incorrect release date for FreeBSD 2.0 in handbook Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->jkh Responsible-Changed-By: wosch Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Apr 26 06:13:52 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Jordan's area To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 26 11: 0:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB3115346 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:00:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA57434 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:00:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904261800.LAA57434@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster <bugmaster@freebsd.org> To: FreeBSD doc list <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1999/02/14] docs/10088 doc Documentation search results 1 problem total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1998/07/29] docs/7437 doc IPFW doco unclear about in/out o [1999/01/22] docs/9618 doc many typos in groff_mm(7) a [1999/02/17] docs/10135 doc Change to Documention Regarding Upgrades o [1999/04/17] docs/11182 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/kernelconfig/chap 4 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [1998/01/15] docs/5487 doc Adding documentation for scsi(8) usage wi o [1998/04/14] docs/6295 doc Reference to nonexistent file in Device D o [1998/04/15] docs/6307 doc sgmlfmt not `make -jN' ready o [1998/05/18] docs/6681 doc docu. addition a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated a [1998/08/31] docs/7791 doc ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ip o [1998/09/13] docs/7914 doc no elf(5) manpage o [1998/10/25] docs/8445 doc Update of "Installing Mathematica on Free a [1998/10/27] docs/8464 doc Missing include file <machine/param.h> wh o [1998/11/02] docs/8547 doc Various updates to authors.sgml, printing o [1998/11/10] docs/8640 doc proposed change of 4.5 o [1998/11/19] docs/8765 doc some suggested text for describing passwo o [1998/11/24] docs/8858 doc man page for accept() is flawed o [1999/01/06] docs/9352 doc wrong macro names in groff_[ms|mm|mmse].7 o [1999/01/12] docs/9455 doc cvsup and ftp server in Czech Republic o [1999/01/24] docs/9658 doc tar(1) SYNOPSIS refinement o [1999/01/26] docs/9707 doc New entry for FAQ o [1999/01/29] docs/9773 doc Handbook 4.7.1.4. "Testing the port" is i o [1999/01/31] docs/9837 doc fix to doc/handbook/porting.sgml o [1999/02/01] docs/9854 doc undocumented ctype functions break stuff o [1999/02/06] docs/9940 doc mt.1 typo (right paren missing, and etc.) o [1999/02/08] docs/9960 doc man page for route doesn't mention defaul o [1999/02/10] docs/10017 doc Added a site and bug fix o [1999/02/11] docs/10038 doc Added a site and bug fix (part two) o [1999/02/14] docs/10084 doc new FreeBSD user group in Yogyakarta City o [1999/02/14] docs/10085 doc NIS Setup Tutorial o [1999/02/14] docs/10098 doc Lack of overall guide for NIS setup o [1999/02/15] docs/10108 doc Addition to fstab.5 o [1999/02/18] docs/10146 doc Release Notes and LINT for 3.1 include ha o [1999/02/21] docs/10180 doc Another mirror site not listed... o [1999/02/21] docs/10182 doc http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?p o [1999/02/25] docs/10240 doc We need a script which check if our web m o [1999/02/25] docs/10256 doc handbook on cvsup... o [1999/03/01] docs/10331 doc pccardd(8) claims FreeBSD does not suppor o [1999/03/03] docs/10378 doc option -s missing in lptcontrol.8 o [1999/03/04] docs/10388 doc Obsolete information in Handbook o [1999/03/05] docs/10403 doc CDE is no longer sold by Xi Graphics. o [1999/03/05] docs/10408 doc [quasi-patch] Grammar nitpicks in Handboo o [1999/03/06] docs/10451 doc EDESTADDRREQ returnable by writev() but n o [1999/03/07] docs/10472 doc Mailing list for discussion of Xircom dri o [1999/03/07] docs/10474 doc A command line in a man document is incom o [1999/03/08] docs/10488 doc Error in entry for 02/27 in calendar.hist o [1999/03/08] docs/10494 doc arp(4) SYNOPSIS non typical expression o [1999/03/08] docs/10495 doc lo(4) SYNOPSIS non typical expression o [1999/03/08] docs/10500 doc spell error o [1999/03/09] docs/10512 doc ENOBUFS returnable from writev(2) but not o [1999/03/09] docs/10517 doc Missing manpage for /usr/bin/gensetdefs ( o [1999/03/16] docs/10624 doc typos/innacuracies in wfd(4) man page o [1999/03/18] docs/10659 doc Many syscall man pages have an IMPLEMENTA o [1999/03/18] docs/10660 doc User Group not listed o [1999/03/18] docs/10664 doc Notes on 2.2.8 -> 3.1 migration o [1999/03/21] docs/10704 doc strange sentence in doc/handbook/ctm.sgml a [1999/03/21] docs/10708 doc meteor.4 man page documentation problem. o [1999/03/23] docs/10762 doc geocrawler.com mailing list archives o [1999/03/24] docs/10771 doc [PATCH] ftpd manpage missing -A in synops o [1999/03/25] docs/10794 doc [Patch] typo in da(4) man page o [1999/03/27] docs/10819 doc Documentation add o [1999/03/28] docs/10840 doc [PATCH] Add pcic double-loading bug fix t o [1999/03/28] docs/10841 doc typos in man page screen.4 (c -> n) o [1999/03/28] docs/10847 doc lpbb.4's PostScript output format is brok o [1999/03/29] docs/10850 doc submitting a documentation change for sed o [1999/03/30] docs/10877 doc manpage for objformat incorrectly mention o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/04/07] docs/11011 doc missing man page for arc4 related functio o [1999/04/07] docs/11015 doc handbook/mirrors-ftp.html missing NZ serv o [1999/04/08] docs/11028 doc new text for FAQ to explain branches o [1999/04/11] docs/11087 doc Portland FreeBSD users group o [1999/04/11] docs/11089 doc freebsd user group, sydney o [1999/04/11] docs/11090 doc User's group in Melbourne Australia o [1999/04/12] docs/11098 doc FAQ Update: Database systems for FreeBSD o [1999/04/12] docs/11102 doc [Patch] Handbook: Minor spelling correcti o [1999/04/12] docs/11105 doc My address in "submitters" section of han o [1999/04/15] docs/11150 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/security/chapters o [1999/04/15] docs/11153 doc [Patch] en/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml is o [1999/04/17] docs/11184 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/eresources/chapte o [1999/04/17] docs/11190 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/introduction/chap o [1999/04/19] docs/11215 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/disks/chapter.sgm o [1999/04/20] docs/11233 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/preface.sgml o [1999/04/20] docs/11234 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/install.sgml o [1999/04/21] docs/11258 doc suggestion to refine npx.4 80 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 26 18:40:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEB71542E for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:40:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA03454; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:40:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422C31536B for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:31:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from naddy@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from mips.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id DAA07130 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 03:31:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from naddy@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de ([193.197.90.235]) by mips.rhein-neckar.de with esmtp id m10bveN-000WyUC (Debian Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #2); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:22:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from naddy@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA24578; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:22:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from naddy) Message-Id: <199904270022.CAA24578@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:22:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de> Reply-To: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11347: tcopy.1 refers to pre-CAM device Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11347 >Category: docs >Synopsis: tcopy.1 refers to pre-CAM device >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Apr 26 18:40:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Christian Weisgerber >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The tcopy.1 man page still refers to "/dev/rst0" as the default device, rather than "/dev/rsa0". tcopy itself correctly uses the new CAM device. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- tcopy.1.orig Tue Apr 27 02:15:37 1999 +++ tcopy.1 Tue Apr 27 02:15:54 1999 @@ -49,7 +49,7 @@ about the tape is that there are two tape marks at the end. .Nm Tcopy with only a source tape -.Pf ( Ar /dev/rst0 +.Pf ( Ar /dev/rsa0 by default) specified will print information about the sizes of records and tape files. If a destination is specified a copy will be made of the source tape. The blocking on the >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 26 20:30: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9FFD14E00 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id UAA12615; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from istari.home.net (cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com [24.3.25.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1778E14DC2 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:23:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sjr@home.net) Received: (from sjr@localhost) by istari.home.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA38224; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:23:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sjr) Message-Id: <199904270323.XAA38224@istari.home.net> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:23:37 -0400 (EDT) From: sjr@home.net Reply-To: sjr@home.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11348: Correction to previous Y2K information Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11348 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Correction to previous Y2K information >Confidential: no >Severity: critical >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Apr 26 20:30:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Stephen J. Roznowski >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: I misread the CVS log for the inn port problem. It isn't fixed yet, so this line needs to be deleted. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- y2kbug.sgml.orig Mon Apr 26 23:20:31 1999 +++ y2kbug.sgml Mon Apr 26 23:20:51 1999 @@ -210,7 +210,6 @@ <dd>INN 1.7.2 suffers from 2 Y2K related problems. One occurs when pulling news (-f option to nntpget) and the other relates to the Expire header with relative dates past 2000. - [Fixed v1.30(both inn and inn-stable) 1999/01/13] </dd> <dt><a href="http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=9298">ports/9298</a></dt> >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 27 0:52:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737B415222 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 00:51:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.12]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA22268; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:45:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.0) id JAA05785; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:45:51 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19990427094550.A5706@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:45:50 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider <wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de> To: David Honig <honig@sprynet.com>, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How To Verify your IPsec functionality References: <3723D362.851D7619@sprynet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <3723D362.851D7619@sprynet.com>; from David Honig on Sun, Apr 25, 1999 at 07:45:54PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-04-25 19:45:54 -0700, David Honig wrote: > I've attached an HTML doc describing how to use tcpdump > and an entropy measurment to verify that IPsec is working. Is your IPsec doc also available on the web? -- Wolfram Schneider <wosch@freebsd.org> http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 27 2: 8:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.unilat.com (mail.unilat.com [206.132.217.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E8114ED9; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:08:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhaas@unilat.com) Received: from unilate.com [38.27.175.93] by mail.unilat.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id AF0917B012A; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:10:33 PDT From: rhaas@unilat.com To: rhaas@unilat.com Subject: Attention: Coupon fraud alert! Message-Id: <199904270210.SM00153@unilate.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:12:19 PDT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please forward this article. Texas Textbooks Coupon Fraud "On or Off the Drag" by Richard Haas Texas Textbooks, Inc. may have conspired to commit coupon fraud against 7-UP/Dr. Pepper. Sources claim that the President of Texas Textbooks, Inc., Morris Woods, instructed managers to have his employees separate coupons and candies from Buy Back Promotional Packages, that were put together by Market Source, Inc., and www.taponline.com. Within the Buy Back Promotional Packages were various candies, gum, and a coupon for a free 20 oz. 7-UP, as well as other advertisements and promotions from various companies, such as Chevy, University Subscription Service, Citibank, American Airlines, TIME magazine, Student Financial Services, BMG Music Service, and Sprint. According to sources, the 7-UP coupons and candied were separated and put into boxes, while the rest of the packages were thrown into the dumpster behind Texas Textbooks. These Buy Back Promotional Packages were supposed to have been given to students during the Fall Buy Back season during finals week in December, 1998. The marketing company behind the packages, Market Source, Inc. was notified about the problem in early January, 1999, but refused to do anything about it. Woods, when telephone regarding the alleged coupon fraud against 7-UP/Dr.Pepper, denied having any knowledge of the incident, and hung up the the telephone on a reporter. Several former employees claimed that they were threatened with being fired when they refused to participate in the separation of the items. "Committing a possible felony is not worth five dollars an hour," said a former employee. Seven Up/Dr. Pepper, University Subscription Service, Sprint, Chevrolet Motor Company, and the Coupon Information Center (CIC) have also been notified of these activities. Fraud is a crime punishable under both state and federal laws. Under Federal Law, a person convicted of mail fraud can be sentenced up to five years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000 for each count of the indictment. In cases where the proceeds of the fraud are not reported for Federal Income Tax purposes, conviction of tax evasion is punishable by up to 20 years imprisonment and up to a million dollar fine for each count. Photos available at: http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Node/8879/fraud.htm If you would like to express your concern about this, please contact: Morris Woods President, Texas Textbooks, Inc. 1514 Parker Ln Austin, TX 78741-2563 (512) 462-2149 gsdesign@studybreaks.com Texas Textbooks 2410B E. Riverside Drive Austin, TX 78741 (512) 443-1257 Texas Textbooks 2338 Guadalupe Austin, TX 78705 (512) 478-9833 Bonnie O'Neill-Totin boneill@marketsource.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 27 8:45: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8628A15639 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:44:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.12]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA18944 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:40:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.0) id RAA25458 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:40:01 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19990427174001.A25285@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:40:01 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider <wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de> To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: [wilsonb@clarkson.edu: Encouragement of FreeBSD users to pressure VMWare to port their software to FreeBSD] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Forwarded message from Brian Wilson <wilsonb@clarkson.edu> ----- Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:38:08 -0400 From: Brian Wilson <wilsonb@clarkson.edu> To: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Encouragement of FreeBSD users to pressure VMWare to port their software to FreeBSD Hello, If it would be possible to somewhere on the freebsd.org website encourage FreeBSD users to email VMWare and pressure them to port their software to FreeBSD, or do you think there is a better place to encourage users to do this. Sorry if this mail should have gone to someone other than yourself, but I didn't know where else to send it. Thanks Brian Wilson ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Wolfram Schneider <wosch@freebsd.org> http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 27 9:35:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.mindspring.com (smtp2.mindspring.com [207.69.200.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E187C15659 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:35:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from honig@sprynet.com) Received: from maryanne (user-38ldi2j.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.200.83]) by smtp2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA06100; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:34:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990427092640.007e9400@m7.sprynet.com> X-Sender: honig@m7.sprynet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:26:40 -0700 To: Wolfram Schneider <wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de>, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Honig <honig@sprynet.com> Subject: Re: How To Verify your IPsec functionality In-Reply-To: <19990427094550.A5706@cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <3723D362.851D7619@sprynet.com> <3723D362.851D7619@sprynet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:45 AM 4/27/99 +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: >On 1999-04-25 19:45:54 -0700, David Honig wrote: >> I've attached an HTML doc describing how to use tcpdump >> and an entropy measurment to verify that IPsec is working. > >Is your IPsec doc also available on the web? No, I haven't set up a page for my BSD tinkerings yet. While I might eventually, I thought the proper place might be in some *BSD/*NIX official collection, e.g., the newbies pages or security tips. Apologies if this went to the wrong list. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 27 11:18:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715A215648 for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:18:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA28617; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 04:18:05 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19990428041803.A28581@caamora.com.au> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 04:18:04 +1000 From: jonathan michaels <jon@caamora.com.au> To: Wolfram Schneider <wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de>, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Brian Wilson <wilsonb@clarkson.edu> Subject: Re: [wilsonb@clarkson.edu: Encouragement of FreeBSD users to pressure VMWare to port their software to FreeBSD] Mail-Followup-To: Wolfram Schneider <wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de>, doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Brian Wilson <wilsonb@clarkson.edu> References: <19990427174001.A25285@cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19990427174001.A25285@cs.tu-berlin.de>; from Wolfram Schneider on Tue, Apr 27, 1999 at 05:40:01PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Apr 27, 1999 at 05:40:01PM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from Brian Wilson <wilsonb@clarkson.edu> ----- > Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:38:08 -0400 > From: Brian Wilson <wilsonb@clarkson.edu> > To: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Encouragement of FreeBSD users to pressure VMWare to port their software > to FreeBSD > > Hello, > If it would be possible to somewhere on the freebsd.org website > encourage FreeBSD users to email VMWare and pressure them to port their > software to FreeBSD, or do you think there is a better place to how much would a licence cost for a single user platform ? oops i should have asked what does it have to do with document preprations, i'm looking for a small editor, bigger than ee, but much small and less resource hungrey than emacs. > encourage users to do this. Sorry if this mail should have gone to > someone other than yourself, but I didn't know where else to send it. what is vmware ? what does it do ? i am also looking for someway to index small text documents, as part of a docbook environment .. about 400 a4'ish pages, that would be american quarto with slightly bigger margins, of sorts. regards jonathan ... toy book builder > Thanks > Brian Wilson > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > -- > Wolfram Schneider <wosch@freebsd.org> http://wolfram.schneider.org > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia ===========================================================<jon@caamora.com.au> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 27 12:47:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.iolusa.com (132.integrityonline9.com [209.140.129.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4DD81547D for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:47:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from samual97972@aol.com) Received: from gte.net [207.201.65.85] by mail.iolusa.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A2402460076; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:38:40 MST Message-ID: <47767.82191@gte.net> From: samual97972@aol.com <samual97972@aol.com> Reply-To: twenty@aol.com Subject: Celebrity Art Brings $5 Million $ Collection Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:26:01 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org StockNetworking News SNN If you are not a subscriber and received this issue of SNN in error please see how to unsubscribe below. We are enclosing the latest Wcollect.com (WCLT) News Release. News Release April 27, 1999 Celebrity Art Brings $5 Million Dollar Collection of Entertainment Art and Memorabilia Online in Strategic Partnership with WCollect.com BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. - April 27, 1999 - WCollect.com (OTCBB: WCLT) a leading E-commerce site has recently joined forces with Celebrity Art to bring their highly regarded collection of art and memorabilia, valued at over $5,000,000, online. Recently cited in Entertainment Weekly, WCollect.com has been receiving growing media attention for establishing a unique online auction and gallery store specializing in offering authentic art, sports and entertainment collectibles through partnerships with a broad base of dealers, store owners and private collectors. Celebrity Art, was once a small private collection, that had been assembled by Neil Glaser to decorate his home located in Litchfield County, an affluent area in the northeastern United States. Today, Glaser is recognized as one of the leading dealers and experts in this marketplace. His keen eye and personal relationships with celebrities give him access to unusual items that are highly sought after by the most discriminating buyers. These investment quality collectibles range from $100 to over $50,000. The main thrust of the "Celebrity Art Collection" is original and limited edition art created by entertainment icons. A partial listing of these celebrity artist include: John Lennon and Yoko Ono, Jerry Garcia, John Entwistle, Jimi Hendrix, Ron Wood, Tony Bennett, David Bowie, Red Skelton, Charles Bronson, Phyllis Diller, Jay Leno, Tony Curtis, Jerry Lewis and even Sylvester Stallone. In addition to "celebrity artists" the collection also contains a large volume of, what Neal Glaser calls, "celebrated artists" which includes artwork by Norman Rockwell, Tarkay, Peter Max, Thomas McKnight, Leroy Neiman and Al Hirschfeld. The eclectic mix of authentic celebrity items includes limited edition, illustrated and signed, song lyrics by John Lennon, Peter Yarrow, Paul Williams, Graham Nash and Carol King. According to Glaser, "These are among my most popular collectibles. These make great gifts because of the sentiments written the lyrics which often remind individuals or couples of an important time in their life." An avid Beatles fan, Neal Glaser has accumulated a massive assortment of Beatles items. He calls this part of his collection, "my own Beatle- mania." Glaser feels, "that there is no better time to begin or add to a collection of Beatles art or memorabilia. Loyal fans continually seek authentic Beatles collectibles the value of these items have skyrocketed!". Celebrity Art has over 1,000 Beatles related pieces from serigraphs by John Lennon, rare photos by Linda McCartney, signed lyrics, Beatles concert tickets and autographed items and signed photos. In addition to the Beatles collectibles, there are autographed photos, signed checks, historical paper documents and an assortment of other authentic memorabilia from entertainment legends such as: Audrey Hepburn, Madonna, Jacqueline Kennedy, Pavarotti, Elvis, Groucho, Tom Hanks, Tom Cruise, Mick Jagger and The Rolling Stones. A selection of cast photos, are available, signed by the entire cast from hit "sitcoms" including: Frasier, Seinfeld, Home Improvement, The Honeymooners and other current shows. WCollect.com will feature the most unusual and unique items from the "Celebrity Art Collection." both in their auction and Gallery Store sites. How to Unsubscribe from SNN If you wish to unsubscribe to SNN please send an e-mail with the word 'delete' in the subject line and again please make sure the address is the original address this letter was sent to and send it to: 202099@axion.net Contact: Arne Carlson, Investor Relations 1.877.608.1611 Email: investors@wcollect.com For a current stock quote and past News Releases on WCollect.com, just go to: http://quote.yahoo.com/q?s=wclt&d=t Disclaimer - SNN or its owners may have a position in and/or be paid a fee by any of the companies it mentions. SNN is NOT a registered investment advisor. SNN advises its readers to always check companies themselves or with a registered advisor or stock broker before buying ANY stock. Most if not all of the companies SNN writes about are companies at the start-up stage and have little no operating history. This makes them a very high risk investment. 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SNN copyright SNN 1999 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 27 12:47:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.iolusa.com (132.integrityonline9.com [209.140.129.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C7915665 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:47:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from samual43410@aol.com) Received: from gte.net [207.201.65.85] by mail.iolusa.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A2512820148; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:38:57 MST Message-ID: <48618.45306@gte.net> From: samual43410@aol.com <samual43410@aol.com> Reply-To: stella@aol.com Subject: Celebrity Art Brings $5 Million $ Collection Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:26:19 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org StockNetworking News SNN If you are not a subscriber and received this issue of SNN in error please see how to unsubscribe below. We are enclosing the latest Wcollect.com (WCLT) News Release. News Release April 27, 1999 Celebrity Art Brings $5 Million Dollar Collection of Entertainment Art and Memorabilia Online in Strategic Partnership with WCollect.com BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. - April 27, 1999 - WCollect.com (OTCBB: WCLT) a leading E-commerce site has recently joined forces with Celebrity Art to bring their highly regarded collection of art and memorabilia, valued at over $5,000,000, online. Recently cited in Entertainment Weekly, WCollect.com has been receiving growing media attention for establishing a unique online auction and gallery store specializing in offering authentic art, sports and entertainment collectibles through partnerships with a broad base of dealers, store owners and private collectors. Celebrity Art, was once a small private collection, that had been assembled by Neil Glaser to decorate his home located in Litchfield County, an affluent area in the northeastern United States. Today, Glaser is recognized as one of the leading dealers and experts in this marketplace. His keen eye and personal relationships with celebrities give him access to unusual items that are highly sought after by the most discriminating buyers. These investment quality collectibles range from $100 to over $50,000. The main thrust of the "Celebrity Art Collection" is original and limited edition art created by entertainment icons. A partial listing of these celebrity artist include: John Lennon and Yoko Ono, Jerry Garcia, John Entwistle, Jimi Hendrix, Ron Wood, Tony Bennett, David Bowie, Red Skelton, Charles Bronson, Phyllis Diller, Jay Leno, Tony Curtis, Jerry Lewis and even Sylvester Stallone. In addition to "celebrity artists" the collection also contains a large volume of, what Neal Glaser calls, "celebrated artists" which includes artwork by Norman Rockwell, Tarkay, Peter Max, Thomas McKnight, Leroy Neiman and Al Hirschfeld. The eclectic mix of authentic celebrity items includes limited edition, illustrated and signed, song lyrics by John Lennon, Peter Yarrow, Paul Williams, Graham Nash and Carol King. According to Glaser, "These are among my most popular collectibles. These make great gifts because of the sentiments written the lyrics which often remind individuals or couples of an important time in their life." An avid Beatles fan, Neal Glaser has accumulated a massive assortment of Beatles items. He calls this part of his collection, "my own Beatle- mania." Glaser feels, "that there is no better time to begin or add to a collection of Beatles art or memorabilia. Loyal fans continually seek authentic Beatles collectibles the value of these items have skyrocketed!". Celebrity Art has over 1,000 Beatles related pieces from serigraphs by John Lennon, rare photos by Linda McCartney, signed lyrics, Beatles concert tickets and autographed items and signed photos. In addition to the Beatles collectibles, there are autographed photos, signed checks, historical paper documents and an assortment of other authentic memorabilia from entertainment legends such as: Audrey Hepburn, Madonna, Jacqueline Kennedy, Pavarotti, Elvis, Groucho, Tom Hanks, Tom Cruise, Mick Jagger and The Rolling Stones. A selection of cast photos, are available, signed by the entire cast from hit "sitcoms" including: Frasier, Seinfeld, Home Improvement, The Honeymooners and other current shows. WCollect.com will feature the most unusual and unique items from the "Celebrity Art Collection." both in their auction and Gallery Store sites. How to Unsubscribe from SNN If you wish to unsubscribe to SNN please send an e-mail with the word 'delete' in the subject line and again please make sure the address is the original address this letter was sent to and send it to: 202099@axion.net Contact: Arne Carlson, Investor Relations 1.877.608.1611 Email: investors@wcollect.com For a current stock quote and past News Releases on WCollect.com, just go to: http://quote.yahoo.com/q?s=wclt&d=t Disclaimer - SNN or its owners may have a position in and/or be paid a fee by any of the companies it mentions. SNN is NOT a registered investment advisor. SNN advises its readers to always check companies themselves or with a registered advisor or stock broker before buying ANY stock. Most if not all of the companies SNN writes about are companies at the start-up stage and have little no operating history. This makes them a very high risk investment. Anyone who buys any of the stocks mentioned in the SNN letter could lose some or possibly all of their investment. Past performance of the stocks we have profiled does not reflect on future performance of featured stocks in SNN. SNN copyright SNN 1999 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 27 15: 9:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0B414CF9 for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:09:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA12225; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:08:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:08:42 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" <fullermd@futuresouth.com> To: Wolfram Schneider <wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de> Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [wilsonb@clarkson.edu: Encouragement of FreeBSD users to pressure VMWare to port their software to FreeBSD] Message-ID: <19990427170842.Q1229@futuresouth.com> References: <19990427174001.A25285@cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <19990427174001.A25285@cs.tu-berlin.de>; from Wolfram Schneider on Tue, Apr 27, 1999 at 05:40:01PM +0200 X-OS: FreeBSD <http://www.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Apr 27, 1999 at 05:40:01PM +0200, a little birdie told me that Wolfram Schneider remarked > ----- Forwarded message from Brian Wilson <wilsonb@clarkson.edu> ----- > Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:38:08 -0400 > From: Brian Wilson <wilsonb@clarkson.edu> > To: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Encouragement of FreeBSD users to pressure VMWare to port their software > to FreeBSD > > Hello, > If it would be possible to somewhere on the freebsd.org website > encourage FreeBSD users to email VMWare and pressure them to port their > software to FreeBSD, or do you think there is a better place to > encourage users to do this. Sorry if this mail should have gone to > someone other than yourself, but I didn't know where else to send it. I think a generalize form of this might not be a bad idea. A page of 'Commercial software we want', with places to 'add your signature' to a petition or some such, so we can have hard numbers to throw at the various vendors. Or at least listing email/phone/snailmail/etc contacts to request a FreeBSD version. -- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | Matthew Fuller MF4839 http://www.over-yonder.net/ | * fullermd@futuresouth.com fullermd@over-yonder.net * | UNIX Systems Administrator Specializing in FreeBSD | * FutureSouth Communications ISPHelp ISP Consulting * | "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, | * is because I haven't figured out how to light the * | middle yet" | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 27 19:50:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C6114E83; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:50:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA02612; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:50:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:50:42 -0700 (PDT) From: <ghelmer@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199904280250.TAA02612@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cagney@tpgi.com.au, ghelmer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/7437: IPFW doco unclear about in/out Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: IPFW doco unclear about in/out State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Tue Apr 27 21:49:46 CDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Changed the ipfw(8) man page in -CURRENT to reflect desired information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 27 22:10:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C9814FC9; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:10:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA13284; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:10:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:10:54 -0700 (PDT) From: <jkoshy@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199904280510.WAA13284@freefall.freebsd.org> To: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de, jkoshy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11347: tcopy.1 refers to pre-CAM device Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: tcopy.1 refers to pre-CAM device State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Tue Apr 27 22:09:30 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Closed in rev 1.3 of "src/usr.bin/tcopy/tcopy.1", thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 28 10: 8:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail10.svr.pol.co.uk (mail10.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0C615750 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:08:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@eborcom.com) Received: from modem-102.terbium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.32.102] ident=[VGRaa3sDcYFx7BQbnmfECE2VHhradhep]) by mail10.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10cWBE-0005Ey-00 for doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:23:21 +0100 Received: (qmail 1627 invoked by uid 5000); 28 Apr 1999 11:15:51 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:15:51 +0100 From: Tom Hukins <tom@eborcom.com> To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: wilsonb@clarkson.edu, "Matthew D. Fuller" <fullermd@futuresouth.com> Subject: Re: [wilsonb@clarkson.edu: Encouragement of FreeBSD users to pressure VMWare to port their software to FreeBSD] Message-ID: <19990428121551.B595@eborcom.com> Mail-Followup-To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, wilsonb@clarkson.edu, "Matthew D. Fuller" <fullermd@futuresouth.com> References: <19990427174001.A25285@cs.tu-berlin.de> <19990427170842.Q1229@futuresouth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990427170842.Q1229@futuresouth.com>; from Matthew D. Fuller on Tue, Apr 27, 1999 at 05:08:42PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Apr 27, 1999 at 05:08:42PM -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > > ----- Forwarded message from Brian Wilson <wilsonb@clarkson.edu> ----- > > > > If it would be possible to somewhere on the freebsd.org website > > encourage FreeBSD users to email VMWare and pressure them to port their > > software to FreeBSD, or do you think there is a better place to > > encourage users to do this. Sorry if this mail should have gone to > > someone other than yourself, but I didn't know where else to send it. > > I think a generalize form of this might not be a bad idea. A page of > 'Commercial software we want', with places to 'add your signature' to a > petition or some such, so we can have hard numbers to throw at the > various vendors. Or at least listing email/phone/snailmail/etc contacts > to request a FreeBSD version. Whilst I think it would be very useful to gauge the demand for various commercial packages on FreeBSD, I think it is very important to be careful how we go about this. The company in question should be asked before we go ahead and put a message like this on the Web site. Many companies would not appreciate large numbers of people contacting them about the same issue. I would much rather have one person explain an issue to me than have fifty people mention an issue to me. Besides, I expect people who really care about a FreeBSD port of VMWare will have already contacted the company. They won't need asking. Regards, Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 28 12:35: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns.drew.pvt.k12.ca.us (ns.drew.pvt.k12.ca.us [205.134.251.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F2E14FD5 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:35:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from west@apple-chapel.com) Received: from apple-chapel.com (lemon.drew.pvt.k12.ca.us [205.134.251.34]) by ns.drew.pvt.k12.ca.us (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15505 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37275F98.2BF9AA74@apple-chapel.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:20:56 -0700 From: west <west@apple-chapel.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: bad link Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org just going over the articles (again) in "freebSD in the press" and thought I should point out that: RhapsodyOS 10-June-1998, Stone's Throw, Issue Fourteen Home of the Brave, Land of the FreeBSD , by Andrew Stone no longer refers to the article. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 28 13: 7:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1164314EAD for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:07:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23359; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:07:08 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:07:08 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" <fullermd@futuresouth.com> To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, wilsonb@clarkson.edu Subject: Re: [wilsonb@clarkson.edu: Encouragement of FreeBSD users to pressure VMWare to port their software to FreeBSD] Message-ID: <19990428150708.A23085@futuresouth.com> References: <19990427174001.A25285@cs.tu-berlin.de> <19990427170842.Q1229@futuresouth.com> <19990428121551.B595@eborcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <19990428121551.B595@eborcom.com>; from Tom Hukins on Wed, Apr 28, 1999 at 12:15:51PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD <http://www.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Apr 28, 1999 at 12:15:51PM +0100, a little birdie told me that Tom Hukins remarked > > Whilst I think it would be very useful to gauge the demand for > various commercial packages on FreeBSD, I think it is very important > to be careful how we go about this. The company in question should > be asked before we go ahead and put a message like this on the Web > site. > > Many companies would not appreciate large numbers of people > contacting them about the same issue. I would much rather have one > person explain an issue to me than have fifty people mention an > issue to me. Certainly the company should be told. The 'flood of messages' is one reason I proposed some sort of a 'petition' or 'signup database' instead of just a 'click here to send a form mail'. It would let us at least have some hard numbers to throw around. Yes, I'm quite aware of the rather, ah, 'mottled' history initiatives like this have in regards to working. But I think it's at least a step in the right direction. -- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | Matthew Fuller MF4839 http://www.over-yonder.net/ | * fullermd@futuresouth.com fullermd@over-yonder.net * | UNIX Systems Administrator Specializing in FreeBSD | * FutureSouth Communications ISPHelp ISP Consulting * | "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, | * is because I haven't figured out how to light the * | middle yet" | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 28 19:32:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from aauu.aaweber.com (cs9343-148.austin.rr.com [24.93.43.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028F814C39; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:32:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aaweber@austin.rr.com) Received: (from aaweber@localhost) by aauu.aaweber.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA21955; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:32:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:32:47 -0500 From: Alan Weber <aaweber@austin.rr.com> To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@aauu.aaweber.com Subject: FreeBSD Cook Book Message-ID: <19990428213247.A21918@austin.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have done some more work on my Cook Book Idea. I have put up a web page at http://home.austin.rr.com/aaweber/CookBook/cookbook.html to demonstrate in a more detailed manner what I have in mind. I would appreciate any feedback that people might have regarding this idea. I am trying to make something that will fit in with the style of the current FreeBSD site. -- When I was a kid I had to rub sticks together to multiply and divide numbers. A calculator was a job description. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 28 19:33:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from aauu.aaweber.com (cs9343-148.austin.rr.com [24.93.43.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F39C14E8D; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:33:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aaweber@austin.rr.com) Received: (from aaweber@localhost) by aauu.aaweber.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA21966; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:33:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:33:52 -0500 From: Alan Weber <aweber@austin.rr.com> To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@aauu.aaweber.com Subject: FreeBSD Cook Book Message-ID: <19990428213247.A21918@austin.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have done some more work on my Cook Book Idea. I have put up a web page at http://home.austin.rr.com/aaweber/CookBook/cookbook.html to demonstrate in a more detailed manner what I have in mind. I would appreciate any feedback that people might have regarding this idea. I am trying to make something that will fit in with the style of the current FreeBSD site. -- When I was a kid I had to rub sticks together to multiply and divide numbers. A calculator was a job description. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 28 19:34:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from aauu.aaweber.com (cs9343-148.austin.rr.com [24.93.43.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F96C14FA3; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:34:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aaweber@austin.rr.com) Received: (from aaweber@localhost) by aauu.aaweber.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA21977; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:34:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:34:25 -0500 From: Alan Weber <aweber@austin.rr.com> To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@aauu.aaweber.com Subject: FreeBSD Cook Book Message-ID: <19990428213247.A21918@austin.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have done some more work on my Cook Book Idea. I have put up a web page at http://home.austin.rr.com/aaweber/CookBook/cookbook.html to demonstrate in a more detailed manner what I have in mind. I would appreciate any feedback that people might have regarding this idea. I am trying to make something that will fit in with the style of the current FreeBSD site. -- When I was a kid I had to rub sticks together to multiply and divide numbers. A calculator was a job description. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 28 22:50: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEEB157C9 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA05828; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from kaa.kfunigraz.ac.at (KAA-ATM.kfunigraz.ac.at [143.50.202.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27DF157F0 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:48:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dada@balu.kfunigraz.ac.at) Received: from balu.kfunigraz.ac.at (balu [143.50.16.16]) by kaa.kfunigraz.ac.at (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA15667 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:47:46 +0200 (MDT) Received: from localhost.kfunigraz.ac.at (IDENT:viwj3Xb+u/q8qpWvSza/LnruhfA9RONM@BONLINEA69.kfunigraz.ac.at [143.50.36.69]) by balu.kfunigraz.ac.at (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA19542 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:48:20 +0200 (MDT) Received: (from dada@localhost) by localhost.kfunigraz.ac.at (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02562; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:37:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dada) Message-Id: <199904281037.MAA02562@localhost.kfunigraz.ac.at> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:37:13 +0200 (CEST) From: dada@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at Reply-To: dada@balu.kfunigraz.ac.at To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11378: typo in termios(4) manpage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11378 >Category: docs >Synopsis: typo in termios(4) manpage >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Apr 28 22:50:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Martin Kammerhofer >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386 >Organization: Graz University of Technology >Environment: >Description: Reference to setsid(2) does not print because troff macro .Xr is misspelled. >How-To-Repeat: man termios >Fix: --- /termios.4.orig Sat Jun 27 03:38:05 1998 +++ ./termios.4 Wed Apr 28 12:25:08 1999 @@ -142,7 +142,7 @@ .Xr fork 2 function call. A process relinquishes its controlling terminal when it creates a new session with the -.Xd setsid 2 +.Xr setsid 2 function; other processes remaining in the old session that had this terminal as their controlling terminal continue to have it. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 29 1: 2:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5594014C07; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 01:02:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id BAA11249; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 01:02:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 01:02:18 -0700 (PDT) From: <jkoshy@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199904290802.BAA11249@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dada@balu.kfunigraz.ac.at, jkoshy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11378: typo in termios(4) manpage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: typo in termios(4) manpage State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Thu Apr 29 01:01:22 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in rev 1.9 of "src/share/man/man4/termios.4", thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 29 9:13:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE3C158A9 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:12:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sharstro@bellatlantic.net) Received: from bellatlantic.net (client-116-142.bellatlantic.net [151.198.116.142]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA01492 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:15:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3728767B.221702C6@bellatlantic.net> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:10:51 -0400 From: Sharon Strojny <sharstro@bellatlantic.net> Reply-To: sharstro@bellatlantic.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: hello Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello, i need help downloading this To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 29 13:36:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DBE914CA2; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:36:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA21692; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:36:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:36:48 -0700 (PDT) From: <ghelmer@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199904292036.NAA21692@freefall.freebsd.org> To: info@highwind.com, ghelmer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8858: man page for accept() is flawed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: man page for accept() is flawed State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Thu Apr 29 13:36:24 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 29 14:55:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C5515034; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:55:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA26661; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:55:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:55:53 -0700 (PDT) From: <ghelmer@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199904292155.OAA26661@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ada@noether.geekgirl.depressed.net, ghelmer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/9854: undocumented ctype functions break stuff Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: undocumented ctype functions break stuff State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Thu Apr 29 14:55:22 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Added the noted macros to the ctype(3) man page. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 29 18:40:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C1B14DFD; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:40:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from foxfair@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from foxfair@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA38310; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:40:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from foxfair@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:40:53 -0700 (PDT) From: <foxfair@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199904300140.SAA38310@freefall.freebsd.org> To: joes@shasta.wstein.com, foxfair@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11105: My address in "submitters" section of handbook is wrong. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: My address in "submitters" section of handbook is wrong. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: foxfair State-Changed-When: Thu Apr 29 18:38:59 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 29 19:28: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from etri.re.kr (mail.etri.re.kr [129.254.9.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56CF14F0B for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:27:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kimch@etri.re.kr) Received: from etri.re.kr (kimch.etri.re.kr [129.254.191.142]) by etri.re.kr (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14819 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:24:21 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <3729160E.9146C609@etri.re.kr> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:31:43 +0900 From: Changhoon Kim <kimch@etri.re.kr> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Access to archives Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Howdy ! My name is Changhoon Kim, and I'm interested in ATM on FreeBSD, DiffServ on FreeBSD and RSVP on FreeBSD. Anyway, I want to access two archives, freebsd-atm & freebsd-net via www.freebsd.org's search page. But I just could get a following message. "The specified message cannot be accessed." What's wrong with me or you ? Have I been rejected from your page ? Currently, I'm not a member of any kind of freebsd mailinglists and I've never left my log or information in your web site. Should I join some of them to access the archives ? TIA, and bye. -- ========================================================== Changhoon Kim Internet Technology Research Dept. Switching & Transmission Technology Lab. Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute(ETRI) 161 Kajong-dong, Yusong-gu, Taejon, 305-350, KOREA Tel: (Office) +82-42-860-5801, (Cell) +82-19-226-6305 E-mail: kimch@etri.re.kr * All Smiles, Everywhere and Everytime ! =========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 29 20: 8:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zeus.bresnan.net (zeus.bresnan.net [206.25.127.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EEBC14D66 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:08:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rdla@bresnanlink.net) Received: from richard-miller.bresnanlink.net ([12.21.84.123]) by zeus.bresnan.net (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA18718 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:05:04 -0400 Message-ID: <000701be92ae$c511de80$7b54150c@richard-miller.bresnanlink.net> From: "Deb Miller" <rdla@bresnanlink.net> To: <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: help this stuff confuses me Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:11:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE928D.2EAEBC40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE928D.2EAEBC40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To anyone, I need help installing freebsd to my pentium 75. The set up is very = confusing and I am getting no where fast and getting a head ach at the = same time. I do know how to run unix based operating systems, it is the = set up that I have a hard time dealling with. I have a boot diskm, so... = If there is anyone kind enough to direct my to the nearst ftp site so i = can start downloading. Thanx, Luke Miller, Bored Tech Executive Officer. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE928D.2EAEBC40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>To anyone,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I need help installing freebsd to my = pentium 75.=20 The set up is very confusing and I am getting no where fast and getting = a head=20 ach at the same time. I do know how to run unix based operating systems, = it is=20 the set up that I have a hard time dealling with. I have a boot diskm, = so... If=20 there is anyone kind enough to direct my to the nearst ftp site so i can = start=20 downloading.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thanx,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Luke Miller, Bored Tech Executive = Officer.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE928D.2EAEBC40-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 29 21:43:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from vanessa.eliuk.org (sec3d21.dial.uniserve.ca [204.244.165.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41047153E1 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:43:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by vanessa.eliuk.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA01392 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:43:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cagey@vanessa.eliuk.org) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:43:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kevin G. Eliuk" <kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net> To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Update DEC DE435 to DE450 Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9904292128180.670-100000@vanessa.eliuk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am sorry for not supplying diff's for the documentation but as I am not following the docsrc I wanted to point out this little oudated bit. The following pages refer to the DE435 NIC and probably should be updated to or added to read DE450, the replacement for that card. 1.http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ193.html 2.http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/hw-configs.html 3.http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html As pointed out in email to questions-freebsd ... http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=607519+610077+/usr/local/www/ \ db/text/1997/freebsd-questions/19970105.freebsd-questions What may be a good reference for tha handbook as well is a PDF document at digital.com ... ftp://www.networks.digital.com/dr/brochure/ec-n4784.pdf -- Regards, Kevin G. Eliuk Box 67, Granthams Landing, BC VON 1X0 (604)886-4040 Discover Rock Solid, Discover FreeBSD | http://www.FreeBSD.Org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 29 22:36:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0E014C1E for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:36:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from localhost.nowhere (ppp18365.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.130.45]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA24677; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 01:37:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by localhost.nowhere (8.9.3/8.9.1) id BAA04218; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 01:36:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 01:36:51 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek <vanderh@ecf.utoronto.ca> To: Changhoon Kim <kimch@etri.re.kr> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Access to archives Message-ID: <19990430013651.B3509@mad> References: <3729160E.9146C609@etri.re.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <3729160E.9146C609@etri.re.kr>; from Changhoon Kim on Fri, Apr 30, 1999 at 11:31:43AM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Apr 30, 1999 at 11:31:43AM +0900, Changhoon Kim wrote: > > My name is Changhoon Kim, and I'm interested in ATM on FreeBSD, DiffServ > on FreeBSD and RSVP on FreeBSD. > Anyway, I want to access two archives, freebsd-atm & freebsd-net via > www.freebsd.org's search page. But I just could get a following message. > > "The specified message cannot be accessed." > > What's wrong with me or you ? > Have I been rejected from your page ? No. Were you trying to access messages with the subject "Information on database: freebsd-atm"? Those do not contain anything useful. If you got the error message "The specified message cannot be accessed." for other messages, then maybe it was a temporary error. Try again and see if it works. -- This .sig is not innovative, witty, or profund. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 29 23:39:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137F81554C; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:39:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id XAA64163; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:39:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:39:44 -0700 (PDT) From: <hoek@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199904300639.XAA64163@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chris@calldei.com, hoek@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10794: [Patch] typo in da(4) man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [Patch] typo in da(4) man page State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: hoek State-Changed-When: Thu Apr 29 23:39:06 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch applied, thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 30 17:50:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675A015913 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA96419; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.geekgirl.depressed.net (eris.chaos.net.au [203.41.78.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F1B714CE7 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:47:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ada@noether.geekgirl.depressed.net) Received: from noether.geekgirl.depressed.net (noether.geekgirl.depressed.net [203.41.78.136]) by mail.geekgirl.depressed.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2858A4FF for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Sat, 1 May 1999 10:51:22 +1000 (EST) Received: by noether.geekgirl.depressed.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B0472FC59; Sat, 1 May 1999 10:46:58 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <19990501004658.B0472FC59@noether.geekgirl.depressed.net> Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 10:46:58 +1000 (EST) From: ada@noether.geekgirl.depressed.net Reply-To: ada@noether.geekgirl.depressed.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11418: bugs in dlopen manpage refers to rtld(1) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11418 >Category: docs >Synopsis: bugs in dlopen manpage refers to rtld(1) >Confidential: yes >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Apr 30 17:50:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ada Lim >Release: FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: man dlopen gives a reference to rtld(1) which doesn't exist. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Change the source, Luke (-: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 2 3:30: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504DD14EDD for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sun, 2 May 1999 03:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id DAA93418; Sun, 2 May 1999 03:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 26EF2151ED; Sun, 2 May 1999 03:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990502102424.26EF2151ED@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 03:24:24 -0700 (PDT) From: efbatey@yahoo.com To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/11438: clueless how to discover my NE2000 clone IRQ / MemAddr Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11438 >Category: docs >Synopsis: clueless how to discover my NE2000 clone IRQ / MemAddr >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun May 2 03:30:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Everett Batey >Release: 2.2.8 >Organization: Self >Environment: FreeBSD gcpacix.cotdazr.org FreeBSD Release 2.2.0 .. #0 .. jkh@time... Mon Nov 30 ... 1998 ... i386 Running on a P-200 MMX Intel .. with Intel Chipset >Description: This NE2000 Clone was still alive, and still seems to be alive since the demise of my 2.0.5 F.Bsd .. Finding USB=irq11, AAH2940UW=irq10, sc0=1, sio0/1=4/3, lpt0=7, psm0=12, fdc0=6, ed0 NOT found at 0x280, so what is my fastest way out of this jam ? >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 2 7:10: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB53F1533A for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sun, 2 May 1999 07:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA79134; Sun, 2 May 1999 07:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.yk.rim.or.jp (mail.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB009153CD for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Sun, 2 May 1999 07:00:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp) Received: from localhost (ppp932.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.185.183]) by mail.yk.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id XAA27202 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Sun, 2 May 1999 23:00:17 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <19990502225938T.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 22:59:38 +0900 From: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org Reply-To: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11445: loader.8 contains typo (.fn should be .Fn, and etc.) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11445 >Category: docs >Synopsis: loader.8 contains typo (.fn should be .Fn) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun May 2 07:10:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kazuo Horikawa >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: jpman project >Environment: .\" $Id: loader.8,v 1.1.2.2 1999/04/25 21:42:23 dcs Exp $ >Description: o Use ".Xr" for cross references. o `.fn' should be `.Fn'. `.fn' shows nothing. `.Fn printf .' shows `printf().'. o `.Nm ,' should be `.Nm No ,'. `.Nm ,' shows only `,'. `.Nm No ,' shows `loader,'. >How-To-Repeat: $ man 8 loader >Fix: --- loader.8.orig Sun May 2 21:48:45 1999 +++ loader.8 Sun May 2 22:40:24 1999 @@ -38,8 +38,9 @@ is the third stage of FreeBSD's three stage bootstrap. It is a .Pa BTX -client linked statically to libstand(3) and -usually located in the directory +client linked statically to +.Xr libstand 3 +and usually located in the directory .Pa /boot . .Pp It provides a scripting language that can be used to @@ -387,7 +388,7 @@ .Bl -bullet .It \eb , \ef , \er , \en and \et are processed as by C's -.fn printf() . +.Fn printf . .It \es is converted to a space. .It @@ -474,7 +475,7 @@ versa. .Pp In -.Nm , +.Nm No , each line read interactively is then fed to .Tn FICL , which may call >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 2 9:10: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA93150BD for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sun, 2 May 1999 09:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA06739; Sun, 2 May 1999 09:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.yk.rim.or.jp (mail.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A637014F58 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Sun, 2 May 1999 09:06:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp) Received: from localhost (ppp958.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.185.209]) by mail.yk.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id BAA13870 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Mon, 3 May 1999 01:06:07 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <19990503010528J.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 01:05:28 +0900 From: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org Reply-To: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11449: loader.4th.8 contains typo (`.Nm ,' should be `.Nm No ,') Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11449 >Category: docs >Synopsis: <Synopsis of the problem (one line)> >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun May 2 09:10:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kazuo Horikawa >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: jpman project >Environment: /usr/share/man/man8/loader.4th.8 in 3.1-19990501-STABLE snapshot. .\" $Id: loader.4th.8,v 1.1.2.1 1999/04/24 17:44:35 dcs Exp $ >Description: loader.4th.8 contains following typo: o `.Nm ,' should be `.Nm No ,'. `.Nm ,' shows only `,'. >How-To-Repeat: $ man 8 loader.4th >Fix: --- loader.4th.8.orig Sun May 2 23:18:30 1999 +++ loader.4th.8 Mon May 3 00:56:51 1999 @@ -55,7 +55,7 @@ for additional commands. .Pp Before using any of the commands provided in -.Nm , +.Nm No , it must be included through the command: .Pp >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 2 14:33:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8292C14BD6 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sun, 2 May 1999 14:33:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id XAA13744; Sun, 2 May 1999 23:33:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA01057; Sun, 2 May 1999 22:24:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-ID: <19990502222444.06666@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 22:24:44 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider <wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org> To: David Honig <honig@sprynet.com>, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How To Verify your IPsec functionality References: <3723D362.851D7619@sprynet.com> <3723D362.851D7619@sprynet.com> <19990427094550.A5706@cs.tu-berlin.de> <3.0.5.32.19990427092640.007e9400@m7.sprynet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990427092640.007e9400@m7.sprynet.com>; from David Honig on Tue, Apr 27, 1999 at 09:26:40AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-04-27 09:26:40 -0700, David Honig wrote: > At 09:45 AM 4/27/99 +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > >On 1999-04-25 19:45:54 -0700, David Honig wrote: > >> I've attached an HTML doc describing how to use tcpdump > >> and an entropy measurment to verify that IPsec is working. > > > >Is your IPsec doc also available on the web? > > No, I haven't set up a page for my BSD tinkerings yet. While I might > eventually, I thought the proper place might be in some *BSD/*NIX official > collection, e.g., the newbies pages or security tips. Usually we make first a link to a document. You - as the author - will get feedback from users and can improve the paper. If you think then the document is finished we will import it into the main FreeBSD web site. > Apologies if this went to the wrong list. freebsd-doc is the right list. -- Wolfram Schneider <wosch@freebsd.org> http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 2 19: 6: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.enteract.com (thor.enteract.com [207.229.143.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6FC8B159BB for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sun, 2 May 1999 19:05:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from custom@enteract.com) Received: (qmail 16193 invoked from network); 3 May 1999 02:05:47 -0000 Received: from 207-229-142-176.d.enteract.com (HELO custom) (207.229.142.176) by thor.enteract.com with SMTP; 3 May 1999 02:05:47 -0000 From: "custom" <custom@enteract.com> To: <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 21:10:46 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990503020558.6FC8B159BB@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hey, Im creating a web page for a central database of bsd information and was requesting your permission to link to your page for your faqs only. Thanks, Kimberly To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 3 0: 7: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DC414F41; Mon, 3 May 1999 00:07:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA10863; Mon, 3 May 1999 00:07:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 00:07:08 -0700 (PDT) From: <jkoshy@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199905030707.AAA10863@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ada@noether.geekgirl.depressed.net, jkoshy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11418: bugs in dlopen manpage refers to rtld(1) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: bugs in dlopen manpage refers to rtld(1) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Mon May 3 00:05:59 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: 3.1 and later have an rtld(1) man page. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 3 0:26:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0F2154C2; Mon, 3 May 1999 00:26:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA13081; Mon, 3 May 1999 00:26:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 00:26:46 -0700 (PDT) From: <jkoshy@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199905030726.AAA13081@freefall.freebsd.org> To: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org, jkoshy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11449: <Synopsis of the problem (one line)> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: <Synopsis of the problem (one line)> State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Mon May 3 00:24:12 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Corrected in rev 1.2 of "src/sys/boot/forth/loader.4th.8", thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 3 1:33:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2B614E35; Mon, 3 May 1999 01:33:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id BAA17171; Mon, 3 May 1999 01:33:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 01:33:25 -0700 (PDT) From: <jkoshy@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199905030833.BAA17171@freefall.freebsd.org> To: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org, jkoshy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11445: loader.8 contains typo (.fn should be .Fn) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: loader.8 contains typo (.fn should be .Fn) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Mon May 3 01:31:05 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in rev 1.4 of "src/sys/boot/i386/loader/loader.8", thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 3 4:18:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pelican.sms.fi (pelican.sms.fi [192.58.51.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D7214E6B; Mon, 3 May 1999 04:18:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bror@sms.fi) Received: from sms.fi (phoenix.sms.fi [192.58.51.25]) by pelican.sms.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA89020; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:18:14 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from bror@sms.fi) Message-ID: <372D85F0.B34CB727@sms.fi> Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 14:18:08 +0300 From: Bror Heinola <bror@sms.fi> Organization: Santa Monica Software Finland Oy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hostmaster@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: fi.freebsd.org changes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Whom It May Concern: I made the following changes to fi.freebsd.org subdomain today. 1) ftp.fi.freebsd.org now points to 195.74.0.19 from 128.214.248.6 (which was ftp.funet.fi, poorly maintained for a long time) 2) cvsup2.fi.freebsd.org and www2.fi.freebsd.org added, both at 195.197.56.110 Please make the changes to relevant documentation etc. -- Bror Heinola # Santa Monica Software # Email: bror@sms.fi Technical Support # Heikkiläntie 2A # Phone: +358-9-613-8911 # 00210 HELSINKI # Fax: +358-9-692-6107 # FINLAND # Cell: +358-40-523-2171 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 3 10:26:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail13.svr.pol.co.uk (mail13.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D62615007 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:26:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@eborcom.com) Received: from modem-33.phenytoin.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.83.161]) by mail13.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10eMUC-000873-00 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 3 May 1999 18:26:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 17860 invoked by uid 5000); 3 May 1999 10:46:05 -0000 Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:46:05 +0100 From: Tom Hukins <tom@eborcom.com> To: custom <custom@enteract.com> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <19990503114605.A16785@eborcom.com> Mail-Followup-To: custom <custom@enteract.com>, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19990503020558.6FC8B159BB@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990503020558.6FC8B159BB@hub.freebsd.org>; from custom on Sun, May 02, 1999 at 09:10:46PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 02, 1999 at 09:10:46PM -0500, custom wrote: > Im creating a web page for a central database of bsd information and was > requesting your permission to link to your page for your faqs only. Kimberly, you don't need anyone's permission to link to any Web page - go for it! I'm sure the link will be greatly appreciated. Regards, Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 3 10:30: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B6515246 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA04582; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail13.svr.pol.co.uk (mail13.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8CDA14E33 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:26:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@eborcom.com) Received: from modem-33.phenytoin.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.83.161]) by mail13.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10eMU1-000873-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Mon, 3 May 1999 18:26:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 21238 invoked by uid 5000); 3 May 1999 14:15:20 -0000 Message-Id: <19990503141520.21237.qmail@eborcom.com> Date: 3 May 1999 14:15:20 -0000 From: Tom Hukins <tom@eborcom.com> To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11467: [Patch] Handbook spelling corrections and tag fixes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11467 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [Patch] Handbook spelling corrections and tag fixes >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon May 3 10:30:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Tom Hukins >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386 >Organization: eBORcOM >Environment: >Description: I've found a few spelling mistakes in the Handbook and fixed them. The patch below also contains some additional <devicename> tags around "tun" and a &man fix. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: diff -ruN handbook.old/contrib/chapter.sgml handbook/contrib/chapter.sgml --- handbook.old/contrib/chapter.sgml Sun May 2 21:36:22 1999 +++ handbook/contrib/chapter.sgml Mon May 3 14:25:22 1999 @@ -183,7 +183,7 @@ </listitem> <listitem> - <para>Add code to teh NFS layer so that you cannot + <para>Add code to the NFS layer so that you cannot <literal>chdir("..")</literal> out of an NFS partition. E.g., <filename>/usr</filename> is a UFS partition with <filename>/usr/src</filename> NFS exported. Now it is diff -ruN handbook.old/ports/chapter.sgml handbook/ports/chapter.sgml --- handbook.old/ports/chapter.sgml Sun May 2 21:36:24 1999 +++ handbook/ports/chapter.sgml Mon May 3 14:44:15 1999 @@ -1945,7 +1945,7 @@ <para>Also, add a matching <literal>@exec /sbin/ldconfig -m</literal> and <literal>@unexec /sbin/ldconfig -R</literal> pair to your <filename>pkg/PLIST</filename> file so that a user who installed the - package can start using teh shared libraru immediately and + package can start using the shared library immediately and deinstallation will not cause the system to still believe the library is there. These lines should immediately follow the line for the shared library itself, as in:</para> @@ -1958,7 +1958,7 @@ <para>Never, ever, <emphasis>ever</emphasis> add a line that says <literal>ldconfig</literal> without any arguments to your <filename>Makefile</filename> or <filename>pkg/PLIST</filename>. - This will reset the shared libraru cache to the contents of + This will reset the shared library cache to the contents of <filename>/usr/lib</filename> only, and will royally screw up the user's machine ("Help, xinit does not run anymore after I install this port!"). Anybody who does this will be shot and cut in 65,536 diff -ruN handbook.old/ppp-and-slip/chapter.sgml handbook/ppp-and-slip/chapter.sgml --- handbook.old/ppp-and-slip/chapter.sgml Tue Mar 9 19:07:58 1999 +++ handbook/ppp-and-slip/chapter.sgml Mon May 3 15:10:48 1999 @@ -28,7 +28,8 @@ implemented as a part of the kernel (e.g. as managed by <command>pppd</command>) and it is thus somewhat hard to debug and/or modify its behavior. However, in this implementation PPP is done as a - user process with the help of the tunnel device driver (tun).</para> + user process with the help of the tunnel device driver + (<devicename>tun</devicename>).</para> </blockquote> <para>In essence, this means that rather than running a PPP daemon, the @@ -136,7 +137,7 @@ change anything.</para> <para>If your kernel configuration file does not have this line in it, - or you need to configure more than one tun device (for example, if you + or you need to configure more than one <devicename>tun</devicename> device (for example, if you are setting up a server and could have 16 dialup ppp connections at any one time then you will need to use <literal>16</literal> instead of <literal>1</literal>), then you should add the line, re-compile, @@ -162,7 +163,7 @@ been used at some point—it is not an error if your interface does not show up as <literal>RUNNING</literal>.</para> - <para>If you have a kernel without the tun device, and you can not + <para>If you have a kernel without the <devicename>tun</devicename> device, and you can not rebuild it for some reason, all is not lost. You should be able to dynamically load the code. Refer to the appropriate &man.modload.8; and &man.lkm.4; pages for further details.</para> @@ -190,7 +191,7 @@ &prompt.root; <userinput>./MAKEDEV tun0</userinput></screen> <para>If you require 16 tunnel devices in your kernel, you will need to - create more than just tun0:</para> + create more than just <devicename>tun0</devicename>:</para> <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>cd /dev</userinput> &prompt.root; <userinput>./MAKEDEV tun15</userinput></screen> @@ -407,7 +408,7 @@ <para>Sets the phone number for this provider. Multiple phone numbers may be specified using the <literal>:</literal> or <literal>|</literal> character as a separator. The difference - between these spearators is described in the ppp manual page. + between these spearators is described in &man.ppp.8;. To summarize, if you want to rotate through the numbers, use the <literal>:</literal>. If you want to always attempt to dial the first number first and only use the other numbers if @@ -1006,8 +1007,8 @@ <para>This will tell PPP to listen to the specified unix-domain socket, asking clients for the specified password before allowing - access. The <literal>%d</literal> in the name is replaced with teh - tun device number that is in use.</para> + access. The <literal>%d</literal> in the name is replaced with the + <devicename>tun</devicename> device number that is in use.</para> <para>Once a socket has been set up, the &man.pppctl.8; program may be used in scripts that wish to >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 3 10:57:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail-gw3adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (mail-gw3.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF9514C3B for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:57:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ppp-207-193-13-171.hstntx.swbell.net [207.193.13.171]) by mail-gw3adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15007 for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:57:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA07269 for doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:58:23 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:58:22 -0500 From: Chris Costello <chris@holly.dyndns.org> To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (Handbook) Linux emulation section Message-ID: <19990503125819.D5515@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Due to how amazingly out of date the Linux emulation section is, I have taken up rewriting it, and will continue to do so, unless anybody has any objections to my doing so. -- Chris Costello <chris@calldei.com> My Go this amn keyboar oesn't have any 's. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 3 11: 0:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4FE14F13 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:00:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA06865 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:00:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905031800.LAA06865@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster <bugmaster@freebsd.org> To: FreeBSD doc list <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1999/02/14] docs/10088 doc Documentation search results o [1999/04/26] docs/11348 doc Correction to previous Y2K information 2 problems total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1999/01/22] docs/9618 doc many typos in groff_mm(7) a [1999/02/17] docs/10135 doc Change to Documention Regarding Upgrades o [1999/04/17] docs/11182 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/kernelconfig/chap o [1999/05/02] docs/11438 doc clueless how to discover my NE2000 clone 4 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [1998/01/15] docs/5487 doc Adding documentation for scsi(8) usage wi o [1998/04/14] docs/6295 doc Reference to nonexistent file in Device D o [1998/04/15] docs/6307 doc sgmlfmt not `make -jN' ready o [1998/05/18] docs/6681 doc docu. addition a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated a [1998/08/31] docs/7791 doc ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ip o [1998/09/13] docs/7914 doc no elf(5) manpage o [1998/10/25] docs/8445 doc Update of "Installing Mathematica on Free a [1998/10/27] docs/8464 doc Missing include file <machine/param.h> wh o [1998/11/02] docs/8547 doc Various updates to authors.sgml, printing o [1998/11/10] docs/8640 doc proposed change of 4.5 o [1998/11/19] docs/8765 doc some suggested text for describing passwo o [1999/01/06] docs/9352 doc wrong macro names in groff_[ms|mm|mmse].7 o [1999/01/12] docs/9455 doc cvsup and ftp server in Czech Republic o [1999/01/24] docs/9658 doc tar(1) SYNOPSIS refinement o [1999/01/26] docs/9707 doc New entry for FAQ o [1999/01/29] docs/9773 doc Handbook 4.7.1.4. "Testing the port" is i o [1999/01/31] docs/9837 doc fix to doc/handbook/porting.sgml o [1999/02/06] docs/9940 doc mt.1 typo (right paren missing, and etc.) o [1999/02/08] docs/9960 doc man page for route doesn't mention defaul o [1999/02/10] docs/10017 doc Added a site and bug fix o [1999/02/11] docs/10038 doc Added a site and bug fix (part two) o [1999/02/14] docs/10084 doc new FreeBSD user group in Yogyakarta City o [1999/02/14] docs/10085 doc NIS Setup Tutorial o [1999/02/14] docs/10098 doc Lack of overall guide for NIS setup o [1999/02/15] docs/10108 doc Addition to fstab.5 o [1999/02/18] docs/10146 doc Release Notes and LINT for 3.1 include ha o [1999/02/21] docs/10180 doc Another mirror site not listed... o [1999/02/21] docs/10182 doc http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?p o [1999/02/25] docs/10240 doc We need a script which check if our web m o [1999/02/25] docs/10256 doc handbook on cvsup... o [1999/03/01] docs/10331 doc pccardd(8) claims FreeBSD does not suppor o [1999/03/03] docs/10378 doc option -s missing in lptcontrol.8 o [1999/03/04] docs/10388 doc Obsolete information in Handbook o [1999/03/05] docs/10403 doc CDE is no longer sold by Xi Graphics. o [1999/03/05] docs/10408 doc [quasi-patch] Grammar nitpicks in Handboo o [1999/03/06] docs/10451 doc EDESTADDRREQ returnable by writev() but n o [1999/03/07] docs/10472 doc Mailing list for discussion of Xircom dri o [1999/03/07] docs/10474 doc A command line in a man document is incom o [1999/03/08] docs/10488 doc Error in entry for 02/27 in calendar.hist o [1999/03/08] docs/10494 doc arp(4) SYNOPSIS non typical expression o [1999/03/08] docs/10495 doc lo(4) SYNOPSIS non typical expression o [1999/03/08] docs/10500 doc spell error o [1999/03/09] docs/10512 doc ENOBUFS returnable from writev(2) but not o [1999/03/09] docs/10517 doc Missing manpage for /usr/bin/gensetdefs ( o [1999/03/16] docs/10624 doc typos/innacuracies in wfd(4) man page o [1999/03/18] docs/10659 doc Many syscall man pages have an IMPLEMENTA o [1999/03/18] docs/10660 doc User Group not listed o [1999/03/18] docs/10664 doc Notes on 2.2.8 -> 3.1 migration o [1999/03/21] docs/10704 doc strange sentence in doc/handbook/ctm.sgml a [1999/03/21] docs/10708 doc meteor.4 man page documentation problem. o [1999/03/23] docs/10762 doc geocrawler.com mailing list archives o [1999/03/24] docs/10771 doc [PATCH] ftpd manpage missing -A in synops o [1999/03/27] docs/10819 doc Documentation add o [1999/03/28] docs/10840 doc [PATCH] Add pcic double-loading bug fix t o [1999/03/28] docs/10841 doc typos in man page screen.4 (c -> n) o [1999/03/28] docs/10847 doc lpbb.4's PostScript output format is brok o [1999/03/29] docs/10850 doc submitting a documentation change for sed o [1999/03/30] docs/10877 doc manpage for objformat incorrectly mention o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/04/07] docs/11011 doc missing man page for arc4 related functio o [1999/04/07] docs/11015 doc handbook/mirrors-ftp.html missing NZ serv o [1999/04/08] docs/11028 doc new text for FAQ to explain branches o [1999/04/11] docs/11087 doc Portland FreeBSD users group o [1999/04/11] docs/11089 doc freebsd user group, sydney o [1999/04/11] docs/11090 doc User's group in Melbourne Australia o [1999/04/12] docs/11098 doc FAQ Update: Database systems for FreeBSD o [1999/04/12] docs/11102 doc [Patch] Handbook: Minor spelling correcti o [1999/04/15] docs/11150 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/security/chapters o [1999/04/15] docs/11153 doc [Patch] en/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml is o [1999/04/17] docs/11184 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/eresources/chapte o [1999/04/17] docs/11190 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/introduction/chap o [1999/04/19] docs/11215 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/disks/chapter.sgm o [1999/04/20] docs/11233 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/preface.sgml o [1999/04/20] docs/11234 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/install.sgml o [1999/04/21] docs/11258 doc suggestion to refine npx.4 o [1999/05/03] docs/11467 doc [Patch] Handbook spelling corrections and 77 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 3 22:28:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE221581D; Mon, 3 May 1999 22:28:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA20781; Mon, 3 May 1999 22:28:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:28:39 -0700 (PDT) From: <jkoshy@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199905040528.WAA20781@freefall.freebsd.org> To: tom@eborcom.com, jkoshy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11467: [Patch] Handbook spelling corrections and tag fixes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [Patch] Handbook spelling corrections and tag fixes State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Mon May 3 22:26:17 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch applied, thanks! Changes: rev 1.33 "doc/en/handbook/contrib/chapter.sgml" rev 1.15 "doc/en/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml" rev 1.11 "doc/en/handbook/ppp-and-slip/chapter.sgml" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 4 1:50: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7CC15650 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Tue, 4 May 1999 01:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id BAA17863; Tue, 4 May 1999 01:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.yk.rim.or.jp (mail.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4B915156 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Tue, 4 May 1999 01:42:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp) Received: from localhost (ppp943.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.185.194]) by mail.yk.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id RAA03742 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Tue, 4 May 1999 17:42:44 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <19990504174202V.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 17:42:02 +0900 From: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org Reply-To: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11485: mount_ntfs.8 contains typos. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11485 >Category: docs >Synopsis: mount_ntfs.8 contains typos. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue May 4 01:50:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kazuo Horikawa >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: jpman project >Environment: src/sbin/mount_ntfs/mount_ntfs.8 rev. 1.2.2.1 (RELENG_3) and rev. 1.2 (HEAD) >Description: mount_ntfs.8 contains following typos: o `insestive' should be `insensitive'. o `indentifier' should be `identifier'. o `inplementation' should be `implementation'. o `appered' should be `appeared'. I think that we can use more mdoc(7) macros in mount_ntfs.8: o `.Fn readdir' may be better than `readdir()'. o `.Pa /dev/wd1s1' may be better than `/dev/wd1s1'. o `.Sx WRITING' may be better than `WRITING'. o `.Fx 3.0' may be better than `FreeBSD 3.0'. o `.An Semen Ustimenko Aq semenu@FreeBSD.org' may be better than `Semen Ustimenko <semenu@FreeBSD.org>'. >How-To-Repeat: $ man 8 mount_ntfs >Fix: --- mount_ntfs.8.orig Tue May 4 16:01:26 1999 +++ mount_ntfs.8 Tue May 4 16:36:29 1999 @@ -63,9 +63,10 @@ The options are as follows: .Bl -tag -width Ds .It Fl a -Force behaviour to return MS-DOS 8.3 names also on readdir(). +Force behaviour to return MS-DOS 8.3 names also on +.Fn readdir . .It Fl i -Make name lookup case insesitive for all names except POSIX names. +Make name lookup case insensitive for all names except POSIX names. .It Fl u Ar uid Set the owner of the files in the file system to .Ar uid . @@ -87,12 +88,13 @@ .Ed .Pp .Sq ATTRTYPE -is one of indentifier listed in $AttrDef file of +is one of identifier listed in $AttrDef file of volume. Default is $DATA. .Sq ATTRNAME is an attribute name. Default is none. .Sh EXAMPLES -To mount an ntfs volume located in /dev/wd1s1: +To mount an ntfs volume located in +.Pa /dev/wd1s1 : .Bd -literal -offset indent # mount_ntfs /dev/wd1s1 /mnt .Ed @@ -117,12 +119,16 @@ .Xr fstab 5 , .Xr mount 8 .Sh CAVEATS -This utulity gives almost only read-only access to NTFS volume. See WRITING section. +This utility gives almost only read-only access to NTFS volume. See +.Sx WRITING +section. .Sh HISTORY The .Nm -first appered in FreeBSD 3.0 +first appeared in +.Fx 3.0 . .Sh AUTHOR -NTFS kernel inplementation, +NTFS kernel implementation, .Nm -and manual were written by Semen Ustimenko <semenu@FreeBSD.org>. +and manual were written by +.An Semen Ustimenko Aq semenu@FreeBSD.org . >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 4 4:35:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0ED14F10; Tue, 4 May 1999 04:35:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA29399; Tue, 4 May 1999 04:35:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 04:35:31 -0700 (PDT) From: <jkoshy@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199905041135.EAA29399@freefall.freebsd.org> To: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org, jkoshy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11485: mount_ntfs.8 contains typos. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: mount_ntfs.8 contains typos. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Tue May 4 04:33:26 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch applied to rev 1.3of "src/sbin/mount_ntfs/mount_ntfs.8", thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 4 7:30: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C241524F for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Tue, 4 May 1999 07:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA62287; Tue, 4 May 1999 07:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from beebite.ugh.net.au (sc01006.sport.powerup.com.au [203.147.246.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5038F15835 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Tue, 4 May 1999 07:21:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@ugh.net.au) Received: (from andrew@localhost) by beebite.ugh.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01270; Tue, 4 May 1999 22:57:26 GMT (envelope-from andrew) Message-Id: <199905042257.WAA01270@beebite.ugh.net.au> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 22:57:26 GMT From: andrew@ugh.net.au Reply-To: andrew@ugh.net.au To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11489: Typo in man tigetstr(3) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11489 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Typo in man tigetstr(3) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue May 4 07:30:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrew >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386 >Organization: UgH! >Environment: >Description: The prototype for tigetstr is given as int tigetstr(char *) and it should be char *tigetstr(char *) >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- tigetstr.3.orig Wed May 5 08:49:47 1999 +++ tigetstr.3 Wed May 5 08:50:32 1999 @@ -39,7 +39,7 @@ .br \fBint tigetnum(char *capname);\fR .br -\fBint tigetstr(char *capname);\fR +\fBchar *tigetstr(char *capname);\fR .br .SH DESCRIPTION These low-level routines must be called by programs that have to deal >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 4 8:37: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from firewall2.lehman.com (firewall2.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590C715851 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Tue, 4 May 1999 08:36:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall2.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id LAA19570; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:36:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id LAA17659; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lonmailhost.lehman.com (SMI-8.6/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id QAA19603; Tue, 4 May 1999 16:35:33 +0100 Message-ID: <19990504163533.S14492@lehman.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 16:35:33 +0100 From: nclayton@lehman.com To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: doc/<lang>/books/*, doc/<lang>/articles/*, and docs.freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FDP folks, [ I'm sort of thinking out loud at the moment ] The doc/ directory structure is currently organised as doc/<lang>/handbook doc/<lang>/FAQ doc/<lang>/tutorials/* where <lang> is the appropriate language code (ignore doc/FAQ/* for the time being, it's migrating soon-ish). In addition, there's a doc/share/mk and a doc/share/sgml for language independent bits and pieces. I'm wondering whether it's worthwhile migrating the existing content to a doc/<lang>/books/ and doc/<lang>/articles/ directory structure instead? Specifically, I'm not happy about the FAQ and the Handbook being a directory level higher than the other content. It's not 'clean', and it means that any automated tools to process the documentation have to consider either the FAQ and Handbook as special cases, or the tutorials as a special case instead. This will get worse when I (and anyone else that wants to help) start splitting the Handbook up into separate, smaller, books[1]. Where does the new content go? I think this then allows for things like doc/<lang>/books/printing/* doc/<lang>/books/security/* doc/<lang>/books/FDP-primer/* ... doc/<lang>/articles/FAQ/* doc/<lang>/articles/fonts/* doc/<lang>/articles/ip-aliasing/* ... and so on. This sort of thing could be done as part of the DocBook conversion -- instead of doing it in-place, the results of the conversion are placed in the new directories, in the same way that doc/handbook/ was migrated to doc/en/handbook/. This wouldn't happen overnight, and I'm not advocating changing the URLs on the website. Yet. This brings me on to my second point. docs.freebsd.org. At the moment the FDP doc/ tree and the www/ tree sit a little uneasily together. Building the website requires that the doc/ tree be available as well, and in the process all sorts of symlinks are created and little hacks exist in several Makefiles to get the build to work properly. It's all fairly fragile, and I'd be happier if it was a little more separate. I think that in an ideal world we'd also have a doc/<lang>/www/ tree which would contain *just* those pieces of infrastructure necessary to support a docs.freebsd.org which had a front-end that listed the available documentation, linked to it, and let the user search it. In the fullness of time (once the technology's mature) it might support XML in some way as well. For an idea of what I'm thinking of, take a look at http://docs.sun.com/. Take their "Hardware" and "Software" headings and replace them with "Books" and "Articles", and it's pretty close to the end product I have in mind. Of course, we don't have to do either one of these. But to my mind, docs.freebsd.org becomes that bit easier to create (and automate) if the directory structure's a bit more rigid. Of course, this does bring up some issues. Two immediately spring to mind. The first is mirroring -- we already have many mirror sites who mirror www.freebsd.org around the world. Would they be prepared to mirror docs.freebsd.org as well? The only way to find out is to ask, which is part of the reason for this message. The second is URLs changing -- in an ideal world, once you've published a URL it stays the same forever, otherwise you get link rot. But you can get around this by remapping URLs on the webserver, so that www.freebsd.org/handbook/foo.html is automatically mapped to docs.freebsd.org/books/handbook/foo.html instead. Thoughts? N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 4 10: 9:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp0.mindspring.com (smtp0.mindspring.com [207.69.200.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897D814C0F; Tue, 4 May 1999 10:09:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from honig@sprynet.com) Received: from maryanne (user-38ldg75.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.192.229]) by smtp0.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA29202; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990504100851.007f5820@m7.sprynet.com> X-Sender: honig@m7.sprynet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 10:08:51 -0700 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: David Honig <honig@sprynet.com> Subject: BSD & /dev/random web page Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've posted a small collection of my BSD and crypto-randomness-related pages at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Code/4704/ This includes MUST code in C (and a PDF copy of Maurer's paper), How to instrument BSD with sysctl,How to Verify your IPsec, and studies of /dev/random. The site collects in a permenant place the hacks that I've posted in various fora. I've included a modified BSD random_machdep.c file on the web site which includes sysctl switches for various parts of the /dev/random system. With this, I've observed: By replacing the MD5 hash with an insecure version, (so you can 'see' into the random pool) you can monitor, in real-time, the entropy of your random pool ("cat /dev/urandom | uliscan") and see the effect of various interrupts as they temporarily boost the entropy. This study is in progress. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 4 11: 2:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E7614F07; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:02:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA20189; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:02:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 11:02:34 -0700 (PDT) From: <ghelmer@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199905041802.LAA20189@freefall.freebsd.org> To: stefan.witzel@zvw.uni-goettingen.de, ghelmer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/8464: Missing include file <machine/param.h> when using <sys/shm.h> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Missing include file <machine/param.h> when using <sys/shm.h> State-Changed-From-To: analyzed->closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Tue May 4 11:01:52 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Added missing include to shmat.2, shmget.2, and shmctl.2. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 4 11:10: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13DC150FD for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA28317; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC8B1519D for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:00:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from root@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA94809; Tue, 4 May 1999 10:58:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kargl) Message-Id: <199905041758.KAA94809@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 10:58:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Steven G. Kargl" <kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Reply-To: kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11493: ncr.4 update Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11493 >Category: docs >Synopsis: PATCH: ncr.4 update >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue May 4 11:10:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Steven G. Kargl >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: apl-uw >Environment: Post-CAM FreeBSD >Description: sd -> da st -> sa * Added cross-referecnce to scsi(4) * Sorted See ALSO entries. * Remove reference to nca(4) >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- ncr.4.orig Tue May 4 10:46:57 1999 +++ ncr.4 Tue May 4 10:53:52 1999 @@ -37,14 +37,11 @@ driver provides support for the NCR/Symbios 53C810, 53C810a, 53C815, 53C820, 53C825a, 53C860, 53C875, 53C875j, 53C885, 53C895 and 53C896 SCSI controller chips. -.Sh NOTE -Support for the NCR 5380 and 53C400 chips is provided by the -.Xr nca 4 -driver. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr cd 4 , .Xr ch 4 , +.Xr da 4 , .Xr intro 4 , .Xr nca 4 , -.Xr sd 4 , -.Xr st 4 +.Xr sa 4 +.Xr scsi 4 >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 4 11:16:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1A8157FD; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:16:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA35729; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:16:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 11:16:36 -0700 (PDT) From: <ghelmer@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199905041816.LAA35729@freefall.freebsd.org> To: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org, ghelmer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/9658: tar(1) SYNOPSIS refinement Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: tar(1) SYNOPSIS refinement State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Tue May 4 11:16:12 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch committed (tar.1 revs 1.20, 1.18.2.1) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 4 11:24:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA2714C03 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:23:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kargl@apl.washington.edu) Received: from apl.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA94969 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:20:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kargl@apl.washington.edu) Message-ID: <372F3A72.804D0CC8@apl.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 11:20:34 -0700 From: "Steven G. Kargl" <kargl@apl.washington.edu> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD article by Anne Chen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/news/0,4153,400844,00.html -- Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 4 11:26: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5991581E; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:25:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA46724; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:25:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 11:25:41 -0700 (PDT) From: <ghelmer@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199905041825.LAA46724@freefall.freebsd.org> To: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org, ghelmer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/9940: mt.1 typo (right paren missing, and etc.) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: mt.1 typo (right paren missing, and etc.) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Tue May 4 11:24:51 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch committed (mt.1 1.14, 1.12.2.2). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 4 11:43: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E99B14DE2; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:42:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA63406; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:42:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 11:42:54 -0700 (PDT) From: <ghelmer@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199905041842.LAA63406@freefall.freebsd.org> To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE, ghelmer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/9960: man page for route doesn't mention default Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: man page for route doesn't mention default State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Tue May 4 11:42:10 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in revs 1.13 and 1.12.2.1. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 4 12:47:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CCDD15BF3; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:47:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA14465; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:47:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 12:47:40 -0700 (PDT) From: <ghelmer@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199905041947.MAA14465@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sheldonh@freebsd.org, ghelmer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10771: [PATCH] ftpd manpage missing -A in synopsis Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] ftpd manpage missing -A in synopsis State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Tue May 4 12:47:22 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 4 13:13:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB98814D41; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:13:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA17255; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:13:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:13:44 -0700 (PDT) From: <ghelmer@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199905042013.NAA17255@freefall.freebsd.org> To: hgoldste@mpcs.com, ghelmer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10451: EDESTADDRREQ returnable by writev() but not documented Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: EDESTADDRREQ returnable by writev() but not documented State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Tue May 4 13:13:16 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Added error code to list of possible errors from writev(2). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 4 13:32:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCFF615063; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:32:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA20106; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:32:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:32:59 -0700 (PDT) From: <ghelmer@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199905042032.NAA20106@freefall.freebsd.org> To: oliver.fromme@heim3.tu-clausthal.de, ghelmer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10517: Missing manpage for /usr/bin/gensetdefs (fix included!) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Missing manpage for /usr/bin/gensetdefs (fix included!) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Tue May 4 13:32:07 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Page committed to CURRENT with minor modifications. Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 4 13:46:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8910214C13; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:46:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA00863; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:46:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:46:32 -0700 (PDT) From: <ghelmer@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199905042046.NAA00863@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sheta@kk.iij4u.or.jp, ghelmer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10494: arp(4) SYNOPSIS non typical expression Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: arp(4) SYNOPSIS non typical expression State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Tue May 4 13:46:01 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed fix, thanks. (revs 1.3, 1.2.2.1) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 4 13:51:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D7515DD0; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:51:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA01627; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:51:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:51:49 -0700 (PDT) From: <ghelmer@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199905042051.NAA01627@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sheta@kk.iij4u.or.jp, ghelmer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10495: lo(4) SYNOPSIS non typical expression Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: lo(4) SYNOPSIS non typical expression State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Tue May 4 13:51:37 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 4 14:10: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0476315B80; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:09:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA03384; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:09:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:09:40 -0700 (PDT) From: <ghelmer@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199905042109.OAA03384@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sanpei@sanpei.org, ghelmer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/10708: meteor.4 man page documentation problem. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: meteor.4 man page documentation problem. State-Changed-From-To: analyzed->closed State-Changed-By: ghelmer State-Changed-When: Tue May 4 16:09:01 CDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed fixes (meteor.4 revs 1.8, 1.7.2.1). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 4 18:21:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3DF14DD3 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Tue, 4 May 1999 18:21:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03375; Wed, 5 May 1999 11:21:36 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19990505112135.B3157@caamora.com.au> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 11:21:35 +1000 From: jonathan michaels <jon@caamora.com.au> To: nclayton@lehman.com Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: doc/<lang>/books/*, doc/<lang>/articles/*, and docs.freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: nclayton@lehman.com, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <19990504163533.S14492@lehman.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19990504163533.S14492@lehman.com>; from nclayton@lehman.com on Tue, May 04, 1999 at 04:35:33PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 04, 1999 at 04:35:33PM +0100, nclayton@lehman.com wrote: > FDP folks, well, i'm an vested interest participant. > [ I'm sort of thinking out loud at the moment ] stuttering back .. > The doc/ directory structure is currently organised as > > doc/<lang>/handbook > doc/<lang>/FAQ > doc/<lang>/tutorials/* > > where <lang> is the appropriate language code (ignore doc/FAQ/* for the > time being, it's migrating soon-ish). > > In addition, there's a doc/share/mk and a doc/share/sgml for language > independent bits and pieces. > > I'm wondering whether it's worthwhile migrating the existing > content to a doc/<lang>/books/ and doc/<lang>/articles/ directory > structure instead? > > Specifically, I'm not happy about the FAQ and the Handbook being a > directory level higher than the other content. It's not 'clean', and > it means that any automated tools to process the documentation > have to consider either the FAQ and Handbook as special cases, or the > tutorials as a special case instead. regarding my recent ramblings into makefile mysteries, i was begngin to wonder aboutyhat. > This will get worse when I (and anyone else that wants to help) start > splitting the Handbook up into separate, smaller, books[1]. Where does > the new content go? > > I think this then allows for things like > > doc/<lang>/books/printing/* > doc/<lang>/books/security/* > doc/<lang>/books/FDP-primer/* > ... > doc/<lang>/articles/FAQ/* > doc/<lang>/articles/fonts/* > doc/<lang>/articles/ip-aliasing/* > ... > > and so on. sounds, er looks good to me > This sort of thing could be done as part of the DocBook conversion -- > instead of doing it in-place, the results of the conversion are placed in > the new directories, in the same way that doc/handbook/ was migrated to > doc/en/handbook/. > > This wouldn't happen overnight, and I'm not advocating changing the URLs > on the website. > > Yet. > > This brings me on to my second point. docs.freebsd.org. i think that this would be an advantage, if handled properly. > At the moment the FDP doc/ tree and the www/ tree sit a little uneasily > together. Building the website requires that the doc/ tree be available > as well, and in the process all sorts of symlinks are created and little > hacks exist in several Makefiles to get the build to work properly. > > It's all fairly fragile, and I'd be happier if it was a little more > separate. i was wondering why it was done the way it was from teh begining, i put it down to amerian ideosyncractic behaviour, no insult intended ... ummm, i'm getting to be overly 'sensative' today. > I think that in an ideal world we'd also have a doc/<lang>/www/ tree > which would contain *just* those pieces of infrastructure necessary to > support a docs.freebsd.org which had a front-end that listed the available > documentation, linked to it, and let the user search it. In the fullness > of time (once the technology's mature) it might support XML in some way > as well. yup, sure thing .. > For an idea of what I'm thinking of, take a look at http://docs.sun.com/. > Take their "Hardware" and "Software" headings and replace them with > "Books" and "Articles", and it's pretty close to the end product I have > in mind. the first time i went thier and saw what they did it made me wonder why we couldn't/didn't do it like that as well .. cncdering we were supposed t be as 'mature' as teh sun crowd. while i'm here .. have you looked at teh overal mess teh freebsd website really is. sun (from memory) asks if you want a text version and then gives the viewer a clean presentation. when i use lynx, the freebsd site is a vertitable nightmare to navigate, maybe a checkpoint could be inserted and teh user asked if a text version is required and a text version be supplied if requsted. maybe my yetagain whine will become irrelevant onc3 i get and start to use w3:amaya/toth combination .. but, lynx may still be the one if this new gui fails to meet exectations. this whole issue of organisation is a subset of teh broder problm od usability/readability. tackling teh one without the any referance t its kindred spirit will produce yet another ork. > Of course, we don't have to do either one of these. But to my mind, > docs.freebsd.org becomes that bit easier to create (and automate) if > the directory structure's a bit more rigid. as was pointed out to ne by one who claimed superiority, i'm no developer and hence have no skill in that bent .. but, i can see how it would be of importance and can also understand how, changes made for a more easy development cycle can help produce a better and more readable hence more usable documentaton set. > Of course, this does bring up some issues. Two immediately spring to > mind. > > The first is mirroring -- we already have many mirror sites who mirror > www.freebsd.org around the world. Would they be prepared to mirror > docs.freebsd.org as well? The only way to find out is to ask, which is > part of the reason for this message. open ended discussion is alway good, as long as it is discussion > The second is URLs changing -- in an ideal world, once you've published a > URL it stays the same forever, otherwise you get link rot. But you can > get around this by remapping URLs on the webserver, so that just an observation .. i thought it was teh web host maintainers responsability to check (ona timely basis) that the information on the site that they are maintaining, is correct, current and presented in an apropriate manner. while it is encumbant upon the originator of teh content to refrain from frivilios posturings .. from a moral or ethical responsability partnership type of relationship type of co-dependancy thingy sort of area od intersts .. well you know what i mean .. thingy. i suppose what i'm saying is that it is just as much the responsability of teh mirrors to make sure that the links are current and available as it is upon teh originator to make keep the links current and avalable. your arguement intones teh idea that the originator has sole responsability and a (over large) share of the workload in maintain teh visability of teh products 'world image', its availability and sustained(able) viability. > > www.freebsd.org/handbook/foo.html > > is automatically mapped to > > docs.freebsd.org/books/handbook/foo.html > > instead. > > Thoughts? a $AUD3.74 .. assuming i haven't been devalued, yet again. regards jonathan -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia ===========================================================<jon@caamora.com.au> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 4 20:10:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22BD14BEC; Tue, 4 May 1999 20:10:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id UAA74623; Tue, 4 May 1999 20:10:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 20:10:34 -0700 (PDT) From: <jkoshy@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199905050310.UAA74623@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andrew@ugh.net.au, jkoshy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11489: Typo in man tigetstr(3) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Typo in man tigetstr(3) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Tue May 4 20:08:35 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch applied, thanks! Revision Changes Path 1.4 +1 -1 src/lib/libncurses/curs_termin.3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 4 21: 5:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BBC15155; Tue, 4 May 1999 21:05:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA77017; Tue, 4 May 1999 21:05:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 21:05:14 -0700 (PDT) From: <jkoshy@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199905050405.VAA77017@freefall.freebsd.org> To: kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu, jkoshy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/11493: PATCH: ncr.4 update Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: PATCH: ncr.4 update State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Tue May 4 21:04:34 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch applied, thanks! Revision Changes Path 1.6 +4 -7 src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/ncr.4 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 4 23:29:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from NS1.Radtel.OR.IR (unknown [195.146.44.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 362FB1589C for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Tue, 4 May 1999 23:28:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karami@www.dci.co.ir) Received: from www.dci.co.ir ([195.146.44.4]) by NS1.Radtel.OR.IR (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA14703 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Wed, 5 May 1999 10:58:13 +0430 Message-ID: <372FE51D.77D820@www.dci.co.ir> Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 10:58:46 +0430 From: Hassan Karami <karami@www.dci.co.ir> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: unix Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear sir; I would like to know about unxi in operation systems and how can I work in usnet and participate with people through Internet to find sultan for my questions. my E-mail address is : h_karami@yahoo.com It would be very much appreciated if you kindly consider the matter and advise me the results. Yours faithfully Hassan Karami To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 5 0:10: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4EA9158C4 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Wed, 5 May 1999 00:10:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA88018; Wed, 5 May 1999 00:10:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.nk.rim.or.jp (mail.nk.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19DF14C24 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Wed, 5 May 1999 00:04:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuma@nk.rim.or.jp) Received: from laurel.nk.rim.or.jp (JYOcc-02p65.ppp.odn.ad.jp [143.90.98.134]) by mail.nk.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id QAA06944 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Wed, 5 May 1999 16:04:19 +0900 (JST) Received: by laurel.nk.rim.or.jp (8.9.2/8.9.2oasis990320) id QAA12359; Wed, 5 May 1999 16:13:56 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199905050713.QAA12359@laurel.nk.rim.or.jp> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 16:13:56 +0900 (JST) From: kuma@jp.freebsd.org Reply-To: kuma@jp.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11506: typos in dhclient.conf.5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11506 >Category: docs >Synopsis: some typos in dhclient.conf.5 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed May 5 00:10:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Norihiro Kumagai >Release: 3.1-19990417-STABLE >Organization: FreeBSD manual Japanese Translation Project >Environment: 3.1-19990417-STABLE, and later(I guess) >Description: There are some possible typos I have found in the dhclient.conf.5 manpage. Please consult the following diff data. >How-To-Repeat: (snip) >Fix: Please apply the following patch data: And please remove lines beginning with '.\"X ', because it is my comment. --- dhclient.conf.5-en.org Wed May 5 11:16:26 1999 +++ dhclient.conf.5-en Wed May 5 15:19:18 1999 @@ -292,7 +292,8 @@ \fBlease {\fR \fIlease-declaration\fR [ ... \fIlease-declaration ] \fB}\fR .PP The DHCP client may decide after some period of time (see \fBPROTOCOL -TIMING\fR) decide that it is not going to succeed in contacting a +TIMING\fR) that it is not going to succeed in contacting a +.\" BAD DUP decide's?! server. At that time, it consults its own database of old leases and tests each one that has not yet timed out by pinging the listed router for that lease to see if that lease could work. It is possible to @@ -392,7 +393,8 @@ argument is passed on the ifconfig command line when configuring te interface. .PP -The dhcp client automatically declares this parameter if it used a +The dhcp client automatically declares this parameter if it uses a +.\"X it uses? or it is used? media type (see the .B media statement) when configuring the interface in order to obtain a lease. @@ -430,8 +432,8 @@ should generally be four digits except for really long leases. The month is specified as a number starting with 1 for January. The day of the month is likewise specified starting with 1. The hour is a -number between 0 and 23, the minute a number between 0 and 69, and the -second also a number between 0 and 69. +number between 0 and 23, the minute a number between 0 and 59, and the +second also a number between 0 and 59. .SH ALIAS DECLARATIONS \fBalias { \fI declarations ... \fB}\fR .PP @@ -455,7 +457,9 @@ .SH OTHER DECLARATIONS \fBreject \fIip-address\fB;\fR .PP -The reject statement causes the DHCP client to reject offers from +The +.B reject +statement causes the DHCP client to reject offers from servers who use the specified address as a server identifier. This can be used to avoid being configured by rogue or misconfigured dhcp servers, although it should be a last resort - better to track down @@ -486,7 +490,7 @@ probably right (no guarantees). .PP The media setup is only used for the initial phase of address -acquisition (the DHCPDISCOVER and DHCPOFFER packtes). Once an +acquisition (the DHCPDISCOVER and DHCPOFFER packets). Once an address has been acquired, the dhcp client will record it in its lease database and will record the media type used to acquire the address. Whenever the client tries to renew the lease, it will use that same >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 5 3: 3:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ikhala.tcimet.net (ikhala.tcimet.net [198.109.166.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A1A1554D for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Wed, 5 May 1999 03:03:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dervish@ikhala.tcimet.net) Received: (from dervish@localhost) by ikhala.tcimet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA46167 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 5 May 1999 06:24:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dervish) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 06:24:52 -0400 From: Natty Rebel <dervish@ikhala.tcimet.net> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <19990505062452.A46068@ikhala.tcimet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 2C CE A5 D7 FA 4D D5 FD 9A CC 2B 23 04 46 48 F8 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe -- natty rebel harder than the rest ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 5 3:30:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from firewall2.lehman.com (firewall2.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163C715035 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Wed, 5 May 1999 03:30:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall2.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id GAA25454; Wed, 5 May 1999 06:30:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id GAA16691; Wed, 5 May 1999 06:30:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lonmailhost.lehman.com (SMI-8.6/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id LAA10475; Wed, 5 May 1999 11:30:04 +0100 Message-ID: <19990505113004.Z14492@lehman.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 11:30:04 +0100 From: nclayton@lehman.com To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: doc/<lang>/books/*, doc/<lang>/articles/*, and docs.freebsd.org References: <19990504163533.S14492@lehman.com> <19990505112135.B3157@caamora.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19990505112135.B3157@caamora.com.au>; from jonathan michaels on Wed, May 05, 1999 at 11:21:35AM +1000 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 05, 1999 at 11:21:35AM +1000, jonathan michaels wrote: > On Tue, May 04, 1999 at 04:35:33PM +0100, nclayton@lehman.com wrote: > > At the moment the FDP doc/ tree and the www/ tree sit a little uneasily > > together. Building the website requires that the doc/ tree be available > > as well, and in the process all sorts of symlinks are created and little > > hacks exist in several Makefiles to get the build to work properly. > > > > It's all fairly fragile, and I'd be happier if it was a little more > > separate. > > i was wondering why it was done the way it was from teh > begining, i put it down to amerian ideosyncractic behaviour, no > insult intended ... ummm, i'm getting to be overly 'sensative' > today. Having developed my fair share of websites professionally, the FreeBSD site is a good example of what happens when a site grows organically. This is no slight on the various people that have taken on the role of FreeBSD webmaster over the past few years -- maintaining even a medium size site such as the FreeBSD one rapidly becomes difficult when content is added willy-nilly, as has happened in the past. Looking after it is (literally) a full time job, and we don't have the luxury of having anyone who can do the work full time. > > For an idea of what I'm thinking of, take a look at http://docs.sun.com/. > > Take their "Hardware" and "Software" headings and replace them with > > "Books" and "Articles", and it's pretty close to the end product I have > > in mind. > > the first time i went thier and saw what they did it made me > wonder why we couldn't/didn't do it like that as well .. > cncdering we were supposed t be as 'mature' as teh sun crowd. We can. It's all a question of available time. FWIW, I'm not going to be able to do any of this for a couple of months at least -- the DocBook conversion of the other content has to happen first, and there are numerous other things on my plate that demand more of my time (a little hint; with a bit of luck the book "Teach yourself FreeBSD in 21 days" will be one of them). I'm throwing out comments now partly because I have some spare time to talk about it, and partly because someone else reading this might be able to pick up the ball and run with it now. > while i'm here .. have you looked at teh overal mess teh > freebsd website really is. sun (from memory) asks if you want a > text version and then gives the viewer a clean presentation. > > when i use lynx, the freebsd site is a vertitable nightmare to > navigate, maybe a checkpoint could be inserted and teh user > asked if a text version is required and a text version be > supplied if requsted. > > maybe my yetagain whine will become irrelevant onc3 i get and > start to use w3:amaya/toth combination .. but, lynx may still > be the one if this new gui fails to meet exectations. > > this whole issue of organisation is a subset of teh broder > problm od usability/readability. tackling teh one without the > any referance t its kindred spirit will produce yet another ork. As I say, it's a full time job. If anyone is interested in looking at the usability and organisation of the FreeBSD web site, go to it. Your first task would be to assess the current site, categorise the content on it, and work out how it's organised, and then come up with a new, better, organisation. Preferably an organisation with rules about what content goes where, and tries to anticipate likely new content to be added over the next 12-18 months, so that it doesn't descend in to another hodge-podge of content. After you've done that, post the organisation here (or put it up on the web, or something) so that other people can comment on it. After an iteration or two of this you hopefully have something that everyone likes. Then you go off and work out how to actually do the transition. Expect all this to take 3 months at least. I wish I was back in my first year at university. This is just the sort of thing I would have done. N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 5 3:48:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ikhala.tcimet.net (ikhala.tcimet.net [198.109.166.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63A215035 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Wed, 5 May 1999 03:48:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dervish@ikhala.tcimet.net) Received: (from dervish@localhost) by ikhala.tcimet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA99761 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 5 May 1999 07:10:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dervish) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 07:10:17 -0400 From: Natty Rebel <dervish@ikhala.tcimet.net> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: How to keep local docs current Message-ID: <19990505071017.A64013@ikhala.tcimet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 2C CE A5 D7 FA 4D D5 FD 9A CC 2B 23 04 46 48 F8 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Is there a way (ala cvsup) to keep ones local documents current with those on freebsd.org, or does one have to download the latest manually? #;^) -- natty rebel harder than the rest ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 5 3:58: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imap.ncsa.es (imap.ncsa.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE1114D85 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Wed, 5 May 1999 03:57:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from ender.ncsa.es (ender.ncsa.es [194.179.50.15]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA74326; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:57:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <XFMail.990505125743.jesusr@ncsa.es> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990505071017.A64013@ikhala.tcimet.net> Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 12:57:43 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez <jesusr@ncsa.es> To: Natty Rebel <dervish@ikhala.tcimet.net> Subject: RE: How to keep local docs current Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 05-May-99 Natty Rebel wrote: > Hello, > Is there a way (ala cvsup) to keep ones local documents current > with those on freebsd.org, or does one have to download the latest > manually? You can use cvsup and doc-all collection. This is my sup-file: doc-all release=cvs host=cvsup.es.freebsd.org base=/usr/sup prefix=/usr/cvs tag= . delete old use-rel-suffix compress JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 5 4: 4:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ikhala.tcimet.net (ikhala.tcimet.net [198.109.166.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51B071559E for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Wed, 5 May 1999 04:04:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dervish@ikhala.tcimet.net) Received: (from dervish@localhost) by ikhala.tcimet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA05235; Wed, 5 May 1999 07:24:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dervish) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 07:24:53 -0400 From: Natty Rebel <dervish@ikhala.tcimet.net> To: Jesus Rodriguez <jesusr@ncsa.es> Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to keep local docs current Message-ID: <19990505072425.B64013@ikhala.tcimet.net> References: <19990505071017.A64013@ikhala.tcimet.net> <XFMail.990505125743.jesusr@ncsa.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <XFMail.990505125743.jesusr@ncsa.es>; from Jesus Rodriguez on Wed, May 05, 1999 at 12:57:43PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 2C CE A5 D7 FA 4D D5 FD 9A CC 2B 23 04 46 48 F8 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoting Jesus Rodriguez (jesusr@ncsa.es): > > On 05-May-99 Natty Rebel wrote: > > Hello, > > Is there a way (ala cvsup) to keep ones local documents current > > with those on freebsd.org, or does one have to download the latest > > manually? > > You can use cvsup and doc-all collection. This is my sup-file: > > doc-all release=cvs host=cvsup.es.freebsd.org base=/usr/sup prefix=/usr/cvs tag= > . delete old use-rel-suffix compress thanxs, just what i needed. i'm running -current and i don't see an example supfile for doc. is there an reason for this? > > JesusR. > > #;^) -- natty rebel harder than the rest ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 5 4:26:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imap.ncsa.es (imap.ncsa.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645A91589F for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Wed, 5 May 1999 04:26:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from ender.ncsa.es (ender.ncsa.es [194.179.50.15]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA75099; Wed, 5 May 1999 13:24:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <XFMail.990505132413.jesusr@ncsa.es> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990505072425.B64013@ikhala.tcimet.net> Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 13:24:13 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez <jesusr@ncsa.es> To: Natty Rebel <dervish@ikhala.tcimet.net> Subject: Re: How to keep local docs current Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 05-May-99 Natty Rebel wrote: > Quoting Jesus Rodriguez (jesusr@ncsa.es): >> >> On 05-May-99 Natty Rebel wrote: >> > Hello, >> > Is there a way (ala cvsup) to keep ones local documents current >> > with those on freebsd.org, or does one have to download the latest >> > manually? >> >> You can use cvsup and doc-all collection. This is my sup-file: >> >> doc-all release=cvs host=cvsup.es.freebsd.org base=/usr/sup prefix=/usr/cvs >> tag= >> . delete old use-rel-suffix compress > thanxs, just what i needed. i'm running -current and i don't see an example > supfile for doc. is there an reason for this? I don't know... Nik, Wolfram, there is some posibility to commit www-supfile and doc-supfile examples to /usr/share/examples/cvsup ? JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 5 6:25: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cons.org (knight.cons.org [194.233.237.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED8714DB3 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Wed, 5 May 1999 06:25:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cracauer@cons.org) Received: (from cracauer@localhost) by cons.org (8.8.8/8.7.3) id PAA11088 for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 5 May 1999 15:25:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:25:01 +0200 From: Martin Cracauer <cracauer@cons.org> To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Which sgmlnorm to take? Message-ID: <19990505152500.A11077@cons.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The "jade" and "sp" ports both install `bin/sgmlnorm`. Which one is to be taken for the FreeBSD docproj? 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CALL NOW ! 888-837-8887 TOLL FREE ! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message Sent Using Aureate Group Mail Free Edition http://www.group-mail.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 6 13:51:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from liberty.ci.bedford.va.us (liberty.ci.bedford.va.us [208.206.84.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65904159F3 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:51:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from james@kites.org) Received: from james1 (brick.ci.bedford.va.us [208.206.84.3]) by liberty.ci.bedford.va.us (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA13282 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 6 May 1999 16:53:46 -0400 Message-Id: <199905062053.QAA13282@liberty.ci.bedford.va.us> X-Sender: james@208.206.84.4 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 16:50:55 -0400 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: James Ervin <james@kites.org> Subject: trouble reaching www.freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a case of "you can't get there from here", at least sometimes during the day. I just installed a copy of freeBSD and was using the resources at http://www.freebsd.org to get up to speed on the OS (a linux transplant). However, I can only hit the server part of the day. Three or four times an hour it just disappears. Here is a traceroute during the bad time: traceroute to freefall.freebsd.org (204.216.27.21), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 bedford-gw.cablenet-va.com (208.206.84.1) 18.081 ms 5.921 ms 12.735 ms 2 Loopback0.GW5.TCO1.Alter.Net (137.39.4.78) 34.605 ms 28.259 ms 47.660 ms 3 119.ATM2-0.XR2.TCO1.ALTER.NET (146.188.162.174) 27.833 ms 30.011 ms 18.548 ms 4 192.ATM9-0-0.BR1.TCO1.ALTER.NET (146.188.160.69) 40.933 ms 21.200 ms 17.701 ms 5 mae-e-1.e0.crl.com (192.41.177.104) 24.965 ms 17.237 ms 19.209 ms 6 vva-sfo.x.atm.us.crl.net (165.113.50.65) 83.919 ms 99.114 ms * 7 E0-CRL-SFO-03-E0X0.US.CRL.NET (165.113.55.3) 170.133 ms 103.076 ms 146.371 ms 8 T1-CDROM-00-EX.US.CRL.NET (165.113.118.2) 144.694 ms 139.112 ms 188.594 ms 9 * * * 10 * * * 11 * * * And here is one when it works: 1 bedford-gw.cablenet-va.com (208.206.84.1) 7.237 ms 7.156 ms 5.164 ms 2 Loopback0.GW5.TCO1.Alter.Net (137.39.4.78) 19.143 ms 30.247 ms 16.187 ms 3 119.ATM2-0.XR2.TCO1.ALTER.NET (146.188.162.174) 40.295 ms 14.594 ms 16.516 ms 4 192.ATM9-0-0.BR1.TCO1.ALTER.NET (146.188.160.69) 16.068 ms 17.483 ms 16.564 ms 5 mae-e-1.e0.crl.com (192.41.177.104) 19.189 ms 19.426 ms 19.957 ms 6 vva-sfo.x.atm.us.crl.net (165.113.50.65) 95.445 ms 85.057 ms 84.365 ms 7 E0-CRL-SFO-03-E0X0.US.CRL.NET (165.113.55.3) 99.418 ms 82.870 ms 90.326 ms 8 T1-CDROM-00-EX.US.CRL.NET (165.113.118.2) 562.174 ms 616.765 ms 614.295 ms 9 * * freefall.FreeBSD.ORG (204.216.27.21) 596.693 ms So, heads up FreeBSD, you upstream, T1-CDROM-00-EX.US.CRL.NET seems to be in and out of this world. end James Ervin City of Bedford Network Administration admin@ci.bedford.va.us (540)586-7156 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 6 13:58:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5FE15A36 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:58:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA285259055; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:44:15 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:44:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola <billf@chc-chimes.com> To: James Ervin <james@kites.org> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: trouble reaching www.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199905062053.QAA13282@liberty.ci.bedford.va.us> Message-Id: <Pine.HPP.3.96.990506124326.22675A-100000@hp9000.chc-chimes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 6 May 1999, James Ervin wrote: > I just installed a copy of freeBSD and was using the resources at > http://www.freebsd.org to get up to speed on the OS (a linux transplant). > However, I can only hit the server part of the day. Three or four times an > hour it just disappears. Here is a traceroute during the bad time: > So, heads up FreeBSD, you upstream, T1-CDROM-00-EX.US.CRL.NET seems to be > in and out of this world. Not really, try traceroute(8)ing to hub.freebsd.org or beast.freebsd.org, they're alive. freefall is experiencing some harsh NFS problems right now. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 6 22:44:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from news.ks.edu.tw (news.ks.edu.tw [163.16.1.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA478150FA; Thu, 6 May 1999 22:44:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from foxfair@news.ks.edu.tw) Received: from foxfair (foxfair.cc.nsysu.edu.tw [140.117.100.101]) by news.ks.edu.tw (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA97843; Fri, 7 May 1999 13:36:11 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from foxfair@news.ks.edu.tw) Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 13:45:05 +0800 From: Foxfair Hu <foxfair@news.ks.edu.tw> To: nik@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: doc/<lang>/books/*, doc/<lang>/articles/*, and docs.freebsd.org Message-Id: <37327DE13DE.BAEEFOXFAIR@news.ks.edu.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.04 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Nik, I had discussed the same structure like you thought in our Chinese documentation project few days ago , and we all agreed it is a good thought. But I am just very surprised at the same idea invoked by another one after few weeks. Which means this structure is really useful and it should be done ASAP. If no objection, I'll reorganize the doc/zh structure, move the existent (big5) FAQ into doc/zh/big5, and introduce a whole new version of FAQ into doc/zh/gb2312, which is encoded by GB2312(Simplified Chinese Character). I had finished to test it and create the files of both HTML and latin1 formats, looks fine and perfect. The GB2312 version of Chinese FAQ was translated by ningzhao@163.net. Because of local culture and encoding problem , we need to divide these two versions of Chinese FAQ(even the readers are all Chinese people) into different directory, I hope it won't confuse anyone in the future. I'll try to commit it done before 3.2-RELEASE shows up.(ports tree's frozen date is May 10th, but I don't know the deadline of src tree or doc tree ?) Cheers, -Foxfair To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 6 23: 5:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A0A14E23; Thu, 6 May 1999 23:05:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01276; Thu, 6 May 1999 23:06:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Foxfair Hu <foxfair@news.ks.edu.tw> Cc: nik@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: doc/<lang>/books/*, doc/<lang>/articles/*, and docs.freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 May 1999 13:45:05 +0800." <37327DE13DE.BAEEFOXFAIR@news.ks.edu.tw> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 23:06:20 -0700 Message-ID: <1272.926057180@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'll try to commit it done before 3.2-RELEASE shows up.(ports tree's > frozen date is May 10th, but I don't know the deadline of src tree or > doc tree ?) I don't know what date Nik's planning a doc freeze for, if he's planning one at all, but I can say that the -stable branch's src tree freeze date is also May 10th. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 7 2:28: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f79.hotmail.com [207.82.250.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 774BF14A14 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 7 May 1999 02:28:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dnv@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 5744 invoked by uid 0); 7 May 1999 09:28:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990507092854.5743.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.181.244.40 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 07 May 1999 02:28:54 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.181.244.40] From: "%%&%&DNV&%%&%& %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%" <dnv@hotmail.com> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: help?? Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 11:28:54 CEST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org HI I wanna know if you can help me get started with my freebsd 3.1 ? Let me tell you where I i'm (with FreeBSD) I have installed freebsd. and login into my system for the first time as root(root/password). now it writes something like: bash$ (I have seen your paper for newbies..so I know the unix-commands) But: I wanna use a Xwin ,like KDE or ICE. Can you tell me how I run it after installing from walnut creek cdrom. (I wanna use it as a workstation with Koffice or WP8) -Somebody told me I have to make some files somewhere (I think they wrote something like .xclients....but how?where?) -as A total newbie.....and new to unix So please Tell me step by step..... I hope you can help me....and maybe point me in the right way... your friend to the end... D* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 7 5:24:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.szptt.net.cn (unknown [202.96.134.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBEA214C29 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 7 May 1999 05:24:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from szkongrm@public.szptt.net.cn) Received: from ChinaNet ([202.104.99.53]) by smtp.szptt.net.cn (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id UAA03266 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 7 May 1999 20:32:34 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <000801be9884$9540a7a0$356368ca@szptt.net.cn> From: "WSun" <szkongrm@public.szptt.net.cn> To: <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Want Handbook Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 20:23:12 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BE98C7.6DF5ED20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BE98C7.6DF5ED20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Sirs, I want to download a FreeBSD Handbook instead of reading on Internet. = Can you help me? I am eagerly awaited. Yours Sincerely, Wang Haoche ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BE98C7.6DF5ED20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dgb2312" http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Sirs,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I want to download a FreeBSD Handbook = instead of=20 reading on Internet. Can you help me?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am eagerly awaited.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yours Sincerely,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wang Haoche</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BE98C7.6DF5ED20-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 7 5:45:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail10.svr.pol.co.uk (mail10.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E41414CFD for <doc@freebsd.org>; Fri, 7 May 1999 05:45:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@eborcom.com) Received: from modem-111.nabumatone.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.81.111] ident=[adTgHgVqvLR16x6sDWPR3qsztiaXJ9QB]) by mail10.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10fk0E-00009e-00 for doc@freebsd.org; Fri, 7 May 1999 13:45:18 +0100 Received: (qmail 7377 invoked by uid 5000); 7 May 1999 08:55:07 -0000 Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 09:55:07 +0100 From: Tom Hukins <tom@eborcom.com> To: Martin Cracauer <cracauer@cons.org> Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which sgmlnorm to take? Message-ID: <19990507095507.A6038@eborcom.com> Mail-Followup-To: Martin Cracauer <cracauer@cons.org>, doc@freebsd.org References: <19990505152500.A11077@cons.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990505152500.A11077@cons.org>; from Martin Cracauer on Wed, May 05, 1999 at 03:25:01PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 05, 1999 at 03:25:01PM +0200, Martin Cracauer wrote: > The "jade" and "sp" ports both install `bin/sgmlnorm`. Which one is to > be taken for the FreeBSD docproj? Jade. It's probably easiest to install the textproc/docproj meta-port which will install everything you need to work with the Documentation Project, including Jade. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 7 5:46:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blues.ghis.net (as1f-10.wag.interact.net.au [203.37.48.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28CF14CFD for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 7 May 1999 05:46:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@blues.ghis.net) Received: (from jim@localhost) by blues.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04814; Fri, 7 May 1999 22:42:40 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 22:42:39 +1000 From: Jim Mock <jim@blues.ghis.net> To: WSun <szkongrm@public.szptt.net.cn> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Want Handbook Message-ID: <19990507224239.A4759@blues.ghis.net> Reply-To: jim@blues.ghis.net References: <000801be9884$9540a7a0$356368ca@szptt.net.cn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <000801be9884$9540a7a0$356368ca@szptt.net.cn> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 07 May 1999 at 20:23:12 +0800, WSun wrote: > Dear Sirs, > I want to download a FreeBSD Handbook instead of reading on > Internet. Can you help me? I am eagerly awaited. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc -- Jim Mock System Administrator jim@blues.ghis.net ,-._|\ FreeBSD work: Global Hosting Inet Svcs http://www.ghis.net/ / \ The personal: http://www.ghis.net/~jim/ \_,--._/ Power To The FreeBSD 'zine http://www.freebsdzine.org/ v Serve! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 7 9:40:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A12C1543A for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 7 May 1999 09:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA73372; Fri, 7 May 1999 09:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.nk.rim.or.jp (mail.nk.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235E31521C for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Fri, 7 May 1999 09:30:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuma@nk.rim.or.jp) Received: from laurel.nk.rim.or.jp (JYOcc-01p28.ppp.odn.ad.jp [143.90.98.28]) by mail.nk.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id BAA13988 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Sat, 8 May 1999 01:30:26 +0900 (JST) Received: by laurel.nk.rim.or.jp (8.9.2/8.9.2oasis990320) id BAA01901; Sat, 8 May 1999 01:14:00 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199905071614.BAA01901@laurel.nk.rim.or.jp> Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 01:14:00 +0900 (JST) From: kuma@jp.freebsd.org Reply-To: kuma@jp.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11561: another dhclient.conf.5 typo Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11561 >Category: docs >Synopsis: a typo in dhclient.conf.5 man-pages >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri May 7 09:40:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Norihiro Kumagai >Release: 3.0-STABLE-990501-SNAP >Organization: FreeBSD Japanese Manual Translation Project >Environment: 3.0-STABLE-990501-SNAP (and later) >Description: a typo which causes unnecessary line break in dhclient.conf.5 man-pages. >How-To-Repeat: (snip) >Fix: Please apply the following diff --- dhclient.conf.5-en~ Wed May 5 15:19:18 1999 +++ dhclient.conf.5-en Sat May 8 01:04:40 1999 @@ -179,7 +179,7 @@ There is a variety of data contained in offers that DHCP servers send to DHCP clients. The data that can be specifically requested is what are called \fIDHCP Options\fR. DHCP Options are defined in - \fBdhcp-options(5)\fR. +\fBdhcp-options(5)\fR. .PP .I The .B request >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 7 15:37:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D2414BEA for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 7 May 1999 15:37:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id UAA02617; Fri, 7 May 1999 20:33:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 20:33:31 +0100 From: Nik Clayton <nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk> To: WSun <szkongrm@public.szptt.net.cn> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Want Handbook Message-ID: <19990507203331.A1607@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <000801be9884$9540a7a0$356368ca@szptt.net.cn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <000801be9884$9540a7a0$356368ca@szptt.net.cn>; from WSun on Fri, May 07, 1999 at 08:23:12PM +0800 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 08:23:12PM +0800, WSun wrote: > I want to download a FreeBSD Handbook instead of reading on Internet. > Can you help me? ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/ I'm working on having those files automatically update once a day. N -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 7 15:38: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD61715A80; Fri, 7 May 1999 15:37:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id UAA03881; Fri, 7 May 1999 20:43:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 20:43:42 +0100 From: Nik Clayton <nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk> To: Foxfair Hu <foxfair@news.ks.edu.tw> Cc: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: doc/<lang>/books/*, doc/<lang>/articles/*, and docs.freebsd.org Message-ID: <19990507204342.C1607@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <37327DE13DE.BAEEFOXFAIR@news.ks.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <37327DE13DE.BAEEFOXFAIR@news.ks.edu.tw>; from Foxfair Hu on Fri, May 07, 1999 at 01:45:05PM +0800 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 01:45:05PM +0800, Foxfair Hu wrote: > I had discussed the same structure like you thought in > our Chinese documentation project few days ago , and > we all agreed it is a good thought. But I am just very surprised > at the same idea invoked by another one after few weeks. > Which means this structure is really useful and it should be done > ASAP. OK. Response to this idea has been positive, so I'll start moving things to it. > If no objection, I'll reorganize the doc/zh structure, move the > existent (big5) FAQ into doc/zh/big5, and introduce a whole > new version of FAQ into doc/zh/gb2312, which is encoded by > GB2312(Simplified Chinese Character). I had finished to test it > and create the files of both HTML and latin1 formats, looks fine > and perfect. The GB2312 version of Chinese FAQ was translated by > ningzhao@163.net. Because of local culture and encoding problem > , we need to divide these two versions of Chinese FAQ(even the > readers are all Chinese people) into different directory, I hope it > won't confuse anyone in the future. OK. Can you hold off on this for a bit. I've got an incoming French Handbook to finish looking at and import, and the freeze for 3.2 happening in a few days. This freeze doesn't directly affect the FDP, but I'm wary of big changes happening around now in case it causes more hassle for the release engineer. What'll do is: 1. Sort out some changes to the French Handbook, and get them back to to the French Doc. Proj. for review. 2. Move doc/en/handbook to doc/en/books/handbook 3. Move doc/en/tutorials/docproj-primer to doc/en/books/FDP-primer Then we can sort out the translations, including the Chinese ones. OK? N -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 7 15:38:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F9B15CB7; Fri, 7 May 1999 15:38:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id UAA02872; Fri, 7 May 1999 20:35:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 20:35:34 +0100 From: Nik Clayton <nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> Cc: Foxfair Hu <foxfair@news.ks.edu.tw>, nik@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: doc/<lang>/books/*, doc/<lang>/articles/*, and docs.freebsd.org Message-ID: <19990507203534.B1607@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <37327DE13DE.BAEEFOXFAIR@news.ks.edu.tw> <1272.926057180@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <1272.926057180@zippy.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Thu, May 06, 1999 at 11:06:20PM -0700 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, May 06, 1999 at 11:06:20PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I'll try to commit it done before 3.2-RELEASE shows up.(ports tree's > > frozen date is May 10th, but I don't know the deadline of src tree or > > doc tree ?) > > I don't know what date Nik's planning a doc freeze for, if he's > planning one at all, but I can say that the -stable branch's src tree > freeze date is also May 10th. I wasn't planning a doc freeze as such, no. Given that the doc/ tree isn't branched, there's probably not much point. N -- There's some milk in the fridge about to go off. . . and there it goes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri May 7 18: 3:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay05.netaddress.usa.net (relay05.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB9E214EA7 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Fri, 7 May 1999 18:03:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john=galt@usa.net) Received: (qmail 16358 invoked from network); 8 May 1999 01:03:41 -0000 Received: from www0g.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.36) by outbound.netaddress.usa.net with SMTP; 8 May 1999 01:03:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 22814 invoked by uid 60001); 8 May 1999 01:03:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990508010340.22813.qmail@www0g.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.36 by www0g via web-mailer(M3.0.0.118) on Sat May 8 01:03:40 GMT 1999 Date: 7 May 99 19:03:40 MDT From: <john=galt@usa.net> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, krr@onelist.com Subject: Free Bsd install X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.118) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Salutations. I am trying to install freeBSD on a Pentium 75Mhz with 8mb I Imaged the two floppies then booted = I went fine until it said -- Probing ... (this may take a while) I waited 8 hours and nothing happened How long should it take? Any help would be appreciated. = john=3Dgalt@usa.net ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 3:23: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.svr.pol.co.uk (mail2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B0015296 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Sat, 8 May 1999 03:23:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@eborcom.com) Received: from modem-104.biaxin.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.55.104] ident=[MxWJozeNrUnFg9lbx7PKscenXaCN812G]) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10g4G8-0005h1-00 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 8 May 1999 11:23:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 8808 invoked by uid 5000); 7 May 1999 12:57:44 -0000 Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:57:43 +0100 From: Tom Hukins <tom@eborcom.com> To: WSun <szkongrm@public.szptt.net.cn> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Want Handbook Message-ID: <19990507135743.A8767@eborcom.com> Mail-Followup-To: WSun <szkongrm@public.szptt.net.cn>, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <000801be9884$9540a7a0$356368ca@szptt.net.cn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <000801be9884$9540a7a0$356368ca@szptt.net.cn>; from WSun on Fri, May 07, 1999 at 08:23:12PM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 08:23:12PM +0800, WSun wrote: > I want to download a FreeBSD Handbook instead of reading on > Internet. Can you help me? The front page of the Handbook <http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/> contains the following: The latest version of this document is always available from the FreeBSD World Wide Web server. It may also be downloaded in a variety of formats and compression options from the FreeBSD FTP server or one of the numerous mirror sites. Have you tried following any of the links in this text? You should have no problem downloading the Handbook in a suitable format. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 8:20: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD03E154E0 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 8 May 1999 08:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA84164; Sat, 8 May 1999 08:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from kaa.kfunigraz.ac.at (KAA16.kfunigraz.ac.at [143.50.16.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D871315646 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Sat, 8 May 1999 08:13:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dada@balu.kfunigraz.ac.at) Received: from balu.kfunigraz.ac.at (balu [143.50.16.16]) by kaa.kfunigraz.ac.at (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA01865 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Sat, 8 May 1999 17:13:05 +0200 (MDT) Received: from localhost.kfunigraz.ac.at (IDENT:GHNOdgKPrp+Wn5K5yfuNR145DLPaTR25@BONLINEA45.kfunigraz.ac.at [143.50.36.45]) by balu.kfunigraz.ac.at (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA10979 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Sat, 8 May 1999 17:13:44 +0200 (MDT) Received: (from dada@localhost) by localhost.kfunigraz.ac.at (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13739; Fri, 7 May 1999 15:21:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dada) Message-Id: <199905071321.PAA13739@localhost.kfunigraz.ac.at> Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 15:21:00 +0200 (CEST) From: dada@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at Reply-To: dada@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11582: bug in ip(4) manpage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11582 >Category: docs >Synopsis: bug in ip(4) manpage >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat May 8 08:20:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Martin Kammerhofer >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386 >Organization: Graz University of Technology >Environment: >Description: From ip(4) manpage: IP_PORTRANGE may be used to set the port range used for selecting a local port number on a socket with an unspecified (zero) port number. It has the following possible values: IP_PORTRANGE_DEFAULT use the default range of values, normally IPPORT_RESERVED through IPPORT_RESERVED. This is ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ adjustable through the sysctl setting: net.inet.ip.portrange.first and net.inet.ip.portrange.last. This range description does not make sense. >How-To-Repeat: man 4 ip >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 9: 4: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87789153D3; Sat, 8 May 1999 09:04:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from foxfair@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from foxfair@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA95588; Sat, 8 May 1999 09:04:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from foxfair@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 09:04:06 -0700 (PDT) From: <foxfair@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199905081604.JAA95588@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, foxfair@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/9707: New entry for FAQ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: New entry for FAQ State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: foxfair State-Changed-When: Sat May 8 09:03:26 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Comiitted in admin.sgml rev 1.22, thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 9:50: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2509715138 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 8 May 1999 09:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA08172; Sat, 8 May 1999 09:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sleipnir.watson.org (SLEIPNIR.RES.CMU.EDU [128.2.91.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1097214CC4 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Sat, 8 May 1999 09:46:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@sleipnir.watson.org) Received: (from robert@localhost) by sleipnir.watson.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA04822; Sat, 8 May 1999 12:46:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert) Message-Id: <199905081646.MAA04822@sleipnir.watson.org> Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 12:46:54 -0400 (EDT) From: robert@fledge.watson.org Reply-To: robert+freebsd@cyrus.watson.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/11589: aio_read man page bugs Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 11589 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Missing #includes in aio_read(2) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat May 8 09:50:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Robert Watson >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: -current shortly before the egcs switch, attempting to write a program using aio_read >Description: The man page only references aio.h in the list of includes in the synopsis. In reality, it also requires <sys/time.h> >How-To-Repeat: #include <aio.h> without including <sys/time.h> >Fix: Add #include <sys/time.h> to the synopsis section above the include of aio.h >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 10:27:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D9C14BD6; Sat, 8 May 1999 10:27:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from tom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA15994; Sat, 8 May 1999 10:27:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 10:27:15 -0700 (PDT) From: <tom@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199905081727.KAA15994@freefall.freebsd.org> To: tom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, tom@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11098: FAQ Update: Database systems for FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: FAQ Update: Database systems for FreeBSD Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->tom Responsible-Changed-By: tom Responsible-Changed-When: Sat May 8 10:26:12 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Submitter is now a committer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 10:29:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8049214BD6; Sat, 8 May 1999 10:29:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from tom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA16734; Sat, 8 May 1999 10:29:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 10:29:34 -0700 (PDT) From: <tom@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199905081729.KAA16734@freefall.freebsd.org> To: tom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, tom@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/11102: [Patch] Handbook: Minor spelling correction Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [Patch] Handbook: Minor spelling correction Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->tom Responsible-Changed-By: tom Responsible-Changed-When: Sat May 8 10:28:24 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Submitter is now a committer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 11:45: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.sysnet.net.tw (mail.sysnet.net.tw [210.67.33.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E3115246 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 8 May 1999 11:44:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevlo@hello.com.tw) Received: from hello.com.tw (p210-67-40-103.ts.sysnet.net.tw [210.67.40.103]) by mail.sysnet.net.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA13075 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sun, 9 May 1999 02:44:55 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <373485E0.1FACCF2F@hello.com.tw> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 02:43:44 +0800 From: Kevin Lo <kevlo@hello.com.tw> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FAQ team. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, folks, Because the FAQ doesn't maintain for the long time. As Jordan suggests, he wants to have *multiple* maintainers, a "FAQ team". I am a first willing member. Would anyone want to join this team? Best regards, Kevin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 12:10:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail-gw2adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (mail-gw2.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7043715657 for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 8 May 1999 12:10:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ppp-207-193-12-42.hstntx.swbell.net [207.193.12.42]) by mail-gw2adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19377 for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 8 May 1999 14:10:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20387 for doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 8 May 1999 14:11:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 14:11:41 -0500 From: Chris Costello <chris@holly.dyndns.org> To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Can't build handbook Message-ID: <19990508141141.A20366@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just recently CVSupped the handbook tree again, made some modifications to a file, and attempted to build it. 'make' resulted in the following error (separated by blank lines for convenience): /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -c /usr/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/3.0/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /usr/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl -t sgml handbook.sgml /usr/local/bin/jade:handbook.sgml:12:0:E: cannot open "/usr/doc/share/sgml/../../en/share/sgml/bookinfo.ent" (No such file or directory) /usr/local/bin/jade:handbook.sgml:46:5:E: general entity "bookinfo.legalnotice" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/jade:introduction/chapter.sgml:338:0:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:introduction/chapter.sgml:340:60:E: end tag for element "PARA" which is not open -- Chris Costello <chris@calldei.com> Make sure all variables are initialized before use. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 12:16:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2BD715670 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 8 May 1999 12:16:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22950; Sat, 8 May 1999 12:15:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Kevin Lo <kevlo@hello.com.tw> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FAQ team. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 09 May 1999 02:43:44 +0800." <373485E0.1FACCF2F@hello.com.tw> Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 12:15:39 -0700 Message-ID: <22946.926190939@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I am a first willing member. Would anyone want to join this team? This is always a great way to start things out - with at least one hand in the air. :) Once you have basically collected together your initial starting team, please let me know and I'll add you to the faq-maintainers@freebsd.org alias so that you can starting discussing your diffs to the FAQ and get the process underway! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 12:19:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail-gw3adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (mail-gw3.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321F0156C8 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 8 May 1999 12:19:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ppp-207-193-12-42.hstntx.swbell.net [207.193.12.42]) by mail-gw3adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15876; Sat, 8 May 1999 14:19:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20445; Sat, 8 May 1999 14:20:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 14:20:21 -0500 From: Chris Costello <chris@holly.dyndns.org> To: Kevin Lo <kevlo@hello.com.tw> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FAQ team. Message-ID: <19990508142021.C20366@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: chris@calldei.com References: <373485E0.1FACCF2F@hello.com.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.1i In-Reply-To: <373485E0.1FACCF2F@hello.com.tw>; from Kevin Lo on Sun, May 09, 1999 at 02:43:44AM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, May 8, 1999, Kevin Lo wrote: > Hi, folks, > > Because the FAQ doesn't maintain for the long time. As Jordan suggests, > he wants to have *multiple* maintainers, a "FAQ team". > > I am a first willing member. Would anyone want to join this team? I wouldn't mind, but I'm already making myself busy with the handbook and the 'custom-packages' project that I came up with (discussing, not working -- yet), but I have an unusually large amount of time on my hands, so I'll contribute wherever I can. > > Best regards, > Kevin. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Chris Costello <chris@calldei.com> A fault tolerant system must report the faults even as it tolerates them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 12:26:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imap.ncsa.es (imap.ncsa.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F05D156A8 for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 8 May 1999 12:26:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from ender.ncsa.es (ender.ncsa.es [194.179.50.15]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA70638; Sat, 8 May 1999 21:26:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <XFMail.990508212539.jesusr@ncsa.es> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990508141141.A20366@holly.dyndns.org> Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 21:25:39 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez <jesusr@ncsa.es> To: chris@calldei.com Subject: RE: Can't build handbook Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 08-May-99 Chris Costello wrote: > I just recently CVSupped the handbook tree again, made some > modifications to a file, and attempted to build it. 'make' > resulted in the following error (separated by blank lines for > convenience): > > /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -c > /usr/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c > /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c > /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/3.0/catalog -c > /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /usr/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl -t > sgml handbook.sgml Hello... Use make DOC_PREFIX=/where_your_doc_tree_is If it's in /usr/cvs/doc use: make DOC_PREFIX=/usr/cvs/doc JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 8 12:32: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail-gw3adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (mail-gw3.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D8315320 for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 8 May 1999 12:32:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ppp-207-193-12-42.hstntx.swbell.net [207.193.12.42]) by mail-gw3adm.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23239; Sat, 8 May 1999 14:31:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20567; Sat, 8 May 1999 14:33:08 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 14:33:07 -0500 From: Chris Costello <chris@holly.dyndns.org> To: Jesus Rodriguez <jesusr@ncsa.es> Cc: chris@calldei.com, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't build handbook Message-ID: <19990508143307.D20366@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: chris@calldei.com References: <19990508141141.A20366@holly.dyndns.org> <XFMail.990508212539.jesusr@ncsa.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.1i In-Reply-To: <XFMail.990508212539.jesusr@ncsa.es>; from Jesus Rodriguez on Sat, May 08, 1999 at 09:25:39PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, May 8, 1999, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > > On 08-May-99 Chris Costello wrote: > > I just recently CVSupped the handbook tree again, made some > > modifications to a file, and attempted to build it. 'make' > > resulted in the following error (separated by blank lines for > > convenience): > > > > /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -c > > /usr/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c > > /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c > > /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/3.0/catalog -c > > /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /usr/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl -t > > sgml handbook.sgml > > Hello... > > Use make DOC_PREFIX=/where_your_doc_tree_is > > If it's in /usr/cvs/doc use: > > make DOC_PREFIX=/usr/cvs/doc No, but that does make for another error: # make DOC_PREFIX=/usr/doc ===> FAQ sgmlfmt -f html -links /usr/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml sgmlfmt -f latin1 -links /usr/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml sgmlfmt -f ascii -links /usr/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml FAQ.trf:7587: warning: can't find special character `:i' FAQ.trf:7587: warning: can't find special character `:i' > > JesusR. -- Chris Costello <chris@calldei.com> All the simple programs have been written, and all the good names taken. 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