From owner-freebsd-hubs Sun Jan 17 04:07:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA09503 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:07:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA09497 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:07:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca36-130.ix.netcom.com [207.92.172.130]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA13876; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:04:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.1/8.6.9) id EAA54062; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:04:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:04:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901171204.EAA54062@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com CC: rodolfo@ravel.ufrj.br, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com, dg@root.com In-reply-to: <89640.916264297@zippy.cdrom.com> (jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * It got back-burnered but it's only list of things to do. Consider it * something which will happen next Friday night, after I get back from * New Jersey. By the way, do you have an updated timetable for this? :) Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sun Jan 17 04:39:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA13513 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:39:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA13498; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:39:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA31823; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:39:43 -0800 (PST) To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) cc: rodolfo@ravel.ufrj.br, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com, dg@root.com Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:04:05 PST." <199901171204.EAA54062@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:39:42 -0800 Message-ID: <31819.916576782@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It's already done. However, we *really* need to get things updated ASAP so that we can retire the forest of symlink clutter which has replaced the directory clutter that was formerly there. :-( The packages/ports stuff is the worst offender, though sysinstall also requires that the current position for 3.0-RELEASE and 2.2.8-RELEASE be maintained (by symlink) and means we won't be able to nuke those symlinks until these releases vanish from wcarchive. - Jordan > * It got back-burnered but it's only list of things to do. Consider it > * something which will happen next Friday night, after I get back from > * New Jersey. > > By the way, do you have an updated timetable for this? :) > > Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sun Jan 17 04:52:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA14628 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:52:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA14619 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:52:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca36-130.ix.netcom.com [207.92.172.130]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA13921; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:52:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.1/8.6.9) id EAA54210; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:52:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:52:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901171252.EAA54210@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com CC: rodolfo@ravel.ufrj.br, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com, dg@root.com In-reply-to: <31819.916576782@zippy.cdrom.com> (jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * It's already done. However, we *really* need to get things updated You mean "I just did it since you reminded me". It still had the old organization when I checked just before I sent the original e-mail. :) * ASAP so that we can retire the forest of symlink clutter which has * replaced the directory clutter that was formerly there. :-( The * packages/ports stuff is the worst offender, though sysinstall also I deleted all the ports/packages symlinks at the top, except "packages", which is left merely as a guide to someone who might stumble into pub/FreeBSD and wonder where the hell all the packages are gone. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sun Jan 17 06:17:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19518 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 06:17:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spa.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp (lab4img2.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp [130.54.23.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19507 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 06:17:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shige@kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp) Received: from localhost (sirahama [130.54.22.177]) by spa.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp (8.8.8/3.7Wspa) with ESMTP id XAA28646; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:16:53 +0900 (JST) To: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com Cc: shige@kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:31:59 -0800 (PST)" <199901131831.KAA14584@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> References: <199901131831.KAA14584@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 20.3 / Mule 4.0 =?iso-2022-jp?B?KBskQjJWMWMbKEIp?= X-Prom-Mew: Prom-Mew 1.93 (procmail reader for Mew) X-URL: http://www.yuasa.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~shige/ X-fingerprint: C8 BD 6A A7 CF FF 74 88 A4 B2 CC 5F C7 61 5C 9A X-Pgp-Public-Key-URL: http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x56B99BF9 X-Face-Version: X-Face utility v1.3.2 - "The Fool On The Hill" X-Face: 34/1@t8]M!wP}sAw$~XQMzl5'O=lCIM]8=_8CE,|S)Vs4Wy@tU~A'wRi\lgWh-o&'|:zg>Gc?0?{^jo8(|5'Tg`yBH81.:!N9tSq*Sp6>C0q@{|&+FaM;R;KkoW1jA?QIWQ3:gNq {O%`:ww Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990117231644X.shige@kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:16:44 +0900 (JST) From: Shigeyuki FUKUSHIMA X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 24 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:31:59 -0800 (PST) Title: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD Message-ID: <199901131831.KAA14584@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> In ports directory: architecture -> release number > ports/ > alpha/ > packages-3.0.1/ > i386/ > packages-3.0.1/ In release directory: release number -> architecture > releases/ > 3.0.1-RELEASE/ > alpha/ > i386/ Why by different way ? --------- Shigeyuki FUKUSHIMA PGP Public Key: http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x56B99BF9 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sun Jan 17 12:55:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28726 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:55:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28720; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:55:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA32832; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:56:04 -0800 (PST) To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) cc: rodolfo@ravel.ufrj.br, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com, dg@root.com Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:52:00 PST." <199901171252.EAA54210@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:56:03 -0800 Message-ID: <32828.916606563@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > * It's already done. However, we *really* need to get things updated > > You mean "I just did it since you reminded me". It still had the old > organization when I checked just before I sent the original e-mail. :) Naw, Dima had already beaten you to it. :) > I deleted all the ports/packages symlinks at the top, except > "packages", which is left merely as a guide to someone who might > stumble into pub/FreeBSD and wonder where the hell all the packages > are gone. Cool, thanks! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sun Jan 17 17:34:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA10768 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:34:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA10760 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:33:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason@piglet.dstc.edu.au) Received: (from jason@localhost) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA32230 for hubs@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:33:51 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade Message-Id: <199901180133.LAA32230@piglet.dstc.edu.au> Subject: hard links in freebsd archive ? To: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:33:50 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org is there any use of hard links in the freebsd archive ? curious because there has been some discussion of this for other archives. cheers, -jason -- jason andrade dstc pty ltd jason@dstc.edu.au senior sysadmin level 7, GPS Building 78 i just wanna be phn +61-7-33654307 university of queensland bluemisty fax +61-7-33654311 queensland 4072 australia and barefooted To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Jan 18 02:46:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA24370 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:46:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from localhost (gserver.com [209.180.80.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA24362 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:46:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from surfchina@gserver.com) Received: (surfchina@localhost) by gserver.com (8.8.8) id DAA21855; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 03:51:06 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 03:51:06 -0700 (MST) From: surfchina@gserver.com (Surf China) Message-Id: <199901181051.DAA21855@gserver.com> To: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SurfChina.com - Search Engine for China Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear friend, Do you ever wonder where to find information about China? 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To find out more about this service, please visit http://www.surfchina.com/stats/ Sincerely yours, SurfChina.com team To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Jan 19 19:43:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22621 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:43:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (dryad.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22605; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:43:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: from ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.156.43]) by mail.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.6/3.4Wbeta6-SAT1.0) with ESMTP id MAA22774; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 12:42:56 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: from localhost by ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.8/sat-V0.6) id MAA22161; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 12:42:56 +0900 (JST) To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com, dg@root.com Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:52:00 -0800 (PST)" <199901171252.EAA54210@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> References: <199901171252.EAA54210@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> X-Face: OE([KxWyJI0r[R~S/>7ia}SJ)i%a,$-9%7{*yihQk|]gl}2p#"oXmX/fT}Bn7:#j7i14gu$ jgR\S*&C3R/pJX Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 12:42:55 +0900 From: Hidetoshi Shimokawa X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 11 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This may be off-topic, but could you put the result of du of /pub/FreeBSD on ftp.cdrom.com? It must be nice for new mirror and sites which have not enough disk and want to do selective mirror. I think running 'du -k -d 3 > disk-usage' weekly should be enough. /\ Hidetoshi Shimokawa \/ simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp PGP public key: finger -l simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Jan 19 20:18:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA26522 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:18:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA26516 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:18:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca7-31.ix.netcom.com [209.109.235.31]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA17638; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:17:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.1/8.6.9) id UAA83670; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:17:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:17:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901200417.UAA83670@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp CC: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com, dg@root.com In-reply-to: <19990120124255J.simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp> (message from Hidetoshi Shimokawa on Wed, 20 Jan 1999 12:42:55 +0900) Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * This may be off-topic, but could you put the result of du of /pub/FreeBSD * on ftp.cdrom.com? It must be nice for new mirror and sites which have not * enough disk and want to do selective mirror. * I think running 'du -k -d 3 > disk-usage' weekly should be enough. I think that's a good idea. If nobody objects, I'll do this with cron from my account. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Jan 20 04:53:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA26366 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 04:53:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from romberg.math.ntnu.no (romberg.math.ntnu.no [129.241.15.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA26352 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 04:53:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from arnej@math.ntnu.no) Received: (qmail 11225 invoked by uid 27959); 20 Jan 1999 12:52:53 -0000 Date: 20 Jan 1999 12:52:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19990120125253.11224.qmail@romberg.math.ntnu.no> From: "Arne H. Juul" To: jason@dstc.edu.au, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com Subject: mirroring (was Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD) Cc: asami@cs.berkeley.edu, dg@root.com, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, hubs@au.freebsd.org, qmirror-mirrors@dstc.edu.au, rodolfo@ravel.ufrj.br Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > on Wed Jan 13, jason andrade wrote: > > i want to avoid just deleting/redownloading everything because of cost > and now more urgently, time to update. my FreeBSD mirror currently > starts at 8AM (EST) and finishes in the vicinity of 2-6PM :-( whilst > using between 40-75M of memory. I don't know what the speed of the US-Australia link is, but the memory usage number here is just ridiculous. I'm currently in the process of setting up a full FTP mirror of /pub/FreeBSD here, and my fmirror processes rarely go above 500kb, yes kilobytes, of memory usage. Another good test is the "empty update" time: try doing two updates back-to-back. Provided you use the ls-lR.gz file from ftp.freebsd.org you won't place much load on the remote server, and most of the time should be used for parsing the ls listing and checking that your local files are up to date. I did one this morning (FreeBSD without ports, which is about 4GB and lots of small files) and my machine used ~20 minutes for getting the ls-lR.gz file, unpacking it, parsing it, and checking the local files. Then another minute trying to get unreadable files from the master. This is on an old 30MHz MIPS R3000 machine, so you can probably do better :-) So get fmirror, get it today, and you can get it from one of these: ftp.guardian.no:/pub/free/ftp/fmirror/ ftp.sunet.se:/pub/nir/ftp/utilities/fmirror/ (if you get the latest testing version you may notice I've even started contributing some MDTM support to fmirror, so I'm somewhat self-promoting here :-) Note to freebsd-maintainers: should these files have been world readable? 550 FreeBSD-current/xperimnt/T3X/README.TXT: Permission denied. 550 FreeBSD-current/xperimnt/T3X/t3x-r5-3.tgz: Permission denied. 550 FreeBSD-stable/xperimnt/T3X/README.TXT: Permission denied. 550 FreeBSD-stable/xperimnt/T3X/t3x-r5-3.tgz: Permission denied. 550 development/ports/chinese/zh-CJK.tar.gz: Permission denied. 550 development/ports/net/nessus.ports.980914.tgz: Permission denied. - Arne H. J. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Jan 21 17:21:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01779 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:21:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01760; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:21:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason@piglet.dstc.edu.au) Received: (from jason@localhost) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA20932; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:21:08 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade Message-Id: <199901220121.LAA20932@piglet.dstc.edu.au> Subject: new dist area ? To: freebsd-maintainers@FreeBSD.ORG, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:21:07 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org my mirror's picking up a new directory in the freebsd area called "branches" with drwxr-xr-x 11 mirror mirror 512 Jan 22 10:29 -current drwxr-xr-x 6 mirror mirror 512 Jan 22 09:38 2.2-stable drwxr-xr-x 4 mirror mirror 512 Jan 22 09:38 3.0-stable what sort of disk usage is this going to take ? :-( -jason -- jason andrade dstc pty ltd jason@dstc.edu.au senior sysadmin level 7, GPS Building 78 i just wanna be phn +61-7-33654307 university of queensland bluemisty fax +61-7-33654311 queensland 4072 australia and barefooted To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Jan 22 18:07:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA22719 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:07:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from romberg.math.ntnu.no (romberg.math.ntnu.no [129.241.15.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA22708 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:07:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from arnej@math.ntnu.no) Received: (qmail 20836 invoked by uid 27959); 23 Jan 1999 02:07:09 -0000 Date: 23 Jan 1999 02:07:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990123020709.20835.qmail@romberg.math.ntnu.no> From: "Arne H. Juul" To: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: /pub/FreeBSD/ports/ Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, after several days of trying to find up-to-date mirrors with somewhat near-OK connections to here, and lots of manual mirroring, I seem to be up-to-date with the new 7-Gig /pub/FreeBSD/ports directory with packages and distfiles as it now is on ftp.freebsd.org. (If there's going to be any more reorganizations of this hierarchy, please give a note on freebsd-hubs?) With the current update frequency (1.8 gigabytes of new files in ports/ during the last week) and throughput from ftp.freebsd.org to here (7-20 KB/s) there's no way I can stay updated automatically without running mirroring continuously. So I think I'll set my machine to mirror off ftp.sunet.se or some other nearby mirror once they are up to date. Are there any US-East Coast full mirrors who will provide all this stuff we could use? It looks like our bandwidth to the east coast is *much* better than to the west coast. If anybody in Scandinavia (or maybe even Europe) wants to use this server to get a rough snapshot of the ports/ directory before trying to mirror off the master (or some more official mirrors) they are welcome to use "eufrat.pvv.ntnu.no", still very experimental but if it can save some time for you... go ahead. - Arne H. J. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Jan 22 18:34:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA26568 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:34:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from huset.math.ntnu.no (huset.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA26542 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:34:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from arnej@math.ntnu.no) Received: (qmail 24465 invoked by uid 27959); 23 Jan 1999 02:34:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990123023417.24464.qmail@huset.math.ntnu.no> Date: 23 Jan 1999 03:34:17 +0100 From: "Arne H. Juul" To: jason@dstc.edu.au Cc: freebsd-maintainers@FreeBSD.ORG, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, arnej@math.ntnu.no Subject: Re: new dist area ? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:21:07 +1000 (EST)" <199901220121.LAA20932@piglet.dstc.edu.au> References: <199901220121.LAA20932@piglet.dstc.edu.au> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.92.4 on Emacs 19.34 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org jason andrade wrote: > my mirror's picking up a new directory in the freebsd area > called "branches" with > > drwxr-xr-x 11 mirror mirror 512 Jan 22 10:29 -current > drwxr-xr-x 6 mirror mirror 512 Jan 22 09:38 2.2-stable > drwxr-xr-x 4 mirror mirror 512 Jan 22 09:38 3.0-stable > > what sort of disk usage is this going to take ? :-( it looks like some things have moved: FreeBSD-current -> branches/-current FreeBSD-stable -> branches/2.2-stable (new) branches/3.0-stable There are a couple of things I don't understand about the first of these, though. According to the README it's supposed to contain sources, and there's a supfile.cvsup which could be used to get the same sources via cvsup. But there are some directories which doesn't look like sources (and can I get them via cvsup at all?) XF86332 - binaries? XF86333 - binaries? commerce - binaries? xperimnt - packed sources? misc stuff? If these aren't part of a CVS branch, it's somewhat counter-intuitive having them in branches/-current. At least the README file needs to be updated to explain what they are and why they're here (like: these are here for historical reasons :-) - Arne H. J. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat Jan 23 15:40:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02594 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:40:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lab1.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp (century.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp [130.54.22.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02589 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:40:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matchan@kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp) Received: from localhost (matchan@cosmo [130.54.22.82]) by lab1.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp (8.8.8+2.7Wbeta7/3.6W-century) with ESMTP id IAA01021; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 08:39:50 +0900 (JST) To: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, dg@root.com Cc: matchan@kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp Subject: Why 2.2.8-RELEASE/packages -> ports/i386/packages-3-stable ? From: Hiroaki MATSUMOTO (=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCPj5LXBsoQiAbJEJCWUxAGyhC?=) X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 =?iso-2022-jp?B?KBskQkt2RSYyVhsoQik=?= X-URL: http://www.lab1.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp/members/matchan/ Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Face: 2i'm.M0UyETCme?'R/?fE}i)R-aY$t;].MSLwmUfB"^3H+so!vO79{mzviSR4#DM+}""ZwM OJ~e&Rr*qL'CrQZo-@jdTL=w{o3Pxu2PY]_qB=w%GLU1S_Pk8HX>4C}W2YTc=V=(~QH[vcm2!]Opq& CB^,K:NO/lVI-m&kP;pa&K.Xo)X Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990124083949W.matchan@kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 08:39:49 +0900 (JST) X-Dispatcher: imput version 980815 Lines: 38 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello. I'm one of the maintainers of ftp4.jp.freebsd.org. I have a question. Why the directory, 2.2.8-RELEASE/package, is linked to ports/i386/packages-3-stable ? I personally upgraded the version of FreeBSD on my machine from 2.2.7-RELEASE to 2.2.8, and I tried to add some packages via /stand/sysinstall(the packages are ja-tcsh, wide-dhcpd). After adding the packages, I faced at the error, 'can't load ld-elf.so.1'(I've forgot the exact sentence, sorry). Then, I've checked on our mirroring disk. The following is the result: FreeBSD: releases/2.2.8-RELEASE/packages | | (is linked to) V FreeBSD-stable/packages | V ...(snip)... | V ports/i386/packages-3-stable Why 2.2.8-RELEASE/packages is linked to ports/i386/packages-3-stable, though a big directory, ports/i386/packages-2.2.8, does exist? After changing to use the programs in ports/i386/packages-2.2.8, they worked well. Hiroaki To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat Jan 23 15:54:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03842 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:54:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03837 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:54:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca9-34.ix.netcom.com [209.109.236.34]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA26891; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:53:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.1/8.6.9) id PAA29730; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:53:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:53:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901232353.PAA29730@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: freebsd-mirror@lavender.org CC: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, dg@root.com, matchan@kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp In-reply-to: <19990124083949W.matchan@kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp> ((Unparsable address -- Missing comma between addresses or badly-formatted address: "Hiroaki MATSUMOTO_^_@mail.freebsd.org \(=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCPj5LXBsoQiAbJEJCWUxAGyhC?=\) ")) Subject: Re: Why 2.2.8-RELEASE/packages -> ports/i386/packages-3-stable ? From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * I have a question. Why the directory, 2.2.8-RELEASE/package, * is linked to ports/i386/packages-3-stable ? Because someone (either jkh or I) screwed up. :) Jordan, I'd fix this except I don't have write permissions to any of the releases/*-RELEASE dirs anymore. Can you add group write bits, or fix all the \(.*\)-RELEASE/packages to point to ../../../ports/i386/packages-\1? Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat Jan 23 19:53:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA03017 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 19:53:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA03008; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 19:53:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason@piglet.dstc.edu.au) Received: (from jason@localhost) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA22103; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 13:52:49 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade Message-Id: <199901240352.NAA22103@piglet.dstc.edu.au> Subject: Re: new dist area ? To: arnej@math.ntnu.no (Arne H. Juul) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 13:52:49 +1000 (EST) Cc: jason@dstc.edu.au, freebsd-maintainers@FreeBSD.ORG, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990123023417.24464.qmail@huset.math.ntnu.no> from "Arne H. Juul" at Jan 23, 99 03:34:17 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > FreeBSD-current -> branches/-current personally i think it's a mistake to have a directory name like -current, but i'm not a maintainer.. > There are a couple of things I don't understand about the first of > these, though. According to the README it's supposed to contain > sources, and there's a supfile.cvsup which could be used to get the > same sources via cvsup. But there are some directories which doesn't > look like sources (and can I get them via cvsup at all?) > XF86332 - binaries? > XF86333 - binaries? > commerce - binaries? > xperimnt - packed sources? misc stuff? > > If these aren't part of a CVS branch, it's somewhat counter-intuitive > having them in branches/-current. At least the README file needs to > be updated to explain what they are and why they're here (like: these > are here for historical reasons :-) i'm getting a little frustated at changes with no warnings. am i not on a list somewhere where perhaps someone is sending out all the changes that are occuring ? the temptation is getting really strong to give up trying to be a complete mirror and simply mirror one release, one set of packages and make the rest someone elses problem. apart from just the general userbase (who complain to US that our site is incomplete and not up to date and aren't interested in explanations that ftp.freebsd.org just decided to move 1-2G around), our downstream mirrors don't tend to be terribly impressed when they are relying on us to be up to date and stable. can one of the archive maintainers please post an update on what has happened, what they plan to happen and include things like du usage of trees and planned further disk usage ? i'd also like to understand how packages are put into the ports tree. Are they all built from scratch and just populated into there (in which case i better give up trying to even bother mirroring packages, as i'd have to fetch 1G everytime it's rebuilt) ? i'm using a combination of `mirror' (fmirror doesn't compile yet on solaris 2.6.. looking into it. sigh) and CVSup and one or both would appear to be broken currently by structural changes. are hard links used extensively in the archive ? another case for either using rsyncd which allows your downstream mirrors to save on disk by mirroring hardlinks, or for running nicolai langfeldt's (sp?) md5 checksum hard linking space saver. -jason -- jason andrade dstc pty ltd jason@dstc.edu.au senior sysadmin level 7, GPS Building 78 i just wanna be phn +61-7-33654307 university of queensland bluemisty fax +61-7-33654311 queensland 4072 australia and barefooted To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat Jan 23 20:20:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA06483 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:20:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA06477 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:20:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA06342; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:20:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA16582; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:20:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:20:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901240420.UAA16582@vashon.polstra.com> To: jason@dstc.edu.au Subject: Re: new dist area ? Newsgroups: polstra.freebsd.hubs In-Reply-To: <199901240352.NAA22103@piglet.dstc.edu.au> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <199901240352.NAA22103@piglet.dstc.edu.au>, jason andrade wrote: > > > FreeBSD-current -> branches/-current > > personally i think it's a mistake to have a directory name like > -current, but i'm not a maintainer.. I'd have to agree with you about that. > i'm getting a little frustated at changes with no warnings. am i not > on a list somewhere where perhaps someone is sending out all the > changes that are occuring ? It was announced on the FreeBSD-hubs list. Didn't you see it? > i'm using a combination of `mirror' (fmirror doesn't compile yet on > solaris 2.6.. looking into it. sigh) and CVSup and one or both would > appear to be broken currently by structural changes. > > are hard links used extensively in the archive ? another case for > either using rsyncd which allows your downstream mirrors to save > on disk by mirroring hardlinks, or for running nicolai langfeldt's > (sp?) md5 checksum hard linking space saver. CVSup preserves hard links. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." -- H. L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message