From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 15 1:43:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alice.gba.oz.au (gba-254.tmx.com.au [203.9.155.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D041314CF0 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 01:43:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjb-freebsd@gba.oz.au) Received: (qmail 24845 invoked by uid 1001); 15 Aug 1999 18:14:34 +1000 Message-ID: <19990815081434.24844.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> X-Posted-By: GBA-Post 1.03 20-Sep-1998 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5A91 6942 8CEA 9DAB B95B C249 1CE1 493B 2B5A CE30 Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 18:14:33 +1000 From: Greg Black To: Mike Meyer Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Random disk read problems References: In-reply-to: of Sat, 14 Aug 1999 23:32:01 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Meyer writes: > Bad memory seems like the best bet. The BIOS on the motherboard (a > SuperMicro S2DGU) has settings for memory checking that are disabled > (it came from the vendor that way, with FreeBSD 2.2.8 installed). Is > there any point in turning this on? Anything I can do besides buying > another DIMM to plug in to test it? It's certainly worth turning on the memory checking. If it fails, then you can be certain the memory is no good. And if it passes, you can't trust the result :-) I built a new box out of bits last week and got all sorts of random failures, with various programs crashing in odd ways. In each case, md5 checksums of the faulty program and the original on the CD differed. I bet on bad memory, turned on the memory checks and fortunately it failed, so my vendor agreed to swap the memory, although when he saw FreeBSD starting up after he swapped the chip he wanted to blame the OS for the problem :-( -- Greg Black -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 15 1:43:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alice.gba.oz.au (gba-254.tmx.com.au [203.9.155.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 787B5152DC for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 01:43:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjb-freebsd@gba.oz.au) Received: (qmail 25059 invoked by uid 1001); 15 Aug 1999 18:40:44 +1000 Message-ID: <19990815084044.25058.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> X-Posted-By: GBA-Post 1.03 20-Sep-1998 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5A91 6942 8CEA 9DAB B95B C249 1CE1 493B 2B5A CE30 Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 18:40:43 +1000 From: Greg Black To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: Mike Meyer , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Random disk read problems References: <199908142104.OAA75747@cwsys.cwsent.com> In-reply-to: <199908142104.OAA75747@cwsys.cwsent.com> of Sat, 14 Aug 1999 14:04:04 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group writes: > I've been told that 1542's do not work well with multi-user/multi-taskin > g O/S's. This is bad information. I have 1542's that have run for years in really crappy boxes without ever giving a hint of trouble. I have one now in an antique 486 that's driving a disk, a tape and a cd just fine, and it has been in various machines in different cities under various multi-tasking/multi-user Unix OS's (though not FreeBSD). They may be old and slow in today's world, but they work just fine. -- Greg Black -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 15 1:44:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alice.gba.oz.au (gba-254.tmx.com.au [203.9.155.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD9CF152F5 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 01:43:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjb-freebsd@gba.oz.au) Received: (qmail 24905 invoked by uid 1001); 15 Aug 1999 18:16:45 +1000 Message-ID: <19990815081645.24904.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> X-Posted-By: GBA-Post 1.03 20-Sep-1998 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5A91 6942 8CEA 9DAB B95B C249 1CE1 493B 2B5A CE30 Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 18:16:45 +1000 From: Greg Black To: Mike Meyer Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Random disk read problems References: In-reply-to: of Sat, 14 Aug 1999 22:04:17 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Could a power outage have caused the chips to fail? Nasty stuff with power can make just about anything on a PC fail, including memory. -- Greg Black -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 15 3:32: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7632C15344 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 03:31:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id MAA06194; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 12:27:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA58960; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 19:50:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199908141750.TAA58960@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: On freezes in 3.2-Stable (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199908141707.KAA05443@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at "Aug 14, 1999 10: 7:45 am" To: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 19:50:17 +0200 (CEST) Cc: mike@smith.net.au, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Rodney W. Grimes wrote ... > > As Rodney W. Grimes wrote ... > > > > > > Er. The Intel AD450NX has 32 DIMM sockets. Unless someone starts > > > > making 2-chip DIMMs, I don't see how you would run 8GB in this box (and ... > > > supper honking driver that can drive 288 chips in the memory controller, > > > but then all the RAM chips would have to have larger data drivers to > > > handle that side of the bus. > > > > You could use buffered DIMMs I guess. Not really PC standard stuff though. > > If the memory controller was designed to deal with them, or > you use faster DRAM's themselves to compensate for the additional > delay that buffered DIMMS add. 6nS DRAM'S price difference would > probably be more than going from a clone MB to one like the AD450NX > that is designed for large memory modules. You obviously need to adapt the rest of your memory logic. The buffered memory module approach is what is often used in the higher-end server machines. Like what I see in the big Alpha boxes etc. > Also buffered DIMMS usually take care of the address line loading issue, > you may still have a problem with the databus drivers in the DRAM chips > being able to drive data back to the CPU. Buffering both the data and > address lines would push you close to needing 5nS chips. (The address > lines see one package pin of loading for each chip in the whole memory > array, datalines see one, two or four package pin of loading for each > DIMM in the array, dependent on single or double row, normal or low > density dimms.) Memory design is an art form. I know. I've seen memory boards being designed while I was in hardware design, but never got around to do it myself though. Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 15 6:55:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from unix01.voicenet.com (unix01.voicenet.com [209.71.48.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C07431568B for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 06:55:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpapalia@voicenet.com) Received: (qmail 21277 invoked by uid 4485); 15 Aug 1999 13:54:01 -0000 Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 09:54:01 -0400 (EDT) From: John X-Sender: jpapalia@unix01 To: David O'Brien Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP's, NIC's, and masquerading in 3.2-Stable In-Reply-To: <19990814234444.A16577@nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > how does one correctly configure having two ethernet cards > > within the same box? > You should post your /var/run/dmesg.boot file. Otherwise we have no idea > the cards are even being probed correctly. Here is step one - the output of /var/run/dmesg.boot. Not sure if I mentioned it or not, but both cards are the Intel EtherExpress ProB 10/100 (someone suggested trying a different brand card - unfortunately I can't afford the $$$ to do that just yet) /var/run/dmesg.boot: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #5: Sat Aug 14 22:59:36 EDT 1999 root@merlin.avalon.com:/home/src/sys/compile/MERLIN Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 167046387 Hz CPU: Pentium/P54C (167.05-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping = 12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 41943040 (40960K bytes) avail memory = 38199296 (37304K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc029a000. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x02 on pci0.7.0 ahc0: rev 0x01 int a irq 11 on pci0.17.0 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs vga0: rev 0x08 on pci0.18.0 fxp0: rev 0x02 int a irq 9 on pci0.19.0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:6c:a9:23 fxp1: rev 0x02 int a irq 5 on pci0.20.0 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:6c:a8:bd Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <10 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 irq 12 on isa psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 flags 0x1 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug Waiting 10 seconds for SCSI devices to settle changing root device to da0s1a da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4094MB (8386000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C) cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present > Then you want to post the output of: > > grep fxp /etc/rc.conf This output is as follows: network_interfaces="fxp0 fxp1 ppp0 lo0 tun0" ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_fxp1="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" At this point, I need to get the campus IT guru's to confirm that my ethernet connection is here up and running right. I did the above config within rc.conf with the thought in mind that if they both had the same ip addy, then my windows box would talk no matter which one I hooked into. But alas, no. What I find odd is that if I boot from a 2nd kernel in which fxp1 is not defined, then my boxes can talk to each other no problem - regardless of which card in the FBsd box I plug into. This is turning out to be one heck of a learning experience =) Thanks again!!!! --John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 15 9:26:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4114152DC; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 09:26:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02972; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 09:27:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199908151627.JAA02972@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: IP's, NIC's, and masquerading in 3.2-Stable In-Reply-To: from John at "Aug 15, 99 09:54:01 am" To: jpapalia@voicenet.com (John) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 09:27:06 -0700 (MST) Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, John wrote: > This output is as follows: > > network_interfaces="fxp0 fxp1 ppp0 lo0 tun0" > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_fxp1="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" There's your problem. With the same IP address configured on each interface, how do you think the routing table in your machine should look? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 15 10:49:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [209.157.82.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF5A414F92 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 10:49:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 5632 invoked by uid 100); 15 Aug 1999 17:50:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Aug 1999 17:50:04 -0000 Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 10:50:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Meyer To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Random disk read problems In-Reply-To: <19990815081434.24844.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 15 Aug 1999, Greg Black wrote: :->It's certainly worth turning on the memory checking. If it :->fails, then you can be certain the memory is no good. And if it :->passes, you can't trust the result :-) Well, what happens when the board fails? Do I get log messages? Something else? :->I built a new box out of bits last week and got all sorts of :->random failures, with various programs crashing in odd ways. In :->each case, md5 checksums of the faulty program and the original :->on the CD differed. I bet on bad memory, turned on the memory :->checks and fortunately it failed, so my vendor agreed to swap :->the memory, although when he saw FreeBSD starting up after he :->swapped the chip he wanted to blame the OS for the problem :-( I suspect the warranty won't cover this - assuming that it's still valid. I was hoping to buy a second CPU, not memory :-(. I wonder if insurance will cover this. ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 11:05:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rootk@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (iras-2-44.ucdavis.edu [169.237.16.172]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18664; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 11:05:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rootk@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA00998; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 11:05:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rootk) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 11:05:30 -0700 From: Charlie & To: John Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP's, NIC's, and masquerading in 3.2-Stable Message-ID: <19990815110530.C843@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <19990814234444.A16577@nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from John on Sun, Aug 15, 1999 at 09:54:01AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > both cards are the Intel EtherExpress ProB 10/100 (someone suggested > trying a different brand card - unfortunately I can't afford the $$$ to > do that just yet) Ignore the uninformed person that said that. You already have the best Ethernet card FreeBSD supports. My lab has a few machines with three of them working just fine. > network_interfaces="fxp0 fxp1 ppp0 lo0 tun0" ^^^^ Why? Since you have "tun0", I assume you are using /usr/sbin/ppp rather than /usr/sbin/pppd? But with two Ethernet cards, it seems you don't want PPP at all. Anyway, ``pppd'' really isn't what you should be using unless you are in a rare position that ``ppp'' won't do something for you. > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_fxp1="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" As someone pointed out, this seems wrong. Just what is it you are wanting to achieve? Since you mention a college campus, are you sure you aren't wanting to configure at least one of the NIC's via DHCP? > What I find odd is that if I boot from a 2nd kernel in which fxp1 is With PCI devices (which the Intel EtherExpress Pro is one), you only need *one* mention of the device in your kernel config. ``fxp0'' is all you need -- no matter how many of them you have. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 15 12: 4:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tinker.exit.com (exit-gw.power.net [207.151.46.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0B314E46 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 12:04:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: from realtime.exit.com (realtime [206.223.0.5]) by tinker.exit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04583 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 12:04:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: (from frank@localhost) by realtime.exit.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA53227 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 12:04:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank) From: Frank Mayhar Message-Id: <199908151904.MAA53227@realtime.exit.com> Subject: Finally finished upgrading to 3.2-stable. To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 11:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: frank@exit.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, it certainly wasn't as easy as everyone claims. Fortunately, I had a system that's already 3.2 on my network, so this made things much easier. And for "easier" read "possible." My setup was a 3.1-RELEASE /usr/src NFS-mounted from the 3.2 machine onto the 2.2.8 machine. The /usr/obj was local. The gotchas I ran into: lib/libmytinfo tries to run a few generated executables to generate source files. When doing this in the elf build while still running an aout-only kernel, this crashes and burns. I got around this by building libmytinfo on the 3.2 machine while the 2.2.8 machine was still in the middle of the libc build. I then deleted all the object files in the directory, but left the generated source files. When the build got there, it had no reason to run the generated executables, and continued fine. The kernel build _also_ generates an executable, aicasm, to generate source files during the "make depend" phase, which crashes when run. In addition, the link phases crashes and burns with dozens of undefined symbols, for no apparent reason. I got around _this_ by stopping the build on the 2.2.8 machine just after it creates the compile directory but before it starts the "make depend" and building the entire kernel on the 3.2 machine, then going to the 2.2.8 machine and doing a "make -DFORCE install". Check in tools/tools/upgrade/doupgrade.sh for what the upgrade process expects at this point. I then reran "make upgrade" and it ran to completion. There are actually several points at which you can stop the upgrade, then restart it and it will continue from the last checkpointed spot. Among these are after the aout build is finished and after the kernel is installed. I do highly recommend having an already-installed 3.1 or better machine nearby, as it makes things much easier. I was still up to 3:00 this morning, though. After I finished the upgrade, I did a "make installworld" from the 3.2 machine's /usr/src / /usr/obj, to get the former 2.2.8 system up to 3.2-stable. This had no problems. And may the gods bless the guy who wrote mergemaster. It didn't do _everything_ (I still had to regenerate sendmail.cf and the named files, and the former _still_ needs a little work), but it makes life _much_ easier than it would otherwise be. Now all three of my machines here are at 3.2-stable, so I only have to maintain one /usr/src and one /usr/obj. Much, much more maintainable. -- Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 15 15:18:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns02.arpa-canada.net (dns02.arpa-canada.net [209.104.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB04A14CF3 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 15:18:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@MLINK.NET) Received: (qmail 32305 invoked by uid 1000); 15 Aug 1999 22:18:36 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Aug 1999 22:18:36 -0000 Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 18:18:36 -0400 (EDT) From: matt X-Sender: matt@dns02.arpa-canada.net To: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Possible quota bug? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I've ran across a strange problem twice now, at first I thought it was a problem with the mid July cvsup of 3.2-stable, so I moved to Augest 06 -stable, and still encounter this problem. It is reproducable, however only on that machine, therefore I'm unsure as to if this is a FreeBSD bug. The problem is as follows, approximately 2 minutes after setting up user quotas, the terminal froze, as did the other terminals logged in, any connections thereafter just do nothing but hang, however daemons and processes already running on the machine appear to function. I tested this on my other 3.2-stable machine, that has identical hardware to the problematic one, save the difference of a western digital HD, and a quantum HD, both are of the Augest 6th -stable release. This machine does not expierence any problems and all works happily. In that, I'm lead to believe this is not a FreeBSD problem, however I'd like some opinions on the possibility of this being related to perhaps bad memory, or a bad hard drive? For reference, the machine is a 400Mhz celeron with 256Mb of ram, 13Gb quantum fireball IDE. This problem is the only one I have had on this machine though. Suggestions would be appreciated. (note; no errors are left in any logfiles or even the console.) Thanks, Matt -- matt@MLINK.NET To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 15 20:51:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from public.bta.net.cn (public.bta.net.cn [202.96.0.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72CB614E64 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 20:51:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: from sidewinder.netrinsics.com (TCE-E-7-178-187.bta.net.cn [202.106.178.187]) by public.bta.net.cn (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA04477 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:49:13 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <37B789CE.794BDF32@netrinsics.com> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:47:26 +0800 From: Michael Robinson X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: PPP over OpenSSL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there any reason not to plug OpenSSL support into userland ppp for use as a high-security VPN? Has anyone already looked at doing this? Is there a better (open and free) solution available off-the-shelf? -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 15 20:58:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B989C14EBE for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 20:58:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from gravel (ospf-mdt.sentex.net [205.211.164.81]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA00927; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 23:59:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990816001122.058b3320@granite.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtancsa@granite.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 00:12:02 -0400 To: Michael Robinson , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: PPP over OpenSSL In-Reply-To: <37B789CE.794BDF32@netrinsics.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:47 PM 8/15/99 , Michael Robinson wrote: >Is there any reason not to plug OpenSSL support into userland >ppp for use as a high-security VPN? > >Has anyone already looked at doing this? > >Is there a better (open and free) solution available off-the-shelf? Dont know about better, but there is SKIP and PPP through SSH. ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike Cambridge, Ontario * 01.519.651.3400 Canada * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 15 22:51:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5946314F3F for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 22:51:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id OAA17979; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:51:48 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <37B7A6BE.F5282784@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:50:54 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tcobb@staff.circle.net Cc: adepoo@tamnet.com.mx, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: On freezes in 3.2-Stable References: <307D63ED6749CF11AAE9005004461A5B405A@FREYA> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG tcobb@staff.circle.net wrote: > > >Can it be the memory itself? > > > >We have a test box with 3.2, when we added some memory the machine start > >to act weird, just as the original post, freeze, no keyboard input, even > >sometimes the machine reboots. > > > >We take out the added memory, and then everything is going well. > > I thought that might be the situation. So I removed the memory > and put it into another box which worked fine w/ just that one > DIMM. I'm guessing now that the memory was fine, but support > for 1GB was the problem. > > I'd loved to find myself wrong in this, by the way. :) Last time I heard of a similar problem, I gave 4 to 1 odds it was memory. Turned out that for above 512 Mb the motherboard required ECC memory. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "You intend to eat me, then?" he asked the dragon. "Well, I must admit, more for the amusement than the taste." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 15 23: 9:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from public.bta.net.cn (public.bta.net.cn [202.96.0.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B493153C3 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 23:09:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: from netrinsics.com (TCE-E-7-178-201.bta.net.cn [202.106.178.201]) by public.bta.net.cn (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA09181 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:05:55 +0800 (CST) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id OAA01665 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:05:23 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:05:23 +0800 (CST) From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <199908160605.OAA01665@netrinsics.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPP over OpenSSL Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Tancsa writes: >>Is there any reason not to plug OpenSSL support into userland >>ppp for use as a high-security VPN? >> >>Has anyone already looked at doing this? >> >>Is there a better (open and free) solution available off-the-shelf? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Dont know about better, but there is SKIP and PPP through SSH. ^^^ Actually, it was precisely the licensing terms of SSH that got me thinking down this path. -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 15 23:24:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front5.grolier.fr (front5.grolier.fr [194.158.96.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC0F14D5B; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 23:24:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pushf@club-internet.fr) Received: from club-internet.fr (Chateauroux-2-50.club-internet.fr [195.36.140.50]) by front5.grolier.fr (8.9.3/No_Relay+No_Spam_MGC990224) with ESMTP id IAA17242; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 08:25:06 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <37B7AEC1.44EEAE39@club-internet.fr> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 08:25:05 +0200 From: Pierre-Francois LAURAND X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: "make buildworld" failure with -stable under 3.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I am running FreeBSD-3.1 and I've just ended to download FreeBSD-stable ( 3.0-stable ), and, while I'am trying to make it with "make buildworld", the file /usr/src/bin/ls/stat_flags.c seems to provoke the following mistake : ... cc -O2 -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:50: parse error before `if' /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:50: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:51: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:52: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:53: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:53: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:53: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:54: parse er: parse error before `}' /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c: In function `flags_to_string': /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:72: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:74: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:77: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:80: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:82: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:84: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:86: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:88: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:91: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:97: `a' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:97: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/usr.binr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:97: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:97: `b' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:97: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:98: `clear' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:98: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:99: `clrp' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:99: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:100: `f' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:100: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:101: `setp' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:101: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:102flags.c:102: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:103: break statement not within loop or switch /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:103: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:104: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:113: parse error before `int' /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:126: `stringp' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:137: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:138: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:139: warning: return makes pointer from integer without a cast /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:142: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:143: warning: return makes pointer from integer without a cast /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:145: stray '\' in program /usr/sgram /usr/ssrc/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:146: warning: return makes pointer from integer without a cast /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:148: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:149: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:150: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:151: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:152: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:154: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:155: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:157: warning: return makes pointer from integer without a cast /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:159: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:160: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:161: stray '\' in program /usr/srcam /usr/srcc/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:162: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:163: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:165: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:166: stray '\' in program /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:170: warning: return makes pointer from integer without a cast /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:175: parse error at end of input *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. (radm@horus:/usr/src)# I'm not sure that the mistake comes from stat_flags.c because stat_flags.c from -stable is the same as stat_flags.c from release 3.1, and a "make buildworld" with the source of the 3.1 runs well. I think that the mistake comes from me, but I don't see where the problem is. I've just downloaded the sources, installed them under /usr/src; and run a "make buildworld". Thanks for your help ! -- Pierre-François LAURAND pushf@club-internet.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 16 5: 9: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cits-darla.robins.af.mil (cits-darla.robins.af.mil [137.244.215.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753A214DEB for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 05:08:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andrew.Lofthouse@robins.af.mil) Received: from cits-darla.robins.af.mil (root@localhost) by cits-darla.robins.af.mil with ESMTP id IAA10699; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 08:08:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fsuhhz30.robins.af.mil (fsuhhz30.robins.af.mil [137.244.190.201]) by cits-darla.robins.af.mil with ESMTP id IAA10695; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 08:08:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by fsuhhz30.robins.af.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:07:53 -0000 Message-ID: <3F69A3D5863ED211B31F0000F809353502D1E0FF@FSUHHZ33> From: Lofthouse Andrew 2Lt WRALC/TIECT To: Doug , Frank Mayhar , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: John Polstra Subject: RE: Problem reporting build failure (rebuilding bootstrap, crtbeg in.c:33) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:08:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Frank Mayhar wrote: > "Make upgrade" doesn't exist in 3.0-release. There's just world, aout-to-elf, > aout-to-elf-build, aout-to-elf-install and move-aout-libs. I think I sent you this already, but if I didn't take a look at http://home.san.rr.com/freebsd/make-upgrade.html. Just for the record, the procedures listed on the above website work. I followed them this weekend and successfully updated my 2.2.8-RELEASE to 3.2-STABLE. It takes a bit of time (three make world builds, basically), but it works. HOWEVER, I'm still asking for some help. It seems that even with the upgrade to 3.2-STABLE, I'm still running into the same problem I had when I tried installing the 3.2-RELEASE (I thought the problem would be fixed in -STABLE). The problem is that the hardware probe does not detect my primary IDE controller, wdc0 (most of the time). I did find a workaround, which entails going into my BIOS setup, setting the "auto-detect" option on the harddrive settings and saving the new settings. Note that this works only one time. Each time I reboot, I have to go back into my BIOS setup and save the settings (even without changing anything). This is a little annoying to do each time I boot up. Now, I realize that IDE drives may not be the first choice for this type of OS (it seems, looking at the e-mail traffic, that SCSI is the way to go), but that's all I've got. As I mentioned, I thought the problem was resolved in -STABLE, but I guess not. I'll submit a bug report. But in the meantime, I'd appreciate any ideas on why the new bootstrap would not detect my primary IDE controller, while 2.2.8 worked just fine. FYI I've got a Pentium MMX cpu with Intel 430TX chipset, Award BIOS version 4.51 PGM, PnP BIOS 1.0A on an AOpen AP5TC RC1.10 motherboard. Both harddrives are on my primary controller (1.27 GB Samsung as master, 6.54 GB Seagate as slave) and my ATAPI CD-ROM drive is master on the secondary controller. By the way, the probe always detects my secondary controller (wdc1) just fine. I'd prefer not to mess with the physical configuration of the machine (i.e. move drives to different controllers, etc). I've got 4 OSs on the machine and I rather not mess up their drive configurations. And I do appreciate the tips I've received so far. Andrew J. Lofthouse To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 16 5:21:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [205.198.88.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 092FF14F83 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 05:21:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjohnson@palomine.net) Received: (qmail 9853 invoked by uid 1000); 16 Aug 1999 12:21:12 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 08:21:12 -0400 From: Chris Johnson To: Michael Robinson Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPP over OpenSSL Message-ID: <19990816082112.A9773@palomine.net> References: <37B789CE.794BDF32@netrinsics.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <37B789CE.794BDF32@netrinsics.com>; from Michael Robinson on Mon, Aug 16, 1999 at 11:47:26AM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Aug 16, 1999 at 11:47:26AM +0800, Michael Robinson wrote: > Is there any reason not to plug OpenSSL support into userland > ppp for use as a high-security VPN? > > Has anyone already looked at doing this? > > Is there a better (open and free) solution available off-the-shelf? > Try http://www.enst.fr/~beyssac/tunip.tar.gz. It lets you create a VPN using tun devices and OpenSSL. Despite the author's warnings, it works beautifully, and is reasonably simple to set up. I've had an absolutely problem-free VPN up for about a month using this. Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 16 5:30:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xl2.cscd.lviv.ua (xl2.cscd.lviv.ua [195.5.56.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6164514FFC for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 05:30:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vadim@gc.lviv.ua) Received: from extra.gc.lviv.ua (extra.gc.lviv.ua [195.5.56.19]) by xl2.cscd.lviv.ua (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA12628 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:40:46 +0300 (EEST) Received: from gate.gc.lviv.ua (gate.gc.lviv.ua [192.168.168.18]) by extra.gc.lviv.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA64587 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:29:12 +0300 (EEST) Received: from gc.lviv.ua (intra.lviv.gc.com.ua [192.168.1.93]) by gate.gc.lviv.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17705 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:29:12 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <37B802D1.76DA6E72@gc.lviv.ua> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:23:45 +0300 From: Vadim Chekan Organization: Galitsky Kontrakty X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP over OpenSSL References: <37B789CE.794BDF32@netrinsics.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael Robinson wrote: > > Is there any reason not to plug OpenSSL support into userland > ppp for use as a high-security VPN? > > Has anyone already looked at doing this? > > Is there a better (open and free) solution available off-the-shelf? What about IPSec for IP4 in KAME? Did anyone try this? Vadim Chekan. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 16 6:24:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jason.argos.org (a1-3a123.neo.rr.com [24.93.180.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28115150D9 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 06:24:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@argos.org) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by jason.argos.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA15008; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 14:57:29 -0400 Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 14:56:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Nowlin To: Warner Losh Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , Mike Meyer , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Random disk read problems In-Reply-To: <199908150436.WAA22431@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In message <199908142104.OAA75747@cwsys.cwsent.com> Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group writes: > : I've been told that 1542's do not work well with multi-user/multi-taskin > : g O/S's. I'm not sure what SCSI controller you're using. Could it be > : that your controller is corrupting data when it is "very" busy? > > That's crap. Pure crap. The 1522's maybe, but not the 1542. They > have a good DMA architecture. There may be a bug in the 1542 driver > for FreeBSD, but it isn't the fault of the cards. > > And if there is a bug, I'd like to know how to recreate it so I can > fix it... > Here's a bit of possibly useful info... Quite a while ago, I had 1540B's and 1540C's installed on 486 66 & 100 boxes, with motherboards from different manufacturers... Under moderate load (such as copying several large files between different drives at the same time), the whole system would simply freeze -- a minute or so later, the kernel would start dumping out SCSI timeout error messages, and a reboot would be required... On every one of the machines that had this problem, pulling out the 486 board and dropping in a Pentium fixed it... Most of these machines started out as 386's, which never showed the problem until we upgraded to 486 boards. An interesting side note is that this behavior was exactly the same running under both FreeBSD and Linux.... hmmmm.... --Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 16 7:45: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from public.bta.net.cn (public.bta.net.cn [202.96.0.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0159157B1 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 07:45:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: from netrinsics.com ([202.106.173.112]) by public.bta.net.cn (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA21495 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 22:41:35 +0800 (CST) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id WAA02571 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 22:40:49 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 22:40:49 +0800 (CST) From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <199908161440.WAA02571@netrinsics.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPP over OpenSSL In-Reply-To: <19990816082112.A9773@palomine.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chris Johnson writes: >Try http://www.enst.fr/~beyssac/tunip.tar.gz. It lets you create a VPN using >tun devices and OpenSSL. Despite the author's warnings, it works beautifully, >and is reasonably simple to set up. I've had an absolutely problem-free VPN up >for about a month using this. Oooo, that's slick. Short, sweet, and a BSD-style license, to boot. Maybe "the powers that be" could look at making this part of the standard distribution (ala tcpwrapper). In any case, it's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks. -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 16 8:17:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9603B14E60 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 08:17:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA06187; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 08:18:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA99183; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 08:18:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3F69A3D5863ED211B31F0000F809353502D1E0FF@FSUHHZ33> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 08:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: Lofthouse Andrew 2Lt WRALC/TIECT Subject: RE: Problem reporting build failure (rebuilding bootstrap, crtbe Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lofthouse Andrew 2Lt WRALC/TIECT wrote: > Just for the record, the procedures listed on the above website > work. I followed them this weekend and successfully updated my > 2.2.8-RELEASE to 3.2-STABLE. It takes a bit of time (three make > world builds, basically), but it works. > > HOWEVER, I'm still asking for some help. It seems that even with the > upgrade to 3.2-STABLE, I'm still running into the same problem I had > when I tried installing the 3.2-RELEASE (I thought the problem would > be fixed in -STABLE). The problem is that the hardware probe does > not detect my primary [...] Different topic entirely. Please trim the cc list back to just the mailing list again. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up." -- Nora Ephron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 16 8:20:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop2.tky.3web.ne.jp (pop2.tky.3web.ne.jp [202.235.209.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F5B15444 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 08:20:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from moris@tky2.3web.ne.jp) Received: from mx2.tky.3web.ne.jp (tky017.tky.3web.ne.jp [202.235.210.49]) by pop2.tky.3web.ne.jp (8.8.8+2.7Wbeta7/3.7W-99073118) with SMTP id AAA29118 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:19:08 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:19:08 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199908161519.AAA29118@pop2.tky.3web.ne.jp> From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?WXVrbyBLYXNoaXdhemFraQ==?= To: =?iso-2022-jp?B?ZnJlZWJzZC1zdGFibGVAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc=?= Subject: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCPWkkYSReJDckRiEiR3A6aiRIPz0kNyReJDkhIxsoQg==?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset= "ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG $B=i$a$^$7$F!"%$%*%s%IBg3X$NGp:j!!M5;R$H?=$7$^$9!#(B $B%$%*%s%IBg3X!!L>M@Gn;N!!?dA&0Q0w2q@_N)$N$*CN$i$;$,$"$j(B $B$^$7$F!"%a!<%k$rCW$7$^$7$?!#(B $B$3$NEY!"(BIOND University$B!J%O%o%$=#G'2D!"(BWAUC$B2CLA!K$G$O!"(B $BF|K\$N3F3&$K$*$$$FB?Bg$J$kM@Gn;N9f$rM@Gn;N?dA&0Q0wBP>](B $B!!!!!!#2(B. $BG/NpITLd!"3XNrITLd(B $B!!!!!!#3(B. $B?H853NM@Gn;N$r?dA&$7!"K\3X$N3X0L!K$K$h$j@5<07hDj$7$^$9!#L>M@Gn;N9f]e$K$7$F!"3F3&$K$*$$$F==J,$J8y@S$r;D$5$l6H(B $B!!!!!!!!!!3&$H0JFb!#(B $B!!!!!!#2(B. $B3XLdE*!"$"$k$$$OJ88%E*$K==J,$JA&$rLd$$$^$;$s$N$G!"1sN8$J$/$4O"Mm2<$5$$!#(B $BO"MmJ}K!$O%a!<%k$K$F$h$m$7$/$*4j$$CW$7$^$9!#(B ********************************************* Yuko Kashiwazaki E-Mail:moris@tky2.3web.ne.jp Faculty Recruiting Department of IOND University URL:http://member.nifty.ne.jp/Iond_Univ/ ********************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 16 9:40: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [209.157.82.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 67BAD14BFF for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:40:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 9126 invoked by uid 100); 16 Aug 1999 16:40:33 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 16:40:33 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:40:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Meyer To: Michael Robinson Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPP over OpenSSL In-Reply-To: <199908161440.WAA02571@netrinsics.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, Michael Robinson wrote: :->Chris Johnson writes: :->>Try http://www.enst.fr/~beyssac/tunip.tar.gz. It lets you create a VPN using :->>tun devices and OpenSSL. Despite the author's warnings, it works beautifully, :->>and is reasonably simple to set up. I've had an absolutely problem-free VPN up :->>for about a month using this. :->Oooo, that's slick. Short, sweet, and a BSD-style license, to boot. Maybe :->"the powers that be" could look at making this part of the standard :->distribution (ala tcpwrapper). :->In any case, it's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks. Well, if you've got it installed and working, you could build a port for it submit that as a pr. That will make it available nearly as easily as being part of the distribution. Not having looked inside it (having no interest in that functionaly), I can't say for sure, but that may be the right way to make this available. ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:03:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: from netrinsics.com ([202.106.173.44]) by public.bta.net.cn (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA27710 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:02:14 +0800 (CST) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id CAA03222; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:01:35 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:01:35 +0800 (CST) From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <199908161801.CAA03222@netrinsics.com> To: mwm@phone.net Subject: Re: PPP over OpenSSL Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Meyer writes: >>>Try http://www.enst.fr/~beyssac/tunip.tar.gz. It lets you create a VPN using >>Oooo, that's slick. Short, sweet, and a BSD-style license, to boot. Maybe >>"the powers that be" could look at making this part of the standard >>distribution (ala tcpwrapper). >>In any case, it's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks. > >Well, if you've got it installed and working, you could build a port >for it submit that as a pr. No port is necessary; *BSD is the target operating system (along with Linux). It's one .c file, one .h file, and one config file. The only non-trivial part is that you need OpenSSL installed (there's already a port for that). -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 16 11: 9:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [209.157.82.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C2161556E for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:09:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 9827 invoked by uid 100); 16 Aug 1999 18:10:06 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 18:10:06 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:10:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Meyer To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPP over OpenSSL In-Reply-To: <199908161801.CAA03222@netrinsics.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Michael Robinson wrote: :->>Well, if you've got it installed and working, you could build a port :->>for it submit that as a pr. :->No port is necessary; *BSD is the target operating system (along with Linux). No, that just means the port is trivial, not unnecessary. Adding it as a port means that it's got a record in the list of avaiable applications, and that a package for it should wind up on the CD-ROM distribution. These are Good Things(TM), and to be encouraged. ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:15:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AD5A81C19; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:17:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A004F3826; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:17:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:17:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Michael Robinson Cc: mwm@phone.net, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPP over OpenSSL In-Reply-To: <199908161801.CAA03222@netrinsics.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Michael Robinson wrote: > No port is necessary; *BSD is the target operating system (along with Linux). > > It's one .c file, one .h file, and one config file. The only non-trivial > part is that you need OpenSSL installed (there's already a port for that). Think of a port as just a nice way to package it up too. Most ports in the ports tree compile out of the box. -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 16 11:41:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wopr.caltech.edu (wopr.caltech.edu [131.215.240.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 434CE14BCE for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:41:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mph@wopr.caltech.edu) Received: (from mph@localhost) by wopr.caltech.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA22008; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:40:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mph) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:40:19 -0700 From: Matthew Hunt To: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP over OpenSSL Message-ID: <19990816114019.A21905@wopr.caltech.edu> References: <199908161801.CAA03222@netrinsics.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Mike Meyer on Mon, Aug 16, 1999 at 11:10:06AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Aug 16, 1999 at 11:10:06AM -0700, Mike Meyer wrote: > No, that just means the port is trivial, not unnecessary. Adding it as > a port means that it's got a record in the list of avaiable > applications, and that a package for it should wind up on the CD-ROM > distribution. These are Good Things(TM), and to be encouraged. And also that a list of the installed files is recorded in /var/db/pkg, making it possible to remove the software using pkg_delete, instead of doing it by hand and perhaps forgetting some bits. And also that if the maintainer is conscientious about keeping the port synchronized with the software, users can find out about updates by watching for the "New/Updated Ports" announcement. Matt, who would want true(1) in Ports if it weren't in the base system. -- Matthew Hunt * Science rules. http://www.pobox.com/~mph/ * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 16 11:48:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server.mindstep.com (cr480472-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.33.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CC4D14BCE for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:48:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patrick@mindstep.com) Received: (qmail 47536 invoked from network); 16 Aug 1999 18:48:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.blackline.on.ca) (192.168.10.99) by local.mindstep.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 18:48:50 -0000 Message-ID: <00bb01bee818$c7097ee0$630aa8c0@laptop.blackline.on.ca> From: "Patrick Bihan-Faou (MindStep)" To: "Matthew Hunt" , "Mike Meyer" Cc: Subject: Re: PPP over OpenSSL Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:54:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have completed a port for the pipsecd stuff from Pierre Beyssac. I am submitting it right as we speak, so I hope this will close the debate... Yes I agree ports are nice (even if building pipsecd is easy (not trivial)). Patrick. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 16 15:20:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.pii.com (mailhost.pii.com [192.77.209.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1BD14F03; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:19:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ed.Baxter@pii.com) Received: from serv1.pii.com (serv1.pii.com [198.46.2.1]) by mailhost.pii.com (8.9.1/8.9.1/Praegitzer-antispam) with SMTP id PAA02315; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:19:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from redhat by serv1.pii.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA16645; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:19:17 -0700 From: Ed Baxter To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: how to stop route redirects Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:15:28 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <9908161526560P.13614@redhat> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How can I force freebsd 2.2.5 stable to ignore route redirects? Routed is turned off and I tried specifying these routes as static routes but one of our routers sends redirects when there is a WAN hiccup and internal traffic gets routed out to the internet (default for the router). The static routes also get over ridden by the redirects. The redirect would be fine except that when the WAN is back up the freebsd machine never changes back. The Corp WAN guy has turned RIP off for the entire WAN so I think my only option is to get the Freebsd machine to ignore the redirects. I noticed that even without routed my route table contains "learned" routes and keeps growing. Is it possible to turn this behavior off (would probably solve my redirect problem). We have Sun Solaris machines that without routed contain only a couple routes in their route table and it never changes. I would prefer this behavior. Thanks for any help you can give... Ed Baxter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 17 0:23:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns02.arpa-canada.net (dns02.arpa-canada.net [209.104.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1B6314DFB for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:23:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@MLINK.NET) Received: (qmail 91601 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Aug 1999 07:24:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 07:24:01 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 03:24:01 -0400 (EDT) From: matt X-Sender: matt@dns02.arpa-canada.net To: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Quotas. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, I have two questions now, testing some theories with an odd problem of mine; A) Is it possible that quota would mishandle a 9.3 GB partition? B) Is it possible that a minor/major problem with a hard drive would cause quota but nothing else to 'freak out'? For reference, the machine is FreeBSD 3.2-Stable as of August 6th, the hard drive is a 13 GB Quantum Fireball, IDE. Thanks, Matt -- matt@MLINK.NET To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 17 0:32:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from members.activetech.net (members.activetech.net [209.81.201.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA53C15602 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:32:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@activetech.net) Received: from wybitny (wybitny.activetech.net [209.81.201.10]) by members.activetech.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA15108 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:39:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <004801bee882$1ccde280$0ac951d1@activetech.net> From: "Kris Kedzierski" To: Subject: AMI RAID and 3.2 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:28:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is anyone using AMI Megaraid 428 ( or anything close) succesfully with 3.2? We just picked up the controller but i dont really feel like spending 2 days on smthg that might not work. Thanx Kris Kedzierski Activetech kris@activetech.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 17 0:40:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [209.133.28.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B3315640 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:40:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from whenever ([209.133.29.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:40:24 -0700 From: "David Schwartz" To: Subject: panic: timeout handle full Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:40:24 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bee883$c49b8980$021d85d1@youwant.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just had one of my servers crash with this panic from kern_timeout.c. The relevant code seems to be: /* Fill in the next free callout structure. */ new = SLIST_FIRST(&callfree); if (new == NULL) /* XXX Attempt to malloc first */ panic("timeout table full"); SLIST_REMOVE_HEAD(&callfree, c_links.sle); I'm just curious, what might consume too many timeout structures? And can I cause it to default to more of them? DS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 17 3:35:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54EB3155F1 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 03:35:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (haldjas.folklore.ee [172.17.2.1] (may be forged)) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA01377; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:35:59 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:35:59 +0300 (EEST) From: Narvi To: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP over OpenSSL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, Mike Meyer wrote: > On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Michael Robinson wrote: > :->>Well, if you've got it installed and working, you could build a port > :->>for it submit that as a pr. > :->No port is necessary; *BSD is the target operating system (along with Linux). > > No, that just means the port is trivial, not unnecessary. Adding it as > a port means that it's got a record in the list of avaiable > applications, and that a package for it should wind up on the CD-ROM > distribution. These are Good Things(TM), and to be encouraged. > Don't the crypto restriction get in the way? > Sander There is no love, no good, no happiness and no future - all these are just illusions. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 17 3:48:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dialup124.zpr.uni-koeln.de (1-106.K.dial.o-tel-o.net [212.144.1.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D73D14DBE; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 03:48:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from se@zpr.uni-koeln.de) Received: by dialup124.zpr.uni-koeln.de (Postfix, from userid 200) id 600DFD56; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:38:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:38:27 +0200 From: Stefan Esser To: Ed Baxter Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Stefan Esser Subject: Re: how to stop route redirects Message-ID: <19990817113827.A530@dialup124.zpr.uni-koeln.de> Reply-To: se@freebsd.org References: <9908161526560P.13614@redhat> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <9908161526560P.13614@redhat>; from Ed Baxter on Mon, Aug 16, 1999 at 03:15:28PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 1999-08-16 15:15 -0700, Ed Baxter wrote: Route redirect is based on ICMP. See "man ipfw" (or "man ipf") and referred man-pages for the packet filter extensions that allow blocking of all or specific ICMP redirect messages. If you are running a recent -current (After August 10th), then you can control how the kernel reacts on ICMP redirect packets: net.inet.icmp.log_redirect: 0 net.inet.icmp.drop_redirect: 0 Use "sysctl -w net.inet.icmp.drop_redirect=1" to ignore all ICMP redirects (possibly after prior logging, if "log_riderects" == 1. (You may want to merge that code into -stable, else: cd /sys/netinet cvs up -kk -j 1.35 ip_icmp.c Or apply the patch at the end of this file to just add the "drop" feature to -stable ...) Regards, STefan Index: ip_icmp.c =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/sys/netinet/ip_icmp.c,v retrieving revision 1.33.2.1 diff -u -2 -r1.33.2.1 ip_icmp.c --- ip_icmp.c 1999/03/06 23:11:41 1.33.2.1 +++ ip_icmp.c 1999/08/17 09:36:45 @@ -70,4 +70,8 @@ &icmpmaskrepl, 0, ""); +static int drop_redirect = 0; +SYSCTL_INT(_net_inet_icmp, OID_AUTO, drop_redirect, CTLFLAG_RW, + &drop_redirect, 0, ""); + #ifdef ICMP_BANDLIM @@ -463,4 +467,6 @@ case ICMP_REDIRECT: + if (drop_redirect) + break; if (code > 3) goto badcode; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 17 4:55:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A3B3814CA3 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:55:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 17 Aug 1999 12:56:17 +0100 (BST) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: vm_fault: pager read error on NFS filesystems. X-Request-Do: Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:56:17 +0100 From: David Malone Message-ID: <199908171256.aa44534@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When a user deletes/changes a running executable over NFS it results in lots of "vm_fault: pager read error" messages. However, the program seems to keep running indefinitely, and logging messages. Someone running a parrallel program recompiled and added 184888 lines to /var/log/messages in a little over an hour. Would it be reasonable for the kernel to send a SIGSEGV or SIGKILL to such processes rather than try to page bits of them in forever? Or should I do something gross like write a script that checks /var/log/messages for errent processes? David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 17 8:17:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.clientlogic.com (ns.clientlogic.com [207.51.66.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292F1155D9 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:17:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ChrisMic@clientlogic.com) Received: by site0s1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:17:04 -0400 Message-ID: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105B94@site2s1> From: Christopher Michaels To: 'matt' , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: RE: Quotas. Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:19:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I suppose anything is possible. I don't think it's likely. I have quota running on a 21GB /usr partition w/o any trouble what so ever. It might help if you sent the actual problem you are having back to the mailing list. -Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: matt [SMTP:matt@MLINK.NET] > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 3:24 AM > To: FreeBSD-STABLE > Subject: Quotas. > > > Greetings, > > I have two questions now, testing some theories with an odd problem of > mine; A) Is it possible that quota would mishandle a 9.3 GB partition? > B) Is it possible that a minor/major problem with a hard drive would cause > quota but nothing else to 'freak out'? For reference, the machine is > FreeBSD 3.2-Stable as of August 6th, the hard drive is a 13 GB Quantum > Fireball, IDE. > > Thanks, > Matt > -- > matt@MLINK.NET > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 17 8:47:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns02.arpa-canada.net (dns02.arpa-canada.net [209.104.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 21C7F14DC0 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:47:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@MLINK.NET) Received: (qmail 6693 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Aug 1999 15:47:35 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 15:47:35 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:47:35 -0400 (EDT) From: matt X-Sender: matt@dns02.arpa-canada.net To: Christopher Michaels Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: RE: Quotas. In-Reply-To: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105B94@site2s1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Christopher Michaels wrote: : I suppose anything is possible. I don't think it's likely. I have quota : running on a 21GB /usr partition w/o any trouble what so ever. I thought just as much, I was mainly grasping at any possible contributing cause. : It might help if you sent the actual problem you are having back to the : mailing list. I wanted to avoid this a bit more until I could get my mind clear about what the actual 'real' problem is, but I'm out of ideas now; unless the hard drive is screwed up. Problem is as follows, with some background information. I have two "almost" twin machines; Both are running 3.2-Stable as of August 6th, they were cvsup'd within an hour of each other. They have identical hardware and identical kernels, with the exception of hard drives. The functional machine has a 8.3G Western Digital HD, whereas the non-functional(now that is) one has a 13.6G Quantum Fireball. (Both IDE) However, adding quota's on the "non-functional" machine half locks the machine within 2 minutes of adding them -- Telnet, SSH, Qmail, POP3, Bind, all lock and disallow any connections or logins, but the IRCd on the machine and my bnc run fine and accept connections. This problem is "solved" by a hard reboot as long as check_quotas=YES isn't in the rc.conf. (It won't allow console logins either) On the "functional" machine, quotas work flawlessly, no problems whatsoever, I have tested this in about as many ways as I can think of. So I'm lead to believe that this is not a quota or FreeBSD related problem, except for the fact that on one machine quota locks it up every single time without fail. Unfortunately, the machines are in two different locations, so I'm lacking the ability to test the hard drive of the "non-functional" machine for now. I have the feeling now, that this is a hard drive problem -- However, before I go out and get another HD to replace it with, I am asking opinions on the list =) Any help is much appreciated, the machine IS a mission critical machine and quotas MUST be there, this is not an option unfortunately. : -Chris [quoted email snipped] Thanks for any help or theories, Matt -- matt@MLINK.NET To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 17 10:34:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from SandBox.ca (sandbox.ca [134.117.100.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 93FA7157B1 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:34:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patrick@mindstep.com) Received: from isdn8.sandbox.ca by SandBox.ca (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA29549; Tue, 17 Aug 99 13:00:26 -0400 Message-Id: <009201bee8d7$6d8e2f40$6301a8c0@blackline.on.ca> From: "Patrick Bihan-Faou (MindStep)" Cc: References: Subject: Re: PPP over OpenSSL Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:39:12 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, From: Narvi > Don't the crypto restriction get in the way? Well the crypto export restriction applies to openssl, the pipsecd port depends on openssl. Also it does not implement any encryption by itself, so I would expect that no, the pipsecd port is not restricted. The libraries it links with might, but that's a problem for the library, not pipsecd. Patrick. MindStep Corporation To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 17 10:53:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [209.157.82.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1AF6B14EBB for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:53:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 19750 invoked by uid 100); 17 Aug 1999 17:54:26 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 17:54:26 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:54:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Meyer To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP over OpenSSL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Narvi wrote: :->> No, that just means the port is trivial, not unnecessary. Adding it as :->> a port means that it's got a record in the list of avaiable :->> applications, and that a package for it should wind up on the CD-ROM :->> distribution. These are Good Things(TM), and to be encouraged. :->Don't the crypto restriction get in the way? The ports collection has ways to deal with that. It means that some distributions can't include the binary package, but all the other advantages listed here by various people still apply. ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:24:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@activetech.net) Received: from wybitny (wybitny.activetech.net [209.81.201.10]) by members.activetech.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA16956; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:32:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003801bee8dd$49017000$0ac951d1@activetech.net> From: "Kris Kedzierski" To: "Jason Thomson" Cc: References: <37B9688A.9B6CC6F5@mintel.co.uk> Subject: Re: Off Topic: Anyone else experiencing intermittent DNS problems? Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:21:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Apologies for the off-topic post, but we have been > experiencing intermittent DNS problems, and I was wondering > if other people are also experiencing problems? > > We have been seeing intermittent problems since late last > week. Some queries would fail, and then a short time later > succeed. It may well be our service provider here, but I'm > just wondering whether other people have seen transient > network errors. (I know this shouldn't affect _only_ DNS, > but that appears to be the only symptoms we're seeing - > maybe because of traffic type / patterns and caching > behaviour). > > It all seems to be working OK now though (so maybe I was > just dreaming). Same thing here. Last friday was pretty bad and it seems to be ok now. My customers domains had problems with resolving for about half a day and now its ok. strange things happen every day Kris Kedzierski Activetech kris@activetech.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 17 11:27:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [209.133.28.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A655C14BF8 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:27:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from whenever ([209.133.29.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:27:47 -0700 From: "David Schwartz" To: Subject: RE: panic: timeout table full Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:27:48 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bee8de$3512a270$021d85d1@youwant.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000001bee883$c49b8980$021d85d1@youwant.to> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just browsed for any information I could find on this problem. It seems that my crash differs from the others reported in a few ways: 1) I was running 3.2-STABLE from about 26 days ago. 2) I had maxusers set to 64, not something absurd like 4. 3) My machine was not massively loaded at the time. Pretty much all it was doing was runnning xntpd (stratum one with over 100 clients) and compiling libc_r. I raised maxusers to 128 and re-cvsupped the latest. DS > I just had one of my servers crash with this panic from > kern_timeout.c. The > relevant code seems to be: > > /* Fill in the next free callout structure. */ > new = SLIST_FIRST(&callfree); > if (new == NULL) > /* XXX Attempt to malloc first */ > panic("timeout table full"); > SLIST_REMOVE_HEAD(&callfree, c_links.sle); > > I'm just curious, what might consume too many timeout > structures? And can I > cause it to default to more of them? > > DS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 17 11:39:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7B414CD3 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:39:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13579; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:37:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199908171837.LAA13579@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: Off Topic: Anyone else experiencing intermittent DNS problems? In-Reply-To: <003801bee8dd$49017000$0ac951d1@activetech.net> from Kris Kedzierski at "Aug 17, 1999 01:21:11 pm" To: kris@activetech.net (Kris Kedzierski) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jason.thomson@mintel.co.uk (Jason Thomson), freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > > > > Apologies for the off-topic post, but we have been > > experiencing intermittent DNS problems, and I was wondering > > if other people are also experiencing problems? > > > > We have been seeing intermittent problems since late last > > week. Some queries would fail, and then a short time later > > succeed. It may well be our service provider here, but I'm > > just wondering whether other people have seen transient > > network errors. (I know this shouldn't affect _only_ DNS, > > but that appears to be the only symptoms we're seeing - > > maybe because of traffic type / patterns and caching > > behaviour). > > > > It all seems to be working OK now though (so maybe I was > > just dreaming). > > Same thing here. Last friday was pretty bad and it seems to be ok now. My > customers domains had problems with resolving for about half a day and now > its ok. > strange things happen every day MCI has been having a nation wide frame relay problem for that last week or so. It has effected just about every one of thier customers at one time or another. -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 17 15:47: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from genesis.setjmp.net (genesis.setjmp.net [208.13.245.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747E214D08 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:46:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eric@setjmp.com) Received: from Apophis (eric@[10.0.0.193]) by genesis.setjmp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA14860 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:47:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from eric@setjmp.com) Message-ID: <003a01bee902$501fa490$c100000a@cfpower.com> From: "Eric A. Griff" To: Subject: Linux Emulation, works w/RedHat 6.0 binaries? Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:46:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi everyone, I am trying to get ColdFusion 4.5 beta Application Server to run under FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE. Unfortunatly, I cannot share the files w/anyone. The biggest problem is, it's built to run w/RedHat 6.0 . The stopping point on all is: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Is there a RedHat tainted version of linux_lib? Or any other way I might get this lib's functionality into the bigger picture? Thanx a million Eric A. Griff , http://www.setjmp.com setjmp Software Your source for custom 181 Genesee Street Software Solutions. Suite 504 Utica, NY 13501 ICQ# 28146852 Office: (315) 734-1668 Extension 205 Home: (315) 495-2385 (seldom) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 17 17:27: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from poboxer.pobox.com (ferg5200-2-110.cpinternet.com [208.149.16.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1198614D87; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:26:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alk@poboxer.pobox.com) Received: (from alk@localhost) by poboxer.pobox.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA05315; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:25:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from alk) From: Anthony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:25:37 -0500 (CDT) X-Face: \h9Jg:Cuivl4S*UP-)gO.6O=T]]@ncM*tn4zG);)lk#4|lqEx=*talx?.Gk,dMQU2)ptPC17cpBzm(l'M|H8BUF1&]dDCxZ.c~Wy6-j,^V1E(NtX$FpkkdnJixsJHE95JlhO 5\M3jh'YiO7KPCn0~W`Ro44_TB@&JuuqRqgPL'0/{):7rU-%.*@/>q?1&Ed Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: marcel@scc.nl Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: linux emulation in 3.2 current References: <86aerq2p42.fsf@linum.cofc.edu> <37B9C7A1.926A64DC@scc.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14265.64852.670979.281356@avalon.east> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoth Marcel Moolenaar on Tue, 17 August: : : For starters, COMPAT_LINUX is obsoleted. Use the linux module. : Does obsoleted mean desupported? In STABLE? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 17 23:37:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.scc.nl (node1374.a2000.nl [62.108.19.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344CF15790 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:37:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@scc.nl) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mail.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA32443 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:08:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@scc.nl) Received: from GATEWAY by dwarf.hq.scc.nl with netnews for stable@FreeBSD.ORG (stable@FreeBSD.ORG) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:08:54 +0200 From: Remco Moolenaar Message-ID: <37BA4DF6.E3B6A3F0@scc.nl> Organization: SCC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <003a01bee902$501fa490$c100000a@cfpower.com> Reply-To: remco@scc.nl Subject: Re: Linux Emulation, works w/RedHat 6.0 binaries? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Eric A. Griff" wrote: > libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or > directory > > Is there a RedHat tainted version of linux_lib? Or any other way I > might get this lib's functionality into the bigger picture? Check http://www.freebsd.org/~marcel/ for a RedHat 6.0 Linux port. It is still in beta. Could you keep us informed on the progress of using ColdFusion. I myself would be really interested to know if it works!! -- Remco Moolenaar mailto:remco@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 17 23:52:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF75B14D49; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:52:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Received: from mail.scc.nl (i057.ztm.euronet.nl [194.134.112.58]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09171; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:52:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from scc.nl (scones.sup.scc.nl [192.168.2.4]) by mail.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21935; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:52:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Message-ID: <37BA5847.4953D0C@scc.nl> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:52:55 +0200 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: SCC vof X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alk@pobox.com Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: linux emulation in 3.2 current References: <86aerq2p42.fsf@linum.cofc.edu> <37B9C7A1.926A64DC@scc.nl> <14265.64852.670979.281356@avalon.east> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anthony Kimball wrote: > > Quoth Marcel Moolenaar on Tue, 17 August: > : > : For starters, COMPAT_LINUX is obsoleted. Use the linux module. > : > > Does obsoleted mean desupported? In STABLE? Yes. COMPAT_LINUX disappeared 3 years ago. The reason that you can still use it is because it reappeared for the purpose of compiling LINT (IIRC). The fact that it still can be used to actually built a working kernel is *not* deliberate, but more a question of "luck". -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 18 0:24:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB2115627 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:24:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@scc.nl) Received: from mail.scc.nl (i010.ztm.euronet.nl [194.134.112.11]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25333 from for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:24:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mail.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA25546 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:20:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@scc.nl) Received: from GATEWAY by scones.sup.scc.nl with netnews for stable@FreeBSD.ORG (stable@FreeBSD.ORG) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:20:34 +0200 From: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <37BA5EC2.8BE5CDE3@scc.nl> Organization: SCC vof Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <003a01bee902$501fa490$c100000a@cfpower.com> Subject: Re: Linux Emulation, works w/RedHat 6.0 binaries? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Eric A. Griff" wrote: > Is there a RedHat tainted version of linux_lib? Or any other way I > might get this lib's functionality into the bigger picture? The big picture: linux_lib has been replaced by linux_base, which is based on RH 5.2 packages. Linux mode on -stable does not yet support the additional requirements of a RH 6.0 based environment, although -current now does. RH 6.0 based versions of linux_base and linux_devtools can be downloaded from my personal pages at http://www.FreeBSD.org/~marcel/ for those running -current. I'll make you a deal: I'll invest some time now to make you a set of patches so that you can run RH 6.0 based programs on -stable, if you are willing to invest some time in testing and debugging it if a problem does occur. If it all works out well, I might get it into the next release. How does that sound? -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 18 0:51: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2226D1565D; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:50:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA13145; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:37:44 +1000 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:37:44 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199908180737.RAA13145@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: alk@pobox.com, marcel@scc.nl Subject: Re: linux emulation in 3.2 current Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> : For starters, COMPAT_LINUX is obsoleted. Use the linux module. >> : >> >> Does obsoleted mean desupported? In STABLE? > >Yes. COMPAT_LINUX disappeared 3 years ago. The reason that you can still No. COMPAT_LINUX is what you use to configure the Linux emulator for compiling into the kernel. All that went away a few years ago was ifdefs on COMPAT_LINUX and/or LINUX, since such ifdefs broke compiling the emulator as a module. There is some confusion in the main log messages about this (options.i386 rev.1.6 and 1.7). They logs say that COMPAT_LINUX went away. Actually, only LINUX went away. >use it is because it reappeared for the purpose of compiling LINT (IIRC). >The fact that it still can be used to actually built a working kernel is >*not* deliberate, but more a question of "luck". No, it is deliberate. All modules are supposed to be compilable into the kernel. I don't believe in modules, so I compile everything that I need into the kernel, except the linux module since emulators are certain to have a higher density of security holes than most parts of the kernel. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 18 0:58:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from oskar.nanoteq.co.za (oskar.nanoteq.co.za [196.37.91.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86D214D4B for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:57:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbezuide@oskar.nanoteq.co.za) Received: (from rbezuide@localhost) by oskar.nanoteq.co.za (8.9.0/8.9.0) id JAA11764; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:58:50 +0200 (SAT) From: Reinier Bezuidenhout Message-Id: <199908180758.JAA11764@oskar.nanoteq.co.za> Subject: Re: Linux Emulation, works w/RedHat 6.0 binaries? In-Reply-To: <37BA5EC2.8BE5CDE3@scc.nl> from Marcel Moolenaar at "Aug 18, 99 09:20:34 am" To: marcel@scc.nl (Marcel Moolenaar) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:58:49 +0200 (SAT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ... I'll join this deal too :) I'll help test and debug for -stable Bomb away !!! Reinier > "Eric A. Griff" wrote: > > > Is there a RedHat tainted version of linux_lib? Or any other way I > > might get this lib's functionality into the bigger picture? > > The big picture: linux_lib has been replaced by linux_base, which is based > on RH 5.2 packages. Linux mode on -stable does not yet support the > additional requirements of a RH 6.0 based environment, although -current > now does. RH 6.0 based versions of linux_base and linux_devtools can be > downloaded from my personal pages at http://www.FreeBSD.org/~marcel/ for > those running -current. > > I'll make you a deal: I'll invest some time now to make you a set of > patches so that you can run RH 6.0 based programs on -stable, if you are > willing to invest some time in testing and debugging it if a problem does > occur. If it all works out well, I might get it into the next release. How > does that sound? > > -- > Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl > SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ > Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 18 0:59:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from johann.inet.co.th (johann.inet.co.th [203.150.17.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40A315724 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:59:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaiwan@inet.co.th) Received: from localhost (kaiwan@localhost) by johann.inet.co.th (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA02633 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:59:44 +0700 (GMT+0700) X-Authentication-Warning: johann.inet.co.th: kaiwan owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:59:44 +0700 (GMT+0700) From: Kaiwan Hongladaromp To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: squid doc on fixing FreeBSD.. is this neccessary? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi.. I was scanning Squid's document and it mentions some things need to be done on FreeBSD's kernel and env. you can see the doc at URL: http://squid.nlanr.net/Squid/FAQ/FAQ-14.html#ss14.2 in summary it has 3 points 1. bug in T/TCP (TCP extenstion) 2. dnsserver performance problem that can be fixed by the supplied patched or increase MSIZE. 3. NIS can anyone comfirm if this is all fixed? I'm not using FreeBSD for web proxy right now but most of our core servers are running FreeBSD. I'd just want to make sure that they are all performing at best. Regards, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 18 1:21:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69577156B3; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 01:21:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Received: from mail.scc.nl (i220.ztm.euronet.nl [194.134.67.21]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27861; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:22:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from scc.nl (scones.sup.scc.nl [192.168.2.4]) by mail.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27561; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:21:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Message-ID: <37BA6D27.ED60CD61@scc.nl> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:21:59 +0200 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: SCC vof X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Evans Cc: alk@pobox.com, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: linux emulation in 3.2 current References: <199908180737.RAA13145@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bruce Evans wrote: > > >> : For starters, COMPAT_LINUX is obsoleted. Use the linux module. > >> : > >> > >> Does obsoleted mean desupported? In STABLE? > > > >Yes. COMPAT_LINUX disappeared 3 years ago. The reason that you can still > > No. COMPAT_LINUX is what you use to configure the Linux emulator for > compiling into the kernel. All that went away a few years ago was > ifdefs on COMPAT_LINUX and/or LINUX, since such ifdefs broke compiling > the emulator as a module. There is some confusion in the main log > messages about this (options.i386 rev.1.6 and 1.7). They logs say that > COMPAT_LINUX went away. Actually, only LINUX went away. ==== diff -u -r1.6 -r1.7 --- src/sys/i386/conf/options.i386 1996/03/02 19:37:35 1.6 +++ src/sys/i386/conf/options.i386 1996/03/15 07:49:47 1.7 @@ -9,4 +9,3 @@ LARGEMEM opt_machdep.h MAXMEM opt_machdep.h LINUX opt_linux.h -COMPAT_LINUX opt_linux.h ==== The log does reflect the actual change. ==== diff -u -r1.11 -r1.12 --- src/sys/i386/conf/options.i386 1996/04/26 06:44:46 1.11 +++ src/sys/i386/conf/options.i386 1996/05/01 03:30:04 1.12 @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ -# $Id: options.i386,v 1.11 1996/04/26 06:44:46 sos Exp $ +# $Id: options.i386,v 1.12 1996/05/01 03:30:04 bde Exp $ BOUNCEPAGES opt_bounce.h USER_LDT MATH_EMULATE opt_math_emulate.h @@ -8,7 +8,6 @@ PANIC_REBOOT_WAIT_TIME opt_machdep.h LARGEMEM opt_machdep.h MAXMEM opt_machdep.h -LINUX opt_linux.h PERFMON opt_perfmon.h AUTO_EOI_1 opt_auto_eoi.h AUTO_EOI_2 opt_auto_eoi.h ==== At this time, both COMPAT_LINUX and LINUX are gone. ==== diff -u -r1.12 -r1.13 --- src/sys/i386/conf/options.i386 1996/05/01 03:30:04 1.12 +++ src/sys/i386/conf/options.i386 1996/05/11 04:39:44 1.13 @@ -1,9 +1,12 @@ -# $Id: options.i386,v 1.12 1996/05/01 03:30:04 bde Exp $ +# $Id: options.i386,v 1.13 1996/05/11 04:39:44 bde Exp $ BOUNCEPAGES opt_bounce.h USER_LDT MATH_EMULATE opt_math_emulate.h GPL_MATH_EMULATE opt_math_emulate.h -IBCS2 opt_ibcs2.h + +IBCS2 opt_dontuse.h +COMPAT_LINUX opt_dontuse.h + SHOW_BUSYBUFS opt_machdep.h PANIC_REBOOT_WAIT_TIME opt_machdep.h LARGEMEM opt_machdep.h ==== This change is accompanied by the following log: Hide options for emulators and static file systems in opt_dontuse.h. These options only apply at config time. Using them at compile time would break the corresponding lkms. Can you explain all this to me then? -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 18 1:31:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E142156B3 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 01:31:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Received: from mail.scc.nl (i018.ztm.euronet.nl [194.134.112.19]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02650; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:30:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from scc.nl (scones.sup.scc.nl [192.168.2.4]) by mail.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27892; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:30:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Message-ID: <37BA6F10.E81DFB24@scc.nl> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:30:08 +0200 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: SCC vof X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Reinier Bezuidenhout Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Emulation, works w/RedHat 6.0 binaries? References: <199908180758.JAA11764@oskar.nanoteq.co.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Reinier Bezuidenhout wrote: > I'll join this deal too :) > > I'll help test and debug for -stable > > Bomb away !!! Ok, you're in :-) -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 18 2:39: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5707B1582E; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 02:38:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA23772; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:36:50 +1000 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:36:50 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199908180936.TAA23772@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, marcel@scc.nl Subject: Re: linux emulation in 3.2 current Cc: alk@pobox.com, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >==== >diff -u -r1.6 -r1.7 >--- src/sys/i386/conf/options.i386 1996/03/02 19:37:35 1.6 >+++ src/sys/i386/conf/options.i386 1996/03/15 07:49:47 1.7 >@@ -9,4 +9,3 @@ > LARGEMEM opt_machdep.h > MAXMEM opt_machdep.h > LINUX opt_linux.h >-COMPAT_LINUX opt_linux.h >==== > >The log does reflect the actual change. But doesn't affect the fact that COMPAT_LINUX is an option. This part of the change just breaks support for COMPAT_LINUX as a new-style option -- it moves the definition of COMPAT_LINUX from opt_linux.h to the generated Makefile. References to COMPAT_LINUX (in lower case) still existed in files.i386 (and still exist now). If COMPAT_LINUX is _not_ an option, then config(8) also generates a header compat_linux.h that defines NCOMPAT_LINUX. config(8) still has this wart. Some device drivers depend on it. >==== >diff -u -r1.11 -r1.12 >--- src/sys/i386/conf/options.i386 1996/04/26 06:44:46 1.11 >+++ src/sys/i386/conf/options.i386 1996/05/01 03:30:04 1.12 >@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ >-# $Id: options.i386,v 1.11 1996/04/26 06:44:46 sos Exp $ >+# $Id: options.i386,v 1.12 1996/05/01 03:30:04 bde Exp $ > BOUNCEPAGES opt_bounce.h > USER_LDT > MATH_EMULATE opt_math_emulate.h >@@ -8,7 +8,6 @@ > PANIC_REBOOT_WAIT_TIME opt_machdep.h > LARGEMEM opt_machdep.h > MAXMEM opt_machdep.h >-LINUX opt_linux.h > PERFMON opt_perfmon.h > AUTO_EOI_1 opt_auto_eoi.h > AUTO_EOI_2 opt_auto_eoi.h >==== > >At this time, both COMPAT_LINUX and LINUX are gone. This change is correct, since `LINUX' isn't an option at all. >==== >diff -u -r1.12 -r1.13 >--- src/sys/i386/conf/options.i386 1996/05/01 03:30:04 1.12 >+++ src/sys/i386/conf/options.i386 1996/05/11 04:39:44 1.13 >@@ -1,9 +1,12 @@ >-# $Id: options.i386,v 1.12 1996/05/01 03:30:04 bde Exp $ >+# $Id: options.i386,v 1.13 1996/05/11 04:39:44 bde Exp $ > BOUNCEPAGES opt_bounce.h > USER_LDT > MATH_EMULATE opt_math_emulate.h > GPL_MATH_EMULATE opt_math_emulate.h >-IBCS2 opt_ibcs2.h >+ >+IBCS2 opt_dontuse.h >+COMPAT_LINUX opt_dontuse.h >+ > SHOW_BUSYBUFS opt_machdep.h > PANIC_REBOOT_WAIT_TIME opt_machdep.h > LARGEMEM opt_machdep.h >==== > >This change is accompanied by the following log: >Hide options for emulators and static file systems in opt_dontuse.h. >These options only apply at config time. Using them at compile time >would break the corresponding lkms. > >Can you explain all this to me then? No better than in the log message :-). sys/conf/options says it a little differently. We now have the bogus option `LINUX' in options.i386 again. It rotted back in options.i386 rev.1.78 and was fixed wrong in rev.1.81. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 18 4:24:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D789A156CB; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 04:24:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD241C99; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:24:48 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Marcel Moolenaar Cc: alk@pobox.com, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: linux emulation in 3.2 current In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:52:55 +0200." <37BA5847.4953D0C@scc.nl> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:24:48 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <19990818112448.6CD241C99@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > Anthony Kimball wrote: > > > > Quoth Marcel Moolenaar on Tue, 17 August: > > : > > : For starters, COMPAT_LINUX is obsoleted. Use the linux module. > > : > > > > Does obsoleted mean desupported? In STABLE? > > Yes. COMPAT_LINUX disappeared 3 years ago. The reason that you can still > use it is because it reappeared for the purpose of compiling LINT (IIRC). > The fact that it still can be used to actually built a working kernel is > *not* deliberate, but more a question of "luck". No, support is very explicit for it: peter@overcee[7:22pm]~src/sys-108> grep -i linux i386/conf/files.i386 linux_genassym optional compat_linux \ dependency "$S/i386/linux/linux_genassym.c $S/i386/linux/linux.h" \ clean "linux_genassym" linux_assym.h optional compat_linux \ dependency "linux_genassym" \ compile-with "./linux_genassym > $@" \ clean "linux_assym.h" i386/linux/imgact_linux.c optional compat_linux i386/linux/linux_dummy.c optional compat_linux i386/linux/linux_file.c optional compat_linux i386/linux/linux_ioctl.c optional compat_linux i386/linux/linux_ipc.c optional compat_linux i386/linux/linux_locore.s optional compat_linux \ dependency "linux_assym.h" i386/linux/linux_misc.c optional compat_linux i386/linux/linux_signal.c optional compat_linux i386/linux/linux_socket.c optional compat_linux i386/linux/linux_stats.c optional compat_linux i386/linux/linux_sysent.c optional compat_linux i386/linux/linux_sysvec.c optional compat_linux i386/linux/linux_util.c optional compat_linux The ability to build a static kernel with no modules isn't likely to go away. The default kernel delivery method may change to being highly modular so that folks never need to recompile for reconfiguring, but it'll almost certainly always remain an option to build a single monolithic kernel file. Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 18 5:36:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CDAB157AA; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 05:36:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Received: from mail.scc.nl (i045.ztm.euronet.nl [194.134.112.46]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23216; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:36:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from scc.nl (scones.sup.scc.nl [192.168.2.4]) by mail.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA36528; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:36:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Message-ID: <37BAA8D7.AB05707C@scc.nl> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:36:39 +0200 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: SCC vof X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Wemm Cc: alk@pobox.com, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: linux emulation in 3.2 current References: <19990818112448.6CD241C99@overcee.netplex.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Wemm wrote: > > Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > Anthony Kimball wrote: > > > > > > Quoth Marcel Moolenaar on Tue, 17 August: > > > : > > > : For starters, COMPAT_LINUX is obsoleted. Use the linux module. > > > : > > > > > > Does obsoleted mean desupported? In STABLE? > > > > Yes. COMPAT_LINUX disappeared 3 years ago. The reason that you can still > > use it is because it reappeared for the purpose of compiling LINT (IIRC). > > The fact that it still can be used to actually built a working kernel is > > *not* deliberate, but more a question of "luck". > > No, support is very explicit for it: The matter has been explained to me by bde. I am (or was) mistaken on multiple grounds. The pointy hat's here, in case someone else needs it :-/ -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 18 7:23:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from seamud.oz.net (sense-samz-230.oz.net [216.39.153.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D6814C25 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:23:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from samz@oz.net) Received: from sam-win (sam-win.seamud.oz.net [10.0.0.2]) by seamud.oz.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02943 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:23:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from samz@oz.net) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990818071903.0095d3c0@mail2.oz.net> X-Sender: samz@mail.oz.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:23:44 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Sam Zamarripa Subject: Bridging and Stable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm using 3-2 Stable..sources cvsup'd as of 3 days ago This morning I tried to use bridging on freebsd. Because I have 2 real IP's from my ISP and bridging would solve some of the issues I have with using STATIC-NAT like I have been using. Got my new Kernel compiled with options BRIDGE and DUMMYNET And for the short period I got it to work..it worked exactly like i wanted it to. But this is a problem. First..half the time..it wouldn't work at all. After boot up..i would do the SYSCTL variables..the log would say everything is a go..but my 2nd box was just dead. couldn't ping or anything. The route was never getting set. But when it would work...everything would go beautifully for about 10 minutes..then for no apparent reason with no log errors, bridging would just stop. I no longer could ping or get anywhere. Is bridging still extremely buggy? Both my NIC's in the freebsd box are "XL" drivers and the man page on bridge says its reported. Anybody have any clue what might be going on? Any help is appreciated. Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 18 9:20: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2BE14EF8 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:20:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brooks@one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from localhost (brdavis@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08386; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:20:04 -0700 (PDT) From: brooks@one-eyed-alien.net X-Authentication-Warning: orion.ac.hmc.edu: brdavis owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:20:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: brdavis@orion.ac.hmc.edu To: Sam Zamarripa Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bridging and Stable In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990818071903.0095d3c0@mail2.oz.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Sam Zamarripa wrote: > Is bridging still extremely buggy? Both my NIC's in the freebsd box are > "XL" drivers and the man page on bridge says its reported. Anybody have any > clue what might be going on? Any help is appreciated. I think I can safely say it works fine (unless someone broke it recently, which seems unlikely). I've got it running with to fxp (Intel) cards in a situation very similar to the one you appear to be describing. As far as I can tell, all you have to do is turn it on and it works. Since it appears you only have two hosts I have to wonder, why not sell off one of the extra xl's and buy a 4-5 port hub so both hosts are on directly attached? Obviously that eliminates firewalling, but it would eliminate a bunch of complexity. -- Brooks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 18 13:32:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop-c.netway.at (pop-c.netway.at [195.96.0.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA2D1605D for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:32:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rmike@t1p019.at-316.netway.at) Received: from pop-d.netway.at (pop-d.netway.at [195.96.0.131]) by pop-c.netway.at (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA17289 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:32:10 +0200 Received: from t1p019.at-316.netway.at (t1p019.at-316.netway.at [195.96.17.147]) by pop-d.netway.at (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA01492 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:32:08 +0200 Received: (from rmike@localhost) by dwarf.netway.at (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA01042 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:31:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rmike) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:31:24 +0200 (CEST) Organization: ../NETlounge/tech - Mariazell Online From: Michael Ranner To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: sendmail 8.9.3 from 3.2 strips lines in base64 parts of MIME messages Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello there! Sendmail 8.9.3 from FreeBSD 3.2 seems to strip lines in the base64 encoded part of a MIME message. I've tried to mail (not local delivering) some ZIP-archives > 100k (base64 encoded - octet-stream) and sendmail 8.9.3 strips some lines in the part of the attached file. I have the standard sendmail.cf from the installation, only DSpop.netway.at for smart relay and DJjawa.at for masquerading are modified. The mail server is connected to the internet via dial up ppp (isdnd, sppp, natd). MUA: pine4, xfmail (both FreeBSD 3.2) and Netscape 4.51 (Win98). The mail clients connect via smtp to our local mail server which relays to pop.netway.at. If I send a mail outside our local domain the message will be corrupted. If I change the configuration for the mail clients to connect direct the ISP's mail server (sendmail 8.9.1) instead of our local 8.9.3 mail server the messages are not corrupted. Any ideas are welcome! cu Michael /\/\ichael Ranner - Michael.Ranner@netway.at - webmaster@mariazell.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Homepage: http://www.netlounge.at/mranner/ Mariazell Online: http://www.mariazell.org/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- God made machine language; all the rest is the work of man. ------------------------ END OF TRANSMISSION ------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 18 14:43:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shosier.iclick.com (shosier.iclick.com [209.176.19.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E96B14F65 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:43:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jsachs@iclick.com) Received: from iclick.com (localhost.iclick.com [127.0.0.1]) by shosier.iclick.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05798 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:45:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsachs@iclick.com) Message-ID: <37BB2972.17A10BB1@iclick.com> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:45:22 -0400 From: Jay Sachs X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ASX2201 Soundcard References: <199908182136.RAA00917@mamba-e.gsfc.nasa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG George Uhl wrote: > I have a Yamaha DS-XG soundcard. PnP detects it in FreeBSD 3.2 > but are there any drivers that support it yet? Is this the integrated one (e.g. on a Dell Timenion TXXXX)? I have one too, but I can't even get it detected, this is in -stable as of yesterday morning. Would you mind sharing your kernel config? According to Yamaha's website, it can emulate a SBPro. I couldn't get the old (non-pcm) sound drivers to find it directly as an SBPro though. -jay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 18 18:13:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relax.dreamfire.net (relax.dreamfire.net [207.113.154.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 568C415667 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:13:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sean@dreamfire.net) Received: (qmail 40815 invoked from network); 19 Aug 1999 01:13:45 -0000 Received: from waif.dreamfire.net (HELO dreamfire.net) (192.168.10.8) by relax.dreamfire.net with SMTP; 19 Aug 1999 01:13:45 -0000 Message-ID: <37BB59D0.72484081@dreamfire.net> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:11:44 -0700 From: Sean-Paul Rees X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: AMD PCnet 10/100 PCI usability Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a PCnet 10/100 adapter built onto my motherboard (PC Server 325), and FreeBSD picks it up as "lnc1." The damned thing got 3-4k/sec transfers at the most. It appeared to not be negotiating with the hub correctly. It looks like I'm going to need a second ethernet in that particular machine to run NATD for a DSL. Is anybody getting decent performance with that adapter in a similar configuration? I'd like to save $50. Cheers, Sean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 18 18:47:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8E514F75 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:47:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA17508; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:46:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199908190146.SAA17508@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: AMD PCnet 10/100 PCI usability In-Reply-To: <37BB59D0.72484081@dreamfire.net> from Sean-Paul Rees at "Aug 18, 1999 06:11:44 pm" To: sean@dreamfire.net (Sean-Paul Rees) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have a PCnet 10/100 adapter built onto my motherboard (PC Server 325), > and FreeBSD picks it up as "lnc1." The damned thing got 3-4k/sec > transfers at the most. It appeared to not be negotiating with the hub > correctly. > > It looks like I'm going to need a second ethernet in that particular > machine to run NATD for a DSL. Is anybody getting decent performance > with that adapter in a similar configuration? I'd like to save $50. Weve got about 8 of the IBM PC 325's on our network and have had no problem what so ever with the ethernet ports in them. Some are running on 10MB switched ports, others on 100MB shared, and 2 on 100MB switched. Check your cables.... ?? -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 18 18:53:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tsolab.org (dnl.rockefeller.edu [129.85.17.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D5E150C2 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:53:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@tsolab.org) Received: from tsolab.org ([192.168.2.4]) by tsolab.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA10991; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:01:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dan@tsolab.org) Message-ID: <37BB638C.A7E77FB@tsolab.org> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 21:53:16 -0400 From: Dan Tso Reply-To: dan@tsolab.org Organization: The Rockefeller University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean-Paul Rees Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD PCnet 10/100 PCI usability References: <37BB59D0.72484081@dreamfire.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sean-Paul Rees wrote: > > I have a PCnet 10/100 adapter built onto my motherboard (PC Server 325), > and FreeBSD picks it up as "lnc1." The damned thing got 3-4k/sec > transfers at the most. It appeared to not be negotiating with the hub > correctly. > > It looks like I'm going to need a second ethernet in that particular > machine to run NATD for a DSL. Is anybody getting decent performance > with that adapter in a similar configuration? I'd like to save $50. Have you tried playing with the MTU ? Some DSL's seem to like MTU's lower than 1500, like the popular 576. Also are you running SKIP ? SKIP mungs the MTU which some clients can't deal with. I had a situation with NATD and SKIP and Mac clients on a DSL. By disabling SKIP, the problem was solved. (Windows clients did not have a problem). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 18 19:39:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from easeway.com (ns1.easeway.com [209.69.39.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41AC15926 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:39:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@easeway.com) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by easeway.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id WAA01418 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:23:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908190223.WAA01418@easeway.com> Subject: make installworld breakage? To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:23:28 -0400 (EDT) From: mwlucas@exceptionet.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Supped this evening. Make buildworld ran just fine. I blew away /usr/obj before starting anything. [blah, blah, blah...] ===> gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ar install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 ar /usr/libexec/elf install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ar.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> gnu/usr.bin/binutils/as ===> gnu/usr.bin/binutils/as/as_i386 install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 as /usr/libexec/elf install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 as.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 ld /usr/libexec/elf install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ld.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 ldscripts/elf_i386.x ldscripts/elf_i386.xbn ldscripts/elf_i386.xn ldscripts/elf_i386.xr ldscripts/elf_i386.xs ldscripts/elf_i386.xu /usr/libdata/ldscripts install: ldscripts/elf_i386.xbn: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop. *** Error code 1 [repeat ad nauseum] -- Michael Lucas | Exceptionet, Inc. | www.exceptionet.com "Exceptional Networking" | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 18 21:13:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ripco.com (relay.ripco.com [209.100.227.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 25C8D159D7 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 21:12:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aphor@ripco.NOSPAM.com) Received: (qmail 13259 invoked from network); 19 Aug 1999 04:11:43 -0000 Received: from 228-121.ppp.ripco.net (HELO ripco.NOSPAM.com) (@209.100.228.121) by relay.ripco.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 1999 04:11:43 -0000 Message-ID: <37BB841C.951EDCAB@ripco.NOSPAM.com> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:12:12 -0500 From: Jeremy McMillan Reply-To: aphor@ripco.com Organization: Loose.. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: distributing STABLE using Installworld over NFS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There *must* be make installworld dependancies outside of the /usr/src and /usr/obj filesystems. Pulling an installworld (or install for that matter) from a remote machine's /usr/src/ and /usr/obj is broken. Pushing an installworld to the target machine by mounting it's filesystem is working. That tells me there's something necessary but unavailable when you try to make installworld from the older box. I have these remote mounted from a remote machine, which can't seem to find everything when it attempts most make targets. If I run the installworld from the master, with DESTDIR=/mnt which is a nfsmount of the target machine, ...well I'm *way* into the install process, into the usr.sbin stuff, well past the libraries that used to fail to install about 1 minute through. I'm not asking "what to do." I want to understand what's going on here. I manually copied the /etc/make.conf and /usr/share/mk/* to the distribution target, and it didn't affect my results when running make installworld from the target machine. Was make on the target machine out of sync with the makefiles in the 08-18 STABLE tree? -- PLEASE NOTICE: THERE MAY BE NOSPAM IN THE HEADERS WHEN YOU HIT "REPLY"!!! Jeremy McMillan | Ask for PGP-2.6.2 or 5.0i Chicago FreeBSD Users Group http://pages.ripco.com/~aphor/ChiFUG.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 18 23:54:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nix.dialup.com.au (nix.dialup.com.au [203.58.96.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B7414F63 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:53:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mynet@uq.net.au) Received: from uq.net.au (upstairs.dialup.com.au [203.58.96.30]) by nix.dialup.com.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA04855; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:48:44 +1000 Message-ID: <37BBA9C7.77BDC01@uq.net.au> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:52:55 +1000 From: Andrew X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean-Paul Rees Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD PCnet 10/100 PCI usability References: <37BB59D0.72484081@dreamfire.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Check the cables and try a different hub. You may find that the problem isn't the PCnet chip. I have used a PCnet card before and it worked fine. Cheers Andrew Sean-Paul Rees wrote: > I have a PCnet 10/100 adapter built onto my motherboard (PC Server 325), > and FreeBSD picks it up as "lnc1." The damned thing got 3-4k/sec > transfers at the most. It appeared to not be negotiating with the hub > correctly. > > It looks like I'm going to need a second ethernet in that particular > machine to run NATD for a DSL. Is anybody getting decent performance > with that adapter in a similar configuration? I'd like to save $50. > > Cheers, > Sean > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 0:22:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gandalf.telecom.at (gandalf.telecom.at [194.118.26.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C49F14F06 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:22:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Markus.Minihold@telecom.at) Received: from lergontr.server.lan.at (lergonrsm.server.lan.at [10.3.101.84]) by gandalf.telecom.at (xxx/xxx) with ESMTP id JAA286064 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:21:51 +0200 Received: from rtrsco.bahq.co.at (rtrsco.bahq.co.at [10.1.1.180]) by lergontr.server.lan.at (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA37096 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:16:27 +0200 Message-ID: <37BBAF0F.46AB0E08@telecom.at> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:15:27 +0200 From: Markus Minihold X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ATAPI CD not dedected Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've problems installing FreeBSD 3.2 on a computer using only IDE drives. I've one harddisk and one cdrom. The HD is the primary device on first IDE controller, the ATAPI-CD is the primary device on secondary IDE controller. During bootup, the HD is dedected but the CD isn't. The second IDE controller is probed for a longer time but no device is dedected. Therefore the installation process fails. Could someone please give me some hints to fix this problem. Thanx, Markus -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Markus Minihold Tel: +43-1-21717-56108 P.O. Box 50.000 Fax: +43-1-21717-51222 1011 Vienna Email: Markus.Minihold@telecom.at Austria ************************************************************* You can still escape from the GATES of hell ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 0:28:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from serv1.is1.u-net.net (serv1.is1.u-net.net [195.102.240.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF89F14F06 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:28:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ) Received: from [195.102.240.137] (helo=192.193.195.25) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) id 11HMWN-0003cf-00; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:21:59 +0000 To: Markus Minihold , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: rjp@kietra.u-net.com Subject: Re: ATAPI CD not dedected Date: Thu, 19 Aug 99 08:27:15 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: U-NET Web Mailer v1.0 X-Mailer-Info: (c)1998 U-NET Internet Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I had this problem when I was installing 3.2-RELEASE on my new machine. I had an SONY ATAPI DVD drive as the secondary master device and a drive of some sort as the primary master. Moving the DVD drive to be the primary slave enabled FreeBSD to detect it. It has been fine ever since. Later I added another drive as the secondary master and everything is still working fine. I never did find out why it couldn't find the DVD when it was the secondary master. Experimental boots with a Linux floppy showed that it found it with no problems no matter where it was located. Hope this helps Rick > I've problems installing FreeBSD 3.2 on a computer using only IDE > drives. I've one harddisk and one cdrom. > > The HD is the primary device on first IDE controller, the ATAPI-CD is > the primary device on secondary IDE controller. During bootup, the HD is > dedected but the CD isn't. The second IDE controller is probed for a > longer time but no device is dedected. Therefore the installation > process fails. > > Could someone please give me some hints to fix this problem. > > Thanx, > Markus > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Markus Minihold Tel: +43-1-21717-56108 > P.O. Box 50.000 Fax: +43-1-21717-51222 > 1011 Vienna Email: Markus.Minihold@telecom.at > Austria > ************************************************************* > You can still escape from the GATES of hell > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > ---------------------------------------------------------- Generated by U-NET WebMail - http://www.webmail.u-net.net/ U-NET Internet - Easy Internet Access (01925) 484444 ---------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 4:53:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat203.199.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.203.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D789314BCD for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 04:53:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA69156 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:53:10 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:53:09 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 3.2-STABLE hangs after several hours ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG With a kernel as of yesterday (Aug 18th), after ~12hrs uptime, the whole things slows down to uselessness. It doesn't hang completely, mind you. When I got to work this morning, it allowed me to type in a command on an active shell I had, hit return and then hung, even though another screen that is doing a 'tail -f' of a web log shows it died around 01:58EST... On the previous kernel that it was running before yesterday, the box ran like a charm after Matt help'd me debug the 'VM fragmentation' bug... My serial console is unusable for doing a BRK, due to a problem with a PortMaster PM2e, so I can't get any debug information, but am going to start running the script Matt and I built up on the last debug to see if I can come up with *something*... Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 5:18:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat203.199.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.203.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3CC14C57 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 05:18:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA69654 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:18:12 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:18:12 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.2-STABLE hangs after several hours ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just got the serial console fixed, so if/when it happens again, I should be able to get down to the debugger and get more/better information... In case anyone is looking at this, with as little info as there is here, the last kernel updated was July 13th, so its between then and now that the "bug" appears to have been introduced... More as it becomes available... On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > With a kernel as of yesterday (Aug 18th), after ~12hrs uptime, the whole > things slows down to uselessness. > > It doesn't hang completely, mind you. When I got to work this morning, it > allowed me to type in a command on an active shell I had, hit return and > then hung, even though another screen that is doing a 'tail -f' of a web > log shows it died around 01:58EST... > > On the previous kernel that it was running before yesterday, the box ran > like a charm after Matt help'd me debug the 'VM fragmentation' bug... > > My serial console is unusable for doing a BRK, due to a problem with a > PortMaster PM2e, so I can't get any debug information, but am going to > start running the script Matt and I built up on the last debug to see if I > can come up with *something*... > > Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy > Systems Administrator @ hub.org > primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 7:36:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.forumone.com (orion.forumone.com [207.197.141.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E07814C4C for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:36:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adhir@forumone.com) Received: from adhir (unknown [216.181.56.84]) by mail.forumone.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D1E0CA8CC for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:36:17 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: To: Subject: suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:47:44 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 From: adhir@forumone.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG An excerpt from my security check output: > orion.forumone.com kernel log messages: > pmap_collect: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC > pmap_collect: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC > pmap_collect: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC > pmap_collect: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC So, can anyone: 1. tell me what this means 2. tell me how to increase it Thanks! Al To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 8:28:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trooper.velocet.ca (host-034.canadiantire.ca [209.146.201.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22928150B0 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:28:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@trooper.velocet.ca) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by trooper.velocet.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA74024; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:28:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14268.8841.35378.369275@trooper.velocet.ca> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:28:09 -0400 (EDT) To: Markus Minihold Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ATAPI CD not dedected In-Reply-To: <37BBAF0F.46AB0E08@telecom.at> References: <37BBAF0F.46AB0E08@telecom.at> X-Mailer: VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Markus" == Markus Minihold writes: Markus> I've problems installing FreeBSD 3.2 on a computer using only Markus> IDE drives. I've one harddisk and one cdrom. Markus> The HD is the primary device on first IDE controller, the Markus> ATAPI-CD is the primary device on secondary IDE Markus> controller. During bootup, the HD is dedected but the CD Markus> isn't. The second IDE controller is probed for a longer time Markus> but no device is dedected. Therefore the installation process Markus> fails. Markus> Could someone please give me some hints to fix this problem. Does the BIOS detect it? I have had several problems with various motherboard where the BIOS would not detect a primary IDE CDROM (but would detect a secondary). Contrary to common sense, you can have a secondary without a primary --- and this often works for those BIOSs. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 8:40:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93CF415296 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:40:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 11HUHx-0000qW-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:39:37 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:39:36 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATAPI CD not dedected Message-ID: <19990819113936.G166@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <37BBAF0F.46AB0E08@telecom.at> <14268.8841.35378.369275@trooper.velocet.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <14268.8841.35378.369275@trooper.velocet.ca>; from David Gilbert on Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 11:28:09AM -0400 X-fish: < Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Gilbert probably said: > Does the BIOS detect it? I have had several problems with various > motherboard where the BIOS would not detect a primary IDE CDROM (but > would detect a secondary). Contrary to common sense, you can have a > secondary without a primary --- and this often works for those BIOSs. I've had problems with freebsd with it not picking up the second IDE bus when there wasn't a second device on the first bus. Most recently on a P133 with two disks, I tried to put one per channel and the second bus wasn't found. I just moved the second disk to the first bus and disabled the 2nd IDE bus competely (all the speed dependant things were on scsi disk). P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@shore.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 9: 8:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from euromail1.genrad.com (x253.genrad.co.uk [195.99.3.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3385015024 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:08:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swindellsr@genrad.co.uk) Received: from CDP437 (cdp437.uk.genrad.com [132.223.130.44]) by euromail1.genrad.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id QY1WCV1C; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:08:11 +0100 From: Robert Swindells To: sean@dreamfire.net Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <37BB59D0.72484081@dreamfire.net> (message from Sean-Paul Rees on Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:11:44 -0700) Subject: Re: AMD PCnet 10/100 PCI usability Reply-To: rjs@fdy2.demon.co.uk Message-Id: <19990819160830.3385015024@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I have a PCnet 10/100 adapter built onto my motherboard (PC Server 325), >and FreeBSD picks it up as "lnc1." The damned thing got 3-4k/sec >transfers at the most. It appeared to not be negotiating with the hub >correctly. Yup, they can fail to autonegotiate. >It looks like I'm going to need a second ethernet in that particular >machine to run NATD for a DSL. Is anybody getting decent performance >with that adapter in a similar configuration? I'd like to save $50. They work fine when the settings match the hub. Interrupt overhead is fairly low too, better than NE2000 clones anyway. We really need to add if_media support to the driver. I got some way through doing it for 2.2.8 but then the driver in -CURRENT diverged too much. I have now upgraded to 3.2-STABLE so I'll take another look at it. The alternative is to force the chip into half-duplex mode in the driver. Robert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 9:35:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gandalf.telecom.at (gandalf.telecom.at [194.118.26.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D989414EA4 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:35:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Markus.Minihold@telecom.at) Received: from lergontr.server.lan.at (lergonrsm.server.lan.at [10.3.101.84]) by gandalf.telecom.at (xxx/xxx) with ESMTP id SAA136912; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:34:05 +0200 Received: from rtrsco.bahq.co.at (rtrsco.bahq.co.at [10.1.1.180]) by lergontr.server.lan.at (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA05642; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:28:41 +0200 Message-ID: <37BC307E.26ECDB5E@telecom.at> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:27:42 +0200 From: Markus Minihold X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Gilbert Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATAPI CD not dedected References: <37BBAF0F.46AB0E08@telecom.at> <14268.8841.35378.369275@trooper.velocet.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Gilbert wrote: > > Does the BIOS detect it? I have had several problems with various > motherboard where the BIOS would not detect a primary IDE CDROM (but > would detect a secondary). Contrary to common sense, you can have a > secondary without a primary --- and this often works for those BIOSs. > > Dave. in the meantime I've installed on the remaining diskspace (5GB for FreeBSD and 4GB for Linux) Linux, which dedected the ATAPI CD as secondary master without problems. I'll change some hardware settings now, CD will become secondary slave and primary slave. Perhaps this will help. Markus. > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Markus Minihold Tel: +43-1-21717-56108 P.O. Box 50.000 Fax: +43-1-21717-51222 1011 Vienna Email: Markus.Minihold@telecom.at Austria ************************************************************* You can still escape from the GATES of hell ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 9:46:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BFFE151E9 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:46:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 11HVJv-0007gT-00; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:45:43 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:45:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: aphor@ripco.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: distributing STABLE using Installworld over NFS In-Reply-To: <37BB841C.951EDCAB@ripco.NOSPAM.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Jeremy McMillan wrote: > There *must* be make installworld dependancies outside of the /usr/src and > /usr/obj filesystems. Pulling an installworld (or install for that matter) > from a remote machine's /usr/src/ and /usr/obj is broken. Pushing an Nope. I've done several installs of -stable onto various clients by mounting /usr/src and /usr/obj within in the last two weeks. No problems. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 9:55:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from news.IAEhv.nl (news.IAE.nl [194.151.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6171D1529D for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:55:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@bowtie.nl) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news.IAEhv.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with IAEhv.nl id SAA24404 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:55:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bowtie.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA07206 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:51:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@bowtie.nl) Message-Id: <199908191651.SAA07206@bowtie.nl> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: 3.3 when? Reply-To: marc@bowtie.nl Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:51:03 +0200 From: Marc van Kempen Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, When is 3.3 expected? Regards, Marc. ---------------------------------------------------- Marc van Kempen BowTie Technology Email: marc@bowtie.nl WWW & Databases tel. +31 40 2 43 20 65 fax. +31 40 2 44 21 86 http://www.bowtie.nl ---------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 10: 2:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from misha.cisco.com (misha.cisco.com [171.69.206.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCD51511C for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:02:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@misha.cisco.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA19413 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:01:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) Message-Id: <199908191701.NAA19413@misha.cisco.com> Subject: bison is being built with no optimization? To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:01:59 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com From: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL60 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems, the bison is built with no optimization. Is that an intended behaviour, or simply a missing plus sign its Makefile's CFLAGS= -DHAVE_CONFIG_H ? -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 10:15:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jawa.at (t2p018.at-316.netway.at [195.96.17.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185C215144 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:15:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mranner@netway.at) Received: from mike.netway.at (mike.jawa.at [192.168.0.51]) by jawa.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01644 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:14:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mranner@netway.at) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:14:18 +0200 (CEST) Organization: ../NETlounge/tech - Mariazell Online From: Michael Ranner To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: sendmail 8.9.3 from 3.2 strips lines in base64 parts of MIME mes Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello there! Sendmail 8.9.3 from FreeBSD 3.2 seems to strip lines in the base64 encoded part of a MIME message. I've tried to mail (not local delivering) some ZIP-archives > 100k (base64 encoded - octet-stream) and sendmail 8.9.3 strips some lines in the part of the attached file. I have the standard sendmail.cf from the installation, only DSpop.netway.at for smart relay and DJjawa.at for masquerading are modified. The mail server is connected to the internet via dial up ppp (isdnd, sppp, natd). MUA: pine4, xfmail (both FreeBSD 3.2) and Netscape 4.51 (Win98). The mail clients connect via smtp to our local mail server which relays to pop.netway.at. If I send a mail outside our local domain the message will be corrupted. If I change the configuration for the mail clients to connect direct the ISP's mail server (sendmail 8.9.1) instead of our local 8.9.3 mail server the messages are not corrupted. Any ideas are welcome! cu Michael /\/\ichael Ranner - Michael.Ranner@netway.at - webmaster@mariazell.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Homepage: http://www.netlounge.at/mranner/ Mariazell Online: http://www.mariazell.org/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- God made machine language; all the rest is the work of man. ------------------------ END OF TRANSMISSION ------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 11:23:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A9F14C18 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:23:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00815 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:23:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:23:43 +0200 (CEST) From: "O. Hartmann" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Login Problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I ran into trouble with some configuartions while adding a new group and moving users from another group into this group. The phenomenon is, that each user of the new group is not able to log in! Whenever I try a local or remote login by telnet or the login command, I get "Login incorrect" immediately after typing in the login name. There is no password question! Moving a user from this locked group into another, older group makes things moving again. I lloked up my /etc/login.access file an I did not find anything suspicious. login.conf is also clear and correct. All users got their new gid by chgrp, so all accounts are up to date right now. what happened? Is it a FBSD stupidity or more the stupidity of mine? Fiddling around with the group file doesn't work, only moving all users from the new group to the old one, which I want to have for special users, works. What's going one there? Is there another hidden database for groups? Editing passwd with vipw doesn't help, I changed all gids to the right values. I found out that /etc/group reacts really sensitive to misspelling groups or names within groups, but in this case, all names are up to date. Is anybody out there with similar problems? O. Hartmann Gruss O. Hartmann ------------------------------------------------------------------- ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de Klimadatenserver des IPA, Universitaet Mainz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 11:29:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E29B14C18 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:29:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA85122; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:29:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: marc@bowtie.nl Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.3 when? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:51:03 +0200." <199908191651.SAA07206@bowtie.nl> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:29:06 -0700 Message-ID: <85118.935087346@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG mid-September. > > Hi, > > When is 3.3 expected? > > Regards, > Marc. > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Marc van Kempen BowTie Technology > Email: marc@bowtie.nl WWW & Databases > tel. +31 40 2 43 20 65 > fax. +31 40 2 44 21 86 http://www.bowtie.nl > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 11:43:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958961513A for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:43:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA23937; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:40:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990819143914.010aec40@staff.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@staff.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:39:14 -0400 To: "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Login Problems In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >what happened? Is it a FBSD stupidity or more the stupidity of mine? Fiddling >around with the group file doesn't work, only moving all users from the new >group to the old one, which I want to have for special users, works. What's >going one there? What do the logs say ? You should see it come up in authpriv and auth, but you can turn on all messages if you add to /etc/syslog.conf *.* /var/log/all Do a touch /var/log/all ps -aux | grep syslog kill -1 tail -f /var/log/all and then try and login and see what error messages are generated. ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 12:58: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail3.atl.bellsouth.net (mail3.atl.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E65C14BEC for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:58:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wghicks@bellsouth.net) Received: from wghicks.bellsouth.net (host-216-78-32-64.ath.bellsouth.net [216.78.32.64]) by mail3.atl.bellsouth.net (3.3.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14903; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:56:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wghicks.bellsouth.net (wghicks@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wghicks.bellsouth.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA11324; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:00:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wghicks@wghicks.bellsouth.net) Message-Id: <199908192000.QAA11324@bellsouth.net> To: rjs@fdy2.demon.co.uk Cc: sean@dreamfire.net, stable@freebsd.org, wghicks@wghicks.bellsouth.net Subject: Re: AMD PCnet 10/100 PCI usability In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:08:30 PDT." <19990819160830.3385015024@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:00:42 -0400 From: W Gerald Hicks Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >I have a PCnet 10/100 adapter built onto my motherboard (PC Server 325), > >and FreeBSD picks it up as "lnc1." The damned thing got 3-4k/sec > >transfers at the most. It appeared to not be negotiating with the hub > >correctly. > Yup, they can fail to autonegotiate. I've been having problems with an older Tulip board on a non-standard system. It first appeared to be an autonegotiation problem but on closer inspection it was revealed that my buggy PCI BIOS isn't DTRT and interrupts aren't getting set up properly. No interrupts, no autoselect... Good Luck, Jerry Hicks wghicks@bellsouth.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 14:45:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chumbly.math.missouri.edu (chumbly.math.missouri.edu [128.206.72.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C39150A5 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:45:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rich@chumbly.math.missouri.edu) Received: (from rich@localhost) by chumbly.math.missouri.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id QAA26285; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:43:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Rich Winkel Message-Id: <199908192143.QAA26285@chumbly.math.missouri.edu> Subject: Re: distributing STABLE using Installworld over NFS To: aphor@ripco.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:43:52 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <37BB841C.951EDCAB@ripco.NOSPAM.com> from "Jeremy McMillan" at Aug 18, 99 11:12:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to Jeremy McMillan: > There *must* be make installworld dependancies outside of the /usr/src and > /usr/obj filesystems. Pulling an installworld (or install for that matter) > from a remote machine's /usr/src/ and /usr/obj is broken. Pushing an > installworld to the target machine by mounting it's filesystem is working. > That tells me there's something necessary but unavailable when you try to > make installworld from the older box. There's one "outside" dependency I know of. Some of the builds (such as perl) create symbolic links in the obj dir which have absolute rather than relative paths into the src directory. If, on the build server, /usr/src & /usr/obj are symbolic links to directories elsewhere (which in my case is true because I wanted to do the build on a softupdate'd disk and I'm not using softupdates on /usr) you'll run into problems installing from an nfs client if the "elsewhere" doesn't exist on the client. In my case I had to create a symbolic link /u2 -> usr on the client, then everything went smoothly. Rich To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 14:51:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from troi.csw.net (troi.csw.net [209.136.192.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E6741527F for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:51:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lambert@cswnet.com) Received: from ssaos2.csw.net (ssaos2.csw.net [209.136.201.13]) by troi.csw.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA80317 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:51:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lambert@cswnet.com) Message-Id: <199908192151.QAA80317@troi.csw.net> From: lambert@cswnet.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:48:41 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: CVSupping un-needed ports X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can someone give me an example of how to make cvsup ignore a directory? For example ports/games I have tried to interpret the cvsup man page several different ways but have not found the correct incantation. Sorry for being dense. -- Scott Lambert lambert@cswnet.com Systems and Security Administrator CSW Net, Inc. ================================================================ Written: Thursday, August 19, 1999 - 04:48 PM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 14:56:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peloton.runet.edu (peloton.runet.edu [137.45.96.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD12915255 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:56:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@peloton.runet.edu) Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by peloton.runet.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03306; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:54:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brett@peloton.runet.edu) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:54:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Brett Taylor To: lambert@cswnet.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVSupping un-needed ports In-Reply-To: <199908192151.QAA80317@troi.csw.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 lambert@cswnet.com wrote: > Can someone give me an example of how to make cvsup ignore a directory? Here's my refuse file - your location of your CVSup data may vary: peloton: {7} pwd /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/ports-all peloton: {8} more refuse.cvs:. */chinese */japanese */korean */plan9 */russian */vietnamese */german */mbone Just use */games for your case. Brett ***************************************************** Brett Taylor brett@peloton.runet.edu * Dept of Chem and Physics * Curie 39A (540) 831-6147 * ***************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 15: 1: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from troi.csw.net (troi.csw.net [209.136.192.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28CC14D64 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:01:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lambert@cswnet.com) Received: from ssaos2.csw.net (ssaos2.csw.net [209.136.201.13]) by troi.csw.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA82809 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:01:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lambert@cswnet.com) Message-Id: <199908192201.RAA82809@troi.csw.net> From: lambert@cswnet.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:00:18 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: CVSupping un-needed ports X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In , on 08/19/99 at 05:54 PM, Brett Taylor said: >Hi, >On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 lambert@cswnet.com wrote: >> Can someone give me an example of how to make cvsup ignore a directory? >Here's my refuse file - your location of your CVSup data may vary: >peloton: {7} pwd >/usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/ports-all >peloton: {8} more refuse.cvs:. Thanks. I was missing the ":." at the end of the filename. -- Scott Lambert lambert@cswnet.com Systems and Security Administrator CSW Net, Inc. ================================================================ Written: Thursday, August 19, 1999 - 05:00 PM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 15:13:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt010nb9.san.rr.com (dt010nb9.san.rr.com [204.210.12.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9879A14D64 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:13:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by dt010nb9.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA59390; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:13:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:13:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug X-Sender: doug@dt010nb9.san.rr.com To: Rich Winkel Cc: aphor@ripco.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: distributing STABLE using Installworld over NFS In-Reply-To: <199908192143.QAA26285@chumbly.math.missouri.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, Rich Winkel wrote: > There's one "outside" dependency I know of. Some of the builds (such > as perl) create symbolic links in the obj dir which have absolute > rather than relative paths into the src directory. If you know specifics about this, please use send-pr to file them as bug reports. This is definitely a bug. Thanks, Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it does. -- Will Rogers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 17:17:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECBE01526D for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:17:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA22345; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:17:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199908200017.RAA22345@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: CVSupping un-needed ports In-Reply-To: from Brett Taylor at "Aug 19, 1999 05:54:55 pm" To: brett@peloton.runet.edu (Brett Taylor) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Cc: lambert@cswnet.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi, > > On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 lambert@cswnet.com wrote: > > > Can someone give me an example of how to make cvsup ignore a directory? > > Here's my refuse file - your location of your CVSup data may vary: > > peloton: {7} pwd > /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/ports-all > > peloton: {8} more refuse.cvs:. > */chinese > */japanese > */korean > */plan9 > */russian > */vietnamese > */german > */mbone Why make cvsup deal with the regex's above and waste the CPU cycles, it's already a fairly intense program: gndrsh:root {374}# pwd /A/ncvs/sup/ports-all gndrsh:root {375}# cat refuse ports/chinese ports/german ports/japanese ports/korean ports/russian ports/vietnamese gndrsh:root {376}# > > Just use */games for your case. or ports/games, or if this is the src/ tree instead the directory would be .../sup/src and the file is still refuse and the contents would be src/games -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 18:16:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E4C1519B for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:16:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA28275; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:15:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA20300; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:15:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908200115.SAA20300@vashon.polstra.com> To: lambert@cswnet.com Subject: Re: CVSupping un-needed ports In-Reply-To: <199908192151.QAA80317@troi.csw.net> References: <199908192151.QAA80317@troi.csw.net> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <199908192151.QAA80317@troi.csw.net>, wrote: > Can someone give me an example of how to make cvsup ignore a directory? > > For example ports/games > > I have tried to interpret the cvsup man page several different ways but > have not found the correct incantation. I saw that you got this answered already. If you can come up with better wording for the man page, I'd welcome a patch. The standard excuse ("But I don't know Modula-3 and it would be too hard to learn it!") doesn't work for man pages. :-) John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up." -- Nora Ephron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 19 18:36:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.notrecords.com (228-121.ppp.ripco.net [209.100.228.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CFA01518D for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:36:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aphor@ripco.NOSPAM.com) Received: from ripco.NOSPAM.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.notrecords.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA69554; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:36:08 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from aphor@ripco.NOSPAM.com) Message-ID: <37BCB107.A9B4C700@ripco.NOSPAM.com> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:36:07 -0500 From: Jeremy McMillan Reply-To: aphor@ripco.NOSPAM.com Organization: Loose.. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rich Winkel Cc: aphor@ripco.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: distributing STABLE using Installworld over NFS References: <199908192143.QAA26285@chumbly.math.missouri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My installworld over nfs died trying to find crtbegin.o in the obj tree even though find finds it /usr/obj/src/usr.src/tmp/usr/lib/crtbegin.o install fails after installing the first set of Rich Winkel wrote: > I think I mistyped the last not. What I meant was: > Where did the installworld die? Do you have any output? > > Thanks, > Rich and again: > > According to Jeremy McMillan: > > There *must* be make installworld dependancies outside of the /usr/src and > > /usr/obj filesystems. Pulling an installworld (or install for that matter) > > from a remote machine's /usr/src/ and /usr/obj is broken. Pushing an > > installworld to the target machine by mounting it's filesystem is working. > > That tells me there's something necessary but unavailable when you try to > > make installworld from the older box. > > There's one "outside" dependency I know of. Some of the builds (such > as perl) create symbolic links in the obj dir which have absolute > rather than relative paths into the src directory. If, on the build > server, /usr/src & /usr/obj are symbolic links to directories elsewhere > (which in my case is true because I wanted to do the build on a > softupdate'd disk and I'm not using softupdates on /usr) you'll run > into problems installing from an nfs client if the "elsewhere" doesn't > exist on the client. > In my case I had to create a symbolic link > /u2 -> usr > on the client, then everything went smoothly. In my case, the symbolic links on my install server are from the /src partition which has /src/usr.src and /src/usr.obj symlinked to /usr/src and /usr/obj respectively... By your suggestion, if I make a directory on my client /src containing symlinks /src/usr.src-->/usr/src and /src/usr.obj-->/usr/obj then make will be able to build from my client mounting -t nfs installserver:/src/usr.src /usr/src and installserver:/src/usr.obj /usr/obj? -- PLEASE NOTICE: THERE MAY BE NOSPAM IN THE HEADERS WHEN YOU HIT "REPLY"!!! Jeremy McMillan | Ask for PGP-2.6.2 or 5.0i Chicago FreeBSD Users Group http://pages.ripco.com/~aphor/ChiFUG.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 0:54:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C9B14DF9; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:50:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id KAA59489; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:49:43 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:49:29 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: obrien@FreeBSD.org, Mikhail Teterin Cc: committers@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: bison is being built with no optimization? Message-ID: <19990820104929.D44737@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org, Mikhail Teterin , committers@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199908191701.NAA19413@misha.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <199908191701.NAA19413@misha.cisco.com>; from Mikhail Teterin on Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 01:01:59PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 01:01:59PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > It seems, the bison is built with no optimization. Is that an intended > behaviour, or simply a missing plus sign its Makefile's > > CFLAGS= -DHAVE_CONFIG_H > > ? > I think, David missed a plus sign. -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 1:42:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5BEC1513E for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 01:42:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) id JAA29047; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:40:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:40:02 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: John Polstra Cc: lambert@cswnet.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVSupping un-needed ports Message-ID: <19990820094002.F20716@pavilion.net> References: <199908192151.QAA80317@troi.csw.net> <199908200115.SAA20300@vashon.polstra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199908200115.SAA20300@vashon.polstra.com>; from John Polstra on Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 06:15:53PM -0700 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, 24 The Old Steine, Brighton, BN1 1EL, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 06:15:53PM -0700, John Polstra wrote: > In article <199908192151.QAA80317@troi.csw.net>, wrote: > > Can someone give me an example of how to make cvsup ignore a directory? > > > > For example ports/games > > > > I have tried to interpret the cvsup man page several different ways but > > have not found the correct incantation. > > I saw that you got this answered already. If you can come up with > better wording for the man page, I'd welcome a patch. The standard > excuse ("But I don't know Modula-3 and it would be too hard to learn > it!") doesn't work for man pages. :-) > > John It'd be better perhaps if this could be specified in the cvsup config file. ? BTW John, As the guru on cvs related matters can you help me with this one? If I do a vendor branch import with 'cvs import', how do I get cvs to delete files that are no longer part of the branch? At the moment I'm manually diffing the checkedout branch and the original dist, and then 'cvs delete'ing the surplus files by hand. There's gotta be a better way :) Tnx, Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 2:13:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f114.hotmail.com [207.82.251.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B3A914FD8 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 02:12:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wind_prowler@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 83528 invoked by uid 0); 20 Aug 1999 09:12:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990820091221.83527.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.88.191.6 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 02:12:21 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.88.191.6] From: "Nawfal M. Rouyan" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: problem installing mysql on 3.2 STABLE Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:12:21 MYT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, I'm a newbie and have just upgraded my FreeBSD 3.1 Release to Stable. I have question to ask and I hope I post this to the right mailing list. I tried installing mysql on my 3.2 Stable but there was an error and I don't know what to do. I fetch the port from the ports-stable. This is the error output: opal#make install You may set NATIVE_THREADS (make NATIVE_THREADS=yes) to compile mysql with the native FreeBSD threads (libc_r). Warning: There are still some bugs in libc_r which prevent 'mysqladmin shutdown' from working properly and killing mysqld might not work. ===> Extracting for mysql-server-3.22.24 ===> Patching for mysql-server-3.22.24 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for mysql-server-3.22.24 ===> Configuring for mysql-server-3.22.24 ===> Building for mysql-server-3.22.24 make: cannot open Makefile. *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. opal# Could tell me what's the problem??? Thanks in advance.... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 3: 0: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84B714BF1 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 03:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: (from ohartman@localhost) by ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA51662; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:58:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:58:44 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199908200958.LAA51662@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de> From: "O. Hartmann" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: (fwd) login problems, please help Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -- forwarded message -- Path: news.uni-mainz.de!not-for-mail From: "O. Hartmann" Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: login problems, please help Date: 20 Aug 1999 09:56:14 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Lines: 53 Message-ID: <7pj8nu$o1l$1@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-19990624 ("Dawnrazor") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.2-STABLE (i386)) Xref: news.uni-mainz.de comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:109593 I have still problems with the configuration of logins on our FBSD box and it seems really confusing to me. Problem occured while creating a new group, moving a bunch of users into that group, changing via "vipw" gid in passwd-field, try to type "login username" on console or via telnet - gettting an error: Login incorrect occurs immediately after typing the loginname. Well, I thought this could be a problem with /etc/login.conf (this hint came from a helpful admin from Ontario). I suspended my own created file and used the original one I found in /usr/src/etc and added all the classes I created on my own to default (that should help). But this had no effect! Leaving the class-field empty did nothing. The only thing that works seems to delete the password - but this is a strange behaviour, accounts without password? My encryption system is the FBSD standard MD5, all libs are linked against libscryptxx.xxx, not against DES! I checked the group file - and I think many problems are realted to that! As I could read in the manpages, each user is in one primary group, and this primary group is identified by the group ID in passwd. So, if root is in group 0, I can leave wheel:*:0: empty? In manpage it is described like this, but the default group file has wheel:*:0:root as example. So: The users I put into another group are all in only one group! The GID has been changed by using vipw in passwd file. But nothing happened, they could not log in, they couldn't telnet to the server (as they could before!). My questions are a little bit confusing, think so, please let me begin with the libs: Where to find dedicated instructions and descriptions how PAM works and is used in FBSD (OS without description of how to authenticate by a used module is a pitty one!)? Has pam anything to do with login? How is it involved, especially when login by login command (checking passwd field???)? Another uncommended file is auth.conf. Where is sufficient information how auth.conf involves login? What kind of role playes login.conf when autheticating users/groups and by what tag is that involved? Well, what does it mean deleting password an getting loged in? I checked against other well playing accounts and login.access, but if there is an error, I get a password request and after that I get the message of a refused login. Checking the logging tells only that a LOGIN FAILURE ... REFUSED: username has occured, not more. Thanks in advance, O. Hartmann -- Gruss O. Hartmann ------------------------------------------------------------------- ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de Klimadatenserver des IPA, Universitaet Mainz -- end of forwarded message -- -- Gruss O. Hartmann ------------------------------------------------------------------- ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de Klimadatenserver des IPA, Universitaet Mainz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 4: 3:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BE814CF0 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 04:03:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00398 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:01:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:01:31 +0200 (CEST) From: "O. Hartmann" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: How to get through login ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, I posted and reported in the early past about my trouble and fiddling around brought myself to some points to make necessary or more unnecessary statements. Please look at /etc/auth.conf and it's stupid manpage. fiddling around with insufficient knowledge how about to use and configure this turns kerberos mesages on or off when su'ing to root. I think that are Kerberos IV messages, but we use (or tried in the past) Kerberos V, but switched this off! On the other hand: where are descrtions for the pam modules provided for FBSD? The manpage is more than insufficient ... and I don't want myself to search Linux AND UNIX literature to get the right information how to come along with PAM. I have to comment out, that I miss a page or description what hierarchy a login process takes. Well ... I have the following files: passwd, login.conf, auth.conf,pam.conf - assumed, I'm usinf the normal login procedure via standard telnet or login on console. Fiddling around with login.conf causes crashes, auth.conf causes problems, pam.conf causes problems and at no placce I can find informations. Why? Of course, FBSD is not a commercial system, but documentation is one of the most important steps to make a successor! I'm not a UNIX developer, I can not trace down all the source code to get the right information what the login procedure is doing - or in my case, what error is produced by which instance. Sorry ... Gruss O. Hartmann ------------------------------------------------------------------- ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de Klimadatenserver des IPA, Universitaet Mainz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 4:14:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de [132.176.7.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA34314C1E for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 04:14:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfh@jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de) Received: (from jfh@localhost) by jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA09709; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:12:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jfh) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: successful buildworld (even perl) after disabling softupdates Cc: Friedrich Heinrichmeyer From: Fritz Heinrichmeyer Date: 20 Aug 1999 13:12:37 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070095 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.95) XEmacs/21.1 (Big Bend) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG today i rebuilt my stable system after a fresh cvsup. Former builds always broke in the stage "building everything" on gnu/usr.bin/perl. The only thing i changed was the disabling of SOFTUPDATES. Can it be true that softupdates break make buildworld? -- Fritz Heinrichmeyer mailto:fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de FernUniversitaet Hagen, LG ES, 58084 Hagen (Germany) tel:+49 2331/987-1166 fax:987-355 http://ES-i2.fernuni-hagen.de/~jfh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 5:34:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kot.ne.mediaone.net (kot.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.15.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185F614E1A for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 05:34:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from guest.newton (guest.newton [10.10.0.3]) by kot.ne.mediaone.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA66433 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:34:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Mikhail Teterin X-Relay-IP: 10.10.0.3 Received: (from mi@localhost) by guest.newton (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA61730 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:33:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908201233.IAA61730@guest.newton> Subject: installworld : problem 1 (softupdates) To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:33:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7w hJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli"; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 05:39:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from guest.newton (guest.newton [10.10.0.3]) by kot.ne.mediaone.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA66447 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:39:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Mikhail Teterin X-Relay-IP: 10.10.0.3 Received: (from mi@localhost) by guest.newton (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA61761 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:38:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908201238.IAA61761@guest.newton> Subject: installworld : problem 2 (parallelism: -j 2/3/4) To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:38:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7w hJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" bin/rcp install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 4555 -fschg rcp /bin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 rcp.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> bin/rm install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 rm /bin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 rm.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> bin/rmdir install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 rmdir /bin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 rmdir.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> bin/sh install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 sh /bin Could not execute shell *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error I guess, everything shoud wait for sh (and some others) to install through the dependency mechanisms. This works fine on all of my single CPU machines -- the progrems, actually, do get installed one by one there. -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 5:45: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f82.hotmail.com [207.82.250.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E398215366 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 05:45:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wind_prowler@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 8077 invoked by uid 0); 20 Aug 1999 12:43:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990820124344.8076.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 203.106.61.44 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 05:43:44 PDT X-Originating-IP: [203.106.61.44] From: "Nawfal M. Rouyan" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problem installing MySQL Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:43:44 MYT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I did installed FreeBSD 3.2 upgrade kit but still the problem occurs... any other suggestions? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 6: 3:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43FF614BE5 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 06:03:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11HoIl-0006eY-00; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:01:47 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Mikhail Teterin Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installworld : problem 1 (softupdates) In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:33:35 -0400." <199908201233.IAA61730@guest.newton> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:01:47 +0200 Message-ID: <25577.935154107@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:33:35 -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > The only way I can have installworld finish is to run (in another > window; I use tcsh): Or you could turn softupdates off for your root partition. Since you say it's small, what would you lose? Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 6:29:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from misha.cisco.com (misha.cisco.com [171.69.206.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9198E14BE5 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 06:29:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@misha.cisco.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA01850; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:27:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) Message-Id: <199908201327.JAA01850@misha.cisco.com> Subject: Re: installworld : problem 1 (softupdates) In-Reply-To: <25577.935154107@axl.noc.iafrica.com> from Sheldon Hearn at "Aug 20, 1999 03:01:47 pm" To: Sheldon Hearn Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:27:13 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Mikhail Teterin , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com From: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL60 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sheldon Hearn once wrote: > Or you could turn softupdates off for your root partition. Since you > say it's small, what would you lose? Thanks, but is not this a genuine problem worth addressing? -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 6:35:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA6F14E51 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 06:34:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11HomY-0006kS-00; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:32:34 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: mi@aldan.algebra.com Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installworld : problem 1 (softupdates) In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:27:13 -0400." <199908201327.JAA01850@misha.cisco.com> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:32:33 +0200 Message-ID: <25942.935155953@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:27:13 -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Thanks, but is not this a genuine problem worth addressing? It's a genuine problem. I don't think it's worth addressing, though. I think that softupdates documentation should mention the more general problem of space being allocated more quickly than it's freed. But that demands softupdates documentation. ;-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 9: 3:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90CB153BA for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:02:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id RAA12418; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:56:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA29421; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:48:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199908201448.QAA29421@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: How to get through login ... In-Reply-To: from "O. Hartmann" at "Aug 20, 1999 1: 1:31 pm" To: ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (O. Hartmann) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:48:29 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As O. Hartmann wrote ... > Of course, FBSD is not a commercial system, but documentation is one of > the most important steps to make a successor! I'm not a UNIX developer, > I can not trace down all the source code to get the right information what > the login procedure is doing - or in my case, what error is produced by which > instance. Sorry ... Documentation is definitely a weak point in FreeBSD. If you can't get things working while asking the various mailing lists and cannot dig into the source code I'm afraid FreeBSD might not be a good choice for your particular situation. A commercial Unix might be a better choice. Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 11:39:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bsd.mbp.ee (bsd.mbp.ee [194.204.12.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4231524E; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:39:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mauri@aripaev.ee) Received: from lant.mbp.ee (lant.mbp.ee [194.204.12.41]) by bsd.mbp.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA92772; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:38:14 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from mauri@aripaev.ee) Received: by lant.mbp.ee with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:37:41 +0300 Message-ID: <554419C71610D211B3F808003636280213B120@lant.mbp.ee> From: Lauri Laupmaa To: "'stable@freebsd.org'" , "'hackers@freebsd.org'" Subject: setting up -STABLE for hack contest Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:37:40 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-4" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi As the subject says i'm waiting for suggestions how to make a stable box very secure :) I would like to know how to change login screen and make it difficult to guess what operating system is running, etc. TIA _____ Lauri To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 11:47:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.ham.muohio.edu (dragon.ham.muohio.edu [134.53.141.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A452615258; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:47:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from howardjp@wam.umd.edu) Received: from localhost (howardjp@localhost) by dragon.ham.muohio.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09798; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:07:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dragon.ham.muohio.edu: howardjp owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:07:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Jamie Howard X-Sender: howardjp@dragon.ham.muohio.edu To: Lauri Laupmaa Cc: "'stable@freebsd.org'" , "'hackers@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: setting up -STABLE for hack contest In-Reply-To: <554419C71610D211B3F808003636280213B120@lant.mbp.ee> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Lauri Laupmaa wrote: > I would like to know how to change login screen and make it difficult to > guess what operating system is running, etc. Change the "default" entry in /etc/gettytab. On a 3.2-STABLEsustem (from the 19990812 snapshot), the default line looks like: default:\ :cb:ce:ck:lc:fd#1000:im=\r\n%s/%m (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\n:sp#1200: You can change it to something like this for fun: default:\ :cb:ce:ck:lc:fd#1000:im=\r\nOpenVMS\r\n\r\n:sp#1200: It is also trivial to hack login(1) to say "Username:" to instead of "login:". As you might have guessed, I did this to a FreeBSD 3.0 system about nine months ago. Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 12:15: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9F3153C1 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:14:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA17083; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:12:56 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:12:56 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Mikhail Teterin Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installworld : problem 2 (parallelism: -j 2/3/4) Message-ID: <19990820141256.F2131@futuresouth.com> References: <199908201238.IAA61761@guest.newton> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <199908201238.IAA61761@guest.newton>; from Mikhail Teterin on Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 08:38:32AM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 08:38:32AM -0400, a little birdie told me that Mikhail Teterin remarked > > On my dual CPU system installworld fails when run with -j flag. > Buildworld is fine with `-j 8', but installworld does not handle even > `-j 2'. Here is the tail of the -j2 run: Out of morbid curiosity, why exactly do you run -j'd installworlds? Installworld is practically 100% diskbound, I'd expect it to run SLOWER when it's parallelizing and seeking back and forth between multiple installs at once. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@futuresouth.com Specializing in FreeBSD | http://www.over-yonder.net/ FutureSouth Communications | ISPHelp ISP Consulting "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 12:21: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B10714CA1 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:21:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from lanczos.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 20 Aug 1999 20:18:29 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:18:27 +0100 From: David Malone To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vm_fault: pager read error on NFS filesystems. Message-ID: <19990820201827.A22891@lanczos.maths.tcd.ie> References: <199908171256.aa44534@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <199908171256.aa44534@salmon.maths.tcd.ie>; from David Malone on Tue, Aug 17, 1999 at 12:56:17PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Aug 17, 1999 at 12:56:17PM +0100, David Malone wrote: > When a user deletes/changes a running executable over NFS it results > in lots of "vm_fault: pager read error" messages. However, the > program seems to keep running indefinitely, and logging messages. > Someone running a parrallel program recompiled and added 184888 > lines to /var/log/messages in a little over an hour. Following up my own message on this. On two machines on which we had a "vm_fault: pager read error" problem init ended up stuck in state vmopar while reaping one of the processes! Eventually the machine became overwhelemed by Zombies (Sounds very "Night of the Living Dead"), and we had to reboot. If it happens again I'll try to get a dump. I do have the output of ps for a stuck machine if anyone wants to see it, but basically a process whose image was changed overs NFS is the lowest numbered zombie and there are loads of processes waiting for init to reap them. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 12:22: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D052F14CA1 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:22:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00613 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:22:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:22:07 +0200 (CEST) From: "O. Hartmann" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: manpages vs. reality Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, I posted a lot about this problem ... Manpages for /etc/group says, that each user is uniquely defined in a group by adding its group number via vipw in master.passwd. But this is not true, you must put each user separately into the groupmember field of the group in /etc/group. Why? Can anybody explain, why this is fact but the manpages are not pointing to that? Gruss O. Hartmann ------------------------------------------------------------------- ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de Klimadatenserver des IPA, Universitaet Mainz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 12:39:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from revolution.3-cities.com (revolution.3-cities.com [204.203.224.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB6C156C7 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:39:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn2174.bossig.com [208.26.242.174]) by revolution.3-cities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28036; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37BDAEF0.F0E9C5F6@3-cities.com> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:39:28 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Matthew D. Fuller" Cc: Mikhail Teterin , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installworld : problem 2 (parallelism: -j 2/3/4) References: <199908201238.IAA61761@guest.newton> <19990820141256.F2131@futuresouth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Matthew D. Fuller" wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 08:38:32AM -0400, a little birdie told me > that Mikhail Teterin remarked > > > > On my dual CPU system installworld fails when run with -j flag. > > Buildworld is fine with `-j 8', but installworld does not handle even > > `-j 2'. Here is the tail of the -j2 run: > > Out of morbid curiosity, why exactly do you run -j'd installworlds? > Installworld is practically 100% diskbound, I'd expect it to run SLOWER > when it's parallelizing and seeking back and forth between multiple > installs at once. If it were diskbound, I would have the same times on the P166 and the Celeron 433. The actual difference in BW times on the same HD was 4.5 times faster on the Celeron. It didn't help to go to single user mode on the Celeron and I have done things like fire off a BW from an x-window. Setiathome used 51% of the machine and BW used the other 49%. Kent > > -- > Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net > Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@futuresouth.com > Specializing in FreeBSD | http://www.over-yonder.net/ > FutureSouth Communications | ISPHelp ISP Consulting > > "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I > haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 13:12:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [209.157.82.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DCBD614C12 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:12:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 10206 invoked by uid 100); 20 Aug 1999 20:11:19 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Aug 1999 20:11:19 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:11:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Meyer To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: manpages vs. reality In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, O. Hartmann wrote: :->Well, I posted a lot about this problem ... :-> :->Manpages for /etc/group says, that each user is uniquely defined in a :->group by adding its group number via vipw in master.passwd. But this is not :->true, you must put each user separately into the groupmember field of :->the group in /etc/group. Why? Can anybody explain, why this is fact but :->the manpages are not pointing to that? My copy of the /etc/group man page says: A user is automatically in a group if that group was speci- fied in their /etc/passwd entry and does not need to be added to that group in the /etc/group file. I'm not sure how that corresponds with what you said. In any case, there are two ways someone can get into a group: that group number can be the one listed for that user in the group field of the /etc/password file, *or* they can be listed as being in that group in /etc/group. The page doesn't say anything about vipw; but using that (or other tools) to change the group in /etc/passwd isn't going to change things in /etc/group. This happens at login time; if you change any of them, you have to get a new login session to see the changes. The manual page might need to be clearer, but I'm not sure how to do that. ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:00:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shellis@fda.net) Received: from fda.net (ts35p1.fda.net [216.98.147.114]) by ns2.fda.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA22363 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:49:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37BDC1F4.CD29100F@fda.net> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:00:37 -0700 From: s Reply-To: shellis@fda.net Organization: t X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: interfacing pci modems...help!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Subject: pci modem mystery Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:49:29 -0700 From: William Schmidt To: Any kind soul who can help Question: Can freebsd run a pci modem like a zoom 2925, and how does one configure freebsd to run it? On start up bsd 2.2.8 probes the pci cards and sees the card with vendor ID 11c1, device ID 0442 ,irq, and that it is a com device, but no driver is supported.We also use 3.2. Thanks , William Schmidt Steve Ellis shellis@fda.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 14:11: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from revolution.3-cities.com (revolution.3-cities.com [204.203.224.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E81E415A8F for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:11:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn2174.bossig.com [208.26.242.174]) by revolution.3-cities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10461; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37BDC45E.E573A020@3-cities.com> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:10:54 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: shellis@fda.net Cc: FreeBSD-Stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: interfacing pci modems...help!! References: <37BDC1F4.CD29100F@fda.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG s wrote: > > Subject: pci modem mystery > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:49:29 -0700 > From: William Schmidt > To: Any kind soul who can help > > Question: Can freebsd run a pci modem like a zoom 2925, and how does one > > configure freebsd to run it? On start up bsd 2.2.8 probes the pci > cards and sees the card with vendor ID 11c1, device ID 0442 ,irq, and > that it is a com device, but no driver is supported.We also use 3.2. You need to visit http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html, which is a Linux site but they have modems type to real modems or WinModems. Most of the PCI's are WinModems and require host processing built into the OS. They don't work on the *nix's. You can do a lookup by your modem number. Kent > > Thanks , > William Schmidt > Steve Ellis > shellis@fda.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 14:23:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from buffy.tpgi.com.au (buffy.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A03215B85 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:23:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eirvine@tpgi.com.au) Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by buffy.tpgi.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA23951; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 07:23:25 +1000 Received: from tar-56k-220.tpgi.com.au(203.26.26.220), claiming to be "tpgi.com.au" via SMTP by buffy.tpgi.com.au, id smtpda23878; Sat Aug 21 07:23:06 1999 Message-ID: <37BDC72C.1113A6CA@tpgi.com.au> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 07:22:52 +1000 From: eirvine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Nawfal M. Rouyan" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem installing MySQL References: <19990820124344.8076.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. I had a few problems yesterday installing the Mysql322-server port on 3.2 stable. It would install OK, but the mysql client kept aborting, complining that it couldn't open a socket called "/tmp/mysql.sock". Here's what I did: I rebuild world, pkg_del'd all the Mysql stuff I had around, and then recompiled Mysql with support for Native threads (the switch is in the Makefile). Then it worked!. Eddie "Nawfal M. Rouyan" wrote: > > I did installed FreeBSD 3.2 upgrade kit but still the problem occurs... > any other suggestions? > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 14:56:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED3814E84 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:56:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA62548; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:54:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990820145441.A62433@nuxi.com> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:54:41 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: mi@aldan.algebra.com, Sheldon Hearn Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installworld : problem 1 (softupdates) Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <25577.935154107@axl.noc.iafrica.com> <199908201327.JAA01850@misha.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199908201327.JAA01850@misha.cisco.com>; from Mikhail Teterin on Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 09:27:13AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Or you could turn softupdates off for your root partition. Since you > > say it's small, what would you lose? > > Thanks, but is not this a genuine problem worth addressing? Kirk McKusick knows the problem and is looking for an acceptable solution. Softupdates doesn't buy you anything on reads -- just writes. So unless you have it turned on for / because /tmp is on /, you aren't getting anything out of softupdates than frustration. With today's massively cheap disks, many do not feel it is such a big deal -- ie, have enough diskspace that you don't get that near full. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 15: 2: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1513915AD2 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:01:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA02127; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:06:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:06:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Alfred Perlstein To: "O. Hartmann" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: manpages vs. reality In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, O. Hartmann wrote: > Well, I posted a lot about this problem ... > > Manpages for /etc/group says, that each user is uniquely defined in a > group by adding its group number via vipw in master.passwd. But this is not > true, you must put each user separately into the groupmember field of > the group in /etc/group. Why? Can anybody explain, why this is fact but > the manpages are not pointing to that? please state what version of the manpage you are talking about. my manpage for group doesn't have this problem. please quote the reference. thank you, -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@rush.net|alfred@freebsd.org] Wintelcom systems administrator and programmer - http://www.wintelcom.net/ [bright@wintelcom.net] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 15: 3: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973F514E28 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:03:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id XAA28515; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:52:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04099; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:54:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199908202054.WAA04099@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: manpages vs. reality In-Reply-To: from "O. Hartmann" at "Aug 20, 1999 9:22: 7 pm" To: ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (O. Hartmann) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:54:22 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As O. Hartmann wrote ... > Well, I posted a lot about this problem ... > > Manpages for /etc/group says, that each user is uniquely defined in a > group by adding its group number via vipw in master.passwd. But this is not > true, you must put each user separately into the groupmember field of > the group in /etc/group. Why? Can anybody explain, why this is fact but > the manpages are not pointing to that? Not having checked any of this: probably because the man pages have not been updated.. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 15:32:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5295114DDF for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:32:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 20 Aug 1999 23:32:36 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:32:35 +0100 From: David Malone To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vm_fault: pager read error on NFS filesystems. Message-ID: <19990820233235.A21737@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <199908171256.aa44534@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> <19990820201827.A22891@lanczos.maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <19990820201827.A22891@lanczos.maths.tcd.ie>; from David Malone on Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 08:18:27PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 08:18:27PM +0100, David Malone wrote: Some experimentation produced the following results. I created an executable and then either truncated or removed it on the NFS server while is was running. If you catch the signal you are sent you get a different effect (equivelent of a double fault I guess). 3.2-STABLE, as of about 3 weeks ago. ==================================== truncate Panic (it was trying to dump a core for the process). remove vm_pager error and sigfault. catch sig + remove vm_pager error loop - may be killed by kill -9. 4.0-CURRENT, also about 3 weeks ago. ==================================== truncate process stuck in vompar while handling the pagefault. remove vm_pager error and sigfault. catch sig + remove vm_pager error loop - process can't be killed. I tried quickly on a Redhat 6 box, catching the signal and changeing the execuatble results in the process spinning and also being unkillable. I still haven't managed to get init stuck in vmopar - it isn't entirely clear to me why it would be interested in the processes text at all. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 16:31:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from misha.cisco.com (misha.cisco.com [171.69.206.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB7B1565E for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:31:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@misha.cisco.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA00830 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 19:30:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) Message-Id: <199908202330.TAA00830@misha.cisco.com> Subject: Re: installworld : problem 2 (parallelism: -j 2/3/4) In-Reply-To: <19990820141256.F2131@futuresouth.com> from "Matthew D. Fuller" at "Aug 20, 1999 02:12:56 pm" To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 19:30:38 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com From: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL60 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew D. Fuller once wrote: > > On my dual CPU system installworld fails when run with -j flag. > > Buildworld is fine with `-j 8', but installworld does not handle > > even `-j 2'. Here is the tail of the -j2 run: > Out of morbid curiosity, why exactly do you run -j'd installworlds? > Installworld is practically 100% diskbound, I'd expect it to run > SLOWER when it's parallelizing and seeking back and forth between > multiple installs at once. I did not run actual comparisions, but it would seem, there is some CPU work during installworld, especially with the -C flag. In any case, I usually do ``make world'' and the -j flag applies to both -- build and install. -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 16:51:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wopr.caltech.edu (wopr.caltech.edu [131.215.240.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B9414E81 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:51:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mph@wopr.caltech.edu) Received: (from mph@localhost) by wopr.caltech.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA70531; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:51:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mph) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:51:03 -0700 From: Matthew Hunt To: Mikhail Teterin Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installworld : problem 2 (parallelism: -j 2/3/4) Message-ID: <19990820165103.A70433@wopr.caltech.edu> References: <19990820141256.F2131@futuresouth.com> <199908202330.TAA00830@misha.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199908202330.TAA00830@misha.cisco.com>; from Mikhail Teterin on Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 07:30:38PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 07:30:38PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > I did not run actual comparisions, but it would seem, there is some CPU > work during installworld, especially with the -C flag. In any case, I > usually do ``make world'' and the -j flag applies to both -- build and > install. To do just about anything in our source tree or ports collection, make(1) has to parse a lot of Makefile lines. On my slow CPU with decent I/O, "make installworld" and "make clean" are quite CPU-bound. -- Matthew Hunt * Stay close to the Vorlon. http://www.pobox.com/~mph/ * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 20:29: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trooper.velocet.ca (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B9B15969 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:28:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@trooper.velocet.ca) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by trooper.velocet.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA54818; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:28:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14270.7396.249467.793456@trooper.velocet.ca> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:28:36 -0400 (EDT) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: buildworld choking on ipfw... X-Mailer: VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone seen (or fixed) the following in a recent buildworld: ===> sbin/ipfw cc -O -pipe -Wall -c /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c gzip -cn /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.8 > ipfw.8.gz /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c: In function `show_ipfw': /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c:248: `IP_FW_F_RND_MATCH' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c:248: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c:248: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c: In function `add': /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c:1059: `IP_FW_F_RND_MATCH' undeclared (first use this function) *** Error code 1 1 error Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 20 22:50:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kot.ne.mediaone.net (kot.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.15.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA52A14D11 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:50:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from guest.newton (guest.newton [10.10.0.3]) by kot.ne.mediaone.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA70893 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 01:49:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Mikhail Teterin X-Relay-IP: 10.10.0.3 Received: (from mi@localhost) by guest.newton (8.9.3/8.9.1) id BAA65311 for stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 01:48:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908210548.BAA65311@guest.newton> Subject: no optimizations (CFLAGS overwritten?) To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 01:48:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7w hJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli"; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:12:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id KAA66026; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:08:58 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:08:58 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: David Gilbert Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld choking on ipfw... Message-ID: <19990821100858.B59016@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: David Gilbert , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <14270.7396.249467.793456@trooper.velocet.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <14270.7396.249467.793456@trooper.velocet.ca>; from David Gilbert on Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 11:28:36PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 11:28:36PM -0400, David Gilbert wrote: > Has anyone seen (or fixed) the following in a recent buildworld: > > ===> sbin/ipfw > cc -O -pipe -Wall -c /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c > gzip -cn /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.8 > ipfw.8.gz > /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c: In function `show_ipfw': > /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c:248: `IP_FW_F_RND_MATCH' undeclared (first > use this function) > /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c:248: (Each undeclared identifier is reported > only once > /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c:248: for each function it appears in.) > /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c: In function `add': > /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c:1059: `IP_FW_F_RND_MATCH' undeclared (first > use this function) > *** Error code 1 > 1 error > > Dave. Make sure you have the following files/revisions: /usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_fw.c: $Id: ip_fw.c,v 1.103.2.7 1999/08/16 19:16:25 luigi Exp $ /usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_fw.h: $Id: ip_fw.h,v 1.36.2.1 1999/08/16 17:29:51 luigi Exp $ /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.8: $Id: ipfw.8,v 1.47.2.6 1999/08/16 17:29:52 luigi Exp $ /usr/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c: $Id: ipfw.c,v 1.64.2.7 1999/08/16 17:29:53 luigi Exp $ -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 0:20:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D747715373 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:20:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (iras-2-91.ucdavis.edu [169.237.16.219]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA01902 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:20:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id AAA57535 for stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:20:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:20:34 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: **HEADS UP** libreadline version number reverted Message-ID: <19990821002034.A57519@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 19-Aug-1999 I bumped the shared library major version number from "3" to "4" when I MFC'ed libreadline-4.0. It has been deemed that the interface change between readline-2.2 and readline-4.0 was not suffient to warrant the version number bump. Thus I have reverted it back to "3". Those that either installed the 19990819 or 19990820 SNAPSHOT, or did a ``CVSup'' and ``make world'' in the past two days will need to perform the below immediately before their next ``make world'': cd /usr/lib ls -l libreadline.so.4 (if you have /usr/lib/libreadline.so.4) mv libreadline.so.4 libreadline.so.3 rm -f libreadline.so ln -s libreadline.so.3 libreadline.so -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 0:28: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from newton.math.uic.edu (dns.math.uic.edu [131.193.178.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C034715ABE for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:28:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vladimir@math.uic.edu) Received: (qmail 2857 invoked from network); 21 Aug 1999 07:26:29 -0000 Received: from galois.math.uic.edu (HELO math.uic.edu) (131.193.178.114) by newton.math.uic.edu with SMTP; 21 Aug 1999 07:26:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 22301 invoked by uid 31415); 21 Aug 1999 07:26:28 -0000 Date: 21 Aug 1999 07:26:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990821072628.22300.qmail@math.uic.edu> From: vladimir@math.uic.edu To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: NFS problems Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear -stable Users, I would greatly appreciate any help with the following problem. I have a FreeBSD NFS server (3.2-STABLE, built on Aug 3), and a Solaris 2.7 client. I run into problems when trying to use NFSv3 mounts on the client. Trying to remove files from the mounted partition (on the nfs client) results in multiple errors, for example: # rm -r /home/2/vladimir rm: Unable to remove directory /home/2/vladimir/CVS/blowup/c: File exists rm: Unable to remove directory /home/2/vladimir/CVS/blowup: File exists rm: Unable to remove directory /home/2/vladimir/CVS/useradd: File exists I have tried using tcp and udp mount options with the same result. NFSv2 works fine. Solaris client has the latest patches applied. I would very much appreciate any comments on that. Also, the client logs: Aug 21 02:20:59 newton.math.uic.edu statd[163]: statd: cannot talk to statd at galileo, RPC: Procedure unavailable(10) Aug 21 02:20:59 newton.math.uic.edu statd[163]: statd: cannot talk to statd at galileo, RPC: Procedure unavailable(10) rpc.statd is running on the server, rpcinfo -p output: # rpcinfo -p galileo program vers proto port service 100000 2 tcp 111 rpcbind 100000 2 udp 111 rpcbind 100007 2 udp 1022 ypbind 100007 2 tcp 1023 ypbind 100005 3 udp 1018 mountd 100005 3 tcp 1022 mountd 100005 1 udp 1018 mountd 100005 1 tcp 1022 mountd 100003 2 udp 2049 nfs 100003 3 udp 2049 nfs 100003 2 tcp 2049 nfs 100003 3 tcp 2049 nfs 100021 1 udp 1005 nlockmgr 100021 3 udp 1005 nlockmgr 100021 1 tcp 1021 nlockmgr 100021 3 tcp 1021 nlockmgr 100024 1 udp 999 status 100024 1 tcp 1020 status 100011 1 udp 1028 rquotad This is just a minor annoyance, but if someone could provide a solution, I will be very grateful. Thank you! Vladimir vladimir@math.uic.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 1:31:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at [128.130.111.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A539F14D11; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 01:31:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at) Received: from alphard (alphard [128.130.111.37]) by vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA00440; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:27:46 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:27:45 +0200 (MET DST) From: Gerald Pfeifer To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Known MMAP() race conditions ... ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > Three weeks ago, I, and a few other INN administrators, posted about > FreeBSD -STABLE's inability to run the newest INN code, due to MMAP() race > conditions...essentially, after X hours of run time, on a heavily loaded > INN server, the whole thing locks up solid. > > At that time, Matt pop'd up and stated that he knew of *at least* 6 MMAP() > related race conditions that he was hoping to be able to get fixed "within > a week"...that would have been two weeks ago. Maybe I missed that (I'm only on -stable, not -current), but what's the current situation concerning this issue? Can I dare running the newest INN on -STABLE / -CURRENT or do you still experience these problems? Gerald -- Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 3: 7:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from urmel.mfh-iserlohn.de (urmel.mfh-iserlohn.de [193.174.68.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB05614EBE for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 03:07:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de) Received: from fritz (is15.dialin.mfh-iserlohn.de [193.174.70.235]) by urmel.mfh-iserlohn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA15383 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:07:40 +0200 Message-ID: <000801beebab$ac947ce0$0101a8c0@hemer.de> From: "Fritz Heinrichmeyer" To: References: Subject: "successful" built libc_r.so.3 broke python-1.5.2 Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 08:13:43 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The python-1.5.2 test cases and unfortunately the fine sketch-0.6.1 program (can edit ai-files and the famous tiger.ps) dump core in the select-routine of my selfcompiled lbc_r.so.3. The one i had from August 8. (not compiled myself) works ok. The rest of my selfbuilt system seems to work fine. There is no deeper reason for using ms-outlook at the moment. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 3:10:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fdy2.demon.co.uk (fdy2.demon.co.uk [194.222.102.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A9614EBE for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 03:10:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjs@fdy2.demon.co.uk) Received: (from rjs@localhost) by fdy2.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA00636; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:13:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rjs) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:13:31 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199908192213.XAA00636@fdy2.demon.co.uk> From: Robert Swindells To: wghicks@bellsouth.net Cc: sean@dreamfire.net, stable@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199908192000.QAA11324@bellsouth.net> (message from W Gerald Hicks on Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:00:42 -0400) Subject: Re: AMD PCnet 10/100 PCI usability Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > >I have a PCnet 10/100 adapter built onto my motherboard (PC Server 325), > > >and FreeBSD picks it up as "lnc1." The damned thing got 3-4k/sec > > >transfers at the most. It appeared to not be negotiating with the hub > > >correctly. > > Yup, they can fail to autonegotiate. >I've been having problems with an older Tulip board on a non-standard >system. It first appeared to be an autonegotiation problem but on >closer inspection it was revealed that my buggy PCI BIOS isn't DTRT >and interrupts aren't getting set up properly. No interrupts, no >autoselect... It is a known problem with the AMD chips, it can even happen using their reference boards. Robert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 6:41:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pcnet1.pcnet.com (pcnet1.pcnet.com [204.213.232.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B5114D06 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 06:41:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eischen@vigrid.com) Received: (from eischen@localhost) by pcnet1.pcnet.com (8.8.7/PCNet) id JAA07382; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:40:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:40:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Eischen Message-Id: <199908211340.JAA07382@pcnet1.pcnet.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de Subject: Re: "successful" built libc_r.so.3 broke python-1.5.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The python-1.5.2 test cases and unfortunately the fine sketch-0.6.1 program > (can edit ai-files and the famous tiger.ps) dump core > in the select-routine of my selfcompiled lbc_r.so.3. The one i had from > August 8. (not compiled myself) works ok. The > rest of my selfbuilt system seems to work fine. There is no deeper reason > for using ms-outlook at the moment. This was just fixed yesterday (8/20/1999). CVSup and try again. Dan Eischen eischen@vigrid.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 6:53:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kot.ne.mediaone.net (kot.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.15.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D6C14D06; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 06:53:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from guest.newton (guest.newton [10.10.0.3]) by kot.ne.mediaone.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA75815; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:53:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Mikhail Teterin X-Relay-IP: 10.10.0.3 Received: (from mi@localhost) by guest.newton (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA77803; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:52:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908211352.JAA77803@guest.newton> Subject: kernel threads, cc -kthread To: stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:52:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7w hJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" for -stable? The cc's man-page says: -kthread Link a kernel-threaded process against libpthread in addition to libc. Objects linked into kernel- threaded processes should be compiled with -D_THREAD_SAFE. But the practice yields: mi@misha:~/tmp (113) cc -kthread t.c /usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot open -lpthread: No such file or directory Am I right assuming, kernel-threads may, actually, run in parallel on a multi-CPU machine, while the -pthread ones will not? Thanks! -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 7:18:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kot.ne.mediaone.net (kot.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.15.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743D815109; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 07:18:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from guest.newton (guest.newton [10.10.0.3]) by kot.ne.mediaone.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA76209; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:16:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Mikhail Teterin X-Relay-IP: 10.10.0.3 Received: (from mi@localhost) by guest.newton (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA89036; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:15:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908211415.KAA89036@guest.newton> Subject: sketch seg-faults at start-up -- confirmation To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:15:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7w hJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" Message-Id: <199908211443.KAA13641@pcnet1.pcnet.com> To: mi@aldan.algebra.com, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sketch seg-faults at start-up -- confirmation Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Sketch (built by /usr/ports/graphics/sketch) would not start up for me > either: > > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > 0x28157041 in select () from /usr/lib/libc_r.so.3 > (gdb) where > #0 0x28157041 in select () from /usr/lib/libc_r.so.3 Someone just committed a fix for select() with null timeval in libc_r: ---------------------------- revision 1.11 date: 1999/08/20 21:06:20; author: alfred; state: Exp; lines: +5 -5 move sanity check of timeval struct so as not to segfault when passed a null pointer. Pointed out by: Thomas Gellekum Reviewed by: eivind It was merged into -stable roughly 1 hour later. Dan Eischen eischen@vigrid.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 7:46:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.clientlogic.com (ns.clientlogic.com [207.51.66.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6332414F37 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 07:46:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ChrisMic@clientlogic.com) Received: by site0s1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:45:01 -0400 Message-ID: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105BBA@site2s1> From: Christopher Michaels To: 'Fritz Heinrichmeyer' , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: successful buildworld (even perl) after disabling softupdates Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:47:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I suppose that is possible. But for the record, I did a buildworld 3 days ago, on a soft-updates enabled partition and it worked fine. -Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Fritz Heinrichmeyer [SMTP:fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de] > Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 7:13 AM > To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Cc: Friedrich Heinrichmeyer > Subject: successful buildworld (even perl) after disabling > softupdates > > > today i rebuilt my stable system after a fresh cvsup. Former builds > always broke in the stage "building everything" on gnu/usr.bin/perl. > > The only thing i changed was the disabling of SOFTUPDATES. > > Can it be true that softupdates break make buildworld? > > -- > Fritz Heinrichmeyer mailto:fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de > FernUniversitaet Hagen, LG ES, 58084 Hagen (Germany) > tel:+49 2331/987-1166 fax:987-355 http://ES-i2.fernuni-hagen.de/~jfh > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 7:47:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.clientlogic.com (ns.clientlogic.com [207.51.66.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E05E150D5 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 07:47:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ChrisMic@clientlogic.com) Received: by site0s1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:45:31 -0400 Message-ID: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105BBB@site2s1> From: Christopher Michaels To: 'Lauri Laupmaa' , "'stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: setting up -STABLE for hack contest Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:47:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Take a look here. http://www.freebsd.org/~jkb/howto.html -Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Lauri Laupmaa [SMTP:mauri@aripaev.ee] > Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 2:38 PM > To: 'stable@freebsd.org'; 'hackers@freebsd.org' > Subject: setting up -STABLE for hack contest > > Hi > > As the subject says i'm waiting for suggestions how to make a stable box > very secure :) > > I would like to know how to change login screen and make it difficult to > guess what operating system is running, etc. > > TIA > _____ > Lauri > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 8: 0:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from misha.cisco.com (misha.cisco.com [171.69.206.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0D514D14 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 08:00:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@misha.cisco.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA06186 for stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:59:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) Message-Id: <199908211459.KAA06186@misha.cisco.com> Subject: Re: sketch seg-faults at start-up -- confirmation In-Reply-To: <199908211443.KAA13641@pcnet1.pcnet.com> from Daniel Eischen at "Aug 21, 1999 10:43:36 am" To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:59:50 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com From: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL60 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Daniel Eischen once wrote: > Someone just committed a fix for select() with null timeval in libc_r: > > ---------------------------- > revision 1.11 > date: 1999/08/20 21:06:20; author: alfred; state: Exp; lines: +5 -5 > move sanity check of timeval struct so as not to segfault when passed > a null pointer. > > Pointed out by: Thomas Gellekum > Reviewed by: eivind > > It was merged into -stable roughly 1 hour later. Not yet :(, I guess.... cvsup -z -g /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile -P m -h cvsup.freebsd.org Connected to cvsup.freebsd.org Updating collection src-all/cvs Edit src/gnu/lib/libreadline/Makefile.inc Edit src/gnu/usr.bin/man/manpath/Makefile Edit src/gnu/usr.bin/man/manpath/manpath.c Edit src/gnu/usr.bin/man/manpath/manpath.config Edit src/gnu/usr.bin/man/manpath/manpath.h Edit src/gnu/usr.bin/man/manpath/manpath.man Edit src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/psm.4 Edit src/sys/alpha/include/mouse.h Edit src/sys/i386/include/mouse.h Edit src/sys/i386/isa/psm.c Edit src/sys/isa/psm.c Edit src/usr.sbin/moused/moused.8 Edit src/usr.sbin/moused/moused.c Finished successfully -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 9: 4:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from misha.cisco.com (misha.cisco.com [171.69.206.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC3114F10; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:04:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@misha.cisco.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA06275; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:02:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) Message-Id: <199908211602.MAA06275@misha.cisco.com> Subject: Re: setting up -STABLE for hack contest In-Reply-To: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105BBB@site2s1> from Christopher Michaels at "Aug 21, 1999 10:47:59 am" To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Cc: jkb@freebsd.org Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com From: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL60 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Christopher Michaels once wrote: > Take a look here. > http://www.freebsd.org/~jkb/howto.html Is the "http://www.freebsd.org/~jkb/howto.html#pp" an official point of view? Ports and Packages It is best not to use ports or packages when building a secure system. You don't really know which ports or packages will install suid-root binaries on your system - and you don't want more then what you have already, trust me. Even though you can give different switches to the pkg_add command (such as "-v" or "-n"), it is best to download the software in source code form and compile it yourself. I do not see how building the software manualy is "more secure" -- unless you study the Makefiles and INSTALL/README files. This is something you can do with ports prior to doing `make install' anyway. Perhaps, that's what the web-page should encourage, rather then dismissing the whole ports system as "insecure". The web-page also has no mention of xinetd -- a pretty good, IMHO, replacement for inetd. -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 9:36: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pcnet1.pcnet.com (pcnet1.pcnet.com [204.213.232.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3F51503E for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:36:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eischen@vigrid.com) Received: (from eischen@localhost) by pcnet1.pcnet.com (8.8.7/PCNet) id MAA24428; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:34:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:34:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Eischen Message-Id: <199908211634.MAA24428@pcnet1.pcnet.com> To: mi@aldan.algebra.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sketch seg-faults at start-up -- confirmation Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Not yet :(, I guess.... Hmm, what version of uthread_select.c do you have? Here's another fix for uthread_select.c, but it shouldn't matter as long as sketch is passing in valid timevals... Index: uthread_select.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_select.c,v retrieving revision 1.5.2.4 diff -u -r1.5.2.4 uthread_select.c --- uthread_select.c 1999/08/20 21:17:45 1.5.2.4 +++ uthread_select.c 1999/08/21 16:29:08 @@ -59,8 +59,10 @@ /* Check if a timeout was specified: */ if (timeout) { if (timeout->tv_sec < 0 || - timeout->tv_usec < 0 || timeout->tv_usec >= 1000000) - return (EINVAL); + timeout->tv_usec < 0 || timeout->tv_usec >= 1000000) { + errno = EINVAL; + return (-1); + } /* Convert the timeval to a timespec: */ TIMEVAL_TO_TIMESPEC(timeout, &ts); Dan Eischen eischen@vigrid.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 9:43:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F06114F64; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:43:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA73693; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:42:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:42:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199908211642.JAA73693@apollo.backplane.com> To: Gerald Pfeifer Cc: The Hermit Hacker , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Known MMAP() race conditions ... ? References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, The Hermit Hacker wrote: :> Three weeks ago, I, and a few other INN administrators, posted about :> FreeBSD -STABLE's inability to run the newest INN code, due to MMAP() race :> conditions...essentially, after X hours of run time, on a heavily loaded :> INN server, the whole thing locks up solid. :> :> At that time, Matt pop'd up and stated that he knew of *at least* 6 MMAP() :> related race conditions that he was hoping to be able to get fixed "within :> a week"...that would have been two weeks ago. : :Maybe I missed that (I'm only on -stable, not -current), but what's the :current situation concerning this issue? : :Can I dare running the newest INN on -STABLE / -CURRENT or do you still :experience these problems? : :Gerald :-- :Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/ I've had fixes for CURRENT in the commit queue for a week but they haven't gone in yet. Once they get put in we will be able to backport the interesting parts to STABLE. There isn't much I can do about it without commit privs. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 11:11:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [209.157.82.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3605914D1D for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:11:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 25266 invoked by uid 100); 21 Aug 1999 18:10:26 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Aug 1999 18:10:26 -0000 Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:10:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Meyer To: Mikhail Teterin Cc: stable@freebsd.org, jkb@freebsd.org Subject: Re: setting up -STABLE for hack contest In-Reply-To: <199908211602.MAA06275@misha.cisco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Mikhail Teterin wrote: :->The web-page also has no mention of xinetd -- a pretty good, IMHO, :->replacement for inetd. If we're going to discuss improvements - I'd recommend that if you have to have a mail server, use one of the modern replacements (I use qmail) instead of being carefull with sendmail. Those replacements tend to be smaller than sendmail, and partition the work up so that the thing that listens to the network doesn't run as root. Both of these are good things. ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:10:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@misha.cisco.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA06480 for stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:09:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) Message-Id: <199908211909.PAA06480@misha.cisco.com> Subject: Re: sketch seg-faults at start-up -- confirmation In-Reply-To: <199908211634.MAA24428@pcnet1.pcnet.com> from Daniel Eischen at "Aug 21, 1999 12:34:54 pm" To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:09:01 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com From: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL60 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Daniel Eischen once wrote: > Hmm, what version of uthread_select.c do you have? Oops, it is, indeed: $Id: uthread_select.c,v 1.5.2.4 1999/08/20 21:17:45 alfred Exp $ I guess, it was updated at night. Thanks for the other patch too. Sketch comes up fine now. -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 12:12:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81C714C84 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:12:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA10695; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:12:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA27093; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:12:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990820094002.F20716@pavilion.net> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: Josef Karthauser Subject: Re: CVSupping un-needed ports Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, lambert@cswnet.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Josef Karthauser wrote: > It'd be better perhaps if this could be specified in the cvsup config > file. ? Probably so. > If I do a vendor branch import with 'cvs import', how do I get cvs to > delete files that are no longer part of the branch? At the moment > I'm manually diffing the checkedout branch and the original dist, > and then 'cvs delete'ing the surplus files by hand. There's gotta be > a better way :) There are several cases that are handled differently. 1. The vendor himself has removed some files that used to be in the distribution. You can get the list of removed files like this: tar tzf old-distfile.tgz | sort > Old tar tzf new-distfile.tgz | sorg > New comm -23 Old New > Deleted In this case you must manually "cvs remove" the files before or after doing the import. 2. There are some files in the vendor's distfile that you don't want or don't need. Manually delete them from the extracted distfile before doing the import. If there are a lot of them, you might wish to use the approach described in "src/contrib/binutils/FREEBSD-upgrade" and implemented in "FREEBSD-Xlist" there. Then you won't have to figure it out again when the next version comes out. 3. There are some files in both the old and new distfiles which you don't use and have already "cvs removed" from the repository. You shouldn't have to do anything in this case. Doing the import won't add them to the main branch. They'll be on the vendor branch, but that shouldn't cause them to appear in the checked-out tree. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up." -- Nora Ephron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 12:39: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E8E314C38 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:38:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21533; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:37:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:37:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: David Gilbert Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld choking on ipfw... In-Reply-To: <14270.7396.249467.793456@trooper.velocet.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, David Gilbert wrote: > Has anyone seen (or fixed) the following in a recent buildworld: > > ===> sbin/ipfw Run a 'make includes' first before 'make buildworld' and that should fix it. The deterministic firewall routing code added some constants in sys/netinet/ip_fw.h which ipfw(8) needs access to. (yes, I'm now tracking -stable) Doug White Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 12:55:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell6.ba.best.com (shell6.ba.best.com [206.184.139.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3311517A for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:55:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkb@shell6.ba.best.com) Received: (from jkb@localhost) by shell6.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) id MAA07127; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:54:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19990821125432.A3942@best.com> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:54:32 -0700 From: "Jan B. Koum " To: mi@aldan.algebra.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setting up -STABLE for hack contest References: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105BBB@site2s1> <199908211602.MAA06275@misha.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199908211602.MAA06275@misha.cisco.com>; from Mikhail Teterin on Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 12:02:07PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 12:02:07PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Christopher Michaels once wrote: > > > Take a look here. > > http://www.freebsd.org/~jkb/howto.html > > Is the "http://www.freebsd.org/~jkb/howto.html#pp" an official point of > view? > > Ports and Packages > > It is best not to use ports or packages when building a secure > system. You don't really know which ports or packages will > install suid-root binaries on your system - and you don't want > more then what you have already, trust me. Even though you can > give different switches to the pkg_add command (such as "-v" or > "-n"), it is best to download the software in source code form > and compile it yourself. > > I do not see how building the software manualy is "more secure" > -- unless you study the Makefiles and INSTALL/README files. This > is something you can do with ports prior to doing `make install' > anyway. Perhaps, that's what the web-page should encourage, rather then > dismissing the whole ports system as "insecure". > > The web-page also has no mention of xinetd -- a pretty good, IMHO, > replacement for inetd. > > -mi > inetd has no business running on a secure system. at the place where I work we either a) don't run inetd at all b) inetd.conf contains only one line for 'sshd -i' in it but on topic of port and packages: they are great. for a desktop - but not when you are building a secure server. I seen many times people install *everything* possible on the machine first and then going back and locking things down. that is wrong. you should install very minimum to begin with. I should probably be more clear in the above statement, but the fact that ports/packages install some stuff suid when it doesn't need to is still true (such as ssh - but not sure if that is true though). -- Yan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 12:55:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trooper.velocet.ca (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71DCE15225 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:55:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@trooper.velocet.ca) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by trooper.velocet.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA83905; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:55:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14271.1059.236956.785411@trooper.velocet.ca> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:55:15 -0400 (EDT) To: Doug White Cc: David Gilbert , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld choking on ipfw... In-Reply-To: References: <14270.7396.249467.793456@trooper.velocet.ca> X-Mailer: VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Doug" == Doug White writes: Doug> On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, David Gilbert wrote: >> Has anyone seen (or fixed) the following in a recent buildworld: >> >> ===> sbin/ipfw Doug> Run a 'make includes' first before 'make buildworld' and that Doug> should fix it. Doug> The deterministic firewall routing code added some constants in Doug> sys/netinet/ip_fw.h which ipfw(8) needs access to. Doug> (yes, I'm now tracking -stable) I remember this vaguely from following netbsd-current a few years ago... and I went looking for such a target in /usr/src/Makefile. It would seem prudent to put such targets in that documentation. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 13: 2:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F4C15386 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 13:02:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA01419; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 16:10:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 16:10:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Fritz Heinrichmeyer Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "successful" built libc_r.so.3 broke python-1.5.2 In-Reply-To: <000801beebab$ac947ce0$0101a8c0@hemer.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Fritz Heinrichmeyer wrote: > The python-1.5.2 test cases and unfortunately the fine sketch-0.6.1 program > (can edit ai-files and the famous tiger.ps) dump core > in the select-routine of my selfcompiled lbc_r.so.3. The one i had from > August 8. (not compiled myself) works ok. The > rest of my selfbuilt system seems to work fine. There is no deeper reason > for using ms-outlook at the moment. Yes, I goofed on a sanity check I added to the routine, the problem was fixed the next day. My apologies for any inconvience. the file uthread_select.c should be at version 1.5.2.4 -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@rush.net|alfred@freebsd.org] Wintelcom systems administrator and programmer - http://www.wintelcom.net/ [bright@wintelcom.net] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 15:19:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sprawlnet.com (ns1.sprawlnet.com [208.224.169.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9AB14D11 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:19:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@freebsdbox.com) Received: from freebsdbox.com (1Cust218.tnt10.atl2.da.uu.net [153.36.81.218]) by ns1.sprawlnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA21159 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 06:19:20 GMT (envelope-from mike@freebsdbox.com) Message-ID: <37BF4E59.FFC5AAE4@freebsdbox.com> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 18:11:53 -0700 From: Mike Steinfeld X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: ports not working after downgrade Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had a remote server running 4.0-current that i recently attempted to downgrade to 3.2-stable, reason being is i was wanting to run a database driven website on that server. After succesfully CVSup'ing the 3.2-STABLE source tree and a make world , whenever i attempt to install something from /usr/ports i get this messages: " Your system is too old to use this bsd.port.mk. You need a fresh make world or an upgrade kit. Please go to http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/ or a mirror site and follow the instructions. " The output of ' ls -ald /usr/ports ' is "drwxr-xr-x 51 root wheel 1024 Aug 20 22:32 /usr/ports". Now i just did a make world , Is there something i am missing in reference to the downgrade ? Thanks for your time. Michael Steinfeld Unix Administrator Sprawlnet.com INC. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 16:50:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sprawlnet.com (ns1.sprawlnet.com [208.224.169.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62CF514CAC for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 16:50:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@freebsdbox.com) Received: from freebsdbox.com (1Cust218.tnt10.atl2.da.uu.net [153.36.81.218]) by ns1.sprawlnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA21234 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 07:49:22 GMT (envelope-from mike@freebsdbox.com) Message-ID: <37BF6371.D25BB5F1@freebsdbox.com> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:41:53 -0700 From: Mike Steinfeld X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: MySQL doesnt want to install Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG im trying to install mysql from the ports and i have tried to d/l the .tar.gz and install it ... either way i get the same error " ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' ". Im sure im not the only one that has had this problem so any help would be appreciated. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 16:55:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC02914CAC for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 16:55:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA78897 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:54:51 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Docs blows up make release Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG cd /usr/doc ; make afterdistribute DESTDIR=/R/stage/trees/bin ===> en_US.ISO_8859-1 cd /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1 ; make afterdistribute DESTDIR=/R/stage/trees/bin ===> en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles cd /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles ; make afterdistribute DESTDIR=/R/stage/trees/bin ===> en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/diskless-x make: don't know how to make distribute. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Will support for building release docs in English only be revived? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 17:17: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5815F14E7B for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:16:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 3AE03F818; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D33D9B17; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:14:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@pawn.primelocation.net To: Mike Steinfeld Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MySQL doesnt want to install In-Reply-To: <37BF6371.D25BB5F1@freebsdbox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Mike Steinfeld wrote: > im trying to install mysql from the ports and i have tried to d/l the > .tar.gz and install it ... either way i get the same error " ERROR 2002: > Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' ". > > Im sure im not the only one that has had this problem so any help would > be appreciated. > Either compile with native threads (make NATIVE_THREADS=yes) or specify the hostname (*not* localhost) using the -h flag on the command line. The MySQL documentations states that pthreads do not work with domain dockets (i.e. /tmp/mysql.sock). BTW, this question is probably better suited to freebsd-ports. ----- Chris D. Faulhaber | All the true gurus I've met never System/Network Administrator, | claimed they were one, and always Reality Check Information, Inc. | pointed to someone better. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 17:19:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trooper.velocet.ca (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B7914E7B; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:19:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@trooper.velocet.ca) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by trooper.velocet.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA90254; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:19:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14271.16907.609732.513447@trooper.velocet.ca> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:19:23 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: libgmodule12.so.1? X-Mailer: VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm having trouble with gnumeric and xchat both bombing on libgmodule12.so.1. Now... this comes from /usr/ports/devel/glib12 ... and it installs libgmodule12.so.2. I have since recompiled that port and everything it depends on... and then recompiled both xchat and gnumeric. They still complain. What's going on here? Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 17:25:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027A714E7B for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:25:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA34538; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 01:22:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 01:22:32 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: jack Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Docs blows up make release Message-ID: <19990822012232.A34311@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from jack on Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 07:54:51PM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 07:54:51PM -0400, jack wrote: > cd /usr/doc ; make afterdistribute DESTDIR=/R/stage/trees/bin > ===> en_US.ISO_8859-1 > cd /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1 ; make afterdistribute DESTDIR=/R/stage/trees/bin > ===> en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles > cd /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles ; make afterdistribute > DESTDIR=/R/stage/trees/bin > ===> en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/diskless-x > make: don't know how to make distribute. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > > Will support for building release docs in English only be > revived? > Known problem. If the mailing list software wasn't rejecting multiple posts the following message would've appeared in -stable by now. If you're interested in following this in more detail, please subscribe to doc@freebsd.org. Thanks. N [ Sent to -doc, -committers, -stable, -current. To avoid spamming the lists with replies, "Reply-To:" points back to me ] I'm very pleased to announce the lifting of the freeze on the doc/ tree. The FreeBSD Documentation Project has now almost completed the transition from LinuxDoc to DocBook (3 small documents remain). This wouldn't have been possible without the contributions and hard work from many people, including, but not limited to; * John Polstra * Jun Kuriyama, and the other members of the Japanese translation team * Jesus Rodriguez, of the Spanish translation effort * Foxfair Hu, of the Chinese translation group * Andrey Chernov, of the Russian translaters and the many other members of the FDP who contributed comments and suggestions on the -doc mailing list. My thanks to all of you. In addition, I will very shortly be restarting the automatic re-generation of the FreeBSD website. The most visible change will be to the FAQ and tutorial sections. As you look over these documents, please remember that this is still early days, and that the formatting of these documents is open to review, and your suggestions and comments are appreciated. There is one item to note: it is highly likely that trying to build a release without defining the "NODOC" variable will fail. My preferred approach to fixing this is to move the documentation building completely outside of the release structure. The formatted documentation will shortly be available as packages. However, if this doesn't prove feasible then effort will be expended in fixing src/release/Makefile to cope with the new structure. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 17:43:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp11.bellglobal.com (smtp11.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F46614DEE for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:43:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from ppp18344.on.bellglobal.com (Hamilton-ppp44818.sympatico.ca [206.172.76.11]) by smtp11.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA16441; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:46:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by ppp18344.on.bellglobal.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA40663; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:45:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:45:20 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Mike Steinfeld Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports not working after downgrade Message-ID: <19990821204520.B40522@ppp18344.on.bellglobal.com> Reply-To: hoek@freebsd.org References: <37BF4E59.FFC5AAE4@freebsdbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <37BF4E59.FFC5AAE4@freebsdbox.com>; from Mike Steinfeld on Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 06:11:53PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 06:11:53PM -0700, Mike Steinfeld wrote: > > " Your system is too old to use this bsd.port.mk. You need a fresh make > world or an upgrade kit. Please go to http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/ or a > mirror site and follow the instructions. " Strange. It thinks it is too old because /var/db/port.mkversion says that your system was built before 19990501 (or thearabouts), or possibly because the file (and file /var/db/pkg/.mkversion) don't exist. You can create these manuallly and put the contents "19990820" into them. I don't know why they would {not exist, be wrong}. Perhaps you cvsup'd something other than -stable (eg. a -release). -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 17:47:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt011n65.san.rr.com (dt010nb9.san.rr.com [204.210.12.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77D514DEE for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:47:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt011n65.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA93324; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:46:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <37BF487F.3324216A@gorean.org> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:46:55 -0700 From: Doug Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT-0815 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Steinfeld Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports not working after downgrade References: <37BF4E59.FFC5AAE4@freebsdbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Steinfeld wrote: > > I had a remote server running 4.0-current that i recently attempted to > downgrade to 3.2-stable, reason being is i was wanting to run a database > driven website on that server. After succesfully CVSup'ing the > 3.2-STABLE source tree and a make world , whenever i attempt to install > something from /usr/ports i get this messages: > > " Your system is too old to use this bsd.port.mk. You need a fresh make > world or an upgrade kit. Please go to http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/ or a > mirror site and follow the instructions. " Hmmm... I'd blow away /usr/ports/Mk/* and re-cvsup. If that doesn't work, I'd delete /usr/ports/* and try again. :) Good luck, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 17:59:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt011n65.san.rr.com (dt010nb9.san.rr.com [204.210.12.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1B51556C for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:59:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt011n65.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA95097; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:55:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <37BF4A7D.C93A6C8F@gorean.org> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:55:25 -0700 From: Doug Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT-0815 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jack Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Docs blows up make release References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG jack wrote: > > Will support for building release docs in English only be > revived? > I don't think that's jingoistic at all, it's simply a matter of scarce resource utilization. If I only spoke spanish I wouldn't want to build the english docs either. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 18: 0:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp11.bellglobal.com (smtp11.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24809154CE for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 18:00:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from ppp18344.on.bellglobal.com (Hamilton-ppp44818.sympatico.ca [206.172.76.11]) by smtp11.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19169; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:03:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by ppp18344.on.bellglobal.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA40972; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:02:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:02:25 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Doug Cc: Mike Steinfeld , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports not working after downgrade Message-ID: <19990821210225.B40893@ppp18344.on.bellglobal.com> Reply-To: hoek@freebsd.org References: <37BF4E59.FFC5AAE4@freebsdbox.com> <37BF487F.3324216A@gorean.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <37BF487F.3324216A@gorean.org>; from Doug on Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 05:46:55PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 05:46:55PM -0700, Doug wrote: > > > > " Your system is too old to use this bsd.port.mk. You need a fresh make > > world or an upgrade kit. Please go to http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/ or a > > mirror site and follow the instructions. " > > Hmmm... I'd blow away /usr/ports/Mk/* and re-cvsup. If that doesn't work, > I'd delete /usr/ports/* and try again. :) Don't do that. The file causing problems is either /var/db/port.mkversion or /var/db/pkg/.mkversion. I don't know why they would be missing/wrong. At the very worst, you may need to remove Mk/bsd.port.mk, but that's fairly unlikely. -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 18: 6: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt011n65.san.rr.com (dt010nb9.san.rr.com [204.210.12.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A7A15479 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 18:05:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt011n65.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA96562; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 18:04:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <37BF4CB1.F18EFC5A@gorean.org> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 18:04:49 -0700 From: Doug Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT-0815 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: adhir@forumone.com Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG adhir@forumone.com wrote: > > An excerpt from my security check output: > > > orion.forumone.com kernel log messages: > > pmap_collect: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC > So, can anyone: > > 1. tell me what this means pv entries come into effect when you have several programs sharing the same virtual memory address space. When one of them forks the pv entries allow the kernel to know which pages of physical memory to map into the new virtual space. > 2. tell me how to increase it Check out LINT. We've cranked it up to 800 on a -current system to accomodate some honkin' big apache processes we've got running. I know people that've increased it to 1,000 on -Stable. The default is 200, so try increasing it by steps of 200 until you no longer see that error. Increasing it to a larger value than needed will just waste precious kernel memory address space. Good luck, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 20:44:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pcnet1.pcnet.com (pcnet1.pcnet.com [204.213.232.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279B5151CE for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:44:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eischen@vigrid.com) Received: (from eischen@localhost) by pcnet1.pcnet.com (8.8.7/PCNet) id XAA28592; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 23:43:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 23:43:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Eischen Message-Id: <199908220343.XAA28592@pcnet1.pcnet.com> To: jedgar@fxp.org, mike@freebsdbox.com Subject: Re: MySQL doesnt want to install Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Either compile with native threads (make NATIVE_THREADS=yes) or specify > the hostname (*not* localhost) using the -h flag on the command line. The > MySQL documentations states that pthreads do not work with domain dockets > (i.e. /tmp/mysql.sock). They do here. # mysqladmin variables +----------------------------+---------------------------------+ | Variable_name | Value | +----------------------------+---------------------------------+ | back_log | 5 | | connect_timeout | 5 | | basedir | /usr/local/ | | datadir | /var/db/mysql/ | | delayed_insert_limit | 100 | | delayed_insert_timeout | 300 | | delayed_queue_size | 1000 | | join_buffer | 131072 | | flush_time | 0 | | key_buffer | 8388600 | | language | /usr/local/share/mysql/english/ | | log | OFF | | log_update | OFF | | long_query_time | 10 | | low_priority_updates | OFF | | max_allowed_packet | 1048576 | | max_connections | 100 | | max_connect_errors | 10 | | max_delayed_insert_threads | 20 | | max_join_size | 4294967295 | | max_sort_length | 1024 | | net_buffer_length | 16384 | | port | 3306 | | protocol-version | 10 | | record_buffer | 131072 | | skip_locking | OFF | | socket | /tmp/mysql.sock | | sort_buffer | 2097144 | | table_cache | 64 | | thread_stack | 65536 | | tmp_table_size | 1048576 | | tmpdir | /var/tmp/ | | version | 3.22.22 | | wait_timeout | 28800 | +----------------------------+---------------------------------+ Compiled with NATIVE_THREADS=yes. Dan Eischen eischen@vigrid.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 20:57:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E346154E4 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:57:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 27E82F818; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 23:57:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A73F9B17; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 23:57:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 23:57:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@pawn.primelocation.net To: Daniel Eischen Cc: mike@freebsdbox.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MySQL doesnt want to install In-Reply-To: <199908220343.XAA28592@pcnet1.pcnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Daniel Eischen wrote: > > Either compile with native threads (make NATIVE_THREADS=yes) or specify > > the hostname (*not* localhost) using the -h flag on the command line. The > > MySQL documentations states that pthreads do not work with domain dockets > > (i.e. /tmp/mysql.sock). > > They do here. > > # mysqladmin variables > +----------------------------+---------------------------------+ > | Variable_name | Value | > +----------------------------+---------------------------------+ *snip* > | socket | /tmp/mysql.sock | *snip* > +----------------------------+---------------------------------+ > > Compiled with NATIVE_THREADS=yes. > Just as I said, pthreads do not support domain sockets. You compiled with native threads, *not* [the included] pthreads, therefore you have support for the domain socket shown. ----- Chris D. Faulhaber | All the true gurus I've met never System/Network Administrator, | claimed they were one, and always Reality Check Information, Inc. | pointed to someone better. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 21: 7:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pcnet1.pcnet.com (pcnet1.pcnet.com [204.213.232.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E47515319 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:06:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eischen@vigrid.com) Received: (from eischen@localhost) by pcnet1.pcnet.com (8.8.7/PCNet) id AAA01032; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 00:03:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 00:03:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Eischen Message-Id: <199908220403.AAA01032@pcnet1.pcnet.com> To: eischen@vigrid.com, jedgar@fxp.org Subject: Re: MySQL doesnt want to install Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, mike@freebsdbox.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Just as I said, pthreads do not support domain sockets. You compiled with > native threads, *not* [the included] pthreads, therefore you have support > for the domain socket shown. Oops, sorry. I didn't realize that when you said pthreads, you didn't mean _our_ pthreads. Dan Eischen eischen@vigrid.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 21:21: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF63014C05 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:21:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1003) id DDE18F818; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 00:20:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9909B17; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 00:20:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 00:20:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@pawn.primelocation.net To: Daniel Eischen Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, mike@freebsdbox.com Subject: Re: MySQL doesnt want to install In-Reply-To: <199908220403.AAA01032@pcnet1.pcnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Daniel Eischen wrote: > > Just as I said, pthreads do not support domain sockets. You compiled with > > native threads, *not* [the included] pthreads, therefore you have support > > for the domain socket shown. > > Oops, sorry. I didn't realize that when you said pthreads, you didn't > mean _our_ pthreads. > Perhaps some sort of disclaimer should be shown (along with the libc_r option/warning) when compiling with the included pthreads to prevent this question from arising so often. ----- Chris D. Faulhaber | All the true gurus I've met never System/Network Administrator, | claimed they were one, and always Reality Check Information, Inc. | pointed to someone better. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 21:47:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2933A14D13 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:47:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA12938; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:46:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA27658; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:45:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908220445.VAA27658@vashon.polstra.com> To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Subject: Re: buildworld choking on ipfw... In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article , Doug White wrote: > On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, David Gilbert wrote: > > > Has anyone seen (or fixed) the following in a recent buildworld: > > > > ===> sbin/ipfw > > Run a 'make includes' first before 'make buildworld' and that should fix > it. Why is that necessary? Make buildworld itself does a make includes into the obj tree long before it compiles ipfw. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up." -- Nora Ephron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 21 22:46:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (alecto.physics.uiuc.edu [130.126.8.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE5814BFC for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:46:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu) Received: (from igor@localhost) by alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) id AAA11248; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 00:45:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Igor Roshchin Message-Id: <199908220545.AAA11248@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> Subject: rx list ??? To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 00:45:48 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! I found the following messages (so far just once) on a server that is running web-server (apache), and an ftp server. This is 3.1-19990412-STABLE with a custom-built kernel with maxusers set to 128, running on a PPRO-180 with 128MB of RAM and ~260MB of swap space. Aug 21 16:00:29 HOST /kernel: Out of mbuf clusters - adjust NMBCL USTERS or increase maxusers! Aug 21 16:00:29 HOST /kernel: xl0: no memory for rx list -- packe t dropped! Aug 21 16:00:43 HOST last message repeated 1354 times I don't see anything in the logs that would indicate an extraodinary load , however, it looks like neither of the servers logged anything between 16:00:29 and 16:00:41 I wonder, whether it is possible that this is due some type of a DOS attack. Also, what can be done ? I am not certain if boosting the value of maxusers up would be a wise solution. Any thoughts are appreciated. Igor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message