From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Nov 19 1:41:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBBF37B479; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 01:41:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13xQyX-0006ZL-00; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:41:29 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAJ9eHe04992; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 10:40:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 10:40:17 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: alpha@freebsd.org Cc: Klaus Berbach , "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD Message-ID: <20001119104017.A4612@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20001119003145.C7E9237B479@hub.freebsd.org> <20001118164958.A75195@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20001118164958.A75195@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@freebsd.org on Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 04:49:58PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 04:49:58PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 01:42:36AM +0100, Klaus Berbach wrote: > > Well, SRM does see all devices and even booting from CD > > works fine (plain "boot dka400"). > > So we know your SCSI controller is recognized by SRM. > > > The full message (just in case it helps): > > Yes, *immensely* (it should have been the first thing you posted) and > much more understandable what is going on than your description of what > happened above. > > > Loading /boot/loader > > halted CPU 0 > > halt code = 2 > > kernel stack not valid halt > > PC = 0 > > >>> > > > This is what used to happen when we were corrupting the stack (when FICL > was first put into the Alpha loader). What version of FreeBSD was this? This is not 4.1.1. by any chance I hope? -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Nov 19 1:41:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBBF37B479; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 01:41:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13xQyX-0006ZL-00; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:41:29 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAJ9eHe04992; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 10:40:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 10:40:17 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: alpha@freebsd.org Cc: Klaus Berbach , "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD Message-ID: <20001119104017.A4612@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20001119003145.C7E9237B479@hub.freebsd.org> <20001118164958.A75195@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20001118164958.A75195@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@freebsd.org on Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 04:49:58PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 04:49:58PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 01:42:36AM +0100, Klaus Berbach wrote: > > Well, SRM does see all devices and even booting from CD > > works fine (plain "boot dka400"). > > So we know your SCSI controller is recognized by SRM. > > > The full message (just in case it helps): > > Yes, *immensely* (it should have been the first thing you posted) and > much more understandable what is going on than your description of what > happened above. > > > Loading /boot/loader > > halted CPU 0 > > halt code = 2 > > kernel stack not valid halt > > PC = 0 > > >>> > > > This is what used to happen when we were corrupting the stack (when FICL > was first put into the Alpha loader). What version of FreeBSD was this? This is not 4.1.1. by any chance I hope? -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Nov 19 11:50: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271D737B479 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 11:50:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from bonsai.knology.net (user-24-214-88-8.knology.net [24.214.88.8]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAJJo1707662 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:50:01 -0600 (CST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by bonsai.knology.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) id eAJJnZ807423 for alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:49:35 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:49:25 -0600 From: Steve Price To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: thread problems on Alpha? Message-ID: <20001119134925.V62344@bonsai.knology.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I noticed a strange problem while building the gtk12 port on my Alpha box. I did some digging and below is the shortest program I can write that demonstrates the problem. root@alpha(/tmp)# cat foo.c #include int main (void) { system("echo Hello world"); return 0; } root@alpha(/tmp)# cc -g -o foo foo.c root@alpha(/tmp)# ./foo Hello world root@alpha(/tmp)# cc -g -pthread -o foo -D_THREAD_SAFE foo.c root@alpha(/tmp)# ./foo Hello world zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped) ./foo root@alpha(/tmp)# gdb ./foo foo.core GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "alpha-unknown-freebsd"... Core was generated by `foo'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc_r.so.4...done. Reading symbols from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1...done. #0 0x1600c7c70 in _thread_kern_scheduler () from /usr/lib/libc_r.so.4 (gdb) where #0 0x1600c7c70 in _thread_kern_scheduler () from /usr/lib/libc_r.so.4 (gdb) quit Just curious if this is reproducible on anyone else's box before I dig deeper into the problem. -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Nov 19 14:43:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660BC37B479 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:43:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA12774; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:43:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eAJMhct57782; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:43:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:43:38 -0500 (EST) To: Steve Price Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: thread problems on Alpha? In-Reply-To: <20001119134925.V62344@bonsai.knology.net> References: <20001119134925.V62344@bonsai.knology.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14872.22362.622807.780691@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Steve Price writes: > root@alpha(/tmp)# cc -g -pthread -o foo -D_THREAD_SAFE foo.c > root@alpha(/tmp)# ./foo > Hello world > zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped) ./foo Threads are broken on alpha. Daniel Eischen is working on it now... Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Nov 19 15:17: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBE237B479 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 15:17:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from bonsai.knology.net ([24.214.88.8]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAJNGx713525; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:17:00 -0600 (CST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by bonsai.knology.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) id eAJNGed13498; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:16:40 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:16:30 -0600 From: Steve Price To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: thread problems on Alpha? Message-ID: <20001119171630.A13237@bonsai.knology.net> References: <20001119134925.V62344@bonsai.knology.net> <14872.22362.622807.780691@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <14872.22362.622807.780691@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 05:43:38PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 05:43:38PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: # # Steve Price writes: # > root@alpha(/tmp)# cc -g -pthread -o foo -D_THREAD_SAFE foo.c # > root@alpha(/tmp)# ./foo # > Hello world # > zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped) ./foo # # Threads are broken on alpha. Daniel Eischen is working on it now... Ah, okay. I assume Daniel is working on fixing it in -current? This is a 4.2RC box that until about a week ago was runing 4.1RC. Either a bug snuck in since then or some of the code he is working on made it into -stable. Just in case you are wondering about 4.*RC, it is because this boxes builds the Alpha packages and only gets updated just before a release happens. :) -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Nov 19 16:30:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8132B37B4D7 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 16:30:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 13xeqy-0008Ma-00; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 01:30:36 +0100 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eAJNqa860551 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:52:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: AlphaXL FAQ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:52:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <8v9p44$1r3u$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: <20001117232306.A50269@hex.ex.muffin.org> <20001117162122.A27462@dragon.nuxi.com> <20001118191758.A18652@hex.ex.muffin.org> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Henrik Wist wrote: > > There is a WIP in /sys/boot/arc/ to allow us to boot and run on > > AlphaBIOS. So you'd need to jump in and hack on that to finish it. > Haven't looked at it (all 3.x boxes here), but how much work do you think it > would be? Is it feasible anyway to do it in the copious spare time? It should be pointed out that this was basically a single-handed effort by Stefan Esser, who stopped working on this (probably for reasons external to the project) quite some time ago. Stefan's work served to create a bootstrap for loading a kernel under AlphaBIOS. I don't know how close he was to finishing this. A separate, and probably more difficult problem is the PALcode issue. PALcode is a kind of very low level firmware that provides abstractions for the details of various low level operations that are determined by the implementation (exact type of CPU and board) rather than the general alpha architecture. Interrupt handling, cache issues, things like that. There are different types of PALcode to support different operating systems (Unix, VMS, MS Windows NT). The SRM console for a platform contains the Unix/VMS PALcode, the ARC/ARCSBIOS/AlphaBIOS consoles the NT PALcode. BSD requires the Unix PALcode. Linux circumvented this problem by providing the MILO bootstrap which carries its own PALcode. Unfortunately, I'm told the MILO PALcode is insufficient to run BSD--apart from potential copyright issues. So, we need: - A bootloader for ARC. (Partly done.) - Unix PALcode for every type of machine to be supported. FWIW, I have a PC164UX machine (aka "Ruffian", designed by Deskstation, ARCSBIOS, no SRM) sitting here that does very little since I've become rather unhappy with Linux. I think that's the same type of machine Stefan was working on, so I guess I should check out how far he got. Unfortunately, as far as I can tell the technicial issues of getting BSD to run on ARC machines are way over my head. I'm not sure how much actual work this is, but the required _expertise_ is a big obstacle. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Nov 19 16:42: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5198F37B479 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 16:42:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 24739 invoked by uid 0); 20 Nov 2000 00:42:00 -0000 Received: from ppp-14.pm02.hbg.nikoma.de (HELO feldregen) (212.122.132.77) by mail.gmx.net (mail09) with SMTP; 20 Nov 2000 00:42:00 -0000 From: "Klaus Berbach" To: "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 01:52:55 +0100 Reply-To: "Klaus Berbach" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195;1) In-Reply-To: <20001119104017.A4612@freebie.demon.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD Message-Id: <20001120004202.5198F37B479@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >This is not 4.1.1. by any chance I hope? It is the 4.1 iso. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Nov 19 21:57:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from virtual.valuelinx.net (unknown [208.189.209.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D5E37B479 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 21:57:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from penix.org (ppp8819.on.bellglobal.com [207.236.126.3]) by virtual.valuelinx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id FAA30334 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 05:56:08 GMT Message-ID: <3A18BA7E.AED85CAF@penix.org> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:45:34 -0500 From: Paul Halliday X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: alphadocs. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Evening folks.. Just wondering, is there a freeBSD _alpha_ documentation project going on? Aside from the little docs in the ftp dir. Curious. -- Paul H. ============================================================================ Don't underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. Brute force is the last resort of the incompetent. GPG Key fingerprint: 2D7C A7E2 DB1F EA5F 8C6F D5EC 3D39 F274 4AA3 E8B9 Web: http://www3.sympatico.ca/transmogrify Public Key available here: http://www3.sympatico.ca/transmogrify/dp.txt ============================================================================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Nov 19 23:27: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB43E37B479 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:27:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13xlLw-000ODu-00; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:27:00 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAK7Poj10531; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:25:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:25:50 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Paul Halliday Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: alphadocs. Message-ID: <20001120082550.A9414@freebie.demon.nl> References: <3A18BA7E.AED85CAF@penix.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3A18BA7E.AED85CAF@penix.org>; from dp@penix.org on Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 12:45:34AM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 12:45:34AM -0500, Paul Halliday wrote: > Evening folks.. > > Just wondering, is there a freeBSD _alpha_ documentation project going > on? Aside from the > little docs in the ftp dir. Apart from alpha/HARDWARE.TXT I'm not aware of anything special going on for alpha. What would you need? -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 20 5: 9:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFFD937B479 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 05:09:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from bonsai.knology.net (user-24-214-88-8.knology.net [24.214.88.8]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAKD9X723086; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:09:33 -0600 (CST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by bonsai.knology.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) id eAKD9XJ01698; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:09:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:09:23 -0600 From: Steve Price To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: thread problems on Alpha? Message-ID: <20001120070923.E22832@bonsai.knology.net> References: <20001119134925.V62344@bonsai.knology.net> <14872.22362.622807.780691@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <14872.22362.622807.780691@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 05:43:38PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 05:43:38PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: # # Steve Price writes: # > root@alpha(/tmp)# cc -g -pthread -o foo -D_THREAD_SAFE foo.c # > root@alpha(/tmp)# ./foo # > Hello world # > zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped) ./foo # # Threads are broken on alpha. Daniel Eischen is working on it now... Just for a little closure (and good news) recent MFCs from Daniel and Jordan fixed the problems that I was seeing. -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 20 14: 8:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AAF2537B687 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:08:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 19626 invoked by uid 0); 20 Nov 2000 21:56:16 -0000 Received: from ppp-4.pm02.hbg.nikoma.de (HELO feldregen) (212.122.132.67) by mail.gmx.net (mail05) with SMTP; 20 Nov 2000 21:56:16 -0000 From: "Klaus Berbach" To: "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:07:17 +0100 Reply-To: "Klaus Berbach" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195;1) In-Reply-To: <20001120004202.5198F37B479@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD (works now) Message-Id: <20001120220821.AAF2537B687@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Booting does work now. Must have been an installation error. Thnx to everyone who took time. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 20 15:38:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179CD37B4CF for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:38:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id eAKNciP28949 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK) for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 00:38:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0.Beta1/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id eAKNcf529484 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 00:38:41 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.9.2) id eAKNcbJ20729 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 00:38:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 00:38:36 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Patch to make my PC164 booting. Message-ID: <20001121003836.A20659@cicely8.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="T4sUOijqQbZv57TR" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I don't know the exact problems on other platforms. The attached workaround is promising on my pc164. It basicly adds a removing of the cpu int mask for pci/isa irqs to the int enable code (We may still need to enable when a drivers ataches) and adds the cpu mask in the disabling code. This is similar as holding the ipl higher as the ipl has only one level for all i/o devices which is what the cpu masks disables. If a new device attaches and enables his int a new trap get refired unneededly once. As my patch applys to all eb164 based systems it also applys to former working systems - I don't asume any critical problems with it but it might decrease the performance unnecessarily. Another point is that I use an PAL function to enable PAL privileged commands to access the mask. This cserve funtionality might not be available on every system and needs to be tested. The current result with this is the following: It boots into single user mode everytime I tried which never happened before with the scsi controllers compiled into the kernel. It survived a flood ping via the xl card which never worked before. After all it is still unstable. Usually it hangs during fsck or during cvs co and doesn't react on the seriel anymore. One time I had the luck that it still reacted on the seriel and acepted a break to ddb - swapper was waiting in sched. I don't know if the fix only makes it happen less often or if I'm now seeing different problems. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="alpha.eb164.patch" Index: sys/alpha/pci//pci_eb164_intr.s =================================================================== RCS file: /vol/cvs/FreeBSD/src/sys/alpha/pci/pci_eb164_intr.s,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 pci_eb164_intr.s --- sys/alpha/pci//pci_eb164_intr.s 2000/11/09 17:01:21 1.3 +++ sys/alpha/pci//pci_eb164_intr.s 2000/11/20 18:42:20 @@ -53,13 +53,30 @@ mov a0, a1 ldiq a0, 0x34 call_pal PAL_cserve + ldiq a0, 0x08 /* Allow PALRES */ + call_pal PAL_cserve + .long 0x66100118 /* hw_mfpr a0, icsr */ + ldah a1, 0x0020 /* IMSK1 */ + or a0, a1, a0 + xor a0, a1, a0 + .long 0x76100118 /* hw_mtpr a0, icsr */ + ldiq a0, 0x09 /* Disable PALRES */ + call_pal PAL_cserve RET END(eb164_intr_enable) .text LEAF(eb164_intr_disable,1) - mov a0, a1 +/* mov a0, a1 ldiq a0, 0x35 + call_pal PAL_cserve */ + ldiq a0, 0x08 /* Allow PALRES */ + call_pal PAL_cserve + .long 0x66100118 /* hw_mfpr a0, icsr */ + ldah a1, 0x0020 /* IMSK1 */ + or a0, a1, a0 + .long 0x76100118 /* hw_mtpr a0, icsr */ + ldiq a0, 0x09 /* Disable PALRES */ call_pal PAL_cserve RET END(eb164_intr_disable) --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 21 18:32:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB3A37B479 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 18:32:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id eAM2W6p28966 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK) for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 03:32:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0.Beta1/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id eAM2W4533563 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 03:32:04 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.9.2) id eAM2Vxq22619 for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 03:31:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 03:31:58 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Patch to make my PC164 booting. Message-ID: <20001122033158.A22593@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <20001121003836.A20659@cicely8.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20001121003836.A20659@cicely8.cicely.de>; from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de on Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 12:38:36AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 12:38:36AM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: > The current result with this is the following: > It boots into single user mode everytime I tried which never happened > before with the scsi controllers compiled into the kernel. > It survived a flood ping via the xl card which never worked before. > After all it is still unstable. > Usually it hangs during fsck or during cvs co and doesn't react on the > seriel anymore. > One time I had the luck that it still reacted on the seriel and acepted > a break to ddb - swapper was waiting in sched. The situation is that there is a chance of the system hanging or maybe only the console if there is some usage of the console. The system survived a buildworld using a network connection. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 22 2:36:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DB737B4CF; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 02:36:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.2-31 #42699) with ESMTP id <01JWU88JQHQA0011FF@research.kpn.com>; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:36:48 +0100 Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:36:48 +0100 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:36:46 +0100 From: "Koster, K.J." Subject: RE: RESOLVED - Re: loader issues... To: "'obrien@freebsd.org'" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D7A39@l04.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Works on my AS250. Are you sure you didn't create the swap partition > before / in sysinstall? It has been my experience that we do > not boot if the `a' (/) partition isn't at a lower offset than `b' > (swap). > This is a problem, because the easiest way to make the two-partition setup is to create a swap partition of 2x memory size, and "the rest" for /. That's the way I do it for my x86 boxes with limited disk space (< 1GB). Glad that my Alpha has a 1 GB disk, so I used the auto defaults settings. Has a PR been filed for this one? Kees Jan ================================================ You are only young once, but you can stay immature all your life. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 22 5:26:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from 1upmc-msx1.isdip.upmc.edu (1upmc-msx1.isdip.upmc.edu [128.147.16.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A91137B479 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 05:26:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 1upmc-msx1.isdip.upmc.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:26:07 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Person, Roderick" To: 'Alpha FreeBSD' Subject: Installing 4.1 on Noname AXPpci 33 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:26:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C05487.C487F91C" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C05487.C487F91C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I been at this for some thime now (about 2 weeks) after get everything I needed to boot this sucker up I am at this point. When I place the mfsroot disk in it seem to read it fine for a minute or so, then I get unknown error, then it seem to continue to boot and detect all the hardware, but I get the message to to manually type in the boot device and filesystem. I tried to use this: ufs:/dev/fd0 for the mfsroot disk but it tells me that there is no /sysinstall on it. So I tried to recreate the mfsroot disk? And it seems to not work at all. I tried it by using the steps in the readme(in the floppies dir) on the 4.1 CD. I get lots of error(yes I tried to format 7 different disks). I then tried to use rawrite in DOS and no luck the image would not take. Now since the kernal image took fine this leads me to ask is the a problem with the 4.1 mfsroot.flp image or I'm I really missing something!!!??? Roderick P. Person Programmer II Crystal Administrator personrp@ccbh.com How can anyone govern a nation that has two hundred and forty six different kinds of cheese? - Charles de Gaulle ------_=_NextPart_001_01C05487.C487F91C Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Installing 4.1 on Noname AXPpci 33

I been at this for some thime now (about 2 weeks) = after get everything I needed to boot this sucker up I am at this = point.

When I place the mfsroot disk in it seem to read it = fine for a minute or so, then I get unknown error, then it seem to = continue to boot and detect all the hardware, but I get the message to = to manually type in the boot device and filesystem.

I tried to use this:
        =         ufs:/dev/fd0

for the mfsroot disk but it tells me that there is no = /sysinstall on it.

So I tried to recreate the mfsroot disk? And it seems = to not work at all. I tried it by using the steps in the readme(in the = floppies dir) on the 4.1 CD. I get lots of error(yes I tried to format = 7 different disks). I then tried to use rawrite in DOS and no luck the = image would not take.

Now since the kernal image took fine this leads me to = ask is the a problem with the 4.1 mfsroot.flp image or I'm I really = missing something!!!???

Roderick P. Person
Programmer II
Crystal Administrator
personrp@ccbh.com




How can anyone govern a nation that has two hundred = and forty six different kinds of cheese?
- Charles de Gaulle

------_=_NextPart_001_01C05487.C487F91C-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 22 5:41: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C2937B4D7 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 05:41:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id eAMDewl29870 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:41:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0.Beta1/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id eAMDer535149; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:40:57 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.9.2) id eAMDerg23185; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:40:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:40:53 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: "Person, Roderick" Cc: "'Alpha FreeBSD'" Subject: Re: Installing 4.1 on Noname AXPpci 33 Message-ID: <20001122144052.A23162@cicely8.cicely.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from personrp@ccbh.com on Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 08:26:15AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 08:26:15AM -0500, Person, Roderick wrote: > I been at this for some thime now (about 2 weeks) after get everything I > needed to boot this sucker up I am at this point. > > When I place the mfsroot disk in it seem to read it fine for a minute or so, > then I get unknown error, then it seem to continue to boot and detect all > the hardware, but I get the message to to manually type in the boot device > and filesystem. > > I tried to use this: > ufs:/dev/fd0 > > for the mfsroot disk but it tells me that there is no /sysinstall on it. > > So I tried to recreate the mfsroot disk? And it seems to not work at all. I > tried it by using the steps in the readme(in the floppies dir) on the 4.1 > CD. I get lots of error(yes I tried to format 7 different disks). I then > tried to use rawrite in DOS and no luck the image would not take. > > Now since the kernal image took fine this leads me to ask is the a problem > with the 4.1 mfsroot.flp image or I'm I really missing something!!!??? I'm running 4.1 on such a system and installed it using disks. From the message there is something wrong with your image or disk. It would help if you be more specific about the error you've got. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 22 5:46:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from 1upmc-msx1.isdip.upmc.edu (1upmc-msx1.isdip.upmc.edu [128.147.16.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F2537B4D7 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 05:46:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 1upmc-msx1.isdip.upmc.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:45:49 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Person, Roderick" To: 'Bernd Walter' , "Person, Roderick" Cc: 'Alpha FreeBSD' Subject: RE: Installing 4.1 on Noname AXPpci 33 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:45:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0548A.85FD4744" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0548A.85FD4744 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" When the mfsroot disk was reading the error was UNKNOWN ERROR When I tried ufs:/devfd0 at the prompt the error code was 22. Roderick P. Person Programmer II Crystal Administrator (412)454-2616 personrp@ccbh.com How can anyone govern a nation that has two hundred and forty six different kinds of cheese? - Charles de Gaulle > -----Original Message----- > From: Bernd Walter [mailto:ticso@cicely8.cicely.de] > Sent: November 22, 2000 8:41 AM > To: Person, Roderick > Cc: 'Alpha FreeBSD' > Subject: Re: Installing 4.1 on Noname AXPpci 33 > > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 08:26:15AM -0500, Person, Roderick wrote: > > I been at this for some thime now (about 2 weeks) after get > everything I > > needed to boot this sucker up I am at this point. > > > > When I place the mfsroot disk in it seem to read it fine > for a minute or so, > > then I get unknown error, then it seem to continue to boot > and detect all > > the hardware, but I get the message to to manually type in > the boot device > > and filesystem. > > > > I tried to use this: > > ufs:/dev/fd0 > > > > for the mfsroot disk but it tells me that there is no > /sysinstall on it. > > > > So I tried to recreate the mfsroot disk? And it seems to > not work at all. I > > tried it by using the steps in the readme(in the floppies > dir) on the 4.1 > > CD. I get lots of error(yes I tried to format 7 different > disks). I then > > tried to use rawrite in DOS and no luck the image would not take. > > > > Now since the kernal image took fine this leads me to ask > is the a problem > > with the 4.1 mfsroot.flp image or I'm I really missing > something!!!??? > > I'm running 4.1 on such a system and installed it using disks. > From the message there is something wrong with your image or disk. > It would help if you be more specific about the error you've got. > > -- > B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0548A.85FD4744 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: Installing 4.1 on Noname AXPpci 33

When the mfsroot disk was reading the error was UNKNOWN ERROR

When I tried ufs:/devfd0 at the prompt the error code was 22.

Roderick P. Person
Programmer II
Crystal Administrator
(412)454-2616
personrp@ccbh.com




How can anyone govern a nation that has two hundred and forty six different kinds of cheese?
- Charles de Gaulle

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bernd Walter [mailto:ticso@cicely8.cicely.de]
> Sent: November 22, 2000 8:41 AM
> To: Person, Roderick
> Cc: 'Alpha FreeBSD'
> Subject: Re: Installing 4.1 on Noname AXPpci 33
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 08:26:15AM -0500, Person, Roderick wrote:
> > I been at this for some thime now (about 2 weeks) after get
> everything I
> > needed to boot this sucker up I am at this point.
> >
> > When I place the mfsroot disk in it seem to read it fine
> for a minute or so,
> > then I get unknown error, then it seem to continue to boot
> and detect all
> > the hardware, but I get the message to to manually type in
> the boot device
> > and filesystem.
> >
> > I tried to use this:
> >             ufs:/dev/fd0
> >
> > for the mfsroot disk but it tells me that there is no
> /sysinstall on it.
> >
> > So I tried to recreate the mfsroot disk? And it seems to
> not work at all. I
> > tried it by using the steps in the readme(in the floppies
> dir) on the 4.1
> > CD. I get lots of error(yes I tried to format 7 different
> disks). I then
> > tried to use rawrite in DOS and no luck the image would not take.
> >
> > Now since the kernal image took fine this leads me to ask
> is the a problem
> > with the 4.1 mfsroot.flp image or I'm I really missing
> something!!!???
>
> I'm running 4.1 on such a system and installed it using disks.
> From the message there is something wrong with your image or disk.
> It would help if you be more specific about the error you've got.
>
> --
> B.Walter              COSMO-Project        
http://www.cosmo-project.de
ticso@cicely.de         Usergroup           info@cosmo-project.de

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0548A.85FD4744-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 22 6:35:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3299337B4D7 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 06:35:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.2-31 #42699) with ESMTP id <01JWUGK41Z9Q00114G@research.kpn.com> for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 15:35:12 +0100 Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 15:35:11 +0100 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 15:35:04 +0100 From: "Koster, K.J." Subject: RE: Installing 4.1 on Noname AXPpci 33 To: "'Person, Roderick'" Cc: 'Alpha FreeBSD' Message-id: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D7A3F@l04.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Roderick, > > When the mfsroot disk was reading the error was UNKNOWN ERROR > When I tried ufs:/devfd0 at the prompt the error code was 22. > You could try to boot the installation cdrom from the console. That's how I installed 4.2RC1 on my NoName box. Use show dev in SRM to find the devices, then boot from the cdrom device. Dumb question of course, but are you sure it's the FreeBSD/alpha image and not the FreeBSD/x86 ISO image? Kees Jan ================================================ You are only young once, but you can stay immature all your life. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 22 6:38: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from 1upmc-msx1.isdip.upmc.edu (1upmc-msx1.isdip.upmc.edu [128.147.16.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4512A37B4C5 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 06:38:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 1upmc-msx1.isdip.upmc.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:37:10 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Person, Roderick" To: "'Koster, K.J.'" , "Person, Roderick" Cc: 'Alpha FreeBSD' Subject: RE: Installing 4.1 on Noname AXPpci 33 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:37:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C05491.B15400FC" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C05491.B15400FC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My cdrom isn't SCSI, only the HD. Yes it's the Alpha image. Roderick P. Person Programmer II Crystal Administrator (412)454-2616 personrp@ccbh.com How can anyone govern a nation that has two hundred and forty six different kinds of cheese? - Charles de Gaulle > -----Original Message----- > From: Koster, K.J. [mailto:K.J.Koster@kpn.com] > Sent: November 22, 2000 9:35 AM > To: 'Person, Roderick' > Cc: 'Alpha FreeBSD' > Subject: RE: Installing 4.1 on Noname AXPpci 33 > > > Dear Roderick, > > > > > When the mfsroot disk was reading the error was UNKNOWN ERROR > > When I tried ufs:/devfd0 at the prompt the error code was 22. > > > You could try to boot the installation cdrom from the > console. That's how I > installed 4.2RC1 on my NoName box. Use show dev in SRM to > find the devices, > then boot from the cdrom device. > > Dumb question of course, but are you sure it's the > FreeBSD/alpha image and > not the FreeBSD/x86 ISO image? > > Kees Jan > ================================================ > You are only young once, > but you can stay immature all your life. > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C05491.B15400FC Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: Installing 4.1 on Noname AXPpci 33

My cdrom isn't SCSI, only the HD.

Yes it's the Alpha image.

Roderick P. Person
Programmer II
Crystal Administrator
(412)454-2616
personrp@ccbh.com




How can anyone govern a nation that has two hundred and forty six different kinds of cheese?
- Charles de Gaulle

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Koster, K.J. [mailto:K.J.Koster@kpn.com]
> Sent: November 22, 2000 9:35 AM
> To: 'Person, Roderick'
> Cc: 'Alpha FreeBSD'
> Subject: RE: Installing 4.1 on Noname AXPpci 33
>
>
> Dear Roderick,
>
> >
> > When the mfsroot disk was reading the error was UNKNOWN ERROR
> > When I tried ufs:/devfd0 at the prompt the error code was 22.
> >
> You could try to boot the installation cdrom from the
> console. That's how I
> installed 4.2RC1 on my NoName box. Use show dev in SRM to
> find the devices,
> then boot from the cdrom device.
>
> Dumb question of course, but are you sure it's the
> FreeBSD/alpha image and
> not the FreeBSD/x86 ISO image?
>
>     Kees Jan
> ================================================
>  You are only young once,
>        but you can stay immature all your life.
>

------_=_NextPart_001_01C05491.B15400FC-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 22 7:52:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from comet.connix.com (comet.connix.com [198.69.10.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C65137B4CF; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 07:52:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (booga@localhost) by comet.connix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14058; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:51:06 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: comet.connix.com: booga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:51:06 -0500 (EST) From: sko@eth0.net X-Sender: booga@comet.connix.com To: "Koster, K.J." Cc: "'obrien@freebsd.org'" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: RESOLVED - Re: loader issues... In-Reply-To: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D7A39@l04.research.kpn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Koster, K.J. wrote: > > > > Works on my AS250. Are you sure you didn't create the swap partition > > before / in sysinstall? It has been my experience that we do > > not boot if the `a' (/) partition isn't at a lower offset than `b' > > (swap). > > > This is a problem, because the easiest way to make the two-partition setup > is to create a swap partition of 2x memory size, and "the rest" for /. > That's the way I do it for my x86 boxes with limited disk space (< 1GB). > Glad that my Alpha has a 1 GB disk, so I used the auto defaults settings. This is exactly what & why I did it that way ;) Ahhhhh, laziness =) -Shawn > > Has a PR been filed for this one? > > Kees Jan > > ================================================ > You are only young once, > but you can stay immature all your life. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------- # ifconfig eth0.net "Shawn O'Shea" netmask 255.255.255.0 up # route add -net smtp shawn@eth0.net # route add -net http http://eth0.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 22 10:59:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cafes.net (mail.cafes.net [207.65.182.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D4237B4CF for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:59:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cafes.net (mail.cafes.net [207.65.182.25]) by mail.cafes.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28798 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:59:33 -0600 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:59:33 -0600 (CST) From: Mike Eldridge To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: 4.2RCs and alphas Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm still kinda iffy on what kind of alpha(s) I actually have. There are so many. Anyhow, the text that originally came with these alphas identified them as "DEC Alpha Multia AXP 166." When I had installed RedHat 4.2 on one of these alphas a couple of years ago, I was using the "noname" image. On Wilko's RC status page, I see both AXPpci33 (noname) and I see Multia/UDB, which is a bit confusing to me. I'd just love to know what kind of wierd ass alpha I have. :) On a related side-note, has there been any clustering with FreeBSD? These alphas that I have are dreadfully nasty mind-numbingly slow, so I'd love to cluster the pair together. Is Beowulf only for Linux? Mike Happy Turkey Day! :) ----------------------------------------------------- Save the whales. Feed the hungry. Free the mallocs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 22 11: 8: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D71037B4CF for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:07:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA37028; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:07:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eAMJ7tF50372; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:07:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:07:55 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Koster, K.J." Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RESOLVED - Re: loader issues... Message-ID: <20001122110754.B50255@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG References: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D7A39@l04.research.kpn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D7A39@l04.research.kpn.com>; from K.J.Koster@kpn.com on Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 11:36:46AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 11:36:46AM +0100, Koster, K.J. wrote: > This is a problem, because the easiest way to make the two-partition setup > is to create a swap partition of 2x memory size, and "the rest" for /. No "problem" but "pain in the ass". One must create swap first, take note of the free space, delete the swap partition, make the root partition with the size noted, and then re-make the swap partition. > Has a PR been filed for this one? Nope. I did not realize the same limitation did not exist on the i386. I thought it was something inherent to BSD. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 22 13:48: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE5337B4CF for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 13:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id eAMLlwh09138 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:48:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0.Beta1/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id eAMLlu536432; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:47:57 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.9.2) id eAMLlq523627; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:47:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:47:51 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Mike Eldridge Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.2RCs and alphas Message-ID: <20001122224751.A23460@cicely8.cicely.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from diz@cafes.net on Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 12:59:33PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 12:59:33PM -0600, Mike Eldridge wrote: > I'm still kinda iffy on what kind of alpha(s) I actually have. There are > so many. > > Anyhow, the text that originally came with these alphas identified them as > "DEC Alpha Multia AXP 166." > > When I had installed RedHat 4.2 on one of these alphas a couple of years > ago, I was using the "noname" image. > > On Wilko's RC status page, I see both AXPpci33 (noname) and I see > Multia/UDB, which is a bit confusing to me. I'd just love to know what > kind of wierd ass alpha I have. :) Take a lock in src/release/texts/alpha/HARDWARE.TXT It conaitns a very good description on all supported alphas. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 22 14:15:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB7137B4CF for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:15:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13yiAY-000FFr-00; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:15:10 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAMME8v02487; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 23:14:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 23:14:08 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Mike Eldridge Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2RCs and alphas Message-ID: <20001122231408.C2163@freebie.demon.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from diz@cafes.net on Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 12:59:33PM -0600 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 12:59:33PM -0600, Mike Eldridge wrote: > I'm still kinda iffy on what kind of alpha(s) I actually have. There are > so many. > > Anyhow, the text that originally came with these alphas identified them as > "DEC Alpha Multia AXP 166." Are these the small pizza boxes? If yes -> Multia > On Wilko's RC status page, I see both AXPpci33 (noname) and I see > Multia/UDB, which is a bit confusing to me. I'd just love to know what > kind of wierd ass alpha I have. :) Axppci33 is an OEM board, not a boxed system. -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 22 14:18: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CBB737B4C5 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:18:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA38463; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:18:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eAMMHwl52210; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:17:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:17:57 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mike Eldridge Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2RCs and alphas Message-ID: <20001122141757.A52147@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: alpha@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from diz@cafes.net on Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 12:59:33PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 12:59:33PM -0600, Mike Eldridge wrote: > On Wilko's RC status page, I see both AXPpci33 (noname) and I see > Multia/UDB, which is a bit confusing to me. I'd just love to know what > kind of wierd ass alpha I have. :) The Multia/UDB and AXPpci33 (noname) are practically the same from the OS's point of view. The AXPpci33 (noname) is an AT-sized motherboard that takes 486-style cache DIPs and offers a typical number of PCI and ISA slots. The Multia/UDB is a "space savings" complete machine. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 22 16: 8:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from venus.sunquest.com (venus.sunquest.COM [149.138.10.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4724737B479 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:08:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by venus.sunquest.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id eAN08NX00791 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:08:23 -0700 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:08:23 -0700 From: "Terry R. Friedrichsen" Message-Id: <200011230008.eAN08NX00791@venus.sunquest.com> To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: re: window manager probs Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just a quick note to inform those of you who've helped me with this and those of you who are interested: I was having problems with vtwm and the SVGA X server with an S3 ViRGE/DX 4 MB graphics board on FreeBSD/AXP 4.1 running XFree86 3.6.6. Pieces of screen were drawn in the wrong place, overlaid windows still showed through the upper window, etc. The "window manager" problems I was seeing are apparently due to the SVGA server; when I switched to the S3V server (which the Cards file says is "old" so I initially ignored it), all of the problems I was seeing disappeared. Thanks to all who pointed out what cards worked for them, so I was assured that I would get it right *eventually*, even with different hardware. Terry R. Friedrichsen terry@venus.sunquest.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 23 9:27: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from laurasia.com.au (lauras.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.93.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF03C37B4C5 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 09:26:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mike@localhost) by laurasia.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eANHQuc00887 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 01:26:56 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from mike) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 01:26:56 +0800 From: Michael Kennett To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: [OFFTOPIC] DEC 3000/500 for sale (Perth/Australia) Message-ID: <20001124012656.B854@alpha.laurasia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello All, [OFFTOPIC POST - please don't reply to the list] There is a DEC 3000/500 for sale at work. It is a good machine, supported by the BSDs. See src/release/texts/alpha/HARDWARE.TXT for details on the machine. Comes with a monitor (19" ?) - which is most probably useless, given that graphics heads are not really supported by the BSDs; 1GB SCSI harddrive; and AUI-RJ45 adapter. Currently, has OSF/1 installed, but the media for this will not be provided as a part of the sale. The machine is fairly heavy (~40Kg), so shipping is not an option. But if you live in Perth/Australia, it might be of interest to you. The sale is being done by bidding (closing next friday), with the current bid being AU$50 (about US$25!). If you are interested, please send me an email, and I'll forward your expression of interest to the chap that is running the sale (I'm not involved in the sale, and will not profit from it). Regards, Michael P.S. Sorry about the off-topic post, but I'd like this machine to go to a good home! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 24 1:40: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B567437B4D7 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 01:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id BAA56347; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 01:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 8FF5C37B479; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 01:36:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <20001124093644.8FF5C37B479@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 01:36:44 -0800 (PST) From: k.j.koster@kpn.com To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: alpha/23064: Alphas do not boot if `a' (/) partition isn't at a lower offset than `b' (swap) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 23064 >Category: alpha >Synopsis: Alphas do not boot if `a' (/) partition isn't at a lower offset than `b' (swap) >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-alpha >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Nov 24 01:40:01 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kees Jan Koster >Release: FreeBSD 4.2 Release >Organization: KPN Research >Environment: FreeBSD 4.2 Release (sorry, no Alpha to paste from. Besides, how can I paste from a machine that does not boot?) >Description: Alphas do not boot if `a' (/) partition isn't at a lower offset than `b' (swap). This problem is not seen on FreeBSD/x86. I have several machines that are configured in this way. >How-To-Repeat: In a single disk system, create a swap partition of 2x memory size first, , and then use "the rest" for /. Install, reboot, death. >Fix: No fix, sorry. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 24 9:18:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from 1upmc-msx1.isdip.upmc.edu (1upmc-msx1.isdip.upmc.edu [128.147.16.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E9F37B4CF for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:18:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 1upmc-msx1.isdip.upmc.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:17:58 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Person, Roderick" To: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org '" Subject: Machine Panic with 4.0 Alpha install Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:18:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0563A.7D2ED70C" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0563A.7D2ED70C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ok, I have got freebsd to get to the point of loading the Kern and MFS floppies and the graphical install come up. I have done this 3 times and at various point there after I get the error. machine panic possible kernel overflow. how do I get around this? Is it a know problem? I'm installing on a noname AXPpci33 running at 166M with 16 parity memory. No on board cache. I have a SCSI hard drive, but the CDROM is a IDE and is not getting picked up. I was attempting to install via ppp. I'm on my way to look for a SCSI CDROM, should I pick up anything else? TIA Rod..... ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0563A.7D2ED70C Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Machine Panic with 4.0 Alpha install

Ok,

I have got freebsd to get to the point of loading the = Kern and MFS floppies and the graphical install come up. I have done = this 3 times and at various point there after I get the = error.

          &nb= sp;  machine panic possible kernel overflow.

how do I get around this? Is it a know = problem?

I'm installing on a noname AXPpci33 running at 166M = with 16 parity memory. No on board cache. I have a SCSI hard drive, but = the CDROM is a IDE and is not getting picked up. I was attempting to = install via ppp.

I'm on my way to look for a SCSI CDROM, should I pick = up anything else?

TIA

Rod.....

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0563A.7D2ED70C-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 24 13:42:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cafes.net (mail.cafes.net [207.65.182.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2522437B479 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:42:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cafes.net (mail.cafes.net [207.65.182.25]) by mail.cafes.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA31080; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:42:13 -0600 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:42:13 -0600 (CST) From: Mike Eldridge To: "Person, Roderick" Cc: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org '" Subject: Re: Machine Panic with 4.0 Alpha install In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think you should be good with a SCSI CD-ROM, provided the freebsd cd you have is bootable. Of course, who is to say that the machine won't kernel panic again (besides the development team =P)? Mike ----------------------------------------------------- Save the whales. Feed the hungry. Free the mallocs. On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Person, Roderick wrote: > Ok, > > I have got freebsd to get to the point of loading the Kern and MFS floppies > and the graphical install come up. I have done this 3 times and at various > point there after I get the error. > > machine panic possible kernel overflow. > > how do I get around this? Is it a know problem? > > I'm installing on a noname AXPpci33 running at 166M with 16 parity memory. > No on board cache. I have a SCSI hard drive, but the CDROM is a IDE and is > not getting picked up. I was attempting to install via ppp. > > I'm on my way to look for a SCSI CDROM, should I pick up anything else? > > TIA > > Rod..... > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 24 18:59:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CFB37B4E5 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:59:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id eAP2xgR18508 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Sat, 25 Nov 2000 03:59:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0.Beta1/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id eAP2xeM47331; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 03:59:44 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.9.2) id eAP2xdf00461; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 03:59:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 03:59:38 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: "Person, Roderick" Cc: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org '" Subject: Re: Machine Panic with 4.0 Alpha install Message-ID: <20001125035938.A438@cicely8.cicely.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from personrp@ccbh.com on Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 12:18:07PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 12:18:07PM -0500, Person, Roderick wrote: > Ok, > > I have got freebsd to get to the point of loading the Kern and MFS floppies > and the graphical install come up. I have done this 3 times and at various > point there after I get the error. > > machine panic possible kernel overflow. > > how do I get around this? Is it a know problem? > > I'm installing on a noname AXPpci33 running at 166M with 16 parity memory. > No on board cache. I have a SCSI hard drive, but the CDROM is a IDE and is > not getting picked up. I was attempting to install via ppp. > > I'm on my way to look for a SCSI CDROM, should I pick up anything else? I wouldn't be surprised if 16Meg is to low. 32M is fine for this board as it's not very fast anyway. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 25 1:14:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FA437B4C5 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 01:14:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13zbPt-00052q-00; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 09:14:41 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAP9Dji65348; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 10:13:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 10:13:45 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Bernd Walter Cc: "Person, Roderick" , "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org '" Subject: Re: Machine Panic with 4.0 Alpha install Message-ID: <20001125101345.A65328@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20001125035938.A438@cicely8.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20001125035938.A438@cicely8.cicely.de>; from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de on Sat, Nov 25, 2000 at 03:59:38AM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 25, 2000 at 03:59:38AM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 12:18:07PM -0500, Person, Roderick wrote: > > Ok, > > > > I have got freebsd to get to the point of loading the Kern and MFS floppies > > and the graphical install come up. I have done this 3 times and at various > > point there after I get the error. > > > > machine panic possible kernel overflow. > > > > how do I get around this? Is it a know problem? > > > > I'm installing on a noname AXPpci33 running at 166M with 16 parity memory. > > No on board cache. I have a SCSI hard drive, but the CDROM is a IDE and is > > not getting picked up. I was attempting to install via ppp. > > > > I'm on my way to look for a SCSI CDROM, should I pick up anything else? > > I wouldn't be surprised if 16Meg is to low. > 32M is fine for this board as it's not very fast anyway. No, I have run 4.x on a 16Mb Multia. Slow as molasses, 32Mb makes it 2x faster. But it does run. -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 25 4:11:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D0737B479 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 04:11:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id eAPCBJQ08746 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Sat, 25 Nov 2000 13:11:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0.Beta1/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id eAPCBIM48271; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 13:11:21 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.9.2) id eAPCBIh00941; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 13:11:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 13:11:17 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Wilko Bulte Cc: "Person, Roderick" , "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org '" Subject: Re: Machine Panic with 4.0 Alpha install Message-ID: <20001125131116.A900@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <20001125035938.A438@cicely8.cicely.de> <20001125101345.A65328@freebie.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20001125101345.A65328@freebie.demon.nl>; from wkb@freebie.demon.nl on Sat, Nov 25, 2000 at 10:13:45AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 25, 2000 at 10:13:45AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > No, I have run 4.x on a 16Mb Multia. Slow as molasses, 32Mb makes > it 2x faster. But it does run. The question is more if it can be installed with 16M? We have the md and a big kernel. Additionaly we don't have a swappartition on the first steps. Not to forget that the ppp installation might want a big piece too. Maybe it's not impossible to install with 16M but on a hard edge. Just guessing. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 25 5:36: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from peorth.iteration.net (peorth.iteration.net [208.190.180.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB54537B4C5 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 05:36:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by peorth.iteration.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A368657311; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 07:36:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 07:36:36 -0600 From: "Michael C . Wu" To: Mike Eldridge Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2RCs and alphas Message-ID: <20001125073636.B95906@peorth.iteration.net> Reply-To: "Michael C . Wu" Mail-Followup-To: "Michael C . Wu" , Mike Eldridge , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from diz@cafes.net on Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 12:59:33PM -0600 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5025 F691 F943 8128 48A8 5025 77CE 29C5 8FA1 2E20 X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x8FA12E20 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 12:59:33PM -0600, Mike Eldridge scribbled: | On a related side-note, has there been any clustering with FreeBSD? These | alphas that I have are dreadfully nasty mind-numbingly slow, so I'd love | to cluster the pair together. Is Beowulf only for Linux? No. Beowulf is not a linux only thing. And unless you have applications that were coded with clusterings/parallel processing in mind, the Beowulf cluster won't do you any good. -- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | keichii@peorth.iteration.net | keichii@bsdconspiracy.net | | http://peorth.iteration.net/~keichii | Yes, BSD is a conspiracy. | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 25 6: 2:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D735537B4CF for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 06:02:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA55217 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 06:02:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eAPE2Dw80297 for alpha@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 06:02:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 06:02:11 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: -current Binutils on Alpha platform build known broken Message-ID: <20001125060211.A80285@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've broken the Alpha build, but cannot fix it w/o the help of a cvsmeister. So please be patient. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 25 10:11:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 312F337B479 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 10:11:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13zjmz-0007U4-00; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 18:11:05 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAPIA9O66677; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 19:10:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 19:10:09 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Bernd Walter Cc: "Person, Roderick" , "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org '" Subject: Re: Machine Panic with 4.0 Alpha install Message-ID: <20001125191009.C66605@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20001125035938.A438@cicely8.cicely.de> <20001125101345.A65328@freebie.demon.nl> <20001125131116.A900@cicely8.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20001125131116.A900@cicely8.cicely.de>; from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de on Sat, Nov 25, 2000 at 01:11:17PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 25, 2000 at 01:11:17PM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Sat, Nov 25, 2000 at 10:13:45AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > No, I have run 4.x on a 16Mb Multia. Slow as molasses, 32Mb makes > > it 2x faster. But it does run. > > The question is more if it can be installed with 16M? > We have the md and a big kernel. I think 'yes'. I think I tried 4.2RC1 on a 16Mb Multia and don't remember problems. Not that I like 16Mb on Alpha. > Additionaly we don't have a swappartition on the first steps. > Not to forget that the ppp installation might want a big piece too. In my case it was a CDROM. > Maybe it's not impossible to install with 16M but on a hard edge. > Just guessing. Given some time I'll try to see what happens with 16Mb -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 25 10:54: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883D737B4CF for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 10:54:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id eAPIs1K28638 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK) for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 19:54:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0.Beta1/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id eAPIs3M49114 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 19:54:03 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.9.2) id eAPIs3D40800 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 19:54:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 19:34:30 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Patch for current on LCA based alphas Message-ID: <20001125193430.A40717@cicely8.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org LCA systems doesn't like probing after PCI slot 19. Probing slot 20 panics the system. The following patch made it into single user mode on my AXPpci33. I asume it will also work on multias. I can't tell more as the tested system is a 4.1-RELEASE and I need to update the world before further testing. Index: lca_pci.c =================================================================== RCS file: /vol/cvs/FreeBSD/src/sys/alpha/pci/lca_pci.c,v retrieving revision 1.7 diff -u -r1.7 lca_pci.c --- lca_pci.c 2000/08/31 16:19:27 1.7 +++ lca_pci.c 2000/11/25 18:23:26 @@ -76,7 +76,7 @@ static int lca_pcib_maxslots(device_t dev) { - return 31; + return 19; } #define LCA_CFGOFF(b, s, f, r) \ -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 25 13:22:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dns1.micahtek.com (unknown [198.160.140.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CEFE37B479 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 13:22:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from micahtek.com (IDENT:root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dns1.micahtek.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12689 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 15:25:19 -0600 Message-ID: <3A20D7C8.FB5D7670@micahtek.com> Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 03:28:40 -0600 From: snerfu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: booting fbsd with the alpha milo loader? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was wondering if it is possible to boot fbsd with the alpha milo loader. I have an alpha XL 300 which doesnt seem to support anything but arc firmware with no upgrade. My only chance is to try and get fbsd to run on the milo loader that i used with the arc firmware. if you can find out anything, please let me know...thanks alot. snerfu snerfu@micahtek.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 25 15:29: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3858837B479 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 15:29:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA56817 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 15:29:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eAPNSxS09240 for alpha@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 15:28:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 15:28:58 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current Binutils on Alpha platform build known broken Message-ID: <20001125152858.E2493@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20001125060211.A80285@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001125060211.A80285@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@freebsd.org on Sat, Nov 25, 2000 at 06:02:11AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 25, 2000 at 06:02:11AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > I've broken the Alpha build, but cannot fix it w/o the help of a > cvsmeister. So please be patient. It is fixed now. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 25 16:45: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from eel.radicalmedia.com (eel.radicalmedia.com [204.254.246.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4296537B4C5 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 16:45:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from phiber@localhost) by eel.radicalmedia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA00554 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 19:45:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 19:45:02 -0500 From: Mark Abene To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: IDE CD-R? Message-ID: <20001125194502.G15277@radicalmedia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can anyone recommend a good IDE CD-R? I plan on using one on my PC164 running 4.1-RELEASE. Recommendations on tried-and-true models would be welcome. Thanks! -Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 25 16:51:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from eel.radicalmedia.com (eel.radicalmedia.com [204.254.246.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B1337B4CF for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 16:51:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from phiber@localhost) by eel.radicalmedia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA00650; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 19:51:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 19:51:16 -0500 From: Mark Abene To: Bernd Walter Cc: Yoriaki FUJIMORI , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: J30 settings for AlphaPC164/500 Message-ID: <20001125195116.H15277@radicalmedia.com> References: <200011081040.TAA05972@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> <20001108131322.A2030@cicely5.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <20001108131322.A2030@cicely5.cicely.de>; from Bernd Walter on Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 01:13:22PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In my experience, you should make sure that IRQ0 thru IRQ3 are all empty, setting a ratio of "15", and you need to install a 50MHz crystal. That should do it. Cheers, -Mark On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 01:13:22PM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 07:40:54PM +0000, Yoriaki FUJIMORI wrote: > > Dear folks, > > Recently I got a second-hand AlphaPC164/500MHz motherboard. > > It was almost a junk, but anyway I found it works with SRM. > > But, I cannot figure out how to set the J30 jumpers for > > 500MHz cpu clock---IRQ0,IRQ1,IRQ2 and IRQ3. > > # I have got a manual for 433MHz AlphaPC164. So, I could configure > > the jumpers for 433MHz (ratio 13). > > > > I guess there should be a possibility for setting ratio 14 or 15. > > Can some kind soul send me the information or pointers for that? > > Thank you for your attention. > > Best wishes, > > Yoriaki Fujimori > > The documentation is missleading as you need to exchange the Oscilator > which need to have the 10th of the CPU clock. > I never saw that the Jumpers have any functionality. > Originally you get a set of oscilators with the board. > > -- > B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de > ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message