From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Apr 8 0:47:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CD537B423; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 00:47:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id jfvaaaaa for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 17:47:55 +1000 Message-ID: <3AD01873.E5588838@quake.com.au> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 17:51:15 +1000 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: nvidia cards (3D Acceleration) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hiyas, I am wondering about support for 3D accelerators like the GeForce and other nvidia cards under FreeBSD... There are Linux drivers for these cards, but no ports it seems to FreeBSD (maybe they are too linux specific?), and I cant seem to find out anything about getting 3D acceleration working with these cards! I guess this might be more of an XFree86 question, but im not sure... I have heard that there is no or very little OpenGL support for FreeBSD... Anyway, any tips, info or pointers would be greatly appreciated :) Thanks! Kal. P.S. Sorry if this is to the wrong list or duplicated between lists but Im not quite sure where this mail belongs... Oh and please CC replies to my e-mail (kaltorak@quake.com.au) because I may not be subscribed to your list! Thanks again!!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Apr 8 1:40:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D8A37B422 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 01:40:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) id f388e8j01615; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:40:08 +0200 (MET DST) >Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f388We967339; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:32:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:32:40 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: joeo@cracktown.com Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, xpert@xfree86.org Subject: Re: which pci 3d accelerator card to choose for XFree86-4 Message-ID: <20010408103240.B65525@titan.klemm.gtn.com> References: <20010407183738.A14928@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from joeo@cracktown.com on Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 03:22:43PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-RC SMP X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 03:22:43PM -0400, joeo@cracktown.com wrote: > For a PCI bus 3D card that mostly works today on FreeBSD and uses > XFree86-4.0.x pick up a PCI bus Voodoo4. >=20 > One of a couple of different web sites that talk about getting it up and > running is at... > http://www.teleport.com/~anholt/devel/dri/ >=20 > You could also try asking around on "freebsd-multimedia" >=20 > The only other card that had some working 3D support for FreeBSD in > XF4.0.2 was the G400, but the DMA mechanisms that the DRI architecture > uses in that version of XFree86 pretty much require that it be an AGP > card. Thanks for that useful information. But what applications use dri under X-Windows ... X-Windows itself, gnome, ??? I'm usually not the typical Quake gamer under FreeBSD ;-)) Concerning games ... I'd play them only under Windows. But only in rare cases ( 3x per year ;-) because I'm lacking the time and am the opineon that the market is currently missing good games with a good mixture out of action, role, strategy ... So a more specific question arises, what card would be faster under Windows for games and under X11 with normal applications like Netscape, gimp, gnome based (gtp, imlib) applications. A Voodoo4 based or a GeForce 2 MX card. Currently I could get a 3dfx Voodoo4 4500 bulk for DM 179 ( ~$90) 3dfx Voodoo4 4500 for DM 199 ( ~$100) Creative GeForce2 MX (Retail) for DM 299 ( ~$150) So, are the ~$50 more for the GeForce 2 card worth the money concerning game performance under Windows (98, ME, 2000) and normal X11 Applications ? My first preference is the use under FreeBSD / Xfree86 My second preference is to play some games under my old Tyan Titan Pro SMP board with 2 Pentium Pro CPUS (2 x 200 MHz) which doesn't have MMX support, so *if* I play a game under Win ME or Win2000 it should be as fast as possible since the CPUs are not the fastest and typical game platforms (98, ME) support only one CPU. Unix is not a gaming platform for me. There I would prefer driver stability and that opaque Window movements are quick without lagging. Andreas /// --=20 Andreas Klemm - Powered by FreeBSD 4.2 SMP Need a magic printfilter today ? -> http://www.apsfilter.org/ --8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Weitere Infos: siehe http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE60CInd3o+lGxvbLoRAgd7AKCC+43I2zffXbyq2HZQRaC7M5mnXgCfZZXx e8PDW3+DVZWVt64nmFuvCfY= =zMhL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Apr 8 1:40:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186C637B423 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 01:40:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) id f388e7901609; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:40:07 +0200 (MET DST) >Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3886GA66063; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:06:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:06:16 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: Dr Andrew C Aitchison Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, xpert@xfree86.org Subject: Re: [Xpert]which pci 3d accelerator card to choose for XFree86-4 Message-ID: <20010408100616.A65525@titan.klemm.gtn.com> References: <20010407183738.A14928@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from A.C.Aitchison@dpmms.cam.ac.uk on Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 06:34:00PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-RC SMP X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 06:34:00PM +0100, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote: > On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Andreas Klemm wrote: >=20 > > Hi ! > >=20 > > I'm looking for a fast *PCI* graphic adapter with 32 MB memory > > for my old SMP machine which only has a PCI bus. >=20 > The 3dLabs glint Oxygen VX1 that came with my SGI flat panel is PCI, > and has 32MB memory. As well as the digital video connector, it has a > standard VGA output, which I have verified works with XFree86. >=20 > I haven't done any timing tests with it, but I believe that 3d > acceleration is not yet supported, so you might not call it fast. Thanks for information. But I'd like to use chipsets from nVidia (i.e. GeForce 2) or 3Dfx. Concerning hardware acceleration it seems to me, that its supported with some chipsets, look what the driver status document tells=20 concerning glint driver and acceleration. 3Dlabs =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3.3.6: Support (including acceleration) for GLINT 500TX (with IBM RGB526 ramdac), GLINT MX plus Delta or Gamma (with IBM RGB526 and RGB640 ramdacs), Permedia with IBM RGB526 RAMDAC, and Permedia 2, 2a, 2v is provided by the XF86_3DLabs server. 4.0.3: Support (including acceleration) for Permedia, Permedia 2, 2v, (and 2a?), Permedia 3, GLINT 500TX, GLINT MX, GLINT Gamma, and GLINT Delta coproc is provided by the "glint" driver. Summary: All hardware supported in 3.3.6 is also supported in 4.0.3. The Permedia 3 is only supported in 4.0.3. What XFree86 version do you exactly use ?? Maybe its worth an upgrade ? Andreas /// --=20 Andreas Klemm - Powered by FreeBSD 4.2 SMP Need a magic printfilter today ? -> http://www.apsfilter.org/ --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Weitere Infos: siehe http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE60Bv3d3o+lGxvbLoRAnkYAKC2VOYPIY1gW4YgVGClTH+bWa4+kgCgm3bN 0mXvdITSeDNvPZZU+6iMpK0= =bYOu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Apr 8 2:25:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from rhea.dpmms.cam.ac.uk (smtp.dpmms.cam.ac.uk [131.111.24.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80F037B422; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 02:25:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from a.c.aitchison@dpmms.cam.ac.uk) Received: from [131.111.24.245] (helo=harrier.dpmms.cam.ac.uk ident=exim) by rhea.dpmms.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #3) id 14mBRm-0007Hr-00; Sun, 08 Apr 2001 10:25:26 +0100 Received: from werdna (helo=localhost) by harrier.dpmms.cam.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 3.01 #2) id 14mBRl-0003tE-00; Sun, 08 Apr 2001 10:25:25 +0100 Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:25:25 +0100 (BST) From: Dr Andrew C Aitchison To: Andreas Klemm Cc: joeo@cracktown.com, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, xpert@xfree86.org Subject: Re: [Xpert]Re: which pci 3d accelerator card to choose for XFree86-4 In-Reply-To: <20010408103240.B65525@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanner: exiscan *14mBRm-0007Hr-00*yTK7iBjqV6g* http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/ Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, Andreas Klemm wrote: > Thanks for that useful information. > > But what applications use dri under X-Windows ... > X-Windows itself, gnome, ??? I'm usually not the typical > Quake gamer under FreeBSD ;-)) DRI is the way that most[1] XFree86 drivers implement OpenGL and hence 3D acceleration[2]. Applications shouldn' care whether 3D acceleration uses DRI or something else; they should just link with libGL.so [3]. [1] nVidia's closed XFree86 drivers use their own kernel drivers instead of DRI. I don't know what other closed drivers do. [2] XFree86 also supports PEX5, the Phigs-based 3D protocol, but I'm not aware of any hardware acceleration, so 3D on XFree86 essentially means OpenGL. [3] I don't play games, so don't know whether this is the reality, but at least on Linux http://oss.sgi.com/projects/ogl-sample/ABI/ suggests that it is the correct way to use OpenGL. > Unix is not a gaming platform for me. There I would prefer driver > stability and that opaque Window movements are quick without lagging. You shouldn't need 3D acceleration for opaque Window movements. If you want a decent, stable driver under FreeBSD, and only need 3D under windows, I don't think that you will have much problem with any supported cards. The most likely problem is code rot. As AGP domination completes, PCI support will begin to break and bugs will take longer to spot and to fix. -- Dr. Andrew C. Aitchison Computer Officer, DPMMS, Cambridge A.C.Aitchison@dpmms.cam.ac.uk http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~werdna To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Apr 8 7: 2: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mother.ludd.luth.se (mother.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4926F37B424 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 07:01:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pantzer@ludd.luth.se) Received: from speedy.ludd.luth.se (speedy.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.164]) by mother.ludd.luth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01370; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 16:01:47 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200104081401.QAA01370@mother.ludd.luth.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Joseph Gleason" Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Server MB suggestions? In-Reply-To: Message from "Joseph Gleason" of "Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:09:57 CDT." <005801c0b652$429f8d20$dc02010a@fireduck.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 15:58:27 +0200 From: Mattias Pantzare Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Some of the 3ware products will take 8 drives. If you stock it with 75gb > drives that is 600gb. If you need more than that, I guess this probably > isn't the solution for you. That gives you many Mb, but not high performance. 9Gb disks can be to big for some applications. > The performance on with these sort of setups are really good at a great > price. > > # dd if=/dev/twed1 of=/dev/null bs=32k count=40960 > 40960+0 records in > 40960+0 records out > 1342177280 bytes transferred in 37.895167 secs (35418165 bytes/sec) > > This is a fairly heavily loaded system using a 3ware card for RAID-10 and > IBM 24GB drives (7200 ata66 I think). > This is not the performance, this is the transfer rate. That is almost never a problem, seek times is. But that is hard to measure, so people are only looking at transfer rates. SCSI vs IDE till start to be different if you have a lot of simultaneous io (If the disk are equal apart from the interface). This may have changed on the newest disks an controllers, provided that the OS has support for tagged queuing on IDE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Apr 8 12:51:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from asmodean.nks.net (asmodean.nks.net [216.139.201.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA58B37B422; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 12:51:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joeo@cracktown.com) Received: from localhost (joeo@localhost) by asmodean.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13380; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 15:51:20 -0400 Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 15:51:20 -0400 (EDT) From: X-Sender: To: Andreas Klemm Cc: Subject: Re: which pci 3d accelerator card to choose for XFree86-4 In-Reply-To: <20010408103240.B65525@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org (trimmed "xpert" from the CC list) On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, Andreas Klemm wrote: > > But what applications use dri under X-Windows ... > X-Windows itself, gnome, ??? I'm usually not the typical > Quake gamer under FreeBSD ;-)) > > Concerning games ... I'd play them only under Windows. In this case grab the Nvidia product or an ATI product. 3DFX is dead, its very unlikley that DirectX 's coming iterations will support the V4/5 or that any bugs discovered with the windows drivers for the V4/5 will get fixed. That said pretty much any OpenGL based game that runs under Linux or that Unix'y source code is available for can either run under emulation or be ported. So far I've seen quake3 and UT for linux both work under emulation with the DRI. I haven't checked any of the productivty stuff like "blender". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 9 16:32: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from alopex.vulpes.net (firewall.vulpes.net [64.220.151.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A620337B42C; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:32:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from francisco@vulpes.net) Received: from fox by alopex.vulpes.net with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14ml8a-0009Zb-00; Mon, 09 Apr 2001 16:32:00 -0700 Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:31:59 -0700 From: J C Doran To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: USB serial/parallel port replicators Message-ID: <20010409163159.C36318@vulpes.net> Reply-To: fox-freebsd@vulpes.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a Toshiba 2805-S201 running 4.2-STABLE and it's all running pretty well (apart from the built-in modem being a winmodem, I'm guessing). However, I have a few regular serial devices that I'd still like to be able to connect to it (palm cradle, for example) but it only has a couple of USB ports. I've seen USB port replicators sold that provide the regular 9 and 25 pin serial ports, but even after much searching around, I can't find any information on a) if they even work with freebsd, and if they do b) how they work with freebsd (ie, how do you refer to the serial ports on it) Has anyone done this at all? Thanks in advance, -- J C Doran fox@vulpes.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 9 18:50:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from catastrophe.net (ss189-189.dvsn-chi-il.outlook.net [208.45.189.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1937C37B422 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 18:50:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eric@catastrophe.net) Received: (qmail 19900 invoked by uid 1002); 10 Apr 2001 01:50:39 -0000 Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:50:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Reply-To: To: Message-ID: Organization: http://www.catastrophe.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was just curious to know - I have a pretty tight rack case and the internal SCSI cable needs to be twisted quite a bit. Are there any bad things that can happen (besides the obvious). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 10 11:12:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from henny.webweaving.org (gate.qubesoft.com [212.113.16.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846BA37B422; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:12:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from n_hibma@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by henny.webweaving.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3AICgr16982; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:12:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from n_hibma@FreeBSD.ORG) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:12:42 +0100 (BST) From: X-X-Sender: To: J C Doran Cc: , Subject: Re: USB serial/parallel port replicators In-Reply-To: <20010409163159.C36318@vulpes.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The parallel port ones do work, but not the serial port ones. Nick On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, J C Doran wrote: > I have a Toshiba 2805-S201 running 4.2-STABLE and it's all running pretty > well (apart from the built-in modem being a winmodem, I'm guessing). > > However, I have a few regular serial devices that I'd still like to be > able to connect to it (palm cradle, for example) but it only has a couple > of USB ports. I've seen USB port replicators sold that provide the regular > 9 and 25 pin serial ports, but even after much searching around, I can't > find any information on a) if they even work with freebsd, and if they do > b) how they work with freebsd (ie, how do you refer to the serial ports on > it) > > Has anyone done this at all? > > Thanks in advance, > -- > J C Doran > fox@vulpes.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > -- The USB for FreeBSD project. n_hibma@FreeBSD.ORG http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/usb/usb.pl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 10 16:16:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from eui1smtp.euskaltel.es (eui1smtp.euskaltel.es [212.55.8.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EED937B625 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:16:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from csoler@euskalnet.net) Received: from euskalnet.net ([212.55.8.5]) by eui1smtp.euskaltel.es (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GBLNZQ04.A8V for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 01:31:02 +0200 From: To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <2d1782d3dc.2d3dc2d178@euskalnet.net> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:19:48 +0100 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: es Subject: silo overflow X-Accept-Language: es Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--710a708243dc23d0" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----710a708243dc23d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=2C I have a problem with the serial port and no idea about how to solve it =3A-) Each time I launch a ppp-connection via modem=2C in the console screen appear the following messages=3A Apr 10 16=3A45=3A34 gudu /kernel=3A sio0=3A 1 more silo overflow (total 1= ) Apr 10 16=3A45=3A34 gudu /kernel=3A sio0=3A 1 more silo overflow (total 1= ) Apr 10 16=3A45=3A34 gudu /kernel=3A sio0=3A 1 more silo overflow (total 2= ) Apr 10 16=3A45=3A34 gudu /kernel=3A sio0=3A 1 more silo overflow (total 2= ) Apr 10 16=3A45=3A34 gudu /kernel=3A sio0=3A 1 more silo overflow (total 2= ) Apr 10 16=3A45=3A34 gudu /kernel=3A sio0=3A 1 more silo overflow (total 3= ) Apr 10 16=3A45=3A34 gudu /kernel=3A sio0=3A 1 more silo overflow (total 3= ) In the =22sio=22 man page I read it could be a problem with the interrupt handler=2C but I don=27t know how it could be resolved=2E Has anybody had any similar problem=3F I attach the dmesg output=2C in case somebody could take a look=2E Thanks in advance for your time=2E Best regards=2C C=E9sar Soler=2E ----710a708243dc23d0 Content-Type: application/x-unknown-content-type-log_auto_file Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="dmesg.log" 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Apr 2001 00:34:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@kgv.net) Received: (qmail 21092 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2001 07:34:24 -0000 Received: from student.kgv.edu.hk (HELO kgv.net) (152.101.128.2) by lion.kgv.edu.hk with SMTP; 11 Apr 2001 07:34:24 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 07:34:24 -0000 To: Subject: Tigon ti driver and atalk From: "John Ryan" X-Mailer: TWIG 2.6.2 Reply-To: john@kgv.net Message-Id: <20010411073426.7F6B737B422@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've replaced my 100Mbit ethernet with a 3Com 985 Tigon card and now I don't get any reference to atalk when I do an ifconfig ti0. Ie: bash-2.03$ ifconfig ti0 ti0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 10.1.0.2 netmask 0xffff0000 broadcast 10.1.255.255 inet6 fe80::260:8ff:fef6:c0e7%ti0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 ether 00:60:08:f6:c0:e7 media: autoselect (1000baseSX ) status: active supported media: autoselect 1000baseSX 1000baseSX My 100Mbit card gave me: bash-2.03$ ifconfig fxp0 fxp0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 10.1.0.2 netmask 0xffff0000 broadcast 10.1.255.255 inet6 fe80::2e0:18ff:fe04:f017%fxp0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 atalk 65280.117 range 0-65534 phase 2 broadcast 0.255 ether 00:e0:18:04:f0:17 media: autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UT I have read of other people having the same problem. Is there any plan to incorporate support for atalk in these cards? Thanks John Ryan KGV School Hong Kong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 11 9: 5:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from anaconda.acceleratedweb.net (anaconda.acceleratedweb.net [209.51.164.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A64E737B423 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:05:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: (qmail 88129 invoked by uid 106); 11 Apr 2001 16:05:14 -0000 Received: from 66-65-36-21.nyc.rr.com (HELO sharky) (66.65.36.21) by anaconda.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2001 16:05:14 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 12:09:53 -0400 Reply-To: "Simon" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RAID 5 Message-Id: <20010411160513.A64E737B423@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone know if it's ok to mix drives with different amount of cache in RAID-5 ? Thanks, Simon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 11 11:24:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.via-net-works.net.ar (ns1.via-net-works.net.ar [200.10.100.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F035837B422 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 11:24:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpscha@ns1.via-net-works.net.ar) Received: (from fpscha@localhost) by ns1.via-net-works.net.ar (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA98589 for hardware@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:26:54 -0300 (ART) From: Fernando Schapachnik Message-Id: <200104111826.PAA98589@ns1.via-net-works.net.ar> Subject: Status of Compaq SmartArray Controllers To: hardware@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:26:54 -0300 (ART) Reply-To: Fernando Schapachnik X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL82 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'd like to know if there is a list somewhere with all the supported Compaq SmartArray controllers. I missed to find them on the 4.2-R release notes. TIA for any pointer! Fernando P. Schapachnik Planificación de red y tecnología VIA NET.WORKS ARGENTINA S.A. fschapachnik@vianetworks.com.ar Tel.: (54-11) 4323-3381 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 11 11:43: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from edwin.mounet.com (edwin.mounet.com [216.145.76.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F16DA37B423 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 11:42:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hornback@wireco.net) Received: (qmail 20051 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2001 18:39:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tomcat) (216.145.67.47) by mounet.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2001 18:39:13 -0000 From: "Andrew C. Hornback" To: "Fernando Schapachnik" Cc: "FreeBSD Hardware" Subject: RE: Status of Compaq SmartArray Controllers Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 14:42:18 -0400 Message-ID: <002001c0c2b7$230f8fc0$0e00000a@tomcat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: <200104111826.PAA98589@ns1.via-net-works.net.ar> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I know for a fact that the SMART2/P controller is supported, as I'm = using one right now. There are other models supported, but I don't have = a list of them. Mike Smith's page should be the best guide for them, = alas I don't have the URL handy. --- Andy > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Fernando > Schapachnik > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 2:27 PM > To: hardware@freebsd.org > Subject: Status of Compaq SmartArray Controllers >=20 >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I'd like to know if there is a list somewhere with all the > supported Compaq SmartArray controllers. I missed to find them on the > 4.2-R release notes. >=20 > TIA for any pointer! >=20 >=20 > Fernando P. Schapachnik > Planificaci=F3n de red y tecnolog=EDa > VIA NET.WORKS ARGENTINA S.A. > fschapachnik@vianetworks.com.ar > Tel.: (54-11) 4323-3381 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 11 12:27: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.via-net-works.net.ar (ns1.via-net-works.net.ar [200.10.100.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9E437B423 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 12:27:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpscha@ns1.via-net-works.net.ar) Received: (from fpscha@localhost) by ns1.via-net-works.net.ar (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA38656; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:28:35 -0300 (ART) From: Fernando Schapachnik Message-Id: <200104111928.QAA38656@ns1.via-net-works.net.ar> Subject: Re: Status of Compaq SmartArray Controllers In-Reply-To: <002001c0c2b7$230f8fc0$0e00000a@tomcat> "from Andrew C. Hornback at Apr 11, 2001 02:42:18 pm" To: "Andrew C. Hornback" Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:28:35 -0300 (ART) Cc: Fernando Schapachnik , FreeBSD Hardware Reply-To: Fernando Schapachnik X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL82 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org En un mensaje anterior, Andrew C. Hornback escribió: > I know for a fact that the SMART2/P controller is supported, as I'm using one right now. There are other models supported, but I don't have a list of them. Mike Smith's page should be the best guide for them, alas I don't have the URL handy. Thanks. His home page states that Mathew Dodd and Jonathan Lemon handle Compaq drivers, but theirs doesn't contain any info. Regards. Fernando P. Schapachnik Planificación de red y tecnología VIA NET.WORKS ARGENTINA S.A. fschapachnik@vianetworks.com.ar Tel.: (54-11) 4323-3381 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 11 18:41:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from west.lustig.com (west.lustig.com [209.157.26.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 927E637B42C for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 18:41:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from barry@lustig.com) Received: (qmail 23353 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2001 01:41:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lustig.com) (64.122.5.36) by west.lustig.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 2001 01:41:35 -0000 Message-ID: <3AD507A7.57B3A824@lustig.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:40:55 -0400 From: Barry Lustig Organization: Barry Lustig & Associates, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Max Memory in Vaio z505LE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone know if the 192MB limit in the z505le is from a hardware limitation on the motherboard? Now that laptop sized 256MB and 512MB modules are available I was wondering if I could put one into my machine. barry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 11 18:52:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from borg-cube.com (226-193.adsl2.netlojix.net [207.71.226.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C587837B422; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 18:51:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dburr@borg-cube.com) Received: from borg-cube.com (dburr@borg-cube.com [207.71.226.193]) by borg-cube.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3C1ptA80478; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 18:51:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dburr@borg-cube.com) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 18:51:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Donald Burr of Borg To: FreeBSD Questions Cc: FreeBSD Hardware Subject: Help: ISA->PCMCIA adapter no longer works after switching to SMP box Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How are you gentlemen !! I've got a problem that has me tearing my hair out in huge clumps, and I am rapidly losing my (already tenuous as it is) grip on sanity here. Please, someone save me from the abyss!!! I have a FreeBSD box that acts as a NAT router for my DSL connection, so that any of my computers hooked up to the ethernet, or any of my friends' laptops with WaveLAN cards, can use my DSL connection. Basically something like this: /----------> Ethernet network (running natd) | IP; 192.168.0.x The Internet <--------> FreeBSD box <--------| External IP: x.x.x.x | \----------> WaveLAN IP: 192.168.1.x This worked great for a long time, through many versions of FreeBSD. BUT... then I went and upgraded my FreeBSD NAT box to a SMP based system (Tyan S1832 motherboard, dual Pentium II 400Mhz). Now, although Ethernet still works beautifully, WaveLAN does NOT work at all!!!!!! Here is some description of my hardware: Note that ALL of the hardware is exactly the same between both configurations: the only differences are that I replaced the IDE's with SCSI drives, and of course the new dual processor motherboard and two CPU's. Old, Working Configuration New, Broken Configuration ========================== ========================= EPoX MVP4A motherboard Tyan S1833DL Dual Slot 1 mobo AMD K6-2/500 Mhz CPU 2 x Intel Pentium II 400Mhz CPUs 128 MB PC100 SDRAM 128 MB PC100 SDRAM 15 GB IBM Deskstar Ultra33 IDE HD 2 x IBM 9.1 GB Ultra2 LVD SCSI Realtek NE2000 clone 10Mbit card (to DSL) Realtek NE2000 clone 10Mb (to DSL) Realtek 8139 10/100Mbit enet (to home net) Realtek 8139 10/100Mbit (home net) Greystone Outback ISA->PCMCIA adapter Greystone Outback ISA->PCMCIA (uses Cirrus PD672x chipset/driver) (uses Cirrus PD672x chipset) 2Mbit "bronze" OEM WaveLAN card 2Mbit "bronze" OEM WaveLAN card Various versions of FreeBSD through 4.2 FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE Kernel Configuration: ===================== I have made my kernel configuration file available for viewing at: http://www.borg-cube.com/BORG-CUBE.txt (if, for whatever reason, you can't get to it, e-mail me and I will be happy to send you a copy) Anyway, here's what happens under the new Dual processor system: The system boots up properly, and the PCMCIA adapter is detected by the kernel: pcic0: at port 0x3e0-0x3e1 on isa0 pcic0: Polling mode pccard0: on pcic0 pccard1: on pcic1 (This is exactly the way the boot messages looked under the old single-processor system) Later on in boot, when the PCMCIA daemon (pccardd) is startd, tho, things get a little wonky: pccard: card inserted, slot 0 pccardd[203]: No card in database for "(null)"("(null)") Uh huh. Yeah. Whatever. I'm using the standard /etc/defaults/pccard.conf, which has the following entry for the Lucent card I have: # Lucent WaveLAN/IEEE card "Lucent Technologies" "WaveLAN/IEEE" config 0x1 "wi" ? # config auto "wi" ? insert /etc/pccard_ether $device start remove /etc/pccard_ether $device stop This looks to be the same as the one I used with my old single-processor system. I tried tweaking this around a bit (changing the "config" line, etc.) with no luck. I also read through the relevant man pages on PCMCIA and wavelan, and nothing seemed illuminating there either. Someone on IRC told me that WaveLAN and/or PCMCIA support does not work well (at all?) under SMP. Is this true? If so, then I suppose I'll have to "dumb down" my system (run it as a signle-CPU machine) if I want to have any WaveLAN support at all...? Can anyone offer some assistance here? Any and all help greatly appreciated. Thanks! -- Donald Burr of Borg | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! WWW: http://www.borg-cube.com/ ICQ #16997506 | http://www.freebsd.org/ P.O. Box 91212, Santa Barbara, CA 93190-1212 \----------------------------- Phone: (805)957-9666 <<< ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US >>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 11 19: 9:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6388737B423 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 19:09:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9DBBA6ACB8; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:39:22 +0930 (CST) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:39:22 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Simon Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RAID 5 Message-ID: <20010412113922.D48878@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010411160513.A64E737B423@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010411160513.A64E737B423@hub.freebsd.org>; from simon@optinet.com on Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 12:09:53PM -0400 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday, 11 April 2001 at 12:09:53 -0400, Simon wrote: > > Does anyone know if it's ok to mix drives with different amount of > cache in RAID-5 ? It shouldn't make any serious difference. You should have write cacheing turned off anyway, but even if you don't, I'd expect the cache size not to be an issue. There's a probability that the smallest cache size will dominate the performance, of course. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 11 19:36:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cs4.cs.ait.ac.th (cs4.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718CE37B42C; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 19:36:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by cs4.cs.ait.ac.th (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19055; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:34:49 +0700 (GMT+0700) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA13898; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:36:08 +0700 (ICT) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:36:08 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200104120236.JAA13898@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Authentication-Warning: banyan.cs.ait.ac.th: on set sender to on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th using -f From: Olivier Nicole To: dburr@borg-cube.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Donald Burr of Borg on Wed, 11 Apr 2001 18:51:55 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Help: ISA->PCMCIA adapter no longer works after switching to SMP box References: Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Donald, I had to configure Lucent PCMCIA adapter for WaveLAN two years ago, it only did work when disabling the sound card... I can't remember the details, but it was an hardware conflict that was not configurable. Those PCMCIA adapters are a real junk to get working in desktop machines. In the worse case, you could still use the old machine with one Ethernet card and the WaveLAN as a bridge for the subnet 192.168.2/24 :) Regards, Olivier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 11 19:51:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from realtime.net (dragon.realtime.net [205.238.128.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BCDA937B423 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 19:51:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brucegb@realtime.net) Received: from tigerfish2.my.domain ([205.238.179.233]) by realtime.net ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:50:09 -0600 Received: (from brucegb@localhost) by tigerfish2.my.domain (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f3C2pEt40762; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:51:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brucegb) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:51:14 -0500 From: Bruce Burden To: Donald Burr of Borg , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help: ISA->PCMCIA adapter no longer works after switching to SMP box Message-ID: <20010411215114.A40745@tigerfish2.my.domain> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dburr@borg-cube.com on Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 06:51:55PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Someone on IRC told me that WaveLAN and/or PCMCIA support does not work > well (at all?) under SMP. Is this true? > I have a PCI-PCMCIA card, and I wasn't able to get it to work under SMP. My experience was different in that I didn't get the "null" "null" routing. The card (a Calluna 131MB microdisk) was recognised, but I never got the "adX ..." message that my laptop gives me. All of the other messages were the same (card inserted, card id, etc. etc.) Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 11 23: 3:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from catastrophe.net (ss189-189.dvsn-chi-il.outlook.net [208.45.189.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CFB2437B5AF for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 23:03:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eric@catastrophe.net) Received: (qmail 27766 invoked by uid 1002); 12 Apr 2001 06:03:01 -0000 Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 01:03:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Reply-To: To: Subject: problem booting from cdrom Message-ID: Organization: http://www.catastrophe.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org has anyone ever had a problem booting from the cdrom drive attached to an intel ca810e motherboard? everything looks to be in order, but.. thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Apr 12 1:51:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC8937B42C for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 01:51:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@raggedclown.net) Received: from [212.238.77.116] (helo=gateway.raggedclown.net) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14ncou-000Ksd-00 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 08:51:17 +0000 Received: from buffy.raggedclown.net (buffy.raggedclown.intra [192.168.1.2]) by gateway.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Gateway) with ESMTP id 376C43378C for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:50:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: by buffy.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mailhost, from userid 500) id C427DB47B; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:50:37 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:50:37 +0200 From: Cliff Sarginson To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: This spec Message-ID: <20010412105037.A2301@buffy.raggedclown.intra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I can pick up the following at a reasonable price. Any comments anyone ? AMD Duron 700Mhz SocketA AOpen AK33 VIA KT133 Socket A 5p A-Mark 128MB SDRAM 133 Mhz Maxtor DiamondMAX VL 20.4GB U-DMA100 AOpen DVD 12x 40x IDE tray LGE Rewriter 8x4x32 IDE MTek GeForce 2MX 32MB TV-Out ATX Fulltower 300 Watt Will it work ? Cliff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Apr 12 2: 2: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7425F37B422 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 02:02:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from K.J.Koster@kpn.com) Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2TM2BLYH>; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:02:02 +0100 Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FD9B34@l04.research.kpn.com> From: "Koster, K.J." To: 'Cliff Sarginson' Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: This spec Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:01:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Cliff, > > AMD Duron 700Mhz SocketA > AOpen AK33 VIA KT133 Socket A 5p > A-Mark 128MB SDRAM 133 Mhz > Maxtor DiamondMAX VL 20.4GB U-DMA100 > AOpen DVD 12x 40x IDE tray > LGE Rewriter 8x4x32 IDE > MTek GeForce 2MX 32MB TV-Out > ATX Fulltower 300 Watt > > Will it work ? > What you're doing now is like posting "I can get a cheap Honda Civic, will it run?" You'll probably from that you only get useful answers if you ask precise questions here. Kees Jan ================================================ You are only young once, but you can stay immature all your life. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Apr 12 2:57:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7583337B424 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 02:57:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from K.J.Koster@kpn.com) Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2TM2BM23>; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:57:09 +0100 Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FD9B35@l04.research.kpn.com> From: "Koster, K.J." To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: This spec Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:56:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Cliff, > > From: Cliff Sarginson [mailto:cliff@buffy.raggedclown.intra] > Cliff, your e-mail address is not valid. Please contect me with your real mail address if you'd like to discuss this further. Kees Jan ================================================ You are only young once, but you can stay immature all your life. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Apr 12 3:35:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E9337B423 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 03:35:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@raggedclown.net) Received: from [212.238.77.116] (helo=gateway.raggedclown.net) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14neRy-000HXk-00 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:35:42 +0000 Received: from buffy.raggedclown.net (buffy.raggedclown.intra [192.168.1.2]) by gateway.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Gateway) with ESMTP id CBEE833788 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:35:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: by buffy.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mailhost, from userid 500) id 46D58B47B; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:35:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:35:48 +0200 From: Cliff Sarginson To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: unsubscribe Message-ID: <20010412123548.A3054@buffy.raggedclown.intra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Apr 14 0:16: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4223A37B443 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2001 00:16:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3E7H3w16141 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:17:04 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: Subject: Looking for some knowledge on EasyIO-4 cards Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:19:28 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've got a circa 1996 Stallion EasyIO-4 serial card here, based on the Cirrius Logic 1400 chip, and althought there are some files still in the 4.3-RC related to it, it simply doesn't want to work with the lates releases. It appeears to compile into the kernel ok, and shows up in dmesg. I can even get a modem attached to a port to ... hmmm... kind of respond. However, it doesn't actually work - can't control the modem at all. I get a warning from the kernel about the way it calls dev_t, and dmesg warns that it is using old shims. so. Is there anyone out there who knows about these sorts of things who might like to help a bit in getting this code up to speed for the latest releases. There are a number of unsupported versions of the driver on ftp.stallion.com as well as the code in the /usr/src/sys tree. See README.stl in /usr/src/sys/i386/isa for more (outdated) detail. It would be really nice to get this board going. Stallion stuff is very robust and has been around for years. I don't know why it hasn't made inroads much past SCO... and with a modem on one port, the UPS on another port (com1/com2) I'm pretty much in need of more ports - not to mention no mouse.... I'm reasonable familiar with C and stuff, programming in general, although not much in the serial department. Thanks for any help if anyone would like a small challenge.... cheers Robert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Apr 14 6:39:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from catastrophe.net (ss189-189.dvsn-chi-il.outlook.net [208.45.189.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9371F37B440 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2001 06:39:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eric@catastrophe.net) Received: (qmail 3545 invoked by uid 1002); 14 Apr 2001 13:39:09 -0000 Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 08:39:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Reply-To: To: Subject: Internal SCSI cabling. Message-ID: Organization: http://www.catastrophe.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have an extremely tight rack case that I'm having trouble cabling to SCSI3 LVD standards. It seems like once in a while a drive will fall back to SCSI2 on the chain (there's 5 drives on the chain). Adaptec has mentioned that this is due to the cable not being up the the 160 spec. Any suggestions? I've tried an internal ribbon and an internal round cable from QVS. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Apr 14 11:57:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from edwin.mounet.com (edwin.mounet.com [216.145.76.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C89B37B506 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2001 11:57:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hornback@wireco.net) Received: (qmail 26960 invoked by uid 0); 14 Apr 2001 18:53:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tomcat) (216.145.67.47) by mounet.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2001 18:53:51 -0000 From: "Andrew C. Hornback" To: Cc: "FreeBSD Hardware" Subject: RE: Internal SCSI cabling. Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 14:54:41 -0400 Message-ID: <010401c0c514$5cfd5d20$0e00000a@tomcat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As far as cabling goes, I tend to stick with cables from Granite = Digital. Adaptec thinks that they're the "cat's meow", and so do I. --- Andy > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of > uid0@catastrophe.net > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 9:39 AM > To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org > Subject: Internal SCSI cabling. >=20 > I have an extremely tight rack case that I'm having trouble cabling > to SCSI3 LVD standards. It seems like once in a while a drive will > fall back to SCSI2 on the chain (there's 5 drives on the chain). = Adaptec > has mentioned that this is due to the cable not being up the the 160 = spec. >=20 > Any suggestions? I've tried an internal ribbon and an internal round = cable > from QVS. >=20 > Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Apr 14 16:45:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from borg-cube.com (226-193.adsl2.netlojix.net [207.71.226.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE9137B449; Sat, 14 Apr 2001 16:45:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dburr@borg-cube.com) Received: from drone (drone.collective.borg-cube.com [192.168.0.5]) by borg-cube.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3ENjN800763; Sat, 14 Apr 2001 16:45:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dburr@borg-cube.com) From: "Donald Burr" To: "FreeBSD Questions List" Cc: "FreeBSD Hardware List" Subject: FreeBSD compatible with Orinoco (WaveLAN) PCI->PCMCIA adapter? Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 16:45:36 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone know if the FreeBSD PCMCIA and WaveLAN drivers will work with the Orinoco/WaveLAN PCI to PCMCIA adapter? I am talking about this device --> http://www.wavelan.com/template.html?section=m57&page=128&envelope=93 Please let me know, Thanks! (follow ups to hardware, please) Donald Burr of Borg | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! WWW: http://www.borg-cube.com/ ICQ #16997506 | http://www.freebsd.org/ P.O. 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