From owner-freebsd-i18n Mon Nov 19 23:36:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from sharmas.dhs.org (cpe-66-1-147-119.ca.sprintbbd.net [66.1.147.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2105937B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:36:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by sharmas.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 243AF5E59A; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:36:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:36:45 -0800 From: Arun Sharma To: i18n@freebsd.org Cc: bsd-india@sharmas.dhs.org Subject: New locale: hi_IN.ISCII Message-ID: <20011119233645.A8153@sharma-home.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="UugvWAfsgieZRqgk" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Language = Hindi Territory = India Encoding = ISCII (http://www.mit.gov.in/tdil/standards.htm) The patch is attached. Should apply cleanly in /usr/src/share. Can someone please commit it ? -Arun --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iscii-dev Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="hi_IN.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --- /dev/null Mon Nov 19 23:22:00 2001 +++ colldef/hi_IN.ISCII.src Mon Nov 19 22:39:44 2001 @@ -0,0 +1,6 @@ +# ASCII +# +# $FreeBSD: src/share/colldef/la_LN.US-ASCII.src,v 1.2 1999/08/28 00:59:47 peter Exp $ +# +order \ + \x00;...;\xff --- /dev/null Mon Nov 19 23:22:00 2001 +++ mklocale/hi_IN.ISCII.src Mon Nov 19 23:26:42 2001 @@ -0,0 +1,32 @@ +/* + * Hindi Language Locale with ISCII Encoding + * + * Arun Sharma + * Last updated Mon Nov 19 23:07:46 PST 2001 + * + */ + +ENCODING "ISCII" + +ALPHA 'A' - 'Z' 'a' - 'z' '¡' - 'ê' +CONTROL 0x00 - 0x1f 0x7f +DIGIT 'ñ' - 'ú' +GRAPH 0x21 - 0x7e +LOWER 'a' - 'z' +PUNCT 0x21 - 0x2f 0x3a - 0x40 0x5b - 0x60 0x7b - 0x7e +SPACE 0x09 - 0x0d 0x20 +UPPER 'A' - 'Z' +XDIGIT '0' - '9' 'a' - 'f' 'A' - 'F' '¡' - 'ê' +BLANK ' ' '\t' +PRINT 0x20 - 0xfa +# IDEOGRAM +# SPECIAL +# PHONEGRAM + +MAPLOWER <'A' - 'Z' : 'a'> +MAPLOWER <'a' - 'z' : 'a'> +MAPUPPER <'A' - 'Z' : 'A'> +MAPUPPER <'a' - 'z' : 'A'> +TODIGIT <'0' - '9' : 0> +TODIGIT <'A' - 'F' : 10> +TODIGIT <'a' - 'f' : 10> --- /dev/null Mon Nov 19 23:22:00 2001 +++ monetdef/hi_IN.ISCII.src Mon Nov 19 22:56:40 2001 @@ -0,0 +1,36 @@ +# $FreeBSD: src/share/monetdef/en_US.ISO8859-1.src,v 1.7 2001/02/19 18:55:34 phantom Exp $ +# +# WARNING: spaces may be essential at the end of lines +# WARNING: empty lines are essential too +# +# int_curr_symbol (last character always SPACE) +Rs +# currency_symbol +Rs +# mon_decimal_point +. +# mon_thousands_sep +, +# mon_grouping, separated by ; +3;2;0 +# positive_sign + +# negative_sign +- +# int_frac_digits +2 +# frac_digits +2 +# p_cs_precedes +1 +# p_sep_by_space +0 +# n_cs_precedes +1 +# n_sep_by_space +0 +# p_sign_posn +1 +# n_sign_posn +1 +# EOF --- /dev/null Mon Nov 19 23:22:00 2001 +++ msgdef/hi_IN.ISCII.src Mon Nov 19 23:05:53 2001 @@ -0,0 +1,10 @@ +# $FreeBSD: src/share/msgdef/en_US.ISO8859-1.src,v 1.2 2001/02/08 22:45:44 asmodai Exp $ +# +# WARNING: spaces may be essential at the end of lines +# WARNING: empty lines are essential too +# +# yesexpr +^[ØyY].* +# noexpr +^[ÆnN].* +# EOF --- /dev/null Mon Nov 19 23:22:00 2001 +++ numericdef/hi_IN.ISCII.src Mon Nov 19 22:45:18 2001 @@ -0,0 +1,12 @@ +# $FreeBSD: src/share/numericdef/en_US.ISO8859-1.src,v 1.4 2001/02/10 19:06:32 ache Exp $ +# +# WARNING: spaces may be essential at the end of lines +# WARNING: empty lines are essential too +# +# decimal_point +. +# thousands_sep +, +# grouping, separated by ; +2;3 +# EOF --- /dev/null Mon Nov 19 23:22:00 2001 +++ timedef/hi_IN.ISCII.src Mon Nov 19 22:29:38 2001 @@ -0,0 +1,103 @@ +# $FreeBSD: src/share/timedef/en_US.ISO8859-1.src,v 1.9 2001/03/21 13:52:11 ache Exp $ +# +# WARNING: spaces may be essential at the end of lines +# WARNING: empty lines are essential too +# +# Short month names -- same as long +# +ºÆÔÏÜ +ÉéÏÔÏÜ +ÌÚÏè¸ +¤ÈèÏáÑ +̧ +ºÞÆ +ºÝÑÚ§ +¤µ×è +×ÛÂÌèÊÏ +¤³è½ÞÊÏ +ÆÔÌèÊÏ +ÄÛ×ÌèÊÏ +# +# Long month names +# +ºÆÔÏÜ +ÉéÏÔÏÜ +ÌÚÏè¸ +¤ÈèÏáÑ +̧ +ºÞÆ +ºÝÑÚ§ +¤µ×è +×ÛÂÌèÊÏ +¤³è½ÞÊÏ +ÆÔÌèÊÏ +ÄÛ×ÌèÊÏ +# +# +# Short weekday names +# +ÏÔ +×å +Ì¢ +ÊÝ +µÝ +ÕÝ +ÕÆ +# +# Long weekday names +# +ÏÔÛÔÚÏ +×åÌÔÚÏ +Ì¢µÑÔÚÏ +ÊÝÅÔÚÏ +µÝÏÝÔÚÏ +ÕݳèÏÔÚÏ +ÕÆÛÔÚÏ +# +# X_fmt +# +%H:%M:%S +# +# x_fmt +# +%d/%m/%Y +# +# c_fmt +# +%a %b %e %X %Y +# +# am +# +ÈÞÏèÔÚØèÆ +# +# pm +¤ÈÏÚØèÆ +# +# +# date_fmt +# +%a %b %e %X %Z %Y +# +# Long months names (alternative) +# +ºÆÔÏÜ +ÉéÏÔÏÜ +ÌÚÏè¸ +¤ÈèÏáÑ +̧ +ºÞÆ +ºÝÑÚ§ +¤µ×è +×ÛÂÌèÊÏ +¤³è½ÞÊÏ +ÆÔÌèÊÏ +ÄÛ×ÌèÊÏ +# +# md_order +# +md +# +# ampm_fmt +# +%I:%M:%S %p +# EOF --- colldef/Makefile Mon Nov 19 22:39:54 2001 +++ colldef/Makefile- Mon Nov 19 22:30:54 2001 @@ -10,7 +10,6 @@ es_ES.ISO8859-15 \ es_ES.ISO8859-1 \ et_EE.ISO8859-15 \ - hi_IN.ISCII \ is_IS.ISO8859-15 \ is_IS.ISO8859-1 \ la_LN.US-ASCII \ --- monetdef/Makefile Mon Nov 19 22:46:39 2001 +++ monetdef/Makefile- Mon Nov 19 22:46:24 2001 @@ -19,7 +19,6 @@ fi_FI.ISO8859-1 \ fr_FR.ISO8859-1 \ fr_CA.ISO8859-1 \ - hi_IN.ISCII \ hr_HR.ISO8859-2 \ hu_HU.ISO8859-2 \ is_IS.ISO8859-1 \ --- msgdef/Makefile Mon Nov 19 23:06:28 2001 +++ msgdef/Makefile- Mon Nov 19 23:06:12 2001 @@ -16,7 +16,6 @@ fi_FI.ISO8859-1 \ fr_CH.ISO8859-1 \ fr_FR.ISO8859-1 \ - hi_IN.ISCII \ hr_HR.ISO8859-2 \ hu_HU.ISO8859-2 \ is_IS.ISO8859-1 \ --- numericdef/Makefile Mon Nov 19 22:46:00 2001 +++ numericdef/Makefile- Mon Nov 19 22:45:38 2001 @@ -13,7 +13,6 @@ et_EE.ISO8859-15 \ fi_FI.ISO8859-1 \ fr_FR.ISO8859-1 \ - hi_IN.ISCII \ hr_HR.ISO8859-2 \ hu_HU.ISO8859-2 \ is_IS.ISO8859-1 \ --- timedef/Makefile Mon Nov 19 22:15:21 2001 +++ timedef/Makefile- Mon Nov 19 22:15:02 2001 @@ -14,7 +14,6 @@ et_EE.ISO8859-15 \ fi_FI.ISO8859-1 \ fr_FR.ISO8859-1 \ - hi_IN.ISCII \ hr_HR.ISO8859-2 \ hu_HU.ISO8859-2 \ is_IS.ISO8859-1 \ --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Tue Nov 20 6:17:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB9137B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:17:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es (v-ger [158.227.6.51]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAKEH6D14986 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:17:06 +0100 (MET) Received: (from jose@localhost) by v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKEH6Q01678 for i18n@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:17:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jose) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:17:06 +0100 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" To: i18n@FreeBSD.org Subject: -STABLE and ISO8859-15 Message-ID: <20011120151706.D1056@v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, After January 1, 2002 many european users will want to switch from ISO8859-1 to ISO8859-15, because the last one includes the Euro currency sign. However, in -STABLE there are not "ISO_8859-15" locales; we have instead "DIS_8859-15". Shouldn't we rename those locales to "ISO_8859-1"? Also, we have to add several -15 locales for countries in the Eurozone. Another option may be to merge the locale support from -CURRENT. What do you think about that? Cheers, JMA -- ****** Jose M. Alcaide // jose@we.lc.ehu.es // jmas@FreeBSD.org ****** ** "Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers" -- Leonard Brandwein ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Tue Nov 20 6:47:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B58B37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:47:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKEl0J34440; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:47:00 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ache) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:47:00 +0300 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Arun Sharma Cc: i18n@FreeBSD.ORG, bsd-india@sharmas.dhs.org Subject: Re: New locale: hi_IN.ISCII Message-ID: <20011120144700.GA34211@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20011119233645.A8153@sharma-home.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011119233645.A8153@sharma-home.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 23:36:45 -0800, Arun Sharma wrote: > +# > +# int_curr_symbol (last character always SPACE) > +Rs > +# currency_symbol > +Rs I doubt that international currency can be the same as national here. International ones are all uppercase and have at lease 3 letters, please check this thing. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Tue Nov 20 6:52: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from gateway.sanyusan.se (gateway.sanyusan.se [213.88.225.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3FEF37B41A for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:51:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from jellyfish.codefactory.se (postfix@dhcp-100.sanyusan.se [192.168.1.100]) by gateway.sanyusan.se (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAKEpww03958; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:51:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anders@codefactory.se) Received: by jellyfish.codefactory.se (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8430A2A84; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:51:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:51:40 +0100 From: Anders Andersson To: "Jose M. Alcaide" Cc: i18n@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: -STABLE and ISO8859-15 Message-ID: <20011120145140.GA454@jellyfish.codefactory.se> References: <20011120151706.D1056@v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011120151706.D1056@v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:17:06PM +0100, Jose M. Alcaide wrote: > Hello, > > After January 1, 2002 many european users will want to switch from > ISO8859-1 to ISO8859-15, because the last one includes the Euro currency > sign. However, in -STABLE there are not "ISO_8859-15" locales; we have > instead "DIS_8859-15". Shouldn't we rename those locales to "ISO_8859-1"? > Also, we have to add several -15 locales for countries in the Eurozone. > Another option may be to merge the locale support from -CURRENT. > > What do you think about that? I'm all for a MFC of the needed locale stuff for *-15 from -CURRENT. -- Anders Andersson anders@codefactory.se CodeFactory AB http://www.codefactory.se/ Office: +46 (0)31 711 99 35 Cell: +46 (0)70 587 53 35 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Tue Nov 20 9:58:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from sharmas.dhs.org (cpe-66-1-147-119.ca.sprintbbd.net [66.1.147.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D4137B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:58:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by sharmas.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 2C3275E59A; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:58:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:58:09 -0800 From: Arun Sharma To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: i18n@FreeBSD.ORG, bsd-india@sharmas.dhs.org Subject: Re: New locale: hi_IN.ISCII Message-ID: <20011120095809.B11553@sharma-home.net> References: <20011119233645.A8153@sharma-home.net> <20011120144700.GA34211@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20011120144700.GA34211@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 05:47:00PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 05:47:00PM +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 23:36:45 -0800, Arun Sharma wrote: > > +# > > +# int_curr_symbol (last character always SPACE) > > +Rs > > +# currency_symbol > > +Rs > > I doubt that international currency can be the same as national here. > International ones are all uppercase and have at lease 3 letters, please > check this thing. You're right. int_curr_symbol should be INR (Indian Rupees). The currency_symbol in Hindi should be: ÏÞȬ rUpaE in transliterated form. Let me know if you want me to send a separate patch. Also, I'm not sure how the thousands grouping works. Here's is how people write numbers in India: 1,000 1,00,000 1,00,00,000 1,00,00,00,000 etc Is 3;2;0 the correct representation for this ? -Arun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Tue Nov 20 15:36:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 626A037B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:36:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es (lxpx543.lx.ehu.es [158.227.27.189]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAKNaLD17629; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:36:21 +0100 (MET) Received: (from jose@localhost) by v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKNaIf00724; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:36:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jose) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:36:17 +0100 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" To: Anders Andersson Cc: i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -STABLE and ISO8859-15 Message-ID: <20011121003617.A332@v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es> References: <20011120151706.D1056@v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es> <20011120145140.GA454@jellyfish.codefactory.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011120145140.GA454@jellyfish.codefactory.se>; from anders@codefactory.se on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:51:40PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:51:40PM +0100, Anders Andersson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:17:06PM +0100, Jose M. Alcaide wrote: > > > > After January 1, 2002 many european users will want to switch from > > ISO8859-1 to ISO8859-15, because the last one includes the Euro currency > > sign. However, in -STABLE there are not "ISO_8859-15" locales; we have > > instead "DIS_8859-15". Shouldn't we rename those locales to "ISO_8859-1"? > > Also, we have to add several -15 locales for countries in the Eurozone. > > Another option may be to merge the locale support from -CURRENT. > > > > I'm all for a MFC of the needed locale stuff for *-15 from > -CURRENT. I think so. But I am not aware of all of the consequences of such an action. An MFC of the locale support will imply striping the "_" from the "ISO_xxxx" strings, for example. The new support for monetdef, msgdef and numericdef needs library changes. BTW, monetdef locales for countries in the Eurozone must be updated... Since the FreeBSD locale maintainers are subscribed to this list, maybe they could enlightment us about these issues :-) Cheers, JMA -- ****** Jose M. Alcaide // jose@we.lc.ehu.es // jmas@FreeBSD.org ****** ** "Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers" -- Leonard Brandwein ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Wed Nov 21 20:41:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 729) id 2F60737B405; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:41:35 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0 To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: Arun Sharma , i18n@FreeBSD.ORG, bsd-india@sharmas.dhs.org Subject: Re: New locale: hi_IN.ISCII In-Reply-To: Message from "Andrey A. Chernov" of "Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:47:00 +0300." <20011120144700.GA34211@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <20011122044135.2F60737B405@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:41:35 -0800 (PST) From: jkoshy@FreeBSD.ORG (Joseph Koshy) Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrey, FYI, I'm verifying this patch (Hindi locale). I've a question about FreeBSD's locale naming conventions: AFAIK the official name of the `ISCII' encoding is `IS13194' (Indian Standard 13194). So should the locale be named `hi_IN.IS13194'? Regards, Koshy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Thu Nov 22 2: 8:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from irodis.panteion.gr (irodis.panteion.gr [194.177.218.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1E937B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:08:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from MyRealBox.com (port9.panteion.gr [194.177.223.139]) by irodis.panteion.gr (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id fAMA8em25391 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:08:41 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3BFCCE33.A73F605E@MyRealBox.com> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:06:43 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-7?Q?=C1=ED=E1=F3=F4=E1=F3=DC=F4=EF=F2=20=C2=E1=F3=DF=EB=E5=E9=EF=F2?= Reply-To: B.Anastasatos@Freemail.gr X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: el,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Subject: ACS (Alternate Character Set) support in ISO-8859-7 greek codepage References: <20010727132229.B8030-300000@idemnia.ath.cx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ISO-8859-7 supports only 4 out of the 32 ACS characters. On the other hand, there are about 35 "unused" positions in ISO-7, are more than enough if somebody wanted to add ACS glyphs to ISO-8859-7 console fonts. I noticed that this is exactly what happens in the FreeBSD implementation of ISO-8859-2. I'd like to know if this approach (i.e. filling unused slots with ACS glyphs) is "correct" and encouraged or depricated because of possible undesired side-effects. Is there a naming convention for such an "extended" font? If iso07-8x16.fnt is a ISO-8859-7 font, what is the proper name for a font with ACS support, so that it be destinguished from the "pure" ISO one? TIA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Thu Nov 22 4:18:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from mx.globalone.ru (mx.globalone.ru [194.84.254.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122B637B418 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 04:18:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from hq.globalone.ru (hq.globalone.ru [172.16.38.1]) by mx.globalone.ru (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAMCI4O16304 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:18:04 +0300 Received: from host205 ([172.17.13.205]) by hq.globalone.ru (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GN7BI400.C3N; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:18:04 +0300 Message-ID: <016301c17350$30b48780$cd0d11ac@host205.spb.in.rosprint.ru> Reply-To: "Alexander Voropay" From: "Alexander Voropay" To: , Subject: Re: New locale: hi_IN.ISCII Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:17:45 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joseph Koshy >I've a question about FreeBSD's locale naming conventions: AFAIK the >official name of the `ISCII' encoding is `IS13194' (Indian Standard 13194). >So should the locale be named `hi_IN.IS13194'? IFAIK, it is better to use oficially registerd Charset name, as it is used in e-mail (MIME) field : Content-Type: text/plain; charset=???? See: [Oficially Registered MIME Charsets] http://www.iana.org/assignments/character-sets [IANA Charset Mailing List archive] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-charsets/ -- -=AV=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Thu Nov 22 7:38:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C3F37B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 07:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAMFcEh63167; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:38:14 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ache) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:38:13 +0300 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: B.Anastasatos@Freemail.gr Cc: freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ACS (Alternate Character Set) support in ISO-8859-7 greek codepage Message-ID: <20011122153813.GA62978@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010727132229.B8030-300000@idemnia.ath.cx> <3BFCCE33.A73F605E@MyRealBox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3BFCCE33.A73F605E@MyRealBox.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 12:06:43 +0200, ??????????? ????????? wrote: > ISO-8859-7 supports only 4 out of the 32 ACS characters. On > the other hand, there are about 35 "unused" positions in ISO-7, > are more than enough if somebody wanted to add ACS glyphs to > ISO-8859-7 console fonts. I noticed that this is exactly what > happens in the FreeBSD implementation of ISO-8859-2. No, fonts must conforms standards exactly. 8859-2 font must be fixed instead. Otherwise it gives user wrong impression that ACS characters present in standard, so he start to use them and become incompatible with the rest of the world. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Thu Nov 22 14:58:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from sharmas.dhs.org (cpe-66-1-147-119.ca.sprintbbd.net [66.1.147.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA0E37B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:58:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by sharmas.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 9EB075E076; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:03:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:03:08 -0800 From: Arun Sharma To: i18n@freebsd.org Cc: bsd-india@sharmas.dhs.org Subject: Indian language encoding Message-ID: <20011122150308.A6551@sharma-home.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The support for Unicode UTF-8 seems to be getting better: http://rohini.ncst.ernet.in/indix/ [ This was just announced on Linux India ] The good news is that we can run the ISCII encoded Hindi locale through ISCII -> UTF-8 Devangari perl script and add a new locale (hi_IN.UTF-8) with the UTF8 encoding. Because Unicode for Indic languages was largely based on ISCII, this process should not be too difficult. ISCII still has the advantage of being more compact and the promise of being one common encoding for all Indian languages. -Arun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Thu Nov 22 15:12:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0816A37B416; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:12:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAMNCOK67011; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:12:24 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ache) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:12:23 +0300 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Joseph Koshy Cc: Arun Sharma , i18n@FreeBSD.ORG, bsd-india@sharmas.dhs.org Subject: Re: New locale: hi_IN.ISCII Message-ID: <20011122231222.GA66927@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20011120144700.GA34211@nagual.pp.ru> <20011122044135.2F60737B405@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011122044135.2F60737B405@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 20:41:35 -0800, Joseph Koshy wrote: > > > Andrey, > > FYI, I'm verifying this patch (Hindi locale). > > I've a question about FreeBSD's locale naming conventions: AFAIK the > official name of the `ISCII' encoding is `IS13194' (Indian Standard 13194). > So should the locale be named `hi_IN.IS13194'? We should use most compatible with X11 name. First look at X11 or XFree86, if some name exist there, we should use it. The second one is Linux (as most likely merge to X11 candidate), etc. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Thu Nov 22 15:20:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from irodis.panteion.gr (irodis.panteion.gr [194.177.218.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E61237B419 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:20:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from MyRealBox.com (port17.panteion.gr [194.177.223.147]) by irodis.panteion.gr (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id fAMNK8m17173; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:20:14 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3BFD87B2.E9691603@MyRealBox.com> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:18:10 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-7?Q?=C1=ED=E1=F3=F4=E1=F3=DC=F4=EF=F2=20=C2=E1=F3=DF=EB=E5=E9=EF=F2?= Reply-To: B.Anastasatos@Freemail.gr X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: el,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ACS (Alternate Character Set) support in ISO-8859-7 greek codepage References: <20010727132229.B8030-300000@idemnia.ath.cx> <3BFCCE33.A73F605E@MyRealBox.com> <20011122153813.GA62978@nagual.pp.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Andrey A. Chernov" wrote: > > ISO-8859-7 supports only 4 out of the 32 ACS characters. On > > the other hand, there are about 35 "unused" positions in > > ISO-7, more than enough if somebody wanted to add ACS glyphs > > to ISO-8859-7 console fonts. I noticed that this is exactly > > what happens in the FreeBSD implementation of ISO-8859-2. > No, fonts must conforms standards exactly. 8859-2 font must be > fixed instead. Otherwise it gives user wrong impression that ACS > characters present in standard, OK, what about creating _separate_ fonts and naming them in such a way that is obvious they don't conform _exactly_ to ISO-8859' series? Like el.iso07_with_ACS_enhancements.8x16.fnt. > so he start to use them and become incompatible with the rest of > the world. Of course people wouldn't use directly the enhancements, instead the would keep using the ncurses library interface as usual (cat /usr/include/curses.h | grep define | grep ACS | less). ncurses would then consult /etc/termcap to find out if and how ACS is implemented in the actual $TERM console. In this way no compatibility problems raise. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Thu Nov 22 15:29:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA7137B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:29:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAMNTT267216; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:29:29 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ache) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:29:26 +0300 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: B.Anastasatos@Freemail.gr Cc: freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ACS (Alternate Character Set) support in ISO-8859-7 greek codepage Message-ID: <20011122232925.GA67153@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010727132229.B8030-300000@idemnia.ath.cx> <3BFCCE33.A73F605E@MyRealBox.com> <20011122153813.GA62978@nagual.pp.ru> <3BFD87B2.E9691603@MyRealBox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3BFD87B2.E9691603@MyRealBox.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 01:18:10 +0200, ??????????? ????????? wrote: > OK, what about creating _separate_ fonts and naming them in such a > way that is obvious they don't conform _exactly_ to ISO-8859' > series? Like el.iso07_with_ACS_enhancements.8x16.fnt. There is no problem with adding non-default non-standard fonts and termcap entries. BTW, I see we have lots of fonts with broken standards conformance, so I plan big fonts cleanup in near time. > Of course people wouldn't use directly the enhancements, instead > the would keep using the ncurses library interface as usual > (cat /usr/include/curses.h | grep define | grep ACS | less). > ncurses would then consult /etc/termcap to find out if and how ACS > is implemented in the actual $TERM console. In this way no > compatibility problems raise. They arise if somebody try to cut & paste them or get a screen copy. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Thu Nov 22 16: 4:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from sharmas.dhs.org (cpe-66-1-147-119.ca.sprintbbd.net [66.1.147.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 872C837B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:04:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by sharmas.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id CF9605E07A; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:08:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:08:33 -0800 From: Arun Sharma To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: i18n@FreeBSD.ORG, bsd-india@sharmas.dhs.org Subject: Re: New locale: hi_IN.ISCII Message-ID: <20011122160833.A7277@sharma-home.net> References: <20011120144700.GA34211@nagual.pp.ru> <20011122044135.2F60737B405@hub.freebsd.org> <20011122231222.GA66927@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20011122231222.GA66927@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 02:12:23AM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 02:12:23AM +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 20:41:35 -0800, Joseph Koshy wrote: > > > > > > Andrey, > > > > FYI, I'm verifying this patch (Hindi locale). > > > > I've a question about FreeBSD's locale naming conventions: AFAIK the > > official name of the `ISCII' encoding is `IS13194' (Indian Standard 13194). > > So should the locale be named `hi_IN.IS13194'? > > We should use most compatible with X11 name. First look at X11 or XFree86, > if some name exist there, we should use it. The second one is Linux (as > most likely merge to X11 candidate), etc. XFree86 uses: hi: hi_IN.ISCII-DEV hi_IN: hi_IN.ISCII-DEV hi_IN.isciidev: hi_IN.ISCII-DEV http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/nls/locale.alias?rev=1.48&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup Linux uses (from locales-hi RPM): $ ls -d /usr/share/locale/hi_IN.* /usr/share/locale/hi_IN.ISCII-DEV/ /usr/share/locale/hi_IN.UTF-8/ UTF-8 will be a completely new encoding and I think we should support both. 1. People who need to view multiple Indian language fonts simultaneously will use UTF-8. 2. People who want to read a document written in one Indian language, using other language fonts (it may or may not make sense, but they can still read it), will use ISCII. -Arun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Thu Nov 22 16:19:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA55037B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:19:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAN0JR667851; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:19:28 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ache) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:19:23 +0300 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Arun Sharma Cc: i18n@FreeBSD.ORG, bsd-india@sharmas.dhs.org Subject: Re: New locale: hi_IN.ISCII Message-ID: <20011123001921.GA67722@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20011119233645.A8153@sharma-home.net> <20011120144700.GA34211@nagual.pp.ru> <20011120095809.B11553@sharma-home.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011120095809.B11553@sharma-home.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 09:58:09 -0800, Arun Sharma wrote: > int_curr_symbol should be INR (Indian Rupees). The currency_symbol in > Hindi should be: > > ???? > > rUpaE in transliterated form. Let me know if you want me to send a > separate patch. It looks like full name, but we need shortest civil abbreviation here. Separate patch is needed in anycase because of ISCII -> ISCII-DEV > Is 3;2;0 the correct representation for this ? It seems. Try it with strfmon(3). -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Thu Nov 22 16:20:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4894537B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:20:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAN0Klk67877; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:20:47 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ache) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:20:40 +0300 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Arun Sharma Cc: i18n@FreeBSD.ORG, bsd-india@sharmas.dhs.org Subject: Re: New locale: hi_IN.ISCII Message-ID: <20011123002039.GB67722@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20011120144700.GA34211@nagual.pp.ru> <20011122044135.2F60737B405@hub.freebsd.org> <20011122231222.GA66927@nagual.pp.ru> <20011122160833.A7277@sharma-home.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011122160833.A7277@sharma-home.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 16:08:33 -0800, Arun Sharma wrote: > XFree86 uses: > > hi: hi_IN.ISCII-DEV > hi_IN: hi_IN.ISCII-DEV > hi_IN.isciidev: hi_IN.ISCII-DEV So we must use ISCII-DEV, please resubmit your patch. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Fri Nov 23 11:18: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.port.ru (mx2.port.ru [194.67.57.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FDD37B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:17:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from a1as13-p70.mch.tli.de ([195.252.167.70] helo=badger.home) by smtp2.port.ru with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #1) id 167Lpl-000AkC-00 for freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:17:57 +0300 Received: (from gene@localhost) by badger.home (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fANJJKm00455 for freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:19:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gene) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:19:20 +0100 From: Eugene Ossintsev To: freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: about font cleanup Message-ID: <20011123201920.A396@badger.home> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010727132229.B8030-300000@idemnia.ath.cx> <3BFCCE33.A73F605E@MyRealBox.com> <20011122153813.GA62978@nagual.pp.ru> <3BFD87B2.E9691603@MyRealBox.com> <20011122232925.GA67153@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011122232925.GA67153@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 02:29:26AM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 23 Nov 2001, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > BTW, I see we have lots of fonts with broken standards conformance, > so I plan big fonts cleanup in near time. What do you think of the font quality cleanup? I think we can prepare nicer console fonts for FreeBSD than we have at the moment. And, at least, in case of Latin and Cyrillic they can look identical in style sense. It would be really great! I've got some fonts written from scratch and proved bit by bit by me and two friends of mine. They are KOI8-R'd. We can start from them and produce all others. Or we can start from any other font. But the final point will be the quality original FreeBSD console fonts. Why not? It sounds not so crazy? -- Eugene To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Fri Nov 23 22: 8:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from sharmas.dhs.org (cpe-66-1-147-119.ca.sprintbbd.net [66.1.147.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE6E37B418 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:08:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by sharmas.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 6B6205E079; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:13:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:13:20 -0800 From: Arun Sharma To: i18n@freebsd.org Subject: charmap for UTF-8 Message-ID: <20011123221320.A18485@sharma-home.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was trying to define a collation order for hi_IN.UTF-8 and found that there is an existing charmap file for UTF-8 published by IBM under IBM public license. http://www-124.ibm.com/developerworks/oss/cvs/locale/ul/src/cmap/charmap.utf8?sortby=rev Is it acceptable to just use this file ? This map will be useful for other locales using the UTF-8 encoding. -Arun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Fri Nov 23 23: 7:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from sharmas.dhs.org (cpe-66-1-147-119.ca.sprintbbd.net [66.1.147.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9EC37B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:07:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by sharmas.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id B62055E079; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:11:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:11:44 -0800 From: Arun Sharma To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: i18n@FreeBSD.ORG, bsd-india@sharmas.dhs.org Subject: Re: New locale: hi_IN.ISCII Message-ID: <20011123231144.A19119@sharma-home.net> References: <20011120144700.GA34211@nagual.pp.ru> <20011122044135.2F60737B405@hub.freebsd.org> <20011122231222.GA66927@nagual.pp.ru> <20011122160833.A7277@sharma-home.net> <20011123002039.GB67722@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20011123002039.GB67722@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 03:20:40AM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 03:20:40AM +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: Andrey, > On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 16:08:33 -0800, Arun Sharma wrote: > > XFree86 uses: > > > > hi: hi_IN.ISCII-DEV > > hi_IN: hi_IN.ISCII-DEV > > hi_IN.isciidev: hi_IN.ISCII-DEV > > So we must use ISCII-DEV, please resubmit your patch. Here is a new patch: http://www.sharma-home.net/~adsharma/projects/hi_IN/ 1. hi.tar.gz contains two locales: ISCII-DEV and UTF-8. These are all new files, that go into /usr/src/share. 2. The patch is for Makefiles only. The tar.gz includes IBM's charmap.utf8. -Arun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Fri Nov 23 23:22:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from sharmas.dhs.org (cpe-66-1-147-119.ca.sprintbbd.net [66.1.147.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F07B37B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:22:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by sharmas.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 56EAD5E07B; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:26:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:26:43 -0800 From: Arun Sharma To: "Andrey A. Chernov" , i18n@FreeBSD.ORG, bsd-india@sharmas.dhs.org Subject: Re: New locale: hi_IN.ISCII Message-ID: <20011123232643.A19269@sharma-home.net> References: <20011120144700.GA34211@nagual.pp.ru> <20011122044135.2F60737B405@hub.freebsd.org> <20011122231222.GA66927@nagual.pp.ru> <20011122160833.A7277@sharma-home.net> <20011123002039.GB67722@nagual.pp.ru> <20011123231144.A19119@sharma-home.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20011123231144.A19119@sharma-home.net>; from arun@sharma-home.net on Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 11:11:44PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 11:11:44PM -0800, Arun Sharma wrote: > > The tar.gz includes IBM's charmap.utf8. Sorry - I didn't test it adequately before I sent it out. colldef doesn't seem to like multibyte characters in the charmap file. If no one else is already working on it, I'll see what it takes to make it work. -Arun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Sat Nov 24 14:23:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3464237B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:23:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAOMNhP11639; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 01:23:43 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ache) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 01:23:43 +0300 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Arun Sharma Cc: i18n@FreeBSD.ORG, bsd-india@sharmas.dhs.org Subject: Re: New locale: hi_IN.ISCII Message-ID: <20011124222342.GA11600@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20011120144700.GA34211@nagual.pp.ru> <20011122044135.2F60737B405@hub.freebsd.org> <20011122231222.GA66927@nagual.pp.ru> <20011122160833.A7277@sharma-home.net> <20011123002039.GB67722@nagual.pp.ru> <20011123231144.A19119@sharma-home.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011123231144.A19119@sharma-home.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 23:11:44 -0800, Arun Sharma wrote: > http://www.sharma-home.net/~adsharma/projects/hi_IN/ > > 1. hi.tar.gz contains two locales: ISCII-DEV and UTF-8. These are all > new files, that go into /usr/src/share. > 2. The patch is for Makefiles only. > > The tar.gz includes IBM's charmap.utf8. Please put ISCII-DEV patch/data separately with its own map.ISCII-dev for colldef. We are not ready yet for utf8 charmap due to 8bit collate tables format currently used. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Sat Nov 24 14:25:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D8A37B418 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:25:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAOMPFg11664; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 01:25:15 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ache) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 01:25:15 +0300 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Arun Sharma Cc: i18n@FreeBSD.ORG, bsd-india@sharmas.dhs.org Subject: Re: New locale: hi_IN.ISCII Message-ID: <20011124222515.GB11600@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20011120144700.GA34211@nagual.pp.ru> <20011122044135.2F60737B405@hub.freebsd.org> <20011122231222.GA66927@nagual.pp.ru> <20011122160833.A7277@sharma-home.net> <20011123002039.GB67722@nagual.pp.ru> <20011123231144.A19119@sharma-home.net> <20011123232643.A19269@sharma-home.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011123232643.A19269@sharma-home.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 23:26:43 -0800, Arun Sharma wrote: > Sorry - I didn't test it adequately before I sent it out. > colldef doesn't seem to like multibyte characters in the charmap > file. Yes, currently one-byte characters only supported by collate. > If no one else is already working on it, I'll see what it takes to > make it work. AFAIK, no one working on multi-byte collates yet. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Sat Nov 24 14:27:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED5937B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:27:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAOMRVB11697; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 01:27:31 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ache) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 01:27:31 +0300 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Arun Sharma Cc: i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: charmap for UTF-8 Message-ID: <20011124222731.GC11600@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20011123221320.A18485@sharma-home.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011123221320.A18485@sharma-home.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 22:13:20 -0800, Arun Sharma wrote: > I was trying to define a collation order for hi_IN.UTF-8 and found that > there is an existing charmap file for UTF-8 published by IBM under > IBM public license. > > http://www-124.ibm.com/developerworks/oss/cvs/locale/ul/src/cmap/charmap.utf8?sortby=rev I don't know details of IBM public license. If it have no additional restrictions compared with FreeBSD license, it could be used. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Sat Nov 24 14:39:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8ECE37B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:39:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAOMdfc11816; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 01:39:41 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ache) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 01:39:41 +0300 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Arun Sharma Cc: i18n@FreeBSD.ORG, bsd-india@sharmas.dhs.org Subject: Re: New locale: hi_IN.ISCII Message-ID: <20011124223941.GA11776@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20011120144700.GA34211@nagual.pp.ru> <20011122044135.2F60737B405@hub.freebsd.org> <20011122231222.GA66927@nagual.pp.ru> <20011122160833.A7277@sharma-home.net> <20011123002039.GB67722@nagual.pp.ru> <20011123231144.A19119@sharma-home.net> <20011124222342.GA11600@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011124222342.GA11600@nagual.pp.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 01:23:43 +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 23:11:44 -0800, Arun Sharma wrote: > > > http://www.sharma-home.net/~adsharma/projects/hi_IN/ > > > > 1. hi.tar.gz contains two locales: ISCII-DEV and UTF-8. These are all > > new files, that go into /usr/src/share. > > 2. The patch is for Makefiles only. > > > > The tar.gz includes IBM's charmap.utf8. > > Please put ISCII-DEV patch/data separately with its own map.ISCII-dev for > colldef. We are not ready yet for utf8 charmap due to 8bit collate tables > format currently used. Moreover, ENCODING "ISCII" Is not supported by libc. I don't understand, is ISCII-DEV multibyte or not. If it is multibyte, and not one of EUC, UTF2, BIG5, MSKanji, its scheme must be implemented first in libc. If it is NOT multibyte, encoding should be NONE and correct 256bytes map.ISCII-DEV should be supplied for colldef, not just 00..FF order. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Sat Nov 24 15:18:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA4337B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 15:18:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAONITw12830; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 02:18:30 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ache) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 02:18:29 +0300 From: =?koi8-r?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: Eugene Ossintsev Cc: freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: about font cleanup Message-ID: <20011124231829.GA12795@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010727132229.B8030-300000@idemnia.ath.cx> <3BFCCE33.A73F605E@MyRealBox.com> <20011122153813.GA62978@nagual.pp.ru> <3BFD87B2.E9691603@MyRealBox.com> <20011122232925.GA67153@nagual.pp.ru> <20011123201920.A396@badger.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011123201920.A396@badger.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 20:19:20 +0100, Eugene Ossintsev wrote: > On Fri, 23 Nov 2001, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > > BTW, I see we have lots of fonts with broken standards conformance, > > so I plan big fonts cleanup in near time. > > What do you think of the font quality cleanup? I think we can prepare > nicer console fonts for FreeBSD than we have at the moment. And, at > least, in case of Latin and Cyrillic they can look identical in style > sense. It would be really great! > > I've got some fonts written from scratch and proved bit by bit by me > and two friends of mine. They are KOI8-R'd. We can start from them and > produce all others. Or we can start from any other font. But the final > point will be the quality original FreeBSD console fonts. Why not? It > sounds not so crazy? PR-submitted fonts always welcome. BTW, in normal Russian setup KOI8-R fonts not used, CP866 fonts + screenmap to KOI8-R used instead to avoid VGA 9bit problem on wide fonts. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Sat Nov 24 15:26: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from smtp6.port.ru (mx6.port.ru [194.67.57.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D430037B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 15:26:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from a1as04-p141.mch.tli.de ([195.252.162.141] helo=badger.home) by smtp6.port.ru with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #1) id 167mBP-000GND-00 for freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 02:26:03 +0300 Received: (from gene@localhost) by badger.home (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAONS8I00227 for freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:28:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gene) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:28:08 +0100 From: Eugene Ossintsev To: freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: about font cleanup Message-ID: <20011125002808.A211@badger.home> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010727132229.B8030-300000@idemnia.ath.cx> <3BFCCE33.A73F605E@MyRealBox.com> <20011122153813.GA62978@nagual.pp.ru> <3BFD87B2.E9691603@MyRealBox.com> <20011122232925.GA67153@nagual.pp.ru> <20011123201920.A396@badger.home> <20011124231829.GA12795@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011124231829.GA12795@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 02:18:29AM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, áÎÄÒÅÊ þÅÒÎÏ× wrote: >> I've got some fonts written from scratch... > PR-submitted fonts always welcome. > BTW, in normal Russian setup KOI8-R fonts not used, CP866 fonts + > screenmap to KOI8-R used instead to avoid VGA 9bit problem on wide > fonts. Oops! Sorry, I meant, of course, CP866 fonts. -- Eugene To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Sat Nov 24 16:31: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from sharmas.dhs.org (cpe-66-1-147-119.ca.sprintbbd.net [66.1.147.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C0037B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:31:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by sharmas.dhs.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 6A1F65E293; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:35:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:35:35 -0800 From: Arun Sharma To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: i18n@FreeBSD.ORG, bsd-india@sharmas.dhs.org Subject: Re: New locale: hi_IN.ISCII Message-ID: <20011124163535.A24114@sharma-home.net> References: <20011120144700.GA34211@nagual.pp.ru> <20011122044135.2F60737B405@hub.freebsd.org> <20011122231222.GA66927@nagual.pp.ru> <20011122160833.A7277@sharma-home.net> <20011123002039.GB67722@nagual.pp.ru> <20011123231144.A19119@sharma-home.net> <20011124222342.GA11600@nagual.pp.ru> <20011124223941.GA11776@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20011124223941.GA11776@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 01:39:41AM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 01:39:41AM +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > Moreover, > > ENCODING "ISCII" > > Is not supported by libc. I don't understand, is ISCII-DEV multibyte or > not. It's single byte. 0x00-0x7f same as ASCII and the higher bytes used to encode Indic scripts. > > If it is multibyte, and not one of EUC, UTF2, BIG5, MSKanji, its scheme > must be implemented first in libc. > > If it is NOT multibyte, encoding should be NONE and correct 256bytes > map.ISCII-DEV should be supplied for colldef, not just 00..FF order. Will do. -Arun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Sat Nov 24 16:31:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F9D37B417 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:31:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 167nCY-0002Hh-00; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 01:31:18 +0100 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAP004t05703 for freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 01:00:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: charmap for UTF-8 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:00:04 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <9tpca4$541$2@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: <20011123221320.A18485@sharma-home.net> <20011124222731.GC11600@nagual.pp.ru> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > I don't know details of IBM public license. http://www.opensource.org/licenses/ibmpl.html > If it have no additional restrictions compared with FreeBSD > license, it could be used. It requires that source is made available and has all kinds of questionable legal provisions. Not acceptable for inclusion into the main FreeBSD tree, possibly acceptable for gnu/. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message