From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Jan 7 16:32:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from ritsuko.xware.cx (ritsuko.xware.cx [203.24.211.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5781F37B405 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:32:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by ritsuko.xware.cx (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 55185F053; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 11:32:11 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 11:32:11 +1100 From: Crossfire To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Subject: DoV patch Message-ID: <20020108003211.GB20096@ritsuko.xware.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i X-Face: 1_cwV#-Eyv`RXe|JgLID]fWI-xnk962I)$LufLo.W'Y;S-B8jl#<,n-@'~7WHtl;J DJ&RiZA X-Quoth-the-Raven: nevermore Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey all, Hopefully this isn't a bit premature, but I've just cleaned up Guy Ellis' DoV patch for isdn4bsd so it applies and builds on the FreeBSD 4.5 prerelease kernel. It seems to work, but due to issues in our access concatenator's MultinkPPP stack, I haven't been able to sustain a call for more than about a minute - I'm not sure where the problem lies on that front. But as far as I can tell, it works. (the fact our AC can accept our call is one of the initial signs that it is really DoV) If anybody manages to make this work reliably, drop me an email (I'm not on the list) - I'd like to know if our dropout issues were a PPP issue or a DoV one. The patch is in unified (3 lines context) format and should be applied against /usr/src/sys/i4b/layer3/i4b_l2if.c Ignore the dates in the head - the clock on my FreeBSD box is broken because the board is missing its battery. http://kitsumi.xware.cx/tech/i4b_l2if.c.DoV.diff C. -- --==============================================-- Crossfire | This email was brought to you xfire@xware.cx | on 100% Recycled Electrons --==============================================-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Tue Jan 8 6:26:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from office.gt.com.ua (office.gt.com.ua [212.82.192.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A1A37B41B for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 06:25:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from furist.kiev.ua (monitor.office.gt.com.ua [10.100.1.207]) by office.gt.com.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA86842 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:25:50 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from siaffa@furist.kiev.ua) Received: (from siaffa@localhost) by furist.kiev.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA21348 for freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:25:48 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from siaffa) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:25:48 +0200 From: Vyacheslav Furist To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Subject: 4.4 Release and Planet ISDN adapter (chip Winbond 6692) Message-ID: <20020108162548.C4004@monitor.office.gt.com.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I have Planet IA-128P ISDN adapter (chip Winbond 6692). I try use it for FreeBSD 4.4 Release. My kernel config include this strings: ........ device iwic pseudo-device "i4bq921" pseudo-device "i4bq931" pseudo-device "i4b" pseudo-device "i4btrc" 4 pseudo-device "i4bctl" pseudo-device "i4brbch" 4 pseudo-device "i4btel" 4 pseudo-device "i4bipr" 4 pseudo-device "i4bisppp" 4 options IPR_VJ options IPR_LOG=n ............... But after reboot, new kernel don't detect isdn card, and say: pci0: (vendor=0x1043, dev=0x0675) at 16.0 irq 11 Why? Thanks for any information. -- Slava To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Tue Jan 8 7:48:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from hcshh.hcs.de (hcshh.hcs.de [194.123.40.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF54437B404 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 07:48:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hcshh.hcs.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40625BA0E; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:48:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from hcswork.hcs.de (hcswork.hcs.de [172.24.124.5]) by hcshh.hcs.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D76BA08; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:48:30 +0100 (CET) Received: by hcswork.hcs.de (Postfix, from userid 200) id 9B17C3B9; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:48:49 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: 4.4 Release and Planet ISDN adapter (chip Winbond 6692) In-Reply-To: <20020108162548.C4004@monitor.office.gt.com.ua> "from Vyacheslav Furist at Jan 8, 2002 04:25:48 pm" To: Vyacheslav Furist Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:48:49 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Reply-To: hm@hcs.de Organization: HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL84 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <20020108154849.9B17C3B9@hcswork.hcs.de> From: hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) X-Virus-Scanned-HCS: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From the keyboard of Vyacheslav Furist: > I have Planet IA-128P ISDN adapter (chip Winbond 6692). > But after reboot, new kernel don't detect isdn card, and say: > pci0: (vendor=0x1043, dev=0x0675) at 16.0 irq 11 The driver also needs to know the subvendor and the subdevice and your card is not in the list of known cards. You can find out the id's by booting with the -v flag and looking at the dmesg output or by using "pciconf -l". After that, the id's have to be added to /usr/src/sys/i4b/layer1/iwic/i4b_iwic_pci.c, static struct winids and you need to compile and boot a new kernel. Don't forget to send diffs when it works .. ;-) hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 55 97 47-70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 55 97 47-77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm [at] hcs.de D-22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Tue Jan 8 9: 2:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from jhs.muc.de (jhs.muc.de [193.149.49.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5037237B419 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 09:02:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jhs@localhost) by jhs.muc.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) id g08GgRP47628; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:42:27 GMT (envelope-from jhs) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:42:27 GMT Message-Id: <200201081642.g08GgRP47628@jhs.muc.de> To: isdn@freebsd.org Subject: line induction observed by i4b ? From: "Julian Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd - Munich Unix & Internet consultancy X-Web: http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/ Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I wonder if I'm getting induction on my isdn line ? The Tengleman shop under me shares same cellar & cable runs I believe, & my log shows this: isdnd.log:05.01.2002 13:50:43 CHD 00199 Call from NotAvailable to 23269369 isdnd.log:05.01.2002 13:50:47 CHD 00200 Call from NotAvailable to 23269369 isdnd.log:08.01.2002 15:57:30 CHD 00218 Call from "TW Tengelmann" to 23269369 isdnd.log:08.01.2002 15:57:34 CHD 00219 Call from "TW Tengelmann" to 23269369 isdnd.log:08.01.2002 15:57:54 CHD 00220 Call from "TW Tengelmann" to 23269369 isdnd.log:08.01.2002 15:57:58 CHD 00221 Call from "TW Tengelmann" to 23269369 I had a word with the manageress of Tengelmann just after the last event, & she said yes she or someone had been phoning from 26022660 (which is aliased to TW Tengelmann in my alias file). +49.89.23269369 answerphone announces as "something & Thomas Lange" She said she knows that number too ! We are both puzzled ! I'm intrigued, All I can think of is : - line induction from paralle cables - I've registered for DSL, maybe D.Telekom have changed my line impedance at the exchange end (& as I live in middle of city, it'll be a short cable, so inpedance my end will have changed too. ( I got an envelope today with T-Online software (that I presume & hope will be fully irrelevant under Unix) so they're getting ready to switch my line I guess, though I haven't received a splitter yet.) I've also wondered what the security is on ISDN lines. On analogue, people sometimes break into cellars, put an active switcher on cable, & make calls at neighbours expense for years before if ever anyone has a clue, What's the feasability for ISDN ? & DSL ? How safe are we ? OK, I dont expect Tengelman (a big food chain in Germany) is up to tricks, but there's something strange happening & it reminds me about those cables in the common cellar area of this big building. Julian J.Stacey Munich Unix (FreeBSD, Linux etc) Independent Consultant Free Software with Free Sources: http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/free/ Ihr Rauchen = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz ! Schnupftabak probieren ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Tue Jan 8 15:26:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mail.raditex.se (www.raditex.se [192.5.36.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2F437B404 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:26:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from gandalf.sickla.raditex.se (gandalf.raditex.se [192.5.36.18]) by mail.raditex.se (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g08NQw805054 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 23:26:59 GMT (envelope-from gh@raditex.se) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 01:30:44 +0000 (GMT) From: G Hasse To: Subject: isdnphone Message-ID: <20020109012823.F2359-100000@gandalf.raditex.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How do I use isdnphone? I have a small script that looks like this ------------------------------------------------------------- #!/bin/sh # Call someone /usr/sbin/isdnphone -h -n0705530012 # whit until someone answer the phone sleep 20 # Play a sound /bin/dd of=3D/dev/i4btel0 if=3D/home/gh/cron/sound.al bs=3D2k > /dev/null 2= >&1 # Hang up hone /usr/sbin/isdnphone -h ---------------------------------------------------------- This works once. Then I get no calls any more. I have to restart the idsnd-daemon. In the logfiles I get i4b-L3 next_l3state: FSM illegal state, state =3D ST_U0 - Null, event =3D EV_DISCRQ - L4 DISC REQ! What does this mean? G=F6ran Hasse ---------------------------------------------------------------- G=F6ran Hasse email: gh@raditex.se Tel: 08-6949270 Raditex AB http://www.raditex.se Sickla Alle 7, 1tr Mob: 070-5530148 131 34 NACKA, SWEDEN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Tue Jan 8 16:23: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mail.raditex.se (www.raditex.se [192.5.36.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7874C37B422 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:23:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from gandalf.sickla.raditex.se (gandalf.raditex.se [192.5.36.18]) by mail.raditex.se (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g090Np805111 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 00:23:51 GMT (envelope-from gh@raditex.se) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 02:27:37 +0000 (GMT) From: G Hasse To: Subject: isdnphone Message-ID: <20020109022554.V2408-100000@gandalf.raditex.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org More findings... If i let my script run to completion there is no problem, but if i hang up the line from the other end the isdn-side hangs. How do i convert a *.wav file to *.al file. I have figured out this before - but forgot how... GH ---------------------------------------------------------------- G=F6ran Hasse email: gh@raditex.se Tel: 08-6949270 Raditex AB http://www.raditex.se Sickla Alle 7, 1tr Mob: 070-5530148 131 34 NACKA, SWEDEN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Tue Jan 8 19: 7:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from fw1.gamesden.net.au (fw1.gamesden.net.au [203.55.198.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6E437B417 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 19:07:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (copywrite@localhost) by fw1.gamesden.net.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g0938gQ34889 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:08:42 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from copywrite@lyssophobia.ath.cx) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:08:41 +0800 (WST) From: Copy Write X-X-Sender: To: Subject: ISDN DoV & FreeBSD 4.3 Message-ID: <20020109110628.O34887-100000@fw1.gamesden.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I've recently purchased a NETjet-S ISDN PCI card for my home FreeBSD gateway. I have a few questions, being new to the list & all, so please bare with me. 1 - Is it possible to use isdnd to get a dual channel (128k) DoV link happening in FreeBSD? 2 - Is it possible to use ppp to get a dual channel (128k) DoV link happening in FreeBSD? If so, what do I need to do this, and could someone point me in the right direction of how to do it, thanks. - cwr. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Wed Jan 9 0:57:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from hcshh.hcs.de (hcshh.hcs.de [194.123.40.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4210E37B405 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 00:57:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hcshh.hcs.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B35BA0E; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:26:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from hcswork.hcs.de (hcswork.hcs.de [172.24.124.5]) by hcshh.hcs.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D39BA08; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:26:41 +0100 (CET) Received: by hcswork.hcs.de (Postfix, from userid 200) id B898C3C3; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:26:59 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: 4.4 Release and Planet ISDN adapter (chip Winbond 6692) In-Reply-To: <20020108204705.D4004@monitor.office.gt.com.ua> "from Vyacheslav Furist at Jan 8, 2002 08:47:05 pm" To: Vyacheslav Furist Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:26:59 +0100 (MET) Cc: ISDN Mailinglist Reply-To: hm@hcs.de Organization: HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL84 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <20020109082659.B898C3C3@hcswork.hcs.de> From: hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) X-Virus-Scanned-HCS: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The id's can be found from the "pciconf -l" output as follows: > none1@pci0:16:0: class=0x028000 card=0x17040675 chip=0x06751043 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 ^^^^->vendor ^^^^----->device ^^^^-----> subvendor ^^^^---------> subdevice hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 55 97 47-70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 55 97 47-77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm [at] hcs.de D-22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Wed Jan 9 1:49: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from hcshh.hcs.de (hcshh.hcs.de [194.123.40.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5732837B404 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 01:48:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hcshh.hcs.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C91ABA0E; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:48:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from hcswork.hcs.de (hcswork.hcs.de [172.24.124.5]) by hcshh.hcs.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66AEBA08; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:48:38 +0100 (CET) Received: by hcswork.hcs.de (Postfix, from userid 200) id 987C4535; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:48:57 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: isdnphone In-Reply-To: <20020109022554.V2408-100000@gandalf.raditex.se> "from G Hasse at Jan 9, 2002 02:27:37 am" To: G Hasse Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:48:57 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: hm@hcs.de Organization: HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL84 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <20020109094857.987C4535@hcswork.hcs.de> From: hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) X-Virus-Scanned-HCS: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > If i let my script run to completion there is no problem, but > if i hang up the line from the other end the isdn-side hangs. All this dialling out and hanging up by using isdnphone is higly experimental stuff. What is missing in the implementation is some sort of protocol which handles the interaction of kernel<--->isdnd<--->isdnphone<--->user(program/script) and the things you do observe is a direct indication of the fact that there is currently no such protocol. 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I have a few questions, being new to the list & all, so please > bare with me. > > 1 - Is it possible to use isdnd to get a dual channel (128k) DoV link > happening in FreeBSD? > > 2 - Is it possible to use ppp to get a dual channel (128k) DoV link > happening in FreeBSD? 1 and 2 are the same things, you need isdnd in all cases to access a remote side. DoV is ISDN related, dual channel is PPP related. For dual channel, yes you can use userland ppp(8) with isdn to get multilink PPP ISDN connections. For DoV, i have real no idea. DoV is not used in this side of the world, at least i know nobody who is using it. IIRC, there were two patches for i4b posted to this list to make it support DoV, the first was about 3 month ago and the other was some days ago. You might have success of getting DoV to run with one (possibly the later one) of those patches, you have to try it out and make it work. hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 55 97 47-70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 55 97 47-77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm [at] hcs.de D-22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Wed Jan 9 2:52:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mailout09.sul.t-online.com (mailout09.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD6D37B402 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 02:52:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from fwd04.sul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 16OFKV-000463-0A; Wed, 09 Jan 2002 10:47:31 +0100 Received: from peedub.jennejohn.org (520017439985-0001@[217.228.214.221]) by fmrl04.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 16OFKO-1Ob1uqC; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:47:24 +0100 Received: by peedub.jennejohn.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g099lgP76723; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:47:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from garyj) Message-Id: <200201090947.g099lgP76723@peedub.jennejohn.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Gary Jennejohn Reply-To: garyj@jennejohn.org To: Copy Write , Subject: Re: ISDN DoV & FreeBSD 4.3 Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:47:41 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <20020109110628.O34887-100000@fw1.gamesden.net.au> In-Reply-To: <20020109110628.O34887-100000@fw1.gamesden.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Sender: 520017439985-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday 09 January 2002 04:08, Copy Write wrote: > Hi, > I've recently purchased a NETjet-S ISDN PCI card for my home > FreeBSD gateway. I have a few questions, being new to the list > & all, so please bare with me. > > 1 - Is it possible to use isdnd to get a dual channel (128k) > DoV link happening in FreeBSD? > not directly > 2 - Is it possible to use ppp to get a dual channel (128k) DoV > link happening in FreeBSD? > yes, I think. > If so, what do I need to do this, and could someone point me > in the right direction of how to do it, thanks. > see /usr/share/examples/ppp/ppp.conf.isdn and the ppp manpage -- Gary Jennejohn garyj@jennejohn.org gj@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Wed Jan 9 8:46:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from cubical.fi (ip212-226-173-1.adsl.kpnqwest.fi [212.226.173.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09A437B402 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 08:46:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by cubical.fi (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g09GkMe18402; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 18:46:22 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from jml@cubical.fi) Received: from portal (jml@portal [192.168.42.3]) by cubical.fi (8.11.6/8.11.6av) with ESMTP id g09GkEY18393; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 18:46:21 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from jml@cubical.fi) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 18:46:14 +0200 (EET) From: Juha-Matti Liukkonen X-X-Sender: To: G Hasse Cc: Subject: Re: isdnphone In-Reply-To: <20020109012823.F2359-100000@gandalf.raditex.se> Message-ID: <20020109183533.S18046-100000@portal.cs-intra.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, your use of isdnphone looks OK to me; however, the error you are getting is a ...feature of isdnd: in usr.sbin/i4b/isdnd/fsm.c, table state_tab[] defines what events are accepted when the call is in which state -- and it does not (basically) accept more than one hangup per call, be the hangup local or remote. Specifically it does not allow for the situation where _both_ ends hang up the call, since that generates two disconnects, and the latter pulls the entry to illegal state (from which it does not recover). Unfortunately in telephony applications, this is a relatively common phenomena. You might want to mofidy the said table as I have: change the {F_ill, ST_ILL} in the ST_IDLE column for EV_MDI into {F_NcNa,ST_IDLE}, it makes isdnd accept a remote disconnect on an already disconnected call without invalidating the config entry. It already does so for a local disconnect (EV_DRQ) -- so you can actually do multiple local hangups even to a disconnected entry. Br, Juha On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, G Hasse wrote: > > How do I use isdnphone? > > I have a small script that looks like this > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > #!/bin/sh > > # Call someone > /usr/sbin/isdnphone -h -n0705530012 > > # whit until someone answer the phone > sleep 20 > > # Play a sound > /bin/dd of=/dev/i4btel0 if=/home/gh/cron/sound.al bs=2k > /dev/null 2>&1 > > # Hang up hone > /usr/sbin/isdnphone -h > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > This works once. Then I get no calls any more. I have to > restart the idsnd-daemon. > > In the logfiles I get > > i4b-L3 next_l3state: FSM illegal state, state = ST_U0 - Null, event = > EV_DISCRQ - L4 DISC REQ! > > What does this mean? > > Göran Hasse > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Göran Hasse email: gh@raditex.se Tel: 08-6949270 > Raditex AB http://www.raditex.se > Sickla Alle 7, 1tr Mob: 070-5530148 > 131 34 NACKA, SWEDEN > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message > -- Cubical Solutions Ltd, Juha-Matti Liukkonen Phone: +358 40 5280142 Email: jml@cubical.fi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Thu Jan 10 0:46: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from hcshh.hcs.de (hcshh.hcs.de [194.123.40.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7303F37B416 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:46:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hcshh.hcs.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75B2BA0E; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:45:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from hcswork.hcs.de (hcswork.hcs.de [172.24.124.5]) by hcshh.hcs.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5343BA08; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:45:41 +0100 (CET) Received: by hcswork.hcs.de (Postfix, from userid 200) id 7915559F; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:46:00 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: isdnphone In-Reply-To: <20020109183533.S18046-100000@portal.cs-intra.net> "from Juha-Matti Liukkonen at Jan 9, 2002 06:46:14 pm" To: Juha-Matti Liukkonen Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:46:00 +0100 (MET) Cc: G Hasse , freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Reply-To: hm@hcs.de Organization: HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL84 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <20020110084600.7915559F@hcswork.hcs.de> From: hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) X-Virus-Scanned-HCS: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From the keyboard of Juha-Matti Liukkonen: > Hi, > > your use of isdnphone looks OK to me; however, the error you are getting > is a ...feature of isdnd: in usr.sbin/i4b/isdnd/fsm.c, table state_tab[] > defines what events are accepted when the call is in which state -- and it > does not (basically) accept more than one hangup per call, be the hangup > local or remote. Specifically it does not allow for the situation where > _both_ ends hang up the call, since that generates two disconnects, and > the latter pulls the entry to illegal state (from which it does not > recover). Unfortunately in telephony applications, this is a relatively > common phenomena. > > You might want to mofidy the said table as I have: change the {F_ill, > ST_ILL} in the ST_IDLE column for EV_MDI into {F_NcNa,ST_IDLE}, it makes > isdnd accept a remote disconnect on an already disconnected call without > invalidating the config entry. It already does so for a local disconnect > (EV_DRQ) -- so you can actually do multiple local hangups even to a > disconnected entry. Do you think that this fix should make it into the FreeBSD source tree ? hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 55 97 47-70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 55 97 47-77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm [at] hcs.de D-22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Thu Jan 10 0:48:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from hcshh.hcs.de (hcshh.hcs.de [194.123.40.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB4037B400 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:48:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hcshh.hcs.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D94EBA0E; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:48:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from hcswork.hcs.de (hcswork.hcs.de [172.24.124.5]) by hcshh.hcs.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D61BA08; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:47:56 +0100 (CET) Received: by hcswork.hcs.de (Postfix, from userid 200) id 8904A59F; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:48:15 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: line induction observed by i4b ? In-Reply-To: <200201081642.g08GgRP47628@jhs.muc.de> "from Julian Stacey at Jan 8, 2002 04:42:27 pm" To: Julian Stacey Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:48:15 +0100 (MET) Cc: isdn@freebsd.org Reply-To: hm@hcs.de Organization: HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL84 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <20020110084815.8904A59F@hcswork.hcs.de> From: hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) X-Virus-Scanned-HCS: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From the keyboard of Julian Stacey: > I wonder if I'm getting induction on my isdn line ? Very unlikely. hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 55 97 47-70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 55 97 47-77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm [at] hcs.de D-22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Thu Jan 10 11: 7: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.kdt.de (ns2.kdt.de [195.8.224.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C3937B416 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:07:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from jocelyn.sub-etha.wtal.de (line8edb.kdt.de [213.240.142.219]) by smtp.kdt.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA24819; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 20:06:55 +0100 Received: from marie.sub-etha.wtal.de (marie.sub-etha.wtal.de [213.240.145.124]) by jocelyn.sub-etha.wtal.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A910711; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 20:05:52 +0100 (CET) Received: by marie.sub-etha.wtal.de (Postfix, from userid 1501) id C7F516510; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 20:01:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 20:01:05 +0100 From: Ignatios Souvatzis To: Crossfire Cc: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DoV patch Message-ID: <20020110200105.E21981@marie> References: <20020108003211.GB20096@ritsuko.xware.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020108003211.GB20096@ritsuko.xware.cx>; from xfire@xware.cx on Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 11:32:11AM +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 11:32:11AM +1100, Crossfire wrote: > Hopefully this isn't a bit premature, but I've just cleaned up Guy > Ellis' DoV patch for isdn4bsd so it applies and builds on the FreeBSD would you (or somebody else) please expand "DoV" for me? Regards, -is To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Thu Jan 10 12:45: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from sep.oldach.net (sep.oldach.net [194.180.25.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6452337B416 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:45:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from hmo@localhost) by sep.oldach.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/hmo27jul01) id g0AKiZ096864; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:44:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from hmo) Message-Id: <200201102044.g0AKiZ096864@sep.oldach.net> Subject: Re: DoV patch In-Reply-To: <20020110200105.E21981@marie> from Ignatios Souvatzis at "Jan 10, 2002 8: 1: 5 pm" To: is@netbsd.org (Ignatios Souvatzis) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:44:35 +0100 (CET) Cc: xfire@xware.cx, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG From: freebsd-isdn@oldach.net (Helge Oldach) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ignatios Souvatzis: > would you (or somebody else) please expand "DoV" for me? Data over Voice. For reasons of telco stupidity it is common in various countries (namely in Australia) that telcos sell 64 kbps channels that are used for voice services cheaper than 64 kbps channels that are used for data services. Hence DoV is a workaround which pretends voice bearer services but transmits data. Basically DoV is transmitting blue bits where only red bits are allowed. Which immediately brings us to the next question: What is the common color of a bit? :-) Seriously: A pitfall might be that voice could possibly be compressed on the long distance, in which case transmitting data of course won't work. On the other hand DoV is often used to connect to the local ISP, however compressing voice on the local loop is a rather pointless exercise. Helge To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Thu Jan 10 21:50:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1401637B400 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:50:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13659 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jan 2002 05:50:05 -0000 Received: from p3ee2164d.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO mail.gsinet.sittig.org) (62.226.22.77) by mail.gmx.net (mp011-rz3) with SMTP; 11 Jan 2002 05:50:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 45346 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2002 19:18:28 -0000 Received: from shell.gsinet.sittig.org (192.168.11.153) by mail.gsinet.sittig.org with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 19:18:28 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by shell.gsinet.sittig.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id g0AJISc45342 for freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 20:18:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sittig) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 20:18:28 +0100 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: isdnphone Message-ID: <20020110201828.H1494@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020109022554.V2408-100000@gandalf.raditex.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020109022554.V2408-100000@gandalf.raditex.se>; from gh@raditex.se on Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 02:27:37AM +0000 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 02:27 +0000, G Hasse wrote: > > How do i convert a *.wav file to *.al file. I have > figured out this before - but forgot how... $ head -2 $PORTSDIR/audio/sox/pkg-descr sox translates sound samples between different file formats, and performs various sound effects. It's command line driven, that's why it perfectly fits batch jobs. No need for fiddling with mice ... :) virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. 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Spam wünschen wir in unserem Service nicht und möchten dies auch nicht unterstützen. http://www.bluenetdesign.de spam@bluenetdesign.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- Abmelden: http://www.bluenetdesign.de/cgi-bin/nls/newsletter.cgi?id=Nitro&action=unsubscribe&submitemail=freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Jan 11 12:48: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.kdt.de (ns2.kdt.de [195.8.224.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F02437B419 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 12:47:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from jocelyn.sub-etha.wtal.de (line8ec9.kdt.de [213.240.142.201]) by smtp.kdt.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA17827; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 21:47:40 +0100 Received: from marie.sub-etha.wtal.de (marie.sub-etha.wtal.de [213.240.145.124]) by jocelyn.sub-etha.wtal.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96D17D; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 20:55:59 +0100 (CET) Received: by marie.sub-etha.wtal.de (Postfix, from userid 1501) id A30566510; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 20:51:09 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 20:51:09 +0100 From: Ignatios Souvatzis To: Helge Oldach Cc: Ignatios Souvatzis , xfire@xware.cx, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DoV patch Message-ID: <20020111205109.B23320@marie> References: <20020110200105.E21981@marie> <200201102044.g0AKiZ096864@sep.oldach.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200201102044.g0AKiZ096864@sep.oldach.net>; from freebsd-isdn@oldach.net on Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 09:44:35PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 09:44:35PM +0100, Helge Oldach wrote: > Seriously: A pitfall might be that voice could possibly be compressed on > the long distance, in which case transmitting data of course won't work. Precisely the headache I would develop if I hung off one of the affected Telcos. Fortunately, while the Deutsche Telekom may be strange in lots of other ways, it doesn't charge more for data (actually, all major and a couple minor ISPs get discount prices for the end-user connections so that Internet actually is cheaper than a local call). Regards, Ignatios To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message