From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Mar 2 15:20:55 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE9F37B405 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 15:20:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from out002.verizon.net (out002pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD36043FDF for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 15:20:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sfmc68@bellatlantic.net) Received: from bellatlantic.net ([138.88.89.120]) by out002.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030302232050.XTIH6546.out002.verizon.net@bellatlantic.net> for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 17:20:50 -0600 Message-ID: <3E629444.3040004@bellatlantic.net> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 18:31:16 -0500 From: bob smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha Subject: SRM Firmware upgrade queston, 164LX driving me nuts. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out002.verizon.net from [138.88.89.120] at Sun, 2 Mar 2003 17:20:49 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Maybe someone can help me. I have snagged the latest firmware from the dec site, snagged the release notes, created the floppy with the file fwupdate.exe on a pc using a FAT formatted floppy. The version of firmwre seems to be referred to as 5.8 for the LX and SX, 5.6 for the 164, fyi. I have booted my LX, gotten the Alphabios screen, selected update, gotten it to seitch to the serial port, after it seems to boot from floppy (green led on, movement of floppy heads) and all seems well. I get the update prompt, UPD> and I tell it to update firmware. Now, here is where I get confused ; the releasenotes, page 11, talks about a floppy with file LX164SRM.ROM (downloaded from the ftp site) but the directions from the site don't seem to say anything bout this, all they talk about is createing the fwupdate.exe. Going thru the archives I have kept since 2000, I see a lot of refs to 164 SRM one ref to 164LX alphabios problem, but no reporrt of success getting the puppy over to srm. For the LX, the fwupdate is 1.1MB or so, and the rom images is about 550K. Just wont fit on a single floppy.... tried two floppies using the alpabios -path command with no success. I am about to get out a couple of books for more colorful metaphors.... I have the flash jumper on the right spot, trying to dump this alpha bios and get to srm. Help thanks bob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Mar 3 8:38:41 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6429637B401 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 08:38:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from sinamail.com (61-221-29-145.HINET-IP.hinet.net [61.221.29.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE3443FAF for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 08:38:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from suppergeorge@sinamail.com) From: star@yahoo.com.tw To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?prO+97d8p0HEQLdOpWi5wbjVttw/Pw==?= Reply-To: suppergeorge@sinamail.com Date: 04 Mar 2003 00:43:43 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20030303163836.DFE3443FAF@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 為什麼有人會比你成功10倍
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８小時＊３６５天＊３０年＝８７,６００小時
如果你的時薪100元，你一輩子賺876萬元！
如果你的時薪150元，你一輩子賺1314萬元！
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看起來好像很多，看清楚！一年工作365天，要工作30年！而且不吃不喝！
這樣的收入，足夠三餐溫飽；買車子、房子勉強夠用；別忘了，還有子女的教育費、自己的養老金、還有『夢想』等待實現！
這樣的一輩子，你甘心嗎？
身為員工的你，每天辛苦為的是什麼？家庭、小孩？你有沒有想過，你上班一輩子，將來你的小孩能承接你的職位繼續做下去嗎？（除非你自己是老闆）
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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Mar 3 9:42:51 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F28B737B408 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:42:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from sinamail.com (61-221-29-145.HINET-IP.hinet.net [61.221.29.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B356643F93 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:42:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from suppergeorge@sinamail.com) From: star@yahoo.com.tw To: alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?prO+97d8p0HEQLdOpWi5wbjVttw/Pw==?= Reply-To: suppergeorge@sinamail.com Date: 04 Mar 2003 01:47:55 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20030303174247.B356643F93@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 為什麼有人會比你成功10倍
主旨: 這或許是您正在尋找的機會喔
這或許是您正在找的機會哦！
對不起！打擾了，如果因此造成您的困擾，請直接刪除本信及點選下方「不想再收信」，我們會將您的資料刪除！
為什麼有人會比你成功10倍，收入多100倍、甚至多1000倍，難道他有比你多聰明這麼多嗎？
答案肯定不是的！
想一想！那些收入比我們高很多，生活比我們好很多的人！
他們到底做了什麼是我們所不知道的事？
而我們到底做錯了什麼、又錯過了什麼？
想不想知道人家怎麼做倒的！
你相信「時間＝金錢」、還是「時間＞金錢」

舉例：

我們一天工作8小時，一年工作365天，一輩子工作30年！那我們一輩子的總工作時數？
８小時＊３６５天＊３０年＝８７,６００小時
如果你的時薪100元，你一輩子賺876萬元！
如果你的時薪150元，你一輩子賺1314萬元！
如果你的時薪200元，你一輩子賺1752萬元！
看起來好像很多，看清楚！一年工作365天，要工作30年！而且不吃不喝！
這樣的收入，足夠三餐溫飽；買車子、房子勉強夠用；別忘了，還有子女的教育費、自己的養老金、還有『夢想』等待實現！
這樣的一輩子，你甘心嗎？
身為員工的你，每天辛苦為的是什麼？家庭、小孩？你有沒有想過，你上班一輩子，將來你的小孩能承接你的職位繼續做下去嗎？（除非你自己是老闆）
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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Mar 3 14: 2: 5 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EBC237B401 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 14:02:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.alfredstate.edu (mail2.alfredstate.edu [136.224.32.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74B843FBD for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 14:02:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from MyersJW@alfredstate.edu) Received: from jwmxp.alfredstate.edu ([136.224.55.181]) by mail2.alfredstate.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 3 Mar 2003 17:02:02 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20030303165608.019ade60@mail2.alfredstate.edu> X-Sender: myersjw@mail2.alfredstate.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:02:02 -0500 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jon Myers Subject: sio1 reserved? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2003 22:02:02.0592 (UTC) FILETIME=[8550FE00:01C2E1D0] Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there any way to get at sio1? upon bootup, I always get "sio1: reserved for low-level i/o". What is telling it to be reserved? sio0 suddenly stopped working for no apparent reason. I can send data out, but cannot get anything back in (using tip on two machines to test it. data can only go one way). I had been using this port for a few weeks, and now, suddenly, it wont read in. Could be a bad cable, but it took me quite a while to find the MMJ and adapter that I'm using now. finding another is almost out of the question. sio1 is a standard 9 pin serial port (or so it physically looks like anyway) Any ideas/suggestions? Alpha 800.. 5/333 4.8-PRERELEASE (umm.. I thought I was running -STABLE? tag=RELENG_4) - - - Jon Myers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Mar 3 14: 8: 9 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E98537B401 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 14:08:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8FFA43FBF for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 14:08:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h23M85G1023249 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Mar 2003 17:08:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id h23M80q71838; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 17:08:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15971.53824.561841.502532@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 17:08:00 -0500 (EST) To: Jon Myers Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sio1 reserved? In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20030303165608.019ade60@mail2.alfredstate.edu> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20030303165608.019ade60@mail2.alfredstate.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jon Myers writes: > Is there any way to get at sio1? upon bootup, I always get "sio1: reserved <..> Remove the flags from sio1 in your config file & rebuild your kernel. Eg: Index: GENERIC =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/alpha/conf/GENERIC,v retrieving revision 1.71.2.25 diff -u -r1.71.2.25 GENERIC --- GENERIC 12 Oct 2002 15:25:07 -0000 1.71.2.25 +++ GENERIC 3 Mar 2003 22:06:57 -0000 @@ -122,7 +122,7 @@ # Serial (COM) ports (required) device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 irq 4 -device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 flags 0x50 +device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 This is left over from using sio1 for kernel debugging years ago. I'll see if I can get it yanked before the next release. Its already gone in -current. > Any ideas/suggestions? Alpha 800.. 5/333 4.8-PRERELEASE (umm.. I thought > I was running -STABLE? tag=RELENG_4) -STABLE *is* 4.8-PRELREASE. It will branch at the time of the release, until then, its RELENG_4. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Mar 3 21:25:24 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8ED37B401 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:25:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from trillian.santala.org (ip212-226-173-33.adsl.kpnqwest.fi [212.226.173.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7FE2343F75 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:25:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jake@santala.org) Received: (qmail 75049 invoked by uid 11053); 4 Mar 2003 05:25:19 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 05:25:19 -0000 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 07:25:19 +0200 (EET) From: Jarkko Santala To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Jon Myers , "" Subject: Re: sio1 reserved? In-Reply-To: <15971.53824.561841.502532@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: <20030304072144.E35860-100000@trillian.santala.org> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20030303165608.019ade60@mail2.alfredstate.edu> <15971.53824.561841.502532@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Jon Myers writes: > > Is there any way to get at sio1? upon bootup, I always get "sio1: reserved > <..> > > This is left over from using sio1 for kernel debugging years ago. > I'll see if I can get it yanked before the next release. Its already > gone in -current. Is this the only reason? I think I tried using sio1 on a AS1000 for accessing the serial console of another alpha and the AS1000 would then lock up everyone now and then. The locking up stopped when I stopped using sio1. -jake -- Jarkko Santala http://www.iki.fi/~jake/ System Administrator 2001:670:83:f08::/64 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 4 9:19:57 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6415D37B401 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:19:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net (gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net [198.65.168.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08DA43FAF for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:19:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fred@clift.org) Received: from mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (mx.dmz.orem.verio.net [10.1.1.10]) by gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13433BF18A for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:19:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net (vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net [10.1.1.59]) by mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h24HJrx81501 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:19:53 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:20:26 -0700 (MST) From: X-X-Sender: To: Subject: patch to make 4.3.0 build on FreeBSD 5.0-Current alpha Message-ID: <20030304101407.G78564-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As some of you may remember, I have had problems off and on with X on my miata. I think I've resolved some of these by taking the video card out of the 64-bit pci slots - Xv4 is much better behaved with the card in a 32-bit slot. So much for my recent advice on using the 64-bit slots :). Additionally, I recently downloaded the new 4.3.0 sources and tried to build them (ie not using ports - Eric Anholt, the X ports maintainer is a busy guy and will probably not have a port for this for this for at least a while). So 4.3.0, as it is distributed, doesn't build on FreeBSD alpha (I run -current, but I think the same problems would exist for -stable). I've sent this patch to the devel@xfree86.org mailing list, but figure I'd pass it on here for the time being if any of you are anxious as I was. The following patch makes the build work for me - it runs ok with my matrox millenium II card (though my virtual consoles are permanently blank after X runs the first time, until next reboot - anyone have ideas on that?) It does 3 things -- it makes a prototype for a function that doesn't have one (I couldn't find a header file with this, so I just include it here -- seems ugly), it fixes a problem with system include files (needed an extra one) and it fixes some broken #ifdef'd code (the #endif is several lines past where it should be, making the file have systax errors (the function never finds a final closing '}'). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- # diff xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bsd/alpha_video.c xc.working/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bsd/alpha_video.c 35a36,38 > # ifdef __FreeBSD__ > # include > # endif 38a42 > 53a58,59 > axpDevice bsdGetAXP(void); > 262a269 > #endif 266d272 < #endif ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fred Clift To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 4 23: 6:34 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330C537B401 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 23:06:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6867C43FA3 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 23:06:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h2576Tdh093227; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 23:06:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.7/8.12.7/Submit) id h2576TeT093226; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 23:06:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 23:06:29 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: bob smith Cc: freebsd-alpha Subject: Re: SRM Firmware upgrade queston, 164LX driving me nuts. Message-ID: <20030305070629.GD92645@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org References: <3E629444.3040004@bellatlantic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E629444.3040004@bellatlantic.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Mar 02, 2003 at 06:31:16PM -0500, bob smith wrote: > I get the update prompt, UPD> and I tell it to update firmware. > > Now, here is where I get confused ; > the releasenotes, page 11, talks about a floppy with file > LX164SRM.ROM (downloaded from the ftp site) but the directions > from the site don't seem to say anything bout this, all they > talk about is createing the fwupdate.exe. > > Going thru the archives I have kept since 2000, I see a lot of refs to > 164 SRM one ref to 164LX alphabios problem, but no reporrt of success > getting the puppy over to srm. It can be done -- I did it about 1 1/2 ago. IIRC the obvious place to download the SRM bits from had directions that either didn't work or didn't make sense (I don't recall). I either found another directory in the firmware collection that gave better directions; or I used the pervious firmware collection that had other directions. I know this isn't much help, but I did want you to know it can be done; and we'd *love* to have the steps documented in the email archive once you figure them out. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 4 23:25:58 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359CF37B401 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 23:25:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.netbeat.de (mail.netbeat.de [62.208.140.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E4FB743FA3 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 23:25:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olivleh1@salatschuessel.net) Received: (qmail 11162 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2003 07:26:49 -0000 Received: from p5084ba4b.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO dill.salatschuessel.net) (80.132.186.75) by mail.netbeat.de with SMTP; 5 Mar 2003 07:26:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 68834 invoked by uid 89); 5 Mar 2003 07:25:28 -0000 Message-ID: <20030305072528.68833.qmail@dill.salatschuessel.net> References: <3E629444.3040004@bellatlantic.net> <20030305070629.GD92645@dragon.nuxi.com> In-Reply-To: <20030305070629.GD92645@dragon.nuxi.com> From: lehmann@ans-netz.de To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Cc: bob smith Subject: Re: SRM Firmware upgrade queston, 164LX driving me nuts. Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 08:25:28 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien writes: >> Going thru the archives I have kept since 2000, I see a lot of refs to >> 164 SRM one ref to 164LX alphabios problem, but no reporrt of success >> getting the puppy over to srm. > > It can be done -- I did it about 1 1/2 ago. IIRC the obvious place to > download the SRM bits from had directions that either didn't work or > didn't make sense (I don't recall). I either found another directory in > the firmware collection that gave better directions; or I used the > pervious firmware collection that had other directions. If i recall it correctly, you have to load the .rom file within the AlphaBIOS's Update firmware thingie. And not the fwupdate.exe. If you do the update with the exe, it boot once srm, and after the reboot you have your AlphaBIOS back. I updated 2 machines yet.. and every 2 updates (1/2 year between the BIOS changes) i run into trouble with that update thing. But it should work like i described. If not.. maybe you have to update your SRM after your first boot from AlphaBIOS to srm within SRM. How to do so is described in the SRM manual iirc. But as David wrote.. it can be done. I did it for 2 164LX, one in Apr 2001, and one in Nov 2001. Greetings, Oliver -- Oliver Lehmann @home: lehmann@ans-netz.de @office: oliver.lehmann@mgi.de @www: http://www.pofo.de/ | http://wishlist.ans-netz.de/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Mar 5 5:13: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0998A37B401 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 05:13:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from dove.penix.org (dove.penix.org [216.144.7.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3370643F93 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 05:13:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dp@dove.penix.org) Received: from dove.penix.org (dp@localhost.nls.net [127.0.0.1]) by dove.penix.org (8.12.6/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h25DD1bM035322; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:13:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dp@dove.penix.org) Received: from localhost (dp@localhost) by dove.penix.org (8.12.6/8.12.2/Submit) with ESMTP id h25DD0BK035319; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:13:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dp@dove.penix.org) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:13:00 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Halliday To: freebsd-alpha Cc: bob smith Subject: Re: SRM Firmware upgrade queston, 164LX driving me nuts. In-Reply-To: <20030305070629.GD92645@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: <20030305081115.J35301@dove.penix.org> References: <3E629444.3040004@bellatlantic.net> <20030305070629.GD92645@dragon.nuxi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sun, Mar 02, 2003 at 06:31:16PM -0500, bob smith wrote: > > I get the update prompt, UPD> and I tell it to update firmware. > > > > Now, here is where I get confused ; > > the releasenotes, page 11, talks about a floppy with file > > LX164SRM.ROM (downloaded from the ftp site) but the directions > > from the site don't seem to say anything bout this, all they > > talk about is createing the fwupdate.exe. > > > > Going thru the archives I have kept since 2000, I see a lot of refs to > > 164 SRM one ref to 164LX alphabios problem, but no reporrt of success > > getting the puppy over to srm. > > It can be done -- I did it about 1 1/2 ago. IIRC the obvious place to > download the SRM bits from had directions that either didn't work or > didn't make sense (I don't recall). I either found another directory in > the firmware collection that gave better directions; or I used the > pervious firmware collection that had other directions. > > I know this isn't much help, but I did want you to know it can be done; > and we'd *love* to have the steps documented in the email archive once > you figure them out. ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive/alphapc164lx.html "Copy the files to a FAT formatted floppy as : fwupdate.exe (The filename must remain unchanged and placed in the top-most level directory on the floppy.) Place the floppy disk in the target system Select "Update AlphaBIOS" from the AlphaBIOS menu." -ph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Mar 5 17:29:11 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597DE37B401; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 17:29:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from agena.meridian-enviro.com (thunder.meridian-enviro.com [207.109.234.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBC343FD7; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 17:29:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rand@meridian-enviro.com) Received: from delta.meridian-enviro.com (delta.meridian-enviro.com [10.10.10.43]) by agena.meridian-enviro.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h261T7c78662; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:29:07 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rand@meridian-enviro.com) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 19:29:07 -0600 Message-ID: <874r6hi8po.wl@delta.meridian-enviro.com> From: "Douglas K. Rand" To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org, freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Compaq FORTRAN User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.10.0 (Venus) SEMI/1.14.5 (Awara-Onsen) FLIM/1.14.5 (Demachiyanagi) APEL/10.4 MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386--freebsd) X-Face: $L%T~#'9fAQ])o]A][d7EH`V;"_;2K;TEPQB=v]rDf_2s% List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've been trying to get the Linux version of Compaq FORTRAN compiler to run on our FreeBSD Alpha box, with limited success. Right now I'm struggling with some shared libraries. The FORTRAN compiler need the Compaq Portable Math Library (cpml) and Compaq Extended Math Library (cxml) RPMs. The front end executables (f90_split, fort, fpp, fpr, and fsplit) are all dynamicall linked: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, Alpha (unofficial), version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped But the RPMs for the cpml and cxml libraries show up with empty .so files. I found instructions on Compaq's site that says the RPM has scripts to re-build the .so files on installation. OK, so I /think/ I've got the .so files rebuilt with: $ ld -shared -o libcpml_ev6.so -soname libcpml.so -whole-archive libcpml_ev6.a -no-whole-archive -lots $ ld -shared -o libcxml_ev6.so -soname libcxml.so -whole-archive libcxml_ev6.a -no-whole-archive -lfor -lUfor -lFutil -lcpml -lots $ file libcpml_ev6.so libcpml_ev6.so: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, Alpha (unofficial), version 1 (GNU/Linux), not stripped But I have problems using them: $ ldd /usr/lib/compaq/cfal/f90_split /usr/lib/compaq/cfal/f90_split: /usr/lib/compaq/cfal/f90_split: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libcpml.so: ELF file OS ABI invalid /usr/lib/compaq/cfal/f90_split: exit status 127 Can anybody provide some direction? It feels like I'm close to getting the FORTRAN compiler working, and if I can, I don't have to install Linux on this box. :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Mar 6 5:36:31 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B84637B401; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 05:36:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482B443FA3; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 05:36:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h26DaQG1014027 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Mar 2003 08:36:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id h26DaLR76435; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 08:36:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15975.20181.262337.837298@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 08:36:21 -0500 (EST) To: "Douglas K. Rand" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Compaq FORTRAN In-Reply-To: <874r6hi8po.wl@delta.meridian-enviro.com> References: <874r6hi8po.wl@delta.meridian-enviro.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Douglas K. Rand writes: > $ ld -shared -o libcxml_ev6.so -soname libcxml.so -whole-archive libcxml_ev6.a -no-whole-archive -lfor -lUfor -lFutil -lcpml -lots <..> > $ ldd /usr/lib/compaq/cfal/f90_split > /usr/lib/compaq/cfal/f90_split: > /usr/lib/compaq/cfal/f90_split: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libcpml.so: ELF file OS ABI invalid > /usr/lib/compaq/cfal/f90_split: exit status 127 > > Can anybody provide some direction? It feels like I'm close to getting > the FORTRAN compiler working, and if I can, I don't have to install > Linux on this box. :) > I think you're close. What you might want to try to do is to install linux_devtools (or linux_devtools7, whichever matches your linux_base), and then build those libs using the linux ld. Put the results into /compat/linux/usr/lib. The linux version should be found first when running a linux binary, and the native versions you've produced will be found when a native FreeBSD binary runs. You also might want to take a peek at the Makefile for ports/lang/compaq-cc. It does many of the same things you are trying to do. Good luck! 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