From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 00:10:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F9E16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 00:10:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net (outbound01.telus.net [199.185.220.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932F343D55 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 00:10:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sellis@d154-20-93-49.bchsia.telus.net) Received: from d154-20-93-49.bchsia.telus.net ([154.20.93.49]) by priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.netESMTP <20041219001013.IJBT27863.priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net@d154-20-93-49.bchsia.telus.net> for ; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:10:13 -0700 Received: from d154-20-93-49.bchsia.telus.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) iBJ09vxY026523 for ; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sellis@d154-20-93-49.bchsia.telus.net) Received: (from sellis@localhost)iBJ09vZB026522 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:09:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sellis) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:09:56 -0800 From: Sean Ellis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041219000956.GE21605@telus.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041218202027.GC21605@telus.net> <20041218212613.GD21605@telus.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041218212613.GD21605@telus.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: recover from var deletion; mysql apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: sellis@telus.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 00:10:14 -0000 On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 01:26:13PM -0800, Sean Ellis wrote: > On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 12:20:27PM -0800, Sean Ellis wrote: > > > > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libmm.so.13" not found > > mysql is now cooperating after running mysql_install_db and then being restarted, > . But I am left with these other errors (apachectl etc). I do not want restart apache before > clearing this up. Any suggestions? Running ldconfig cleared up the shared object errors. -- cheers, Sean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 00:40:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B69216A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 00:40:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from salvador.pacific.net.sg (salvador.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 560B043D31 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 00:40:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 21924 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2004 00:40:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell6.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.212) by salvador with SMTP; 19 Dec 2004 00:40:03 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.109] ([210.24.246.251]) by maxwell6.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP <20041219004002.JSJB17697.maxwell6.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.109]>; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:40:02 +0800 Message-ID: <41C4CE31.7090206@pacific.net.sg> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:41:21 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris References: <41C45B6B.2030801@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: <41C45B6B.2030801@makeworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD - Questions cc: FreeBSD - Ports Subject: Re: OT - Filter for Thunderbird X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 00:40:06 -0000 Hi, Chris wrote: > Sorry for posting here - but perhaps someone has done this. Is so, reply > please. > > I wish to create a filter based on the Subject, in short, I want it to > flag all duplicate emails. Has someone done this? > I think the access to the other mails is missing. The main problem will be the time it could take if people have a huge archive with many, many different folders if Firefox keeps only one index per folder. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 00:44:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA5716A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 00:44:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dave.horsfall.org (mrdavi2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.75.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E7943D2D for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 00:44:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by dave.horsfall.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id iBJ0iEN20314 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:44:14 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:44:14 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41C40910.4080001@laverenz.de> Message-ID: References: <41C40910.4080001@laverenz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: IBM Thinkpad R31 - use 4.10 or 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 00:44:18 -0000 On Sat, 18 Dec 2004, Uwe Laverenz wrote: > You should use 5.3, it will run much better on your ThinkPad, it not > only supports Cardbus but also has support for ACPI, which I think is > quite necessary on a notebook. I downloaded the 5.3 mini-install ISO and tried it out, and yes, it "finds" a lot more things. ACPI is recognised, an "unknown card" on PCI0 turned out to be the video chip (!), and a lot more (CardBus, power switch (?), lid switch (?)) etc. So, 5.3 is the way to go. Thanks! -- Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 00:50:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B7716A4DC for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 00:50:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dave.horsfall.org (mrdavi2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.75.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405BD43D46 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 00:50:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by dave.horsfall.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id iBJ0oOB20336 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:50:24 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:50:24 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041218121449.GG12385@thingy.apana.org.au> Message-ID: References: <41C40910.4080001@laverenz.de> <20041218121449.GG12385@thingy.apana.org.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: IBM Thinkpad R31 - use 4.10 or 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 00:50:28 -0000 On Sat, 18 Dec 2004, David Gerard wrote: > Does sound work properly in 5.3 on a laptop? Sound is not one of my priorities (as long as the speakers go "beep"), but a working PC-card slot (so I can lose the umbilical cord in favour of a WiFi connection back to my server) and USB-serial cables (so I can use a real modem, along with GPS receivers etc) are. -- Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 01:32:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE0F16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 01:32:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at (chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at [84.114.137.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E69143D2D for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 01:32:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: (qmail 22796 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2004 01:32:16 -0000 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net (192.168.123.10) by ns.matrix.net with SMTP; 19 Dec 2004 01:32:16 -0000 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 02:31:59 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20041218233156.GA10895@bobball.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <20041218233156.GA10895@bobball.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412190232.15663.4711@chello.at> cc: wbwither@bobball.uchicago.edu Subject: Re: Identical hard drives, different disklabel sectors/cylinders X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 01:32:19 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 19 December 2004 00:31, wbwither@bobball.uchicago.edu wrote: > Hi all, > > I've got a problem question about my hard drives. I've installed > two brand-new Western Digital 250GB drives on the same channel of > a Maxtor-branded PCI/IDE controller (Promise chipset). I've tried > different channels, different cables, and using the motherboard's > IDE controller -- same thing every time. Here's from > /var/log/messages: > > Dec 18 15:59:23 /kernel: ad4: 238475MB > [484521/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA100 Dec 18 15:59:23 /kernel: ad5: > 238475MB [484521/16/63] at ata2-slave UDMA100 > > So you can see it's identifying them the same at startup. Now: > > su-2.05b# disklabel ad4 > # /dev/ad4c: > bytes/sector: 512 > sectors/track: 63 > tracks/cylinder: 255 > sectors/cylinder: 16065 > cylinders: 30400 > sectors/unit: 488392002 [...] > su-2.05b# disklabel ad5 > # /dev/ad5c: > bytes/sector: 512 > sectors/track: 63 > tracks/cylinder: 16 > sectors/cylinder: 1008 > cylinders: 484520 > sectors/unit: 488397105 [...] > So you can see, the "sectors/cylinder", "cylinders", and "sectors/unit" > are all different, and this results in slightly different final sizes. > I've set up vinum to create a mirror using the smaller of the two sizes, > and it seems to be working fine, but I'm still worried about the > implications of this. Could this mean that one of my hard drives is > failing? (Again, they're both brand new.) I tried "disklabel -R"'ing each > drive to look like the other one (booting in single-user mode), but it > wouldn't let me. So I'm smack out of ideas. I'd appreciate any info or > suggestions. Your disks slice tables holding different values for C/H/S geometry. You can wipe out the slice tables with the dd(1) command and re-initialize them with fdisk and bsdlabel or sysinstall. There is an example written on this in 'man 8 bsdlabel'. It seems that your BIOS identifies geometry of both disks listed in your dmesg output - C/H/S 484521/16/63. This values also shown in your bsdlabel output of ad5. If you want to re-fdisk and re-bsdlabel ad4 it's necessary that the disk isn't mounted and that it isn't locked by vinum (see also 'man 4 vinum', chapters RUNNING VINUM and AUTOMATIC STARTUP). IMHO there is only one thing that can go wrong with your configuration: If you are booting your system from the mirror, I would test if both of your drives are bootable. - -- Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBxNof09WjGjvKU74RAtgWAJ98M9KSoTPsHJU3Ba+JTHrNN2QdmwCfTmwy bFFRyDuNRfAwc3f1R/6PbeI= =j26F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 01:38:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046A816A4D1 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 01:38:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr (smtp9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74BF43D3F for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 01:38:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from th.lacoste@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0906.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 20F481C001EB; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 02:38:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from ALDEBARAN (ASte-Genev-Bois-151-1-3-174.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.121.129.174]) by mwinf0906.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id D3F221C001E3; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 02:38:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001001c4e56b$77252180$0100a8c0@ALDEBARAN> From: "Thierry Lacoste" To: "Eric Kjeldergaard" References: <000801c4e537$a720c080$0100a8c0@ALDEBARAN> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 02:38:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Thierry Lacoste List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 01:38:41 -0000 > > How can I configure the loader of FreeBSD 5.2 such that > > the default is loading the kernel with ACPI support. > > with ACPI is the default, is it not? > No. When I let the loader timeout, it does not load the acpi.ko module. This is the second choice. This is the way /boot/beastie.4th operates; at least for FreeBSD 5.2 installed from the freebsdmall CDs. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 02:52:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A36D16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 02:52:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 9.hellooperator.net (cpc3-cdif2-3-0-cust202.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.32.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAFB443D31 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 02:52:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputin@hellooperator.net) Received: from rasputin by 9.hellooperator.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1CfrBf-0002gR-B9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 02:52:47 +0000 Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 02:52:47 +0000 From: Dick Davies To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20041219025241.GB22714@lb.tenfour> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: Dick Davies Subject: linux-base borked? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dick Davies List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 02:52:49 -0000 just a quick sanity check - I'm trying to install linux stuff, and getting security warnings from portaudit about linux-base-7 having xpm vulns. Is that right? -- 'Some people, when confronted with a problem, think I know, I'll use regular expressions. Now they have two problems.' -- Jamie Zawinski Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 03:09:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C50716A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 03:09:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457C443D2F for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 03:09:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20041219030901i92002b9s1e>; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 03:09:02 +0000 Message-ID: <41C4F0CC.30700@nbritton.org> Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:09:00 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041203) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joshua Tinnin References: <003b01c4e489$6497d0e0$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> <41C36F45.6060305@nbritton.org> <200412171746.07980.krinklyfig@spymac.com> In-Reply-To: <200412171746.07980.krinklyfig@spymac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: 'Kevin Smith' cc: 'Joshua Lokken' cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Tom Connolly Subject: Re: (cvsup newbie questions) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 03:09:03 -0000 Joshua Tinnin wrote: > > >Well, if you build a port with make options once, then it will remember >your make options. Otherwise, you can enter make arguments >in /etc/pkgtools.conf, although this only helps if you know what >arguments the ports you're installing might need. > > What do you mean it "remembers" what make options I used... if I do a portupgrade it without setting MAKE_ARGS in pkgtools.conf it will remember my make options from the last time I built it? Also how to I make it "unremember" make options I don't want anymore? Also, semi related, whats this "Generating INDEX-5 - please wait.." thing and why does it take an hour for it to generate? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 03:23:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9A616A4CE; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 03:23:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769F443D1F; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 03:23:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A2860ED; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:23:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 97052-09; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:23:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A56360E4; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:23:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41C4F442.5070200@makeworld.com> Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:23:46 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041218) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erich Dollansky References: <41C45B6B.2030801@makeworld.com> <41C4CE31.7090206@pacific.net.sg> In-Reply-To: <41C4CE31.7090206@pacific.net.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.0 (20041102) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: FreeBSD - Questions cc: FreeBSD - Ports Subject: Re: OT - Filter for Thunderbird X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 03:23:48 -0000 Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > Chris wrote: > >> Sorry for posting here - but perhaps someone has done this. Is so, reply >> please. >> >> I wish to create a filter based on the Subject, in short, I want it to >> flag all duplicate emails. Has someone done this? >> > I think the access to the other mails is missing. > > The main problem will be the time it could take if people have a huge > archive with many, many different folders if Firefox keeps only one > index per folder. > > Erich No - I think you totally missed the point. I have duplicate mails I would love to create a filter to remove. Opposed to going through 1700 plus mails and removing them by hand. If I failed to articulate that - then it's my fault. Best regards, Chris It takes longer to lose 'x' number of pounds than to gain 'x' number of pounds. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 03:48:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1065916A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 03:48:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9834C43D55 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 03:48:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20041219034844i92002atd0e>; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 03:48:44 +0000 Message-ID: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:48:44 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041203) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: migrating from thunderbird to mutt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 03:48:46 -0000 Need some advice here... I would like to change my mail client from thunderbird to a text based client so I can email from anywhere using just ssh (don't like "web based" clients, too slow). I would like to try mutt being that it's a very popular text client but I have many questions about it. so can someone at least point me in the right direction(s) (faqs, docs, how-to's, anything)... How do I get my old email (from thunderbird, mbox?) into mutt? Can mutt handle um like 5+ email address and have them all separated and be able to send from diffrent email accounts? If I remember right mutt is just a mail reader, so how do I get mail to and sent from mutt? How does it handle hyperlinks, if I select something will it open up in firefox or whatever? Message filtering, for example I have all the different freebsd mailing lists automatically put into different folders, and junk mail sorting? Speell check? How do I set the thing up, config file help? I have more questions, I just can't think of them at the moment. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 05:08:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF74C16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 05:08:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from addr14.addr.com (addr14.addr.com [209.249.147.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC1A43D2D for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 05:08:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markski@addr14.addr.com) Received: from addr14.addr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])iBJ58tZX090101 for ; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:08:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from markski@localhost) by addr14.addr.com (8.12.8/8.12.7/Submit) id iBJ58tjp090099 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:08:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:08:55 -0800 From: Mark To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041218210855.A86705@logik.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i X-ADDRSpamFilter: Passed, probability (0%) X-ADDRSignature: 38404B31 Subject: system insists it's up to date (xpm woes) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 05:08:57 -0000 Hi, I'm having a bit of trouble with ports and packages: # cd /usr/ports/graphics/xpdf/ # make install clean distclean ===> xpdf-3.00_4 depends on executable: freetype-config - found ===> xpdf-3.00_4 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> xpdf-3.00_4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf259 - found ===> xpdf-3.00_4 depends on shared library: t1.5 - found ===> xpdf-3.00_4 depends on shared library: freetype.9 - found ===> xpdf-3.00_4 depends on shared library: Xm.3 - not found ===> Verifying install for Xm.3 in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/open-motif ===> open-motif-2.2.3 has known vulnerabilities: => xpm -- image decoding vulnerabilities. Reference: => Please update your ports tree and try again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/open-motif. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xpdf. --------------------------- Right, ok, that's fair enough. So: # cd /usr/ports/x11/libXpm/ # make install clean distclean ===> libXpm-3.5.1_1 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/libdata/pkgconfig/xproto.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/X11R6/libdata/pkgconfig/xproto.pc in /usr/ports/x11/xproto ===> Extracting for xproto-6.6.2 => Checksum OK for xproto-6.6.2.tar.bz2. ===> Patching for xproto-6.6.2 ===> xproto-6.6.2 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> Configuring for xproto-6.6.2 checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gawk... no checking for mawk... no checking for nawk... nawk checking whether gmake sets $(MAKE)... yes checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating Makefile config.status: creating xproto.pc ===> Installing for xproto-6.6.2 ===> xproto-6.6.2 conflicts with installed package(s): xorg-libraries-6.7.0_3 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xproto. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/libXpm. --------------------------------- Ah. So basically libXpm is part of xorg? I didn't install Xorg via the ports system but via sysinstall when I first installed FreeBSD... # pkg_version http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/INDEX-5 xorg-clients = xorg-fonts-100dpi = xorg-fonts-75dpi = xorg-fonts-cyrillic = xorg-fonts-encodings = xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps = xorg-fonts-truetype = xorg-fonts-type1 = xorg-fontserver = xorg-libraries = xorg-manpages = xorg-server = Now please correct me if I'm in the wrong ballpark entirely, but my system seems to think it's both current and not at the same time. The last update of xorg apparently fixed the issue, and apparently that's the version I'm using: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/ Could someone please dispel my confusion or at least slap me about a bit until I get it? cheers, mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 05:26:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE48516A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 05:26:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from addr14.addr.com (addr14.addr.com [209.249.147.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C058E43D2F for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 05:26:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markski@addr14.addr.com) Received: from addr14.addr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])iBJ5QPZX093536 for ; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:26:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from markski@localhost) by addr14.addr.com (8.12.8/8.12.7/Submit) id iBJ5QP3c093534 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:26:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:26:24 -0800 From: Mark To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041218212624.A93079@logik.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i X-ADDRSpamFilter: Passed, probability (0%) X-ADDRSignature: D805CB Subject: Re: system insists it's up to date (xpm woes) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 05:26:27 -0000 Just to clarify, the ports tree was cvsup'd about fifteen minutes ago and the same goes for portupgrade/etc. mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 05:39:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38FA16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 05:39:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay02.mail-hub.kbs.net.au (relay02.mail-hub.kbs.net.au [202.136.32.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4A243D41 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 05:39:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peterzelezny@dodo.com.au) Received: from [220.240.114.182] (helo=pzbox.localdomain) by relay02.mail-hub.kbs.net.au with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cftn7-0005Mk-Eu for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:39:37 +1100 Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:39:52 +1100 From: Peter Zelezny To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20041219163952.4e387060.peterzelezny@dodo.com.au> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.99 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-vine-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: MD driver on physical ram? (64MB cachable problem) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 05:39:44 -0000 Hi All, Would it be possible to use the 'md' driver on a physical address? I'm particularly interested if someone has some hacks or custom patches that would allow this. The problem I have on some old hardware is that the chipset can only cache the first 64MB in L2, but the machine has 128MB total. I'd like to limit the memory with MAXMEM=64M, and then mount the remaining memory as a very fast swap drive. Thanks in advance for any ideas. Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 06:54:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F6316A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 06:54:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E7D43D39 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 06:54:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adnichols@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so149293wra for ; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 22:54:55 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=rjFukMIV5lXSNO2ENCZUXWPhDFcm6C1eyp/vPIJ5IRKvMmElB6Hpm4kKucfptKdXEmG8P8ItqV8HVC0v5GppZGVeHFNG1mGY11iwuqbyzAM4+npIqghvBj8MFaEunjk5MtZwj/xwRKoWWqh4TyZKpjmtqIWyx7Ssx6pMx2uia1Y= Received: by 10.54.26.68 with SMTP id 68mr152038wrz; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 22:54:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.35.39 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 22:54:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 22:54:55 -0800 From: Aaron Nichols To: Hexren In-Reply-To: <19950521916.20041218034056@hexren.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1356832694.20041217153250@hexren.net> <19950521916.20041218034056@hexren.net> cc: FreeBSD Mailing list Subject: Re: Re[2]: combining 2 ADSL Lines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Aaron Nichols List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 06:54:57 -0000 On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 03:40:56 +0100, Hexren wrote: > Could this not be circumvented by using a server in the > Internet as second Gateway. If I route all traffic (both lines) from my LAN Gateway > through a VPN to a second Gateway NAT it there and only then go to the Internet. > The Net should just see the second Gateways IP. Or am I talking crap ? > *a bit confused here* > > Hexren I try not to use absolutes - and I think this idea is probably the most likely way to do what you want. However, there are a number of things that make me question whether this will work as you think it should. Depending on the type of VPN you use, you are going to be dependent upon the routing method used by the VPN to balance the traffic. In the case of IPSec - I'm not sure that having two SA's with the same remote network will be balanced. I suspect one or the other SA will be used but perhaps that's not true. To get an increase in aggregate bandwidth (not just the ability to use both lines) you need to have per-packet load balancing across both VPN's. I have no idea if the underlying code supports this type of load-balancing over multiple VPN's. Assuming this works brings me to the 2nd problem Since the link from this "public" gateway to each DSL line is via a number of other devices, most likely, you wont have the traditional ability to monitor the queue for each link to determine which path a packet takes. Normally the less congested link would be used when the other path becomes busy, keeping the two connections relatively balanced and providing you with higher aggregate bandwidth. How do you determine which path is congested if you are 3 hops away via a VPN? You can assume that it's safe to simply send every other packet over each link, but then what if one link starts to experience packet loss or slows down? Then you will probably severely impact your overall bandwidth since there is no way for this upstream gateway to choose to send more traffic over the working path. An extreme example of a problematic scenario from above (albeit highly unlikely) is a mix of large packets and small packets. You could have a majority of large packets sent over one link and small packets over the other - leaving one link relatively underutilized while the other becomes saturated. The gateway has no way to know that one line is underutilized and thus should send more data over that line to provide more bandwidth. Also, if one link goes down, how quickly will this upstream gateway know that the VPN is not available? Again, depending on the type of VPN, this can take from a few seconds if a keepalive is used, to a few minutes or many minutes if not. In the case of IPSec on FreeBSD, which I don't think implements Dead Peer Detection, it's likely to take quite a while for the gateway to realize that a particular link is no longer available. During this time traffic will still be sent over both links resulting in consistent 50% packet loss. Again, this is all theoretical - I've never done it. Some or all of this may be able to be worked around with other tools. I'd be very interested in whether you are able to get this working - I don't have the facilities to try it out. This would be much easier if the two DSL links could cooperate so that you would at least resolve the issues above. If you want to just use per-session load balancing (each connection goes via one or the other DSL line and sticks with that one) there are a number of options which will certainly link. Those options have been suggested by others on the list and there are many threads regarding doing this. This doesn't buy you higher aggregate throughput as far as I know. Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 07:18:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70E716A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 07:18:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx0.metrocast.net (coltrane-mx.metrocast.net [65.175.128.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 35E2943D58 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 07:18:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tenpin784@metrocast.net) Received: (qmail 25261 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2004 07:18:46 -0000 Received: from xwing.jbarbieri.net (HELO ?10.10.100.109?) (65.175.136.163) by coltrane-mx.metrocast.net with SMTP; 19 Dec 2004 07:18:46 -0000 Message-ID: <41C52B53.9010102@metrocast.net> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 02:18:43 -0500 From: John Barbieri User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Silicon Image 3114 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 07:18:48 -0000 Hey there. I want to run a RAID 0 array on a Silicon Image 3114 SATA RAID adapter, but cant find drivers. I found some links on how to "patch" the kernel, but they dont tell you how to do that, or what needs to be done to do it. Does anyone have an idea, or can point me in the direction, on how to set this up?? is it relativly easy?? im running FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE, on a Tyan Tiger Motherboard. Thanks in advanced. John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 07:52:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A68D16A4CF for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 07:52:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from santiago.pacific.net.sg (santiago.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 359FD43D39 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 07:52:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 32740 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2004 07:52:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell2.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.192) by santiago with SMTP; 19 Dec 2004 07:52:32 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.109] ([210.24.246.251]) by maxwell2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP <20041219075231.HZNN1207.maxwell2.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.109]>; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:52:31 +0800 Message-ID: <41C5338D.3090508@pacific.net.sg> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:53:49 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris References: <41C45B6B.2030801@makeworld.com> <41C4CE31.7090206@pacific.net.sg> <41C4F442.5070200@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: <41C4F442.5070200@makeworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD - Questions cc: FreeBSD - Ports Subject: Re: OT - Filter for Thunderbird X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 07:52:35 -0000 Hi, Chris wrote: > Erich Dollansky wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Chris wrote: >> >>> Sorry for posting here - but perhaps someone has done this. Is so, reply >>> please. >>> >>> I wish to create a filter based on the Subject, in short, I want it to >>> flag all duplicate emails. Has someone done this? >>> >> I think the access to the other mails is missing. >> >> The main problem will be the time it could take if people have a huge >> archive with many, many different folders if Firefox keeps only one >> index per folder. >> >> Erich > > > No - I think you totally missed the point. I have duplicate mails I > would love to create a filter to remove. Opposed to going through 1700 > plus mails and removing them by hand. > I do not think so but I see now that my answer was pretty short. The filter looks always only onto an individual mail. It does not allow - at least not as far as I know - to link two mails with each other to create a filter. WIth other words, it is not possible to say "DELETE if SUBJECT == other.SUBJECT". > If I failed to articulate that - then it's my fault. 1:1 Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 07:55:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79E416A4CE; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 07:55:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (fia148-72.dsl.hccnet.nl [62.251.72.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9672543D53; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 07:55:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id iBJ7suI29864; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:55:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 07:54:56 +0000 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Chris In-Reply-To: <41C4F442.5070200@makeworld.com> Message-ID: References: <41C45B6B.2030801@makeworld.com> <41C4CE31.7090206@pacific.net.sg> <41C4F442.5070200@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: Erich Dollansky cc: FreeBSD - Ports cc: FreeBSD - Questions Subject: Re: OT - Filter for Thunderbird X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 07:55:23 -0000 On Dec 18, Chris launched this into the bitstream: > Erich Dollansky wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Chris wrote: >> >>> Sorry for posting here - but perhaps someone has done this. Is so, reply >>> please. >>> >>> I wish to create a filter based on the Subject, in short, I want it to >>> flag all duplicate emails. Has someone done this? >>> >> I think the access to the other mails is missing. >> >> The main problem will be the time it could take if people have a huge >> archive with many, many different folders if Firefox keeps only one >> index per folder. >> >> Erich > > No - I think you totally missed the point. I have duplicate mails I would > love to create a filter to remove. Opposed to going through 1700 plus mails > and removing them by hand. > > If I failed to articulate that - then it's my fault. I hope I'm understanding...you mean apply a filter to *existing* mail?? I'm not even sure it's possible in T/Bird. For the future though................. procmail is completely capable of doing what you require. If you're using T/Bird (I'm guessing) you're probably also pop'ing mail directly from your provider or a.n.other account? For procmail to function efficiently you would need to install postfix or sendmail [shudder] and define procmail as your LDA. You would then get completely granular control over your incoming mai stream. my $0.02. Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven NetBSD on a Cobalt Qube2 - http://www.NetBSD.org - No Hype Required Sun Dec 19 08:54:00 CET 2004 8:54AM up 2 days, 14:44, 5 users, load averages: 1.69, 1.41, 1.30 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 08:06:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF1916A4CE; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:06:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B476543D2F; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:06:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA3056ED; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 00:10:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06739-10; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 00:10:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4324E54EB; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 00:10:03 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20041219081003.4324E54EB@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 00:10:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-11-28 - 2004-12-18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:06:04 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 6-Dec : Secure Your Wireless with IPsec WEP just isn't enough for me http://freebsddiary.org/ipsec-wireless.php?2 -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 08:29:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C3016A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:29:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from santiago.pacific.net.sg (santiago.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B468C43D2D for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:29:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 6039 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2004 08:29:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell6.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.212) by santiago with SMTP; 19 Dec 2004 08:29:54 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.109] ([210.24.246.251]) by maxwell6.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP <20041219082953.KFBW17697.maxwell6.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.109]>; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:29:53 +0800 Message-ID: <41C53C50.2020804@pacific.net.sg> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:31:12 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Colin J. Raven" References: <41C45B6B.2030801@makeworld.com> <41C4CE31.7090206@pacific.net.sg> <41C4F442.5070200@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD - Questions cc: FreeBSD - Ports Subject: Re: OT - Filter for Thunderbird X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:29:57 -0000 Hi, Colin J. Raven wrote: > On Dec 18, Chris launched this into the bitstream: > >> Erich Dollansky wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >> >> If I failed to articulate that - then it's my fault. > > > I hope I'm understanding...you mean apply a filter to *existing* mail?? > I'm not even sure it's possible in T/Bird. > Mozilla & Co. are receiving all e-mail into an "inbox". The filters are then applied onto the "inbox". This limits Mozilla & Co. in certain ways. > For the future though................. > Your idea makes sense in many ways. Take only this mailing list as an example. It is not a problem to do this in general, just Mozilla & Co. do not provide it. I tried recently to setup a filter which also needed access to other mails. I have to stick to Mozilla & Co. as I move my mails between FreeBSD and Windows. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 08:57:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059F316A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:57:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1CA443D58 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:57:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) iBJ8v4v40029; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 00:57:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , "Hexren" Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 00:57:04 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <41C42058.3020303@mail.ru> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: combining 2 ADSL Lines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:57:25 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Andrew P. > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 4:20 AM > To: Hexren > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: combining 2 ADSL Lines > > > Sure you can combine two lines for bandwidth boost and redundancy. > Ports/net/mpd is probably the best choice considering you have FreeBSD Andrew, am I missing something or are you just being bullheaded?? He said both DSL lines are from different providers - and that Mppp isn't an option. If your suggestion of using mppp was a cute way to tell him this was impossible, please explain yourself. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 08:59:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B937D16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:59:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8FC43D2D for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:59:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from asolomon15@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so68252rne for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 00:59:29 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CZ4evpynbsYS3oIwGpkP93YB4H6HVDSTk79DDdXArfD9Cb3Z/KMyJynZvwkoQtG0BpceV2lJ5ETCNjDjWabZwVm8qjNVaTxtyMX5+K+0+3xkvV9n0au1BJHbaIGIhaSDQGUsx/UVy1/ycARV9HjvJdcR7Mhy/ptDpIUIhR7otPU= Received: by 10.38.163.27 with SMTP id l27mr153078rne; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 00:59:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.97.11 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 00:59:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 03:59:29 -0500 From: Antoine Solomon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: problem running openGL and glut based programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Antoine Solomon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:59:30 -0000 Hello I have a problem running glut and gl based programs. when compiling simple examples using GL and glut they appear to compile just fine. But when executing them, I just get a blank window that doesn't do anything. I am running glut libglut-6.0.1 I believe that it has something to do with ld and ldconfig. If anyone can help thanks -- Antoine W. Solomon Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 09:07:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9CFC16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:07:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D19D43D48 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:07:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) iBJ97Yv40059; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 01:07:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Hexren" , Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 01:07:34 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1356832694.20041217153250@hexren.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: RE: combining 2 ADSL Lines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:07:40 -0000 Hexren, People have asked about your scenario dozens of times on various DSL usergroups for at least the last 4 years. We see this all the time on the Zebra and Quagga mailing lists. In a word, it's not possible. I've told numerous people it's not possible on these mailing lists and been sworn at, had people tell me I didn't know what I was talking about, etc. etc. None of these people who were insistent that there was a way to get it to work ever ended up doing so then coming back and saying 'nanner nanner nanner, I was right and you were wrong' While your introduction of a second server 'in the internet' is an interesting variation of this question, it's still impossible. IF you get multiple DSL lines from the SAME isp, and assuming that isp is setup for it, you could theoretically run multilink PPP. Most people in your situation end up just setting NAT's on their DSL lines and use the same internal IP range for each NAT device, this creates multiple default gateways on their internal networks, then they put one of the default gateways on half of the machines and the other default gateway on the other half. Quite obviously for a single FTP or whatever transfer, this isn't going to double the speed. But if you have a bunch of systems on your LAN it works OK for splitting the load. Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Hexren > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 6:33 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: combining 2 ADSL Lines > > > I have the following problem, I have 2 ADSl Lines and would like to > combine those 2 into 1 big. I have full control of both the gateway > from my LAN and another Server in the internet which I coud use as a > second gateway. > > What I am thinking of is something like virtualizing so that in the > end I have VirtualInterface1 which is DSL1 and DSL2. > > > As you might see I am a bit lost for words to even describe in English > what I need. So if my words where not clear please do ask and if you have > any suggestions on how that problem could be solved or even only some > intelligent search terms for goggle. Please answer ;) > > > Thanks > Hexren > > > p.s. Multilink PPP is unfortunately not an option as the lines are > rented from different providers (I think that is prohibiting multilink > isn't it ?) :( > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 09:17:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C5B016A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:17:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BBB43D58 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:17:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) iBJ9Emv40084; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 01:14:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jonathon McKitrick" , "Matthias Buelow" Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 01:14:48 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20041217235243.GA89288@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 cc: Giorgos Keramidas cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: BSD equivalents of autoconf, automake, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:17:47 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jonathon > McKitrick > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 3:53 PM > To: Matthias Buelow > Cc: Giorgos Keramidas; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: BSD equivalents of autoconf, automake, etc. > > Besides, it will need a professional looking/acting installation > script when > it is done, and it will have to work on both platforms. > WHY? Today, the Linux and FreeBSD worlds have gone the way of Windows - the average user no longer knows how to compile software. Today, they either spend time fetching rpm's or they use the FreeBSD ports directories which does all that for them. The 'configure' script was useful at one time when there were lots of different UNIXes but today it's an anachronism, and just wastes development time for debugging configure. I have seen many configure scripts blow up with bugs or build makefiles that create uncompilable software. You don't need an install script. Whomever is building the RPM or whomever is creating the FreeBSD port has their own ideas of where they want things to be installed and has no interest in interference from you. Keep it Simple Stupid. A Makefile that has options settible by editing with a text editor, and a nice readme file that tells what all the settible options are, is infinitely superior than all the configure crap. That is all that the RPM and ports creators want from you. And the end users don't even want to compile your stuff in the first place, let alone see it's install script. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 10:44:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8335016A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:44:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postfix4-1.free.fr (postfix4-1.free.fr [213.228.0.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D4243D46 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:44:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from c.ollier.ml@free.fr) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jaures31-1-82-228-82-192.fbx.proxad.net [82.228.82.192]) by postfix4-1.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D21621A5D6 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:44:39 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C55BBF.9060808@free.fr> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:45:19 +0100 From: christophe ollier User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: fr-fr, fr, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Too many entries in UPDATING ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:44:40 -0000 Hello, I just undertook the process of upgrading from 5.2.1-RELEASE to RELENG_5_3. First step was to read the doc, next to synchronize sources with cvsup. My problem comes at the "read /usr/src/UPDATING" step. I begun to track the entries pertaining to my system. I found so far two (20041010 on rc scripts, and 20040925 about bind). The task seems overwhelming if I have to track all of this : there are in this file many entries, but most of them have a date largely _before_ my initial installation of 5.2.1. Should I follow every entry, or only those after the date of my last system upgrade (in my case, initial installation) ? And, if the later is the case, how can I know the precise release date of 5.2.1-RELEASE ? Is there a calendar somewhere on the web, or, preferably, a log file or command on my system ? Or maybe an utility helping in this task ? Thanks for your help ! -- Christophe Ollier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 10:47:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A221316A4CE; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:47:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5B243D48; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:47:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from craig.freebsd@online.de) Received: from [212.227.126.205] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1Cfyae-0004cK-00; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:47:04 +0100 Received: from [217.231.72.99] (helo=[192.168.0.103]) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1Cfyad-0008PT-00; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:47:03 +0100 Message-ID: <41C55C22.9020101@online.de> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:46:58 +0100 From: craig Organization: small-pla.net User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, diavul@bsd.krakow.pl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:13d873e74d14c1363715808660186da0 Subject: Marvell 88E8001 on sk0 and RELENG_5_3 - big problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: craig.freebsd@online.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:47:05 -0000 > Here's the fix: > http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sys/dev/pci/if_sk.c.diff?r1=1.51&r2=1.52 > > -- > Michal Belczyk do to severe incompatibility problems with my previous motherboard's IDE and fbsd5.3, i recently purchased a new gigabyte 865PE, complete with onboard marvell nic. :( from dmesg (after applying identifying patch) ---- skc0: port 0xac00-0xacff mem 0xfb000000-0xfb003fff irq 20 at device 9.0 on pci2 skc0: Yukon Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Adapter skc0: PN: Yukon 88E8001 skc0: EC: Rev. 1.3 skc0: MN: Marvell skc0: SN: AbCdEfG5ca025 sk0: on skc0 sk0: Ethernet address: 00:0f:ea:5c:a0:25 miibus0: on sk0 ---- unfortuantely, this motherboard too has severe problems. although the nic is recognised at install/boot, it simply *refuses* to come up. dhclient just draws a blank. i have tried to ifconfig sk0 up and down a few times, but makes no difference. i tried to apply Michal's above patch off an absolute fresh install. ie. the *very* first thing i did sadly, only 1 of the 2 chunks succeeded. from if_sk.c.rej *************** *** 2425,2431 **** /* serial mode register */ DPRINTFN(6, ("sk_init_yukon: 9\n")); SK_YU_WRITE_2(sc_if, YUKON_SMR, YU_SMR_DATA_BLIND(0x1c) | - YU_SMR_MFL_VLAN | YU_SMR_IPG_DATA(0x1e)); DPRINTFN(6, ("sk_init_yukon: 10\n")); /* Setup Yukon's address */--- 2425,2432 ---- /* serial mode register */ DPRINTFN(6, ("sk_init_yukon: 9\n")); SK_YU_WRITE_2(sc_if, YUKON_SMR, YU_SMR_DATA_BLIND(0x1c) | + YU_SMR_MFL_VLAN | YU_SMR_MFL_JUMBO | + YU_SMR_IPG_DATA(0x1e)); DPRINTFN(6, ("sk_init_yukon: 10\n")); /* Setup Yukon's address */ --- note, i cannot cvsup to latest RLEENG_5, because i have no network! :( any ideas on what to do from here? although the patch did not work automatically, i could manually insert the code, but i am well aware of the problems that may cause! if anyone (in europe) is able to help me solve this issue, i will gladly send them my old ASRock PE ProHT motherboard! its in perfect condition and works fine with freebsd4.10 - tragically, 5.3 refuses to work with the onboard sis IDE controller... much thanks, --- craig.freebsd at online.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 10:57:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF7E716A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:57:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F6443D45 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:57:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kjelderg@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so71260rne for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 02:57:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=tj53L60BHx6nt9ZQDmr35DeOpShbxUdMYT8UyL07+MFIYH8xAmmJcsqJSu2v7zz5QcV8V0URbeNqr+hjoVrS/HeyoqnfBQMa4A5Sn16kygjyBDjpfEpJ1G5re6TNkfn0EsNXLTuZDTpVX3OFrtEfL5/qWABDC0mbtJD7K9d0o5E= Received: by 10.38.208.29 with SMTP id f29mr260953rng; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 02:57:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.101.3 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 02:57:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 04:57:23 -0600 From: Eric Kjeldergaard To: Thierry Lacoste In-Reply-To: <001001c4e56b$77252180$0100a8c0@ALDEBARAN> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <000801c4e537$a720c080$0100a8c0@ALDEBARAN> <001001c4e56b$77252180$0100a8c0@ALDEBARAN> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eric Kjeldergaard List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:57:24 -0000 > > > How can I configure the loader of FreeBSD 5.2 such that > > > the default is loading the kernel with ACPI support. > > > > with ACPI is the default, is it not? > > > No. When I let the loader timeout, it does not load > the acpi.ko module. This is the second choice. > > This is the way /boot/beastie.4th operates; > at least for FreeBSD 5.2 installed from > the freebsdmall CDs. Huh, that's strange, I could have sworn it was on mine...but nevermind that, on to a solution. Ideally, all the acpi option does is load the acpi module, so if you use /boot/loader.conf (man loader.conf) you could use the load keyword and it should load it right up on boot. -- If I write a signature, my emails will appear more personalised. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 11:32:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3076516A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:32:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.fr (smtp3.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E056C43D45 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:32:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from th.lacoste@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0308.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 8481420000B2; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:32:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from ALDEBARAN (ASte-Genev-Bois-151-1-9-127.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.121.135.127]) by mwinf0308.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 442C2200008F; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:32:08 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000501c4e5be$60762940$0100a8c0@ALDEBARAN> From: "Thierry Lacoste" To: "Eric Kjeldergaard" References: <000801c4e537$a720c080$0100a8c0@ALDEBARAN> <001001c4e56b$77252180$0100a8c0@ALDEBARAN> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:32:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Thierry Lacoste List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:32:10 -0000 > > > > How can I configure the loader of FreeBSD 5.2 such that > > > > the default is loading the kernel with ACPI support. > > > > > > with ACPI is the default, is it not? > > > > > No. When I let the loader timeout, it does not load > > the acpi.ko module. This is the second choice. > > > > This is the way /boot/beastie.4th operates; > > at least for FreeBSD 5.2 installed from > > the freebsdmall CDs. > > Huh, that's strange, I could have sworn it was on mine...but nevermind > that, on to a solution. Ideally, all the acpi option does is load the > acpi module, so if you use /boot/loader.conf (man loader.conf) you > could use the load keyword and it should load it right up on boot. > It works. Thanks. Now the problem with your solution is that the acpi module is loaded unconditionally. I'd like to make acpi the default but keep the possibility of loading FreeBSD without acpi in case there's a problem with it. In other words, my present beastie menu begins with 1. Boot FreeBSD [default] 2. Boot FreeBSD with ACPI enabled and I'd like to just swap these options. Regards, Thierry. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 11:38:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E949D16A4CF for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:38:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F9B43D45 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:38:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kjelderg@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so72391rne for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 03:38:50 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=qFVZXwHlRbYgfLF4va6h7WHVW9xDuuJFgWIYWFa9nD8arw5wcYZdFeW4bU42jQ4rbmY6U6i3UxZxfmPZE1UbRDhqAuyDx+FyuO32cXDnvUUC2QfwiesQ4kgHoi+2SaIv4qtU+uIY1+3vuT4dO+5Wse/BizkKO3Zkuac57hQVm9E= Received: by 10.38.15.39 with SMTP id 39mr41641rno; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 03:38:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.101.3 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 03:38:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 05:38:49 -0600 From: Eric Kjeldergaard To: Thierry Lacoste In-Reply-To: <000501c4e5be$60762940$0100a8c0@ALDEBARAN> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <000801c4e537$a720c080$0100a8c0@ALDEBARAN> <001001c4e56b$77252180$0100a8c0@ALDEBARAN> <000501c4e5be$60762940$0100a8c0@ALDEBARAN> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eric Kjeldergaard List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:38:51 -0000 > > > > > How can I configure the loader of FreeBSD 5.2 such that > > > > > the default is loading the kernel with ACPI support. > > > > > > > > with ACPI is the default, is it not? > > > > > > > No. When I let the loader timeout, it does not load > > > the acpi.ko module. This is the second choice. > > > > > > This is the way /boot/beastie.4th operates; > > > at least for FreeBSD 5.2 installed from > > > the freebsdmall CDs. > > > > Huh, that's strange, I could have sworn it was on mine...but nevermind > > that, on to a solution. Ideally, all the acpi option does is load the > > acpi module, so if you use /boot/loader.conf (man loader.conf) you > > could use the load keyword and it should load it right up on boot. > > > It works. Thanks. > Now the problem with your solution is that the acpi module is loaded > unconditionally. I'd like to make acpi the default but keep the possibility > of loading FreeBSD without acpi in case there's a problem with it. > In other words, my present beastie menu begins with > 1. Boot FreeBSD [default] > 2. Boot FreeBSD with ACPI enabled > and I'd like to just swap these options. That is a problem that I had thought of, and the easy solution that came to my mind is boot single-user and then comment out the line in loader.conf when you /really/ don't need acpi. This of course assumes that you don't want to switch your acpi/non-acpi status every other hour or something. While that solution is a little inconvenient, it is not lacking in ability. If there is a better way, though, I hope someone speaks up about it. I know that the loader for me (5.3, 5.1) has the default with acpi and the #2 disabled. I really do think that a better solution. I'm just not sure how to do it. You /could/ try grabbing the 5.3 versions of the loader files, I'm pretty sure that there is nothing in them that changed between 5.2 and 5.3. -- If I write a signature, my emails will appear more personalised. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 13:16:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9A216A4CF for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:16:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CCED643D5C for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:16:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.171.1.225 with login) by smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Dec 2004 13:16:17 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 05:16:14 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <41C45B6B.2030801@makeworld.com> <41C4CE31.7090206@pacific.net.sg> <41C4F442.5070200@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: <41C4F442.5070200@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412190516.16092.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: Erich Dollansky cc: FreeBSD - Ports Subject: Re: OT - Filter for Thunderbird X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:16:18 -0000 On Saturday 18 December 2004 07:23 pm, Chris wrote: > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Chris wrote: > >> Sorry for posting here - but perhaps someone has done this. Is so, > >> reply please. > >> > >> I wish to create a filter based on the Subject, in short, I want > >> it to flag all duplicate emails. Has someone done this? > > > > I think the access to the other mails is missing. > > > > The main problem will be the time it could take if people have a > > huge archive with many, many different folders if Firefox keeps > > only one index per folder. > > > > Erich > > No - I think you totally missed the point. I have duplicate mails I > would love to create a filter to remove. Opposed to going through > 1700 plus mails and removing them by hand. > > If I failed to articulate that - then it's my fault. I know this might not help your situation, but KMail has a command to remove duplicates from folders. I've used it occassionally, but it's definitely come in handy at those times. I am not sure about T-Bird. In any case, it can be done, but maybe not as easily in other clients. I'm sure it would be possible to write a small script which could do this to the file itself, if you wanted to keep your existing mail software (although, not sure what format T-Bird uses, but IIRC mbox is available). - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 13:22:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F5A16A4CF for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:22:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0853643D3F for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:22:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.171.1.225 with login) by smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Dec 2004 13:22:24 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 05:22:21 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <41C45B6B.2030801@makeworld.com> <41C53C50.2020804@pacific.net.sg> In-Reply-To: <41C53C50.2020804@pacific.net.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412190522.22381.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: "Colin J. Raven" cc: Erich Dollansky cc: FreeBSD - Ports Subject: Re: OT - Filter for Thunderbird X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:22:25 -0000 On Sunday 19 December 2004 12:31 am, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > Colin J. Raven wrote: > > On Dec 18, Chris launched this into the bitstream: > >> Erich Dollansky wrote: > >>> Hi, > >> > >> If I failed to articulate that - then it's my fault. > > > > I hope I'm understanding...you mean apply a filter to *existing* > > mail?? I'm not even sure it's possible in T/Bird. > > Mozilla & Co. are receiving all e-mail into an "inbox". The filters > are then applied onto the "inbox". This limits Mozilla & Co. in > certain ways. > > > For the future though................. > > Your idea makes sense in many ways. Take only this mailing list as an > example. > > It is not a problem to do this in general, just Mozilla & Co. do not > provide it. I tried recently to setup a filter which also needed > access to other mails. > > I have to stick to Mozilla & Co. as I move my mails between FreeBSD > and Windows. If you really wanted you could setup something like fetchmail and procmail to fetch and filter into folders (I prefer getmail instead of fetchmail, YMMV), or trash dupes or whatever, then use whatever client you like to read it and hand it off to your SMTP. Of course, this does require that you have a server running all the time, but you could even expand on it and use something like IMAP if you wanted, so that you can easily access your mail plus all your folders from pretty much anywhere. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 14:24:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5256C16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:24:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cedant2.abac.com (cedant2.abac.com [66.175.0.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C33643D54 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:24:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@vesterman.com) Received: from [192.168.0.11] (ool-44c40513.dyn.optonline.net [68.196.5.19]) (authenticated bits=0) by cedant2.abac.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBJEOARt064851 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 06:24:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bob@vesterman.com) Message-ID: <41C591FF.6020209@vesterman.com> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:36:47 -0500 From: Robert William Vesterman User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41C45B5C.9030307@vesterman.com> <19861fba0412181014a473951@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <19861fba0412181014a473951@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.44 Subject: Re: X kills su X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:24:14 -0000 J65nko BSD wrote: >On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 11:31:24 -0500, Robert William Vesterman > wrote: > > >>After I exit from X windows, I no longer have the ability to su (to >>root, at least). It doesn't even ask for my password - it just >>immediately says "bad su from myacct to root". >> >>If I then "exit", and immediately log back in as myacct, I am able to su >>to root no problem. >> >>I am running 5.3-STABLE, and the latest X (or very, very near it). It >>happens with at least two distinct WMs (Window Maker and Fluxbox). >> >>Any idea? Or any further information I can provide? >> >> >Did you change your root shell recently? > >Somebody on the list reported about the systems inability to run ppp >from boot-up. His problem was caused by using bash as the root shell. >Restoring "sh" as the root shell fixed it :) > I did change it recently (to ksh93), but changing it back to /bin/sh did not help. Thanks, though. Any other ideas? Thanks, Bob Vesterman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 14:26:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C96016A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:26:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.178.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D38AF43D2F for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:26:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@uni-mainz.de) Received: from [134.93.183.16] (edda.Geo.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.183.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33023000363 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:26:03 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C58F92.3060108@uni-mainz.de> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:26:26 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Institut =?ISO-8859-15?Q?f=FCr_Geophysik?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; de-AT; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041113 X-Accept-Language: de-de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at uni-mainz.de Subject: FreeBSD 5.3 and BIND9 problems! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:26:05 -0000 Dear Sirs. Compiling PHP 5.0.3 from PHP.NET, PHP 5.0.2 from ./ports collection and PHP5-SNAP from php.net fail in compiling in FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE (cvsupdated and rebuilt today!) with an error that seems to be BIND9 specific: ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1d49): In function `.L166': : undefined reference to `res_ninit' ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1db5): In function `.L166': : undefined reference to `res_nmkquery' ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1de7): In function `.L166': : undefined reference to `res_nsend' ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1f6a): In function `.L166': : undefined reference to `res_nclose' I searched the web and mailing lists for this problem and I found out, that PHP won't compile when FreeBSD 5.x lacks in BIND9. As I know, FreeBSD 5.3 definitely has BIND9, but why is PHP not compiling the expected way? /usr/include/resolv.h does not have any definitions for the above mentioned routines and it seems to be a 'weird' failure, maybe something I missed when installing 'world'? PHP5.0.2 built without problems in FreeBSD 5.2.1 and FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p1, but not in FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE. Some suggestions? Thanks in advance, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 14:37:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B6E16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:37:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7836543D4C for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:37:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tethys.ocean@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so78604rne for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 06:37:54 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=HxciqKBrbt0vtnYAmH46zyGxXGQMbv2z7/bvGOxLOSRMQNw3eAEIpzp/yU9I4KeEi/Z1oC1mJ7LJU7v+G4CWdE8m0azqQ1kVSVqfY2do7RlplEgYVlqueBci8yZBex2lhInG9oz1LTLiUKFE6HqX6Br9ne/S7s+rowo4ahXRk7w= Received: by 10.38.15.39 with SMTP id 39mr88078rno; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 06:37:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.66.15 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 06:37:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <235b800004121906375959fdc8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:37:54 +0200 From: tethys ocean To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041218202712.GB2847@pleiades.aeternal.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <235b8000041218113816abe2d8@mail.gmail.com> <20041218195821.GA2847@pleiades.aeternal.net> <235b800004121812104663dcd0@mail.gmail.com> <20041218202712.GB2847@pleiades.aeternal.net> Subject: bind+postfix+courier+sals+amavis+spamassian+pop3+mysql+apache+smtp-auth X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: tethys ocean List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:37:56 -0000 Hmmzz yep, I want to do this but my packet version conflicted.. FreeBSD 5.3 stable Mysql-server-5.0.1 Bind9-9.3.0 (for only dns cahe) Postfix-2.2.20041008,2 (also for GUI postfix-admin) Courier-Imap-3.0.8.1 Cyrus-sasl-2.1.20 Apache-2.0.52_3 Amavisd (clamav + spamassassin) Sqwebmail (for webmail and also very important that is user must be change his/her passwd) I saw openwebmail its very nice but passwd change options hasnt been in packet so I give up using this. why all packet is conflict each other I couldnt understantd A lots of virtual host and I must find POP3 competible with courier-imap and also very very important point is SMTP-AUTH in POP3 for virtual users and quota for virtual user and they can be change their passwd from webmail. and also I had look a lots of document such as http://www.high5.net/howto/ http//yocum.org/faqs/postfix-tls-sasl.html http://www.delouw.ch/linux/Postfix-Cyrus-Web-cyradm-HOWTO/Postfix-Cyrus-Web-cyradm-HOWTO.pdf shortly I have a lots of virual user that must reach webmail also POP3 and prevent their mailbox from spam and virus and also they must change own passwd and pop3 deamond must be smtp-aut depens on their username and passwd. AND also my stafff may manage webtools (with GUI) they can create new virtual user and may give quota and aliases virtusertable etc...and important point I dont want to use sendmail. :(( On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:27:12 +0100, martin hudec wrote: > Hello, > > On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 10:10:22PM +0200 or thereabouts, tethys ocean wrote: > > > > I set that but I need pop3 because we have got a lots of virtual host > > > > I must look for pop3 competible with courier-imap isnt it?! > > > > courier-imap is able to serve its maildirs (no, not mbox) using IMAP and > POP3, both with secure variants. You can use mysql as authentication > backend with sasl. I am using this solution with postfix as smtp > server (also with user and virtual data in mysql), amavisd (clamav + > spamassassin) as spam/virus filter. I am just bit sad that openwebmail > is not working with maildirs, so I use horde/imp application instead > to provide webmail services. > > > Cheers, > > Martin > > -- > martin hudec > > * 421 907 303 393 > * corwin@aeternal.net > * http://www.aeternal.net > > "Nothing travels faster than the speed of light with the possible > exception of bad news, which obeys its own special laws." > > Douglas Adams, "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 14:46:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D1816A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:46:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from enterprise.thenetnow.com (enterprise.thenetnow.com [65.39.193.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27CA943D54 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:46:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from GRANT (hpeel.ody.ca [216.240.12.2])iBJEjuG39039 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:45:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Message-ID: <030101c4e5d9$7380eeb0$6401a8c0@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:45:55 -0500 Organization: The Net Now MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: ipfw and Webmin. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Grant Peel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:46:00 -0000 Hi all, If anyone out there uses Webmin Firewall module to admin a FreeBSD module, I could use a hint on something. In the FreeBSD handbook, it says one must put the "IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT" option in the kernel, OR make sure allow rules are present to avoid being locked out. IF anyone is using the webmin module, does the firewall.pl script webmin uses in the rc.local file avoid all this when the machine boots, or is it necessary to add a script to add a rule, or is it still a must to add the "IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT" to the kernel? -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 15:34:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60F116A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:34:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3F443D5D for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:34:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bees.msu@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so282605rna for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 07:34:30 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Wl+hOs6NtCJ57oVLufKjlj18yNKrjSOVUGX1AX/KQgvnAGwKVEJWRvV7IlITZ9qLbVm0R9xGwMpAw/dkh/HYZ5IQBKXou/i1p7d/m/CB+/poqw2hd4nj+zPyll6hbwtSjkQT7dQJ1KOp5hJIkeGIsRlFHH7xe6E3fyC6eKf3E0o= Received: by 10.38.90.9 with SMTP id n9mr534007rnb; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 07:34:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.12.56 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 07:34:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:34:30 -0500 From: Zachary Huang To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: upgrading from 4.2 to 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Zachary Huang List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:34:31 -0000 So my system seems to be messed up (see previous messages). I tried cvsup to the old system 4.2 and it did not fix the problem. Today I tried "upgrading" using my old 4.2 CD (sysinstall again) but still get many sendmail error messages (but seems to be sending and receiving mails file). 1). what is the best way to fix this? I plan to buy the 4.10 Release CDs, but then what? I boot the system with CD and do upgrade, but /usr/src will not be changed. is it safe to remove /usr/src first? 2). I do not quite understand if one need to boot into the new system (4.10) or not, after cvsup to a new source (say 4.10), before doing the make buildworld. The book does not say so , so I assume not. 3). the FreeBSD book says I need to make sure all the ports are up to date before installing JAVA but when I got the ports from 4.10 on a 4.8 system (a differen machine), I had trouble installing Linux Runtime Lib. So I am confused when the book says up to date, does it mean to the same release? (i.e. I should have got ports from 4.8 since my system is 4.8). Thanks, Zach From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 15:40:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C3416A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:40:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out006.verizon.net (out006pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AF343D1F for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:40:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from georgiev@vt.edu) Received: from [151.199.113.34] by out006.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041219154046.PCJI7873.out006.verizon.net@[151.199.113.34]> for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:40:46 -0600 Message-ID: <41C59D02.2000708@vt.edu> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:23:46 -0500 From: ivan georgiev User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041217) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out006.verizon.net from [151.199.113.34] at Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:40:46 -0600 Subject: high temperature after the last buildkernel/world X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:40:48 -0000 Hi all, I synced my sources against RELENG_5 yesterday and did buildworld/kernel. After rebooting with the new system the fans of the computer are constantly on. The temperature, when idling, is about 56 (previously it was about 48-50). I rebooted the computer in Linux and, as expected, after 1-2 minutes the fans went off and the temp is about 49. Someone else experiencing the same problem? I have HP pavilion ze5300. Regards, Ivan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 15:53:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A47A16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:53:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxfep01.bredband.com (mxfep01.bredband.com [195.54.107.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E94743D2D for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:53:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scode@scode-whitestar.mine.nu) Received: from scode-whitestar.mine.nu ([83.226.138.136] [83.226.138.136]) by mxfep01.bredband.com with ESMTP <20041219155356.MDQI18879.mxfep01.bredband.com@scode-whitestar.mine.nu>; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:53:56 +0100 Received: by scode-whitestar.mine.nu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D457717BA9E; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:00:22 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:00:22 +0100 From: Peter Schuller To: Nikolas Britton Message-ID: <20041219160022.GA41058@scode-whitestar.mine.nu> References: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: migrating from thunderbird to mutt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:53:58 -0000 > How do I get my old email (from thunderbird, mbox?) into mutt? mutt supports mbox/maildir/etc, so if youre using that you should be able to just point mutt to your mail. But then I dunno - perhaps thunderbird uses its own format? I got sick and tired of this issue years ago and now I read all my mail via IMAP, so that I know I am never *ever* dependent on one specific client. > Can mutt handle um like 5+ email address and have them all separated and > be able to send from diffrent email accounts? I dont know if mutt in and of itself supports that; when I need multiple "personalities" i tend to use different startup scripts for mutt that change the settings in question. Though you can surely create keyboard macros that change identities by changing relevant parameters. > If I remember right mutt is just a mail reader, so how do I get mail to > and sent from mutt? Correct. If youre using IMAP, you're done. If you're using pop, I think I remember reading mutt had some sort of support for POP. But in general, 'fetchmail' is probably what you want for downloading mail from remote mailboxes and having it delivered locally using whatever mail delivery mechanism exists on your system. mutt sends mail using the standard sendmail method; so having any properly configured MUA on the client should do (Postfix, qmail, etc...). > How does it handle hyperlinks, if I select something will it open up in > firefox or whatever? That sounds more like a terminal issue. > Message filtering, for example I have all the different freebsd mailing > lists automatically put into different folders, and junk mail sorting? Use "maildrop" or "procmail" for that (procmail is probably more widely used because its the traditional tool; maildrop I prefer personally because of its nicer syntax). maildrop/procmail is plugged into the normal delivery mechanisms, independent of mutt. use mutt to read the already filtered email. > Speell check? Dunno; but i doubt it if you are talking about on-the-fly spell checking as you write. > How do I set the thing up, config file help? www.mutt.org, and/or read through the example muttrc that comes with the freebsd port. -- / Peter Schuller, InfiDyne Technologies HB PGP userID: 0xE9758B7D or 'Peter Schuller ' Key retrieval: Send an E-Mail to getpgpkey@scode.org E-Mail: peter.schuller@infidyne.com Web: http://www.scode.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 16:00:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D539216A4D0 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:00:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 147A143D49 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:00:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAFBFD008 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:00:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C5A5A1.5000401@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:00:33 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Getting back my shell is slow, Eterm/bash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:00:46 -0000 Hi, I am running 6.0 and have disabled the witness and other variables mentioned in UPDATING that affects performance. UPDATING also mentions that there are other tunables affecting "world", but not which. Now the problem is that every time I exit some console program, less, man, vi or a remote shell and return to the shell (bash 2.05) in Eterm, the console hangs for some random time before giving me back my CLI. I have no such problems on 4.8 with bash2 or 5.3 with bash3, when I login with ssh from my local Eterm console. I have had the problem since upgrading to 6.0 from 5.2.1, but I can't exclude that this may be a problem with Eterm (0.9.2_1). Does anyone experience such problems? how to solve? Thanks, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 16:06:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B75D16A524 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:06:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E71743D2D for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:06:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bees.msu@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so21263rne for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:06:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=cEFSeTRc63ev+u4R8u2BJZNvRQEiUQk/WmjuZxa6XkWJU8h90TWkhQTVAkOgE/xyNsRXVRx5BJd5FRFuUusWzi+kYZTENvD1y27rsNsso2lpsk36U/ucgFf+6mdc49jmXxLPBLwDBtCQ7QNtnr+4SrV/pJW61bfInAmiyJLt6eM= Received: by 10.38.81.10 with SMTP id e10mr84789rnb; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:06:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.12.56 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:06:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:06:16 -0500 From: Zachary Huang To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041218201750.3FA8216A4D3@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041218201750.3FA8216A4D3@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 83, Issue 24 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Zachary Huang List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:06:18 -0000 Joshua, Thanks for your answers. > It sounds like your src tree needs to be cleaned up (# rm -rf /usr/src/*) is this safe to do? do I clean up it before 'upgrading' to my 4.2 CD? perhaps safer to rename it first? > and that you should read the Handbook chapter on using cvsup, write > yourself a src-supfile, or use one of the examples, and then follow the > well-documented procedure for upgrading your system from source. I read the book, did a cvsup to 4.2 (hoping to overwite the 'new' stuff with the original stuff), tried make buildworld, same error. Today I rebooted with a 4.2 CD, did 'upgrade', but it refuses to upgrade /usr/src (as usual), now I can ssh to the host, but ftp does not work, I got: Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. ftp> ls 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||49153|) I now know how to get cvsup to work, but still I do not understand the difference between cvsup vs. buying a CD. Is buying a CD easier to upgrade to a new release? happy holidays, Zach From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 17:46:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D845816A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:46:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-smtplb.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C02B43D41 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:46:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from satellite (dhcp065-031-041-029.woh.rr.com [65.31.41.29]) iBJHk8Jl028570 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:46:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000d01c4e5f2$7add5b30$0400a8c0@satellite> From: "dave" To: Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:45:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: courier imap keys and self-signed ca signing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dave List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:46:13 -0000 Hello, I've got a 5.3 box that i'm using as a self-signing ca. I want to get keys going for all the various protocols i use, http, which i've done, pop and imap, and smtp. It's these last three i'm having the headache. I'm using postfix as my MTA and courier imap for pop/imap, i know that the latter has a program to generate keys but not csr's, i'm not sure how to get keys from courier and/or postfix to the ca for signing. I'm probably missing somehing very basic, and would appreciate any help. Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 17:59:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C6816A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:59:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6814643D41 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:59:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B64BD63B; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:59:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.0.7]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1B918B6A; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:59:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 83146-04; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:59:05 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.0.7 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.0.7; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.0.7]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8200018B3C; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:59:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C5C167.8040604@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:59:03 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dave References: <000d01c4e5f2$7add5b30$0400a8c0@satellite> In-Reply-To: <000d01c4e5f2$7add5b30$0400a8c0@satellite> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Comment-1: GNU's Not Unix! X-Comment-2: Support FSF! X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: courier imap keys and self-signed ca signing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:59:10 -0000 Why don't you read the OpenSSL manual that comes with your SSL-enabled Apache? Anyway here's a basic command line example: generate the pop certificate request: ------------------------------------- openssl req -config path/to/ur/openssl.cnf \ -newkey rsa:2048 -keyout pop-server-key.pem \ -out pop-server-req.pem issue the certificate using a existing CA certificate: ------------------------------------------------------ openssl ca -config path/to/ur/openssl.cnf \ -name name-of-ur-ca \ -in pop-server-req.pem -out pop-server-cert.pem Read your OpenSSL manual as well. dave schrieb: > Hello, > I've got a 5.3 box that i'm using as a self-signing ca. I want to get > keys going for all the various protocols i use, http, which i've done, pop > and imap, and smtp. It's these last three i'm having the headache. I'm using > postfix as my MTA and courier imap for pop/imap, i know that the latter has > a program to generate keys but not csr's, i'm not sure how to get keys from > courier and/or postfix to the ca for signing. I'm probably missing somehing > very basic, and would appreciate any help. > Thanks. > Dave. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > !DSPAM:41c5be83339755710121396! > > -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt | phone: +49 -7032-992909 Grabenstrasse 11 | +49 -700-DHAISCHT | fax: +49 -7032-992910 D-71083 Herrenberg | fax2mail: +49 -7032-7999738 GERMANY | cell: +49 -172-7668936 SIP: sip:haischt@daniel-s-haischt.biz:5060 email: me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name web: http://www.daniel.stefan.haischt.name/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 18:03:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A7516A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:03:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out014.verizon.net (out014pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29F343D3F for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:03:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.252.53]) by out014.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041219180301.RCVH28388.out014.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:03:01 -0600 Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D89C511908; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:02:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:02:47 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041219180247.GA33770@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000d01c4e5f2$7add5b30$0400a8c0@satellite> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <000d01c4e5f2$7add5b30$0400a8c0@satellite> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out014.verizon.net from [68.163.252.53] at Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:03:00 -0600 Subject: Re: courier imap keys and self-signed ca signing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:03:02 -0000 On 12/19/04 12:45 PM, dave sat at the `puter and typed: > Hello, > I've got a 5.3 box that i'm using as a self-signing ca. I want to get > keys going for all the various protocols i use, http, which i've done, pop > and imap, and smtp. It's these last three i'm having the headache. I'm using > postfix as my MTA and courier imap for pop/imap, i know that the latter has > a program to generate keys but not csr's, i'm not sure how to get keys from > courier and/or postfix to the ca for signing. I'm probably missing somehing > very basic, and would appreciate any help. > Thanks. > Dave. Why would you want to use multiple methods? Just create a single self signed CA from OpenSSL and use it to sign a single cert for all your servers. You could also just use a self signed cert for all of them. Check out this info: http://www.openssl.org/docs/apps/x509v3_config.html#Subject_Alternative_Name_ That will tell you about using a single cert for multiple domains if that is what you need. Hope this helps. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ԿԬ After a number of decimal places, nobody gives a damn. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 18:11:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A3016A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:11:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017EC43D39 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:11:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32E2BD617 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:11:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.0.7]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECBCF18B6F for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:11:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 93068-05 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:11:46 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.0.7 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.0.7; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.0.7]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFB818B5B for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:11:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C5C460.70800@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:11:44 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <000d01c4e5f2$7add5b30$0400a8c0@satellite> <20041219180247.GA33770@keyslapper.org> In-Reply-To: <20041219180247.GA33770@keyslapper.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Comment-1: GNU's Not Unix! X-Comment-2: Support FSF! X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de Subject: Re: courier imap keys and self-signed ca signing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:11:49 -0000 That's true if each of his servers will have the same common name (CN). But if one server resides for example on imap.foobar.com and the other at smtp.foobar.com, he has to use different certificate. Mozilla/Netscape browsers are quite picky if it comes to wrong CN attributes. BTW Dave - If you did install Apache together with mod_ssl the mod_ssl manual could be found at: -> http://localhost/manual/ssl/ Louis LeBlanc schrieb: > On 12/19/04 12:45 PM, dave sat at the `puter and typed: > >>Hello, >> I've got a 5.3 box that i'm using as a self-signing ca. I want to get >>keys going for all the various protocols i use, http, which i've done, pop >>and imap, and smtp. It's these last three i'm having the headache. I'm using >>postfix as my MTA and courier imap for pop/imap, i know that the latter has >>a program to generate keys but not csr's, i'm not sure how to get keys from >>courier and/or postfix to the ca for signing. I'm probably missing somehing >>very basic, and would appreciate any help. >>Thanks. >>Dave. > > > > Why would you want to use multiple methods? Just create a single self > signed CA from OpenSSL and use it to sign a single cert for all your > servers. You could also just use a self signed cert for all of them. > > Check out this info: > http://www.openssl.org/docs/apps/x509v3_config.html#Subject_Alternative_Name_ > > That will tell you about using a single cert for multiple domains if > that is what you need. > > Hope this helps. > > Lou -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt | phone: +49 -7032-992909 Grabenstrasse 11 | +49 -700-DHAISCHT | fax: +49 -7032-992910 D-71083 Herrenberg | fax2mail: +49 -7032-7999738 GERMANY | cell: +49 -172-7668936 SIP: sip:haischt@daniel-s-haischt.biz:5060 email: me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name web: http://www.daniel.stefan.haischt.name/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 18:50:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571CE16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:50:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out004.verizon.net (out004pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8DEA43D46 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:50:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.252.53]) by out004.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041219185025.MVUX8290.out004.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:50:25 -0600 Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DFD0B11908; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:50:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:50:11 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20041219185011.GA36223@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <000d01c4e5f2$7add5b30$0400a8c0@satellite> <20041219180247.GA33770@keyslapper.org> <41C5C460.70800@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <41C5C460.70800@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out004.verizon.net from [68.163.252.53] at Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:50:24 -0600 Subject: Re: courier imap keys and self-signed ca signing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:50:26 -0000 Actually, it was recently brought up on the OpenSSL users list, and mentioned that *newer* clients would be fine with a cert for *.foobar.com in place of imap.foobar.com or smtp.foobar.com. I wrote SSL functionality into a client app 4 years ago (OpenSSL 0.9.?) that handled wildcard certs without a problem. I never got back around to checking for multiple domain certs, but it should work. The link I provided describes how to tweak the OpenSSL config file to allow alternative names as well, to include, for instance, *.snafu.com on the same cert. Again, *newer* clients should be fine with this, but if you want to support old school browsers, stick with single domain certs. Lou On 12/19/04 07:11 PM, Daniel S. Haischt sat at the `puter and typed: > That's true if each of his servers will have the > same common name (CN). But if one server resides > for example on imap.foobar.com and the other > at smtp.foobar.com, he has to use different > certificate. > > Mozilla/Netscape browsers are quite picky if it > comes to wrong CN attributes. > > BTW Dave - If you did install Apache together with > mod_ssl the mod_ssl manual could be found at: > > -> http://localhost/manual/ssl/ > > Louis LeBlanc schrieb: > > On 12/19/04 12:45 PM, dave sat at the `puter and typed: > > > >>Hello, > >> I've got a 5.3 box that i'm using as a self-signing ca. I want to get > >>keys going for all the various protocols i use, http, which i've done, pop > >>and imap, and smtp. It's these last three i'm having the headache. I'm using > >>postfix as my MTA and courier imap for pop/imap, i know that the latter has > >>a program to generate keys but not csr's, i'm not sure how to get keys from > >>courier and/or postfix to the ca for signing. I'm probably missing somehing > >>very basic, and would appreciate any help. > >>Thanks. > >>Dave. > > > > > > > > Why would you want to use multiple methods? Just create a single self > > signed CA from OpenSSL and use it to sign a single cert for all your > > servers. You could also just use a self signed cert for all of them. > > > > Check out this info: > > http://www.openssl.org/docs/apps/x509v3_config.html#Subject_Alternative_Name_ > > > > That will tell you about using a single cert for multiple domains if > > that is what you need. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Lou > > -- > Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards > > Daniel S. Haischt | phone: +49 -7032-992909 > Grabenstrasse 11 | +49 -700-DHAISCHT > | fax: +49 -7032-992910 > D-71083 Herrenberg | fax2mail: +49 -7032-7999738 > GERMANY | cell: +49 -172-7668936 > > SIP: sip:haischt@daniel-s-haischt.biz:5060 > email: me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name > web: http://www.daniel.stefan.haischt.name/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ԿԬ A Pope has a Water Cannon. It is a Water Cannon. He fires Holy-Water from it. It is a Holy-Water Cannon. He Blesses it. It is a Holy Holy-Water Cannon. He Blesses the Hell out of it. It is a Wholly Holy Holy-Water Cannon. He has it pierced. It is a Holey Wholly Holy Holy-Water Cannon. He makes it official. It is a Canon Holey Wholly Holy Holy-Water Cannon. Batman and Robin arrive. He shoots them. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 19:00:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC7416A4CF for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:00:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from helium.webpack.hosteurope.de (helium.webpack.hosteurope.de [217.115.142.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7365343D39 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:00:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@hexren.net) Received: by helium.webpack.hosteurope.de running Exim 4.34 using asmtp helo=hexren.steenbuck.net) id 1Cg6IS-000761-0n; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:00:48 +0100 Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:00:47 +0100 From: Hexren X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Business X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <33115721739.20041219200047@hexren.net> To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: combining 2 ADSL Lines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hexren List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:00:52 -0000 TM> Hexren, TM> People have asked about your scenario dozens of times on various TM> DSL usergroups for at least the last 4 years. We see this all TM> the time on the Zebra and Quagga mailing lists. TM> In a word, it's not possible. TM> I've told numerous people it's not possible on these mailing TM> lists and been sworn at, had people tell me I didn't know what TM> I was talking about, etc. etc. None of these people who TM> were insistent that there was a way to get it to work ever ended TM> up doing so then coming back and saying 'nanner nanner nanner, I TM> was right and you were wrong' TM> While your introduction of a second server 'in the internet' TM> is an interesting variation of this question, it's still impossible. --------------------------------------------- Just out of curiousity, I think I'll try the ng_one2many approach. If it works I will come back and say 'nanner nanner nanner', promise. If not I am propably too ashamed to come back and tell that I did not believe somebody knowing more than me (which in fact would then have been proven) ;) Hexren From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 19:27:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F333316A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:27:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDD243D49 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:27:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from bsdbox.farid-hajji.net (bsdbox [192.168.254.3]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBA24B79F; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:27:18 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:27:29 +0100 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: Erik Norgaard Message-ID: <20041219192729.GA1668@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> References: <41C5A5A1.5000401@locolomo.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C5A5A1.5000401@locolomo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Getting back my shell is slow, Eterm/bash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:27:31 -0000 On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 05:00:33PM +0100, Erik Norgaard wrote: > Now the problem is that every time I exit some console program, less, > man, vi or a remote shell and return to the shell (bash 2.05) in Eterm, > the console hangs for some random time before giving me back my CLI. I've noticed this too, but not only with the console. Just wild guessing: the scheduler needs a long time to wake up processes that have been swapped out. I don't know if this bug has been (completely) fixed yet, 'cause I have no machine that I could upgrade right now. > I have no such problems on 4.8 with bash2 or 5.3 with bash3, when I > login with ssh from my local Eterm console. I have had the problem since > upgrading to 6.0 from 5.2.1, but I can't exclude that this may be a > problem with Eterm (0.9.2_1). Just check if the sleepy shell has been swapped out before. This bug has been often reported in disguise (X takes long time to exit, ssh takes long time to connect, whatever). It's often not the exiting process' fault, but the swapped out parent's or daemon's long wakeup latency. But again, I'm just wildguessing. This bug may well have been fixed since last time I've cvsup-ed. Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 19:40:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2DDC16A4D0 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:40:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ninja.terrabionic.com (ninja.terrabionic.com [213.187.181.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5457543D46 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:40:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johann@terrabionic.com) Received: by ninja.terrabionic.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F3C552E; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:38:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:38:43 +0100 From: jsha To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041219193843.GA34296@ninja.terrabionic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD ninja.terrabionic.com 5.3-STABLE i386 X-Location: Bergen, Norway, Europe Subject: FreeBSD doesn't even boot! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:40:12 -0000 --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hello all. I'm trying to install FreeBSD 5.3 (using the mini-installation ISO) on my new HP/Compaq stationary. It has to Serial-ATA harddrives, and I want one for FreeBSD and one for Windows. I installed FreeBSD along with BootMgr, but it does not want to boot. It just makes silly beeps. I am given two choices, F1 for FreeBSD and F4 for Drive1. More recently, I attempted to install Windows XP on this Drive1. It removed my MBR, but in turn it successfully booted Windows. So I reinstalled FreeBSD, but now whenever I select FreeBSD it just reboots my computer. When I select Drive1, it loads some kind of MAC addressing scheme by HP and then freezes. Personally, I'm helpless. Virtually, I'm humble. Thanks. -- j. --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBxdjCeF7Rq67IV2wRAhH/AJ9GAdJdLg97NsIpafSwjSrXiDm8JwCgssDx i3PO8z1fRIANZh6c71iiSB8= =pZFv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 20:52:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B5B16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:52:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC9B143D5A for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:52:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D15FD008; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:52:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C5EA17.5040300@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:52:39 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cpghost@cordula.ws References: <41C5A5A1.5000401@locolomo.org> <20041219192729.GA1668@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <20041219192729.GA1668@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Getting back my shell is slow, Eterm/bash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:52:44 -0000 cpghost@cordula.ws wrote: > I've noticed this too, but not only with the console. Just wild > guessing: the scheduler needs a long time to wake up processes > that have been swapped out. I don't know if this bug has been (completely) > fixed yet, 'cause I have no machine that I could upgrade right now. > > Just check if the sleepy shell has been swapped out before. This bug has > been often reported in disguise (X takes long time to exit, ssh takes > long time to connect, whatever). It's often not the exiting process' > fault, but the swapped out parent's or daemon's long wakeup latency. > > But again, I'm just wildguessing. This bug may well have been fixed > since last time I've cvsup-ed. Thanks, at least I have a good explanation that doesn't suggest I am just overlooking the obvious :-) I have only noticed it under X, and only with the shell, and only when terminating some program started from the console. But, I'll be patient and try another update :-) Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 20:58:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2A416A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:58:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94F443D2D for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:58:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBJKwOrF070859 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:58:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41C5EB56.1000008@mac.com> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:57:58 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Paul A. Hoadley" References: <20041216010258.GC93695@grover.logicsquad.net> <20041218224134.GA50538@grover.logicsquad.net> In-Reply-To: <20041218224134.GA50538@grover.logicsquad.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail: host name lookup failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:58:32 -0000 Paul A. Hoadley wrote: [ ... ] >>Dec 16 11:19:08 bert sendmail[1043]: iBF403Wb004664: >>to=,,, >>ctladdr= (1001/1001), >>delay=20:49:05, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=4770661, >>relay=tsb.coremedicalsolutions.com., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Name >>server: tsb.coremedicalsolutions.com.: host name lookup failure > > I remain stumped here. The sending host, the LAN's DNS server and the > LAN's mail hub all have forward and reverse DNS entries. It's not at > all clear to me what sendmail is complaining about. That hostname gets an NXDOMAIN failure from here: 53-sec% dig tsb.coremedicalsolutions.com. ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> tsb.coremedicalsolutions.com ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 36321 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUERY SECTION: ;; tsb.coremedicalsolutions.com, type = A, class = IN ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: coremedicalsolutions.com. 3H IN SOA ns.chariot.net.au. hostmaster.chariot.net.au. ( 2002060603 ; serial 3H ; refresh 1H ; retry 1W ; expiry 1D ) ; minimum -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 21:46:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA7C716A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:46:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (wcborstel.demon.nl [82.161.134.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6455A43D4C for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:46:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jorn@wcborstel.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522464398; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:46:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.wcborstel.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 63357-01; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:46:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A944087; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:46:52 +0100 (CET) From: "Jorn Argelo" To: jsha , questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:46:52 +0100 Message-Id: <20041219214045.M8970@wcborstel.nl> In-Reply-To: <20041219193843.GA34296@ninja.terrabionic.com> References: <20041219193843.GA34296@ninja.terrabionic.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 82.161.134.53 (jorn) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.wcborstel.nl Subject: Re: FreeBSD doesn't even boot! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:46:26 -0000 On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:38:43 +0100, jsha wrote > Hello all. > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 5.3 (using the mini-installation ISO) > on my new HP/Compaq stationary. It has to Serial-ATA harddrives, and > I want one for FreeBSD and one for Windows. > > I installed FreeBSD along with BootMgr, but it does not want to boot. > It just makes silly beeps. I am given two choices, F1 for FreeBSD and > F4 for Drive1. More recently, I attempted to install Windows XP on > this Drive1. It removed my MBR, but in turn it successfully booted > Windows. So I reinstalled FreeBSD, but now whenever I select FreeBSD > it just reboots my computer. Might be a conflict of Windows expecting its own MBR, but suddenly sees an unknown one. MBRs are nasty things. Scroll down for more info. > When I select Drive1, it loads some kind > of MAC addressing scheme by HP and then freezes. It isn't going to help us too much when you say "some kind" :) You have to be more specific. On other words, tell us exactly what you see. You might want to consider installing a standard MBR during the installation (so not the FreeBSD bootloader). Then only FreeBSD will boot if you have selected the drive as the primary drive in the bios (assuming you have two disks). If you need your machine badly but can't boot Windows yet? Just select the other drive in the bios and you're ready to go :) If everything is running, install GRUB or LILO, whatever you prefer. Works better in some cases, and looks nicer as well :) Cheers, Jorn > > Personally, I'm helpless. > Virtually, I'm humble. > > Thanks. > -- > j. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 21:47:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F73516A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:47:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A398843D5C for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:47:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94DBA60F4; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:47:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05142-10; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:47:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2444360E2; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:47:04 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41C5F6DE.3030509@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:47:10 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041218) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jsha References: <20041219193843.GA34296@ninja.terrabionic.com> In-Reply-To: <20041219193843.GA34296@ninja.terrabionic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.0 (20041102) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD doesn't even boot! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:47:08 -0000 jsha wrote: > Hello all. > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 5.3 (using the mini-installation ISO) > on my new HP/Compaq stationary. It has to Serial-ATA harddrives, and I > want one for FreeBSD and one for Windows. > > I installed FreeBSD along with BootMgr, but it does not want to boot. > It just makes silly beeps. I am given two choices, F1 for FreeBSD and > F4 for Drive1. More recently, I attempted to install Windows XP on > this Drive1. It removed my MBR, but in turn it successfully booted > Windows. So I reinstalled FreeBSD, but now whenever I select FreeBSD > it just reboots my computer. When I select Drive1, it loads some kind > of MAC addressing scheme by HP and then freezes. > > Personally, I'm helpless. > Virtually, I'm humble. > > Thanks. > -- > j. > Read the online handbook on multi booting. ALWAYS read the handbook before doing anything on your own that you have either never done before, or are unsure of. Next - search this lists archives on multi booting. In any event, you will find your answer - if you only look. -- Best regards, Chris The chances of anybody doing anything are inversely proportional to the number of other people who are in a position to do it instead. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 21:49:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC6B16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:49:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 9.hellooperator.net (cpc3-cdif2-3-0-cust202.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.32.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FE143D1D for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:49:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputin@hellooperator.net) Received: from rasputin by 9.hellooperator.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Cg8w8-00021o-1z for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:49:56 +0000 Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:49:56 +0000 From: Dick Davies To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20041219214955.GA7774@lb.tenfour> References: <000d01c4e5f2$7add5b30$0400a8c0@satellite> <20041219180247.GA33770@keyslapper.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041219180247.GA33770@keyslapper.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: Dick Davies Subject: Re: courier imap keys and self-signed ca signing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dick Davies List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:49:57 -0000 * Louis LeBlanc [1204 18:04]: > On 12/19/04 12:45 PM, dave sat at the `puter and typed: > > Hello, > > I've got a 5.3 box that i'm using as a self-signing ca. I want to get > > keys going for all the various protocols i use, http, which i've done, pop > > and imap, and smtp. It's these last three i'm having the headache. I'm using > > postfix as my MTA and courier imap for pop/imap, i know that the latter has > > a program to generate keys but not csr's, i'm not sure how to get keys from > > courier and/or postfix to the ca for signing. I'm probably missing somehing > > very basic, and would appreciate any help. Dave, why not just generate the csrs on the CA, then scp them to the individual servers? If you have a CA, just do: # generate a request # (do a find for CA.pl, it should be under /etc/ somewhere.) ./CA.pl -newreq-nodes # then sign it ./CA.pl -sign That produces newcert.pem Then: newreq.pem = the server key newcert.pem = the server certificate rename the two files to something memorable mv newreq.pem imap.domain.key mv newcert.pem imap.domain.cert and scp them to whereever they should live. > Why would you want to use multiple methods? Just create a single self > signed CA from OpenSSL and use it to sign a single cert for all your > servers. You could also just use a self signed cert for all of them. Unless I read that wrong, you're suggesting having all servers (imap/https/database/etc) on a host share a single server cert. Don't you think thats a bit iffy security-wise? Then I have to have a server key readable by all the servers (many of which run as different users), and if one is taken they are all impersonatable. > Check out this info: > http://www.openssl.org/docs/apps/x509v3_config.html#Subject_Alternative_Name_ > > That will tell you about using a single cert for multiple domains if > that is what you need. Useful link. I've used that for situations where I have two or more hosts in a load balance group, where I set the subjectAltName to ldap.domain, and the CNs are ldap1...n.domain. Then clients that aren't ldap-uri (which allows multiple servers to be listed) aware can just use a round-robin DNS entry of ldap.domain and still see that the server is what they expected. I'm not sure http browsers (for example) are aware of that field, however. -- 'You may need to metaphorically make a deal with the devil. By 'devil' I mean robot devil and by 'metaphorically' I mean get your coat.' -- Bender Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 21:52:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E6F16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:52:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84B643D39 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:52:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBJLqCqV004154 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:52:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41C5F7F1.2000801@mac.com> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:51:45 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com Subject: ethernet MAC to vendor database...? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:52:18 -0000 Hi, all-- Is there a flatfile version of the ethernet MAC to vendor database lying around somewhere in FreeBSD? Ah! I found /usr/local/share/nmap/nmap-mac-prefixes, that'll do. [ I'm tempted to recommend that nmap become part of the base system, and move that file next to /usr/share/misc/pci_vendors... :-) ] -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 21:58:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617C216A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:58:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D66443D1D for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:58:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 89CDE51424; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:58:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:58:25 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: christophe ollier Message-ID: <20041219215825.GA99436@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41C55BBF.9060808@free.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C55BBF.9060808@free.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Too many entries in UPDATING ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:58:26 -0000 --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 11:45:19AM +0100, christophe ollier wrote: > Should I follow every entry, or only those after the date of my last=20 > system upgrade (in my case, initial installation) ? The latter > And, if the later is=20 > the case, how can I know the precise release date of 5.2.1-RELEASE ? Is= =20 > there a calendar somewhere on the web, or, preferably, a log file or=20 > command on my system ? Or maybe an utility helping in this task ? The information is in many places: on the FreeBSD website, under /usr/share/misc/bsd-family-tree, and elsewhere. Kris --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBxfmBWry0BWjoQKURAjmpAKC5OujouZ5znM9xqmWaCgX+Z2jTMACfeKF/ tUC5rIlONWDacE02cdygQxo= =6+/O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 22:23:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C076416A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:23:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7073B43D39 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:23:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from donnex@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so60272wri for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:23:26 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jsXxHtQrpc0ERFkdiZMttD4Yr2sxiKayLfwdqHYNhizReQW9WULWggG/epjMf+649fSA2hawtTNsZJ/5USpasuNzajimDNZEUUyJv6ResjLulSjy2pdu5H1HxGUXpS+wUKJeXBhg7EjInJh7Agx8MZ2dkbRjA2wDG2OVf4fIWBw= Received: by 10.54.28.65 with SMTP id b65mr442489wrb; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:23:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.29.19 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:23:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2a37e1ef0412191423786ac08a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:23:26 +0100 From: Daniel Johansson To: questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Do I have to rebuild my jails too when I rebuild the server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Johansson List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:23:27 -0000 I'm a big fan of jails and use three on my server. I also try to keep my server up to date and I rebuild it frequently but when I rebuild my server, update to the latest version, do I also have to rebuild my jails? Can I have a jail built with 4.10 and use it without problems in 4.11 and so on? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 22:29:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4812316A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:29:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B3E43D2D for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:29:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DE2385605; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:59:19 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:59:19 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20041219222919.GE84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <2a37e1ef04121802575db1ba26@mail.gmail.com> <20041218195002.GC78603@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k3qmt+ucFURmlhDS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041218195002.GC78603@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: Daniel Johansson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My server gets kernel panic every 7th day X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:29:23 -0000 --k3qmt+ucFURmlhDS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday, 18 December 2004 at 11:50:02 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 11:57:35AM +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: >> Hi, i've had my server up for over a year now and it's been rock solid >> but for the latest weeks the server has rebooted evert Saturday at >> exact 04:19:57 because of a find command. I have no idea why and I've >> checked the cron log and I don't think any crontab is runned at that >> time. Not as far as I can see from the cron log. Anyway find makes the >> server get a kernel panic and it reboots. This is the fourth week in a >> row it happens and I've checked the hardware, no problems at all. > > How did you "check the hardware"? Hardware failure is by far the > most common cause of "strange panics under abnormal load [such as > when the weekly cron job runs]". If this panic occurs repeatedly under certain circumstances, it's probably not hardware. Anyway, there's not much point standing outside and scratching our heads. We have a facility for analysing this kind of problem: the processor dump and kernel debugger. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --k3qmt+ucFURmlhDS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBxgC/IubykFB6QiMRArdeAKC0GsW1hwNli4SLRxqvLA5VIKwooACghyar 5XkHxxt/vItVdtCwsIInmVs= =hmyx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k3qmt+ucFURmlhDS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 22:36:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDD416A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:36:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22CC843D1F for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:36:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) iBJMaQv42705; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:36:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Hexren" Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:36:26 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <33115721739.20041219200047@hexren.net> Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: combining 2 ADSL Lines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:36:32 -0000 It's probably a good learning experience for Netgraph but let me call your attention to the following sentence in the man page before you spend too much time on this: "...The one2many provides a simple mechanism for routing packets over several links in a one-to-many (and in the reverse direction, many-to-one) fashion..." Now, OK, you can set it up in the forward direction (out) but, which of your 2 ISP's is going to run it on their end to send the packets back to you? And how will that one combine with the other ISP? Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Hexren > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 11:01 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: combining 2 ADSL Lines > > > TM> Hexren, > > TM> People have asked about your scenario dozens of times on various > TM> DSL usergroups for at least the last 4 years. We see this all > TM> the time on the Zebra and Quagga mailing lists. > > TM> In a word, it's not possible. > > TM> I've told numerous people it's not possible on these mailing > TM> lists and been sworn at, had people tell me I didn't know what > TM> I was talking about, etc. etc. None of these people who > TM> were insistent that there was a way to get it to work ever ended > TM> up doing so then coming back and saying 'nanner nanner nanner, I > TM> was right and you were wrong' > > TM> While your introduction of a second server 'in the internet' > TM> is an interesting variation of this question, it's still impossible. > > > --------------------------------------------- > > Just out of curiousity, I think I'll try the ng_one2many approach. If > it works I will come back and say 'nanner nanner nanner', > promise. If not I am propably too ashamed to > come back and tell that I did not believe somebody knowing more > than me (which in fact would then have been proven) ;) > > Hexren > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 22:38:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B911C16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:38:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EFA043D3F for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:38:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EFE38561D; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:08:01 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:08:01 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Daniel Johansson Message-ID: <20041219223801.GG84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <2a37e1ef04121802575db1ba26@mail.gmail.com> <20041218195002.GC78603@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041219222919.GE84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> <2a37e1ef04121914352677c442@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oXNgvKVxGWJ0RPMJ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2a37e1ef04121914352677c442@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: My server gets kernel panic every 7th day X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:38:04 -0000 --oXNgvKVxGWJ0RPMJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 19 December 2004 at 23:35:18 +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: > On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:59:19 +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey > wrote: >> On Saturday, 18 December 2004 at 11:50:02 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: >>> On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 11:57:35AM +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: >>>> Hi, i've had my server up for over a year now and it's been rock solid >>>> but for the latest weeks the server has rebooted evert Saturday at >>>> exact 04:19:57 because of a find command. I have no idea why and I've >>>> checked the cron log and I don't think any crontab is runned at that >>>> time. Not as far as I can see from the cron log. Anyway find makes the >>>> server get a kernel panic and it reboots. This is the fourth week in a >>>> row it happens and I've checked the hardware, no problems at all. >>> >>> How did you "check the hardware"? Hardware failure is by far the >>> most common cause of "strange panics under abnormal load [such as >>> when the weekly cron job runs]". >> >> If this panic occurs repeatedly under certain circumstances, it's >> probably not hardware. Anyway, there's not much point standing >> outside and scratching our heads. We have a facility for analysing >> this kind of problem: the processor dump and kernel debugger. > > Yeah, I want to say thank you for your help. I think I've been able to > reproduce the kernel panic now, finalay! > > On my server I run 3 jails and every night at 04:15 when it runs > periodic weekly it runs it in 3 jails + the host enviroment. This > seems to cause the kernel panic, I don't really know why yet. I can > run periodic weekly separatly in every jail + the host without kernel > panic but when I run it at the same time on all places it kernel > panics. What does the dump backtrace show? > It can still be the PSU, don't have any other atm to try with. I'll > do some more testing and see if I can get any more info. There's no point looking at the hardware until you've looked at the dump. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --oXNgvKVxGWJ0RPMJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBxgLJIubykFB6QiMRArGNAJ4/yrrOI+zfUN1IshUiP2LIe1UZeACgtJYy HWl+n/kAwesb5nYkJb57zHU= =XAHb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oXNgvKVxGWJ0RPMJ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 22:42:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D46016A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:42:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B10243D46 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:42:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from donnex@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so61113wri for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:42:20 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ue6ujFD+SriOMvjNe4tSJRvLbW8148CWYQXceopqBbz0CC1EdlgacPXwWpNBVgwPQmBoUBAlOzR5BkIyy5Q1TbTHbP4KY+zn3VZJxa+7uSkGBbmv3xDtz+pabJ5ft6FJn6pOI0LqnNPdAAyj1UiRWiqsP0qtIKqfpjtNe6xtjyA= Received: by 10.54.54.80 with SMTP id c80mr34253wra; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:42:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.29.19 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:42:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2a37e1ef04121914421fe84902@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:42:20 +0100 From: Daniel Johansson To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey In-Reply-To: <20041219223801.GG84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <2a37e1ef04121802575db1ba26@mail.gmail.com> <20041218195002.GC78603@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041219222919.GE84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> <2a37e1ef04121914352677c442@mail.gmail.com> <20041219223801.GG84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My server gets kernel panic every 7th day X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Johansson List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:42:21 -0000 Okay, is this hard to do? I've no idea how to look at the dump or how to understand the dump. You don't have to be kernel hacker to understand that? On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:08:01 +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Sunday, 19 December 2004 at 23:35:18 +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:59:19 +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey > > wrote: > >> On Saturday, 18 December 2004 at 11:50:02 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > >>> On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 11:57:35AM +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: > >>>> Hi, i've had my server up for over a year now and it's been rock solid > >>>> but for the latest weeks the server has rebooted evert Saturday at > >>>> exact 04:19:57 because of a find command. I have no idea why and I've > >>>> checked the cron log and I don't think any crontab is runned at that > >>>> time. Not as far as I can see from the cron log. Anyway find makes the > >>>> server get a kernel panic and it reboots. This is the fourth week in a > >>>> row it happens and I've checked the hardware, no problems at all. > >>> > >>> How did you "check the hardware"? Hardware failure is by far the > >>> most common cause of "strange panics under abnormal load [such as > >>> when the weekly cron job runs]". > >> > >> If this panic occurs repeatedly under certain circumstances, it's > >> probably not hardware. Anyway, there's not much point standing > >> outside and scratching our heads. We have a facility for analysing > >> this kind of problem: the processor dump and kernel debugger. > > > > Yeah, I want to say thank you for your help. I think I've been able to > > reproduce the kernel panic now, finalay! > > > > On my server I run 3 jails and every night at 04:15 when it runs > > periodic weekly it runs it in 3 jails + the host enviroment. This > > seems to cause the kernel panic, I don't really know why yet. I can > > run periodic weekly separatly in every jail + the host without kernel > > panic but when I run it at the same time on all places it kernel > > panics. > > What does the dump backtrace show? > > > It can still be the PSU, don't have any other atm to try with. I'll > > do some more testing and see if I can get any more info. > > There's no point looking at the hardware until you've looked at the > dump. > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 22:44:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C0416A4CE; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:44:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169BF43D1D; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:44:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) iBJMiMv42747; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:44:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" , "Daniel Johansson" Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:44:22 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <20041219223801.GG84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> Importance: Normal cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: My server gets kernel panic every 7th day X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:44:23 -0000 If I may interject, why should he bother? Seems to me his next step should be setting up a new server with a fresh FreeBSD copy on it, duplicating the 3 jails, then firing off the 4 periodics and seeing if that blows up. If so that is enough info to file a bug report, and he can then simply adjust his script so that the periodics aren't all run at the same time. If someone else wants to spend the time researching this - like YOU for example - then great. >From the Project's point of view, his problems aren't interesting unless they can be reproduced - and from his point of view all he wants to do is fix the problem - and he now knows how to do it. (run the periodic weekly at different times) Grubbing around in a dump traceback does not prove that a problem is reproducible. Ted Mittelstaedt Author, The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Greg 'groggy' > Lehey > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 2:38 PM > To: Daniel Johansson > Cc: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: My server gets kernel panic every 7th day > > > On Sunday, 19 December 2004 at 23:35:18 +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:59:19 +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey > > wrote: > >> On Saturday, 18 December 2004 at 11:50:02 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > >>> On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 11:57:35AM +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: > >>>> Hi, i've had my server up for over a year now and it's been > rock solid > >>>> but for the latest weeks the server has rebooted evert Saturday at > >>>> exact 04:19:57 because of a find command. I have no idea why and I've > >>>> checked the cron log and I don't think any crontab is runned at that > >>>> time. Not as far as I can see from the cron log. Anyway find > makes the > >>>> server get a kernel panic and it reboots. This is the fourth > week in a > >>>> row it happens and I've checked the hardware, no problems at all. > >>> > >>> How did you "check the hardware"? Hardware failure is by far the > >>> most common cause of "strange panics under abnormal load [such as > >>> when the weekly cron job runs]". > >> > >> If this panic occurs repeatedly under certain circumstances, it's > >> probably not hardware. Anyway, there's not much point standing > >> outside and scratching our heads. We have a facility for analysing > >> this kind of problem: the processor dump and kernel debugger. > > > > Yeah, I want to say thank you for your help. I think I've been able to > > reproduce the kernel panic now, finalay! > > > > On my server I run 3 jails and every night at 04:15 when it runs > > periodic weekly it runs it in 3 jails + the host enviroment. This > > seems to cause the kernel panic, I don't really know why yet. I can > > run periodic weekly separatly in every jail + the host without kernel > > panic but when I run it at the same time on all places it kernel > > panics. > > What does the dump backtrace show? > > > It can still be the PSU, don't have any other atm to try with. I'll > > do some more testing and see if I can get any more info. > > There's no point looking at the hardware until you've looked at the > dump. > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 22:53:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 956F216A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:53:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFFE743D2D for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:53:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC61285666; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:23:18 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:23:18 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Daniel Johansson Message-ID: <20041219225318.GH84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <2a37e1ef04121802575db1ba26@mail.gmail.com> <20041218195002.GC78603@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041219222919.GE84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> <2a37e1ef04121914352677c442@mail.gmail.com> <20041219223801.GG84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> <2a37e1ef04121914421fe84902@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="K1n7F7fSdjvFAEnM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2a37e1ef04121914421fe84902@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My server gets kernel panic every 7th day X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:53:23 -0000 --K1n7F7fSdjvFAEnM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday, 19 December 2004 at 23:42:20 +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: > On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:08:01 +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey > wrote: >> On Sunday, 19 December 2004 at 23:35:18 +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: >>> On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:59:19 +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey >>> wrote: >>>> On Saturday, 18 December 2004 at 11:50:02 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: >>>>> On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 11:57:35AM +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: >>>>>> Hi, i've had my server up for over a year now and it's been rock sol= id >>>>>> but for the latest weeks the server has rebooted evert Saturday at >>>>>> exact 04:19:57 because of a find command. I have no idea why and I've >>>>>> checked the cron log and I don't think any crontab is runned at that >>>>>> time. Not as far as I can see from the cron log. Anyway find makes t= he >>>>>> server get a kernel panic and it reboots. This is the fourth week in= a >>>>>> row it happens and I've checked the hardware, no problems at all. >>>>> >>>>> How did you "check the hardware"? Hardware failure is by far the >>>>> most common cause of "strange panics under abnormal load [such as >>>>> when the weekly cron job runs]". >>>> >>>> If this panic occurs repeatedly under certain circumstances, it's >>>> probably not hardware. Anyway, there's not much point standing >>>> outside and scratching our heads. We have a facility for analysing >>>> this kind of problem: the processor dump and kernel debugger. >>> >>> Yeah, I want to say thank you for your help. I think I've been able to >>> reproduce the kernel panic now, finalay! >>> >>> On my server I run 3 jails and every night at 04:15 when it runs >>> periodic weekly it runs it in 3 jails + the host enviroment. This >>> seems to cause the kernel panic, I don't really know why yet. I can >>> run periodic weekly separatly in every jail + the host without kernel >>> panic but when I run it at the same time on all places it kernel >>> panics. >> >> What does the dump backtrace show? >> >>> It can still be the PSU, don't have any other atm to try with. I'll >>> do some more testing and see if I can get any more info. >> >> There's no point looking at the hardware until you've looked at the >> dump. I'd appreciate it if you didn't require me to move the text of your messages to where it fits. > Okay, is this hard to do? I've no idea how to look at the dump or > how to understand the dump. You don't have to be kernel hacker to > understand that? It's described in the handbook. Basically: - Build a kernel with debug symbols (you should be doing this anyway). You need the following line in your configuration file: makeoptions DEBUG=3D-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols - Make sure that dumps are enabled. You should have something like this in your /etc/rc.conf: dumpdev=3D/dev/ad0s2b The device name should be the name of your swap partition, and it must be at least slightly larger than your main memory. - Ensure you have a directory /var/crash, and that the file system in which it resides has enough space for the dump (a little larger than main memory). - When you get a dump, it will be copied to /var/crash automatically on reboot. Go there and get a backtrace. You don't say which version of FreeBSD you're using, but in general this will do it: # cd /var/crash # gdb -k /usr/obj/src/sys/GENERIC/kernel.debug vmcore.0 (gdb) bt =20 The name of the kernel (kernel.debug) depends on how you built your kernel. If it's not called GENERIC, the name of the directory will change accordingly. That's it in a nutshell. There's much more detail in chapter 6 of my debug tutorial, which you can find at http://www.lemis.com/grog/Papers/Debug-tutorial/tutorial.pdf . Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --K1n7F7fSdjvFAEnM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBxgZeIubykFB6QiMRAv89AKCrjuusTCI/XtbNRIbkbCztLSVY4QCfX7zv tUBu0zXuB/1Ezo9YzmktJKk= =WqFV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --K1n7F7fSdjvFAEnM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 22:54:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9293916A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:54:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D4543D48 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:54:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-197-67.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com ([209.6.197.67] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #7) id 1Cg9x0-0003Qx-00 for FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:54:54 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16838.1541.445869.73593@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:51:49 -0500 To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041219215825.GA99436@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41C55BBF.9060808@free.fr> <20041219215825.GA99436@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta16) "celeriac" XEmacs Lucid Subject: Re: Too many entries in UPDATING ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:54:55 -0000 Kris Kennaway writes: > > And, if the later is > > the case, how can I know the precise release date of > > 5.2.1-RELEASE ? Is there a calendar somewhere on the web, or, > > referably, a log file or command on my system ? Or maybe an > > utility helping in this task ? > > The information is in many places: on the FreeBSD website, under > /usr/share/misc/bsd-family-tree, and elsewhere. Is there any reason: huff@> uname -a FreeBSD jerusalem.litteratus.org 6.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT #0: Mon Dec 13 15:17:52 EST 2004 huff@jerusalem.litteratus.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JERUSALEM i386 doesn't work? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 23:00:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7419116A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:00:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4135643D31 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:00:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7C314514F5; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:00:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:00:25 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20041219230025.GA15751@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41C55BBF.9060808@free.fr> <20041219215825.GA99436@xor.obsecurity.org> <16838.1541.445869.73593@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <16838.1541.445869.73593@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too many entries in UPDATING ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:00:26 -0000 --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 05:51:49PM -0500, Robert Huff wrote: >=20 > Kris Kennaway writes: >=20 > > > And, if the later is=20 > > > the case, how can I know the precise release date of > > > 5.2.1-RELEASE ? Is there a calendar somewhere on the web, or, > > > referably, a log file or command on my system ? Or maybe an > > > utility helping in this task ?=20 > > =20 > > The information is in many places: on the FreeBSD website, under > > /usr/share/misc/bsd-family-tree, and elsewhere. >=20 > Is there any reason: >=20 > huff@> uname -a > FreeBSD jerusalem.litteratus.org 6.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT #0: Mon = Dec 13 15:17:52 EST 2004 huff@jerusalem.litteratus.org:/usr/obj/usr/src= /sys/JERUSALEM i386 >=20 > doesn't work? That's the date you compiled a new kernel, not the date you last updated the sources for the kernel + world. Kris --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBxggJWry0BWjoQKURAhEDAKDItpHZ/rQcYyB8Z3DeiKe+v6H3CwCdFiKb WathwtwyKYvzBbOXniYcZwA= =Z/WR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 23:21:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DEA616A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:21:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C889143D46 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:21:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leonmk@optonline.net) Received: from D1TWQX41 (ool-18b93da2.dyn.optonline.net [24.185.61.162]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <0I8Z007CQSVYIG@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:21:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:21:30 -0500 From: Leon To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <000601c4e621$788afb60$a23db918@D1TWQX41> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Access to the Internet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:21:35 -0000 Hi, I installed a "BSD" on the "VMware station" as a guest operating system. I use a 'NAT'. I would like to "BSD" to be connected to my main op. system, via "VMware station". I have set "BSD" as a "GATE". But when I have tried to connect to the Internet by using "KDE", it did not work. It gave me an error: "Unknown host www.dke-look.org. How can I configure it properly? What should I do? Thanks, Leon. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 23:30:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158BB16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:30:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F7743D4C for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:30:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-197-67.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com ([209.6.197.67] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #7) id 1CgAV9-0006EC-00 for FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:30:11 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16838.3657.838541.435886@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:27:05 -0500 To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041219230025.GA15751@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41C55BBF.9060808@free.fr> <20041219215825.GA99436@xor.obsecurity.org> <16838.1541.445869.73593@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20041219230025.GA15751@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta16) "celeriac" XEmacs Lucid Subject: Re: Too many entries in UPDATING ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:30:12 -0000 Kris Kennaway writes: > > > The information is in many places: on the FreeBSD website, under > > > /usr/share/misc/bsd-family-tree, and elsewhere. > > > > Is there any reason: > > > > huff@> uname -a > > > doesn't work? > > That's the date you compiled a new kernel, not the date you last > updated the sources for the kernel + world. I'm confused. To the original poster: are you asking how to determine when the last update of your system sources (via cvsup etc.) happened? Or how to determine when the last system (kernel+system utilities upgrade happened? (Information about the official dates of various releases can be found at "http://www.freebsd.org/releases/index.html".) Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 23:31:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A49E16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:31:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF2443D45 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:31:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A003985674; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:01:53 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:01:53 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20041219233153.GI84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20041219223801.GG84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UthUFkbMtH2ceUK2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 422 cc: Daniel Johansson cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: My server gets kernel panic every 7th day X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:31:57 -0000 --UthUFkbMtH2ceUK2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Please don't quote out of sequence. On Sunday, 19 December 2004 at 14:44:22 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > On Sunday, December 19, 2004 2:38 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> On Sunday, 19 December 2004 at 23:35:18 +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: >>> It can still be the PSU, don't have any other atm to try with. I'll >>> do some more testing and see if I can get any more info. >> >> There's no point looking at the hardware until you've looked at the >> dump. > > If I may interject, why should he bother? So he can find out what the problem is. > Seems to me his next step should be setting up a new server with a > fresh FreeBSD copy on it, duplicating the 3 jails, then firing off > the 4 periodics and seeing if that blows up. This would take a lot of time and money. And if it blows up, it doesn't buy him anything: he still has to find the cause of the problem. If it doesn't blow up, he doesn't know whether it's going to stay that way or maybe reappear in a while when the constellations are right. Why should he want to do that? > If so that is enough info to file a bug report, and he can then > simply adjust his script so that the periodics aren't all run at the > same time. This is a *VERY* bad idea. If there's a bug, you should fix it, not hide it. Working around it is the Microsoft Way, and hidden bugs often come back to bite you. > If someone else wants to spend the time researching this - like YOU > for example - then great. Why should I want to do it? > From the Project's point of view, his problems aren't interesting > unless they can be reproduced - and from his point of view all he > wants to do is fix the problem - and he now knows how to do it. > (run the periodic weekly at different times) Hiding a problem doesn't fix it. > Grubbing around in a dump traceback does not prove that a problem is > reproducible. He's already proved that the problem is reproducible. Greg -- When replying to this message, please take care not to mutilate the original text. =20 For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/email.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --UthUFkbMtH2ceUK2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBxg9pIubykFB6QiMRAutbAKCJgn2QSGfjhVjiIKkM2gXlZppZnACgmGgu fvYEeXsY7xu+iwdGUuKaGH4= =Lwbi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UthUFkbMtH2ceUK2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 23:32:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B16616A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:32:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BF943D5A for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:32:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from donnex@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so63414wri for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:32:28 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=HmvFed5rTrbe8UPxIl+JV7KKsVrOPNzumaBjX/woZXLaK8PWGtSSWJ1+HT1JKV6QvKuYnCbAb/ckLpXJ52322E02eoA4EIx4kLXbCWYxGba3rFByZXOkFSem/flmc50J6bCacJxMrlzdlNqBH3TLQlPkn7Ke+gCnllL2N8+4IiU= Received: by 10.54.53.23 with SMTP id b23mr281073wra; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:32:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.29.63 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:32:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2a37e1ef041219153244c26d9e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 00:32:27 +0100 From: Daniel Johansson To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041219223801.GG84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My server gets kernel panic every 7th day X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Johansson List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:32:29 -0000 Yeah, thank you. I changed the cronjob file so that they run periodic weekly on diffrent days. So I hope I won't get any more panics now. I don't have the time or energy to bebug the kernel atm, maby later but thanks anyway. Anyone else uses jails and noticed the same behaviour? I think I'll do some more testing on a new box when I've got time to see if I can reproduce it there. On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:44:22 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > If I may interject, why should he bother? > > Seems to me his next step should be setting up a new server > with a fresh FreeBSD copy on it, duplicating the 3 jails, then > firing off the 4 periodics and seeing if that blows up. > > If so that is enough info to file a bug report, and he can > then simply adjust his script so that the periodics aren't all > run at the same time. If someone else wants to spend the time > researching this - like YOU for example - then great. > > From the Project's point of view, his problems aren't interesting > unless they can be reproduced - and from his point of view all he > wants to do is fix the problem - and he now knows how to do it. > (run the periodic weekly at different times) Grubbing around in > a dump traceback does not prove that a problem is reproducible. > > Ted Mittelstaedt > Author, The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Greg 'groggy' > > Lehey > > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 2:38 PM > > To: Daniel Johansson > > Cc: FreeBSD Questions > > Subject: Re: My server gets kernel panic every 7th day > > > > > > On Sunday, 19 December 2004 at 23:35:18 +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: > > > On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:59:19 +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey > > > wrote: > > >> On Saturday, 18 December 2004 at 11:50:02 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > >>> On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 11:57:35AM +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: > > >>>> Hi, i've had my server up for over a year now and it's been > > rock solid > > >>>> but for the latest weeks the server has rebooted evert Saturday at > > >>>> exact 04:19:57 because of a find command. I have no idea why and I've > > >>>> checked the cron log and I don't think any crontab is runned at that > > >>>> time. Not as far as I can see from the cron log. Anyway find > > makes the > > >>>> server get a kernel panic and it reboots. This is the fourth > > week in a > > >>>> row it happens and I've checked the hardware, no problems at all. > > >>> > > >>> How did you "check the hardware"? Hardware failure is by far the > > >>> most common cause of "strange panics under abnormal load [such as > > >>> when the weekly cron job runs]". > > >> > > >> If this panic occurs repeatedly under certain circumstances, it's > > >> probably not hardware. Anyway, there's not much point standing > > >> outside and scratching our heads. We have a facility for analysing > > >> this kind of problem: the processor dump and kernel debugger. > > > > > > Yeah, I want to say thank you for your help. I think I've been able to > > > reproduce the kernel panic now, finalay! > > > > > > On my server I run 3 jails and every night at 04:15 when it runs > > > periodic weekly it runs it in 3 jails + the host enviroment. This > > > seems to cause the kernel panic, I don't really know why yet. I can > > > run periodic weekly separatly in every jail + the host without kernel > > > panic but when I run it at the same time on all places it kernel > > > panics. > > > > What does the dump backtrace show? > > > > > It can still be the PSU, don't have any other atm to try with. I'll > > > do some more testing and see if I can get any more info. > > > > There's no point looking at the hardware until you've looked at the > > dump. > > > > Greg > > -- > > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 19 23:52:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5474116A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:52:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E537043D3F for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:52:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBJNqWEb079290 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:52:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41C61424.60903@mac.com> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:52:04 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leon References: <000601c4e621$788afb60$a23db918@D1TWQX41> In-Reply-To: <000601c4e621$788afb60$a23db918@D1TWQX41> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Access to the Internet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:52:48 -0000 Leon wrote: [ ... ] > But when I have tried to connect to the Internet by using "KDE", it did not work. > It gave me an error: > "Unknown host www.dke-look.org. > > How can I configure it properly? > What should I do? You might be able to simply do a "dhclient", if your local network has a well-configured DHCP server available. Otherwise, you may need to list DNS nameservers in a file called /etc/resolv.conf yourself, see "man resolv.conf". -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 00:24:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E1416A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 00:24:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao12.cox.net (lakermmtao12.cox.net [68.230.240.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E509943D39 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 00:24:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jacoulter@jacoulter.net) Received: from [192.168.1.110] (really [68.105.58.150]) by lakermmtao12.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id <20041220002427.XCGX1659.lakermmtao12.cox.net@[192.168.1.110]>; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:24:27 -0500 Message-ID: <41C61C35.7060205@jacoulter.net> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:26:29 -0600 From: "James A. Coulter" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 00:24:29 -0000 Paul wrote: > hi, > i currently installed 4.10-release and cvsup to get -stable but it gave me > 4.11-prelease is there a current tag > that allow me to get 4.10-stable? > regards, > paul > The same thing happened to me. After some googling, I found this: "RELENG_4 marks the 4-STABLE branch. OS names along this branch all have the major version number 4 but *aren't* tied to any particular minor version number. Those change about every four months. Yes, a 4.8-STABLE OS did exist, for a few months after 4.8-RELEASE came out. That was back between April and August 2003. Then that code branch was successively relabelled (over the course of a few weeks) as 4.9-PRERELEASE, 4.9-RC, etc. until for a vanishingly short time it was technically 4.9-RELEASE and then became 4.9-STABLE. At which it remained until a few weeks ago when it became 4.10-BETA, etc. etc. until right now, you get 4.10-STABLE. 4.10-RELEASE hasn't quite happened yet: any day now though." http://www.atm.tut.fi/list-archive/freebsd-stable/msg17655.html I don't think we can go back to 4.10-STABLE using the stable branch tag. 4.10-STABLE has become 4.11-PRERELEASE and will soon become 4.11-STABLE itself (scheduled date is 24 January 2005 - release schedule here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11R/schedule.html) HTH Jim -- James A. Coulter jacoulter@jacoulter.net http://jacoulter.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 00:38:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450AB16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 00:38:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE34643D2F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 00:38:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so104435rne for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:38:04 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=kQ1iIZ7AgGZFrao2+IG5J2U+Pz9eoJ6j3yEfZ82HzzWsgginrbwRci2NAEAWckyighJqn2Bkj+dJoeO8QYxx3uh7GZKczQ6CkaGw/iWJz97P6LDGdD8yYqLmGPo8u2Ih7HdNxugxD13T5kCNSDbfcsrhkfKTKYhKbrUj2qS5Fcg= Received: by 10.38.88.63 with SMTP id l63mr351559rnb; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:38:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.96.30 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:38:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:38:04 -0800 From: patrick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Subject: Re: "ipfw count" equivalent for pf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: patrick List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 00:38:05 -0000 I didn't receive any advice relevant to solving my problem, but I did manage to figure it out in the end. I thought I'd share my solution in case anyone else wants to do the same thing: My /etc/pf.conf has the following lines: ext_if="rl0" external_addr="x.x.x.x" pass in on $ext_if from any to $external_addr label "$dstaddr in" pass out on $ext_if from $external_addr to any label "$srcaddr out" Activate the rules with "pfctl -f /etc/pf.conf", and then you can display the counters by doing a "pfctl -sl" which outputs something like: x.x.x.x in 14363 7448 734450 x.x.x.x out 13810 6362 683319 To zero the counters, I've just been calling "pfctl -f /etc/pf.conf" again, though there may be a more "proper" way. Patrick On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 11:57:29 -0800, patrick wrote: > Hi there, > > Now that FreeBSD 5.x has pf from OpenBSD, I'm wondering if some of the > pf experts can help me with porting a simple ipfw configuration from > FreeBSD 4.x to pf in FreeBSD 5.x. > > On our 4.x servers, we have several rules like: > > ipfw add count ip from any to x.x.x.x > ipfw add count ip from x.x.x.x to any > > ... to keep track of how much traffic is going through a particular IP > address. Every night, I capture the data and zero the counters. > > Using pf, I'm having a difficult time how to establish a similar > ruleset so that I can gather the same sort of data. Someone on the > openbsd-misc list told me to "add labels to those rules you want to > account traffic on and use `pdfctl -sl` to read their counters." The > problem is that I'm not sure how to describe the rules using pf. I > suppose the rules should just pass all traffic to and from my external > interface, but from all the pf documentation I've read, I can't find > an example that seems to do this for me. > > Can any experts lend a hand here? It seems like this should be > dead-easy to do, but like many things from the OpenBSD world, it does > not seem to straight-forward to me. > > Thanks, > > Patrick > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 01:13:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946E016A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 01:13:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moghedien.mukappabeta.net (moghedien.mukappabeta.net [194.145.150.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BF343D45 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 01:13:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@mukappabeta.de) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (pD9542979.dip.t-dialin.net [217.84.41.121]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by moghedien.mukappabeta.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B048A2D6E; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 02:09:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C62755.2030705@mukappabeta.de> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 02:13:57 +0100 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikolas Britton References: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: migrating from thunderbird to mutt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 01:13:54 -0000 Nikolas Britton wrote: > How do I get my old email (from thunderbird, mbox?) into mutt? TB keeps its local folders in mbox files at ~/.thunderbird/xyz.default/Mail/Local\ Folders. Just copy them over, or read them via mutt directly (and store the messages where you want them, typically ~/Mail). > Can mutt handle um like 5+ email address and have them all separated and > be able to send from diffrent email accounts? No. > If I remember right mutt is just a mail reader, so how do I get mail to > and sent from mutt? By setting up your MTA (sendmail, postfix, qmail). Alternatively, you can use mutt with pop3 or imap4 but its support for these protocols is primitive at best. And then you'd still have to configure sendmail for outgoing mail. > How does it handle hyperlinks, if I select something will it open up in > firefox or whatever? No. > Message filtering, for example I have all the different freebsd mailing > lists automatically put into different folders, and junk mail sorting? No. You have to setup procmail (or a similar program) to do that for you. > Speell check? No. You have to setup your editor for running ispell or similar. -- Matthias Buelow; mkb@{mukappabeta,informatik.uni-wuerzburg}.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 02:06:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F95016A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 02:06:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E257D43D53 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 02:06:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmscheidt@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so75307rne for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:06:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=qefgrCbSgMfRHLb86XLsaKeP5bDTCWZir0DiPCofVdMUon+t5u+CPStMUiy2HvHD8t8hLgtD90S1ec70O1POCEbR823AZ2rOx+fsKubLQWmmwRu+JYv+AivOyYq4k0yUbpnyoVRPhNUKCbsTyDD1Aa+KX1ipcIVtGKIe6wycdJI= Received: by 10.38.81.10 with SMTP id e10mr279459rnb; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:06:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.73.11 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:06:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2400a5d404121918064fbf1596@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:06:36 -0500 From: David Scheidt To: Ruben de Groot , David Scheidt , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041209140806.GA35611@ei.bzerk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <2400a5d404120718542c596833@mail.gmail.com> <20041209140806.GA35611@ei.bzerk.org> Subject: Re: pptp problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David Scheidt List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 02:06:37 -0000 On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 15:08:06 +0100, Ruben de Groot wrote: > On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 09:54:46PM -0500, David Scheidt typed: > > I'm having problems getting a PPTP VPN to work, using net/pptpclient. > > I get the tunnel set up, but I'm not sending traffic over it. > > > > my etc/ppp/ppp.conf entry > > > > VPN: > > set autname MYNAME > > set authkey PASSWD > > set timeout 0 > > add default HISADDR So I got things to work. It seems I have to add a host route to the PPTP server. To get mpd to work, I not only have to add the host route, but delete the default route, else it fails to change it. This seems not quite sensible. -- David Scheidt dmscheidt@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 02:31:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7442A16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 02:31:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF19143D3F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 02:31:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)iBK3VF47003334 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:31:16 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1F6CDE86-522F-11D9-823C-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-1-648581346" To: FreeBSD Questions From: Eric F Crist Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:30:32 -0600 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: why can't I access ftp.freebsd.org/pub/freebsd/distfiles? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 02:31:16 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1-648581346 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed My network seems to be fine, yet I can't access distfiles. Anyone have any ideas? thanks _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-1-648581346 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHGOUkACgkQRAAY9knOW+pylACfen5B3AEJzHI8qben6DXKmHdp kbIAn00oiePbf62JX2YpKYEZ3OZZn6Sh =1ytN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-1-648581346-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 02:47:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2078816A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 02:47:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5A143D3F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 02:47:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id iBK2ldTB042208; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:47:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:47:38 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Eric F Crist Message-ID: <20041220024738.GA3642@dan.emsphone.com> References: <1F6CDE86-522F-11D9-823C-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1F6CDE86-522F-11D9-823C-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: why can't I access ftp.freebsd.org/pub/freebsd/distfiles? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 02:47:40 -0000 In the last episode (Dec 19), Eric F Crist said: > My network seems to be fine, yet I can't access distfiles. Anyone > have any ideas? You didn't give us the error message, so I will put my magic hat on and extract it from your subconscious: 550 No such directory. Try /pub/FreeBSD/distfiles instead. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 02:51:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8549916A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 02:51:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DECA43D46 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 02:51:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)iBK3peqw003419; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:51:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <20041220024738.GA3642@dan.emsphone.com> References: <1F6CDE86-522F-11D9-823C-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> <20041220024738.GA3642@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-2-649807075" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:50:58 -0600 To: Dan Nelson X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: why can't I access ftp.freebsd.org/pub/freebsd/distfiles? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 02:51:46 -0000 --Apple-Mail-2-649807075 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Dec 19, 2004, at 8:47 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Dec 19), Eric F Crist said: >> My network seems to be fine, yet I can't access distfiles. Anyone >> have any ideas? > > You didn't give us the error message, so I will put my magic hat on and > extract it from your subconscious: > > 550 No such directory. > > Try /pub/FreeBSD/distfiles instead. > > > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@allantgroup.com Actually, if I browse to it with an FTP client, I get an error that it can't find the directory distfiles (server unavailable). This is the error I get when trying to install things from the ports tree right now, or use an FTP client. thanks for the reply. _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-2-649807075 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHGPhIACgkQRAAY9knOW+qVIgCfWzBJ3HjG/QawqXfP5WC9k0qT RtMAmwVqXjbZh0jT8eroUdCKHBVcRbDQ =0OdD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-2-649807075-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 03:04:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FDE16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:04:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from safeco.hostingservice.net (safeco.hostingservice.net [209.150.128.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B46243D5A for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:04:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adam@jamradar.com) Received: from PANASONIULSWMR (c-67-176-199-73.client.comcast.net [67.176.199.73])iBK34fl26372 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:04:41 -0600 Message-ID: <003201c4e640$a610a2a0$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> From: "Adam" To: Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:04:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: Change Bash-3.00 Prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:04:43 -0000 I installed bash shell and now my prompt says "bash-3.00#" How do I change the text before the #? I'd like it to say bash# instead of bash-3.00#. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 03:14:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E07D16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:14:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B5C43D2D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:14:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AC4585666; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:44:50 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:44:50 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Adam Message-ID: <20041220031450.GB84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <003201c4e640$a610a2a0$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Nm48CqPeykZpOG4/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <003201c4e640$a610a2a0$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Change Bash-3.00 Prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:14:55 -0000 --Nm48CqPeykZpOG4/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 19 December 2004 at 21:04:35 -0600, Adam wrote: > I installed bash shell and now my prompt says "bash-3.00#" > > How do I change the text before the #? I'd like it to say bash# instead of > bash-3.00#. export PS1="bash# " Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --Nm48CqPeykZpOG4/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBxkOqIubykFB6QiMRAur2AJ4nx3dPw1spQWF33yjqlvUsnO/QvQCfTZfL rOibc9iO5D8U41+osHWiDvQ= =6Xvc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Nm48CqPeykZpOG4/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 03:15:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCA816A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:15:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A21643D60 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:15:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id iBK3FZv9096566; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:15:35 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:15:35 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Eric F Crist Message-ID: <20041220031535.GB3642@dan.emsphone.com> References: <1F6CDE86-522F-11D9-823C-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> <20041220024738.GA3642@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: why can't I access ftp.freebsd.org/pub/freebsd/distfiles? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:15:36 -0000 In the last episode (Dec 19), Eric F Crist said: > On Dec 19, 2004, at 8:47 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: > >In the last episode (Dec 19), Eric F Crist said: > >>My network seems to be fine, yet I can't access distfiles. Anyone > >>have any ideas? > > > >You didn't give us the error message, so I will put my magic hat on and > >extract it from your subconscious: > > > > 550 No such directory. > > > >Try /pub/FreeBSD/distfiles instead. > > Actually, if I browse to it with an FTP client, I get an error that it > can't find the directory distfiles (server unavailable). This is the > error I get when trying to install things from the ports tree right > now, or use an FTP client. Paste the full output of /usr/bin/ftp ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/distfiles/ Do you maybe have ipv6 enabled in your kernel, but don't have an IPV6 route to the internet? One of the addresses that ftp.freebsd.org resolves to is 2001:4f8:0:2::e . -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 03:19:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8AC316A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:19:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from badcomputer.org (S01060040f4399d90.ok.shawcable.net [24.66.229.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39DB543D2F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:19:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bulliver@badcomputer.org) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (helo=virgo.badcomputer.org) by badcomputer.org with esmtp (Exim 6.28) id 1CgE5e-0006nb-Bx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:20:06 -0800 From: darren kirby Organization: Badcomputer Org. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:19:51 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <003201c4e640$a610a2a0$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> In-Reply-To: <003201c4e640$a610a2a0$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1913724.hONXcrQBPQ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200412191919.57796.bulliver@badcomputer.org> Subject: Re: Change Bash-3.00 Prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bulliver@badcomputer.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:19:53 -0000 --nextPart1913724.hONXcrQBPQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline quoth the Adam: > I installed bash shell and now my prompt says "bash-3.00#" > > How do I change the text before the #? I'd like it to say bash# instead = of > bash-3.00#. > > Thanks > Bash prompt is created from the env variable "PS1" If really all you want i= s=20 "bash#" then try: $ export PS1=3D"bash$ " to make it permanent, add to (or edit) one of your bash startup files,=20 probably /etc/profile for systemwide, or ~/.bashrc for users I like a bit more info in my prompt, so I use: PS1=3D"\[\033[0;31m\][$(date +%H:%M)][\u@\h \W]#\[\033[0m\]" =2Dd =2D-=20 darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org "...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected..." =2D Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 --nextPart1913724.hONXcrQBPQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBBxkTdwPD5Cr/3CJgRAuwwAKC1XiWuMKqcWBD6DbsdUz2P/XPX3gCfc+iM ZAexcwxv59ZvceFqwy1Zbwc= =y2+t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1913724.hONXcrQBPQ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 03:26:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A5316A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:26:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx3.mra.co.id (mx3.mra.co.id [202.51.19.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9317043D3F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:26:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reza@mra.co.id) Received: from localhost (localhost.mra.co.id [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.mra.co.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D6AA2E097 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:36:49 +0700 (WIT) Received: from mx3.mra.co.id ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx3.mra.co.id [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01376-25 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:36:49 +0700 (WIT) Received: from mailbox.mra.co.id (unknown [172.16.0.225]) by mx3.mra.co.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F672E095 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:36:49 +0700 (WIT) Received: from [172.16.0.228] (unknown [172.16.0.228]) by mailbox.mra.co.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA9734F1D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:09:49 +0700 (WIT) Message-ID: <41C59DAA.9050308@mra.co.id> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:26:34 +0700 From: Muhammad Reza User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mra.co.id Subject: V.35 Interface Card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:26:24 -0000 Dear List. Please recommend us with V.35 interface adapter that work good in FreeBSD-4.10. regards reza From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 03:31:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8511D16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:31:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao12.cox.net (lakermmtao12.cox.net [68.230.240.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA3543D53 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:31:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jacoulter@jacoulter.net) Received: from [192.168.1.110] (really [68.105.58.150]) by lakermmtao12.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id <20041220033059.ZIGY1659.lakermmtao12.cox.net@[192.168.1.110]>; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:30:59 -0500 Message-ID: <41C647ED.9050804@jacoulter.net> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:33:01 -0600 From: "James A. Coulter" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul References: <41C61C35.7060205@jacoulter.net> In-Reply-To: <41C61C35.7060205@jacoulter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -stable CORRECTION X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:31:01 -0000 James A. Coulter wrote: > Paul wrote: > >> hi, >> i currently installed 4.10-release and cvsup to get -stable but it >> gave me >> 4.11-prelease is there a current tag >> that allow me to get 4.10-stable? >> regards, >> paul >> > The same thing happened to me. After some googling, I found this: > > "RELENG_4 marks the 4-STABLE branch. OS names along this branch > all have the major version number 4 but *aren't* tied to any > particular minor version number. Those change about every four > months. Yes, a 4.8-STABLE OS did exist, for a few months after > 4.8-RELEASE came out. That was back between April and August > 2003. Then that code branch was successively relabelled (over the > course of a few weeks) as 4.9-PRERELEASE, 4.9-RC, etc. until for a > vanishingly short time it was technically 4.9-RELEASE and then > became 4.9-STABLE. At which it remained until a few weeks ago > when it became 4.10-BETA, etc. etc. until right now, you get > 4.10-STABLE. 4.10-RELEASE hasn't quite happened yet: any day now > though." > > http://www.atm.tut.fi/list-archive/freebsd-stable/msg17655.html > > I don't think we can go back to 4.10-STABLE using the stable branch tag. > 4.10-STABLE has become 4.11-PRERELEASE and will soon become 4.11-STABLE > itself (scheduled date is 24 January 2005 - release schedule here: > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11R/schedule.html) > > HTH > > Jim Sorry, I spoke too soon. Although I didn't find a procedure for it in the handbook, I read appendix A.6, CVS Tags,in the FreeBSD handbook and decided to try changing the default release tag from *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 to: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_10 I then followed the make buildworld procedure in section 19.4 of the handbook and I now have: jacoulter@arlette ~ 314$ uname -a FreeBSD arlette.mshome.net 4.10-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p5 #1: Sun Dec 19 20:43:22 CST 2004 jacoulter@arlette.mshome.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARLETTE i386 So you can go back to 4.10 if that's what you want, but 4.11 should be everything 4.10 was and then some. Jim -- James A. Coulter jacoulter@jacoulter.net http://jacoulter.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 03:36:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0885E16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:36:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.mail.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679D143D1D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:36:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from budyee@adelphia.net) Received: from Business1 ([68.67.234.202]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with SMTP id <20041220033650.MZTI5807.mta13.adelphia.net@Business1> for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:36:50 -0500 Message-ID: <0cce01c4e644$b7dc9df0$0d01a8c0@Business1> From: "Al Bincarousky" To: Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:33:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Older versions of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:36:52 -0000 Hello: I am looking for older versions of FreeBSD. Any version 3.5.1 to 4.4. Is = it possible to still download these versions? If not can it still be = purchased on CD? Thank you for any information that you may be able to = provide. Regards, Al From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 03:40:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F5D16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:40:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DEA43D31 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:40:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BA0485667; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:10:35 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:10:35 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Al Bincarousky Message-ID: <20041220034035.GC84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <0cce01c4e644$b7dc9df0$0d01a8c0@Business1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cX4WM3qIY/fHWHDu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0cce01c4e644$b7dc9df0$0d01a8c0@Business1> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Older versions of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:40:39 -0000 --cX4WM3qIY/fHWHDu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Single line paragraph. On Sunday, 19 December 2004 at 22:33:48 -0500, Al Bincarousky wrote: > > I am looking for older versions of FreeBSD. Any version 3.5.1 to > 4.4. Is it possible to still download these versions? If not can it > still be purchased on CD? Thank you for any information that you may > be able to provide. A lot depends on why you want them. If you're collecting CDs, then only the CD will do. If you want to run them, you should reconsider. If you're interested in them for academic reasons, you can check out any version back to 2.0 from CVS. For reasons related to the USL wars, the repository for release 1 of FreeBSD isn't available, though Caldera (now called "SCO") released the license a couple of years ago, so if you find one, you're now allowed to use it. Greg -- When replying to this message, please take care not to mutilate the original text. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/email.html Finger grog@FreeBSD.org for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --cX4WM3qIY/fHWHDu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBxkmzIubykFB6QiMRAsIYAKCH5x2Cb8A+Br7IvzAsx3EbZYhV0wCeJ5Ly epjr4/kPSvhpa8VJth2rnp0= =fOk3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cX4WM3qIY/fHWHDu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 05:02:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9121216A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 05:02:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from safeco.hostingservice.net (safeco.hostingservice.net [209.150.128.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7F343D2D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 05:02:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adam@jamradar.com) Received: from PANASONIULSWMR (c-67-176-199-73.client.comcast.net [67.176.199.73])iBK2cGE17703 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:38:20 -0600 Message-ID: <001601c4e63c$f77fca70$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> From: "Adam" To: Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:38:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Change "Bash-3.00#" Prompt??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 05:02:06 -0000 I installed bash shell and now my prompt says "bash-3.00#" How do I change the text before the #? I'd like it to say bash# instead = of bash-3.00#. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 05:26:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B0016A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 05:26:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5747443D54 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 05:26:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B860351380; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:26:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:26:55 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Al Bincarousky Message-ID: <20041220052655.GC24984@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <0cce01c4e644$b7dc9df0$0d01a8c0@Business1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mvpLiMfbWzRoNl4x" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0cce01c4e644$b7dc9df0$0d01a8c0@Business1> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Older versions of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 05:26:56 -0000 --mvpLiMfbWzRoNl4x Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 10:33:48PM -0500, Al Bincarousky wrote: > Hello: >=20 > I am looking for older versions of FreeBSD. Any version 3.5.1 to > 4.4. Is it possible to still download these versions? If not can it > still be purchased on CD? Thank you for any information that you may > be able to provide. http://mirrorlist.freebsd.org Kris P.S. Please wrap your lines at 70 characters so that your emails may be easily read. --mvpLiMfbWzRoNl4x Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBxmKeWry0BWjoQKURAm5VAKCX/zQ9nt4a8ERXmLiBqFtah1PDZwCgsnyS 55VI64SOSlEQ+Q5eWL33Cys= =45wZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mvpLiMfbWzRoNl4x-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 05:35:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254BC16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 05:35:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA90F43D53 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 05:35:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oliverfuchs@onlinehome.de) Received: from [212.227.126.206] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1CgGCz-0002H0-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:35:49 +0100 Received: from [217.246.201.30] (helo=oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de) (TLSv1:EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1CgGCY-0002tn-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:35:40 +0100 Received: from oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de (oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de [127.0.0.1])iBK5YOQa001627 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:34:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliverfuchs1@oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de) Received: (from oliverfuchs1@localhost) by oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBK5Xuu3001624 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:33:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliverfuchs1) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:33:56 +0100 From: Oliver Fuchs To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20041220053356.GA1502@oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <003201c4e640$a610a2a0$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <003201c4e640$a610a2a0$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:c2b2791553508cc938db2bcf18721a3c Subject: Re: Change Bash-3.00 Prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 05:35:51 -0000 On Sun, 19 Dec 2004, Adam wrote: > I installed bash shell and now my prompt says "bash-3.00#" > > How do I change the text before the #? I'd like it to say bash# instead of > bash-3.00#. Hi, I use this in my .bash_profile: PS1='(\[$(tput md)\]\t <\w>\[$(tput me)\]) $(echo $?) \$ ' export PATH PS1 Oliver -- ... don't touch the bang bang fruit From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 05:41:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7365F16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 05:41:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B788143D49 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 05:41:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:42:25 -0600 Message-ID: <41C665EB.9000901@daleco.biz> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:40:59 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel O'Connor References: <200412201033.48519.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <200412201254.11797.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200412201254.11797.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2004 05:42:29.0109 (UTC) FILETIME=[B166B250:01C4E656] cc: admin2@forkthepenguin.com cc: ctodd@chrismiller.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 Release and Realtek X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 05:41:01 -0000 This is questions@ fodder, isn't it? Daniel O'Connor wrote: >On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:44, ctodd@chrismiller.com wrote: > > >>The problem was that none of the snd_* modules were built, and I did >>rebuild the kernel. Once I built the modules, I was able to load the >>drivers. I think you need to add "device sound" to get these modules to >>build automgically. >> >> > >No, the modules are built regardless of the kernel options you use. > > > Hmm; how did ctodd know they weren't? I had one box that seemed weird in that it couldn't kldload anything; I somehow discovered that it had left /boot/kernel/ empty, but put all the *ko's in /boot/modules/ (or was it the other way 'round??) ... Anyway, once I copied everything over to the other dir, no problems with "kldload" (or sound, or ....) Could this be what happened in this case? Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 06:53:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C74216A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:53:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06EA043D1F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:53:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from NathanKelly31@aol.com) Received: from NathanKelly31@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.9a.1c2fb899 (4206) for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 01:53:43 -0500 (EST) From: NathanKelly31@aol.com Message-ID: <9a.1c2fb899.2ef7d0f7@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 01:53:43 EST To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10638 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: installing bsd on a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:53:47 -0000 hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or openbsd that is available to purchase??? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 06:55:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF5E16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:55:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7126E43D2D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:55:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6CE985605; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:25:19 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:25:19 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: NathanKelly31@aol.com Message-ID: <20041220065519.GK84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <9a.1c2fb899.2ef7d0f7@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Za/SMm3KZ11Dkftj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9a.1c2fb899.2ef7d0f7@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: installing bsd on a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:55:23 -0000 --Za/SMm3KZ11Dkftj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Monday, 20 December 2004 at 1:53:43 -0500, NathanKelly31@aol.com wrote: > hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or > openbsd that is available to purchase??? I've had good results with Dell laptops. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --Za/SMm3KZ11Dkftj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBxndXIubykFB6QiMRAnbLAJ0apfnPuZWZsUcYXq/sLXk2M//6JQCeP3Rv 9tENEng6Ii8r6uUHPoH31Ks= =l+ZS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Za/SMm3KZ11Dkftj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 06:56:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4048616A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:56:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from inetis.com (cpe-212-18-40-64.adsl.amis.net [212.18.40.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D75B243D39 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:56:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karel@inetis.com) Received: from [192.168.0.14] ([192.168.0.14]) by inetis.com with MailEnable ESMTP; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 07:56:17 +0100 Message-ID: <41C6778B.600@inetis.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 07:56:11 +0100 From: Karel Miklav User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.85.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: problem running openGL and glut based programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:56:24 -0000 Antoine Solomon wrote: > I have a problem running glut and gl based programs. when compiling > simple examples using GL and glut they appear to compile just fine. > But when executing them, I just get a blank window that doesn't do > anything. I am running glut libglut-6.0.1 Link with pthreads. -- Regards, Karel Miklav From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 06:59:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2891F16A4CE; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:59:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wolf.bytecraft.au.com (wolf.bytecraft.au.com [203.39.118.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC80343D48; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:59:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])iBK6xj2s093688; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:59:45 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from wolf.bytecraft.au.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wolf.bytecraft.au.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 93591-01-2; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:59:44 +1100 (EST) Received: from svmarshal.bytecraft.au.com ([10.0.0.4])iBK6xWih093676; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:59:32 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from svmailmel.bytecraft.internal (Not Verified[10.0.0.24]) by svmarshal.bytecraft.au.com with MailMarshal (v5,0,3,78) id ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:59:32 +1100 Received: from [10.0.17.42] ([10.0.17.42]) by svmailmel.bytecraft.internal with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:59:31 +1100 From: Murray Taylor To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" In-Reply-To: <20041220065519.GK84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <9a.1c2fb899.2ef7d0f7@aol.com> <20041220065519.GK84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Bytecraft Systems Message-Id: <1103525971.6683.36.camel@wstaylorm.dand06.au.bytecraft.au.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:59:31 +1100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2004 06:59:32.0222 (UTC) FILETIME=[74FDC1E0:01C4E661] cc: NathanKelly31@aol.com cc: freebsdquestions Subject: Re: installing bsd on a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:59:55 -0000 On Mon, 2004-12-20 at 17:55, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Monday, 20 December 2004 at 1:53:43 -0500, NathanKelly31@aol.com wrote: > > hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or > > openbsd that is available to purchase??? > > I've had good results with Dell laptops. > > Greg IBM Think pads seem to go ok -- 4.8, 4.9, 4.10 mjt -- Murray Taylor Special Projects Engineer --------------------------------- Bytecraft Systems & Entertainment P: +61 3 8710 2555 F: +61 3 8710 2599 D: +61 3 9238 4275 M: +61 417 319 256 E: murraytaylor@bytecraftsystems.com or visit us on the web http://www.bytecraftsystems.com http://www.bytecraftentertainment.com --------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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IBM Thinkpads are fine also. But try before u buy, whatever your decision. Take a live cd (http://www.freesbie.org/) with you and test it as much as you can. -- Regards, Karel Miklav From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 07:14:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5628D16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 07:14:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ds.netgate.net (ds.netgate.net [205.214.170.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 226D743D45 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 07:14:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ctodd@chrismiller.com) Received: (qmail 4912 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2004 07:14:13 -0000 Received: from vp4.netgate.net (ibrew@205.214.170.248) by ds.netgate.net with SMTP; 20 Dec 2004 07:14:13 -0000 Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:14:13 -0800 (PST) From: ctodd@chrismiller.com X-X-Sender: ibrew@vp4.netgate.net To: Kevin Kinsey In-Reply-To: <41C665EB.9000901@daleco.biz> Message-ID: References: <41C665EB.9000901@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: admin2@forkthepenguin.com cc: Daniel O'Connor cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 Release and Realtek X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 07:14:14 -0000 On Sun, 19 Dec 2004, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > >On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:44, ctodd@chrismiller.com wrote: > > > >>The problem was that none of the snd_* modules were built, and I did > >>rebuild the kernel. Once I built the modules, I was able to load the > >>drivers. I think you need to add "device sound" to get these modules to > >>build automgically. > > > >No, the modules are built regardless of the kernel options you use. > > Hmm; how did ctodd know they weren't? I have a dual personality :-) My original post to hackers from admin2 was caught by the moderation mechanism, ctodd is what I signed up with, I just don't like to post under my regular alias because I get spammed to death. Oh well, too late now. > I had one box that seemed weird in that it couldn't kldload anything; I > somehow discovered that it had left /boot/kernel/ empty, but put all the > *ko's in /boot/modules/ (or was it the other way 'round??) > > ... Anyway, once I copied everything over to the other dir, > no problems with "kldload" (or sound, or ....) > > Could this be what happened in this case? No, they (snd_*) just don't get built. There is no /boot/modules directory, at least in 5.3. I put off playing with 5.x until a reasonably mature release was available, maybe this directory did exist in an earlier 5.x release? Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 07:29:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF6616A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 07:29:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postfix4-2.free.fr (postfix4-2.free.fr [213.228.0.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C51343D3F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 07:29:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from c.ollier.ml@free.fr) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (jaures31-1-82-228-82-192.fbx.proxad.net [82.228.82.192]) by postfix4-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57934296347; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:29:43 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C67F8F.7050909@free.fr> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:30:23 +0100 From: christophe ollier User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: fr-fr, fr, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Huff , FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org References: <41C55BBF.9060808@free.fr> <20041219215825.GA99436@xor.obsecurity.org> <16838.1541.445869.73593@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20041219230025.GA15751@xor.obsecurity.org> <16838.3657.838541.435886@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <16838.3657.838541.435886@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Too many entries in UPDATING ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 07:29:44 -0000 Le 20/12/2004 00:27, Robert Huff a crit : > To the original poster: are you asking how to determine when > the last update of your system sources (via cvsup etc.) happened? Yes, that was my question. As my last update was an installation of 5.2.1-RELEASE, I found the date (2004-02-22) in the file pointed by Kris (/usr/share/misc/bsd-family-tree). Now I know that I have to follow every entry in /usr/src/UPDATING dated after this day. > Or how to determine when the last system (kernel+system utilities > upgrade happened? This information will also be useful one day, on the next system upgrade, when I will have to determine which entries in UPDATING are pertaining. "uname -a" seems to give the kernel compilation time. I don't know if there is a way to know the date of the last system upgrade; I sure can mark the day in my agenda. Thanks again. -- Christophe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 08:14:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2C316A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:14:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6EF43D4C for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:14:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.13.2/8.13.2/d) with ESMTP id iBK8EKOl020639 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 02:14:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 02:14:20 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200412200814.iBK8EK2j020638@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ifconfig for WLAN using WEP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:14:21 -0000 I've been asked in freebsd-newbies to move this to freebsd-questions, so I'll start with my original message content after this line. I'm trying to get my FreeBSD 5.2.1 system to connect to our household wireless net. The router and the only other computer in the household are using WEP, so my FreeBSD machine needs to do so as well. Unfortunately, whenever I add a WEP-related argument (e.g., wep, wepkey, wepmode) to the ifconfig command, as in ifconfig fwe0 wep I get ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument I'm currently running the GENERIC kernel, so perhaps I'm missing some config option. Although I've installed many other UNIX systems, this is my first attempt to get a FreeBSD system working, and thus I consider myself a newbie and am posting this problem to this list. If someone thinks I should have posted it to freebsd-questions, please let me know. I'm signed up there, too, so I can repost this over there if that would be more appropriate. If anyone can give me a clue how to get this thing working, I'd really appreciate it. The version of XFree86 that came on the CDROM for 5.2.1 is old and lacks the driver for the Mobility Radeon 9800 graphics card, so I am using the system with no graphics (and thus no windowing other than the old 4.3BSD window(1) command), which is a major drag. I need the net access to ftp the latest-and-greatest version of X11 or XFree86 to make the machine really usable. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 08:49:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472FC16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:49:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dave.horsfall.org (mrdavi2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.75.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EFDF43D4C for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:49:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by dave.horsfall.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id iBK8ncH24336 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:49:38 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:49:37 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1103525971.6683.36.camel@wstaylorm.dand06.au.bytecraft.au.com> Message-ID: References: <9a.1c2fb899.2ef7d0f7@aol.com> <20041220065519.GK84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> <1103525971.6683.36.camel@wstaylorm.dand06.au.bytecraft.au.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: installing bsd on a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:49:43 -0000 On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Murray Taylor wrote: > IBM Think pads seem to go ok -- 4.8, 4.9, 4.10 I've had better luck with 5.3 on my R31 - it recognises ACPI and the 32-bit CardBus slot, amongst others. Witl laptops you really want the latest, to support their weird hardware. -- Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 10:42:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C9816A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:42:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.uol.com.br (smtpout1.uol.com.br [200.221.4.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68BD543D1D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:42:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from giulianocm@uol.com.br) Received: from [201.1.132.37] (unknown [201.1.132.37]) by scorpion1.uol.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACC7DAC7 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:42:03 -0200 (BRST) Message-ID: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:41:57 -0200 From: Giuliano Cardozo Medalha Organization: WZTECH User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: giulianocm@uol.com.br List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:42:06 -0000 Hi, I have a machine with FreeBSD 5.3 - release -p2. I have installed bash from ports. How is possible to use bash in root account ? Thanks a lot Giuliano From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 10:53:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FAC316A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:53:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDDF43D1D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:53:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1CgLAC-0002WZ-Tm; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 05:53:17 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 04:54:09 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <9a.1c2fb899.2ef7d0f7@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <9a.1c2fb899.2ef7d0f7@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200412200454.09343.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc950ce24debb7a59320be2bea31784379350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: NathanKelly31@aol.com Subject: Re: installing bsd on a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:53:17 -0000 On Monday 20 December 2004 12:53 am, NathanKelly31@aol.com wrote: > hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or > openbsd that is available to purchase??? I was unable to get a Compaq's pccard working under FreeBSD 5.2.1 using either the new or old pccard systems. I had no problems on a Dell using FreeBSD 4.10 or 5.3. Best of luck, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 11:29:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3F216A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:29:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sferics.mongueurs.net (sferics.mongueurs.net [81.80.147.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423CC43D1F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:29:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@landgren.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (exo.bpinet.com [81.80.147.206]) by sferics.mongueurs.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6B5A934 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:29:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C6B7A1.1090708@landgren.net> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:29:37 +0100 From: David Landgren Organization: The Lusty Decadent Delights of Imperial Pompeii User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> In-Reply-To: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:29:40 -0000 Giuliano Cardozo Medalha wrote: > Hi, > > I have a machine with FreeBSD 5.3 - release -p2. > > I have installed bash from ports. > > How is possible to use bash in root account ? > > Thanks a lot Don't. Leave /bin/sh as your shell. If you want to run bash as root, log in as usual and then run 'exec bash' to replace your current shell with bash. This is a basic rule of hygiene when working as root. You'll appreciate working this way when you lose your /usr partition one day... David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 11:34:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E5716A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:34:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sferics.mongueurs.net (sferics.mongueurs.net [81.80.147.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D060A43D46 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:34:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@landgren.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (exo.bpinet.com [81.80.147.206]) by sferics.mongueurs.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E53A934 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:34:39 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C6B8CE.50006@landgren.net> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:34:38 +0100 From: David Landgren Organization: The Lusty Decadent Delights of Imperial Pompeii User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <001601c4e63c$f77fca70$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> In-Reply-To: <001601c4e63c$f77fca70$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Change "Bash-3.00#" Prompt??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:34:40 -0000 Adam wrote: > I installed bash shell and now my prompt says "bash-3.00#" > > How do I change the text before the #? I'd like it to say bash# instead of bash-3.00#. Edit .bashrc or .bash_profile. Run 'man bash' and look at the FILES section. David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 11:38:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FBE16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:38:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sferics.mongueurs.net (sferics.mongueurs.net [81.80.147.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AEEC43D55 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:38:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@landgren.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (exo.bpinet.com [81.80.147.206]) by sferics.mongueurs.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF0CA934 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:38:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C6B9A9.6030706@landgren.net> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:38:17 +0100 From: David Landgren Organization: The Lusty Decadent Delights of Imperial Pompeii User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <9a.1c2fb899.2ef7d0f7@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <9a.1c2fb899.2ef7d0f7@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: installing bsd on a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:38:19 -0000 NathanKelly31@aol.com wrote: > hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or openbsd that > is available to purchase??? Available to purchase, I dunno. With older HP laptops I had no success with 5.2, but 4.10 was fine. I haven't tried 5.3 yet. When I say "no success", I meant that the laptop refused to complete the boot of an installation CD. If you can get to a shop, take an install CD along with you. If you can boot up and get as far as the main menu, it'll probably be just fine. David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 12:07:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6288016A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:07:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (mail-in-01.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2251043D48 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:07:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gemei2@web.de) Received: from dialup.user (dsl-213-023-019-042.arcor-ip.net [213.23.19.42]) by mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6E9117093 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:07:17 +0100 (CET) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 100) id AC09611E7E; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:07:16 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:07:16 +0100 From: Gerhard Meier To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041220120620.GA68520@duplo.dahoam> Mail-Followup-To: Gerhard Meier , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:07:19 -0000 On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 08:41:57AM -0200, Giuliano Cardozo Medalha wrote: > I have a machine with FreeBSD 5.3 - release -p2. > > I have installed bash from ports. > > How is possible to use bash in root account ? Do not change the shell of the root account. If you have /usr or /usr/local on a separate partition, and you cannot mount for some reason, you wont be able to fix that, without booting from another device. But you can change the shell of the toor user, who has also a uid of 0. /GM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 12:13:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CF516A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:13:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F253A43D31 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:13:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17AE7C45CF4 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 07:13:23 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: dVkj8GRj/JBwFJXq7viUkw 1103544800 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-31-135.access.uk.tiscali.com [80.41.31.135]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ADE056F785 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 07:13:19 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:12:49 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20041218205300.GA38465@keyslapper.org> In-Reply-To: <20041218205300.GA38465@keyslapper.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412201212.50840.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Firefox headaches X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:13:24 -0000 On Saturday 18 December 2004 20:53, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > Something's not right with firefox. > > Now that I've got the printing problems more or less solved, it > crashes almost every time I hit a page with flash. > > I've got the latest (from ports updated yesterday) native, and > flashplugin-firefox port. Certain websites crash or lock it up at > seemingly random points. > > By crash, I mean I get a firefox-bin.core file in my home directory. > By lock up, I mean it simply stops responding - indefinitely. Once I > just quit for the night and next morning all I had was the window > outline. > > Case in point: http://www.big-boys.com/ This one ALWAYS takes it out. > > Sometimes when loading the main page, sometimes when clicking out to > another bookmark (different domain altogether) and pretty much anytime > an onsite link is clicked. > > I have rebuilt and reinstalled the flash plugin since portupgrading > firefox. I also deinstalled and reinstalled both additions - Noia > theme and TabBrowser extension - latest of both. > Firstly, are you using the old method of using flashpluginwrapper or the newer linuxpluginwrapper. Secondly, are you using flash7, which isn't yet supported on Firefox. I'm using the default Flash 6 and linuxpluginwrapper, and have seen no problems with mozilla or firefox. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 12:24:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AF9816A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:24:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grover.logicsquad.net (ppp52-7.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.52.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A917943D5F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:24:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paulh@logicsquad.net) Received: (qmail 64108 invoked by uid 1000); 20 Dec 2004 12:24:43 -0000 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:54:42 +1030 From: "Paul A. Hoadley" To: Chuck Swiger Message-ID: <20041220122442.GA16576@grover.logicsquad.net> References: <20041216010258.GC93695@grover.logicsquad.net> <20041218224134.GA50538@grover.logicsquad.net> <41C5EB56.1000008@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C5EB56.1000008@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail: host name lookup failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:24:46 -0000 --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Chuck, On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 03:57:58PM -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote: > That hostname gets an NXDOMAIN failure from here: Sorry, I should have been more explicit in the original: the nameserver in question is serving a private LAN in the 192.168 space. I have actually solved the problem. I intend to post a summary for the archive when I return to the site later in the week, at which time I'll be able to identify the OS/nameserver combination at fault. Here's a teaser, though: it's a Microsoft product (I just don't know which), and it's returing SERVFAIL status for a AAAA record query. Curiously, sendmail's WorkAroundBrokenAAAA option did not help, and I don't know why. Daryl Tester suggested using a mailertable entry, and this worked. --=20 Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBxsSK730Z/jysbzIRAnwBAJ0ZPVEJik1rNXEBbFplwxNzHrhPPQCfcI9M 3n+qNtJFU4G89wx37+kjH9w= =qbIQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 12:27:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC5816A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:27:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vs3.bgnett.no (vs3.bgnett.no [194.54.96.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A07743D39 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:27:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) Received: from amidala.datadok.no.bgnett.no (amidala.datadok.no [194.54.103.98]) by vs3.bgnett.no (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBKCRK5n036942 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:27:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) Sender: peter@amidala.datadok.no To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <9a.1c2fb899.2ef7d0f7@aol.com> From: peter@bgnett.no (Peter N. M. Hansteen) Date: 20 Dec 2004 13:27:11 +0000 In-Reply-To: <9a.1c2fb899.2ef7d0f7@aol.com> Message-ID: <86r7llksls.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-bgnett.no-virusscanner: Found to be clean X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installing bsd on a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:27:31 -0000 NathanKelly31@aol.com writes: > hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or openbsd that > is available to purchase??? I'm typing this on a Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo D 1840W running FreeBSD 5.3. Everything 'Just Worked', the only part of the X config I needed to do manually was the one-line ZAxisMapping magic to make the touchpad's scroll strip (similar to mouse wheel) work. Then again that was cut&pasteable from somewhere else. Everything else pretty much just automagically worked. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ "First, we kill all the spammers" The Usenet Bard, "Twice-forwarded tales" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 12:36:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567E316A4CF for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:36:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2083F43D4C for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:36:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64D7C45C92 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 07:36:03 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: nSRjhggZdNafb2Q0Bsapzw 1103546162 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-31-135.access.uk.tiscali.com [80.41.31.135]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037B856F785 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 07:36:02 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:35:48 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412201235.49927.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: migrating from thunderbird to mutt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:36:29 -0000 On Sunday 19 December 2004 03:48, Nikolas Britton wrote: > Can mutt handle um like 5+ email address and have them all separated and > be able to send from diffrent email accounts? > > If I remember right mutt is just a mail reader, so how do I get mail to > and sent from mutt? > > How does it handle hyperlinks, if I select something will it open up in > firefox or whatever? > > Message filtering, for example I have all the different freebsd mailing > lists automatically put into different folders, and junk mail sorting? > > Speell check? You might be better-off with Pine. It's "roles" give it the best multiple address support I've seen on any client. It supports smtp as well as local MTAs and it has built-in spell-checking, message filtering etc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 03:36:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7395D16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:36:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web54403.mail.yahoo.com (web54403.mail.yahoo.com [68.142.225.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0413A43D2F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:36:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vctw@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 12811 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Dec 2004 03:36:53 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=W+IRnNkc9aFMl7nahYTlRGSHq05YfkaMEJxpKPFYgMEIbbk5S46QjBT9HJ/3Yp7i2e4MVqqIXxBVTai3IJFeMm3KCAMNoiZNtm6YjCkGbNE2W8ljyyNKQ+pV9ei3KV+xKGDVbAW1IMUFs0R3A9OidWxjSqDweXbntE+VH/uo52Y= ; Message-ID: <20041220033653.12809.qmail@web54403.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [61.219.198.146] by web54403.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:36:53 CST Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:36:53 +0800 (CST) From: Vincent Chen To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:04:47 +0000 Subject: problem with intel pro/100 S 82550 adapter on freebsd 4.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 03:36:54 -0000 Hi, all I tried to install a intel pro/100 S desktop adapter w/ 82550 chip on my freebsd 4.7 release. Since my custom kernel has no fxp driver compiled. I edit /boot/loader.conf and add a line: if_fxp_load="YES" After reboot, freebsd can identify this adapter as fxp0. But system reboot while trying to ifconfig it. Does 4.7 release support this adapter? if so, how can I get it work correctly? Thanks, Vincent Chen ----------------------------------------------------------------- Yahoo!_yF ̷syFñWɡAHWӤHmI http://tw.avatar.yahoo.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 13:21:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF02216A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:21:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from natnoddy.rzone.de (natnoddy.rzone.de [81.169.145.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4254743D1D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:21:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karsten_fuhrmann@cartoon-film.de) Received: from [192.168.0.72] (pD9E76A4F.dip.t-dialin.net [217.231.106.79]) by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBKDLGVF021201 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:21:17 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <08037F38-528A-11D9-A7D1-000A95DC1E96@cartoon-film.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Karsten Fuhrmann Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:21:17 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: linking problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:21:20 -0000 Hello, i want to compile a c program with both static and dynamic linking in the same program, e.g. i want to link against LIB_A static but against LIB_B shared. I dicovered the static and dy options in ld but it seems to me that it is only possible to link at whole static or dynamic, but not mixed. Greetings, Karsten Fuhrmann Karsten Fuhrmann System Administration Tel. +49 30 698084-109 Fax. +49 30 698084-29 email: karsten_fuhrmann@cartoon-film.de Cartoon-Film Thilo Graf Rothkirch Bergmannstr. 68 D-10961 Berlin Germany From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 13:32:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1D316A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:32:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 9.hellooperator.net (cpc3-cdif2-3-0-cust202.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.32.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA1F43D1F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:32:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputin@hellooperator.net) Received: from rasputin by 9.hellooperator.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1CgNef-0004On-4t for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:32:53 +0000 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:32:53 +0000 From: Dick Davies To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20041220133252.GB7774@lb.tenfour> References: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> <20041220120620.GA68520@duplo.dahoam> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041220120620.GA68520@duplo.dahoam> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: Dick Davies Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dick Davies List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:32:54 -0000 * Gerhard Meier [1207 12:07]: > On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 08:41:57AM -0200, Giuliano Cardozo Medalha wrote: > > I have a machine with FreeBSD 5.3 - release -p2. > > > > I have installed bash from ports. > > > > How is possible to use bash in root account ? > > Do not change the shell of the root account. If you have /usr or > /usr/local on a separate partition, and you cannot mount for some > reason, you wont be able to fix that, without booting from > another device. No, but you'll still be able to use /bin/sh when going single user, so what's the big deal? I really don't get what the problem is with this 'sh is on the root' argument. Using bash is a lot more productive for many people, so why not let them use it? If you're really terrified of not knowing how to use sh, then stick a static bash in /bin. To the original poster: just be root and run 'chsh'. -- 'I should have been a plumber.' -- Albert Einstein Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 13:49:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0AE016A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:49:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out010.verizon.net (out010pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DC543D48 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:49:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.252.53]) by out010.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041220134904.WRKH24714.out010.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 07:49:04 -0600 Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2341711449; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:48:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:48:48 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041220134847.GA88455@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out010.verizon.net from [68.163.252.53] at Mon, 20 Dec 2004 07:49:04 -0600 Subject: Re: "ipfw count" equivalent for pf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:49:06 -0000 Ah. Good to know. I think you need ALTQ support built into the kernel to get it though. Lou On 12/19/04 04:38 PM, patrick sat at the `puter and typed: > I didn't receive any advice relevant to solving my problem, but I did > manage to figure it out in the end. I thought I'd share my solution in > case anyone else wants to do the same thing: > > My /etc/pf.conf has the following lines: > > ext_if="rl0" > external_addr="x.x.x.x" > > pass in on $ext_if from any to $external_addr label "$dstaddr in" > pass out on $ext_if from $external_addr to any label "$srcaddr out" > > Activate the rules with "pfctl -f /etc/pf.conf", and then you can > display the counters by doing a "pfctl -sl" which outputs something > like: > > x.x.x.x in 14363 7448 734450 > x.x.x.x out 13810 6362 683319 > > To zero the counters, I've just been calling "pfctl -f /etc/pf.conf" > again, though there may be a more "proper" way. > > Patrick > > > On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 11:57:29 -0800, patrick wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > Now that FreeBSD 5.x has pf from OpenBSD, I'm wondering if some of the > > pf experts can help me with porting a simple ipfw configuration from > > FreeBSD 4.x to pf in FreeBSD 5.x. > > > > On our 4.x servers, we have several rules like: > > > > ipfw add count ip from any to x.x.x.x > > ipfw add count ip from x.x.x.x to any > > > > ... to keep track of how much traffic is going through a particular IP > > address. Every night, I capture the data and zero the counters. > > > > Using pf, I'm having a difficult time how to establish a similar > > ruleset so that I can gather the same sort of data. Someone on the > > openbsd-misc list told me to "add labels to those rules you want to > > account traffic on and use `pdfctl -sl` to read their counters." The > > problem is that I'm not sure how to describe the rules using pf. I > > suppose the rules should just pass all traffic to and from my external > > interface, but from all the pf documentation I've read, I can't find > > an example that seems to do this for me. > > > > Can any experts lend a hand here? It seems like this should be > > dead-easy to do, but like many things from the OpenBSD world, it does > > not seem to straight-forward to me. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Patrick > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ԿԬ First study the enemy. Seek weakness. -- Romulan Commander, "Balance of Terror", stardate 1709.2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 14:00:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0CC16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:00:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.prodigy.net.mx (nlpproxy03.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.52.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A4D43D48 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:00:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwinculp@prodigy.net.mx) Received: from prodigy.net.mx (du-148-235-52-32.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.52.32]) by smtp.prodigy.net.mx (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I90009QGXJQDQ@smtp.prodigy.net.mx>; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 07:59:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from [148.235.52.104] (Forwarded-For: [201.137.148.164]) by nlpmail02.prodigy.net.mx (mshttpd); Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:02:28 -0600 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:02:28 -0600 From: edwinculp To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <2845d2d80a.2d80a2845d@prodigy.net.mx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: es Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: es Priority: non-urgent X-Priority: 5 (Lowest) Subject: Simple, graphic, desktop calculator X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:00:27 -0000 IIRC, kde had a simple desktop calculator. Either it has been removed or I can't find it. I have also checked ports and haven't found anything similar except add. It is for may wife so after using the kde one for years she doesn't like add at all and even less bc, dc, etc. Could anyone suggest one or correct me if it is still in kde and I just haven't found it. Thanks, ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 14:06:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D468216A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:06:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cirrus.purplecloud.com (cirrus.purplecloud.com [217.158.94.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9033443D2F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:06:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alasdair@lumsden.biz) Received: (qmail 49136 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2004 14:06:21 -0000 Received: from host-83-146-2-180.bulldogdsl.com (HELO ninja) (83.146.2.180) by smtp.purplecloud.net with SMTP; 20 Dec 2004 14:06:20 -0000 From: Alasdair Lumsden To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <2845d2d80a.2d80a2845d@prodigy.net.mx> References: <2845d2d80a.2d80a2845d@prodigy.net.mx> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1103551576.23141.42.camel@ninja> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5-4mdk Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:06:16 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Simple, graphic, desktop calculator X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:06:22 -0000 I don't have a FreeBSD desktop machine to hand, but on Mandrake 10.0 the KDE calculator is installed as "kcalc", part of the kdeutils-kcalc package: [alasdair@ninja alasdair]$ rpm -qf /usr/bin/kcalc kdeutils-kcalc-3.2-17mdk HTH On Mon, 2004-12-20 at 14:02, edwinculp wrote: > IIRC, kde had a simple desktop calculator. Either it has been removed or I can't find it. I have > also checked ports and haven't found anything similar except add. It is for may wife so after > using the kde one for years she doesn't like add at all and even less bc, dc, etc. > > Could anyone suggest one or correct me if it is still in kde and I just haven't found it. > > Thanks, > > ed > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 14:06:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16AF316A4D3 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:06:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from alexandr.fdns.net (212-104-97-169.cable.evrocom.net [212.104.97.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23B043D46 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:06:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin@alexandr.fdns.net) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=alexandr.fdns.net) by alexandr.fdns.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CgQ6z-000Pay-Uv; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:10:18 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by alexandr.fdns.net (8.13.1/8.12.10/Submit) id iBKGA2YC098391; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:10:02 GMT (envelope-from admin) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:10:01 +0000 From: Alexandr To: Adam Message-ID: <20041220161001.GD97744@alexandr.fdns.net> References: <001601c4e63c$f77fca70$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001601c4e63c$f77fca70$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Change "Bash-3.00#" Prompt??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:06:29 -0000 On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 08:38:09PM -0600, Adam wrote: > I installed bash shell and now my prompt says "bash-3.00#" > > How do I change the text before the #? I'd like it to say bash# instead of bash-3.00#. Adam, you need to change your .profile file. Variable PS1 has beatifull discribe in man bash For example I have: PS1="\u - \A # " ; export PS1 and my promti is admin - 16:08 # (with space on the end) for bash# PS1="bash#" ; export PS1 > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 14:06:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5299616A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:06:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out011.verizon.net (out011pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F5043D2D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:06:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.252.53]) by out011.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041220140647.VCBC4717.out011.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:06:47 -0600 Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A69511170F; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:06:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:06:30 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20041220140630.GC88455@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20041218205300.GA38465@keyslapper.org> <200412201212.50840.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200412201212.50840.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out011.verizon.net from [68.163.252.53] at Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:06:46 -0600 Subject: Re: Firefox headaches X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:06:48 -0000 On 12/20/04 12:12 PM, RW sat at the `puter and typed: > On Saturday 18 December 2004 20:53, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > > Something's not right with firefox. > > > > Now that I've got the printing problems more or less solved, it > > crashes almost every time I hit a page with flash. > > > > I've got the latest (from ports updated yesterday) native, and > > flashplugin-firefox port. Certain websites crash or lock it up at > > seemingly random points. > > > > By crash, I mean I get a firefox-bin.core file in my home directory. > > By lock up, I mean it simply stops responding - indefinitely. Once I > > just quit for the night and next morning all I had was the window > > outline. > > > > Case in point: http://www.big-boys.com/ This one ALWAYS takes it out. > > > > Sometimes when loading the main page, sometimes when clicking out to > > another bookmark (different domain altogether) and pretty much anytime > > an onsite link is clicked. > > > > I have rebuilt and reinstalled the flash plugin since portupgrading > > firefox. I also deinstalled and reinstalled both additions - Noia > > theme and TabBrowser extension - latest of both. > > > > Firstly, are you using the old method of using flashpluginwrapper or the newer > linuxpluginwrapper. > > Secondly, are you using flash7, which isn't yet supported on Firefox. > > I'm using the default Flash 6 and linuxpluginwrapper, and have seen no > problems with mozilla or firefox. Well, that certainly improves things. Firefox doesn't crash or lock up anymore, but of course, most flash on the web these days is flash 7, so nothing plays. Definitely an improvement. Thanks. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ԿԬ Finagle's Third Law: In any collection of data, the figure most obviously correct, beyond all need of checking, is the mistake From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 14:08:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B9116A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:08:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129B543D5A for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:08:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so108028wri for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:08:54 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=f+VoSStJCbvDfy/XQvzsL2FP1kw0NxzAl2LMmyi1B0bmVTyJsz7Kac5R5qKo9wETW/az0wXgzPyP7seSKrnvUIHRKHYlnuOpL5qt5ajfCnJr14nTEs0BVvQMDbmg+z6eKcOk7AteL5iZInxdIC3YbrWfzrrzuIEvkKZxZsynSeo= Received: by 10.54.54.80 with SMTP id c80mr311601wra; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:08:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.34 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:08:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:08:54 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: <41C4F0CC.30700@nbritton.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <003b01c4e489$6497d0e0$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> <41C36F45.6060305@nbritton.org> <200412171746.07980.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <41C4F0CC.30700@nbritton.org> cc: Joshua Tinnin cc: Kevin Smith cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Tom Connolly Subject: Re: (cvsup newbie questions) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:08:55 -0000 On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:09:00 -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote: > Joshua Tinnin wrote: > > > > > > >Well, if you build a port with make options once, then it will remember > >your make options. Otherwise, you can enter make arguments > >in /etc/pkgtools.conf, although this only helps if you know what > >arguments the ports you're installing might need. > > > > > What do you mean it "remembers" what make options I used... if I do a > portupgrade it without setting MAKE_ARGS in pkgtools.conf it will > remember my make options from the last time I built it? Also how to I > make it "unremember" make options I don't want anymore? I don't know about that. If I want portupgrade to use custom make flags, I specify them in /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf. To remove options from a previous build, you can do: # rm /var/db/ports//options > Also, semi related, whats this "Generating INDEX-5 - please wait.." > thing and why does it take an hour for it to generate? The machine is building the ports collection INDEX-5 file from the make describe output of all of the ports. You can simplify this process by doing 'make fetchindex' after you cvsup each time. -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 14:13:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6734816A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:13:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from net.netophilia.net (ns.netophilia.net [66.96.216.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F303343D4C for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:13:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@netophilia.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.netophilia.net [127.0.0.1]) by net.netophilia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA60216F2B; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:13:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from net.netophilia.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (net.netophilia.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23405-02; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:13:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by net.netophilia.net (Postfix, from userid 1005) id 8E14F16B29; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:13:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:13:26 -0500 From: Dan Kilbourne To: M?rio Gamito Message-ID: <20041220141326.GA22922@netophilia.net> References: <41C34E44.1080300@netual.pt> <20041217214223.GB7500@netophilia.net> <41C3654C.9060308@netual.pt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C3654C.9060308@netual.pt> Organization: netophilia.net Visit: http://netophilia.net User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at netophilia.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No pear X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:13:34 -0000 M?rio Gamito extolled: > Hi Dan, > > I'm not that stupid, thank you. Did I say you were stupid? You asked for help, and I offered it. The polite thing to do, if you have already attempted the help I offered, would be to simply say: "Thank you Dan, but I have already tried to do what you said, and for some reason decided not to include that fact in my original request for help. Thank you for taking time out of your day to attempt to help me." > > I'm just a Linux system's administrator for about 7/8 years, trying to > switch to FreeBSD, where everything is so equal, yet so different. Congrats - it takes some time, but is well worth moving away from Linux IMHO. > > I did an "find /usr/ports -name '*pear*' -print" and found nothing. Found nothing? Or nothing useful? I find 105 things doing that exact same command: drk:drk:[9:06am]:~> find /usr/ports -name '*pear*' -print | wc -l 105 drk:drk:[9:06am]:~> > > Thanks for the tip of searching. No problem. P.S. Please do not top quote. It makes the flow of conversation harder to follow. Check http://www.lemis.com/email/email-tidiness.html -- ___ Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 14:16:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B134516A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:16:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753D143D49 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:16:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1120C45F28 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:16:17 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: pYyNTs3qtLg2/Cmb8T5EWA 1103552176 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-31-135.access.uk.tiscali.com [80.41.31.135]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35BD25535 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:16:16 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:16:06 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20041218205300.GA38465@keyslapper.org> <200412201212.50840.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> In-Reply-To: <200412201212.50840.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412201416.07982.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Firefox headaches X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:16:26 -0000 On Monday 20 December 2004 12:12, RW wrote: > > I've got the latest (from ports updated yesterday) native, and > > flashplugin-firefox port. Certain websites crash or lock it up at > > seemingly random points. >... > > Firstly, are you using the old method of using flashpluginwrapper or the > newer linuxpluginwrapper. > > Secondly, are you using flash7, which isn't yet supported on Firefox. > > I'm using the default Flash 6 and linuxpluginwrapper, and have seen no > problems with mozilla or firefox. Ah sorry, flashplugin-firefox is the GPLed flash clone. This didn't work at all for me when I tried it earlier in the year, typically cpu usage would go up to 100%, and most of the time it would crash. The genuine Macromedia version for Linux is reliable, but it relies on your installing linux emulation, and being comfortable with installing a third-party binary. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 14:20:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F388216A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:20:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from net.netophilia.net (ns.netophilia.net [66.96.216.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B941D43D62 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:20:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@netophilia.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.netophilia.net [127.0.0.1]) by net.netophilia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3ECC16F2B; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:20:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from net.netophilia.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (net.netophilia.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23363-08; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:20:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by net.netophilia.net (Postfix, from userid 1005) id 8D8E216B29; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:20:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:20:11 -0500 From: Dan Kilbourne To: NathanKelly31@aol.com Message-ID: <20041220142011.GC22922@netophilia.net> References: <9a.1c2fb899.2ef7d0f7@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9a.1c2fb899.2ef7d0f7@aol.com> Organization: netophilia.net Visit: http://netophilia.net User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at netophilia.net cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: installing bsd on a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:20:18 -0000 NathanKelly31@aol.com extolled: > hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or openbsd that > is available to purchase??? I can tell you that my Dell C640 worked right out of the box. Xorg -configure got all my X stuff correct (I just needed to set default color depth to my personal preference). Even my wireless NIC works immediately with a "dhclient wi0." The only option I needed to add to the kernel to get everything working was "device sound" -- ___ Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 14:21:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E3616A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:21:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC54843D2F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:21:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from bsdbox.farid-hajji.net (bsdbox [192.168.254.3]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC744B6BA; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:20:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:21:10 +0100 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: Matthias Buelow Message-ID: <20041220142110.GA845@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> References: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> <41C62755.2030705@mukappabeta.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C62755.2030705@mukappabeta.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: Nikolas Britton cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: migrating from thunderbird to mutt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:21:09 -0000 On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 02:13:57AM +0100, Matthias Buelow wrote: > Nikolas Britton wrote: > >Can mutt handle um like 5+ email address and have them all separated and > >be able to send from diffrent email accounts? > > No. > > >If I remember right mutt is just a mail reader, so how do I get mail to > >and sent from mutt? > > By setting up your MTA (sendmail, postfix, qmail). Alternatively, you > can use mutt with pop3 or imap4 but its support for these protocols is > primitive at best. And then you'd still have to configure sendmail for > outgoing mail. You can also install /usr/ports/mail/esmtp and use this to send mails via an smtp server of your choice. Setting this up with mutt is pretty easy: 1. in your ~/.muttrc, add: set sendmail="/usr/local/bin/esmtp" set envelope_from="yes" Now mutt will use esmtp (instead of sendmail) to deliver outgoing mails. 2. in your ~/.esmtprc configure your identities: identity = someone@somewhere.com hostname = "stmp.somewhere.com:25" username = "" password = "" identity = someoneelse@example.com hostname = "1.2.3.4:25" username = "secret@example.com" password = "somepassword" identiy = internal@example.org hostname = "127.0.0.1:25" username = "" password = "" esmtp will contact the appropriate SMTP server on your behalf and will use the correct credentials to connect (if required). 3. Now fire up mutt, and compose an E-mail with 'm'. After you've finished typing your mail, change the sending address (From header) with 'ESC f' to match one of your identities. For example, using someoneelse@example.com will direct esmtp to send mail via the server 1.2.3.4 using the specified credentials. Then send the message with 'y' 4. The other way around is also possible. You can access multiple IMAP mailboxes from within mutt like this: type 'c' to change (open) to a new mailbox. Enter the IMAP URL of your mailbox like this: imap://someone@somewhere.com@imapserver.somewhere.com/ (defaults to INBOX) imap://someoneelse@example.com@imap.example.com/INBOX.Spambox Cheers, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 14:21:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8A116A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:21:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out014.verizon.net (out014pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9C543D4C for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:21:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.252.53]) by out014.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041220142126.BCY28388.out014.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:21:26 -0600 Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 62CF111579; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:21:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:21:08 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041220142108.GE88455@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041218205300.GA38465@keyslapper.org> <200412201212.50840.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <200412201416.07982.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200412201416.07982.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out014.verizon.net from [68.163.252.53] at Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:21:24 -0600 Subject: Re: Firefox headaches X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:21:28 -0000 On 12/20/04 02:16 PM, RW sat at the `puter and typed: > On Monday 20 December 2004 12:12, RW wrote: > > > Ah sorry, flashplugin-firefox is the GPLed flash clone. This didn't work at > all for me when I tried it earlier in the year, typically cpu usage would go > up to 100%, and most of the time it would crash. Yeah, I wasn't seeing the CPU spike, more like a sudden halt. Not even a screeching halt, more like it had just hit an immovable object. > The genuine Macromedia version for Linux is reliable, but it relies on your > installing linux emulation, and being comfortable with installing a > third-party binary. Ah, well, who's going to do flash better than Macromedia? :) I noticed that the flashpluginwrapper installed linux-flashplugin6 as a dependency. What was your experience with 7? Thanks. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ԿԬ A black cat crossing your path signifies that the animal is going somewhere. -- Groucho Marx From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 14:28:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9662B16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:28:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACE043D3F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:28:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E06C460C1 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:28:18 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: I34Yqa1l86XbcivE2Ek1Zw 1103552897 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-31-135.access.uk.tiscali.com [80.41.31.135]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC28D25599 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:28:17 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:28:09 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20041218205300.GA38465@keyslapper.org> <200412201212.50840.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <20041220140630.GC88455@keyslapper.org> In-Reply-To: <20041220140630.GC88455@keyslapper.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412201428.09911.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Firefox headaches X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:28:19 -0000 On Monday 20 December 2004 14:06, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > On 12/20/04 12:12 PM, RW sat at the `puter and typed: > > On Saturday 18 December 2004 20:53, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > Firefox doesn't crash or lock up anymore, but of course, most flash on > the web these days is flash 7, so nothing plays. Definitely an > improvement. Flash 7 is supported with Mozilla. I prefer Mozilla over Firefox, but I haven't bothered to upgrade to 7. I've never actually seen anything that doesn't work on flash 6. I probably just don't get around enough. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 14:31:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F2D16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:31:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out002.verizon.net (out002pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E5143D5F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:31:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.252.53]) by out002.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041220143146.ZLRP12052.out002.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:31:46 -0600 Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3E3AC11579; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:31:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:31:30 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20041220143130.GF88455@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions References: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> <41C62755.2030705@mukappabeta.de> <20041220142110.GA845@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20041220142110.GA845@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out002.verizon.net from [68.163.252.53] at Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:31:46 -0600 Subject: Re: migrating from thunderbird to mutt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:31:48 -0000 On 12/20/04 03:21 PM, cpghost@cordula.ws sat at the `puter and typed: > On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 02:13:57AM +0100, Matthias Buelow wrote: > > Nikolas Britton wrote: > > >Can mutt handle um like 5+ email address and have them all separated and > > >be able to send from diffrent email accounts? > > > > No. > > > > >If I remember right mutt is just a mail reader, so how do I get mail to > > >and sent from mutt? > > > > By setting up your MTA (sendmail, postfix, qmail). Alternatively, you > > can use mutt with pop3 or imap4 but its support for these protocols is > > primitive at best. And then you'd still have to configure sendmail for > > outgoing mail. > > You can also install /usr/ports/mail/esmtp and use this to send > mails via an smtp server of your choice. > > Setting this up with mutt is pretty easy: > > 1. in your ~/.muttrc, add: > > set sendmail="/usr/local/bin/esmtp" > set envelope_from="yes" > > Now mutt will use esmtp (instead of sendmail) to deliver outgoing mails. > > 2. in your ~/.esmtprc configure your identities: > > identity = someone@somewhere.com > hostname = "stmp.somewhere.com:25" > username = "" > password = "" > > identity = someoneelse@example.com > hostname = "1.2.3.4:25" > username = "secret@example.com" > password = "somepassword" > > identiy = internal@example.org > hostname = "127.0.0.1:25" > username = "" > password = "" > > esmtp will contact the appropriate SMTP server on your behalf > and will use the correct credentials to connect (if required). > > 3. Now fire up mutt, and compose an E-mail with 'm'. > After you've finished typing your mail, change the sending > address (From header) with 'ESC f' to match one of your > identities. For example, using someoneelse@example.com > will direct esmtp to send mail via the server 1.2.3.4 using > the specified credentials. Then send the message with 'y' ssmtp is also very good if you're not receiving email. All it does is get your mail out to the SMTP server of your choice. I use it at work to great satisfaction. Otherwise, any SMTP server/client app (sendmail, postfix, esmtp, etc.) is pretty easy to set up. BTW Nikolas, sorry for responding to you directly, I meant to go back to the list. As mentioned, I had just gotten back from a couple cold ones, and must have hit the wrong key. In hindsight, I was probably a little more enthusiastic that I needed to be :) And to the poster that suggested Pine would be better for multiple email addresses, I don't know about that. My mutt config switches personality depending on the imap folder I'm in. I even have additional headers for some that aren't added for others. When I'm in my freebsd folder, I'm freebsd-at-keyslapper.org; when I'm in my ssl folder, I'm ssl-at-keyslapper.org, and in my work folder (pulled down via fetchmail) I'm leblanc-at-.com. I have at least 7 right now, and have had as many as 10 at one time. Limited only by the number of aliases you want to manage. I often roll them in and out of service as my needs dictate, and the mutt configured identity is always there. I've even heard of people using a different gpg signature key for each 'identity'. Like I said, the mutt mailing list is very helpful. HTH Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ԿԬ Tact, n.: The unsaid part of what you're thinking. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 14:42:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658E616A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:42:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F381043D45 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:42:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1CgOkU-0001UJ-DA; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:42:58 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:43:50 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <9a.1c2fb899.2ef7d0f7@aol.com> <200412200454.09343.algould@datawok.com> In-Reply-To: <200412200454.09343.algould@datawok.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200412200843.51057.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc662709c7ad55aa80856def18b71777d3350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: NathanKelly31@aol.com Subject: Re: installing bsd on a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:42:59 -0000 On Monday 20 December 2004 04:54 am, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > On Monday 20 December 2004 12:53 am, NathanKelly31@aol.com wrote: > > hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or > > openbsd that is available to purchase??? I just read about the website below at linuxtoday.com. The laptops are sold with Linspire by default (no Windows tax); but FreeBSD is one of the (ahem) "other linux distros" available. http://www.sub300.com/ I know nothing else about them; so I can neither recommend nor discourage doing business with them. Best of luck, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 14:46:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6139516A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:46:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1216B43D49 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:46:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@fusion.vilot.net) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (localhost.ev1servers.net [127.0.0.1]) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBKEhGUO018127; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:43:16 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@fusion.vilot.net) Received: (from tom@localhost) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) id iBKEhGaD018126; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:43:16 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:43:16 -0600 From: Tom Vilot To: Andy Clements Message-ID: <20041220144316.GA18006@vilot.com> References: <41BF2F0A.6020203@candhsoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41BF2F0A.6020203@candhsoftware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cron not running job X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:46:00 -0000 > I'm having problems getting my freshly update FreeBSD 5.3 system to run > my cron jobs. Logged in as root, I enter the job in root's crontab with > the following command > > crontab -e > > I enter the job in the following format: > > 05 10 * * * /root/cronjobs/cvs-sup.sh > > The script has the following permissions: > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 255 Dec 13 10:39 cvs-sup.sh > > I can run the script as root with no errors. I look in the > /var/log/cron log and I don't see any attempt by cron to run the job. > There is no error either. There are entries for the edit of the > crontab: This drove me batty for a while. You should see some emails to root regarding this. Typically, it's a path issue. In your cvs-sup.sh use the full path to the binaries you are trying to execute. Like this: /usr/local/bin/cvsup /root/ports-supfile > /tmp/ports-log 2>&1 /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -Uu Also, you can use /etc/periodic/daily rather than using cron directly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 14:48:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30EC16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:48:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E9F43D2D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:48:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@fusion.vilot.net) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (localhost.ev1servers.net [127.0.0.1]) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBKEk1Y3018311; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:46:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@fusion.vilot.net) Received: (from tom@localhost) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) id iBKEk15U018310; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:46:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:46:01 -0600 From: Tom Vilot To: Dan Kilbourne Message-ID: <20041220144601.GB18006@vilot.com> References: <9a.1c2fb899.2ef7d0f7@aol.com> <20041220142011.GC22922@netophilia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041220142011.GC22922@netophilia.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: NathanKelly31@aol.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installing bsd on a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:48:38 -0000 > NathanKelly31@aol.com extolled: > > hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or openbsd that > > is available to purchase??? I have FreeBSD 5.3 running beautifully on a Dell Inspiron 8200. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 14:50:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB70916A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:50:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (ei.xs4all.nl [213.84.67.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4F143D3F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:50:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBKEqROW025572; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:52:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBKEqRbL025571; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:52:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:52:27 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: Dick Davies Message-ID: <20041220145227.GA24495@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Dick Davies , FreeBSD Questions References: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> <20041220120620.GA68520@duplo.dahoam> <20041220133252.GB7774@lb.tenfour> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041220133252.GB7774@lb.tenfour> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=failed version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on ei.bzerk.org cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:50:05 -0000 On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 01:32:53PM +0000, Dick Davies typed: > * Gerhard Meier [1207 12:07]: > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 08:41:57AM -0200, Giuliano Cardozo Medalha wrote: > > > I have a machine with FreeBSD 5.3 - release -p2. > > > > > > I have installed bash from ports. > > > > > > How is possible to use bash in root account ? > > > > Do not change the shell of the root account. If you have /usr or > > /usr/local on a separate partition, and you cannot mount for some > > reason, you wont be able to fix that, without booting from > > another device. > > No, but you'll still be able to use /bin/sh when going single user, so > what's the big deal? Using a shell not contained in the root filesystem can cause problems even when not in single user mode. There are enough examples in the archives. > I really don't get what the problem is with this 'sh is on the root' argument. > Using bash is a lot more productive for many people, so why not let them use it? No problem for people to be productive with bash or whatever shell they prefer. Just not for root. You should not even use the root account unless absolutely necessary. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 14:55:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40F116A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:55:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8689643D2D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:55:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D56C460EE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:55:53 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: Apg19+mK0nptZih9Rrk5Jg 1103554551 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-31-135.access.uk.tiscali.com [80.41.31.135]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F73A570159 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:55:51 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:55:43 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <2845d2d80a.2d80a2845d@prodigy.net.mx> <1103551576.23141.42.camel@ninja> In-Reply-To: <1103551576.23141.42.camel@ninja> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412201455.43855.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Simple, graphic, desktop calculator X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:55:54 -0000 On Monday 20 December 2004 14:06, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: > On Mon, 2004-12-20 at 14:02, edwinculp wrote: > > IIRC, kde had a simple desktop calculator. Either it has been removed or > > I can't find it. I have also checked ports and haven't found anything > > similar except add. > > I don't have a FreeBSD desktop machine to hand, but on Mandrake 10.0 the > KDE calculator is installed as "kcalc", part of the kdeutils-kcalc > package: kcalc can be a simple calculator, or a more complex programmer's/scientific calculator according to what options are checked on it's settings menu. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 14:58:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A986716A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:58:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from xenial.mcc.ac.uk (xenial.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.203.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6EBE43D53 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:58:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by xenial.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CgOz8-0000Xl-0a; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:58:06 +0000 Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) iBKEw4x2026607; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:58:04 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.12.10/8.12.6/Submit) id iBKEvxo3026552; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:57:59 GMT Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:57:59 +0000 From: Jonathon McKitrick To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20041220145758.GA26389@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20041217235243.GA89288@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i cc: Matthias Buelow cc: Giorgos Keramidas cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD equivalents of autoconf, automake, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:58:07 -0000 On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 01:14:48AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: : WHY? : ------8<------ : : You don't need an install script. Whomever is building the RPM : or whomever is creating the FreeBSD port has their own ideas of : where they want things to be installed and has no interest in : interference from you. : : Keep it Simple Stupid. A Makefile that has options settible : by editing with a text editor, and a nice readme file that tells : what all the settible options are, is infinitely superior than : all the configure crap. That is all that the RPM and ports : creators want from you. And the end users don't even want to : compile your stuff in the first place, let alone see it's : install script. For example, since Linux and FreeBSD have different device names for the serial port. I'd like to be able to test from my FreeBSD box, but will deploy to Linux. I don't know if system header files are the same, but I need to be able to find them on both systems. jm -- I love feminist movements, especially when I'm walking behind them. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 15:08:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222A716A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:08:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moghedien.mukappabeta.net (moghedien.mukappabeta.net [194.145.150.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57D043D3F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:08:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@mukappabeta.de) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (p548534E7.dip.t-dialin.net [84.133.52.231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by moghedien.mukappabeta.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12732D6F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:03:22 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C6EAE4.10901@mukappabeta.de> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:08:20 +0100 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: BSD equivalents of autoconf, automake, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:08:15 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Keep it Simple Stupid. A Makefile that has options settible > by editing with a text editor, and a nice readme file that tells > what all the settible options are, is infinitely superior than > all the configure crap. That is all that the RPM and ports > creators want from you. And the end users don't even want to > compile your stuff in the first place, let alone see it's > install script. I agree with that completely. Although I might add, that it is possible to write well-behaved configure-scripts. It's just that it needs about the same amount of cross-platform knowledge and testing than if you were hardcoding the stuff in Makefiles. -- Matthias Buelow; mkb@{mukappabeta,informatik.uni-wuerzburg}.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 15:15:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB9016A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:15:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moghedien.mukappabeta.net (moghedien.mukappabeta.net [194.145.150.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18C143D31 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:15:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@mukappabeta.de) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (p548534E7.dip.t-dialin.net [84.133.52.231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by moghedien.mukappabeta.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200382D6A; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:10:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C6EC86.5050203@mukappabeta.de> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:15:18 +0100 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cpghost@cordula.ws References: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> <41C62755.2030705@mukappabeta.de> <20041220142110.GA845@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <20041220142110.GA845@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Nikolas Britton cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: migrating from thunderbird to mutt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:15:10 -0000 cpghost@cordula.ws wrote: > esmtp will contact the appropriate SMTP server on your behalf > and will use the correct credentials to connect (if required). What happens if sending fails (for whatever temporary reason)? Will esmtp queue the mail, like a real MTA would? The issue is problematic with all those "minimalistic" pseudo-MTAs because mutt thinks it's delivering to a real sendmail, and hence doesn't handle failure gracefully (at least not afair). Mozilla otoh, initiating the smtp connection by itself, will let you retry, or save it to a Drafts folder. With mutt, your mail is probably gone. -- Matthias Buelow; mkb@{mukappabeta,informatik.uni-wuerzburg}.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 15:18:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1E216A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:18:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moghedien.mukappabeta.net (moghedien.mukappabeta.net [194.145.150.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D202B43D1F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:18:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@mukappabeta.de) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (p548534E7.dip.t-dialin.net [84.133.52.231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by moghedien.mukappabeta.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157AF2D6A for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:13:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C6ED5C.8040603@mukappabeta.de> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:18:52 +0100 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2845d2d80a.2d80a2845d@prodigy.net.mx> <1103551576.23141.42.camel@ninja> <200412201455.43855.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> In-Reply-To: <200412201455.43855.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Simple, graphic, desktop calculator X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:18:44 -0000 RW wrote: > kcalc can be a simple calculator, or a more complex programmer's/scientific > calculator according to what options are checked on it's settings menu. And if all fails, there's still the good old xcalc, which is available on every X11 installation. -- Matthias Buelow; mkb@{mukappabeta,informatik.uni-wuerzburg}.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 15:22:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CAC316A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:22:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3F943D54 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:22:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (c-24-8-184-241.client.comcast.net [24.8.184.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBKFK05J019005 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:20:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Message-ID: <41C6EE24.4080606@vilot.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:22:12 -0700 From: Tom Vilot User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041016) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> <20041220120620.GA68520@duplo.dahoam> <20041220133252.GB7774@lb.tenfour> <20041220145227.GA24495@ei.bzerk.org> In-Reply-To: <20041220145227.GA24495@ei.bzerk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:22:37 -0000 >Using a shell not contained in the root filesystem can cause problems >even when not in single user mode. There are enough examples in the archives. > > Admittedly, I'm still a bit of a noob, but I can't stand any shell but bash. >>I really don't get what the problem is with this 'sh is on the root' argument. >>Using bash is a lot more productive for many people, so why not let them use it? >> >> > >No problem for people to be productive with bash or whatever shell they >prefer. Just not for root. You should not even use the root account unless >absolutely necessary. > Ya mean like ... ... editing /etc/rc.conf ... installing a port or package ... updating the ports tree and/or running portupgrade ... configuring the firewall ... backing up the file system ... checking /var/log files for attempts at cracking ... reading root's email ... rsyncing to a remote server I would be curious how I could do any of the above as someone other than root. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 15:38:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E526D16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:38:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB0743D2F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:38:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost.circlesquared.com [IPv6:::1]) iBKFcJmw000906 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:38:21 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Message-ID: <41C6F1EB.8000808@circlesquared.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:38:19 +0000 From: Peter Risdon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041219 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <2845d2d80a.2d80a2845d@prodigy.net.mx> <1103551576.23141.42.camel@ninja> In-Reply-To: <1103551576.23141.42.camel@ninja> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Simple, graphic, desktop calculator X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:38:20 -0000 Alasdair Lumsden wrote: > On Mon, 2004-12-20 at 14:02, edwinculp wrote: > >>IIRC, kde had a simple desktop calculator. Either it has been removed or I can't find it. I have >>also checked ports and haven't found anything similar except add. It is for may wife so after >>using the kde one for years she doesn't like add at all and even less bc, dc, etc. >> >>Could anyone suggest one or correct me if it is still in kde and I just haven't found it. > I don't have a FreeBSD desktop machine to hand, but on Mandrake 10.0 the > KDE calculator is installed as "kcalc", part of the kdeutils-kcalc > package: > > [alasdair@ninja alasdair]$ rpm -qf /usr/bin/kcalc > kdeutils-kcalc-3.2-17mdk > > HTH > If you install misc/kdeutils3 you'll find kcalc in your utilities menu. Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 15:48:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB8B16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:48:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dsl-mail.kamp.net (mail.kamp-dsl.de [195.62.99.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C4A8F43D3F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:48:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: (qmail 29939 invoked by uid 513); 20 Dec 2004 15:48:41 -0000 Received: from 213.146.114.24 by dsl-mail (envelope-from , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.24 (clamdscan: 0.80/609. spamassassin: 2.60. Clear:RC:1(213.146.114.24):SA:0(2.1/5.0):. Processed in 0.412764 secs); 20 Dec 2004 15:48:41 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 X-Spam-Level: ++ Received: from unknown (HELO reverse-213-146-114-24.dialin.kamp-dsl.de) (213.146.114.24) by dsl-mail.kamp.net with SMTP; 20 Dec 2004 15:48:41 -0000 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:53:59 +0100 (CET) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa X-X-Sender: root@pukruppa.net To: edwinculp In-Reply-To: <2845d2d80a.2d80a2845d@prodigy.net.mx> Message-ID: <20041220165054.K26963@pukruppa.net> References: <2845d2d80a.2d80a2845d@prodigy.net.mx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Simple, graphic, desktop calculator X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:48:40 -0000 On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, edwinculp wrote: > IIRC, kde had a simple desktop calculator. Either it has been > removed or I can't find it. On kde3.3 it should be /usr/local/bin/kcalc In cases of emerency you can still run /usr/X11R6/bin/xcalc (though it looks a bit old fashioned). Regards, Uli. > I have also checked ports and > haven't found anything similar except add. It is for may wife > so after using the kde one for years she doesn't like add at > all and even less bc, dc, etc. > > Could anyone suggest one or correct me if it is still in kde > and I just haven't found it. > > Thanks, > > ed > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > +---------------------------+ | Peter Ulrich Kruppa | | Wuppertal | | Germany | +---------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 15:57:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDDD16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:57:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400CE43D69 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:57:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (c-24-8-184-241.client.comcast.net [24.8.184.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBKFswWp020104 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:54:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Message-ID: <41C6F656.2050502@vilot.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:57:10 -0700 From: Tom Vilot User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041016) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200412171524.iBHFOJ428849@clunix.cl.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <200412171524.iBHFOJ428849@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: why must boot in single mode. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:57:35 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: >FreeBSD (with Apache, PHP, MySQL or PostgresSQL, etc) makes a very >good - maybe the best - webserver system. > > Don't forget Zope :c) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 15:57:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0F916A4DD for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:57:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8DA43D2D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:57:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [IPv6???1] (localhost.daemonsecurity.com [127.0.0.1]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A37FD008; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:57:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C6F670.7090602@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:57:36 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Vilot References: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> <20041220120620.GA68520@duplo.dahoam> <20041220133252.GB7774@lb.tenfour> <20041220145227.GA24495@ei.bzerk.org> <41C6EE24.4080606@vilot.com> In-Reply-To: <41C6EE24.4080606@vilot.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:57:49 -0000 Tom Vilot wrote: >> Using a shell not contained in the root filesystem can cause problems >> even when not in single user mode. There are enough examples in the >> archives. > > Admittedly, I'm still a bit of a noob, but I can't stand any shell but > bash. Is it a big problem just to start bash once you've logged in? I had it like you untill I discovered just how cool csh manage your command history: Type the first letter and it will only go trough commands with that letter, type two ... yeah you guessed right. But I do like that bash shows me the options when autocomplete does not have a unique completion. If it really annoys you, you can go through scripting the login such that it will start bash if it exists and otherwise csh/sh whatever. It is doable, I had my login create a time stamp file and open an editor on logout to produce a cvs-sort-of-like history - why where you root? >> Just not for root. You should not even use the root account >> unless absolutely necessary. >> > Ya mean like ... > > ... editing /etc/rc.conf which you do only on new systems - about the first month of running. > ... installing a port or package > ... updating the ports tree and/or running portupgrade Have your ports tree writable by the staff/administrator group. When privileges needs to be elevated you are prompted for a password. > ... configuring the firewall Which you don't do on a daily basis. > ... backing up the file system Which is a cronjob. > ... checking /var/log files for attempts at cracking Consider setting the permisions for the group so wheel members have read permissions. > ... reading root's email You don't, just as you don't send email as root. root email should be forwarded to members of the wheel group, and a local copy only kept for reading when everything is down. Alternatively, with cyrus-imap you can share a common mail-box to specific users. I like this solution, as I can see if someone else had read the mail and hence assume they also took care of any problems. It is my experience that if mail is not forwarded the responsible will tend to forget to read it and problems may go unnoticed for days. > ... rsyncing to a remote server rsyncing what? do you allow remote root login on your servers? I don't have anything that needs rsync by root, but even when I did, it was a cronjob. Certainly, there are things that need to be done as root, but these are typically single commands. You don't need a permanent root shell. If you have a major task to do as root, go ahead startup bash - what's the big problem? Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 15:59:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51CBA16A4CF for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:59:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE58343D66 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:59:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (c-24-8-184-241.client.comcast.net [24.8.184.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBKFvAMx020183 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:57:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Message-ID: <41C6F6DA.1050505@vilot.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:59:22 -0700 From: Tom Vilot User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041016) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <110327407301@mailserver.mail.gr> In-Reply-To: <110327407301@mailserver.mail.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Firefox for FBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:59:47 -0000 freebsd@mail.gr wrote: >thanks for answering everyone :^) I really appreciate it. > >the thing is, I use FreeBSD 4.7 and I was thinking about the latest >version of firefox. > Doesn't matter what version of BSD you have ... It's a port. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 16:13:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF68916A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:13:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 215B643D1F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:13:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.26.30 with login) by smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2004 16:13:07 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: Joshua Lokken Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:13:05 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <003b01c4e489$6497d0e0$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> <41C4F0CC.30700@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412200813.06057.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: Kevin Smith cc: Nikolas Britton cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Tom Connolly Subject: Re: (cvsup newbie questions) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:13:09 -0000 On Monday 20 December 2004 06:08 am, Joshua Lokken wrote: > On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:09:00 -0600, Nikolas Britton > wrote: > > Joshua Tinnin wrote: > > >Well, if you build a port with make options once, then it will > > > remember your make options. Otherwise, you can enter make > > > arguments in /etc/pkgtools.conf, although this only helps if you > > > know what arguments the ports you're installing might need. > > > > What do you mean it "remembers" what make options I used... if I do > > a portupgrade it without setting MAKE_ARGS in pkgtools.conf it will > > remember my make options from the last time I built it? Also how to > > I make it "unremember" make options I don't want anymore? > > I don't know about that. If I want portupgrade to use custom make > flags, I specify them in /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf. To remove > options from a previous build, you can do: > > # rm /var/db/ports//options IIRC, pkgtools.conf only works with the pkgtools apps, like portupgrade. I don't think it works with making the port from the tree itself (like if you cd to the folder and make install clean), but options you use in building it from the ports tree will be stored in /var/db/ports//options, as mentioned above. This is what I meant by "remembered." > > Also, semi related, whats this "Generating INDEX-5 - please wait.." > > thing and why does it take an hour for it to generate? > > The machine is building the ports collection INDEX-5 file from the > make describe output of all of the ports. You can simplify this > process by doing 'make fetchindex' after you cvsup each time. Yes, although you should cd /usr/ports before you do that. I guess the way people are doing this now is cvsup ports, cd /usr/ports && make fetchindex && portsdb -u (this last step will be done automatically when it needs to be done, but you can do it anyway after a ports tree update). You can also use /usr/ports/sysutils/p5-FreeBSD-Portindex , which speeds up the process of making a new INDEX locally. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 16:13:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F49816A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:13:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D4443D1D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:13:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0477388EE9; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:13:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:13:27 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Scott Bennett , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4C9F306EABD019DDDBAA540D@utd49554.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <200412200814.iBK8EK2j020638@mp.cs.niu.edu> References: <200412200814.iBK8EK2j020638@mp.cs.niu.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: ifconfig for WLAN using WEP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:13:28 -0000 --On Monday, December 20, 2004 02:14:20 AM -0600 Scott Bennett wrote: > I've been asked in freebsd-newbies to move this to freebsd-questions, > so I'll start with my original message content after this line. > I'm trying to get my FreeBSD 5.2.1 system to connect to our household > wireless net. The router and the only other computer in the household are > using WEP, so my FreeBSD machine needs to do so as well. Unfortunately, > whenever I add a WEP-related argument (e.g., wep, wepkey, wepmode) to the > ifconfig command, as in > > ifconfig fwe0 wep > > I get > > ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument > This was posted recently here by Daan Vreeken. You can't combine "use DHCP" and "use this SSID" in /etc/rc.conf . To do both, you need to create a startup script that sets the interface options (ssid / wep key / etc) and then just set /etc/rc.conf to use DHCP. In /etc/rc.conf put this : ifconfig_ath0="DHCP" Then place this in a file called /etc/start_if.ath0 : ifconfig ath0 ssid "some network" wepmode on wepkey 0x1234567890123 --- end of /etc/start_if.ath0 --- The RC scripts will now first execute /etc/start_if.ath0 on boot, and then try to get an ip address on the interface with dhclient. Obviously, your file would be /etc/start_if.fwe0. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 16:25:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AEB16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:25:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B34143D2D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:25:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from bsdbox.farid-hajji.net (bsdbox [192.168.254.3]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0604AD7E; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:25:27 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:25:38 +0100 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: Matthias Buelow Message-ID: <20041220162538.GA1206@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> References: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> <41C62755.2030705@mukappabeta.de> <20041220142110.GA845@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> <41C6EC86.5050203@mukappabeta.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C6EC86.5050203@mukappabeta.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: Nikolas Britton cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: migrating from thunderbird to mutt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:25:38 -0000 On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:15:18PM +0100, Matthias Buelow wrote: > cpghost@cordula.ws wrote: > > >esmtp will contact the appropriate SMTP server on your behalf > >and will use the correct credentials to connect (if required). > > What happens if sending fails (for whatever temporary reason)? Will > esmtp queue the mail, like a real MTA would? The issue is problematic > with all those "minimalistic" pseudo-MTAs because mutt thinks it's > delivering to a real sendmail, and hence doesn't handle failure > gracefully (at least not afair). Mozilla otoh, initiating the smtp > connection by itself, will let you retry, or save it to a Drafts folder. > With mutt, your mail is probably gone. Indeed. That's really a problem. I wished mutt would include libESMTP as a compile/configure option, and thus queue unsent mails in a dedicated mailbox. I don't think that it would be very difficult to merge libESMTP into mutt anyway. It's a mystery why it didn't happen yet :) > -- > Matthias Buelow; mkb@{mukappabeta,informatik.uni-wuerzburg}.de Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 16:26:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7383F16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:26:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21CE943D2D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:26:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (c-24-8-184-241.client.comcast.net [24.8.184.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBKGNxdP021058 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:23:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Message-ID: <41C6FD23.1010308@vilot.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:26:11 -0700 From: Tom Vilot User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041016) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <20041219193843.GA34296@ninja.terrabionic.com> <20041219214045.M8970@wcborstel.nl> In-Reply-To: <20041219214045.M8970@wcborstel.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD doesn't even boot! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:26:36 -0000 Jorn Argelo wrote: >You might want to consider installing a standard MBR during the installation >(so not the FreeBSD bootloader). Then only FreeBSD will boot if you have >selected the drive as the primary drive in the bios > Oh, that reminds me of another question. I installed 5.3 on a Dell Inspiron 8200 (and am thoroughly pleased). Can I change / remove the boot loader now, after I've done all this? I would basically like to get rid of it, so that it just boots into FreeBSD. There are no other OSs on here. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 16:33:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF2416A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:33:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gremlin.internode.com.au (gandalf.bugman.cx [150.101.14.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C912943D49 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:33:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adam@internode.com.au) Received: from gremlin.internode.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gremlin (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBKDegmx001231; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:10:42 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from adam@internode.com.au) Received: (from adam@localhost) by gremlin.internode.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBKDeg1x001230; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:10:42 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from adam@internode.com.au) X-Authentication-Warning: gremlin.internode.com.au: adam set sender to adam@internode.com.au using -f Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:10:41 +1030 From: Adam Smith To: Gerhard Meier , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041220134041.GH801@internode.com.au> References: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> <20041220120620.GA68520@duplo.dahoam> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041220120620.GA68520@duplo.dahoam> X-Face: $vsV$1FNbZN\JVpjV#&+/!oVW`Kw$j?w_,te\SS}(tKD21c+l$t%\RCS(r$G; XXk]6,(!N:&(N3EV0bY`3):UrgG7'*qsj3l.75IaHV1<`i*{[L\:F*l6fH##C:-p2]xW/R-Z:!bo; 5g3GP-{I{}7O>tN}`Xm/=-:8NG?f-r'$Qc3y[aW-7'W_S<`KYU!_; `7K=kuC$-.7J2*kk=~`c@ADp+xhsv(!a@eW-R_5wtx+tC)(]%W+ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:33:45 -0000 On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 01:07:16PM +0100, Gerhard Meier said: > On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 08:41:57AM -0200, Giuliano Cardozo Medalha wrote: > > I have a machine with FreeBSD 5.3 - release -p2. > > > > I have installed bash from ports. > > > > How is possible to use bash in root account ? > > Do not change the shell of the root account. If you have /usr or > /usr/local on a separate partition, and you cannot mount for some > reason, you wont be able to fix that, without booting from > another device. More to the point, you should not change the shell to something outside of the / partition. For example, you can change it to 'tcsh' or something like that, as it exists in /bin. -- Adam Smith Internode : http://www.internode.on.net Phone : (08) 8228 2999 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 16:42:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD22B16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:42:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2AC43D48 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:42:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])iBKGfqSo012226; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:41:52 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) iBKGfpWB001003; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:41:51 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)iBKGfpje001002; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:41:51 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:41:51 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: cpghost@cordula.ws Message-ID: <20041220164151.GA847@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> <41C62755.2030705@mukappabeta.de> <20041220142110.GA845@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> <41C6EC86.5050203@mukappabeta.de> <20041220162538.GA1206@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041220162538.GA1206@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> cc: Matthias Buelow cc: Nikolas Britton cc: freebsd-chat Subject: Re: migrating from thunderbird to mutt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:42:07 -0000 % Moved from freebsd-questions to freebsd-chat, % since this is not really a question. On 2004-12-20 17:25, cpghost@cordula.ws wrote: >On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:15:18PM +0100, Matthias Buelow wrote: >>cpghost@cordula.ws wrote: >>> esmtp will contact the appropriate SMTP server on your behalf and >>> will use the correct credentials to connect (if required). >> >> What happens if sending fails (for whatever temporary reason)? Will >> esmtp queue the mail, like a real MTA would? The issue is problematic >> with all those "minimalistic" pseudo-MTAs because mutt thinks it's >> delivering to a real sendmail, and hence doesn't handle failure >> gracefully (at least not afair). Mozilla otoh, initiating the smtp >> connection by itself, will let you retry, or save it to a Drafts folder. >> With mutt, your mail is probably gone. > > Indeed. That's really a problem. I wished mutt would include libESMTP > as a compile/configure option, and thus queue unsent mails in a dedicated > mailbox. I don't think that it would be very difficult to merge libESMTP > into mutt anyway. It's a mystery why it didn't happen yet :) Err, I may sound a bit silly now, but why would people use a "limited sort of MTA", which may lose their messages instead of setting up a real MTA and use its queueing, forwarding and delivery features? I've heard of two major replies to a question like this: 1. It's difficult to install an MTA. 2. It's difficult to set up an MTA. The first point is moot, given the fact that FreeBSD comes with an MTA preinstalled. The second may be valid for Sendmail, but I've seen so many knowledgeable people answer questions about Sendmail here and at comp.mail.sendmail that this shouldn't be true either. Even if someone hates the guts of Sendmail, there is always Postfix, whose minimal configuration can be just a 2-line file: % cat /etc/postfix/main.cf myhostname = bee mydomain = serverhive.com So, why do people fear real MTAs so much and try to do their work with "light, fast, broken, almost-there MTAs"? - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 16:56:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DE116A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:56:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DBE343D2D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:56:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so186562wra for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:56:21 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=NO7HY5iNfcobMHEqnkHVxur9+WTgBtdPSwiHkvQiq0Ckg0uzPbIPfGYMXYTxIey0eaZwMwnHd8z51RZmyHAFB8/pcZ5BauenOYGdJfk/T7r2tQLivJHkWtpko3V5lOURNwrX3M1wOuKEyjE9mBjXSbD3ZDqKkLc8VEwWeMcx38g= Received: by 10.54.54.80 with SMTP id c80mr386407wra; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:56:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.34 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:56:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:56:21 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Joshua Tinnin In-Reply-To: <200412200813.06057.krinklyfig@spymac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <003b01c4e489$6497d0e0$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> <41C4F0CC.30700@nbritton.org> <200412200813.06057.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (cvsup newbie questions) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:56:22 -0000 On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:13:05 -0800, Joshua Tinnin > IIRC, pkgtools.conf only works with the pkgtools apps, like portupgrade. > I don't think it works with making the port from the tree itself (like > if you cd to the folder and make install clean), but options you use in > building it from the ports tree will be stored > in /var/db/ports//options, as mentioned above. This is what I > meant by "remembered." Yes, correct. > > > Also, semi related, whats this "Generating INDEX-5 - please wait.." > > > thing and why does it take an hour for it to generate? > > > > The machine is building the ports collection INDEX-5 file from the > > make describe output of all of the ports. You can simplify this > > process by doing 'make fetchindex' after you cvsup each time. > > Yes, although you should cd /usr/ports before you do that. I guess the > way people are doing this now is cvsup ports, cd /usr/ports && make > fetchindex && portsdb -u (this last step will be done automatically > when it needs to be done, but you can do it anyway after a ports tree > update). You can also use /usr/ports/sysutils/p5-FreeBSD-Portindex , > which speeds up the process of making a new INDEX locally. Ah, yes, it does help to be in /usr/ports when one runs 'make fetchindex'. -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 17:04:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2BE016A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:04:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB5E43D2F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:04:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so189350wra for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:04:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=BgMx/lub2npzJ3XNrUcy69QShuNETaWLp3gXfKoqd3V1IqyeHKfZzJvE+zSRb0XRT50g5pyOQkBFjKNgVkmoMM0Z/GNrwo6wrzWFWPa9OpRG0WCJisCICi7+hT1yLaPNvcgXKOSSryODyxwjVDe2xFFF2Pw2N4JYvGBTXELHPYI= Received: by 10.54.53.23 with SMTP id b23mr622762wra; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:04:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.34 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:04:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:04:46 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: David Landgren In-Reply-To: <41C6B7A1.1090708@landgren.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> <41C6B7A1.1090708@landgren.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:04:48 -0000 On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:29:37 +0100, David Landgren wrote: > Giuliano Cardozo Medalha wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a machine with FreeBSD 5.3 - release -p2. > > > > I have installed bash from ports. > > > > How is possible to use bash in root account ? > > > > Thanks a lot > > Don't. > > Leave /bin/sh as your shell. 'Leave' /bin/sh as your shell makes it sound like /bin/sh is the default root shell. Did this change in FreeBSD 5.x? It appears that in 4.x, the root shell is /bin/csh by default, which [I believe] is linked to /bin/tcsh. -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 17:21:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10BD16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:21:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.68.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2B643D2D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:21:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.13.2/8.13.2/d) with ESMTP id iBKHL1A1029589 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:21:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:21:01 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200412201721.iBKHL1qr029588@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig for WLAN using WEP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:21:58 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: >--On Monday, December 20, 2004 02:14:20 AM -0600 Scott Bennett > wrote: > >> I've been asked in freebsd-newbies to move this to freebsd-questions, >> so I'll start with my original message content after this line. >> I'm trying to get my FreeBSD 5.2.1 system to connect to our household >> wireless net. The router and the only other computer in the household are >> using WEP, so my FreeBSD machine needs to do so as well. Unfortunately, >> whenever I add a WEP-related argument (e.g., wep, wepkey, wepmode) to the >> ifconfig command, as in >> >> ifconfig fwe0 wep >> >> I get >> >> ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument >> >This was posted recently here by Daan Vreeken. > >You can't combine "use DHCP" and "use this SSID" in /etc/rc.conf . >To do both, you need to create a startup script that sets the interface >options (ssid / wep key / etc) and then just set /etc/rc.conf to use DHCP. I wasn't combining them. Here's some background information: the only "connected" interface at the time of the ifconfig shown above is the loopback. The ethernet interface is "UP" but not physically connected to anything. The wireless interface is not "UP" and not previously configured for anything. As I wrote before, the problem is that *any* WEP-related terms given to the ifconfig command result in the error message being returned. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 17:31:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B062916A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:31:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564A243D46 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:31:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so197147wra for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:31:04 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=aQeEnw2egnAagBKucq/3F2jItFBfTBkPyhCN16U0A6h9gWmd9bNsnprWxg9w583oTpqJH7+1JFDnpG8r27E6m7JQ0CP/LkH7HHeolsIsFekSScgkAkrAWKR1oJp5BAYBmI9pZb66gbe3FC7xiMUUiPa4Tf4r8++DP3qvDxR5zdg= Received: by 10.54.54.80 with SMTP id c80mr403193wra; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:31:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.34 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:31:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:31:04 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Daniel Johansson In-Reply-To: <2a37e1ef0412191423786ac08a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <2a37e1ef0412191423786ac08a@mail.gmail.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Do I have to rebuild my jails too when I rebuild the server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:31:05 -0000 On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:23:26 +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: > I'm a big fan of jails and use three on my server. I also try to keep > my server up to date and I rebuild it frequently but when I rebuild my > server, update to the latest version, do I also have to rebuild my > jails? > > Can I have a jail built with 4.10 and use it without problems in 4.11 and so on? I do not have a specific answer to that question, however, this doc may help you determine what you need to do: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-August/055091.html -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 17:32:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A7B16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:32:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E052643D1F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:32:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.26.30 with login) by smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2004 17:32:41 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:32:36 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> <20041220162538.GA1206@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> <20041220164151.GA847@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> In-Reply-To: <20041220164151.GA847@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412200932.37029.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: Giorgos Keramidas cc: Matthias Buelow cc: Nikolas Britton cc: cpghost@cordula.ws Subject: Re: migrating from thunderbird to mutt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:32:47 -0000 On Monday 20 December 2004 08:41 am, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > % Moved from freebsd-questions to freebsd-chat, > % since this is not really a question. > > On 2004-12-20 17:25, cpghost@cordula.ws wrote: > >On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:15:18PM +0100, Matthias Buelow wrote: > >>cpghost@cordula.ws wrote: > >>> esmtp will contact the appropriate SMTP server on your behalf and > >>> will use the correct credentials to connect (if required). > >> > >> What happens if sending fails (for whatever temporary reason)? > >> Will esmtp queue the mail, like a real MTA would? The issue is > >> problematic with all those "minimalistic" pseudo-MTAs because mutt > >> thinks it's delivering to a real sendmail, and hence doesn't > >> handle failure gracefully (at least not afair). Mozilla otoh, > >> initiating the smtp connection by itself, will let you retry, or > >> save it to a Drafts folder. With mutt, your mail is probably gone. > > > > Indeed. That's really a problem. I wished mutt would include > > libESMTP as a compile/configure option, and thus queue unsent mails > > in a dedicated mailbox. I don't think that it would be very > > difficult to merge libESMTP into mutt anyway. It's a mystery why it > > didn't happen yet :) > > Err, I may sound a bit silly now, but why would people use a "limited > sort of MTA", which may lose their messages instead of setting up a > real MTA and use its queueing, forwarding and delivery features? > > I've heard of two major replies to a question like this: > > 1. It's difficult to install an MTA. > 2. It's difficult to set up an MTA. > > The first point is moot, given the fact that FreeBSD comes with an > MTA preinstalled. The second may be valid for Sendmail, but I've > seen so many knowledgeable people answer questions about Sendmail > here and at comp.mail.sendmail that this shouldn't be true either. > > Even if someone hates the guts of Sendmail, there is always Postfix, > whose minimal configuration can be just a 2-line file: > > % cat /etc/postfix/main.cf > myhostname = bee > mydomain = serverhive.com > > So, why do people fear real MTAs so much and try to do their work > with "light, fast, broken, almost-there MTAs"? As for me, it's because my box is in a LAN with a router using a dynamic IP, so I can't get a fully-qualified domain name. This also causes some minor issues with fbsd, but not so much that I can't work with it. As for using Sendmail as the MTA just so Mutt can pass off email to an SMTP server, I've tried configuring it for weeks now, and I'm still not there. I may end up using esmtp if it can save some headaches, although I purposely tried to get Sendmail to work so that I could do it the "right" way. Well, I still want to learn, but it's one of the most confusing and frustrating experiences I've ever had dealing with software, and I'm not alone in this. *That's* why people fear "real" MTAs so much, because mail transfer protocols and software at the low level is very complicated and extremely finicky in ways that aren't documented clearly. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 17:34:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB0216A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:34:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76C743D41 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:34:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nkinkade@fastmail.fm) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE01DC45CCE; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:34:28 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: t2BbPpG75eQKnZoq2UOIaA 1103564067 Received: from gentoo-npk.bmp.ub (unknown [206.27.244.136]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1DD6570147; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:34:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from nkinkade by gentoo-npk.bmp.ub with local (Exim 4.21) id 1CgPPR-0004aX-F2; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:25:17 -0600 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:25:17 -0600 From: Nathan Kinkade To: Nikolas Britton Message-ID: <20041220152517.GA17559@gentoo-npk.bmp.ub> Mail-Followup-To: Nikolas Britton , freebsd-questions References: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: migrating from thunderbird to mutt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nathan Kinkade List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:34:30 -0000 --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 09:48:44PM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote: > Need some advice here... >=20 > I would like to change my mail client from thunderbird to a text based=20 > client so I can email from anywhere using just ssh (don't like "web=20 > based" clients, too slow). I would like to try mutt being that it's a=20 > very popular text client but I have many questions about it. so can=20 > someone at least point me in the right direction(s) (faqs, docs,=20 > how-to's, anything)... First, it should be noted that mutt can be configured to do just about anything that you want. Is it highly configurable and extendable. You can almost count on the fact that if something can be done in another MUA, then it can probably be done it mutt as well. Some patience and an Intenet connection should get the job done. Perhaps you should consider starting at mutt.org. Read the manual. > How do I get my old email (from thunderbird, mbox?) into mutt? Mutt can use both mbox and maildir format. If you feel like switching to maildir, which I recommend, there are some scripts floating around the next that will convert mbox mailboxes to maildir. I did this in the past, but don't remember which script I used - just do some smart websearches. > Can mutt handle um like 5+ email address and have them all separated and= =20 > be able to send from diffrent email accounts? > If I remember right mutt is just a mail reader, so how do I get mail to= =20 > and sent from mutt? Mutt is an MUA (Mail User Agent). You can both read and create mail in mutt. However, mutt is NOT an MTA (Mail Transfer Agent), meaning mutt will have to hand off the message to an MTA, which in turn handles the actual delivery. Most people probably configure a local MTA to handle delivery of messages. > How does it handle hyperlinks, if I select something will it open up in= =20 > firefox or whatever? Mutt will use the system mime types configurations defined in ~/.mailcap. This won't allow you to "click" anything in the mail body, but it allows you to view HTML attachments using your browser. However, assuming your using mutt in a xterminal windows (or similar), how difficult is it to just copy the address into your browsers address box? > Message filtering, for example I have all the different freebsd mailing= =20 > lists automatically put into different folders, and junk mail sorting? Most people use something like procmail for mail filtering, but I'm not sure if mutt has the ability to do some sort of basic filtering/sorting. A websearch for "mutt procmail" will probably return more pages than you can read talking about how to use mutt & procmail. > Speell check? Mutt can use the text based spell checker called "ispell". Just install ispell from the ports and when you are about to send your message press 'i' and it will launch ispell on the message. > How do I set the thing up, config file help? Try a websearch for "example mutt configuration", or something similar. There are probably thousands of example mutt configs posted on the web. In the past I have noticed that a lot of people like to post their mutt config online for others to use. --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBxu7dO0ZIEthSfkkRAnq+AJ0YqNiA5leLf9RrNnmPqjy+0pkQ7ACg8Zf4 mMd/S34uRwzmY4ug7ZrfLSM= =jBWt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 17:41:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C07EE16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:41:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sferics.mongueurs.net (sferics.mongueurs.net [81.80.147.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2841F43D5C for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:41:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@landgren.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (exo.bpinet.com [81.80.147.206]) by sferics.mongueurs.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30911A9A0 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:41:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C70EAB.2000302@landgren.net> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:40:59 +0100 From: David Landgren Organization: The Lusty Decadent Delights of Imperial Pompeii User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> <20041220120620.GA68520@duplo.dahoam> <20041220133252.GB7774@lb.tenfour> In-Reply-To: <20041220133252.GB7774@lb.tenfour> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:41:01 -0000 Dick Davies wrote: > * Gerhard Meier [1207 12:07]: > >>On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 08:41:57AM -0200, Giuliano Cardozo Medalha wrote: >> >>>I have a machine with FreeBSD 5.3 - release -p2. >>> >>>I have installed bash from ports. >>> >>>How is possible to use bash in root account ? >> >>Do not change the shell of the root account. If you have /usr or >>/usr/local on a separate partition, and you cannot mount for some >>reason, you wont be able to fix that, without booting from >>another device. > > > No, but you'll still be able to use /bin/sh when going single user, so > what's the big deal? > > I really don't get what the problem is with this 'sh is on the root' argument. > Using bash is a lot more productive for many people, so why not let them use it? > If you're really terrified of not knowing how to use sh, then stick a static bash > in /bin. > > To the original poster: just be root and run 'chsh'. No. When you are logged in as root, you *should* have to go through extra hoops to get comfortable. I am not saying that you should not use bash when logged in as root. I am saying that you should not configure your root account to login with shell that is dysfunctional if /usr is unmounted. Yes, 'exec zsh' or whatever is a minor hassle, but it's there to remind you that root is different. If the OP had to ask, then it's pretty clear that he shouldn't. David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 17:42:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35FBF16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:42:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53602.mail.yahoo.com (web53602.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB36143D53 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:42:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flexble2547@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 25830 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Dec 2004 17:42:09 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=3WmLt8U7pxryb8ioDHfvDhl+bTJf5Z79TjzHkTeyUc6NrbKq39CyYheqzOSLRtU96PpBvelBBm/4tiWkFeqGwo3HwCtcV023vxBzUHdnIa/Bl+vTaMAum0IAsQSVemxqv2lWkfcSx4irtZdCqKvn2Iw0Im54ijSXUqfk6kyD3gE= ; Message-ID: <20041220174208.25828.qmail@web53602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.100.166.16] by web53602.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:42:08 PST Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:42:08 -0800 (PST) From: scott renna To: Scott Bennett , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200412200814.iBK8EK2j020638@mp.cs.niu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: ifconfig for WLAN using WEP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:42:10 -0000 Scott, I just went through this myself. Take a look at the FreeBSD handbook at www.freebsd.org/handbook. This is in the section for advanced networking, don't have the link handy just now. Additionally, you can do a man ifconfig my ifconfig looks like this: ifconfig_ath0="inet x.x.x.x netmask x.x.x.x ssid XXXX wepmode on channel 1 wepkey 0xXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX" hope that helps. scott --- Scott Bennett wrote: > I've been asked in freebsd-newbies to move this > to freebsd-questions, > so I'll start with my original message content after > this line. > I'm trying to get my FreeBSD 5.2.1 system to > connect to our household > wireless net. The router and the only other > computer in the household are > using WEP, so my FreeBSD machine needs to do so as > well. Unfortunately, > whenever I add a WEP-related argument (e.g., wep, > wepkey, wepmode) to the > ifconfig command, as in > > ifconfig fwe0 wep > > I get > > ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument > > I'm currently running the GENERIC kernel, so perhaps > I'm missing some > config option. > Although I've installed many other UNIX > systems, this is my first attempt > to get a FreeBSD system working, and thus I consider > myself a newbie and am > posting this problem to this list. If someone > thinks I should have posted > it to freebsd-questions, please let me know. I'm > signed up there, too, so > I can repost this over there if that would be more > appropriate. > If anyone can give me a clue how to get this > thing working, I'd really > appreciate it. The version of XFree86 that came on > the CDROM for 5.2.1 is > old and lacks the driver for the Mobility Radeon > 9800 graphics card, so I > am using the system with no graphics (and thus no > windowing other than the > old 4.3BSD window(1) command), which is a major > drag. I need the net access > to ftp the latest-and-greatest version of X11 or > XFree86 to make the machine > really usable. > > > Scott Bennett, > Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG > ********************************************************************** > * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu > * > *--------------------------------------------------------------------* > * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at > all times a good * > * objection to the introduction of that bane of all > free governments * > * -- a standing army." > * > * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 > January 1790 * > ********************************************************************** > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 17:43:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB5116A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:43:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sferics.mongueurs.net (sferics.mongueurs.net [81.80.147.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3A443D1D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:43:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@landgren.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (exo.bpinet.com [81.80.147.206]) by sferics.mongueurs.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8556A9A3 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:43:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C70F52.5000607@landgren.net> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:43:46 +0100 From: David Landgren Organization: The Lusty Decadent Delights of Imperial Pompeii User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> <41C6B7A1.1090708@landgren.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:43:47 -0000 Joshua Lokken wrote: > On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:29:37 +0100, David Landgren wrote: [...] >>Leave /bin/sh as your shell. > > > 'Leave' /bin/sh as your shell makes it sound like /bin/sh is the > default root shell. Did this change in FreeBSD 5.x? It appears > that in 4.x, the root shell is /bin/csh by default, which [I believe] > is linked to /bin/tcsh. No, it's still /bin/csh. My bad. I hate csh so much I usually change it to /bin/sh :) David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 17:49:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8586D16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:49:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E8EE43D53 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:49:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so178116rne for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:49:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=io61tMKKlvffHqN4K4uNsh6xhjjonABptuusJCHsUUZnmolDTZdj0y/rfohY3GCxQrwi9row0408puL0p2jzBahBVszg0Ojx+sGU8xdeZtmC8lLTqFVCB5rrf1/xNKnJGlWv+tNWzJO5qe3nMcAGbM3n+VyS3BcGu/UI1iTgdqM= Received: by 10.38.208.75 with SMTP id f75mr127857rng; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:49:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.96.72 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:49:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:49:11 -0800 From: patrick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: edquota -p question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: patrick List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:49:12 -0000 I notice that in FreeBSD 4.x, if you apply a disk quota to one user using another as a proto-username (edquota -p ), it also copies the proto-user's current usage statistic. Could this be seen as a bug? If the proto-user happens to be over quota, their usage should not be applied to the new user. Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 17:53:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B04F16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:53:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (ns1.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B64743D49 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:53:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.tsgincorporated.com [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378013A73E1; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:53:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtp1.tsgincorporated.com ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 76476-06; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:53:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtp3.tsgincorporated.com (radsubmit.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.9]) by smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30823A73E0; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:53:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from micheal (micheal.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.77]) by smtp3.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B9CA662899; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:53:38 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <03fe01c4e6bc$d5f37980$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> From: "Micheal Patterson" To: "Joshua Lokken" , "David Landgren" References: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> <41C6B7A1.1090708@landgren.net> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:53:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tsgincorporated.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:53:43 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Lokken" To: "David Landgren" Cc: Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 11:04 AM Subject: Re: bash - superuser > On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:29:37 +0100, David Landgren wrote: > > Giuliano Cardozo Medalha wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have a machine with FreeBSD 5.3 - release -p2. > > > > > > I have installed bash from ports. > > > > > > How is possible to use bash in root account ? > > > > > > Thanks a lot > > > > Don't. > > > > Leave /bin/sh as your shell. > > 'Leave' /bin/sh as your shell makes it sound like /bin/sh is the > default root shell. Did this change in FreeBSD 5.x? It appears > that in 4.x, the root shell is /bin/csh by default, which [I believe] > is linked to /bin/tcsh. > > > -- > Joshua Lokken > Open Source Advocate csh is still the default root shell. At one time, systems required multiple drives due to space. So, these systems would have a partioning scheme such as: hda0 - / hda1 - /var hda2 - /swap hda3 - /usr ... and so on depending on their drive capacity at the time. Please keep in mind that this OS (and it's ancestors) were running on systems that had multiple drives with 20mb or less in their day. The tree has constantly grown from those days. As such, many admins use this scheme today because they either have used this scheme for 10's of years and don't wish to change their ways. Personal and/or financial reasoning aside as to why they don't wish to change is totally their decision. Even so, there are some good points to this methodology. It provides the ability to not lose the entire system in the event of drive failure. In this method, having the root shell on another partition invites failure for the entire system should root's shell reside on a crashed / failed partition. No root, no repair capability. On the other hand, many admins use a system with a single drive in them and use NIS/NFS as their userland drive space. Some may even have /usr/ itself fed from NFS. In either method, if you want to use anything other than csh, you will need to move it to /bin. You want it to be uncorruptable in the event of breach. So, if you still wish to use bash as the root shell, copy the executable into /bin, add it to /etc/shells, and set it immutable ("chflags schg /bin/bash") so that in the event of breach, the shell is still unable to be modified and will be reachable in the event of NFS or partition failure. With the state of drives, raid arrays, etc in todays world, either way will work just as good as the other. Each person has their own preferences for their own reasons. -- Micheal Patterson Senior Communications Systems Engineer 405-917-0600 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 17:55:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBCA116A4D0; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:55:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.uol.com.br (smtpout3.uol.com.br [200.221.4.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BBC43D45; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:55:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from giulianocm@uol.com.br) Received: from [201.1.132.37] (unknown [201.1.132.37]) by scorpion3.uol.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930BD70A93; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:53:37 -0200 (BRST) Message-ID: <41C7119B.1020204@uol.com.br> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:53:31 -0200 From: Giuliano Cardozo Medalha Organization: WZTECH User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Route-Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: giulianocm@uol.com.br List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:55:54 -0000 Hi, Does anyone knows how to create a route-server for BGPv4 peering using freebsd and vlans (802.1q) ? There is some good tutorial about it ? I read something about quagga software !!! This is enough secure ? Its possible to use it for BGP MD-5 authentication ? How can I do that ? thanks a lot Giuliano From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 18:14:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0EF16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:14:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms05.mailstreet2003.net (MS05.mailstreet2003.net [63.251.155.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28E643D39 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:14:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@sigd.net) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:13:57 -0500 Message-ID: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC2202AFD133@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Buildworld problems? Thread-Index: AcTmv6vP3aKLfNMXQFuvUU0HYSGL0A== From: "Haulmark, Chris" To: Subject: Buildworld problems? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:14:20 -0000 Hello, I was doing a buildworld cd /usr/src make buildworld after I updated the source tree with cvsup just before I did the = buildworld. I made clean and make buildworld several times to see if = this would go away. It's been like this on last Friday and I thought = some source changes would fix this so I tried today after cvsup. =20 This system is FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE #0. One thing I should acknowledge is that I did build and installed the = kernel right before I did the buildworld. I rebooted so I could use the kernel. All the other binaries are = seeming fine at this moment. I have not made any other major changes. I've done many buildworlds before. Here is the snip of the error which seems relative to lesskey? ln -s /usr/src/usr.bin/lesskey/../../contrib/less/lesskey.nro lesskey.1 gzip -cn lesskey.1 > lesskey.1.gz /usr/src/usr.bin/lesskey/../../contrib/less/lesskey.c:137: = `A_U_AGAIN_SEARCH' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/usr.bin/lesskey/../../contrib/less/lesskey.c:137: initializer = element is not constant /usr/src/usr.bin/lesskey/../../contrib/less/lesskey.c:137: (near = initialization for `cmdnames[41].cn_action') /usr/src/usr.bin/lesskey/../../contrib/less/lesskey.c:170: syntax error = before string constant *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 18:25:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673AA16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:25:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from whoweb.com (whoweb.com [66.180.172.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A1F043D2F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:25:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonw@whoweb.com) Received: from whoweb.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by whoweb.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBKIR60e034376 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:27:06 -0600 (CST) Received: (from root@localhost) by whoweb.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iBKIR64h034375 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:27:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:27:06 -0600 (CST) From: Jonathan Wallace Message-Id: <200412201827.iBKIR64h034375@whoweb.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: headless indicator light X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:25:10 -0000 I'm looking for a way to build an indicator light that shows when the OS is booted and ready on a headless system. Is there a way to do this and do you know of any documentation that explains how to do something like this? Jon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 18:27:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B6D16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:27:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp801.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp801.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B898C43D2D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:27:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.26.30 with login) by smtp801.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2004 18:27:35 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:27:28 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <9a.1c2fb899.2ef7d0f7@aol.com> <20041220142011.GC22922@netophilia.net> <20041220144601.GB18006@vilot.com> In-Reply-To: <20041220144601.GB18006@vilot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412201027.29471.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: NathanKelly31@aol.com cc: Tom Vilot cc: Dan Kilbourne Subject: Re: installing bsd on a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:27:36 -0000 On Monday 20 December 2004 06:46 am, Tom Vilot wrote: > > NathanKelly31@aol.com extolled: > > > hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or > > > openbsd that is available to purchase??? > > I have FreeBSD 5.3 running beautifully on a Dell Inspiron 8200. I have FreeBSD 5.3 running on a Dell Inspiron 3500. IIRC there weren't any problems with the install, but I had to compile in support for my cardbus and ethernet. Since it's just a 300MHz with 128MB, I didn't install xorg at all, but I know from previous experimentation that it will run a smaller wm or desktop alright (xfce4 or smaller), but KDE or Gnome run very slow. I don't really need a gui desktop on it, and it's (generally) quite fast without it. I am tinkering at getting the sound running, but it's not a priority. Haven't yet tried USB, but again it's not a priority. It works the way it is for my needs. You can probably find a used Dell in this model range for very cheap. I wouldn't go lower than the 3500, though, as lower than a 300MHz cpu might be pushing it as far as what you need. As someone else recommended, IBM Thinkpads are quite nice and will usually work, although a bit pricey. If you go that route, try to find a good used one. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 19:16:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D495F16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:16:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from orb.ihr.gla.ac.uk (orb.ihr.gla.ac.uk [194.80.44.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F06043D1F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:16:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steve@ntropy.net) Received: from orb.ihr.gla.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) iBKJGoUp002174 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:16:50 GMT Received: (from www@localhost) by orb.ihr.gla.ac.uk (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/Submit) id iBKJGojJ002173 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:16:50 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: orb.ihr.gla.ac.uk: www set sender to steve@ntropy.net using -f Received: from cpc2-broo2-4-0-cust36.renf.cable.ntl.com (cpc2-broo2-4-0-cust36.renf.cable.ntl.com [81.101.237.36]) by www.ihr.gla.ac.uk (IMP) with HTTP for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:16:49 +0000 Message-ID: <1103570209.41c72521dfa44@www.ihr.gla.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:16:49 +0000 From: Stephen Maver To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 81.101.237.36 Subject: Linux libs missing dependancies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:16:27 -0000 Dear List, I've installed the linux steam client the other day, /usr/ports/games/linux-steam This theoretically allows you to download and run steam based games, such as Halflife and Counter Strike Source. Related ports installed: linux-steam-1.0 Half Life dedicated server running on steam linux_base-7.1_7 The base set of packages needed in Linux mode # uname -a FreeBSD lupus.ntropy.net 5.3-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p2 #1: Sun Dec 5 16:11:09 GMT 2004 ... # kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 10 0xc0400000 39dcf8 kernel 2 14 0xc079e000 537f0 acpi.ko 3 1 0xc15e1000 6000 linprocfs.ko 4 1 0xc15ef000 17000 linux.ko I chanced it and used the linux steam client to download the Counter Strike Source files, with no obvious problems. When I try to run the dedicated server it immediately crashes, probably as it should as it is linux specific I'd guess. $ ./srcds_run -console -game cstrike +map de_dust +maxplayers 16 -steamuser -steampass ------ Auto detecting CPU Using default binary. Auto-restarting the server on crash ./srcds_i486: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/compat/linux/lib/libm.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid Mon Dec 20 17:53:37 GMT 2004: Server restart in 10 seconds ---- # ldd ./srcds_i486 ./srcds_i486: ./srcds_i486: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/libm.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid ./srcds_i486: exit status 127 The binary 'srcds_i486' relies on several other files that have missing dependancies. # ldd bin/dedicated_i486.so bin/dedicated_i486.so: libm.so.6 => not found (0x0) libdl.so.2 => not found (0x0) tier0_i486.so (0x0) vstdlib_i486.so (0x0) libc.so.6 => not found (0x0) All of these libs exist in /usr/compat/linux/lib, and, with the linux emulation running, are seen as being in /lib/* if I understand it all correctly. Also, last night I was trying to use ldd, and suicidal symbolic linking, to show the *so files where their libs were. At one point it failed with an error about being unable to use the libraries as they were not freebsd native. Sorry for the lack of the specific error I am unable to recreate it today. So, the questions are: 1) What would cause the error "ELF file OS ABI invalid" on `ldd ./srcds_i486` above ? 2) How would I go about teaching the linux *.so files where their linux libraries are located ? Pointers to docs, or FMs I should have read, are welcome. I had a look through the manual and googled about on the error, but didnt turn up anything that helped. Thanks, Ste From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 19:19:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299A016A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:19:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc2-cmbg1-3-0-cust94.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [213.107.104.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F33A43D2D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:19:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from danielby by catflap.slightlystrange.org with local (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CgT42-0008gq-DI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:19:26 +0000 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:19:26 +0000 From: Daniel Bye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041220191923.GA32770@catflap.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41C58F92.3060108@uni-mainz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C58F92.3060108@uni-mainz.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 and BIND9 problems! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:19:28 -0000 --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 03:26:26PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: > Dear Sirs. > Compiling PHP 5.0.3 from PHP.NET, PHP 5.0.2 from ./ports collection and= =20 > PHP5-SNAP from php.net fail in compiling in FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE=20 > (cvsupdated and rebuilt today!) with an error that seems to be BIND9=20 > specific: >=20 > ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1d49): In function `.L166': > : undefined reference to `res_ninit' > ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1db5): In function `.L166': > : undefined reference to `res_nmkquery' > ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1de7): In function `.L166': > : undefined reference to `res_nsend' > ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1f6a): In function `.L166': > : undefined reference to `res_nclose' >=20 > I searched the web and mailing lists for this problem and I found out,=20 > that PHP won't compile when FreeBSD 5.x lacks in BIND9. As I know,=20 > FreeBSD 5.3 definitely has BIND9, but why is PHP not compiling the=20 > expected way? /usr/include/resolv.h does not have any definitions for=20 > the above mentioned routines and it seems to be a 'weird' failure, maybe= =20 > something I missed when installing 'world'? You don't by any chance have NO_BIND set in /etc/make.conf? I've been caught out by a similar failure in the past... Dan --=20 Daniel Bye PGP Key: ftp://ftp.slightlystrange.org/pgpkey/dan.asc PGP Key fingerprint: 3B9D 8BBB EB03 BA83 5DB4 3B88 86FC F03A 90A1 BE8F _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBxyW6hvzwOpChvo8RArM0AJ9MWRRRlrQRSGS3VOJGA6av+9y77gCgpqn+ Dzlm0dcE977dns1lGhCKy30= =uIhQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 19:21:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC31116A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:21:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cadmuslabs.net (68.143.26.91.nw.nuvox.net [68.143.26.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41EEE43D58 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:21:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@cadmuslabs.net) Received: from cadmuslabs.net (nobody@localhost.e-comsultant.net [127.0.0.1]) by cadmuslabs.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iBKJLgpL018718 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:21:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nobody@cadmuslabs.net) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by cadmuslabs.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.8/Submit) id iBKJLg1H018712; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:21:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nobody) From: "Dementia " Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:21:38 +0000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <0.07991700.1103570502@e-comsultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Description: messagebody X-Mailer: ISMail (http://www.insidesystems.net/projects/project.php?projectid=4) X-Mailer-Version: v2.0-pre4 Subject: Problem installing port with freetype 2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:21:43 -0000 I have this error when trying to install phpmyadmin: In file included from /usr/ports/graphics/php4-gd/work/php-4.3.10/ext/gd/libgd/gdft.c:65: /usr/local/include/freetype2/freetype/ftglyph.h:40: #error "freetype.h of FreeType 1 has been loaded!" /usr/local/include/freetype2/freetype/ftglyph.h:41: #error "Please fix the directory search order for header files" /usr/local/include/freetype2/freetype/ftglyph.h:42: #error "so that freetype.h of FreeType 2 is found first." How (and where) is it that I fix the directory search order for header files? Thanks, ST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 19:42:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B9E16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:42:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8847843D46 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:42:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost.circlesquared.com [IPv6:::1]) iBKJgA6r032834; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:42:11 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Message-ID: <41C72B12.5080802@circlesquared.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:42:10 +0000 From: Peter Risdon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041219 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vincent Chen References: <20041220033653.12809.qmail@web54403.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20041220033653.12809.qmail@web54403.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with intel pro/100 S 82550 adapter on freebsd 4.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:42:09 -0000 Vincent Chen wrote: > Hi, all > > I tried to install a intel pro/100 S desktop adapter w/ 82550 chip on my > freebsd 4.7 release. Since my custom kernel has no fxp driver compiled. I edit > /boot/loader.conf and add a line: > > if_fxp_load="YES" > > After reboot, freebsd can identify this adapter as fxp0. But system reboot > while trying to ifconfig it. Does 4.7 release support this adapter? if so, how > can I get it work correctly? > > > Thanks, > > Vincent Chen I'm not sure about this exact chipset but have found that to support the more recent intel pro 100 adapters you do need to use a more recent version of FreeBSD, and would really recommend 5.3 HTH. Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 19:47:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B3616A51E for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:47:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cauexcnt001smtp.unibanco.com.br (ubbsmtp08.unibanco.com.br [200.174.81.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A29143D41 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:47:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcio.mallavazzi@unibanco.com.br) Received: from cauuni2k005com.unibanco ([10.44.60.243]) by cauexcnt001smtp.unibanco.com.br with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:50:10 -0300 Received: from cauuni2k002com.unibanco ([10.44.60.58]) by cauuni2k005com.unibanco with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:48:17 -0300 Received: from cauuni2k000msg.unibanco ([10.44.60.54]) by cauuni2k002com.unibanco with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:48:17 -0300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:48:17 -0300 Message-ID: <3B5700417F70BA4CA7D2EA98375EF64003157033@CAUUNI2K000MSG.unibanco> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Question about FreeBSD 5.3 Thread-Index: AcTm1Tt2tXdyIu1dQ/SVkkr8uIepSQ== From: "Marcio Cardenuto Mallavazzi" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2004 20:48:17.0786 (UTC) FILETIME=[3BBCADA0:01C4E6D5] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Question about FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:47:50 -0000 Hello all! =20 I have a doubt about FreeBSD 5.3. What is it: a Stable or a Release version? I'm sorry if this is a Dumb Question, but I guess it's a Stable Version. Specially because it's a Production Release. =20 TIA, =20 Marcio. Esta mensagem pode conter informacao confidencial e/ou privilegiada. Se = voce nao for o destinatario ou a pessoa autorizada a receber esta = mensagem, nao pode usar, copiar ou divulgar as informacoes nela contidas = ou tomar qualquer acao baseada nessas informacoes. Se voce recebeu esta = mensagem por engano, por favor avise imediatamente o remetente, = respondendo o e-mail e em seguida apague-o. Agradecemos sua cooperacao. This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If = you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the = addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on = this message or any information herein. If you have received this = message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail = and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 20:03:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E903816A4F4 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:03:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from allrounder.lame.at (mail.lame.at [195.58.166.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BCA43D46 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:03:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from haimat@lame.at) Received: from itchy.lame.at (home.lame.at [80.78.254.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by allrounder.lame.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA0830151 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:03:02 +0100 (CET) From: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:03:00 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <41C2CF1A.8090207@cartoon-film.de> In-Reply-To: <41C2CF1A.8090207@cartoon-film.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412202103.01069.haimat@lame.at> Subject: Re: RAID0 problem array broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:03:06 -0000 ---------- quoting Karsten Fuhrmann ---------- > But now my ar0 stripe will not be recognised anymore. > /var/log/messages showed this : > Dec 17 03:24:44 darkstar kernel: ad6: FAILURE - ATA_IDENTIFY timed out > Dec 17 03:24:49 darkstar kernel: ad6: FAILURE - ATA_IDENTIFY timed out > Dec 17 03:24:49 darkstar kernel: ad6: deleted from ar0 disk1 > Dec 17 03:24:49 darkstar kernel: ar0: ERROR - array broken > Dec 17 03:24:49 darkstar kernel: ad6: WARNING - removed from > configuration Dec 17 03:24:49 darkstar kernel: ar0: ERROR - array broken I had a very similar problem with a RAID1 on a raid hardware controller. I managed to re-build the broken array from within the controller's BIOS during bootup. It seems this error comes from the broken DMA support on 5.3, so I disabled DMA for my disks on this server via sysctl. Hey guys, what's the status of this DMA issue? Greetings, Matthias -- As I got up in front of them, I felt an intoxication that had nothing to do with alcohol. It was the intoxication of being a public spectacle. -- Homer Simpson Dancin' Homer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 20:04:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A156C16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:04:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7316D43D4C for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:04:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3BA388C63; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:04:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:04:22 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Scott Bennett , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200412201721.iBKHL1qr029588@mp.cs.niu.edu> References: <200412201721.iBKHL1qr029588@mp.cs.niu.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: ifconfig for WLAN using WEP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:04:23 -0000 --On Monday, December 20, 2004 11:21:01 AM -0600 Scott Bennett wrote: > > I wasn't combining them. Here's some background information: the > only "connected" interface at the time of the ifconfig shown above is the > loopback. The ethernet interface is "UP" but not physically connected to > anything. The wireless interface is not "UP" and not previously > configured for anything. > As I wrote before, the problem is that *any* WEP-related terms given > to the ifconfig command result in the error message being returned. > You'll get that error message if you try to use wep commands on a non-wireless interface. I wonder if your system is detecting the wireless NIC and has the correct drivers for it? fwe0 should be a ethernet over firewire interface. What type of wireless NIC are you using? Your wireless interface should be something like an0 or wi0, etc. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 20:05:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E0016A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:05:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from allrounder.lame.at (mail.lame.at [195.58.166.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8CC43D31 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:05:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from haimat@lame.at) Received: from itchy.lame.at (home.lame.at [80.78.254.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by allrounder.lame.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C766300D5 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:05:09 +0100 (CET) From: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:05:06 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20041218074349.GA58631@skytracker.ca> In-Reply-To: <20041218074349.GA58631@skytracker.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412202105.06748.haimat@lame.at> Subject: Re: traffic volume monitoring - what program X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:05:11 -0000 ---------- quoting David Banning ---------- > I am looking at a new ISP that charges for a certain number > gigabites of traffic. I have -no- idea what my traffic volume > is. > > Can anyone recommend a good traffic volume checker in the > ports? I only found ipac-ng for Linux based IPTABLES firewalls. But none so far for *BSD firewalls :( Any ideas? -- As far as anyone knows we're a nice, normal family. -- Homer Simpson There's No Disgrace Like Home From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 20:12:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C6316A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:12:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67C043D41 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:12:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from [192.168.1.77] (c-24-8-184-241.client.comcast.net [24.8.184.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBKK9dnL029377 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:09:40 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Message-ID: <41C72EFF.4040002@vilot.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:58:55 -0700 From: Tom Vilot Organization: 3Dimentia, Incorporated User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Skype? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:12:17 -0000 Has anyone managed to get Skype running (I would presume using Linux emulation) on FreeBSD? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 20:21:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1273016A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:21:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.nemschoff.com (smtp.Nemschoff.com [64.179.52.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730B443D5A for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:21:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from MClark@Nemschoff.com) Received: from EMAILSERVER2.nemschoff.com ([10.10.11.20]) by smtp.nemschoff.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:23:56 -0600 Received: by EMAILSERVER2.nemschoff.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:24:44 -0600 Message-ID: From: Michael Clark To: 'Marcio Cardenuto Mallavazzi' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:24:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2004 20:23:56.0195 (UTC) FILETIME=[D48F9730:01C4E6D1] Subject: RE: Question about FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:21:29 -0000 5.3 is the Production/stable release. It is no longer a "New Technology" release. > -----Original Message----- > From: Marcio Cardenuto Mallavazzi > [mailto:marcio.mallavazzi@unibanco.com.br] > Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 2:48 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Question about FreeBSD 5.3 > > > Hello all! > > I have a doubt about FreeBSD 5.3. What is it: a Stable or a Release > version? > I'm sorry if this is a Dumb Question, but I guess it's a > Stable Version. > Specially because it's a Production Release. > > TIA, > > Marcio. > > Esta mensagem pode conter informacao confidencial e/ou > privilegiada. Se voce nao for o destinatario ou a pessoa > autorizada a receber esta mensagem, nao pode usar, copiar ou > divulgar as informacoes nela contidas ou tomar qualquer acao > baseada nessas informacoes. Se voce recebeu esta mensagem por > engano, por favor avise imediatamente o remetente, > respondendo o e-mail e em seguida apague-o. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 20:22:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F67116A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:22:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C99B43D53 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:22:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ph.schulz@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 20 Dec 2004 20:22:47 -0000 Received: from dsl-082-082-079-246.arcor-ip.net (EHLO [192.168.1.5]) (82.82.79.246) by mail.gmx.net (mp010) with SMTP; 20 Dec 2004 21:22:47 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1954550 Message-ID: <41C73486.9070100@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:22:30 +0100 From: Phil Schulz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041121 X-Accept-Language: de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Vilot References: <41C72EFF.4040002@vilot.com> In-Reply-To: <41C72EFF.4040002@vilot.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Skype? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:22:49 -0000 Tom Vilot wrote: > Has anyone managed to get Skype running (I would presume using Linux > emulation) on FreeBSD? There is a port in net/skype which I had running for a day or two. I had to uninstall it since I need to use Maple 8 which doesn't work with the version of linux_base skype requires. Maybe it's even possible to run them both at the same time but I didn't care enough to even attempt to solve the issues. If you already tried the skype port then you'll need to give more information. hth, Phil From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 20:25:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C645416A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:25:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A23143D58 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:25:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from [192.168.1.77] (c-24-8-184-241.client.comcast.net [24.8.184.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBKKMP24030563 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:22:26 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Message-ID: <41C731FD.1090201@vilot.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:11:41 -0700 From: Tom Vilot Organization: 3Dimentia, Incorporated User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41C72EFF.4040002@vilot.com> <41C73486.9070100@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <41C73486.9070100@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Skype? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:25:02 -0000 Phil Schulz wrote: > Tom Vilot wrote: > >> Has anyone managed to get Skype running (I would presume using Linux >> emulation) on FreeBSD? > > > There is a port in net/skype which I had running for a day or two. I > had to uninstall it since I need to use Maple 8 which doesn't work > with the version of linux_base skype requires. Maybe it's even > possible to run them both at the same time but I didn't care enough > to even attempt to solve the issues. > If you already tried the skype port then you'll need to give more > information. My bad. I didn't even *know* there was a skype port. I was trying to get the stuff on the skype site, which I downloaded, to run. I'll try the port From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 20:26:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36FB16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:26:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.uol.com.br (smtpout6.uol.com.br [200.221.4.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4035743D53 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:26:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from giulianocm@uol.com.br) Received: from [201.1.134.92] (unknown [201.1.134.92]) by scorpion6.uol.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22F970D97; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:20:19 -0200 (BRST) Message-ID: <41C733FC.70502@uol.com.br> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:20:12 -0200 From: Giuliano Cardozo Medalha Organization: WZTECH User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Vilot References: <41C72EFF.4040002@vilot.com> In-Reply-To: <41C72EFF.4040002@vilot.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Skype? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: giulianocm@uol.com.br List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:26:10 -0000 Tom, I am using skype in FreeBsd-5.3-p2. The only think that you have to configure is (generic kernel): /etc/rc.conf: linux_enable="YES" after that you can find skype: whereis skype go to /usr/ports/.../skype make install clean My only problem is about microfone using KDE. Its not working. Att, Giuliano From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 20:28:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E82416A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:28:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2BF43D55 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:28:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8DDBD5150B; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:28:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:28:11 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Dementia " Message-ID: <20041220202811.GA91265@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <0.07991700.1103570502@e-comsultant.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0.07991700.1103570502@e-comsultant.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem installing port with freetype 2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:28:12 -0000 --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 07:21:38PM +0000, Dementia wrote: > I have this error when trying to install phpmyadmin: >=20 > In file included from /usr/ports/graphics/php4-gd/work/php-4.3.10/ext/gd/= libgd/gdft.c:65: > /usr/local/include/freetype2/freetype/ftglyph.h:40: #error "freetype.h of= FreeType 1 has been loaded!" > /usr/local/include/freetype2/freetype/ftglyph.h:41: #error "Please fix th= e directory search order for header files" > /usr/local/include/freetype2/freetype/ftglyph.h:42: #error "so that freet= ype.h of FreeType 2 is found first." >=20 > How (and where) is it that I fix the directory search order for header fi= les? Please search the archives for a lot of discussion of this. The short answer is that you need to remove stale freetype files from your system before you can update. Kris --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBxzXZWry0BWjoQKURAlJuAJ4uG2gw/CkJP2hSY30lNyI7PRAlSgCfTkp2 IFSeHFBlAFJe89//r+ceTmg= =GfOq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 20:31:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5FD16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:31:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (smtp1.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D92443D1F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:31:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.tsgincorporated.com [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A123A73E6; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:31:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtp1.tsgincorporated.com ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 80705-05; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:30:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtp3.tsgincorporated.com (radsubmit.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.9]) by smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210D63A73EB; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:30:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from micheal (micheal.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.77]) by smtp3.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 13E4C6289A; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:30:56 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <04eb01c4e6d2$cf175530$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> From: "Micheal Patterson" To: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" , References: <20041218074349.GA58631@skytracker.ca> <200412202105.06748.haimat@lame.at> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:30:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tsgincorporated.com Subject: Re: traffic volume monitoring - what program X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:31:05 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" To: Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 2:05 PM Subject: Re: traffic volume monitoring - what program > ---------- quoting David Banning ---------- > > I am looking at a new ISP that charges for a certain number > > gigabites of traffic. I have -no- idea what my traffic volume > > is. > > > > Can anyone recommend a good traffic volume checker in the > > ports? > > I only found ipac-ng for Linux based IPTABLES firewalls. > But none so far for *BSD firewalls :( > > Any ideas? > > -- > As far as anyone knows we're a nice, normal family. > > -- Homer Simpson > There's No Disgrace Like Home Can't MRTG get you close enough for that wouldn't it? -- Micheal Patterson Senior Communications Systems Engineer 405-917-0600 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 20:31:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB6B16A4CF for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:31:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (ns1.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3764143D5C for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:31:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.tsgincorporated.com [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15223A73EB; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:31:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtp1.tsgincorporated.com ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 80732-06; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:30:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtp3.tsgincorporated.com (support.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.9]) by smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112F03A73DF; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:30:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from micheal (micheal.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.77]) by smtp3.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E06262899; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:30:56 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <04ea01c4e6d2$cf129a40$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> From: "Micheal Patterson" To: "Stephen Maver" , References: <1103570209.41c72521dfa44@www.ihr.gla.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:26:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tsgincorporated.com Subject: Re: Linux libs missing dependancies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:31:05 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Maver" To: Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 1:16 PM Subject: Linux libs missing dependancies > Dear List, > > I've installed the linux steam client the other day, > > /usr/ports/games/linux-steam > > This theoretically allows you to download and run steam based games, > such as Halflife and Counter Strike Source. > > Related ports installed: > linux-steam-1.0 Half Life dedicated server running on steam > linux_base-7.1_7 The base set of packages needed in Linux mode > > # uname -a > FreeBSD lupus.ntropy.net 5.3-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p2 #1: > Sun Dec 5 16:11:09 GMT 2004 ... > > # kldstat > Id Refs Address Size Name > 1 10 0xc0400000 39dcf8 kernel > 2 14 0xc079e000 537f0 acpi.ko > 3 1 0xc15e1000 6000 linprocfs.ko > 4 1 0xc15ef000 17000 linux.ko > > I chanced it and used the linux steam client to download the Counter > Strike Source files, with no obvious problems. > > When I try to run the dedicated server it immediately crashes, > probably as it should as it is linux specific I'd guess. > > $ ./srcds_run -console -game cstrike +map de_dust +maxplayers 16 > -steamuser -steampass > ------ > Auto detecting CPU > Using default binary. > Auto-restarting the server on crash > ./srcds_i486: error while loading shared libraries: > /usr/compat/linux/lib/libm.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid > Mon Dec 20 17:53:37 GMT 2004: Server restart in 10 seconds > ---- > > # ldd ./srcds_i486 > ./srcds_i486: > ./srcds_i486: error while loading shared libraries: > /lib/libm.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid > ./srcds_i486: exit status 127 > > The binary 'srcds_i486' relies on several other files that > have missing dependancies. > > # ldd bin/dedicated_i486.so > bin/dedicated_i486.so: > libm.so.6 => not found (0x0) > libdl.so.2 => not found (0x0) > tier0_i486.so (0x0) > vstdlib_i486.so (0x0) > libc.so.6 => not found (0x0) > > All of these libs exist in /usr/compat/linux/lib, and, with > the linux emulation running, are seen as being in /lib/* if I > understand it all correctly. > > Also, last night I was trying to use ldd, and suicidal symbolic > linking, to show the *so files where their libs were. At one > point it failed with an error about being unable to use the > libraries as they were not freebsd native. > > Sorry for the lack of the specific error I am unable to > recreate it today. > > So, the questions are: > > 1) What would cause the error "ELF file OS ABI invalid" on > `ldd ./srcds_i486` above ? > > 2) How would I go about teaching the linux *.so files where > their linux libraries are located ? > > Pointers to docs, or FMs I should have read, are welcome. I > had a look through the manual and googled about on the error, > but didnt turn up anything that helped. > > Thanks, > > Ste > This is my post to the hlds_linux list on how to get Source running on FreeBSD. Hopefully it will get you where you need to go. -- Micheal Patterson Senior Communications Systems Engineer 405-917-0600 ----------------------------------------------------- Micheal Patterson hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Fri Aug 20 05:08:02 2004 Previous message: [hlds_linux] CS:S and FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE Next message: [hlds_linux] CS:S and FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Ok folks.. Here's what I did to get Source running on FreeBSD 4.10 with an Intel cpu. AMD should be no different system wise. 1. Install source :) 2. Install the Linux_base-8 port. Once this is done, run: shell$> ldconfig -m /compat/linux/lib ** This merges the linux compat lib paths into your existing environment and is what allows source to locate lib.so.6 3. Then recompile your kernel with the following options: ## SSE/MMX2 instructions support options CPU_ENABLE_SSE ** This allows source to determine your CPU speed. 3. Reboot Log back into the account you installed steam to, and execute: ./srcds_run -game cstrike +ip xx.xx.xx.xx -port 27015 +maxplayers 20 +map de_dust This procedure worked for me with a clean freebsd 4.10 install and no linux base. If you have linux base 7 installed, you'll need to run a pkg_delete linux_base-7.1_7 before base 8 will install. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 20:55:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F7316A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:55:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97FBF43D55 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:55:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from runaround.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07621 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:55:56 -0700 (MST) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20041220135549.05fdaa88@localhost> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:55:54 -0700 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: ECC status in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:55:59 -0000 I'm getting ready to build some (hopefully) high reliability servers with ECC memory. I'd like to put FreeBSD on them. What facilities (if any) does FreeBSD have for: 1) Reporting the status of ECC memory (errors corrected, errors uncorrected, etc.)? 2) Responding to uncorrectable errors? 3) Mapping out portions of memory that produce repeated errors? It seems to me that, for an operating system that prides itself on server stability and performance, such features are a must. --Brett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 21:16:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B666216A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:16:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxsf38.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf38.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0A743D49 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:16:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bobself@charter.net) Received: from mxip04.cluster1.charter.net (mxip04a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.134])iBKLGRGw024947 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:16:27 -0500 Received: from res-24-177-224-065.spa.sc.charter.com (HELO [192.168.1.102]) (24.177.224.65) by mxip04.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 20 Dec 2004 16:16:22 -0500 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.88,76,1102309200"; d="scan'208"; a="507212924:sNHT13661176920" Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.289 [265.5.4]); Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:16:21 -0500 Message-ID: <41C74125.4040807@charter.net> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:16:21 -0500 From: bob User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Subject: php5.0.3_1 doesn't run after update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:16:28 -0000 I am running 4.10 stable. I upgraded to php5.0.3_1 by: cvsup portsdb -Uu pkgdb -vuf portupgrade -v php5-session portupgrade -v php5-mysql ... portupgrade -v php5 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library /usr/local/lib/php/20041030/session.so I get the same messages for the 12 modules that I updated. In /usr/local/lib/php I have: drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1536 Dec 20 13:58 20040412 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Dec 20 14:00 build drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Sep 15 10:31 pear Now much of php doesn't work. How do you fix this? What did I do wrong to cause this to happen? Jim -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.5.4 - Release Date: 12/15/2004 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 21:17:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894D416A4CF for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:17:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319F343D2D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:17:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (c-24-8-184-241.client.comcast.net [24.8.184.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBKLFMkQ033109 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:15:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Message-ID: <41C7416D.5080800@vilot.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:17:33 -0700 From: Tom Vilot User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041016) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Boot Loader (repost) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:17:59 -0000 I installed 5.3 on a Dell Inspiron 8200 (and am thoroughly pleased). Can I change / remove the boot loader now, after I've done all this? I would basically like to get rid of it, so that it just boots into FreeBSD. There are no other OSs on here. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 21:43:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0BB16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:43:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 9.hellooperator.net (cpc3-cdif2-3-0-cust202.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.32.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8131443D41 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:43:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputin@hellooperator.net) Received: from rasputin by 9.hellooperator.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1CgVJY-0002LQ-Hk; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:43:36 +0000 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:43:36 +0000 From: Dick Davies To: Ruben de Groot Message-ID: <20041220214336.GB21442@lb.tenfour> References: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> <20041220120620.GA68520@duplo.dahoam> <20041220133252.GB7774@lb.tenfour> <20041220145227.GA24495@ei.bzerk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041220145227.GA24495@ei.bzerk.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: Dick Davies cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dick Davies List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:43:38 -0000 * Ruben de Groot [1250 14:50]: > > Using a shell not contained in the root filesystem can cause problems > even when not in single user mode. There are enough examples in the archives. Indulge me with an example? -- 'When the door hits you in the ass on the way out, clean off the smudge your ass leaves, please' -- Alien loves Predator Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 21:46:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026F016A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:46:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx0.metrocast.net (coltrane-mx.metrocast.net [65.175.128.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3884143D31 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:46:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbarbieri@metrocast.net) Received: (qmail 10705 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2004 21:46:09 -0000 Received: from xwing.jbarbieri.net (HELO ?10.10.100.109?) (65.175.136.163) by coltrane-mx.metrocast.net with SMTP; 20 Dec 2004 21:46:09 -0000 Message-ID: <41C7481D.90302@metrocast.net> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:46:05 -0500 From: John Barbieri User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" References: <41C2CF1A.8090207@cartoon-film.de> <200412202103.01069.haimat@lame.at> In-Reply-To: <200412202103.01069.haimat@lame.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RAID0 problem array broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:46:11 -0000 I am also having this problem under FreeBSD 5.3. IDE RAID is HPT372 and SATA is Silicon Image 3114 dmesg shows: ad1: 19073MB [38752/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA100 acd0: CDRW at ata1-master PIO4 ad4: 190782MB [387621/16/63] at ata2-master SATA150 ad10: 190782MB [387621/16/63] at ata5-master SATA150 ad12: 190782MB [387621/16/63] at ata6-master UDMA100 ar0: ERROR - array broken ar0: 381564MB [48642/255/63] status: BROKEN subdisks: disk0 READY on ad12 at ata6-master disk1 DOWN no device found for this disk First, the two SATAs are supposed to be a RAID0 array, but FreeBSD does not see them that way, so i have not played with any partitioning. ad12: 190782MB [387621/16/63] at ata6-master UDMA100<< Thats one of the drives for the RAID, but the second drive is not showing up, what gives? The BIOS for the card can see it, but not FreeBSD. In FreeBSD 4.x, the IDE RAID works fine, but I cant get the SATA Raid to work. Its always that way, I can get one work, but not the other. I need an OS that can do both :( what was the command you useed to disable the DMA? I want to give that a shot to. I see that its sysctl, but what were the flags. Thanks, John Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: >---------- quoting Karsten Fuhrmann ---------- > > >>But now my ar0 stripe will not be recognised anymore. >>/var/log/messages showed this : >>Dec 17 03:24:44 darkstar kernel: ad6: FAILURE - ATA_IDENTIFY timed out >>Dec 17 03:24:49 darkstar kernel: ad6: FAILURE - ATA_IDENTIFY timed out >>Dec 17 03:24:49 darkstar kernel: ad6: deleted from ar0 disk1 >>Dec 17 03:24:49 darkstar kernel: ar0: ERROR - array broken >>Dec 17 03:24:49 darkstar kernel: ad6: WARNING - removed from >>configuration Dec 17 03:24:49 darkstar kernel: ar0: ERROR - array broken >> >> > >I had a very similar problem with a RAID1 on a raid hardware controller. I >managed to re-build the broken array from within the controller's BIOS >during bootup. > >It seems this error comes from the broken DMA support on 5.3, so I disabled >DMA for my disks on this server via sysctl. > >Hey guys, what's the status of this DMA issue? > >Greetings, Matthias > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 21:55:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F6E216A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:55:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021DC43D39 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:55:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id iBKLsrt13676; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:54:53 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200412202154.iBKLsrt13676@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: tom@vilot.com (Tom Vilot) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:54:51 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <41C6EE24.4080606@vilot.com> from "Tom Vilot" at Dec 20, 2004 08:22:12 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:55:00 -0000 > > >Using a shell not contained in the root filesystem can cause problems > >even when not in single user mode. There are enough examples in the archives. > > > Admittedly, I'm still a bit of a noob, but I can't stand any shell but > bash. > > >>I really don't get what the problem is with this 'sh is on the root' argument. > >>Using bash is a lot more productive for many people, so why not let them use it? > >> > >No problem for people to be productive with bash or whatever shell they > >prefer. Just not for root. You should not even use the root account unless > >absolutely necessary. > > > Ya mean like ... > > ... editing /etc/rc.conf > ... installing a port or package > ... updating the ports tree and/or running portupgrade > ... configuring the firewall > ... backing up the file system > ... checking /var/log files for attempts at cracking > ... reading root's email > ... rsyncing to a remote server > > I would be curious how I could do any of the above as someone other than > root. Then the thing to do is create another root account and make the default shell for that one be bash, leaving the root root be /bin/sh. Then, just use the other account for all that stuff, and keep the root root pristine for disasters. Alternatively, while you are logged in as the root root and the needed file systems are mounted, type '/usr/local/bin/bash' or whatever path it is installed as and viola you have bash. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 21:56:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2521516A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:56:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 9.hellooperator.net (cpc3-cdif2-3-0-cust202.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.32.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD44A43D49 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:56:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputin@hellooperator.net) Received: from rasputin by 9.hellooperator.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1CgVVk-0000of-Nd; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:56:12 +0000 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:56:12 +0000 From: Dick Davies To: David Landgren Message-ID: <20041220215612.GC21442@lb.tenfour> References: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> <20041220120620.GA68520@duplo.dahoam> <20041220133252.GB7774@lb.tenfour> <41C70EAB.2000302@landgren.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C70EAB.2000302@landgren.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: Dick Davies cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dick Davies List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:56:14 -0000 * David Landgren [1241 17:41]: > Dick Davies wrote: > >To the original poster: just be root and run 'chsh'. > > No. > > When you are logged in as root, you *should* have to go through extra > hoops to get comfortable. On my box I have a # prompt to tell me I'm root. I don't sit on a drawing pin when I su just to remind me I have godly powers, and I don't see why I should be banging zeroes together to get ones when I can be more productive (and therefore spend less time with escalated privileges) in bash. > I am not saying that you should not use bash when logged in as root. I > am saying that you should not configure your root account to login with > shell that is dysfunctional if /usr is unmounted. Look, if /usr is unmounted and you are logged in, you are on the console : root@bingo gdm2 # which sshd /usr/sbin/sshd so you may as well be single user and pick the shell you want. If /usr is hosed, run /bin/*sh. What's the problem? >Yes, 'exec zsh' or > whatever is a minor hassle, but it's there to remind you that root is > different. Sorry, but this is just dogma. Give me a benefit of not changing roots shell that isn't either: a) csh is really shitty, so encourages you not to su b) if your shell is in /usr you will be screwed if /usr is unmounted c) 'bash is for teh lam0rs' ( ok no-ones explicitly mentioned this yet, but admit it, it entered your head :) ) or let's just drop it. This thread has come back from the dead more than Captain Scarlet, it just gets my goat everytime I hear the same dubious arguments. -- 'Everyone's always in favour of saving Hitler's brain, but when you put it in the body of a Great White shark suddenly you've gone too far..' -- Prof. Farnsworth Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 22:00:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1519916A4CF for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:00:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay19-f35.bay19.hotmail.com [64.4.53.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1AE943D46 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:00:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from romil_ce@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:00:03 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 63.107.133.65 by by19fd.bay19.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:59:53 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.107.133.65] X-Originating-Email: [romil_ce@hotmail.com] X-Sender: romil_ce@hotmail.com From: "Romil Shah" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 03:29:53 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2004 22:00:03.0431 (UTC) FILETIME=[4219F770:01C4E6DF] Subject: Core Dump not available X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:00:04 -0000 Hi, I am using the Adaptec aac 2200S controller , if the system crashes no core dump is genertated. Is there any bug fixes for this , i am using old FreeBSD version 4.5. I found some bug fixes in 5.0 ver of FreeBSD . So is it possible to port this changes back to 4.5. Thanks, Romil . _________________________________________________________________ Pep up your screen! Kickstart your day! http://www.msn.co.in/Cinema/screensaver/ Get these vibrant screensavers! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 22:08:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678CD16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:08:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F7B43D41 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:08:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0F8F3512C4; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:08:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:08:02 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Romil Shah Message-ID: <20041220220802.GA18384@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Core Dump not available X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:08:04 -0000 --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 03:29:53AM +0530, Romil Shah wrote: >=20 >=20 > Hi, > I am using the Adaptec aac 2200S controller , if the system crashes no= =20 > core dump is genertated. Is there any bug fixes for this , i am using old= =20 > FreeBSD version 4.5. I found some bug fixes in 5.0 ver of FreeBSD . So is= =20 > it possible to port this changes back to 4.5. It may be possible, but I doubt you'll get any volunteers to do this for you. Instead you should verify that the bug isn't in your local configuration. Setting up crashdumps is documented in the handbook; if you need more help, post more details about your system configuration (i.e. what you've tried so far, and what errors you've received). Alternatively, if you're convinced this is an OS bug, you should consider updating to a modern version of FreeBSD. Kris --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBx01BWry0BWjoQKURAtItAJ9pr4bZ7GuQtV455Y7gR35K7sZ4bQCePH/K FgNh+6llpyKlnZe095i/ybk= =DQQD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 22:15:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256C916A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:15:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.minutemenu.com (mail.minutemenu.com [69.93.74.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B474743D5F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:15:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jreeder@minutemenu.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.minutemenu.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.minutemenu.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FCC822887E for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:11:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail.minutemenu.com ([69.93.74.12]) by localhost (lisa.minutemenu.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 69589-02 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:10:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from jreed (unknown [216.138.72.218]) by mail.minutemenu.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F62D22859C for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:10:59 -0600 (CST) From: "Jonathan Reeder" To: Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:28:51 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.minutemenu.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Dell CERC SATA 2S question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:15:50 -0000 I just got a Dell PowerEdge SC420 (or something like that) with the CERC SATA 2S RAID. When the server boots, the Adaptec utility tells me that I have one array configured, a RAID 1 with 2 drives. However, when I launch the 5.3 installer and go to Allocate Disk Space options, it sees two drives rather than the single RAID array. The two drives it sees are ad4 and ad6. I get an error when I select either of them, saying: "A geometry of 310019/16/63 for ad(4|6) is incorrect. Using a more likely geometry..." Any thoughts on how I can get FreeBSD to see my SATA array as an array rather than as two separate drives? Thanks a bunch. Jonathan Reeder From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 22:25:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBFBD16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:25:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D56F43D45 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:25:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id iBKMPhIU019721; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:25:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw1.codefab.com [199.103.21.225]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin07/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id iBKMPfDE010287; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:25:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20041220135549.05fdaa88@localhost> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20041220135549.05fdaa88@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <137C9E12-52D6-11D9-9340-003065ABFD92@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:25:38 -0500 To: Brett Glass X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ECC status in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:25:43 -0000 On Dec 20, 2004, at 3:55 PM, Brett Glass wrote: > I'm getting ready to build some (hopefully) high reliability servers > with > ECC memory. I'd like to put FreeBSD on them. What facilities (if any) > does > FreeBSD have for: > > 1) Reporting the status of ECC memory (errors corrected, errors > uncorrected, etc.)? > 2) Responding to uncorrectable errors? A quick check of the archives suggests a FreeBSD version of a kernel module which pays attention to the ECC status of various chipsets is available from: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=113348+0+archive/2001/ freebsd-hackers/20010318.freebsd-hackers ...based on the work for Linux at: http://www.anime.net/~goemon/linux-ecc/ > 3) Mapping out portions of memory that produce repeated errors? You can set an option in the loader to limit the physical memory available to FreeBSD, which could serve the purpose. However, your RAM isn't a hard drive, so the ad-sector remapping used by hard drives is not fully applicable. Your machine is expected not to have any part of memory fail reproducably, but if you do, it's time to use the warranty and replace the entire chip. > It seems to me that, for an operating system that prides itself on > server > stability and performance, such features are a must. ECC is a fine idea, but the motherboard chipset pretty much does everything that is required (except for the reporting/syslogging), so the kernel doesn't need to be specially involved for the system to benefit from ECC protection. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 22:33:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3F216A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:33:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A811C43D45 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:33:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from donnex@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so26467wri for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:33:33 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=LHc5Qe7x79ZS+gqWRsdbQXYLPgN1Y1RDYxFjfBXkrP6mVSR5u7IbHr5UV9Y6vjCwIw3CbA6KfN2oNfM+VfRYIF/3qLaTRunwQyApdUmeLl21Ls1RoRQmjjeGzxoavGM3I4yKiW2S1BqPhLxArDpSdQSy9T40BjMqjC2i2VuWN9E= Received: by 10.54.53.39 with SMTP id b39mr196333wra; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:33:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.29.63 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:33:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2a37e1ef04122014336d489e29@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:33:33 +0100 From: Daniel Johansson To: Joshua Lokken In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <2a37e1ef0412191423786ac08a@mail.gmail.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Do I have to rebuild my jails too when I rebuild the server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Johansson List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:33:35 -0000 Okay, thank you but that page didn't help very much. I know how to rebuild and update the server, and I've done it many times but what I need to know is if I must rebuild my jails to when I rebuild the server. Maby the hostsystem and the jail gets out of sync? On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:31:04 -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote: > On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:23:26 +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: > > I'm a big fan of jails and use three on my server. I also try to keep > > my server up to date and I rebuild it frequently but when I rebuild my > > server, update to the latest version, do I also have to rebuild my > > jails? > > > > Can I have a jail built with 4.10 and use it without problems in 4.11 and so on? > > I do not have a specific answer to that question, however, this doc may > help you determine what you need to do: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-August/055091.html > > > -- > Joshua Lokken > Open Source Advocate > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 22:34:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3551D16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:34:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.itconnect.no (mail.itconnect.no [80.89.32.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14DEC43D46 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:34:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roger@audioweb.no) Received: from [192.168.1.204] (oenk7.dsl.itconnect.no [80.89.37.17] (may be forged)) by mail.itconnect.no (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iBKMY4VP022505; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:34:05 +0100 Message-ID: <41C7525A.7020509@audioweb.no> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:29:46 +0100 From: "Roger. O. Svenning" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: nb, no, nn MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Reeder References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ITCMAIL-MailScanner-Information: Denne e-posten har passert itConnect AS sin virus vask (internett@itconnect.no) X-ITCMAIL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: roger@audioweb.no cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell CERC SATA 2S question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:34:19 -0000 Jonathan Reeder wrote: >I just got a Dell PowerEdge SC420 (or something like that) with the CERC >SATA 2S RAID. When the server boots, the Adaptec utility tells me that I >have one array configured, a RAID 1 with 2 drives. However, when I launch >the 5.3 installer and go to Allocate Disk Space options, it sees two drives >rather than the single RAID array. The two drives it sees are ad4 and ad6. >I get an error when I select either of them, saying: > > RAID on your SATA controller are not supported by FreeBSD. If supported you'd see the array as ar0 along with the ad(4|6) entries. >"A geometry of 310019/16/63 for ad(4|6) is incorrect. Using a more likely >geometry..." > > > This is quite normal >Any thoughts on how I can get FreeBSD to see my SATA array as an array >rather than as two separate drives? > > Get a supported SATA controller. I'm using the HighPoint Rocketraid 15xx ones, tho there seem to be some speed issues as I get very low transfer speeds on the arrays. Roger O. Svenning From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 22:38:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6A216A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:38:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53901.mail.yahoo.com (web53901.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5848643D1F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:38:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from snailboy1@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 53538 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Dec 2004 22:38:36 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=RAUrrF/rSR7EpyzvyT65Oq9JyYCQRHweGyz5Z0fZxLov2lS5ONUipIX1x2eThWJHkRwEObUP0UKXRir/wSKCiejK4aMJLu/3aZKiLcP24Uo5jsF1gGr3eXI3mIwU/fTGG5bcryh1mhmXtCl3HYD0LIZstBgdBtOKBtEO3LmkIso= ; Message-ID: <20041220223836.53536.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [172.172.212.86] by web53901.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:38:36 PST Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:38:36 -0800 (PST) From: David LeCount To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Problems booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:38:38 -0000 Ahoy. I'm trying to install FreeBSD on a 486 to use as a router. The BIOS has a 2 gig limitation for hard drive, which is apparent because it automatically detects my 13 gig drive as a 2 gig. So after installing the base system and rebooting, it says it cannot find the kernel. I know what you're probably thinking, but it's not the issue. The computer is FreeBSD only, so the partition covers the whole drive. Then the slice for / is on the first gig of the drive. Then I have a small swap, /var, and the rest is /usr. My kernel must be within the 2 gig limitation of the BIOS. The default it's searching for is 0:ad(0,a)/kernel which seems correct to me. (I wish the boot loader would use the same scheme that's in /dev.) The machine has only one hard drive which is the primary master. I haven't changed that nor the partition table since installation. I cannot figure out why it can't find my kernel. Any help is appreciated. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Send a seasonal email greeting and help others. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 22:43:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B11A16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:43:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8B843D45 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:43:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from runaround.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09543; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:43:18 -0700 (MST) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20041220153733.061c6830@localhost> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:43:17 -0700 To: Charles Swiger From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <137C9E12-52D6-11D9-9340-003065ABFD92@mac.com> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20041220135549.05fdaa88@localhost> <137C9E12-52D6-11D9-9340-003065ABFD92@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ECC status in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:43:24 -0000 At 03:25 PM 12/20/2004, Charles Swiger wrote: >However, your RAM isn't a hard drive, so the ad-sector remapping used >by hard drives is not fully applicable. Your machine is expected not >to have any part of memory fail reproducably, but if you do, it's time >to use the warranty and replace the entire chip. It's true that RAM is not a hard drive. However, if the problem is with certain memory cells rather than, say, the row or column drivers, the rest of the chip is usable. And if you did want to scuttle the entire module on which the chip resided, you'd probably want to disable that module in the meantime by telling the system not to use it. Certainly, you'd at least want to know which module was failing. There's nothing to tell you that right now. >ECC is a fine idea, but the motherboard chipset pretty much does >everything that is required (except for the reporting/syslogging), so >the kernel doesn't need to be specially involved for the system to >benefit from ECC protection. Alas, right now there's no way to KNOW that you need to deal with a failing RAM module until you start experiencing random and possibly destructive system panics or crashes. It'd be nice, at least, to see something in the logs or be able to collect statistics from the motherboard. --Brett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 23:01:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301BA16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:01:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.praemunio.com (mail.praemunio.com [66.179.47.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 655F443D2D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:01:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Frank@server1.home.knobbe.us) Received: from localhost (HELO mail.knobbe.us) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Dec 2004 17:01:16 -0600 Received: from server1.home.knobbe.us by firewall1.home.knobbe.us with SMTP; 20 Dec 2004 17:01:15 -0600 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:01:13 -0600 From: Frank Knobbe To: Daniel Johansson Message-ID: <20041220230113.GA48865@knobbe.us> References: <2a37e1ef0412191423786ac08a@mail.gmail.com> <2a37e1ef04122014336d489e29@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2a37e1ef04122014336d489e29@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Do I have to rebuild my jails too when I rebuild the server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:01:18 -0000 On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 11:33:33PM +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: > Okay, thank you but that page didn't help very much. I know how to > rebuild and update the server, and I've done it many times but what I > need to know is if I must rebuild my jails to when I rebuild the > server. Maby the hostsystem and the jail gets out of sync? Yes. Whenever you build world for your host system, you should also build for the jail (using DESTDIR). Otherwise they get out of sync as you suspect. Regards, Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 23:04:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE61516A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:04:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E2DF43D5D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:04:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from donnex@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so39341wri for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:04:54 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=piputJDUzMQEZEanTvmIVd1NlKDGmjBwjMxtagV8JJlrUeQvGL+m1/Piu7eKTNUN4UKdy49/0I0wLSYltFZcUIRm7eLAGHOlBH2Tfjr2F28FVkFkTAWkDb7GnCRMbHcDGDCB+glQjL8MbNdjzv3ZpYjO+oWgA1fGtnj4bO8uaoY= Received: by 10.54.1.68 with SMTP id 68mr17336wra; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:04:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.29.63 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:04:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2a37e1ef0412201504436ef3e7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:04:54 +0100 From: Daniel Johansson To: Frank Knobbe In-Reply-To: <20041220230113.GA48865@knobbe.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <2a37e1ef0412191423786ac08a@mail.gmail.com> <2a37e1ef04122014336d489e29@mail.gmail.com> <20041220230113.GA48865@knobbe.us> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Do I have to rebuild my jails too when I rebuild the server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Johansson List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:04:55 -0000 Okay, I see. I've not done this with my jails so I think it's time to do it But until now everything has worked anyway, upgraded from 4.9 to 4.10-p5. How important is it to rebuild the jails too? On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:01:13 -0600, Frank Knobbe wrote: > On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 11:33:33PM +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: > > Okay, thank you but that page didn't help very much. I know how to > > rebuild and update the server, and I've done it many times but what I > > need to know is if I must rebuild my jails to when I rebuild the > > server. Maby the hostsystem and the jail gets out of sync? > > Yes. Whenever you build world for your host system, you should also build > for the jail (using DESTDIR). Otherwise they get out of sync as you suspect. > > Regards, > Frank > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 23:08:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5017216A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:08:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.praemunio.com (mail.praemunio.com [66.179.47.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C597543D3F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:08:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Frank@server1.home.knobbe.us) Received: from localhost (HELO mail.knobbe.us) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Dec 2004 17:08:33 -0600 Received: from server1.home.knobbe.us by firewall1.home.knobbe.us with SMTP; 20 Dec 2004 17:08:32 -0600 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:08:31 -0600 From: Frank Knobbe To: Daniel Johansson Message-ID: <20041220230831.GA53582@knobbe.us> References: <2a37e1ef0412191423786ac08a@mail.gmail.com> <2a37e1ef04122014336d489e29@mail.gmail.com> <20041220230113.GA48865@knobbe.us> <2a37e1ef0412201504436ef3e7@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2a37e1ef0412201504436ef3e7@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Do I have to rebuild my jails too when I rebuild the server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:08:34 -0000 On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 12:04:54AM +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: > Okay, I see. I've not done this with my jails so I think it's time to do it > > But until now everything has worked anyway, upgraded from 4.9 to 4.10-p5. > > How important is it to rebuild the jails too? I don't think it has to do with "importance". Rather it has to do with "correctness". Jails use the running kernel. You have to rebuild kernel and world together to prevent them from getting out-of-sync (easy to test with "top"). Hence, you also have to rebuild your jail-world when you rebuild your kernel. Hope that clarifies it. Regards, Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 23:13:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B98116A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:13:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D34643D39 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:13:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from donnex@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so40002wri for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:13:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=JSnDGddC30lmf8kjHXdRVQ92QRyNGJg/QpDzm3V2ekiIaxUJXdrWzW4P9kxl14GbFTeGQWaHS39rWndM3OlnpnhAGTAThlr0n84fUBv/ELOScHLXYkCtiRg3QWpEyNljy6PxonZBcfnq5JeuhSNmKOzyu4pJIb34XIgf0Tc0RD4= Received: by 10.54.6.52 with SMTP id 52mr91525wrf; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:13:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.29.63 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:13:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2a37e1ef041220151358deab93@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:13:08 +0100 From: Daniel Johansson To: Frank Knobbe In-Reply-To: <20041220230831.GA53582@knobbe.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <2a37e1ef0412191423786ac08a@mail.gmail.com> <2a37e1ef04122014336d489e29@mail.gmail.com> <20041220230113.GA48865@knobbe.us> <2a37e1ef0412201504436ef3e7@mail.gmail.com> <20041220230831.GA53582@knobbe.us> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Do I have to rebuild my jails too when I rebuild the server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Johansson List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:13:10 -0000 I see. So if I've got a synced jail and host then top will work? I thought top never worked inside jail for some memoryissue or something like that? I think I should go and rebuild my jails too. It's just a bit of work with three jails, thank god that I've got a fast box :) Still the issue with config-files but I think I'll back them up and just restore them. On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:08:31 -0600, Frank Knobbe wrote: > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 12:04:54AM +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: > > Okay, I see. I've not done this with my jails so I think it's time to do it > > > > But until now everything has worked anyway, upgraded from 4.9 to 4.10-p5. > > > > How important is it to rebuild the jails too? > > I don't think it has to do with "importance". Rather it has to do with > "correctness". Jails use the running kernel. You have to rebuild kernel and > world together to prevent them from getting out-of-sync (easy to test with > "top"). Hence, you also have to rebuild your jail-world when you rebuild your > kernel. > > Hope that clarifies it. > Regards, > Frank > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 23:25:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06D316A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:25:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at (chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at [84.114.137.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 546DC43D3F for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:25:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: (qmail 33154 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2004 23:25:45 -0000 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net (192.168.123.10) by ns.matrix.net with SMTP; 20 Dec 2004 23:25:45 -0000 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:25:29 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <41C2CF1A.8090207@cartoon-film.de> <200412202103.01069.haimat@lame.at> <41C7481D.90302@metrocast.net> In-Reply-To: <41C7481D.90302@metrocast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412210025.44921.4711@chello.at> cc: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" cc: John Barbieri Subject: Re: RAID0 problem array broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:25:47 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 20 December 2004 22:46, John Barbieri wrote: > what was the command you useed to disable the DMA? I want to give that a > shot to. > > I see that its sysctl, but what were the flags. The flags are described in 'man 4 ata'. BTW - the manual page seems to be outdated. According to src/sys/dev/ata/ata-all.c sysctl hw.ata.atapi_dma defaults to 1. I sent a PR on this. - -- Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBx19409WjGjvKU74RAhcxAJ9XphouM+x0kacnNIkDXdGOdub+hgCfTrPj GrewVHaA+8V3HgCe7DtUmkk= =nBih -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 23:31:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D82916A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:31:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.praemunio.com (mail.praemunio.com [66.179.47.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1FB3843D58 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:31:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Frank@server1.home.knobbe.us) Received: from localhost (HELO mail.knobbe.us) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Dec 2004 17:31:53 -0600 Received: from server1.home.knobbe.us by firewall1.home.knobbe.us with SMTP; 20 Dec 2004 17:31:52 -0600 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:31:52 -0600 From: Frank Knobbe To: Daniel Johansson Message-ID: <20041220233152.GB53582@knobbe.us> References: <2a37e1ef0412191423786ac08a@mail.gmail.com> <2a37e1ef04122014336d489e29@mail.gmail.com> <20041220230113.GA48865@knobbe.us> <2a37e1ef0412201504436ef3e7@mail.gmail.com> <20041220230831.GA53582@knobbe.us> <2a37e1ef041220151358deab93@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2a37e1ef041220151358deab93@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Do I have to rebuild my jails too when I rebuild the server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:31:54 -0000 On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 12:13:08AM +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: > I see. So if I've got a synced jail and host then top will work? I > thought top never worked inside jail for some memoryissue or something > like that? No, I was using that as an example for the host. I don't think top will work in a jail. > I think I should go and rebuild my jails too. It's just a bit of work > with three jails, thank god that I've got a fast box :) Not really. Update kernel, then: make buildworld make installworld make DESTDIR=/jail1 installworld make DESTDIR=/jail2 installworld You only need to compile once. > Still the issue with config-files but I think I'll back them up and > just restore them. uhm... we're talking binaries here. I'm not sure why you would need to restore your config files. But making backups is always a good practice. Regards, Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 23:41:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E8416A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:41:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7573F43D53 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:41:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from donnex@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so42292wri for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:41:37 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=iVqsdbkaT18ybTXfRiU3otFX5scgHhBf0U7ZAYjKvbMGu5bjMBdFIXhIikFkHPeMGoNgu0GV6MV5AKI6BwPYTQAHffPJclZhw6VzvGAHzG9Gzac8gALCuxCVAoQ1o4XRk04ZOXHdsiUJ0Q/D7YGlBKf6yAFVcb3GTvq3z+pRBX8= Received: by 10.54.42.70 with SMTP id p70mr90829wrp; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:41:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.29.63 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:41:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2a37e1ef041220154144df6582@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:41:37 +0100 From: Daniel Johansson To: Frank Knobbe In-Reply-To: <20041220233152.GB53582@knobbe.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <2a37e1ef0412191423786ac08a@mail.gmail.com> <2a37e1ef04122014336d489e29@mail.gmail.com> <20041220230113.GA48865@knobbe.us> <2a37e1ef0412201504436ef3e7@mail.gmail.com> <20041220230831.GA53582@knobbe.us> <2a37e1ef041220151358deab93@mail.gmail.com> <20041220233152.GB53582@knobbe.us> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Do I have to rebuild my jails too when I rebuild the server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Johansson List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:41:39 -0000 On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:31:52 -0600, Frank Knobbe wrote: > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 12:13:08AM +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: > > I see. So if I've got a synced jail and host then top will work? I > > thought top never worked inside jail for some memoryissue or something > > like that? > > No, I was using that as an example for the host. I don't think top will work > in a jail. > > > I think I should go and rebuild my jails too. It's just a bit of work > > with three jails, thank god that I've got a fast box :) > > Not really. Update kernel, then: > make buildworld > make installworld > make DESTDIR=/jail1 installworld > make DESTDIR=/jail2 installworld > > You only need to compile once. > Hmm true, I just have to buld it once, great! > > Still the issue with config-files but I think I'll back them up and > > just restore them. > > uhm... we're talking binaries here. I'm not sure why you would need to restore > your config files. But making backups is always a good practice. > Hmm my bad, maby installworld doesn't install any new configfiles to /etc? Only mergemaster who installes configfiles? Would still be a good idea to run mergemaster for the jail to keep the configfiles up to date. > Regards, > Frank > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 23:53:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493D316A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:53:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 412DD43D41 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:53:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 13544 invoked by uid 207); 20 Dec 2004 23:53:49 -0000 Received: from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.19/3.81. Clear:RC:1(81.186.70.31):. Processed in 3.111347 secs); 20 Dec 2004 23:53:49 -0000 Received: from dialup31.ach.sch.gr (HELO gothmog.gr) ([81.186.70.31]) (envelope-sender ) by nic.sch.gr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 20 Dec 2004 23:53:45 -0000 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBJF6w3M097432 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:07:28 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBJF4v2H097372; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:04:57 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:04:57 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Nikolas Britton Message-ID: <20041219150457.GB75824@gothmog.gr> References: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: migrating from thunderbird to mutt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:53:55 -0000 On 2004-12-18 21:48, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > How do I get my old email (from thunderbird, mbox?) into mutt? I don't know what format thunderbird uses for storing email folders. If it's a plain, flat text file, in UNIX mbox format, you should be able to import the messages to Mutt by simply copying the folders from thunderbird's folder to ~/Mail. > Can mutt handle um like 5+ email address and have them all separated > and be able to send from diffrent email accounts? Yep. You can configure Mutt to automatically pick the "right" sender address depending on any number of criteria. Eg. to set the from address to something different when you reply to email sent to your business address, you can use something like: % reply-hook '~t .' my_hdr From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr (Giorgos Keramidas) % send-hook '~t .' my_hdr From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr (Giorgos Keramidas) % reply-hook '~t company\.com' my_hdr From: gkeramidas@company.com (George Keramidas) % send-hook '~t company\.com' my_hdr From: gkeramidas@company.com (George Keramidas) This will use keramida@ceid.upatras.gr by default, except for messages posted to one of the company.com addresses (in which case the second, more specific match will be used). Any number of reply-hook and send-hook patterns can be used to tweak the email address used by Mutt. If the hooks you have don't work 100% right, you can even edit the headers of the message *before* posting it, by hitting 'E' (edit-headers) instead of 'e' (edit) while preparing the message. > If I remember right mutt is just a mail reader, so how do I get mail > to and sent from mutt? The following programs are used in my email setup: Sendmail As a mail transfer agent; the program that gets requests for posting mail and makes sure their addresses are rewritten if necessary, that all messages are forwarded to the proper mail gateway (ISP, corporate, etc). fetchmail This pulls messages from various POP3 or IMAP servers, and stuffs them in the local Sendmail queue for delivery to user mailboxes on my workstation. procmail Filtering of messages delivered by the local Sendmail MTA is done by procmail. A set of filter 'recipes', as they are called in the procmail language, in my ~/.procmailrc file makes sure that email is delivered to the proper mail folder under ~/Mail/. I keep separate folders for each list I am subscribed and update this file every time I subscribe to a new list or unsubscribe from one. mutt Mail reading, sending and replying. The setup of mutt uses /usr/sbin/sendmail to post all outgoing messages through the local Sendmail installation. The incoming and outgoing email paths are similar to tha diagrams below: 1. INCOMING EMAIL ================= % +--------+ +--------+ % | POP3 | | IMAP | % | server | | server | % +--------+ +--------+ % | | % +-----+ | % | | +--------------------+ % +-------------|--|--+ | | % | | | | +-----------+ | % | | +---------> | localhost | | % | fetchmail | | | smtp | Sendmail | % | +------------> | port | | % | | +-----------+ | % +-------------------+ | | % +-|--|--|---|--------+ % +------------------------+ | | | % | +---------------+ | | % | | +------+ | % | | | | % v v v v % +--------------------------------------------------------------+ % | +--------+ +--------+ +--------+ +--------+ | % | procmail | filter | | filter | | filter | | filter | | % | | recipe | | recipe | | recipe | | recipe | | % | +--------+ +--------+ +--------+ +--------+ | % +------------------|-----------|-----------|----------|--------+ % | | | | % v v v v % +--------+ +--------+ +--------+ +--------+ % | mail | | mail | | mail | | mail | % | folder | | folder | | folder | | folder | % +--------+ +--------+ +--------+ +--------+ Mutt is configured to read email from the mail folders at the bottom of this diagram. The rest of the programs run in the background doing their work as they see fit. 2. OUTGOING EMAIL ================= The outgoing messages are handled by an even simpler setup. Mutt just forwards all the messages to Sendmail, which handles the rest (i.e. it forwards all email to my ISP's mail gateway): % +---------------------------+ % +-----------+ | +-------------------+ | % | Mutt |--------------->| Sendmail submit | | % +-----------+ | +-------|-|-|-------+ | % | v v v | % | +-------------------+ | % | | Sendmail Queue | | % | | Runner | | % | +-------|-|-|-------+ | % +-----------|-|-|-----------+ % v v v % +-------------------+ % | ISP's | % | mail gateway | % +-------------------+ > How does it handle hyperlinks, if I select something will it open up > in firefox or whatever? Not sure. I usually copy/paste the URLs from an xterm running mutt to an already open Firefox window. > Message filtering, for example I have all the different freebsd > mailing lists automatically put into different folders, and junk mail > sorting? See (1) above, for procmail :-) > Speell check? Mutt doesn't include a built-in editor. This is a major plus in my opinion, as you are free to use any sort of editor you want to edit the messages you post. I usually set editor="emacs" in my .muttrc file and use the spell-checking capabilities of GNU Emacs. > How do I set the thing up, config file help? The file `/usr/local/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt' is installed along with the Mutt port. It is the full Mutt manual. You should at least kim through it once, just to get a feel of what features Mutt has. You will probably never use all those features: some may be useless to you, some may be even annoying. Knowing what the mailer *can* do though, is going to be very helpful as you are configuring it. Ideally, Mutt is a zero configuration program. You just fire it up and run it without any sort of configuration. The default options are usually just fine. If you do have to add options to your .muttrc file, they will probably be something short like: set from="keramida@ceid.upatras.gr" # the default From: header address alternates "keramida@ceid.upatras.gr|keramida@linux.gr" Then the tweaking starts! Mutt has a ton of options to tweak the way it looks and acts. Apart from the manual in /usr/local/share/doc, which is the definitive reference for all options, you can find many sample configuration files online. Just search a bit in Google and on http://www.mutt.org. > I have more questions, I just can't think of them at the moment. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 23:56:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710A216A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:56:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.prodigy.net.mx (nlpproxy08.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.52.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143C243D2D for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:56:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwinculp@prodigy.net.mx) Received: from prodigy.net.mx (du-148-235-52-32.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.52.32]) by smtp.prodigy.net.mx (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I9100K5FP5U9T@smtp.prodigy.net.mx>; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:56:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from [148.235.52.103] (Forwarded-For: 192.168.1.1, [201.133.74.243]) by nlpmail02.prodigy.net.mx (mshttpd); Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:58:54 -0600 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:58:54 -0600 From: edwinculp To: giulianocm@uol.com.br Message-id: <8013e8230f.8230f8013e@prodigy.net.mx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: es Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: es Priority: non-urgent X-Priority: 5 (Lowest) cc: Tom Vilot cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Respuesta: Re: Skype? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:56:53 -0000 ----- Mensaje original ----- De: Giuliano Cardozo Medalha Fecha: Lunes, Diciembre 20, 2004 2:20 pm Asunto: Re: Skype? > Tom, > > I am using skype in FreeBsd-5.3-p2. > > The only think that you have to configure is (generic kernel): > > /etc/rc.conf: > > linux_enable="YES" > > after that you can find skype: > > whereis skype > > > go to /usr/ports/.../skype > > make install clean > > My only problem is about microfone using KDE. Its not working. Have you checked the volumes set in kmix -> Input ? When I first tried skype I found that in my instalation they were set to zero by default. You can then register echo123 as a skype user and call them, listen to their message then record a message in your voice(10 seconds). They will then play it back so you can use it as a reference for troubleshooting. Good look, ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 00:00:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8E816A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:00:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA7143D5A for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:00:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2AF685686; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:30:20 +1030 (CST) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:30:20 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Ruben de Groot , Dick Davies , FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20041221000020.GS84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> <20041220120620.GA68520@duplo.dahoam> <20041220133252.GB7774@lb.tenfour> <20041220145227.GA24495@ei.bzerk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZP7cwq+yCXYhlQRU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041220145227.GA24495@ei.bzerk.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:00:24 -0000 --ZP7cwq+yCXYhlQRU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Monday, 20 December 2004 at 15:52:27 +0100, Ruben de Groot wrote: > On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 01:32:53PM +0000, Dick Davies typed: >> * Gerhard Meier [1207 12:07]: >>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 08:41:57AM -0200, Giuliano Cardozo Medalha wrote: >>>> I have a machine with FreeBSD 5.3 - release -p2. >>>> >>>> I have installed bash from ports. >>>> >>>> How is possible to use bash in root account ? >>> >>> Do not change the shell of the root account. If you have /usr or >>> /usr/local on a separate partition, and you cannot mount for some >>> reason, you wont be able to fix that, without booting from >>> another device. >> >> No, but you'll still be able to use /bin/sh when going single user, so >> what's the big deal? > > Using a shell not contained in the root filesystem can cause > problems even when not in single user mode. There are enough > examples in the archives. This is a particularly tenacious rumour. I've been using bash as my root shell on many different UNIX platforms for nearly 14 years, and I've never had any problems. I've also never seen any substantiated problems reported anywhere. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --ZP7cwq+yCXYhlQRU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBx2eUIubykFB6QiMRAipKAKCghZXehbi2Z8Xe0GSAXGWb2l6FJQCfZZvL 3qzIQcO0yUq6DoHeSLi0010= =GB+v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZP7cwq+yCXYhlQRU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 00:24:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A4A216A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:24:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at (chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at [84.114.137.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9120143D5A for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:24:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: (qmail 33360 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2004 00:24:15 -0000 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net (192.168.123.10) by ns.matrix.net with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 00:24:15 -0000 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Daniel Johansson Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 01:24:00 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <2a37e1ef0412191423786ac08a@mail.gmail.com> <20041220233152.GB53582@knobbe.us> <2a37e1ef041220154144df6582@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2a37e1ef041220154144df6582@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1143630.KA4oVrsssT"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200412210124.15143.4711@chello.at> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: Frank Knobbe Subject: Re: Do I have to rebuild my jails too when I rebuild the server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:24:18 -0000 --nextPart1143630.KA4oVrsssT Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary-01=_g02xBCDbrDEN7LA" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline --Boundary-01=_g02xBCDbrDEN7LA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 21 December 2004 00:41, Daniel Johansson wrote: > On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:31:52 -0600, Frank Knobbe wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 12:13:08AM +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: > > > I see. So if I've got a synced jail and host then top will work? I > > > thought top never worked inside jail for some memoryissue or something > > > like that? > > > > No, I was using that as an example for the host. I don't think top will > > work in a jail. > > > > > I think I should go and rebuild my jails too. It's just a bit of work > > > with three jails, thank god that I've got a fast box :) > > > > Not really. Update kernel, then: > > make buildworld > > make installworld > > make DESTDIR=3D/jail1 installworld > > make DESTDIR=3D/jail2 installworld > > > > You only need to compile once. > > Hmm true, I just have to buld it once, great! > > > > Still the issue with config-files but I think I'll back them up and > > > just restore them. > > > > uhm... we're talking binaries here. I'm not sure why you would need to > > restore your config files. But making backups is always a good practice. > > Hmm my bad, maby installworld doesn't install any new configfiles to > /etc? Only mergemaster who installes configfiles? Would still be a > good idea to run mergemaster for the jail to keep the configfiles up > to date. Yes, run 'mergemaster -D /your_jails_rootdir' from your host.=20 Answer the question "Use 'd' to delete the old /var/tmp/temproot and contin= ue"=20 with 'd' or simply type 'yes' when mergemaster asks, if you wish to delete= =20 what is left of /var/tmp/temproot.=20 I mostly run a small script that runs installworld, cleans out /usr/include= /*=20 and runs mergemaster for every enabled jail it finds in /etc/rc.conf. I run= =20 it on 5.3. The bad thing is, that it depends on ng_rc-style rc.conf, so it= =20 doesn't work on 4.11. However, if you will ever run 5.3 - feel free to use= =20 it, modify it or recycle-bin it.=20 =2D-=20 Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE=20 OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu --Boundary-01=_g02xBCDbrDEN7LA-- --nextPart1143630.KA4oVrsssT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBx20v09WjGjvKU74RAjVAAJ4wucTHzTnLwtqJmWAv9ifev2LP1QCfTaXE cAWhh99M5dRPM3dD0pVt+2I= =Uxew -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1143630.KA4oVrsssT-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 00:24:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED13216A4CF for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:24:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av1-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (av1-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F5E43D39 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:24:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: by av1-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 2E0C037E6C; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 01:24:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.178]) by av1-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F30837E42 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 01:24:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h201n1fls24o1048.bredband.comhem.se [212.181.162.201]) by smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 035B437E42 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 01:24:51 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 11857 invoked by uid 1001); 21 Dec 2004 00:24:50 -0000 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 01:24:50 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey Message-ID: <20041221002449.GA11833@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey , Ruben de Groot , Dick Davies , FreeBSD Questions References: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> <20041220120620.GA68520@duplo.dahoam> <20041220133252.GB7774@lb.tenfour> <20041220145227.GA24495@ei.bzerk.org> <20041221000020.GS84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041221000020.GS84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: Ruben de Groot cc: Dick Davies cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:24:54 -0000 On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 10:30:20AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Monday, 20 December 2004 at 15:52:27 +0100, Ruben de Groot wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 01:32:53PM +0000, Dick Davies typed: > >> * Gerhard Meier [1207 12:07]: > >>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 08:41:57AM -0200, Giuliano Cardozo Medalha wrote: > >>>> I have a machine with FreeBSD 5.3 - release -p2. > >>>> > >>>> I have installed bash from ports. > >>>> > >>>> How is possible to use bash in root account ? > >>> > >>> Do not change the shell of the root account. If you have /usr or > >>> /usr/local on a separate partition, and you cannot mount for some > >>> reason, you wont be able to fix that, without booting from > >>> another device. > >> > >> No, but you'll still be able to use /bin/sh when going single user, so > >> what's the big deal? > > > > Using a shell not contained in the root filesystem can cause > > problems even when not in single user mode. There are enough > > examples in the archives. > > This is a particularly tenacious rumour. I've been using bash as my > root shell on many different UNIX platforms for nearly 14 years, and > I've never had any problems. I've also never seen any substantiated > problems reported anywhere. There was actually an actual problem with having bash as root shell reported on this very list about a week ago. See http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?41C0CC10.4020109 and http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20041216001329.GA37679 for the conclusion of the thread. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 00:45:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC0E16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:45:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 9.hellooperator.net (cpc3-cdif2-3-0-cust202.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.32.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A0543D39 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:45:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputin@hellooperator.net) Received: from rasputin by 9.hellooperator.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1CgY9p-0004AN-6V for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:45:45 +0000 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:45:45 +0000 From: Dick Davies To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20041221004544.GE4267@lb.tenfour> References: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> <20041220120620.GA68520@duplo.dahoam> <20041220133252.GB7774@lb.tenfour> <20041220145227.GA24495@ei.bzerk.org> <20041221000020.GS84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20041221002449.GA11833@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041221002449.GA11833@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: Dick Davies Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dick Davies List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:45:47 -0000 * Erik Trulsson [1224 00:24]: > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 10:30:20AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > On Monday, 20 December 2004 at 15:52:27 +0100, Ruben de Groot wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 01:32:53PM +0000, Dick Davies typed: > > >> * Gerhard Meier [1207 12:07]: > > >>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 08:41:57AM -0200, Giuliano Cardozo Medalha wrote: > > >>>> I have a machine with FreeBSD 5.3 - release -p2. > > >>>> > > >>>> I have installed bash from ports. > > >>>> > > >>>> How is possible to use bash in root account ? > > >>> > > >>> Do not change the shell of the root account. If you have /usr or > > >>> /usr/local on a separate partition, and you cannot mount for some > > >>> reason, you wont be able to fix that, without booting from > > >>> another device. > > >> > > >> No, but you'll still be able to use /bin/sh when going single user, so > > >> what's the big deal? > > > > > > Using a shell not contained in the root filesystem can cause > > > problems even when not in single user mode. There are enough > > > examples in the archives. > > > > This is a particularly tenacious rumour. I've been using bash as my > > root shell on many different UNIX platforms for nearly 14 years, and > > I've never had any problems. I've also never seen any substantiated > > problems reported anywhere. > > There was actually an actual problem with having bash as root shell > reported on this very list about a week ago. See > http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?41C0CC10.4020109 > and > http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20041216001329.GA37679 > for the conclusion of the thread. I can't see the beginning of the thread there, but ISTR that's a problem with the pppd script running before the dynamic library path is set up (so being unable to see /usr/local/lib). That's hardly a bash issue, and would be a non-issue if you statically linked bash (I can't think of any reason to want a dynamically linked one). -- 'In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.' -- The Guide Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 00:55:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E49916A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:55:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF15743D48 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:55:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02D4B85671; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:25:30 +1030 (CST) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:25:30 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Dick Davies Message-ID: <20041221005530.GA53357@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> <20041220120620.GA68520@duplo.dahoam> <20041220133252.GB7774@lb.tenfour> <20041220145227.GA24495@ei.bzerk.org> <20041221000020.GS84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20041221002449.GA11833@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20041221004544.GE4267@lb.tenfour> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SUOF0GtieIMvvwua" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041221004544.GE4267@lb.tenfour> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:55:35 -0000 --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday, 21 December 2004 at 0:45:45 +0000, Dick Davies wrote: > * Erik Trulsson [1224 00:24]: >> On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 10:30:20AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >>> On Monday, 20 December 2004 at 15:52:27 +0100, Ruben de Groot wrote: >>>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 01:32:53PM +0000, Dick Davies typed: >>>>> * Gerhard Meier [1207 12:07]: >>>>>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 08:41:57AM -0200, Giuliano Cardozo Medalha wrote: >>>>>>> I have a machine with FreeBSD 5.3 - release -p2. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have installed bash from ports. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How is possible to use bash in root account ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Do not change the shell of the root account. If you have /usr or >>>>>> /usr/local on a separate partition, and you cannot mount for some >>>>>> reason, you wont be able to fix that, without booting from >>>>>> another device. >>>>> >>>>> No, but you'll still be able to use /bin/sh when going single user, so >>>>> what's the big deal? >>>> >>>> Using a shell not contained in the root filesystem can cause >>>> problems even when not in single user mode. There are enough >>>> examples in the archives. >>> >>> This is a particularly tenacious rumour. I've been using bash as my >>> root shell on many different UNIX platforms for nearly 14 years, and >>> I've never had any problems. I've also never seen any substantiated >>> problems reported anywhere. >> >> There was actually an actual problem with having bash as root shell >> reported on this very list about a week ago. See >> http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?41C0CC10.4020109 >> and >> http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20041216001329.GA37679 >> for the conclusion of the thread. > > I can't see the beginning of the thread there, but ISTR that's a > problem with the pppd script running before the dynamic library path > is set up (so being unable to see /usr/local/lib). Yes, that's correct. > That's hardly a bash issue, It can't happen if you use a "standard" shell, so to a certain extent it's a valid criticism of my statement. I'm still thinking about the implications. There are a couple of reasons why this shouldn't happen: 1. You don't normally start networking until you have mounted your local file systems. 2. The problem is related to the invocation of su(1). It's not clear why that's there. Still, it shows that there are issues. It may be sufficient to document them. People who follow the advice in "The Complete FreeBSD" won't run into this problem, since they won't install a separate /usr file system. > and would be a non-issue if you statically linked bash (I can't > think of any reason to want a dynamically linked one). One reason is that bash pulls in a lot of libraries. That's why we used dynamic libraries in the first place. In any case, we're not talking about custom shell builds here. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBx3SCIubykFB6QiMRAu2ZAJ9wJufcpCn079UNIXET7jh5xshRDgCdGWkd kIqGGYaR0NuIujdpWc7QV20= =g+fj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 02:25:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE66416A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 02:25:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from s16.s16avahost.net (s16.s16avahost.net [66.98.246.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9418843D1D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 02:25:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ink@quantescape.com) Received: from pcp09943044pcs.hyatsv01.md.comcast.net ([69.143.229.85] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by s16.s16avahost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1CgZhr-0001nH-Tt for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:25:00 -0600 Message-ID: <41C78983.7090306@quantescape.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:25:07 -0500 From: Nicholas Ink User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: administrator@quantescape.com,commercial@quantescape.com,ink@quantescape.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - s16.s16avahost.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - quantescape.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: CVS Source and Tarball X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 02:25:00 -0000 Does anyone know of a location where the /entire /FreeBSD source code can be downloaded in a tarball, for example? While CVS is an effective tool, I was recently using it to get the source on my Windows XP machine when it told me that some of the filenames were incompatible with the NT file system. Is there a good way to remedy this? I would like to look at the source on my XP machine, but it is exceedingly difficult. What would be the best way to go about doing this? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 04:20:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D224516A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 04:20:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A1743D5C for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 04:20:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linguae@lycos.com) Received: from wfilter.us4.outblaze.com (wfilter.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.180])082881800215 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 04:20:13 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (208.36.123.33) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 21 Dec 2004 04:20:12 -0000 Received: by ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B16DACA07F; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 04:20:12 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [4.246.247.42] by ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com with http for linguae@lycos.com; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:20:12 -0500 From: linguae@lycos.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:20:12 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 4.246.247.42 X-Originating-Server: ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20041221042012.B16DACA07F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: 3Com Megahertz 3CXEM556 B Multifunction Card Not Working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 04:20:13 -0000 Hello. I have problems trying to get my multifunction 3Com Megahertz=20 3CXEM556 B Ethernet/56K Modem PCMCIA card working on FreeBSD 5.1 on=20 my Compaq Armada 7400. The card works perfectly (as far as the modem=20 part, can't test the ethernet portion) on Windows 98 SE. Whenever I=20 try to configure PPP for my card on FreeBSD, when I type the dialing=20 commands (such as at, atdt, etc.), the output on the screen would=20 either be jarbled or won't appear at all. Here is my dmesg output: Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jun 5 02:55:42 GMT 2003 root@wv1u.btc.adaptec.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc0689000. Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 266677223 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (266.68-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x652 Stepping =3D 2 =20=20=20 Features=3D0x183f9ff real memory =3D 67067904 (63 MB) avail memory =3D 58134528 (55 MB) Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcibios: BIOS version 2.10 Using $PIR table, 7 entries at 0xc00f0970 pcib0: at pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 0.1 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) cbb0: mem 0x7fffe000-0x7fffefff irq 11 at=20 device 12.0 on pci0 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 cbb1: mem 0x7ffff000-0x7fffffff irq 11 at=20 device 12.1 on pci0 cardbus1: on cbb1 pccard1: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb1 isab0: at device 14.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port=20 0x1000-0x100f,0-0x3,0-0x7,0-0x3,0-0x7 at device 14.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 ohci0: mem 0x44080000-0x44080fff irq=20 11 at device 14.2 on pci0 usb0: OHCI version 1.0 usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (0x0e11) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered eisa0: on motherboard mainboard0: on eisa0 slot 0 pmtimer0 on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 fdc0: at port=20 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0x200 sio1: port may not be enabled sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (irq) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec ep0: <3Com Megahertz 3CXEM556 B> at port 0x100-0x10f irq 11 function=20 0 config 7 on pccard0 ep0: eeprom failed to come ready. device_probe_and_attach: ep0 attach returned 6 sio4: <3Com Megahertz 3CXEM556 B> at port 0x110-0x117 irq 11 function=20 1 config 39 on pccard0 sio4: type 16550A with a bogus IIR_TXRDY register sio4: unable to activate interrupt in fast mode - using normal mode ad0: 4108MB [8905/15/63] at ata0-master BIOSDMA Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a I did read the ep man page; it did say that my card was "wedged"=20 (which, according to the Jargon File, means that the card doesn't=20 really work). I also used Google to see if other people had problems=20 with the same card, but I didn't find any solutions at all. What do=20 I need to do in order to get my PCMCIA card working properly? I am=20 relatively new to FreeBSD, so I don't really know where to go from=20 here. Thanks in advance. -linguae ---------------------------------------------- An Apple a day keeps the doctor away. Proud supporter of Unix-based operating systems. --=20 _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.as= p?SRC=3Dlycos10 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 04:30:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9000C16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 04:30:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.mail.ru (mx1.mail.ru [194.67.23.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F5B543D49 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 04:30:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@mail.ru) Received: from [83.237.13.16] (port=1101 helo=[172.17.0.69]) by mx1.mail.ru with esmtp id 1Cgbf8-000DJp-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:30:19 +0300 Message-ID: <41C7A6D8.5010908@mail.ru> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:30:16 +0300 From: "Andrew P." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected Subject: Remote system directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: infofarmer@mail.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 04:30:20 -0000 Hello! I've got a freebsd box with a 2Gb hard drive and a server with a lot of free space. I want to make use of nfs and let the "small" box mount most of its directories in read-write mode from the server. What directories are safe to be moved to a remote location? The idea is that should the server go down, the box must still be bootable and accessible via ssh. I've read hier manual page, but it doesn't go deep into how bad the system need each directory at startup - and how heavy access is to each folder during normal operation. Can the system boot into multi-user mode in case /usr fails to mount? I'm now experimenting with different subfolders of /usr and other dirs, and I'd be glad to hear a piece of advice. Best wishes, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 04:48:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 771C216A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 04:48:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E585343D45 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 04:48:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shundread@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so296090wri for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:48:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Lxdv+6Ux87aOMooRytMpeb7/XeqePflH35sNhCtmK3OHjcYnrnlTrQ4C6R35eSNi/5Tdk/Lbnp3id1lWKpgnPMirPhomHN1F0br+IazHcBIRR1sAsDMloBJdfcpDb4q5ePRqqZlcWkkGkshIgkZDGAvHaChGsYMC9ji+oueYXwg= Received: by 10.54.35.24 with SMTP id i24mr208523wri; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:48:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.7.64 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:48:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9e2497fd04122020484a1aabce@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 02:48:47 -0200 From: Thiago Chaves To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problem (unwanted feature?) in FreeBSD's site. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Thiago Chaves List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 04:48:49 -0000 When I go to the ported applications link and enter, for example, in editors, I get for an application (MathPlanner) the following options: > Long description | Package | Sources | Main Web Site However, if I search for mathplanner (in the site's search tool), I get those options: > Description : Sources : Changes : Download I believe that, in any of the cases, I should (would like to) be getting: > Changes | Description | Download | Sources | Main Web Site Or at least the same options in both cases. Thanks. -Fioric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 04:51:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DDFC16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 04:51:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9797B43D2D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 04:51:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fj@panix.com) Received: from panix5.panix.com (panix5.panix.com [166.84.1.5]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB84A981C8 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:51:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fj@localhost) by panix5.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id iBL4pMv05339 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:51:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:51:22 -0500 From: Joe Altman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041221045122.GA12435@panix.com> Mail-Followup-To: Joe Altman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <9a.1c2fb899.2ef7d0f7@aol.com> <200412200454.09343.algould@datawok.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200412200454.09343.algould@datawok.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: installing bsd on a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 04:51:23 -0000 On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:54:09AM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > On Monday 20 December 2004 12:53 am, NathanKelly31@aol.com wrote: > > hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or > > openbsd that is available to purchase??? > > I was unable to get a Compaq's pccard working under FreeBSD 5.2.1 using > either the new or old pccard systems. I had no problems on a Dell > using FreeBSD 4.10 or 5.3. Not following up to Andrew, in particular, but to point out the "...a Dell (or Gateway or HP or whatever)..." is not very exact; and it may be helpful to indicate a model and /or number for any recommendation. For instance: http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/notebooks?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs shows several possible notebooks. Let's take this one: Inspiron 1150, with various features, including: Memory 256MB Shared DDR SDRAM, 1 Dimm which means that video fills its needs from system memory. Now, the issue here is that for lower end laptops that use shared memory and the Intel integrated graphics chip with a bios lock on memory allocation, you may end up w/o the ability to display in 1024x768 in X. So it may pay for anyone to check to see that the available memory is sufficient to provide a minimum comfortable resolution. Another example: http://products.gateway.com/products/GConfig/prodDetails.asp?system_id=m275x&seg=hm Midway down, you'll see this: Integrated Intel. Extreme Graphics 2 What does that mean, WRT resolution in X? I can't find out, easily (it's a JavaScript thing). It is likely that it has enough memory for 1024x768 or even a finer resolution; but it would be a good idea to make sure, IMO. In short, I would recommend that you get as much detail from the vendor as you can; and don't assume that because it is a modern machine and some models in a brand do work very well with FreeBSD that any given model will work well with FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 05:05:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED6016A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:05:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DCB943D2D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:05:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) iBL553v48794; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:05:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Muhammad Reza" , Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:05:03 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <41C59DAA.9050308@mra.co.id> Subject: RE: V.35 Interface Card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:05:19 -0000 These work great and are cheap: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=51212&item=5738110287 &rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW The driver is included with FreeBSD. You will have to contact the seller directly as the last auction nobody bought the card. They come up from time to time on Ebay. If you need to build a cable I can send you a schematic for one and part numbers for the connectors. Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Muhammad Reza > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 7:27 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: V.35 Interface Card > > > Dear List. > > Please recommend us with V.35 interface adapter that work good in > FreeBSD-4.10. > > regards > reza > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 05:08:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB0916A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:08:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214C243D1F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:08:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20041221050816i92002aoeee>; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:08:17 +0000 Message-ID: <41C7AFBE.9070101@nbritton.org> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:08:14 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linguae@lycos.com References: <20041221042012.B16DACA07F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20041221042012.B16DACA07F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3Com Megahertz 3CXEM556 B Multifunction Card Not Working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:08:18 -0000 linguae@lycos.com wrote: >Hello. I have problems trying to get my multifunction 3Com Megahertz >3CXEM556 B Ethernet/56K Modem PCMCIA card working on FreeBSD 5.1 on >my Compaq Armada 7400. The card works perfectly (as far as the modem >part, can't test the ethernet portion) on Windows 98 SE. Whenever I >try to configure PPP for my card on FreeBSD, when I type the dialing >commands (such as at, atdt, etc.), the output on the screen would >either be jarbled or won't appear at all. > > Hey, also, when you get this resolved (or if you don't) write it up at the FreeBSD Laptop Compatibility List: http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/index.pl?action=laptop_submit_form http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/index.pl?action=pcmcia_submit_form and updating to 5.3 might be a good idea too. >Here is my dmesg output: > >Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. >Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. >FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jun 5 02:55:42 GMT 2003 > root@wv1u.btc.adaptec.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC >Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc0689000. >Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz >Timecounter "TSC" frequency 266677223 Hz >CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (266.68-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping = 2 > >Features=0x183f9ff >real memory = 67067904 (63 MB) >avail memory = 58134528 (55 MB) >Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled >npx0: on motherboard >npx0: INT 16 interface >pcibios: BIOS version 2.10 >Using $PIR table, 7 entries at 0xc00f0970 >pcib0: at pcibus 0 on motherboard >pci0: on pcib0 >pcib1: at device 0.1 on pci0 >pci1: on pcib1 >pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) >cbb0: mem 0x7fffe000-0x7fffefff irq 11 at >device 12.0 on pci0 >cardbus0: on cbb0 >pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 >cbb1: mem 0x7ffff000-0x7fffffff irq 11 at >device 12.1 on pci0 >cardbus1: on cbb1 >pccard1: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb1 >isab0: at device 14.0 on pci0 >isa0: on isab0 >atapci0: port >0x1000-0x100f,0-0x3,0-0x7,0-0x3,0-0x7 at device 14.1 on pci0 >ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 >ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 >ohci0: mem 0x44080000-0x44080fff irq >11 at device 14.2 on pci0 >usb0: OHCI version 1.0 >usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting >usb0: on ohci0 >usb0: USB revision 1.0 >uhub0: (0x0e11) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 >uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered >eisa0: on motherboard >mainboard0: on eisa0 slot 0 >pmtimer0 on isa0 >atkbdc0: at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0 >atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 >kbd0 at atkbd0 >psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 >psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 >fdc0: at port >0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 >fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold >fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 >ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 >ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode >ppbus0: on ppc0 >plip0: on ppbus0 >lpt0: on ppbus0 >lpt0: Interrupt-driven port >ppi0: on ppbus0 >sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 >sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> >sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 >sio0: type 16550A >sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0x200 >sio1: port may not be enabled >sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 >sio1: type 16550A >vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 >unknown: can't assign resources (port) >unknown: can't assign resources (irq) >unknown: can't assign resources (port) >unknown: can't assign resources (port) >unknown: can't assign resources (port) >unknown: can't assign resources (port) >Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec >ep0: <3Com Megahertz 3CXEM556 B> at port 0x100-0x10f irq 11 function >0 config 7 on pccard0 >ep0: eeprom failed to come ready. >device_probe_and_attach: ep0 attach returned 6 >sio4: <3Com Megahertz 3CXEM556 B> at port 0x110-0x117 irq 11 function >1 config 39 on pccard0 >sio4: type 16550A with a bogus IIR_TXRDY register >sio4: unable to activate interrupt in fast mode - using normal mode >ad0: 4108MB [8905/15/63] at ata0-master BIOSDMA >Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a > > >I did read the ep man page; it did say that my card was "wedged" >(which, according to the Jargon File, means that the card doesn't >really work). I also used Google to see if other people had problems >with the same card, but I didn't find any solutions at all. What do >I need to do in order to get my PCMCIA card working properly? I am >relatively new to FreeBSD, so I don't really know where to go from >here. Thanks in advance. > >-linguae > >---------------------------------------------- >An Apple a day keeps the doctor away. >Proud supporter of Unix-based operating systems. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 05:13:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E413D16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:13:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA7A43D31 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:13:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:15:19 -0600 Message-ID: <41C7B115.2060005@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:13:57 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: infofarmer@mail.ru References: <41C7A6D8.5010908@mail.ru> In-Reply-To: <41C7A6D8.5010908@mail.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2004 05:15:20.0313 (UTC) FILETIME=[10F9E690:01C4E71C] cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote system directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:13:52 -0000 Andrew P. wrote: > Hello! > > I've got a freebsd box with a 2Gb hard drive and a server with a lot > of free space. I want > to make use of nfs and let the "small" box mount most of its > directories in read-write mode from > the server. What directories are safe to be moved to a remote > location? The idea is that should > the server go down, the box must still be bootable and accessible via > ssh. > > I've read hier manual page, but it doesn't go deep into how bad the > system need each > directory at startup - and how heavy access is to each folder during > normal operation. > > Can the system boot into multi-user mode in case /usr fails to mount? I'd say "no" to that last; not.without some modifications (and I wouldn't care to speculate on the advisability of that). Here's the first obvious problem I see: [642] Mon 20.Dec.2004 23:09:16 [kadmin@archangel][/home/kadmin] ps -aux | grep tty root 68398 0.0 0.1 1408 600 p5 R+ 11:09PM 0:00.00 grep tty root 682 0.0 0.0 1280 12 v0 Is+ Wed12PM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv0 root 683 0.0 0.0 1280 12 v1 Is+ Wed12PM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv1 root 684 0.0 0.0 1280 12 v2 Is+ Wed12PM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv2 root 685 0.0 0.0 1280 12 v3 Is+ Wed12PM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv3 root 686 0.0 0.0 1280 12 v4 Is+ Wed12PM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv4 root 687 0.0 0.0 1280 12 v5 Is+ Wed12PM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv5 root 688 0.0 0.0 1280 12 v6 Is+ Wed12PM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv6 root 689 0.0 0.0 1280 12 v7 Is+ Wed12PM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv7 No tty's are available without /usr .... Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 05:27:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A11B16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:27:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A503843D31 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:27:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:29:16 -0600 Message-ID: <41C7B467.7070705@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:28:07 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: NathanKelly31@aol.com References: <9a.1c2fb899.2ef7d0f7@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <9a.1c2fb899.2ef7d0f7@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2004 05:29:17.0125 (UTC) FILETIME=[03C14750:01C4E71E] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installing bsd on a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:27:48 -0000 NathanKelly31@aol.com wrote: >hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or openbsd that >is available to purchase??? > > > The "FreeBSD Laptop Compatability List" at: http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ will give you some information from about 450 other FreeBSD + laptop users. HTH, Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 06:09:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3BD816A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:09:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6D943D46 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:09:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CFBB2512C4; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:09:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:09:40 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Nicholas Ink Message-ID: <20041221060940.GA52208@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41C78983.7090306@quantescape.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/04w6evG8XlLl3ft" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C78983.7090306@quantescape.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: CVS Source and Tarball X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:09:41 -0000 --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 09:25:07PM -0500, Nicholas Ink wrote: > Does anyone know of a location where the /entire /FreeBSD source=20 > code can be downloaded in a tarball, for example? Check on the FTP site. Kris --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBx74kWry0BWjoQKURAiHXAJ9nKUi/hrm/0Tp59Eh/yY36ZahyCACfTHmb Wx9AFufE/RIgCN5vf9KzgRA= =0l20 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 06:15:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8FD16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:15:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.minutemenu.com (mail.minutemenu.com [69.93.74.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A26E43D2D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:15:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jreeder@minutemenu.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.minutemenu.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.minutemenu.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934B8228865; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:10:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail.minutemenu.com ([69.93.74.12]) by localhost (lisa.minutemenu.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 70324-08; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:10:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-67-173-207-169.client.comcast.net [67.173.207.169]) by mail.minutemenu.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B13228649; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:10:37 -0600 (CST) From: Jonathan Reeder To: "Roger. O. Svenning" In-Reply-To: <41C7525A.7020509@audioweb.no> References: <41C7525A.7020509@audioweb.no> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1103609837.3637.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:17:17 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.minutemenu.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell CERC SATA 2S question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jreeder@minutemenu.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:15:31 -0000 Hmm, well since I'm stuck with the hardware that I've been given, does that mean that I need to pursue a different OS? I'd love to run FreeBSD on this server, but I can't change any of its hardware so do I need to look at Linux? On Mon, 2004-12-20 at 16:29, Roger. O. Svenning wrote: > Jonathan Reeder wrote: > > >I just got a Dell PowerEdge SC420 (or something like that) with the CERC > >SATA 2S RAID. When the server boots, the Adaptec utility tells me that I > >have one array configured, a RAID 1 with 2 drives. However, when I launch > >the 5.3 installer and go to Allocate Disk Space options, it sees two drives > >rather than the single RAID array. The two drives it sees are ad4 and ad6. > >I get an error when I select either of them, saying: > > > > > RAID on your SATA controller are not supported by FreeBSD. > If supported you'd see the array as ar0 along with the ad(4|6) entries. > > >"A geometry of 310019/16/63 for ad(4|6) is incorrect. Using a more likely > >geometry..." > > > > > > > This is quite normal > > >Any thoughts on how I can get FreeBSD to see my SATA array as an array > >rather than as two separate drives? > > > > > Get a supported SATA controller. > I'm using the HighPoint Rocketraid 15xx ones, tho there seem to be some > speed issues as I get very low transfer speeds on the arrays. > > Roger O. Svenning > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 06:27:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C1B16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:27:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sampson.aptedtech.com (sampson.aptedtech.com [209.124.140.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877E243D2F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:27:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dhull@digitaloverload.net) Received: (qmail 15494 invoked by uid 66); 21 Dec 2004 07:43:22 -0000 Received: from dhull@digitaloverload.net by sampson.aptedtech.com by uid 60 with qmail-scanner-1.15 (sophie: 2.10/3.63. Clear:. Processed in 0.079845 secs); 21 Dec 2004 07:43:22 -0000 Received: from 209-124-142-204.olive.dsl.arctic.net (HELO tower1.digitaloverload.local) (209.124.142.204) by sampson.customcpu.com with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 07:43:22 -0000 From: Damien Hull To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:27:04 -0900 Message-Id: <1103610424.12338.28.camel@tower1.digitaloverload.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: upgrading 4.10 to 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:27:08 -0000 I'm trying to upgrade my 4.10 workstation to 5.3 but I'm not having any luck. In my search to find an answer I found some info saying that one shouldn't upgrade branches. That brings me to my first question. Should I upgrade from 4.10 to 5.3 or should I just setup a new 5.3 workstation? Here's where I am having trouble. 1. when trying to install the kernel I get this message telling me there is no /boot/device.hints file. After doing some research I found that there is a GENERIC.hints file in /usr/src/something/i386/conf/ (don't remember the exact location). I placed that file in /boot/ and installed the kernel. The kernel installs but I don't know if the GENERIC.hints file will work when I reboot. All I can say is that the kernel installed. That's when I moved on to mergemaster. 2. I had some trouble with mergemaster. Don't know what I did wrong here so I can't say much about it. I don't think I've ever had much luck with mergemaster. I'm going to give the upgrade another shot so maybe it will work this next time. 3. Somehow I was able to finish the mergemaster step and move on to installing my world. I did "make installworld" and a bunch of things went by on the screen and then I got errors and "stop". I think it said something about a core dump. All I got out of it was that my upgrade didn't work. I used g4u to backup my 4.10 workstation before I did the upgrade. I'm doing my second restore as I write this. As soon as it finishes I'll cvsup and start all over. If anyone can tell me what I'm doing wrong let me know. Also, if you think I should just dump 4.10 and do a new install of 5.3 I can do that as well. I've got another drive I can install 5.3 on. I'm hoping I can upgrade so I don't have to configure a new 5.3 system. -- Damien Hull From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 06:31:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDFF16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:31:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D7C43D1D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:31:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.2/8.13.2) with ESMTP id iBL6VS8x092320 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:31:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:31:28 -0800 Message-Id: <20041221063032.M20012@enabled.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 67.161.56.189 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: phpMyAdmin 2.6.1-rc1 cant create database X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:31:30 -0000 phpMyAdmin 2.6.1-rc1 freeBSD-4.9 phpMyAdmin claims that there are no priviledges to create a database even as root. how do I fix this? cheers, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 06:43:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C85516A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:43:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usw2.natel.net (2b.bz [209.152.117.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 786E443D62 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:43:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 48564 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2004 06:43:42 -0000 Received: from batv-01-041.dialup.netins.net (HELO Htebazile.US-Webmasters.com) (216.248.109.42) by us-webmasters.com with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 06:43:42 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20041221004243.02a08b30@209.152.117.178> X-Sender: wd@209.152.117.178 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:43:04 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "W. D." In-Reply-To: <41C7B467.7070705@daleco.biz> References: <9a.1c2fb899.2ef7d0f7@aol.com> <9a.1c2fb899.2ef7d0f7@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: installing bsd on a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:43:45 -0000 How 'bout this one? http://news.google.com/news?q=3Dwalmart+laptop Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 06:45:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D951616A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:45:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD66843D4C for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:45:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.2/8.13.2) with ESMTP id iBL6jRkx092821 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:45:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:45:27 -0800 Message-Id: <20041221064323.M73031@enabled.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 67.161.56.189 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: web calendar recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:45:30 -0000 FreeBSD-4.9 well I am back to the drawing board here. webcalendar is not very well supported, and it does not interface that well with my Palm calendar. I cant appear to upload my calendar to it. http://www.k5n.us/webcalendar.php can somebody please send along their recommendations for a calendar program that can support multiple user calendars that can then be shared for scheduling purposes? Any ideas please? cheers, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 07:00:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727DA16A4D0 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:00:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailhost.frm2.tum.de (mailhost.frm2.tum.de [129.187.179.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4EE43D1F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:00:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Joerg.Pulz@frm2.tum.de) Received: from localhost (mailhost.frm2.tum.de [129.187.179.12]) iBL704Oo072792; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:00:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jpulz@frm2.tum.de) Received: from hades.admin.frm2 (hades.admin.frm2 [172.25.1.10]) by mailhost.frm2.tum.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBL6xkEF072689 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:59:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jpulz@frm2.tum.de) Received: from hades.admin.frm2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hades.admin.frm2 (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBL6xkpS096771; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:59:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jpulz@frm2.tum.de) Received: (from jpulz@localhost) by hades.admin.frm2 (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBL6xgiV096770; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:59:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jpulz) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:59:40 +0100 (CET) From: Joerg Pulz To: bob In-Reply-To: <41C74125.4040807@charter.net> Message-ID: <20041221075515.R32871@hades.admin.frm2> References: <41C74125.4040807@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: at mailhost.frm2.tum.de cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: php5.0.3_1 doesn't run after update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:00:09 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, bob wrote: > ... > portupgrade -v php5 > > PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library > /usr/local/lib/php/20041030/session.so ^^^^ > > In /usr/local/lib/php I have: > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1536 Dec 20 13:58 20040412 ^^^^ hi, i don't know what was going wrong during your update, but if you take a closer look at the above lines you will see the cause of your problem. the directory which contains the extensions is different to the one you have configured in php.ini. try to set extension_dir = /usr/local/lib/php/20040412 in php.ini and try again. yesterday, i made a fresh php5 install and my extensions are in /usr/local/lib/php/20041030. don't know why this is not the case for you after upgrading from a previous version. regards Joerg - -- The beginning is the most important part of the work. -Plato -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBx8neSPOsGF+KA+MRAlTCAJ9JVamtc+12JkzctqnPRzaNd/kEvACgyvTl pRH9IbVOD8i9oCI1QVYxZjI= =4riC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 07:13:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898F516A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:13:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta.ncst.ernet.in (mta.ncst.ernet.in [202.141.151.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05BB143D1D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:13:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from AntiVirus-System@ncst.ernet.in) Received: from mta.ncst.ernet.in (IDENT:root@mta.ncst.ernet.in [202.141.151.15]) by mta.ncst.ernet.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id iBLI5Po21891 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:05:25 -0500 From: AntiVirus-System@ncst.ernet.in MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <41C865E1.00080B.01068@mta.ncst.ernet.in> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:05:21 -0500 (GMT+5) To: Subject: Virus found in the message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:13:25 -0000 #Scanner: MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 Problem description: Email data: MessageID: <200412211805.iBLI5JB21798@mta.ncst.ernet.in> From: questions@freebsd.org To: course@soochak.ncst.ernet.in Cc: Subject: Important Scanning part [] Scanning part [Important.zip] Attachment validity check: passed. Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 07:13:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B7516A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:13:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta.ncst.ernet.in (mta.ncst.ernet.in [202.141.151.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DBF343D41 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:13:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from AntiVirus-System@ncst.ernet.in) Received: from mta.ncst.ernet.in (IDENT:root@mta.ncst.ernet.in [202.141.151.15]) by mta.ncst.ernet.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id iBLI5Qo21901 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:05:26 -0500 From: AntiVirus-System@ncst.ernet.in MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <41C865E1.00080D.01068@mta.ncst.ernet.in> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:05:21 -0500 (GMT+5) To: Subject: Message quarantined X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:13:26 -0000 #Scanner: MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 Problem description: Email data: MessageID: <200412211805.iBLI5JB21798@mta.ncst.ernet.in> From: questions@freebsd.org To: course@soochak.ncst.ernet.in Cc: Subject: Important Scanning part [] Scanning part [Important.zip] Attachment validity check: passed. Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 07:54:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6967916A4D3 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:54:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.178.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88E543D5E for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:54:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@uni-mainz.de) Received: from [134.93.183.16] (edda.Geo.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.183.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3383000952; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:54:35 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C7D6D2.5080801@uni-mainz.de> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:54:58 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Institut =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr_Geophysik?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; de-AT; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041113 X-Accept-Language: de-de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Bye References: <41C58F92.3060108@uni-mainz.de> <20041220191923.GA32770@catflap.slightlystrange.org> In-Reply-To: <20041220191923.GA32770@catflap.slightlystrange.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at uni-mainz.de cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 and BIND9 problems! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:54:37 -0000 Daniel Bye schrieb: >On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 03:26:26PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: > > >>Dear Sirs. >>Compiling PHP 5.0.3 from PHP.NET, PHP 5.0.2 from ./ports collection and >>PHP5-SNAP from php.net fail in compiling in FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE >>(cvsupdated and rebuilt today!) with an error that seems to be BIND9 >>specific: >> >>ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1d49): In function `.L166': >>: undefined reference to `res_ninit' >>ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1db5): In function `.L166': >>: undefined reference to `res_nmkquery' >>ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1de7): In function `.L166': >>: undefined reference to `res_nsend' >>ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1f6a): In function `.L166': >>: undefined reference to `res_nclose' >> >>I searched the web and mailing lists for this problem and I found out, >>that PHP won't compile when FreeBSD 5.x lacks in BIND9. As I know, >>FreeBSD 5.3 definitely has BIND9, but why is PHP not compiling the >>expected way? /usr/include/resolv.h does not have any definitions for >>the above mentioned routines and it seems to be a 'weird' failure, maybe >>something I missed when installing 'world'? >> >> > >You don't by any chance have NO_BIND set in /etc/make.conf? I've been >caught out by a similar failure in the past... > >Dan > > > NO_BIND isn't set as it wasn't set before. I checked the installed /usr/include/resolv.h again and found that no one of the missing routines shown above are within this include file, so it seemes to me strange ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 08:24:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2200916A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:24:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F62D43D39 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:24:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xinizul@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 57so271470wri for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:24:43 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ms12Nirr1SBx0fUgHEXXLyuYAm0oDTmvLoSUTMDWUQAiW93D7WY9VX8ztRkA/jsXlQ0EMTOm7Jv+P2kp9vu9xJoDCXBcij3Viq2UFdbke8h82nRs1pH4XKTV9zRDRAj5DbjWa0Y6mc2kew4uE/fof/BHgusPU6yVh4KiXmq0+OQ= Received: by 10.54.40.65 with SMTP id n65mr270795wrn; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:24:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.22.20 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:24:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4d07305604122100241292727d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:24:43 +0100 From: Xinizul Xinizul To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: amulecmd is openning adialog ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Xinizul Xinizul List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:24:45 -0000 Hello all. I have installed amule-devel 2.0.0.rc7 in my FreeBSD 5.3- I use to connect remmotely through SSH and I want to use amulecmd command to inspect my aMule jobs. I currently have the following problem I'd like somebody help me to solve: When I execute amulecmd within my putty session it fails running: (amulecmd:883): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: Is this behaviour right (I mean why should it open a display) ? If not, how can I run amule in a pure text and command line based interface? Thantks a lot, Xinizul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 08:32:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2754716A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:32:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kende.com (ns1.kende.com [66.17.131.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9BB8D43D1F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:32:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andras@kende.com) Received: (qmail 78866 invoked by uid 0); 21 Dec 2004 08:32:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO a) (24.1.129.219) by ns1.kende.com with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 08:32:16 -0000 From: "Andras Kende" To: "'Noah'" , Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 02:32:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20041221063032.M20012@enabled.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcTnJtAjPdHMSsMiQFmVz68ejJSo1wAEDYtg Message-Id: <20041221083201.9BB8D43D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: RE: phpMyAdmin 2.6.1-rc1 cant create database X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:32:02 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Noah Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 12:31 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: phpMyAdmin 2.6.1-rc1 cant create database phpMyAdmin 2.6.1-rc1 freeBSD-4.9 phpMyAdmin claims that there are no priviledges to create a database even as root. how do I fix this? cheers, Noah _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hello Noah, That's probably more like a mysql privilege problem... Welcome to phpMyAdmin 2.6.1-rc1 MySQL 4.0.22 running on localhost as root@localhost, tested to create new db works fine here... Do you have something like this in your privileges: phpMyAdmin -> Home -> Privileges : root localhost Yes ALL PRIVILEGES Yes Best regards, Andras Kende http://www.kende.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 08:41:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D202616A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:41:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.178.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CADE43D5A for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:41:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@uni-mainz.de) Received: from [134.93.183.16] (edda.Geo.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.183.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0222730005AD; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:41:25 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C7E1CF.4030609@uni-mainz.de> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:41:51 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Institut =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr_Geophysik?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; de-AT; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041113 X-Accept-Language: de-de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "O. Hartmann" References: <41C58F92.3060108@uni-mainz.de> <20041220191923.GA32770@catflap.slightlystrange.org> <41C7D6D2.5080801@uni-mainz.de> In-Reply-To: <41C7D6D2.5080801@uni-mainz.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at uni-mainz.de cc: Daniel Bye cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 and BIND9 problems! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:41:26 -0000 O. Hartmann schrieb: > Daniel Bye schrieb: > >> On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 03:26:26PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: >> >> >>> Dear Sirs. >>> Compiling PHP 5.0.3 from PHP.NET, PHP 5.0.2 from ./ports collection >>> and PHP5-SNAP from php.net fail in compiling in FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE >>> (cvsupdated and rebuilt today!) with an error that seems to be BIND9 >>> specific: >>> >>> ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1d49): In function `.L166': >>> : undefined reference to `res_ninit' >>> ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1db5): In function `.L166': >>> : undefined reference to `res_nmkquery' >>> ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1de7): In function `.L166': >>> : undefined reference to `res_nsend' >>> ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1f6a): In function `.L166': >>> : undefined reference to `res_nclose' >>> >>> I searched the web and mailing lists for this problem and I found >>> out, that PHP won't compile when FreeBSD 5.x lacks in BIND9. As I >>> know, FreeBSD 5.3 definitely has BIND9, but why is PHP not compiling >>> the expected way? /usr/include/resolv.h does not have any >>> definitions for the above mentioned routines and it seems to be a >>> 'weird' failure, maybe something I missed when installing 'world'? >>> >> >> >> You don't by any chance have NO_BIND set in /etc/make.conf? I've been >> caught out by a similar failure in the past... >> >> Dan >> >> >> > NO_BIND isn't set as it wasn't set before. > I checked the installed /usr/include/resolv.h again and found that no > one of the missing > routines shown above are within this include file, so it seemes to me > strange ... > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" All right, maybe this is of suitable help: This is a port of the ./configure output, when configurte checks system properties: checking for res_nmkquery... no checking for __res_nmkquery... no checking for res_nmkquery in -lresolv... no checking for __res_nmkquery in -lresolv... no checking for res_nmkquery in -lbind... no checking for __res_nmkquery in -lbind... yes checking for res_nsend... no checking for __res_nsend... yes checking for dn_expand... yes Should this mean that the problem is a PHP5 problem? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 08:51:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D2C16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:51:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from weller-fahy.com (pD9FFFF41.dip.t-dialin.net [217.255.255.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEDA43D2D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:51:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave-lists-freebsd-questions@weller-fahy.com) Received: (qmail 20203 invoked by uid 1001); 21 Dec 2004 08:51:53 -0000 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:51:53 +0100 From: "David J. Weller-Fahy" To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20041221085131.GB19183@weller-fahy.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions References: <1103610424.12338.28.camel@tower1.digitaloverload.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1103610424.12338.28.camel@tower1.digitaloverload.local> X-URL-Me: http://www.weller-fahy.com X-Accept-Language: en X-Location: Germany, Gangelt, Hof Grootfeld User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: upgrading 4.10 to 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:51:56 -0000 * Damien Hull [2004-12-21 07:27 +0100]: > If anyone can tell me what I'm doing wrong let me know. Also, if you > think I should just dump 4.10 and do a new install of 5.3 I can do that > as well. I've got another drive I can install 5.3 on. > > I'm hoping I can upgrade so I don't have to configure a new 5.3 system. I never did get back to the aklug list, did I? Darn. Anyway, here's the summary of my upgrade from 4.10 to 5.3: Everything looked like it worked (I didn't get the errors that you did on make buildworld), however the machine started acting flaky within 24 hours after the upgrade. I can't remember what exactly it was doing, but I ended up doing a clean install of 5.3. Hope that helps. -- dave [ please don't CC me ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 09:21:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8831116A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:21:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ninja.terrabionic.com (ninja.terrabionic.com [213.187.181.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3469043D2F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:21:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johann@terrabionic.com) Received: by ninja.terrabionic.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BAC1B2E; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:20:26 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:20:25 +0100 From: jsha To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041221092025.GA21943@ninja.terrabionic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD ninja.terrabionic.com 5.3-STABLE i386 X-Location: Bergen, Norway, Europe Subject: FreeBSD just won't boot! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:21:55 -0000 --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hello. I'm trying to install FreeBSD 5.3 on a HP Compaq DC7100 but it doesn't want to boot after the installation. I've tried a few things here: 1) Installing with/without ACPI 2) Installing with BootMgr as well as Standard MBR 3) Entered the BIOS setup (F10) to look for solving options And I've also tried Google. No luck though. I'd appreciate any help I'd get. Thanks. -- j. --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBx+rZeF7Rq67IV2wRAhSvAJsGHXv/TFuo5O4aob3cA9lxih/ykgCcDlBs I267F94za7GAkj//Z6VP5g8= =pkl3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 09:47:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A334916A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:47:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from szerver.siodigit.hu (ns.siodigit.hu [194.143.225.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492BC43D1D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:47:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from feczo@siodigit.hu) Received: from feczo.sdi.hu ([192.168.0.217]) by szerver.siodigit.hu with esmtp (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1Cggbm-000ErG-Lg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:47:14 +0100 From: Feczak Szabolcs To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain Organization: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Si=F3digit?= Kft. Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:43:51 +0100 Message-Id: <1103622231.28080.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -5.8 (-----) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "szerver.siodigit.hu", hasmessagelabel similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details.ImI310101/16/63isplease consult the Hardware Guide int the doc submenu or use the (G)eom command to change it now" [...] Content analysis details: (-5.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description -------------------------------------------------- -3.3 ALL_TRUSTED Did not pass through any untrusted hosts Young1% [score: 0.0000]white-list Subject: Geometry and Mirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:47:19 -0000 I just do not get this. I have read the manual and Im still in the fog I used to install FreeBSD and when it came to fdisk, I have ignored the following warning: "WARNING: A gemotry of 310101/16/63 for ad0 is incorrect, using a more likely geometry. If this geometry is incorrect or you are unsure as to wheteher or not it is correct please consult the Hardware Guide int the doc submenu or use the (G)eom command to change it now" It was no problem at all, since when I have started to use raid mirror with g(eom)mirror. The problem came when after reboot the system recognized different C/H/S values for the identical disks. According to dmesg it was either 310098/16/63, or sometimes: 310101/16/63 The BIOS setting was autodetect for both drives. And gmirror complained, that one drive is smaller then the other, so the mirror has been destroyed ... I thought I should dig this up, since its realy uneasy situation. The fdisk warning advises to read the Hardware Guide in the doc submenu, though this section doesn't have a word about geometry. The Handbook Allocating Disk Space chapter says: "FreeBSD does not use the BIOS, and does not know the ``logical BIOS drive mapping''. This can lead to very perplexing situations, especially when drives are physically identical in geometry, and have also been made as data clones of one another. When using FreeBSD, always restore the BIOS to natural drive numbering before installing FreeBSD, and then leave it that way. If you need to switch drives around, then do so, but do it the hard way, and open the case and move the jumpers and cables." Peplexing situations ... and realy Sysinstal/fdisk says "Remember: you need to enter whatever your BIOS thinks the geometry is!" Ok, bios can think 3 things: 65535/16/255 CHS 4095/240/255 Large 16643/255/63 LBA If I say CHS or Large values at the geom prompt, I receive the same message: "WARNING: A gemotry of xxx/xxx/xxx is incorrect". Only the LBA values are accepted, though 16643/255/63 results 130551 Mb, which is much lower than 152625 Mb with the propused 19457/255/63 values by fdisk. I thought I accept the values 19457/255/63, and it stores this somewhere, though on next sysinstall it still complains about this. So what mode (CHS,LBA,Large) should I set in the BIOS (autodetect seems to be riksy ...) ? What geometry should I use in sysinstall/fdisk ? Will this geometry warning always come ? Will dmesg output ever display a correct value instead of 310098/16/63 ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 09:56:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65CF16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:56:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from male.aldigital.co.uk (male.thebunker.net [213.129.64.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E7843D45 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:56:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by male.aldigital.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1F1B97679; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:56:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1])iBL9uGgh067565; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:56:17 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <41C7F33B.7000509@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:56:11 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041213) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcio Cardenuto Mallavazzi References: <3B5700417F70BA4CA7D2EA98375EF64003157033@CAUUNI2K000MSG.unibanco> In-Reply-To: <3B5700417F70BA4CA7D2EA98375EF64003157033@CAUUNI2K000MSG.unibanco> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigBA0631C75CB1FFC49FDFF90D" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:56:20 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBA0631C75CB1FFC49FDFF90D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marcio Cardenuto Mallavazzi wrote: > I have a doubt about FreeBSD 5.3. What is it: a Stable or a Release > version? > I'm sorry if this is a Dumb Question, but I guess it's a Stable Version. > Specially because it's a Production Release. Actually, there are both -RELEASE and -STABLE versions numbered 5.3 at the moment. 5.3-RELEASE-p2 is the latest patchlevel on the RELENG_5_3 /Release/ branch. It's the recommended version version for new installs and should be suitable for most server tasks. 5.3-STABLE is a moving target from the RELENG_4 development branch. It should run stably and it can be used usefully as a desktop system or whatever, but tracking -STABLE is not recommended for *absolutely has to be up 24x7* type applications, because new functionality and support for new hardware will be introduced, which can result in problems occasionally. (In practice this very rarely happens: which is a great tribute to the degree of care taken by FreeBSD developers). See: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK --------------enigBA0631C75CB1FFC49FDFF90D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQcfzQJr7OpndfbmCAQKpWgP/eP7wLEjZ8BgcsJ/yZD7uFEZ4RCc3Bbev G+ea/yvOT0dICyQC8la0rXeF5HbkfRtUNxM8Qac+m1OGvro2lQpYNBngyLiIwt06 CxTsPF2iDJZ0X9lreaRyHwVBAVoWwJWRvZUb5L7Xv9CJRcxHgJMHP15E/zHVFzrw 4GgpiGASeDI= =xQXZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigBA0631C75CB1FFC49FDFF90D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 09:57:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FA716A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:57:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.178.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BFA43D2D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:57:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@uni-mainz.de) Received: from [134.93.183.16] (edda.Geo.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.183.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54AED30006E9 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:57:19 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C7F397.90902@uni-mainz.de> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:57:43 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Institut =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr_Geophysik?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; de-AT; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041113 X-Accept-Language: de-de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41C58F92.3060108@uni-mainz.de> <20041220191923.GA32770@catflap.slightlystrange.org> <41C7D6D2.5080801@uni-mainz.de> <41C7E1CF.4030609@uni-mainz.de> In-Reply-To: <41C7E1CF.4030609@uni-mainz.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at uni-mainz.de Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 and BIND9 problems! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:57:20 -0000 O. Hartmann schrieb: > O. Hartmann schrieb: > >> Daniel Bye schrieb: >> >>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 03:26:26PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Dear Sirs. >>>> Compiling PHP 5.0.3 from PHP.NET, PHP 5.0.2 from ./ports collection >>>> and PHP5-SNAP from php.net fail in compiling in FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE >>>> (cvsupdated and rebuilt today!) with an error that seems to be >>>> BIND9 specific: >>>> >>>> ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1d49): In function `.L166': >>>> : undefined reference to `res_ninit' >>>> ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1db5): In function `.L166': >>>> : undefined reference to `res_nmkquery' >>>> ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1de7): In function `.L166': >>>> : undefined reference to `res_nsend' >>>> ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1f6a): In function `.L166': >>>> : undefined reference to `res_nclose' >>>> >>>> I searched the web and mailing lists for this problem and I found >>>> out, that PHP won't compile when FreeBSD 5.x lacks in BIND9. As I >>>> know, FreeBSD 5.3 definitely has BIND9, but why is PHP not >>>> compiling the expected way? /usr/include/resolv.h does not have any >>>> definitions for the above mentioned routines and it seems to be a >>>> 'weird' failure, maybe something I missed when installing 'world'? >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> You don't by any chance have NO_BIND set in /etc/make.conf? I've been >>> caught out by a similar failure in the past... >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> >>> >> NO_BIND isn't set as it wasn't set before. >> I checked the installed /usr/include/resolv.h again and found that no >> one of the missing >> routines shown above are within this include file, so it seemes to me >> strange ... >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > All right, maybe this is of suitable help: > > This is a port of the ./configure output, when configurte checks > system properties: > > checking for res_nmkquery... no > checking for __res_nmkquery... no > checking for res_nmkquery in -lresolv... no > checking for __res_nmkquery in -lresolv... no > checking for res_nmkquery in -lbind... no > checking for __res_nmkquery in -lbind... yes > checking for res_nsend... no > checking for __res_nsend... yes > checking for dn_expand... yes > > Should this mean that the problem is a PHP5 problem? Shorthand solution: renaming all the missing routines in ext/standard/dns.c with a preceding '__' - and it works! This job should be done via autoconf, but it doesn't ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 10:14:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D54316A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:14:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 9.hellooperator.net (cpc3-cdif2-3-0-cust202.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.32.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D5143D5D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:14:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputin@hellooperator.net) Received: from rasputin by 9.hellooperator.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Cgh1z-0000No-KG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:14:15 +0000 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:14:15 +0000 From: Dick Davies To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20041221101415.GA12067@lb.tenfour> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: Dick Davies Subject: re: bash- superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dick Davies List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:14:17 -0000 (sorry if I cocked up your threading, readers - I accidentally deleted Gregs mail and so pasted this from google groups). > .... There are a couple of reasons why this shouldn't > happen: > > 1. You don't normally start networking until you have mounted your > local file systems. > 2. The problem is related to the invocation of su(1). It's not clear > why that's there. > > Still, it shows that there are issues. It may be sufficient to > document them. People who follow the advice in "The Complete FreeBSD" > won't run into this problem, since they won't install a separate /usr > file system. I thought the issue was the ldconfig path not being set up at the point that pppd called su? pppd lives in /usr, after all :) Assuming that's wrong, doesn't freebsd have a notion of 'critical filesystems' and and 'pre-networking filesystems' a la NetBSD? I used to have to set this on netbsd to get wicontrol from /usr before dhcp.... > > and would be a non-issue if you statically linked bash (I can't > > think of any reason to want a dynamically linked one). > > One reason is that bash pulls in a lot of libraries. That's why we > used dynamic libraries in the first place. That's a bit of a circular argument, isn't it? :) People Who Know have advised me in the past that the VM system performs better if you statically link common binaries - you get better reuse of memory. -- 'The pie is ready. You guys like swarms of things, right?' -- Bender Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 10:27:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7F316A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:27:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from male.aldigital.co.uk (male.thebunker.net [213.129.64.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E1443D31 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:27:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by male.aldigital.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219AC97679; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:27:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1])iBLARcJ2067707; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:27:39 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <41C7FA95.3060209@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:27:33 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041213) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Noah References: <20041221063032.M20012@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <20041221063032.M20012@enabled.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig34F58CD8796412622EF957C7" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: phpMyAdmin 2.6.1-rc1 cant create database X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:27:42 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig34F58CD8796412622EF957C7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Noah wrote: > > phpMyAdmin 2.6.1-rc1 > freeBSD-4.9 > > phpMyAdmin claims that there are no priviledges to create a database even as > root. how do I fix this? All phpMyAdmin is doing is reporting what MySQL tells it. If you used the mysql(1) command line interface from that account, you'll see exactly the same problem. You need to check the privilege settings within mysql to enable that capability -- note that the capabilities functionality has been revised and extended in recent MySQL releases so it's entirely possible that even if you started out with root@yourhostname with ALL PRIVILEGES, after a few upgrades, that account might be lacking a few new privileges nowadays. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK --------------enig34F58CD8796412622EF957C7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQcf6mpr7OpndfbmCAQKeJwQAoBi0OQArg7L8pOlTT7JF25EMuaBs7nNj 0XqjSiWRH8tHSWQn2Me4yZv9BH2YBVziyF5g0dZc99WTkS3HlDUyxah2SX/r9iB6 0qgMPsBl7ZGvhUWwACeqf4N2KxfNtVvTaPp4L1dFF9S+MGX0x11f/8VgGmIN945X MtsmXH5e1nM= =Qj08 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig34F58CD8796412622EF957C7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 10:34:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441B816A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:34:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F238443D4C for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:34:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard-seibert@rcn.com) Received: from 207-237-110-41.c3-0.crm-ubr4.crm.ny.cable.rcn.com ([207.237.110.41] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #7) id 1CghLC-0004xX-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:34:06 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:34:06 -0500 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: Gerard@FreeBSD.ORG, Seibert@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: Gerard Seibert Mail-Reply-To: Gerard Seibert Organization: Poor Precedence: It Has Been Done Before Message-Id: <20041221053357.B6E5.GERARD-SEIBERT@rcn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.12.01 [en] Subject: 'portsdb -Uu' vs 'make fetchindex' vs 'make index' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Reply-To: Gerard Seibert List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:34:07 -0000 I am not sure if I quite understand this entire ports updating scenario correctly. I I run the command: 'cvsup ports-supfile', I then need to run either 'portsdb -Uu' or 'make index'. I also have the option of running 'make fetchindex' in place of either of those two proceeding commands. Is that correct? I would assume, that I should run the 'make fetchindex' command immediately after running the 'cvsup' command. Does anyone have any suggestions as to a better way to accomplish this feat? Thanks! Gerard Seibert gerard-seibert@rcn.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 10:39:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756CF16A512 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:39:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.wanadoo.fr (smtp3.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9976B43D58 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:39:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cbaud@laposte.net) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0304.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 5440D1C00C60 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:39:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from libra.baudcl-liber.fr (AAmiens-151-1-38-39.w83-192.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.192.52.39]) by mwinf0304.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DDFBB1C00CAD for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:39:50 +0100 (CET) From: "Claude B." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Message-Id: <1103629242.2718.5.camel@libra.baudcl-liber.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4-8mdk Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:40:42 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: RAID1 and ASUS PSCH-L motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:39:54 -0000 Hello, I intalled FreeBSD 5.3 without problem on my ASUS PSCH-L server motherboard. I setup a RAID 1 array in the BIOS of the Promise PDC20319 controller and I boot on the RAID array: "Hard Disk Drives:[FT TX Ary 1]". FreeBSD 5.3 supports perfectly this controller in view of the atacontrol commands and all seem ok: # atacontrol list ATA channel 0: Master: acd0 ATA/ATAPI revision 4 Slave: no device present ATA channel 1: Master: no device present Slave: no device present ATA channel 2: Master: no device present Slave: no device present ATA channel 3: Master: ad6 Slave: no device present ATA channel 4: Master: no device present Slave: no device present ATA channel 5: Master: ad10 Slave: no device present # atacontrol status ar0 ar0: ATA RAID1 subdisks: ad6 ad10 status: READY # I have two questions: 1)Can someone explain to me why the disks numbering ad6 et ad10? 2)How to do to check the RAID 1 is operational without all to break? Here the ships of my board: Chipset Intel E7210 (CanterWood-ES) Memory Controller Hub -Intel 6300ESB IO Controller Hub (Hance Rapid) -Support mmoire PC3200 DDR (Unbuffered DIMM, non-ECC et ECC) -Support des bus 64bit/66MHz PCI-X et 32bit/33MHz Contrleur Serial ATA Contrleur Promise PDC20319 4 Port 32bit/66MHz PCI Serial ATA, supportant les modes RAID 0, 1, 0+1 Contrleur Intel 6300ESB IO Hub, provide 2 x Serial ATA supportant les modes RAID 0, 1 IDE Primaire & Secondaire channel bus master IDE ports support ATA100, Multi-Word DMA Mode 2, PIO Mode 3/4. Thank in anticipation, claude -- Cl publique: http://pgp.mit.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 10:44:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B92C16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:44:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4641A43D54 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:44:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost.circlesquared.com [IPv6:::1]) iBLAiaIU058997; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:44:37 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Message-ID: <41C7FE94.3080503@circlesquared.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:44:36 +0000 From: Peter Risdon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041219 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Bennett References: <200412201721.iBKHL1qr029588@mp.cs.niu.edu> In-Reply-To: <200412201721.iBKHL1qr029588@mp.cs.niu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig for WLAN using WEP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:44:51 -0000 Scott Bennett wrote: > Paul Schmehl wrote: > > >>--On Monday, December 20, 2004 02:14:20 AM -0600 Scott Bennett >> wrote: >> >> >>> I've been asked in freebsd-newbies to move this to freebsd-questions, >>>so I'll start with my original message content after this line. >>> I'm trying to get my FreeBSD 5.2.1 system to connect to our household >>>wireless net. The router and the only other computer in the household are >>>using WEP, so my FreeBSD machine needs to do so as well. Unfortunately, >>>whenever I add a WEP-related argument (e.g., wep, wepkey, wepmode) to the >>>ifconfig command, as in >>> >>> ifconfig fwe0 wep >>> >>>I get >>> >>> ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument fwe is not a wireless interface, it's ethernet over firewire. You're not really giving enough information in this post. What is your wireless card? Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 10:46:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC45816A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:46:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A860D43D4C for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:46:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from conover@rahul.net) Received: from green.rahul.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 83CECBE8E5 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 02:46:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1003 invoked by uid 4199); 21 Dec 2004 10:45:08 -0000 Date: 21 Dec 2004 10:45:08 -0000 Message-ID: <20041221104508.1002.qmail@rahul.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: conover@rahul.net (John Conover) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: UFS2 with Soft Updates Robust? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Conover List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:46:33 -0000 Is UFS2 with soft updates the most robust file system in freebsd? Comments would be appreciated. Thanks, John -- John Conover, conover@rahul.net, http://www.johncon.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 10:57:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF3316A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:57:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (ei.xs4all.nl [213.84.67.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8A543D66 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:57:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBLAxk0l077440; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:59:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBLAxk2w077439; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:59:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:59:46 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: Tom Vilot Message-ID: <20041221105946.GB53768@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Tom Vilot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> <20041220120620.GA68520@duplo.dahoam> <20041220133252.GB7774@lb.tenfour> <20041220145227.GA24495@ei.bzerk.org> <41C6EE24.4080606@vilot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C6EE24.4080606@vilot.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=failed version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on ei.bzerk.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:57:22 -0000 On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 08:22:12AM -0700, Tom Vilot typed: > > Admittedly, I'm still a bit of a noob, but I can't stand any shell but > bash. That's fine untill you're going to troubleshoot/administer a system with no bash installed. > >No problem for people to be productive with bash or whatever shell they > >prefer. Just not for root. You should not even use the root account unless > >absolutely necessary. > > > > Ya mean like ... > > ... editing /etc/rc.conf > ... installing a port or package > ... updating the ports tree and/or running portupgrade > ... configuring the firewall > ... backing up the file system > ... checking /var/log files for attempts at cracking > ... reading root's email > ... rsyncing to a remote server > > I would be curious how I could do any of the above as someone other than > root. While most of these tasks do indeed require root-privileges, none of them requires more then a single command line. This command line would be exactly the same wether you're using bash or [[t]c]sh so there's no reason for changing root's default shell here. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 11:01:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6863216A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:01:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (ei.xs4all.nl [213.84.67.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FA543D3F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:01:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBLB4CiQ077511; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:04:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBLB4C4F077510; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:04:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:04:12 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: Erik Norgaard Message-ID: <20041221110412.GC53768@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Erik Norgaard , FreeBSD Questions References: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> <20041220120620.GA68520@duplo.dahoam> <20041220133252.GB7774@lb.tenfour> <20041220145227.GA24495@ei.bzerk.org> <41C6EE24.4080606@vilot.com> <41C6F670.7090602@locolomo.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C6F670.7090602@locolomo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=failed version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on ei.bzerk.org cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:01:46 -0000 On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:57:36PM +0100, Erik Norgaard typed: ... > But I do like that bash shows me the options when autocomplete does not > have a unique completion. set autolist will do the equivalent in [t]csh Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 11:05:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4514216A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:05:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F0E43D3F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:05:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])iBLB4vS8015787; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:04:58 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) iBLB4vcc011220; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:04:57 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)iBLB4u00011219; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:04:56 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:04:56 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Joshua Tinnin Message-ID: <20041221110456.GA11107@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> <20041220162538.GA1206@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> <20041220164151.GA847@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <200412200932.37029.krinklyfig@spymac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200412200932.37029.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrating from thunderbird to mutt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:05:03 -0000 On 2004-12-20 09:32, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > On Monday 20 December 2004 08:41 am, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > So, why do people fear real MTAs so much and try to do their work > > with "light, fast, broken, almost-there MTAs"? > > As for me, it's because my box is in a LAN with a router using a dynamic > IP, so I can't get a fully-qualified domain name. You can always install a local DNS server that allows 'internal' machines to use their own domain (only visible to internal hosts) but forwards all other requests to your ISPs name servers. > This also causes some minor issues with fbsd, but not so much that I > can't work with it. As for using Sendmail as the MTA just so Mutt can > pass off email to an SMTP server, I've tried configuring it for weeks > now, and I'm still not there. You have to solve the DNS problems first. Sendmail, like all MTAs I've seen, depends on a working DNS setup. > I may end up using esmtp if it can save some headaches, although I > purposely tried to get Sendmail to work so that I could do it the > "right" way. Well, I still want to learn, but it's one of the most > confusing and frustrating experiences I've ever had dealing with > software, and I'm not alone in this. This list is frequented by many knowledgeable people who can help you with setting up Sendmail on FreeBSD. You may be pointed at README files like `/usr/share/sendmail/cf/README' from time to time, but it never hurts to ask :-) > *That's* why people fear "real" MTAs so much, because mail transfer > protocols and software at the low level is very complicated and > extremely finicky in ways that aren't documented clearly. I see. You do have a point there :/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 11:07:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39C016A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:07:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30F543D1D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:07:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])iBLB72Wx016201; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:07:03 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) iBLB727C011259; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:07:02 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)iBLB6xZA011248; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:06:59 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:06:59 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: jsha Message-ID: <20041221110659.GB11107@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20041221092025.GA21943@ninja.terrabionic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041221092025.GA21943@ninja.terrabionic.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD just won't boot! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:07:07 -0000 On 2004-12-21 10:20, jsha wrote: > > Hello. > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 5.3 on a HP Compaq DC7100 but it doesn't > want to boot after the installation. I've tried a few things here: > > 1) Installing with/without ACPI > 2) Installing with BootMgr as well as Standard MBR > 3) Entered the BIOS setup (F10) to look for solving options > > And I've also tried Google. > > No luck though. I'd appreciate any help I'd get. Try disabling DMA for CD-ROMs and/or disks. I've seen some systems that fail to work with DMA in FreeBSD 5.X From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 11:17:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E147916A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:17:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (wcborstel.demon.nl [82.161.134.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178DF43D1F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:17:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jorn@wcborstel.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB8C439A for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:18:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.wcborstel.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 86881-03 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:18:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF273438E for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:18:06 +0100 (CET) From: "Jorn Argelo" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:18:06 +0100 Message-Id: <20041221111315.M60043@wcborstel.nl> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 213.160.254.37 (jorn) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.wcborstel.nl Subject: [OT] rrdtool examples X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:17:48 -0000 Hi all, I've been playing around with rrdtool for quite a while, but I still don't really get it. I've been trying to find some example scripts for rrdtool, but I really can't find much of them. I have found Erik de Mare's perl scripts already. However, the author does not reply to his mail, and only a few of his scripts work. Unfortunately I don't have any perl knowledge, so I cannot fix them myself. So my question is, do you guys know where I can find some other RRDtool example scripts? Preferably something involving with CPU load, apache stats and MySQL stats. All examples are welcome though :) Thanks alot, Jorn. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 11:17:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006F616A4CF for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:17:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (ei.xs4all.nl [213.84.67.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5368143D39 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:17:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBLBKDfm077709; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:20:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBLBKDMY077708; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:20:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:20:13 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: Frank Knobbe Message-ID: <20041221112013.GD53768@ei.bzerk.org> References: <2a37e1ef0412191423786ac08a@mail.gmail.com> <2a37e1ef04122014336d489e29@mail.gmail.com> <20041220230113.GA48865@knobbe.us> <2a37e1ef0412201504436ef3e7@mail.gmail.com> <20041220230831.GA53582@knobbe.us> <2a37e1ef041220151358deab93@mail.gmail.com> <20041220233152.GB53582@knobbe.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041220233152.GB53582@knobbe.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=failed version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on ei.bzerk.org cc: Daniel Johansson cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Do I have to rebuild my jails too when I rebuild the server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:17:48 -0000 On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 05:31:52PM -0600, Frank Knobbe typed: > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 12:13:08AM +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: > > I see. So if I've got a synced jail and host then top will work? I > > thought top never worked inside jail for some memoryissue or something > > like that? > > No, I was using that as an example for the host. I don't think top will work > in a jail. It works. Allthough I'm not completely sure about 4.x jails. Maybe you need to mount /proc to make it work there. Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 11:34:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47F816A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:34:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av7-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (av7-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.109]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E2443D3F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:34:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: by av7-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id DC45C37F72; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:34:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (smtp4-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.180]) by av7-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2AF37E66 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:34:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h201n1fls24o1048.bredband.comhem.se [212.181.162.201]) by smtp4-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A19337E43 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:34:25 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 16976 invoked by uid 1001); 21 Dec 2004 11:34:24 -0000 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:34:24 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Dick Davies Message-ID: <20041221113424.GA16961@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Dick Davies , FreeBSD Questions References: <20041221101415.GA12067@lb.tenfour> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041221101415.GA12067@lb.tenfour> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: bash- superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:34:28 -0000 On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 10:14:15AM +0000, Dick Davies wrote: > > (sorry if I cocked up your threading, readers - I accidentally deleted > Gregs mail and so pasted this from google groups). > > > .... There are a couple of reasons why this shouldn't > > happen: > > > > 1. You don't normally start networking until you have mounted your > > local file systems. > > 2. The problem is related to the invocation of su(1). It's not clear > > why that's there. > > > > Still, it shows that there are issues. It may be sufficient to > > document them. People who follow the advice in "The Complete FreeBSD" > > won't run into this problem, since they won't install a separate /usr > > file system. > > I thought the issue was the ldconfig path not being set up at the point > that pppd called su? > > pppd lives in /usr, after all :) Not quite. The issue was that the /etc/rc.d/ppp-user script calls su. su starts a shell - in this case it tried to start bash since that was root's shell. At that point in the process the system was not yet configured to find the libraries bash needed. ppp as such was fairly irrelevant - it was su that caused the problems. > > Assuming that's wrong, doesn't freebsd have a notion of 'critical filesystems' > and and 'pre-networking filesystems' a la NetBSD? > I used to have to set this on netbsd to get wicontrol from /usr before dhcp.... Probably, but /usr/local is probably not normally considered to be one. > > > > and would be a non-issue if you statically linked bash (I can't > > > think of any reason to want a dynamically linked one). > > > > One reason is that bash pulls in a lot of libraries. That's why we > > used dynamic libraries in the first place. > > That's a bit of a circular argument, isn't it? :) People Who Know have > advised me in the past that the VM system performs better if you statically > link common binaries - you get better reuse of memory. That depends. If you run many instances of the same binary at the same time you will probably get slightly better performance if it is statically linked. On the other hand if you several different binaries running all linked to the same libraries, then you get better memory reuse if they are dynamically linked since only one copy of the library needs to be loaded into memory (at least the code parts of the library.) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 11:54:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C1D16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:54:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 9.hellooperator.net (cpc3-cdif2-3-0-cust202.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.32.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F07343D1F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:54:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputin@hellooperator.net) Received: from rasputin by 9.hellooperator.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1CgibQ-0000cI-SC; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:54:56 +0000 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:54:56 +0000 From: Dick Davies To: Erik Trulsson Message-ID: <20041221115456.GG12067@lb.tenfour> References: <20041221101415.GA12067@lb.tenfour> <20041221113424.GA16961@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041221113424.GA16961@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: Dick Davies cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: bash- superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dick Davies List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:54:59 -0000 * Erik Trulsson [1234 11:34]: > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 10:14:15AM +0000, Dick Davies wrote: > > I thought the issue was the ldconfig path not being set up at the point > > that pppd called su? > > > > pppd lives in /usr, after all :) > > Not quite. The issue was that the /etc/rc.d/ppp-user script calls su. > su starts a shell - in this case it tried to start bash since that was > root's shell. At that point in the process the system was not yet > configured to find the libraries bash needed. ppp as such was fairly > irrelevant - it was su that caused the problems. Sure, I mean that the filesystem *is* mounted at this point, so Greg not having a separate /usr won't help in this case. > > Assuming that's wrong, doesn't freebsd have a notion of 'critical filesystems' > > and and 'pre-networking filesystems' a la NetBSD? > > I used to have to set this on netbsd to get wicontrol from /usr before dhcp.... > > Probably, but /usr/local is probably not normally considered to be one. No, exactly, but my point is that if you were going to be using stuff from /usr/local, then you could set this in rc.conf and be sure: a) it was mounted b) ldconfig had at least looked at /usr/local/lib b) is tricky, on netbsd we generally do our linking at compile time so this kind of thing isn't an issue, so long as /usr/local/lib is available bash will work). -- 'When the door hits you in the ass on the way out, clean off the smudge your ass leaves, please' -- Alien loves Predator Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 12:01:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A3E16A547 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:01:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 9.hellooperator.net (cpc3-cdif2-3-0-cust202.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.32.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661A843D41 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:01:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputin@hellooperator.net) Received: from rasputin by 9.hellooperator.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Cgihf-0000EP-Dj; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:01:23 +0000 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:01:23 +0000 From: Dick Davies To: Jorn Argelo Message-ID: <20041221120123.GH12067@lb.tenfour> References: <20041221111315.M60043@wcborstel.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041221111315.M60043@wcborstel.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: Dick Davies cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: [OT] rrdtool examples X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dick Davies List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:01:25 -0000 * Jorn Argelo [1218 11:18]: > Hi all, > > I've been playing around with rrdtool for quite a while, but I still don't > really get it. I've been trying to find some example scripts for rrdtool, but > I really can't find much of them. I have found Erik de Mare's perl scripts > already. However, the author does not reply to his mail, and only a few of > his scripts work. Unfortunately I don't have any perl knowledge, so I cannot > fix them myself. > > So my question is, do you guys know where I can find some other RRDtool > example scripts? Preferably something involving with CPU load, apache stats > and MySQL stats. All examples are welcome though :) Have a look at rrdtutorial (in a man/ directory near you), its' fairly well written. I knocked together some simple scripts to monitor some appservers (disk,cpu,process count etc) but they get unwieldy very quickly - just a few boxes and it started to get out of hand. If you're going to be doing any gathering/graphing for this kind of thing, have a look at cricket (ports/net-mgmt/cricket) - it makes using RRD a breeze (though I would still read the tutorial at least, it does help to have a rough understanding of the backend). Favours SNMP, but you can use any script you like easily enough (I have a ruby-ldap based version that pulls stats directly from openldap, and it took an hour to get it graphing). -- 'In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.' -- The Guide Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 12:25:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5EA16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:25:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4AC143D54 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:25:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20041221122511i92002ae1ce>; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:25:11 +0000 Message-ID: <41C81621.50906@nbritton.org> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:25:05 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Armada 17xx, ACPI thermal management broken. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:25:13 -0000 Hello, I have a Compaq Armada 1750 laptop and ACPI is some what broken. If I enable ACPI the fan will never run causing the system to overheat and shutdown, there are a few other problems with ACPI but this is the major one. This is a standard 440BX/MX chipset (82443BX) so I don't understand why this doesn't work yet with FreeBSD, Is this a problem with my DSDT/AML/ASL whatever? The work around in the bug report I submitted ( http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=i386/72566 ) does not work if the system is below the hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx threshold, if it is below this threshold at system boot the fan will NEVER turn on even if hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active=1 is set in loader.conf. Any help would be appreciated on ether fixing this problem or a way to use ACPI but disable the thermal monitoring so the system can control the fan? Also... in the bug report there is a link to a Linux kernel patch that fixes this problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 12:26:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E8E16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:26:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D640043D2D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:26:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from j@essen-moller.com) Received: from [192.168.1.111] ([213.238.209.187] [213.238.209.187]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20041221122615.QABB6820.mxfep02.bredband.com@[192.168.1.111]> for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:26:15 +0100 Message-ID: <41C81665.6030607@essen-moller.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:26:13 +0100 From: Jon Essen-Moller User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Redirect to /dev/null X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:26:18 -0000 Hi, I saw this thread and wish to now what /2>&1 /does and maybe you know a place where I can find out more about this? Best regards - Jon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 12:43:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5813116A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:43:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F6D43D64 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:43:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20041221124309i92002b4lae>; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:43:09 +0000 Message-ID: <41C81A5B.9020301@nbritton.org> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:43:07 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikolas Britton References: <41C81621.50906@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: <41C81621.50906@nbritton.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Armada 17xx, ACPI thermal management broken. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:43:10 -0000 Nikolas Britton wrote: > Hello, > I have a Compaq Armada 1750 laptop and ACPI is some what broken. If I > enable ACPI the fan will never run causing the system to overheat and > shutdown, there are a few other problems with ACPI but this is the > major one. This is a standard 440BX/MX chipset (82443BX) so I don't > understand why this doesn't work yet with FreeBSD, Is this a problem > with my DSDT/AML/ASL whatever? The work around in the bug report I > submitted ( http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=i386/72566 ) > does not work if the system is below the hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx > threshold, if it is below this threshold at system boot the fan will > NEVER turn on even if hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active=1 is set in loader.conf. > > Any help would be appreciated on ether fixing this problem or a way to > use ACPI but disable the thermal monitoring so the system can control > the fan? > > Also... in the bug report there is a link to a Linux kernel patch that > fixes this problem. > > Also is it not possible to just extract the AML code from that patch an use it to make a FreeBSD patch? I don't know as I'm not a programmer and I'm not sure of GPL issues From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 12:48:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B9216A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:48:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (ei.xs4all.nl [213.84.67.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DB243D39 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:48:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBLCoR8F078488; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:50:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBLCoRgF078487; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:50:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:50:27 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: "Andrew P." Message-ID: <20041221125027.GE53768@ei.bzerk.org> References: <41C7A6D8.5010908@mail.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C7A6D8.5010908@mail.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=failed version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on ei.bzerk.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote system directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:48:02 -0000 On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 07:30:16AM +0300, Andrew P. typed: > Hello! > > I've got a freebsd box with a 2Gb hard drive and a server with a lot of > free space. I want to make use of nfs and let the "small" box mount most > of its directories in read-write mode from the server. What directories > are safe to be moved to a remote location? The idea is that should the > server go down, the box must still be bootable and accessible via ssh. > > I've read hier manual page, but it doesn't go deep into how bad the > system need each directory at startup - and how heavy access is to each > folder during normal operation. > > Can the system boot into multi-user mode in case /usr fails to mount? No > I'm now experimenting with different subfolders of /usr and other dirs, > and I'd be glad to hear a piece of advice. If I were you I would do a minimal (though complete) installation of FreeBSD on the client machine. Enable sshd and put a script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d to nfs-mount whatever you need from the server. (remember, you can easily mount over an existing directory hierarchy, thereby hiding the original files) Something like: #!/bin/sh # # check if nfs-server is up /usr/bin/showmount -e nfs-server if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then # mount nfs shares /sbin/mount -t nfs nfs-server:/export/usr /usr # etc fi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 13:24:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C84516A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:24:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from allrounder.lame.at (mail.lame.at [195.58.166.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB69A43D2D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:24:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from haimat@lame.at) Received: from itchy.lame.at (home.lame.at [80.78.254.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by allrounder.lame.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4B02FFBE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:24:22 +0100 (CET) From: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:24:20 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20041218074349.GA58631@skytracker.ca> <200412202105.06748.haimat@lame.at> <04eb01c4e6d2$cf175530$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> In-Reply-To: <04eb01c4e6d2$cf175530$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412211424.20596.haimat@lame.at> Subject: Re: traffic volume monitoring - what program X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:24:24 -0000 ---------- quoting Micheal Patterson ---------- > Can't MRTG get you close enough for that wouldn't it? ... with some more configuration than with ipac-ng, yes :) -- Man: You must be stupider than you look. Homer: Stupider like a fix! Lemon of Troy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 13:28:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3B916A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:28:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from allrounder.lame.at (mail.lame.at [195.58.166.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B13F43D45 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:28:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from haimat@lame.at) Received: from itchy.lame.at (home.lame.at [80.78.254.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by allrounder.lame.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2991F2FFBE; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:28:47 +0100 (CET) From: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" To: jreeder@minutemenu.com Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:28:45 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <41C7525A.7020509@audioweb.no> <1103609837.3637.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1103609837.3637.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412211428.45583.haimat@lame.at> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell CERC SATA 2S question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:28:48 -0000 ---------- quoting Jonathan Reeder ---------- > Hmm, well since I'm stuck with the hardware that I've been given, does > that mean that I need to pursue a different OS? I'd love to run FreeBSD > on this server, but I can't change any of its hardware so do I need to > look at Linux? I am not a FreeBSD guru, but if your hardware isn't supported by FreeBSD and you are not interested in code hacking then I am afraid you have no other choice then chaning OS :( -- Lisa: So gambling makes a good thing even better? Homer: That's right. My God, it's like there's some kind of bond between us. Lisa the Greek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 13:32:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2EF116A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:32:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from allrounder.lame.at (mail.softlink.at [195.58.166.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F81643D46 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:32:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from haimat@lame.at) Received: from itchy.lame.at (home.lame.at [80.78.254.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by allrounder.lame.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2282FFBE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:32:35 +0100 (CET) From: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:32:34 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <41C81665.6030607@essen-moller.com> In-Reply-To: <41C81665.6030607@essen-moller.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412211432.34372.haimat@lame.at> Subject: Re: Redirect to /dev/null X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:32:43 -0000 ---------- quoting Jon Essen-Moller ---------- > I saw this thread and wish to now what /2>&1 /does and maybe you know a > place where I can find out more about this? > Best regards - Jon "2>&1" means "redirect STDERR (2) to STDOUT (1)" a good starting point for further research would be "man bash" Greetings, Matthias -- Homer: Your mother and I have been thinking about giving the puppies away. Bart and Lisa: Noooooo! Homer: Mainly your mother. Two Dozen and One Greyhounds From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 13:35:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157A516A4CE; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:35:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E2B43D1F; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:35:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20041221133453i9100rg06re>; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:34:59 +0000 Message-ID: <41C8267B.2050106@nbritton.org> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:34:51 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikolas Britton References: <41C81621.50906@nbritton.org> <41C81A5B.9020301@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: <41C81A5B.9020301@nbritton.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Armada 17xx, ACPI thermal management broken. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:35:01 -0000 Nikolas Britton wrote: > Nikolas Britton wrote: > >> Hello, >> I have a Compaq Armada 1750 laptop and ACPI is some what broken. If I >> enable ACPI the fan will never run causing the system to overheat and >> shutdown, there are a few other problems with ACPI but this is the >> major one. This is a standard 440BX/MX chipset (82443BX) so I don't >> understand why this doesn't work yet with FreeBSD, Is this a problem >> with my DSDT/AML/ASL whatever? The work around in the bug report I >> submitted ( http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=i386/72566 ) >> does not work if the system is below the hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx >> threshold, if it is below this threshold at system boot the fan will >> NEVER turn on even if hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active=1 is set in >> loader.conf. >> >> Any help would be appreciated on ether fixing this problem or a way >> to use ACPI but disable the thermal monitoring so the system can >> control the fan? >> >> Also... in the bug report there is a link to a Linux kernel patch >> that fixes this problem. >> >> > Also is it not possible to just extract the AML code from that patch > an use it to make a FreeBSD patch? I don't know as I'm not a > programmer and I'm not sure of GPL issues Sorry for the third reply to my own post but I thought this might help, it is a copy of my asl code: http://www.nbritton.org/uploads/compaq/armada_17xx.asl I updated the bug report as well and I'm going to cross post this in freebsd-acpi mailing list. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 20 21:39:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3323B16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:39:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ninja.terrabionic.com (ninja.terrabionic.com [213.187.181.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4D743D46 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:39:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johann@terrabionic.com) Received: by ninja.terrabionic.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4C9CE2E; Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:38:24 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:38:24 +0100 From: jsha To: Jorn Argelo Message-ID: <20041220213824.GA38530@ninja.terrabionic.com> References: <20041219193843.GA34296@ninja.terrabionic.com> <20041219214045.M8970@wcborstel.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041219214045.M8970@wcborstel.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD ninja.terrabionic.com 5.3-STABLE i386 X-Location: Bergen, Norway, Europe X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:43:18 +0000 Subject: Re: FreeBSD doesn't even boot! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:39:56 -0000 --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey! --- Abstract: I'm trying to install FreeBSD on a brand new HP Compaq. But whether I install it with BootMgr or the standard MBR, the computer won't enter the FreeBSD boot process. Instead, it reboots itself in an infinite loop. --- Thanks for the reply so far. FreeBSD still won't boot. > You might want to consider installing a standard MBR during the installat= ion=20 > (so not the FreeBSD bootloader). Then only FreeBSD will boot if you have= =20 > selected the drive as the primary drive in the bios (assuming you have tw= o=20 > disks). If you need your machine badly but can't boot Windows yet? Just > select the other drive in the bios and you're ready to go :) I've now tried both the standard MBR and the FreeBSD bootloader. Both cause my computer to reboot in an infinite loop. > If everything is running, install GRUB or LILO, whatever you prefer. Work= s=20 > better in some cases, and looks nicer as well :) >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Jorn Hope to see you again, Jorn :) -- j. --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBx0ZPeF7Rq67IV2wRAqA5AKDczjtYcO20llMsRWmStSJ38PysTgCfV5rt aog+XHB1iNRR2GyjSZ5JW0Q= =SwwX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 13:51:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D33E416A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:51:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB9B43D49 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:51:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from donnex@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 67so24007wri for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:51:29 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=eAnXiOxqebvcOzd1fqlgpKE6vO963A+p/60Pp6yp67/cpEllwlimfjGXIdXwPiS20WUuxjuSlfFO66lQlM/hdihKXy8TRxQGZiFxqz+Jnqe/lbEWz62OD2TLI5/1Q2UPBZI7hw6tWUxUrUmM0y1WemI4bo3ojeCUmpmSkVY9iPw= Received: by 10.54.49.37 with SMTP id w37mr74302wrw; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:51:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.29.63 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:51:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2a37e1ef0412210551399a6fb0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:51:28 +0100 From: Daniel Johansson To: Ruben de Groot In-Reply-To: <20041221112013.GD53768@ei.bzerk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <2a37e1ef0412191423786ac08a@mail.gmail.com> <2a37e1ef04122014336d489e29@mail.gmail.com> <20041220230113.GA48865@knobbe.us> <2a37e1ef0412201504436ef3e7@mail.gmail.com> <20041220230831.GA53582@knobbe.us> <2a37e1ef041220151358deab93@mail.gmail.com> <20041220233152.GB53582@knobbe.us> <20041221112013.GD53768@ei.bzerk.org> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Do I have to rebuild my jails too when I rebuild the server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Johansson List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:51:30 -0000 Hmm, I've mounted prioc in all my jails but top won't work anyway: $ top kvm_open: short read top: kvm_read for _ccpu: Unknown error: 0 On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:20:13 +0100, Ruben de Groot wrote: > On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 05:31:52PM -0600, Frank Knobbe typed: > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 12:13:08AM +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: > > > I see. So if I've got a synced jail and host then top will work? I > > > thought top never worked inside jail for some memoryissue or something > > > like that? > > > > No, I was using that as an example for the host. I don't think top will work > > in a jail. > > It works. Allthough I'm not completely sure about 4.x jails. Maybe you need > to mount /proc to make it work there. > > Ruben > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 13:54:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3613316A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:54:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13CBC43D41 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:54:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.2/8.13.2) with ESMTP id iBLDsUwf049174; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:54:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: "Andras Kende" , Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 05:54:30 -0800 Message-Id: <20041221135400.M771@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <20041221083201.9BB8D43D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> References: <20041221063032.M20012@enabled.com> <20041221083201.9BB8D43D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 67.161.56.189 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: RE: phpMyAdmin 2.6.1-rc1 cant create database X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:54:35 -0000 On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 02:32:06 -0600, Andras Kende wrote > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Noah > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 12:31 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: phpMyAdmin 2.6.1-rc1 cant create database > > phpMyAdmin 2.6.1-rc1 > freeBSD-4.9 > > phpMyAdmin claims that there are no priviledges to create a database > even as root. how do I fix this? > > cheers, > > Noah > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Hello Noah, > > That's probably more like a mysql privilege problem... > Welcome to phpMyAdmin 2.6.1-rc1 MySQL 4.0.22 running on localhost as > root@localhost, tested to create new db works fine here... > > Do you have something like this in your privileges: > > phpMyAdmin -> Home -> Privileges : > > root localhost Yes ALL PRIVILEGES Yes > Hi there, I dont think that is the answer. I forgot to add that root has all privelegdes. cheers, Noah > Best regards, > > Andras Kende > http://www.kende.com > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 14:13:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF4D16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:13:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A264143D2D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:13:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so35762wri for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:13:33 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=NJOSEjmD9F7JuLD3rRRkZ52HkSI4VE7tZL9QSudAF5a/mVz4Ce28NTsauJ2IAwLNnQFoLq24ebOIg2IZi585pTxDLT07Hl7f4JpXPgj9Hu68b46vjIEIIXXS+lNAoUPlEzTdjCb1oXqtQsyuxqvx2LilpRHxczxbu20JyjQL5fc= Received: by 10.54.14.47 with SMTP id 47mr223485wrn; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:13:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.34 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:13:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:13:32 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Matthias Buelow In-Reply-To: <41C62755.2030705@mukappabeta.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> <41C62755.2030705@mukappabeta.de> cc: Nikolas Britton cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: migrating from thunderbird to mutt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:13:35 -0000 On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 02:13:57 +0100, Matthias Buelow wrote: > Nikolas Britton wrote: > > Can mutt handle um like 5+ email address and have them all separated and > > be able to send from diffrent email accounts? > > No. Yes. > > How does it handle hyperlinks, if I select something will it open up in > > firefox or whatever? > > No. Yes. > > Message filtering, for example I have all the different freebsd mailing > > lists automatically put into different folders, and junk mail sorting? > > No. You have to setup procmail (or a similar program) to do that for you. Wrong. Mutt'll do it just fine. Just wondering; have you ever used or seen Mutt? -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 14:21:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471E816A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:21:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out012.verizon.net (out012pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CEC43D1F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:21:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.252.53]) by out012.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041221142136.NNBY10436.out012.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:21:36 -0600 Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8ED0911861; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:21:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:21:15 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20041221142115.GA65118@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions References: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> <41C62755.2030705@mukappabeta.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out012.verizon.net from [68.163.252.53] at Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:21:35 -0600 Subject: Re: migrating from thunderbird to mutt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:21:37 -0000 On 12/21/04 08:13 AM, Joshua Lokken sat at the `puter and typed: > On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 02:13:57 +0100, Matthias Buelow wrote: > > Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > Can mutt handle um like 5+ email address and have them all separated and > > > be able to send from diffrent email accounts? > > > > No. > > Yes. > > > > How does it handle hyperlinks, if I select something will it open up in > > > firefox or whatever? > > > > No. > > Yes. > > > > Message filtering, for example I have all the different freebsd mailing > > > lists automatically put into different folders, and junk mail sorting? > > > > No. You have to setup procmail (or a similar program) to do that for you. > > Wrong. Mutt'll do it just fine. I have to agree with Joshua here. He's right on all counts, but I've always preferred to have an external application do my filtering, so I do use procmail. That way, mail gets sorted upon arrival instead of when I check my mail. Probably more a matter of preference on that point, but you CAN use mutt. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ԿԬ Bachelor: A guy who is footloose and fiancee-free. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 14:23:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD8816A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:23:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from male.aldigital.co.uk (male.thebunker.net [213.129.64.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153F143D49 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:23:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by male.aldigital.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160D5977FC; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:23:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1])iBLENLh3068337; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:23:21 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <41C831D4.1060200@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:23:16 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041213) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Noah References: <20041221063032.M20012@enabled.com> <20041221083201.9BB8D43D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <20041221135400.M771@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <20041221135400.M771@enabled.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig0A9EE66F94500C4424025639" cc: Andras Kende cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: phpMyAdmin 2.6.1-rc1 cant create database X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:23:32 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig0A9EE66F94500C4424025639 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Noah wrote: > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 02:32:06 -0600, Andras Kende wrote > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Noah >>Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 12:31 AM >>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>Subject: phpMyAdmin 2.6.1-rc1 cant create database >> >>phpMyAdmin 2.6.1-rc1 >>freeBSD-4.9 >> >>phpMyAdmin claims that there are no priviledges to create a database >>even as root. how do I fix this? >>That's probably more like a mysql privilege problem... >>Welcome to phpMyAdmin 2.6.1-rc1 MySQL 4.0.22 running on localhost as >>root@localhost, tested to create new db works fine here... >> >>Do you have something like this in your privileges: >> >>phpMyAdmin -> Home -> Privileges : >> >>root localhost Yes ALL PRIVILEGES Yes > I dont think that is the answer. I forgot to add that root has all privelegdes. Remember that MySQL counts "root" @ "localhost" as a different account to "root" @ "someotherhostname" -- and the question is, which account are you actually using via phpMyAdmin? Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK --------------enig0A9EE66F94500C4424025639 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQcgx2Zr7OpndfbmCAQKkHQP/ebc2F9+ocK9t3L44uedso6wN5iULYQ1J gWjBAe7QlawM8uSiT/PRPdA5ZRD6sNnWtUADpUKjqQruhHjJsO4e401c4X23K6lJ dLR+7xEZcoYB58WBL1i1OdcJvM3rWTUr4pH5C6J74ac7WYSVmSDhmXc6nLAWNyDi +2whoaze3f4= =IAnR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig0A9EE66F94500C4424025639-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 14:23:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12FE16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:23:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms05.mailstreet2003.net (MS05.mailstreet2003.net [63.251.155.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E5443D1D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:23:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@sigd.net) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:23:26 -0500 Message-ID: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC2202AFD593@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Buildworld problems? Thread-Index: AcTmv6vP3aKLfNMXQFuvUU0HYSGL0AAqNXGg From: "Haulmark, Chris" To: "Haulmark, Chris" , Subject: RE: Buildworld problems? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:23:43 -0000 Someone broke the silence:=20 > Hello, >=20 > I was doing a buildworld >=20 > cd /usr/src > make buildworld >=20 > after I updated the source tree with cvsup just before I did > the buildworld. I made clean and make buildworld several > times to see if this would go away. It's been like this on > last Friday and I thought some source changes would fix this so I > tried today after cvsup.=20 >=20 > This system is FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE #0. >=20 > One thing I should acknowledge is that I did build and > installed the kernel right before I did the buildworld. >=20 > I rebooted so I could use the kernel. All the other binaries > are seeming fine at this moment. I have not made any other major > changes.=20 >=20 > I've done many buildworlds before. >=20 > Here is the snip of the error which seems relative to lesskey? >=20 > ln -s /usr/src/usr.bin/lesskey/../../contrib/less/lesskey.nro > lesskey.1 gzip -cn lesskey.1 > lesskey.1.gz > /usr/src/usr.bin/lesskey/../../contrib/less/lesskey.c:137: > `A_U_AGAIN_SEARCH' undeclared here (not in a function) > /usr/src/usr.bin/lesskey/../../contrib/less/lesskey.c:137: > initializer element is not constant > /usr/src/usr.bin/lesskey/../../contrib/less/lesskey.c:137: > (near initialization for `cmdnames[41].cn_action') > /usr/src/usr.bin/lesskey/../../contrib/less/lesskey.c:170: > syntax error before string constant > *** Error code 1 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error >=20 >=20 > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" For references, I just edited in my cvsup config to download the only = src of 4_10. It did a successful buildworld and installworld after = doing the kernel too. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 14:25:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA9716A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:25:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2CE43D2D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:25:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so36945wri for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:25:17 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=qeWzz2z0O4sewX3744V9DJaKFCPiMxcis1CqAgVUA5muxduhB6rufoI9pCWEl98r3QNAd6KgS+7ZrRyIBlaTcf5+/sQWnJddGieGEg7NcZDSbnw+FSbevtBaKQ5K4xcqfxklETf0vYUg69o6VNWicDXRGmU8X2Burti2uBEuABs= Received: by 10.54.6.52 with SMTP id 52mr411888wrf; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:25:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.34 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:25:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:25:17 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Daniel Johansson In-Reply-To: <2a37e1ef04122014336d489e29@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <2a37e1ef0412191423786ac08a@mail.gmail.com> <2a37e1ef04122014336d489e29@mail.gmail.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Do I have to rebuild my jails too when I rebuild the server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:25:20 -0000 On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:33:33 +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: > Okay, thank you but that page didn't help very much. I know how to > rebuild and update the server, and I've done it many times but what I > need to know is if I must rebuild my jails to when I rebuild the > server. Maby the hostsystem and the jail gets out of sync? > > > On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:31:04 -0600, Joshua Lokken > wrote: > > On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:23:26 +0100, Daniel Johansson wrote: > > > I'm a big fan of jails and use three on my server. I also try to keep > > > my server up to date and I rebuild it frequently but when I rebuild my > > > server, update to the latest version, do I also have to rebuild my > > > jails? Apparently you missed the link and the line "Some tips for updating your jails can be found at ;) -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 14:39:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C6916A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:39:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from amber.aeternal.net (amber.in.markiza.sk [62.168.76.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0324543D2F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:39:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from corwin@pleiades.aeternal.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) by amber.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE9AB83D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:41:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from amber.aeternal.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (amber.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 54641-01 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:41:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from pleiades.aeternal.net (pleiades.markiza.sk [192.168.0.7]) by amber.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1256B818 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:41:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from pleiades.aeternal.net (localhost.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) by pleiades.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25B17E862 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:39:18 +0100 (CET) Received: (from corwin@localhost) by pleiades.aeternal.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBLEdH1H048092 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:39:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from corwin) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:39:17 +0100 From: martin hudec To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041221143917.GC871@pleiades.aeternal.net> References: <20041221063032.M20012@enabled.com> <20041221083201.9BB8D43D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <20041221135400.M771@enabled.com> <41C831D4.1060200@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2/5bycvrmDh4d1IB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C831D4.1060200@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Copyright: (C) 2004 Martin Hudec X-Operating-System: FreeBSD pleiades.aeternal.net 6.0-CURRENT i386 X-PGP-Key: http://www.aeternal.net/corwin_aeternal.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at aeternal.net Subject: Re: phpMyAdmin 2.6.1-rc1 cant create database X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: martin hudec List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:39:21 -0000 --2/5bycvrmDh4d1IB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 02:23:16PM +0000 or thereabouts, Matthew Seaman wro= te: > >I dont think that is the answer. I forgot to add that root has all=20 > >privelegdes. >=20 > Remember that MySQL counts "root" @ "localhost" as a different account=20 > to "root" @ "someotherhostname" -- and the question is, which account=20 > are you actually using via phpMyAdmin? >=20 Maybe you're right. I am experiencing this behavior while using MySQL 4.0.22. On other databases using older 4.0.20 there are no differences between local super user and remote super user. I am using remote phpmyadmin user with ALL PRIVILEGES set to him and I am not able to create databases or reload mysql while accessing 4.0.22. Also I am experiencing that MySQL is no longer doing IP resolving, so I have to use IP address instead of hostname for authentication purposes (but this is okay, at least I am not depending on another service for resolving the IP). Cheers, Martin =20 --=20 martin hudec * 421 907 303 393 * corwin@aeternal.net * http://www.aeternal.net "Nothing travels faster than the speed of light with the possible=20 exception of bad news, which obeys its own special laws." Douglas Adams, "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" --2/5bycvrmDh4d1IB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFByDWVZYEZIv+rgggRApUoAJ9vHDkw9YaWZvZh0QfrHLhJHaZslQCghxXk opu4KzvIbJsCFxXHnBnM658= =rk6X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2/5bycvrmDh4d1IB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 14:42:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90DB16A4D1 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:42:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.itconnect.no (mail.itconnect.no [80.89.32.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9ECE43D48 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:42:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roger@audioweb.no) Received: from [192.168.1.204] (oenk7.dsl.itconnect.no [80.89.37.17] (may be forged)) by mail.itconnect.no (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iBLEg6VP002070; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:42:06 +0100 Message-ID: <41C83535.7070706@audioweb.no> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:37:41 +0100 From: "Roger. O. Svenning" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: nb, no, nn MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Claude B." References: <1103629242.2718.5.camel@libra.baudcl-liber.fr> In-Reply-To: <1103629242.2718.5.camel@libra.baudcl-liber.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ITCMAIL-MailScanner-Information: Denne e-posten har passert itConnect AS sin virus vask (internett@itconnect.no) X-ITCMAIL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: roger@audioweb.no cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RAID1 and ASUS PSCH-L motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:42:19 -0000 Claude B. wrote: >I have two questions: >1)Can someone explain to me why the disks numbering ad6 et ad10? > > ata bus 0 (ad0|1) ata bus 1 (ad2|3) ata bus 2 (ad4|5) And so on... Thats just the way freebsd names them. >2)How to do to check the RAID 1 is operational without all to break? > > > No idea on how to do this in a safe manner, sorry. Roger O. Svenning From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 14:42:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1C316A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:42:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9231143D4C for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:42:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 67so30277wri for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:42:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Kadaw9v5Ln8gmMjwSGUd7WySvD/s8ngSpPY1Fzt+AdHCRru9+9+jNH4UcSsCktYW83iuGA2aOh4VM7byyNnIIULf7XWJBN/ouMEkhWSUwkmBAkp4jMfYJaJ+onAtNwbmTbeFXZvqpI02He+uCCvJOqSDrqdYK5+3RWpyIdJ+6tE= Received: by 10.54.47.68 with SMTP id u68mr7715wru; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:42:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.34 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 06:42:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:42:47 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Joerg Pulz In-Reply-To: <20041221075515.R32871@hades.admin.frm2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41C74125.4040807@charter.net> <20041221075515.R32871@hades.admin.frm2> cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: bob Subject: Re: php5.0.3_1 doesn't run after update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:42:49 -0000 On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:59:40 +0100 (CET), Joerg Pulz wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, bob wrote: > > > ... > > portupgrade -v php5 > > > > PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library > > /usr/local/lib/php/20041030/session.so > ^^^^ > > > > In /usr/local/lib/php I have: > > > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1536 Dec 20 13:58 20040412 > ^^^^ > > hi, > > i don't know what was going wrong during your update, but if you take a > closer look at the above lines you will see the cause of your problem. > the directory which contains the extensions is different to the one you > have configured in php.ini. > try to set > extension_dir = /usr/local/lib/php/20040412 > in php.ini and try again. > > yesterday, i made a fresh php5 install and my extensions are in > /usr/local/lib/php/20041030. don't know why this is not the case for you > after upgrading from a previous version. Yes, you'll definitely want to update your ports collection before attempting to 'update' any ports. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 14:48:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE9416A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:48:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from natnoddy.rzone.de (natnoddy.rzone.de [81.169.145.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AAB943D4C for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:48:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) Received: from athena.laverenz.de (pD9550C01.dip.t-dialin.net [217.85.12.1]) by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBLEmTsa028920 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:48:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85039E382854 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:48:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from athena.laverenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (athena [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05805-02 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:48:29 +0100 (CET) Received: by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix, from userid 2000) id B5D60E382852; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:48:29 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:48:29 +0100 From: Uwe Laverenz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041221144829.GA5859@laverenz.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41C81621.50906@nbritton.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C81621.50906@nbritton.org> Organization: private site Sender: uwe@laverenz.de User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at laverenz.de Subject: Re: Armada 17xx, ACPI thermal management broken. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:48:32 -0000 On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 06:25:05AM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote: > Any help would be appreciated on ether fixing this problem or a way to > use ACPI but disable the thermal monitoring so the system can control > the fan? I might be wrong, but I think on the 1750 you should use APM instead of ACPI. I had a 1750 running with FreeBSD 4.x and APM and it worked very well. cu, Uwe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 15:21:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A78316A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:21:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp813.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp813.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 04AF843D5A for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:21:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.26.30 with login) by smtp813.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 15:21:44 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:21:41 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> <200412200932.37029.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <20041221110456.GA11107@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> In-Reply-To: <20041221110456.GA11107@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412210721.41979.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: migrating from thunderbird to mutt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:21:50 -0000 On Tuesday 21 December 2004 03:04 am, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2004-12-20 09:32, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > > On Monday 20 December 2004 08:41 am, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > So, why do people fear real MTAs so much and try to do their work > > > with "light, fast, broken, almost-there MTAs"? > > > > As for me, it's because my box is in a LAN with a router using a > > dynamic IP, so I can't get a fully-qualified domain name. > > You can always install a local DNS server that allows 'internal' > machines to use their own domain (only visible to internal hosts) but > forwards all other requests to your ISPs name servers. > > > This also causes some minor issues with fbsd, but not so much that > > I can't work with it. As for using Sendmail as the MTA just so Mutt > > can pass off email to an SMTP server, I've tried configuring it for > > weeks now, and I'm still not there. > > You have to solve the DNS problems first. Sendmail, like all MTAs > I've seen, depends on a working DNS setup. Yes, I began to realize this somewhere along the line. However, I've managed to get Mutt working with esmtp for now, although Sendmail is still the MTA for the system internally. This is not an ideal solution for me, as I mentioned I want to learn how to do this the right way. But just at the moment I'm not quite ready to tackle DNS (which I'm sure is "easy" for those who know it, but which is almost as confusing as MTAs for those of us who don't). I already have a machine in my LAN set up to use for it when the time comes, so it will happen soon enough. > > I may end up using esmtp if it can save some headaches, although I > > purposely tried to get Sendmail to work so that I could do it the > > "right" way. Well, I still want to learn, but it's one of the most > > confusing and frustrating experiences I've ever had dealing with > > software, and I'm not alone in this. > > This list is frequented by many knowledgeable people who can help you > with setting up Sendmail on FreeBSD. You may be pointed at README > files like `/usr/share/sendmail/cf/README' from time to time, but it > never hurts to ask :-) That's very true, and I appreciate this, but at the same time, at this moment I'm going to wait on configuring local DNS. I've managed to learn quite a bit about FreeBSD since I started using it that sounded completely confusing at first, but at the moment I'm dealing with starting back to college after many years and finding a new job, among other things, so it's not my first priority. But I'll be sure to bring it up when that moment comes, which shouldn't be too long. Oh, just you wait ... ;) > > *That's* why people fear "real" MTAs so much, because mail transfer > > protocols and software at the low level is very complicated and > > extremely finicky in ways that aren't documented clearly. > > I see. You do have a point there :/ Yes, for instance, it took me a long time to figure out what's up with "dnl." I've read through quite a bit at the Sendmail site itself, and, while their documentation is quite thorough, it's also obviously written for developers, moreso than most *nix docs. This is understandable, but there is a steep learning curve for those of us who aren't. Even the handbook recommends installing ssmtp for situations like mine http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/outgoing-only.html but I want to learn all the tools. Anyway, again I appreciate it, and soon enough I'll take you ... or the list ... up on that offer. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 15:46:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B095416A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:46:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.minutemenu.com (mail.minutemenu.com [69.93.74.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FBA43D8A for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:46:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jreeder@minutemenu.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.minutemenu.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.minutemenu.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93BD8228862 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:41:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail.minutemenu.com ([69.93.74.12]) by localhost (lisa.minutemenu.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 75400-06 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:41:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from jreed (unknown [216.138.72.218]) by mail.minutemenu.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C3AAF22859C for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:41:29 -0600 (CST) From: "Jonathan Reeder" To: Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:59:30 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <200412211428.45583.haimat@lame.at> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.minutemenu.com Subject: RE: Dell CERC SATA 2S question -- software RAID instead? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:46:26 -0000 Since the SATA RAID controller in the Dell PE SC420 isn't supported yet, is there anything I can do with atacontrol to run my two drives as a software RAID instead of relying on the controller? I've never used SATA before, so any advice anyone can offer is greatly appreciated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 15:46:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A5016A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:46:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ecserv7.uwaterloo.ca (ecserv7.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.50.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368B443D1F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:46:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bruce@engmail.uwaterloo.ca) Received: from ecserv7.uwaterloo.ca (localhost.uwaterloo.ca [127.0.0.1]) iBLFktAG047509 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:46:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bruce@engmail.uwaterloo.ca) Received: (from www@localhost) by ecserv7.uwaterloo.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id iBLFksuP047508 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:46:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bruce@engmail.uwaterloo.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: ecserv7.uwaterloo.ca: www set sender to bruce@engmail.uwaterloo.ca using -f Received: from 129.97.50.50 ( [129.97.50.50])HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:46:54 -0500 Message-ID: <1103644014.41c8456edb52a@www.nexusmail.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:46:54 -0500 From: Bruce Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 / FreeBSD-4.6.2 X-Originating-IP: 129.97.50.50 Subject: apparent change in php4 port build procedure... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:46:54 -0000 I'm upgrading to mod_php4-4.3.10 In the past, the make procedure presented me with a detailed menu of options. Now, it appears to just ask me these questions 3: - apache 1 vs 2 - debug - ipv6 and not all the other stuff like mysql, imap, and so forth. I can easily add the configure args I want to /usr/ports/lang/php4/Makefile, like this: --with-mysql=/usr/local \ --with-layout=GNU \ --with-config-file-scan-dir=${PREFIX}/etc/php \ --with-zlib-dir=/usr \ --with-regex=php \ --enable-ftp \ But I liked the old menu system, as it saved me figuring out the configure args. Was there a reason to move away from that, or is there a new mechanism I am not aware of ? Thanks, -- Bruce Campbell Engineering Computing CPH-2374B University of Waterloo (519)888-4567 ext 5889 ---------------------------------------- This mail sent through www.mywaterloo.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 15:59:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C297716A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:59:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4CAA743D49 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:59:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamera@pacbell.net) Received: from unknown (HELO gamerasmog.com) (gamera@pacbell.net@64.173.26.30 with login) by smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 15:59:40 -0000 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:59:36 -0800 From: Joshua Tinnin To: Gerard Seibert Message-ID: <20041221155936.GA2080@gamerasmog.com> References: <20041221053357.B6E5.GERARD-SEIBERT@rcn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041221053357.B6E5.GERARD-SEIBERT@rcn.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'portsdb -Uu' vs 'make fetchindex' vs 'make index' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:59:40 -0000 On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 05:34:06AM -0500, Gerard Seibert wrote: > I am not sure if I quite understand this entire ports updating scenario > correctly. I I run the command: 'cvsup ports-supfile', I then need to > run either 'portsdb -Uu' or 'make index'. I also have the option of > running 'make fetchindex' in place of either of those two proceeding > commands. Is that correct? Yes, basically. Running portsdb -U will make an index. If you run portsdb -Uu you don't have to make index as an additional step. Additionally, portsdb -u will automatically be run when it needs to be run, but you can run it manually as well. One of the fastest ways to update your tree and index is to cvsup, then cd /usr/ports && make fetchindex. You can run portsdb -u if you want, but you don't have to. It might help catch dependency problems if you do, however. > I would assume, that I should run the 'make fetchindex' command > immediately after running the 'cvsup' command. Yes, you can do that, as I mentioned above. > Does anyone have any suggestions as to a better way to accomplish this > feat? Test out different ways of updating, to find out which ones you want to use - for instance you can also use sysutils/p5-FreeBSD-Portindex - and then write scripts to accomplish it, and/or set it up as a cron job. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 16:01:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD12516A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:01:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B608343D5A for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:01:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E966388D61; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:01:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:01:44 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Bruce Campbell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <8CF42B785984DA17E49828EB@utd49554.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <1103644014.41c8456edb52a@www.nexusmail.uwaterloo.ca> References: <1103644014.41c8456edb52a@www.nexusmail.uwaterloo.ca> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: apparent change in php4 port build procedure... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:01:49 -0000 --On Tuesday, December 21, 2004 10:46:54 AM -0500 Bruce Campbell wrote: > > I'm upgrading to mod_php4-4.3.10 > [snip] > > But I liked the old menu system, as it saved me figuring out > the configure args. Was there a reason to move away from that, > or is there a new mechanism I am not aware of ? > There's a new mechanism you are not aware of. Read /usr/ports/UPDATING (the php section). You now install php (the base) and php-extensions. The menu is now with extensions. You can do a make config if you want to make changes to it. Make sure you read UPDATING. There's a gotcha in there having to do with the extensions_dir variable in the php.ini file. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 16:02:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E4016A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:02:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1BE43D2F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:02:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (c-24-8-184-241.client.comcast.net [24.8.184.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBLFxYLX092458; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:59:34 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Message-ID: <41C848E9.1040804@vilot.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:01:45 -0700 From: Tom Vilot User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041016) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Skylar Thompson References: <41C11AA3.10406@mac.com> <41C24E39.6060801@cs.earlham.edu> <41C36B39.5040605@cs.earlham.edu> In-Reply-To: <41C36B39.5040605@cs.earlham.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: LeKhoi cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why must boot in single mode. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:02:21 -0000 Skylar Thompson wrote: > Getting started on FreeBSD can be a bit rough, but I'd give the > Handbook > > a good look > over and you should be set. I think the FreeBSD Handbook is excellent. I also found this book: "FreeBSD Unleashed; Second Edition" http://www.bsdmall.com/freebun.html a godsend. So much so I had to write the authors ... :c) > ports is a blessing unto itself, Ports/packages and portupgrade are things of beauty ... :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 16:02:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D97E916A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:02:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D851843D4C for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:02:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so50059wri for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:02:57 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=L0JgO8rHrRuYTRCfqO2MdC3LiHC9OW35qcyxQx9ReMiAzQpM4rdJwMiAlsB1ECzo7lbtUofADij+kjikT5Ex1kKZXwNX4Mn0DF80DvglREIXBegvFJXCUWaBDfBH6Bw9C8YWq6b9ayKHhUMQvquQI6cVyaTDjJMU+tS3jeR0238= Received: by 10.54.56.65 with SMTP id e65mr45431wra; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:02:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:02:57 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Bruce Campbell In-Reply-To: <1103644014.41c8456edb52a@www.nexusmail.uwaterloo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1103644014.41c8456edb52a@www.nexusmail.uwaterloo.ca> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apparent change in php4 port build procedure... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:02:59 -0000 On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:46:54 -0500, Bruce Campbell wrote: > > I'm upgrading to mod_php4-4.3.10 > > In the past, the make procedure presented me with a detailed > menu of options. Now, it appears to just ask me these questions 3: > > - apache 1 vs 2 > - debug > - ipv6 > > and not all the other stuff like mysql, imap, and so forth. > > I can easily add the configure args I want to /usr/ports/lang/php4/Makefile, like > this: > > --with-mysql=/usr/local \ > --with-layout=GNU \ > --with-config-file-scan-dir=${PREFIX}/etc/php \ > --with-zlib-dir=/usr \ > --with-regex=php \ > --enable-ftp \ > > But I liked the old menu system, as it saved me figuring out > the configure args. Was there a reason to move away from that, > or is there a new mechanism I am not aware of ? from /usr/ports/UPDATING: 20040719: AFFECTS: users of PHP AUTHOR: ale at FreeBSD.org The old lang/php4 and lang/php5 ports have been split into 'base' PHP, PEAR, and shared extensions to allow more flexibility and add new features. Upgrading your current PHP installation will result in a 'base' PHP installation (no PEAR and no extensions). PEAR can be found in the new devel/php4-pear and devel/php5-pear ports, while the set of PHP extensions to install can be choosen via the meta-ports lang/php4-extensions and lang/php5-extensions, or installing singular extensions individually. The syntax may not be verbatim, as I pulled the snippet from another posting, but there lies your answer ;) -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 16:14:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADB516A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:14:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.itconnect.no (mail.itconnect.no [80.89.32.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2BAF43D48 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:14:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roger@audioweb.no) Received: from [192.168.1.204] (oenk7.dsl.itconnect.no [80.89.37.17] (may be forged)) by mail.itconnect.no (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iBLGEKVP018739; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:14:21 +0100 Message-ID: <41C84ACA.9080407@audioweb.no> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:09:46 +0100 From: "Roger. O. Svenning" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: nb, no, nn MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Reeder References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ITCMAIL-MailScanner-Information: Denne e-posten har passert itConnect AS sin virus vask (internett@itconnect.no) X-ITCMAIL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: roger@audioweb.no cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell CERC SATA 2S question -- software RAID instead? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:14:36 -0000 Jonathan Reeder wrote: >Since the SATA RAID controller in the Dell PE SC420 isn't supported yet, is >there anything I can do with atacontrol to run my two drives as a software >RAID instead of relying on the controller? > >I've never used SATA before, so any advice anyone can offer is greatly >appreciated. > AFAIK you cant use software RAID on your system drives as the system has to boot before software RAID can be loaded. Thus you would need a dedicated system drive which the system can boot from in order to load software raid on the other two disks. This is probably not what you want. Roger O. Svenning From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 16:28:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAED116A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:28:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4847743D46 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:28:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net (unverified [24.119.123.89]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 5033305 for multiple; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:44:55 -0700 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:27:37 -0600 From: Vulpes Velox To: jsha Message-ID: <20041221102737.433b11cb@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> In-Reply-To: <20041221092025.GA21943@ninja.terrabionic.com> References: <20041221092025.GA21943@ninja.terrabionic.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD just won't boot! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:28:38 -0000 On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:20:25 +0100 jsha wrote: > > Hello. > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 5.3 on a HP Compaq DC7100 but it > doesn't want to boot after the installation. I've tried a few things > here: > > 1) Installing with/without ACPI > 2) Installing with BootMgr as well as Standard MBR > 3) Entered the BIOS setup (F10) to look for solving options > > And I've also tried Google. > > No luck though. I'd appreciate any help I'd get. Thanks. How is it failing? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 16:40:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E4B16A4D0 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:40:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from palrel12.hp.com (palrel12.hp.com [156.153.255.237]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B248D43D46 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:40:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thad.butterworth@hp.com) Received: from cacexg11.americas.cpqcorp.net (cacexg11.americas.cpqcorp.net [16.92.1.67]) by palrel12.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC76409421; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:40:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net ([16.88.97.3]) by cacexg11.americas.cpqcorp.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:39:22 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:39:17 -0700 Message-ID: <2D8BB15C7B5C214F81C32D3A83B3273601D8792D@idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: web calendar recommendation Thread-Index: AcTnKL8bbKpdTE7HQPis4mKHItOJ7AAUC1/A From: "Butterworth, Thaddaeus (Manpower Contract)" To: "Noah" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2004 16:39:22.0204 (UTC) FILETIME=[9FD979C0:01C4E77B] Subject: RE: web calendar recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:40:25 -0000 I believe Ximian's Evolution would work well for that. It's in the ports and I've heard that it works very well for shared calendaring and even has a connector for working with MS Exchange. I haven't had the time to actually install and configure it myself yet, but I'm planning on doing it as soon as I can. Thad -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Noah Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 11:45 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: web calendar recommendation FreeBSD-4.9 well I am back to the drawing board here. webcalendar is not very well supported, and it does not interface that well with my Palm calendar. I cant appear to upload my calendar to it. http://www.k5n.us/webcalendar.php can somebody please send along their recommendations for a calendar program that can support multiple user calendars that can then be shared for scheduling purposes? Any ideas please? cheers, Noah _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 16:40:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F75E16A4D2 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:40:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from TheWorld.com (pcls4-e.std.com [192.74.137.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B99843D41 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:40:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kwc@shell.TheWorld.com) Received: from shell.TheWorld.com (root@shell01-e.TheWorld.com [69.38.147.31]) by TheWorld.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iBLGe0xB001501; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:40:02 -0500 Received: (from kwc@localhost) by shell.TheWorld.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA4517585; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:22:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:22:30 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <200412211622.LAA4517585@shell.TheWorld.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: USB flash drive support/usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:40:25 -0000 Hello: I have some questions about the little USB flash drives... Is there a FAQ or some documentation on them? So far I haven't found much in the Handbook or manpages. Pointers welcome. :) Do I need any driver(s) besides umass(4) & its required kernel options? Any differences between 4.x and 5.x support for them? Apparently they come setup for a FAT32 filesystem - can I format them for other filesystems (e.g. linux-ext2, BSD UFS/UFS2, MS NTFS) & expect them to work reliably? Assuming they work (well) with FreeBSD, how do I properly set them up for UFS/UFS2? Do I need to fdisk and {disk,bsd}label first? Any favorite/least-favorite brands/models or recommendations as to which one(s) to seek/avoid for use with FreeBSD? Thanks, -kc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 16:46:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37FEF16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:46:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A0843D1D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:46:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205])iBLGed61037330; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:40:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) iBLGjtsJ002245; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:45:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBLGjss2002244; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:45:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:45:53 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Kenneth W Cochran Message-ID: <20041221164553.GD618@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <200412211622.LAA4517585@shell.TheWorld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200412211622.LAA4517585@shell.TheWorld.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB flash drive support/usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:46:11 -0000 On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 11:22:30AM -0500, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: > Hello: > > I have some questions about the little USB flash drives... > > Is there a FAQ or some documentation on them? So far I haven't > found much in the Handbook or manpages. Pointers welcome. :) > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/usb-disks.html > Do I need any driver(s) besides umass(4) & its required kernel options? > > Any differences between 4.x and 5.x support for them? > > Apparently they come setup for a FAT32 filesystem - can I format > them for other filesystems (e.g. linux-ext2, BSD UFS/UFS2, MS > NTFS) & expect them to work reliably? > > Assuming they work (well) with FreeBSD, how do I properly set > them up for UFS/UFS2? Do I need to fdisk and {disk,bsd}label first? > [...] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks-adding.html Marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 16:48:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6801F16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:48:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3716343D48 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:48:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-197-67.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com ([209.6.197.67] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #7) id 1CgnBr-000526-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:48:51 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16840.21247.684225.729015@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:44:47 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta16) "celeriac" XEmacs Lucid Subject: problems (re)building mozilla-devel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:48:52 -0000 (I sent this to the maintainer, haven't heard anything, and need help ASAP.) I'm attempting to rebuild www/mozilla-devel, in part to try and solve a problem that makes it crash when I print anything. However, the compile fails with: ../../../../coreconf/nsinstall/FreeBSD6.0_DBG.OBJ/nsinstall -R -m 775 FreeBSD6.0_DBG.OBJ/mangle /usr/ports/www/mozilla-devel/work/mozilla/dist/bin gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/mozilla-devel/work/mozilla/security/nss/cmd/shlibsign/mangle' FreeBSD6.0_DBG.OBJ/shlibsign -v -i /usr/ports/www/mozilla-devel/work/mozilla/dist/lib/libsoftokn3.so Assertion failure: -1 != pt_book.minPrio, at ptthread.c:846 Abort trap (core dumped) gmake[3]: *** [/usr/ports/www/mozilla-devel/work/mozilla/dist/lib/libsoftokn3.chk] Error 134 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/mozilla-devel/work/mozilla/security/nss/cmd/shlibsign' gmake[2]: *** [libs] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/mozilla-devel/work/mozilla/security/manager' Anyone have a clue as to what went wrong? System is: huff@jerusalem>> uname -a FreeBSD jerusalem.litteratus.org 6.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT #0: Mon Dec 13 15:17:52 EST 2004 huff@jerusalem.litteratus.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JERUSALEM i386 and the ports tree is updated every midnight. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 16:59:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5977D16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:59:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A4243D60 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:59:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (webmail27-en1 [10.13.10.127]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id iBLGwuIU007134; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:58:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail27 (localhost.mac.com [127.0.0.1]) iBLGwtpG029055; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:58:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <15377720.1103648335629.JavaMail.pgiessel@mac.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:58:55 -0900 From: Peter Giessel To: "Roger. O. Svenning" in-reply-to: <41C84ACA.9080407@audioweb.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit references: <41C84ACA.9080407@audioweb.no> X-Originating-IP: 158.145.111.132/instID=134 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Jonathan Reeder Subject: Re: Dell CERC SATA 2S question -- software RAID instead? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:59:01 -0000 On Tuesday, December 21, 2004, at 07:15AM, Roger. O. Svenning wrote: >Jonathan Reeder wrote: > >>Since the SATA RAID controller in the Dell PE SC420 isn't supported yet, is >>there anything I can do with atacontrol to run my two drives as a software >>RAID instead of relying on the controller? >> >>I've never used SATA before, so any advice anyone can offer is greatly >>appreciated. >> >AFAIK you cant use software RAID on your system drives as the system has >to boot before software RAID can be loaded. >Thus you would need a dedicated system drive which the system can boot >from in order to load software raid on the other two disks. Not true. Vinum is your friend (starting on the 16th page of the PDF): http://www.vinumvm.org/cfbsd/vinum.pdf If you are using 5.3, you probably want to look into gvinum... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 17:02:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C85816A4CF for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:02:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02.tampabay.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-smtplb.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.5.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D830743D1D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:02:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scphantm@yahoo.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (24286hfc39.tampabay.rr.com [24.28.6.39]) iBLH2A4X029699 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:02:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41C85800.1080706@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:06:08 -0500 From: Steel City Phantom User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2D8BB15C7B5C214F81C32D3A83B3273601D8792D@idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <2D8BB15C7B5C214F81C32D3A83B3273601D8792D@idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: web calendar recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:02:14 -0000 the palm support is going to be the kicker. i don't know of anything other than act and outlook that palm connects too. take that out of the mix and ximian is your best bet. mozilla Sunbird has potential, but group calendaring is a ways away Butterworth, Thaddaeus (Manpower Contract) wrote: >I believe Ximian's Evolution would work well for that. It's in the ports >and I've heard that it works very well for shared calendaring and even >has a connector for working with MS Exchange. I haven't had the time to >actually install and configure it myself yet, but I'm planning on doing >it as soon as I can. > >Thad > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Noah >Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 11:45 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: web calendar recommendation > >FreeBSD-4.9 > > >well I am back to the drawing board here. webcalendar is not very well >supported, and it does not interface that well with my Palm calendar. I >cant >appear to upload my calendar to it. > >http://www.k5n.us/webcalendar.php > >can somebody please send along their recommendations for a calendar >program >that can support multiple user calendars that can then be shared for >scheduling purposes? > >Any ideas please? > >cheers, > >Noah > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 17:04:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB33F16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:04:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8171C43D2D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:04:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.2/8.13.2) with ESMTP id iBLH4ia8058834; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:04:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: Matthew Seaman Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:04:44 -0800 Message-Id: <20041221170321.M47665@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <41C831D4.1060200@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <20041221063032.M20012@enabled.com> <20041221083201.9BB8D43D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <20041221135400.M771@enabled.com> <41C831D4.1060200@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 67.161.56.189 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: phpMyAdmin 2.6.1-rc1 cant create database X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:04:49 -0000 > > > I dont think that is the answer. I forgot to add that root has all privelegdes. > > Remember that MySQL counts "root" @ "localhost" as a different > account to "root" @ "someotherhostname" -- and the question is, > which account are you actually using via phpMyAdmin? > > Cheers, > > Matthew Here is what I am seeing from the priveledges. I am seeing both a root account for the localhost and a root account for the local_hostname - which is the actually name of the machine. WHat else shoudl I check here? --- snip --- root localhost Yes ALL PRIVILEGES Yes Edit Privileges root Yes ALL PRIVILEGES Yes Edit Privileges --- snip --- cheers, Noah > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor > School Rd > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone > Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL > UK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 17:05:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA1516A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:05:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from serv03.inetworx.ch (serv03.inetworx.ch [193.17.199.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF00D43D45 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:05:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dev@eth0.ch) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by serv03.inetworx.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE86252D6E for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:05:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from serv03.inetworx.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (serv03.inetworx.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18056-02-2 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:05:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from www.inetworx.ch (serv04.inetworx.ch [193.17.199.24]) by serv03.inetworx.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE976252D63 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:05:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from 217.162.71.141 (SquirrelMail authenticated user dev.eth0); by www.inetworx.ch with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:05:45 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1706.217.162.71.141.1103648745.squirrel@217.162.71.141> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:05:45 +0100 (CET) From: "David E. Meier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at inetworx.ch Subject: Problem with chroot, uid's and quota X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:05:47 -0000 I have installed openssh-portable with the chroot option enabled. Users can login and execute the commands I supplied in their chroot'ed home directory. I included an /etc/fstab file for the quota enabled devices and hard linked the quota.user file to the base direcotry of the chroot. In addidtion I copied the entries for the root and chroot'ed user as well as the relevant groups to /etc/passwd and /etc/group in the chroot directory. So far so good. If I login as the chrooted user and type the command quota by itself I get the correct values returned: $ quota Disk quotas for user (no account) (uid 1003): Filesystem usage quota limit grace files quota limit grace / 8 512000 563200 4 0 0 However, when executing the quota command with the user name appended I get: $ quota myuser quota: myuser: unknown user Similar with ls: $ ls -al total 96 drwxr-xr-x 8 0 wheel 512 Dec 21 17:41 . drwxr-xr-x 8 0 wheel 512 Dec 21 17:41 .. dr-x--x--x 2 0 wheel 512 Dec 21 16:53 bin drwxr-xr-x 2 0 wheel 512 Dec 21 17:42 dev dr-xr-xr-x 2 0 wheel 512 Dec 21 16:54 etc drwxr-xr-x 4 1003 mygroup 512 Dec 21 16:47 home dr-x--x--x 2 0 wheel 512 Dec 21 16:47 lib dr-x--x--x 2 0 wheel 512 Dec 21 16:47 libexec -rw-r----- 3 0 operator 2097120 Dec 21 17:44 quota.user Somehow the gid's can get mapped to names but the uid's can't. Can anyone point out what I need to adjust or is required to get uid's working with names as well? Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 17:06:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AE216A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:06:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457C343D48 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:06:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.2/8.13.2) with ESMTP id iBLH6aQ7058905; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:06:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: martin hudec , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:06:36 -0800 Message-Id: <20041221170523.M77617@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <20041221143917.GC871@pleiades.aeternal.net> References: <20041221063032.M20012@enabled.com> <20041221083201.9BB8D43D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <20041221135400.M771@enabled.com> <41C831D4.1060200@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20041221143917.GC871@pleiades.aeternal.net> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 67.161.56.189 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: phpMyAdmin 2.6.1-rc1 cant create database X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:06:49 -0000 On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:39:17 +0100, martin hudec wrote > Hello, > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 02:23:16PM +0000 or thereabouts, Matthew > Seaman wrote: > > >I dont think that is the answer. I forgot to add that root has all > > >privelegdes. > > > > Remember that MySQL counts "root" @ "localhost" as a different account > > to "root" @ "someotherhostname" -- and the question is, which account > > are you actually using via phpMyAdmin? > > > > Maybe you're right. I am experiencing this behavior while using MySQL > 4.0.22. On other databases using older 4.0.20 there are no > differences between local super user and remote super user. I am > using remote phpmyadmin user with ALL PRIVILEGES set to him and I > am not able to create databases or reload mysql while accessing 4.0.22. > Also I am experiencing that MySQL is no longer doing IP resolving, > so I have to use IP address instead of hostname for > authentication purposes (but this is okay, at least I am not > depending on another service for resolving the IP). > Hi, Ive had this same behavior during older versions of mysql even at version 4.0.20 and before. These are different symptoms mentioned above that have nothing to do with my issue. cheers, Noah > Cheers, > > Martin > > -- > martin hudec > > * 421 907 303 393 > * corwin@aeternal.net > * http://www.aeternal.net > > "Nothing travels faster than the speed of light with the possible > exception of bad news, which obeys its own special laws." > > Douglas Adams, "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 17:06:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC63216A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:06:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1C743D1D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:06:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id iBLH6mqx007491; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:06:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:06:48 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Kenneth W Cochran Message-ID: <20041221170647.GB78451@dan.emsphone.com> References: <200412211622.LAA4517585@shell.TheWorld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200412211622.LAA4517585@shell.TheWorld.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB flash drive support/usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:06:58 -0000 In the last episode (Dec 21), Kenneth W Cochran said: > I have some questions about the little USB flash drives... > > Is there a FAQ or some documentation on them? So far I haven't > found much in the Handbook or manpages. Pointers welcome. :) > > Do I need any driver(s) besides umass(4) & its required kernel > options? Nope. just what's listed in the EXAMPLES section of the manpage. > Any differences between 4.x and 5.x support for them? 5.x supports more devices, and supports them better :) There are a numbers of quirks entries in umass.c for misbehaving devices. > Apparently they come setup for a FAT32 filesystem - can I format them > for other filesystems (e.g. linux-ext2, BSD UFS/UFS2, MS NTFS) & > expect them to work reliably? You can, but FAT32 is definitely the most portable. > Assuming they work (well) with FreeBSD, how do I properly set them up > for UFS/UFS2? Do I need to fdisk and {disk,bsd}label first? Just newfs on /dev/da# should be enough. You can fdisk or disklabel if you want, but if you're not going to boot off it I don't think it buys you anything. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 17:08:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC25316A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:08:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6F043D39 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:08:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.2/8.13.2) with ESMTP id iBLH8mw4058972; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:08:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: "Butterworth, Thaddaeus (Manpower Contract)" , Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:08:48 -0800 Message-Id: <20041221170824.M5291@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <2D8BB15C7B5C214F81C32D3A83B3273601D8792D@idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net> References: <2D8BB15C7B5C214F81C32D3A83B3273601D8792D@idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 67.161.56.189 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: RE: web calendar recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:08:50 -0000 On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:39:17 -0700, Butterworth, Thaddaeus (Manpower Contract) wrote > I believe Ximian's Evolution would work well for that. It's in the ports > and I've heard that it works very well for shared calendaring and > even has a connector for working with MS Exchange. I haven't had the > time to actually install and configure it myself yet, but I'm > planning on doing it as soon as I can. oh okay - well it was just an idea. also I was hoping for an opensource package to do this. thanks, Noah > > Thad > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Noah > Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 11:45 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: web calendar recommendation > > FreeBSD-4.9 > > well I am back to the drawing board here. webcalendar is not very well > supported, and it does not interface that well with my Palm > calendar. I cant appear to upload my calendar to it. > > http://www.k5n.us/webcalendar.php > > can somebody please send along their recommendations for a calendar > program > that can support multiple user calendars that can then be shared for > scheduling purposes? > > Any ideas please? > > cheers, > > Noah > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 17:21:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A01B16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:21:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98BE43D2F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:21:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so62754wri for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:21:31 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=IK/FOSY40PIjsV6phCidyyPtH4LzUzqhlRSFHf5JNgQvwZnptIlj9R7BV713cFZLHpQ4exug94QCTTUbPueUhAwVOTsal7O9OgMg2gm4DAsKeevmJk0gShJyPn0OX5JeSfIv5ibzl4nFn5l8QnnbEX4g+paKf3JRdQhAA3Tl+5o= Received: by 10.54.28.15 with SMTP id b15mr64194wrb; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:21:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.4.73 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:21:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <72cf361e04122109217e4f207@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:21:31 +0000 From: Martin Hepworth Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41C85800.1080706@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <2D8BB15C7B5C214F81C32D3A83B3273601D8792D@idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net> <41C85800.1080706@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: web calendar recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Hepworth List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:21:32 -0000 Palm integration works fine for me with Evolution... On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:06:08 -0500, Steel City Phantom wrote: > the palm support is going to be the kicker. i don't know of anything > other than act and outlook that palm connects too. > > take that out of the mix and ximian is your best bet. mozilla Sunbird > has potential, but group calendaring is a ways away > > Butterworth, Thaddaeus (Manpower Contract) wrote: > > >I believe Ximian's Evolution would work well for that. It's in the ports > >and I've heard that it works very well for shared calendaring and even > >has a connector for working with MS Exchange. I haven't had the time to > >actually install and configure it myself yet, but I'm planning on doing > >it as soon as I can. > > > >Thad > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Noah > >Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 11:45 PM > >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: web calendar recommendation > > > >FreeBSD-4.9 > > > > > >well I am back to the drawing board here. webcalendar is not very well > >supported, and it does not interface that well with my Palm calendar. I > >cant > >appear to upload my calendar to it. > > > >http://www.k5n.us/webcalendar.php > > > >can somebody please send along their recommendations for a calendar > >program > >that can support multiple user calendars that can then be shared for > >scheduling purposes? > > > >Any ideas please? > > > >cheers, > > > >Noah > > > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 17:22:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF95F16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:22:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F8743D2D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:22:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so62860wri for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:22:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=kVe5MgeLbuAbupFBrOUSZ3t/Xkmb6qZA79lgQPbayNTnfqA1J/4iBSQA3fCKJQvpUS6xzfyOxZ1EQQuj50L1V9N2yX3PsNwjfFm+9YCFrHLGaloLNMZkPaM0yBG/aJ+qQ6sv4ggYgFm8w6KTnXL88h5F8fezpJRzsljEHEkuEEQ= Received: by 10.54.44.67 with SMTP id r67mr57615wrr; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:22:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.4.73 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:22:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <72cf361e04122109226b98062d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:22:11 +0000 From: Martin Hepworth Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041221170824.M5291@enabled.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <2D8BB15C7B5C214F81C32D3A83B3273601D8792D@idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net> <20041221170824.M5291@enabled.com> Subject: Re: web calendar recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Hepworth List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:22:13 -0000 Evolution is open source... -- martin On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:08:48 -0800, Noah wrote: > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:39:17 -0700, Butterworth, Thaddaeus (Manpower Contract) > wrote > > I believe Ximian's Evolution would work well for that. It's in the ports > > and I've heard that it works very well for shared calendaring and > > even has a connector for working with MS Exchange. I haven't had the > > time to actually install and configure it myself yet, but I'm > > planning on doing it as soon as I can. > > > oh okay - well it was just an idea. also I was hoping for an opensource > package to do this. > > thanks, > > Noah > > > > > > Thad > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Noah > > Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 11:45 PM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: web calendar recommendation > > > > FreeBSD-4.9 > > > > well I am back to the drawing board here. webcalendar is not very well > > supported, and it does not interface that well with my Palm > > calendar. I cant appear to upload my calendar to it. > > > > http://www.k5n.us/webcalendar.php > > > > can somebody please send along their recommendations for a calendar > > program > > that can support multiple user calendars that can then be shared for > > scheduling purposes? > > > > Any ideas please? > > > > cheers, > > > > Noah > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 17:25:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E3D16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:25:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cqgigw.cqg.com (cqgigw.cqg.com [208.48.16.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979E443D1D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:25:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomc@cqg.com) Received: from cqgmail.cqg.com (int.cqg.com [96.0.0.2]) iBLHPJGf020960; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:25:19 -0700 Received: from d3stomc ([192.168.17.154]) by cqgmail.cqg.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iBLHPAdV001126; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:25:10 -0700 From: "Tom Connolly" To: "'Martin Hepworth'" Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:25:07 -0700 Message-ID: <014601c4e782$06054570$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <72cf361e04122109217e4f207@mail.gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.181 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=0, required 3) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: web calendar recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:25:23 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Martin Hepworth Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 10:22 AM Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: web calendar recommendation > Palm integration works fine for me with Evolution... Same here! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 17:35:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808A216A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:35:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D00343D2F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:35:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])iBLHZbsI027734; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:35:37 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) iBLHZbrM002327; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:35:37 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)iBLHZb94002326; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:35:37 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:35:37 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Kenneth W Cochran Message-ID: <20041221173537.GA2250@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <200412211622.LAA4517585@shell.TheWorld.com> <20041221170647.GB78451@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041221170647.GB78451@dan.emsphone.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB flash drive support/usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:35:41 -0000 On 2004-12-21 11:06, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Dec 21), Kenneth W Cochran said: > > I have some questions about the little USB flash drives... > >> Apparently they come setup for a FAT32 filesystem - can I format them >> for other filesystems (e.g. linux-ext2, BSD UFS/UFS2, MS NTFS) & >> expect them to work reliably? > > You can, but FAT32 is definitely the most portable. Formatting in UFS is possible indeed. I usually have my email stored on a 256 MB USB stick, formatted in UFS1 :-) >> Assuming they work (well) with FreeBSD, how do I properly set them up >> for UFS/UFS2? Do I need to fdisk and {disk,bsd}label first? > > Just newfs on /dev/da# should be enough. You can fdisk or disklabel if > you want, but if you're not going to boot off it I don't think it buys > you anything. I used fdisk, bsdlabel and newfs. The process is described here: http://keramida.serverhive.com/weblog/archives/using-a-usb-20-flash-mini-disk-on-freebsd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 17:46:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE0A16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:46:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uni03mr.unity.ncsu.edu (uni03mr.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.1.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A8F43D1F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:46:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from agerber@ncsu.edu) Received: from [152.1.10.247] (resnet-03-03.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.10.247]) id iBLHk9io022904; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:46:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41C8615B.5050000@ncsu.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:46:03 -0500 From: Alan Gerber User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041217) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kenneth W Cochran References: <200412211622.LAA4517585@shell.TheWorld.com> In-Reply-To: <200412211622.LAA4517585@shell.TheWorld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 4.7.0.111621, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.2.0, Antispam-Data: 2004.12.20.54 X-Spam-Status: No, Hits=7% X-Spam-Level: IIIIIII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB flash drive support/usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:46:29 -0000 Kenneth W Cochran wrote: >Hello: > >I have some questions about the little USB flash drives... > >Is there a FAQ or some documentation on them? So far I haven't >found much in the Handbook or manpages. Pointers welcome. :) > > I haven't done any checking, but I'm sure there is *something* in the Handbook about them. >Do I need any driver(s) besides umass(4) & its required kernel options? > > In my experience, any drive that works in Windows (2000 or XP) without needing special drivers will work in FreeBSD. I can't say that definitively, of course, but it has been my experience. >Any differences between 4.x and 5.x support for them? > > 5.x has better USB support overall, but I think there was talk about putting effort into porting this back to 4.x. I'd suggest starting with 5.x to begin with, since it represents the next generation of the FreeBSD system. >Apparently they come setup for a FAT32 filesystem - can I format >them for other filesystems (e.g. linux-ext2, BSD UFS/UFS2, MS >NTFS) & expect them to work reliably? > > I've never tried this - why change something when it is working just fine? >Assuming they work (well) with FreeBSD, how do I properly set >them up for UFS/UFS2? Do I need to fdisk and {disk,bsd}label first? > > See above response. >Any favorite/least-favorite brands/models or recommendations as >to which one(s) to seek/avoid for use with FreeBSD? > > I love my Lexar Jumpdrive. I have the 512MB version, but they're up to 1GB now, IIRC. >Thanks, > >-kc > > -- Alan Gerber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 17:57:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC32416A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:57:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D03A43D2D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:57:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.2/8.13.2) with ESMTP id iBLHvZmO060867; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:57:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: Martin Hepworth , N/A@typhoon.enabled.com Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:57:35 -0800 Message-Id: <20041221175718.M21887@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <72cf361e04122109226b98062d@mail.gmail.com> References: <2D8BB15C7B5C214F81C32D3A83B3273601D8792D@idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net> <20041221170824.M5291@enabled.com> <72cf361e04122109226b98062d@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 67.161.56.189 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: web calendar recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:57:36 -0000 On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:22:11 +0000, Martin Hepworth wrote > Evolution is open source... > cool Martin, can you possibly send me a download link for the opensource please? cheers, Noah > -- > martin > > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:08:48 -0800, Noah wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:39:17 -0700, Butterworth, Thaddaeus (Manpower Contract) > > wrote > > > I believe Ximian's Evolution would work well for that. It's in the ports > > > and I've heard that it works very well for shared calendaring and > > > even has a connector for working with MS Exchange. I haven't had the > > > time to actually install and configure it myself yet, but I'm > > > planning on doing it as soon as I can. > > > > > > oh okay - well it was just an idea. also I was hoping for an opensource > > package to do this. > > > > thanks, > > > > Noah > > > > > > > > > > Thad > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Noah > > > Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 11:45 PM > > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: web calendar recommendation > > > > > > FreeBSD-4.9 > > > > > > well I am back to the drawing board here. webcalendar is not very well > > > supported, and it does not interface that well with my Palm > > > calendar. I cant appear to upload my calendar to it. > > > > > > http://www.k5n.us/webcalendar.php > > > > > > can somebody please send along their recommendations for a calendar > > > program > > > that can support multiple user calendars that can then be shared for > > > scheduling purposes? > > > > > > Any ideas please? > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > Noah > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 17:59:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1A916A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:59:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp810.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp810.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7724B43D2D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:59:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.26.30 with login) by smtp810.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 17:58:55 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:58:52 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> <20041220142110.GA845@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> <41C6EC86.5050203@mukappabeta.de> In-Reply-To: <41C6EC86.5050203@mukappabeta.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412210958.53196.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: Matthias Buelow cc: Nikolas Britton cc: cpghost@cordula.ws Subject: Re: migrating from thunderbird to mutt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:59:09 -0000 On Monday 20 December 2004 07:15 am, Matthias Buelow wrote: > cpghost@cordula.ws wrote: > > esmtp will contact the appropriate SMTP server on your behalf > > and will use the correct credentials to connect (if required). > > What happens if sending fails (for whatever temporary reason)? Will > esmtp queue the mail, like a real MTA would? The issue is > problematic with all those "minimalistic" pseudo-MTAs because mutt > thinks it's delivering to a real sendmail, and hence doesn't handle > failure gracefully (at least not afair). Mozilla otoh, initiating > the smtp connection by itself, will let you retry, or save it to a > Drafts folder. With mutt, your mail is probably gone. I just wanted to follow up on this. What actually happens in this case is that the email is saved in the postponed folder (if it's defined). It can be recalled and re-sent fairly simply, much like the behavior in most MUAs - Mutt will even prompt you to send it if you forget. I found out after testing Mutt with esmtp and a non-working network connection, which I thought was working at the time. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 18:02:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755DF16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:02:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF8D43D5F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:02:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so636wri for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:02:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=jKd/mOiGRyJoIaholHeuqAyEccj7xSuVpk6FHjyY9r30V64yBBARD8i1GyFtBVWLCILQHzvtl+qG+KsxrgQJ+kj0SVdaxDG6z5KMtEWuzVD8nmyUzkEziaJroKEsVj8hK0PZNtJvZdyMN2hnBQhLZZG+2aAJDTuSJkwTqekTbJg= Received: by 10.54.46.78 with SMTP id t78mr1935wrt; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:02:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.4.73 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:02:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <72cf361e0412211002573c6933@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:02:08 +0000 From: Martin Hepworth To: Noah In-Reply-To: <20041221175718.M21887@enabled.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <2D8BB15C7B5C214F81C32D3A83B3273601D8792D@idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net> <20041221170824.M5291@enabled.com> <72cf361e04122109226b98062d@mail.gmail.com> <20041221175718.M21887@enabled.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: N/A@typhoon.enabled.com Subject: Re: web calendar recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Hepworth List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:02:10 -0000 Noah it's in the ports tree - /usr/ports/mail/evolution -- Martin On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:57:35 -0800, Noah wrote: > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:22:11 +0000, Martin Hepworth wrote > > Evolution is open source... > > > > cool Martin, > > can you possibly send me a download link for the opensource please? > > cheers, > > Noah > > > -- > > martin > > > > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:08:48 -0800, Noah wrote: > > > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:39:17 -0700, Butterworth, Thaddaeus (Manpower Contract) > > > wrote > > > > I believe Ximian's Evolution would work well for that. It's in the ports > > > > and I've heard that it works very well for shared calendaring and > > > > even has a connector for working with MS Exchange. I haven't had the > > > > time to actually install and configure it myself yet, but I'm > > > > planning on doing it as soon as I can. > > > > > > > > > oh okay - well it was just an idea. also I was hoping for an opensource > > > package to do this. > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > Noah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thad > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Noah > > > > Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 11:45 PM > > > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > > Subject: web calendar recommendation > > > > > > > > FreeBSD-4.9 > > > > > > > > well I am back to the drawing board here. webcalendar is not very well > > > > supported, and it does not interface that well with my Palm > > > > calendar. I cant appear to upload my calendar to it. > > > > > > > > http://www.k5n.us/webcalendar.php > > > > > > > > can somebody please send along their recommendations for a calendar > > > > program > > > > that can support multiple user calendars that can then be shared for > > > > scheduling purposes? > > > > > > > > Any ideas please? > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > > > Noah > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 18:37:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34FF16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:37:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4779843D3F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:37:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20041221183732i9100rfia8e>; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:37:33 +0000 Message-ID: <41C86D6A.4030305@nbritton.org> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:37:30 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: flu@iki.fi cc: jkossen@xs4all.nl Subject: Anyone use cplay? I have a question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:37:34 -0000 First off, this program is kick-ass, everything I was looking for, simplicity and minimalism at its best. The basic commands took me 10 minutes to master, it plays everything including mp3 streams / mp3 stream playlists, has a file manager style music browser (In windows I used explorer to manage my well organized music collection), enqueue functions (used the Winamp explorer shell extension of the same name 90% of the time), and I can use it at the console. also only needs Python for it to work. For those not in the know, cplay is "a curses front-end for various audio players" http://www.tf.hut.fi/~flu/cplay/ in ports under audio/cplay Alright... to my questions (posting them here, an Cc'ing the guy in the ports Makefile and the author, because cplay is "/insanely underground/" and I can't find any user support, docs, etc): 1. How do I get gnome's launcher to play with multiple commands? what I want it to do is change to the base directory of my music library and then launch cplay, I tried all different ways but nothing worked, I ended up just making a two line batch script and launching that, also what I would like to do is launch cplay with a negative nice (cd ~/library/Audio && nice -5 cplay) but being a normal user account you cannot do this, how do I handle that (SUDO? I've never used it, unless it's the same thing as "su"?). Segway... The man page for nice is misleading, it says to use "nice -n num# command" but we all know that won't work "nice: Badly formed number." it should say "nice -/+num# command", anyways thats real nice nice :-) 2. When I first installed and used cplay I only had mpg123 install and It refused to play some songs for no reason at all (I could play them at the command line with mpg123) so I installed most all the players that cplay can use and copy'd over the default .cplayrc file to my home dir. this fixed the problem but left me wondering if I need all those players installed... So how does cplay/.cplayrc work, does It find the first compatible player for the file type and only use it OR does it pick the first player it finds for that file type and if it doesn't work it moves on to the next compatible player? here is my .cplayrc file: PLAYERS = [ FrameOffsetPlayer("ogg123 -q -v -k %d %s", "\.ogg$"), FrameOffsetPlayer("splay -f -k %d %s", "(^http://|\.mp[123]$)", 38.28), FrameOffsetPlayer("mpg123 -q -v -k %d %s", "(^http://|\.mp[123]$)", 38.28), FrameOffsetPlayer("mpg321 -q -v -k %d %s", "(^http://|\.mp[123]$)", 38.28), TimeOffsetPlayer("madplay -v --no-tty-control --display-time=remaining -s %d %s", "\.mp[123]$"), NoOffsetPlayer("mikmod -q -p0 %s", "\.(mod|xm|fm|s3m|med|col|669|it|mtm)$"), NoOffsetPlayer("xmp -q %s", "\.(mod|xm|fm|s3m|med|col|669|it|mtm|stm)$"), NoOffsetPlayer("play %s", "\.(aiff|au|cdr|mp3|ogg|wav)$"), NoOffsetPlayer("speexdec %s", "\.spx$") ] My installed players are: splay mpg123 mpg321 mikmod 3. Is there a way to launch cplay from my web browser (firefox) when I click on a mp3 stream to listen too, I only briefly looked into this so it my be a very basic question. currently I just save the .pls files to ~/library/Audio/Netradio and then just queue them up with cplay. Dam Jochem, can I be your friend, I need the number for the 2nd girl on the right?: http://jk.yazzy.org/images/hccza62.jpg :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 18:47:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB33C16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:47:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (ei.xs4all.nl [213.84.67.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D232E43D46 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:47:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBLInvF3081588; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:49:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBLInv3g081587; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:49:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:49:57 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: "David E. Meier" Message-ID: <20041221184957.GB81359@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , "David E. Meier" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1706.217.162.71.141.1103648745.squirrel@217.162.71.141> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1706.217.162.71.141.1103648745.squirrel@217.162.71.141> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,J_CHICKENPOX_66 autolearn=failed version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on ei.bzerk.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with chroot, uid's and quota X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:47:42 -0000 On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 06:05:45PM +0100, David E. Meier typed: ... > Somehow the gid's can get mapped to names but the uid's can't. Can anyone > point out what I need to adjust or is required to get uid's working with > names as well? In FreeBSD, group names are resolved through /etc/group. Usernames however resolve through a user database that is derived from /etc/master.passwd. The actual database files are /etc/pwd.db and /etc/spwd.db. Try to experiment which of these 3 files are actually required by the quota and ls commands to resolve the usernames. Remember however that putting sensitive information like this inside the chroot is a security risk. master.passwd and spwd.db contain the (encrypted, but crackable) passwords of all users. Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 18:51:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D206D16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:51:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DD343D62 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:51:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.2/8.13.2) with ESMTP id iBLIpHNE068400 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:51:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:51:17 -0800 Message-Id: <20041221184959.M82284@enabled.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 67.161.56.189 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: distfiles first instead of fetch? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:51:18 -0000 FreeBSD-4.9 well I am finding that a particular bz2 file is not fetched from a list of servers so I downloaded it locally. but the build is not looking in /usr/ports/distfiles - how do I control this behavior? --- snip ---- # make install clean ===> Vulnerability check disabled ===> Found saved configuration for evolution-2.0.3 ===> Extracting for evolution-2.0.3 => Checksum mismatch for gnome2/evolution-2.0.3.tar.bz2. ===> Refetch for 1 more times files: gnome2/evolution-2.0.3.tar.bz2 ===> Vulnerability check disabled ===> Found saved configuration for evolution-2.0.3 => evolution-2.0.3.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/gnome2. => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/evolution/2.0/. ^Cfetch: transfer interrupted --- snip --- cheers, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 18:57:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14BFC16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:57:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (wcborstel.demon.nl [82.161.134.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 685B143D1F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:57:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jorn@wcborstel.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F1FD43A3; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:58:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.wcborstel.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 93113-06; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:57:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF87F439D; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:57:56 +0100 (CET) From: "Jorn Argelo" To: "Noah" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:57:56 +0100 Message-Id: <20041221185650.M45443@wcborstel.nl> In-Reply-To: <20041221184959.M82284@enabled.com> References: <20041221184959.M82284@enabled.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 82.161.134.53 (jorn) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.wcborstel.nl Subject: Re: distfiles first instead of fetch? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:57:40 -0000 On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:51:17 -0800, Noah wrote > FreeBSD-4.9 > > well I am finding that a particular bz2 file is not fetched from a > list of servers so I downloaded it locally. but the build is not > looking in /usr/ports/distfiles - how do I control this behavior? > > --- snip ---- > > => evolution-2.0.3.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/ gnome2. That's why =) It's expecting the file to be in /usr/ports/distfiles/gnome2. Cheers, Jorn. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 18:57:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5753616A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:57:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B7F43D48 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:57:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])iBLIvaHf006971; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:57:37 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) iBLIvaOr009652; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:57:36 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)iBLIvasC009651; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:57:36 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:57:36 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Noah Message-ID: <20041221185736.GA9627@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20041221184959.M82284@enabled.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041221184959.M82284@enabled.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: distfiles first instead of fetch? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:57:49 -0000 On 2004-12-21 10:51, Noah wrote: > FreeBSD-4.9 > > > well I am finding that a particular bz2 file is not fetched from a list of > servers so I downloaded it locally. but the build is not looking in > /usr/ports/distfiles - how do I control this behavior? It *is* looking there. The downloaded file doesn't match the checksum it should have though. See the line marked with stars: > --- snip ---- > > # make install clean > ===> Vulnerability check disabled > ===> Found saved configuration for evolution-2.0.3 > ===> Extracting for evolution-2.0.3 *** > => Checksum mismatch for gnome2/evolution-2.0.3.tar.bz2. > ===> Refetch for 1 more times files: gnome2/evolution-2.0.3.tar.bz2 > ===> Vulnerability check disabled > ===> Found saved configuration for evolution-2.0.3 > => evolution-2.0.3.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/gnome2. > => Attempting to fetch from > ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/evolution/2.0/. > ^Cfetch: transfer interrupted > > --- snip --- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 18:59:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214D616A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:59:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from net.netophilia.net (ns.netophilia.net [66.96.216.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F6243D39 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:59:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@netophilia.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.netophilia.net [127.0.0.1]) by net.netophilia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B9514EE6; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:59:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from net.netophilia.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (net.netophilia.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 89687-03; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:59:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by net.netophilia.net (Postfix, from userid 1005) id 54F6E1C2C8; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:59:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:59:28 -0500 From: Dan Kilbourne To: Noah Message-ID: <20041221185928.GB88770@netophilia.net> References: <20041221184959.M82284@enabled.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041221184959.M82284@enabled.com> Organization: netophilia.net Visit: http://netophilia.net User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at netophilia.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: distfiles first instead of fetch? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:59:42 -0000 Noah extolled: > well I am finding that a particular bz2 file is not fetched from a list of > servers so I downloaded it locally. but the build is not looking in > /usr/ports/distfiles - how do I control this behavior? Are you sure you put it in the correct directory? > > > --- snip ---- > > # make install clean > ===> Vulnerability check disabled > ===> Found saved configuration for evolution-2.0.3 > ===> Extracting for evolution-2.0.3 > => Checksum mismatch for gnome2/evolution-2.0.3.tar.bz2. > ===> Refetch for 1 more times files: gnome2/evolution-2.0.3.tar.bz2 > ===> Vulnerability check disabled > ===> Found saved configuration for evolution-2.0.3 > => evolution-2.0.3.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/gnome2. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ It needs to be in /usr/ports/distfiles/gnome2 , not /usr/ports/distfiles > => Attempting to fetch from > ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/evolution/2.0/. > ^Cfetch: transfer interrupted > > --- snip --- > > > cheers, > > Noah > -- ___ Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 19:00:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6727816A4CF for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:00:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from net.netophilia.net (ns.netophilia.net [66.96.216.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D9143D55 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:00:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@netophilia.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.netophilia.net [127.0.0.1]) by net.netophilia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED6F1C2C6; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:00:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from net.netophilia.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (net.netophilia.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 89642-05; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:00:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by net.netophilia.net (Postfix, from userid 1005) id 823CE1C20C; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:00:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:00:14 -0500 From: Dan Kilbourne To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20041221190014.GC88770@netophilia.net> References: <20041221184959.M82284@enabled.com> <20041221185736.GA9627@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041221185736.GA9627@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Organization: netophilia.net Visit: http://netophilia.net User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at netophilia.net cc: Noah cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: distfiles first instead of fetch? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:00:30 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas extolled: > On 2004-12-21 10:51, Noah wrote: > > FreeBSD-4.9 > > > > > > It *is* looking there. The downloaded file doesn't match the checksum > it should have though. See the line marked with stars: Have you manually checked the checksum? Maybe you pulled a different version? > > > --- snip ---- > > > > # make install clean > > ===> Vulnerability check disabled > > ===> Found saved configuration for evolution-2.0.3 > > ===> Extracting for evolution-2.0.3 > *** > => Checksum mismatch for gnome2/evolution-2.0.3.tar.bz2. > > ===> Refetch for 1 more times files: gnome2/evolution-2.0.3.tar.bz2 > > ===> Vulnerability check disabled > > ===> Found saved configuration for evolution-2.0.3 > > => evolution-2.0.3.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/gnome2. > > => Attempting to fetch from > > ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/evolution/2.0/. > > ^Cfetch: transfer interrupted > > > > --- snip --- -- ___ Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 19:09:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012A716A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:09:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from serv03.inetworx.ch (serv03.inetworx.ch [193.17.199.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E0A43D2F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:09:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dev@eth0.ch) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by serv03.inetworx.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA99252D66 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:09:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from serv03.inetworx.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (serv03.inetworx.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19215-02-5 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:09:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from www.inetworx.ch (serv04.inetworx.ch [193.17.199.24]) by serv03.inetworx.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD28252D63 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:09:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from 217.162.71.141 (SquirrelMail authenticated user dev.eth0); by www.inetworx.ch with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:09:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1869.217.162.71.141.1103656182.squirrel@217.162.71.141> In-Reply-To: <20041221184957.GB81359@ei.bzerk.org> References: <1706.217.162.71.141.1103648745.squirrel@217.162.71.141> <20041221184957.GB81359@ei.bzerk.org> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:09:42 +0100 (CET) From: "David E. Meier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at inetworx.ch Subject: Re: Problem with chroot, uid's and quota X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:09:44 -0000 >> Somehow the gid's can get mapped to names but the uid's can't. Can >> anyone >> point out what I need to adjust or is required to get uid's working with >> names as well? > > In FreeBSD, group names are resolved through /etc/group. Usernames > however resolve through a user database that is derived from > /etc/master.passwd. The actual database files are /etc/pwd.db and > /etc/spwd.db. Try to experiment which of these 3 files are actually > required by the quota and ls commands to resolve the usernames. Thanks you Ruben. That explains why. The only file required is /etc/pw.db. > Remember however that putting sensitive information like this inside > the chroot is a security risk. master.passwd and spwd.db contain the > (encrypted, but crackable) passwords of all users. Is there a way of creating such a file independently and containing only the chroot user's data? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 19:13:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1819716A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:13:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93FBF43D3F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:13:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20041221191321i92002b2ree>; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:13:22 +0000 Message-ID: <41C875CF.4090600@nbritton.org> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:13:19 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Noah References: <20041221064323.M73031@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <20041221064323.M73031@enabled.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: web calendar recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:13:23 -0000 Noah wrote: >FreeBSD-4.9 > > >well I am back to the drawing board here. webcalendar is not very well >supported, and it does not interface that well with my Palm calendar. I cant >appear to upload my calendar to it. > >http://www.k5n.us/webcalendar.php > >can somebody please send along their recommendations for a calendar program >that can support multiple user calendars that can then be shared for >scheduling purposes? > >Any ideas please? > yea, try Kronolith part of the Horde Application Framework. New features planned for 2: * Shared calendar support. * Create/import/mail iCalendar invitations, generate free/busy info. * Support for guest calendars. * Remote iCalendar calendar display support. * Palm DateBook (PDB) import support. * More flexible alarm notifications (e-mail, etc)." http://www.horde.org/kronolith/ http://www.horde.org/about/ http://www.horde.org/ Like you, I have tried every web based groupware project under the sun, this one sucked the least, we have been using it for all are client appointments since FreeBSD 5.2-RELEASE, and have never had a problem with it. When Kronolith 2, Horde 3, and Turba 2 are release I will be upgrading to those plus installing other Horde Apps like IMP, Wiki, Whups, and others. For the backend you can use just about anything for storage and authentication because it uses the pear abstraction layer of PHP and they write clean portable code. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 19:27:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83BFF16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:27:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C63643D49 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:27:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.2/8.13.2) with ESMTP id iBLJQwDf000932; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:26:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: Dan Kilbourne , Giorgos Keramidas Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:26:58 -0800 Message-Id: <20041221192608.M58886@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <20041221190014.GC88770@netophilia.net> References: <20041221184959.M82284@enabled.com> <20041221185736.GA9627@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20041221190014.GC88770@netophilia.net> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 67.161.56.189 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: distfiles first instead of fetch? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:27:11 -0000 On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:00:14 -0500, Dan Kilbourne wrote > Giorgos Keramidas extolled: > > On 2004-12-21 10:51, Noah wrote: > > > FreeBSD-4.9 > > > > > > > > > > It *is* looking there. The downloaded file doesn't match the checksum > > it should have though. See the line marked with stars: > > Have you manually checked the checksum? Maybe you pulled a different > version? okay I manually downloaded the tar.bz2 file and put it in /usr/ports/disfiles/gnome2 - everything is working now. thanks for being an extra pair of eyes. cheers, Noah > > > > > > --- snip ---- > > > > > > # make install clean > > > ===> Vulnerability check disabled > > > ===> Found saved configuration for evolution-2.0.3 > > > ===> Extracting for evolution-2.0.3 > > *** > => Checksum mismatch for gnome2/evolution-2.0.3.tar.bz2. > > > ===> Refetch for 1 more times files: gnome2/evolution-2.0.3.tar.bz2 > > > ===> Vulnerability check disabled > > > ===> Found saved configuration for evolution-2.0.3 > > > => evolution-2.0.3.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/gnome2. > > > => Attempting to fetch from > > > ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/evolution/2.0/. > > > ^Cfetch: transfer interrupted > > > > > > --- snip --- > > -- > ___ > Dan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 19:33:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE74E16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:33:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from serv03.inetworx.ch (serv03.inetworx.ch [193.17.199.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD7143D39 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:33:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dev@eth0.ch) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by serv03.inetworx.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B99252D66 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:33:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from serv03.inetworx.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (serv03.inetworx.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19538-01 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:33:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from www.inetworx.ch (serv04.inetworx.ch [193.17.199.24]) by serv03.inetworx.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30267252D63 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:33:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from 217.162.71.141 (SquirrelMail authenticated user dev.eth0); by www.inetworx.ch with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:33:39 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1904.217.162.71.141.1103657619.squirrel@217.162.71.141> In-Reply-To: <1869.217.162.71.141.1103656182.squirrel@217.162.71.141> References: <1706.217.162.71.141.1103648745.squirrel@217.162.71.141> <20041221184957.GB81359@ei.bzerk.org> <1869.217.162.71.141.1103656182.squirrel@217.162.71.141> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:33:39 +0100 (CET) From: "David E. Meier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at inetworx.ch Subject: Re: Problem with chroot, uid's and quota X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:33:42 -0000 >>> Somehow the gid's can get mapped to names but the uid's can't. Can >>> anyone >>> point out what I need to adjust or is required to get uid's working >>> with >>> names as well? >> >> In FreeBSD, group names are resolved through /etc/group. Usernames >> however resolve through a user database that is derived from >> /etc/master.passwd. The actual database files are /etc/pwd.db and >> /etc/spwd.db. Try to experiment which of these 3 files are actually >> required by the quota and ls commands to resolve the usernames. > > Thanks you Ruben. That explains why. The only file required is /etc/pw.db. > >> Remember however that putting sensitive information like this inside >> the chroot is a security risk. master.passwd and spwd.db contain the >> (encrypted, but crackable) passwords of all users. > > Is there a way of creating such a file independently and containing only > the chroot user's data? Nevermind, I found out: pwd_mkdb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 19:59:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C8216A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:59:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sapo.pt (relay3.ptmail.sapo.pt [212.55.154.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9EF8943D3F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:59:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamito@netual.pt) Received: (qmail 19770 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2004 19:58:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sapo.pt) (10.134.35.153) by relay3 with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 19:58:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 18903 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2004 19:58:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [10.0.0.5]) ([81.193.21.199]) (envelope-sender ) by mta3 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Dec 2004 19:58:51 -0000 Message-ID: <41C8807F.2080004@netual.pt> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:58:55 +0000 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1rio_Gamito?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: No latin characters :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:59:02 -0000 Hi, I've read the Handbook, applied all i've googled, but i can't get portuguese charactres like , , , etc. to work :( Completly knocked out. Any help would be apreciated. Warm Regards. -- Mrio Gamito Administrao de sistemas e desenvolvimento Netual - Multimdia e Telecomunicaes, Lda. Rua Joo Afonso, N1 3800-198 Aveiro - Portugal Tel. +351 234 371 431 / Fax. +351 234 371 438 E-mail: gamito@netual.pt www.netual.pt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 20:13:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D457B16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:13:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (fia148-72.dsl.hccnet.nl [62.251.72.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8986B43D2D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:13:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id iBLKCPo29955; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:12:29 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:12:24 +0000 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: <41C875CF.4090600@nbritton.org> Message-ID: References: <20041221064323.M73031@enabled.com> <41C875CF.4090600@nbritton.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: Noah cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: web calendar recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:13:01 -0000 On Dec 21, Nikolas Britton launched this into the bitstream: > Noah wrote: > >> FreeBSD-4.9 >> >> >> well I am back to the drawing board here. webcalendar is not very well >> supported, and it does not interface that well with my Palm calendar. I >> cant >> appear to upload my calendar to it. >> >> http://www.k5n.us/webcalendar.php >> >> can somebody please send along their recommendations for a calendar program >> that can support multiple user calendars that can then be shared for >> scheduling purposes? >> >> Any ideas please? >> > yea, try Kronolith part of the Horde Application Framework. > > New features planned for 2: > * Shared calendar support. > * Create/import/mail iCalendar invitations, generate free/busy info. > * Support for guest calendars. > * Remote iCalendar calendar display support. > * Palm DateBook (PDB) import support. > * More flexible alarm notifications (e-mail, etc)." > > http://www.horde.org/kronolith/ > http://www.horde.org/about/ > http://www.horde.org/ > > Like you, I have tried every web based groupware project under the sun, this > one sucked the least, we have been using it for all are client appointments > since FreeBSD 5.2-RELEASE, and have never had a problem with it. When > Kronolith 2, Horde 3, and Turba 2 are release I will be upgrading to those > plus installing other Horde Apps like IMP, Wiki, Whups, and others. > > For the backend you can use just about anything for storage and > authentication because it uses the pear abstraction layer of PHP and they > write clean portable code. As one other possible alternative, you could take a look at opengroupware (http://www.opengroupware.org/en/about/index.html) which has a group calendar. Now this could be overkill, but it's also a helluva lot of fun too. Do please look at the calendar module itself and the screenshots. Calendar: http://www.opengroupware.org/en/applications/calendar/index.html Screenshots: http://www.opengroupware.org/screens/index.html It does also play nicely with Palm. http://www.opengroupware.org/en/applications/palm/index.html I hope this is of some use to you. Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 20:34:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F5416A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:34:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kende.com (ns1.kende.com [66.17.131.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9761C43D46 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:34:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andras@kende.com) Received: (qmail 31944 invoked by uid 0); 21 Dec 2004 20:34:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO a) (24.1.129.219) by ns1.kende.com with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 20:34:27 -0000 From: "Andras Kende" To: "'Jorn Argelo'" , Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:34:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20041221111315.M60043@wcborstel.nl> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcTnTtIBIU+ITNR4QOGP10Eha4senQATZKlw Message-Id: <20041221203420.9761C43D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: RE: [OT] rrdtool examples X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:34:21 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jorn Argelo Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 5:18 AM To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: [OT] rrdtool examples Hi all, I've been playing around with rrdtool for quite a while, but I still don't really get it. I've been trying to find some example scripts for rrdtool, but I really can't find much of them. I have found Erik de Mare's perl scripts already. However, the author does not reply to his mail, and only a few of his scripts work. Unfortunately I don't have any perl knowledge, so I cannot fix them myself. So my question is, do you guys know where I can find some other RRDtool example scripts? Preferably something involving with CPU load, apache stats and MySQL stats. All examples are welcome though :) Thanks alot, Jorn. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hello Jorn, You may want to look into Cacti /usr/ports/net/cacti www.cacti.net , which is a frontend to rrdtool... It has all what you need: http://www.kende.com/cacti/graph_view.php?action=tree&tree_id=1 Best regards, Andras Kende http://www.kende.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 20:36:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224F016A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:36:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C87943D31 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:36:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C06FD008; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:36:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C8895D.4060606@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:36:45 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1rio_Gamito?= References: <41C8807F.2080004@netual.pt> In-Reply-To: <41C8807F.2080004@netual.pt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No latin characters :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:36:50 -0000 Mrio Gamito wrote: > I've read the Handbook, applied all i've googled, but i can't get > portuguese charactres like , , , etc. to work :( > > Completly knocked out. But what have you done? In my /etc/login.conf I have: da_DK:Danish users:\ :charset=iso-8859-1:\ :lang=da_DK.ISO8859-1:\ :tc=default: Then I set my login class in the master.passwd to da_DK. Having diffe- rent login classes this way allows you to support multiple languages for users. Otherwise, you can set these option in the default: section without the need to change your login class. You need to run cap_mkdb on login.conf after that (I think). In /etc/ttys I have set all consoles to cons25l, but this only affects when you login directly. Finally in /etc/rc.conf keymap="danish.iso" # keymap in /usr/share/syscons/keymaps/*(or NO). font8x8="iso-8x8" font8x14="iso-8x14" font8x16="iso-8x16" For you, whatever above looks danish, change to portugeese. I recommend you sticking to things that looks like iso-standards for interopera- bility. I think this is about it. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 20:40:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B4C16A4CF for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:40:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C986D43D2D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:40:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from [192.168.1.77] (c-24-8-184-241.client.comcast.net [24.8.184.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBLKbW6X004797 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:37:32 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Message-ID: <41C88709.4050900@vilot.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:26:49 -0700 From: Tom Vilot Organization: 3Dimentia, Incorporated User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200412211622.LAA4517585@shell.TheWorld.com> <20041221164553.GD618@nosferatu.blackend.org> In-Reply-To: <20041221164553.GD618@nosferatu.blackend.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: USB flash drive support/usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:40:11 -0000 Marc Fonvieille wrote: >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/usb-disks.html > > "Since the burner is seen as a SCSI drive, the driver atapicam(4) should not be used in the kernel configuration." Hmm. What if you need atapicam for other things, such as ATAPI DVDRW drives? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 20:40:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F004C16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:40:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A26E43D49 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:40:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C808FD03C; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:40:48 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C88A50.4080305@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:40:48 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1rio_Gamito?= References: <41C8807F.2080004@netual.pt> <41C8895D.4060606@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <41C8895D.4060606@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No latin characters :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:40:50 -0000 Erik Norgaard wrote: > Mrio Gamito wrote: > >> I've read the Handbook, applied all i've googled, but i can't get >> portuguese charactres like , , , etc. to work :( PS: X11 has it's own life, so you may experience that thinks works on the console but not in X or the other way around. For X take a look in XF86Config. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 20:42:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F65716A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:42:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4C043D58 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:42:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from [192.168.1.77] (c-24-8-184-241.client.comcast.net [24.8.184.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBLKdTF0004855; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:39:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Message-ID: <41C8877E.5080806@vilot.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:28:46 -0700 From: Tom Vilot Organization: 3Dimentia, Incorporated User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <200412211622.LAA4517585@shell.TheWorld.com> <20041221170647.GB78451@dan.emsphone.com> <20041221173537.GA2250@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> In-Reply-To: <20041221173537.GA2250@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB flash drive support/usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:42:11 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > >I used fdisk, bsdlabel and newfs. The process is described here: >http://keramida.serverhive.com/weblog/archives/using-a-usb-20-flash-mini-disk-on-freebsd > Can you re-post that url? I get a 404 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 20:43:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A4116A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:43:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E92343D53 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:43:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from [192.168.1.77] (c-24-8-184-241.client.comcast.net [24.8.184.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBLKfBnr004968; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:41:12 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Message-ID: <41C887E4.6030505@vilot.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:30:28 -0700 From: Tom Vilot Organization: 3Dimentia, Incorporated User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200412211622.LAA4517585@shell.TheWorld.com> <41C8615B.5050000@ncsu.edu> In-Reply-To: <41C8615B.5050000@ncsu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Alan Gerber Subject: Re: USB flash drive support/usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:43:55 -0000 Alan Gerber wrote: > I love my Lexar Jumpdrive. I have the 512MB version, but they're up > to 1GB now, IIRC. 2 gig, actually :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 20:52:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A05816A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:52:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sapo.pt (relay3.ptmail.sapo.pt [212.55.154.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D74743D1D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:52:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamito@netual.pt) Received: (qmail 27368 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2004 20:52:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sapo.pt) (10.134.35.154) by relay3 with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 20:52:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 6159 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2004 20:52:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [10.0.0.5]) ([81.193.21.199]) (envelope-sender ) by mta4 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Dec 2004 20:52:42 -0000 Message-ID: <41C88D15.4090603@netual.pt> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:52:37 +0000 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1rio_Gamito?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Norgaard References: <41C8807F.2080004@netual.pt> <41C8895D.4060606@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <41C8895D.4060606@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No latin characters :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:52:45 -0000 Hi Eric, > Then I set my login class in the master.passwd to da_DK. Having diffe- > rent login classes this way allows you to support multiple languages for > users. Otherwise, you can set these option in the default: section > without the need to change your login class. You need to run cap_mkdb on > login.conf after that (I think). How do you do this (set the login class) ??? I don't have X. Thank you for your answer. Warm Regards. -- Mrio Gamito Administrao de sistemas e desenvolvimento Netual - Multimdia e Telecomunicaes, Lda. Rua Joo Afonso, N1 3800-198 Aveiro - Portugal Tel. +351 234 371 431 / Fax. +351 234 371 438 E-mail: gamito@netual.pt www.netual.pt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 20:59:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CEA316A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:59:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rogers.com (CPE00095bf5ff21-CM000f9f578d7a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [70.24.145.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0175443D55 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:59:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbell72@gardnerbell.ca) Received: from gardnerbell.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rogers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBLKuQoj031305 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:56:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gbell72@gardnerbell.ca) Received: (from gbell72@localhost) by gardnerbell.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBLKuLR0031304 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:56:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gbell72) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:56:21 -0500 From: Gardner Bell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041221205621.GA31153@gardnerbell.ca> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Procmail Lockfile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:59:08 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to setup procmail to deliver my mail but I continuously receive the following errors in my log file. procmail: Locking ~/Mail/Lists/FreeBSD-Questions.lock procmail: Error while writing to "~/Mail/Lists/_YmHxxx.gardnerbell.ca" I do receive my mail but it always ends up in the default location that I have specified. In my .procmailrc file I have the following environment variables: MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail DEFAULT=$HOME/Mail/received PMDIR=$HOME/.procmailrc LISTFOLDER=$HOME/Mail/Lists SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail This is the recipe that fails to acquire a lock :0: * ^(From|To).*freebsd.org ~/Mail/Lists/FreeBSD-Questions The permissions on my Mail and Lists directory are set to drwx------ Any help to resolve this is appreciated. TIA Gardner Bell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 21:06:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D1216A4D0 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:06:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6564E43D46 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:06:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205])iBLL0iL2041217; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:00:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) iBLL61WO002931; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:06:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBLL60MD002930; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:06:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:06:00 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Tom Vilot Message-ID: <20041221210559.GA2755@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <200412211622.LAA4517585@shell.TheWorld.com> <20041221164553.GD618@nosferatu.blackend.org> <41C88709.4050900@vilot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C88709.4050900@vilot.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB flash drive support/usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:06:15 -0000 On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 01:26:49PM -0700, Tom Vilot wrote: > Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/usb-disks.html > > > > > > "Since the burner is seen as a SCSI drive, the driver atapicam(4) > should not > be used in the kernel configuration." > > Hmm. What if you need atapicam for other things, such as ATAPI DVDRW drives? It may not work, I had some issues having atapicam enabled with a USB DVD writer. Marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 21:07:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3AB116A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:07:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.darkness-is.com (adsl247-142.incentre.net [207.216.247.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51FF343D54 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:07:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cculver@darkness-is.com) Received: (qmail 78001 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2004 21:07:58 -0000 Received: from s0106004005da67a3.rd.shawcable.net (HELO darknessws1) (70.65.57.186) by adsl247-142.incentre.net with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 21:07:58 -0000 From: "Clay Culver" To: Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:08:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcTnoS2JF3KtlGp9QKec+UqthkKzDw== x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-Id: <20041221210750.51FF343D54@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Plesk & FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:07:51 -0000 Hi, Anyone have experience running Plesk 7.1.x with FreeBSD? Since it looks like they are not supporting this line anymore I wish to upgrade PHP and am trying to figure out how they have PHP configured. So I would like to know if anyone has configured PHP (4.3.10 is what I wish to install) under Plesk 7.1.x and FreeBSD 4.9 (although I would guess it's the same configuration for 5.x). Or is there a way for me to get FreeBSD to tell me how 4.3.9 was configured? Clay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 21:08:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091B416A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:08:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82A643D45 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:08:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.2/8.13.2) with ESMTP id iBLL8Njr066545 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:08:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:08:23 -0800 Message-Id: <20041221210823.M8498@enabled.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 67.161.56.189 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: phpMyAdmin 2.6.1-rc1 cant create database X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:08:25 -0000 phpMyAdmin 2.6.1-rc1 freeBSD-4.9 phpMyAdmin claims that there are no priviledges to create a database even as root. I am root at localhost on this machine and root has all priveledges. how do I fix this? cheers, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 21:22:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140FA16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:22:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6793F43D62 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:22:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3200AFD008; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:22:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C893F6.6090503@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:21:58 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1rio_Gamito?= References: <41C8807F.2080004@netual.pt> <41C8895D.4060606@locolomo.org> <41C88D15.4090603@netual.pt> In-Reply-To: <41C88D15.4090603@netual.pt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No latin characters :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:22:02 -0000 Mrio Gamito wrote: > How do you do this (set the login class) ??? Edit master.passwd, the fields are as follows (see passwd(5)): name User's login name. password User's encrypted password. uid User's id. gid User's login group id. class User's login class. change Password change time. expire Account expiration time. gecos General information about the user. home_dir User's home directory. shell User's login shell. - ie. set the 5th field to pt_PT (if you follow my scheme of using iso language codes as class names). When you have updated the master password file you need to run pwd_mkdb(8), the changes will take effect when you login next time. Note, if you are logging in remotely, then keyboard settings are set by the client host. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 21:26:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386D116A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:26:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D8F43D45 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:26:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a081.otenet.gr [212.205.215.81]) iBLLQOo5027384; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:26:25 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBLLQGEE001197; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:26:16 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBLLQGBr001196; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:26:16 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:26:16 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Tom Vilot Message-ID: <20041221212616.GA1173@gothmog.gr> References: <200412211622.LAA4517585@shell.TheWorld.com> <20041221170647.GB78451@dan.emsphone.com> <20041221173537.GA2250@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <41C8877E.5080806@vilot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C8877E.5080806@vilot.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB flash drive support/usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:26:31 -0000 On 2004-12-21 13:28, Tom Vilot wrote: >Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> I used fdisk, bsdlabel and newfs. The process is described here: >> http://keramida.serverhive.com/weblog/archives/using-a-usb-20-flash-mini-disk-on-freebsd > > Can you re-post that url? I get a 404 Please try again. You caught me in the middle of an update of wordpress to version 1.2.2, which has left a great part of the blog in a state of flux. The URL I posted earlier should work fine now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 21:29:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1315816A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:29:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sapo.pt (relay2.ptmail.sapo.pt [212.55.154.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CAB743D45 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:29:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamito@netual.pt) Received: (qmail 28854 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2004 21:29:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sapo.pt) (10.134.35.157) by relay2 with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 21:29:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 15318 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2004 21:29:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [10.0.0.5]) ([81.193.21.199]) (envelope-sender ) by mta7 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Dec 2004 21:29:22 -0000 Message-ID: <41C895B2.8030108@netual.pt> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:29:22 +0000 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1rio_Gamito?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Norgaard References: <41C8807F.2080004@netual.pt> <41C8895D.4060606@locolomo.org> <41C88D15.4090603@netual.pt> <41C893F6.6090503@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <41C893F6.6090503@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No latin characters :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:29:30 -0000 Hi Erik, Thank you for your patience. I did what you told me, but i get: "login_getclass: unknown class 'pt_PT'" what can be wrong ? Thank you again. Warm Regards, Mrio Gamito Erik Norgaard wrote: > Mrio Gamito wrote: > >> How do you do this (set the login class) ??? > > > Edit master.passwd, the fields are as follows (see passwd(5)): > > name User's login name. > password User's encrypted password. > uid User's id. > gid User's login group id. > class User's login class. > change Password change time. > expire Account expiration time. > gecos General information about the user. > home_dir User's home directory. > shell User's login shell. > > - ie. set the 5th field to pt_PT (if you follow my scheme of using iso > language codes as class names). When you have updated the master > password file you need to run pwd_mkdb(8), the changes will take effect > when you login next time. > > Note, if you are logging in remotely, then keyboard settings are set by > the client host. > > Cheers, Erik -- Mrio Gamito Administrao de sistemas e desenvolvimento Netual - Multimdia e Telecomunicaes, Lda. Rua Joo Afonso, N1 3800-198 Aveiro - Portugal Tel. +351 234 371 431 / Fax. +351 234 371 438 E-mail: gamito@netual.pt www.netual.pt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 21:29:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1466816A4FE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:29:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB4E43D45 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:29:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oliverfuchs@onlinehome.de) Received: from [212.227.126.179] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1CgrZV-0007xb-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:29:33 +0100 Received: from [217.246.201.69] (helo=oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de) (TLSv1:EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1CgrZT-0003KY-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:29:32 +0100 Received: from oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de (oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de [127.0.0.1])iBLLTT0P001977 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:29:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliverfuchs1@oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de) Received: (from oliverfuchs1@localhost) by oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBLLRCts001955 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:27:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliverfuchs1) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:27:12 +0100 From: Oliver Fuchs To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041221212712.GA1929@oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041221205621.GA31153@gardnerbell.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041221205621.GA31153@gardnerbell.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:c2b2791553508cc938db2bcf18721a3c Subject: Re: Procmail Lockfile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:29:35 -0000 On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Gardner Bell wrote: > Hi, > I'm trying to setup procmail to deliver my mail but I continuously receive the following errors in my log file. > procmail: Locking ~/Mail/Lists/FreeBSD-Questions.lock > procmail: Error while writing to "~/Mail/Lists/_YmHxxx.gardnerbell.ca" > I do receive my mail but it always ends up in the default location that I have specified. > > In my .procmailrc file I have the following environment variables: > MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail > DEFAULT=$HOME/Mail/received > PMDIR=$HOME/.procmailrc > LISTFOLDER=$HOME/Mail/Lists > SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail > > This is the recipe that fails to acquire a lock > :0: > * ^(From|To).*freebsd.org > ~/Mail/Lists/FreeBSD-Questions You want the receipe to store emails in /home/you/Mail/Lists/FreeBSD-Questions? So the receipe has to be: :0: * ^TO.*questions@freebsd\.org Lists/FreeBSD-Questions Oliver -- ... don't touch the bang bang fruit From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 21:50:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C6C16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:50:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DFD943D3F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:50:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aran80@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so41757wra for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:50:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=VaDI0aZaIATsxeZU94kS1n/T0vyd8RfyD6VPg5nhHQeUp/o0TVlSuBtiT/e3tsKWdH3w5kGX3Rquso99HqQagcXt1XehMltSpRFzGdV6D2inSYPld1ayuArMRIgOqFztTqCmFpJOSr/cWHVNdv94kT45v5/LO82+5N8TRd5Lpz4= Received: by 10.54.57.11 with SMTP id f11mr15325wra; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:43:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.49.12 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:43:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:43:41 -0500 From: Alvaro Rosales To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <003b01c4e489$6497d0e0$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> <41C4F0CC.30700@nbritton.org> <200412200813.06057.krinklyfig@spymac.com> Subject: How to read Serial Port data X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alvaro Rosales List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:50:05 -0000 Hi guys, I am trying to write a program to control my Alcatel telephonic central, this device has a serial interfase that can be connected to a computer serial port, I want to read all the data that the alcatel device is sendind to my serial port Can you tell me how can I redirect all the data that comes trough my serial port to a file in FreeBSD?. thanks in advance From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 21:51:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68BD16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:51:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57AA043D41 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:51:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2743EFD03C; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:51:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C89AD7.6040206@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:51:19 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1rio_Gamito?= References: <41C8807F.2080004@netual.pt> <41C8895D.4060606@locolomo.org> <41C88D15.4090603@netual.pt> <41C893F6.6090503@locolomo.org> <41C895B2.8030108@netual.pt> In-Reply-To: <41C895B2.8030108@netual.pt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No latin characters :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:51:22 -0000 Mrio Gamito wrote: > Thank you for your patience. > > I did what you told me, but i get: > > "login_getclass: unknown class 'pt_PT'" Did you create a login class 'pt_PT' in login.conf? pt_PT:Portugeese users:\ :charset=iso-8859-1:\ :lang=pt_PT.ISO8859-1:\ :tc=default: and did you run # cap_mkdb login.conf after that? The main reason I like to create a specific class is to keep default as is, but if you're the only one on your system, you could set 'lang' and 'charset' in the default section and leave the class-field in the password file empty. The important thing is to set the charset variable. True, it is not completly obvious how to get it right, and there is more than one way to do it which can be confusing. The individual user can override the varables set in login.conf(5) by editing .login_conf. If you feel you need to play and test, it might be wise to try and set some environment viriables: MM_CHARSET and LANG are set by the above mentioned. Cheers, Erik PS: While you are at it, you might want to change password format to blowfish (blf) instead of md5, this is also done in login.conf. But that's another story :-) -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 22:08:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACCEF16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:08:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp800.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp800.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5488043D53 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:08:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.26.30 with login) by smtp800.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 22:08:53 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:08:52 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20041221205621.GA31153@gardnerbell.ca> <20041221212712.GA1929@oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de> In-Reply-To: <20041221212712.GA1929@oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412211408.52989.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: Oliver Fuchs Subject: Re: Procmail Lockfile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:08:53 -0000 On Tuesday 21 December 2004 01:27 pm, Oliver Fuchs wrote: > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Gardner Bell wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm trying to setup procmail to deliver my mail but I continuously > > receive the following errors in my log file. procmail: Locking > > ~/Mail/Lists/FreeBSD-Questions.lock > > procmail: Error while writing to > > "~/Mail/Lists/_YmHxxx.gardnerbell.ca" I do receive my mail but it > > always ends up in the default location that I have specified. > > > > In my .procmailrc file I have the following environment variables: > > MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail > > DEFAULT=$HOME/Mail/received > > PMDIR=$HOME/.procmailrc > > LISTFOLDER=$HOME/Mail/Lists > > SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail > > > > This is the recipe that fails to acquire a lock > > > > :0: > > > > * ^(From|To).*freebsd.org > > ~/Mail/Lists/FreeBSD-Questions > > You want the receipe to store emails in > /home/you/Mail/Lists/FreeBSD-Questions? > > So the receipe has to be: > :0: > > * ^TO.*questions@freebsd\.org > Lists/FreeBSD-Questions I use: * ^List-Id:.*freebsd-questions.freebsd.org so that mail from other fbsd lists aren't mixed up in the wrong folders, and so I can separate CC responses. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 22:13:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E2C16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:13:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sapo.pt (relay1.ptmail.sapo.pt [212.55.154.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 25E2843D41 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:13:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamito@netual.pt) Received: (qmail 20354 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2004 22:13:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sapo.pt) (10.134.35.151) by relay1 with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 22:13:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 9289 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2004 22:13:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [10.0.0.5]) ([81.193.21.199]) (envelope-sender ) by mta1 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Dec 2004 22:13:23 -0000 Message-ID: <41C89FFF.7050606@netual.pt> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:13:19 +0000 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1rio_Gamito?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Norgaard References: <41C8807F.2080004@netual.pt> <41C8895D.4060606@locolomo.org> <41C88D15.4090603@netual.pt> <41C893F6.6090503@locolomo.org> <41C895B2.8030108@netual.pt> <41C89AD7.6040206@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <41C89AD7.6040206@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No latin characters :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:13:27 -0000 Hi again, I did everything just as you told me. When i type a latin letter like , etc., i get a greek letter :( Never mind. Thank you so much for your time and patince. Warm Regards, Mrio Gamito Erik Norgaard wrote: > Mrio Gamito wrote: > >> Thank you for your patience. >> >> I did what you told me, but i get: >> >> "login_getclass: unknown class 'pt_PT'" > > > Did you create a login class 'pt_PT' in login.conf? > > pt_PT:Portugeese users:\ > :charset=iso-8859-1:\ > :lang=pt_PT.ISO8859-1:\ > :tc=default: > > and did you run > > # cap_mkdb login.conf > > after that? > > The main reason I like to create a specific class is to keep default as > is, but if you're the only one on your system, you could set 'lang' and > 'charset' in the default section and leave the class-field in the > password file empty. > > The important thing is to set the charset variable. > > True, it is not completly obvious how to get it right, and there is more > than one way to do it which can be confusing. The individual user can > override the varables set in login.conf(5) by editing .login_conf. > > If you feel you need to play and test, it might be wise to try and set > some environment viriables: MM_CHARSET and LANG are set by the above > mentioned. > > Cheers, Erik > > PS: While you are at it, you might want to change password format to > blowfish (blf) instead of md5, this is also done in login.conf. But > that's another story :-) -- Mrio Gamito Administrao de sistemas e desenvolvimento Netual - Multimdia e Telecomunicaes, Lda. Rua Joo Afonso, N1 3800-198 Aveiro - Portugal Tel. +351 234 371 431 / Fax. +351 234 371 438 E-mail: gamito@netual.pt www.netual.pt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 22:24:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B9316A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:24:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gawab.com (www.gawab.com [204.97.230.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E9A9F43D49 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:24:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alfredoj69@nerdshack.com) Received: (qmail 20181 invoked by uid 1004); 21 Dec 2004 22:22:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.100?) (alfredoj69@70.24.135.21) by gawab.com with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 22:22:32 -0000 Message-ID: <41C8A282.8010203@nerdshack.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:24:02 -0500 From: alfredo perez User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Desperate for Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:24:09 -0000 Heloo list I have been trying to set up my FreeBSD 5.3 to get my emails with no results. I have installed and set up Mutt, Ssmtp and Fetchmail. None of them are working properly. I have no idea where to start first. I have already read the man pages and followed several how-tos I found on the internet but no results. I was wondering if any of you know of a web site with steps that I can follow to sep up my Mutt, fetchmail and ssmtp. I dont want to give up on this!!! THANKS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 22:37:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECA316A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:37:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hong.homeunix.net (65-100-8-126.eugn.qwest.net [65.100.8.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25DB443D48 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:37:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ljfong@hong.homeunix.net) Received: by hong.homeunix.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8C004858C; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:37:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:37:06 -0800 From: Lin Jianfong To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041221223706.GA66072@hong> Mail-Followup-To: Lin Jianfong , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041221205621.GA31153@gardnerbell.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041221205621.GA31153@gardnerbell.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Procmail Lockfile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:37:07 -0000 On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 03:56:21PM -0500, Gardner Bell wrote: > Hi, > I'm trying to setup procmail to deliver my mail but I continuously receive the following errors in my log file. > procmail: Locking ~/Mail/Lists/FreeBSD-Questions.lock > procmail: Error while writing to "~/Mail/Lists/_YmHxxx.gardnerbell.ca" > I do receive my mail but it always ends up in the default location that I have specified. > > In my .procmailrc file I have the following environment variables: > MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail > DEFAULT=$HOME/Mail/received > PMDIR=$HOME/.procmailrc > LISTFOLDER=$HOME/Mail/Lists > SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail > > This is the recipe that fails to acquire a lock > :0: > * ^(From|To).*freebsd.org > ~/Mail/Lists/FreeBSD-Questions > > The permissions on my Mail and Lists directory are set to drwx------ > Any help to resolve this is appreciated. > > TIA > > Gardner Bell > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" This would be a "me too" reply. I have similar setup as the one you have and I notice the failure of procmail acquiring lock whenever there are too many messages (more than 5k) in my "freebsd-questions" mail folder (mbox format). I'm also subscribed to freebsd-current, freebsd-stable and a host of other lists, but it only happens to me so far on freebsd-questions (highest volume list). The only work around is to keep the number of messages hovering below 5k or so. I suspect this is an obscure bug with procmail handling high volume mboxes. Maybe using mail folder instead of mbox will help, but I have not tried this. -- Hong From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 22:41:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA7316A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:41:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from apollo.focusinfo.com (apollo.focusinfo.com [216.103.204.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52BBA43D46 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:41:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pmeigs@focusinfo.com) Received: by apollo.focusinfo.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:41:22 -0800 Message-ID: From: Peter Meigs To: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org'" Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:45:03 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: FreeBSD 4.5 and past images X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:41:24 -0000 Hi; Where can I download past ISO images or previous releases? I'm looking for FreeBSD 4.5 or 4.4 and lower. Thank You; Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 22:44:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51CB016A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:44:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A79C43D48 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:44:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6136651288; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:44:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:44:30 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Peter Meigs Message-ID: <20041221224430.GA12867@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="T4sUOijqQbZv57TR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.5 and past images X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:44:31 -0000 --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 02:45:03PM -0800, Peter Meigs wrote: > Hi; >=20 > =20 >=20 > Where can I download past ISO images or previous releases? I'm looking for > FreeBSD 4.5 or 4.4 and lower. ISO images may not be available (I don't remember when the project started publishing them, and mirror sites may have removed them for space reasons), but see http://mirrorlist.freebsd.org. Kris --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFByKdOWry0BWjoQKURAhMQAKDtyRPA8x3I8yr0kaLD9Gkj58lefgCeJ3uA ldumrKRNJ+F1nHdYlT68AE8= =iIC6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 22:44:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7435116A50D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:44:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F71343D31 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:44:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A5158566E; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:14:35 +1030 (CST) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:14:34 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: alfredo perez Message-ID: <20041221224434.GO53357@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <41C8A282.8010203@nerdshack.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="i0LFOk513GRb+T2w" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C8A282.8010203@nerdshack.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desperate for Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:44:38 -0000 --i0LFOk513GRb+T2w Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday, 21 December 2004 at 17:24:02 -0500, alfredo perez wrote: > Heloo list > > I have been trying to set up my FreeBSD 5.3 to get my emails with no > results. I have installed and set up Mutt, Ssmtp and Fetchmail. None of > them are working properly. I have no idea where to start first. I have > already read the man pages and followed several how-tos I found on the > internet but no results. I was wondering if any of you know of a web > site with steps that I can follow to sep up my Mutt, fetchmail and > ssmtp. I dont want to give up on this!!! I'd suggest you read http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --i0LFOk513GRb+T2w Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFByKdSIubykFB6QiMRAqytAKCItzoZ+RvSleWp1uhx8u+Zi7IP0QCgsEjH NjxTJvkmNac7tFb89CIUF3w= =XAZF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --i0LFOk513GRb+T2w-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 22:55:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79AAF16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:55:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53906.mail.yahoo.com (web53906.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C46143D1D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:55:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from snailboy1@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 29121 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Dec 2004 22:55:24 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? 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The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 22:59:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F90C16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:59:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rogers.com (CPE00095bf5ff21-CM000f9f578d7a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [70.24.145.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A6943D46 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:59:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbell72@gardnerbell.ca) Received: from gardnerbell.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rogers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBLMubw1037457; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:56:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gbell72@gardnerbell.ca) Received: (from gbell72@localhost) by gardnerbell.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBLMuW57037456; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:56:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gbell72) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:56:32 -0500 From: Gardner Bell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041221225632.GA37422@gardnerbell.ca> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Oliver Fuchs References: <20041221205621.GA31153@gardnerbell.ca> <20041221212712.GA1929@oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de> <200412211408.52989.krinklyfig@spymac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200412211408.52989.krinklyfig@spymac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: Oliver Fuchs Subject: Re: Procmail Lockfile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:59:19 -0000 On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 02:08:52PM -0800 Joshua Tinnin wrote: > On Tuesday 21 December 2004 01:27 pm, Oliver Fuchs > wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Gardner Bell wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I'm trying to setup procmail to deliver my mail but I continuously > > > receive the following errors in my log file. procmail: Locking > > > ~/Mail/Lists/FreeBSD-Questions.lock > > > procmail: Error while writing to > > > "~/Mail/Lists/_YmHxxx.gardnerbell.ca" I do receive my mail but it > > > always ends up in the default location that I have specified. > > > > > > In my .procmailrc file I have the following environment variables: > > > MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail > > > DEFAULT=$HOME/Mail/received > > > PMDIR=$HOME/.procmailrc > > > LISTFOLDER=$HOME/Mail/Lists > > > SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail > > > > > > This is the recipe that fails to acquire a lock > > > > > > :0: > > > > > > * ^(From|To).*freebsd.org > > > ~/Mail/Lists/FreeBSD-Questions > > > > You want the receipe to store emails in > > /home/you/Mail/Lists/FreeBSD-Questions? > > > > So the receipe has to be: > > :0: > > > > * ^TO.*questions@freebsd\.org > > Lists/FreeBSD-Questions > > I use: > > * ^List-Id:.*freebsd-questions.freebsd.org > > so that mail from other fbsd lists aren't mixed up in the wrong folders, > and so I can separate CC responses. > > - jt Both recipies have worked for me, thanks for the help Gardner > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 23:03:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D408816A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:03:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53910.mail.yahoo.com (web53910.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5745D43D48 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:03:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from snailboy1@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 49340 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Dec 2004 23:03:37 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=COVm4UG5vl6nHO3BiyJ0N4Zvptqz2OCWpGfjFUooWV6kAV3T9/ITfVjy5NGp8zoKzcUDUAwMSUPGRi58tDsxg3cl/03ab7jRmcWERIH/OShnWAKNABAPD4msZqjvSn2XEZ/fz1ExzaozLPbMLPEN40OGMS+MlV2LuLCgkKOHZlU= ; Message-ID: <20041221230337.49338.qmail@web53910.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [172.142.146.92] by web53910.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:03:37 PST Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:03:37 -0800 (PST) From: David LeCount To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Make crashes when installing kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:03:38 -0000 I just installed FreeBSD 5.0 from cd on a 486 and I'm trying to update it to 5.3 which is on my better computer. Following the handbook, I used NFS to mount /usr/src and /usr/obj from the new machine to the old one. Then I made buildworld and buildkernel on the new machine with no problems. Then I went to single-user mode on the old machine (NFS mounts still valid) and tried to make installworld. Make immediately crashed, apparently calling a bad system call. I tried using the make that was created in /usr/obj but it did exactly the same thing. I was advised by someone to build everything like the following: make -D NO_CPU_CFLAGS=true -D NO_CPU_COPTFLAGS=true -j 4 buildworld make -D NO_CPU_CFLAGS=true -D NO_CPU_COPTFLAGS=true -j 4 buildkernel KERNCONF=GATEWAY but still the same issue. I don't think it's a problem with what architecture it's building for anyway. I'm desperate for help. I can't access the internet on my own computer until I get this machine running and it's way too slow to compile a kernel itself. Thanks. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=RRwS8b5POACYi5uMZMBHEo5sUiIlwrOBStD9zWpT91pqGHb16v6/lQ6+zXXupG6UX8q6Xwqfy4nwJVFpJZEOUrx+e4XgfBNpkfi8zSfqjGoVeDtcH8C9h5aGh3495u50Z2tO3e7XkTKBr/jtR2WAO5IrPWB+8Mhu+VFp2L/fMDQ= ; Message-ID: <20041221231321.46581.qmail@web13202.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.173.168.196] by web13202.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:13:21 PST Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:13:21 -0800 (PST) From: DAN To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Adding custom package to installation. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:13:21 -0000 Hi. I'm attempting to add a custom built package to the 4.10 Release, and have an error: "Unable to fetch pakcage dan-1.0.0 from selected media. No pakcage add will be done." I would like to have this package be added at installation time (using install.cfg). The setup: 1. Built a package with pkg_create. It installs fine with pkg_add. 2. Added the package (dan-1.0.0.tgz) to packages/All 3. Added this entry to packages/INDEX : dan-1.0.0||/|Test package||mrdan@mail.com|||| Also, what are the fields of the INDEX file? Thank you for your help. Regards, Dan __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Send a seasonal email greeting and help others. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 23:19:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA05E16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:19:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B505C43D2F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:19:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B270251288; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:19:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:19:04 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: David LeCount Message-ID: <20041221231904.GA28236@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20041221230337.49338.qmail@web53910.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="opJtzjQTFsWo+cga" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041221230337.49338.qmail@web53910.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Make crashes when installing kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:19:06 -0000 --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 03:03:37PM -0800, David LeCount wrote: > I just installed FreeBSD 5.0 from cd on a 486 and I'm > trying to update it to 5.3 which is on my better > computer. Following the handbook, I used NFS to mount > /usr/src and /usr/obj from the new machine to the old > one. Then I made buildworld and buildkernel on the new > machine with no problems. Then I went to single-user > mode on the old machine (NFS mounts still valid) and > tried to make installworld. Make immediately crashed, > apparently calling a bad system call. This is expected. You're supposed to install the new kernel before you reboot, or the new userland you install (which relies on system calls in the new kernel) cannot run. This is documented in the upgrading instructions, so I guess you just overlooked it. Kris --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFByK9oWry0BWjoQKURArlmAJ9bdlwFUw+Wh/RJveQVq4tk5zXjewCePz4I Q7fP0PfI9/RFqd+kJQVXWQI= =FvSu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 23:26:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBDBB16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:26:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from amcuxfw802.amc.af.mil (amcuxfw802.amc.af.mil [131.9.254.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B71A43D3F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:26:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david.hauan@fairchild.af.mil) Received: from amcw2av803.amc.ds.af.mil ([131.9.19.116]) by fw2.amc.af.mil with SMTP id iBLNPOZM011831; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:26:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from AMCW2BH506.amc.ds.af.mil ([131.9.25.136]) M2004122117262424272 ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:26:24 -0600 Received: from amcw2ms517.amc.ds.af.mil ([131.9.19.74]) by AMCW2BH506.amc.ds.af.mil with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:26:24 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:26:24 -0600 Message-ID: <59FD5336D1B1FA40AF6DDD241D8DBAC6012BECDC@amcw2ms517.amc.ds.af.mil> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: How to read Serial Port data Thread-Index: AcTnpybcyxsWlqLdTDO8fEEgjg3G4AADOAfw From: "Hauan David A Civ 92 CES/CERW" To: "Alvaro Rosales" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2004 23:26:25.0109 (UTC) FILETIME=[7D090850:01C4E7B4] Subject: RE: How to read Serial Port data X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:26:26 -0000 >=20 > Hi guys,=20 > I am trying to write a program to control my Alcatel telephonic > central, this device has a serial interfase that can be connected to > a computer serial port, I want to read all the data that the alcatel > device is sendind to my serial port > Can you tell me how can I redirect all the data that comes trough my > serial port to a file in FreeBSD?. > thanks in advance IIRC /usr/ports/comms/minicom or kermit will log serial traffic. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:27:40 -0000 anyone know who sells freebsd posters? --=20 _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.bsdmail.com Powered by Outblaze From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 23:35:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E8816A4E0 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:35:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from addr14.addr.com (addr14.addr.com [209.249.147.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0F543D46 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:35:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markski@addr14.addr.com) Received: from addr14.addr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])iBLNZQUh084622 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:35:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from markski@localhost) by addr14.addr.com (8.12.8/8.12.7/Submit) id iBLNZQB0084620 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:35:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:35:26 -0800 From: Mark To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041221153526.A81805@logik.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i X-ADDRSpamFilter: Passed, probability (0%) X-ADDRSignature: 1C5F50E3 Subject: xpdf/openmotif/xpm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:35:28 -0000 Has anyone managed to install xpdf from ports? I have cvsup'd my ports tree and grabbed the latest portaudit database, however: # cd /usr/ports/graphics/xpdf # make install clean distclean => xpdf-3.00.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.foolabs.com/pub/xpdf/. xpdf-3.00.tar.gz 100% of 522 kB 53 kBps ===> Extracting for xpdf-3.00_4 => Checksum OK for xpdf-3.00.tar.gz. ===> Patching for xpdf-3.00_4 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for xpdf-3.00_4 ===> xpdf-3.00_4 depends on executable: freetype-config - found ===> xpdf-3.00_4 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> xpdf-3.00_4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf259 - found ===> xpdf-3.00_4 depends on shared library: t1.5 - found ===> xpdf-3.00_4 depends on shared library: freetype.9 - found ===> xpdf-3.00_4 depends on shared library: Xm.3 - not found ===> Verifying install for Xm.3 in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/open-motif ===> open-motif-2.2.3 has known vulnerabilities: => xpm -- image decoding vulnerabilities. Reference: => Please update your ports tree and try again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/open-motif. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xpdf. According to the appropriate pages at freebsd.org/ports, all problems have been fixed. My system seems to think otherwise. Can anyone suggest a course of action? Thanks, mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 23:42:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732C016A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:42:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net (outbound04.telus.net [199.185.220.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D2843D1D for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:42:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from probertm@acm.org) Received: from kant ([207.6.183.158]) by priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20041221234209.HNIP28723.priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net@kant> for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:42:09 -0700 From: Mark Probert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:43:04 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412211543.04996.probertm@acm.org> Subject: Nortel Contivity VPN support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:42:10 -0000 Hi .. Does anyone know of any open-source/freeware software that will allow a FreeBSD box to connect to a Nortel Contivity switch? Many thanks, ----- -mark. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 23:49:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9BD16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:49:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DB943D1F for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:49:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B732F512BF; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:49:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:49:38 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Mark Message-ID: <20041221234938.GA28906@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20041221153526.A81805@logik.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041221153526.A81805@logik.ath.cx> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xpdf/openmotif/xpm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:49:39 -0000 --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 03:35:26PM -0800, Mark wrote: > According to the appropriate pages at freebsd.org/ports, all problems > have been fixed. What pages? I don't see any evidence of a commit to openmotif that fixes this problem. If this is the case, you need to talk to the openmotif developers to find out about the status of this vulnerability. Kris --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFByLaSWry0BWjoQKURAr7FAJ9DkVFNJa2Km0SYByoEg4Qzl2j91wCgmOh0 GrkRoDWJziWelxDhQzH4s1k= =KfZY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 00:03:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD9916A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:03:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C511343D3F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:03:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from [192.168.1.77] (c-24-8-184-241.client.comcast.net [24.8.184.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBM01BDQ025106 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:01:11 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Message-ID: <41C8B6C4.6050508@vilot.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:50:28 -0700 From: Tom Vilot Organization: 3Dimentia, Incorporated User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: VMWare Workstation? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:03:50 -0000 I have not yet tried this ... but has anyone gotten VMWare workstation running on FreeBSD? Of course, I don't mean running FreeBSD as a client OS in, say, Linux or Windows. But running it as the host OS. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 00:04:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BDC16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:04:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pd4mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C017643D39 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:04:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flowers@users.sourceforge.net) Received: from pd5mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (pd5mr3so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.144]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I93004AIK7EAK10@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:04:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml9so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.7]) by pd5mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I9300CVWK7EBKD0@pd5mr3so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:04:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from procyon.nekulturny.org (S0106000c41b2b9a3.cg.shawcable.net [68.144.45.143]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I9300KBHK7EIR@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:04:26 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:04:26 -0700 From: Danny MacMillan In-reply-to: <000601c4e621$788afb60$a23db918@D1TWQX41> To: Leon Message-id: <20041222000426.GA1290@procyon.nekulturny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline References: <000601c4e621$788afb60$a23db918@D1TWQX41> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Access to the Internet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:04:30 -0000 On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 06:21:30PM -0500, Leon wrote: > But when I have tried to connect to the Internet by using "KDE", > it did not work. It gave me an error: > "Unknown host www.dke-look.org. If you typed the above exactly, it is no wonder it did not work. It should rather be: http://www.kde-look.org -- Danny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 00:16:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B8D16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:16:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from addr14.addr.com (addr14.addr.com [209.249.147.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028A043D2F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:16:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markski@addr14.addr.com) Received: from addr14.addr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])iBM0GlUh004115; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:16:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from markski@localhost) by addr14.addr.com (8.12.8/8.12.7/Submit) id iBM0GlDA004110; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:16:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:16:47 -0800 From: Mark To: kris@obsecurity.org Message-ID: <20041221161647.A2610@logik.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <20041221234938.GA28906@xor.obsecurity.org> X-ADDRSpamFilter: Passed, probability (0%) X-ADDRSignature: 5703978 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xpdf/openmotif/xpm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:16:52 -0000 On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 03:49:38PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > What pages? I don't see any evidence of a commit to openmotif that > fixes this problem. If this is the case, you need to talk to the > openmotif developers to find out about the status of this > vulnerability. Ah, oops. Seems I was looking at the wrong openmotif (linux-openmotif). I'll contact the developers directly. Thanks, mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 00:18:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA1E16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:18:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cyclone.mail.adnap.net.au (cyclone.mail.adnap.net.au [203.6.132.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F132F43D2F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:18:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tim@spyderweb.com.au) Received: from bofh.spyderweb.com.au (202-6-154-210.ip.adam.com.au [202.6.154.210]) by cyclone.mail.adnap.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590E99932B for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:51:24 +1030 (CST) Received: from spyderweb.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.spyderweb.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBM0I1ve038049 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:48:02 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from tim@spyderweb.com.au) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:48:00 +1030 From: Tim Aslat To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041222104800.76a296de@bofh.spyderweb.com.au> In-Reply-To: <41C8B6C4.6050508@vilot.com> References: <41C8B6C4.6050508@vilot.com> Organization: Spyderweb Consulting X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: VMWare Workstation? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:18:21 -0000 In the immortal words of Tom Vilot ... > I have not yet tried this ... but has anyone gotten VMWare workstation > running on FreeBSD? Of course, I don't mean running FreeBSD as a > client OS in, say, Linux or Windows. But running it as the host OS. I have, until I upgraded my machine. I was running VMware workstation 3 under FreeBSD 5.2.1 without incident, however when I upgraded my machine to a P4-2.6G with HyperThreading, it stopped working because the linux emulation can't cope with SMP. If you are running a uniprocessor system it should work fine. Good Luck Cheers Tim -- Tim Aslat Spyderweb Consulting http://www.spyderweb.com.au Phone: +61 0401088479 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 01:04:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C570B16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:04:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41DB543D2F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:04:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from valeri.ufo@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 63so187528wri for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:04:26 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qHQp99iPI8zD7DtI98clx7mMfw3HhVRQ64yb2/D8F+pQzcSWxx0mGOJAAJa/araRzYbc68sGa4LUkIqEQZnaPXdtjSJV2idhfHcCN3YLi0+89jby1KvX64NBJO7p3Vv7k5fbqqAlqNoCF76oenalKORhw7zpNqcr3zHXagX1hzo= Received: by 10.54.59.24 with SMTP id h24mr243252wra; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.17.27 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:04:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:04:26 +0100 From: Valeri Vassiliev To: questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: motd in color X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Valeri Vassiliev List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:04:27 -0000 FreeBSD uFoPc_fbsd.ufosoft.org 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 hi, want to to know if its possible to colorize the /etc/motd with escape sequences, if yes how ? thx From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 01:17:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B153C16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:17:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53907.mail.yahoo.com (web53907.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3325943D5D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:17:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from snailboy1@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 81126 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Dec 2004 01:17:16 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=ePKuMw8XeIqD//dAAoVFMyLfDerxZE6oTEH3AcAPd58+TzkjBHgFxQRK059psiT7EQJ2ih0SH1o/MDw3Apu22js/9au89vWBYn3+kpuJYH7Owwy5itE9KvUkHjSR1t51xcHp5g6ZGaeIGQlmEhnKxEIDuVfBqvIWZljXXRHOgMM= ; Message-ID: <20041222011716.81123.qmail@web53907.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [172.147.52.170] by web53907.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:17:16 PST Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:17:16 -0800 (PST) From: David LeCount To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041221231904.GA28236@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Make crashes when installing kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:17:17 -0000 If you're meaning the make in /usr/obj, yes I can understand that one not working. However, it does not explain why the one already installed crashes. That is the old one which came with 5.0-RELEASE. --- Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 03:03:37PM -0800, David > LeCount wrote: > > I just installed FreeBSD 5.0 from cd on a 486 and > I'm > > trying to update it to 5.3 which is on my better > > computer. Following the handbook, I used NFS to > mount > > /usr/src and /usr/obj from the new machine to the > old > > one. Then I made buildworld and buildkernel on the > new > > machine with no problems. Then I went to > single-user > > mode on the old machine (NFS mounts still valid) > and > > tried to make installworld. Make immediately > crashed, > > apparently calling a bad system call. > > This is expected. You're supposed to install the > new kernel before > you reboot, or the new userland you install (which > relies on system > calls in the new kernel) cannot run. This is > documented in the > upgrading instructions, so I guess you just > overlooked it. > > Kris > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 01:19:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F8116A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:19:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721EE43D1D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:19:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CAD1A512BF; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:19:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:19:27 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Mark Message-ID: <20041222011927.GA60472@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20041221234938.GA28906@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041221161647.A2610@logik.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jRHKVT23PllUwdXP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041221161647.A2610@logik.ath.cx> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: kris@obsecurity.org Subject: Re: xpdf/openmotif/xpm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:19:28 -0000 --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 04:16:47PM -0800, Mark wrote: > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 03:49:38PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > What pages? I don't see any evidence of a commit to openmotif that > > fixes this problem. If this is the case, you need to talk to the > > openmotif developers to find out about the status of this > > vulnerability. >=20 > Ah, oops. Seems I was looking at the wrong openmotif (linux-openmotif). > I'll contact the developers directly. You should also talk to the port maintainer to see if they've got work in progress to fix it. e.g. there might already be a fix released by the authors, which needs someone to submit an update to the FreeBSD port. Kris --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFByMufWry0BWjoQKURAk7cAJwLImc49mDWfBBNBfNREBEQrzYN+QCfeeKr ddSlJbvAkp9YaurqGAJsZCk= =AXp/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 01:22:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A4B416A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:22:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4372443D46 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:22:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9D3C2512BF; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:21:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:21:59 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: David LeCount Message-ID: <20041222012159.GB60472@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20041221231904.GA28236@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041222011716.81123.qmail@web53907.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4SFOXa2GPu3tIq4H" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041222011716.81123.qmail@web53907.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Make crashes when installing kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:22:00 -0000 --4SFOXa2GPu3tIq4H Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 05:17:16PM -0800, David LeCount wrote: > If you're meaning the make in /usr/obj, yes I can > understand that one not working. However, it does not > explain why the one already installed crashes. That is > the old one which came with 5.0-RELEASE. It's probably actually crashing when trying to execute the new /bin/sh that it just installed, but if it got past that it would at least crash after installing the new make as well. It might be some work to recover the system from this point, although if you can find a working cp binary you might be able to manually copy the new kernel into place and try again from there - if not, your best bet might be to reinstall 5.3-RELEASE from scratch. Kris P.S. Don't top-post. > --- Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 03:03:37PM -0800, David > > LeCount wrote: > > > I just installed FreeBSD 5.0 from cd on a 486 and > > I'm > > > trying to update it to 5.3 which is on my better > > > computer. Following the handbook, I used NFS to > > mount > > > /usr/src and /usr/obj from the new machine to the > > old > > > one. Then I made buildworld and buildkernel on the > > new > > > machine with no problems. Then I went to > > single-user > > > mode on the old machine (NFS mounts still valid) > > and > > > tried to make installworld. Make immediately > > crashed, > > > apparently calling a bad system call. > >=20 > > This is expected. You're supposed to install the > > new kernel before > > you reboot, or the new userland you install (which > > relies on system > > calls in the new kernel) cannot run. This is > > documented in the > > upgrading instructions, so I guess you just > > overlooked it. > >=20 > > Kris > >=20 >=20 > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around=20 > http://mail.yahoo.com=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 --4SFOXa2GPu3tIq4H Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFByMw3Wry0BWjoQKURAilmAKDHMzx4tP8cSH48AJK6hJx6tchGgACgttMO cCT8ataQJ1JpSpdGbtjl58s= =vC+M -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4SFOXa2GPu3tIq4H-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 01:47:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022FE16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:47:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E91C43D2F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:47:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so1613wra for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:47:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=b+CMagufxHipP+qVIbxk3d8bDDWd97MXmxV6S0mHAHbNebM3ws9p/o2niQrsjiKw3/6u/X0GoqysqUoSaXlZcCQp8l1PpWyDTTE1Mc9nHhOty4OXKUeeQsxxZK2Vyfz/Ln3ai4yQwT1ZFDNY2GuCRP34sPOYGtBuzfoVVan8Ano= Received: by 10.54.36.77 with SMTP id j77mr51356wrj; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:47:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.37.19 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:47:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19861fba04122117477ff11204@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:47:19 +0100 From: J65nko BSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41C8A282.8010203@nerdshack.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41C8A282.8010203@nerdshack.com> Subject: Re: Desperate for Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: J65nko BSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:47:46 -0000 On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:24:02 -0500, alfredo perez wrote: > Heloo list > > I have been trying to set up my FreeBSD 5.3 to get my emails with no > results. I have installed and set up Mutt, Ssmtp and Fetchmail. None of > them are working properly. I have no idea where to start first. I have > already read the man pages and followed several how-tos I found on the > internet but no results. I was wondering if any of you know of a web > site with steps that I can follow to sep up my Mutt, fetchmail and > ssmtp. I dont want to give up on this!!! > > THANKS Start with fetchmail. You need a ".fetchmailrc" file in your home directory. Some examples poll pop.domain2.com protocol POP3 timeout 60 no dns user "loginname" password 'poppassword' is homedirowner here, options fetchall fetchlimit 0 poll pop3.domain.com protocol POP3 user "loginname@domain.com" password "poppasswd" is homedirowner here, options fetchall As you can see some ISP's require only your login name, others require "loginname@domain.com". You can run "fetchmail -v" to see where you get stuck. This is an example for googles gmail, using SSL poll pop.gmail.com protocol POP3 timeout 60 no dns user "gmailname" password "gmailpassword" ssl is homdirowner here, options fetchall fetchlimit 0 If you are new to all this MTA, MUA and SMTP thing, you could consider to use Pine. mutt is nice but as a beginner Pine is probably easier to understand and configure than mutt. Just take step by step ;) J65nko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 02:02:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E431B16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:02:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C6F143D4C for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:02:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Mike.Jeays@rogers.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.100?) (mjeays2551@24.114.152.139 with plain) by smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 02:02:24 -0000 From: Mike Jeays To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1103680952.33623.2.camel@chaucer> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:02:32 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Copying a directory hierarchy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:02:26 -0000 How does on copy a complete directory hierarchy, including any hidden files? "cp -rp" leaves them out. Some versions of cp seem to have a '-a' flag which will make it copy them, but it isn't available in the FreeBSD version. Is there a trick, or something obvious I have missed? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 02:10:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F47F16A4D7 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:10:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC8543D1F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:10:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBM2AQqM052817 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:10:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41C8D79A.4000203@mac.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:10:34 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Valeri Vassiliev References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: motd in color X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:10:35 -0000 Valeri Vassiliev wrote: [ ... ] > hi, want to to know if its possible to colorize the /etc/motd with > escape sequences, if yes how ? If you are willing assume the user is always going to be on a certain terminal type which supports color, yes, you can certainly add the terminal-specific ESC sequences to /etc/motd via an editor which supports binary input (emacs has a hex mode for this, for example). It's probably not a great idea, though. I'd be more tempted to write a C program which queried TERMCAP or use curses to deal with color properly if I thought it was worth the effort in the first place, although some shells (zsh, maybe bash) also have decent support for color in their scripts. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 02:12:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3836A16A4D1 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:12:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0654743D55 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:12:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-197-67.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com ([209.6.197.67] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #7) id 1Cgvzi-0003Of-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:12:55 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16840.55078.815394.941348@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:08:38 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1103680952.33623.2.camel@chaucer> References: <1103680952.33623.2.camel@chaucer> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta16) "celeriac" XEmacs Lucid Subject: Copying a directory hierarchy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:12:56 -0000 Mike Jeays writes: > How does on copy a complete directory hierarchy, including any hidden > files? > > "cp -rp" leaves them out. cp -rp * cp -rp .* Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 02:31:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBDB16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:31:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0005543D53 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:31:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBM2VR8H066533 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:31:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41C8DC87.5080207@mac.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:31:35 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Conover References: <20041221104508.1002.qmail@rahul.net> In-Reply-To: <20041221104508.1002.qmail@rahul.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS2 with Soft Updates Robust? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:31:34 -0000 John Conover wrote: > Is UFS2 with soft updates the most robust file system in freebsd? No, although UFS2 with softupdates is robust enough for production use. If you make the filesystem writes syncronous and disable write caching on the hard drive, you will improve the robustness at significant cost to performance. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 02:33:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF2316A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:33:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from safeco.hostingservice.net (safeco.hostingservice.net [209.150.128.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED6C43D2D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:33:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adam@jamradar.com) Received: from PANASONIULSWMR (c-67-176-199-73.client.comcast.net [67.176.199.73])iBM2X5M03031 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:33:05 -0600 Message-ID: <000801c4e7ce$9006a3d0$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> From: "Adam" To: Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:32:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Environment Varialbes per User X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:33:06 -0000 Can environment variables be set/customized per user? For instance I = want root to have MAIL=3D/var/mail/root2 and user Mike to have = MAIL=3D/var/mail/mike6. Is this possible to customize per user? Thanks Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 02:44:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FFBF16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:44:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from galilee.polands.org (CPE-24-208-53-189.new.rr.com [24.208.53.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8238943D1D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:44:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (jericho.polands.org [172.16.1.35]) by galilee.polands.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBM2iNRZ061699; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:44:24 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBM2iN7p053454; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:44:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@jericho.polands.org) Received: (from djp@localhost) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBM2iNsL053453; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:44:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:44:23 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: Mike Jeays Message-ID: <20041222024420.GA53396@polands.org> References: <1103680952.33623.2.camel@chaucer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1103680952.33623.2.camel@chaucer> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Copying a directory hierarchy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:44:26 -0000 On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 09:02:32PM -0500, Mike Jeays wrote: > How does on copy a complete directory hierarchy, including any hidden > files? > My personal favorite, from gtar (formerly tar) man page: To move file hierarchies, use a command line like this: tar -cf - -C srcdir . | tar xpf - -C destdir -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 02:57:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56CDA16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:57:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7ED143D2D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:57:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBM2v5bw082484 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:57:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41C8E289.4040609@mac.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:57:13 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam References: <000801c4e7ce$9006a3d0$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> In-Reply-To: <000801c4e7ce$9006a3d0$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Environment Varialbes per User X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:57:26 -0000 Adam wrote: > Can environment variables be set/customized per user? Yes. Read "man sh", "man csh", and so forth for the files used by each specific shell, but the idea is that you create a .login/.profile/.cshrc or whatever in each user's home directory which contains such settings. In fact, FreeBSD normally provides default versions of these already which set up the PATH. I believe you can also use the login.conf mechanism to set up env variables for groups or classes of users. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 03:12:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE73716A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:12:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9EB0743D46 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:12:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@hyperreal.org) Received: (qmail 63421 invoked by uid 1001); 22 Dec 2004 03:12:03 -0000 Message-ID: <20041222031203.63420.qmail@hyperreal.org> In-Reply-To: <41C89FFF.7050606@netual.pt> To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1rio_Gamito?= Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:12:03 -0800 (PST) Sender: mike@hyperreal.org From: Mike Brown X-Whoa: whoa. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL119 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No latin characters :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:12:01 -0000 Mrio Gamito wrote: > Hi again, > > I did everything just as you told me. > When i type a latin letter like , etc., i get a greek letter :( Internally, your "" is probably byte 0xE1, as that is how it is defined by the ISO-8859-1 character map, and I assume that it's being interpreted correctly on the input side. If this byte is interpreted for output/display according to another character map, then you will see some other character that you didn't intend. For example, if it looks like "" (Latin small letter sharp s, which is used when writing the German language), then the byte is being interpreted according to CP437. If you tell us what character you get, it may help. We also need to know what you are using for display. Anything you can tell us about your setup, and how *we* can reproduce your results... There are so many possible points of failure, and you have not told us enough. Are you using the console (using hardware text modes), or are you doing this via an X Window session and a terminal window, or are you SSHing in and looking at everything through a Windows or Mac OS X environment? If you're not doing this at the console, then what SSH or terminal app are you using and how do you have it configured? In what are you typing the non-ASCII characters -- a shell? a text editor? Which one? All of these things make a difference. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 03:22:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCC216A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:22:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F3F943D5D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:22:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Mike.Jeays@rogers.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.100?) (mjeays2551@24.114.152.139 with plain) by smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 03:22:53 -0000 From: Mike Jeays To: Robert Huff In-Reply-To: <16840.55078.815394.941348@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <1103680952.33623.2.camel@chaucer> <16840.55078.815394.941348@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1103685781.33623.9.camel@chaucer> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:23:01 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Copying a directory hierarchy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:22:54 -0000 On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 21:08, Robert Huff wrote: > Mike Jeays writes: > > > How does on copy a complete directory hierarchy, including any hidden > > files? > > > > "cp -rp" leaves them out. > > cp -rp * > cp -rp .* > > > Robert Huff > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" This doesn't copy hidden files in lower-level directories, only in the top level. Thanks for the suggestion - a good idea that doesn't quite do it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 03:24:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6C016A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:24:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 398CD43D1F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:24:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rlurman@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so177520rne for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:24:17 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oIMGEJI9cZZ7FP+c+3S9WgRNUsgK2VWKM0ZI/Yw9BQ5qlchVvP7YU1y07KE7ukESmkcUddJG+dpTuMOcrsV04E7QrMh04r/SKEXAZXwovX+hbgV+j1OzYA3nXjRcVXKU8wcHOjd5MOS+LVtUn/J7Qx1XEaSjJ2ONEGErubl9xLA= Received: by 10.38.207.56 with SMTP id e56mr411724rng; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:24:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.149.33 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:24:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:24:17 -0500 From: RL To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: RL List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:24:18 -0000 Hi. I currently have a cable modem, but I want to (if it's not too pricey) run my own servers including DNS server. My cable provider currently doesn't offer static IPs so I have a dynamic. How would I go about setting up my own DNS? Would I do it through the cable modem? Wouldn't I have to buy an IP block and be the authority for it? I'm a little lost. :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 03:40:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B502516A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:40:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C45443D46 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:40:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-197-67.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com ([209.6.197.67] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #7) id 1CgxMN-0003xq-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:40:23 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16840.60324.564736.745132@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:36:04 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta16) "celeriac" XEmacs Lucid Subject: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:40:24 -0000 RL writes: > Hi. I currently have a cable modem, but I want to (if it's not > too pricey) run my own servers including DNS server. My cable > provider currently doesn't offer static IPs so I have a dynamic. In which case the key question is "How often do you get renumbered?". If it's once a week, it's probably not worth it. In my case, I've had the current IP for over a year. I could, hypothetically run a DNS server without any problem. You also need to see how your ISP really feels about servers that violate their Terms of Service. Some scan aggressively and will lock offenders down or terminate service; mine is "If it's not a problem, it's not a problem." Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 03:53:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E3416A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:53:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ylpvm53.prodigy.net (ylpvm53-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD1243D46 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:53:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from n0oct@sbcglobal.net) Received: from shirley (ppp-68-89-144-63.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [68.89.144.63]) (authenticated bits=0)iBM3rnf6005631 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:53:50 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:53:18 -0600 From: n0oct@sbcglobal.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20041221215318.7f40f7e3@shirley> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Another Moregroupware question. . . X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:53:20 -0000 Currently running FreeBSD 4.10-p2, Apache-1.3.19, php-4 and moregroupware-0.7.1. I have read the previous questions regarding this software [I built it from ports], but my installation fails setup with: Fatal error: Call to undefined function: session_id() in /usr/local/www/moregroupware/include/log.inc.php on line 70 That might make one think that php is either nonexistant or misconfigured. I tweaked php.ini according to the moregroupware handbook, and the output of pkg_info | grep php looks like this: mod_php4-4.3.9,1 PHP Apache Module php4-bz2-4.3.9 The bz2 shared extension for php php4-calendar-4.3.9 The calendar shared extension for php php4-crack-4.3.9 The crack shared extension for php php4-ctype-4.3.9 The ctype shared extension for php php4-dba-4.3.9 The dba shared extension for php php4-dbase-4.3.9 The dbase shared extension for php php4-dio-4.3.9 The dio shared extension for php php4-extensions-1.0 A "meta-port" to install PHP extensions php4-ftp-4.3.9 The ftp shared extension for php php4-gettext-4.3.9 The gettext shared extension for php php4-mcal-4.3.9 The mcal shared extension for php php4-mysql-4.3.9 The mysql shared extension for php php4-overload-4.3.9 The overload shared extension for php php4-pcre-4.3.9 The pcre shared extension for php php4-posix-4.3.9 The posix shared extension for php php4-session-4.3.9 The session shared extension for php php4-tokenizer-4.3.9 The tokenizer shared extension for php php4-xml-4.3.9 The xml shared extension for php php4-zlib-4.3.9 The zlib shared extension for php So, was gibt's? If something is missing, it isn't easily determined by reading the moregroupware handbook, reading the moregroupware mailing list archives or searching the web. I had this software working on a prior incarnation of this machine [6 months ago], but two days after finishing installing moregroupware, configuring all the users, etc., a hard drive failed and I had to start over from scratch. -- 72, Jim N0OCT From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 03:56:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B231C16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:56:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5622843D53 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:56:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamera@pacbell.net) Received: from unknown (HELO gamerasmog.com) (gamera@pacbell.net@64.173.26.30 with login) by smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 03:56:20 -0000 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:56:15 -0800 From: Joshua Tinnin To: RL Message-ID: <20041222035615.GA10180@gamerasmog.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:56:20 -0000 On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 10:24:17PM -0500, RL wrote: > Hi. I currently have a cable modem, but I want to (if it's not too > pricey) run my own servers including DNS server. My cable provider > currently doesn't offer static IPs so I have a dynamic. How would I > go about setting up my own DNS? Would I do it through the cable modem? > Wouldn't I have to buy an IP block and be the authority for it? I'm a > little lost. :) You will have problems doing this unless you have a static IP. I don't think any cable service offers that. You can run a DNS server on an internal network in your case. It's also possible to run a dynamic IP resolver service, like No-IP's (dns/noip), but that is far from perfect, unless you're just doing this for testing. For any real-world purpose, you really have to have a static IP and a fully-qualified hostname. I have read of people running their own servers for everyday use using something like No-IP, but if you're running a mail server, you will most likely have to deal with mail being rejected because of blacklisting (many ISPs block all major ISPs' dynamic blocks from sending to their mail servers to prevent spam), as well as reverse dns problems. It can work alright for a small website server setup for fun or testing, or something that won't require complicated network protocols. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 03:59:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD92616A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:59:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74DD043D2D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:59:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rlurman@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so179865rne for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:59:51 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=d8v2qnTqpOuPtPEWKmpcKIgvdrTuCkStqX8s4S9fqS+7Y2LV0wwRT1+XSsXAriO4J1+1Y3GEZmIGKCG/m0x/N/EM1KsCN7V5AQ84fW7Zx6i4CQwjDiTe9y71gMrqSKKPWB9MjDwufGODUxcCGD0EvFNSC0+YWspCU2bDyChvmvI= Received: by 10.38.157.1 with SMTP id f1mr27706rne; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:59:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.149.33 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:59:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:59:51 -0500 From: RL To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041222035615.GA10180@gamerasmog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041222035615.GA10180@gamerasmog.com> Subject: Re: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: RL List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:59:52 -0000 On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:56:15 -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 10:24:17PM -0500, RL wrote: > > Hi. I currently have a cable modem, but I want to (if it's not too > > pricey) run my own servers including DNS server. My cable provider > > currently doesn't offer static IPs so I have a dynamic. How would I > > go about setting up my own DNS? Would I do it through the cable modem? > > Wouldn't I have to buy an IP block and be the authority for it? I'm a > > little lost. :) > > You will have problems doing this unless you have a static IP. I don't > think any cable service offers that. You can run a DNS server on an > internal network in your case. It's also possible to run a dynamic IP > resolver service, like No-IP's (dns/noip), but that is far from perfect, > unless you're just doing this for testing. For any real-world purpose, > you really have to have a static IP and a fully-qualified hostname. I > have read of people running their own servers for everyday use using > something like No-IP, but if you're running a mail server, you will most > likely have to deal with mail being rejected because of blacklisting > (many ISPs block all major ISPs' dynamic blocks from sending to their > mail servers to prevent spam), as well as reverse dns problems. It can > work alright for a small website server setup for fun or testing, or > something that won't require complicated network protocols. > > - jt > I just called my cable modem ISP (adelphia) and they said a static IP address is $130 per month!!!!!! Forget that! Now what are my other options? I do have a dynDNS address for my dynamic IP, but I can't run a DNS server and do reverse DNS with that. :( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 04:02:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8D216A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:02:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.praemunio.com (mail.praemunio.com [66.179.47.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 51F0343D54 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:02:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@knobbe.us) Received: from localhost (HELO mail.knobbe.us) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 22:02:37 -0600 Received: from server1.home.knobbe.us by firewall1.home.knobbe.us with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 22:02:36 -0600 Received: from localhost by localhost with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 22:02:36 -0600 From: Frank Knobbe To: RL In-Reply-To: References: <20041222035615.GA10180@gamerasmog.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:02:35 -0600 Message-Id: <1103688155.7511.11.camel@server1> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:02:38 -0000 On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 22:59 -0500, RL wrote: > I just called my cable modem ISP (adelphia) and they said a static IP > address is $130 per month!!!!!! Forget that! Now what are my other > options? I do have a dynDNS address for my dynamic IP, but I can't run > a DNS server and do reverse DNS with that. :( Without your ISPs assistance, you wouldn't be able to run reverse DNS anyway. Forward DNS on dynamic IP's is tricky as you have to re-register/change your name servers IP address with your domain name provider every time you get a new address. DynDNS for SMPT is doable, but forget DNS. -Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 04:06:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8184516A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:06:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8CD43D2F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:06:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rlurman@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so180268rne for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:06:06 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=EEH1k7tf8hJAi357vNcHxS5IhYVU2D4i9PDTIF9G94bqGPt2dGK8wbnx2caoRGUduLcdIsxONXfiO/QGSEXAOSWVhKawlTxusXeLzH+FrsG2XXHB0Xqn/Oo9vWVryRbTV9xmYVlqeLUgrKMZAuZSWBFV+2JO65WiNB6mp9VD/7g= Received: by 10.38.13.1 with SMTP id 1mr233982rnm; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:06:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.149.33 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:06:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:06:06 -0500 From: RL To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041222035615.GA10180@gamerasmog.com> <1103688155.7511.11.camel@server1> Subject: Re: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: RL List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:06:08 -0000 On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:04:55 -0500, RL wrote: > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:02:35 -0600, Frank Knobbe wrote: > > On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 22:59 -0500, RL wrote: > > > I just called my cable modem ISP (adelphia) and they said a static IP > > > address is $130 per month!!!!!! Forget that! Now what are my other > > > options? I do have a dynDNS address for my dynamic IP, but I can't run > > > a DNS server and do reverse DNS with that. :( > > > > Without your ISPs assistance, you wouldn't be able to run reverse DNS > > anyway. Forward DNS on dynamic IP's is tricky as you have to > > re-register/change your name servers IP address with your domain name > > provider every time you get a new address. > > > > DynDNS for SMPT is doable, but forget DNS. > > > > -Frank So I guess my only option *if* I wanted to do this was to buy a business class DSL service that offers a static IP? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 04:09:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728F716A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:09:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B15443D39 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:09:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A7460E2; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:09:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25927-05; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:09:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406CB60CD; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:09:41 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41C8F39A.30104@makeworld.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:10:02 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041218) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RL References: <20041222035615.GA10180@gamerasmog.com> <1103688155.7511.11.camel@server1> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.0 (20041102) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:09:46 -0000 RL wrote: > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:04:55 -0500, RL wrote: > >>On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:02:35 -0600, Frank Knobbe wrote: >> >>>On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 22:59 -0500, RL wrote: >>> >>>>I just called my cable modem ISP (adelphia) and they said a static IP >>>>address is $130 per month!!!!!! Forget that! Now what are my other >>>>options? I do have a dynDNS address for my dynamic IP, but I can't run >>>>a DNS server and do reverse DNS with that. :( >>> >>>Without your ISPs assistance, you wouldn't be able to run reverse DNS >>>anyway. Forward DNS on dynamic IP's is tricky as you have to >>>re-register/change your name servers IP address with your domain name >>>provider every time you get a new address. >>> >>>DynDNS for SMPT is doable, but forget DNS. >>> >>>-Frank > > > > So I guess my only option *if* I wanted to do this was to buy a > business class DSL service that offers a static IP? Correct - then again *IF* the DSL provider will allow you to be authoritive (and that's not really gonna happen) They will howver, do the reverse for you at that point. -- Best regards, Chris There are two kinds of adhesive tape: That which won't stay on and that which won't come off. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 04:09:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009B616A4CF for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:09:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.praemunio.com (mail.praemunio.com [66.179.47.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7899C43D41 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:09:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@knobbe.us) Received: from localhost (HELO mail.knobbe.us) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 22:09:57 -0600 Received: from server1.home.knobbe.us by firewall1.home.knobbe.us with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 22:09:56 -0600 Received: from localhost by localhost with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 22:09:55 -0600 From: Frank Knobbe To: RL In-Reply-To: References: <20041222035615.GA10180@gamerasmog.com> <1103688155.7511.11.camel@server1> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:09:55 -0600 Message-Id: <1103688595.7511.17.camel@server1> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:09:58 -0000 On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 23:04 -0500, RL wrote: > So I guess my only option *if* I wanted to do this was to buy a > business class DSL service that offers a static IP? Or find someone with public name servers that is willing to pull zones from your name server. Your domains then reference those 3rd party name servers, but not your own. But since those 3rd party name servers pull zones from your box, you are still in control of your zones as far as configuration of zone information is concerned. Regards, Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 04:12:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C732516A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:12:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CF043D31 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:12:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rlurman@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so180647rne for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:12:04 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=kk1DcsxiLych+QzKRcOWvcyGx2LLEC/Zlpd4wN4ovUmtondT8+VSI1kxbRDevmRN8tfDAAEmcrglXZYQmw6qh1bbflvha1oXN1EbSCF/y+n064A1uRo0hemNUdDrNzPqecU0n0UkfXjCVSGL4vOQ/EK9iYuwUNV9qNsryjJi/js= Received: by 10.38.207.56 with SMTP id e56mr429819rng; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:12:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.149.33 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:12:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:12:04 -0500 From: RL To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41C8F39A.30104@makeworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041222035615.GA10180@gamerasmog.com> <1103688155.7511.11.camel@server1> <41C8F39A.30104@makeworld.com> Subject: Re: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: RL List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:12:05 -0000 On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:10:02 -0600, Chris wrote: > RL wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:04:55 -0500, RL wrote: > > > >>On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:02:35 -0600, Frank Knobbe wrote: > >> > >>>On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 22:59 -0500, RL wrote: > >>> > >>>>I just called my cable modem ISP (adelphia) and they said a static IP > >>>>address is $130 per month!!!!!! Forget that! Now what are my other > >>>>options? I do have a dynDNS address for my dynamic IP, but I can't run > >>>>a DNS server and do reverse DNS with that. :( > >>> > >>>Without your ISPs assistance, you wouldn't be able to run reverse DNS > >>>anyway. Forward DNS on dynamic IP's is tricky as you have to > >>>re-register/change your name servers IP address with your domain name > >>>provider every time you get a new address. > >>> > >>>DynDNS for SMPT is doable, but forget DNS. > >>> > >>>-Frank > > > > > > > > So I guess my only option *if* I wanted to do this was to buy a > > business class DSL service that offers a static IP? > > Correct - then again *IF* the DSL provider will allow you to be > authoritive (and that's not really gonna happen) They will howver, do > the reverse for you at that point. > > -- > Best regards, > Chris > > There are two kinds of adhesive tape: That which won't > stay on and that which won't come off. > What's the most popular option? Is it buying a business DSL or T1 service or is it to colocate it? All of them are pricey. :( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 04:14:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6327916A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:14:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp806.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp806.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 358EE43D4C for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:14:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamera@pacbell.net) Received: from unknown (HELO gamerasmog.com) (gamera@pacbell.net@64.173.26.30 with login) by smtp806.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 04:14:49 -0000 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:14:44 -0800 From: Joshua Tinnin To: RL Message-ID: <20041222041444.GB10180@gamerasmog.com> References: <20041222035615.GA10180@gamerasmog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:14:50 -0000 On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 10:59:51PM -0500, RL wrote: > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:56:15 -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 10:24:17PM -0500, RL wrote: > > > Hi. I currently have a cable modem, but I want to (if it's not too > > > pricey) run my own servers including DNS server. My cable provider > > > currently doesn't offer static IPs so I have a dynamic. How would I > > > go about setting up my own DNS? Would I do it through the cable modem? > > > Wouldn't I have to buy an IP block and be the authority for it? I'm a > > > little lost. :) > > > > You will have problems doing this unless you have a static IP. I don't > > think any cable service offers that. You can run a DNS server on an > > internal network in your case. It's also possible to run a dynamic IP > > resolver service, like No-IP's (dns/noip), but that is far from perfect, > > unless you're just doing this for testing. For any real-world purpose, > > you really have to have a static IP and a fully-qualified hostname. I > > have read of people running their own servers for everyday use using > > something like No-IP, but if you're running a mail server, you will most > > likely have to deal with mail being rejected because of blacklisting > > (many ISPs block all major ISPs' dynamic blocks from sending to their > > mail servers to prevent spam), as well as reverse dns problems. It can > > work alright for a small website server setup for fun or testing, or > > something that won't require complicated network protocols. > > I just called my cable modem ISP (adelphia) and they said a static IP > address is $130 per month!!!!!! Forget that! Now what are my other > options? I do have a dynDNS address for my dynamic IP, but I can't run > a DNS server and do reverse DNS with that. :( Well, that's news to me. I guess it was just a matter of time before cable providers started offering static IP. Even so, you're probably best off shopping around a bit, although you most likely won't find anything that's $40/mo., but who knows? One advantage of going with a smaller provider with a good reputation is that your IP won't be blacklisted (or there is much less likelihood of it). One problem with so many people running servers these days is that you don't know who to trust, so whole IP blocks of major ISPs end up being blacklisted, and not just the dynamic blocks, but this is more likely to happen if the ISP is careless about spam. If you're going to go through with it and spend the extra money, make sure to do some research and get a good IP with a reputable company. As for other options, you're kinda stuck with the problems of reverse dns, except if your IP isn't released for a long time, but then you're sort of gambling. Anyway, it's kind of a drag, I remember a time not long ago when static IPs with shell accounts on dialup were cheap, but now that so many people have broadband, you really have to pony up a bit of extra cash to get your IP out of the swamp of IP blocks full of zombied machines. But you can always do some testing on your own to see what would work for you. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 04:16:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86CD216A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:16:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E7A43D39 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:16:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kerochan2@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so96422rne for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:16:04 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=UyydXD7Ra4AZeom8Tt3x8N/yxmwatsD1qhExY02D/y6NOKtZUGsdqfWLUSjjI7+LOzOqb5kB2c5BtRZ6piDirOYJlwDC3FGh4mzhomWIHgg7Sk3CqVrowHrvAlDamI9m5HOkO5DILuEIxyW1MoBSTFA46wFgzdamxMvdkeqKXeM= Received: by 10.38.11.2 with SMTP id 2mr491741rnk; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:16:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.209.70 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:16:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3b793f1a04122120163977048b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:16:03 -0500 From: Kero-Chan To: RL In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041222035615.GA10180@gamerasmog.com> <1103688155.7511.11.camel@server1> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Kero-Chan List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:16:05 -0000 On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:06:06 -0500, RL wrote: > So I guess my only option *if* I wanted to do this was to buy a > business class DSL service that offers a static IP? You still won't be able to do reverse dns with that (unless your ISP delegates the IP (block) to you (the only I know of that offers this is demon.co.uk)). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 04:16:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA92F16A4D2 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:16:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8750243D1F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:16:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE46560E2; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:16:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26096-01; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:16:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A1460CD; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:16:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41C8F51D.9080604@makeworld.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:16:29 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041218) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Knobbe References: <20041222035615.GA10180@gamerasmog.com> <1103688155.7511.11.camel@server1> <1103688595.7511.17.camel@server1> In-Reply-To: <1103688595.7511.17.camel@server1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.0 (20041102) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: RL cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:16:12 -0000 Frank Knobbe wrote: > On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 23:04 -0500, RL wrote: > >>So I guess my only option *if* I wanted to do this was to buy a >>business class DSL service that offers a static IP? > > > Or find someone with public name servers that is willing to pull zones > from your name server. Your domains then reference those 3rd party name > servers, but not your own. But since those 3rd party name servers pull > zones from your box, you are still in control of your zones as far as > configuration of zone information is concerned. > > Regards, > Frank I can't see how that will work. If an IP block say belongs to Verizon, THEY are authoritive. You just can't "steal" stuff and have it resolve both ways. I dunno - maybe my understanding of DNS is wrong - but it just can't and dont work that way if you want a responce from some domain 1/2 way around the world. -- Best regards, Chris It's tough to get reallocated when you're the one who's redundant. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 04:21:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340E516A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:21:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.praemunio.com (mail.praemunio.com [66.179.47.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CB5C043D2D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:21:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@knobbe.us) Received: from localhost (HELO mail.knobbe.us) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 22:21:52 -0600 Received: from server1.home.knobbe.us by firewall1.home.knobbe.us with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 22:21:51 -0600 Received: from localhost by localhost with SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 22:21:50 -0600 From: Frank Knobbe To: Chris In-Reply-To: <41C8F51D.9080604@makeworld.com> References: <20041222035615.GA10180@gamerasmog.com> <1103688155.7511.11.camel@server1> <1103688595.7511.17.camel@server1> <41C8F51D.9080604@makeworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:21:49 -0600 Message-Id: <1103689309.7511.23.camel@server1> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: RL cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:21:53 -0000 On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 22:16 -0600, Chris wrote: > > Or find someone with public name servers that is willing to pull zones > > from your name server. Your domains then reference those 3rd party name > > servers, but not your own. But since those 3rd party name servers pull > > zones from your box, you are still in control of your zones as far as > > configuration of zone information is concerned. > I can't see how that will work. If an IP block say belongs to Verizon, > THEY are authoritive. You just can't "steal" stuff and have it resolve > both ways. For reverse DNS, that is correct. You still won't be able to do reverse DNS. However, forward DNS works just fine. I have a friend for example that administrates his own zone files for the two domains he owns. My primary name server pulls that info from his box, and my secondaries will pull it from my primary. His domains all reference my name servers. That way the domains use stable name servers, but he is still able to make changes (i.e. new CNAME and A records) without my involvement. Again, this is only for forward resolution. Reverse resolution has always to be delegated by the IP block owner to a stable name server within that block. I'm not aware of any ISP who would delegate reverse resolution to an address outside of their control. Cheers, Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 04:23:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D37A16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:23:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from extacy.homeip.net (extacy.homeip.net [67.62.48.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D791943D54 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:23:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Niy@extacy.homeip.net) Received: (qmail 91268 invoked by uid 89); 22 Dec 2004 04:28:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.10?) (Niy@extacy.homeip.net@192.168.0.10) by extacy.homeip.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 04:28:00 -0000 Message-ID: <41C8F742.1010903@extacy.homeip.net> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:25:38 -0500 From: Tim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041109 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joshua Tinnin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041222035615.GA10180@gamerasmog.com> <20041222041444.GB10180@gamerasmog.com> In-Reply-To: <20041222041444.GB10180@gamerasmog.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:23:27 -0000 Joshua Tinnin wrote: >On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 10:59:51PM -0500, RL wrote: > > >>On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:56:15 -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote: >> >> >>>On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 10:24:17PM -0500, RL wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Hi. I currently have a cable modem, but I want to (if it's not too >>>>pricey) run my own servers including DNS server. My cable provider >>>>currently doesn't offer static IPs so I have a dynamic. How would I >>>>go about setting up my own DNS? Would I do it through the cable modem? >>>>Wouldn't I have to buy an IP block and be the authority for it? I'm a >>>>little lost. :) >>>> >>>> >>>You will have problems doing this unless you have a static IP. I don't >>>think any cable service offers that. You can run a DNS server on an >>>internal network in your case. It's also possible to run a dynamic IP >>>resolver service, like No-IP's (dns/noip), but that is far from perfect, >>>unless you're just doing this for testing. For any real-world purpose, >>>you really have to have a static IP and a fully-qualified hostname. I >>>have read of people running their own servers for everyday use using >>>something like No-IP, but if you're running a mail server, you will most >>>likely have to deal with mail being rejected because of blacklisting >>>(many ISPs block all major ISPs' dynamic blocks from sending to their >>>mail servers to prevent spam), as well as reverse dns problems. It can >>>work alright for a small website server setup for fun or testing, or >>>something that won't require complicated network protocols. >>> >>> >>I just called my cable modem ISP (adelphia) and they said a static IP >>address is $130 per month!!!!!! Forget that! Now what are my other >>options? I do have a dynDNS address for my dynamic IP, but I can't run >>a DNS server and do reverse DNS with that. :( >> >> > >Well, that's news to me. I guess it was just a matter of time before >cable providers started offering static IP. Even so, you're probably >best off shopping around a bit, although you most likely won't find >anything that's $40/mo., but who knows? One advantage of going with a >smaller provider with a good reputation is that your IP won't be >blacklisted (or there is much less likelihood of it). One problem with >so many people running servers these days is that you don't know who to >trust, so whole IP blocks of major ISPs end up being blacklisted, and >not just the dynamic blocks, but this is more likely to happen if the >ISP is careless about spam. If you're going to go through with it and >spend the extra money, make sure to do some research and get a good IP >with a reputable company. > >As for other options, you're kinda stuck with the problems of reverse >dns, except if your IP isn't released for a long time, but then you're >sort of gambling. Anyway, it's kind of a drag, I remember a time not >long ago when static IPs with shell accounts on dialup were cheap, but >now that so many people have broadband, you really have to pony up a bit >of extra cash to get your IP out of the swamp of IP blocks full of >zombied machines. But you can always do some testing on your own to see >what would work for you. > >- jt >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Just as an FYI, my provider (Cavtel) gives me DSL w/ a static IP, no PPPoE crap, AND they'll set a reverse DNS for you. Also, they don't really have much of an accepted use policy. I chatted with the phone tech (VERY knowledgeable, i was quite surprised to find) for about a half an hour when I called in to get my reverse DNS lookup setup. He was a linux user, and was considering switching to FBSD. At the end of our talk, he said to look for him in the FBSD mailing lists, since he'd probably be switching. So, if you're out there... HI! And thanks. Just my two cents... but options are definately out there. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 04:24:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A6E16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:24:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from newalpha.avalonworks.net (newalpha.avalonworks.net [216.58.97.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7CAF43D45 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:24:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hindrich@worldchat.com) Received: from Brantford-ppp108076.sympatico.ca (Brantford-ppp108076.sympatico.ca [216.209.108.23])iBM4OdhG067212 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:24:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hindrich@worldchat.com) From: Peterhin To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:24:48 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412212324.48356.hindrich@worldchat.com> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/633/Thu Dec 16 20:56:33 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on newalpha.avalonworks.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Newbie X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:24:42 -0000 Good Day, I have been browsing the FreeBSD site, and am now wondering if someone could help with a simple question. I have been using GNULinux for about 1 1/2 years, and am happy with it, however, I am finding that slowly it is starting to get like the other OS's. All I am interested in is a really secure, and paired down system that can get me onto the net, and e-mail, without all the eye candy. I also an interested in learning the Unix system. Having said that could you please tell me, why I would learn (Pure) Unix over Linux.? -- Peter "Peace is never more than one thought away" GNU/Linux Freedom http://libranet.com http://www.fsf.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 04:26:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C86516A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:26:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89D043D48 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:26:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB5160E2; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:26:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26173-01; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:26:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6FA60CD; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:26:38 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41C8F794.2050309@makeworld.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:27:00 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041218) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Knobbe References: <20041222035615.GA10180@gamerasmog.com> <1103688155.7511.11.camel@server1> <1103688595.7511.17.camel@server1> <41C8F51D.9080604@makeworld.com> <1103689309.7511.23.camel@server1> In-Reply-To: <1103689309.7511.23.camel@server1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.0 (20041102) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: RL cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:26:43 -0000 Frank Knobbe wrote: > On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 22:16 -0600, Chris wrote: > >>>Or find someone with public name servers that is willing to pull zones >>>from your name server. Your domains then reference those 3rd party name >>>servers, but not your own. But since those 3rd party name servers pull >>>zones from your box, you are still in control of your zones as far as >>>configuration of zone information is concerned. > > >>I can't see how that will work. If an IP block say belongs to Verizon, >>THEY are authoritive. You just can't "steal" stuff and have it resolve >>both ways. > > > For reverse DNS, that is correct. You still won't be able to do reverse > DNS. However, forward DNS works just fine. > > I have a friend for example that administrates his own zone files for > the two domains he owns. My primary name server pulls that info from his > box, and my secondaries will pull it from my primary. His domains all > reference my name servers. That way the domains use stable name servers, > but he is still able to make changes (i.e. new CNAME and A records) > without my involvement. > > Again, this is only for forward resolution. Reverse resolution has > always to be delegated by the IP block owner to a stable name server > within that block. I'm not aware of any ISP who would delegate reverse > resolution to an address outside of their control. > > Cheers, > Frank Agreed - this will work for him. Along with DynDNS. In any event, he'll run into other issues if he runs a mail server (we won't get into that). The real answer here is this - have the user register a domain. have the ISP in question host it - then the ISP will do the reverse DNS for him. That's the easiest way I would think if the objective is reverse. If not - then it's moot. -- Best regards, Chris No matter how strong the breeze when you leave the dock once you have reached the furthest point from port the wind will die. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 04:29:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9116616A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:29:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp802.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp802.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3AAC243D31 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:29:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamera@pacbell.net) Received: from unknown (HELO gamerasmog.com) (gamera@pacbell.net@64.173.26.30 with login) by smtp802.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 04:29:36 -0000 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:29:31 -0800 From: Joshua Tinnin To: Frank Knobbe Message-ID: <20041222042930.GC10180@gamerasmog.com> References: <20041222035615.GA10180@gamerasmog.com> <1103688155.7511.11.camel@server1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1103688155.7511.11.camel@server1> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: RL cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:29:36 -0000 On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 10:02:35PM -0600, Frank Knobbe wrote: > On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 22:59 -0500, RL wrote: > > I just called my cable modem ISP (adelphia) and they said a static IP > > address is $130 per month!!!!!! Forget that! Now what are my other > > options? I do have a dynDNS address for my dynamic IP, but I can't run > > a DNS server and do reverse DNS with that. :( > > Without your ISPs assistance, you wouldn't be able to run reverse DNS > anyway. Forward DNS on dynamic IP's is tricky as you have to > re-register/change your name servers IP address with your domain name > provider every time you get a new address. Yes, but many professional ISPs specialize in customers who want to run their own servers. A smaller ISP in my area will do rDNS for "home" and "pro" users, so if you're paying for a static IP, they assume you will need rDNS. However, their lower tiers don't have as much speed and would only be practical for small setups, but they start at around $60/mo. Many other small ISPs in my area will do this, but I live in a large metro area. But you can usually find something cheaper than $130, and with a company that will handle rDNS for you. > DynDNS for SMPT is doable, but forget DNS. I guess it's doable, but it wouldn't really work well for my needs. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 04:49:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A2AC16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:49:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outside.taborandtashell.net (sub18-33.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.18.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C334943D2F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:48:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net) Received: (qmail 93209 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2004 20:48:21 -0800 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.9?) (tkelly@192.168.0.9) by 192.168.0.2 with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 21 Dec 2004 20:48:21 -0800 Message-ID: <41C8FC80.1010908@taborandtashell.net> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:48:00 -0800 From: Tabor Kelly User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041112) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: general portinstall question about port names X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:49:03 -0000 Hello, I have a general question about how portinstall decides what port to install. When type "portinstall openoffice", portinstall asks me which of the 4 openoffice ports I would like to install. When I type "portinstall gimp", portinstall installs graphics/gimp1. Why not graphics/gimp, or ask me like it did for OpenOffice? Thank You, Tabor Kelly From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 04:49:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E3E16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:49:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F239B43D2F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:49:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from [192.168.214.215] (c-24-1-210-118.client.comcast.net[24.1.210.118]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2004122204490101100b0jf5e>; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:49:01 +0000 Message-ID: <41C8FCA5.4000701@computer.org> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:48:37 -0600 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041208) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Trouble with TEAC usb floppy (FD-05PUB).... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:49:04 -0000 I previously posted this to FreeBSD-usb@ ... but no response. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. TIA -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Trouble with TEAC usb floppy (FD-05PUB)... Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:48:39 -0600 From: Eric Schuele To: freeBSD-USB@freebsd.org Hello, I'm having trouble with my TEAC (FD-05PUB) USB Floppy in 5.3-STABLE i386 on a Dell Inspiron 5100. My problem appears to be that which is described in the following post(s): http://news.gw.com/freebsd.ia64/348 http://news.gw.com/freebsd.ia64/347 I was wondering if a fix had ever been developed. I have cvsup'd RELENG_5 on Dec 19 2004, and the problem still persists. To summarize.. I see things like this in dmesg umass0: TEAC TEAC FD-05PUB, rev 2.00/0.00, addr 2 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 1.000MB/s transfers da0: 1MB (2880 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 1C) umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status == 0x0 umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status == 0x0 umass0: Unsupported UFI command 0x35 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x6, scsi status == 0x0 ... and ... da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 1.000MB/s transfers da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ CAPACITY. CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Medium not present (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Unretryable error Opened disk da0 -> 6 Can mount the disk, ls the contents, but otherwise its useless. Page fault when umounting and/or if I remove device before umounting. I have a kernel configuration including usb, da, ohci, uhci as per a post I found (was there by default). It was working in 5.2.1-RELEASE... maybe in 5.3-BETA7 (I think). But appears broken now. It behaves this way with ACPI enabled and disabled. I've googled, read the manual, searched the PRs, read UPDATING, etc, etc... can't find the fix. If I've missed it could someone please point me in the right direction. -- Regards, Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 05:01:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E1816A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:01:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7250043D49 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:01:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net (unverified [24.119.123.89]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 5121031 for multiple; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:01:58 -0700 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:00:45 -0600 From: Vulpes Velox To: jsha , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041221230045.506043d9@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> In-Reply-To: <20041221171238.GA23640@ninja.terrabionic.com> References: <20041221092025.GA21943@ninja.terrabionic.com> <20041221102737.433b11cb@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> <20041221171238.GA23640@ninja.terrabionic.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Subject: Re: FreeBSD just won't boot! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:01:43 -0000 On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:12:38 +0100 jsha wrote: > > Hello. > > > How is it failing? > > It reboots in an infinite loop. > I've tried almost every option the BIOS can offer me, like disabling > ACPI/APIC and DMA ... but to no good. I do not see any UNIX option > in it, even though it at one point told me that I would. Hiya! More info would really be useful here. Like how is it failing... yes it is rebooting, but what do see before it reboots and ect... when is it rebooting... what hardware... It rebooting like it can be caused by many things. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 05:05:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B877D16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:05:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE4C43D46 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:05:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from conover@rahul.net) Received: from green.rahul.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 85F30BE8C9 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:05:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23736 invoked by uid 4199); 22 Dec 2004 05:03:53 -0000 Date: 22 Dec 2004 05:03:53 -0000 Message-ID: <20041222050353.23735.qmail@rahul.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: conover@rahul.net (John Conover) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: how to mount a USB pen drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Conover List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:05:19 -0000 I plug in a USB pen drive, and dmesg says: umass0: Fujifilm USB Drive, rev 2.00/2.00, addr 2 GEOM: create disk da1 dp=0xc20d3850 da1 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da1: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da1: 1.000MB/s transfers da1: 62MB (127840 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 62C) How do I mount the USB pen drive? (It hasn't been formatted, and I assume its MSDOS formatted since it was used on Win98.) Thanks, John -- John Conover, conover@rahul.net, http://www.johncon.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 05:11:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA69816A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:11:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from safeco.hostingservice.net (safeco.hostingservice.net [209.150.128.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F1F43D39 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:11:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adam@jamradar.com) Received: from PANASONIULSWMR (c-67-176-199-73.client.comcast.net [67.176.199.73])iBM5Bf722704 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:11:41 -0600 Message-ID: <004501c4e7e4$b85ed940$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> From: "Adam" To: Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:11:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: cvs-supfile? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:11:43 -0000 My cvs-supifle look like *default host=cvsup1.us.freebsd.org *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default prefix=/usr *default tag=RELENG_5_3 *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress I just want core security updates to FreeBSD and no new ports. Will this just update the FreeBSD operating systems? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 05:13:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93D916A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:13:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.mi.celestial.com (dagney.celestial.com [192.136.111.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316EA43D2D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:13:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: by mail.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 9A6CD11E8A6; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:13:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:13:15 -0800 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041222051315.GA66352@alexis.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1103680952.33623.2.camel@chaucer> <16840.55078.815394.941348@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <1103685781.33623.9.camel@chaucer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1103685781.33623.9.camel@chaucer> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Copying a directory hierarchy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:13:19 -0000 On Tue, Dec 21, 2004, Mike Jeays wrote: >On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 21:08, Robert Huff wrote: >> Mike Jeays writes: >> >> > How does on copy a complete directory hierarchy, including any hidden >> > files? >> > >> > "cp -rp" leaves them out. >> >> cp -rp * >> cp -rp .* ... >This doesn't copy hidden files in lower-level directories, only in the >top level. Thanks for the suggestion - a good idea that doesn't quite >do it. My usual incantation is: find . -print | cpio -pdumva $destdir Or if I know there's significant overlap rsync -varP ./ $destdir Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ To say that UNIX is doomed is pretty rabid, OS/2 will certainly play a role, but you don't build a hundred million instructions per second multiprocessor micro and then try to run it on OS/2. I mean, get serious. -- William Zachmann, International Data Corp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 05:13:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E69416A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:13:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53601.mail.yahoo.com (web53601.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 83DA143D53 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:13:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scott@sremick.net) Received: (qmail 71856 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Dec 2004 05:13:48 -0000 Message-ID: <20041222051348.71854.qmail@web53601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.171.193.20] by web53601.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:13:47 PST X-RocketYMMF: siremick Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:13:47 -0800 (PST) From: "Scott I. Remick" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Hang on install of 5.3 on old Presario X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: scott@sremick.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:13:49 -0000 I'm trying to breathe some life into some old hardware by giving it a task of a server. I've burnt the full 5.3 ISO to CD. I can get it to read the CD fine and start to boot. I get as far as the "Welcome to FreeBSD" menu (with the ASCII daemon). No matter what option I choose, the bar then spins for a moment and then the computer hangs. I've tried upgrading the BIOS to the latest offered from Compaq's website (although it's dated 1998). I've turned off PnP, and all unneeded ports (including serial, parallel, USB). I've tried both the "DOS" and "Other" setting for the HDD geometry. I've turned off all power-saving. Nothing seems to work. I've also tried using the 3 floppies... same problem. This is a Compaq Presario 4505 which won't be GUI. I'm trying to get my dad into FreeBSD, Apache, PHP, and so on. This was a machine he came up with for me to set up for him so he can screw around. It should work, since I've used a 486 as a web server before. Any ideas? Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 05:15:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D566D16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:15:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C77043D39 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:15:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamera@pacbell.net) Received: from unknown (HELO gamerasmog.com) (gamera@pacbell.net@64.173.26.30 with login) by smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 05:15:04 -0000 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:14:59 -0800 From: Joshua Tinnin To: Peterhin Message-ID: <20041222051458.GD10180@gamerasmog.com> References: <200412212324.48356.hindrich@worldchat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200412212324.48356.hindrich@worldchat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Newbie X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:15:07 -0000 On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 11:24:48PM -0500, Peterhin wrote: > Good Day, > > I have been browsing the FreeBSD site, and am now wondering if someone could > help with a simple question. > I have been using GNULinux for about 1 1/2 years, and am happy with it, > however, I am finding that slowly it is starting to get like the other OS's. > All I am interested in is a really secure, and paired down system that can get > me onto the net, and e-mail, without all the eye candy. I also an interested > in learning the Unix system. Having said that could you please tell me, why I > would learn (Pure) Unix over Linux.? Probably the best comparison between FreeBSD and Linux I've read is here: http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php It's written by a *BSD enthusiast, but it's a fair comparison. BTW, it's a good idea to wrap your text at 78 characters or less - most people here seem to prefer 72, because that's a workable width for 80 column consoles - that's how I'm reading my email right now. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 05:23:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BDC16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:23:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp806.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp806.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A240343D60 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:23:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamera@pacbell.net) Received: from unknown (HELO gamerasmog.com) (gamera@pacbell.net@64.173.26.30 with login) by smtp806.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 05:23:31 -0000 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:23:25 -0800 From: Joshua Tinnin To: Adam Message-ID: <20041222052325.GE10180@gamerasmog.com> References: <004501c4e7e4$b85ed940$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <004501c4e7e4$b85ed940$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs-supfile? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:23:31 -0000 On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 11:11:35PM -0600, Adam wrote: > My cvs-supifle look like > > *default host=cvsup1.us.freebsd.org > *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup > *default prefix=/usr > *default tag=RELENG_5_3 > *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress > > I just want core security updates to FreeBSD and no new ports. Will this > just update the FreeBSD operating systems? Yes, as long as you don't have ports selected, like if you had ports-all in the same file with that tag, you'd end up deleting your ports tree, because the ports collection doesn't use the same tag. BTW, if you update ports with cvsup, it will just update the Makefiles and patches, not the actual ports installed as packages on your system. You might have known that, but thought it would be worth mentioning. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 05:25:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5C116A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:25:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from stjohn.ac.th (ns.stjohn.ac.th [202.21.144.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C071D43D39 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:25:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mcrogerm@stjohn.ac.th) Received: from tulip.stjohn.ac.th [203.151.134.104] by stjohn.ac.th with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.14) id A52B66F0084; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:24:59 +0700 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20041222121229.00a25a00@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: stjohn.stjohn.ac.th:mcrogerm@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:24:59 +0700 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Roger Merritt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-68B81540 Subject: Transferring directories over a network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:25:02 -0000 I hope this isn't too common a question. I couldn't devise a good set of keywords to use Google. I just received a new machine to replace my ancient server/gateway. I decided the best way to go was to install FreeBSD 5.3, and transfer user directories and config files using ssh over the intranet. Of course, I overlooked the fact that you can't login to root. From the old machine, Kepler, I used the command line: 'tar cf - /usr/home/onedirectory /usr/home/anotherdirectory | ssh myname@russell tar xf -' Of course the user 'myname' doesn't have write permission in /usr/home. I usually use 'ssh' to login and then 'su -', but I don't see how to do that in this situation. On my old 4.3 machine a workaround was to login as 'toor', but 5.3 doesn't seem to allow that (Good Idea (tm)). I'm lucky enough I have room enough on the old hard drive that I can tar the directories there, use 'scp' to transfer them to the account on the new machine, and then go untar them there, but if anyone can suggest a more elegant (that is, easier) solution I'd appreciate it because I'm going to have to go through the whole exercise again when I move the old machine to replace an even older and more decrepit box. -- Roger -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release Date: 12/21/04 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 05:33:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F8CF16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:33:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175C543D48 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:33:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) iBM5XMv53719; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:33:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Alvaro Rosales" , Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:33:22 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: How to read Serial Port data X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:33:25 -0000 What kind of program are you trying to write? If it's a C program then forget it - you should know how to do this simple of a task before attempting to write this. I suggest you do some digging on the Internet and look for some Perl modules that control the serial port for you, and write the program in Perl. Examples abound already, just use a search engine. Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Alvaro Rosales > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 1:44 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: How to read Serial Port data > > > Hi guys, > I am trying to write a program to control my Alcatel telephonic > central, this device has a serial interfase that can be connected to > a computer serial port, I want to read all the data that the alcatel > device is sendind to my serial port > Can you tell me how can I redirect all the data that comes trough my > serial port to a file in FreeBSD?. > thanks in advance > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 05:34:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CCA416A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:34:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from safeco.hostingservice.net (safeco.hostingservice.net [209.150.128.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A0743D5A for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:34:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adam@jamradar.com) Received: from PANASONIULSWMR (c-67-176-199-73.client.comcast.net [67.176.199.73])iBM5YA728898; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:34:10 -0600 Message-ID: <004d01c4e7e7$dc4fb790$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> From: "Adam" To: "Joshua Tinnin" References: <004501c4e7e4$b85ed940$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> <20041222052325.GE10180@gamerasmog.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:33:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs-supfile? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:34:15 -0000 > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 11:11:35PM -0600, Adam wrote: > > My cvs-supifle look like > > > > *default host=cvsup1.us.freebsd.org > > *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup > > *default prefix=/usr > > *default tag=RELENG_5_3 > > *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress > > > > I just want core security updates to FreeBSD and no new ports. Will this > > just update the FreeBSD operating systems? > > Yes, as long as you don't have ports selected, like if you had ports-all > in the same file with that tag, you'd end up deleting your ports tree, > because the ports collection doesn't use the same tag. BTW, if you update > ports with cvsup, it will just update the Makefiles and patches, not the > actual ports installed as packages on your system. You might have known > that, but thought it would be worth mentioning. > > - jt I didn't know, how would I change it so it would also update with patches and makefiles? *default host=cvsup1.us.freebsd.org *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default prefix=/usr *default tag=RELENG_5_3 *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 05:36:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C1716A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:36:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 322B343D31 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:36:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) iBM5aKv53750; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:36:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Roger Merritt" , Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:36:20 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20041222121229.00a25a00@127.0.0.1> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Transferring directories over a network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:36:27 -0000 Easiest way would be to simply turn on NFS and mount the old server on a directory on the new server, then use tar or cpio or cp or whatever you want. Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Roger Merritt > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 9:25 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Transferring directories over a network > > > I hope this isn't too common a question. I couldn't devise a good set of > keywords to use Google. > > I just received a new machine to replace my ancient server/gateway. I > decided the best way to go was to install FreeBSD 5.3, and transfer user > directories and config files using ssh over the intranet. Of course, I > overlooked the fact that you can't login to root. From the old machine, > Kepler, I used the command line: > > 'tar cf - /usr/home/onedirectory /usr/home/anotherdirectory | ssh > myname@russell tar xf -' > > Of course the user 'myname' doesn't have write permission in /usr/home. I > usually use 'ssh' to login and then 'su -', but I don't see how > to do that > in this situation. On my old 4.3 machine a workaround was to login as > 'toor', but 5.3 doesn't seem to allow that (Good Idea (tm)). > > I'm lucky enough I have room enough on the old hard drive that I can tar > the directories there, use 'scp' to transfer them to the account > on the new > machine, and then go untar them there, but if anyone can suggest a more > elegant (that is, easier) solution I'd appreciate it because I'm going to > have to go through the whole exercise again when I move the old > machine to > replace an even older and more decrepit box. > > -- > Roger > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release Date: 12/21/04 > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 05:44:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1FD316A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:44:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A94243D2D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:44:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A116756433; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:44:52 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:44:52 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: Roger Merritt Message-ID: <20041222054452.GB3156@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20041222121229.00a25a00@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20041222121229.00a25a00@127.0.0.1> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Transferring directories over a network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:44:54 -0000 On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 12:24:59PM +0700, Roger Merritt wrote: > I hope this isn't too common a question. I couldn't devise a good set of > keywords to use Google. > > I just received a new machine to replace my ancient server/gateway. I > decided the best way to go was to install FreeBSD 5.3, and transfer user > directories and config files using ssh over the intranet. Of course, I > overlooked the fact that you can't login to root. Here's a thought: if it's only going to be in your internal network, why not enable PermitRootLogin under sshd until you get the files across. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Only the meek get pinched. The bold survive." - Ferris Bueller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 05:46:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E86716A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:46:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com (cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com [204.174.223.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB54C43D2F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:46:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from comm@rwx.ca) Received: from dean (S0106000ea67c0d69.vc.shawcable.net [24.80.111.64]) by cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5EDEB14 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:46:22 -0800 (PST) From: "comm" To: Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:51:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcTn6jmoKA9BLNrlSZayiUxzlPvWtA== Message-Id: <20041222054622.2D5EDEB14@cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com> Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:46:23 -0000 Hello, I have recently installed a SCSI tape drive in my FBSD box: Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle sa0 at sym0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15) I then tried to actually put some files on the tape using tar and had the following message in 'demsg': Dec 21 10:38:11 taco kernel: (sa0:sym0:0:6:0): lost device Dec 21 10:38:11 taco kernel: (sa0:sym0:0:6:0): failed to write terminating filemark(s) Dec 21 10:38:12 taco kernel: (sa0:sym0:0:6:0): tape is now frozen- use an OFFLINE, REWIND or MTEOM command to clear this state. Dec 21 10:38:12 taco kernel: (sa0:sym0:0:6:0): removing device entry I have no clue how to add the device entry again, I tried rebooting the box. I even tried some commands with 'devfs'... and got no where. Any ideas... Thanks. ====== -comm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 05:48:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070C116A4D1 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:48:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C76FE43D39 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:48:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from donp@mindspring.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.16.1.34?) (tungten@sbcglobal.net@69.111.111.187 with plain) by smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 05:48:13 -0000 Message-ID: <41C90AA7.5050508@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:48:23 -0800 From: Donald Perkovich User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: No Gnome Text X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:48:14 -0000 I am running 5.2-RELEASE and use Gnome as my desktop environment. A few weeks ago I started it up from startx and none of the gnome applications had any text. It appears that the fonts are all zero width. The menus are there, thie icons are there, but no text. Applications that aren't gnome apps display text normally. For example gEdit has no text in its menus, but NEdit looks normal. I cannot find any indication of any error messages from X. Its logs look OK. I tried upgrading from 2.4 to 2.6. I installed KDE and its looks fine, but gnome applications (like gEdit or Eclipse built with gtk+) have no text. I cannot find any indication of where the problem is. What is the problem and how can I fix it? Thanks, Donald Perkovich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 06:08:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5B716A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:08:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B7FA243D55 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:08:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamera@pacbell.net) Received: from unknown (HELO gamerasmog.com) (gamera@pacbell.net@64.173.26.30 with login) by smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 06:08:36 -0000 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:08:30 -0800 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041222060830.GG10180@gamerasmog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: adam@jamradar.com Subject: Re: cvs-supfile? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:08:37 -0000 --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Whoops, forgot to send this to the list ... - jt --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:01:16 -0800 From: Joshua Tinnin To: Adam Subject: Re: cvs-supfile? Message-ID: <20041222060116.GF10180@gamerasmog.com> References: <004501c4e7e4$b85ed940$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> <20041222052325.GE10180@gamerasmog.com> <004d01c4e7e7$dc4fb790$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <004d01c4e7e7$dc4fb790$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 11:33:57PM -0600, Adam wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 11:11:35PM -0600, Adam wrote: > > > My cvs-supifle look like > > > > > > *default host=cvsup1.us.freebsd.org > > > *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup > > > *default prefix=/usr > > > *default tag=RELENG_5_3 > > > *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress > > > > > > I just want core security updates to FreeBSD and no new ports. Will > this > > > just update the FreeBSD operating systems? > > > > Yes, as long as you don't have ports selected, like if you had ports-all > > in the same file with that tag, you'd end up deleting your ports tree, > > because the ports collection doesn't use the same tag. BTW, if you update > > ports with cvsup, it will just update the Makefiles and patches, not the > > actual ports installed as packages on your system. You might have known > > that, but thought it would be worth mentioning. > > I didn't know, how would I change it so it would also update with patches > and makefiles? > > *default host=cvsup1.us.freebsd.org > *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup > *default prefix=/usr > *default tag=RELENG_5_3 > *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress If you want to update your ports tree at the same time as the source, put this in the file: ports-all tag=. ports-all You should also have: src-all in the file in order to download all the source for FreeBSD. Just to clarify, ports-all will download all changes to the ports tree, or it will put it on your /usr/ports directory if it's not there yet, and src-all will download all the source for the FreeBSD OS you specify in the tag, or changes to it if it's already there. After you have downloaded changes to the ports tree, you have to make or fetch a new INDEX in oder to use it to install or upgrade ports. The simplest way to do this is to issue these commands as root: cd /usr/ports && make fetchindex && portsdb -u Much of this is also explained in the handbook, which is an excellent resource. You might also want to look into portupgrade and related tools. A good tutorial is here: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html - jt --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 06:26:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8832E16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:26:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A698B43D3F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:26:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bees.msu@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so188432rne for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:26:18 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=La7Hx1Zai9rCvykI9+osLC65/5qTcVzTV9Fgu7HRvZ//2kiHbntEHbhw5dBIW01DCQdAaIr58avGI9dw3zKHfc5UR9s/Hacc9CqCliOJCyNQuoR7Us0LWQstlNhEmhr3qgrg5TQesv4lFq1PT2i0KDU4eq13SV+74G/lUC+h5qQ= Received: by 10.38.151.29 with SMTP id y29mr232934rnd; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:26:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.12.78 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:26:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:26:17 -0500 From: Zachary Huang To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: upgrading from 4.2 to 4.10, succeeded, but still boots 4.2! Help!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Zachary Huang List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:26:19 -0000 OK, my old questions might be too simple and I did not get much help from here. My old system was 4.2 and I was trying to upgrade to 4.10. (hardware: K2-6 350 MHz with 384 meg and 20 gig) here is what I managed to do: 1). cvsup to RELENG_4_10 here is the supfile *default host=ftp5.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/home/ncvs *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_10 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all ports-all which seemed to be successful (did not see the final message because too many spams filling on my screen, but it was going for a good 30 min -- could it have stopped in the middle?) -- how do I stop the rejected spams showing on the console? very annoying. 2). then I proceeded to follow the book: make buildworld (config MYKERNEL --this was not in the book)**this should not mess things up? make buildkernel KERNEL=MYkernel make installkernel KERNEL=MYkernel reboot (in single user) [1] make installworld mergemaster reboot no error messages doing all the above steps. 3). I noticed that after reboot the machine was still showing: cyber# dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the Uni versity of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #1: Thu Dec 16 08:53:22 EST 2004 4). So I recompiled the kernel by doing: cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf /usr/sbin/config Mykernel /cd ../../compile/Mykernel make depend make make install 5). after reboot, I still see the same "4.2. RELEASE! 6). indeed. all the files in /usr/src seems to be the same as before updating... -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4735 Sep 5 1999 COPYRIGHT drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Sep 11 2001 CVS -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 7257 Nov 7 2000 Makefile -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 24600 Nov 11 2000 Makefile.inc1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 9761 Aug 27 1999 Makefile.upgrade -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2642 Oct 27 2000 README -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 30679 Nov 16 2000 UPDATING drwxr-xr-x 32 root wheel 512 Sep 11 2001 bin drwxr-xr-x 40 root wheel 1024 Sep 11 2001 contrib drwxr-xr-x 7 root wheel 512 Dec 19 05:05 crypto drwxr-xr-x 14 root wheel 1536 Sep 11 2001 etc drwxr-xr-x 41 root wheel 1024 Sep 11 2001 games drwxr-xr-x 7 root wheel 512 Sep 11 2001 gnu drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 1536 Sep 11 2001 include drwxr-xr-x 7 root wheel 512 Dec 19 05:05 kerberos5 drwxr-xr-x 8 root wheel 512 Dec 19 05:05 kerberosIV drwxr-xr-x 55 root wheel 1024 Sep 11 2001 lib drwxr-xr-x 33 root wheel 1024 Sep 11 2001 libexec drwxr-xr-x 8 root wheel 512 Sep 11 2001 release drwxr-xr-x 74 root wheel 1536 Sep 11 2001 sbin drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 512 Dec 19 05:05 secure drwxr-xr-x 20 root wheel 512 Sep 11 2001 share drwxr-xr-x 46 root wheel 1024 Sep 11 2001 sys drwxr-xr-x 8 root wheel 512 Sep 11 2001 tools drwxr-xr-x 211 root wheel 3584 Sep 11 2001 usr.bin drwxr-xr-x 153 root wheel 3072 Sep 11 2001 usr.sbin 7). Can someone here tell me what I did wrong? I was not sure if cvsup grabbed the right source or not, but usually when I was playing the tag before, it would give me error messages if the tag was not correct. Thanks so much and happy holidays! Zach From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 06:31:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8818D16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:31:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 650AE43D41 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:31:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamera@pacbell.net) Received: from unknown (HELO gamerasmog.com) (gamera@pacbell.net@64.173.26.30 with login) by smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 06:31:25 -0000 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:31:14 -0800 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041222063114.GA11281@gamerasmog.com> References: <20041222060830.GG10180@gamerasmog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041222060830.GG10180@gamerasmog.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: adam@jamradar.com Subject: Re: cvs-supfile? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:31:25 -0000 On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 10:08:30PM -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 11:33:57PM -0600, Adam wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 11:11:35PM -0600, Adam wrote: > > > > My cvs-supifle look like > > > > > > > > *default host=cvsup1.us.freebsd.org > > > > *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup > > > > *default prefix=/usr > > > > *default tag=RELENG_5_3 > > > > *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress > > > > > > > > I just want core security updates to FreeBSD and no new ports. Will > > this > > > > just update the FreeBSD operating systems? > > > > > > Yes, as long as you don't have ports selected, like if you had ports-all > > > in the same file with that tag, you'd end up deleting your ports tree, > > > because the ports collection doesn't use the same tag. BTW, if you update > > > ports with cvsup, it will just update the Makefiles and patches, not the > > > actual ports installed as packages on your system. You might have known > > > that, but thought it would be worth mentioning. > > > > I didn't know, how would I change it so it would also update with patches > > and makefiles? > > > > *default host=cvsup1.us.freebsd.org > > *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup > > *default prefix=/usr > > *default tag=RELENG_5_3 > > *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress > > If you want to update your ports tree at the same time as the source, > put this in the file: > > ports-all tag=. > ports-all I'm sorry, actually you should just have ports-all tag=. Messed up when I was editing it. If you have both, you will probably delete the ports tree, because ports-all without a tag will use the default tag, which is for a release and not ports. Mea culpa. - jt > You should also have: > > src-all > > in the file in order to download all the source for FreeBSD. Just to > clarify, ports-all will download all changes to the ports tree, or it > will put it on your /usr/ports directory if it's not there yet, and > src-all will download all the source for the FreeBSD OS you specify in > the tag, or changes to it if it's already there. After you have > downloaded changes to the ports tree, you have to make or fetch a new > INDEX in oder to use it to install or upgrade ports. The simplest way to > do this is to issue these commands as root: > > cd /usr/ports && make fetchindex && portsdb -u > > Much of this is also explained in the handbook, which is an excellent > resource. > > You might also want to look into portupgrade and related tools. A good > tutorial is here: > http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 06:36:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F32C16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:36:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sapo.pt (relay2.ptmail.sapo.pt [212.55.154.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 74E4443D41 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:36:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamito@netual.pt) Received: (qmail 5824 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2004 06:36:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sapo.pt) (10.134.35.157) by relay2 with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 06:36:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 25740 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2004 06:36:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [10.0.0.5]) ([213.13.236.113]) (envelope-sender ) by mta7 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Dec 2004 06:36:48 -0000 Message-ID: <41C91600.3070401@netual.pt> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:36:48 +0000 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1rio_Gamito?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Brown References: <20041222031203.63420.qmail@hyperreal.org> In-Reply-To: <20041222031203.63420.qmail@hyperreal.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No latin characters :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:36:52 -0000 Hi Mike, Somehow, i did managed :) I think it was when i've set the terminals to iso-8859-1 and set LC_CTYPE. Thanks. Regards, Mrio Gamito Mike Brown wrote: > Mrio Gamito wrote: > >>Hi again, >> >>I did everything just as you told me. >>When i type a latin letter like , etc., i get a greek letter :( > > > Internally, your "" is probably byte 0xE1, as that is how it is defined by > the ISO-8859-1 character map, and I assume that it's being interpreted > correctly on the input side. If this byte is interpreted for output/display > according to another character map, then you will see some other character > that you didn't intend. For example, if it looks like "" (Latin small letter > sharp s, which is used when writing the German language), then the byte is > being interpreted according to CP437. > > If you tell us what character you get, it may help. We also need to know what > you are using for display. Anything you can tell us about your setup, and how > *we* can reproduce your results... There are so many possible points of > failure, and you have not told us enough. > > Are you using the console (using hardware text modes), or are you doing this > via an X Window session and a terminal window, or are you SSHing in and > looking at everything through a Windows or Mac OS X environment? If you're not > doing this at the console, then what SSH or terminal app are you using and how > do you have it configured? In what are you typing the non-ASCII characters -- > a shell? a text editor? Which one? All of these things make a difference. > > -Mike -- Mrio Gamito Administrao de sistemas e desenvolvimento Netual - Multimdia e Telecomunicaes, Lda. Rua Joo Afonso, N1 3800-198 Aveiro - Portugal Tel. +351 234 371 431 / Fax. +351 234 371 438 E-mail: gamito@netual.pt www.netual.pt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 06:41:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDA416A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:41:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from safeco.hostingservice.net (safeco.hostingservice.net [209.150.128.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7672643D1D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:41:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adam@jamradar.com) Received: from PANASONIULSWMR (c-67-176-199-73.client.comcast.net [67.176.199.73])iBM6frW15105 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:41:53 -0600 Message-ID: <008901c4e7f1$51ba3970$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> From: "Adam" To: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:41:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: Fw: What do these PHP ports mean? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:41:54 -0000 I'm porting PHP, I looked at the 5 different PHP 5.0.3 version descriptions on http://www.freebsd.org/ports/www.html they all have the same long description and different "Requires" What are the differences in these? php5-5.0.3_1 php5-cgi-5.0.3_1 php5-mnogosearch-5.0.3_1 php5-session-5.0.3_1 php5-tidy-5.0.3_1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 06:44:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691BB16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:44:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E3743D2F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:44:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bees.msu@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so189350rne for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:44:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KyF9i+q7qroOOwyka20GhMjLwpHOiE3hcKzLvjlM8JHFldMQEJZsexOvo6zaNMSj1tS6lO+8/LjBfKnRWa8TAA56sd++FDFrFoYabLX0hBOEN4o72jjBGrczm0UAQnIZtb+qHw0uESbb2VjdJU/sGEokw7uRv3JF06Bymws2iSo= Received: by 10.38.72.69 with SMTP id u69mr395054rna; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.12.78 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:44:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:44:03 -0500 From: Zachary Huang To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: unsuccessful upgrade from 4.2 to 4.10 through cvsup+make world X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Zachary Huang List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:44:04 -0000 the CVSUP must have worked since the directory /usr/home/ncvs has these files: 325587 bytes: cyber# ls -l -rw-r--r-- 1 root user 6355 Apr 30 2004 COPYRIGHT -rw-r--r-- 1 root user 8480 Apr 16 2003 Makefile -rw-r--r-- 1 root user 24190 May 25 2004 Makefile.inc1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root user 9761 Aug 27 1999 Makefile.upgrade -rw-r--r-- 1 root user 2699 Apr 26 2002 README -rw-r--r-- 1 root user 44963 Dec 1 16:35 UPDATING drwxr-xr-x 32 root user 512 Dec 21 20:32 bin drwxr-xr-x 46 root user 1024 Dec 21 20:44 contrib drwxr-xr-x 7 root user 512 Dec 21 20:48 crypto drwxr-xr-x 14 root user 2048 Dec 21 20:48 etc drwxr-xr-x 41 root user 1024 Dec 21 20:49 games drwxr-xr-x 6 root user 512 Dec 21 20:51 gnu drwxr-xr-x 6 root user 1536 Dec 21 20:51 include drwxr-xr-x 7 root user 512 Dec 21 20:51 kerberos5 drwxr-xr-x 8 root user 512 Dec 21 20:51 kerberosIV drwxr-xr-x 57 root user 1536 Dec 21 20:54 lib drwxr-xr-x 35 root user 1024 Dec 21 20:54 libexec drwxr-xr-x 10 root user 512 Dec 21 20:55 release drwxr-xr-x 82 root user 1536 Dec 21 20:55 sbin drwxr-xr-x 6 root user 512 Dec 21 20:55 secure drwxr-xr-x 23 root user 512 Dec 21 20:57 share drwxr-xr-x 49 root user 1024 Dec 21 21:06 sys drwxr-xr-x 8 root user 512 Dec 21 21:06 tools drwxr-xr-x 221 root user 3584 Dec 21 21:08 usr.bin drwxr-xr-x 157 root user 3072 Dec 21 21:10 usr.sbin so why were not the binary files updated? Zach From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 06:48:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116BF16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:48:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8466C43D39 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:48:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from [207.41.94.233] (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iBM6kWdP000699; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:46:33 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Zachary Huang Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:48:14 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412212248.14906.kstewart@owt.com> Subject: Re: upgrading from 4.2 to 4.10, succeeded, but still boots 4.2! Help!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:48:17 -0000 On Tuesday 21 December 2004 10:26 pm, Zachary Huang wrote: > OK, my old questions might be too simple and I did not get much help > from here. My old system was 4.2 and I was trying to upgrade to 4.10. > (hardware: K2-6 350 MHz with 384 meg and 20 gig) > > here is what I managed to do: > > 1). cvsup to RELENG_4_10 > here is the supfile > > *default host=ftp5.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/usr > *default prefix=/home/ncvs > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_10 > *default delete use-rel-suffix > src-all > ports-all > > which seemed to be successful (did not see the final message because > too many spams filling on my screen, but it was going for a good 30 > min -- could it have stopped in the middle?) -- how do I stop the > rejected spams showing on the console? very annoying. > > 2). then I proceeded to follow the book: > make buildworld > (config MYKERNEL --this was not in the book)**this should not > mess things up? > make buildkernel KERNEL=MYkernel > make installkernel KERNEL=MYkernel > reboot (in single user) [1] > make installworld > mergemaster > reboot > > no error messages doing all the above steps. > > 3). I noticed that after reboot the machine was still showing: > > cyber# dmesg > Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, > 1994 The Regents of the Uni > versity of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #1: Thu Dec 16 08:53:22 EST 2004 > > 4). So I recompiled the kernel by doing: > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > /usr/sbin/config Mykernel > /cd ../../compile/Mykernel > make depend > make > make install > > 5). after reboot, I still see the same "4.2. RELEASE! > > 6). indeed. all the files in /usr/src seems to be the same as before > updating... > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4735 Sep 5 1999 COPYRIGHT > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Sep 11 2001 CVS > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 7257 Nov 7 2000 Makefile > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 24600 Nov 11 2000 Makefile.inc1 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 9761 Aug 27 1999 Makefile.upgrade > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2642 Oct 27 2000 README > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 30679 Nov 16 2000 UPDATING > drwxr-xr-x 32 root wheel 512 Sep 11 2001 bin > drwxr-xr-x 40 root wheel 1024 Sep 11 2001 contrib > drwxr-xr-x 7 root wheel 512 Dec 19 05:05 crypto > drwxr-xr-x 14 root wheel 1536 Sep 11 2001 etc > drwxr-xr-x 41 root wheel 1024 Sep 11 2001 games > drwxr-xr-x 7 root wheel 512 Sep 11 2001 gnu > drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 1536 Sep 11 2001 include > drwxr-xr-x 7 root wheel 512 Dec 19 05:05 kerberos5 > drwxr-xr-x 8 root wheel 512 Dec 19 05:05 kerberosIV > drwxr-xr-x 55 root wheel 1024 Sep 11 2001 lib > drwxr-xr-x 33 root wheel 1024 Sep 11 2001 libexec > drwxr-xr-x 8 root wheel 512 Sep 11 2001 release > drwxr-xr-x 74 root wheel 1536 Sep 11 2001 sbin > drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 512 Dec 19 05:05 secure > drwxr-xr-x 20 root wheel 512 Sep 11 2001 share > drwxr-xr-x 46 root wheel 1024 Sep 11 2001 sys > drwxr-xr-x 8 root wheel 512 Sep 11 2001 tools > drwxr-xr-x 211 root wheel 3584 Sep 11 2001 usr.bin > drwxr-xr-x 153 root wheel 3072 Sep 11 2001 usr.sbin > > 7). Can someone here tell me what I did wrong? I was not sure if > cvsup grabbed the right source or not, but usually when I was playing > the tag before, it would give me error messages if the tag was not > correct. > I bet you have a /home/ncvs/src with all of the 4.10 stuff in it :) Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 06:49:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62EF916A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:49:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6173A43D48 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:49:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a137.otenet.gr [212.205.215.137]) iBM6nd7b004774; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:49:40 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBM6nPxS040521; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:49:26 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBM6nPHu040520; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:49:25 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:49:25 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Zachary Huang Message-ID: <20041222064925.GA40430@gothmog.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrading from 4.2 to 4.10, succeeded, but still boots 4.2! Help!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:49:44 -0000 On 2004-12-22 01:26, Zachary Huang wrote: > My old system was 4.2 and I was trying to upgrade to 4.10. > > here is what I managed to do: > > 1). cvsup to RELENG_4_10 > here is the supfile > > *default host=ftp5.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/usr > *default prefix=/home/ncvs > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_10 > *default delete use-rel-suffix > src-all > ports-all > > which seemed to be successful (did not see the final message because > too many spams filling on my screen, but it was going for a good 30 > min -- could it have stopped in the middle?) -- how do I stop the > rejected spams showing on the console? very annoying. Hint: This is probably a result of syslog sending the messages to `/dev/console', which is ttyv0 after you have booted. The way I see it, you have two options: 1. Do not login on ttyv0. 2. Redirect the syslog messages to some other vty (i.e. ttyvb) On systems where I can actually sit in front of the machine, having access to all the vtys, I usually replace /dev/console with /dev/ttyvb in syslog.conf. This still lets me read the messages by hitting ALT+F12 but doesn't clutter the terminals where I may actually login with syslog messages. Having said that, pay careful attention to the subtle difference of "base" and "prefix". If you really used _this_ supfile shown above, it seems that you have downloaded a new source tree under /home/ncvs :-) > 2). then I proceeded to follow the book: > make buildworld > (config MYKERNEL --this was not in the book)**this should not > mess things up? > make buildkernel KERNEL=MYkernel > make installkernel KERNEL=MYkernel > reboot (in single user) [1] > make installworld > mergemaster > reboot > > no error messages doing all the above steps. The `config MYKERNEL' part is redundant (not to mention error-prone, if you are not relatively familiar with the FreeBSD kernel build process). The buildkernel target handles that just fine. I noticed that you used "MYKERNEL" as the kernel config name in the first command, but "MYkernel" in the rest. Capitalization of the kernel configuration file name *does* matter. > 4). So I recompiled the kernel by doing: > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > /usr/sbin/config Mykernel > /cd ../../compile/Mykernel > make depend > make > make install Comments about capitalization of "Mykernel" apply here too. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 06:55:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E429816A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:55:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp802.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp802.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B505F43D48 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:55:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamera@pacbell.net) Received: from unknown (HELO gamerasmog.com) (gamera@pacbell.net@64.173.26.30 with login) by smtp802.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 06:55:35 -0000 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:55:29 -0800 From: Joshua Tinnin To: Zachary Huang Message-ID: <20041222065529.GB11281@gamerasmog.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrading from 4.2 to 4.10, succeeded, but still boots 4.2! Help!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:55:36 -0000 On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 01:26:17AM -0500, Zachary Huang wrote: > OK, my old questions might be too simple and I did not get much help from here. > My old system was 4.2 and I was trying to upgrade to 4.10. (hardware: > K2-6 350 MHz with 384 meg and 20 gig) > > here is what I managed to do: > > 1). cvsup to RELENG_4_10 > here is the supfile > > *default host=ftp5.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/usr > *default prefix=/home/ncvs > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_10 > *default delete use-rel-suffix > src-all > ports-all In order to update the ports tree, you have to specify a tag like ports-all tag=. Anyway ... > which seemed to be successful (did not see the final message because > too many spams filling on my screen, but it was going for a good 30 > min -- could it have stopped in the middle?) -- how do I stop the > rejected spams showing on the console? very annoying. You can configure this in /etc/syslog.conf You can also log what happened by directing output to a file, like: # cvsup -g -L 2 /path/to/supfile > /var/log/cvsup.log > 2). then I proceeded to follow the book: > make buildworld > (config MYKERNEL --this was not in the book)**this should not > mess things up? I honestly don't know. > make buildkernel KERNEL=MYkernel > make installkernel KERNEL=MYkernel That should be KERNCONF. That's important. If you get that wrong, it will compile a GENERIC kernel. As for why it didn't update, I suspect that it didn't actually update your source. Try cvsupping again, and this time log what happens. If a lot of source is changed, then you can be pretty sure you never updated it the first time. - jt > reboot (in single user) [1] > make installworld > mergemaster > reboot > > no error messages doing all the above steps. > > 3). I noticed that after reboot the machine was still showing: > > cyber# dmesg > Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the Uni > versity of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #1: Thu Dec 16 08:53:22 EST 2004 > > 4). So I recompiled the kernel by doing: > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > /usr/sbin/config Mykernel > /cd ../../compile/Mykernel > make depend > make > make install > > 5). after reboot, I still see the same "4.2. RELEASE! > > 6). indeed. all the files in /usr/src seems to be the same as before updating... > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4735 Sep 5 1999 COPYRIGHT > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Sep 11 2001 CVS > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 7257 Nov 7 2000 Makefile > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 24600 Nov 11 2000 Makefile.inc1 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 9761 Aug 27 1999 Makefile.upgrade > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2642 Oct 27 2000 README > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 30679 Nov 16 2000 UPDATING > drwxr-xr-x 32 root wheel 512 Sep 11 2001 bin > drwxr-xr-x 40 root wheel 1024 Sep 11 2001 contrib > drwxr-xr-x 7 root wheel 512 Dec 19 05:05 crypto > drwxr-xr-x 14 root wheel 1536 Sep 11 2001 etc > drwxr-xr-x 41 root wheel 1024 Sep 11 2001 games > drwxr-xr-x 7 root wheel 512 Sep 11 2001 gnu > drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 1536 Sep 11 2001 include > drwxr-xr-x 7 root wheel 512 Dec 19 05:05 kerberos5 > drwxr-xr-x 8 root wheel 512 Dec 19 05:05 kerberosIV > drwxr-xr-x 55 root wheel 1024 Sep 11 2001 lib > drwxr-xr-x 33 root wheel 1024 Sep 11 2001 libexec > drwxr-xr-x 8 root wheel 512 Sep 11 2001 release > drwxr-xr-x 74 root wheel 1536 Sep 11 2001 sbin > drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 512 Dec 19 05:05 secure > drwxr-xr-x 20 root wheel 512 Sep 11 2001 share > drwxr-xr-x 46 root wheel 1024 Sep 11 2001 sys > drwxr-xr-x 8 root wheel 512 Sep 11 2001 tools > drwxr-xr-x 211 root wheel 3584 Sep 11 2001 usr.bin > drwxr-xr-x 153 root wheel 3072 Sep 11 2001 usr.sbin > > 7). Can someone here tell me what I did wrong? I was not sure if > cvsup grabbed the right source or not, but usually when I was playing > the tag before, it would give me error messages if the tag was not > correct. > > Thanks so much and happy holidays! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 07:07:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D6716A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:07:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wrongcrowd.com (dsl231-043-085.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FBA43D49 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:07:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@wrongcrowd.com) Received: from [192.168.1.95] (port=3012 helo=tbird.wrongcrowd.com) by wrongcrowd.com with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1Ch0ZA-0006nG-2a for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:05:49 -0800 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20041221225753.0b120eb0@wrongcrowd.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:08:17 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Matt Staroscik In-Reply-To: <20041222064412.A768916A4D5@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20041222064412.A768916A4D5@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:07:57 -0000 >What's the most popular option? Is it buying a business DSL or T1 >service or is it to colocate it? All of them are pricey. :( You can get high quality residential service with a static IP for a lot less than what your cable company would charge for that one fixed IP. For example, I get 1.5/768 service from Speakeasy for $90/mo, with 2 fixed IPs. That isn't a ton of upstream, but it is enough to let me do my own web server, mail server, and private music stream so I can listen to all my tunes at work. My web content draws over 40k pageviews a month... several gigs of data sent upstream to approx 10k unique users. It's not corporate scale but it's fine for a hobbyist. Speakeasy's policy explicitly allows you to run your own servers with the exception of IRC. They are a really, really good ISP. (Check dslreports.com for more reviews and recommendations) $90/mo (plus taxes) isn't chump change but I really enjoy running my own server so it is worth it to me. It is probably possible to co-lo for less, but this way I have complete control over everything. If I want to try something new, I just do it. Before Speakeasy, I used an ATT cable modem. It was a dynamic IP but they only changed it on me once every 6 months, so I got by for quite a while. See if you can figure out what your lease time is before you get a new ISP. It might be good enough to get your feet wet. Good luck and have fun! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= matt@wrongcrowd.com * KF6IYW * http://wrongcrowd.com "I am Matt Staroscik and I approved this message." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 07:53:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0938916A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:53:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bigiron.solutions.lv (bigiron.solutions.lv [83.241.9.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EDD43D49 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:53:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dimss@bigiron.solutions.lv) Received: by bigiron.solutions.lv (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8CA9E1FB1; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:53:08 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:53:08 +0200 From: Dmitry Ivanov To: Donald Perkovich Message-ID: <20041222075308.GA1305@bigiron.solutions.lv> References: <41C90AA7.5050508@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C90AA7.5050508@mindspring.com> User-Agent: Mutt! cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: No Gnome Text X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:53:06 -0000 On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 09:48:23PM -0800, Donald Perkovich wrote: > are there, thie icons are there, but no text. Applications that aren't > gnome apps display text normally. For example gEdit has no text in its > menus, but NEdit looks normal. Are non-Gnome GTK2 apps like GIMP or Tea affcted too? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 08:13:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB5A16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:13:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from stjohn.ac.th (ns.stjohn.ac.th [202.21.144.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C2F43D3F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:13:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mcrogerm@stjohn.ac.th) Received: from tulip.stjohn.ac.th [203.151.134.104] by stjohn.ac.th with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.14) id ACC12C70030; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:13:53 +0700 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20041222151229.00a208a0@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: stjohn.stjohn.ac.th:mcrogerm@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:13:51 +0700 To: Jonathan Chen From: Roger Merritt In-Reply-To: <20041222054452.GB3156@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20041222121229.00a25a00@127.0.0.1> <5.2.0.9.0.20041222121229.00a25a00@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-68B81540 cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: Transferring directories over a network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:13:58 -0000 At 12:44 PM 12/22/04, you wrote: >On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 12:24:59PM +0700, Roger Merritt wrote: > > I hope this isn't too common a question. I couldn't devise a good set of > > keywords to use Google. > > > > I just received a new machine to replace my ancient server/gateway. I > > decided the best way to go was to install FreeBSD 5.3, and transfer user > > directories and config files using ssh over the intranet. Of course, I > > overlooked the fact that you can't login to root. > >Here's a thought: if it's only going to be in your internal network, >why not enable PermitRootLogin under sshd until you get the files >across. Aha! That's it. I'd better learn more about configuring sshd while I'm at it. Thank you! -- Roger -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release Date: 12/21/04 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 08:17:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7618516A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:17:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at (chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at [84.114.137.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F1F3643D31 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:17:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: (qmail 41559 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2004 08:17:03 -0000 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net (192.168.123.10) by ns.matrix.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 08:17:03 -0000 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, scott@sremick.net Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:16:46 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20041222051348.71854.qmail@web53601.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20041222051348.71854.qmail@web53601.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412220917.02579.4711@chello.at> Subject: Re: Hang on install of 5.3 on old Presario X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:17:06 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 22 December 2004 06:13, Scott I. Remick wrote: > I'm trying to breathe some life into some old hardware by giving it a task > of a server. I've burnt the full 5.3 ISO to CD. I can get it to read the CD > fine and start to boot. I get as far as the "Welcome to FreeBSD" menu (with > the ASCII daemon). No matter what option I choose, the bar then spins for a > moment and then the computer hangs. > > I've tried upgrading the BIOS to the latest offered from Compaq's website > (although it's dated 1998). I've turned off PnP, and all unneeded ports > (including serial, parallel, USB). I've tried both the "DOS" and "Other" > setting for the HDD geometry. I've turned off all power-saving. Nothing > seems to work. I've also tried using the 3 floppies... same problem. Try to disable acpi at the loader(8) prompt: set hint.acpi.0.disabled=1 Cheers, ch - -- Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFByS1+09WjGjvKU74RAo77AJ9SPdN8YWFzp0Y6vUfJyu/J/KadtACfYWfi +lZhwsAV4tpv1rtDkdyTcC0= =bQsj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 08:41:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3631716A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:41:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84AC43D4C for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:41:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost.circlesquared.com [IPv6:::1]) iBM8f9fr064295; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:41:20 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Message-ID: <41C93325.90107@circlesquared.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:41:09 +0000 From: Peter Risdon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041219 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam References: <008901c4e7f1$51ba3970$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> In-Reply-To: <008901c4e7f1$51ba3970$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Fw: What do these PHP ports mean? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:41:26 -0000 Adam wrote: > I'm porting PHP, Installing? I looked at the 5 different PHP 5.0.3 version descriptions > on http://www.freebsd.org/ports/www.html they all have the same long > description and different "Requires" > > What are the differences in these? > php5-5.0.3_1 The base port. Without additional arguments, a make install clean will install the cli (command line interpreter) and mod_php. > php5-cgi-5.0.3_1 This installs the cgi interpreter instead of the cli. Since they have the same name and are installed to the same location, you can only have one of these installed[1]. > php5-mnogosearch-5.0.3_1 install (php and) the extensions necessary for mnogosearch. > php5-session-5.0.3_1 install session support for php > php5-tidy-5.0.3_1 (html) tidy extension for php. Peter. [1] In fact you can install both, with a bit of hand-rolling. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 09:04:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81AEC16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:04:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp04.eresmas.com (asmtp04.eresmas.com [62.81.235.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0894D43D53 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:04:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ea1abz@wanadoo.es) Received: from [192.168.108.52] (helo=mx01.eresmas.com) by asmtp04.eresmas.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Ch2Pv-0001AD-Sr; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:04:23 +0100 Received: from [80.103.16.231] (helo=[80.103.16.231]) by mx01.eresmas.com with asmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1Ch2Pq-0006XW-Sm; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:04:22 +0100 Message-ID: <41C938C2.5090209@wanadoo.es> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:05:06 +0100 From: Ramiro Aceves User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040926) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> References: <20041222051348.71854.qmail@web53601.mail.yahoo.com> <200412220917.02579.4711@chello.at> In-Reply-To: <200412220917.02579.4711@chello.at> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) cc: scott@sremick.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hang on install of 5.3 on old Presario X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:04:26 -0000 Scott I. Remick wrote: > I'm trying to breathe some life into some old hardware by giving it a task > of a server. I've burnt the full 5.3 ISO to CD. I can get it to read the CD > fine and start to boot. I get as far as the "Welcome to FreeBSD" menu (with > the ASCII daemon). No matter what option I choose, the bar then spins for a > moment and then the computer hangs. I have the same problem in my old Pentium 100MHz, but booting from floppies. I have tried the hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" and it does not work. Also have tried many of the boot loader options in loader man page, but no success. It is very boring and time consuming waiting for the three floppies to load, and at the end only seeing the last one reboots the computer. I have read many mailing lists without success. My pentium is 16 MB RAM, and the instalation process runs fine in FreeBSD 4.10. I would like to test the installation with a little more memory, as I have read on the Internet that "some people reported to need more than 20 MB to install 5.3, and that information is outdated on the manual". Saddly, it is not possible to get that old 72 pin memory here on the stores. I have an older 486 with 24 MB RAM and it runs freebsd 5.3 installation process very well, but unfortunately, its memory does not fit on the pentium. If you discover anything, please tell us. Ramiro. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 09:07:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC8016A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:07:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87EB143D1F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:07:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bees.msu@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so197518rne for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:07:50 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PZhBk3qPEESg7cKx/KR+LER9sPpi4ImGZYFOvDLC7T76xaSevQqQ9IHoZQIID6qNsj4LHaQxyr5GXbPmKqFsZ0voNWQMS1O89Tql7Qy7YoHmare+q3fcltk88I6v4kwvbNVbQk0fpdNln6l5pXcaNZFBNxLOxEkAm4JXp2RilWs= Received: by 10.38.73.54 with SMTP id v54mr222308rna; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.12.78 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:07:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:07:49 -0500 From: Zachary Huang To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: make buildkernel KERNEL or KERNCONF? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Zachary Huang List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:07:51 -0000 in the usr/src/UPDATING file with FreeBSD 4.2: we have: To update from 4.0-RELEASE or later to the most current 4.x-STABLE ---------- make buildworld make buildkernel KERNEL=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE make installkernel KERNEL=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE reboot (in single user) [1] make installworld mergemaster reboot whereas in the 4.10 I am getting through cvsup: (notice it is kernCONF, not KerNEL anymore). To update from 4.0-RELEASE or later to the most current 4.x-STABLE ---------- make buildworld make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE reboot (in single user) [1] make installworld mergemaster [2] reboot I guess I still follow the first one since that is what came with the 4.2. and I am trying to upgrade from 4.2 to 4.10. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 09:16:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3304316A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:16:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kwiatek.eu.org (kwiatek.eu.org [193.110.123.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1978643D41 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:16:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kwiatek@tpi.pl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kwiatek.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7FA6745EA; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:16:06 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:16:06 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Kwiatkowski X-X-Sender: kwiatek@kwiatek.eu.org To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041222101311.B4080@kwiatek.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: freebsd 5.3 and squid problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:16:24 -0000 Hello I'm trying to run reverse proxy on ma 5.3 Stable . My problem with squid is that squid stops accepting new connections, all are timeouted. My kernel config is: options SYSVSHM options SHMSEG=16 options SHMMNI=32 options SHMMAX=2097152 options SHMALL=4096 options SYSVMSG options MSGMNB=16384 options MSGMNI=40 options MSGSEG=4096 options MSGSSZ=64 options MSGTQL=4096 sysctl.conf: vfs.vmiodirenable=1 kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=2097152 kern.ipc.somaxconn=8192 kern.ipc.maxsockets=16424 kern.maxfiles=65536 kern.maxfilesperproc=32768 net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=1 net.inet.tcp.delayed_ack=0 net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65535 net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65535 net.inet.udp.recvspace=65535 net.inet.udp.maxdgram=57344 net.local.stream.recvspace=65535 # kern.threads.max_threads_per_proc=16384 kern.threads.max_groups_per_proc=16384 and boot/loader.conf kern.ipc.maxsockets=16424 Have got any idea ?? All disks are scsi, i've tried cache on ufs and on diskd, On network interfaces is traffic about 80Mbit/s... Regards AK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 10:18:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E3716A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:18:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E7243D5E for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:18:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])iBMAI7Zg006088; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:18:07 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) iBMAI7W4000974; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:18:07 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)iBMAI7Zr000973; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:18:07 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:18:07 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Zachary Huang Message-ID: <20041222101806.GC861@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildkernel KERNEL or KERNCONF? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:18:12 -0000 On 2004-12-22 04:07, Zachary Huang wrote: > in the usr/src/UPDATING file with FreeBSD 4.2: > > we have: > > To update from 4.0-RELEASE or later to the most current > 4.x-STABLE > ---------- > make buildworld > make buildkernel KERNEL=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > make installkernel KERNEL=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > reboot (in single user) [1] > make installworld > mergemaster > reboot > > whereas in the 4.10 I am getting through cvsup: (notice it is > kernCONF, not KerNEL anymore). > > To update from 4.0-RELEASE or later to the most current > 4.x-STABLE > ---------- > make buildworld > make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > reboot (in single user) [1] > make installworld > mergemaster [2] > reboot > > I guess I still follow the first one since that is what came with the > 4.2. and I am trying to upgrade from 4.2 to 4.10. Nope. You follow what /usr/src/UPDATING says. The 'buildkernel' process uses the Makefiles and the support make includes from /usr/src as early as possible, so you should be able to use: # cd /usr/src # make buildworld # make KERNCONF=MYKERNEL buildkernel even if you're updating from versions of 4.X that didn't support the KERNCONF make option. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 10:56:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB6D16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:56:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at (chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at [84.114.137.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 234EC43D54 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:56:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: (qmail 42210 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2004 10:56:43 -0000 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net (192.168.123.10) by ns.matrix.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 10:56:43 -0000 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:56:19 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20041222051348.71854.qmail@web53601.mail.yahoo.com> <200412220917.02579.4711@chello.at> <41C938C2.5090209@wanadoo.es> In-Reply-To: <41C938C2.5090209@wanadoo.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412221156.42891.4711@chello.at> cc: scott@sremick.net cc: Ramiro Aceves Subject: Re: Hang on install of 5.3 on old Presario X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:56:45 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 22 December 2004 10:05, Ramiro Aceves wrote: [...] > I have an older 486 with 24 MB RAM and it runs freebsd 5.3 installation > process very well, but unfortunately, its memory does not fit on the > pentium. Did you try to move the harddisk of the 16MB box over to the 24MB box and install 5.3 there? - -- Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFByVLq09WjGjvKU74RAjMMAJ0e9n95lIA/xiATevgVvYbcXgmNUwCeIHAc arnCkviYQ7d5LPnoUECscIA= =a0f+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 11:07:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E061A16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:07:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CD1F343D49 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:07:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from free.bsd@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 9386 invoked by uid 0); 22 Dec 2004 11:07:05 -0000 Received: from 141.20.195.138 by www17.gmx.net with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:07:05 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:07:05 +0100 (MET) From: "freebsd_daemon" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated: #20105305 Message-ID: <2365.1103713625@www17.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.6 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problem with tar archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:07:08 -0000 Dear list, I got a tar archive (varia.tar), when I try to un-tar it I get: # tar xvf ./varia.tar ../varia/ tar: ../varia/: Member name contains `..' ../varia/bkup200401.gz tar: ../varia/bkup200401.gz: Member name contains `..' [...] ../varia/bkup200411.gz tar: ../varia/bkup200411.gz: Member name contains `..' tar: Error exit delay from previous error Is there a way to un-tar that archive despite of that? TIA zheyu -- +++ Sparen Sie mit GMX DSL +++ http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl AKTION fr Wechsler: DSL-Tarife ab 3,99 EUR/Monat + Startguthaben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 11:27:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3ED16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:27:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from r2d2.reverse.net (r2d2.reverse.net [66.225.223.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD1C43D1D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:27:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dryanta@r2d2.reverse.net) Received: from webmail2.reverse.net (localhost.reverse.net [127.0.0.1]) by r2d2.reverse.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F3C3FF4F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:27:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from c-67-183-124-1.client.comcast.net ([67.183.124.1]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user dryanta) by webmail2.reverse.net with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:27:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <2039.67.183.124.1.1103714830.squirrel@webmail2.reverse.net> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:27:10 -0500 (EST) From: dryanta@r2d2.reverse.net To: questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: My server goes down and I do not know why X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:27:11 -0000 Hi my name is Phill. I am having an issue with my freebsd webserver that is behind a freebsd nat/firewall and was wondering if you can point me the right way to resolve my issue. My connection to my ISP (microwave wi-fi) keeps dying every couple days and I do not know where to start to determine the issue. What are the basic diagnostic steps for determining why my connection keeps dying every couple days? I do not know if it is a problem with the wifi, routing, or nat. If it is a problem w/ wifi i want to compile a bunch of info to bring to isp to be like 'you idiots are not upholding sla!' and if it is my internal configuration I would like to simply resolve the issue. What is necessary for me to do for assistance in this issue? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 11:27:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A0A16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:27:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxsf07.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf07.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C4D43D2D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:27:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bobself@charter.net) Received: from mxip04.cluster1.charter.net (mxip04a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.134])iBMBRor2016795 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:27:50 -0500 Received: from res-24-177-224-065.spa.sc.charter.com (HELO [192.168.1.102]) (24.177.224.65) by mxip04.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 22 Dec 2004 06:27:50 -0500 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.88,80,1102309200"; d="scan'208"; a="510242654:sNHT12305836" Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.289 [265.6.3]); Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:27:47 -0500 Message-ID: <41C95A32.3050208@charter.net> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:27:46 -0500 From: bob User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Subject: mysql setup question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:27:52 -0000 I'm running 4.10 stable. I copied /usr/local/share/mysql/my-medium.cnf to /etc/my.cnf. I uncommented the lines about innodb and restarted mysqld by running /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh I'm running a web server that accesses a mysql database. Is there a way that I can verify that mysql is using /etc/my.cnf? Also does this seem like the correct procedure for running mysql with a web server? Bob -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.6.3 - Release Date: 12/21/2004 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 11:34:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B8816A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:34:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ash.oak-wood.co.uk (ash.oak-wood.co.uk [62.3.200.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F4C43D1F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:34:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@oak-wood.co.uk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ash.oak-wood.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10025A7272 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:34:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ash.oak-wood.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ash.oak-wood.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 45953-01 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:34:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from celandine.oak-wood.co.uk (celandine.oak-wood.co.uk [62.3.200.115]) by ash.oak-wood.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B932A6EB5 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:34:08 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <7W7$SMDXuVyBFw51@celandine.oak-wood.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:33:43 +0000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Chris Hastie MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-U () X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ash.oak-wood.co.uk Subject: How to upgrade from 5.2.1 to 5.3 with only remote access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:34:11 -0000 Hi I'm sure there must be documentation on this, but I just can't find it. Plenty of stuff on upgrading from 4.x to 5.3, but nothing on upgrading from 5.2.1 The situation is that I have a remote, leased server running 5.2.1. I have ssh access only, no console access or terminal server, so anything involving single user mode is not an option. I believe the original installation was a binary installation, though I have since installed some of the source (using sysinstall) so that I could customise the kernel. What is the most sensible way to set about performing this upgrade? Is it even possible? Thanks -- Chris Hastie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 11:40:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961E216A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:40:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (wcborstel.demon.nl [82.161.134.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE21443D1F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:40:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jorn@wcborstel.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491E643A2; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:40:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.wcborstel.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 88051-09; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:40:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FD74387; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:40:55 +0100 (CET) From: "Jorn Argelo" To: Chris Hastie , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:40:55 +0100 Message-Id: <20041222113804.M25188@wcborstel.nl> In-Reply-To: <7W7$SMDXuVyBFw51@celandine.oak-wood.co.uk> References: <7W7$SMDXuVyBFw51@celandine.oak-wood.co.uk> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 82.161.134.53 (jorn) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.wcborstel.nl Subject: Re: How to upgrade from 5.2.1 to 5.3 with only remote access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:40:31 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:33:43 +0000, Chris Hastie wrote > Hi > > I'm sure there must be documentation on this, but I just can't find > it. Plenty of stuff on upgrading from 4.x to 5.3, but nothing on > upgrading from 5.2.1 > > The situation is that I have a remote, leased server running 5.2.1. > I have ssh access only, no console access or terminal server, so > anything involving single user mode is not an option. I believe the > original installation was a binary installation, though I have since > installed some of the source (using sysinstall) so that I could > customise the kernel. I never did an make installworld in single user mode, and it always went fine. It's probably not the right thing to do, though. You could ask the personnel there to do the steps required in single user mode. They can probably hook up a monitor on it. Cheers, Jorn. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 11:47:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB70916A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:47:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from arcas.frasa.net (arcas.frasa.net [80.69.78.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320C443D4C for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:47:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@frasa.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arcas.frasa.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C44ADC16D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:47:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from arcas.frasa.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arcas.frasa.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 37473-04 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:47:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from secure.frasa.net (lyra [80.69.78.172]) by arcas.frasa.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 83F56C148 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:47:34 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: V-webmail 1.5.0 ( http://www.v-webmail.co.uk/ ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:47:34 +0100 From: "Mark Frasa" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: at frasa.net Subject: DNS TTL problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mark@frasa.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:47:37 -0000 Hello, I am using a djbdns DNS server which operates almost perfect. There is 1 small problem, i have for my domain frasa.net 2 namservers: frasa.net. 3600 IN NS ns1.frasa.net. frasa.net. 3600 IN NS ns2.frasa.net. This is when i resolve directly on ns1.frasa.net or ns2.frasa.net When I resolve on my ISP's nameserver and serveral others: frasa.net. 172800 IN NS ns1.frasa.net. frasa.net. 172800 IN NS ns2.frasa.net. The problem is that this is a TTL of 2 days. When i Trace the dig, is see that the root servers are providing the 2 days TTL: ;; Received 512 bytes from 198.32.64.12#53(l.root-servers.net) in 169 ms frasa.net. 172800 IN NS ns1.frasa.net. frasa.net. 172800 IN NS ns2.frasa.net. ;; Received 95 bytes from 192.42.93.30#53(G.GTLD-SERVERS.net) in 154 ms Can anyone explain this behaviour? Cheers Mark. _________________________________________________________ This mail sent using V-webmail - http://www.v-webmail.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 12:01:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D02816A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:01:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ylpvm53.prodigy.net (ylpvm53-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADAF43D54 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:01:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from n0oct@sbcglobal.net) Received: from shirley (ppp-68-89-144-63.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [68.89.144.63]) (authenticated bits=0)iBMC2Mf6015089 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:02:22 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:01:49 -0600 From: n0oct@sbcglobal.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20041222060149.5813eb82@shirley> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:01:52 -0000 > Joshua Tinnin gamera at pacbell.net wrote on > Tue Dec 21 19:56:20 PST 2004 > >On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 10:24:17PM -0500, RL wrote: > >Hi. I currently have a cable modem, but I want to (if it's not too > >pricey) run my own servers including DNS server. My cable provider > >currently doesn't offer static IPs so I have a dynamic. How would I > >go about setting up my own DNS? Would I do it through the cable > >modem? > >Wouldn't I have to buy an IP block and be the authority for it? I'm a > >little lost. :) > You will have problems doing this unless you have a static IP. I don't > think any cable service offers that. You can run a DNS server on an > internal network in your case. It's also possible to run a dynamic IP > resolver service, like No-IP's (dns/noip), but that is far from > perfect, > unless you're just doing this for testing. For any real-world purpose, > you really have to have a static IP and a fully-qualified hostname. I > have read of people running their own servers for everyday use using > something like No-IP, but if you're running a mail server, you will > most > likely have to deal with mail being rejected because of blacklisting > (many ISPs block all major ISPs' dynamic blocks from sending to their > mail servers to prevent spam), as well as reverse dns problems. While the reverse DNS thing is true, the mailservers can be set up to use a smarthost and still operate off a dynamic IP address. Mine do. -- JS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 12:07:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825AB16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:07:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B23D43D3F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:07:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ippiraman@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so209433rne for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:07:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=hK7CVnSxaXCgxW36MdRn1C4+8aG/lPFapK88KIec1RUBo4wNIwZ1DQD3lbzK+s/T+TinyaWLeDWKj7D8tV4sLyOy/2dkxPtz2y3nVdinmxLtQscGUwF8fMg1AzenwvZKQ5tjSM64GnmxpNS9d6RJt4tclX0Y/5nA/hsjdpPt2WE= Received: by 10.38.13.1 with SMTP id 1mr410687rnm; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:07:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.102.32 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 04:07:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:07:36 +0800 From: Irvin Piraman To: John Conover , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041222050353.23735.qmail@rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041222050353.23735.qmail@rahul.net> Subject: Re: how to mount a USB pen drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Irvin Piraman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:07:37 -0000 mount -t msdos /dev/da1s1 /mnt HTH Irvin On 22 Dec 2004 05:03:53 -0000, John Conover wrote: > > I plug in a USB pen drive, and dmesg says: > > umass0: Fujifilm USB Drive, rev 2.00/2.00, addr 2 > GEOM: create disk da1 dp=0xc20d3850 > da1 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da1: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device > da1: 1.000MB/s transfers > da1: 62MB (127840 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 62C) > > How do I mount the USB pen drive? (It hasn't been formatted, and I > assume its MSDOS formatted since it was used on Win98.) > > Thanks, > > John > > -- > > John Conover, conover@rahul.net, http://www.johncon.com/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 12:07:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C3A716A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:07:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp15.wxs.nl (smtp15.wxs.nl [195.121.6.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F56D43D41 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:07:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marco@beishuizen.info) Received: from tsunami.bsd (ipd50a233c.speed.planet.nl [213.10.35.60]) by smtp15.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I9400C71HOWIT@smtp15.wxs.nl> for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:07:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:07:44 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen Sender: marco@tsunami.bsd To: FreeBSD questions mailing list Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT FreeBSD: Homepage: Subject: fsck locks up SMP system (5.3-REL) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:07:46 -0000 Hi, I have a problem with fsck. After a lockup of X.org I couldn't use my keyboard anymore and I had to reset the computer. When it rebooted fsck didn't start immediately, but started after the login in the background. After some checks fsck stops working but stays a running process (in "getblk" state). Everything seems normal then but when I start X, after a while the system locks up again and I have to reset the machine again. If I don't start X but shutdown from the console it doesn't shut down because some "processes couldn't be killed", and the only option is to reset. Does anyone has an idea how I can repair my filesystems? Thanks, Marco -- "As part of the conversion, computer specialists rewrote 1,500 programs; a process that traditionally requires some debugging." -- USA Today, referring to the IRS switchover to a new computer system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 12:10:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8DA16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:10:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out003.verizon.net (out003pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579B943D58 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:10:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.252.53]) by out003.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041222121007.ZLRC1106.out003.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:10:07 -0600 Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 99D7111579; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:09:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:09:43 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041222120943.GA43635@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041222035615.GA10180@gamerasmog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20041222035615.GA10180@gamerasmog.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out003.verizon.net from [68.163.252.53] at Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:10:07 -0600 Subject: Re: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:10:09 -0000 On 12/21/04 07:56 PM, Joshua Tinnin sat at the `puter and typed: > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 10:24:17PM -0500, RL wrote: > > Hi. I currently have a cable modem, but I want to (if it's not too > > pricey) run my own servers including DNS server. My cable > > provider currently doesn't offer static IPs so I have a dynamic. > > How would I go about setting up my own DNS? Would I do it through > > the cable modem? Wouldn't I have to buy an IP block and be the > > authority for it? I'm a little lost. :) > > You will have problems doing this unless you have a static IP. I > don't think any cable service offers that. You can run a DNS server > on an internal network in your case. It's also possible to run a > dynamic IP resolver service, like No-IP's (dns/noip), but that is > far from perfect, unless you're just doing this for testing. For any > real-world purpose, you really have to have a static IP and a > fully-qualified hostname. I have read of people running their own > servers for everyday use using something like No-IP, but if you're > running a mail server, you will most likely have to deal with mail > being rejected because of blacklisting (many ISPs block all major > ISPs' dynamic blocks from sending to their mail servers to prevent > spam), as well as reverse dns problems. It can work alright for a > small website server setup for fun or testing, or something that > won't require complicated network protocols. All true, but there are easy ways around all of this. I don't know about the other dynamic dns services, but ZoneEdit (http://www.zoneedit.com/) is free up to a very reasonable traffic level - never cost me a nickel until I wanted backup mail service, and I've even cranked the TTL down a little on my zone records. I can't remember offhand what a traffic unit cost, probably because I found it minimal at best. They also have a web based interface you can have your dhcp hooks call through lynx to automagically reset your IP on their end anytime you get renumbered. Since I've cranked my zone TTL down a bit, it's usually a matter of minutes until the records get out to the farthest reaches. Granted, if I were renumbered every week, I'd probably hit the threshold on free service more often. As for rejected email, I just have zoneedit act as the lowest priority MX for my domains and anytime something can't get sent to my system because I've been renumbered, zoneedit will spend up to 10 days trying to relay it in - which usually turns into a matter of a couple hours at most, since they find out where I am pretty quick. I've been using zoneedit for longer than I can remember - since my 4.3 install at least, with both cable/DHCP and DSL/PPP, and the only time I ever know I've been renumbered is when I check my logs. I don't get reports of email that I never received either. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ԿԬ The clash of ideas is the sound of freedom. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 12:34:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8088116A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:34:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out007.verizon.net (out007pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD65843D2D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:34:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.252.53]) by out007.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041222123428.UEJM27681.out007.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:34:28 -0600 Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F04DE11862; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:34:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:34:03 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041222123403.GB43635@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041222035615.GA10180@gamerasmog.com> <1103688155.7511.11.camel@server1> <41C8F39A.30104@makeworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out007.verizon.net from [68.163.252.53] at Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:34:28 -0600 Subject: Re: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:34:29 -0000 On 12/21/04 11:12 PM, RL sat at the `puter and typed: > > > What's the most popular option? Is it buying a business DSL or T1 > service or is it to colocate it? All of them are pricey. :( That really depends on your desired level of service. If you're running servers for commercial purposes or even very ambitious personal purposes, you may be happy with a hosting company. They're getting a lot more reasonable than static IPs. Can't understand why because they usually *provide* a static IP, often dedicated to your account. Someone I work with uses openhosting.com, and says they're pretty good. He runs a mail server and web server on a virtual Linux system with its own IP. He also does mail forwarding for an NPO and has a few email accounts, mostly for friends. Since it's a virtual system, he essentially has root access and can install whatever software he wants in his own 'system'. I run a mail server with 4 family accounts, a webserver (currently just the Apache test page) and Tomcat out of my own back room in my apartment. I never did anything overly fancy, no commercial stuff, but at one point I did put up a few Apache Perl modules I wrote and lots of family pics available only to those with a password. Eventually I'll get around to doing some real fun stuff with it, but until then, it's just that. Maybe someday I'll break down and go with a hosting company, but right now I'm perfectly happy with the setup I have. If you're going to be putting up commercial pages and driving traffic to it, trust me, you want someone else bargaining for that bandwidth. Your ISP will kick back *hard* if they see your bandwidth spike to that degree. As for the Colo, that's not really a "one man band" kind of option. My employer has colocation services all over the planet, and they pay quite a bit for it. They're getting a good deal, but that's because they pay for so many. One system, or even a switch and a few systems is going to cost a lot more. You might as well get FTTP from Verizon and go with a small addition to your house to host it. It may cost a little more than the colo in the short run, but in the long run, you still have the addition. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ԿԬ Nirvana? That's the place where the powers that be and their friends hang out. -- Zonker Harris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 12:39:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628D116A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:39:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp01.eresmas.com (asmtp01.eresmas.com [62.81.235.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4CB843D3F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:39:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ea1abz@wanadoo.es) Received: from [192.168.108.55] (helo=mx01.eresmas.com) by asmtp01.eresmas.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Ch5ll-0003cQ-8y; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:39:09 +0100 Received: from [80.103.54.132] (helo=[80.103.54.132]) by mx01.eresmas.com with asmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1Ch5lk-00085y-5b; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:39:08 +0100 Message-ID: <41C96B1A.30306@wanadoo.es> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:39:54 +0100 From: Ramiro Aceves User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040926) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> References: <20041222051348.71854.qmail@web53601.mail.yahoo.com> <200412220917.02579.4711@chello.at> <41C938C2.5090209@wanadoo.es> <200412221156.42891.4711@chello.at> In-Reply-To: <200412221156.42891.4711@chello.at> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) cc: scott@sremick.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hang on install of 5.3 on old Presario X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:39:12 -0000 Christian Hiris wrote: > On Wednesday 22 December 2004 10:05, Ramiro Aceves wrote: > [...] > >>>I have an older 486 with 24 MB RAM and it runs freebsd 5.3 installation >>>process very well, but unfortunately, its memory does not fit on the >>>pentium. > > > Did you try to move the harddisk of the 16MB box over to the 24MB box and > install 5.3 there? > Thanks, I have not tried that. My 24MB computer is at the summer house, 15 km from here, and now it is cold weather there, there is no heating system :-( I will look for old memory banks, I have asked for the memory banks to a friend of mine that had got many old computers now retired in an office. He will call me back if he finds some. We will see. Thank you. Ramiro. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 12:42:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1CA816A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:42:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out008.verizon.net (out008pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AEF43D54 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:42:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.252.53]) by out008.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041222124230.BEUD17379.out008.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:42:30 -0600 Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 24C7A11862; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:42:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:42:06 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041222124205.GC43635@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041222035615.GA10180@gamerasmog.com> <20041222041444.GB10180@gamerasmog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20041222041444.GB10180@gamerasmog.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out008.verizon.net from [68.163.252.53] at Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:42:30 -0600 Subject: Re: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:42:31 -0000 On 12/21/04 08:14 PM, Joshua Tinnin sat at the `puter and typed: > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 10:59:51PM -0500, RL wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:56:15 -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 10:24:17PM -0500, RL wrote: > > > > Hi. I currently have a cable modem, but I want to (if it's not too > > > > pricey) run my own servers including DNS server. My cable provider > > > > currently doesn't offer static IPs so I have a dynamic. How would I > > > > go about setting up my own DNS? Would I do it through the cable modem? > > > > Wouldn't I have to buy an IP block and be the authority for it? I'm a > > > > little lost. :) > > > > > > You will have problems doing this unless you have a static IP. I don't > > > think any cable service offers that. You can run a DNS server on an > > > internal network in your case. It's also possible to run a dynamic IP > > > resolver service, like No-IP's (dns/noip), but that is far from perfect, > > > unless you're just doing this for testing. For any real-world purpose, > > > you really have to have a static IP and a fully-qualified hostname. I > > > have read of people running their own servers for everyday use using > > > something like No-IP, but if you're running a mail server, you will most > > > likely have to deal with mail being rejected because of blacklisting > > > (many ISPs block all major ISPs' dynamic blocks from sending to their > > > mail servers to prevent spam), as well as reverse dns problems. It can > > > work alright for a small website server setup for fun or testing, or > > > something that won't require complicated network protocols. > > > > I just called my cable modem ISP (adelphia) and they said a static IP > > address is $130 per month!!!!!! Forget that! Now what are my other > > options? I do have a dynDNS address for my dynamic IP, but I can't run > > a DNS server and do reverse DNS with that. :( > > Well, that's news to me. I guess it was just a matter of time before > cable providers started offering static IP. Even so, you're probably > best off shopping around a bit, although you most likely won't find > anything that's $40/mo., but who knows? One advantage of going with a > smaller provider with a good reputation is that your IP won't be > blacklisted (or there is much less likelihood of it). One problem with > so many people running servers these days is that you don't know who to > trust, so whole IP blocks of major ISPs end up being blacklisted, and > not just the dynamic blocks, but this is more likely to happen if the > ISP is careless about spam. If you're going to go through with it and > spend the extra money, make sure to do some research and get a good IP > with a reputable company. Comcast/AT&T/MediaOne has been offering static IPs for a few years. They've just never advertised them very thoroughly - and with good reason, they're not the least bit competitive with the other options out there. I've always suspected that they just don't want to do it so they mask in a "hassle surcharge". Even if your IP block is blacklisted, as MOST dynamic blocks are, decent ISPs often have their own relays. Even if it's not an open relay (which hopefully it isn't) you can set up sendmail or postfix to do the authentication and relay through your ISP. This works fine for me. > As for other options, you're kinda stuck with the problems of reverse > dns, except if your IP isn't released for a long time, but then you're > sort of gambling. Anyway, it's kind of a drag, I remember a time not > long ago when static IPs with shell accounts on dialup were cheap, but > now that so many people have broadband, you really have to pony up a bit > of extra cash to get your IP out of the swamp of IP blocks full of > zombied machines. But you can always do some testing on your own to see > what would work for you. That still assumes rDNS is critical. It's not for lots of things. Even commercial ventures often gloss over the rDNS side of DNS administration. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ԿԬ Deflector shields just came on, Captain. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 12:58:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E7716A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:58:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kaur.zehym.com (fitch.id.au [203.89.243.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9657B43D41 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:58:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from travis@fitch.id.au) Received: from fedora.fitch.id.au (cpe-dhcp-203.214.64.71.bigblue.net.au [203.214.64.71] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by kaur.zehym.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBMCtmVo040058; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:55:51 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from travis@fitch.id.au) From: Travis Fitch To: Chris Hastie In-Reply-To: <7W7$SMDXuVyBFw51@celandine.oak-wood.co.uk> References: <7W7$SMDXuVyBFw51@celandine.oak-wood.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Fitch Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:58:04 +1100 Message-Id: <1103720285.22351.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to upgrade from 5.2.1 to 5.3 with only remote access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:58:02 -0000 Try this on for size. Should fit nicely http://www.oreillynet.com/lpt/wlg/6033 Travis On Wed, 2004-12-22 at 11:33 +0000, Chris Hastie wrote: > Hi > > I'm sure there must be documentation on this, but I just can't find it. > Plenty of stuff on upgrading from 4.x to 5.3, but nothing on upgrading > from 5.2.1 > > The situation is that I have a remote, leased server running 5.2.1. I > have ssh access only, no console access or terminal server, so anything > involving single user mode is not an option. I believe the original > installation was a binary installation, though I have since installed > some of the source (using sysinstall) so that I could customise the > kernel. > > What is the most sensible way to set about performing this upgrade? Is > it even possible? > > Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 13:04:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D0816A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:04:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.ya.com (smtp04.ya.com [62.151.11.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141F143D2D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:04:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jcazor@ya.com) Received: from [62.151.11.37] (helo=ispwebmail03) by smtp.ya.com with smtp id 1Ch6AV-0006bT-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:04:44 +0100 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:04:43 +0100 From: "jcazor@ya.com " To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Xmailer: Mixmail Server 3.0 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Subject: problem with X in a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jcazor@ya.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:04:45 -0000 hi, im having problems configuring the X window system in a IBM thinkpad laptop. The servers starts ok, but the problem is that it doesnt fit the full screen. i dont know if you undrestand me, because my english is not very good. im gonna explain it with a picture: |-------------------- | <=3D screen of my laptop | |---------------| | | | | | | | <=3D=3D size of the X's screen | |---------------| | |---------------------| the video card is a silicon motion, but the driver doesnt work, so i used a generic VGA. Now im using FreeBSD 5.3 with Xorg, but before i was using debian with XF86 and i had the same problem, but i fixed it startingthe X server with the "-dpi 100" but this now doesnt work. i also have used the xvfb server, but with this server doesnt work. any idea is welcome. thanks in advance. jcazor. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 13:22:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5718E16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:22:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.178.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F5443D3F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:22:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@uni-mainz.de) Received: from [134.93.183.16] (edda.Geo.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.183.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26484300027D; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:21:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C974EF.8020002@uni-mainz.de> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:21:51 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Institut =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr_Geophysik?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; de-AT; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041113 X-Accept-Language: de-de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marco Beishuizen References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at uni-mainz.de cc: FreeBSD questions mailing list Subject: Re: fsck locks up SMP system (5.3-REL) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:22:05 -0000 Marco Beishuizen schrieb: > > Hi, > > I have a problem with fsck. After a lockup of X.org I couldn't use my > keyboard anymore and I had to reset the computer. When it rebooted > fsck didn't start immediately, but started after the login in the > background. After some checks fsck stops working but stays a running > process (in "getblk" state). > Everything seems normal then but when I start X, after a while the > system locks up again and I have to reset the machine again. If I > don't start X but shutdown from the console it doesn't shut down > because some "processes couldn't be killed", and the only option is to > reset. > > Does anyone has an idea how I can repair my filesystems? > > Thanks, > > Marco > Please try to boot your system in single user mode (type '4' in the start screen, where the countdown can be watched) an do a 'fsck -y'. Then watch whether your box gets stuck or. If it also get stuck in single user mode, please report again. I'm very interestes in this! Thanks in advance, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 13:39:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FAE416A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:39:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay01.plus.net (ptb-relay01.plus.net [212.159.14.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F032C43D5C for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:39:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ian@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by ptb-relay01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Ch6iR-0001rU-I0; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:39:47 +0000 From: Xian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:39:46 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412221339.46891.ian@codepad.net> cc: paul@theharbour.eclipse.co.uk Subject: strange routing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:39:49 -0000 I have a friend who has set up a FreeBSD box (called Atlantis) as a router between his LAN and the Internet. It connects to the Internet and can make and receive connections ok (eg I can ssh in from outside, and he can ssh out), but other computers on the network can't connect out through it. The strange thing is that when the default route on Atlantis is set to the old router he has and this is used to connect to the Internet, other computers on the network can connect out to the Internet. Trace route confirms the connection is going via Atlantis then the old router. The IP address of Atlantis is 192.168.0.71 and the IP address of the old router is 192.168.101 Here are some bits a pices that might be usefull: NOT VIA OLD ROUTER: [ian@atlantis:~] %netstat -r -f inet Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 212.104.130.202 UGS 0 456 tun0 localhost localhost UH 0 11 lo0 192.168.0 link#1 UC 0 0 sis0 192.168.0.1 00:0c:6e:fa:17:cd UHLW 0 845 sis0 1024 192.168.0.2 00:01:03:86:8d:3e UHLW 0 28 sis0 1000 212.104.130.202 82.152.149.159 UH 1 8 tun0 [ian@atlantis:~] %ifconfig sis0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=8 inet 192.168.0.71 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 inet6 fe80::2d0:9ff:fe85:c328%sis0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:d0:09:85:c3:28 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active plip0: flags=108810 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 tun0: flags=8051 mtu 1500 inet 82.152.149.159 --> 212.104.130.202 netmask 0xffffffff Opened by PID 413 [ian@atlantis:~] %sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding net.inet.ip.forwarding: 1 [ian@atlantis:~] %uname -a FreeBSD atlantis.pegasus 5.3-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p2 #2: Tue Dec 21 22:22:43 GMT 2004 root@atlantis.pegasus:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL i386 VIA OLD ROUTER: [ian@atlantis:~] %netstat -r -f inet Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 192.168.0.101 UGS 0 436 sis0 localhost localhost UH 0 7 lo0 192.168.0 link#1 UC 0 0 sis0 192.168.0.1 00:0c:6e:fa:17:cd UHLW 0 434 sis0 947 192.168.0.2 00:01:03:86:8d:3e UHLW 0 3 sis0 903 192.168.0.101 00:e0:18:76:f7:7f UHLW 1 0 sis0 984 [ian@atlantis:~] %ifconfig sis0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=8 inet 192.168.0.71 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 inet6 fe80::2d0:9ff:fe85:c328%sis0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:d0:09:85:c3:28 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active plip0: flags=108810 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 [ian@atlantis:~] %sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding net.inet.ip.forwarding: 1 A TRACEROUT FROM ANTHER MACHINE (when using old router): C:\Documents and Settings\Paul>tracert www.bbc.co.uk Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.224.121] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.71 2 9 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.101 3 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms 212.104.130.202 4 16 ms 18 ms 15 ms 81.5.191.113 5 16 ms 16 ms 17 ms ge1-1-core4.th.eclipse.net.uk [81.5.191.2] 6 17 ms 16 ms 15 ms 212.58.238.209 7 17 ms 15 ms 16 ms 212.58.238.153 8 19 ms 19 ms 18 ms www21.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.121] Trace complete. A TRACEROUT FROM ANTHER MACHINE (not old router): C:\Documents and Settings\Paul>tracert www.bbc.co.uk Unable to resolve target system name www.bbc.co.uk. C:\Documents and Settings\Paul>tracert 212.58.224.121 Tracing route to 212.58.224.121 over a maximum of 30 hops 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.71 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 * * * Request timed out. 4 * * * Request timed out. 5 * * * Request timed out. 6 * * * Request timed out. etc..... Please CC to me as I am not subscribed t this list. Thanks in advance for any ideas/help/kicks in the right direction. -- /Xian "Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud. After a while, you realise the pig is enjoying it." Unknown Author From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 13:41:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D2916A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:41:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1918843D46 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:41:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from koos@kzdoos.xs4all.nl) Received: from uucp1.xs4all.nl (uucp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.21.51]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBMDfr9k098208 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:41:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from koos@kzdoos.xs4all.nl) Received: from uucp1.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by uucp1.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBMDfrdp052249 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:41:53 +0100 (CET) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uucp1.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id iBMDfrYR052248 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:41:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from kzdoos.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1])iBMDfnfh002942 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:41:49 +0100 Received: (from koos@localhost)iBMDfnWs002939 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:41:49 +0100 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:41:49 +0100 From: Koos van den Hout To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041222134149.GA2629@kzdoos.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wac7ysb48OaltWcw" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Zen: Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm X-Files: the truth is out there X-Food-Label: May contain traces of nuts Organization: Koos van den Hout private node X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). 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X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: 5.3 buildworld fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:41:56 -0000 --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I guess I managed to get into a circular dependency problem ;) I have a machine, running at the moment FreeBSD master.idefix.net 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Tue Nov 9 22:49:23 CET 2004 bofh@master.idefix.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IDEFIX i386 I cvsupped the source to RELENG_5_3, and am trying to do a buildworld (after a buildkernel). But, it fails at a known place: cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -DMAKE_VERSION=3D\"5200408120\" -D__FBSDID=3D__RCSID -DDEFSHELL=3D1 -static -o make arch.o buf.o compat.o cond.o dir.o for.o hash.o job.o main.o make.o parse.o str.o suff.o targ.o util.o var.o var_modify.o lstAppend.o lstAtEnd.o lstAtFront.o lstClose.o lstConcat.o lstDatum.o lstDeQueue.o lstDestroy.o lstDupl.o lstEnQueue.o lstFind.o lstFindFrom.o lstFirst.o lstForEach.o lstForEachFrom.o lstInit.o lstInsert.o lstIsAtEnd.o lstIsEmpty.o lstLast.o lstMember.o lstNext.o lstOpen.o lstRemove.o lstReplace.o lstSucc.o=20 /usr/lib/crt1.o: In function `_start': /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): undefined reference to `_init_tls' *** Error code 1 Searching for solutions using google, I found 'rebuild your libc using cd /= usr/src/lib/libc && make obj && make depend && make all && make install' wh= ich gives the error: -O -pipe -mcpu=3Dpentiumpro -I/usr/src/lib/libc/include -I/usr/src/lib/libc/../../include -I/usr/src/lib/libc/i386 -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -I/usr/src/lib/libc/../../contrib/gdtoa -DINET6 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc/locale -DBROKEN_DES -DPORTMAP -DDES_BUILTIN -I/usr/src/lib/libc/rpc -DYP -DHESIOD -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -c nslexer.c /dev/stdout: In function `_nsyylex': /dev/stdout:711: warning: label `find_rule' defined but not used /usr/src/lib/libc/net/nslexer.l: At top level: /dev/stdout:1678: warning: `yy_flex_realloc' defined but not used *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib/libc. The next suggestion I find is 'rebuild yacc' .. which fails with _init_tls or 'rebuild lex' which points back at '_init_tls'. A nice circulair dependency. Any way to get out of this? I already re-cvsupped from a clear /usr/src. Koos --=20 Koos van den Hout, PGP keyid RSA/1024 0xCA845CB5 via keyservers koos@kzdoos.xs4all.nl or DSS/1024 0xF0D7C263 = -?) Fax +31-30-2817051 Camp Wireless, wireless Internet access = /\\ http://idefix.net/~koos/ at campsites http://www.camp-wireless.org/ _= \_V --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: P1ny+fujlqDmgtKF3mnWl8kpF+N+9BFA iQA/AwUBQcl5nCxmO13w18JjEQLhOgCg562/R4/4b/b8TxiEtND2KMleKeUAoLj1 c7T5jSYNZAyVQNLvDiSzSc0u =2+0O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wac7ysb48OaltWcw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 13:50:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497F216A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:50:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF9443D5C for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:50:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so43021wra for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:50:18 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=kDY7Wmy17rHS9x8/0V8nfpd8wq9yKh9q2rcehBC1F6j/usU5JwCntwSUYj9NhRYdwS1HFn+lIzAW9+jrQMaVzWlzkKfkrXmb/7adTPCCIl9vC+P7fNkQgmv13cHVJxEk2qDmpcypDuuctadeeUS2AqJqKW6NieYwhqGT8OoSYGc= Received: by 10.54.42.17 with SMTP id p17mr278057wrp; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:50:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:50:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:50:18 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: J65nko BSD In-Reply-To: <19861fba04122117477ff11204@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41C8A282.8010203@nerdshack.com> <19861fba04122117477ff11204@mail.gmail.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desperate for Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:50:19 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:47:19 +0100, J65nko BSD wrote: > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:24:02 -0500, alfredo perez > wrote: > > Heloo list > > > > I have been trying to set up my FreeBSD 5.3 to get my emails with no > > results. I have installed and set up Mutt, Ssmtp and Fetchmail. None of > > them are working properly. I have no idea where to start first. I have > > already read the man pages and followed several how-tos I found on the > > internet but no results. I was wondering if any of you know of a web > > site with steps that I can follow to sep up my Mutt, fetchmail and > > ssmtp. I dont want to give up on this!!! > > > > THANKS > > Start with fetchmail. You need a ".fetchmailrc" file in your home > directory. Some examples > > poll pop.domain2.com protocol POP3 timeout 60 no dns > user "loginname" password 'poppassword' is homedirowner here, > options fetchall fetchlimit 0 > > poll pop3.domain.com protocol POP3 > user "loginname@domain.com" password "poppasswd" is homedirowner here, > options fetchall > > As you can see some ISP's require only your login name, others require > "loginname@domain.com". You can run "fetchmail -v" to see where you > get stuck. > > This is an example for googles gmail, using SSL > > poll pop.gmail.com protocol POP3 timeout 60 no dns > user "gmailname" password "gmailpassword" ssl is homdirowner here, > options fetchall fetchlimit 0 > > If you are new to all this MTA, MUA and SMTP thing, you could consider > to use Pine. mutt is nice but as a beginner Pine is probably easier to > understand and configure than mutt. Ah! If you want to learn to use Mutt, learn to use Mutt. Now that you've got an idea of how to setup fetchmail, you'll want to create a ~/.muttrc file. There are many, many sample .muttrc files online; Google is your friend. This is the example I worked from when I first setup Mutt: http://www.hserus.net/muttrc.html All I had to do to get Mutt working with ssmtp was to tell Mutt to use ssmtp in ~/.muttrc set sendmail="/path/to/ssmtp" HTH, -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 13:50:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D7B16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:50:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-09.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 74DB943D2D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:50:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from outsidefactor@iinet.net.au) Received: (qmail 1056 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2004 13:50:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tyr) (203.217.67.1) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 13:50:38 -0000 From: "Chris Martin" To: Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:49:40 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcToLRUcsCWsgaemQeO1LDu1vW0bLw== Message-Id: <20041222135039.74DB943D2D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: openh323 gatekeeper compile errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:50:41 -0000 I am trying to compile the port net/gatekeeper. OpenH323 and PWLib are already installed. gmake P_SHAREDLIB=0 opt gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/net/gatekeeper/work/openh323gk' c++ -DHAS_RADIUS -DHAS_WAITARQ=1 -DP_FREEBSD=503001 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -D_REENTRANT -Wall -DP_FREEBSD=503001 -DP_USE_PRAGMA -DPHAS_TEMPLATES -I/usr/ports/devel/pwlib/work/pwlib/include/ptlib/unix -I/usr/ports/devel/pwlib/work/pwlib/include -DPTRACING -I/usr/ports/net/gatekeeper/../openh323/work/openh323/include -DHAS_OSS -DMAJOR_VERSION=1 -DMINOR_VERSION=12 -DBUILD_NUMBER=0 -DNDEBUG -O -pipe -c radproto.cxx -o obj_FreeBSD_x86_r/radproto.o radproto.cxx: In constructor `RadiusAttr::RadiusAttr(unsigned char, const void*, PINDEX)': radproto.cxx:121: warning: right-hand operand of comma has no effect radproto.cxx: In constructor `RadiusAttr::RadiusAttr(const void*, PINDEX, int, unsigned char)': radproto.cxx:155: warning: right-hand operand of comma has no effect radproto.cxx: In member function `virtual BOOL RadiusAttr::Read(const void*, PINDEX)': radproto.cxx:390: warning: right-hand operand of comma has no effect radproto.cxx: In member function `virtual PObject::Comparison RadiusAttr::Compare(const PObject&) const': radproto.cxx:717: error: 'const class PObject' has no member named 'IsDescendant' radproto.cxx: In member function `BOOL RadiusPDU::SetAuthenticator(const void*)': radproto.cxx:979: warning: right-hand operand of comma has no effect radproto.cxx: In member function `virtual BOOL RadiusPDU::AppendAttribute(RadiusAttr*)': radproto.cxx:1021: warning: right-hand operand of comma has no effect radproto.cxx: In member function `virtual BOOL RadiusPDU::Read(const void*, PINDEX)': radproto.cxx:1123: warning: right-hand operand of comma has no effect radproto.cxx: In member function `virtual BOOL RadiusSocket::MakeRequest(const BYTE*, PINDEX, const PIPSocket::Address&, WORD, RadiusPDU*&)': radproto.cxx:1358: warning: right-hand operand of comma has no effect radproto.cxx: In member function `BOOL RadiusClient::GetSocket(RadiusSocket*&, unsigned char&)': radproto.cxx:2266: warning: comparison is always true due to limited range of data type gmake[1]: *** [obj_FreeBSD_x86_r/radproto.o] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/net/gatekeeper/work/openh323gk' gmake: *** [optnoshared] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/net/gatekeeper. I have tried this on two systems: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p2 #0 and 5.3-RELEASE #3. The p2 machine has openh323-v1_15_2 and pwlib-v1_8_3 form the sorceforge site and the other as openh323-1.12.0_4 and pwlib-1.5.0_5,1, built from ports. They both get exactly the same compile error. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to resolve this? Chris Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 13:51:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D6F16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:51:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail3.speakeasy.net (mail3.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB96343D48 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:51:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 24225 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2004 13:51:10 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Dec 2004 13:51:10 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id C078644; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:51:09 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Mike Jeays References: <1103680952.33623.2.camel@chaucer> <16840.55078.815394.941348@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <1103685781.33623.9.camel@chaucer> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 22 Dec 2004 08:51:09 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1103685781.33623.9.camel@chaucer> Message-ID: <44is6utp9u.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 41 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: Robert Huff cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Copying a directory hierarchy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:51:11 -0000 Mike Jeays writes: > On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 21:08, Robert Huff wrote: > > Mike Jeays writes: > > > > > How does on copy a complete directory hierarchy, including any hidden > > > files? > > > > > > "cp -rp" leaves them out. > > > > cp -rp * > > cp -rp .* > This doesn't copy hidden files in lower-level directories, only in the > top level. Thanks for the suggestion - a good idea that doesn't quite > do it. It works for me... temp> type -a rm rm is /bin/rm temp> mkdir -p a/b/c/d/e temp> touch a/b/c/d/.hidden a/b/c/d/e/.hidden-too temp> cp -r a f temp> find a f a a/b a/b/c a/b/c/d a/b/c/d/e a/b/c/d/e/.hidden-too a/b/c/d/.hidden f f/b f/b/c f/b/c/d f/b/c/d/e f/b/c/d/e/.hidden-too f/b/c/d/.hidden temp> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 13:54:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444DC16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:54:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp16.wxs.nl (smtp16.wxs.nl [195.121.6.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C42143D31 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:54:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marco@beishuizen.info) Received: from tsunami.bsd (ipd50a233c.speed.planet.nl [213.10.35.60]) by smtp16.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I9400898MMZ7F@smtp16.wxs.nl> for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:54:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:54:35 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen In-reply-to: <41C974EF.8020002@uni-mainz.de> Sender: marco@tsunami.bsd To: "O. Hartmann" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT FreeBSD: Homepage: References: <41C974EF.8020002@uni-mainz.de> cc: FreeBSD questions mailing list Subject: Re: fsck locks up SMP system (5.3-REL) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:54:41 -0000 On stardate Wed, 22 Dec 2004, the wise O. Hartmann entered: > Please try to boot your system in single user mode (type '4' in the start > screen, where the countdown can be watched) > an do a 'fsck -y'. Then watch whether your box gets stuck or. > If it also get stuck in single user mode, please report again. I'm very > interestes in this! Thanks for the reply, In single user mode it didn't get stuck and it looks like it repaired some things. In the /usr, /home and /var filesystems "lost+found" directories were created with some files in them. Also a "fsck_snapshot"-file was created in /home/.snap/ Now I'm curious what to do with the files in the lost+found directories; can I delete them safely or do I have to do something with it? Are the filesystems really repaired and ok again or will the system crash some day because some files are still broken? The system works again but I'm not very confident it stays this way. I'm thinking of installing 4.10-R again. Marco -- "When you are in it up to your ears, keep your mouth shut." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 14:01:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E3816A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:01:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from safeco.hostingservice.net (safeco.hostingservice.net [209.150.128.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438B143D39 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:01:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adam@jamradar.com) Received: from PANASONIULSWMR (c-67-176-199-73.client.comcast.net [67.176.199.73])iBME1Cu31820 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:01:12 -0600 Message-ID: <000d01c4e82e$b12295f0$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> From: "Adam" To: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:01:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Webserver MOP Help (Method of Procedure) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:01:14 -0000 I'm brand new to FreeBSD and I'm learning it in preparation for getting = a dedicated server. I'm making a MOP so I can quickly setup a server = and not waste the $99/month I'm paying by experimenting I'd publish the MOP so other newbies could easily set up their own = webserver. I was wondering if anyone would want to help check my MOP and give = recommendations. I'd make it in MS Office XP since that's the only OS = on my only computer. Please email me if you're interested. The MOP will setup a webserver with: MySQL 4.1 PHP 5.0.3 Perl 5.8.6 PostgreSQL 7.4.6 phpmyadmin 2.5.0 sendmail ssh pop3 http://www.gplhost.com/ and cvsup updates and portupdate notifications. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 14:06:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9225516A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:06:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.178.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1772B43D1D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:06:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@uni-mainz.de) Received: from [134.93.183.16] (edda.Geo.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.183.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445C83000487; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:06:19 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C97F72.4030409@uni-mainz.de> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:06:42 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Institut =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr_Geophysik?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; de-AT; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041113 X-Accept-Language: de-de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marco Beishuizen References: <41C974EF.8020002@uni-mainz.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at uni-mainz.de cc: FreeBSD questions mailing list Subject: Re: fsck locks up SMP system (5.3-REL) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:06:20 -0000 Marco Beishuizen schrieb: > On stardate Wed, 22 Dec 2004, the wise O. Hartmann entered: > >> Please try to boot your system in single user mode (type '4' in the >> start screen, where the countdown can be watched) >> an do a 'fsck -y'. Then watch whether your box gets stuck or. >> If it also get stuck in single user mode, please report again. I'm >> very interestes in this! > > > Thanks for the reply, > > In single user mode it didn't get stuck and it looks like it repaired > some things. In the /usr, /home and /var filesystems "lost+found" > directories were created with some files in them. Also a > "fsck_snapshot"-file was created in /home/.snap/ > > Now I'm curious what to do with the files in the lost+found > directories; can I delete them safely or do I have to do something > with it? Are the filesystems really repaired and ok again or will the > system crash some day because some files are still broken? > > The system works again but I'm not very confident it stays this way. > I'm thinking of installing 4.10-R again. > > Marco > Dear Marco. Thanks. In my case, FreeBSD 5.3 dies in single user mode on nearly each disk activity (it is obviously a FreeBSD 5.3-issue with my ASUS CUR-DLS based system). Please take a look at fsck_ffs(8) man page. There is at the end of the description of the options an explanation of the lost+find facility. Obviously orphaned files and directories (and in most cases those which are expected to be some of them) are gathered and reconnected in lost+found. My 'periodic' cron-job deletes the contents of lost+found every 7 days. Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 14:31:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C6016A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:31:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.mail.ru (mx2.mail.ru [194.67.23.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9FA43D46 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:31:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scream2002@mail.ru) Received: from [213.140.112.11] (port=1386 helo=CELERON) by mx2.mail.ru with esmtp id 1Ch7WC-000Oi8-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:31:12 +0300 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:31:14 +0500 From: =?Windows-1251?B?xOjs7u0=?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.11.02) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <197572706.20041222193114@mail.ru> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam: Not detected Subject: I have an offer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: wade List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:31:14 -0000 Hello! I have an offer for you. Now access to the Internet with use of satellites gets the big popularity. For such type of access it is necessary to use special DVB-cards like SkyStar-1 and SkyStar-2. First of them is supported by FreeBSD (due to foreign people), but second (cheaper and popular) is not. Can you include official support for this cards in the next FreeBSD releases? :-D Please! -- WBR, wade wade@r66.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 14:53:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8043516A4CF for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:53:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp17.wxs.nl (smtp17.wxs.nl [195.121.6.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE4943D45 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:53:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marco@beishuizen.info) Received: from tsunami.bsd (ipd50a233c.speed.planet.nl [213.10.35.60]) by smtp17.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I94002J0PCMDR@smtp17.wxs.nl> for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:53:10 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:53:10 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen In-reply-to: <41C97F72.4030409@uni-mainz.de> Sender: marco@tsunami.bsd To: "O. Hartmann" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT FreeBSD: Homepage: References: <41C974EF.8020002@uni-mainz.de> <41C97F72.4030409@uni-mainz.de> cc: FreeBSD questions mailing list Subject: Re: fsck locks up SMP system (5.3-REL) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:53:12 -0000 On stardate Wed, 22 Dec 2004, the wise O. Hartmann entered: > Dear Marco. > Thanks. In my case, FreeBSD 5.3 dies in single user mode on nearly each disk > activity (it is obviously a FreeBSD 5.3-issue with > my ASUS CUR-DLS based system). > > Please take a look at fsck_ffs(8) man page. There is at the end of the > description of the options an explanation of the lost+find facility. > Obviously orphaned files and directories (and in most cases those which are > expected to be some of them) are gathered and reconnected in lost+found. My > 'periodic' cron-job deletes the contents of lost+found every 7 days. > Oliver Well the problem didn't dissappear. I was just checking the filesystem with the midnight commander, and suddenly mc froze in "ufs"-state. Now I'm running fsck again. -- Idiot Box, n.: The part of the envelope that tells a person where to place the stamp when they can't quite figure it out for themselves. -- Rich Hall, "Sniglets" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 14:54:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0775916A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:54:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wildbean.clapper.org (wildbean.clapper.org [216.158.26.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E407543D54 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:54:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bmc@clapper.org) Received: from condor.inside.clapper.org (phantom@condor.inside.clapper.org [172.16.87.5]) by wildbean.clapper.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBMEsVqK033448; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:54:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from z.inside.clapper.org (z.inside.clapper.org [172.16.87.2]) iBMEsUSj008823; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:54:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200412221454.iBMEsUSj008823@condor.inside.clapper.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:54:30 -0500 From: Brian Clapper To: RL In-Reply-To: References: <20041222035615.GA10180@gamerasmog.com> <1103688155.7511.11.camel@server1> <41C8F39A.30104@makeworld.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-Face: /perrud9r1.|7j.*=/6)a%vZ$^sBn!P[?+}vWBxd1ps{4hd2ZOw8]u&t';}(kj=x; JpdSF7 1b<*T{.38]wnWl]j/ULRB*49qdsET_/)-siUd7A_n- List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:54:33 -0000 On 21 December, 2004, at 23:12 (-0500) RL wrote: > What's the most popular option? Is it buying a business DSL or T1 > service or is it to colocate it? All of them are pricey. :( Depending on where you are, you may have other options as well. I'm in the Philadelphia, PA, area. I have a somewhat non-standard DSL arrangement that works very well for me. Verizon supplies the wire and the DSL signal (as well as my local phone service), but I use someone else--a so-called Verizon partner ISP--as my ISP. My ISP handles all the billing, and they will give me up to 5 static IP addresses. (I currently use 2.) I provide my own forward DNS, SMTP and HTTP services. My ISP has no problem providing me with DNS PTR records for the assigned IPs; doing a "dig -x" on the address returned for my domain's MX address yields a PTR record that refers back to my domain. If, for some reason, I want to change the PTR record, I simply drop them an email; they usually take care of it within in hour or so. If I want another static IP address, the procedure and turnaround time are comparable. There *is* a small price for this extra functionality: I pay about $10-$15 more per month than if I were to go with a "native" Verizon DSL set up. I pay $44.95/month for 1.5Mbps/384Kbps ADSL. For native Verizon, a month-to-month plan is $34.95/mo, and a plan with a 1-year commitment is $29.95/month. But Verizon will not give me static IPs for that price; the extra monthly cost is worth it to me. I have had this arrangment for almost 5 years; 5 years ago, the monthly cost was higher and the bandwidth was lower. The cost and bandwidth have only improved over time. Shop around, if you can. There may be other providers of DSL service in your area who provide more "enlightened" service options. Regards, Brian Clapper, http://www.clapper.org/bmc/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 15:18:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B16716A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:18:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kende.com (ns1.kende.com [66.17.131.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20B8043D2F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:18:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andras@kende.com) Received: (qmail 23638 invoked by uid 0); 22 Dec 2004 15:18:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO a) (24.1.129.219) by ns1.kende.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 15:18:18 -0000 From: "Andras Kende" To: , Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:18:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcToHBTddCWTZKC0T8iE35xFKVMTrwAG28NA Message-Id: <20041222151815.20B8043D2F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: RE: DNS TTL problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:18:15 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Mark Frasa Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 5:48 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: DNS TTL problem Hello, I am using a djbdns DNS server which operates almost perfect. There is 1 small problem, i have for my domain frasa.net 2 namservers: frasa.net. 3600 IN NS ns1.frasa.net. frasa.net. 3600 IN NS ns2.frasa.net. This is when i resolve directly on ns1.frasa.net or ns2.frasa.net When I resolve on my ISP's nameserver and serveral others: frasa.net. 172800 IN NS ns1.frasa.net. frasa.net. 172800 IN NS ns2.frasa.net. The problem is that this is a TTL of 2 days. When i Trace the dig, is see that the root servers are providing the 2 days TTL: ;; Received 512 bytes from 198.32.64.12#53(l.root-servers.net) in 169 ms frasa.net. 172800 IN NS ns1.frasa.net. frasa.net. 172800 IN NS ns2.frasa.net. ;; Received 95 bytes from 192.42.93.30#53(G.GTLD-SERVERS.net) in 154 ms Can anyone explain this behaviour? Cheers Mark. _________________________________________________________ This mail sent using V-webmail - http://www.v-webmail.org _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hello Mark, This is absolutely normal... The 172800 is the parent servers (G.GTLD-SERVERS.net) for your NS records which is default... while 3600 is at your nameserver. Take a look here: http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnstime.ch?name=frasa.net&type=A http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=frasa.net Try dnsreport.com with some other domains you will see... Andras Kende http://www.kende.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 15:30:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87F516A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:30:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5815B43D5D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:30:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so88421wra for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:30:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Kem6gK1jGKP2NUJeTAO2jGN/Xtu3kiAXBH1OsnsOUGnQswH8RkaXqOGSHl9xJAQzFoJG35bRax07hlUtT0GYT7TI3HqsCmzACYRrZU6FYuUIHL7Sy/IR6IMEgE7NaUs/oKd+51aCKPzuus6Cnq3FGiE1nyvRyWragYU7kq4PrqU= Received: by 10.54.18.13 with SMTP id 13mr84949wrr; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:30:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.37.19 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:30:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19861fba04122207306235d1e4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:30:34 +0100 From: J65nko BSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Subject: Re: DNS TTL problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: J65nko BSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:30:39 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:47:34 +0100, Mark Frasa wrote: > Hello, > > I am using a djbdns DNS server which operates almost perfect. > > There is 1 small problem, i have for my domain frasa.net 2 namservers: > > frasa.net. 3600 IN NS ns1.frasa.net. > frasa.net. 3600 IN NS ns2.frasa.net. > > This is when i resolve directly on ns1.frasa.net or ns2.frasa.net > > When I resolve on my ISP's nameserver and serveral others: > > frasa.net. 172800 IN NS ns1.frasa.net. > frasa.net. 172800 IN NS ns2.frasa.net. > > The problem is that this is a TTL of 2 days. When i Trace the dig, is see that > the root servers are providing the 2 days TTL: > > ;; Received 512 bytes from 198.32.64.12#53(l.root-servers.net) in 169 ms > > frasa.net. 172800 IN NS ns1.frasa.net. > frasa.net. 172800 IN NS ns2.frasa.net. > ;; Received 95 bytes from 192.42.93.30#53(G.GTLD-SERVERS.net) in 154 ms > > Can anyone explain this behaviour? > Yes, you have something like this in your tinydns data file: .frasa.net:80.69.78.171:ns1.frasa.net:3600 .frasa.net:80.69.78.172:ns2.frasa.net:3600 If you change the 3600 into a higher number , like 172800 you will have the same TTL as the GTLD-SERVERS.net servers ;) == Adriaan === From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 15:32:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E18916A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:32:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web7.zoznam.sk (mail.zoznam.sk [62.65.179.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F8043D1F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:32:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from goosefreebsd@zoznam.sk) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by web7.zoznam.sk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBMEVhTZ045818 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:31:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from goosefreebsd@zoznam.sk) Message-Id: <200412221431.iBMEVhTZ045818@web7.zoznam.sk> Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:31:43 UT From: "goose bla" To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Zoznam Mailer v.1.2 X-Www-Freemail-Ip: 156.153.255.236 Subject: what can i delete from /usr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:32:30 -0000 hello,, please. i have not big hdd,, and i need to make free place. what can i remove from /usr and system will be OK ?=20 example: /usr/ports/distfiles/ - i can remove all files. in /usr/ports i can do=20 rm -rf \*/work/ i can remove=20 /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/* after reboot with new kernel. can i remove /usr/src/sys/amd64 or /alpha if a have i386 platform ? --- reklama ----------------------------------------------------- Nerozumiete niektor=C3=BDm slov=C3=AD=C4=8Dkam? http://slovnik.zoznam.sk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 15:40:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E48E16A4CF for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:40:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A36B43D31 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:40:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C686EBD658; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:40:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.0.7]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A49818A2C; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:40:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 10767-05; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:40:24 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.0.7 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.0.7; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.0.7]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB00189C3; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:40:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41C99565.3000008@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:40:21 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: goose bla References: <200412221431.iBMEVhTZ045818@web7.zoznam.sk> In-Reply-To: <200412221431.iBMEVhTZ045818@web7.zoznam.sk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Comment-1: GNU's Not Unix! X-Comment-2: Support FSF! X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: what can i delete from /usr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:40:38 -0000 Btw - why don't you type ... $ > make install clean ^^^^^ ... if compiling work? That way there woudn't be left over work directories. You don't need them anyway after a successfull port install. goose bla schrieb: > hello,, > > please. i have not big hdd,, and i need to make free place. what can i > remove from /usr and system will be OK ? > > example: > > /usr/ports/distfiles/ - i can remove all files. > > in /usr/ports i can do > rm -rf \*/work/ > > i can remove > /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/* after reboot with new kernel. > > can i remove /usr/src/sys/amd64 or /alpha if a have i386 platform ? > > > --- reklama ----------------------------------------------------- > Nerozumiete niektorým slovíčkam? > http://slovnik.zoznam.sk > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > !DSPAM:41c993a1248794181411352! > > -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l haischt@daniel.stefan.haischt.name From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 15:43:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878C016A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:43:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postbode01.zonnet.nl (postbode01.zonnet.nl [62.58.50.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D71743D53 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:43:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from f.staals@zonnet.nl) Received: (qmail 15896 invoked by uid 10); 22 Dec 2004 15:43:09 -0000 Received: (vexira-qq 15882-2829E1E2 invoked from network) 22 Dec 2004 16:43:09 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.2]) ([62.59.173.176]) (envelope-sender ) by postbode01.zonnet.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 22 Dec 2004 15:43:09 -0000 Message-ID: <41C9A412.6010107@zonnet.nl> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:42:58 +0000 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041109) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200412221431.iBMEVhTZ045818@web7.zoznam.sk> In-Reply-To: <200412221431.iBMEVhTZ045818@web7.zoznam.sk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira MailArmor (version: 2.0.1.16; VAE: 6.29.0.5; VDF: 6.29.0.30; host: postbode01.zonnet.nl) cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: what can i delete from /usr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:43:12 -0000 goose bla wrote: >hello,, > >please. i have not big hdd,, and i need to make free place. what can i >remove from /usr and system will be OK ? > >example: > >/usr/ports/distfiles/ - i can remove all files. > >in /usr/ports i can do >rm -rf \*/work/ > > > I bet you install your ports by doing a 'make install', if you do, you can probably better make an 'make install distclean' with the distclean option turned on, it automatically removes the ~/work/ directory's and the distfiles in /usr/ports/distfiles/. If you want to keep your distfiles you can just do 'make install distclean' >i can remove >/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/* after reboot with new kernel. > >can i remove /usr/src/sys/amd64 or /alpha if a have i386 platform ? > > >--- reklama ----------------------------------------------------- >Nerozumiete niektorým slovíčkam? >http://slovnik.zoznam.sk >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > About the part of /usr/src/sys/ it seems reasonable to me to remove amd64 or alpha but I wouldn't know, you might try it but backup the dirs first Frank Staals From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 15:49:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFE216A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:49:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B5F43D41 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:49:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so158wri for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:49:29 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ltMdBKAgcgrOL1Ip/lrklu3lPrV+WUzVL0VWvMNxwCci0ZtdB7Mh//HKYxfDSrqplXPJOmZ2j4LNipUN9SG4ruxQoPFn2QalD3DjbpVi9IwYyY6jzPXXrw1F0acf6s8Cdx4y/OQplTeigmJE2TIHnGZCXleKdSwAgYMjuscRtt4= Received: by 10.54.27.29 with SMTP id a29mr31776wra; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:39:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:39:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:39:59 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: goose bla In-Reply-To: <200412221431.iBMEVhTZ045818@web7.zoznam.sk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200412221431.iBMEVhTZ045818@web7.zoznam.sk> cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what can i delete from /usr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:49:42 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:31:43 UT, goose bla wrote: > hello,, > > please. i have not big hdd,, and i need to make free place. what can i > remove from /usr and system will be OK ? > > example: > > /usr/ports/distfiles/ - i can remove all files. > > in /usr/ports i can do > rm -rf \*/work/ > > i can remove > /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/* after reboot with new kernel. > > can i remove /usr/src/sys/amd64 or /alpha if a have i386 platform ? Yes. In fact, if you have tuned your kernel to your liking, you can just as well do: # rm -r /usr/src/sys And if you don't plan to rebuild the system anytime soon, you could remove even more: # rm -r /usr/src/* Other candidates for removal on my /usr partition are: /usr/games - this server don't need no stinking games! /usr/sup - I keep my cvsup stuff elsewhere And, you can remove old cruft from /usr/obj, like: # chflags -R noschg /usr/obj # rm -rf /usr/obj/* HTH, -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 16:53:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95EF016A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:53:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from joint.crazylogic.net (joint.crazylogic.net [66.207.217.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9B243D49 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:53:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pervert@pervertfiles.com) Received: from haklot ([66.207.217.141]) by joint.crazylogic.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id iBLGrUXH079456 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:53:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from pervert@pervertfiles.com) Message-ID: <00c201c4e77d$9b442840$c901a8c0@haklot> From: "Pervert Files" To: Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:53:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:52:19 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Archos Studio 20 support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:53:33 -0000 I can't seem to get my Archos Studio 20 to work. I have a friend that = got his Archos Recorder to work .. and I'm doing the same thing as he = is. Has anyone else gotten the Studio to work? Thanks, The Perv pervert@pervertfiles.com http://www.pervertfiles.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 21 18:56:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4FDE16A4CE for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:56:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E79F43D41 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:56:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leonmk@optonline.net) Received: from D1TWQX41 (ool-18b93da2.dyn.optonline.net [24.185.61.162]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <0I9300CCY5Y0YI@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:56:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:56:18 -0500 From: Leon To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <000601c4e78e$c13ed7f0$a23db918@D1TWQX41> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:52:19 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: VIM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:56:26 -0000 Hi, I have installed a VIM editor. When I create a new file with this editor, I can't type anything. What is wrong. Thanks, Leon. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 15:21:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C3516A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:21:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from joint.crazylogic.net (joint.crazylogic.net [66.207.217.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E5A43D58 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:21:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pervert@pervertfiles.com) Received: from haklot ([66.207.217.141]) by joint.crazylogic.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id iBMFLlXH094424 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:21:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from pervert@pervertfiles.com) Message-ID: <00f601c4e839$f69e35c0$c901a8c0@haklot> From: "Pervert Files" To: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:21:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:52:19 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: best newsgroup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:21:50 -0000 Hello, What is the best newsgroup to read freebsd question. = muc.lists.freebsd.questions doesn't seem to be updating with anything on = my news provider. -- Thanks, Jason pervert@pervertfiles.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 15:57:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6FF716A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:57:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F9BF43D48 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:57:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so2028wri for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:57:57 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=W3d679/j2e1udE82gcqh/Xdt7GpBa9TdyqXIdTjeF6XoPorL30wH/RyaZmhpNd31s9+T/JwIvEfP40h9gbYS6zgLCLgdFxtuthnW81ydqfWrQbdAj+OBTovT+39iqixKvXSvJBJ6jTF2QvN8IFiua5gnQ/BDkIQx7DB36IPC9KU= Received: by 10.54.42.56 with SMTP id p56mr12099wrp; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:57:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.4.73 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 07:57:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <72cf361e04122207572cf9a8c5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:57:56 +0000 From: Martin Hepworth To: Leon In-Reply-To: <000601c4e78e$c13ed7f0$a23db918@D1TWQX41> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <000601c4e78e$c13ed7f0$a23db918@D1TWQX41> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VIM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Hepworth List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:57:59 -0000 you need to get into insert mode first - press 'i' the basic functions of vim are the same as 'vi' so you might want to get a starter guid for that.. -- Martin On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:56:18 -0500, Leon wrote: > Hi, > > I have installed a VIM editor. > When I create a new file with this editor, I can't type anything. > What is wrong. > > Thanks, > Leon. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 16:08:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8E716A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:08:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com (cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com [204.174.223.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5229E43D60 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:08:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from comm@rwx.ca) Received: from dean (S0106000ea67c0d69.vc.shawcable.net [24.80.111.64]) by cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9891AE028 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:08:16 -0800 (PST) From: "comm/JT" To: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:13:40 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-index: AcTn6jmoKA9BLNrlSZayiUxzlPvWtA== Message-Id: <20041222160816.9891AE028@cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com> Subject: REPOST: TAR and SCSI Tape Drive Troubles. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:08:17 -0000 Hello, I never had a subject in my last post, so I am posting this again, sorry. I have recently installed a SCSI tape drive in my FBSD box: Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle sa0 at sym0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15) I then tried to actually put some files on the tape using tar and had the following message in 'demsg': Dec 21 10:38:11 taco kernel: (sa0:sym0:0:6:0): lost device Dec 21 10:38:11 taco kernel: (sa0:sym0:0:6:0): failed to write terminating filemark(s) Dec 21 10:38:12 taco kernel: (sa0:sym0:0:6:0): tape is now frozen- use an OFFLINE, REWIND or MTEOM command to clear this state. Dec 21 10:38:12 taco kernel: (sa0:sym0:0:6:0): removing device entry I have no clue how to add the device entry again, I tried rebooting the box. I even tried some commands with 'devfs'... and got no where. Any ideas... Thanks. ====== -JT From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 16:09:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B64B16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:09:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB5B43D2D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:09:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so129wra for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:09:13 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=DN7fQZhCOeaGyU6noBMswY66U1exU+fdgRj2dGAxy8zNeHeWTXhBy2UVFgZDner8WsqAzU+njz6SxWT7o5Eri4GhUWrALydQUcpDGSZdAJ0cICYpsF8oPr3F9SFdW8aUpHbvuCbyHq8otoD1iTjvS9sMeHU2ptV3+MXQvygjMx8= Received: by 10.54.44.61 with SMTP id r61mr73223wrr; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:09:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:09:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:09:12 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Frank Staals In-Reply-To: <41C9A412.6010107@zonnet.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200412221431.iBMEVhTZ045818@web7.zoznam.sk> <41C9A412.6010107@zonnet.nl> cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what can i delete from /usr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:09:20 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:42:58 +0000, Frank Staals wrote: > goose bla wrote: > > >hello,, > > > >please. i have not big hdd,, and i need to make free place. what can i > >remove from /usr and system will be OK ? > > > >example: > > > >/usr/ports/distfiles/ - i can remove all files. > > > >in /usr/ports i can do > >rm -rf \*/work/ > > > > > > > I bet you install your ports by doing a 'make install', if you do, you > can probably better make an 'make install distclean' with the distclean > option turned on, it automatically removes the ~/work/ directory's and > the distfiles in /usr/ports/distfiles/. If you want to keep your > distfiles you can just do 'make install distclean' ^^^^^^^ Ack! If you want to keep your distfiles, you can just do: # make install clean -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 16:12:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F72816A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:12:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms05.mailstreet2003.net (MS05.mailstreet2003.net [63.251.155.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4322343D49 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:12:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@sigd.net) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:12:44 -0500 Message-ID: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC2202BA362A@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: My server goes down and I do not know why Thread-Index: AcToGV0q26/qiE9hRjuPpoRbUWpfswAJ5Hmg From: "Haulmark, Chris" To: , Subject: RE: My server goes down and I do not know why X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:12:57 -0000 Someone broke the silence:=20 > Hi my name is Phill. I am having an issue with my freebsd > webserver that > is behind a freebsd nat/firewall and was wondering if you can > point me the > right way to resolve my issue. My connection to my ISP (microwave > wi-fi) keeps dying every couple days and I do not know where to start > to determine the issue. What are the basic diagnostic steps for > determining why my connection keeps dying every couple days? I do not > know if it is a > problem with the wifi, routing, or nat. If it is a problem w/ > wifi i want > to compile a bunch of info to bring to isp to be like 'you > idiots are not > upholding sla!' and if it is my internal configuration I would like to > simply resolve the issue. What is necessary for me to do for > assistance in this issue? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I would just install a bandwidth graphing software. mrtg, cacti, or something else to graph up the usage of the bandwidth. = You can give them access when you discover some potential problems. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 16:13:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D72016A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:13:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao04.cox.net (lakermmtao04.cox.net [68.230.240.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906F243D55 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:13:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bagus@cox.net) Received: from bagus ([24.252.103.174]) by lakermmtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with SMTP id <20041222161331.TDSM22354.lakermmtao04.cox.net@bagus> for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:13:31 -0500 From: "Bagus" To: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:20:21 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Subject: how to get it online X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:13:40 -0000 Hi, I hope this mailing list can help. I just installed freebsd 5.3-Release onto a new hard drive and I can't seem to get it online with my dhcp cable modem thru a linksys hub. Later it will be moving to a static ip, so any help with that transition now would be helpful too, but for now I have the machine at home and need to install software on it. If I give a >ifconfig fxp0: flags =8802 mtu 1500 options =8 ether 00:a0:c9:e6:11:b1 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status:active there's plip0 and lo0 as well... >ping freebsd.org ping: cannot resolve freebsd.org: Host name lookup failure. As an aside, I'm stunned this isn't a FAQ or part of the freebsd manual: "How to get your computer online". Really I'd rather not be posting this question to a mailing list. It seems so basic, yet I can't find an answer out there. If anyone has any references, I'd appreciate it. Thanks Bagus From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 16:14:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE8316A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:14:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7FE243D58 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:13:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so90wri for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:13:59 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=rMlrktjk+twHm2MUg/bOpZ5Hvk83a/Wj/ogeKNpbL70dl9Mtw+yuXNh5QmS862wt8cGrlx/CMOae9t9FEwpbFVUwdbpot2S6gHaiTCS3D+FAOT6K8+ibTB+FcUacQRQnYJl6yR5+MPWWH8e9O5z5WnkuDSF/1bNZadYSjCBf+As= Received: by 10.54.44.34 with SMTP id r34mr10620wrr; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:13:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:13:19 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Leon In-Reply-To: <000601c4e78e$c13ed7f0$a23db918@D1TWQX41> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <000601c4e78e$c13ed7f0$a23db918@D1TWQX41> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VIM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:14:00 -0000 On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:56:18 -0500, Leon wrote: > Hi, > > I have installed a VIM editor. > When I create a new file with this editor, I can't type anything. > What is wrong. Probably nothing. If you are, indeed, new to the vi editor, then you have a steep learning curve ahead of you, and you'll want to do some reading and use one of the many vi tutorials online to get your head around how this editor works, because it is absolutely not intuitive. Some good starting points are: 'man vi(1)' http://www.unb.ca/documentation/UNIX/tips/vim/ http://www.apmaths.uwo.ca/~xli/vim/vim_tutorial.html http://www.lecb.ncifcrf.gov/~toms/vi.html -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 16:14:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699D916A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:14:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D520043D2F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:14:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so1795rne for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:14:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:x-mimeole:in-reply-to:message-id; b=miu8fWhmSXzBUqpcbHJHY6LkcBRyD63hWyvNNyzMy74QK0a2WaLywFEf+gQmN1W3Jr62W3S40vB6sqSsqahnkEfptw7cv8i2fD+CwQEhSrlZnIQJ3GExxGIzMBITbyIWOPgVHkZ0p3pxi1upnc4JKe7hy6Z3i53/Gv8IBUEWqUY= Received: by 10.38.72.69 with SMTP id u69mr616093rna; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:14:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from phoenix ([220.225.80.140]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTP id 75sm189012rnb.2004.12.22.08.14.00; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:14:02 -0800 (PST) From: "Subhro" To: "'Koos van den Hout'" , Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:43:53 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C4E85B.14C5ECC0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-index: AcToLBO06qN8FGtLRgGHzEjQ7dlF6gAAN4gg X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 In-Reply-To: <20041222134149.GA2629@kzdoos.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <41c99d4a.2e17f2e1.07dc.1171@smtp.gmail.com> Subject: RE: 5.3 buildworld fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:14:21 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C4E85B.14C5ECC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Any non standard CFLAGS? Regards S. Indian Institute of Information Technology Subhro Sankha Kar Block AQ-13/1, Sector V Salt Lake City PIN 700091 India > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Koos van den Hout > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 19:12 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: 5.3 buildworld fails > > > I guess I managed to get into a circular dependency problem ;) > > I have a machine, running at the moment > > FreeBSD master.idefix.net 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Tue Nov 9 > 22:49:23 CET 2004 bofh@master.idefix.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IDEFIX > i386 > > I cvsupped the source to RELENG_5_3, and am trying to do a buildworld > (after a buildkernel). > > But, it fails at a known place: > > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -DMAKE_VERSION=\"5200408120\" > -D__FBSDID=__RCSID -DDEFSHELL=1 -static -o make arch.o buf.o compat.o > cond.o dir.o for.o hash.o job.o main.o make.o parse.o str.o suff.o targ.o > util.o var.o var_modify.o lstAppend.o lstAtEnd.o lstAtFront.o lstClose.o > lstConcat.o lstDatum.o lstDeQueue.o lstDestroy.o lstDupl.o lstEnQueue.o > lstFind.o lstFindFrom.o lstFirst.o lstForEach.o lstForEachFrom.o lstInit.o > lstInsert.o lstIsAtEnd.o lstIsEmpty.o lstLast.o lstMember.o lstNext.o > lstOpen.o lstRemove.o lstReplace.o lstSucc.o > /usr/lib/crt1.o: In function `_start': > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): undefined reference to `_init_tls' > *** Error code 1 > > Searching for solutions using google, I found 'rebuild your libc using cd > /usr/src/lib/libc && make obj && make depend && make all && make install' > which > gives the error: > > -O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro -I/usr/src/lib/libc/include > -I/usr/src/lib/libc/../../include -I/usr/src/lib/libc/i386 > -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -I/usr/src/lib/libc/../../contrib/gdtoa -DINET6 > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc/locale > -DBROKEN_DES -DPORTMAP -DDES_BUILTIN -I/usr/src/lib/libc/rpc -DYP -DHESIOD > -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -c > nslexer.c > /dev/stdout: In function `_nsyylex': > /dev/stdout:711: warning: label `find_rule' defined but not used > /usr/src/lib/libc/net/nslexer.l: At top level: > /dev/stdout:1678: warning: `yy_flex_realloc' defined but not used > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/lib/libc. > > The next suggestion I find is 'rebuild yacc' .. which fails with _init_tls > or 'rebuild lex' which points back at '_init_tls'. > > A nice circulair dependency. 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(Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D57743D49 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:16:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id iBMGGmX6058631; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:16:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:16:48 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: comm/JT Message-ID: <20041222161648.GA36639@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20041222160816.9891AE028@cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041222160816.9891AE028@cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: REPOST: TAR and SCSI Tape Drive Troubles. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:16:57 -0000 In the last episode (Dec 22), comm/JT said: > I have recently installed a SCSI tape drive in my FBSD box: > > Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle > sa0 at sym0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 > sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device > sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15) > > I then tried to actually put some files on the tape using tar and had the > following message in 'demsg': > > Dec 21 10:38:11 taco kernel: (sa0:sym0:0:6:0): lost device > Dec 21 10:38:11 taco kernel: (sa0:sym0:0:6:0): failed to write terminating filemark(s) > Dec 21 10:38:12 taco kernel: (sa0:sym0:0:6:0): tape is now frozen- use an OFFLINE, REWIND or MTEOM command to clear this state. > Dec 21 10:38:12 taco kernel: (sa0:sym0:0:6:0): removing device entry > > I have no clue how to add the device entry again, I tried rebooting the box. > I even tried some commands with 'devfs'... and got no where. The SCSI subsystem thinks the device has been disconnected; devfs can't put the /dev/ node back until you rescan the SCSI bus. Try running "camcontrol rescan all". -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 16:20:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B6F16A508 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:20:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A6143D4C for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:20:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so110wra for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:20:04 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=NGSEf6PykWXmlbAPecx7pk92dTqs5D/C6RtuFUAi7sJVU2k6leuheqYSN/S40pg0KbyX3veApSOXMaIaEA6SyHGLW8U1ail92Lo5aL6kqEZVDhhHVZ6UhbarSRvQ6mW4zePg5A+C+3MV4QDBWvrwpMSqbrkFGSvgYypWajLq55I= Received: by 10.54.57.70 with SMTP id f70mr24193wra; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:20:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:20:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:20:04 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Pervert Files In-Reply-To: <00f601c4e839$f69e35c0$c901a8c0@haklot> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <00f601c4e839$f69e35c0$c901a8c0@haklot> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best newsgroup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:20:36 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:21:46 -0500, Pervert Files wrote: > Hello, > > What is the best newsgroup to read freebsd question. > muc.lists.freebsd.questions doesn't seem to be updating > with anything on my news provider. Well, a google search on 'freebsd questions archives' shows: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-September/059184.html http://archive.pilgerer.org/mharc/html/freebsd-questions/ -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 16:20:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5CC16A4DF for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:20:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.orbitel.bg (smtp.orbitel.bg [195.24.32.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 49B3F43D7B for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:20:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from avenger@vip.bg) Received: (qmail 12621 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2004 16:20:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (10.0.0.4) by smtp.orbitel.bg with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 16:20:43 -0000 Received: from smtp.orbitel.bg ([10.0.0.3]) by localhost (sof-rv2.orbitel.bg [10.0.0.4]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 12084-22 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:19:42 +0200 (EET) Received: (qmail 12593 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2004 16:20:42 -0000 Received: from pppoe-20.techno-link.com (HELO apise6e37e23bb) (212.36.15.20) by smtp.orbitel.bg with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 16:20:42 -0000 Message-ID: <003501c4e842$2f46c830$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> From: "P. B. S." To: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:20:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="koi8-r"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2096 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2096 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at orbitel.bg Subject: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:20:50 -0000 How can I do that? explore2fs is for ext2/3 only. I want to copy files from my FreeBSD filesystem (UFS2, I think?) using Windows. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 16:25:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB1816A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:25:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms05.mailstreet2003.net (MS05.mailstreet2003.net [63.251.155.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E727B43D39 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:25:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@sigd.net) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:26:49 -0500 Message-ID: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC2202BA364E@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: I have an offer Thread-Index: AcToMxOIWR1IMmppQZGwjpayh92psQADtEtg From: "Haulmark, Chris" To: "wade" , Subject: RE: I have an offer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:25:39 -0000 Someone broke the silence:=20 > Hello! > I have an offer for you. > Now access to the Internet with use of satellites gets the big > popularity. For such type of access it is necessary to use special > DVB-cards like SkyStar-1 and SkyStar-2. First of them is supported by > FreeBSD (due to foreign people), but second (cheaper and popular) is > not. Can you include official support for this cards in the next > FreeBSD releases? :-D Please! I have used direcway satellite internet systems in the past. Their = support were only for Windows at that time I used direcway. I learned that for open source support, it would depend on getting = cooperation from the vendors for the FreeBSD developers to be able to = support a device. I do not think that here is the correct place to ask for support unless = there are already some development information for those devices = available. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 16:26:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30A316A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:26:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ion.franksworld.org (vhost.domainatlantic.com [67.18.185.244]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA37943D41 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:26:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from laszlof@vonostingroup.com) Received: (qmail 9921 invoked by uid 98); 22 Dec 2004 11:27:00 -0000 Received: from 68.72.248.38 by ion.franksworld.org (envelope-from , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.24 (clamdscan: 0.75.1. spamassassin: 3.0.1. Clear:RC:0(68.72.248.38):SA:0(3.2/5.0):. 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Processed in 12.497772 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO vonostingroup.com) (frank@franksworld.org@68.72.248.38) by vhost.domainatlantic.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 11:26:47 -0000 Message-ID: <41C99FF0.8060104@vonostingroup.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:25:20 -0500 From: Frank Laszlo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (Windows/20040207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jcazor@ya.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: problem with X in a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:26:34 -0000 > >the video card is a silicon motion, but the driver doesnt work, >so i used a generic VGA. > > > I gave up on trying to get this driver working. After tons of patches and other suggestions, It proved to be more trouble than it was worth. Time to get a new laptop I think. Sorry I cant be more helpful Regards, Frank Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 16:28:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FFF316A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:28:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2524243D46 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:27:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so33wri for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:27:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=MdGfguhcmzMrWRmUpHoEfXQMNEYcCD4I8zXuDSiPvkblQ76y4meeMR8LNG4kElBBdaC5wWkCPSe5H/coY42ExigcZ2co8BsYi88pusmReK8HJ2C4UgRXoAdFo/JwcpDn55pL/bzgXfXr/DPfYsoc7prsvOv9oymyIvXbdJ5DmcM= Received: by 10.54.44.61 with SMTP id r61mr82124wrr; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:27:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:27:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:27:47 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Bagus In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to get it online X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:28:02 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:20:21 -0600, Bagus wrote: > > Hi, > > I hope this mailing list can help. I just installed freebsd 5.3-Release onto > a new hard drive and I can't seem to get it online with my dhcp cable modem > thru a linksys hub. Later it will be moving to a static ip, so any help with > that transition now would be helpful too, but for now I have the machine at > home and need to install software on it. > > If I give a > >ifconfig > fxp0: flags =8802 mtu 1500 > options =8 > ether 00:a0:c9:e6:11:b1 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status:active > there's plip0 and lo0 as well... > > >ping freebsd.org > ping: cannot resolve freebsd.org: Host name lookup failure. > > As an aside, I'm stunned this isn't a FAQ or part of the freebsd manual: > "How to get your computer online". Really I'd rather not be posting this > question to a mailing list. It seems so basic, yet I can't find an answer > out there. If anyone has any references, I'd appreciate it. Hostname lookup failure sounds like a dns problem to me. Is there anything in /etc/resolv.conf ? How is fxp0 assigned an IP? DHCP? If so, do you have a line like the following in /etc/rc.conf: ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP" How did you setup the Linksys? Default (out-of-the-box) settings? Is the DHCP server turned on at the router? What does the status page of the router settings show? The FreeBSD Handbook is a great reference: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 16:33:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6452B16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:33:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23B943D1F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:33:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from [172.16.0.70] (pa-plum-cmts1e-68-68-113-64.pittpa.adelphia.net [68.68.113.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A73C69A3F; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:33:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41C9A1D3.3090801@potentialtech.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:33:23 -0500 From: Paul Moran Organization: Potential Technologies User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bagus References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to get it online X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:33:27 -0000 Bagus wrote: >I can't seem to get it online with my dhcp cable modem >thru a linksys hub. > >If I give a > > >>ifconfig >> >> >fxp0: flags =8802 mtu 1500 > options =8 > ether 00:a0:c9:e6:11:b1 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status:active >there's plip0 and lo0 as well... > > > >As an aside, I'm stunned this isn't a FAQ or part of the freebsd manual: >"How to get your computer online". Really I'd rather not be posting this >question to a mailing list. It seems so basic, yet I can't find an answer >out there. If anyone has any references, I'd appreciate it. > >Thanks > >Bagus > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-dhcp.html -- Paul Moran Potential Technologies PH:(412)793-4257 pmoran@potentialtech.com www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 16:37:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9977C16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:37:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbes.brasapen.org (tafkam.xs4all.nl [82.92.76.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502CB43D45 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:37:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tafkam@brasapen.org) Received: from webmail.home.brasapen.org (www.bos-zuidema.nl [172.20.1.10]) by hobbes.brasapen.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B0E68B6; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:37:18 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail.home.brasapen.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BEDF360D7; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:37:18 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:37:18 +0100 From: Eilko Bos To: Bagus Message-ID: <20041222163718.GB50636@webmail.home.brasapen.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Bos-Zuidema-MailScanner-Information: Neem contact op met postmaster@bos-zuidema.nl voor meer informatie X-Bos-Zuidema-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: tafkam@brasapen.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to get it online X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:37:25 -0000 Hi, >From the keyboard of Bagus, written on Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 10:20:21AM -0600: > >ifconfig > fxp0: flags =8802 mtu 1500 > options =8 > ether 00:a0:c9:e6:11:b1 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status:active You don't appear to have an IP-address assigned. Most probably the DHCP- negotiation failed. You don't tell who your ISP is. DHCP-configurations may differ from ISP to ISP. You will have to configure your /etc/dhclient.conf I guess, e.g. with (amongst others) send host-name "your-hostname-known-by-ISP". (man 5 dhclient.conf). After configuring it, retyry DHCP: # dhclient fxp0 > >ping freebsd.org > ping: cannot resolve freebsd.org: Host name lookup failure. Right. If DHCP from your cable ISP failes, most probably your /etc/resolve.conf will not be modified/added. And therefor lookups will fail. > As an aside, I'm stunned this isn't a FAQ or part of the freebsd manual: > "How to get your computer online". Really I'd rather not be posting this > question to a mailing list. It seems so basic, yet I can't find an answer > out there. If anyone has any references, I'd appreciate it. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config-network-setup.html Of course, since DHCP configuration may differ from ISP to ISP, I guess it is too much work to add all those to the handbook. Maybe search engines can point you to a proper references. Or, if you name your ISP on this list, someone here might help you. Cheerz, -- Eilko Bos. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 16:38:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4962B16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:38:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from viefep12-int.chello.at (viefep12-int.chello.at [213.46.255.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3067F43D31 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:38:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor.kovesdan@freemail.hu) Received: from hyperduron ([80.99.33.169]) by viefep12-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.6.01.03.05 201-2131-111-107-20040910) with ESMTP id <20041222163602.EUZP6913.viefep12-int.chello.at@hyperduron> for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:36:02 +0100 From: "=?iso-8859-2?B?S/Z2ZXNk4W4gR+Fib3I=?=" To: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:36:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcToRFz1Tn50X41QRh2+qwtpnemCmA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-Id: <20041222163602.EUZP6913.viefep12-int.chello.at@hyperduron> Subject: Install CD howto and some amd64 issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gabor.kovesdan@freemail.hu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:38:48 -0000 Hi, I've found a Japanese mirror, where some 5.0-STABLE packages can be found, and I'd like to build an own install disc, rather than using CVSup. Could You help me, please, how can I do that? I've got two reasons for building own install disc: 1, I'm going to administer an amd64 server with a RAID5 array and an MSI mainboard with nforce 3 250GB chipset, and unfortunately the official 5.3-RELEASE for amd64 doesn't boot on this machine. I don't know whether the chipset causes this issue or the 3ware 8xxx controller, but the loader stops at the line starting with root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu. Of course, I've written to the freebsd-hardware mailing list, but I haven't got any answers. I've also written to the 3ware, but the supporter was rather a lame guy, he haven't even understood, what my problem is. I've written to MSI, but the result is no answer. Finally, I decided to get a newer kernel somehow, maybe some kind of current kernel would work. I'd like to give a try to 5.0-CURRENT or 6.0-CURRENT, but in this case I can't use the CVSup, because the 5.3 kernel is useless on this machine, thus I haven't got anything to upgrade from. 2, I'd like to install 5.0-STABLE on some machines, and I don't want to upgrade so many times. An own standalone 5.0-CURRENT install disc would be much more convenient for me. And in trouble, when I had to reinstall the system, such a disc would be very useful. Thanks for Your help. I wish You a Merry Xmas, Gabor Kovesdan (from Hungary) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 16:39:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F40016A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:39:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7401A43D2F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:39:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so1480wri for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:39:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=CJhosnuXNJE3csivbYtjL9dvmujxjRsC/wsbu5dhTAfCjEjraYvVw7HSsZpkAR+SogyZpVeoKm46QJPBfoyxnw/85h/WUDvo6m4R73TEMsrJ+tHBiT75NpGDZoiUfIeGc9onUm+l9YoMpfD9FMinHTkSBItQL3I7oYP0OOjdc8I= Received: by 10.54.57.17 with SMTP id f17mr26132wra; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:39:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:39:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:39:31 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: "P. B. S." In-Reply-To: <003501c4e842$2f46c830$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <003501c4e842$2f46c830$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:39:35 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:20:40 +0200, P. B. S. wrote: > How can I do that? > explore2fs is for ext2/3 only. > > I want to copy files from my FreeBSD filesystem (UFS2, I think?) using > Windows. http://us1.samba.org/samba/ # cd /usr/ports/net/samba3 # make install clean Then you can share your FreeBSD files over Samba, and have access to them from your Winboxen. -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 16:41:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9FE216A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:41:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150A043D54 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:41:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from surricani@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so401wri for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:41:31 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Vzy1FqgP7+CBHbrmJuR1linM4T3UWccKJO78sIfWnfRNSxR1IvR5xCRDbbsTBtcRuoFYuxomi/R3ypM7GKR8c9BjmtcZV/TOJk544eN/ey9tbZRz46JFXFPxXzB2TfNsmo1Hh4cZ7OEzG/vuC41+RU0nDUWACDWnV0o5Os0WiYc= Received: by 10.54.14.79 with SMTP id 79mr28204wrn; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:41:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.2.66 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:41:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4591fd91041222084112f01de8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:41:30 +0100 From: "Dott. Surricani" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: problem with IPFILTER X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Dott. Surricani" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:41:36 -0000 Hello everybody. I've succesfully set up an Inclusive Firewall for my small Lan, how explained in Chapter 24 of the Handbook, with IPFILTER and ipnat (Either with kld modules). I've included in rc.conf the lines neeeded and i've written custom ipf.rules and ipnat.rules... It's super, and work great, but I've got a problem/question: each time I restart the server the rules are cleared and It leave all packets enter and exit an I have to type in the shell ipf -Fa -f /etc/ipf.rules and ipnat -CF -f /etc/ipnat.rules It's very boring.... What I can do to automate this task? Thanks all very much!!!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 16:52:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D00A16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:52:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA33743D60 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:52:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so473wri for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:52:29 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Lx7Ow/i9kWi7imr5w4CerfG/QhM7ZcDs4Msm2sMu2mybVVD26CHaSgwkRBUKrgDUUayc05wLxiqhXEebCxvzFEncekBfuyeMb2oP+f5orqRx0ge7beb+J2juteKx9g1c/KSGYP54YzvYfX2EEvnR1xKG7iWTuRWnTVulXAvvWQM= Received: by 10.54.45.8 with SMTP id s8mr113885wrs; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:45:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:45:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:45:48 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: "Dott. Surricani" In-Reply-To: <4591fd91041222084112f01de8@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4591fd91041222084112f01de8@mail.gmail.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with IPFILTER X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:52:33 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:41:30 +0100, Dott. Surricani wrote: > each time I restart the server the rules are cleared and It leave all > packets enter and exit > an I have to type in the shell > > ipf -Fa -f /etc/ipf.rules and > ipnat -CF -f /etc/ipnat.rules In /etc/rc.conf 'man rc.conf(5)' -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 16:53:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4894F16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:53:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1694543D4C for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:53:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost.circlesquared.com [IPv6:::1]) iBMGrR6L065539; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:53:27 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Message-ID: <41C9A687.5040400@circlesquared.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:53:27 +0000 From: Peter Risdon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041219 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "P. B. S." References: <003501c4e842$2f46c830$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> In-Reply-To: <003501c4e842$2f46c830$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:53:31 -0000 P. B. S. wrote: > How can I do that? > explore2fs is for ext2/3 only. IIRC, explore2fs is a software utility that allows you to mount Linux ext2/3 drives directly on a Windows box. There's no similar utility for UFS. So you can't. You can, however, mount them across a network from a running FreeBSD machine, as has been noted already. Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 16:53:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8056316A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:53:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao09.cox.net (lakermmtao09.cox.net [68.230.240.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07FE43D2F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:53:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bagus@cox.net) Received: from bagus ([24.252.103.174]) by lakermmtao09.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with SMTP id <20041222165343.QEKJ1713.lakermmtao09.cox.net@bagus>; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:53:43 -0500 From: "Bagus" To: "Joshua Lokken" Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:00:32 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: how to get it online X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:53:50 -0000 Thanks, > > > Hi, > > > > I hope this mailing list can help. I just installed freebsd 5.3-Release onto > > a new hard drive and I can't seem to get it online with my dhcp cable modem > > thru a linksys hub. Later it will be moving to a static ip, so any help with > > that transition now would be helpful too, but for now I have the machine at > > home and need to install software on it. > > > > If I give a > > >ifconfig > > fxp0: flags =8802 mtu 1500 > > options =8 > > ether 00:a0:c9:e6:11:b1 > > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > > status:active > > there's plip0 and lo0 as well... > > > > >ping freebsd.org > > ping: cannot resolve freebsd.org: Host name lookup failure. > Hostname lookup failure sounds like a dns problem to me. > Is there anything in /etc/resolv.conf ? No, there is not even a /etc/resolve.conf. What should go in there? >How is fxp0 assigned an IP? DHCP? I think so. That's the way it should be. > If so, do you have a line like the following in /etc/rc.conf: > ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP" That line was not in there. I added it and rebooted. The boot process now started the dhcp client, but still no actual ip address is reported in the ifconfig. > > How did you setup the Linksys? Default (out-of-the-box) settings? plugged it in, plugged cable modem into uplink, plugged this pc into one outlet, the freebsd box into another. PC works fine. Lights indicate connectivity to bsd box. > Is the DHCP server turned on at the router? What does the status > page of the router settings show? > That's supposed to be http://192.168.1.1, isn't it? I can't access that even from my pc. Any advice there would be helpful. BTW, I'm using Cox as a ISP. > The FreeBSD Handbook is a great reference: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ Yes... there's more information there than I saw on first perusal. Thanks, but I'm not out of the woods yet. Bagus > > -- > Joshua Lokken > Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 16:54:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CACF16A4D4 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:54:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxoutdr1.us.army.mil (mxoutdr1.us.army.mil [143.69.242.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6379243D3F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:54:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yitzchak.lander@us.army.mil) Received: from mailstore03.int.dr1.us.army.mil (HELO us.army.mil) (10.240.36.29) by mxoutdr1.us.army.mil with ESMTP; 22 Dec 2004 16:54:15 +0000 X-SBRS: None X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="3.88,81,1102291200"; d="scan'208,217"; a="164295856:sNHT3050213766" Received: from [10.240.32.44] (Forwarded-For: [68.116.240.67]) by akomail3.3d.us.army.mil (mshttpd); Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:54:15 -0700 From: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <3864344386762e.386762e3864344@us.army.mil> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:54:15 -0700 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003) Content-Language: en X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: pcmcia wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:54:32 -0000 hello, i am using the 5.0 dist, and i cant get it to read my pcmcia ethernet card. it is rather old card with a cat-5 connector on it for plugging into my router. it is called ositech trumpcard and it is the jack of dimonds model the card works because i tried it on the same computer before loading freebsd and i could surf the net with it. is there a driver avaliable for this card or should i go get a wirless one? (i cant find any cabled ones) if i need to get a wireless one, what brand do you recomend? i do have a wirless g router here. thanks issac From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 16:59:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BECF16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:59:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDB843D39 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:59:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost.circlesquared.com [IPv6:::1]) iBMGxIeG065558; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:59:19 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Message-ID: <41C9A7E6.3090701@circlesquared.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:59:18 +0000 From: Peter Risdon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041219 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marco Beishuizen References: <41C974EF.8020002@uni-mainz.de> <41C97F72.4030409@uni-mainz.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "O. Hartmann" cc: FreeBSD questions mailing list Subject: Re: fsck locks up SMP system (5.3-REL) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:59:26 -0000 Marco Beishuizen wrote: > On stardate Wed, 22 Dec 2004, the wise O. Hartmann entered: > >> Dear Marco. >> Thanks. In my case, FreeBSD 5.3 dies in single user mode on nearly >> each disk activity (it is obviously a FreeBSD 5.3-issue with >> my ASUS CUR-DLS based system). >> >> Please take a look at fsck_ffs(8) man page. There is at the end of the >> description of the options an explanation of the lost+find facility. >> Obviously orphaned files and directories (and in most cases those >> which are expected to be some of them) are gathered and reconnected in >> lost+found. My 'periodic' cron-job deletes the contents of lost+found >> every 7 days. >> Oliver > > > Well the problem didn't dissappear. I was just checking the filesystem > with the midnight commander, and suddenly mc froze in "ufs"-state. Now > I'm running fsck again. > What's being logged? Lots of dma errors in /var/log/messages? Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 17:00:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298F616A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:00:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from labserver.libraryinjonesboro.org (merlon.libraryinjonesboro.org [64.233.137.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A07443D39 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:00:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@libraryinjonesboro.org) Received: by labserver.libraryinjonesboro.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:52:16 -0600 Message-ID: From: Chris Bearden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:52:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: perl.core files in almost every dir X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:00:20 -0000 Has anybody ever seen perl.core files in a good number of the directories in FreeBSD? I'm running 5.3. They are all nearly 3 megs in size. And as far as I can tell, perl runs just fine. I'm executing scripts without any problems. And my messages log doesn't show anything about it, except for another perl.core file existing in the /var/log dir as well! Chris Bearden From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 17:02:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6851A16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:02:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40EEB43D1D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:02:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from troymills@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so191rng for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:02:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Oii02hSqppA+8WpkQzL+iHozAWL9v9JbotNL9xv4CW/kcQAQiDrFWDrokwLkj426fnnPQFng/3nnAdkkmIMseAl856r1//1rLMI6yyRCg5oxigBnZnRvJuL5XD/kyqPL9WC7GG1aiBGJWG5ITVnpDdH/+YrYITSS4FsS4kzfviM= Received: by 10.38.22.57 with SMTP id 57mr5732rnv; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:02:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.71.18 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:02:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:02:31 -0500 From: Troy Mills To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: The FreeBSD Foundation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Troy Mills List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:02:49 -0000 I am not sure if this is really the proper place for this or if it has been discussed however this is something that I'm sure deserves as much exposure as possible. As some of you may or may not know the FreeBSD Foundation supports the FreeBSD developers financially via funds mainly from donations from the public. Anyway there is a IRS "1/3rd test" for "public support" and the current foundation ratio that is a little out of whack due to a few generous people donating large sums of money. I have no idea what will happen if they cannot remain a public charity but I'm sure the affects wont be positive as they clearly stated that it is in there interest to remain a public charity. I'm in no position to be shelling out lots of money right now but I'm going to do my part and I would hope that some of you chip in as well. from my understanding they need a larger number of people donating a smaller amount to correct the ratio. More information can be found on the freebsdfoundation.org website or here is direct link to the newsletter: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/press/20041221-newsletter.shtml p.s. I'm not affiliated with the foundation of FreeBSD in any shape or form other then a very happy user of this fine product, just wanted to help get the word out. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 17:03:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7AA816A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:03:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from amcuxfw803.amc.af.mil (amcuxfw803.amc.af.mil [131.9.254.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C73F43D41 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:03:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david.hauan@fairchild.af.mil) Received: from amcw2av801.amc.ds.af.mil (amcw2av801.amc.af.mil [131.9.19.109]) by fw3.amc.af.mil with SMTP id iBMH24Bv003514; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:03:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from AMCW2BH505.amc.ds.af.mil ([131.9.25.136]) M2004122211030101292 ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:03:01 -0600 Received: from amcw2ms517.amc.ds.af.mil ([131.9.19.74]) by AMCW2BH505.amc.ds.af.mil with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:03:01 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:03:00 -0600 Message-ID: <59FD5336D1B1FA40AF6DDD241D8DBAC6012BED67@amcw2ms517.amc.ds.af.mil> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? Thread-Index: AcToQm0l3ID8G5/yRb2FIjA9XzQCJgABUeDg From: "Hauan David A Civ 92 CES/CERW" To: "P. B. S." , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Dec 2004 17:03:01.0368 (UTC) FILETIME=[18267780:01C4E848] Subject: RE: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:03:40 -0000 > How can I do that? > explore2fs is for ext2/3 only. >=20 > I want to copy files from my FreeBSD filesystem (UFS2, I=20 > think?) using=20 > Windows.=20 >=20 Why not ftp or sftp them? Download filezilla for your windows box. dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 17:06:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F2416A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:06:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pd4mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E047C43D5C for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:06:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flowers@users.sourceforge.net) Received: from pd3mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr3so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.179]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I94005UCVI05L60@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:06:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml7so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.151]) by pd3mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I94005CEVI0Y860@pd3mr3so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:06:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from procyon.nekulturny.org (S0106000c41b2b9a3.cg.shawcable.net [68.144.45.143]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I9400N9AVI01E@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:06:00 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:06:00 -0700 From: Danny MacMillan In-reply-to: <20041222120943.GA43635@keyslapper.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <20041222170600.GA818@procyon.nekulturny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline References: <20041222120943.GA43635@keyslapper.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:06:41 -0000 On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 07:09:43AM -0500, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > > ... > > As for rejected email, I just have zoneedit act as the lowest priority > MX for my domains and anytime something can't get sent to my system > because I've been renumbered, zoneedit will spend up to 10 days trying > to relay it in - which usually turns into a matter of a couple hours > at most, since they find out where I am pretty quick. > > I've been using zoneedit for longer than I can remember - since my 4.3 > install at least, with both cable/DHCP and DSL/PPP, and the only time > I ever know I've been renumbered is when I check my logs. I don't get > reports of email that I never received either. Another option for e-mail, that I'm just investigating myself, is to use an ODMR (on-demand mail relay) service like MailKeep ( http://www.mailkeep.com ). I just set up a 30 day free trial account with them. I set up my domain on their site, identified them as my primary MX, and initiated an ODMR transfer with fetchmail. I have it set up to do 'direct SMTP', which means that if my mail server is up mail is delivered immediately. The benefit of a service like this is that you tell it what your mail server says in its banner, and if it doesn't see that text it won't deliver the mail (it stays queued on their server). That way it won't accidentally deliver your mail to someone else. The way that you tell it what your mail server IP is is by initiating an ODMR session with your username and password, which you have to do at least once a day, again as a verification measure so it's "really sure" it's delivering mail to the right party. That's easily cron-able. It is a pay service but it's much more reasonable than a static IP (at least in my area), and if you don't like taking the gamble that you're going to lose mail it may be worth it to you. -- Danny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 17:06:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3375A16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:06:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp801.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp801.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A6CB543D39 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:06:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sp0ng3b0b@sbcglobal.net) Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.1.1.25?) (joe?stevensen@69.107.45.115 with plain) by smtp801.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 17:06:41 -0000 Message-ID: <41C9A99F.2010300@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:06:39 -0800 From: sp0ng3b0b User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd_daemon References: <2365.1103713625@www17.gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <2365.1103713625@www17.gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with tar archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:06:42 -0000 I had some strange tar problems with bsd tar, which is included with 5.3-RELEASE. I would recommend installing gtar and using that instead. By the way, if you install gtar, you just type "tar" as you normally would. freebsd_daemon wrote: > Dear list, > > I got a tar archive (varia.tar), when I try to un-tar it I get: > > # tar xvf ./varia.tar > ../varia/ > tar: ../varia/: Member name contains `..' > ../varia/bkup200401.gz > tar: ../varia/bkup200401.gz: Member name contains `..' > > [...] > > ../varia/bkup200411.gz > tar: ../varia/bkup200411.gz: Member name contains `..' > tar: Error exit delay from previous error > > Is there a way to un-tar that archive despite of that? > > TIA > > zheyu > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 17:13:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70D616A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:13:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from safeco.hostingservice.net (safeco.hostingservice.net [209.150.128.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6874A43D39 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:13:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adam@jamradar.com) Received: from PANASONIULSWMR (58.sub-166-153-190.myvzw.com [166.153.190.58]) by safeco.hostingservice.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id iBMHDFW19461 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:13:16 -0600 Message-ID: <001601c4e849$864a7620$3abe99a6@PANASONIULSWMR> From: "Adam" To: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:13:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: SSH into FBSD after Minimal Install? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:13:18 -0000 I'm re-installing FreeBSD on a machine that currently has FreeBSD on it. = I'm doing all this remotely over SSH. If I install with "Minimal" distribution set with "sysinstall" will I be = able to enable SSH and add a user before the system goes down? I don't want to loose conectivity, I can't to go to the server's = location right now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 17:15:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B053A16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:15:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp15.wxs.nl (smtp15.wxs.nl [195.121.6.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D24E43D46 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:15:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marco@beishuizen.info) Received: from tsunami.bsd (ipd50a233c.speed.planet.nl [213.10.35.60]) by smtp15.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I9400BU3VYDGG@smtp15.wxs.nl> for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:15:50 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:15:49 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen In-reply-to: <41C9A7E6.3090701@circlesquared.com> Sender: marco@tsunami.bsd To: Peter Risdon Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT FreeBSD: Homepage: References: <41C974EF.8020002@uni-mainz.de> <41C97F72.4030409@uni-mainz.de> <41C9A7E6.3090701@circlesquared.com> cc: "O. Hartmann" cc: FreeBSD questions mailing list Subject: Re: fsck locks up SMP system (5.3-REL) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:15:51 -0000 On stardate Wed, 22 Dec 2004, the wise Peter Risdon entered: >> Well the problem didn't dissappear. I was just checking the filesystem with >> the midnight commander, and suddenly mc froze in "ufs"-state. Now I'm >> running fsck again. >> > > What's being logged? Lots of dma errors in /var/log/messages? > > Peter. No, nothing strange is logged. Only sendmail things, which are normal for my system. Marco -- Loud burping while walking around the airport is prohibited in Halstead, Kansas. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 17:23:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A5516A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:23:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ausc60pc101.us.dell.com (ausc60pc101.us.dell.com [143.166.85.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707DD43D3F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:23:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Clay_Cooper@Dell.com) Received: from ausx2kcps315.aus.amer.dell.com (143.166.3.50) by ausc60pc101.us.dell.com with ESMTP; 22 Dec 2004 11:23:41 -0600 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.88,81,1102312800"; d="scan'208"; a="165734687:sNHT40140424" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6527.0 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:23:24 -0600 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Support for PERC4e/Di and 4e/Si Thread-Index: AcTjVBTMSFKZjR7QS+SCAW94qTlb2AE80x9A From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Dec 2004 17:23:25.0461 (UTC) FILETIME=[F1C43C50:01C4E84A] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Support for PERC4e/Di and 4e/Si X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:23:42 -0000 Martin and all, Thanks for your help. I found a patch in the freebsd-stable mailing list archive that adds the PCI-IDs to amr_pci.c. For some reason the patch would not apply correctly to my 4.10-stable-20040818-jpsnap source, but I was able to make the changes manually and compile a new kernel. The new kernel recognized the PERC4e/Di and PERC4e/Si, and the amr driver loaded and worked with the newer PERCs. For everyone's reference, here is the patch as copied from the mailing list: --- 4.10-rel/amr_pci.c Wed Oct 27 18:15:12 2004 +++ amr_pci.c Wed Oct 27 18:15:12 2004 @@ -128,6 +128,7 @@ {0x1000, 0x1960, PROBE_SIGNATURE}, {0x1000, 0x0407, 0}, {0x1028, 0x000e, PROBE_SIGNATURE}, /* perc4/di i960 */ + {0x1028, 0x0013, 0}, /* perc4e/Si */ {0x1028, 0x000f, 0}, /* perc4/di Verde*/ {0, 0, 0} }; @@ -180,7 +181,8 @@ */ command =3D pci_read_config(dev, PCIR_COMMAND, 1); if ((pci_get_device(dev) =3D=3D 0x1960) || (pci_get_device(dev) = =3D=3D=20 0x0407) || - (pci_get_device(dev) =3D=3D 0x000e) || (pci_get_device(dev) = =3D=3D=20 0x000f)) { + (pci_get_device(dev) =3D=3D 0x000e) || (pci_get_device(dev) = =3D=3D=20 0x000f) || + (pci_get_device(dev) =3D=3D 0x0013)) { /* * Make sure we are going to be able to talk to this board. */=20 Clay Cooper, RHCE PG Custom Solutions Engineering Clay_Cooper@Dell.com 512.723.5951 -----Original Message----- From: Martin Hepworth [mailto:martinh@solid-state-logic.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 3:05 AM To: Cooper, Clay Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for PERC4e/Di and 4e/Si Clay have you tried booting from the first CD. I think the floppy based kernel is cut down a little to save space, so it may not have the required driver on it. If you can't boot from the CD (like bios won't support it), you'll have to build you own floppy images with the perc 4e driver in that kernel.=20 See the hnadbook for how to do this.. -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300 Clay_Cooper@Dell.com wrote: > Greetings, >=20 > The amr driver man page @ > = http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Damr&apropos=3D0&sektion=3D4&ma= npa > th > =3DFreeBSD+4.10-stable&format=3Dhtml > Claims support for PERC4e/Di and Si in 4.10-stable. =20 >=20 > However when I download the floppies from=20 > ftp://snapshots.jp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/4.10-STABLE-20 > 041117-JPSNAP/floppies/ and boot from them, the hardware is not > recognized. Is there a minimum version of 4.10-stable I need to be=20 > using or possibly a patch that I could apply? >=20 > Thanks in advance for your assistance. =20 >=20 >=20 > Clay Cooper > PG Custom Solutions Engineering > Clay_Cooper@Dell.com >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=20 > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses and is believed to be clean. ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 17:29:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76BB216A4CF for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:29:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.orbitel.bg (smtp.orbitel.bg [195.24.32.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 043DF43D45 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:29:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from avenger@vip.bg) Received: (qmail 16768 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2004 17:29:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (10.0.0.4) by smtp.orbitel.bg with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 17:29:35 -0000 Received: from smtp.orbitel.bg ([10.0.0.3]) by localhost (sof-rv2.orbitel.bg [10.0.0.4]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 08409-12 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:28:32 +0200 (EET) Received: (qmail 16717 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2004 17:29:32 -0000 Received: from pppoe-20.techno-link.com (HELO apise6e37e23bb) (212.36.15.20) by smtp.orbitel.bg with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 17:29:32 -0000 Message-ID: <004d01c4e84b$cdda17f0$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> From: "P. B. S." To: References: <59FD5336D1B1FA40AF6DDD241D8DBAC6012BED67@amcw2ms517.amc.ds.af.mil> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:29:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="koi8-r"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2096 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2096 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at orbitel.bg Subject: Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:29:38 -0000 I'm talking about 1 (one) computer! The FreeBSD partition is on the same hard disk; the 2 operating systems are not working at the same time. Samba, ftp, scp, etc. are not applicable here. That's why I mentioned explore2fs... I wanted to be clear. Peter Risdon wrote: > IIRC, explore2fs is a software utility that allows you to mount Linux > ext2/3 drives directly on a Windows box. There's no similar utility for > UFS. So you can't. I know what it is. ;) Erm... that's bad news. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 17:34:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D6416A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:34:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A95743D5D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:34:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamera@pacbell.net) Received: from unknown (HELO gamerasmog.com) (gamera@pacbell.net@64.173.26.30 with login) by smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 17:34:30 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:34:27 -0800 From: Joshua Tinnin To: Joshua Lokken Message-ID: <20041222173427.GA58428@gamerasmog.com> References: <00f601c4e839$f69e35c0$c901a8c0@haklot> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: Pervert Files cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best newsgroup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:34:32 -0000 On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 10:20:04AM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote: > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:21:46 -0500, Pervert Files > wrote: > > Hello, > > > > What is the best newsgroup to read freebsd question. > > muc.lists.freebsd.questions doesn't seem to be updating > > with anything on my news provider. > > Well, a google search on 'freebsd questions archives' shows: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-September/059184.html > http://archive.pilgerer.org/mharc/html/freebsd-questions/ The archives are easily available, as Joshua showed, but if you want to browse the questions list on a newsgroup, check out mailing.freebsd.questions. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 17:38:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97E616A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:38:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ion.franksworld.org (vhost.domainatlantic.com [67.18.185.244]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450D543D41 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:38:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from laszlof@vonostingroup.com) Received: (qmail 31764 invoked by uid 98); 22 Dec 2004 12:40:23 -0000 Received: from 68.72.248.38 by ion.franksworld.org (envelope-from , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.24 (clamdscan: 0.75.1. spamassassin: 3.0.1. Clear:RC:0(68.72.248.38):SA:0(3.0/5.0):. Processed in 3.925262 secs); 22 Dec 2004 12:40:23 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.0 required=5.0 X-Spam-Level: +++ X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: laszlof@vonostingroup.com via ion.franksworld.org X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.24 (Clear:RC:0(68.72.248.38):SA:0(3.0/5.0):. Processed in 3.925262 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO vonostingroup.com) (frank@franksworld.org@68.72.248.38) by vhost.domainatlantic.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 12:40:19 -0000 Message-ID: <41C9B12C.1040200@vonostingroup.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:38:52 -0500 From: Frank Laszlo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (Windows/20040207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "P. B. S." References: <59FD5336D1B1FA40AF6DDD241D8DBAC6012BED67@amcw2ms517.amc.ds.af.mil> <004d01c4e84b$cdda17f0$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> In-Reply-To: <004d01c4e84b$cdda17f0$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: peter@circlesquared.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:38:58 -0000 > > > Peter Risdon wrote: > >> IIRC, explore2fs is a software utility that allows you to mount Linux >> ext2/3 drives directly on a Windows box. There's no similar utility for >> UFS. So you can't. > > This is untrue. > I know what it is. ;) > > Erm... that's bad news. > you can check out http://ffsdrv.sourceforge.net. I found a solution for this a few months ago but lost the link somewhere, I'll keep you posted if I find it, Until then try this one out. Regards, Frank Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 17:39:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBF016A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:39:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kende.com (ns1.kende.com [66.17.131.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A828C43D3F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:39:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andras@kende.com) Received: (qmail 39436 invoked by uid 0); 22 Dec 2004 17:39:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO a) (24.1.129.219) by ns1.kende.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 17:39:37 -0000 From: "Andras Kende" To: "'Dott. Surricani'" , Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:39:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <4591fd91041222084112f01de8@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcToRSXuba11zoAfTP2xmfuihyUiNAAB+Xwg Message-Id: <20041222173933.A828C43D3F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: RE: problem with IPFILTER X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:39:34 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Dott. Surricani Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 10:42 AM To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: problem with IPFILTER Hello everybody. I've succesfully set up an Inclusive Firewall for my small Lan, how explained in Chapter 24 of the Handbook, with IPFILTER and ipnat (Either with kld modules). I've included in rc.conf the lines neeeded and i've written custom ipf.rules and ipnat.rules... It's super, and work great, but I've got a problem/question: each time I restart the server the rules are cleared and It leave all packets enter and exit an I have to type in the shell ipf -Fa -f /etc/ipf.rules and ipnat -CF -f /etc/ipnat.rules It's very boring.... What I can do to automate this task? Thanks all very much!!!! _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hello /etc/rc.conf : #Enable routing packets between interfaces gateway_enable="YES" #Bring up the ipfilter software ipfilter_enable="YES" #Tell ipfilter where to get its rules ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipf.rules" #Enable ipnat ipnat_enable="YES" #Tell ipnat where to get its rules ipnat_rules="/etc/ipnat.rules" Best regards, Andras Kende http://www.kende.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 17:48:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6BE016A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:48:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72EF43D39 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:48:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ippiraman@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so328rne for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:48:06 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XJc53+6IKfpGzJXuKBmYCAnJUwuKNaRt+PGdKNrl/77UT473DUS5EPWBiWqJ1JBFcwdciDnwEVmbrEj+aoN4sj7r5CSgGn9LpLlVMVh2TeWiG6ufmwZ/q+BFa/YRwBr6ze9T2GbhxhT4rwutBMxGR8XmnKwX7XjSDPngrkB/G7k= Received: by 10.38.102.78 with SMTP id z78mr295729rnb; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:48:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.102.32 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:48:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:48:06 +0000 From: Irvin Piraman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 5.3-RELEASE installation weirdness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Irvin Piraman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:48:09 -0000 Hi all! I was attempting to install 5.3-RELEASE on an old laptop (Twinhead P166 32MB RAM 2 GB HDD), and the hardware detection went smoothly including detection of the hdd (ad0). However, during sysintall an error occurred - "No disks found". I was able to successfully install DragonFlyBSD and FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE, but not 5.3. I thought using the latest release would provide better hardware detection and support. But then again, why this weirdness? Thanks Irvin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 18:02:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1086C16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:02:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4B643D46 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:02:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20041222180209i9100rg84ne>; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:02:10 +0000 Message-ID: <41C9B69F.1050907@nbritton.org> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:02:07 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Risdon References: <003501c4e842$2f46c830$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> <41C9A687.5040400@circlesquared.com> In-Reply-To: <41C9A687.5040400@circlesquared.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "P. B. S." cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:02:12 -0000 Peter Risdon wrote: > P. B. S. wrote: > >> How can I do that? >> explore2fs is for ext2/3 only. > > > IIRC, explore2fs is a software utility that allows you to mount Linux > ext2/3 drives directly on a Windows box. There's no similar utility > for UFS. So you can't. > > You can, however, mount them across a network from a running FreeBSD > machine, as has been noted already. > > Peter. Being that BSD is under a BSD lic. how come no ones made a ufs/ufs2 driver for windows yet? a lot of other stuff was riped from BSD like the network stack etc and put into windows, so I'm sure it can't be that hard (but harder then I can handle, heck I'm not even a programmer, just a Perl junky). It would be usefull for people dual booting, migrating to BSD (and from? lol), and doing large data transfers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 18:02:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF1C16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:02:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.chrononomicon.com (chrononomicon.com [216.37.143.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C497643D4C for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:02:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.0.42]) by mail.chrononomicon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D18F2AD231; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:02:44 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <004d01c4e84b$cdda17f0$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> References: <59FD5336D1B1FA40AF6DDD241D8DBAC6012BED67@amcw2ms517.amc.ds.af.mil> <004d01c4e84b$cdda17f0$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:02:42 -0500 To: "P. B. S." X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:02:46 -0000 On Dec 22, 2004, at 12:29 PM, P. B. S. wrote: > I'm talking about 1 (one) computer! The FreeBSD partition is on the > same hard disk; the 2 operating systems are not working at the same > time. Samba, ftp, scp, etc. are not applicable here. > That's why I mentioned explore2fs... I wanted to be clear. What about mounting the Windows partition under FBSD? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 18:07:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C94616A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:07:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328DD43D5E for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:07:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost.circlesquared.com [IPv6:::1]) iBMI7Qwu065700; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:07:36 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Message-ID: <41C9B7DE.6060104@circlesquared.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:07:26 +0000 From: Peter Risdon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041219 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Laszlo References: <59FD5336D1B1FA40AF6DDD241D8DBAC6012BED67@amcw2ms517.amc.ds.af.mil> <004d01c4e84b$cdda17f0$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> <41C9B12C.1040200@vonostingroup.com> In-Reply-To: <41C9B12C.1040200@vonostingroup.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "P. B. S." cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:07:40 -0000 Frank Laszlo wrote: > >> >> >> Peter Risdon wrote: >> >>> IIRC, explore2fs is a software utility that allows you to mount Linux >>> ext2/3 drives directly on a Windows box. There's no similar utility for >>> UFS. So you can't. >> >> >> > This is untrue. > OK, thanks for the update. There was a thread earlier this year that concluded there was no such utility, and I hadn't found one myself when I last looked. Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 18:15:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1287F16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:15:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5771B43D1F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:15:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost.circlesquared.com [IPv6:::1]) iBMIEcDI065719; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:14:48 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Message-ID: <41C9B98E.8050205@circlesquared.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:14:38 +0000 From: Peter Risdon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041219 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Clay Culver References: <20041221210750.51FF343D54@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20041221210750.51FF343D54@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Plesk & FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:15:03 -0000 Clay Culver wrote: > Hi, > > > > Anyone have experience running Plesk 7.1.x with FreeBSD? Since > it looks like they are not supporting this line anymore I wish to upgrade > PHP and am trying to figure out how they have PHP configured. So I would > like to know if anyone has configured PHP (4.3.10 is what I wish to install) > under Plesk 7.1.x and FreeBSD 4.9 (although I would guess it's the same > configuration for 5.x). Or is there a way for me to get FreeBSD to tell me > how 4.3.9 was configured? More a PHP question, I think. Do you know the phpinfo() builtin? A file called phpconfig.php with the following content: Will give you the details of your present setup. Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 18:16:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F183D16A4CF for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:16:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91CF843D3F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:16:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20041222181610i9100rfut7e>; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:16:10 +0000 Message-ID: <41C9B9E6.7060903@nbritton.org> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:16:06 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joshua Tinnin References: <00f601c4e839$f69e35c0$c901a8c0@haklot> <20041222173427.GA58428@gamerasmog.com> In-Reply-To: <20041222173427.GA58428@gamerasmog.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Pervert Files cc: Joshua Lokken cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best newsgroup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:16:12 -0000 Joshua Tinnin wrote: >On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 10:20:04AM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote: > > >>On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:21:46 -0500, Pervert Files >> wrote: >> >> >>>Hello, >>> >>>What is the best newsgroup to read freebsd question. >>>muc.lists.freebsd.questions doesn't seem to be updating >>>with anything on my news provider. >>> >>> >>Well, a google search on 'freebsd questions archives' shows: >> >>http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-September/059184.html >>http://archive.pilgerer.org/mharc/html/freebsd-questions/ >> >> > >The archives are easily available, as Joshua showed, but if you want to >browse the questions list on a newsgroup, check out >mailing.freebsd.questions. > >- jt > > > This ones easy (tho I hate there "new" style), bookmark this link to your toolbar as "BSD Search": http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?&as_ugroup=mailing.freebsd.* This will let you google all the freebsd mailing lists, in the search box you'll see "group:mailing.freebsd.*", don't delete it, you can type in front of it or after it. and note that you can change as_ugroup= to anything you want, and you know.. I've never tried it like this: *.freebsd.* hmm? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 18:24:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD9B16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:24:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAB743D1F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:24:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from bsdbox.farid-hajji.net (bsdbox [192.168.254.3]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F13C4B799; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:24:08 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:24:19 +0100 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: Chris Bearden Message-ID: <20041222182419.GA1804@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: perl.core files in almost every dir X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:24:14 -0000 On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 10:52:15AM -0600, Chris Bearden wrote: > Has anybody ever seen perl.core files in a good number of the directories in > FreeBSD? I'm running 5.3. > > They are all nearly 3 megs in size. And as far as I can tell, perl runs just > fine. I'm executing scripts without any problems. > > And my messages log doesn't show anything about it, except for another > perl.core file existing in the /var/log dir as well! This can happen, when a script uses a broken perl extension module. It's not necessarily perl's fault. Try to identify the script that triggers those coredumps, then look at the extension modules used by that script. You may then want to recompile (an updated version of) the extension module, so that it matches the version of your current perl installation. Good luck. > Chris Bearden Cheers, cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 18:29:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C7A16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:29:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1521C43D31 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:29:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20041222182901i92002acbae>; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:29:03 +0000 Message-ID: <41C9BCEA.1080409@nbritton.org> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:28:58 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikolas Britton References: <00f601c4e839$f69e35c0$c901a8c0@haklot> <20041222173427.GA58428@gamerasmog.com> <41C9B9E6.7060903@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: <41C9B9E6.7060903@nbritton.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Pervert Files cc: Joshua Tinnin cc: Joshua Lokken cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best newsgroup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:29:04 -0000 Nikolas Britton wrote: > This ones easy (tho I hate there "new" style), bookmark this link to > your toolbar as "BSD Search": > http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?&as_ugroup=mailing.freebsd.* > > This will let you google all the freebsd mailing lists, in the search > box you'll see "group:mailing.freebsd.*", don't delete it, you can > type in front of it or after it. > > and note that you can change as_ugroup= to anything you want, and you > know.. I've never tried it like this: *.freebsd.* hmm? > Yes that worked, cool, now I can search every newsgroup with the word freebsd in it: http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?&as_ugroup=*.freebsd.* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 18:30:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DF716A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:30:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF67643D55 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:30:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so1000wra for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:30:14 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=VAKmivUwRQdeg+SNOe5PxsaGt65/n+bqZ5SLb/4v+nhQohtSMCti7UjgjN8dEUQcPiyo40g3URhTzkADIZcDh92ODTfd+MJNK2IIUqUNrACbNY2fWxZMEYvj4aDOGArc8QX1OLAuyOGmwmim7HBIu3XoufAG71gKECipNaPgtUk= Received: by 10.54.53.56 with SMTP id b56mr157789wra; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:30:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:30:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:30:13 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Bagus In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to get it online X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:30:23 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:00:32 -0600, Bagus wrote: > > > >ping freebsd.org > > > ping: cannot resolve freebsd.org: Host name lookup failure. > > > Hostname lookup failure sounds like a dns problem to me. > > Is there anything in /etc/resolv.conf ? > > No, there is not even a /etc/resolve.conf. What should go in there? > >How is fxp0 assigned an IP? DHCP? > I think so. That's the way it should be. > > > If so, do you have a line like the following in /etc/rc.conf: > > ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP" > > That line was not in there. I added it and rebooted. The boot process now > started the dhcp client, but still no actual ip address is reported in the > ifconfig. > > > > How did you setup the Linksys? Default (out-of-the-box) settings? > > plugged it in, plugged cable modem into uplink, plugged this pc into one > outlet, the freebsd box into another. PC works fine. Lights indicate > connectivity to bsd box. > > > Is the DHCP server turned on at the router? What does the status > > page of the router settings show? > > > > That's supposed to be http://192.168.1.1, isn't it? I can't access that even > from my pc. Any advice there would be helpful. BTW, I'm using Cox as a > ISP. You can set fxp0 to use a static IP until you get the router working. # ifconfig fxp0 inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 # route add default 192.168.1.1 In /etc/rc.conf, you should have: ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP" defaultrouter="192.168.1.1" You should be able to login to the Linksys admin page: http://192.168.1.1 AFAIK, most of the Linksys home networking devices use a blank username and password 'admin' by default. Make sure that the DHCP server is enabled, and restart. HTH, -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 18:31:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E1516A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:31:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC8943D41 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:31:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so416wri for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:31:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=TDfvlJRSX6baAPe/EywzS33XIaUX1Y6nva/gfW1gtGjqfPUFxLzKV9AnuBRNT1aOrLq5lDJtiRu8FuUTzenu6i1bOYOl1Sx7pjs5/l+2vhXzF9hyX4ilrBlgaApF10CQ2TciihjTWoAVbL2+STa9c48jmW0YU7wa4tk1Ui6zGEg= Received: by 10.54.42.56 with SMTP id p56mr73029wrp; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:31:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:31:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:31:35 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: <41C9BCEA.1080409@nbritton.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <00f601c4e839$f69e35c0$c901a8c0@haklot> <20041222173427.GA58428@gamerasmog.com> <41C9B9E6.7060903@nbritton.org> <41C9BCEA.1080409@nbritton.org> cc: Pervert Files cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best newsgroup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:31:41 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:28:58 -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote: > Yes that worked, cool, now I can search every newsgroup with the word > freebsd in it: http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?&as_ugroup=*.freebsd.* http://www.google.com/bsd -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 18:42:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E27F16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:42:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from argent.heraldsnet.org (argent.heraldsnet.org [64.83.41.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F64F43D46 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:42:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jtrigg@spamcop.net) Received: from mail.scadian.net (localhost.scadian.net [127.0.0.1]) by argent.heraldsnet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D006BBA; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:42:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from 128.222.32.10 (SquirrelMail authenticated user blaise); by mail.scadian.net with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:42:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <57154.128.222.32.10.1103740963.squirrel@128.222.32.10> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:42:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Jim Trigg" To: "Joshua Lokken" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Bagus Subject: Re: how to get it online X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:42:45 -0000 On Wed, December 22, 2004 1:30 pm, Joshua Lokken said: > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:00:32 -0600, Bagus wrote: >> > >> > How did you setup the Linksys? Default (out-of-the-box) settings? >> >> plugged it in, plugged cable modem into uplink, plugged this pc into one >> outlet, the freebsd box into another. PC works fine. Lights indicate >> connectivity to bsd box. >> >> > Is the DHCP server turned on at the router? What does the status >> > page of the router settings show? >> > >> >> That's supposed to be http://192.168.1.1, isn't it? I can't access that >> even >> from my pc. Any advice there would be helpful. BTW, I'm using Cox as a >> ISP. Not if you haven't reconfigured the router; the default is http://192.168.0.1. Jim -- Jim Trigg, Lord High Everything Else O- /"\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN Hostmaster, Huie Kin family website X HELP CURE HTML MAIL Verger, All Saints Church - Sharon Chapel / \ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 18:42:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD60016A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:42:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75CFC43D46 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:42:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so642wri for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:42:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=rjQADFUBAOEGGIZ0ArU+8wrY0s7QEVT1ozsYi3aNgu/Nw1GnNCtZQLNpRIjlgFsXsRxIQ6Mom4Mok9u2nx8U4m96gItY1dBLccJriWzwSDVT6Tn42l5SbCy99dPpAimFMurJS/5+wgBXwERxrSqnfB0bA3RtPMT5mBiTFo/AoQU= Received: by 10.54.57.17 with SMTP id f17mr72353wra; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:42:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:42:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:42:40 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Bart Silverstrim In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <59FD5336D1B1FA40AF6DDD241D8DBAC6012BED67@amcw2ms517.amc.ds.af.mil> <004d01c4e84b$cdda17f0$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> cc: "P. B. S." cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:42:54 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:02:42 -0500, Bart Silverstrim wrote: > > On Dec 22, 2004, at 12:29 PM, P. B. S. wrote: > > > I'm talking about 1 (one) computer! The FreeBSD partition is on the > > same hard disk; the 2 operating systems are not working at the same > > time. Samba, ftp, scp, etc. are not applicable here. > > That's why I mentioned explore2fs... I wanted to be clear. > > What about mounting the Windows partition under FBSD? Yeah, is writing to NTFS implemented now? -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 18:44:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A7E16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:44:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3AD143D2F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:44:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20041222184434i92002aicse>; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:44:35 +0000 Message-ID: <41C9C08F.3090307@nbritton.org> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:44:31 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joshua Lokken References: <00f601c4e839$f69e35c0$c901a8c0@haklot> <20041222173427.GA58428@gamerasmog.com> <41C9B9E6.7060903@nbritton.org> <41C9BCEA.1080409@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Pervert Files cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best newsgroup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:44:36 -0000 Joshua Lokken wrote: >On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:28:58 -0600, Nikolas Britton > wrote: > > >>Yes that worked, cool, now I can search every newsgroup with the word >>freebsd in it: http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?&as_ugroup=*.freebsd.* >> >> > >http://www.google.com/bsd > > > Yes this is a usefull tool as well but it will only let you search web pages here's this thread in google groups: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/mailing.freebsd.questions/browse_thread/thread/a645030a2aba09d2/da511797e7f307ba You can clearly see that they keep it up to date :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 18:45:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA6916A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:45:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C8A43D49 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:45:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from [192.168.1.77] (c-24-8-184-241.client.comcast.net [24.8.184.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBMIgeIf026899 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:42:40 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Message-ID: <41C9BD9D.5000508@vilot.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:31:57 -0700 From: Tom Vilot Organization: 3Dimentia, Incorporated User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Foundation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:45:21 -0000 Thanks, Troy, for posting this. With their PayPal link, it made it effortless to donate. FreeBSD is worth a lot more to me than I donated ... but I'll just do it again and again and again ... :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 18:45:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 463D416A526 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:45:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04BE443D3F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:45:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so424wri for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:45:28 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=C4aEJx2/DvvFFZgwbhB+9Mj8qz4ksclRmtCs1hefXe2kxphu2tEJ6GauH3HN6IL5cfCL8lPtFLzVTwyJAmFE/fVLUB6Q2MHEAxDsh2mHHYBt8m3gwawVJe6Tus9nOos12L+URdWdyycqyJLBODbOM8IhDKncclCqaRdQdgHG4os= Received: by 10.54.53.56 with SMTP id b56mr163394wra; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:45:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:45:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:45:27 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Adam In-Reply-To: <001601c4e849$864a7620$3abe99a6@PANASONIULSWMR> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <001601c4e849$864a7620$3abe99a6@PANASONIULSWMR> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSH into FBSD after Minimal Install? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:45:45 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:13:07 -0600, Adam wrote: > I'm re-installing FreeBSD on a machine that currently has FreeBSD on it. I'm doing all this remotely over SSH. > > If I install with "Minimal" distribution set with "sysinstall" will I be able to > enable SSH and add a user before the system goes down? You can do about any administrative task from sysinstall, including drop into a shell, so yes, I would think you will be able to do that. -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 18:47:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFED316A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:47:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.chrononomicon.com (chrononomicon.com [216.37.143.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFAE43D31 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:47:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.0.42]) by mail.chrononomicon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58092AD36B for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:47:25 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: References: <59FD5336D1B1FA40AF6DDD241D8DBAC6012BED67@amcw2ms517.amc.ds.af.mil> <004d01c4e84b$cdda17f0$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:47:24 -0500 To: FreeBSD Question List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:47:28 -0000 On Dec 22, 2004, at 1:42 PM, Joshua Lokken wrote: > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:02:42 -0500, Bart Silverstrim > wrote: >> >> On Dec 22, 2004, at 12:29 PM, P. B. S. wrote: >> >>> I'm talking about 1 (one) computer! The FreeBSD partition is on the >>> same hard disk; the 2 operating systems are not working at the same >>> time. Samba, ftp, scp, etc. are not applicable here. >>> That's why I mentioned explore2fs... I wanted to be clear. >> >> What about mounting the Windows partition under FBSD? > > Yeah, is writing to NTFS implemented now? This I do not know...I thought there was experimental support for NTFS, but I haven't tried this. Another option...an external hard disk formatted FAT so both could see it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 18:47:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9BE716A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:47:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77F843D1D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:47:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so689wri for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:47:31 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=aPGHIe11tOSF8306B4yXQRUMMtt/jBpVW5GTlKCSspwlik3yFbUevSH2Ry4ObxUycva4hLINEdg01lEaIzqZP8YCNxQVdECVK0EWrgd22vTuG544wTIv7lec/yoqtDlFt/aRv7qywD4bR0eEK7992SA0czodCpH8yM5aK+ZwS08= Received: by 10.54.42.56 with SMTP id p56mr78851wrp; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:47:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:47:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:47:31 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: "yitzchak.lander@us.army.mil" In-Reply-To: <3864344386762e.386762e3864344@us.army.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <3864344386762e.386762e3864344@us.army.mil> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pcmcia wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:47:36 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:54:15 -0700, yitzchak.lander@us.army.mil wrote: > > hello, > > i am using the 5.0 dist, and i cant get it to read my pcmcia ethernet > card. it is rather old card with a cat-5 connector on it for plugging > into my router. it is called ositech trumpcard and it is the jack of > dimonds model the card works because i tried it on the same computer > before loading freebsd and i could surf the net with it. is there a > driver avaliable for this card or should i go get a wirless one? (i > cant find any cabled ones) if i need to get a wireless one, what brand > do you recomend? i do have a wirless g router here. I don't know much about wireless technology or setting it up on FreeBSD, however, you're likely to be asked "Why 5.0? It is no longer supported, and is quite old. Have you got specific reasons for not going with 5.3, which is the production release?" So I'll just get that out of the way.... ;) -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 18:51:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F51416A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:51:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DE043D49 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:51:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so640wri for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:51:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=EXVsi+SjK6blF83/MTdcvzcDxm4uMq0TRjGYOo/3dB3JKTdCXsUdfEISMARuWy+VbS0WAFS5TOHWf4tbHVUVikO3wQ6YiuNyqorJ09D9PF7SjyzZu0VduGGv4LaaYBTdFhAsKVJKSUC4mYInXpRmaih+VKNmqNDQUGiVkVQKMgA= Received: by 10.54.27.29 with SMTP id a29mr107958wra; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:51:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:51:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:51:44 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Jim Trigg In-Reply-To: <57154.128.222.32.10.1103740963.squirrel@128.222.32.10> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <57154.128.222.32.10.1103740963.squirrel@128.222.32.10> cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Bagus Subject: Re: how to get it online X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:51:49 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:42:43 -0500 (EST), Jim Trigg wrote: > On Wed, December 22, 2004 1:30 pm, Joshua Lokken said: > > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:00:32 -0600, Bagus wrote: > >> > > >> > How did you setup the Linksys? Default (out-of-the-box) settings? > >> > >> plugged it in, plugged cable modem into uplink, plugged this pc into one > >> outlet, the freebsd box into another. PC works fine. Lights indicate > >> connectivity to bsd box. > >> > >> > Is the DHCP server turned on at the router? What does the status > >> > page of the router settings show? > >> > > >> > >> That's supposed to be http://192.168.1.1, isn't it? I can't access that > >> even > >> from my pc. Any advice there would be helpful. BTW, I'm using Cox as a > >> ISP. > > Not if you haven't reconfigured the router; the default is > http://192.168.0.1. [I wish I could site the exact model number] I just setup two Linksys 4-port 10/100 routers with wireless, and they were both set to 192.168.1.1 out of the box. In fact, that what's Linksys' website says, too: "When the browser window opens, go to the Address bar and type in the router's IP Address and click on the Go button (192.168.1.1 is the default IP address of Linksys Routers)." It's all in TFM ;) -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 18:58:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56EE116A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:58:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.mail.ru (mx2.mail.ru [194.67.23.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1166443D5D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:58:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@mail.ru) Received: from [83.237.13.145] (port=3194 helo=[172.17.0.69]) by mx2.mail.ru with esmtp id 1ChBgJ-000N5x-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:57:55 +0300 Message-ID: <41C9C3AD.6060109@mail.ru> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:57:49 +0300 From: "Andrew P." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected Subject: Samba installation from ports over NFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: infofarmer@mail.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:58:02 -0000 Hello! My /usr/ports is a network file-system. When I try to install samba 3 it says: satsmb# make install ===> samba-3.0.9,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf259 - found ===> samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: cups.2 - found ===> samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: popt.0 - found ===> samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: ldap-2.2.7 - found ===> samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: iconv.3 - found ===> Configuring for samba-3.0.9,1 autom4te259: cannot lock autom4te.cache/requests with mode 2 (perhaps you are running make -j on a lame NFS client?): Operation not supported *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba3. Can I fix this without learning all autoconf caveats? Best wishes, Andrew P. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 19:13:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346B316A4CF for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:13:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62A143D31 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:13:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id iBMJDO8T018292; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:13:24 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:13:24 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: "Andrew P." Message-ID: <20041222191324.GC36639@dan.emsphone.com> References: <41C9C3AD.6060109@mail.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C9C3AD.6060109@mail.ru> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Samba installation from ports over NFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:13:26 -0000 In the last episode (Dec 22), Andrew P. said: > My /usr/ports is a network file-system. When I try to install samba 3 it > says: > > satsmb# make install > ===> samba-3.0.9,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf259 - found > ===> samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: cups.2 - found > ===> samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: popt.0 - found > ===> samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: ldap-2.2.7 - found > ===> samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: iconv.3 - found > ===> Configuring for samba-3.0.9,1 > autom4te259: cannot lock autom4te.cache/requests with mode 2 (perhaps you are running make -j on a lame NFS client?): Operation not supported > *** Error code 1 Make sure you are running lockd and statd on client and server. In /etc/rc.conf: rpc_lockd_enable="YES" rpc_statd_enable="YES" -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 19:18:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF5416A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:18:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E938243D3F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:18:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ippiraman@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so1056rne for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:18:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=EE1UMzDQxHY2+W/b+d2gSzDeS0oxWOeazcW8vhs3e/Pgx2WYixMx7Knyppt0o3S0+xRdLT3cizbCx7NPbUYbor2N4qZ2lqoDzGQz361i7X1vOEzS66adjbKZhFigyNstwoPqOjyRlgf4lbaPN5j9rTft9cwD22TlZo5EQYmjcCQ= Received: by 10.38.5.73 with SMTP id 73mr66858rne; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:18:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.102.32 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:18:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:18:58 +0000 From: Irvin Piraman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <59FD5336D1B1FA40AF6DDD241D8DBAC6012BED67@amcw2ms517.amc.ds.af.mil> <004d01c4e84b$cdda17f0$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> Subject: Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Irvin Piraman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:18:59 -0000 > > Yeah, is writing to NTFS implemented now? >From the manpages: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=mount_ntfs&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+5.3-RELEASE+and+Ports&format=html WRITING There is limited writing ability. Limitations: file must be nonresident and must not contain any sparces (uninitialized areas); compressed files are also not supported. The file name must not contain multibyte charac- ters. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 19:27:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2980E16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:27:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F003F43D41 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:27:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6876A388E80; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:27:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:27:01 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: "Dott. Surricani" , questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4591fd91041222084112f01de8@mail.gmail.com> References: <4591fd91041222084112f01de8@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: problem with IPFILTER X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:27:02 -0000 --On Wednesday, December 22, 2004 05:41:30 PM +0100 "Dott. Surricani" wrote: > > ipf -Fa -f /etc/ipf.rules and > ipnat -CF -f /etc/ipnat.rules > > It's very boring.... > > What I can do to automate this task? > In /etc/rc.conf ipfilter_enable="YES" ipnat_enable="YES" Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 19:32:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B58016A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:32:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B7843D62 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:32:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 16980 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2004 19:32:58 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Dec 2004 19:32:58 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 1A9E244; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:32:58 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: sp0ng3b0b References: <2365.1103713625@www17.gmx.net> <41C9A99F.2010300@sbcglobal.net> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 22 Dec 2004 14:32:57 -0500 In-Reply-To: <41C9A99F.2010300@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <44ekhiruvq.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd_daemon cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with tar archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:32:59 -0000 sp0ng3b0b writes: > freebsd_daemon wrote: > > Dear list, > > I got a tar archive (varia.tar), when I try to un-tar it I get: > > # tar xvf ./varia.tar > > ../varia/ > > tar: ../varia/: Member name contains `..' > > ../varia/bkup200401.gz > > tar: ../varia/bkup200401.gz: Member name contains `..' > > [...] > > ../varia/bkup200411.gz > > tar: ../varia/bkup200411.gz: Member name contains `..' > > tar: Error exit delay from previous error > > Is there a way to un-tar that archive despite of that? > > TIA > > zheyu > > > I had some strange tar problems with bsd tar, which is included with > 5.3-RELEASE. I would recommend installing gtar and using that > instead. By the way, if you install gtar, you just type "tar" as you > normally would. With Gnu tar *or* BSD tar, you will need a '-P' option to extract directories that contain '..'. [It's very easy to overwrite something unintentionally if this capability were available by default.] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 19:38:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F57016A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:38:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail6.speakeasy.net (mail6.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2681C43D58 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:38:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 31033 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2004 19:38:30 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Dec 2004 19:38:30 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id B465D44; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:38:28 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: jcazor@ya.com References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 22 Dec 2004 14:38:28 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <44acs6rumj.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 11 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: problem with X in a laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:38:31 -0000 "jcazor@ya.com " writes: > the video card is a silicon motion, but the driver doesnt work, > so i used a generic VGA. > Now im using FreeBSD 5.3 with Xorg, but before i was using > debian with XF86 and i had the same problem, but i fixed it > startingthe X server with the "-dpi 100" but this now doesnt > work. You could always try XFree86 again; that certainly worked with the SiliconMotion video chip on my old HP laptop. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 19:38:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764DF16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:38:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA6443D48 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:38:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so2009wri for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:38:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=h3XX0zqWfHcCu5pExH6cfkAD/v7wwtw5KiRgH0B975ozfgBwEdh0DmJ/QWdO0SBKlfwM4JFOqGEFRDTmgHuQQdCAoWLU49O0JN80ksCfG4+7qlmphJDlvmTV1JeAPow3/28wL15V4C2IpUQR6SNjFGNn571VKUOqI/VOUvUldXw= Received: by 10.54.27.29 with SMTP id a29mr126828wra; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:38:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:38:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:38:52 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Irvin Piraman In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <59FD5336D1B1FA40AF6DDD241D8DBAC6012BED67@amcw2ms517.amc.ds.af.mil> <004d01c4e84b$cdda17f0$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:38:53 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:18:58 +0000, Irvin Piraman wrote: > > > Yeah, is writing to NTFS implemented now? > > >From the manpages: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=mount_ntfs&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+5.3-RELEASE+and+Ports&format=html > > WRITING > There is limited writing ability. Limitations: file must be nonresident > and must not contain any sparces (uninitialized areas); compressed files > are also not supported. The file name must not contain multibyte charac- > ters. Very nice! I hadn't looked into it for awhile... Thank you, Irvin :) -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 19:46:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AFE516A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:46:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D40A43D31 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:46:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tethys.ocean@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id y7so4174rne for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:46:17 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=s6NKbt8qOeM+oqgM79R4EBs7gJOiiZOdLpTQKJC/asTd6rM7J5X3KZg2M1Fng0zarkoDJqoY1cwozB3rjFKn47eCGnhufa4dLNAuzVLDDgaa8CzQksi4/PqAN8wMA/LdWub8abjiA3kLlp70AKcbguefVxMvxir8OT8sJmF+dGo= Received: by 10.38.96.16 with SMTP id t16mr131724rnb; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:46:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.66.67 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:46:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <235b800004122211464a2e9b94@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:46:17 +0200 From: tethys ocean To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: dmesg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: tethys ocean List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:46:19 -0000 I have a problem abaout dmesg .. whenever I said that dmesg sever give sto me some different log..=20 such a=20 connetsion atte=F6p to UDP 127.0.0.1:512 from 127.0.0.1:55519 why? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 19:46:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB9716A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:46:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outbox.allstream.net (outbox.allstream.net [207.245.244.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3B043D45 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:46:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from epilogue@allstream.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [216.123.133.87]) by outbox.allstream.net (Allstream MTA) with ESMTP id 63370621F; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:41:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:45:57 -0500 From: epilogue To: "Bagus" Message-ID: <20041222144557.5083d711@localhost> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to get it online X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:46:20 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:00:32 -0600 "Bagus" wrote: > > The FreeBSD Handbook is a great reference: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ > > Yes... there's more information there than I saw on first perusal. > Thanks, but I'm not out of the woods yet. since you seem to have missed a few rather important bits of handbook on your first read, let us check one more. are you by any chance using a custom kernel? if so, please confirm that it includes 'device bpf' (which is essential for DHCP). hth, epi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 19:51:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7925B16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:51:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.mail.ru (mx1.mail.ru [194.67.23.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E41143D1F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:51:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@mail.ru) Received: from [83.237.13.145] (port=3465 helo=[172.17.0.69]) by mx1.mail.ru with esmtp id 1ChCVh-0004IF-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:51:01 +0300 Message-ID: <41C9D01F.2020608@mail.ru> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:50:55 +0300 From: "Andrew P." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected Subject: rpc.lockd and statd fail to start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: infofarmer@mail.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:51:10 -0000 Hello! I got this: satsmb# rpc.statd rpc.statd: svc_tli_create: could not open connection for udp6 rpc.statd: svc_tp_create: Could not register prog 100024 vers 1 on udp rpc.statd: cannot create udp service satsmb# rpc.lockd rpc.lockd: unable to register (NLM_PROG, NLM_SM, udp) satsmb# uname -a FreeBSD satsmb.local 5.3-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Dec 22 01:59:37 MSK 2004 sat@satsmb.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SATSMBK i386 I googled and pipermailed, but there are very few references to these messages, and they are unsolved mostly. Below is my kernel config. INET6 was left out, but is it mandatory for rpc services? Both services work okay for me on FreeBSD-4.10 without INET6 compiled into kernel. machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident SATSMBK options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler options INET # InterNETworking options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options NFSCLIENT # Network Filesystem Client options NFSSERVER # Network Filesystem Server options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options COMPAT_43 # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options SCSI_DELAY=15000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options ADAPTIVE_GIANT # Giant mutex is adaptive. device apic # I/O APIC device isa device pci device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device ataraid # ATA RAID drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device vga # VGA video card driver device sc device npx device miibus # MII bus support device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II # Pseudo devices. device loop # Network loopback device mem # Memory and kernel memory devices device io # I/O device device random # Entropy device device ether # Ethernet support device tun # Packet tunnel. device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device bpf # Berkeley packet filter # Additional options option IPFIREWALL option IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT option DUMMYNET Best wishes, Andrew P. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 20:05:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF46916A4CE; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:05:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3E643D77; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:05:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20041222200533i92002abpte>; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:05:33 +0000 Message-ID: <41C9D389.9030602@nbritton.org> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:05:29 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Uwe Laverenz References: <41C81621.50906@nbritton.org> <20041221144829.GA5859@laverenz.de> In-Reply-To: <20041221144829.GA5859@laverenz.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Armada 17xx, ACPI thermal management broken. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:05:35 -0000 Uwe Laverenz wrote: >On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 06:25:05AM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > >>Any help would be appreciated on ether fixing this problem or a way to >>use ACPI but disable the thermal monitoring so the system can control >>the fan? >> >> > >I might be wrong, but I think on the 1750 you should use APM instead of >ACPI. I had a 1750 running with FreeBSD 4.x and APM and it worked very >well. > >cu, >Uwe > > > How?, I added it to my kernel "device apm", "device pmtimer", and "device amp_saver" and rebuilt it and in rc.conf I added apm_enable="YES", apmd_enable="YES" and I greped though default/loader.conf for anything but found nothing, after rebooting the only thing I get from dmesg is "WARNING: apm_saver module requires apm enabled" and when I type in apm I get "apm: can't open /dev/apm: No such file or directory", type in zzz and I get "apm: can't open /dev/apm: No such file or directory" I want ACPI!, APM is a last ditch hack to me, the name says it all "Advanced Configuration and Power Interface" there is a reason they switched to it. The 440BX chipset has full support for ACPI and therefore should work with FreeBSD and is a critical problem, what do you think might happen if you disable all your fans on your computer???. Please note that I'm not trying to diss FreeBSD in anyway for it being broken as I understand the issues with the DSDT, AML, and ASL stuff, I just want it to work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 20:05:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDEE416A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:05:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F1F43D55 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:05:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0A18551844; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:05:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:05:52 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Andrew P." Message-ID: <20041222200552.GB53171@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41C9D01F.2020608@mail.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nVMJ2NtxeReIH9PS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C9D01F.2020608@mail.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rpc.lockd and statd fail to start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:05:53 -0000 --nVMJ2NtxeReIH9PS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 10:50:55PM +0300, Andrew P. wrote: > Hello! >=20 > I got this: >=20 > satsmb# rpc.statd > rpc.statd: svc_tli_create: could not open connection for udp6 > rpc.statd: svc_tp_create: Could not register prog 100024 vers 1 on udp > rpc.statd: cannot create udp service > satsmb# rpc.lockd > rpc.lockd: unable to register (NLM_PROG, NLM_SM, udp) Are you running rpcbind? The udp6 warning is not by itself fatal, but the fact that it can't register anything with rpcbind is. Kris --nVMJ2NtxeReIH9PS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBydOgWry0BWjoQKURAkJaAJ4wqSj+TbECfrf3qOf0NUYmsGjEiwCbBDA0 Hp+KLew7s9+n3sEusj6zOaM= =kDG9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nVMJ2NtxeReIH9PS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 20:16:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C55616A4CF for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:16:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rogers.com (CPE00095bf5ff21-CM000f9f578d7a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [70.24.145.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC5343D66 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:16:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbell72@gardnerbell.ca) Received: from gardnerbell.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rogers.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBMKDICx044947 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:13:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gbell72@gardnerbell.ca) Received: (from gbell72@localhost) by gardnerbell.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBMKDD8Y044946 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:13:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gbell72) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:13:13 -0500 From: Gardner Bell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041222201313.GA44909@gardnerbell.ca> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Report Management Software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:16:43 -0000 Hi, I'm looking for a program similar to send-pr and diff that can provide customized reports on critical system configuration changes. I then want to have the report emailed to a central location on my network for later review. Does anyone know of any program within the ports tree that can accomplish this task? I would like the reports processed similar to a CVS diff file if at all possible. Thanks Gardner From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 20:22:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C547416A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:22:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail2.speakeasy.net (mail2.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8F243D49 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:22:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 12573 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2004 20:22:24 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Dec 2004 20:22:23 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id D222944; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:22:22 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Zachary Huang References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 22 Dec 2004 15:22:22 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <44oegmrsld.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 36 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unsuccessful upgrade from 4.2 to 4.10 through cvsup+make world X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:22:24 -0000 Zachary Huang writes: > the CVSUP must have worked since the directory /usr/home/ncvs has these files: > 325587 bytes: > > cyber# ls -l > -rw-r--r-- 1 root user 6355 Apr 30 2004 COPYRIGHT > -rw-r--r-- 1 root user 8480 Apr 16 2003 Makefile > -rw-r--r-- 1 root user 24190 May 25 2004 Makefile.inc1 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root user 9761 Aug 27 1999 Makefile.upgrade > -rw-r--r-- 1 root user 2699 Apr 26 2002 README > -rw-r--r-- 1 root user 44963 Dec 1 16:35 UPDATING > drwxr-xr-x 32 root user 512 Dec 21 20:32 bin > drwxr-xr-x 46 root user 1024 Dec 21 20:44 contrib > drwxr-xr-x 7 root user 512 Dec 21 20:48 crypto > drwxr-xr-x 14 root user 2048 Dec 21 20:48 etc > drwxr-xr-x 41 root user 1024 Dec 21 20:49 games > drwxr-xr-x 6 root user 512 Dec 21 20:51 gnu > drwxr-xr-x 6 root user 1536 Dec 21 20:51 include > drwxr-xr-x 7 root user 512 Dec 21 20:51 kerberos5 > drwxr-xr-x 8 root user 512 Dec 21 20:51 kerberosIV > drwxr-xr-x 57 root user 1536 Dec 21 20:54 lib > drwxr-xr-x 35 root user 1024 Dec 21 20:54 libexec > drwxr-xr-x 10 root user 512 Dec 21 20:55 release > drwxr-xr-x 82 root user 1536 Dec 21 20:55 sbin > drwxr-xr-x 6 root user 512 Dec 21 20:55 secure > drwxr-xr-x 23 root user 512 Dec 21 20:57 share > drwxr-xr-x 49 root user 1024 Dec 21 21:06 sys > drwxr-xr-x 8 root user 512 Dec 21 21:06 tools > drwxr-xr-x 221 root user 3584 Dec 21 21:08 usr.bin > drwxr-xr-x 157 root user 3072 Dec 21 21:10 usr.sbin > > so why were not the binary files updated? What did you actually do, what results did you expect, and what was the first place where the results you got were different? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 20:26:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6EC16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:26:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out012.verizon.net (out012pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D561343D64 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:26:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reso3w83@verizon.net) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.26.84.7]) by out012.verizon.net ESMTP <20041222202624.GLEW10436.out012.verizon.net@ringworm.mechee.com>; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:26:24 -0600 Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7935F2CE740; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:23:38 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: infofarmer@mail.ru Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:23:36 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <41C9C3AD.6060109@mail.ru> In-Reply-To: <41C9C3AD.6060109@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412221223.37330.reso3w83@verizon.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out012.verizon.net from [4.26.84.7] at Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:26:24 -0600 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Samba installation from ports over NFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:26:25 -0000 On Wednesday 22 December 2004 10:57 am, Andrew P. wrote: > Hello! > > My /usr/ports is a network file-system. When I try to install samba 3 > it says: > > satsmb# make install > ===> samba-3.0.9,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf259 - > found ===> samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: cups.2 - found > ===> samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: popt.0 - found ===> > samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: ldap-2.2.7 - found ===> > samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: iconv.3 - found ===> > Configuring for samba-3.0.9,1 > autom4te259: cannot lock autom4te.cache/requests with mode 2 (perhaps > you are running make -j on a lame NFS client?): Operation not > supported *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba3. > > > Can I fix this without learning all autoconf caveats? > > > Best wishes, > Andrew P. You can do something like make install WRKDIRPREFIX=/tmp if /tmp is on a local file system to get around the lock problem. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 20:28:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C3116A4EB for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:28:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post.com2com.ru (Post.com2com.ru [195.98.162.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A5043D2D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:28:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from apeter.subscribe@mail.ru) Received: from [172.30.12.177] (home-pool-173-2.com2com.ru [195.98.173.2]) by post.com2com.ru (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBMKSU6i082602 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:28:31 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:28:21 +0300 From: "Peter E. Antonov" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.11) Business X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15110538569.20041222232821@mail.ru> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Some questions about Dynamic disks support in FreeBSD and about NTFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Peter E. Antonov" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:28:35 -0000 Hello, freebsd-questions. Whether support of the dynamic disks created in Windows XP/2000 is planned in the near future? And how affairs with support NTFS are? Some links: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ - project implements the first full read/write free access to NTFS disk drives in GNU/Linux. http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net - NTFS support in Linux http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/info/ldm.html - some information about Windows Dynamic Disks -- WBR, Peter mailto: apeter.subscribe [{at}] mail.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 20:33:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C10516A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:33:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usw2.natel.net (2b.bz [209.152.117.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6EE9843D7F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:33:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 46881 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2004 20:32:57 -0000 Received: from batv-01-062.dialup.netins.net (HELO Htebazile.US-Webmasters.com) (216.248.109.63) by us-webmasters.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 20:32:57 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20041222143116.022e2ec0@209.152.117.178> X-Sender: wd@209.152.117.178 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:32:22 -0600 To: "Pervert Files" From: "W. D." In-Reply-To: <00f601c4e839$f69e35c0$c901a8c0@haklot> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best newsgroup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:33:01 -0000 At 09:21 12/22/2004, Pervert Files wrote: >Hello, > >What is the best newsgroup to read freebsd question. =20 >muc.lists.freebsd.questions doesn't seem to be updating with anything on my= =20 >news provider. > >-- >Thanks, >Jason pervert@pervertfiles.com You can also try: http://www.Mail-Archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/ Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 20:35:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DAD616A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:35:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post.com2com.ru (Post.com2com.ru [195.98.162.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D152443D31 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:35:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from apeter.subscribe@mail.ru) Received: from [172.30.12.177] (home-pool-173-2.com2com.ru [195.98.173.2]) by post.com2com.ru (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBMKZX4i091519; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:35:40 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:35:25 +0300 From: "Peter E. Antonov" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.11) Business X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <113068553.20041222233525@mail.ru> To: "P. B. S." In-Reply-To: <003501c4e842$2f46c830$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> References: <003501c4e842$2f46c830$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Peter E. Antonov" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:35:42 -0000 Hello, P.. You wrote 22 Dec 2004, 19:20:40: PBS> How can I do that? PBS> explore2fs is for ext2/3 only. PBS> I want to copy files from my FreeBSD filesystem (UFS2, I think?) using PBS> Windows. http://ffsdrv.sourceforge.net/ - FFS File System Driver for Windows It enables you to read BSD(FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD) FFS partitions on Windows 2000/XP/2003. -- WBR, Peter mailto: apeter.subscribe [{at}] mail.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 20:38:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A95E16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:38:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89D643D3F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:38:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.2/8.13.2) with ESMTP id iBMKccYV086706 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:38:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:38:38 -0800 Message-Id: <20041222203704.M67964@enabled.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 67.161.56.189 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: portmanager fails installing apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:38:40 -0000 FreeBSD-4.9 portmanager-0.2.0_3 well I am not able to find a specific mail list for portmanager support. anybody got clues why portmanager is having difficulies here and a nice cure would be helpful? --- snip --- pkg_create: can't find package 'apache-1.3.33_1' installed! ------------------------------------------------ cd /usr/ports/www/apache13; make deinstall ===> Deinstalling for www/apache13 ===> apache not installed, skipping ------------------------------------------------ cd /usr/ports/www/apache13; make reinstall ===> Installing for apache-1.3.33_1 ===> apache-1.3.33_1 conflicts with installed package(s): apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache13. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache13. pmupgrade 0.2.0_3 error: make reinstall returned an error, cannot continue # pkg_info | grep apache apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 The Apache 1.3 webserver with SSL/TLS functionality --- snip --- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 20:44:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6364916A4D2 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:44:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (fia148-72.dsl.hccnet.nl [62.251.72.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E3A43D41 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:44:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id iBMKi5b13032; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:44:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:44:04 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Brian Clapper In-Reply-To: <200412221454.iBMEsUSj008823@condor.inside.clapper.org> Message-ID: References: <41C8F39A.30104@makeworld.com> <200412221454.iBMEsUSj008823@condor.inside.clapper.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: RL cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:44:28 -0000 On Dec 22, Brian Clapper launched this into the bitstream: > On 21 December, 2004, at 23:12 (-0500) > RL wrote: > >> What's the most popular option? Is it buying a business DSL or T1 >> service or is it to colocate it? All of them are pricey. :( > > Depending on where you are, you may have other options as well. > > I'm in the Philadelphia, PA, area. I have a somewhat non-standard DSL > arrangement that works very well for me. Verizon supplies the wire and the > DSL signal (as well as my local phone service), but I use someone else--a > so-called Verizon partner ISP--as my ISP. My ISP handles all the billing, > and they will give me up to 5 static IP addresses. (I currently use 2.) I > provide my own forward DNS, SMTP and HTTP services. My ISP has no problem > providing me with DNS PTR records for the assigned IPs; doing a "dig -x" on > the address returned for my domain's MX address yields a PTR record that > refers back to my domain. If, for some reason, I want to change the PTR > record, I simply drop them an email; they usually take care of it within in > hour or so. If I want another static IP address, the procedure and > turnaround time are comparable. > > There *is* a small price for this extra functionality: I pay about $10-$15 > more per month than if I were to go with a "native" Verizon DSL set up. I > pay $44.95/month for 1.5Mbps/384Kbps ADSL. For native Verizon, a > month-to-month plan is $34.95/mo, and a plan with a 1-year commitment is > $29.95/month. But Verizon will not give me static IPs for that price; the > extra monthly cost is worth it to me. > > I have had this arrangment for almost 5 years; 5 years ago, the monthly > cost was higher and the bandwidth was lower. The cost and bandwidth have > only improved over time. I had the same arrangement, but in the Westchester NY area. My local ISP wangled a deal to resell the Verizon SDSL offering and man but didn't they ever do one fine job. If...IF you're in or close to Westchester NY (New York City, Westchester, Rockland, Putnam, Dutchess, Orange, Sullivan, Ulster, and Long Island), as well as part of Connecticut (Greenwich), all of New Jersey, and eastern Massachusetts) *do* consider giving Cloud9 Internet a call. They rock(ed) back when I lived there. http://www.cloud9.net and/or (914) 696 4000. I just checked the site to be sure I gave the right number, I did...and that was from memory!! :-) Regards & Greetings from The Netherlands, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven Wed Dec 22 21:43:00 CET 2004 9:43PM up 6 days, 2:33, 7 users, load averages: 1.16, 1.36, 1.40 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 21:39:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E16416A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:39:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postit.mail.adnap.net.au (postit.mail.adnap.net.au [203.6.132.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23EDF43D45 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:39:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bastill@adam.com.au) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (202-6-154-250.ip.adam.com.au [202.6.154.250]) by postit.mail.adnap.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66BE1C651; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:09:42 +1030 (CST) From: Brian Astill To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Joshua Lokken Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:09:31 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <003501c4e842$2f46c830$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200412230809.31238.bastill@adam.com.au> cc: "P. B. S." Subject: Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:39:44 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:39 am, Joshua Lokken wrote: > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:20:40 +0200, P. B. S. wrote: > > How can I do that? > > explore2fs is for ext2/3 only. > > > > I want to copy files from my FreeBSD filesystem (UFS2, I think?) > > using Windows. > > http://us1.samba.org/samba/ > > # cd /usr/ports/net/samba3 > # make install clean > > Then you can share your FreeBSD files over Samba, and have > access to them from your Winboxen. That's fine for two separate boxes, but has no hope whatsoever is the Windoze and FBSD OSs are in the same box (perhaps even on the same drive). -- Regards, Brian sos-sa.org.au From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 21:43:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3C316A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:43:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from levanto.mail.adnap.net.au (levanto.mail.adnap.net.au [203.6.132.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E0443D41 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:43:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bastill@adam.com.au) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (202-6-154-250.ip.adam.com.au [202.6.154.250]) by levanto.mail.adnap.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53BF65C0B; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:12:08 +1030 (CST) From: Brian Astill To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:13:11 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <59FD5336D1B1FA40AF6DDD241D8DBAC6012BED67@amcw2ms517.amc.ds.af.mil> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200412230813.11792.bastill@adam.com.au> cc: Bart Silverstrim Subject: Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:43:24 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:47 pm, Bart Silverstrim wrote: > Another option...an external hard disk formatted FAT so both could > see it? Fat limit is 2G. VFAT would be better - unless you run WinNT, in which case you are stuck with either multiple 2G FAT partitions on that external disk or NTFS which imposes other limitations. Ain't M$ clever? -- Regards, Brian sos-sa.org.au From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 21:45:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8228416A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:45:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.uol.com.br (smtpout1.uol.com.br [200.221.4.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7DC43D3F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:45:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from giulianocm@uol.com.br) Received: from [201.1.135.200] (unknown [201.1.135.200]) by scorpion1.uol.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7719DCF5 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:45:49 -0200 (BRST) Message-ID: <41C9EB0C.6070706@uol.com.br> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:45:48 -0200 From: Giuliano Cardozo Medalha Organization: WZTECH User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ASterisk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: giulianocm@uol.com.br List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:45:52 -0000 All, Does anyone knows if modem generic - Ambient MD3200 - works with asterisk in freebsd 5.3 ? There is some special thing to do about it ? Thanks a lot, Giuliano From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 21:47:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26F216A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:47:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out014.verizon.net (out014pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FAC43D39 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:47:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reso3w83@verizon.net) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.26.84.7]) by out014.verizon.net ESMTP <20041222214707.JEOS28388.out014.verizon.net@ringworm.mechee.com>; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:47:07 -0600 Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CDD622CE740; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:44:21 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:44:18 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20041222203704.M67964@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <20041222203704.M67964@enabled.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412221344.19856.reso3w83@verizon.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out014.verizon.net from [4.26.84.7] at Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:47:07 -0600 cc: Noah Subject: Re: portmanager fails installing apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:47:09 -0000 On Wednesday 22 December 2004 12:38 pm, Noah wrote: > FreeBSD-4.9 > portmanager-0.2.0_3 > > > well I am not able to find a specific mail list for portmanager > support. anybody got clues why portmanager is having difficulies here > and a nice cure would be helpful? > Usually people with portmanager problems just email me directly, my address is listed in the makefile (ringworm@inbox.lv but will soon be changed to reso3w83@verizon.net). Mentioning problems here in freebsd-questions@freebsd.org or ports@freebsd.org is OK as I follow both of these. > > --- snip --- > > pkg_create: can't find package 'apache-1.3.33_1' installed! > ------------------------------------------------ > cd /usr/ports/www/apache13; make deinstall > ===> Deinstalling for www/apache13 > ===> apache not installed, skipping > ------------------------------------------------ > cd /usr/ports/www/apache13; make reinstall > ===> Installing for apache-1.3.33_1 > > ===> apache-1.3.33_1 conflicts with installed package(s): > apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 Well here is your problem, apache+mod_ssl-1.* is listed under CONFLICTS in /usr/ports/www/apache13/Makefile. Try pkg_delete -f apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 then rerun portmanager -u -Mike > > They install files into the same place. > Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache13. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache13. > pmupgrade 0.2.0_3 error: make reinstall returned an error, cannot > continue # pkg_info | grep apache > apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 The Apache 1.3 webserver with SSL/TLS > functionality > > --- snip --- > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 21:49:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3930F16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:49:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86D543D46 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:49:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ippiraman@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so17911rne for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:49:05 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=hRahxrQsq2/jZFCPxv5hXriH1jFyhLLJtpcut2tJ99eOKAzMQxIe7PmOPMCGshsR0I8Md8dTaV6XD464LZGnGwNxGndKfcUbo2Azr84nO9+xIXWp+jpR3t2f4249vJxXJic2sEviW5IBLzlLkgc2tEDWCK6nFNMYh3gXUO0k+c8= Received: by 10.38.151.29 with SMTP id y29mr628989rnd; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:49:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.102.32 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:49:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:49:04 +0000 From: Irvin Piraman To: Brian Astill , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200412230813.11792.bastill@adam.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <59FD5336D1B1FA40AF6DDD241D8DBAC6012BED67@amcw2ms517.amc.ds.af.mil> <200412230813.11792.bastill@adam.com.au> Subject: Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Irvin Piraman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:49:06 -0000 This has been posted and re-posted: If you want to view any BSD filesystem running on the same box as Windows, you can use the FFS File System Driver for Windows: http://ffsdrv.sourceforge.net HTH Irvin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 21:54:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D53116A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:54:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cyclone.mail.adnap.net.au (cyclone.mail.adnap.net.au [203.6.132.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03B843D45 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:54:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bastill@adam.com.au) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (202-6-154-250.ip.adam.com.au [202.6.154.250]) by cyclone.mail.adnap.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE3799170; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:27:27 +1030 (CST) From: Brian Astill To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Peter E. Antonov" Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:24:05 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <003501c4e842$2f46c830$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> <113068553.20041222233525@mail.ru> In-Reply-To: <113068553.20041222233525@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200412230824.05307.bastill@adam.com.au> cc: "P. B. S." Subject: Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:54:18 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:35 pm, Peter E. Antonov wrote: > http://ffsdrv.sourceforge.net/ - FFS File System Driver for Windows > It enables you to read BSD(FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD) FFS partitions > on Windows 2000/XP/2003. Anyone know whether FFS works on other Windoze flavours? (I'm going to try it on NT, soon.) Sourceforge is also the source for the FFS driver. -- Regards, Brian sos-sa.org.au From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 21:54:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F23516A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:54:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.theswamp.org (rrcs-24-73-208-46.se.biz.rr.com [24.73.208.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72FF843D45 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:54:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@theswamp.org) Received: from [192.168.131.101] (unknown [192.168.131.101]) by mail.theswamp.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9847619A13; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:57:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41C9ED30.2000803@theswamp.org> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:54:56 -0500 From: Mark Thomas User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joshua Lokken References: <000601c4e78e$c13ed7f0$a23db918@D1TWQX41> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VIM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:54:18 -0000 Joshua Lokken wrote: > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:56:18 -0500, Leon wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I have installed a VIM editor. >>When I create a new file with this editor, I can't type anything. >>What is wrong. > Look at the tutor that comes with Vim. Try (from a shell) vimtutor. If that doesn't work try /usr/local/share/vim/vim63/tutor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 22:01:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AEE516A4FF for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:00:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp802.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp802.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF39D43D3F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:00:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamera@pacbell.net) Received: from unknown (HELO gamerasmog.com) (gamera@pacbell.net@64.173.26.30 with login) by smtp802.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 22:00:05 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:00:02 -0800 From: Joshua Tinnin To: Peterhin Message-ID: <20041222220002.GA28294@gamerasmog.com> References: <200412221609.25259.hindrich@worldchat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200412221609.25259.hindrich@worldchat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:01:00 -0000 Make sure to cc the list with replies, as it helps others who might be having similar problems, and more people can contribute to helping you. On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 04:09:25PM -0500, Peterhin wrote: > Hello jt > > Thanks for the info. For reference, that was the FreeBSD vs. Linux comparison: http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php No problem. I tend to feel the same way as the author, and that's about how I explain the differences to others. > I read the whole site as you suggested, very good info. > I do have a further question regarding, first which version I should start > with, I have done some reading and it looks like 4.10 (Please correct me if I > am wrong) Well, you should look at what hardware you need and what's supported, but for the most part I'd recommend 5.3, as it's the newest RELEASE. I've found it to be stable, and hardware support is better than in 4.10. Of course there are other considerations, but for a newbie I'd recommend the newest release based on better hardware support as a primary consideration. > Also I have a Serial ATA hard drive, (Western Digital) which I can't seem to > find in either version 4 or 5. equipment list. Do you know if it is > supported.? I'm not sure about SATA, but this subject has come up on the list many times. Check the archives, or perhaps someone else will know about your specific hardware. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 22:03:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7368F16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:03:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD5343D54 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:03:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bees.msu@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so19519rne for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:03:06 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oT1wSMBhQMreDlv7+CRV9lts/OxPYSj0u+w2pGc52fGsDNZu2+VBBeHT9joxg2Z/VzGtke9/9qDYHKox32Ec33ZevAKEHEnvwPwrF+GFWi7tbQug7QkXtwyW1FSCRaPIB7zFp+L1+9ATva2mURyrWelLuAdHtX5RoCnT/wd46MY= Received: by 10.38.22.57 with SMTP id 57mr158994rnv; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:03:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.12.78 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:03:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:03:05 -0500 From: Zachary Huang To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: help with installing Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Zachary Huang List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:03:07 -0000 I am still trying to install Java (to FreeBSD 4.8), which is needed for Tomcat. Are the instructions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/java-tomcat/x60.html outdated? If you follow the instructions, you cannot find the file j2sdk-1_3_1_10-linux-i386.bin at sun.com. so 1). where can I find this file? or 2). are there other instructions on the web to go a different route? thanks. Zachary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 22:13:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E5316A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:13:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from newalpha.avalonworks.net (newalpha.avalonworks.net [216.58.97.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CEB43D53 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:13:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hindrich@worldchat.com) Received: from Brampton-ppp70253.sympatico.ca (Brampton-ppp70253.sympatico.ca [216.208.60.46])iBMMDT2T044780 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:13:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hindrich@worldchat.com) From: Peterhin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:13:40 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412221713.40345.hindrich@worldchat.com> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/633/Thu Dec 16 20:56:33 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on newalpha.avalonworks.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Serial ATA? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:13:32 -0000 I would like to move over to FreeBSD from Linux, only been there for a year. I am starting at groung zero. I have read the hardware list for 4.9 STABLE and 5.2.1 RELEASE. All I can find in 3.1 "Disk Controller with Promise ATA100/133 OEM chip (pdc20265/69) I am using a ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, with a Promise PDC20378 Raid Controller and a Western Digital Serial ATA H.D. Will FreeBSD work.? Thanks. Peter "Peace is never more than one thought away" GNU/Linux Freedom http://libranet.com http://www.fsf.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 22:25:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374C616A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:25:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from Webshield1.kwe.com (webshield1.kwe.com [202.19.126.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CBDD43D41 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:25:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from faisal.ali@kwe.com) Received: From JER3000041 ([10.0.32.174]) by Webshield1.kwe.com (WebShield SMTP v4.5 MR1a P0803.345); id 110373288978; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:28:09 +0000 From: "Faisal Ali" To: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:25:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C4E84B.45D75E30" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcTodS5l+ejzwYstTKqZFsRenBqA3g== Message-Id: <20041222222547.7CBDD43D41@mx1.FreeBSD.org> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Vinum bootable RAID-1 setup help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:25:48 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C4E84B.45D75E30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I really tried my best to follow the FreeBSD handbook documentation to setup bootable RAID-1 volume, I just can't seem to understand Section 17.9.2, Iam working with 5.3 i386 Release. Attached is the output of what I have done so far. Please tell me how do I apply section 17.9.2 next. Sorry to ask such a lengthy question, but Iam contacting you after trying my utmost to follow the documentation. A quick history.I have setup FreeBSD 5.3 on HP NetServer containing two 4.26GB hotswappble Ultra2 SCSI drives. Thankyou Faisal Ali Network Engineer Kintetsu Global IT Inc. 100 Jericho Quadrangle, Suite 144 Jericho, NY 11753 ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C4E84B.45D75E30 Content-Type: text/plain; name="vinum bootable RAID-1 setup.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vinum bootable RAID-1 setup.txt" #df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1a 253678 35414 197970 15% / devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev /dev/da0s1e 253678 6 233378 0% /tmp /dev/da0s1f 2274424 376192 1716280 18% /usr /dev/da0s1d 253678 466 232918 0% /var #bsdlabel -e /dev/da0s1 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 524288 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 b: 2045808 524288 swap c: 8321607 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, = don't edit d: 524288 2570096 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 e: 524288 3094384 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 f: 4702935 3618672 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 #bsdlabel -e /dev/da1s1 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 524288 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 b: 2045808 524288 swap c: 8321607 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, = don't edit d: 524288 2570096 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 e: 524288 3094384 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 f: 4702935 3618672 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 # more /etc/fstab Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump = Pass# /dev/da0s1b none swap sw 0 = 0 /dev/da0s1a / ufs rw 1 = 1 /dev/da0s1e /tmp ufs rw 2 = 2 /dev/da0s1f /usr ufs rw 2 = 2 /dev/da0s1d /var ufs rw 2 = 2 /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 = 0 #vinum vinum -> mirror -v -n root-a /dev/da0s1a /dev/da1s1a vinum -> mirror -v -n swap-b /dev/da0s1b /dev/da1s1b vinum -> mirror -v -n tmp-e /dev/da0s1e /dev/da1s1e vinum -> mirror -v -n usr-f /dev/da0s1f /dev/da1s1f vinum -> mirror -v -n var-d /dev/da0s1d /dev/da1s1d vinum -> list 10 drives: D vinumdrive0 State: up /dev/da0s1a A: 0/256 MB (0%) D vinumdrive1 State: up /dev/da1s1a A: 0/256 MB (0%) D vinumdrive2 State: up /dev/da0s1b A: 0/998 MB (0%) D vinumdrive3 State: up /dev/da1s1b A: 0/998 MB (0%) D vinumdrive4 State: up /dev/da0s1e A: 0/256 MB (0%) D vinumdrive5 State: up /dev/da1s1e A: 0/256 MB (0%) D vinumdrive6 State: up /dev/da0s1f A: 0/2296 MB = (0%) D vinumdrive7 State: up /dev/da1s1f A: 0/2296 MB = (0%) D vinumdrive8 State: up /dev/da0s1d A: 0/256 MB (0%) D vinumdrive9 State: up /dev/da1s1d A: 0/256 MB (0%) 5 volumes: V root-a State: up Plexes: 2 Size: 255 = MB V swap-b State: up Plexes: 2 Size: 998 = MB V tmp-e State: up Plexes: 2 Size: 255 = MB V usr-f State: up Plexes: 2 Size: 2296 = MB V var-d State: up Plexes: 2 Size: 255 = MB 10 plexes: P root-a.p0 C State: up Subdisks: 1 Size: 255 = MB P root-a.p1 C State: up Subdisks: 1 Size: 255 = MB P swap-b.p0 C State: up Subdisks: 1 Size: 998 = MB P swap-b.p1 C State: up Subdisks: 1 Size: 998 = MB P tmp-e.p0 C State: up Subdisks: 1 Size: 255 = MB P tmp-e.p1 C State: up Subdisks: 1 Size: 255 = MB P usr-f.p0 C State: up Subdisks: 1 Size: 2296 = MB P usr-f.p1 C State: up Subdisks: 1 Size: 2296 = MB P var-d.p0 C State: up Subdisks: 1 Size: 255 = MB P var-d.p1 C State: up Subdisks: 1 Size: 255 = MB 10 subdisks: S root-a.p0.s0 State: up D: vinumdrive0 Size: 255 = MB S root-a.p1.s0 State: up D: vinumdrive1 Size: 255 = MB S swap-b.p0.s0 State: up D: vinumdrive2 Size: 998 = MB S swap-b.p1.s0 State: up D: vinumdrive3 Size: 998 = MB S tmp-e.p0.s0 State: up D: vinumdrive4 Size: 255 = MB S tmp-e.p1.s0 State: up D: vinumdrive5 Size: 255 = MB S usr-f.p0.s0 State: up D: vinumdrive6 Size: 2296 = MB S usr-f.p1.s0 State: up D: vinumdrive7 Size: 2296 = MB S var-d.p0.s0 State: up D: vinumdrive8 Size: 255 = MB S var-d.p1.s0 State: up D: vinumdrive9 Size: 255 = MB vinum -> quit # vinum l -rv root-a Volume root-a: Size: 268299776 bytes (255 MB) State: up Flags: 2 plexes Read policy: round robin Plex root-a.p0: Size: 268299776 bytes (255 MB) Subdisks: 1 State: up Organization: concat Part of volume root-a Plex root-a.p1: Size: 268299776 bytes (255 MB) Subdisks: 1 State: up Organization: concat Part of volume root-a Subdisk root-a.p0.s0: Size: 268299776 bytes (255 MB) State: up Plex root-a.p0 at offset 0 (0 B) Drive vinumdrive0 (/dev/da0s1a) at offset 135680 (132 = kB) Subdisk root-a.p1.s0: Size: 268299776 bytes (255 MB) State: up Plex root-a.p1 at offset 0 (0 B) Drive vinumdrive1 (/dev/da1s1a) at offset 135680 (132 = kB) # dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. 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FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC MPTable: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (399.32-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x652 Stepping =3D 2 = Features=3D0x183fbff real memory =3D 536870912 (512 MB) avail memory =3D 515694592 (491 MB) ioapic0: Assuming intbase of 0 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 4.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port = 0xfcd0-0xfcdf,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0 -0x1f7 at device 4.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xfce0-0xfcff at = device 4.2 on pci0 pcib0: unable to route slot 4 INTD uhci0: Could not allocate irq device_attach: uhci0 attach returned 6 pci0: at device 4.3 (no driver attached) pcib1: at device 7.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 sym0: <895> port 0xe400-0xe4ff mem = 0xfebfd000-0xfebfdfff,0xfebff400-0xfebff4ff irq 10 at device 6.0 on pci1 sym0: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, LVD, parity checking sym0: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM sym0: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware. sym0: [GIANT-LOCKED] sym1: <895> port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem = 0xfebfe000-0xfebfefff,0xfebff800-0xfebff8ff irq 11 at device 7.0 on pci1 sym1: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, LVD, parity checking sym1: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM sym1: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware. sym1: [GIANT-LOCKED] pci0: at device 7.1 (no driver attached) pcib2: at device 8.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 fxp0: port 0xdcc0-0xdcdf mem = 0xfe800000-0xfe8fffff,0xefffd 000-0xefffdfff irq 15 at device 3.0 on pci2 miibus0: on fxp0 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:90:27:61:2b:74 pci0: at device 11.0 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 13.0 (no driver attached) cpu0 on motherboard orm0: at iomem 0xc8000-0xcbfff,0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on = isa0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on = isa0 unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) ppc1: parallel port not found. unknown: can't assign resources (irq) unknown: can't assign resources (port) Timecounter "TSC" frequency 399320623 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec acd0: CDROM at ata0-master PIO4 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle (noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered. (noperiph:sym1:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered. da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing = Enabled da0: 4067MB (8330543 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 518C) da1 at sym0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing = Enabled da1: 4067MB (8330543 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 518C) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a vinum: loaded vinum: drive vinumdrive0 is up vinum: drive vinumdrive1 is up vinum: root-a.p0.s0 is up vinum: root-a.p1.s0 is up vinum: root-a.p0 is up vinum: root-a is up vinum: drive vinumdrive2 is up vinum: drive vinumdrive3 is up vinum: swap-b.p0.s0 is up vinum: swap-b.p1.s0 is up vinum: swap-b.p0 is up vinum: swap-b is up vinum: drive vinumdrive4 is up vinum: drive vinumdrive5 is up vinum: tmp-e.p0.s0 is up vinum: tmp-e.p1.s0 is up vinum: tmp-e.p0 is up vinum: tmp-e is up vinum: drive vinumdrive6 is up vinum: drive vinumdrive7 is up vinum: usr-f.p0.s0 is up vinum: usr-f.p1.s0 is up vinum: usr-f.p0 is up vinum: usr-f is up vinum: drive vinumdrive8 is up vinum: drive vinumdrive9 is up vinum: var-d.p0.s0 is up vinum: var-d.p1.s0 is up vinum: var-d.p0 is up vinum: var-d is up # ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C4E84B.45D75E30-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 22:30:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E02416A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:30:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561EE43D46 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:30:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.2/8.13.2) with ESMTP id iBMMTwil017182; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:29:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: "Michael C. Shultz" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:29:58 -0800 Message-Id: <20041222222923.M65943@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <200412221344.19856.reso3w83@verizon.net> References: <20041222203704.M67964@enabled.com> <200412221344.19856.reso3w83@verizon.net> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 67.161.56.189 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: portmanager fails installing apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:30:00 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:44:18 -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote > On Wednesday 22 December 2004 12:38 pm, Noah wrote: > > FreeBSD-4.9 > > portmanager-0.2.0_3 > > > > > > well I am not able to find a specific mail list for portmanager > > support. anybody got clues why portmanager is having difficulies here > > and a nice cure would be helpful? > > > Usually people with portmanager problems just email me directly, > my address is listed in the makefile (ringworm@inbox.lv but will > soon be changed to reso3w83@verizon.net). Mentioning problems here > in freebsd-questions@freebsd.org or ports@freebsd.org is OK as I > follow both of these. > > > > --- snip --- > > > > pkg_create: can't find package 'apache-1.3.33_1' installed! > > ------------------------------------------------ > > cd /usr/ports/www/apache13; make deinstall > > ===> Deinstalling for www/apache13 > > ===> apache not installed, skipping > > ------------------------------------------------ > > cd /usr/ports/www/apache13; make reinstall > > ===> Installing for apache-1.3.33_1 > > > > ===> apache-1.3.33_1 conflicts with installed package(s): > > apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 > > Well here is your problem, apache+mod_ssl-1.* > is listed under CONFLICTS in /usr/ports/www/apache13/Makefile. > Try pkg_delete -f apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 then rerun > portmanager -u did that and this is what I am ending up with. this also is happening with lynx-ssl as well. cheers, Noah > > -Mike > > > > They install files into the same place. > > Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache13. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache13. > > pmupgrade 0.2.0_3 error: make reinstall returned an error, cannot > > continue # pkg_info | grep apache > > apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 The Apache 1.3 webserver with SSL/TLS > > functionality > > > > --- snip --- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 22:30:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B1816A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:30:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (fia148-72.dsl.hccnet.nl [62.251.72.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D69843D1F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:30:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id iBMMUBe13926; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:30:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:30:10 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Peterhin In-Reply-To: <200412221713.40345.hindrich@worldchat.com> Message-ID: References: <200412221713.40345.hindrich@worldchat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serial ATA? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:30:25 -0000 On Dec 22, Peterhin launched this into the bitstream: > I would like to move over to FreeBSD from Linux, only been there for a year. > > I am starting at groung zero. I have read the hardware list for 4.9 STABLE and > 5.2.1 RELEASE. All I can find in 3.1 "Disk Controller with Promise ATA100/133 > OEM chip (pdc20265/69) I am using a ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, with a > Promise PDC20378 Raid Controller and a Western Digital Serial ATA H.D. Will > FreeBSD work.? I don't mean this in either a bad or saracstic way whatsoever, but more in the spirit of "give it a shot and see what happens"......so......... Give it a shot and see what happens. You won't lose anything by taking that approach, if the RAID controller is *not* recognized you won't be able to commence an installation. Write your data to CD/DVD first, then "go for it" Honestly, I can't think of a method more certain to verify whether or not your RAID controller is supported. While you're at it, go for 5.3-RELEASE...why stop at the earlier version? There *is* mention (of course) of the Promise RAID controller at: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/relnotes-i386.html#PROC and it looks sorta hopeful for you. and I quote; [snip] The ata(4) driver now supports cardbus(4) ATA/SATA controllers. A number of bugs in the ata(4) driver have been fixed. Most notably, master/slave device detection should work better, and some problems with timeouts should be resolved. The ata(4) driver now supports the Promise command sequencer present on all modern Promise controllers (PDC203** PDC206**). Note: This also adds preliminary support for the Promise SX4/SX4000 as a ``normal'' Promise ATA controller; ATA RAID's are supported, but only RAID0, RAID1, and RAID0+1 [/snip] Good luck! and do please let us know if you were successful or not. Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven Wed Dec 22 23:27:00 CET 2004 11:27PM up 6 days, 4:17, 8 users, load averages: 1.40, 1.29, 1.26 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 22:41:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4F216A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:41:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pipefish.mweb.co.za (pipefish.mweb.co.za [196.2.45.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E65943D1D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:41:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ASingh@DigitalXP.co.za) Received: from assocsoft0001 (c1-76-1.pmb.dial.mweb.co.za [196.23.34.76]) by pipefish.mweb.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A87865D9F; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:41:17 +0200 (SAST) From: "Singh, Ajith (ZA - Pietermaritzburg)" To: "'Brian Astill'" , , "'Peter E. Antonov'" Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:41:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcTocPZVJjflIOQ0Qgyr+MV+V47UDgABkCNw In-Reply-To: <200412230824.05307.bastill@adam.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-Id: <20041222224117.0A87865D9F@pipefish.mweb.co.za> cc: "'P. B. S.'" Subject: RE: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ASingh@DigitalXP.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:41:34 -0000 Try http://ffsdrv.sourceforge.net/ Also, try Filezilla. Ajith Singh Pietermaritzburg South Africa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 22:49:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E545316A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:49:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out012.verizon.net (out012pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5866543D2F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:49:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reso3w83@verizon.net) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.26.84.7]) by out012.verizon.net ESMTP <20041222224946.IHTL10436.out012.verizon.net@ringworm.mechee.com>; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:49:46 -0600 Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 757112CE740; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:47:01 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:46:59 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20041222203704.M67964@enabled.com> <200412221344.19856.reso3w83@verizon.net> <20041222222923.M65943@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <20041222222923.M65943@enabled.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412221447.00614.reso3w83@verizon.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out012.verizon.net from [4.26.84.7] at Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:49:46 -0600 cc: Noah Subject: Re: portmanager fails installing apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:49:48 -0000 On Wednesday 22 December 2004 02:29 pm, Noah wrote: > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:44:18 -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote > > > On Wednesday 22 December 2004 12:38 pm, Noah wrote: > > > FreeBSD-4.9 > > > portmanager-0.2.0_3 > > > > > > > > > well I am not able to find a specific mail list for portmanager > > > support. anybody got clues why portmanager is having difficulies > > > here and a nice cure would be helpful? > > > > Usually people with portmanager problems just email me directly, > > my address is listed in the makefile (ringworm@inbox.lv but will > > soon be changed to reso3w83@verizon.net). Mentioning problems here > > in freebsd-questions@freebsd.org or ports@freebsd.org is OK as I > > follow both of these. > > > > > --- snip --- > > > > > > pkg_create: can't find package 'apache-1.3.33_1' installed! > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > > cd /usr/ports/www/apache13; make deinstall > > > ===> Deinstalling for www/apache13 > > > ===> apache not installed, skipping > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > > cd /usr/ports/www/apache13; make reinstall > > > ===> Installing for apache-1.3.33_1 > > > > > > ===> apache-1.3.33_1 conflicts with installed package(s): > > > apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 > > > > Well here is your problem, apache+mod_ssl-1.* > > is listed under CONFLICTS in /usr/ports/www/apache13/Makefile. > > Try pkg_delete -f apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 then rerun > > portmanager -u > > did that and this is what I am ending up with. this also is > happening with lynx-ssl as well. Try: ls /var/db/pkg and see if you have a /var/db/pkg/apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 directory, if you do then you probably ran pkg_delete apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 instead of pkg_delete -f apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 If you don't have that directory, then let me know, it will cause me to install the apache ports on my system in an attempt to duplicate your problem. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 23:08:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33CD716A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:08:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out010.verizon.net (out010pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB53243D1F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:08:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.252.53]) by out010.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041222230840.HQDC24714.out010.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:08:40 -0600 Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 08C3E11863; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:08:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:08:14 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041222230813.GA77071@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41C8F39A.30104@makeworld.com> <200412221454.iBMEsUSj008823@condor.inside.clapper.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out010.verizon.net from [68.163.252.53] at Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:08:39 -0600 Subject: Re: Running own servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:08:41 -0000 On 12/22/04 09:44 PM, Colin J. Raven sat at the `puter and typed: > > > I had the same arrangement, but in the Westchester NY area. My local ISP > wangled a deal to resell the Verizon SDSL offering and man but didn't > they ever do one fine job. > > If...IF you're in or close to Westchester NY (New York City, > Westchester, Rockland, Putnam, Dutchess, Orange, Sullivan, Ulster, and > Long Island), as well as part of Connecticut (Greenwich), all of New > Jersey, and eastern Massachusetts) *do* consider giving Cloud9 Internet > a call. They rock(ed) back when I lived there. http://www.cloud9.net > and/or (914) 696 4000. I just checked the site to be sure I gave the > right number, I did...and that was from memory!! :-) > > Regards & Greetings from The Netherlands, > -Colin I just checked them out via email (I'm just a hop west of Boston). I gave them my phone #, address, and told they they could check out my eligibility. I got an almost immediate response, and they ensure me service availability should be no more than a day, with downtime no longer than that required for me to set up PPPoE, which shouldn't be long, considering I already have a working PPPoE config with Verizon. Maybe just a minor reconfig? As far as use, they don't care so long as the government doesn't say it's illegal. Cool. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ԿԬ Unnamed Law: If it happens, it must be possible. 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Thank you and Happy Holidays :) Robert Fitzpatrick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 23:10:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8FF16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:10:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from seadragon.mweb.co.za (seadragon.mweb.co.za [196.2.45.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7571F43D31 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:10:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ASingh@DigitalXP.co.za) Received: from assocsoft0001 (c1-76-1.pmb.dial.mweb.co.za [196.23.34.76]) by seadragon.mweb.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65CC83221 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:10:16 +0200 (SAST) From: "Singh, Ajith (ZA - Pietermaritzburg)" To: Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:10:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcToLWdzVwmbp2ojTfiOfh7D7k+RLQASDsGAAAFt02A= In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-Id: <20041222231016.B65CC83221@seadragon.mweb.co.za> Subject: RE: Copying a directory hierarchy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ASingh@DigitalXP.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:10:52 -0000 Have you tried pax -rw . destination_dir ? AJITH SINGH Pietermaritzburg, South Africa -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Lowell Gilbert Sent: 22 December 2004 03:51 PM To: Mike Jeays Cc: Robert Huff; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Copying a directory hierarchy Mike Jeays writes: > On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 21:08, Robert Huff wrote: > > Mike Jeays writes: > > > > > How does on copy a complete directory hierarchy, including any hidden > > > files? > > > > > > "cp -rp" leaves them out. > > > > cp -rp * > > cp -rp .* > This doesn't copy hidden files in lower-level directories, only in the > top level. Thanks for the suggestion - a good idea that doesn't quite > do it. It works for me... temp> type -a rm rm is /bin/rm temp> mkdir -p a/b/c/d/e temp> touch a/b/c/d/.hidden a/b/c/d/e/.hidden-too temp> cp -r a f temp> find a f a a/b a/b/c a/b/c/d a/b/c/d/e a/b/c/d/e/.hidden-too a/b/c/d/.hidden f f/b f/b/c f/b/c/d f/b/c/d/e f/b/c/d/e/.hidden-too f/b/c/d/.hidden temp> _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 23:14:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1A916A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:14:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.darkness-is.com (adsl247-142.incentre.net [207.216.247.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E532F43D49 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:14:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cculver@darkness-is.com) Received: (qmail 5865 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2004 23:14:27 -0000 Received: from s0106004005da67a3.rd.shawcable.net (HELO darknessws1) (70.65.57.186) by adsl247-142.incentre.net with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 23:14:27 -0000 From: "Clay Culver" To: "'Peterhin'" , Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:14:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <200412221713.40345.hindrich@worldchat.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcToc5h2lZYk2UvTS7SDdWNINV1v0wACDjrA Message-Id: <20041222231417.E532F43D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: RE: Serial ATA? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:14:25 -0000 I am running a Dell PowerEdge 750 server with FreeBSD 4.9 and the system has a serial ATA hard drive in it. Clay > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Peterhin > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 3:14 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Serial ATA? > > I would like to move over to FreeBSD from Linux, only been there for a year. > > I am starting at groung zero. I have read the hardware list for 4.9 STABLE and > 5.2.1 RELEASE. All I can find in 3.1 "Disk Controller with Promise ATA100/133 > OEM chip (pdc20265/69) I am using a ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, with > a > Promise PDC20378 Raid Controller and a Western Digital Serial ATA H.D. Will > FreeBSD work.? > Thanks. > > Peter > > "Peace is never more than one thought away" > > GNU/Linux > Freedom > http://libranet.com > http://www.fsf.org > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 23:31:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F0A16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:31:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from extacy.homeip.net (extacy.homeip.net [67.62.48.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D1243D4C for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:31:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Niy@extacy.homeip.net) Received: (qmail 26437 invoked by uid 89); 22 Dec 2004 23:35:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.10?) (Niy@extacy.homeip.net@192.168.0.10) by extacy.homeip.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 23:35:51 -0000 Message-ID: <41CA0452.1080300@extacy.homeip.net> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:33:38 -0500 From: Tim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041109 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Top loses memory over time? Memory leak? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:31:23 -0000 Okay, here's the background. I thought top was displaying my memory stats oddly, so I ran a little test. I rebooted the pc, logged into the console as a normal user, and ran top. I did this at around midnight last night / this morning. I let it run until I got home from work, (6:15 today) So that's about... 18 hours. Here are my results. First, when I started last night. 29 processes: 1 running, 28 sleeping CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.2% system, 6.0% interrupt, 93.8% idle Mem: 8120K Active, 8372K Inact, 17M Wired, 8576K Buf, 460M Free Swap: 980M Total, 980M Free Now, the one from when I got home: 25 processes: 1 running, 24 sleeping CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.4% system, 8.9% interrupt, 90.7% idle Mem: 7400K Active, 249M Inact, 68M Wired, 60M Buf, 170M Free Swap: 980M Total, 980M Free This machine sat unattended all day. What could be causing the drastic drop in Free memory? Is this normal? When I actually use the machine, it's even worse... Almost all of my RAM goes from Free to other various states, Mostly Inactive, even after I've closed all the programs I've had open, rather quickly (maybe an hour or two) For reference, the uname -a: FreeBSD Empathy 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: Sun Nov 7 21:38:11 EST 2004 Niy@Empathy:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP i386 (Dual processor, PIII 1.0ghz, 512M Ram) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 23:32:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A92916A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:32:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD5243D1D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:32:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aran80@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so42338wra for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:32:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=diGjU8sOZdPhmeppsz3lMMxexTOQsjbcGd7ZaB226mg+1f+egjHG2p7TKFcMiQLg9fwk9DzbUXWCCQw8NGl47ksJrxzeGEAH+vOA4mfs6lB1M4euVHh+xsSgbZ1BJ+L9z1gUnDgH57ct/7XtmT8SwPLcMMg40DeEbGHgRo14rYQ= Received: by 10.54.45.8 with SMTP id s8mr287209wrs; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:32:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.49.12 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:32:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:32:11 -0500 From: Alvaro Rosales To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Motor problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alvaro Rosales List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:32:13 -0000 Hello guys I am trying to install motor from the ports tree, I am runningn FreeBSD 5.2, But when I run it for the first time I get a Bus error .and a core dump. Any Ideas about this?. Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 23:46:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0F416A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:46:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bobball.uchicago.edu (bobball.uchicago.edu [128.135.57.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 35D6543D1F for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:46:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wbwither@bobball.uchicago.edu) Received: (qmail 25019 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2004 00:22:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bobball.uchicago.edu) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Dec 2004 00:22:24 -0000 Received: from 65.182.75.133 (SquirrelMail authenticated user wbwither) by bobball.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:22:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <61196.65.182.75.133.1103761344.squirrel@bobball.uchicago.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:22:24 -0600 (CST) From: To: In-Reply-To: <20041220160032.44668.qmail@web50703.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20041218233156.GA10895@bobball.uchicago.edu> <20041220160032.44668.qmail@web50703.mail.yahoo.com> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: 4711@chello.at cc: weyrich_comp@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Identical hard drives, different disklabel sectors/cylinders X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:46:28 -0000 Thanks for the responses. Sorry for the delay in replying. orville weyrich said: > (1) make sure that the BIOS settings are the same for > both drives. I don't think this is an issue, as I haven't touched the BIOS for this IDE card, and it should be on full-auto mode. > (2) is there a jumper on the drive itself that affects > sector mapping? No. > (3) do you have all the /dev/ad4 and /dev/ad5 devices > (try MAKEDEV ad) I MAKEDEV'd both ad4 and ad5 at least once. > (4) have you tried the > /stand/sysinstall->configure->label method of editing > the labels? Does it report a discrepancy between BIOS > and memory disk geometry? Yes, I tried /stand/sysinstall several times, and actually I can't remember whether it gave me that error. However, I have gotten that error many times in the past and was under the impression that it was a fairly normal thing and should be ignored. > (5) have you tried using disklable -e to directly edit > the labels to copy the "good" label to the "bad" > drive? Yes, I tried editing both labels, and it wouldn't take for either. Christian Hiris said: > Your disks slice tables holding different values for C/H/S geometry. > You can wipe out the slice tables with the dd(1) command and > re-initialize them with fdisk and bsdlabel or sysinstall. There is an > example written on this in 'man 8 bsdlabel'. I dd'd both drives several times. I never used bsdlabel, as I was under the impression that disklabel is more recent. > IMHO there is only one thing that can go wrong with your configuration: > If you are booting your system from the mirror, I would test if both > of your drives are bootable. Well, these disks are just extra storage under /var, and ad0 and ad1 are the bootable disks in this system. So I guess I don't have anything to worry about. Again, thanks for your help :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 23:47:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B5416A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:47:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp802.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp802.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D2FB43D31 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:47:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamera@pacbell.net) Received: from unknown (HELO gamerasmog.com) (gamera@pacbell.net@64.173.26.30 with login) by smtp802.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 23:47:46 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:47:42 -0800 From: Joshua Tinnin To: Peterhin Message-ID: <20041222234742.GA28829@gamerasmog.com> References: <200412221713.40345.hindrich@worldchat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200412221713.40345.hindrich@worldchat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serial ATA? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:47:49 -0000 On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 05:13:40PM -0500, Peterhin wrote: > I would like to move over to FreeBSD from Linux, only been there for a year. > > I am starting at groung zero. I have read the hardware list for 4.9 STABLE and > 5.2.1 RELEASE. All I can find in 3.1 "Disk Controller with Promise ATA100/133 > OEM chip (pdc20265/69) I am using a ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, with a > Promise PDC20378 Raid Controller and a Western Digital Serial ATA H.D. Will > FreeBSD work.? > Thanks. Like I said, I'm not sure about SATA, but I have that same motherboard, and things work pretty well. I haven't been able to get ACPI to work, so I leave it disabled, but this isn't a big deal for me. You will need the sk ethernet device set in the kernel config, as well as some other things. You will have to go with 5.3-RELEASE to support your hardware. If you decide to install it, let me know and I'll send my kernel config file, device.hints and loader.conf. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 23:59:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E794F16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:59:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ss.eunet.cz (ss.eunet.cz [193.85.228.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7A743D1D for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:59:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mime@traveller.cz) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ss.eunet.cz. [193.85.228.13]) by ss.eunet.cz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBMNxMtm047234; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:59:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mime@traveller.cz) Message-ID: <41CA0A5B.3020107@traveller.cz> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:59:23 +0100 From: Michal Mertl User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; cs-CZ; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041117 X-Accept-Language: cs, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, hindrich@worldchat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Serial ATA? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:59:29 -0000 Peterhin wrote: > I would like to move over to FreeBSD from Linux, only been there for a > year. > > I am starting at groung zero. I have read the hardware list for 4.9 > STABLE and > 5.2.1 RELEASE. All I can find in 3.1 "Disk Controller with Promise > ATA100/133 > OEM chip (pdc20265/69) I am using a ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, > with a > Promise PDC20378 Raid Controller and a Western Digital Serial ATA H.D. Will > FreeBSD work.? Yes. The controller is definitely supported. I'm not entirely sure about RAID functions but they are most probably supported too. If you have looked at supported hardware for 5.3 you would find a link to ata(4) manual page, which lists the controller as supported. It has been supported for long time but only recently (for 5.2) it got into manual pages and even more recently it's reflected in the release documentation (for 5.3). Michal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 00:10:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAABA16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:10:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.uol.com.br (smtpout2.uol.com.br [200.221.4.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BCF43D2D for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:10:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from giulianocm@uol.com.br) Received: from [201.13.106.156] (unknown [201.13.106.156]) by scorpion2.uol.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743067862 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:10:35 -0200 (BRST) Message-ID: <41CA0CF9.2060603@uol.com.br> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:10:33 -0200 From: Giuliano Cardozo Medalha Organization: WZTECH User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TOE Gigabit NICs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: giulianocm@uol.com.br List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:10:37 -0000 All, Does anyone has some experience with TOE NICs ? Think it is developed to work with storage systems. FreeBSD does support this kind of hardware ? The only target site for this kind of board has indicated that the support is only for Windows: http://www.alacritech.com/html/1000x1_accelerator_oem.html I would like to test them for projects related with network optimization and performace using TCP/IP and FreeBSD. Thanks a lot, Giuliano From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 00:23:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD00916A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:23:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fed1rmmtao10.cox.net (fed1rmmtao10.cox.net [68.230.241.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5934143D2F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:23:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marella@hawaii.rr.com) Received: from localhost ([68.8.243.244]) by fed1rmmtao10.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id <20041223002302.ZXHE7026.fed1rmmtao10.cox.net@localhost>; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:23:02 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:18:19 -1000 From: Robert Marella To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20041222141819.2fc5e93e@localhost> In-Reply-To: <41C7F33B.7000509@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <3B5700417F70BA4CA7D2EA98375EF64003157033@CAUUNI2K000MSG.unibanco> <41C7F33B.7000509@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Marcio Cardenuto Mallavazzi cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:23:07 -0000 On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:56:11 +0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > 5.3-STABLE is a moving target from the RELENG_4 development branch. > It should run stably and it can be used usefully as a desktop system > or whatever, but tracking -STABLE is not recommended for *absolutely has > to be up 24x7* type applications, because new functionality and support > for new hardware will be introduced, which can result in problems > occasionally. (In practice this very rarely happens: which is a great > tribute to the degree of care taken by FreeBSD developers). If one is *tracking* 5.3-STABLE on a non-critical system and is subscribed to the stable mailing list, how does one know when to cvsup and build world? I have not seen anything on the list to indicate I should update my source. I have seen that 5.3-RELEASE is now P2 but nothing about STABLE. Should I be doing it regularly (weekly, daily)? Or did I just miss something? Thank you for this and all of your previous posts. I look forward to seeing your name as a poster for I know it will be another learning experience. Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 00:36:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642DF16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:36:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC7943D41 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:36:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id iBN0Zxu26047; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:35:59 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200412230035.iBN0Zxu26047@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: leonmk@optonline.net (Leon) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:35:58 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <000601c4e78e$c13ed7f0$a23db918@D1TWQX41> from "Leon" at Dec 21, 2004 01:56:18 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VIM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:36:02 -0000 > > Hi, > > I have installed a VIM editor. > When I create a new file with this editor, I can't type anything. > What is wrong. I have not used VIM - installed it once, but never really used it. But, it is basically like vi to use, I think. I have a very basic vi HowTo that I wrote up for our sites. It might help you get started. It is at: http://scnc.k12.mi.us/howto/edit/vi.html ////jerry > > Thanks, > Leon. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 00:36:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A4416A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:36:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C394243D2D for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:36:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 3837 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2004 00:36:17 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Dec 2004 00:36:17 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 726F844; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:36:16 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Tim References: <41CA0452.1080300@extacy.homeip.net> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 22 Dec 2004 19:36:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: <41CA0452.1080300@extacy.homeip.net> Message-ID: <44fz1xdf5r.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Top loses memory over time? Memory leak? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:36:18 -0000 Tim writes: > This machine sat unattended all day. What could be causing the drastic > drop in Free memory? Is this normal? When I actually use the machine, > it's even worse... Almost all of my RAM goes from Free to other > various states, Mostly Inactive, even after I've closed all the > programs I've had open, rather quickly (maybe an hour or two) See the FAQ, but basically the answer is "Free memory is wasted memory." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 00:47:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFEE316A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:47:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from server.hostingcertified.com (server.hostingcertified.com [69.50.212.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A743D43D1F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:47:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@haubworld.org) Received: from ip-geetel-216-21-177-193.geetel.net ([216.21.177.193] helo=Main) by server.hostingcertified.com with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ChH8i-0001yu-C7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:47:41 -0700 Message-ID: <004001c4e888$fe5f20e0$c1b115d8@Main> From: "lists" To: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:47:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: haubenst@haubworld.org,hehaub@haubworld.org,hepowernet@haubworld.org,lists@haubworld.org,resume@haubworld.org X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.hostingcertified.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - haubworld.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: buildworld via ssh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:47:40 -0000 I am doing a buildworld(Rel5.2) via ssh to a remote location. I detached the process from my session, but I failed to pipe the output to a logfile. Long story short, my session was terminated and I am not sure if the process completed correctly or not. Is there any way to find out if the build was sucessful? TIA -Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 00:50:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D20616A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:50:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.mail.ru (mx2.mail.ru [194.67.23.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F40543D45 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:50:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@mail.ru) Received: from [83.237.13.145] (port=1910 helo=[172.17.0.69]) by mx2.mail.ru with esmtp id 1ChHBL-0000OZ-00; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:50:19 +0300 Message-ID: <41CA1645.1050408@mail.ru> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:50:13 +0300 From: "Andrew P." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <41C9D01F.2020608@mail.ru> <20041222200552.GB53171@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20041222200552.GB53171@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rpc.lockd and statd fail to start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: infofarmer@mail.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:50:23 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 10:50:55PM +0300, Andrew P. wrote: > >>Hello! >> >>I got this: >> >>satsmb# rpc.statd >>rpc.statd: svc_tli_create: could not open connection for udp6 >>rpc.statd: svc_tp_create: Could not register prog 100024 vers 1 on udp >>rpc.statd: cannot create udp service >>satsmb# rpc.lockd >>rpc.lockd: unable to register (NLM_PROG, NLM_SM, udp) > > Are you running rpcbind? The udp6 warning is not by itself fatal, but > the fact that it can't register anything with rpcbind is. > Yep, rpcbind solved the problem. Thanks! Wishes, Andrew P. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 00:56:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A80216A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:56:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F2943D3F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:56:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b163.otenet.gr [212.205.244.171]) iBN0uKFj000335; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:56:21 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBN0uJBF092413; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:56:19 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBN0uJMU092412; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:56:19 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:56:19 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: lists Message-ID: <20041223005619.GA88565@gothmog.gr> References: <004001c4e888$fe5f20e0$c1b115d8@Main> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <004001c4e888$fe5f20e0$c1b115d8@Main> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld via ssh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:56:25 -0000 On 2004-12-22 19:47, lists wrote: > I am doing a buildworld(Rel5.2) via ssh to a remote location. I detached the > process from my session, but I failed to > pipe the output to a logfile. Long story short, my session was terminated > and I am not sure if the process completed > correctly or not. Is there any way to find out if the build was sucessful? If you don't mind wasting a few cycles, you can restart the build with -DNOCLEAN and wait a bit. If the build was interrupted because of the detach, it will resume building everything and finish a lot faster than a full buildworld. Having said that, one of the last things that get built is src/usr.sbin/zzz. You can check if /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/zzz/zzz exists. If it does, you can probably assume the build finished successfully. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 00:59:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03A316A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:59:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.mail.ru (mx1.mail.ru [194.67.23.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AEE943D3F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:59:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@mail.ru) Received: from [83.237.13.145] (port=1937 helo=[172.17.0.69]) by mx1.mail.ru with esmtp id 1ChHKE-000Ep3-00; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:59:30 +0300 Message-ID: <41CA1870.1020200@mail.ru> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:59:28 +0300 From: "Andrew P." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael C. Shultz" References: <41C9C3AD.6060109@mail.ru> <200412221223.37330.reso3w83@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <200412221223.37330.reso3w83@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Samba installation from ports over NFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: infofarmer@mail.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:59:32 -0000 Michael C. Shultz wrote: > On Wednesday 22 December 2004 10:57 am, Andrew P. wrote: > >>Hello! >> >>My /usr/ports is a network file-system. When I try to install samba 3 >>it says: >> >>satsmb# make install >>===> samba-3.0.9,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf259 - >>found ===> samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: cups.2 - found >>===> samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: popt.0 - found ===> >>samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: ldap-2.2.7 - found ===> >>samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: iconv.3 - found ===> >>Configuring for samba-3.0.9,1 >>autom4te259: cannot lock autom4te.cache/requests with mode 2 (perhaps >>you are running make -j on a lame NFS client?): Operation not >>supported *** Error code 1 >> >>Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba3. >> >> >>Can I fix this without learning all autoconf caveats? >> > > > You can do something like make install WRKDIRPREFIX=/tmp > if /tmp is on a local file system to get around the lock problem. > lockd and statd haven't solved the problem in the end. Work dir prefix key helped though, thanks much! Best wishes, Andrew P. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 01:07:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4483516A4D1 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:07:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85D643D3F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:07:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.ml@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so18875wri for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:07:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dTqul798xzUQYVahjagknKQnhKUP8s36B9DLSBvrSaism1c8nPNmJBYBKImQHLLauc7BVi7OHoguVlncu3ClmUI5FF2RofVlEY4PBmLni8vLW3mQpfPiiMiuTxk3s4P2vbqrF8cdOQtFL4SB7pCk6kV5NRWYnF4+pngKQ19MRT8= Received: by 10.54.17.52 with SMTP id 52mr162984wrq; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:07:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.20.74 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:07:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:07:16 +0800 From: FreeBSD MailingLists To: questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: backup routes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD MailingLists List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:07:18 -0000 I have a FBSD box acting as a gateway for the network. I was wondering if there is anyway to set up the routing table so I can setup automatic backup routes? I want the system to try to route packets to A. But if A is down, automatically set the route to B... Is there anyway to set this up? TIA, Tomoki From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 01:27:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BBD916A51E for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:27:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9650043D1F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:27:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rlurman@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so35188rng for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:27:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=De1ghwQ39Qk7pj5IckTKRiwv4ZtRHNARK/APS2g7TKR5irK6DDTzGMEh1mh2w6KycveTtUdqNTRtYSbdrNlH8pM6YJPJM2rYJzqxYTuYOIeCVVGu2Np8AuaHe9AyoON06UN/8AkKzU3shKv8itcbiB1gSQyhxFnZdYqvbyupKrI= Received: by 10.38.76.58 with SMTP id y58mr250023rna; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:27:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.149.33 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:27:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:27:18 -0500 From: RL To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Switching FreeBSD machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: RL List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:27:21 -0000 Hi. I have FBSD 5.3 on one machine. I'm thinking of buying a Dell 420SC Server and would want to use FreeBSD on that. I went through a hard time getting things to work on my current machine such as Java and maybe a few other things, so I really would rather not start from scratch. And I don't want to swap hard-drives because the Dell comes with a nice Serial ATA drive I want to use. My only option might be to clone the old FBSD box using g4Unix and putting it on the Dell. Would kind of problems and headaches would I have with that? Edit: Current machine is an Athlon and Dell server is a P4. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 01:32:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27DF16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:32:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 49FE443D54 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:32:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john-theriault@rogers.com) Received: from unknown (HELO basement) (john-theriault@69.195.194.27 with login) by smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Dec 2004 01:32:56 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c4e88f$5cb52800$c700a8c0@basement> From: "John Theriault" To: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:33:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Mirros Via Bittorrent X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:32:57 -0000 I was wondering if you have ever thought of distributing FreeBSD though = Bittorrent. If so I may be able to mirror it for you on a global site.=20 =20 The purpose of my new site (soon coming) is to have a global index of = Distributions and a way of getting them, =20 Thank you for you time, =20 =20 John Theriault From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 01:35:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B1616A4CF for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:35:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219FF43D1D for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:35:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rlurman@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so38890rna for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:35:49 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=O8MDi/eUMMFB+fAp+AmVjAKHIU4FNZUDgeB20IDh/C05zUN/qACtGomISQ7Xx/rHT4VvAfmkQBjzpuT0x5L7+mTdKg70MVEH/4G5+RCDRi+6sfwUBvvPtRgVW/0NvIp5q41ZPagxfZ8XdLe6AmA+xKTJPCLT4g5Y64J/gYJBVt8= Received: by 10.38.90.34 with SMTP id n34mr81621rnb; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:35:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.149.33 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:35:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:35:49 -0500 From: RL To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41CA2009.5030002@krisk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41CA2009.5030002@krisk.org> Subject: Re: Switching FreeBSD machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: RL List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:35:50 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:31:53 -0600, Kristian Kielhofner wrote: > RL wrote: > > Hi. I have FBSD 5.3 on one machine. I'm thinking of buying a Dell > > 420SC Server and would want to use FreeBSD on that. I went through a > > hard time getting things to work on my current machine such as Java > > and maybe a few other things, so I really would rather not start from > > scratch. And I don't want to swap hard-drives because the Dell comes > > with a nice Serial ATA drive I want to use. My only option might be to > > clone the old FBSD box using g4Unix and putting it on the Dell. Would > > kind of problems and headaches would I have with that? > > > > Edit: Current machine is an Athlon and Dell server is a P4. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > I hope you saw that the SC420 is going for under $250 right now! > Anyways, you could always try to manually partition the new drive (in > the 420) install the bootloader, and then rsync everything over. I have > done that many times with FreeBSD and Linux, and as long as you have a > kernel that supports the HD controllers on both, you should be fine. A > FreeBSD live cd should help, but you don't necessarily need it. > > -- > Kristian Kielhofner > Yeah that is about what I got it for (actually over $300.) Now would ghosting it (with g4u) work? I'm thinking I might have a lot of issues because stuff was compiled for an Athlon and I'm moving to a P4. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 01:38:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C0F16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:38:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E696643D1D for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:38:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from unixadmin99@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so39832wra for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:37:59 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=PpeRjHJHy7FU+v6usXtNq8rxG2iDpg5VH/Y3sPBLdXPgAIoIXOgssWYHw51lDxtJxRYxLtYUtr9Tsayl9QG98s99UCdTPrW87H6vcvTUYaC03YsK/nsbPuvWxZ9wuDmQ3Kl2ZGasNKWdr0JLHrO6P6rwazvZkRz6Xs7fKZARzfM= Received: by 10.54.13.65 with SMTP id 65mr172600wrm; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:37:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.37.29 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:37:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f6f395804122217373bea5c16@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:37:59 +0000 From: unixadmin99 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200412230035.iBN0Zxu26047@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <000601c4e78e$c13ed7f0$a23db918@D1TWQX41> <200412230035.iBN0Zxu26047@clunix.cl.msu.edu> cc: Leon Subject: Re: VIM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: unixadmin99 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:38:01 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:35:58 -0500 (EST), Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I have installed a VIM editor. > > When I create a new file with this editor, I can't type anything. > > What is wrong. /usr/ports/editors/vilearn is what you need. "Vilearn is an interactive vi tutorial. There are five short tutorials, each a text file intended to be edited with vi". -- ~michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 01:39:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB9916A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:39:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rooster.chubbo.net (rooster.chubbo.net [168.75.98.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9458443D45 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:39:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@chubbo.net) Received: from rooster.chubbo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rooster.chubbo.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id iBN1dvNU064752 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:39:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@chubbo.net) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by rooster.chubbo.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id iBN1dvsW064751 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:39:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@chubbo.net) X-Authentication-Warning: rooster.chubbo.net: nobody set sender to freebsd-questions@chubbo.net using -f Received: from c-67-169-93-71.client.comcast.net (c-67-169-93-71.client.comcast.net [67.169.93.71]) by mail.chubbo.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:39:57 -0800 Message-ID: <1103765997.41ca21ed1e051@mail.chubbo.net> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:39:57 -0800 From: Joseph To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Subject: 5.3R and 3ware 9500s hang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:40:00 -0000 hello there's. i'm building a new machine to run freebsd 5.3 with two 3ware 9500s-12MI cards. i installed the OS before i connected the drives, and since i have connected them, the system hangs on boot. the system also hangs on boot directly from the install cd with the drives connected. i have only a cd drive connected to the onboard ide, no floppy, and the onboard scsi is disabled via jumper. other hardware is: supermicro X6DH8-XG2 motherboard (E7520 chipset), two 3.6GHz xeon, 4GB ram, two 36gb 10k sata drives mirrored, and 12x 300gb sata drives. there's also an IPMI card, but it's likely irrelevant to this question. i've already cvsup'ed and installed 5.3R-p2 and a new kernel (with the carp patches). i can boot in safe mode and operate fine, but with only one cpu. i've disabled ACPI in device.hints (can't boot with ACPI enabled), and i've tried setting the following in loader.conf, which i read is the same as safe mode: hw.ata.ata_dma=0 hw.ata.atapi_dma=0 hw.ata.wc=0 hw.eisa_slots=0 i've tried using the twa.ko from 3ware, both release and development, and using the sources to compile a kernel, which fails at twa compilation. both 3ware cards have the same bios and firmware, which are: Firmware FE9X 2.04.00.005, BIOS BE9X 2.03.01.047 during verbose boot, the last part of the messages are: ata1: reiniting channel .. ata1: reset tp1 mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat1=01 ata1-master: stat=0x00 err=0x01 lsb=0x14 msb=0xeb ata1-slave: stat=0x01 err=0x04 lsb=0x04 msb=0x7f ata1: reset tp2 stat0=00 stat1=01 devices=0x4 ata1: resetting done .. ata1: reiniting channel .. ata1-master: FAILURE - ATAPI_IDENTIFY timed out (probe15:twa0:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39 (probe15:twa0:0:16:0): Retrying Command (probe31:twa1:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39 (probe31:twa1:0:16:0): Retrying Command (probe15:twa0:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39 (probe15:twa0:0:16:0): Retrying Command (probe31:twa1:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39 (probe31:twa1:0:16:0): Retrying Command (probe15:twa0:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39 (probe15:twa0:0:16:0): Retrying Command (probe31:twa1:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39 (probe31:twa1:0:16:0): Retrying Command (probe15:twa0:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39 (probe15:twa0:0:16:0): Retrying Command (probe31:twa1:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39 (probe31:twa1:0:16:0): Retrying Command (probe15:twa0:0:16:0): error 5 (probe15:twa0:0:16:0): Retries Exhausted (probe31:twa1:0:16:0): error 5 (probe31:twa1:0:16:0): Retries Exhausted ata1: reiniting channel .. ata1-master: FAILURE - ATAPI_IDENTIFY timed out ata1: device config done .. ata1-master: FAILURE - ATAPI_IDENTIFY timed out (probe15:twa0:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39 (probe15:twa0:0:16:0): Retrying Command (probe31:twa1:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39 (probe31:twa1:0:16:0): Retrying Command (probe15:twa0:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39 (probe15:twa0:0:16:0): Retrying Command (probe31:twa1:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39 (probe31:twa1:0:16:0): Retrying Command (probe15:twa0:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39 (probe15:twa0:0:16:0): Retrying Command (probe31:twa1:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39 (probe31:twa1:0:16:0): Retrying Command (probe15:twa0:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39 (probe15:twa0:0:16:0): Retrying Command (probe31:twa1:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39 (probe31:twa1:0:16:0): Retrying Command (probe15:twa0:0:16:0): error 5 (probe15:twa0:0:16:0): Retries Exhausted (probe31:twa1:0:16:0): error 5 (probe31:twa1:0:16:0): Retries Exhausted any helpful information is appreciated. thanks! joe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 01:40:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472A416A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:40:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp808.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp808.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1954743D4C for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:40:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gamera@pacbell.net) Received: from unknown (HELO gamerasmog.com) (gamera@pacbell.net@64.173.26.30 with login) by smtp808.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Dec 2004 01:40:47 -0000 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:40:43 -0800 From: Joshua Tinnin To: Jerry McAllister Message-ID: <20041223014043.GB28829@gamerasmog.com> References: <000601c4e78e$c13ed7f0$a23db918@D1TWQX41> <200412230035.iBN0Zxu26047@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200412230035.iBN0Zxu26047@clunix.cl.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Leon Subject: Re: VIM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:40:48 -0000 On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 07:35:58PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I have installed a VIM editor. > > When I create a new file with this editor, I can't type anything. > > What is wrong. > > I have not used VIM - installed it once, but never really used it. > But, it is basically like vi to use, I think. I have a very basic vi HowTo > that I wrote up for our sites. It might help you get started. > > It is at: http://scnc.k12.mi.us/howto/edit/vi.html I personally love vim. You can also try emacs, but you might as well get used to vi if you're going to run any *nix - vim is basically vi extended, although it will operate exactly like vi for the purists if you configure it to do that. It's not intuitive, but once you get used to it it's very efficient. I use it for all sorts of editing, including composing email in Mutt. Joshua Lokken posted some good vim tutorials, and there's another one here: http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/9039 Here's another vi tutorial: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/10/25/FreeBSD_Basics.html - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 01:43:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B90216A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:43:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jail1.krisk.org (www.krisk.org [68.254.74.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CC243D31 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:43:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@krisk.org) Received: from [192.168.0.97] (kris.kielhof.com [192.168.0.97]) (authenticated bits=0) by jail1.krisk.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBN1hXlQ002885 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:43:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kris@krisk.org) Message-ID: <41CA22D0.4060104@krisk.org> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:43:44 -0600 From: Kristian Kielhofner User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RL References: <41CA2009.5030002@krisk.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.44 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Switching FreeBSD machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:43:35 -0000 RL wrote: > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:31:53 -0600, Kristian Kielhofner wrote: > >>RL wrote: >> >>>Hi. I have FBSD 5.3 on one machine. I'm thinking of buying a Dell >>>420SC Server and would want to use FreeBSD on that. I went through a >>>hard time getting things to work on my current machine such as Java >>>and maybe a few other things, so I really would rather not start from >>>scratch. And I don't want to swap hard-drives because the Dell comes >>>with a nice Serial ATA drive I want to use. My only option might be to >>>clone the old FBSD box using g4Unix and putting it on the Dell. Would >>>kind of problems and headaches would I have with that? >>> >>>Edit: Current machine is an Athlon and Dell server is a P4. >>>_______________________________________________ >>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >>I hope you saw that the SC420 is going for under $250 right now! >>Anyways, you could always try to manually partition the new drive (in >>the 420) install the bootloader, and then rsync everything over. I have >>done that many times with FreeBSD and Linux, and as long as you have a >>kernel that supports the HD controllers on both, you should be fine. A >>FreeBSD live cd should help, but you don't necessarily need it. >> >>-- >>Kristian Kielhofner >> > > > Yeah that is about what I got it for (actually over $300.) Now would > ghosting it (with g4u) work? I'm thinking I might have a lot of > issues because stuff was compiled for an Athlon and I'm moving to a > P4. Hmm... What did you get in it? Anyways, you could use g4u, but I really think that the rsync method will be faster and more reliable anyways. If your binaries have been compiled for Athlon then you could have some problems on a P4. That is why I compile everything for 686 - I know that it is going to work no matter what recent processor I put it on, and I am not much of a believer in "optimizing". You could rebuild the system and them portupgrade -aRr (after you modify /etc/make.conf, of course). -- Kristian Kielhofner From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 01:50:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1528F16A4E6 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:50:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3F243D58 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:50:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rlurman@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so37999rne for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:50:15 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=RroXNnla0KlHWVmyveqbxUYYI35Uwk40ek3C4VSAyrLJMbEijX16QYt99Qbj+ot8QcikB9zcl2uhiV0XKmVDV9tlQD7sMIYta858ifArvkGKven9FOqeo9Tuzsgoi21jckws9iW2Fen9pRE+ueV13d1z9SZxFiOUHreTNVbv3+M= Received: by 10.38.102.63 with SMTP id z63mr233131rnb; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:50:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.149.33 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:50:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:50:12 -0500 From: RL To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41CA22D0.4060104@krisk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41CA2009.5030002@krisk.org> <41CA22D0.4060104@krisk.org> Subject: Re: Switching FreeBSD machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: RL List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:50:16 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:43:44 -0600, Kristian Kielhofner wrote: > RL wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:31:53 -0600, Kristian Kielhofner wrote: > > > >>RL wrote: > >> > >>>Hi. I have FBSD 5.3 on one machine. I'm thinking of buying a Dell > >>>420SC Server and would want to use FreeBSD on that. I went through a > >>>hard time getting things to work on my current machine such as Java > >>>and maybe a few other things, so I really would rather not start from > >>>scratch. And I don't want to swap hard-drives because the Dell comes > >>>with a nice Serial ATA drive I want to use. My only option might be to > >>>clone the old FBSD box using g4Unix and putting it on the Dell. Would > >>>kind of problems and headaches would I have with that? > >>> > >>>Edit: Current machine is an Athlon and Dell server is a P4. > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > >>I hope you saw that the SC420 is going for under $250 right now! > >>Anyways, you could always try to manually partition the new drive (in > >>the 420) install the bootloader, and then rsync everything over. I have > >>done that many times with FreeBSD and Linux, and as long as you have a > >>kernel that supports the HD controllers on both, you should be fine. A > >>FreeBSD live cd should help, but you don't necessarily need it. > >> > >>-- > >>Kristian Kielhofner > >> > > > > > > Yeah that is about what I got it for (actually over $300.) Now would > > ghosting it (with g4u) work? I'm thinking I might have a lot of > > issues because stuff was compiled for an Athlon and I'm moving to a > > P4. > > Hmm... What did you get in it? Anyways, you could use g4u, but I really > think that the rsync method will be faster and more reliable anyways. > If your binaries have been compiled for Athlon then you could have some > problems on a P4. That is why I compile everything for 686 - I know > that it is going to work no matter what recent processor I put it on, > and I am not much of a believer in "optimizing". > > You could rebuild the system and them portupgrade -aRr (after you > modify /etc/make.conf, of course). > > -- > Kristian Kielhofner > > It is a P4 2.8GHZ, 256MB RAM, 80GB Serial ATA hard-drive. I might just start from scratch. I just got a bad feeling I will run into problems. The biggest pain in the ass was getting Java to work on my old system. Besides that, I don't have any critical on my old system that I wouldn't mind starting from scratch again. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 01:57:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC9C16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:57:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F4F43D45 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:57:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rlurman@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so38479rne for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:57:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=VNjxFCaDq+azJG1e8MNM9a3fYPoNkub6mh1mVCf5xpeCg3MscNMG92krUCZk9hviNRLCBvidGW3+Ny3UXbUKvylok81AqpEmyEK5UaJm9hzvPKK+fXj8V46541M2JtTa3wwyYee2P0e2MJpVBwmW2CX6Fkw/MPzPf6r6ZSilBos= Received: by 10.38.102.78 with SMTP id z78mr528610rnb; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:57:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.149.33 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:57:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:57:11 -0500 From: RL To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41CA2558.3010302@krisk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41CA2009.5030002@krisk.org> <41CA22D0.4060104@krisk.org> <41CA2558.3010302@krisk.org> Subject: Re: Switching FreeBSD machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: RL List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:57:12 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:54:32 -0600, Kristian Kielhofner wrote: > RL wrote: > > It is a P4 2.8GHZ, 256MB RAM, 80GB Serial ATA hard-drive. I might > > just start from scratch. I just got a bad feeling I will run into > > problems. The biggest pain in the ass was getting Java to work on my > > old system. Besides that, I don't have any critical on my old system > > that I wouldn't mind starting from scratch again. > > RL, > > Sometimes that's fun to do anyways. Why didn't you do the free upgrade > to 512mb? > > -- > Kristian Kielhofner > There was a free upgrade to 512MB?? I didn't see that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 01:57:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A8116A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:57:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD5C43D39 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:57:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C5C7351288; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:57:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:57:39 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: John Theriault Message-ID: <20041223015739.GA46125@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <000801c4e88f$5cb52800$c700a8c0@basement> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000801c4e88f$5cb52800$c700a8c0@basement> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Mirros Via Bittorrent X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:57:40 -0000 --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 09:33:09PM -0400, John Theriault wrote: > I was wondering if you have ever thought of distributing FreeBSD > though Bittorrent. If so I may be able to mirror it for you on a > global site. Yes, and the last release was distributed that way. See the release announcement. Kris --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFByiYTWry0BWjoQKURAgaAAKCrzJfl0qPy9nqiojpckWpWPEupYgCgrMSD eYmZX6LaDsWcB1XXsD0hCI0= =7Ad0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 02:12:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D607416A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:12:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.orbitel.bg (smtp.orbitel.bg [195.24.32.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E75143D55 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:12:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from avenger@vip.bg) Received: (qmail 18246 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2004 02:12:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (10.0.0.4) by smtp.orbitel.bg with SMTP; 23 Dec 2004 02:12:40 -0000 Received: from smtp.orbitel.bg ([10.0.0.3]) by localhost (sof-rv2.orbitel.bg [10.0.0.4]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 02237-32 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:11:38 +0200 (EET) Received: (qmail 18195 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2004 02:12:36 -0000 Received: from smtp.orbitel.bg (HELO localhost) (195.24.32.22) by smtp.orbitel.bg with SMTP; 23 Dec 2004 02:12:36 -0000 Received: from 212.36.15.63 ( [212.36.15.63]) as user avenger@vip.bg@localhost by mail.orbitel.bg with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 04:12:36 +0200 Message-ID: <1103767956.41ca299434be4@mail.orbitel.bg> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 04:12:36 +0200 From: "P.B.S." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041222224117.0A87865D9F@pipefish.mweb.co.za> In-Reply-To: <20041222224117.0A87865D9F@pipefish.mweb.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 212.36.15.63 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at orbitel.bg Subject: RE: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:12:43 -0000 ffsdrv seems to be able to mount only the first slice. I couldn't get it mount any other slice after playing with it for some time. # df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad4s1a 496M 124M 332M 27% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/ad4s1e 248M 110K 228M 0% /tmp /dev/ad4s1f 18G 14G 2.6G 84% /usr /dev/ad4s1d 248M 63M 165M 27% /var /dev/ad4s3 42G 29G 13G 69% /mnt/c /dev/ad4s5 172G 161G 12G 93% /mnt/d Mounts /dev/ad4s1a only. I need /usr/home/.... (ad4s1f). Any ideas? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 02:18:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F0316A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:18:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A7E43D1F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:18:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from [66.47.111.183] (helo=joeandlane.com) (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1ChIYC-0002E1-QI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:18:00 -0500 Received: from joeandlane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBN2Hb8A089819 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:17:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBN2HbJX089818 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:17:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) X-Authentication-Warning: joeandlane.com: lholcombe set sender to lane@joeandlane.com using -f From: Lane To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:17:36 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412222017.37077.lane@joeandlane.com> X-ELNK-Trace: e56a4b6ca9bdfda11aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec794c7286f0d8d4df3d831f37df5746c77d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.47.111.183 Subject: FreeBSD as a DSL modem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:18:01 -0000 Hello Beastie! If I hadn't told you lately, I LOVE YOU! Here's my question: Is it possible to configure FreeBSD (5.3) to ACT as a DSL modem? I use an Efficient Networks SpeedStream 5360, using PPoE. But I've had to replace the modem more than once. Currently everything is working nicely, but I'm anxious about the next failure. What I'd like to do is setup a PC to act as router, firewall, AND dsl intermediary so that I can put my working DSL modem on the shelf for emergencies. Any pointers are appreciated. lane P.S. I built a website recently for a good paying client. They loved the website, but requested that I remove the "beastie" daemon (Powered by FreeBSD) because they thought the image might be offensive to their christian clients. I refused, of course. I love christians, but I just can't cotton to fools! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 02:33:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C434D16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:33:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao05.cox.net (lakermmtao05.cox.net [68.230.240.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4119A43D41 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:33:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from dolphin.local.net ([68.11.30.50]) by lakermmtao05.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP <20041223023304.IPCN16431.lakermmtao05.cox.net@dolphin.local.net>; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:33:04 -0500 Received: from dolphin.local.net (localhost.local.net [127.0.0.1]) by dolphin.local.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBN2X3dI089071; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:33:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:32:58 -0600 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: Lane Message-ID: <20041222203258.57134b7a@dolphin.local.net> In-Reply-To: <200412222017.37077.lane@joeandlane.com> References: <200412222017.37077.lane@joeandlane.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; amd64-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD as a DSL modem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:33:05 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:17:36 -0600, Lane wrote: > Hello Beastie! > > If I hadn't told you lately, I LOVE YOU! > > Here's my question: Is it possible to configure FreeBSD (5.3) to ACT > as a DSL modem? > > I use an Efficient Networks SpeedStream 5360, using PPoE. But I've > had to replace the modem more than once. Currently everything is > working nicely, but I'm anxious about the next failure. > > What I'd like to do is setup a PC to act as router, firewall, AND dsl > intermediary so that I can put my working DSL modem on the shelf for > emergencies. > > Any pointers are appreciated. Are you saying you want FreeBSD to *emulate* a DSL modem, without the actual hardware? I don't think that's currently possible. But I could be wrong. > P.S. I built a website recently for a good paying client. They loved > the website, but requested that I remove the "beastie" daemon (Powered > by FreeBSD) because they thought the image might be offensive to their > christian clients. > > I refused, of course. > > I love christians, but I just can't cotton to fools! Good for you! :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier -- "In Unix veritas" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 02:40:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AC216A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:40:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from galilee.polands.org (CPE-24-208-53-189.new.rr.com [24.208.53.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9376143D41 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:40:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dpoland@polands.org) Received: from eden.polands.org (wap.polands.org [172.16.1.40]) by galilee.polands.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBN2eSRZ064555; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:40:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dpoland@polands.org) Received: from eden.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eden.polands.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBN2eOso074059; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:40:24 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dpoland@eden.polands.org) Received: (from dpoland@localhost) by eden.polands.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBN2eNth074054; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:40:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dpoland) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:40:23 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: RL Message-ID: <20041223024023.GA72035@polands.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Switching FreeBSD machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:40:31 -0000 On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:27:18PM -0500, RL wrote: > Hi. I have FBSD 5.3 on one machine. I'm thinking of buying a Dell > 420SC Server and would want to use FreeBSD on that. I went through a > hard time getting things to work on my current machine such as Java > and maybe a few other things, so I really would rather not start from > scratch. And I don't want to swap hard-drives because the Dell comes > with a nice Serial ATA drive I want to use. My only option might be to > clone the old FBSD box using g4Unix and putting it on the Dell. Would > kind of problems and headaches would I have with that? > If you're tracking 5-STABLE, I would bring your current machine up-to-date with STABLE and portupgrade all ports. Then, create packages out of all your ports (man pkg_create, pay attention to -b switch). Create .tar files of your home directory, /etc/mail, /etc/namedb, and anything else you care about that's taken some time to configure. One thing I do on all my boxes is use RCS for all config files. It's a simple and quick step to create a .tar out of all these directories scattered about a box. I back these files up regularly. If I need to rebuild a box, it's a simple OS install, whatever ports are needed, and retrieve my config files from a tar. On your new box, bring it up-to-date with -STABLE, and install packages you created above. Selectively un-tar above files as needed. -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 03:04:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47CC016A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:04:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web14103.mail.yahoo.com (web14103.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0318343D49 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:04:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from k_greenwood1@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 8404 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Dec 2004 03:04:19 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=uDsmEr9+cFrXKRodWqW7ELt5R5kAsDYGPXrgdXlRi98GyrOADZk2JoxcLmzJvOUEMg8J34IOv5d4Xe7TdK3COrE1b3YHCL9yz1OSqMSW56eGIIhhtHTSxaCtlRKTGZrnRiT3dKtOQP2nON6cboKcmIsNh5QL+K6N00BwvfzVgkw= ; Message-ID: <20041223030419.8402.qmail@web14103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.76.54.46] by web14103.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:04:19 PST Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:04:19 -0800 (PST) From: "K. Greenwood" To: Joshua Lokken , "yitzchak.lander@us.army.mil" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pcmcia wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:04:20 -0000 --- Joshua Lokken wrote: > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:54:15 -0700, > yitzchak.lander@us.army.mil > wrote: > > > > hello, > > > > i am using the 5.0 dist, and i cant get it to > read my pcmcia ethernet > > card. it is rather old card with a cat-5 > connector on it for plugging > > into my router. it is called ositech trumpcard > and it is the jack of > > dimonds model the card works because i tried it > on the same computer > > before loading freebsd and i could surf the net > with it. is there a > > driver avaliable for this card or should i go > get a wirless one? (i > > cant find any cabled ones) if i need to get a > wireless one, what brand > > do you recomend? i do have a wirless g router > here. > > I don't know much about wireless technology or > setting it up > on FreeBSD, however, you're likely to be asked "Why > 5.0? > It is no longer supported, and is quite old. Have > you got > specific reasons for not going with 5.3, which is > the production > release?" So I'll just get that out of the way.... > ;) As was well said above, I also know little about wireless. And I certainly have little clue regarding your ositech card. I'm somewhat of a newbie. That being said, if you intend on purchasing a wireless card... you may wish to go for a certain manufacturer. I have been sucessful with NetGear's WG511v1 which uses the "Intersil" chipset (note 32bit cardbus... "newer" notebook required). "Project Evil" did not work at all with a Linksys WMP54GS (PCI) which was using the Broadcom chipset. If it helps, I experienced this angst in the following thread. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-October/059938.html While Eric's suggestions helped little with the broadcom chipset, it was great once I actually got a supported card. BTW, I would only recommend that you try this with FreeBSD 5.3. Good luck with any other! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 03:26:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76ED016A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:26:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D38C043D3F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:26:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from afabian@austin.rr.com) Received: from turingmachine.mentalsiege.net (cs70112247-52.austin.rr.com [70.112.247.52])iBN3Q48H026982; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:26:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from turingmachine.mentalsiege.net (turingmachine.mentalsiege.net [127.0.0.1])iBN3PqTB003751; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:25:59 -0600 Received: (from afabian@localhost)iBN3PqGk003750; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:25:52 -0600 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:25:52 -0600 From: afabian@austin.rr.com To: freebsd_daemon Message-ID: <20041223032552.GA3691@turingmachine.mentalsiege.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd_daemon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2365.1103713625@www17.gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2365.1103713625@www17.gmx.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with tar archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:26:08 -0000 On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 12:07:05PM +0100, freebsd_daemon wrote: > Dear list, > > # tar xvf ./varia.tar > ../varia/ > tar: ../varia/: Member name contains `..' > Is there a way to un-tar that archive despite of that? pax -r -s '#^\.\.\/##' varia.tar -- Adam Fabian (afabian@austin.rr.com) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 03:55:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2747D16A4D0 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:55:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 18EC643D2F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:55:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from benwy_01@yahoo.com.au) Received: from unknown (HELO ?210.54.96.251?) (benwy?01@210.54.96.251 with plain) by smtp015.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Dec 2004 03:55:11 -0000 Message-ID: <41CA414A.4030309@yahoo.com.au> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:53:46 +1300 From: Ben Washington-Yule User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040918 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Bandwith info command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:55:12 -0000 What command can I use to see what is using the bandwith on my 56kbs dialup internet connection? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 03:59:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C08016A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:59:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta.ncst.ernet.in (mta.ncst.ernet.in [202.141.151.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8333043D41 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:59:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from AntiVirus-System@ncst.ernet.in) Received: from mta.ncst.ernet.in (IDENT:root@mta.ncst.ernet.in [202.141.151.15]) by mta.ncst.ernet.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id iBNEowo11607 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:50:58 -0500 From: AntiVirus-System@ncst.ernet.in MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <41CADB50.0002DE.29502@mta.ncst.ernet.in> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:50:56 -0500 (GMT+5) To: Subject: Virus found in the message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:59:13 -0000 #Scanner: MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 Problem description: Email data: MessageID: <200412231450.iBNEoqB11540@mta.ncst.ernet.in> From: questions@freebsd.org To: guru@soochak.ncst.ernet.in Cc: Subject: Hello Scanning part [] Scanning part [Notice.zip] Attachment validity check: passed. Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 03:59:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C35516A4CF for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:59:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta.ncst.ernet.in (mta.ncst.ernet.in [202.141.151.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC2B43D55 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:59:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from AntiVirus-System@ncst.ernet.in) Received: from mta.ncst.ernet.in (IDENT:root@mta.ncst.ernet.in [202.141.151.15]) by mta.ncst.ernet.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id iBNEowo11620 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:50:58 -0500 From: AntiVirus-System@ncst.ernet.in MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <41CADB50.0002E0.29502@mta.ncst.ernet.in> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:50:56 -0500 (GMT+5) To: Subject: Message quarantined X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:59:13 -0000 #Scanner: MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 Problem description: Email data: MessageID: <200412231450.iBNEoqB11540@mta.ncst.ernet.in> From: questions@freebsd.org To: guru@soochak.ncst.ernet.in Cc: Subject: Hello Scanning part [] Scanning part [Notice.zip] Attachment validity check: passed. Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 04:18:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C030116A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 04:18:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usenet.ath.cx (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B5843D48 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 04:18:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from [10.0.0.3] (reader.usenet.ath.cx [10.0.0.3]) by usenet.ath.cx (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBN4ILB1029279; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:18:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <41CA470A.9080206@bah.homeip.net> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:18:18 +0100 From: "B. Hansson" User-Agent: Thunderbird-1.0 Freebsd-4.10-STABLE X-Accept-Language: sv, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Washington-Yule , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41CA414A.4030309@yahoo.com.au> In-Reply-To: <41CA414A.4030309@yahoo.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Bandwith info command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 04:18:23 -0000 Ben Washington-Yule skrev: > What command can I use to see what is using the bandwith on my 56kbs > dialup internet connection? > Kind of like bandwithd. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 04:19:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265A016A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 04:19:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail21.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail21.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDE543D2F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 04:19:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from j.knight@knightsolutions.com.au) Received: from jon (c211-28-158-33.brasd1.vic.optusnet.com.au [211.28.158.33]) iBN4JRVH028552 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:19:31 +1100 Message-Id: <200412230419.iBN4JRVH028552@mail21.syd.optusnet.com.au> From: "Jon Knight" To: Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:19:26 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcToppZ+u26IhV9EQfSCdX7zBrSkJQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Ndisulator - Linksys wireless-g PCI card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 04:19:37 -0000 Hi everyone, I have a wireless-g PCI Card Linksys WMP54G. Just installed FreeBSD 5.3 from CD. I'm trying to get this to work and talk to my access point which is also Linksys. I followed the instructions to compile the windows .inf and .sys into .h, .ko, .o. Did a 'make' on ndis as per instructions from a website I googled (I think it was http://www.xl0.org/FreeBSD/ndis.txt). I can see ndis0 in ifconfig, I can specify ifconfig ndis0 inet 192.168.0.8 netmask 255.255.255.0. Turned off wep on my AP to make things easier. Set the SSID. Now when I type ifconfig ndis0 media autoselect, nothing happens. Everything looks okay, I can locally ping the interface 192.168.0.8. I cannot wicontrol and list the local ap however. When I type ifconfig ndis0 mediaopt adhoc it says ndis0 link up. I try ifconfig ndis0 media autoselect and link is down. What's up with that (no pun intended) ? Many thanks Cheers, Jon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 04:25:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D40C16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 04:25:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.gotbrains.org (www2.gotbrains.org [206.180.149.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8AFB43D3F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 04:25:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from clists@gotbrains.org) Received: from igor.gotbrains.org (eagle.spinneret.com [206.180.139.69]) by www.gotbrains.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 702FA211C for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:25:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:25:22 -0600 From: "Stephen P. Cravey" To: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20041222222522.4d2c85e0.clists@gotbrains.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0rc (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: acpi problems on boot with new usb device. 5.3-R X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 04:25:23 -0000 I just got a new usb 8-in-1 media reader and when it is plugged into my motherboard, my boot cycle hangs at: npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard Normally, a: acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 would come next, however it's completely hung. I can plug the device into my motherboard after boot (once i've booted without it) and it seems to work fine until I need to reboot and then it hangs again. 'camcontrol devilist' shows 4 lines for it: at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (da0,pass0) at scbus1 target 0 lun 1 (da1,pass1) at scbus1 target 0 lun 2 (da2,pass2) at scbus1 target 0 lun 3 (da3,pass3) 'acpidump -t -d' gives me : "acpidump: RSDT entry 2 (sig OEMB) is corrupt" among an otherwise normal looking dump. I have a ASUS p4p800 deluxe motherboard running 5.3-RELEASE-p2 my usb controller dmesg lines look like: Intel 82801EB (ICH5) USB controller USB-A What other debugging steps do I need to perform for this? -Stephen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 04:39:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF02916A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 04:39:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grover.logicsquad.net (ppp52-7.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.52.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3DC4943D1F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 04:39:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paulh@logicsquad.net) Received: (qmail 78620 invoked by uid 1000); 23 Dec 2004 04:39:08 -0000 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:09:08 +1030 From: "Paul A. Hoadley" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041223043908.GB27542@grover.logicsquad.net> References: <20041216010258.GC93695@grover.logicsquad.net> <20041218224134.GA50538@grover.logicsquad.net> <41C5EB56.1000008@mac.com> <20041220122442.GA16576@grover.logicsquad.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041220122442.GA16576@grover.logicsquad.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Sendmail: host name lookup failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 04:39:11 -0000 --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 10:54:42PM +1030, Paul A. Hoadley wrote: > I have actually solved the problem. I intend to post a summary for > the archive when I return to the site later in the week, at which > time I'll be able to identify the OS/nameserver combination at > fault. I am told it's running Windows 2000 DNS Server. Presumably that's Microsoft's own DNS implementation built into Windows 2000. > Here's a teaser, though: it's a Microsoft product (I just don't know > which), and it's returing SERVFAIL status for a AAAA record query. Sometimes it behaves: > dig tsb.coremedicalsolutions.com. AAAA ; <<>> DiG 9.3.0 <<>> tsb.coremedicalsolutions.com. AAAA ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 8959 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;tsb.coremedicalsolutions.com. IN AAAA ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: coremedicalsolutions.com. 3600 IN SOA archibald2.coremedicalsolut= ions.com. marc.coremedicalsolutions.com. 1480 900 600 86400 3600 ;; Query time: 281 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.10.2#53(192.168.10.2) ;; WHEN: Thu Dec 23 15:03:23 2004 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 98 But sendmail seems intent on asking for just about every permutation on each domain name invovled, so sometimes it returns the bogus answer: > dig tsb AAAA ; <<>> DiG 9.3.0 <<>> tsb AAAA ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 43109 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;tsb. IN AAAA ;; Query time: 245 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.10.2#53(192.168.10.2) ;; WHEN: Thu Dec 23 15:04:42 2004 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 21 (By 'sometimes' I don't mean it's non-deterministic. Every time sendmail asks for the AAAA record of an unqualified hostname, the nameserver responds with SERVFAIL.) The consequence of this is that sendmail repeatedly defers delivery until the mail expires. > Curiously, sendmail's WorkAroundBrokenAAAA option did not help, and > I don't know why. Daryl Tester suggested using a mailertable entry, > and this worked. I still don't know why WorkAroundBrokenAAAA isn't working in this case. --=20 Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBykvs730Z/jysbzIRAt/OAJ0YRfxoGTPXbzN0RsHtt2KYOm1mQwCdHaJq 0xPzvY3Qau9doJYcCOsZhlY= =VXeI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 05:05:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A2116A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:05:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from S2.cableone.net (smtp2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F8443D2D for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:05:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net (unverified [24.119.123.89]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 5205794 for multiple; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:22:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:04:38 -0600 From: Vulpes Velox To: RL Message-ID: <20041222230438.47b49bbc@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 1, First 16, in=30, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.123.89 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Switching FreeBSD machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:05:40 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:27:18 -0500 RL wrote: > Hi. I have FBSD 5.3 on one machine. I'm thinking of buying a Dell > 420SC Server and would want to use FreeBSD on that. I went through a > hard time getting things to work on my current machine such as Java > and maybe a few other things, so I really would rather not start > from scratch. And I don't want to swap hard-drives because the Dell > comes with a nice Serial ATA drive I want to use. My only option > might be to clone the old FBSD box using g4Unix and putting it on > the Dell. Would kind of problems and headaches would I have with > that? > > Edit: Current machine is an Athlon and Dell server is a P4. Well there are a few problems and a few possible problems. If you move the drive another machine and it's place is changed, you will need to edit /etc/fstab. This is easy to do though. The big problem comes in if you compiled any tihng AMD specific into any thing. If you just left it at the default settings or set it to 686 or the like, you should be fine. For copying just look at dd. If moving to a different size of drive, just create the partitions, mount them, and then copy the stuff over. What problem you running into with java? No clue about g4unix since I've never heard of it before. I would just do as I mentioned above. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 05:16:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F63116A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:16:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rooster.chubbo.net (rooster.chubbo.net [168.75.98.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D9B43D39 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:16:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@chubbo.net) Received: from rooster.chubbo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rooster.chubbo.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id iBN5G6NU094749 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:16:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@chubbo.net) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by rooster.chubbo.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id iBN5G6Pc094748 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:16:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@chubbo.net) X-Authentication-Warning: rooster.chubbo.net: nobody set sender to freebsd-questions@chubbo.net using -f Received: from c-67-169-93-71.client.comcast.net (c-67-169-93-71.client.comcast.net [67.169.93.71]) by mail.chubbo.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:16:06 -0800 Message-ID: <1103778966.41ca5496059b9@mail.chubbo.net> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:16:06 -0800 From: Joseph To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Subject: Re: Copying a directory hierarchy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:16:06 -0000 > > > How does on copy a complete directory hierarchy, including any hidden > > > files? cd /path tar cf - . | (cd /other/path; tar -xf -) works like a charm. joe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 05:38:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F1A16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:38:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fed1rmmtao09.cox.net (fed1rmmtao09.cox.net [68.230.241.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C1643D2D for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:38:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mnavarre@cox.net) Received: from reichlieu.lan ([68.6.195.68]) by fed1rmmtao09.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id <20041223053812.FPCY2638.fed1rmmtao09.cox.net@reichlieu.lan>; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:38:12 -0500 Received: from reichlieu.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by reichlieu.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBN5cBpD041188; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:38:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mnavarre@cox.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by reichlieu.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBN5cA06041187; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:38:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mnavarre@cox.net) X-Authentication-Warning: reichlieu.lan: mnavarre set sender to mnavarre@cox.net using -f From: Matt Navarre To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:38:08 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <000601c4e78e$c13ed7f0$a23db918@D1TWQX41> <200412230035.iBN0Zxu26047@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <20041223014043.GB28829@gamerasmog.com> In-Reply-To: <20041223014043.GB28829@gamerasmog.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412222138.10572.mnavarre@cox.net> X-SA-Scanned: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.41 cc: Jerry McAllister cc: Joshua Tinnin cc: Leon Subject: Re: VIM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:38:13 -0000 On Wednesday 22 December 2004 05:40 pm, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 07:35:58PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have installed a VIM editor. > > > When I create a new file with this editor, I can't type anything. > > > What is wrong. > > > > I have not used VIM - installed it once, but never really used it. > > But, it is basically like vi to use, I think. I have a very basic vi > > HowTo that I wrote up for our sites. It might help you get started. > > > > It is at: http://scnc.k12.mi.us/howto/edit/vi.html > > I personally love vim. You can also try emacs, but you might as well get > used to vi if you're going to run any *nix - vim is basically vi > extended, although it will operate exactly like vi for the purists if > you configure it to do that. It's not intuitive, but once you get used > to it it's very efficient. I use it for all sorts of editing, including > composing email in Mutt. Joshua Lokken posted some good vim tutorials, > and there's another one here: http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/9039 > > Here's another vi tutorial: > http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/10/25/FreeBSD_Basics.html And, of course, there's always /usr/local/bin/vimtutor which is vim's 'canonical' tutorial. Any vi tutorial will teach you the basics of what you need to know about vim, but vim is *so much more*, once you get the vi basics under your fingers. > > - jt > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 05:56:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3229416A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:56:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from natnoddy.rzone.de (natnoddy.rzone.de [81.169.145.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84ECC43D5C for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:56:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kaasboer@laverenz.de) Received: from athena.laverenz.de (pD9550E50.dip.t-dialin.net [217.85.14.80]) by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBN5u4X9015034 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:56:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A3DE385BE7 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:56:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from athena.laverenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (athena [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26023-04 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:56:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from brianna.laverenz.de (wrt54g.laverenz.de [192.168.100.44]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E8EE023E23 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:56:04 +0100 (CET) Received: by brianna.laverenz.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 314F4D4C13; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:56:00 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:56:00 +0100 From: Uwe Laverenz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041223055516.GF795@brianna.laverenz.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41C81621.50906@nbritton.org> <20041221144829.GA5859@laverenz.de> <41C9D389.9030602@nbritton.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41C9D389.9030602@nbritton.org> Organization: private site Sender: uwe@laverenz.de User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at laverenz.de Subject: Re: Armada 17xx, ACPI thermal management broken. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:56:08 -0000 On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 02:05:29PM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote: > How?, I added it to my kernel "device apm", "device pmtimer", and > "device amp_saver" and rebuilt it and in rc.conf I added > apm_enable="YES", apmd_enable="YES" and I greped though I think you would also have to disable ACPI. This could be done by adding hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" to /boot/device.hints. > I want ACPI!, APM is a last ditch hack to me, the name says it all > "Advanced Configuration and Power Interface" there is a reason they > switched to it. The 440BX chipset has full support for ACPI and > therefore should work with FreeBSD and is a critical problem, what do > you think might happen if you disable all your fans on your computer???. As I said: I might be wrong, but I think the Armada simply is too old for a correct implementation of ACPI, it was build for APM. So, the problem is not FreeBSD, it's the Armada. > Please note that I'm not trying to diss FreeBSD in anyway for it being > broken as I understand the issues with the DSDT, AML, and ASL stuff, I > just want it to work. Other system would also show this problem, the fan never starts to work under Linux (tested FC3 a few weeks ago). I really don't know if it's possible to get ACPI+FreeBSD 5.x+Armada 1750 to work, I can only say that it worked perfectly with FreeBSD 4.x and APM. And I can say that FreeBSD+ACPI works great on newer notebooks (evo N160, IBM Thinkpad...). cu, Uwe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 05:57:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7066116A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:57:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sampson.aptedtech.com (sampson.aptedtech.com [209.124.140.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE38643D45 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:57:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dhull@digitaloverload.net) Received: (qmail 6217 invoked by uid 66); 23 Dec 2004 07:14:14 -0000 Received: from dhull@digitaloverload.net by sampson.aptedtech.com by uid 60 with qmail-scanner-1.15 (sophie: 2.10/3.63. Clear:. Processed in 0.080751 secs); 23 Dec 2004 07:14:14 -0000 Received: from 209-124-142-204.olive.dsl.arctic.net (HELO tower1.digitaloverload.local) (209.124.142.204) by sampson.customcpu.com with SMTP; 23 Dec 2004 07:14:13 -0000 From: Damien Hull To: Chuck Swiger In-Reply-To: <41C8DC87.5080207@mac.com> References: <20041221104508.1002.qmail@rahul.net> <41C8DC87.5080207@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:57:00 -0900 Message-Id: <1103781420.16972.17.camel@tower1.digitaloverload.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: UFS2 with Soft Updates Robust? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:57:13 -0000 On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 21:31 -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote: > John Conover wrote: > > Is UFS2 with soft updates the most robust file system in freebsd? > > No, although UFS2 with softupdates is robust enough for production use. > > If you make the filesystem writes syncronous and disable write caching on the > hard drive, you will improve the robustness at significant cost to performance. > Are you saying that the UFS2 file system sucks? If so what options does one have? I've read that softupdates should be turned on. How much of a performance loss will I see if I turn softupates off? -- Damien Hull From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 06:09:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF88016A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:09:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta11.adelphia.net (mta11.adelphia.net [68.168.78.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54BC143D49 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:09:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alex@mactutor.biz) Received: from [192.168.0.50] (really [24.52.22.23]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with ESMTP id <20041223060938.NJGO1403.mta11.adelphia.net@[192.168.0.50]>; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:09:38 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1103778966.41ca5496059b9@mail.chubbo.net> References: <1103778966.41ca5496059b9@mail.chubbo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <3BBEB351-54A9-11D9-8FFD-000D9347C178@mactutor.biz> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Alexander Sendzimir (owner) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:09:41 -0500 To: Joseph X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Copying a directory hierarchy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:09:40 -0000 Another variation: tar cf - -C /source/path directory | tar xf - -C /destination/path On Dec 23, 2004, at 12:16 AM, Joseph wrote: > > >>>> How does on copy a complete directory hierarchy, including any >>>> hidden >>>> files? > > cd /path > tar cf - . | (cd /other/path; tar -xf -) > > works like a charm. > > joe > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Alexander Sendzimir (owner) 802 863 5502 MacTutor: Apple Mac OS X Consulting info@mactutor.biz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 06:14:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF7C16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:14:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av5-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (av5-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E57C43D54 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:14:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: by av5-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 950313800A; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:14:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.178]) by av5-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FB337EF3 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:14:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h201n1fls24o1048.bredband.comhem.se [212.181.162.201]) by smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E00A37E44 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:14:49 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 85901 invoked by uid 1001); 23 Dec 2004 06:14:48 -0000 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:14:48 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Damien Hull Message-ID: <20041223061448.GA74828@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Damien Hull , Chuck Swiger , freebsd-questions References: <20041221104508.1002.qmail@rahul.net> <41C8DC87.5080207@mac.com> <1103781420.16972.17.camel@tower1.digitaloverload.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1103781420.16972.17.camel@tower1.digitaloverload.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: UFS2 with Soft Updates Robust? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:14:51 -0000 On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:57:00PM -0900, Damien Hull wrote: > On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 21:31 -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote: > > John Conover wrote: > > > Is UFS2 with soft updates the most robust file system in freebsd? > > > > No, although UFS2 with softupdates is robust enough for production use. > > > > If you make the filesystem writes syncronous and disable write caching on the > > hard drive, you will improve the robustness at significant cost to performance. > > > > Are you saying that the UFS2 file system sucks? Not at all, but standard IDE-drives suck when it comes to robustness. (They tend to lie and tell the OS that data has been written to the disk, when in reality it has only been written to the disks cache.) (Thus the advice above to turn off write-caching for maximum robustness.) If you use softupdates (on a disk that doesn't lie) the filesystem on the disk will always be consistent, but data written during the last 30 seconds or so might not yet have been written to the disk, and can therefore be lost if e.g. the power to the computer is turned off. > If so what options does > one have? If UFS2 + softupdates + decent hardware is not sufficiently robust for you there is little else you can do. (Unless you take Chuck Swiger's advice above and mount the filesystem synchronously and turn off the writecache which should give a slight increase in robustness at the cost of a huge drop in write-performance.) > > I've read that softupdates should be turned on. How much of a > performance loss will I see if I turn softupates off? Depends. For read performance you should not see any difference. For write performance it will depend both on your hardware and how much load you put on the disks. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 06:31:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD9A16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:31:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from addr14.addr.com (addr14.addr.com [209.249.147.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF2B43D39 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:31:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markski@addr14.addr.com) Received: from addr14.addr.com (localhost.addr.com [127.0.0.1]) iBN6VHiu071450 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:31:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from markski@localhost) by addr14.addr.com (8.12.8/8.12.7/Submit) id iBN6UtFc071325 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:30:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:30:50 -0800 From: Mark To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041222223050.A67744@logik.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i X-ADDRSpamFilter: Passed, probability (0%) X-ADDRSignature: 1036E272 Subject: Xorg & xdm & securelevels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:31:36 -0000 Hello. I realise this may have been covered before and that this may not be the correct list (freebsd-x11 seemed to be more about developement rather than configuration) but anyway: I would like to push my securelevel up to 1 in order to better enforce my security policy (protecting chflags, kernel modules etc) but this of course would break Xorg as it requires access to /dev/io. I've heard that it's possible to run Xorg via xdm whilst the system is booting at securelevel 0 and have the securelevel raised afterwards, effectively allowing X to live in a securelevel > 0 environment. How painful is this to implement? Am I likely to run into any major problems? I've also heard that it's possible to remove the SUID bit from X by using xdm, but that's probably for another thread... Any comments, advice, pointers to articles or screams of distaste are welcomed. Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 06:37:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D4616A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:37:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD67743D53 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:37:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from conover@rahul.net) Received: from green.rahul.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 19555BE8BE for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:37:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17930 invoked by uid 4199); 23 Dec 2004 06:36:03 -0000 Date: 23 Dec 2004 06:36:03 -0000 Message-ID: <20041223063603.17929.qmail@rahul.net> To: Damien Hull In-Reply-To: <1103781420.16972.17.camel@tower1.digitaloverload.local> References: <20041221104508.1002.qmail@rahul.net> <41C8DC87.5080207@mac.com> <1103781420.16972.17.camel@tower1.digitaloverload.local> From: conover@rahul.net (John Conover) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: UFS2 with Soft Updates Robust? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Conover List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:37:29 -0000 Damien Hull writes: > On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 21:31 -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote: > > John Conover wrote: > > > Is UFS2 with soft updates the most robust file system in freebsd? > > > > No, although UFS2 with softupdates is robust enough for production use. > > > > If you make the filesystem writes syncronous and disable write caching on the > > hard drive, you will improve the robustness at significant cost to performance. > > > > Are you saying that the UFS2 file system sucks? If so what options does > one have? > > I've read that softupdates should be turned on. How much of a > performance loss will I see if I turn softupates off? > Oh, no, not at all, Damien-I consider UFS/FFS quite sturdy. I put it in a PC with softupdates on, (and no other options, like cache write through, synchronous writes, etc.,) and for 30 minutes cycled the machine's power switch 15 times, hitting the power as soon as fsck started, etc. to see if I could induce an exception/fault scenario with something it couldn't fix auto'magically. Also, I hit the power switch with a dozen cat /dev/zero > bigfile1, ..., processes, too-after they had filled up about 20G of spinning real estate. UFS/FFS withstood the abuse well. So I have been told, for maximum reliability/durability, cache write through should be enabled, along with synchronous writes-albeit at a substantial speed penalty, (I don't know how much-that's a test for another day.) So far, I've done this on about a half dozen open source OS distributions, and one Sys V Rel. 4 with Veritas journaling FS. FreeBSD and Veritas are the only two that survived. John For the record, the box is an Intel reference MB, and an Adaptec 2940UW, with a Fujitsu 35G SCSI drive. All out of the box default settings. No RAID. -- John Conover, conover@rahul.net, http://www.johncon.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 06:43:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD3316A4D3 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:43:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp2.bahnhof.se (smtp2.bahnhof.se [213.80.101.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A7C43D41 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:43:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark.rowlands@mypost.se) Received: from mfilter2.bahnhof.se (mail.bahnhof.se [213.136.33.1]) by smtp2.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3011288F4D for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:43:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by re-injector2.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B278AA573 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:43:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp5.bahnhof.se ([213.136.33.1]) by localhost (mfilter2.bahnhof.se [10.0.1.22]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26424-01 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:43:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from pcmarpxy.mine.nu (81-170-150-191.bahnhofbredband.net [81.170.150.191]) by smtp5.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B3593B6A for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:43:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.mwrwin2k.se [127.0.0.1]) by pcmarpxy.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B77D6105F0 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:43:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from pcmarpxy.mine.nu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pcmarpxy.mine.nu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 86911-01 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:43:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from exchsrv1.mwrwin2k.se (kalendar.mine.nu [192.168.0.4]) by pcmarpxy.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C502510515 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:49:23 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:49:19 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Where to report successful hardware configurations Thread-Index: AcToeHkY/ZU6r86tRkG13c63To4zrw== From: "Mark Rowlands" To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at bahnhof.se Subject: Where to report successful hardware configurations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:43:18 -0000 I recently got the opportunity to get a Lacie external firewire disk and interface card cheap. I configured firewire into my kernel, rebooted, and was pleased...and surprised when it actually worked. I was surprised because extensive trawling of google and the bsd mailing lists gave no indication of whether it would or wouldd not work. So the question is Where do you report such happy accidents so that this can be documented as functional? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 06:49:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD22F16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:49:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cromagnon.cullmail.com (cromagnon.cullmail.com [67.33.58.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63DBE43D48 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:49:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jamoore@cromagnon.cullmail.com) Received: from cromagnon.cullmail.com (localhost.cullmail.com [127.0.0.1]) iBN6kexY059933; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:46:40 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jamoore@cromagnon.cullmail.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by cromagnon.cullmail.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id iBN6kdAt059932; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:46:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jamoore) From: Jay Moore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Troy Mills Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:46:39 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200412230046.39559.jaymo@cromagnon.cullmail.com> Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Foundation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jaymo@cromagnon.cullmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:49:23 -0000 On Wednesday 22 December 2004 11:02 am, Troy Mills wrote: > > As some of you may or may not know the FreeBSD Foundation supports the > FreeBSD developers financially via funds mainly from donations from > the public. Anyway there is a IRS "1/3rd test" for "public support" > and the current foundation ratio that is a little out of whack due to > a few generous people donating large sums of money. I have no idea > what will happen if they cannot remain a public charity but I'm sure > the affects wont be positive as they clearly stated that it is in > there interest to remain a public charity. > > I'm in no position to be shelling out lots of money right now but I'm > going to do my part and I would hope that some of you chip in as well. > from my understanding they need a larger number of people donating a > smaller amount to correct the ratio. QUESTION: Do sales of the FreeBSD CDs support the project? And if so, now? I thought I _was_ supporting the project through my CD subscription... I was not aware of the FreeBSD Foundation (thanks for the enlightenment), but financial support for software developers of any kind seems a bit of a stretch for a "charity". Perhaps I'm just not in tune with the legal definition of a charity. Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 06:50:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D3D16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:50:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C890343D31 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:50:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from conover@rahul.net) Received: from green.rahul.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 10BEABE8C0 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:50:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 18135 invoked by uid 4199); 23 Dec 2004 06:48:41 -0000 Date: 23 Dec 2004 06:48:41 -0000 Message-ID: <20041223064841.18134.qmail@rahul.net> To: Erik Trulsson In-Reply-To: <20041223061448.GA74828@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> References: <20041221104508.1002.qmail@rahul.net> <41C8DC87.5080207@mac.com> <1103781420.16972.17.camel@tower1.digitaloverload.local> <20041223061448.GA74828@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> From: conover@rahul.net (John Conover) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Damien Hull cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: UFS2 with Soft Updates Robust? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Conover List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:50:12 -0000 Erik Trulsson writes: > On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:57:00PM -0900, Damien Hull wrote: > > On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 21:31 -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote: > > > John Conover wrote: > > > > Is UFS2 with soft updates the most robust file system in freebsd? > > > > > > No, although UFS2 with softupdates is robust enough for production use. > > > > > > If you make the filesystem writes syncronous and disable write caching on the > > > hard drive, you will improve the robustness at significant cost to performance. > > > > > > > Are you saying that the UFS2 file system sucks? > > Not at all, but standard IDE-drives suck when it comes to robustness. > (They tend to lie and tell the OS that data has been written to the > disk, when in reality it has only been written to the disks cache.) > (Thus the advice above to turn off write-caching for maximum > robustness.) > > If you use softupdates (on a disk that doesn't lie) the filesystem on > the disk will always be consistent, but data written during the last 30 > seconds or so might not yet have been written to the disk, and can therefore > be lost if e.g. the power to the computer is turned off. > Erik, does that mean if you use softupdates, (on a SCSI,) that, although file(s) currently being written may be truncated since the cache is not flushed, that the file system can be repaired automatically by fsck to a consistent state? Even without synchronous writes or enabling cache write through? John BTW, the reason for the question is that most SCSIs today have many meg of HW cache, and many, (maybe most,) controllers don't permit write through anymore. So, even if the OS flushes its cache, the HW cache may not be written to the disk-so synchronous writes and OS cache write through may be of little value. -- John Conover, conover@rahul.net, http://www.johncon.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 08:07:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841B716A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:07:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51608.mail.yahoo.com (web51608.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 036E543D62 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:07:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jay2xra@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 5690 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Dec 2004 08:07:51 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=hJrcOUcjH60THzYL5Qf7P8jVORvL3XYdUiegXJXQK3006z0CBrAn9yGbXNpdtuee9rTKr4vMPfhGN71/5tIFywRhrlVX6QlZV5S5LHFgfPzOIBZXMvIVTm6eJfM6EFO60Zk/xB824wokIWcuISLVacWDJTD/gyvDTrGQCzybOQw= ; Message-ID: <20041223080751.5688.qmail@web51608.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.249.25.43] by web51608.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:07:51 PST Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:07:51 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Jayson Alvarez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: 3com 3c2000-T gigabyte ethernet support fbsd410 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:07:52 -0000 I think this has been asked in this list before, I've found it at the archive but there's no useful reply. Is 3com 3c2000-T gigabyte ethernet card supported on freebsd 4.10? If so, what's the driver? Thanks... --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 08:52:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD6C16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:52:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av7-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (av7-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D67943D39 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:52:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: by av7-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 624763800B; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:52:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (smtp4-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.180]) by av7-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D2537F48 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:52:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h201n1fls24o1048.bredband.comhem.se [212.181.162.201]) by smtp4-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 111DC37E48 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:52:39 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 20255 invoked by uid 1001); 23 Dec 2004 08:52:39 -0000 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:52:39 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: John Conover Message-ID: <20041223085239.GA20209@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: John Conover , Damien Hull , freebsd-questions References: <20041221104508.1002.qmail@rahul.net> <41C8DC87.5080207@mac.com> <1103781420.16972.17.camel@tower1.digitaloverload.local> <20041223061448.GA74828@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20041223064841.18134.qmail@rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041223064841.18134.qmail@rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: Damien Hull cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: UFS2 with Soft Updates Robust? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:52:42 -0000 On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 06:48:41AM -0000, John Conover wrote: > Erik Trulsson writes: > > On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:57:00PM -0900, Damien Hull wrote: > > > On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 21:31 -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote: > > > > John Conover wrote: > > > > > Is UFS2 with soft updates the most robust file system in freebsd? > > > > > > > > No, although UFS2 with softupdates is robust enough for production use. > > > > > > > > If you make the filesystem writes syncronous and disable write caching on the > > > > hard drive, you will improve the robustness at significant cost to performance. > > > > > > > > > > Are you saying that the UFS2 file system sucks? > > > > Not at all, but standard IDE-drives suck when it comes to robustness. > > (They tend to lie and tell the OS that data has been written to the > > disk, when in reality it has only been written to the disks cache.) > > (Thus the advice above to turn off write-caching for maximum > > robustness.) > > > > If you use softupdates (on a disk that doesn't lie) the filesystem on > > the disk will always be consistent, but data written during the last 30 > > seconds or so might not yet have been written to the disk, and can therefore > > be lost if e.g. the power to the computer is turned off. > > > > Erik, does that mean if you use softupdates, (on a SCSI,) that, > although file(s) currently being written may be truncated since the > cache is not flushed, that the file system can be repaired > automatically by fsck to a consistent state? That is the idea. With softupdates the filesystem *on the disk* should always be in a consistent state, such that fsck should always succeed. (At least that is the theory, I haven't tested how well it holds in reality.) > > Even without synchronous writes or enabling cache write through? > > John > > BTW, the reason for the question is that most SCSIs today have many > meg of HW cache, and many, (maybe most,) controllers don't permit > write through anymore. So, even if the OS flushes its cache, the HW > cache may not be written to the disk-so synchronous writes and OS > cache write through may be of little value. The only cache that can mess up things is that on the disk itself. Forget about any caches managed by the OS - they are handled by the filesystem code and flushed when needed. The cache on the disk is another matter. One difference between SCSI and IDE is that SCSI support tagging which lets the OS determine if a given block has actually been written to the disk or just to the disk's cache. This is needed for softupdates to work correctly. On IDE-disks this information is often not available which means that you may need to disable the write-cache on the disk (or at least make it write-through) to be able to rely on the guarantees of softupdates. A few IDE-disks and some of the newer S-ATA disks also support tagged queueing, but support for that is not nearly as good as it is for SCSI - not yet anyway. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 09:09:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A81416A4CE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:09:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 231DC43D58; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:09:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20041223090917i9100rfkcae>; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:09:18 +0000 Message-ID: <41CA8B3A.2060803@nbritton.org> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:09:14 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Uwe Laverenz References: <41C81621.50906@nbritton.org> <20041221144829.GA5859@laverenz.de> <41C9D389.9030602@nbritton.org> <20041223055516.GF795@brianna.laverenz.de> In-Reply-To: <20041223055516.GF795@brianna.laverenz.de> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080309050800000302060704" cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Armada 17xx, ACPI thermal management broken. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:09:24 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080309050800000302060704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Uwe Laverenz wrote: >On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 02:05:29PM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > >>How?, I added it to my kernel "device apm", "device pmtimer", and >>"device amp_saver" and rebuilt it and in rc.conf I added >>apm_enable="YES", apmd_enable="YES" and I greped though >> >> > >I think you would also have to disable ACPI. This could be done by >adding hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" to /boot/device.hints. > > Umm, I think I did (but not sure) I always hit option 2 at the loader prompt, 2 disables ACPI, if I don't do that with apm compiled into the system it won't boot, if I pick option 1 (ACPI enable) without apm compiled in the system works fine, the only major problem is that it shuts it's self down after 5 - 10minutes because of overheating.... also when I compile in apm support I had weird screen problems, after like 10-20minutes the screen stops working and I have to hit a key for the STDOUT to keep going (I'm not talking about the screen "blanking") and then awial after that the system becomes unresponsive to any STDIN/STDOUT and have to do a hard reboot... also If I open and close the lid three times In X without ACPI or APM enabled the screen blanks permanently, I have to ether kill X or Ctrl + Alt + F[1-8] to get back to a console and then go back to X. > > >>I want ACPI!, APM is a last ditch hack to me, the name says it all >>"Advanced Configuration and Power Interface" there is a reason they >>switched to it. The 440BX chipset has full support for ACPI and >>therefore should work with FreeBSD and is a critical problem, what do >>you think might happen if you disable all your fans on your computer???. >> >> > >As I said: I might be wrong, but I think the Armada simply is too old >for a correct implementation of ACPI, it was build for APM. So, the >problem is not FreeBSD, it's the Armada. > > I hope you are, AFAIK the 440BX/MX is fully compliant to the ACPI spec (read the Intel docs) and in the BIOS the only real options I see are to enable/disable ACPI, also, Both my IBM Netfinity 3500s (440LX) work fine with ACPI (as well as APIC and MP support). My laptop is also a later model (I think?) (6366/T14/6400/D/M/1; p2@366, 14.1 LCD, 6.4GB), the pre-installed OS's for these systems where NT4, Win98, and Win95... Intel 440BX AGPset (82443BX): PCI 2.1 Compliant APIC PC-98 Compliant SMBus DIMM Serial PD PIIX4E Power Management: Stop Clock Grant and Halt special cycle translation Mobile and Deep Green Desktop support for system suspend/resume Dynamic power down of idle DRAM rows SDRAM self-refresh power down support in suspend mode Independent, internal dynamic clock gating reduces average power dissipation Static STOP CLOCK support Power-on Suspend mode Suspend to DRAM ACPI Intel 8237EB: ?? COMPAQ RSDTBL: ??, ACPI Intel Mobile Pentium II PE: Core: Dixon, 0.25 Front Side Bus: 66MHz L1-Cache: 32KB (16KB instruction, 16KB data) L2-Cache: 256KB full speed on die Package: Mini-Cartridge? Features: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR Core Voltage: 1.6V Power: 11 - 13Watts Max Operational Temperature: 100C (212F) > > >>Please note that I'm not trying to diss FreeBSD in anyway for it being >>broken as I understand the issues with the DSDT, AML, and ASL stuff, I >>just want it to work. >> >> > >Other system would also show this problem, the fan never starts to work >under Linux (tested FC3 a few weeks ago). > >I really don't know if it's possible to get ACPI+FreeBSD 5.x+Armada 1750 >to work, I can only say that it worked perfectly with FreeBSD 4.x >and APM. And I can say that FreeBSD+ACPI works great on newer notebooks >(evo N160, IBM Thinkpad...). > > When I try it with Linux it worked, in fact, here is a patch for kernel 2.6.7: https://kilobyte.dyndns.info/linux/armada_1700_dsdt_linux-2.6.7.diff.bz2 "Compaq Armada 1700/1750 ACPI/Sound/PM/i2c kernel patch: This patch(2.6.7) fixes the DSDT (broken aml) at bootup (Fan Control works now, changed TZ trip points) and fixes the temperature problem. It also forces the i2c-bus to be enabled at startup and modifies the initial values mpu_io, io, irq, dma and dma16 of the soundcard, therefore there is no need to append them to kernel cmdline anymore (if you want to use oss). Note: The fix is nonpersistent. " So as you see there is already a DSDT/AML/ASL/Whatever fix for it, It just needs to be ported to BSD. Is there a way I can just disable the ACPI thermal management, then I could use ACPI until someone with more clout and programming know how decides to fix it? Thanks for your help so far Nikolas --------------080309050800000302060704 Content-Type: text/plain; name="dsdt_aml_fix" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="dsdt_aml_fix" + * Intel ACPI Component Architecture + * ASL Optimizing Compiler / AML Disassembler version 20030522 [May 23 2003] + * Copyright (C) 2000 - 2003 Intel Corporation + * Supports ACPI Specification Revision 2.0b + * + * Compilation of "dsdt.asl" - Thu Mar 11 13:09:58 2004 + * + * C source code output + * + */ +unsigned char AmlCode[] = +{ + 0x44,0x53,0x44,0x54,0x02,0x4A,0x00,0x00, /* 00000000 "DSDT.J.." */ + 0x01,0xF6,0x43,0x4F,0x4D,0x50,0x41,0x51, /* 00000008 "..COMPAQ" */ + 0x41,0x52,0x4D,0x41,0x44,0x41,0x31,0x37, /* 00000010 "ARMADA17" */ + 0x00,0x00,0x01,0x00,0x49,0x4E,0x54,0x4C, /* 00000018 "....INTL" */ + 0x22,0x05,0x03,0x20,0x10,0x4B,0x10,0x5F, /* 00000020 "".. .K._" */ + 0x53,0x42,0x5F,0x5B,0x82,0x43,0x10,0x43, /* 00000028 "SB_[.C.C" */ + 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0x52,0x0C,0x00,0x00,0x07,0x00,0x08,0x43, /* 00000340 "R......C" */ + 0x30,0x32,0x42,0x00,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x32, /* 00000348 "02B..C02" */ + 0x43,0x00,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x32,0x44,0x00, /* 00000350 "C..C02D." */ + 0x08,0x43,0x30,0x32,0x45,0x00,0x08,0x43, /* 00000358 ".C02E..C" */ + 0x30,0x32,0x46,0x00,0x5B,0x80,0x43,0x30, /* 00000360 "02F.[.C0" */ + 0x33,0x30,0x02,0x0A,0x60,0x0A,0x04,0x5B, /* 00000368 "30..`..[" */ + 0x81,0x1A,0x43,0x30,0x33,0x30,0x00,0x43, /* 00000370 "..C030.C" */ + 0x30,0x33,0x31,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x33,0x32, /* 00000378 "031.C032" */ + 0x08,0x43,0x30,0x33,0x33,0x08,0x43,0x30, /* 00000380 ".C033.C0" */ + 0x33,0x34,0x08,0x5B,0x80,0x43,0x30,0x33, /* 00000388 "34.[.C03" */ + 0x35,0x02,0x0A,0x90,0x0A,0x02,0x5B,0x81, /* 00000390 "5.....[." */ + 0x0B,0x43,0x30,0x33,0x35,0x00,0x43,0x30, /* 00000398 ".C035.C0" */ + 0x33,0x36,0x10,0x5B,0x80,0x43,0x30,0x33, /* 000003A0 "36.[.C03" */ + 0x37,0x02,0x0A,0xB0,0x0A,0x04,0x5B,0x81, /* 000003A8 "7.....[." */ + 0x1A,0x43,0x30,0x33,0x37,0x00,0x43,0x30, /* 000003B0 ".C037.C0" */ + 0x33,0x38,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x33,0x39,0x08, /* 000003B8 "38.C039." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x33,0x41,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x33, /* 000003C0 "C03A.C03" */ + 0x42,0x08,0x5B,0x80,0x43,0x30,0x33,0x43, /* 000003C8 "B.[.C03C" */ + 0x01,0x0A,0xB2,0x01,0x5B,0x81,0x0B,0x43, /* 000003D0 "....[..C" */ + 0x30,0x33,0x43,0x00,0x43,0x30,0x33,0x44, /* 000003D8 "03C.C03D" */ + 0x08,0x5B,0x80,0x43,0x30,0x33,0x45,0x00, /* 000003E0 ".[.C03E." */ + 0x0C,0x00,0x80,0x0F,0x00,0x0A,0x02,0x5B, /* 000003E8 ".......[" */ + 0x81,0x0B,0x43,0x30,0x33,0x45,0x02,0x43, /* 000003F0 "..C03E.C" */ + 0x30,0x33,0x46,0x10,0x14,0x13,0x43,0x30, /* 000003F8 "03F...C0" */ + 0x34,0x30,0x00,0x72,0x43,0x30,0x33,0x46, /* 00000400 "40.rC03F" */ + 0x0C,0x00,0x00,0x0F,0x00,0x60,0xA4,0x60, /* 00000408 ".....`.`" */ + 0x5B,0x80,0x43,0x30,0x34,0x31,0x00,0x43, /* 00000410 "[.C041.C" */ + 0x30,0x34,0x30,0x0A,0x05,0x5B,0x81,0x1F, /* 00000418 "040..[.." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x34,0x31,0x00,0x43,0x30,0x34, /* 00000420 "C041.C04" */ + 0x32,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x34,0x33,0x08,0x43, /* 00000428 "2.C043.C" */ + 0x30,0x34,0x34,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x34,0x35, /* 00000430 "044.C045" */ + 0x08,0x43,0x30,0x34,0x36,0x08,0x14,0x2A, /* 00000438 ".C046..*" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x34,0x37,0x02,0x77,0x68,0x0A, /* 00000440 "C047.wh." */ + 0x02,0x60,0x79,0x0A,0x03,0x60,0x61,0x79, /* 00000448 ".`y..`ay" */ + 0x69,0x60,0x62,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x33,0x36, /* 00000450 "i`bpC036" */ + 0x63,0x7B,0x63,0x80,0x61,0x00,0x63,0x7D, /* 00000458 "c{c.a.c}" */ + 0x63,0x62,0x63,0x70,0x63,0x43,0x30,0x33, /* 00000460 "cbcpcC03" */ + 0x36,0x10,0x49,0x27,0x2E,0x5F,0x53,0x42, /* 00000468 "6.I'._SB" */ + 0x5F,0x43,0x30,0x30,0x30,0x5B,0x82,0x4C, /* 00000470 "_C000[.L" */ + 0x26,0x43,0x30,0x34,0x38,0x08,0x5F,0x41, /* 00000478 "&C048._A" */ + 0x44,0x52,0x0C,0x03,0x00,0x07,0x00,0x5B, /* 00000480 "DR.....[" */ + 0x80,0x43,0x30,0x34,0x39,0x02,0x0A,0x50, /* 00000488 ".C049..P" */ + 0x0A,0x28,0x5B,0x81,0x38,0x43,0x30,0x34, /* 00000490 ".([.8C04" */ + 0x39,0x00,0x43,0x30,0x34,0x41,0x20,0x43, /* 00000498 "9.C04A C" */ + 0x30,0x34,0x42,0x20,0x43,0x30,0x34,0x43, /* 000004A0 "04B C04C" */ + 0x20,0x43,0x30,0x34,0x44,0x20,0x43,0x30, /* 000004A8 " C04D C0" */ + 0x34,0x45,0x20,0x43,0x30,0x34,0x46,0x20, /* 000004B0 "4E C04F " */ + 0x43,0x30,0x35,0x30,0x20,0x43,0x30,0x35, /* 000004B8 "C050 C05" */ + 0x31,0x20,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x32,0x20,0x43, /* 000004C0 "1 C052 C" */ + 0x30,0x35,0x33,0x20,0x14,0x4A,0x07,0x43, /* 000004C8 "053 .J.C" */ + 0x30,0x35,0x34,0x01,0xA0,0x1B,0x93,0x68, /* 000004D0 "054....h" */ + 0x00,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x34,0x45,0x60,0x70, /* 000004D8 ".pC04E`p" */ + 0x0C,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xDF,0x61,0x7B,0x60, /* 000004E0 ".....a{`" */ + 0x61,0x60,0x70,0x60,0x43,0x30,0x34,0x45, /* 000004E8 "a`p`C04E" */ + 0xA0,0x1C,0x93,0x68,0x0A,0x03,0x70,0x43, /* 000004F0 "...h..pC" */ + 0x30,0x34,0x44,0x60,0x70,0x0C,0xFF,0xFF, /* 000004F8 "04D`p..." */ + 0xFF,0x7F,0x61,0x7B,0x60,0x61,0x60,0x70, /* 00000500 "..a{`a`p" */ + 0x60,0x43,0x30,0x34,0x44,0xA0,0x1C,0x93, /* 00000508 "`C04D..." */ + 0x68,0x0A,0x04,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x34,0x46, /* 00000510 "h..pC04F" */ + 0x60,0x70,0x0C,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xF7,0x61, /* 00000518 "`p.....a" */ + 0x7B,0x60,0x61,0x60,0x70,0x60,0x43,0x30, /* 00000520 "{`a`p`C0" */ + 0x34,0x46,0xA0,0x1C,0x93,0x68,0x0A,0x05, /* 00000528 "4F...h.." */ + 0x70,0x43,0x30,0x34,0x46,0x60,0x70,0x0C, /* 00000530 "pC04F`p." */ + 0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0x7F,0x61,0x7B,0x60,0x61, /* 00000538 "....a{`a" */ + 0x60,0x70,0x60,0x43,0x30,0x34,0x46,0x14, /* 00000540 "`p`C04F." */ + 0x4B,0x12,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x35,0x03,0xA0, /* 00000548 "K.C055.." */ + 0x2F,0x93,0x68,0x00,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x34, /* 00000550 "/.h.pC04" */ + 0x45,0x60,0x7B,0x60,0x0C,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF, /* 00000558 "E`{`...." */ + 0xEF,0x60,0x7D,0x60,0x0C,0x00,0x00,0x00, /* 00000560 ".`}`...." */ + 0x20,0x61,0xA0,0x0E,0x93,0x69,0x0B,0x70, /* 00000568 " a...i.p" */ + 0x03,0x7D,0x61,0x0C,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x10, /* 00000570 ".}a....." */ + 0x61,0x70,0x61,0x43,0x30,0x34,0x45,0xA0, /* 00000578 "apaC04E." */ + 0x4E,0x04,0x93,0x68,0x0A,0x03,0x70,0x43, /* 00000580 "N..h..pC" */ + 0x30,0x34,0x45,0x60,0x7B,0x60,0x0C,0xFF, /* 00000588 "04E`{`.." */ + 0xFF,0xFF,0xF9,0x60,0xA0,0x0E,0x93,0x69, /* 00000590 "...`...i" */ + 0x0B,0x78,0x03,0x7D,0x60,0x0C,0x00,0x00, /* 00000598 ".x.}`..." */ + 0x00,0x02,0x60,0xA1,0x10,0xA0,0x0E,0x93, /* 000005A0 "..`....." */ + 0x69,0x0B,0x78,0x02,0x7D,0x60,0x0C,0x00, /* 000005A8 "i.x.}`.." */ + 0x00,0x00,0x04,0x60,0x70,0x60,0x43,0x30, /* 000005B0 "...`p`C0" */ + 0x34,0x45,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x34,0x44,0x61, /* 000005B8 "4EpC04Da" */ + 0x7D,0x61,0x0C,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x80,0x62, /* 000005C0 "}a.....b" */ + 0x70,0x62,0x43,0x30,0x34,0x44,0xA0,0x43, /* 000005C8 "pbC04D.C" */ + 0x05,0x93,0x68,0x0A,0x04,0x70,0x43,0x30, /* 000005D0 "..h..pC0" */ + 0x34,0x46,0x60,0x7B,0x60,0x0C,0xFF,0xFF, /* 000005D8 "4F`{`..." */ + 0xFF,0xF8,0x60,0xA0,0x0E,0x93,0x69,0x0B, /* 000005E0 "..`...i." */ + 0xF8,0x02,0x7D,0x60,0x0C,0x00,0x00,0x00, /* 000005E8 "..}`...." */ + 0x01,0x60,0xA1,0x21,0xA0,0x0E,0x93,0x69, /* 000005F0 ".`.!...i" */ + 0x0B,0xE8,0x02,0x7D,0x60,0x0C,0x00,0x00, /* 000005F8 "...}`..." */ + 0x00,0x05,0x60,0xA1,0x10,0xA0,0x0E,0x93, /* 00000600 "..`....." */ + 0x69,0x0B,0xE8,0x03,0x7D,0x60,0x0C,0x00, /* 00000608 "i...}`.." */ + 0x00,0x00,0x07,0x60,0x7D,0x60,0x0C,0x00, /* 00000610 "...`}`.." */ + 0x00,0x00,0x08,0x61,0x70,0x61,0x43,0x30, /* 00000618 "...apaC0" */ + 0x34,0x46,0xA0,0x40,0x05,0x93,0x68,0x0A, /* 00000620 "4F.@..h." */ + 0x05,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x34,0x46,0x60,0x7B, /* 00000628 ".pC04F`{" */ + 0x60,0x0C,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0x8F,0x60,0xA0, /* 00000630 "`.....`." */ + 0x0E,0x93,0x69,0x0B,0xF8,0x02,0x7D,0x60, /* 00000638 "..i...}`" */ + 0x0C,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x10,0x60,0xA1,0x21, /* 00000640 ".....`.!" */ + 0xA0,0x0E,0x93,0x69,0x0B,0xE8,0x02,0x7D, /* 00000648 "...i...}" */ + 0x60,0x0C,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x50,0x60,0xA1, /* 00000650 "`....P`." */ + 0x10,0xA0,0x0E,0x93,0x69,0x0B,0xE8,0x03, /* 00000658 "....i..." */ + 0x7D,0x60,0x0C,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x70,0x60, /* 00000660 "}`....p`" */ + 0x7D,0x60,0x0C,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x80,0x43, /* 00000668 "}`.....C" */ + 0x30,0x34,0x46,0x14,0x4F,0x06,0x43,0x30, /* 00000670 "04F.O.C0" */ + 0x35,0x36,0x05,0x70,0x5E,0x5E,0x2F,0x03, /* 00000678 "56.p^^/." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x30,0x37,0x43,0x30,0x32,0x35, /* 00000680 "C007C025" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x35,0x37,0x66,0x43,0x30,0x35, /* 00000688 "C057fC05" */ + 0x34,0x68,0xA0,0x41,0x04,0x91,0x93,0x66, /* 00000690 "4h.A...f" */ + 0x0A,0x02,0x93,0x66,0x0A,0x04,0xA0,0x23, /* 00000698 "...f...#" */ + 0x92,0x93,0x6C,0x00,0x70,0x0A,0x02,0x62, /* 000006A0 "..l.p..b" */ + 0xA0,0x07,0x93,0x68,0x00,0x70,0x00,0x62, /* 000006A8 "...h.p.b" */ + 0x82,0x6C,0x61,0x76,0x61,0x5E,0x5E,0x2E, /* 000006B0 ".lava^^." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x30,0x37,0x43,0x30,0x34,0x37, /* 000006B8 "C007C047" */ + 0x61,0x62,0xA0,0x11,0x93,0x68,0x00,0xA0, /* 000006C0 "ab...h.." */ + 0x0C,0x92,0x93,0x69,0x00,0x43,0x30,0x35, /* 000006C8 "...i.C05" */ + 0x35,0x68,0x69,0x6A,0xA1,0x0E,0xA0,0x0C, /* 000006D0 "5hij...." */ + 0x92,0x93,0x69,0x00,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x35, /* 000006D8 "..i.C055" */ + 0x68,0x69,0x6A,0x10,0x48,0x04,0x5F,0x53, /* 000006E0 "hij.H._S" */ + 0x42,0x5F,0x5B,0x82,0x1F,0x43,0x30,0x35, /* 000006E8 "B_[..C05" */ + 0x38,0x08,0x5F,0x48,0x49,0x44,0x0D,0x50, /* 000006F0 "8._HID.P" */ + 0x4E,0x50,0x30,0x43,0x30,0x45,0x00,0x08, /* 000006F8 "NP0C0E.." */ + 0x5F,0x50,0x52,0x57,0x12,0x06,0x02,0x0A, /* 00000700 "_PRW...." */ + 0x0A,0x0A,0x04,0x5B,0x82,0x1F,0x43,0x30, /* 00000708 "...[..C0" */ + 0x35,0x39,0x08,0x5F,0x48,0x49,0x44,0x0D, /* 00000710 "59._HID." */ + 0x50,0x4E,0x50,0x30,0x43,0x30,0x43,0x00, /* 00000718 "PNP0C0C." */ + 0x08,0x5F,0x50,0x52,0x57,0x12,0x06,0x02, /* 00000720 "._PRW..." */ + 0x0A,0x0A,0x0A,0x04,0x10,0x45,0x84,0x2F, /* 00000728 ".....E./" */ + 0x03,0x5F,0x53,0x42,0x5F,0x43,0x30,0x30, /* 00000730 "._SB_C00" */ + 0x30,0x43,0x30,0x30,0x37,0x5B,0x82,0x43, /* 00000738 "0C007[.C" */ + 0x83,0x43,0x30,0x32,0x35,0x08,0x5F,0x48, /* 00000740 ".C025._H" */ + 0x49,0x44,0x0D,0x50,0x4E,0x50,0x30,0x41, /* 00000748 "ID.PNP0A" */ + 0x30,0x36,0x00,0x5B,0x80,0x43,0x30,0x35, /* 00000750 "06.[.C05" */ + 0x41,0x01,0x0A,0xE2,0x0A,0x02,0x5B,0x81, /* 00000758 "A.....[." */ + 0x10,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x41,0x01,0x43,0x30, /* 00000760 ".C05A.C0" */ + 0x35,0x42,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x43,0x08, /* 00000768 "5B.C05C." */ + 0x5B,0x86,0x4E,0x05,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x42, /* 00000770 "[.N.C05B" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x35,0x43,0x01,0x00,0x40,0x41, /* 00000778 "C05C..@A" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x35,0x44,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x35, /* 00000780 "C05D.C05" */ + 0x45,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x46,0x08,0x43, /* 00000788 "E.C05F.C" */ + 0x30,0x36,0x30,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x31, /* 00000790 "060.C061" */ + 0x08,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x32,0x08,0x43,0x30, /* 00000798 ".C062.C0" */ + 0x36,0x33,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x34,0x08, /* 000007A0 "63.C064." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x36,0x35,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x36, /* 000007A8 "C065.C06" */ + 0x36,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x37,0x08,0x43, /* 000007B0 "6.C067.C" */ + 0x30,0x36,0x38,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x39, /* 000007B8 "068.C069" */ + 0x08,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x41,0x08,0x43,0x30, /* 000007C0 ".C06A.C0" */ + 0x36,0x42,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x43,0x08, /* 000007C8 "6B.C06C." */ + 0x5B,0x80,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x44,0x01,0x0A, /* 000007D0 "[.C06D.." */ + 0xFB,0x01,0x5B,0x81,0x0B,0x43,0x30,0x36, /* 000007D8 "..[..C06" */ + 0x44,0x01,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x45,0x08,0x5B, /* 000007E0 "D.C06E.[" */ + 0x80,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x46,0x01,0x0A,0xF9, /* 000007E8 ".C06F..." */ + 0x01,0x5B,0x81,0x0B,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x46, /* 000007F0 ".[..C06F" */ + 0x01,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x30,0x08,0x5B,0x01, /* 000007F8 ".C070.[." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x37,0x31,0x00,0x5B,0x01,0x43, /* 00000800 "C071.[.C" */ + 0x30,0x37,0x32,0x00,0x5B,0x01,0x43,0x30, /* 00000808 "072.[.C0" */ + 0x37,0x33,0x00,0x5B,0x01,0x43,0x30,0x37, /* 00000810 "73.[.C07" */ + 0x34,0x00,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x35,0x00, /* 00000818 "4..C075." */ + 0x14,0x47,0x04,0x5F,0x49,0x4E,0x49,0x00, /* 00000820 ".G._INI." */ + 0x5B,0x23,0x5F,0x47,0x4C,0x5F,0xFF,0xFF, /* 00000828 "[#_GL_.." */ + 0x70,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x35,0x43,0x30,0x32, /* 00000830 "pC065C02" */ + 0x42,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x37,0x43,0x30, /* 00000838 "BpC067C0" */ + 0x32,0x43,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x38,0x43, /* 00000840 "2CpC068C" */ + 0x30,0x32,0x44,0x5B,0x27,0x5F,0x47,0x4C, /* 00000848 "02D['_GL" */ + 0x5F,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x36,0x0A,0x0A, /* 00000850 "_pC076.." */ + 0x00,0x00,0x00,0x60,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x37, /* 00000858 "...`pC07" */ + 0x36,0x0A,0x0C,0x0A,0x48,0x00,0x00,0x60, /* 00000860 "6...H..`" */ + 0x14,0x0D,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x37,0x00,0x70, /* 00000868 "..C077.p" */ + 0x0A,0x02,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x45,0x14,0x0C, /* 00000870 "..C06E.." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x37,0x38,0x00,0x70,0x01,0x43, /* 00000878 "C078.p.C" */ + 0x30,0x37,0x30,0x14,0x46,0x04,0x43,0x30, /* 00000880 "070.F.C0" */ + 0x37,0x39,0x02,0x5B,0x23,0x43,0x30,0x37, /* 00000888 "79.[#C07" */ + 0x31,0xFF,0xFF,0x5B,0x23,0x5F,0x47,0x4C, /* 00000890 "1..[#_GL" */ + 0x5F,0xFF,0xFF,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x37,0x70, /* 00000898 "_..C077p" */ + 0x0A,0x07,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x42,0x70,0x68, /* 000008A0 "..C05Bph" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x35,0x43,0x70,0x69,0x43,0x30, /* 000008A8 "C05CpiC0" */ + 0x35,0x42,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x43,0x60, /* 000008B0 "5BpC05C`" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x37,0x38,0x5B,0x27,0x5F,0x47, /* 000008B8 "C078['_G" */ + 0x4C,0x5F,0x5B,0x27,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x31, /* 000008C0 "L_['C071" */ + 0xA4,0x60,0x14,0x49,0x04,0x43,0x30,0x37, /* 000008C8 ".`.I.C07" */ + 0x41,0x03,0x5B,0x23,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x31, /* 000008D0 "A.[#C071" */ + 0xFF,0xFF,0x5B,0x23,0x5F,0x47,0x4C,0x5F, /* 000008D8 "..[#_GL_" */ + 0xFF,0xFF,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x37,0x70,0x0A, /* 000008E0 "..C077p." */ + 0x07,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x42,0x70,0x68,0x43, /* 000008E8 ".C05BphC" */ + 0x30,0x35,0x43,0x70,0x69,0x43,0x30,0x35, /* 000008F0 "05CpiC05" */ + 0x42,0x70,0x6A,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x43,0x43, /* 000008F8 "BpjC05CC" */ + 0x30,0x37,0x38,0x5B,0x27,0x5F,0x47,0x4C, /* 00000900 "078['_GL" */ + 0x5F,0x5B,0x27,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x31,0xA4, /* 00000908 "_['C071." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x35,0x43,0x14,0x0D,0x43,0x30, /* 00000910 "C05C..C0" */ + 0x37,0x42,0x02,0xA4,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x39, /* 00000918 "7B..C079" */ + 0x68,0x69,0x14,0x0E,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x43, /* 00000920 "hi..C07C" */ + 0x03,0xA4,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x41,0x68,0x69, /* 00000928 "..C07Ahi" */ + 0x6A,0x14,0x1D,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x44,0x04, /* 00000930 "j..C07D." */ + 0x70,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x39,0x68,0x69,0x60, /* 00000938 "pC079hi`" */ + 0x7B,0x6A,0x60,0x61,0x7D,0x6B,0x61,0x62, /* 00000940 "{j`a}kab" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x37,0x41,0x68,0x69,0x62,0x14, /* 00000948 "C07Ahib." */ + 0x35,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x37,0x00,0x5B,0x23, /* 00000950 "5C057.[#" */ + 0x5F,0x47,0x4C,0x5F,0xFF,0xFF,0x70,0x43, /* 00000958 "_GL_..pC" */ + 0x30,0x36,0x37,0x60,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x36, /* 00000960 "067`pC06" */ + 0x38,0x62,0x5B,0x27,0x5F,0x47,0x4C,0x5F, /* 00000968 "8b['_GL_" */ + 0x70,0x60,0x5B,0x31,0x70,0x0A,0x08,0x61, /* 00000970 "p`[1p..a" */ + 0xA0,0x0A,0x7B,0x60,0x01,0x60,0x7A,0x62, /* 00000978 "..{`.`zb" */ + 0x0A,0x04,0x61,0xA4,0x61,0x14,0x3F,0x43, /* 00000980 "..a.a.?C" */ + 0x30,0x37,0x45,0x01,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x43, /* 00000988 "07E.C07C" */ + 0x68,0x0A,0x61,0x00,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x43, /* 00000990 "h.a.C07C" */ + 0x68,0x0A,0x60,0x00,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x43, /* 00000998 "h.`.C07C" */ + 0x68,0x0A,0x63,0x00,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x43, /* 000009A0 "h.c.C07C" */ + 0x68,0x0A,0x62,0x00,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x43, /* 000009A8 "h.b.C07C" */ + 0x68,0x0A,0x70,0x00,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x43, /* 000009B0 "h.p.C07C" */ + 0x68,0x0A,0x74,0x0A,0x04,0x43,0x30,0x37, /* 000009B8 "h.t..C07" */ + 0x43,0x68,0x0A,0x30,0x00,0x14,0x4A,0x05, /* 000009C0 "Ch.0..J." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x37,0x46,0x05,0xA0,0x07,0x93, /* 000009C8 "C07F...." */ + 0x6B,0x00,0x70,0x00,0x61,0xA1,0x06,0x82, /* 000009D0 "k.p.a..." */ + 0x6B,0x61,0x76,0x61,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x38, /* 000009D8 "kavapC08" */ + 0x30,0x6C,0x62,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x43,0x68, /* 000009E0 "0lbC07Ch" */ + 0x0A,0x61,0x69,0x7A,0x69,0x0A,0x08,0x60, /* 000009E8 ".aizi..`" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x37,0x43,0x68,0x0A,0x60,0x60, /* 000009F0 "C07Ch.``" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x37,0x43,0x68,0x0A,0x63,0x6A, /* 000009F8 "C07Ch.cj" */ + 0x7A,0x6A,0x0A,0x08,0x60,0x43,0x30,0x37, /* 00000A00 "zj..`C07" */ + 0x43,0x68,0x0A,0x62,0x60,0x43,0x30,0x37, /* 00000A08 "Ch.b`C07" */ + 0x44,0x68,0x0A,0x70,0x0A,0xF0,0x61,0x43, /* 00000A10 "Dh.p..aC" */ + 0x30,0x37,0x44,0x68,0x0A,0x74,0x00,0x62, /* 00000A18 "07Dh.t.b" */ + 0x14,0x31,0x43,0x30,0x38,0x30,0x01,0x70, /* 00000A20 ".1C080.p" */ + 0x0A,0x04,0x60,0xA0,0x24,0x92,0x93,0x68, /* 00000A28 "..`.$..h" */ + 0x00,0x82,0x68,0x60,0x76,0x60,0xA0,0x08, /* 00000A30 "..h`v`.." */ + 0x93,0x60,0x0A,0x02,0x70,0x00,0x60,0xA1, /* 00000A38 ".`..p.`." */ + 0x10,0xA0,0x08,0x93,0x60,0x0A,0x03,0x70, /* 00000A40 "....`..p" */ + 0x01,0x60,0xA1,0x05,0x70,0x0A,0x03,0x60, /* 00000A48 ".`..p..`" */ + 0xA4,0x60,0x14,0x39,0x43,0x30,0x38,0x31, /* 00000A50 ".`.9C081" */ + 0x01,0x70,0x00,0x61,0xA0,0x29,0x92,0x93, /* 00000A58 ".p.a.).." */ + 0x68,0x0A,0x04,0xA0,0x08,0x93,0x68,0x00, /* 00000A60 "h.....h." */ + 0x70,0x0A,0x02,0x60,0xA1,0x15,0xA0,0x08, /* 00000A68 "p..`...." */ + 0x93,0x68,0x01,0x70,0x0A,0x03,0x60,0xA1, /* 00000A70 ".h.p..`." */ + 0x0A,0xA0,0x08,0x93,0x68,0x0A,0x03,0x70, /* 00000A78 "....h..p" */ + 0x00,0x60,0x79,0x01,0x60,0x61,0x70,0x61, /* 00000A80 ".`y.`apa" */ + 0x5B,0x31,0xA4,0x61,0x14,0x49,0x11,0x43, /* 00000A88 "[1.a.I.C" */ + 0x30,0x32,0x36,0x05,0x70,0x11,0x03,0x0A, /* 00000A90 "026.p..." */ + 0x04,0x66,0x8C,0x66,0x00,0x43,0x30,0x38, /* 00000A98 ".f.f.C08" */ + 0x32,0x8C,0x66,0x01,0x43,0x30,0x38,0x33, /* 00000AA0 "2.f.C083" */ + 0x8C,0x66,0x0A,0x02,0x43,0x30,0x38,0x34, /* 00000AA8 ".f..C084" */ + 0x8C,0x66,0x0A,0x03,0x43,0x30,0x38,0x35, /* 00000AB0 ".f..C085" */ + 0x70,0x11,0x03,0x0A,0x05,0x67,0x8C,0x67, /* 00000AB8 "p....g.g" */ + 0x00,0x43,0x30,0x38,0x36,0x8C,0x67,0x01, /* 00000AC0 ".C086.g." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x38,0x37,0x8C,0x67,0x0A,0x02, /* 00000AC8 "C087.g.." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x38,0x38,0x8C,0x67,0x0A,0x03, /* 00000AD0 "C088.g.." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x38,0x39,0x8C,0x67,0x0A,0x04, /* 00000AD8 "C089.g.." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x38,0x41,0x5B,0x23,0x43,0x30, /* 00000AE0 "C08A[#C0" */ + 0x37,0x32,0xFF,0xFF,0x5B,0x23,0x5F,0x47, /* 00000AE8 "72..[#_G" */ + 0x4C,0x5F,0xFF,0xFF,0xA2,0x0C,0x92,0x93, /* 00000AF0 "L_......" */ + 0x00,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x44,0x5B,0x21,0x0A, /* 00000AF8 ".C05D[!." */ + 0x64,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x46,0x43,0x30, /* 00000B00 "dpC05FC0" */ + 0x38,0x32,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x30,0x43, /* 00000B08 "82pC060C" */ + 0x30,0x38,0x33,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x31, /* 00000B10 "083pC061" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x38,0x34,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x36, /* 00000B18 "C084pC06" */ + 0x32,0x43,0x30,0x38,0x35,0x70,0x69,0x43, /* 00000B20 "2C085piC" */ + 0x30,0x35,0x46,0x70,0x6A,0x43,0x30,0x36, /* 00000B28 "05FpjC06" */ + 0x30,0x70,0x6B,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x31,0x70, /* 00000B30 "0pkC061p" */ + 0x6C,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x32,0x70,0x68,0x43, /* 00000B38 "lC062phC" */ + 0x30,0x35,0x44,0xA2,0x0C,0x92,0x93,0x00, /* 00000B40 "05D....." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x35,0x44,0x5B,0x21,0x0A,0x64, /* 00000B48 "C05D[!.d" */ + 0x70,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x46,0x43,0x30,0x38, /* 00000B50 "pC05FC08" */ + 0x37,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x30,0x43,0x30, /* 00000B58 "7pC060C0" */ + 0x38,0x38,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x31,0x43, /* 00000B60 "88pC061C" */ + 0x30,0x38,0x39,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x32, /* 00000B68 "089pC062" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x38,0x41,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x38, /* 00000B70 "C08ApC08" */ + 0x32,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x46,0x70,0x43,0x30, /* 00000B78 "2C05FpC0" */ + 0x38,0x33,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x30,0x70,0x43, /* 00000B80 "83C060pC" */ + 0x30,0x38,0x34,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x31,0x70, /* 00000B88 "084C061p" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x38,0x35,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x32, /* 00000B90 "C085C062" */ + 0x5B,0x27,0x5F,0x47,0x4C,0x5F,0x5B,0x27, /* 00000B98 "['_GL_['" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x37,0x32,0xA4,0x67,0x14,0x4F, /* 00000BA0 "C072.g.O" */ + 0x0C,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x36,0x04,0x70,0x11, /* 00000BA8 ".C076.p." */ + 0x03,0x0A,0x04,0x67,0x8C,0x67,0x00,0x43, /* 00000BB0 "...g.g.C" */ + 0x30,0x38,0x42,0x8C,0x67,0x01,0x43,0x30, /* 00000BB8 "08B.g.C0" */ + 0x38,0x43,0x8C,0x67,0x0A,0x02,0x43,0x30, /* 00000BC0 "8C.g..C0" */ + 0x38,0x44,0x8C,0x67,0x0A,0x03,0x43,0x30, /* 00000BC8 "8D.g..C0" */ + 0x38,0x45,0x5B,0x23,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x33, /* 00000BD0 "8E[#C073" */ + 0xFF,0xFF,0x5B,0x23,0x5F,0x47,0x4C,0x5F, /* 00000BD8 "..[#_GL_" */ + 0xFF,0xFF,0x43,0x30,0x32,0x30,0x70,0x01, /* 00000BE0 "..C020p." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x36,0x39,0xA2,0x0C,0x92,0x93, /* 00000BE8 "C069...." */ + 0x00,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x39,0x5B,0x21,0x0A, /* 00000BF0 ".C069[!." */ + 0x64,0x70,0x6B,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x43,0x70, /* 00000BF8 "dpkC06Cp" */ + 0x6A,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x42,0x70,0x69,0x43, /* 00000C00 "jC06BpiC" */ + 0x30,0x36,0x41,0x70,0x68,0x43,0x30,0x36, /* 00000C08 "06AphC06" */ + 0x39,0xA2,0x0C,0x92,0x93,0x00,0x43,0x30, /* 00000C10 "9.....C0" */ + 0x36,0x39,0x5B,0x21,0x0A,0x64,0x70,0x43, /* 00000C18 "69[!.dpC" */ + 0x30,0x36,0x39,0x43,0x30,0x38,0x42,0x70, /* 00000C20 "069C08Bp" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x36,0x41,0x43,0x30,0x38,0x43, /* 00000C28 "C06AC08C" */ + 0x70,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x42,0x43,0x30,0x38, /* 00000C30 "pC06BC08" */ + 0x44,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x43,0x43,0x30, /* 00000C38 "DpC06CC0" */ + 0x38,0x45,0xA0,0x21,0x92,0x93,0x68,0x0A, /* 00000C40 "8E.!..h." */ + 0x17,0xA0,0x1A,0x92,0x93,0x68,0x0A,0x1A, /* 00000C48 ".....h.." */ + 0x70,0x0A,0x02,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x39,0xA2, /* 00000C50 "p..C069." */ + 0x0C,0x92,0x93,0x00,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x39, /* 00000C58 "....C069" */ + 0x5B,0x21,0x0A,0x64,0x5B,0x27,0x5F,0x47, /* 00000C60 "[!.d['_G" */ + 0x4C,0x5F,0x43,0x30,0x32,0x31,0x5B,0x27, /* 00000C68 "L_C021['" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x37,0x33,0xA4,0x67,0x14,0x40, /* 00000C70 "C073.g.@" */ + 0x11,0x43,0x30,0x38,0x46,0x02,0x70,0x11, /* 00000C78 ".C08F.p." */ + 0x03,0x0A,0x04,0x66,0x8C,0x66,0x00,0x43, /* 00000C80 "...f.f.C" */ + 0x30,0x38,0x32,0x8C,0x66,0x01,0x43,0x30, /* 00000C88 "082.f.C0" */ + 0x38,0x33,0x8C,0x66,0x0A,0x02,0x43,0x30, /* 00000C90 "83.f..C0" */ + 0x38,0x34,0x8C,0x66,0x0A,0x03,0x43,0x30, /* 00000C98 "84.f..C0" */ + 0x38,0x35,0x5B,0x23,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x32, /* 00000CA0 "85[#C072" */ + 0xFF,0xFF,0x5B,0x23,0x5F,0x47,0x4C,0x5F, /* 00000CA8 "..[#_GL_" */ + 0xFF,0xFF,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x30,0x12, /* 00000CB0 "...C090." */ + 0x02,0x10,0x70,0x01,0x63,0x70,0x0B,0xC4, /* 00000CB8 "..p.cp.." */ + 0x09,0x60,0xA2,0x12,0x90,0x92,0x93,0x00, /* 00000CC0 ".`......" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x35,0x44,0x94,0x60,0x00,0x5B, /* 00000CC8 "C05D.`.[" */ + 0x21,0x0A,0x64,0x76,0x60,0x70,0x43,0x30, /* 00000CD0 "!.dv`pC0" */ + 0x35,0x46,0x43,0x30,0x38,0x32,0x70,0x43, /* 00000CD8 "5FC082pC" */ + 0x30,0x36,0x30,0x43,0x30,0x38,0x33,0x70, /* 00000CE0 "060C083p" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x36,0x31,0x43,0x30,0x38,0x34, /* 00000CE8 "C061C084" */ + 0x70,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x32,0x43,0x30,0x38, /* 00000CF0 "pC062C08" */ + 0x35,0x70,0x69,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x30,0x70, /* 00000CF8 "5piC060p" */ + 0x68,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x46,0x70,0x00,0x60, /* 00000D00 "hC05Fp.`" */ + 0xA2,0x49,0x04,0x90,0x93,0x60,0x00,0x92, /* 00000D08 ".I...`.." */ + 0x94,0x63,0x69,0x70,0x0A,0x07,0x43,0x30, /* 00000D10 ".cip..C0" */ + 0x35,0x44,0x70,0x0B,0xC4,0x09,0x60,0xA2, /* 00000D18 "5Dp...`." */ + 0x12,0x90,0x92,0x93,0x00,0x43,0x30,0x35, /* 00000D20 ".....C05" */ + 0x44,0x94,0x60,0x00,0x5B,0x21,0x0A,0x64, /* 00000D28 "D.`.[!.d" */ + 0x76,0x60,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x32,0x60, /* 00000D30 "v`pC062`" */ + 0x70,0x60,0x88,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x30,0x00, /* 00000D38 "p`.C090." */ + 0x00,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x31,0x62,0x70, /* 00000D40 ".pC061bp" */ + 0x62,0x88,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x30,0x63,0x00, /* 00000D48 "b.C090c." */ + 0x75,0x63,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x38,0x32,0x43, /* 00000D50 "ucpC082C" */ + 0x30,0x35,0x46,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x38,0x33, /* 00000D58 "05FpC083" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x36,0x30,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x38, /* 00000D60 "C060pC08" */ + 0x34,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x31,0x70,0x43,0x30, /* 00000D68 "4C061pC0" */ + 0x38,0x35,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x32,0x5B,0x27, /* 00000D70 "85C062['" */ + 0x5F,0x47,0x4C,0x5F,0x5B,0x27,0x43,0x30, /* 00000D78 "_GL_['C0" */ + 0x37,0x32,0xA4,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x30,0x14, /* 00000D80 "72.C090." */ + 0x4A,0x0F,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x31,0x03,0x70, /* 00000D88 "J.C091.p" */ + 0x11,0x03,0x0A,0x04,0x66,0x8C,0x66,0x00, /* 00000D90 "....f.f." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x38,0x32,0x8C,0x66,0x01,0x43, /* 00000D98 "C082.f.C" */ + 0x30,0x38,0x33,0x8C,0x66,0x0A,0x02,0x43, /* 00000DA0 "083.f..C" */ + 0x30,0x38,0x34,0x8C,0x66,0x0A,0x03,0x43, /* 00000DA8 "084.f..C" */ + 0x30,0x38,0x35,0x70,0x00,0x61,0x5B,0x23, /* 00000DB0 "085p.a[#" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x37,0x32,0xFF,0xFF,0x5B,0x23, /* 00000DB8 "C072..[#" */ + 0x5F,0x47,0x4C,0x5F,0xFF,0xFF,0x70,0x0B, /* 00000DC0 "_GL_..p." */ + 0xC4,0x09,0x60,0xA2,0x12,0x90,0x92,0x93, /* 00000DC8 "..`....." */ + 0x00,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x44,0x94,0x60,0x00, /* 00000DD0 ".C05D.`." */ + 0x5B,0x21,0x0A,0x64,0x76,0x60,0x70,0x43, /* 00000DD8 "[!.dv`pC" */ + 0x30,0x35,0x46,0x43,0x30,0x38,0x32,0x70, /* 00000DE0 "05FC082p" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x36,0x30,0x43,0x30,0x38,0x33, /* 00000DE8 "C060C083" */ + 0x70,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x31,0x43,0x30,0x38, /* 00000DF0 "pC061C08" */ + 0x34,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x32,0x43,0x30, /* 00000DF8 "4pC062C0" */ + 0x38,0x35,0x70,0x69,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x30, /* 00000E00 "85piC060" */ + 0x70,0x68,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x46,0x70,0x00, /* 00000E08 "phC05Fp." */ + 0x60,0xA2,0x3E,0x90,0x93,0x60,0x00,0x94, /* 00000E10 "`.>..`.." */ + 0x69,0x00,0x70,0x83,0x88,0x6A,0x61,0x00, /* 00000E18 "i.p..ja." */ + 0x62,0x70,0x62,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x31,0x70, /* 00000E20 "bpbC061p" */ + 0x0A,0x06,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x44,0x70,0x0B, /* 00000E28 "..C05Dp." */ + 0xC4,0x09,0x60,0xA2,0x12,0x90,0x92,0x93, /* 00000E30 "..`....." */ + 0x00,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x44,0x94,0x60,0x00, /* 00000E38 ".C05D.`." */ + 0x5B,0x21,0x0A,0x64,0x76,0x60,0x70,0x43, /* 00000E40 "[!.dv`pC" */ + 0x30,0x36,0x32,0x60,0x76,0x69,0x75,0x61, /* 00000E48 "062`viua" */ + 0x70,0x43,0x30,0x38,0x32,0x43,0x30,0x35, /* 00000E50 "pC082C05" */ + 0x46,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x38,0x33,0x43,0x30, /* 00000E58 "FpC083C0" */ + 0x36,0x30,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x38,0x34,0x43, /* 00000E60 "60pC084C" */ + 0x30,0x36,0x31,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x38,0x35, /* 00000E68 "061pC085" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x36,0x32,0x5B,0x27,0x5F,0x47, /* 00000E70 "C062['_G" */ + 0x4C,0x5F,0x5B,0x27,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x32, /* 00000E78 "L_['C072" */ + 0xA4,0x60,0x14,0x44,0x04,0x43,0x30,0x39, /* 00000E80 ".`.D.C09" */ + 0x32,0x01,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x32,0x36,0x0A, /* 00000E88 "2.pC026." */ + 0x1C,0x01,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x60,0x70,0x83, /* 00000E90 ".....`p." */ + 0x88,0x60,0x0A,0x04,0x00,0x61,0x70,0x68, /* 00000E98 ".`...aph" */ + 0x62,0xA2,0x23,0x90,0x92,0x93,0x00,0x61, /* 00000EA0 "b.#....a" */ + 0x94,0x62,0x00,0x5B,0x22,0x0A,0x5A,0x70, /* 00000EA8 ".b.[".Zp" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x32,0x36,0x0A,0x1C,0x01,0x00, /* 00000EB0 "C026...." */ + 0x00,0x00,0x60,0x70,0x83,0x88,0x60,0x0A, /* 00000EB8 "..`p..`." */ + 0x04,0x00,0x61,0x76,0x62,0xA4,0x61,0x14, /* 00000EC0 "..avb.a." */ + 0x1C,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x33,0x00,0x70,0x43, /* 00000EC8 ".C093.pC" */ + 0x30,0x32,0x36,0x0A,0x1C,0x00,0x00,0x00, /* 00000ED0 "026....." */ + 0x00,0x60,0x70,0x83,0x88,0x60,0x0A,0x04, /* 00000ED8 ".`p..`.." */ + 0x00,0x61,0xA4,0x61,0x14,0x23,0x43,0x30, /* 00000EE0 ".a.a.#C0" */ + 0x39,0x34,0x01,0x5B,0x23,0x43,0x30,0x37, /* 00000EE8 "94.[#C07" */ + 0x34,0xFF,0xFF,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x35, /* 00000EF0 "4..pC075" */ + 0x60,0x5B,0x27,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x34,0x7A, /* 00000EF8 "`['C074z" */ + 0x60,0x68,0x61,0xA4,0x7B,0x01,0x61,0x61, /* 00000F00 "`ha.{.aa" */ + 0x14,0x33,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x35,0x01,0x79, /* 00000F08 ".3C095.y" */ + 0x01,0x68,0x60,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x44,0x68, /* 00000F10 ".h`C07Dh" */ + 0x0A,0x22,0x80,0x60,0x00,0x60,0x5B,0x23, /* 00000F18 ".".`.`[#" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x37,0x34,0xFF,0xFF,0x70,0x43, /* 00000F20 "C074..pC" */ + 0x30,0x37,0x35,0x61,0x7D,0x61,0x60,0x61, /* 00000F28 "075a}a`a" */ + 0x70,0x61,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x35,0x5B,0x27, /* 00000F30 "paC075['" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x37,0x34,0x14,0x35,0x43,0x30, /* 00000F38 "C074.5C0" */ + 0x39,0x36,0x01,0x79,0x01,0x68,0x60,0x43, /* 00000F40 "96.y.h`C" */ + 0x30,0x37,0x44,0x68,0x0A,0x22,0x80,0x60, /* 00000F48 "07Dh.".`" */ + 0x00,0x00,0x5B,0x23,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x34, /* 00000F50 "..[#C074" */ + 0xFF,0xFF,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x37,0x35,0x61, /* 00000F58 "..pC075a" */ + 0x7B,0x61,0x80,0x60,0x00,0x61,0x70,0x61, /* 00000F60 "{a.`.apa" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x37,0x35,0x5B,0x27,0x43,0x30, /* 00000F68 "C075['C0" */ + 0x37,0x34,0x5B,0x83,0x10,0x2E,0x5F,0x50, /* 00000F70 "74[..._P" */ + 0x52,0x5F,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x37,0x01,0x10, /* 00000F78 "R_C097.." */ + 0x0F,0x00,0x00,0x06,0x10,0x45,0x0B,0x5F, /* 00000F80 ".....E._" */ + 0x53,0x42,0x5F,0x5B,0x82,0x3C,0x43,0x30, /* 00000F88 "SB_[.....f.." */ + 0x93,0x68,0x01,0x70,0x0D,0x44,0x6F,0x63, /* 00002948 ".h.p.Doc" */ + 0x6B,0x69,0x6E,0x67,0x20,0x50,0x45,0x42, /* 00002950 "king PEB" */ + 0x20,0x6E,0x6F,0x77,0x00,0x5B,0x31,0xA1, /* 00002958 " now.[1." */ + 0x1D,0x70,0x0D,0x45,0x6A,0x65,0x63,0x74, /* 00002960 ".p.Eject" */ + 0x69,0x6E,0x67,0x20,0x6F,0x75,0x74,0x20, /* 00002968 "ing out " */ + 0x6F,0x66,0x20,0x50,0x45,0x42,0x20,0x6E, /* 00002970 "of PEB n" */ + 0x6F,0x77,0x00,0x5B,0x31,0xA4,0x01,0x14, /* 00002978 "ow.[1..." */ + 0x24,0x5F,0x53,0x54,0x41,0x00,0x70,0x5E, /* 00002980 "$_STA.p^" */ + 0x5E,0x2F,0x03,0x43,0x30,0x30,0x37,0x43, /* 00002988 "^/.C007C" */ + 0x30,0x32,0x35,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x37,0x60, /* 00002990 "025C057`" */ + 0xA0,0x07,0x93,0x60,0x00,0xA4,0x0A,0x0F, /* 00002998 "...`...." */ + 0xA1,0x03,0xA4,0x00,0x10,0x4A,0x16,0x2E, /* 000029A0 ".....J.." */ + 0x5F,0x53,0x42,0x5F,0x43,0x30,0x30,0x30, /* 000029A8 "_SB_C000" */ + 0x5B,0x82,0x4D,0x15,0x43,0x30,0x45,0x41, /* 000029B0 "[.M.C0EA" */ + 0x08,0x5F,0x41,0x44,0x52,0x0C,0x01,0x00, /* 000029B8 "._ADR..." */ + 0x07,0x00,0x5B,0x82,0x25,0x43,0x30,0x45, /* 000029C0 "..[.%C0E" */ + 0x42,0x08,0x5F,0x41,0x44,0x52,0x00,0x5B, /* 000029C8 "B._ADR.[" */ + 0x82,0x0B,0x43,0x30,0x45,0x33,0x08,0x5F, /* 000029D0 "..C0E3._" */ + 0x41,0x44,0x52,0x00,0x5B,0x82,0x0B,0x43, /* 000029D8 "ADR.[..C" */ + 0x30,0x45,0x43,0x08,0x5F,0x41,0x44,0x52, /* 000029E0 "0EC._ADR" */ + 0x01,0x5B,0x82,0x44,0x12,0x43,0x30,0x45, /* 000029E8 ".[.D.C0E" */ + 0x44,0x08,0x5F,0x41,0x44,0x52,0x01,0x08, /* 000029F0 "D._ADR.." */ + 0x5F,0x52,0x4D,0x56,0x01,0x14,0x25,0x5F, /* 000029F8 "_RMV..%_" */ + 0x53,0x54,0x41,0x00,0x70,0x5E,0x5E,0x5E, /* 00002A00 "STA.p^^^" */ + 0x2E,0x43,0x30,0x30,0x37,0x43,0x30,0x33, /* 00002A08 ".C007C03" */ + 0x39,0x60,0x7B,0x60,0x0A,0x10,0x60,0xA0, /* 00002A10 "9`{`..`." */ + 0x07,0x93,0x60,0x00,0xA4,0x0A,0x0F,0xA1, /* 00002A18 "..`....." */ + 0x03,0xA4,0x00,0x5B,0x82,0x4B,0x07,0x43, /* 00002A20 "...[.K.C" */ + 0x30,0x45,0x33,0x08,0x5F,0x41,0x44,0x52, /* 00002A28 "0E3._ADR" */ + 0x00,0x08,0x5F,0x52,0x4D,0x56,0x01,0x14, /* 00002A30 ".._RMV.." */ + 0x48,0x06,0x5F,0x53,0x54,0x41,0x00,0x5B, /* 00002A38 "H._STA.[" */ + 0x23,0x5F,0x47,0x4C,0x5F,0xFF,0xFF,0x70, /* 00002A40 "#_GL_..p" */ + 0x5E,0x5E,0x5E,0x5E,0x2F,0x03,0x43,0x30, /* 00002A48 "^^^^/.C0" */ + 0x30,0x37,0x43,0x30,0x32,0x35,0x43,0x30, /* 00002A50 "07C025C0" */ + 0x36,0x37,0x62,0x5B,0x27,0x5F,0x47,0x4C, /* 00002A58 "67b['_GL" */ + 0x5F,0xA0,0x2B,0x93,0x43,0x30,0x32,0x34, /* 00002A60 "_.+.C024" */ + 0x00,0xA0,0x1F,0x7B,0x62,0x0A,0x04,0x00, /* 00002A68 "...{b..." */ + 0x70,0x43,0x30,0x32,0x33,0x0A,0x02,0x61, /* 00002A70 "pC023..a" */ + 0x7B,0x61,0x0A,0x60,0x61,0xA0,0x07,0x94, /* 00002A78 "{a.`a..." */ + 0x61,0x00,0xA4,0x0A,0x0F,0xA1,0x03,0xA4, /* 00002A80 "a......." */ + 0x00,0xA1,0x03,0xA4,0x00,0xA1,0x12,0x7B, /* 00002A88 ".......{" */ + 0x62,0x0A,0x10,0x62,0xA0,0x06,0x93,0x62, /* 00002A90 "b..b...b" */ + 0x00,0xA4,0x00,0xA1,0x04,0xA4,0x0A,0x0F, /* 00002A98 "........" */ + 0x5B,0x82,0x4D,0x06,0x43,0x30,0x45,0x43, /* 00002AA0 "[.M.C0EC" */ + 0x08,0x5F,0x41,0x44,0x52,0x01,0x08,0x5F, /* 00002AA8 "._ADR.._" */ + 0x52,0x4D,0x56,0x01,0x14,0x4A,0x05,0x5F, /* 00002AB0 "RMV..J._" */ + 0x53,0x54,0x41,0x00,0xA0,0x09,0x93,0x43, /* 00002AB8 "STA....C" */ + 0x30,0x32,0x34,0x00,0xA4,0x00,0xA1,0x48, /* 00002AC0 "024....H" */ + 0x04,0x5B,0x23,0x5F,0x47,0x4C,0x5F,0xFF, /* 00002AC8 ".[#_GL_." */ + 0xFF,0x70,0x5E,0x5E,0x5E,0x5E,0x2F,0x03, /* 00002AD0 ".p^^^^/." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x30,0x37,0x43,0x30,0x32,0x35, /* 00002AD8 "C007C025" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x36,0x37,0x62,0x5B,0x27,0x5F, /* 00002AE0 "C067b['_" */ + 0x47,0x4C,0x5F,0xA0,0x1F,0x7B,0x62,0x0A, /* 00002AE8 "GL_..{b." */ + 0x14,0x00,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x32,0x33,0x0A, /* 00002AF0 "..pC023." */ + 0x02,0x61,0x7B,0x61,0x0A,0x60,0x61,0xA0, /* 00002AF8 ".a{a.`a." */ + 0x07,0x94,0x61,0x00,0xA4,0x0A,0x0F,0xA1, /* 00002B00 "..a....." */ + 0x03,0xA4,0x00,0xA1,0x03,0xA4,0x00,0x5B, /* 00002B08 ".......[" */ + 0x80,0x43,0x30,0x45,0x45,0x01,0x0B,0xD0, /* 00002B10 ".C0EE..." */ + 0x04,0x0A,0x02,0x5B,0x81,0x10,0x43,0x30, /* 00002B18 "...[..C0" */ + 0x45,0x45,0x01,0x43,0x30,0x45,0x46,0x08, /* 00002B20 "EE.C0EF." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x46,0x30,0x08,0x5B,0x82,0x4B, /* 00002B28 "C0F0.[.K" */ + 0x12,0x2E,0x5F,0x53,0x42,0x5F,0x43,0x30, /* 00002B30 ".._SB_C0" */ + 0x46,0x31,0x08,0x5F,0x48,0x49,0x44,0x0D, /* 00002B38 "F1._HID." */ + 0x50,0x4E,0x50,0x30,0x43,0x30,0x46,0x00, /* 00002B40 "PNP0C0F." */ + 0x08,0x5F,0x55,0x49,0x44,0x01,0x08,0x5F, /* 00002B48 "._UID.._" */ + 0x50,0x52,0x53,0x11,0x09,0x0A,0x06,0x23, /* 00002B50 "PRS....#" */ + 0x00,0x08,0x18,0x79,0x00,0x14,0x2E,0x5F, /* 00002B58 "...y..._" */ + 0x53,0x54,0x41,0x00,0x70,0x5E,0x5E,0x2F, /* 00002B60 "STA.p^^/" */ + 0x03,0x43,0x30,0x30,0x30,0x43,0x30,0x30, /* 00002B68 ".C000C00" */ + 0x37,0x43,0x30,0x33,0x31,0x60,0x7B,0x60, /* 00002B70 "7C031`{`" */ + 0x0A,0x80,0x60,0xA0,0x08,0x93,0x60,0x00, /* 00002B78 "..`...`." */ + 0x70,0x0A,0x0B,0x60,0xA1,0x05,0x70,0x0A, /* 00002B80 "p..`..p." */ + 0x0D,0x60,0xA4,0x60,0x14,0x34,0x5F,0x44, /* 00002B88 ".`.`.4_D" */ + 0x49,0x53,0x00,0x70,0x5E,0x5E,0x2F,0x03, /* 00002B90 "IS.p^^/." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x30,0x30,0x43,0x30,0x30,0x37, /* 00002B98 "C000C007" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x33,0x31,0x60,0x7B,0x60,0x0A, /* 00002BA0 "C031`{`." */ + 0xF0,0x60,0x7D,0x60,0x0A,0x80,0x60,0x70, /* 00002BA8 ".`}`..`p" */ + 0x60,0x5E,0x5E,0x2F,0x03,0x43,0x30,0x30, /* 00002BB0 "`^^/.C00" */ + 0x30,0x43,0x30,0x30,0x37,0x43,0x30,0x33, /* 00002BB8 "0C007C03" */ + 0x31,0x14,0x19,0x5F,0x53,0x52,0x53,0x01, /* 00002BC0 "1.._SRS." */ + 0x70,0x0A,0x0B,0x5E,0x5E,0x2F,0x03,0x43, /* 00002BC8 "p..^^/.C" */ + 0x30,0x30,0x30,0x43,0x30,0x30,0x37,0x43, /* 00002BD0 "000C007C" */ + 0x30,0x33,0x31,0x14,0x4E,0x07,0x5F,0x43, /* 00002BD8 "031.N._C" */ + 0x52,0x53,0x00,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x46,0x32, /* 00002BE0 "RS..C0F2" */ + 0x11,0x09,0x0A,0x06,0x23,0x00,0x00,0x18, /* 00002BE8 "....#..." */ + 0x79,0x00,0x8C,0x43,0x30,0x46,0x32,0x01, /* 00002BF0 "y..C0F2." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x46,0x33,0x8C,0x43,0x30,0x46, /* 00002BF8 "C0F3.C0F" */ + 0x32,0x0A,0x02,0x43,0x30,0x46,0x34,0x70, /* 00002C00 "2..C0F4p" */ + 0x00,0x63,0x70,0x00,0x64,0x70,0x5E,0x5E, /* 00002C08 ".cp.dp^^" */ + 0x2F,0x03,0x43,0x30,0x30,0x30,0x43,0x30, /* 00002C10 "/.C000C0" */ + 0x30,0x37,0x43,0x30,0x33,0x31,0x60,0x7B, /* 00002C18 "07C031`{" */ + 0x60,0x0A,0x8F,0x60,0xA0,0x24,0x95,0x60, /* 00002C20 "`..`.$.`" */ + 0x0A,0x80,0x7B,0x60,0x0A,0x0F,0x60,0xA0, /* 00002C28 "..{`..`." */ + 0x0E,0x94,0x60,0x0A,0x07,0x74,0x60,0x0A, /* 00002C30 "..`..t`." */ + 0x08,0x62,0x79,0x01,0x62,0x64,0xA1,0x0A, /* 00002C38 ".by.bd.." */ + 0xA0,0x08,0x94,0x60,0x00,0x79,0x01,0x60, /* 00002C40 "...`.y.`" */ + 0x63,0x70,0x63,0x43,0x30,0x46,0x33,0x70, /* 00002C48 "cpcC0F3p" */ + 0x64,0x43,0x30,0x46,0x34,0xA4,0x43,0x30, /* 00002C50 "dC0F4.C0" */ + 0x46,0x32,0x5B,0x82,0x4C,0x12,0x2E,0x5F, /* 00002C58 "F2[.L.._" */ + 0x53,0x42,0x5F,0x43,0x30,0x46,0x35,0x08, /* 00002C60 "SB_C0F5." */ + 0x5F,0x48,0x49,0x44,0x0D,0x50,0x4E,0x50, /* 00002C68 "_HID.PNP" */ + 0x30,0x43,0x30,0x46,0x00,0x08,0x5F,0x55, /* 00002C70 "0C0F.._U" */ + 0x49,0x44,0x0A,0x04,0x08,0x5F,0x50,0x52, /* 00002C78 "ID..._PR" */ + 0x53,0x11,0x09,0x0A,0x06,0x23,0x00,0x08, /* 00002C80 "S....#.." */ + 0x18,0x79,0x00,0x14,0x2E,0x5F,0x53,0x54, /* 00002C88 ".y..._ST" */ + 0x41,0x00,0x70,0x5E,0x5E,0x2F,0x03,0x43, /* 00002C90 "A.p^^/.C" */ + 0x30,0x30,0x30,0x43,0x30,0x30,0x37,0x43, /* 00002C98 "000C007C" */ + 0x30,0x33,0x34,0x60,0x7B,0x60,0x0A,0x80, /* 00002CA0 "034`{`.." */ + 0x60,0xA0,0x08,0x93,0x60,0x00,0x70,0x0A, /* 00002CA8 "`...`.p." */ + 0x0B,0x60,0xA1,0x05,0x70,0x0A,0x0D,0x60, /* 00002CB0 ".`..p..`" */ + 0xA4,0x60,0x14,0x34,0x5F,0x44,0x49,0x53, /* 00002CB8 ".`.4_DIS" */ + 0x00,0x70,0x5E,0x5E,0x2F,0x03,0x43,0x30, /* 00002CC0 ".p^^/.C0" */ + 0x30,0x30,0x43,0x30,0x30,0x37,0x43,0x30, /* 00002CC8 "00C007C0" */ + 0x33,0x34,0x60,0x7B,0x60,0x0A,0xF0,0x60, /* 00002CD0 "34`{`..`" */ + 0x7D,0x60,0x0A,0x80,0x60,0x70,0x60,0x5E, /* 00002CD8 "}`..`p`^" */ + 0x5E,0x2F,0x03,0x43,0x30,0x30,0x30,0x43, /* 00002CE0 "^/.C000C" */ + 0x30,0x30,0x37,0x43,0x30,0x33,0x34,0x14, /* 00002CE8 "007C034." */ + 0x19,0x5F,0x53,0x52,0x53,0x01,0x70,0x0A, /* 00002CF0 "._SRS.p." */ + 0x0B,0x5E,0x5E,0x2F,0x03,0x43,0x30,0x30, /* 00002CF8 ".^^/.C00" */ + 0x30,0x43,0x30,0x30,0x37,0x43,0x30,0x33, /* 00002D00 "0C007C03" */ + 0x34,0x14,0x4E,0x07,0x5F,0x43,0x52,0x53, /* 00002D08 "4.N._CRS" */ + 0x00,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x46,0x32,0x11,0x09, /* 00002D10 "..C0F2.." */ + 0x0A,0x06,0x23,0x00,0x00,0x18,0x79,0x00, /* 00002D18 "..#...y." */ + 0x8C,0x43,0x30,0x46,0x32,0x01,0x43,0x30, /* 00002D20 ".C0F2.C0" */ + 0x46,0x33,0x8C,0x43,0x30,0x46,0x32,0x0A, /* 00002D28 "F3.C0F2." */ + 0x02,0x43,0x30,0x46,0x34,0x70,0x00,0x63, /* 00002D30 ".C0F4p.c" */ + 0x70,0x00,0x64,0x70,0x5E,0x5E,0x2F,0x03, /* 00002D38 "p.dp^^/." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x30,0x30,0x43,0x30,0x30,0x37, /* 00002D40 "C000C007" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x33,0x34,0x60,0x7B,0x60,0x0A, /* 00002D48 "C034`{`." */ + 0x8F,0x60,0xA0,0x24,0x95,0x60,0x0A,0x80, /* 00002D50 ".`.$.`.." */ + 0x7B,0x60,0x0A,0x0F,0x60,0xA0,0x0E,0x94, /* 00002D58 "{`..`..." */ + 0x60,0x0A,0x07,0x74,0x60,0x0A,0x08,0x62, /* 00002D60 "`..t`..b" */ + 0x79,0x01,0x62,0x64,0xA1,0x0A,0xA0,0x08, /* 00002D68 "y.bd...." */ + 0x94,0x60,0x00,0x79,0x01,0x60,0x63,0x70, /* 00002D70 ".`.y.`cp" */ + 0x63,0x43,0x30,0x46,0x33,0x70,0x64,0x43, /* 00002D78 "cC0F3pdC" */ + 0x30,0x46,0x34,0xA4,0x43,0x30,0x46,0x32, /* 00002D80 "0F4.C0F2" */ + 0x08,0x2F,0x03,0x5F,0x53,0x42,0x5F,0x43, /* 00002D88 "./._SB_C" */ + 0x30,0x30,0x30,0x5F,0x50,0x52,0x54,0x12, /* 00002D90 "000_PRT." */ + 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0x43,0x30,0x42,0x46,0x0A,0x12,0x5C,0x2E, /* 00002FC8 "C0BF..\." */ + 0x5F,0x53,0x42,0x5F,0x43,0x30,0x43,0x31, /* 00002FD0 "_SB_C0C1" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x31,0x31,0x5C,0x2E,0x5F,0x53, /* 00002FD8 "C011\._S" */ + 0x42,0x5F,0x43,0x30,0x42,0x46,0x0A,0x18, /* 00002FE0 "B_C0BF.." */ + 0x5C,0x2E,0x5F,0x53,0x42,0x5F,0x43,0x30, /* 00002FE8 "\._SB_C0" */ + 0x43,0x31,0x43,0x30,0x31,0x33,0x5C,0x2E, /* 00002FF0 "C1C013\." */ + 0x5F,0x53,0x42,0x5F,0x43,0x30,0x42,0x46, /* 00002FF8 "_SB_C0BF" */ + 0x0A,0x20,0x5C,0x2E,0x5F,0x53,0x42,0x5F, /* 00003000 ". \._SB_" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x43,0x31,0x43,0x30,0x31,0x35, /* 00003008 "C0C1C015" */ + 0x5C,0x2E,0x5F,0x53,0x42,0x5F,0x43,0x30, /* 00003010 "\._SB_C0" */ + 0x42,0x46,0x0A,0x28,0x10,0x4D,0x64,0x5F, /* 00003018 "BF.(.Md_" */ + 0x54,0x5A,0x5F,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x46,0x37, /* 00003020 "TZ_.C0F7" */ + 0x12,0x43,0x06,0x02,0x12,0x2F,0x05,0x12, /* 00003028 ".C.../.." */ + 0x08,0x02,0x0B,0xAC,0x05,0x0B,0xAC,0x05, /* 00003030 "........" */ + 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0x01,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x46,0x42,0x01,0x08, /* 000030A8 "..C0FB.." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x46,0x43,0x0A,0x02,0x08,0x43, /* 000030B0 "C0FC...C" */ + 0x30,0x46,0x44,0x0A,0x03,0x5B,0x01,0x43, /* 000030B8 "0FD..[.C" */ + 0x30,0x46,0x45,0x00,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x46, /* 000030C0 "0FE..C0F" */ + 0x46,0x01,0x08,0x43,0x31,0x30,0x30,0x00, /* 000030C8 "F..C100." */ + 0x5B,0x82,0x4F,0x08,0x43,0x31,0x30,0x31, /* 000030D0 "[.O.C101" */ + 0x14,0x44,0x04,0x5F,0x49,0x4E,0x49,0x00, /* 000030D8 ".D._INI." */ + 0x70,0x0D,0x69,0x6E,0x69,0x74,0x69,0x61, /* 000030E0 "p.initia" */ + 0x6C,0x69,0x7A,0x65,0x20,0x43,0x31,0x30, /* 000030E8 "lize C10" */ + 0x31,0x00,0x5B,0x31,0x70,0x01,0x60,0xA2, /* 000030F0 "1.[1p.`." */ + 0x25,0x95,0x60,0x0A,0x05,0x70,0x83,0x88, /* 000030F8 "%.`..p.." */ + 0x83,0x88,0x83,0x88,0x43,0x30,0x46,0x37, /* 00003100 "....C0F7" */ + 0x43,0x31,0x30,0x30,0x00,0x60,0x00,0x01, /* 00003108 "C100.`.." */ + 0x00,0x61,0x70,0x61,0x88,0x43,0x30,0x46, /* 00003110 ".apa.C0F" */ + 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0x42,0x5F,0x43,0x30,0x30,0x30,0x43,0x30, /* 00003C30 "B_C000C0" */ + 0x30,0x37,0x43,0x30,0x32,0x44,0x62,0xA0, /* 00003C38 "07C02Db." */ + 0x3D,0x7B,0x62,0x0A,0x04,0x00,0x70,0x0D, /* 00003C40 "={b...p." */ + 0x5F,0x4C,0x30,0x41,0x3A,0x20,0x20,0x4C, /* 00003C48 "_L0A: L" */ + 0x6F,0x77,0x20,0x62,0x61,0x74,0x74,0x65, /* 00003C50 "ow batte" */ + 0x72,0x79,0x20,0x65,0x76,0x65,0x6E,0x74, /* 00003C58 "ry event" */ + 0x00,0x5B,0x31,0x86,0x5C,0x2E,0x5F,0x53, /* 00003C60 ".[1.\._S" */ + 0x42,0x5F,0x43,0x30,0x44,0x35,0x0A,0x80, /* 00003C68 "B_C0D5.." */ + 0x86,0x5C,0x2E,0x5F,0x53,0x42,0x5F,0x43, /* 00003C70 ".\._SB_C" */ + 0x30,0x44,0x36,0x0A,0x80,0x5B,0x23,0x5F, /* 00003C78 "0D6..[#_" */ + 0x47,0x4C,0x5F,0xFF,0xFF,0x70,0x00,0x5C, /* 00003C80 "GL_..p.\" */ + 0x2F,0x05,0x5F,0x53,0x42,0x5F,0x43,0x30, /* 00003C88 "/._SB_C0" */ + 0x30,0x30,0x43,0x30,0x30,0x37,0x43,0x30, /* 00003C90 "00C007C0" */ + 0x32,0x35,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x46,0x5B,0x27, /* 00003C98 "25C05F['" */ + 0x5F,0x47,0x4C,0x5F,0x14,0x4C,0x04,0x5F, /* 00003CA0 "_GL_.L._" */ + 0x4C,0x30,0x42,0x00,0x70,0x0D,0x5F,0x4C, /* 00003CA8 "L0B.p._L" */ + 0x30,0x42,0x3A,0x20,0x20,0x45,0x6E,0x74, /* 00003CB0 "0B: Ent" */ + 0x65,0x72,0x00,0x5B,0x31,0x86,0x5C,0x2F, /* 00003CB8 "er.[1.\/" */ + 0x03,0x5F,0x53,0x42,0x5F,0x43,0x30,0x30, /* 00003CC0 "._SB_C00" */ + 0x30,0x43,0x30,0x44,0x37,0x0A,0x02,0x86, /* 00003CC8 "0C0D7..." */ + 0x5C,0x2F,0x03,0x5F,0x53,0x42,0x5F,0x43, /* 00003CD0 "\/._SB_C" */ + 0x30,0x30,0x30,0x43,0x30,0x44,0x41,0x0A, /* 00003CD8 "000C0DA." */ + 0x02,0x70,0x0D,0x5F,0x4C,0x30,0x42,0x3A, /* 00003CE0 ".p._L0B:" */ + 0x20,0x20,0x45,0x78,0x69,0x74,0x00,0x5B, /* 00003CE8 " Exit.[" */ + 0x31,0x10,0x4E,0x80,0x2F,0x03,0x5F,0x53, /* 00003CF0 "1.N./._S" */ + 0x42,0x5F,0x43,0x30,0x30,0x30,0x43,0x30, /* 00003CF8 "B_C000C0" */ + 0x30,0x37,0x5B,0x82,0x4F,0x5A,0x43,0x30, /* 00003D00 "07[.OZC0" */ + 0x39,0x46,0x08,0x5F,0x48,0x49,0x44,0x0D, /* 00003D08 "9F._HID." */ + 0x45,0x53,0x53,0x31,0x38,0x36,0x39,0x00, /* 00003D10 "ESS1869." */ + 0x5B,0x01,0x43,0x31,0x30,0x42,0x00,0x08, /* 00003D18 "[.C10B.." */ + 0x43,0x31,0x30,0x43,0x12,0x0E,0x04,0x0B, /* 00003D20 "C10C...." */ + 0x20,0x02,0x0B,0x30,0x02,0x0B,0x40,0x02, /* 00003D28 " ..0..@." */ + 0x0B,0x50,0x02,0x14,0x1F,0x43,0x31,0x30, /* 00003D30 ".P...C10" */ + 0x44,0x00,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x41,0x46,0x00, /* 00003D38 "D.pC0AF." */ + 0x0A,0x15,0x00,0x00,0x60,0x7B,0x60,0x0A, /* 00003D40 "....`{`." */ + 0x03,0x60,0xA4,0x83,0x88,0x43,0x31,0x30, /* 00003D48 ".`...C10" */ + 0x43,0x60,0x00,0x5B,0x80,0x43,0x31,0x30, /* 00003D50 "C`.[.C10" */ + 0x45,0x01,0x43,0x31,0x30,0x44,0x0A,0x0F, /* 00003D58 "E.C10D.." */ + 0x5B,0x81,0x17,0x43,0x31,0x30,0x45,0x00, /* 00003D60 "[..C10E." */ + 0x00,0x28,0x43,0x31,0x30,0x46,0x08,0x43, /* 00003D68 ".(C10F.C" */ + 0x31,0x31,0x30,0x08,0x43,0x31,0x31,0x31, /* 00003D70 "110.C111" */ + 0x08,0x14,0x24,0x43,0x30,0x41,0x30,0x00, /* 00003D78 "..$C0A0." */ + 0x70,0x43,0x30,0x41,0x46,0x00,0x0A,0x51, /* 00003D80 "pC0AF..Q" */ + 0x00,0x00,0x60,0x7A,0x60,0x0A,0x04,0x60, /* 00003D88 "..`z`..`" */ + 0x7B,0x60,0x0A,0x03,0x60,0xA4,0x83,0x88, /* 00003D90 "{`..`..." */ + 0x43,0x31,0x30,0x43,0x60,0x00,0x5B,0x80, /* 00003D98 "C10C`.[." */ + 0x43,0x31,0x31,0x32,0x01,0x43,0x30,0x41, /* 00003DA0 "C112.C0A" */ + 0x30,0x0A,0x02,0x5B,0x81,0x10,0x43,0x31, /* 00003DA8 "0..[..C1" */ + 0x31,0x32,0x01,0x43,0x31,0x31,0x33,0x08, /* 00003DB0 "12.C113." */ + 0x43,0x31,0x31,0x34,0x08,0x5B,0x86,0x4F, /* 00003DB8 "C114.[.O" */ + 0x04,0x43,0x31,0x31,0x33,0x43,0x31,0x31, /* 00003DC0 ".C113C11" */ + 0x34,0x01,0x00,0x38,0x43,0x31,0x31,0x35, /* 00003DC8 "4..8C115" */ + 0x08,0x00,0x40,0x14,0x43,0x31,0x31,0x36, /* 00003DD0 "..@.C116" */ + 0x08,0x00,0x48,0x17,0x43,0x31,0x31,0x37, /* 00003DD8 "..H.C117" */ + 0x08,0x43,0x31,0x31,0x38,0x08,0x43,0x31, /* 00003DE0 ".C118.C1" */ + 0x31,0x39,0x08,0x43,0x31,0x31,0x41,0x08, /* 00003DE8 "19.C11A." */ + 0x43,0x31,0x31,0x42,0x08,0x43,0x31,0x31, /* 00003DF0 "C11B.C11" */ + 0x43,0x08,0x00,0x40,0x05,0x43,0x31,0x31, /* 00003DF8 "C..@.C11" */ + 0x44,0x08,0x00,0x18,0x43,0x31,0x31,0x45, /* 00003E00 "D...C11E" */ + 0x08,0x43,0x31,0x31,0x46,0x08,0x08,0x43, /* 00003E08 ".C11F..C" */ + 0x30,0x44,0x44,0x11,0x4B,0x04,0x0A,0x47, /* 00003E10 "0DD.K..G" */ + 0x30,0x47,0x01,0x20,0x02,0x50,0x02,0x10, /* 00003E18 "0G. .P.." */ + 0x10,0x47,0x01,0x88,0x03,0x88,0x03,0x01, /* 00003E20 ".G......" */ + 0x04,0x47,0x01,0x00,0x03,0x30,0x03,0x10, /* 00003E28 ".G...0.." */ + 0x02,0x22,0xA0,0x06,0x2A,0x23,0x00,0x2A, /* 00003E30 "."..*#.*" */ + 0x23,0x00,0x30,0x47,0x01,0x20,0x02,0x50, /* 00003E38 "#.0G. .P" */ + 0x02,0x10,0x10,0x47,0x01,0x00,0x00,0x00, /* 00003E40 "...G...." */ + 0x00,0x00,0x00,0x47,0x01,0x00,0x03,0x30, /* 00003E48 "...G...0" */ + 0x03,0x10,0x02,0x22,0xA0,0x06,0x2A,0x23, /* 00003E50 "..."..*#" */ + 0x00,0x2A,0x23,0x00,0x38,0x79,0x00,0x14, /* 00003E58 ".*#.8y.." */ + 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0x7A,0x43,0x30,0x44,0x45,0x0A,0x08,0x00, /* 00003FB0 "zC0DE..." */ + 0x43,0x31,0x31,0x37,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x45, /* 00003FB8 "C117pC0E" */ + 0x34,0x63,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x45,0x34,0x43, /* 00003FC0 "4cpC0E4C" */ + 0x31,0x31,0x41,0x70,0x7A,0x43,0x30,0x45, /* 00003FC8 "11ApzC0E" */ + 0x34,0x0A,0x08,0x00,0x43,0x31,0x31,0x39, /* 00003FD0 "4...C119" */ + 0x70,0x43,0x31,0x32,0x32,0x43,0x31,0x31, /* 00003FD8 "pC122C11" */ + 0x43,0x70,0x7A,0x43,0x31,0x32,0x32,0x0A, /* 00003FE0 "CpzC122." */ + 0x08,0x00,0x43,0x31,0x31,0x42,0xA0,0x0B, /* 00003FE8 "..C11B.." */ + 0x93,0x43,0x31,0x32,0x33,0x00,0x70,0x0A, /* 00003FF0 ".C123.p." */ + 0x04,0x61,0xA1,0x09,0x82,0x43,0x31,0x32, /* 00003FF8 ".a...C12" */ + 0x33,0x61,0x76,0x61,0x70,0x61,0x43,0x31, /* 00004000 "3avapaC1" */ + 0x31,0x45,0xA0,0x0B,0x93,0x43,0x31,0x32, /* 00004008 "1E...C12" */ + 0x34,0x00,0x70,0x0A,0x04,0x62,0xA1,0x09, /* 00004010 "4.p..b.." */ + 0x82,0x43,0x31,0x32,0x34,0x62,0x76,0x62, /* 00004018 ".C124bvb" */ + 0x70,0x62,0x43,0x31,0x31,0x46,0x7A,0x43, /* 00004020 "pbC11FzC" */ + 0x30,0x44,0x45,0x0A,0x04,0x66,0x74,0x66, /* 00004028 "0DE..ftf" */ + 0x0A,0x22,0x67,0x7D,0x67,0x0A,0x04,0x67, /* 00004030 "."g}g..g" */ + 0x70,0x89,0x43,0x31,0x32,0x30,0x01,0x61, /* 00004038 "p.C120.a" */ + 0x00,0x00,0x00,0x66,0x7D,0x67,0x79,0x66, /* 00004040 "...f}gyf" */ + 0x0A,0x03,0x00,0x67,0x70,0x89,0x43,0x31, /* 00004048 "...gp.C1" */ + 0x32,0x31,0x01,0x60,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x66, /* 00004050 "21.`...f" */ + 0x7D,0x67,0x79,0x66,0x0A,0x05,0x00,0x67, /* 00004058 "}gyf...g" */ + 0x7D,0x67,0x79,0x66,0x0A,0x05,0x00,0x67, /* 00004060 "}gyf...g" */ + 0x70,0x89,0x43,0x31,0x32,0x30,0x01,0x62, /* 00004068 "p.C120.b" */ + 0x00,0x00,0x00,0x66,0x7A,0x43,0x31,0x32, /* 00004070 "...fzC12" */ + 0x32,0x0A,0x04,0x66,0x74,0x66,0x0A,0x30, /* 00004078 "2..ftf.0" */ + 0x67,0x79,0x67,0x0A,0x03,0x67,0x70,0x01, /* 00004080 "gyg..gp." */ + 0x43,0x31,0x31,0x36,0x5B,0x27,0x43,0x31, /* 00004088 "C116['C1" */ + 0x30,0x42,0x70,0x0D,0x44,0x65,0x62,0x75, /* 00004090 "0Bp.Debu" */ + 0x67,0x20,0x3A,0x20,0x45,0x78,0x69,0x74, /* 00004098 "g : Exit" */ + 0x20,0x6F,0x66,0x20,0x5F,0x53,0x52,0x53, /* 000040A0 " of _SRS" */ + 0x20,0x72,0x6F,0x75,0x74,0x69,0x6E,0x67, /* 000040A8 " routing" */ + 0x00,0x5B,0x31,0x14,0x4F,0x1F,0x5F,0x43, /* 000040B0 ".[1.O._C" */ + 0x52,0x53,0x00,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x39, /* 000040B8 "RS..C099" */ + 0x11,0x26,0x0A,0x23,0x47,0x01,0x20,0x02, /* 000040C0 ".&.#G. ." */ + 0x20,0x02,0x10,0x10,0x47,0x01,0x88,0x03, /* 000040C8 " ...G..." */ + 0x88,0x03,0x01,0x04,0x47,0x01,0x30,0x03, /* 000040D0 "....G.0." */ + 0x30,0x03,0x10,0x02,0x22,0x20,0x00,0x2A, /* 000040D8 "0..." .*" */ + 0x02,0x00,0x2A,0x20,0x00,0x79,0x00,0x8B, /* 000040E0 "..* .y.." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x39,0x39,0x0A,0x02,0x43,0x30, /* 000040E8 "C099..C0" */ + 0x44,0x45,0x8B,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x39,0x0A, /* 000040F0 "DE.C099." */ + 0x04,0x43,0x30,0x45,0x30,0x8C,0x43,0x30, /* 000040F8 ".C0E0.C0" */ + 0x39,0x39,0x0A,0x07,0x43,0x30,0x45,0x31, /* 00004100 "99..C0E1" */ + 0x8B,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x39,0x0A,0x0A,0x43, /* 00004108 ".C099..C" */ + 0x30,0x45,0x34,0x8B,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x39, /* 00004110 "0E4.C099" */ + 0x0A,0x0C,0x43,0x30,0x45,0x35,0x8C,0x43, /* 00004118 "..C0E5.C" */ + 0x30,0x39,0x39,0x0A,0x0F,0x43,0x30,0x45, /* 00004120 "099..C0E" */ + 0x36,0x8B,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x39,0x0A,0x12, /* 00004128 "6.C099.." */ + 0x43,0x31,0x32,0x32,0x8B,0x43,0x30,0x39, /* 00004130 "C122.C09" */ + 0x39,0x0A,0x14,0x43,0x31,0x32,0x35,0x8C, /* 00004138 "9..C125." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x39,0x39,0x0A,0x17,0x43,0x31, /* 00004140 "C099..C1" */ + 0x32,0x36,0x8B,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x39,0x0A, /* 00004148 "26.C099." */ + 0x19,0x43,0x30,0x44,0x46,0x8B,0x43,0x30, /* 00004150 ".C0DF.C0" */ + 0x39,0x39,0x0A,0x1C,0x43,0x31,0x32,0x33, /* 00004158 "99..C123" */ + 0x8B,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x39,0x0A,0x1F,0x43, /* 00004160 ".C099..C" */ + 0x31,0x32,0x34,0x5B,0x23,0x43,0x31,0x30, /* 00004168 "124[#C10" */ + 0x42,0xFF,0xFF,0x70,0x01,0x43,0x31,0x31, /* 00004170 "B..p.C11" */ + 0x35,0xA0,0x44,0x09,0x93,0x43,0x31,0x31, /* 00004178 "5.D..C11" */ + 0x36,0x00,0x70,0x00,0x43,0x30,0x44,0x45, /* 00004180 "6.p.C0DE" */ + 0x70,0x00,0x43,0x30,0x45,0x30,0x70,0x00, /* 00004188 "p.C0E0p." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x45,0x31,0x70,0x00,0x43,0x30, /* 00004190 "C0E1p.C0" */ + 0x45,0x34,0x70,0x00,0x43,0x30,0x45,0x35, /* 00004198 "E4p.C0E5" */ + 0x70,0x00,0x43,0x30,0x45,0x36,0x70,0x00, /* 000041A0 "p.C0E6p." */ + 0x43,0x31,0x32,0x32,0x70,0x00,0x43,0x31, /* 000041A8 "C122p.C1" */ + 0x32,0x35,0x70,0x00,0x43,0x31,0x32,0x36, /* 000041B0 "25p.C126" */ + 0x70,0x00,0x43,0x30,0x44,0x46,0x70,0x00, /* 000041B8 "p.C0DFp." */ + 0x43,0x31,0x32,0x33,0x70,0x00,0x43,0x31, /* 000041C0 "C123p.C1" */ + 0x32,0x34,0x5B,0x27,0x43,0x31,0x30,0x42, /* 000041C8 "24['C10B" */ + 0x70,0x0D,0x47,0x65,0x74,0x20,0x43,0x75, /* 000041D0 "p.Get Cu" */ + 0x72,0x72,0x65,0x6E,0x74,0x20,0x41,0x75, /* 000041D8 "rrent Au" */ + 0x64,0x69,0x6F,0x20,0x52,0x65,0x73,0x6F, /* 000041E0 "dio Reso" */ + 0x75,0x72,0x63,0x65,0x20,0x61,0x6E,0x64, /* 000041E8 "urce and" */ + 0x20,0x52,0x65,0x74,0x75,0x72,0x6E,0x20, /* 000041F0 " Return " */ + 0x44,0x65,0x76,0x69,0x63,0x65,0x20,0x44, /* 000041F8 "Device D" */ + 0x69,0x73,0x61,0x62,0x6C,0x65,0x00,0x5B, /* 00004200 "isable.[" */ + 0x31,0xA4,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x39,0x70,0x7D, /* 00004208 "1.C099p}" */ + 0x79,0x43,0x31,0x31,0x37,0x0A,0x08,0x00, /* 00004210 "yC117..." */ + 0x43,0x31,0x31,0x38,0x00,0x43,0x30,0x44, /* 00004218 "C118.C0D" */ + 0x45,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x44,0x45,0x43,0x30, /* 00004220 "EpC0DEC0" */ + 0x45,0x30,0x70,0x7D,0x79,0x43,0x31,0x31, /* 00004228 "E0p}yC11" */ + 0x39,0x0A,0x08,0x00,0x43,0x31,0x31,0x41, /* 00004230 "9...C11A" */ + 0x00,0x43,0x30,0x45,0x34,0x70,0x43,0x30, /* 00004238 ".C0E4pC0" */ + 0x45,0x34,0x43,0x30,0x45,0x35,0x70,0x7D, /* 00004240 "E4C0E5p}" */ + 0x79,0x43,0x31,0x31,0x42,0x0A,0x08,0x00, /* 00004248 "yC11B..." */ + 0x43,0x31,0x31,0x43,0x00,0x43,0x31,0x32, /* 00004250 "C11C.C12" */ + 0x32,0x70,0x43,0x31,0x32,0x32,0x43,0x31, /* 00004258 "2pC122C1" */ + 0x32,0x35,0x70,0x79,0x01,0x43,0x31,0x31, /* 00004260 "25py.C11" */ + 0x44,0x00,0x43,0x30,0x44,0x46,0x70,0x43, /* 00004268 "D.C0DFpC" */ + 0x31,0x31,0x45,0x60,0xA0,0x0B,0x93,0x60, /* 00004270 "11E`...`" */ + 0x0A,0x04,0x70,0x00,0x43,0x31,0x32,0x33, /* 00004278 "..p.C123" */ + 0xA1,0x0A,0x70,0x79,0x01,0x60,0x00,0x43, /* 00004280 "..py.`.C" */ + 0x31,0x32,0x33,0x70,0x43,0x31,0x31,0x46, /* 00004288 "123pC11F" */ + 0x60,0xA0,0x0B,0x93,0x60,0x0A,0x04,0x70, /* 00004290 "`...`..p" */ + 0x00,0x43,0x31,0x32,0x34,0xA1,0x0A,0x70, /* 00004298 ".C124..p" */ + 0x79,0x01,0x60,0x00,0x43,0x31,0x32,0x34, /* 000042A0 "y.`.C124" */ + 0x5B,0x27,0x43,0x31,0x30,0x42,0xA4,0x43, /* 000042A8 "['C10B.C" */ + 0x30,0x39,0x39,0x5B,0x82,0x4B,0x24,0x43, /* 000042B0 "099[.K$C" */ + 0x31,0x32,0x37,0x08,0x5F,0x48,0x49,0x44, /* 000042B8 "127._HID" */ + 0x0D,0x50,0x4E,0x50,0x42,0x30,0x32,0x46, /* 000042C0 ".PNPB02F" */ + 0x00,0x08,0x5F,0x43,0x49,0x44,0x0C,0x41, /* 000042C8 ".._CID.A" */ + 0xD0,0xB0,0x2F,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x44,0x44, /* 000042D0 "../.C0DD" */ + 0x11,0x0F,0x0A,0x0C,0x30,0x47,0x01,0x01, /* 000042D8 "....0G.." */ + 0x02,0x01,0x02,0x01,0x01,0x38,0x79,0x00, /* 000042E0 ".....8y." */ + 0x14,0x4B,0x06,0x5F,0x53,0x54,0x41,0x00, /* 000042E8 ".K._STA." */ + 0xA0,0x14,0x92,0x93,0x5E,0x5E,0x2E,0x43, /* 000042F0 "....^^.C" */ + 0x30,0x32,0x35,0x43,0x30,0x35,0x37,0x0A, /* 000042F8 "025C057." */ + 0x08,0x70,0x0A,0x04,0x67,0xA1,0x04,0x70, /* 00004300 ".p..g..p" */ + 0x00,0x67,0x5B,0x23,0x5E,0x5E,0x2E,0x43, /* 00004308 ".g[#^^.C" */ + 0x30,0x39,0x46,0x43,0x31,0x30,0x42,0xFF, /* 00004310 "09FC10B." */ + 0xFF,0x70,0x0A,0x02,0x5E,0x5E,0x2E,0x43, /* 00004318 ".p..^^.C" */ + 0x30,0x39,0x46,0x43,0x31,0x31,0x35,0x70, /* 00004320 "09FC115p" */ + 0x5E,0x5E,0x2E,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x46,0x43, /* 00004328 "^^.C09FC" */ + 0x31,0x31,0x36,0x60,0x5B,0x27,0x5E,0x5E, /* 00004330 "116`['^^" */ + 0x2E,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x46,0x43,0x31,0x30, /* 00004338 ".C09FC10" */ + 0x42,0xA0,0x09,0x93,0x60,0x01,0x7D,0x0A, /* 00004340 "B...`.}." */ + 0x0B,0x67,0x60,0xA1,0x06,0x7D,0x0A,0x09, /* 00004348 ".g`..}.." */ + 0x67,0x60,0xA4,0x60,0x14,0x42,0x06,0x5F, /* 00004350 "g`.`.B._" */ + 0x44,0x49,0x53,0x00,0xA0,0x0D,0x93,0x7B, /* 00004358 "DIS....{" */ + 0x0A,0x02,0x5F,0x53,0x54,0x41,0x00,0x00, /* 00004360 ".._STA.." */ + 0xA4,0x00,0x5B,0x23,0x5E,0x5E,0x2E,0x43, /* 00004368 "..[#^^.C" */ + 0x30,0x39,0x46,0x43,0x31,0x30,0x42,0xFF, /* 00004370 "09FC10B." */ + 0xFF,0x43,0x30,0x41,0x41,0x0A,0x02,0x0A, /* 00004378 ".C0AA..." */ + 0x6A,0x00,0x0A,0xFD,0x43,0x30,0x41,0x41, /* 00004380 "j...C0AA" */ + 0x0A,0x03,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x70,0x0A,0x02, /* 00004388 ".....p.." */ + 0x5E,0x5E,0x2E,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x46,0x43, /* 00004390 "^^.C09FC" */ + 0x31,0x31,0x35,0x70,0x00,0x5E,0x5E,0x2E, /* 00004398 "115p.^^." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x39,0x46,0x43,0x31,0x31,0x36, /* 000043A0 "C09FC116" */ + 0x5B,0x27,0x5E,0x5E,0x2E,0x43,0x30,0x39, /* 000043A8 "['^^.C09" */ + 0x46,0x43,0x31,0x30,0x42,0xA4,0x00,0x14, /* 000043B0 "FC10B..." */ + 0x0B,0x5F,0x50,0x52,0x53,0x00,0xA4,0x43, /* 000043B8 "._PRS..C" */ + 0x30,0x44,0x44,0x14,0x45,0x08,0x5F,0x53, /* 000043C0 "0DD.E._S" */ + 0x52,0x53,0x01,0x8B,0x68,0x0A,0x02,0x43, /* 000043C8 "RS..h..C" */ + 0x30,0x44,0x45,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x44,0x45, /* 000043D0 "0DEpC0DE" */ + 0x62,0x5B,0x23,0x5E,0x5E,0x2E,0x43,0x30, /* 000043D8 "b[#^^.C0" */ + 0x39,0x46,0x43,0x31,0x30,0x42,0xFF,0xFF, /* 000043E0 "9FC10B.." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x41,0x41,0x0A,0x02,0x0A,0x6A, /* 000043E8 "C0AA...j" */ + 0x0A,0x02,0x0A,0xFD,0x43,0x30,0x41,0x41, /* 000043F0 "....C0AA" */ + 0x0A,0x03,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x70,0x0A,0x02, /* 000043F8 ".....p.." */ + 0x5E,0x5E,0x2E,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x46,0x43, /* 00004400 "^^.C09FC" */ + 0x31,0x31,0x35,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x44,0x45, /* 00004408 "115pC0DE" */ + 0x5E,0x5E,0x2E,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x46,0x43, /* 00004410 "^^.C09FC" */ + 0x31,0x31,0x38,0x70,0x7A,0x43,0x30,0x44, /* 00004418 "118pzC0D" */ + 0x45,0x0A,0x08,0x00,0x5E,0x5E,0x2E,0x43, /* 00004420 "E...^^.C" */ + 0x30,0x39,0x46,0x43,0x31,0x31,0x37,0x70, /* 00004428 "09FC117p" */ + 0x01,0x5E,0x5E,0x2E,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x46, /* 00004430 ".^^.C09F" */ + 0x43,0x31,0x31,0x36,0x5B,0x27,0x5E,0x5E, /* 00004438 "C116['^^" */ + 0x2E,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x46,0x43,0x31,0x30, /* 00004440 ".C09FC10" */ + 0x42,0x14,0x46,0x0B,0x5F,0x43,0x52,0x53, /* 00004448 "B.F._CRS" */ + 0x00,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x39,0x11,0x0D, /* 00004450 "..C099.." */ + 0x0A,0x0A,0x47,0x01,0x01,0x02,0x01,0x02, /* 00004458 "..G....." */ + 0x01,0x01,0x79,0x00,0x8B,0x43,0x30,0x39, /* 00004460 "..y..C09" */ + 0x39,0x0A,0x02,0x43,0x30,0x44,0x45,0x8B, /* 00004468 "9..C0DE." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x39,0x39,0x0A,0x04,0x43,0x30, /* 00004470 "C099..C0" */ + 0x45,0x30,0x5B,0x23,0x5E,0x5E,0x2E,0x43, /* 00004478 "E0[#^^.C" */ + 0x30,0x39,0x46,0x43,0x31,0x30,0x42,0xFF, /* 00004480 "09FC10B." */ + 0xFF,0x70,0x0A,0x02,0x5E,0x5E,0x2E,0x43, /* 00004488 ".p..^^.C" */ + 0x30,0x39,0x46,0x43,0x31,0x31,0x35,0xA0, /* 00004490 "09FC115." */ + 0x2C,0x93,0x5E,0x5E,0x2E,0x43,0x30,0x39, /* 00004498 ",.^^.C09" */ + 0x46,0x43,0x31,0x31,0x36,0x00,0x70,0x00, /* 000044A0 "FC116.p." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x44,0x45,0x70,0x00,0x43,0x30, /* 000044A8 "C0DEp.C0" */ + 0x45,0x30,0x5B,0x27,0x5E,0x5E,0x2E,0x43, /* 000044B0 "E0['^^.C" */ + 0x30,0x39,0x46,0x43,0x31,0x30,0x42,0xA4, /* 000044B8 "09FC10B." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x39,0x39,0x70,0x7D,0x5E,0x5E, /* 000044C0 "C099p}^^" */ + 0x2E,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x46,0x43,0x31,0x31, /* 000044C8 ".C09FC11" */ + 0x38,0x79,0x5E,0x5E,0x2E,0x43,0x30,0x39, /* 000044D0 "8y^^.C09" */ + 0x46,0x43,0x31,0x31,0x37,0x0A,0x08,0x00, /* 000044D8 "FC117..." */ + 0x00,0x43,0x30,0x44,0x45,0x70,0x43,0x30, /* 000044E0 ".C0DEpC0" */ + 0x44,0x45,0x43,0x30,0x45,0x30,0x5B,0x27, /* 000044E8 "DEC0E0['" */ + 0x5E,0x5E,0x2E,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x46,0x43, /* 000044F0 "^^.C09FC" */ + 0x31,0x30,0x42,0xA4,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x39, /* 000044F8 "10B.C099" */ + 0x10,0x43,0x20,0x2E,0x5F,0x53,0x42,0x5F, /* 00004500 ".C ._SB_" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x30,0x30,0x5B,0x82,0x44,0x0A, /* 00004508 "C000[.D." */ + 0x43,0x31,0x30,0x38,0x08,0x5F,0x41,0x44, /* 00004510 "C108._AD" */ + 0x52,0x0C,0x00,0x00,0x0F,0x00,0x08,0x5F, /* 00004518 "R......_" */ + 0x42,0x44,0x4E,0x0C,0x0E,0x11,0xAE,0x54, /* 00004520 "BDN....T" */ + 0x14,0x0B,0x5F,0x55,0x49,0x44,0x00,0xA4, /* 00004528 ".._UID.." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x42,0x34,0x14,0x24,0x5F,0x53, /* 00004530 "C0B4.$_S" */ + 0x54,0x41,0x00,0x70,0x5E,0x5E,0x2F,0x03, /* 00004538 "TA.p^^/." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x30,0x37,0x43,0x30,0x32,0x35, /* 00004540 "C007C025" */ + 0x43,0x30,0x35,0x37,0x60,0xA0,0x07,0x93, /* 00004548 "C057`..." */ + 0x60,0x01,0xA4,0x0A,0x0F,0xA1,0x03,0xA4, /* 00004550 "`......." */ + 0x00,0x14,0x09,0x5F,0x45,0x4A,0x30,0x01, /* 00004558 "..._EJ0." */ + 0x70,0x00,0x60,0x14,0x4E,0x04,0x5F,0x44, /* 00004560 "p.`.N._D" */ + 0x43,0x4B,0x01,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x42,0x45, /* 00004568 "CK.pC0BE" */ + 0x0B,0x3E,0xEA,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x66,0xA0, /* 00004570 ".>....f." */ + 0x19,0x93,0x68,0x01,0x70,0x0D,0x44,0x6F, /* 00004578 "..h.p.Do" */ + 0x63,0x6B,0x69,0x6E,0x67,0x20,0x54,0x49, /* 00004580 "cking TI" */ + 0x31,0x30,0x20,0x6E,0x6F,0x77,0x00,0x5B, /* 00004588 "10 now.[" */ + 0x31,0xA1,0x1E,0x70,0x0D,0x45,0x6A,0x65, /* 00004590 "1..p.Eje" */ + 0x63,0x74,0x69,0x6E,0x67,0x20,0x6F,0x75, /* 00004598 "cting ou" */ + 0x74,0x20,0x6F,0x66,0x20,0x54,0x49,0x31, /* 000045A0 "t of TI1" */ + 0x30,0x20,0x6E,0x6F,0x77,0x00,0x5B,0x31, /* 000045A8 "0 now.[1" */ + 0xA4,0x01,0x5B,0x82,0x47,0x0A,0x43,0x31, /* 000045B0 "..[.G.C1" */ + 0x30,0x39,0x08,0x5F,0x41,0x44,0x52,0x0C, /* 000045B8 "09._ADR." */ + 0x00,0x00,0x0F,0x00,0x08,0x5F,0x42,0x44, /* 000045C0 "....._BD" */ + 0x4E,0x0C,0x0E,0x11,0xAE,0x55,0x14,0x0B, /* 000045C8 "N....U.." */ + 0x5F,0x55,0x49,0x44,0x00,0xA4,0x43,0x30, /* 000045D0 "_UID..C0" */ + 0x42,0x34,0x14,0x25,0x5F,0x53,0x54,0x41, /* 000045D8 "B4.%_STA" */ + 0x00,0x70,0x5E,0x5E,0x2F,0x03,0x43,0x30, /* 000045E0 ".p^^/.C0" */ + 0x30,0x37,0x43,0x30,0x32,0x35,0x43,0x30, /* 000045E8 "07C025C0" */ + 0x35,0x37,0x60,0xA0,0x08,0x93,0x60,0x0A, /* 000045F0 "57`...`." */ + 0x02,0xA4,0x0A,0x0F,0xA1,0x03,0xA4,0x00, /* 000045F8 "........" */ + 0x14,0x09,0x5F,0x45,0x4A,0x30,0x01,0x70, /* 00004600 ".._EJ0.p" */ + 0x00,0x60,0x14,0x40,0x05,0x5F,0x44,0x43, /* 00004608 ".`.@._DC" */ + 0x4B,0x01,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x42,0x45,0x0B, /* 00004610 "K.pC0BE." */ + 0x3E,0xEA,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x66,0xA0,0x1A, /* 00004618 ">....f.." */ + 0x93,0x68,0x01,0x70,0x0D,0x44,0x6F,0x63, /* 00004620 ".h.p.Doc" */ + 0x6B,0x69,0x6E,0x67,0x20,0x54,0x49,0x31, /* 00004628 "king TI1" */ + 0x30,0x30,0x20,0x6E,0x6F,0x77,0x00,0x5B, /* 00004630 "00 now.[" */ + 0x31,0xA1,0x1F,0x70,0x0D,0x45,0x6A,0x65, /* 00004638 "1..p.Eje" */ + 0x63,0x74,0x69,0x6E,0x67,0x20,0x6F,0x75, /* 00004640 "cting ou" */ + 0x74,0x20,0x6F,0x66,0x20,0x54,0x49,0x31, /* 00004648 "t of TI1" */ + 0x30,0x30,0x20,0x6E,0x6F,0x77,0x00,0x5B, /* 00004650 "00 now.[" */ + 0x31,0xA4,0x01,0x5B,0x82,0x47,0x0A,0x43, /* 00004658 "1..[.G.C" */ + 0x31,0x30,0x41,0x08,0x5F,0x41,0x44,0x52, /* 00004660 "10A._ADR" */ + 0x0C,0x00,0x00,0x0F,0x00,0x08,0x5F,0x42, /* 00004668 "......_B" */ + 0x44,0x4E,0x0C,0x0E,0x11,0xB0,0x5F,0x14, /* 00004670 "DN...._." */ + 0x0B,0x5F,0x55,0x49,0x44,0x00,0xA4,0x43, /* 00004678 "._UID..C" */ + 0x30,0x42,0x34,0x14,0x25,0x5F,0x53,0x54, /* 00004680 "0B4.%_ST" */ + 0x41,0x00,0x70,0x5E,0x5E,0x2F,0x03,0x43, /* 00004688 "A.p^^/.C" */ + 0x30,0x30,0x37,0x43,0x30,0x32,0x35,0x43, /* 00004690 "007C025C" */ + 0x30,0x35,0x37,0x60,0xA0,0x08,0x93,0x60, /* 00004698 "057`...`" */ + 0x0A,0x04,0xA4,0x0A,0x0F,0xA1,0x03,0xA4, /* 000046A0 "........" */ + 0x00,0x14,0x09,0x5F,0x45,0x4A,0x30,0x01, /* 000046A8 "..._EJ0." */ + 0x70,0x00,0x60,0x14,0x40,0x05,0x5F,0x44, /* 000046B0 "p.`.@._D" */ + 0x43,0x4B,0x01,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x42,0x45, /* 000046B8 "CK.pC0BE" */ + 0x0B,0x3E,0xEA,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x66,0xA0, /* 000046C0 ".>....f." */ + 0x1A,0x93,0x68,0x01,0x70,0x0D,0x44,0x6F, /* 000046C8 "..h.p.Do" */ + 0x63,0x6B,0x69,0x6E,0x67,0x20,0x43,0x42, /* 000046D0 "cking CB" */ + 0x2D,0x49,0x49,0x20,0x6E,0x6F,0x77,0x00, /* 000046D8 "-II now." */ + 0x5B,0x31,0xA1,0x1F,0x70,0x0D,0x45,0x6A, /* 000046E0 "[1..p.Ej" */ + 0x65,0x63,0x74,0x69,0x6E,0x67,0x20,0x6F, /* 000046E8 "ecting o" */ + 0x75,0x74,0x20,0x6F,0x66,0x20,0x43,0x42, /* 000046F0 "ut of CB" */ + 0x2D,0x49,0x49,0x20,0x6E,0x6F,0x77,0x00, /* 000046F8 "-II now." */ + 0x5B,0x31,0xA4,0x01,0x10,0x49,0x2A,0x2F, /* 00004700 "[1...I*./" */ + 0x03,0x5F,0x53,0x42,0x5F,0x43,0x30,0x30, /* 00004708 "._SB_C00" */ + 0x30,0x43,0x30,0x30,0x37,0x5B,0x82,0x47, /* 00004710 "0C007[.G" */ + 0x29,0x43,0x31,0x32,0x38,0x08,0x5F,0x48, /* 00004718 ")C128._H" */ + 0x49,0x44,0x0C,0x0E,0x11,0xB0,0x5B,0x08, /* 00004720 "ID....[." */ + 0x5F,0x43,0x49,0x44,0x0D,0x48,0x53,0x4D, /* 00004728 "_CID.HSM" */ + 0x30,0x41,0x31,0x39,0x00,0x08,0x5F,0x52, /* 00004730 "0A19.._R" */ + 0x4D,0x56,0x01,0x08,0x43,0x30,0x44,0x44, /* 00004738 "MV..C0DD" */ + 0x11,0x47,0x05,0x0A,0x53,0x30,0x47,0x01, /* 00004740 ".G..S0G." */ + 0xF8,0x02,0xF8,0x02,0x00,0x08,0x47,0x01, /* 00004748 "......G." */ + 0x64,0x02,0x67,0x02,0x00,0x01,0x22,0x18, /* 00004750 "d.g..."." */ + 0x0C,0x30,0x47,0x01,0xE8,0x02,0xE8,0x02, /* 00004758 ".0G....." */ + 0x00,0x08,0x47,0x01,0x64,0x02,0x67,0x02, /* 00004760 "..G.d.g." */ + 0x00,0x01,0x22,0x18,0x0C,0x30,0x47,0x01, /* 00004768 ".."..0G." */ + 0xF8,0x03,0xF8,0x03,0x00,0x08,0x47,0x01, /* 00004770 "......G." */ + 0x64,0x02,0x67,0x02,0x00,0x01,0x22,0x18, /* 00004778 "d.g..."." */ + 0x0C,0x30,0x47,0x01,0xE8,0x03,0xE8,0x03, /* 00004780 ".0G....." */ + 0x00,0x08,0x47,0x01,0x64,0x02,0x67,0x02, /* 00004788 "..G.d.g." */ + 0x00,0x01,0x22,0x18,0x0C,0x38,0x79,0x00, /* 00004790 ".."..8y." */ + 0x08,0x43,0x31,0x32,0x39,0x00,0x14,0x38, /* 00004798 ".C129..8" */ + 0x5F,0x53,0x54,0x41,0x00,0x70,0x43,0x30, /* 000047A0 "_STA.pC0" */ + 0x41,0x41,0x00,0x0A,0x4D,0x00,0x00,0x60, /* 000047A8 "AA..M..`" */ + 0x7B,0x60,0x0A,0x40,0x60,0xA0,0x1D,0x93, /* 000047B0 "{`.@`..." */ + 0x60,0x0A,0x40,0x70,0x43,0x30,0x41,0x46, /* 000047B8 "`.@pC0AF" */ + 0x00,0x0A,0x49,0x00,0x00,0x60,0xA0,0x07, /* 000047C0 "..I..`.." */ + 0x93,0x60,0x00,0xA4,0x0A,0x0D,0xA1,0x04, /* 000047C8 ".`......" */ + 0xA4,0x0A,0x0F,0xA1,0x03,0xA4,0x00,0x14, /* 000047D0 "........" */ + 0x42,0x05,0x5F,0x44,0x49,0x53,0x00,0xA0, /* 000047D8 "B._DIS.." */ + 0x0A,0x93,0x5F,0x53,0x54,0x41,0x0A,0x0D, /* 000047E0 ".._STA.." */ + 0xA4,0x00,0x43,0x30,0x41,0x46,0x0A,0x02, /* 000047E8 "..C0AF.." */ + 0x0A,0x49,0x00,0x00,0x43,0x30,0x41,0x46, /* 000047F0 ".I..C0AF" */ + 0x0A,0x02,0x0A,0x4A,0x00,0x00,0x43,0x30, /* 000047F8 "...J..C0" */ + 0x41,0x46,0x0A,0x03,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x70, /* 00004800 "AF.....p" */ + 0x0D,0x45,0x78,0x69,0x74,0x20,0x6F,0x66, /* 00004808 ".Exit of" */ + 0x20,0x5F,0x44,0x49,0x53,0x20,0x69,0x6E, /* 00004810 " _DIS in" */ + 0x20,0x6D,0x6F,0x64,0x65,0x6D,0x64,0x65, /* 00004818 " modemde" */ + 0x76,0x2E,0x61,0x73,0x6C,0x00,0x5B,0x31, /* 00004820 "v.asl.[1" */ + 0xA4,0x00,0x14,0x0B,0x5F,0x50,0x52,0x53, /* 00004828 "...._PRS" */ + 0x00,0xA4,0x43,0x30,0x44,0x44,0x14,0x48, /* 00004830 "..C0DD.H" */ + 0x08,0x5F,0x53,0x52,0x53,0x01,0x5F,0x44, /* 00004838 "._SRS._D" */ + 0x49,0x53,0x8C,0x68,0x0A,0x02,0x43,0x31, /* 00004840 "IS.h..C1" */ + 0x32,0x41,0x8C,0x68,0x0A,0x03,0x43,0x31, /* 00004848 "2A.h..C1" */ + 0x32,0x42,0x8B,0x68,0x0A,0x11,0x43,0x30, /* 00004850 "2B.h..C0" */ + 0x44,0x46,0x82,0x43,0x30,0x44,0x46,0x60, /* 00004858 "DF.C0DF`" */ + 0x76,0x60,0x79,0x60,0x0A,0x04,0x60,0x70, /* 00004860 "v`y`..`p" */ + 0x43,0x31,0x32,0x42,0x61,0x7B,0x61,0x0A, /* 00004868 "C12Ba{a." */ + 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0x22,0x08,0x00,0x79,0x00,0x8C,0x43,0x30, /* 000048E0 ""..y..C0" */ + 0x39,0x39,0x0A,0x02,0x43,0x31,0x32,0x41, /* 000048E8 "99..C12A" */ + 0x8C,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x39,0x0A,0x03,0x43, /* 000048F0 ".C099..C" */ + 0x31,0x32,0x42,0x8B,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x39, /* 000048F8 "12B.C099" */ + 0x0A,0x0B,0x43,0x31,0x32,0x43,0x8B,0x43, /* 00004900 "..C12C.C" */ + 0x30,0x39,0x39,0x0A,0x11,0x43,0x30,0x44, /* 00004908 "099..C0D" */ + 0x46,0xA0,0x26,0x92,0x93,0x5F,0x53,0x54, /* 00004910 "F.&.._ST" */ + 0x41,0x0A,0x0D,0x70,0x00,0x43,0x31,0x32, /* 00004918 "A..p.C12" */ + 0x42,0x70,0x00,0x43,0x31,0x32,0x41,0x70, /* 00004920 "Bp.C12Ap" */ + 0x00,0x43,0x31,0x32,0x43,0x70,0x00,0x43, /* 00004928 ".C12Cp.C" */ + 0x30,0x44,0x46,0xA4,0x43,0x30,0x39,0x39, /* 00004930 "0DF.C099" */ + 0x70,0x43,0x30,0x41,0x46,0x00,0x0A,0x4A, /* 00004938 "pC0AF..J" */ + 0x00,0x00,0x60,0x7B,0x60,0x0A,0xF0,0x61, /* 00004940 "..`{`..a" */ + 0x7A,0x61,0x0A,0x04,0x61,0x79,0x01,0x61, /* 00004948 "za..ay.a" */ + 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0x82,0x41,0x04,0x43,0x31,0x30,0x37,0x08, /* 000049C0 ".A.C107." */ + 0x5F,0x48,0x49,0x44,0x0D,0x50,0x4E,0x50, /* 000049C8 "_HID.PNP" */ + 0x30,0x43,0x30,0x44,0x00,0x14,0x2C,0x5F, /* 000049D0 "0C0D..,_" */ + 0x4C,0x49,0x44,0x00,0x5B,0x23,0x5F,0x47, /* 000049D8 "LID.[#_G" */ + 0x4C,0x5F,0xFF,0xFF,0x70,0x5E,0x5E,0x2E, /* 000049E0 "L_..p^^." */ + 0x43,0x30,0x32,0x35,0x43,0x30,0x36,0x37, /* 000049E8 "C025C067" */ + 0x60,0x5B,0x27,0x5F,0x47,0x4C,0x5F,0x7B, /* 000049F0 "`['_GL_{" */ + 0x60,0x0A,0x02,0x60,0x7A,0x60,0x01,0x60, /* 000049F8 "`..`z`.`" */ + 0xA4,0x60, +}; --------------080309050800000302060704-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 09:49:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCB916A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:49:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA70143D2F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:49:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.13.2/8.13.2/d) with ESMTP id iBN9ngtV026976; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:49:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:49:42 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200412230949.iBN9ngPt026975@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: pauls@utdallas.edu Subject: Re: ifconfig for WLAN using WEP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:49:44 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: >--On Monday, December 20, 2004 11:21:01 AM -0600 Scott Bennett > wrote: >> >> I wasn't combining them. Here's some background information: the >> only "connected" interface at the time of the ifconfig shown above is the >> loopback. The ethernet interface is "UP" but not physically connected to >> anything. The wireless interface is not "UP" and not previously >> configured for anything. >> As I wrote before, the problem is that *any* WEP-related terms given >> to the ifconfig command result in the error message being returned. >> >You'll get that error message if you try to use wep commands on a >non-wireless interface. I wonder if your system is detecting the wireless >NIC and has the correct drivers for it? fwe0 should be a ethernet over As it turns out, this was the right question to ask, for which I thank Paul. >firewire interface. What type of wireless NIC are you using? Your >wireless interface should be something like an0 or wi0, etc. > Apparently, FreeBSD is detecting the infrared port (and assigning it network interface characteristics), which is disabled in the BIOS, but FreeBSD bypasses the BIOS at a very early stage. Windows XP Home Edition sees three interfaces displayed as: Network Connections Broadband [check] Broadband Connection Disconnected WAN Minport (PPPOE) LAN or High-Speed Internet [x] Local Area Connection Network Cable Unplugged Broadcom 570x Gigabit Integrated Contr 1394 Connection Disabled 1394 Net Adaptor Wireless Network Connection Connected Dell Wireless WLAN 1450 Dual Band W I interpret the above as meaning that the "Broadband" interface is the dial-up interface, the "Local Area" interface is the real Ethernet interface (not connected physically), the 1394 interface is the infrared port as Ethernet- over-FireWire (fwe0), and the Dell 1450 card is indeed the wireless interface. Looking through the boot messages from FreeBSD 5.2.1, I don't see anything that looks like the Dell wireless card being detected. I've looked through all the man pages for the various interface types and haven't seen anything that looks appropriate. If anyone reading this can suggest what to do next, please do. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 10:05:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E6E16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:05:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from male.aldigital.co.uk (male.thebunker.net [213.129.64.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D979343D45 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:05:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by male.aldigital.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B5797741; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:05:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1])iBNA5ElA088010; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:05:14 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <41CA9853.6030405@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:05:07 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041213) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Marella References: <3B5700417F70BA4CA7D2EA98375EF64003157033@CAUUNI2K000MSG.unibanco> <41C7F33B.7000509@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20041222141819.2fc5e93e@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20041222141819.2fc5e93e@localhost> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3DDCA17CDE186DF098BA8231" cc: Marcio Cardenuto Mallavazzi cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:05:20 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3DDCA17CDE186DF098BA8231 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert Marella wrote: > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:56:11 +0000 > Matthew Seaman wrote: > > >> 5.3-STABLE is a moving target from the RELENG_4 development branch. >> It should run stably and it can be used usefully as a desktop system >>or whatever, but tracking -STABLE is not recommended for *absolutely has >>to be up 24x7* type applications, because new functionality and support >>for new hardware will be introduced, which can result in problems >>occasionally. (In practice this very rarely happens: which is a great >>tribute to the degree of care taken by FreeBSD developers). Err... Um... I hope you all noticed the deliberate misteak. Of course it's the RELENG_5 branch for 5.3-STABLE. > If one is *tracking* 5.3-STABLE on a non-critical system and is subscribed > to the stable mailing list, how does one know when to cvsup and build world? > I have not seen anything on the list to indicate I should update my source. > > I have seen that 5.3-RELEASE is now P2 but nothing about STABLE. Should I > be doing it regularly (weekly, daily)? Or did I just miss something? > > Thank you for this and all of your previous posts. I look forward to > seeing your name as a poster for I know it will be another learning > experience. You should certainly be subscribed to freebsd-security@... or freebsd-announce@... so you get notification of any new security alerts. Any security fixes that go into one of the -RELEASE branches will also go into -STABLE, so doing a cvsup+buildworld cycle will get you the fixes. Otherwise, if you're particularly interested, you can subscribe to one of the cvs-foo@... mailing lists and see all of the commits going into the tree, or you can just cvsup(1) regularly (but not necessarily buildworld at the same time) and watch the cvsup output to see if there have been commits to part of the system that particularly interest you. Or you can just decide to update daily or monthly or at whatever frequency suits you best, as well as updating when ever a security alert appears that affects you. Unless there's a particular bug that's been affecting you, there really isn't any /necessity/ to update. However, it can be a useful exercise to help you keep in touch with current areas of work, and it helps the developers if you can report any problems with an up-to-date system. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK --------------enig3DDCA17CDE186DF098BA8231 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQcqYWpr7OpndfbmCAQIQywP+KML8IvYtEgQ7HTqB16Mv1lCxasSCgpFZ VcDOSEGRFCyexkkbj+tKTwKOCMDYEpsCh1i6pcIC0PlY/ifxKOk+uDf8P6jUMMpR LL7A6/yOQ67H5/0qOibku6UFsiv04GM46PDYsaKlRhtnm8ZNq35LLeSmevsRBnOP zPWh+rR258g= =Ec8o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig3DDCA17CDE186DF098BA8231-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 10:08:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AF016A512 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:08:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from f31.mail.ru (f31.mail.ru [194.67.57.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE5043D55 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:08:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chaos71@mail.ru) Received: from mail by f31.mail.ru with local id 1ChPtu-000DOL-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:08:54 +0300 Received: from [217.119.83.132] by win.mail.ru with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:08:53 +0300 From: Vladimir Chernykh To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 X-Originating-IP: 192.168.7.41 via proxy [217.119.83.132] Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:08:53 +0300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Subject: Problems with RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Vladimir Chernykh List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:08:57 -0000 I've set RAM 640 Mb. I've corrected file GENERIC - inserted line: options MAXMEM="(640*1024)". Then run the follow commands: configure GENERIC, make depend and make install. I reboot computers. But system write, that real memory is 128 Mb. Why? Processor Pentium III-350Mh, OS FreeBSD-4.7. The memory is determened by BIOS correctly. Truly yours, Vladimir From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 10:34:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4F716A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:34:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD30B43D2D for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:34:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) iBNAYbv59849; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:34:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , , "Troy Mills" Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:34:37 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200412230046.39559.jaymo@cromagnon.cullmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: The FreeBSD Foundation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:34:41 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jay Moore > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 10:47 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Troy Mills > Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Foundation > > > On Wednesday 22 December 2004 11:02 am, Troy Mills wrote: > > > > As some of you may or may not know the FreeBSD Foundation supports the > > FreeBSD developers financially via funds mainly from donations from > > the public. Anyway there is a IRS "1/3rd test" for "public support" > > and the current foundation ratio that is a little out of whack due to > > a few generous people donating large sums of money. I have no idea > > what will happen if they cannot remain a public charity but I'm sure > > the affects wont be positive as they clearly stated that it is in > > there interest to remain a public charity. > > > > I'm in no position to be shelling out lots of money right now but I'm > > going to do my part and I would hope that some of you chip in as well. > > from my understanding they need a larger number of people donating a > > smaller amount to correct the ratio. > > > QUESTION: Do sales of the FreeBSD CDs support the project? And if so, now? > > I thought I _was_ supporting the project through my CD > subscription... I was > not aware of the FreeBSD Foundation (thanks for the enlightenment), but > financial support for software developers of any kind seems a bit of a > stretch for a "charity". Perhaps I'm just not in tune with the legal > definition of a charity. > Hi Jay, The short answer to your question is "it depends on who you buy your CD's from" If you are buying them from http://www.freebsdmall.com then yes, they have provided significant support in the past and still do - in February 2004 they contributed $5K to The FreeBSD Foundation - and in the past, years ago when they were Walnut Creek CDROM they contributed far more support to the Project. If your buying from someone else that presses their own CD's then the answer is "maybe". You would have to ask them. Keep in mind though that support comes in many forms other than just kicking money into a pot. Far more valuable is time spent answering questions. You might consider this for example - If you ever purchased my book you supported me, I in turn have answered numerous questions people have posted on the mailing lists, and have e-mailed me. For the people I've helped my assistance has been far more valuable to them than any money that anyone has contributed to the project. Now, as for the Foundation's status as a charity: I'll start with asking you a simple question: Setting aside the legal definitions, what in your mind IS a charity, exactly? Well, to a lot of people, a charity is simply a kind of accepted Robin Hood - it takes from the (willing) rich and gives to the poor and needy. But, this narrow definition isn't the dictionary definition of a charity, and it really isn't the general definition of a charity either. For example, take the Catholic Church. This is legally and in many people's eyes morally, a charity. Yet, while Catholic churches run ministries that help the poor, the Catholic Church is by no means giving everything it has to the poor - it's accounted the wealthiest organization on the face of the Earth, for starters, and there are many thousands of projects that Catholics do that aren't ministering to the poor and needy, but rather projects that are for the public good that benefit the general public. My definition of a charity, and the dictionary definition of a charity, is that a charity is an organization that administers a pot of money and talent that they dole out to not just needy people, but to people and groups that do what you call Good Works - that is, benevolent projects that have as sole purpose the benefit of the general public - ie: us. So on to your question about why are we paying software developers? Well it's like this. There are things that are part of FreeBSD that need to be done and have as a benefit, the entire FreeBSD project, and in fact, anyone who uses FreeBSD. And, as FreeBSD moves more and more away from a pure "hobbiest" operating system and becomes a player in the commercial sector, increasingly these things are issues with commercial software. For example, every time that one of the Ziff-Davis ragazines does yet another tired 'bake-off' contest between Windows and FreeBSD, somebody from the FreeBSD camp must spend a lot of time hand-holding the moron writers that write the bake-off articles. Who is that person going to be? Will it be some young, but inexperienced FreeBSD advocate who is very eager to do it and will do it for free? Or will it be some experienced FreeBSD person who's time is expensive, and in order to do it will have to tell paying clients to wait an extra week? Which one of these people do you think is going to help FreeBSD score higher? Software companies that are contemplating porting their commercial projects to UNIX versions, they read these tired bake-off contests. And they aren't going to spend money on an operating system that is represented in these articles as an unsupported, unreliable, operating system. The long and short of it is that BSD in general survives due to code and assistance rendered by the software industry, specifically commercial producers. If the industry didn't provide jobs for thes developers they wouldn't have the time to work on FreeBSD. Some of these commercial software companies have products that depend on FreeBSD and when there is a problem in FreeBSD these companies pay for the time that developers spend fixing FreeBSD problems. So, to keep these commercial consumers happy with FreeBSD, the Project needs to meet them halfway. For example the port of the Sun JDK to FreeBSD. I don't honestly think that there is a developer in the world who doesen't work for Sun that really wants to spend their free time fixing bugs in Sun's Java code, to get it to run on FreeBSD. Even Sun's developers don't want to do this dirty work. But if it's going to get done someone has to do it, so that is why the FreeBSD Foundation exists - to step in and pay for development when completing a project like the JDK port has a clear and obvious benefit to the public good. That pretty much defines a charity, don't you think? Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 10:35:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF1516A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:35:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web15302.mail.bjs.yahoo.com (web15302.mail.cnb.yahoo.com [202.43.216.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C6C443D49 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:35:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beatlelittle@yahoo.com.cn) Message-ID: <20041223103502.90749.qmail@web15302.mail.bjs.yahoo.com> Received: from [220.194.103.228] by web15302.mail.cnb.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:35:02 CST Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:35:02 +0800 (CST) From: cm c To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: How to use module reference in FBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:35:06 -0000 Kernel seems do not do it automatically. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? עһƷʵŻѵ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 11:09:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2BEB16A4CF for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:09:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4179043D66 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:09:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) iBNB96v59950; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:09:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Lane" , Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:09:06 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200412222017.37077.lane@joeandlane.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: FreeBSD as a DSL modem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:09:09 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Lane > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 6:18 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: FreeBSD as a DSL modem? > > > Hello Beastie! > > If I hadn't told you lately, I LOVE YOU! > > Here's my question: Is it possible to configure FreeBSD (5.3) to > ACT as a DSL > modem? > > I use an Efficient Networks SpeedStream 5360, using PPoE. But > I've had to > replace the modem more than once. Currently everything is > working nicely, > but I'm anxious about the next failure. > > What I'd like to do is setup a PC to act as router, firewall, AND dsl > intermediary so that I can put my working DSL modem on the shelf for > emergencies. > > Any pointers are appreciated. First of all, the SpeedStream 5360 is a dumb DMT bridge, any DSL modem with the same chipset will work if you set it to the same VPI/VCI that your provider uses. For example a Westell DSL modem model B90-36R516-01 would probably work perfectly. Secondly, a query for "speedstream 5360" turned up over 50 of them for sale on Ebay, at least half of which were running under $10. Lastly, in order to decode the ADSL signal from the phone line you need an ADSL modem chipset. That chipset is only to be found in a DSL modem. It is not standard on a computer PC motherboard. Now, as for a PPPoE endpoint, you can easily setup your FreeBSD system for this. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 11:27:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8025C16A4CE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:27:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ninja.terrabionic.com (ninja.terrabionic.com [213.187.181.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E671643D48; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:27:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johann@terrabionic.com) Received: by ninja.terrabionic.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8D7633C; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:27:32 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:27:31 +0100 From: jsha To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD ninja.terrabionic.com 5.3-STABLE i386 X-Location: Bergen, Norway, Europe Subject: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:27:36 -0000 --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hello. I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes and users to the rest of the world. Being an architect as well as graphic designer, I feel it is about time for a complete revamp of the visual aesthetics of the FreeBSD project. The current logo and everything pertaining to it has long since lost its modern touch. I believe that if this image is strenghtened, so is the way outsiders view the FreeBSD project and the way they would judge it compared to other open source operating systems. 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very disappointed when I heard that the new NetBSD logo was in effect. 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being ugly. 3. The installation, even though it's text-only, could also be improved by simple restructuring to act more cognitive and human-centered than previously. Everything pertaining to the eye is important to improve. 4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead available to all that support this project. How do I know though, that if I manage to pull together a team to work on this refined vision, that we won't be totally ignored even though we produce the most magnificent result? Anyone that are interested, please reply ;-) Sincerely, Johann Manaf Tepstad -- j. --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFByqujeF7Rq67IV2wRAlKUAKCl2+j0nGxHSCaA6vVuaKHmWS329ACg38yh cyKa7Mugay7SWji/RX22aIk= =zolu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 11:54:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE72216A4CF for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:54:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A0D43D55 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:54:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bdaniel7@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so107768rnf for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:54:31 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=MvORpV7z2gniQZSx2P/HR7rVn2vOxqzlh6fiuDbpk/6hF1ovLVKoEyyDub83qcyWSlMPW8YgTWJkvOdiQAXz9mou6WRFG/eeSCpxcxbCiHfAuktHtMlwUrrHVZya8OScqLH3iPUEZRZIXwhmCQgn4IrLcgVmLChjcaplESkaPfs= Received: by 10.39.3.42 with SMTP id f42mr476819rni; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.104.1 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:54:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:54:31 +0200 From: Daniel Blendea To: jsha In-Reply-To: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Blendea List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:54:33 -0000 1. bu**s**it, Beastie is **COOL** and would be a loss of identity if the logo would change; Dear Sir, please read the page where what greek daemons are explained.. 2. again, bu**s**it, the colors are not ugly at ALL, - and i'm not a fan of site's color theme coz i prefer blue-ish colors - again, think about identity...whenever one FreeBSD'er sees the logo/colors - on software packages, media and the like - he will know that product is related to FreeBSD 3. please install FreeBSD couple of times, and afterwards you'll get to install it eyes- closed.. thank you for reading and please excuse my excited tone, Daniel On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:27:31 +0100, jsha wrote: > > Hello. > > I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts > on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes > and users to the rest of the world. > > Being an architect as well as graphic designer, I feel it is about time > for a complete revamp of the visual aesthetics of the FreeBSD project. > The current logo and everything pertaining to it has long since lost its > modern touch. I believe that if this image is strenghtened, so is the > way outsiders view the FreeBSD project and the way they would judge it > compared to other open source operating systems. > > 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks > like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years > ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very > disappointed when I heard that the new NetBSD logo was in effect. > > 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD > website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its > purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign > could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being > ugly. > > 3. The installation, even though it's text-only, could also be improved > by simple restructuring to act more cognitive and human-centered than > previously. Everything pertaining to the eye is important to improve. > > 4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead > available to all that support this project. > > How do I know though, that if I manage to pull together a team to work > on this refined vision, that we won't be totally ignored even though we > produce the most magnificent result? > > Anyone that are interested, please reply ;-) > > Sincerely, > Johann Manaf Tepstad > -- > j. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 11:55:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78B116A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:55:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA3043D3F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:55:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from bsdbox.farid-hajji.net (bsdbox [192.168.254.3]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6534B88D; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:55:27 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:55:37 +0100 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: Lane Message-ID: <20041223115537.GA592@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> References: <200412222017.37077.lane@joeandlane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200412222017.37077.lane@joeandlane.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD as a DSL modem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:55:32 -0000 On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:17:36PM -0600, Lane wrote: > What I'd like to do is setup a PC to act as router, firewall, AND dsl > intermediary so that I can put my working DSL modem on the shelf for > emergencies. This is one of the things I'd like my Soekris net4801 ADSL router running RELENG_5 to do too! AFAICS, SANGOMA is a manufacturer of ADSL cards that provides FreeBSD drivers as well. Never tested them, and I don't know wether their drivers work with RELENG_5 or not. You'll have to ask them directly. http://www.sangoma.com/products/p_s518adsl-specs.htm It would be great to have that driver in the tree! Cheers and good luck! -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 11:59:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB86E16A4CE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:59:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpq3.home.nl (smtpq3.home.nl [213.51.128.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274EB43D53; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:59:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dodell@sitetronics.com) Received: from [213.51.128.136] (port=37569 helo=smtp5.home.nl) by smtpq3.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1ChRcm-0004sS-Qk; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:59:20 +0100 Received: from cc740438-a.deven1.ov.home.nl ([82.75.136.183]:3889 helo=[192.168.1.42]) by smtp5.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1ChRcl-0006DC-Bq; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:59:19 +0100 Message-ID: <41CAB316.1020107@sitetronics.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:59:18 +0100 From: "Devon H. O'Dell" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jsha References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> In-Reply-To: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:59:25 -0000 jsha wrote: > Hello. > > I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts > on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes > and users to the rest of the world. > > Being an architect as well as graphic designer, I feel it is about time > for a complete revamp of the visual aesthetics of the FreeBSD project. > The current logo and everything pertaining to it has long since lost its > modern touch. I believe that if this image is strenghtened, so is the > way outsiders view the FreeBSD project and the way they would judge it > compared to other open source operating systems. > > 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks > like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years > ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very > disappointed when I heard that the new NetBSD logo was in effect. > > 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD > website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its > purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign > could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being > ugly. > > 3. The installation, even though it's text-only, could also be improved > by simple restructuring to act more cognitive and human-centered than > previously. Everything pertaining to the eye is important to improve. > > 4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead > available to all that support this project. > > How do I know though, that if I manage to pull together a team to work > on this refined vision, that we won't be totally ignored even though we > produce the most magnificent result? > > Anyone that are interested, please reply ;-) > > Sincerely, > Johann Manaf Tepstad > -- > j. For future reference, arch and www probably weren't the right lists to send this to. I've removed them from my response. Please read the archives of advocacy and pay careful attention to my posts on the subject of updating the site. Please read other archives and posts for information about the installer. The FreeBSD foundation should be the only entity to have ``official'' letterhead, since it's the only official sponsor of the project, in that sense. You don't know that your work won't go in vain and here's why: 1) Lots of people are fine with it the way it is, 2) There are lots of sites that are simple. Checked google.com or sun.com lately? Linux.org? 3) This has been tried before. I tried to organize it. It didn't work. If you're really interested, do some work and please post here when you have a result. All the topics you have mentioned have been discussed to death, and the consensus is do it first, talk later. I think it's best to let this dead beast lie. Kind regards, Devon H. O'Dell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 11:59:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01B516A4D2 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:59:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E48143D54 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:59:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon.burke@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 67so966wri for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:59:30 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=E8vkXHnY0hs/WazyQ2cIR8TY1tCZJtsplHgeHiTxfF3nndXJyEPboxs6DEnpQKw3+a/datvLGKAn5zA0oKzEY6zdx8lVLHfe6H11R44xnhBBVxDUqD7zFGrYn6GHK2YBaiRaiYz6N5Trgk3hW9hcoz6DAJGKUIFyALJBxYEtYx4= Received: by 10.54.6.55 with SMTP id 55mr5892wrf; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:59:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.57 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:59:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2d7d2dd2041223035969e056d8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:59:29 +0000 From: Simon Burke In-Reply-To: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Simon Burke List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:59:32 -0000 > > 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks > like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years > ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very > disappointed when I heard that the new NetBSD logo was in effect. I would like to know how you assume that he is a representation of evil, ok he looks like a little devil char but there is more than one definition of a devil and besides he looks kind of cute. So the logo/mascot has been around a while but that doesnt warrant change. If it does then most companies in the world need to update their logos too. Also freebsd is an operating system, if the developers and such spent all this time maintaining its image rather than its OS then freeBSD would no longer be such a great operating system. > > 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD > website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its > purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign > could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being > ugly. Aesthetics are not everything, the web site does what its supposed to do. Also i actually like how it looks. A lot of people have strong feelings about all these all singing all dancing webistes. There is just no need. Keep it simple and easy to navigate around thats all thats really important. If the aesthetics really matter more than function to such people who use BSD then they would probably be not using BSD but either windows or linux, where you have a nice pretty GUI to look at all the nice pretty sites. > 3. The installation, even though it's text-only, could also be improved > by simple restructuring to act more cognitive and human-centered than > previously. Everything pertaining to the eye is important to improve. Granted the installer is not the best installer around, but the main point is that it does the job and it is pretty easy to follow in my opinion anyway. Also there are a couple of projects to my knowledge that are aiming to improve it. > 4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead > available to all that support this project. I have to ask why? why would people need such things? that i just dont understand > How do I know though, that if I manage to pull together a team to work > on this refined vision, that we won't be totally ignored even though we > produce the most magnificent result? > > Anyone that are interested, please reply ;-) -- Theres no place like ::1 Thanks, SimonB From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 12:43:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A06C16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:43:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailserv1.neuroflux.com (ns2.neuroflux.com [204.228.228.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4A343D64 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:43:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ryans@gamersimpact.com) Received: (qmail 5729 invoked by uid 89); 23 Dec 2004 12:40:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www2.neuroflux.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Dec 2004 12:40:58 -0000 Received: from 63.231.157.250 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ryans@gamersimpact.com); by www2.neuroflux.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:40:58 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <49467.63.231.157.250.1103805658.squirrel@63.231.157.250> In-Reply-To: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:40:58 -0700 (MST) From: "Ryan Sommers" To: "jsha" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:43:24 -0000 Going to reply to the whole thread so far. jsha said: > 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks > like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years Although I don't like the tone of the other replies, I agree with their sentiment, beasty is as much a part of FreeBSD as the family dog is a part of the family. > > 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD > website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its > purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign > could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being > ugly. I don't think the website is all that ugly, personally, however, a new design isn't out of the question. So long as content and navigation is somewhat preserved. I've found certain things difficult to find again when I remember that I saw them somewhere, and I've been using FreeBSD for 7 years now. > > 3. The installation, even though it's text-only, could also be improved > by simple restructuring to act more cognitive and human-centered than > previously. Everything pertaining to the eye is important to improve. This is on many people's minds, including my own. Now that the holidays are upon us I'm going to try and spend a little of my free time working on putting my ideas into code. Or, I might look again at FreeBSDIE and bsdinstaller and seeing what it would take to bring them into the tree. > > 4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead > available to all that support this project. I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behing a business card. > > How do I know though, that if I manage to pull together a team to work > on this refined vision, that we won't be totally ignored even though we > produce the most magnificent result? > If you feel it needs to be done, and you would like to work on it, more power to you! Come up with a concept design and submit it for review. I think there are definite improvments to be made in the eyes of the new-comer. I believe there is a www@ team is there not? Might try posting to that list and see what you come up with. FreeBSD survives off people spending time where they see fit. If web-dev and graphic arts is your thing and you want to contribute, I for one will give you the time to submit my opinion of your work. Daniel Blendea said: > 1. bu**s**it, Beastie is **COOL** and would be a loss of identity if > the logo would change; > Dear Sir, please read the page where what greek daemons are explained.. > > 2. again, bu**s**it, the colors are not ugly at ALL, - and i'm not a > fan of site's color theme coz i prefer blue-ish colors - again, think > about identity...whenever one FreeBSD'er sees the logo/colors - on > software packages, media and the like - he will know that product is > related to FreeBSD > > 3. please install FreeBSD couple of times, and afterwards you'll get > to install it eyes- closed.. This is hardly the way to represent and argument. There is no need to be profane at someone for expressing their ideas to aid the project. It should be encouraged. Others, please don't feed the troll. Simon Burke said: > Also freebsd is an operating system, if the developers and such spent > all this time maintaining its image rather than its OS then freeBSD > would no longer be such a great operating system. The code developers don't have to spend time on web-dev and graphics. But if there is a willing body that might not be able to work on the code but has talent in the user-interface, web-development, and graphic arts field, why not let them give their time to the project in a manner that fits their skills? Please don't bash or make light of those that contribute things other than code. Rock on doc@ team. Code or not you've done a great job. It takes many skillsets to develop and maintain a tool such as FreeBSD code is just one of them. -- Ryan Sommers ryans@gamersimpact.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 13:00:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D1916A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:00:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vs3.bgnett.no (vs3.bgnett.no [194.54.96.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF69443D46 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:00:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) Received: from amidala.datadok.no.bgnett.no (amidala.datadok.no [194.54.103.98]) by vs3.bgnett.no (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBND075n094054 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:00:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) Sender: peter@amidala.datadok.no To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> From: peter@bgnett.no (Peter N. M. Hansteen) Date: 23 Dec 2004 14:00:05 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> Message-ID: <86y8fpxj8q.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> Lines: 67 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-bgnett.no-virusscanner: Found to be clean X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:00:16 -0000 jsha writes: > 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks > like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years > ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very > disappointed when I heard that the new NetBSD logo was in effect. If you are unhappy with the logo or any other part of the material provided by the FreeBSD project, you are free to start making something you consider to be better. If you make something which is indeed superior in the views of the commiters and you make it available under an acceptable license, you might see it accepted into the project proper. However, before you start down that track, you should read up a bit on the project's and the mascot's history. > 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD > website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its > purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign > could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being > ugly. If you are unhappy with the web site or any other part of the material provided by the FreeBSD project, you are free to start making something you consider to be better. If you make something which is indeed superior in the views of the commiters and you make it available under an acceptable license, you might see it accepted into the project proper. > 3. The installation, even though it's text-only, could also be improved > by simple restructuring to act more cognitive and human-centered than > previously. Everything pertaining to the eye is important to improve. If you are unhappy with the installer or any other part of the material provided by the FreeBSD project, you are free to start making something you consider to be better. If you make something which is indeed superior in the views of the commiters and you make it available under an acceptable license, you might see it accepted into the project proper. > 4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead > available to all that support this project. > > How do I know though, that if I manage to pull together a team to work > on this refined vision, that we won't be totally ignored even though we > produce the most magnificent result? Stickers and other material is available from various sources which may or may not to some degree or other be related to the project. I think similar suggestions in the past have met with responses indicating that business cards and letterhead would be somewhat low priority items to most developers. Then again, if you make something which is indeed superior in the views of the commiters and you make it available under an acceptable license, you might see it accepted into the project proper. One thing you almost will certainly not get is any kind of blanket pre-approval, regardless of assurances that whatever you end up producing will be great. That's the way open source works - if you make something good and make it available to others, fine, it will be put to the test. Then you have a starting point, something tangible to argue for. Until you get to that point, where you can say "I made this, and I'd like to contribute it to the project", not a lot is going to happen. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ "First, we kill all the spammers" The Usenet Bard, "Twice-forwarded tales" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 13:05:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6489716A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:05:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from male.aldigital.co.uk (male.thebunker.net [213.129.64.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4401243D5D for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:05:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by male.aldigital.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FEA97684; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:05:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1])iBND5n2d090876; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:05:49 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <41CAC2A8.3040803@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:05:44 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041213) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Washington-Yule References: <41CA414A.4030309@yahoo.com.au> In-Reply-To: <41CA414A.4030309@yahoo.com.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC593587509113185EDC9048D" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bandwith info command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:05:52 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC593587509113185EDC9048D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ben Washington-Yule wrote: > What command can I use to see what is using the bandwith on my 56kbs > dialup internet connection? If you want to see what's using the bandwidth *right now*, then something like: # tcpdump -n -i tun0 (Nb. if you don't turn of DNS resolution using -n, you'll almost definitely conclude that it is DNS traffic that's eating all your bandwidth). If you prefer a more graphical interface, ethereal (ports: net/ethereal) is a good tool. Or you can use ports like tcpflow or tcpshow if the output of tcpdump isn't to your taste. If you're more concerned with monitoring usage in the long term, then look into network monitors like mrtg or nagios + nagiosstat or cricket which will produce graphs of time series data -- note, some scripting and general fiddling about will be required to make those tools display precisely what you want. Batteries not included. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK --------------enigC593587509113185EDC9048D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQcrCrZr7OpndfbmCAQIIwAQAl71j3DYvlFIoD7Im3jRowwbAXX/dh38Q ycSh8a1lVCcX9UhUT2KIXDdFB19mLB6/nb8YV/kTqtY8IhIyaU3r5GO0+Y6c4d0k WN+Rh9dFN0NNg0sF7ye2cbpsJz4NCVDQUiT4/J98JLVmU2ysd2XH6o6EiPIM4wFa 0nkhmh/RksY= =5G0a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC593587509113185EDC9048D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 13:10:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC6D16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:10:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40EA843D45 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:10:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from biancalana@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so9033wra for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:10:22 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=az9YhUNhNjNWCh2iKlINLC94MIa5gN6lhmRjewCR0N9/Yly7Zfbg7i/dSUUTTW29B9Hjy2Z1dYXnRhbVSOMPGbDE2iVnKbTR2WvNVaQfcBGmA7gFJP+Pi6cx1hsnqDJ/4JfVf9XoPliJ1Touy/zpriDYf5o8neoMJtEEMFUkiWE= Received: by 10.54.6.61 with SMTP id 61mr8021wrf; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:10:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.3.6 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:10:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8e10486b04122305102bb81865@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:10:22 -0200 From: Alexandre Biancalana To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41CA0A5B.3020107@traveller.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41CA0A5B.3020107@traveller.cz> Subject: Re: Serial ATA? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alexandre Biancalana List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:10:24 -0000 I recently installed two machines with this motherboard. The controller is supported but your Raid features not.... On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:59:23 +0100, Michal Mertl wrote: > Peterhin wrote: > > > I would like to move over to FreeBSD from Linux, only been there for a > > year. > > > > I am starting at groung zero. I have read the hardware list for 4.9 > > STABLE and > > 5.2.1 RELEASE. All I can find in 3.1 "Disk Controller with Promise > > ATA100/133 > > OEM chip (pdc20265/69) I am using a ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, > > with a > > Promise PDC20378 Raid Controller and a Western Digital Serial ATA H.D. Will > > FreeBSD work.? > > Yes. The controller is definitely supported. I'm not entirely sure about > RAID functions but they are most probably supported too. > > If you have looked at supported hardware for 5.3 you would find a link to > ata(4) manual page, which lists the controller as supported. > > It has been supported for long time but only recently (for 5.2) it got into > manual pages and even more recently it's reflected in the release > documentation (for 5.3). > > Michal > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 09:03:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF7216A4CF for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:03:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web15310.mail.bjs.yahoo.com (web15310.mail.cnb.yahoo.com [202.43.216.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8709B43D5F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:03:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beatlelittle@yahoo.com.cn) Message-ID: <20041223090310.3867.qmail@web15310.mail.bjs.yahoo.com> Received: from [220.194.103.228] by web15310.mail.cnb.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:03:09 CST Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:03:09 +0800 (CST) From: cm c To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:29:26 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: How to use module reference in FBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:03:14 -0000 Under Linux I use MOD_INC_USE_COUNT. How does FreeBSD do this job? thanks. CcM --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? עһƷʵŻѵ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 13:34:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBB216A4CE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:34:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.originative.co.uk (freebsd.gotadsl.co.uk [81.6.249.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C132543D31; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:34:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paul@mx1.originative.co.uk) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.originative.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981CE15596; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:34:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.originative.co.uk ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 85128-04; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:34:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: by mx1.originative.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B5DE015639; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:34:40 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:34:40 +0000 From: Paul Richards To: Daniel Blendea Message-ID: <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: jsha cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:34:54 -0000 On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 01:54:31PM +0200, Daniel Blendea wrote: > 1. bu**s**it, Beastie is **COOL** and would be a loss of identity if > the logo would change; > Dear Sir, please read the page where what greek daemons are explained.. Ignoring the whole beastie thing, because we've just done that whole issue, I think someone with skills other than coding taking an interest in our public image would be a good thing. >From a business perspective we look amateurish. Lots of people here don't seem to care about the outside world which reinforces the opinion that we've become a hobby OS project now. If we want to be taken seriously in the commercial world then we need to have the right image. Paul. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 13:44:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C465816A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:44:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail3.sa.chariot.net.au (mail3.sa.chariot.net.au [203.87.94.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011E643D46 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:44:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imoore@picknowl.com.au) Received: from jupiter.picknowl.com.au (jupiter.picknowl.com.au [203.87.94.38]) by mail3.sa.chariot.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id E525BA3C7C; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:14:39 +1030 (CST) Received: from daemon.foo.com (adsl-176-70.swiftdsl.com.au [218.214.176.70]) by jupiter.picknowl.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A069685C; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:14:38 +1030 (CST) From: Ian Moore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:14:22 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> In-Reply-To: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1812919.hfe63HPsCf"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200412240014.37564.imoore@picknowl.com.au> cc: jsha Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:44:43 -0000 --nextPart1812919.hfe63HPsCf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:57, jsha wrote: > Hello. > > I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts > on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes > and users to the rest of the world. > > Being an architect as well as graphic designer, I feel it is about time > for a complete revamp of the visual aesthetics of the FreeBSD project. > The current logo and everything pertaining to it has long since lost its > modern touch. I believe that if this image is strenghtened, so is the > way outsiders view the FreeBSD project and the way they would judge it > compared to other open source operating systems. > > 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks > like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years > ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very > disappointed when I heard that the new NetBSD logo was in effect. I disagree - how could anyone think beastie looks evil? I also don't think = it=20 looks like the work of a 10 year old. > 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD > website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its > purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign > could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being > ugly. > Actually, it's already been re-designed - see "The FreeBSD Foundation Web s= ite=20 Gets a New Look" article in the FreeBSD Foundation Quarterly Newsletter (it= 's =20 in the FreeBSD-Announce mailing list). I don't know how big a change it is, but we should all know very soon... > 3. The installation, even though it's text-only, could also be improved > by simple restructuring to act more cognitive and human-centered than > previously. Everything pertaining to the eye is important to improve. > I think most people agree it needs an overhaul - the hard part is actually= =20 doing it! > 4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead > available to all that support this project. Why? > > How do I know though, that if I manage to pull together a team to work > on this refined vision, that we won't be totally ignored even though we > produce the most magnificent result? > > Anyone that are interested, please reply ;-) > > Sincerely, > Johann Manaf Tepstad > -- > j. =2D-=20 Ian=20 GPG Key: http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/imoore/imoore.asc --nextPart1812919.hfe63HPsCf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBysvFfITqkXhImmIRAts/AKCmBCBgL0do0UpRYz2egqKwqS/mFQCeMeXf k8nRGw5ykd54owBP9o5g8TU= =wrr4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1812919.hfe63HPsCf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 13:49:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5509416A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:49:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00E143D53 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:49:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bdaniel7@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id y7so148621rne for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:49:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=EOjbRjkXWwbVWioDSJxK0CZRqEIT1O6/Eq4jhWV1iSbpR8s+kBszyGLJHvEwQ+k0XuialLZCNfWIQIDPSsYKqM0nGylKU1nAVYg4LZNT3w+WZyjkTRD3yKCxQxFhhM9GbcmaUxVrfmHgYQb4EXM6tNTeapOzdQg+zWV63vBmQzo= Received: by 10.38.209.72 with SMTP id h72mr9260rng; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:49:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.104.1 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:49:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <89b41e470412230549417d2584@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:49:32 +0200 From: Daniel Blendea In-Reply-To: <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Blendea List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:49:33 -0000 :) why not send a mail like the one that started the thread to RedHat and suggest to change their 'old' red hat logo, or to linux community to drop the penguin...;) On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:34:40 +0000, Paul Richards wrote: > On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 01:54:31PM +0200, Daniel Blendea wrote: > > 1. bu**s**it, Beastie is **COOL** and would be a loss of identity if > > the logo would change; > > Dear Sir, please read the page where what greek daemons are explained.. > > Ignoring the whole beastie thing, because we've just done that whole > issue, I think someone with skills other than coding taking an > interest in our public image would be a good thing. > > From a business perspective we look amateurish. > > Lots of people here don't seem to care about the outside world which > reinforces the opinion that we've become a hobby OS project now. > If we want to be taken seriously in the commercial world then we > need to have the right image. > > > Paul. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 13:56:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC7116A4CE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:56:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpq1.home.nl (smtpq1.home.nl [213.51.128.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094E543D53; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:56:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dodell@sitetronics.com) Received: from [213.51.128.133] (port=50244 helo=smtp2.home.nl) by smtpq1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1ChTSU-0000TW-4h; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:56:50 +0100 Received: from cc740438-a.deven1.ov.home.nl ([82.75.136.183]:4233 helo=[192.168.1.42]) by smtp2.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1ChTSS-000359-JH; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:56:48 +0100 Message-ID: <41CACEA0.8030704@sitetronics.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:56:48 +0100 From: "Devon H. O'Dell" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CACA1F.4010801@sitetronics.com> <20041223134801.GD786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20041223134801.GD786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:56:53 -0000 Hello, all I've scrounged up the archives of the thread the last time it was brought up, in March of 2004, when I called to initiate development for such a project. It would have been done in-hand with core@. The response was surprisingly low and the people who offered to contribute didn't really have enough time to do anything. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-advocacy/2004-March/thread.html#1163 The whole thing, including what FreeBSD wants (as a group of people, as the foundation, and as the core developers), is listed in this thread. Everybody: PLEASE READ THIS before you continue speculating on what may or may not be good. Do you have time? Great, my offer is still open to help coordinate, although I have less time for such things these days, so if you're interested, you need to be self-motivated. And you need to have time. Kind regards, Devon H. O'Dell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 14:07:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056D316A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:07:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from addr14.addr.com (addr14.addr.com [209.249.147.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C983E43D2D for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:07:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markski@addr14.addr.com) Received: from addr14.addr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])iBNE6wWj029497 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:06:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from markski@localhost) by addr14.addr.com (8.12.8/8.12.7/Submit) id iBNE6vl2029495 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:06:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 06:06:57 -0800 From: Mark To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041223060657.A28591@logik.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <41CACEA0.8030704@sitetronics.com> X-ADDRSpamFilter: Passed, probability (0%) X-ADDRSignature: 37FF997 Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:07:02 -0000 I'd be willing to contribute. I've had quite a bit of free time lately. Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 14:14:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8389516A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:14:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from male.aldigital.co.uk (male.thebunker.net [213.129.64.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A1443D1F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:14:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by male.aldigital.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B49B97745; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:14:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1])iBNEDw1j032791; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:13:59 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <41CAD2A0.1070806@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:13:52 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041213) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Astill References: <003501c4e842$2f46c830$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> <200412230809.31238.bastill@adam.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200412230809.31238.bastill@adam.com.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig2EEF4D2547A03411A9B4C321" cc: "P. B. S." cc: Joshua Lokken cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:14:02 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig2EEF4D2547A03411A9B4C321 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brian Astill wrote: > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:39 am, Joshua Lokken wrote: > >>On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:20:40 +0200, P. B. S. wrote: >> >>>How can I do that? >>>explore2fs is for ext2/3 only. >>> >>>I want to copy files from my FreeBSD filesystem (UFS2, I think?) >>>using Windows. >> >>http://us1.samba.org/samba/ >> >># cd /usr/ports/net/samba3 >># make install clean >> >>Then you can share your FreeBSD files over Samba, and have >>access to them from your Winboxen. > That's fine for two separate boxes, but has no hope whatsoever is the > Windoze and FBSD OSs are in the same box (perhaps even on the same > drive). Ah. A crucial bit of information that was missing from the original post. Standard practice in that case is to create a partition on the system with a filesystem that both OSes can read and write. Between Windows and FreeBSD that boils down to msdosfs, or in Windows-speak FAT32. (FAT12 and FAT16 are also supported, but why on earth would you want to use them if FAT32 works?) See newfs_msdos(8), fsck_msdosfs(8), mount_msdosfs(8), msdosfs(5) Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK --------------enig2EEF4D2547A03411A9B4C321 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQcrSppr7OpndfbmCAQIjZgP9EpWjCqykd01IRJJjv1614QggtNdSr3o/ FefAbt5f81nIluhDu5TSa5ZKGBhxej0TRPlDcWT2kOq23FrcpP+bm6OJEciGJ1Tl 2z1+KOmq52PvfM8s+AUzVWks/aB2g+9qVHiBbvCN2gSUIYIcFZ59ONAptCBBlMAi Q6gK5YkLZPY= =8ung -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig2EEF4D2547A03411A9B4C321-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 15:11:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B1516A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:11:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CA943D31 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:11:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from troymills@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so108740rna for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:11:14 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=JOkfrH4iYSvFBSfTeZ7bLaNc7oNugqZfUB60+QeFva2+eZsHnffWv2Rm+TvCzFe8b+anYUDZOqXkH9YwzTfbUsqJpCZ3dzWhHuT2sgL2YBZ976lUEZvgtM80kEVGR536jVzmVRN5VnCnUrURYxLf3CfM7RZCiAwCXLknY0QoX4s= Received: by 10.38.76.71 with SMTP id y71mr127350rna; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:11:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.71.18 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:11:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:11:14 -0500 From: Troy Mills To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200412230046.39559.jaymo@cromagnon.cullmail.com> Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Foundation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Troy Mills List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:11:15 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt explained it far better then I could have and I thank him for that. FreeBSD is an awesome thing indeed and one of the wonderful things is thatit is indeed free to the end user but really nothing is totally free, peoples time is worth something and the hardware they need to continue to develop is also not free. It is very easy to take things for granted. I know FreeBSD is _no where near_ going the way of the dodo but.. it can only make things so much better for everyone if everyone chipped in 5$ or whatever at least one time. Those who use this platform for there own financial gain. i.e. corporate webservers etc.. should really consider it as well. Buying CD's etc.. from freebsdmall.com really helps as well, every little thing counts!. Plus it is that time of the year! :) p.s. I'm aware that gmail destroys the 'flow' of email sometimes so I apologize in advance, nothing I can do about it. On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:34:37 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jay Moore > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 10:47 PM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Troy Mills > > Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Foundation > > > > > > On Wednesday 22 December 2004 11:02 am, Troy Mills wrote: > > > > > > As some of you may or may not know the FreeBSD Foundation supports the > > > FreeBSD developers financially via funds mainly from donations from > > > the public. Anyway there is a IRS "1/3rd test" for "public support" > > > and the current foundation ratio that is a little out of whack due to > > > a few generous people donating large sums of money. I have no idea > > > what will happen if they cannot remain a public charity but I'm sure > > > the affects wont be positive as they clearly stated that it is in > > > there interest to remain a public charity. > > > > > > I'm in no position to be shelling out lots of money right now but I'm > > > going to do my part and I would hope that some of you chip in as well. > > > from my understanding they need a larger number of people donating a > > > smaller amount to correct the ratio. > > > > > > QUESTION: Do sales of the FreeBSD CDs support the project? And if so, now? > > > > I thought I _was_ supporting the project through my CD > > subscription... I was > > not aware of the FreeBSD Foundation (thanks for the enlightenment), but > > financial support for software developers of any kind seems a bit of a > > stretch for a "charity". Perhaps I'm just not in tune with the legal > > definition of a charity. > > > > Hi Jay, > > The short answer to your question is "it depends on who you buy > your CD's from" > > If you are buying them from http://www.freebsdmall.com then yes, > they have provided significant support in the past and still do - in > February 2004 they contributed $5K to The FreeBSD Foundation - and in > the past, years ago when they were Walnut Creek CDROM they contributed > far more support to the Project. > > If your buying from someone else that presses their own CD's then > the answer is "maybe". You would have to ask them. Keep in mind > though that support comes in many forms other than just kicking > money into a pot. Far more valuable is time spent answering > questions. > > You might consider this for example - If you ever purchased > my book you supported me, I in turn have answered numerous questions > people have posted on the mailing lists, and have e-mailed me. > For the people I've helped my assistance has been far more valuable > to them than any money that anyone has contributed to the project. > > Now, as for the Foundation's status as a charity: > > I'll start with asking you a simple question: Setting aside the > legal definitions, what in your mind IS a charity, exactly? > > Well, to a lot of people, a charity is simply a kind of accepted > Robin Hood - it takes from the (willing) rich and gives to the > poor and needy. > > But, this narrow definition isn't the dictionary definition of > a charity, and it really isn't the general definition of a charity > either. For example, take the Catholic Church. This is legally > and in many people's eyes morally, a charity. Yet, while Catholic > churches run ministries that help the poor, the Catholic Church > is by no means giving everything it has to the poor - it's accounted > the wealthiest organization on the face of the Earth, for starters, > and there are many thousands of projects that Catholics do that > aren't ministering to the poor and needy, but rather projects > that are for the public good that benefit the general public. > > My definition of a charity, and the dictionary definition of a > charity, is that a charity is an organization that administers a > pot of money and talent that they dole out to not just needy people, but > to people and groups that do what you call Good Works - that is, > benevolent projects that have as sole purpose the benefit of > the general public - ie: us. > > So on to your question about why are we paying software developers? > > Well it's like this. There are things that are part of FreeBSD that > need to be done and have as a benefit, the entire FreeBSD project, > and in fact, anyone who uses FreeBSD. And, as FreeBSD moves more > and more away from a pure "hobbiest" operating system and becomes > a player in the commercial sector, increasingly these things are > issues with commercial software. > > For example, every time that one of the Ziff-Davis ragazines does > yet another tired 'bake-off' contest between Windows and FreeBSD, > somebody from the FreeBSD camp must spend a lot of time hand-holding > the moron writers that write the bake-off articles. Who is that > person going to be? Will it be some young, but inexperienced > FreeBSD advocate who is very eager to do it and will do it for free? > Or will it be some experienced FreeBSD person who's time is > expensive, and in order to do it will have to tell paying clients > to wait an extra week? Which one of these people do you think > is going to help FreeBSD score higher? > > Software companies that are contemplating porting their commercial > projects to UNIX versions, they read these tired bake-off contests. > And they aren't going to spend money on an operating system that is > represented in these articles as an unsupported, unreliable, > operating system. > > The long and short of it is that BSD in general survives due to > code and assistance rendered by the software industry, specifically > commercial producers. If the industry didn't provide jobs for > thes developers they wouldn't have the time to work on FreeBSD. > Some of these commercial software companies have products that depend on > FreeBSD and when there is a problem in FreeBSD these companies pay > for the time that developers spend fixing FreeBSD problems. > > So, to keep these commercial consumers happy with FreeBSD, the > Project needs to meet them halfway. For example the port of the > Sun JDK to FreeBSD. I don't honestly think that there is a > developer in the world who doesen't work for Sun that really wants > to spend their free time fixing bugs in Sun's Java code, to get it to > run on FreeBSD. Even Sun's developers don't want to do this dirty > work. But if it's going to get done someone has to do it, > so that is why the FreeBSD Foundation exists - to step in and pay for > development when completing a project like the JDK port has > a clear and obvious benefit to the public good. That pretty > much defines a charity, don't you think? > > Ted > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 15:31:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7910316A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:31:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.mts.ru (mx2.mts.ru [212.44.140.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E1443D2D for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:31:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tiamat@komi.mts.ru) Received: from mts.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.mts.ru (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B46F2416A for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:31:30 +0300 (MSK) Received: by mx2.mts.ru (Postfix, from userid 12347) id 822CD2418C; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:31:30 +0300 (MSK) Received: from maeko.inside.mts.ru (maeko [192.168.10.3]) by mx2.mts.ru (Postfix) with SMTP id 719002410B for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:31:30 +0300 (MSK) Received: from stella.komi.mts.ru ([10.50.1.1]) by maeko.inside.mts.ru (NAVGW 2.5.2.12) with SMTP id M2004122318312923778 ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:31:29 +0300 Received: from [10.50.1.13] (sandra.komi.mts.ru [10.50.1.13]) (user=tiamat mech=CRAM-MD5 bits=0) by stella.komi.mts.ru (MTS Komi/Smtp) with ESMTP id iBNFVR80017509; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:31:29 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from tiamat@komi.mts.ru) Message-ID: <41CAE4CF.7040508@komi.mts.ru> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:31:27 +0300 From: Alex Deiter Organization: MTS Komi User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: ru-ru, ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Siddhartha Jain , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <411E1F10.6010902@netmagicsolutions.com> In-Reply-To: <411E1F10.6010902@netmagicsolutions.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Formal (183/041220) X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Detect Soft No RBL (4/030526) X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: SysLog X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Delete only Spam ( for alarm mail to spam@mts.ru) X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 2.0.0 [0124], SpamtestISP/Release Subject: Re: Create multiple jails by copying X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:31:33 -0000 Siddhartha Jain wrote: > I created one jail in FreeBSD 4.10. Since the compile time for make > world and make distribution is too high, I copied the contents of jail1 > to jail2 this way: > jailbsd:/jails/jail1# find . | cpio -pdmv /jails/jail2 > jail1 is functional. Now, when I run: > # mount -t procfs proc /jails/jail2/proc > (No complaints/errors) > #jail /jails/jail2 jail2 10.1.1.173 /bin/sh /etc/rc > I get an error from sendmail-client, sshd, cron, sendmail cannot > chdir(/var/spool/clientmqueue/): Permission denied > Program mode requires special privileges, eg., root or TrustedUser I get same error on FreeBSD 5.3. The problem was solved change of the permission on jail directory (/jails/jail2): 0700 -> 0755. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 15:55:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1446716A575 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:55:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9485543D39 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:55:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id y7so177944rne for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:55:29 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to:x-mimeole:thread-index:message-id; b=ZNlOvwlg1TwRQLkZdgNa1Ya/OH+YTM8tD/JERWpC1Bl4Eb8xQO4gBbeNzEnKtiXdVjMzBkGyvhYuyY9GB4f1GKySwgijNzVzgEdLwuIOk2N3tOgoGwltXtNyJa387e1twttX6Wo6WOwisf5+GrkQ3yKkS98uP74PqE+whNjWpmU= Received: by 10.38.99.64 with SMTP id w64mr48845rnb; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:55:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from phoenix ([220.225.80.140]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTP id 71sm7532rnb.2004.12.23.07.55.27; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:55:28 -0800 (PST) From: "Subhro" To: "'Vladimir Chernykh'" , Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:25:21 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01C4E935.E79F6CE0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcTo135u+U37EWsFT/SPNYfWytVvcQAMBlYg Message-ID: <41caea70.21f5b84c.52b3.008d@smtp.gmail.com> Subject: RE: Problems with RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:55:30 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C4E935.E79F6CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Vladimir Chernykh > Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 15:39 > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Problems with RAM > > I've set RAM 640 Mb. I've corrected file GENERIC - inserted line: options > MAXMEM="(640*1024)". Then run the follow commands: configure GENERIC, make > depend and make install. I reboot computers. But system write, that real > memory is 128 Mb. Why? Processor Pentium III-350Mh, OS FreeBSD-4.7. The > memory is determened by BIOS correctly. > > Truly yours, Vladimir > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" There may be multiple reasons. One of them is, your RAM chips are bad. Also I haven't seen many PIII boards which support more than 512MB RAM. Also check with your motherboard manufacturer Regards S. 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(8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBNGUErP089435; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:30:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <41CAF174.4020309@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:25:24 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040929 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jsha References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> In-Reply-To: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.0 required=3.8 tests=SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on pooker.samsco.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:26:38 -0000 jsha wrote: > Hello. > > I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts > on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes > and users to the rest of the world. > > Being an architect as well as graphic designer, I feel it is about time > for a complete revamp of the visual aesthetics of the FreeBSD project. > The current logo and everything pertaining to it has long since lost its > modern touch. I believe that if this image is strenghtened, so is the > way outsiders view the FreeBSD project and the way they would judge it > compared to other open source operating systems. > > 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks > like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years > ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very > disappointed when I heard that the new NetBSD logo was in effect. > > 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD > website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its > purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign > could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being > ugly. > > 3. The installation, even though it's text-only, could also be improved > by simple restructuring to act more cognitive and human-centered than > previously. Everything pertaining to the eye is important to improve. > > 4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead > available to all that support this project. > > How do I know though, that if I manage to pull together a team to work > on this refined vision, that we won't be totally ignored even though we > produce the most magnificent result? > > Anyone that are interested, please reply ;-) > > Sincerely, > Johann Manaf Tepstad > -- > j. > If you have the time, desire, and talent to address these issues, I'd love to see the results. I'd caution about being inflamatory in your first statement, though. The logo was definitely not done by a 10 yr old with PSPro, and it has emotional significance to many people. I'd definitely like to see what your ideas are for a replacement. Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 16:26:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8603116A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:26:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from palrel10.hp.com (palrel10.hp.com [156.153.255.245]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3658943D39 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:26:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thad.butterworth@hp.com) Received: from cacexg12.americas.cpqcorp.net (cacexg12.americas.cpqcorp.net [16.92.1.72]) by palrel10.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D788C773; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:26:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net ([16.88.97.3]) by cacexg12.americas.cpqcorp.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:26:41 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:26:46 -0700 Message-ID: <2D8BB15C7B5C214F81C32D3A83B3273601D87C1E@idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: VIM Thread-Index: AcTokhb7gJjbs41YQmyPfk5WVPs1xQAeDmIg From: "Butterworth, Thaddaeus (Manpower Contract)" To: "unixadmin99" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Dec 2004 16:26:41.0688 (UTC) FILETIME=[2F5F7180:01C4E90C] Subject: RE: VIM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:26:43 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd->questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of unixadmin99 >Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 6:38 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Cc: Leon >Subject: Re: VIM > >On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:35:58 -0500 (EST), Jerry McAllister > wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > I have installed a VIM editor. >> > When I create a new file with this editor, I can't type anything. >> > What is wrong. >/usr/ports/editors/vilearn is what you need. >"Vilearn is an interactive vi tutorial. There are five short >tutorials, each a text file intended to be edited with vi". > >--=20 >~michael >_______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hi Jerry, VIM uses the pretty much the same commands as VI. To be able to type anything in you are going to need to type i (as in insert). Use the escape key to exit the insert mode which you will need to do if you are going to use any of the following commands; dd to delete lines, x to delete a single character, w to write the file, and q to quit (if you want to quit without saving changes you will need to type ! after the q command). Those are the most common commands that I use, but there are much more. The tutorial Michael mentioned will teach you everything else you need to know. Another nice package to use if you want all the advantages of VIM in a graphical interface is GVIM. This site (http://supportweb.cs.bham.ac.uk/documentation/tutorials/docsystem/build /tutorials/gvim/gvim.html) will give you a good introduction to the gvim editor. Hope that helps. Thad From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 16:28:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFE316A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:28:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail2.speakeasy.net (mail2.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51BBC43D60 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:28:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 28037 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2004 16:28:17 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Dec 2004 16:28:16 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 4746847; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:28:16 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: tethys ocean References: <235b800004122211464a2e9b94@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 23 Dec 2004 11:28:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: <235b800004122211464a2e9b94@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44brcl7zdr.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dmesg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:28:17 -0000 tethys ocean writes: > I have a problem abaout dmesg .. >=20 > whenever I said that dmesg sever give sto me some different log..=20 > such a=20 >=20 > connetsion atte=F6p to UDP 127.0.0.1:512 from 127.0.0.1:55519 >=20 >=20 >=20 > why? Because you have the "log in vain" kernel option set and=20 some kind of biff(1) functionality is trying to connect to comsat(8),=20 but you don't have comsat enabled in inetd(8). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 16:28:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5D316A4CE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:28:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from athena.softcardsystems.com (mail.softcardsystems.com [12.34.136.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C8C43D53; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:28:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sah@softcardsystems.com) Received: from athena (athena [12.34.136.114])iBNHN5fX030259; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:23:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:23:05 -0500 (EST) From: Sam X-X-Sender: sah@athena To: Paul Richards In-Reply-To: <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: Daniel Blendea cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: jsha cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:28:50 -0000 > If we want to be taken seriously in the commercial world then we > need to have the right image. Look ma, a strawman! The concern you're addressing is the sort of thing distros solved in the Linux world. Each typically has their own "image," installer, system config style, etc. More importantly for the "commercial world," though, they offer support and certification. The image alone just isn't the problem. Or a problem at all, I'd argue. Let's be honest -- if a ten-year-old made Beastie, then a mentally challenged 3-year-old made Tux (and large portions of the kernel, but I digress). Point being Johann, if the community rejects your work for the core project you can still make your own distro and release it. Give it a shot! Cheers, Sam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 16:31:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7ED16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:31:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail3.speakeasy.net (mail3.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D366943D1D for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:31:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 14148 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2004 16:31:41 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Dec 2004 16:31:41 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 9C3A844; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:31:40 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Zachary Huang References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 23 Dec 2004 11:31:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <447jn97z83.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help with installing Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:31:42 -0000 Zachary Huang writes: > I am still trying to install Java (to FreeBSD 4.8), which is needed > for Tomcat. Are the instructions at > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/java-tomcat/x60.html > outdated? > > If you follow the instructions, you cannot find the file > j2sdk-1_3_1_10-linux-i386.bin at sun.com. > > so 1). where can I find this file? or > > 2). are there other instructions on the web to go a different route? thanks. A few details of that article are outdated, but the general thrust is still correct. You should be able to install Java from the appropriate port and have it tell you which patches you need. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 16:37:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CBA16A4CE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:37:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nic-naa.net (nic-naa.net [216.220.241.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F4843D5A; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:37:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brunner@nic-naa.net) Received: from nic-naa.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic-naa.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBNCcWCl004127; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:38:32 GMT (envelope-from brunner@nic-naa.net) Message-Id: <200412231238.iBNCcWCl004127@nic-naa.net> To: jsha In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:27:31 +0100." <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:38:32 +0000 From: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: brunner@nic-naa.net cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:37:53 -0000 > I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts > on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes > and users to the rest of the world. representations are secondary to function. there are markets for which this relationship is inverted. cost of entry is in the mid-eight-figure range. > Being an architect as well as graphic designer, I feel it is about time > for a complete revamp of the visual aesthetics of the FreeBSD project. code is art, and feelings are nice. please fix ebcdic first. unicode too. > The current logo and everything pertaining to it has long since lost its > modern touch. I believe that if this image is strenghtened, so is the > way outsiders view the FreeBSD project and the way they would judge it > compared to other open source operating systems. modernity is overrated. > 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks dumb. > like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years > ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very > disappointed when I heard that the new NetBSD logo was in effect. who, other than you, cares? > 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD > website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its > purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign > could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being > ugly. break your own website please. > 3. The installation, even though it's text-only, could also be improved > by simple restructuring to act more cognitive and human-centered than > previously. Everything pertaining to the eye is important to improve. break your own loader please. > 4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead > available to all that support this project. if i give you one will you agree to do something useful? > How do I know though, that if I manage to pull together a team to work > on this refined vision, that we won't be totally ignored even though we > produce the most magnificent result? most likely. its troll's fate. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 16:45:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C623E16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:45:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp14.ha-net.ptd.net (smtp14.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.76]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D2443D39 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:45:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from whaynes@ptd.net) Received: (qmail 30555 invoked by uid 50005); 23 Dec 2004 16:44:59 -0000 Received: from whaynes@ptd.net by smtp14.ha-net.ptd.net by uid 50002 with qmail-scanner-1.20 Clear:RC:1(66.152.128.82):. Processed in 2.174207 secs); 23 Dec 2004 16:44:59 -0000 Received: from 66.152.128.82.res-pit.ptd.net (HELO walt) ([66.152.128.82]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp14.ha-net.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Dec 2004 16:44:56 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c4e90e$b7593fb0$52809842@walt> From: "Walt Haynes" To: "freebsd questions" Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:44:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2739.300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: "max one 'fat' allowed as child of whole" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:45:00 -0000 I found the following as the result of a search for the string "max = one 'fat' allowed" at the following URL: http://www.watson.org/~arr/sri-audit/src/lib/libdisk/rules.c /* * = -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- * "THE BEER-WARE LICENSE" (Revision 42): * wrote this file. As long as you retain this = notice you * can do whatever you want with this stuff. If we meet some day, and you = think * this stuff is worth it, you can buy me a beer in return. = Poul-Henning Kamp * = -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- * * $FreeBSD$ * */ #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include "libdisk.h" int Track_Aligned(struct disk *d, u_long offset) { if (!d->bios_sect) return 1; if (offset % d->bios_sect) return 0; return 1; } u_long Prev_Track_Aligned(struct disk *d, u_long offset) { if (!d->bios_sect) return offset; return (offset / d->bios_sect) * d->bios_sect; } u_long Next_Track_Aligned(struct disk *d, u_long offset) { if (!d->bios_sect) return offset; return Prev_Track_Aligned(d,offset + d->bios_sect-1); } int Cyl_Aligned(struct disk *d, u_long offset) { if (!d->bios_sect || !d->bios_hd) return 1; if (offset % (d->bios_sect * d->bios_hd)) return 0; return 1; } u_long Prev_Cyl_Aligned(struct disk *d, u_long offset) { if (!d->bios_sect || !d->bios_hd) return offset; return (offset / (d->bios_sect*d->bios_hd)) * d->bios_sect * d->bios_hd; } u_long Next_Cyl_Aligned(struct disk *d, u_long offset) { if (!d->bios_sect || !d->bios_hd) return offset; return Prev_Cyl_Aligned(d,offset + (d->bios_sect * d->bios_hd)-1); } /* /* * Rule#2: * Max one 'fat' as child of 'whole' */ void Rule_002(struct disk *d, struct chunk *c, char *msg) { int i; struct chunk *c1; if (c->type !=3D whole) return; for (i=3D0, c1=3Dc->part; c1; c1=3Dc1->next) { if (c1->type !=3D fat) continue; i++; } if (i > 1) { sprintf(msg+strlen(msg), "Max one 'fat' allowed as child of 'whole'\n"); } } /* I don't understand what this means; does it imply that you can't have a = multiple operating system with a non-FreeBSD OS ? I have Windows XP = Professional in primary partition 1 of 4 primary partitions on my hard = drive. Partitions 2 and 4 are available to accept FreeBSD but won't = because of that "max one 'fat' allowed as child of whole" message. Is = there a circumvention to this problem ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 16:47:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29CDC16A4CE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:47:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D0F43D31; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:47:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBNGpEPF089509; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:51:14 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <41CAF660.6050000@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:46:24 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040929 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sam References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=3.8 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on pooker.samsco.org cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: Daniel Blendea cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: jsha cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Paul Richards Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:47:45 -0000 Sam wrote: >> If we want to be taken seriously in the commercial world then we >> need to have the right image. > > > Look ma, a strawman! > > The concern you're addressing is the sort of thing distros > solved in the Linux world. Each typically has their own > "image," installer, system config style, etc. More importantly > for the "commercial world," though, they offer support and > certification. > > The image alone just isn't the problem. Or a problem at all, > I'd argue. Let's be honest -- if a ten-year-old made Beastie, > then a mentally challenged 3-year-old made Tux (and large > portions of the kernel, but I digress). > > Point being Johann, if the community rejects your work > for the core project you can still make your own distro > and release it. Give it a shot! > > Cheers, > > Sam The distro - vs - core release relationship is one of BSD's greatest strengths and weaknesses. It's a strength because there is no 'distro hell' like there is in linux. When you download FreeBSD, you get the same FreeBSD as everyone else; there is no confusion over how the config files are layed out, no differences in the base utilities, everything compiles the same way, etc. That is a huge benefit. But at the same time, it makes it really hard for people to branch out and experiment in the same way that a linux distro can. FreeSBIE is a good example of this happening and working, but it definitely has hurdles. Variety and competition makes the whole stronger, and at times FreeBSD seems a bit in-bred. To address this, I'm playing with ideas for changing the nature of a FreeBSD 'release' a bit to make it easier for outfits like FreeSBIE to build on top of it. Hopefully I'll have something to show for this in 6.0. Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 16:48:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E7116A4CE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:48:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp04.eresmas.com (asmtp04.eresmas.com [62.81.235.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D29F43D45; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:48:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ea1abz@wanadoo.es) Received: from [192.168.108.59] (helo=mx01.eresmas.com) by asmtp04.eresmas.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1ChW8t-0001PO-BR; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:48:47 +0100 Received: from [80.103.47.197] (helo=[80.103.47.197]) by mx01.eresmas.com with asmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1ChW8l-0006ML-8q; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:48:46 +0100 Message-ID: <41CAF6F6.9070208@wanadoo.es> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:48:54 +0100 From: Ramiro Aceves User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040926) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jsha References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> In-Reply-To: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 3.0 (+++) X-Spam-Score: 3.0 (+++) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:48:51 -0000 jsha wrote: > Hello. > > I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts > on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes > and users to the rest of the world. I am new to FreeBSD, only one month of use or so. I come from Debian GNU/Linux world and only want to say some toughts: > > Being an architect as well as graphic designer, I feel it is about time > for a complete revamp of the visual aesthetics of the FreeBSD project. > The current logo and everything pertaining to it has long since lost its > modern touch. I believe that if this image is strenghtened, so is the > way outsiders view the FreeBSD project and the way they would judge it > compared to other open source operating systems. > > 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks > like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years > ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very > disappointed when I heard that the new NetBSD logo was in effect. I really like the devil, it is nice and pleasant for me. > > 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD > website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its > purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign > could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being > ugly. The WEB is great!, I like WEBs with no images moving around! Debian WEB (www.debian.org) and FreeBSD WEB pages are simliar in aesthetics and I feel confortable. > > 3. The installation, even though it's text-only, could also be improved > by simple restructuring to act more cognitive and human-centered than > previously. Everything pertaining to the eye is important to improve. The instalation program is reasonably good , once you do a couple of installs you can do it without thinking too much. Enjoy FreeBSD. Ramiro. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 16:51:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B307216A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:51:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out.hotpop.com (smtp-out.hotpop.com [38.113.3.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EBA43D41 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:51:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from personrp@hotpop.com) Received: from hotpop.com (kubrick.hotpop.com [38.113.3.103]) by smtp-out.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 742FE12D721F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:51:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 110-ccbh-131.ccbh.upmc.edu (110-ccbh-131.ccbh.upmc.edu [128.147.110.131]) by smtp-2.hotpop.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2CBFB41E17 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:51:40 +0000 (UTC) From: Rod Person Organization: Open Source Beef To: Questions FreeBSD Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:51:54 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412231151.54083.personrp@hotpop.com> X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- Subject: Python Error, help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: personrp@hotpop.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:51:50 -0000 I'm trying to teach myself python. I installed py-ui package and I'm trying= to=20 run this example script: import pyui def onPress(button): print "the button was pressed" pyui.init(320,320,"gl") newFrame =3D pyui.widgets.Frame(10, 10, 200, 200, "hello world!") newFrame.setLayout(pyui.layouts.GridLayoutManager(3,3)) for i in range(0,9): button =3D pyui.widgets.Button("button #%s" % i, onPress) newFrame.addChild(button) =20 newFrame.pack() pyui.run() pyui.quit() I get the following Error: No module named WGL__init__ File /usr/local/lib/python2.3/site-packages/OpenGL/WGL/__init__.py, Line:2 I'm using the Eric3 IDE, also. I can't find anything in Google or MARC lists...Any help please. Thanks. =2D-=20 Rod ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If you stay the same long enough you'll be in=20 style some day again." =A0Cren Dog=20 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 16:52:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 342E816A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:52:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out.hotpop.com (smtp-out.hotpop.com [38.113.3.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6B343D2D for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:52:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from personrp@hotpop.com) Received: from hotpop.com (kubrick.hotpop.com [38.113.3.103]) by smtp-out.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 75FC9C0FFE4 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:52:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 110-ccbh-131.ccbh.upmc.edu (110-ccbh-131.ccbh.upmc.edu [128.147.110.131]) by smtp-3.hotpop.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEAD912D808B for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:52:27 +0000 (UTC) From: Rod Person Organization: Open Source Beef To: Questions FreeBSD Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:52:40 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200412231152.42075.personrp@hotpop.com> X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- Subject: Python Error, help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: personrp@hotpop.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:52:34 -0000 I'm trying to teach myself python. I installed py-ui package and I'm trying= to=20 run this example script: import pyui def onPress(button): print "the button was pressed" pyui.init(320,320,"gl") newFrame =3D pyui.widgets.Frame(10, 10, 200, 200, "hello world!") newFrame.setLayout(pyui.layouts.GridLayoutManager(3,3)) for i in range(0,9): button =3D pyui.widgets.Button("button #%s" % i, onPress) newFrame.addChild(button) =20 newFrame.pack() pyui.run() pyui.quit() I get the following Error: No module named WGL__ =2D-=20 Rod ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If you stay the same long enough you'll be in=20 style some day again." =A0Cren Dog=20 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 16:53:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C52016A4CE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:53:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailer.gwdg.de (mailer.gwdg.de [134.76.10.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B7143D41; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:53:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sfarren@gwdg.de) Received: from dfnhome222.gwdg.de ([134.76.22.222]) by mailer.gwdg.de with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1ChWCx-0003wK-H6; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:52:59 +0100 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:52:51 +0100 From: Stefan Farrenkopf To: Scott Long , jsha , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <41CAF174.4020309@freebsd.org> References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <41CAF174.4020309@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Level: / X-Spam-Report: Content analysis: 0.0 points, 6.0 required X-Virus-Scanned: (clean) by exiscan+sophie Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:53:01 -0000 --On Donnerstag, 23. Dezember 2004 9:25 Uhr -0700 Scott Long wrote: >> 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) well I love the daemon. If someone associates evil it's probably because he/she has a special cultural or religeous background. This "religeous" item has been discussed already (more than once). I do not agree that a ugly drawn animal () or a man wearing a hat () is more up-to-date than the freebsd log (regarding the image not the text part of the logo!). best wishes, Stefan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 16:55:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0222E16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:55:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18AB43D2F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:55:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F83129881 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:55:55 -0400 (AST) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 87357-04 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:55:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-222-250-144.eastlink.ca [24.222.250.144]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D7912987E for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:55:55 -0400 (AST) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9894E4A568; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:55:54 -0400 (AST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9449F4A565 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:55:54 -0400 (AST) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:55:54 -0400 (AST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041223125410.X1788@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org Subject: Effective ipfw rules for blocking MSN Messenger ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:55:57 -0000 I just setup a FreeBSD box for a router, so that I could make use of ipfw to block MSN Messenger traffic ... but I'm having a bugger of a time finding a "definitive" list of what needs to be blocked :( MSN Messenger appears to be smart enough to go *around* the usual port 1863 and onto port 80 if it needs to ... Can someone that has successfully done this using ipfw send me a list of rules, since obviously I'm not catching it :( Thanks ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 17:07:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590D716A4CE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:07:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from orchid.homeunix.org (awl227.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.27.71.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6063243D31; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:07:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (blackacidevil.orchid.homeunix.org [192.168.1.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by orchid.homeunix.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBNH44ww039913 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:07:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Message-ID: <41CAFA83.4020300@orchid.homeunix.org> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:04:03 +0100 From: Karol Kwiatkowski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ramiro Aceves References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <41CAF6F6.9070208@wanadoo.es> In-Reply-To: <41CAF6F6.9070208@wanadoo.es> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/639/Wed Dec 22 15:09:50 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on orchid.homeunix.org X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: jsha cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:07:28 -0000 Ramiro Aceves wrote: > jsha wrote: >> 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks >> like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years >> ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very >> disappointed when I heard that the new NetBSD logo was in effect. > > I really like the devil, it is nice and pleasant for me. A bit OT, but to make things clear I'd like to point out it's not the devil. It's a daemon. BSD Daemon. "Many people equate the word ``daemon'' with the word ``demon,'' implying some kind of Satanic connection between UNIX and the underworld. This is an egregious misunderstanding. ``Daemon'' is actually a much older form of ``demon''; daemons have no particular bias towards good or evil, but rather serve to help define a person's character or personality. The ancient Greeks' concept of a ``personal daemon'' was similar to the modern concept of a ``guardian angel'' --- ``eudaemonia'' is the state of being helped or protected by a kindly spirit. As a rule, UNIX systems seem to be infested with both daemons and demons." quote from: http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html Regards, Karol -- Karol Kwiatkowski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 17:21:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF1E16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:21:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.mail.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517ED43D2F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:21:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smithcam@adelphia.net) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (really [68.169.225.230]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with ESMTP id <20041223172153.LJUP5807.mta13.adelphia.net@[192.168.0.100]> for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:21:53 -0500 Message-ID: <41CAFEB0.6070204@adelphia.net> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:21:52 -0800 From: Kevin Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041221 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: complete system backup recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:21:55 -0000 Hello, I'm asking for current recommendations on how to backup my complete system (OS and all installed ports and user directories) now that i've spent quite a bit of time getting it right. i'd hate to have to reinstall everything again in the event of a drive failure. Here is my allocation: > df -k Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s2a 5948558 3071326 2401348 56% / /dev/ad0s2d 23498930 1377932 20241084 6% /home Questions: 1) Should I purchase an inexpensive drive and clone the filesystems ? If so, what is the best way to do this. Drives are inexpensive and I 20G backup drive would be fairly cheap. 2) I'm installing a DVD drive - I suppose I could make DVD backups across multiple CD's. 3) any sugs ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 17:23:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7775C16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:23:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from priv-edtnes84.telusplanet.net (defout.telus.net [199.185.220.240]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A08343D1D for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:23:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from probertm@acm.org) Received: from kant ([207.6.183.158]) by priv-edtnes84.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20041223172336.WCXC6547.priv-edtnes84.telusplanet.net@kant> for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:23:36 -0700 From: Mark Probert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:24:36 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412230924.36522.probertm@acm.org> Subject: darcs and ghc building X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:23:37 -0000 Hi .. Does anyone know what is wrong with the ghc port? When trying to build darcs, I get: ===> darcs-0.9.23 depends on executable: ghc - not found ===> Verifying install for ghc in /usr/ports/lang/ghc ===> ghc-6.2.1 is marked as broken: Does not compile on FreeBSD >= 5.x. Regards, -- -mark. (probert at acm dot org) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 17:24:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A6F16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:24:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from server.hostingcertified.com (server.hostingcertified.com [69.50.212.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E2943D3F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:24:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@haubworld.org) Received: from ip-geetel-216-21-177-193.geetel.net ([216.21.177.193] helo=Main) by server.hostingcertified.com with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ChWhc-0006Ma-Ce for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:24:41 -0700 Message-ID: <006e01c4e914$4a3520b0$c1b115d8@Main> From: "lists" To: References: <004001c4e888$fe5f20e0$c1b115d8@Main> <20041223005619.GA88565@gothmog.gr> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:24:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: haubenst@haubworld.org,hehaub@haubworld.org,hepowernet@haubworld.org,resume@haubworld.org X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.hostingcertified.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - haubworld.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: buildworld via ssh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:24:40 -0000 I did a 'make -DNOCLEAN buildworld 2>&1 blah.txt &' and it didnt work as I would have expected. It spaced it out when I looked at the processes like this make -DNOCLEAN buildworld 2 > & 1 blah.txt & So, it tried to also tried to "make 2" and failed and wrote the output to a file named "1" A redirect like this works on BSDi, not sure why it didn't in this case on FreeBSD5.2 Am I doing something wrong? BTW i now have this # ll /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/zzz total 2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1076 Dec 23 07:34 zzz.8.gz TIA -Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Giorgos Keramidas" To: "lists" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 7:56 PM Subject: Re: buildworld via ssh > On 2004-12-22 19:47, lists wrote: > > I am doing a buildworld(Rel5.2) via ssh to a remote location. I detached the > > process from my session, but I failed to > > pipe the output to a logfile. Long story short, my session was terminated > > and I am not sure if the process completed > > correctly or not. Is there any way to find out if the build was sucessful? > > If you don't mind wasting a few cycles, you can restart the build with > -DNOCLEAN and wait a bit. If the build was interrupted because of the > detach, it will resume building everything and finish a lot faster than > a full buildworld. > > Having said that, one of the last things that get built is > src/usr.sbin/zzz. You can check if /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/zzz/zzz > exists. If it does, you can probably assume the build finished > successfully. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 17:30:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9F816A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:30:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mr.tuwien.ac.at (mr2-n.kom.tuwien.ac.at [128.131.2.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7085743D1F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:30:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e0025265@student.tuwien.ac.at) Received: from webmail.zserv.tuwien.ac.at (lps.ben.tuwien.ac.at [193.170.74.11]) by mr.tuwien.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.8) with SMTP id iBNHUomD016102 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:30:50 +0100 (MET) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: V-webmail 1.5.1 ( http://www.v-webmail.co.uk/ ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:30:50 +0100 From: "Florian Hengstberger" To: FreeBSD mailinglist X-Vwebmail-Auth: e0025265@stud3.tuwien.ac.at X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Subject: ipfw - a detailed howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:30:57 -0000 hi! Can anybody recommend an in deep guide to ipfw? I googled now for a longer time and found nothing really apropriate. The FreeBSD security howto is a little short, other guides don't cover security topics. Is there something like OpenBSDs pf-docu for ipfw? Thanks a lot Florian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 17:31:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC3316A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:31:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxfep01.bredband.com (mxfep01.bredband.com [195.54.107.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B8443D48 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:31:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scode@scode-whitestar.mine.nu) Received: from scode-whitestar.mine.nu ([83.226.138.136] [83.226.138.136]) by mxfep01.bredband.com with ESMTP <20041223173137.HUKA18879.mxfep01.bredband.com@scode-whitestar.mine.nu>; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:31:37 +0100 Received: by scode-whitestar.mine.nu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 21CAC17B9DE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:38:52 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:38:51 +0100 From: Peter Schuller To: David Banning Message-ID: <20041223173851.GA81342@scode-whitestar.mine.nu> References: <20041218074349.GA58631@skytracker.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041218074349.GA58631@skytracker.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: traffic volume monitoring - what program X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:31:40 -0000 > I am looking at a new ISP that charges for a certain number > gigabites of traffic. I have -no- idea what my traffic volume > is. > > Can anyone recommend a good traffic volume checker in the > ports? I recommend setting up snmpd + rrdtool (portinstall net/net-snmp net/rrdtool). It's much easier and cleaner to configure than mrtg (in my experience). If you're interested I have a few scripts that do what you want in a basic bandwidth graphing situation for a few hosts; generating relatively sane graphs. -- / Peter Schuller, InfiDyne Technologies HB PGP userID: 0xE9758B7D or 'Peter Schuller ' Key retrieval: Send an E-Mail to getpgpkey@scode.org E-Mail: peter.schuller@infidyne.com Web: http://www.scode.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 17:34:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9369F16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:34:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20BA743D48 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:34:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id iBNHYlO29554; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:34:47 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200412231734.iBNHYlO29554@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: thad.butterworth@hp.com ("Butterworth, Thaddaeus (Manpower Contract)") Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:34:46 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <2D8BB15C7B5C214F81C32D3A83B3273601D87C1E@idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net> from "Butterworth, Thaddaeus (Manpower Contract)" at Dec 23, 2004 09:26:46 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: unixadmin99 Subject: Re: VIM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:34:56 -0000 > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd->questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of unixadmin99 > >Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 6:38 PM > >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Cc: Leon > >Subject: Re: VIM > > > >On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:35:58 -0500 (EST), Jerry McAllister > > wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > I have installed a VIM editor. > >> > When I create a new file with this editor, I can't type anything. > >> > What is wrong. > >/usr/ports/editors/vilearn is what you need. > >"Vilearn is an interactive vi tutorial. There are five short > >tutorials, each a text file intended to be edited with vi". > > > >-- > >~michael > >_______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Hi Jerry, > VIM uses the pretty much the same commands as VI. To be able to type > anything in you are going to need to type i (as in insert). Use the you seem to be following the thread wrong. I wrote the reply re a HowTo, not the question. Though, the tutorial may be a good addition. ////jerry > escape key to exit the insert mode which you will need to do if you are > going to use any of the following commands; dd to delete lines, x to > delete a single character, w to write the file, and q to quit (if you > want to quit without saving changes you will need to type ! after the q > command). Those are the most common commands that I use, but there are > much more. The tutorial Michael mentioned will teach you everything else > you need to know. > > Another nice package to use if you want all the advantages of VIM in a > graphical interface is GVIM. This site > (http://supportweb.cs.bham.ac.uk/documentation/tutorials/docsystem/build > /tutorials/gvim/gvim.html) will give you a good introduction to the gvim > editor. > > Hope that helps. > > > Thad > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 17:51:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7EDB16A4CF for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:51:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C834943D39 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:51:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scode@scode-whitestar.mine.nu) Received: from scode-whitestar.mine.nu ([83.226.138.136] [83.226.138.136]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with ESMTP <20041223175116.OLSL6820.mxfep02.bredband.com@scode-whitestar.mine.nu>; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:51:16 +0100 Received: by scode-whitestar.mine.nu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7EE2417B9DE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:58:31 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:58:31 +0100 From: Peter Schuller To: Mark Probert Message-ID: <20041223175831.GB81342@scode-whitestar.mine.nu> References: <200412230924.36522.probertm@acm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200412230924.36522.probertm@acm.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: darcs and ghc building X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:51:18 -0000 > Does anyone know what is wrong with the ghc port? When trying to build darcs, > I get: > > ===> darcs-0.9.23 depends on executable: ghc - not found > ===> Verifying install for ghc in /usr/ports/lang/ghc > ===> ghc-6.2.1 is marked as broken: Does not compile on FreeBSD >= 5.x. Without doing any investigation, I'll say that i recently installed darcs and ghc on a 5.3 system without difficulties, so it seems weird that it would be disabled. However it *WAS* a problem trying to get it to install on 5.2 due to the ghc bootstrap binary depending on a version of a library that is not in 5.2. Either something has happened which means ghc is no longer working, or perhaps it was incorrectly marked as broken due to the issue on versions below 5.3? Though - I just noticed you are installing 6.2.1. 6.2.2 is the one I have installed. Have you tried updating your ports tree? Perhaps the issue, whatever it is, is fixed in 6.2.2. -- / Peter Schuller, InfiDyne Technologies HB PGP userID: 0xE9758B7D or 'Peter Schuller ' Key retrieval: Send an E-Mail to getpgpkey@scode.org E-Mail: peter.schuller@infidyne.com Web: http://www.scode.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 17:53:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77BDA16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:53:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sampson.aptedtech.com (sampson.aptedtech.com [209.124.140.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD0E43D1D for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:53:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dhull@digitaloverload.net) Received: (qmail 11786 invoked by uid 66); 23 Dec 2004 19:10:37 -0000 Received: from dhull@digitaloverload.net by sampson.aptedtech.com by uid 60 with qmail-scanner-1.15 (sophie: 2.10/3.63. Clear:. Processed in 0.082121 secs); 23 Dec 2004 19:10:37 -0000 Received: from 209-124-142-204.olive.dsl.arctic.net (HELO tower1.digitaloverload.local) (209.124.142.204) by sampson.customcpu.com with SMTP; 23 Dec 2004 19:10:36 -0000 From: Damien Hull To: Erik Trulsson In-Reply-To: <20041223085239.GA20209@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> References: <20041221104508.1002.qmail@rahul.net> <41C8DC87.5080207@mac.com> <1103781420.16972.17.camel@tower1.digitaloverload.local> <20041223061448.GA74828@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20041223064841.18134.qmail@rahul.net> <20041223085239.GA20209@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:53:18 -0900 Message-Id: <1103824398.19000.13.camel@tower1.digitaloverload.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: UFS2 with Soft Updates Robust? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:53:22 -0000 On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 09:52 +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 06:48:41AM -0000, John Conover wrote: > > Erik Trulsson writes: > > > On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:57:00PM -0900, Damien Hull wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 21:31 -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote: > > > > > John Conover wrote: > > > > > > Is UFS2 with soft updates the most robust file system in freebsd? > > > > > > > > > > No, although UFS2 with softupdates is robust enough for production use. > > > > > > > > > > If you make the filesystem writes syncronous and disable write caching on the > > > > > hard drive, you will improve the robustness at significant cost to performance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you saying that the UFS2 file system sucks? > > > > > > Not at all, but standard IDE-drives suck when it comes to robustness. > > > (They tend to lie and tell the OS that data has been written to the > > > disk, when in reality it has only been written to the disks cache.) > > > (Thus the advice above to turn off write-caching for maximum > > > robustness.) > > > > > > If you use softupdates (on a disk that doesn't lie) the filesystem on > > > the disk will always be consistent, but data written during the last 30 > > > seconds or so might not yet have been written to the disk, and can therefore > > > be lost if e.g. the power to the computer is turned off. > > > > > > > Erik, does that mean if you use softupdates, (on a SCSI,) that, > > although file(s) currently being written may be truncated since the > > cache is not flushed, that the file system can be repaired > > automatically by fsck to a consistent state? > > That is the idea. With softupdates the filesystem *on the disk* should > always be in a consistent state, such that fsck should always succeed. > (At least that is the theory, I haven't tested how well it holds in > reality.) > > > > > > Even without synchronous writes or enabling cache write through? > > > > John > > > > BTW, the reason for the question is that most SCSIs today have many > > meg of HW cache, and many, (maybe most,) controllers don't permit > > write through anymore. So, even if the OS flushes its cache, the HW > > cache may not be written to the disk-so synchronous writes and OS > > cache write through may be of little value. > > The only cache that can mess up things is that on the disk itself. > Forget about any caches managed by the OS - they are handled by the > filesystem code and flushed when needed. > > > The cache on the disk is another matter. One difference between SCSI > and IDE is that SCSI support tagging which lets the OS determine if a > given block has actually been written to the disk or just to the disk's > cache. This is needed for softupdates to work correctly. > > On IDE-disks this information is often not available which means that > you may need to disable the write-cache on the disk (or at least make > it write-through) to be able to rely on the guarantees of softupdates. > > > A few IDE-disks and some of the newer S-ATA disks also support tagged > queueing, but support for that is not nearly as good as it is for SCSI > - not yet anyway. > > Are you saying that it's not safe to use softupdates on IDE drives? I've always used softupdates on IDE and never had a problem. However, I've never had a system that was under heave load. If lots of people are writing to the drive ( I'm thinking file server) under softupdates it sounds like something could go wrong. Lets say I have a small network of 25 users. Were going to install a file and print sever using FreeBSD 5.3 (UFS2). Because we don't have a lot of money we get SATA drives. Should I use softupdates or not? If I had more then 25 users I would consider getting SCSI. -- Damien Hull From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 18:07:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC36716A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:07:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A36743D3F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:07:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1ChXMf-0003wJ-2O; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:07:05 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:08:01 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200412231208.01174.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc49135215648133972755f7a4dbaff5a1350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: Florian Hengstberger Subject: Re: ipfw - a detailed howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:07:05 -0000 On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:30 am, Florian Hengstberger wrote: > hi! > Can anybody recommend an in deep guide to ipfw? > I googled now for a longer time and found nothing really apropriate. > The FreeBSD security howto is a little short, other guides > don't cover security topics. > Is there something like OpenBSDs pf-docu for ipfw? > > Thanks a lot > Florian > Dru Lavigne has a column called "FreeBSD Basics" at O'Reilly's ONLamp.com site. A list of (links to) the articles can be found at: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/ct/15 There is a series of articles covering IPFW -- the first was published on April 25, 2001. (The articles are listed in reverse chronological order.) While you're there, scan the list for other cool articles. By the way, if you really like OpenBSD's pf documentation, you might consider using pf in FreeBSD. It is available by default in FreeBSD 5.3; and as a port for FreeBSD 4 STABLE (/usr/ports/security/pf). The OpenBSD documentation is easily applied to FreeBSD. Best of luck, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 18:12:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF3016A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:12:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from male.aldigital.co.uk (male.thebunker.net [213.129.64.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22DA43D45 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:12:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by male.aldigital.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0338597741; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:12:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1])iBNIC6kA064354; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:12:06 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <41CB0A71.5080405@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:12:01 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041213) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lists References: <004001c4e888$fe5f20e0$c1b115d8@Main> <20041223005619.GA88565@gothmog.gr> <006e01c4e914$4a3520b0$c1b115d8@Main> In-Reply-To: <006e01c4e914$4a3520b0$c1b115d8@Main> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigECA87845D417EA1506922403" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld via ssh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:12:11 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigECA87845D417EA1506922403 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit lists wrote: > I did a 'make -DNOCLEAN buildworld 2>&1 blah.txt &' and it didnt work as I > would have expected. > It spaced it out when I looked at the processes like this > make -DNOCLEAN buildworld 2 > & 1 blah.txt & > So, it tried to also tried to "make 2" and failed and wrote the output to a > file named "1" > A redirect like this works on BSDi, not sure why it didn't in this case on > FreeBSD5.2 > Am I doing something wrong? You're typing commands using Bourne shell syntax but you're actually running tcsh(1). For Csh-alikes like tcsh, the command would be: # make -DNOCLEAN buildworld &> blah.txt & Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK --------------enigECA87845D417EA1506922403 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQcsKdpr7OpndfbmCAQIRzQQAm8QwEsyyM1nn243d6IU843CeD0p44mnA a8TJFOp9god/+QqvIQ3t9R4a5rl/pN1GtJ4Wl0gltTxOKzVdYUtbv2q3ShISdl+f aCeIQf+xh35I6PqEtaM5VzZGIdC3582uIkw1fvtFthYoRhJwUt+b5DSX1BlCXsgQ +4xRoqpcpco= =N5OY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigECA87845D417EA1506922403-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 18:20:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B493B16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:20:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BD243D1D for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:20:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 67so76004wri for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:20:10 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Nwrys1t3qXybBaNzffRroShf+Y1eFbFOt1YiCGd5siAwYzz2wM+302eFMQJWi+aiqVB8SrPu10K8+9dKJ+98F+eYTouojPVG9UxE/kocMHQl85IDz3DsWmVeXj8eSkrHFfsrPmJB6aUfQWvYAQvGYIqYO7Ah0/JPoKTpjVPgD4M= Received: by 10.54.39.79 with SMTP id m79mr198176wrm; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:20:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:20:09 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: RL In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41CA2009.5030002@krisk.org> <41CA22D0.4060104@krisk.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Switching FreeBSD machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:20:11 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:50:12 -0500, RL wrote: > It is a P4 2.8GHZ, 256MB RAM, 80GB Serial ATA hard-drive. I might > just start from scratch. I just got a bad feeling I will run into > problems. The biggest pain in the ass was getting Java to work on my > old system. Besides that, I don't have any critical on my old system > that I wouldn't mind starting from scratch again. Yes, apparently folks have had alot of trouble with java. Just to give you a confidence boost, I very recently built jdk14 on a 5.3-RELEASE machine *by the instructions*, and it built without problems, and apps were able to find it afterwards. If that's all that's keeping from starting from scratch, don't worry about java; it's not that bad. -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 18:56:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4116316A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:56:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av9-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (av9-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F1343D3F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:56:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: by av9-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 49F7837F1A; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:56:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.178]) by av9-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BCCE37F12 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:56:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h201n1fls24o1048.bredband.comhem.se [212.181.162.201]) by smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A5A937E44 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:56:51 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 951 invoked by uid 1001); 23 Dec 2004 18:54:14 -0000 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:54:14 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Damien Hull Message-ID: <20041223185414.GA939@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Damien Hull , freebsd-questions References: <20041221104508.1002.qmail@rahul.net> <41C8DC87.5080207@mac.com> <1103781420.16972.17.camel@tower1.digitaloverload.local> <20041223061448.GA74828@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20041223064841.18134.qmail@rahul.net> <20041223085239.GA20209@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <1103824398.19000.13.camel@tower1.digitaloverload.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1103824398.19000.13.camel@tower1.digitaloverload.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: UFS2 with Soft Updates Robust? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:56:54 -0000 On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 08:53:18AM -0900, Damien Hull wrote: > On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 09:52 +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 06:48:41AM -0000, John Conover wrote: > > > Erik Trulsson writes: > > > > On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:57:00PM -0900, Damien Hull wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 21:31 -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote: > > > > > > John Conover wrote: > > > > > > > Is UFS2 with soft updates the most robust file system in freebsd? > > > > > > > > > > > > No, although UFS2 with softupdates is robust enough for production use. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you make the filesystem writes syncronous and disable write caching on the > > > > > > hard drive, you will improve the robustness at significant cost to performance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you saying that the UFS2 file system sucks? > > > > > > > > Not at all, but standard IDE-drives suck when it comes to robustness. > > > > (They tend to lie and tell the OS that data has been written to the > > > > disk, when in reality it has only been written to the disks cache.) > > > > (Thus the advice above to turn off write-caching for maximum > > > > robustness.) > > > > > > > > If you use softupdates (on a disk that doesn't lie) the filesystem on > > > > the disk will always be consistent, but data written during the last 30 > > > > seconds or so might not yet have been written to the disk, and can therefore > > > > be lost if e.g. the power to the computer is turned off. > > > > > > > > > > Erik, does that mean if you use softupdates, (on a SCSI,) that, > > > although file(s) currently being written may be truncated since the > > > cache is not flushed, that the file system can be repaired > > > automatically by fsck to a consistent state? > > > > That is the idea. With softupdates the filesystem *on the disk* should > > always be in a consistent state, such that fsck should always succeed. > > (At least that is the theory, I haven't tested how well it holds in > > reality.) > > > > > > > > > > Even without synchronous writes or enabling cache write through? > > > > > > John > > > > > > BTW, the reason for the question is that most SCSIs today have many > > > meg of HW cache, and many, (maybe most,) controllers don't permit > > > write through anymore. So, even if the OS flushes its cache, the HW > > > cache may not be written to the disk-so synchronous writes and OS > > > cache write through may be of little value. > > > > The only cache that can mess up things is that on the disk itself. > > Forget about any caches managed by the OS - they are handled by the > > filesystem code and flushed when needed. > > > > > > The cache on the disk is another matter. One difference between SCSI > > and IDE is that SCSI support tagging which lets the OS determine if a > > given block has actually been written to the disk or just to the disk's > > cache. This is needed for softupdates to work correctly. > > > > On IDE-disks this information is often not available which means that > > you may need to disable the write-cache on the disk (or at least make > > it write-through) to be able to rely on the guarantees of softupdates. > > > > > > A few IDE-disks and some of the newer S-ATA disks also support tagged > > queueing, but support for that is not nearly as good as it is for SCSI > > - not yet anyway. > > > > > > Are you saying that it's not safe to use softupdates on IDE drives? I am saying that it is not safe to use IDE-drive with write-caching enabled. This holds regardless of whether you use soft-updates or not and for all operating systems and filesystems. > > I've always used softupdates on IDE and never had a problem. However, > I've never had a system that was under heave load. If lots of people are > writing to the drive ( I'm thinking file server) under softupdates it > sounds like something could go wrong. Something could go wrong, yes, but the risk is fairly small and the performance penalty when you disable write-caching is large enough that most people consider it a risk worth taking ( I certainly do.) > > Lets say I have a small network of 25 users. Were going to install a > file and print sever using FreeBSD 5.3 (UFS2). Because we don't have a > lot of money we get SATA drives. Should I use softupdates or not? Using softupdates should not hurt anything compared to not using softupdates. > > If I had more then 25 users I would consider getting SCSI. > -- > Damien Hull > -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 19:19:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A69516A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:19:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F0F43D2D for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:19:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 67so88312wri for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:19:42 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=qVuohxC4dDOTSfSgYheTviczh7WpPuMVolcLDUxs1e6ryFCI0rmGwXwnjINQe9zfCI0RYrQlkblIx4UfLbscliY2R9d9hy1FKz2prmQwjwOUvgIOKMGmfBQgMlxKay8WPjIZ9P4DgJGLOFIyeZ2F+UTb6tCilaUNwXom7mlZcpU= Received: by 10.54.6.67 with SMTP id 67mr185040wrf; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:19:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:19:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:19:42 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Zachary Huang In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help with installing Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:19:43 -0000 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:03:05 -0500, Zachary Huang wrote: > I am still trying to install Java (to FreeBSD 4.8), which is needed > for Tomcat. Are the instructions at > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/java-tomcat/x60.html > outdated? > > If you follow the instructions, you cannot find the file > j2sdk-1_3_1_10-linux-i386.bin at sun.com. > > so 1). where can I find this file? or > > 2). are there other instructions on the web to go a different route? thanks. Is there any reason you can't use jdk14 ? -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 19:34:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C9516A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:34:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B8F43D5A for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:34:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBNJYBJo091973; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:34:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBNJY9Xm019886; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:34:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iBNJY8bj019885; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:34:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:34:08 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Troy Mills Message-ID: <20041223193408.GA19673@thought.org> References: <200412230046.39559.jaymo@cromagnon.cullmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Foundation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:34:14 -0000 On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 10:11:14AM -0500, Troy Mills wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt explained it far better then I could have and I thank > him for that. > > FreeBSD is an awesome thing indeed and one of the wonderful things is > thatit is indeed free to the end user but really nothing is totally > free, peoples time is worth something and the hardware they need to > continue to develop is also not free. It is very easy to take things > for granted. > > I know FreeBSD is _no where near_ going the way of the dodo but.. it > can only make things so much better for everyone if everyone chipped > in 5$ or whatever at least one time. Those who use this platform for > there own financial gain. i.e. corporate webservers etc.. should > really consider it as well. Buying CD's etc.. from freebsdmall.com > really helps as well, every little thing counts!. > if the freebsdfoundation set up a paypal button and asked $5, i'd chip in my niickle. i bet at least thousands of others would too. "season's greeting:)", everbody, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 19:37:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE6C16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:37:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailer.gwdg.de (mailer.gwdg.de [134.76.10.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0C543D2F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:37:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sfarren@gwdg.de) Received: from dfnhome222.gwdg.de ([134.76.22.222]) by mailer.gwdg.de with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1ChYlx-0002nz-Qe for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:37:18 +0100 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:37:16 +0100 From: Stefan Farrenkopf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1BE28C962CDB9C1F9E0EBBF7@[192.168.100.102]> In-Reply-To: <41CAFA83.4020300@orchid.homeunix.org> References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <41CAF6F6.9070208@wanadoo.es> <41CAFA83.4020300@orchid.homeunix.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Level: / X-Spam-Report: Content analysis: 0.0 points, 6.0 required X-Virus-Scanned: (clean) by exiscan+sophie Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:37:19 -0000 --On Donnerstag, 23. Dezember 2004 18:04 Uhr +0100 Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: > A bit OT, but to make things clear I'd like to point out it's not the > devil. It's a daemon. > BSD Daemon. Sure, you are right it's a daemon; I used "devil" because of it's relation to (d)"evil". regards, Stefan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 19:43:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FFD16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:43:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6188A43D46 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:43:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from icefragment@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so187964rne for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:43:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cj33m+rkc+UFxwSIDwiYetw+ZH+ep2nRO82Hrv1zRhsIUaSoJIIyw+aJgh3/5UL4VDTIoGjkc/5U18S2F5fxNolf8NMgANPVR264xbIFBtzE6JDvgylHqIDnFN4gxhw8e6H1j+y5/cyr0tct+6yBQbC9C/pdnDdnS2PbUyd07t8= Received: by 10.38.102.63 with SMTP id z63mr103686rnb; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:43:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.207.41 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:43:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <842a160c041223114333841e00@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:43:11 -0500 From: ice To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: dc driver pagefaults on bootup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ice List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:43:12 -0000 I have the 5.2.1 CD. When I boot up, I can get to the installation boot menu. I choose option 1 and the kernel starts up. It crashes with a page fault in kernel mode. This is the text right above the page fault message: device 18.0 on pci0 pci_cfgintr_virgin: using routable interrupt 4 pci_cfgintr: ROUTE_INTERRUPT failed. dc0: couldn't map interrupt I think it's an IRQ conflict. Any ideas? -- 43rd Law Of Computing: Anything that can go wro

sig: segmentation fault: core dumped From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 19:54:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56E716A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:54:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDBE43D53 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:54:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so56750wra for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:54:55 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=s6QewO2U6W9eTLd+EXo254KtGS17FU9eqMaO2fiq9RKcxjKlAufPVs2dNsjtjDtFswKmXFXfMoqaOXGdYWdwFuguAj1MispzBL4J4qnlww6dtROKnrRHhAdg+D0AsfksjuTcHdKHM9KcALZMPrHg2Kgo/O5fJYqC4zZ+JqHwNHw= Received: by 10.54.6.43 with SMTP id 43mr183897wrf; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:54:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:54:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:54:55 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: lists In-Reply-To: <006e01c4e914$4a3520b0$c1b115d8@Main> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <004001c4e888$fe5f20e0$c1b115d8@Main> <20041223005619.GA88565@gothmog.gr> <006e01c4e914$4a3520b0$c1b115d8@Main> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld via ssh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:54:56 -0000 On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:24:38 -0500, lists wrote: > I did a 'make -DNOCLEAN buildworld 2>&1 blah.txt &' and it didnt work as I > would have expected. > It spaced it out when I looked at the processes like this > make -DNOCLEAN buildworld 2 > & 1 blah.txt & > So, it tried to also tried to "make 2" and failed and wrote the output to a > file named "1" > A redirect like this works on BSDi, not sure why it didn't in this case on > FreeBSD5.2 > Am I doing something wrong? > > BTW i now have this > # ll /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/zzz > total 2 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1076 Dec 23 07:34 zzz.8.gz >From this reference, it looks like the syntax should be: (for sh and friends, not csh): # make -DNO_CLEAN buildworld file.txt 2>&1 & Works on my system ;) http://wks.uts.ohio-state.edu/unix_course/intro-69.html -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 19:59:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D5F16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:59:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C078543D45 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:59:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so57195wra for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:59:05 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=idyHuCMFdUxIz4RJG5D6c1ycNV/lVj7Q6h/vXYqFdJd19e4bth0xRxsCyyJ1peG58q+6LScLAQDPySDQJwwpQPaWWDoiK8TPxzzlKZ+JvkbY+QMt+E8fCPL5Lpit0VB3a/vISLax1ZL506EZhniz30OQ2nfea28PRUk+urCoycE= Received: by 10.54.6.43 with SMTP id 43mr185351wrf; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:59:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:59:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:59:05 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Florian Hengstberger In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: cc: FreeBSD mailinglist Subject: Re: ipfw - a detailed howto X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:59:06 -0000 On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:30:50 +0100, Florian Hengstberger wrote: > hi! > Can anybody recommend an in deep guide to ipfw? Yes. 'man ipfw(8)' If that's not in-depth enough for you, I don't know what would be ;) -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 20:03:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D19016A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:03:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.revolutionsp.com (ganymede.revolutionsp.com [64.246.0.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085B743D39 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:03:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from security@revolutionsp.com) Received: from mail.revolutionsp.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.revolutionsp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC34815C96 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:58:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from 81.84.175.77 (SquirrelMail authenticated user security@revolutionsp.com); by mail.revolutionsp.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:58:51 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <58558.81.84.175.77.1103821131.squirrel@81.84.175.77> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:58:51 -0600 (CST) From: security@revolutionsp.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: ports resetting filesystem permissions everywhere X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:03:29 -0000 Hey list, A lot of ports I install will end up setting to the default permissions various directories (/usr/local/sbin, /usr/local/www, / , ...) depending on which port I'm installing. This is annoying as I have to set them to the permissions I use over and over again. I think the relation is with the /etc/mtree files, so my questions are the following: - Is the permission resetting really related to the /etc/mtree/BSD.* ? - If it is, what other choice other than editing these files do I have? I'd like, if possible, a solution that doesn't involve changing these files, as they'll be overwritten whenever I want to upgrade the system or upgrade the src. Please cc me, I'm not in the list. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 20:07:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F3716A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:07:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7F343D1D for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:07:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jayobrien@worldnet.att.net) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (dsl093-180-184.sac1.dsl.speakeasy.net[66.93.180.184]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with ESMTP id <20041223200757113005pip7e> (Authid: jayobrien@att.net); Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:07:57 +0000 Message-ID: <41CB259C.6080001@att.net> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:07:56 -0800 From: Jay O'Brien User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200412230046.39559.jaymo@cromagnon.cullmail.com> <20041223193408.GA19673@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20041223193408.GA19673@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Foundation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:07:58 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: >if the freebsdfoundation set up a paypal button and asked >$5, i'd chip in my niickle. i bet at least thousands of others >would too. Go to: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donating.shtml and click on donate. I did, using PayPal. Jay O'Brien Rio Linda, California, USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 20:16:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C0C16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:16:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web80803.mail.yahoo.com (web80803.mail.yahoo.com [66.163.170.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 40DF843D2F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:16:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cmc3list-bsdnews@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20041223201607.18926.qmail@web80803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [192.35.232.241] by web80803.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:16:07 PST Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:16:07 -0800 (PST) From: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: freebsd-users list - semi regular post X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: cmc3list-bsdnews@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:16:07 -0000 FreeBSD Users is a small (too small, so far :-)) informal mailing list for people who use FreeBSD. The list is not meant to compete with the formal FreeBSD lists, but to be a place for people who like to use FreeBSD to hang out, ask questions, talk about what interests them with FreeBSD. Think of it as the users group your town doesn't have :-). To join: http://www.whee.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-users I'll try to post here at least monthly. Email me if you have questions or comments. ===== Christopher Mark Conn http://storm.cadcam.iupui.edu/~cmcgoat Austin, Texas, USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 20:20:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C7A16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:20:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB50B43D5A for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:20:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hpxchan@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so133717wri for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:20:26 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qu4RS7qfAQGZsoGQLzCgYrzcfltNURPU5sLwBEGNr/XD3G5/E6pR99eej3zkWM99WkhQbqEjNCdF3kOqasesP4UTZPgOegfbpUglkSsFqogo/AAMQdtL/C+6OWCpy6vDORAeeeGfu6flLXrPPqWtENc8YYEql+o6sVsjLlqLVIA= Received: by 10.54.38.25 with SMTP id l25mr226599wrl; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:20:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.26.29 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:20:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f77d33304122312203ecd1c49@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:20:26 -0800 From: Chandler May To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: checksum mismatch on hicolor-icon-theme-0.5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chandler May List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:20:27 -0000 Hi, I've been unable to compile a very large number of programs because of a checksum mismatch on hicolor-icon-theme-0.5.tar.gz. Ports refuses to connect to any FTP or HTTP servers for the download, and will not recognize the file when I download it manually and put it in distfiles. Besides this specific port (not sure about what to call it, but port sounds right), Ports works fine. I've cvsup'd everything already to FreeBSD 5.3-CURRENT, but my initial install was 5.3-RELEASE (if that makes a difference). Is this a known bug, or could it just be a problem with my system? Chandler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 20:41:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E365416A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:41:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 89DE043D3F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:41:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.173.26.30 with login) by smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Dec 2004 20:41:19 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:41:18 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <41CAFA83.4020300@orchid.homeunix.org> <1BE28C962CDB9C1F9E0EBBF7@[192.168.100.102]> In-Reply-To: <1BE28C962CDB9C1F9E0EBBF7@[192.168.100.102]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412231241.18878.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: Stefan Farrenkopf Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:41:20 -0000 On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:37 am, Stefan Farrenkopf wrote: > --On Donnerstag, 23. Dezember 2004 18:04 Uhr +0100 Karol Kwiatkowski > wrote: > > A bit OT, but to make things clear I'd like to point out it's not > > the devil. It's a daemon. > > BSD Daemon. > > Sure, you are right it's a daemon; I used "devil" because of it's > relation to (d)"evil". How about change it to an eye on a pyramid? Frankly, this is a bit silly, and it's been beaten to death, but every time it comes up it still strikes me as silly. The world does not revolve around everyone's peculiar, individual sensibilites. You can't please everyone - particularly not deeply religious people, and each group is offended by different things - so it's not even worth playing that game. If you think Procter & Gamble are satanic for using a particular symbol as their logo: http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/procter.asp , fine, but don't expect them to bend over backwards and change their logo because you think so. If you are so sensitive as to be swayed by a logo that isn't even meant to be offensive in the first place, and over technical considerations, then chances are FreeBSD isn't for you, but thats just MO. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 21:16:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32A816A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:16:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sa2.bezeqint.net (sa2.bezeqint.net [192.115.104.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3081143D46 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:16:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nimrod-me@bezeqint.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1])ESMTP id 38AA834FD0 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:11:51 +0200 (IST) Received: from sa2.bezeqint.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sa2 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17839-04 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:11:50 +0200 (IST) Received: from localhost.bsd.net.il (unknown [82.81.86.251])ESMTP for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:11:50 +0200 (IST) Received: from localhost.bsd.net.il (nimrodm@localhost [127.0.0.1]) iBNMBvv6001754 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:11:58 +0200 (IST) (envelope-from nimrodm@localhost.bsd.net.il) Received: (from nimrodm@localhost) by localhost.bsd.net.il (8.12.9p2/8.12.6/Submit) id iBNMBvIX001753 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:11:57 +0200 (IST) From: Nimrod Mesika Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:11:57 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041223221157.GA1577@localhost.bsd.net.il> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bezeqint.net Subject: ppbus programming / porting freenomad to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:16:37 -0000 Hi all, I'm trying to port 'freenomad' (an abandoned sourceforge project) from Linux to FreeBSD. The software uses the Linux parallel port framework (parport) to setup a simple IEEE 1284 ECP session. It seems like the equivalent functionality is provided by FreeBSD's ppbus(4). However, I can't find any documentation/example code for using ppbus from a userland application. Specifically, the Linux app does the following: 1. open("/dev/parport0", O_RDWR) 2. Claim the port (Linux ioctl PPCLAIM) 3. Negotiate ECP (Linux ioctl PPNEGOT with arg. IEEE1284_MODE_ECP) Before reading or writing it sets the parallel port direction 4. ioctl( fd, PPDATADIR, &direction ) (direction=0/1) 5. write() or read() using the handle returned by open() On exit 6. Release the port: ioctl( fd, PPRELEASE ) 7. close(fd) I need to find the equivalent code for FreeBSD and would appreciate any pointers you might have. Thanks, Nimrod. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 21:18:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6489B16A4CF for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:18:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from quark.cs.earlham.edu (cs.earlham.edu [159.28.230.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C606443D2F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:18:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from skylar@cs.earlham.edu) Received: from quark.cs.earlham.edu (localhost.cs.earlham.edu [127.0.0.1]) by quark.cs.earlham.edu (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBNLIQPP074347 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:18:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skylar@cs.earlham.edu) Received: (from skylar@localhost) by quark.cs.earlham.edu (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) id iBNLIQBH074346 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:18:26 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from skylar@cs.earlham.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: quark.cs.earlham.edu: skylar set sender to skylar@quark.cs.earlham.edu using -f Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:18:25 -0600 From: Skylar Thompson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041223211825.GA74194@quark.cs.earlham.edu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41CA2009.5030002@krisk.org> <41CA22D0.4060104@krisk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Sender: "Skylar Thompson" X-Accept-Primary-Language: en X-Accept-Secondary-Language: es SMTP-Mailing-Host: quark.cs.earlham.edu X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.11-PRERELEASE X-Uptime: 3:15PM up 7 days, 12:23, 14 users, load averages: 0.46, 0.40, 0.27 X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 6.3 (2004 June 7, compiled Aug 26 2004 10:37:04) Subject: Java [was: Re: Switching FreeBSD machines] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Skylar Thompson List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:18:27 -0000 --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 12:20:09PM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote: > to give you a confidence boost, I very recently built jdk14 on > a 5.3-RELEASE machine *by the instructions*, and it built > without problems, and apps were able to find it afterwards. > If that's all that's keeping from starting from scratch, don't > worry about java; it's not that bad. Does anyone know if JDK1.5 is going to be supported by FreeBSD? I have some JDK1.5 apps that I've written for Linux that I would like to run on FreeBSD. I've been unsuccessful in getting JDK1.5 running through Linux emulation too. --=20 -- Skylar Thompson (skylar@cs.earlham.edu) -- http://www.cs.earlham.edu/~skylar/ --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFByzYhsc4yyULgN4YRArZvAJ9uX5STsqlm1exR4VPC9TE7vduDVgCfUWVr h5n57sL9+zQ8YLK0AHOQ1ts= =FgVP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 21:23:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F098416A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:23:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from redtick.homeunix.com (adsl-68-91-128-250.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net [68.91.128.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8241243D2F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:23:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from boxend@redtick.homeunix.com) Received: from redtick.homeunix.com (localhost.homeunix.com [127.0.0.1]) by redtick.homeunix.com (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBNLMliV086671; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:22:47 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from boxend@redtick.homeunix.com) Received: (from boxend@localhost) by redtick.homeunix.com (8.13.1/8.12.10/Submit) id iBNLMlow086670; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:22:47 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from boxend) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:22:46 -0600 From: Mark To: Robert Small Message-ID: <20041223212246.GA86570@redtick.homeunix.com> References: <41CA5B0E.3060405@luftx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41CA5B0E.3060405@luftx.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WinTV Radio - CORRECTED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:23:40 -0000 On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 11:43:42PM -0600, Robert Small wrote: > My apologies, I was trying new mail software and had it misconfigured: > > > I just purchased a WinTV Radio card, and I can't get the bktr driver to > load. > > My kernel: > device bktr > device iicbus > device iicbb > device smbus > > I've even tried it with: > options BKTR_NEW_MSP34XX_DRIVER > > sysctl -a | grep bt shows: > hw.bt848.card: -1 > hw.bt848.tuner: -1 > hw.bt848.reverse_mute: -1 > hw.bt848.format: -1 > hw.bt848.slow_msp_audio: -1 > hw.bt848.stereo_once: 0 > hw.bt848.amsound: 0 > hw.bt848.dolby: 0 > > pciconf -lv: > none7@pci1:7:0: class=0x040000 card=0x34010070 chip=0x880014f1 rev=0x05 > hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Conexant Systems, Inc' > device = 'CX2388x TV Capture Card' > class = multimedia > subclass = video > none8@pci1:7:1: class=0x048000 card=0x34010070 chip=0x880114f1 rev=0x05 > hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Conexant Systems, Inc' > device = 'CX2388x TV Capture Card' > class = multimedia > > Any suggestions/advice? > > Please cc me as I'm not subscribed to this list. > > Thanks!! > > Robert > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-multimedia > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-multimedia-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Try looking into this, I am in the same boat as you, same chipset, I'm not giving up yet! http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=40967+0+archive/2004/freebsd-multimedia/20040321.freebsd-multimedia Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 22:11:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D54A16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:11:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8657C43D2F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:11:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b207.otenet.gr [212.205.244.215]) iBNMBGBo003408; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:11:17 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBNMBDqv001912; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:11:13 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBNMBBOC001911; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:11:11 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:11:10 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Sally Hines Message-ID: <20041223221110.GA1390@gothmog.gr> Mail-Followup-To: Giorgos Keramidas , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6e01203b04122309064e682e1c@mail.gmail.com> <000001c4e934$9290f080$6400a8c0@musal32mpxlg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000001c4e934$9290f080$6400a8c0@musal32mpxlg> cc: 'Mervin McDougall' cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: 'Tyler Gee' Subject: Re: Manpage interpreter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:11:20 -0000 On 2004-12-23 13:15, Sally Hines wrote: > > I've been subscribing to this list for over 3 years. I initially > subscribed to the -questions list also, but I couldn't handle the > volume, and also couldn't interpret the language used there. I need to > learn in a language that I know, or at least get an interpreter for > the manpage-ese that's used in replies to questions on that list. Whenever the answer to a question seems confusing you may, of course, ask for extra details, a clarification, etc. :-) > I ask a simple question, how do I automate ports update? I get "read > the manpages" or quoting from the manpages which is written in a > language foreign to me, but masquerades as English. Where can I get at > least a good, simple glossary for the terms used in the manpages and > on the questions list? I have recently started using portupgrade. It's a wonderful set of tools, but it may get a bit technical at times. Ideally, the upgrade of all ports installed on a system is an easy 3 step process. 1. Update your Ports tree with CVSup. # cvsup -g -L 2 -h cvsup.de.freebsd.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile 2. Install the portupgrade tools from the Ports: # cd /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade # make install # make clean 3. Let portupgrade update all the ports: # pkgdb -F -u # portupgrade -a -N -vu -rR > I asked questions here, and got yelled at, at great length. I have not > posted to this list for over a year because of that. The freebsd-newbies list is not really meant to be a list for questions, AFAIK. You should ask by posting at freebsd-questions. When the responses seem intimidating or confusing, ask for clarification of the points you didn't understand :-) > Sally Hines > With a broken FreeBSD box If you need any help to fix that, either reply to this post (I have redirected replies to freebsd-questions *and* me), or mail me privately. Cheers, - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 22:24:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A7A16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:24:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out006.verizon.net (out006pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E1143D49 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:24:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.252.53]) by out006.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041223222458.YOAK7873.out006.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:24:58 -0600 Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7CA1111862; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:24:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:24:28 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041223222428.GA20482@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <41CAFA83.4020300@orchid.homeunix.org> <1BE28C962CDB9C1F9E0EBBF7@[192.168.100.102]> <200412231241.18878.krinklyfig@spymac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200412231241.18878.krinklyfig@spymac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out006.verizon.net from [68.163.252.53] at Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:24:58 -0600 Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:24:59 -0000 On 12/23/04 12:41 PM, Joshua Tinnin sat at the `puter and typed: > On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:37 am, Stefan Farrenkopf > wrote: > > --On Donnerstag, 23. Dezember 2004 18:04 Uhr +0100 Karol Kwiatkowski > > wrote: > > > A bit OT, but to make things clear I'd like to point out it's not > > > the devil. It's a daemon. > > > BSD Daemon. > > > > Sure, you are right it's a daemon; I used "devil" because of it's > > relation to (d)"evil". > > How about change it to an eye on a pyramid? Yeah! Let's do THAT! LOL :) > Frankly, this is a bit silly, and it's been beaten to death, but every > time it comes up it still strikes me as silly. The world does not > revolve around everyone's peculiar, individual sensibilites. Thank you! I couldn't have said it better myself. Certainly not so tactfully. > You can't > please everyone - particularly not deeply religious people, and each > group is offended by different things - so it's not even worth playing > that game. Thank you again! > If you think Procter & Gamble are satanic for using a > particular symbol as their logo: > http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/procter.asp , fine, but don't > expect them to bend over backwards and change their logo because you > think so. If you are so sensitive as to be swayed by a logo that isn't > even meant to be offensive in the first place, and over technical > considerations, then chances are FreeBSD isn't for you, but thats just > MO. Hear, Hear! Call me a skeptic, call me insensitive to religious superstition, but I am not ignorant to the relevance of the logo, and I think the loader, the website, and everything else about FreeBSD is on the right track. Jeez. Ok, rest assured the snip above was long and way OT, but I need to vent when I think Beastie is getting dissed. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ԿԬ Egotism, n: Doing the New York Times crossword puzzle with a pen. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 22:28:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4943F16A4CF for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:28:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1931343D31 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:28:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6B2F3516D1; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:28:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:28:19 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Chandler May Message-ID: <20041223222819.GA77862@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <6f77d33304122312203ecd1c49@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6f77d33304122312203ecd1c49@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: checksum mismatch on hicolor-icon-theme-0.5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:28:20 -0000 --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 12:20:26PM -0800, Chandler May wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I've been unable to compile a very large number of programs because of > a checksum mismatch on hicolor-icon-theme-0.5.tar.gz. If you already have a local copy of this file, you may need to remove it and re-fetch an updated copy. Use 'make distclean' from the port directory to remove all distfiles for the port so you can re-fetch them. > Ports refuses to > connect to any FTP or HTTP servers for the download, Verify that your ports collection is complete and up-to-date. This kind of problem is usually fixed very quickly. > and will not > recognize the file when I download it manually and put it in > distfiles. Are you sure you're putting it in the right directory? Compare carefully to the error message. Kris --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBy0aDWry0BWjoQKURAsRQAKDI9g92xQKW2pw0rgbc2tq72giwEQCg1Y4K 9HVbfG8fjQW/96SuJk/kxEI= =x1QX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 22:33:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9670D16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:33:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4B043D48 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:33:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBNMX65k006944 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:33:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41CB4798.4090708@mac.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:32:56 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marc G. Fournier" References: <20041223125410.X1788@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20041223125410.X1788@ganymede.hub.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.5 tests=RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Effective ipfw rules for blocking MSN Messenger ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:33:13 -0000 Marc G. Fournier wrote: > I just setup a FreeBSD box for a router, so that I could make use of > ipfw to block MSN Messenger traffic ... but I'm having a bugger of a > time finding a "definitive" list of what needs to be blocked :( > > MSN Messenger appears to be smart enough to go *around* the usual port > 1863 and onto port 80 if it needs to ... Apparently the best way to accomplish this goal is to block all traffic to and from the MSN boxes, rather than trying to filter by port #. I thought I had a list of those IPs handy, but I can't find it... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 22:39:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0567016A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:39:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cqgigw.cqg.com (cqgigw.cqg.com [208.48.16.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51A343D54 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:39:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomc@cqg.com) Received: from cqgmail.cqg.com (int.cqg.com [96.0.0.2]) iBNMdOGf018032; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:39:24 -0700 Received: from d3stomc ([192.168.17.154]) by cqgmail.cqg.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iBNMdLdV030814; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:39:21 -0700 From: "Tom Connolly" To: "'Chuck Swiger'" , "'Marc G. Fournier'" Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:39:21 -0700 Message-ID: <025301c4e940$3eb89740$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <41CB4798.4090708@mac.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.181 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=0, required 3) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Effective ipfw rules for blocking MSN Messenger ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:39:27 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Swiger Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 3:33 PM To: Marc G. Fournier Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Effective ipfw rules for blocking MSN Messenger ... ? Marc G. Fournier wrote: > I just setup a FreeBSD box for a router, so that I could make use of > ipfw to block MSN Messenger traffic ... but I'm having a bugger of a > time finding a "definitive" list of what needs to be blocked :( I believe that MSN Messenger dynamically allocates ports. I know this is true for audio and video communications. The standard SIP port is 5060 if that helps. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 22:42:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C138716A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:42:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com (cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com [204.174.223.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC7A43D45 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:42:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from comm@rwx.ca) Received: from dean (S0106000ea67c0d69.vc.shawcable.net [24.80.111.64]) by cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01432DD9A for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:42:34 -0800 (PST) From: "comm/JT" To: Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:47:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcTpQVmBQteseOYORHaMrKCsUH96eA== Message-Id: <20041223224234.01432DD9A@cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com> Subject: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:42:34 -0000 Hello, Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some documentation to fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this and seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and outdated document. Thanks! ====== -comm rwx.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 22:51:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA35816A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:51:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cqgigw.cqg.com (cqgigw.cqg.com [208.48.16.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A886F43D53 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:51:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomc@cqg.com) Received: from cqgmail.cqg.com (int.cqg.com [96.0.0.2]) iBNMpLGf021283; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:51:21 -0700 Received: from d3stomc ([192.168.17.154]) by cqgmail.cqg.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iBNMpFdV006500; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:51:15 -0700 From: "Tom Connolly" To: "'Tom Connolly'" , "'Chuck Swiger'" , "'Marc G. Fournier'" Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:51:15 -0700 Message-ID: <025a01c4e941$e84e5410$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <025301c4e940$3eb89740$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.181 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=0, required 3) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Effective ipfw rules for blocking MSN Messenger ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:51:26 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Swiger Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 3:33 PM To: Marc G. Fournier Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Effective ipfw rules for blocking MSN Messenger ... ? Marc G. Fournier wrote: > I just setup a FreeBSD box for a router, so that I could make use of=20 > ipfw to block MSN Messenger traffic ... but I'm having a bugger of a=20 > time finding a "definitive" list of what needs to be blocked :( I believe that MSN Messenger dynamically allocates ports. I know this is true for audio and video communications. The standard SIP port is 5060 if that helps. Tom One more thing to clarify. I think by blocking the SIP port you could stop Messenger from receiving contact presence information and hence, block Messenger. Tom _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 22:57:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B754D16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:57:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FC543D2F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:57:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBNMvZs9092519; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:57:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBNMvXqB020673; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:57:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iBNMvWFW020672; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:57:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:57:31 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: "Jay O'Brien" Message-ID: <20041223225731.GA20653@thought.org> References: <200412230046.39559.jaymo@cromagnon.cullmail.com> <20041223193408.GA19673@thought.org> <41CB259C.6080001@att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41CB259C.6080001@att.net> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Foundation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:57:38 -0000 On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 12:07:56PM -0800, Jay O'Brien wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > >if the freebsdfoundation set up a paypal button and asked > >$5, i'd chip in my niickle. i bet at least thousands of others > >would too. > > Go to: > http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donating.shtml > and click on donate. I did, using PayPal. > Done; I've added my few cents to tthe foundation, thanks for the pointer. Um, to any othrs who may do this tidbit, you click on he credit-card *icon*. (*mumble*:) gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 23:34:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5620716A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:34:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cromagnon.cullmail.com (cromagnon.cullmail.com [67.33.58.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9AF443D5C for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:34:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jamoore@cromagnon.cullmail.com) Received: from cromagnon.cullmail.com (localhost.cullmail.com [127.0.0.1]) iBNNWDxY062629; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:32:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jamoore@cromagnon.cullmail.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by cromagnon.cullmail.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id iBNNWDfT062628; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:32:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jamoore) From: Jay Moore To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:32:12 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200412231732.12666.jaymo@cromagnon.cullmail.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Foundation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jaymo@cromagnon.cullmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:34:56 -0000 On Thursday 23 December 2004 04:34 am, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > On Wednesday 22 December 2004 11:02 am, Troy Mills wrote: > > > As some of you may or may not know the FreeBSD Foundation supports the > > > FreeBSD developers financially via funds mainly from donations from > > > the public. Anyway there is a IRS "1/3rd test" for "public support" > > > and the current foundation ratio that is a little out of whack due to > > > a few generous people donating large sums of money. I have no idea > > > what will happen if they cannot remain a public charity but I'm sure > > > the affects wont be positive as they clearly stated that it is in > > > there interest to remain a public charity. > > QUESTION: Do sales of the FreeBSD CDs support the project? And if so, > > now? > > > > I thought I _was_ supporting the project through my CD > > subscription... I was > > not aware of the FreeBSD Foundation (thanks for the enlightenment), but > > financial support for software developers of any kind seems a bit of a > > stretch for a "charity". Perhaps I'm just not in tune with the legal > > definition of a charity. > > Hi Jay, > > The short answer to your question is "it depends on who you buy > your CD's from" > > If you are buying them from http://www.freebsdmall.com then yes, > they have provided significant support in the past and still do - in > February 2004 they contributed $5K to The FreeBSD Foundation - and in > the past, years ago when they were Walnut Creek CDROM they contributed > far more support to the Project. Yes - I buy from FreeBSD mall which I thought was run by Walnut Creek. I've had this subscription since 3.0 or 3.1... the cd's keep coming. I'd say if the new owners aren't giving the project the same cut as the previous owners, then maybe consider doing something else??? > Now, as for the Foundation's status as a charity: > > I'll start with asking you a simple question: Setting aside the > legal definitions, what in your mind IS a charity, exactly? Hey look - I don't need a lecture about charity, and I'm not disputing that the foundation is "legally" classified as a charity. In my mind, I would consider it more like a not-for-profit organization; charities are organizations that help the needy - people who can't help themselves. And by the way - that IS the dictionary definition of a charity. I'm not sure what dictionary you're reading from. > Well, to a lot of people, a charity is simply a kind of accepted > Robin Hood - it takes from the (willing) rich and gives to the > poor and needy. > > But, this narrow definition isn't the dictionary definition of > a charity, and it really isn't the general definition of a charity > either. For example, take the Catholic Church. This is legally > and in many people's eyes morally, a charity. Yet, while Catholic > churches run ministries that help the poor, the Catholic Church > is by no means giving everything it has to the poor - it's accounted > the wealthiest organization on the face of the Earth, for starters, > and there are many thousands of projects that Catholics do that > aren't ministering to the poor and needy, but rather projects > that are for the public good that benefit the general public. Oh my goodness - now that's an interesting comparison: FreeBSD Foundation and the Catholic church. My Dad was born in Belfast, Northern Ireland - so this analogy has convinced me to give :) > My definition of a charity, and the dictionary definition of a > charity, is that a charity is an organization that administers a > pot of money and talent that they dole out to not just needy people, but > to people and groups that do what you call Good Works - that is, > benevolent projects that have as sole purpose the benefit of > the general public - ie: us. > > So on to your question about why are we paying software developers? > > Well it's like this. There are things that are part of FreeBSD that > need to be done and have as a benefit, the entire FreeBSD project, > and in fact, anyone who uses FreeBSD. And, as FreeBSD moves more > and more away from a pure "hobbiest" operating system and becomes > a player in the commercial sector, increasingly these things are > issues with commercial software. > > For example, every time that one of the Ziff-Davis ragazines does > yet another tired 'bake-off' contest between Windows and FreeBSD, > somebody from the FreeBSD camp must spend a lot of time hand-holding > the moron writers that write the bake-off articles. Who is that > person going to be? Will it be some young, but inexperienced > FreeBSD advocate who is very eager to do it and will do it for free? > Or will it be some experienced FreeBSD person who's time is > expensive, and in order to do it will have to tell paying clients > to wait an extra week? Which one of these people do you think > is going to help FreeBSD score higher? > > Software companies that are contemplating porting their commercial > projects to UNIX versions, they read these tired bake-off contests. > And they aren't going to spend money on an operating system that is > represented in these articles as an unsupported, unreliable, > operating system. > > The long and short of it is that BSD in general survives due to > code and assistance rendered by the software industry, specifically > commercial producers. If the industry didn't provide jobs for > thes developers they wouldn't have the time to work on FreeBSD. > Some of these commercial software companies have products that depend on > FreeBSD and when there is a problem in FreeBSD these companies pay > for the time that developers spend fixing FreeBSD problems. > > So, to keep these commercial consumers happy with FreeBSD, the > Project needs to meet them halfway. For example the port of the > Sun JDK to FreeBSD. I don't honestly think that there is a > developer in the world who doesen't work for Sun that really wants > to spend their free time fixing bugs in Sun's Java code, to get it to > run on FreeBSD. Even Sun's developers don't want to do this dirty > work. But if it's going to get done someone has to do it, > so that is why the FreeBSD Foundation exists - to step in and pay for > development when completing a project like the JDK port has > a clear and obvious benefit to the public good. That pretty > much defines a charity, don't you think? I think you are as full of shit as a Christmas goose, Ted. You know what - I've been supporting the FreeBSD project for a few years with CD purchases. I'll continue to do so. I might even make a cash contribution to the project. But in my opinion, calling the FreeBSD foundation a "charity" denigrates the project. That's my opinion, and I don't care to debate it. Merry Christmas to All, Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 01:12:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B2416A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:12:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out003.verizon.net (out003pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F1843D5C for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:12:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reso3w83@verizon.net) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.26.84.7]) by out003.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041224011211.ZHQP1106.out003.verizon.net@ringworm.mechee.com>; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:12:11 -0600 Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 88ABA2CE740; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:09:25 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: "Noah" Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:09:22 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20041222203704.M67964@enabled.com> <200412221447.00614.reso3w83@verizon.net> <20041224003452.M17161@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <20041224003452.M17161@enabled.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412231709.24148.reso3w83@verizon.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out003.verizon.net from [4.26.84.7] at Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:12:11 -0600 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portmanager fails installing apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:12:13 -0000 On Thursday 23 December 2004 04:43 pm, you wrote: > > Try: > > > > ls /var/db/pkg > > > > and see if you have a > > > > /var/db/pkg/apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 > > > > directory, if you do then you probably ran > > > > pkg_delete apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 > > > > instead of > > > > pkg_delete -f apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 > > > > If you don't have that directory, then let me know, > > it will cause me to install the apache ports on my system > > in an attempt to duplicate your problem. > > > > -Mike > > thanks Mike - your recommendation fixed it - but now there is > something similar with lynx and lynx-ssl. Any clues how to get out > of this loop? > > > ---- snip ---- > > pkg_create: can't find package 'lynx-2.8.5' installed! > ------------------------------------------------ > cd /usr/ports/www/lynx; make deinstall > ===> Deinstalling for www/lynx > ===> lynx not installed, skipping > ------------------------------------------------ > cd /usr/ports/www/lynx; make reinstall > ===> Installing for lynx-2.8.5 > > ===> lynx-2.8.5 conflicts with installed package(s): > lynx-ssl-2.8.5 > > They install files into the same place. > Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/lynx. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/lynx. > pmupgrade 0.2.0_3 error: make reinstall returned an error, cannot > continue typhoon# > typhoon# ls -ld /var/db/pkg/lynx* > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Dec 22 12:50 > /var/db/pkg/lynx-ssl-2.8.5 typhoon# pkg_delete lynx-ssl-2.8.5 > pkg_delete: package 'lynx-ssl-2.8.5' is required by these other > packages and may not be deinstalled: > imp-3.2.6 > kronolith-1.1.2 > wv-1.0.0_2 > typhoon# > typhoon# portmanager -u pkg_delete -f lynx-ssl-2.8.5 and rerun portmanager, don't forget the "-f". Basically portmanager needs the lynx-ssl-2.8.5 package out of the way so it can get lynx-2.8.5 installed, but when you just run pkg_delete lynx-ssl-2.8.5 with no "-f" it does not get removed because imp-3.2.6, kronolith-1.1.2, and wv-1.0.0_2 were built with lynx-ssl-2.8.5 originally and still need it installed. After you "force" the removal of lynx-ssl-2.8.5 with the "-f" switch portmanager should end up rebuilding imp-3.2.6, kronolith-1.1.2, and wv-1.0.0_2 with lynx-2.8.5 instead of lynx-ssl-2.8.5 and all of that mess of ports should be happy once again because in the end they will all have a matching dependency of lynx-2.8.5 instead of lynx-ssl-2.8.5. I upgraded portmanager recently so the output during portmanager -u is a little easier to follow, whenever the FreeBSD folks get around to commiting the new version I am hoping it will be easier for you to follow what is going on. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 01:21:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4764116A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:21:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.pugetsystems.com (ip-66-80-238-236.sea.megapath.net [66.80.238.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F3F43D53 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:21:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from daniel@pugetsystems.com) Received: from parts ([192.168.1.199]) by mail.pugetsystems.com (Merak 7.6.4) with ASMTP id BIA37916 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:21:10 -0800 Message-ID: <07d201c4e946$16b4d9b0$7801a8c0@parts> From: "Daniel Brown" To: Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:21:10 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: IPFW/IPNAT Troubles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:21:33 -0000 Hi, I am encountering a problem with a machine I just recently set up as a = NAT router. I am running 5.3-REL with ipfw and ipf loaded as modules = (not compiled in). These are the ipnat rules I have set up: (I replaced my external IP with 22.22.22.22). map sis0 192.168.1.0/24 -> 22.22.22.22/32 portmap tcp/udp auto rdr sis0 22.22.22.22/32 port 80 -> 192.168.1.7 port 80 rdr sis0 22.22.22.22/32 port 443 -> 192.168.1.7 port 443 rdr sis0 22.22.22.22/32 port 143 -> 192.168.1.5 port 143 rdr sis0 22.22.22.22/32 port 110 -> 192.168.1.5 port 110 rdr sis0 22.22.22.22/32 port 25 -> 192.168.1.5 port 25 rdr sis0 22.22.22.22/32 port 22 -> 192.168.1.7 port 22 rdr sis0 22.22.22.22/32 port 53 -> 192.168.1.7 port 53 IPFW is set to allow all. This works great for everything except for one small problem. Here is = what I think describes the problem best. I sit down at an internal = workstation (192.168.1.105), and type the things in brackets: [nslookup] [server 22.22.22.22] [www.yahoo.com] This is the response I get Server: 22-22-22-22.example.net Address: 22.22.22.22 *** 22-22-22-22.example.net can't find www.yahoo.com: No response from server Now, if I query the server 192.168.1.7 with nslookup, it works great, = resolves www.yahoo.com for me no problem. So it looks like theres is = some kind of problem with doing NAT translation to put the LAN's packets = on the internet, and then realizing they are for an interface on the = machine doing the NAT translation, then doing a port forward on that = packet back into the LAN. Here is some more information that might help: traffic from the outside, = to 22.22.22.22 port 80, is directed to 192.168.1.7 port 80 just fine. = People are browsing the web site as we speak. Same with the other port = redirects, as far as I can tell. It's just when trying to redirect = traffic that originated inside the LAN when the problem comes up. What = I've done to partially resolve this issue for now is I've set up HOSTS = files on the LAN so that we can access our own web site (so = ourwebsite.com is 192.168.1.7 in our local HOSTS files). Anyone have suggestions? Thanks, Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 01:28:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C79D16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:28:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out011.verizon.net (out011pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E2A43D39 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:28:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reso3w83@verizon.net) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.26.84.7]) by out011.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041224012811.WJGC4717.out011.verizon.net@ringworm.mechee.com>; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:28:11 -0600 Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 618462CE740; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:25:25 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: "Noah" User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20041222203704.M67964@enabled.com> <200412221447.00614.reso3w83@verizon.net> <20041224005629.M33934@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <20041224005629.M33934@enabled.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:25:23 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200412231725.24674.reso3w83@verizon.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out011.verizon.net from [4.26.84.7] at Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:28:11 -0600 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portmanager fails installing dri X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:28:12 -0000 On Thursday 23 December 2004 04:56 pm, you wrote: > > Try: > > > > ls /var/db/pkg > > > > and see if you have a > > > > /var/db/pkg/apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 > > > > directory, if you do then you probably ran > > > > pkg_delete apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 > > > > instead of > > > > pkg_delete -f apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 > > > > If you don't have that directory, then let me know, > > it will cause me to install the apache ports on my system > > in an attempt to duplicate your problem. > > > > -Mike > > smae thing is happening with dri and I removed with pkg_delete > dri-6.2,2 > You keep forgeting the "-f" switch... try pkg_delete -f dri-6.2,2. I have another question for you, did you just start using portmanager recently where before you used to use portupgrade? It is important I know this because it may help me make a better change to portmanager. -Mike Just a follow up to the question I just sent to you, I am thinking maybe you installed some of these ports as packages recently, if that is so they may have been built with the wrong dependencies for your system. Please let me know, it will make a difference on this end in any modifications I have to make to portmanager. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 02:01:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7D116A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:01:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail4.speakeasy.net (mail4.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F392043D54 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:01:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 21695 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2004 02:01:53 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Dec 2004 02:01:53 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 7065B44; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:01:52 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Mark References: <20041222223050.A67744@logik.ath.cx> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 23 Dec 2004 21:01:52 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20041222223050.A67744@logik.ath.cx> Message-ID: <44is6ssbcf.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg & xdm & securelevels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:01:54 -0000 Mark writes: > I would like to push my securelevel up to 1 in order to better enforce > my security policy (protecting chflags, kernel modules etc) but this > of course would break Xorg as it requires access to /dev/io. I've > heard that it's possible to run Xorg via xdm whilst the system is > booting at securelevel 0 and have the securelevel raised afterwards, > effectively allowing X to live in a securelevel > 0 environment. Sure. I don't bother for my own machines, because I'm very careful about authentication methods, but it's certainly > How painful is this to implement? Am I likely to run into any > major problems? It's trivial to implement, and will work fine. If I remember correctly, setting the securelevel by the normal rc.conf method and enabling xdm from ttys(5) should do it. > I've also heard that it's possible to remove the SUID bit from X > by using xdm, but that's probably for another thread... Yep, completely different topic. It's true that it's possible, but if you're in a raised securelevel, it's also not going to gain you much. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 02:10:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D852616A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:10:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FDCB43D53 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:10:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B2E60F1 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:10:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 44127-08 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:10:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F379360E2 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:10:30 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41CB7AB8.10009@makeworld.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:11:04 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041218) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD - Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.0 (20041102) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Subject: Supported CDRW listing for 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:10:34 -0000 I'm going to be in the market for a new CDRW soon - I thought there was a list of supported devices. There certainly isnt a mention in the 5.3 Hardware Notes. -- Best regards, Chris The probability that a household pet will raise a fuss to go in or out is directly proportional to the number and importance of your dinner guests. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 02:20:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970F716A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:20:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2207543D39 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:20:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fj@panix.com) Received: from panix5.panix.com (panix5.panix.com [166.84.1.5]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CFBE981B3; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:20:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fj@localhost) by panix5.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id iBO2KCc21330; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:20:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:20:12 -0500 From: Joe Altman To: Kevin Smith Message-ID: <20041224022012.GA4727@panix.com> Mail-Followup-To: Joe Altman , Kevin Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41CAFEB0.6070204@adelphia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41CAFEB0.6070204@adelphia.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: complete system backup recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:20:14 -0000 On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 09:21:52AM -0800, Kevin Smith wrote: > Hello, I'm asking for current recommendations on how to backup my > complete system (OS and all installed ports and user directories) now > that i've spent quite a bit of time getting it right. i'd hate to have > to reinstall everything again in the event of a drive failure. Here is > my allocation: > > > > df -k > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad0s2a 5948558 3071326 2401348 56% / > /dev/ad0s2d 23498930 1377932 20241084 6% /home > > Questions: > > 1) Should I purchase an inexpensive drive and clone the filesystems ? > If so, what is the best way to do this. Drives are inexpensive and I > 20G backup drive would be fairly cheap. > 2) I'm installing a DVD drive - I suppose I could make DVD backups > across multiple CD's. > 3) any sugs ? I've been giving this some thought also. I've played around w/ ccd, on 4.11, with two identical 40 Gig drives. I've worked w/ cdbkup; I like it okay, as not only does it work well enough, it was a bit of a challenge for me to learn. I've been meaning to look at DAR, but haven't had time. I've given some consideration to a large HDD, in a cheapo case like the ones made by Bytecc, and dumping things over a USB 2 cable. But if you are buying a DVD drive, maybe something like cdbkup or DAR with growisofs (but maybe not; I only know CDRW bits) is the thing. The only thing I'm not wild about, WRT cdbkup, is that it tars the files in questions. I'd like to be able to mount the cd, and look at the contents. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 02:21:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6439B16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:21:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 016DC43D39 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:21:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adrianpatino@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id y7so74224rne for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:21:24 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WbDKNYa+H/tzJYC61vU72pRB7tJHPXjISuY2qdd2sXq5SFm5LJwAhdGBWzQbux1Ua+3c+zvd8YoIHGyAoBvn9VTNzDa3vJ1IiFc7o1KibjaxFt9mG+ohfQuSzgMx861z2dOWYOB5qrddBVW/SXB80+0xSNF9vNqJscPklqcXdQI= Received: by 10.38.209.72 with SMTP id h72mr318028rng; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:21:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.209.17 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:20:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <889d6df04122318205038485f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:20:30 -0600 From: Adrian Patino II To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 5.3 Xorg jerky X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Adrian Patino II List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:21:25 -0000 Hello, Fairly new to FreeBSD. Recently did a fresh install from 4.10 to 5.3, and noticed that when in X, things are a bit jerky, enough for me to notice at least. Anything scrolling jerks and SDL video programs are very jerky. Wondering what in particular should I look into to fix this? Also, when I previously was using 4.10, my computer made a heck of a lot of noise, which I blamed on a cheap powersupply. It was also very hot (which i also blamed on the powersupply)- I had to turn it off when I did not use it. When I ran X, there were dark vertical lines on the lcd which I assumed was due to it being old and cheap. All this changed however when I installed 5.3. The computer is completely quiet at all times and the graphics are sharper than ever, much much sharper than my xp computer. Anyways, I guess im wondering if there was anything I might have been doing insanely wrong, so that I can prevent that from happening in the future. I know this questions are very broad, but im too new to this game to make them more specific, hopefully someone can point me in the right direction. thanks Adrian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 02:21:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E41516A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:21:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BC743D46 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:21:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adrianpatino@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so205835rnf for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:21:42 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=o3A8hyg4A3CQlep4zozN/0zs03d/pU7hvUGFJZhULQSP7FJ917lTG+VVvuSdzZ2GyAV9JMdG3kpWK0XfpHV6RHMBFGTAicbh4P/SU0+uNS8sQBZMqFb+L9HNv73+tldDxX7p6eCyhUi29L8mXOgzEmN4Lqmc+zEovpKd9qHMzmk= Received: by 10.38.97.9 with SMTP id u9mr351724rnb; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:21:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.209.17 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:20:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <889d6df04122318205038485f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:20:30 -0600 From: Adrian Patino II To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 5.3 Xorg jerky X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Adrian Patino II List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:21:44 -0000 Hello, Fairly new to FreeBSD. Recently did a fresh install from 4.10 to 5.3, and noticed that when in X, things are a bit jerky, enough for me to notice at least. Anything scrolling jerks and SDL video programs are very jerky. Wondering what in particular should I look into to fix this? Also, when I previously was using 4.10, my computer made a heck of a lot of noise, which I blamed on a cheap powersupply. It was also very hot (which i also blamed on the powersupply)- I had to turn it off when I did not use it. When I ran X, there were dark vertical lines on the lcd which I assumed was due to it being old and cheap. All this changed however when I installed 5.3. The computer is completely quiet at all times and the graphics are sharper than ever, much much sharper than my xp computer. Anyways, I guess im wondering if there was anything I might have been doing insanely wrong, so that I can prevent that from happening in the future. I know this questions are very broad, but im too new to this game to make them more specific, hopefully someone can point me in the right direction. thanks Adrian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 02:21:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD1C16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:21:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av3-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (av3-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110DC43D4C for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:21:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: by av3-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 1DC5E38197; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:21:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.181]) by av3-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA3C37FF0 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:21:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h201n1fls24o1048.bredband.comhem.se [212.181.162.201]) by smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E106A37E42 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:21:43 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 3051 invoked by uid 1001); 24 Dec 2004 02:21:43 -0000 Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:21:43 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Chris Message-ID: <20041224022143.GA3039@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Chris , FreeBSD - Questions References: <41CB7AB8.10009@makeworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41CB7AB8.10009@makeworld.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: FreeBSD - Questions Subject: Re: Supported CDRW listing for 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:21:46 -0000 On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 08:11:04PM -0600, Chris wrote: > I'm going to be in the market for a new CDRW soon - I thought there was > a list of supported devices. There certainly isnt a mention in the 5.3 > Hardware Notes. I believe just about all CD-RW drives you can buy today should work fine. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 02:31:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC6A16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:31:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta.ncst.ernet.in (mta.ncst.ernet.in [202.141.151.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66E743D2F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:31:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from AntiVirus-System@ncst.ernet.in) Received: from mta.ncst.ernet.in (IDENT:root@mta.ncst.ernet.in [202.141.151.15]) by mta.ncst.ernet.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id iBODN1o21134 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:23:01 -0500 From: AntiVirus-System@ncst.ernet.in MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <41CC17FB.00008D.18234@mta.ncst.ernet.in> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:22:03 -0500 (GMT+5) To: Subject: Message quarantined X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:31:22 -0000 #Scanner: MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 Problem description: Email data: MessageID: <200412241322.iBODM1B19773@mta.ncst.ernet.in> From: questions@freebsd.org To: vidyakash2002@ncst.ernet.in Cc: Subject: Hello Scanning part [] Scanning part [Textfile.zip] Attachment validity check: passed. Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 02:31:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2DE16A4CF for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:31:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta.ncst.ernet.in (mta.ncst.ernet.in [202.141.151.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D800243D48 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:31:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from AntiVirus-System@ncst.ernet.in) Received: from mta.ncst.ernet.in (IDENT:root@mta.ncst.ernet.in [202.141.151.15]) by mta.ncst.ernet.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id iBODN0o21124 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:23:00 -0500 From: AntiVirus-System@ncst.ernet.in MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <41CC17FA.00008B.18234@mta.ncst.ernet.in> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:22:02 -0500 (GMT+5) To: Subject: Virus found in the message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:31:22 -0000 #Scanner: MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 Problem description: Email data: MessageID: <200412241322.iBODM1B19773@mta.ncst.ernet.in> From: questions@freebsd.org To: vidyakash2002@ncst.ernet.in Cc: Subject: Hello Scanning part [] Scanning part [Textfile.zip] Attachment validity check: passed. Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 02:32:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E4616A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:32:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D923E43D53 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:32:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fj@panix.com) Received: from panix5.panix.com (panix5.panix.com [166.84.1.5]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C129B58A9B; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:32:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fj@localhost) by panix5.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id iBO2WXl18825; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:32:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:32:33 -0500 From: Joe Altman To: Chris Message-ID: <20041224023233.GA10049@panix.com> Mail-Followup-To: Joe Altman , Chris , FreeBSD - Questions References: <41CB7AB8.10009@makeworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41CB7AB8.10009@makeworld.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD - Questions Subject: Re: Supported CDRW listing for 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:32:35 -0000 On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 08:11:04PM -0600, Chris wrote: > I'm going to be in the market for a new CDRW soon - I thought there was > a list of supported devices. There certainly isnt a mention in the 5.3 > Hardware Notes. I've not used it w/ 5.3; but I have a hard time believing that Plextor models will fail to work with FreeBSD. I've been giving some thought to going w/ a DVD burner; they are falling in price so that I can afford one. Even the nicer Plextors are in reach. A quick check at newegg shows that there is about a $30 difference between the two. That's serial or atapi DVD, btw. 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Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE Virus identity found: W32/Netsky-AE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 03:11:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A4716A4CF for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:11:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53409.mail.yahoo.com (web53409.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D55D343D55 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:11:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 78971 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Dec 2004 03:11:00 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=DDNxJFWxOiD/YOPXL4GsLnzgrv5T+VlNPv3j8evXInnDgTF68U/dHoLihv51Kd0TwLm8mb8GEf8wD6C3RxYedK/LPHN/ImxWxVY8Xta3/PFMectW62syzPbfYnb7w1kYNqYH9zAaxiAAmGWPfpUVzmOvaS1C0ChfJcnzRL5RDNQ= ; Message-ID: <20041224031100.78969.qmail@web53409.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.65.181.33] by web53409.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:11:00 PST Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:11:00 -0800 (PST) From: Your Name To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: X problems after upgrade to 6.8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:11:01 -0000 Hi, i just upgraded a FreeBSD 5.3 box to Xorg 6.8.1 and it went perfectly smoothly, then i tried to upgrade a 4.10 box and im having problems. i just did the usual portupgrade -rR xorg, and the entire build process worked fine with no errors. But when i restarted gdm, it died with the following in my .xsession-errors: --- /usr/X11R6/etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp /usr/X11R6/etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/X11R6/bin/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /va r/run/utmp -x "/usr/X11R6/share/gnome/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "jen" /usr/X11R6/etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... /usr/X11R6/etc/gdm/Xsession: Setup done, will execute: /usr/bin/ssh-agent -- gnome-session GThread-ERROR **: file gthread-posix.c: line 137 (g_thread_impl_init): error 'Invalid argument' d uring 'pthread_getschedparam (pthread_self(), &policy, &sched)' aborting... --- i Googled but couldn't find another report of this, and didnt see anything in freebsd-questions either. i did rebuild gtk but that didnt work either. thanks for help on what to do, Jen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 03:34:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D30616A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:34:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5060643D49 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:34:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 81300511AE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:34:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:34:55 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Your Name Message-ID: <20041224033455.GA56959@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20041224031100.78969.qmail@web53409.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041224031100.78969.qmail@web53409.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X problems after upgrade to 6.8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:34:56 -0000 --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 07:11:00PM -0800, Your Name wrote: > Hi, >=20 > i just upgraded a FreeBSD 5.3 box to Xorg 6.8.1 and it > went perfectly smoothly, then i tried to upgrade a > 4.10 box and im having problems. Please re-send to x11@FreeBSD.org, the port maintainers. Kris --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBy45fWry0BWjoQKURAt0aAJ989ZutZF6cjTwCJDX4Ob/6XKU6xQCgis6Y 7Q9IEmLoRMjvh6FHa616Epg= =yl2P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 03:55:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2563516A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:55:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out008.verizon.net (out008pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F92843D1D for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:55:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reso3w83@verizon.net) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.26.84.7]) by out008.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041224035528.ULQ17379.out008.verizon.net@ringworm.mechee.com>; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:55:28 -0600 Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 14B072CE740; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:52:35 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: "Noah" Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:52:31 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20041224030502.M78256@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <20041224030502.M78256@enabled.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412231952.34173.reso3w83@verizon.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out008.verizon.net from [4.26.84.7] at Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:55:28 -0600 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dri install failing with portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:55:30 -0000 On Thursday 23 December 2004 07:12 pm, you wrote: > sending the portInstalled.dri.log > > > also here is the error'ed output: > > --- snip --- > > > pmupgrade 0.2.0_3 command: #3 ( cd /tmp; pkg_create -b > xfree86-dri-4.4.0 ) ------------------------------------------------ > pkg_create: can't find package 'xfree86-dri-4.4.0' installed! > ------------------------------------------------ > cd /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri; make deinstall > ===> Deinstalling for graphics/xfree86-dri > ===> xfree86-dri not installed, skipping > ------------------------------------------------ > cd /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri; make reinstall > ===> Installing for xfree86-dri-4.4.0 > > ===> xfree86-dri-4.4.0 conflicts with installed package(s): > dri-6.2,2 > > They install files into the same place. > Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/xfree86-dri. > pmupgrade 0.2.0_3 error: make reinstall returned an error, cannot > continue > > > --- snip --- > > > cheers, > > Noah OK, acording to the log you attached: [snippette] docbook-sk-4.1.2_3 docbook-xml-4.2_1 docbook-xsl-1.66.1_1 doom-1.8_1 dri-6.2,2 emacs-21.3_3 esound-0.2.35_1 evolution-2.0.3 evolution-data-server-1.0.3 expat-1.95.8 dri-6.2,2 is still installed, you need to do pkg_delete -f dri-6.2,2 and then make sure /var/db/pkg/dri-6.2,2 is gone. With the information you provided I can duplicate the looping problem so now I can make a modification to portmanager to handle it better. Hopefully when its done portmanager will exit with an error message that tells which package needs to be manually deleted and why it needs to be deleted. So thanks for your help here! That will be portmanager-0.2.1_1 or portmanager-0.2.2 and will probably be about a week before it is in the port tree. Mean while I am hoping you understand what needs to be done when this looping problem occurs, let me know how it goes with dri-6.2,2, if for sime reason pkg_delete -f dri-6.2,2 won't get rid of it you can always rm -r /var/db/pkg/dri-6.2,2 but that leads to another problem, the files from dri-6.2,2 would still be installed on your system but not attached to any port, so rm -r /var/db/pkg/dri-6.2,2 is a very sloppy solution, try to avoid it if you can. -Mike ps. One final thing Noah, I prefer to keep this on list so others with similar problems can find it with google so please cc freebsd-questions@freebsd.org in your replies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 04:17:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC03516A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 04:17:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861D543D2D for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 04:17:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-197-67.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com ([209.6.197.67] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #7) id 1ChgtC-00004G-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:17:18 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16843.38665.825694.347991@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:11:53 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta16) "celeriac" XEmacs Lucid Subject: df reports multiple devfs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 04:17:19 -0000 huff@>> df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1a 495726 133492 322576 29% / devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev /dev/da0s1d 1012974 123400 808538 13% /var /dev/da1s1d 46287340 31254004 11330350 73% /usr devfs 1 1 0 100% /var/named/dev I think I know what happened here; the question is whether this is going to hurt anything before I get a change to reboot. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 04:41:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C6416A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 04:41:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 97DF643D54 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 04:41:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from donp@mindspring.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.16.1.34?) (tungten@sbcglobal.net@69.111.111.187 with plain) by smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2004 04:41:47 -0000 Message-ID: <41CB9ED9.7080003@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:45:13 -0800 From: Donald Perkovich User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dmitry Ivanov References: <41C90AA7.5050508@mindspring.com> <20041222075308.GA1305@bigiron.solutions.lv> In-Reply-To: <20041222075308.GA1305@bigiron.solutions.lv> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No Gnome Text X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 04:41:48 -0000 I installed gimp from ports and was very suprised to see that it looks fine. It has all the text in the menus and everywhere. I am not sure how reliable this is for dependency checking, but I found that a 'make clean' will try to clean all the ports on which it depends. This seems to produces a nice list of port dependencies. What I noticed was that gimp does not use pango and that everything that has a problem does. So I think the problem lies here somewhere. I tried to update it in hopes that the new set up would maybe fix whatever went wrong. Silly me. Now I have a library dependecy problem and gnome-session fails on a pango lib dependency. I have my use data backed up, so now my question is: How do I completely remove gnome so I can reinstall it? (To solve/avoid any and all dependency issues.) Don Dmitry Ivanov wrote: > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 09:48:23PM -0800, Donald Perkovich wrote: > >>are there, thie icons are there, but no text. Applications that aren't >>gnome apps display text normally. For example gEdit has no text in its >>menus, but NEdit looks normal. > > > Are non-Gnome GTK2 apps like GIMP or Tea affcted too? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 04:46:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E1416A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 04:46:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A4643D45; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 04:46:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20041224044618i9100rg29me>; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 04:46:27 +0000 Message-ID: <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:46:14 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Richards References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: Daniel Blendea cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: jsha cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 04:46:28 -0000 >>From a business perspective we look amateurish. > > I REALLY REALLY agree with this point, from the prospective of an outsider the website and "Image" conveys a real lack of professionalism, which is not true. I'm looking at the start page for FreeBSD right now and here are the things I do not like about it (please don't be offended if I step on toe's and ego's, I am only trying to better FreeBSD): 1. The "FreeBSD" logo is crap, not beastie (he's a keeper!!!, I'll hunt you down and do bad things to you if you take him away!), Just the black wannabe (and badly done) 3D effect "FreeBSD" part, really, I hate it. Redo the whole logo in photoshop with a bold, antialiased modern web font: (Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Century Gothic, etc.) and forget the whole 3D effect as that is so 90s. Generally all of your logo designs are unprofessional (the logos at the bottom of the page: FreeBSD MALL, UseNix, Daemon News, and Powered by FreeBSD for example) 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of Cascading Style Sheets?) 3. The color scheme is not "complementary" anyone who has been to art school or taken design classes will know what I talking about, read up about basic color theory here: http://www.color-wheel-pro.com/color-theory-basics.html (again, ever here of Cascading Style Sheets??) 4. I like the Beastie logo on the boot loader screen but ASCII art is unprofessional... It would be better if you made the color ASCII beastie the default. I have no real issues with the layout of the site and it would be nice if the installer was more user friendly but I am content with the way it is, maybe you should change the color scheme of the installer to match the website? Here are some example sites: http://m0n0.ch/wall/screens/system.png http://www.mozilla.org/ http://www.horde.org/logos/ http://www.xfce.org/ http://www.gnome.org/ http://www.gimp.org/ http://www.php.net/ http://freebsd.kde.org/ http://www.google.com/ http://www.apache.org/ http://www.adobe.com/ http://www.openoffice.org/ http://www.sun.com/ http://www.suse.com/ http://www.novell.com/ http://www.ibm.com/ http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ http://www.mysql.com/ http://cocoon.apache.org/ http://www.w3.org/ http://www.penguincomputing.com/ FreeBSD is badly in need of a PR/Design/Marketing department. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 05:01:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C3916A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:01:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE68D43D46; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:01:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0090260E2; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:01:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 44906-06; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:01:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C10360CD; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:01:38 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:02:13 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041218) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikolas Britton References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.0 (20041102) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: Daniel Blendea cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: jsha cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Paul Richards Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:01:46 -0000 Nikolas Britton wrote: > >>> From a business perspective we look amateurish. >> I have held off thus far... >> > I REALLY REALLY agree with this point, from the prospective of an > outsider the website and "Image" conveys a real lack of professionalism, > which is not true. No you don't - would you prefer multi-colored windows? A penguin? What? Are we looking into the geo-political correctness as in the like as the NetBSD project took? > I'm looking at the start page for FreeBSD right now and here are the > things I do not like about it (please don't be offended if I step on > toe's and ego's, I am only trying to better FreeBSD): Here we go - Let's just re engineer life as we know it. Lets also not offend gays, users of color, males, females, users of religion, users of no religion, users of Windows, users of Linux, users of DOS, users of NetWare, etc, etc, etc. > 1. The "FreeBSD" logo is crap, not beastie (he's a keeper!!!, I'll hunt > you down and do bad things to you if you take him away!), Just the black > wannabe (and badly done) 3D effect "FreeBSD" part, really, I hate it. > Redo the whole logo in photoshop with a bold, antialiased modern web > font: (Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Century Gothic, etc.) and forget the > whole 3D effect as that is so 90s. Generally all of your logo designs > are unprofessional (the logos at the bottom of the page: FreeBSD MALL, > UseNix, Daemon News, and Powered by FreeBSD for example) You will do no such thing - see above, read the threads on the NetBSD site as to the redoing of the "logo" > 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site with a > modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of Cascading > Style Sheets?) CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a Windows thing? > 3. The color scheme is not "complementary" anyone who has been to art > school or taken design classes will know what I talking about, read up > about basic color theory here: > http://www.color-wheel-pro.com/color-theory-basics.html (again, ever > here of Cascading Style Sheets??) Guess what mate - most of us are NOT into art. Get real. Deal with the OS, not the look and feel of the site. Do I really care if a design has passion blue opposed to blue? Do you really thing techies are THAT into pastels? If you want to re design something (Actually - is sounds like you have been watching way too much TLC) then get a gig on Monster House. > 4. I like the Beastie logo on the boot loader screen but ASCII art is > unprofessional... It would be better if you made the color ASCII beastie > the default. Who cares?!?! It's resource friendly tho... > I have no real issues with the layout of the site and it would be nice > if the installer was more user friendly but I am content with the way it > is, maybe you should change the color scheme of the installer to match > the website? Snip - not worth repeating. > FreeBSD is badly in need of a PR/Design/Marketing department. Maybe you can start, The Queer-Eye for the BSD-Guy. -- Best regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 05:20:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0947616A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:20:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out007.verizon.net (out007pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE5F43D1D for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:20:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reso3w83@verizon.net) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.26.84.7]) by out007.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041224052022.UDZQ27681.out007.verizon.net@ringworm.mechee.com> for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:20:22 -0600 Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E90992CE740; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:17:33 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:17:26 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412232117.30199.reso3w83@verizon.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out007.verizon.net from [4.26.84.7] at Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:20:22 -0600 Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:20:24 -0000 On Thursday 23 December 2004 08:46 pm, Nikolas Britton wrote: > >>From a business perspective we look amateurish. > > I REALLY REALLY agree with this point, from the prospective of an > outsider the website and "Image" conveys a real lack of > professionalism, which is not true. > > I'm looking at the start page for FreeBSD right now and here are the > things I do not like about it (please don't be offended if I step on > toe's and ego's, I am only trying to better FreeBSD): > > 1. The "FreeBSD" logo is crap, not beastie (he's a keeper!!!, I'll > hunt you down and do bad things to you if you take him away!), Just > the black wannabe (and badly done) 3D effect "FreeBSD" part, really, > I hate it. Redo the whole logo in photoshop with a bold, antialiased > modern web font: (Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Century Gothic, etc.) > and forget the whole 3D effect as that is so 90s. Generally all of > your logo designs are unprofessional (the logos at the bottom of the > page: FreeBSD MALL, UseNix, Daemon News, and Powered by FreeBSD for > example) > > 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site > with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of > Cascading Style Sheets?) > > 3. The color scheme is not "complementary" anyone who has been to art > school or taken design classes will know what I talking about, read > up about basic color theory here: > http://www.color-wheel-pro.com/color-theory-basics.html (again, ever > here of Cascading Style Sheets??) > > 4. I like the Beastie logo on the boot loader screen but ASCII art is > unprofessional... It would be better if you made the color ASCII > beastie the default. > > I have no real issues with the layout of the site and it would be > nice if the installer was more user friendly but I am content with > the way it is, maybe you should change the color scheme of the > installer to match the website? > > Here are some example sites: > http://m0n0.ch/wall/screens/system.png > http://www.mozilla.org/ > http://www.horde.org/logos/ > http://www.xfce.org/ > http://www.gnome.org/ > http://www.gimp.org/ > http://www.php.net/ > http://freebsd.kde.org/ > http://www.google.com/ > http://www.apache.org/ > http://www.adobe.com/ > http://www.openoffice.org/ > http://www.sun.com/ > http://www.suse.com/ > http://www.novell.com/ > http://www.ibm.com/ > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ > http://www.mysql.com/ > http://cocoon.apache.org/ > http://www.w3.org/ > http://www.penguincomputing.com/ > > FreeBSD is badly in need of a PR/Design/Marketing department. I hate to see FreeBSD to something like my once favorite news site (www.antiwar.com) did. Early on they had a website that wasn't at all artistic, but they always had links to great news stories and updated those several time a day. A while back they re-did the site into a politically correct artsie fashion as you are suggestion FreeBSD do. Ever since that so called upgrade many of there links remain for days at a time and none are updated more than once a day, my guess is the site with all of its wonderful graphics is a real pain in the butt to update now. I seldom visit the site because it is no longer usefull. So for me it seems it is not the artwork that brings me to a site, rather it is the quality of content and FreeBSD's content quality is good right now, I hope no one messes it up. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 05:40:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CA116A4CF for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:40:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail6.speakeasy.net (mail6.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A03443D46 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:40:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: (qmail 6709 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2004 05:40:05 -0000 Received: from gate.funkthat.com (HELO hydrogen.funkthat.com) ([69.17.45.168]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Dec 2004 05:40:05 -0000 Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (kjofyb@localhost.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1])iBO5e2GH065965; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id iBO5e0MG065948; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:40:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:40:00 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Nikolas Britton Message-ID: <20041224054000.GL19624@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Nikolas Britton , Paul Richards , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Daniel Blendea , freebsd-www@freebsd.org, jsha , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: Daniel Blendea cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: jsha cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Paul Richards Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:40:06 -0000 Nikolas Britton wrote this message on Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 22:46 -0600: > 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site with a > modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of Cascading > Style Sheets?) you mean a sans-serif font? yes, most computer display fonts should be sans-serif since the screen resolution does not always allow you to do that... (and Helvetica isn't that modern, about 50 years old now it appears)... As for CSS, it appears that we do use CSS on the site: And part of CSS is letting people choose what font they want to display the site in... It appears at least Mozilla chooses Times by default... So I'd more complain to the browers that display with the default font.. -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 05:58:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED8416A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:58:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postit.mail.adnap.net.au (postit.mail.adnap.net.au [203.6.132.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D113E43D2F; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:58:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bastill@adam.com.au) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (202-6-154-250.ip.adam.com.au [202.6.154.250]) by postit.mail.adnap.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E551C449; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:28:03 +1030 (CST) From: Brian Astill To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:27:51 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200412241627.51795.bastill@adam.com.au> cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: Daniel Blendea cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: jsha cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: Nikolas Britton cc: Paul Richards Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:58:06 -0000 On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:46 pm, Nikolas Britton wrote: > FreeBSD is badly in need of a PR/Design/Marketing department. > _______________________________________________ It also needs people who realise that multiple cross-posting is deprecated. Could this conversation please be moved to -advocacy and ONLY to -advocacy? Thanks. -- Regards, Brian sos-sa.org.au From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 06:02:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57B716A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:02:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA51F43D1D for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:02:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jayobrien@worldnet.att.net) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (dsl093-180-184.sac1.dsl.speakeasy.net[66.93.180.184]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with ESMTP id <2004122406020111200mhc7de> (Authid: jayobrien@att.net); Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:02:01 +0000 Message-ID: <41CBB0D6.6080807@att.net> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:01:58 -0800 From: Jay O'Brien User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD - questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: portupgrade vs. portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:02:24 -0000 I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports cvsup. Following the Dru Lavigne article on portupgrade at http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=1 I installed portupgrade and then ran portsdb -Uu. It errored out, telling me that I shouldn't use my "refuse" file that stopped the non- english docs and ports from being loaded on my HD. In trying to understand this issue, I found portmanager, and it looks like it would perform the same function as portupgrade. My questions: Is there a way around the "refuse" file prohibition, perhaps with portmanager? Does portmanager replace portupgrade? Jay O'Brien Rio Linda, California, USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 06:02:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C666C16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:02:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9701543D2D for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:02:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E95B5518DA; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:02:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:02:58 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20041224060258.GA90273@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <16843.38665.825694.347991@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="envbJBWh7q8WU6mo" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <16843.38665.825694.347991@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: df reports multiple devfs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:02:59 -0000 --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 11:11:53PM -0500, Robert Huff wrote: >=20 > huff@>> df > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/da0s1a 495726 133492 322576 29% / > devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev > /dev/da0s1d 1012974 123400 808538 13% /var > /dev/da1s1d 46287340 31254004 11330350 73% /usr > devfs 1 1 0 100% /var/named/dev >=20 > I think I know what happened here; the question is whether this > is going to hurt anything before I get a change to reboot. It's normal; named is enabled on your machine, and needs certain devices to run in the /var/named chroot. Kris --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBy7ESWry0BWjoQKURAvUUAJwKAIOe3/DUoOWxQPAfItflNfc3ZACfZO/9 QRVFs5nNpgaA77PmVdTKhpg= =L7qF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 06:04:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A667316A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:04:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4733543D48 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:04:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BCA7251255; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:04:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:04:34 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Jay O'Brien Message-ID: <20041224060434.GB90273@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41CBB0D6.6080807@att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41CBB0D6.6080807@att.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD - questions Subject: Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:04:35 -0000 --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 10:01:58PM -0800, Jay O'Brien wrote: > I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports cvsup.=20 > Following the Dru Lavigne article on portupgrade at=20 > http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=3D1 > I installed portupgrade and then ran portsdb -Uu. It errored out,=20 > telling me that I shouldn't use my "refuse" file that stopped the non- > english docs and ports from being loaded on my HD. >=20 > In trying to understand this issue, I found portmanager, and it looks=20 > like it would perform the same function as portupgrade.=20 >=20 > My questions: Is there a way around the "refuse" file prohibition,=20 > perhaps with portmanager? Does portmanager replace portupgrade?=20 If you refuse parts of the ports collection, it's impossible for you to build a consistent INDEX from it, which is what portsdb -uU does. If you don't actually want to rebuild your own index, you can use 'make fetchindex' instead. Kris --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBy7FyWry0BWjoQKURApj+AJ45eUY+6ZQnPUEbOw5vCgDe5lLX8gCg5wEN dBH8ClyA3/0Af5AtyUrF2mk= =Y0JQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 06:09:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D4716A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:09:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C15943D2F; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:09:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20041224060933i9100rfpj2e>; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:09:34 +0000 Message-ID: <41CBB299.4020707@nbritton.org> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:09:29 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: Daniel Blendea cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: jsha cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Paul Richards Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:09:36 -0000 Chris wrote: > Nikolas Britton wrote: > >> >>>> From a business perspective we look amateurish. >>> >>> > > I have held off thus far... > >>> >> I REALLY REALLY agree with this point, from the prospective of an >> outsider the website and "Image" conveys a real lack of >> professionalism, which is not true. > > > No you don't - would you prefer multi-colored windows? A penguin? What? hmm?, fuck no I hate penguins (esp Linux ones), there's nothing wrong with chucky > Are we looking into the geo-political correctness as in the like as > the NetBSD project took? No, just a better image in the enterprises and data centers of the world. > >> I'm looking at the start page for FreeBSD right now and here are the >> things I do not like about it (please don't be offended if I step on >> toe's and ego's, I am only trying to better FreeBSD): > > > Here we go - Let's just re engineer life as we know it. Lets also not > offend gays, users of color, males, females, users of religion, users > of no religion, users of Windows, users of Linux, users of DOS, users > of NetWare, etc, etc, etc. How did you extrapolate that from what I said? I guess I did step your toe's and ego, I was only trying to give constructive criticism. > >> 1. The "FreeBSD" logo is crap, not beastie (he's a keeper!!!, I'll >> hunt you down and do bad things to you if you take him away!), Just >> the black wannabe (and badly done) 3D effect "FreeBSD" part, really, >> I hate it. Redo the whole logo in photoshop with a bold, antialiased >> modern web font: (Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Century Gothic, etc.) >> and forget the whole 3D effect as that is so 90s. Generally all of >> your logo designs are unprofessional (the logos at the bottom of the >> page: FreeBSD MALL, UseNix, Daemon News, and Powered by FreeBSD for >> example) > > > You will do no such thing - see above, read the threads on the NetBSD > site as to the redoing of the "logo" I DON'T want it "redesigned" (like NetBSD did) just re-done... same logo just better looking, image is everything you know. > >> 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site >> with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of >> Cascading Style Sheets?) > > > CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a Windows thing? No, it's a web standard: http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/ also it would be a good idea to look into XHTML: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/ > >> 3. The color scheme is not "complementary" anyone who has been to art >> school or taken design classes will know what I talking about, read >> up about basic color theory here: >> http://www.color-wheel-pro.com/color-theory-basics.html (again, ever >> here of Cascading Style Sheets??) > > > Guess what mate - most of us are NOT into art. Yes I can tell, I was trying to offer some helpfull tips > Get real. Deal with the OS, not the look and feel of the site. Do I > really care if a design has passion blue opposed to blue? Yes > > Do you really thing techies are THAT into pastels? I don't like pastels ether, to girly, I like bold and neutral colors. > If you want to re design something (Actually - is sounds like you have > been watching way too much TLC) then get a gig on Monster House. I watch the history channel most of the time or the courses offered by the local college on channel 20 , I really think TLC has gone down hill with all the trading spaces type shows, though page is cute. It's just that I've always had a good eye for this type of stuff. > > >> 4. I like the Beastie logo on the boot loader screen but ASCII art is >> unprofessional... It would be better if you made the color ASCII >> beastie the default. > > > Who cares?!?! It's resource friendly tho... That is true. > >> I have no real issues with the layout of the site and it would be >> nice if the installer was more user friendly but I am content with >> the way it is, maybe you should change the color scheme of the >> installer to match the website? > > > Snip - not worth repeating. > >> FreeBSD is badly in need of a PR/Design/Marketing department. > > > Maybe you can start, The Queer-Eye for the BSD-Guy. If thats what it takes to get FreeBSD out of obscurity and into the enterprise then yes I will, just look at what apple did with BSD and mozilla did with firefox, I don't want to see FreeBSD (or the other BSDs) die into obscurity as I really like them. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 06:12:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB7B16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:12:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from levanto.mail.adnap.net.au (levanto.mail.adnap.net.au [203.6.132.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4341943D31 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:12:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bastill@adam.com.au) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (202-6-154-250.ip.adam.com.au [202.6.154.250]) by levanto.mail.adnap.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001AB609A for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:40:41 +1030 (CST) From: Brian Astill To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:41:47 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <003501c4e842$2f46c830$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> <200412230809.31238.bastill@adam.com.au> <41CAD2A0.1070806@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <41CAD2A0.1070806@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200412241641.47130.bastill@adam.com.au> Subject: Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:12:00 -0000 On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:13 am, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Ah. A crucial bit of information that was missing from the original > post. Standard practice in that case is to create a partition on the > system with a filesystem that both OSes can read and write. Between > Windows and FreeBSD that boils down to msdosfs, or in Windows-speak > FAT32. (FAT12 and FAT16 are also supported, but why on earth would > you want to use them if FAT32 works?) Sounds fine - BUT! M$ being M$ even different versions of Windoze cannot read different M$ files. eg WinNT cannot read FAT32. The NTFS in XP is different from that in WinNT. Other versions of Windoze cannot read either of the NTFS versions. The only "universal" is FAT16, which limits you to 2G partitions. So ... if your flavour of Windoze can read FAT32, a FAT32 partition is a very good idea because all the commonly-available unices can read it as well. If it can't ... the options aren't so good. I'd think ext2 would be the only workable alternative to FAT16, but neither is desirable. BTW, I haven't found one, but does anyone have a way to make WinNT read FAT32? -- Regards, Brian sos-sa.org.au From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 06:22:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE00F16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:22:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A6143D1F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:22:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-197-67.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com ([209.6.197.67] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #7) id 1Chiq7-0007Dw-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:22:15 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16843.46159.585840.119551@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:16:47 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041224060258.GA90273@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <16843.38665.825694.347991@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20041224060258.GA90273@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta16) "celeriac" XEmacs Lucid Subject: Re: df reports multiple devfs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:22:16 -0000 Kris Kennaway writes: > It's normal; named is enabled on your machine, and needs certain > devices to run in the /var/named chroot. As I thought. So if I disable the chrooting of named, this should disappear? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 06:23:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A54616A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:23:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cyclone.mail.adnap.net.au (cyclone.mail.adnap.net.au [203.6.132.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C8243D49 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:23:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bastill@adam.com.au) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (202-6-154-250.ip.adam.com.au [202.6.154.250]) by cyclone.mail.adnap.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F28698896 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:56:56 +1030 (CST) From: Brian Astill To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:53:30 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <003501c4e842$2f46c830$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> <200412230809.31238.bastill@adam.com.au> <41CAD2A0.1070806@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <41CAD2A0.1070806@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200412241653.30104.bastill@adam.com.au> Subject: Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:23:43 -0000 On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:13 am, Matthew Seaman wrote: > See newfs_msdos(8), fsck_msdosfs(8), mount_msdosfs(8), msdosfs(5) I had a go with Mr Google and found www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/utilities.shtml Which allowed me to download "fat32.exe" which allegedly will allow NT to read/write but not create or format FAT32 partitions. If it works as claimed, could solve all problems I mentioned earlier. -- Regards, Brian sos-sa.org.au From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 06:28:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DB416A4CF for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:28:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C856743D1D for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:28:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micologist@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so89633rnz for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:28:20 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pPfxU5/KmOWt/ygngb00eaJL5+o6t7J4u8D+jkLHv1/0fEFnOQyeZ9UO4cw5WVJc2FXJlyG6Fvm+Jm0J/Tikfmj/pSy99fINjHznReryARhay5i0NwyIxibaV5gHhgjjWZ09e01E8zCPlv0LzBFc+Vm1m6HXp0FyuV8he5VN+YQ= Received: by 10.38.26.40 with SMTP id 40mr185140rnz; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:28:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.8.51 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:28:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7227803f041223222861547e39@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:28:20 -0500 From: David Vincelli To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Pioneer DVR-108 can burn DVDs, can't mount them! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David Vincelli List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:28:21 -0000 Hi, I'm using FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE with a custom kernel I just compiled a few days ago to have the atapicam device (the only difference with the stock kernel). I added hw.ata.atapi_dma="1" to /boot/loader.conf, and indeed the device is accessed in UltraDMA mode 2. My DVD burner is a Pioneer DVR-108 with the latest firmware at this time (1.18). I can burn DVDs using growisofs but I get a vague input/output error when I try to mount them. (mount failed: input/output error, if I recall correctly). The command I use to mount is: mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0 /mnt. It seems I cannot mount DVDs at all, even originals. I was wondering if the drive was defective so I tried it under a windows environment and it could read the DVDs fine, even the ones I created under FreeBSD. I'd give you a full listing of the full error that would swamp the (real) console when I tried to mount the DVDs but I don't have access to the box right now. It was a scsi error. asq 8,3 is one of them from what I remember :) Has anyone seen this before? Thanks, -- David Vincelli From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 06:43:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B23D16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:43:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out011.verizon.net (out011pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CDC43D31 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:43:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reso3w83@verizon.net) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.26.84.7]) by out011.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041224064357.YQOA4717.out011.verizon.net@ringworm.mechee.com> for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:43:57 -0600 Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F2E6A2CE740; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:41:11 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:41:11 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <41CBB0D6.6080807@att.net> In-Reply-To: <41CBB0D6.6080807@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412232241.11509.reso3w83@verizon.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out011.verizon.net from [4.26.84.7] at Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:43:57 -0600 Subject: Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:43:58 -0000 On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: > I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports cvsup. > Following the Dru Lavigne article on portupgrade at > http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=1 > I installed portupgrade and then ran portsdb -Uu. It errored out, > telling me that I shouldn't use my "refuse" file that stopped the > non- english docs and ports from being loaded on my HD. > > In trying to understand this issue, I found portmanager, and it looks > like it would perform the same function as portupgrade. > > My questions: Is there a way around the "refuse" file prohibition, > perhaps with portmanager? Does portmanager replace portupgrade? portmanager doesn't require the INDEX files to keep ports up to date, so the refuse file is a non issue with it. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 06:44:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E841816A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:44:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9794643D39 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:44:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20041224064458i9100rfhofe>; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:44:59 +0000 Message-ID: <41CBBAE6.1060204@nbritton.org> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:44:54 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael C. Shultz" References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <200412232117.30199.reso3w83@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <200412232117.30199.reso3w83@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:45:00 -0000 Michael C. Shultz wrote: >I hate to see FreeBSD to something like my once favorite news site >(www.antiwar.com) did. Early on they had a website that wasn't at all >artistic, but they always had links to great news stories and updated >those several time a day. > >A while back they re-did the site into a politically correct artsie >fashion as you are suggestion FreeBSD do. Ever since that so called >upgrade many of there links remain for days at a time and none are >updated more than once a day, my guess is the site with all of its >wonderful graphics is a real pain in the butt to update now. I seldom >visit the site because it is no longer usefull. > >So for me it seems it is not the artwork that brings me to a site, >rather it is the quality of content and FreeBSD's content quality is >good right now, I hope no one messes it up. > > I agree with you there, content if the be-all end-all on the web. And I'm not suggesting we turn the freebsd site into an arty website with spiffy graphics and flash crap all over the place, in fact I want the opposite. I advocate minimalism with a clean cohesive style that doesn't get in the way of content yet conveys a "professional" image of who we are to outsiders and prospective users. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 06:48:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3262316A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:48:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F55A43D1D; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:48:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20041224064759i9100rfo80e>; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:48:01 +0000 Message-ID: <41CBBB9A.5000001@nbritton.org> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:47:54 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John-Mark Gurney References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <20041224054000.GL19624@funkthat.com> In-Reply-To: <20041224054000.GL19624@funkthat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: Daniel Blendea cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: jsha cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Paul Richards Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:48:02 -0000 John-Mark Gurney wrote: >Nikolas Britton wrote this message on Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 22:46 -0600: > > >>2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site with a >>modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of Cascading >>Style Sheets?) >> >> > >you mean a sans-serif font? yes, most computer display fonts should >be sans-serif since the screen resolution does not always allow you to >do that... (and Helvetica isn't that modern, about 50 years old now >it appears)... > > Yes >As for CSS, it appears that we do use CSS on the site: > > >And part of CSS is letting people choose what font they want to display >the site in... It appears at least Mozilla chooses Times by default... >So I'd more complain to the browers that display with the default font.. > > > learn something new everyday, thanks for the tip. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 06:52:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88BE216A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:52:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail3.sa.chariot.net.au (mail3.sa.chariot.net.au [203.87.94.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C44CC43D1D for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:52:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imoore@picknowl.com.au) Received: from jupiter.picknowl.com.au (jupiter.picknowl.com.au [203.87.94.38]) by mail3.sa.chariot.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA53A4452; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:22:30 +1030 (CST) Received: from daemon.foo.com (adsl-176-70.swiftdsl.com.au [218.214.176.70]) by jupiter.picknowl.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93C596849; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:22:29 +1030 (CST) From: Ian Moore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, David Vincelli Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:22:16 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <7227803f041223222861547e39@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7227803f041223222861547e39@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2400569.kZHlUW0XRG"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200412241722.28723.imoore@picknowl.com.au> Subject: Re: Pioneer DVR-108 can burn DVDs, can't mount them! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:52:31 -0000 --nextPart2400569.kZHlUW0XRG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:58, David Vincelli wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE with a custom kernel I just compiled a > few days ago to have the atapicam device (the only difference with the > stock kernel). I added hw.ata.atapi_dma=3D"1" to /boot/loader.conf, and > indeed the device is accessed in UltraDMA mode 2. My DVD burner is a > Pioneer DVR-108 with the latest firmware at this time (1.18). I can > burn DVDs using growisofs but I get a vague input/output error when I > try to mount them. (mount failed: input/output error, if I recall > correctly). The command I use to mount is: mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0 > /mnt. It seems I cannot mount DVDs at all, even originals. I was > wondering if the drive was defective so I tried it under a windows > environment and it could read the DVDs fine, even the ones I created > under FreeBSD. I'd give you a full listing of the full error that > would swamp the (real) console when I tried to mount the DVDs but I > don't have access to the box right now. It was a scsi error. asq 8,3 > is one of them from what I remember :) > > Has anyone seen this before? Hi Vince, I bought the same DVD drive a few weeks ago & it works just fine on my=20 5.3-RELEASE system. I can watch DVDs, mount a DVD-ROM & I've burnt a DVD-RW= =20 successfully. There's nothing special in my kernel except ATAPICAM support. I mount it as a SCSI device, so maybe it's worth trying that on your system? Cheers, =2D-=20 Ian GPG Key: http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/imoore/imoore.asc --nextPart2400569.kZHlUW0XRG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBy7ysfITqkXhImmIRApWFAKCUeTv+5xNpwJh8ToAahelyX5UsYACffr0r YmmkjeR0oi4MOyCFVrtzIOY= =eP+k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2400569.kZHlUW0XRG-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 06:56:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7778216A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:56:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail3.sa.chariot.net.au (mail3.sa.chariot.net.au [203.87.94.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF1E43D39 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:56:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imoore@picknowl.com.au) Received: from jupiter.picknowl.com.au (jupiter.picknowl.com.au [203.87.94.38]) by mail3.sa.chariot.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B92A44ED; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:26:27 +1030 (CST) Received: from daemon.foo.com (adsl-176-70.swiftdsl.com.au [218.214.176.70]) by jupiter.picknowl.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5196A9685B; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:26:27 +1030 (CST) From: Ian Moore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:26:25 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <7227803f041223222861547e39@mail.gmail.com> <200412241722.28723.imoore@picknowl.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200412241722.28723.imoore@picknowl.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1410647.YyQEmW8NXW"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200412241726.26284.imoore@picknowl.com.au> cc: David Vincelli Subject: Re: Pioneer DVR-108 can burn DVDs, can't mount them! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:56:28 -0000 --nextPart1410647.YyQEmW8NXW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:22, Ian Moore wrote: > Hi Vince, Oops, I mean David - sorry, I didn't read your name properly. =2D-=20 Ian GPG Key: http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/imoore/imoore.asc --nextPart1410647.YyQEmW8NXW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBy72afITqkXhImmIRAvNCAJ494DEGT21cAbp3oESXNJ/gRxt5hQCfYTuS TcrYDZSWVrysyCd13GgTtcU= =tiwO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1410647.YyQEmW8NXW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 06:56:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C9C16A4DA for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:56:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F5743D46 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:56:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from conover@rahul.net) Received: from green.rahul.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 76D23BE8CD for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:56:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29368 invoked by uid 4199); 24 Dec 2004 06:55:12 -0000 Date: 24 Dec 2004 06:55:12 -0000 Message-ID: <20041224065512.29367.qmail@rahul.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: conover@rahul.net (John Conover) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: sendmail running on localhost 25? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Conover List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:56:32 -0000 I just installed 5.2.1, and after installing qmail, I still have sendmail running on localhost 25; even though I have sendmail_enable="NO" in /etc/conf. Where is it launched? I don't see it in any /etc/rc* files. Thanks, John -- John Conover, conover@rahul.net, http://www.johncon.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 07:00:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C55516A507 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:00:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from green.rahul.net (green.rahul.net [192.160.13.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB2A43D3F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:00:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from conover@rahul.net) Received: from green.rahul.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by green.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E03BBE8BE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:00:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29476 invoked by uid 4199); 24 Dec 2004 06:59:17 -0000 Date: 24 Dec 2004 06:59:17 -0000 Message-ID: <20041224065917.29475.qmail@rahul.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: conover@rahul.net (John Conover) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Mystery message from mystery cron X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Conover List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:00:42 -0000 Root's inbox gets the message at the bottom about every half hour, or so. There is nothing in /var/cron/tabs, so I can't find out what's causing it. Any suggestions? Thanks, John -- John Conover, conover@rahul.net, http://www.johncon.com/ >From operator@wxyz.com Thu Dec 23 22:55:00 2004 Return-Path: Received: from wxyz.com (localhost.johncon.com [127.0.0.1]) by wxyz.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBO6t0Kb017516 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:55:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from operator@wxyz.com) Received: (from operator@localhost) by wxyz.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id iBO6t0PH017495; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:55:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from operator) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:55:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200412240655.iBO6t0PH017495@wxyz.com> From: operator@wxyz.com (Cron Daemon) To: operator@wxyz.com Subject: Cron /usr/libexec/save-entropy X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: Status: R [1] 17493 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 07:07:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046FA16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:07:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EAF743D46 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:07:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) iBO77Bv63337; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:07:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:07:10 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200412231732.12666.jaymo@cromagnon.cullmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: The FreeBSD Foundation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:07:15 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Jay Moore [mailto:jaymo@cromagnon.cullmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 3:32 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Foundation > > > > Yes - I buy from FreeBSD mall which I thought was run by Walnut > Creek. I've > had this subscription since 3.0 or 3.1... the cd's keep coming. > I'd say if > the new owners aren't giving the project the same cut as the > previous owners, > then maybe consider doing something else??? > The story here actually begins back in 1978 when 1BSD was created by UCB's CSRG as a fork of UNIX6. The BSD project continued at UCB for another 10 years. Towards the end of the project the maintainers saw the need to detoxify the open BSD code from AT&T's copyrighted UNIX source, and began an effort to do this. This effort completed with several things as a result - the release of the Net/2 tape, and the collapse of the CSRG. The primary movers and shakers at CSRG went on to become employees at a new startup company named BSDI which began marketing the Net/2 tape - except for one person, William Jolitz, who was opposed to this. William then commenced a project to port Net/2 to the Intel 80386 which resulted in the creation of 386BSD. By 1992 we had 2 parallel releases of BSD, one - the commercial one - by BSDI, the other, the free one 386BSD - by Jolitz. Unfortunately Jolitz had a different vision of the future of the free BSD release 386BSD. He broke with the community and the 386BSD release became impossible to work with. This resulted in the fork of 386BSD into 2 children - NetBSD and FreeBSD in 1993. NetBSD's charter was all BSD on all non-Intel platforms, FreeBSD's charter was only Intel platforms. This is when Walnut Creek CDROM came into the picture. W.C. had been founded by Bob Bruce who grew it through the 1990s. WC bought completely into FreeBSD, providing the build and hosting servers, and financial assistance to several developers. FreeBSD became Walnut Creek's flagship product and they eventually ran all their own servers on it. In it's heyday, ftp.cdrom.com became the single busiest and most powerful uniprocessor server on the Internet. While all this was going on, Keith Peterson created the Simtel archive on the Army's computers and later moved it to simtel.net which he retained rights to. Keith entered into a deal with Coast to Coast Telecommunications to host the Simtel.net archive. In December 1995, Keith had a falling out with CCT and was basically locked out of his server and collection by CCT. Keith then moved simtel.net and the original 1993 Simtel collection from the old Army computers (which he had archived) to Walnut Creek, later Walnut Creek obtained rights to the SimTel trademark from Keith. Over time they rebuilt the Simtel archive and ended up surpassing the CCT simtel collection. Eventually CCT's rights to use the Simtel trademark expired and they went away. The interesting details of this fight are here: http://www.softouch.on.ca/rc/simtel1.htm In the late 90's Bob Bruce saw that as DSL and larger hard disks came into vogue that the revenue from Walnut Creek/Simtel would diminish. By then the Simtel archive was eclipsing the FreeBSD distribution in commercial value. Bob began to take steps to separate the FreeBSD revenue stream from Simtel by creating freebsdmall.com In October 1999 Bob sold the entire Simtel archive and rights to Digital River for 4 million dollars in cash and stocks. Digital River then proceeded to build simtel.net into what it is today. In 2000, BSDI came back into the picture and purchased freebsdmall.com and the FreeBSD distribution CD business from Bob and cashed him out. In 2001, Wind River acquired BSDI from it's founders - ie: Marshall Kirk McKusick and cashed them out. It is interesting to note that Wind River is a major military supplier - and DARPA was the principle funder and motivator of the BSD project at UCB in the 80's. There have been many closed circles in BSD. ;-) In 2002 Wind River decided to stop selling the commercial BSDI distribution and they spun off everything having to do with FreeBSD including freebsdmall.com. Bob Bruce came back into the picture again and picked up freebsdmall.com which he currently owns and operates today. Wind River still has the BSDI copyright and presumably is using the commercial code in some product or other of theirs. In any case the BSDI fork of the Net/2 tape has pretty much died, as all the principle BSD developers have quit or been fired from Wind River, and from what I understand, many have gone to Apple Computer and are running the Darwin project, which is based on FreeBSD 3.2 (and NeXT) Darwin as everyone knows, is used as the base for MacOS X. Today, 'Walnut Creek' as far as I can tell remains a trademark of Digital River, who is not using it nor is using it's domain. It is pretty much a dead brand. I don't think that at this time that Digital River is contributing anything to any BSD. FreeBSDmall.com is a shadow of what Walnut Creek was in WC's heyday, and it is not hosting the FreeBSD Project servers. The FreeBSD project's servers went off elsewhere when Wind River acquired BSDI. Because of this it isn't reasonable to expect the same level of support from freebsdmall.com as happened in the past. And in any case, it's not needed now anyway. In the long view it is actually much better to have the support for the FreeBSD Project hosting, servers, and development staff support spread around much more widely instead of having the burden fall on one single organization as it did 10 years ago on Walnut Creek. If BSDI had remained a viable entity by itself and Wind River had never been in the picture, and the FreeBSD Project would have maintained the same dependency on BSDI, it would by now have seriously compromised the independent nature of the FreeBSD Project. After the BSDI acquisition of FreeBSD distribution from Walnut Creek, Marshall announced the codebase of FreeBSD and BSDI would be merged (this ended up never happening) and if that had happened, we could have ended up with another copyright dispute over copyrighted BSDI code in FreeBSD which would have poisoned the distribution's useability to commercial organizations. > > Now, as for the Foundation's status as a charity: > > > > I'll start with asking you a simple question: Setting aside the > > legal definitions, what in your mind IS a charity, exactly? > > Hey look - I don't need a lecture about charity, and I'm not > disputing that > the foundation is "legally" classified as a charity. I never said that you were disputing the legal definition. But clearly you are disputing the idea that it is a charity. > In my mind, I would > consider it more like a not-for-profit organization; charities are > organizations that help the needy - people who can't help themselves. > Well, that is why I made the Robin Hood remark. I will point out that the FreeBSD Foundation in fact uses the actual term "public charity" on their website. And certainly the Foundation doesen't attempt to pass itself off as using the money to help the poor. I am aware that many people don't view a charity as anything more than a needy-person-helping apparatus. However I urge you to examine your view of the idea of 'need' There are many people out there also who feel that much of the 'need' served by charities isn't really need it is choice. Many people are incensed that some charities feed alcoholic bums that spend their nights sleeping in the streets. Many would weigh the 'need' of FreeBSD to have a good Java implementation against the 'need' of an alcoholic to continue to be fed day after day without quitting drinking, and feel that the FreeBSD need was greater. > And by the way - that IS the dictionary definition of a charity. > I'm not sure > what dictionary you're reading from. > It is one of the dictionary definitions. But it is not the only definition. Marriam-Webster is what I'm using. Here is the link: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=charity&x=8&y=7 And the definition, section 3: "...3 a : a gift for public benevolent purposes b : an institution (as a hospital) founded by such a gift..." > > I think you are as full of shit as a Christmas goose, Ted. Thanks! I've never eaten a Christmas goose with any shit in it, so I must be pretty clean, then. ;-) > But in my opinion, calling the FreeBSD foundation a "charity" > denigrates the > project. That's my opinion, and I don't care to debate it. > I think your missing the fact that the FreeBSD Foundation isn't the same thing as the FreeBSD Project. If you think that calling the FreeBSD Foundation denigrates the FreeBSD Foundation, or is a misuse of the term Charity, or denigrates the idea of charity, that is your opinion and I won't debate it - other than to point out that you are wrong when you state that the FreeBSD foundation isn't a charity in the dictionary definition. If you think Marrian-Webster is wrong in their definition of the word charity then I encourage you to write them. But if you want to communicate with any logic or reasonableness you must accept that there are words and there are dictionaries and that words carry definitions that are in those dictionaries, and that when you talk or write about something in the English language you must accept those dictionaries as they currently stand. Arguing over word meaning is a semantics debate and I enjoy these very much - but let's not mix the two debates here, shall we? I will argue with you though when you state that calling the FreeBSD Foundation a charity is a denegration of the Project. It is not. The Project existed without the FreeBSD Foundation before, and if the Foundation cannot stand on it's own in the future, the FreeBSD Project will still be around. These are separate entities here. The FreeBSD Foundation is trying to do something they (and I) consider charitable to the FreeBSD Project - but the Foundation isn't the Project, and it is wrong to assume that it is. And furthermore the FreeBSD Foundation isn't the only way to financially contribute to FreeBSD. The Foundation has nothing to do with the hosting of freebsd.org, and many people have sent money and hardware directly to FreeBSD developers without involving the Foundation. I don't know how it is in other countries but here in the United States there is a tax advantage to donation to a 501(c)(3) 'charity' which is a significant incentive to many people to donate money. Many people feel why should their tax dollars go to supporting an "immoral war in Iraq", when they can divert some of them to a charity of their choice. You might regard the Foundation as a way of using the laws to cheat the US Government out of what should be going to them instead, and perhaps it is. But, given what the government is currently spending the money on, I think a lot of people would weigh the 'denegration' of the 501(c)(3) charity laws against the 'denegration' of States Rights that the current administration is involved in, and decide that one good denegration deserves another. ;-) Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 07:16:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6E016A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:16:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out012.verizon.net (out012pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D9D43D3F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:16:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reso3w83@verizon.net) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.26.84.7]) by out012.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041224071605.UZW10436.out012.verizon.net@ringworm.mechee.com> for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:16:05 -0600 Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AC92C2CE740; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:13:20 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:13:20 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <200412232117.30199.reso3w83@verizon.net> <41CBBAE6.1060204@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: <41CBBAE6.1060204@nbritton.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412232313.20378.reso3w83@verizon.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out012.verizon.net from [4.26.84.7] at Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:16:05 -0600 Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:16:07 -0000 On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:44 pm, Nikolas Britton wrote: > Michael C. Shultz wrote: > >I hate to see FreeBSD to something like my once favorite news site > >(www.antiwar.com) did. Early on they had a website that wasn't at > > all artistic, but they always had links to great news stories and > > updated those several time a day. > > > >A while back they re-did the site into a politically correct artsie > >fashion as you are suggestion FreeBSD do. Ever since that so called > >upgrade many of there links remain for days at a time and none are > >updated more than once a day, my guess is the site with all of its > >wonderful graphics is a real pain in the butt to update now. I > > seldom visit the site because it is no longer usefull. > > > >So for me it seems it is not the artwork that brings me to a site, > >rather it is the quality of content and FreeBSD's content quality is > >good right now, I hope no one messes it up. > > I agree with you there, content if the be-all end-all on the web. And > I'm not suggesting we turn the freebsd site into an arty website with > spiffy graphics and flash crap all over the place, in fact I want the > opposite. I advocate minimalism with a clean cohesive style that > doesn't get in the way of content yet conveys a "professional" image > of who we are to outsiders and prospective users. As long as the artwork does not get in the way of content, and you don't mess with "beastie" I say have at it if it means so much to you. That is sort of what FreeBSD is all about, you got an idea you know will make it better and you perserver with it long enough eventually one of the *powers that be* might incorporate it. Takes patience but if you really love the OS and never give up maybe you'll be the web site designer someday. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 07:16:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA72516A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:16:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5677043D31 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:16:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jayobrien@worldnet.att.net) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (dsl093-180-184.sac1.dsl.speakeasy.net[66.93.180.184]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with ESMTP id <2004122407164811200mhgkje> (Authid: jayobrien@att.net); Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:16:48 +0000 Message-ID: <41CBC255.2070309@att.net> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:16:37 -0800 From: Jay O'Brien User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael C. Shultz" References: <41CBB0D6.6080807@att.net> <200412232241.11509.reso3w83@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <200412232241.11509.reso3w83@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:16:53 -0000 Michael C. Shultz wrote: > On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: > >>I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports cvsup. >>Following the Dru Lavigne article on portupgrade at >>http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=1 >>I installed portupgrade and then ran portsdb -Uu. It errored out, >>telling me that I shouldn't use my "refuse" file that stopped the >>non- english docs and ports from being loaded on my HD. >> >>In trying to understand this issue, I found portmanager, and it looks >>like it would perform the same function as portupgrade. >> >>My questions: Is there a way around the "refuse" file prohibition, >>perhaps with portmanager? Does portmanager replace portupgrade? > > > portmanager doesn't require the INDEX files to keep ports up to date, so > the refuse file is a non issue with it. > > -Mike > Sounds good. What's the downside, if any, to using portmanager instead of portupgrade? Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 07:20:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939BA16A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:20:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F374943D2D; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:20:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) iBO7Kkv63386; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:20:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Nikolas Britton" , "Chris" Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:20:46 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <41CBB299.4020707@nbritton.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: Daniel Blendea cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: jsha cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Paul Richards Subject: RE: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:20:58 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Nikolas Britton > Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 10:09 PM > To: Chris > > > > Maybe you can start, The Queer-Eye for the BSD-Guy. > > If thats what it takes to get FreeBSD out of obscurity and into the > enterprise then yes I will, just look at what apple did with BSD and > mozilla did with firefox, I don't want to see FreeBSD (or the other > BSDs) die into obscurity as I really like them. > I think there's more FreeBSD installations than Apple installations, way, way more. Obscurity is in the eye of the beholder. And talk is cheap. The FreeBSD documentation team has already asked the FreeBSD community to do a site redesign, see here: http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/current.html#website-css Nobody has stepped up to do it. Since your so hot to redesign the site why don't you e-mail them and get going on doing it instead of talking about it? Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 07:40:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82EAE16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:40:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out014.verizon.net (out014pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB8143D41 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:40:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reso3w83@verizon.net) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.26.84.7]) by out014.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041224074055.CGXE28388.out014.verizon.net@ringworm.mechee.com> for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:40:55 -0600 Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 141AF2CE740; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:38:10 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:38:09 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <41CBB0D6.6080807@att.net> <200412232241.11509.reso3w83@verizon.net> <41CBC255.2070309@att.net> In-Reply-To: <41CBC255.2070309@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412232338.09555.reso3w83@verizon.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out014.verizon.net from [4.26.84.7] at Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:40:55 -0600 Subject: Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:40:56 -0000 On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:16 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: > Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: > >>I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports cvsup. > >>Following the Dru Lavigne article on portupgrade at > >>http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page > >>=1 I installed portupgrade and then ran portsdb -Uu. It errored > >> out, telling me that I shouldn't use my "refuse" file that stopped > >> the non- english docs and ports from being loaded on my HD. > >> > >>In trying to understand this issue, I found portmanager, and it > >> looks like it would perform the same function as portupgrade. > >> > >>My questions: Is there a way around the "refuse" file prohibition, > >>perhaps with portmanager? Does portmanager replace portupgrade? > > > > portmanager doesn't require the INDEX files to keep ports up to > > date, so the refuse file is a non issue with it. > > > > -Mike > > Sounds good. What's the downside, if any, to using portmanager > instead of portupgrade? > All of your ports will be built with the correct dependencies, they will work better leaving you less to complain about in the mail lists and so you will become bored. Because everything is working exactly as it should you may begin to think you are a Maytag repair man, nothing much to do, just always setting around waiting for something to break..... -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 07:53:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4429816A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:53:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail3.sa.chariot.net.au (mail3.sa.chariot.net.au [203.87.94.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B667A43D2F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:53:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imoore@picknowl.com.au) Received: from jupiter.picknowl.com.au (jupiter.picknowl.com.au [203.87.94.38]) by mail3.sa.chariot.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55628A3E11; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:23:36 +1030 (CST) Received: from daemon.foo.com (adsl-176-70.swiftdsl.com.au [218.214.176.70]) by jupiter.picknowl.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFEC9685C; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:23:35 +1030 (CST) From: Ian Moore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:23:27 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4089275.ZLzEfL2AgJ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200412241823.35063.imoore@picknowl.com.au> cc: jaymo@cromagnon.cullmail.com cc: Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Foundation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:53:38 -0000 --nextPart4089275.ZLzEfL2AgJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:37, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jay Moore [mailto:jaymo@cromagnon.cullmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 3:32 PM > > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Foundation > > > > > > > > Yes - I buy from FreeBSD mall which I thought was run by Walnut > > Creek. I've > > had this subscription since 3.0 or 3.1... the cd's keep coming. > > I'd say if > > the new owners aren't giving the project the same cut as the > > previous owners, > > then maybe consider doing something else??? > > The story here actually begins back in 1978 when 1BSD was created by > UCB's CSRG as a fork of UNIX6. The BSD project continued at UCB for Wow, that was a great bit of history, Ted. I love reading about the history= of=20 =46reeBSD & unix, almost as much as I love using FreeBSD! Cheers, =2D-=20 Ian GPG Key: http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/imoore/imoore.asc --nextPart4089275.ZLzEfL2AgJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBy8r/fITqkXhImmIRAiQ/AJ9uNr/xHnABWs4OJMMMqieEEeIQ3wCgpC1e SvLodIpGPZX18gIrzl0+ZHI= =DiHc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4089275.ZLzEfL2AgJ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 07:58:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B09F16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:58:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBBD43D31 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:58:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 873E751663; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:58:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:58:29 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20041224075829.GA20718@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <16843.38665.825694.347991@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20041224060258.GA90273@xor.obsecurity.org> <16843.46159.585840.119551@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <16843.46159.585840.119551@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: df reports multiple devfs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:58:30 -0000 --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 01:16:47AM -0500, Robert Huff wrote: >=20 > Kris Kennaway writes: >=20 > > It's normal; named is enabled on your machine, and needs certain > > devices to run in the /var/named chroot. >=20 > As I thought. So if I disable the chrooting of named, this > should disappear? I'd expect so, yes. Kris --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBy8wlWry0BWjoQKURAp3IAKCWG8BBdZHP54Why36N+5ovxKngOACfVpGQ h9g23Urdl6pOWBMEk9C0yB4= =Gpk2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 08:05:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD49216A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:05:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cromagnon.cullmail.com (cromagnon.cullmail.com [67.33.58.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EE443D3F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:05:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jamoore@cromagnon.cullmail.com) Received: from cromagnon.cullmail.com (localhost.cullmail.com [127.0.0.1]) iBO82axY063924; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:02:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jamoore@cromagnon.cullmail.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by cromagnon.cullmail.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id iBO82a02063923; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:02:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jamoore) From: Jay Moore To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:02:35 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200412240202.35504.jaymo@cromagnon.cullmail.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Foundation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jaymo@cromagnon.cullmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:05:18 -0000 On Friday 24 December 2004 01:07 am, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > Now, as for the Foundation's status as a charity: > > > > > > I'll start with asking you a simple question: Setting aside the > > > legal definitions, what in your mind IS a charity, exactly? > > > > Hey look - I don't need a lecture about charity, and I'm not > > disputing that > > the foundation is "legally" classified as a charity. > > I never said that you were disputing the legal definition. But > clearly you are disputing the idea that it is a charity. Yes, I am disputing that. It is not a charity except in the tax avoidance sense of the word. You are attempting to twist the words and their meaning to support your agenda. Under your selective interpretation of the definition, one could claim virtually anything as "a gift for public benevolent purposes". It's bullshit, Ted, and you may deny it here in this forum, but you know it is. > > In my mind, I would > > consider it more like a not-for-profit organization; charities are > > organizations that help the needy - people who can't help themselves. > > Well, that is why I made the Robin Hood remark. I will point out > that the FreeBSD Foundation in fact uses the actual term "public charity" > on their website. And certainly the > Foundation doesen't attempt to pass itself off as using the money > to help the poor. I am aware that many people don't view a > charity as anything more than a needy-person-helping apparatus. > However I urge you to examine your view of the idea of 'need' There > are many people out there also who feel that much of the 'need' > served by charities isn't really need it is choice. Many people > are incensed that some charities feed alcoholic bums that spend > their nights sleeping in the streets. Many would weigh the 'need' > of FreeBSD to have a good Java implementation against the 'need' > of an alcoholic to continue to be fed day after day without quitting > drinking, and feel that the FreeBSD need was greater. alcoholic bums?! Is this another example of your interpretation of charity? Are you really asking anyone to accept you as an authority on what charity means when you refer to alcoholics as bums? In case you forgot to read the _entire_ definition of charity, Ted, try # 4: "4 : lenient judgment of others". Frankly, I find your arrogance annoying. I'll say it again: I support FreeBSD through CD purchases, and would consider an outright cash donation. I think the project is a "good thing", and I also think it serves the public good. But it's not a charity, and neither is the Foundation that supports the project. I don't think you're a good spokesman for the project or the Foundation, and I wish you'd drop this thread now. Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 08:14:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86A116A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:14:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out011.verizon.net (out011pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2762443D53 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:14:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.252.53]) by out011.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041224081448.ZCMZ4717.out011.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:14:48 -0600 Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 921E611862; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:14:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:14:16 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041224081416.GB20482@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> <41CBB299.4020707@nbritton.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <41CBB299.4020707@nbritton.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out011.verizon.net from [68.163.252.53] at Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:14:48 -0600 Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:14:49 -0000 On 12/24/04 12:09 AM, Nikolas Britton sat at the `puter and typed: > Chris wrote: > > > Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > >> > >>>> From a business perspective we look amateurish. As opposed to, say, Microsoft? Everyone pushing this "new image" crap keeps forgetting one thing. This isn't a business. This is VOLUNTEERS working on their *own* time using their *own* resources to provide useful technology. Not a business. Who cares if "we" *look* amateurish? Anyone who can't see through the haze of Microsoft FUD to realize it's a serious OS gets what they deserve anyway. > > I have held off thus far... I haven't :) > >> I REALLY REALLY agree with this point, from the prospective of an > >> outsider the website and "Image" conveys a real lack of > >> professionalism, which is not true. > > > > > > No you don't - would you prefer multi-colored windows? A penguin? What? > > hmm?, fuck no I hate penguins (esp Linux ones), there's nothing wrong > with chucky Except his name isn't Chucky. He has no name, he's just Beastie. Google it, it's come up before. And I don't really think there's a struggle between *BSD and Linux. They're both Open Source sets of projects with basically the same goal, just with different paths. And I think Beastie is still better than a penguin or a blowfish. I DO think RedHat spends a bit too much money on marketing and image, and passing that expense on to the end user in whatever way they can, and this is why they've been on the receiving end of what I consider the lowest form of insult in the market - "the next Microsoft". > > Are we looking into the geo-political correctness as in the like as > > the NetBSD project took? > > No, just a better image in the enterprises and data centers of the world. Seems to me the datacenters around the world don't really care if they're choosing FreeBSD over WinBlows, which many are. > >> I'm looking at the start page for FreeBSD right now and here are the > >> things I do not like about it (please don't be offended if I step on > >> toe's and ego's, I am only trying to better FreeBSD): > > > > > > Here we go - Let's just re engineer life as we know it. Lets also not > > offend gays, users of color, males, females, users of religion, users > > of no religion, users of Windows, users of Linux, users of DOS, users > > of NetWare, etc, etc, etc. > > How did you extrapolate that from what I said? I guess I did step your > toe's and ego, I was only trying to give constructive criticism. Yes, maybe you were, but it's become clear in the last 3 or 4 years of following this list that constructive criticism is more welcome in relation to improving technology, not marketing strategy. > >> 1. The "FreeBSD" logo is crap, I disagree completely. > >> not beastie (he's a keeper!!!, I'll > >> hunt you down and do bad things to you if you take him away!), I agree completely. > >> Just > >> the black wannabe (and badly done) 3D effect "FreeBSD" part, really, > >> I hate it. Redo the whole logo in photoshop with a bold, antialiased > >> modern web font: (Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Century Gothic, etc.) > >> and forget the whole 3D effect as that is so 90s. Generally all of > >> your logo designs are unprofessional (the logos at the bottom of the > >> page: FreeBSD MALL, UseNix, Daemon News, and Powered by FreeBSD for > >> example) > > > > > > You will do no such thing - see above, read the threads on the NetBSD > > site as to the redoing of the "logo" > > I DON'T want it "redesigned" (like NetBSD did) just re-done... same logo > just better looking, image is everything you know. Here's your chance to offer more than just criticism - put one you like together and see if it's accepted by those in a position to make the decision. > >> 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site > >> with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of > >> Cascading Style Sheets?) Still reads the same to me. > > CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a Windows thing? > > No, it's a web standard: http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/ also it would be a > good idea to look into XHTML: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/ Yes, but not a necessary technology to deliver the info. Adding those technologies to dress up the page will add to the overall size of the pages. Seems to me keeping it simple is still the best way to run a volunteer/donation based organization. I don't need the info on a silver and gilt platter, I just need the darn info. > >> 3. The color scheme is not "complementary" anyone who has been to art > >> school or taken design classes will know what I talking about, read > >> up about basic color theory here: > >> http://www.color-wheel-pro.com/color-theory-basics.html (again, ever > >> here of Cascading Style Sheets??) Again, Silver and gilt platters are only eye candy. If I need that, I'll install the xmms(?) module. > > Guess what mate - most of us are NOT into art. > > Yes I can tell, I was trying to offer some helpfull tips Uncalled for. Helpful tips like these are not always welcome because they do little but add work to the already overworked volunteers that run the project. > > Get real. Deal with the OS, not the look and feel of the site. Do I > > really care if a design has passion blue opposed to blue? > > Yes Break! Back to your corners :) > > Do you really thing techies are THAT into pastels? > > I don't like pastels ether, to girly, I like bold and neutral colors. Me too (I get the odd urge to crawl into a cave every easter). Techies don't give a rats ass about presentation unless it's intended to make the info easier to parse, and more effective at reaching that goal. In 4 years, I've never even noticed the FreeBSD logo was intended to be 3D, and I don't really care. It could be flat black or green bubble letters for all I care, but nothing in the logo is going to change the value of the OS. > > If you want to re design something (Actually - is sounds like you have > > been watching way too much TLC) then get a gig on Monster House. > > I watch the history channel most of the time or the courses offered by > the local college on channel 20 , I really think TLC has gone down hill > with all the trading spaces type shows, though page is cute. It's just > that I've always had a good eye for this type of stuff. Most of us don't have much of an eye for this stuff, but only because we DON'T CARE. Most people attracted to such a project want to make a really cool 'thing' that does awesome things, even if it looks like a bunch of rubbish out of the junkyard glued, screwed and wired together. Once we can't think of anything more to add functionally, then we hand it off to someone else to make it pretty. :) > >> 4. I like the Beastie logo on the boot loader screen but ASCII art is > >> unprofessional... It would be better if you made the color ASCII > >> beastie the default. > > > > > > Who cares?!?! It's resource friendly tho... Exactly. I don't care whether I'm booting it on a new 3Ghz HT chip or an old 440Mhz P3, I know I'm not wasting my time with useless ornaments. > >> I have no real issues with the layout of the site and it would be > >> nice if the installer was more user friendly but I am content with > >> the way it is, maybe you should change the color scheme of the > >> installer to match the website? > > > > Snip - not worth repeating. > >> FreeBSD is badly in need of a PR/Design/Marketing department. > > > > Maybe you can start, The Queer-Eye for the BSD-Guy. Uh, heh. Low blow, but definitely to the point. :) I don't think FreeBSD needs any such thing. FreeBSD needs people that care about making the OS better, NOT prettier. And image is most certainly NOT everything! No offense intended, but that's how Microsoft works. Image is NOT more important than reliability, stability and correctness! Who has the image in the market today? Microsoft. Who is the godfather of all computer virii? Bill Gates. What does that say about image? Image is crap, value is where it's at, and byte for byte, FreeBSD has a hundred times the value of Microsoft - at least. > If thats what it takes to get FreeBSD out of obscurity and into the > enterprise then yes I will, just look at what apple did with BSD and > mozilla did with firefox, I don't want to see FreeBSD (or the other > BSDs) die into obscurity as I really like them. I wasn't aware FreeBSD needed rescuing. Anyone who knows about Open Source knows that FreeBSD exists. Anyone who talks to anyone who isn't a Redmond zombie will hear that it's a great OS. 'nuff said. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ԿԬ Steele's Law: There exist tasks which cannot be done by more than ten men or fewer than one hundred. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 08:16:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B04B816A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:16:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at (chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at [84.114.137.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 36CF743D41 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:16:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: (qmail 53527 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2004 08:16:39 -0000 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net (192.168.123.10) by ns.matrix.net with SMTP; 24 Dec 2004 08:16:39 -0000 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, John Conover Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:16:21 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20041224065917.29475.qmail@rahul.net> In-Reply-To: <20041224065917.29475.qmail@rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412240916.38766.4711@chello.at> Subject: Re: Mystery message from mystery cron X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:16:42 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 24 December 2004 07:59, John Conover wrote: > Root's inbox gets the message at the bottom about every half hour, or > so. There is nothing in /var/cron/tabs, so I can't find out what's > causing it. This runs from an entry in /etc/crontab. Inspect /var/log/cron to find out what goes wrong with the script /usr/libexec/save-entropy. - -- Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBy9Bm09WjGjvKU74RAtgtAJ49gn5EyW93eHCdyBeg1Xabeu+FLQCfTj7Z L2KIlkPotS0Y23aMPcvLy/A= =tsAo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 09:09:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5909816A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:09:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F308A43D49 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:09:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20041224090913i9100rfqnee>; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:09:14 +0000 Message-ID: <41CBDCB5.2070705@nbritton.org> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:09:09 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael C. Shultz" References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <200412232117.30199.reso3w83@verizon.net> <41CBBAE6.1060204@nbritton.org> <200412232313.20378.reso3w83@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <200412232313.20378.reso3w83@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:09:15 -0000 Michael C. Shultz wrote: >On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:44 pm, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > >>Michael C. Shultz wrote: >> >> >>>I hate to see FreeBSD to something like my once favorite news site >>>(www.antiwar.com) did. Early on they had a website that wasn't at >>>all artistic, but they always had links to great news stories and >>>updated those several time a day. >>> >>>A while back they re-did the site into a politically correct artsie >>>fashion as you are suggestion FreeBSD do. Ever since that so called >>>upgrade many of there links remain for days at a time and none are >>>updated more than once a day, my guess is the site with all of its >>>wonderful graphics is a real pain in the butt to update now. I >>>seldom visit the site because it is no longer usefull. >>> >>>So for me it seems it is not the artwork that brings me to a site, >>>rather it is the quality of content and FreeBSD's content quality is >>>good right now, I hope no one messes it up. >>> >>> >>I agree with you there, content if the be-all end-all on the web. And >>I'm not suggesting we turn the freebsd site into an arty website with >>spiffy graphics and flash crap all over the place, in fact I want the >>opposite. I advocate minimalism with a clean cohesive style that >>doesn't get in the way of content yet conveys a "professional" image >>of who we are to outsiders and prospective users. >> >> > >As long as the artwork does not get in the way of content, and you don't >mess with "beastie" I say have at it if it means so much to you. That >is sort of what FreeBSD is all about, you got an idea you know will >make it better and you perserver with it long enough eventually one of >the *powers that be* might incorporate it. Takes patience but if you >really love the OS and never give up maybe you'll be the web site >designer someday. > >-Mike > > > Who me?, no, I just use wiki's for my sites and edit the templates, I'm to lazy to do it any other way as It's a pain in the ass to keep an html site updated. all I have to do is login to my websites and start type'n, use it to store most of my public notes and stuff like that because it's easier then opening up a text editor. With wiki's you have built in revision control, rich text formating and easy to remember text formating rules, the ability to search in documents and for the documents you've missed placed, hyperlinking documents to documents, and can backup the database to your computer with the single click of the mouse button. If you've never tried one you should I was just trying to help freebsd buy a new suit so he can hang with the big boys, I don't even know how or why this thread got started.... but... Anyone who messes with beastie is a dead man! if you don't like him you know where the door is at, don't let it hit you in the ass on the way out. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 09:20:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969B416A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:20:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out008.verizon.net (out008pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0153D43D2D for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:20:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reso3w83@verizon.net) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.26.84.7]) by out008.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041224092035.CVAQ17379.out008.verizon.net@ringworm.mechee.com> for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:20:35 -0600 Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E465D2CE740; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:17:49 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:17:48 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <200412232313.20378.reso3w83@verizon.net> <41CBDCB5.2070705@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: <41CBDCB5.2070705@nbritton.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412240117.49291.reso3w83@verizon.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out008.verizon.net from [4.26.84.7] at Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:20:35 -0600 Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:20:36 -0000 On Friday 24 December 2004 01:09 am, Nikolas Britton wrote: [snipped] > > > >As long as the artwork does not get in the way of content, and you > > don't mess with "beastie" I say have at it if it means so much to > > you. That is sort of what FreeBSD is all about, you got an idea you > > know will make it better and you perserver with it long enough > > eventually one of the *powers that be* might incorporate it. Takes > > patience but if you really love the OS and never give up maybe > > you'll be the web site designer someday. > > > >-Mike > > Who me?, no, I just use wiki's for my sites and edit the templates, > I'm to lazy to do it any other way as It's a pain in the ass to keep > an html site updated. I made this point earlier, you just gave a pretty good reason to leave the site alone IMHO. >> all I have to do is login to my websites and > start type'n, use it to store most of my public notes and stuff like > that because it's easier then opening up a text editor. With wiki's > you have built in revision control, rich text formating and easy to > remember text formating rules, the ability to search in documents and > for the documents you've missed placed, hyperlinking documents to > documents, and can backup the database to your computer with the > single click of the mouse button. If you've never tried one you > should > > I was just trying to help freebsd buy a new suit so he can hang with > the big boys, FreeBSD is the big boy. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 09:35:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B5D16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:35:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from addr14.addr.com (addr14.addr.com [209.249.147.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FFC143D2F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:35:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markski@addr14.addr.com) Received: from addr14.addr.com (localhost.addr.com [127.0.0.1]) iBO9Zgxl093729 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:35:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from markski@localhost) by addr14.addr.com (8.12.8/8.12.7/Submit) id iBO9Zbpt093723 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:35:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:35:37 -0800 From: Mark To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041224013537.A88510@logik.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <41CBDCB5.2070705@nbritton.org> X-ADDRSpamFilter: Passed, probability (0%) X-ADDRSignature: 87DDBC1 Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:35:50 -0000 > Who me?, no, I just use wiki's for my sites and edit the templates, I'm > to lazy to do it any other way as It's a pain in the ass to keep an html > site updated. I've kept quiet up until now but I'm afraid I have to step in and respectfully disagree here. If a site is hard to update, that indicates poor design and lack of forethought rather than anything else. XHTML, CSS and a little bit of PHP or Perl are all that is needed to create a clean, beautiful and above all, maintainable site. As a nice example, take a look at this site to see how minimal and readable XHTML can be if done properly (look at the source): http://www.csszengarden.com/ Plain HTML is often mistakenly viewed as simpler and easier but that couldn't be further from the truth. A combination of XHTML and CSS allows you to seperate formatting from page arrangement and make your life much easier. :) Have a good christmas, list. :) Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 09:50:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97F216A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:50:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 875B143D41 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:50:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so123357wra for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:50:51 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=nxWycGaKjOJJswefA7ZF1SkMmP+Mck4dToivxPT+l1OqMjceZ40yAVew5VsrgAz5HeAcF1S8jWfRmJq86oAZGryr1KyxUCK5WTzfWIFygSMUhThftYNLlhVQNUYPWQ4jkDkse2I71LMNwC7cpN4wA/e3UootfTOjlQq7hQNrm/M= Received: by 10.54.2.16 with SMTP id 16mr520807wrb; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:50:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.4.54 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:50:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <72cf361e0412240150f216f30@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:50:50 +0000 From: Martin Hepworth To: comm/JT In-Reply-To: <20041223224234.01432DD9A@cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041223224234.01432DD9A@cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Hepworth List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:50:52 -0000 I did it on a 5.2.1 machine and loaded Exim from the ports tree. That gives full instructions on what to turn off/on in the rc.conf and a little rc script to start exim at boot. What's not working? -- Martin On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:47:15 -0800, comm/JT wrote: > Hello, > > Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some documentation to > fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this and > seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and outdated > document. > > Thanks! > > ====== > -comm > rwx.ca > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 10:18:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D5716A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:18:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C28A43D53 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:18:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from humprhey@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so14354rne for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:18:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tOhqbJuEnXSmCA3t8mWzfc4RyRTnpJzpsSRVtImImY2yR1L16gAK9F/Z5QhJBoAYN+3YTywpKsXwpcfxEomyNDztZ4LjrNuM0+EOazXeXJt+3wHJmMahB4a+VGPqlYYlwyiYD3afuq0SVN9LuAa6Pl1+48h27oak7NtyDGFobLo= Received: by 10.38.24.54 with SMTP id 54mr67477rnx; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:18:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.4? ([80.38.223.137]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTP id 75sm88524rnb.2004.12.24.02.18.15; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:18:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <41CBECE9.6040101@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:18:17 +0100 From: Darksidex User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problems booting my computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:18:17 -0000 A few days ago I tried to compile and install FreeBSD 5.3-p2 from a FreeBSD 5.3-p1 Everething worked until I wanted to make installword. I switched to single mode, and during the installation my computer stoped and shaw me a error (I don't remember it). I had to reboot, and booting process stopped with some hexadecimal characters and with the string "BTX Halted". I downloaded the second disc of FBSD 5.3 release, and I could fix the disk, and I could copy /boot/kernel directory from cd to my disk. But when I try to boot up my computer it stops with this message: Mounting root from ufs: /dev/ad1s1a pid 49 (sh), uid 0: exited on signal 4 Dec 23... init: /bin/sh on /etc/rc terminated abnormally, going to single user mode Enter root password, or ^D to go multi-user Password: Enter full path name for shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: And it doesn't matter what type of shell I want to use, it stops with the same message (pid # (...), uid 0: exited ...) What can I do? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 10:26:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AC416A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:26:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jail.idea-anvil.net (idea-anvil.net [63.226.12.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0F243D48 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:26:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from james@idea-anvil.net) Received: from mail.Idea-Anvil.net (vaio [10.0.0.99]) by jail.idea-anvil.net (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBOAQJr6009735 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:26:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from james@idea-anvil.net) From: James Organization: Jhai To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:26:15 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <20041224065512.29367.qmail@rahul.net> In-Reply-To: <20041224065512.29367.qmail@rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412240326.16142.james@idea-anvil.net> Subject: Re: sendmail running on localhost 25? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:26:20 -0000 Hello, Use: sendmail_enable="none" This will disable all sendmail processes. On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:55 pm, John Conover wrote: > I just installed 5.2.1, and after installing qmail, I still have > sendmail running on localhost 25; even though I have > sendmail_enable="NO" in /etc/conf. Where is it launched? I don't see > it in any /etc/rc* files. > > Thanks, > > John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 10:28:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C94016A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:28:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from male.aldigital.co.uk (male.thebunker.net [213.129.64.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906B543D1F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:28:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by male.aldigital.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469459774A; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:28:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1])iBOASVih004974; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:28:33 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <41CBEF4A.10501@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:28:26 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041213) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Skylar Thompson References: <41CA2009.5030002@krisk.org> <41CA22D0.4060104@krisk.org> <20041223211825.GA74194@quark.cs.earlham.edu> In-Reply-To: <20041223211825.GA74194@quark.cs.earlham.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7FB9E15AE2A4884CB54C570E" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Java [was: Re: Switching FreeBSD machines] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:28:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7FB9E15AE2A4884CB54C570E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Skylar Thompson wrote: > On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 12:20:09PM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote: > >>to give you a confidence boost, I very recently built jdk14 on >>a 5.3-RELEASE machine *by the instructions*, and it built >>without problems, and apps were able to find it afterwards. >>If that's all that's keeping from starting from scratch, don't >>worry about java; it's not that bad. > > > Does anyone know if JDK1.5 is going to be supported by FreeBSD? I have some > JDK1.5 apps that I've written for Linux that I would like to run on > FreeBSD. I've been unsuccessful in getting JDK1.5 running through Linux > emulation too. Alexey Zelkin just announced on freebsd-java@... that he had succeeded in porting JDK-1.5 to the extent that it is now self-hosting: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-java/2004-December/003286.html Public beta testing releases are expected in January. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK --------------enig7FB9E15AE2A4884CB54C570E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQcvvT5r7OpndfbmCAQK7GwQAnxqwYs7wt8BQKR5JM+jW3kJCtGf6oXEk S0yrG9pQ9O8hEmZaaA5mh1QEuBm4XiyREAo57340rAqgJskAoeA5J56x76ckG/6S vQNFcZmeSrvLj198qG6HLV4oaZQIWxJ1BFRNhKArPxBvKp/4WTopnhFatdtlRsrB xM3f0wL7lgI= =70cz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7FB9E15AE2A4884CB54C570E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 10:34:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2553D16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:34:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vs3.bgnett.no (vs3.bgnett.no [194.54.96.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6456743D55 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:34:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) Received: from amidala.datadok.no.bgnett.no ([194.54.107.19]) by vs3.bgnett.no (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBOAXu5n040373; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:33:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) Sender: peter@amidala.datadok.no To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041223224234.01432DD9A@cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com> From: peter@bgnett.no (Peter N. M. Hansteen) Date: 24 Dec 2004 11:33:53 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20041223224234.01432DD9A@cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com> Message-ID: <86wtv8m1da.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> Lines: 40 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-bgnett.no-virusscanner: Found to be clean X-Envelope-To: comm@rwx.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: comm/JT Subject: Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:34:29 -0000 "comm/JT" writes: > Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some documentation to > fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this and > seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and outdated > document. In my experience, it should be pretty straightforward. There are a couple of things which are not done automagically by the port, IIRC - * adding the lines exim_enable="YES" sendmail_enable="NONE" to /etc/rc.conf * editing /etc/mail/mailer.conf to read something like sendmail /usr/local/sbin/exim send-mail /usr/local/sbin/exim mailq /usr/local/sbin/exim -bp newaliases /usr/bin/true hoststat /usr/local/sbin/sendmail purgestat /usr/local/sbin/sendmail * killing the sendmail daemon and starting exim (use /usr/local/etc/rc.d/exim.sh start to start exim) There may be a few other things you need to do, but the port tends to remind you of such things along the way. Running the install from a script(1) session is useful too, just in case useful messages scroll off the top of the screen too quickly. The port also supplies nice and straightforward instructions to add spam and virus filtering to the delivery process. Nice for those of us serving Microsoft desktops. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ "First, we kill all the spammers" The Usenet Bard, "Twice-forwarded tales" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 11:02:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5312616A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:02:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from male.aldigital.co.uk (male.thebunker.net [213.129.64.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595DA43D48 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:02:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by male.aldigital.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565CB9774A; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:02:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1])iBOB2bkg005090; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:02:38 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <41CBF748.3010407@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:02:32 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041213) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Followup-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org To: Brian Astill References: <003501c4e842$2f46c830$2a64015a@apise6e37e23bb> <200412230809.31238.bastill@adam.com.au> <41CAD2A0.1070806@infracaninophile.co.uk> <200412241641.47130.bastill@adam.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200412241641.47130.bastill@adam.com.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig0E6BA56FC42D2B682B58A531" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:02:42 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig0E6BA56FC42D2B682B58A531 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brian Astill wrote: > On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:13 am, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >>Ah. A crucial bit of information that was missing from the original >>post. Standard practice in that case is to create a partition on the >>system with a filesystem that both OSes can read and write. Between >>Windows and FreeBSD that boils down to msdosfs, or in Windows-speak >>FAT32. (FAT12 and FAT16 are also supported, but why on earth would >>you want to use them if FAT32 works?) > > > Sounds fine - BUT! M$ being M$ even different versions of Windoze > cannot read different M$ files. eg WinNT cannot read FAT32. The NTFS > in XP is different from that in WinNT. Other versions of Windoze > cannot read either of the NTFS versions. The only "universal" is > FAT16, which limits you to 2G partitions. > So ... if your flavour of Windoze can read FAT32, a FAT32 partition is a > very good idea because all the commonly-available unices can read it as > well. > If it can't ... the options aren't so good. I'd think ext2 would be > the only workable alternative to FAT16, but neither is desirable. > > BTW, I haven't found one, but does anyone have a way to make WinNT read > FAT32? You know, every time I think I'm becoming too cynical about the Windows world, all I need to do is read a post like this, and remind myself that it is impossible to be /too/ cynical about Windows. The only possible reason M$ could have for withdrawing FAT32 support completely from their product line is to make it harder for people to interoperate with free-Unixoid systems. A move which must be based on the arrogant belief that they have the world clasped so firmly by the short-and-curlies that it will do /anything/ other than give up using Windows. That is a very curious idea. People want their computers to interoperate. There's a huge effort going into making that happen in the Free-Unix world. If M$ starts trying to remove all of the functionality that permits that, then one day they are going to wake up and find that their userbase has decamped to running the sort of systems where they can actually get stuff done... It would be comical if it wasn't so tragic. M$ needs to learn the lessons of history: there have been any number of corporate giants who have achieved some sort of transitory pre-eminence in computing and then faded right away. (Where is DEC nowadays? Just a small part of a sub-division of HP) And the start of their downfall was because they tried to lock their customers into their proprietary systems, instead of competing on equal terms. Anyhow, this really is getting off-topic for freebsd-questions@... and should have gone to freebsd-advocacy@... instead. Followup-to: set appropriately. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK --------------enig0E6BA56FC42D2B682B58A531 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQcv3TZr7OpndfbmCAQLHnQP+I1Dba/Y+lBb9C4IvEWzhHHU1svo5hCW+ ygDCW8aq3l5uDYtQXCtzxEffswv8weLmfAivHsHHne6pyO4iKJIUFj1MUSVgM4U5 BpOQNSQESgna+DN/hOynupWCWIqNOb6kx/di/gjjwVf/7+tODWT+6ZUCIu7XUfVs vt3RqiEdCck= =oQNj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig0E6BA56FC42D2B682B58A531-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 11:16:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EEBA16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:16:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.doruk.net.tr (smtp.doruk.net.tr [212.58.5.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE4943D3F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:16:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vahric@doruk.net.tr) Received: from smtp.doruk.net.tr (root@localhost) by smtp.doruk.net.tr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id iBOBFR6k031421 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:15:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from vahric@doruk.net.tr) Message-Id: <200412241115.iBOBFR6k031421@smtp.doruk.net.tr> Received: from VAHOXP (vahric.doruk.net.tr [212.58.13.17]) by smtp.doruk.net.tr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBOBFR83031416 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:15:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from vahric@doruk.net.tr) From: "Vahric MUHTARYAN" To: Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:22:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 thread-index: AcTpqt2wbhztxCfmRsWHUa/ZSh1xVw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: LoadBalancer With FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:16:37 -0000 Hi Everybody , Do you know any load balancer program for FreeBSD like linux LVS . I checked ports and find out morebalance-0.3 and loadd-0.8 ?! Anybody use those programs?! I want make a load balance on my frontend servers ?! Could you give me advise about using hardware-load-balancer or software-load-balancer ?! And I wonder How many connection can handle FreeBSD box ?! Because hardware load-balancer can up to 2.000.000 connection per box. I think that with PIII and 512 machine I can handle ?! Thanks Vahric MUHTARYAN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 11:28:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54DC116A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:28:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at (chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at [84.114.137.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC25243D48 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:28:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: (qmail 54228 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2004 11:28:09 -0000 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net (192.168.123.10) by ns.matrix.net with SMTP; 24 Dec 2004 11:28:09 -0000 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:27:51 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <41CBECE9.6040101@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <41CBECE9.6040101@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412241228.09467.4711@chello.at> cc: Darksidex Subject: Re: Problems booting my computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:28:51 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 24 December 2004 11:18, Darksidex wrote: > A few days ago I tried to compile and install FreeBSD 5.3-p2 from a > FreeBSD 5.3-p1 > Everething worked until I wanted to make installword. I switched to > single mode, and during the installation my computer stoped and shaw me > a error (I don't remember it). I had to reboot, and booting process > stopped with some hexadecimal characters and with the string "BTX Halted". > > I downloaded the second disc of FBSD 5.3 release, and I could fix the > disk, and I could copy /boot/kernel directory from cd to my disk. > But when I try to boot up my computer it stops with this message: > > Mounting root from ufs: /dev/ad1s1a > pid 49 (sh), uid 0: exited on signal 4 > Dec 23... init: /bin/sh on /etc/rc terminated > abnormally, going to single user mode > Enter root password, or ^D to go multi-user > Password: > Enter full path name for shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: You can try to run the statically linked version of sh and try to repair your system. It's path is /rescue/sh. Possibly ld-elf.so.1 is missing in /libexec. I would try to mount the disc2.iso and copy it from there. In worst case I would copy /bin, /lib, /libexec, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /usr/lib, /usr/libexec (eventually /usr/libdata and /boot) from the live-filesystem-cd over to your system. Before you start to copy the files over, run the command '/rescue/chflags -R noschg *' on each of the paths in question to remove all system immutable flags). After your have fixed your system, re-cvsup sources and do a rebuild and reinstall of world and kernel. - -- Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBy/1J09WjGjvKU74RAl4VAJwKM4kuVXFVQDdH3dNc6m+JdB1SCgCcCkxe aAtJdPgj3Azu/LC1qGG05N0= =dwiM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 11:41:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF7516A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:41:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from natjimbo.rzone.de (natjimbo.rzone.de [81.169.145.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C1843D53 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:41:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kaasboer@laverenz.de) Received: from athena.laverenz.de (pD9E19DDD.dip.t-dialin.net [217.225.157.221]) by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBOBfd24009641 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:41:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2F1E385BF0 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:41:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from athena.laverenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (athena [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03947-04 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:41:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from brianna.laverenz.de (wrt54g.laverenz.de [192.168.100.44]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70224E385BE9 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:41:40 +0100 (CET) Received: by brianna.laverenz.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0B180D4D23; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:41:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:41:35 +0100 From: Uwe Laverenz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041224114135.GB4177@brianna.laverenz.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41C81621.50906@nbritton.org> <20041221144829.GA5859@laverenz.de> <41C9D389.9030602@nbritton.org> <20041223055516.GF795@brianna.laverenz.de> <41CA8B3A.2060803@nbritton.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41CA8B3A.2060803@nbritton.org> Organization: private site Sender: uwe@laverenz.de User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at laverenz.de Subject: Re: Armada 17xx, ACPI thermal management broken. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:41:43 -0000 On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 03:09:14AM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote: > When I try it with Linux it worked, in fact, here is a patch for kernel > 2.6.7: > https://kilobyte.dyndns.info/linux/armada_1700_dsdt_linux-2.6.7.diff.bz2 Ok, I will test this on my 1750 right after christmas, as soon as I find the time. merry christmas! Uwe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 12:28:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E3016A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:28:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com (mailout06.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F53443D41; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:28:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from fwd11.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1ChoYg-0001VZ-01; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:28:38 +0100 Received: from Andro-Beta.Leidinger.net (bKaf0MZdYeQPMQMJB40AhL4GJu8YPhTwvnZAlAp6i7v7NjqgEgsd8H@[217.229.222.40]) by fmrl11.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1ChoYM-0Wvk8W0; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:28:18 +0100 Received: from Magellan.Leidinger.net (Magellan.Leidinger.net [192.168.1.1]) iBOCS9tj059543; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:28:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:28:25 +0100 From: Alexander Leidinger To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, jsha Message-ID: <20041224132825.023fc5ee@Magellan.Leidinger.net> In-Reply-To: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ID: bKaf0MZdYeQPMQMJB40AhL4GJu8YPhTwvnZAlAp6i7v7NjqgEgsd8H@t-dialin.net X-TOI-MSGID: 50e9a8d7-c00a-455f-8a4b-268e48bfb6f7 Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:28:46 -0000 On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:27:31 +0100 jsha wrote: > I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts > on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes > and users to the rest of the world. You know that you write this a t a time where a lot of people are visiting their family and don't have email access or don't read the mailinglists? At least this is the case for a lot of FreeBSD committers. > Being an architect as well as graphic designer, I feel it is about time > for a complete revamp of the visual aesthetics of the FreeBSD project. Even if a lot of committers won't/can't answer now: there are people which agree with you (maybe not all, but you know what we say about bikesheds, don't you?). > The current logo and everything pertaining to it has long since lost its > modern touch. I believe that if this image is strenghtened, so is the > way outsiders view the FreeBSD project and the way they would judge it > compared to other open source operating systems. > > 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks We had an discussion a while ago about this. The way I understand the conclusion is: we have a mascot, but no logo (we may use our mascot like other people use a logo ATM). And we want to keep the mascot. We may be interested in a logo, but a logo is a bikeshed topic. Since we're more developers than designers, nobody stepped up to proceed on this topic (at least I don't know about it if someone proceeded further). If you want to put your energy into creating a logo, there will be people which listen to you. > like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years > ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very > disappointed when I heard that the new NetBSD logo was in effect. This is a little bit harsh. I suggest to stay with facts and suggestions. Keep such rants for your personal pleasure, we don't need them. > 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD > website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its > purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign > could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being > ugly. The doc team is progressing in this direction... at least if I read the content between the lines of commit logs right. I think they try to separate the content from the design at the moment (the prerequisite to use the full power of CSS). I suggest to get in contact with them to not reinvent the wheel. > 3. The installation, even though it's text-only, could also be improved > by simple restructuring to act more cognitive and human-centered than > previously. Everything pertaining to the eye is important to improve. Yes. AFAIK the Freesbie project is integrating the bsdinstaller (the installer DragonFly uses) ATM. We will see how this works out and depending on this there may be interest to integrate the installer into FreeBSD. > 4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead > available to all that support this project. Even if there are some people which don't think this is needed, I like this idea. In may day to day job I'm working as a consultant, so I know where/how/why this may be beneficial (or not). > How do I know though, that if I manage to pull together a team to work > on this refined vision, that we won't be totally ignored even though we > produce the most magnificent result? We can't guarantee that any of your work will be adopted, but I don't think your work will be ignored (be prepared to get a lot of critique... positive and negative one). Bye, Alexander. -- The best things in life are free, but the expensive ones are still worth a look. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = C518 BC70 E67F 143F BE91 3365 79E2 9C60 B006 3FE7 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 14:17:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787B816A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:17:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43AF343D48; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:17:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FADB1299A8; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:16:57 -0400 (AST) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 59939-10; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:16:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-222-250-144.eastlink.ca [24.222.250.144]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BAB1298B4; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:16:56 -0400 (AST) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BED4D4AA67; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:17:01 -0400 (AST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B151B4AA5C; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:17:01 -0400 (AST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:17:01 -0400 (AST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041224101222.W1788@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org cc: durist@frii.com cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD Jails & Perl: Reading /proc ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:17:03 -0000 I'm trying to read /proc/*/status, specifically to find what processes belong to what jail ... but, doing 'direct views' on it tends to generate errors since processes "come-n-go" ... So, I loaded p5-Proc-ProcessTable, since it looked the closest to what I'm looking for, but it doesn't report 'hostname': uid: 80 gid: 80 pid: 21271 ppid: 21267 pgrp: 21267 sess: 21267 flags: noflags utime: 73.000000 stime: 331.000000 time: 404.000000 wchan: lockf start: 1101753695.000000 euid: 80 egid: 80 fname: httpd state: lockf ttydev: ttynum: -1 cmndline: /usr/local/sbin/httpd priority: 0 Not sure how hard it would be to add this to Proc::ProcessTable ... but is there another way that I should be doing this? Thanks ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 14:23:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B8816A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:23:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E5443D4C; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:23:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b238.otenet.gr [212.205.244.246]) iBOENalo011721; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:23:38 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBOENXPJ001444; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:23:33 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBOEMkmE001441; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:22:46 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:22:46 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Chris , Nikolas Britton Message-ID: <20041224142246.GB779@gothmog.gr> References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:23:43 -0000 On 2004-12-23 23:02, Chris wrote: >Nikolas Britton wrote: >> 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site >> with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of >> Cascading Style Sheets?) > > CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a Windows thing? Actually, no. Nikolas is right here. The sans serif fonts look much better and are more readable on the monitor. Times looks better on paper. > >3. The color scheme is not "complementary" anyone who has been to art > >school or taken design classes will know what I talking about, read up > >about basic color theory here: > >http://www.color-wheel-pro.com/color-theory-basics.html (again, ever > >here of Cascading Style Sheets??) > > Guess what mate - most of us are NOT into art. Get real. Deal with the > OS, not the look and feel of the site. Do I really care if a design > has passion blue opposed to blue? The fact that we don't know a lot about art and design is not a good excuse for reacting badly to anyone that says so. Nikolas, there is an effort to redesign the web site, using CSS as much as possible for style & layout, making sure that the entire site has a consistent look and feel. Your comments show that you know a bit about design. If you believe you can help with such an effort, please contact us at and assist the team who works on the web site. > Do you really thing techies are THAT into pastels? If you want to re > design something (Actually - is sounds like you have been watching way > too much TLC) then get a gig on Monster House. > > >4. I like the Beastie logo on the boot loader screen but ASCII art is > >unprofessional... It would be better if you made the color ASCII beastie > >the default. > > Who cares?!?! It's resource friendly tho... ``Who cares?'' is exactly the sort of bad PR that Nikolas is right about. Please avoid inflammatory material, if possible :-/ Nikolas, there is a good reason why the ASCII art logo is not using colors by default. Many people use FreeBSD with a serial console, and sending colors over a serial port connection is a bit silly: annoying an a waste of precious serial connection bandwidth. This is why the loader logo doesn't use fancy colors by default. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 14:57:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4FA516A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:57:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51607.mail.yahoo.com (web51607.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F5A643D2F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:57:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jay2xra@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 89762 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Dec 2004 14:57:19 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=waGYyhPkDpPUQ2IwQPt9R6OBgJyGSSsvTDW/PWGW6ggFMEWGI0sUkiJlxuZzKvqo0Wl5emOtBlNk0IbkDcyQZDoJbcg5iMLo2G5CePHfjB+LinHdOtj/Hz/ZA7nJFVmZQGj3n8YyRJ539vmrRKhCcWqUpDWjGyt1921+Ga7DLQ4= ; Message-ID: <20041224145719.89760.qmail@web51607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [210.1.85.135] by web51607.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:57:19 PST Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:57:19 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Jayson Alvarez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Is this new hard drive going to be useless with freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:57:21 -0000 Good day, I currently have this setup at home and its working fine with FreeBSD 4.10. Motherboard: Jetway 830CH Hard Drive: 10 Gb Samsung Video Card: SiS on-board Processor: AMD Athlon 1200 Mhz (this is not an Athlon XP) Memory: 256 mb PC100 SDRAM I bought a new 80 Gb Seagate 7200 rpm Hard Drive and installed it on the primary master my pc. The access mode for my hard drive in BIOS which shows these choices is set to Auto: CHS LBA Large Auto I boot into FreeBSD 5.3 cd and proceed with the installation. Some time after choosing the X-User in the installation method, it ended up failing to install some packages(perl and xorg). Still, it says, Congratulations... FreeBSD is now installed... (and I'm really hoping that nothing went wrong with the base system, and thinking to just install perl and xorg later). I removed the cd, and boot the pc. The kernel boots silently until this error message showed up: ad0 Warning_Read_DMA UDMA ICRC error(retrying request) LBA=1518639 ad0: Failure_Read_DMA status=51 error=84 LBA=1518639 spec_getpages:(ad0s1a) I/O read failure:(error=5) bp0xc65fe2ec vp0xc16f7d68 size: 32768,resid:32768,a_count:37268, valid: 0x0 nread:0, reqpage:7, pindex:61, pcount:8 vm_fault:pager read error, pid 55(sh) pid 55(sh),uid 0:exited on signal 11 Dec 24 17:28:39 init: /bin/sh on /etc/rc terminated abnormally, going to single user mode Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: After pressing return key, the same error message appeared. I tried reinstalling it again but this time, I selected LBA access mode in BIOS. I also choose minimal installation. It successfully installed withouth any package extraction or cd read error problem. Again, I removed the cd, rebooted the pc praying that this time I will be able to see some login prompt... then waiting... and waiting... and then.. Grrr!! Waaaaaaa!!!!! ad0 Warning_Read_DMA UDMA ICRC error(retrying request) LBA=1518639 ad0: Failure_Read_DMA status=51 error=84 LBA=1518639 spec_getpages:(ad0s1a) I/O read failure:(error=5) bp0xc65fe2ec vp0xc16f7d68 size: 32768,resid:32768,a_count:37268, valid: 0x0 nread:0, reqpage:7, pindex:61, pcount:8 vm_fault:pager read error, pid 55(sh) pid 55(sh),uid 0:exited on signal 11 Dec 24 17:28:39 init: /bin/sh on /etc/rc terminated abnormally, going to single user mode Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: Do you know what's causing this problem. I'm thinking maybe my new hard drive is not compatible with my other pc peripherals (because I have 5.3 running on the same hard drive specs in my office workstation but together with a newer board and processor). I haven't tried installing FreeBSD 4.10 on it yet, because I'm really looking forward to using 5.3. I really need some good advice here. I can't afford to upgrade the rest of my pc because its like a chain reaction, once I upgrade the board..., the processor, memory and video card shall have to be upgraded too due to compatibility issues. Any cheeper idea? Thank you very much for any advice. I'm really hoping to be able to use my new hard drive soon. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 15:00:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4A816A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:00:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53902.mail.yahoo.com (web53902.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 91FC243D31 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:00:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from snailboy1@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 21987 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Dec 2004 15:00:54 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=1Yv9zn1gme3rqZGWjw5DJHDCEZ/ElaIVrvvGabTuZ/gs7JFe3NAwvwAfRvsQmk8q+1bfmx4WjuhmYZb0mx9GkE4yKXO4AxYdcRcg8ABSk6mQCjZsprih/BWTllmf52W6zqb7nERZNvwY+dH3fUhrPZClGWI0PgzAc1o3b7K/gko= ; Message-ID: <20041224150054.21985.qmail@web53902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.136.48.234] by web53902.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:00:54 PST Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:00:54 -0800 (PST) From: David LeCount To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Kernel page faulting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:00:55 -0000 Alright, I'm a step forward in getting this 486 upgraded from 5.0 to 5.3 but things aren't getting any easier. For those that don't remember, I've been trying to build a kernel and world on my Pentium 4 and install it on a 486 but make was calling a bad system call while installing the new kernel. Well the old make was calling the new one in /usr/obj which was compiled for the new kernel. Since I didn't have it installed yet, I compiled the new make for the old kernel and managed to installkernel. I wish I could say that's where the problems ended. When I rebooted to the new kernel, it dumped a lot of information to the screen and rebooted. It was too fast for me to read, but I did catch the last line which said page fault. I set dumpdev in loader.conf but it didn't dump the core. I guess it hadn't reached the point where it could yet. Now I think this is because I'm compiling on a 686 for a 486 because the kernel on the 686 is from the same source code and works fine. I put CPUTYPE=i486 in my make command and even halted the compilation to verify it was passing -march=i486 to gcc. Yet it still page faults... I tried setting NO_CPU_CFLAGS too but same thing. I've been struggling with this computer for about a week now. If anyone can help me get this kernel and world installed, I would be extremely grateful. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 15:50:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E54916A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:50:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sa9.bezeqint.net (sa9.bezeqint.net [192.115.104.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D4243D1D for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:50:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nimrod-me@bezeqint.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1])ESMTP id 8DD2133E63 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:46:03 +0200 (IST) Received: from sa9.bezeqint.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sa9 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22846-10 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:46:02 +0200 (IST) Received: from localhost.bsd.net.il (unknown [81.218.176.56])ESMTP for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:46:02 +0200 (IST) Received: from localhost.bsd.net.il (nimrodm@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.bsd.net.il (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBOGk0uk003755 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:46:00 +0200 (IST) (envelope-from nimrodm@localhost.bsd.net.il) Received: (from nimrodm@localhost) by localhost.bsd.net.il (8.12.9p2/8.12.6/Submit) id iBOGjxNQ003754 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:45:59 +0200 (IST) From: Nimrod Mesika Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:45:59 +0200 To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041224164559.GA3727@localhost.bsd.net.il> Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bezeqint.net Subject: ppbus programming / porting freenomad to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:50:37 -0000 Hi all, I'm trying to port 'freenomad' (an abandoned sourceforge project) from Linux to FreeBSD. The software uses the Linux parallel port framework (parport) to setup a simple IEEE 1284 ECP session. It seems like the equivalent functionality is provided by FreeBSD's ppbus(4). However, I can't find any documentation/example code for using ppbus from a userland application. Specifically, the Linux app does the following: 1. open("/dev/parport0", O_RDWR) 2. Claim the port (Linux ioctl PPCLAIM) 3. Negotiate ECP (Linux ioctl PPNEGOT with arg. IEEE1284_MODE_ECP) Before reading or writing it sets the parallel port direction 4. ioctl( fd, PPDATADIR, &direction ) (direction=0/1) 5. write() or read() using the handle returned by open() On exit 6. Release the port: ioctl( fd, PPRELEASE ) 7. close(fd) I need to find the equivalent code for FreeBSD and would appreciate any pointers you might have. Thanks, Nimrod. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 15:54:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8AEB16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:54:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from debian.akroteq.com (rdbck-static-72.palmer.mtaonline.net [12.17.141.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF7043D45 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:54:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@firman.us) Received: from andy by debian.akroteq.com with local (Exim 4.34) id 1ChrlO-0004CV-JU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:53:58 -0900 Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:53:58 -0900 From: Andy Firman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041224155358.GB15993@akroteq.com> References: <41C6EE24.4080606@vilot.com> <200412202154.iBKLsrt13676@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200412202154.iBKLsrt13676@clunix.cl.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Andy Firman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:54:06 -0000 On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:54:51PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > Then the thing to do is create another root account and make the > default shell for that one be bash, leaving the root root be /bin/sh. So for those of us that want to go back to the way things should be, (leaving root shell be /bin/sh) I fire up vipw and change this: root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/usr/local/bin/bash to this: root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/sh Right? Then I keep using sudo all the time. But if I need to do some big work as root, I can su to root and get bash simply by typing: /usr/local/bin/bash Right? Just want to be clear on this. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 15:54:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2070116A4DD for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:54:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B910A43D2F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:54:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DF1C45DA9 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:54:07 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: R2xr69trb5RsQLFeJdzdHQ 1103903647 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-80-201.access.uk.tiscali.com [80.41.80.201]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B68C25599 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:54:07 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:54:02 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <41CBB0D6.6080807@att.net> <41CBC255.2070309@att.net> <200412232338.09555.reso3w83@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <200412232338.09555.reso3w83@verizon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412241554.03932.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:54:09 -0000 On Friday 24 December 2004 07:38, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:16 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: > > Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > > On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: > > >>I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports cvsup. > > >>Following the Dru Lavigne article on portupgrade at > > >>http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page > > >>=1 I installed portupgrade and then ran portsdb -Uu. It errored > > >> out, telling me that I shouldn't use my "refuse" file that stopped > > >> the non- english docs and ports from being loaded on my HD. > > >> > > >>In trying to understand this issue, I found portmanager, and it > > >> looks like it would perform the same function as portupgrade. > > >> > > >>My questions: Is there a way around the "refuse" file prohibition, > > >>perhaps with portmanager? Does portmanager replace portupgrade? > > > > > > portmanager doesn't require the INDEX files to keep ports up to > > > date, so the refuse file is a non issue with it. > > > > > > -Mike > > > > Sounds good. What's the downside, if any, to using portmanager > > instead of portupgrade? > > All of your ports will be built with the correct dependencies, they will > work better leaving you less to complain about in the mail lists and so > you will become bored. Because everything is working exactly as it > should you may begin to think you are a Maytag repair man, nothing much > to do, just always setting around waiting for something to break..... I don't use portmanager myself, but isn't it the case that portmanager rebuilds not just ports that have newer versions in the ports tree, but also all ports that recursively depend on those ports. I just updated kdehier with portupgrade in about a minute. The whole of KDE depends on kdehier, so presumably portmanager would have taken several days, and kdehier isn't particularly unusual. I would see that as a major downside. When it's necessary UPDATING will suggest running portupgrade -rf to force rebuilding. That kind of UPDATING entry is in a small minority, which suggests to me that most of the problems with ports don't stem from the sequence of their updating, so I can't see how portmanager is any kind of magic-bullet. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 15:55:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02B016A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:55:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6427943D58 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:55:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micologist@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so101317rnz for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:55:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=QmreB/UZ1MKp2HzZLN8Juao0zDxKoJ5zmVXcWnLfHZL1G2eGz3tfRtz5ezFGGlEV/phYIkXdksjdIsUPRkp42Q/CR3bwNaER9APgKKOmmRLj0Aoqy8A+9gl2MOobdD6DgJR7FpJWS+yRvReia/oI6K929VXiMT4b+gzH9UD2exk= Received: by 10.38.179.3 with SMTP id b3mr47208rnf; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:55:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.8.51 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:55:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7227803f04122407557bba1f84@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:55:03 -0500 From: David Vincelli To: Ian Moore , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200412241722.28723.imoore@picknowl.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <7227803f041223222861547e39@mail.gmail.com> <200412241722.28723.imoore@picknowl.com.au> Subject: Re: Pioneer DVR-108 can burn DVDs, can't mount them! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David Vincelli List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:55:05 -0000 Hi Ian, What do you mean by when you say you "mount them as a SCSI device". Which device is that? Thanks, On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:22:16 +1030, Ian Moore wrote: > On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:58, David Vincelli wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm using FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE with a custom kernel I just compiled a > > few days ago to have the atapicam device (the only difference with the > > stock kernel). I added hw.ata.atapi_dma="1" to /boot/loader.conf, and > > indeed the device is accessed in UltraDMA mode 2. My DVD burner is a > > Pioneer DVR-108 with the latest firmware at this time (1.18). I can > > burn DVDs using growisofs but I get a vague input/output error when I > > try to mount them. (mount failed: input/output error, if I recall > > correctly). The command I use to mount is: mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0 > > /mnt. It seems I cannot mount DVDs at all, even originals. I was > > wondering if the drive was defective so I tried it under a windows > > environment and it could read the DVDs fine, even the ones I created > > under FreeBSD. I'd give you a full listing of the full error that > > would swamp the (real) console when I tried to mount the DVDs but I > > don't have access to the box right now. It was a scsi error. asq 8,3 > > is one of them from what I remember :) > > > > Has anyone seen this before? > Hi Vince, > I bought the same DVD drive a few weeks ago & it works just fine on my > 5.3-RELEASE system. I can watch DVDs, mount a DVD-ROM & I've burnt a DVD-RW > successfully. There's nothing special in my kernel except ATAPICAM support. > I mount it as a SCSI device, so maybe it's worth trying that on your system? > > Cheers, > -- > Ian > > GPG Key: http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/imoore/imoore.asc -- David Vincelli From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 16:00:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C79916A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:00:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA3143D2F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:00:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205])iBOFrttQ063134; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:53:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) iBOG09xc000874; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:00:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBOG08if000873; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:00:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:00:08 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: David Vincelli Message-ID: <20041224160008.GB592@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <7227803f041223222861547e39@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7227803f041223222861547e39@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pioneer DVR-108 can burn DVDs, can't mount them! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:00:13 -0000 On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 01:28:20AM -0500, David Vincelli wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE with a custom kernel I just compiled a > few days ago to have the atapicam device (the only difference with the > stock kernel). I added hw.ata.atapi_dma="1" to /boot/loader.conf, and > indeed the device is accessed in UltraDMA mode 2. My DVD burner is a > Pioneer DVR-108 with the latest firmware at this time (1.18). I can > burn DVDs using growisofs but I get a vague input/output error when I > try to mount them. (mount failed: input/output error, if I recall > correctly). The command I use to mount is: mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0 > /mnt. It seems I cannot mount DVDs at all, even originals. I was > wondering if the drive was defective so I tried it under a windows > environment and it could read the DVDs fine, even the ones I created > under FreeBSD. I'd give you a full listing of the full error that > would swamp the (real) console when I tried to mount the DVDs but I > don't have access to the box right now. It was a scsi error. asq 8,3 > is one of them from what I remember :) > Could you paste the command you used to burn your DVDs ? Marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 16:05:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA92C16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:05:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBF843D1F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:05:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1Chrwq-0004Bk-VV; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:05:49 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Andy Firman Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:06:46 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <41C6EE24.4080606@vilot.com> <200412202154.iBKLsrt13676@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <20041224155358.GB15993@akroteq.com> In-Reply-To: <20041224155358.GB15993@akroteq.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200412241006.47078.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc9b398b9c29e4fcb93867ae6428c3469d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:05:50 -0000 On Friday 24 December 2004 09:53 am, Andy Firman wrote: > On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:54:51PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > Then the thing to do is create another root account and make the > > default shell for that one be bash, leaving the root root be > > /bin/sh. > > So for those of us that want to go back to the way things should be, > (leaving root shell be /bin/sh) I fire up vipw and change this: > > root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/usr/local/bin/bash > > to this: > > root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/sh > > Right? > > Then I keep using sudo all the time. But if I need to do some big > work as root, I can su to root and get bash simply by typing: > > /usr/local/bin/bash > > Right? > > > Just want to be clear on this. > > Thanks. I think that should do it. If you wanted root to use bash all the time, couldn't you compile/install a static version into /bin/? I've never done it; but I know that NetBSD has some statically linked shells in their ports (pkgsrc) that install to /bin/, so I would think it should be possible. Best of luck, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 16:12:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9874916A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:12:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2415D43D2D for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:12:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so101881rnz for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:12:39 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to:x-mimeole:thread-index:message-id; b=CWrEJnv7uEB4NiJEW8VdpCM23I3SO35Oyirhodd0XVKkYcj9kgvrDQqIsraHaJOOzOBWdyPSTVI+v08vHDR+RRAG2emMARC1FIWAhBYUwh1f5i32p/G9TD+hBLMbrrNcnEddUKUKAjkTvjDl+Ey8YfTCPoqnHokEIGroY0poBn4= Received: by 10.38.26.40 with SMTP id 40mr282448rnz; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:12:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from phoenix ([220.225.80.140]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTP id 80sm20271rnb.2004.12.24.08.12.37; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:12:39 -0800 (PST) From: "Subhro" To: "'Mark Jayson Alvarez'" , Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:42:32 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C4EA01.7885FB90" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20041224145719.89760.qmail@web51607.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcTpyRyOSyYHgo9fTtCFcb8VsAfTuQAChPog Message-ID: <41cc3ff7.601f054a.7e21.0125@smtp.gmail.com> Subject: RE: Is this new hard drive going to be useless with freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:12:40 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C4EA01.7885FB90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Mark Jayson Alvarez > Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 20:27 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Is this new hard drive going to be useless with freebsd? > > > Good day, > > I currently have this setup at home and its > working fine with FreeBSD 4.10. > > Motherboard: Jetway 830CH > Hard Drive: 10 Gb Samsung > Video Card: SiS on-board > Processor: AMD Athlon 1200 Mhz (this is not an > Athlon XP) > Memory: 256 mb PC100 SDRAM > > I bought a new 80 Gb Seagate 7200 rpm Hard Drive and > installed it on the primary master my pc. > The access mode for my hard drive ST380011A> in BIOS which shows these choices is set to > Auto: > > CHS > LBA > Large > Auto > > I boot into FreeBSD 5.3 cd and proceed with the > installation. Some time after choosing the X-User in > the installation method, it ended up failing to > install some packages(perl and xorg). Still, it says, > Congratulations... FreeBSD is now installed... (and > I'm really hoping that nothing went wrong with the > base system, and thinking to just install perl and > xorg later). > > I removed the cd, and boot the pc. The kernel boots > silently until this error message showed up: > > > ad0 Warning_Read_DMA UDMA ICRC error(retrying request) > LBA=1518639 > ad0: Failure_Read_DMA status=51 > error=84 LBA=1518639 > spec_getpages:(ad0s1a) I/O read failure:(error=5) > bp0xc65fe2ec vp0xc16f7d68 > size: 32768,resid:32768,a_count:37268, valid: 0x0 > nread:0, reqpage:7, pindex:61, pcount:8 > vm_fault:pager read error, pid 55(sh) > pid 55(sh),uid 0:exited on signal 11 > Dec 24 17:28:39 init: /bin/sh on /etc/rc terminated > abnormally, going to single user mode > Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: I suspect a bad Drive Cable. Could you tell us about how you have installed the drives? I mean master slave-configuration,etc Regards S. 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Dec 2004 17:16:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBOGGhhI040960; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:16:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:16:43 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: James Message-ID: <20041224161643.GA40553@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , James , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041224065512.29367.qmail@rahul.net> <200412240326.16142.james@idea-anvil.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200412240326.16142.james@idea-anvil.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=failed version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on ei.bzerk.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail running on localhost 25? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:14:16 -0000 On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 03:26:15AM -0700, James typed: > Hello, > > Use: > sendmail_enable="none" > > This will disable all sendmail processes. This will also disable those annoying daily, weekly and montly messages recieved from cronjobs. Who wants to read about your disks filling up, attempts to break into your server and other futilities anyway ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 16:16:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D287216A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:16:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F2843D45 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:16:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so126142wra for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:16:06 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=mDL8ODEqcWr6vSwLwLmPCxZ7Afv4pRje1Gznq8E95L3Kspyigwpa0uz2Tj0Jn/Jnd2uII2u3l7zzyTlv4TFTDIDQiyx6+hUVb1tk+gCkWCjdIZ/wCh7ykooxRE7ZLEtfiNLeqncWlst0eUlzwcvK4heGohkbxzgLshTdeTH9ArA= Received: by 10.54.53.24 with SMTP id b24mr53861wra; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:16:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:16:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:16:06 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Questions In-Reply-To: <41CBE567.9080006@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41CBE567.9080006@infracaninophile.co.uk> Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:16:09 -0000 Great suggestions, everyone! Now, can we PLEASE move this thread off of -questions. It doesn't belong here. Thank you. -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 16:28:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D3416A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:28:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F6343D1D for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:28:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so131455wri for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:28:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ARw6S50qgdfHv0sLwRcM6yl/pCC6ZuyO/CjG528wP2juizGjCAyGj1acbpjmIs5jLQ8Rl3Y4ndNKef0jOlvz+u/stHd+4VT5EOXT57KMtzHfydIviy+TVhYLUPD+WElRLcSTv+QGO7swDg24QKdRzKoZDxSRq8SbUOSmBWoFJKc= Received: by 10.54.29.67 with SMTP id c67mr590799wrc; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:28:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:28:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:28:02 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200412240326.16142.james@idea-anvil.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041224065512.29367.qmail@rahul.net> <200412240326.16142.james@idea-anvil.net> Subject: Re: sendmail running on localhost 25? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:28:04 -0000 On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:26:15 -0700, James wrote: > Hello, > > Use: > sendmail_enable="none" > > This will disable all sendmail processes. Please don't top-post. Also, the above is deprecated, and the pertinent documentation shows the following: sendmail_enable="NO" sendmail_submit_enable="NO" sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 16:30:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D0416A4CF for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:30:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5719143D39 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:30:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so126902wra for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:30:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=bmrQpvOGIvOffnq3G1zvTLK94jFT/Cew/8iPIk8byG7oFSGPcng1dMNRFBTUHxmqCnNnGmNUT/3uL3Ss4X2eGds8+j2fpTAkKtLfJ9mlH+b5jQA2i0O385o/66fyv4H3k+bNp5sHfSHUAQUNYDAg5S7CUKK9VT9e6IEKmqoNVrc= Received: by 10.54.14.79 with SMTP id 79mr83935wrn; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:30:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:30:02 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Subhro In-Reply-To: <41cc3ff7.601f054a.7e21.0125@smtp.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041224145719.89760.qmail@web51607.mail.yahoo.com> <41cc3ff7.601f054a.7e21.0125@smtp.gmail.com> cc: Mark Jayson Alvarez cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this new hard drive going to be useless with freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:30:04 -0000 On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:42:32 +0530, Subhro wrote: > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Mark Jayson Alvarez > > Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 20:27 > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Is this new hard drive going to be useless with freebsd? > > > > > > Good day, > > > > I currently have this setup at home and its > > working fine with FreeBSD 4.10. > > > > Motherboard: Jetway 830CH > > Hard Drive: 10 Gb Samsung > > Video Card: SiS on-board > > Processor: AMD Athlon 1200 Mhz (this is not an > > Athlon XP) > > Memory: 256 mb PC100 SDRAM > > > > I bought a new 80 Gb Seagate 7200 rpm Hard Drive and > > installed it on the primary master my pc. > > The access mode for my hard drive > ST380011A> in BIOS which shows these choices is set to > > Auto: > > > > CHS > > LBA > > Large > > Auto > > > > I boot into FreeBSD 5.3 cd and proceed with the > > installation. Some time after choosing the X-User in > > the installation method, it ended up failing to > > install some packages(perl and xorg). Still, it says, > > Congratulations... FreeBSD is now installed... (and > > I'm really hoping that nothing went wrong with the > > base system, and thinking to just install perl and > > xorg later). > > > > I removed the cd, and boot the pc. The kernel boots > > silently until this error message showed up: > > > > > > ad0 Warning_Read_DMA UDMA ICRC error(retrying request) > > LBA=1518639 > > ad0: Failure_Read_DMA status=51 > > error=84 LBA=1518639 > > spec_getpages:(ad0s1a) I/O read failure:(error=5) > > bp0xc65fe2ec vp0xc16f7d68 > > size: 32768,resid:32768,a_count:37268, valid: 0x0 > > nread:0, reqpage:7, pindex:61, pcount:8 > > vm_fault:pager read error, pid 55(sh) > > pid 55(sh),uid 0:exited on signal 11 > > Dec 24 17:28:39 init: /bin/sh on /etc/rc terminated > > abnormally, going to single user mode > > Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: > > I suspect a bad Drive Cable. Could you tell us about how you have installed > the drives? I mean master slave-configuration,etc Or it could be a problem with the broken DMA on 5.3 that countless others have posted to this list about? -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 16:31:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4DB16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:31:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9007043D53 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:31:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so126989wra for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:31:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=QUGU1G99jwBMRyViZ2v87YwS0BGsJf9MQXPIzKHdgYRmlOiTuAUdq497Pu4+wl1y7LV3Bt02TB1MMYBYlcb2iIsZJruAFe38VT7KNMjTez1ctk2V8gq4oSgXqOEoKhT45uBqc6zScDGCypbFMBgULi45HBburi5hUru31hjKbIw= Received: by 10.54.6.57 with SMTP id 57mr533096wrf; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:31:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:31:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:31:40 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: "Peter N. M. Hansteen" In-Reply-To: <86wtv8m1da.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041223224234.01432DD9A@cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com> <86wtv8m1da.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> cc: comm/JT cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:31:42 -0000 On 24 Dec 2004 11:33:53 +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > "comm/JT" writes: > > > Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some documentation to > > fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this and > > seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and outdated > > document. > > In my experience, it should be pretty straightforward. There are a > couple of things which are not done automagically by the port, IIRC - > > * adding the lines > > exim_enable="YES" > sendmail_enable="NONE" > > to /etc/rc.conf Although this is deprecated. Please use the following rather than sendmail_enable="NONE": sendmail_enable="NO" sendmail_submit_enable="NO" sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 16:38:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCDA16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:38:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.nordlines.ru (nordlines.ru [62.117.91.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C455743D2F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:38:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alexeik@nordlines.ru) Received: from [62.117.91.253] (helo=[172.16.0.56]) by www.nordlines.ru with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (SMTP) id 1Chw91-000E1G-5C for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:34:39 +0000 Message-ID: <41CC461B.50805@nordlines.ru> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:38:51 +0300 From: alexei kozlov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: does FreeBSD support nvidia ethernet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:38:57 -0000 Hello, Gurus. I have EPOX 8rda3 motherboard based on nvidia2 chipset with 2 ethernet interfaces. One is well known -- rtl8139. It works (great). The other is based on nvidia chipset. And I do not know what to do to activate it in FreeBSD. What driver support this ethernet interface. Thanks, Alexei From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 23:49:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DE916A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:49:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web25104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.10.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B2E5B43D2F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:49:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lilith_cu@yahoo.es) Received: (qmail 14719 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Dec 2004 23:49:24 -0000 Message-ID: <20041223234924.14717.qmail@web25104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [169.158.81.131] by web25104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:49:24 CET Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:49:24 +0100 (CET) From: "Lilith B." To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:40:11 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:49:26 -0000 como activar el scroll del mouse ps/2. How activate ps/2 mouse scroll --------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 09:46:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB2116A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:46:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from male.aldigital.co.uk (male.thebunker.net [213.129.64.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7383643D48; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:46:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by male.aldigital.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42BE69774A; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:46:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1])iBO9kMcF004839; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:46:23 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <41CBE567.9080006@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:46:15 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041213) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig0E3EE4B1CD80064A663C0D29" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:40:11 +0000 cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: Daniel Blendea cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: jsha cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: Nikolas Britton cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Paul Richards Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:46:30 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig0E3EE4B1CD80064A663C0D29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > I think there's more FreeBSD installations than Apple installations, > way, way more. Obscurity is in the eye of the beholder. And talk is > cheap. The FreeBSD documentation team has already asked the FreeBSD > community to do a site redesign, see here: > > http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/current.html#website-css > > Nobody has stepped up to do it. Since your so hot to redesign the > site why don't you e-mail them and get going on doing it instead of > talking about it? Errr... Not so. Admittedly, this was posted just a few days ago, but people are working on CSS-izing the FreeBSD.org web site: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2004-December/006616.html Elsewhere on this thread there has been some talk about organizing a design competition to see who can come up with the best concept for the site. Strikes me that a good way to do that would be along the lines of this competition to redesign the W3.org site: http://w3mix.web-graphics.com/entries.php ie. take the existing content and write a style sheet to present it in the best possible way. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK --------------enig0E3EE4B1CD80064A663C0D29 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQcvlbpr7OpndfbmCAQIGwQQAtPJ5gidYIVlDXxGckJDixrgf95m+pR0C NGU4h0l+Bx7BVbVvy19omNjKH7TSFv6XKHgYH1opab2bSsMwl0s14YDcrpSFg9wZ FjEDV4NwCPhxkvpfQsVIA2Fe9JxmxL3hgCSUbP377H5M3vFWezU3Q2trkAB0XKiz Af41EuiatbM= =wLgO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig0E3EE4B1CD80064A663C0D29-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 00:13:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADEF416A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:13:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web26508.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web26508.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.176.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E4F3743D46 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:13:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igeo_cu@yahoo.es) Received: (qmail 88554 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Dec 2004 00:13:14 -0000 Message-ID: <20041224001314.88552.qmail@web26508.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [169.158.81.131] by web26508.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:13:14 CET Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 01:13:14 +0100 (CET) From: "Geo B." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:42:35 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:13:15 -0000 como activar el scroll del mouse ps/2. How activate ps/2 mouse scroll --------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 16:09:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8108C16A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:09:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpq2.home.nl (smtpq2.home.nl [213.51.128.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD17B43D2F; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:09:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dodell@sitetronics.com) Received: from [213.51.128.132] (port=38963 helo=smtp1.home.nl) by smtpq2.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Chs0N-00038B-LI; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:09:27 +0100 Received: from cc740438-a.deven1.ov.home.nl ([82.75.136.183]:4159 helo=[192.168.1.42]) by smtp1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Chs0M-0003XW-Ft; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:09:26 +0100 Message-ID: <41CC3F35.7010304@sitetronics.com> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:09:25 +0100 From: "Devon H. O'Dell" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <41CBE567.9080006@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <41CBE567.9080006@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:42:35 +0000 cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: Ted Mittelstaedt cc: Daniel Blendea cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: jsha cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: Nikolas Britton cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Paul Richards Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:09:36 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> I think there's more FreeBSD installations than Apple installations, >> way, way more. Obscurity is in the eye of the beholder. And talk is >> cheap. The FreeBSD documentation team has already asked the FreeBSD >> community to do a site redesign, see here: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/current.html#website-css >> >> Nobody has stepped up to do it. Since your so hot to redesign the >> site why don't you e-mail them and get going on doing it instead of >> talking about it? > > > Errr... Not so. Admittedly, this was posted just a few days ago, but > people are working on CSS-izing the FreeBSD.org web site: > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2004-December/006616.html > > Elsewhere on this thread there has been some talk about organizing a > design competition to see who can come up with the best concept for the > site. Strikes me that a good way to do that would be along the lines of > this competition to redesign the W3.org site: > > http://w3mix.web-graphics.com/entries.php > > ie. take the existing content and write a style sheet to present it in > the best possible way. > > Cheers, > > Matthew I'm going to be drawing up the rules for the competition soon. I think the best way to do it would indeed be to just create an HTML 4.01 Strict-compliant page and ask people to do CSS for it -- as might be done for csszengarden.com. Kind regards, Devon H. O'Dell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 16:43:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E61B16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:43:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E97F43D46 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:43:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205])iBOGai1I063913; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:36:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) iBOGgwEM000980; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:42:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBOGgvpU000979; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:42:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:42:57 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: David Vincelli Message-ID: <20041224164257.GC592@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <7227803f041223222861547e39@mail.gmail.com> <20041224160008.GB592@nosferatu.blackend.org> <7227803f0412240809b40b5ed@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7227803f0412240809b40b5ed@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pioneer DVR-108 can burn DVDs, can't mount them! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:43:01 -0000 On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 11:09:51AM -0500, David Vincelli wrote: > Exactly as from the handbook. > > I blanked a DVD-RW using: > > # dvd+rw-format -blank=full /dev/cd0 > > I burned a DVD-RW, using: > > # growisofs -Z /dev/cd0 -J -R /usr/backup > > and I tried a DVD+R, using: > > # growisofs -Z /dev/cd0 -J -R /usr/backup > > Note that I can't mount regular DVDs either (the only thing I had on > hand was a ms Office 2003 DVD). > You mean you cannot mount any DVDs? You use something like: mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0 /cdrom or mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom ? Could you try with hw.ata.atapi_dma="0" in /boot/loader.conf Marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 16:53:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFF216A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:53:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC1743D2D for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:53:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from twinmp (12-218-40-24.client.mchsi.com[12.218.40.24]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with ESMTP id <20041224165300m91000d7qce>; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:53:00 +0000 From: Josh Paetzel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:52:59 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <41C6EE24.4080606@vilot.com> <20041224155358.GB15993@akroteq.com> <200412241006.47078.algould@datawok.com> In-Reply-To: <200412241006.47078.algould@datawok.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412241652.59449.josh@tcbug.org> cc: Andy Firman Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:53:01 -0000 On Friday 24 December 2004 16:06, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > On Friday 24 December 2004 09:53 am, Andy Firman wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:54:51PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > Then the thing to do is create another root account and make > > > the default shell for that one be bash, leaving the root root > > > be /bin/sh. > > > > So for those of us that want to go back to the way things should > > be, (leaving root shell be /bin/sh) I fire up vipw and change > > this: > > > > root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/usr/local/bin/bash > > > > to this: > > > > root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/sh > > > > Right? > > > > Then I keep using sudo all the time. But if I need to do some > > big work as root, I can su to root and get bash simply by typing: > > > > /usr/local/bin/bash > > > > Right? > > > > > > Just want to be clear on this. > > > > Thanks. > > I think that should do it. > > If you wanted root to use bash all the time, couldn't you > compile/install a static version into /bin/? I've never done it; > but I know that NetBSD has some statically linked shells in their > ports (pkgsrc) that install to /bin/, so I would think it should be > possible. > > Best of luck, > > Andrew Gould I've always been curious as to why you can't(shouldn't?) just change the shell that root uses. -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 16:54:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D9916A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:54:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.desa-projekt.de (mail.desa-projekt.de [217.172.178.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEEA43D1F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:54:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@bsdberlin.org) Received: (qmail 32590 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2004 16:54:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO webmail.desa-projekt.de) (127.0.0.1) by mail.desa-projekt.de with SMTP; 24 Dec 2004 16:54:33 -0000 Received: from 62.158.93.173 (authenticated user); by webmail.desa-projekt.de with HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:54:33 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3954.62.158.93.173.1103907273.lists-fbsd@bsdberlin.org> In-Reply-To: <20041224001314.88552.qmail@web26508.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20041224001314.88552.qmail@web26508.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:54:33 +0100 (CET) From: "Danny Koenig" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: DESA-Webmail 2.2 X-Mailer: DESA-Webmail 2.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:54:33 -0000 > How activate ps/2 mouse scroll Add following lines into your XF86Config in section "InputDevice". Option "Buttons" "5" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" -- Danny Koenig BSD User Group Berlin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 16:57:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4A416A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:57:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E389743D1F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:57:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micologist@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so103357rnz for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:57:14 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=TomXdRoUhTyalQ8CrEAnVPbUxAcPyk+ZAiAwdFrihhSPPcYeOFx+0jHAkFRYiAMiapEhJo3Q5Cb4JVsmUKQ/7Sszu5aDRr97/PomPZ1OczY5jRQvAHQyCcCarGHov68V0M/+GJRllzjOoBVQxBt4NGb+oV8iPfddmHQZqsdufHI= Received: by 10.38.179.3 with SMTP id b3mr58712rnf; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:57:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.8.51 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:57:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7227803f04122408577867a7a8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:57:14 -0500 From: David Vincelli To: Marc Fonvieille , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041224164257.GC592@nosferatu.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <7227803f041223222861547e39@mail.gmail.com> <20041224160008.GB592@nosferatu.blackend.org> <7227803f0412240809b40b5ed@mail.gmail.com> <20041224164257.GC592@nosferatu.blackend.org> Subject: Re: Pioneer DVR-108 can burn DVDs, can't mount them! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David Vincelli List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:57:16 -0000 That's exactly what I mean (I can't mount any DVDs at all). I tried with both devices, they both fail. mount: Input/Output error. I'll try with dma disabled on atapi devices (I assume hw.ata.atpai_dma="0" means disable dma for atapi devices) when I have access to the box - it's at work and the office is closed. I think some chipset on my motherboard is left uncofigured though. I'll post the dmesg when I get back to work (jan 3rd). I'll also post that lovely error message. Thanks for your help. On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:42:57 +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > You mean you cannot mount any DVDs? > You use something like: > > mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0 /cdrom > or > mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom > > ? > > Could you try with hw.ata.atapi_dma="0" in /boot/loader.conf > > Marc > -- David Vincelli From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 17:00:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E731F16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:00:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from net.netophilia.net (ns.netophilia.net [66.96.216.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1BE43D48 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:00:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@netophilia.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.netophilia.net [127.0.0.1]) by net.netophilia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB181C9D8; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:00:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from net.netophilia.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (net.netophilia.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 86950-08; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:00:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by net.netophilia.net (Postfix, from userid 1005) id C4F691C9D6; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:00:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:00:43 -0500 From: Dan Kilbourne To: "Lilith B." Message-ID: <20041224170043.GA26561@netophilia.net> References: <20041223234924.14717.qmail@web25104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041223234924.14717.qmail@web25104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Organization: netophilia.net Visit: http://netophilia.net User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at netophilia.net cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: your mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:00:53 -0000 Lilith B. extolled: > como activar el scroll del mouse ps/2. > > How activate ps/2 mouse scroll > > If the mouse itself works, but the mouse scroll wheel does not, just add the following to your mouse definition in your X config file: Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Example Mouse definition (Logitech USB Scroll mouse): Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection -- ___ Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 17:02:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 178A016A4CF; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:02:01 +0000 (GMT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20041224170201.178A016A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:02:01 +0000 (GMT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:02:01 -0000 How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update $Date: 2004/09/19 02:40:48 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from freebsd-questions-request@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! 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Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? =================================================== Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In addition, the FreeBSD-newbies list caters specifically for people who are new to FreeBSD and may be having trouble getting used to the environment. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. 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If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If you're new to FreeBSD, and the message is about your own relationship to FreeBSD, send the message to FreeBSD-newbies. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. 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The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. $Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.5 2004/09/19 02:40:48 grog Exp $ _______________________________________________ Thanks to Josh Paetzel for updating this document to describe mailman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 17:02:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 1D3DD16A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:02:01 +0000 (GMT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20041224170201.1D3DD16A4CE@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:02:01 +0000 (GMT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:02:01 -0000 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm constantly updating it. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 17:02:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2E316A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:02:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A482943D1F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:02:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jayobrien@worldnet.att.net) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (dsl093-180-184.sac1.dsl.speakeasy.net[66.93.180.184]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with ESMTP id <2004122417023211100j8jgqe> (Authid: jayobrien@att.net); Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:02:32 +0000 Message-ID: <41CC4BA6.3060806@att.net> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:02:30 -0800 From: Jay O'Brien User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD - questions References: <41CBB0D6.6080807@att.net> <41CBC255.2070309@att.net> <200412232338.09555.reso3w83@verizon.net> <200412241554.03932.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> In-Reply-To: <200412241554.03932.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:02:40 -0000 RW wrote: > On Friday 24 December 2004 07:38, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > >>On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:16 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: >> >>>Michael C. Shultz wrote: >>> >>>>On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: >>>> >>>>>I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports cvsup. >>>>>Following the Dru Lavigne article on portupgrade at >>>>>http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page >>>>>=1 I installed portupgrade and then ran portsdb -Uu. It errored >>>>>out, telling me that I shouldn't use my "refuse" file that stopped >>>>>the non- english docs and ports from being loaded on my HD. >>>>> >>>>>In trying to understand this issue, I found portmanager, and it >>>>>looks like it would perform the same function as portupgrade. >>>>> >>>>>My questions: Is there a way around the "refuse" file prohibition, >>>>>perhaps with portmanager? Does portmanager replace portupgrade? >>>> >>>>portmanager doesn't require the INDEX files to keep ports up to >>>>date, so the refuse file is a non issue with it. >>>> >>>>-Mike >>> >>>Sounds good. What's the downside, if any, to using portmanager >>>instead of portupgrade? >> >>All of your ports will be built with the correct dependencies, they will >>work better leaving you less to complain about in the mail lists and so >>you will become bored. Because everything is working exactly as it >>should you may begin to think you are a Maytag repair man, nothing much >>to do, just always setting around waiting for something to break..... > > > I don't use portmanager myself, but isn't it the case that portmanager > rebuilds not just ports that have newer versions in the ports tree, but also > all ports that recursively depend on those ports. > > I just updated kdehier with portupgrade in about a minute. The whole of KDE > depends on kdehier, so presumably portmanager would have taken several days, > and kdehier isn't particularly unusual. I would see that as a major downside. > > When it's necessary UPDATING will suggest running portupgrade -rf to force > rebuilding. That kind of UPDATING entry is in a small minority, which > suggests to me that most of the problems with ports don't stem from the > sequence of their updating, so I can't see how portmanager is any kind of > magic-bullet. > > So portmanager rebuilds whether it needs it or not, and portupgrade only rebuilds when there is a later distribution of the software? The distinction between the two is not clear to me. This is my first try to update ports, and I want to set up a procedure for updating that I can follow in the future. Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 17:02:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD4216A4CF for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:02:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from raptor.cigb.edu.cu (ns.cigb.edu.cu [200.55.134.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B2BB43D41 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:02:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from osmany.guirola@cigb.edu.cu) Received: from atlas.cigb.edu.cu ([172.16.1.12]) by raptor.cigb.edu.cu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:02:35 -0400 Received: from Unknown [172.16.1.4] by atlas.cigb.edu.cu - SurfControl E-mail Filter (4.6); Friday, 24 December 2004, 13:02:28 Received: from [172.16.11.106] ([172.16.11.106]) by mercurio.cigb.edu.cu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:02:27 -0400 Message-ID: <41CC137E.8040708@cigb.edu.cu> From: Osmany Guirola Cruz To: "Geo B." Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:02:54 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Dec 2004 17:02:27.0547 (UTC) FILETIME=[58D14AB0:01C4E9DA] References: <20041224001314.88552.qmail@web26508.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20041224001314.88552.qmail@web26508.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041223) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:02:59 -0000 Geo B. wrote: >como activar el scroll del mouse ps/2. > > >How activate ps/2 mouse scroll > > > >--------------------------------- > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Add this option to the xorg(xfree) conf file Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 17:04:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F1B16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:04:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (fia148-72.dsl.hccnet.nl [62.251.72.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA6343D31 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:04:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id iBOEcFg00914; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:38:19 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:38:15 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Josh Paetzel In-Reply-To: <200412241652.59449.josh@tcbug.org> Message-ID: References: <41C6EE24.4080606@vilot.com> <20041224155358.GB15993@akroteq.com> <200412241006.47078.algould@datawok.com> <200412241652.59449.josh@tcbug.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: Andy Firman cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:04:14 -0000 On Dec 24, Josh Paetzel launched this into the bitstream: > On Friday 24 December 2004 16:06, Andrew L. Gould wrote: >> On Friday 24 December 2004 09:53 am, Andy Firman wrote: >>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:54:51PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: >>>> Then the thing to do is create another root account and make >>>> the default shell for that one be bash, leaving the root root >>>> be /bin/sh. >>> >>> So for those of us that want to go back to the way things should >>> be, (leaving root shell be /bin/sh) I fire up vipw and change >>> this: >>> >>> root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/usr/local/bin/bash >>> >>> to this: >>> >>> root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/sh >>> >>> Right? >>> >>> Then I keep using sudo all the time. But if I need to do some >>> big work as root, I can su to root and get bash simply by typing: >>> >>> /usr/local/bin/bash >>> >>> Right? >>> >>> >>> Just want to be clear on this. >>> >>> Thanks. >> >> I think that should do it. >> >> If you wanted root to use bash all the time, couldn't you >> compile/install a static version into /bin/? I've never done it; >> but I know that NetBSD has some statically linked shells in their >> ports (pkgsrc) that install to /bin/, so I would think it should be >> possible. >> >> Best of luck, >> >> Andrew Gould > > I've always been curious as to why you can't(shouldn't?) just change > the shell that root uses. Josh that's been the backbone of this particular thread over the last few days. I'd check the archives and follow the entire thread all the way through, in order to view the (rather eloquent) arguments for and against that have been posted. FWIW (and that's maybe not much) at installation time I use the default shell when su'd, but when I get a new box up and reasonably configured I switch root shell to bash. Notwithstanding all the reasons raised wherein it's thought that "you shouldn't" I've honestly never run into a problem with it - thus far anyway. If eventually I do, well there y'go I guess, I'll rethink the matter through if (or when) the bad things happen. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 17:11:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B74B16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:11:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1038B43D45 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:11:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1Chsy6-0004f4-HF; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:11:10 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: Josh Paetzel Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:12:08 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <41C6EE24.4080606@vilot.com> <200412241006.47078.algould@datawok.com> <200412241652.59449.josh@tcbug.org> In-Reply-To: <200412241652.59449.josh@tcbug.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200412241112.08777.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc173f08cb782d349a69e1553d485151b7350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: Andy Firman cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:11:11 -0000 On Friday 24 December 2004 10:52 am, Josh Paetzel wrote: <-snip-> > > I've always been curious as to why you can't(shouldn't?) just change > the shell that root uses. I think it has to do with the fact that some shells executables are in /bin and others are in /usr/local/bin. Root users should use a shell in /bin so that if something goes wrong and the /usr partition doesn't get mounted during bootup, root can still use its default shell. Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 17:16:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A423516A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:16:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postbode02.zonnet.nl (postbode02.zonnet.nl [62.58.50.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63D343D1F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:16:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from f.staals@zonnet.nl) Received: (qmail 17713 invoked by uid 10); 24 Dec 2004 17:16:18 -0000 Received: (vexira-qq 17697-3F426873 invoked from network) 24 Dec 2004 18:16:17 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.2]) ([62.59.173.176]) (envelope-sender ) by postbode02.zonnet.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 24 Dec 2004 17:16:17 -0000 Message-ID: <41CC5CE6.4020402@zonnet.nl> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:16:06 +0000 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041109) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira MailArmor (version: 2.0.1.16; VAE: 6.29.0.5; VDF: 6.29.0.34; host: postbode02.zonnet.nl) Subject: mkfifo: No such file or directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:16:20 -0000 I want to use my printer which is on a windoze computer to use on my intire network ( most FreeBSD computers ) so I read this http://www.freebsddiary.org/samba.php . As it is explained I did: mkfifo /dev/smbprint but I got this : bash-3.00# cd /dev/ bash-3.00# mkfifo smbprint mkfifo: smbprint: No such file or directory bash-3.00# Why can't I make an extra fifo ? Frank Staals From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 17:22:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C96916A4CF for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:22:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1418143D55 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:22:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so129735wra for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:22:02 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Rl162JZkt/BOIvNenuBfSDlhNsGZeht/x05G/82A9OR5PL9Fl14SkdCIIbsG0p9WLMvNjU6PKmvKZnmdYCOIYdV6bchn0I2LjONDjTjrNqkcUUNWlq+erH4Au2+x28WIvRq3EFe3neh0cgq6y51l7Jxb/YyFTpV6/hpfTmMXw2Y= Received: by 10.54.56.74 with SMTP id e74mr343748wra; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:22:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:22:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:22:02 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Jay O'Brien In-Reply-To: <41CC4BA6.3060806@att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41CBB0D6.6080807@att.net> <41CBC255.2070309@att.net> <200412232338.09555.reso3w83@verizon.net> <200412241554.03932.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <41CC4BA6.3060806@att.net> cc: FreeBSD - questions Subject: Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:22:03 -0000 On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:02:30 -0800, Jay O'Brien wrote: > RW wrote: > > > On Friday 24 December 2004 07:38, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > > >>On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:16 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: > >> > >>>Michael C. Shultz wrote: > >>> > >>>>On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports cvsup. > >>>>>Following the Dru Lavigne article on portupgrade at > >>>>>http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page > >>>>>=1 I installed portupgrade and then ran portsdb -Uu. It errored > >>>>>out, telling me that I shouldn't use my "refuse" file that stopped > >>>>>the non- english docs and ports from being loaded on my HD. > >>>>> > >>>>>In trying to understand this issue, I found portmanager, and it > >>>>>looks like it would perform the same function as portupgrade. > >>>>> > >>>>>My questions: Is there a way around the "refuse" file prohibition, > >>>>>perhaps with portmanager? Does portmanager replace portupgrade? > >>>> > >>>>portmanager doesn't require the INDEX files to keep ports up to > >>>>date, so the refuse file is a non issue with it. > >>>> > >>>>-Mike > >>> > >>>Sounds good. What's the downside, if any, to using portmanager > >>>instead of portupgrade? > >> > >>All of your ports will be built with the correct dependencies, they will > >>work better leaving you less to complain about in the mail lists and so > >>you will become bored. Because everything is working exactly as it > >>should you may begin to think you are a Maytag repair man, nothing much > >>to do, just always setting around waiting for something to break..... > > > > > > I don't use portmanager myself, but isn't it the case that portmanager > > rebuilds not just ports that have newer versions in the ports tree, but also > > all ports that recursively depend on those ports. > > > > I just updated kdehier with portupgrade in about a minute. The whole of KDE > > depends on kdehier, so presumably portmanager would have taken several days, > > and kdehier isn't particularly unusual. I would see that as a major downside. > > > > When it's necessary UPDATING will suggest running portupgrade -rf to force > > rebuilding. That kind of UPDATING entry is in a small minority, which > > suggests to me that most of the problems with ports don't stem from the > > sequence of their updating, so I can't see how portmanager is any kind of > > magic-bullet. > > > > > So portmanager rebuilds whether it needs it or not, and portupgrade > only rebuilds when there is a later distribution of the software? The > distinction between the two is not clear to me. I believe that what the responder was trying to get across is that portmanager handles the dependencies for you, where portupgrade will only handle dependencies if you spcify the appropriate flags on the command line, such as: # portupgrade -rR > This is my first try to update ports, and I want to set up a procedure > for updating that I can follow in the future. I've used portupgrade much more than portmanager. Portupgrade has never steered my wrong, when I have read /usr/src/UPDATING and followed the proper procedures. -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 17:25:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F6C16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:25:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 307EA43D2F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:25:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so136427wri for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:25:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=cc3NjkORANcBfEZe4TGIDZdLNjpBiqbBDUR34Ep9l7+/dxe8j8lF+Or9vgUrvN0hKYPtzZimVbEZ5qZavnWFCuH1P9Z9wVtx+eUJvHYhR4T4NJjvT3VqydRZs0EoICALZpfCXTetTLTUXvltJfqQl8oOH2PgkSAg4bkc/qWx0SM= Received: by 10.54.29.67 with SMTP id c67mr607495wrc; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:25:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:25:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:25:47 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: alexei kozlov In-Reply-To: <41CC461B.50805@nordlines.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41CC461B.50805@nordlines.ru> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: does FreeBSD support nvidia ethernet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:25:48 -0000 On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:38:51 +0300, alexei kozlov wrote: > Hello, Gurus. > > I have EPOX 8rda3 motherboard based on nvidia2 chipset with 2 ethernet > interfaces. > One is well known -- rtl8139. It works (great). > The other is based on nvidia chipset. And I do not know what to do to > activate it in FreeBSD. What driver support this ethernet interface. I believe the appropriate driver lives in: /usr/ports/net/nvnet -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 17:39:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A9016A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:39:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6CB43D46 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:39:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a130.otenet.gr [212.205.215.130]) iBOHdQ3L014970; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:39:27 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBOHdPaF002781; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:39:25 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBOHdPsn002780; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:39:25 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:39:25 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Colin J. Raven" Message-ID: <20041224173925.GB2696@gothmog.gr> References: <41C6EE24.4080606@vilot.com> <20041224155358.GB15993@akroteq.com> <200412241006.47078.algould@datawok.com> <200412241652.59449.josh@tcbug.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: Josh Paetzel cc: Andy Firman cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:39:40 -0000 On 2004-12-24 15:38, "Colin J. Raven" wrote: > On Dec 24, Josh Paetzel launched this into the bitstream: > >I've always been curious as to why you can't(shouldn't?) just change > >the shell that root uses. > > Josh that's been the backbone of this particular thread over the last > few days. I'd check the archives and follow the entire thread all the > way through, in order to view the (rather eloquent) arguments for and > against that have been posted. > > FWIW (and that's maybe not much) at installation time I use the default > shell when su'd, but when I get a new box up and reasonably configured I > switch root shell to bash. > > Notwithstanding all the reasons raised wherein it's thought that "you > shouldn't" I've honestly never run into a problem with it - thus far > anyway. If eventually I do, well there y'go I guess, I'll rethink the > matter through if (or when) the bad things happen. There is a case that even a statically linked bash may fail, leaving you with a system that can only boot in single user mode: - When the system ABI changes in a way that ports *are* broken, even if compiled statically. The system ABI (application binary interface) may change in an incompatible way only if you're running CURRENT and the internals of some library change drastically. This should *never* affect the binaries built as part of the recommended buildworld/buildkernel cycle, which means that /bin/csh and /bin/sh should still work. Applications compiled from the Ports _may_ break though. Even if statically linked. Having said that, I have been using `exec bash -l' as the first command after I su to root for a long time now, and it only broke once (when the stdin/stdout/stderr changes where made to libc). - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 17:53:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B40C16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:53:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E91143D49 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:53:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fj@panix.com) Received: from panix5.panix.com (panix5.panix.com [166.84.1.5]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4430B58AA5 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:53:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fj@localhost) by panix5.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id iBOHrio09138 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:53:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:53:44 -0500 From: Joe Altman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041224175344.GA11861@panix.com> Mail-Followup-To: Joe Altman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <200412241627.51795.bastill@adam.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200412241627.51795.bastill@adam.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:53:45 -0000 On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 04:27:51PM -0500, Brian Astill wrote: > > Could this conversation please be moved to -advocacy and ONLY to > -advocacy? Seconded. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 18:04:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F2116A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:04:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B012943D3F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:04:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alfredoj69@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so200789wri for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:04:30 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hkoVjU7mvbUGImZdO1uGxuQYYkqvE4kPfAPPwwNZULXWfcgrnumpQgg7dpGoMG9O9nvLbvIgWLEDOiZcC/J9CeDGzxnNqcGL/5ocmsIXt8XQt+5tVQGBgkotTTsQAxCzN4DKgOOa0BZORNMtF9g2tvZpRxWdk+1jtHCAzZpV2Zw= Received: by 10.54.1.69 with SMTP id 69mr414875wra; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:04:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.26.59 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:04:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:04:29 -0500 From: Alfredo Perez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Error sending email with mutt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alfredo Perez List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:04:31 -0000 Hi I am running freebsd 5.3 Release I am trying to send emails with Mutt and I am getting this message: SMTP 552 sorry, You envelop sender domain must exist" Does anybody knows what it means and how I can fix it? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 18:17:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09DBA16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:17:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3396E43D41 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:17:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a130.otenet.gr [212.205.215.130]) iBOIHT2h019086; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:17:30 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBOIHTDx019209; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:17:29 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBOIHSDV019208; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:17:28 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:17:28 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Alfredo Perez Message-ID: <20041224181727.GB18851@gothmog.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error sending email with mutt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:17:33 -0000 On 2004-12-24 13:04, Alfredo Perez wrote: > Hi I am running freebsd 5.3 Release > > I am trying to send emails with Mutt and I am getting this message: > > SMTP 552 sorry, You envelop sender domain must exist" > > Does anybody knows what it means and how I can fix it? Add this option to your .muttrc file: set envelope_from=yes # set envelope-from address from From: header See if that fixes the problem. You are probably trying to post with mutt through the MTA of your machine without having a resolvable host/domain. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 18:18:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E7616A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:18:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F3E43D1D for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:18:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fj@panix.com) Received: from panix5.panix.com (panix5.panix.com [166.84.1.5]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D406559592; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:17:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fj@localhost) by panix5.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id iBOIHvn01678; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:17:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:17:57 -0500 From: Joe Altman To: Joshua Lokken , comm@rwx.ca Message-ID: <20041224181757.GB11861@panix.com> Mail-Followup-To: Joe Altman , Joshua Lokken , comm@rwx.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041223224234.01432DD9A@cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com> <86wtv8m1da.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:18:00 -0000 On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 10:31:40AM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote: > > "comm/JT" writes: > > > > > Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some documentation to > > > fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this and > > > seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and outdated > > > document. > > Although this is deprecated. Please use the following rather > than sendmail_enable="NONE": > > sendmail_enable="NO" > sendmail_submit_enable="NO" > sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" > sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" Where do you see this: sendmail_enable="NONE" labelled as deprecated? That doesn't appear to be the case, in the documentation I have accessed. To the OP: the query you make is an FAQ, and the basic answers are in the Exim documentation, with a specific section on FreeBSD. You can find the answers by installing the HTML docs via the port, or at exim.org. Do you have the docs for exim installed on your local machine? The two questions you will likely need are 9201 and 9202, as well as the handbook documentation telling you how to change your MTA. That is in chapter 22. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 18:25:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1225D16A4D1 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:25:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from enterprise.thenetnow.com (enterprise.thenetnow.com [65.39.193.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC0343D45 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:25:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from GRANT (hpeel.ody.ca [216.240.12.2])iBOIPkG97649 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:25:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Message-ID: <001f01c4e9e5$fed8cc20$6401a8c0@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:25:26 -0500 Organization: The Net Now MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: NFS fstab and ipfw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Grant Peel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:25:52 -0000 Hi all, I can't boot my machine with out using the noauto switch on my nfs mount, presumeably, because ipfw has'nt set up a tule to allow lo0 access. I have read some things about nfs_mount and wonder if the -i -s switch can be used in fstab on the nfs mount, or if there exists a switch that can be used to allow it to try to mount the nfs in the background and allow the sytem to continue booting. -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 18:31:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D4E16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:31:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F332C43D48 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:31:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so133667wra for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:31:37 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=HSJJtgRVdws32jWZgL2E3ZGf+tdLzIIL3PLXhPveFG8Ci+IyjmJl1cNjiuzQpMaGEE4C0UmKUDZ/g4PalSoNn9YSq1Rtz30WlOR/c9UrorQQwa37xlPfF24SdL9pHdDfy0xbcapXjQa3VIn0ZGpjEUzJw9U5+Zxmplyz8gCS37c= Received: by 10.54.11.45 with SMTP id 45mr128159wrk; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:31:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:31:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:31:37 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041224181757.GB11861@panix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041223224234.01432DD9A@cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com> <86wtv8m1da.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20041224181757.GB11861@panix.com> Subject: Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:31:38 -0000 On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:17:57 -0500, Joe Altman wrote: > On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 10:31:40AM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote: > > > "comm/JT" writes: > > > > > > > Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some documentation to > > > > fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this and > > > > seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and outdated > > > > document. > > > > > Although this is deprecated. Please use the following rather > > than sendmail_enable="NONE": > > > > sendmail_enable="NO" > > sendmail_submit_enable="NO" > > sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" > > sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" > > Where do you see this: > > sendmail_enable="NONE" labelled as deprecated? That doesn't appear to > be the case, in the documentation I have accessed. I 'see this' in man rc.sendmail(8): sendmail_enable (str) If set to ``YES'', run the sendmail(8) daemon at system boot time. If set to ``NO'', do not run a sendmail(8) daemon to listen for incoming network mail. This does not preclude a sendmail(8) daemon listening on the SMTP port of the loopback interface. The ``NONE'' option is deprecated and should not be used. It will be removed in a future release. -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 18:33:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89AA16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:33:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA4343D1D for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:33:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B9D07519B6; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:33:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:33:18 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Frank Staals Message-ID: <20041224183318.GA99768@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41CC5CE6.4020402@zonnet.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41CC5CE6.4020402@zonnet.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: mkfifo: No such file or directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:33:19 -0000 --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 06:16:06PM +0000, Frank Staals wrote: > I want to use my printer which is on a windoze computer to use on my=20 > intire network ( most FreeBSD computers ) so I read this=20 > http://www.freebsddiary.org/samba.php . As it is explained I did: mkfifo= =20 > /dev/smbprint but I got this : >=20 > bash-3.00# cd /dev/ > bash-3.00# mkfifo smbprint > mkfifo: smbprint: No such file or directory > bash-3.00# >=20 > Why can't I make an extra fifo ? You forgot to mention what version of FreeBSD you're running; if it's 5.x, you can't create random files in /dev because it's not a general-purpose filesystem (i.e. the documentation you're reading is out of date). Kris --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBzGDuWry0BWjoQKURAnMMAKDo6MRVZRmzvikxyizLn+DZwmLnfACfeULo /U7QdnUyVO9xdhTFmwe3xgU= =QD9C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 18:53:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8604716A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:53:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04DF143D1D for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:53:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a130.otenet.gr [212.205.215.130]) iBOIrgBM004972; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:53:44 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBOIrX9E045180; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:53:33 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBOIrUIe045179; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:53:30 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:53:30 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Grant Peel Message-ID: <20041224185330.GA26975@gothmog.gr> References: <001f01c4e9e5$fed8cc20$6401a8c0@GRANT> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001f01c4e9e5$fed8cc20$6401a8c0@GRANT> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS fstab and ipfw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:53:49 -0000 On 2004-12-24 13:25, Grant Peel wrote: > Hi all, > > I can't boot my machine with out using the noauto switch on my nfs mount, > presumeably, because ipfw has'nt set up a tule to allow lo0 access. > > I have read some things about nfs_mount and wonder if the -i -s switch can > be used in fstab on the nfs mount, or if there exists a switch that can be > used to allow it to try to mount the nfs in the background and allow the > sytem to continue booting. That doesn't sound right. The order of the rc.d scripts is set up to allow NFS mounts: : gothmog:/root# rcorder /etc/rc.d/* | egrep -e 'ipfw|mount' : /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal : /etc/rc.d/ipfw : /etc/rc.d/mountcritremote : /etc/rc.d/mountd : gothmog:/root# Are you sure you are not blocking NFS mounts in your firewall ruleset? - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 19:03:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D65116A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:03:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay15-f33.bay15.hotmail.com [65.54.185.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E3843D31 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:03:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdagee@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:03:00 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 68.185.36.149 by by15fd.bay15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:02:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.185.36.149] X-Originating-Email: [kdagee@hotmail.com] X-Sender: kdagee@hotmail.com From: "Karl Agee" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:02:21 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Dec 2004 19:03:00.0634 (UTC) FILETIME=[3012C7A0:01C4E9EB] Subject: gnome-cd: connecting to cddb server as user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:03:01 -0000 Freebsd 4.11-pre, gnome-lite 2.8.1. using gnome-cd to listen to cd's in my user acct, but it wont connect to the cddb server to pull down cd info. It does when I do it as root, however. The only error I see is this: ** (gnome-cd:671): WARNING **: could not contact cddb server how to fix???? --Karl _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 19:05:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B0516A4CF for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:05:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB6043D1D for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:05:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fj@panix.com) Received: from panix5.panix.com (panix5.panix.com [166.84.1.5]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9122B981CF; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:05:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fj@localhost) by panix5.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id iBOJ5UX17302; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:05:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:05:30 -0500 From: Joe Altman To: Joshua Lokken Message-ID: <20041224190530.GA29788@panix.com> Mail-Followup-To: Joe Altman , Joshua Lokken , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041223224234.01432DD9A@cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com> <86wtv8m1da.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20041224181757.GB11861@panix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:05:31 -0000 On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 12:31:37PM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote: > On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:17:57 -0500, Joe Altman wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 10:31:40AM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote: > > > > "comm/JT" writes: > > > > > > > > > Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some documentation to > > > > > fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this and > > > > > seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and outdated > > > > > document. > > > > > > > > Although this is deprecated. Please use the following rather > > > than sendmail_enable="NONE": > > > > > > sendmail_enable="NO" > > > sendmail_submit_enable="NO" > > > sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" > > > sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" > > > > Where do you see this: > > > > sendmail_enable="NONE" labelled as deprecated? That doesn't appear to > > be the case, in the documentation I have accessed. > > I 'see this' in man rc.sendmail(8): > > sendmail_enable > (str) If set to ``YES'', run the sendmail(8) daemon at system > boot time. If set to ``NO'', do not run a sendmail(8) daemon to > listen for incoming network mail. This does not preclude a > sendmail(8) daemon listening on the SMTP port of the loopback > interface. The ``NONE'' option is deprecated and should not be > used. It will be removed in a future release. You mean this man rc.sendmail? RC.SENDMAIL(8) FreeBSD System Manager's Manual NAME rc.sendmail -- sendmail(8) startup script DESCRIPTION The rc.sendmail script is used by /etc/rc at boot time to start sendmail(8). It is meant to be sendmail(8) specific and not a generic script for all MTAs. Contrast with the handbook entry, for changing the MTA for a given machine: 22.4 Changing Your Mail Transfer Agent 22.4.4 Replacing sendmail as the System's Default Mailer Which addresses the OPs original request, I think: "...some documentation to fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine." I don't interpret the NONE directive as deprecated, for the mailer.conf wrapper, which is what should be used to "...fully move..." from sendmail to Exim, AFAICT. man mailer.conf and man mailwrapper. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 19:09:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE9616A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:09:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uni.net.ua (relay.uni.net.ua [195.140.160.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC5F43D2F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:09:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from artem@belichi.net.ua) Received: from artem [195.140.160.139] by uni.net.ua [195.140.160.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v5.0.5.R) for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:08:42 +0200 Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:08:43 +0200 From: =?Windows-1251?B?wPDy5ew=?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0) Professional Organization: =?Windows-1251?B?0uX17e5EcmVhbQ==?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <369903257.20041224210843@belichi.net.ua> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MDRemoteIP: 195.140.160.139 X-Return-Path: artem@belichi.net.ua X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?Windows-1251?B?wPDy5ew=?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:09:54 -0000 , freebsd-questions. ftp ??? -- , mailto:artem@belichi.net.ua From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 19:11:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BDA16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:11:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4384D43D2F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:11:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so135992wra for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:11:31 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=BohOQD+Dh6OVSFX0WR4gZLpT4k4UyGwm6nNiStSeFqtESsbJZfrRQF9CbEWES7+AHo1ZqEl6U7AiH45sKJ7dkB3rnJm3uCZwepR2pLOxOxgWVkB6h/E4i11DXYySLSyP6Y/DcwXIheSwwvjfU1vAckmL5tZE3rCUvohCoxBQOWM= Received: by 10.54.11.45 with SMTP id 45mr141148wrk; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:11:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:11:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:11:31 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Joe Altman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041224190530.GA29788@panix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041223224234.01432DD9A@cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com> <86wtv8m1da.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20041224181757.GB11861@panix.com> <20041224190530.GA29788@panix.com> Subject: Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:11:32 -0000 On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:05:30 -0500, Joe Altman wrote: > On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 12:31:37PM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:17:57 -0500, Joe Altman wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 10:31:40AM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote: > > > > > "comm/JT" writes: > > > > > > > > > > > Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some documentation to > > > > > > fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this and > > > > > > seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and outdated > > > > > > document. > > > > > > > > > > > Although this is deprecated. Please use the following rather > > > > than sendmail_enable="NONE": > > > > > > > > sendmail_enable="NO" > > > > sendmail_submit_enable="NO" > > > > sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" > > > > sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" > > > > > > Where do you see this: > > > > > > sendmail_enable="NONE" labelled as deprecated? That doesn't appear to > > > be the case, in the documentation I have accessed. > > > > I 'see this' in man rc.sendmail(8): > > > > sendmail_enable > > (str) If set to ``YES'', run the sendmail(8) daemon at system > > boot time. If set to ``NO'', do not run a sendmail(8) daemon to > > listen for incoming network mail. This does not preclude a > > sendmail(8) daemon listening on the SMTP port of the loopback > > interface. The ``NONE'' option is deprecated and should not be > > used. It will be removed in a future release. > > You mean this man rc.sendmail? > > RC.SENDMAIL(8) FreeBSD System Manager's Manual Yes, man rc.sendmail(8). I guess I'm really not sure what your malfunction is, Joe. What do you not understand about 'deprecated' and 'will be removed in a future release'? BTW, I really don't care to discuss it any further; if you have any additional information for the OP, by all means, give it. Otherwise, have a happy holiday, and drop it. -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 19:11:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A686716A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:11:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from enterprise.thenetnow.com (enterprise.thenetnow.com [65.39.193.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4FF43D2F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:11:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from GRANT (hpeel.ody.ca [216.240.12.2])iBOJBPG98608; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:11:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Message-ID: <000401c4e9ec$5f344030$6401a8c0@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" References: <001f01c4e9e5$fed8cc20$6401a8c0@GRANT> <20041224185330.GA26975@gothmog.gr> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:11:26 -0500 Organization: The Net Now MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS fstab and ipfw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Grant Peel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:11:42 -0000 I may have left out a key piece of info: I am not using a ipfw.rules sh script. I am using Webmin, which loads the ipfw.rules in the rc.local file. I don't know alot about the order of operations as far as the rc files go, but assume the rc.local is of the last ones to run, likely after mounts normally take place. Are there any background or timeout switches that can be used on nfs mounts in the fstab? -Grant ----- Original Message ----- From: "Giorgos Keramidas" To: "Grant Peel" Cc: Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 1:53 PM Subject: Re: NFS fstab and ipfw > On 2004-12-24 13:25, Grant Peel wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I can't boot my machine with out using the noauto switch on my nfs mount, >> presumeably, because ipfw has'nt set up a tule to allow lo0 access. >> >> I have read some things about nfs_mount and wonder if the -i -s switch >> can >> be used in fstab on the nfs mount, or if there exists a switch that can >> be >> used to allow it to try to mount the nfs in the background and allow the >> sytem to continue booting. > > That doesn't sound right. The order of the rc.d scripts is set up to > allow NFS mounts: > > : gothmog:/root# rcorder /etc/rc.d/* | egrep -e 'ipfw|mount' > : /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal > : /etc/rc.d/ipfw > : /etc/rc.d/mountcritremote > : /etc/rc.d/mountd > : gothmog:/root# > > Are you sure you are not blocking NFS mounts in your firewall ruleset? > > - Giorgos > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 19:27:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45BEE16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:27:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out010.verizon.net (out010pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D040543D54 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:27:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reso3w83@verizon.net) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.26.84.7]) by out010.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041224192754.FJKD24714.out010.verizon.net@ringworm.mechee.com> for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:27:54 -0600 Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 96E832CE753; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:25:05 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:25:04 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <41CBB0D6.6080807@att.net> <200412232338.09555.reso3w83@verizon.net> <200412241554.03932.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> In-Reply-To: <200412241554.03932.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412241125.04925.reso3w83@verizon.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out010.verizon.net from [4.26.84.7] at Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:27:54 -0600 Subject: Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:27:56 -0000 On Friday 24 December 2004 07:54 am, RW wrote: > On Friday 24 December 2004 07:38, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:16 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: > > > Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > > > On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: > > > >>I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports > > > >> cvsup. Following the Dru Lavigne article on portupgrade at > > > >>http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html? > > > >>page =1 I installed portupgrade and then ran portsdb -Uu. It > > > >> errored out, telling me that I shouldn't use my "refuse" file > > > >> that stopped the non- english docs and ports from being loaded > > > >> on my HD. > > > >> > > > >>In trying to understand this issue, I found portmanager, and it > > > >> looks like it would perform the same function as portupgrade. > > > >> > > > >>My questions: Is there a way around the "refuse" file > > > >> prohibition, perhaps with portmanager? Does portmanager > > > >> replace portupgrade? > > > > > > > > portmanager doesn't require the INDEX files to keep ports up to > > > > date, so the refuse file is a non issue with it. > > > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > Sounds good. What's the downside, if any, to using portmanager > > > instead of portupgrade? > > > > All of your ports will be built with the correct dependencies, they > > will work better leaving you less to complain about in the mail > > lists and so you will become bored. Because everything is working > > exactly as it should you may begin to think you are a Maytag repair > > man, nothing much to do, just always setting around waiting for > > something to break..... > > I don't use portmanager myself, but isn't it the case that > portmanager rebuilds not just ports that have newer versions in the > ports tree, but also all ports that recursively depend on those > ports. That is indeed the case with portmanager. Sometimes it is a waste of time to rebuild everthing when a dependency changes, and sometimes it is the right thing to do, portmanager assumes it is always the right thing to do. One way this has proved to be a benefit is I've never had to run the special scripts when gnome is updated because after running portmanager everything is already up to date. > > I just updated kdehier with portupgrade in about a minute. The whole > of KDE depends on kdehier, so presumably portmanager would have taken > several days, and kdehier isn't particularly unusual. I would see > that as a major downside. Here is from misc/kdehier/pkg_descr: Utility port which installs a hierarchy of common KDE directories So what if this port changes the location of some KDE directories? If you don't also update KDE then add or update something like kdepim, maybe kdepim will expect files in one place due to kdehier but kdelibs will have them in another because you never rebuilt kdelibs when kdeheir changed locations around. So even if kde takes several days to build, so what, I still use my system no problem for other things while portmanager is running, when its done I'll restart X or reboot to get all the new libraries loaded and press on. In the past year I've never had so much as one kde app crash where when I used portupgrade it was a fairly regular occurrence. While I don't personally use gnome I keep it on my system, and when ever I see everyone complaining that it doesn't work I give it a try, and it always does for me. As far as UPDATING goes, the first entry in it is 20040204, from that point to today the only thing I've had to follow in it is was the change to mpeg4ip 20041111. > > When it's necessary UPDATING will suggest running portupgrade -rf to > force rebuilding. That kind of UPDATING entry is in a small minority, > which suggests to me that most of the problems with ports don't stem > from the sequence of their updating, so I can't see how portmanager > is any kind of magic-bullet. Perhaps you should actually try it instead of just assuming..... -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 19:31:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6CA16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:31:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6F643D39 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:31:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a130.otenet.gr [212.205.215.130]) iBOJViud015802; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:31:45 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBOJVhO2082488; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:31:43 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBOJVgxL082457; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:31:42 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:31:41 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Grant Peel Message-ID: <20041224193141.GA67543@gothmog.gr> References: <001f01c4e9e5$fed8cc20$6401a8c0@GRANT> <20041224185330.GA26975@gothmog.gr> <000401c4e9ec$5f344030$6401a8c0@GRANT> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000401c4e9ec$5f344030$6401a8c0@GRANT> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS fstab and ipfw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:31:49 -0000 Please don't post the reply on top of what you're replying and trim your replies a bit, keeping only what's relevant :-/ On 2004-12-24 14:11, Grant Peel wrote: >Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>On 2004-12-24 13:25, Grant Peel wrote: >>> I can't boot my machine with out using the noauto switch on my nfs >>> mount, presumeably, because ipfw has'nt set up a tule to allow lo0 >>> access. >> >> That doesn't sound right. The order of the rc.d scripts is set up to >> allow NFS mounts: >> >> : gothmog:/root# rcorder /etc/rc.d/* | egrep -e 'ipfw|mount' >> : /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal >> : /etc/rc.d/ipfw >> : /etc/rc.d/mountcritremote >> : /etc/rc.d/mountd >> : gothmog:/root# >> >> Are you sure you are not blocking NFS mounts in your firewall ruleset? > > I may have left out a key piece of info: Indeed. > I am not using a ipfw.rules sh script. I am using Webmin, which loads > the ipfw.rules in the rc.local file. I don't know alot about the order > of operations as far as the rc files go, but assume the rc.local is of > the last ones to run, likely after mounts normally take place. Then it's webmin that's giving you trouble. This is *NOT* a good way to load the firewall rules. The rc.local script runs always after all the other startup scripts have finished. This is too late in the boot sequence to load firewall rules, because network services may have bumped into problems with the default firewall policy already. The carefully crafted set of dependencies that the startup scripts use ensures that this won't happen, but you have to work *with* the system and not against it as webmin does. I think I understand why a web-based interface would find it easier to bypass the canonical way of setting up a firewall ruleset with FreeBSD, but it still sucks a bit. One way to load the ipfw rules at the right moment is to load ipfw from the /etc/rc.conf file: firewall_enable="YES" firewall_quiet="YES" firewall_logging="YES" firewall_type="/etc/ipfw.rules" Then write your rules in /etc/ipfw.rules just as you would pass them to the command line of ipfw(8), i.e.: add pass udp from any to any via fxp0 This will load the firewall rules *before* any attempt to mount NFS shared directories is made, and it will all Just Work(TM). > Are there any background or timeout switches that can be used on nfs > mounts in the fstab? Read the mount_nfs(8) manpage. Pay careful attention to the description of the -b option :-) Note that forking off a background process that will attempt to asynchronously mount a filesystem is NOT good for all the filesystems. It may be useful at times, but it's dangerous to use for filesystems like /usr or /var. If you fork off a mount_nfs process in /etc/rc.d/mountcritremote and let that script finish ``normally'', the rest of the startup scripts will assume that /usr is already mounted and attempt to access files within it. They will, of course, fail miserably and you'll end up with an incomplete or half-working boot. Definitely, not a good idea. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 19:54:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6371F16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:54:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8DDF43D1F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:54:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.13.2/8.13.2/d) with ESMTP id iBOJsSk3005285 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:54:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:54:28 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200412241954.iBOJsSNQ005284@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Dell WLAN 1450 laptop wireless card driver needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:54:44 -0000 I'm looking for a driver that supports the Dell Wireless WLAN 1450 Dual- Band card for laptops. 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John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 20:08:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F6216A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:08:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postbode02.zonnet.nl (postbode02.zonnet.nl [62.58.50.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0961243D2D for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:08:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from f.staals@zonnet.nl) Received: (qmail 2034 invoked by uid 10); 24 Dec 2004 20:08:31 -0000 Received: (vexira-qq 02026-9B3E8F49 invoked from network) 24 Dec 2004 21:08:30 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.2]) ([62.59.173.176]) (envelope-sender ) by postbode02.zonnet.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 24 Dec 2004 20:08:30 -0000 Message-ID: <41CC8543.5060407@zonnet.nl> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:08:19 +0000 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041109) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <41CC5CE6.4020402@zonnet.nl> <20041224183318.GA99768@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20041224183318.GA99768@xor.obsecurity.org> X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira MailArmor (version: 2.0.1.16; VAE: 6.29.0.5; VDF: 6.29.0.34; host: postbode02.zonnet.nl) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: mkfifo: No such file or directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:08:32 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: >On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 06:16:06PM +0000, Frank Staals wrote: > > >>I want to use my printer which is on a windoze computer to use on my >>intire network ( most FreeBSD computers ) so I read this >>http://www.freebsddiary.org/samba.php . As it is explained I did: mkfifo >>/dev/smbprint but I got this : >> >>bash-3.00# cd /dev/ >>bash-3.00# mkfifo smbprint >>mkfifo: smbprint: No such file or directory >>bash-3.00# >> >>Why can't I make an extra fifo ? >> >> > >You forgot to mention what version of FreeBSD you're running; if it's >5.x, you can't create random files in /dev because it's not a >general-purpose filesystem (i.e. the documentation you're reading is >out of date). > >Kris > > I am running 5.3 Stable, how can I configure FreeBSD that I can use the printer on the windows pc Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 20:22:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B05B16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:22:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194AE43D49 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:22:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so139274wra for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:22:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=f8XdYNv9hTvkxnFtLmxxTE3zBOsBHG2lfQ07auxBw63cRHbk6257ZN1aJVhWWUNY6WUzxRclqJH0n4NIzm+f3j94jiNzHHyhaU4xIYm79/HSIj62ZVjXUHoo3cMBi+boHTjzaKV3UFHiA86AonDMJJdIWP1bzTuCRqKphg9FRaU= Received: by 10.54.53.24 with SMTP id b24mr127821wra; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:22:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.33 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:22:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:22:19 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Frank Staals In-Reply-To: <41CC8543.5060407@zonnet.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41CC5CE6.4020402@zonnet.nl> <20041224183318.GA99768@xor.obsecurity.org> <41CC8543.5060407@zonnet.nl> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mkfifo: No such file or directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:22:20 -0000 On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:08:19 +0000, Frank Staals wrote: > I am running 5.3 Stable, how can I configure FreeBSD that I can use the > printer on the windows pc Please read the official documentation: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/printing.html -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 20:28:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACD616A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:28:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (creme-brulee.marcuscom.com [24.172.16.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB3243D1F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:28:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from shumai.marcuscom.com (shumai.marcuscom.com [192.168.1.4]) iBOKSG3C065190; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:28:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Karl Agee In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-IXi5Lg91ucXPtoJJz6IK" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:27:23 -0500 Message-Id: <1103920043.13684.24.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port cc: FreeBSD User Questions List Subject: Re: gnome-cd: connecting to cddb server as user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:28:02 -0000 --=-IXi5Lg91ucXPtoJJz6IK Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 11:02 -0800, Karl Agee wrote: > Freebsd 4.11-pre, gnome-lite 2.8.1. >=20 > using gnome-cd to listen to cd's in my user acct, but it wont connect to = the=20 > cddb server to pull down cd info. It does when I do it as root, however. >=20 > The only error I see is this: >=20 > ** (gnome-cd:671): WARNING **: could not contact cddb server >=20 > how to fix???? What messages are printed to stdout/stderr when this happens? Make sure that ~/.cddb* are all owned by you. If things are still failing, get a binary sniffer trace of the CDDB conversation. Joe >=20 > --Karl >=20 > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE= !=20 > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-IXi5Lg91ucXPtoJJz6IK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBzHurb2iPiv4Uz4cRAgkoAKCFlYbHTy6XqIpSR4cETbtIWCN3kQCeItxa TJLfNWJr3eVWzJ8UIWBFsgc= =D3Oz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-IXi5Lg91ucXPtoJJz6IK-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 20:46:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE1BC16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:46:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF5343D55 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:46:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leonmk@optonline.net) Received: from D1TWQX41 (ool-18b93da2.dyn.optonline.net [24.185.61.162]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <0I98003G1V211W@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:46:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:46:48 -0500 From: Leon To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <002401c4e9f9$b0863350$a23db918@D1TWQX41> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Text Filter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:46:51 -0000 Hi, Where can I get advanced "Text Filter" for printer "Dell AIO A960" . Thanks, Leon. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 21:07:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F154416A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:07:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22DE43D49 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:07:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leonmk@optonline.net) Received: from D1TWQX41 (ool-18b93da2.dyn.optonline.net [24.185.61.162]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <0I98004HXW172J@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:07:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:07:54 -0500 From: Leon To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <002d01c4e9fc$a2cfe320$a23db918@D1TWQX41> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:07:59 -0000 Hi, I have tried to configure printer by "KDE". When I start to print it gave me an error: The rlpr executable could not be found in you path. Check your installation. What should I do? What should I install? Where I can find this file? Thanks, Leon. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 21:10:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC7816A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:10:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from luzifer.incubus.de (incubus.de [80.237.207.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078E343D2D for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:10:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@mukappabeta.de) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (pD9E68DB4.dip.t-dialin.net [217.230.141.180]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by luzifer.incubus.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83252E018 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:08:25 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41CC85BC.8030305@mukappabeta.de> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:10:20 +0100 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> <20041220120620.GA68520@duplo.dahoam> <20041220133252.GB7774@lb.tenfour> <20041220145227.GA24495@ei.bzerk.org> <20041221000020.GS84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20041221000020.GS84787@wantadilla.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:10:23 -0000 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > This is a particularly tenacious rumour. I've been using bash as my > root shell on many different UNIX platforms for nearly 14 years, and > I've never had any problems. I've also never seen any substantiated > problems reported anywhere. Besides, when your favourite shell is hosed, you most likely cannot log in anyways, since usually root login is disabled for sshd. And then it's about the only case when it's getting tough.. when it's a machine that's hosted somewhere in a rack at a hosing provider, probably one of the most common situations today in business environments. When one has physical access to the machine, it's a non-issue. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 21:14:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F3E16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:14:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37EE43D4C for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:14:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from taosecurity@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so65842rnf for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:14:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kDF6MJM4T3JpYXZPmclPry5075HEqJ9LLPRWnysU04TAwH+dJ04JngGnV0Xovw+ImoA/5lZfwl2FQGCEhyv7gdeVqNO9dnOEig+zXlTxxwdXZzX8cLLVe7nX94JyL2cODjliygaqoIR37Spw2UBbVnynM5ztOsDq3HzTQRUz/Ac= Received: by 10.38.104.64 with SMTP id b64mr143439rnc; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:14:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.209.12 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:14:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <120ef053041224131444856476@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:14:16 -0500 From: Richard Bejtlich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Answers: Keeping FreeBSD Applications Up-To-Date X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Richard Bejtlich List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:14:18 -0000 Three weeks ago I posted notification of my article Keeping FreeBSD Up-To-Date. Today I am happy to announce the publication at TaoSecurity.com of Keeping FreeBSD Applications Up-To-Date: http://www.taosecurity.com/keeping_freebsd_applications_up-to-date.html The new article takes the same case-based approach I used in the first paper. The article's sections include: - Introduction - Installation Using Source Code - Installation Using the FreeBSD Ports Tree - Installation Using Precompiled Packages - Updating Applications Installed from Source Code - Updating Packages by Deletion and Addition - Updating the Ports Tree, Part 1 - Manually Updating a Package Using the Ports Tree - Updating Packages with Portupgrade, Part 1 - Updating Packages with Portupgrade, Part 2 - Updating the Ports Tree, Part 2 - My Common Package Update Process - Creating Packages on One System and Installing Them Elsewhere - Addressing Security Issues in Packages - Conclusion - Acknowledgements - References Sections show commands to run, explanations of what they do, sample output, applications versions, and pros and cons of each upgrade method. Please send feedback to taosecurity at gmail dot com. Thank you, Richard Bejtlich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 21:35:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E392A16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:35:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6179B43D31 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:35:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hpxchan@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so210384wri for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:35:05 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=k6LBydqtxGIweg1rsnS3Vf9syB28WStd3gUN/PQXloYspiiUTgpoyBcv/afRJJ7ur5ZNyZoLrWVC3cTtD3TUwFwhOH3ImelRAeVmYKMxuHotC3NbgAc16062HyQbH8ujdcSfOH3wEPa8Udtjj2WMWwArex9keDpeJJFY7gxFw04= Received: by 10.54.36.48 with SMTP id j48mr59444wrj; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:35:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.26.29 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:35:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f77d33304122413355e1a158b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:35:05 -0600 From: Chandler May To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20041223222819.GA77862@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <6f77d33304122312203ecd1c49@mail.gmail.com> <20041223222819.GA77862@xor.obsecurity.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: checksum mismatch on hicolor-icon-theme-0.5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chandler May List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:35:07 -0000 I had downloaded the latest version (hicolor-icon-themes-0.5.tar.gz), and it was even the exact same size as the file that Ports was requesting, so I didn't think that redownloading it would do any good. Well, out of desperation, I did (delete the current file and download a new one), and that fixed everything. I don't know why or how, but it did. Thanks for your help! Chandler On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:28:19 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 12:20:26PM -0800, Chandler May wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've been unable to compile a very large number of programs because of > > a checksum mismatch on hicolor-icon-theme-0.5.tar.gz. > > If you already have a local copy of this file, you may need to remove > it and re-fetch an updated copy. Use 'make distclean' from the port > directory to remove all distfiles for the port so you can re-fetch > them. > > > Ports refuses to > > connect to any FTP or HTTP servers for the download, > > Verify that your ports collection is complete and up-to-date. This > kind of problem is usually fixed very quickly. > > > and will not > > recognize the file when I download it manually and put it in > > distfiles. > > Are you sure you're putting it in the right directory? Compare > carefully to the error message. > > Kris > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 21:47:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8046916A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:47:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170D343D31 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:47:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fj@panix.com) Received: from panix5.panix.com (panix5.panix.com [166.84.1.5]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14540981B5 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:47:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fj@localhost) by panix5.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id iBOLlb417219 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:47:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:47:37 -0500 From: Joe Altman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041224214736.GA14584@panix.com> Mail-Followup-To: Joe Altman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041223224234.01432DD9A@cmlapp400.van.ca.siteprotect.com> <86wtv8m1da.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20041224181757.GB11861@panix.com> <20041224190530.GA29788@panix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: FAQ: What constitutes an inappropriate posting? Was: Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:47:38 -0000 On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 01:11:31PM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote: > > I guess I'm really not sure what your > malfunction is, Joe. What do you not understand about > 'deprecated' and 'will be removed in a future release'? BTW, I > really don't care to discuss it any further; if you have any > additional information for the OP, by all means, give it. > Otherwise, have a happy holiday, and drop it. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/mailing-list-faq/article.html#ETIQUETTE 2 Mailing List Etiquette 2.2. What constitutes an inappropriate posting? Personal attacks are discouraged. As good net.citizens, we should try to hold ourselves to high standards of behavior. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 21:54:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2A316A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:54:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34EF43D2D for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:54:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jayobrien@worldnet.att.net) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (dsl093-180-184.sac1.dsl.speakeasy.net[66.93.180.184]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with ESMTP id <20041224215405113005pck5e> (Authid: jayobrien@att.net); Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:54:06 +0000 Message-ID: <41CC8FFC.2030009@att.net> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:54:04 -0800 From: Jay O'Brien User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD - questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: portupgrade time, xorg ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:54:07 -0000 Running FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p2 #0, i386 P3-667MHz, 512MB RAM. This is my first experience using portupgrade. I ran cvsup successfully for ports-all. I ran pkg_version -v. It showed a total of 28 ports, 20 needed updating. Of those, 16 were xorg- ports; the others were xterm, freetype2, imake and png. I ran portupgrade -a -N -vu -rR, and it tried several times to fetch X11R6.8.1-src1.tar.gz, each time taking over an hour, and when the file failed, it failed showing a checksum mismatch. I tried it again today, and it was able to fetch the three remaining files. SLOW. I have a DSL connection, and usually see 1.5MB speeds or more. Two of the files came in at 6kBps, one at 26 kBps. This Portupgrade session, including downloading the files detailed below, took 3 hours and 38 minutes; 1.5 hours was spent just downloading the three files. >From the script file of the session: => X11R6.8.1-src(#).tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/xorg. => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R6.8.1/tars/ files fetched and time for download: file size end speed time X11R6.8.1-src1.tar.gz 29MB 6510 Bps 80 min X11R6.8.1-src6.tar.gz 3106kB 6298 Bps 8 min X11R6.8.1-src2.tar.gz 5672kB 26 kBps 4 min I have two questions: -Is this typical to see such slow download speeds and for the portupgrade process to take so much time? -I didn't install xorg. Why are the 16 xorg ports present? Jay O'Brien Rio Linda, California USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 21:59:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D85816A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:59:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net (post-24.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CFF43D1D for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:59:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([82.161.136.218]:9847 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ChxSd-000GGy-Rs for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:58:59 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39EA1A9A7 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:57:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.111] (82-197-198-30.dsl.cambrium.nl [82.197.198.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4EB437175 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:59:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41CC9120.6070105@scii.nl> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:58:56 +0100 From: albi User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041209) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <41CC8FFC.2030009@att.net> In-Reply-To: <41CC8FFC.2030009@att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: portupgrade time, xorg ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:59:03 -0000 Jay O'Brien wrote: hi, > Running FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p2 #0, i386 P3-667MHz, 512MB RAM. ----- cut for brevity -------- > -I didn't install xorg. Why are the 16 xorg ports present? a fresh FreeBSD 5.3 has xorg by default instead of XFree86 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 22:00:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FF616A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:00:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (wcborstel.demon.nl [82.161.134.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F8A43D4C for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:00:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jorn@wcborstel.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9C841A6; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:00:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.wcborstel.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 65807-01; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:00:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7B94237; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:00:25 +0100 (CET) From: "Jorn Argelo" To: Richard Bejtlich , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:00:25 +0100 Message-Id: <20041224215342.M77401@wcborstel.nl> In-Reply-To: <120ef053041224131444856476@mail.gmail.com> References: <120ef053041224131444856476@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 82.161.134.53 (jorn) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.wcborstel.nl Subject: Re: Answers: Keeping FreeBSD Applications Up-To-Date X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:00:03 -0000 On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:14:16 -0500, Richard Bejtlich wrote > Three weeks ago I posted notification of my article Keeping FreeBSD > Up-To-Date. Today I am happy to announce the publication at > TaoSecurity.com of Keeping FreeBSD Applications Up-To-Date: > > http://www.taosecurity.com/keeping_freebsd_applications_up-to-date.html > > The new article takes the same case-based approach I used in the > first paper. The article's sections include: > > - Introduction > - Installation Using Source Code > - Installation Using the FreeBSD Ports Tree > - Installation Using Precompiled Packages > - Updating Applications Installed from Source Code > - Updating Packages by Deletion and Addition > - Updating the Ports Tree, Part 1 > - Manually Updating a Package Using the Ports Tree > - Updating Packages with Portupgrade, Part 1 > - Updating Packages with Portupgrade, Part 2 > - Updating the Ports Tree, Part 2 > - My Common Package Update Process > - Creating Packages on One System and Installing Them Elsewhere > - Addressing Security Issues in Packages > - Conclusion > - Acknowledgements > - References > > Sections show commands to run, explanations of what they do, sample > output, applications versions, and pros and cons of each upgrade > method. Please send feedback to taosecurity at gmail dot com. > > Thank you, > > Richard Bejtlich Hi Richard, It looks good. It's nice to have a piece of documentation regarding this subject all on one page. However, you should be aware that most information, if not all, can be found in the handbook as well. I truely praise the handbook, but it's size can be rather annoying when to find something. It has an online search function, of course, but for offline use it can be a little maze from time to time. So I like things like this. It has similair quality of the handbook but all subjects in one page. Great. However, it would be nice if you actually wrapped the text to make it readable. Preferably based on resolution if possible. And it requires some cosmetic attention as well. Type commands in differen colours, for example. Make important notes larger, use a different colour again, or give them a special font. Also, it would be nice if you went a little bit deeper into the commands. For example, you use portugrade -varR. Elaborate what they do. At least, I would like to know it if I was the newbie reading it. Other then that, it looks fine. I didn't read everything though, but from what I've seen it looks nice. Cheers, Jorn. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 22:03:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C6316A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:03:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from S1.cableone.net (smtp1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675F543D53 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:03:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net (unverified [24.119.123.89]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 5321295 for multiple; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:04:05 -0700 Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:02:15 -0600 From: Vulpes Velox To: Chris Message-ID: <20041224160215.01fc8ce0@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> In-Reply-To: <41CB7AB8.10009@makeworld.com> References: <41CB7AB8.10009@makeworld.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 16, in=24, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.123.89 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net cc: FreeBSD - Questions Subject: Re: Supported CDRW listing for 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:03:14 -0000 On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:11:04 -0600 Chris wrote: > I'm going to be in the market for a new CDRW soon - I thought there > was a list of supported devices. There certainly isnt a mention in > the 5.3 Hardware Notes. Nearly any CDRW drive should work. My only suggestions is to advoid liteon. I've seen many problems with liteon drives having problems spining up to speed. I have a DVD+CDRW combo that works nicely. It will flake occasionally if hw.ata.atapi_dma=1. Forget what type and dmesg just shows it as CDRW , but it is nice. I also have a nice Toshiba DVDR drive. In dmesg it shows up as DVDR . It great. Not had any problem with it what so ever. I would really suggest in looking into a drive like this. More room, fast, and pretty cheap now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 22:06:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819B216A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:06:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web41603.mail.yahoo.com (web41603.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 50EE343D45 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:06:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter_mcmahan@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 34330 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Dec 2004 22:06:09 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=G9++XfMn6iMXGZUcxaM61fPngsJPRqEONKj3yI76rQCLtMSBj6IvZ8iJXitIycsgcI0Vj7CPBNTP7n2ZCXlvBUiZBd1f3eI66pUTsiADa/QttiFhsRf+BiFuCWL0hL7WOJl00DkLuWAnF1EoY4Y71o6/ZJFZJ4KTfv8oGALHuI4= ; Message-ID: <20041224220609.34328.qmail@web41603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.102.204.166] by web41603.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:06:09 PST Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:06:09 -0800 (PST) From: Peter McMahan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: KDM problems on fresh install of 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:06:09 -0000 Hi, I just installed FreeBSD 5.3 on a Dell Latitude, and installation went without a hitch. While trying to configure KDM for graphical login, though, I ran into some problems. startx works fine as both root and as a regular user. However, when I run KDM and enter my username and password all that loads is another instance of KDM. This is very frustrating. The same issue occurs when I try XDM, so I think the problem is with BSD and not KDE. I've searched around for a solution to this, and though I've seen that a lot of other people have had the same problem, I have not found any help solving it. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 22:06:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B552216A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:06:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6FA43D1D for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:06:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.101] (utdvpn084050.utdallas.edu [129.110.84.50]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7487738933A; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:06:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:06:24 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Andy Firman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <2147483647.1103904384@[192.168.2.101]> In-Reply-To: <20041224155358.GB15993@akroteq.com> References: <41C6EE24.4080606@vilot.com> <200412202154.iBKLsrt13676@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <20041224155358.GB15993@akroteq.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:06:27 -0000 --On Friday, December 24, 2004 6:53 AM -0900 Andy Firman wrote: > > So for those of us that want to go back to the way things should be, > (leaving root shell be /bin/sh) I fire up vipw and change this: > > root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/usr/local/bin/bash > > to this: > > root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/sh > > Right? > Correct. > Then I keep using sudo all the time. But if I need to do some big > work as root, I can su to root and get bash simply by typing: > > /usr/local/bin/bash > > Right? > Correct. However, there's one more thing you need to know. When you use su, if you type "% su", you become root, but you are using *your* path. If you want to use root's path, type "%su -". That makes you root *with* root's path, and makes things much easier for you. Then just type "% bash" at the prompt, and you are using bash as your shell. The only "gotcha" (if you want to call it that) is that you have to type "% exit" twice to stop being root - once to get out of bash, and the second time to exit your su - session. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 22:12:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B1116A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:12:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF4F43D55 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:12:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4A88851194; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:12:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:12:49 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Jay O'Brien Message-ID: <20041224221249.GA59227@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41CC8FFC.2030009@att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41CC8FFC.2030009@att.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD - questions Subject: Re: portupgrade time, xorg ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:12:46 -0000 --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 01:54:04PM -0800, Jay O'Brien wrote: > I ran portupgrade -a -N -vu -rR, and it tried several times=20 > to fetch X11R6.8.1-src1.tar.gz, each time taking over an hour,=20 > and when the file failed, it failed showing a checksum mismatch.=20 > I tried it again today, and it was able to fetch the three=20 > remaining files. SLOW. I have a DSL connection, and usually=20 > see 1.5MB speeds or more. Two of the files came in at 6kBps,=20 > one at 26 kBps. This Portupgrade session, including downloading=20 > the files detailed below, took 3 hours and 38 minutes; 1.5 hours=20 > was spent just downloading the three files. >=20 > >From the script file of the session: > =3D> X11R6.8.1-src(#).tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in=20 > /usr/ports/distfiles/xorg. > =3D> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R6.8.1/tars/ >=20 > files fetched and time for download: > file size end speed time=20 > X11R6.8.1-src1.tar.gz 29MB 6510 Bps 80 min > X11R6.8.1-src6.tar.gz 3106kB 6298 Bps 8 min > X11R6.8.1-src2.tar.gz 5672kB 26 kBps 4 min >=20 > I have two questions: >=20 > -Is this typical to see such slow download speeds Sometimes; it's not unusual for a popular ftp site to be heavily loaded. There are various variables you can set to control fetching from different sites; see the ports(7) manpage and the comments in bsd.port.mk. > and for the=20 > portupgrade process to take so much time?=20 X is a large set of applications, so it's going to take a little while to compile it all :-) > -I didn't install xorg. Why are the 16 xorg ports present? I don't understand what you're asking here. Kris --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBzJRgWry0BWjoQKURApWGAKDW6v1GJf8Sv/uk6CbKzkrDnhaFZQCgx/hv 2v7r9TG1Vjy9N+HT7VBvfUk= =2vBF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 22:13:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CECD16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:13:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2677243D53 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:13:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B0C59511CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:13:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:13:33 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Frank Staals Message-ID: <20041224221333.GB59227@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41CC5CE6.4020402@zonnet.nl> <20041224183318.GA99768@xor.obsecurity.org> <41CC8543.5060407@zonnet.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="V0207lvV8h4k8FAm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41CC8543.5060407@zonnet.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mkfifo: No such file or directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:13:30 -0000 --V0207lvV8h4k8FAm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 09:08:19PM +0000, Frank Staals wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 > >On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 06:16:06PM +0000, Frank Staals wrote: > >=20 > > > >>I want to use my printer which is on a windoze computer to use on my=20 > >>intire network ( most FreeBSD computers ) so I read this=20 > >>http://www.freebsddiary.org/samba.php . As it is explained I did: mkfif= o=20 > >>/dev/smbprint but I got this : > >> > >>bash-3.00# cd /dev/ > >>bash-3.00# mkfifo smbprint > >>mkfifo: smbprint: No such file or directory > >>bash-3.00# > >> > >>Why can't I make an extra fifo ? > >> =20 > >> > > > >You forgot to mention what version of FreeBSD you're running; if it's > >5.x, you can't create random files in /dev because it's not a > >general-purpose filesystem (i.e. the documentation you're reading is > >out of date). > > > >Kris > >=20 > > > I am running 5.3 Stable, how can I configure FreeBSD that I can use the= =20 > printer on the windows pc I don't know, you should try to read the samba documentation or ask for help in a samba forum. Kris --V0207lvV8h4k8FAm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBzJSNWry0BWjoQKURAjeRAKCcFEiBbhu4Q5Q3FSmwRKaYtCyCAQCdGn7t zwVR3OY/PerlMDKuG70I8Lw= =rQP0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --V0207lvV8h4k8FAm-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 22:15:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BA916A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:15:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DE643D3F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:15:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.101] (utdvpn084050.utdallas.edu [129.110.84.50]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195AE38933A; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:15:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:14:59 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Richard Bejtlich , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <2147483647.1103904899@[192.168.2.101]> In-Reply-To: <120ef053041224131444856476@mail.gmail.com> References: <120ef053041224131444856476@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Answers: Keeping FreeBSD Applications Up-To-Date X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:15:02 -0000 --On Friday, December 24, 2004 4:14 PM -0500 Richard Bejtlich wrote: > Three weeks ago I posted notification of my article Keeping FreeBSD > Up-To-Date. Today I am happy to announce the publication at > TaoSecurity.com of Keeping FreeBSD Applications Up-To-Date: > > http://www.taosecurity.com/keeping_freebsd_applications_up-to-date.html > Richard, I'd like to thank you for all the work you do on behalf of the community creating documentation for FreeBSD users. I greatly appreciate it. I'd also like to thank Matthew Seaman, Joshua Lokken, and all the other regulars who contribute so much, selflessly, to help those of us who are still apprentices. You may not hear it often, but the work you do, without any compensation other than thanks like this, is greatly appreciated. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 22:22:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEF816A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:22:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927B243D31 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:22:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.101] (utdvpn084050.utdallas.edu [129.110.84.50]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6F9388C6A; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:22:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:22:12 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Scott Bennett , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <2147483647.1103905332@[192.168.2.101]> In-Reply-To: <200412230949.iBN9ngPt026975@mp.cs.niu.edu> References: <200412230949.iBN9ngPt026975@mp.cs.niu.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: ifconfig for WLAN using WEP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:22:15 -0000 --On Thursday, December 23, 2004 3:49 AM -0600 Scott Bennett wrote: > > As it turns out, this was the right question to ask, for which I > thank Paul. > Glad I was able to help. > > I interpret the above as meaning that the "Broadband" interface is the > dial-up interface, the "Local Area" interface is the real Ethernet > interface (not connected physically), the 1394 interface is the infrared > port as Ethernet- over-FireWire (fwe0), and the Dell 1450 card is indeed > the wireless interface. Looking through the boot messages from > FreeBSD 5.2.1, I don't see anything that looks like the Dell wireless > card being detected. I've looked through all the man pages for the > various interface types and haven't seen anything that looks appropriate. > If anyone reading this can suggest what to do next, please do. > What happens when you type "% ifconfig wi0 up" and then type "% ifconfig"? Do you see the interface? Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 22:25:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5864716A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:25:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337DF43D1F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:25:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.101] (utdvpn084050.utdallas.edu [129.110.84.50]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5148388C6A; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:25:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:25:25 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Scott Bennett , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <2147483647.1103905525@[192.168.2.101]> In-Reply-To: <200412241954.iBOJsSNQ005284@mp.cs.niu.edu> References: <200412241954.iBOJsSNQ005284@mp.cs.niu.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Dell WLAN 1450 laptop wireless card driver needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:25:28 -0000 --On Friday, December 24, 2004 1:54 PM -0600 Scott Bennett wrote: > I'm looking for a driver that supports the Dell Wireless WLAN 1450 > Dual- Band card for laptops. If anyone can point me in the right > direction, please let me know. It's probably the wi driver, which should be in the default build of "modern" FreeBSD. Look at man wi(4) and man wicontrol(8). What do you see when you type "% wicontrol -i wi0 -o"? Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 22:28:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7693816A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:28:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from S3.cableone.net (smtp3.cableone.net [24.116.0.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1199243D31 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:28:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net (unverified [24.119.123.89]) by S3.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S3) with ESMTP id 5317810 for multiple; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:40:47 -0700 Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:27:10 -0600 From: Vulpes Velox To: Leon Message-ID: <20041224162710.5a2e43a1@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> In-Reply-To: <002401c4e9f9$b0863350$a23db918@D1TWQX41> References: <002401c4e9f9$b0863350$a23db918@D1TWQX41> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 1, First 23, in=42, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.123.89 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Text Filter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:28:09 -0000 On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:46:48 -0500 Leon wrote: > Hi, > > Where can I get advanced "Text Filter" for printer "Dell AIO A960" Check out the apsfilter port. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 22:36:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E4216A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:36:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9D443D58 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:36:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leonmk@optonline.net) Received: from D1TWQX41 (ool-18b93da2.dyn.optonline.net [24.185.61.162]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <0I990022F04UIJ@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:36:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:36:29 -0500 From: Leon To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <000e01c4ea09$02df9970$a23db918@D1TWQX41> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: CUPS server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:36:31 -0000 Hi, How can I check if SUPS server is running? If it is not running , how can I Install it, and configure? Thanks, Leon. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 22:47:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD6516A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:47:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.des.no (flood.des.no [217.116.83.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF39D43D41; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:47:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: by smtp.des.no (Pony Express, from userid 666) id 9EB6D530C; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:47:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from dwp.des.no (des.no [80.203.228.37]) by smtp.des.no (Pony Express) with ESMTP id AEDF75308; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:46:20 +0100 (CET) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 40557B874; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:46:20 +0100 (CET) To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> <20041224142246.GB779@gothmog.gr> From: des@des.no (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:46:19 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20041224142246.GB779@gothmog.gr> (Giorgos Keramidas's message of "Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:22:46 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on flood.des.no X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: Nikolas Britton cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:47:04 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas writes: > On 2004-12-23 23:02, Chris wrote: > > Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site > > > with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of > > > Cascading Style Sheets?) > > CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a Windows thing? > Actually, no. Nikolas is right here. The sans serif fonts look much > better and are more readable on the monitor. Times looks better on > paper. Times New Roman was designed for a single purpose: to remain readable even when smudged or printed on low-quality paper. It does not really look good on any medium, but it's less bad than most other fonts on newsprint. Responding to Chris: CSS is neither outdated nor a Windows thing. You apparently need to get an extra clue or two before you rejoin this discussion. Responding to Nikolas: Arial and Verdana are Windows fonts which is not necessarily installed on www.freebsd.org's readers' machines (though it is available in ports). Conversely, Helvetica is generally not available in Windows. CSS defines 'sans-serif' as a generic alias for whichever sans-serif font looks best on each particular platform (it maps to Arial in Windows, and Helvetica or similar in X); likewise, it defines 'serif' as a generic alias for serif fonts (it maps to Times New Roman in Windows, and a variety of Roman fonts in X depending on the browser and on what fonts are available). DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 22:52:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D6016A4CF for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:52:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886EC43D58 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:52:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leonmk@optonline.net) Received: from D1TWQX41 (ool-18b93da2.dyn.optonline.net [24.185.61.162]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <0I9900LZ70VILF@mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:52:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:52:29 -0500 From: Leon To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <000601c4ea0b$3f353d10$a23db918@D1TWQX41> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: tarball X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:52:32 -0000 Hi, What is the "tarball"? How can I extract it? Where I can extract it from? Thanks, Leon. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 22:52:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6046E16A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:52:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0026143D3F; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:52:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E8A60ED; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:52:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 53695-07; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:52:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA2A60E4; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:52:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41CC9DE0.6010500@makeworld.com> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:53:20 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041218) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> <20041224142246.GB779@gothmog.gr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.0 (20041102) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: Giorgos Keramidas cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: Nikolas Britton cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:52:45 -0000 Dag-Erling Smrgrav wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas writes: > >>On 2004-12-23 23:02, Chris wrote: >> >>>Nikolas Britton wrote: >>> >>>>2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site >>>>with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of >>>>Cascading Style Sheets?) >>> >>>CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a Windows thing? > Responding to Chris: CSS is neither outdated nor a Windows thing. You > apparently need to get an extra clue or two before you rejoin this > discussion. Not really - Some years back MS made a big issue about CSS. It was then that I lost interest in web devel. Besides - web devel isn't my bag, so I really don't think that I need to have or get a clue. One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to drive the car. -- Best regards, Chris You can't expect to hit the jackpot if you don't put a few nickles in the machine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 23:04:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED3416A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:04:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail3.sa.chariot.net.au (mail3.sa.chariot.net.au [203.87.94.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340A243D39 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:04:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imoore@picknowl.com.au) Received: from jupiter.picknowl.com.au (jupiter.picknowl.com.au [203.87.94.38]) by mail3.sa.chariot.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4272AA6862; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:34:38 +1030 (CST) Received: from daemon.foo.com (adsl-176-70.swiftdsl.com.au [218.214.176.70]) by jupiter.picknowl.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207099685A; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:34:38 +1030 (CST) From: Ian Moore To: David Vincelli Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:34:30 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <7227803f041223222861547e39@mail.gmail.com> <200412241722.28723.imoore@picknowl.com.au> <7227803f04122407557bba1f84@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7227803f04122407557bba1f84@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1218029.yBDHsDQ8C7"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200412250934.36762.imoore@picknowl.com.au> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pioneer DVR-108 can burn DVDs, can't mount them! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:04:40 -0000 --nextPart1218029.yBDHsDQ8C7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 02:25, David Vincelli wrote: > On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:22:16 +1030, Ian Moore =20 wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:58, David Vincelli wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm using FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE with a custom kernel I just compiled a > > > few days ago to have the atapicam device (the only difference with the > > > stock kernel). I added hw.ata.atapi_dma=3D"1" to /boot/loader.conf, a= nd > > > indeed the device is accessed in UltraDMA mode 2. My DVD burner is a > > > Pioneer DVR-108 with the latest firmware at this time (1.18). I can > > > burn DVDs using growisofs but I get a vague input/output error when I > > > try to mount them. (mount failed: input/output error, if I recall > > > correctly). The command I use to mount is: mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0 > > > /mnt. It seems I cannot mount DVDs at all, even originals. I was > > > wondering if the drive was defective so I tried it under a windows > > > environment and it could read the DVDs fine, even the ones I created > > > under FreeBSD. I'd give you a full listing of the full error that > > > would swamp the (real) console when I tried to mount the DVDs but I > > > don't have access to the box right now. It was a scsi error. asq 8,3 > > > is one of them from what I remember :) > > > > > > Has anyone seen this before? > > > > Hi Vince, > > I bought the same DVD drive a few weeks ago & it works just fine on my > > 5.3-RELEASE system. I can watch DVDs, mount a DVD-ROM & I've burnt a > > DVD-RW successfully. There's nothing special in my kernel except ATAPIC= AM > > support. I mount it as a SCSI device, so maybe it's worth trying that on > > your system? > > > Hi Ian, > > What do you mean by when you say you "mount them as a SCSI device". > Which device is that? > It's /dev/cdx (or cd1 if it's the second cd drive). You need to have=20 device ATAPI_CAM device scbus device cd in your kernel in order to do this. That will allow the gui cd burning apps= =20 like k3b & cdbakeoven to burn cds using cdrecord, though you can still use= =20 burncd if you prefer. Cheers, =2D-=20 Ian Moore GPG Key: http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/imoore/imoore.asc --nextPart1218029.yBDHsDQ8C7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBzKCEfITqkXhImmIRAq7gAJ0ZgNqwQAxudzopdAeqUVmMWNZZ0ACfbe/r qrHgZQk9AvS3sYoI764/n04= =v3nT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1218029.yBDHsDQ8C7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 23:07:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C50716A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:07:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6511B43D48 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:07:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77A2BD5FB; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:07:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.0.7]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB43418A91; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:07:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 29307-03; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:07:27 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.0.7 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.0.7; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.0.7]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5503E18A58; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:07:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41CCA12C.4020603@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:07:24 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leon References: <000e01c4ea09$02df9970$a23db918@D1TWQX41> In-Reply-To: <000e01c4ea09$02df9970$a23db918@D1TWQX41> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Comment-1: GNU's Not Unix! X-Comment-2: Support FSF! X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: CUPS server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:07:31 -0000 Leon schrieb: > Hi, > How can I check if SUPS server is running? root@abyssone# ps ax | grep cups 696 ?? Ss 0:03.87 /usr/local/sbin/cupsd ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > If it is not running , how can I Install it, and configure? cd /usr/ports/print/cups && make install clean > Thanks, > Leon. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > !DSPAM:41cc9a1d244924116313389! > > -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l haischt@daniel.stefan.haischt.name From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 23:09:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319FF16A4D0; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:09:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.des.no (flood.des.no [217.116.83.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3BD43D46; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:09:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: by smtp.des.no (Pony Express, from userid 666) id C59B5530C; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:09:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from dwp.des.no (des.no [80.203.228.37]) by smtp.des.no (Pony Express) with ESMTP id 97A485308; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:08:45 +0100 (CET) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 08838B874; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:08:44 +0100 (CET) To: Chris References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> <20041224142246.GB779@gothmog.gr> <41CC9DE0.6010500@makeworld.com> From: des@des.no (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:08:44 +0100 In-Reply-To: <41CC9DE0.6010500@makeworld.com> (racerx@makeworld.com's message of "Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:53:20 -0600") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on flood.des.no X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: Giorgos Keramidas cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: Nikolas Britton cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:09:18 -0000 Chris writes: > Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > > Responding to Chris: CSS is neither outdated nor a Windows thing. You > > apparently need to get an extra clue or two before you rejoin this > > discussion. > Not really - Some years back MS made a big issue about CSS. It was > then that I lost interest in web devel. Besides - web devel isn't my > bag, so I really don't think that I need to have or get a clue. CSS is a W3 standard, but was originally designed by the CTO of Opera Software, a company which is one of Microsoft's more vocal detractors and which recently received a large settlement in a lawsuit regarding Microsoft's (alleged) intentional efforts to make their website render poorly in Opera's browser. IE handles CSS1 badly, and CSS2 almost not at all. Calling it a Windows thing severely misrepresents the facts. > One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to > drive the car. One should not criticize the design of an engine while vehemently claiming to have no interest in how enginges are built. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 23:10:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3450C16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:10:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFDF343D2D for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:10:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2748BD60E; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:10:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.0.7]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1A018A96; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:10:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 29307-04; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:10:39 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.0.7 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.0.7; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.0.7]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6819D18A95; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:10:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41CCA1EB.7010005@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:10:35 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leon References: <000601c4ea0b$3f353d10$a23db918@D1TWQX41> In-Reply-To: <000601c4ea0b$3f353d10$a23db918@D1TWQX41> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Comment-1: GNU's Not Unix! X-Comment-2: Support FSF! X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: tarball X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:10:42 -0000 Leon schrieb: > Hi, > > What is the "tarball"? for example that's a tarball: /usr/ports/distfiles/samba-3.0.9.tar.gz actually it is 'gzipped' to shrink its size. > How can I extract it? a standard tarball: > tar xpvf my-tarball.tar a gzipped tarball: > tar xpvfz my-tarball.tar.gz a bzipped tarball: > tar xpvfj my-tarball.tar.bz2 > Where I can extract it from? > > Thanks, > Leon. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > !DSPAM:41cc9dca320125380216915! > > -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l haischt@daniel.stefan.haischt.name From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 23:18:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F54916A4CF for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:18:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.uol.com.br (smtpout3.uol.com.br [200.221.4.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90BC043D1F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:18:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from giulianocm@uol.com.br) Received: from [201.1.133.218] (unknown [201.1.133.218]) by scorpion3.uol.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D109D502 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:18:34 -0200 (BRST) Message-ID: <41CCA3C5.60401@uol.com.br> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:18:29 -0200 From: Giuliano Cardozo Medalha Organization: WZTECH User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Device Driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: giulianocm@uol.com.br List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:18:37 -0000 All, Lets supose that I am having a device that does not have support in the FreeBSD Kernel. How is the procedure to compile and use a device driver for FreeBSD ? There is some place and documents to learn how to do that ? Thanks a lot, Giuliano From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 23:23:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B6316A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:23:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA0943D39 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:23:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from taosecurity@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so78687rnf for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:23:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=dPzwjXU5Iflvokl4W+nifAJ2B+rO4ikb4hzvEOs1q1NTIEHFGqkysPQTm8abGMLfuga7Y/wVsIrhKr5jQ64GqrdaVWl8SBsLY7z4tIsUmuK1T6BwWNCcpuZGWvMfJuXv1LuLOgjJkKU5CBisEJtzs2Wi3GkeDF0WJHucul8CxGU= Received: by 10.38.163.43 with SMTP id l43mr181070rne; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:23:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.209.12 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:23:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <120ef0530412241523676f00ef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:23:44 -0500 From: Richard Bejtlich To: Jorn Argelo In-Reply-To: <20041224215342.M77401@wcborstel.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <120ef053041224131444856476@mail.gmail.com> <20041224215342.M77401@wcborstel.nl> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Answers: Keeping FreeBSD Applications Up-To-Date X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Richard Bejtlich List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:23:46 -0000 On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:00:25 +0100, Jorn Argelo wrote: > Hi Richard, > > It looks good. > > However, it would be nice if you actually wrapped the text to make it > readable. Hi Jorn, I realized I missed a closing tag when I posted the file. It should render properly now. Thank you for your feedback! Richard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 23:28:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9DB716A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:28:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rader.servnow.com (rader.servnow.com [69.93.129.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8687343D53 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:28:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikes@siralan.org) Received: from 12-210-221-89.client.insightbb.com ([12.210.221.89] helo=familysquires.net) by rader.servnow.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.43) id 1ChyrQ-0000XS-AC; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:28:40 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:28:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael L. Squires" X-X-Sender: mikes@familysquires.net To: Peter McMahan In-Reply-To: <20041224220609.34328.qmail@web41603.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20041224181713.E4053@familysquires.net> References: <20041224220609.34328.qmail@web41603.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: mikes@siralan.org X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rader.servnow.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - siralan.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDM problems on fresh install of 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:28:47 -0000 A couple of problems that might cause this have been discussed recently in the freebsd-kde mailing list. One of them involved not having the correct KDE startup files in /usr/local/share/config/kdm (where kdmrc lives, apparently) and another had to do with commands in the shell startup scripts failing (such as user .profile or system /etc/profile). I've also seen this happen when a previous attempt to start X failed and left trash in the user's home directory and in the /tmp directory. I think the command to create the kdm startup files is "genkdmconf"; however, there are no associated man pages with it but it should be documented on the kde.org Web site. Mike Squires On Fri, 24 Dec 2004, Peter McMahan wrote: > Hi, > I just installed FreeBSD 5.3 on a Dell Latitude, and > installation went without a hitch. While trying to > configure KDM for graphical login, though, I ran into > some problems. > startx works fine as both root and as a regular user. > However, when I run KDM and enter my username and > password all that loads is another instance of KDM. > This is very frustrating. The same issue occurs when I > try XDM, so I think the problem is with BSD and not > KDE. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 23:44:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CFB416A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:44:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1909643D31 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:44:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scode@scode-whitestar.mine.nu) Received: from scode-whitestar.mine.nu ([83.226.138.136] [83.226.138.136]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with ESMTP <20041224234443.ZTXI6820.mxfep02.bredband.com@scode-whitestar.mine.nu>; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:44:43 +0100 Received: by scode-whitestar.mine.nu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B15F717B9C4; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:52:12 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:52:12 +0100 From: Peter Schuller To: "Michael C. Shultz" Message-ID: <20041224235211.GA25610@scode-whitestar.mine.nu> References: <41CBB0D6.6080807@att.net> <200412232338.09555.reso3w83@verizon.net> <200412241554.03932.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <200412241125.04925.reso3w83@verizon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200412241125.04925.reso3w83@verizon.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:44:46 -0000 > That is indeed the case with portmanager. Sometimes it is a waste > of time to rebuild everthing when a dependency changes, and sometimes > it is the right thing to do, portmanager assumes it is always the right > thing to do. One way this has proved to be a benefit is I've never > had to run the special scripts when gnome is updated because after > running portmanager everything is already up to date. Interesting. While I certainly don't mind a tool doing what's right, this issue which also exists with NetBSD's pkg_chk is the primary reason why I'm almost about to give up on it; it's just feasable to perform full system upgrades properly. Having your primary workstation half unusable for three days while the whole universe is rebuilding is not very nice... One possible solution I have considered for pkg_chk that may also work for portmanager is to set up a build environment in a chroot where everything is properly upgraded. Either for building packages for all upgraded ports such that the ports installed on the real system can then be upgraded quickly using the packages; or alternatively by perhaps maintaining two separate target directories such that one is being used by normal applications while the other one is being built. One could then make the switch atomically by re-mounting /usr/local (or /usr/pkg in NetBSDs case). Is this even feasable? Is portmanager intended to fully replace portupgrade in the long run? If so I would, as a user, very much value being able to upgrade all ports without disabling the machine in question. As it stands now, I much prefer portupgrade to NetBSD's pkg_chk for exactly this reason, even if portupgrade requires manual tweaking sometimes. -- / Peter Schuller, InfiDyne Technologies HB PGP userID: 0xE9758B7D or 'Peter Schuller ' Key retrieval: Send an E-Mail to getpgpkey@scode.org E-Mail: peter.schuller@infidyne.com Web: http://www.scode.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 00:25:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F6D616A4CE; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:25:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif3-6-0-cust204.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.67.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4CEB43D58; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:25:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1Chzk7-000C1I-RH; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:25:11 +0000 Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:25:11 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Nikolas Britton , Paul Richards , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Daniel Blendea , freebsd-www@freebsd.org, jsha , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041225002511.GC7445@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Nikolas Britton , Paul Richards , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Daniel Blendea , freebsd-www@freebsd.org, jsha , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <20041224054000.GL19624@funkthat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sHrvAb52M6C8blB9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041224054000.GL19624@funkthat.com> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Ceri Davies Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:25:28 -0000 --sHrvAb52M6C8blB9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 09:40:00PM -0800, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > Nikolas Britton wrote this message on Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 22:46 -0600: [ Choosing a random(ish) post to reply to - I am on holiday right now and I will not pretend to have read the whole thread ] > > 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site with = a=20 > > modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of Cascadin= g=20 > > Style Sheets?) >=20 > you mean a sans-serif font? yes, most computer display fonts should > be sans-serif since the screen resolution does not always allow you to > do that... (and Helvetica isn't that modern, about 50 years old now > it appears)... >=20 > As for CSS, it appears that we do use CSS on the site: > I just committed that before I left for holidays; it is only a first step towards CSS'ing the site, and once the conversion to CSS is complete then it should be simple to have an a "best stylesheet" competition or similar (something along those lines was discussed on doc@ a couple of weeks ago). Matt Seaman posted a link to a crappy "here is what CSS can do" mockup that I posted to doc@ just before the commit mentioned above - it's at http://shrike.submonkey.net/~ceri/data2/index.html (be sure to let all the images load - this is on a slow link - and be aware that it doesn't work properly in IE for reasons that DES mentioned elsewhere). Once the conversion to CSS is complete then I have ideas for a way to offer users a personalised stylesheet (subject to implementation [I do not have a computer with me] and benchmarking [it is likely to be a little slow, though this remains to be seen]), and then you will all whine like bitchen about being asked to accept a cookie. Simon@ also has a parallel project running to redesign the site on a more fundamental which is showing promise; my main focus at present is to migrate all style related bits into stylesheets, at which point it will be easy to mess around with colour/font/layout. At present, it is not. So yes, to whoever asked the question, we have heard of CSS and we have not only been using it (minimally) for over three years, but there is real activity in improving what we do have already. > And part of CSS is letting people choose what font they want to display > the site in... It appears at least Mozilla chooses Times by default... > So I'd more complain to the browers that display with the default font.. Stimmt. Ceri --=20 Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.) --sHrvAb52M6C8blB9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBzLNnocfcwTS3JF8RAmkHAKDIfGR6TJaNi+IQKLqo+N3plg6LaQCcDGW+ +gHjlNh7VE624g9IzAxaEQs= =gaup -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sHrvAb52M6C8blB9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 00:28:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5AF16A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:28:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71AC43D49 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:28:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working.potentialtech.com (pa-plum-cmts1e-68-68-113-64.pittpa.adelphia.net [68.68.113.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E4669A3F for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:28:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:28:37 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20041224192837.4cd19287.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0beta4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Simple program to check for problems prior to running portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:28:42 -0000 http://www.potentialtech.com/wmoran/portupgrade-check.php -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 00:29:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A177016A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:29:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jail.idea-anvil.net (idea-anvil.net [63.226.12.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315EB43D3F for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:29:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from james@idea-anvil.net) Received: from mail.Idea-Anvil.net (vaio [10.0.0.99]) by jail.idea-anvil.net (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBP0T9vd012635; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:29:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from james@idea-anvil.net) From: James Organization: Jhai To: Ruben de Groot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:29:05 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <20041224065512.29367.qmail@rahul.net> <200412240326.16142.james@idea-anvil.net> <20041224161643.GA40553@ei.bzerk.org> In-Reply-To: <20041224161643.GA40553@ei.bzerk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412241729.06087.james@idea-anvil.net> Subject: Re: sendmail running on localhost 25? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:29:14 -0000 On Friday 24 December 2004 09:16 am, Ruben de Groot wrote: > On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 03:26:15AM -0700, James typed: > > Hello, > > > > Use: > > sendmail_enable="none" > > > > This will disable all sendmail processes. > > This will also disable those annoying daily, weekly and montly > messages recieved from cronjobs. > > Who wants to read about your disks filling up, attempts to break into > your server and other futilities anyway ;-) Thanks for the heads up on that.... Is there a way to make cron use something other then sendmail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 00:29:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE4916A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:29:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3167B43D1D for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:29:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from [66.47.111.183] (helo=joeandlane.com) (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1ChzoE-0000hl-N8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:29:26 -0500 Received: from joeandlane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBP0SjCb021310 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:28:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBP0SjtF021309 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:28:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) X-Authentication-Warning: joeandlane.com: lholcombe set sender to lane@joeandlane.com using -f From: Lane To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:28:45 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <41CC9DE0.6010500@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412241828.45642.lane@joeandlane.com> X-ELNK-Trace: e56a4b6ca9bdfda11aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79416240ef79443997899ed7a4a36f33e2350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.47.111.183 Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:29:27 -0000 On Friday 24 December 2004 17:08, Dag-Erling Smrgrav wrote: > Chris writes: > > Dag-Erling Smrgrav wrote: > > > Responding to Chris: CSS is neither outdated nor a Windows thing. You > > > apparently need to get an extra clue or two before you rejoin this > > > discussion. > > > > Not really - Some years back MS made a big issue about CSS. It was > > then that I lost interest in web devel. Besides - web devel isn't my > > bag, so I really don't think that I need to have or get a clue. > > CSS is a W3 standard, but was originally designed by the CTO of Opera > Software, a company which is one of Microsoft's more vocal detractors > and which recently received a large settlement in a lawsuit regarding > Microsoft's (alleged) intentional efforts to make their website render > poorly in Opera's browser. IE handles CSS1 badly, and CSS2 almost not > at all. Calling it a Windows thing severely misrepresents the facts. > > > One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to > > drive the car. > > One should not criticize the design of an engine while vehemently > claiming to have no interest in how enginges are built. > > DES Hey, beastie! I've just come back to the list after some years away, and I must say I've been well entertained by the "Visual Identity" thread these last few days! Someone, I forget whom, kept mentioning the "bikeshed," and that is what caught my attention. So I went the the plain-old drab website at www.freebsd.org and enterend the term in the search form, just to refresh my memory. Then I followed all of the links until I came to the original "bikeshed" post. I include a link here for reference, in case anyone else wants a good laugh: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=506636+517178+/usr/local/www/db/text/1999/freebsd-hackers/19991003.freebsd-hackers Hope the link doesn't get folded in the email process. I think that one does not necessarily have to have experience building a bikeshed to know what it is. But it's always good exercise building one! Flame On! lane P.S. I also looked up Brett Glass on google. They say any publicity is good publicity, but I'm not so sure in his case. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 00:46:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E5216A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:46:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE4643D48 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:46:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working.potentialtech.com (pa-plum-cmts1e-68-68-113-64.pittpa.adelphia.net [68.68.113.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2565969A3F; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:46:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:46:11 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: James Message-Id: <20041224194611.7ebdaef6.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <200412241729.06087.james@idea-anvil.net> References: <20041224065512.29367.qmail@rahul.net> <200412240326.16142.james@idea-anvil.net> <20041224161643.GA40553@ei.bzerk.org> <200412241729.06087.james@idea-anvil.net> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0beta4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: mail25@bzerk.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail running on localhost 25? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:46:13 -0000 James wrote: > On Friday 24 December 2004 09:16 am, Ruben de Groot wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 03:26:15AM -0700, James typed: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Use: > > > sendmail_enable="none" > > > > > > This will disable all sendmail processes. > > > > This will also disable those annoying daily, weekly and montly > > messages recieved from cronjobs. > > > > Who wants to read about your disks filling up, attempts to break into > > your server and other futilities anyway ;-) > > Thanks for the heads up on that.... Is there a way to make cron use something > other then sendmail? I missed the original post, and it appears to have been snipped away, but one possibility: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/outgoing-only.html -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 00:55:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E4416A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:55:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C95243D39 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:55:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.176]) by relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2CD10454 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:55:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.131.34]) [66.133.131.176]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 31701-59-38 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:55:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (67-137-45-225.dsl2.elk.ca.frontiernet.net [67.137.45.225]) by relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DBB110371 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:55:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (bigdaddy.mykitchentable.net [192.168.1.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9723BF3BA for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:55:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <41CCBA75.9000802@mykitchentable.net> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:55:17 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms080708040007040300010203" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Subject: Multiple Vinum Problems Since Upgrade From 4.9 To 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:55:23 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080708040007040300010203 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since an upgrade from 4.9 to 4.10, I've had problems with vinum. The basic problem is that upon reboot, two of my vinum drives show up as "referenced" and thus create the associated chaos. I've tried many things and fiddled around quite a bit so I can't say exactly what I've done. I can include all of the entries in the history file since Oct. 31 if that's a help but it would be a long list. So prior to digging that deep, I will describe where I stand currently and where I want to finish. Currently, I have one vinum volume that I use for /usr. Fortunately this volume is up and running or I would really be in a mess. Here's the 'vinum list' output in this state: blacklamb# vinum vinum -> list 2 drives: D disk1 State: up Device /dev/da0s1h Avail: 0/8383 MB (0%) D disk2 State: up Device /dev/da1s1h Avail: 0/8383 MB (0%) 1 volumes: V usr State: up Plexes: 1 Size: 16 GB 1 plexes: P usr.p0 S State: up Subdisks: 2 Size: 16 GB 2 subdisks: S usr.p0.s0 State: up PO: 0 B Size: 8383 MB S usr.p0.s1 State: up PO: 256 kB Size: 8383 MB I want to add another volume and mount it on /ftp. After creating the volume, vinum sees it and it appears OK as indicated in this output: vinum -> list 5 drives: D disk1 State: up Device /dev/da0s1h Avail: 0/8383 MB (0%) D disk2 State: up Device /dev/da1s1h Avail: 0/8383 MB (0%) D ftp1 State: up Device /dev/ad0s1h Avail: 0/76319 MB (0%) D ftp2 State: up Device /dev/ad1s1h Avail: 0/76319 MB (0%) D ftp3 State: up Device /dev/da3s1h Avail: 0/114473 MB (0%) 2 volumes: V usr State: up Plexes: 1 Size: 16 GB V ftp State: up Plexes: 1 Size: 260 GB 2 plexes: P usr.p0 S State: up Subdisks: 2 Size: 16 GB P ftp.p0 C State: up Subdisks: 3 Size: 260 GB 5 subdisks: S usr.p0.s0 State: up PO: 0 B Size: 8383 MB S usr.p0.s1 State: up PO: 256 kB Size: 8383 MB S ftp.p0.s0 State: up PO: 0 B Size: 74 GB S ftp.p0.s1 State: up PO: 74 GB Size: 74 GB S ftp.p0.s2 State: up PO: 149 GB Size: 111 GB Next I 'quit' the vinum command line and fsck my newly created volume. It finishes successfully and I mount it: blacklamb# df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1a 302350 102088 176074 37% / /dev/vinum/usr 16639674 5433762 9874739 35% /usr procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc /dev/vinum/ftp 265119539 119729707 132133856 48% /ftp I recheck with the 'vinum list' command and the output is the same as above. Now I cross my fingers and reboot to see if the volume comes up properly on startup. However ftp3 (/dev/da3s1h) comes up 'referenced' and causes problems. Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a dumpon: crash dumps to /dev/da1s1b (13, 131081) vinum: loaded vinum: reading configuration from /dev/ad1s1h vinum: ftp.p0.s2 is crashed vinum: ftp.p0 is corrupt vinum: updating configuration from /dev/ad0s1h vinum: updating configuration from /dev/da1s1h vinum: updating configuration from /dev/da0s1h vinum: /dev is mounted read-only, not rebuilding /dev/vinum Warning: defective objects D ftp3 State: referenced Device Avail: 0/0 MB P ftp.p0 C State: corrupt Subdisks: 3 Size: 260 GB S ftp.p0.s2 State: crashed PO: 149 GB Size: 111 GB swapon: adding /dev/da1s1b as swap device Automatic boot in progress... /dev/da0s1a: FILESYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS /dev/da0s1a: clean, 100130 free (938 frags, 12399 blocks, 0.6% fragmentation) /dev/vinum/ftp: CANNOT READ: BLK 546979872 /dev/vinum/ftp: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. /dev/vinum/ftp: CANNOT WRITE: BLK 2800 /dev/vinum/ftp: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. /dev/vinum/usr: FILESYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS /dev/vinum/usr: clean, 11205903 free (152463 frags, 1381680 blocks, 0.9% fragmentation) THE FOLLOWING FILE SYSTEM HAD AN UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: /dev/vinum/ftp (/ftp) File system preen failed, trying fsck -y . . . ** /dev/da0s1a ** Last Mounted on / ** Root file system ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups 2053 files, 51045 used, 100130 free (938 frags, 12399 blocks, 0.6% fragmentation) ** /dev/vinum/usr ** Last Mounted on /usr ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups 401072 files, 5433771 used, 11205903 free (152463 frags, 1381680 blocks, 0.9% fragmentation) ** /dev/vinum/ftp CANNOT READ: BLK 546979872 UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY CONTINUE? yes THE FOLLOWING DISK SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 546979872, 546979873, 546979874, 546979875, /dev/vinum/ftp: CANNOT FIGURE OUT FILE SYSTEM PARTITION UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY WARNING: R/W mount of /ftp denied. Filesystem is not clean - run fsck mount: /dev/vinum/ftp: Operation not permitted Mounting /etc/fstab filesystems failed, startup aborted Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: I enter the shell and run 'vinum list': vinum -> list 4 drives: D ftp1 State: up Device /dev/ad0s1h Avail: 0/76319 MB (0%) D ftp2 State: up Device /dev/ad1s1h Avail: 0/76319 MB (0%) D disk1 State: up Device /dev/da0s1h Avail: 0/8383 MB (0%) D disk2 State: up Device /dev/da1s1h Avail: 0/8383 MB (0%) D ftp3 State: referenced Device Avail: 0/0 MB 2 volumes: V usr State: up Plexes: 1 Size: 16 GB V ftp State: up Plexes: 1 Size: 260 GB 2 plexes: P usr.p0 S State: up Subdisks: 2 Size: 16 GB P ftp.p0 C State: corrupt Subdisks: 3 Size: 260 GB 5 subdisks: S usr.p0.s0 State: up PO: 0 B Size: 8383 MB S usr.p0.s1 State: up PO: 256 kB Size: 8383 MB S ftp.p0.s0 State: up PO: 0 B Size: 74 GB S ftp.p0.s1 State: up PO: 74 GB Size: 74 GB S ftp.p0.s2 State: crashed PO: 149 GB Size: 111 GB Now I delete all references to the ftp volume by running these commands: vinum -> rm -f ftp.p0.s2 vinum: removing ftp.p0.s2 Correcting length of ftp.p0: was 547043829, is 312602446 vinum: ftp.p0 is up vinum -> rm -f ftp.p0.s1 vinum: removing ftp.p0.s1 Correcting length of ftp.p0: was 312602446, is 156301223 vinum -> rm -f ftp.p0.s0 vinum: removing ftp.p0.s0 vinum -> rm -f ftp.p0 vinum: removing ftp.p0 vinum: ftp is down vinum -> rm -f ftp vinum: removing ftp vinum -> rm -f ftp3 vinum -> rm -f ftp2 vinum -> rm -f ftp1 Yet the 'reference to ftp3 remains. vinum -> list 1 drives: D disk1 State: up Device /dev/da0s1h Avail: 0/8383 MB (0%) D disk2 State: up Device /dev/da1s1h Avail: 0/8383 MB (0%) D ftp3 State: referenced Device Avail: 0/0 MB 1 volumes: V usr State: up Plexes: 1 Size: 16 GB 1 plexes: P usr.p0 S State: up Subdisks: 2 Size: 16 GB 2 subdisks: S usr.p0.s0 State: up PO: 0 B Size: 8383 MB S usr.p0.s1 State: up PO: 256 kB Size: 8383 MB Why does the list output show "1 drives:" when there are three listed and two working? Anyway, I've been here before and I quit vinum. Then I issue these commands: # df Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1a 604700 204180 352144 37% / /dev/vinum/usr 33279348 10867544 19749458 35% /usr procfs 8 8 0 100% /proc # umount /usr # vinum stop vinum: unloaded vinum unloaded # vinum start vinum: loaded vinum: reading configuration from /dev/da1s1h vinum: updating configuration from /dev/da0s1h Then I issue a 'vinum list' and all seems well. # vinum vinum -> list 2 drives: D disk1 State: up Device /dev/da0s1h Avail: 0/8383 MB (0%) D disk2 State: up Device /dev/da1s1h Avail: 0/8383 MB (0%) 1 volumes: V usr State: up Plexes: 1 Size: 16 GB 1 plexes: P usr.p0 S State: up Subdisks: 2 Size: 16 GB 2 subdisks: S usr.p0.s0 State: up PO: 0 B Size: 8383 MB S usr.p0.s1 State: up PO: 256 kB Size: 8383 MB vinum -> Since everything appears correct, this seems like a good place to do 'vinum saveconfig'. Next I edit /etc/fstab so only /ftp is not mounted and reboot. The system reboots fine and the 'vinum list' is as it is immediately above. Running in full production mode, I create the ftp volume again: vinum -> create -f vinum_ftp.conf Dec 24 16:37:45 blacklamb /kernel: vinum: drive ftp1 is up Dec 24 16:37:45 blacklamb /kernel: vinum: drive ftp2 is up Dec 24 16:37:45 blacklamb /kernel: vinum: drive ftp3 is up 5 drives: D disk1 State: up Device /dev/da0s1h Avail: 0/8383 MB (0%) D disk2 State: up Device /dev/da1s1h Avail: 0/8383 MB (0%) D ftp1 State: up Device /dev/ad0s1h Avail: 0/76319 MB (0%) D ftp2 State: up Device /dev/ad1s1h Avail: 0/76319 MB (0%) D ftp3 State: up Device /dev/da3s1h Avail: 0/114473 MB (0%) 2 volumes: V usr State: up Plexes: 1 Size: 16 GB V ftp State: up Plexes: 1 Size: 260 GB 2 plexes: P usr.p0 S State: up Subdisks: 2 Size: 16 GB P ftp.p0 C State: up Subdisks: 3 Size: 260 GB 5 subdisks: S usr.p0.s0 State: up PO: 0 B Size: 8383 MB S usr.p0.s1 State: up PO: 256 kB Size: 8383 MB S ftp.p0.s0 State: up PO: 0 B Size: 74 GB S ftp.p0.s1 State: up PO: 74 GB Size: 74 GB S ftp.p0.s2 State: up PO: 149 GB Size: 111 GB Dec 24 16:37:45 blacklamb /kernel: vinum: ftp.p0.s0 is up Dec 24 16:37:45 blacklamb /kernel: vinum: ftp.p0.s1 is up Dec 24 16:37:45 blacklamb /kernel: vinum: ftp.p0.s2 is up Dec 24 16:37:45 blacklamb /kernel: vinum: ftp.p0 is up Dec 24 16:37:45 blacklamb /kernel: vinum: ftp is up After running fsck, I can mount and access the volume. The system continues to run fine until the next reboot where the same problems start all over again. I also have the same problem with another volume I wish to run called "backup". How can I fix my vinum volumes so they survive reboots? Thanks for your help and Happy Holidays! 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Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:03:57 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:03:57 -0700 From: Danny MacMillan In-reply-to: <200412241729.06087.james@idea-anvil.net> To: James Message-id: <20041225010357.GA1170@procyon.nekulturny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline References: <20041224065512.29367.qmail@rahul.net> <200412240326.16142.james@idea-anvil.net> <200412241729.06087.james@idea-anvil.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: Ruben de Groot cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail running on localhost 25? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:04:06 -0000 On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 05:29:05PM -0700, James wrote: > On Friday 24 December 2004 09:16 am, Ruben de Groot wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 03:26:15AM -0700, James typed: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Use: > > > sendmail_enable="none" > > > > > > This will disable all sendmail processes. > > > > This will also disable those annoying daily, weekly and montly > > messages recieved from cronjobs. > > > > Who wants to read about your disks filling up, attempts to break into > > your server and other futilities anyway ;-) > > Thanks for the heads up on that.... Is there a way to make cron use something > other then sendmail? If you have installed qmail properly, you don't have to do anything extra for this to work. You should have something like this in /etc/mail/mailer.conf: # Configuration for mailwrapper is kept in /etc/mail/mailer.conf. # Replace that file with this one to enable qmail under a sendmail # disguise. Very useful. sendmail /usr/local/qmail/bin/sendmail send-mail /usr/local/qmail/bin/sendmail mailq /usr/local/qmail/bin/qmail-qread newaliases /usr/local/qmail/bin/newaliases hoststat /usr/local/qmail/bin/qmail-tcpto purgestat /usr/local/qmail/bin/qmail-tcpok You'll note the comment lines; this is the mailer.conf file that is supplied by the qmail port. In fact, if you followed the directions in the pkg-message for the port, you will have run: make enable-qmail Which will have updated your /etc/mail/mailer.conf file automagically. One thing to note: if you've executed the 'minimal survival command' then your root email is accumulating in the ~alias mailbox. If you want it to show up in your mailbox (or anywhere else), you'll have to modify the ~alias/.qmail-root file appropriately. The same goes for postmaster and mailer-daemon. -- Danny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 01:08:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBCAF16A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:08:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay15-f3.bay15.hotmail.com [65.54.185.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB5D43D3F for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:08:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdagee@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:08:00 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 68.185.36.149 by by15fd.bay15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:07:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.185.36.149] X-Originating-Email: [kdagee@hotmail.com] X-Sender: kdagee@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <1103920043.13684.24.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> From: "Karl Agee" To: marcus@marcuscom.com Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:07:10 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Dec 2004 01:08:00.0387 (UTC) FILETIME=[2D57E530:01C4EA1E] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gnome-cd: connecting to cddb server as user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:08:00 -0000 >From: Joe Marcus Clarke >To: Karl Agee >CC: FreeBSD User Questions List >Subject: Re: gnome-cd: connecting to cddb server as user >Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:27:23 -0500 > >On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 11:02 -0800, Karl Agee wrote: > > Freebsd 4.11-pre, gnome-lite 2.8.1. > > > > using gnome-cd to listen to cd's in my user acct, but it wont connect to >the > > cddb server to pull down cd info. It does when I do it as root, >however. > > > > The only error I see is this: > > > > ** (gnome-cd:671): WARNING **: could not contact cddb server > > > > how to fix???? > >What messages are printed to stdout/stderr when this happens? Make sure >that ~/.cddb* are all owned by you. If things are still failing, get a >binary sniffer trace of the CDDB conversation. Joe: The only message I get is: ** (gnome-cd:671): WARNING **: could not contact cddb server nothing in any logs. Everything is owned by me. --Karl > _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 01:25:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1856E16A4CE; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:25:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47FF43D2F; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:25:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7886E60ED; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:25:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 54454-04; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:25:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA12060E4; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:25:35 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41CCC1B7.4090008@makeworld.com> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:26:15 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041218) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> <20041224142246.GB779@gothmog.gr> <41CC9DE0.6010500@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.0 (20041102) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: Giorgos Keramidas cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: Nikolas Britton cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:25:45 -0000 Dag-Erling Smrgrav wrote: > Chris writes: > >>Dag-Erling Smrgrav wrote: >> >>>Responding to Chris: CSS is neither outdated nor a Windows thing. You >>>apparently need to get an extra clue or two before you rejoin this >>>discussion. >> >>Not really - Some years back MS made a big issue about CSS. It was >>then that I lost interest in web devel. Besides - web devel isn't my >>bag, so I really don't think that I need to have or get a clue. > > > CSS is a W3 standard, but was originally designed by the CTO of Opera > Software, a company which is one of Microsoft's more vocal detractors > and which recently received a large settlement in a lawsuit regarding > Microsoft's (alleged) intentional efforts to make their website render > poorly in Opera's browser. IE handles CSS1 badly, and CSS2 almost not > at all. Calling it a Windows thing severely misrepresents the facts. > > >>One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to >>drive the car. > > > One should not criticize the design of an engine while vehemently > claiming to have no interest in how enginges are built. > > DES Technically - I didn't criticize. Allow me to post verbatim; "CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a Windows thing?" Doesn't look like it to me - looks more like a query or two. But that's just me tho - perhaps you read something else? Perhaps too much eggnog? Perhaps not enough? -- Best regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 01:34:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF11416A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:34:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out011.verizon.net (out011pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7103E43D2F for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:34:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reso3w83@verizon.net) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.26.84.7]) by out011.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041225013404.GKAC4717.out011.verizon.net@ringworm.mechee.com>; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:34:04 -0600 Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 25AB92CE7B1; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:31:14 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:31:13 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <41CBB0D6.6080807@att.net> <200412241125.04925.reso3w83@verizon.net> <20041224235211.GA25610@scode-whitestar.mine.nu> In-Reply-To: <20041224235211.GA25610@scode-whitestar.mine.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412241731.14458.reso3w83@verizon.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out011.verizon.net from [4.26.84.7] at Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:34:04 -0600 cc: Peter Schuller cc: ringworm@inbox.lv Subject: Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:34:06 -0000 On Friday 24 December 2004 03:52 pm, Peter Schuller wrote: > > That is indeed the case with portmanager. Sometimes it is a waste > > of time to rebuild everthing when a dependency changes, and > > sometimes it is the right thing to do, portmanager assumes it is > > always the right thing to do. One way this has proved to be a > > benefit is I've never had to run the special scripts when gnome is > > updated because after running portmanager everything is already up > > to date. > > Interesting. While I certainly don't mind a tool doing what's right, > this issue which also exists with NetBSD's pkg_chk is the primary > reason why I'm almost about to give up on it; it's just feasable to > perform full system upgrades properly. Having your primary > workstation half unusable for three days while the whole universe is > rebuilding is not very nice... Right now portmanager is upgrading kdelibs and I'm still using it. The only problem that might occur is between the deinstall/reinstall steps I'll be missing the libraries for about a minute, when this happens I just wait untill its finished reinstalling then continue. Here is a recap of what happens: original kdelibs is already installed all of its dependencies have been updated by portmanager make kdelibs target is run installed kdelibs is backed up to a package for safety kdelibs is deinstalled < now will I not be able to run something new that < is in the kdelibs new kdelibs is reinstalled < now I can run a new kdelibrary item backup package is deleted new kdelibs package is built I've been testing this for a year now and haven't had a problem yet using a program while it is being updated. > > One possible solution I have considered for pkg_chk that may also > work for portmanager is to set up a build environment in a chroot > where everything is properly upgraded. Either for building packages > for all upgraded ports such that the ports installed on the real > system can then be upgraded quickly using the packages; or > alternatively by perhaps maintaining two separate target directories > such that one is being used by normal applications while the other > one is being built. One could then make the switch atomically by > re-mounting /usr/local (or /usr/pkg in NetBSDs case). To do this would require two targets because building one port requires its dependencies to being installed and up to date. It would be a bit of work to do this and I'm not sure it would really be that nessessary. I will keep an opened mind on the idea however. > > Is this even feasable? > > Is portmanager intended to fully replace portupgrade in the long run? No. portmanager can not do something like what portupgrade's portsclean -D -P can do for example. Portupgrade has one serious flaw in my opinion and that is running something like pkgdb -F damages the port installation database as far as I'm concerned. It causes the data base to say ports were built with dependency ports that they were never really built with. Portmanager only addresses that one issue and for the forseeable future that is where all the focus will be, only on correctly updating ports. Maybe if some talanted programmer wants to help out some day we will try to do other things, but right now I'm afraid if I spend time on new features not directly related to updating ports I'll end up letting the core purpose get sloppy. > If so I would, as a user, very much value being able to upgrade all > ports without disabling the machine in question. As it stands now, I > much prefer portupgrade to NetBSD's pkg_chk for exactly this reason, > even if portupgrade requires manual tweaking sometimes. I am not familiar with NetBSD's pkg_chk, so I can't comment on it, but now that I know it exists I will learn what I can about it. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 01:44:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE08A16A4CE; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:44:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7F843D49; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:44:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0C960ED; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:44:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 54464-06; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:44:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF19860E4; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:44:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41CCC618.9050002@makeworld.com> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:44:56 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041218) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD - Questions References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> <20041224142246.GB779@gothmog.gr> <41CC9DE0.6010500@makeworld.com> <41CCC1B7.4090008@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: <41CCC1B7.4090008@makeworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.0 (20041102) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= cc: Nikolas Britton cc: Giorgos Keramidas cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:44:23 -0000 Chris wrote: > Dag-Erling Smrgrav wrote: > >> Chris writes: >> >>> Dag-Erling Smrgrav wrote: >>> >>>> Responding to Chris: CSS is neither outdated nor a Windows thing. You >>>> apparently need to get an extra clue or two before you rejoin this >>>> discussion. >>> >>> >>> Not really - Some years back MS made a big issue about CSS. It was >>> then that I lost interest in web devel. Besides - web devel isn't my >>> bag, so I really don't think that I need to have or get a clue. >> >> >> >> CSS is a W3 standard, but was originally designed by the CTO of Opera >> Software, a company which is one of Microsoft's more vocal detractors >> and which recently received a large settlement in a lawsuit regarding >> Microsoft's (alleged) intentional efforts to make their website render >> poorly in Opera's browser. IE handles CSS1 badly, and CSS2 almost not >> at all. Calling it a Windows thing severely misrepresents the facts. >> >> >>> One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to >>> drive the car. >> >> >> >> One should not criticize the design of an engine while vehemently >> claiming to have no interest in how enginges are built. >> >> DES > > > Technically - I didn't criticize. Allow me to post verbatim; > > "CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a Windows thing?" > > Doesn't look like it to me - looks more like a query or two. > But that's just me tho - perhaps you read something else? > > Perhaps too much eggnog? Perhaps not enough? > Allow me to end this with this thought, if there is any doubt that what I asked was indeed a question (opposed to a statement of fact as DES seems to say ("Calling it a Windows thing severely misrepresents the facts")) Here is a quote from Dictionary.com on Question - http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=question 1. An expression of inquiry that invites or calls for a reply. 2. An interrogative sentence, phrase, or gesture. In addition, that little thing at the then of the line (?) also defines it as the above mentioned. -- Best regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 01:48:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5AF16A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:48:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BBC43D2D for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:48:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.13.2/8.13.2/d) with ESMTP id iBP1mAud011535 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:48:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:48:10 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200412250148.iBP1mA5S011534@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig for WLAN using WEP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:48:11 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote on Fri Dec 24 16:22:29 2004: >--On Thursday, December 23, 2004 3:49 AM -0600 Scott Bennett > wrote: >> >> As it turns out, this was the right question to ask, for which I >> thank Paul. >> >Glad I was able to help. > > >> I interpret the above as meaning that the "Broadband" interface is the >> dial-up interface, the "Local Area" interface is the real Ethernet >> interface (not connected physically), the 1394 interface is the infrared >> port as Ethernet- over-FireWire (fwe0), and the Dell 1450 card is indeed >> the wireless interface. Looking through the boot messages from >> FreeBSD 5.2.1, I don't see anything that looks like the Dell wireless >> card being detected. I've looked through all the man pages for the >> various interface types and haven't seen anything that looks appropriate. >> If anyone reading this can suggest what to do next, please do. >> >What happens when you type "% ifconfig wi0 up" and then type "% ifconfig"? Just what one would expect: ifconfig: interface wi0 does not exist >Do you see the interface? > No, it isn't detected at boot time, apparently. That's why I'm trying to find out of a driver is available for that card. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 01:56:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8813016A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:56:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.68.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B50A43D49 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:56:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.13.2/8.13.2/d) with ESMTP id iBP1uS41011638 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:56:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:56:28 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200412250156.iBP1uSVd011637@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell WLAN 1450 laptop wireless card driver needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:56:33 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote Fri Dec 24 16:25:40 2004: >--On Friday, December 24, 2004 1:54 PM -0600 Scott Bennett > wrote: > >> I'm looking for a driver that supports the Dell Wireless WLAN 1450 >> Dual- Band card for laptops. If anyone can point me in the right >> direction, please let me know. > >It's probably the wi driver, which should be in the default build of >"modern" FreeBSD. I don't think so, or at least it isn't obvious that that would be the right one. > >Look at man wi(4) and man wicontrol(8). I did. The only Dell card listed is the Dell TrueMobile 1150, which I think is a fairly old card that Dell no longer sells. Dell's recent catalogues list only the Intel PRO Wireless 2100 and 2200, the Dell Wireless 1350 and 1450, and the Dell TrueMobile 300 Bluetooth. The Dell Wireless 1450, which is the card I'm trying to get to work, is made by Broadcom, and I think Broadcom makes the chips on it as well. The wi driver is for a different manufacturer's chip set, so my guess is that the wi driver is not applicable to the Dell Wireless 1450. > >What do you see when you type "% wicontrol -i wi0 -o"? > wicontrol: SIOCGWAVELAN: Device not configured Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 01:58:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0736216A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:58:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ispmxmta05-srv.alltel.net (ispmxmta05-srv.alltel.net [166.102.165.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0D943D2F for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:58:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trey@fastmail.fm) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (really [69.40.74.131]) by ispmxmta05-srv.alltel.net with ESMTP <20041225015848.UZCL10027.ispmxmta05-srv.alltel.net@[192.168.0.2]>; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:58:48 -0600 From: Trey Sizemore To: Bill Moran In-Reply-To: <20041224192837.4cd19287.wmoran@potentialtech.com> References: <20041224192837.4cd19287.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:00:07 -0500 Message-Id: <1103940007.844.1.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Simple program to check for problems prior to running portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:58:50 -0000 On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 19:28 -0500, Bill Moran wrote: > http://www.potentialtech.com/wmoran/portupgrade-check.php > Nice job, Bill! Appears to work well here. -- Cheers, Trey --- "There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another which states that this has already happened." -- Douglas Adams 8:58PM up 2:44, 0 users, load averages: 0.07, 0.03, 0.01 FreeBSD salamander.thesizemores.net 5.3-RELEASE i386 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 02:03:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039C016A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 02:03:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B634E43D3F for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 02:03:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fj@panix.com) Received: from panix5.panix.com (panix5.panix.com [166.84.1.5]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A43D981C0; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:03:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fj@localhost) by panix5.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id iBP23Ot05641; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:03:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:03:24 -0500 From: Joe Altman To: Adrian Patino II Message-ID: <20041225020323.GA21919@panix.com> Mail-Followup-To: Joe Altman , Adrian Patino II , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <889d6df04122318205038485f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <889d6df04122318205038485f@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 Xorg jerky X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 02:03:25 -0000 On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 08:20:30PM -0600, Adrian Patino II wrote: > Hello, > > Fairly new to FreeBSD. Recently did a fresh install from 4.10 to 5.3, > and noticed that when in X, things are a bit jerky, enough for me to > notice at least. Anything scrolling jerks and SDL video programs are > very jerky. Wondering what in particular should I look into to fix > this? > Anyways, I guess im wondering if there was > anything I might have been doing insanely wrong, so that I can prevent > that from happening in the future. > I know this questions are very broad, but im too new to this game to > make them more specific, hopefully someone can point me in the right No, I cannot see what you might have done wrong. But as you say, you didn't provide a lot of detail. My guess: it does sound like something is amiss with your hardware. Do you have an idea how to go about gathering the information you need to troubleshoot, and eliminate it, as a source of whatever it is you are seeing? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 02:06:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C7716A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 02:06:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A34243D2D for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 02:06:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jayobrien@worldnet.att.net) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (dsl093-180-184.sac1.dsl.speakeasy.net[66.93.180.184]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with ESMTP id <2004122502062911100j7t4be> (Authid: jayobrien@att.net); Sat, 25 Dec 2004 02:06:29 +0000 Message-ID: <41CCCB22.2000004@att.net> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:06:26 -0800 From: Jay O'Brien User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD - questions References: <20041224192837.4cd19287.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20041224192837.4cd19287.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Simple program to check for problems prior to running portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 02:06:41 -0000 Bill Moran wrote: > http://www.potentialtech.com/wmoran/portupgrade-check.php > Very nice. I just waded through /usr/ports/UPDATING for the first time, and seeing your extracting tool immediately after that exercise shows me how valuable your tool will be in the future. It also forced me to learn how to use gunzip and chmod, but those were trivial compared to the portupgrade process. Jay O'Brien Rio Linda, California USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 02:49:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BBE216A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 02:49:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C8043D41 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 02:49:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adrianpatino@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so74608rne for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:49:04 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=SxIgSg6OSE5Aq/rhvl4tLC7/9NedcBxJN61A0DuKNlpHjhi9+LsKKSfK+aq5UE6Nn6r5Ot/gd3Gldj/lSQfDuEZJGrTDKBpnWcqs3v06MJvb7R3X2z3HeU9WqoVeO1UIfxrBTqlmdxxSCu1td0vthGDPTmlHNMRBVfuSAsRC2bs= Received: by 10.38.78.14 with SMTP id a14mr232585rnb; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:49:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.209.17 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:49:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <889d6df041224184962287c24@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:49:04 -0600 From: Adrian Patino II To: Joe Altman , Adrian Patino II , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041225020323.GA21919@panix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <889d6df04122318205038485f@mail.gmail.com> <20041225020323.GA21919@panix.com> Subject: Re: 5.3 Xorg jerky X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Adrian Patino II List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 02:49:06 -0000 Thanks for the reply On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:03:24 -0500, Joe Altman wrote: > On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 08:20:30PM -0600, Adrian Patino II wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Fairly new to FreeBSD. Recently did a fresh install from 4.10 to 5.3, > > and noticed that when in X, things are a bit jerky, enough for me to > > notice at least. Anything scrolling jerks and SDL video programs are > > very jerky. Wondering what in particular should I look into to fix > > this? > > > Anyways, I guess im wondering if there was > > anything I might have been doing insanely wrong, so that I can prevent > > that from happening in the future. > > I know this questions are very broad, but im too new to this game to > > make them more specific, hopefully someone can point me in the right > > No, I cannot see what you might have done wrong. But as you say, you > didn't provide a lot of detail. My guess: it does sound like something > is amiss with your hardware. > > Do you have an idea how to go about gathering the information you need > to troubleshoot, and eliminate it, as a source of whatever it is you > are seeing? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 03:04:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D63816A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 03:04:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A201843D45 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 03:04:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@monsterjam.org) Received: from monsterjam.org (cpe-024-211-168-040.nc.rr.com [24.211.168.40]) iBP34qCh009377 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:04:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 3183 invoked by uid 1001); 25 Dec 2004 03:04:15 -0000 Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:04:15 -0500 From: Jason To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041225030415.GA1614@monsterjam.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: serial port (com1) on 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 03:04:55 -0000 running 5.3-STABLE, from my dmesg at boot, sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A, console sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A so where is /dev/sio0 and /dev/sio1?? jason@monsterjam jason $ ls -al /dev/sio* ls: /dev/sio*: No such file or directory do I need to mknod them? Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 03:07:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81AEE16A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 03:07:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1745343D41 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 03:07:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id iBP375Up037249; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:07:05 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:07:05 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Jason Message-ID: <20041225030704.GK36639@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20041225030415.GA1614@monsterjam.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041225030415.GA1614@monsterjam.org> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial port (com1) on 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 03:07:06 -0000 In the last episode (Dec 24), Jason said: > running 5.3-STABLE, > from my dmesg at boot, > sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 > sio0: type 16550A, console > sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 > sio1: type 16550A > > so where is /dev/sio0 and /dev/sio1?? > jason@monsterjam jason $ ls -al /dev/sio* > ls: /dev/sio*: No such file or directory Callout devices are /dev/cuaa*, callin devices are /dev/ttyd* . See the sio manpage for more info. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 04:38:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE2B16A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 04:38:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.celeritystorm.com (mail.celeritystorm.com [213.247.62.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8064143D2D for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 04:38:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@celeritystorm.com) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [81.84.175.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.celeritystorm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389323D74B2 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 05:39:35 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41CCEED3.5020000@celeritystorm.com> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 04:38:43 +0000 From: - User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (X11/20040724) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Unable to get APM running on an Acer Travelmate 4002WLMi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 04:38:55 -0000 Hi list, I simply can't get APM to work on this laptop. It is a travelmate 4002WLMi (P-M 1.6) on which I've just installed FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE, and built a custom kernel with apm, apm_saver and acpi (also tried with only apm, apm+apm_saver, and now apm+apm_saver+acpi) I had set the hints to disable ACPI and enable APM on /boot/device.hints (don't know the exact names now and I've just shut the laptop down) - This resulted in no /dev/apm and /dev/apmctl entries being created.. I tried changing the order of the statements (enable APM first then disable ACPI).. to no avail I also tried enabling both, which obviously didn't work quite well :-) apm_enable="YES" and apmd_enable="YES" on /etc/rc.conf apm_load="YES" on /boot/loader.conf Still, /dev/apm*'s never show up. Except if I actually disable APM and enable ACPI instead, /dev/apm will show.. but no /dev/apmctl. I'm new to the laptop world and I really would like to enable power saving features on this laptop.. I had managed to get est/estctrl running, and it was changing my CPU from 600 to 1600 ghz according to the load, but when I disable APM and enable ACPI this will cease working and the CPU will always run at 1600ghz. Also, acpiconf -i0 says device not configured.. As far as I was able to see, most battery monitoring stuff (integrated on KDE and all) will depend on APM.. So I'd really like to enable it! Am I missing some step to get APM working? Or does this laptop just plain and simply doesn't support it ? Please enlighten me. Best regards, Hugo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 04:40:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DF216A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 04:40:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sif.giallarhorn.org (orv.dslbr.toad.net [66.159.78.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D97543D54 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 04:40:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from technews@giallarhorn.org) Received: from [172.16.1.6] (jord.giallarhorn.org [172.16.1.6]) (authenticated bits=0) by sif.giallarhorn.org (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBON1ngS020681 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:01:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from technews@giallarhorn.org) Message-ID: <41CC9D54.8020004@giallarhorn.org> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:51:00 -0500 From: orv Organization: Giallarhorn.org User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "P.B.S." References: <20041222224117.0A87865D9F@pipefish.mweb.co.za> <1103767956.41ca299434be4@mail.orbitel.bg> In-Reply-To: <1103767956.41ca299434be4@mail.orbitel.bg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on sif.giallarhorn.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 04:40:09 -0000 P.B.S. wrote: > ffsdrv seems to be able to mount only the first slice. > I couldn't get it mount any other slice after playing with it for some time. > > > # df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad4s1a 496M 124M 332M 27% / > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > /dev/ad4s1e 248M 110K 228M 0% /tmp > /dev/ad4s1f 18G 14G 2.6G 84% /usr > /dev/ad4s1d 248M 63M 165M 27% /var > /dev/ad4s3 42G 29G 13G 69% /mnt/c > /dev/ad4s5 172G 161G 12G 93% /mnt/d > > Mounts /dev/ad4s1a only. I need /usr/home/.... (ad4s1f). > Any ideas? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I was able to get it to read from /usr with some trial and error. Unfortunately i'm not running with admin privileges (On XP) right now so i can't reproduce. I'm using Windows XP -SP2 and a standard file system layout on FreeBSD 5.3. I think the following should work for ad4s1f if you haven't tried this combination yet. FFS Disk 4 FFS Parition 1 Disklabel 6 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 04:54:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E343916A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 04:54:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outside.taborandtashell.net (sub18-33.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.18.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D3743D1F for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 04:54:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net) Received: (qmail 1897 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2004 20:54:28 -0800 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.9?) (tkelly@192.168.0.9) by 192.168.0.2 with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 24 Dec 2004 20:54:28 -0800 Message-ID: <41CCF27F.4020902@taborandtashell.net> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:54:23 -0800 From: Tabor Kelly User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041112) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ruben de Groot , FreeBSD Questions References: <20041224065512.29367.qmail@rahul.net> <200412240326.16142.james@idea-anvil.net> <20041224161643.GA40553@ei.bzerk.org> In-Reply-To: <20041224161643.GA40553@ei.bzerk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: sendmail running on localhost 25? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 04:54:38 -0000 Ruben de Groot wrote: > On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 03:26:15AM -0700, James typed: > This will also disable those annoying daily, weekly and montly > messages recieved from cronjobs. > > Who wants to read about your disks filling up, attempts to break into > your server and other futilities anyway ;-) A typical qmail install includes the following: $ killall sendmail $ mv /usr/sbin/sendmail /usr/sbin/sendmail.old $ chmod 0 /usr/sbin/sendmail.old $ ln -s /var/qmail/bin/sendmail /usr/sbin/sendmail $ chmod 0 /usr/libexec/mail.local cron ends up calling /var/qmail/bin/sendmail. -Tabor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 05:06:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DD216A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 05:06:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outside.taborandtashell.net (sub18-33.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.18.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA1143D1D for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 05:06:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net) Received: (qmail 1922 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2004 21:05:55 -0800 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.9?) (tkelly@192.168.0.9) by 192.168.0.2 with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 24 Dec 2004 21:05:55 -0800 Message-ID: <41CCF533.1000306@taborandtashell.net> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:05:55 -0800 From: Tabor Kelly User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041112) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Vilot , FreeBSD Questions References: <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> <20041220120620.GA68520@duplo.dahoam> <20041220133252.GB7774@lb.tenfour> <20041220145227.GA24495@ei.bzerk.org> <41C6EE24.4080606@vilot.com> In-Reply-To: <41C6EE24.4080606@vilot.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bash - superuser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 05:06:04 -0000 Tom Vilot wrote: > Admittedly, I'm still a bit of a noob, but I can't stand any shell but > bash. Then log in as your normal user and then do a 'su -m' -Tabor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 05:16:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C86916A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 05:16:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net (dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net [69.51.151.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D424E43D41 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 05:16:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steve.lake@raiden.net) Received: from v5k7y7.raiden.net (works.jasnetworks.net [192.168.0.3]) iBP5hXbd077210 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:43:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steve.lake@raiden.net) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20041225001634.00a35700@192.168.0.25> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:25:34 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Steve Lake Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Failure in build of sdl12 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 05:16:14 -0000 When I'm trying to upgrade KDE to the latest build one of the things it asks me to install is SDL12. During the build it gives the error "dl_yuv_mmx.c:236: Syntax Error before '['" I also get one of these with 417 as well and a bunch of failures after it. The path this file is in is /usr/ports/devel/sdl12/work/video. Anyone got any ideas on how I might fix this? I'm stuck and can't go any further till it's fixed. PS. Please reply directly to me as I don't subscribe to this list. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 05:28:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B56916A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 05:28:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2548E43D1D for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 05:28:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E6324512B8; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:28:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:28:36 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Steve Lake Message-ID: <20041225052836.GA77003@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20041225001634.00a35700@192.168.0.25> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20041225001634.00a35700@192.168.0.25> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Failure in build of sdl12 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 05:28:27 -0000 --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 12:25:34AM -0500, Steve Lake wrote: > When I'm trying to upgrade KDE to the latest build one of the things=20 > it asks me to install is SDL12. During the build it gives the error=20 > "dl_yuv_mmx.c:236: Syntax Error before '['" I also get one of these with= =20 > 417 as well and a bunch of failures after it. The path this file is in i= s=20 > /usr/ports/devel/sdl12/work/video. >=20 > Anyone got any ideas on how I might fix this? I'm stuck and can't=20 > go any further till it's fixed. PS. Please reply directly to me as I= =20 > don't subscribe to this list. Thanks. Known problem, already reported to ports@FreeBSD.org, on http://pointyhat.freebsd.org, and reported to the maintainer. Kris --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBzPqEWry0BWjoQKURAlJFAKDebnNj5pcSEobXCE/Xa6nBQOPuPgCg+SV+ TtLkkWCXsBxoWL17XNlNRDo= =fRjj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 08:23:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5530A16A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:23:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from luzifer.incubus.de (incubus.de [80.237.207.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF5143D41 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:23:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@mukappabeta.de) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (pD95422A1.dip.t-dialin.net [217.84.34.161]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by luzifer.incubus.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CAC22E069; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:21:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41CD2375.1030804@mukappabeta.de> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:23:17 +0100 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joshua Lokken References: <41C4FA1C.4090006@nbritton.org> <41C62755.2030705@mukappabeta.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Nikolas Britton cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: migrating from thunderbird to mutt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:23:16 -0000 Joshua Lokken wrote: >>>Message filtering, for example I have all the different freebsd mailing >>>lists automatically put into different folders, and junk mail sorting? >>No. You have to setup procmail (or a similar program) to do that for you. > Wrong. Mutt'll do it just fine. > Just wondering; have you ever used or seen Mutt? Of course. I've used it since elm came out of fashion, about 8 years ago or so, until about 1-2 years ago, when I switched to Mozilla because I'm dealing with a multitude of mail folders on multiple imap servers today. How would this filtering work inside mutt? Apparently, it's something non-obvious. I've never seen anything like that while using mutt, and always used procmail "back then". mkb. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 09:29:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA12416A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:29:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail2.directnet.com.br (mail2.directnet.com.br [200.152.0.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E34843D54 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:29:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linux@pichler.com.br) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.directnet.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA56BEC697 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:34:42 -0200 (BRST) Received: from mail2.directnet.com.br ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail2 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 19450-04 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:34:42 -0200 (BRST) Received: by mail2.directnet.com.br (Postfix, from userid 99) id 617E8EC69A; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:34:42 -0200 (BRST) Received: from pichler (unknown [200.152.0.163]) by mail2.directnet.com.br (Postfix) with SMTP id 236D8EC697 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:34:42 -0200 (BRST) Message-ID: <001e01c4e761$d599b1c0$8b0aa8c0@pichler> From: "Ricardo Pichler" To: Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:34:45 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.224 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.224 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail2.directnet.com.br Subject: Problems with switch view and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:29:18 -0000 Hi Folks, I'll try explain my problem! I've various FreeBSD box running, they are working without keyboard and when I try connect the keyboard, the system don't respond but the system be working. In other case, I've a switch data view and if I boot a machine with FreeBSD and the switch don't be pointed in the machine, when a change the switch to a machine this doens't work. Can anybody help me? Sorry my bad english. Thanks in advance, Ricardo Pichler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 09:33:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6926C16A4CE; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:33:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (fia148-72.dsl.hccnet.nl [62.251.72.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACAA843D45; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:33:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id iBP77M600426; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:07:22 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:07:21 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> <20041224142246.GB779@gothmog.gr> <41CC9DE0.6010500@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: Giorgos Keramidas cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: Nikolas Britton cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:33:20 -0000 On Dec 25, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav launched this into the bitstream: > Chris writes: > >> One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to >> drive the car. > > One should not criticize the design of an engine while vehemently > claiming to have no interest in how enginges are built. One should not buy a car without at least knowing the general specs of=20 the engine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 09:53:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89EB216A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:53:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A54443D45 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:53:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so107555rne for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:53:25 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to:x-mimeole:thread-index:message-id; b=l0tDCi29qrDdQS8sIv9IM0/P2tuv9abBYgSZ1iP5UfPxuOYIKPXXrT8XWNIOHUK22d2mD+yK0wxBR+Rn/IK7lzfcQ3gnIKY0k43zdPk2BOK8nkXRIwWJg49EhfzSVwUGmkXjCmkWe8//y8MBpBX3jO2C7gqAweKFNZiHlNeGV3M= Received: by 10.38.15.24 with SMTP id 24mr110599rno; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:53:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from phoenix ([220.225.80.140]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTP id 71sm520430rna.2004.12.25.01.53.23; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:53:25 -0800 (PST) From: "Subhro" To: "'Ricardo Pichler'" , Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:23:15 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C4EA95.A6D37880" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <001e01c4e761$d599b1c0$8b0aa8c0@pichler> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcTqZFLM8FVJnbtFQJCAc1K0ZRqkJwAAvJUg Message-ID: <41cd3895.1d4837f8.0a2b.3003@smtp.gmail.com> Subject: RE: Problems with switch view and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:53:26 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C4EA95.A6D37880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Ricardo Pichler > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 19:05 > To: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Problems with switch view and FreeBSD > I've various FreeBSD box running, they are working without keyboard and > when > I try connect the keyboard, the system don't respond but the system be > working. The reason why it is not working for you is, the BIOS of your mother board does not enable the Keyboard PS2 port till it "sees" the keyboard. Turn off the autodetection of keyboard from the BIOs and it will work fine. Regards S. 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[205.158.62.180])B15CE18001AA for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:08:36 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.178) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 25 Dec 2004 12:08:36 -0000 Received: by cal1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 97F6279008E; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:08:36 +0000 (GMT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received: from [213.187.181.70] by cal1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 07:08:36 -0500 From: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 07:08:36 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: cal1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20041225120836.97F6279008E@cal1-1.us4.outblaze.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: MAJOR DISFUNCTION? Compute reboots instead of booting! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:08:36 -0000 Dear all of you, My computer (HP Compaq DC7100) refuses to boot to FreeBSD. It enters the= MBR, I then select FreeBSD in the bootloader and the computer reboots! What kind of behavior is thi= s, and why won't it give FreeBSD a chance? I'm aware that some UNIX systems need a patch to work on this type of co= mputer: [1]http://www5.= itrc.hp.com/service/patch/wrap.do?pageKey=3Dpatch.jsp.archiveJump&admi t= =3D552267591+1103976356811+28353475 But in my case, what do I need to do? Disabling ACPI in the BIOS doesn't= work. I'm informed (when I reinsert my S-ATA HD) that if I'm running UNIX, I s= hould enable it in the BIOS. But guess what? There are no such options. Believe me I've looked. Does anybody know what's going on? Thanks. Dr. Galvin Hobbes @ FTEG --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up f= or Ads Free at Mail.com [2]http://www.mail.com/?sr=3Dsignup References 1. 3D"http://www5.itrc.hp.com/service/patch/wrap.do?pageKey=3Dpatch= 2. 3D"http://mail01.mail.com/scripts/payment/adtracking.cgi?bannercode= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 12:09:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EBF016A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:09:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2083243D45 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:09:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from wfilter.us4.outblaze.com (wfilter.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.180])704631800135 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:09:57 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.178) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 25 Dec 2004 12:09:57 -0000 Received: by cal1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6012879008E; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:09:57 +0000 (GMT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received: from [213.187.181.70] by cal1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 07:09:57 -0500 From: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 07:09:57 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: cal1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20041225120957.6012879008E@cal1-1.us4.outblaze.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: MAJOR DISFUNCTION! Computer reboots instead of booting FreeBSD! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:09:57 -0000 Dear all of you, My computer (HP Compaq DC7100) refuses to boot to FreeBSD. It enters the= MBR, I then select FreeBSD in the bootloader and the computer reboots! What kind of behavior is thi= s, and why won't it give FreeBSD a chance? I'm aware that some UNIX systems need a patch to work on this type of co= mputer: [1]http://www5.= itrc.hp.com/service/patch/wrap.do?pageKey=3Dpatch.jsp.archiveJump&admi t= =3D552267591+1103976356811+28353475 But in my case, what do I need to do? Disabling ACPI in the BIOS doesn't= work. I'm informed (when I reinsert my S-ATA HD) that if I'm running UNIX, I s= hould enable it in the BIOS. But guess what? There are no such options. Believe me I've looked. Does anybody know what's going on? Thanks. Dr. Galvin Hobbes @ FTEG --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up f= or Ads Free at Mail.com [2]http://www.mail.com/?sr=3Dsignup References 1. 3D"http://www5.itrc.hp.com/service/patch/wrap.do?pageKey=3Dpatch= 2. 3D"http://mail01.mail.com/scripts/payment/adtracking.cgi?bannercode= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 12:45:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9606D16A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:45:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxfep01.bredband.com (mxfep01.bredband.com [195.54.107.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9572643D2D for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:45:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scode@scode-whitestar.mine.nu) Received: from scode-whitestar.mine.nu ([83.226.138.136] [83.226.138.136]) by mxfep01.bredband.com with ESMTP <20041225124538.WBMT18879.mxfep01.bredband.com@scode-whitestar.mine.nu>; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 13:45:38 +0100 Received: by scode-whitestar.mine.nu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C51D117BA76; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 13:53:13 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 13:53:13 +0100 From: Peter Schuller To: "Michael C. Shultz" Message-ID: <20041225125311.GA43679@scode-whitestar.mine.nu> References: <41CBB0D6.6080807@att.net> <200412241125.04925.reso3w83@verizon.net> <20041224235211.GA25610@scode-whitestar.mine.nu> <200412241731.14458.reso3w83@verizon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200412241731.14458.reso3w83@verizon.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: ringworm@inbox.lv cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:45:40 -0000 > Right now portmanager is upgrading kdelibs and I'm still using it. The > only problem that might occur is between the deinstall/reinstall steps > I'll be missing the libraries for about a minute, when this happens I > just wait untill its finished reinstalling then continue. > Here is a recap of what happens: ... > I've been testing this for a year now and haven't had a problem yet > using a program while it is being updated. That does indeed sound perfectly painless. I failed to remember that there is another factor playing into my annoyance with pkg_chk - namely that it seems to remove dependent packages in chunks prior to re-installing them. So the end-result is that the system is completely missing several packages for extended periods of time while a bunch of other packages are being compiled. I don't know why this is done or exactly under what circumstances. But indeed, the way portmanager behaves as you described above sounds a lot better. > Portupgrade has one serious flaw in my opinion and that is running > something like pkgdb -F damages the port installation database as far > as I'm concerned. It causes the data base to say ports were built with > dependency ports that they were never really built with. Portmanager > only addresses that one issue and for the forseeable future that is > where all the focus will be, only on correctly updating ports. Ok. That sounds good. To be honest I have never understood why the dependencies seem to randombly break, requiring a lot of fiddling with pkgdb. I tried portmanager in the past but missed the fact of 'proper' upgrading of entire dependency chains. I will have another go now though. Thanks for the clarifications! -- / Peter Schuller, InfiDyne Technologies HB PGP userID: 0xE9758B7D or 'Peter Schuller ' Key retrieval: Send an E-Mail to getpgpkey@scode.org E-Mail: peter.schuller@infidyne.com Web: http://www.scode.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 13:58:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D0F16A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 13:58:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (ei.xs4all.nl [213.84.67.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6AB043D49 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 13:58:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBPE0nJb092552; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:00:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBPE0nSA092551; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:00:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:00:49 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: Subhro Message-ID: <20041225140049.GA92496@ei.bzerk.org> References: <001e01c4e761$d599b1c0$8b0aa8c0@pichler> <41cd3895.1d4837f8.0a2b.3003@smtp.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41cd3895.1d4837f8.0a2b.3003@smtp.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=failed version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on ei.bzerk.org cc: 'Ricardo Pichler' cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with switch view and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 13:58:23 -0000 On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 03:23:15PM +0530, Subhro typed: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Ricardo Pichler > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 19:05 > > To: questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Problems with switch view and FreeBSD > > > > I've various FreeBSD box running, they are working without keyboard and > > when > > I try connect the keyboard, the system don't respond but the system be > > working. > > > The reason why it is not working for you is, the BIOS of your mother board > does not enable the Keyboard PS2 port till it "sees" the keyboard. Turn off > the autodetection of keyboard from the BIOs and it will work fine. Wrong. He has to edit /boot/device.hints and replace hint.atkbd.0.flags="0x1" by hint.atkbd.0.flags="0" Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 14:02:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF28216A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:02:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from allrounder.lame.at (mail.lame.at [195.58.166.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F40843D1D for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:02:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from haimat@lame.at) Received: from itchy.lame.at (home.lame.at [80.78.254.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by allrounder.lame.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AC6300BD for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:02:05 +0100 (CET) From: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:02:04 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412251502.04879.haimat@lame.at> Subject: Re: Dell CERC SATA 2S question -- software RAID instead? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:02:08 -0000 ---------- quoting Jonathan Reeder ---------- > Since the SATA RAID controller in the Dell PE SC420 isn't supported yet, > is there anything I can do with atacontrol to run my two drives as a > software RAID instead of relying on the controller? > > I've never used SATA before, so any advice anyone can offer is greatly > appreciated. If you're using FreeBSD 5.3 than you should take a look at "man gmirror". This could be what you want. I am using it w/o any problems so far... HTH! Greetings, Matthias -- And remember not to act afraid. Animals can smell fear. And they don't like it. -- Homer Simpson The Call of the Simpsons From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 14:14:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066C616A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:14:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from allrounder.lame.at (mail.softlink.at [195.58.166.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5ACF43D41 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:14:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from haimat@lame.at) Received: from itchy.lame.at (home.lame.at [80.78.254.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by allrounder.lame.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D4A300BD for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:14:03 +0100 (CET) From: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:14:02 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20041222222547.7CBDD43D41@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20041222222547.7CBDD43D41@mx1.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412251514.02633.haimat@lame.at> Subject: Re: Vinum bootable RAID-1 setup help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:14:06 -0000 ---------- quoting Faisal Ali ---------- > I really tried my best to follow the FreeBSD handbook documentation to > setup bootable RAID-1 volume, I just can't seem to understand Section > 17.9.2, Iam working with 5.3 i386 Release. Since I had problems with vinum under 5.3 as well I successfully tried gmirror ("man gmirror") and had no problems with it so far. You can create a bootable RAID1 array with it ... HTH! Greetings, Matthias -- That's weird. It's like something out of that twilighty show about that zone. -- Homer Simpson Treehouse of Horror VI From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 14:43:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9418216A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:43:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from redtick.homeunix.com (adsl-67-67-15-167.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net [67.67.15.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D37943D45 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:43:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from boxend@redtick.homeunix.com) Received: from redtick.homeunix.com (localhost.homeunix.com [127.0.0.1]) by redtick.homeunix.com (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBPEgdUG093452 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:42:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from boxend@redtick.homeunix.com) Received: (from boxend@localhost) by redtick.homeunix.com (8.13.1/8.12.10/Submit) id iBPEgdQx093451 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:42:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from boxend) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:42:39 -0600 (CST) From: Mark Message-Id: <200412251442.iBPEgdQx093451@redtick.homeunix.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Freebsd non-profit stat OT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:43:36 -0000 I was looking at the bsd site and noticed the Quarterly Report was out, and in this report it states we are in danger of losing the non-profit status. Please read this report. http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/press/20041221-newsletter.shtml From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 14:46:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4851C16A4CE; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:46:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BD043D46; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:46:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20041225144626i9100rfuvme>; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:46:33 +0000 Message-ID: <41CD7D41.4070206@nbritton.org> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:46:25 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Colin J. Raven" References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> <20041224142246.GB779@gothmog.gr> <41CC9DE0.6010500@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org cc: Giorgos Keramidas cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:46:34 -0000 Colin J. Raven wrote: > On Dec 25, Dag-Erling Smrgrav launched this into the bitstream: > >> Chris writes: >> >>> One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to >>> drive the car. >> >> >> One should not criticize the design of an engine while vehemently >> claiming to have no interest in how enginges are built. > > > One should not buy a car without at least knowing the general specs of > the engine. One should not buy a car without at least looking under the hood, kicking the tires, and taking it for a test drive. Merry Christmas, Nikolas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 14:47:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7795F16A4CF for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:47:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from h2o.riss-telecom.ru (h2o.riss-telecom.ru [80.66.66.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0EDDC43D46 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:47:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ten-nsk@nsk.ru) Received: (qmail 39403 invoked from network); 25 Dec 2004 14:47:24 -0000 Received: from poligon.lhs.nsk.su (HELO automotive.vpn.plhs) (80.66.72.37) by h2o.riss-telecom.ru with SMTP; 25 Dec 2004 14:47:24 -0000 Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 20:50:20 +0600 From: ten-nsk@nsk.ru X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.11) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1956586044.20041225205020@ngs.ru> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ten-nsk@nsk.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:47:35 -0000 Hello. There is one question, when you planning add hardware support Allied Telesyn AT2700 series network adapters ? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 15:44:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D0E16A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:44:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE01443D46 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:44:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20041225154413i92002b3fne>; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:44:14 +0000 Message-ID: <41CD8ACC.7070504@nbritton.org> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:44:12 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark References: <200412251442.iBPEgdQx093451@redtick.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <200412251442.iBPEgdQx093451@redtick.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd non-profit stat OT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:44:15 -0000 Mark wrote: >I was looking at the bsd site and noticed the Quarterly Report was out, and in this report >it states we are in danger of losing the non-profit status. Please read this report. > >http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/press/20041221-newsletter.shtml > > > Yes, I saw that yesterday, they need to rise $30,400, the max for any single person or entity is $8000 to meet the required 1/3rd rule. My only question is why they waited till now to raise 30 grand, someone dropped the ball on this one. Sent them your money and do it fast (umm like today) as the deadline is 6 day's away: The FreeBSD Foundation accepts donations via check: The FreeBSD Foundation 7321 Brockway Dr. Boulder, CO 80303 or PayPal: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donating.shtml Checks must be postmarked by December 31st. to count toward the advanced ruling period. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 17:21:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E851E16A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:21:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.concepts.nl (smtp-4.concepts.nl [213.197.30.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0245043D1F for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:21:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pharmsen@horizon.nl) Received: from [213.148.230.146] (helo=tobaccofarm) by smtp.concepts.nl with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1CiFbE-0003vU-Aa for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:21:04 +0100 Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:23:09 +0100 From: Peter Harmsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041225182309.3bc5cf86@tobaccofarm> Organization: cia X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12a (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: glxgears X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:21:15 -0000 I have a FreeBSD box on a Elitegroup K7S5A mobo with a Asus TI4200 AGP 8x graphics card and AMD 512 MB sdram XP2000+ CPU.I get 3600 FPS with glxgears after i recompiled the kernel without agp and tweaked the Nvidia driver source a little.On a Linux box with AMD XP2500+ CPU with 1024 MB ddr and FX5700 card i only get 3200 FPS with glxgears.Quite remarkable to say the least. Does anyone have a clue why this could have happened? Merry Christmas and a good NewYear to everybody! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 24 18:46:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112B916A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:46:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay15-dav12.bay15.hotmail.com [65.54.184.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E354843D49 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:46:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pedramxp@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:46:00 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 213.165.97.116 by BAY15-DAV12.phx.gbl with DAV; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:45:28 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [213.165.97.116] X-Originating-Email: [pedramxp@hotmail.com] X-Sender: pedramxp@hotmail.com From: "pedram" To: Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:15:03 +0330 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Dec 2004 18:46:00.0504 (UTC) FILETIME=[D0074B80:01C4E9E8] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:49:24 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: I am new User X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:46:01 -0000 Hi I want Learn FreeBSD but I am New in Unix Platform. I have MCSE and CCNA Certification and I am Administrator in an ISP and = some companies. I was Download FreeBSD 5.3 Which books or sites you suggest me to learn? Thank you Pedram Akbari From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 17:32:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FB516A4CE; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:32:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E91343D41; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:32:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE73C46DD1; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:32:00 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: 52he+bui21DHUfR5j0MAAw 1103995919 Received: from sparky (dhcp-parkland-114-2575-152.msns.sm.ptd.net [24.229.114.177]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B843A570147; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:31:56 -0500 (EST) To: "Ceri Davies" , "Nikolas Britton" , "Paul Richards" , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, "Daniel Blendea" , freebsd-www@freebsd.org, jsha , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <20041224054000.GL19624@funkthat.com> <20041225002511.GC7445@submonkey.net> Message-ID: From: Jud Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:31:55 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20041225002511.GC7445@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Opera M2(BETA1)/8.00 (Linux, build 904) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:49:24 +0000 Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:32:03 -0000 On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:25:11 +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > Matt Seaman posted a link to a crappy > "here is what CSS can do" mockup that I posted to doc@ just before the > commit mentioned above - it's at > http://shrike.submonkey.net/~ceri/data2/index.html (be sure to let all > the images load - this is on a slow link - and be aware that it doesn't > work properly in IE for reasons that DES mentioned elsewhere). Hey, that's rather cute (in Linux-Opera). Looking forward to further developments. Re fonts, the Bitstream Vera set is very nice. It's available as a port - suppose there's no pressing reason to include it in the base (it's reasonably small)? Jud From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 17:59:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F4F16A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:59:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B10D43D1D for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:59:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jayobrien@worldnet.att.net) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (dsl093-180-184.sac1.dsl.speakeasy.net[66.93.180.184]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with ESMTP id <2004122517592911200mhm1ie> (Authid: jayobrien@att.net); Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:59:33 +0000 Message-ID: <41CDAA82.4010300@att.net> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:59:30 -0800 From: Jay O'Brien User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <41CC8FFC.2030009@att.net> <41CC9120.6070105@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: <41CC9120.6070105@scii.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: portupgrade time, xorg ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:59:49 -0000 albi wrote: > Jay O'Brien wrote: > > hi, > > >>Running FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p2 #0, i386 P3-667MHz, 512MB RAM. > > ----- cut for brevity -------- > >>-I didn't install xorg. Why are the 16 xorg ports present? > > > a fresh FreeBSD 5.3 has xorg by default instead of XFree86 > So X is installed by default whether or not I wish to use X? Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 18:04:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F1D16A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:04:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from enterprise.thenetnow.com (enterprise.thenetnow.com [65.39.193.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B0943D39 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:04:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from GRANT (hpeel.ody.ca [216.240.12.2])iBPI4SG20311 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 13:04:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Message-ID: <003301c4eaac$2f4c71b0$6401a8c0@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 13:04:29 -0500 Organization: The Net Now MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: fstab -b X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Grant Peel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:04:33 -0000 I have been reading in man fstab that the bg switch is depriciated, but I am not sure i understand the correct usage of the -b switch .. anyone? -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 18:08:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A167716A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:08:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (fia148-72.dsl.hccnet.nl [62.251.72.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F3E43D46 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:08:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id iBPFgSD04466; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 16:42:29 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 16:42:28 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Peter Harmsen In-Reply-To: <20041225182309.3bc5cf86@tobaccofarm> Message-ID: References: <20041225182309.3bc5cf86@tobaccofarm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: glxgears X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:08:50 -0000 On Dec 25, Peter Harmsen launched this into the bitstream: > I have a FreeBSD box on a Elitegroup K7S5A mobo with a Asus TI4200 AGP 8x graphics card and AMD 512 MB sdram XP2000+ CPU.I get 3600 FPS with glxgears after i recompiled the kernel without agp and tweaked the Nvidia driver source a little.On a Linux box with AMD XP2500+ CPU with 1024 MB ddr and FX5700 card i only get 3200 FPS with glxgears.Quite remarkable to say the least. > > > Does anyone have a clue why this could have happened? In a word - "no" but - to be scrupulously fair - that could be due to the ingestion of enormous qty's of food, wine, beer & raki That isn't what you wanted to hear - I know [burp] [THUD} From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 18:09:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87BA616A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:09:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.uol.com.br (smtpout3.uol.com.br [200.221.4.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D858043D45 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:09:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from giulianocm@uol.com.br) Received: from [201.1.132.98] (unknown [201.1.132.98]) by scorpion3.uol.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332788077; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 16:09:46 -0200 (BRST) Message-ID: <41CDACE1.1080201@uol.com.br> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 16:09:37 -0200 From: Giuliano Cardozo Medalha Organization: WZTECH User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pedram References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I am new User X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: giulianocm@uol.com.br List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:09:50 -0000 Pedram, The best first reference about FreeBSD (in my opinion) is their own hadnbook. Take a look that: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ It is a complete reference to install and use it. After read it ... if you have any more questions ... post it to the list. Have you did the "download" of the FreeBSD 5.3 first CD from Freebsd.org ? ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/5.3/5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso The CD1 is enought for you to install it. Be welcome !!! Att, Giuliano From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 18:12:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E4916A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:12:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postbode02.zonnet.nl (postbode02.zonnet.nl [62.58.50.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5846D43D2F for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:12:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from f.staals@zonnet.nl) Received: (qmail 28064 invoked by uid 10); 25 Dec 2004 18:12:14 -0000 Received: (vexira-qq 28052-B84197B4 invoked from network) 25 Dec 2004 19:12:13 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.2]) ([62.59.173.176]) (envelope-sender ) by postbode02.zonnet.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 25 Dec 2004 18:12:13 -0000 Message-ID: <41CDBB80.9010908@zonnet.nl> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 19:12:00 +0000 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041109) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <41CC8FFC.2030009@att.net> <41CC9120.6070105@scii.nl> <41CDAA82.4010300@att.net> In-Reply-To: <41CDAA82.4010300@att.net> X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira MailArmor (version: 2.0.1.16; VAE: 6.29.0.5; VDF: 6.29.0.34; host: postbode02.zonnet.nl) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade time, xorg ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:12:16 -0000 Jay O'Brien wrote: >albi wrote: > > > >>Jay O'Brien wrote: >> >>hi, >> >> >> >> >>>Running FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p2 #0, i386 P3-667MHz, 512MB RAM. >>> >>> >>----- cut for brevity -------- >> >> >> >>>-I didn't install xorg. Why are the 16 xorg ports present? >>> >>> >>a fresh FreeBSD 5.3 has xorg by default instead of XFree86 >> >> >> > >So X is installed by default whether or not I wish to use X? > >Jay > > > No, FreeBSD prior to 5.3 had XFree86 as X-server, but since XFree86 changed their licenses FreeBSD switched to X.org. If you installed X.org depends on what install you choose. If you choose 'minimal install' you don't have X.org installed ( if you didn't do it yourself later ) but if you choose 'X-user' or anything like that you do have X.org. You can check it by running 'pkg_info | grep xorg. If you get something like this you have installed X.org: bash-3.00$ pkg_info | grep xorg xorg-clients-6.7.0_4 X client programs and related files from X.Org xorg-documents-6.7.0 Documentation of X11 protocol and libraries from X.Org xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.7.0 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.7.0 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.7.0 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-encodings-6.7.0 X.Org font encoding files xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.7.0 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-truetype-6.7.0 X.Org TrueType fonts xorg-fonts-type1-6.7.0 X.Org Type1 fonts xorg-fontserver-6.7.0 X font server from X.Org xorg-libraries-6.7.0_2 X11 libraries and headers from X.Org xorg-manpages-6.7.0 X.Org library manual pages xorg-server-6.7.0_9 X.Org X server and related programs xorg-vfbserver-6.7.0 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org Merry X-mas btw :) >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 18:14:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3FB16A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:14:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7843543D1D for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:14:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jayobrien@worldnet.att.net) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (dsl093-180-184.sac1.dsl.speakeasy.net[66.93.180.184]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with ESMTP id <20041225181434113005otnde> (Authid: jayobrien@att.net); Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:14:34 +0000 Message-ID: <41CDAE0A.6060208@att.net> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 10:14:34 -0800 From: Jay O'Brien User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD - questions References: <41CC8FFC.2030009@att.net> <20041224221249.GA59227@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20041224221249.GA59227@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: portupgrade time, xorg ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:14:36 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 01:54:04PM -0800, Jay O'Brien wrote: > > >>I ran portupgrade -a -N -vu -rR, and it tried several times >>to fetch X11R6.8.1-src1.tar.gz, each time taking over an hour, >>and when the file failed, it failed showing a checksum mismatch. > > >>I tried it again today, and it was able to fetch the three >>remaining files. SLOW. I have a DSL connection, and usually >>see 1.5MB speeds or more. Two of the files came in at 6kBps, >>one at 26 kBps. This Portupgrade session, including downloading >>the files detailed below, took 3 hours and 38 minutes; 1.5 hours >>was spent just downloading the three files. >> >>>From the script file of the session: >>=> X11R6.8.1-src(#).tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in >>/usr/ports/distfiles/xorg. >>=> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R6.8.1/tars/ >> >>files fetched and time for download: >>file size end speed time >>X11R6.8.1-src1.tar.gz 29MB 6510 Bps 80 min >>X11R6.8.1-src6.tar.gz 3106kB 6298 Bps 8 min >>X11R6.8.1-src2.tar.gz 5672kB 26 kBps 4 min >> >>I have two questions: >> >>-Is this typical to see such slow download speeds > > > Sometimes; it's not unusual for a popular ftp site to be heavily > loaded. There are various variables you can set to control fetching > from different sites; see the ports(7) manpage and the comments in > bsd.port.mk. > Wow. And after I decode that somehow I have to know an alternate site. It appeared to me that as it was fetching from x.org (see above) that the ftp site was not something I could change. 6500 Bps is much slower than an ancient dialup connection; a big waste of time, it appeared, as I am not using X at all. > >>and for the >> portupgrade process to take so much time? > > > X is a large set of applications, so it's going to take a little while > to compile it all :-) > > >>-I didn't install xorg. Why are the 16 xorg ports present? > > > I don't understand what you're asking here. In my install of FreeBSD I did not select any flavor of X at all, and I would like to learn why it was installed "by default". > > Kris Thanks for your answer, it has pointed me at more things I didn't know were there that I have to learn about. Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 18:16:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144E916A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:16:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out007.verizon.net (out007pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A7543D1D for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:16:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reso3w83@verizon.net) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.26.84.7]) by out007.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041225181619.IEDH27681.out007.verizon.net@ringworm.mechee.com> for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:16:19 -0600 Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5FEFB2CE740; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 10:13:27 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 10:13:25 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <41CBB0D6.6080807@att.net> <200412241731.14458.reso3w83@verizon.net> <20041225125311.GA43679@scode-whitestar.mine.nu> In-Reply-To: <20041225125311.GA43679@scode-whitestar.mine.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412251013.26800.reso3w83@verizon.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out007.verizon.net from [4.26.84.7] at Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:16:19 -0600 Subject: Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:16:21 -0000 On Saturday 25 December 2004 04:53 am, Peter Schuller wrote: > > Right now portmanager is upgrading kdelibs and I'm still using it. > > The only problem that might occur is between the > > deinstall/reinstall steps I'll be missing the libraries for about a > > minute, when this happens I just wait untill its finished > > reinstalling then continue. > > Here is a recap of what happens: > > ... > > > I've been testing this for a year now and haven't had a problem yet > > using a program while it is being updated. > > That does indeed sound perfectly painless. I failed to remember that > there is another factor playing into my annoyance with pkg_chk - > namely that it seems to remove dependent packages in chunks prior to > re-installing them. So the end-result is that the system is > completely missing several packages for extended periods of time > while a bunch of other packages are being compiled. > > I don't know why this is done or exactly under what circumstances. > But indeed, the way portmanager behaves as you described above sounds > a lot better. > > > Portupgrade has one serious flaw in my opinion and that is running > > something like pkgdb -F damages the port installation database as > > far as I'm concerned. It causes the data base to say ports were > > built with dependency ports that they were never really built > > with. Portmanager only addresses that one issue and for the > > forseeable future that is where all the focus will be, only on > > correctly updating ports. > > Ok. That sounds good. To be honest I have never understood why the > dependencies seem to randombly break, requiring a lot of fiddling > with pkgdb. > > I tried portmanager in the past but missed the fact of 'proper' > upgrading of entire dependency chains. I will have another go now > though. Thanks for the clarifications! Thanks for giving portmanager a try! Right now it is having a problem with conflicting ports (like some of the linux base ports) where portupgrade can alter the dependencies portmanager gets a little confused so you have to resolve the conflicts manually. That should be resolved in portmanager ver 0.2.2. -Mike manually if they occur. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 18:19:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C7916A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:19:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out012.verizon.net (out012pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE74543D46 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:19:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reso3w83@verizon.net) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.26.84.7]) by out012.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041225181900.OXFZ10436.out012.verizon.net@ringworm.mechee.com> for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:19:00 -0600 Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 072C52CE740; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 10:16:10 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 10:16:09 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412251016.09715.reso3w83@verizon.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out012.verizon.net from [4.26.84.7] at Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:19:00 -0600 Subject: Re: I am new User X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:19:01 -0000 On Friday 24 December 2004 10:45 am, pedram wrote: > Hi > > I want Learn FreeBSD but I am New in Unix Platform. > > I have MCSE and CCNA Certification and I am Administrator in an ISP > and some companies. > > I was Download FreeBSD 5.3 > > Which books or sites you suggest me to learn? > > > > Thank you > > Pedram Akbari http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html Say what country you are from and maybe there is a copy of the handbook in your language. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 18:20:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C93116A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:20:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E034C43D46 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:20:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth03.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1CiGWO-0001Nw-JS; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 13:20:08 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:21:07 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200412251221.07181.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc83613867836d8cb027e3842d4c78babe350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: pedram Subject: Re: I am new User X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:20:09 -0000 On Friday 24 December 2004 12:45 pm, pedram wrote: > Hi > > I want Learn FreeBSD but I am New in Unix Platform. > > I have MCSE and CCNA Certification and I am Administrator in an ISP > and some companies. > > I was Download FreeBSD 5.3 > > Which books or sites you suggest me to learn? > > > > Thank you > > Pedram Akbari The FAQ and handbook are good places to start: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html A search at Amazon.com should give you a good list of available books, regardless of where or how you choose to purchase them. Once the system is installed, you'll want to do stuff. There are good how-to's located online at: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/ct/15 http://www.freebsddiary.org/topics.php Online forums are also good resources: http://www.freebsdforums.org/forums/ And don't forget that you can search the FreeBSD email list archives: http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists Best regards, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 18:29:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE61C16A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:29:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A0E43D31 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:29:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jayobrien@worldnet.att.net) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (dsl093-180-184.sac1.dsl.speakeasy.net[66.93.180.184]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with ESMTP id <20041225182926113005p3m4e> (Authid: jayobrien@att.net); Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:29:26 +0000 Message-ID: <41CDB185.3050209@att.net> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 10:29:25 -0800 From: Jay O'Brien User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <41CC8FFC.2030009@att.net> <41CC9120.6070105@scii.nl> <41CDAA82.4010300@att.net> <41CDBB80.9010908@zonnet.nl> In-Reply-To: <41CDBB80.9010908@zonnet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: portupgrade time, xorg ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:29:27 -0000 Frank Staals wrote: > Jay O'Brien wrote: > > >>albi wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>Jay O'Brien wrote: >>> >>>hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Running FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p2 #0, i386 P3-667MHz, 512MB RAM. >>>> >>>> >>> >>>----- cut for brevity -------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>-I didn't install xorg. Why are the 16 xorg ports present? >>>> >>>> >>> >>>a fresh FreeBSD 5.3 has xorg by default instead of XFree86 >>> >>> >>> >> >>So X is installed by default whether or not I wish to use X? >> >>Jay >> >> >> > > No, FreeBSD prior to 5.3 had XFree86 as X-server, but since XFree86 > changed their licenses FreeBSD switched to X.org. If you installed X.org > depends on what install you choose. If you choose 'minimal install' you > don't have X.org installed ( if you didn't do it yourself later ) but if > you choose 'X-user' or anything like that you do have X.org. You can > check it by running 'pkg_info | grep xorg. If you get something like > this you have installed X.org: > > bash-3.00$ pkg_info | grep xorg > xorg-clients-6.7.0_4 X client programs and related files from X.Org > xorg-documents-6.7.0 Documentation of X11 protocol and libraries from X.Org > xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.7.0 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts > xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.7.0 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts > xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.7.0 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts > xorg-fonts-encodings-6.7.0 X.Org font encoding files > xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.7.0 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts > xorg-fonts-truetype-6.7.0 X.Org TrueType fonts > xorg-fonts-type1-6.7.0 X.Org Type1 fonts > xorg-fontserver-6.7.0 X font server from X.Org > xorg-libraries-6.7.0_2 X11 libraries and headers from X.Org > xorg-manpages-6.7.0 X.Org library manual pages > xorg-server-6.7.0_9 X.Org X server and related programs > xorg-vfbserver-6.7.0 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org > > Merry X-mas btw :) > > Frank, That's what I have. I *Thought* I had not selected X, but your words caused me to review my installation notes. My face is *red*. I did select "All system sources, binaries and X window system". My intent with this computer is for it to be a web and mail server; when I did the install I probably accepted the X because someday I want to run Mozilla for local html viewing. I sure didn't know the consequences of that selection! But it is there, so it will stay. Thanks for answering my question. X is there because I asked for it! And Merry Christmas to you too! Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 18:42:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E2516A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:42:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usw2.natel.net (2b.bz [209.152.117.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8162A43D46 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:42:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 37315 invoked from network); 25 Dec 2004 18:42:22 -0000 Received: from batv-01-010.dialup.netins.net (HELO Htebazile.US-Webmasters.com) (216.248.109.11) by us-webmasters.com with SMTP; 25 Dec 2004 18:42:22 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20041225123939.06215930@209.152.117.178> X-Sender: wd@209.152.117.178 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:41:46 -0600 To: "pedram" From: "W. D." In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I am new User X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:42:27 -0000 At 12:45 12/24/2004, pedram wrote: >Hi > >I want Learn FreeBSD but I am New in Unix Platform. > >I have MCSE and CCNA Certification and I am Administrator in an ISP and= some=20 >companies. > >I was Download FreeBSD 5.3 > >Which books or sites you suggest me to learn? http://www.US-Webmasters.com/FreeBSD/Install/ Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 18:53:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD9D16A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:53:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E62D43D1F for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:53:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A835C46953 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 13:53:46 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: GxUZUHTc1xc7Hp0VbuFd7w 1104000824 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-42-222.access.uk.tiscali.com [80.41.42.222]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C6D2553F for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 13:53:44 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:53:44 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <41CC8FFC.2030009@att.net> In-Reply-To: <41CC8FFC.2030009@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412251853.45210.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: portupgrade time, xorg ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:53:47 -0000 On Friday 24 December 2004 21:54, Jay O'Brien wrote: > Running FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p2 #0, i386 P3-667MHz, 512MB RAM. > > This is my first experience using portupgrade. > > I ran cvsup successfully for ports-all. I ran pkg_version -v. > It showed a total of 28 ports, 20 needed updating. Of those, > 16 were xorg- ports; the others were xterm, freetype2, imake > and png. > > I ran portupgrade -a -N -vu -rR, and it tried several times You dont need the -N switch, it's only used for new port installations, not upgrades. Using it carelessly is a bit dangerous, you may find youself installing ports you don't want. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 19:56:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3703E16A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 19:56:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web42101.mail.yahoo.com (web42101.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 04B7543D55 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 19:56:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ssy5@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 16925 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Dec 2004 19:56:30 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=ActbYsKEduFoBlAoR2AmsQ6t+zkeSKgwSBfpDr4D5lK50pvIPmjv22v8QFRvsBuI2dQvyE4Ri3jjUTwqsb9jlYTEOqrJd0s2Fm/AOoHHktlXSUKua45v6KBuX/eMN+8OEfvGLgbux0Ji73HdVdNQPcGm6nEkWh8oeRSmQFxK57Y= ; Message-ID: <20041225195630.16923.qmail@web42101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.161.28.97] by web42101.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 11:56:30 PST Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 11:56:30 -0800 (PST) From: Shahar Yuval To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Netgear MA111 wifi card with Project Evil X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 19:56:31 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to use my Netgear MA111 wireless USB card in FreeBSD. As I understand, FreeBSD's wi module does not support it (OpenBSD's does). Therefore, I decided to check out NDISulator ("Project Evil"). I followed the instructions in the FreeBSD Handbook, installed ndis, ndiscvt, copied my Windows drivers and complied if_ndis. However, when I tried to load if_ndis, I got the following error message: link_elf: symbol ndis_set_info undefined and the module is not loaded. Someone apparently already ran into this problem: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-June/028753.html and received the following response: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-June/028783.html I speculate that perhaps if_ndis expects inf and sys files from a PCI/Cardbus card and not a USB one. I'd appreciate your assistance in getting the card to work. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 19:58:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456C216A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 19:58:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD80743D39 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 19:58:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jayobrien@worldnet.att.net) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (dsl093-180-184.sac1.dsl.speakeasy.net[66.93.180.184]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with ESMTP id <2004122519580411100j7tj1e> (Authid: jayobrien@att.net); Sat, 25 Dec 2004 19:58:04 +0000 Message-ID: <41CDC64B.5030303@att.net> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 11:58:03 -0800 From: Jay O'Brien User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41CC8FFC.2030009@att.net> <200412251853.45210.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> In-Reply-To: <200412251853.45210.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: portupgrade time, xorg ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 19:58:12 -0000 RW wrote: > On Friday 24 December 2004 21:54, Jay O'Brien wrote: > >>Running FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p2 #0, i386 P3-667MHz, 512MB RAM. >> >>This is my first experience using portupgrade. >> >>I ran cvsup successfully for ports-all. I ran pkg_version -v. >>It showed a total of 28 ports, 20 needed updating. Of those, >>16 were xorg- ports; the others were xterm, freetype2, imake >>and png. >> >>I ran portupgrade -a -N -vu -rR, and it tried several times > > > You dont need the -N switch, it's only used for new port installations, not > upgrades. Using it carelessly is a bit dangerous, you may find youself > installing ports you don't want. Thanks, I wasn't sure about that. I saw an example that used -N and followed it. I'm not clear on what -N really does, but for now I just won't use it! Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 20:09:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F19516A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 20:09:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E4343D41 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 20:09:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jayobrien@worldnet.att.net) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (dsl093-180-184.sac1.dsl.speakeasy.net[66.93.180.184]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with ESMTP id <2004122520091311100j7s77e> (Authid: jayobrien@att.net); Sat, 25 Dec 2004 20:09:13 +0000 Message-ID: <41CDC8E8.6010704@att.net> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:09:12 -0800 From: Jay O'Brien User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD - questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: web server permissions question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 20:09:14 -0000 I think this is a permissions issue. I just installed Apache13, and it works fine on my LAN using a fixed local IP. I opened port 80 in my Linksys router, and from the internet I can now get to my home page over the internet, using my fixed IP. >From my local LAN I can use links on my home page to display html files in directories under the directory where my home page lives. However, from over the internet I can only get to my home page. Except, I can go to IP/manual/ and apache shows me the apache manual pages by virtue of an alias in httpd.conf. So, I know it is possible to access other web pages via the internet connection; I just don't know how to allow access to my subdirectories. Jay O'Brien Rio Linda, California USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 20:32:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B3B16A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 20:32:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay15-f37.bay15.hotmail.com [65.54.185.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD6B43D2D for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 20:32:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdagee@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:32:00 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 68.185.36.149 by by15fd.bay15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 20:31:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.185.36.149] X-Originating-Email: [kdagee@hotmail.com] X-Sender: kdagee@hotmail.com From: "Karl Agee" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:31:12 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Dec 2004 20:32:00.0455 (UTC) FILETIME=[C9448D70:01C4EAC0] Subject: gnome-cd: cant connect to cddb server--resolved X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 20:32:01 -0000 I had posted earlier that I couldnt pull down cd info from the cddb server when playing music cd's. I did a lot more googling and found that: 1) gnome-cd uses a program called cddbslave2 to fetch info from the cddb servers; 2) cddbslave2 uses ftp through port 888 to request this info. so I poked a hole in my firewall for tcp on port 888 and it works..... --Karl _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 21:06:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8100616A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 21:06:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from viefep13-int.chello.at (viefep13-int.chello.at [213.46.255.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492A043D55 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 21:06:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor.kovesdan@freemail.hu) Received: from hyperduron ([80.99.33.169]) by viefep13-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.6.01.03.05 201-2131-111-107-20040910) with ESMTP id <20041225210631.YLZG26451.viefep13-int.chello.at@hyperduron> for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 22:06:31 +0100 From: "=?iso-8859-2?B?S/Z2ZXNk4W4gR+Fib3I=?=" To: Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 22:06:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcTqxZ1pdy6WDg9USJGn00BnKcfuXQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-Id: <20041225210631.YLZG26451.viefep13-int.chello.at@hyperduron> Subject: Partitioning issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gabor.kovesdan@freemail.hu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 21:06:34 -0000 Hi, I tried to install FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE on an amd64 system, which have got a RAID5 array, consisting of 3 disks. Thus the entire hd capacity is about 300GB, but the installer was unable to create a partition, that was bigger than some mbytes. The cd is not an official disk, I created this, but I could install it on my machine (without raid). The kernel was a simple GENERIC kernel. Please help me, I'm very afraid of this issue, because I must administer this server and it must be okay in two weeks. Thanx, Merry XMas, Gabor Kovesdan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 21:12:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6990416A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 21:12:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186FA43D54 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 21:12:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BE7C45E40; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 16:12:37 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: qbqhJR+ZGgRr/hetoRXtwQ 1104009155 Received: from sparky (dhcp-parkland-114-2575-152.msns.sm.ptd.net [24.229.114.177]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85803247F3; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 16:12:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 16:12:35 -0500 To: "Jay O'Brien" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41CC8FFC.2030009@att.net> <200412251853.45210.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <41CDC64B.5030303@att.net> From: Jud Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <41CDC64B.5030303@att.net> User-Agent: Opera M2(BETA1)/8.00 (Linux, build 908) Subject: Re: portupgrade time, xorg ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 21:12:40 -0000 On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 11:58:03 -0800, Jay O'Brien wrote: [snip] >>> I ran portupgrade -a -N -vu -rR, and it tried several times >> >> >> You dont need the -N switch, it's only used for new port installations, >> not >> upgrades. Using it carelessly is a bit dangerous, you may find youself >> installing ports you don't want. > > > Thanks, I wasn't sure about that. I saw an example that used -N > and followed it. I'm not clear on what -N really does, but for > now I just won't use it! While the manual (man) pages aren't always crystal clear, the one for portupgrade is actually pretty good at explaining what all those letter options are for. Just type at the prompt: $ man portupgrade You'll have a much better idea of what the options do and which ones you want to use for a given situation. Jud From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 21:53:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A77F816A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 21:53:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610D643D4C for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 21:53:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D8C9F56457; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 10:53:22 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 10:53:22 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: James Message-ID: <20041225215322.GE3143@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <20041224065512.29367.qmail@rahul.net> <200412240326.16142.james@idea-anvil.net> <20041224161643.GA40553@ei.bzerk.org> <200412241729.06087.james@idea-anvil.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200412241729.06087.james@idea-anvil.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail running on localhost 25? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 21:53:24 -0000 On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 05:29:05PM -0700, James wrote: > On Friday 24 December 2004 09:16 am, Ruben de Groot wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 03:26:15AM -0700, James typed: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Use: > > > sendmail_enable="none" > > > > > > This will disable all sendmail processes. > > > > This will also disable those annoying daily, weekly and montly > > messages recieved from cronjobs. > > > > Who wants to read about your disks filling up, attempts to break into > > your server and other futilities anyway ;-) > > Thanks for the heads up on that.... Is there a way to make cron use something > other then sendmail? If you specify in /etc/periodic.conf: daily_output="/var/log/daily.log" weekly_output="/var/log/weekly.log" monthly_output="/var/log/monthly.log" The logs from periodic will go to those files instead. -- Jonathan Chen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "One, with God, is always a majority, but many a martyr has been burned at the stake while the votes were being counted." -- Thomas B. Reed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 22:48:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D366416A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 22:48:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E7B43D39 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 22:48:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leonmk@optonline.net) Received: from D1TWQX41 (ool-18b93da2.dyn.optonline.net [24.185.61.162]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with SMTP id <0I9A00KSWVCMD5@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:48:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:48:20 -0500 From: Leon To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <000801c4ead3$d4c49ab0$a23db918@D1TWQX41> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: create device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 22:48:24 -0000 Hi, I have 5.3 "BSD". I'm trying to create device with command "MAKEDEV" But this command is not recognizable. Which command can I use to create device? Thanks, Leon. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 23:31:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0294E16A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 23:31:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.mail.ru (mx2.mail.ru [194.67.23.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955A443D3F for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 23:31:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@mail.ru) Received: from [83.237.208.250] (port=1308 helo=[172.17.0.69]) by mx2.mail.ru with esmtp id 1CiLNw-000Fmi-00; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 02:31:44 +0300 Message-ID: <41CDF85E.6070908@mail.ru> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 02:31:42 +0300 From: "Andrew P." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikolas Britton References: <200412251442.iBPEgdQx093451@redtick.homeunix.com> <41CD8ACC.7070504@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: <41CD8ACC.7070504@nbritton.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd non-profit stat OT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: infofarmer@mail.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 23:31:47 -0000 Nikolas Britton wrote: > Mark wrote: > >> I was looking at the bsd site and noticed the Quarterly Report was >> out, and in this report >> it states we are in danger of losing the non-profit status. Please >> read this report. >> >> http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/press/20041221-newsletter.shtml >> >> >> > Yes, I saw that yesterday, they need to rise $30,400, the max for any > single person or entity is $8000 to meet the required 1/3rd rule. My > only question is why they waited till now to raise 30 grand, someone > dropped the ball on this one. Sent them your money and do it fast (umm > like today) as the deadline is 6 day's away: > > > The FreeBSD Foundation accepts donations via check: > > The FreeBSD Foundation > 7321 Brockway Dr. > Boulder, CO 80303 > > or PayPal: > > http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donating.shtml > > Checks must be postmarked by December 31st. to count toward the > advanced ruling period. > Could they finally work out some new ways of payment? I'm from Russia - I can't use Paypal and I can hardly get any checks. I supported Mozilla foundation with my Visa card, and I'd like it very much to send a few bucks to FreeBSD every now and again. Popularity is a big deal. I could never understand why this organization (not community) was not aiming at getting more users and supporters. I mean, this is the best OS I've ever seen. And while I don't even remember how or when I first heard about it, I'm sure there are thousands out there, who'd be glad to become FreeBSD fans, but they just don't know anything about it. Just put a few nice pictures and screenshots on the website, and people will get attracted. Same thing with money. I don't want to order your CD's, cuz they can get lost on their way, and if they don't, I won't be expecting them until 50 days pass (that's how long I'd waited for The Complete FreeBSD until it came). I just want to pay, say, $10 a month with a Visa card. Not much, but I'm not alone. Look at Firefox - a much smaller project can raise $100k in a week. Can't we? Best wishes, Andrew P.