From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 17 02:44:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F14716A41C for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 02:44:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sten@blinkenlights.nl) Received: from ford.blinkenlights.nl (ford.blinkenlights.nl [213.204.211.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C1F43D46 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 02:44:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sten@blinkenlights.nl) Received: from tea.blinkenlights.nl (tea.blinkenlights.nl [192.168.1.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ford.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359E43F294; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 04:44:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: by tea.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix, from userid 101) id CA17727D; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 04:44:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tea.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8249276; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 04:44:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 04:44:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Sten Spans To: ticso@cicely.de In-Reply-To: <20050716194553.GO7597@cicely12.cicely.de> Message-ID: References: <20050716143914.GA13431@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20050716194553.GO7597@cicely12.cicely.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DS15 (was Re: Alpha vs. FreeBSD 5.4 vs. X) X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 02:44:57 -0000 On Sat, 16 Jul 2005, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 08:44:08PM +0200, Sten Spans wrote: >> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005, Wilko Bulte wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 01:03:24AM +0200, Sten Spans wrote.. >>>> On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Richard Loken wrote: >> It wont solve the more complex issues like: >> - 2-4gb+ memory support > > In progress - ENOTIME catched me a few times. > An AS4100 with 5.5G memory reminds me everyday about this. > I'm currently about to prepare first commits to get infrastructure in. > That is having all machine types tell about their direct map size and > pointers to architecuture dependend map functions. Cool, please notify the list when the code goes in. >> - vga on different hoses > > There are very special things going on. > Even on i386 there are many troubles if a card wasn't intilized with > VGA emulation. This is indeed, almost impossible to integrate cleanly into the freebsd source code. The funny thing is that the ds15 is the only box which needs these tricks, because the bigger boxen have hose 0 and 1 active and usable. It would be a bit silly to fuck over the source tree for hardware which is almost unobtainable and extremely expensive (8000$). Which is why I would applaud someone for doing it :} >> - pci bridge chip breakage > > Generally speaking PCI bridge support is MI and works fine on all > supported alpha machines. > There are a few machine types that still have wrong interrupt routing, > but that's a matter of testing and not implementation - this should > apply only to a few very old machine types. > However there is a lot of driver breakage in respect of memory mode > access and since SRM configures no IO space behind PCI bridges it's > a real problem. > We may need to have code for doing resource allocation ourself, so that > we get IO space behind bridges or fix all drivers. > Fixing drivers would be an endless story IMHO... That is indeed the main issue, I havent really looked if any other os-es have solved this issue. -- Sten Spans "There is a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in." Leonard Cohen - Anthem From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 18 08:13:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372BE16A41C for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:13:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from macgyver@calibre-solutions.co.uk) Received: from mail.calibre-solutions.co.uk (ns0.calibre-solutions.co.uk [217.79.104.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6230043D53 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:13:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from macgyver@calibre-solutions.co.uk) Received: from vmx.calibre-solutions.co.uk (node1.calibre-solutions.co.uk [172.16.1.3]) by mail.calibre-solutions.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F4578E9A for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:22:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from falcon.calibre-solutions.co.uk (falcon.calibre-solutions.co.uk [172.16.1.30]) by vmx.calibre-solutions.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78147AF84 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:12:03 +0100 (BST) From: Angus MacGyver To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:11:03 +0100 Message-Id: <1121674263.5897.5.camel@falcon.calibre-solutions.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 (2.0.4-4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Vinum + AXP + 5.4.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:13:53 -0000 OK.. Prolly a "Silly question" here.. I wish to install 5.4 on a LX164 mobo, as I have done in the past.... Just one thing, I now have two 18GB hdd's (scsi) and want to use vinum. The manual states that I cannot install onto a vinum disk, fine.... It also says to get around that you install first, using swap as the first partition.... trouble is, when i try that from sysinstall it sys that I will break things as the AXP architecture cannot understand booting from anything that the first lump on the drive... So, resorting to my friend google, there isn't exactly a wealth of info coming back to help.. Anyone got any pointers ? (or even a howto?) Cheers muchly. AM -- Angus MacGyver From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 18 10:05:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A350F16A41C for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:05:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7EB243D45 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:05:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [10.1.1.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6IA4gBS078056 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:04:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301::12]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6IA42J7089288 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:04:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6IA42Yx056436; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:04:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6IA3s8S056435; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:03:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:03:54 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Angus MacGyver Message-ID: <20050718100353.GH53035@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <1121674263.5897.5.camel@falcon.calibre-solutions.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1121674263.5897.5.camel@falcon.calibre-solutions.co.uk> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.2-CURRENT alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Report: * -4.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on cicely12.cicely.de Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vinum + AXP + 5.4.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:05:05 -0000 On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 09:11:03AM +0100, Angus MacGyver wrote: > OK.. > > Prolly a "Silly question" here.. > I wish to install 5.4 on a LX164 mobo, as I have done in the past.... > > Just one thing, I now have two 18GB hdd's (scsi) and want to use vinum. > The manual states that I cannot install onto a vinum disk, fine.... > It also says to get around that you install first, using swap as the > first partition.... trouble is, when i try that from sysinstall it sys > that I will break things as the AXP architecture cannot understand > booting from anything that the first lump on the drive... > > So, resorting to my friend google, there isn't exactly a wealth of info > coming back to help.. > > Anyone got any pointers ? (or even a howto?) Use gmirror - it stores bookkeeping data at the end, so it shouldn't be a problem with booting. The overall state with vinum/gvinum under FreeBSD-5 and up is not very good. In fact I keep two machine - one an alpha - on very old OS versions just because they have big vinum partitions. -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de bernd@bwct.de info@bwct.de From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 18 10:15:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A253D16A41C for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:15:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from macgyver@calibre-solutions.co.uk) Received: from mail.calibre-solutions.co.uk (ns0.calibre-solutions.co.uk [217.79.104.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E1D43D48 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:15:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from macgyver@calibre-solutions.co.uk) Received: from vmx.calibre-solutions.co.uk (node1.calibre-solutions.co.uk [172.16.1.3]) by mail.calibre-solutions.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF15478E9A; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:23:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from falcon.calibre-solutions.co.uk (falcon.calibre-solutions.co.uk [172.16.1.30]) by vmx.calibre-solutions.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB064AF84; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:13:56 +0100 (BST) From: Angus MacGyver To: ticso@cicely.de In-Reply-To: <20050718100353.GH53035@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <1121674263.5897.5.camel@falcon.calibre-solutions.co.uk> <20050718100353.GH53035@cicely12.cicely.de> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:12:54 +0100 Message-Id: <1121681574.5897.7.camel@falcon.calibre-solutions.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 (2.0.4-4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vinum + AXP + 5.4.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:15:47 -0000 On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 12:03 +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 09:11:03AM +0100, Angus MacGyver wrote: > > OK.. > > > > Prolly a "Silly question" here.. > > I wish to install 5.4 on a LX164 mobo, as I have done in the past.... > > > > Just one thing, I now have two 18GB hdd's (scsi) and want to use vinum. > > The manual states that I cannot install onto a vinum disk, fine.... > > It also says to get around that you install first, using swap as the > > first partition.... trouble is, when i try that from sysinstall it sys > > that I will break things as the AXP architecture cannot understand > > booting from anything that the first lump on the drive... > > > > So, resorting to my friend google, there isn't exactly a wealth of info > > coming back to help.. > > > > Anyone got any pointers ? (or even a howto?) > > Use gmirror - it stores bookkeeping data at the end, so it shouldn't > be a problem with booting. > The overall state with vinum/gvinum under FreeBSD-5 and up is not very > good. > In fact I keep two machine - one an alpha - on very old OS versions > just because they have big vinum partitions. > AH... I will take a look.. Thanks. AM -- Angus MacGyver From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 18 11:02:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9B716A41C for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:02:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DCF43D45 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:02:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6IB2CZM098108 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:02:12 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j6IB2B8O098102 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:02:11 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:02:11 GMT Message-Id: <200507181102.j6IB2B8O098102@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:02:12 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2004/12/20] alpha/75317 alpha ATA DMA broken on PCalpha 1 problem total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- f [2001/09/10] alpha/30486 alpha AlphaServer DS10 floppy access is broken o [2003/02/05] alpha/47952 alpha DEFPA causes machine check with V5.0-rele o [2003/11/10] alpha/59116 alpha [ntfs] mount_ntfs of a Windows 2000-forma o [2004/01/26] alpha/61940 alpha Can't disklabel new disk from FreeBSD/alp o [2004/01/27] alpha/61973 alpha Machine Check on boot-up of AlphaServer 2 f [2004/06/06] alpha/67626 alpha X crashes an alpha machine, resulting reb 6 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2001/02/22] alpha/25284 alpha PC164 won't reboot with graphics console f [2001/07/29] alpha/29299 alpha FreeBSD 4.3 Alpha + Tekram SCSI adapter p o [2002/05/13] alpha/38031 alpha osf1.ko not loaded during boot-time of li o [2003/02/25] alpha/48676 alpha Changing the baud rate of serial consoles o [2003/04/12] alpha/50868 alpha fd0 floppy device is not mapped into /dev o [2004/05/10] alpha/66478 alpha unexpected machine check: panic for 4.9, o [2004/06/13] alpha/67903 alpha hw.chipset.memory: 1099511627776 - thats 7 problems total. From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 19 17:59:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F2016A41F for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:59:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from harrisb@rcisd.org) Received: from mail.rcisd.org (mail.rcisd.org [207.235.198.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C5B43D49 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:59:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from harrisb@rcisd.org) Received: from [207.235.198.14] (helo=notes1.rcisd.org) by mail.rcisd.org with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DuwMz-00052i-2N for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:59:05 -0500 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: From: harrisb@rcisd.org Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:01:29 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on notes1/rcisd(Release 6.5.1|January 21, 2004) at 07/19/2005 01:01:30 PM, Serialize complete at 07/19/2005 01:01:30 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: DC driver real slow on 5.4/alpha 4100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:59:07 -0000 I've seen the posts in the past regarding 5.3-RELEASE and the DE driver, I'm having similar problems on a fresh 5.4 install on a 2 processor 4100. When I run the interface in 100 Full half or full duplex, throughput is awful, ie; 8-10k/sec on ftp's. If I run in 10 Full, same thing, but in 10 half, throughput goes up to the 700-850k/sec ranges. This is on a 'dc0' interface. It's connected to a HP pro-curve 4108 and I've checked for mismatch modes. The man pages (4) on dc reference problems on either 100 modes. I'd sure like to get better throughput out of this card. Bill Harris Director of Technology Royse City ISD (972)-635-5050 From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 19 21:00:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B6916A430 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:00:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5F343D48 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:00:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [10.1.1.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6JL02BS036105 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:00:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301::12]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6JKxCJ7002220 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:59:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JKxC1p067715; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:59:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6JKxC0n067714; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:59:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:59:11 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: harrisb@rcisd.org Message-ID: <20050719205911.GJ60433@cicely12.cicely.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.2-CURRENT alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Report: * -4.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on cicely12.cicely.de Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DC driver real slow on 5.4/alpha 4100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:00:09 -0000 On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 01:01:29PM -0500, harrisb@rcisd.org wrote: > I've seen the posts in the past regarding 5.3-RELEASE and the DE driver, > I'm having similar problems on a fresh 5.4 install on a 2 processor 4100. > > When I run the interface in 100 Full half or full duplex, throughput is > awful, ie; 8-10k/sec on ftp's. What do you see with autoselect? What are the full dmesg messages for your card (including phy). What vendor and product is your card? Does the card have BNC connectors? > If I run in 10 Full, same thing, but in 10 half, throughput goes up to the > 700-850k/sec > ranges. This is on a 'dc0' interface. It's connected to a HP pro-curve > 4108 and I've > checked for mismatch modes. Is the Switch configured autoselect or fixed speed/duplex? Both sides must be configured identic, but sometimes there can be problems with dc cards in getting specific phys in the correct mode. > The man pages (4) on dc reference problems on either 100 modes. I'd > sure like > to get better throughput out of this card. An AS4100 should easily get almost wire speed from a properly working dc card. -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de bernd@bwct.de info@bwct.de From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 21 14:15:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8318216A420 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:15:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from harrisb@rcisd.org) Received: from mail.rcisd.org (mail.rcisd.org [207.235.198.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FDB43DC9 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:15:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from harrisb@rcisd.org) Received: from [10.0.4.131] (helo=[10.0.4.131]) by mail.rcisd.org with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Dvbo9-000KWr-6g; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:13:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050719205911.GJ60433@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20050719205911.GJ60433@cicely12.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <1a6f6c72c4a19a18ffc5c4bd1c1d09c6@rcisd.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bill Harris Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:14:45 -0500 To: ticso@cicely.de X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DC driver real slow on 5.4/alpha 4100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:15:20 -0000 Bernd, I have an identical AS4100 at home (my office heater) and had put 5.4 on it last week. It also shows to be using a dc driver, the same DE500 card. Well, I think I've screwed my home server up this morning. It's connected to a Linksys 10/100 switch, and it had been running fine under 10baseT/half. I decided to try and switch it to 100, through a telnet session (should have not been a problem) and the card has locked up. I tried to set the card (now from the console) to auto-negiotiate, but nothing. No lights at all on the card. I've unplugged switch, card, power down, rebooted, but my network card is dead. It still shows succesfully probed in the dmesg, showing the mac address and all, but it's interface is DOWN and won't come back online or show any LED's. Having to leave for work after this fine piece of experimentation, I unplugged everything, turned power off on the server and left. Any ideas how I might rescue/reset my card? What are some options? Bill On Jul 19, 2005, at 3:59 PM, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 01:01:29PM -0500, harrisb@rcisd.org wrote: >> I've seen the posts in the past regarding 5.3-RELEASE and the DE >> driver, >> I'm having similar problems on a fresh 5.4 install on a 2 processor >> 4100. >> >> When I run the interface in 100 Full half or full duplex, >> throughput is >> awful, ie; 8-10k/sec on ftp's. > > What do you see with autoselect? > What are the full dmesg messages for your card (including phy). > What vendor and product is your card? > Does the card have BNC connectors? > >> If I run in 10 Full, same thing, but in 10 half, throughput goes up >> to the >> 700-850k/sec >> ranges. This is on a 'dc0' interface. It's connected to a HP >> pro-curve >> 4108 and I've >> checked for mismatch modes. > > Is the Switch configured autoselect or fixed speed/duplex? > Both sides must be configured identic, but sometimes there can be > problems with dc cards in getting specific phys in the correct mode. > >> The man pages (4) on dc reference problems on either 100 modes. I'd >> sure like >> to get better throughput out of this card. > > An AS4100 should easily get almost wire speed from a properly working > dc card. > > -- > B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de > bernd@bwct.de info@bwct.de > From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 21 14:19:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF71D16A455 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:19:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F0C043DA5 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:19:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [10.1.1.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6LEJOBS002305 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:19:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [10.1.1.14]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6LEIxJ7018284 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:19:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6LEIxXi079876; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:18:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6LEIxaq079875; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:18:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:18:58 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Bill Harris Message-ID: <20050721141858.GN67987@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20050719205911.GJ60433@cicely12.cicely.de> <1a6f6c72c4a19a18ffc5c4bd1c1d09c6@rcisd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1a6f6c72c4a19a18ffc5c4bd1c1d09c6@rcisd.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.2-CURRENT alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Report: * -4.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on cicely12.cicely.de Cc: ticso@cicely.de, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DC driver real slow on 5.4/alpha 4100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:19:37 -0000 On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 09:14:45AM -0500, Bill Harris wrote: > Bernd, > > I have an identical AS4100 at home (my office heater) and had > put 5.4 on it last week. It also shows to be using a dc driver, the > same DE500 card. > > Well, I think I've screwed my home server up this morning. It's > connected to a Linksys 10/100 switch, and it had been running > fine under 10baseT/half. > > I decided to try and switch it to 100, through a telnet session (should > have not been a problem) and the card has locked up. I tried to set > the card (now from the console) to auto-negiotiate, but nothing. No > lights at all on the card. > > I've unplugged switch, card, power down, rebooted, but my network > card is dead. It still shows succesfully probed in the dmesg, showing > the mac address and all, but it's interface is DOWN and won't come back > online or show any LED's. > > Having to leave for work after this fine piece of experimentation, I > unplugged > everything, turned power off on the server and left. > > Any ideas how I might rescue/reset my card? What are some options? You might have success with ifconfig down/up. -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de bernd@bwct.de info@bwct.de From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 21 14:33:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8EBE16A41F for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:33:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from harrisb@rcisd.org) Received: from mail.rcisd.org (mail.rcisd.org [207.235.198.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1316643D9C for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:32:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from harrisb@rcisd.org) Received: from [10.0.4.131] (helo=[10.0.4.131]) by mail.rcisd.org with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Dvc5O-000Klk-US; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:31:42 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050721141858.GN67987@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20050719205911.GJ60433@cicely12.cicely.de> <1a6f6c72c4a19a18ffc5c4bd1c1d09c6@rcisd.org> <20050721141858.GN67987@cicely12.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <84ad48bef9de0621a6efe8ceba1ee2ce@rcisd.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bill Harris Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:32:36 -0500 To: ticso@cicely.de X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DC driver real slow on 5.4/alpha 4100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:33:02 -0000 That was the first thing I tried. I'm afraid somehow I've caused the card to get into a non-functional state. Tried switching ports on my switch, unplugging, ifconfig down/up changed from 10/100 and back. I'm hoping that powering it down and leaving it all day without network cable will let it reset. Dunno. What I'm worried about is those cards are hard to find, and what other cards does FBSD support in the Alpha 4100, if this card is toast? Bill On Jul 21, 2005, at 9:18 AM, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 09:14:45AM -0500, Bill Harris wrote: >> Bernd, >> >> I have an identical AS4100 at home (my office heater) and had >> put 5.4 on it last week. It also shows to be using a dc driver, the >> same DE500 card. >> >> Well, I think I've screwed my home server up this morning. It's >> connected to a Linksys 10/100 switch, and it had been running >> fine under 10baseT/half. >> >> I decided to try and switch it to 100, through a telnet session >> (should >> have not been a problem) and the card has locked up. I tried to set >> the card (now from the console) to auto-negiotiate, but nothing. No >> lights at all on the card. >> >> I've unplugged switch, card, power down, rebooted, but my network >> card is dead. It still shows succesfully probed in the dmesg, showing >> the mac address and all, but it's interface is DOWN and won't come >> back >> online or show any LED's. >> >> Having to leave for work after this fine piece of experimentation, I >> unplugged >> everything, turned power off on the server and left. >> >> Any ideas how I might rescue/reset my card? What are some options? > > You might have success with ifconfig down/up. > > -- > B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de > bernd@bwct.de info@bwct.de > From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 21 15:05:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1766016A41F for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:05:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E2F43D45 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:05:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [10.1.1.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6LF5PBS003624 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:05:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [10.1.1.14]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6LF4WJ7018604 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:04:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6LF4Wfe080150; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:04:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6LF4WIm080149; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:04:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:04:32 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Bill Harris Message-ID: <20050721150431.GO67987@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20050719205911.GJ60433@cicely12.cicely.de> <1a6f6c72c4a19a18ffc5c4bd1c1d09c6@rcisd.org> <20050721141858.GN67987@cicely12.cicely.de> <84ad48bef9de0621a6efe8ceba1ee2ce@rcisd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <84ad48bef9de0621a6efe8ceba1ee2ce@rcisd.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.2-CURRENT alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Report: * -4.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on cicely12.cicely.de Cc: ticso@cicely.de, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DC driver real slow on 5.4/alpha 4100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:05:30 -0000 On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 09:32:36AM -0500, Bill Harris wrote: > That was the first thing I tried. I'm afraid somehow I've Ups - I've overread that you even powered down. However since this is a DEC card you can also do a lot from SRM. > caused the card to get into a non-functional state. Tried switching > ports on my switch, unplugging, ifconfig down/up changed from 10/100 > and back. I'm hoping that powering it down and leaving it all day > without network cable will let it reset. Dunno. > > What I'm worried about is those cards are hard to find, and what > other cards does FBSD support in the Alpha 4100, if this card is toast? Theoretically every card should work. I've using a fxp(4) based card in AS4100 plus PC164 and xl(4) based in PC164. I'm also running a tx(4) based in NoName, but these have broken support for autoselect. Card selection for alpha is only a problem if you want to netboot, otherwise the same criteria exists as for other platforms. > On Jul 21, 2005, at 9:18 AM, Bernd Walter wrote: > > >On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 09:14:45AM -0500, Bill Harris wrote: > >>Bernd, > >> > >>I have an identical AS4100 at home (my office heater) and had > >>put 5.4 on it last week. It also shows to be using a dc driver, the > >>same DE500 card. > >> > >>Well, I think I've screwed my home server up this morning. It's > >>connected to a Linksys 10/100 switch, and it had been running > >>fine under 10baseT/half. > >> > >>I decided to try and switch it to 100, through a telnet session > >>(should > >>have not been a problem) and the card has locked up. I tried to set > >>the card (now from the console) to auto-negiotiate, but nothing. No > >>lights at all on the card. > >> > >>I've unplugged switch, card, power down, rebooted, but my network > >>card is dead. It still shows succesfully probed in the dmesg, showing > >>the mac address and all, but it's interface is DOWN and won't come > >>back > >>online or show any LED's. > >> > >>Having to leave for work after this fine piece of experimentation, I > >>unplugged > >>everything, turned power off on the server and left. > >> > >>Any ideas how I might rescue/reset my card? What are some options? > > > >You might have success with ifconfig down/up. -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de bernd@bwct.de info@bwct.de From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 21 16:03:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E8716A421 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:03:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from harrisb@rcisd.org) Received: from mail.rcisd.org (mail.rcisd.org [207.235.198.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EBC43D4C for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:03:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from harrisb@rcisd.org) Received: from [10.0.4.131] (helo=[10.0.4.131]) by mail.rcisd.org with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DvdUv-000NTZ-L4; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 11:02:09 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050721150431.GO67987@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20050719205911.GJ60433@cicely12.cicely.de> <1a6f6c72c4a19a18ffc5c4bd1c1d09c6@rcisd.org> <20050721141858.GN67987@cicely12.cicely.de> <84ad48bef9de0621a6efe8ceba1ee2ce@rcisd.org> <20050721150431.GO67987@cicely12.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <90aa6ed534ef3e8b255885975c1072c8@rcisd.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bill Harris Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 11:03:04 -0500 To: ticso@cicely.de X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DC driver real slow on 5.4/alpha 4100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:03:41 -0000 Thanks much Bernd, I was hoping the full driver stack was available in /alpha as in /i386. I'll first see if I can clear it thru srm, if that doesn't work, then worst case another card. Thanks much for your help. Bill On Jul 21, 2005, at 10:04 AM, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 09:32:36AM -0500, Bill Harris wrote: >> That was the first thing I tried. I'm afraid somehow I've > > Ups - I've overread that you even powered down. > However since this is a DEC card you can also do a lot from SRM. > >> caused the card to get into a non-functional state. Tried switching >> ports on my switch, unplugging, ifconfig down/up changed from 10/100 >> and back. I'm hoping that powering it down and leaving it all day >> without network cable will let it reset. Dunno. >> >> What I'm worried about is those cards are hard to find, and what >> other cards does FBSD support in the Alpha 4100, if this card is >> toast? > > Theoretically every card should work. > I've using a fxp(4) based card in AS4100 plus PC164 and xl(4) based > in PC164. > I'm also running a tx(4) based in NoName, but these have broken support > for autoselect. > Card selection for alpha is only a problem if you want to netboot, > otherwise the same criteria exists as for other platforms. > >> On Jul 21, 2005, at 9:18 AM, Bernd Walter wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 09:14:45AM -0500, Bill Harris wrote: >>>> Bernd, >>>> >>>> I have an identical AS4100 at home (my office heater) and had >>>> put 5.4 on it last week. It also shows to be using a dc driver, >>>> the >>>> same DE500 card. >>>> >>>> Well, I think I've screwed my home server up this morning. It's >>>> connected to a Linksys 10/100 switch, and it had been running >>>> fine under 10baseT/half. >>>> >>>> I decided to try and switch it to 100, through a telnet session >>>> (should >>>> have not been a problem) and the card has locked up. I tried to >>>> set >>>> the card (now from the console) to auto-negiotiate, but nothing. No >>>> lights at all on the card. >>>> >>>> I've unplugged switch, card, power down, rebooted, but my network >>>> card is dead. It still shows succesfully probed in the dmesg, >>>> showing >>>> the mac address and all, but it's interface is DOWN and won't come >>>> back >>>> online or show any LED's. >>>> >>>> Having to leave for work after this fine piece of experimentation, I >>>> unplugged >>>> everything, turned power off on the server and left. >>>> >>>> Any ideas how I might rescue/reset my card? What are some options? >>> >>> You might have success with ifconfig down/up. > > -- > B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de > bernd@bwct.de info@bwct.de > From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 21 21:15:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: alpha@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0789516A420; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 21:15:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mv.twc.weather.com (mv.twc.weather.com [65.212.71.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B7243D7E; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 21:15:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [10.50.40.201] (Not Verified[65.202.103.25]) by mv.twc.weather.com with NetIQ MailMarshal (v6, 0, 3, 8) id ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:29:44 -0400 From: John Baldwin To: alpha@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:13:54 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507211713.54772.jhb@FreeBSD.org> Cc: rwatson@FreeBSD.org Subject: PATCH to make de(4) MPSAFE X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 21:15:36 -0000 I've hacked on the de(4) driver to make it run without Giant. It's been working fine for over a day now on my ds20 and I wanted to submit the patch for wider testing. Note that it doesn't handle all the edge cases on multiport cards however. Patch is at http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/de_mpsafe.patch Please test, thanks! -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 21 21:32:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676FF16A422 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 21:32:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ulrich@infopuls.com) Received: from igel.cyberlink.ch (igel.cyberlink.ch [62.12.136.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A3143D46 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 21:32:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ulrich@infopuls.com) Received: (qmail 28308 invoked by uid 600); 21 Jul 2005 21:32:41 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.0.9 ppid: 28305, pid: 28306, t: 0.0031s scanners: regex: 1.0.9 Message-ID: <20050721213241.28305.qmail@igel.cyberlink.ch> From: Ulrich To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 23:32:41 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: PWS500a (Mitia) first install X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ulrich List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 21:32:48 -0000 Hi Everybody I'm familiar with x86 based FreeBSD for about 4 years using 4.1 - 4.9 on an Intel box. I bought a used PWS500a with two 2 GB disks attached to an Adaptec2940(UW) SCSI controller and a Toshiba ATAPI CD-ROM drive attached to a second SCSI bus. From the FreeBSD technical documentation I learnt that it isn't possible to boot from SCSI disks attached to an Adaptec controller. Since I'm also familiar with Alphas I know that it isn't that simple to boot them from floppy either. I would be happy if someone could give me some advice what I should buy and how I should proceed to get the box running freebsd 4.11. I thought of buying an IDE disk and removing the 2 small SCSI disks which have Windows/NT 4 installed on them. I already opened the box and detected that there isn't much space left so I doubt whether I find a place where I can put the IDE drive. Would it be possible to prepare boot floppy disks to get the installer up and running and then install from the CD-ROM drive? Or do I have to prepare for a network install which of course assumes that it is possible to prepare boot floppies. I also assume that it should be possible to set up my Intel FreeBSD box to serve bootp requests and to provide the alpha installation files from the FreeBSD alpha distribution cd. Any comments on that? TIA Ulrich From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 22 03:17:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F7916A41F for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 03:17:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B950A43D55 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 03:17:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6M3HGf0041539; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 20:17:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j6M3HFRm041538; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 20:17:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 20:17:15 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Ulrich Message-ID: <20050722031715.GC41313@dragon.NUXI.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org, Ulrich References: <20050721213241.28305.qmail@igel.cyberlink.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050721213241.28305.qmail@igel.cyberlink.ch> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PWS500a (Mitia) first install X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 03:17:23 -0000 On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 11:32:41PM +0200, Ulrich wrote: > Hi Everybody > > I'm familiar with x86 based FreeBSD for about 4 years using 4.1 - 4.9 on an > Intel box. > > I bought a used PWS500a with two 2 GB disks attached to an Adaptec2940(UW) > SCSI controller and a Toshiba ATAPI CD-ROM drive attached to a second SCSI > bus. From the FreeBSD technical documentation I learnt that it isn't > possible to boot from SCSI disks attached to an Adaptec controller. Since > I'm also familiar with Alphas I know that it isn't that simple to boot them > from floppy either. > > I would be happy if someone could give me some advice what I should buy and > how I should proceed to get the box running freebsd 4.11. I thought of > buying an IDE disk and removing the 2 small SCSI disks which have > Windows/NT 4 installed on them. I already opened the box and detected that > there isn't much space left so I doubt whether I find a place where I can > put the IDE drive. I would buy a Qlogic 1040 or LSI 'sym(4)' card cheep on eBay. The IDE conroller in the PWS500a is simply a POS. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 22 14:19:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF1116A422 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:19:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from harrisb@rcisd.org) Received: from mx1.duracom.net (mx1.duracom.net [65.66.8.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16A543D45 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:19:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from harrisb@rcisd.org) Received: from simplynet.net (mail.simplynet.net [65.66.8.104]) by mx1.duracom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798FB580B; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:42:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from harrisb@rcisd.org) Received: from [192.168.1.101] [70.247.147.35] by simplynet.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id A072A15A0110; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:19:30 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050721150431.GO67987@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20050719205911.GJ60433@cicely12.cicely.de> <1a6f6c72c4a19a18ffc5c4bd1c1d09c6@rcisd.org> <20050721141858.GN67987@cicely12.cicely.de> <84ad48bef9de0621a6efe8ceba1ee2ce@rcisd.org> <20050721150431.GO67987@cicely12.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v733) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6D9FC808-5A54-4DF1-8A9A-34AC932C146A@rcisd.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bill Harris Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:19:44 -0500 To: ticso@cicely.de X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.733) X-Declude-Sender: harrisb@rcisd.org [70.247.147.35] X-Declude-Spoolname: D0072A15A01101473.SMD Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DC driver real slow on 5.4/alpha 4100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:19:56 -0000 I tried everything in srm to reset the de500. What was interesting, is that when I'd run the net tests, it would bring the card up and online, for just a few seconds. Anyway, after yours and Richard's suggestion, I stuck a Dlink card in, and now I'm running at 100 Full duplex.. Thanks Bill On Jul 21, 2005, at 10:04 AM, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 09:32:36AM -0500, Bill Harris wrote: > >> That was the first thing I tried. I'm afraid somehow I've >> > > Ups - I've overread that you even powered down. > However since this is a DEC card you can also do a lot from SRM. > > >> caused the card to get into a non-functional state. Tried switching >> ports on my switch, unplugging, ifconfig down/up changed from >> 10/100 >> and back. I'm hoping that powering it down and leaving it all day >> without network cable will let it reset. Dunno. >> >> What I'm worried about is those cards are hard to find, and what >> other cards does FBSD support in the Alpha 4100, if this card is >> toast? >> > > Theoretically every card should work. > I've using a fxp(4) based card in AS4100 plus PC164 and xl(4) based > in PC164. > I'm also running a tx(4) based in NoName, but these have broken > support > for autoselect. > Card selection for alpha is only a problem if you want to netboot, > otherwise the same criteria exists as for other platforms. > > >> On Jul 21, 2005, at 9:18 AM, Bernd Walter wrote: >> >> >>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 09:14:45AM -0500, Bill Harris wrote: >>> >>>> Bernd, >>>> >>>> I have an identical AS4100 at home (my office heater) and had >>>> put 5.4 on it last week. It also shows to be using a dc >>>> driver, the >>>> same DE500 card. >>>> >>>> Well, I think I've screwed my home server up this morning. It's >>>> connected to a Linksys 10/100 switch, and it had been running >>>> fine under 10baseT/half. >>>> >>>> I decided to try and switch it to 100, through a telnet session >>>> (should >>>> have not been a problem) and the card has locked up. I tried >>>> to set >>>> the card (now from the console) to auto-negiotiate, but >>>> nothing. No >>>> lights at all on the card. >>>> >>>> I've unplugged switch, card, power down, rebooted, but my network >>>> card is dead. It still shows succesfully probed in the dmesg, >>>> showing >>>> the mac address and all, but it's interface is DOWN and won't come >>>> back >>>> online or show any LED's. >>>> >>>> Having to leave for work after this fine piece of >>>> experimentation, I >>>> unplugged >>>> everything, turned power off on the server and left. >>>> >>>> Any ideas how I might rescue/reset my card? What are some options? >>>> >>> >>> You might have success with ifconfig down/up. >>> > > -- > B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de > bernd@bwct.de info@bwct.de > > From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 22 23:16:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850B916A41F for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 23:16:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sten@blinkenlights.nl) Received: from ford.blinkenlights.nl (ford.blinkenlights.nl [213.204.211.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DAB43D45 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 23:16:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sten@blinkenlights.nl) Received: from tea.blinkenlights.nl (tea.blinkenlights.nl [192.168.1.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ford.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266913F294; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:15:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: by tea.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix, from userid 101) id B829F285; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:15:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tea.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7E425F; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:15:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:15:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Sten Spans To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050722031715.GC41313@dragon.NUXI.org> Message-ID: References: <20050721213241.28305.qmail@igel.cyberlink.ch> <20050722031715.GC41313@dragon.NUXI.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: PWS500a (Mitia) first install X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 23:16:01 -0000 On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, David O'Brien wrote: > On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 11:32:41PM +0200, Ulrich wrote: >> Hi Everybody >> >> I'm familiar with x86 based FreeBSD for about 4 years using 4.1 - 4.9 on an >> Intel box. >> >> I bought a used PWS500a with two 2 GB disks attached to an Adaptec2940(UW) >> SCSI controller and a Toshiba ATAPI CD-ROM drive attached to a second SCSI >> bus. From the FreeBSD technical documentation I learnt that it isn't >> possible to boot from SCSI disks attached to an Adaptec controller. Since >> I'm also familiar with Alphas I know that it isn't that simple to boot them >> from floppy either. >> >> I would be happy if someone could give me some advice what I should buy and >> how I should proceed to get the box running freebsd 4.11. I thought of >> buying an IDE disk and removing the 2 small SCSI disks which have >> Windows/NT 4 installed on them. I already opened the box and detected that >> there isn't much space left so I doubt whether I find a place where I can >> put the IDE drive. > > I would buy a Qlogic 1040 or LSI 'sym(4)' card cheep on eBay. The IDE > conroller in the PWS500a is simply a POS. Adaptec 2940uw is bootable with certain srm versions, Symbios 895's are a good choise too. Please note that boot support has nothing to do with freebsd. SRM has to support the particular adaptor. if the box came with 2940 booting from it may just work .. -- Sten Spans "There is a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in." Leonard Cohen - Anthem From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 23 01:22:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45F916A41F for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:22:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ulrich@infopuls.com) Received: from igel.cyberlink.ch (igel.cyberlink.ch [62.12.136.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD8F43D45 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:22:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ulrich@infopuls.com) Received: (qmail 12312 invoked by uid 600); 23 Jul 2005 01:22:07 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.0.9 ppid: 12309, pid: 12310, t: 0.0028s scanners: regex: 1.0.9 Message-ID: <20050723012207.12309.qmail@igel.cyberlink.ch> References: <20050721213241.28305.qmail@igel.cyberlink.ch> <20050722031715.GC41313@dragon.NUXI.org> In-Reply-To: From: Ulrich To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 03:22:07 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: PWS500a (Mitia) first install X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:22:11 -0000 Thanks, David and Sten. Sten Spans writes: > On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, David O'Brien wrote: > >> I would buy a Qlogic 1040 or LSI 'sym(4)' card cheep on eBay. The IDE >> conroller in the PWS500a is simply a POS. > > Adaptec 2940uw is bootable with certain srm versions, > Symbios 895's are a good choise too. > > Please note that boot support has nothing to do with > freebsd. SRM has to support the particular adaptor. > > if the box came with 2940 booting from it may just work .. The box is capable of booting Windows/NT 3.51 from one of the two 2 GB disks attached to the Adaptec. AlphaBIOS Version: 5.29 970226.1314 I already downloaded the files from the HP site with the current version. I hesitate a little bit to perform the upgrade because I never did that and I know that it may damage the system if something goes wrong. I'm gonne buy a high capacity 2,5 " SCSI disk to replace the two 2 GB disks. If the system can boot from it - perfect! If not, I'll use the CDROM or the floppy disks to boot from. I'm eager to get the box up and running now since it is here for about 4 months. Thanks for the advice! From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 23 12:38:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FEBC16A41F for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 12:38:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6A243D45 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 12:38:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6NCcG4j062667; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:38:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6NCcGjS026364; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:38:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j6NCcGfM026363; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:38:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:38:16 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Sten Spans Message-ID: <20050723123816.GC26258@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20050721213241.28305.qmail@igel.cyberlink.ch> <20050722031715.GC41313@dragon.NUXI.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PWS500a (Mitia) first install X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 12:38:20 -0000 On Sat, Jul 23, 2005 at 01:15:28AM +0200, Sten Spans wrote.. > On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, David O'Brien wrote: > > >On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 11:32:41PM +0200, Ulrich wrote: > >>Hi Everybody > >> > >>I'm familiar with x86 based FreeBSD for about 4 years using 4.1 - 4.9 on > >>an > >>Intel box. > >> > >>I bought a used PWS500a with two 2 GB disks attached to an Adaptec2940(UW) > >>SCSI controller and a Toshiba ATAPI CD-ROM drive attached to a second SCSI > >>bus. From the FreeBSD technical documentation I learnt that it isn't > >>possible to boot from SCSI disks attached to an Adaptec controller. Since > >>I'm also familiar with Alphas I know that it isn't that simple to boot > >>them > >>from floppy either. > >> > >>I would be happy if someone could give me some advice what I should buy > >>and > >>how I should proceed to get the box running freebsd 4.11. I thought of > >>buying an IDE disk and removing the 2 small SCSI disks which have > >>Windows/NT 4 installed on them. I already opened the box and detected that > >>there isn't much space left so I doubt whether I find a place where I can > >>put the IDE drive. > > > >I would buy a Qlogic 1040 or LSI 'sym(4)' card cheep on eBay. The IDE > >conroller in the PWS500a is simply a POS. > > Adaptec 2940uw is bootable with certain srm versions, Not on the Miata (it is not a Mitia ;-) as far as I remember (and I used to have both a Miata GL and a Miata MX5 at some point). > Symbios 895's are a good choise too. Not on all SRM versions either. > Please note that boot support has nothing to do with > freebsd. SRM has to support the particular adaptor. > > if the box came with 2940 booting from it may just work .. Be careful out there: the Miata's that were set up for WinNT/alpha using the AlphaBIOS had 2940 in them. That does not mean 2940 will work with SRM on the same machine. David's advice on the isp(4) card is by far the most sound one! -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 23 16:19:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51CA16A41F for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:19:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from harrisb@rcisd.org) Received: from mx1.duracom.net (mx1.duracom.net [65.66.8.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B13E43D46 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:19:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from harrisb@rcisd.org) Received: from simplynet.net (mail.simplynet.net [65.66.8.104]) by mx1.duracom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4414257FB for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 11:42:23 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from harrisb@rcisd.org) Received: from [192.168.1.101] [70.247.147.35] by simplynet.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id ADEB50040132; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 11:18:51 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v733) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org From: Bill Harris Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 11:19:07 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.733) X-Declude-Sender: harrisb@rcisd.org [70.247.147.35] X-Declude-Spoolname: D6DEB50040132BFBA.SMD Subject: AS4100 SMP Support X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:19:12 -0000 Will 5.4 support up to the maximum of 4 processors in the AS4100? I'm running with 2 now, and thought about picking up a couple more, if it would support it? Bill From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 23 16:47:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62CA16A41F for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:47:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E130543D64 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:47:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [10.1.1.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6NGlrBS074224 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:47:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [10.1.1.14]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6NGlCJ7037915 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:47:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6NGlCAd097223; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:47:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6NGlBvx097222; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:47:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:47:11 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Bill Harris Message-ID: <20050723164711.GL90518@cicely12.cicely.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.2-CURRENT alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Report: * -4.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on cicely12.cicely.de Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AS4100 SMP Support X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:47:59 -0000 On Sat, Jul 23, 2005 at 11:19:07AM -0500, Bill Harris wrote: > Will 5.4 support up to the maximum of 4 processors in the AS4100? Yes - you are just limited to 2G RAM so far. -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de bernd@bwct.de info@bwct.de