From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 16 20:42:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3AD516A4DA for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:42:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raistlin@tacorp.net) Received: from mail.tacorp.net (mail.tacorp.net [64.254.140.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0418143D46 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:42:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from raistlin@tacorp.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.tacorp.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245981B5038; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:42:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tacorp.net Received: from mail.tacorp.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.tacorp.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dsV2xA-GTBf4; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:42:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.tacorp.net (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 8B92F1B5052; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:42:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.tacorp.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8974F1B5027; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:42:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:42:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason Slagle To: James Mansion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060816163240.A77022@mail.tacorp.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "Chad R. Larson" , freebsd-small@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon Subject: RE: diskless (or rather, readonly) X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:42:09 -0000 On Sat, 12 Aug 2006, James Mansion wrote: > I'm not trying to get anyone to do something for me. Just be nice > if the FreeBSD community would accept that the oft-heard mantra > that it has a complete-system approach and good documentation is rather > out of date through bitrot from the recent changes. I don't think anyone tries to claim FreeBSD is the correct solution to every problem. Anyone who thinks *ANYTHING* is the solution to every problem hasn't encountered very many problems. Some of the documentation is lacking on recent versions. Coders often hate to write documentation, so someone needs to find someone to write new stuff. This is often harder then finding coders to do the work. This isn't a problem unique to FreeBSD. It impacts most open source software, and even commercial software in many cases. > As it is, the linux-live scripts are attractive if there isn't > a 'flick this switch and it happens by magic'. I had thought > there was such a thing, but clearly not in FreeBSD 6.1, and I don't > have time to invent a solution right now. Then don't use FreeBSD for this project. The reason you got so many responses is because your first post implied someone should take their time to do it for you. I reread it several times to make sure I didn't take it wrong, but it sure sounded like you implied your time was more valuable than everyone else on the list's to me. It certainly sounds to me like VXWorks or one of the other commercially supported embedded OS's would be a fit for you. Then when you had an issue you would have someone to fix it for you, instead of venting at a bunch of unpaid volunteers in a public mailing list. Jason -- Jason Slagle /"\ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign . X - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail . / \ - NO Word docs in e-mail . 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