From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 11:05:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11E21065687 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:05:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-isp@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CFAE8FC24 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:05:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-isp@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KpKlS-0007PJ-90 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:35:02 +0000 Received: from atel.k18.ch ([62.2.143.34]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:35:02 +0000 Received: from wolf by atel.k18.ch with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:35:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Alain Wolf Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:49:09 +0200 Lines: 39 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: atel.k18.ch User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080227 Lightning/0.8 Thunderbird/2.0.0.12 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=6CB1BC68 Sender: news Subject: Suhosin Segmentation Fault X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:05:09 -0000 After upgrading FreeBSD from 6.3-p3 to 6.3-p5 on our server, all websites just display a blank page and every HTTP request created a line as follows in the logs: child pid 80326 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) This same problem happened on another server a few months ago after the upgrade from 6.3-p3 to 6.3-p4, but after a rebuild of all FreeBSD ports all went back to normal. However several rebuilds of all ports did not solve the problem on this one. To narrow down the problem: After disabling the PHP module in Apache the problem disappears. Re-enabling PHP, but disabling the Suhosin extension also works fine. The trick found in this forum, to load the Suhosin extension before all other PHP extensions in /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini does not help. In fact not loading any extension at all except Suhosin creates the segfault errors. Commenting out our Suhosin settings in php.ini to load it with default values did not help. FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p5 Apache 2.2.9 (DAV/2 mod_python/3.3.1 Python/2.5.2 SVN/1.5.2) PHP Version 5.2.6 Suhosin Patch 0.9.6.2 Suhosin PHP extension 0.9.27 All installed from the ports. PHP (cli) seems to run fine at all times when called from the command-line. Any suggestions? Thanks Alain Wolf, Zurich, Switzerland From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 12:51:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81FF1065687 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:51:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.schuh@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4C98FC1C for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:51:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.schuh@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1571883wfg.7 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:51:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=zQIAQti+pLMXECLrFfvokNKLLf6T266ab9E6eBjkTUM=; b=YYcMCPVEBzdLeazaK8ikmVauo/je4ZlcM/ug66Sj8PMyEGa/sSc7HfAtjAuuNwMpbu UoONSyzWvb0iZYI5fJlJWP7x1y1bkNPsRXSLEHnF3yBx97T+gWTz7L502QYtwMQ98738 429O4v+Bi2B0Emjw2Z/QDE+DL3Q3g0KA1XPkQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=M2MY6fCqdiboTK5/pJwZkGCDj8HCAop/8W7kOkgWac/Ec7CRueiYCXLWndQWy9KLTm mye436TLM/4hwIlPr8lQOa0otLxgRXCiOllYMCKCyO7J0Tkhuq81FctaQy2P9C3bV1Zv vEA6NM8IyRFTtAIR9kQNhzMxKE0+J54TuDeEg= Received: by 10.142.223.20 with SMTP id v20mr2080402wfg.81.1223900588453; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.170.11 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1dbad3150810130523i5d0b4dffr94440a59d9bf9d26@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:23:08 +0200 From: "Michael Schuh" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Suhosin Segmentation Fault (Alain Wolf) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:51:18 -0000 > 1. Suhosin Segmentation Fault (Alain Wolf) > Hello Alain, Hello @list, try to change the order of loading the php-modules.....they could get not loaded with respects to their dependencies....one possibility in my case it has helped.... if i remember right :/usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini is to edit.... greetings michael --=20 =3D=3D=3D m i c h a e l - s c h u h . n e t =3D=3D=3D Michael Schuh Postfach 10 21 52 66021 Saarbr=FCcken phone: 0681/8319664 mobil: 0177/9738644 @: m i c h a e l . s c h u h @ g m a i l . c o m =3D=3D=3D Ust-ID: DE251072318 =3D=3D=3D From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 14:57:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27A4106569B for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:57:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wolf@k18.ch) Received: from mail.k18.ch (mail.k18.ch [62.2.143.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C388FC14 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:57:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wolf@k18.ch) Received: (qmail 30551 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2008 14:31:02 -0000 Received: (simscan 1.3.1 ppid 30475 pid 30548 t 0.0214s) (scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.94/m:46/d:6806); 13 Oct 0108 14:31:02 -0000 Received: from suresh.atel.k18.ch (HELO [172.16.10.56]) (Authenticated_MSA:wolf@[172.16.10.56]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.k18.ch (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 13 Oct 2008 14:31:02 -0000 Message-ID: <48F35B8E.5000709@k18.ch> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:30:38 +0200 From: Alain Wolf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080227 Lightning/0.8 Thunderbird/2.0.0.12 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <1dbad3150810130523i5d0b4dffr94440a59d9bf9d26@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1dbad3150810130523i5d0b4dffr94440a59d9bf9d26@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=6CB1BC68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Suhosin Segmentation Fault X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:57:22 -0000 On 13.10.2008 09:49, Alain Wolf wrote: > The trick found in this forum, to load the Suhosin extension before all > other PHP extensions in /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini does not help. > In fact not loading any extension at all except Suhosin creates the > segfault errors. On 13.10.2008 14:23, Michael Schuh wrote: >> 1. Suhosin Segmentation Fault >> > > Hello Alain, > Hello @list, > > try to change the order of loading the php-modules.....they could get not > loaded > with respects to their dependencies....one possibility > in my case it has helped.... > if i remember right :/usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini > is to edit.... > > greetings > > michael > > Hello Michael We tried that already. As soon as the line "extension=suhosin.so" is present anywhere in the file, the apache-children crash. cat /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini extension=gd.so extension=ctype.so extension=pcre.so extension=session.so extension=bz2.so extension=openssl.so extension=zlib.so extension=mbstring.so extension=mysql.so extension=pdf.so extension=mcrypt.so extension=simplexml.so extension=spl.so extension=mysqli.so extension=xml.so extension=iconv.so extension=hash.so extension=tokenizer.so extension=calendar.so extension=ftp.so extension=xmlrpc.so extension=xmlwriter.so extension=zip.so extension=filter.so ;extension=suhosin.so extension=wddx.so extension=mhash.so extension=json.so extension=dom.so extension=xmlreader.so extension=exif.so extension=ncurses.so extension=gettext.so extension=ldap.so extension=pdo.so extension=soap.so extension=tidy.so extension=pdo_sqlite.so extension=apc.so extension=readline.so extension=xsl.so extension=curl.so Regards Alain From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 14 19:01:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8AF1065686 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:01:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce-20-350175847@trakken.google.com) Received: from smtp-out3.google.com (smtp-out3.google.com [216.239.45.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB828FC13 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:01:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounce-20-350175847@trakken.google.com) Received: from spaceape15.eur.corp.google.com (spaceape15.eur.corp.google.com [172.28.16.149]) by smtp-out3.google.com with ESMTP id m9EIpWd6008817 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:51:33 -0700 Received: from zps36.corp.google.com (zps36.corp.google.com [172.25.146.36]) by spaceape15.eur.corp.google.com with SMTP id m9EIpVp9016030; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:51:32 +0100 Received: from xpb20.mtv.corp.google.com (xpb20.mtv.corp.google.com [172.25.56.84]) by zps36.corp.google.com with ESMTP id m9EIpUPd017116 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:51:30 -0700 Received: (from trakken-corp@localhost) by xpb20.mtv.corp.google.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) id m9EIpTep032065 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:51:29 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:51:23 -0000 From: "Copyright Service" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <#14.14df4267.de3e6d8.48f4ea2b.a8b@google.trakken.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <20081014185114.43C6940005@sjl-mbox1.sjl.youtube.com> User-Agent: Neotonic Trakken/inject_gmr-2.56.1 Precedence: bulk Auto-Submitted: auto-replied Subject: Re: Failed (copyright@youtube.com) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:01:49 -0000 This is an automated response to let you know that your message has been caught by our spam filter. 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From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 15 06:55:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115A5106569B for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 06:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hwahing@smartteam.net) Received: from mozart.smartteam.net (mozart.smartteam.net [202.186.153.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740148FC19 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 06:55:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hwahing@smartteam.net) Received: from mozart.smartteam.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mozart.smartteam.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9F6Q9v3029134; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:26:09 +0800 Received: from [192.168.1.108] ( [60.53.167.9]) by mozart.smartteam.net (Scalix SMTP Relay 11.4.1.11855) via ESMTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:26:09 +0800 (MYT) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:26:10 +0800 From: Ling Hwa Hing To: internet-drafts@ietf.org Message-ID: <48F58D02.8030704@smartteam.net> In-Reply-To: <20081015052531.BD1393A67E7@core3.amsl.com> References: <20081015052531.BD1393A67E7@core3.amsl.com> x-scalix-Hops: 1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Confirm: internet-drafts@ietf.org:RHQRYmSPV-yw:yi_KDYE4_ERYkqGKUbJT8M_G0wmQNxygocI1-Q X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 06:55:54 -0000 internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > Confirmation of list posting -- confirmation ID: RHQRYmSPV-yw > > The ietf.org mailing-list server has received a list posting from > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org to internet-drafts@ietf.org with the subject > 'fake' > > As the sender address isn't subscribed to the list, and has not been > confirmed earlier, we have to request a confirmation of the address. > To confirm the address, send a message to internet-drafts@ietf.org, > with the same subject line as this message. > > (Simply sending a 'reply' to this message should work from most email > interfaces, since that usually leaves the subject line in the right > form. 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Questions to postmaster@ietf.org. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 16 18:17:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC5E106568F for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:17:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: from psknet.com (kennedy.psknet.com [8.224.112.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BCBF8FC20 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:17:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: from pool-151-199-88-36.roa.east.verizon.net ([151.199.88.36] helo=[192.168.0.4]) by psknet.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KqXPo-0003Dn-D1 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:17:41 -0400 Message-ID: <48F7852D.2080809@psknet.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:17:17 -0400 From: Troy Settle User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ANTISPAM: Message sent from an authenticated user X-Virus-Scan: Clear (ClamAV 0.94/8435/Thu Oct 16 13:00:44 2008) Subject: slow file access X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:17:42 -0000 All, I have a 4-STABLE box that's been in service for 5+ years. Yes, I know it's old, but it's been rock-solid, and migration to a new server would take days to accomplish, but I fear that's what I'm faced with.. Specs on the server: Dual Xeon 2.8Ghz / 4GB / ~35GB RAID-1 (system) / ~105GB RAID-5 (mail storage) For the last week or so, I've been getting spurts of MySQL connection failures in my mail logs, but the total number of connections never even comes close the max connections allowed for the server. Occasionally, our website will appear to completely stall for a few seconds, and most frustrating of all, when I'm poking around in a shell, things will sometimes hang for several seconds while performing certain tasks (like cd, ls, tail, etc...). Even top took like 8 seconds to start displaying a process list. According to raidutil, both raid volumes are optimal. Nothing shows up in syslog. Here's some info from top(1): last pid: 8799; load averages: 0.20, 0.43, 0.38 up 35+23:48:22 14:11:46 263 processes: 2 running, 261 sleeping Mem: 1027M Active, 2100M Inact, 393M Wired, 178M Cache, 199M Buf, 75M Free Swap: 4096M Total, 72K Used, 4096M Free I'm at a loss as to what I should look at next... anyone have any suggestions before I commit myself to a VERY long weekend moving everything to a new box? Thanks, -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks 866.477.5638