From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 05:51:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818E4106566B for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 05:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lambert@lambertfam.org) Received: from sysmon.tcworks.net (sysmon.tcworks.net [65.66.76.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F0A8FC18 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 05:51:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lambert@lambertfam.org) Received: from sysmon.tcworks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sysmon.tcworks.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m4J5H79m036746 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 00:17:07 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lambert@lambertfam.org) Received: (from lambert@localhost) by sysmon.tcworks.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m4J5H7cl036745 for freebsd-jail@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 May 2008 00:17:07 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lambert@lambertfam.org) X-Authentication-Warning: sysmon.tcworks.net: lambert set sender to lambert@lambertfam.org using -f Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 00:17:07 -0500 From: Scott Lambert To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080519051707.GA23266@sysmon.tcworks.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: Signal 11 messages showing in all jails? X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 05:51:17 -0000 Is this supposed to happen? FreeBSD 6.2 order.cgi is only installed in one jail on this system, but I see this report in all the jail on that system. The below lines are from the daily security run output for one of the other jails. I just want to make sure this is operating as expected rather than a bug. hostname kernel log messages: +++ /tmp/security.okyw840z Mon May 19 03:01:03 2008 +pid 60995 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 60996 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61001 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61002 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61007 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61008 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61013 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61014 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61019 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61020 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61025 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61032 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61051 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61052 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61061 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61068 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61069 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61070 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61072 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61075 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61083 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61088 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61089 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61090 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61092 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +pid 61095 (order.cgi), uid 80: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) +em0: link state changed to DOWN +em0: link state changed to UP +em0: link state changed to DOWN +em0: link state changed to UP +em0: link state changed to DOWN +em0: link state changed to UP +em0: link state changed to DOWN +em0: link state changed to UP -- Scott Lambert KC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lambert@lambertfam.org From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 08:38:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDB9106566B for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 08:38:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F278FC12 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 08:38:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p54A56B86.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.107.134]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9640D2E098; Mon, 19 May 2008 10:38:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB88105A04; Mon, 19 May 2008 10:38:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id m4J8cDoU004590; Mon, 19 May 2008 10:38:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from pslux.cec.eu.int (pslux.cec.eu.int [158.169.9.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Mon, 19 May 2008 10:38:13 +0200 Message-ID: <20080519103813.16651fkml5bc00v4@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 10:38:13 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Scott Lambert References: <20080519051707.GA23266@sysmon.tcworks.net> In-Reply-To: <20080519051707.GA23266@sysmon.tcworks.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.2-RC2) / FreeBSD-8.0 X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, ORDB-RBL, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-14.9, required 6, BAYES_00 -15.00, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Signal 11 messages showing in all jails? X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 08:38:22 -0000 Quoting Scott Lambert (from Mon, 19 May 2008 00:17:07 -0500): > Is this supposed to happen? FreeBSD 6.2 > > order.cgi is only installed in one jail on this system, but I see > this report in all the jail on that system. The below lines are from > the daily security run output for one of the other jails. > > I just want to make sure this is operating as expected rather than a > bug. It's not only the signal 11 messages, it's all kernel messages. There's no jail filter for the kernel messages, so this is expected behavior (this doesn't mean this behavior is the right one). Bye, Alexander. -- Most people need some of their problems to help take their mind off some of the others. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID = B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID = 72077137 From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 11:04:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0151065670 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 11:04:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@modulus.org) Received: from email.octopus.com.au (host-122-100-2-232.octopus.com.au [122.100.2.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41DDA8FC19 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 11:04:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@modulus.org) Received: by email.octopus.com.au (Postfix, from userid 1002) id C47A017350; Mon, 19 May 2008 20:49:26 +1000 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on email.octopus.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.3 Received: from [10.20.30.101] (60.218.233.220.exetel.com.au [220.233.218.60]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: admin@email.octopus.com.au) by email.octopus.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FA01720E; Mon, 19 May 2008 20:49:22 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <48315B2E.5010500@modulus.org> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 20:49:18 +1000 From: Andrew Snow User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org References: <20080519051707.GA23266@sysmon.tcworks.net> <20080519103813.16651fkml5bc00v4@webmail.leidinger.net> In-Reply-To: <20080519103813.16651fkml5bc00v4@webmail.leidinger.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Signal 11 messages showing in all jails? X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:04:49 -0000 Here are the devfs rules I use, which is one workaround for the problem (among other things..) "hide", "path null unhide", "path zero unhide", "path crypto unhide", "path random unhide", "path urandom unhide", "path 'ptyp*' unhide", "path 'ptyq*' unhide", "path 'ptyr*' unhide", "path 'ptys*' unhide", "path 'ptyP*' unhide", "path 'ptyQ*' unhide", "path 'ptyR*' unhide", "path 'ptyS*' unhide", "path 'ttyp*' unhide", "path 'ttyq*' unhide", "path 'ttyr*' unhide", "path 'ttys*' unhide", "path 'ttyP*' unhide", "path 'ttyQ*' unhide", "path 'ttyR*' unhide", "path 'ttyS*' unhide", "path fd unhide", "path 'fd/*' unhide", "path stdin unhide", "path stdout unhide", "path stderr unhide" From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 11:06:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71052106567C for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 11:06:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581B58FC1C for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 11:06:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4JB6tZ0011626 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 11:06:55 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m4JB6s4B011622 for freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 19 May 2008 11:06:54 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:06:54 GMT Message-Id: <200805191106.m4JB6s4B011622@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:06:55 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s kern/89528 jail [jail] [patch] impossible to kill a jail o kern/119842 jail [smbfs] [jail] "Bad address" with smbfs inside a jail 2 problems total. Non-critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o bin/32828 jail [jail] w(1) incorrectly handles stale utmp slots with o kern/68192 jail [quotas] [jail] Cannot use quotas on jailed systems o kern/72498 jail [libc] [jail] timestamp code on jailed SMP machine gen o kern/74314 jail [resolver] [jail] DNS resolver broken under certain ja o kern/84215 jail [jail] [patch] wildcard ip (INADDR_ANY) should not bin o kern/89989 jail [jail] [patch] Add option -I (ASCII 73) PID to specif o kern/97071 jail [jail] [patch] add security.jail.jid sysctl o bin/99566 jail [jail] [patch] fstat(1) according to specified jid o bin/119305 jail [jail] [patch] jexec(8): jexec -n prisonname: selectio o kern/120753 jail [jail] Zombie jails (jailed child process exits while 10 problems total. From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 11:08:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ADD61065675 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 11:08:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@modulus.org) Received: from email.octopus.com.au (host-122-100-2-232.octopus.com.au [122.100.2.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D0F8FC21 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 11:08:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@modulus.org) Received: by email.octopus.com.au (Postfix, from userid 1002) id DC09B17350; Mon, 19 May 2008 21:08:47 +1000 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on email.octopus.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.3 Received: from [10.20.30.101] (60.218.233.220.exetel.com.au [220.233.218.60]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: admin@email.octopus.com.au) by email.octopus.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985151720E; Mon, 19 May 2008 21:08:43 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <48315FB6.7070103@modulus.org> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 21:08:38 +1000 From: Andrew Snow User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org References: <20080519051707.GA23266@sysmon.tcworks.net> <20080519103813.16651fkml5bc00v4@webmail.leidinger.net> In-Reply-To: <20080519103813.16651fkml5bc00v4@webmail.leidinger.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Signal 11 messages showing in all jails? X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:08:49 -0000 Sorry for previous message, it wasn't devfs rules at all that solved this problem. Instead you should set this in /etc/sysctl.conf: security.bsd.unprivileged_read_msgbuf=0 From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 13:17:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C14C106570A for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 13:17:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5948FC12 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 13:17:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p54A56EC5.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.110.197]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6082E173; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:17:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DDB61050F3; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:17:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id m4JDHIX6051168; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:17:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from pslux.cec.eu.int (pslux.cec.eu.int [158.169.9.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:17:18 +0200 Message-ID: <20080519151718.54449sqj560rkgyo@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 15:17:18 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Andrew Snow References: <20080519051707.GA23266@sysmon.tcworks.net> <20080519103813.16651fkml5bc00v4@webmail.leidinger.net> <48315FB6.7070103@modulus.org> In-Reply-To: <48315FB6.7070103@modulus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.2-RC2) / FreeBSD-8.0 X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, ORDB-RBL, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-14.823, required 6, BAYES_00 -15.00, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10, TW_EV 0.08) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Signal 11 messages showing in all jails? X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 13:17:30 -0000 Quoting Andrew Snow (from Mon, 19 May 2008 =20 21:08:38 +1000): > > Sorry for previous message, it wasn't devfs rules at all that solved =20 > this problem. The rules you posted are part of some kind of workaround. The rules =20 didn't include the "syslog pipe" for kernel messages (depends upon =20 your version of FreeBSD), so there should be no messages from the =20 kernel (like sig 11) in the syslog anymore with this. > Instead you should set this in /etc/sysctl.conf: > > security.bsd.unprivileged_read_msgbuf=3D0 This also has implication for the jail-host. You need to be root to =20 read the dmesg. All this is just a workaround, but not really a solution to the =20 problem. Ideally each jail gets messages from the kernel which =20 _belong_ into this jail (e.g. sig 11, if a process from _this_ jail =20 dies in this way). Bye, Alexander. --=20 Pure drivel tends to drive ordinary drivel off the TV screen. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137 From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 20 14:33:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB81106567E for ; Tue, 20 May 2008 14:33:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jorge@bsdchile.cl) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EBE08FC13 for ; Tue, 20 May 2008 14:33:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jorge@bsdchile.cl) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j4so2175608wah.3 for ; Tue, 20 May 2008 07:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.110.12 with SMTP id i12mr8895234wac.73.1211292518769; Tue, 20 May 2008 07:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.55.5 with HTTP; Tue, 20 May 2008 07:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <28d0e6b80805200708v452eb0f8o616aff50fc6120a4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 10:08:38 -0400 From: "Jorge Medina" To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: FreeBSD 7 -STABLE with cpu and memory limits X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 14:33:51 -0000 this patch (http://wiki.freebsd.org/JailResourceLimits) work on FreeBSD 7 amd64? somebody have a test behavior --=20 Jorge Andr=E9s Medina Oliva. Systems Manager and Developer. BSDCHiLE. From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 22 07:25:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6051065670 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 07:25:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@pean.org) Received: from proxy3.bredband.net (proxy3.bredband.net [195.54.101.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E18C8FC14 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 07:25:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@pean.org) Received: from ironport.bredband.com (195.54.101.120) by proxy3.bredband.net (7.3.127) id 481183EA0081B9E4; Thu, 22 May 2008 09:05:24 +0200 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvtYAL+3NEhV4WMOPGdsb2JhbACBVYcliTABAQEBLZ0B Received: from c-0e63e155.166-7-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO pi.pean.org) ([85.225.99.14]) by ironport1.bredband.com with ESMTP; 22 May 2008 09:05:24 +0200 Message-Id: <822C1BB6-3591-4CE1-AFEA-8B07B9F5ED8D@pean.org> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Peter_Ankerst=E5l?= To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 09:05:23 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: Subject: Jail resource limits X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 07:25:30 -0000 http://wiki.freebsd.org/JailResourceLimits Is this anthing people are working on? Is it on its way to RELENG_7? Is there a 7-version of the patch or anything? This would be a _VERY_ useful feature. -- Peter Ankerst=E5l peter@pean.org From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 22 11:19:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369B9106566B; Thu, 22 May 2008 11:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (elsa.codelab.cz [91.103.162.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E328C8FC1E; Thu, 22 May 2008 11:19:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: from localhost (localhost.codelab.cz [127.0.0.1]) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id C065A19E02A; Thu, 22 May 2008 13:19:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (r5bb235.net.upc.cz [86.49.61.235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 43DA819E023; Thu, 22 May 2008 13:19:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <483556DB.9070602@quip.cz> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:19:55 +0200 From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050915 X-Accept-Language: cz, cs, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Peter_Ankerst=E5l?= References: <822C1BB6-3591-4CE1-AFEA-8B07B9F5ED8D@pean.org> In-Reply-To: <822C1BB6-3591-4CE1-AFEA-8B07B9F5ED8D@pean.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jail resource limits X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:19:42 -0000 Peter Ankerstål wrote: > http://wiki.freebsd.org/JailResourceLimits > > Is this anthing people are working on? Is it on its way to RELENG_7? > Is there a 7-version of the patch or anything? This would be a _VERY_ > useful feature. Hi, AFAIK nobody is working on it. A year ago there was newer release of the patch against CURRENT at that time (FreeBSD 7) [1] http://www.ualberta.ca/~cdjones/jail-cpumem-current.tgz I never test this patch on current, only version for 6.x and if patch for current were made without improvements, it contains same bugs as patch for 6.x (eg.: not showing memory usage). There are some other guys trying to do the same, but I never saw patches published. Andrew Snow - Jails as a VPS [2] Alex Lyashkov - Jail2 aka FreeVPS [3a][3b] Or fixes for C.D. Jones work: Chris Thunes - jtune not showing resource usage - fixed [4] (note - attached patch is reversed) [5] So as you can see, there were some talks about Jail improvements for one year existence of this mailinglist (freebsd-jail@freebsd.org), also it is two years from SoC [6] and we still don't have anything commited to 7.x or to CURRENT. It is sad. There is little attention to jails, only few people are able to do some coding work etc. If the are somebody with skills and time to resurrect some mentioned projects, I am willing to help with testing. Also it will be good to have some up-to-date wiki page with "all the patches" (resource limits, SysV IPC, multiple IPs...) and status of this work, so people can easily find and try it. Miroslav Lachman [1] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2007-June/000030.html [2] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2008-January/000152.html [3a] http://docs.freevps.com/doku.php?id=freebsd:index [3b] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2006-June/005293.html [4] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2007-August/000060.html [5] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2007-September/000101.html [6] http://wiki.freebsd.org/JailResourceLimits Other links: jail services: http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsiaBSDCon_2007_DevSummit?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=jail_services.pdf kernel level virtualisation requirements: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2007-October/006872.html From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 22 11:31:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC399106566B for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 11:31:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820B48FC17 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 11:31:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p54A5613E.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.97.62]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136942E084; Thu, 22 May 2008 13:31:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26826112A6A; Thu, 22 May 2008 13:31:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id m4MBVF1T078663; Thu, 22 May 2008 13:31:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from pslux.cec.eu.int (pslux.cec.eu.int [158.169.9.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Thu, 22 May 2008 13:31:15 +0200 Message-ID: <20080522133115.84622rwkp784zi04@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:31:15 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> References: <822C1BB6-3591-4CE1-AFEA-8B07B9F5ED8D@pean.org> <483556DB.9070602@quip.cz> In-Reply-To: <483556DB.9070602@quip.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.2-RC2) / FreeBSD-8.0 X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, ORDB-RBL, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-14.9, required 6, BAYES_00 -15.00, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, Peter =?utf-8?b?QW5rZXJzdMOlbA==?= Subject: Re: Jail resource limits X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:31:24 -0000 Quoting Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> (from Thu, 22 May 2008 =20 13:19:55 +0200): > Peter Ankerst=C3=A5l wrote: >> http://wiki.freebsd.org/JailResourceLimits > If the are somebody with skills and time to resurrect some mentioned =20 > projects, I am willing to help with testing. > > Also it will be good to have some up-to-date wiki page with "all the =20 > patches" (resource limits, SysV IPC, multiple IPs...) and status of =20 > this work, so people can easily find and try it. Are you willing to update the existing wiki page? If yes register to =20 the wiki (default style would be MiroslavLachman as the username) and =20 I give you write access to the page. Bye, Alexander. --=20 Please take note: http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137 From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 22 14:50:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32E110656AF; Thu, 22 May 2008 14:50:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@pean.org) Received: from proxy2.bredband.net (proxy2.bredband.net [195.54.101.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A91258FC27; Thu, 22 May 2008 14:50:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@pean.org) Received: from ironport.bredband.com (195.54.101.120) by proxy2.bredband.net (7.3.127) id 481183330084CD33; Thu, 22 May 2008 16:50:44 +0200 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlpAADMlNUhV4WMOPGdsb2JhbACBVZBVAQEBAS2cYQ Received: from c-0e63e155.166-7-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO pi.pean.org) ([85.225.99.14]) by ironport1.bredband.com with ESMTP; 22 May 2008 16:50:43 +0200 Message-Id: <08244555-5BD2-4F67-B311-CCC5E316A068@pean.org> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Peter_Ankerst=E5l?= To: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> In-Reply-To: <483556DB.9070602@quip.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 16:50:42 +0200 References: <822C1BB6-3591-4CE1-AFEA-8B07B9F5ED8D@pean.org> <483556DB.9070602@quip.cz> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jail resource limits X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 14:50:47 -0000 > > > If the are somebody with skills and time to resurrect some mentioned =20= > projects, I am willing to help with testing. > I will also be happy to help in whatever way I can. I have no coding-=20 experience to talk about. But testing in various env and so on. (and help with docs/wiki) -- Peter Ankerst=E5l peter@pean.org From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 22 17:15:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED49106567A; Thu, 22 May 2008 17:15:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mail.cksoft.de (mail.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFEF18FC16; Thu, 22 May 2008 17:14:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from localhost (amavis.str.cksoft.de [192.168.74.71]) by mail.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E310341C72C; Thu, 22 May 2008 18:56:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cksoft.de Received: from mail.cksoft.de ([62.111.66.27]) by localhost (amavis.str.cksoft.de [192.168.74.71]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WCtwr35G2dtZ; Thu, 22 May 2008 18:56:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id 8F4A141C729; Thu, 22 May 2008 18:56:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net (maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net [10.111.66.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CD444487F; Thu, 22 May 2008 16:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 16:55:57 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-X-Sender: bz@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Peter_Ankerst=E5l?= In-Reply-To: <08244555-5BD2-4F67-B311-CCC5E316A068@pean.org> Message-ID: <20080522165219.D47338@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> References: <822C1BB6-3591-4CE1-AFEA-8B07B9F5ED8D@pean.org> <483556DB.9070602@quip.cz> <08244555-5BD2-4F67-B311-CCC5E316A068@pean.org> X-OpenPGP-Key: 0x14003F198FEFA3E77207EE8D2B58B8F83CCF1842 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-248603948-1211475357=:47338" Cc: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" , freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jail resource limits X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 17:15:01 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-248603948-1211475357=:47338 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Thu, 22 May 2008, Peter Ankerst=E5l wrote: Hi, >> If the are somebody with skills and time to resurrect some mentioned=20 >> projects, I am willing to help with testing. >>=20 > I will also be happy to help in whatever way I can. I have no=20 > coding-experience to talk about. But testing in various env > and so on. (and help with docs/wiki) I will have to go through all this again but it seems that there is more interest from multiple people on this work. As I am currently working on FreeBSD jails (see latetst status report http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2008-01-2008-03.html#Multi-IPv4/v= 6/no-IP-jails and follow to my homepage to also find the slide from the BSDCan WIP session) I should look into this for everyone running FreeBSD 7. I'll try to get an overview on all the work out there based on the pointers already posted and will see how I can integrate that with whatever is going on in FreeBSD atm or come up with new patches.. Regards, Bjoern --=20 Bjoern A. Zeeb Stop bit received. Insert coin for new game. --0-248603948-1211475357=:47338-- From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 22 17:42:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295D5106564A; Thu, 22 May 2008 17:42:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=1028112938=killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from mail1.multiplay.co.uk (core6.multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A5A8FC1B; Thu, 22 May 2008 17:42:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=1028112938=killing@multiplay.co.uk) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=multiplay.co.uk; s=Multiplay; t=1211477021; x=1212081821; q=dns/txt; h=Received: Message-ID:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; bh=kljPJJlvNPHvYO18iQDJF fpxv9QzHhfKtFItIU/vNF0=; b=Iz90YdCBgkgcf/+EShy/1JgEWgTbiB4vyVBCc JehJJKchczl6aP7dRaqy/1qyggPqTcb+mAgLLRBSVywL/pQ2PFFWGXKxjxLT7im9 myGpnSQRH6zewgWC33oT+UxBGb8+pPihWXEd0Y3R6BVMlgLkvjZg1D8h6abkWdZb Ys/WTY= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on mail1.multiplay.co.uk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.7 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_00, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, USER_IN_WHITELIST,USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from r2d2 by mail1.multiplay.co.uk (MDaemon PRO v9.6.5) with ESMTP id md50005653894.msg; Thu, 22 May 2008 18:23:40 +0100 X-Authenticated-Sender: Killing@multiplay.co.uk X-MDRemoteIP: 212.135.219.182 X-Return-Path: prvs=1028112938=killing@multiplay.co.uk X-Envelope-From: killing@multiplay.co.uk Message-ID: <8068148B75CB4B3E953144A0DF47E496@multiplay.co.uk> From: "Steven Hartland" To: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Peter_Ankerst=E5l?= References: <822C1BB6-3591-4CE1-AFEA-8B07B9F5ED8D@pean.org><483556DB.9070602@quip.cz><08244555-5BD2-4F67-B311-CCC5E316A068@pean.org> <20080522165219.D47338@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 18:23:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 X-Spam-Processed: mail1.multiplay.co.uk, Thu, 22 May 2008 18:23:41 +0100 X-MDAV-Processed: mail1.multiplay.co.uk, Thu, 22 May 2008 18:23:41 +0100 Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, "Bjoern A. Zeeb" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jail resource limits X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 17:42:40 -0000 This is something we're really looking forward to tbh a great feature :) One of the reasons for this is hosting jails, with the addition of multi IP support we will be able to enable jails to connect to "backdoor" secure services such as a mysql server. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" I will have to go through all this again but it seems that there is more interest from multiple people on this work. As I am currently working on FreeBSD jails (see latetst status report http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2008-01-2008-03.html#Multi-IPv4/v6/no-IP-jails and follow to my homepage to also find the slide from the BSDCan WIP session) I should look into this for everyone running FreeBSD 7. I'll try to get an overview on all the work out there based on the pointers already posted and will see how I can integrate that with whatever is going on in FreeBSD atm or come up with new patches.. ================================================ This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmaster@multiplay.co.uk. From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 22 17:47:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B63E1065670 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 17:47:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cthunes@tqhosting.com) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7EE8FC13 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 17:47:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cthunes@tqhosting.com) Received: from [192.168.16.3] (really [75.182.109.34]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20080522164039.VXCK15993.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@[192.168.16.3]>; Thu, 22 May 2008 16:40:39 +0000 Message-ID: <4835A207.8080404@tqhosting.com> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 12:40:39 -0400 From: Christopher Thunes User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070604) To: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> References: <822C1BB6-3591-4CE1-AFEA-8B07B9F5ED8D@pean.org> <483556DB.9070602@quip.cz> In-Reply-To: <483556DB.9070602@quip.cz> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jail resource limits X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 17:47:38 -0000 I should be working on getting this working on 7.0-RELEASE in the next few weeks and will post if I'm able to get anywhere with it. - Chris Thunes Miroslav Lachman wrote: Peter Ankerstål wrote: [1]http://wiki.freebsd.org/JailResourceLimits Is this anthing people are working on? Is it on its way to RELENG_7? Is there a 7-version of the patch or anything? This would be a _VERY_ useful feature. Hi, AFAIK nobody is working on it. A year ago there was newer release of the patch against CURRENT at that time (FreeBSD 7) [1] [2]http://www.ualberta.ca/~cdjones/jail-cpumem-current.tgz I never test this patch on current, only version for 6.x and if patch for current were made without improvements, it contains same bugs as patch for 6.x (eg.: not showing memory usage). There are some other guys trying to do the same, but I never saw patches published. Andrew Snow - Jails as a VPS [2] Alex Lyashkov - Jail2 aka FreeVPS [3a][3b] Or fixes for C.D. Jones work: Chris Thunes - jtune not showing resource usage - fixed [4] (note - attached patch is reversed) [5] So as you can see, there were some talks about Jail improvements for one year existence of this mailinglist ([3]freebsd-jail@freebsd.org), also it is two years from SoC [6] and we still don't have anything commited to 7.x or to CURRENT. It is sad. There is little attention to jails, only few people are able to do some coding work etc. If the are somebody with skills and time to resurrect some mentioned projects, I am willing to help with testing. Also it will be good to have some up-to-date wiki page with "all the patches" (resource limits, SysV IPC, multiple IPs...) and status of this work, so people can easily find and try it. Miroslav Lachman [1] [4]http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2007-June/000030 .html [2] [5]http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2008-January/000 152.html [3a] [6]http://docs.freevps.com/doku.php?id=freebsd:index [3b] [7]http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2006-June/005293 .html [4] [8]http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2007-August/0000 60.html [5] [9]http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2007-September/0 00101.html [6] [10]http://wiki.freebsd.org/JailResourceLimits Other links: jail services: [11]http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsiaBSDCon_2007_DevSummit?action=Attach File&do=get&target=jail_services.pdf kernel level virtualisation requirements: [12]http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2007-October/00 6872.html _______________________________________________ [13]freebsd-jail@freebsd.org mailing list [14]http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail To unsubscribe, send any mail to [15]"freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" References 1. http://wiki.freebsd.org/JailResourceLimits 2. http://www.ualberta.ca/~cdjones/jail-cpumem-current.tgz 3. mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org 4. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2007-June/000030.html 5. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2008-January/000152.html 6. http://docs.freevps.com/doku.php?id=freebsd:index 7. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2006-June/005293.html 8. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2007-August/000060.html 9. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2007-September/000101.html 10. http://wiki.freebsd.org/JailResourceLimits 11. http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsiaBSDCon_2007_DevSummit?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=jail_services.pdf 12. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2007-October/006872.html 13. mailto:freebsd-jail@freebsd.org 14. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail 15. mailto:freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 22 22:32:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 771D81065671 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 22:32:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (elsa.codelab.cz [91.103.162.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33EBD8FC13 for ; Thu, 22 May 2008 22:32:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: from localhost (localhost.codelab.cz [127.0.0.1]) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25C519E023; Fri, 23 May 2008 00:32:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (r5bb235.net.upc.cz [86.49.61.235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 961A019E019; Fri, 23 May 2008 00:32:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4835F48C.5080303@quip.cz> Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 00:32:44 +0200 From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050915 X-Accept-Language: cz, cs, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Leidinger References: <822C1BB6-3591-4CE1-AFEA-8B07B9F5ED8D@pean.org> <483556DB.9070602@quip.cz> <20080522133115.84622rwkp784zi04@webmail.leidinger.net> In-Reply-To: <20080522133115.84622rwkp784zi04@webmail.leidinger.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jail resource limits X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 22:32:32 -0000 Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Quoting Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> (from Thu, 22 May 2008 > 13:19:55 +0200): > >> Peter AnkerstÃ¥l wrote: >> >>> http://wiki.freebsd.org/JailResourceLimits > > >> If the are somebody with skills and time to resurrect some mentioned >> projects, I am willing to help with testing. >> >> Also it will be good to have some up-to-date wiki page with "all the >> patches" (resource limits, SysV IPC, multiple IPs...) and status of >> this work, so people can easily find and try it. > > > Are you willing to update the existing wiki page? If yes register to > the wiki (default style would be MiroslavLachman as the username) and I > give you write access to the page. OK, I am registered now. Would you like me to edit existing JailResourceLimits page or would it be better to create new general page for Jail(s) similar to ZFS [1] page with table of patches and utilities extending existing jail implementation with status column, discription, authors etc., links to other pages with some useful informations and also with some "requests" area of users proposals that we can discuss here and try to find somebody willing to code / implement it? ;) The main goal could be to get more public attention for future Jail work and break current stagnation of commiting existing patches. Miroslav Lachman [1] http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFS From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 22 22:55:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91924106567C; Thu, 22 May 2008 22:55:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mail.cksoft.de (mail.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7998FC17; Thu, 22 May 2008 22:55:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from localhost (amavis.str.cksoft.de [192.168.74.71]) by mail.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836FF41C796; Fri, 23 May 2008 00:55:05 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cksoft.de Received: from mail.cksoft.de ([62.111.66.27]) by localhost (amavis.str.cksoft.de [192.168.74.71]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k1h+0IdifYX4; Fri, 23 May 2008 00:55:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id 2F4A841C7A3; Fri, 23 May 2008 00:55:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net (maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net [10.111.66.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1514B44487F; Thu, 22 May 2008 22:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 22:50:59 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-X-Sender: bz@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net To: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> In-Reply-To: <4835F48C.5080303@quip.cz> Message-ID: <20080522224614.K47338@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> References: <822C1BB6-3591-4CE1-AFEA-8B07B9F5ED8D@pean.org> <483556DB.9070602@quip.cz> <20080522133115.84622rwkp784zi04@webmail.leidinger.net> <4835F48C.5080303@quip.cz> X-OpenPGP-Key: 0x14003F198FEFA3E77207EE8D2B58B8F83CCF1842 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Alexander Leidinger , freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, "Bjoern A. Zeeb" Subject: Re: Jail resource limits X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 22:55:06 -0000 On Fri, 23 May 2008, Miroslav Lachman wrote: Hi, > Would you like me to edit existing JailResourceLimits page or would it be > better to create new general page for Jail(s) similar to ZFS [1] page with > table of patches and utilities extending existing jail implementation with > status column, discription, authors etc., links to other pages with some > useful informations and also with some "requests" area of users proposals > that we can discuss here and try to find somebody willing to code / implement > it? ;) I'd prefer it to be a separate page and leave Clif's GSoC page untouched apart from maybe adding a pointer to the new one. The person to talk to about implementation/integrations/coordination might be me. > The main goal could be to get more public attention for future Jail work and > break current stagnation of commiting existing patches. Future, as in after FreeBSD 7, virtualization work, might no longer be simply jails. There is more work in progress so the main target for this will be 7 with the plan to migrate as much as possible to whatever will be in 8. Regards, Bjoern -- Bjoern A. Zeeb Stop bit received. Insert coin for new game. From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 23 07:02:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3CFD1065671; Fri, 23 May 2008 07:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@pean.org) Received: from proxy3.bredband.net (proxy3.bredband.net [195.54.101.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC4F8FC1C; Fri, 23 May 2008 07:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@pean.org) Received: from ironport2.bredband.com (195.54.101.122) by proxy3.bredband.net (7.3.127) id 481183EA0087A5C4; Fri, 23 May 2008 09:02:37 +0200 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnQsAAMJNkhV4WMOPGdsb2JhbACBVZBYAQEBAS2dFw Received: from c-0e63e155.166-7-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO pi.pean.org) ([85.225.99.14]) by ironport2.bredband.com with ESMTP; 23 May 2008 09:02:37 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Peter_Ankerst=E5l?= To: Alexander Leidinger In-Reply-To: <20080522133115.84622rwkp784zi04@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <822C1BB6-3591-4CE1-AFEA-8B07B9F5ED8D@pean.org> <483556DB.9070602@quip.cz> <20080522133115.84622rwkp784zi04@webmail.leidinger.net> Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 09:02:37 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jail resource limits X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 07:02:39 -0000 On May 22, 2008, at 1:31 PM, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Quoting Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> (from Thu, 22 May 2008 =20 > 13:19:55 +0200): > >> Peter Ankerst=E5l wrote: >>> http://wiki.freebsd.org/JailResourceLimits > >> If the are somebody with skills and time to resurrect some =20 >> mentioned projects, I am willing to help with testing. >> >> Also it will be good to have some up-to-date wiki page with "all =20 >> the patches" (resource limits, SysV IPC, multiple IPs...) and =20 >> status of this work, so people can easily find and try it. > > Are you willing to update the existing wiki page? If yes register to =20= > the wiki (default style would be MiroslavLachman as the username) =20 > and I give you write access to the page. > Maybe it will be a good idea to create a new page that puts all jail-=20 stuff in one place. I mean, there is more to this then just resource =20 limits. -- Peter Ankerst=E5l peter@pean.org From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 23 08:41:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828141065676 for ; Fri, 23 May 2008 08:41:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4288FC18 for ; Fri, 23 May 2008 08:41:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p54A55717.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.87.23]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B09C52E159; Fri, 23 May 2008 10:41:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD5D10AD11; Fri, 23 May 2008 10:41:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id m4N8f9LZ096369; Fri, 23 May 2008 10:41:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from pslux.cec.eu.int (pslux.cec.eu.int [158.169.9.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Fri, 23 May 2008 10:41:09 +0200 Message-ID: <20080523104109.1864275fhgggkndw@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 10:41:09 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> References: <822C1BB6-3591-4CE1-AFEA-8B07B9F5ED8D@pean.org> <483556DB.9070602@quip.cz> <20080522133115.84622rwkp784zi04@webmail.leidinger.net> <4835F48C.5080303@quip.cz> In-Reply-To: <4835F48C.5080303@quip.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.2-RC2) / FreeBSD-8.0 X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, ORDB-RBL, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-14.9, required 6, BAYES_00 -15.00, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jail resource limits X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 08:41:24 -0000 Quoting Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> (from Fri, 23 May 2008 =20 00:32:44 +0200): > Alexander Leidinger wrote: >> Quoting Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> (from Thu, 22 May 2008 =20 >> 13:19:55 +0200): >> >>> Peter Ankerst=C3=A5l wrote: >>> >>>> http://wiki.freebsd.org/JailResourceLimits >> >> >>> If the are somebody with skills and time to resurrect some =20 >>> mentioned projects, I am willing to help with testing. >>> >>> Also it will be good to have some up-to-date wiki page with "all =20 >>> the patches" (resource limits, SysV IPC, multiple IPs...) and =20 >>> status of this work, so people can easily find and try it. >> >> >> Are you willing to update the existing wiki page? If yes register =20 >> to the wiki (default style would be MiroslavLachman as the =20 >> username) and I give you write access to the page. > > OK, I am registered now. I added MiroslavLachman to the contributors group and added an ACL to =20 the jail resource limits page so that contributors can write there. > Would you like me to edit existing JailResourceLimits page or would =20 > it be better to create new general page for Jail(s) similar to ZFS =20 > [1] page with table of patches and utilities extending existing jail =20 > implementation with status column, discription, authors etc., links Proceed like you think it's best, I don't want to put restrictions on =20 what you want to do. I suggest to extend the existing page with =20 suitable infos first. Bye, Alexander. --=20 People will accept your idea much more readily if you tell them Benjamin Franklin said it first. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137 From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 24 21:13:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2948E106566C for ; Sat, 24 May 2008 21:13:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (elsa.codelab.cz [91.103.162.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000478FC0A for ; Sat, 24 May 2008 21:13:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: from localhost (localhost.codelab.cz [127.0.0.1]) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id D977B19E023 for ; Sat, 24 May 2008 23:13:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (r5bb235.net.upc.cz [86.49.61.235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B9FA019E019 for ; Sat, 24 May 2008 23:13:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4838851D.9010007@quip.cz> Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 23:14:05 +0200 From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050915 X-Accept-Language: cz, cs, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: New wiki page - Jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 21:13:49 -0000 OK, I just started with some informations on http://wiki.freebsd.org/Jails So let me know what you think about it and do not hesitate with more ideas. Miroslav Lachman From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 24 21:35:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 261F4106568C for ; Sat, 24 May 2008 21:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mail.cksoft.de (mail.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2918FC23 for ; Sat, 24 May 2008 21:35:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from localhost (amavis.str.cksoft.de [192.168.74.71]) by mail.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB3541C752; Sat, 24 May 2008 23:35:05 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cksoft.de Received: from mail.cksoft.de ([62.111.66.27]) by localhost (amavis.str.cksoft.de [192.168.74.71]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zArrV2wrnKaM; Sat, 24 May 2008 23:35:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id 6E20D41C74D; Sat, 24 May 2008 23:35:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net (maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net [10.111.66.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B33944487F; Sat, 24 May 2008 21:33:48 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 21:33:47 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-X-Sender: bz@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net To: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> In-Reply-To: <4838851D.9010007@quip.cz> Message-ID: <20080524213123.E65662@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> References: <4838851D.9010007@quip.cz> X-OpenPGP-Key: 0x14003F198FEFA3E77207EE8D2B58B8F83CCF1842 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New wiki page - Jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 21:35:08 -0000 On Sat, 24 May 2008, Miroslav Lachman wrote: Hi, > I just started with some informations on http://wiki.freebsd.org/Jails > So let me know what you think about it and do not hesitate with more ideas. Thanks for the summary. Just on a sidenote: most of the 'Future plans' will never happen as part of jails but as part of a larger virtualization technique if they are going to happen at all. Basically virtualizing everything under the name of jails does ot make a lot of sense. At one point you want a hypervisor and simply boot different instances. /bz -- Bjoern A. Zeeb Stop bit received. Insert coin for new game. From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 24 21:45:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6293F1065683 for ; Sat, 24 May 2008 21:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (elsa.codelab.cz [91.103.162.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C028FC18 for ; Sat, 24 May 2008 21:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: from localhost (localhost.codelab.cz [127.0.0.1]) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134D419E019; Sat, 24 May 2008 23:45:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (r5bb235.net.upc.cz [86.49.61.235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0941B19E023; Sat, 24 May 2008 23:45:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48388C96.1050807@quip.cz> Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 23:45:58 +0200 From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050915 X-Accept-Language: cz, cs, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" References: <4838851D.9010007@quip.cz> <20080524213123.E65662@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> In-Reply-To: <20080524213123.E65662@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New wiki page - Jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 21:45:42 -0000 Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > On Sat, 24 May 2008, Miroslav Lachman wrote: > > Hi, > >> I just started with some informations on http://wiki.freebsd.org/Jails >> So let me know what you think about it and do not hesitate with more >> ideas. > > > Thanks for the summary. > > Just on a sidenote: most of the 'Future plans' will never happen as > part of jails but as part of a larger virtualization technique if they > are going to happen at all. > Basically virtualizing everything under the name of jails does ot make > a lot of sense. At one point you want a hypervisor and simply boot > different instances. Yes, I am aware of it. It is just a list of "known" feature requests. If you have some background knowledge of what and how is planned in FreeBSD for Jail or Vimage, please let me know and I can write some notes to each 'Future plan' item (someting like 'covered by Vimage' or 'will never appear in Jails' etc.) or you can do it yourself, if you have write access to the wiki page. Miroslav Lachman