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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 05:53:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F921065676 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 05:53:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lveax.m@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2BAA8FC19 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 05:53:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lveax.m@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so332263ana.13 for ; Sat, 24 May 2008 22:53:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=1cHtUTXx0efZ1X24B9dQccIwDSsKxpDBemG5Fmr2Ym4=; b=bzNP0zOr4bnpY1RT82z4sljOfllHLSSJlY43o/Dd0CyZVk5DuOTuQVKQR1v04kNGSNAAZKqYAkNNllxRE8U62dG/hTbNYJBJ/8ZC8ab7YFWKzsd9CaUAj2iVLYkldyYsA7k3nece1eqngQseNk2ESHIEnMN2TGyeiRUGRrqink8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OC3xY00koK5850SGHTb9FR9mzavzSJ97N+KbWf3Twpc5QEg5zmpIkTIdI2TYZPEG4AqczcyqtFRnFhuZ7ZaSKto1hwfL0QcVe3t2WAuE+G9BImJYjrwg1zlqm+UAtcIV2++sqiLUO4OnMCQFwTqsVfeMIbn5IS+Iro+4D4OAbjE= Received: by 10.100.173.9 with SMTP id v9mr1508834ane.39.1211693201720; Sat, 24 May 2008 22:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.37.12 with HTTP; Sat, 24 May 2008 22:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <576dcbc20805242226y410bb031l5cc4ac2c3d4eb9f3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 05:26:41 +0000 From: v To: "Radomir Skrbek" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error:make:don't know how to make buildkernel.stop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 05:53:21 -0000 On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Radomir Skrbek wrote: > For make buildkernel you must have source: > src-sys > src-base <<<<<<< > > I had the same problem. :-) > Synchronizing Your Source http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/synching.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 06:09:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4783D1065677 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 06:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978178FC17 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 06:09:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aquarius.dyndns.org (athedsl-285161.home.otenet.gr [85.73.161.135]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4P69Jth014462; Sun, 25 May 2008 09:09:19 +0300 Message-ID: <483902CC.5060208@otenet.gr> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 09:10:20 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrei Flame References: <246236.36136.qm@web57211.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <246236.36136.qm@web57211.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to mount memory stick on sony vaio laptop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 06:09:22 -0000 Andrei Flame wrote: >>> pci10: at device 3.2 (no driver >>> attached) >>> >>> >>> >> This is, I am afraid, your card reader device :( >> > > You're right about the device, thanks! My pciconf -lv > says: > > none2@pci0:10:3:2: class=0x018000 card=0x81ef104d > chip=0x803b104c rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Texas Instruments (TI)' > device = 'PCIxx12 Integrated Flash Media > Controller' > class = mass storage > > Any further suggestions? > AFAIK, there is no driver for this flash reader at the moment. As a workaround you could purchase one of these cheap usb card readers. These should work like usb flash drives. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 08:37:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB51F106564A for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 08:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronggui.huang@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428238FC1D for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 08:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronggui.huang@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so975391tid.3 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 01:37:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=2hyFHgulTJJkWevVqgiA7uGCJwW9y4+86emB+diObx4=; b=Zaq/4cTIQKEyjSx5balP7e0d6BO3D17MzOOI4P/UUWC8UnEclvERyP2pMiERt5cOaRHBepG1XvHlcToIAx75oRpnuRSaI72qAIpkHHOvMq80J9L6Fja6zlsaDQaLmYz1XCwHNdYp0+s27BGWdc6PcQdHq1FO8Y/EmCsZkQNQG9Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ffTIpcKxmqHAZdDXbQf3Rj16J0WGPbv7LsPuRj8avHEcC0wBkaIv5m52TyWr66qwo96qc+YJdseV+9Eloc3qHM81wexLDDDO7RV6jM3pxjcBZZXwO1P285w5t8mfS7rJZeZyhONM1o1UlnwREGQ8ItKC6VD3+dwCrsmhIJwO6jQ= Received: by 10.110.7.18 with SMTP id 18mr429731tig.39.1211703112002; Sun, 25 May 2008 01:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.53.16 with HTTP; Sun, 25 May 2008 01:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <38b9f0350805250111p50369e5ax2e5604500fd20f78@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 16:11:51 +0800 From: ronggui To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: core dumped with java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 08:37:48 -0000 Dear List, I upgraded to freebsd 7.0 yesterday. I have install /usr/ports/java/diablo-jre15/ using ports. Then, I run the following command, resulting errors. [wincent@PC-BSD]java -jar /usr/local/share/java/jabref/jabref.jar Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) Anyone know how to solve this problem? Thanks. -- HUANG Ronggui, Wincent http://ronggui.huang.googlepages.com/ Bachelor of Social Work, Fudan University, China Master of sociology, Fudan University, China Ph.D. Candidate, CityU of HK. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 08:43:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554FD106566C for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 08:43:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kyrreny@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150C08FC12 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 08:43:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kyrreny@broadpark.no) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from broadpark.no ([80.202.4.61]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0K1E005AKYR15840@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 May 2008 09:42:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [80.202.4.61] by osl1mux1.broadpark.no (mshttpd); Sun, 25 May 2008 09:42:37 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kyrre_Nyg=E5rd=22?= To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 09:42:37 +0200 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit) Content-language: en X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Cc: Subject: Can I Reinstall FreeBSD Over SSH? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 08:43:02 -0000 My server is getting kinda messy, but my ISP charges too much for a reinstall. Can I do this myself over SSH? Or perhaps there are ways to make ones system as clean as a fresh install? Thanks. Much obliged, Kyrre From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 09:18:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06E0106564A for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 09:18:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from web52109.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52109.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D1548FC23 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 09:18:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 5693 invoked by uid 60001); 25 May 2008 08:52:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Wf134oith1Ck+hNYmnY0kDBTFWiGIF1Nyrn+wGEVBqiSWDmAbRI1dtfxgjjsdl7DvqxAG04UTsEIatLl2rNLak57aRBwhN6FhUzSjz79r2f94pa0zKRxBxUUN/wL70U9fHnEaDUrA1C3smAVRBeEJk55QqmBhSzHp/jjqjy7Kto=; X-YMail-OSG: UBJRjjwVM1lQaCW9kgBJ1F0hm8aqtSEAlbl26DdvyWoLIGG1zvky6pLp0F10g5Sq9HR6xg59jXZ3AvASjrJuX_qkrp2.32.tPScy Received: from [70.190.145.127] by web52109.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 25 May 2008 01:52:05 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/975.41 YahooMailWebService/0.7.185 Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 01:52:05 -0700 (PDT) From: gahn To: freebsd general questions , free bsd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <77341.5393.qm@web52109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: FreeBSD crashed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 09:18:48 -0000 Hello all: My FreeBSD crashed. It boots fine but can't mount root directory. Here is the message: ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ... .... Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a Manual root filesystem specification: : Mount using filesystem eg. ufs:da0s1a ? List valid disk boot devices Abort manual input mountroot> /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Could any gurus here help me out this? I just want to save the files in the home directory so that I can rebuild the system. Regards Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 09:21:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 626D41065679 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 09:21:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrizach@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383898FC0C for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 09:21:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrizach@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1727197rvf.43 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 02:21:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Yc22EMfZauOY7n8KT2/yCn4S5hCzmt4K9dN9SYYuD/k=; b=IW+t9Y5hKcWC1Vz46zdPyaLmryVYZV8ipo+XH/4yHVd0fl6GSeWKCXkaj9BiltvsZs9rN/dSm5+72YNSUGYJqstpGyTBbfeH+DPxk6lWGm6A4k2a2RBnGrANmBjYMbh1z2E76vBaxydqi3lD4snfn2hVpk2w8/zLq9OUEP+2fjU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=I4X5AqMbuzieroi5CKZV1jOLH9bwIuBWxICVddT35CMeRdu8HCvoDF9etg8GQJOijXTrZM1F4Hg2lfvjIOUrB41iGPiWDJGdhlhvKkcR7c4txZnHxxVqVdTMRpu73YNMt1lIFgMaxWPB3n18zbvz795/PIH43r1Skxwyxwzldks= Received: by 10.140.125.1 with SMTP id x1mr1572136rvc.217.1211707298736; Sun, 25 May 2008 02:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.142.18 with HTTP; Sun, 25 May 2008 02:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4a89d1190805250221m65344017r9ff2ba4af2dd704d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 11:21:38 +0200 From: "Christian Zachariasen" To: ronggui , "FreeBSD Mailing Lists" In-Reply-To: <38b9f0350805250111p50369e5ax2e5604500fd20f78@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <38b9f0350805250111p50369e5ax2e5604500fd20f78@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: core dumped with java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 09:21:39 -0000 On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 10:11 AM, ronggui wrote: > Dear List, > > I upgraded to freebsd 7.0 yesterday. > > I have install /usr/ports/java/diablo-jre15/ using ports. Then, I run > the following command, resulting errors. > > [wincent@PC-BSD]java -jar /usr/local/share/java/jabref/jabref.jar > Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) > > Anyone know how to solve this problem? Thanks. > > -- > HUANG Ronggui, Wincent http://ronggui.huang.googlepages.com/ > Bachelor of Social Work, Fudan University, China > Master of sociology, Fudan University, China > Ph.D. Candidate, CityU of HK. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Does it segfault if you just run a class as you normally would? e.g what happens if you do the following: vi HelloWorld.java class HelloWorld { public static void main(String[] args) { System.out.println("Hello world!"); } } javac HelloWorld.java java HelloWorld Christian Zachariasen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 09:22:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E09D1065670 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 09:22:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norman.maurer@googlemail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E228FC0A for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 09:22:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norman.maurer@googlemail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1039954fgb.35 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 02:22:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=h5d0LLkIhda1lB9t61FSK+SDFOGPzR32BkByx/PVbwY=; b=vHKGglRxJm9/XuWiFh8PI8ycQ+D9Q57rh/QzhfoCgeEFmnZVIlsPhGP+T3+z1pRMxyHTOlC+6KzZkQvKIj9Nfm5RysubyNgOFXm/v4INREr/pd8SsK1iC5uHR0UkqkUVIh4zcGbHDZ9WbarZqctjfQUrg9v+QwO57x7WzZp413Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=mtnJd4HYGTKQZI6L97bhThX4sn0CcEYhVEOVZ3r17/+0UEvQmxv1KyMQ5w0r7ZEjRpkpwihnM1xDm1h4R7Le+voR+yXh3PDHKcKDwwzm2dMOxHDIr6VRWxbexOl8WB1CFCJ1z8lm8litKUvRM/D0E2IE0l7p9CO+b9p296F0E/U= Received: by 10.86.62.3 with SMTP id k3mr3339014fga.32.1211707325268; Sun, 25 May 2008 02:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.97.12 with HTTP; Sun, 25 May 2008 02:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <75bda7a00805250222j5aea0060mb354598df7ad844b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 11:22:05 +0200 From: "Norman Maurer" Sender: norman.maurer@googlemail.com To: gahn In-Reply-To: <77341.5393.qm@web52109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <77341.5393.qm@web52109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 72eb7cc1cd76d099 Cc: free bsd , freebsd general questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD crashed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 09:22:07 -0000 Just type "?" to get the possible values. If this not help use the livefs cd to start a shell and mount the disk. Cheers, Norman 2008/5/25 gahn : > Hello all: > > My FreeBSD crashed. It boots fine but can't mount root directory. Here is the message: > > ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > ... > .... > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a > > Manual root filesystem specification: > : Mount using filesystem > eg. ufs:da0s1a > ? List valid disk boot devices > Abort manual input > > mountroot> > > /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > > Could any gurus here help me out this? I just want to save the files in the home directory so that I can rebuild the system. > > Regards > > Dave > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 09:31:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0831065671 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 09:31:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrizach@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3DE08FC1E for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 09:31:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrizach@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1730006rvf.43 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 02:31:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=91+JQwvXu3a2ghcldoTqD53Yj+bqv+bGU2jp9V9dPu4=; b=pQMBY8mcO9RZNHPnUYdoS2OiLTC3ay73A7bx3owxXmA7Wrw/OM9amqErhfQtgapYdlXE3jwzNZl74NiAKJwpID88tgrHXcEuJF+ERH0hviEGagZXaslVdMnxFwse7svQ/tVpaEjrDm1hyyv6svnGoCumy7fFxND17nKW7vW+uMU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=v5fkpkDSbCHLVDGFI42OmwslZzH/kqTKgDw7URz6p/jhmlVxU5hpiLpDWQ5qFGcNPiXXldYK+z/AUavQN/unie4iOiZl67K6TYJ6X3K4cr9Wf2z4UTw9tRXvyUM0k2XPdaWTsr22UHvYFKjmj2zYKtOjfxLPvYjlTR1xn78Zi20= Received: by 10.141.43.5 with SMTP id v5mr1583139rvj.216.1211707901419; Sun, 25 May 2008 02:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.142.18 with HTTP; Sun, 25 May 2008 02:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4a89d1190805250231u1a0277dsbecc156861f8e218@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 11:31:41 +0200 From: "Christian Zachariasen" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kyrre_Nyg=E5rd?=" , "FreeBSD Mailing Lists" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Can I Reinstall FreeBSD Over SSH? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 09:31:41 -0000 On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 9:42 AM, "Kyrre Nyg=E5rd" wrote: > My server is getting kinda messy, but my ISP charges too much for a > reinstall. Can I do this myself over SSH? Or perhaps there are ways to ma= ke > ones system as clean as a fresh install? Thanks. > > Much obliged, > Kyrre > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > (sorry, forgot to send this to the list as well) You have a server at an ISP? I'd say you'll need physical access to do an actual reinstall, unless they're using some kind of virtualization and you have access to that. But how is the server getting "messy"? In most cases you can just remove th= e software you're not using, and reclaim disk space that way. Also make sure any unneeded services are removed from /etc/rc.conf. To be honest, though - I've never felt the need to reinstall FreeBSD unless I was doing a major update as well (5 -> 6 for example). Christian Zachariasen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 09:44:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877961065675 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 09:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E308FC1B for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 09:44:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so979145tid.3 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 02:44:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=13mNs/aYA0opmlU3PThHDE8UoQv8mFGHGi+aXhLSJDM=; b=BZpMRWxFk+9XWAhofr02t6BYLkn/ssYmNGvkxiemp0QnHRzrTKZ1p3+GIRRiTIeu75GLKmYsstsjZkzXZEIhXY24K/epu1KArB8WrOuZP6+mf3VinpNcHX7pboP6w7I/0mMm89cSeJRZ7EMuEP2Iza/yzvieOs8xAFuru3+uAZc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bqpsYiIG1SkHf4R7SBJpSZOJoKlAds3vZFKNzDqEKwrjUICUtLIXo10VwDcfhJn+JdV4/g/TcoT0GOW/gHxnmDjI7//32/qK9vl7fs7Fu50/VmPIgpyDwwgl3dJ+7ac9/9rMpUh1N3Lm5YPpjbivjd/lu/mnkrfJy3U3Cyj7OYg= Received: by 10.110.49.6 with SMTP id w6mr444021tiw.6.1211708648254; Sun, 25 May 2008 02:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.53.11 with HTTP; Sun, 25 May 2008 02:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5635aa0d0805250244u7fe611e4r9480889f832ac7a6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 16:44:08 +0700 From: "Outback Dingo" To: "Christian Zachariasen" In-Reply-To: <4a89d1190805250231u1a0277dsbecc156861f8e218@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4a89d1190805250231u1a0277dsbecc156861f8e218@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kyrre_Nyg=E5rd?= , FreeBSD Mailing Lists Subject: Re: Can I Reinstall FreeBSD Over SSH? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 09:44:11 -0000 In theory yes you can its been done before, ill see if i can find the url and the code for it i think it was mfsbsd ?? On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Christian Zachariasen wrote: > On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 9:42 AM, "Kyrre Nyg=E5rd" > wrote: > > > My server is getting kinda messy, but my ISP charges too much for a > > reinstall. Can I do this myself over SSH? Or perhaps there are ways to > make > > ones system as clean as a fresh install? Thanks. > > > > Much obliged, > > Kyrre > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > (sorry, forgot to send this to the list as well) > > You have a server at an ISP? > > I'd say you'll need physical access to do an actual reinstall, unless > they're using some kind of virtualization and you have access to that. > > But how is the server getting "messy"? In most cases you can just remove > the > software you're not using, and reclaim disk space that way. Also make sur= e > any unneeded services are removed from /etc/rc.conf. To be honest, though= - > I've never felt the need to reinstall FreeBSD unless I was doing a major > update as well (5 -> 6 for example). > > Christian Zachariasen > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 10:01:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A1C7106567E; Sun, 25 May 2008 10:01:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard@unixguru.nl) Received: from mx1.unixguru.nl (mx1.unixguru.nl [77.37.12.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 488B18FC13; Sun, 25 May 2008 10:01:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard@unixguru.nl) Received: from mail.unixguru.nl (www.unixguru.nl [217.122.37.210]) by mx1.unixguru.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABC61F63D; Sun, 25 May 2008 11:37:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.unixguru.nl [127.0.0.1]) by mail.unixguru.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739B01141B; Sun, 25 May 2008 11:33:55 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixguru.nl Received: from mail.unixguru.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.unixguru.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kX9RLl4wgrdS; Sun, 25 May 2008 11:33:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (shell.unixguru.nl [192.168.10.20]) by mail.unixguru.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F9B11408; Sun, 25 May 2008 11:33:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 11:33:28 +0200 From: Richard Arends To: gahn Message-ID: <20080525093327.GC34697@shell.unixguru.nl> References: <77341.5393.qm@web52109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <77341.5393.qm@web52109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: free bsd , freebsd general questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD crashed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 10:01:56 -0000 On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 01:52:05AM -0700, gahn wrote: > Could any gurus here help me out this? I just want to save the files in the home directory so that I can rebuild the system. Boot with a FreeBSD installation or live CD/DVD and mount the home partition and burn the files on a CD or DVD, or copy them with scp to an other system or mount a remote filesystem like CIFS/Samba/NFS and copy the files on that filesystem. Or restore them from your most recent backup :) -- Regards, Richard. /* Homo Sapiens non urinat in ventum */ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 10:04:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58471065670 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 10:04:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lothar@lobraun.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58CB98FC1A for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 10:04:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lothar@lobraun.de) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (p5B20409E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [91.32.64.158]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKwpI-1K0Ctg1Yr3-00082q; Sun, 25 May 2008 11:52:12 +0200 Message-ID: <483936D2.1030809@lobraun.de> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 11:52:18 +0200 From: Lothar Braun User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080507) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kyrre_Nyg=E5rd?= , questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/spSvb8emv/qGPmEXfv2PQVqYUaKeRKT5xLHQ MsbIbpY5VItMpqpRQfdAPgACQ8kQgjnIp4HoE4UFAjau1uCsav BLNYbx7z8lQkR0dLxxotomVBHFNOTlJ Cc: Subject: Re: Can I Reinstall FreeBSD Over SSH? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 10:04:49 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Kyrre Nygård wrote: | My server is getting kinda messy, but my ISP charges too much for a reinstall. Can I do this myself over SSH? Or perhaps there are ways to make ones system as clean as a fresh install? Thanks. If you have a spare partition on your system, then you can try the depinguinator: http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2008-01-29-depenguinator-2.0.html The depinguinator helps you to create a FreeBSD install image, that has SSH enabled by default. You can boot into that system and use it as an install medium for your FreeBSD installation. Regards, ~ Lothar -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkg5NtEACgkQOlpYSeF9JmZvXgCgh1bROYIDzY6b6vn760nLQUNc cUEAnArHwflIa7//tfX+ce6IZbFYSiWn =NZd3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 10:16:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D16106564A; Sun, 25 May 2008 10:16:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hlh@restart.be) Received: from tignes.restart.be (unknown [IPv6:2001:41d0:1:2ad2:0:1::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4918FC16; Sun, 25 May 2008 10:16:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hlh@restart.be) Received: from restart.be (avoriaz.tunnel.bel [IPv6:2001:41d0:1:2ad2:1:ffff::]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "avoriaz.restart.be", Issuer "CA master" (verified OK)) by tignes.restart.be (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C3E01BAC11; Sun, 25 May 2008 12:16:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from morzine.restart.bel (morzine.restart.bel [IPv6:2001:41d0:1:2ad2:1:2::]) (authenticated bits=0) by restart.be (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m4PAGNMk040509; Sun, 25 May 2008 12:16:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hlh@restart.be) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=restart.be; s=avoriaz; t=1211710585; bh=4BQnleHrKpuQYz+FArDNPWiys2S/my56YQDD6uo p0gw=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=JaSbipp06v28 UcE8oWiDhLNmputu7soneQFU1pGurAYj2e5nrkfb4fFd4d/rGir155U1DT6LwoHtKwV bT+Q7vg== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=avoriaz; d=restart.be; c=nofws; q=dns; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc: subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:x-scanned-by; b=iLoxZLY55Lv9Wj62lt8twstT6SYNX9R2VCI/yfT1iLcrUrysmQ7/GlAV9crUoqlG2 oaNqPBDNjgT9cijSJbeuA== Message-ID: <48393C77.2010105@restart.be> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 12:16:23 +0200 From: Henri Hennebert Organization: RestartSoft User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080504) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gahn References: <77341.5393.qm@web52109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <77341.5393.qm@web52109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on IPv6:2001:41d0:1:2ad2:1:1:: Cc: free bsd , freebsd general questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD crashed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 10:16:28 -0000 gahn wrote: > Hello all: > > My FreeBSD crashed. It boots fine but can't mount root directory. Here is the message: > > ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > ... > .... > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a > > Manual root filesystem specification: > : Mount using filesystem > eg. ufs:da0s1a > ? List valid disk boot devices > Abort manual input > > mountroot> try to find if da0s1a is the right disk: `lsdev' may help then `set currdev diskxxxx' and check the content of the current disk with `ls' Henri > > /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > > Could any gurus here help me out this? I just want to save the files in the home directory so that I can rebuild the system. > > Regards > > Dave > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 10:27:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B790B106567C for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 10:27:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net (ptb-relay02.plus.net [212.159.14.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5385E8FC16 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 10:27:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=milibyte.co.uk) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1K0DRR-0002xu-C6; Sun, 25 May 2008 11:27:05 +0100 Received: by milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K0DRQ-0000aZ-Ge; Sun, 25 May 2008 11:27:04 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: Chris Whitehouse , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 11:27:03 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <48389A1D.9010201@onetel.com> <20080524230414.GA5679@shepherd> In-Reply-To: <20080524230414.GA5679@shepherd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200805251127.04215.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: 567bd3fc48e627f399ce8c1a6276a608 Cc: Subject: Re: where is FreeBSD on ftp.uk.freebsd.org? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 10:27:07 -0000 On Sunday 25 May 2008, Sahil Tandon wrote: > * Chris Whitehouse [05-24-2008]: > > Also UK is not in the list of countries at > > http://mirrorlist.freebsd.org/FBSDsites.php. > > Several UK mirrors listed here: > > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/mirr= ors-ftp.html Unfortunately most of these don't appear to be functional. I've tried to=20 access /pub/FreeBSD/ports/ on them with very limited success. ftp.uk.freebsd.org =3D> ftp.plig.net Failed - /pub/FreeBSD doesn't exist ftp2.uk.freebsd.org =3D> ftp.mirrorservice.org OK ftp3.uk.freebsd.org =3D> ftp.demon.net Failed - Incomplete mirror ftp> cd pub/FreeBSD 250 CWD command successful. ftp> dir 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||52865|) 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list -r--rw-r-- 1 root archives 6254 Nov 5 2002 README.TXT drwxr-xr-x 2 root archives 4096 Oct 24 2004 TrustedBSD -r--rw-r-- 1 root archives 20645 Feb 5 2004 dir.sizes 226 Transfer complete. ftp4.uk.freebsd.org =3D> sunsite.org.uk Failed - Destination Host Unreachable ftp5.uk.freebsd.org =3D> karma.freebsd-uk.eu.org Failed - no response ftp6.uk.freebsd.org =3D> storm.freebsd.org.uk Failed - /pub/FreeBSD doesn't exist Of the 6 mirrors, ftp2.uk.freebsd.org looks like the only usable one.=20 That's what I've been using for quite a while now with no problems. The situation with UK mirrors for the FreeBSD website is quite messy=20 too. The home page at www.uk.freebsd.org doesn't appear to have been=20 updated for over a year, the production release is shown as 6.2 and the=20 latest security patch is listed as 2007-02-09. The main FreeBSD site shows a couple of UK=20 mirrors in it's drop-down list, United Kingdom/1 and United Kingdom/2,=20 which resolve to www1.uk.freebsd.org and www3.uk.freebsd.org=20 respectively. Currently www1 appears to be down but www3 appears to be=20 OK. I appreciate that www.uk.freebsd.org isn't listed as a mirror on the=20 main web site but it's the one many people might intuitively try to use=20 and it's a pity that it will give them such an out of date view of=20 =46reeBSD. =2D-=20 Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 11:23:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AFB51065740 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 11:23:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailhub.rulez.sk (mailhub.rulez.sk [IPv6:2001:15c0:6672::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B77B48FC19 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 11:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25895C04C; Sun, 25 May 2008 13:23:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rulez.sk Received: from mailhub.rulez.sk ([78.47.53.106]) by localhost (genesis.rulez.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Yw+v0e2fIvyv; Sun, 25 May 2008 13:23:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from danger-pc (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: danger@rulez.sk) by mailhub.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 34AF35C020; Sun, 25 May 2008 13:23:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 13:23:07 +0200 From: Daniel Gerzo X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.99.3) Professional Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1202188203.20080525132307@rulez.sk> To: =?iso-8859-15?Q?=22Kyrre_Nyg=E5rd=22?= In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can I Reinstall FreeBSD Over SSH? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Gerzo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 11:23:35 -0000 Hello Kyrre, Sunday, May 25, 2008, 9:42:37 AM, you wrote: > My server is getting kinda messy, but my ISP charges too much for a > reinstall. Can I do this myself over SSH? Or perhaps there are ways to > make ones system as clean as a fresh install? Thanks. This will probably help you: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/remote-install/ -- Best regards, Daniel mailto:danger@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 12:23:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C617106567B for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 12:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891D48FC25 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 12:23:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so988240tid.3 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 05:23:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=UWInijiqXr98vzJE8HUy1JpAKTFnfmk8JPpshthHnbg=; b=W5qpy36SXdybV1Q53rkpsUJ4yRY3X5J+MTXj81lDEklk/bumZv+aYD1/8LhFPPq+6erEI/gAo8CM+Tw434Aeav9YgOzVoa2IPsUPdWln0lLsErTnkknWB2NAJwbhEOo0b6smfdI7AXZeaDx9nWKr6rfj/XXLHXVH43/w6iB2NCo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=M5yfqjZPZD7OjLkrLFq8FJrndvAxiWcSEC2wJw5TqFUGSG2LRz/BEeGY2pQK0cg18H23zgovYaTbT+eW1MKN44VAPVzgtfrVqpAshydR1qG2XWvg0RX1wmuSRcyvL4HF4SEwvpzr5aVtKpGqxzJKU/iltOqezj24oOLCplnAAXA= Received: by 10.110.7.18 with SMTP id 18mr455829tig.32.1211718196254; Sun, 25 May 2008 05:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.53.11 with HTTP; Sun, 25 May 2008 05:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5635aa0d0805250523v2aed95a5wf0a835a7f1dfb368@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 19:23:16 +0700 From: "Outback Dingo" To: "Daniel Gerzo" In-Reply-To: <1202188203.20080525132307@rulez.sk> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1202188203.20080525132307@rulez.sk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?\"Kyrre_Nyg=E5rd\"?=" Subject: Re: Can I Reinstall FreeBSD Over SSH? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 12:23:18 -0000 Yupp thats the one i was referring to also, id go this way to do it remotely On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Daniel Gerzo wrote: > Hello Kyrre, > > Sunday, May 25, 2008, 9:42:37 AM, you wrote: > > > My server is getting kinda messy, but my ISP charges too much for a > > reinstall. Can I do this myself over SSH? Or perhaps there are ways to > > make ones system as clean as a fresh install? Thanks. > > This will probably help you: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/remote-install/ > > -- > Best regards, > Daniel mailto:danger@FreeBSD.org > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 12:52:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15ED3106564A for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 12:52:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kyrreny@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47C58FC12 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 12:52:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kyrreny@broadpark.no) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from broadpark.no ([80.202.4.61]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0K1F006LLD3ADBA0@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 May 2008 14:52:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [80.202.4.61] by osl1mux1.broadpark.no (mshttpd); Sun, 25 May 2008 14:52:22 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kyrre_Nyg=E5rd=22?= To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 14:52:22 +0200 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit) Content-language: en X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Can I Reinstall FreeBSD Over SSH? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 12:52:24 -0000 Thanks a lot, this is exactly what I need. Kyrre From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 14:07:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C02E106567E for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 14:07:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from que_deseja@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s21.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s21.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.160]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433088FC14 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 14:07:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from que_deseja@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU126-W45 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s21.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 25 May 2008 07:07:12 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [98.203.66.146] From: Desmond Chapman To: Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 14:07:12 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 May 2008 14:07:12.0521 (UTC) FILETIME=[A0E7A790:01C8BE70] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: mounting and using cd-rw media from a non root account X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 14:07:13 -0000 I'm still stuck on the command line for this one. How do I give the user pe= rmissions and allow an application such as k3b to access the device? Any an= d all links to howtos or your own method is welcome. Thank you in advance. _________________________________________________________________ E-mail for the greater good. Join the i=92m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=3DEML_WL_ GreaterG= ood= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 14:25:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD3C106566B for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 14:25:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13758FC1D for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 14:25:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aquarius.dyndns.org (athedsl-285161.home.otenet.gr [85.73.161.135]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4PEPkc3029775; Sun, 25 May 2008 17:25:47 +0300 Message-ID: <4839772C.3010307@otenet.gr> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 17:26:52 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Desmond Chapman References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounting and using cd-rw media from a non root account X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 14:25:49 -0000 Desmond Chapman wrote: > I'm still stuck on the command line for this one. How do I give the user permissions and allow an application such as k3b to access the device? Any and all links to howtos or your own method is welcome. > Thank you in advance. > > > I have the following in my /etc/devfs.conf file: own cd0 root:operator perm cd0 0660 This makes the cd device owned by root / operator, and the permissions are set so that everyone in the operators group can read and write the device. If you change it to perm cd0 0666, everyone will be able to read and write (depending on your setup, this may have security implications). Do not forget to perform /etc/rc.d/devfs restart if you change the above file. You will need to load the atapicam module into the kernel if you wish to use utilities like cdrecord and k3b. This will make your atapi CD to be handled as a SCSI device. Use something like: kldload atapicam and add: atapicam_load="YES" in your /boot/loader.conf so that it also loads on your next boot. You can also build atapicam into your kernel if you don't want to use the module. The CD will then be handled using a cdX device, i.e. cd0, while the atapicd is usually acd0 Finally, for instructions on setting up k3b, go to /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b directory and type: make showinfo This will tell you most that you need to know on setting up k3b (including some of the info mentioned above). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 14:35:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B33341065670 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 14:35:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thenudnik@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC238FC1B for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 14:35:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thenudnik@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h27so1179574wxd.7 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 07:35:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Csc8NNxLGGHUhKimlQvIqBGmliq4Bg5zmmZeABhx+Ik=; b=DkKIQNBvpHqD93ho1S/URib5UgKRtALsKqj/pTI67z8U5G+H6T+QRrLGNq5yUQbT/K251t2L/jpM25CRRay92svkI4Hngw7ZbXOIPLHD1p+rx6tyCDcivcInxPoaYJ1qSHVF3A05CKnhDhxDjNgRz36XgDiAuv2zdta5dao2+qs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CmC3dhAh2/T8QsVaEO1f3H2ehbuf6lgalzPjJ5VFmFmZWz9hgF7b+ZT+fQ4UyZ7fILDup5I+P/8p8+sZkTxKgLh+i3Jqu4VCSVzWOvKS0THE2So1p+aOuGaEwJw8ldmBV3jLEKIKRWvPGuAx5AZiwhxdsAqVIOC3L+UrGosgWcI= Received: by 10.70.75.20 with SMTP id x20mr3559467wxa.29.1211726137252; Sun, 25 May 2008 07:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.235.232.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h38sm16225871wxd.39.2008.05.25.07.35.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 May 2008 07:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4839792C.5090809@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 10:35:24 -0400 From: "David M. Patronis" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Desmond Chapman References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounting and using cd-rw media from a non root account X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 14:35:38 -0000 Desmond Chapman wrote: > I'm still stuck on the command line for this one. How do I give the user permissions and allow an application such as k3b to access the device? Any and all links to howtos or your own method is welcome. > Thank you in advance. > > _________________________________________________________________ > E-mail for the greater good. Join the i’m Initiative from Microsoft. > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ GreaterGood_______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > My own configuration notes. Your mileage may vary : ) #How to install and configure K3b on FreeBSD 7.0 #To install the pre-compiled package (usually satisfactory) use the code below pkg_add -r k3b # If the pre-compiled package is ill-suited for your system, you can try compiling from source using the code below. cd /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b && make install clean # Next, we edit configuration files in order to establish the proper settings and permissions # Edit /boot/loader.conf to add the following: atapicam_enable="YES" hw.ata.atapi_dma="1" # Modify devfs.conf with the following lines: own cdrom root:operator perm cdrom 0666 link cd0 cdwriter own cderiter root:operator perm cdwriter 0666 own pass0 root:operator perm pass0 0666 own xpt0 root:operator perm xpt0 0666 # Edit /etc/rc.conf to add the following: devd_enable="YES" #I am told the commands below are necessary on occasion. My system seems to work fine without them, however. chmod 4711 /usr/local/bin/cdrecord chmod 4711 /usr/local/bin/cdrdao From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 16:01:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF811065672 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 16:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geeree@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047068FC22 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 16:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geeree@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so1002878tid.3 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 09:01:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=GBAWkzHJ0FVKaIjIiE7EXfyU0GW1ZX+D9b/2u8E0EuM=; b=eEgxPNbJr59tkEffb9R46jkps5IW/F27SoB+ul28p8+xm1ciPQOK4CNMBG3rVjaFe7XQKpYmnikerIpjXTPy+t2sGcw8/8kMEhQ3il1GU0UHaU4cQL6n9bQEE2TB0rxPEDf/26IhIF98fwRtI/JaLq5J78LNWgfzsMa1aRm9h74= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=iyY71+VwB0KE8Wy41TwaI/iB441CASzcYioPKf47mGR0ZEhS089oXkrpns4hzmvD4tUxrkPw7/97UJs1YITudTG6d057jn36YS1oSFWtZ9TsYDC5w4XQKQQCSDXYFth0jKqt/nFkFcnZpDahUaIsjqxZUKgsddVysQLd8+g3gXk= Received: by 10.110.46.3 with SMTP id t3mr479026tit.33.1211731261660; Sun, 25 May 2008 09:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.50.16 with HTTP; Sun, 25 May 2008 09:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a2141c0805250901t59c67256qa62d0dd54f2a8064@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 21:31:01 +0530 From: "Girish Kulkarni" Sender: geeree@gmail.com To: "Matthias Apitz" In-Reply-To: <20080524154934.GA5658@rebelion.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8a2141c0805232234x55d222c2s568e9f35144641d7@mail.gmail.com> <20080524065828.GA2306@rebelion.Sisis.de> <8a2141c0805240828h5fa8d592jc41c3a8631b8263e@mail.gmail.com> <20080524154934.GA5658@rebelion.Sisis.de> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0dedb26bbae88eaf Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ekiga/OPAL won't compile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 16:01:03 -0000 On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > The page says KDE 3.5.8 because this is what I have; I'm sure it will > work with any other recent KDE or Gnome version; I'm happy to update the > page with your (or others) version of KDE/Gnome/... just send me a note; Never mind. I installed the pre-compiled package using pkg_add. It is working fine now. Girish. -- Girish Kulkarni - Allahabad, India - http://girish.50webs.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 16:03:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6247E1065675 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 16:03:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA738FC13 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 16:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4PG3otL032910; Sun, 25 May 2008 17:03:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.5.5 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m4PG3otL032910 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1211731431; bh=QyX4Qqm110x4hb TIyymbPszgnTyPnZwGARASn2sBE6M=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<48398DDE.1060404@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Sun,=2 025=20May=202008=2017:03:42=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.14=20(X11/20080503)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20ronggui=20|CC:=20freebsd-question s@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20core=20dumped=20with=20java|Referenc es:=20<38b9f0350805250111p50369e5ax2e5604500fd20f78@mail.gmail.com> |In-Reply-To:=20<38b9f0350805250111p50369e5ax2e5604500fd20f78@mail. gmail.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/s igned=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/p gp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig50FA66333FA4F6 A311148C82"; b=X4XWvlm2r9Ay5WfM/Janhj2fP5eIcgw1vpj5ZWaLWJ1NTLztyBiG oyKgWZt3P+jJYDexbR4A76ra3c0QFAWmIRCRmD6mNg27t0nexJCw84+ghgeNb0fypvG D6w6m3ntx4w4P0RSd0EO5XOmTuXRJL/QP+XlzC38b2KCuWOhFgSI= Message-ID: <48398DDE.1060404@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 17:03:42 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080503) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ronggui References: <38b9f0350805250111p50369e5ax2e5604500fd20f78@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <38b9f0350805250111p50369e5ax2e5604500fd20f78@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig50FA66333FA4F6A311148C82" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 25 May 2008 17:03:51 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93, clamav-milter version 0.93 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: core dumped with java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 16:03:58 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig50FA66333FA4F6A311148C82 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ronggui wrote: > Dear List, >=20 > I upgraded to freebsd 7.0 yesterday. >=20 > I have install /usr/ports/java/diablo-jre15/ using ports. Then, I run > the following command, resulting errors. >=20 > [wincent@PC-BSD]java -jar /usr/local/share/java/jabref/jabref.jar > Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) >=20 > Anyone know how to solve this problem? Thanks. >=20 misc/compat6x ? 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( [84.75.166.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l12sm9746935fgb.8.2008.05.25.09.06.05 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 May 2008 09:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48398E69.60001@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 18:06:01 +0200 From: Simon Jolle sjolle User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mustela References: <4837FF86.2000001@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <4837FF86.2000001@yahoo.es> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF3AF8A8FE04A35C6DD65A15B" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: News in Spanish X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 16:06:10 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF3AF8A8FE04A35C6DD65A15B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05/24/2008 01:44 PM, Mustela wrote: > Hello. I'm FreeBSD user. Very days ago, I verified that the news > (what's new) in spanish is not up to date (the last is 1999!!) Why? Hi Mustela Disclaimer: I am not member of the FreeBSD team (I am only a newbie users= ) Simply because there is no voluntary FreeBSD user who translated it. Every Open Source project needs contributions. You are welcome to translate the news. > Link: [1]http://www.freebsd.org/es/news/press.html#story200802:02 > Very thanks. > Pd:If is possible, please, reply in spanish. cheers Simon --------------enigF3AF8A8FE04A35C6DD65A15B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIOY5pEMN/lNE/wrwRAnmdAJ4ze7FqtPwPVjzMeAqH2yBgkLEMLQCcDycJ 7pHIifEP7CgvAG/2kYBkee8= =rGS/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF3AF8A8FE04A35C6DD65A15B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 16:06:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7EA106566C for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 16:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geeree@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152F58FC25 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 16:06:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geeree@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so1003238tid.3 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 09:06:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=PQMN5XlW0VaEvZrBaAd2RlO4z/g+/Chcw8q/rFQUdF0=; b=FK7xM42lu8AwCU0Ywx2Pr+qw19ExkPmMio01b/StQ3/TZfAtPAzz8aUqrNR6G0BHSRxlvm3GxcwF8hPyq+phydK7woH7EucZIIqalNSSsQ6tPAIByBPhLlpfymZClXG07bLfzu9tzxCj6Tw606x3pf4BGMcfbNn5hYaOHNt5M9c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=qhMXW5mQEgZZgb8wF0p+nAFwoXp5NAXaouQD8qtBF6tGwGwjwX7jXFio9jgzPtUjZWPHYm+QBfkxLPUqZMzfr/so/lF1hHAZv6GNjq8FABSkX1WdxXc8rGpBXZUZOkltxH7jdPku6VC6rk/+96SEtcEwbltOLCgQdAr1nOxtxfk= Received: by 10.110.109.12 with SMTP id h12mr479426tic.34.1211731596860; Sun, 25 May 2008 09:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.50.16 with HTTP; Sun, 25 May 2008 09:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a2141c0805250906y29f73683u372b924927e89d77@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 21:36:36 +0530 From: "Girish Kulkarni" Sender: geeree@gmail.com To: "=?UTF-8?Q?Ashish_Shukl?= =?UTF-8?Q?a_=E0=A4=86=E0=A4=B6=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B7?= =?UTF-8?Q?_=E0=A4=B6=E0=A5=81=E0=A4=95=E0=A5=8D=E0=A4=B2?=" In-Reply-To: <873ao7bs82.fsf@chateau.d.lf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8a2141c0805240850r3847c851o474b43c9ca164dbe@mail.gmail.com> <873ao7bs82.fsf@chateau.d.lf> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2bdc1353d2561678 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: anti-aliased fonts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 16:06:38 -0000 On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 9:37 PM, Ashish Shukla wrote: > Search for "FireFox" in this blog post[1] That helped. Although, I had to restrict font availability in Firefox; some fonts don't support anti-aliasing. > You might like to join bsd-india[2] list[3]. Thanks. -- Girish Kulkarni - Allahabad, India - http://girish.50webs.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 16:13:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E241B1065678 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 16:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronggui.huang@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739268FC18 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 16:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronggui.huang@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so1003627tid.3 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 09:13:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ZMREvIGW7MCjE510v+NgfbR1uMV/C9g9QPKKX5q9Np0=; b=amJFAJ/J2/77dvdfrvfICOMj70APRbRS8bmCUjqqAh83tkFmvuKb7690//3MAb12EO3gAFgWQarwvtH+PtoyDHDMdA0IySBtKootJloXL9gz1PvcnJhd+iUM//87MRBVR8IxqZqEFUA2HTeLcYbBumbXQwJQDS1ygYO9T5Mw6uc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YzuV5B4n8YJ7gsG6aHUg4tah33Y/fHk/L/zt+fyd+0UAM2JvKyY+TgmWXC7M8tTxcvJLDWtpGjrd7skkd6k38HN8vSK/Alyy6hI8bLeXbUjVudiRSn/67Ti9Fxsn78xIwaqdXFvqbAsWNuYCPNsxOou3jlsw3oUP0xF5g4CjsBc= Received: by 10.110.53.14 with SMTP id b14mr212758tia.8.1211731993388; Sun, 25 May 2008 09:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.53.16 with HTTP; Sun, 25 May 2008 09:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <38b9f0350805250913oad85c53jc026e2cff4f6541f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 00:13:13 +0800 From: ronggui To: "Matthew Seaman" In-Reply-To: <48398DDE.1060404@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <38b9f0350805250111p50369e5ax2e5604500fd20f78@mail.gmail.com> <48398DDE.1060404@infracaninophile.co.uk> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: core dumped with java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 16:13:15 -0000 Dear all, I don't know the exact problem. After I have installed the /usr/ports/jdk15/, all things go smoothly. Thanks for all your replies. Best On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > ronggui wrote: >> >> Dear List, >> >> I upgraded to freebsd 7.0 yesterday. >> >> I have install /usr/ports/java/diablo-jre15/ using ports. Then, I run >> the following command, resulting errors. >> >> [wincent@PC-BSD]java -jar /usr/local/share/java/jabref/jabref.jar >> Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) >> >> Anyone know how to solve this problem? Thanks. >> > > misc/compat6x ? > > Cheers > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW > > -- HUANG Ronggui, Wincent http://ronggui.huang.googlepages.com/ Bachelor of Social Work, Fudan University, China Master of sociology, Fudan University, China Ph.D. Candidate, CityU of HK. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 17:48:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA96D106567C for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 17:48:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nej.papillon@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA7C8FC16 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 17:48:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nej.papillon@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1885418rvf.43 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 10:48:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=uu0yYQRdhHh7h/r/cAWqk5p8w3vI+4W5HUUScc7HIB4=; b=LGG5uCXSDtEFWvnk4hfIZV2sD+9+pKmuDtCRxome4ZJO17QjY4nytxGi1jSnnE8EtztjC8xGJtsjVG8I9s8QG2edVjESVW3UbVqbsi+0hgytiHkEMmOM+31A4/4JkV3yVKUVTqgmr7nWRHkC2XKxt7dbRiaqmvUCDvOznkmDMDQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=tVYGAakvq3b4lp4ZLKsbZEvED3zaQD7RawEP7DlQWj2Dg9vrlWZWJO3ogxZtBMBx8heEXamVx72a5JuvL+7dYFUPbO91iEP+HH3RG0LGWAqDe+MpQ8ATmnEsf144VQuf+FIYI2ShZDYipZ4PdASoAQBKGQJXNc46ozQh9KavU9g= Received: by 10.140.157.4 with SMTP id f4mr701238rve.1.1211735964603; Sun, 25 May 2008 10:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.142.14 with HTTP; Sun, 25 May 2008 10:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 19:19:24 +0200 From: "nej ALL" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Stick memory USB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 17:48:38 -0000 Hi, I'm new on FreeBSD not on unix. I want to mount automatically an usb-stick memory into my machine ? I get some problems. Need help. -> /etc/devfs.rules add path 'da*' mode 0660 group operator Actions: 1) ls -al /dev/da* ls: No match. 2) I Plug into the USB port, the ImageMate 12-in-1 Card Reader/Writer (SanDisk) 3) ls -al /dev/da* crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 136 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da0 crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 138 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da1 crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 140 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da2 crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 141 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da3 4) I put the memory stick into the Card reader's slot 5) ls -al /dev/da* crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 136 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da0 crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 138 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da1 crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 140 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da2 crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 141 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da3 the /dev/da2s1 isn't here. 6) mount_msdosfs /dev/da2s1 /mnt/cleusb/ mount_msdosfs: /dev/da2s1: No such file or directory 7) fdisk /dev/da2 ******* Working on device /dev/da2 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=30 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=30 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 4 (0x04),(Primary DOS with 16 bit FAT (< 32MB)) start 64, size 62656 (30 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 1/ head 0/ sector 1; end: cyl 979/ head 1/ sector 32 The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: 8) ls -al /dev/da* crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 136 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da0 crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 138 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da1 crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 140 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da2 crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 141 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da3 9) mount_msdosfs /dev/da2 /mnt/cleusb mount_msdosfs: /dev/da2: Invalid argument The command mount_msdosfs terminated abnormally but created in the /dev directory the /dev/da2s1 file. 10) ls -al /dev/da* crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 136 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da0 crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 136 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da0 crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 138 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da1 crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 140 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da2 crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 142 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da2s1 crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 141 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da3 11) And now i can mount and umount the stick memory. Please, can someone explain to me why, when i plug the stick memory into the slot of the card reader, the system doesn't create the /dev/da2s1 file in the the /dev directory. And why i use the mount_msdosfs command, this command creates /dev/da2s1 file in the /dev directory. Thank you for your answers ! Sorry for my english. Best regards Nej Email : nej.papillon@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 18:28:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029EA106566C for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 18:28:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09148FC19 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 18:28:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: (qmail 29747 invoked from network); 25 May 2008 18:28:40 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO chuckr.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 25 May 2008 18:28:39 -0000 Message-ID: <4839ADF8.7090805@telenix.org> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 14:20:40 -0400 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nej ALL References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=F3DCA0E9; url=http://pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stick memory USB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 18:28:41 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 nej ALL wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new on FreeBSD not on unix. > > I want to mount automatically an usb-stick memory into my machine ? > I get some problems. > > Need help. You're trying with your devfs stuff to create the file, but you have to realize it's a device representing a filesystem, not just a file. What you want to read is the mount and fstab man pages, mount to find out how to mount your memory stick, and fstab to figure out how to get it to happen automatically. The devfs stuff is all mistaken, I think, you want that when you want to change permissions or make softlinks of devices, not to create them in the first place, least that's how I';'ve always used it, and I know very well that the correct line in /etc/fstab WILL automount your memory stick. I could give you the exact line, but I think you would rather look that up yourself (I know I would). > > -> /etc/devfs.rules > add path 'da*' mode 0660 group operator > > Actions: > 1) ls -al /dev/da* > ls: No match. > > 2) I Plug into the USB port, the ImageMate 12-in-1 Card Reader/Writer > (SanDisk) > > 3) ls -al /dev/da* > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 136 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da0 > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 138 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da1 > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 140 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da2 > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 141 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da3 > > 4) I put the memory stick into the Card reader's slot > > 5) ls -al /dev/da* > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 136 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da0 > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 138 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da1 > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 140 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da2 > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 141 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da3 > > the /dev/da2s1 isn't here. > > 6) mount_msdosfs /dev/da2s1 /mnt/cleusb/ > mount_msdosfs: /dev/da2s1: No such file or directory > > 7) fdisk /dev/da2 > ******* Working on device /dev/da2 ******* > parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: > cylinders=30 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) > > parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: > cylinders=30 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) > > Media sector size is 512 > Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 > Information from DOS bootblock is: > The data for partition 1 is: > sysid 4 (0x04),(Primary DOS with 16 bit FAT (< 32MB)) > start 64, size 62656 (30 Meg), flag 0 > beg: cyl 1/ head 0/ sector 1; > end: cyl 979/ head 1/ sector 32 > The data for partition 2 is: > > The data for partition 3 is: > > The data for partition 4 is: > > > 8) ls -al /dev/da* > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 136 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da0 > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 138 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da1 > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 140 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da2 > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 141 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da3 > > 9) mount_msdosfs /dev/da2 /mnt/cleusb > mount_msdosfs: /dev/da2: Invalid argument > > The command mount_msdosfs terminated abnormally but created in the /dev > directory the /dev/da2s1 file. > > 10) ls -al /dev/da* > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 136 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da0 > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 136 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da0 > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 138 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da1 > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 140 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da2 > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 142 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da2s1 > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 141 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da3 > > 11) And now i can mount and umount the stick memory. > > Please, can someone explain to me why, when i plug the stick memory into the > slot of the card reader, the system doesn't create the /dev/da2s1 file in > the the /dev directory. > > And why i use the mount_msdosfs command, this command creates /dev/da2s1 > file in the /dev directory. > > Thank you for your answers ! > > Sorry for my english. > > Best regards > > Nej > > Email : nej.papillon@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIOa34z62J6PPcoOkRAgH6AKCUgvP/EqN9INW2oQ+F+JCob71WYwCfaoJB E1viOjy7youaf0uoJ/EDK9I= =VDLR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 20:22:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489C7106564A for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 20:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from ptb-relay01.plus.net (ptb-relay01.plus.net [212.159.14.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B558FC16 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 20:22:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=milibyte.co.uk) by ptb-relay01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1K0Mjq-0000nd-2T for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 May 2008 21:22:42 +0100 Received: by milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K0Mjo-0000Vt-RH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 May 2008 21:22:41 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 21:22:40 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200805252122.40636.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: ceb726405e2c6f54e82731be7b672fad Subject: Non aligned DMA transfer errors with k3b X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 20:22:44 -0000 Suddenly today all my attempts to burn DVDs with k3b result in a continuous stream of the following error messages. May 25 18:04:40 kestrel kernel: ata1: FAILURE - non aligned DMA transfer attempted May 25 18:04:40 kestrel kernel: acd0: setting up DMA failed Quiting k3b doesn't stop the flood of errors, reboots hang and the only solution is to hit the reset switch. I'm running 7.0 RELEASE and if I reboot into my 6.3 partition k3b works just fine, confirming that it's not a media or hardware fault. I've also replaced the DVD writer but I still get the problem with 7.0. I can burn the same data to the same DVD with growisofs with no problem which suggests that the problem lies with k3b so this got me wondering if it was related to the massive portupgrade I did yesterday (affecting 156 ports) but that seems unlikely because when portupgrade finished last night I rebooted and burnt that day's backup to DVD+RW without problem. This morning I burnt 3 DVD+Rs without problem, then about an hour later the problem suddenly appeared when I started to burn another DVD+RW, and there'd been absolutely no software or hardware changes since the previous successful run. Although I don't think upgrading the ports is responsible I've tried downgrading k3b from 1.0.4_1 to 1.0.4 but that had no effect, nor did downgrading dvd+rw-tools-7.1 to 7.0. I don't think any of the other upgraded ports would have been significant. Turning off DMA by setting hw.ata.ata_dma and hw.ata.atapi_dma to zero stops the errors but with a big performance hit so that's not an option for a permanent fix. I've now run out of ideas for what to try next so any suggestions would be welcome. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 20:27:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59631106567E for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 20:27:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from netslists@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F638FC15 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 20:27:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from netslists@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1041269ywe.13 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 13:26:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=e91C1Vl0VacauQXQ5TqmLal1L3KiZdAMOUHaZNlVFgo=; b=JlUNrQOtYVM+0ekGlZCAvHtkUIX2ozAYrIQn99nfFNCqoshBXD4REbI9PlH5AhWuHCjaZViiMUD+MbzrZ64sbCfwrQ2TH/jkf4pTn5239Z2oQo8bmtea9alkqPW+LMEDMgeUHsTTw+pLRbqwD2nL0FS0P5NuCub9mVDUuPuGspw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xC7pNdDBH8wVlN9WnSmjwOS3Qeny9+a65Ml0IsQMMqcS+1xVCcTh1jYaeanjVBN6FRaw0f70VqWHIWPtF3opxsj00T1wula3lVrx4yMmeuiaTYQr+9am5bRq6Jp1giWZP3Zg85jdhKxHuInqApLpRFUa6yvWWs7stRhq7dbQPOA= Received: by 10.151.47.7 with SMTP id z7mr557876ybj.126.1211745585245; Sun, 25 May 2008 12:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.12.8? ( [97.101.40.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm14685267ywo.7.2008.05.25.12.59.43 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 May 2008 12:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4839C529.60700@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 15:59:37 -0400 From: Sten Daniel Soersdal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: VeeJay References: <2cd0a0da0805202349sf97edd1t4d6c49404de5ab26@mail.gmail.com> <20080522020117.GA3334@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <2cd0a0da0805230924u611fcfa7t4dde98be82438519@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2cd0a0da0805230924u611fcfa7t4dde98be82438519@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Frank Shute , FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Your suggestions about this Dell configuration? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 20:27:02 -0000 VeeJay wrote: > Hello Frank > > Really good points. I am really glad to have your thoughts. Regarding your > questions and comments, I have given some answers and a couple of questions > in *RED* colour. Please comment if you happen to manage some time during > weekend, Thanks! > > *Please continue...* > > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 4:01 AM, Frank Shute wrote: > >> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 08:49:51AM +0200, VeeJay wrote: >>> Hello friends, >>> >>> My employer is buying this Dell server and I would like to have your >> opinion >>> about the configuration. >>> >>> Requirements are: >>> 2 Websites with 3-4 million hits per month with video ads. >> If it's "3-4 million hits per month" as you've stated twice now, then >> your hardware is complete overkill. >> >> So I'll assume you mean 3-4 million hits a day for each site. > > > *No, its 3-4 million each site per month and we are having problem. Because, > either Apache or MySQL stops responding. I have following settings as > Performance:* > ** > *# ================================================= > # Performance settings > # ================================================= > Timeout 300 > KeepAlive On > MaxKeepAliveRequests 100 > KeepAliveTimeout 15 > MinSpareServers 5 > MaxSpareServers 10 > StartServers 5 > MaxClients 256 > MaxRequestsPerChild 0* > > >>> Operating System: >>> *FreeBSD AMD64 7-STABBLE* >> I'd use 7.0-RELEASE. >> >>> Database: >>> *PHP+MySQL with Apache* >> No problem. You should use Apache 2.*. > > > *We will use Apache 2.** > >>> >>> Server Configuration: >>> *PowerEdge? 6850 SCSI* >>> >>> Dual Core Intel(R) Xeon(R) Processor 7130M, 3.2GHz, 8MB L3 Cache, 800Mhz >> FSB >>> 1x Additional Dual Core Intel(R) Xeon(R) Processor 7130M, 3.2GHz, 8MB L3 >> Cache, >>> 800MHz FSB >> Slow FSB. I suppose they hope you hit the cache. Shouldn't matter >> because your server is more likely to be disk bound rather than bus >> bound. > > > Changed Processor to: > > *PE 2950 III Quad Core Xeon X5450 (3.0GHz, 2x6MB, 1333MHz FSB)* > > *what do you think about E5450?* > >>> 16GB 400MHz Dual Rank DDR2 Memory (8X2GB) >> Slow memory, to match the slow FSB :) But you've got >250MB per hit. >> So use the excess to cache frequently accessed content. > > > > *We have changed it to:* > > *16GB (8x2GB Dual Rank DIMMs) 667MHz FBD* > >>> C5 Drives attached to embedded PERC4ei, RAID 10 >>> >>> PERC 4/DC RAID controller (128MB cache) (1 intern and 1 extern Channel) >>> (Should I use controller with Both Internal or Both External Channel? >> What >>> they do?) >> Supported according to a quick Google search. >> >>> 5 x 146GB SCSI Ultra320 (15000rpm) 1'' 80 pin harddrives >> "No name" or a brand? > > *We have changed the disks to :* > > *6 x 450GB SAS 15k 3.5" HD Hot Plug, (Hitachi Japan)* We have the PERC 4e/Di and that works wonderfully (256 MB battery backed cache). One hint is that the PERC 4e/Di (and possibly the entire series) does not do correct RAID 1 + 0 (mirrored then striped) but instead does RAID 1 and concatenates those mirrors. > >> >>> Chassis with support for 3.5'' SCSI Hard Drives >>> >>> Dell Remote Access Card 4 SERVER MANAGEMENT CARD >> Don't know if this will work. Most guys use a serial console/ssh for >> management. >> >>> (I will have hot swappable drives & chassis) Get it if your server is going to be remote. It lets you mount CD-ROM disks and ISOs, Floppy images and gives you real keyboard/mouse/video display of the server. It also lets you power up/down/reboot the server remotely. A necessity to do firmware/BIOS upgrades. Serial console/ssh only lets you work with an already working system. The DRAC lets you do remote installs/reinstall/upgrades. >>> >>> Thank you in advance. >> The performance of this hardware will depend on what *sort* of hits >> you get. Are a lot of them just for the homepage? Then just cache it. >> >> Is it static content? > > > *No, its dynamic contents, data is coming form Database.* > >> >> If you're getting lots of ad-hoc database queries and fetches/writes >> from/to disk, then your disks could get a thrashing. >> >> How big's your database? Being read from more than written to? How >> precious is the data? >> > *More than 20 million records and more than 1000 Tables.* > *And of course, data is always preciouse. :)* > >> How many of these hits are reading video ads? All of them? How many >> KBs are these awful ads? >> > *50% of users are going to see the Video Ads.* > ** > *Size would vary between 100KB to 2MB. * > > What bandwidth do you have to these servers? > *100 Mbps* > > How you are going to get the best out of your hardware depends on > questions like these, so you have to analyse your Apache logs and tune > appropriately. > > Tuning Apache, mysql and PHP are all subjects in their own right. > > For FreeBSD, read tuning(7). > > Are you running FreeBSD ATM? Then some numbers from iostat, top etc. > would be useful in analysing how your new server is going to cope and > how much spare capacity you'll have, but the numbers are dependent on > how you've tuned it (if at all). > > Hope I've given you something to think about. > > Regards, > > > -- > > Frank > > > Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > > > > -- Sten Daniel Soersdal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 21:11:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E03E106567A for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 21:11:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek.graham@att.net) Received: from smtp121.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com (smtp121.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.96.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D21F88FC0A for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 21:11:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek.graham@att.net) Received: (qmail 93555 invoked from network); 25 May 2008 20:44:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mulder) (derek.graham@att.net@68.75.174.132 with plain) by smtp121.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 May 2008 20:44:53 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: R5N.bfwVM1nYhw3Rtf8M0WfaZKFAQh24wzfNKyI5.Gm2i35NfG2OAkwNJ00m_T4wnVDfFuA3.uJ4KVVsZ_caa2FY8O4ftibC9ObMY5Y62Q-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: Derek Graham Organization: D and M Computers, Inc. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 15:44:25 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200805251544.26380.derek.graham@att.net> Subject: Linux Compatibility version of libXau X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 21:11:34 -0000 I am trying to get the linux version of Planeshift to work but I need to find a linux version of libXau, cant find it in ports tho :( anyone got a solution to getting Planeshift to work? Thanks Derek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 22:05:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8364C106564A for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 22:05:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from jedburgh.just4dns.com (jedburgh.just4dns.com [78.129.134.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330768FC0A for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 22:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from [86.153.243.228] (helo=movens.plus.com) by jedburgh.just4dns.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K0OKL-0001ts-Cl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 May 2008 23:04:29 +0100 Received: from [10.10.1.4] (redshift [10.10.1.4]) by postbag.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id E006A1CC6C for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 23:04:44 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4839E278.3060208@magichamster.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 23:04:40 +0100 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080524) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 1K0OKL-0001ts-Cl X-Fuzioned-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-From: parish@magichamster.com X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jedburgh.just4dns.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - magichamster.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Best nVidia card for Xorg on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 22:05:03 -0000 Currently using a Radeon 8500LE but since u/g to xorg 7.3 I've had nothing but trouble with X hanging/crashing/locking-up. From what I've read, the state of the radeon drivers leaves much to be desired and although some people seem to have trouble with nVidia cards they appear to be a better choice. So, after over a decade of brand-loyalty to ATI (when I started with FreeBSD back in the mid-90's ATI cards were the only ones I could find that would run X at better than VGA resolution) I'm going to switch to nVidia. The machine is FreeBSD-only so no issues with Windows drivers and performance etc. (I divorced the Evil Empire a couple of years ago) and my Radeon 8500 is adequate for my needs so I don't need a high-end card. I'm looking on eBay and an FX5x00 card seems to fit the bill. So, are there any particular cards that work well under Xorg/FreeBSD or, more importantly, any that don't? Any advice about the need to consider 3D issues would be welcome? I run KDE and mainly use digikam/GIMP for digital photo editing and kmplayer for viewing videos. I believe there is a 3D interface for KDE (CompuViz?) - is this worth bothering with? All help/advice gratefully received. TIA Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 22:20:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D91106567A for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 22:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761928FC1E for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 22:20:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aquarius.dyndns.org (athedsl-285161.home.otenet.gr [85.73.161.135]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4PMK7V4015425; Mon, 26 May 2008 01:20:07 +0300 Message-ID: <4839E65C.9070809@otenet.gr> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 01:21:16 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Ovens References: <4839E278.3060208@magichamster.com> In-Reply-To: <4839E278.3060208@magichamster.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best nVidia card for Xorg on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 22:20:10 -0000 Mark Ovens wrote: > Currently using a Radeon 8500LE but since u/g to xorg 7.3 I've had > nothing but trouble with X hanging/crashing/locking-up. > > From what I've read, the state of the radeon drivers leaves much to be > desired and although some people seem to have trouble with nVidia > cards they appear to be a better choice. > > So, after over a decade of brand-loyalty to ATI (when I started with > FreeBSD back in the mid-90's ATI cards were the only ones I could find > that would run X at better than VGA resolution) I'm going to switch to > nVidia. > > The machine is FreeBSD-only so no issues with Windows drivers and > performance etc. (I divorced the Evil Empire a couple of years ago) > and my Radeon 8500 is adequate for my needs so I don't need a high-end > card. > > I'm looking on eBay and an FX5x00 card seems to fit the bill. > > So, are there any particular cards that work well under Xorg/FreeBSD > or, more importantly, any that don't? > > Any advice about the need to consider 3D issues would be welcome? I > run KDE and mainly use digikam/GIMP for digital photo editing and > kmplayer for viewing videos. I believe there is a 3D interface for KDE > (CompuViz?) - is this worth bothering with? > > All help/advice gratefully received. > > TIA > > Mark > Don't know about CompuViz, but if you would like to try compiz fusion, I am a bit tempted to point you to this article (maybe because I am the author :) http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/compiz-fusion/ This will answer your questions on installing nvidia drivers and also getting 3D effects and compiz-fusion to work. Note that there is no nvidia-supplied (read: proprietary) driver for the 64bit version of FreeBSD. The community 'nvidia' driver works fine, although no 3D and 2D performance is somewhat limited. I've used a number of cards with FreeBSD (7300GT, 7300Go (laptop), 6600GT, 6200) and never had problems. The FX series should also work, but why not buying a newer card? You can get new entry-level nvidia cards for very little money. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 22:30:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402B3106567E for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 22:30:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from jedburgh.just4dns.com (jedburgh.just4dns.com [78.129.134.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33058FC15 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 22:30:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from [86.153.243.228] (helo=movens.plus.com) by jedburgh.just4dns.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K0OjG-0004Vy-P6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 May 2008 23:30:14 +0100 Received: from [10.10.1.4] (redshift [10.10.1.4]) by postbag.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994D81CC6C for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 23:30:30 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4839E882.2010005@magichamster.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 23:30:26 +0100 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080524) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4839E278.3060208@magichamster.com> <4839E65C.9070809@otenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <4839E65C.9070809@otenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 1K0OjG-0004Vy-P6 X-Fuzioned-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-From: parish@magichamster.com X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jedburgh.just4dns.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - magichamster.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: Best nVidia card for Xorg on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 22:30:37 -0000 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > Don't know about CompuViz, but if you would like to try compiz fusion, > I am a bit tempted to point you to this article (maybe because I am the > author :) > Ah, compiz - that's what I was thinking of ;-) > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/compiz-fusion/ > > This will answer your questions on installing nvidia drivers and also > getting 3D effects and compiz-fusion to work. > Note that there is no nvidia-supplied (read: proprietary) driver for the > 64bit version of FreeBSD. The community 'nvidia' driver works fine, > although no 3D and 2D performance is somewhat limited. I've used a > number of cards with FreeBSD (7300GT, 7300Go (laptop), 6600GT, 6200) > and never had problems. > > The FX series should also work, but why not buying a newer card? You can > get new entry-level nvidia cards for very little money. Well, it's down to money really but I'll take a look at the price of new cards. Thanks. Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 22:47:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B62E106567A for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 22:47:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE208FC13 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 22:47:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4PMkhB0086086; Sun, 25 May 2008 17:46:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080525174530.0253baf0@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 17:46:30 -0500 To: gahn , freebsd general questions , free bsd From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <77341.5393.qm@web52109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <77341.5393.qm@web52109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080525-0, 05/25/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93/6806/Wed Apr 16 15:50:16 2008 on betty.computinginnovations.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: m4PMkhB0086086 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD crashed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 22:47:12 -0000 At 03:52 AM 5/25/2008, gahn wrote: >Hello all: > >My FreeBSD crashed. It boots fine but can't mount root directory. Here is >the message: > >///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// >... >.... >Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a > >Manual root filesystem specification: > : Mount using filesystem > eg. ufs:da0s1a > ? List valid disk boot devices > Abort manual input > >mountroot> > >/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > >Could any gurus here help me out this? I just want to save the files in >the home directory so that I can rebuild the system. > >Regards > >Dave Boot a cd, then copy your files to another system, or to removable media. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 22:54:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28511106566B for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 22:54:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (ip-58-28-152-174.static-xdsl.xnet.co.nz [58.28.152.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60208FC0C for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 22:54:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E41D528436; Mon, 26 May 2008 10:54:28 +1200 (NZST) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 10:54:28 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Mark Ovens Message-ID: <20080525225428.GA71710@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <4839E278.3060208@magichamster.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4839E278.3060208@magichamster.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best nVidia card for Xorg on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 22:54:31 -0000 On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 11:04:40PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > Currently using a Radeon 8500LE but since u/g to xorg 7.3 I've had > nothing but trouble with X hanging/crashing/locking-up. > > From what I've read, the state of the radeon drivers leaves much to be > desired and although some people seem to have trouble with nVidia cards > they appear to be a better choice. > > So, after over a decade of brand-loyalty to ATI (when I started with > FreeBSD back in the mid-90's ATI cards were the only ones I could find > that would run X at better than VGA resolution) I'm going to switch to > nVidia. Heh. I was just thinking about going the other way. One of the main problems with the nVidia on X is that the xorg-nvidia driver is very basic; this can be demonstrated by going to a Javascript heavy page (eg http://www.xwiki.org) using firefox. The X-server just slows to crawl when trying to scroll the site. The behaviour is not exhibited with xorg-intel driver, as a counter-example. Support for the nVidia on FreeBSD from the vendor is also incomplete: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2006-June/016995.html The feature request from nVidia appears to have stalled for the time being (more correctly: I couldn't locate news on any updates to on the 'Net). In short, nVidia cards are usable, but performance can be exceptionally bad. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Only the meek get pinched. The bold survive." - Ferris Bueller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 01:12:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDC4106564A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 01:12:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E818FC0C for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 01:12:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id m4Q1CwxM018609 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 18:12:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id m4Q1CwRX018608 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 May 2008 18:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA28358; Sun, 25 May 08 18:11:05 PDT Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 18:11:04 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <483a0e28.yI2rkHoaWjLvkauP%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: non-RAID SATA X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 01:12:59 -0000 I am looking for a cost-effective way to add a SATA drive to an existing 7.0 system whose on-board controller is PATA, and am not getting very far at all in identifying an inexpensive controller which would be expected to work well. (I'd prefer PCI, since the USB in this box is probably 1.0 and not capable of sustaining desirable data rates.) All mentions of SATA in the hardware guide and FAQ seem to be of RAID controllers, or else too generic to guide a choice of add-in cards. Does anyone have any experience with this that they would be inclined to share? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 02:03:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8407F1065670 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 02:03:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C778FC16 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 02:03:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: (qmail 8690 invoked from network); 26 May 2008 02:03:37 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO chuckr.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 26 May 2008 02:03:37 -0000 Message-ID: <483A189B.4000700@telenix.org> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 21:55:39 -0400 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Chen References: <4839E278.3060208@magichamster.com> <20080525225428.GA71710@osiris.chen.org.nz> In-Reply-To: <20080525225428.GA71710@osiris.chen.org.nz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=F3DCA0E9; url=http://pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mark Ovens , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best nVidia card for Xorg on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 02:03:38 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jonathan Chen wrote: > On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 11:04:40PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: >> Currently using a Radeon 8500LE but since u/g to xorg 7.3 I've had >> nothing but trouble with X hanging/crashing/locking-up. >> >> From what I've read, the state of the radeon drivers leaves much to be >> desired and although some people seem to have trouble with nVidia cards >> they appear to be a better choice. >> >> So, after over a decade of brand-loyalty to ATI (when I started with >> FreeBSD back in the mid-90's ATI cards were the only ones I could find >> that would run X at better than VGA resolution) I'm going to switch to >> nVidia. > > Heh. I was just thinking about going the other way. One of the main > problems with the nVidia on X is that the xorg-nvidia driver is very > basic; this can be demonstrated by going to a Javascript heavy page (eg > http://www.xwiki.org) using firefox. The X-server just slows to crawl > when trying to scroll the site. The behaviour is not exhibited with > xorg-intel driver, as a counter-example. > > Support for the nVidia on FreeBSD from the vendor is also incomplete: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2006-June/016995.html > The feature request from nVidia appears to have stalled for the time > being (more correctly: I couldn't locate news on any updates to on the > 'Net). > > In short, nVidia cards are usable, but performance can be exceptionally > bad. 'Scuse me, I'm not personally very familiar (yet) with 3D graphics, but I'm reading OpenGL (I bought the SuperBible) and I'm quite well along in writing my driver for a cheapy graphics tablet, to get me along with Gimp. So, could you tell me, are your comments about the Nvidia card driver performance dealing with the Nvidia-supplied driver and OpenGL libs they have, as expressed in the FreeBSD-ports supplied (from Nvidia code) Nvidia driver?? I have them compiled under FreeBSD-current, because a friend recommended them as the best available, is that wrong? Is there better? I am not aware of any pure-public driver for those cards, but I just am not very well up on their details, so I want to be sure of your meaning, making sure I have you right here.. BTW, my card is a Nvidia-compatible (licensed) GeForce 8600 GTS card, if that means anything to you. If you think the ATI cards (using FreeBSD available drivers) are better, let me have that one more time please, there is very little on the net from even slightly reliable sources on this, so I would guess you have a attentive audience here. > > Cheers. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIOhibz62J6PPcoOkRAoUFAJ4iG+lO49cL3X2qNrRWDwpvPgaAmwCfWd67 zmGMC23pwA6mE5w2LycKB/k= =97lJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 02:10:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0061D106564A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 02:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from npfeiffen@achaean.com) Received: from cedant7.abac.com (cedant7.abac.com [66.175.0.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64408FC18 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 02:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from npfeiffen@achaean.com) Received: from wm (cpe-071-068-115-138.carolina.res.rr.com [71.68.115.138]) (authenticated bits=0) by cedant7.abac.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m4Q1cfum002867 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 18:38:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from npfeiffen@achaean.com) Message-ID: <002901c8bed1$3896ac20$0201a8c0@wm> From: "Nicholas Pfeiffenberger" To: Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 15:38:35 -1000 Organization: Achaean Technology MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.101 (HTML_MESSAGE) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Disk Controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 02:10:08 -0000 Hi, I have a Biostar 7050PV motherboard, but can't tell what the disk = controller is, I think it's an NF630A. Is this disk controller supported = by any of the freebsd versions for amd64?=20 Thanks, ~Nick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 02:48:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A7C106566C for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 02:48:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+WJ=5b491d5d@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CA18FC13 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 02:48:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+WJ=5b491d5d@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F8616499F for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 22:31:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE64323E49A for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 22:31:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 03:31:45 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080526033145.662624e1@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20080525225428.GA71710@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <4839E278.3060208@magichamster.com> <20080525225428.GA71710@osiris.chen.org.nz> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Best nVidia card for Xorg on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 02:48:19 -0000 On Mon, 26 May 2008 10:54:28 +1200 Jonathan Chen wrote: > Support for the nVidia on FreeBSD from the vendor is also incomplete: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2006-June/016995.html > The feature request from nVidia appears to have stalled That article says: "While the following is focused on the NVIDIA FreeBSD graphics drivers, we believe the interfaces discussed below are generally applicable to any modern high performance graphics driver." Aside from the amd64 specific issues, it's doesn't seem to imply that NVIDIA cards are particularly disadvantaged, just that NVIDIA are the only company to make an effort with FreeBSD. > In short, nVidia cards are usable, but performance can be > exceptionally bad. The xorg nv driver is certainly poor, but is there any reason to believe that the nvidia driver is inferior to drivers for other graphics cards. I've never heard any great claims for their 3d performance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 03:00:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB761065685 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 03:00:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DFAF8FC20 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 03:00:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m4Q30d3u099341; Sun, 25 May 2008 20:00:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 20:01:42 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <483a0e28.yI2rkHoaWjLvkauP%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sun, 25 May 2008 20:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: RE: non-RAID SATA X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 03:00:40 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of > perryh@pluto.rain.com > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:11 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: non-RAID SATA > > > I am looking for a cost-effective way to add a SATA drive to an > existing 7.0 system whose on-board controller is PATA, and am not > getting very far at all in identifying an inexpensive controller > which would be expected to work well. (I'd prefer PCI, since the > USB in this box is probably 1.0 and not capable of sustaining > desirable data rates.) > SATA is faster than PCI. Most people would replace the motherboard or use a USB 2.0 card which has a far faster transfer speed than PCI does as a transition, with the expectation that sooner or later they are going to replace the system. > All mentions of SATA in the hardware guide and FAQ seem to be of > RAID controllers, or else too generic to guide a choice of add-in > cards. > > Does anyone have any experience with this that they would be > inclined to share? In automotive terms your adding a free-flow exhaust to a restricted engine - in the trade we call them adding a "fart can" because they do nothing to help the car go faster since there's restrictions further up the chain. Go buy an inexpensive USB 2.0 external disk case, then buy your SATA disk and stick it inside of that, with the idea that eventually your going to get a faster machine you might be able to use the disk in. Ted > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 03:02:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6101065672 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 03:02:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from iron3.sfsu.edu (iron3.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.128]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 238B78FC14 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 03:02:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) X-onepass: IPPSC X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAH/FOUiC1Apk/2dsb2JhbACrZQ Received: from smtp01.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.100]) by iron3.sfsu.edu with ESMTP; 25 May 2008 20:02:22 -0700 Received: from libra.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.238]) by mail05a.sfsu.edu (Lotus Domino Release 7.0.3HF378) with ESMTP id 2008052520022119-1088 ; Sun, 25 May 2008 20:02:21 -0700 Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 20:02:21 -0700 (PDT) From: KAYVEN RIESE To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on MAIL05a/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0.3HF378 | February 28, 2008) at 05/25/2008 20:02:21, Serialize by Router on SMTP01/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0.3HF378 | February 28, 2008) at 05/25/2008 20:02:22, Serialize complete at 05/25/2008 20:02:22 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: cvsup RELENG_6_3 to RELENG_7 impaired gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 03:02:23 -0000 I am feeling nuked from the freeBSD community right now and I was trying to appropriately post to the gnome list but oh well. I don't have time for the continued bugs in my system, I have _GOT_ to get this running pronto. The subscription to the gnome list seems to be hanging or lagging and my paranoia meter says that some people are doing this because crimeny the gnome list should have sent me at least 50 emails by now. Anyway. To my stupid question that is probably too stupid for hackers, but I am not subscribed to questions either I just can't tolerate that in my time frames It is hard enough letting the other lists go by. Oh. I should have tried to subscribe to that but I am under the.. GGGAAAAH fine. If I don't get that subscription notice by the time I finish this then I'm sending it. I suspect the composition should take a reasonable amount of time for that to happen. I did cvsup with the standard-supfile but I guess I used the one from freeBSD 6.2 and I thought it would be kosher to change the bit that said "RELENG_6_2" to "RELENG_7" so that's what I did. I used the ftp4.freebsd.org mirror and I did a cvsup. Then I did cvsup with the ports-supfile but that one had cvsup4.freebsd.org in it, so after that I was OMG and I changed the ftp4.freebsd.org in the standard-supfile and redid that cvsup. Anyway. THen I started following instructions in /usr/src/Makefile. My current professor runs FreeBSD and he suggested that method. It looks pretty similar to stuff I have seen elsewhwere, plus it was part of what cvsup slurped up that was supposed to be specific to my version, right? Anyway, here are the steps: IMPROVISATION: I did mergemaster -p here oops. (see below) make buildworld / make buildkernel make kernel <-| substituted for-< make installkernel reboot -s .. okay. This is where I guess I am basic? I don't think I used the loader prompt, I didn't use reboot -s hmm.. that probably would have been a good thing to type after # I guess I am really stupid. I did shutdown -r now and when the devil came up I pressed "4" Then I typed "mount -a" and then.. mergemaster -p and that is a ball of wax depicted here: http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/inst_world/index.vhtml The same thing happened the first time I did mergemaster -p tells my spidey sense "oh oh." Anyway. Then I did make installworld and had a bad thing something about "make doesn't get it" but I fixed that by googling it. Oh here it is: http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/inst_world/p5240176.vhtml anyway, don't worry too much about that I fixed it by doing: /usr/src/usr.sbin/mergemaster/mergemaster.sh -p and had the same trials and tribulation of hitting 1000 space bars at the right time with intercelated 1000 return keys (actually maybe more like 300 space bars and 200 return keys) and then, saints be praised, make installworld did some presumably nice things so then I did: make delete-old like /usr/src/Makefile said and OMFG I had to hit "y" 200 times now. mergemaster -U 300 more space bars 200 more return keys make delete-old-libs and now I have provided some pictures of what happens when I try to start up. I get to the devil and then it looks like http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/fb7/p5250001.vhtml http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/fb7/p5250002.vhtml http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/fb7/p5250004.vhtml http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/fb7/p5250005.vhtml I broke my gnome and my nessus which is the thing I absolute need pronto! I am not trying to be demanding I am just informing everybody that I am under pressure here and I have no idea what to google at this point. *----------------------------------------------------------* Kayven Riese, BSCS, MS (Physiology and Biophysics) (415) 902 5513 cellular http://kayve.net Webmaster http://ChessYoga.org *----------------------------------------------------------* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 03:32:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB1D1065678 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 03:32:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (ip-58-28-152-174.static-xdsl.xnet.co.nz [58.28.152.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A3A8FC17 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 03:32:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 15C6128436; Mon, 26 May 2008 15:32:47 +1200 (NZST) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 15:32:47 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Chuck Robey Message-ID: <20080526033247.GA93266@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <4839E278.3060208@magichamster.com> <20080525225428.GA71710@osiris.chen.org.nz> <483A189B.4000700@telenix.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <483A189B.4000700@telenix.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best nVidia card for Xorg on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 03:32:50 -0000 On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 09:55:39PM -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: [...] > So, could you > tell me, are your comments about the Nvidia card driver performance dealing with > the Nvidia-supplied driver and OpenGL libs they have, as expressed in the > FreeBSD-ports supplied (from Nvidia code) Nvidia driver?? I have them compiled > under FreeBSD-current, because a friend recommended them as the best available, > is that wrong? Is there better? I am not aware of any pure-public driver for > those cards, but I just am not very well up on their details, so I want to be > sure of your meaning, making sure I have you right here.. I've got a nVidia card on a FreeBSD-7/amd64 system, and so the only driver I can use is the xorg-nvidia driver. The driver from the nVidia is not an option for me. If you have an i386 system, the driver from nVidia is *MUCH* faster than the xorg driver. Queries to nVidia about the possiblity of an amd64 compatibile driver led me to the kernel-feature list that they would like to have before being able to release a driver form amd64 hosts. HTH. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 04:41:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0581065686 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 04:41:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from jedburgh.just4dns.com (jedburgh.just4dns.com [78.129.134.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93738FC23 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 04:41:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from [86.153.243.228] (helo=movens.plus.com) by jedburgh.just4dns.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K0UVu-0006dK-F9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 05:40:50 +0100 Received: from [10.10.1.4] (redshift [10.10.1.4]) by postbag.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B271CC32 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 05:40:51 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <483A3F52.9040907@magichamster.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 05:40:50 +0100 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080524) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4839ADF8.7090805@telenix.org> In-Reply-To: <4839ADF8.7090805@telenix.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 1K0UVu-0006dK-F9 X-Fuzioned-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-From: parish@magichamster.com X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jedburgh.just4dns.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - magichamster.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: Stick memory USB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 04:41:01 -0000 Chuck Robey wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > nej ALL wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm new on FreeBSD not on unix. >> >> I want to mount automatically an usb-stick memory into my machine ? >> I get some problems. >> >> Need help. > > You're trying with your devfs stuff to create the file, but you have to realize > it's a device representing a filesystem, not just a file. What you want to read > is the mount and fstab man pages, mount to find out how to mount your memory > stick, and fstab to figure out how to get it to happen automatically. The devfs > stuff is all mistaken, I think, you want that when you want to change > permissions or make softlinks of devices, not to create them in the first place, > least that's how I';'ve always used it, and I know very well that the correct > line in /etc/fstab WILL automount your memory stick. > Are you sure Chuck? The devfs rules stuff is to allow non-root users to mount removable media isn't it? I followed the instructions at http://gphoto.sourceforge.net/doc/manual/permissions-usb.html - the FreeBSD-specific stuff is near the bottom of the page - but I have *exactly* the same problem as the OP with my mobile phone. It is detected as da2 and da3 (phone and memory stick - mine's a SCSI system so da0 and da1 are the HDDs) but only the top-level device nodes (/dev/da[23]) are created. I can try to mount /dev/da3 until I'm blue in the face and it always fails but as soon as I attempt to mount /dev/da3s1 it fails first time but succeeds the second time because the /dev/da3s1 device node gets created on the first (failed) mount attempt. It doesn't matter whether I have an entry in /etc/fstab for /dev/da3s1 or not, it stills fails, but creates the device, on the first attempt. Maybe something has changed? The page I linked to above refers to FreeBSD 5 but I'm running 6.3-STABLE. Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 05:02:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5268106566B for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 05:02:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from mail9.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail9.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826E08FC18 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 05:02:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: (qmail 6487 invoked from network); 26 May 2008 04:35:39 -0000 Received: from mxperim4.sea5.speakeasy.net ([69.17.117.69]) (envelope-sender ) by mail9.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 May 2008 04:35:39 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mxperim4.sea5.speakeasy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0B46FA32; Sun, 25 May 2008 21:35:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mxperim4.sea5.speakeasy.net Received: from mxperim4.sea5.speakeasy.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mxperim4.sea5.speakeasy.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r1sY-KbEKMBk; Sun, 25 May 2008 21:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from w16.stradamotorsports.com (s6.stradamotorsports.com [64.81.163.124]) by mxperim4.sea5.speakeasy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP; Sun, 25 May 2008 21:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <483A3E1A.9030908@highperformance.net> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 21:35:38 -0700 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4pre (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KAYVEN RIESE References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup RELENG_6_3 to RELENG_7 impaired gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 05:02:20 -0000 Try downloading the binary packages for 7.0 that you need and install them. That would be fastest. FreeBSD doesn't claim to maintain binary (library?) compatibility across major releases. I personally have never had a problem, but I consider that dumb luck. Regards, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 05:37:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B667F106566C for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 05:37:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doublef-ctm@yandex.ru) Received: from smtp3.yandex.ru (smtp3.yandex.ru [213.180.223.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEC18FC1A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 05:37:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doublef-ctm@yandex.ru) Received: from [85.172.95.32] ([85.172.95.32]:51951 "EHLO shark" smtp-auth: "doublef-ctm" TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER-CN1: ) by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id S4747774AbYEZFVO (ORCPT ); Mon, 26 May 2008 09:21:14 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp3 X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1211779274 X-MsgDayCount: 2 X-Comment: RFC 2476 MSA function at smtp3.yandex.ru logged sender identity as: doublef-ctm Received: by shark (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D9BE2142018; Mon, 26 May 2008 09:21:10 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 09:21:10 +0400 From: Sergey Zaharchenko To: Mark Ovens Message-ID: <20080526052110.GA27788@shark.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: Sergey Zaharchenko , Mark Ovens , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4839ADF8.7090805@telenix.org> <483A3F52.9040907@magichamster.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <483A3F52.9040907@magichamster.com> X-Listening-To: Silence User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stick memory USB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 05:37:12 -0000 --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mark! Mon, May 26, 2008 at 05:40:50AM +0100 you wrote: > It is detected as da2 and da3 (phone and memory stick - mine's a SCSI > system so da0 and da1 are the HDDs) but only the top-level device nodes > (/dev/da[23]) are created. >=20 > I can try to mount /dev/da3 until I'm blue in the face and it always > fails but as soon as I attempt to mount /dev/da3s1 it fails first time > but succeeds the second time because the /dev/da3s1 device node gets > created on the first (failed) mount attempt. I had a similar problem with my card reader. AFAIU the problem with those is that they don't report media change events; the system gets to know what's there only when it tries to access it, one way or the other. This might be of help both to you and to the OP: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-January/138907.ht= ml It's not beautiful, but it works. --=20 DoubleF No virus detected in this message. Ehrm, wait a minute... /kernel: pid 56921 (antivirus), uid 32000: exited on signal 9 Oh yes, no virus:) --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFIOkjGwo7hT/9lVdwRAp77AJ9laOqMZYRuNbARw42MKqZi8drNTgCfaHy6 WdlXWdtqrwjMiQFiDoBJE4c= =wcVW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 05:41:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A64F106567B for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 05:41:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52D48FC3D for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 05:41:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:57834 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K0VSa-0005Oj-8l for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 07:41:29 +0200 Received: (qmail 14533 invoked from network); 26 May 2008 07:41:25 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 26 May 2008 07:41:25 +0200 Received: (qmail 34951 invoked by uid 1001); 26 May 2008 07:41:25 +0200 Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 07:41:25 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20080526054125.GA34908@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <483a0e28.yI2rkHoaWjLvkauP%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1K0VSa-0005Oj-8l. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1K0VSa-0005Oj-8l db662825031fe375a7e85847a0b29ba6 Cc: perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: non-RAID SATA X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 05:41:30 -0000 On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 08:01:42PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of > > perryh@pluto.rain.com > > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:11 PM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: non-RAID SATA > > > > > > I am looking for a cost-effective way to add a SATA drive to an > > existing 7.0 system whose on-board controller is PATA, and am not > > getting very far at all in identifying an inexpensive controller > > which would be expected to work well. (I'd prefer PCI, since the > > USB in this box is probably 1.0 and not capable of sustaining > > desirable data rates.) > > > > SATA is faster than PCI. Most people would replace the motherboard > or use a USB 2.0 card which has a far faster transfer speed than > PCI does as a transition, with the expectation that sooner or > later they are going to replace the system. While it is true that the maximum theoretical transfer speed available from SATA (150MB/s or 300MB/s depending on SATA version) exceeds that of a normal PCI bus (133MB/s for a standard 32bit/33MHz bus), there is currently no single SATA disk available on the market that will swamp the PCI bus. USB 2.0 is however much slower than either of SATA and PCI. USB 2.0 has a maximum theoretical transfer speed of 480Mbit/s ( = 60MB/s) with a practical maximum of maybe 30-40 MB/s - less than half of either PCI or SATA. > > > All mentions of SATA in the hardware guide and FAQ seem to be of > > RAID controllers, or else too generic to guide a choice of add-in > > cards. > > > > Does anyone have any experience with this that they would be > > inclined to share? > > In automotive terms your adding a free-flow exhaust to a restricted > engine - in the trade we call them adding a "fart can" because > they do nothing to help the car go faster since there's restrictions > further up the chain. It is unlikely that a PCI-based SATA card would be a noticable bottleneck in this case unless one were to connect several high-speed disks to the card. > > Go buy an inexpensive USB 2.0 external disk case, then buy your > SATA disk and stick it inside of that, with the idea that eventually > your going to get a faster machine you might be able to use the disk in. USB however would be a quite noticable bottleneck. Bad idea if you want anything resembling speed. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 05:53:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4D61065670 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 05:53:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ziaya@sipradi.com.np) Received: from mail.sipradi.com.np (mail.sipradi.com.np [202.52.237.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82DC8FC16 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 05:53:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ziaya@sipradi.com.np) Received: from ziaya ([192.168.1.92]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sipradi.com.np (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m4Q4kIfR005285 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 10:31:19 +0545 From: "Ziaya Syed Hasan" To: Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 10:31:09 +0545 Message-ID: <001101c8beeb$70713b00$5153b100$@com.np> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Aci0w5Eq8ik5FjeWRwGIISGNBEk/hA== Content-Language: en-us x-cr-puzzleid: {4E03BC0F-EF90-4EC3-B72D-B36B2F8EBD75} x-cr-hashedpuzzle: BIlW B1Pg CORi CQ2f Cy3M C1Aq DTJH FXB1 F6cn F7eb IYJq Io+N IrNb Julu KLwe KPTH; 1; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnAA==; Sosha1_v1; 7; {4E03BC0F-EF90-4EC3-B72D-B36B2F8EBD75}; egBpAGEAeQBhAEAAcwBpAHAAcgBhAGQAaQAuAGMAbwBtAC4AbgBwAA==; Mon, 26 May 2008 04:46:03 GMT; cwBxAHUAaQBkAGcAdQBhAHIAZAAgAGkAbgBzAHQAYQBsAGwAaQBuAGcAIABwAHIAbwBiAGwAZQBtACAALQAgAHUAbgBrAG4AbwB3AG4AIABiAGQAYgAgAHYAZQByAHMAaQBvAG4A Subject: squidguard installing problem - unknown bdb version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 05:53:12 -0000 Dear All, I have installed a lots of applications on the FreeBSD7 Server the list is attached below. When I try to install squidguard it gives me following error: stpl# pwd /usr/ports/www/squidguard stpl# make install clean ===> squidGuard-1.3 cannot install: unknown bdb version: 51. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/squidguard. =============================================== Can somebody please guide me to resolve this problem ? Thanking you in advance. S. H. Ziaya Kathmandu, Nepal. stpl# pkg_info apache-2.2.8 Version 2.2 of Apache web server with prefork MPM. arc-5.21o_1 Create & extract files from DOS .ARC files arj-3.10.22_1 Open-source ARJ autoconf-2.61_2 Automatically configure source code on many Un*x platforms autoconf-wrapper-20071109 Wrapper script for GNU autoconf bandwidthd-2.0.1_1 Tracks bandwidth usage by IP address bigreqsproto-1.0.2 BigReqs extension headers clamav-0.92.1_1 Command line virus scanner written entirely in C curl-7.16.3_1 Non-interactive tool to get files from FTP, GOPHER, HTTP(S) cyrus-sasl-2.1.22 RFC 2222 SASL (Simple Authentication and Security Layer) cyrus-sasl-saslauthd-2.1.22 SASL authentication server for cyrus-sasl2 db3-3.3.11_3,1 The Berkeley DB package, revision 3.3 db4-4.0.14_1,1 The Berkeley DB package, revision 4 dovecot-1.0.13_1 Secure and compact IMAP and POP3 servers expat-2.0.0_1 XML 1.0 parser written in C freetype2-2.3.5 A free and portable TrueType font rendering engine gd-2.0.35,1 A graphics library for fast creation of images gettext-0.16.1_3 GNU gettext package gmake-3.81_2 GNU version of 'make' utility gnupg-2.0.8 The GNU Privacy Guard gnutls-2.2.2 GNU Transport Layer Security library help2man-1.36.4_1 Automatically generating simple manual pages from program o inputproto-1.4.2.1 Input extension headers jabber-1.6.1.1_1,1 XMPP/Jabber server daemon jpeg-6b_4 IJG's jpeg compression utilities kbproto-1.0.3 KB extension headers lha-1.14i_6 Archive files using LZSS and Huffman compression (.lzh file libICE-1.0.4_1,1 Inter Client Exchange library for X11 libSM-1.0.3_1,1 Session Management library for X11 libX11-1.1.3_1,1 X11 library libXau-1.0.3_2 Authentication Protocol library for X11 libXaw-1.0.4_1,1 X Athena Widgets library libXdmcp-1.0.2_1 X Display Manager Control Protocol library libXext-1.0.3,1 X11 Extension library libXmu-1.0.3,1 X Miscellaneous Utilities libraries libXp-1.0.0,1 X print library libXpm-3.5.7 X Pixmap library libXt-1.0.5_1 X Toolkit library libassuan-1.0.4 IPC library used by GnuPG and gpgme libgcrypt-1.4.0 General purpose crypto library based on code used in GnuPG libgmp-4.2.2 A free library for arbitrary precision arithmetic libgpg-error-1.6 Common error values for all GnuPG components libiconv-1.11_1 A character set conversion library libidn-1.2 Internationalized Domain Names command line tool libksba-1.0.2 KSBA is an X.509 Library libtasn1-1.3 ASN.1 structure parser library libtool-1.5.24 Generic shared library support script libxml2-2.6.31 XML parser library for GNOME lynx-2.8.6.5_2,1 A non-graphical, text-based World-Wide Web client m4-1.4.9,1 GNU m4 mhash-0.9.9 An easy-to-use library for strong hashes such as MD5 and SH mysql-client-5.1.23 Multithreaded SQL database (client) mysql-server-5.1.23 Multithreaded SQL database (server) net-snmp-5.4.1_2 An extendable SNMP implementation p5-Archive-Tar-1.38_1 Perl module for creation and manipulation of tar files p5-Authen-PAM-0.16_1 A Perl interface to the PAM library p5-Authen-SASL-2.10_1 Perl5 module for SASL authentication p5-Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.008 Low-Level Interface to zlib compression library p5-Compress-Zlib-2.008 Perl5 interface to zlib compression library p5-DBD-mysql-4.006 MySQL driver for the Perl5 Database Interface (DBI) p5-DBI-1.60.1 The perl5 Database Interface. Required for DBD::* modules p5-Digest-1.15 Modules that calculate message digests p5-Digest-HMAC-1.01 Perl5 interface to HMAC Message-Digest Algorithms p5-Digest-MD5-2.36 Perl5 interface to the MD5 algorithm p5-Digest-SHA1-2.11 Perl interface to the SHA-1 Algorithm p5-Encode-Detect-1.00 An Encode::Encoding subclass that detects the encoding of d p5-Error-0.17012 Perl module to provide Error/exception support for perl: Er p5-ExtUtils-CBuilder-0.22_1 Compile and link C code for Perl modules p5-ExtUtils-ParseXS-2.19 Converts Perl XS code into C code p5-GSSAPI-0.26 Perl extension providing access to the GSSAPIv2 library p5-Geography-Countries-1.4 Handle ISO-3166 country codes p5-HTML-Parser-3.56_1 Perl5 module for parsing HTML documents p5-HTML-Tagset-3.20 Some useful data table in parsing HTML p5-IO-Compress-Base-2.008 Base Class for IO::Uncompress modules p5-IO-Compress-Zlib-2.008 Perl5 interface for reading and writing of (g)zip files p5-IO-Socket-INET6-2.52 Perl module with object interface to AF_INET6 domain socket p5-IO-Socket-SSL-1.13 Perl5 interface to SSL sockets p5-IO-String-1.08 Simplified Perl5 module to handle I/O on in-core strings p5-IO-Zlib-1.09 IO:: style interface to Compress::Zlib p5-IP-Country-2.23_1 Fast lookup of country codes from IP addresses p5-Inline-0.44 Write Perl subroutines in other programming languages p5-MIME-Base64-3.07 Perl5 module for Base64 and Quoted-Printable encodings p5-Mail-ClamAV-0.20_1 Perl extension for the clamav virus scanner p5-Mail-SPF-2.005 Reference implementation of the RFC 4408 SPF protocol p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.2.4_3 A highly efficient mail filter for identifying spam p5-Mail-Tools-2.02 Perl5 modules for dealing with Internet e-mail messages p5-Math-BigInt-1.87 Math::BigInt - Arbitrary size integer math package p5-Module-Build-0.28.08_2 Build and install Perl modules p5-Net-1.22,1 Perl5 modules to access and use network protocols p5-Net-DNS-0.63 Perl5 interface to the DNS resolver, and dynamic updates p5-Net-DNS-Resolver-Programmable-0.003 Programmable DNS resolver for off-line testing p5-Net-IP-1.25 Perl extension for manipulating IPv4/IPv6 addresses p5-Net-SSLeay-1.30_1 Perl5 interface to SSL p5-NetAddr-IP-4.00.7 Perl module for working with IP addresses and blocks thereo p5-Parse-RecDescent-1.95.1 A recursive descent parsing framework for Perl p5-Socket6-0.20 IPv6 related part of the C socket.h defines and structure m p5-Spiffy-0.30 Spiffy Perl Interface Framework For You p5-Storable-2.18 Persistency for perl data structures p5-Test-Base-0.54_1 Test::Base - A Data Driven Testing Framework p5-Text-Balanced-2.0.0_1 Extract delimited text sequences from strings p5-URI-1.36 Perl5 interface to Uniform Resource Identifier (URI) refere p5-YAML-0.66 YAML implementation in Perl p5-gettext-1.05_1 Message handling functions p5-libwww-5.805 Perl5 library for WWW access p5-version-0.74 Perl extension for Version Objects pcre-7.6 Perl Compatible Regular Expressions library pecl-fileinfo-1.0.4 A PECL extension to retrieve info about files pecl-filter-0.11.0 PHP extension for safely dealing with input parameters pecl-hash-1.5 HASH Message Digest Framework for PHP pecl-json-1.2.1 PHP extension for JSON (JavaScript Object Notation) seriali perl-5.8.8_1 Practical Extraction and Report Language php5-5.2.5_1 PHP Scripting Language php5-ctype-5.2.5_1 The ctype shared extension for php php5-dba-5.2.5_1 The dba shared extension for php php5-dom-5.2.5_1 The dom shared extension for php php5-extensions-1.1 A "meta-port" to install PHP extensions php5-gd-5.2.5_1 The gd shared extension for php php5-gettext-5.2.5_1 The gettext shared extension for php php5-iconv-5.2.5_1 The iconv shared extension for php php5-mbstring-5.2.5_1 The mbstring shared extension for php php5-mhash-5.2.5_1 The mhash shared extension for php php5-mysql-5.2.5_1 The mysql shared extension for php php5-openssl-5.2.5_1 The openssl shared extension for php php5-pcre-5.2.5_1 The pcre shared extension for php php5-pdo-5.2.5_1 The pdo shared extension for php php5-pdo_sqlite-5.2.5_1 The pdo_sqlite shared extension for php php5-posix-5.2.5_1 The posix shared extension for php php5-session-5.2.5_1 The session shared extension for php php5-simplexml-5.2.5_1 The simplexml shared extension for php php5-spl-5.2.5_1 The spl shared extension for php php5-sqlite-5.2.5_1 The sqlite shared extension for php php5-tokenizer-5.2.5_1 The tokenizer shared extension for php php5-xml-5.2.5_1 The xml shared extension for php php5-xmlreader-5.2.5_1 The xmlreader shared extension for php php5-xmlwriter-5.2.5_1 The xmlwriter shared extension for php pkg-config-0.23_1 A utility to retrieve information about installed libraries png-1.2.26 Library for manipulating PNG images popt-1.7_4 A getopt(3) like library with a number of enhancements, fro printproto-1.0.3 Print extension headers procmail-3.22_6 A local mail delivery agent pth-hard-2.0.7 GNU Portable Threads python-2.5,2 The "meta-port" for the default version of Python interpret python25-2.5.2_1 An interpreted object-oriented programming language razor-agents-2.84 A distributed, collaborative, spam detection and filtering spamass-milter-0.3.1_4 Sendmail Milter (mail filter) plugin for SpamAssassin squid-2.6.19 HTTP Caching Proxy squirrelmail-1.4.13 A webmail system which accesses mail over IMAP t1lib-5.1.2,1 A Type 1 Rasterizer Library for UNIX/X11 unzoo-4.4_2 A zoo archive extractor usermin-1.340 Web-based interface for performing some user tasks webmin-1.410 Web-based interface for system administration for Unix xcmiscproto-1.1.2 XCMisc extension headers xextproto-7.0.2 XExt extension headers xf86bigfontproto-1.1.2 XFree86-Bigfont extension headers xproto-7.0.10_1 X11 protocol headers xtrans-1.0.4 Abstract network code for X S. 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Don't print this e-mail unless it's really necessary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 06:40:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944811065671 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 06:40:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAA58FC1A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 06:40:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j4so1784722wah.3 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 23:40:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=DBaYYD5BKT/4KnMqY903BjEDwNYeeAs71M9kD8T5ie0=; b=RvbUywwfYkl0UqoCDR3soJZuVckrnf+FPjVdHGU9MMOaJ9aeH1e4Zc7iCSelLV3pB50/aLKTXX+C9VBrXoCVD5gNjVkwGOBpTFPIpI/a18IdyV//nO9Fa3zPFsdfjrD7RnfJFDr9fy5qnqY0/TUBuOKbYFu1nfHwZII111aMuSY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=vr+BQK6uC+t5sZRoV+X/EcqxwDMJn/ixK3Q9ZZZgd0n8EF5+DTC4qlZZtcnhvB6Snem7d+gjKepV0ehXdW1TOCya+t5LBlTUZZ094qI7EhGRKo5C4M0SRSnPtl3A8hjcHWeoRNxQ9U/6SilHTBnnGLo44qIYP/UOkUauAM16ax0= Received: by 10.114.195.19 with SMTP id s19mr2761687waf.57.1211784022955; Sun, 25 May 2008 23:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.174.15 with HTTP; Sun, 25 May 2008 23:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0805252340x5b8efc73lea4757b52c194351@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 02:40:22 -0400 From: alexus To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: ipnat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 06:40:23 -0000 hi i cant figure something out, maybe someone can help me... i have two interfaces on my 7.0-RELEASE-p1 dc0 and fxp0, dc0 has public IP, and fxp0 is internal, my ipnat.rules looks like this map dc0 192.168.2.0/24 -> 0/32 su-3.2# ipnat -l List of active MAP/Redirect filters: map dc0 192.168.2.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 List of active sessions: su-3.2# NAT on 192.168.2.0/24 doesn't seem to be working at all :( -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 07:21:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7511065670 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 07:21:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213E08FC1B for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 07:21:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m4Q7L2X4001890; Mon, 26 May 2008 00:21:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Erik Trulsson" Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 00:22:08 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <20080526054125.GA34908@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Mon, 26 May 2008 00:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Cc: perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: non-RAID SATA X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 07:21:05 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Erik Trulsson [mailto:ertr1013@student.uu.se] > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 10:41 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: perryh@pluto.rain.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: non-RAID SATA > > > On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 08:01:42PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of > > > perryh@pluto.rain.com > > > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:11 PM > > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: non-RAID SATA > > > > > > > > > I am looking for a cost-effective way to add a SATA drive to an > > > existing 7.0 system whose on-board controller is PATA, and am not > > > getting very far at all in identifying an inexpensive controller > > > which would be expected to work well. (I'd prefer PCI, since the > > > USB in this box is probably 1.0 and not capable of sustaining > > > desirable data rates.) > > > > > > > SATA is faster than PCI. Most people would replace the motherboard > > or use a USB 2.0 card which has a far faster transfer speed than > > PCI does as a transition, with the expectation that sooner or > > later they are going to replace the system. > > While it is true that the maximum theoretical transfer speed available > from SATA (150MB/s or 300MB/s depending on SATA version) exceeds that > of a normal PCI bus (133MB/s for a standard 32bit/33MHz bus), there > is currently no single SATA disk available on the market that will > swamp the PCI bus. > USB 2.0 is however much slower than either of SATA and PCI. > USB 2.0 has a maximum theoretical transfer speed of 480Mbit/s ( = 60MB/s) > with a practical maximum of maybe 30-40 MB/s - less than half of > either PCI > or SATA. > Oops, my bad - I misread that. Your correct about that. As for the original posters question I also know of no SATA PCI card that is non-RAID. However, it is possible to pick up used Adaptec 1200A pci RAID sata card off Ebay for about $15, all this is, is a re-branded Highpoint 1520 card and will work with FreeBSD. For some reason the equivalent Highpoint cards sell for a little more on Ebay. I personally don't understand the bias against these cards in the Windows community but there obviously is some. Adaptec discontinued these cards a while back, perhaps that is why. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 07:21:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6719E1065671 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 07:21:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from siseci@siseci.com) Received: from istanbul.enderunix.org (freefall.marmara.edu.tr [193.140.143.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEBA8FC1E for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 07:21:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from siseci@siseci.com) Received: (qmail 41059 invoked from network); 26 May 2008 06:54:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.4.36?) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 26 May 2008 06:54:14 -0000 Message-ID: <483A5E4D.2090901@siseci.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 09:53:01 +0300 From: Necati Ersen SISECI User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <6ae50c2d0805252340x5b8efc73lea4757b52c194351@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0805252340x5b8efc73lea4757b52c194351@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-9; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: ipnat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 07:21:08 -0000 Nat rule should be like this. map dc0 192.168.2.0/24 -> External_IP/32 alexus yazmýþ: > hi > > i cant figure something out, maybe someone can help me... > > i have two interfaces on my 7.0-RELEASE-p1 dc0 and fxp0, dc0 has > public IP, and fxp0 is internal, my ipnat.rules looks like this > > map dc0 192.168.2.0/24 -> 0/32 > > su-3.2# ipnat -l > List of active MAP/Redirect filters: > map dc0 192.168.2.0/24 -> 0.0.0.0/32 > > List of active sessions: > su-3.2# > > NAT on 192.168.2.0/24 doesn't seem to be working at all :( > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 07:26:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE23E106567B for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 07:26:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ruel.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930C38FC1D for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 07:26:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ruel.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1146530ywe.13 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 00:26:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=nln0fdtveu+3JpBEGT8E+JtSWxfCt+qOod2i319fVWc=; b=p+1Vqa7HOHi/HFb480EqfpISa2nHFENTH3F4hlxLGXnABqTc2QYYrc8EWyFMGgfrnPLPrjMpKyJjH9dlEUiCeKPZ6N3csPSWGo+A/wb1fx5E3wektulBiaYUjWT8K7OVXwySc3N4Hx0Z2TAEo4aPSqnFFUMSF5HgKsvXXAelJ10= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bYgy/PCS08CnJXkqSxY/KhT/TAgk5gwWjYa3mxw01dgBPSsX/+RLFD2iKF4P4KwyY0ZNH/BfBCL51msn4YvThMFI79gu6pXmAZOIOhXYA8V4iu78Nhbkd8vI19THwxxDgeYzcsPZF7vBqaA42yIcG5klPkcZlEl9GuQsipfbDUI= Received: by 10.150.73.6 with SMTP id v6mr3093000yba.111.1211786781646; Mon, 26 May 2008 00:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.97.21 with HTTP; Mon, 26 May 2008 00:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 15:26:21 +0800 From: "Ruel Luchavez" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "Ruel Luchavez" In-Reply-To: <20080524233713.GB5679@shepherd> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080524054033.GA4936@shepherd> <20080524233713.GB5679@shepherd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Uninstall Webmin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 07:26:27 -0000 Thanks for your reply..I've just solve it CHeerss On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote: > * Ruel Luchavez [05-24-2008]: > > > but how do you uninstall the setup.sh? i have uninstall the webmin > through > > its ports (deinstall) but every time i use again the setup.sh to finish > the > > installation of webmin the server still read the old setup.sh > configuration > > ( i can't set anymore the port,logs directory,username, etc.) > > It is difficult to understand your exact problem or question, but does > /usr/local/etc/webmin/ exist by any chance? It was probably (since you > modified its contents, this is a good thing) not deleted by 'make > deinstall'. > So: > > # rm -rf /usr/local/etc/webmin && /usr/local/lib/webmin/setup.sh > > -- > Sahil Tandon > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 07:31:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14350106564A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 07:31:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [194.62.233.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD518FC15 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 07:30:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from sp34.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.107] helo=bs1.sp34.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1K0XAY-000Ljr-6i; Mon, 26 May 2008 11:30:58 +0400 Received: from bsam by bs1.sp34.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1K0XFI-0000Ne-SE; Mon, 26 May 2008 11:35:52 +0400 To: Derek Graham References: <200805251544.26380.derek.graham@att.net> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 11:35:52 +0400 In-Reply-To: <200805251544.26380.derek.graham@att.net> (Derek Graham's message of "Sun\, 25 May 2008 15\:44\:25 -0500") Message-ID: <97170071@bs1.sp34.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux Compatibility version of libXau X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 07:31:00 -0000 On Sun, 25 May 2008 15:44:25 -0500 Derek Graham wrote: > I am trying to get the linux version of Planeshift to work but I need to find > a linux version of libXau, cant find it in ports tho :( anyone got a solution > to getting Planeshift to work? Imho libXau was introduced at Fedora Core 5. We have a default FC4 base linux port. So I'm afraid you have little chances with defaults. However sometime ago (something like a month) I've posted experimental patches (please, check archives of emulation@ ML) to use Fedora 8 ports. The needed library is included. Please be aware that you should have (at least) a recent 7-STABLE to use those patches. Sorry for a short message but I don't have much spare time for now. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 07:40:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8C610656C4 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 07:40:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from web52107.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52107.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D1578FC30 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 07:40:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 74670 invoked by uid 60001); 26 May 2008 07:40:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=IEHo6hAH13VW38x8Gm1nwlbOqy4dmiyt4LNttyUCACEKB41IEQ4iyDUJV1tOGyT5FNSjsLd24xSRg8ZOCdJMqsGQYZR7R+ecQvw8M/lF0U014pD1aSdavB0vbiXUCq2F5mloQBdU2T7eNUnXA/UWCKaQA5B44mQ8qygrk04uHkA=; X-YMail-OSG: pkLpiJ4VM1muk_tMXg9Yjh4DJHP2xN2coC3Opee7FCoKpc6LGAnoT6eWD1_AcplavjMsVlooWyOLu0ImFvle.0aRK5WNvKMqxVTt6TdrS0QK1yu8av.8Ht_xNg-- Received: from [70.190.145.127] by web52107.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 26 May 2008 00:40:37 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/975.41 YahooMailWebService/0.7.185 Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 00:40:37 -0700 (PDT) From: gahn To: Norman Maurer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <525394.73613.qm@web52107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Cc: free bsd , freebsd general questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD crashed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 07:40:42 -0000 thanks you all: it is dual boot system. somehow the sp3 of xp messed up the file /etc/fstab. i used freesbie live cd fixed the file and rescued the files i need. best regards ----- Original Message ---- From: Norman Maurer To: gahn Cc: freebsd general questions ; free bsd Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 2:22:05 AM Subject: Re: FreeBSD crashed Just type "?" to get the possible values. If this not help use the livefs cd to start a shell and mount the disk. Cheers, Norman 2008/5/25 gahn : > Hello all: > > My FreeBSD crashed. It boots fine but can't mount root directory. Here is the message: > > ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > ... > .... > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a > > Manual root filesystem specification: > : Mount using filesystem > eg. ufs:da0s1a > ? List valid disk boot devices > Abort manual input > > mountroot> > > /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > > Could any gurus here help me out this? I just want to save the files in the home directory so that I can rebuild the system. > > Regards > > Dave > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 07:41:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DDA1065675 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 07:41:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927958FC17 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 07:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4Q7fCYw081571; Mon, 26 May 2008 09:41:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m4Q7fCd5081568; Mon, 26 May 2008 09:41:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 09:41:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: perryh@pluto.rain.com In-Reply-To: <483a0e28.yI2rkHoaWjLvkauP%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Message-ID: <20080526094013.U81567@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <483a0e28.yI2rkHoaWjLvkauP%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: non-RAID SATA X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 07:41:24 -0000 > which would be expected to work well. (I'd prefer PCI, since the > USB in this box is probably 1.0 and not capable of sustaining > desirable data rates.) > > All mentions of SATA in the hardware guide and FAQ seem to be of > RAID controllers, or else too generic to guide a choice of add-in > cards. > > Does anyone have any experience with this that they would be > inclined to share? most controllers on market are non-RAID. they are just simple SATA controllers, with firmware that does software RAID. fortunately you don't have to use it From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 08:00:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C8A106566B for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 08:00:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FCD08FC13 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 08:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 65893 invoked by uid 60001); 26 May 2008 08:00:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=UVjTmHD4is2M4IRvIlmPhoIcRz53b/UZWupVpBHf0Y1kMjizvNwuKmB7ItD3d6co6or3Et+JlQCakgSHe6tOzqr2NKXVh5vbEbz6T4aqNQYFgdpB783GlSGpu909SGA4udh/EMoo0CmH0dKPlIYJwh7r9dIRKdPS9RfulSI8rxY=; X-YMail-OSG: 5hV5k7UVM1lFmKh656Ocl8SMGWtmqZ0u6YmWRn9mVyL3IHJqA.eph5t5Br_Gb_Z.aB1ZQtgWXHm_l_TTiLxi6BTu2hKsfTjpdpNe Received: from [70.190.145.127] by web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 26 May 2008 01:00:06 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/975.41 YahooMailWebService/0.7.185 Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 01:00:06 -0700 (PDT) From: gahn To: freebsd general questions , free bsd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <655295.65067.qm@web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: the problem for compiling customized kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 08:00:11 -0000 Hi all: I have weird a problem to compile a customized kernel after I used "freebsd-update" untility. I followed the exact instructions in the "handbook" and for some reasons it stuck with the "GENERIC": make buildkernel KERNELCONF=laptop During the compilation, I noticed, instead of using the customized file "laptop->/root/kernels/laptop", the compilation uses the file "GENERIC". Any ideas why is that? Thanks in advance! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 08:19:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767E91065674; Mon, 26 May 2008 08:19:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thn@saeab.se) Received: from ture.saeab.se (ture.saeab.se [213.80.3.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63858FC19; Mon, 26 May 2008 08:19:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thn@saeab.se) Received: from [10.0.1.56] (bongo.int.saeab.se [10.0.1.56]) by ture.saeab.se (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4Q85cJU068420; Mon, 26 May 2008 10:05:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from thn@saeab.se) Message-ID: <483A6F4B.50700@saeab.se> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 10:05:31 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Thomas_Nystr=F6m?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gahn References: <655295.65067.qm@web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <655295.65067.qm@web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on ture.saeab.se X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (ture.saeab.se [213.80.3.133]); Mon, 26 May 2008 10:05:41 +0200 (CEST) Cc: free bsd , freebsd general questions Subject: Re: the problem for compiling customized kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 08:19:10 -0000 gahn skrev: > Hi all: > > I have weird a problem to compile a customized kernel after I used > "freebsd-update" untility. > > I followed the exact instructions in the "handbook" and for some reasons' > it stuck with the "GENERIC": > > make buildkernel KERNELCONF=laptop > > During the compilation, I noticed, instead of using the customized > file "laptop->/root/kernels/laptop", the compilation uses the file "GENERIC". > > Any ideas why is that? Try using the command: make buildkernel KERNCONF=laptop instead, drop the letters 'EL' from the commandline! /thn -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Svensk Aktuell Elektronik AB Thomas Nyström Box 10 Phone: +46 73 069 69 30 S-191 21 Sollentuna Fax: +46 8 35 92 89 Sweden Email: thn@saeab.se --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 08:24:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45ECD1065678 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 08:24:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E228FC20 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 08:23:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K0Xzl-0006RL-7y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 08:23:53 +0000 Received: from mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net ([82.237.75.54]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 08:23:53 +0000 Received: from gilles.ganault by mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 08:23:53 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Gilles Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 10:23:45 +0200 Lines: 18 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080526-0, 26/05/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Sender: news Subject: Downloading files from MS Terminal Services server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 08:24:00 -0000 Hello We have a Windows 2003 Server running the Terminal Services service so that users can log on to that server and work there just like they were on their desktop. This server has some source code that I'd like to download and put into Subversion on a FreeBSD server. Problem is, the only way to connect to that server is through the Terminal Services thingie, listening on the standard TCP3389. I don't have access to the server, so can install eg. an FTP server. I was wondering if there were a solution to automate the connection, ie. connect/logon to that service, access the drive there to download files, and connect out. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 08:32:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931E8106567C for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 08:32:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ianf@clue.co.za) Received: from munchkin.clue.co.za (munchkin.clue.co.za [66.219.59.160]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3128FC12 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 08:32:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ianf@clue.co.za) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=simple; s=20070313; d=clue.co.za; h=Received:Received:Received:To:cc:From:Subject:In-Reply-To:X-Attribution:Date:Message-Id; b=YHnA3AhwdtkU8RZw6JeSHugZfzLtAQlwdaCgqNueT6O9f1MSG0rYlXWe/g6M945hXjEaIMTycTpH2gqC1lJASPuES1Za8yfjwiiS33byUahQpQ9zWHOl1tdKmx6rPmCvq90u8YnkYtZYjAr1QHZdVFt0Dg9eaKAGhxK4WhkfErW563cw4AcugJhEkNsg+DqaxCyUVhQRLEHsOkihhFqo5VbPS3SpEjRR66isj9yiGlF4nB6LOwM2YhgxXUn2bZAR; Received: from uucp by munchkin.clue.co.za with local-rmail (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1K0XoP-0008P4-97; Mon, 26 May 2008 08:12:09 +0000 Received: from ianf.clue.co.za ([10.0.0.6] helo=clue.co.za) by urchin.clue.co.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1K0Xnz-0007d8-Kx; Mon, 26 May 2008 08:11:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=clue.co.za) by clue.co.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1K0Xnz-0000jf-66; Mon, 26 May 2008 10:11:43 +0200 To: gahn From: Ian FREISLICH In-Reply-To: Message from gahn of "Mon, 26 May 2008 01:00:06 MST." <655295.65067.qm@web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Attribution: BOFH Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 10:11:43 +0200 Message-Id: Cc: free bsd , freebsd general questions Subject: Re: the problem for compiling customized kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 08:32:32 -0000 gahn wrote: > Hi all: > > I have weird a problem to compile a customized kernel after I used > "freebsd-update" untility. > > I followed the exact instructions in the "handbook" and for some > reasons it stuck with the "GENERIC": > > make buildkernel KERNELCONF=laptop > > During the compilation, I noticed, instead of using the customized > file "laptop->/root/kernels/laptop", the compilation uses the file > "GENERIC". > > Any ideas why is that? You want "KERNCONF=laptop" Ian -- Ian Freislich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 10:26:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5EB11065687 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 10:26:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B218FC27 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 10:26:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 20628 invoked from network); 26 May 2008 05:26:33 -0500 Received: from 124-171-240-53.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO ayiin) (124.171.240.53) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 26 May 2008 05:26:33 -0500 Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 20:26:29 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080526202629.0966b2f8@ayiin> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Downloading files from MS Terminal Services server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 10:26:34 -0000 On Mon, 26 May 2008 10:23:45 +0200 Gilles wrote: > This server has some source code that I'd like to download and put > into Subversion on a FreeBSD server. > > Problem is, the only way to connect to that server is through the > Terminal Services thingie, listening on the standard TCP3389. I don't > have access to the server, so can install eg. an FTP server. > > I was wondering if there were a solution to automate the connection, > ie. connect/logon to that service, access the drive there to download > files, and connect out. AFAIK, file transfer wouldn't happen over tcp/3389 . Why don't you log to the TS server and then push the files out to your other machine ? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 10:33:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E931065674 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 10:33:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gunther.mayer@googlemail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5518FC20 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 10:33:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gunther.mayer@googlemail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id q2so430054uge.37 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 03:33:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bq6jH4uETXkgyv5Q297C/FryuVwOwrGOpPlc6oimQ9c=; b=R5PkUpREO2CasVgiDfFyGMg2ps5+mgiBDUAMPtQUA6hLkpqmMAgGZQQoRiXAK7qE9gxW/Qm3lIpn57GVWvRB1BLXG5sBPj50g9gAgY4q0OMlLKXMOy7PgV/NAa4HN0qjkts2AJbwyZymIZx1EgQNBM8tKR5zMPCO0VAAKFS06d4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=H5xhS5uxgkqDsqiVh59JpPIKDFoVVN8KTF93QaWsi2YTbwDE+y5N3BbmmNQP3/1hjZBFvBfs/UyUgibgk5GhbTsuZ5PzuH60Rr5bKkwkdtHbAo4Uu5kVbduOOLiuUfam+IcZ+dge21hbx05TSCSxOHNZfhNkHON34XuIDus+4WU= Received: by 10.67.97.1 with SMTP id z1mr2691072ugl.11.1211798026685; Mon, 26 May 2008 03:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?172.25.0.228? ( [196.7.14.186]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 24sm9298485ugf.62.2008.05.26.03.33.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 26 May 2008 03:33:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <483A91BD.5050307@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 12:32:29 +0200 From: Gunther Mayer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080502) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <483199E1.5040505@gmail.com> <1ca03352a67fee9bc3c252700828bcbd@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1ca03352a67fee9bc3c252700828bcbd@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: The impossible happened, committing suicide X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 10:33:49 -0000 Joshua Isom wrote: > On May 19, 2008, at 10:16 AM, Gunther Mayer wrote: > >> Assertion failed: (0 && "The impossible happened, committing >> suicide"), function load_plist, file store_txt.c, line 840. >> Abort trap >> >> Obviously a developer's joke, but I'm concerned that there might be a >> real problem. Would anybody here have any clue as to why this would >> occur? > > It looks like portsearch is where the assertion fails. With a cursory > look, you have a bad plist file for some port and portsearch just dies > when it gets bad input. The "best" thing to do would be to patch > portsearch to figure out what file is causing the problem, > `s->plist_fn`, and either delete it(assuming portsearch updates it, > since I seem to have few files starting with plist and it looks as > though it's trying to load a file named plist I'm assuming it's > controlled by portsearch) or just reinstall portsearch. You're right, it is portsearch that's giving the problem, but neither reinstalling portsearch (upgrading actually) nor a regeneration of its files seem to work. When I do an "rm -rf /var/db/portsearch && portsearch -u" portsearch completes fine, but any subsequent invocations of "portsearch -u" fail with the same problem. It seems like it generates the same corrupt data over and over again and next time it runs it chokes on its own mess... > > But as I said, I just did a cursory look, and I don't use portsearch, > so I'm only looking at the source code. Any portsearch users out there? Gunther From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 10:46:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029EA106566B for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 10:46:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nej.papillon@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C548C8FC13 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 10:46:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nej.papillon@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2220050rvf.43 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 03:46:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=9euPL4oFONx0h9icu3jvAUjIDhRhHSLtjvq+Fcu1Ew8=; b=bhA3gnZyn6aVSfG4rHZXwfLajEMrCl9Pfm2Zd4XcRlIANzUNviTFwWbuZvvZDoVHW2CT9gBAbvU7XJUW+FtcTKGDE6eNrLZzuhTTGT8HwaEkLUHDTxpv8VupM4bW4ZJmXqi/JyRqbHXuUYjTYvWekOH+YXOVOZkfbzR3rdHbNsU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GsKidOTHOkj5iHrTxx0mc/mWaFo+35MGzGqT1euP77eCv4FqBjqUERMzW1WS4fQnN0VYP7BYulWI7gOVLYmOy2wJhe6hkDdEp9r8QNMnepHAHhnpt6U7e1BR95z2iixU08bYpTgiXootCv5BiuiR7bAuElkRZVnFmkb+SWiXeDQ= Received: by 10.141.44.13 with SMTP id w13mr2099099rvj.181.1211798774358; Mon, 26 May 2008 03:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.142.14 with HTTP; Mon, 26 May 2008 03:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 12:46:14 +0200 From: "nej ALL" To: "Chuck Robey" In-Reply-To: <4839ADF8.7090805@telenix.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4839ADF8.7090805@telenix.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stick memory USB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 10:46:15 -0000 Hi, Thank you for you response. Sorry to tell you that i'm not trying to create a file with the devfs. I just want to try to mount the filesystem (memory stick). I realize that the device represent a filesystem, and to mount the filesystem we need the device file /dev/da2s1. This device file is "normally" created dynamically. But in my case it doesn't. May be forget i forget something in my configuration. Any idea Thanks again for your help. Nej. 2008/5/25 Chuck Robey : > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > nej ALL wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm new on FreeBSD not on unix. > > > > I want to mount automatically an usb-stick memory into my machine ? > > I get some problems. > > > > Need help. > > You're trying with your devfs stuff to create the file, but you have to > realize > it's a device representing a filesystem, not just a file. What you want to > read > is the mount and fstab man pages, mount to find out how to mount your > memory > stick, and fstab to figure out how to get it to happen automatically. The > devfs > stuff is all mistaken, I think, you want that when you want to change > permissions or make softlinks of devices, not to create them in the first > place, > least that's how I';'ve always used it, and I know very well that the > correct > line in /etc/fstab WILL automount your memory stick. > > I could give you the exact line, but I think you would rather look that up > yourself (I know I would). > > > > > -> /etc/devfs.rules > > add path 'da*' mode 0660 group operator > > > > Actions: > > 1) ls -al /dev/da* > > ls: No match. > > > > 2) I Plug into the USB port, the ImageMate 12-in-1 Card Reader/Writer > > (SanDisk) > > > > 3) ls -al /dev/da* > > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 136 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da0 > > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 138 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da1 > > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 140 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da2 > > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 141 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da3 > > > > 4) I put the memory stick into the Card reader's slot > > > > 5) ls -al /dev/da* > > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 136 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da0 > > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 138 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da1 > > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 140 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da2 > > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 141 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da3 > > > > the /dev/da2s1 isn't here. > > > > 6) mount_msdosfs /dev/da2s1 /mnt/cleusb/ > > mount_msdosfs: /dev/da2s1: No such file or directory > > > > 7) fdisk /dev/da2 > > ******* Working on device /dev/da2 ******* > > parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: > > cylinders=30 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) > > > > parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: > > cylinders=30 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) > > > > Media sector size is 512 > > Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 > > Information from DOS bootblock is: > > The data for partition 1 is: > > sysid 4 (0x04),(Primary DOS with 16 bit FAT (< 32MB)) > > start 64, size 62656 (30 Meg), flag 0 > > beg: cyl 1/ head 0/ sector 1; > > end: cyl 979/ head 1/ sector 32 > > The data for partition 2 is: > > > > The data for partition 3 is: > > > > The data for partition 4 is: > > > > > > 8) ls -al /dev/da* > > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 136 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da0 > > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 138 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da1 > > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 140 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da2 > > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 141 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da3 > > > > 9) mount_msdosfs /dev/da2 /mnt/cleusb > > mount_msdosfs: /dev/da2: Invalid argument > > > > The command mount_msdosfs terminated abnormally but created in the /dev > > directory the /dev/da2s1 file. > > > > 10) ls -al /dev/da* > > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 136 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da0 > > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 136 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da0 > > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 138 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da1 > > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 140 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da2 > > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 142 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da2s1 > > crw-rw---- 1 root operator 0, 141 25 mai 14:11 /dev/da3 > > > > 11) And now i can mount and umount the stick memory. > > > > Please, can someone explain to me why, when i plug the stick memory into > the > > slot of the card reader, the system doesn't create the /dev/da2s1 file > in > > the the /dev directory. > > > > And why i use the mount_msdosfs command, this command creates /dev/da2s1 > > file in the /dev directory. > > > > Thank you for your answers ! > > > > Sorry for my english. > > > > Best regards > > > > Nej > > > > Email : nej.papillon@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFIOa34z62J6PPcoOkRAgH6AKCUgvP/EqN9INW2oQ+F+JCob71WYwCfaoJB > E1viOjy7youaf0uoJ/EDK9I= > =VDLR > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 10:55:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18C7106568D; Mon, 26 May 2008 10:55:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cerny@icomvision.com) Received: from mohinder.icomvision.com (icom.casablanca.cz [81.0.254.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5A38FC2A; Mon, 26 May 2008 10:55:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cerny@icomvision.com) Received: by mohinder.icomvision.com (Postfix, from userid 503) id 24FC0F19B9; Mon, 26 May 2008 12:37:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 12:37:00 +0200 From: Marian Cerny To: gahn Message-ID: <20080526103700.GA6137@icomvision.com> References: <655295.65067.qm@web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <483A6F4B.50700@saeab.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <483A6F4B.50700@saeab.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the problem for compiling customized kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 10:55:57 -0000 On 2008-05-26 10:05 +0200, Thomas Nyström wrote: > gahn skrev: > >I have weird a problem to compile a customized kernel after I used > >"freebsd-update" untility. > > > >I followed the exact instructions in the "handbook" and for some reasons' > >it stuck with the "GENERIC": > > > >make buildkernel KERNELCONF=laptop > > > >During the compilation, I noticed, instead of using the customized > >file "laptop->/root/kernels/laptop", the compilation uses the file > >"GENERIC". > > Try using the command: > > make buildkernel KERNCONF=laptop > > instead, drop the letters 'EL' from the commandline! You might find handy to put the following line into /etc/make.conf so you don't have to keep in your mind what to put into command line when rebuilding kernel: KERNCONF ?= laptop Marian Cerny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 11:21:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3491065688 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 11:21:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from jedburgh.just4dns.com (jedburgh.just4dns.com [78.129.134.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D398FC18 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 11:21:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from [86.153.243.228] (helo=movens.plus.com) by jedburgh.just4dns.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K0alA-0002bQ-2d for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 12:21:00 +0100 Received: from [10.10.1.4] (redshift [10.10.1.4]) by postbag.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C5491CC32 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 12:21:06 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <483A9D21.1060509@magichamster.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 12:21:05 +0100 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080524) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4839ADF8.7090805@telenix.org> <483A3F52.9040907@magichamster.com> <20080526052110.GA27788@shark.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20080526052110.GA27788@shark.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 1K0alA-0002bQ-2d X-Fuzioned-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-From: parish@magichamster.com X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jedburgh.just4dns.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - magichamster.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: Stick memory USB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 11:21:12 -0000 Sergey Zaharchenko wrote: > Hello Mark! > > I had a similar problem with my card reader. AFAIU the problem with > those is that they don't report media change events; the system gets to > know what's there only when it tries to access it, one way or the other. > This might be of help both to you and to the OP: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-January/138907.html > > It's not beautiful, but it works. > Hi Sergey, yes that is it, thanks. If I connect the reader to the USB hub first then put the card in, it only creates the top level devices, but it I put the card in the reader, _then_ connect the reader then all the devices are created. I guess that to make this work with my phone I would have to connect the phone when it is switched off, then switch it on - but it is quicker to make two mount attempts ;-) At least I know what is happening now, and that it's not something broken with my system. Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 12:00:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C2510656AA for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 12:00:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from web52106.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52106.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 915AA8FC12 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 12:00:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 43926 invoked by uid 60001); 26 May 2008 12:00:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=GIQ5uNind0APcMMilOIyyHmd+/QmDtKpkt9Jo6Xn2vcTwCp9cZMTKmEPVU/Zl1RxWyIiBd/0xruGkM/QCfDQj3VHDxRJfxYRifLb5tHKyb2VvuOBeBwI4/aW1U96c/H5cNeXcd5ykJN+O4DFnDJ9EDX8sgYY9nhKMxeqUcI3efI=; X-YMail-OSG: oCb27qYVM1mkwdf_RkoijmoyFbV6DCwc19RWbhaHH6nC_2hTsafLD_i6pRZXmPdc_ZnubEAZzDBvIoqOPHgOtgYrYjFksN6ATk3q Received: from [70.190.145.127] by web52106.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 26 May 2008 05:00:37 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/975.41 YahooMailWebService/0.7.185 Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 05:00:37 -0700 (PDT) From: gahn To: free bsd , freebsd general questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <596589.42178.qm@web52106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: portupgrade errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 12:00:39 -0000 Hi all: trying to upgrade the ports and got errors: /////////////////////////// beichuan# portupgrade -a [Rebuilding the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 382 packages found (-0 +382) .............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................. done] [Updating the portsdb in /usr/ports ... - 18529 port entries found .........1000.........2000.........3000.........4000.........5000.........6000.........7000.........8000.........9000.........10000.........11000.........12000.........13000.........14000.........15000.........16000.........17000.........18000..... ..... done] [missing key: categories] [Updating the portsdb in /usr/ports ... - 18529 port entries found .........1000.........2000.........3000.........4000.........5000.........6000.........7000.........8000.........9000.........10000.........11000.........12000.........13000.........14000.........15000.........16000.........17000.........18000..... ..... done] missing key: categories: Cannot read the portsdb! /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/portsdb.rb:567:in `open_db': database file error (PortsDB::DBError) from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/portsdb.rb:736:in `port' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/portsdb.rb:924:in `all_depends_list' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:915:in `tsort_build' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:907:in `each' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:907:in `tsort_build' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:929:in `sort_build' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:933:in `sort_build!' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:694:in `main' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:755:in `initialize' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:210:in `new' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:210:in `main' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:1981 /////////////////////////////////// were the errors from my side or from the portal side? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 12:10:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A28106566B for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 12:10:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from n00dles@neocyber.info) Received: from relay02.pair.com (relay02.pair.com [209.68.5.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A99378FC16 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 12:10:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from n00dles@neocyber.info) Received: (qmail 43858 invoked by uid 0); 26 May 2008 11:44:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO io.local) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 26 May 2008 11:44:02 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 92.1.34.247 Message-ID: <483AA282.1090007@neocyber.info> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 12:44:02 +0100 From: Chris Nicholls User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Routing issues? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 12:10:45 -0000 Hello all, I seem to have stumbled on problem and I just can't see a reason for it. One of my FreeBSD 7.0 machines stops responding on the network, the strange thing is you could set your watch by it. approx every 5 minutes for 5 minutes it will not respond on any interface. I've googled around but not having a clear idea of what is going on its hard to narrow down the search and the only two things I have in /var/log/messages are as follows: May 26 11:49:14 zeus kernel: arplookup 192.168.0.1 failed: host is not on local network May 26 11:49:14 zeus kernel: arpresolve: can't allocate route for 192.168.0.1 May 26 11:49:14 zeus named[686]: /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179: unexpected error: May 26 11:49:14 zeus named[686]: internal_send: 192.36.148.17#53: Invalid argument The machine has two internal NIC's setup like so, with the second address on both cards being an alias. fxp0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 00:06:29:1f:72:6d inet 192.168.0.12 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 inet 192.168.0.13 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 192.168.0.13 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active fxp1: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 00:06:29:1f:72:6e inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 10.255.255.255 inet 172.16.0.1 netmask 0xffff0000 broadcast 172.16.255.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active also my routing table: Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 192.168.0.1 UGS 0 40160 fxp0 10.0.0.0/8 link#2 UC 0 0 fxp1 92.0.0.0/8 192.168.0.1 UG 0 0 fxp0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 137 lo0 172.16.0.0/16 link#2 UC 0 0 fxp1 192.168.0.0/24 link#1 UC 0 0 fxp0 192.168.0.1 00:0c:30:5a:79:76 UHLW 3 0 fxp0 908 192.168.0.10 00:11:2f:06:f1:fe UHLW 1 8 fxp0 917 192.168.0.11 00:40:d0:5e:42:d0 UHLW 1 16 fxp0 908 192.168.0.12 00:06:29:1f:72:6d UHLS 1 57676 lo0 192.168.0.13 00:06:29:1f:72:6d UHLS 1 156441 lo0 => 192.168.0.13/32 link#1 UC 0 0 fxp0 192.168.0.44 00:16:cb:cb:6e:db UHLW 2 1154 fxp0 1022 192.168.0.56 00:18:f3:42:a1:0a UHLW 1 2 fxp0 1197 The machine is acting as a router/gateway between 192.168.0.0/24 and 10.0.0.0/8 running routed -s and gateway_enable="yes" Regards -- /********* _ * * ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) Chris Nicholls * * against HTML e-mail X http://n00dles.net * * www.asciiribbon.org / \ (PGP key available) * * n00dles@n00dles.net n00dles@neocyber.info * * ********/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 12:47:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50412106566B for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 12:47:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A89F8FC1B for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 12:47:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K0c6k-0002Fu-VI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 12:47:22 +0000 Received: from mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net ([82.237.75.54]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 12:47:22 +0000 Received: from gilles.ganault by mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 12:47:22 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Gilles Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 14:47:10 +0200 Lines: 17 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080526-0, 26/05/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Sender: news Subject: Is it safe to upgrade libraries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 12:47:28 -0000 Hello When running "'pkg_version -v", I notice that some libraries are out of date, such as the most important glib: glib-2.14.6 < needs updating (port has 2.16.3) Before I go ahead and run "cd /usr/ports/devel/glib20 ; make ; make install", I'd like to check what the recommended way is to upgrade critical applications like this? As I connect remotely through SSH, I wouldn't want to break this box and have to drive to the location because it won't run after the upgrade. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 13:00:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4AAF1065679 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 13:00:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from smtp.ulb.ac.be (mxout.ulb.ac.be [164.15.128.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1478FC26 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 13:00:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AugAAGtROkikD30E/2dsb2JhbAAIrCI Received: from bebif01.ulb.ac.be (HELO [10.0.0.194]) ([164.15.125.4]) by smtp.ulb.ac.be with ESMTP; 26 May 2008 15:00:05 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: Gilles In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 17:07:50 +0200 Message-Id: <1211814470.2614.5.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is it safe to upgrade libraries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 13:00:20 -0000 portmaster (or portupgrade) should handle this for you. don't forget to check /usr/ports/UPDATING before any updates. On Mon, 2008-05-26 at 14:47 +0200, Gilles wrote: > Hello > > When running "'pkg_version -v", I notice that some libraries are out > of date, such as the most important glib: > > glib-2.14.6 < needs updating (port has > 2.16.3) > > Before I go ahead and run "cd /usr/ports/devel/glib20 ; make ; make > install", I'd like to check what the recommended way is to upgrade > critical applications like this? > > As I connect remotely through SSH, I wouldn't want to break this box > and have to drive to the location because it won't run after the > upgrade. > > Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform http://www.biodiversity.be Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) Campus de la Plaine CP 257 Bâtiment NO, Bureau 4 N4 115C (Niveau 4) Boulevard du Triomphe, entrée ULB 2 B-1050 Bruxelles Mail: jcigar@ulb.ac.be @biobel: http://biobel.biodiversity.be/person/show/471 Tel : 02 650 57 52 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 13:13:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D98106564A; Mon, 26 May 2008 13:13:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jille@quis.cx) Received: from istud.quis.cx (ip83-113-174-82.adsl2.versatel.nl [82.174.113.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B0B68FC18; Mon, 26 May 2008 13:13:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jille@quis.cx) Received: by istud.quis.cx (Postfix, from userid 100) id 9E0673984C; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:54:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on istud.quis.cx X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (ille [192.168.1.4]) by istud.quis.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C5D39820; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:54:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <483AB2FD.6040404@quis.cx> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 14:54:21 +0200 From: Jille User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gahn References: <596589.42178.qm@web52106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <596589.42178.qm@web52106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: free bsd , freebsd general questions Subject: Re: portupgrade errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 13:13:55 -0000 Try: # portsdb -fu Or updating your portstree (portsnap fetch update) -- Jille gahn schreef: > Hi all: > > trying to upgrade the ports and got errors: > > /////////////////////////// > > beichuan# portupgrade -a > [Rebuilding the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 382 packages found (-0 +382) .............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................. done] > [Updating the portsdb in /usr/ports ... - 18529 port entries found .........1000.........2000.........3000.........4000.........5000.........6000.........7000.........8000.........9000.........10000.........11000.........12000.........13000.........14000.........15000.........16000.........17000.........18000..... ..... done] > [missing key: categories] [Updating the portsdb in /usr/ports ... - 18529 port entries found .........1000.........2000.........3000.........4000.........5000.........6000.........7000.........8000.........9000.........10000.........11000.........12000.........13000.........14000.........15000.........16000.........17000.........18000..... ..... done] > missing key: categories: Cannot read the portsdb! > /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/portsdb.rb:567:in `open_db': database file error (PortsDB::DBError) > from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/portsdb.rb:736:in `port' > from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/portsdb.rb:924:in `all_depends_list' > from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:915:in `tsort_build' > from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:907:in `each' > from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:907:in `tsort_build' > from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:929:in `sort_build' > from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:933:in `sort_build!' > from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:694:in `main' > from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:755:in `initialize' > from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:210:in `new' > from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:210:in `main' > from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:1981 > > /////////////////////////////////// > > were the errors from my side or from the portal side? > > Thanks > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 13:21:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18EB31065671 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 13:21:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from jedburgh.just4dns.com (jedburgh.just4dns.com [78.129.134.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27CA08FC14 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 13:21:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from [86.153.243.228] (helo=movens.plus.com) by jedburgh.just4dns.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K0cd8-0006Jt-Vb for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:20:51 +0100 Received: from [10.10.1.4] (redshift [10.10.1.4]) by postbag.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 051521CC32 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:20:58 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <483AB939.7040607@magichamster.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 14:20:57 +0100 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080524) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 1K0cd8-0006Jt-Vb X-Fuzioned-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-From: parish@magichamster.com X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jedburgh.just4dns.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - magichamster.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Question about installing boot manager in sysinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 13:21:03 -0000 I've got two SCSI drives, da0 and da1. FreeBSD 6.3-STABLE is installed on da0 and da1 currently has Mandriva Linux on it. The boot manager being used is Grub. I now want to replace Linux with FreeBSD 7 but I'm expecting that I may end up with an unbootable system because da0 (6.3) will still have Grub but da1 (7) will have the FreeBSD boot manager. Since Grub uses files in /boot on the Linux partition it won't work as these will have been wiped out. So, I... Run sysinstall On the partition editor screen, select da1, delete the Linux slice, create a new FreeBSD slice, then 'Q' At the bootmanager screen, select the FreeBSD boot manager In the disklabel editor, create the partitions in the slice OK, that's the new disk configured and I'm now back at the Select Disk screen. Do I now select da0 (the existing 6.3) and in the Partition Editor just hit 'Q' without changing anything, then select the FreeBSD boot manager, and finally, in the disk label editor just hit 'Q' again without changing anything - especially the NewFS flag!! Will this install the FreeBSD boot manager on da0 but not touch the existing partition/slice set up - i.e. it won't trash my 6.3 system? I've read the Handbook but the example it gives for 2 disks assumes that you are creating FreeBSD partitions/slices on *both* disks, it doesn't have an example for just adding an existing disk to the boot manager. What makes me nervous about doing this is that the boot manager is installed in the MBR where the partition table lives. The other option I may be able to use is to run boot0cfg(8) on da0 (6.3 system) *before* installing 7 - or maybe run it on both disks and don't select a boot manager during the install. So, what's the best (i.e. safest) way to proceed? Oh, and before anyone says, yes, I *have* backed up all my data ;-) Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 13:44:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B971065675 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 13:44:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net (pih-relay04.plus.net [212.159.14.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407238FC2C for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 13:44:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=milibyte.co.uk) by pih-relay04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1K0d07-00069g-8F for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:44:35 +0100 Received: by milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K0d06-0000Q5-EO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:44:34 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 14:44:34 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200805252122.40636.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200805252122.40636.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200805261444.34278.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: 54d02c576722fe5ad319b62c4a8b8e79 Subject: Re: Non aligned DMA transfer errors with k3b X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 13:44:37 -0000 On Sunday 25 May 2008, I wrote: > Suddenly today all my attempts to burn DVDs with k3b result in a > continuous stream of the following error messages. > > May 25 18:04:40 kestrel kernel: ata1: FAILURE - non aligned DMA > transfer attempted > May 25 18:04:40 kestrel kernel: acd0: setting up DMA failed > > Quiting k3b doesn't stop the flood of errors, reboots hang and the > only solution is to hit the reset switch. > > I'm running 7.0 RELEASE and if I reboot into my 6.3 partition k3b > works just fine, confirming that it's not a media or hardware fault. > I've also replaced the DVD writer but I still get the problem with > 7.0. > > I can burn the same data to the same DVD with growisofs with no > problem which suggests that the problem lies with k3b so this got me > wondering if it was related to the massive portupgrade I did > yesterday (affecting 156 ports) but that seems unlikely because when > portupgrade finished last night I rebooted and burnt that day's > backup to DVD+RW without problem. This morning I burnt 3 DVD+Rs > without problem, then about an hour later the problem suddenly > appeared when I started to burn another DVD+RW, and there'd been > absolutely no software or hardware changes since the previous > successful run. > > Although I don't think upgrading the ports is responsible I've tried > downgrading k3b from 1.0.4_1 to 1.0.4 but that had no effect, nor did > downgrading dvd+rw-tools-7.1 to 7.0. I don't think any of the other > upgraded ports would have been significant. > > Turning off DMA by setting hw.ata.ata_dma and hw.ata.atapi_dma to > zero stops the errors but with a big performance hit so that's not an > option for a permanent fix. > > I've now run out of ideas for what to try next so any suggestions > would be welcome. The mystery thickens although I've found a workaround. It certainly doesn't look like a portupgrade issue, I've temporarily restored both /usr and /usr/local to their state before I ran portupgrade and I still have the problem. The mystery remains as to why the behaviour should have suddenly changed over a period of just a few hours during which there were no known changes to the software or hardware. I've also checked for files in the base system with timestamps more recent than when things were working OK and none of them seem relevant to writing DVDs. I noticed that, by default, k3b tries to create multisession DVDs and that the problem arises when it examines the contents of the DVD before it starts to run growisofs. I don't need multisession DVDs so I've changed the default multisession mode to "No Multisession" and things work OK now. As I said previously, everything works fine when running from my 6.3 partition. I see some error messages which might be relevant when booting 7.0 which don't appear with 6.3: With 7.0 I see: Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle ad0: 152627MB at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: DVDR at ata1-master UDMA33 acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x21 ascq=0x00 GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider acd0 is iso9660/K3b data project. cd0 at ata1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A 1.05> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 33.000MB/s transfers cd0: cd present [2295104 x 2048 byte records] acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x21 ascq=0x00 (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 23 5 3f 0 0 1 0 (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:21,0 (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): Logical block address out of range (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): Unretryable error (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): cddone: got error 0x16 back Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s4a ... while 6.3 is much cleaner with: ad0: 152627MB at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: DVDR at ata1-master UDMA33 Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle cd0 at ata1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A 1.05> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 33.000MB/s transfers cd0: cd present [2295104 x 2048 byte records] Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a The same DVD was in the tray for each boot, how do I fix the error messages? Could the "GEOM_LABEL" line be significant, it's something that crept in when I installed 7.0, perhaps I don't need it, in which case how do I remove it? -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 14:01:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAFF106568A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675AD8FC0C for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:01:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K0dFv-0005dp-3U for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:00:55 +0000 Received: from mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net ([82.237.75.54]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:00:55 +0000 Received: from gilles.ganault by mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:00:55 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Gilles Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:00:45 +0200 Lines: 6 Message-ID: <5kgl34t23q813nh6j0c63r57bukps7066f@4ax.com> References: <1211814470.2614.5.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080526-0, 26/05/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Sender: news Subject: Re: Is it safe to upgrade libraries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 14:01:02 -0000 On Mon, 26 May 2008 17:07:50 +0200, Julien Cigar wrote: >portmaster (or portupgrade) should handle this for you. >don't forget to check /usr/ports/UPDATING before any updates. Thanks for the tip. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 14:05:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B41106564A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:05:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006A38FC16 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:05:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K0dJu-0005rY-Am for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:05:02 +0000 Received: from mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net ([82.237.75.54]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:05:02 +0000 Received: from gilles.ganault by mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:05:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Gilles Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:01:44 +0200 Lines: 6 Message-ID: <7lgl3411mjknissgmvq6778190dmbk0pak@4ax.com> References: <20080526202629.0966b2f8@ayiin> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080526-0, 26/05/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Sender: news Subject: Re: Downloading files from MS Terminal Services server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 14:05:16 -0000 On Mon, 26 May 2008 20:26:29 +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote: > Why don't you log to the TS server and then push the files out to your other machine ? That's already what I'm doing, but I was looking for a way to automate the process so it can be put into a CRON job. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 14:30:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3AAE106567C for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:30:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from thenetnow.com (thenetnow.com [69.90.69.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6A88FC14 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:30:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANT) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1K0dif-000NMX-8n for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 10:30:37 -0400 Message-ID: <2EEC06F1F9B24B31B15CE1DCD095A7C1@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 10:30:35 -0400 Organization: The Net Now MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Subject: Required Directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Grant Peel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 14:30:38 -0000 Hi all, I have several servers that the users home directories contain directories that must exists in order for apache and mail to work correctly. The users have full read write access to thier home directories via ftp. (I am using proftpd as the backend). Is there a way (by using either proftpd, or setting sticky bit, or setting the uimmutable flag), that I can prevent the users from deleting these directories, and still retain the ability for my (root run) scripts to have the ability to delete them? TIA, -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 14:40:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2D4106566C for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:40:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DD58FC17 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:40:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: (qmail 928 invoked from network); 26 May 2008 14:40:51 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO chuckr.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 26 May 2008 14:40:50 -0000 Message-ID: <483ACA16.6060101@telenix.org> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 10:32:54 -0400 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Ovens References: <4839ADF8.7090805@telenix.org> <483A3F52.9040907@magichamster.com> In-Reply-To: <483A3F52.9040907@magichamster.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=F3DCA0E9; url=http://pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stick memory USB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 14:40:52 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mark Ovens wrote: > Chuck Robey wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> nej ALL wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm new on FreeBSD not on unix. >>> >>> I want to mount automatically an usb-stick memory into my machine ? >>> I get some problems. >>> >>> Need help. >> >> You're trying with your devfs stuff to create the file, but you have >> to realize >> it's a device representing a filesystem, not just a file. What you >> want to read >> is the mount and fstab man pages, mount to find out how to mount your >> memory >> stick, and fstab to figure out how to get it to happen automatically. >> The devfs >> stuff is all mistaken, I think, you want that when you want to change >> permissions or make softlinks of devices, not to create them in the >> first place, >> least that's how I';'ve always used it, and I know very well that the >> correct >> line in /etc/fstab WILL automount your memory stick. >> > > Are you sure Chuck? The devfs rules stuff is to allow non-root users to > mount removable media isn't it? I followed the instructions at > http://gphoto.sourceforge.net/doc/manual/permissions-usb.html - the > FreeBSD-specific stuff is near the bottom of the page - but I have > *exactly* the same problem as the OP with my mobile phone. > > It is detected as da2 and da3 (phone and memory stick - mine's a SCSI > system so da0 and da1 are the HDDs) but only the top-level device nodes > (/dev/da[23]) are created. > > I can try to mount /dev/da3 until I'm blue in the face and it always > fails but as soon as I attempt to mount /dev/da3s1 it fails first time > but succeeds the second time because the /dev/da3s1 device node gets > created on the first (failed) mount attempt. > > It doesn't matter whether I have an entry in /etc/fstab for /dev/da3s1 > or not, it stills fails, but creates the device, on the first attempt. > > Maybe something has changed? The page I linked to above refers to > FreeBSD 5 but I'm running 6.3-STABLE. > Well, the correct method to use to mount any filesystem is to use fstab, that's precisely what it was created for. Going further than that (knowing that devfs is not the normal way to automate mounting of FSs) isn't something I've experimented with lately, so I mistrust my knowledge. What I do know is that the system needs to know the type of filesystem created on the hardware before it can possibly create those disk subentries, irregardless of any devfs entry. Fstab is specifically set up to give that info to the system (via options on a mount call) and you can also, using standard mount options, arrange not only to inform the system of the FStype, but also to do it automatically if you ask for, and even to do it as a non-root user (again, it's not a default behavior, but mount can be optioned to do this). I couldn't tell you that devfs couldn't be twisted to do what you're asking, but I can tell you that fstab *was* created *specifically* to schedule & automate all common mount operations. As for devfs, I would normally expect you to use it to change the permissions or ownership of disk files. I couldn't tell you what's possible, but I can tell you how it was designed. If you think about it, all these disk items have needed to be done since the very first Unix, but devfs is a relative newcomer to Unix. It's a slick idea, one that caused gigantic flamewars over how to automate things like device permissions, when the basic idea of a device filesystem was being created in FreeBSD. That's the reason that on my system both devfs and devd exist, both do the same main job, with a only a different take on the problems. However, they were both created with the notion of how to control a device filesystem, not to automate disk mounts. I should admit before I quit this email that I didn't read the first mail entirely to the end, so I missed correctly reading the initial poster's real problem. In embarrassment, I did read this to the end, that's why I'm being clear about not really knowing devfs nearly as well as I know fstab (I've never seen any Unix without a fstab, so knowing hos it works is very important to knowing how to react to many basic disk emergencies, just something you REALLY ought to learn. > Regards, > > Mark > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIOsoWz62J6PPcoOkRAhzDAJ9Jbpx/Nrl0Ydr1JlPIR1NPpcX0lQCdFWuw Z8WMpERVFzcVnEUq6dzegng= =5rVD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 15:04:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A9A106567B for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 15:04:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from albert.bowen@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499ED8FC0C for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 15:04:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from albert.bowen@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so461481ana.13 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 08:04:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Oyr4ePagQLGwXDjP3u1gWgT8kw5FWFH9O3npS2kaSzA=; b=YQ06Zqj8hsVi+Fy7iJW52186QarnowHPNSaBSv1GqZckA0eGcgQ63Guk0NoMox+bvTn6QQASgRILTP0YkgL+a95JieNkOUE0k6aoUW415Mh7WSJpCj8yVqQ7a4tR55RGuqIryl3zhEbBMFK+NtBrcwxzNqDLHLjTvvLuhFI7xqA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KZe3hlqWFwRHuGASxjeE3Ul6cbMivZ6EtTRKediM+YaTIEo/rrndBWvN+BwIBLaESB59oRrqTMY7ln2niMK33pDK2UM4L06Rhon2bw2VzMwao/8/JURzuftoSps7IUfsKgcSgJIMATf80d4/5UDW7qrYRIKdH3PHsFfLTMYZ6JM= Received: by 10.100.140.1 with SMTP id n1mr241569and.32.1211814277471; Mon, 26 May 2008 08:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.13.10 with HTTP; Mon, 26 May 2008 08:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 23:04:37 +0800 From: "Xiaobo Zhu" To: "Christer Hermansson" In-Reply-To: <4826EC5A.8000203@chdevelopment.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4826330F.3020005@chdevelopment.se> <4826EC5A.8000203@chdevelopment.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to config ipv6 for this instance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 15:04:38 -0000 Hi, After a long time of study, I make things clear on my mind and finally get ipv6 works on my FreeBSD, as well as linux platform. The configuration itself isn't to diffcult once you know it, but the long term of study is quite an unforgetable experience, So I'm glad to share it with you so that time can be saved if you just want to get ipv6 worked, instead of get deep into ipv6. If you have any suggestions or questions, feel free to contact subert.zhu# gmail.com. Any feedbacks are welcome The following step show how to configuration ipv6 on the top of ipv4. ==========Configuration for FreeBSD========= // Create an virtula interface named gif0 #ifconfig gif0 create // Specify the two end points of the tunnel, using ipv4 address. The first( 219.224.30.80 in this example) is the ipv4 address of your desktop, and the second address(202.112.95.129 in this example) is the ipv4 address of the remote server. #ifconfig gif0 tunnel 219.224.30.80 202.112.95.129 // Specify the two end points of the tunnel, using ipv6 address. The first is the address of your desktop, and the second is the address of the server. Prefixlen 128 means the tunnel is host to host. #ifconfig gif0 inet6 2001:da8:207:1:0:5efe:219.224.30.802001:da8:207:1:0:5efe: 202.112.95.129 prefixlen 128 // Add default ipv6 router to the host #route -n add -inet6 default 2001:da8:207:1:0:5efe:202.112.95.129 // Bring the interface gif0 up #ifconfig gif0 up // Check if the configuration is correct. #ping6 www.kame.net // If you want to make it automatically configured every time boot up, add the following lines to /etc/rc.conf ipv6_enable="YES" ipv6_defaultrouter="2001:da8:207:1:0:5efe:202.112.95.129" gif_interfaces="gif0" gifconfig_gif0="219.224.30.80 202.112.95.129" ipv6_ifconfig_gif0="2001:da8:207:1:0:5efe:219.224.30.802001:da8:207:1:0:5efe: 202.112.95.129 prefixlen 128" ==========Configuration for Linux========= // The following has only been tested on CentOS 5, but it should works on other linux distributions. // Please be aware that the ipv4 address is 172.16.120.226, instead of 219.224.30.80, I know you won't be confused. It is just on another computer. :) // Creat a ipv6-in-ipv4 tunnel named sit1, and specify the router's ipv4 address(202.112.95.129), as well as the client ipv4 add(172.16.120.226) # ip tunnel add sit1 mode sit remote 202.112.95.129 local 172.16.120.226 // Active the tunnel sit1 # ifconfig sit1 up // Asign ipv6 address to sit1 # ifconfig sit1 add 2001:da8:207:1:0:5efe:172.16.120.226/64 // Specify the default router # ip route add ::/0 via 2001:da8:207:1:0:5efe:ca70:5f81 metric 1 // Check if the configuration is correctly. # ping6 www.kame.net PING www.kame.net(orange.kame.net) 56 data bytes 64 bytes from orange.kame.net: icmp_seq=0 ttl=52 time=90.3 ms 64 bytes from orange.kame.net: icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=90.3 ms --- www.kame.net ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 1000ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 90.340/90.364/90.389/0.301 ms, pipe 2 // If you wants to make ipv6 work every time you boot your linux, just add the same command to /etc/rc.local. As follows: # echo "ip tunnel add sit1 mode sit remote 202.112.95.129 local 172.16.120.226" >> /etc/rc.local # echo "ifconfig sit1 up" >> /etc/rc.local # echo "ifconfig sit1 add 2001:da8:207:1:0:5efe:172.16.120.226/64" >> /etc/rc.local # echo "ip route add ::/0 via 2001:da8:207:1:0:5efe:ca70:5f81 metric 1" >> /etc/rc.local good luck! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 15:44:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B784A106566B for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 15:44:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690188FC1C for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 15:44:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4QFiKAQ055989; Mon, 26 May 2008 10:44:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Pa6Za1szHhxg; Mon, 26 May 2008 10:44:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (dsl.daleco.biz [209.125.108.70]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4QFiEDL055984; Mon, 26 May 2008 10:44:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <483ADAC9.8030407@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 10:44:09 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20080213 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gilles References: <20080526202629.0966b2f8@ayiin> <7lgl3411mjknissgmvq6778190dmbk0pak@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <7lgl3411mjknissgmvq6778190dmbk0pak@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Downloading files from MS Terminal Services server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 15:44:26 -0000 Gilles wrote: > On Mon, 26 May 2008 20:26:29 +1000, Norberto Meijome > wrote: >> Why don't you log to the TS server and then push the files out to your other machine ? > > That's already what I'm doing, but I was looking for a way to automate > the process so it can be put into a CRON job. To keep thinking on the "other side of the street", maybe there's an available Windows utility? For example, SAMBA on the FBSD box, "mapped drive" in your Windows box, and a short batch script to copy the files run via the "Task Scheduler"? In reverse, FBSD can mount SMB shares, so you might go that way, assuming at least one is available on the Winbox? Just a thought, Kevin D. Kinsey -- The grass is always greener on the other side of your sunglasses. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 15:58:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76198106566B for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 15:58:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8EB8FC0C for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 15:58:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K0f5L-0003YR-6X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 15:58:07 +0000 Received: from mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net ([82.237.75.54]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 15:58:07 +0000 Received: from gilles.ganault by mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 15:58:07 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Gilles Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 17:57:59 +0200 Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <20080526202629.0966b2f8@ayiin> <7lgl3411mjknissgmvq6778190dmbk0pak@4ax.com> <483ADAC9.8030407@daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080526-0, 26/05/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Sender: news Subject: Re: Downloading files from MS Terminal Services server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 15:58:10 -0000 On Mon, 26 May 2008 10:44:09 -0500, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > For example, SAMBA on the FBSD box, "mapped drive" in your Windows box, and > a short batch script to copy the files run via the "Task Scheduler"? Mmm... yes, I could check with admins whether I can add a script to the TS to push data to a remote FTP server. > In reverse, FBSD can mount SMB shares, so you might go that way, > assuming at least one is available on the Winbox? Sorry, forgot to say the Windows server is behind a firewall and I'm accessing it remotely from the Net, so NetBIOS ports are closed. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 15:58:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314191065679 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 15:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from albert.bowen@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE2D98FC1A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 15:58:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from albert.bowen@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so1056020wra.13 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 08:58:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=4JvZWD0lvyEI/ICA5+Ga665HuyP51XI5JDsaLsce/Fw=; b=DgAkx7xoLAUPbrejMfMp7aaf2FWjUDUOdojSuzrqOKlp44PHDvGtOHv7AIksM3U0A9g8phyO3wXKWhb+6DU3FJPuRy0XSx9MwLtmCku8GRXc2atSpXOaUPBf0MrvhER6w7LNjiOl8YK9RohzFVq4IUj+CwyHKM36vvoTQWhSXzY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=oMTSFeb8ydZBF9aOybiToAdZwE8IS3vSSJV+rmxnCwBY4WkE31mekPqtnMImbW6WXDRr/ztZnbhBqJ65d7RuoEH1NOUGgI6S+I1LWjBUR94kIozX92WPtMypqq37LSlSe+VJHKr7Pxus1rz9afv4rbc+Yxa0Hz7/jKCYtLDB4dY= Received: by 10.100.41.9 with SMTP id o9mr300749ano.84.1211817523740; Mon, 26 May 2008 08:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.13.10 with HTTP; Mon, 26 May 2008 08:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 23:58:43 +0800 From: "Xiaobo Zhu" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Is there any cvsup site support ipv6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 15:58:45 -0000 Hi, would any one please tell me is there any cvsup site support ipv6, and sites close to china are more preferred. Many thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 16:01:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7835A106566C for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 16:01:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B348FC20 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 16:01:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 31so37476yxl.13 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 09:01:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6yvBgmCc3T0LQXgWy0c/ihOPowpo8GiYk7HeGdMDIGw=; b=TeHsNMDlflfeECzeGvX1AFDAAnqiW+cFFhAUUIZTAamiIxsBFmaC8FWd1dVz48sQ/Q+Nk4FFTclSLtKq+auVIO8KKYvQLCgh+jx81G2d6PQpsFehPcKOfsUNmgTYCbOdxZfR47LEPHviGM8VvvbUl0fqPThGOjIetyRDbPHrJQY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=tjIYSxCLGeAEHE2IIbfuY4a+9rlugcjym3ut6XOvk9h0GDLyivDkD6GH8tO4C4/au85UdaeJkDQugzTadK5rZ8bJ3ANaWP0AIDtR009HydOLgJWYbMs1DpL02j+h0fplvrkY/jXZYllnCShMIAqE7tyTr8FkaFRJmrO01EMgeBU= Received: by 10.150.73.41 with SMTP id v41mr1156125yba.187.1211817697349; Mon, 26 May 2008 09:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.4.140? ( [76.113.34.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm53548yxs.5.2008.05.26.09.01.35 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 26 May 2008 09:01:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Judd To: Gilles In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 10:01:36 -0600 Message-Id: <1211817696.1154.3.camel@t60.local.zz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is it safe to upgrade libraries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:01:38 -0000 On Mon, 2008-05-26 at 14:47 +0200, Gilles wrote: > Hello > > When running "'pkg_version -v", I notice that some libraries are out > of date, such as the most important glib: > > glib-2.14.6 < needs updating (port has > 2.16.3) > > Before I go ahead and run "cd /usr/ports/devel/glib20 ; make ; make > install", I'd like to check what the recommended way is to upgrade > critical applications like this? > > As I connect remotely through SSH, I wouldn't want to break this box > and have to drive to the location because it won't run after the > upgrade. > > Thank you. > I think of it this way -- since ssh is part of base -- which doesn't need your glib to run -- connecting by ssh to upgrade that should be fine, since you're not changing something that's "in-use". Second of all, after you actually connect to a ssh session, the session you're using has the program and libraries in ram, and you can swap out anything you want while you stay connected. Programs that use the affected library should be restarted for changes to take effect. I have no hesitation that upgrading PORTS/PACKAGES over ssh will cause problems. You might need to restart some services (think of a nss or pam plugin that alows you to authenticate over say LDAP or samba or SQL). I have more hesitation when I do a system upgrade than when I upgrade ports/packages. Hope this helps. --Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 16:03:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8811065672 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 16:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15448FC17 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 16:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0CD85D17; Mon, 26 May 2008 12:03:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b7L3ymBeN95W; Mon, 26 May 2008 12:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.152.145.134] (72-165-115-225.dia.static.qwest.net [72.165.115.225]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9AE2F5CFB; Mon, 26 May 2008 12:03:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Swiger To: Grant Peel In-Reply-To: <2EEC06F1F9B24B31B15CE1DCD095A7C1@GRANT> X-Priority: 3 References: <2EEC06F1F9B24B31B15CE1DCD095A7C1@GRANT> Message-Id: <369C3C67-9A6F-419A-AA25-FA62D8FD3425@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 09:03:29 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Required Directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:03:35 -0000 On May 26, 2008, at 7:30 AM, Grant Peel wrote: > I have several servers that the users home directories contain > directories that must exists in order for apache and mail to work > correctly. > [ ... ] > Is there a way (by using either proftpd, or setting sticky bit, or > setting the uimmutable flag), that I can prevent the users from > deleting these directories, and still retain the ability for my > (root run) scripts to have the ability to delete them? I think that if you make the directories immutable, the users won't be able to create new files under them. Using root-owned directories which have 1777 permissions would be workable, except that other users could create files under someone else's homedir, also. It's generally not expected that users would not own the stuff under their homedir, or would not be able to delete their files if they want to, even if doing so would break something. Normally, sysadmins code their scripts to re-create any missing directory hierarchy if needed, so that if a user manages to shoot themselves in the foot, the cron jobs will be able to provide first aid. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 16:11:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EADF106566B for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 16:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9B08FC28 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 16:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F29875D1A; Mon, 26 May 2008 12:11:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bpJMNLRGAZFN; Mon, 26 May 2008 12:11:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.152.145.134] (72-165-115-225.dia.static.qwest.net [72.165.115.225]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 65D6A5D17; Mon, 26 May 2008 12:11:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <15B2305D-CE3E-43DE-A338-F4031380295F@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Xiaobo Zhu In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 09:11:51 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there any cvsup site support ipv6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:11:56 -0000 On May 26, 2008, at 8:58 AM, Xiaobo Zhu wrote: > would any one please tell me is there any cvsup site support ipv6, > and sites > close to china are more preferred. I'm not sure why one would prefer IPv6 only, but yes: % dig -t aaaa cvsup5.cn.freebsd.org ; <<>> DiG 9.4.1-P1 <<>> -t aaaa cvsup5.cn.freebsd.org ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 1524 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;cvsup5.cn.freebsd.org. IN AAAA ;; ANSWER SECTION: cvsup5.cn.freebsd.org. 0 IN CNAME cvsup-master.cn.freebsd.org. cvsup-master.cn.freebsd.org. 0 IN CNAME tarsier.delphij.net. tarsier.delphij.net. 86400 IN AAAA 2001:470:1f03:2c9::2 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: delphij.net. 86387 IN NS ns-bj.delphij.net. delphij.net. 86387 IN NS ns-tw.delphij.net. delphij.net. 86387 IN NS ns-sh.delphij.net. ;; Query time: 205 msec ;; SERVER: 205.171.3.65#53(205.171.3.65) ;; WHEN: Mon May 26 09:06:25 2008 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 187 You might find the sysutils/fastest_cvsup port helpful... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 16:12:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6631C1065685 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 16:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845328FC0A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 16:12:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B49FD06A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:01:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DB4FD061 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:01:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <483ADEA1.40206@webrz.net> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:00:33 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Subject: Kernel for Dual Core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:12:36 -0000 I have just subscribed to this mailinglist, so I do hope you forgive me if I ask a redundant question about recompiling my Kernel; Hardware: Dell OptiPlex 755 System is up and running (limping on one core, but hey, I should begin somewhere :-) For checking wheter my hardware would fit for SMP Kernel I did a triton# /usr/sbin/mptable =============================================================================== MPTable ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MP Floating Pointer Structure: location: BIOS physical address: 0x000fe710 signature: '_MP_' length: 16 bytes version: 1.4 checksum: 0x91 mode: Virtual Wire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MP Config Table Header: physical address: 0x000f0000 signature: 'PCMP' base table length: 692 version: 1.4 checksum: 0x45 OEM ID: 'DELL ' Product ID: 'Opti 755 ' OEM table pointer: 0x00000000 OEM table size: 0 entry count: 78 local APIC address: 0xfee00000 extended table length: 0 extended table checksum: 0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MP Config Base Table Entries: -- Processors: APIC ID Version State Family Model Step Flags 0 0x14 BSP, usable 6 15 13 0xbfebfbff 1 0x14 AP, usable 6 15 13 0xbfebfbff -- Bus: Bus ID Type 0 PCI 1 PCI 2 PCI 3 PCI 4 ISA -- I/O APICs: APIC ID Version State Address 8 0x20 usable 0xfec00000 -- I/O Ints: Type Polarity Trigger Bus ID IRQ APIC ID PIN# ExtINT active-hi edge 4 0 8 0 INT conforms conforms 4 1 8 1 INT conforms conforms 4 0 8 2 INT conforms conforms 4 3 8 3 INT conforms conforms 4 4 8 4 INT conforms conforms 4 5 8 5 INT conforms conforms 4 6 8 6 INT conforms conforms 4 7 8 7 INT conforms conforms 4 8 8 8 INT conforms conforms 4 9 8 9 INT conforms conforms 4 10 8 10 INT conforms conforms 4 11 8 11 INT conforms conforms 4 12 8 12 INT conforms conforms 4 14 8 14 INT conforms conforms 4 15 8 15 INT conforms conforms 0 1:A 8 16 INT conforms conforms 0 1:B 8 17 INT conforms conforms 0 1:C 8 18 INT conforms conforms 0 1:D 8 19 INT conforms conforms 0 2:A 8 16 INT conforms conforms 0 2:B 8 17 INT conforms conforms 0 2:C 8 18 INT conforms conforms 0 2:D 8 19 INT conforms conforms 0 3:A 8 16 INT conforms conforms 0 3:B 8 17 INT conforms conforms 0 3:C 8 18 INT conforms conforms 0 3:D 8 19 INT conforms conforms 0 26:A 8 16 INT conforms conforms 0 26:B 8 17 INT conforms conforms 0 26:C 8 22 INT conforms conforms 0 26:D 8 19 INT conforms conforms 0 27:A 8 16 INT conforms conforms 0 28:A 8 16 INT conforms conforms 0 28:B 8 17 INT conforms conforms 0 28:C 8 18 INT conforms conforms 0 28:D 8 19 INT conforms conforms 0 29:A 8 23 INT conforms conforms 0 29:B 8 17 INT conforms conforms 0 29:C 8 18 INT conforms conforms 0 29:D 8 19 INT conforms conforms 0 31:A 8 16 INT conforms conforms 0 31:B 8 17 INT conforms conforms 0 31:C 8 18 INT conforms conforms 1 0:A 8 16 INT conforms conforms 1 0:B 8 17 INT conforms conforms 1 0:C 8 18 INT conforms conforms 1 0:D 8 19 INT conforms conforms 0 25:A 8 21 INT conforms conforms 2 0:A 8 16 INT conforms conforms 2 0:B 8 17 INT conforms conforms 2 0:C 8 18 INT conforms conforms 2 0:D 8 19 INT conforms conforms 3 1:A 8 17 INT conforms conforms 3 1:B 8 18 INT conforms conforms 3 1:C 8 19 INT conforms conforms 3 1:D 8 16 INT conforms conforms 3 0:A 8 16 INT conforms conforms 3 0:B 8 17 INT conforms conforms 3 0:C 8 18 INT conforms conforms 3 0:D 8 19 INT conforms conforms 3 2:A 8 18 INT conforms conforms 3 2:B 8 19 INT conforms conforms 3 2:C 8 16 INT conforms conforms 3 2:D 8 17 INT conforms conforms 3 3:A 8 19 INT conforms conforms 3 3:B 8 16 INT conforms conforms 3 3:C 8 17 INT conforms conforms 3 3:D 8 18 -- Local Ints: Type Polarity Trigger Bus ID IRQ APIC ID PIN# ExtINT active-hi edge 4 0 255 0 NMI active-hi edge 4 0 255 1 -- cut -- So far so good K-) After this I made an SMP Kernel, based on GENERIC: # # MYNEWKERNEL cpu I686_CPU ident MYNEWKERNEL options SCHED_4BSD options PREEMPTION options INET #options INET6 #options SCTP options FFS options SOFTUPDATES options UFS_ACL options UFS_DIRHASH #options UFS_GJOURNAL options MD_ROOT options NFSCLIENT options NFSSERVER #options NFSLOCKD options NFS_ROOT options MSDOSFS options CD9660 options PROCFS options PSEUDOFS options GEOM_PART_GPT #options GEOM_LABEL options COMPAT_43TTY options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 options COMPAT_FREEBSD6 options SCSI_DELAY=5000 options KTRACE options STACK options SYSVSHM options SYSVMSG options SYSVSEM options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV options ADAPTIVE_GIANT options STOP_NMI options AUDIT # SMP kernel options SMP device apic # CPU frequency control device cpufreq # Bus support. device eisa device pci # Floppy drives #device fdc # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk device ataraid device atapicd device atapifd device atapist options ATA_STATIC_ID # SCSI Controllers device ahb device ahc options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT device ahd options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT device amd device hptiop device isp #device ispfw device mpt #device ncr device sym device trm device adv device adw device aha device aic device bt device ncv device nsp device stg # SCSI peripherals device scbus device ch device da device sa device cd device pass device ses # RAID controllers SCSI subsystem device amr device arcmsr device asr device ciss device dpt device hptmv device hptrr device iir device ips device mly device twa # RAID controllers device aac device aacp device ida device mfi device mlx device pst device twe # atkbdc0 controls keyboard PS/2 mouse device atkbdc device atkbd device psm device kbdmux device vga device splash # syscons is the default console driver device sc device agp # Power management support #device apm # Add suspend/resume support for the i8254. device pmtimer # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support # PCMCIA and cardbus bridge support device cbb device pccard device cardbus # Serial (COM) ports device sio device uart # Parallel port device ppc device ppbus device lpt device plip device ppi #device vpo #device puc # PCI Ethernet NICs. device de device em device ixgb device le device txp device vx # PCI Ethernet NICs - common MII bus controller code. device miibus device bce device bfe device bge device dc device fxp device lge device msk device nfe device nge #device nve device pcn device re device rl device sf device sis device sk device ste device stge device ti device tl device tx device vge device vr device wb device xl # ISA Ethernet NICs. pccard NICs included. device cs device ed device ex device ep device fe device ie device sn device xe # Wireless NIC cards device wlan device wlan_wep device wlan_ccmp device wlan_tkip device wlan_amrr device wlan_scan_ap device wlan_scan_sta device an device ath device ath_hal device ath_rate_sample device awi device ral device wi #device wl # Pseudo devices. device loop device random device ether device sl device ppp device tun device pty device md device gif device faith device firmware device bpf # USB support device uhci device ohci device ehci device usb #device udbp device ugen device uhid device ukbd device ulpt device umass device ums device ural device rum device urio device uscanner # USB Serial devices device ucom device uark device ubsa device ubser device uftdi device uipaq device uplcom device uslcom device uvisor device uvscom # USB Ethernet, requires miibus device aue device axe device cdce device cue device kue device rue # FireWire support device firewire device sbp device fwe device fwip device dcons device dcons_crom -- cut -- My question is now: would this be oke to compile a new Kernel for my dual core based processor? Thanks for sharing, --Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 16:21:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C2D1065676 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 16:21:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net (ptb-relay02.plus.net [212.159.14.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581FC8FC0A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 16:21:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=milibyte.co.uk) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1K0fRT-0002WI-Bl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 17:20:59 +0100 Received: by milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K0fRS-0000e3-GX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 17:20:58 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 17:20:58 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <483AB939.7040607@magichamster.com> In-Reply-To: <483AB939.7040607@magichamster.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200805261720.58431.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: 62393f3bb54a241fd7702c60dc32d13c Subject: Re: Question about installing boot manager in sysinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:21:01 -0000 On Monday 26 May 2008, Mark Ovens wrote: > I've got two SCSI drives, da0 and da1. FreeBSD 6.3-STABLE is > installed on da0 and da1 currently has Mandriva Linux on it. The boot > manager being used is Grub. > > I now want to replace Linux with FreeBSD 7 but I'm expecting that I > may end up with an unbootable system because da0 (6.3) will still > have Grub but da1 (7) will have the FreeBSD boot manager. Since Grub > uses files in /boot on the Linux partition it won't work as these > will have been wiped out. [snip] > So, what's the best (i.e. safest) way to proceed? > > Oh, and before anyone says, yes, I *have* backed up all my data ;-) Well if you're already familiar and happy with grub installed on your linux system why not install grub from ports and continue to use it. Install it into 6.3 before you replace linux with 7.0 and add extra commands to menu.lst ready to boot 7.0 from da1. Then when you install 7.0 just tell sysinstall not to install a boot manager. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 16:29:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F270106567C for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 16:29:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from jedburgh.just4dns.com (jedburgh.just4dns.com [78.129.134.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D768FC18 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 16:29:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from [86.153.243.228] (helo=movens.plus.com) by jedburgh.just4dns.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K0fZq-0003gc-Tc for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 17:29:39 +0100 Received: from [10.10.1.4] (redshift [10.10.1.4]) by postbag.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A111CC32 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 17:29:48 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <483AE57B.2000106@magichamster.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 17:29:47 +0100 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080524) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483ADEA1.40206@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: <483ADEA1.40206@webrz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 1K0fZq-0003gc-Tc X-Fuzioned-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-From: parish@magichamster.com X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jedburgh.just4dns.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - magichamster.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: Kernel for Dual Core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:29:59 -0000 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > I have just subscribed to this mailinglist, so I do hope you forgive me > if I ask a redundant question about recompiling my Kernel; > > Hardware: Dell OptiPlex 755 > System is up and running (limping on one core, but hey, I should begin > somewhere :-) > > > For checking wheter my hardware would fit for SMP Kernel I did a > > triton# /usr/sbin/mptable > What version of FreeBSD? IIRC, in 7.0 GENERIC is SMP-enabled by default? As for your kernel config file you should remove/comment out anything you don't have, e.g. wireless LAN, EISA, USB NICs, RAID, SCSI etc. - although be aware that USB Mass Storage devices are handled as SCSI so if you use any of those I'd leave everything in the SCSI Peripherals section and just remove the SCSI Controllers. When you've built and installed your kernel the old one is saved in /boot/kernel.old so you can revert to it if needs be. It might be wise to rename kernel.old to kernel.GENERIC. as if you build another kernel your first one will become kernel.old and you'll lose the GENERIC one. I add the FBSD version number too so when you upgrade you don't run the risk of booting a kernel from a previous version - which can sometimes cause *serious* grief if the kernel and userland don't match. Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 16:31:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF941065675 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 16:31:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from jedburgh.just4dns.com (jedburgh.just4dns.com [78.129.134.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F2A8FC14 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 16:31:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from [86.153.243.228] (helo=movens.plus.com) by jedburgh.just4dns.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K0fbB-0003pk-5O for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 17:31:01 +0100 Received: from [10.10.1.4] (redshift [10.10.1.4]) by postbag.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9DA1CC32 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 17:31:11 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <483AE5CD.6080000@magichamster.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 17:31:09 +0100 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080524) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483AB939.7040607@magichamster.com> <200805261720.58431.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200805261720.58431.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 1K0fbB-0003pk-5O X-Fuzioned-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-From: parish@magichamster.com X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jedburgh.just4dns.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - magichamster.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: Question about installing boot manager in sysinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:31:24 -0000 Mike Clarke wrote: > Well if you're already familiar and happy with grub installed on your > linux system why not install grub from ports and continue to use it. > Install it into 6.3 before you replace linux with 7.0 and add extra > commands to menu.lst ready to boot 7.0 from da1. Then when you install > 7.0 just tell sysinstall not to install a boot manager. > Duh! Now why didn't I think of that? Thanks Mike, I'll do that. Cheers, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 16:34:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C781065676 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 16:34:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaek@mail.ru) Received: from big.innet.yaroslavl.su (big.innet.yaroslavl.su [217.15.134.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708AA8FC0A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 16:33:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaek@mail.ru) Received: from relay.innet.yaroslavl.su (relay.innet.yaroslavl.su [217.15.134.70]) by big.innet.yaroslavl.su (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4QAnjNU008902 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:49:45 +0400 (MSD) Received: from reaper.yaroslavl.ru (reaper.yaroslavl.ru [85.113.195.205]) by relay.innet.yaroslavl.su (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4QAnjB2053789 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:49:45 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from michaek@mail.ru) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.0.56]) by reaper.yaroslavl.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3AF7228F9 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:49:42 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <483A95C7.9090805@mail.ru> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 14:49:43 +0400 From: Michael Lednev User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: strange ps behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:34:00 -0000 Hello. Can anyone explain such behaviour? # pgrep radiusd 1105 33738 # ps ax | grep radiusd 1105 ?? Ss 2:35,76 /usr/local/sbin/radiusd # ps 33738 PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND Am I missing something? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 16:53:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F831065672 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 16:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA388FC12 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 16:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44AB0FD06A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:54:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5ADFD061 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:54:31 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <483AEB21.4070100@webrz.net> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:53:53 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483ADEA1.40206@webrz.net> <483AE57B.2000106@magichamster.com> In-Reply-To: <483AE57B.2000106@magichamster.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Subject: Re: Kernel for Dual Core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:53:55 -0000 Mark Ovens wrote: > What version of FreeBSD? IIRC, in 7.0 GENERIC is SMP-enabled by default? Yep, it is... > As for your kernel config file you should remove/comment out anything > you don't have, e.g. wireless LAN, EISA, USB NICs, RAID, SCSI etc. - > although be aware that USB Mass Storage devices are handled as SCSI so > if you use any of those I'd leave everything in the SCSI Peripherals > section and just remove the SCSI Controllers. What I don't understand: if you do a cdrom install of FreeBSD, the Kernel is based on GENERIC. If I look in GENERIC, most items are not hashed out and there are parts of them that my hardware does not use. And still it works. Why then not use the 7.0 GENERIC for my dual core system? just thinking, Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 16:54:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10F1106568C for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 16:54:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from heka.cenkes.org (heka.cenkes.org [208.79.80.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867228FC22 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 16:54:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from amilo.cenkes.org (ppp85-140-151-10.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [85.140.151.10]) (Authenticated sender: sat) by heka.cenkes.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 117F4242F843; Mon, 26 May 2008 20:54:07 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 20:54:05 +0400 From: Andrew Pantyukhin To: Chuck Swiger Message-ID: <20080526165403.GT92161@amilo.cenkes.org> References: <2EEC06F1F9B24B31B15CE1DCD095A7C1@GRANT> <369C3C67-9A6F-419A-AA25-FA62D8FD3425@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <369C3C67-9A6F-419A-AA25-FA62D8FD3425@mac.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: Grant Peel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Required Directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: infofarmer@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:54:09 -0000 On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 09:03:29AM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On May 26, 2008, at 7:30 AM, Grant Peel wrote: >> I have several servers that the users home directories contain directories >> that must exists in order for apache and mail to work correctly. >> [ ... ] >> Is there a way (by using either proftpd, or setting sticky bit, or setting >> the uimmutable flag), that I can prevent the users from deleting these >> directories, and still retain the ability for my (root run) scripts to >> have the ability to delete them? In the hosting environment I manage, I use UFS flags extensively. Checkout chflags(1) manpage, schg and sunlnk flags in particular. > It's generally not expected that users would not own the stuff > under their homedir, or would not be able to delete their files > if they want to, even if doing so would break something. > Normally, sysadmins code their scripts to re-create any missing > directory hierarchy if needed, so that if a user manages to > shoot themselves in the foot, the cron jobs will be able to > provide first aid. I don't know what kind of sysadmins you're talking about, but, say, if a hoster did not support files with non-ascii names, but let me upload them and then just remove them automatically, I would not be happy. Preventive policies work better for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 17:02:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD18106564A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 17:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73CEF8FC0A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 17:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1265835ywe.13 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 10:02:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=1M2vjGXp53hsuQOYe3eogv248Zsnr2AudoGNh7FonDk=; b=pCbSAFtB/dQRVKQeytRV8Fo7ZEPLi+9IrYZ0WTO9Wq8o6xq6poudS4yb9ViPpPTY/1hxzfXIRbWW7eRz68BtQblpMZzT46He4+NmUcQihX7KxpSity5lL7YPz/3yjwEyhqVL0SWGJlua8MikGKBax6742FpG7BwITPRE3TzTO6g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=CQmbVBKIKEdFtebQ14wm6jR+DuQdXtWBwVbaF4IGajdoZNKW+U+G76INWj5d+jNKaf1Fr6a3LKeV2B+N7EUCcBgwJJttsg6jgMySdg9E65+Y+IASV57Sl3bFio3eBgEKBB0rm5Xcd0XYYPITy1lEUXnP76riZTyOvcu0a4o11Mw= Received: by 10.114.195.19 with SMTP id s19mr241318waf.58.1211821345085; Mon, 26 May 2008 10:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.150.14 with HTTP; Mon, 26 May 2008 10:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20805261002x3a875b36s88dc1ea4b38bca87@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 13:02:25 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: ntpd - I'm sure I'm setting it up wrong, but I can't figure out how. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 17:02:35 -0000 I'm trying to run ntpd to auto-update my computer's time (since I'm not supposed to use ntpdate). /etc/ntp.conf (I've tried without the restrict line): ======================================== server sushi.lyon.edu restrict default ignore driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift ======================================== I can get ntpdate to work fine with this command: $ sudo ntpdate sushi.lyon.edu I have tried this command (with and without the -g), with no success. If I don't have an /etc/ntp.conf, it complains, and it stops complaining when I put /etc/ntp.conf back where it belongs: $ sudo /usr/sbin/ntpd -q -g -f /var/db/ntpd.drift -l /var/log/ntpd.log The contents of /var/log/ntpd.log: ======================================== 26 May 11:46:43 ntpd[16353]: logging to file /var/log/ntpd.log 26 May 11:46:43 ntpd[16353]: ntpd 4.2.0-a Mon May 12 20:39:20 EDT 2008 (1) 26 May 11:46:43 ntpd[16353]: precision = 1.676 usec 26 May 11:46:43 ntpd[16353]: kernel time sync status 2040 26 May 11:47:04 ntpd[16353]: no reply; clock not set ======================================== To verify from the man page -q update MY time, and exit -g if the time difference is huge, just update, don't complain -f drift file for heuristics so I don't have to update from the net. -l log file I've probably made a stupid mistake, but as far as I can gather from the man pages, a few google searches, etc. This should work fine. Any suggestions? Thanks, -Jim Stapleton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 17:25:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649F11065681 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 17:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from jedburgh.just4dns.com (jedburgh.just4dns.com [78.129.134.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03548FC1F for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 17:25:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from [86.153.243.228] (helo=movens.plus.com) by jedburgh.just4dns.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K0gRq-0000Xr-Fo for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:25:26 +0100 Received: from [10.10.1.4] (redshift [10.10.1.4]) by postbag.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878111CC32 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:25:37 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <483AF28F.1080102@magichamster.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:25:35 +0100 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080524) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483ADEA1.40206@webrz.net> <483AE57B.2000106@magichamster.com> <483AEB21.4070100@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: <483AEB21.4070100@webrz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 1K0gRq-0000Xr-Fo X-Fuzioned-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-From: parish@magichamster.com X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jedburgh.just4dns.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - magichamster.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: Kernel for Dual Core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 17:25:41 -0000 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > Mark Ovens wrote: >> What version of FreeBSD? IIRC, in 7.0 GENERIC is SMP-enabled by default? > Yep, it is... >> As for your kernel config file you should remove/comment out anything >> you don't have, e.g. wireless LAN, EISA, USB NICs, RAID, SCSI etc. - >> although be aware that USB Mass Storage devices are handled as SCSI so >> if you use any of those I'd leave everything in the SCSI Peripherals >> section and just remove the SCSI Controllers. > What I don't understand: if you do a cdrom install of FreeBSD, the > Kernel is based on GENERIC. > If I look in GENERIC, most items are not hashed out and there are parts > of them that my hardware does not use. And still it works. > Why then not use the 7.0 GENERIC for my dual core system? > You can use the GENERIC kernel. I've just checked and GENERIC in 7.0 does indeed have SMP enabled by default. The reason that nothing is #'d out and just about everything is in GENERIC is because it is exactly that, a *generic* kernel, and soo needs to be able to boot on any hardware it's installed on. The advantage of building a custom kernel is that you remove anything your system doesn't have which saves time when booting as the kernel won't be probing for devices that it will never find - for example. mine is an all-SCSI system so my kernel doesn't have any IDE or floppy devices in it - and it makes the kernel smaller (although that isn't really an issue these days). An alternative is to go into the configuration editor from the main boot menu and disable those compiled-in devices that you don't have. To confirm that your running kernel has detected and started both CPUs: /home/mark{8}% grep -i cpu /var/log/messages May 26 12:10:30 redshift kernel: CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) MP 2800+ (2133.42-MHz 686-class CPU) May 26 12:10:30 redshift kernel: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs May 26 12:10:30 redshift kernel: cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 May 26 12:10:30 redshift kernel: cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 May 26 12:10:30 redshift kernel: cpu0: on acpi0 May 26 12:10:30 redshift kernel: cpu1: on acpi0 May 26 12:10:30 redshift kernel: SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! /home/mark{9}% Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 17:34:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B07106567A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 17:34:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD618FC17 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 17:34:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so476755ana.13 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 10:34:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=LYNswK3bXAzLAX2Q8DQWZrCJ3Ee209goQbgNR5Q3Ow0=; b=cft96cmT/cb6KGwr5eUaVNSXH+/WEFNGi/hYaoROEB6PVfROxdoXDHNMuKoIYZhAGiIhwSzqmr+tLZwEvCfMYJBd+0yv7mRc6p22X3jg9VTcZOCWtgTqEXk1W1UTR2T+IHjArL2f9BevHN1VBNLvWUqS3E0CWeMVWcbZga8qkq0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; b=tToqK6fyvaj/7nYBHUclwcXkk7oy0tsDCmE+6L8nrS1Ln6iRHmByX/P6a6ZBxTDqWApMirDcyQbeapHJdxVgOnZu5Pvmcg7U4egUbwuFYTXbuut5g3Z+eRs8DdOrc7xburtSeqssgLz2ZXjZcrX5z+XNwW3ceh3hUYJDvyRsN5o= Received: by 10.100.247.14 with SMTP id u14mr338056anh.155.1211821508803; Mon, 26 May 2008 10:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.163.7 with HTTP; Mon, 26 May 2008 10:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <35f70db10805261005n4285d125g9da9450704fa4b38@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 19:05:08 +0200 From: "Ross Cameron" Sender: abalour@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 888438b4214ce3d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Animated splash screen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ross.cameron@linuxpro.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 17:34:04 -0000 Hi there all I'd like to create an animated splash screen for FreeBSD where the on screen output gives an indication of how far along the boot is. Basically like the KDE splash screen, but for the OS sub systems. Any thoughts? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 17:41:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80DC1106566C for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 17:41:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479B28FC0C for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 17:41:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA19D5D1A; Mon, 26 May 2008 13:41:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fxL0GVW7jrBh; Mon, 26 May 2008 13:41:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.152.145.134] (72-165-115-225.dia.static.qwest.net [72.165.115.225]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A218D5D0B; Mon, 26 May 2008 13:41:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <0ECBB986-7398-41E6-B79E-03A983078C4D@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: infofarmer@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20080526165403.GT92161@amilo.cenkes.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 10:41:34 -0700 References: <2EEC06F1F9B24B31B15CE1DCD095A7C1@GRANT> <369C3C67-9A6F-419A-AA25-FA62D8FD3425@mac.com> <20080526165403.GT92161@amilo.cenkes.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: Grant Peel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Required Directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 17:41:39 -0000 On May 26, 2008, at 9:54 AM, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: >> It's generally not expected that users would not own the stuff >> under their homedir, or would not be able to delete their files >> if they want to, even if doing so would break something. >> Normally, sysadmins code their scripts to re-create any missing >> directory hierarchy if needed, so that if a user manages to >> shoot themselves in the foot, the cron jobs will be able to >> provide first aid. > > I don't know what kind of sysadmins you're talking about, but, > say, if a hoster did not support files with non-ascii names, but > let me upload them and then just remove them automatically, I > would not be happy. Preventive policies work better for me. Hmm. While you seem to have written in response to what I'd said, I'm not entirely sure I follow the connection...? If I were a user who had a need to create non-ASCII filenames, then I would select a platform or hosting environment which could do exactly that, rather than selecting a platform or hosting environment which didn't provide a needed capability. It took two hops into Wikipedia to dig the following out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems#Limits If I were a user that needed to create non-ASCII filenames and was forced to use a platform which didn't support Unicode, well, I wouldn't be happy even if it refused to let me upload my files without renaming them, but sure, I suppose that I agree that it would be worse if it deleted my files after letting me upload them. I like systems which don't break better than ones which do and need to be fixed. I like systems which can fix themselves better than ones which can't tolerate recoverable errors and need human babysitting. Lots of people write scripts. Good scripts perform some level of sanity checking and they set up the environment they need to work instead of assuming that the existing situation is correct. They might provide guards against excessive concurrency by using lockfiles, they might recognize common modes of failure and deal with them (even if it is by logging an alert for a human and then bailing) and so forth. Anyway, using filesystem ACLs or flags to make the directories un- deletable is probably a better solution for Grant's situation than using the sticky bit or immutable flag. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 17:44:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978C91065680 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 17:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: from av7-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av7-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E24A8FC0C for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 17:44:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: by av7-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 02B50381D5; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:35:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av7-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6ED37F26; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:35:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.31] (90-230-141-139-no41.tbcn.telia.com [90.230.141.139]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88CB37E46; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:44:01 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <483AF6E0.3050602@passagen.se> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 19:44:00 +0200 From: Roger Olofsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Stapleton References: <80f4f2b20805261002x3a875b36s88dc1ea4b38bca87@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20805261002x3a875b36s88dc1ea4b38bca87@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpd - I'm sure I'm setting it up wrong, but I can't figure out how. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 17:44:04 -0000 Jim Stapleton skrev: > /etc/ntp.conf (I've tried without the restrict line): > ======================================== > server sushi.lyon.edu > restrict default ignore > driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift > ======================================== > 26 May 11:47:04 ntpd[16353]: no reply; clock not set > ======================================== > > Any suggestions? > Thanks, > -Jim Stapleton Hi Jim, Just the obvious, firewall blocking port 123 udp? Or could it be the the restrict line that needs commenting out? /Roger From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 18:02:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6024106566B for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:02:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61248FC1A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:02:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EED5D17; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:02:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C+uBy2tOl-bx; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:02:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.152.145.134] (72-165-115-225.dia.static.qwest.net [72.165.115.225]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 592555CB7; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:02:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: From: Chuck Swiger To: Jim Stapleton In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20805261002x3a875b36s88dc1ea4b38bca87@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 11:02:52 -0700 References: <80f4f2b20805261002x3a875b36s88dc1ea4b38bca87@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpd - I'm sure I'm setting it up wrong, but I can't figure out how. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:02:57 -0000 On May 26, 2008, at 10:02 AM, Jim Stapleton wrote: > I'm trying to run ntpd to auto-update my computer's time (since I'm > not supposed to use ntpdate). > > /etc/ntp.conf (I've tried without the restrict line): > ======================================== > server sushi.lyon.edu > restrict default ignore > driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift > ======================================== Your configuration is blocking all NTP traffic and commands, even from localhost. See: http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Support/AccessRestrictions#Section_6.5.1.2.1 . You also want to configure at least 4 timeservers if you want to get reliable "falseticker" detection; see: http://www.pool.ntp.org/use.html > I have tried this command (with and without the -g), with no success. > If I don't have an /etc/ntp.conf, it complains, and it stops > complaining when I put /etc/ntp.conf back where it belongs: > $ sudo /usr/sbin/ntpd -q -g -f /var/db/ntpd.drift -l /var/log/ > ntpd.log The system knows how to do this: echo 'ntpd_enable="YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf /etc/rc.d/ntpd start # or restart, perhaps -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 18:11:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85F01065676 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:11:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8093C8FC14 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:11:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 26 May 2008 14:11:38 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id ORW03628; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:11:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 26 May 2008 14:11:35 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18490.64855.333616.875277@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 14:11:35 -0400 To: Mark Ovens In-Reply-To: <483AF28F.1080102@magichamster.com> References: <483ADEA1.40206@webrz.net> <483AE57B.2000106@magichamster.com> <483AEB21.4070100@webrz.net> <483AF28F.1080102@magichamster.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel for Dual Core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:11:38 -0000 Mark Ovens writes: > The advantage of building a custom kernel is ... There are others. If I understand correctly, space for the kernel (code and data) is allocated once at initial system load. Smaller code portion => more space for data. Second, fewer components => fewer interactions => fewer possible points of failure. And, _anecdotally_, smaller kernels are faster. I haven't tested in a few years, but it used to be enough faster you could tell it with the naked eye. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 18:19:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F28106566B for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:19:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD688FC17 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:19:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683E7FD06A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 20:20:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44117FD061 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 20:20:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <483AFF30.2090108@webrz.net> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 20:19:28 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483ADEA1.40206@webrz.net> <483AE57B.2000106@magichamster.com> <483AEB21.4070100@webrz.net> <483AF28F.1080102@magichamster.com> In-Reply-To: <483AF28F.1080102@magichamster.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Subject: Re: Kernel for Dual Core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:19:30 -0000 Mark, Mark Ovens wrote: > The reason that nothing is #'d out and just about everything is in > GENERIC is because it is exactly that, a *generic* kernel, and soo > needs to be able to boot on any hardware it's installed on. Oke, now I understand. > The advantage of building a custom kernel is that you remove anything > your system doesn't have which saves time when booting as the kernel > won't be probing for devices that it will never find - for example. > mine is an all-SCSI system so my kernel doesn't have any IDE or floppy > devices in it - and it makes the kernel smaller (although that isn't > really an issue these days). With this speed that shouldn't be a problem... > An alternative is to go into the configuration editor from the main > boot menu and disable those compiled-in devices that you don't have. That I didn't know! > To confirm that your running kernel has detected and started both CPUs: > > /home/mark{8}% grep -i cpu /var/log/messages > > May 26 12:10:30 redshift kernel: CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) MP 2800+ > (2133.42-MHz 686-class CPU) > May 26 12:10:30 redshift kernel: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System > Detected: 2 CPUs > May 26 12:10:30 redshift kernel: cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > May 26 12:10:30 redshift kernel: cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 > May 26 12:10:30 redshift kernel: cpu0: on acpi0 > May 26 12:10:30 redshift kernel: cpu1: on acpi0 > May 26 12:10:30 redshift kernel: SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! > /home/mark{9}% I did this on my systems on which I installed FreeBSD from iso CD's: May 25 17:23:44 triton kernel: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs May 25 17:23:44 triton kernel: cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 May 25 17:23:44 triton kernel: cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 May 25 17:23:44 triton kernel: cpu0: on acpi0 May 25 17:23:44 triton kernel: est0: on cpu0 May 25 17:23:44 triton kernel: p4tcc0: on cpu0 May 25 17:23:44 triton kernel: cpu1: on acpi0 May 25 17:23:44 triton kernel: est1: on cpu1 May 25 17:23:44 triton kernel: p4tcc1: on cpu1 May 25 17:23:44 triton kernel: SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! So this would mean that I allready use a dual core tuned system? When should it say SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! ? Thanks for sharing, Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 18:22:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF291065670 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E2E8FC17 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB52AFD06D for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 20:23:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5BAFD061 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 20:23:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <483AFFF3.8000900@webrz.net> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 20:22:43 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483ADEA1.40206@webrz.net> <483AE57B.2000106@magichamster.com> In-Reply-To: <483AE57B.2000106@magichamster.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Subject: Re: Kernel for Dual Core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:22:44 -0000 Mark, Mark Ovens wrote: > As for your kernel config file you should remove/comment out anything > you don't have, e.g. wireless LAN, EISA, USB NICs, RAID, SCSI etc. - > although be aware that USB Mass Storage devices are handled as SCSI so > if you use any of those I'd leave everything in the SCSI Peripherals > section and just remove the SCSI Controllers. I have stripped the SCSI part out of the GENERIC and copied it to MYKERNEL with a symlink to /root/kernels :-) Let's find out what happens. thanks for sharing, Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 18:25:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78EBA1065670 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:25:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tl32@next.online.no) Received: from mail49.e.nsc.no (mail49.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D528FC12 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:25:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tl32@next.online.no) Received: from [84.202.100.237] (084202100237.customer.alfanett.no [84.202.100.237]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail49.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id m4QIP7Ah025868 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 20:25:07 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <483B009E.5000808@next.online.no> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 20:25:34 +0200 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080229) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483ADEA1.40206@webrz.net> <483AE57B.2000106@magichamster.com> <483AEB21.4070100@webrz.net> <483AF28F.1080102@magichamster.com> <18490.64855.333616.875277@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <18490.64855.333616.875277@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Kernel for Dual Core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:25:10 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: > And, _anecdotally_, smaller kernels are faster. Right, anecdotally. I seem to recall there was a real speed gain under version 4.x. When I tried to trim my kernel in one of the 6.x releases, however, there was barely any difference. -- Tore From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 18:42:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62038106564A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:42:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5AB8FC1D for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:42:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A8A8FD06A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 20:43:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43BDEFD061 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 20:43:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <483B04A2.1050909@webrz.net> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 20:42:42 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483ADEA1.40206@webrz.net> <483AE57B.2000106@magichamster.com> <483AEB21.4070100@webrz.net> <483AF28F.1080102@magichamster.com> <18490.64855.333616.875277@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <483B009E.5000808@next.online.no> In-Reply-To: <483B009E.5000808@next.online.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Subject: Re: Kernel for Dual Core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:42:44 -0000 Tore Lund wrote: > Right, anecdotally. I seem to recall there was a real speed gain under > version 4.x. When I tried to trim my kernel in one of the 6.x releases, > however, there was barely any differenc. > I have a hard disk bay in my server. Due to the fact that BSD is very flexible, in case of hardware failure other than hard disk, you can remove the hard drive and put it in any other server and with GENERIC you just power on and it will allways work. When you use a system tuned version, that might be not the case as some removed periphirals are deleted from the Kernel. Is this, in combination with the speedy processors nowadays, a reason to use GENERIC though? Is Kernel finetuning not for older hardware (P2 and P3 related)? Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 18:47:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3EB61065676 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:47:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from jedburgh.just4dns.com (jedburgh.just4dns.com [78.129.134.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACE38FC18 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:47:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from [86.153.243.228] (helo=movens.plus.com) by jedburgh.just4dns.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K0hjI-0001Lq-5v for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:47:32 +0100 Received: from [10.10.1.4] (redshift [10.10.1.4]) by postbag.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CDCB1CC32 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:47:44 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <483B05CE.3070802@magichamster.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 19:47:42 +0100 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080524) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483ADEA1.40206@webrz.net> <483AE57B.2000106@magichamster.com> <483AEB21.4070100@webrz.net> <483AF28F.1080102@magichamster.com> <483AFF30.2090108@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: <483AFF30.2090108@webrz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 1K0hjI-0001Lq-5v X-Fuzioned-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-From: parish@magichamster.com X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jedburgh.just4dns.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - magichamster.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: Kernel for Dual Core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:47:46 -0000 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > > I did this on my systems on which I installed FreeBSD from iso CD's: > > May 25 17:23:44 triton kernel: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System > Detected: 2 CPUs > May 25 17:23:44 triton kernel: cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > May 25 17:23:44 triton kernel: cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 > May 25 17:23:44 triton kernel: cpu0: on acpi0 > May 25 17:23:44 triton kernel: est0: Control> on cpu0 > May 25 17:23:44 triton kernel: p4tcc0: > on cpu0 > May 25 17:23:44 triton kernel: cpu1: on acpi0 > May 25 17:23:44 triton kernel: est1: Control> on cpu1 > May 25 17:23:44 triton kernel: p4tcc1: > on cpu1 > May 25 17:23:44 triton kernel: SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! > > So this would mean that I allready use a dual core tuned system? > When should it say SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! ? > CPUs are numbered from 0 - so you have cpu0 and cpu1. The system starts up on cpu0 and the kernel starts cpu1 later in the boot sequence. Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 18:49:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7531065671 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:49:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7512C8FC24 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:49:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1292055ywe.13 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 11:49:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ncqy1Ko4HH1i8vYhkiNUyv52+/h3/dn8H9q813/5pmI=; b=bdElll3Dp0WyitRROkFOflMCIds69bYnhk1uENaMsjnZZVfrbY8QQt8s/QWFBXkY3BXOg7RXSFqW2eDyXNqKfxAj/CO1D6hHhdQPHZ+sPe1bFlcVFw1BmTL1pved8sePvh00J+Kvwg/TVso3KWkfj2VGE9V5w6OHwT+OFNbXCPQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Y0mZAB6D0BYMnc0FcxYphYVbQW9VGfNKG84/fV1FOzvOa5uCH4k2cKNMGs89QBkHefxj8RTAaY7xZeduTgQnCO7/HdM5x4okaF25iMSPjz4XoL/FjRCAt83f9NSiNJD06vfmsdMJed1qB8m4KgUIF650o3JSSfsmHiqUcWeKGn4= Received: by 10.114.159.1 with SMTP id h1mr351488wae.98.1211827749735; Mon, 26 May 2008 11:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.150.14 with HTTP; Mon, 26 May 2008 11:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20805261149g12b768a8m971444fa75bf1b1f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 14:49:09 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: "Chuck Swiger" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20805261002x3a875b36s88dc1ea4b38bca87@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: ntpd - I'm sure I'm setting it up wrong, but I can't figure out how. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:49:17 -0000 On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On May 26, 2008, at 10:02 AM, Jim Stapleton wrote: >> >> I'm trying to run ntpd to auto-update my computer's time (since I'm >> not supposed to use ntpdate). >> >> /etc/ntp.conf (I've tried without the restrict line): >> ======================================== >> server sushi.lyon.edu >> restrict default ignore >> driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift >> ======================================== > > Your configuration is blocking all NTP traffic and commands, even from > localhost. See: Thanks, that fixed the issue. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 18:51:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191D41065686 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:51:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CB88FC1D for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:51:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m4QIowsv094227; Mon, 26 May 2008 20:50:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m4QIov6O094226; Mon, 26 May 2008 20:50:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 20:50:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200805261850.m4QIov6O094226@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, kayve@sfsu.edu, jcw@highperformance.net In-Reply-To: <483A3E1A.9030908@highperformance.net> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 26 May 2008 20:50:59 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: cvsup RELENG_6_3 to RELENG_7 impaired gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, kayve@sfsu.edu, jcw@highperformance.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:51:01 -0000 Jason C. Wells wrote: > Try downloading the binary packages for 7.0 that you need and install > them. That would be fastest. I think fastest would probably be to install the compat6x package (or port). Of course, it is certainly preferable to rebuild all ports for FreeBSD 7 (or re-install prebuilt packages). But if you need to get everything running as quickly as possible, installing compat6x is probably better. > FreeBSD doesn't claim to maintain binary (library?) compatibility across > major releases. Uhm. I think that's wrong. I still have a few FreeBSD 4.x binaries that run fine on current versions of FreeBSD. You just have to install the appropriate compat* packages (and the COMPAT_* options in your kernel, which is by default in GENERIC anyway). Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "Python tricks" is a tough one, cuz the language is so clean. E.g., C makes an art of confusing pointers with arrays and strings, which leads to lotsa neat pointer tricks; APL mistakes everything for an array, leading to neat one-liners; and Perl confuses everything period, making each line a joyous adventure . -- Tim Peters From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 18:56:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E5A1065672 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:56:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34A18FC23 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:56:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 377B7FD06A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 20:56:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BAD0FD061 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 20:56:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <483B07C9.4040805@webrz.net> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 20:56:09 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483ADEA1.40206@webrz.net> <483AE57B.2000106@magichamster.com> <483AEB21.4070100@webrz.net> <483AF28F.1080102@magichamster.com> <483AFF30.2090108@webrz.net> <483B05CE.3070802@magichamster.com> In-Reply-To: <483B05CE.3070802@magichamster.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Subject: Re: Kernel for Dual Core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:56:11 -0000 Mark Ovens wrote: > CPUs are numbered from 0 - so you have cpu0 and cpu1. The system > starts up on cpu0 and the kernel starts cpu1 later in the boot sequence. Oops, major boomer; sorry, I will RTFM next time I ask something... Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 18:57:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D871D106566C for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (ip-58-28-152-174.static-xdsl.xnet.co.nz [58.28.152.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896518FC0C for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0CA4328436; Tue, 27 May 2008 06:57:53 +1200 (NZST) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 06:57:53 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Michael Lednev Message-ID: <20080526185753.GB33445@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <483A95C7.9090805@mail.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <483A95C7.9090805@mail.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: strange ps behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:57:54 -0000 On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 02:49:43PM +0400, Michael Lednev wrote: > Hello. > > Can anyone explain such behaviour? > > # pgrep radiusd > 1105 > 33738 > # ps ax | grep radiusd > 1105 ?? Ss 2:35,76 /usr/local/sbin/radiusd > # ps 33738 > PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND > > Am I missing something? Yes. the "p" option, as in: ps p 33738 -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jesus saves. Allah forgives. Cthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 19:10:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A301065679 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665328FC24 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m4QJASng095172; Mon, 26 May 2008 21:10:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m4QJAS06095171; Mon, 26 May 2008 21:10:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 21:10:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200805261910.m4QJAS06095171@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, michaek@mail.ru In-Reply-To: <483A95C7.9090805@mail.ru> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 26 May 2008 21:10:29 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: strange ps behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, michaek@mail.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 19:10:31 -0000 Michael Lednev wrote: > # pgrep radiusd > 1105 > 33738 > # ps ax | grep radiusd > 1105 ?? Ss 2:35,76 /usr/local/sbin/radiusd > # ps 33738 > PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND It seems that the second matching process exited before the ps command was executed. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd I suggested holding a "Python Object Oriented Programming Seminar", but the acronym was unpopular. -- Joseph Strout From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 19:10:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E3F1065677 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:10:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from jedburgh.just4dns.com (jedburgh.just4dns.com [78.129.134.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A7B8FC12 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:10:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from [86.153.243.228] (helo=movens.plus.com) by jedburgh.just4dns.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K0i55-0004Er-2b for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 20:10:03 +0100 Received: from [10.10.1.4] (redshift [10.10.1.4]) by postbag.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721351CC32 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 20:10:15 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <483B0B15.4050904@magichamster.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 20:10:13 +0100 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080524) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 1K0i55-0004Er-2b X-Fuzioned-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-From: parish@magichamster.com X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jedburgh.just4dns.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - magichamster.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Pros and cons of amd(8) vs. hald(8) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 19:10:50 -0000 Would anyone care to offer any advice as to which is the better choice? I've never used amd(8) but have recently enabled hald(8) which seems to work reasonably well although I've had some crashes with USB devices - it probably doesn't help that my Asus m/b uses the AMD 76x chipset which had some USB issues and so did the mobo BIOS (Asus supplied a PCI USB card with the board to get around these). The advantage, if you see it as such, with hald(8) is that it enables KDE to pop-up a "what do you want to do" dialogue when you attach a device which amd(8) won't. Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 19:19:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA60E106564A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:19:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453908FC20 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:19:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m4QJJdlx095681; Mon, 26 May 2008 21:19:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m4QJJdxA095680; Mon, 26 May 2008 21:19:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 21:19:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200805261919.m4QJJdxA095680@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, jos@webrz.net In-Reply-To: <483AFF30.2090108@webrz.net> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 26 May 2008 21:19:40 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Kernel for Dual Core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, jos@webrz.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 19:19:41 -0000 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > So this would mean that I allready use a dual core tuned system? By the way, a very simple way to easily find out if you're running with SMP enabled is to run top(1). The column labeled "C" shows the number of the processor on which each process was executed most recently. You only get this column on an SMP system. If you have two processors (or cores), that column will contain the values 0 and 1. And finally, another way is to type "sysctl kern.smp.cpus". It'll show the number of processors. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd > Can the denizens of this group enlighten me about what the > advantages of Python are, versus Perl ? "python" is more likely to pass unharmed through your spelling checker than "perl". -- An unknown poster and Fredrik Lundh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 19:29:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33318106567D for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:29:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1AFC8FC21 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:29:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F1AFD06F for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 21:30:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A3AFD06E for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 21:30:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <483B0F94.7030609@webrz.net> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 21:29:24 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200805261919.m4QJJdxA095680@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200805261919.m4QJJdxA095680@lurza.secnetix.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Cc: Subject: Re: Kernel for Dual Core [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 19:29:28 -0000 Oliver, Oliver Fromme wrote: > By the way, a very simple way to easily find out if you're > running with SMP enabled is to run top(1). The column > labeled "C" shows the number of the processor on which each > process was executed most recently. You only get this > column on an SMP system. If you have two processors (or > cores), that column will contain the values 0 and 1. > Yep, I now have a SMP system running. Unfortunatly I am not allowd to attach, but in TOP is all is viewable now. Thank you all for your patience. I might seem a little bit narrow minded, but hey, I am still walking a learning curve L-) regards, Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 19:54:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED95106564A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:54:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E590C8FC13 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:54:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 7633839; Mon, 26 May 2008 15:54:46 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 7633837; Mon, 26 May 2008 15:54:28 -0400 Message-ID: <483B1574.4060409@radel.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 15:54:28 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Stapleton References: <80f4f2b20805261002x3a875b36s88dc1ea4b38bca87@mail.gmail.com> <80f4f2b20805261149g12b768a8m971444fa75bf1b1f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20805261149g12b768a8m971444fa75bf1b1f@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms080407010606070708050904" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpd - I'm sure I'm setting it up wrong, but I can't figure out how. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 19:54:47 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080407010606070708050904 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim Stapleton wrote: > On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: >> On May 26, 2008, at 10:02 AM, Jim Stapleton wrote: >>> I'm trying to run ntpd to auto-update my computer's time (since I'm >>> not supposed to use ntpdate). >>> >>> /etc/ntp.conf (I've tried without the restrict line): >>> ======================================== >>> server sushi.lyon.edu >>> restrict default ignore >>> driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift >>> ======================================== >> Your configuration is blocking all NTP traffic and commands, even from >> localhost. See: > > Thanks, that fixed the issue. I was also going to point out that I don't believe that the -f option does you much good unless, at some point, you've run ntpd as a daemon for a minimum of several hours or have otherwise put a decent drift value for your specific hardware into the file you reference. If you care about accurate time, you may wish to just go ahead and run ntpd the "normal" way with a bunch of servers; an earlier reply gave you what to put into into /etc/rc.conf. If so, I'd suggest restrict default nomodify notrap nopeer restrict -6 default nomodify notrap nopeer where the 2nd line is a really good idea if you've got any ipv6 at all, instead of just removing the restrict line entirely. This will block the worst abuse. 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<483ADEA1.40206@webrz.net> <483AE57B.2000106@magichamster.com><483AEB21.4070100@webrz.net> <483AF28F.1080102@magichamster.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 19:41:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Plusnet-Relay: 031434bd080891968c1524d8c98b239f Cc: Subject: Re: Kernel for Dual Core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 21:20:25 -0000 From: "Mark Ovens" > The advantage of building a custom kernel is that you remove anything your > system doesn't have which saves time when booting as the kernel won't be > probing for devices that it will never find - for example. mine is an > all-SCSI system so my kernel doesn't have any IDE or floppy devices in > it - and it makes the kernel smaller (although that isn't really an issue > these days). With FreeBSD and Linux I don't spend much time customising my kernel incase I remove a module that I actually need. Does anyone know of a tool which can probe for your devices and then suggest which modules can safely be disabled? thanks Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 21:40:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D53A1065676 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 21:40:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C298FC1B for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 21:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4QLdxf4001611; Mon, 26 May 2008 23:39:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AEA04BA95; Mon, 26 May 2008 23:39:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 23:39:59 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Andrew Brampton Message-ID: <20080526213959.GA5952@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Andrew Brampton , Mark Ovens , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483ADEA1.40206@webrz.net> <483AF28F.1080102@magichamster.com> <045c01c8bf60$13f50710$0a00a8c0@Andrew> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <045c01c8bf60$13f50710$0a00a8c0@Andrew> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Mark Ovens , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel for Dual Core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 21:40:02 -0000 --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 07:41:13PM +0100, Andrew Brampton wrote: > From: "Mark Ovens" >=20 >> The advantage of building a custom kernel is that you remove anything yo= ur=20 >> system doesn't have which saves time when booting as the kernel won't be= =20 >> probing for devices that it will never find - for example. mine is an=20 >> all-SCSI system so my kernel doesn't have any IDE or floppy devices in i= t=20 >> - and it makes the kernel smaller (although that isn't really an issue= =20 >> these days). >=20 >=20 > With FreeBSD and Linux I don't spend much time customising my kernel inca= se=20 > I remove a module that I actually need. Does anyone know of a tool which= =20 > can probe for your devices and then suggest which modules can safely be= =20 > disabled? Either 'dmesg|less' or 'pciconf -lv|less' or 'ls /dev' will show you which drivers are in use. If you see in the pciconf output a line starting with 'none', you have found a device without a driver. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkg7Li8ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWsUQCgneTupyVUkI3TK21WnaJlPWV/ MI8An22/heVHXi3H5rs9fcXJFZOdGpgd =XNrQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 21:54:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12ED106564A for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 21:54:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31608FC16 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 21:54:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: (qmail 31086 invoked from network); 26 May 2008 21:54:36 -0000 Received: from mxperim8.sea5.speakeasy.net ([69.17.117.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 May 2008 21:54:36 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mxperim8.sea5.speakeasy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4876F7217 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:54:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mxperim8.sea5.speakeasy.net Received: from mxperim8.sea5.speakeasy.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mxperim8.sea5.speakeasy.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MWlpY2forisW for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from w16.stradamotorsports.com (g1.stradamotorsports.com [64.81.163.42]) by mxperim8.sea5.speakeasy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 14:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <483B319B.4010503@highperformance.net> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 14:54:35 -0700 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4pre (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200805261850.m4QIov6O094226@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200805261850.m4QIov6O094226@lurza.secnetix.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: cvsup RELENG_6_3 to RELENG_7 impaired gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 21:54:37 -0000 Oliver Fromme wrote: > Uhm. I think that's wrong. I still have a few FreeBSD 4.x > binaries that run fine on current versions of FreeBSD. You > just have to install the appropriate compat* packages (and > the COMPAT_* options in your kernel, which is by default in > GENERIC anyway). Indeed. My understanding is very old. I never used any COMPAT stuff since it became available. I forgot it even existed. The only time I would ever run COMPAT is if I had a bit of software that couldn't be recompiled or was proprietary binary only software. That's just a matter of preference. Regards, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 22:09:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D398C1065687 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 22:09:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@smartt.com) Received: from barium.smartt.com (barium.smartt.com [69.67.187.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B690C8FC15 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 22:09:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@smartt.com) Received: from [69.31.174.220] (unknown [69.31.174.220]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by barium.smartt.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5679DAC841; Mon, 26 May 2008 15:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <483B351C.2070906@smartt.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 15:09:32 -0700 From: Chris St Denis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jos Chrispijn References: <483ADEA1.40206@webrz.net> <483AE57B.2000106@magichamster.com> <483AEB21.4070100@webrz.net> <483AF28F.1080102@magichamster.com> <18490.64855.333616.875277@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <483B009E.5000808@next.online.no> <483B04A2.1050909@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: <483B04A2.1050909@webrz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel for Dual Core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 22:09:25 -0000 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > Tore Lund wrote: >> Right, anecdotally. I seem to recall there was a real speed gain under >> version 4.x. When I tried to trim my kernel in one of the 6.x releases, >> however, there was barely any differenc. >> > I have a hard disk bay in my server. Due to the fact that BSD is very > flexible, in case of hardware failure other than hard disk, you can > remove the hard drive and put it in any other server and with GENERIC > you just power on and it will allways work. When you use a system > tuned version, that might be not the case as some removed periphirals > are deleted from the Kernel. Is this, in combination with the speedy > processors nowadays, a reason to use GENERIC though? > Is Kernel finetuning not for older hardware (P2 and P3 related)? > > Jos > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Although this can be useful, it's still generally reasonably safe to comment out a lot of stuff. For example, a server doesn't typically need mp3 player support, and most ISA stuff can probably go unless you are working with very old hardware, and a server probably doesn't need pccard support. The more obscure NICs can probably go too. -- Chris St Denis Programmer SmarttNet (www.smartt.com) Ph: 604-473-9700 Ext. 200 ------------------------------------------- "Smart Internet Solutions For Businesses" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 22:31:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BDFC1065670 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 22:31:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44BDC8FC0C for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 22:31:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6C1FD06A for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 00:32:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC2DFD061 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 00:32:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <483B3A3B.1030507@webrz.net> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 00:31:23 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483ADEA1.40206@webrz.net> <483AF28F.1080102@magichamster.com> <045c01c8bf60$13f50710$0a00a8c0@Andrew> <20080526213959.GA5952@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20080526213959.GA5952@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Subject: Re: Kernel for Dual Core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 22:31:25 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > Either 'dmesg|less' or 'pciconf -lv|less' or 'ls /dev' will show you > which drivers are in use. If you see in the pciconf output a line > starting with 'none', you have found a device without a driver. > I will add this to my well of wisdom; I learned a lot the last two days! thanks for sharing, Jos -- kern.smp.cpus: 2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 23:17:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC60A1065674 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 23:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deathjestr@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7314A8FC14 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 23:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deathjestr@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1348940ywe.13 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 16:17:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=LlB9/VFHo24YPtZzRqB2jqvjwu8sO4B8gitTa9/BqtE=; b=wykHB2dqZc2cERkB+gKVnshNgrFQs5m3Hd9SnPqY3dJH+OUgOsRLLJbZBD7bUuXwkkH+me4eZmb5eVaqDwnO8KQkKSVPASlAH3C9k0qyfbYYz9T8vmfLjGND8R7YGk3VjjykMoMYrlZBf/D8v8eq+eglLYhaSj4GKUz2bXa0Zlc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=pcmtXyBtJpD2KMmKYCRHUikGtYfW9qWWaP69blOcwk8YPO2IRNfBuN0NDqgzkDLcL1x+nKiMwBDZoHSE14K3mOaezMW78yGXAJi3p0wFEyleSRbN9RAL/zh56MFIdWhasIKBSy4ddsmxE9I1+cS5cRYP96HDmzjFuTskDNUqz4c= Received: by 10.78.203.20 with SMTP id a20mr673754hug.21.1211842331355; Mon, 26 May 2008 15:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.100.7 with HTTP; Mon, 26 May 2008 15:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44b564930805261552w7cd8116fr7263ad6ce49d718a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 17:52:11 -0500 From: Mike To: frank@solensky.org, kris@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: VAIO Laptop - Fatal trap 19 on boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 23:17:43 -0000 I have a Sony VAIO laptop, model number VGN-FZ260E. I was trying to boot the FreeBSD 7.0 amd64 bootonly install disk in it today and I kept getting a "fatal trap 19" error. Part of the output on the screen says: "RAM parity error, likely hardware failure" ...but I can't find any problems with it using memtest86, and other OSes run fine. It looks like this issue has come up on this list before (see URL below), but it doesn't look like it was ever resolved. The output I get is almost exactly the same as this: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=2567598+2571045+/usr/local/www/db/text/2008/freebsd-questions/20080323.freebsd-questions I also found a few similar reports from other users on the web: http://www.fug.com.br/historico/html/freebsd/2008-05/msg00208.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2007-December/039355.html I realize the OS is telling me it's a hardware failure, and maybe the errors from the above links were caused by hardware failure as well. But what bugs me is that nothing else seems to have any problem with my hardware. Is there a better tool (other than memtest86) that I can use to diagnose hardware problems? Please make sure to copy me on your responses, I am not subscribed to -questions. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 00:00:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB3C106567A for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 00:00:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from raq5.nitrex.net (raq5.nitrex.net [213.165.227.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80CD8FC16 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 00:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.10.142] (gate.zenatode.org.uk [213.165.225.167]) by raq5.nitrex.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m4R00fe5016203 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 01:00:50 +0100 Message-ID: <483B4F2F.2070201@onetel.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 01:00:47 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <48389A1D.9010201@onetel.com> <20080524230414.GA5679@shepherd> <200805251127.04215.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200805251127.04215.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: where is FreeBSD on ftp.uk.freebsd.org? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 00:00:54 -0000 Mike Clarke wrote: > On Sunday 25 May 2008, Sahil Tandon wrote: > >> * Chris Whitehouse [05-24-2008]: >>> Also UK is not in the list of countries at >>> http://mirrorlist.freebsd.org/FBSDsites.php. >> Several UK mirrors listed here: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html > > Unfortunately most of these don't appear to be functional. I've tried to > access /pub/FreeBSD/ports/ on them with very limited success. > > ftp.uk.freebsd.org => ftp.plig.net > Failed - /pub/FreeBSD doesn't exist So does anyone know if plig is coming back? Or out of curiosity why it is not? (It's been 'my' server ever since I started using FreeBSD). Chris > ftp2.uk.freebsd.org => ftp.mirrorservice.org > OK > ftp3.uk.freebsd.org => ftp.demon.net > Failed - Incomplete mirror > ftp> cd pub/FreeBSD > 250 CWD command successful. > ftp> dir > 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||52865|) > 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list > -r--rw-r-- 1 root archives 6254 Nov 5 2002 README.TXT > drwxr-xr-x 2 root archives 4096 Oct 24 2004 TrustedBSD > -r--rw-r-- 1 root archives 20645 Feb 5 2004 dir.sizes > 226 Transfer complete. > ftp4.uk.freebsd.org => sunsite.org.uk > Failed - Destination Host Unreachable > ftp5.uk.freebsd.org => karma.freebsd-uk.eu.org > Failed - no response > ftp6.uk.freebsd.org => storm.freebsd.org.uk > Failed - /pub/FreeBSD doesn't exist > > Of the 6 mirrors, ftp2.uk.freebsd.org looks like the only usable one. > That's what I've been using for quite a while now with no problems. > > The situation with UK mirrors for the FreeBSD website is quite messy > too. The home page at www.uk.freebsd.org doesn't appear to have been > updated for over a year, the production release is shown as 6.2 and the > latest security patch is listed as 2007-02-09. > > The main FreeBSD site shows a couple of UK > mirrors in it's drop-down list, United Kingdom/1 and United Kingdom/2, > which resolve to www1.uk.freebsd.org and www3.uk.freebsd.org > respectively. Currently www1 appears to be down but www3 appears to be > OK. > > I appreciate that www.uk.freebsd.org isn't listed as a mirror on the > main web site but it's the one many people might intuitively try to use > and it's a pity that it will give them such an out of date view of > FreeBSD. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1464 - Release Date: 5/24/2008 8:56 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 02:03:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA141065688 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 02:03:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [64.81.218.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56218FC17 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 02:03:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 9911 invoked by uid 1008); 27 May 2008 03:04:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@68.173.244.62) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 27 May 2008 03:04:38 -0000 Message-ID: <483B6C04.40602@el.net> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 22:03:48 -0400 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: mysql on fbsd 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 02:03:50 -0000 hi all... which will be the best option to build and run on freebsd 7 - mysql 5.1 or 6? thanks... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 02:23:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A597106566B for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 02:23:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mohammad.rasmi@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544328FC14 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 02:23:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mohammad.rasmi@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id p76so1860375pyb.10 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:23:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=vbnhRichPlNypWCsiS/nd5xM4KtBqHJ2/3sNb5B1Pi8=; b=Inryij8rbfZrI6K5NF6Y088RI76nUECndOCSH5tJeilsEE+mzVdG8dDUA/u1jSHyAA0j8H9UBeiPUW2DpZvTREk7F6U3uau1bZzJTXaUryuLdfkcuJOH7KJLJgPLMrd1ZeamBBZPSC9NmiJfTFmh1V6Xpei3x0iqkHJew1/Qv2w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=je4c6KqiNCwMkmrb4LP9AQXd3NhKv0EkKY0e+NRg8A0Zn9x0I3xak2qtllbu+8DQlMx8AGeoiNoN7wJZc4lyPX17PO3zGFvguUjPtB+G5neCZwiZw2CzQrhQWv0IxV895DGlgl+9ur7J38lWrhNi/LiXqz1J82JRWiZITf/MBCE= Received: by 10.142.199.16 with SMTP id w16mr251129wff.268.1211853578747; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.73.9 with HTTP; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6b0153210805261859i2bb9823atfacca74602d64aba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:59:38 +0900 From: "Mohammad Khashashneh" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Mysql 5 installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 02:23:46 -0000 Hello I'm having a problem with port dependencies. I want to install mysql 5 so I used the available port in /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-client However I get the following message upon installation: # make install ===> Installing for mysql-client-5.0.18_1 ===> mysql-client-5.0.18_1 conflicts with installed package(s): mysql-client-4.1.18_1 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). *** Error code 1 # pkg_delete mysql-client-4.1.18_1 pkg_delete: package 'mysql-client-4.1.18_1' is required by these other packages and may not be deinstalled: kde-3.5.1 koffice-1.4.2_3,1 php5-mysql-5.1.2_1 Is there a way around this? I hope I don't have to remove kde3 and koffice because I'm sure this will not be the end of it. Mohammad Khashashneh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 02:29:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5DF3106566C for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 02:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954308FC1C for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 02:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1863122wfg.7 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:29:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=6QGQERBrNlCLqgPPbnPzqE8OGQcgSIGdPWJH6G/48L4=; b=EeHYYCwazU+zUt3Mawo0MlcunxRTqhPm3TGgF3QBDipTSQ5y0W/wQTTl1irl/Ngln6BWnBhKYhhn4VtCisNW8c8xO8jjWfKfmiPR3VixyrPJOE5EDycec92W00qMM/+b1M8jYy1QgLE2S21pZcJPtBXTwajor7iMBXqYfWa6KRw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=X+atp3GhA6YzzXtfQ44YGDUWml4De0vrI8Cv2qMq3zScQ4WQk9/Hx2a5yQRf0y/7OpMEx5ehQ49Rey5sMqCFVtPZYGJtYK/1ji80LLR8scy5YepG3sw8MgKZFChv/nWZXZQaoVTXTznf3Wam1Ef3Vs3THLNfvJ9IRu6SYpRajAI= Received: by 10.143.37.14 with SMTP id p14mr260457wfj.267.1211855376141; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.87.9 with HTTP; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 19:29:36 -0700 From: "Kurt Buff" To: "Chris Whitehouse" In-Reply-To: <4838981D.4010906@onetel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <26face530805241258y199474edkcef7f79f8569b216@mail.gmail.com> <4838981D.4010906@onetel.com> Cc: Kelly Jones , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unix command-line tools to edit SharePoint site? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 02:29:36 -0000 On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Kelly Jones wrote: >> >> I begrudgingly use a Windows SharePoint server at a customer's request. >> >> I'd like to automate (command-line) updating and creating documents, >> lists, etc. >> >> Is there a Unix tool that does this? >> >> I know SharePoint has an "API", which basically spoofs the GET/POST >> calls that your browser would make(?). >> >> Has anyone written a Unix command-line tool (or Perl module, etc) that >> abstracts this? > > Is this what you want? > > http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ > > Chris If you want to use some/many/most of the core utils on Windows, you'll be much better off with http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net unxutils seems pretty moribund, and I have not been successful downloading the updates from that site for a while. Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 02:57:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2077106567F for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 02:57:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deathjestr@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984B68FC1C for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 02:57:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deathjestr@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1391869ywe.13 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:57:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Ht4l7UnrgfrvXaVp/pg9oG1i4IR8VKM+q9lxGeeFc0o=; b=ihmgOszkegMVLpXScUYpIXdKUrx61NqVZC2yGZEBn+9uv5lacGvMsxMWUoONlD335OA0iKGiU2+GRWVQ/KI3zatDwz/LsB28a/6Fnc3npqwEaPfTqpio+i2X/DHWHtiIxsHbYr8FZpUMMDigJy2pfiByvecKF1p1gmebdeKQ3m0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=n3LK57I/sfEKSHf7y5W9C20l4E1XDmbfQ2dGozhLwclt7qfTkqV3kTUyYXKVGeFasZVcIRSkOUNV68Fbo12rYue9t8hZGS2jXpkhXMenZ4sMHyr7KLq4czDJn0e7aGoicK2Tveq69vqc7O9MhquTL1jV4XdcXbQ7WoYoT0wJWr0= Received: by 10.78.129.16 with SMTP id b16mr705199hud.116.1211857035975; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.100.7 with HTTP; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44b564930805261957v83b4196m3271a8536197a4e5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 21:57:15 -0500 From: Mike To: orv In-Reply-To: <483B70FE.5040609@giallarhorn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <44b564930805261552w7cd8116fr7263ad6ce49d718a@mail.gmail.com> <483B70FE.5040609@giallarhorn.org> Cc: frank@solensky.org, kris@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VAIO Laptop - Fatal trap 19 on boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 02:57:29 -0000 > > Hi Mike, > my solution to the problem was to plug a firewire drive in. You can remove > the drive after it has been probed. Once i got the o.s installed i built a > custom kernel without firewire. > Thanks! I don't know where I'm going to get a firewire drive, but at least now I know I can make it work once I have a custom kernel built. Maybe when I get a system up and running I'll take a look at why the firewire module and the VAIO hardware don't like each other. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 02:58:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98A6106566C; Tue, 27 May 2008 02:58:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from technews@giallarhorn.org) Received: from loki.giallarhorn.com (giallarhorn.com [72.232.182.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBC68FC1F; Tue, 27 May 2008 02:58:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from technews@giallarhorn.org) Received: from [172.16.1.40] (c-68-34-26-222.hsd1.md.comcast.net [68.34.26.222]) (authenticated bits=0) by loki.giallarhorn.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4R1fGvF024324; Mon, 26 May 2008 21:41:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from technews@giallarhorn.org) Message-ID: <483B70FE.5040609@giallarhorn.org> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 22:25:02 -0400 From: orv User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike References: <44b564930805261552w7cd8116fr7263ad6ce49d718a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <44b564930805261552w7cd8116fr7263ad6ce49d718a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_DYNAMIC, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on loki.giallarhorn.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93/6936/Fri Apr 25 12:10:01 2008 on loki.giallarhorn.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: frank@solensky.org, kris@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VAIO Laptop - Fatal trap 19 on boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 02:58:13 -0000 Mike wrote: > I have a Sony VAIO laptop, model number VGN-FZ260E. I was trying to boot the > FreeBSD 7.0 amd64 bootonly install disk in it today and I kept getting a "fatal > trap 19" error. Part of the output on the screen says: > > "RAM parity error, likely hardware failure" > > ...but I can't find any problems with it using memtest86, and other > OSes run fine. > > It looks like this issue has come up on this list before (see URL below), but it > doesn't look like it was ever resolved. The output I get is almost > exactly the same > as this: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=2567598+2571045+/usr/local/www/db/text/2008/freebsd-questions/20080323.freebsd-questions > > I also found a few similar reports from other users on the web: > > http://www.fug.com.br/historico/html/freebsd/2008-05/msg00208.html > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2007-December/039355.html > > I realize the OS is telling me it's a hardware failure, and maybe the errors > from the above links were caused by hardware failure as well. But what bugs > me is that nothing else seems to have any problem with my hardware. Is > there a better tool (other than memtest86) that I can use to diagnose > hardware problems? > > Please make sure to copy me on your responses, I am not subscribed to > -questions. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi Mike, my solution to the problem was to plug a firewire drive in. You can remove the drive after it has been probed. Once i got the o.s installed i built a custom kernel without firewire. hth From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 03:59:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 226AA106567E for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 03:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B768FC23 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 03:59:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4R3xOvn039143 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 22:59:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) id m4R3xNkj039110; Mon, 26 May 2008 22:59:23 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 22:59:23 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Mohammad Khashashneh Message-ID: <20080527035923.GB5582@dan.emsphone.com> References: <6b0153210805261859i2bb9823atfacca74602d64aba@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6b0153210805261859i2bb9823atfacca74602d64aba@mail.gmail.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mysql 5 installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 03:59:25 -0000 In the last episode (May 27), Mohammad Khashashneh said: > I'm having a problem with port dependencies. I want to install mysql > 5 so I used the available port in > /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-client > > However I get the following message upon installation: > > # make install > ===> Installing for mysql-client-5.0.18_1 > > ===> mysql-client-5.0.18_1 conflicts with installed package(s): > mysql-client-4.1.18_1 > > They install files into the same place. > Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). > *** Error code 1 > > # pkg_delete mysql-client-4.1.18_1 > pkg_delete: package 'mysql-client-4.1.18_1' is required by these other > packages > and may not be deinstalled: > kde-3.5.1 > koffice-1.4.2_3,1 > php5-mysql-5.1.2_1 > > Is there a way around this? I hope I don't have to remove kde3 and > koffice because I'm sure this will not be the end of it. You can use portupgrade to upgrade the mysql-client port from mysql-client-4.1.18_1 to mysql-client-5.0.18_1. Portupgrade will keep the old shared libs in /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg/ so your old ports will still work. portupgrade -o databases/mysql50-client mysql-client-4.1.18_1 -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 05:04:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026F0106566B for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 05:04:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: from hunter.Sisis.de (hunter.sisis.de [193.31.11.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED278FC19 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 05:04:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: (from mail@localhost) by hunter.Sisis.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05159; Tue, 27 May 2008 06:56:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: from ppp-88-217-82-134.dynamic.mnet-online.de(88.217.82.134) by hunter.Sisis.de via smap (V2.1) id xma005105; Tue, 27 May 08 06:55:42 +0200 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id m4R53IN8002461; Tue, 27 May 2008 07:03:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 07:03:17 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Kurt Buff Message-ID: <20080527050317.GA2118@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <26face530805241258y199474edkcef7f79f8569b216@mail.gmail.com> <4838981D.4010906@onetel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (i386) Cc: Kelly Jones , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Chris Whitehouse Subject: Re: Unix command-line tools to edit SharePoint site? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 05:04:30 -0000 El día Monday, May 26, 2008 a las 07:29:36PM -0700, Kurt Buff escribió: > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > > Kelly Jones wrote: > >> > >> I begrudgingly use a Windows SharePoint server at a customer's request. > >> > >> I'd like to automate (command-line) updating and creating documents, > >> lists, etc. > >> > >> Is there a Unix tool that does this? > >> > >> I know SharePoint has an "API", which basically spoofs the GET/POST > >> calls that your browser would make(?). > >> > >> Has anyone written a Unix command-line tool (or Perl module, etc) that > >> abstracts this? > > > > Is this what you want? > > > > http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ > > > > Chris > > If you want to use some/many/most of the core utils on Windows, you'll > be much better off with http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net > > unxutils seems pretty moribund, and I have not been successful > downloading the updates from that site for a while. I think the idea was not to run some UNIX tools on top of a Windows server, but to access a Windows SharePoint server from a UNIX machine, i.e. put/get documents into that Windows SharePoint server from a UNIX server and cmd line based; am I right? at least I would like to use this with a Windows SharePoint server :-) thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ «...una sola vez, que es cuanto basta si se trata de verdades definitivas.» «...only once, which is enough if it has todo with definite truth.» José Saramago, Historia del Cerca de Lisboa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 05:18:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1341065671 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 05:18:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaek@mail.ru) Received: from big.innet.yaroslavl.su (big.innet.yaroslavl.su [217.15.134.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2DD8FC1A for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 05:18:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaek@mail.ru) Received: from relay.innet.yaroslavl.su (relay.innet.yaroslavl.su [217.15.134.70]) by big.innet.yaroslavl.su (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4R5IdiU068257; Tue, 27 May 2008 09:18:39 +0400 (MSD) Received: from reaper.yaroslavl.ru (reaper.yaroslavl.ru [85.113.195.205]) by relay.innet.yaroslavl.su (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4R5IdjI055974; Tue, 27 May 2008 09:18:39 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from michaek@mail.ru) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.0.56]) by reaper.yaroslavl.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE23228F7; Tue, 27 May 2008 09:18:38 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <483B99AF.4080508@mail.ru> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:18:39 +0400 From: Michael Lednev User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, michaek@mail.ru References: <200805261910.m4QJAS06095171@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200805261910.m4QJAS06095171@lurza.secnetix.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: strange ps behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 05:18:41 -0000 Oliver Fromme пОшет: > Michael Lednev wrote: > > # pgrep radiusd > > 1105 > > 33738 > > # ps ax | grep radiusd > > 1105 ?? Ss 2:35,76 /usr/local/sbin/radiusd > > # ps 33738 > > PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND > > It seems that the second matching process exited before > the ps command was executed. It's repeatable. The problem solved by restarting radiusd but it's a little undesirable. 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Tue, 27 May 2008 05:46:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9376A8FC16 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 05:46:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K0s14-0007XE-ON for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 22:46:34 -0700 Message-ID: <17483455.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 22:46:34 -0700 (PDT) From: berlowin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: berlowin@yahoo.com Subject: ABout Faithd Daemon And Access Control X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 05:46:35 -0000 Does anybody know how to setup access control for faithd daemon... 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 06:15:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F851065677 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 06:15:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6CF8FC1C for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 06:15:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4R6EvjR078821; Tue, 27 May 2008 07:14:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.5.5 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m4R6EvjR078821 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1211868899; bh=nGgeYJytbTI6RM gu7HLZ3TWXOy+kWf+venNir0ZE93U=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<483BA6DA.1050702@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Tue,=2 027=20May=202008=2007:14:50=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.14=20(X11/20080503)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Chuck=20Swiger=20|CC:=20Xiaobo=20Zhu=20,=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20 Re:=20Is=20there=20any=20cvsup=20site=20support=20ipv6|References:= 20=20<1 5B2305D-CE3E-43DE-A338-F4031380295F@mac.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<15B230 5D-CE3E-43DE-A338-F4031380295F@mac.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95. 6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0 A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"- -----------enig07BC0FFCF637542863DCD287"; b=Ic6dfBldPL9E2V3YCJW8gWn x0LNnPdo3OzsRTzVlWJsc/lLwjn7qmw80uu8npHEbzetTlN4y/abHlqu7T5G8iRqU+8 cfpcxTj5+IfyBtAbOpQduymYaStUd4NIPUJFlzQJTqhVh5a/RLio7qZhV/Y1AHM5oTS 53I0dwtdERbjGk= Message-ID: <483BA6DA.1050702@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 07:14:50 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080503) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <15B2305D-CE3E-43DE-A338-F4031380295F@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <15B2305D-CE3E-43DE-A338-F4031380295F@mac.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig07BC0FFCF637542863DCD287" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Tue, 27 May 2008 07:14:59 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93, clamav-milter version 0.93 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Xiaobo Zhu , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there any cvsup site support ipv6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 06:15:08 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig07BC0FFCF637542863DCD287 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chuck Swiger wrote: > On May 26, 2008, at 8:58 AM, Xiaobo Zhu wrote: >> would any one please tell me is there any cvsup site support ipv6, and= =20 >> sites >> close to china are more preferred. >=20 > I'm not sure why one would prefer IPv6 only, but yes: >=20 > % dig -t aaaa cvsup5.cn.freebsd.org > ; <<>> DiG 9.4.1-P1 <<>> -t aaaa cvsup5.cn.freebsd.org > ;; global options: printcmd > ;; Got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 1524 > ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 0 >=20 > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;cvsup5.cn.freebsd.org. IN AAAA >=20 > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > cvsup5.cn.freebsd.org. 0 IN CNAME cvsup-master.cn.freebsd.o= rg. > cvsup-master.cn.freebsd.org. 0 IN CNAME tarsier.delphij.net. > tarsier.delphij.net. 86400 IN AAAA 2001:470:1f03:2c9::2 >=20 > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: > delphij.net. 86387 IN NS ns-bj.delphij.net. > delphij.net. 86387 IN NS ns-tw.delphij.net. > delphij.net. 86387 IN NS ns-sh.delphij.net. >=20 > ;; Query time: 205 msec > ;; SERVER: 205.171.3.65#53(205.171.3.65) > ;; WHEN: Mon May 26 09:06:25 2008 > ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 187 >=20 > You might find the sysutils/fastest_cvsup port helpful... The server might have IPv6 connectivity but does it provide IPv6 access to cvsup? There's apparently no support in cvsupd for IPv6 (some sort of modula3 bug I heard). You have to play games with inetd(8) or=20 do tricky firewall redirect stuff to make cvsup available via IPv6. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig07BC0FFCF637542863DCD287 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkg7puEACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwbswCeNnfvTRj51JY89LBD2ylVDYOX Ci0AoIGhMrGYynPR7Xl2WfqgQ50rQajA =/aht -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig07BC0FFCF637542863DCD287-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 06:27:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A4F1065674 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 06:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ECBF8FC22 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 06:27:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so1682151tid.3 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 23:27:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=aEasOFmwwtPVJghmuZICG3pFjxJxIp3GD0otaA2rbus=; b=i+5J8zsoU98YiAB/dCfH5agmpviOdGUsgWQxxN0Yl9+621eD/Ed+cnI5zkWBEkFe/93gzPokZIsHdLtl8QGEG+uGCAd9X7M78U2Jt1hFzUeBD6NRXJhK1N2HlYNmyBemf3cmDitD/Jh/gkxqDex3Iif0jUaaHsiCbchGY1c6w3c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=VaAkzyWBx2CDR/g/hOpQDnYq5DoVBXC/zcbIOEl74BkHm/a3Z80A3hCwD/DNS3q0G03ubZ6YmUeBaTLljAWlDQfGJ5L5ZweQ9HyzBLK2NTXTseBP0pi3frKA/KsNc086SXTJTSZu4QWjlOYNBH4v8BIu8YOfEnjGsS2u+FR57e8= Received: by 10.151.150.13 with SMTP id c13mr602195ybo.155.1211869643367; Mon, 26 May 2008 23:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.219.9 with HTTP; Mon, 26 May 2008 23:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <991123400805262327l3bf70fc3ib6d16f7187be15e7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:27:23 +0300 From: "Odhiambo Washington" To: "kalin m" In-Reply-To: <483B6C04.40602@el.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <483B6C04.40602@el.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql on fbsd 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 06:27:26 -0000 On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 5:03 AM, kalin m wrote: > hi all... > > which will be the best option to build and run on freebsd 7 - mysql 5.1 or > 6? I believe it depends on the features you want with the DB. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 06:27:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790571065672 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 06:27:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karel@inetis.com) Received: from dsl.inetis.com (cpe-212-18-40-64.static.amis.net [212.18.40.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779A98FC1E for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 06:27:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karel@inetis.com) Received: from [192.168.110.14] ([192.168.110.14]) by inetis.com with MailEnable ESMTP; Tue, 27 May 2008 08:27:10 +0200 Message-ID: <483BAA2F.30009@inetis.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 08:29:03 +0200 From: Karel Miklav User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Fromme References: <200805231523.m4NFNOwO024115@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200805231523.m4NFNOwO024115@lurza.secnetix.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: delphij@freebsd.org, chinsan , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sed, shell and hexadecimal character codes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 06:27:29 -0000 Oliver Fromme wrote: > Karel Miklav wrote: > > There's a tip in the FreeBSD fortunes database that says: > > > > > Want to strip UTF-8 BOM(Bye Order Mark) from given files? > > > > > > sed -e '1s/^\xef\xbb\xbf//' < bomfile > newfile > > FreeBSD's sed(1) doesn't support hexadecimal or octal > sequences. I think even gnu sed doesn't support it, but > you might try it yourself (/usr/ports/textprog/gsed). > > I don't know why that fortunes entry exist. It's wrong. That's what I thought. Maybe we should replace the recipe with the awk version Oliver proposed below? > > I can't make it work, and I can't find any other method to > > work with hexa codes in scripts or on the command line so > > I'm kind-a depressed :) I help myself with xxd now, but if > > it is possible to avoid it, I'd like to hear about it. > > There is no standard for handling octal and hexadecimal > sequences, unfortunately, so you have to consult the > manual page to find out. For example, tr(1) supports > octal sequences only (no hexadecimal), while awk(1) > supports both. So the above line could be rewritten > with awk: > > awk '{if(NR==1)sub(/^\xef\xbb\xbf/, "");print}' < bomfile > newfile From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 06:51:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA38106567C for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 06:51:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from web52108.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52108.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 468D68FC2F for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 06:51:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 32482 invoked by uid 60001); 27 May 2008 06:51:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=hANHhXh/UVKu/xaVcq5fEyBVkKl0goiwzgnd8xbwrqIJ5orkwFxrIOUIcvWefjAbSyJYbARJ1fk30IxZczqkmLqexvAmFdcR/GbOTbtPdjOvO8wobs4NaGPYp0vdbO/wifFT6sRcSoldrCp1DPmkYBsBcRW9rxMXw8AG8DQFrrM=; X-YMail-OSG: SrAlM5gVM1lYCGwvKX0Z0yBcR0RTfU_MukT__sylcyQSCg72vYwJB9rNMAvUQehrZgKBgF8DmRzrH.mWTRjNl37vsufDvTjvDuQd Received: from [70.190.145.127] by web52108.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 26 May 2008 23:51:12 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/975.41 YahooMailWebService/0.7.185 Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 23:51:12 -0700 (PDT) From: gahn To: freebsd general questions , freebsd security MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <451466.32114.qm@web52108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: freebsd and snort X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 06:51:13 -0000 Hello all: I tried to install snort under /usr/ports/security and have some problems. with "make all", I checked every item on the menu but I got error messages: ////////////////////////////// laptop# make all ===> snort-2.8.1_1 is marked as broken: FLEXRESP2 patch file does not incorporate cleanly. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/snort. /////////////////////////////// tried "make distclean" and it didn't seem to help to clear the problem. Looked at the timestamps on the files and I don't see any files modified by the command "make all" could anyone help me on this? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 07:26:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA771065681 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 07:26:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaek@mail.ru) Received: from big.innet.yaroslavl.su (big.innet.yaroslavl.su [217.15.134.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F4C8FC1C for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 07:26:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaek@mail.ru) Received: from relay.innet.yaroslavl.su (relay.innet.yaroslavl.su [217.15.134.70]) by big.innet.yaroslavl.su (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4R7PwpD041540; Tue, 27 May 2008 11:25:58 +0400 (MSD) Received: from reaper.yaroslavl.ru (reaper.yaroslavl.ru [85.113.195.205]) by relay.innet.yaroslavl.su (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4R7Pvwx073257; Tue, 27 May 2008 11:25:58 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from michaek@mail.ru) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.10.53]) by reaper.yaroslavl.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22CC2228F7; Tue, 27 May 2008 11:25:57 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <483BB785.4070206@mail.ru> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:25:57 +0400 From: Michael Lednev User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Chen References: <483A95C7.9090805@mail.ru> <20080526185753.GB33445@osiris.chen.org.nz> In-Reply-To: <20080526185753.GB33445@osiris.chen.org.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: strange ps behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 07:26:11 -0000 Jonathan Chen пОшет: > On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 02:49:43PM +0400, Michael Lednev wrote: > >> Hello. >> >> Can anyone explain such behaviour? >> >> # pgrep radiusd >> 1105 >> 33738 >> # ps ax | grep radiusd >> 1105 ?? Ss 2:35,76 /usr/local/sbin/radiusd >> # ps 33738 >> PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND >> >> Am I missing something? >> > > Yes. the "p" option, as in: > > ps p 33738 > > Sorry, I see no difference # ps 1621 PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 1621 p2 Is+ 0:00,03 -tcsh (tcsh) # ps p 1621 PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 1621 p2 Is+ 0:00,03 -tcsh (tcsh) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 07:31:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32218106564A for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 07:31:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberto.nunnari@supsi.ch) Received: from ti-edu.ch (posta.ti-edu.ch [195.176.176.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818A08FC2B for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 07:31:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberto.nunnari@supsi.ch) X-Virus-Scanned: by cgpav Received: from [193.5.152.27] (HELO [127.0.0.1]) by ti-edu.ch (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.12) with ESMTP id 26296725; Tue, 27 May 2008 09:31:52 +0200 Message-ID: <483BB927.5070004@supsi.ch> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:32:55 +0200 From: Roberto Nunnari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gahn References: <451466.32114.qm@web52108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <451466.32114.qm@web52108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd security , freebsd general questions Subject: Re: freebsd and snort X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 07:31:56 -0000 Hello gahn. it's exactly as it says.. the FLEXRESP2 option is broken.. try to build without FLEXRESP2 to change your options do a make config Best regards. Robi gahn wrote: > Hello all: > > I tried to install snort under /usr/ports/security and have some problems. with "make all", I checked every item on the menu but I got error messages: > > ////////////////////////////// > > laptop# make all > ===> snort-2.8.1_1 is marked as broken: FLEXRESP2 patch file does not incorporate cleanly. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/security/snort. > > /////////////////////////////// > > tried "make distclean" and it didn't seem to help to clear the problem. Looked at the timestamps on the files and I don't see any files modified by the command "make all" > > could anyone help me on this? > > Thanks > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-security@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-security-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 07:37:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28328106566C for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 07:37:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2CE8FC13 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 07:37:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from lack-of-gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4R7bFNW082242 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 27 May 2008 08:37:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.5.5 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m4R7bFNW082242 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1211873841; bh=fBYWfReMIL6dHh rAvcM0OhGLHhxil/XmrgPnFfWVj0Q=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<483BBA2B.6 080303@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Tue,=2027=20May=202008=2008: 37:15=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird= 202.0.0.14=20(X11/20080506)|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Odhiambo=20Wa shington=20|CC:=20kalin=20m=20,=2 0freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20mysql=20on=20fbsd=2 07|References:=20<483B6C04.40602@el.net>=20<991123400805262327l3bf7 0fc3ib6d16f7187be15e7@mail.gmail.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<9911234008052 62327l3bf70fc3ib6d16f7187be15e7@mail.gmail.com>|X-Enigmail-Version: =200.95.0|Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3DUTF-8|Content-T ransfer-Encoding:=207bit; b=EtWkMUFo8DwJ+EyUPaFHofgKwIJNdx737vjndJv 3GrGE5I4IHQ7awgFAoJr8Z/hYEgMheRtQG3EkT8Fw0GoEVIKg5Qgu0+Tl/F4ZtK74bF vJmZ1zpbyEQY333grJSYR3B5NmmTG/Ks9H1LciMwFhMO3JUyQdpw+Wv6R0gBzeZMk= Message-ID: <483BBA2B.6080303@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 08:37:15 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080506) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Odhiambo Washington References: <483B6C04.40602@el.net> <991123400805262327l3bf70fc3ib6d16f7187be15e7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <991123400805262327l3bf70fc3ib6d16f7187be15e7@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]); Tue, 27 May 2008 08:37:21 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93, clamav-milter version 0.93 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: kalin m , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql on fbsd 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 07:37:29 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 5:03 AM, kalin m wrote: > >> hi all... >> >> which will be the best option to build and run on freebsd 7 - mysql 5.1 or >> 6? > > > I believe it depends on the features you want with the DB. > > Although stick with the MySQL 5.0 if your data is at all important to you, or you need the best performance. 5.1 and 6 are still very much works in progress; even though 5.1 is getting pretty close to general release it's not there yet. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3 7 Priory Courtyard PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW, UK -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREDAAYFAkg7uioACgkQ3jDkPpsZ+Vb4WgCeOPqXpLsL9039ZclLy8zQjLL1 zjsAoLPu6lyb4UrinrmQ1eZRo9616vg/ =1Xrb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 07:38:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893A31065670 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 07:38:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s.hattori@scs.co.jp) Received: from ff5gw2.as.netxdc.ne.jp (ff5gw2.as.netxdc.ne.jp [61.213.56.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACC38FC1C for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 07:38:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s.hattori@scs.co.jp) Received: from ff5vw1.as.netxdc.ne.jp (ff5vw1 [10.100.16.12]) by ff5gw2.as.netxdc.ne.jp with ESMTP id m4R7cMKA029294 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 16:38:27 +0900 (JST) Received: from ff5vw1.as.netxdc.ne.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ff5vw1.as.netxdc.ne.jp with ESMTP id m4R7cLLX009044 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 16:38:21 +0900 (JST) Received: from SHAT ([10.102.0.32]) by ff5vw1.as.netxdc.ne.jp with SMTP id m4R7cLNt009033 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 16:38:21 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <011501c8bfcc$a3164b40$c154140a@colors.scs.co.jp> From: "Hattori, Shigehiro" To: Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 16:38:19 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-2022-jp"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Subject: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE: Can I specify the maximum number of cores that kernel can recognize ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 07:38:33 -0000 Hi, I try to measure Bind caching name server's multi threading performance on FreeBSD 7 , like below. -- # of cores query/second 1 xx 2 xx 4 xx 6 xx 8 xx -- My testing machine has 8 cores. ( quad core * 2 ) I'd like to specify the maximum # of cores that kernel can recognize. Can I specify the maximum # of cores with boot parameters or something ? I've already done Bind multi threading performance test on Linux ( CentOS5 ) In case of CentOS5 , I specified maximum # of cores with grub.conf$B!!(B"maxcpus=1 or 2 or 4 or ..." # cat /etc/grub.conf title CentOS (2.6.18-53.1.21.el5PAE) root (hd0,1) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5PAE ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet maxcpus=6 initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5PAE.img # The following is the results I did on CentOS5 ( kernel: 2.6.18-53.1.21.el5 ). -- Bind 9.4.2 caching name server on CentOS5 # of cores query/second CPU ( named ) 1 3578 99.9 2 5070 196 4 6608 362 6 9042 527 8 10552 678 -- - Bind's machine spec CPU: Intel Xeon E5346 2.3GH ( quad core * 2 ) Memory: 4GB Bind 9.4.2 Cache size: 1400MB Max recursive clients: 50000 - Traffic generetor: queryperf Query list: all queries are uniq ( that means "No answer in the cache" ) Best regards, Shigehiro From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 07:48:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9C1106567A for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 07:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from i.tanusheff@procreditbank.bg) Received: from mail.procreditbank.bg (mail.procreditbank.bg [193.26.216.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C8AE8FC22 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 07:48:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from i.tanusheff@procreditbank.bg) Received: (qmail 43966 invoked from network); 27 May 2008 10:38:20 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO domino.procreditbank.bg) (10.0.0.15) by 192.168.1.3 with SMTP; 27 May 2008 10:38:20 +0300 In-Reply-To: To: Gilles MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0.2 September 26, 2006 From: Ivailo Tanusheff Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:21:49 +0300 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on DOMINO/BULGARIA/PROCREDITBANK(Release 7.0.2FP2|May 14, 2007) at 27.05.2008 10:21:49, Serialize complete at 27.05.2008 10:21:49 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is it safe to upgrade libraries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 07:48:30 -0000 You may upgrade the port trough portupgrade without any concerns. I do so for more then 10 years so it is OK for me so far. I usually use in /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf: PORTUPGRADE_ARGS = ENV['PORTUPGRADE'] || '-v -c -C -r -R' And I execute portupgrade: portupgrade -v -i -a -y If I want to force all upgrades: portupgrade -v -i -a -y -f Regards, Ivailo Tanusheff Gilles Sent by: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 26.05.2008 15:50 To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc Subject Is it safe to upgrade libraries? Hello When running "'pkg_version -v", I notice that some libraries are out of date, such as the most important glib: glib-2.14.6 < needs updating (port has 2.16.3) Before I go ahead and run "cd /usr/ports/devel/glib20 ; make ; make install", I'd like to check what the recommended way is to upgrade critical applications like this? As I connect remotely through SSH, I wouldn't want to break this box and have to drive to the location because it won't run after the upgrade. Thank you. __________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 07:51:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69DF1065676 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 07:51:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s.hattori@scs.co.jp) Received: from ff5gw1.as.netxdc.ne.jp (ff5gw1.as.netxdc.ne.jp [61.213.56.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E788FC22 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 07:51:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s.hattori@scs.co.jp) Received: from ff5vw3.as.netxdc.ne.jp (ff5vw3 [10.100.16.18]) by ff5gw1.as.netxdc.ne.jp with ESMTP id m4R578co008076 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 14:07:08 +0900 (JST) Received: from ff5vw3.as.netxdc.ne.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ff5vw3.as.netxdc.ne.jp with ESMTP id m4R5775G001954 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 14:07:07 +0900 (JST) Received: from SHAT ([10.102.0.32]) by ff5vw3.as.netxdc.ne.jp with SMTP id m4R577OP001950 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 14:07:07 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <009101c8bfb7$82d72f80$c154140a@colors.scs.co.jp> From: "Hattori, Shigehiro" To: Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:07:06 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-2022-jp"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Subject: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE: specify maximum number of cores that kernel can recognize X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 07:51:05 -0000 Hi, I try to measure Bind caching name server's multi threading performance on FreeBSD 7 , like below. -- # of cores query/second 1 xx 2 xx 4 xx 6 xx 8 xx -- My testing machine has 8 cores. ( quad core * 2 ) I'd like to specify maximum # of cores that kernel can recognize. Can I specify maximum # of cores using with parameter or something ? I've already done Bind multi threading performance test on Linux ( CentOS5 ) In case of CentOS5 , I specified maximum # of cores with grub.conf$B!!(B"maxcpus=1 or 2 or 4 or ..." # cat /etc/grub.conf title CentOS (2.6.18-53.1.21.el5PAE) root (hd0,1) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5PAE ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet maxcpus=6 initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5PAE.img # The following is the results I did on CentOS5 ( kernel: 2.6.18-53.1.21.el5 ). -- Bind 9.4.2 caching name server on CentOS5 # of cores query/second CPU ( named ) 1 3578 99.9 2 5070 196 4 6608 362 6 9042 527 8 10552 678 -- - Bind's machine spec CPU: Intel Xeon E5346 2.3GH ( quad core * 2 ) Memory: 4GB Bind 9.4.2 Cache size: 1400MB Max recursive clients: 50000 - Traffic generetor: Nominum resperf Query list: all queries are uniq ( that means "No answer in the cache" ) Best regards, Shigehiro From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 08:22:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25919106567B for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 08:22:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swhetzel@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3458FC3D for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 08:22:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swhetzel@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2761496rvf.43 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 01:22:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=jPg3lslb7wvAoiUjHT/Q+NjF6+8A/TFlUFlIsJ8xsyA=; b=pVgpQEKXatotq+rP5dK7cNalrqj1KhDaXvfVm9mfKNq8SSyGmbMXclr5RLYiydLX37OihoZ9tcuWHgrhKz/uT06J5e/u1pQTyN0WmcIlA7SAzVWEE+RTveW9L+N3kA2lZGdjGxZbgzvoYKZ1A5HH5yH6jju++IH86FULP0hAm7M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fygsrvuz1OTMlTvjOm55hfynt6iON66U4EKbm2d7cJw0mHRdT0WsQlg9a/qhP/fPjPdkkdMmaE2QXUOj4o70w4kOw/21BDa2BaTvDzaGZKCg2w/ogyIPHuqse8+xkjnQX5pZzHtiMSB4yUTBnD85JhaDBYbznYDGiJ6dMcKf6Cc= Received: by 10.140.170.12 with SMTP id s12mr411075rve.101.1211875058727; Tue, 27 May 2008 00:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.41.4 with HTTP; Tue, 27 May 2008 00:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <790a9fff0805270057v2aa0959byac63d5659ae61b8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 02:57:38 -0500 From: "Scot Hetzel" To: gahn In-Reply-To: <451466.32114.qm@web52108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <451466.32114.qm@web52108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd security , freebsd general questions Subject: Re: freebsd and snort X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 08:22:13 -0000 On 5/27/08, gahn wrote: > Hello all: > > I tried to install snort under /usr/ports/security and have some problems. with "make all", I checked every item on the menu but I got error messages: > > ////////////////////////////// > > laptop# make all > ===> snort-2.8.1_1 is marked as broken: FLEXRESP2 patch file does not incorporate cleanly. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/security/snort. > > /////////////////////////////// > > tried "make distclean" and it didn't seem to help to clear the problem. Looked at the timestamps on the files and I don't see any files modified by the command "make all" > > could anyone help me on this? > Use "make config" to bring up the Options screen, and check FLEXRESP and uncheck FLEXRESP2. Scot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 09:05:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4F91065671 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 09:05:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573D38FC1E for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 09:05:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0ACFD06A for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 11:06:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B62AFD061 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 11:06:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <483BCEF3.8090806@webrz.net> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:05:55 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <009101c8bfb7$82d72f80$c154140a@colors.scs.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <009101c8bfb7$82d72f80$c154140a@colors.scs.co.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE: specify maximum number of cores that kernel can recognize X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:05:57 -0000 Hattori, Shigehiro wrote: > I'd like to specify maximum # of cores that kernel can recognize. > Can I specify maximum # of cores using with parameter or something ? I came upon this URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/getstarted.html Watch the # The number of CPUs on the motherboard, defaults to 2: options NCPU=2 expression Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 09:30:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3F0106564A for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 09:30:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s.hattori@scs.co.jp) Received: from ff5gw1.as.netxdc.ne.jp (ff5gw1.as.netxdc.ne.jp [61.213.56.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041078FC18 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 09:30:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s.hattori@scs.co.jp) Received: from ff5vw1.as.netxdc.ne.jp (ff5vw1 [10.100.16.12]) by ff5gw1.as.netxdc.ne.jp with ESMTP id m4R9USKg019090; Tue, 27 May 2008 18:30:28 +0900 (JST) Received: from ff5vw1.as.netxdc.ne.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ff5vw1.as.netxdc.ne.jp with ESMTP id m4R9UScW027394; Tue, 27 May 2008 18:30:28 +0900 (JST) Received: from SHAT ([10.102.0.32]) by ff5vw1.as.netxdc.ne.jp with SMTP id m4R9URIN027385; Tue, 27 May 2008 18:30:27 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <014801c8bfdc$4ca4fad0$c154140a@colors.scs.co.jp> From: "Hattori, Shigehiro" To: "Jos Chrispijn" References: <009101c8bfb7$82d72f80$c154140a@colors.scs.co.jp> <483BCEF3.8090806@webrz.net> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 18:30:26 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-2022-jp"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE: specify maximum number of cores that kernel can recognize X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:30:30 -0000 Hi, Jos > I came upon this URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/getstarted.html > > Watch the > > # The number of CPUs on the motherboard, defaults to 2: > options NCPU=2 > I understood. Thank you. Shigehiro From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 09:45:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A9B10656C7; Tue, 27 May 2008 09:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35FAB8FC0A; Tue, 27 May 2008 09:45:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <483BD839.9020804@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:45:29 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Hattori, Shigehiro" References: <011501c8bfcc$a3164b40$c154140a@colors.scs.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <011501c8bfcc$a3164b40$c154140a@colors.scs.co.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE: Can I specify the maximum number of cores that kernel can recognize ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:45:31 -0000 Hattori, Shigehiro wrote: > Hi, > > I try to measure Bind caching name server's multi threading performance on > FreeBSD 7 , like below. > > -- > # of cores query/second > 1 xx > 2 xx > 4 xx > 6 xx > 8 xx > -- > > My testing machine has 8 cores. ( quad core * 2 ) > > I'd like to specify the maximum # of cores that kernel can recognize. > Can I specify the maximum # of cores with boot parameters or something ? You can disable the cores you do not want by turning off their lapic. Add to /boot/loader.conf: hint.lapic.0.disabled=1 turns off lapic 0, etc. Cross-reference against dmesg: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 8 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 <---- disables this core cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 cpu4 (AP): APIC ID: 4 cpu5 (AP): APIC ID: 5 cpu6 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu7 (AP): APIC ID: 7 > I've already done Bind multi threading performance test on Linux ( > CentOS5 ) > In case of CentOS5 , I specified maximum # of cores with grub.conf　 > "maxcpus=1 > or 2 or 4 or ..." > > # cat /etc/grub.conf > title CentOS (2.6.18-53.1.21.el5PAE) > root (hd0,1) > kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5PAE ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb > quiet maxcpus=6 > initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5PAE.img > # > > The following is the results I did on CentOS5 ( kernel: > 2.6.18-53.1.21.el5 ). > > -- Bind 9.4.2 caching name server on CentOS5 > # of cores query/second CPU ( named ) > 1 3578 99.9 > 2 5070 196 > 4 6608 362 > 6 9042 527 > 8 10552 678 > -- > > - Bind's machine spec > > CPU: Intel Xeon E5346 2.3GH ( quad core * 2 ) > Memory: 4GB > Bind 9.4.2 > Cache size: 1400MB > Max recursive clients: 50000 > > - Traffic generetor: queryperf > Query list: all queries are uniq ( that means "No answer in the cache" ) Make sure you are resolving these queries against another local server. If you're querying random servers in the internet then you're mostly going to be benchmarking your uplink latency and the maximum query rate will be limited by the number of broken servers you query that do not respond but time out. Those numbers are quite low even for Linux; on similar hardware I can achieve 60000 qps on Linux and about 105000 qps on FreeBSD: http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/bind-pt.png With 1gb ethernet I have to query from multiple clients to get that high because of request latency (with 10gbe I can saturate from a single client). I was not disabling cores but limiting the number of bind threads, which should be approximately the same thing especially for 8 threads. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 09:47:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766F71065677 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 09:47:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06C38FC28 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 09:47:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m4R9lKU9030108; Tue, 27 May 2008 11:47:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m4R9lI0C030107; Tue, 27 May 2008 11:47:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:47:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200805270947.m4R9lI0C030107@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, jos@webrz.net, chris@smartt.com In-Reply-To: <483B351C.2070906@smartt.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 27 May 2008 11:47:21 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Kernel for Dual Core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, jos@webrz.net, chris@smartt.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:47:23 -0000 Chris St Denis wrote: > Jos Chrispijn wrote: > > Tore Lund wrote: > > > Right, anecdotally. I seem to recall there was a real speed gain under > > > version 4.x. When I tried to trim my kernel in one of the 6.x releases, > > > however, there was barely any differenc. > > > > I have a hard disk bay in my server. Due to the fact that BSD is very > > flexible, in case of hardware failure other than hard disk, you can > > remove the hard drive and put it in any other server and with GENERIC > > you just power on and it will allways work. When you use a system > > tuned version, that might be not the case as some removed periphirals > > are deleted from the Kernel. Is this, in combination with the speedy > > processors nowadays, a reason to use GENERIC though? > > Is Kernel finetuning not for older hardware (P2 and P3 related)? > > Although this can be useful, it's still generally reasonably safe to > comment out a lot of stuff. For example, a server doesn't typically need > mp3 player support, and most ISA stuff can probably go unless you are > working with very old hardware, and a server probably doesn't need > pccard support. The more obscure NICs can probably go too. It might also be a good idea to remove USB support if you don't need it, especially on servers. The reason for that is that the USB interrupt handler is quite heavy-weight, and when the interrupt number of the USB controller is shared with another device (network or disk controller), it will suffer from the overhead. You can load USB kernel modules anytime if you discover you need them at a later time. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is a protected abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor, and when was the last time you needed one?" -- Tom Cargil, C++ Journal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 09:54:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90204106566B for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 09:54:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBEA8FC18 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 09:54:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m4R9sBvj030827; Tue, 27 May 2008 11:54:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m4R9sBcH030826; Tue, 27 May 2008 11:54:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:54:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200805270954.m4R9sBcH030826@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, michaek@mail.ru In-Reply-To: <483B99AF.4080508@mail.ru> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 27 May 2008 11:54:11 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: strange ps behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, michaek@mail.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:54:13 -0000 Michael Lednev wrote: > Oliver Fromme ?????: > > Michael Lednev wrote: > > > # pgrep radiusd > > > 1105 > > > 33738 > > > # ps ax | grep radiusd > > > 1105 ?? Ss 2:35,76 /usr/local/sbin/radiusd > > > # ps 33738 > > > PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND > > > > It seems that the second matching process exited before > > the ps command was executed. > > It's repeatable. That means that the radiusd process kept forking short- lived child processes, for whatever reason. > The problem solved by restarting radiusd but it's a > little undesirable. Sounds like a bug in radiusd was triggered somwhow. I don't think there's a problem with ps, because ps is unable to show processes that don't exist anymore. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "In My Egoistical Opinion, most people's C programs should be indented six feet downward and covered with dirt." -- Blair P. Houghton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 10:14:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFEDC106566B for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 10:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA348FC1A for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 10:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m4RAEbDf032485; Tue, 27 May 2008 12:14:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m4RAEb6W032484; Tue, 27 May 2008 12:14:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 12:14:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200805271014.m4RAEb6W032484@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, s.hattori@scs.co.jp In-Reply-To: <011501c8bfcc$a3164b40$c154140a@colors.scs.co.jp> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 27 May 2008 12:14:38 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE: Can I specify the maximum number of cores that ?kernel can recognize ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, s.hattori@scs.co.jp List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:14:40 -0000 Hattori, Shigehiro wrote: > I try to measure Bind caching name server's multi threading performance on > FreeBSD 7 , like below. > [...] > My testing machine has 8 cores. ( quad core * 2 ) > > I'd like to specify the maximum # of cores that kernel can recognize. > Can I specify the maximum # of cores with boot parameters or something ? You can reduce the MAXCPUS constant. The default is 16 on i386 and amd64. Unfortunately you have to modify a header file and recompile your kernel. The MAXCPUS constant can be found in /sys/$ARCH/include/param.h and is installed as /usr/include/machine/param.h. After reboot you can verify the new value with sysctl kern.smp.maxcpus (it's a read-only value). Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs." -- Robert Firth From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 10:18:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E7F106564A for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 10:18:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from heka.cenkes.org (heka.cenkes.org [208.79.80.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43928FC26 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 10:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from amilo.cenkes.org (ppp83-237-168-82.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [83.237.168.82]) (Authenticated sender: sat) by heka.cenkes.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 83714242F846; Tue, 27 May 2008 14:18:44 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:18:40 +0400 From: Andrew Pantyukhin To: Michael Lednev Message-ID: <20080527101839.GU92161@amilo.cenkes.org> References: <200805261910.m4QJAS06095171@lurza.secnetix.de> <483B99AF.4080508@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <483B99AF.4080508@mail.ru> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: strange ps behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: infofarmer@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:18:46 -0000 On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 09:18:39AM +0400, Michael Lednev wrote: > Oliver Fromme =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: >> Michael Lednev wrote: >> > # pgrep radiusd >> > 1105 >> > 33738 >> > # ps ax | grep radiusd >> > 1105 ?? Ss 2:35,76 /usr/local/sbin/radiusd >> > # ps 33738 >> > PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND Please provide the output of "pgrep -fl radiusd". Also try "ps auxww|grep radiusd". AFAIK, by default pgrep matches against command names, while ps displays command lines. The two entities may be quite different. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 10:25:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C64A1065679 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 10:25:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaek@mail.ru) Received: from big.innet.yaroslavl.su (big.innet.yaroslavl.su [217.15.134.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73BBE8FC12 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 10:25:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaek@mail.ru) Received: from relay.innet.yaroslavl.su (relay.innet.yaroslavl.su [217.15.134.70]) by big.innet.yaroslavl.su (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4RAPJMU025528; Tue, 27 May 2008 14:25:19 +0400 (MSD) Received: from reaper.yaroslavl.ru (reaper.yaroslavl.ru [85.113.195.205]) by relay.innet.yaroslavl.su (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4RAPJsq003741; Tue, 27 May 2008 14:25:19 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from michaek@mail.ru) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.10.53]) by reaper.yaroslavl.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CAFA228F7; Tue, 27 May 2008 14:25:11 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <483BE188.80100@mail.ru> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:25:12 +0400 From: Michael Lednev User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, michaek@mail.ru References: <200805270954.m4R9sBcH030826@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200805270954.m4R9sBcH030826@lurza.secnetix.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: strange ps behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:25:22 -0000 Oliver Fromme пОшет: > Michael Lednev wrote: > > Oliver Fromme ?????: > > > Michael Lednev wrote: > > > > # pgrep radiusd > > > > 1105 > > > > 33738 > > > > # ps ax | grep radiusd > > > > 1105 ?? Ss 2:35,76 /usr/local/sbin/radiusd > > > > # ps 33738 > > > > PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND > > > > > > It seems that the second matching process exited before > > > the ps command was executed. > > > > It's repeatable. > > That means that the radiusd process kept forking short- > lived child processes, for whatever reason. > keeping constant PID for children? > > The problem solved by restarting radiusd but it's a > > little undesirable. > > Sounds like a bug in radiusd was triggered somwhow. > I don't think there's a problem with ps, because ps > is unable to show processes that don't exist anymore. I will try to update radiusd and see whether this problem will show up again. It arises not very often. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 10:26:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 370AD1065674 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 10:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from heka.cenkes.org (heka.cenkes.org [208.79.80.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7D98FC1B for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 10:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from amilo.cenkes.org (ppp83-237-168-82.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [83.237.168.82]) (Authenticated sender: sat) by heka.cenkes.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2ED31242F838; Tue, 27 May 2008 14:26:28 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:26:26 +0400 From: Andrew Pantyukhin To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20080527102624.GV92161@amilo.cenkes.org> References: <15B2305D-CE3E-43DE-A338-F4031380295F@mac.com> <483BA6DA.1050702@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <483BA6DA.1050702@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: Xiaobo Zhu , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there any cvsup site support ipv6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: infofarmer@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:26:30 -0000 On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 07:14:50AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > The server might have IPv6 connectivity but does it provide > IPv6 access to cvsup? There's apparently no support in cvsupd > for IPv6 (some sort of modula3 bug I heard). You have to play > games with inetd(8) or do tricky firewall redirect stuff to > make cvsup available via IPv6. Here's what I have in the crontab of my private cvsup server: @reboot ncvs /usr/bin/nice -n 19 /usr/local/sbin/cvsupd -A 127.0.0.1 -C5 -s /home/ncvs @reboot ncvs /usr/local/bin/stone 127.0.0.1:5999 5999/v6 Nothing else is needed, and it works great. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 10:50:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A56810656AA for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 10:50:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336168FC32 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 10:50:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K0wl5-0003dU-OI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 May 2008 10:50:23 +0000 Received: from mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net ([82.237.75.54]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 10:50:23 +0000 Received: from gilles.ganault by mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 10:50:23 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Gilles Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 12:50:15 +0200 Lines: 6 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080527-0, 27/05/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Sender: news Subject: Re: Is it safe to upgrade libraries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:50:30 -0000 On Tue, 27 May 2008 10:21:49 +0300, Ivailo Tanusheff wrote: >You may upgrade the port trough portupgrade without any concerns. I do so >for more then 10 years so it is OK for me so far. Thanks guys. I upgrade glib, and the box is still running :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 11:16:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014E0106566B for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 11:16:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from umarul@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA538FC0C for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 11:16:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from umarul@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1472142ywe.13 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 04:16:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=QLQ6fK+ne06HIVSXO/IieJSCOI7yAtenbeh6/GWM1Vk=; b=sYgl7QRRWV3u80pKUveiFX7iBu/p3jXhb0RR2gJhoqk3JEychnUwRQSYbYR1IbroxEGmpHpmw/cKmUPHDD0XKCZPGldo+ivk3LkqqDnzlxSgiK/CbnP8iB22bwoR24BRcf9PY3u1aJJJwjJhQq+0ncHN0UAvXxuansXpqtF0gNY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=HaaJh9mlnLor9DYixTT6UxLgmn/a/Whs3cBHGBus2/sOmACbNZuqM42c7lzrYISgmuP1IvqxHYdRtXhaRorm2Fd7Vj5WSmhm03k2zKD4nIvOns6wTtnFmYsNCryuHUyvmFqbhsgXGDFtZ56yNZ7hncEzt65LiQ2Squd9/xXdBXA= Received: by 10.150.123.16 with SMTP id v16mr3780757ybc.40.1211885228529; Tue, 27 May 2008 03:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.217.8 with HTTP; Tue, 27 May 2008 03:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <335b9b110805270347i2d666e37s92d24d4e3c468661@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 16:17:08 +0530 From: "Arul Murugan" To: questions@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: net.inet6.ip6.rthdr0_allowed is not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:16:13 -0000 Hello, I am using FreeBSD 7 for IPv6 Logo testing, where in i need to enable Router header processing, i tried with "net.inet6.ip6.rthdr0_allowed=1", but it is not working. Operatting system Version: -------------------------------- tar2# uname -a FreeBSD tar2.ipv6logo.hp.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008 root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Failure in sysctl: -------------------- tar2# sysctl -w net.inet6.ip6.rthdr0_allowed=1 sysctl: unknown oid 'net.inet6.ip6.rthdr0_allowed' I've seen 'net.inet6.ip6.rthdr0_allowed' in Free BSD 7 Release notes. and it is not working. Could any one please help me to enable Routing Header. Thanks in Advance. Regards, Arul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 11:37:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722EA1065670 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 11:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5BA8FC0A for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 11:37:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m4RBbbev036653; Tue, 27 May 2008 13:37:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m4RBba1j036652; Tue, 27 May 2008 13:37:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 13:37:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200805271137.m4RBba1j036652@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, michaek@mail.ru In-Reply-To: <483BE188.80100@mail.ru> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 27 May 2008 13:37:37 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: strange ps behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, michaek@mail.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:37:39 -0000 Michael Lednev wrote: > Oliver Fromme ?????: > > Michael Lednev wrote: > > > Oliver Fromme ?????: > > > > Michael Lednev wrote: > > > > > # pgrep radiusd > > > > > 1105 > > > > > 33738 > > > > > # ps ax | grep radiusd > > > > > 1105 ?? Ss 2:35,76 /usr/local/sbin/radiusd > > > > > # ps 33738 > > > > > PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND > > > > > > > > It seems that the second matching process exited before > > > > the ps command was executed. > > > > > > It's repeatable. > > > > That means that the radiusd process kept forking short- > > lived child processes, for whatever reason. > > keeping constant PID for children? OK, you didn't mention that it is the same PID every time. In that case my first suspicion would be a bug in pgrep. If it happens again, I suggest you use pgrep -lf. Maybe the output gives a hint. (Also note that ps cuts after 80 columns. Sometimes the information you're looking for is after column 80, so I recommend to always use -ww, especially when the output is used for matching in scripts.) Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. 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Ritchie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 12:21:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84251065674 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 12:21:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaek@mail.ru) Received: from big.innet.yaroslavl.su (big.innet.yaroslavl.su [217.15.134.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A6C8FC5B for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 12:21:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaek@mail.ru) Received: from relay.innet.yaroslavl.su (relay.innet.yaroslavl.su [217.15.134.70]) by big.innet.yaroslavl.su (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m4RCKxcr078640; Tue, 27 May 2008 16:20:59 +0400 (MSD) Received: from reaper.yaroslavl.ru (reaper.yaroslavl.ru [85.113.195.205]) by relay.innet.yaroslavl.su (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4RCKwPJ042950; Tue, 27 May 2008 16:20:59 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from michaek@mail.ru) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.10.53]) by reaper.yaroslavl.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA68C228F7; Tue, 27 May 2008 16:20:57 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <483BFCA9.9060705@mail.ru> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 16:20:57 +0400 From: Michael Lednev User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, michaek@mail.ru References: <200805271137.m4RBba1j036652@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200805271137.m4RBba1j036652@lurza.secnetix.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: strange ps behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 12:21:02 -0000 Oliver Fromme пОшет: > Michael Lednev wrote: > > Oliver Fromme ?????: > > > Michael Lednev wrote: > > > > Oliver Fromme ?????: > > > > > Michael Lednev wrote: > > > > > > # pgrep radiusd > > > > > > 1105 > > > > > > 33738 > > > > > > # ps ax | grep radiusd > > > > > > 1105 ?? Ss 2:35,76 /usr/local/sbin/radiusd > > > > > > # ps 33738 > > > > > > PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND > > > > > > > > > > It seems that the second matching process exited before > > > > > the ps command was executed. > > > > > > > > It's repeatable. > > > > > > That means that the radiusd process kept forking short- > > > lived child processes, for whatever reason. > > > > keeping constant PID for children? > > OK, you didn't mention that it is the same PID every time. > In that case my first suspicion would be a bug in pgrep. > If it happens again, I suggest you use pgrep -lf. Maybe > the output gives a hint. > It happened again. # pgrep -lf radiusd 74847 /usr/local/sbin/radiusd 93248 radiusd There is no /proc/93248 directory, so I assume there's surely no such process. Am I right? > (Also note that ps cuts after 80 columns. Sometimes the > information you're looking for is after column 80, so I > recommend to always use -ww, especially when the output > is used for matching in scripts.) I use pgrep in my script. If I need ps I always use ww, but thanks for suggestion anyway. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 12:36:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7641065670 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 12:36:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6FD8FC13 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 12:36:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j4so2436580wah.3 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 05:36:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=F9vX9Y+FdxwaaVIXQE7o3ma6UDDONpdt8pkS6PMVafM=; b=R+E+PvcJj4JQ5HoHlbi7oNfjpHGbm8Jhs2aOIqqOklC1PayAHXtihWYa1OFujqiUW40AbaxXe/ICzDLoQ0J6bUpdoz+006u7gpS5NTYsf3Zf6XuZhMY8cJz9FexlgSFoCj3dciqa1muPLQDs/N9DRE/JrYIgoSjO0VOskf8Z7Pc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bYVes1y1G0PGC7Mv0FCxrApA3Bk0/XXMkRdBYYvGivQnBP3PT5wKHQx+vye/xwneTHjoyIkM/5BYLKofyVIIQGw3RXD5sh1wFNwR6c5I+lME2NaE4kg6L0v51Xj3nBW11g+EJUKSP0cnkTXbAAswCcKU8+GrVjC/eVCu4euBSWc= Received: by 10.114.135.1 with SMTP id i1mr1272363wad.5.1211891764962; Tue, 27 May 2008 05:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.46.3 with HTTP; Tue, 27 May 2008 05:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <26face530805270536h6522afe0ja0c04d316ebd2ed7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 05:36:04 -0700 From: "Kelly Jones" To: "Matthias Apitz" In-Reply-To: <20080527050317.GA2118@rebelion.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <26face530805241258y199474edkcef7f79f8569b216@mail.gmail.com> <4838981D.4010906@onetel.com> <20080527050317.GA2118@rebelion.Sisis.de> Cc: Kurt Buff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Chris Whitehouse Subject: Re: Unix command-line tools to edit SharePoint site? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 12:36:05 -0000 On 5/26/08, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > I think the idea was not to run some UNIX tools on top of a Windows > server, but to access a Windows SharePoint server from a UNIX machine, > i.e. put/get documents into that Windows SharePoint server from a UNIX > server and cmd line based; am I right? > > at least I would like to use this with a Windows SharePoint server :-) > thx > > matthias Matthias, you're right. I appreciate everyone's help w/ Cygwin-like suggestions, but, as someone in another group pointed out, I'm really looking for something more like pysharepoint: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pysharepoint -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 13:18:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75C31065672 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 13:18:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from det135@hoenikker.aset.psu.edu) Received: from f05n03.cac.psu.edu (f05s03.cac.psu.edu [128.118.141.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5F18FC18 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 13:18:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from det135@hoenikker.aset.psu.edu) Received: from hoenikker.aset.psu.edu (hoenikker.aset.psu.edu [128.118.99.49]) by f05n03.cac.psu.edu (8.13.2/8.13.2) with ESMTP id m4RDIbeP110250 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 09:18:37 -0400 Received: from hoenikker.aset.psu.edu (hoenikker.aset.psu.edu [128.118.99.49]) by hoenikker.aset.psu.edu (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4RDHqJp066978 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 09:17:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from det135@hoenikker.aset.psu.edu) Received: (from det135@localhost) by hoenikker.aset.psu.edu (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m4RDHquO066977 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 May 2008 09:17:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from det135) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:17:52 -0400 From: Derek Taylor To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080527131752.GI62442@psu.edu> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: Re: Bind DNS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Derek Taylor List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 13:18:39 -0000 On Fri, 23 May 2008, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: >On May 22, 2008, at 9:10 PM, Ruel Luchavez wrote: > >> Hi ALL, >> >> Is it possible in BIND DNS to block images in a certain sites? like >> for >> example the popular friends site ( friendster), >> i want to block most images in that site so that client will be >> irritated >> that their images don't load perfectly. but s till >> they can visit their site? > >DNS is not the right level to be doing that unless you know that the >images are actually served from a different server than the other >content on the site (which is unlikely). > >An HTTP proxy, Squid in particular, will be the right tool. About a >year ago, I saw a description where someone had put in a filter in >Squid to blur or rotate all images. The screen shots of that where >hilarious, but I can't remember exactly where this was posted. > >Cheers, > >-j Google for "Upside-Down-Ternet". The instructional narrative is still available. -Derek. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 14:16:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0351065672 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 14:16:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 505C48FC0C for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 14:16:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([193.31.10.34]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 27 May 2008 16:20:02 +0200 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id m4REGivO010151; Tue, 27 May 2008 16:16:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 16:16:44 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Manolis Kiagias Message-ID: <20080527141644.GA9912@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <972994690801011020u60ed0a0et6d8356cdb1f6f974@mail.gmail.com> <20080102141419.GB61289@sandvine.com> <20080521143210.GA70289@rebelion.Sisis.de> <4834516F.1010002@otenet.gr> <20080523092901.GA8878@rebelion.Sisis.de> <483699DE.6080907@otenet.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <483699DE.6080907@otenet.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 May 2008 14:20:02.0299 (UTC) FILETIME=[C08DF4B0:01C8C004] Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Asus eee (was Re: G4 Quicksilver as Web Server?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:16:49 -0000 El día Friday, May 23, 2008 a las 01:18:06PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió: > Yes, I am already planning to upgrade :) > At this time, it is not available in Greece (though I have spotted a few > on ebay). > Even more important than the 20Gb SSD is the 9 inch display with a > resolution of 1024x600. > 800x480 is really small for anything more other than taking notes. > I've setup in a virtual machine with 8 GByte virtual disk and 512 MByte virtual RAM such a customised mini installation (only kernel, bin's and Xorg), and filled in as well KDR 3.5.8, firefox-devel, stardict; the resulting space is: $ df -kh . ; du -sh PKGDIR/ Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 7.7G 4.2G 2.9G 59% / 1,6G PKGDIR/ i.e. 4.5 GByte are left over (in ~/PKGDIR I have for the moment all packages for installation, which can be removed later of course); the 512 MByte (virtual RAM) with no swap device is fine as well; top shows: Mem: 73M Active, 262M Inact, 72M Wired, 1192K Cache, 60M Buf, 82M Free with KDE up and running; this is really a nice way to go for; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ «...una sola vez, que es cuanto basta si se trata de verdades definitivas.» «...only once, which is enough if it has todo with definite truth.» José Saramago, Historia del Cerca de Lisboa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 15:57:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FCC106566C for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 15:57:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff@m2.seamanpaper.com) Received: from buster.seamanpaper.com (buster.seamanpaper.com [67.158.116.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52CD8FC13 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 15:57:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff@m2.seamanpaper.com) Received: (qmail 51392 invoked from network); 27 May 2008 11:57:55 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO junco.intranet.seamanpaper.com) (192.168.10.133) by buster.seamanpaper.com with SMTP; 27 May 2008 11:57:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 28768 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 2008 15:58:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.10.80?) (192.168.10.80) by 192.168.10.133 with SMTP; 27 May 2008 15:58:39 -0000 Message-ID: <483C2F85.9000405@m2.seamanpaper.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:57:57 -0400 From: Jeff Dickens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jeff@seamanpaper.com References: <4829CE3C.30409@m2.seamanpaper.com> In-Reply-To: <4829CE3C.30409@m2.seamanpaper.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050106050305060805080304" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, bacula-users Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] trickle and bacula-fd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jeff@seamanpaper.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 15:57:57 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050106050305060805080304 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit bump... now that some folks are back from conferences maybe you might lend a clue? Thanks. Jeff Dickens wrote: > Pardon the cross-posting; don't know where would be the better place > to ask. > > I've got bacula-fd running under trickle, and it seems to be doing > exactly what I want it to. I manually started bacula-fd on my freebsd > system like this: > > /usr/local/bin/trickle -s -u 24 /usr/local/sbin/bacula-fd -u root > -g wheel -v -c /usr/local/etc/bacula-fd.conf > > > The normal rc file for bacula-fd looks like this.. how should I modify > it to make it run under trickle as above? > > #!/bin/sh > # > # $FreeBSD: ports/sysutils/bacula-server/files/bacula-fd.in,v 1.4 > 2007/03/01 12:19:01 miwi Exp $ > # > # PROVIDE: utility > # REQUIRE: DAEMON > # KEYWORD: shutdown > # > # Add the following lines to /etc/rc.conf.local or /etc/rc.conf > # to enable this service: > # > # bacula_fd_enable (bool): Set to NO by default. > # Set it to YES to enable bacula_fd. > # bacula_fd_flags (params): Set params used to start bacula_fd. > # > > . /etc/rc.subr > > name="bacula_fd" > rcvar=${name}_enable > command=/usr/local/sbin/bacula-fd > > load_rc_config $name > > pidfile="${bacula_fd_pidfile}" > > : ${bacula_fd_enable="NO"} > : ${bacula_fd_flags=" -u root -g wheel -v -c > /usr/local/etc/bacula-fd.conf"} > : ${bacula_fd_pidfile="/var/run/bacula-fd.9102.pid"} > > run_rc_command "$1" > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Bacula-users mailing list > Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users > --------------050106050305060805080304-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 16:12:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE5D1065670 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 16:12:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff@m2.seamanpaper.com) Received: from buster.seamanpaper.com (buster.seamanpaper.com [67.158.116.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50338FC1A for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 16:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff@m2.seamanpaper.com) Received: (qmail 52312 invoked from network); 27 May 2008 12:12:36 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO junco.intranet.seamanpaper.com) (192.168.10.133) by buster.seamanpaper.com with SMTP; 27 May 2008 12:12:36 -0400 Received: (qmail 28838 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 2008 16:13:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.10.80?) (192.168.10.80) by 192.168.10.133 with SMTP; 27 May 2008 16:13:19 -0000 Message-ID: <483C32F5.9010903@m2.seamanpaper.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 12:12:37 -0400 From: Jeff Dickens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080515185758.GA12709@ikarus.thalreit> <20080515210819.GA12605@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <20080515211620.GH18488@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> <20080515153843.L77471@border.lukas.is-a-geek.org> In-Reply-To: <20080515153843.L77471@border.lukas.is-a-geek.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060607000609090306020508" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: time drift X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jeff@seamanpaper.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 16:12:37 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060607000609090306020508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have the opposite problem... the clocks run fast on my vmware clients. I'm running FreeBSD 6.3 on vmware ESX server 3.0.2 on an IBM x-series dual Xeon. I have this in my my loader.conf: kern.hz="100" hint.apic.0.disabled=1 The latter line made a big improvement, but it still slowly gains. If I could only get linux guests to do as well. I have ntpd running in the ESX maintenance console, and it's keeping good time. I have offset less than 1 from a stratum 2 server. I also have this in the .vmx file for the guest: tools.syncTime = "TRUE" Is there anyway to "slow down" the clock just a tiny bit, so the vmware synctime thing can keep it correct? The timekeeping whitepaper from vmware says that the synctime facility won't set the time back, which of course would be in general a bad idea. Luke Dean wrote: > > > On Thu, 15 May 2008, Christopher Cowart wrote: > >> David Kelly wrote: >>> Its PC commodity-grade. Not all that unusual even for stuff sold >>> claiming to be a "server". This is in no small part why ntpd exists. >>> >>> nptd calculates a correction coefficient and (under FreeBSD) stores it >>> in /var/db/ntpd.drift for use on next start so as to more quickly >>> establish a lock. >>> >>> So in short ntpd calibrates your clock in order to minimize the >>> corrections required. Is The Right Thing To Do. >> >> We run a large number of FreeBSD servers under vmware. We've seen ntpd >> silently die, because the drift becomes "insane." What do others do in >> this situation? (We've resorted to croning ntpdate for VMs.) > > kern.hz="100" > in /boot/loader.conf solved this problem for me. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --------------060607000609090306020508-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 17:35:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 051D71065676 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 17:35:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rayseals@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9038F8FC14 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 17:35:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rayseals@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so2481810fkk.11 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 10:35:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=e/FfvJbfRpchxdwQXftEoF3Bqn7gzpk7/eWgthljMO0=; b=ssC5xOQpQyAgddw61W+LAKiSYn5wo/g4kNhRmuVLMBV8Cu9o0JfXw0qal6su21XznJaTrsvyg2Hkoaw6zDLvkb1/bU4aZisw9FZ9rmDbCSkrAFBJcm3b1Uc51I0fnBQRTq3f/Xgxhc0cDSUv3UaJ93IgAqXFWiPUUVTeoWeDp9I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=xhxdmonO9S3SrgGlAhjUPG4j81VzDW2U1obgr/ke9PmWEFO7XSS3Oqh5Qh5SM1VLIvlj/izLqPtcLLQYIa/Hjg5lXPF3LjCtE36oXBnGQG3BX1Km+g5IOtEbzxneKssJLIDP7t76B3PbGleHDWtP1itnj2qHLCWjjv5eZI1WTgE= Received: by 10.78.188.10 with SMTP id l10mr904209huf.53.1211908145341; Tue, 27 May 2008 10:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.149.16 with HTTP; Tue, 27 May 2008 10:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6be12b1d0805271009q5e02e5f6u58bef67d6d75443@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 12:09:05 -0500 From: "Ray Seals" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD 7.0 and DummyNet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 17:35:41 -0000 It's been a long time since I have tried to get dummynet working. I have a FreeBSD 7.0 box ready to go. Do I still need to recompile the kernel and all that stuff or is there any easier way to do this now? -- Ray Seals ----------------------------------------- Office: 314-594-0150 (St. Louis Area) 866-875-8863 (toll free) Fax: 253-681-9982 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 17:56:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 370F8106564A for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 17:56:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Drk@pcomptech.com) Received: from pcomptech.com (static-74-41-9-114.dsl1.elk.ca.frontiernet.net [74.41.9.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F6B8FC23 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 17:56:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Drk@pcomptech.com) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C8C021.1B9D211B" Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:43:01 -0700 Message-ID: <7CA15F547C84C148999461D49C8E710A0FBABB@pct01.PCT.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Version 5.4 Thread-Index: AcjAIRus4tGTDQPbT+Wvrq08tbW/rA== From: "Dennis Kirschling" To: X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Version 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 17:56:51 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8C021.1B9D211B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=20 =20 I have a customer running BSD that has been informed that he needs to upgrade his Apache product. I have a wealth of experience with SCO products but very little with BSD. The Apache that they are operating now is version 2.0.55? I don't have the knowledge to look into installed products or where I would gather the Apache upgrade and the installation instructions. If you can point me to any info regarding this upgrade I sure would appreciate it! =20 Thanks you! =20 Dennis Kirschling Office 916 714-1002 Cell 916 825-3737 drk@pcomptech.com =20 =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8C021.1B9D211B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 17:57:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF02106564A for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 17:57:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-159.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-159.bluehost.com [67.222.39.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1CEAA8FC22 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 17:57:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 14368 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 2008 17:57:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 27 May 2008 17:57:37 -0000 Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K13QW-0007f8-SH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 May 2008 11:57:37 -0600 Received: by demeter.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 27 May 2008 11:57:36 -0600 Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:57:36 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20080527175736.GA64983@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} DomainKey-Status: no signature Subject: like sSMTP, but with alternate config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 17:57:38 -0000 --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found this in the sSMTP manpage today: -Cfile (ignored) Use alternate configuration file. Is there something substantially like sSMTP in ports that allows use of alternate configuration files, rather than just accepting and ignoring sendmail options for alternate configuration files? --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Isaac Asimov: "Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is completely programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest." --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkg8S5AACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXOJgCeLm99+feVTHDEzwXwJOxF14RB hd8AoMqMhJZxYmUMqDb/xCJu7EYDBA8c =e3bC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 18:11:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E571065686 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 18:11:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from web52101.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52101.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D1A388FC28 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 18:11:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 1880 invoked by uid 60001); 27 May 2008 18:11:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=bACN56QGY/X5E9pw0ljjr+kSNsdbzxZiFNNn2ZCkX6LjW3RfO+W7q+HofjzmpesJ3y+Sf3kOyB6J6JSLPf9TNX8HKuONQ2OFsCr5v65seodzMkT7/ctg/fjb3AV3LeoYnmSkhl3d4y6h4AE8elOE1DU2ugcAlF/+cDlQT+bXNxg=; X-YMail-OSG: OtTWWEMVM1mgYXH7IpTBoDMLHz413rq226mzs4yeUyEDyaWAfY3KgnpPx4tfKfGcjgg1mjti.SM1Z8R0QFPmEIXpA9YQOcefCJxI Received: from [70.190.145.127] by web52101.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 27 May 2008 11:11:27 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/975.41 YahooMailWebService/0.7.185 Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:11:27 -0700 (PDT) From: gahn To: Scot Hetzel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <658053.1394.qm@web52101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd security , freebsd general questions Subject: Re: freebsd and snort X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 18:11:29 -0000 Thanks. greatly appreciated. Best ----- Original Message ---- From: Scot Hetzel To: gahn Cc: freebsd general questions ; freebsd security Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 12:57:38 AM Subject: Re: freebsd and snort On 5/27/08, gahn wrote: > Hello all: > > I tried to install snort under /usr/ports/security and have some problems. with "make all", I checked every item on the menu but I got error messages: > > ////////////////////////////// > > laptop# make all > ===> snort-2.8.1_1 is marked as broken: FLEXRESP2 patch file does not incorporate cleanly. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/security/snort. > > /////////////////////////////// > > tried "make distclean" and it didn't seem to help to clear the problem. Looked at the timestamps on the files and I don't see any files modified by the command "make all" > > could anyone help me on this? > Use "make config" to bring up the Options screen, and check FLEXRESP and uncheck FLEXRESP2. Scot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 18:15:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C52E10656A9 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 18:15:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from camiloreyes82@yahoo.com) Received: from web63912.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web63912.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.97.127]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C7D918FC0C for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 18:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from camiloreyes82@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 42920 invoked by uid 60001); 27 May 2008 18:15:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=IxUK9h0vrAqlxuEbOFcjbFZfpx/cLy6GsFmkGWqR4FsVvhQlA7I7E81+B5da+L3WyBoM4GHZssu4hASe5fDbE75NukEH3QANJ866v9NdL6A2yOgbcxx7WcwfHA0+4+34BuSuFyeagcMviK+TzGGwCb7Lh2TnkdyYcZTHN/L0DYY=; X-YMail-OSG: qZ3YcCQVM1l6VNGtwoKpRdap.NuKJoPWk69fglEp_0NOnCurvnUK1juOXoIBrLv135k4NlBcwHzGfo7krN1nV0Wub7gqvnCexHCd7Q-- Received: from [146.23.68.42] by web63912.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 27 May 2008 11:15:13 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/975.41 YahooMailWebService/0.7.185 Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:15:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Camilo Reyes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <1692.42766.qm@web63912.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 217, Issue 4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 18:15:15 -0000 > Mark Ovens writes:=0A>=0A>>=A0 The advantage of building a custom kernel = is ...=0A>=0A>=A0=A0 There are others.=0A>=A0=A0=A0 If I understand correct= ly, space for the kernel (code and data)=0A> is allocated once at initial s= ystem load.=A0 Smaller code portion =3D>=0A> more space for data.=0A>=A0=A0= =A0 Second, fewer components =3D> fewer interactions =3D> fewer=0A> possibl= e points of failure.=0A>=A0=A0=A0 And, _anecdotally_, smaller kernels are f= aster.=A0 I haven't=0A> tested in a few years, but it used to be enough fas= ter you could=0A> tell it with the naked eye.=0A>=0A>=0A>=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0= =A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 Robert Huff=0A=0ANot to mention added security.=0A-= Camilo=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 18:16:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2161065682 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 18:16:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from camiloreyes82@yahoo.com) Received: from web63913.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web63913.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.97.128]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B3A678FC0A for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 18:15:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from camiloreyes82@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 85978 invoked by uid 60001); 27 May 2008 17:49:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=fQkpvR0rNHEfVGcClwR4PAITIYr5gXJFmOwLIE06CWADwnzWqjPlWr0bxbCrO8S4lzN1qk4viLs0OFHnOE/3vJJhLfPilKT+NjuPTzfUNCDWdjOk56yZAI+1s9fRSzoMKBmwB9+Ns2c21Hn4BgdTIGvdoSgh/wXuSQtF8/hQ3wA=; X-YMail-OSG: z6Z.LhAVM1n6BPV9YedRMlNDlybiw26UPFOR6K2ei5XGj4fZOpu5WYaUo4bfeK2JZ5MuMK3jHWyQ Received: from [146.23.68.42] by web63913.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 27 May 2008 10:49:18 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/975.41 YahooMailWebService/0.7.185 Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:49:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Camilo Reyes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <852213.85661.qm@web63913.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: freebsd and snort X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 18:16:00 -0000 > On 5/27/08, gahn wrote:=0A> Hello all:=0A>=0A>=A0 I t= ried to install snort under /usr/ports/security and have some problems. wit= h "make all", I checked every item on the menu but I got error messages:=0A= >=0A>=A0 //////////////////////////////=0A>=0A>=A0 laptop# make all=0A>=A0 = =3D=3D=3D>=A0 snort-2.8.1_1 is marked as broken: FLEXRESP2 patch file does = not incorporate cleanly.=0A>=A0 *** Error code 1=0A>=0A>=A0 Stop in /usr/po= rts/security/snort.=0A>=0A>=A0 ///////////////////////////////=0A>=0A>=A0 t= ried "make distclean" and it didn't seem to help to clear the problem. Look= ed at the timestamps on the files and I don't see any files modified by the= command "make all"=0A>=0A>=A0 could anyone help me on this?=0A>=0A> Use "m= ake config" to bring up the Options screen, and check FLEXRESP=0A> and unch= eck FLEXRESP2.=0A>=0A> Scot=0A=0AOr do: vi Makefile. Then edit anything tha= t has FLEXRESP2 on it.=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 18:19:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 034F0106566B for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 18:19:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nec556@retena.com) Received: from resmaa09.ono.com (mta.auna.com [62.42.230.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFD68FC1C for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 18:19:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nec556@retena.com) Received: from argente-2005.retena.com (83.173.185.154) by resmaa09.ono.com (7.3.118.8) (authenticated as nec556@retena.com) id 47FF309003066DF9; Tue, 27 May 2008 20:08:02 +0200 Message-ID: <47FF309003066DF9@> (added by postmaster@resmaa09.ono.com) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 20:07:53 +0200 To: Mustela From: Eduardo Morras In-Reply-To: <4837FF86.2000001@yahoo.es> References: <4837FF86.2000001@yahoo.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: News in Spanish X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 18:19:47 -0000 At 13:44 24/05/2008, you wrote: > Hello. I'm FreeBSD user. Very days ago, I verified that the news > (what's new) in spanish is not up to date (the last is 1999!!) Why? > Link: [1]http://www.freebsd.org/es/news/press.html#story200802:02 > Very thanks. > Pd:If is possible, please, reply in spanish. Good Morning Mustela. I see no one has answered you. There is a maillist at doc@es.freebsd.org where you can ask. You can do it at the main Spanish maillist too. In both list you must be a member to post. You can sign up at: (see links below) Muy Buenas Mustela. Veo que nadie te ha respondido. Hay una lista de correo en doc@es.freebsd.org donde puedes preguntar. Tambien puedes hacerlo en la lista de correo de FreeBsd en castellano. Ambas listas necesitan que estes apuntado/a para poder mandar mensajes. 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HTH -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an imaginary part -Andrew Koenig From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 18:19:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9941065727 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 18:19:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35488FC1C for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 18:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from crab.unsane.co.uk (crab.unsane.co.uk [10.0.0.111]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m4RIJOs8033989 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 27 May 2008 19:19:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <483C50B2.60201@unsane.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 19:19:30 +0100 From: Vince Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080507) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray Seals References: <6be12b1d0805271009q5e02e5f6u58bef67d6d75443@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6be12b1d0805271009q5e02e5f6u58bef67d6d75443@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 and DummyNet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 18:19:58 -0000 Ray Seals wrote: > It's been a long time since I have tried to get dummynet working. I have a > FreeBSD 7.0 box ready to go. Do I still need to recompile the kernel and > all that stuff or is there any easier way to do this now? > I tend to use pf/altq but dummynet and ipfw seem to exist as modules root@crab (19:09:46 ) 0 # ls /boot/kernel/dummynet.ko /boot/kernel/dummynet.ko* root@crab (19:10:08 ) 0 # ls /boot/kernel/ipfw.ko /boot/kernel/ipfw.ko* so kldload dummynet && kldload ipfw should do the job. Vince From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 18:23:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A168A1065814 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 18:23:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4AE8FC16 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 18:23:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from crab.unsane.co.uk (crab.unsane.co.uk [10.0.0.111]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m4RIMata034062 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 27 May 2008 19:22:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <483C5172.4030607@unsane.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 19:22:42 +0100 From: Vince Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080507) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray Seals References: <6be12b1d0805271009q5e02e5f6u58bef67d6d75443@mail.gmail.com> <483C50B2.60201@unsane.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <483C50B2.60201@unsane.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 and DummyNet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 18:23:09 -0000 Vince Hoffman wrote: > Ray Seals wrote: >> It's been a long time since I have tried to get dummynet working. I >> have a >> FreeBSD 7.0 box ready to go. Do I still need to recompile the kernel and >> all that stuff or is there any easier way to do this now? >> > I tend to use pf/altq but dummynet and ipfw seem to exist as modules > > root@crab > (19:09:46 ) 0 # ls /boot/kernel/dummynet.ko > /boot/kernel/dummynet.ko* > root@crab > (19:10:08 ) 0 # ls /boot/kernel/ipfw.ko > /boot/kernel/ipfw.ko* > > so > kldload dummynet && kldload ipfw > should do the job. > Oh and remember that if you do just kldload ipfw (like i just did to test) it defaults to deny all ;) Vince > Vince > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 18:32:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBE61065677 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 18:32:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DDC8FC1C for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 18:32:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m34so1097592ele.13 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 11:32:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=1Mr/kf2tM0fFzxGlY1VJj1b09u3m6EuKvmuqMqcz2oI=; b=wuIq8RWSkXsRFHx0Y+w8c1fJUm4g/sI//fIYHzOFCrJwOukTi21Z/WwQrsV+ZnObsgJrcxc+9booIbeS8KWRu7z9e2kR9CiE5FKLpDI9rrC1oZftecFlSDx5EAeCdqq0GxlScF05XuYzpmRNtotY28eRjha5JapabOJVhlEOsIM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=p42OxtaXDM/0EFcuw2oQcxcdhtDhCdj82yOs2dYnxXz8niWOWKg0ZdLX8VdI348UlugiyTyycBC6+DPwdqXzHYDKHv9oGK7Qha/btjW2iOS0s7QjbC4J+mN3H19p92j4DoZvOBYB7jqskhm7Vbep7rP4CaYHi/YszJWQxm3j9JU= Received: by 10.142.179.12 with SMTP id b12mr620241wff.249.1211911524484; Tue, 27 May 2008 11:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.188.13 with HTTP; Tue, 27 May 2008 11:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57d710000805271105x5a01ec26x9db567450923655b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:05:24 -0700 From: "pete wright" To: "Dennis Kirschling" In-Reply-To: <7CA15F547C84C148999461D49C8E710A0FBABB@pct01.PCT.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7CA15F547C84C148999461D49C8E710A0FBABB@pct01.PCT.local> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Version 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 18:32:31 -0000 On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Dennis Kirschling wrote: > Hi, > > > > I have a customer running BSD that has been informed that he needs to > upgrade his Apache product. I have a wealth of experience with SCO > products but very little with BSD. The Apache that they are operating > now is version 2.0.55? I don't have the knowledge to look into > installed products or where I would gather the Apache upgrade and the > installation instructions. If you can point me to any info regarding > this upgrade I sure would appreciate it! > > The FreeBSD product has excellent documentation. The best place to start is here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ Regarding your current task, the section on "ports" is probably the most helpful. It looks like you will have to upgrade the Apache port that is currently installed. Is there a specific version of the Apache web server that is needed? FreeBSD supports many different versions of the Apache webserver - yet the ports system makes installing, and updating, these applications very easy. Hope this helps, -pete -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 19:30:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7205B106564A for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 19:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mustelator@yahoo.es) Received: from out09.wanadoo.es (out09.wanadoo.es [62.36.20.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050168FC0A for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 19:30:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mustelator@yahoo.es) Received: from [85.58.95.205] (helo=[192.168.0.5]) by out09.wanadoo.es with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1K14sF-0004bH-QB for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 27 May 2008 21:30:20 +0200 Message-ID: <483C614B.5000107@yahoo.es> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:30:19 +0200 From: Mustela User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <4837FF86.2000001@yahoo.es> <47FF309003066DF9@> (added by postmaster@resmaa09.ono.com) In-Reply-To: <47FF309003066DF9@> (added by postmaster@resmaa09.ono.com) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-login: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: News in Spanish X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 19:30:24 -0000 Hola, Gábor, Simon y Eduardo. Pues Eduardo, debo confesar que con tu respuesta ya son tres... ¡estoy sorprendido, la verdad! A ver, os comento que me gustaría pertenecer a la comunidad BSD para hacer traducciones y otras cosas (eso sí, al español), pero el tiempo me lo impide y nunca he hecho estas cosas de pertenecer a comunidades. No sé qué he de hacer y tampoco soy un serio programador. Me dedico a la administración de servidores y cuando llego a casa, aparte de hacer obras, me apetece descansar, jejeje. No obstante, si veo que tengo un tiempo para dedicarme a traducción no me cabrá la menor duda de apoyaros y ponerme manos a la obra. Gracias a todos por vuestro interés. Eduardo Morras escribió: At 13:44 24/05/2008, you wrote: Hello. I'm FreeBSD user. Very days ago, I verified that the news (what's new) in spanish is not up to date (the last is 1999!!) Why? Link: [1][1]http://www.freebsd.org/es/news/press.html#story200802:02 Very thanks. Pd:If is possible, please, reply in spanish. Good Morning Mustela. I see no one has answered you. There is a maillist at [2]doc@es.freebsd.org where you can ask. You can do it at the main Spanish maillist too. In both list you must be a member to post. You can sign up at: (see links below) Muy Buenas Mustela. Veo que nadie te ha respondido. Hay una lista de correo en [3]doc@es.freebsd.org donde puedes preguntar. Tambien puedes hacerlo en la lista de correo de FreeBsd en castellano. Ambas listas necesitan que estes apuntado/a para poder mandar mensajes. Puedes darte de alta en [4]https://listas.es.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd o mandando un mensaje a [5]mailto:freebsd-request@es.freebsd.org?subject=subscribe para freebsd en castellano [6]mailto:doc-request@es.freebsd.org?subject=subscribe para la lista de documentacion. HTH ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an imaginary part -Andrew Koenig References 1. http://www.freebsd.org/es/news/press.html#story200802:02 2. mailto:doc@es.freebsd.org 3. mailto:doc@es.freebsd.org 4. https://listas.es.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd 5. mailto:freebsd-request@es.freebsd.org?subject=subscribe 6. mailto:doc-request@es.freebsd.org?subject=subscribe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 19:40:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6904106564A for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 19:40:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E188FC16 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 19:40:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so1621767wra.13 for ; 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( [71.39.93.58]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z15sm16425390pod.13.2008.05.27.13.21.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 27 May 2008 13:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <483C6D5E.20501@aaronholmes.net> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 13:21:50 -0700 From: Aaron Holmes User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Setting quotas on nested directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 20:22:00 -0000 Hello all, I want to set quotas on nested directories; ie: /mnt/docs has the directories "legal" and "IT" I want to limit "legal" to 50GB. How can this be done, if at all? From my googleing, it looks like any filesystems you want to apply quotas need to be be 1) in /etc/fstab and 2) mounted Thanks, Aaron Holmes From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 21:26:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D861065673 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 21:26:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609948FC18 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 21:26:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4RLQcQg086545 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 16:26:38 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) id m4RLQcAq086542; Tue, 27 May 2008 16:26:38 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 16:26:38 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Aaron Holmes Message-ID: <20080527212637.GE5582@dan.emsphone.com> References: <483C6D5E.20501@aaronholmes.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <483C6D5E.20501@aaronholmes.net> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setting quotas on nested directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:26:39 -0000 In the last episode (May 27), Aaron Holmes said: > Hello all, > I want to set quotas on nested directories; ie: /mnt/docs has the > directories "legal" and "IT" > I want to limit "legal" to 50GB. How can this be done, if at all? > From my googleing, it looks like any filesystems you want to apply > quotas need to be be 1) in /etc/fstab and 2) mounted Quotas on UFS are set at either the user- or the group-ID level, not on directories themselves. So you could create a group named "legal", then "chgrp -R legal /mnt/docs/legal", and run "edquota -g legal" to set a 50GB quota on files in the "legal" group. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/quotas.html describes how to set up the system to enable quotas. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 21:43:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CA31065678 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 21:43:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lc-words.com) Received: from relay.lc-words.com (relay.lc-words.com [62.121.130.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B5D78FC19 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 21:43:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lc-words.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65927C9424 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 23:43:01 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=lc-words.com; s=mainlcwords; t=1211924581; bh=n4rqA6+kSxh23NsbKabi6h1rEA15jIwk3Th y31Thcak=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DK3CrblN8Ufdutk+y+sDVPac rnYpEf+Qp5T8xDlz3bjjl7CI+WM84kr8wkl3I/wgLvRHyURmqfj33rf80yXC0azUKgr 4yxsk9urvakmXB6Wv5YgiV8tBNmjxXuCfHUtSeQrXvM6D4lBt9it49v/CFbvLoF392P h1Og/uDUZ3IHw= Received: from relay.lc-words.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay.lc-words.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 79185-10 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 23:43:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (77-254-167-21.adsl.inetia.pl [77.254.167.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: z.szalbot@lc-words.com) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F3E88C941E for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 23:43:00 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <483C8060.2070003@lc-words.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 23:42:56 +0200 From: Zbigniew Szalbot User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard Subject: dump and remote file fetching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: z.szalbot@lc-words.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:43:03 -0000 Hello, Need a word of advice. I use dump to backup my data. All fine. Dump saves compressed *.bz2 files. Nice. All I need now is a way to copy them from the server to a remote backup machine. The problem I am facing is that bz2 files are owned by root:wheel. So if I use scp user@domain.tld:/path/to/*.bz2, it does not have sufficient permissions to fetch the files. I can use sudo, but then I need to interactively type the password, which I would like to avoid. Can you suggest simple ways of getting around this? I don't mind using special tools for the job, especially if they are not too complicated... :) Before firing this email off I took a look at rsync and it seems easy enough to do just what I need but still many thanks for suggestions! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.lc-words.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 01:58:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C713D106566B for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 01:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalpin@muliahost.com) Received: from smtp.velo.net.id (smtp2-out.velo.net.id [203.153.99.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EBB88FC0C for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 01:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalpin@muliahost.com) Received: from localhost (batubulan.net2cyber.net [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.velo.net.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13DFA810150 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:36:17 +0700 (WIT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at velo.net.id Received: from smtp.velo.net.id ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (seminyak.velo.net.id [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Faf+0QCFG5VH for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:36:16 +0700 (WIT) Received: from [203.153.106.5] (unknown [203.153.106.5]) by smtp.velo.net.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E0981014C for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:36:15 +0700 (WIT) Message-ID: <483CB6F3.5040505@muliahost.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 08:35:47 +0700 From: Kalpin Erlangga Silaen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Survive from DDoS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 01:58:24 -0000 Dear all, yesterday, our shell server was attack and server immeditiately reboot. 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Thank you Kalpin Erlangga Silaen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 02:18:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7039C1065671 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 02:18:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F758FC16 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 02:18:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7DA168A354 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 22:59:14 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 34060-02 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 22:59:06 -0300 (ADT) Received: from fserv.hub.org (blk-224-204-104.eastlink.ca [24.224.204.104]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4513F168A34D for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 22:59:12 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [192.168.1.2]) by fserv.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4574BAD1 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 22:59:16 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 22:56:55 -0300 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <9A8B941DE58060D25F514F0D@ganymede.hub.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 02:18:32 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Does anyone know of anyone make an enterprise level router based off of FreeBSD? - -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkg8u+cACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvMF8wCg25K5IaX4/DIHk8KFIAfKXe/b decAoOqllLM7c6ty7wwXcwuPlEk/xSo6 =O+GR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 02:28:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA1E1065679 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 02:28:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitche@kitchetech.com) Received: from rt06.vds2000.com (s6.n225.vds2000.com [64.6.225.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7368FC2E for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 02:28:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitche@kitchetech.com) Received: from pool-72-65-6-48.bflony.east.verizon.net ([72.65.6.48]:55692 helo=localhost) by rt06.vds2000.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K1BIf-0008By-Db; Tue, 27 May 2008 22:22:01 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 22:28:35 -0400 From: Matthew Donovan To: "Marc G. Fournier" Message-ID: <20080528022835.GA1147@njord.Belkin> References: <9A8B941DE58060D25F514F0D@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9A8B941DE58060D25F514F0D@ganymede.hub.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rt06.vds2000.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kitchetech.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 02:28:46 -0000 --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:56:55PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 >=20 >=20 > Does anyone know of anyone make an enterprise level router based off of F= reeBSD? >=20 > - --=20 > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.or= g) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) >=20 > iEYEARECAAYFAkg8u+cACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvMF8wCg25K5IaX4/DIHk8KFIAfKXe/b > decAoOqllLM7c6ty7wwXcwuPlEk/xSo6 > =3DO+GR > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" Juniptor makes routers based on freebsd. Sorry for the spelling really it's= incorrect for the company name but you can just look up theri site if you = want to pay for it really good from what I have heard. --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkg8w1MACgkQCyI5DJQdxQ8uCQCeMrbFWVywP3gGKFvNIiCh34N4 r5EAnR5C0qg8830t09Cu0cHY58uhKx3C =Yc+1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 02:32:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E04B1065674 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 02:32:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD888FC18 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 02:32:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so2015924tid.3 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 19:32:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=R7GBRmQvKDWHV9iB+6aTYtBGXFYvB0JaImt1iQ/5mgI=; b=mfmPBbstM7vmRhNoDnCPiq+K1fR48cfsF0YFnB0CXr81JrcQ05CXecRhl34GZr0e14Hp4yGDew8H65+KbOCV37zlImeSehJHp3bp5cR6wWoFloXgopKeCYxL8Bu3Pcw0kj4PaXlKJzsuUsWrDtmjfJ3i8A07kjs/a5OUmQtKOqI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=a0rpim1gbge7VI6zqAKXg2/70f2No2qxMtcweyDtY1ivy8AFwqOke6qkbUrlOMacoX+bjTM1YlSQKmQiCcz6bvrEl3E/qaTKOqXTTXaLvjA0g9iuYXUcKlBPp7mB0MzRsCpYp9+0pwJWO7QJtMUD4FFUxpjRgr0oAlLv50jqSN8= Received: by 10.110.37.17 with SMTP id k17mr285792tik.13.1211941949930; Tue, 27 May 2008 19:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.53.11 with HTTP; Tue, 27 May 2008 19:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5635aa0d0805271932y551db8c6x61947cff51fa3cac@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:32:29 +0700 From: "Outback Dingo" To: "Matthew Donovan" In-Reply-To: <20080528022835.GA1147@njord.Belkin> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9A8B941DE58060D25F514F0D@ganymede.hub.org> <20080528022835.GA1147@njord.Belkin> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 02:32:32 -0000 That would be Juniper On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Matthew Donovan wrote: > On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:56:55PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > Does anyone know of anyone make an enterprise level router based off of > FreeBSD? > > > > - -- > > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. ( > http://www.hub.org) > > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . > scrappy@hub.org > > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) > > > > iEYEARECAAYFAkg8u+cACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvMF8wCg25K5IaX4/DIHk8KFIAfKXe/b > > decAoOqllLM7c6ty7wwXcwuPlEk/xSo6 > > =O+GR > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Juniptor makes routers based on freebsd. Sorry for the spelling really it's > incorrect for the company name but you can just look up theri site if you > want to pay for it really good from what I have heard. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 02:38:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D82106566C for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 02:38:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D718FC14 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 02:38:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl63-243.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.190.243]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-1) with ESMTP id m4S2beT7012215 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 28 May 2008 05:37:47 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4S2beRx027155; Wed, 28 May 2008 05:37:40 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m4S2bdcu027154; Wed, 28 May 2008 05:37:39 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Matthew Donovan References: <9A8B941DE58060D25F514F0D@ganymede.hub.org> <20080528022835.GA1147@njord.Belkin> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 05:37:38 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20080528022835.GA1147@njord.Belkin> (Matthew Donovan's message of "Tue, 27 May 2008 22:28:35 -0400") Message-ID: <87hccjm9vx.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: m4S2beT7012215 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.824, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.57, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 02:38:32 -0000 On Tue, 27 May 2008 22:28:35 -0400, Matthew Donovan wrote: > On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:56:55PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> Does anyone know of anyone make an enterprise level router based off of FreeBSD? > > Juniptor makes routers based on freebsd. Sorry for the spelling really > it's incorrect for the company name but you can just look up theri > site if you want to pay for it really good from what I have heard. The correct spelling of the name is 'Juniper'. You are right of course. Juniper develops high-end routers. They're very very good at it too :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 04:03:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89F0106566C for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 04:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B5A8FC12 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 04:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2304773wfg.7 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 21:03:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Ov1mfSM7nHlxu0BICKlyYdtmNdc7sB4M5DqEmOuAiAU=; b=wYCjVYCHrzFnPTOzy/IVSngDpLvXvQamkK4/Bml+gox24JVY31GwtbD2UFDbZCBJPH7v7Ig5yHCRbRzRbYmN9sBeuMd6RSTxiGjrYnGhWpQOR/5hefKGYys2/dyAzFWoA2WwQ01PPD8FEWTcouf4DrYZ+RsazwrFO7X/2MNg06Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=np9sEccMcxqjzWJFVQC1yfxPo240CGKOAQlUPYNmKj8ccKa2hSUw0tEesgQmq0EPS9Jbij4ZESH6i14k9ls/V89Vj+3u9eLx4bzwnFMkV0OaN7JN/pF6SgT6ayRLIwYEhc2K3pT/bmVwAvgZWNKHyUmxHsjWFQbgK3/cYxqG48w= Received: by 10.143.16.9 with SMTP id t9mr832657wfi.164.1211947401023; Tue, 27 May 2008 21:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.87.9 with HTTP; Tue, 27 May 2008 21:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:03:20 -0700 From: "Kurt Buff" To: "Marc G. Fournier" In-Reply-To: <9A8B941DE58060D25F514F0D@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9A8B941DE58060D25F514F0D@ganymede.hub.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 04:03:21 -0000 On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Does anyone know of anyone make an enterprise level router based off of FreeBSD? > > - -- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkg8u+cACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvMF8wCg25K5IaX4/DIHk8KFIAfKXe/b > decAoOqllLM7c6ty7wwXcwuPlEk/xSo6 > =O+GR > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Where are you heading with your question? I'm in the middle of putting together a router with a white box and 3 NICs (onboard, add-in Intel, and a Sangoma A301), doing BGP4 with a DS3 and a T1. It'll be running FreeBSD 7.0, and probably OpenBGP or quagga. I'm having to learn the BGP stuff from scratch, but I've got people to put questions to, including the ISPs. I suppose, though, that this doesn't meet your definition of 'enterprise level'. Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 06:54:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D411065674 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 06:54:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lc-words.com) Received: from relay.lc-words.com (relay.lc-words.com [62.121.130.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2348FC19 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 06:53:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lc-words.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9792C9423; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:53:57 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=lc-words.com; s=mainlcwords; t=1211957638; bh=QeycntntoCyW2Fu/EW6q0Z0I7tC/ZVCHnuK 29MII0qc=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:MIME-Version:To:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=E 9coM39kc42nUWTYS7S/D6G69oWI2AMBMIkIofA6kyNdUh61NFd2ZQCCuUdHMPzEwDJP OLmxoHCtZh/V43b7bctrUwo6cFEGldjlA87aVqQiJCgc2zKP3hU9gfdxdd80ENIVG5o bAGdfozNZkhAtqkNya5cpTdKBrJyiGTavYKY= Received: from relay.lc-words.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay.lc-words.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 77352-09; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:53:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cxw210.internetdsl.tpnet.pl [83.19.156.210]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: z.szalbot@lc-words.com) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6EA27C941E; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:53:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <483D0181.5010605@lc-words.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 08:53:53 +0200 From: Zbigniew Szalbot User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Zimmerman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483C8060.2070003@lc-words.com> <483C87F0.9030803@mikestammer.com> In-Reply-To: <483C87F0.9030803@mikestammer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard Cc: Subject: Re: dump and remote file fetching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: z.szalbot@lc-words.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 06:54:00 -0000 Hi there, >> Need a word of advice. I use dump to backup my data. All fine. Dump >> saves compressed *.bz2 files. Nice. All I need now is a way to copy them >> from the server to a remote backup machine. The problem I am facing is >> that bz2 files are owned by root:wheel. So if I use scp >> user@domain.tld:/path/to/*.bz2, it does not have sufficient permissions >> to fetch the files. I can use sudo, but then I need to interactively >> type the password, which I would like to avoid. >> >> Can you suggest simple ways of getting around this? I don't mind using >> special tools for the job, especially if they are not too complicated... :) >> >> Before firing this email off I took a look at rsync and it seems easy >> enough to do just what I need but still many thanks for suggestions! > > I have been very happy with rsnapshot. Take that for a spin and see how > it works for you I have taken a look at rsnapshot but it seems I am left to deal with the same problem: From their page: In addition to full paths on the local filesystem, you can also backup remote systems using rsync over ssh. If you have ssh installed and enabled (via the cmd_ssh parameter), you can specify a path like: backup root@example.com:/etc/ example.com/ This behaves fundamentally the same way, but you must take a few extra things into account. a/ The ssh daemon must be running on example.com b/ You must have access to the account you specify the remote machine, in this case the root user on example.com. I do not allow remote root login so what are my options in that case? How do you deal with such a scenario? Many thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.lc-words.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 07:37:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F15E106566B; Wed, 28 May 2008 07:37:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tataz@tataz.chchile.org) Received: from postfix2-g20.free.fr (postfix2-g20.free.fr [212.27.60.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F94F8FC12; Wed, 28 May 2008 07:37:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tataz@tataz.chchile.org) Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (smtp5-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.35]) by postfix2-g20.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE2226AD996; Wed, 28 May 2008 07:19:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8BEC3F61D3; Wed, 28 May 2008 09:20:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tatooine.tataz.chchile.org (tataz.chchile.org [82.233.239.98]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2C43F6168; Wed, 28 May 2008 09:20:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from obiwan.tataz.chchile.org (unknown [192.168.1.25]) by tatooine.tataz.chchile.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23AF09B497; Wed, 28 May 2008 07:16:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obiwan.tataz.chchile.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0554F4089; Wed, 28 May 2008 09:16:55 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:16:54 +0200 From: Jeremie Le Hen To: Yani Brankov Message-ID: <20080528071654.GH80973@obiwan.tataz.chchile.org> References: <4831A0A5.6040808@bulinfo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4831A0A5.6040808@bulinfo.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, performance@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Low/Jerky performance in FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 07:37:02 -0000 On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 08:45:41AM -0700, Yani Brankov wrote: > I recently updated to FreeBSD 7 and noticed that my box started to perform > as windows does under heavier loads. The mouse starts to be jerky when > compiling, window updates/redraws are slow and bump the CPU usage up to > 100%. I attributed this to the mga driver which comes with the distro in the > beginning. However, I later noticed the same happens even when X has not > been started. For instance, I start a kernel compile and the console mouse > becomes jumpy. All these have never happened before with FreeBSD on this > box. It has enough memory (1.5G) and relatively fast CPU (2.5GHz). I started > to think this may be originating from kernel level (irq handling, long times > in giant locked code during syscalls, etc). > > I am wondering whether it is only me who has hit this problem or it is more > common. It may be also related to hardware configuration, etc. I'm trying to > figure out. Try profiling your kernel with PMC: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2006-February/061096.html Regards, -- Jeremie Le Hen < jeremie at le-hen dot org >< ttz at chchile dot org > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 07:55:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F29106566C for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 07:55:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C858FC0A for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 07:55:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4S7t9wc008882; Wed, 28 May 2008 09:55:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m4S7t7Yg008879; Wed, 28 May 2008 09:55:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:55:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "Marc G. Fournier" In-Reply-To: <9A8B941DE58060D25F514F0D@ganymede.hub.org> Message-ID: <20080528095456.F8870@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <9A8B941DE58060D25F514F0D@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 07:55:17 -0000 > Does anyone know of anyone make an enterprise level router based off of FreeBSD? define what "enterprise level router" is > > - -- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkg8u+cACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvMF8wCg25K5IaX4/DIHk8KFIAfKXe/b > decAoOqllLM7c6ty7wwXcwuPlEk/xSo6 > =O+GR > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 08:12:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1709010656C7 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:12:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from i.tanusheff@procreditbank.bg) Received: from mail.procreditbank.bg (mail.procreditbank.bg [193.26.216.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E538C8FC12 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:12:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from i.tanusheff@procreditbank.bg) Received: (qmail 4658 invoked from network); 28 May 2008 11:28:59 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO domino.procreditbank.bg) (10.0.0.15) by 192.168.1.3 with SMTP; 28 May 2008 11:28:59 +0300 In-Reply-To: <483CB6F3.5040505@muliahost.com> To: Kalpin Erlangga Silaen MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0.2 September 26, 2006 From: Ivailo Tanusheff Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:12:26 +0300 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on DOMINO/BULGARIA/PROCREDITBANK(Release 7.0.2FP2|May 14, 2007) at 28.05.2008 11:12:26, Serialize complete at 28.05.2008 11:12:26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Survive from DDoS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 08:12:34 -0000 Hi, you may use ipf to drop packets from the attacking host I suppose. Or even limit the packets to the specified port. Regards, Ivailo Tanusheff Kalpin Erlangga Silaen Sent by: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 28.05.2008 05:01 To "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" cc Subject Survive from DDoS Dear all, yesterday, our shell server was attack and server immeditiately reboot. I checked logs, it likes UDP flood with destination port 53. Is there any way how to survive from this kind attack? Also, is there any url/resources to improve our shell server? Thank you Kalpin Erlangga Silaen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 08:32:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061AA106564A; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:32:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalpin@muliahost.com) Received: from smtp.velo.net.id (smtp2-out.velo.net.id [203.153.99.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A9B18FC22; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:32:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalpin@muliahost.com) Received: from localhost (batubulan.net2cyber.net [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.velo.net.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29DB58101AE; Wed, 28 May 2008 15:32:15 +0700 (WIT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at velo.net.id Received: from smtp.velo.net.id ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (seminyak.velo.net.id [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2fdix5IJmuci; Wed, 28 May 2008 15:32:14 +0700 (WIT) Received: from [203.153.106.5] (ip-5-106-net.express.net.id [203.153.106.5]) by smtp.velo.net.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDF48101D0; Wed, 28 May 2008 15:32:13 +0700 (WIT) Message-ID: <483D188C.3050007@muliahost.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:32:12 +0700 From: Kalpin Erlangga Silaen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ivailo Tanusheff References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Survive from DDoS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 08:32:17 -0000 Dear Ivailo, thank you for your response. I am using ipfw to limit all packets for all open port in my server. But the packet size was 600 Mbps which could not filtered by our ISP. Ivailo Tanusheff wrote: > Hi, > > you may use ipf to drop packets from the attacking host I suppose. Or even > limit the packets to the specified port. > > Regards, > > Ivailo Tanusheff > > > > > Kalpin Erlangga Silaen > Sent by: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > 28.05.2008 05:01 > > To > "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" > cc > > Subject > Survive from DDoS > > > > > > > Dear all, > > yesterday, our shell server was attack and server immeditiately reboot. > I checked logs, it likes UDP flood with destination port 53. Is there > any way how to survive from this kind attack? Also, is there any > url/resources to improve our shell server? > > Thank you > > > Kalpin Erlangga Silaen > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 09:16:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C080D106564A for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 09:16:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA298FC1F for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 09:16:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1739879ywe.13 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 02:16:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=0Zpgp3IgwzD1ZUaFwJsii+l4Emy5XicvV8PnYQTrxvc=; b=UWXhe6wiWGmTWzAppzy7Lm/ayEOXnTxIDvC0YIXxKM33A+KN27Xej23qE0eRpXMXTzKtZKXVEt4VMUixYUxytl8+Vf8k00XmqIHqYD9/Lkf7MLmtNd43LE1QqNyqnOaIhT1KNfG1Lnkbq72ldD6T+q+s8BlP4B6sZyNFEUsr6wE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=xtMkW4/Ewk5wcwOyqFWP7NXpi2xEVl6pSyJuCRCiPCFPlxW7N+RUhZNGkJ06ofyqK6UoZxjObqC8UphDKkjUArci15Hdw5+DnKENcTT7ZgPd2GC0mUjMT4SkO8hCeGa01cXwijVHHF9vFhooxdE7Kf49F/tLd9Yi/gEA292SPJk= Received: by 10.150.73.6 with SMTP id v6mr5338926yba.113.1211966178498; Wed, 28 May 2008 02:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.219.9 with HTTP; Wed, 28 May 2008 02:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <991123400805280216j136a3171y3f6e9377031fa322@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:16:18 +0300 From: "Odhiambo Washington" To: z.szalbot@lc-words.com In-Reply-To: <483D0181.5010605@lc-words.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <483C8060.2070003@lc-words.com> <483C87F0.9030803@mikestammer.com> <483D0181.5010605@lc-words.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dump and remote file fetching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:16:24 -0000 On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Hi there, > > Need a word of advice. I use dump to backup my data. All fine. Dump saves >>> compressed *.bz2 files. Nice. All I need now is a way to copy them from the >>> server to a remote backup machine. The problem I am facing is that bz2 files >>> are owned by root:wheel. So if I use scp user@domain.tld:/path/to/*.bz2, >>> it does not have sufficient permissions to fetch the files. I can use sudo, >>> but then I need to interactively type the password, which I would like to >>> avoid. >>> >>> Can you suggest simple ways of getting around this? I don't mind using >>> special tools for the job, especially if they are not too complicated... :) >>> >>> Before firing this email off I took a look at rsync and it seems easy >>> enough to do just what I need but still many thanks for suggestions! >>> >> >> I have been very happy with rsnapshot. Take that for a spin and see how >> it works for you >> > > I have taken a look at rsnapshot but it seems I am left to deal with the > same problem: > > From their page: > In addition to full paths on the local filesystem, you can also backup > remote systems using rsync over ssh. If you have ssh installed and enabled > (via the cmd_ssh parameter), you can specify a path like: > > backup root@example.com:/etc/ example.com/ > > This behaves fundamentally the same way, but you must take a few extra > things into account. > > a/ The ssh daemon must be running on example.com > b/ You must have access to the account you specify the remote machine, in > this case the root user on example.com. > > I do not allow remote root login so what are my options in that case? How > do you deal with such a scenario? Many thanks! HI ZS, I used to do something like this with a very simple shell script, using ftp. In the script, I was simply checking the filename, extracting the date from it, comparing the date with today's date, and pushing into a nother server all files that are dated yesterday. These were log files created using another script, which would create them like main.YYYYMMDD.log. IIRC, ftp relies on a file ~/.netrc which can have the destination hostname, username and password. With these, ftp will be automated - no need to enter any logon credentials. Please read the man page for ftp on how to use the netrc file or the ~/.netrc If you need more assistance, find me off list:-) Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 12:55:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515AB1065675 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 12:55:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (unknown [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C86C58FC14 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 12:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 76925 invoked by uid 89); 28 May 2008 08:55:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by v6.ibctech.ca with ESMTPA; 28 May 2008 08:55:15 -0000 Message-ID: <483D55AF.4010107@ibctech.ca> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 08:53:03 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <9A8B941DE58060D25F514F0D@ganymede.hub.org> <20080528095456.F8870@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080528095456.F8870@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:55:03 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> Does anyone know of anyone make an enterprise level router based off >> of FreeBSD? > > define what "enterprise level router" is Something that doesn't say 'Vista capable' on the box? :) Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 13:16:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 370D11065672 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 13:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292268FC1D for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 13:16:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4SDGlCC010012; Wed, 28 May 2008 15:16:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m4SDGffq010009; Wed, 28 May 2008 15:16:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:16:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Steve Bertrand In-Reply-To: <483D55AF.4010107@ibctech.ca> Message-ID: <20080528151552.Q10008@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <9A8B941DE58060D25F514F0D@ganymede.hub.org> <20080528095456.F8870@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <483D55AF.4010107@ibctech.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 13:16:56 -0000 >>> FreeBSD? >> >> define what "enterprise level router" is > > Something that doesn't say 'Vista capable' on the box? so get 486, 16MB RAM, needed amount of network cards, install FreeBSD and configure :) (pentium may be needed for full 100Mb/s capability) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 13:34:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43DE0106566B for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 13:34:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEFFE8FC14 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 13:34:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-0000136000000330-dc-483d5f9f727c Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 28 May 2008 09:35:27 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:33:08 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20080528151552.Q10008@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FreeBSD based router ... Thread-Index: AcjAxRV77k+yniuDRmalsaSPP9F8tQAAgAkg References: <9A8B941DE58060D25F514F0D@ganymede.hub.org><20080528095456.F8870@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl><483D55AF.4010107@ibctech.ca> <20080528151552.Q10008@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> From: "Bob McConnell" To: X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: RE: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 13:34:46 -0000 Wojciech Puchar >>> define what "enterprise level router" is >> >> Something that doesn't say 'Vista capable' on the box? >=20 > so get 486, 16MB RAM, needed amount of network cards, install FreeBSD and=20 > configure :) >=20 > (pentium may be needed for full 100Mb/s capability) Finding a box with that enough PCI slots might be problematic. Bob McConnell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 13:46:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9241065739 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 13:46:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE428FC14 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 13:46:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 28 May 2008 09:46:51 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id OSA13377; Wed, 28 May 2008 09:46:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 28 May 2008 09:46:49 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18493.25160.836101.941905@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:46:48 -0400 To: "Bob McConnell" In-Reply-To: References: <9A8B941DE58060D25F514F0D@ganymede.hub.org> <20080528095456.F8870@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <483D55AF.4010107@ibctech.ca> <20080528151552.Q10008@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 13:46:51 -0000 Bob McConnell writes: > >>> define what "enterprise level router" is > >> > >> Something that doesn't say 'Vista capable' on the box? > > > > so get 486, 16MB RAM, needed amount of network cards, install FreeBSD > and > > configure :) > > > > (pentium may be needed for full 100Mb/s capability) > > Finding a box with that enough PCI slots might be problematic. Six slots X quad-port network cards = 24 interfaces. If you need more than that, it's probably worth investing in specialized hard-/software. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 13:53:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C3D106567D for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 13:53:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767E08FC14 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 13:53:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-0000135c00000330-63-483d63f471af Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 28 May 2008 09:53:56 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:51:35 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <18493.25160.836101.941905@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FreeBSD based router ... Thread-Index: AcjAyS0r6+q/p/fKTx2eeNEcdA4CYgAAHQwg References: <9A8B941DE58060D25F514F0D@ganymede.hub.org><20080528095456.F8870@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl><483D55AF.4010107@ibctech.ca><20080528151552.Q10008@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <18493.25160.836101.941905@jerusalem.litteratus.org> From: "Bob McConnell" To: X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: RE: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 13:53:13 -0000 From: Robert Huff > Bob McConnell writes: >=20 >> >>> define what "enterprise level router" is >> >> >> >> Something that doesn't say 'Vista capable' on the box? >> >=20 >> > so get 486, 16MB RAM, needed amount of network cards, install FreeBSD >> and=20 >> > configure :) >> >=20 >> > (pentium may be needed for full 100Mb/s capability) >> =20 >> Finding a box with that enough PCI slots might be problematic. >=20 > Six slots X quad-port network cards =3D 24 interfaces. > If you need more than that, it's probably worth investing in > specialized hard-/software. > Robert Huff Where did you find a box with six slots? Bob McConnell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 14:05:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8D31065672 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 14:05:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51438FC20 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 14:05:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FCAFD06C for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:06:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB3BFD06A for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:06:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <483D66A2.8070908@webrz.net> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:05:22 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483CB6F3.5040505@muliahost.com> In-Reply-To: <483CB6F3.5040505@muliahost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Subject: Re: Survive from DDoS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:05:25 -0000 Kalpin Erlangga Silaen wrote: > yesterday, our shell server was attack and server immeditiately reboot. > I checked logs, it likes UDP flood with destination port 53. Is there > any way how to survive from this kind attack? (i) Do a "grep 53 /etc/services" and search for ports 53 on both tcp and udp. Use tcpdump to examine the traffic to see if you can find out what is making the requests. (ii) You could set up a caching-only name server. By default, the queries would be performed through a random port, and any previous queries would reference the cache, rather than rely on the remote DNS. (iii) I found this on the net: You could tie your address resolution to a group. Say, for instance, you create a group called "resolve", and add yourself to it and root (for ports): # pw groupadd resolve -M root,you Then, just add something like this to IPFW rule set, replacing the example DNS addresses with your actual addresses: DNS1="1.2.3.4" DNS2="5.6.7.8" add pass udp from any 53 to { DNS1 or DNS2 } 53 out gid resolve keep-state That would have the effect of blocking anything outward-bound from port 53, except that of address queries by you and root. If you're running a caching-only NS, set-up "bind" as a member of the group, and your firewall line w/o the port 53 specification: # pw groupadd resolve -M bind add pass udp from any 53 to { $DNS1 or $DNS2 } 53 out gid resolve keep-state add pass udp from any to { $DNS1 or $DNS2 } 53 out gid resolve keep-state That will block everyone but bind from querying the remote DNS server. -- cut -- I hope this helps... Jos -- My other computer is a *BBC Model B+ * From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 14:09:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5016910656B3 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 14:09:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87B88FC2A for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 14:09:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:60005 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K1MKp-0005D3-5o for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:09:00 +0200 Received: (qmail 35533 invoked from network); 28 May 2008 16:08:56 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 28 May 2008 16:08:56 +0200 Received: (qmail 30666 invoked by uid 1001); 28 May 2008 16:08:56 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:08:56 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Bob McConnell Message-ID: <20080528140856.GA30599@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <18493.25160.836101.941905@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1K1MKp-0005D3-5o. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1K1MKp-0005D3-5o d7ba50cb729eb51a8bc0cdb371b97834 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:09:01 -0000 On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 09:51:35AM -0400, Bob McConnell wrote: > From: Robert Huff > > Bob McConnell writes: > > > >> >>> define what "enterprise level router" is > >> >> > >> >> Something that doesn't say 'Vista capable' on the box? > >> > > >> > so get 486, 16MB RAM, needed amount of network cards, install > FreeBSD > >> and > >> > configure :) > >> > > >> > (pentium may be needed for full 100Mb/s capability) > >> > >> Finding a box with that enough PCI slots might be problematic. > > > > Six slots X quad-port network cards = 24 interfaces. > > If you need more than that, it's probably worth investing in > > specialized hard-/software. > > > Robert Huff > > Where did you find a box with six slots? Motherboards (in standard ATX format) with six PCI slots are not all that difficult to find. If you include PCI-E and PCI-X in 'PCI' it is even easier, but there certainly exist ones with six normal 32-bit/33MHz PCI slots as well. Today it is not very common, but if you look at older socketA boards it was actually fairly common. (The Asus A7V8X-X is one example of such a board, but there were several others.) (Putting a total of 6 quad-port NICs on a single PCI-bus would totally swamp that bus though, so if one were to actually use so many NICs I would rather recommend e.g. the Asus P5BP-E/4L motherboard. It has 3 PCI slots and 3 PCI-E slots in addition to the four gigabit LAN ports included on the motherboard - so you can get a total of 28 ports if you fully populate all slots with quad-port NICs (not counting any USB-connected ethernet ports one might add.) It also has built-in graphics so one does not need to waste one slot on a graphics card.) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 14:17:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4235106568A for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 14:17:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itmngr@cooperationireland.org) Received: from smtp3.irishbroadband.ie (smtp3.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FCF8FC1B for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 14:17:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itmngr@cooperationireland.org) Received: from [62.231.53.178] (helo=mail.cooperationireland.org) by smtp3.irishbroadband.ie with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1K1LlG-000J15-GG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 14:32:14 +0100 Received: from [199.107.1.116] ([87.192.228.253]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.cooperationireland.org (8.14.2/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m4SDmiWD012359 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 14:48:46 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from itmngr@cooperationireland.org) Message-Id: From: Michael Doyle To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:51:13 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.1/7254/Tue May 27 11:10:59 2008 on mail.cooperationireland.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on mail.cooperationireland.org X-Scan-Signature: 3155d5088c1405296cf286ff761a0124 Subject: Need help with multicast routing over VPN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:17:59 -0000 My organisation has successfully used FreeBSD to set up a VPN between three sites. Now, in order to facilitate a phone system using VOIP between two of those sites, I have attempted to enable multi-cast routing between those sites. I looked at the mrouted manual, and attempted to configure it properly insofar as I understood it. I also re-compiled the kernels of the firewalls to enable multicast routing. I have not succeeded in getting the phone systems to see eachothers' multicast packets, and after several attempts, all I have done is to crash the firewalls, and annoy my staff members. If someone has done this sort of thing before, I would be prepared to send my config files to them for review (/etc/rc.conf, /etc/ipsec.conf, /etc/mrouted.conf, /usr/ local/etc/racoon/racoon.conf and /etc/rc.firewall are the files I think are of interest). Both systems are running FreeBSD 6.3-stable as of friday of last week. Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 14:22:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8C31065670 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 14:22:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from i.tanusheff@procreditbank.bg) Received: from mail.procreditbank.bg (mail.procreditbank.bg [193.26.216.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DFCE58FC1E for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 14:22:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from i.tanusheff@procreditbank.bg) Received: (qmail 25118 invoked from network); 28 May 2008 17:39:12 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO domino.procreditbank.bg) (10.0.0.15) by 192.168.1.3 with SMTP; 28 May 2008 17:39:12 +0300 In-Reply-To: <483D188C.3050007@muliahost.com> To: Kalpin Erlangga Silaen MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0.2 September 26, 2006 From: Ivailo Tanusheff Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 17:22:38 +0300 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on DOMINO/BULGARIA/PROCREDITBANK(Release 7.0.2FP2|May 14, 2007) at 28.05.2008 17:22:39, Serialize complete at 28.05.2008 17:22:39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Survive from DDoS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:22:38 -0000 Hi, What I wanted to say was to use pf, not ipf. You may use something like this: table persist block log quick from # sshspammer # more than 6 ssh attempts in 15 seconds will be blocked ;) pass in quick on $ext_if proto tcp to ($ext_if) port ssh keep state (max-src-conn 10, max-src-conn-rate 6/15, overload flush global) which I use for ssh flood protection or brute force attacks. You have to change the syntax to use it for DNS. Hope this will help you. Regards, Ivailo Tanusheff Kalpin Erlangga Silaen Sent by: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 28.05.2008 11:34 To Ivailo Tanusheff cc "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject Re: Survive from DDoS Dear Ivailo, thank you for your response. I am using ipfw to limit all packets for all open port in my server. But the packet size was 600 Mbps which could not filtered by our ISP. Ivailo Tanusheff wrote: > Hi, > > you may use ipf to drop packets from the attacking host I suppose. Or even > limit the packets to the specified port. > > Regards, > > Ivailo Tanusheff > > > > > Kalpin Erlangga Silaen > Sent by: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > 28.05.2008 05:01 > > To > "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" > cc > > Subject > Survive from DDoS > > > > > > > Dear all, > > yesterday, our shell server was attack and server immeditiately reboot. > I checked logs, it likes UDP flood with destination port 53. Is there > any way how to survive from this kind attack? Also, is there any > url/resources to improve our shell server? > > Thank you > > > Kalpin Erlangga Silaen > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 14:45:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25239106566B for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 14:45:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8DF08FC0C for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 14:44:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-0000135000000330-68-483d70166973 Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 28 May 2008 10:45:41 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 10:43:14 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <2b677bda0805280731x45fc2dd4ra62a2657e11641c1@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FreeBSD based router ... Thread-Index: AcjAz2dEvr9RgefRRROzLrxJaOt+6QAACqCw References: <18493.25160.836101.941905@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20080528140856.GA30599@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <2b677bda0805280731x45fc2dd4ra62a2657e11641c1@mail.gmail.com> From: "Bob McConnell" To: X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: RE: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:45:00 -0000 From: Jerry B. Altzman > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Erik Trulsson wrote: >> (Putting a total of 6 quad-port NICs on a single PCI-bus would totally swamp >> that bus though, so if one were to actually use so many NICs I would rather >> recommend e.g. the Asus P5BP-E/4L motherboard. It has 3 PCI slots and 3 >> PCI-E slots in addition to the four gigabit LAN ports included on the >> motherboard - so you can get a total of 28 ports if you fully populate all >> slots with quad-port NICs (not counting any USB-connected ethernet ports one >> might add.) It also has built-in graphics so one does not need to waste >> one slot on a graphics card.) >=20 > And all this just to *pass packets*; if you're making real *routing* > decisions based upon that (i.e. you're making a router rather than a > switch), which requires that packets take a trip to the CPU, you'll > find yourself coming to the realization that Cisco and Juniper might > actually be on to something, there, and that ASICs might actually be > worth what you paid for them. >=20 > YMMV, HTH, HAND. I don't need that many Ethernet ports, but I do need most of those PCI slots. I was unable to locate a box with more than four slots and a warranty that was acceptable to our Production group. I'm still not sure about the warranty or that we can buy it in a case with power supply. But at least I have a vector to resume my search. Thanks, Bob McConnell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 14:48:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EAA106567E for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 14:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC0C8FC1C for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 14:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:53572 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K1Mwx-0006Gj-9C for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:48:24 +0200 Received: (qmail 35848 invoked from network); 28 May 2008 16:48:19 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 28 May 2008 16:48:19 +0200 Received: (qmail 30996 invoked by uid 1001); 28 May 2008 16:48:19 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:48:19 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: "Jerry B. Altzman" Message-ID: <20080528144819.GA30956@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <18493.25160.836101.941905@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20080528140856.GA30599@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <2b677bda0805280731x45fc2dd4ra62a2657e11641c1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2b677bda0805280731x45fc2dd4ra62a2657e11641c1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1K1Mwx-0006Gj-9C. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1K1Mwx-0006Gj-9C c93c11919e0c091533513765bc8ec0b7 Cc: Bob McConnell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:48:25 -0000 On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:31:24AM -0400, Jerry B. Altzman wrote: > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > (Putting a total of 6 quad-port NICs on a single PCI-bus would totally swamp > > that bus though, so if one were to actually use so many NICs I would rather > > recommend e.g. the Asus P5BP-E/4L motherboard. It has 3 PCI slots and 3 > > PCI-E slots in addition to the four gigabit LAN ports included on the > > motherboard - so you can get a total of 28 ports if you fully populate all > > slots with quad-port NICs (not counting any USB-connected ethernet ports one > > might add.) It also has built-in graphics so one does not need to waste > > one slot on a graphics card.) > > And all this just to *pass packets*; if you're making real *routing* > decisions based upon that (i.e. you're making a router rather than a > switch), which requires that packets take a trip to the CPU, you'll > find yourself coming to the realization that Cisco and Juniper might > actually be on to something, there, and that ASICs might actually be > worth what you paid for them. > > YMMV, HTH, HAND. Yep, and if you do buy a whole bunch of quad-port NICs for your PC, then the whole system will probably end up costing quite a bit. It might even turn out to be cheaper to get a "real" router instead. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 14:57:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8F41065675 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 14:57:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbaltz@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783218FC19 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 14:57:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbaltz@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so3563238rvf.43 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 07:57:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=gGWOyE7lnMhfxtPI6HZVTS8zCmigiCxsb7b7cFwv3CU=; b=iWc3lca1qzcWXp/R7/gViOjr/yMxmay6CkCWhyTPERNyYetoiowjuzPMI+jISdrac0bi0MtVewGhhCrcM23+0lv5eGoU12xQ33RXtqa2+KPXhN36oyKXnFp36B6MOntMcopdDAsItyN0a+1M5n8AvHE7wJFlxOGJMlzgalehjmQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=O9vwmiqVy7qgvTvlZSDu8aQ8v6pOaUIYokfJy752zMQWCd+dzXSqoVN3UR2qMXtS2fCOrZ/H0F0xYb2IVvBY7DBgzn77g/MsJjUwu33RQleK7rM0KpxIkaHLIi5uq/GlpvxVQxtOk9THhjZEAFUkCg27NtS3PtVz5FFcJddiC/4= Received: by 10.141.179.5 with SMTP id g5mr1217369rvp.237.1211985084309; Wed, 28 May 2008 07:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.69.16 with HTTP; Wed, 28 May 2008 07:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2b677bda0805280731x45fc2dd4ra62a2657e11641c1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 10:31:24 -0400 From: "Jerry B. Altzman" To: "Erik Trulsson" In-Reply-To: <20080528140856.GA30599@owl.midgard.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <18493.25160.836101.941905@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20080528140856.GA30599@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Cc: Bob McConnell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:57:47 -0000 On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Erik Trulsson wrote: > (Putting a total of 6 quad-port NICs on a single PCI-bus would totally swamp > that bus though, so if one were to actually use so many NICs I would rather > recommend e.g. the Asus P5BP-E/4L motherboard. It has 3 PCI slots and 3 > PCI-E slots in addition to the four gigabit LAN ports included on the > motherboard - so you can get a total of 28 ports if you fully populate all > slots with quad-port NICs (not counting any USB-connected ethernet ports one > might add.) It also has built-in graphics so one does not need to waste > one slot on a graphics card.) And all this just to *pass packets*; if you're making real *routing* decisions based upon that (i.e. you're making a router rather than a switch), which requires that packets take a trip to the CPU, you'll find yourself coming to the realization that Cisco and Juniper might actually be on to something, there, and that ASICs might actually be worth what you paid for them. YMMV, HTH, HAND. > Erik Trulsson //jbaltz -- jerry b. altzman jbaltz@gmail.com www.jbaltz.com foo mane padme hum From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 15:30:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90811065674 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 15:30:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbaltz@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9848FC19 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 15:30:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbaltz@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so3578741rvf.43 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:30:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=XyoytWEnfdWYQzCSuCC8+nBH8au+cbLMaeq9ne+nfw4=; b=YtjlTFnnL0ZcWaKHSQBTJmWlFrho2KIHSR8wFCDu6R2yxQoY/Dbxy1is6yoV+t2X7WkvEeZh9SwHkPZ3cbXMfjdvkfnJ0bf+0ouuXIBG9ZMdsCpt+A8GrmxcHRRiyHg1Lnjvr+sm1AdPPplhVhEO8BV6XSmNsO+Cuvo4x+TE5bw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YdIHP01NFzf9IOsLjb/1krg3q5p/BFqX6eXS1nWIPvkyDeOJpbN8U4yCQvObQVH/Kd+XAYnIuhEQ6P/KEBo2t0I8aGG6aXE/QdhAyZIzJbYDZhAU/YGl7GaeFfEHBkgVKOY/++g8KTJ8iNz1E8FfT0F+WxkCxp3JsMg6pWDscXI= Received: by 10.140.136.6 with SMTP id j6mr245974rvd.231.1211988601499; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.69.16 with HTTP; Wed, 28 May 2008 08:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2b677bda0805280830o2ecd2e6ga76d707a0a1c2305@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:30:01 -0400 From: "Jerry B. Altzman" To: "Erik Trulsson" In-Reply-To: <20080528144819.GA30956@owl.midgard.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <18493.25160.836101.941905@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20080528140856.GA30599@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <2b677bda0805280731x45fc2dd4ra62a2657e11641c1@mail.gmail.com> <20080528144819.GA30956@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Cc: Bob McConnell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:30:02 -0000 On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:31:24AM -0400, Jerry B. Altzman wrote: >> And all this just to *pass packets*; if you're making real *routing* >> decisions based upon that (i.e. you're making a router rather than a >> switch), which requires that packets take a trip to the CPU, you'll >> find yourself coming to the realization that Cisco and Juniper might >> actually be on to something, there, and that ASICs might actually be >> worth what you paid for them. > Yep, and if you do buy a whole bunch of quad-port NICs for your PC, then > the whole system will probably end up costing quite a bit. It might even > turn out to be cheaper to get a "real" router instead. I don't know about that: Intel quad gigE cards are $250/pop on eBay; Sun qfe cards are a tenth of that price. Have you priced Vendor C or Vendor J routers recently? If you're building a *switch*, you are still price competitive with the bigger vendors. Oh yeah, this is all ONLY for passing ethernet; if you've got other layer-1 technologies to integrate, you're in for a surprise, too. > Erik Trulsson //jbaltz -- jerry b. altzman jbaltz@gmail.com www.jbaltz.com foo mane padme hum From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 15:50:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE1C1065673 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 15:50:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web251@server10.greatweb.de) Received: from server10.greatweb.de (server10.greatweb.de [83.133.100.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5FF08FC1D for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 15:50:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web251@server10.greatweb.de) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by server10.greatweb.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE774571324 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 17:31:59 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at server10.greatweb.de X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER Improper use of control character (char 0D hex): From: Fatan Kerqagu \r\n Received: from server10.greatweb.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server10.greatweb.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 30) with ESMTP id S-ISDt+W791r for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 17:31:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: by server10.greatweb.de (Postfix, from userid 1122) id D174257135B; Wed, 28 May 2008 17:31:12 +0200 (CEST) To: questions@freebsd.org From: Fatan Kerqagu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20080528153112.D174257135B@server10.greatweb.de> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 17:31:12 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: SOS Kosovo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: kosovostudent@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:50:33 -0000 Dear ladies and gentlemen please allow me to introduce myself. 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Fatan Kercagu Rahovec, Kosovo Email:kosovostudent@gmail.com Tel : +37744 119934 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 16:04:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC25106567F for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pcloches@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0648D8FC18 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pcloches@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j40so1826835rnf.12 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 09:04:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=TDsXAOF6WYkSqhH4LsmE6OrYKuCWy0FAYpvBp47EaWw=; b=JhJzfsXGU02YwK807bxVYfwclmIv8POfs71P+2tA/0fcwNf8qJ8COjOKiAJQXdyHCmrTi4zrYTeEh9UHD3Mfd5+f+FoEBjyW++nIqI3/r6p1mGG9JTzBomyKw7mtpjUB+NyeaQRdfymQfpWPTwgJynaQ30K0awR5YewfbLHH83M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=G3EEqUemmwJFXbkawe8VPzWc3q3XQcwrYRw8z0vuwSOWMnOqvtku1AXC5OYvFYBvJbJjjr22ffZ1U7Qvp5tSqSAv46T+iusRLOL9j8QCwgY0b7Yh0/3caqyiFTe1LEKrn2dKdfeHESvQx7uKStVSM2RBd9pYzpEjSQkdw0CxN54= Received: by 10.114.202.15 with SMTP id z15mr2830822waf.88.1211990647132; Wed, 28 May 2008 09:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.201.3 with HTTP; Wed, 28 May 2008 09:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <34394a3a0805280904i6a47d500m5914e18b2a5c208e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:04:07 -0700 From: "Patrick C" To: "Ivailo Tanusheff" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <483D188C.3050007@muliahost.com> Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Kalpin Erlangga Silaen Subject: Re: Survive from DDoS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:04:09 -0000 I think the size and the fact that his ISP could not filter this indicates that the problem cannot be solved locally. You can do all the blocking on your end you want, but they can (and did) still saturate links ahead of you. Your ISP (or even their uplink, I'm guessing your ISP was also pretty affected by this attack if they couldn't filter it) needs to step up to bat in times like this. -Patrick 2008/5/28 Ivailo Tanusheff : > > Hi, > > What I wanted to say was to use pf, not ipf. You may use something like > this: > > table persist > block log quick from > > # sshspammer > # more than 6 ssh attempts in 15 seconds will be blocked ;) > pass in quick on $ext_if proto tcp to ($ext_if) port ssh keep state > (max-src-conn 10, max-src-conn-rate 6/15, overload flush > global) > > which I use for ssh flood protection or brute force attacks. You have to > change the syntax to use it for DNS. > Hope this will help you. > > Regards, > > Ivailo Tanusheff > > > > > Kalpin Erlangga Silaen > Sent by: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > 28.05.2008 11:34 > > To > Ivailo Tanusheff > cc > "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , > owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject > Re: Survive from DDoS > > > > > > > Dear Ivailo, > > thank you for your response. I am using ipfw to limit all packets for > all open port in my server. But the packet size was 600 Mbps which could > not filtered by our ISP. > > Ivailo Tanusheff wrote: > > Hi, > > > > you may use ipf to drop packets from the attacking host I suppose. Or > even > > limit the packets to the specified port. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ivailo Tanusheff > > > > > > > > > > Kalpin Erlangga Silaen > > Sent by: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > 28.05.2008 05:01 > > > > To > > "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" > > cc > > > > Subject > > Survive from DDoS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > yesterday, our shell server was attack and server immeditiately reboot. > > I checked logs, it likes UDP flood with destination port 53. Is there > > any way how to survive from this kind attack? Also, is there any > > url/resources to improve our shell server? > > > > Thank you > > > > > > Kalpin Erlangga Silaen > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 16:06:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C7A1065671 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:06:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Received: from cartman.xxiii.com (cartman.xxiii.com [208.62.177.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDB38FC23 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Received: from [172.23.23.190] (lan23.xxiii.com [208.62.177.50]) by cartman.xxiii.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4SG6hm9077686; Wed, 28 May 2008 12:06:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Message-ID: <483D831A.7080000@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:06:50 -0400 From: Rob User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob McConnell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <18493.25160.836101.941905@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20080528140856.GA30599@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <2b677bda0805280731x45fc2dd4ra62a2657e11641c1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:06:47 -0000 Bob McConnell wrote: > I don't need that many Ethernet ports, but I do need most of those PCI > slots. I was unable to locate a box with more than four slots and a > warranty that was acceptable to our Production group. I'm still not sure > about the warranty or that we can buy it in a case with power supply. These guys have a 2 or 4 port nic for < $100: http://www.soekris.com/lan16x1.htm Try Ebay for the Adaptec ANA-6944-TX. It's a 4 port based on the old DEC chipset (de driver) Usual can be had for <= $10. This is a good article on some free-ware packages you might like to start from: http://www.fsckin.com/2007/11/14/7-different-linuxbsd-firewalls-reviewed/ -R From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 16:23:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96C6106564A for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:23:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8110C8FC21 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:23:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m4SGN9xS035450; Wed, 28 May 2008 09:23:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" , "Matthew Donovan" Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:24:18 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <87hccjm9vx.fsf@kobe.laptop> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Wed, 28 May 2008 09:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:23:16 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Giorgos > Keramidas > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 7:38 PM > To: Matthew Donovan > Cc: Marc G. Fournier; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... > > > On Tue, 27 May 2008 22:28:35 -0400, Matthew Donovan > wrote: > > On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:56:55PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> Does anyone know of anyone make an enterprise level router > based off of FreeBSD? > > > > Juniptor makes routers based on freebsd. Sorry for the spelling really > > it's incorrect for the company name but you can just look up theri > > site if you want to pay for it really good from what I have heard. > > The correct spelling of the name is 'Juniper'. > > You are right of course. Juniper develops high-end routers. > They're very very good at it too :) > They are very expensive. A Juniper is not based on FreeBSD. It uses FreeBSD as the control interface. The actual routing happens in specialized ASICS that Juniper custom-builds. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 16:23:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC91106578A for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:23:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D528FC1B for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:23:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m4SGN9xU035450; Wed, 28 May 2008 09:23:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jerry B. Altzman" , "Erik Trulsson" Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:24:21 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <2b677bda0805280731x45fc2dd4ra62a2657e11641c1@mail.gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Wed, 28 May 2008 09:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Bob McConnell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:23:23 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jerry B. > Altzman > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:31 AM > To: Erik Trulsson > Cc: Bob McConnell; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... >=20 >=20 > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Erik Trulsson=20 > wrote: > > (Putting a total of 6 quad-port NICs on a single PCI-bus would=20 > totally swamp > > that bus though, so if one were to actually use so many NICs I=20 > would rather > > recommend e.g. the Asus P5BP-E/4L motherboard. It has 3 PCI slots = and 3 > > PCI-E slots in addition to the four gigabit LAN ports included on = the > > motherboard - so you can get a total of 28 ports if you fully=20 > populate all > > slots with quad-port NICs (not counting any USB-connected=20 > ethernet ports one > > might add.) It also has built-in graphics so one does not need to = waste > > one slot on a graphics card.) >=20 > And all this just to *pass packets*; if you're making real *routing* > decisions based upon that (i.e. you're making a router rather than a > switch), which requires that packets take a trip to the CPU, you'll > find yourself coming to the realization that Cisco and Juniper might > actually be on to something, there, and that ASICs might actually be > worth what you paid for them. >=20 If it's purely ethernet-to-ethernet routing, and a lot of ethernet ports, then he should check into the layer-3 switches on the market and see if they will work for him. Much cheaper than a "real router" Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 16:40:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99830106567A for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:40:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D137C8FC24 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:40:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4SGe5wU010698; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:40:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m4SGe4Tg010695; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:40:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 18:40:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Bob McConnell In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080528183852.R10688@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <9A8B941DE58060D25F514F0D@ganymede.hub.org><20080528095456.F8870@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl><483D55AF.4010107@ibctech.ca> <20080528151552.Q10008@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:40:19 -0000 >> (pentium may be needed for full 100Mb/s capability) > > Finding a box with that enough PCI slots might be problematic. not true. 5 PCI slots isn't uncommon+ISA slots. ISA slot is OK for video card (easy to find in scraps ;). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 16:40:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FB2106566C for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:40:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D17E8FC20 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:40:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4SGeb2n010705; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:40:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m4SGeb4q010702; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:40:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 18:40:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Bob McConnell In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080528184017.H10688@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <9A8B941DE58060D25F514F0D@ganymede.hub.org><20080528095456.F8870@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl><483D55AF.4010107@ibctech.ca><20080528151552.Q10008@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <18493.25160.836101.941905@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:40:49 -0000 >>> >>> Finding a box with that enough PCI slots might be problematic. >> >> Six slots X quad-port network cards = 24 interfaces. >> If you need more than that, it's probably worth investing in >> specialized hard-/software. > >> Robert Huff > > Where did you find a box with six slots? > in older ones - quite common. in new machines it's a problem, not old From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 16:41:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A9C1065689 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:41:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637298FC2F for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4SGfYXq010718; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:41:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m4SGfYRN010715; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:41:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 18:41:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Bob McConnell In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080528184105.J10688@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <18493.25160.836101.941905@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20080528140856.GA30599@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <2b677bda0805280731x45fc2dd4ra62a2657e11641c1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:41:47 -0000 >> >> And all this just to *pass packets*; if you're making real *routing* >> decisions based upon that (i.e. you're making a router rather than a >> switch), which requires that packets take a trip to the CPU, you'll packet headers >> find yourself coming to the realization that Cisco and Juniper might for 10Gbe ports - yes. for lower speed no. >> >> YMMV, HTH, HAND. > > I don't need that many Ethernet ports, but I do need most of those PCI > slots. I was unable to locate a box with more than four slots and a > warranty that was acceptable to our Production group. I'm still not sure > about the warranty or that we can buy it in a case with power supply. > But at least I have a vector to resume my search. > > Thanks, > > Bob McConnell > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 16:42:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A54106566B for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:42:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D0E8FC1E for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:42:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4SGglVK010737; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:42:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m4SGgkbY010734; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:42:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 18:42:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Rob In-Reply-To: <483D831A.7080000@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080528184206.J10688@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <18493.25160.836101.941905@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20080528140856.GA30599@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <2b677bda0805280731x45fc2dd4ra62a2657e11641c1@mail.gmail.com> <483D831A.7080000@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Bob McConnell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:42:58 -0000 > > These guys have a 2 or 4 port nic for < $100: > http://www.soekris.com/lan16x1.htm > > Try Ebay for the Adaptec ANA-6944-TX. It's a 4 port based on the old DEC > chipset (de driver) Usual can be had for <= $10. but prepare for problems connecting this with other devices. usually works well with switches, but not with everything. speed negotiation is broken. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 16:43:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995F51065670 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60C08FC17 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:43:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4SGhcep010744; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:43:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m4SGhXU3010741; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:43:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 18:43:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080528184303.D10688@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , "Marc G. Fournier" , Matthew Donovan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:43:48 -0000 >> > > They are very expensive. > > A Juniper is not based on FreeBSD. It uses FreeBSD as the > control interface. The actual routing happens in specialized > ASICS that Juniper custom-builds. good for multiple gigabits traffic or more. for lower speed - not worth of. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 18:27:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D0F1065677 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:27:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from jedburgh.just4dns.com (jedburgh.just4dns.com [78.129.134.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FAD8FC12 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from [86.153.243.228] (helo=movens.plus.com) by jedburgh.just4dns.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K1QMR-0003dc-RP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 19:26:56 +0100 Received: from [10.10.1.4] (redshift [10.10.1.4]) by postbag.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D531CC85 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 19:27:08 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <483DA3FA.9030404@magichamster.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 19:27:06 +0100 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080524) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 1K1QMR-0003dc-RP X-Fuzioned-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-From: parish@magichamster.com X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jedburgh.just4dns.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - magichamster.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: External USB disk won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 18:27:27 -0000 Bought an external USB HD enclosure but it doesn't work under FreeBSD. Under FreeBSD-6.3-STABLE: umass0: Super Top USB 2.0 IDE DEVICE, rev 2.00/2.01, addr 2 da2 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da2: 40.000MB/s transfers da2: 38172MB (78177792 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4866C) # mount /dev/da2s1f /mnt # ls /mnt # (The disk is from another FreeBSD system so is UFS2 and da2s1f is /usr on the other system) So although it mounts, nothing is visible. After a few minutes this happens: umass0: at uhub3 port 1 (addr 2) disconnected (da2:umass-sim0:0:0:0): lost device (da2:dead_sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x8, scsi status == 0x0 (da2:dead_sim0:0:0:0): removing device entry umass0: detached Tried it under 7.0-RELEASE and it's even worse - it crashes the kernel with Fatal Trap 12: page fault in kernel mode. (forget the exact wording of the message, but it's definitely Fatal Trap 12). So is this just a case of the device not complying with USB standards - the manufacturer just tests it under Windows and that's good enough - or is there a way to solve this? I can confirm that the disk is good as I borrowed another enclosure to try and that works as expected. Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 18:45:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751E91065675 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F228FC0C for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: (qmail 28467 invoked from network); 28 May 2008 18:45:40 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO chuckr.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 28 May 2008 18:45:40 -0000 Message-ID: <483DA683.1020705@telenix.org> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:37:55 -0400 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Ovens References: <483DA3FA.9030404@magichamster.com> In-Reply-To: <483DA3FA.9030404@magichamster.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=F3DCA0E9; url=http://pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: External USB disk won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 18:45:41 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mark Ovens wrote: > Bought an external USB HD enclosure but it doesn't work under FreeBSD. > > Under FreeBSD-6.3-STABLE: > > umass0: Super Top USB 2.0 IDE DEVICE, rev 2.00/2.01, addr 2 > da2 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device > da2: 40.000MB/s transfers > da2: 38172MB (78177792 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4866C) > > # mount /dev/da2s1f /mnt > # ls /mnt I saw a mail yesterday about something nearly like this, from nej, except with him, the umass device wasn't reporting anything at all, no device when he plugged it in. I sent him a little piece of usb driver code that resets his usb buss, just to experiment and see if that got his devices correctly detected, but he didn't yet reply, I don't know if it worked for him. I don't have something like that to experiment with. With yours, you obviously have a da2 ... that only means you have a direct-access disk devide #2 being detected. The next step is to figure oout what kind of formatting you have. Hopefully, it's been fdisk'ed to where it has partitions, so do this (as root): "/sbin/fdisk /dev/da2", and in fdisk, give the 'p' command, this will print out the formatting for any partitions. Likely it's either one of the various Microsoft things, or a Linux one, or even a FreeBSD one. Depending on what you see, you either directly give a mount command next, to the right partition, or maybe you use bsdlable to find out what the disk-labelling is (if it's a FreeBSD disk). Probably the right thing to do is to reply here with the results of the fdisk, then whoever jumps on it first can give you the right thing to do next. I'm not going to try to tell you all the possible ways to go at this point, not without that. > # > > (The disk is from another FreeBSD system so is UFS2 and da2s1f is /usr > on the other system) > > So although it mounts, nothing is visible. > > After a few minutes this happens: > > umass0: at uhub3 port 1 (addr 2) disconnected > (da2:umass-sim0:0:0:0): lost device > (da2:dead_sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x8, scsi > status == 0x0 > (da2:dead_sim0:0:0:0): removing device entry > umass0: detached > > Tried it under 7.0-RELEASE and it's even worse - it crashes the kernel with > > Fatal Trap 12: page fault in kernel mode. (forget the exact wording of > the message, but it's definitely Fatal Trap 12). > > So is this just a case of the device not complying with USB standards - > the manufacturer just tests it under Windows and that's good enough - or > is there a way to solve this? > > I can confirm that the disk is good as I borrowed another enclosure to > try and that works as expected. > > Regards, > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIPaaDz62J6PPcoOkRAhNRAJ0TM+Izyjj1n+tMD8YAKc0XALk6TwCdHo/R uZES2fTDXjaG3v+GXSZpglg= =lHgf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 18:57:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7151065671 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:57:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from jedburgh.just4dns.com (jedburgh.just4dns.com [78.129.134.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4188FC1F for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:57:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from [86.153.243.228] (helo=movens.plus.com) by jedburgh.just4dns.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K1Qpy-0007Gd-8C for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 19:57:26 +0100 Received: from [10.10.1.4] (redshift [10.10.1.4]) by postbag.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636911CCAE for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 19:57:39 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <483DAB21.3090909@magichamster.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 19:57:37 +0100 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080524) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483DA3FA.9030404@magichamster.com> <483DA683.1020705@telenix.org> In-Reply-To: <483DA683.1020705@telenix.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 1K1Qpy-0007Gd-8C X-Fuzioned-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-From: parish@magichamster.com X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jedburgh.just4dns.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - magichamster.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: External USB disk won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 18:57:50 -0000 Chuck Robey wrote: > I saw a mail yesterday about something nearly like this, from nej, except with > him, the umass device wasn't reporting anything at all, no device when he > plugged it in. I sent him a little piece of usb driver code that resets his usb > buss, just to experiment and see if that got his devices correctly detected, but > he didn't yet reply, I don't know if it worked for him. I don't have something > like that to experiment with. > > With yours, you obviously have a da2 ... that only means you have a > direct-access disk devide #2 being detected. The next step is to figure oout > what kind of formatting you have. Hopefully, it's been fdisk'ed to where it has > partitions, so do this (as root): "/sbin/fdisk /dev/da2", and in fdisk, give the > 'p' command, this will print out the formatting for any partitions. Likely it's > either one of the various Microsoft things, or a Linux one, or even a FreeBSD > one. Depending on what you see, you either directly give a mount command next, > to the right partition, or maybe you use bsdlable to find out what the > disk-labelling is (if it's a FreeBSD disk). > Hi Chuck, The next line in my post after where you snipped was: (The disk is from another FreeBSD system so is UFS2 and da2s1f is /usr on the other system) It contains a running FBSD 7.0 system - it's out of a spare box I was using for testing and it mounts/reads/writes fine using the other USB enclosure I borrowed. There's just something screwy about the enclosure I've bought (typical eh?) Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 19:04:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D7B106564A for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 19:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F048FC13 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 19:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D830E1104B7; Wed, 28 May 2008 15:04:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 28 May 2008 15:04:35 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: dW1EXK9owrscy57dw//MKRQ/iDWoIq7U9IEZO6prXOX+ 1212001475 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 363B6377D; Wed, 28 May 2008 15:04:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <80A74452-ABF0-43EC-92A0-1166C1281098@goldmark.org> From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Rob In-Reply-To: <483D831A.7080000@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:04:34 -0500 References: <18493.25160.836101.941905@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20080528140856.GA30599@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <2b677bda0805280731x45fc2dd4ra62a2657e11641c1@mail.gmail.com> <483D831A.7080000@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: Bob McConnell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 19:04:36 -0000 On May 28, 2008, at 11:06 AM, Rob wrote: > These guys have a 2 or 4 port nic for < $100: > http://www.soekris.com/lan16x1.htm For small and medium sized enterprises that really just need firewall, NAT, static routing and are fine with 100Mb ether on the router, I've been happy with using soekris net48XX boxes using m0n0wall http://m0n0.ch/wall/ or pfsense http://www.pfsense.com/ both FreeBSD based. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 19:09:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3C01065678 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 19:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from jedburgh.just4dns.com (jedburgh.just4dns.com [78.129.134.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747C58FC19 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 19:09:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from [86.153.243.228] (helo=movens.plus.com) by jedburgh.just4dns.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K1R1p-0008WU-Nk for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 20:09:42 +0100 Received: from [10.10.1.4] (redshift [10.10.1.4]) by postbag.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074561CC85 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 20:09:55 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <483DAE00.80300@magichamster.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 20:09:52 +0100 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080524) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483DA3FA.9030404@magichamster.com> <483DA683.1020705@telenix.org> <483DAB21.3090909@magichamster.com> In-Reply-To: <483DAB21.3090909@magichamster.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 1K1R1p-0008WU-Nk X-Fuzioned-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-From: parish@magichamster.com X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jedburgh.just4dns.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - magichamster.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: External USB disk won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 19:09:59 -0000 Mark Ovens wrote: > Chuck Robey wrote: >> I saw a mail yesterday about something nearly like this, from nej, except with >> him, the umass device wasn't reporting anything at all, no device when he >> plugged it in. I sent him a little piece of usb driver code that resets his usb >> buss, just to experiment and see if that got his devices correctly detected, but >> he didn't yet reply, I don't know if it worked for him. I don't have something >> like that to experiment with. >> >> With yours, you obviously have a da2 ... that only means you have a >> direct-access disk devide #2 being detected. The next step is to figure oout >> what kind of formatting you have. Hopefully, it's been fdisk'ed to where it has >> partitions, so do this (as root): "/sbin/fdisk /dev/da2", and in fdisk, give the >> 'p' command, this will print out the formatting for any partitions. Likely it's >> either one of the various Microsoft things, or a Linux one, or even a FreeBSD >> one. Depending on what you see, you either directly give a mount command next, >> to the right partition, or maybe you use bsdlable to find out what the >> disk-labelling is (if it's a FreeBSD disk). >> > > Hi Chuck, > > The next line in my post after where you snipped was: > > (The disk is from another FreeBSD system so is UFS2 and da2s1f is /usr > on the other system) > > It contains a running FBSD 7.0 system - it's out of a spare box I was > using for testing and it mounts/reads/writes fine using the other USB > enclosure I borrowed. There's just something screwy about the enclosure > I've bought (typical eh?) > Forgot to add the output of fdisk..... /home/mark{104}# /sbin/fdisk /dev/da2 ******* Working on device /dev/da2 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=4866 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=4866 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 63, size 78172227 (38170 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: /home/mark{105}# Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 19:10:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E240F1065674 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 19:10:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:ffff::5e5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6111B8FC24 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 19:10:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (cpe-24-161-6-139.hvc.res.rr.com [24.161.6.139]) (authenticated bits=0) by vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4SJAGWr050324; Wed, 28 May 2008 15:10:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (localhost.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [127.0.0.1]) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m4SJABba087652; Wed, 28 May 2008 15:10:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: (from tbohml@localhost) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id m4SJABfR087651; Wed, 28 May 2008 15:10:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tbohml) From: "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" Message-Id: <200805281910.m4SJABfR087651@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> To: parish@magichamster.com (Mark Ovens) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:10:11 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <483DAB21.3090909@magichamster.com> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: External USB disk won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 19:10:29 -0000 > > Chuck Robey wrote: > > I saw a mail yesterday about something nearly like this, from nej, except with > > him, the umass device wasn't reporting anything at all, no device when he > > plugged it in. I sent him a little piece of usb driver code that resets his usb > > buss, just to experiment and see if that got his devices correctly detected, but > > he didn't yet reply, I don't know if it worked for him. I don't have something > > like that to experiment with. > > > > With yours, you obviously have a da2 ... that only means you have a > > direct-access disk devide #2 being detected. The next step is to figure oout > > what kind of formatting you have. Hopefully, it's been fdisk'ed to where it has > > partitions, so do this (as root): "/sbin/fdisk /dev/da2", and in fdisk, give the > > 'p' command, this will print out the formatting for any partitions. Likely it's > > either one of the various Microsoft things, or a Linux one, or even a FreeBSD > > one. Depending on what you see, you either directly give a mount command next, > > to the right partition, or maybe you use bsdlable to find out what the > > disk-labelling is (if it's a FreeBSD disk). > > > > Hi Chuck, > > The next line in my post after where you snipped was: > > (The disk is from another FreeBSD system so is UFS2 and da2s1f is /usr > on the other system) > > It contains a running FBSD 7.0 system - it's out of a spare box I was > using for testing and it mounts/reads/writes fine using the other USB > enclosure I borrowed. There's just something screwy about the enclosure > I've bought (typical eh?) > Sounds like issues I had with a USB stick that I had from a 5.4 system and tried to put onto a 7.0 system. (Posted in freebsd-current early April.)I had data integrity issues, couldn't re-format it on the new system, would mount but as soon as I used it the kernel would panic, etc. Bring it back to the 5.4 system, things were peachy. Tuc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 19:17:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3455F106574A for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 19:17:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AAF08FC15 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 19:17:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id p76so2513278pyb.10 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 12:17:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=Asx4DuaeeE2mFGcydJJDMa+WQ75bGlgr8vxZV7kN3rw=; b=Gg3u5sNpT00PMqgqyzT3LJroY2xB8CX336JNq+75yKGsJiS6FJaNwu/UT82mZteOSjeYXRfQrEq2sVPnxZoF0i1ETqpXieiN3nCZHmebjiyy9Je8H5v+J8KFrc95FyAVlOQsDudj2ZTtrl2rkfEcfuu6qa/VgzrmBhTDNzjRMzc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=gv5Mds1wm7gQgsYloyZaevRrmLbR7J6Z+Gg6afBP9/rm/yr/V6WVO/HUuXzQeSI9f0Sse6VUHqwzLg5HC/oUl30A01VxHQcb1JKO2o8YQIpU7z2JiHi1RJFRqRl0rK/fi9c9x9xTNdjFcmEw8kvYki5Vpv8g2jyCTDSLomtggc4= Received: by 10.114.137.2 with SMTP id k2mr1267890wad.95.1212002260455; Wed, 28 May 2008 12:17:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.102.17 with HTTP; Wed, 28 May 2008 12:17:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2cd0a0da0805281217t4402f319ic708685d51d662b2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 21:17:40 +0200 From: VeeJay To: VeeJay , FreeBSD-Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Does FreeBSD supports TCP Offload Engine (TOE) from Broadcom in Dell PE2950? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 19:17:43 -0000 Hi guys Any clue? Does FreeBSD supports TCP Offload Engine (TOE) from Broadcom in Dell PE2950? -- Thanks! BR / vj From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 19:22:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14DAC106566C for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 19:22:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DCA8FC0C for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 19:22:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4SJMRIW070126; Wed, 28 May 2008 21:22:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A1A89BA9A; Wed, 28 May 2008 21:22:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 21:22:27 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Mark Ovens Message-ID: <20080528192227.GB78305@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Mark Ovens , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483DA3FA.9030404@magichamster.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rJwd6BRFiFCcLxzm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <483DA3FA.9030404@magichamster.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: External USB disk won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 19:22:30 -0000 --rJwd6BRFiFCcLxzm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 07:27:06PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > Bought an external USB HD enclosure but it doesn't work under FreeBSD. >=20 > Under FreeBSD-6.3-STABLE: >=20 > umass0: Super Top USB 2.0 IDE DEVICE, rev 2.00/2.01, addr 2 > da2 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device > da2: 40.000MB/s transfers > da2: 38172MB (78177792 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4866C) >=20 > # mount /dev/da2s1f /mnt > # ls /mnt > # >=20 > (The disk is from another FreeBSD system so is UFS2 and da2s1f is /usr on= =20 > the other system) >=20 > So although it mounts, nothing is visible. You could try using the atausb driver instead of umass. Unfortunately it doesn't have a manpage yet, but you have to unload umass if you want to use atausb. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --rJwd6BRFiFCcLxzm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkg9sPMACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVMfgCeM6DYQFGcGiw98ET9wsPM7Yy+ 0L0AnjOJTuAd5RUS3B8Cjl6CtIuePJed =wfqI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rJwd6BRFiFCcLxzm-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 19:38:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489541065670 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 19:38:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from jedburgh.just4dns.com (jedburgh.just4dns.com [78.129.134.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5318FC21 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 19:38:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from [86.153.243.228] (helo=movens.plus.com) by jedburgh.just4dns.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K1RSy-0003dT-NU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 20:37:45 +0100 Received: from [10.10.1.4] (redshift [10.10.1.4]) by postbag.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9BB1CC85 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 20:37:58 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <483DB493.3060901@magichamster.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 20:37:55 +0100 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080524) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483DA3FA.9030404@magichamster.com> <20080528192227.GB78305@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20080528192227.GB78305@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 1K1RSy-0003dT-NU X-Fuzioned-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-From: parish@magichamster.com X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jedburgh.just4dns.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - magichamster.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: External USB disk won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 19:38:06 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > > You could try using the atausb driver instead of umass. Unfortunately it > doesn't have a manpage yet, but you have to unload umass if you want to > use atausb. > Thanks Roland, but I can't find atausb in either 6.3 or 7.0 - is it a kld module? Presumably, it would not work with other usb mass storage devices like memory sticks or phones? Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 19:45:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3860F1065678 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 19:45:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scriper@mail.ru) Received: from mx28.mail.ru (mx28.mail.ru [194.67.23.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B0B8FC20 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 19:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scriper@mail.ru) Received: from mx27.mail.ru (mx27.mail.ru [194.67.23.23]) by mx28.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id 20B203466EE for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 21:00:24 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [90.189.14.158] (port=41797 helo=localhost) by mx27.mail.ru with asmtp id 1K1P0g-000Eij-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 21:00:22 +0400 Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 01:13:43 +0800 From: "Nickolay D. Hodyunya" To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080528171343.GA2172@stdcall.ate.loc> Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline X-Comment-To: "Nickolay D. Hodyunya" User-Agent: mutt-devel X-Mailer: See User-Agent above :) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE X-PGP-Public-Key: http://NoPubKeyAtTheMom X-Useless-Header: Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK Cc: Subject: perl 5.10 port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 19:45:08 -0000 Hello. I'm interesting when perl 5.10 will be available in freebsd ports? Always Want to ask same question about qt4.4. -- Regards, Nickolay D. Hodyunya. mailto: scriper@mail.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 19:50:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63CDC1065673 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 19:50:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Received: from cartman.xxiii.com (cartman.xxiii.com [208.62.177.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6D58FC26 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 19:50:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Received: from [172.23.23.190] (lan23.xxiii.com [208.62.177.50]) by cartman.xxiii.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4SJoXtA005672; Wed, 28 May 2008 15:50:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Message-ID: <483DB790.2030301@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:50:40 -0400 From: Rob User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: VeeJay References: <2cd0a0da0805281217t4402f319ic708685d51d662b2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2cd0a0da0805281217t4402f319ic708685d51d662b2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Does FreeBSD supports TCP Offload Engine (TOE) from Broadcom in Dell PE2950? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 19:50:35 -0000 VeeJay wrote: > Does FreeBSD supports TCP Offload Engine (TOE) from Broadcom in Dell PE2950? from man bge: X v1.0 compliant. It supports IP, TCP and UDP checksum offload for both receive and transmit, multiple RX and TX DMA rings for QoS applications, rules-based receive filtering, and VLAN tag stripping/insertion as well -R From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 20:08:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CEF1065671 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 20:08:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736D18FC14 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 20:08:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4SK8Npn011399; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:08:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m4SK8LkE011396; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:08:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 22:08:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jeffrey Goldberg In-Reply-To: <80A74452-ABF0-43EC-92A0-1166C1281098@goldmark.org> Message-ID: <20080528220808.G11389@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <18493.25160.836101.941905@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20080528140856.GA30599@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <2b677bda0805280731x45fc2dd4ra62a2657e11641c1@mail.gmail.com> <483D831A.7080000@gmail.com> <80A74452-ABF0-43EC-92A0-1166C1281098@goldmark.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Bob McConnell , Rob , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 20:08:38 -0000 > > For small and medium sized enterprises that really just need firewall, NAT, > static routing and are fine with 100Mb ether on the router, I've been happy > with using soekris net48XX boxes using m0n0wall > > http://m0n0.ch/wall/ > > or pfsense > > http://www.pfsense.com/ > > both FreeBSD based. small but expensive. used 486-pentium hardware is for free. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 20:11:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419C51065670 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 20:11:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C662C8FC15 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 20:11:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4SKBXbd063726; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:11:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9A2CFBA9A; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:11:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 22:11:33 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Mark Ovens Message-ID: <20080528201133.GA79784@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Mark Ovens , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483DA3FA.9030404@magichamster.com> <20080528192227.GB78305@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <483DB493.3060901@magichamster.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <483DB493.3060901@magichamster.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: External USB disk won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 20:11:36 -0000 --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 08:37:55PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > Roland Smith wrote: >>=20 >> You could try using the atausb driver instead of umass. Unfortunately it >> doesn't have a manpage yet, but you have to unload umass if you want to >> use atausb. >>=20 >=20 > Thanks Roland, but I can't find atausb in either 6.3 or 7.0 - is it a kld= =20 > module? Yes; $ locate atausb /usr/src/sys/modules/ata/atausb /usr/src/sys/modules/ata/atausb/Makefile (This is on 7-STABLE) > Presumably, it would not work with other usb mass storage devices like=20 > memory sticks or phones? It should work with all usb mass storage devices, I think. It just seems to be tied into the ata subsystem instead of into the scsi subsystem via atapicam. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkg9vHUACgkQEnfvsMMhpyV35ACgrzAV80Jgf6GJzWrBrM5/39Uk mB8An0lxSPccDb2A8GY/iL2G9Kyjw9G/ =tV+E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 20:22:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5BA106566B for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 20:22:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from jedburgh.just4dns.com (jedburgh.just4dns.com [78.129.134.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279358FC1A for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 20:22:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from [86.153.243.228] (helo=movens.plus.com) by jedburgh.just4dns.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K1SAD-0000vM-4z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 21:22:25 +0100 Received: from [10.10.1.4] (redshift [10.10.1.4]) by postbag.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198261CC85 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 21:22:39 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <483DBF0C.1090309@magichamster.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 21:22:36 +0100 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080524) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483DA3FA.9030404@magichamster.com> <20080528192227.GB78305@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <483DB493.3060901@magichamster.com> <20080528201133.GA79784@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20080528201133.GA79784@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 1K1SAD-0000vM-4z X-Fuzioned-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-From: parish@magichamster.com X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jedburgh.just4dns.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - magichamster.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: External USB disk won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 20:22:51 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > Yes; > > $ locate atausb > /usr/src/sys/modules/ata/atausb > /usr/src/sys/modules/ata/atausb/Makefile > > (This is on 7-STABLE) > Ah, so it's not built by default! >> Presumably, it would not work with other usb mass storage devices like >> memory sticks or phones? > > It should work with all usb mass storage devices, I think. It just seems > to be tied into the ata subsystem instead of into the scsi subsystem via > atapicam. > Great, I'll try it out and let you know how it goes. Thanks. Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 20:43:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994A61065675 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 20:43:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@ctors.net) Received: from yergi.telenet-ops.be (yergi.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1558FC1B for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 20:43:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@ctors.net) Received: from nelson.telenet-ops.be (unknown [195.130.133.66]) by yergi.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2C47126F4 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:32:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by nelson.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with SMTP id A0E275009B for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:31:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lis.ctors.local (dD576159A.access.telenet.be [213.118.21.154]) by nelson.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9070F50097 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:31:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <483DC13F.8020301@ctors.net> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 22:31:59 +0200 From: Tom Van Looy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <18493.25160.836101.941905@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20080528140856.GA30599@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <2b677bda0805280731x45fc2dd4ra62a2657e11641c1@mail.gmail.com> <483D831A.7080000@gmail.com> <80A74452-ABF0-43EC-92A0-1166C1281098@goldmark.org> In-Reply-To: <80A74452-ABF0-43EC-92A0-1166C1281098@goldmark.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 20:43:27 -0000 Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > On May 28, 2008, at 11:06 AM, Rob wrote: > >> These guys have a 2 or 4 port nic for < $100: >> http://www.soekris.com/lan16x1.htm > > For small and medium sized enterprises that really just need firewall, > NAT, static routing and are fine with 100Mb ether on the router, I've > been happy with using soekris net48XX boxes using m0n0wall NETASQ firewalls also uses FreeBSD on their devices. But, the the question was "routers". I don't know if NETASQ has routers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 20:47:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1133B10656AE for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 20:47:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@ctors.net) Received: from yorgi.telenet-ops.be (yorgi.telenet-ops.be [195.130.133.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0428FC45 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 20:47:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@ctors.net) Received: from nelson.telenet-ops.be (nelson.telenet-ops.be [195.130.133.66]) by yorgi.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA0D58A249 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:35:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by nelson.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with SMTP id 0857450084 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:35:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lis.ctors.local (dD576159A.access.telenet.be [213.118.21.154]) by nelson.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC295007C for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:35:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <483DC21D.9090209@ctors.net> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 22:35:41 +0200 From: Tom Van Looy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <18493.25160.836101.941905@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20080528140856.GA30599@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <2b677bda0805280731x45fc2dd4ra62a2657e11641c1@mail.gmail.com> <483D831A.7080000@gmail.com> <80A74452-ABF0-43EC-92A0-1166C1281098@goldmark.org> <20080528220808.G11389@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080528220808.G11389@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 20:47:19 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> been happy with using soekris net48XX boxes using m0n0wall > small but expensive. used 486-pentium hardware is for free. No it's not, they consume electricity. Soekris boxes are designed for low-power. I had a 4501 and now have a 5501. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 20:56:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DA8106566C for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 20:56:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [64.81.218.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D81A8FC24 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 20:56:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 45879 invoked by uid 1008); 28 May 2008 21:57:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@74.1.12.115) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 28 May 2008 21:57:25 -0000 Message-ID: <483DC6FA.7020100@el.net> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:56:26 -0400 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: amd64 ?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 20:56:30 -0000 hi all... i have dilemma. i asked a hosting faclity to set up freebsd 7 on new server. and i mentioned that it should be 64 bit. now they when i get into the machine i get: srv391# uname -a FreeBSD srv391.carpathiahost.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008 root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 i did ask for an intel machine and the dmseg actually states: CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5405 @ 2.00GHz (1997.01-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x10676 Stepping = 6 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0xce33d> AMD Features=0x20100800 AMD Features2=0x1 so i'm a bit confused about the the 64 bit and why the machine is identifying itself as amd64 and not i686? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 21:08:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B3B1065676 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 21:08:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 865AE8FC0A; Wed, 28 May 2008 21:07:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <483DC9AC.1000003@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 23:07:56 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kalin m References: <483DC6FA.7020100@el.net> In-Reply-To: <483DC6FA.7020100@el.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 ?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 21:08:03 -0000 kalin m wrote: > hi all... > > i have dilemma. > > i asked a hosting faclity to set up freebsd 7 on new server. and i > mentioned that it should be 64 bit. > now they when i get into the machine i get: > srv391# uname -a > FreeBSD srv391.carpathiahost.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun > Feb 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008 > root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > i did ask for an intel machine and the dmseg actually states: > > CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5405 @ 2.00GHz (1997.01-MHz > K8-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x10676 Stepping = 6 > > Features=0xbfebfbff > > > Features2=0xce33d> > > AMD Features=0x20100800 > AMD Features2=0x1 > > > so i'm a bit confused about the the 64 bit and why the machine is > identifying itself as amd64 and not i686? amd64 is the architecture name (since it was invented by AMD; just like i686 is named after Intel even if you are running CPU implementations by amd, cyrix, etc). Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 21:09:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D0A106566B for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 21:09:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633888FC1C for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 21:09:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4SL9dp7055669; Wed, 28 May 2008 23:09:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7E466BA9A; Wed, 28 May 2008 23:09:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 23:09:39 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: kalin m Message-ID: <20080528210939.GA81295@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: kalin m , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483DC6FA.7020100@el.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <483DC6FA.7020100@el.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 ?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 21:09:50 -0000 --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 04:56:26PM -0400, kalin m wrote: > hi all... >=20 > i have dilemma. >=20 > i asked a hosting faclity to set up freebsd 7 on new server. and i=20 > mentioned that it should be 64 bit. > now they when i get into the machine i get: > srv391# uname -a > FreeBSD srv391.carpathiahost.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun= =20 > Feb 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008 =20 > root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >=20 > i did ask for an intel machine and the dmseg actually states: >=20 > CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5405 @ 2.00GHz (1997.01-MHz K8-clas= s=20 > CPU) > Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x10676 Stepping =3D 6 > AMD Features=3D0x20100800 > AMD Features2=3D0x1 >=20 > so i'm a bit confused about the the 64 bit and why the machine is=20 > identifying itself as amd64 and not i686? Well, "amd64" is the name FreeBSD uses for the 64-bit architecture built by AMD as en extension of the 32-bit x86 architecture. Intel later made it's chips compatible because it's own 64-bit architecture IA64 was more or less a dud.=20 This architecture is also known as x86_64. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkg9yhMACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVDugCgp9KUtEYBKYtioFAdK0REFlsN iDIAnRWtjXLGPCWnIqGFTI1iNOd3Zd6g =7MtI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 21:14:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0961065674 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 21:14:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D349A8FC0A for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 21:14:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:52302 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K1SyQ-0002zx-6T for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 23:14:18 +0200 Received: (qmail 38476 invoked from network); 28 May 2008 23:14:16 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 28 May 2008 23:14:16 +0200 Received: (qmail 33402 invoked by uid 1001); 28 May 2008 23:14:16 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 23:14:16 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: kalin m Message-ID: <20080528211416.GA33336@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <483DC6FA.7020100@el.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <483DC6FA.7020100@el.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1K1SyQ-0002zx-6T. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1K1SyQ-0002zx-6T 498bd976097de4cb9bf14046413a69c4 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 ?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 21:14:20 -0000 On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 04:56:26PM -0400, kalin m wrote: > hi all... > > i have dilemma. > > i asked a hosting faclity to set up freebsd 7 on new server. and i > mentioned that it should be 64 bit. > now they when i get into the machine i get: > srv391# uname -a > FreeBSD srv391.carpathiahost.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun > Feb 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008 > root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > i did ask for an intel machine and the dmseg actually states: > > CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5405 @ 2.00GHz (1997.01-MHz > K8-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x10676 Stepping = 6 > > Features=0xbfebfbff > > Features2=0xce33d> > AMD Features=0x20100800 > AMD Features2=0x1 > > > so i'm a bit confused about the the 64 bit and why the machine is > identifying itself as amd64 and not i686? Looks fine to me. It is obviously the amd64 version of FreeBSD (which is 64-bit), which works just fine on that Intel CPU since all Intel's recent CPUs implement the AMD64 (aka x86-64) architecture. Intel calls it EM64T (unless they have changed it again) instead of AMD64, but it is the same thing. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 21:48:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0AC1106567C for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 21:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162F28FC19 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 21:48:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4SLmHER011703; Wed, 28 May 2008 23:48:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m4SLmGT1011700; Wed, 28 May 2008 23:48:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 23:48:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: kalin m In-Reply-To: <483DC6FA.7020100@el.net> Message-ID: <20080528234739.W11689@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <483DC6FA.7020100@el.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 ?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 21:48:31 -0000 > > so i'm a bit confused about the the 64 bit and why the machine is identifying > itself as amd64 and not i686? because this intel CPU is 64-bit AMD compatible (x86-64 standard). the rules changed and now intel make AMD-compatible CPUs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 22:09:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2847106566C for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8298FC18 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4SM9v5U003109 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 17:09:57 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) id m4SM9v6P003108; Wed, 28 May 2008 17:09:57 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 17:09:56 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Rob Message-ID: <20080528220956.GF5582@dan.emsphone.com> References: <2cd0a0da0805281217t4402f319ic708685d51d662b2@mail.gmail.com> <483DB790.2030301@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <483DB790.2030301@gmail.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: FreeBSD Questions , VeeJay Subject: Re: Does FreeBSD supports TCP Offload Engine (TOE) from Broadcom in Dell PE2950? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 22:09:59 -0000 In the last episode (May 28), Rob said: > VeeJay wrote: > > Does FreeBSD supports TCP Offload Engine (TOE) from Broadcom in > > Dell PE2950? > > from man bge: > > X v1.0 compliant. It supports IP, TCP and UDP checksum offload > for both receive and transmit, multiple RX and TX DMA rings for > QoS applications, rules-based receive filtering, and VLAN tag > stripping/insertion as well ( i.e. the bge driver does not support TCP data offload ) The embedded NIC in the 2950 is a BCM5708, however, which is handled by the bce driver, and the if_bce.c source has references to TSO, so it might be supported. Best way to find out is to run "ifconfig -m" and see whether TSO4 is listed in the capabilities line for your nic. Then again, a PE2950 should be able to saturate a gigabit NIC quite easily even without any offloading. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 22:16:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F5F1065671 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:16:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AC58FC16 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:16:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: (qmail 3940 invoked from network); 28 May 2008 22:16:26 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO april.telenix.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 28 May 2008 22:16:26 -0000 Message-ID: <483DD758.1010204@telenix.org> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 18:06:16 -0400 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Ovens References: <483DA3FA.9030404@magichamster.com> <483DA683.1020705@telenix.org> <483DAB21.3090909@magichamster.com> In-Reply-To: <483DAB21.3090909@magichamster.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=F3DCA0E9; url=http://pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: External USB disk won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 22:16:27 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mark Ovens wrote: > Chuck Robey wrote: >> I saw a mail yesterday about something nearly like this, from nej, >> except with >> him, the umass device wasn't reporting anything at all, no device when he >> plugged it in. I sent him a little piece of usb driver code that >> resets his usb >> buss, just to experiment and see if that got his devices correctly >> detected, but >> he didn't yet reply, I don't know if it worked for him. I don't have >> something >> like that to experiment with. >> >> With yours, you obviously have a da2 ... that only means you have a >> direct-access disk devide #2 being detected. The next step is to >> figure oout >> what kind of formatting you have. Hopefully, it's been fdisk'ed to >> where it has >> partitions, so do this (as root): "/sbin/fdisk /dev/da2", and in >> fdisk, give the >> 'p' command, this will print out the formatting for any partitions. >> Likely it's >> either one of the various Microsoft things, or a Linux one, or even a >> FreeBSD >> one. Depending on what you see, you either directly give a mount >> command next, >> to the right partition, or maybe you use bsdlable to find out what the >> disk-labelling is (if it's a FreeBSD disk). >> > > Hi Chuck, > > The next line in my post after where you snipped was: > > (The disk is from another FreeBSD system so is UFS2 and da2s1f is /usr > on the other system) Yeah, I don't even have a good excuse, that was extremely ill done of me. I guess I was trying to do something quickly while I was really thinking of other USB things, and walked into that. It's NOT the kind of usb that I've been working on either, I've been heavily into HID stuff, and that's totally different than a disk thing. If it's a device driver level problem, and it sure seems that way to me, I can't honestly offer you much, even if I had it here, I would approach it slowly. I think I will drop out of this one, Mark, and contemplate my navel a bit. I'm a bit embarrassed about that, could you tell? > > It contains a running FBSD 7.0 system - it's out of a spare box I was > using for testing and it mounts/reads/writes fine using the other USB > enclosure I borrowed. There's just something screwy about the enclosure > I've bought (typical eh?) > > Regards, > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIPddYz62J6PPcoOkRArErAJ9an6NsIja5B9gTlZQvOIL5xslmWwCgl7Rb Mq9WW70l28IpnkYnsNI+EAU= =MY/q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 22:23:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2278106566B for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:23:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C328FC14 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:23:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441DE10B6A5; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:23:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 28 May 2008 18:23:28 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: hTjf/MdukBtpSPLcLf9yF1mBCumHuve8larqhvgwWvU3 1212013407 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D5D03246C2; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:23:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20080528220808.G11389@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 17:23:26 -0500 References: <18493.25160.836101.941905@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20080528140856.GA30599@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <2b677bda0805280731x45fc2dd4ra62a2657e11641c1@mail.gmail.com> <483D831A.7080000@gmail.com> <80A74452-ABF0-43EC-92A0-1166C1281098@goldmark.org> <20080528220808.G11389@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: FreeBSD List Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 22:23:29 -0000 On May 28, 2008, at 3:08 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> For small and medium sized enterprises that really just need >> firewall, NAT, static routing and are fine with 100Mb ether on the >> router, I've been happy with using soekris net48XX boxes using >> m0n0wall > small but expensive. used 486-pentium hardware is for free. 486 hardware with three NICs, a CF drive, and run off of a few watts of DC power tend not to free. But of course a free 486 box may very well fit your needs. Cheers, -j From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 22:38:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C46181065670 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:38:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@laaco.net) Received: from mail.laaco.net (mail.laaco.net [38.99.244.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21D98FC12 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:38:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@laaco.net) Received: from [192.1.1.32] (datacenter-cogent-t3.vpn.laaco.net [38.99.244.2]) by mail.laaco.net (8.14.2/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m4SMcwgB008016 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 15:38:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@laaco.net) Received-On-Port: 20025 X-Port: 20025 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <803D1BFF-083E-45F9-B717-DDC6F43D96AE@laaco.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Greg Himes Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:38:53 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 38.99.244.3 Subject: Kernel Panic: isp - page fault while in kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 22:38:59 -0000 Hello All, Last week, one half of my dual port Qlogic fibre channel interface started causing a page fault panic while probing the second port at boot time. I was able to get the system back up by disabling the BIOS on the second port. The system still sees the 2nd port, but politely displays a few errors, then continues on. This all started after I powered the system down for maintenance. System is running FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE i386 What is the proper way to help debug this problem? Listed below is the boot info: /boot/kernel/acpi.ko text=0x44e84 data=0x24e0+0x1b8c syms=[0x4+0x7dc0 +0x4+0xab62] 786428K of memory above 4GB ignored Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.3-STABLE #11: Fri Apr 11 13:25:41 PDT 2008 greg@mail2.laaco.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LAACO WARNING: debug.mpsafenet forced to 0 as ipsec requires Giant WARNING: MPSAFE network stack disabled, expect reduced performance. module_register: module pci/bce already exists! Module pci/bce failed to register: 17 module_register: module bce/miibus already exists! Module bce/miibus failed to register: 17 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU 5160 @ 3.00GHz (3000.13-MHz 686- class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6f6 Stepping = 6 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x4e3bd AMD Features=0x20000000 AMD Features2=0x1 Cores per package: 2 real memory = 3487916032 (3326 MB) avail memory = 3408932864 (3251 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Apr 11 2008 13:25:27) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x908-0x90b on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 pcib0: on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 0.0 on pci4 pci5: on pcib2 pcib3: at device 0.0 on pci5 pci6: on pcib3 pcib4: at device 0.0 on pci6 pci7: on pcib4 bce0: mem 0xfa000000-0xfbffffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci7 miibus0: on bce0 brgphy0: on miibus0 brgphy0: 1000baseSX-FDX, auto bce0: Ethernet address: 00:17:a4:77:00:0a bce0: [GIANT-LOCKED] bce0: ASIC (0x57081021); Rev (B2); Bus (PCI-X, 64-bit, 133MHz); F/W (0x01090605); Flags( MSI ) pcib5: at device 1.0 on pci5 pci8: on pcib5 pcib6: at device 0.3 on pci4 pci9: on pcib6 pcib7: at device 3.0 on pci0 pci10: on pcib7 pcib8: at device 0.0 on pci10 pci11: on pcib8 pcib9: at device 4.0 on pci11 pci12: on pcib9 ciss0: port 0x4000-0x40ff mem 0xfdb80000-0xfdbfffff,0xfdb70000-0xfdb77fff irq 18 at device 8.0 on pci11 ciss0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcib10: at device 4.0 on pci0 pci13: on pcib10 ciss1: port 0x5000-0x50ff mem 0xfdd00000-0xfddfffff,0xfdcf0000-0xfdcf0fff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci13 ciss1: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcib11: at device 5.0 on pci0 pci16: on pcib11 pcib12: at device 0.0 on pci16 pci17: on pcib12 bge0: mem 0xfdef0000-0xfdefffff,0xfdee0000-0xfdeeffff irq 18 at device 4.0 on pci17 bge0: Ethernet address: 00:17:a4:77:00:24 bge0: [GIANT-LOCKED] bge1: mem 0xfded0000-0xfdedffff,0xfdec0000-0xfdecffff irq 19 at device 4.1 on pci17 bge1: Ethernet address: 00:17:a4:77:00:26 bge1: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcib13: at device 6.0 on pci0 pci19: on pcib13 isp0: port 0x6000-0x60ff mem 0xfdff0000-0xfdff3fff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci19 isp0: [GIANT-LOCKED] isp0: Board Type 2422, Chip Revision 0x2, resident F/W Revision 4.0.70 isp1: port 0x6400-0x64ff mem 0xfdfe0000-0xfdfe3fff irq 16 at device 0.1 on pci19 isp1: [GIANT-LOCKED] Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 fault virtual address = 0x2c fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc045f1ea stack pointer = 0x28:0xc1020660 frame pointer = 0x28:0xc1020660 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 0 (swapper) trap number = 12 panic: page fault cpuid = 0 Uptime: 1s Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 22:44:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8BB1065674 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:44:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@pleasants.net) Received: from moe.pleasants.net (moe.pleasants.net [70.229.152.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA588FC21 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:44:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@pleasants.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 18:28:03 -0400 Message-ID: <7A6C26B678F8EB48ADBA3A1C75FD250807106C@moe.pleasants.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: help with options BRIDGE in freebsd 7.0 Thread-Index: AcjBEherUBg2j2fER/Oo280orw6+2A== From: "cp" To: Subject: help with options BRIDGE in freebsd 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 22:44:28 -0000 I'd really appreciate if someone can shed some light on this for me. I'm attempting to build a layer2 sniffer using dummynet and ipfw but I'm having some problems building the new kernel with "options BRIDGE". It errors out with the message below. Any suggestions?=20 -cp lois# /usr/sbin/config LOIS=20 LOIS: unknown option "BRIDGE" freebsd version =3D 7.0 lois# more LOIS | grep IP options IPSEC options IPSEC_FILTERTUNNEL options IPSEC_DEBUG options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=3D100 options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD options IPDIVERT options IPFILTER options IPFILTER_LOG lois# more LOIS | grep BR options NETGRAPH_BRIDGE options BRIDGE lois# more LOIS | grep DUM options DUMMYNET lois# From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 23:01:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3BC1065673 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 23:01:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699F68FC16; Wed, 28 May 2008 23:01:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <483DE434.3090406@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 01:01:08 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Himes References: <803D1BFF-083E-45F9-B717-DDC6F43D96AE@laaco.net> In-Reply-To: <803D1BFF-083E-45F9-B717-DDC6F43D96AE@laaco.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel Panic: isp - page fault while in kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 23:01:10 -0000 Greg Himes wrote: > > Hello All, > > Last week, one half of my dual port Qlogic fibre channel interface > started causing a page fault panic while probing the second port at boot > time. > I was able to get the system back up by disabling the BIOS on the > second port. The system still sees the 2nd port, but politely > displays a few errors, then continues on. > > This all started after I powered the system down for maintenance. > System is running FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE i386 > > What is the proper way to help debug this problem? See the developers handbook. Kris P.S. And don't do this, you're crippling your network: > WARNING: MPSAFE network stack disabled, expect reduced performance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 23:01:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D3D1065672 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 23:01:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from raq3.nitrex.net (raq3.nitrex.net [213.165.226.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEFF08FC1C for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 23:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.10.141] (gate.zenatode.org.uk [213.165.225.167]) by raq3.nitrex.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m4SN1K7e027200 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 29 May 2008 00:01:26 +0100 Message-ID: <483DE440.8040308@onetel.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 00:01:20 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080528) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kurt Buff References: <26face530805241258y199474edkcef7f79f8569b216@mail.gmail.com> <4838981D.4010906@onetel.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unix command-line tools to edit SharePoint site? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 23:01:29 -0000 Kurt Buff wrote: > On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Chris Whitehouse wrote: >> Kelly Jones wrote: >>> I begrudgingly use a Windows SharePoint server at a customer's request. >>> >>> I'd like to automate (command-line) updating and creating documents, >>> lists, etc. >>> >>> Is there a Unix tool that does this? >>> >>> I know SharePoint has an "API", which basically spoofs the GET/POST >>> calls that your browser would make(?). >>> >>> Has anyone written a Unix command-line tool (or Perl module, etc) that >>> abstracts this? >> Is this what you want? >> >> http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ >> >> Chris > > If you want to use some/many/most of the core utils on Windows, you'll > be much better off with http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net > > unxutils seems pretty moribund, and I have not been successful > downloading the updates from that site for a while. > > Kurt I'll have a look at these, thanks for the suggestion. I have to say though the unxutils commands that I have used work perfectly well despite their age, don't require cygwin and don't do silly registry things on windows. I need this as I'm using them on a work computer which I am not allowed to install software on :P Chris > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1469 - Release Date: 5/27/2008 1:25 PM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 23:15:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98AC6106578C for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 23:15:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FAF38FC14 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 23:15:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2647383wfg.7 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:15:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=PlHo33aWIb4Ns4lS/Qw5RAzuBgLxKprNOs5SUOt+X7E=; b=UqVJjjpgTNxE4+noRQu5lbXYLH0GkFyZWARTXuVLhxbbhf3i+gvXOBJ9NAogG6G+Bgv9t23pEjAh9F01kJ5zfBE98byMvMJRgPJRed5JoIq3cVhJJSeyvPZNzP6ZdX7uxldomn6NWTD0p2D+iAB6eCQgFIlLn9KwmSg4g2tnZA4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SgE9Pk/ap0RyAqHBsIbbIEjMoYHmk5Me+6vQ5ETpy8K1Q2MihIxzsqjCFipEimj/U1IKcrjR6MK4ALQT3WLxLKwBtSXPoXDkwsC9SXq+L2tgcJonOIEsCrhoRrSXC3E0V4FamdxLGZb6GFJlPUcB7bIhs0Y3hiYqzjcN9rjuQiQ= Received: by 10.142.128.6 with SMTP id a6mr1265673wfd.331.1212016531162; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.87.9 with HTTP; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 16:15:31 -0700 From: "Kurt Buff" To: "Chris Whitehouse" In-Reply-To: <483DE440.8040308@onetel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <26face530805241258y199474edkcef7f79f8569b216@mail.gmail.com> <4838981D.4010906@onetel.com> <483DE440.8040308@onetel.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unix command-line tools to edit SharePoint site? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 23:15:31 -0000 On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Kurt Buff wrote: >> >> On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Chris Whitehouse >> wrote: >>> >>> Kelly Jones wrote: >>>> >>>> I begrudgingly use a Windows SharePoint server at a customer's request. >>>> >>>> I'd like to automate (command-line) updating and creating documents, >>>> lists, etc. >>>> >>>> Is there a Unix tool that does this? >>>> >>>> I know SharePoint has an "API", which basically spoofs the GET/POST >>>> calls that your browser would make(?). >>>> >>>> Has anyone written a Unix command-line tool (or Perl module, etc) that >>>> abstracts this? >>> >>> Is this what you want? >>> >>> http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ >>> >>> Chris >> >> If you want to use some/many/most of the core utils on Windows, you'll >> be much better off with http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net >> >> unxutils seems pretty moribund, and I have not been successful >> downloading the updates from that site for a while. >> >> Kurt > > I'll have a look at these, thanks for the suggestion. I have to say though > the unxutils commands that I have used work perfectly well despite their > age, don't require cygwin and don't do silly registry things on windows. I > need this as I'm using them on a work computer which I am not allowed to > install software on :P > > Chris The unxutils work well, but the gnuwin32 stuff is a bit more current, and more complete. They don't require any registry fiddling nor extra DLLs, either, just like the unxutils stuff. I stick them in a directory, and set my path up with that. Works well for me, anyway. HTH, Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 00:24:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744ED1065671 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 00:24:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428308FC1A for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 00:24:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 7640648; Wed, 28 May 2008 20:24:07 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 7640646 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 20:23:55 -0400 Message-ID: <483DF79B.1010704@radel.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 20:23:55 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <18493.25160.836101.941905@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20080528140856.GA30599@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <2b677bda0805280731x45fc2dd4ra62a2657e11641c1@mail.gmail.com> <483D831A.7080000@gmail.com> <80A74452-ABF0-43EC-92A0-1166C1281098@goldmark.org> <20080528220808.G11389@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <483DC21D.9090209@ctors.net> In-Reply-To: <483DC21D.9090209@ctors.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010807040704060702060908" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 00:24:08 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010807040704060702060908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom Van Looy wrote: > > Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> been happy with using soekris net48XX boxes using m0n0wall >> small but expensive. used 486-pentium hardware is for free. > > No it's not, they consume electricity. Soekris boxes are designed for > low-power. I had a 4501 and now have a 5501. And, other than in hobbyist's private networks and things built with volunteer labor, there are generally labor costs. 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t86KnyDFPzqCuaFtSfZoCOff8meqNtiHw1zZTb/FBmQXQkjJfwAAAAAAAA== --------------ms010807040704060702060908-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 00:39:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D571065670 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 00:39:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5678FC14 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 00:39:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so3824532rvf.43 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 17:39:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=p5/4mCuCVvZKuacPwg/ldRwX6yI9rG3QDR7JwUPw/do=; b=Eg/cqy9gA5VgCNWMup8Oyq0Z3zvFRvx+5sOTq0aHXEt4BeWuSiA3Pk2tuNkbbgV6BFMyLf21xmXk2sLQVyemqs6mWxVhnHdvEKjqO3LjqhBWcaPCf1YBzQQU0pg376Cw5uwVV/CEPCJpBL+Sjf7X0sgkapPVJT0jkZ9BAd85toA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=UwW9eFBUYSONy2vUsBB4zLQF5F+raMgBj/Ayb6Kir9KrN4xL9q8gmhB8ZwM4DslmOoM+zKXUZk/Eyrike3TPQEZyhPnJOJwBHw2GOi2Zewbl3N1x9qvxpSsNeLzmzdUyyZ7nMR8Xa7XLgWpEHVpDpRY+YIo+LBNxqglF2sRr3wo= Received: by 10.115.58.18 with SMTP id l18mr3533788wak.177.1212021591403; Wed, 28 May 2008 17:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.108.6 with HTTP; Wed, 28 May 2008 17:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5635aa0d0805281739p72ba8954ta8088d0d1e56254a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 07:39:51 +0700 From: "Outback Dingo" To: "Wojciech Puchar" In-Reply-To: <20080528234739.W11689@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <483DC6FA.7020100@el.net> <20080528234739.W11689@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: kalin m , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 ?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 00:39:52 -0000 I think maybe what he was expecting was a FreeBSD IA64 install on the box, but they installed AMD64 instead On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:48 AM, Wojciech Puchar < wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote: > >> so i'm a bit confused about the the 64 bit and why the machine is >> identifying itself as amd64 and not i686? >> > > because this intel CPU is 64-bit AMD compatible (x86-64 standard). > the rules changed and now intel make AMD-compatible CPUs > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 00:55:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4AA01065678 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 00:55:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53698FC0A; Thu, 29 May 2008 00:54:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <483DFEE3.1010701@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 02:54:59 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Outback Dingo References: <483DC6FA.7020100@el.net> <20080528234739.W11689@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <5635aa0d0805281739p72ba8954ta8088d0d1e56254a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5635aa0d0805281739p72ba8954ta8088d0d1e56254a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , kalin m , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 ?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 00:55:00 -0000 Outback Dingo wrote: > I think maybe what he was expecting was a FreeBSD IA64 install on the box, > but they installed AMD64 instead *Correctly* installed. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 01:31:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429ED1065672 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 01:31:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leadamc1@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308548FC18 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 01:31:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leadamc1@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j4so3153396wah.3 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:31:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=Usb8TzIFxA4hX/EWUYXQTqt4u8XoXqo3Fu81Y6+BXwM=; b=w1vG1BS1tsaO+iuDZ01ziz2c4QaZTetFIyyEtyn0KMmJdeuKWderBA+YcHMo1LqTj72hwgb62yk1acWu9Bo8tuGi3Fo/P3ykS1Ym3vZnvv+cX3LDExxNiTW1THlzPaT+ZtkT+CG+YBveu1J1bsq4cUFth6PNGF5nM6ig/tW4pBk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=NYbu5mfa0jy0MhGPC7AgN2hEH1ntphG7+Mnzqh9PDMbhS/SjpONPg95wS0gsId/8BdV1RY71L1sKMtJXhnr7V7q+fPgLQELmE6cVSrrA3FTDgLoq6GkDXGvag/UG3YiGkR9wYKm7xMIUnVAtVlLQaeRMUfEsVdk3j9NbSeXi/2s= Received: by 10.114.210.2 with SMTP id i2mr3585138wag.18.1212022960994; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PowerWS ( [124.243.156.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l22sm119152waf.26.2008.05.28.18.02.36 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 May 2008 18:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7C32B76A8BB84D1180F49F3DF9D8107C@PowerWS> From: "Lei Chen" To: Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 10:32:21 +0930 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: usb kbd and ums problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 01:31:04 -0000 I have a problem with my newly installed Freebsd6.3. I use USB keyboard = and mouse, when start it all goes well, but after system boot process = initalize usb2 controllers, both my keyboard and mouse disappear. I have = to physically unplug them and plug them in again to use them. I have ums_load=3D"YES" and ukbd_load=3D"YES" in /boot/loader.conf, but = not seems to solve the issue. PS. when I plug both keyboard and mouse into an external usb hub, it = works seamlessly. Any ideas? -- Lei http://icnpro.com/datacentre/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 04:28:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C334106566C for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 04:28:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0818FC18 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 04:28:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m4T4SVer039824; Wed, 28 May 2008 21:28:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jon Radel" , Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 21:29:33 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <483DF79B.1010704@radel.com> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Wed, 28 May 2008 21:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 04:28:34 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jon Radel > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 5:24 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... > > > Tom Van Looy wrote: > > > > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>> been happy with using soekris net48XX boxes using m0n0wall > >> small but expensive. used 486-pentium hardware is for free. > > > > No it's not, they consume electricity. Soekris boxes are designed for > > low-power. I had a 4501 and now have a 5501. > > And, other than in hobbyist's private networks and things built with > volunteer labor, there are generally labor costs. Rummaging in the junk > pile can get pretty expensive if you have to pay somebody to do it.... > That really depends on both the organization and the worker and what their job is and a lot of other things. For example, I manage people at an ISP. Their jobs are to run the network and answer customer support calls. If they are doing their jobs then the ISP runs well and we don't get many support calls. Thus some of their time they will be sitting idle. I don't adjust their job descriptions to permanently increase the amount of work they do because I don't want them tied up doing more work when a customer does call for support, and also because it is punishing them for doing a good job in the first place. Yet I don't want them sitting around playing computer games while they are waiting for a support call, either. In this case, if they are working on building some junk computer into a router then it is not critical work that they cannot set down immediately at any time if a customer calls. Yet it also keeps them busy and out of trouble, and contributes something to the business. And it teaches them something so their brains don't rot. My labor costs are going to be the same whether they are resurrecting some old PC or whether they are sitting twiddling their thumbs, so now please explain to me how it is that I am incurring expense paying someone to rummage in a junk pile? And there are also the cases of the government organizations who have money budgeted to upgrades but not capital expenses, and every expense over $500 must be justified to the nth degree. In those organizations you can spend $2K USD without seeking second level approval if you write a series of PO's for under $500 each, getting a hard disk on one, a power supply on another, a motherboard on a third, etc. But if you try to simply buy a PC all put together for less money you will get it slapped down. Dilbert even had a series of cartoons about this, one of the few series I've read that I didn't think was funny, as it simply described reality for a lot of people. So, yeah, there are a lot of organizations that do not function nice and neat like it says they should in the MBA courses. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 06:36:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFFD2106567F for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 06:36:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 940838FC27 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 06:36:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4T6adQ5018879; Thu, 29 May 2008 08:36:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m4T6acm3018876; Thu, 29 May 2008 08:36:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:36:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jeffrey Goldberg In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080529083529.S18869@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <18493.25160.836101.941905@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20080528140856.GA30599@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <2b677bda0805280731x45fc2dd4ra62a2657e11641c1@mail.gmail.com> <483D831A.7080000@gmail.com> <80A74452-ABF0-43EC-92A0-1166C1281098@goldmark.org> <20080528220808.G11389@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD List Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 06:36:48 -0000 > >> small but expensive. used 486-pentium hardware is for free. > > 486 hardware with three NICs, a CF drive, and run off of a few watts of DC > power tend not to free. that's the adventage. but edimax 6104K router with 5 ethernets running netbsd is both cheaper smaller and faster with it's 175Mhz 2 instr/cycle MIPS CPU. 16MB RAM+2MB flash isn't much but enough to fit. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 07:16:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE7DF1065674 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 07:16:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27558FC1B for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 07:16:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4T6vdPp063343; Wed, 28 May 2008 23:57:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 23:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 23:57:35 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 07:16:31 -0000 Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black on the deep-blue bg on my RHS. I stopped and checked with firefox; things looked fine. I've done all markup by hand since '94, very carefully, with only browsers in the ports tree-- mozilla, firefox, a couple others. About a week ago I viewed my homepage with KDE Konq and almost flipped out. One "free" commercial historical calender event feature was glued to the bottom of my blue bar (
) on the RHS of the page. And yep, the new text and other things were centered in the middle of the long blue rectangle. Since I have a few weeks now to work on things beside research, it's time to update my main web page. My friend was using IE; it may be that Konqueror uses a similar parser to position things on a .php or .html page. Other than beginning from Zero and trying to determine exactly what causes firefox and konq to diverge, do any of you have any other ideas? I've never learned an HTML editors because of the learning curve. But:: if/when I come up with a better design for my home page, I'm willing to try again:: any best (simple) HTML editors in ports? I'd be much obliged for any help here. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 07:29:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2FEB1065672 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 07:29:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1DEA8FC1C for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 07:29:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m4T7T2xA040838; Thu, 29 May 2008 00:29:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Gary Kline" , "FreeBSD Mailing List" Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 00:30:05 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Thu, 29 May 2008 00:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: RE: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 07:29:04 -0000 Don't bother, Gary. The world is moving towards CMS systems for hosting websites. The ultra-cheapo people use godaddy's site builder and put crap on a crappy-looking interface. The better hosting companies each have their own site builders and look better, and are populated by acres of garden-variety corporate and the occassional personal sites. Very, very few people custom-write sites in HTML anymore. Most people use sitebuilding software (frontpage was the original, it's deprecated now in favor of other newer tools) either running on their PC or on the server. black text on blue is terribly hard to read for most people, read up on how the human eye works to understand why. Put your time into loading a CMS system on your server then create your site in it. Yes the learning curve is steep in the beginning but it's not rote memorization of HTML tags. It is understanding how all the things work together. Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gary Kline > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:58 PM > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. > > > Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page > was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black > on the deep-blue bg on my RHS. I stopped and checked with > firefox; things looked fine. I've done all markup by hand since > '94, very carefully, with only browsers in the ports tree-- > mozilla, firefox, a couple others. > > About a week ago I viewed my homepage with KDE Konq and almost > flipped out. One "free" commercial historical calender event > feature was glued to the bottom of my blue bar (
) > on the RHS of the page. And yep, the new text and other things > were centered in the middle of the long blue rectangle. > > Since I have a few weeks now to work on things beside research, > it's time to update my main web page. My friend was using IE; > it may be that Konqueror uses a similar parser to position > things on a .php or .html page. > > Other than beginning from Zero and trying to determine exactly > what causes firefox and konq to diverge, do any of you have any > other ideas? I've never learned an HTML editors because of the > learning curve. But:: if/when I come up with a better design for > my home page, I'm willing to try again:: any best (simple) HTML > editors in ports? > > I'd be much obliged for any help here. > > > gary > > > > > > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 07:38:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF51F1065671 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 07:38:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from redchin@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFF18FC12 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 07:38:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from redchin@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so70515ana.13 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 00:38:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=kDrdzXTureJEMirBSc1cR7fp6S2Y4nr8jPMnnkSD7/A=; b=bvJ0hK7Pqb1BocWBzpmVXkKAKnAQgSOxfHq2/iYGHfWxrcFoHFb/FjAx2Zg6EOLVFjc+NqiyuEkBtXlFDxMFFAZdrsHHAAW8+hu2Zd4Nmfy8VIt9JveHN71qkCVE1qBvBnnYfZ7EhFK8jN3Rl08gj8weoJ+N7SUWd+Nac5YPTCA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eJ+cAGGkqumFFD2eDDIwlihoQ5WvXI6TPQtq+ItIR7ahwOdOVRaOdj/3Hb90wjyg3sOHBQvAke74oOFM1EaklMItGrp9uC7NE2E1g/c+l/QwnCBmnYR9aHRSuRe5AeIAuOjT5gf6IWswwsbbSnAOGrweCAQnYKB9noNKYZ3DyZo= Received: by 10.100.108.20 with SMTP id g20mr5745937anc.105.1212046685878; Thu, 29 May 2008 00:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.166.14 with HTTP; Thu, 29 May 2008 00:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1d3ed48c0805290038m5098e34bne51f919c9094ae04@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 00:38:05 -0700 From: "Kevin Downey" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 07:38:07 -0000 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > Don't bother, Gary. > > The world is moving towards CMS systems for hosting websites. > > The ultra-cheapo people use godaddy's site builder and > put crap on a crappy-looking interface. > > The better hosting companies each have their own site builders > and look better, and are populated by acres of garden-variety corporate > and the occassional personal sites. > > Very, very few people custom-write sites in HTML anymore. > Most people use sitebuilding software (frontpage was the original, > it's deprecated now in favor of other newer tools) either running > on their PC or on the server. > > black text on blue is terribly hard to read for most people, > read up on how the human eye works to understand why. > > Put your time into loading a CMS system on your server then > create your site in it. Yes the learning curve is steep in > the beginning but it's not rote memorization of HTML tags. It > is understanding how all the things work together. > > Ted > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gary Kline >> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:58 PM >> To: FreeBSD Mailing List >> Subject: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. >> >> >> Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page >> was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black >> on the deep-blue bg on my RHS. I stopped and checked with >> firefox; things looked fine. I've done all markup by hand since >> '94, very carefully, with only browsers in the ports tree-- >> mozilla, firefox, a couple others. >> >> About a week ago I viewed my homepage with KDE Konq and almost >> flipped out. One "free" commercial historical calender event >> feature was glued to the bottom of my blue bar (
) >> on the RHS of the page. And yep, the new text and other things >> were centered in the middle of the long blue rectangle. >> >> Since I have a few weeks now to work on things beside research, >> it's time to update my main web page. My friend was using IE; >> it may be that Konqueror uses a similar parser to position >> things on a .php or .html page. >> >> Other than beginning from Zero and trying to determine exactly >> what causes firefox and konq to diverge, do any of you have any >> other ideas? I've never learned an HTML editors because of the >> learning curve. But:: if/when I come up with a better design for >> my home page, I'm willing to try again:: any best (simple) HTML >> editors in ports? >> >> I'd be much obliged for any help here. >> >> >> gary >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix >> http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org >> >> Let be the first of many to say, please do not top post. In a recent interview it was revealed that the New York Times does a lot of by hand html writing because it just gets you better html. Konq uses more or less the same rendering engine as Safari. http://iamvoodoochile.redgrapellc.com/uploaded_images/1985-741912.jpg -- break down of modern webdesign -- The Mafia way is that we pursue larger goals under the guise of personal relationships. Fisheye From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 07:39:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B2AF10656BD for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 07:39:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrizach@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5293C8FC1D for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 07:39:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrizach@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so3982610rvf.43 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 00:39:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=D5HLVr/lKJMcGi6eoywdVCGSF7cGiXPkg3n0L/9P24U=; b=dag4JFUbG+LV223zvgaRsyK/rh95/Rqo9TJtd43nlpz7EfRLaroZdfT7bp6Ydr8J71q0UlMHgdy3pwmGsUUUgxi9PIwu9l8v3yl1jWWX4D82JjEJ3btmbfkaLrxZjBM8P0tX7aNlOOWt/CueGOo+re90TuS0BD3rEDhyCSvByVs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=az+s4Ylo1rCDLZHDeLJbs9gokivDmn/ShSZMHAKHBtA6zRAaLBHb83lrLbDsX91yL1HYFmZGTKvs3ShdZ+I/T8BZzDU3NEWVzWCiTB04QDKIdogEp7eIkaY+JIZ8T/RbmekE8V3ufCiRIPeAMuqZ+ea+G119vLfGIPSkXQaDsWU= Received: by 10.141.137.8 with SMTP id p8mr1406832rvn.163.1212046746192; Thu, 29 May 2008 00:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.142.18 with HTTP; Thu, 29 May 2008 00:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4a89d1190805290039k1f2dedb1he342b4a83d7453a6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 09:39:06 +0200 From: "Christian Zachariasen" To: "Gary Kline" , "FreeBSD Mailing Lists" In-Reply-To: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 07:39:07 -0000 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page > was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black > on the deep-blue bg on my RHS. I stopped and checked with > firefox; things looked fine. I've done all markup by hand since > '94, very carefully, with only browsers in the ports tree-- > mozilla, firefox, a couple others. > > About a week ago I viewed my homepage with KDE Konq and almost > flipped out. One "free" commercial historical calender event > feature was glued to the bottom of my blue bar (
) > on the RHS of the page. And yep, the new text and other things > were centered in the middle of the long blue rectangle. > > Since I have a few weeks now to work on things beside research, > it's time to update my main web page. My friend was using IE; > it may be that Konqueror uses a similar parser to position > things on a .php or .html page. > > Other than beginning from Zero and trying to determine exactly > what causes firefox and konq to diverge, do any of you have any > other ideas? I've never learned an HTML editors because of the > learning curve. But:: if/when I come up with a better design for > my home page, I'm willing to try again:: any best (simple) HTML > editors in ports? > > I'd be much obliged for any help here. > > > gary > > > > > > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I say keep using the technique you're using now. That's what I'd do. Instead of finding a HTML Editor just find a simple text editor and write all your HTML in a clean manner. I don't know where Ted got his statistics from, but most people I know use simple text editors for writing their HTML, CSS and JavaScript. Personally I stick to vi or diakonos on BSD and Notepad2 on Windows. Christian Zachariasen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 07:41:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1311065674 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 07:41:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A568FC18 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 07:41:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from lack-of-gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4T7eqD5019517 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 29 May 2008 08:41:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.5.5 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m4T7eqD5019517 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1212046860; bh=UkcIIGTSj0Gv71 j31bviPdCVgrIiRPh6TBRgGar0lds=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<483E5E04.9 090400@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Thu,=2029=20May=202008=2008: 40:52=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird= 202.0.0.14=20(X11/20080506)|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Gary=20Kline= 20|CC:=20FreeBSD=20Mailing=20List=20|Subject:=20Re:=20Stumped::=20web=20HTML.=20=20C aution,=20may=20be=20OT.|References:=20<20080529065732.GA36261@thou ght.org>|In-Reply-To:=20<20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org>|X-Enig mail-Version:=200.95.0|Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3DUT F-8|Content-Transfer-Encoding:=207bit; b=WE+WzvahGf8Cv/Y0MkZm3D6ves neo+D13iPfa8kZ6Sy9kITC7rH6GYDkBZMykSEsrOrIK1RBq7rJleHxNE1f2xx0t6kKS GLkM3Okm3fv8ueXIMNX9suUZSoZjgGOoruB9LmLnzwZPi+hcofsZuP3lZPDQL3YNIpa H63mXAb45i8= Message-ID: <483E5E04.9090400@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:40:52 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080506) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]); Thu, 29 May 2008 08:41:00 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93, clamav-milter version 0.93 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 07:41:06 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Gary Kline wrote: > Other than beginning from Zero and trying to determine exactly > what causes firefox and konq to diverge, do any of you have any > other ideas? I've never learned an HTML editors because of the > learning curve. But:: if/when I come up with a better design for > my home page, I'm willing to try again:: any best (simple) HTML > editors in ports? It's bit OT really. But wotthehell, wotthehell. I've found the best approach is to make liberal use of http://validator.w3.org/ -- if your HTML validates correctly according to which ever standard you apply, and similarly if your CSS validates correctly as CSS 2.0 then you should get a pretty similar result in virtually all browsers. Use HTML Tidy (ports: www/tidy-devel) to clean up your HTML automatically, and strongly prefer CSS over in-line formatting as tidy steers you towards. One thing to watch out for though is an important difference between the XHTML 1.0 standard and the HTML 4.01 standard (http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/) XHTML 1.0 is an XML language and should be served using the 'application/xml+xhtml' MIME type, unlike HTML 4.01 which should be served as 'text/html' (http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/NOTE-xhtml-media-types-20020801/) I've found that this can make quite a difference to the way a page is rendered in FireFox. The HTML 4.01 standard is probably your best bet for maximum interoperability with all sorts of different desktop browsers, whereas XHTML is better if you need access by stuff like Mobile Phones or text-to-speech systems for the blind. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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(VPS 080529-0, 29/05/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Sender: news Subject: Renaming "root" to "homer"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:40:45 -0000 Hello With all those scripts trying to connect to SSHd as "root", I was wondering if it'd be OK to rename this account to eg. "homer", to act as a first line of defense? Are there unknown consequences to doing something like that? If not, is it done by just editing /etc/password with vi, or is there a better way? Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 08:47:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526F8106566C for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 08:47:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrizach@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23BBE8FC1F for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 08:47:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrizach@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so4004313rvf.43 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 01:47:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=siwAPbamOFhqpnIBHhvThYSxGs7BPS2Nfo8MDk46DWs=; b=viXFC3mp4SR7tA60lO1YM6xgaKr4//mRpmK96yqMYJsEXJu37RBYZIZkI8ZZN4BEdvY5IsQ5SKvaAUZrP/+P3KCQ4udBg9E4e9jqIlJaoiCaJNqMJZmQdARqzyMJHcTd6xik9w8YB7tBudpWkRKCOwEQp3tZVDGJexsHH3qD9Cs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=vwl6XUH0Rf/7NiY0aGTX/RVK0o/QODGUn2PFPs15wkdRpn7Au5PKO2tZq/asDIgal31aFQv8lLOOXUgQQ8onLPNVuOgPhnNhTu2yy2JO+EyPe32W7NnZ37V21y+K0vwd/ys7rGsZZA2abANUo/Mj4Zr114PFn4AS9fnUBDbwpbw= Received: by 10.140.201.8 with SMTP id y8mr1900863rvf.28.1212050859650; Thu, 29 May 2008 01:47:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.142.18 with HTTP; Thu, 29 May 2008 01:47:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4a89d1190805290147g7ced55bdy11c44b71a8d2d788@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 10:47:39 +0200 From: "Christian Zachariasen" To: Gilles , "FreeBSD Mailing Lists" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Renaming "root" to "homer"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:47:40 -0000 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Gilles wrote: > Hello > > With all those scripts trying to connect to SSHd as "root", I was > wondering if it'd be OK to rename this account to eg. "homer", to act > as a first line of defense? > > Are there unknown consequences to doing something like that? > > If not, is it done by just editing /etc/password with vi, or is there > a better way? > > Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Sorry, forgot to send this to the mailing list as well: Not recommended. Instead edit your sshd_config file and change the option PermitRootLogin to "no". Christian Zachariasen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 08:48:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6D7106564A for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 08:48:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from mx.utwente.nl (unknown [IPv6:2001:610:1908:1000:204:23ff:feb7:b8fe]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D97B18FC1C for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 08:48:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from lux.student.utwente.nl (lux.student.utwente.nl [130.89.170.81]) by mx.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m4T8mSbk013364; Thu, 29 May 2008 10:48:28 +0200 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 10:48:27 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200805291048.28277.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact servicedesk@icts.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Gilles Subject: Re: Renaming "root" to "homer"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:48:36 -0000 On Thursday 29 May 2008, Gilles wrote: > Hello > > With all those scripts trying to connect to SSHd as "root", I was > wondering if it'd be OK to rename this account to eg. "homer", to act > as a first line of defense? > > Are there unknown consequences to doing something like that? > > If not, is it done by just editing /etc/password with vi, or is there > a better way? > > Thank you. Unless you have explicitly set PermitRootLogin to yes in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, it is not possible to login as root using ssh. -- Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 08:51:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740CD1065672 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 08:51:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB978FC22 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 08:51:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K1drU-0003Dz-U7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 08:51:52 +0000 Received: from mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net ([82.237.75.54]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 08:51:52 +0000 Received: from gilles.ganault by mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 08:51:52 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Gilles Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 10:51:45 +0200 Lines: 9 Message-ID: <9irs34l6dbdpttkvlo23mpd0qbmvh7l1vk@4ax.com> References: <200805291048.28277.pieter@degoeje.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080529-0, 29/05/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Sender: news Subject: Re: Renaming "root" to "homer"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:51:57 -0000 On Thu, 29 May 2008 10:48:27 +0200, Pieter de Goeje wrote: >Unless you have explicitly set PermitRootLogin to yes in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, >it is not possible to login as root using ssh. Right. I did this because I was tired of having to log on as homer and then sudo'ing to root, using two complicated passwords :-/ I guess I should learn how to use public/private keys instead. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 10:04:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6AD0106564A for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 10:04:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cb@lim.nl) Received: from lim.nl (78-27-17-22.dsl.alice.nl [78.27.17.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF528FC18 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 10:04:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cb@lim.nl) Received: by venus (Postfix, from userid 80) id D67265C38; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:04:39 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:04:39 +0200 From: Colin Brace Message-ID: X-Sender: cb@lim.nl User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: SATA support & custom v7.0 kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 10:04:51 -0000 Hi all, I'd like to add a SATA drive to a P4 box that I use as a gateway/server. The MB doesn't have a SATA interface, so I stuck an Initio-based SATA card in the box. The kernel recognizes the card, but the attached drive wasn't displayed when I started up sysinstall to format it. I'm wondering whether I am missing SATA support. I commented out a bunch of stuff such as the SCSI controllers when I compiled the kernel with ALTQ support, but these options *are* included: # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) device ch # SCSI media changers device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) Should this be enough? I don't see any specific references to SATA in the handbook Thanks. $ uname -a FreeBSD venus.lim.nl 7.0-STABLE FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #4: Mon Mar 3 15:07:21 CET 2008 root@venus.lim.nl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/VENUS i386 -- Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 10:09:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B99A1065690 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 10:09:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net (pih-relay04.plus.net [212.159.14.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CD68FC62 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 10:09:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=milibyte.co.uk) by pih-relay04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1K1f4e-0006Ow-RG; Thu, 29 May 2008 11:09:33 +0100 Received: by milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K1f4e-0000rn-5x; Thu, 29 May 2008 11:09:32 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 11:09:31 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200805291048.28277.pieter@degoeje.nl> <9irs34l6dbdpttkvlo23mpd0qbmvh7l1vk@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <9irs34l6dbdpttkvlo23mpd0qbmvh7l1vk@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200805291109.32027.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: b8703f3576cf09c9f06aaaf4559689c2 Cc: Gilles Subject: Re: Renaming "root" to "homer"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 10:09:35 -0000 On Thursday 29 May 2008, Gilles wrote: > On Thu, 29 May 2008 10:48:27 +0200, Pieter de Goeje > > wrote: > >Unless you have explicitly set PermitRootLogin to yes in > > /etc/ssh/sshd_config, it is not possible to login as root using > > ssh. > > Right. I did this because I was tired of having to log on as homer > and then sudo'ing to root, using two complicated passwords :-/ > > I guess I should learn how to use public/private keys instead. If using keys instead of passwords you could consider setting PermitRootLogin to "without-password". It's a misleading choice of name for the option but it ensures that root using ssh must use keys instead of a password. Adding your own public key to /root/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote machine avoids the need for you to remember the remote password. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 10:13:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB441065677 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 10:13:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@violetlan.net) Received: from mail.violetlan.net (host-80-81-242-13.violetlan.net [80.81.242.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5595E8FC16 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 10:13:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@violetlan.net) Received: from mail.violetlan.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.violetlan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EF211460 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 11:14:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from www.violetlan.net (mbali.violetlan.net [10.0.100.150]) by mail.violetlan.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8272511426 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 11:14:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from 212.183.134.209 (SquirrelMail authenticated user freebsd@violetlan.net) by www.violetlan.net with HTTP; Thu, 29 May 2008 11:13:35 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <28936.212.183.134.209.1212056015.squirrel@www.violetlan.net> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 11:13:35 +0100 (BST) From: "Reinhold" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: mpd5 stoped working after subnet change X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 10:13:10 -0000 Hi I'm using mpd5 for pptp connections and last night I had to change our subnet from 192.168.1.0/24 to 10.1.10.0/24 after I've made all the changes to all the config files I rebooted and everything is working except for pptp. I'm using mpd5 for 2 x adsl pppoe and pptp. Here is the pptp section pptp: set ippool add pool1 10.1.10.220 10.1.10.239 create bundle template B set iface enable proxy-arp set iface idle 1800 set iface enable tcpmssfix set ipcp yes vjcomp set ipcp ranges 10.1.10.1/32 ippool pool1 set ipcp dns 10.1.10.5 208.67.222.222 set bundle enable compression set bundle enable crypt-reqd set ccp yes mppc set mppc yes e40 set mppc yes e128 set mppc yes stateless create link template L pptp set link action bundle B set link enable multilink set link yes acfcomp protocomp set link no pap chap set link enable chap set link keep-alive 10 60 set link mtu 1460 set pptp self external-ip set link enable incoming and then in my pf.conf if_pptp = "{ ng2, ng3, ng4, ng5, ng6, ng7, ng8, ng9, ng10, ng11, ng12, ng13, ng14, ng15, ng16, ng17, ng18, mg19, ng20, ng21 }" # PPTP in WAN1 pass quick log on $ext_if1 inet proto gre all keep state pass quick log on $ext_if1 proto {tcp, udp } from any to 217.41.34.61 port = 1723 keep state pass quick log on $if_pptp from any to any keep state I'm getting an Error 800: Unable to establish a VPN connection. This used to work well before I changed the subnet last night. Any idea why its not working anymore? Thanks Reinhold From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 10:33:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4739106567A for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 10:33:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raghu@mri.ernet.in) Received: from hrimail.hri.res.in (hrimail.hri.res.in [210.212.50.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7AAF8FC21 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 10:33:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raghu@mri.ernet.in) Received: from ipc2.mri.ernet.in (unknown [192.168.3.2]) by hrimail.hri.res.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F44D97EAB; Thu, 29 May 2008 16:10:10 +0530 (IST) Received: from ipc2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ipc2 (Postfix) with SMTP id E7AD71D597; Thu, 29 May 2008 16:03:46 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (riemann.mri.ernet.in [192.168.3.122]) by ipc2.mri.ernet.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D5A1D2D0; Thu, 29 May 2008 16:03:46 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by riemann.mri.ernet.in (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m4TAS0CG085117; Thu, 29 May 2008 15:58:00 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu@riemann.mri.ernet.in) Received: (from raghu@localhost) by riemann.mri.ernet.in (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m4TAS0Tp085116; Thu, 29 May 2008 15:58:00 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu) From: "N. Raghavendra" To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> (Gary Kline's message of "Wed, 28 May 2008 23:57:35 -0700") References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) X-Organization: Harish-Chandra Research Institute (HRI) X-Address: Chhatnag Road, Jhusi, Allahabad 211 019, India X-URL: http://www.mri.ernet.in/ and http://www.retrotexts.net/ X-Phone: +91 (532) 2667 509, 2667 318, 2667 578, 2567 746, 2567 747 X-Fax: +91 (532) 2667 576, 2567 748, 2567 444, 2568 036 X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0x03618806 X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: C75D D0AF 457E 7454 BEC2 37AD C6E1 0407 0361 8806 X-OpenPGP-Public-Key-Available-At: http://www.keyserver.net/ Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 15:58:00 +0530 Message-ID: <864p8hpfpr.fsf@riemann.mri.ernet.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "N. Raghavendra" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 10:33:55 -0000 At 2008-05-28T23:57:35-07:00, Gary Kline wrote: > Other than beginning from Zero and trying to determine exactly what > causes firefox and konq to diverge, do any of you have any other > ideas? I've never learned an HTML editors because of the learning > curve. But:: if/when I come up with a better design for my home > page, I'm willing to try again:: any best (simple) HTML editors in > ports? My suggestion would be to just write HTML which conforms to a standard. For instance, the main page at your Web site `www.thought.org' declares its DOCTYPE as W3C HTML 4.01 Transitional, but validating it at http://validator.w3.org/ against that standard produces several errors. If all those errors are fixed, your pages will be rendered properly by all browsers that support these standards, see, e.g., http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/abdesign3.html http://browsehappy.com/browsers/ As for editors, I suggest Emacs with PSGML mode (editors/psgml). Rather than depending on the validator at W3C, you can install textproc/opensp, and use onsgmls(1) to validate your HTML documents without traversing the Internet, with something like onsgmls -c ~/catalog -egsu foo.html HTH, Raghavendra. -- N. Raghavendra | http://www.retrotexts.net/ Harish-Chandra Research Institute | http://www.mri.ernet.in/ See message headers for contact and OpenPGP information. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 11:05:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2D7106566C for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 11:05:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from jedburgh.just4dns.com (jedburgh.just4dns.com [78.129.134.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9831A8FC25 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 11:05:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from [86.153.243.228] (helo=movens.plus.com) by jedburgh.just4dns.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K1fw0-0000de-5r for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:04:40 +0100 Received: from [10.10.1.4] (redshift [10.10.1.4]) by postbag.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A7D1CCBD for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:04:46 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <483E8DCD.9030204@magichamster.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:04:45 +0100 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080524) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483DA3FA.9030404@magichamster.com> <20080528192227.GB78305@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <483DB493.3060901@magichamster.com> <20080528201133.GA79784@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20080528201133.GA79784@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 1K1fw0-0000de-5r X-Fuzioned-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-From: parish@magichamster.com X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jedburgh.just4dns.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - magichamster.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: External USB disk won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 11:05:06 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 08:37:55PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: >> Roland Smith wrote: >>> >>> You could try using the atausb driver instead of umass. Unfortunately it >>> doesn't have a manpage yet, but you have to unload umass if you want to >>> use atausb. >>> >> >> Thanks Roland, but I can't find atausb in either 6.3 or 7.0 - is it a kld >> module? > > Yes; > > $ locate atausb > /usr/src/sys/modules/ata/atausb > /usr/src/sys/modules/ata/atausb/Makefile > > (This is on 7-STABLE) > >> Presumably, it would not work with other usb mass storage devices like >> memory sticks or phones? > > It should work with all usb mass storage devices, I think. It just seems > to be tied into the ata subsystem instead of into the scsi subsystem via > atapicam. > Hi Roland, I had to rebuild the kernel without umass in it first, but here's the result. It attaches the device as an ata rather than umass - but no devices are created for the slices/partitions on the disk. atausb0: using SCSI over Bulk-Only ata2: on atausb0 /boot/kernel{105}# ls /dev/ata* /dev/ata /boot/kernel{106}# ls /dev/ad* ls: No match. /boot/kernel{107}# kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 10 0xc0400000 4e1cb8 kernel 2 1 0xc08e2000 21ef8 linux.ko 3 1 0xc0904000 65de0 acpi.ko 4 1 0xc5898000 5000 atausb.ko 5 1 0xc589d000 d000 ata.ko /boot/kernel{108}# I've only tried it on 6.3 at the moment and atausb/Makefile didn't exist, so I copied it from 7.0, it built and installed without error, the module kldload'd without error, and it finds the device so I assume it should be OK in 6.3 even though the Makefile doesn't get cvsup'd? Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 12:00:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB45F106566B for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400358FC1B for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m4TBxpUH042634; Thu, 29 May 2008 04:59:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Kevin Downey" Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 05:00:57 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <1d3ed48c0805290038m5098e34bne51f919c9094ae04@mail.gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Thu, 29 May 2008 04:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: RE: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:00:00 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Downey [mailto:redchin@gmail.com] >=20 > Let be the first of many to say, please do not top post. Let me be the first to say please don't quote the entire posting and the entire response. > In a recent interview it was revealed that the New York Times does a > lot of by hand html writing because it just gets you better html. Of course it does. And I would expect a really professional site to do so. But, your not paying attention to what he is saying: "... trying to determine exactly what causes firefox and konq to = diverge..." An html author who writes by hand MUST know about ALL browser=20 idiosyncracies. The OP does not want to know this or he would have TESTED with all browsers years ago. And the context indicates he really doesen't want to know. "...I've never learned an HTML editors because of the learning curve..." Have you visited this guy's website and actually READ it? This isn't a stupid person here. Anyone who gets an engineering degree is perfectly capabably of surmounting the learning curve. He DOESEN'T WANT TO DO IT. His website IS NOT the usual "techie" website full of instructions on how to write better html, use this, that and so on. He's simply not interested in that - at least, not enough to actually want to spend any time learning an HTML editor. He doesen't WANT to surmount the learning curve, it is NOT that he CAN'T DO IT. What he wants is a shortcut, a means to QUICKLY get what he has to say online, with minimal work, that will look OK in all browsers. He doesen't want the world's greatest website. He just wants it good enough so that people will read his philosophy, which is what he is really interested in. Not all this html stuff. This comprises the VAST MAJORITY of all people posting stuff to the web. Of course, most of them are using template sites, or myspace, or facebook, or whatever. You might think a facebook user isn't a web designer, but she thinks she is. She is doing the same thing a web designer does - put her information onto the web so other people can read it. And she is using a CMS that takes care of all the icky details of making her stuff look the same across all browsers. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 12:23:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F42C1065671; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:23:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pjd@garage.freebsd.pl) Received: from mail.garage.freebsd.pl (chello087206046210.chello.pl [87.206.46.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFF38FC17; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:23:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pjd@garage.freebsd.pl) Received: by mail.garage.freebsd.pl (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 9D12045F21; Thu, 29 May 2008 14:00:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (pjd.wheel.pl [10.0.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.garage.freebsd.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D88E45EA4; Thu, 29 May 2008 14:00:22 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 14:00:22 +0200 From: Pawel Jakub Dawidek To: Aaron Holmes Message-ID: <20080529120022.GE3159@garage.freebsd.pl> References: <48373178.4080909@aaronholmes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ep0oHQY+/Gbo/zt0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48373178.4080909@aaronholmes.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Key-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~pjd/pjd.asc X-OS: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT i386 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail.garage.freebsd.pl X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.9 required=3.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.4 Cc: freebsd-rc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Delaying mount of UFS filesystem in ZFS pool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:23:11 -0000 --ep0oHQY+/Gbo/zt0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 02:04:56PM -0700, Aaron Holmes wrote: > I have a UFS filesystem inside a zpool: > tank on /tank (zfs, local) > /dev/zvol/tank/ufs on /mnt/ufs (ufs, local, acls) >=20 > If I add that entry (/dev/zvol/tank/ufs) to /etc/fstab, it will try to=20 > mount as a critical filesystem on boot, however, because ZFS hasn't yet= =20 > loaded, this fails and causes all sorts of fun for me. > Currently I have that filesystem mounting via a cronjob that checks=20 > every minute if it's mounted.. definitely not ideal. >=20 > I need this filesystem in /etc/fstab so I can setup quotas on it (if=20 > there is some other way to get quotas working, great, point me to a link= =20 > or two). >=20 > So what I'm thinking for a solution is to delay the mount of this=20 > filesystem until ZFS has loaded, but I'm not sure of a way to do this=20 > with the filesystem in /etc/fstab, and without extensive hacking to one= =20 > or more rc scripts. >=20 > Ideas? Adding 'late' flag in "Options" section to the fstab entry may help, although I don't think it will help with quotas: # rcorder /etc/rc.d/* [...] /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal [...] /etc/rc.d/zfs [...] /etc/rc.d/mountcritremote [...] /etc/rc.d/quota [...] /etc/rc.d/mountlate [...] We might consider running rc.d/quota after rc.d/mountlate, not sure if it won't break something else. I added freebsd-rc@ to CC. --=20 Pawel Jakub Dawidek http://www.wheel.pl pjd@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer Am I Evil? Yes, I Am! --ep0oHQY+/Gbo/zt0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFIPprWForvXbEpPzQRAo71AKD1d+r8dpZX6Fi/5sId8/RRWMIMqACgk6cY TMtS2jlDOghaCtAMp4Z3T1E= =aQL9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ep0oHQY+/Gbo/zt0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 12:24:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94D71065671 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:24:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norman.maurer@googlemail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9AD8FC2C for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:24:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norman.maurer@googlemail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so2333762fgb.35 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 05:24:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=T9lGSJigvRNxwsiCjiTP5uy751Pn+o9/x26CBaJyefE=; b=haHEGwc2K+7YB1Oooxu3OGSvxCvjwRIUiC6Q17FIzdWcrqby879zW2WkwM4zmSktQHynCFxa5lOsI7LjZIMb9kIkwJs9Z8DjJpplL/7AQUmKRz+MuWlSzbjTU7hyCZ80KSYdnJudawTzT0aiINsD1xQaXlRop6Uuypt7rNURgd8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=tsvNY2EJ4GOpS1AgZBApKQu+i4+aqt5UK5i1AsKORqQQpg8OjpRCGWxCxfQs/mTyhhZIIZ+AlfGUSuBlGV8VOCmgShNSLRy5byfDZ7YIpKGJ1TFJiumhCbrmjoLcDb0UopEHlZp1IM9ml5wwfQ9eFSWRhyGbfegmWC7lXLLK+Pw= Received: by 10.86.73.3 with SMTP id v3mr2048639fga.68.1212063894798; Thu, 29 May 2008 05:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.97.12 with HTTP; Thu, 29 May 2008 05:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <75bda7a00805290524ieb3987bq7725c75a50f110e6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 14:24:54 +0200 From: "Norman Maurer" Sender: norman.maurer@googlemail.com To: "Pawel Jakub Dawidek" In-Reply-To: <20080529120843.GF3159@garage.freebsd.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1207919596.3113.1.camel@norman-laptop> <20080411134128.7fc373b0@mkproductions.org> <20080529120843.GF3159@garage.freebsd.pl> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 704be4675278b57c Cc: Mark Kane , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: zfs list and non-root user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:24:56 -0000 Hi, even if the zfs module is loaded I get the error message: [norman@harmonia ~]$ kldstat | grep zfs 7 1 0xfffffffffcc1c000 80ee8 zfs.ko [norman@harmonia ~]$ zfs list internal error: failed to initialize ZFS library Anyway thx for the info.. At least now I know why it "should" not work ;-) bye Norman 2008/5/29 Pawel Jakub Dawidek : > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 01:41:28PM -0500, Mark Kane wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008, at 15:13:16 +0200, Norman Maurer wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > is it normal that I can't do a 'zfs list' ( for example ) as non-root >> > user ? >> > >> > $ zfs list >> > internal error: failed to initialize ZFS library >> > >> > I think there is really a use case for use some zfs commands as >> > non-root user.. >> > >> > Thx >> > Norman >> >> Hi. >> >> One way to do this as a non-root user is to add the account to the >> "operator" group. This is what I do on my personal desktop machine >> and it has worked fine, but I understand that may not be best in all >> cases. >> >> You might also try changing the permissions on /dev/zfs. I don't do >> this method and I'm not sure if it's a proper way, but from trying it >> very briefly it seems to work correctly with the user not in the >> "operator" group. > > In Solaris anyone can open /dev/zfs and the kernel side of ZFS decides > if the user has permission to perform some action or not. In FreeBSD we > try to be more careful for now, but it will change soon, once we import > delegated administration functionality. > > Although... The error above (failed to initialize ZFS library) most > likely means that zfs.ko module wasn't loaded. zfs(8) tries to do that > automatically, but of course it will only succeed if we are root. In > this case zfs.ko has to be manually loaded by root and then members of > operator group can use zfs(8) command. > > -- > Pawel Jakub Dawidek http://www.wheel.pl > pjd@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org > FreeBSD committer Am I Evil? Yes, I Am! > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 12:28:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9E11065673 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:28:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from jedburgh.just4dns.com (jedburgh.just4dns.com [78.129.134.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8628FC26 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:28:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from [86.153.243.228] (helo=movens.plus.com) by jedburgh.just4dns.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K1hEh-0003td-8Q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 13:28:03 +0100 Received: from [10.10.1.4] (redshift [10.10.1.4]) by postbag.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2371CC6B for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 13:28:11 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <483EA159.1050806@magichamster.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:28:09 +0100 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080524) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483DA3FA.9030404@magichamster.com> <20080528192227.GB78305@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <483DB493.3060901@magichamster.com> <20080528201133.GA79784@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <483E8DCD.9030204@magichamster.com> In-Reply-To: <483E8DCD.9030204@magichamster.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 1K1hEh-0003td-8Q X-Fuzioned-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-From: parish@magichamster.com X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jedburgh.just4dns.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - magichamster.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: External USB disk won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:28:15 -0000 Mark Ovens wrote: > Hi Roland, > > I had to rebuild the kernel without umass in it first, but here's the > result. > Follow up: I discovered that atausb wants to attach the disk as a floppy and I don't have a FD so the module isn;t compiled into my kernel. kldload'd atapifd.ko and it now sees the disk as afd0 - but it crashes the kernel (in 6.3) just like umass did in 7.0, Fatal Trap 12. Built atausb in 7.0 and same thing. Guess I'll just have to accept that I've bought a pup - I've noticed that the USB2.0 Hi-Speed logo on the box is not the official one so I guess it just doesn't comply with the USB standards. If anyone can tell me how to debug this to try to get to the cause so a fix can be found then I'm happy to spend the time doing so. Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 12:39:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92491065671 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:39:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pjd@garage.freebsd.pl) Received: from mail.garage.freebsd.pl (chello087206046210.chello.pl [87.206.46.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5170E8FC1B for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:39:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pjd@garage.freebsd.pl) Received: by mail.garage.freebsd.pl (Postfix, from userid 65534) id DC6E145C99; Thu, 29 May 2008 14:08:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (pjd.wheel.pl [10.0.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.garage.freebsd.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10F645685; Thu, 29 May 2008 14:08:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 14:08:43 +0200 From: Pawel Jakub Dawidek To: Mark Kane Message-ID: <20080529120843.GF3159@garage.freebsd.pl> References: <1207919596.3113.1.camel@norman-laptop> <20080411134128.7fc373b0@mkproductions.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ChQOR20MqfxkMJg9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080411134128.7fc373b0@mkproductions.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Key-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~pjd/pjd.asc X-OS: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT i386 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail.garage.freebsd.pl X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.9 required=3.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.4 Cc: freebsd-questions , Norman Maurer Subject: Re: zfs list and non-root user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:39:52 -0000 --ChQOR20MqfxkMJg9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 01:41:28PM -0500, Mark Kane wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008, at 15:13:16 +0200, Norman Maurer wrote: > > Hi all, > >=20 > > is it normal that I can't do a 'zfs list' ( for example ) as non-root > > user ?=20 > >=20 > > $ zfs list > > internal error: failed to initialize ZFS library > >=20 > > I think there is really a use case for use some zfs commands as > > non-root user.. > >=20 > > Thx > > Norman >=20 > Hi. >=20 > One way to do this as a non-root user is to add the account to the > "operator" group. This is what I do on my personal desktop machine > and it has worked fine, but I understand that may not be best in all > cases. >=20 > You might also try changing the permissions on /dev/zfs. I don't do > this method and I'm not sure if it's a proper way, but from trying it > very briefly it seems to work correctly with the user not in the > "operator" group. In Solaris anyone can open /dev/zfs and the kernel side of ZFS decides if the user has permission to perform some action or not. In FreeBSD we try to be more careful for now, but it will change soon, once we import delegated administration functionality. Although... The error above (failed to initialize ZFS library) most likely means that zfs.ko module wasn't loaded. zfs(8) tries to do that automatically, but of course it will only succeed if we are root. In this case zfs.ko has to be manually loaded by root and then members of operator group can use zfs(8) command. --=20 Pawel Jakub Dawidek http://www.wheel.pl pjd@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer Am I Evil? Yes, I Am! --ChQOR20MqfxkMJg9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFIPpzKForvXbEpPzQRApEiAKCrWHo3fQWHbfZpDAbPfdNwqkdKagCgrVRS 6MBLqrS6l+eiSd0QR24Ybhs= =w185 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ChQOR20MqfxkMJg9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 12:47:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F046A1065678 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:47:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gunther.mayer@googlemail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0528FC17 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:46:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gunther.mayer@googlemail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id q2so96442uge.37 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 05:46:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=XCp5qL3yPV+K6Q3zzyFdSg5gfuMdSa0JT5Iz2tLMPDM=; b=tKcwgk3085oZ4uKkrRPqkfOxRm9r6H1XI8M9LFr0gZ6Pdc4Y0TrKA/9V0S0cf9EqlCqDfi/88qpyK3e5DkbzZFBzEPkCnlgbplvpT0nmS04fv/r3167VabbaCZjR8efy2LrxIXh9y2jc7yHo4M+42rnM8VScta4HrWtpZbffRK8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=I9rQfukCj4oF+zhiT4cgkCwbwHdB9Zkksp6cx2nb2OcNlWB+ypeBMwQLY+JsRSWLgwsudmbfsMfx0mblXI1HYtwAvNkxB6hJFeYLTZJFBsSXCt6rpqcP4x3EPUomCbeqYQH3FmLk7ElyDjnYYwb7WgJI5Wliw/ImFBa9Y4G49mI= Received: by 10.67.27.3 with SMTP id e3mr847612ugj.82.1212065216690; Thu, 29 May 2008 05:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?172.25.0.133? ( [196.7.14.186]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k28sm1339900ugd.41.2008.05.29.05.46.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 May 2008 05:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <483EA5AF.5040901@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 14:46:39 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080502) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Gunther Mayer Subject: Best way of upgrading postgresql in production? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:47:01 -0000 Hi guys, I've been grappling with this and read all sorts of email threads and blog posts but I still have no good solution to the following problem: I want to upgrade a postgresql installation on FreeBSD 6.3 from 8.2 to 8.3 as we'd like to take advantage of its new features and performance enhancements. Yet none of the ports system offers no clean _and_ quick way of performing such an upgrade as the Makefiles of the respective ports choke as soon as they detect an existing older -server or -client. Yet all I want to do is in a script which fires automatically at 5am via cron (of course I'll get up to check just in case but I've done this many times before): 1. Do all backup tasks (build packages for all installed postgresql 8.2 stuff for possible rollback, full database dump, configs etc.) and take down all processes that write to the db 2. Shut down the database 3. Uninstall all postgresql 8.2 ports (client, server and client libs we depend on) 4. Install all postgresql 8.3 ports 5. Fire up the new db, restore the complete database dump 6. Restore the configs (pg_hba.conf, postgresql.conf etc.) and restart the database 7. Start up all "db write" services again Ideally that process shouldn't take longer than 5 minutes but step number 4 is currently a big stumbling block as * Building from ports will take a while * I can't find any binary packages for 8.3 (would need i386 for testing and amd64 for live) anywhere as far as I can see (ftp.freebsd.org has nothing, nor do the mirrors) * building binary packages myself is impossible on the same machines as pkg_create can only do that with installed packages, "make package" et. all choke when they realise you already have 82-{client,server} installed and I don't see any other way of creating a package without installing one How can I get out of this catch-22 /without /resorting to complicated jail setups or even worse, manual compilations with different prefixes and other nasties? There must be a way to get a package somehow... Gunther From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 12:58:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFBD1065671 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:58:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530C48FC13 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:58:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-0000136400000330-56-483ea8882a78 Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 29 May 2008 08:58:48 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:55:10 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <483EA159.1050806@magichamster.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: External USB disk won't mount Thread-Index: AcjBh2uei4r0oSTQRlOlsrM4/7vJKgAAZGog References: <483DA3FA.9030404@magichamster.com> <20080528192227.GB78305@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <483DB493.3060901@magichamster.com> <20080528201133.GA79784@slackbox.xs4all.nl><483E8DCD.9030204@magichamster.com> <483EA159.1050806@magichamster.com> From: "Bob McConnell" To: "Mark Ovens" , X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: Subject: RE: External USB disk won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:58:14 -0000 From: Mark Ovens > If anyone can tell me how to debug this to try to get to the cause so a=20 > fix can be found then I'm happy to spend the time doing so. Unless you are already familiar with the drivers and the bus itself, or want to learn more about it than anyone should ever need to know, it is not likely to be a productive use of your time. Another alternative would be to contact whomever is maintaining the driver and see if they would be willing to take the broken device off your hands and modify the driver to deal with it. I haven't tried working with USB, but from what I know of other interfaces, the first two things you are going to need are a bus sniffer tool and a copy of the USB spec. Unless you can find where someone else has diagnosed this device and published what they found, you are looking at trying to identify where this implementation deviates from the official documents and modify a driver to work with that deviation. It might be they use non-standard commands, or the timing of some sequences may not be correct. I would return it as defective and replace it with a different product. The non-standard seal of approval would also suggest a complaint to the group that owns the genuine seal, and possibly one to your local consumer rights advocate. Good luck, Bob McConnell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 13:03:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E99D106566B for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 13:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (unknown [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB3988FC23 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 13:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 37869 invoked by uid 89); 29 May 2008 09:03:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by v6.ibctech.ca with ESMTPA; 29 May 2008 09:03:54 -0000 Message-ID: <483EA932.4030008@ibctech.ca> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 09:01:38 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marc G. Fournier" References: <9A8B941DE58060D25F514F0D@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <9A8B941DE58060D25F514F0D@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:03:35 -0000 Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Does anyone know of anyone make an enterprise level router based off of FreeBSD? In all seriousness, if you want to roll your own based on FreeBSD, I have a couple of these units that I've been testing internally with that run FreeBSD off of a thumb drive. They are being used to test the Quality of Quagga's implementation of BGP, and seem to run very well. I haven't gone as far to really test them for pps or throughput yet, but they hold up well, no moving parts, not much more $ than a decent whitebox, and much smaller. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 13:05:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2A01065679 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 13:05:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (unknown [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7800F8FC13 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 13:05:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 38026 invoked by uid 89); 29 May 2008 09:05:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by v6.ibctech.ca with ESMTPA; 29 May 2008 09:05:44 -0000 Message-ID: <483EA9A0.9090207@ibctech.ca> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 09:03:28 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marc G. Fournier" References: <9A8B941DE58060D25F514F0D@ganymede.hub.org> <483EA932.4030008@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <483EA932.4030008@ibctech.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:05:26 -0000 Steve Bertrand wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> >> Does anyone know of anyone make an enterprise level router based off >> of FreeBSD? > > In all seriousness, if you want to roll your own based on FreeBSD, I > have a couple of these units that I've been testing internally with that > run FreeBSD off of a thumb drive. Darn it, I forgot to send the link: http://www.mikrotikrouter.com Using the thumb drive allows me to swap out router configs quickly, without having to open the box up. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 13:13:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0137D106567E for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 13:13:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lreid@cs.okstate.edu) Received: from a.cs.okstate.edu (a.cs.okstate.edu [139.78.113.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B3F8FC13 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 13:13:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lreid@cs.okstate.edu) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a.cs.okstate.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E44154E31; Thu, 29 May 2008 08:13:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <483EABEB.7060809@cs.okstate.edu> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:13:15 -0500 From: Reid Linnemann User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070926) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cp References: <7A6C26B678F8EB48ADBA3A1C75FD250807106C@moe.pleasants.net> In-Reply-To: <7A6C26B678F8EB48ADBA3A1C75FD250807106C@moe.pleasants.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help with options BRIDGE in freebsd 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:13:19 -0000 Written by cp on 05/28/08 17:28>> > I'd really appreciate if someone can shed some light on this for me. I'm > attempting to build a layer2 sniffer using dummynet and ipfw but I'm > having some problems building the new kernel with "options BRIDGE". It > errors out with the message below. Any suggestions? > > -cp > > lois# /usr/sbin/config LOIS > LOIS: unknown option "BRIDGE" > freebsd version = 7.0 > > lois# more LOIS | grep IP > options IPSEC > options IPSEC_FILTERTUNNEL > options IPSEC_DEBUG > options IPFIREWALL > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 > options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT > options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD > options IPDIVERT > options IPFILTER > options IPFILTER_LOG > lois# more LOIS | grep BR > options NETGRAPH_BRIDGE > options BRIDGE > > lois# more LOIS | grep DUM > options DUMMYNET > lois# > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" That's because the BRIDGE kernel option is deprecated in FreeBSD 7. Look at if_bridge(4). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 13:15:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749F4106567C for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 13:15:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BFBF8FC16 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 13:15:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2C267EBC08; Thu, 29 May 2008 09:15:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 09:15:24 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Gunther Mayer Message-Id: <20080529091524.d485ae21.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <483EA5AF.5040901@gmail.com> References: <483EA5AF.5040901@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Best way of upgrading postgresql in production? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:15:30 -0000 In response to Gunther Mayer : > > I've been grappling with this and read all sorts of email threads and > blog posts but I still have no good solution to the following problem: I > want to upgrade a postgresql installation on FreeBSD 6.3 from 8.2 to 8.3 > as we'd like to take advantage of its new features and performance > enhancements. Yet none of the ports system offers no clean _and_ quick > way of performing such an upgrade as the Makefiles of the respective > ports choke as soon as they detect an existing older -server or -client. > > Yet all I want to do is in a script which fires automatically at 5am via > cron (of course I'll get up to check just in case but I've done this > many times before): > > 1. Do all backup tasks (build packages for all installed postgresql > 8.2 stuff for possible rollback, full database dump, configs etc.) > and take down all processes that write to the db > 2. Shut down the database > 3. Uninstall all postgresql 8.2 ports (client, server and client libs > we depend on) > 4. Install all postgresql 8.3 ports > 5. Fire up the new db, restore the complete database dump > 6. Restore the configs (pg_hba.conf, postgresql.conf etc.) and > restart the database > 7. Start up all "db write" services again > > Ideally that process shouldn't take longer than 5 minutes but step > number 4 is currently a big stumbling block as > > * Building from ports will take a while > * I can't find any binary packages for 8.3 (would need i386 for > testing and amd64 for live) anywhere as far as I can see > (ftp.freebsd.org has nothing, nor do the mirrors) > * building binary packages myself is impossible on the same machines > as pkg_create can only do that with installed packages, "make > package" et. all choke when they realise you already have > 82-{client,server} installed and I don't see any other way of > creating a package without installing one > > How can I get out of this catch-22 /without /resorting to complicated > jail setups or even worse, manual compilations with different prefixes > and other nasties? There must be a way to get a package somehow... Jail setups are not complicated. You could also make the packages on another system. How about doing a make package on the server that you've tested your application against 8.3 on? You _have_ done that, right? What makes you think that jail setups are so complicated. I set up new jails almost every week. I get the impression that you have some reason for avoiding the obvious solution, and I suspect it revolves around some incorrect impression that jails are "complicated". -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 13:42:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2801065671 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 13:42:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03948FC16 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 13:42:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576201109C3; Thu, 29 May 2008 09:42:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 29 May 2008 09:42:10 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 7mCV34OVg8Iy5IEbrJSy32Dqmu4eGeFjgN2I5FXat7GX 1212068529 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A093125121; Thu, 29 May 2008 09:42:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <48A471B7-9899-4BF3-88B7-9A64B18103EF@goldmark.org> From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20080529083529.S18869@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:42:07 -0500 References: <18493.25160.836101.941905@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20080528140856.GA30599@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <2b677bda0805280731x45fc2dd4ra62a2657e11641c1@mail.gmail.com> <483D831A.7080000@gmail.com> <80A74452-ABF0-43EC-92A0-1166C1281098@goldmark.org> <20080528220808.G11389@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080529083529.S18869@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: FreeBSD List Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:42:11 -0000 On May 29, 2008, at 1:36 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > that's the adventage. but edimax 6104K router with 5 ethernets > running netbsd is both cheaper smaller and faster with it's 175Mhz 2 > instr/cycle MIPS CPU. 16MB RAM+2MB flash isn't much but enough to fit. I will keep that in mind the next time I need to build or recommend or purchase such a device. I wasn't aware that you could get NetBSD with enough usable tools on 2MB, but I see that now. Thank you, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 14:01:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC291065674 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 14:01:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C9A8FC20 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 14:01:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K1igg-0003ZV-BB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 14:01:02 +0000 Received: from 153.red-79-148-231.staticip.rima-tde.net ([79.148.231.153]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 14:01:02 +0000 Received: from matiassurdi by 153.red-79-148-231.staticip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 14:01:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Matias Surdi Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 16:00:56 +0200 Lines: 10 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 153.red-79-148-231.staticip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) Sender: news Subject: Monitoring raid status X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 14:01:05 -0000 Hi list, I have a new FreeBSD 7.0 installation with a HighPoint RocketRAID 2310 with 4 Disks. is there a way to check the raidstatus for the raid and/or is there a way to let smartmontools check the disks? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 14:14:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F5B1065710 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 14:14:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13B08FC12 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 14:14:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:53672 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K1itj-0005w9-7k for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 16:14:31 +0200 Received: (qmail 50241 invoked from network); 29 May 2008 16:14:30 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 29 May 2008 16:14:30 +0200 Received: (qmail 56025 invoked by uid 1001); 29 May 2008 16:14:30 +0200 Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 16:14:30 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Matias Surdi Message-ID: <20080529141430.GA55957@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1K1itj-0005w9-7k. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1K1itj-0005w9-7k 9a5e6f885463d5d25dee2127156ed013 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring raid status X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 14:14:35 -0000 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 04:00:56PM +0200, Matias Surdi wrote: > Hi list, > > I have a new FreeBSD 7.0 installation with a HighPoint RocketRAID 2310 > with 4 Disks. > > is there a way to check the raidstatus for the raid and/or is there a > way to let smartmontools check the disks? > I believe HighPoint themselves provide some RAID management utilities for FreeBSD. Take a look at http://www.highpoint-tech.com/ If that is not suitable I suspect you are out of luck since HighPoint as not AFAIK released much in the way of documentation or source code for those cards. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 15:46:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AD21065674 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 15:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B058FC0A for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 15:46:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 3052 invoked by uid 0); 29 May 2008 15:46:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (216.186.148.249) by smtp2.knology.net with SMTP; 29 May 2008 15:46:30 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 6DD8E28429; Thu, 29 May 2008 10:46:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 10:46:29 -0500 From: David Kelly To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20080529154629.GA38618@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 15:46:33 -0000 On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:57:35PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page > was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black > on the deep-blue bg on my RHS. I stopped and checked with > firefox; things looked fine. I've done all markup by hand since > '94, very carefully, with only browsers in the ports tree-- > mozilla, firefox, a couple others. Others have suggested online validators. /usr/ports/www/tidy is another that can check your code, even attempt repairs. Can also be used to standardize the coding format much like GNU indent for C code. Comes built-in to BBEdit on Mac where I do most of my HTML authoring. Eyeballing your code the first thing that stood out was: BACKGROUND="/usr/local/www/data/Graphics/paper0.jpg" Don't think that will work for anyone other than yourself, and only when you are on the server itself. Unless one has a file with that exact same name and path. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 16:31:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3093106567D for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 16:31:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gunther.mayer@googlemail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208628FC0C for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 16:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gunther.mayer@googlemail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id q2so149394uge.37 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 09:31:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=mD1eig8qCWSUTazot1tQ5honsd6PaSp9yVcBwAWoIY0=; b=u9LN5ePimdctiO9ibTSbTQ3OGNWkC63J8/kuXBWriwEQ/cH+I1Z08MLheIOYKyQEcw5hyYh0ExifJqjKv5M+UhIh75A7BwEJtGsLbF9ibo0z+fKRK3Xb6GvFdY3Opu9ZtkvQqne5R3Iqf2fBTg75Y+ywjcfyx/M3hMaR0XpDDa8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; b=u0LDM93ibHt7GhGKzxFhnmHTDPAcvH3wujOhU6xpdaV7gWbGvffqbD01ejhdDPxX5ZOueUAZCI2b7/X88yAWq6bjQH9dyuA7mIlZDRZ99ZllQ5bqASe6K9qCTlBrAPDEhpVgW/VbwpW63AAuCKpm6huMEjYRZNwlayKfIm/lSQY= Received: by 10.66.251.3 with SMTP id y3mr1060614ugh.88.1212078672062; Thu, 29 May 2008 09:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?172.25.0.133? ( [196.7.14.186]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 18sm1847568ugk.44.2008.05.29.09.31.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 May 2008 09:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <483EDA4B.1020408@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 18:31:07 +0200 From: Gunther Mayer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080502) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Moran References: <483EA5AF.5040901@gmail.com> <20080529091524.d485ae21.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20080529091524.d485ae21.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Best way of upgrading postgresql in production? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 16:31:15 -0000 Bill Moran wrote: > In response to Gunther Mayer : > >> I've been grappling with this and read all sorts of email threads and >> blog posts but I still have no good solution to the following problem: I >> want to upgrade a postgresql installation on FreeBSD 6.3 from 8.2 to 8.3 >> as we'd like to take advantage of its new features and performance >> enhancements. Yet none of the ports system offers no clean _and_ quick >> way of performing such an upgrade as the Makefiles of the respective >> ports choke as soon as they detect an existing older -server or -client. >> >> Yet all I want to do is in a script which fires automatically at 5am via >> cron (of course I'll get up to check just in case but I've done this >> many times before): >> >> 1. Do all backup tasks (build packages for all installed postgresql >> 8.2 stuff for possible rollback, full database dump, configs etc.) >> and take down all processes that write to the db >> 2. Shut down the database >> 3. Uninstall all postgresql 8.2 ports (client, server and client libs >> we depend on) >> 4. Install all postgresql 8.3 ports >> 5. Fire up the new db, restore the complete database dump >> 6. Restore the configs (pg_hba.conf, postgresql.conf etc.) and >> restart the database >> 7. Start up all "db write" services again >> >> Ideally that process shouldn't take longer than 5 minutes but step >> number 4 is currently a big stumbling block as >> >> * Building from ports will take a while >> * I can't find any binary packages for 8.3 (would need i386 for >> testing and amd64 for live) anywhere as far as I can see >> (ftp.freebsd.org has nothing, nor do the mirrors) >> * building binary packages myself is impossible on the same machines >> as pkg_create can only do that with installed packages, "make >> package" et. all choke when they realise you already have >> 82-{client,server} installed and I don't see any other way of >> creating a package without installing one >> >> How can I get out of this catch-22 /without /resorting to complicated >> jail setups or even worse, manual compilations with different prefixes >> and other nasties? There must be a way to get a package somehow... >> > > Jail setups are not complicated. You could also make the packages on > another system. How about doing a make package on the server that you've > tested your application against 8.3 on? You _have_ done that, right? > That's not an option since my testing box runs i386 while the live one runs amd64, I guess I should really invest in a testing box with the same arch... > What makes you think that jail setups are so complicated. I set up new > jails almost every week. I get the impression that you have some reason > for avoiding the obvious solution, and I suspect it revolves around some > incorrect impression that jails are "complicated". Ok, you're probably right, I just haven't worked with jails before and have just read the wrong articles. I will investigate how I could install the newer version in a jail and keep both running at the same time during the upgrade, I'll probably run into more problems along the way but will post again if I'm stuck. Thanks, Gunther From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 17:11:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5548F106567A for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 17:11:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaron@aaronholmes.net) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4638FC1F for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 17:11:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaron@aaronholmes.net) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 31so328028yxl.13 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 10:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.79.32 with SMTP id c32mr7691395ybb.133.1212081062007; Thu, 29 May 2008 10:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.100? ( [24.113.87.90]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n45sm1412959pyh.29.2008.05.29.10.11.00 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 29 May 2008 10:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <483EE39B.6060403@aaronholmes.net> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 10:10:51 -0700 From: Aaron Holmes User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pawel Jakub Dawidek References: <48373178.4080909@aaronholmes.net> <20080529120022.GE3159@garage.freebsd.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080529120022.GE3159@garage.freebsd.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-rc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Delaying mount of UFS filesystem in ZFS pool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:11:03 -0000 I didn't think of mountlate, that may work. What I ended up doing was adding the "noauto" option and running a cronjob that checks and mounts the filesystem. Unfortunately, I learned that quotas only apply to mount points and not directories, so I may not be of any use for testing new things in the near future. Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 02:04:56PM -0700, Aaron Holmes wrote: > >> I have a UFS filesystem inside a zpool: >> tank on /tank (zfs, local) >> /dev/zvol/tank/ufs on /mnt/ufs (ufs, local, acls) >> >> If I add that entry (/dev/zvol/tank/ufs) to /etc/fstab, it will try to >> mount as a critical filesystem on boot, however, because ZFS hasn't yet >> loaded, this fails and causes all sorts of fun for me. >> Currently I have that filesystem mounting via a cronjob that checks >> every minute if it's mounted.. definitely not ideal. >> >> I need this filesystem in /etc/fstab so I can setup quotas on it (if >> there is some other way to get quotas working, great, point me to a link >> or two). >> >> So what I'm thinking for a solution is to delay the mount of this >> filesystem until ZFS has loaded, but I'm not sure of a way to do this >> with the filesystem in /etc/fstab, and without extensive hacking to one >> or more rc scripts. >> >> Ideas? >> > > Adding 'late' flag in "Options" section to the fstab entry may help, > although I don't think it will help with quotas: > > # rcorder /etc/rc.d/* > [...] > /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal > [...] > /etc/rc.d/zfs > [...] > /etc/rc.d/mountcritremote > [...] > /etc/rc.d/quota > [...] > /etc/rc.d/mountlate > [...] > > We might consider running rc.d/quota after rc.d/mountlate, not sure if > it won't break something else. I added freebsd-rc@ to CC. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 17:35:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35730106566B for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 17:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cmail.optima.ua (cmail.optima.ua [195.248.191.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A948FC1F for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 17:35:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) X-Spam-Flag: SKIP X-Spam-Yversion: Spamooborona-2.1.0 Received: from [212.86.226.226] (account mav@alkar.net HELO [192.168.3.2]) by cmail.optima.ua (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.14) with ESMTPA id 137042015; Thu, 29 May 2008 19:35:44 +0300 Message-ID: <483EDB5B.1020200@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 19:35:39 +0300 From: Alexander Motin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Colin Brace References: <1212067389.00076524.1212055803@10.7.7.3> In-Reply-To: <1212067389.00076524.1212055803@10.7.7.3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA support & custom v7.0 kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:35:46 -0000 Colin Brace пОшет: > I'd like to add a SATA drive to a P4 box that I use as a gateway/server. > The MB doesn't have a SATA interface, so I stuck an Initio-based SATA card > in the box. The kernel recognizes the card, but the attached drive wasn't > displayed when I started up sysinstall to format it. I'm wondering whether > I am missing SATA support. I commented out a bunch of stuff such as the > SCSI controllers when I compiled the kernel with ALTQ support, but these > options *are* included: > > # SCSI peripherals > device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) > device ch # SCSI media changers > device da # Direct Access (disks) > device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) > device cd # CD > device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) > device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) > > Should this be enough? I don't see any specific references to SATA in the > handbook > Usually SATA is more ATA then SCSI. Try to add to your config: device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device ataraid # ATA RAID drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives device atapist # ATAPI tape drives -- Alexander Motin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 17:55:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAAA6106566B for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 17:55:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com) Received: from bostonserver.studsvik-analytic.com (firewall.studsvik-analytic.com [155.212.59.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48BE08FC1B for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 17:55:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com) Received: from [192.168.169.204] (pc204.studsvik-analytic.com [192.168.169.204]) by bostonserver.studsvik-analytic.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id m4THP9Dj001828 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 13:25:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:35:27 -0400 From: Patrick Baldwin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:55:45 -0000 Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm thinking FreeBSD might be the best choice of OS for the replacement. However, it's been some time since I looked into options for mail servers. I'm interested in both suggestions for hardware and mail servers that would make for the best FreeBSD based mail server. I've only got about two dozen users, though they are all very heavy users of email. I'm using IMAP, and I'd like to continue to do so. Finally, we have quite a few aliases I'd want to port over to a new server. Thanks, -- Patrick Baldwin Systems Administrator Studsvik Scandpower, Inc. 1087 Beacon St. Newton, MA 02459 1-617-965-7455 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 18:02:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A7E1065672 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 18:02:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from pd4mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103758FC34 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 18:02:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from pd2mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr1so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.110]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0K1N005QS63I1320@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:02:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml3so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.147]) by pd2mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0K1N00HC463H9DA0@pd2mr1so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:02:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from gom.home ([70.67.160.176]) by l-daemon (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0K1N00MRI63FW230@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:02:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from gom.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gom.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37851B842; Thu, 29 May 2008 11:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 11:01:58 -0700 From: prad In-reply-to: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <20080529110158.4649f6f4@gom.home> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> Cc: Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 18:02:28 -0000 On Thu, 29 May 2008 13:35:27 -0400 Patrick Baldwin wrote: > I'm interested in both suggestions for hardware and mail > servers that would make for the best FreeBSD based mail server. > i like postfix with dovecot. (we do imap for about half-a-dozen users.) both are simple, understandable and easy to configure for virtual hosts. (i found sendmail to be awkward and exim incomprehensible though i possibly should have tried harder :D ) -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 18:19:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222341065670 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 18:19:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from mho-01-bos.mailhop.org (mho-01-bos.mailhop.org [63.208.196.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5B88FC17 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 18:19:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from vdsl-151-118-132-54.dnvr.qwest.net ([151.118.132.54] helo=mail.mikestammer.com) by mho-01-bos.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K1mON-0006Yw-7S; Thu, 29 May 2008 17:58:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C254FB971; Thu, 29 May 2008 11:58:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 151.118.132.54 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX18k6OqFK5PduYjaQMF8nd1q0SRXt6Mo5tQ= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mikestammer.com Received: from mail.mikestammer.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gondolin.middleearth.mikestammer.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AuyD+UP2PHSS; Thu, 29 May 2008 11:58:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [128.241.109.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eric) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BE503B87C; Thu, 29 May 2008 11:58:20 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <483EEEA8.20202@mikestammer.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 11:58:00 -0600 From: Eric Zimmerman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> In-Reply-To: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 18:19:31 -0000 Patrick Baldwin wrote: > Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my > mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm > thinking FreeBSD might be the best choice of OS for the replacement. > > However, it's been some time since I looked into options for mail > servers. I'm interested in both suggestions for hardware and mail > servers that would make for the best FreeBSD based mail server. > > I've only got about two dozen users, though they are all very heavy > users of email. I'm using IMAP, and I'd like to continue to do so. > > Finally, we have quite a few aliases I'd want to port over to a > new server. > > Thanks, > I like postfix + dovecot. Easy to set up and both have a ton of features. any relatively modern hardware will do with that kind of volume. your aliases shouldnt be a problem either. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 18:37:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C241065677 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 18:37:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com (gv-out-0910.google.com [216.239.58.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E18A8FC17 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 18:37:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n8so1042593gve.39 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 11:37:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=j16z/E4XDYT+XyRhLHHlzhBEY6eY9xvyzy4xiZA1Ztc=; b=KldEN7n6QA/KOsfDdpH5AAuk9SDi9L4bxKpiq1HR54fYbuQNFgRaHo85Wn11WtQgJNxLoiqw13/eJK1hrveiA+jmtEyRYjEkVFsctJiI8K4PgqmNAFE+4EAWp5zCRxFN8aV6F/oMODD2pCnkJu/zFTzXpx6ZNuRpcfnzItzsFY8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ZedYMXLapYXcFsisOJDgdIHVT2SgGbJG8aLBTrRjfwKh+93+BQm1AH7l9vZqwbXwySBd/WR0KZ05EQyqP+LTpLgFs9Kdeuwi1RfMliVDU77xpRmYTMgg4qp66RwMvoZ0tJn0lkJQjZM30rr033qJNfFlK0tptFCm+d8EDUsOpTE= Received: by 10.150.51.4 with SMTP id y4mr83586yby.38.1212086234718; Thu, 29 May 2008 11:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.219.9 with HTTP; Thu, 29 May 2008 11:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <991123400805291137k21acccc3l3a1390d93b36bfe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:37:14 +0300 From: "Odhiambo Washington" To: Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com In-Reply-To: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 18:37:17 -0000 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Patrick Baldwin < Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com> wrote: > Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my > mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm > thinking FreeBSD might be the best choice of OS for the replacement. > > However, it's been some time since I looked into options for mail > servers. I'm interested in both suggestions for hardware and mail > servers that would make for the best FreeBSD based mail server. > > I've only got about two dozen users, though they are all very heavy > users of email. I'm using IMAP, and I'd like to continue to do so. > > Finally, we have quite a few aliases I'd want to port over to a > new server. > > I like Exim + Dovecot with their flexibilities in configurations, security and proven performance. Exim is so flexible and the configuration "language" quite extensible you'll love it:-) In terms of hardware, any decent workstation-grade hardware will do: For example, I've managed to support over 200 users on an HP DC7800 with 4GB of RAM. This same box runs Clamav and SpamAssassin both for filtering mmalware and spam. It's a DB server, Web server, firewall/router. Users do POP3 mostly but I surely believe with some good disks, IMAP should not be such a problem with Dovecot. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 18:58:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271B2106566C; Thu, 29 May 2008 18:58:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cb@lim.nl) Received: from lim.nl (78-27-9-173.dsl.alice.nl [78.27.9.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C616E8FC16; Thu, 29 May 2008 18:58:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cb@lim.nl) Received: by venus (Postfix, from userid 80) id CF0525C37; Thu, 29 May 2008 20:58:51 +0200 (CEST) To: Alexander Motin MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:58:51 +0200 From: Colin Brace In-Reply-To: <483EDB5B.1020200@FreeBSD.org> References: <1212067389.00076524.1212055803@10.7.7.3> <483EDB5B.1020200@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: X-Sender: cb@lim.nl User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA support & custom v7.0 kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 18:58:59 -0000 On Thu, 29 May 2008 19:35:39 +0300, Alexander Motin wrote: > Usually SATA is more ATA then SCSI. Try to add to your config: > device ata [...] My kernel config has the ATA stuff already; the system currently boots from an IDE drive. -- Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 19:17:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2158B106567C for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 19:17:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from njt@ayvali.org) Received: from starfish.geekisp.com (mail.geekisp.com [216.168.135.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761648FC15 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 19:17:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from njt@ayvali.org) Received: (qmail 11379 invoked by uid 1003); 29 May 2008 18:50:57 -0000 Received: from scallop.int.geekisp.com (HELO scallop.geekisp.com) (192.168.4.46) by mail.geekisp.com with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 29 May 2008 18:50:57 -0000 Received: from scallop.geekisp.com (njt@localhost.geekisp.com [127.0.0.1]) by scallop.geekisp.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m4TIovPD004539; Thu, 29 May 2008 14:50:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from njt@localhost) by scallop.geekisp.com (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m4TIoupd031005; Thu, 29 May 2008 14:50:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: scallop.geekisp.com: njt set sender to njt@ayvali.org using -f Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 14:50:56 -0400 From: "N.J. Thomas" To: Patrick Baldwin Message-ID: <20080529185055.GU26299@ayvali.org> References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 19:17:39 -0000 * Patrick Baldwin [2008-05-29 13:35:27-0400]: > I'm interested in both suggestions for hardware and mail servers that > would make for the best FreeBSD based mail server. A third vote for Postfix + Dovecot here. Thomas -- N.J. Thomas njt@ayvali.org Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 19:55:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C47C106566B for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 19:55:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3918FC1B for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 19:55:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so2468129tid.3 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:55:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=71T/079D61L1idkGYPB5Z3Jvcp96vtw0ioDAJY7nSBk=; b=E1BqmeFpGt6VoQl19r/uU5gBGR7vlnQsQ+2IGl8eIhenyvJlARsGtf8TMnRJvXKYR6BkThwUmCr8yAKnXzkRy8Btxkfao3YoTs3dVHOrokMKezmTfiK5nMzxHr6spWkkockLPGWz8/KBLORiFAaqqiokA7VRN5VV5CBd3qr9Rxc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=g64FOGwvoY9fTBUTcfBykCCDWP41oLF8aYobvL8aAOvj2SUVUwl6oJ4xr363DNmGKcOv4mP6PFceBeGpRFJR6gUdNVPBLE8Plid5NNP5IiWM9wfjwGIoJQk3lBOEXUMnYS9fJWY4A9b0cegfk3SnbV2AINJjlfbuo2OTZrc8cUE= Received: by 10.151.144.15 with SMTP id w15mr155120ybn.161.1212090922405; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.219.9 with HTTP; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <991123400805291255r759211b8q76696fd4595cdf1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 22:55:22 +0300 From: "Odhiambo Washington" To: "N.J. Thomas" In-Reply-To: <20080529185055.GU26299@ayvali.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> <20080529185055.GU26299@ayvali.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Patrick Baldwin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 19:55:26 -0000 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 9:50 PM, N.J. Thomas wrote: > * Patrick Baldwin [2008-05-29 > 13:35:27-0400]: > > I'm interested in both suggestions for hardware and mail servers that > > would make for the best FreeBSD based mail server. > > A third vote for Postfix + Dovecot here. > > Votes may not count much, but the learning curve:-) Now, if only if he can go start playing with Postfix, Exim and Dovecot - and make a choice! -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 19:56:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9911510656B2 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 19:56:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423C98FC1C for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 19:56:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m4TJqMP1038729; Thu, 29 May 2008 15:52:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m4TJqLKk038728; Thu, 29 May 2008 15:52:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 15:52:21 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Patrick Baldwin Message-ID: <20080529195221.GA38690@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 19:56:22 -0000 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:35:27PM -0400, Patrick Baldwin wrote: > Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my > mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm > thinking FreeBSD might be the best choice of OS for the replacement. Given that, a FreeBSD system could be almost a drop-in replacement. Sendmail should be the same or very nearly so (depends on the version you are using now and the nre version). Aliases should work just the same. Your only differences might be in where some things live. But, check out the hier(7) man page in FreeBSD. It documents the FreeBSD directory conventions. There are other MTAs and other utilities available to experiment with. But, if you are comfortable with sendmail, there is no reason to change. It is mature and very functional; does what you need. A modern machine with FreeBSD 7.x should handle large numbers of Email users - even heavy users. ////jerry > > However, it's been some time since I looked into options for mail > servers. I'm interested in both suggestions for hardware and mail > servers that would make for the best FreeBSD based mail server. > > I've only got about two dozen users, though they are all very heavy > users of email. I'm using IMAP, and I'd like to continue to do so. > > Finally, we have quite a few aliases I'd want to port over to a > new server. > > Thanks, > > -- > Patrick Baldwin > Systems Administrator > Studsvik Scandpower, Inc. > 1087 Beacon St. > Newton, MA 02459 > 1-617-965-7455 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 19:59:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C5E8106566C for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 19:59:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB518FC0A for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 19:59:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so2470547tid.3 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:59:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=G3LVHJS+ohjGAVpHJeq9uq9WPeyvf2orXkzpXqFJqc8=; b=u7CGNkiuNpF4RnCBMPe34/+R9WVtLRZQE4G8MEWm/6OZBUa45EiVCtZWZEnsU3QQ7UkkIsIVlMr6+FT1U01wYt3iet4aGRPEDNrLEk+lzsdTvyzwNQqYqX/e1eIX5wYl8ohMChntZb1e7I6lS2txVYS4JQxparYXIsXIRJn+af4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=aESE6SX0Ujpsdkmy5UyT1tW1j2IpNHHvDLzcRFkv6me4yBhZzXPR1JiPk2RP0u260bPX/wtbZMv4JkVYveNqWtNjLi64bkAZ3YJDIc3ynDlRIfkmEPPnXr+iL1YpdUvtl7gPB8N3L8aOS5TwnHvSvdpAnnQUvvj9suZ852XR7B4= Received: by 10.150.229.16 with SMTP id b16mr1013065ybh.123.1212091151787; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.219.9 with HTTP; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <991123400805291259r32ba49b2xd18babc232e6bb6b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 22:59:11 +0300 From: "Odhiambo Washington" To: "Jerry McAllister" In-Reply-To: <20080529195221.GA38690@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> <20080529195221.GA38690@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Patrick Baldwin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 19:59:15 -0000 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:52 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:35:27PM -0400, Patrick Baldwin wrote: > > > Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my > > mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm > > thinking FreeBSD might be the best choice of OS for the replacement. > > Given that, a FreeBSD system could be almost a drop-in replacement. > Sendmail should be the same or very nearly so (depends on the version > you are using now and the nre version). Aliases should work just > the same. Your only differences might be in where some things > live. But, check out the hier(7) man page in FreeBSD. It > documents the FreeBSD directory conventions. > > There are other MTAs and other utilities available to experiment with. > But, if you are comfortable with sendmail, there is no reason to change. > It is mature and very functional; does what you need. A modern > machine with FreeBSD 7.x should handle large numbers of Email users - > even heavy users. > > ////jerry > The only perfect answer! We should all clap for you for giving this answer. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 20:05:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA5F106564A for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 20:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BC28FC1C for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 20:05:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4TK5YN4068567 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 13:05:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) From: Gary Kline To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:05:22 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> <4a89d1190805290039k1f2dedb1he342b4a83d7453a6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4a89d1190805290039k1f2dedb1he342b4a83d7453a6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200805291305.22567.kline@thought.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:05:36 -0000 On Thu May 29 2008 00:39:06 Christian Zachariasen wrote: > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > > Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page > > was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black > > on the deep-blue bg on my RHS. I stopped and checked with > > firefox; things looked fine. I've done all markup by hand since > > '94, very carefully, with only browsers in the ports tree-- > > mozilla, firefox, a couple others. > > > > About a week ago I viewed my homepage with KDE Konq and almost > > flipped out. One "free" commercial historical calender event > > feature was glued to the bottom of my blue bar (
) > > on the RHS of the page. And yep, the new text and other things > > were centered in the middle of the long blue rectangle. > > > > Since I have a few weeks now to work on things beside research, > > it's time to update my main web page. My friend was using IE; > > it may be that Konqueror uses a similar parser to position > > things on a .php or .html page. > > > > Other than beginning from Zero and trying to determine exactly > > what causes firefox and konq to diverge, do any of you have any > > other ideas? I've never learned an HTML editors because of the > > learning curve. But:: if/when I come up with a better design for > > my home page, I'm willing to try again:: any best (simple) HTML > > editors in ports? > > > > I'd be much obliged for any help here. > > > > > > gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix > > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > I say keep using the technique you're using now. That's what I'd do. > Instead of finding a HTML Editor > just find a simple text editor and write all your HTML in a clean manner. > > I don't know where Ted got his statistics from, but most people I know use > simple text editors for writing their HTML, CSS > and JavaScript. Personally I stick to vi or diakonos on BSD and Notepad2 on > Windows. > /* * strange:: the way that mutt queues [ and orders ] its replies and theads is * different from kmail. I only use a GUI when there is a URL embedded, but * it must be down-queue. .... */ I would *rather* use vi and HTML-by-hand. And produce very simple, readable, uncluttered pages. I don't use many graphics, e.g., I use the strength of HTML, php, blah ** 3. I'm ready to learn this "CMS" that Ted mentioned if I knew what it was! And if its in ports. AFAIK, the only pages that look bizarre are my initial "www" (and one other based on it). I'll google around to find out what CMS is... > Christian Zachariasen > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 20:26:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD280106568C for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 20:26:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C298FC2A for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 20:26:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m4TKMdUD038918; Thu, 29 May 2008 16:22:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m4TKMdJM038917; Thu, 29 May 2008 16:22:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 16:22:39 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20080529202239.GA38875@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> <4a89d1190805290039k1f2dedb1he342b4a83d7453a6@mail.gmail.com> <200805291305.22567.kline@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200805291305.22567.kline@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:26:44 -0000 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:05:22PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Thu May 29 2008 00:39:06 Christian Zachariasen wrote: > > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page > > > was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black > > > on the deep-blue bg on my RHS. I stopped and checked with > > > firefox; things looked fine. I've done all markup by hand since > > > '94, very carefully, with only browsers in the ports tree-- > > > mozilla, firefox, a couple others. > > > > > > About a week ago I viewed my homepage with KDE Konq and almost > > > flipped out. One "free" commercial historical calender event > > > feature was glued to the bottom of my blue bar (
) > > > on the RHS of the page. And yep, the new text and other things > > > were centered in the middle of the long blue rectangle. > > > > > > Since I have a few weeks now to work on things beside research, > > > it's time to update my main web page. My friend was using IE; > > > it may be that Konqueror uses a similar parser to position > > > things on a .php or .html page. > > > > > > Other than beginning from Zero and trying to determine exactly > > > what causes firefox and konq to diverge, do any of you have any > > > other ideas? I've never learned an HTML editors because of the > > > learning curve. But:: if/when I come up with a better design for > > > my home page, I'm willing to try again:: any best (simple) HTML > > > editors in ports? > > > > > > I'd be much obliged for any help here. > > > > > > gary > > > > > > -- > > > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix > > > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > I say keep using the technique you're using now. That's what I'd do. > > Instead of finding a HTML Editor > > just find a simple text editor and write all your HTML in a clean manner. > > > > I don't know where Ted got his statistics from, but most people I know use > > simple text editors for writing their HTML, CSS > > and JavaScript. Personally I stick to vi or diakonos on BSD and Notepad2 on > > Windows. > > > /* > * strange:: the way that mutt queues [ and orders ] its replies and theads is > * different from kmail. I only use a GUI when there is a URL embedded, but > * it must be down-queue. .... > */ > > I would *rather* use vi and HTML-by-hand. And produce very simple, readable, > uncluttered pages. I don't use many graphics, e.g., I use the strength of > HTML, php, blah ** 3. > > I'm ready to learn this "CMS" that Ted mentioned if I knew what it was! And > if its in ports. AFAIK, the only pages that look bizarre are my > initial "www" (and one other based on it). I'll google around to find out > what CMS is... We are initial buried. CMS can mean many things, but in this case it probably mean either Content Management System or possibly Change Management System. Both are common uses. If you are happy editing your HTML files and doing your own CSS, then you don't need it at all. That web verification site might be an interesting thing to try now and then, though. ////jerry > > > Christian Zachariasen > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 20:26:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C0A106568A for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 20:26:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from smtp1.tls.net (smtp1.tls.net [65.196.224.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277948FC4B for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 20:26:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 59789 invoked from network); 29 May 2008 20:26:51 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.3 ppid: 59738, pid: 59785, t: 1.5089s scanners: attach: 1.2.3 clamav: 0.91.1/m:45/d:6125 spam: 3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on smtp1.tls.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=20.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.2.1 Received: from 64-184-9-72.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.1.42?) (ldg%tls.net@64.184.9.72) by auth-smtp1.tls.net with ESMTPA; 29 May 2008 20:26:49 -0000 Message-ID: <483F1183.6060006@pixelhammer.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 16:26:43 -0400 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> <4a89d1190805290039k1f2dedb1he342b4a83d7453a6@mail.gmail.com> <200805291305.22567.kline@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <200805291305.22567.kline@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:26:53 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > On Thu May 29 2008 00:39:06 Christian Zachariasen wrote: >> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Gary Kline wrote: >>> Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page >>> was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black >>> on the deep-blue bg on my RHS. I stopped and checked with >>> firefox; things looked fine. I've done all markup by hand since >>> '94, very carefully, with only browsers in the ports tree-- >>> mozilla, firefox, a couple others. >>> >>> About a week ago I viewed my homepage with KDE Konq and almost >>> flipped out. One "free" commercial historical calender event >>> feature was glued to the bottom of my blue bar (
) >>> on the RHS of the page. And yep, the new text and other things >>> were centered in the middle of the long blue rectangle. >>> >>> Since I have a few weeks now to work on things beside research, >>> it's time to update my main web page. My friend was using IE; >>> it may be that Konqueror uses a similar parser to position >>> things on a .php or .html page. >>> >>> Other than beginning from Zero and trying to determine exactly >>> what causes firefox and konq to diverge, do any of you have any >>> other ideas? I've never learned an HTML editors because of the >>> learning curve. But:: if/when I come up with a better design for >>> my home page, I'm willing to try again:: any best (simple) HTML >>> editors in ports? >>> >>> I'd be much obliged for any help here. >>> >> I say keep using the technique you're using now. That's what I'd do. >> Instead of finding a HTML Editor >> just find a simple text editor and write all your HTML in a clean manner. >> >> I don't know where Ted got his statistics from, but most people I know use >> simple text editors for writing their HTML, CSS >> and JavaScript. Personally I stick to vi or diakonos on BSD and Notepad2 on >> Windows. >> > /* > * strange:: the way that mutt queues [ and orders ] its replies and theads is > * different from kmail. I only use a GUI when there is a URL embedded, but > * it must be down-queue. .... > */ > > I would *rather* use vi and HTML-by-hand. And produce very simple, readable, > uncluttered pages. I don't use many graphics, e.g., I use the strength of > HTML, php, blah ** 3. > > I'm ready to learn this "CMS" that Ted mentioned if I knew what it was! And > if its in ports. AFAIK, the only pages that look bizarre are my > initial "www" (and one other based on it). I'll google around to find out > what CMS is... I still prefer html by hand. I use VIM though all our designers and developers use Dreamweaver, funny few if any can fix the HTML if the tool munges it. Many have no idea how HTML works. As far as CMS tools go some create nice pages but at a cost. We have several clients who insist on CMS tools. The joke around our Office is [Joomla|Rails|other] is the only tool known to man to require 1GB server memory to load all the required libs in displaying "Hello World". Some of the CMS tools are very very heavy. Straight static HTML can be blisteringly fast in comparison unless you have low traffic or a fairly hefty server. Static HTML also doesn't show up in my CERT emails every month with security issues. My 2 cents worth... DAve -- In 50 years, our descendants will look back on the early years of the internet, and much like we now look back on men with rockets on their back and feathers glued to their arms, marvel that we had the intelligence to wipe the drool from our chins. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 20:33:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3ED106566B for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 20:33:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0508FC1A for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 20:33:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4TKXgeZ068753 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 13:33:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) From: Gary Kline To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:33:38 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> <20080529154629.GA38618@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> In-Reply-To: <20080529154629.GA38618@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200805291333.38269.kline@thought.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:33:43 -0000 On Thu May 29 2008 08:46:29 David Kelly wrote: > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:57:35PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page > > was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black > > on the deep-blue bg on my RHS. I stopped and checked with > > firefox; things looked fine. I've done all markup by hand since > > '94, very carefully, with only browsers in the ports tree-- > > mozilla, firefox, a couple others. > > Others have suggested online validators. /usr/ports/www/tidy is another > that can check your code, even attempt repairs. Can also be used to > standardize the coding format much like GNU indent for C code. Comes > built-in to BBEdit on Mac where I do most of my HTML authoring. > > Eyeballing your code the first thing that stood out was: > > BACKGROUND="/usr/local/www/data/Graphics/paper0.jpg" > > Don't think that will work for anyone other than yourself, and only when > you are on the server itself. Unless one has a file with that exact same > name and path. Good one, thankee. Using the bg graphic works on my jottings pages because I gave a relative "./Graphics/foo.jpg" pointer. Just checking now with Opera, I still see the "www" page askew. Blue-bar with most strings embedded within it. firefox [ and mozilla ] get it the way I want, opera and konq, nope. tidy? Sorry, must snce i've been wworking on other things, i've lost touch. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 20:49:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B465F1065673 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 20:49:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from jedburgh.just4dns.com (jedburgh.just4dns.com [78.129.134.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B038FC20 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 20:49:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parish@magichamster.com) Received: from [86.153.243.228] (helo=movens.plus.com) by jedburgh.just4dns.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K1p3H-0001bx-Hq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 21:48:47 +0100 Received: from [10.10.1.4] (redshift [10.10.1.4]) by postbag.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A951CC59 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 21:49:01 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <483F16B9.9050100@magichamster.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:48:57 +0100 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080524) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483DA3FA.9030404@magichamster.com> <20080528192227.GB78305@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <483DB493.3060901@magichamster.com> <20080528201133.GA79784@slackbox.xs4all.nl><483E8DCD.9030204@magichamster.com> <483EA159.1050806@magichamster.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 1K1p3H-0001bx-Hq X-Fuzioned-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Fuzioned-MailScanner-From: parish@magichamster.com X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jedburgh.just4dns.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - magichamster.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: External USB disk won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:49:09 -0000 Bob McConnell wrote: > From: Mark Ovens > >> If anyone can tell me how to debug this to try to get to the cause so > a >> fix can be found then I'm happy to spend the time doing so. > > Unless you are already familiar with the drivers and the bus itself, or > want to learn more about it than anyone should ever need to know, it is > not likely to be a productive use of your time. Hehe, yes, I kind of guessed the answer would be something like that. Oh well, never mind. I bought it off FleaBay and it did say Windows/Mac but I figured something as basic as a ATA->USB bridge should be OS agnostic - to be fair it is, as it sees the disk and creates devices for it, it's just that the USB interface is not standards-compliant. I fired up the Mandriva Linux Live CD and tried it. Linux found the disk, created devices for it - then did a USB reset and the devices disappeared. Might have a word at work and see if they'll swap it with the one I borrowed that does work. Thanks for your help guys. Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 20:52:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63F9106567C for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 20:52:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA628FC1C for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 20:52:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4TKqRTw068889 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 13:52:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) From: Gary Kline To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:52:22 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> <200805291305.22567.kline@thought.org> <483F1183.6060006@pixelhammer.com> In-Reply-To: <483F1183.6060006@pixelhammer.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200805291352.22974.kline@thought.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:52:29 -0000 On Thu May 29 2008 13:26:43 DAve wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > On Thu May 29 2008 00:39:06 Christian Zachariasen wrote: > >> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > >>> Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page > >>> was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black > >>> on the deep-blue bg on my RHS. I stopped and checked with > >>> firefox; things looked fine. I've done all markup by hand since > >>> '94, very carefully, with only browsers in the ports tree-- > >>> mozilla, firefox, a couple others. > >>> > >>> About a week ago I viewed my homepage with KDE Konq and almost > >>> flipped out. One "free" commercial historical calender event > >>> feature was glued to the bottom of my blue bar (
) > >>> on the RHS of the page. And yep, the new text and other things > >>> were centered in the middle of the long blue rectangle. > >>> > >>> Since I have a few weeks now to work on things beside research, > >>> it's time to update my main web page. My friend was using IE; > >>> it may be that Konqueror uses a similar parser to position > >>> things on a .php or .html page. > >>> > >>> Other than beginning from Zero and trying to determine exactly > >>> what causes firefox and konq to diverge, do any of you have any > >>> other ideas? I've never learned an HTML editors because of the > >>> learning curve. But:: if/when I come up with a better design > >>> for my home page, I'm willing to try again:: any best (simple) HTML > >>> editors in ports? > >>> > >>> I'd be much obliged for any help here. > >> > >> I say keep using the technique you're using now. That's what I'd do. > >> Instead of finding a HTML Editor > >> just find a simple text editor and write all your HTML in a clean > >> manner. > >> > >> I don't know where Ted got his statistics from, but most people I know > >> use simple text editors for writing their HTML, CSS > >> and JavaScript. Personally I stick to vi or diakonos on BSD and Notepad2 > >> on Windows. > > > > /* > > * strange:: the way that mutt queues [ and orders ] its replies and > > theads is * different from kmail. I only use a GUI when there is a URL > > embedded, but * it must be down-queue. .... > > */ > > > > I would *rather* use vi and HTML-by-hand. And produce very simple, > > readable, uncluttered pages. I don't use many graphics, e.g., I use the > > strength of HTML, php, blah ** 3. > > > > I'm ready to learn this "CMS" that Ted mentioned if I knew what it was! > > And if its in ports. AFAIK, the only pages that look bizarre are my > > initial "www" (and one other based on it). I'll google around to find > > out what CMS is... > > I still prefer html by hand. I use VIM though all our designers and > developers use Dreamweaver, funny few if any can fix the HTML if the > tool munges it. Many have no idea how HTML works. > > As far as CMS tools go some create nice pages but at a cost. We have > several clients who insist on CMS tools. The joke around our Office is > [Joomla|Rails|other] is the only tool known to man to require 1GB server > memory to load all the required libs in displaying "Hello World". Some > of the CMS tools are very very heavy. Straight static HTML can be > blisteringly fast in comparison unless you have low traffic or a fairly > hefty server. Static HTML also doesn't show up in my CERT emails every > month with security issues. > > My 2 cents worth... well, for years my favored method is "kiss" == "keep it simple, sir." i'm still chiuckling over that tool that requires a GIG to load. gary ps: thanks to Google: CMS == "content mgnt system" > > DAve -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 21:06:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE26210656AA for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 21:06:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from raq5.nitrex.net (raq5.nitrex.net [213.165.227.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425B98FC18 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 21:06:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.10.141] (gate.zenatode.org.uk [213.165.225.167]) by raq5.nitrex.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m4TL6MIG019084 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 22:06:26 +0100 Message-ID: <483F1ACE.50208@onetel.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 22:06:22 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080528) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: pkg_create v make package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:06:28 -0000 Hi What's the difference between packages made by these two methods? Eg I have youtube_dl installed. From within the youtube_dl port directory # make package-recursive resulted in -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 8389 29 May 21:14 /usr/ports/packages/All/youtube_dl-2008.04.20.tbz whereas from within my home directory % pkg_create -Rb youtube_dl-2008.04.20 resulted in -rw-r--r-- 1 chrisw chrisw 8281 29 May 21:22 youtube_dl-2008.04.20.tbz similarly there is a size difference for the one or two dependency packages I checked that were created at the same time. make package in the ports directory insists on compiling and installing the port and seems to do a lot of other things like registering dependencies and creating symlinks in /usr/ports/packages/ whereas pkg_create just creates the package tarball (and dependencies). I would prefer to use pkg_create to avoid recompiling everything but I would like to know that installing a pkg_create package with pkg_add will properly install all the dependencies as well. Thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 21:13:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30501065672 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 21:13:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scain@exgenesis.com) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BA18FC19 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 21:13:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scain@exgenesis.com) Received: from [192.168.13.10] (ppp-70-250-176-172.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [70.250.176.172]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKpCa-1K1pEc1poM-0004F8; Thu, 29 May 2008 17:00:33 -0400 From: Shelby Cain To: Gunther Mayer In-Reply-To: <483EDA4B.1020408@googlemail.com> References: <483EA5AF.5040901@gmail.com> <20080529091524.d485ae21.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <483EDA4B.1020408@googlemail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-qUbaCLxOROHDdf/M2Epr" Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 16:00:28 -0500 Message-Id: <1212094828.22103.6.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18yesjho6Wqfeyn6HIqxxMPEwg2uoS3EPEfcs+ pQg0UOcsfAKQZ4m4tPaMlNFO68fH+wkZWHGi1HSyWCoHBeIhpb dzSk79UC5VxQcz5mQTsr0e6DDDMCtE7 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Best way of upgrading postgresql in production? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:13:08 -0000 --=-qUbaCLxOROHDdf/M2Epr Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 18:31 +0200, Gunther Mayer wrote: > Ok, you're probably right, I just haven't worked with jails before and=20 > have just read the wrong articles. I will investigate how I could=20 > install the newer version in a jail and keep both running at the same=20 > time during the upgrade, I'll probably run into more problems along the=20 > way but will post again if I'm stuck. >=20 I recently set up something very similar. I used the following as a guide web page as a gudie for getting a different version of Postgresql running in a jail when the host is already running a different version of Postgresql. http://www.freebsddiary.org/jail-multiple.php HTH, Shelby Cain --=-qUbaCLxOROHDdf/M2Epr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBIPxlsFioAnfS4MHQRAr/pAJ0UksxUi0mw6jDqmLbQ8FyD6MKOZgCfbV7x KrMoUQ1DxG2huEt+dXtuxiw= =670i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-qUbaCLxOROHDdf/M2Epr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 21:14:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009B6106568B for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 21:14:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scain@exgenesis.com) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A821D8FC24 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 21:14:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scain@exgenesis.com) Received: from [192.168.13.10] (ppp-70-250-176-172.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [70.250.176.172]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKpCa-1K1pNA3MwV-0004AB; Thu, 29 May 2008 17:09:23 -0400 From: Shelby Cain To: Gunther Mayer In-Reply-To: <1212094828.22103.6.camel@localhost> References: <483EA5AF.5040901@gmail.com> <20080529091524.d485ae21.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <483EDA4B.1020408@googlemail.com> <1212094828.22103.6.camel@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-7CiC5kO5Jx185JRdDQVc" Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 16:09:18 -0500 Message-Id: <1212095358.22103.10.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+7TtQ8cbnU4te8lF/cs96qfKMMfXA4hj+bZE1 1SF4Rv8QMzP5lHcLYUlMYodCXjzJRdgkUUp7hfZ1QzKrHqMxtr y0tw8cOvDFJabuPT0I7Ijw9y0+34Qpm Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Best way of upgrading postgresql in production? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:14:26 -0000 --=-7CiC5kO5Jx185JRdDQVc Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 16:00 -0500, Shelby Cain wrote: > guide web page as a gudie for getting a different version of Postgresql > running in a jail when the host is already running a different version > of Postgresql. This is what happens when you don't hit the wrong button in your mail client. :-/ That sentence should have read "I used the following web page as a guide for getting a different version of Postgresql running in jail..." Regards, Shelby Cain --=-7CiC5kO5Jx185JRdDQVc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBIPxt+FioAnfS4MHQRAmcoAJ9yyNAI70p1lbNDM4WRCIjFTYBG9gCfXTwc LiQ01AUymzEs4PN7P/lGin4= =vgM7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-7CiC5kO5Jx185JRdDQVc-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 21:17:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6391065750 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 21:17:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59138FC17 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 21:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m4TLDhZi039301; Thu, 29 May 2008 17:13:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m4TLDhec039300; Thu, 29 May 2008 17:13:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:13:43 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20080529211343.GB39240@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> <200805291305.22567.kline@thought.org> <483F1183.6060006@pixelhammer.com> <200805291352.22974.kline@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200805291352.22974.kline@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:17:44 -0000 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:52:22PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Thu May 29 2008 13:26:43 DAve wrote: > ... > > memory to load all the required libs in displaying "Hello World". Some > > of the CMS tools are very very heavy. Straight static HTML can be > > blisteringly fast in comparison unless you have low traffic or a fairly > > hefty server. Static HTML also doesn't show up in my CERT emails every > > month with security issues. > > > > My 2 cents worth... > > well, for years my favored method is "kiss" == "keep it simple, sir." Oh, you are polite. I am used to other interpretations for that second 's' ... > i'm still chiuckling over that tool that requires a GIG to load. > > gary > > ps: thanks to Google: CMS == "content mgnt system" > Yup. That is one of the more common. ////jerry > > > > > > DAve > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 21:25:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475721065679 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 21:25:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from raq5.nitrex.net (raq5.nitrex.net [213.165.227.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00558FC13 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 21:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.10.141] (gate.zenatode.org.uk [213.165.225.167]) by raq5.nitrex.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m4TLPmRl020114 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 29 May 2008 22:25:54 +0100 Message-ID: <483F1F5C.5060101@onetel.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 22:25:48 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080528) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kurt Buff References: <26face530805241258y199474edkcef7f79f8569b216@mail.gmail.com> <4838981D.4010906@onetel.com> <483DE440.8040308@onetel.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unix command-line tools to edit SharePoint site? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:25:57 -0000 Kurt Buff wrote: > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Chris Whitehouse wrote: >> Kurt Buff wrote: >>> On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Chris Whitehouse >>> wrote: >>>> http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ >>>> >>>> Chris >>> If you want to use some/many/most of the core utils on Windows, you'll >>> be much better off with http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net >>> >>> unxutils seems pretty moribund, and I have not been successful >>> downloading the updates from that site for a while. >>> >>> Kurt >> I'll have a look at these, thanks for the suggestion. I have to say though >> the unxutils commands that I have used work perfectly well despite their >> age, don't require cygwin and don't do silly registry things on windows. I >> need this as I'm using them on a work computer which I am not allowed to >> install software on :P >> >> Chris > > The unxutils work well, but the gnuwin32 stuff is a bit more current, > and more complete. They don't require any registry fiddling nor extra > DLLs, either, just like the unxutils stuff. I stick them in a > directory, and set my path up with that. Works well for me, anyway. > > > HTH, > > Kurt Cool! I will definitely check these out, thanks. (Sorry list, OT) Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 21:51:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7800106564A for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 21:51:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6FB8FC12 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 21:51:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4TLowA8072249; Thu, 29 May 2008 14:50:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 14:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 14:50:53 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20080529215053.GB62524@thought.org> References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:51:01 -0000 FWIW, I'Ve switch back to mutt. i can't live without vi.... On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:30:05AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > Don't bother, Gary. > > The world is moving towards CMS systems for hosting websites. do we have such a mngnmt system tool in ports?? > > The ultra-cheapo people use godaddy's site builder and > put crap on a crappy-looking interface. HMmmm. it's ben my experience that if you keep a page *simple*, that serves best. now i'm not talking about "Sam's New and Used Dildos and Computers" that's got animations screaming at you. With 50 text and graphic ads/page plus flashing text. i'm talking about something more together. low-impact AND inventive. i've learned that if the content sux, all the bells and whistles won't help. > > The better hosting companies each have their own site builders > and look better, and are populated by acres of garden-variety corporate > and the occassional personal sites. > > Very, very few people custom-write sites in HTML anymore. > Most people use sitebuilding software (frontpage was the original, > it's deprecated now in favor of other newer tools) either running > on their PC or on the server. > > black text on blue is terribly hard to read for most people, > read up on how the human eye works to understand why. the why is simple, reduced contrast; that's why i have black text on a white bg. Or so i thought until i saw how konquorer (and opera) were munging my homepage. firefox displays a graphic [link] with a stylized "J"; it is not displayed by the other 2. that might be where to start looking. > > Put your time into loading a CMS system on your server then > create your site in it. Yes the learning curve is steep in > the beginning but it's not rote memorization of HTML tags. It > is understanding how all the things work together. you probably didn't start with the earlier markup. back then, '93-4, there was
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, , and . i wrote a 2.2K-line program to handle "hi" -> ``hi'' and a couple other things. the code has evolved, of course, but still works. looks like what i need NOW is a debugger, :-) i have virtually zero design skills .... except "keep it simple" gary > > Ted > [[ save the electrons ]] > > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 22:00:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68CFD106566C for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 22:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C1F88FC17 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 22:00:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4TM0cSN072385; Thu, 29 May 2008 15:00:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 15:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 15:00:33 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Kevin Downey Message-ID: <20080529220033.GC62524@thought.org> References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> <1d3ed48c0805290038m5098e34bne51f919c9094ae04@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1d3ed48c0805290038m5098e34bne51f919c9094ae04@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 22:00:39 -0000 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:38:05AM -0700, Kevin Downey wrote: > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt > wrote: [[ ... ]] > Konq uses more or less the same rendering engine as Safari. interesting. where is this browser in ports. locate doesnt find it. tx for the datapoint. > > http://iamvoodoochile.redgrapellc.com/uploaded_images/1985-741912.jpg > -- break down of modern webdesign > > -- > The Mafia way is that we pursue larger goals under the guise of > personal relationships. > Fisheye -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 22:05:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619D0106564A for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 22:05:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8428FC1D for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 22:05:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K1qFi-0007BI-0i; Thu, 29 May 2008 23:05:42 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id m4TM5f1Y009029; Thu, 29 May 2008 23:05:41 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0EC2EFCA4AF; Thu, 29 May 2008 23:05:36 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 23:05:36 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20080529220536.GA39115@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> <4a89d1190805290039k1f2dedb1he342b4a83d7453a6@mail.gmail.com> <200805291305.22567.kline@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200805291305.22567.kline@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Thu, 29 May 2008 23:05:41 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 22:05:47 -0000 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:05:22PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Thu May 29 2008 00:39:06 Christian Zachariasen wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page > > > was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black > > > on the deep-blue bg on my RHS. I stopped and checked with > > > firefox; things looked fine. I've done all markup by hand since > > > '94, very carefully, with only browsers in the ports tree-- > > > mozilla, firefox, a couple others. > > > > > > About a week ago I viewed my homepage with KDE Konq and almost > > > flipped out. One "free" commercial historical calender event > > > feature was glued to the bottom of my blue bar (
) > > > on the RHS of the page. And yep, the new text and other things > > > were centered in the middle of the long blue rectangle. > > > > > > Since I have a few weeks now to work on things beside research, > > > it's time to update my main web page. My friend was using IE; > > > it may be that Konqueror uses a similar parser to position > > > things on a .php or .html page. > > > > > > Other than beginning from Zero and trying to determine exactly > > > what causes firefox and konq to diverge, do any of you have any > > > other ideas? I've never learned an HTML editors because of the > > > learning curve. But:: if/when I come up with a better design for > > > my home page, I'm willing to try again:: any best (simple) HTML > > > editors in ports? > > > > > > I'd be much obliged for any help here. > > > > > > > > > > I say keep using the technique you're using now. That's what I'd > > do. Instead of finding a HTML Editor just find a simple text > > editor and write all your HTML in a clean manner. > > > > I don't know where Ted got his statistics from, but most people I > > know use simple text editors for writing their HTML, CSS and > > JavaScript. Personally I stick to vi or diakonos on BSD and > > Notepad2 on Windows. > > > /* > * strange:: the way that mutt queues [ and orders ] its replies and theads is > * different from kmail. I only use a GUI when there is a URL embedded, but > * it must be down-queue. .... > */ Use textproc/urlview with mutt & Firefox. > > > I would *rather* use vi and HTML-by-hand. And produce very simple, > readable, uncluttered pages. I don't use many graphics, e.g., I > use the strength of HTML, php, blah ** 3. > > I'm ready to learn this "CMS" that Ted mentioned if I knew what it > was! And if its in ports. AFAIK, the only pages that look bizarre > are my initial "www" (and one other based on it). I'll google > around to find out what CMS is... Since you're "a do it by hand" person, I'll give you the benefit of my experiences doing my pages that way. My site is on a similar scale to yours and I've just kept it simple except where I've used server-side (PHP/Perl) and Javascript. 1. Use Firefox to develop with and install the webdeveloper plug-in: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/60 Use vim not vi, since you get syntax highlighting with vim/gvim. Add x11/rgb to your system and: $ showrgb | less will show you the websafe colours. Plug in the numbers to your stylesheet to get your preferred colours. You can view the colours with e.g: $ xterm -bg steelblue Or: http://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_colornames.asp I use Gimp for any graphics. 2. Choose a standard that you are going to code to and validate against. I use XHTML1.0 Transitional and CSS. Things are going more XML than HTML and transitional is less restrictive than strict. 3. Have a look at w3c schools site to learn your chosen language: http://www.w3schools.com/ There are various tutorials and references there. Best site on the 'net! 4. Steal a simple page that validates: http://www.shute.org.uk/miscellany.html and use it as a template to hack on. Steal the style sheet too. Validate your webpage as you go along with the w3c validator. 5. A few tips: Use

's for layout, not tables. Don't use fixed text heights, use relative so it respects the users preferences for text size. Keep an eye out for pages that look nice and validate. View source & then steal chunks of xhtml and css. 6. Happy hacking! You'll find that your validated pages will show fine in most modern browsers although some have more quirks than others. But when you get somebody say "Your webpage doesn't look right in Internet Exploder 5" you can say to them "Get a proper browser that respects web standards! Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 22:14:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87AB3106567E for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 22:14:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4578FC14 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 22:14:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4TMEP4x072519; Thu, 29 May 2008 15:14:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 15:14:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 15:14:21 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20080529221421.GD62524@thought.org> References: <1d3ed48c0805290038m5098e34bne51f919c9094ae04@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Kevin Downey , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 22:14:26 -0000 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 05:00:57AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Downey [mailto:redchin@gmail.com] > > > > Let be the first of many to say, please do not top post. > > Let me be the first to say please don't quote the entire posting > and the entire response. > > > In a recent interview it was revealed that the New York Times does a > > lot of by hand html writing because it just gets you better html. > > Of course it does. And I would expect a really professional > site to do so. But, your not paying attention to what he is > saying: > > "... trying to determine exactly what causes firefox and konq to diverge..." > > An html author who writes by hand MUST know about ALL browser > idiosyncracies. The OP does not want to know this or he would > have TESTED with all browsers years ago. And the context indicates > he really doesen't want to know. Chill down a bit, okay? first, (as the OP), i did not know thaat there was *this** great a disparity in thee rendering between classes of browsers. i used to stick pretty close to the w3.org (or whatever it was). i didn't think the difference extended to how the stuff was parsed. BZZZT. letsee, that 25 trillion for Life, 3 for gary. ..... > --the OP -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 22:14:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1552D1065671 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 22:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A368FC0C for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 22:14:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so4345310rvf.43 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 15:14:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=9ZYKrbUy5S8pB5Xna4x4snaxaqpf/ukmgGt5VtULfa0=; b=rPQ4taA6MX9i5/fKBZx67rXec1mE9p61vVlTLIjok6oMZj+O0IXEnHaf01G0IyiQvOelVhTLE3z0Hp1HjrsNm1mGrTs1orQVfFMMhlcxOVunr1FiIVJtbUUbF8gRpqKAO1yRGWHrDP+akhDU0mEoFnFwXQ0YD6w8eQr5FwuSCck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rg0YuuPbwy9L1RAPZeeyPd33dX0L9UlbgXsDowRLbGCRz7J7gJB7sb402b2WPoCovFQlsUQa763bh2nINMFRPZvK3/SeQfuZpbNMA+ztcjQ0NX9Z22XF54s0nuaNHEU37yan5gwIJrFjD3iYK8GE5s1aF4yGSgwGskB7cQ0yOfg= Received: by 10.141.29.21 with SMTP id g21mr2590957rvj.225.1212099266874; Thu, 29 May 2008 15:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.248.15 with HTTP; Thu, 29 May 2008 15:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54db43990805291514l52140608le23b39a760a64a0c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 18:14:26 -0400 From: "Bob Johnson" To: "Gary Kline" In-Reply-To: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 22:14:28 -0000 On 5/29/08, Gary Kline wrote: > Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page > was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black [...] > I'd be much obliged for any help here. > > Konqueror says that the comment that reads isn't closed until the end of the next comment way down the page, so it is ignoring all the code in between. I think that's your problem (there is a typo in the close of the comment). In other words, Konqueror seems to be displaying the page correctly. The other browsers are probably (incorrectly) treating end-of-line as end-of-comment. When you "View Document Source" in Konqueror, it highlights the markup to make it easier to spot such problems, and comments stand out pretty distinctly. In fact, it appears there are a few other places with that same typo (closing a comment with "--!>"). - Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 22:51:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242D3106566C for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 22:51:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7018B8FC13 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 22:51:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl38-53.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.165.53]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-1) with ESMTP id m4TMjggD025221 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 30 May 2008 01:45:49 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4TMjfkN006936; Fri, 30 May 2008 01:45:41 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m4TMjdaV006935; Fri, 30 May 2008 01:45:39 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Chris Whitehouse References: <483F1ACE.50208@onetel.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 01:45:39 +0300 In-Reply-To: <483F1ACE.50208@onetel.com> (Chris Whitehouse's message of "Thu, 29 May 2008 22:06:22 +0100") Message-ID: <87skw0wwz0.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: m4TMjggD025221 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.788, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.61, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: pkg_create v make package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 22:51:47 -0000 On Thu, 29 May 2008 22:06:22 +0100, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Hi > > What's the difference between packages made by these two methods? > > Eg I have youtube_dl installed. From within the youtube_dl port directory > > # make package-recursive > > resulted in > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 8389 29 May 21:14 /usr/ports/packages/All/youtube_dl-2008.04.20.tbz > > whereas from within my home directory > > % pkg_create -Rb youtube_dl-2008.04.20 > > resulted in > -rw-r--r-- 1 chrisw chrisw 8281 29 May 21:22 youtube_dl-2008.04.20.tbz Packages are just 'tarballs with extra stuff'. You can extract the two tarballs and use `diff -r' to see where they differ :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 23:07:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06EC7106566B for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 23:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686308FC14 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 23:07:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl38-53.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.165.53]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-1) with ESMTP id m4TN7KpC027553 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 30 May 2008 02:07:26 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4TN7JoB007067; Fri, 30 May 2008 02:07:19 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m4TN7HRt007066; Fri, 30 May 2008 02:07:17 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Jerry McAllister References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> <20080529195221.GA38690@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 02:07:17 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20080529195221.GA38690@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> (Jerry McAllister's message of "Thu, 29 May 2008 15:52:21 -0400") Message-ID: <877idcwvyy.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: m4TN7KpC027553 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.786, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.61, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Patrick Baldwin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 23:07:43 -0000 On Thu, 29 May 2008 15:52:21 -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:35:27PM -0400, Patrick Baldwin wrote: >> Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my >> mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm >> thinking FreeBSD might be the best choice of OS for the replacement. >> >> I've only got about two dozen users, though they are all very heavy >> users of email. I'm using IMAP, and I'd like to continue to do so. >> >> Finally, we have quite a few aliases I'd want to port over to a >> new server. > > Given that, a FreeBSD system could be almost a drop-in replacement. > Sendmail should be the same or very nearly so (depends on the version > you are using now and the nre version). Nice finger-slip in 'new/nre' :) I fully agree that FreeBSD+Sendmail should be an almost drop-in replacement for Solaris+Sendmail. > Aliases should work just the same. Your only differences might be in > where some things live. But, check out the hier(7) man page in > FreeBSD. It documents the FreeBSD directory conventions. Patrick, Jerry is right. If you are comfortable with Sendmail on Solaris, you should be pretty ok with the base system version of the same on FreeBSD too. Moving the aliases is probably just a matter of copying over the aliases from Solaris to `/etc/mail/aliases' and running `newaliases'. That's all. > There are other MTAs and other utilities available to experiment with. > But, if you are comfortable with sendmail, there is no reason to > change. It is mature and very functional; does what you need. A > modern machine with FreeBSD 7.x should handle large numbers of Email > users - even heavy users. An old Intel Pentium at 400 MHz handles the email traffic of all local users (several dozen) and many mailing lists, in one of the domains I am affiliated with. It also runs MailScanner and spamassassin. Relatively modern systems can go a very long way :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 23:55:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9051065673 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 23:55:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dduong@goldenmunky.org) Received: from goldenmunky.org (206-248-139-62.dsl.teksavvy.com [206.248.139.62]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DFE8FC16 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 23:55:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dduong@goldenmunky.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by goldenmunky.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA3F3984D; Thu, 29 May 2008 18:41:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at goldenmunky.org Received: from goldenmunky.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (saturn.goldenmunky.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eWTLnnbQUfJu; Thu, 29 May 2008 18:41:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.49] (unknown [192.168.2.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by goldenmunky.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5EE733981E; Thu, 29 May 2008 18:41:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <483F3E69.9030403@goldenmunky.org> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 19:38:17 -0400 From: David Duong User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> In-Reply-To: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 23:55:45 -0000 Patrick Baldwin wrote: > Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my > mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm > thinking FreeBSD might be the best choice of OS for the replacement. > > However, it's been some time since I looked into options for mail > servers. I'm interested in both suggestions for hardware and mail > servers that would make for the best FreeBSD based mail server. > > I've only got about two dozen users, though they are all very heavy > users of email. I'm using IMAP, and I'd like to continue to do so. > > Finally, we have quite a few aliases I'd want to port over to a > new server. > > Thanks, > I also suggest Postfix + dovecot. Great combination :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 23:56:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09EB71065670 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 23:56:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from bulwark.hamla.org (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB068FC1A for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 23:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (bulwark [69.55.228.210]) by bulwark.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFDDC1CD30; Thu, 29 May 2008 16:56:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at bulwark.hamla.org Received: from bulwark.hamla.org ([69.55.228.210]) by localhost (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id B7wtV8k7J5EV; Thu, 29 May 2008 16:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 19:55:55 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: Patrick Baldwin Message-ID: <20080529235555.GA49253@shepherd> Mail-Followup-To: Patrick Baldwin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 23:56:01 -0000 Patrick Baldwin wrote: > Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my > mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm > thinking FreeBSD might be the best choice of OS for the replacement. FreeBSD == good choice. :) > However, it's been some time since I looked into options for mail > servers. I'm interested in both suggestions for hardware and mail > servers that would make for the best FreeBSD based mail server. > > I've only got about two dozen users, though they are all very heavy > users of email. I'm using IMAP, and I'd like to continue to do so. That's a small user base, so you don't "need" to invest much in hardware. For the server, I highly recommend Postfix. > Finally, we have quite a few aliases I'd want to port over to a > new server. That should be fairly straightforward; for hints, see the mailing list archive for your MTA, or ask them the question. -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 00:08:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62715106564A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 00:08:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB09A8FC18 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 00:08:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7034935000; Fri, 30 May 2008 02:08:55 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 02:08:53 +0200 From: cpghost To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20080530020853.728f053e@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <20080529215053.GB62524@thought.org> References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> <20080529215053.GB62524@thought.org> Organization: Cordula's Web X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 00:08:58 -0000 On Thu, 29 May 2008 14:50:53 -0700 Gary Kline wrote: > > The world is moving towards CMS systems for hosting websites. > > do we have such a mngnmt system tool in ports?? How about Plone or other Zope-based apps? Plone is in ports: /usr/ports/www/plone3 as is Silva: /usr/ports/www/zope-silva But be forewarned: both are resource hogs and need a reasonable fast server to run smoothly if you've got a lot of traffic; and finding a good Zope-provider may prove a little more difficult than the usual LAMP-based el-cheapo web hosting accounts... -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 01:20:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ABA91065684 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 01:20:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [206.117.18.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19628FC17 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 01:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.198] (pool-71-109-162-173.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.109.162.173]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.2/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m4U1KBav083902 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 18:20:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Message-Id: <5D4076C6-C727-404E-A617-6F0489641020@lafn.org> From: Doug Hardie To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <20080529235555.GA49253@shepherd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 18:20:11 -0700 References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> <20080529235555.GA49253@shepherd> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/7287/Thu May 29 12:39:20 2008 on zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 01:20:13 -0000 On May 29, 2008, at 16:55, Sahil Tandon wrote: > Patrick Baldwin wrote: > >> Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my >> mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm >> thinking FreeBSD might be the best choice of OS for the replacement. I am currently using a 2U server from abmx.com for my mail server. It has a quad processor in it and it runs sendmail, dspam, tmda, clamav, and some local stuff in addition to a number of other functions not related to mail. It was cheaper than the equivalent DELL servers and it appears to be all top of the line components. It serves several thousand users, many of which receive a lot of mail (I suspect much of it is spam). load averages: 0.17, 0.43, 0.35. Those are typical. You may not need that much horsepower, by my servers are quite a way from me and there is no one there most of the time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 01:35:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A121A106566B for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 01:35:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D7B8FC17 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 01:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5120168A54C; Thu, 29 May 2008 22:35:46 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00920-02; Thu, 29 May 2008 22:35:40 -0300 (ADT) Received: from fserv.hub.org (blk-224-204-104.eastlink.ca [24.224.204.104]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6597516893F4; Thu, 29 May 2008 22:35:46 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [192.168.1.2]) by fserv.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C194CCC6; Thu, 29 May 2008 22:35:51 -0300 (ADT) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 22:33:21 -0300 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20080528095456.F8870@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <9A8B941DE58060D25F514F0D@ganymede.hub.org> <20080528095456.F8870@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based router ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 01:35:48 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ability to route several C-class networks through multiple incoming fiber connections using BGP4, including VLAN support ... we're trying to keep the DC as 'FreeBSD centric' as we can, which is why the interest in someone like Juniper vs going with Cisco ... - --On Wednesday, May 28, 2008 09:55:07 +0200 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> Does anyone know of anyone make an enterprise level router based off of >> FreeBSD? > > define what "enterprise level router" is > >> >> - -- >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) >> Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org >> Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAkg8u+cACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvMF8wCg25K5IaX4/DIHk8KFIAfKXe/b >> decAoOqllLM7c6ty7wwXcwuPlEk/xSo6 >> =O+GR >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> - -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkg/WWEACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvONuACgwwegEBBMKq0oXsySdz4cjSX/ V5IAoJXia1wjfxgFgztnJ8WRTQzv/B8l =ZBFL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 02:39:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 367011065673 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 02:39:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CADCA8FC17 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 02:39:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4U2d7GN076195; Thu, 29 May 2008 19:39:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 19:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 19:39:02 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080530023902.GF62524@thought.org> References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> <4a89d1190805290039k1f2dedb1he342b4a83d7453a6@mail.gmail.com> <200805291305.22567.kline@thought.org> <20080529220536.GA39115@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080529220536.GA39115@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 02:39:11 -0000 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:05:36PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote: > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:05:22PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > [[ ... ]] > > > /* > > * strange:: the way that mutt queues [ and orders ] its replies and threads is > > * different from kmail. I only use a GUI when there is a URL embedded, but > > * it must be down-queue. .... > > */ > > Use textproc/urlview with mutt & Firefox. Frank, can you do me a favor and mail your ~/.urlview, please? I installed this program a few years ago, but it only worked with lynx. I just found the url_handler.sh script so now have a clue.... but if your ~/.urlview points to firefox you'll save me some typing. --Also [going further OT], I like Konsole even better than xterm.-- > > > > > > > I would *rather* use vi and HTML-by-hand. And produce very simple, > > readable, uncluttered pages. I don't use many graphics, e.g., I > > use the strength of HTML, php, blah ** 3. > > > > > Since you're "a do it by hand" person, I'll give you the benefit of my > experiences doing my pages that way. > > My site is on a similar scale to yours and I've just kept it simple > except where I've used server-side (PHP/Perl) and Javascript. Sounds like what I've done, more/less. My index file in www/data is PHP. php keeps getting closer to C, &c; I've written a few things in php. > > 1. > > Use Firefox to develop with and install the webdeveloper plug-in: > > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/60 > > Use vim not vi, since you get syntax highlighting with vim/gvim. Mm, I'm familiar with vim; like it all right, but lost my ~/.vimrc file (and my backup). NP in this case. vim does a solid job of highlighting. > > Add x11/rgb to your system and: > > $ showrgb | less > > will show you the websafe colours. Plug in the numbers to your > stylesheet to get your preferred colours. You can view the colours > with e.g: > > $ xterm -bg steelblue > > Or: > > http://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_colornames.asp Have the rgb app; when I began building my jottings pages I knew the colors would set the philosophic/meditative mood, so in early '02 I ripped off the light blue from the philosophy pages at Lampeter. Then used various color wheels to choose the other colors. This is about the outer limits of my "design capabilities", :-) > > I use Gimp for any graphics. Impressive. Anything at the level of The GIMP is beyond me. > > 2. > > Choose a standard that you are going to code to and validate against. > I use XHTML1.0 Transitional and CSS. Things are going more XML than > HTML and transitional is less restrictive than strict. > Here is where it may be best to take this offlist. I'm guessing that XHTML is "extended-HTML." Yes/no? >= 10 years ago I created some short stories andor essays using the Sytle Sheets. But as you point out, XML is prob'ly the future of markup and I know next to nothing about it. For example, given John, *where/what* defines the tag? Since the WWW bunch has given XML the nod, it is both the present and future of a lot of the web. ---So, are there any books for Beginners you recommend? You or anyone else onlist who has waded thru this plea! > 3. > > Have a look at w3c schools site to learn your chosen language: > > http://www.w3schools.com/ > > There are various tutorials and references there. Best site on the > 'net! > hMMM:-) Maybe I should've read ahead.... . > 4. > > Steal a simple page that validates: > > http://www.shute.org.uk/miscellany.html > > and use it as a template to hack on. Steal the style sheet too. > > Validate your webpage as you go along with the w3c validator. Should I just google for the validator? At any rate, thanks much for the two URL's above. The more I can learn on my own (without bothering anyone else), the better. > > 5. > > A few tips: > > Use
's for layout, not tables. i cannot // hhaven't made sense of
since I first saw it. *This* may be where I've confused IE and Konq and it might be the easiest way to create the layout that firefox gives me. As I see it, ttables let you put rectangles anywhere; then you can putt other things inside; how to do this with
is one more black hole. > > Don't use fixed text heights, use relative so it respects the users > preferences for text size. I didn't understand you could hardwire a textsize; maybe I've done it inadvertently ... > > Keep an eye out for pages that look nice and validate. View source & > then steal chunks of xhtml and css. > I still have unread messages down-queue, but may as well ask if there are any HTML/XML checkers in ports that would help validate my mark. David Kelly suggested www/tidy, for one. It's been partly ignorance, partly my deadlines, and partly my thinking that my pages just could never be as badly rendered as they are that made me snap-to. Like to prevent this... . > 6. > > Happy hacking! > > > You'll find that your validated pages will show fine in most modern > browsers although some have more quirks than others. But when you get > somebody say "Your webpage doesn't look right in Internet Exploder 5" > you can say to them "Get a proper browser that respects web > standards! L.O.L!. I'm hoping that most people have something better than W95. thanks again, and cheers, gary > > Regards, > > > -- > > Frank > > > Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 03:20:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54D81065670 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 03:20:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B068FC13 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 03:20:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4U3K5UY076460; Thu, 29 May 2008 20:20:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 20:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:20:01 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Bob Johnson Message-ID: <20080530032001.GG62524@thought.org> References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> <54db43990805291514l52140608le23b39a760a64a0c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <54db43990805291514l52140608le23b39a760a64a0c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 03:20:06 -0000 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 06:14:26PM -0400, Bob Johnson wrote: > On 5/29/08, Gary Kline wrote: > > Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page > > was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black > [...] > > I'd be much obliged for any help here. > > > > > > Konqueror says that the comment that reads > > > > isn't closed until the end of the next comment way down the page, so > it is ignoring all the code in between. I think that's your problem > (there is a typo in the close of the comment). In other words, > Konqueror seems to be displaying the page correctly. The other > browsers are probably (incorrectly) treating end-of-line as > end-of-comment. > > When you "View Document Source" in Konqueror, it highlights the markup > to make it easier to spot such problems, and comments stand out pretty > distinctly. In fact, it appears there are a few other places with that > same typo (closing a comment with "--!>"). > yes! it looks like you are right on the money! next time you are in seattle, i'll buy you a beer. (also, this may explain why sometimes my comments bombbed during testing. i thought " was *legal*. *mumble::censored*) thank you * 1000, gary > - Bob -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 03:34:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F6C4106566B for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 03:34:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hjjp76@yahoo.com) Received: from web81505.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81505.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD25F8FC0A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 03:34:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hjjp76@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 6547 invoked by uid 60001); 30 May 2008 03:08:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=xAYszjvpGzPXC4Xhrm4JYASbriGzaH/tKSKXFZJ/+CxoZLPivMy2B5Ek7aoBTcAMp93z8NWX/dY4OJyfTdbxToO3vsN3lEjyyY0x3r1yR8MQEE40GuU70wztXrl38vunJ2X7vv29XQVTsEn5os0KdEYypcQ1K6nD8uwep+Sxkro=; X-YMail-OSG: e1lOF10VM1lxvYtfQjymKm0nnOGBpbR6JdIR2DywNYZdc2Rxi9XMBzUR7THkKALphrNaLjfGbLEgnjADC1.XhJDdf7YrQGhGSnblTGdjnZipbOFr6IQGzVYTQw-- Received: from [69.228.142.17] by web81505.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 29 May 2008 20:08:12 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/975.41 YahooMailWebService/0.7.185 Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:08:12 -0700 (PDT) From: joe park To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <775238.5923.qm@web81505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: service (torque) not starting at boot time on 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 03:34:54 -0000 Hello, I've searched the mailing list, but it didn't help the issue I'm seeing. I did fresh install of 7.0, downloaded latest ports.tar.gz, and installed torque (portable batch system) from ports. Everything works fine once the deamon is running, but the services (namely, pbs_mom, pbs_server, and pbs_sched) are not started automatically when the system boots. I can manually start them without a problem with /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pbs_mom start /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pbs_server start /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pbs_sched start The /etc/rc.conf file correctly has following entries : pbs_mom_enable="YES" pbs_server_enable="YES" pbs_sched_enable="YES" When I added "rc_debug="YES", I see that it's not processing any of pbs related process. I tried adding .sh extension to the /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pbs_* scripts, chmod 755 on them (it's 555 by default), getting rid of all other entries in /etc/rc.conf except pbs entries, etc, but I cannot get them to start. Any ideas? I appended full content of /etc/rc.conf. Thanks, Joe # Created: Thu May 22 09:25:54 2008 # Enable network daemons for user convenience. # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. ifconfig_bge0="inet 192.168.3.97 netmask 255.255.255.0" defaultrouter="192.168.3.2" hostname="node001.xxx.com" linux_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" pbs_mom_enable="YES" pbs_server_enable="YES" pbs_sched_enable="YES" rc_debug="YES" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 04:14:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8CCD106573C for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 04:14:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from bulwark.hamla.org (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C988FC1B for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 04:14:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (bulwark [69.55.228.210]) by bulwark.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947EE1CD31; Thu, 29 May 2008 21:14:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at bulwark.hamla.org Received: from bulwark.hamla.org ([69.55.228.210]) by localhost (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id uW5H+erGkmhk; Thu, 29 May 2008 21:14:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 00:14:08 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: joe park Message-ID: <20080530041408.GC49359@shepherd> Mail-Followup-To: joe park , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <775238.5923.qm@web81505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <775238.5923.qm@web81505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: service (torque) not starting at boot time on 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 04:14:15 -0000 joe park wrote: > I've searched the mailing list, but it didn't help the issue I'm seeing. I > did fresh install of 7.0, downloaded latest ports.tar.gz, and installed > torque (portable batch system) from ports. Everything works fine once the > deamon is running, but the services (namely, pbs_mom, pbs_server, and > pbs_sched) are not started automatically when the system boots. I can > manually start them without a problem with > > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pbs_mom start > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pbs_server start > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pbs_sched start > > The /etc/rc.conf file correctly has following entries : > > pbs_mom_enable="YES" > pbs_server_enable="YES" > pbs_sched_enable="YES" > > When I added "rc_debug="YES", I see that it's not processing any of pbs > related process. I cannot reproduce this problem on a fresh install of 7.0 with the latest version of torque. Do you see any clues in /var/log/messages? On my system, with rc_debug="YES" in /etc/rc.conf (with some truncation to allow for wrapping): % awk '/DEBUG/ && /pbs/ && /check/' /var/log/messages beast root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: pbs_server_enable is set to YES. beast root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: pbs_sched_enable is set to YES. beast root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: pbs_mom_enable is set to YES. The pbs_* lines are processed at boot. -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 04:56:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D42106564A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 04:56:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hjjp76@yahoo.com) Received: from web81504.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81504.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C6C2B8FC2C for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 04:56:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hjjp76@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 16780 invoked by uid 60001); 30 May 2008 04:56:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=K87Tu2CbMQwBbQ7S30e3rwGSRjyvwmKdCN1QguXrJL2/bhkki/ypbVfrXqfW4XKQo3+abh5rFJoIrPotDNQG3+OSzz1kolhAtAAgSZVXWAppias+Y4h5j8eKUto2OyoQa98mIKjyfO3AxuX3ySf1gq+Gwp60l8qzWy9FPkZjKJ0=; X-YMail-OSG: ZJnEAP0VM1nKDkzcJSFtRa1Ud1usfkyOTL7xcc8jrVcNrXTh4sm6gUGO6ytNq8qgTVfcN9A0luehNHgq6bRrq.YcC.j9MDd7TsUCkQR6ztjaos69zFwRRD7DIQ-- Received: from [69.228.142.17] by web81504.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 29 May 2008 21:56:26 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/975.41 YahooMailWebService/0.7.185 Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:56:26 -0700 (PDT) From: joe park To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <128582.16167.qm@web81504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: service (torque) not starting at boot time on 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 04:56:28 -0000 Thanks for a reply. I'm pretty stumped why it's not starting. I feel like I'm missing something very obvious... There is nothing in messages with pbs # awk '/DEBUG/ && /pbs/ && /check/' /var/log/messages # When start it manually, then pbs logs it at messages # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pbs_mom start /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pbs_mom: DEBUG: checkyesno: pbs_mom_enable is set to YES. Starting pbs_mom. /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pbs_mom: DEBUG: run_rc_command: doit: /usr/local/sbin/pbs_mom Following is debug msg from /var/log/messages # awk '/DEBUG/ && /check/' /var/log/messages May 29 20:42:09 node001 root: /etc/rc.shutdown: DEBUG: checkyesno: hostapd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:42:09 node001 root: /etc/rc.shutdown: DEBUG: checkyesno: inetd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:42:09 node001 root: /etc/rc.shutdown: DEBUG: checkyesno: mixer_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:42:09 node001 root: /etc/rc.shutdown: DEBUG: checkyesno: jail_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:42:09 node001 root: /etc/rc.shutdown: DEBUG: checkyesno: cron_dst is set to YES. May 29 20:42:09 node001 root: /etc/rc.shutdown: DEBUG: checkyesno: cron_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:42:09 node001 root: /etc/rc.shutdown: DEBUG: checkyesno: auditd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:42:09 node001 root: /etc/rc.shutdown: DEBUG: checkyesno: nfs_client_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:42:09 node001 root: /etc/rc.shutdown: DEBUG: checkyesno: named_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:42:09 node001 root: /etc/rc.shutdown: DEBUG: checkyesno: ipfs_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: ldconfig_insecure is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: ibcs2_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sysvipc_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: linux_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: svr4_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: named_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: ntpdate_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: rpcbind_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: nis_server_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: nis_ypxfrd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: rpc_ypupdated_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: nis_client_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: nis_ypset_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: nis_yppasswdd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: accounting_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: nfs_client_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: amd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: atm_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: auditd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: clear_tmp_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: clear_tmp_X is set to YES. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: clear_tmp_X is set to YES. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: dmesg_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: ipxrouted_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: kerberos5_server_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: kadmind5_server_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: keyserv_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: kpasswdd_server_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: enable_quotas is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: nfs_server_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: mountd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: nfs_server_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: rpc_statd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: rpc_lockd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: pppoed_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: run_rc_command: doit: pwcheck_start May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: virecover_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: watchdogd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: ugidfw_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: timed_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: apm_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: apmd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: bootparamd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: hcsecd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: bthidd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: lpd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: update_motd is set to YES. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: nscd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: ntpd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: powerd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: rarpd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: rtadvd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: rwhod_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sdpd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sshd_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:41 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sendmail_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:41 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sendmail_submit_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:41 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sendmail_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:41 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sendmail_submit_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:41 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sendmail_submit_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:41 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sendmail_submit_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:41 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sendmail_rebuild_aliases is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sendmail_outbound_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sendmail_msp_queue_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sendmail_msp_queue_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sendmail_rebuild_aliases is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: cron_dst is set to YES. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: cron_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: jail_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: kern_securelevel_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: moused_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: mixer_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: inetd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: idmapd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: hostapd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: ftpd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: ftpproxy_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: bsnmpd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: background_fsck is set to YES. ----- Original Message ---- From: Sahil Tandon To: joe park Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:14:08 PM Subject: Re: service (torque) not starting at boot time on 7.0 joe park wrote: > I've searched the mailing list, but it didn't help the issue I'm seeing. I > did fresh install of 7.0, downloaded latest ports.tar.gz, and installed > torque (portable batch system) from ports. Everything works fine once the > deamon is running, but the services (namely, pbs_mom, pbs_server, and > pbs_sched) are not started automatically when the system boots. I can > manually start them without a problem with > > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pbs_mom start > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pbs_server start > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pbs_sched start > > The /etc/rc.conf file correctly has following entries : > > pbs_mom_enable="YES" > pbs_server_enable="YES" > pbs_sched_enable="YES" > > When I added "rc_debug="YES", I see that it's not processing any of pbs > related process. I cannot reproduce this problem on a fresh install of 7.0 with the latest version of torque. Do you see any clues in /var/log/messages? On my system, with rc_debug="YES" in /etc/rc.conf (with some truncation to allow for wrapping): % awk '/DEBUG/ && /pbs/ && /check/' /var/log/messages beast root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: pbs_server_enable is set to YES. beast root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: pbs_sched_enable is set to YES. beast root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: pbs_mom_enable is set to YES. The pbs_* lines are processed at boot. -- Sahil Tandon _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 04:56:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29871106566C for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 04:56:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hjjp76@yahoo.com) Received: from web81504.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81504.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C6A568FC2B for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 04:56:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hjjp76@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 16780 invoked by uid 60001); 30 May 2008 04:56:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=K87Tu2CbMQwBbQ7S30e3rwGSRjyvwmKdCN1QguXrJL2/bhkki/ypbVfrXqfW4XKQo3+abh5rFJoIrPotDNQG3+OSzz1kolhAtAAgSZVXWAppias+Y4h5j8eKUto2OyoQa98mIKjyfO3AxuX3ySf1gq+Gwp60l8qzWy9FPkZjKJ0=; X-YMail-OSG: ZJnEAP0VM1nKDkzcJSFtRa1Ud1usfkyOTL7xcc8jrVcNrXTh4sm6gUGO6ytNq8qgTVfcN9A0luehNHgq6bRrq.YcC.j9MDd7TsUCkQR6ztjaos69zFwRRD7DIQ-- Received: from [69.228.142.17] by web81504.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 29 May 2008 21:56:26 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/975.41 YahooMailWebService/0.7.185 Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:56:26 -0700 (PDT) From: joe park To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <128582.16167.qm@web81504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: service (torque) not starting at boot time on 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 04:56:28 -0000 Thanks for a reply. I'm pretty stumped why it's not starting. I feel like I'm missing something very obvious... There is nothing in messages with pbs # awk '/DEBUG/ && /pbs/ && /check/' /var/log/messages # When start it manually, then pbs logs it at messages # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pbs_mom start /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pbs_mom: DEBUG: checkyesno: pbs_mom_enable is set to YES. Starting pbs_mom. /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pbs_mom: DEBUG: run_rc_command: doit: /usr/local/sbin/pbs_mom Following is debug msg from /var/log/messages # awk '/DEBUG/ && /check/' /var/log/messages May 29 20:42:09 node001 root: /etc/rc.shutdown: DEBUG: checkyesno: hostapd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:42:09 node001 root: /etc/rc.shutdown: DEBUG: checkyesno: inetd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:42:09 node001 root: /etc/rc.shutdown: DEBUG: checkyesno: mixer_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:42:09 node001 root: /etc/rc.shutdown: DEBUG: checkyesno: jail_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:42:09 node001 root: /etc/rc.shutdown: DEBUG: checkyesno: cron_dst is set to YES. May 29 20:42:09 node001 root: /etc/rc.shutdown: DEBUG: checkyesno: cron_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:42:09 node001 root: /etc/rc.shutdown: DEBUG: checkyesno: auditd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:42:09 node001 root: /etc/rc.shutdown: DEBUG: checkyesno: nfs_client_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:42:09 node001 root: /etc/rc.shutdown: DEBUG: checkyesno: named_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:42:09 node001 root: /etc/rc.shutdown: DEBUG: checkyesno: ipfs_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: ldconfig_insecure is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: ibcs2_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sysvipc_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: linux_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: svr4_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: named_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: ntpdate_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: rpcbind_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: nis_server_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: nis_ypxfrd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: rpc_ypupdated_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: nis_client_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: nis_ypset_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: nis_yppasswdd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: accounting_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: nfs_client_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: amd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: atm_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: auditd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: clear_tmp_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: clear_tmp_X is set to YES. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: clear_tmp_X is set to YES. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: dmesg_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: ipxrouted_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: kerberos5_server_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: kadmind5_server_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: keyserv_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: kpasswdd_server_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: enable_quotas is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: nfs_server_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: mountd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: nfs_server_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: rpc_statd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: rpc_lockd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: pppoed_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: run_rc_command: doit: pwcheck_start May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: virecover_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: watchdogd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: ugidfw_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: timed_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: apm_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: apmd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: bootparamd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: hcsecd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: bthidd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: lpd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: update_motd is set to YES. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: nscd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: ntpd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: powerd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: rarpd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: rtadvd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: rwhod_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sdpd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:40 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sshd_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:41 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sendmail_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:41 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sendmail_submit_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:41 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sendmail_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:41 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sendmail_submit_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:41 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sendmail_submit_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:41 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sendmail_submit_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:41 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sendmail_rebuild_aliases is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sendmail_outbound_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sendmail_msp_queue_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sendmail_msp_queue_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: sendmail_rebuild_aliases is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: cron_dst is set to YES. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: cron_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: jail_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: kern_securelevel_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: moused_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: mixer_enable is set to YES. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: inetd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: idmapd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: hostapd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: ftpd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: ftpproxy_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: bsnmpd_enable is set to NO. May 29 20:43:46 node001 root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: background_fsck is set to YES. ----- Original Message ---- From: Sahil Tandon To: joe park Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:14:08 PM Subject: Re: service (torque) not starting at boot time on 7.0 joe park wrote: > I've searched the mailing list, but it didn't help the issue I'm seeing. I > did fresh install of 7.0, downloaded latest ports.tar.gz, and installed > torque (portable batch system) from ports. Everything works fine once the > deamon is running, but the services (namely, pbs_mom, pbs_server, and > pbs_sched) are not started automatically when the system boots. I can > manually start them without a problem with > > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pbs_mom start > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pbs_server start > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pbs_sched start > > The /etc/rc.conf file correctly has following entries : > > pbs_mom_enable="YES" > pbs_server_enable="YES" > pbs_sched_enable="YES" > > When I added "rc_debug="YES", I see that it's not processing any of pbs > related process. I cannot reproduce this problem on a fresh install of 7.0 with the latest version of torque. Do you see any clues in /var/log/messages? On my system, with rc_debug="YES" in /etc/rc.conf (with some truncation to allow for wrapping): % awk '/DEBUG/ && /pbs/ && /check/' /var/log/messages beast root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: pbs_server_enable is set to YES. beast root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: pbs_sched_enable is set to YES. beast root: /etc/rc: DEBUG: checkyesno: pbs_mom_enable is set to YES. The pbs_* lines are processed at boot. -- Sahil Tandon _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 04:56:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2E51065679 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 04:56:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379638FC15 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 04:56:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m4U4ugUJ048567; Thu, 29 May 2008 21:56:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Gary Kline" Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:57:54 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <20080529215053.GB62524@thought.org> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Thu, 29 May 2008 21:56:43 -0700 (PDT) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: RE: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 04:56:44 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gary Kline > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:51 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. > > > you probably didn't start with the earlier markup. back then, > '93-4, there was
,

, , and . i wrote a 2.2K-line > program to handle "hi" -> ``hi'' and a couple other things. > the code has evolved, of course, but still works. > Not the case. I use vi myself and I eschew background gifs and such. Web pages that I create are black text on a white back ground interspersed with images when needed. Period. No CSS no frames, no nothing. If the content I put up isn't worth reading then no amount of formatting, font specification, animated images, and so forth is going to get people to look at it, is my feeling. Looking at your site, it's clear your not a true minimalist. Thus, my recommendation to not even try. Web page design has got so complex that you basically have to do it full time to made a page that looks professional. If your going to create pages, then a true minimalist page is just as functional and just as good as an amateur attempt. Meaning, both it and the amateur page will look like crap, but people aren't there for the looks they are there for the information, and they won't care. Naturally, I am perfectly aware too many people assume that if the page is unformatted that the content must be crap. So, for commercial sites that I am involved in that a lot of eyeballs look at, I don't code those. I have my wife code them - who IS an HTML designer. Watching her work I can see how much work is involved in making a page look professional. (she uses homesite, which is a commercial html editor, it is not a wysiwyg like dreamweaver) I know that if I just do the usual job that an amateur does, it's like a little kid riding a plastic horse at the grocery store and pretending he's a cowboy. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 05:06:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0D1106567B for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 05:06:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59818FC1E for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 05:06:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m4U56ini048667; Thu, 29 May 2008 22:06:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Gary Kline" Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 22:07:56 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <20080529221421.GD62524@thought.org> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Thu, 29 May 2008 22:06:45 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Kevin Downey , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: RE: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 05:06:47 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Kline [mailto:kline@thought.org] > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 3:14 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Kevin Downey; FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. > > > > Chill down a bit, okay? first, (as the OP), i did not know > thaat there was *this** great a disparity in thee rendering > between classes of browsers. i used to stick pretty close > to the w3.org (or whatever it was). i didn't think the > difference extended to how the

stuff was parsed. > Gary, the problem is that the majority of people out there use IE, most IE7, but still a lot of IE6, and a few deihards IE5. Then there are the older versions of Safari on the Mac - there's still a lot of Mac's around that are running 10.2 believe it or not, and those came with MS IE for the Mac which -really- munges some pages. And Safari for Windows - which is a bit different than Safari on the Mac. And then there are all the Unix browsers. There are some test programs that can help. But the validators can tell you your code is right and it still will display differently in some of the browsers. The only way to do it is to do what the pros do - which is have all the different systems available and load their pages in those browsers. Telling people "my site is fine your browser is fucked, get a better one" is the mark of an amateur who is also being extremely presumptive. It's the old "do it my way or fuck off" This is what Microsoft tells people - and most FreeBSDers and Linux people claim they are on the moral high ground because they aren't forcing their stuff down people's throats - that is, until they create a webpage and then they have no problem forcing software down people's throats to see it, I guess.... Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 05:31:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC72B1065674 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 05:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from smtp2.tls.net (smtp2.tls.net [65.196.224.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0448FC1E for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 05:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 84265 invoked from network); 30 May 2008 05:31:07 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.3 ppid: 84253, pid: 84261, t: 0.2306s scanners: attach: 1.2.3 clamav: 0.91.1/m:45/d:6125 spam: 3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on smtp-2.tls.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=20.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.2.1 Received: from 64-184-9-72.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.1.42?) (ldg%tls.net@64.184.9.72) by auth-smtp2.tls.net with ESMTPA; 30 May 2008 05:31:07 -0000 Message-ID: <483F9115.4010903@pixelhammer.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 01:31:01 -0400 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 05:31:08 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gary Kline >> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:51 PM >> To: Ted Mittelstaedt >> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List >> Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. >> >> >> you probably didn't start with the earlier markup. back then, >> '93-4, there was
,

, , and . i wrote a 2.2K-line >> program to handle "hi" -> ``hi'' and a couple other things. >> the code has evolved, of course, but still works. >> > > Not the case. I use vi myself and I eschew background gifs and > such. Web pages that I create are black text on a white back > ground interspersed with images when needed. Period. No CSS no frames, no > nothing. If the content I put up isn't worth reading > then no amount of formatting, font specification, animated > images, and so forth is going to get people to look at it, > is my feeling. I nearly spit coffee on my keyboard! I agree with you 100%. When we all did HTML with BBedit and Textpad, people like Black, Tog, and Nielsen kept everyone designing websites to best serve the content. Now it is all about the sizzle, but there is rarely a steak. DAve -- In 50 years, our descendants will look back on the early years of the internet, and much like we now look back on men with rockets on their back and feathers glued to their arms, marvel that we had the intelligence to wipe the drool from our chins. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 05:38:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28167106566B for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 05:38:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from entwistle.sonicboom.org (entwistle.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4CF68FC19 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 05:38:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.sonicboom.org [127.0.0.1]) by entwistle.sonicboom.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4U5c4IC036937 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 22:38:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Message-ID: <483F92BA.4080208@brianwhalen.net> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 22:38:02 -0700 From: Brian User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4a89d1190805290147g7ced55bdy11c44b71a8d2d788@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4a89d1190805290147g7ced55bdy11c44b71a8d2d788@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Renaming "root" to "homer"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 05:38:05 -0000 > Sorry, forgot to send this to the mailing list as well: > > Not recommended. > > Instead edit your sshd_config file and change the option PermitRootLogin to > "no". > > Christian Zachariasen > Isnt this the Freebsd default anyway, that root cannot login remotely anyway, unlike that penguin OS? SSH in remotely as a non root user that is in the wheel group and then su to root. Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 07:08:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 382E01065670 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 07:08:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrizach@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B008FC23 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 07:08:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrizach@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so4523637rvf.43 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=u6D3afuLDq5KEVwn/gNPPNMRPjxldNOzLBEYQLIL2xg=; b=XyJZV9+TiEkTNIX4ozKW5xki6qch244LMzXELCEdVnx0ZkQVGR+rr4Yf2juuH2M28042Kql7OLHNcQRXm9HVhfbkSnFpGIpPR8Xu/I4CJuLIFZNgIw2kbodnzBtgOhb6P0zVNLGHBHbblae/LKVLx0Tb0hLDK88brY8e4xc0THw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hry8b4OAbs1jTFEpH+Z3UsNNv7EXlh948MxgizqR7XHHCorywGmVkE8CJjJcOqm20zb6leSUfp0+oX36KU8bo7OICuMpw4VGHW3+PdWKzuKp7OARAiS4Fu9z+63jdaicLHKDaKKMJk/DiXLlEkrDSPdSaS/+HsQ9GXeFy2KKgj4= Received: by 10.140.157.5 with SMTP id f5mr915358rve.153.1212131335690; Fri, 30 May 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.142.18 with HTTP; Fri, 30 May 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4a89d1190805300008u26d51159s4a62051c47de1797@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:08:55 +0200 From: "Christian Zachariasen" To: Brian , "FreeBSD Mailing Lists" In-Reply-To: <483F92BA.4080208@brianwhalen.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4a89d1190805290147g7ced55bdy11c44b71a8d2d788@mail.gmail.com> <483F92BA.4080208@brianwhalen.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Renaming "root" to "homer"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 07:08:56 -0000 On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 7:38 AM, Brian wrote: > > Sorry, forgot to send this to the mailing list as well: >> >> Not recommended. >> >> Instead edit your sshd_config file and change the option PermitRootLogin >> to >> "no". >> >> Christian Zachariasen >> >> > Isnt this the Freebsd default anyway, that root cannot login remotely > anyway, unlike that penguin OS? SSH in remotely as a non root user that is > in the wheel group and then su to root. > > Brian > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I think you're right, I was just assuming that he had the setting set to "Yes" since he wanted to rename root to homer in order to stop these attacks. Christian Zachariasen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 07:59:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F4D1065679 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 07:59:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhfoo-ml@extracktor.com) Received: from mail.nexlabs.com (www.nexlabs.com [210.193.32.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25678FC25 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 07:59:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhfoo-ml@extracktor.com) Received: (qmail 72553 invoked from network); 30 May 2008 07:25:50 -0000 Received: from 13.203-123-20.1500adsl.qala.com.sg (HELO ?192.168.1.175?) (jhfoo@nexlabs.com@203.123.20.13) by www.nexlabs.com with SMTP; 30 May 2008 07:25:50 -0000 Message-ID: <483FAD90.6010101@extracktor.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:32:32 +0800 From: Foo JH User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> In-Reply-To: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 07:59:19 -0000 I like Qmail. It's not overly difficult to configure, and it's extensible. Patrick Baldwin wrote: > Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my > mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm > thinking FreeBSD might be the best choice of OS for the replacement. > > However, it's been some time since I looked into options for mail > servers. I'm interested in both suggestions for hardware and mail > servers that would make for the best FreeBSD based mail server. > > I've only got about two dozen users, though they are all very heavy > users of email. I'm using IMAP, and I'd like to continue to do so. > > Finally, we have quite a few aliases I'd want to port over to a > new server. > > Thanks, > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 09:03:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1DB3106566B for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 09:03:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lc-words.com) Received: from relay.lc-words.com (relay.lc-words.com [62.121.130.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7779A8FC23 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 09:03:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lc-words.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7F9C9428 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 11:03:38 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=lc-words.com; s=mainlcwords; t=1212138218; bh=0jEnB2SOe294TgBEg/ka9lSwH5qh8dlDOig /RW4JVoc=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=SNQdmpeyprSBUAZRK8i5MbHW 1u3Gin7Xh+Vq00caQ11+NzrOMXFUtehE0jgYdAk1DMlt0x/wrBBCG+k4kQlYaHrKT1c Z92ylklhEMCnItFb57wdNJN9vMZCJDbU7m83/0ZIKpdT/wMvdLc9Usc6NidIrjElZNG VsDl2QDVm51wQ= Received: from relay.lc-words.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay.lc-words.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27545-01 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 11:03:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cxw210.internetdsl.tpnet.pl [83.19.156.210]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: z.szalbot@lc-words.com) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EA968C9427 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 11:03:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <483FC2E5.5040706@lc-words.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:03:33 +0200 From: Zbigniew Szalbot User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard Subject: disallow remote root / allow remote root by key X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: z.szalbot@lc-words.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:03:40 -0000 Hello, I wonder if it is possible and if so how to go about the following. Server - Remote root login is disallowed but I need to fetch snaphosts produced by rsnapshot and for this I need remote root access. Backup machine on a dynamic IP - connects to server using key-based authentication. Can this machine (and only this machine) log in remotely as root? Is there a better way of handling this? Thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.lc-words.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 09:19:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5DF106564A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 09:19:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75FEA8FC1C for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 09:19:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A1D0FD06A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 11:20:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD06FD061 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 11:20:01 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <483FC68E.2030603@webrz.net> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:19:10 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Subject: Delayed cronjobs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:19:18 -0000 Let's say my system has been down for one day. Is it possible to automatically (re)start cronjobs on system startup that should have been run the day before? -- Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 09:20:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C092106564A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 09:20:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC19D8FC2A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 09:20:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m4U9KCCi049982; Fri, 30 May 2008 02:20:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "DAve" , "FreeBSD Mailing List" Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 02:21:15 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <483F9115.4010903@pixelhammer.com> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Fri, 30 May 2008 02:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: RE: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:20:14 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of DAve > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:31 PM > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. > > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gary Kline > >> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:51 PM > >> To: Ted Mittelstaedt > >> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List > >> Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. > >> > >> > >> you probably didn't start with the earlier markup. back then, > >> '93-4, there was
,

, , and . i wrote a 2.2K-line > >> program to handle "hi" -> ``hi'' and a couple other things. > >> the code has evolved, of course, but still works. > >> > > > > Not the case. I use vi myself and I eschew background gifs and > > such. Web pages that I create are black text on a white back > > ground interspersed with images when needed. Period. No CSS > no frames, no > > nothing. If the content I put up isn't worth reading > > then no amount of formatting, font specification, animated > > images, and so forth is going to get people to look at it, > > is my feeling. > > I nearly spit coffee on my keyboard! I agree with you 100%. When we all > did HTML with BBedit and Textpad, people like Black, Tog, and Nielsen > kept everyone designing websites to best serve the content. Now it is > all about the sizzle, but there is rarely a steak. > Think about the generation we went to High School with. This is the generation that's signature movies were Risky Business, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, etc. Listening to Prince and Michael Jackson. Who's signature book was Madonna's SEX. These are the people who a decade later were buying SUV's and drinking coffee out of a Folgers can, who voted in George Bush, and who today are upside down on their ARM-financed homes. These are the consumers of the websites on the Internet today. No wonder most of the sites suck. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 09:41:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2741065680 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 09:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lc-words.com) Received: from relay.lc-words.com (relay.lc-words.com [62.121.130.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA378FC33 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 09:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lc-words.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098B8C9424 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 11:41:56 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=lc-words.com; s=mainlcwords; t=1212140516; bh=ctb2wpd6otbQCUICSUI5HxxSWDN0cE4OpvE 5Aik9stk=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:MIME-Version:To:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Z cj9SwCsa9BFDhyq3Fx2DVV4A4tQyXYN0ETe/FpIQrO5XlPL9McrG7cxaYcI1ElgOGAv wJrRmO2JfEk8ISWs8oK8sadkXfT8dj4DVNVTsqMC//sVkGfhTk/qvwuUTtKBDu/vQgV r65GOf280cUvNBHSU1ZWVuoKNYWKrGTYa/2c= Received: from relay.lc-words.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay.lc-words.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27578-05 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 11:41:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cxw210.internetdsl.tpnet.pl [83.19.156.210]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: z.szalbot@lc-words.com) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A443AC941B for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 11:41:55 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <483FCBDF.8020300@lc-words.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:41:51 +0200 From: Zbigniew Szalbot User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483FC2E5.5040706@lc-words.com> <991123400805300233t60e2b067v1a1bc431702f2387@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <991123400805300233t60e2b067v1a1bc431702f2387@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard Subject: Re: disallow remote root / allow remote root by key X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: z.szalbot@lc-words.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:41:57 -0000 Odhiambo Washington: > rsync from the backup machine. > Can't you modify the rsnapshot code to make the permissions on the files I don't think I can. :) > it creates to be accessible by a special group, and create a user in > this group which you can then use to login from the backup machine? > Just an idea. Besides, I think the point is that permissions/owners are all preserved so that when you need to restore, you don't have to wonder about changing uid/gid. Thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.lc-words.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 09:55:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1685F106564A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 09:55:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from fhw-relay07.plus.net (fhw-relay07.plus.net [212.159.14.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28ED8FC15 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 09:55:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=milibyte.co.uk) by fhw-relay07.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1K21Kd-0007FF-Qa; Fri, 30 May 2008 10:55:32 +0100 Received: by milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K21Kd-0000pv-6t; Fri, 30 May 2008 10:55:31 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, z.szalbot@lc-words.com Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 10:55:30 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <483FC2E5.5040706@lc-words.com> In-Reply-To: <483FC2E5.5040706@lc-words.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200805301055.31048.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: d18b19786f911ce81ea8094f37d27fd2 Cc: Subject: Re: disallow remote root / allow remote root by key X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:55:35 -0000 On Friday 30 May 2008, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Server - Remote root login is disallowed but I need to fetch > snaphosts produced by rsnapshot and for this I need remote root > access. Backup machine on a dynamic IP - connects to server using > key-based authentication. Can this machine (and only this machine) > log in remotely as root? Yes, on the remote server set PermitRootLogin to "without-password" instead of "no" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config and append your your public key from the remote machine into /root/.ssh/authorized_keys. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 10:03:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3752106566B for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 10:03:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from mail.irbisnet.ru (mail.irbisnet.ru [194.186.18.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63DAF8FC12 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 10:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.0.23] (igw.irbisnet.ru [194.186.18.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.irbisnet.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4U9quOA087156 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 30 May 2008 13:52:57 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Message-ID: <483FCE83.2010107@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 13:53:07 +0400 From: Yuri Pankov User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: z.szalbot@lc-words.com References: <483FC2E5.5040706@lc-words.com> In-Reply-To: <483FC2E5.5040706@lc-words.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disallow remote root / allow remote root by key X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 10:03:36 -0000 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Hello, > > I wonder if it is possible and if so how to go about the following. > > Server - Remote root login is disallowed but I need to fetch snaphosts > produced by rsnapshot and for this I need remote root access. > Backup machine on a dynamic IP - connects to server using key-based As user, I guess? > authentication. Can this machine (and only this machine) log in remotely Check sshd_config(5) for PermitRootLogin "without-password" keyword (I hope I understood you correctly). > as root? > > Is there a better way of handling this? > > Thanks! > HTH, Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 10:04:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5474106564A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 10:04:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.rudolph@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682598FC0C for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 10:04:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.rudolph@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so101747fgb.35 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 03:04:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=uucba/EXEwFpq2hY+PfoM78giuQDB/dfMHTvPXEjVHw=; b=ml9QP0Heu6ZPhNOCyOGaTzzC1JmRQ8ZqIR6sFOphDT3nSU6jAZcuq3h3DLfaCQ6sX/jShAsKRcO/uBj6gzn0UNWCm/0R1lrMg8PxPg6r9XV69J2kEp4FdPtn42AARXcFoTBmztReqVvRKvfBHnejSvQBidHYjabvIcbf/5MLMQM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=e/ixTX/m60WM6zwMg+pxR8h4G95uufc00p3UuF1mROpkCRGUbt2gr/q37FnNsoWkoTL89k/WCiFHN7kzo6GXcCmY3ECYV/bH4lY0HoQnLDjj+ZO9XMBkmT8eAGHlB7J4hoFDVDiyNoTKhW//zABjERWFTd7anh8kWDbFy0Atdc4= Received: by 10.86.89.1 with SMTP id m1mr4361593fgb.20.1212140364469; Fri, 30 May 2008 02:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thinkpad ( [79.209.192.216]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l12sm355595fgb.8.2008.05.30.02.39.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 30 May 2008 02:39:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Rudolph To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:39:19 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <483FC68E.2030603@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: <483FC68E.2030603@webrz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200805301139.19943.michael.rudolph@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Delayed cronjobs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 10:04:19 -0000 On Friday 30 May 2008 11:19:10 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > Let's say my system has been down for one day. Is it possible to > automatically (re)start cronjobs on system startup that should have > been run the day before? > > -- Jos > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hello Jos, you might want to have a look at anacron(8). =46rom its man page: Anacron can be used to execute commands periodically, with a frequency=20 specified in days. Unlike cron(8), it does not assume that the machine=20 is running continuously. Hence, it can be used on machines that aren't=20 running 24 hours a day, to control daily, weekly, and monthly jobs that=20 are usually controlled by cron. I hope that helps. michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 10:12:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE7B0106567A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 10:12:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A413E8FC29 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 10:12:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56861FD06A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 12:13:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E701FD061 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 12:13:33 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <483FD31A.1020909@webrz.net> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 12:12:42 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483FC68E.2030603@webrz.net> <200805301139.19943.michael.rudolph@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200805301139.19943.michael.rudolph@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Subject: Re: Delayed cronjobs [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 10:12:45 -0000 Hi Michael, Thanks for sharing, just what I needed! -- Jos Michael Rudolph wrote: > you might want to have a look at anacron(8). > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 10:44:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592D51065671 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 10:44:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73F88FC14 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 10:44:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from prawn.unsane.co.uk (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m4UAhUMu087175 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 11:43:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <483FDA77.7090202@unsane.co.uk> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:44:07 +0100 From: Vince Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080514) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freebsd Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: i386 jail on amd64 7-stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 10:44:10 -0000 Hi all, I've managed to get the i386 jail to start by nullfs mounts of /libexec and /usr/lib32 as per the instructions here [http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2008-03/msg02216.html] (It wouldnt start before, complaining about missing libs even though I had done a full make world/installworld/distribution into the jaildir.) However this means that I'm now missing libkrb5.so.9 and possibly others which means I cant use the base sshd (and probably more.) Is there something basic I have missed or is this not expected to work? Thanks, Vince From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 11:43:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D021065671 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 11:43:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A3D38FC14 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 11:43:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from prawn.unsane.co.uk (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m4UBgtao087911 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 12:42:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <483FE863.4070007@unsane.co.uk> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 12:43:31 +0100 From: Vince Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080514) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freebsd Questions References: <483FDA77.7090202@unsane.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <483FDA77.7090202@unsane.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: i386 jail on amd64 7-stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:43:37 -0000 Vince Hoffman wrote: > Hi all, > I've managed to get the i386 jail to start by nullfs mounts of /libexec > and /usr/lib32 as per the instructions here > [http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2008-03/msg02216.html] > (It wouldnt start before, complaining about missing libs even though I > had done a full make world/installworld/distribution into the jaildir.) > > However this means that I'm now missing libkrb5.so.9 and possibly others > which means I cant use the base sshd (and probably more.) > Is there something basic I have missed or is this not expected to work? > Sorry to reply to myself but... I was being a muppet. rather than the nullfs mounts, I just needed to cd $jaildir/libexec ln -s ld-elf.so.1 ld-elf32.so.1 and now it works :) teach me to rely on random mailing list posts and not just thinking it though. ;) Vince > > Thanks, > Vince > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 11:52:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092A7106566B for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 11:52:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lc-words.com) Received: from relay.lc-words.com (relay.lc-words.com [62.121.130.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF90E8FC16 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 11:52:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lc-words.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCFB5C9427; Fri, 30 May 2008 13:52:27 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=lc-words.com; s=mainlcwords; t=1212148347; bh=i3Dpll/viDz+WpgKpVtZw+8UcDQ9FXp8RcZ Vekn+vFQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:MIME-Version:To:CC: Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=EAonHrSUpu4PRGyk3c+NBhv0hLa9f+LcfMdY8 K8uxz7FGnuwctnsdL5TrBMvabmgCdE9DnhOF0N6VG0uoOiRn7MmGSxFWHQpMksVLxh5 vQln7Xj29oRBH+/F5jHhLoQYmVgxLZaOig+PpXLujNmj9ig6dOuWex2tjFpChjQc5wE = Received: from relay.lc-words.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay.lc-words.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 38567-05; Fri, 30 May 2008 13:52:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cxw210.internetdsl.tpnet.pl [83.19.156.210]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: z.szalbot@lc-words.com) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 71FD5C9423; Fri, 30 May 2008 13:52:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <483FEA75.7040902@lc-words.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 13:52:21 +0200 From: Zbigniew Szalbot User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Clarke References: <483FC2E5.5040706@lc-words.com> <200805301055.31048.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200805301055.31048.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disallow remote root / allow remote root by key X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: z.szalbot@lc-words.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:52:30 -0000 Hello, Mike Clarke: > On Friday 30 May 2008, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > >> Server - Remote root login is disallowed but I need to fetch >> snaphosts produced by rsnapshot and for this I need remote root >> access. Backup machine on a dynamic IP - connects to server using >> key-based authentication. Can this machine (and only this machine) >> log in remotely as root? > > Yes, on the remote server set PermitRootLogin to "without-password" > instead of "no" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config and append your your public key > from the remote machine into /root/.ssh/authorized_keys. Thank you for this advice! Each time I am surprised how flexible this system is and how helpful its users are! Regards, -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.lc-words.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 12:34:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F38106566C for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 12:34:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60B068FC1C for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 12:34:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([193.31.10.34]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 30 May 2008 14:38:09 +0200 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id m4UCYqeO009873; Fri, 30 May 2008 14:34:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 14:34:52 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Manolis Kiagias , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <20080530123452.GA9637@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <972994690801011020u60ed0a0et6d8356cdb1f6f974@mail.gmail.com> <20080102141419.GB61289@sandvine.com> <20080521143210.GA70289@rebelion.Sisis.de> <4834516F.1010002@otenet.gr> <20080523092901.GA8878@rebelion.Sisis.de> <483699DE.6080907@otenet.gr> <20080527141644.GA9912@rebelion.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20080527141644.GA9912@rebelion.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 May 2008 12:38:10.0022 (UTC) FILETIME=[0497C060:01C8C252] Cc: Subject: Re: Asus eee (was Re: G4 Quicksilver as Web Server?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 12:34:56 -0000 El día Tuesday, May 27, 2008 a las 04:16:44PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: > El día Friday, May 23, 2008 a las 01:18:06PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió: > > > Yes, I am already planning to upgrade :) > > At this time, it is not available in Greece (though I have spotted a few > > on ebay). > > Even more important than the 20Gb SSD is the 9 inch display with a > > resolution of 1024x600. > > 800x480 is really small for anything more other than taking notes. > > Maybe you know this page, Manolis: http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/05/04/eeeusercom-eeepc-900-in-depth-review/ it has a detailed technical report about all items of which the 900 20GB model is made of; a dealer in CH will get next week the original US version: http://www.stegcomputer.ch/details.asp?prodid=asu-e900-w take care, there is an issue about the battery having only 4400 mAh (because of some fire in an ASUS supplier) while the original model have had a 5800 mAh battery; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ «...una sola vez, que es cuanto basta si se trata de verdades definitivas.» «...only once, which is enough if it has todo with definite truth.» José Saramago, Historia del Cerca de Lisboa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 12:52:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92008106566B for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 12:52:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16AD48FC1B for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 12:52:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from joshua.freebsdgr.org (athedsl-292159.home.otenet.gr [85.73.188.221]) (authenticated bits=0) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4UCqHWw029766; Fri, 30 May 2008 15:52:17 +0300 Message-ID: <483FF881.5060504@otenet.gr> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:52:17 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080324) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz References: <972994690801011020u60ed0a0et6d8356cdb1f6f974@mail.gmail.com> <20080102141419.GB61289@sandvine.com> <20080521143210.GA70289@rebelion.Sisis.de> <4834516F.1010002@otenet.gr> <20080523092901.GA8878@rebelion.Sisis.de> <483699DE.6080907@otenet.gr> <20080527141644.GA9912@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080530123452.GA9637@rebelion.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20080530123452.GA9637@rebelion.Sisis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Asus eee (was Re: G4 Quicksilver as Web Server?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 12:52:20 -0000 Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Tuesday, May 27, 2008 a las 04:16:44PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: > > >> El día Friday, May 23, 2008 a las 01:18:06PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió: >> >> >>> Yes, I am already planning to upgrade :) >>> At this time, it is not available in Greece (though I have spotted a few >>> on ebay). >>> Even more important than the 20Gb SSD is the 9 inch display with a >>> resolution of 1024x600. >>> 800x480 is really small for anything more other than taking notes. >>> >>> > > Maybe you know this page, Manolis: > > http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/05/04/eeeusercom-eeepc-900-in-depth-review/ > > it has a detailed technical report about all items of which the 900 20GB > model is made of; > Ah, nice! Thanks for the link. It will be a good read. > a dealer in CH will get next week the original US version: > http://www.stegcomputer.ch/details.asp?prodid=asu-e900-w > There are a few sold on ebay. I believe this model will also appear in Greek eshops soon. > take care, there is an issue about the battery having only 4400 mAh > (because of some fire in an ASUS supplier) while the original model have > had a 5800 mAh battery; > > matthias > I will wait then. I prefer to get a model with a larger battery. The one I have now, lasts more or less 2 - 2.30 hours and I believe it has the same 4400mAh battery. The larger screen and SSD will probably make this even less on the 900. Unlike larger laptops, I really like to work the eee on battery only. In fact having to carry only this small laptop instead of all the usual accessories is a big plus to me. On a side note, I am thinking of writing a complete article about installing FreeBSD 7.0 on the eeepc, including customizations and optimizations, different installations methods, with links to download ready-built customized kernels etc. Don't know whether it will have any real audience though ;) Most people run some Linux distro on it or even (gasp) Windows... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 13:08:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D0B1065677 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 13:08:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8D38FC20 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 13:08:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j40so2327183rnf.12 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 06:08:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=HSBQ9WNUzAJHcseASR2PGU/D5sBJm+Z6RDTml1EFTyw=; b=Mq4omi6jyrp4Ost0N6uNsV24Cu+0eDIhKwMsa/zC6dwJA+yC9Ja6fBbINNLUuCNdeJ+6YSVWDgx9f84X7o5y1IKQGLpIee+yniUoCF9X1bQbjz1OsLU/wVu34D14FYGE9vl5kN2gxRXnwQsyydiZgrU78aWKgc9cvYxpuPhyeaA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=P25CHjSJYA9ZCHPAbm8LiTn7EcSQ7/IoEUj3p25ZeBZDrs64SOA4vzj7ao2yXa7s8rq6GgSLXuop4LMrp8WtymvWyiXJEDcPqTsGkaZeTMe8yysSTI37SESF9o5xggeYFISnznDbp17/cQDyntr4kmcOzb4g+rn7RXcdOOC001Q= Received: by 10.114.15.1 with SMTP id 1mr6007809wao.184.1212152904620; Fri, 30 May 2008 06:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.150.14 with HTTP; Fri, 30 May 2008 06:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20805300608s13ec0fa7x7034f1a89ea07c46@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:08:24 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Best solution - mobile wifi hotspot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 13:08:30 -0000 My dad makes instruments and goes to a lot of festivals. They are typically in the middle of nowhere, without internet. Many vendors still bring notebooks as they provide quick & easy access to many things, but there is no internet. For credit cards, many use their cell phones to make the transaction. My dad wants to get a satellite connection (pure sattelite, no phone), and set up something to offer a wireless hotspot. - Some shows will just pay a flat fee, and have the hotspot open. - Some shows won't pay a fee, and so he'll want to charge to recover some of the cost. For the open hotspots, a simple wireless router will do. For the charge hotspots, we'd want something a little more flexible. My first thought was 'FreeBSD can do that!'. The trick is that we will be using battery power most of the time. Low power is the key. I'm thinknig sub-20W max power drain worst case, SUB 10-15W is ideal. With that background info, my questions are: 1) Is building a low power computer based on FreeBSD the right way to go? Or would you all recommend something else? What? 2) Does anyone have experience with the GeodeNX or VIA C7 boards available on NewEgg? Heads ups and pointers? 3) Does anyone have experiences with these and a given wireless adaptor, How good/bad is/was it? Thanks, -Jim Stapleton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 13:11:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C09106566C for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 13:11:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D67E8FC0A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 13:11:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-0000136800000330-f5-483ffd2a7362 Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 30 May 2008 09:12:09 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:10:48 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Looking for message queue documentation Thread-Index: AcjCVpPWjFLyEtgUReaMhLUTvqgsMw== From: "Bob McConnell" To: X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Looking for message queue documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 13:11:44 -0000 I see in the release notes for 7.0 that experimental support for POSIX message queues has been added. Where can I find information on what functions are available and how they differ from the POSIX descriptions? I would like to use them for inter-thread message passing. Thank you, Bob McConnell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 14:48:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BAE11065679 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 14:48:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from mho-01-bos.mailhop.org (mho-01-bos.mailhop.org [63.208.196.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1228FC19 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 14:48:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from vdsl-151-118-132-54.dnvr.qwest.net ([151.118.132.54] helo=mail.mikestammer.com) by mho-01-bos.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K25tz-000Lok-C6; Fri, 30 May 2008 14:48:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0469FB87C; Fri, 30 May 2008 08:48:13 -0600 (MDT) X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 151.118.132.54 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX192KTMbkvAVR3AZp4sFq+h6gRuGBUfWtzs= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mikestammer.com Received: from mail.mikestammer.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gondolin.middleearth.mikestammer.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T+3FgLr6kekW; Fri, 30 May 2008 08:48:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.11.6] (unknown [128.241.109.75]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eric) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3710EB87B; Fri, 30 May 2008 08:48:11 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <484013A7.6020507@mikestammer.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 08:48:07 -0600 From: Eric Zimmerman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Foo JH References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> <483FAD90.6010101@extracktor.com> In-Reply-To: <483FAD90.6010101@extracktor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 14:48:20 -0000 Foo JH wrote: > I like Qmail. It's not overly difficult to configure, and it's extensible. > and requires 400 patches to do basic things =( heres some interesting reading about qmail... http://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/~ma/qmail-bugs.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 14:49:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76EA106564A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 14:49:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DWassman@etgroup.net) Received: from mail3.etgroup.net (mail3.etgroup.net [66.195.99.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE508FC1B for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 14:49:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DWassman@etgroup.net) Received: from mail2.etgroup.net (66.195.99.231) by etg6.etg.local (66.195.99.250) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.240.5; Fri, 30 May 2008 09:39:18 -0500 Received: from mail.etgroup.net ([66.195.99.210]) by mail2.etgroup.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 30 May 2008 09:39:18 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:38:14 -0500 Message-ID: <4EFE19E52F4F844D997F24D759C4A23B03CADF74@etg2.etg.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Growfs and GConcat Thread-Index: AcjCYsqnCk+R1rRERKWSU5tmxSRYmA== From: David Wassman To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 May 2008 14:39:18.0064 (UTC) FILETIME=[F0AEF300:01C8C262] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Growfs and GConcat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 14:49:35 -0000 All, =20 I am running 7.0-Release and am trying to add an additional disk to a gconcat and expand the ufs onto it. The concat works fine but when I run growfs I get an error "We are not growing".=20 =20 A couple of things about the setup: 1) 16-hotswap SAS drive bays only 8 contain drives. So figuring this out will help with future expansions 2) Both consumers are geli encrypted. This is not an option. We are a financial institution and encryption of data is required. This setup did work in simulations and expanded with growfs fine. 3) Both consumers run on independent RAID 10 arrays 4) Existing consumer is a slice on the first array. New consumer is the whole disks. Both are not equal size but I thought gconcat does not care. =20 Results: # gconcat stop data1 # gconcat label data1 /dev/mfid0s3.eli /dev/mfid1.eli # growfs /dev/concat/data1 growfs: we are not growing (59231653->16315060) =20 Any ideas? =20 Thanks, =20 David Wassman, MCP Net+ IT Network Administrator Davis, Monk & Company (800) 344-5034 (352) 372-6300 (352) 375-1583 FAX The information contained in this electronic message is legally privileged and confidential under applicable law, and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Davis, Monk & Company (352) 372-6300 and delete this communication immediately without reading it, making any copies of it or distributing it. =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 14:52:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1843E106564A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 14:52:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BE48FC1B for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 14:52:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so4700056rvf.43 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 07:52:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=EOyt+ie4gPxq4gtASHA5vuD8aWZBvue2rXwJXlNSusQ=; b=DyEwaq73HZpm9Tmh7sRu7YT4xyJx2Lp1YbuRNX5Wfo5p6Xglti1GXkt3s+dNo2lZxq2DyJoPpHLCcNOlkPKwnSdc/8ZHiS5/Rks8bsT9Id2XuXDs5dvUtNjBArXKPLwCi5FcCbdZb0ko3XUEkNvxvKaEPuBYc2t9W3s7Xws7TxY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=vpNG+vGNV23OMGUQgcmTyhY7FXff+EpYB7r7Rjshr1f8GI6fdG8l+a/xgF6OLE36cxwAotFutVrA405PbayoxCeMIo37f2/WhxLMHVPCdWXQ/5B1uhUXuXTY8ngVLZnW7/u7Ov+RYVW+o+fJY5NIW4yqo67stMYRSL2YCw/xamg= Received: by 10.140.164.6 with SMTP id m6mr3077730rve.208.1212159151816; Fri, 30 May 2008 07:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.248.15 with HTTP; Fri, 30 May 2008 07:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54db43990805300752n413dd879j69c320c8012b8c5e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 10:52:31 -0400 From: "Bob Johnson" To: "Gary Kline" In-Reply-To: <20080530032001.GG62524@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> <54db43990805291514l52140608le23b39a760a64a0c@mail.gmail.com> <20080530032001.GG62524@thought.org> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 14:52:33 -0000 On 5/29/08, Gary Kline wrote: > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 06:14:26PM -0400, Bob Johnson wrote: >> On 5/29/08, Gary Kline wrote: >> > Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page >> > was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black >> [...] >> > I'd be much obliged for any help here. >> > >> > >> >> Konqueror says that the comment that reads >> >> >> [...] > > (also, this may explain why sometimes my comments bombbed during > testing. i thought " was *legal*. *mumble::censored*) > Yeah, that's a common error. It would make sense, and I have no clue why comment tags aren't symmetric in HTML. But the bizzare thing is that early in the days of web browsers, rather than just accept that as legal so broken code would render correctly, the browser authors decided to fix the problem by accepting end-of-line as a comment terminator, which very distinctly violates the standard. So there are a lot of web pages out there that won't render correctly on standards-compliant browsers. I suspect that using an editor that _correctly_ highlights HTML code would solve most of your problems. To me, a content management system only makes sense for a site that is either large, or has multiple authors. If you update your site frequently, a WYSIWYG HTML editor would be helpful and should have a very small learning curve. I think others have already suggested a few. I took a brief look at your site, and it appears that right now you are pretty much using it as a blog. If the format works for you, a site like http://www.tumblr.com/help might be easier than maintaining your own. The nice thing about tumblr is that you don't have to install anything on your own system to use it. - Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 14:53:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0862110656AC for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 14:53:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from justinjereza@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73288FC1B for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 14:53:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from justinjereza@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so154474ana.13 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 07:53:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=f2jA684yZexd2BRbzD39EpNSkNkLvASmDSfzV7YDAvw=; b=A9aLnW53rbCzGQenZxRFC9Thg83xXGVI+9UWeDXh4/2O74HHDCXFMUu+5NzO5uNCqHwR7I1mAPgT2pO5C7HauNtXXIJJbwsV11cuVHnNEbNLsrk7E+5AnquPS/jg7SVhDNnC8A8JjVZDqp29DOiDXmkrhHDmgsI05aKFmI5hsSA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LECHmRorX0tq8exV6NkNszbN3gywu06SuoMxGSaCMnOJtTBLo9ubdbKd4WXdT0HlC1MI/eliWLP0ci+zv32K3e/NccBs57sLvbAMoiBD3f0tH+sGi44msKD6rAc/q64eG8xayzCos1gl4xjxuhqRIG47g9X+EEL4AUjKpAczykY= Received: by 10.100.191.19 with SMTP id o19mr3703578anf.80.1212159213796; Fri, 30 May 2008 07:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.232.18 with HTTP; Fri, 30 May 2008 07:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53f591170805300753pd7ca496s1677ae3501c97758@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 22:53:33 +0800 From: "Justin Jereza" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0805271240g516561e8x72b215c5d87fc06@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6ae50c2d0805252340x5b8efc73lea4757b52c194351@mail.gmail.com> <483A5E4D.2090901@siseci.com> <6ae50c2d0805262236k5957976dx1238aad8e7f4f0be@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0805271240g516561e8x72b215c5d87fc06@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ipnat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 14:53:35 -0000 Uses pf instead but I know the following works: ### /etc/pf.conf ### nat on dc0 from fxp0:network to any -> (dc0) ### /etc/rc.conf ### pf_enable="YES" After editing the files, run '/etc/rc.d/pf start' From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 14:53:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4065F10656B3 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 14:53:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4A98FC1C for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 14:53:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m4UErWcr011464; Fri, 30 May 2008 16:53:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m4UErWlE011463; Fri, 30 May 2008 16:53:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 16:53:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200805301453.m4UErWlE011463@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, gilles.ganault@free.fr In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 30 May 2008 16:53:33 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Renaming "root" to "homer"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, gilles.ganault@free.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 14:53:36 -0000 Gilles wrote: > With all those scripts trying to connect to SSHd as "root", I was > wondering if it'd be OK to rename this account to eg. "homer", to act > as a first line of defense? > > Are there unknown consequences to doing something like that? Peope have already pointed out that it is a bad idea to allow remote root logins, so I won't repeat that. :-) But to answer your question: Renaming the "root" account will probably break quite a log of things, for example install scripts which often contain command like "chown root bin/whatever", or start/stop scripts for daemon processes that match for certain commands run by "root", and so on. So better don't do that. Many programs expect that there is an account called "root" with UID 0. Otherwise they will malfunction. > If not, is it done by just editing /etc/password with vi, or is there > a better way? No, editing /etc/passwd directly doesn't work. Instead, you should use the vipw(8) tool, which does several things: - It locks the master.passwd file so nobody else can edit it at the same time. - It opens the master.passwd file with vi (or a different editor if you have the environment variable EDITOR set). - Afterwards it checks the master.passwd file for correct syntax and consistency, to prevent accidental breakage. - It generates the passwd file (for compatibility only) and the pwd.db and spwd.db database files. - Finally the lock is released. Alternatively you can use the pw(8) command line tool to edit, add or delete accounts and groups. Please see the manual page for details. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "C++ is over-complicated nonsense. And Bjorn Shoestrap's book a danger to public health. I tried reading it once, I was in recovery for months." -- Cliff Sarginson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 15:03:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D43A106566C for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 15:03:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1AA8FC18 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 15:03:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4UF36SP002570; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:03:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m4UF36Ij002567; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:03:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:03:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, gilles.ganault@free.fr In-Reply-To: <200805301453.m4UErWlE011463@lurza.secnetix.de> Message-ID: <20080530170151.D2560@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200805301453.m4UErWlE011463@lurza.secnetix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: Renaming "root" to "homer"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:03:26 -0000 > Peope have already pointed out that it is a bad idea to > allow remote root logins, so I won't repeat that. :-) i like bad ideas :) except the worst idea - dumb generalization. > But to answer your question: Renaming the "root" account > will probably break quite a log of things, for example make 2 roots, root and homer in /etc/master.passwd just remember to type passwd root or passwd homer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 15:05:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CA2106566C for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 15:05:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFA78FC19 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 15:05:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m4UF5Bcx012044; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:05:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m4UF5Brl012043; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:05:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:05:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200805301505.m4UF5Brl012043@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com In-Reply-To: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 30 May 2008 17:05:11 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:05:13 -0000 Patrick Baldwin wrote: > Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my > mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm > thinking FreeBSD might be the best choice of OS for the replacement. > > However, it's been some time since I looked into options for mail > servers. I'm interested in both suggestions for hardware and mail > servers that would make for the best FreeBSD based mail server. > > I've only got about two dozen users, though they are all very heavy > users of email. I'm using IMAP, and I'd like to continue to do so. > > Finally, we have quite a few aliases I'd want to port over to a > new server. I also recommend dovecot. I'm using it for several years without a problem, and it was quite simple to setup. I'm using it with sendmail, though (not postfix), because I've been using sendmail for almost 20 years and haven't had a reason to switch. If you're already familiar with sendmail on Solaris, then I recommend you continue using sendmail on FreeBSD (it's the default MTA that comes with the base system). Having said that, Postfix _is_ a very good MTA, I'm using it at work. If you're willing to switch and invest a little bit of time learning something new, then Postfix is certainly a good choice. It's quite easy to install Postfix from the ports collection. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd C++: "an octopus made by nailing extra legs onto a dog" -- Steve Taylor, 1998 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 15:11:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804DA1065670 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 15:11:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrizach@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB6D8FC19 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 15:11:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrizach@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id p76so3053972pyb.10 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 08:11:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=4zsreCXjPzq1F4dBilbKQ9LvmhUMziDGjrlw05dF9og=; b=TbWyYxDpJh8dcQsv9s0INED12uPefzWZI3edDHmiVWYhwD68gqc9rK4vi2JZQJM1ZcfSmnJvukifC2o63OO8Cyrrbwj56A/P4MRCNOiXbbgv3kfl9gg7AvGTL1F3wNwUoDq/WmwYftWqBd8fXENt+tY+C2qXo6BX1Ia6WJPnKt8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=EgC0qUT7uwx6yw8IQ9I5US0vK16b9rMEsW6roM9bv55aV8kn+2cNmFNaHg/GPadqsmqH3pdVIRVf0ktUotkhrEuIYVA0cJD9UIo8FUKedW26n48WeHbYRosmU/pUThqF66ONXpR2XDzZQ4lrZaWaJa9w4WNNdjW1yFiRnrECu6Q= Received: by 10.140.201.21 with SMTP id y21mr3101656rvf.259.1212160282850; Fri, 30 May 2008 08:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.142.18 with HTTP; Fri, 30 May 2008 08:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4a89d1190805300811m16ebb1e3v2b2eba28e952873e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:11:22 +0200 From: "Christian Zachariasen" To: "Wojciech Puchar" , "FreeBSD Mailing Lists" In-Reply-To: <20080530170151.D2560@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200805301453.m4UErWlE011463@lurza.secnetix.de> <20080530170151.D2560@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Renaming "root" to "homer"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:11:24 -0000 On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Wojciech Puchar < wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote: > Peope have already pointed out that it is a bad idea to >> allow remote root logins, so I won't repeat that. :-) >> > > i like bad ideas :) except the worst idea - dumb generalization. > > But to answer your question: Renaming the "root" account >> will probably break quite a log of things, for example >> > > make 2 roots, root and homer in /etc/master.passwd > > just remember to type > passwd root > > or > > passwd homer. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > How would that help with his problem? Christian Zachariasen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 15:16:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102DE1065671 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 15:16:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D54C8FC21 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 15:16:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4UFGQVP002635; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:16:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m4UFGQl0002632; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:16:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:16:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Christian Zachariasen In-Reply-To: <4a89d1190805300811m16ebb1e3v2b2eba28e952873e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080530171618.K2631@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200805301453.m4UErWlE011463@lurza.secnetix.de> <20080530170151.D2560@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <4a89d1190805300811m16ebb1e3v2b2eba28e952873e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Mailing Lists Subject: Re: Renaming "root" to "homer"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:16:32 -0000 >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > How would that help with his problem? > > Christian Zachariasen > all programs will work From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 15:18:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65B7106564A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 15:18:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952358FC0A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 15:18:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 31so437888yxl.13 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 08:18:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=BgiQFsEO/p6n1YImeUg/Vr0Xe3jlJjVhHC1NjxKJIh0=; b=tRQ8lLbNr0lIdblR/PaZUvNF2pSf5gopFeM2jId5ai/M9MmYHIfICXErrmsk+cHeFNVp6JygiGsMO7Am0z7mOVuOkCVP1rmBoDjCPWO59mZFh1MYolB3GMoVNDzG1B02PmPIeYaAmfc3AhrLvSCrpBAeceN7kKnbe950nHj+Pfw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cWE0CBnll8nWEze5o5fbYOD5ynADAHFyJnZBE0dq36stACin2wQoWkEBi1ZcGLAw0QzKxMh9+cE8FlVt536Y6bal36hyMeDVgq8ZMLqYe8QezuhnOUtrh4kyAEYGoTU838SVw3iP/LiLZZ/KvMxUnsKZZG2+gBu7+pD7D9R+ZN0= Received: by 10.150.83.22 with SMTP id g22mr905963ybb.146.1212160704877; Fri, 30 May 2008 08:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.155.3 with HTTP; Fri, 30 May 2008 08:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <14989d6e0805300818p3f90570eye1dc27d01cccca2f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:18:24 +0200 From: "Christian Walther" To: "Wojciech Puchar" In-Reply-To: <20080530170151.D2560@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200805301453.m4UErWlE011463@lurza.secnetix.de> <20080530170151.D2560@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Cc: gilles.ganault@free.fr, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Renaming "root" to "homer"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:18:31 -0000 2008/5/30 Wojciech Puchar : >> Peope have already pointed out that it is a bad idea to >> allow remote root logins, so I won't repeat that. :-) > > i like bad ideas :) except the worst idea - dumb generalization. > >> But to answer your question: Renaming the "root" account >> will probably break quite a log of things, for example > > make 2 roots, root and homer in /etc/master.passwd Won't work. sshd does not only check the username, but the UserID, too... That's what I expect from a security aware software anyway. A method to deal with this "issue" could be to install sudo and to define username ALL=(root):NOPASSWD:/path/to/shell Then you could do alias su="/usr/local/bin/sudo -u root /path/to/shell" Needless to say that as soon as the user account is compromised, the root account is out of your control, too. > > just remember to type > passwd root > > or > > passwd homer. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 15:20:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02152106566C for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 15:20:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD74D8FC0A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 15:20:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so4712364rvf.43 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 08:20:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ncBy8DRRobo/xAKLDq40gIjv/708hD2r/pwYaD8YmOM=; b=Mn9yVVIhh45wVGgsW0sL2C9yxgjpX7WNr+t/Bp3kZYTDXO/CTKX9NWkYvXYVbSjum7cwBegB4Fx2Pfjx1nqfLeLb46z+Qe3FECtJB4iphRZGeC0ktErW9sCowImREY4rjRYAjD3no2TseWkfM0yXOIecE+yLH6kRVr6YdkBQ9oo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RQoVHhy7dc0OmygerWbYqVZRaJhwpf7M1iEhz5I3lEZ2IsZ9XgoO2pzDS5K7LUDslA/aUBdrm9fLUEomi+Gz/YQUsRwu7gj2u3YOs+pc44nKaTT+5Mt9PnnFbCj8uPkJNpN40EOdXj4+hzHJlADloIMcMjoK82eg8PTOuECBN7c= Received: by 10.141.156.19 with SMTP id i19mr3102905rvo.57.1212160826293; Fri, 30 May 2008 08:20:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.248.15 with HTTP; Fri, 30 May 2008 08:20:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54db43990805300820na3be361hf9cba1b8820a75ef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:20:26 -0400 From: "Bob Johnson" To: Gilles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Renaming "root" to "homer"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:20:27 -0000 On 5/29/08, Gilles wrote: > Hello > > With all those scripts trying to connect to SSHd as "root", I was > wondering if it'd be OK to rename this account to eg. "homer", to act > as a first line of defense? I doubt it. > > Are there unknown consequences to doing something like that? > Probably, but if we knew what they were, they wouldn't be unknown. > If not, is it done by just editing /etc/password with vi, or is there > a better way? > Use vipw. That invokes vi (or your default editor if that's not vi) to edit the account database (which isn't actually /etc/passwd), and when you exit from vi, it runs the scripts necessary to update all the right things. Lots of peeps have already pointed out the downside of this, but if you really think it's what you want to do, probably the best way to do it is to create a second admin account named "homer" or whatever. In /etc/passwd, the "toor" account is an example of this (it is disabled by default). They both have UID 0 and are effectively the same account, just accessed by different names and passwords. Then change the root password to be invalid, so the attackers can hack away all day and have no chance of guessing the root password. You do that by putting a * in the password field (the second field) while you are in vipw. I (along with many others) think you should find a solution that doesn't require remote admin logins, but while you do the reading necessary for that, this at least seems to quickly accomplish your goal. - Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 15:35:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6543106566B for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 15:35:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373FC8FC0A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 15:35:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so2682047tid.3 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 08:35:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=UzVkf6dJNgOUaA4Sq0RGJo7hQi8IlzlYqA3GwVYqoiU=; b=lGPV9CPA+0XaAGOZfQOVuUt75tW/3az1M8v678xjFj5VuRHeXrFAIMhJO9Y4K+9rDFDKWbL1CZBlHXnP2+1wL3yDlON0AM3mQ1DhpQjk+2RgkW7YgAAXW35PD/+srCrIjKAT6A1s2DBcjBiOoiungF4BQUODrgi5G8GLVJUiPxc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=sKY5LnJFc9JPR+UrJxNJanGjSJRLGSR7anxG6ZoavVm3kJb6dsyz8c7kVewlQH2NVGDBFU9kxh/ZKxVCpRsVn9QvbaCEdmLviBRCldB55o4ghLR/BVn8malUSJDmzyRsLvjE24jnSMzFnC1sC6FygupxtBEpHH8+VhOwvW6kmfc= Received: by 10.110.63.6 with SMTP id l6mr748314tia.4.1212161716747; Fri, 30 May 2008 08:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.103.4 with HTTP; Fri, 30 May 2008 08:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5635aa0d0805300835s2909ea5bi77f28aa5b4abe6b5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 22:35:16 +0700 From: "Outback Dingo" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com In-Reply-To: <200805301505.m4UF5Brl012043@lurza.secnetix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> <200805301505.m4UF5Brl012043@lurza.secnetix.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:35:18 -0000 Postfix rules, Dovecot or cyrus, though dovecot seems more managable my take running an ISP based mail system Postfix Definately Qmail, its ok, in most cases scenerios Exim - No way and Dovecot or Cyrus for imaps/imap On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Patrick Baldwin wrote: > > Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my > > mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm > > thinking FreeBSD might be the best choice of OS for the replacement. > > > > However, it's been some time since I looked into options for mail > > servers. I'm interested in both suggestions for hardware and mail > > servers that would make for the best FreeBSD based mail server. > > > > I've only got about two dozen users, though they are all very heavy > > users of email. I'm using IMAP, and I'd like to continue to do so. > > > > Finally, we have quite a few aliases I'd want to port over to a > > new server. > > I also recommend dovecot. I'm using it for several years > without a problem, and it was quite simple to setup. > > I'm using it with sendmail, though (not postfix), because > I've been using sendmail for almost 20 years and haven't > had a reason to switch. If you're already familiar with > sendmail on Solaris, then I recommend you continue using > sendmail on FreeBSD (it's the default MTA that comes with > the base system). > > Having said that, Postfix _is_ a very good MTA, I'm using > it at work. If you're willing to switch and invest a > little bit of time learning something new, then Postfix > is certainly a good choice. It's quite easy to install > Postfix from the ports collection. > > Best regards > Oliver > > -- > Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. > Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Gesch=E4ftsfuehrun= g: > secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht M=FC= n- > chen, HRB 125758, Gesch=E4ftsf=FChrer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Geb= hart > > FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd > > C++: "an octopus made by nailing extra legs onto a dog" > -- Steve Taylor, 1998 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 15:39:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BFC81065680 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 15:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from smtp2.tls.net (smtp2.tls.net [65.196.224.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4818FC0A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 15:39:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 22069 invoked from network); 30 May 2008 15:39:13 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.3 ppid: 22059, pid: 22065, t: 0.1818s scanners: attach: 1.2.3 clamav: 0.91.1/m:45/d:6125 spam: 3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on smtp-2.tls.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=20.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.2.1 Received: from 64-184-9-72.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.1.42?) (ldg%tls.net@64.184.9.72) by auth-smtp2.tls.net with ESMTPA; 30 May 2008 15:39:13 -0000 Message-ID: <48401F97.9010003@pixelhammer.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:39:03 -0400 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> <483FAD90.6010101@extracktor.com> <484013A7.6020507@mikestammer.com> In-Reply-To: <484013A7.6020507@mikestammer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:39:14 -0000 Eric Zimmerman wrote: > Foo JH wrote: >> I like Qmail. It's not overly difficult to configure, and it's >> extensible. >> > > and requires 400 patches to do basic things =( List them, not 100, not 399, all 400 please. Keep in mind that when your download x.x.x release of a software package you are downloading a "patched" source code. Sendmail has been patched many times, Postfix is patched, Exim is patched. qmail just requires you apply your own patches. Patching is not a bad thing, shrinkwrap mail admins applying patches that they do not understand is a bad thing. > > heres some interesting reading about qmail... > > http://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/~ma/qmail-bugs.html That so much time and effort is spent telling everyone how bad qmail is still amazes me. It is one of the best performing and most extensible MTAs I have ever used. It is not however, suitable for those who choose not to understand how mail works. Point and clickers should stay with Postfix, also a very capable MTA. DAve -- In 50 years, our descendants will look back on the early years of the internet, and much like we now look back on men with rockets on their back and feathers glued to their arms, marvel that we had the intelligence to wipe the drool from our chins. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 15:55:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB601065673 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 15:55:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701868FC26 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 15:55:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 10915 invoked by uid 0); 30 May 2008 15:55:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (216.186.148.249) by smtp7.knology.net with SMTP; 30 May 2008 15:55:24 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id A61CD28429; Fri, 30 May 2008 10:55:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 10:55:24 -0500 From: David Kelly To: Bob Johnson Message-ID: <20080530155524.GA45632@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> <54db43990805291514l52140608le23b39a760a64a0c@mail.gmail.com> <20080530032001.GG62524@thought.org> <54db43990805300752n413dd879j69c320c8012b8c5e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <54db43990805300752n413dd879j69c320c8012b8c5e@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:55:26 -0000 On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:52:31AM -0400, Bob Johnson wrote: > > I suspect that using an editor that _correctly_ highlights HTML code > would solve most of your problems. Yes, that is why I suggested tidy in addition to the other online validators. If one's editor tool doesn't help, tidy is close at hand. Can standardize the coding format. Can help fix errors. Can point out errors. > To me, a content management system only makes sense for a site that is > either large, or has multiple authors. If you update your site > frequently, a WYSIWYG HTML editor would be helpful and should have a > very small learning curve. I think others have already suggested a > few. I really don't like the output of the WYSIWYG HTML editors I've seen. A real text editor with HTML syntax parser for assistance is probably best for anyone willing to read HTML. I think CVS or Subversion /usr/ports/devel/subversion is among the best "content management systems" available. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 16:00:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67296106568B for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 16:00:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A27E8FC15 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 16:00:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C8735061; Fri, 30 May 2008 18:00:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 18:00:26 +0200 From: cpghost To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080530180026.6a2e4857@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <20080529185055.GU26299@ayvali.org> References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> <20080529185055.GU26299@ayvali.org> Organization: Cordula's Web X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Patrick Baldwin Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 16:00:30 -0000 On Thu, 29 May 2008 14:50:56 -0400 "N.J. Thomas" wrote: > * Patrick Baldwin [2008-05-29 > 13:35:27-0400]: > > I'm interested in both suggestions for hardware and mail servers > > that would make for the best FreeBSD based mail server. > > A third vote for Postfix + Dovecot here. Using Postfix and Cyrus-IMAP here, both on small Soekris-based SOHO-Routers with a few users (5 to 20 per office), as well as on a few big corporate networks with approx. 6000+ users each, and many virtual domains. Postfix has proved both dead-easy to configure and able to withstand many waves of serious DDoS attacks by rate-limiting itself. Its anti-spam features, if used right, are also quite effective. I've used sendmail extensively in the past, and that was not bad either, though a little tough to configure for edge cases. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 16:16:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D01106566C for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 16:16:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999AE8FC1F for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 16:16:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m4UGCWHv042671; Fri, 30 May 2008 12:12:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m4UGCWOn042670; Fri, 30 May 2008 12:12:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 12:12:32 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20080530161232.GA42590@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <200805301453.m4UErWlE011463@lurza.secnetix.de> <20080530170151.D2560@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080530170151.D2560@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: gilles.ganault@free.fr, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Renaming "root" to "homer"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 16:16:37 -0000 On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 05:03:06PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >Peope have already pointed out that it is a bad idea to > >allow remote root logins, so I won't repeat that. :-) > > i like bad ideas :) except the worst idea - dumb generalization. > > >But to answer your question: Renaming the "root" account > >will probably break quite a log of things, for example > > make 2 roots, root and homer in /etc/master.passwd > > just remember to type > passwd root > > or > > passwd homer. Yes, you can make an alternately named root (such as toor is just that) with its own login directory and .cshrc, window manager, etc But is still bad to log in directly as any of these roots from a remote location. As has been mentioned, you should ssh in to a non-root account and then su to the root. You can su to the alternate root and then not give the main root a password if you like. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 16:21:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925AC1065670 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 16:21:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744FF8FC17 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 16:21:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m4UGHgOC042692; Fri, 30 May 2008 12:17:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m4UGHgvO042691; Fri, 30 May 2008 12:17:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 12:17:42 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Jos Chrispijn Message-ID: <20080530161742.GB42590@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <483FC68E.2030603@webrz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <483FC68E.2030603@webrz.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Delayed cronjobs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 16:21:45 -0000 On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:19:10AM +0200, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > Let's say my system has been down for one day. Is it possible to > automatically (re)start cronjobs on system startup that should have been > run the day before? You can write the sccript that your cronjob starts so that it keeps track of when it was last run and then either have cron run it often or add it to /usr/local/etc/rc.d to be run at startup. Then if the script was run sufficiently recently, just exit - maybe with an appropriate message/error code. ////jerry > > -- Jos > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 16:29:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6717E1065672 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 16:29:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E198C8FC12 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 16:29:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from prawn.unsane.co.uk (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m4UGSsbB091420 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 30 May 2008 17:28:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <48402B6A.9030101@unsane.co.uk> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:29:30 +0100 From: Vince Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080514) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Outback Dingo References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> <200805301505.m4UF5Brl012043@lurza.secnetix.de> <5635aa0d0805300835s2909ea5bi77f28aa5b4abe6b5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5635aa0d0805300835s2909ea5bi77f28aa5b4abe6b5@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 16:29:35 -0000 As a sysadmin at a medium mailhosting ISP (~15,000 email customers, averaging about 5 email addresses per customer,) we use a load balanced cluster of Dovecot and exim servers with mysql backend. Theres no way we could use qmail, it just doesnt have the flexibility even with 1/2 a dozen patches. That said I do like postfix I've used it before for smtp relay servers and its performed like a champ. Vince Outback Dingo wrote: > Postfix rules, Dovecot or cyrus, though dovecot seems more managable > > my take running an ISP based mail system > Postfix Definately > Qmail, its ok, in most cases scenerios > Exim - No way > > and Dovecot or Cyrus for imaps/imap > > > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Oliver Fromme > wrote: > >> Patrick Baldwin wrote: >> > Hi all, I've got an older Solaris system running Sendmail for my >> > mail server right now. It's about time to replace it, and I'm >> > thinking FreeBSD might be the best choice of OS for the replacement. >> > >> > However, it's been some time since I looked into options for mail >> > servers. I'm interested in both suggestions for hardware and mail >> > servers that would make for the best FreeBSD based mail server. >> > >> > I've only got about two dozen users, though they are all very heavy >> > users of email. I'm using IMAP, and I'd like to continue to do so. >> > >> > Finally, we have quite a few aliases I'd want to port over to a >> > new server. >> >> I also recommend dovecot. I'm using it for several years >> without a problem, and it was quite simple to setup. >> >> I'm using it with sendmail, though (not postfix), because >> I've been using sendmail for almost 20 years and haven't >> had a reason to switch. If you're already familiar with >> sendmail on Solaris, then I recommend you continue using >> sendmail on FreeBSD (it's the default MTA that comes with >> the base system). >> >> Having said that, Postfix _is_ a very good MTA, I'm using >> it at work. If you're willing to switch and invest a >> little bit of time learning something new, then Postfix >> is certainly a good choice. It's quite easy to install >> Postfix from the ports collection. >> >> Best regards >> Oliver >> >> -- >> Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. >> Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: >> secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- >> chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart >> >> FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd >> >> C++: "an octopus made by nailing extra legs onto a dog" >> -- Steve Taylor, 1998 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 16:53:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0841106568D for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 16:53:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886868FC15 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 16:53:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BE3FD06E for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 18:54:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A982BFD06D for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 18:54:00 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484030F4.1040804@webrz.net> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 18:53:08 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483FC68E.2030603@webrz.net> <20080530161742.GB42590@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20080530161742.GB42590@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Subject: Re: Delayed cronjobs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 16:53:22 -0000 Hi Jerry, Jerry McAllister wrote: > You can write the sccript that your cronjob starts so that it keeps > track of when it was last run and then either have cron run it often > or add it to /usr/local/etc/rc.d to be run at startup. That would be a good option as well; I didn't think of that. thanks for sharing, Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 17:02:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id B65461065679; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20080530170200.B65461065679@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:02:00 -0000 How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update $Date: 2005/08/10 02:21:44 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. 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You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? ========================================= Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. When sending a new message, well, send a new message. Don't reply to some other message, erase the old content and change the subject line. That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as a reply to some other message. People often delete messages a whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you also run a chance of having the message deleted unread. 4. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. $Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.6 2005/08/10 02:21:44 grog Exp $ _______________________________________________ Thanks to Josh Paetzel for updating this document to describe mailman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 17:02:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id BDAF4106567C; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20080530170200.BDAF4106567C@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:02:00 -0000 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Note also that the book has now been released for free download in PDF form. Instead of downloading the changed pages, you may prefer to download the entire book. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ for more information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm no longer constantly updating it, but I may be able to help Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 17:48:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E07A1065673 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308B98FC23 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m4UHmcWR020791; Fri, 30 May 2008 19:48:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m4UHmc6Q020790; Fri, 30 May 2008 19:48:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 19:48:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200805301748.m4UHmc6Q020790@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, gilles.ganault@free.fr, wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl In-Reply-To: <20080530170151.D2560@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 30 May 2008 19:48:44 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Renaming "root" to "homer"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, gilles.ganault@free.fr, wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:48:46 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Peope have already pointed out that it is a bad idea to > > allow remote root logins, so I won't repeat that. :-) > > i like bad ideas :) except the worst idea - dumb generalization. If you disagree, please explain why. Otherwise your comment is pointless. > > But to answer your question: Renaming the "root" account > > will probably break quite a log of things, for example > > make 2 roots, root and homer in /etc/master.passwd Yes, that would work. You just have to make sure to disable password logins for root (i.e. "*"). Another idea would be to move sshd from the default port to a non-standard port, e.g. 222 or whatever. Typically ssh brute force attacks target port 22 only. This will also clear your logs from useless break-in attempts. Note that both suggestions (creating a "homer" user and using a different port) are _not_ security measures per-se, but rather "security by obscurity". You still have to use good passwords, or ssh keys. Another approach is to enable ssh connections only from certain source addresses or networks, using IPFW or PF. Of course that's only possible if you know in advance from which addresses you will need to be able to connect. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd cat man du : where Unix geeks go when they die From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 17:52:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB0D1065670 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:52:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from raq3.nitrex.net (raq3.nitrex.net [213.165.226.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C068FC28 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:52:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.10.141] (gate.zenatode.org.uk [213.165.225.167]) by raq3.nitrex.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m4UHqUut003641 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 30 May 2008 18:52:30 +0100 Message-ID: <48403EDE.1090409@onetel.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 18:52:30 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080528) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Stapleton References: <80f4f2b20805300608s13ec0fa7x7034f1a89ea07c46@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20805300608s13ec0fa7x7034f1a89ea07c46@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, connexion@psand.net Subject: Re: Best solution - mobile wifi hotspot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:52:33 -0000 Jim Stapleton wrote: > My dad makes instruments and goes to a lot of festivals. They are > typically in the middle of nowhere, without internet. Many vendors > still bring notebooks as they provide quick & easy access to many > things, but there is no internet. For credit cards, many use their > cell phones to make the transaction. My dad wants to get a satellite > connection (pure sattelite, no phone), and set up something to offer a > wireless hotspot. > - Some shows will just pay a flat fee, and have the hotspot open. > - Some shows won't pay a fee, and so he'll want to charge to recover > some of the cost. > > For the open hotspots, a simple wireless router will do. For the > charge hotspots, we'd want something a little more flexible. My first > thought was 'FreeBSD can do that!'. The trick is that we will be using > battery power most of the time. Low power is the key. I'm thinknig > sub-20W max power drain worst case, SUB 10-15W is ideal. > > > With that background info, my questions are: > 1) Is building a low power computer based on FreeBSD the right way to > go? Or would you all recommend something else? What? > 2) Does anyone have experience with the GeodeNX or VIA C7 boards > available on NewEgg? Heads ups and pointers? > 3) Does anyone have experiences with these and a given wireless > adaptor, How good/bad is/was it? > > Thanks, > -Jim Stapleton > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > This particular wheel has already been invented several ways :) http://psand.net/ https://en.wiki.aktivix.org/SquatTelecoms To keep power down you probably want to opt for a dedicated wireless router box not a computer (unless you are also saving bandwidth with squid etc). And to generate electricity use wind or solar. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 18:09:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A8D106567A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 18:09:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A828FC28 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 18:09:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508FC1116EB; Fri, 30 May 2008 14:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 30 May 2008 14:09:50 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 9SN8MWjo66KBcOp5Qc/Z94/gZOLToklKcLcibONNGrOX 1212170989 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C0DB52B4A5; Fri, 30 May 2008 14:09:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <72E62274-D23A-4097-8908-678588DDBEDE@goldmark.org> From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: DAve In-Reply-To: <48401F97.9010003@pixelhammer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 13:09:48 -0500 References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> <483FAD90.6010101@extracktor.com> <484013A7.6020507@mikestammer.com> <48401F97.9010003@pixelhammer.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 18:09:51 -0000 On May 30, 2008, at 10:39 AM, DAve wrote: > That so much time and effort is spent telling everyone how bad qmail > is still amazes me. Is it still the case that qmail does not reject mail during SMTP transaction, but instead will do an "accept and then later bounce"? If this is still true, then I don't care if qmail turns out to be a great way to manage your mail server. It is a terrible network citizen. Anyway, here are my personal prejudices about MTAs: Sendmail: There was a time when I would set things up for clients with sendmail because if I got hit by a bus, there were more people around with sendmail skills then exim skills. Also there was a time when only sendmail did milters. (And of course there was a time when there was only sendmail). But my feeling about sendmail has always been that it was designed backwards in that things that should have been hard coded (parsing 822 addresses) were done in the configuration file and things that should have been configurable (throttling intervals) were hard coded. For someone with a simple set-up using FreeBSD, sendmail may be the best choice still because it is already there. Likewise for someone who wants to have their MTA to factor numbers or solve the towers of hanoi, sendmail is for them. exim: If I were setting up a large complicated installation for say an ISP or a mail hosting system, exim is what I would use. I've heard people say that they didn't understand the configuration file, but I don't see what the problem is. It is straight forward and direct. You just need to remember that in some sections of the configuration file, the order of directives matter. exim also has this built-in procmail replacement (exim filters) in its mail delivery. Of course, sieve has largely replaced the need for this. postfix: This would be my first recommendation to someone starting from the beginning for most sites. If there is no legacy need for sendmail, and we are not talking about very large and complex arrangements requiring exim, then postfix solid, reasonably flexible, easy to set up and probably now has a user base to rival sendmail. I have never managed a qmail, Lotus Notes or MS Exchange system. But my MTAs have had to interact with them. I feel that they should never be allowed to face the Internet. They are just too loose in their interpretations of standards and conventions. -j From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 18:17:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39CF1065672 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 18:17:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout1.easydns.com [205.210.42.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B601F8FC28 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 18:17:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from guardian.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FC5487B9 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 14:14:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by guardian.shadypond.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DFFC419BC6 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 18:17:44 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 18:17:41 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> <48401F97.9010003@pixelhammer.com> <72E62274-D23A-4097-8908-678588DDBEDE@goldmark.org> In-Reply-To: <72E62274-D23A-4097-8908-678588DDBEDE@goldmark.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200805301817.42970.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 18:17:48 -0000 On Friday 30 May 2008 18:09:48 Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > exim: If I were setting up a large complicated installation for say an > ISP or a mail hosting system, exim is what I would use. I've heard > people say that they didn't understand the configuration file, but I > don't see what the problem is. It is straight forward and direct. > You just need to remember that in some sections of the configuration > file, the order of directives matter. exim also has this built-in > procmail replacement (exim filters) in its mail delivery. Of course, > sieve has largely replaced the need for this. I have not used Exim with *BSD's but I used it with Debian at one time and it was easy to set up. More recently, the configuration became complicated, at least with Debian. So I stuck with Postfix. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 18:46:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEEC9106566B for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 18:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net (ptb-relay03.plus.net [212.159.14.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA09F8FC1E for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 18:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=milibyte.co.uk) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1K29cV-0000i4-Nv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 19:46:31 +0100 Received: by milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K29cV-0001WA-6S for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 19:46:31 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 19:46:30 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200805301748.m4UHmc6Q020790@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200805301748.m4UHmc6Q020790@lurza.secnetix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200805301946.30967.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: b7d07cf0030cb94bca0abcdd3899ea81 Subject: Re: Renaming "root" to "homer"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 18:46:34 -0000 On Friday 30 May 2008, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Another idea would be to move sshd from the default port > to a non-standard port, e.g. 222 or whatever. =A0Typically > ssh brute force attacks target port 22 only. =A0This will > also clear your logs from useless break-in attempts. /usr/ports/security/denyhosts is quite good for permanently blocking=20 access from IP's that make suspicious ssh probes. It reduces garbage in=20 the logs too because after a remote address gets blocked future probes=20 from it get rejected before they even get as far as being logged. =2D-=20 Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 19:04:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71239106567C for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 19:04:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E0188FC18 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 19:04:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4UJ4Lpo084119; Fri, 30 May 2008 12:04:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 12:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 12:04:16 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: DAve Message-ID: <20080530190416.GA7251@thought.org> References: <483F9115.4010903@pixelhammer.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <483F9115.4010903@pixelhammer.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 19:04:22 -0000 On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 01:31:01AM -0400, DAve wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gary Kline > >>Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:51 PM > >>To: Ted Mittelstaedt > >>Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List > >>Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. > >> > >> > >> you probably didn't start with the earlier markup. back then, > >> '93-4, there was
,

, , and . i wrote a 2.2K-line > >> program to handle "hi" -> ``hi'' and a couple other things. > >> the code has evolved, of course, but still works. > >> > > > >Not the case. I use vi myself and I eschew background gifs and > >such. Web pages that I create are black text on a white back > >ground interspersed with images when needed. Period. No CSS no frames, no > >nothing. If the content I put up isn't worth reading > >then no amount of formatting, font specification, animated > >images, and so forth is going to get people to look at it, > >is my feeling. > > I nearly spit coffee on my keyboard! I agree with you 100%. When we all > did HTML with BBedit and Textpad, people like Black, Tog, and Nielsen > kept everyone designing websites to best serve the content. Now it is > all about the sizzle, but there is rarely a steak. > > DAve You got it, man. At least 80% of the site I happen on--at least that are selling something--have so much kerrapp going on I'd go blind if I stayed there for very long. (I so *enjoy* being able to block ads or stop-movie (gnash), and then find the router or DVD or whatever. And get out!) This is not the kind of page i'M aiming for. --But then, I really don't know what/how I want to revise my www homepage. The reason for the strange display was a bad comment. So at least I've learned something! Now www looks fine from ffox, opera, and Konq. I've forbidden my tweenager from using IE so have to wait for wife. Or see if friends reply who use IE. gary > > -- > In 50 years, our descendants will look back on the early years > of the internet, and much like we now look back on men with > rockets on their back and feathers glued to their arms, marvel > that we had the intelligence to wipe the drool from our chins. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 19:24:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A18F01065670 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 19:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erazorbg@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8258FC14 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 19:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erazorbg@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so293365fkk.11 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 12:24:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=2AmCsT98z96BS0OpU39TNOsclgwEI/L7r0AjcGjGA4U=; b=uJO5XiK5JU1uhSIwy9QB1iD9zEC7Q5WRRZeRQcQCc8qOg/dAsYvTn74LBSc1wBVUk/C7cwhy5MA92UwTmMyplvC2b0rZz5/O0OQlJqF2p+OFcbvUsN+JnbA5lq0uV47DDG05R9GfecbMGy9/T3Asanf9nCFSBUP7pdaxK2ODzzg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=yDDjtZ3WHkR5FJuvJ6o+wFnPWjmHKsYTMS+6dp4aaaWYFqqPm05RXro9iuxlRC8LEFYOk147yr2+0I/aU/REEjFQCGhjnKag7B4wce6XSLaFEwT1th/39+tXvaTH3N53rvpyEDGCHVeLvNQXMAp6rD0qZxfKUEeMOqgazX+/BGc= Received: by 10.82.127.14 with SMTP id z14mr601771buc.67.1212173890240; Fri, 30 May 2008 11:58:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.138.4 with HTTP; Fri, 30 May 2008 11:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7cc8007f0805301158x39441c5bi23b2221df1e470e5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 21:58:09 +0300 From: "Dimiter Ivanov" To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: www.freebsd.org mirrors and cgi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 19:24:29 -0000 Hello, i found out that the cgi scripts from the official site (www.freebsd.org) does not work on the mirrors. They are present but the webserver returns the source-code instead of executing them. I tested with the script for searching the ports, I tried several mirrors with the same results. Is this desired behavior? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 19:24:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB6A106564A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 19:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ericsbinaryworld@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252B58FC14 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 19:24:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ericsbinaryworld@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so207682ana.13 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 12:24:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=uLFHgspbT30V2X+s8EpYNvxI1qw/V3Ut0znQqpqAOHA=; b=SrCiYeBid+fbAI0UW/pfZ29j8CHn7tFmwSspEAUNN9/YytFEIMUOXc3LIxhDYdN+yShJCRTUOvq5Ghjjf2sR+9iQOmVBEosdzvpOcQ03OQXqErWGDjLHwmmZ15QqUnkKlFNX2HaWCmBEFHxvTB0V2qtk+rsD4UR6FgactXQ07Ks= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=sP1n675ai+pcgj1tm0cgpHxkcGxpyGSXSIKSl3A3BkxFw3LdQ3FKm06o2FXMvn32QtsDBUt5s9lEChecjG/pbiskxxFmcgCb8YoCAQtvFTdTkWXmKx5TA6PMD9LMxZkSm78LI2FPa/FYXUmZfuKmKyG48plSAVTgHEuO7su7vIA= Received: by 10.100.41.8 with SMTP id o8mr9614185ano.82.1212174008321; Fri, 30 May 2008 12:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.106.12 with HTTP; Fri, 30 May 2008 12:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <582715960805301200s282cf606y4fe1a6920242101@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:00:08 -0400 From: "Eric Mesa" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 19:24:41 -0000 On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:17 PM, wrote: > Message 2: > Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD > > I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm > having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 > MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball > disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just > fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing > Operating System". > > - > ************************************************** > Wow, this example is getting old! 66Mhz CPU, 16 MB memory? I think I had a computer like this around 15 years ago. I cringe at the thought that anyone is using something like this as their main machine. And FreeBSD 2.1?!? -- Eric Mesa http://www.ericsbinaryworld.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 20:09:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52BA01065678 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 20:09:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4059D8FC0A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 20:09:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so8701rvf.43 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 13:09:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=qykZsgH/gQl7MqH4kwY7fjXwnUFqbF+Xf6Ly4cf2cFI=; b=J85/jLVcKP3Qewoh8U92Sy3vmiE4rguU0iMmbjXgJEkzI3J1HKiJoalyO0Aw0zUIV9BY8ivS54EuB2imms5wPrjHbz7MVjrwMZbQryHwUL8NBw4j4pC+Wl24BrDcU9TNPFvEXBDOQhI9/E7WaSuRzwxm3GidzIn6OvUxdLMUBvA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Av5Dt8oLYW0lfqU5ST7iVpnIQSOuF3REz1bBu0U9Sc+79rYDkZYpKiM8Osx1U0U1huKSGhKOAi2LGFciIuHiS0iwCyR19poVlbYTRjGmNJH7fJLgUKlkhawj3NfY+s3Ghndm1pIElPowuArzDS6D4VBJAlL+e299TjEAc6PLEPg= Received: by 10.141.43.5 with SMTP id v5mr3331775rvj.49.1212178165904; Fri, 30 May 2008 13:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.248.15 with HTTP; Fri, 30 May 2008 13:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54db43990805301309q6345aa6dy78546deda8327293@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 16:09:25 -0400 From: "Bob Johnson" To: DAve In-Reply-To: <48401F97.9010003@pixelhammer.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> <483FAD90.6010101@extracktor.com> <484013A7.6020507@mikestammer.com> <48401F97.9010003@pixelhammer.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 20:09:26 -0000 On 5/30/08, DAve wrote: > Eric Zimmerman wrote: >> Foo JH wrote: >>> I like Qmail. It's not overly difficult to configure, and it's >>> extensible. >>> >> >> and requires 400 patches to do basic things =( > > List them, not 100, not 399, all 400 please. > > Keep in mind that when your download x.x.x release of a software package > you are downloading a "patched" source code. Sendmail has been patched > many times, Postfix is patched, Exim is patched. qmail just requires you > apply your own patches. Patching is not a bad thing, shrinkwrap mail > admins applying patches that they do not understand is a bad thing. > >> >> heres some interesting reading about qmail... >> >> http://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/~ma/qmail-bugs.html > > That so much time and effort is spent telling everyone how bad qmail is > still amazes me. It is one of the best performing and most extensible > MTAs I have ever used. It is not however, suitable for those who choose > not to understand how mail works. Point and clickers should stay with > Postfix, also a very capable MTA. I agree. No one should use Qmail unless they have read and completely understand every email-related RFC and have at least two years of experience running a commercial mail server. Amateurs shouldn't even consider it. Please, use anything but Qmail. It sprays backscatter spam all over the internet. - Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 20:33:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB722106564A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 20:33:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net (fmailhost05.isp.att.net [204.127.217.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0708FC1F for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 20:33:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from [10.5.21.122] (adsl-19-255-222.bna.bellsouth.net[68.19.255.222]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc05) with ESMTP id <20080530202133H0500ioi05e>; Fri, 30 May 2008 20:21:33 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [68.19.255.222] Message-ID: <484061A9.6050201@datapipe.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:20:57 -0500 From: Paul Procacci User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Johnson References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> <483FAD90.6010101@extracktor.com> <484013A7.6020507@mikestammer.com> <48401F97.9010003@pixelhammer.com> <54db43990805301309q6345aa6dy78546deda8327293@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54db43990805301309q6345aa6dy78546deda8327293@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: DAve , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 20:33:21 -0000 Bob Johnson wrote: > On 5/30/08, DAve wrote: > >> Eric Zimmerman wrote: >> >>> Foo JH wrote: >>> >>>> I like Qmail. It's not overly difficult to configure, and it's >>>> extensible. >>>> >>>> >>> and requires 400 patches to do basic things =( >>> >> List them, not 100, not 399, all 400 please. >> >> Keep in mind that when your download x.x.x release of a software package >> you are downloading a "patched" source code. Sendmail has been patched >> many times, Postfix is patched, Exim is patched. qmail just requires you >> apply your own patches. Patching is not a bad thing, shrinkwrap mail >> admins applying patches that they do not understand is a bad thing. >> >> >>> heres some interesting reading about qmail... >>> >>> http://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/~ma/qmail-bugs.html >>> >> That so much time and effort is spent telling everyone how bad qmail is >> still amazes me. It is one of the best performing and most extensible >> MTAs I have ever used. It is not however, suitable for those who choose >> not to understand how mail works. Point and clickers should stay with >> Postfix, also a very capable MTA. >> > > > I agree. No one should use Qmail unless they have read and completely > understand every email-related RFC and have at least two years of > experience running a commercial mail server. Amateurs shouldn't even > consider it. > > Please, use anything but Qmail. It sprays backscatter spam all over > the internet. > > - Bob > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I'd personally vouch for Qmail myself. Having been an administrator now for mail servers in general for nearly 15 years, with experience with most notable mailers, Qmail by far lends itself to be the most highly configurable mailer assuming you know what you want ahead of time. Most experienced sysadmins, once they know what they want, can apply those patches to qmail with ease and roll out additional Qmail installations with a single package. Very easy indeed. However, in an attempt to remain as unbiased as possible (too late I realize) and just to reiterate, Qmail even though I believe it is a wonderful piece of software, you definately need to know what you are doing. Postfix, exim, etc., take a lot of guess work away from the administrator by making assumptions that qmail doesn't make. Some claim that this makes these packages better. For this reason, especially if you aren't familiar with any mailer, I would suggest something other than Qmail. Bob, as for 'backscaatter spam' (assuming I understood you), that's rubbish: http://www.interazioni.it/opensource/chkusr/ (as an example) Cheers! ~Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 20:44:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5004D106564A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 20:44:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 024638FC17 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 20:44:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 90853 invoked by uid 89); 30 May 2008 16:45:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by v6.ibctech.ca with ESMTPA; 30 May 2008 16:45:06 -0000 Message-ID: <484066C3.1000105@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 16:42:43 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Procacci References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> <483FAD90.6010101@extracktor.com> <484013A7.6020507@mikestammer.com> <48401F97.9010003@pixelhammer.com> <54db43990805301309q6345aa6dy78546deda8327293@mail.gmail.com> <484061A9.6050201@datapipe.com> In-Reply-To: <484061A9.6050201@datapipe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Bob Johnson , DAve , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 20:44:38 -0000 > I'd personally vouch for Qmail myself. So would I, for my environment. > Having been an administrator now > for mail servers in general for nearly 15 years, with experience with > most notable mailers, Qmail by far lends itself to be the most highly > configurable mailer assuming you know what you want ahead of time. Agreed. > Most > experienced sysadmins, once they know what they want, can apply those > patches to qmail with ease and roll out additional Qmail installations > with a single package. Very easy indeed. Yep. > Bob, as for 'backscaatter spam' (assuming I understood you), that's > rubbish: > http://www.interazioni.it/opensource/chkusr/ (as an example) ...which works very well. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 20:50:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE95106567A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 20:50:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBFC8FC1D for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 20:50:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K2BXx-00034P-4y; Fri, 30 May 2008 21:49:57 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id m4UKnuu0021402; Fri, 30 May 2008 21:49:56 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E6646FCA4AF; Fri, 30 May 2008 21:49:50 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 21:49:50 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20080530204950.GA43574@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> <4a89d1190805290039k1f2dedb1he342b4a83d7453a6@mail.gmail.com> <200805291305.22567.kline@thought.org> <20080529220536.GA39115@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20080530023902.GF62524@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080530023902.GF62524@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Fri, 30 May 2008 21:49:56 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 20:50:02 -0000 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 07:39:02PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:05:36PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote: > > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:05:22PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > [[ ... ]] > > > > > > /* * strange:: the way that mutt queues [ and orders ] its > > > replies and threads is * different from kmail. I only use a GUI > > > when there is a URL embedded, but * it must be down-queue. > > > .... */ > > > > Use textproc/urlview with mutt & Firefox. > > > Frank, can you do me a favor and mail your ~/.urlview, please? > I installed this program a few years ago, but it only worked > with lynx. I just found the url_handler.sh script so now have a > clue.... but if your ~/.urlview points to firefox you'll save me > some typing. --Also [going further OT], I like Konsole even > better than xterm.-- I'll post it here for the benefit of others: $ cat ~/.urlview COMMAND /usr/local/bin/firefox %s I've also got: macro index \cb |urlview\n # simulate the old browse-url function in my muttrc, so ctl-b gives me the list of the urls in the email. > > > > > > > > > > > > I would *rather* use vi and HTML-by-hand. And produce very simple, > > > readable, uncluttered pages. I don't use many graphics, e.g., I > > > use the strength of HTML, php, blah ** 3. > > > > > > > > > Since you're "a do it by hand" person, I'll give you the benefit of my > > experiences doing my pages that way. > > > > My site is on a similar scale to yours and I've just kept it simple > > except where I've used server-side (PHP/Perl) and Javascript. > > > Sounds like what I've done, more/less. My index file in > www/data is PHP. php keeps getting closer to C, &c; I've > written a few things in php. > > > > > > 1. > > > > Use Firefox to develop with and install the webdeveloper plug-in: > > > > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/60 > > > > Use vim not vi, since you get syntax highlighting with vim/gvim. > > > Mm, I'm familiar with vim; like it all right, but lost my > ~/.vimrc file (and my backup). NP in this case. vim does > a solid job of highlighting. I'll mail you mine. > > > > > Add x11/rgb to your system and: > > > > $ showrgb | less > > > > will show you the websafe colours. Plug in the numbers to your > > stylesheet to get your preferred colours. You can view the colours > > with e.g: > > > > $ xterm -bg steelblue > > > > Or: > > > > http://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_colornames.asp > > > Have the rgb app; when I began building my jottings pages I knew > the colors would set the philosophic/meditative mood, so in early > '02 I ripped off the light blue from the philosophy pages at > Lampeter. Then used various color wheels to choose the other > colors. This is about the outer limits of my "design > capabilities", :-) > > > > > > I use Gimp for any graphics. > > > Impressive. Anything at the level of The GIMP is beyond me. Hey, my knowledge of Gimp is strictly limited but they've got some tutorials on the Gimp homesite. > > > > > 2. > > > > Choose a standard that you are going to code to and validate against. > > I use XHTML1.0 Transitional and CSS. Things are going more XML than > > HTML and transitional is less restrictive than strict. > > > > Here is where it may be best to take this offlist. I'm guessing > that XHTML is "extended-HTML." Yes/no? >= 10 years ago I > created some short stories andor essays using the Sytle Sheets. > But as you point out, XML is prob'ly the future of markup and I > know next to nothing about it. > > For example, given John, *where/what* > defines the tag? Since the WWW bunch has given XML the nod, it > is both the present and future of a lot of the web. ---So, > are there any books for Beginners you recommend? You or anyone > else onlist who has waded thru this plea! No books, I learnt all mine online. > > > > 3. > > > > Have a look at w3c schools site to learn your chosen language: > > > > http://www.w3schools.com/ > > > > There are various tutorials and references there. Best site on the > > 'net! > > > > hMMM:-) Maybe I should've read ahead.... . > > > > 4. > > > > Steal a simple page that validates: > > > > http://www.shute.org.uk/miscellany.html > > > > and use it as a template to hack on. Steal the style sheet too. > > > > Validate your webpage as you go along with the w3c validator. > > Should I just google for the validator? At any rate, thanks much > for the two URL's above. The more I can learn on my own > (without bothering anyone else), the better. I think there's a link to it on the w3c schools site I gave you. If not, it's in the source of the page above. If you click on the "valid XHTML" in that page, it will validate that page. > > > > > > 5. > > > > A few tips: > > > > Use

's for layout, not tables. > > > i cannot // hhaven't made sense of
since I first saw it. > *This* may be where I've confused IE and Konq and it might be the > easiest way to create the layout that firefox gives me.
essentially gives you a box which after setting properties like font size, background color, margins, position etc. with your stylesheet you can place on your page and then fill with graphics, text etc. Have a look at the source and style sheet of my contact page (at the bottom of this mail) to see how you can use them quite simply. > > As I see it, ttables let you put rectangles anywhere; then you > can putt other things inside; how to do this with
is one > more black hole. Tables should be used sparely and mainly for tabulated data because they stuff up screenreaders for the blind amongst other crimes. Semantically, they don't make any sense when used for layout purposes and they're limited compared to
s. > > > > > > > Don't use fixed text heights, use relative so it respects the users > > preferences for text size. > > > I didn't understand you could hardwire a textsize; maybe I've > done it inadvertently ... Yeah, you can: font-size: 16px Use something like (in your style sheet): font: italic 120% sans-serif; where the 120% sets the size of the font relative to the browsers setting. Say me default font is set to 20px in my browser, then in the former case the font will render at 16px and in the latter case at 22px. I don't know if it's something you did with your pages but it's something you should be aware of. > > > > > > > Keep an eye out for pages that look nice and validate. View source & > > then steal chunks of xhtml and css. > > > > I still have unread messages down-queue, but may as well ask if > there are any HTML/XML checkers in ports that would help validate > my mark. David Kelly suggested www/tidy, for one. That's the one I use but it's a bit limited with XHTML. It will pass stuff that's not valid. The w3c XHTML/HTML validator is more complete and will make your errors explicit. There is also a CSS validator at w3c. > > It's been partly ignorance, partly my deadlines, and partly my > thinking that my pages just could never be as badly rendered > as they are that made me snap-to. Like to prevent this... . If you've got a couple of weeks free, you could spend it in worse ways than to learn how to write web pages that validate and render OK on all modern browsers. You're not writing a page for amazon.com, so you can keep it simple until your skills improve. > > > 6. > > > > Happy hacking! > > > > > > You'll find that your validated pages will show fine in most modern > > browsers although some have more quirks than others. But when you get > > somebody say "Your webpage doesn't look right in Internet Exploder 5" > > you can say to them "Get a proper browser that respects web > > standards! > > > L.O.L!. I'm hoping that most people have something better than > W95. You wouldn't believe it but my last place of work (a shop), they ran the (unbacked up) shop stock database on a machine running W98 and they browsed the 'net from it with IE5. No firewall but ripping off AVG (they also did email for the shop from that machine!). > > thanks again, and cheers, No worries. Contact me off-list if you get stuck with anything. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 21:12:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9800E1065670 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 21:12:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oren.almog@gmail.com) Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDA28FC0C for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 21:12:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oren.almog@gmail.com) Received: by hs-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id h53so149861hsh.11 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 14:12:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/dpZ7K+aBm/jS6wbIz3zq9qUFbNYniq+abK/vvgN1Xw=; b=DxsRytJjR10TfO+YNoV0H8GYRaLbkwgXJOFPBQZZBUtD9UR5UrIYt+MbMo8omuRpC24CiAMkNQN7KK1sq1/ni1jgx7U32Y5SatBdBxvEiKlPn5dObsJMi6nemb46aGceYdTR7Sdc369q7yS1Y2DcFgH3jwBC/DIS4PYxLqekg+g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=q40+U0DLcKE+QpDAnMWBbvL79s+fLrvN0Hx8rz5a9Y/Ks8+YyMYwSxdDPj5+eoHdB30vNLRhcc2dZEfaFUO30FtR1VMNV7Z1Mi/+6k+BdrgnN2eLybahToXvCCxU28yJUWgWOe+47kr1RvQw8H9A039KGKSOLdnMrkh/7WYglao= Received: by 10.90.71.15 with SMTP id t15mr1564617aga.109.1212180280515; Fri, 30 May 2008 13:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ( [201.250.92.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n26sm327722ele.15.2008.05.30.13.44.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 30 May 2008 13:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48406735.8070506@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:44:37 -0300 From: Oren Almog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Vmware debugging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 21:12:17 -0000 I have question regarding remote debugging a freebsd guest OS (running on vmware). Is to possible to debug such a machine by a non FreeBSD OS using a gdb version that was compiled with target=i386-pc-bsd ? Or must i use two virtual machines, both of them running FreeBSD ? Thanks Oren From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 21:22:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655AE106568E for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 21:22:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [66.119.213.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571998FC29 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 21:22:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from ruby.owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m4UL4pZW027869; Fri, 30 May 2008 14:04:51 -0700 From: Kent Organization: owt.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 14:04:51 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <483F9115.4010903@pixelhammer.com> <20080530190416.GA7251@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20080530190416.GA7251@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200805301404.51880.kstewart@owt.com> Cc: DAve , Gary Kline Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 21:22:07 -0000 On Friday 30 May 2008 12:04:16 pm Gary Kline wrote: > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 01:31:01AM -0400, DAve wrote: > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >>-----Original Message----- > > >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gary Kline > > > > I nearly spit coffee on my keyboard! I agree with you 100%. When we all > > did HTML with BBedit and Textpad, people like Black, Tog, and Nielsen > > kept everyone designing websites to best serve the content. Now it is > > all about the sizzle, but there is rarely a steak. > > > > DAve > > You got it, man. At least 80% of the site I happen on--at least > that are selling something--have so much kerrapp going on I'd go > blind if I stayed there for very long. (I so *enjoy* being able > to block ads or stop-movie (gnash), and then find the router or > DVD or whatever. And get out!) I hate the over use of flash and etc. I sometimes think that is similar to putting a pdf file on a website instead of using txt. It bypasses some of the quirks and you see what they want you to see. > > This is not the kind of page i'M aiming for. --But then, I > really don't know what/how I want to revise my www homepage. I use Adobe's GoLive but they killed it for Dreamweaver. If it had been a modest upgrade price, I would have upgraded but I didn't. > > The reason for the strange display was a bad comment. So at > least I've learned something! Now www looks fine from ffox, > opera, and Konq. I've forbidden my tweenager from using IE so > have to wait for wife. Or see if friends reply who use IE. > I have IE 7, Firefox, Seamonkey, and Safari on my main XP machine. I can't see any obvious difference. I also can't see any obvious difference between Firefox and Konqueror on FreeBSD and the XP browsers. FWIW, IE seems to complain on many of the sites I visit. It has a little comment on the status bar to the effect of completed but with errors. I didn't see it on your site. Kent From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 21:42:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC60F106567B for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 21:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from catalin@starcomms.com) Received: from webmail.starcomms.com (starcomms.com [41.205.191.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 766A38FC1C for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 21:42:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from catalin@starcomms.com) Received: from (webmail.starcomms.com [172.16.2.31]) by webmail.starcomms.com with smtp id 1817_33107094_2e91_11dd_9b57_001143cecab4; Fri, 30 May 2008 22:41:44 +0100 Received: from STA-HQ-S001.starcomms.local ([172.16.2.28]) by webmail.starcomms.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 30 May 2008 22:47:01 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 22:47:04 +0100 Message-ID: <3A0AA7018522134597ED63B3B794C92A0203551E@STA-HQ-S001.starcomms.local> In-Reply-To: <484061A9.6050201@datapipe.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Need to build a new mail server Thread-Index: AcjClVs7FBIyJdnjT0CmqXYmDiZ9YAABxP0A References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com><483FAD90.6010101@extracktor.com> <484013A7.6020507@mikestammer.com> <48401F97.9010003@pixelhammer.com><54db43990805301309q6345aa6dy78546deda8327293@mail.gmail.com> <484061A9.6050201@datapipe.com> From: "Catalin Miclaus" To: Cc: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 May 2008 21:47:01.0671 (UTC) FILETIME=[B1629B70:01C8C29E] Subject: RE: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 21:42:01 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Paul Procacci Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:21 PM To: Bob Johnson Cc: DAve; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server Bob Johnson wrote: > On 5/30/08, DAve wrote: > =20 >> Eric Zimmerman wrote: >> =20 >>> Foo JH wrote: >>> =20 >>>> I like Qmail. It's not overly difficult to configure, and it's >>>> extensible. >>>> >>>> =20 >>> and requires 400 patches to do basic things =3D( >>> =20 ~Paul http://shearer.org/MTA_Comparison Which MTA you will chose is only your choice. I will vote for Postfix. Best Regards, Catalin Miclaus Network/Security ISP-Data Starcomms Ltd. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 22:19:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A69D106564A for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 22:19:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [207.115.11.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1938FC19 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 22:19:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from [10.5.21.122] (adsl-19-255-222.bna.bellsouth.net[68.19.255.222]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with ESMTP id <20080530221952H0100b9i5pe>; Fri, 30 May 2008 22:19:52 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [68.19.255.222] Message-ID: <48407D64.2030009@datapipe.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:19:16 -0500 From: Paul Procacci User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Catalin Miclaus References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com><483FAD90.6010101@extracktor.com> <484013A7.6020507@mikestammer.com> <48401F97.9010003@pixelhammer.com><54db43990805301309q6345aa6dy78546deda8327293@mail.gmail.com> <484061A9.6050201@datapipe.com> <3A0AA7018522134597ED63B3B794C92A0203551E@STA-HQ-S001.starcomms.local> In-Reply-To: <3A0AA7018522134597ED63B3B794C92A0203551E@STA-HQ-S001.starcomms.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 22:19:53 -0000 Catalin Miclaus wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Paul Procacci > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:21 PM > To: Bob Johnson > Cc: DAve; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server > > Bob Johnson wrote: > >> On 5/30/08, DAve wrote: >> >> >>> Eric Zimmerman wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Foo JH wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I like Qmail. It's not overly difficult to configure, and it's >>>>> extensible. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> and requires 400 patches to do basic things =( >>>> >>>> > ~Paul > > > > http://shearer.org/MTA_Comparison > > Which MTA you will chose is only your choice. > I will vote for Postfix. > > > > > > Best Regards, > Catalin Miclaus > Network/Security ISP-Data > Starcomms Ltd. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I must say, that's a pretty good article. Cheers for sharing it even if it is a tad outdated, it mostly sums everything up quite nicely. ~Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 22:55:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E84910656A9 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 22:55:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve.lake@raiden.net) Received: from dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net (dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net [69.51.138.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF248FC3C for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 22:55:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve.lake@raiden.net) Received: from works.raiden.net (works [192.168.0.3]) by dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net (8.13.1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m4UMuPNh005456 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 18:56:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from steve.lake@raiden.net) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20080530185311.00c42f60@192.168.0.30> X-Sender: megosdog@192.168.0.30 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 19:08:20 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Steve Lake Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 22:55:22 -0000 Hi everyone. I was wondering if anybody here might be interested in writing and donating a few Freebsd tutorials or articles to Raiden's Realm to help us boost the number of Freebsd related articles on the site. A lot of what we have is Linux oriented right now because most of the people there are Linux oriented. I'm one of the few who's Freebsd oriented. And since my goal is to help people learn both Linux and Freebsd, I'm looking for people willing to help out by writing long or short tutorials on doing a variety of simple and complex tasks in Freebsd. The site is completely non-profit and is very new user oriented. I've even written a number of tutorials over the past couple of years focusing on several things involving Freebsd, from setting up a firewall, a workstation, and a file and mail server, to exploring the heart of Freebsd in order to help draw new users into our world. But my knowledge only goes so far, and I've seen that you guys really have a lot of great knowledge and information to share and if possible, I'd love to see a few of you share that knowledge through articles and tutorials on my site. My simple goal is to help people, and to promote Freebsd (well, and Linux too. hehe) as much as I can to new users. If anyone's willing to help, please let me know, or just shoot me something whenever you get the time. I'm not trying to beg or anything, but rather I'm trying to encourage others here to help new users through the web. Not everyone will know about this mailing list, or want to sign up to it. There's a lot of lurkers out there these days, and if you have a good tutorial or article posted on a website, it'll improve the chances of them hearing and learning about Freebsd. Thanks for taking the time to read this. And if you can help out, I'd appreciate it. Also, I'm not advertising the site. Just asking for some help. Since open source is about sharing, it only stands to reason that some sharing can and should be done as well on the web. :) Steven Lake Owner/Technical Writer Raiden's Realm www.raiden.net Bringing Linux and BSD to the World From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 23:25:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035F5106566C for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 23:25:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from bulwark.hamla.org (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053438FC0C for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 23:25:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (bulwark [69.55.228.210]) by bulwark.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559D51CD32; Fri, 30 May 2008 16:25:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at bulwark.hamla.org Received: from bulwark.hamla.org ([69.55.228.210]) by localhost (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id B8K+z+MCqmSq; Fri, 30 May 2008 16:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 19:25:44 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: Steve Lake Message-ID: <20080530232544.GB50370@shepherd> Mail-Followup-To: Steve Lake , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5.2.0.9.2.20080530185311.00c42f60@192.168.0.30> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20080530185311.00c42f60@192.168.0.30> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 23:25:52 -0000 Steve Lake wrote: > Hi everyone. I was wondering if anybody here might be interested > in writing and donating a few Freebsd tutorials or articles to Raiden's > Realm to help us boost the number of Freebsd related articles on the site. > A lot of what we have is Linux oriented right now because most of the > people there are Linux oriented. I'm one of the few who's Freebsd > oriented. And since my goal is to help people learn both Linux and > Freebsd, I'm looking for people willing to help out by writing long or > short tutorials on doing a variety of simple and complex tasks in Freebsd. These type of tutorials already exist on the FreeBSD web site. There is a Handbook which contains links to various articles. Also, there is a section designed specifically for the "newbies" to which your site caters: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html [...] -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 23:48:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E331065670 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 23:48:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6CBFA8FC1B for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 23:48:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 96525 invoked by uid 89); 30 May 2008 19:48:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by v6.ibctech.ca with ESMTPA; 30 May 2008 19:48:42 -0000 Message-ID: <484091CA.1010708@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 19:46:18 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Lake References: <5.2.0.9.2.20080530185311.00c42f60@192.168.0.30> In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20080530185311.00c42f60@192.168.0.30> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 23:48:13 -0000 > Thanks for taking the time to read this. And if you can help > out, I'd appreciate it. Also, I'm not advertising the site. Just > asking for some help. Since open source is about sharing, it only > stands to reason that some sharing can and should be done as well on the > web. :) The majority of people on this list help immensely. Most of the work and documentation regarding FreeBSD that has been produced by anyone reading this list can be found publicly by your best friend... http://google.ca ...or, for those inclined: http://google.com/bsd Good luck with your site ;) Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 00:51:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC4D1065675 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 00:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F0E8FC17 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 00:51:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K2FJn-0003d3-Px; Sat, 31 May 2008 01:51:35 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id m4V0pX7X027426; Sat, 31 May 2008 01:51:34 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A1DB7FCA4AF; Sat, 31 May 2008 01:51:28 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 01:51:28 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20080531005128.GA44344@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Ted Mittelstaedt , Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20080529221421.GD62524@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Sat, 31 May 2008 01:51:35 +0100 (BST) Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 00:51:41 -0000 On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:07:56PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gary Kline [mailto:kline@thought.org] > > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 3:14 PM > > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > > Cc: Kevin Downey; FreeBSD Mailing List > > Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. > > > > > > > > Chill down a bit, okay? first, (as the OP), i did not know > > thaat there was *this** great a disparity in thee rendering > > between classes of browsers. i used to stick pretty close > > to the w3.org (or whatever it was). i didn't think the > > difference extended to how the
stuff was parsed. > > > > Gary, the problem is that the majority of people out there use > IE, most IE7, but still a lot of IE6, and a few deihards IE5. > > Then there are the older versions of Safari on the Mac - there's > still a lot of Mac's around that are running 10.2 believe it or > not, and those came with MS IE for the Mac which -really- munges > some pages. And Safari for Windows - which is a bit different than > Safari on the Mac. > > And then there are all the Unix browsers. > > There are some test programs that can help. But the validators > can tell you your code is right and it still will display differently > in some of the browsers. The only way to do it is to do what > the pros do - which is have all the different systems available > and load their pages in those browsers. I test my pages with IE7, Safari on XP and Firefox on FreeBSD. Fixing problems with IE6 or anything else is too much to expect from amateur pages (which mine are). > > Telling people "my site is fine your browser is fucked, get a > better one" is the mark of an amateur who is also being extremely > presumptive. It's the old "do it my way or fuck off" You forget that Gary is an amateur. Hence, any complaints can be dealt with "they validate, F off and get a better browser". (When he gets round to making them validate :) > > This is what Microsoft tells people - and most FreeBSDers and > Linux people claim they are on the moral high ground because they > aren't forcing their stuff down people's throats - that is, > until they create a webpage and then they have no problem forcing > software down people's throats to see it, I guess.... I can't see anything wrong with telling people to use better software, you're doing them a favour! It's obviously different if you're writing pages for a commercial site. You should still write pages that validate and there are various hacks you can use with CSS, the DOM and Javscript to make your pages appear OK in older broken browsers...and newer ones with bugs. > > Ted Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 01:38:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184221065675 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 01:38:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from entwistle.sonicboom.org (entwistle.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDAB68FC17 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 01:38:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.sonicboom.org [127.0.0.1]) by entwistle.sonicboom.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4V1cW1I055559; Fri, 30 May 2008 18:38:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Message-ID: <4840AC17.4090608@brianwhalen.net> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 18:38:31 -0700 From: Brian User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Johnson References: <54db43990805300820na3be361hf9cba1b8820a75ef@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54db43990805300820na3be361hf9cba1b8820a75ef@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gilles , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Renaming "root" to "homer"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 01:38:36 -0000 Has denyhosts been recommended yet, or an sshd port change? Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 01:50:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8B91065675 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 01:50:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D518FC14 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 01:50:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4V1oWPt086275; Fri, 30 May 2008 18:50:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 18:50:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 18:50:27 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Kent Message-ID: <20080531015027.GA20420@thought.org> References: <483F9115.4010903@pixelhammer.com> <20080530190416.GA7251@thought.org> <200805301404.51880.kstewart@owt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200805301404.51880.kstewart@owt.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: DAve , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 01:50:33 -0000 On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 02:04:51PM -0700, Kent wrote: > On Friday 30 May 2008 12:04:16 pm Gary Kline wrote: > > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 01:31:01AM -0400, DAve wrote: > > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > >>-----Original Message----- > > > >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gary Kline > > > > > > I nearly spit coffee on my keyboard! I agree with you 100%. When we all > > > did HTML with BBedit and Textpad, people like Black, Tog, and Nielsen > > > kept everyone designing websites to best serve the content. Now it is > > > all about the sizzle, but there is rarely a steak. > > > > > > DAve > > > > You got it, man. At least 80% of the site I happen on--at least > > that are selling something--have so much kerrapp going on I'd go > > blind if I stayed there for very long. (I so *enjoy* being able > > to block ads or stop-movie (gnash), and then find the router or > > DVD or whatever. And get out!) > > I hate the over use of flash and etc. I sometimes think that is similar to > putting a pdf file on a website instead of using txt. It bypasses some of the > quirks and you see what they want you to see. > > > > > This is not the kind of page i'M aiming for. --But then, I > > really don't know what/how I want to revise my www homepage. > > I use Adobe's GoLive but they killed it for Dreamweaver. If it had been a > modest upgrade price, I would have upgraded but I didn't. > > > > > The reason for the strange display was a bad comment. So at > > least I've learned something! Now www looks fine from ffox, > > opera, and Konq. I've forbidden my tweenager from using IE so > > have to wait for wife. Or see if friends reply who use IE. > > > > I have IE 7, Firefox, Seamonkey, and Safari on my main XP machine. I can't see > any obvious difference. I also can't see any obvious difference between > Firefox and Konqueror on FreeBSD and the XP browsers. > > FWIW, IE seems to complain on many of the sites I visit. It has a little > comment on the status bar to the effect of completed but with errors. I > didn't see it on your site. Thw "bad comment" I was referring to was a markup comment: My blunder was It wiped out a lot of stuff that firefox displayed correctly, possibly talking the EOL as the close-of-comment. ...Sometimes I wonder about myself! gary > > Kent -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 01:53:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFB31065672 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 01:53:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from turnerlit@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9D18FC0A for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 01:53:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from turnerlit@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so369983fkk.11 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 18:53:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=TiNDvUu8k8nOmI6innAZUiMVTXIEQI5CjLHw3eTI834=; b=ZJH0MNbV9LiZL02L8Oly0XTFFHM1XNV0DIfSxPRDWRxNjSi9nbuhkoov0zVvh9j0ZlKjqkdN4OxZrE3dJoK9uj/YWtVhzV2wowCyMBs7h6LwcsEp80zr8WTIhR3g7mpcaZ2hEQFpWcGzw1qwsBLn4yKsj5JxcqvPszB4Oof9rT0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Q4gusJoGohgdSKA5DMsyRJydmKuRHlt3D9tdXrDUt+jDM2vcgmOEFrKwbMGB/ezEx++BaWkhwPtrCEIjOeKrmu4P2JEbSSczLld4HQSrynqZ4ktiWmvTgwDKogAnPRA6mdbr2ZUyaRNIhtB4itbmuEU/jW0neOzkazuKPeDv/Yc= Received: by 10.78.198.14 with SMTP id v14mr736509huf.115.1212197306316; Fri, 30 May 2008 18:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.50.14 with HTTP; Fri, 30 May 2008 18:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 18:28:26 -0700 From: "Turner Litigation Services" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: ssh - connect to directory outside of /user/home - permission denied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 01:53:25 -0000 How do you allow ssh to permit connections to a folder outside of the /home folder of the user loggin in to ssh? For example, i want to sync two folders (using unison) on different machines and need to ssh to the remote folder .. but the folder is a shared folder outside of my home folder (i.e. /user/data/pub). ssh [username]@[servername] works to get me into the user folder and I can cd to the folder I need to access (and have proper perms there) But, I need to connect to the folder directly to use unison (file/directory synchronization tool). ssh [username]@[severname] /usr/data/pub/ gives permission denied errors. I've heard the directory path needs to be relative to the home path but the following does not work either: ssh [username]@[servername] ../../../usr/data/pub/ (where the default directory for ssh logins is /usr/home/[username]/.) I've tried formatting variations of the above themes to no avail and suspect there's a setting somewhere to allow what directories ssh connections can be made to, or creating a link in [users] home directory to the public directory. Your help would be appreciated. -- Turner Litigation Services POB 319 Eureka, CA 95502 Tel. (707) 496-9666 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 02:03:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907101065670 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 02:03:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9438FC16 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 02:02:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K2GQs-0006Ig-Nl; Sat, 31 May 2008 03:02:58 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id m4V22vSW002663; Sat, 31 May 2008 03:02:58 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C1909FCA4AF; Sat, 31 May 2008 03:02:52 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 03:02:52 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Bob Johnson Message-ID: <20080531020252.GB44404@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Bob Johnson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> <483FAD90.6010101@extracktor.com> <484013A7.6020507@mikestammer.com> <48401F97.9010003@pixelhammer.com> <54db43990805301309q6345aa6dy78546deda8327293@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <54db43990805301309q6345aa6dy78546deda8327293@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Sat, 31 May 2008 03:02:58 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 02:03:00 -0000 On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 04:09:25PM -0400, Bob Johnson wrote: > > > I agree. No one should use Qmail unless they have read and completely > understand every email-related RFC and have at least two years of > experience running a commercial mail server. Amateurs shouldn't even > consider it. I used Qmail for the best part of 10 years as an amateur. It was moderately hard for me to first set up, it required me to read a lot of docs and manpages but no RFCs. I compiled and installed from source. It was still easier than Sendmail back then. It was install and forget. I started with qmail-1.03 and finished with qmail-1.03. I didn't like the FreeBSD port, so when I got my new domain I switched to Postfix. > > Please, use anything but Qmail. It sprays backscatter spam all over > the internet. Nonsense. As a receiver of backscatter on one of my domains running into thousands, I can tell you most of it comes from misconfigured anti-spam systems. More rarely from MTAs of all varieties. As to the original posters question, he should stick to Sendmail on the assumption he already knows it, as it's part of the base system. If he's looking for something else, then Postfix is pretty simple to set up (good docs at it's homesite) and has a good security record. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 02:07:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 500AA106567A for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 02:07:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from penoff@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37FDE8FC23 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 02:07:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from penoff@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so129245rvf.43 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 19:07:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=5g8QNVUWk/jot7y7V3L1izd5QRFsOlYA0hNYH+vsphI=; b=U/IqwVfsdBsoTHKDL1SY3AZeqvxWm0hyU5jUlwX+9ISQwCI2/i8wXf7Lsb5zn3tLL7sr/FO/2YKouNdoIMxt+BqJhZIqRVhf2jfxTbyElS3BX/XSQL9KrXHMH7ZYdZEqVCqQAHlPtqgz3iovV/rmwZgVrom+iUkzj1w6965HPPI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=enU34hqJwUzpxX6/R4fTrJM6g2h98+0FEg784p4XXStAfotE4mlcy2s1zSaubpTz2sTHGitFj0B1V57UPdAcXEXc4kOZzW6mVg4zRUOwL3MZYbPT1C+O2onHbR1Ve8hG5K3WmOM9FwdlhPNNZd8a3qXODJqKVSjfyjpTv6EDUOQ= Received: by 10.140.166.21 with SMTP id o21mr3482665rve.167.1212199626614; Fri, 30 May 2008 19:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.113.14 with HTTP; Fri, 30 May 2008 19:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 19:07:06 -0700 From: "Brad Penoff" Sender: penoff@gmail.com To: "Joshua Isom" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080520165437.36413c46.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20080521090919.e3e777ec.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20080521133645.e327ffdf.wmoran@potentialtech.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 24f1aa9394e57e06 Cc: Bill Moran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: resident memory limit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 02:07:07 -0000 On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Joshua Isom wrote: > > On May 21, 2008, at 12:36 PM, Bill Moran wrote: > >> In response to "Brad Penoff" : >>> >>> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 6:09 AM, Bill Moran >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> In response to "Brad Penoff" : >>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Brad Penoff wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Bill Moran >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In response to "Brad Penoff" : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have an application that runs on Linux or Mac OS X but seems to >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> a problem when I run on FreeBSD (6.3 or 7). The issue is the memory >>>>>>>> footprint for the application (osubw_sctpclien below) is quite >>>>>>>> large; >>>>>>>> on Linux it can be as much as 950 MB in resident memory, according >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> top. However, on FreeBSD I start to get ENOMEM always around the >>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>> my resident memory size is about 200 MB. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I read a few posts and have seen people fixing their problems by >>>>>>>> adjusting kern.maxdsiz in /boot/loader.conf and/or by adding a swap >>>>>>>> file. I've tried both and for my application, it still seems to be >>>>>>>> limited to 200 MB resident memory regardless of maxdsize and swap >>>>>>>> file >>>>>>>> setting. I wrote a toy application (malloctest below) that calls >>>>>>>> malloc in a while(1) and breaks once it gets ENOMEM (doing another >>>>>>>> while(1) so it doesn't exit); this application's memory size in top >>>>>>>> always matches the kern.maxdsiz setting, however it has a very low >>>>>>>> resident memory number, according to top. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have a look at /etc/login.conf and the associated man pages. >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> BTW, we've seen the exact behavior on FreeBSD 7 as well (6.3 was >>>>> reported here). We've tried on different hardware as well, and keep >>>>> getting haunted by this resident memory limit that we don't know how >>>>> to set. >>>>> >>>>> Any idea why, in the data I originally reported, I can allocate >>>>> kern.maxdsiz + swap (see SIZE from top output) for malloc(1 MB) in a >>>>> while loop, yet the top value for RES is always really low? >>>>> >>>>> How come, in contrast, my application starts to report ENOMEM when >>>>> SIZE is 203 MB and RES is 201 MB? This is why I titled the thread >>>>> asking about an unknown (to me ;-) limit for resident memory... >>>> >>>> It's called memory overcommit. If the OS thinks it _might_ be able >>>> to get you the memory, it will allow it. You only actually use the >>>> memory when you start putting data in it (hence the difference between >>>> SIZE and RES) Add a statement to fill up the malloc()ed memory with >>>> some sort of data in your loop, and you'll see different behaviour. >>>> >>>> As to what's limiting your application, I'm not sure. What does the >>>> output of 'ulimit -a' say? >>>> >>> >>> Thanks again for your time. >>> >>> >>> With the default loader.conf, my "limit -a" output is: >>> >>> Resource limits (current): >>> cputime infinity secs >>> filesize infinity kB >>> datasize 524288 kB >>> stacksize 65536 kB >>> coredumpsize infinity kB >>> memoryuse infinity kB >>> memorylocked infinity kB >>> maxprocesses 5547 >>> openfiles 11095 >>> sbsize infinity bytes >>> vmemoryuse infinity kB >>> >>> My application starts getting ENOMEM when I have 201 MB of resident >>> memory. >>> >>> >>> >>> When I change my loader.conf to match the 2 GB of physical memory that I >>> have: >>> kern.maxdsiz="2147483648" >>> kern.maxssiz="2147483648" >>> kern.dfldsiz="2147483648" >>> >>> ...and reboot, then my "limit -a" output is: >>> >>> Resource limits (current): >>> cputime infinity secs >>> filesize infinity kB >>> datasize 2097152 kB >>> stacksize 2097152 kB >>> coredumpsize infinity kB >>> memoryuse infinity kB >>> memorylocked infinity kB >>> maxprocesses 5547 >>> openfiles 11095 >>> sbsize infinity bytes >>> vmemoryuse infinity kB >>> >>> >>> However, the application still seems to max out at 201 MB of resident >>> memory. >>> >>> >>> People suggest to fix my login.conf but the memory related fields are >>> set to unlimited... Any ideas where this 201 MB limit of resident >>> memory comes from? >> >> That's pretty strange. If I had to guess, I would guess that there is no >> 201M limit, but that you're hitting some other limit that just happens to >> predictably occur at 201M with that program. >> >> I'm kind of grasping at straws here, so hopefully I won't lead you on a >> wild goose chase, but I would look next at putting some debugging in >> /etc/malloc.conf and seeing if you get any useful information from it >> (see the malloc man page). From there, possibly a ktrace of the process. >> Hopefully you have source code for the program and can compile it with >> debugging and run it under gdb. >> >> -- >> Bill Moran >> http://www.potentialtech.com >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> I'm still playing around with malloc.conf and ktrace, searching for answers (I'll report if I find any) but in the meantime, I'll try to answer your questions... > > Here's a question I haven't seen asked yet. How much memory is it trying to allocate? If it can't get everything it's asking for it can fail. This same application runs on both Mac OS X and Linux. On Linux, the maximum memory demands shown in "top" were VIRT=955MB RES=929MB. This was actually on a machine with only 1 GB of RAM. This same program starts getting ENOMEM on FreeBSD on a machine with 2 GB of RAM when RES is 201 MB; the same occurs on FreeBSD on a machine with 1 GB of RAM (same HW as Linux). On FreeBSD, I can run a dummy program that calls malloc in a loop essential until the value of SIZE on "top" (same as VIRT in Linux) is kern.maxdsiz (which I set to 2GB in loader.conf). > Also, how is the application being started? There could be some setting in the shell startup that's putting a limit. I run it as root which uses /bin/csh . I did a chsh as root to bash and retried the same app but still reached the same magic 201 MB limit. > Is it a native FreeBSD program or is it a linux executable running under simulation? It's a native FreeBSD program. brad From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 02:21:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F307C1065676 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 02:21:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scriper@mail.ru) Received: from mx30.mail.ru (mx30.mail.ru [194.67.23.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C87B68FC17 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 02:21:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scriper@mail.ru) Received: from [90.189.14.158] (port=15757 helo=localhost) by mx30.mail.ru with asmtp id 1K2Gin-000GIA-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 06:21:30 +0400 Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 10:34:57 +0800 From: "Nickolay D. Hodyunya" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080531023457.GA44853@stdcall.ate.loc> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline X-Comment-To: "Nickolay D. Hodyunya" User-Agent: mutt-devel X-Mailer: See User-Agent above :) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE X-PGP-Public-Key: http://NoPubKeyAtTheMom X-Useless-Header: Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK Subject: climm 0.6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 02:21:32 -0000 Hi, i have so troubles with climm icq client. I've got some errors on startup, here they are: >Opening v8 connection to login.icq.com:5190 for 492618933... >Opening scripting FIFO at /home/scriper/.climm/scripting... ok. >Redirect to server 64.12.24.60:5190... >Unknown family requested: 37 >#Unknown type 32: ICQ-MDIR 0 1. and all users on contact list are shown as offline. -- Regards, Nickolay D. Hodyunya. mailto: scriper@mail.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 03:03:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79370106567D for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 03:03:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ruel.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47EA18FC14 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 03:03:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ruel.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 3so59476ywj.61 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 20:03:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=QOYpeKoUrWhb5YtzYa/ZxGsnfrnxFDe/Cf3WFL7VBR8=; b=OEU8Or9ZjijhEMZf0lFxBBi2cE9PNZ5K/cGCNdKGn/e6l+KPX80wL0ENRD/AC9L1rekQu7MGl6WAgzEbNkbWF/m5vaKG3cgMHiKS3xPhb9dQMmmkLJBIOQFFOCyLtI3e7V0iflLlpQ5dqpoR7jGuJ2cwQJt/Gk8Hg7YJO3cj9Dg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=AQzFmerBTGCyqzmjtEGE9DXJqllnq7jwIH+BwkaS4Mf/bbQ2wFHV9fHQcH9sq26ZYdwMum7NDZDm2ftwB2OmBWPGIjllyr8kYQcaPNAPM519miXX4y087Me154sD0HhgKvkkn7BDe7oOH+Rw4EQF8VYxoPEPc0K+utaqibRVKhg= Received: by 10.151.40.3 with SMTP id s3mr16527ybj.101.1212203027506; Fri, 30 May 2008 20:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.97.21 with HTTP; Fri, 30 May 2008 20:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 11:03:47 +0800 From: "Ruel Luchavez" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Redirect email account in freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 03:03:49 -0000 ALL Hi, I dont know if its right to post my problem here.. How would you redirect an email account? Lets put it in this way, we have an existing account namely account1@pro.com ,account2@pro.com and account3@pro.com what i want is when someone send and email to account1 only (no cc: or bcc: from sender) , account3 can also receive the message being sent to account1? is it possible? I'm using the Thunderbird. I hope someone answers my question, i would really appreciate it. Thanks. FREEBSD Rocks... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 03:09:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5491065671 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 03:09:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E04728FC14 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 03:09:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4V39Cll086675; Fri, 30 May 2008 20:09:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 20:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 20:09:08 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Steve Lake Message-ID: <20080531030907.GC20420@thought.org> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20080530185311.00c42f60@192.168.0.30> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20080530185311.00c42f60@192.168.0.30> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 03:09:16 -0000 On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 07:08:20PM -0400, Steve Lake wrote: > Hi everyone. I was wondering if anybody here might be interested > in writing and donating a few Freebsd tutorials or articles to Raiden's > Realm to help us boost the number of Freebsd related articles on the > site. A lot of what we have is Linux oriented right now because most of > the people there are Linux oriented. I'm one of the few who's Freebsd > oriented. And since my goal is to help people learn both Linux and > Freebsd, I'm looking for people willing to help out by writing long or > short tutorials on doing a variety of simple and complex tasks in Freebsd. > > The site is completely non-profit and is very new user > oriented. I've even written a number of tutorials over the past couple of > years focusing on several things involving Freebsd, from setting up a > firewall, a workstation, and a file and mail server, to exploring the heart > of Freebsd in order to help draw new users into our world. But my > knowledge only goes so far, and I've seen that you guys really have a lot > of great knowledge and information to share and if possible, I'd love to > see a few of you share that knowledge through articles and tutorials on my > site. > > My simple goal is to help people, and to promote Freebsd (well, > and Linux too. hehe) as much as I can to new users. If anyone's willing > to help, please let me know, or just shoot me something whenever you get > the time. I'm not trying to beg or anything, but rather I'm trying to > encourage others here to help new users through the web. Not everyone will > know about this mailing list, or want to sign up to it. There's a lot of > lurkers out there these days, and if you have a good tutorial or article > posted on a website, it'll improve the chances of them hearing and learning > about Freebsd. > > Thanks for taking the time to read this. And if you can help out, > I'd appreciate it. Also, I'm not advertising the site. Just asking for > some help. Since open source is about sharing, it only stands to reason > that some sharing can and should be done as well on the web. :) > Hi Steve, Several years back I was lead-writer on the "AnswerMan" help column. It was directed mostly at new users of the BSD's and aimed primarily at FreeBSD. We published several tutorial-like Q's and A's bi-monthly. Were heading into our 7th year before the column fell apart. Long-story-short, all the contributors gave permission to re-use the contents, so feel free to google up the stuff and use what you deem usable. cheers, gary kline > > Steven Lake > Owner/Technical Writer > Raiden's Realm > www.raiden.net > Bringing Linux and BSD to the World > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 03:55:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ADB4106566B for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 03:55:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D83D8FC1C for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 03:55:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 7647493; Fri, 30 May 2008 23:55:23 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 7647491; Fri, 30 May 2008 23:55:04 -0400 Message-ID: <4840CC17.8040502@radel.com> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 23:55:03 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ruel Luchavez References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms080302060903050106020300" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Redirect email account in freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 03:55:24 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080302060903050106020300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ruel Luchavez wrote: > ALL Hi, > > I dont know if its right to post my problem here.. > Yes. > How would you redirect an email account? > Lets put it in this way, we have an existing account namely account1@pro.com > ,account2@pro.com and account3@pro.com what i want is > when someone send and email to account1 only (no cc: or bcc: from sender) , > account3 can also receive the message being sent > to account1? is it possible? > If you're using sendmail (the default mail server in FreeBSD), probably the easiest way is to edit /etc/mail/aliases and put the following line in the file: account1: \account1, account3 and then run the newaliases command. While this will not send account3 two copies of e-mail that the sender sent to both account1 and account3, it will not check that account1 is the only recipient. If you need to strictly check that there are no cc: or bcc: recipients, I suspect you will have to install something more sophisticated, such as procmail from ports. > I'm using the Thunderbird. Or, you could set up rules in Thunderbird to do the forwarding from there. 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owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 04:01:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4621065676 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 04:01:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: from mail.phantombsd.org (mail.phantombsd.org [74.94.69.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CFA8FC0C for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 04:01:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.phantombsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8430411A0003 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 20:43:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.307 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.307 tagged_above=-10 required=4 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, AWL=0.092, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.phantombsd.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.phantombsd.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2JtbR6fSOixJ for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 20:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.phantombsd.org (tomcat.phantombsd.org [192.168.1.2]) by mail.phantombsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA1211A0002 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 20:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 20:43:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Casey Scott To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <9985990.181212205411544.JavaMail.root@tomcat.phantombsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [192.168.1.6] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.5_GA_2201.RHEL5 (ZimbraWebClient - FF2.0 (Win)/5.0.5_GA_2201.RHEL5) Subject: 7.0 upgrade compile error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 04:01:17 -0000 I am trying to upgrade from 6.3 to 7.0. With latest source, buildworld dies with: ... /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c: In function 'uw_install_context_1': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1472: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1480: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'memcpy' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1486: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'memcpy' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1490: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'memcpy' In file included from /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1518: /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc: In function '_Unwind_RaiseException_Phase2': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc:75: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc: In function '_Unwind_Resume': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc:238: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc: In function '_Unwind_Resume_or_Rethrow': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc:263: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc. *** Error code 1 I am not sure what to do about this! Any suggestions? TIA, Casey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 04:06:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69AD21065670 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 04:06:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01898FC13 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 04:06:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl66-17.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.113.17]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-1) with ESMTP id m4V45qhx022638 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 31 May 2008 07:05:59 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4V45pIM003369; Sat, 31 May 2008 07:05:51 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m4V45ofR003368; Sat, 31 May 2008 07:05:50 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: DAve References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> <483FAD90.6010101@extracktor.com> <484013A7.6020507@mikestammer.com> <48401F97.9010003@pixelhammer.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 07:05:49 +0300 In-Reply-To: <48401F97.9010003@pixelhammer.com> (DAve's message of "Fri, 30 May 2008 11:39:03 -0400") Message-ID: <87zlq73yoy.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: m4V45qhx022638 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.784, required 5, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.61, BAYES_00 -2.60, BODY_ENHANCEMENT2 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 04:06:20 -0000 On Fri, 30 May 2008 11:39:03 -0400, DAve wrote: > Eric Zimmerman wrote: >> heres some interesting reading about qmail... >> http://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/~ma/qmail-bugs.html > > That so much time and effort is spent telling everyone how bad qmail > is still amazes me. It is one of the best performing and most > extensible MTAs I have ever used. It is not however, suitable for > those who choose not to understand how mail works. Point and clickers > should stay with Postfix, also a very capable MTA. This freebsd-questions thread is approaching a low signal/noise ratio very very fast. MTAs are a hotly debated subject, and they tend to spark the flames of a religious war *very* fast. Can we _please_ try to steer this discussion back on track, and actually _help_ the original poster, instead of showing that in a dick size war we can definitely 'win' by our elite administrator skillz? Please? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 04:13:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C449A1065672 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 04:13:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 708A48FC0A for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 04:13:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 37392 invoked by uid 60001); 31 May 2008 04:13:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=NB+VEErdZeornX8IQMh/jZyi8ZgWn90ucHmBNDzXwQiDGKqfLUqrqrKpEmY/DEWWjc4iXlJ2YiHr+zB0Y/FHj0Dm1x+SJM2VwmfPEaQ+/38mm/0aagySQoWMRSWHLWYIZoAJuiWxhWtujN0dzmZQecEyB0ry4uckGod9V+gaPHI=; X-YMail-OSG: UO83Z9sVM1m6JsK1_M_a8TPpQ7atKBy2DPv9J92vw65BoK_Mgmzf_CiVNZ0dl9_hki9.pfX6Mf5k0IY58NI_0t6CdPvW2eVagpH24L9bCCh4_lzAFvRfgcKHhbA- Received: from [165.21.154.117] by web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 30 May 2008 21:13:45 PDT Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 21:13:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Unga To: Steve Lake In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20080530185311.00c42f60@192.168.0.30> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <258326.33866.qm@web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 04:13:46 -0000 "Raiden's Realm is a community tech site dedicated to helping people learn about Linux, BSD, and open source software." - WHO WE ARE, www.raiden.net. If you are honest for your site's objective, appreciate if could drop the penguin from the site's logo without a delay. It clearly shows your bias. Regards Unga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 04:29:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8B21065772 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 04:29:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260868FC29 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 04:29:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4V4T305087074; Fri, 30 May 2008 21:29:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 21:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 21:28:58 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080531042858.GA23329@thought.org> References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> <4a89d1190805290039k1f2dedb1he342b4a83d7453a6@mail.gmail.com> <200805291305.22567.kline@thought.org> <20080529220536.GA39115@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20080530023902.GF62524@thought.org> <20080530204950.GA43574@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080530204950.GA43574@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, FB_WORD1_END_DOLLAR autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 04:29:06 -0000 On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 09:49:50PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote: > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 07:39:02PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > Questions on validation.... > > > > > 4. > > > > > > Steal a simple page that validates: > > > > > > http://www.shute.org.uk/miscellany.html > > > > > > and use it as a template to hack on. Steal the style sheet too. > > > > > > Validate your webpage as you go along with the w3c validator. > > When I typed in www.thought.org/x.html AFTER having fixed the , there were still 30 faults. The one that really got me was because that one looked 100$ correct. I deleted the META tags; no difference. (( x.html == index.php )). I left the "doctype" on auto and the validator.w3.org couldn't parse my "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en" markup. The err: "the Document Type (-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en) is not in the validator's catalog" The index.php and index.html are identical except for the php entry. Any guesses why things like this blowup:: <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en" > <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Thought Unlimited: www.thought.org > > > > > > > > 5. > > > > > > A few tips: > > > > > > Use
's for layout, not tables. > > > > > > i cannot // hhaven't made sense of
since I first saw it. > > *This* may be where I've confused IE and Konq and it might be the > > easiest way to create the layout that firefox gives me. > >
essentially gives you a box which after setting properties like > font size, background color, margins, position etc. with your > stylesheet you can place on your page and then fill with graphics, > text etc. > And using the CSS, am I right?? I began using the style sheets 10, 10+ years ago. Given that familiarity, it wouldn't be that much of a jump to go back to that mode. ( Besides, TABLE's can be a serious PITA:) I used the website's tidy tool so I saw what I had to do in order to transition. I'll need to study the
stuff. The important thing is that late this afternoon I learned that this stuff is rendered even under IE ... > Have a look at the source and style sheet of my contact page (at the > bottom of this mail) to see how you can use them quite simply. > [[ ... ]] > > > > I didn't understand you could hardwire a textsize; maybe I've > > done it inadvertently ... > > Yeah, you can: > > font-size: 16px > > Use something like (in your style sheet): > > font: italic 120% sans-serif; > > where the 120% sets the size of the font relative to the browsers > setting. > > Say me default font is set to 20px in my browser, then in the former > case the font will render at 16px and in the latter case at 22px. > > I don't know if it's something you did with your pages but it's > something you should be aware of. > Wel, I set and elsewhere Probably the same, come to think of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep an eye out for pages that look nice and validate. View source & > > > then steal chunks of xhtml and css. > > > > me thinks it's going to be a busy 2, 3 weeks, :) gary > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 05:55:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5502D1065675 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 05:55:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raghu@mri.ernet.in) Received: from hrimail.hri.res.in (hrimail.hri.res.in [210.212.50.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 788BC8FC18 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 05:55:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raghu@mri.ernet.in) Received: from ipc2.mri.ernet.in (unknown [192.168.3.2]) by hrimail.hri.res.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2407F97E4A; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:31:53 +0530 (IST) Received: from ipc2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ipc2 (Postfix) with SMTP id BC3601D2D0; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:25:09 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (riemann.mri.ernet.in [192.168.3.122]) by ipc2.mri.ernet.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917AE13D3F; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:25:09 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by riemann.mri.ernet.in (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m4V5nYn9095646; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:19:34 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu@riemann.mri.ernet.in) Received: (from raghu@localhost) by riemann.mri.ernet.in (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m4V5nV44095645; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:19:31 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu) From: "N. Raghavendra" To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20080531042858.GA23329@thought.org> (Gary Kline's message of "Fri, 30 May 2008 21:28:58 -0700") References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> <4a89d1190805290039k1f2dedb1he342b4a83d7453a6@mail.gmail.com> <200805291305.22567.kline@thought.org> <20080529220536.GA39115@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20080530023902.GF62524@thought.org> <20080530204950.GA43574@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20080531042858.GA23329@thought.org> X-Organization: Harish-Chandra Research Institute (HRI) X-Address: Chhatnag Road, Jhusi, Allahabad 211 019, India X-URL: http://www.mri.ernet.in/ and http://www.retrotexts.net/ X-Phone: +91 (532) 2667 509, 2667 318, 2667 578, 2567 746, 2567 747 X-Fax: +91 (532) 2667 576, 2567 748, 2567 444, 2568 036 X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0x03618806 X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: C75D D0AF 457E 7454 BEC2 37AD C6E1 0407 0361 8806 X-OpenPGP-Public-Key-Available-At: http://www.keyserver.net/ Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 11:19:30 +0530 Message-ID: <867idbc9at.fsf@riemann.mri.ernet.in> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "N. Raghavendra" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 05:55:41 -0000 At 2008-05-30T21:28:58-07:00, Gary Kline wrote: > Any guesses why things like this blowup:: > > The quoted string above is the so-called Formal Public Identifier (FPI) of the DTD, i.e., the "standard", that your HTML page claims to conform to. However, the format of the FPI in your page is wrong. For instance, "dtd" should be the upper case "DTD", and the ISO 639 language code "en" should be the upper case "EN". In addition, the entire FPI is case-sensitive, so "Transitional" is different from "transitional". The recommended FPI for W3C HTML 4.0 Transitional is "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN". So, the above line should read Better still, follow the normal practice of writing "doctype" and "public" in upper case, and eliminating unnecessary whitespace, and make it At 2008-05-29T19:39:02-07:00, Gary Kline wrote: > I still have unread messages down-queue, but may as well ask if > there are any HTML/XML checkers in ports that would help validate my > mark. See my message earlier in this thread, where I mentioned textproc/opensp, and how to use it. In fact, the W3C validator is based on OpenSP, see http://validator.w3.org/docs/help.html#how Raghavendra. -- N. Raghavendra | http://www.retrotexts.net/ Harish-Chandra Research Institute | http://www.mri.ernet.in/ See message headers for contact and OpenPGP information. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 06:25:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6B31065671 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 06:25:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cb@lim.nl) Received: from lim.nl (78-40-197-2.dsl.alice.nl [78.40.197.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946D28FC12 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 06:25:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cb@lim.nl) Received: by venus (Postfix, from userid 80) id 62A065C1E; Sat, 31 May 2008 08:25:22 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 08:25:22 +0200 From: Colin Brace Message-ID: <25515aa06ecb67b43d2a517bcceed88f@localhost> X-Sender: cb@lim.nl User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: error mounting USB disk: Invalid argument X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 06:25:25 -0000 Hi all, I am having difficulties mounting a USB drive under 7.0-STABLE. Running sysinstall, I can create a partition and format it. But sysinstall is unable to mount it: Error mounting /dev/da0s1d on /media/disk6 : Invalid argument The same error ocurrs when I try to mount it manually on the command line. I have tried various mount points, to no avail. Anyone have any ideas what is going wrong? Thanks. -- Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 07:24:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7CA31065675 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 07:24:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from mail.irbisnet.ru (mail.irbisnet.ru [194.186.18.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 288998FC17 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 07:24:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([85.172.11.149]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.irbisnet.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4V7O8L1096826 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 31 May 2008 11:24:10 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Message-ID: <4840FD02.1010306@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 11:23:46 +0400 From: Yuri Pankov User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Turner Litigation Services References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh - connect to directory outside of /user/home - permission denied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 07:24:12 -0000 Turner Litigation Services wrote: > How do you allow ssh to permit connections to a folder outside of the /home > folder of the user loggin in to ssh? For example, i want to sync two > folders > (using unison) on different machines and need to ssh to the remote folder .. > > but the folder is a shared folder outside of my home folder > (i.e. /user/data/pub). > > ssh [username]@[servername] works to get me into the user folder and I can > cd > to the folder I need to access (and have proper perms there) > > But, I need to connect to the folder directly to use unison (file/directory > synchronization tool). > > ssh [username]@[severname] /usr/data/pub/ gives permission denied errors. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You are specifying a command to run once ssh connects, not the path to chdir to. > I've heard the directory path needs to be relative to the home path but the > following does not work either: > > ssh [username]@[servername] ../../../usr/data/pub/ (where the default > directory for ssh logins is /usr/home/[username]/.) > > I've tried formatting variations of the above themes to no avail and suspect > > there's a setting somewhere to allow what directories ssh connections can be > > made to, or creating a link in [users] home directory to the public > directory. Your help would be appreciated. > You could use something similar to: ssh [username]@[servername] 'cd /usr/data/pub; unison .........' HTH, Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 07:30:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5526D1065672 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 07:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC4E8FC16 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 07:30:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4V7TtIQ053696; Sat, 31 May 2008 09:29:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A5B70BA97; Sat, 31 May 2008 09:29:55 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 09:29:55 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Colin Brace Message-ID: <20080531072955.GA76694@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Colin Brace , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <25515aa06ecb67b43d2a517bcceed88f@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <25515aa06ecb67b43d2a517bcceed88f@localhost> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error mounting USB disk: Invalid argument X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 07:30:03 -0000 --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 08:25:22AM +0200, Colin Brace wrote: >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > I am having difficulties mounting a USB drive under 7.0-STABLE. Running > sysinstall, I can create a partition and format it. But sysinstall is > unable to mount it: >=20 > Error mounting /dev/da0s1d on /media/disk6 : Invalid argument >=20 > The same error ocurrs when I try to mount it manually on the command line. > I have tried various mount points, to no avail.=20 >=20 > Anyone have any ideas what is going wrong? Can you show us what is shown in the dmesg output when you plug this drive in, which devices are then created and the exact command that you used to mount it? Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhA/nMACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVShwCdEhrNjkrNfB+WlmalY314ghMR sUwAn29P7bPKSMEV0k1ovxq3ijELibbE =Zovb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 08:01:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 377B31065676 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 08:01:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ruel.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB7E8FC15 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 08:01:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ruel.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so106737ywe.13 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 01:01:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=ZBfkp2/X0V+7RsLZYeM8WN2xv0ZqpDjTfZA4puTjoCc=; b=IBBGveRmXqd8wrKwxqwL4+EfSJLgB0oMh9FXOVRxiQTDdvfMBLkuTc8UsbAhJJ/UcskQn2O0nqlQoH7yTkeuOofPIFHECHmSzroKiY0PROLLpQc+06MR7cMyeKb6eOlKiE+2x3gKaOl+pZlE6YaE//pWQpgKxvRGTt00Zi17CUA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=HACE02Y5OW05H8Gh/00KE8lfC9WRb06sRgSw7ETCLwOTYb0IVixveUmSbBA1JnNpbsfeGQ/WbsrE5qhRcDFaV3a+jaoTqbQCyZkblIVol3OKXJIw50d7vzJzShn1nZt0rDCVzXyTSV3BYFYkYFCQ/bsa/+s2h/krNgHAz8LZSCM= Received: by 10.151.112.21 with SMTP id p21mr755859ybm.97.1212220885061; Sat, 31 May 2008 01:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.97.21 with HTTP; Sat, 31 May 2008 01:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 16:01:25 +0800 From: "Ruel Luchavez" To: "Jon Radel" In-Reply-To: <4840CC17.8040502@radel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4840CC17.8040502@radel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Redirect email account in freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 08:01:26 -0000 man forward is great, but im running in virtual postfix? any idea how to do ".forward" in virtual postfix? On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Jon Radel wrote: > Ruel Luchavez wrote: > >> ALL Hi, >> >> I dont know if its right to post my problem here.. >> >> > Yes. > > How would you redirect an email account? >> Lets put it in this way, we have an existing account namely >> account1@pro.com >> ,account2@pro.com and account3@pro.com what i want is >> when someone send and email to account1 only (no cc: or bcc: from sender) >> , >> account3 can also receive the message being sent >> to account1? is it possible? >> >> > If you're using sendmail (the default mail server in FreeBSD), probably the > easiest way is to edit /etc/mail/aliases and put the following line in the > file: > > account1: \account1, account3 > > and then run the newaliases command. > > While this will not send account3 two copies of e-mail that the sender sent > to both account1 and account3, it will not check that account1 is the only > recipient. If you need to strictly check that there are no cc: or bcc: > recipients, I suspect you will have to install something more sophisticated, > such as procmail from ports. > > I'm using the Thunderbird. >> > > Or, you could set up rules in Thunderbird to do the forwarding from there. > Of course, this means that mail gets forwarded only when account1 checks > for mail. > > --Jon Radel > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 08:02:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897581065670 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 08:02:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ruel.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC3E8FC22 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 08:02:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ruel.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so106822ywe.13 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 01:02:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=wwWu+df/R2+oMcUML08Mn50SWEeCJOZzamjUk+h7ElI=; b=PPMrzAoE3u+5nnn6UHkWm2cOFeb2alLtfQb1bJYILw1TmBalqdhxo+q2aMHn1cT12BYGBa6aMhik4HD+L9o7eIeVSi1F8xTR0FiMQFIfQpcS8NkjeufIRFO75SoZus66VQMbX3GUcLdxZKbrbdQlW6K4NggaGDwRCzFRgqoKgu4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=F4C90yyQOSVNrkalL6KOEjwltcJq3zQAsVubja0ionuFOmU3V9YjFS1/n3rAUa+Y9p6dH9BVg5Zq2tL3F6KYPRqdC/vn6bQ1j2ENy3PT11DE1qxw5g9KvIQDt4g9RQ4WHtYPMKCnXOzMjiTVN7En2k7iLeN+3YQQzjMsR1gskRk= Received: by 10.150.83.22 with SMTP id g22mr2851542ybb.140.1212220940461; Sat, 31 May 2008 01:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.97.21 with HTTP; Sat, 31 May 2008 01:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 16:02:20 +0800 From: "Ruel Luchavez" To: jj@dhenin.fr In-Reply-To: <12437d830805302016p157a1fb9ldf690962239a5290@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <12437d830805302016p157a1fb9ldf690962239a5290@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Redirect email account in freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 08:02:21 -0000 man forward is great, but im running in virtual postfix? any idea how to do ".forward" in virtual postfix? On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Dh=E9nin Jean-Jacques < jean-jacques@dhenin.fr> wrote: > 2008/5/31 Ruel Luchavez : > > ALL Hi, > > > > I dont know if its right to post my problem here.. > > > > How would you redirect an email account? > > Lets put it in this way, we have an existing account namely > account1@pro.com > > ,account2@pro.com and account3@pro.com what i want is > > when someone send and email to account1 only (no cc: or bcc: from sende= r) > , > > account3 can also receive the message being sent > > to account1? is it possible? > > man forward. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > (=B0> Dh=E9nin Jean-Jacques > / ) 48, rue de la Justice 78300 Poissy > ^^ Jean-Jacques@dhenin.fr > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 08:27:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FB41065691 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 08:27:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cb@lim.nl) Received: from lim.nl (78-40-197-2.dsl.alice.nl [78.40.197.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869358FC14 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 08:27:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cb@lim.nl) Received: by venus (Postfix, from userid 80) id A30295C1E; Sat, 31 May 2008 10:27:50 +0200 (CEST) To: Roland Smith MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 10:27:50 +0200 From: Colin Brace In-Reply-To: <20080531072955.GA76694@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <25515aa06ecb67b43d2a517bcceed88f@localhost> <20080531072955.GA76694@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <79defaf7e7f012e2cd5c6381d84dccb9@localhost> X-Sender: cb@lim.nl User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error mounting USB disk: Invalid argument X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 08:27:53 -0000 On Sat, 31 May 2008 09:29:55 +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > Can you show us what is shown in the dmesg output when you plug this > drive in, which devices are then created and the exact command that you > used to mount it? dmesg: [...] umass0: on uhub1 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 1.000MB/s transfers da0: 194481MB (398297088 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 24792C) These nodes are created: # ls -1 /dev/da* /dev/da0 /dev/da0s1 /dev/da0s1c Then: # mount /dev/da0s1c /media/disk6 mount: /dev/da0s1c : Invalid argument # mount -t ufs /dev/da0s1c /media/disk6 mount: /dev/da0s1c : Invalid argument Thanks. -- Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 08:51:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7288106567C for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 08:51:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFAA88FC1E; Sat, 31 May 2008 08:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4841117B.1030009@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 10:51:07 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Casey Scott References: <9985990.181212205411544.JavaMail.root@tomcat.phantombsd.org> In-Reply-To: <9985990.181212205411544.JavaMail.root@tomcat.phantombsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.0 upgrade compile error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 08:51:08 -0000 Casey Scott wrote: > I am trying to upgrade from 6.3 to 7.0. With latest source, buildworld dies > with: > > ... > /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c: In function 'uw_install_context_1': > /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1472: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' > /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1480: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'memcpy' > /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1486: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'memcpy' > /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1490: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'memcpy' > In file included from /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1518: > /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc: In function '_Unwind_RaiseException_Phase2': > /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc:75: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' > /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc: In function '_Unwind_Resume': > /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc:238: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' > /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc: In function '_Unwind_Resume_or_Rethrow': > /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc:263: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' These are all non-fatal warnings, so it doesn't explain why the build stopped. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc. > *** Error code 1 Please show us more context. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 09:42:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D94106564A for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 09:42:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97C58FC22 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 09:42:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4V9gL6q035820; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:42:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 92DDDBA97; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:42:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 11:42:21 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Colin Brace Message-ID: <20080531094221.GA81037@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Colin Brace , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <25515aa06ecb67b43d2a517bcceed88f@localhost> <20080531072955.GA76694@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <79defaf7e7f012e2cd5c6381d84dccb9@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <79defaf7e7f012e2cd5c6381d84dccb9@localhost> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error mounting USB disk: Invalid argument X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 09:42:29 -0000 --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 10:27:50AM +0200, Colin Brace wrote: >=20 > On Sat, 31 May 2008 09:29:55 +0200, Roland Smith wrote: >=20 > > Can you show us what is shown in the dmesg output when you plug this > > drive in, which devices are then created and the exact command that you > > used to mount it? >=20 > dmesg: >=20 > [...] > umass0: on uhub1 > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device=20 > da0: 1.000MB/s transfers > da0: 194481MB (398297088 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 24792C) >=20 > These nodes are created: >=20 > # ls -1 /dev/da* > /dev/da0 > /dev/da0s1 > /dev/da0s1c >=20 > Then: >=20 > # mount /dev/da0s1c /media/disk6 > mount: /dev/da0s1c : Invalid argument This is caused by the nmount system call returning EINVAL. Quoting from mount(2):=20 [EINVAL] The super block for the file system had a bad magic number or an out of range block size. After partitioning and labeling the disk, did you make filesystems on the partitions with newfs? Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhBHX0ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUeowCePslgh9jnxlKzAHJSP4H1M8z/ T2wAn1suhFkKZcj6C0VpqIcbfrZclog8 =itOI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 10:18:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D48106567A for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 10:18:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cb@lim.nl) Received: from lim.nl (78-40-197-2.dsl.alice.nl [78.40.197.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72468FC14 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 10:18:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cb@lim.nl) Received: by venus (Postfix, from userid 80) id 457F65C1E; Sat, 31 May 2008 12:17:57 +0200 (CEST) To: Roland Smith MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 12:17:57 +0200 From: Colin Brace In-Reply-To: <20080531094221.GA81037@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <25515aa06ecb67b43d2a517bcceed88f@localhost> <20080531072955.GA76694@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <79defaf7e7f012e2cd5c6381d84dccb9@localhost> <20080531094221.GA81037@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <19839aceb10de69024c9fae933836067@localhost> X-Sender: cb@lim.nl User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error mounting USB disk: Invalid argument X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 10:18:02 -0000 On Sat, 31 May 2008 11:42:21 +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > After partitioning and labeling the disk, did you make filesystems on > the partitions with newfs? Ah, no. According to Absolute FreeBSD, 2nd ed, which I have in front of me, newfs invoked by sysinstall, which I used to create the slice and partition it (p 241). Anyway, I now try running newfs in terminal, but it throws up some errrors: # newfs /dev/da0s1c /dev/da0s1c: 194474.3MB (398283416 sectors) block size 16384, fragment size 2048 using 1059 cylinder groups of 183.77MB, 11761 blks, 23552 inodes. super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: newfs: wtfs: 65536 bytes at sector 160: Invalid argument # newfs /dev/da0s1c /dev/da0s1c: 194474.3MB (398283416 sectors) block size 16384, fragment size 2048 using 1059 cylinder groups of 183.77MB, 11761 blks, 23552 inodes. super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: 160, 376512, 752864, 1129216, 1505568, 1881920, 2258272, 2634624, 3010976, 3387328, 3763680, 4140032,newfs: wtfs: 65536 bytes at sector 4516384: Invalid argument I tried it several times; the errors seem kinda random, since they vary each time I run the command. Could it be that the chipset of this USB device, JMicron, is not entirely supported by FreeBSD? The reason I ask is because this appears to be an issue under Linux; cf, http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=3751 Yes, I am well aware it is a different OS (!); I only mention it in case there is overlap in the codebase for this particular chipset. -- Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 10:57:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C561065670 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 10:57:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve.lake@raiden.net) Received: from dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net (dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net [69.51.138.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04908FC14 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 10:57:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve.lake@raiden.net) Received: from works.raiden.net (works [192.168.0.3]) by dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net (8.13.1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m4VAwR0P008424; Sat, 31 May 2008 06:58:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from steve.lake@raiden.net) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20080531070847.00c43098@192.168.0.30> X-Sender: megosdog@192.168.0.30 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 07:10:23 -0400 To: Unga From: Steve Lake In-Reply-To: <258326.33866.qm@web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20080530185311.00c42f60@192.168.0.30> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 10:57:30 -0000 >If you are honest for your site's objective, >appreciate if could drop the penguin from the site's >logo without a delay. It clearly shows your bias. Well, I am looking for a new logo, but I'd need someone who could help me design it since I'm not all that great at graphic design. ^_^;; Steven Lake Owner/Technical Writer Raiden's Realm www.raiden.net Bringing Linux and BSD to the World From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 11:29:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93861065677 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A5B8FC19 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:29:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4VBTQ95015185; Sat, 31 May 2008 13:29:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m4VBTQiE015182; Sat, 31 May 2008 13:29:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 13:29:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Roland Smith In-Reply-To: <20080531094221.GA81037@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20080531132916.H15181@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <25515aa06ecb67b43d2a517bcceed88f@localhost> <20080531072955.GA76694@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <79defaf7e7f012e2cd5c6381d84dccb9@localhost> <20080531094221.GA81037@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Colin Brace Subject: Re: error mounting USB disk: Invalid argument X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 11:29:37 -0000 >> Then: >> >> # mount /dev/da0s1c /media/disk6 >> mount: /dev/da0s1c : Invalid argument mount_msdosfs ? > > This is caused by the nmount system call returning EINVAL. Quoting from > mount(2): > > [EINVAL] The super block for the file system had a bad magic > number or an out of range block size. > > After partitioning and labeling the disk, did you make filesystems on > the partitions with newfs? > > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 12:12:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054D4106564A for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 12:12:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0E48FC24 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 12:12:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4VCCgtn043997; Sat, 31 May 2008 14:12:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3D880BAAC; Sat, 31 May 2008 14:12:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 14:12:42 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Colin Brace Message-ID: <20080531121242.GA85735@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Colin Brace , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <25515aa06ecb67b43d2a517bcceed88f@localhost> <20080531072955.GA76694@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <79defaf7e7f012e2cd5c6381d84dccb9@localhost> <20080531094221.GA81037@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <19839aceb10de69024c9fae933836067@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <19839aceb10de69024c9fae933836067@localhost> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error mounting USB disk: Invalid argument X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 12:12:50 -0000 --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 12:17:57PM +0200, Colin Brace wrote: >=20 > On Sat, 31 May 2008 11:42:21 +0200, Roland Smith wrote: >=20 > > After partitioning and labeling the disk, did you make filesystems on > > the partitions with newfs? >=20 > Ah, no. According to Absolute FreeBSD, 2nd ed, which I have in front of m= e, > newfs invoked by sysinstall, which I used to create the slice and partiti= on > it (p 241). >=20 > Anyway, I now try running newfs in terminal, but it throws up some errror= s: >=20 > # newfs /dev/da0s1c > /dev/da0s1c: 194474.3MB (398283416 sectors) block size 16384, fragment si= ze > 2048 > using 1059 cylinder groups of 183.77MB, 11761 blks, 23552 inodes. > super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: > newfs: wtfs: 65536 bytes at sector 160: Invalid argument >=20 > # newfs /dev/da0s1c > /dev/da0s1c: 194474.3MB (398283416 sectors) block size 16384, fragment si= ze > 2048 > using 1059 cylinder groups of 183.77MB, 11761 blks, 23552 inodes. > super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: > 160, 376512, 752864, 1129216, 1505568, 1881920, 2258272, 2634624, 301097= 6, > 3387328, 3763680, 4140032,newfs: wtfs: 65536 bytes at sector 4516384: > Invalid argument >=20 > I tried it several times; the errors seem kinda random, since they vary > each time I run the command. >=20 > Could it be that the chipset of this USB device, JMicron, is not entirely > supported by FreeBSD? The reason I ask is because this appears to be an > issue under Linux; cf, http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=3D37= 51 I've only had trouble with JMicron when using geli(8) encrypted partitions on a machine that was underpowered. But not when just doing a newfs.=20 You could try building a kernel without umass, but with atausb and atapifd. The disk will be attached as a floppy drive, /dev/afd* Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhBQLoACgkQEnfvsMMhpyV5kACfbWV0/+fsp1NpzO+cuOyYYNW8 Tu0An1lxknlRdlCKJDGQz0u9+CPW/bWZ =2IMa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 12:54:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E491065672 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 12:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2488FC0C for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 12:54:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.5) with SMTP id WAA24273; Sat, 31 May 2008 22:54:28 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 22:54:27 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20080531120022.4C152106568E@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Roland Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Colin Brace Subject: Re: error mounting USB disk: Invalid argument X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 12:54:49 -0000 On Sat, 31 May 2008 13:29:26 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> Then: > >> > >> # mount /dev/da0s1c /media/disk6 > >> mount: /dev/da0s1c : Invalid argument > > mount_msdosfs ? Maybe. But then it'd likely be /dev/da0s1 .. Even if it's UFS, you wouldn't want to mount the 'c' partition. Perhaps? 'mount /dev/da0s1a /media/disk6' or da0s1d maybe .. Colin, what does 'fdisk da0' say? How about 'bsdlabel da0s1' ? > > This is caused by the nmount system call returning EINVAL. Quoting from > > mount(2): > > > > [EINVAL] The super block for the file system had a bad magic > > number or an out of range block size. > > > > After partitioning and labeling the disk, did you make filesystems on > > the partitions with newfs? > > > > Roland cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 13:18:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A362E106566C for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 13:18:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744618FC1C for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 13:18:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K2Qyi-0005Fm-Rl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 06:18:36 -0700 Message-ID: <17575165.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 06:18:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Colin_Brace To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080531121242.GA85735@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: cb@lim.nl References: <25515aa06ecb67b43d2a517bcceed88f@localhost> <20080531072955.GA76694@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <79defaf7e7f012e2cd5c6381d84dccb9@localhost> <20080531094221.GA81037@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <19839aceb10de69024c9fae933836067@localhost> <20080531121242.GA85735@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Subject: Re: error mounting USB disk: Invalid argument X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 13:18:37 -0000 Hi again, It seems like a JMicron issue. I can mount a different USB drive, formatted for Linux, without problem: dmesg: [...] umass0: on uhub1 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: < > Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 1.000MB/s transfers da0: 38154MB (78140160 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4864C) GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1 is ext2fs//. [root@venus ~]# mount -t ext2fs /dev/da0s1 /media/disk6/ ls /media/disk6 [...] Works fine. Roland Smith wrote: > > You could try building a kernel without umass, but with atausb and > atapifd. The disk will be attached as a floppy drive, /dev/afd* > Thanks for the suggestion, but it isn't really worth my trouble at this point; I'll find a different solution. Somewhere there must be a list of which SATA to USB chipsets are supported by FreeBSD. ----- Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/error-mounting-USB-disk%3A-Invalid-argument-tp17572449p17575165.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 14:38:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C7DD1065713 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 14:38:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tsmullins@wise.k12.va.us) Received: from mail.wise.k12.va.us (mail.wise.k12.va.us [72.4.65.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFEEB8FC0A for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 14:38:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tsmullins@wise.k12.va.us) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 10:26:56 -0400 Message-ID: <537CB068C0C3DB4C857BB2719A89DC9102793F0A@mail2.wise.k12> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Reverse proxy recommendation Thread-Index: AcjDKl/P7+slbhh7SJy5uz1JX/tf2w== From: "Thomas Mullins" To: Subject: Reverse proxy recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 14:38:59 -0000 Hello, We have three internal web servers that we make accessible to the internet. Right now we simply use pf and port redirection. Works great. =20 But, we would like to tighten up security. I know you can do this with squid, apache and a few others. Could someone please make a recommendation on what solutions they have used or seen in the past? =20 Thanks Shane From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 14:56:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A2B1065675 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 14:56:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from lmailproxy01.edpnet.net (lmailproxy01.edpnet.net [212.71.1.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DDCC8FC13 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 14:56:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from [192.168.0.10] ([77.109.107.37]) by lmailproxy01.edpnet.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m4VEu5i8008912; Sat, 31 May 2008 16:56:15 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: Thomas Mullins In-Reply-To: <537CB068C0C3DB4C857BB2719A89DC9102793F0A@mail2.wise.k12> References: <537CB068C0C3DB4C857BB2719A89DC9102793F0A@mail2.wise.k12> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 16:56:04 +0200 Message-Id: <1212245764.1343.0.camel@rivendell.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93/7040/Tue May 6 03:52:15 2008 on lmailproxy01.edpnet.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.1.9 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.9 (2007-02-13) on lmailproxy01.edpnet.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reverse proxy recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 14:56:22 -0000 I use Apache (2.2) with mod_proxy / mod_proxy_balancer ... works like a charm! On Sat, 2008-05-31 at 10:26 -0400, Thomas Mullins wrote: > Hello, > > We have three internal web servers that we make accessible to the > internet. Right now we simply use pf and port redirection. Works > great. > > But, we would like to tighten up security. I know you can do this with > squid, apache and a few others. Could someone please make a > recommendation on what solutions they have used or seen in the past? > > Thanks > Shane > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 15:13:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E130106564A for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 15:13:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl (smtpq2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl [213.51.146.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D818FC12 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 15:13:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [213.51.146.190] (port=52105 helo=smtp1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl) by smtpq2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K2SmG-0003ur-36; Sat, 31 May 2008 17:13:52 +0200 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([84.25.65.88]:4947 helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K2SmF-0000eD-N4; Sat, 31 May 2008 17:13:52 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FAF39803; Sat, 31 May 2008 17:13:51 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48416B2E.5080600@boosten.org> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 17:13:50 +0200 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Mullins References: <537CB068C0C3DB4C857BB2719A89DC9102793F0A@mail2.wise.k12> In-Reply-To: <537CB068C0C3DB4C857BB2719A89DC9102793F0A@mail2.wise.k12> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080531-0, 05/31/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reverse proxy recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 15:13:55 -0000 Thomas Mullins wrote: > Hello, > > We have three internal web servers that we make accessible to the > internet. Right now we simply use pf and port redirection. Works > great. > > But, we would like to tighten up security. I know you can do this with > squid, apache and a few others. Could someone please make a > recommendation on what solutions they have used or seen in the past? > I'm using squid as reverse proxy, for several internal hosts (just one squid reading the host-header), both as rp for 'normal' sites and as https front end. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 15:31:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3DFB1065675 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 15:31:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: from mail.phantombsd.org (mail.phantombsd.org [74.94.69.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CA38FC1B for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 15:31:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.phantombsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334C211A0003; Sat, 31 May 2008 08:31:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-10 required=4 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.phantombsd.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.phantombsd.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1qm8rx2waUK0; Sat, 31 May 2008 08:31:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.phantombsd.org (tomcat.phantombsd.org [192.168.1.2]) by mail.phantombsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A786211A0002; Sat, 31 May 2008 08:31:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 08:31:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Casey Scott To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <32222408.01212247895507.JavaMail.root@tomcat.phantombsd.org> In-Reply-To: <4841117B.1030009@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [192.168.1.6] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.5_GA_2201.RHEL5 (ZimbraWebClient - FF2.0 (Win)/5.0.5_GA_2201.RHEL5) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.0 upgrade compile error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 15:31:41 -0000 Kris, > Please show us more context. These seems to be all the relevant output: ****************************************************************************************** cd /usr/src/etc; make buildincludes; make installincludes -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 4.2: building libraries -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj MACHINE_ARCH=i386 MACHINE=i386 CPUTYPE=pentium4 GROFF_BIN_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin GROFF_FONT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/share/groff_font GROFF_TMAC_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/share/tmac _SHLIBDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp INSTALL="sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh" PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin make -f Makefile.inc1 DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -DNO_FSCHG -DWITHOUT_HTML -DWITHOUT_INFO -DNO_LINT -DWITHOUT_MAN -DWITHOUT_NLS -DWITHOUT_PROFILE libraries cd /usr/src; make -f Makefile.inc1 _prereq_libs; make -f Makefile.inc1 _startup_libs; make -f Makefile.inc1 _prebuild_libs; make -f Makefile.inc1 _generic_libs; ===> gnu/lib/libgcc (obj,depend,all,install) make -f /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/Makefile MFILE=/usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/Makefile GCCDIR=/usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc tm.h TARGET_CPU_DEFAULT="" HEADERS="options.h i386/i386.h i386/unix.h i386/att.h dbxelf.h elfos.h freebsd-native.h freebsd-spec.h freebsd.h i386/freebsd.h defaults.h" DEFINES="" /bin/sh /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/mkconfig.sh tm.h echo '#define EXTRA_MODES_FILE "i386/i386-modes.def"' >> tm.h make -f /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/Makefile MFILE=/usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/Makefile GCCDIR=/usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc tconfig.h TARGET_CPU_DEFAULT="" HEADERS="auto-host.h ansidecl.h" DEFINES="USED_FOR_TARGET" /bin/sh /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/mkconfig.sh tconfig.h make -f /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/Makefile MFILE=/usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/Makefile GCCDIR=/usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc options.h awk -f /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/opt-gather.awk /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/c.opt /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/common.opt /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/config/i386/i386.opt > optionlist awk -f /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/opt-functions.awk -f /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/opth-gen.awk < optionlist > options.h make -f /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/Makefile MFILE=/usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/Makefile GCCDIR=/usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc unwind.h ln -sf /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-generic.h unwind.h make -f /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/Makefile MFILE=/usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/Makefile GCCDIR=/usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc gthr-default.h ln -sf /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/gthr-posix.h gthr-default.h cc -c -O2 -pipe -march=pentium4 -DIN_GCC -DIN_LIBGCC2 -D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED -DHAVE_GTHR_DEFAULT -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcclibs/include -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/config -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../usr.bin/cc/cc_tools -fvisibility=hidden -DHIDE_EXPORTS -fPIC -fexceptions -D__GLIBC__=3 -DElfW=__ElfN -o unwind-dw2.o /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c In file included from /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:32: /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/tsystem.h:47:20: error: stddef.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/tsystem.h:48:19: error: float.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/tsystem.h:87:20: error: stdarg.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/tsystem.h:90:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/tsystem.h:96:19: error: errno.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/tsystem.h:103:20: error: string.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/tsystem.h:104:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/tsystem.h:105:20: error: unistd.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/tsystem.h:108:20: error: limits.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/tsystem.h:111:18: error: time.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:40: /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-pe.h: In function 'size_of_encoded_value': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-pe.h:90: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-pe.h: In function 'base_of_encoded_value': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-pe.h:122: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-pe.h: In function 'read_encoded_value_with_base': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-pe.h:259: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' In file included from /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/gthr.h:114, from /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:42: ./gthr-default.h:43:21: error: pthread.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/gthr.h:114, from /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:42: ./gthr-default.h: At top level: ./gthr-default.h:92: error: 'pthread_once' undeclared here (not in a function) ./gthr-default.h:93: error: 'pthread_getspecific' undeclared here (not in a function) ./gthr-default.h:94: error: 'pthread_setspecific' undeclared here (not in a function) ./gthr-default.h:95: error: 'pthread_create' undeclared here (not in a function) ./gthr-default.h:96: error: 'pthread_cancel' undeclared here (not in a function) ./gthr-default.h:97: error: 'pthread_mutex_lock' undeclared here (not in a function) ./gthr-default.h:98: error: 'pthread_mutex_trylock' undeclared here (not in a function) ./gthr-default.h:99: error: 'pthread_mutex_unlock' undeclared here (not in a function) ./gthr-default.h:100: error: 'pthread_mutex_init' undeclared here (not in a function) ./gthr-default.h:103: error: 'pthread_key_create' undeclared here (not in a function) ./gthr-default.h:104: error: 'pthread_key_delete' undeclared here (not in a function) ./gthr-default.h:105: error: 'pthread_mutexattr_init' undeclared here (not in a function) ./gthr-default.h:106: error: 'pthread_mutexattr_settype' undeclared here (not in a function) ./gthr-default.h:107: error: 'pthread_mutexattr_destroy' undeclared here (not in a function) ./gthr-default.h: In function '__gthread_active_p': ./gthr-default.h:173: error: 'PTHREAD_MUTEX_INITIALIZER' undeclared (first use in this function) ./gthr-default.h:173: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ./gthr-default.h:173: error: for each function it appears in.) ./gthr-default.h:174: error: 'PTHREAD_ONCE_INIT' undeclared (first use in this function) ./gthr-default.h:188: error: called object '__gthrw_pthread_mutex_lock' is not a function ./gthr-default.h:189: error: called object '__gthrw_pthread_once' is not a function ./gthr-default.h:190: error: called object '__gthrw_pthread_mutex_unlock' is not a function ./gthr-default.h: In function '__gthread_once': ./gthr-default.h:578: error: called object '__gthrw_pthread_once' is not a function ./gthr-default.h: In function '__gthread_key_create': ./gthr-default.h:586: error: called object '__gthrw_pthread_key_create' is not a function ./gthr-default.h: In function '__gthread_key_delete': ./gthr-default.h:592: error: called object '__gthrw_pthread_key_delete' is not a function ./gthr-default.h: In function '__gthread_getspecific': ./gthr-default.h:598: error: called object '__gthrw_pthread_getspecific' is not a function ./gthr-default.h: In function '__gthread_setspecific': ./gthr-default.h:604: error: called object '__gthrw_pthread_setspecific' is not a function ./gthr-default.h: In function '__gthread_mutex_lock': ./gthr-default.h:611: error: called object '__gthrw_pthread_mutex_lock' is not a function ./gthr-default.h: In function '__gthread_mutex_trylock': ./gthr-default.h:620: error: called object '__gthrw_pthread_mutex_trylock' is not a function ./gthr-default.h: In function '__gthread_mutex_unlock': ./gthr-default.h:629: error: called object '__gthrw_pthread_mutex_unlock' is not a function ./gthr-default.h: In function '__gthread_recursive_mutex_init_function': ./gthr-default.h:643: error: called object '__gthrw_pthread_mutexattr_init' is not a function ./gthr-default.h:645: error: 'PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE' undeclared (first use in this function) ./gthr-default.h:645: error: called object '__gthrw_pthread_mutexattr_settype' is not a function ./gthr-default.h:647: error: called object '__gthrw_pthread_mutex_init' is not a function ./gthr-default.h:649: error: called object '__gthrw_pthread_mutexattr_destroy' is not a function /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c: In function '_Unwind_GetGR': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:168: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c: In function '_Unwind_SetGR': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:208: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c: In function '_Unwind_SetGRValue': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:257: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c: In function 'extract_cie_info': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:350: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'strlen' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c: In function 'execute_stack_op': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:611: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:829: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:836: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c: In function 'execute_cfa_program': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1082: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c: In function 'uw_frame_state_for': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1099: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'memset' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c: In function '__frame_state_for': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1184: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'memset' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c: In function '_Unwind_SetSpColumn': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1234: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c: In function 'uw_update_context_1': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1290: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c: In function 'uw_init_context_1': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1408: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'memset' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1413: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1417: error: 'PTHREAD_ONCE_INIT' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c: In function 'uw_install_context_1': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1472: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1480: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'memcpy' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1486: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'memcpy' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1490: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'memcpy' In file included from /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind-dw2.c:1518: /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc: In function '_Unwind_RaiseException_Phase2': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc:75: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc: In function '_Unwind_Resume': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc:238: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc: In function '_Unwind_Resume_or_Rethrow': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc:263: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'abort' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. ****************************************************************************************** Casey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 16:48:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D121065670 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 16:48:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@lightflowinterrupted.com) Received: from mc.neutelligent.com (mc.neutelligent.com [66.230.204.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC118FC12 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 16:48:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@lightflowinterrupted.com) Received: from reaper (host86-130-234-67.range86-130.btcentralplus.com [86.130.234.67]) by mc.neutelligent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51462845B for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 12:32:41 -0400 (EDT) From: <1@movesmountains.com> Sender: "Mark" To: Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 17:30:11 +0100 Message-ID: <003601c8c33b$9a805e90$f001a8c0@asgard.movesmountains.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcjDO5joe3qMw9r1TcG60Y1Wten36g== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Subject: 7.0-RELEASE panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 16:48:55 -0000 Hi, Apologies for the somewhat-generic subject line, not sure what else to call it. I have a new, fairly generic i386 box, with a fresh install of 7.0-RELEASE using pretty much the default options. I'm using a generic kernel with the addition of "options GEOM_BDE". I have had a couple of panics with it over a day or two; I can't pinpoint what is causing it, it has panicked when I'm not there and nothing seems to be going on. I recompiled the kernel shortly after install, so don't know if it will panic on the generic kernel alone. There is a vmcore in /var/crash, and I followed the instructions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneld ebug-gdb.html However, I'm not sure if kgdb is telling me I have a physical memory problem, or if it is telling me it's not working properly, (or more likely I'm not using it properly): odin2008# kgdb kernel.debug /var/crash/vmcore.1 [GDB will not be able to debug user-mode threads: /usr/lib/libthread_db.so: Undefined symbol "ps_pglobal_lookup"] GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd". Cannot access memory at address 0x2fd9 (kgdb) where #0 0x00000000 in ?? () (kgdb) quit odin2008# more /var/crash/info.1 Dump header from device /dev/ad4s1b Architecture: i386 Architecture Version: 2 Dump Length: 207388672B (197 MB) Blocksize: 512 Dumptime: Sat May 31 15:31:52 2008 Hostname: odin2008.asgard.movesmountains.com Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump Version String: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008 root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Panic String: page fault Dump Parity: 797791774 Bounds: 1 Dump Status: good Oddly, I'm also seeing typos in /var/log/messages, which may or may not be related - e.g. May 30 0:14:53 odin2008 savecore: rebot after panic: age fault May 3 10:14:3 odin2008 savecore: wrting core to vmcore.0 May 30 10:16:03 odin2008 sck: /dev/ad4s1: 8 files, 7 used, 253808 free 40 frag, 31721 blocks, 0.0% frgmentation) fsck isn't showing any problems. Can anyone advise me what to do from here? Does this look like a hardware problem? Any help appreciated! Yours, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 19:38:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C811065674 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 19:38:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlobon@ig.com.br) Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17AF8FC1B for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 19:38:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlobon@ig.com.br) Received: by hs-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id h53so547226hsh.11 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 12:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.67.10 with SMTP id p10mr8217783aga.81.1212260993843; Sat, 31 May 2008 12:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lobo ( [189.70.253.146]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 25sm381254aga.10.2008.05.31.12.09.51 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 31 May 2008 12:09:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Lobo Organization: Digiart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 16:10:51 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200805311610.51979.mlobon@ig.com.br> Subject: downgrading /sys/src X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 19:38:53 -0000 This may sound wierd but let me explain why. On last may/26, I added a Sound Blaster Live to my machine and I wanted to= =20 activate the midi interface of the emu10kx driver. I know there were some=20 memory and timming problems but I wanted to experiment. So I did a csup to= =20 7_CURRENT (which is the tag I always use) then edited emu10kx to coment out= =20 the #if 0 that excludes the midi code. I took the oportunity to coment the= =20 drivers I did not need to make the kernel smaller. Recompiled and loaded=20 emu10kx from loader.conf. the Kernel crashed right after the acpi_hpet=20 driver load. But by loading emu10kx later, there was no crash and SB board= =20 worked fine. A hunch told me to save kernel.old so I moved it to kernel.good which is: =46reeBSD lobo 7.0-STABLE FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #1: Thu May 22 18:32:28 BRT 20= 08 =20 root@lobo:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/LOBO i386 After that I went on to make some DVD backups with k3b which ALWAYS worked= =20 fine and now, after this upgrade, k3b keeps crashing without finishing.=20 Software and device buffers usage behaved erratically, and even if it doesn= 't=20 crash, it stops in around 30% with a write error. I lost a few DVDs, since = I=20 suspected the DVD+RW may have had something to do with the problem. I=20 recompiled k3b (and the other ports around it) but results were the same. Anyway, after several unsuccessful attempts to correct the problem by=20 removing/re-adding kernel drivers, recompiles and even removing the SB boar= d,=20 I decided to move /boot/kernel to kernel.new, and copied kernel.good to=20 kernel and voil=E1 ! Everything went back to normal and worked fine! What I want to do is to make a copy of my current /src/sys, revert it back = to=20 what it was in may/22 (kernel.good) and compare it with the current /src/sy= s=20 to see what changed that provoked this behavior. I suspect of ata and memor= y=20 handling changes but it's just a guess. I'd have to have both sources to=20 compare. So my question is: How can I get my /src/sys back to what it was in may/22? can this be done?=20 sorry for the long post and thanks =2D-=20 Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br =46reeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winedows FRE= E) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 20:37:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8114B1065673 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 20:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin@kevinkempterllc.com) Received: from outbound-mail-131.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-131.bluehost.com [67.222.39.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48CC68FC1B for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 20:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin@kevinkempterllc.com) Received: (qmail 25290 invoked by uid 0); 31 May 2008 20:10:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box54.bluehost.com) (69.89.20.54) by outboundproxy4.bluehost.com with SMTP; 31 May 2008 20:10:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkempterllc.com; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:X-Identified-User:DomainKey-Status; b=A67afDBVJXwns8/rkpb/MOjTh28pnQGhkJlaqgUvSjJuUyk4fFfs/fag2vxCtiCxhq4d03o4OOvaBgu8m8qgdU1TieAfV+jGVg+IbUCLMB1gDSwzNEWWgldL7JmZ8RVm; Received: from vdsl-151-118-152-84.dnvr.qwest.net ([151.118.152.84] helo=new-host.home) by box54.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K2XPV-0001MM-S5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 14:10:44 -0600 Message-Id: <7B9E3A32-180C-4D24-991A-4EF1950D50E2@kevinkempterllc.com> From: kevin kempter To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 14:10:41 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Identified-User: {840:box54.bluehost.com:kevinkem:kevinkempterllc.com} {sentby:smtp auth 151.118.152.84 authed with kevin+kevinkempterllc.com} DomainKey-Status: no signature Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: freeBSD PHP issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 20:37:25 -0000 Hi List; I'm fairly new to freeBSD, but a long time Linux biggot. I installed freeBSD7, then I installed PHP like this: # cd /usr/ports/lang/php5 # make config # make install Next I installed PostgreSQL and pgFouine However when I run pgfouine to generate a log report I get this error: $ php ./pgfouine.php -file $PGDATA/pg_log/postgresql-31.log > rept.html PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function preg_replace() in /usr/ local/pgsql/pgfouine/include/reporting/geshi/geshi.php on line 474 preg_replace() I believe is a PHP built-in, anyone know how to correct this, or have thoughts on what I may be doing wrong. Maybe I've missed some sort of config step? Thanks in advance... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 20:40:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F16210656B0 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 20:40:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE56F8FC31 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 20:40:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2730FD06A for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 22:41:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC254FD061 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 22:41:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4841B7CA.9030209@webrz.net> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 22:40:42 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Subject: Simple DSN server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 20:40:48 -0000 OS FreeBSD 7.0 Just got the idea to start a very simple local DNS server. For that I would like to use named. Some question I have regarding to this: Configuration files for named reside in /etc/namedb directory According to the manual, I might use the command 'sh make-localhost' but this script isn't in my /etc/namedb directory: triton# cd /etc/namedb triton# ll drwxr-xr-x 2 bind wheel 512 Feb 24 18:49 dynamic drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 May 24 08:44 master -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 581 Feb 21 2007 named.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2967 Feb 24 18:53 named.root -rw------- 1 bind wheel 97 May 27 19:35 rndc.key drwxr-xr-x 2 bind wheel 512 Feb 24 18:49 slave Did something go wrong with installing named () or do I have to do an additional make install? -- Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 20:56:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311E8106566C for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 20:56:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760D48FC21 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 20:56:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4VKu7bW069310; Sat, 31 May 2008 21:56:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.5.5 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m4VKu7bW069310 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1212267368; bh=gDE+uK1PmfS2Lu xw2YY8PBLJIOQY4bRHn4A3qOofnjg=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<4841BB5F.5050308@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Sat,=2 031=20May=202008=2021:55:59=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.14=20(X11/20080503)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20kevin=20kempter=20|CC:=20freebs d-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20freeBSD=20PHP=20issues|Ref erences:=20<7B9E3A32-180C-4D24-991A-4EF1950D50E2@kevinkempterllc.co m>|In-Reply-To:=20<7B9E3A32-180C-4D24-991A-4EF1950D50E2@kevinkempte rllc.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/si gned=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pg p-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig31E77EA3B929181 5BC8666C3"; b=Z6ui/wR/jbdnmJ3j7QmrZMLhvnGo5+srpHLvdY5qlY/9KAQeeOmeo 5c+KjfD7bpt9u4v6OXFom5Mpe2SEGqt7ISCYDfuJEWX+qlQ2olg6ofxCs+K8yr+2109 otIQWYc+gz/sf+5tITpShQK3yL/m0P9p6c/scLwXlJrKSw6MrsU= Message-ID: <4841BB5F.5050308@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 21:55:59 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080503) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kevin kempter References: <7B9E3A32-180C-4D24-991A-4EF1950D50E2@kevinkempterllc.com> In-Reply-To: <7B9E3A32-180C-4D24-991A-4EF1950D50E2@kevinkempterllc.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig31E77EA3B9291815BC8666C3" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 31 May 2008 21:56:08 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93, clamav-milter version 0.93 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freeBSD PHP issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 20:56:17 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig31E77EA3B9291815BC8666C3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable kevin kempter wrote: > Hi List; >=20 > I'm fairly new to freeBSD, but a long time Linux biggot. I installed=20 > freeBSD7, then I installed PHP like this: >=20 > # cd /usr/ports/lang/php5 > # make config > # make install >=20 > Next I installed PostgreSQL and pgFouine >=20 > However when I run pgfouine to generate a log report I get this error: >=20 > $ php ./pgfouine.php -file $PGDATA/pg_log/postgresql-31.log > rept.html= > PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function preg_replace() in=20 > /usr/local/pgsql/pgfouine/include/reporting/geshi/geshi.php on line 474= >=20 > preg_replace() I believe is a PHP built-in, anyone know how to correct = > this, or have thoughts on what I may be doing wrong. Maybe I've missed = > some sort of config step? > You need to install the PCRE module: # cd /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre # make install and similarly for all of the other PHP modules you will undoubtedly find yourself needing. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig31E77EA3B9291815BC8666C3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkhBu2cACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxntQCfQgEv7Etu8D8QDAst4U7AkvSu bZYAn2lhnCuxoYq0tk5OntT6WlfbEcFe =5Jko -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig31E77EA3B9291815BC8666C3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 20:59:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768A91065686 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 20:59:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38B28FC15 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 20:59:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4VKxXWC071084; Sat, 31 May 2008 21:59:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.5.5 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m4VKxXWC071084 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1212267574; bh=jUMBnDqJ99MHRO vgkJyxrMrHVQX/4lMTkaWjdMw2vcY=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<4841BC34.2050008@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Sat,=2 031=20May=202008=2021:59:32=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.14=20(X11/20080503)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Jos=20Chrispijn=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@ freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Simple=20DSN=20server|References:=20<4 841B7CA.9030209@webrz.net>|In-Reply-To:=20<4841B7CA.9030209@webrz.n et>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3 B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-sign ature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig4077E54732C7CB94CAA05 4AC"; b=NCmRLubvGhGdPC/JmIQAMJl/9jCqoiMGnB5i9zaZ8NKUPl8x8MtjnQsjEp7 AWwq3rRijMlKijRiD2iAxptblS5IAdNClyUsTeSvX1hKz+gHytgguTP00EsPNDR+YxZ mI1yKGxyQHAk/OTKYI7dzjIhrtbaHmB9cHAAchOQk/+5E= Message-ID: <4841BC34.2050008@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 21:59:32 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080503) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jos Chrispijn References: <4841B7CA.9030209@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: <4841B7CA.9030209@webrz.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig4077E54732C7CB94CAA054AC" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 31 May 2008 21:59:34 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93, clamav-milter version 0.93 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Simple DSN server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 20:59:39 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig4077E54732C7CB94CAA054AC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jos Chrispijn wrote: > OS FreeBSD 7.0 >=20 > Just got the idea to start a very simple local DNS server. For that I=20 > would like to use named. > Some question I have regarding to this: > Configuration files for named reside in /etc/namedb directory > According to the manual, I might use the command 'sh make-localhost' bu= t=20 > this script isn't in my /etc/namedb directory: >=20 > triton# cd /etc/namedb > triton# ll > drwxr-xr-x 2 bind wheel 512 Feb 24 18:49 dynamic > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 May 24 08:44 master > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 581 Feb 21 2007 named.conf > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2967 Feb 24 18:53 named.root > -rw------- 1 bind wheel 97 May 27 19:35 rndc.key > drwxr-xr-x 2 bind wheel 512 Feb 24 18:49 slave >=20 > Did something go wrong with installing named () or do I have to do an=20 > additional make install? Nope. BIND has been updated and things have changed but the handbook hasn't caught up yet. You no longer need to run 'make-localhost' but can just use the provided zonefiles for forward and reverse lookups thereof. The rest is pretty much the same though. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig4077E54732C7CB94CAA054AC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkhBvDUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwLMACcC/XuODhkz/5/mFqUAM5s2cs7 nV0An369W+8FdM/ve6sYi4pnE3/MdpTK =8p1U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig4077E54732C7CB94CAA054AC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 21:05:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91CD41065671 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 21:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dominique.goncalves@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A1D8FC12 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 21:05:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dominique.goncalves@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so573192fkk.11 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 14:05:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=pYHBo5PUUc4vmgZqtliPmp4/eWjD4RELWOU4Hqq7M9g=; b=D7nRTYQmLQads78zefFFguavboR0VPjxplXnmaFcmUFlWhcDQF6UaRmSGWRm/hRd8kKVUW3ElO4Bsh9yaCFqkS5KIIiNxiRQxox9aB6gWIt7ilHRXmzpqxw+6mLUjRN03oFRKA9DJ5HwtgQqvB+AMLeIfBG/Q7omb8rGOo4BegM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=skBfVon0LBPoj0C6D1LCViQQRZgaEibXG5BBupmjrzfs0QRIl1Ir97zsQq01b0GR1uB+a1bH6kMd1XzYvAHqsUWGscWJ0RxEbXi5uX2hkV1dBHiBcwJ8gqc+k7O0GUcLB/c6KRcEYc9+aAc0YTFwsSBLdi9h3OI/HiZ7JWA3GQM= Received: by 10.78.130.14 with SMTP id c14mr2342438hud.105.1212267924736; Sat, 31 May 2008 14:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.157.5 with HTTP; Sat, 31 May 2008 14:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7daacbbe0805311405k2614a519p58c4d731c3f5ef1d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 23:05:24 +0200 From: "Dominique Goncalves" To: "Mario Lobo" In-Reply-To: <200805311610.51979.mlobon@ig.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200805311610.51979.mlobon@ig.com.br> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: downgrading /sys/src X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 21:05:27 -0000 Hi, On 5/31/08, Mario Lobo wrote: > This may sound wierd but let me explain why. > > On last may/26, I added a Sound Blaster Live to my machine and I wanted = to > activate the midi interface of the emu10kx driver. I know there were some > memory and timming problems but I wanted to experiment. So I did a csup t= o > 7_CURRENT (which is the tag I always use) then edited emu10kx to coment o= ut > the #if 0 that excludes the midi code. I took the oportunity to coment th= e > drivers I did not need to make the kernel smaller. Recompiled and loaded > emu10kx from loader.conf. the Kernel crashed right after the acpi_hpet > driver load. But by loading emu10kx later, there was no crash and SB boa= rd > worked fine. > > A hunch told me to save kernel.old so I moved it to kernel.good which is: > FreeBSD lobo 7.0-STABLE FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #1: Thu May 22 18:32:28 BRT 20= 08 > root@lobo:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/LOBO i386 > > After that I went on to make some DVD backups with k3b which ALWAYS worke= d > fine and now, after this upgrade, k3b keeps crashing without finishing. > Software and device buffers usage behaved erratically, and even if it doe= sn't > crash, it stops in around 30% with a write error. I lost a few DVDs, sinc= e I > suspected the DVD+RW may have had something to do with the problem. I > recompiled k3b (and the other ports around it) but results were the same. > > Anyway, after several unsuccessful attempts to correct the problem by > removing/re-adding kernel drivers, recompiles and even removing the SB bo= ard, > I decided to move /boot/kernel to kernel.new, and copied kernel.good to > kernel and voil=E1 ! Everything went back to normal and worked fine! > > What I want to do is to make a copy of my current /src/sys, revert it bac= k to > what it was in may/22 (kernel.good) and compare it with the current /src/= sys > to see what changed that provoked this behavior. I suspect of ata and mem= ory > handling changes but it's just a guess. I'd have to have both sources to > compare. > > So my question is: How can I get my /src/sys back to what it was in may/2= 2? > can this be done? You could use the 'date=3D' option in your stable-supfile: *default release=3Dcvs tag=3DRELENG_7 date=3D20080522000000 man 1 csup for more details Hope this helps Regards. > sorry for the long post and thanks > -- > Mario Lobo > http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br > FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winedows FRE= E) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > --=20 There's this old saying: "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for life." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 21:07:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198971065674 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 21:07:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F428FC1B for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 21:07:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341F7FD06A for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 23:08:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06837FD061 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 23:08:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4841BE23.3090200@webrz.net> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 23:07:47 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4841B7CA.9030209@webrz.net> <4841BC34.2050008@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4841BC34.2050008@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Subject: Re: Simple DSN server [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 21:07:53 -0000 Hi Matthew, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Nope. BIND has been updated and things have changed but the handbook > hasn't caught up yet. You no longer need to run 'make-localhost' > but can just use the provided zonefiles for forward and reverse > lookups thereof. The rest is pretty much the same though. I didn't know this. Thanks for sharing, -- Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 21:28:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C641065671 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 21:28:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AAC58FC1A for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 21:28:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4VLSfWM017442; Sat, 31 May 2008 23:28:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m4VLSeaP017439; Sat, 31 May 2008 23:28:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 23:28:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Thomas Mullins In-Reply-To: <537CB068C0C3DB4C857BB2719A89DC9102793F0A@mail2.wise.k12> Message-ID: <20080531232711.F17426@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <537CB068C0C3DB4C857BB2719A89DC9102793F0A@mail2.wise.k12> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reverse proxy recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 21:28:52 -0000 > great. > > But, we would like to tighten up security. I know you can do this with > squid, apache and a few others. Could someone please make a > recommendation on what solutions they have used or seen in the past? squid works fine for reverse proxy, is very fast, you may turn disk cache off a it doesn't make much sense (unless the servers behind are slow). in squid you may specify lots of rules as with forward proxy - it could be used for security. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 21:33:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6131065688 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 21:33:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFF58FC16 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 21:33:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethos.thought.org (ethos.thought.org [10.47.0.180]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4VLX7Y7093096; Sat, 31 May 2008 14:33:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) From: Gary Kline To: "N. Raghavendra" In-Reply-To: <867idbc9at.fsf@riemann.mri.ernet.in> References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> <4a89d1190805290039k1f2dedb1he342b4a83d7453a6@mail.gmail.com> <200805291305.22567.kline@thought.org> <20080529220536.GA39115@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20080530023902.GF62524@thought.org> <20080530204950.GA43574@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20080531042858.GA23329@thought.org> <867idbc9at.fsf@riemann.mri.ernet.in> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 14:33:02 -0700 Message-Id: <1212269582.13063.96.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 21:33:13 -0000 On Sat, 2008-05-31 at 11:19 +0530, N. Raghavendra wrote: > At 2008-05-30T21:28:58-07:00, Gary Kline wrote: > > > Any guesses why things like this blowup:: > > > > > > The quoted string above is the so-called Formal Public Identifier > (FPI) of the DTD, i.e., the "standard", that your HTML page claims to > conform to. However, the format of the FPI in your page is wrong. > For instance, "dtd" should be the upper case "DTD", and the ISO 639 > language code "en" should be the upper case "EN". In addition, the > entire FPI is case-sensitive, so "Transitional" is different from > "transitional". The recommended FPI for W3C HTML 4.0 Transitional is > "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN". So, the above line should > read > > > > Better still, follow the normal practice of writing "doctype" and > "public" in upper case, and eliminating unnecessary whitespace, and > make it > > > > At 2008-05-29T19:39:02-07:00, Gary Kline wrote: > > > I still have unread messages down-queue, but may as well ask if > > there are any HTML/XML checkers in ports that would help validate my > > mark. > > See my message earlier in this thread, where I mentioned > textproc/opensp, and how to use it. In fact, the W3C validator is > based on OpenSP, see http://validator.w3.org/docs/help.html#how > Thanks much. This morning (or afternoon!) I'm replying using Evolution that makes clicking on links easier. There are a bunch of URL's I have to study. About the *only* place I use all caps is in my markup. I didn't know until now that the doctype//DOCTYPE tag **had** to be in caps. I don't see any rational for this exception, but am v glad to learn it!! I have your earlier mail and will re-read as well as check out textproc/opensp. gary PS:: to the list: Late last night I used tidy and tidy -h, so now have yet another tool in my bag:-) ...If there atr any books or websites on how to create a nice SIMPLE page, URL's please. (i Don't think "design" can be taught; that's like trying to teach "art", isn't it?) --g > Raghavendra. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 21:39:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60B3106571E for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 21:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9A58FC0A for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 21:39:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so393717wfg.7 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 14:39:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=xBqUPzjuLOTIX7YuBQgL6wEuNvs87AvTEEj7kr2r3yc=; b=mYH0YG/F1NE/L0moIr0qNzXAg4wMwmpoMYXoGrhXDGzlupLfSW8kBO3VB0USrRKNYiuGEtjyHvrti3Q/OQciiP7D+6VtaUDfxSOzzYcDRQmsSxFtfrg5CGAxlzIRuHyI/H/Vf1VN9WpM4FVbac4DHTfTJN3okynZJz87VGI/kmg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=IHWS7SoQDEEiRjRMc80z9OuoVmZgyXONRdy5m6l2r2Fe+ZyO8exyjFpr36gQGfcA6YuOi2HjLpHXGDpwbmKLC5m+XIc2Hr1JzgtK2ZZBFLFkANTu1BjuOquT1s0vLIVAeGlQyXITlco+e7zGlw77Xf5eFa9TJt9WSG+GVPtjowE= Received: by 10.142.103.11 with SMTP id a11mr2805892wfc.273.1212268337201; Sat, 31 May 2008 14:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.156.7 with HTTP; Sat, 31 May 2008 14:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 14:12:17 -0700 From: "Kurt Buff" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Duplex printer advice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 21:39:44 -0000 All, I'm looking to replace my current printer - a Dell 1700n - because I can't make it work with FreeBSD/Linux. To replace it, I'd like to get a duplex printer, as I really hate to waste paper. Does anyone have good experience with one that isn't terribly expensive (expensive to me means more than US$500) and that works with with FreeBSD? Even better if it has Ethernet. I'm only finding (on ostg.pricegrabber.com) the Lexmark Optra T622DN and T522DN, but don't know much about them. Anyone care to share? Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 21:45:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800BB106564A for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 21:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wa4geg@netscape.net) Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com (imo-m28.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8288FC0A for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 21:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wa4geg@netscape.net) Received: from wa4geg@netscape.net by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id n.d4e.2a55845e (20894) for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 17:35:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail-stg-d07 (webmail-stg-d07.sim.aol.com [205.188.162.28]) by ciaaim-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIAAIMMA023-519e4841c49637b; Sat, 31 May 2008 17:35:18 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 17:35:18 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 72.161.45.101 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: wa4geg@netscape.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AIM WebMail 36743-STANDARD Received: from 72.161.45.101 by webmail-stg-d07.sysops.aol.com (205.188.162.28) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 31 May 2008 17:35:18 -0400 Message-Id: <8CA917D5B68CAB3-1E28-2D91@webmail-stg-d07.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO Subject: Sound skipping problem; Asus A8V-X w/ VIA VT8251/8237A on-board HDA (sound) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 21:45:41 -0000 Help, I've googled my fingers off up to the elbow and no luck:o) Sound works but skips or has gaps at about 1 second intervals. I'm running a fresh install of FreeBSD 7.0 Release (AMD64.) /boot/loader.conf contains: snd_hda_load="YES" Other info: Main board = Asus A8V-X AMD64 w/ on-board sound: VIA VT8251/8237A High Definition Audio Controller $ cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2007061600/amd64) Installed devices: pcm0: at memory 0xff5fc000 irq 17 kld snd_hda [20071129_0050] [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex default) Any help? Thanks, Byron C From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 22:09:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844D1106564A for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 22:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FCD68FC17 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 22:09:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from crab.unsane.co.uk (crab.unsane.co.uk [10.0.0.111]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m4VM8V9m015384 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 31 May 2008 23:08:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4841CC69.5000404@unsane.co.uk> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 23:08:41 +0100 From: Vince Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080507) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7B9E3A32-180C-4D24-991A-4EF1950D50E2@kevinkempterllc.com> <4841BB5F.5050308@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4841BB5F.5050308@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kevin kempter Subject: Re: freeBSD PHP issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 22:09:12 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > kevin kempter wrote: >> Hi List; >> >> I'm fairly new to freeBSD, but a long time Linux biggot. I installed >> freeBSD7, then I installed PHP like this: >> >> # cd /usr/ports/lang/php5 >> # make config >> # make install >> >> Next I installed PostgreSQL and pgFouine >> >> However when I run pgfouine to generate a log report I get this error: >> >> $ php ./pgfouine.php -file $PGDATA/pg_log/postgresql-31.log > rept.html >> PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function preg_replace() in >> /usr/local/pgsql/pgfouine/include/reporting/geshi/geshi.php on line 474 >> >> preg_replace() I believe is a PHP built-in, anyone know how to correct >> this, or have thoughts on what I may be doing wrong. Maybe I've missed >> some sort of config step? >> > > You need to install the PCRE module: > > # cd /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre > # make install > > and similarly for all of the other PHP modules you will undoubtedly > find yourself needing. > A quicker way of doing this is cd /usr/ports/lang/php5-extensions make config then choose what extensions you need, and then make install clean Vince > Cheers, > > Matthew > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 23:15:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92192106567E for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 23:15:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karlj000@unbc.ca) Received: from pd3mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8206F8FC1A for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 23:15:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karlj000@unbc.ca) Received: from pd3mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr4so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.180]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0K1R0099X751KI90@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 16:15:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml2so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.146]) by pd3mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0K1R00AZO74Z8A40@pd3mr4so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 16:15:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Mirrormask.bitmasksolutions.com ([24.82.95.49]) by l-daemon (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0K1R0047V74XLZ10@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 16:14:59 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 15:14:56 -0700 From: Jeremy Karlson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <164F5576-6023-4873-A1FE-CBAFD2E612A4@unbc.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: 7-STABLE Watchdog Timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 23:15:02 -0000 Hi, I'm in the process of moving a Subversion server from a 5-STABLE machine to a freshly installed 7-STABLE machine. I've moved the network card (a Linksys EG1032v3, RTL8169S/8110S/8211B based) from the old machine (where it worked before) to this new machine. Now, I get: re0: watchdog timeout Every time I attempt to check out a PARTICULAR path of my Subversion repository. (That path does happen to contain a binary file, about 40 MB - probably the largest in the repository.) It works when I check it out over the loopback (localhost) connection, but not when I check it out remotely. The network seems to work great in all other cases, as far as I can tell. I've tried a number of things: disabling the onboard LAN, disabling APIC, ACPI, setting PNP OS to "no," disabling as many onboard devices as I can, and building a custom kernel. So far, nothing has made any difference. Honestly, I'm not entirely convinced it is a problem with FreeBSD. It might be a problem with HTTPD, or Subversion. But I'm out of ideas and I don't really know where to start. Does anyone have any suggestions? -- Jeremy Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #1: Sat May 31 12:47:35 PDT 2008 jmk@galactica.bitmasksolutions.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: VIA Nehemiah (999.52-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x695 Stepping = 5 Features=0x380b03d VIA Padlock Features=0x3d real memory = 503250944 (479 MB) avail memory = 478543872 (456 MB) kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) cpu0 on motherboard pcib0: pcibus 0 on motherboard pir0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 $PIR: No matching entry for 0.16.INTA $PIR: No matching entry for 0.16.INTB $PIR: No matching entry for 0.16.INTC $PIR: No matching entry for 0.16.INTD $PIR: No matching entry for 0.17.INTC $PIR: No matching entry for 0.18.INTA agp0: on hostb0 agp0: Invalid aperture setting 0x0agp0: Invalid aperture setting 0x0agp0: bad aperture size agp0: Invalid aperture setting 0x0agp0: Invalid aperture size (0Mb) device_attach: agp0 attach returned 12 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 vgapci0: mem 0xe0000000-0xe3ffffff, 0xe6000000-0xe6ffffff irq 5 at device 0.0 on pci1 cbb0: mem 0xe900c000-0xe900cfff irq 5 at device 10.0 on pci0 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 cbb0: [ITHREAD] cbb1: mem 0xe9004000-0xe9004fff irq 12 at device 10.1 on pci0 cardbus1: on cbb1 pccard1: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb1 cbb1: [ITHREAD] uhci0: port 0xb000-0xb01f irq 5 at device 16.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci0: [ITHREAD] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: on usb0 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xb400-0xb41f irq 12 at device 16.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci1: [ITHREAD] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: on usb1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xb800-0xb81f irq 7 at device 16.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci2: [ITHREAD] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: on usb2 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xe9009000-0xe90090ff irq 4 at device 16.3 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci0: [ITHREAD] usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3: on ehci0 usb3: USB revision 2.0 uhub3: on usb3 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered umass0: on uhub3 isab0: at device 17.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xbc00-0xbc0f at device 17.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1: on atapci0 ata1: [ITHREAD] pci0: at device 17.5 (no driver attached) vr0: port 0xc800-0xc8ff mem 0xe900a000-0xe900a0ff irq 5 at device 18.0 on pci0 vr0: Quirks: 0x0 vr0: Revision: 0x74 miibus0: on vr0 ukphy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto vr0: Ethernet address: 00:40:63:d4:bb:06 vr0: [ITHREAD] re0: port 0xcc00-0xccff mem 0xe900b000-0xe900b0ff irq 12 at device 20.0 on pci0 miibus1: on re0 rgephy0: PHY 1 on miibus1 rgephy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-FDX, auto re0: Ethernet address: 00:14:bf:54:f7:df re0: [FILTER] pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcdfff,0xd0000-0xd7fff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 8250 or not responding sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (memory) uhub4: on uhub1 uhub4: 3 ports with 2 removable, bus powered ukbd0: on uhub4 kbd2 at ukbd0 uhid0: on uhub4 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 999524830 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ad0: 476940MB at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: CDRW at ata1-master UDMA33 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 60801C) Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a re0: watchdog timeout re0: link state changed to DOWN re0: link state changed to UP From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 23:32:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868511065673 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 23:32:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3887E8FC20 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 23:32:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4VNWnKi006557; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 01:32:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7DA4BBAA2; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 01:32:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 01:32:49 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: wa4geg@netscape.net Message-ID: <20080531233249.GA13151@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <8CA917D5B68CAB3-1E28-2D91@webmail-stg-d07.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8CA917D5B68CAB3-1E28-2D91@webmail-stg-d07.sysops.aol.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sound skipping problem; Asus A8V-X w/ VIA VT8251/8237A on-board HDA (sound) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 23:32:53 -0000 --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 05:35:18PM -0400, wa4geg@netscape.net wrote: > Help, I've googled my fingers off up to the elbow and no luck:o) > Sound works but skips or has gaps at about 1 second intervals. > I'm running a fresh install of FreeBSD 7.0 Release (AMD64.) >=20 > /boot/loader.conf contains: >=20 > snd_hda_load=3D"YES" >=20 >=20 > Other info: >=20 > Main board =3D Asus A8V-X AMD64 w/ on-board sound: VIA VT8251/8237A > High Definition Audio Controller >=20 > $ cat /dev/sndstat > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2007061600/amd64) > Installed devices: > pcm0: > at memory 0xff5fc000 irq 17 kld snd_hda [20071129_0050] > [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex default) >=20 > Any help? You might want to play with some hw.snd sysctls, especially; - hw.snd.latency_profile (set to zero) - hw.snd.latency (set to lower value) - hw.snd.feeder_buffersize (increase) Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhB4CEACgkQEnfvsMMhpyW4/ACeOAsrBkK6VNxDyyyJLcbSIdH3 y0gAni83aU6cCg7L4FA4a6IFaerF5GLJ =4AN1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 23:49:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3ADD1065674 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 23:49:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B968FC17 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 23:49:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so454220rvf.43 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 16:49:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=5OjQL3B8hoyWKARdEa5ahFcZZsLcImd6teJ35aEn4bM=; b=OCgH2MhRUcxFemZBdCXM7G3eY1ZoMp+oea5z2xQ29opAf6FhSbd8wZPpk3JSY4Ujo2/vlhfLyLa2vD141tN0+KkgDYwjnxsvySwBEecTu6FCK9zg6gXUv9OaRA9k6GvwGzbuv6/a5hmpeMqKfn32BN/1Ka2bRev6A/5YOxwHXUs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=vttkYQmJHDBrREc5Ievs+koKcH1h0DUytzHGX/tk2qxX8jGt0SxMiS9gpuZelxgF2c9mb7O8PoEukYp6m0W/k5c1X+xNFvycZe7SdDr37CEZKobo0sBgIXPZ02eINeEG/+RWEYm489zgR8Inhz6eVcNRbpcx/s5125kw6RK5SqY= Received: by 10.114.180.1 with SMTP id c1mr7982112waf.204.1212277762485; Sat, 31 May 2008 16:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.174.15 with HTTP; Sat, 31 May 2008 16:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0805311649p14863af3y43af39fb4aa2cc8a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 19:49:22 -0400 From: alexus To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: VPN (IPSEC) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 23:49:23 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to establish a VPN tunnel over internet, I read a http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/ipsec.html on how to set it up, I'm some what strangeling if my setup will work at all. i have box #1 that have 1 primary IP, which is private IP but in front of my box, I have a device that translate a public IP address into private IP, so "technicaly" its a public IP not a private, yet system sees it as private, yet my box #2 has interface with real public ip and another interface with private ip, i created GIF0 interface, yet i can't ping private range on other box. box#1 fxp0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 00:0f:fe:aa:f4:61 inet 192.168.1.251 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 inet 172.16.172.16 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 172.16.172.16 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active plip0: flags=108810 metric 0 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 gif0: flags=8051 metric 0 mtu 1280 tunnel inet 38.96.123.42 --> 74.2.252.194 inet 192.168.1.251 --> 192.168.2.252 netmask 0xffffffff alexus@jot ~ 503$ netstat -rn | grep gif0 192.168.2.252 192.168.1.251 UH 0 15 gif0 alexus@jot ~ 504$ box#2 su-3.2# ifconfig dc0: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 00:1a:70:10:e3:89 inet 74.2.252.194 netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast 74.2.252.199 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX) status: active fxp0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 00:13:20:09:53:31 inet 192.168.2.252 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 gif0: flags=8051 metric 0 mtu 1280 tunnel inet 74.2.252.194 --> 38.96.132.42 inet 192.168.2.252 --> 192.168.1.251 netmask 0xffffffff su-3.2# netstat -rn | grep gif0 192.168.1.251 192.168.2.252 UH 0 602 gif0 su-3.2# any suggestions are welcome, thanks! -- http://alexus.org/