From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 19:26:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C251B106566C for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:26:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nox@jelal.kn-bremen.de) Received: from smtp.kn-bremen.de (gelbbaer.kn-bremen.de [78.46.108.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507148FC28 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:26:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nox@jelal.kn-bremen.de) Received: by smtp.kn-bremen.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 532531E0021A; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:26:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from triton.kn-bremen.de (noident@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by triton.kn-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5SJOa8p021874; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:24:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nox@triton.kn-bremen.de) Received: (from nox@localhost) by triton.kn-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n5SJOZhd021873; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:24:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nox) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:24:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Juergen Lock Message-Id: <200906281924.n5SJOZhd021873@triton.kn-bremen.de> To: dfpleal@gmail.com X-Newsgroups: local.list.freebsd.multimedia In-Reply-To: <4A45D4BB.8090105@gmail.com> Organization: home Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cant burn a cd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:26:57 -0000 In article <4A45D4BB.8090105@gmail.com> you write: >Hi ! > >I am trying to burn a iso in my laptop with freebsd 7.2 > >Installed cdrtools and then kldload atapicam. > >Then I looked for the cdrom: >#cdrecord -scanbus > >Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i386-unknown-freebsd7.2) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 >J?rg Schilling >Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. >scsibus2: > 2,0,0 200) 'PIONEER ' 'DVD-RW DVR-K17A' '1.51' Removable CD-ROM > 2,1,0 201) * > 2,2,0 202) * > 2,3,0 203) * > 2,4,0 204) * > 2,5,0 205) * > 2,6,0 206) * > 2,7,0 207) * > >So I try to burn the iso with the comand: > # cdrecord -v dev=2,0,0 myfile.iso > >It seams to start correctly, but in the midle gave me the input/output >error: >Can someone help me please? > >Thanks > >Here is all what I could get from the -v option:cdrecord: No write mode >specified. > >cdrecord: Asuming -tao mode. >cdrecord: Future versions of cdrecord may have different drive dependent >defaults. >cdrecord: Continuing in 5 seconds... >Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i386-unknown-freebsd7.2) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 >Jrg Schilling >TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM >scsidev: '2,0,0' >scsibus: 2 target: 0 lun: 0 >Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. >SCSI buffer size: 64512 >atapi: 0 >Device type : Removable CD-ROM >Version : 0 >Response Format: 2 >Capabilities : >Vendor_info : 'PIONEER ' >Identifikation : 'DVD-RW DVR-K17A' >Revision : '1.51' >Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. >Current: 0x0009 >Profile: 0x002B >Profile: 0x001B >Profile: 0x001A >Profile: 0x0015 >Profile: 0x0014 >Profile: 0x0013 >Profile: 0x0012 >Profile: 0x0002 >Profile: 0x0011 >Profile: 0x0010 >Profile: 0x000A >Profile: 0x0009 (current) >Profile: 0x0008 >cdrecord: This version of cdrecord does not include DVD-R/DVD-RW support >code. >cdrecord: If you need DVD-R/DVD-RW support, ask the Author for >cdrecord-ProDVD. >cdrecord: Free test versions and free keys for personal use are at >ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/ > >Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). >Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE >Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R >Drive buf size : 1267712 = 1238 KB >FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB >Track 01: data 616 MB >Total size: 708 MB (70:12.05) = 315904 sectors >Lout start: 708 MB (70:14/04) = 315904 sectors >Current Secsize: 2048 >ATIP info from disk: > Indicated writing power: 5 > Is not unrestricted > Is not erasable > Disk sub type: Medium Type B, low Beta category (B-) (4) > ATIP start of lead in: -11834 (97:24/16) > ATIP start of lead out: 359849 (79:59/74) >Disk type: Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar) >Manuf. index: 24 >Manufacturer: SONY Corporation >Blocks total: 359849 Blocks current: 359849 Blocks remaining: 43945 >Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 24 in real TAO mode for single session. >Last chance to quit, starting real write 0 seconds. Operation starts. >Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. >BURN-Free is OFF. >Performing OPC... >Starting new track at sector: 0 >Track 01: 499 of 616 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf 79%] >20.6x.cdrecord: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: retryable error >CDB: 2A 00 00 03 E6 A9 00 00 1F 00 >status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) >Sense Bytes: 71 00 03 00 56 42 66 0E 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 >00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 >Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, deferred error, Segment 0 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >[...] Try another blank (also from a different make/batch, or possibly a cdrw first?) When I got something like this once the blank had a media defect that was even visible to the naked eye... Of course the drive could be dieing too, apparently today's drives don't last for as many writes anymore as in the past. (Chinese mfgrs cutting corners everywhere I guess...) HTH, Juergen From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 21:09:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156871065672 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from flat.berklix.org (flat.berklix.org [83.236.223.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8018FC12 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:09:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p549A5235.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.82.53]) (authenticated bits=0) by flat.berklix.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5SKeBMj075245; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:40:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5SKdwaK003419; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:39:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5SKeNoI007451; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:40:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <200906282040.n5SKeNoI007451@fire.js.berklix.net> To: dfpleal@gmail.com From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:24:35 +0200." <200906281924.n5SJOZhd021873@triton.kn-bremen.de> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:40:23 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cant burn a cd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:09:56 -0000 dfpleal@gmail.com > > # cdrecord -v dev=2,0,0 myfile.iso I've happily used cdrecord many years on FreeBSD, admittedly only up to 7.1 on my burn host. I didnt notice anthing odd in your posting (OK didnt look Real hard). Maybe you were just unlucky & really did have bad media. Might your current working directory for myfile.iso be nsf mounted on a slow net & cant keep up supply of data ? (do ftp test to other host if in doubt, Ive had cases in past where a bad electrolytic capacitor in power supply dried out, voltage dropped, connection remained, but rate slowed) Could it be that SCSI interrupts of writer are getting priority over hard disc reading the source .iso ? (though OK I see nothing else on your bus 2), not sure how priority works with mutiple busses ... anyway maybe data is from ATA not scsi disc. If you have RW media (so it wont burn a small hole in your pocket) Do a number of writes. If you dont have RW media at least try a nymber of writes with -dummy Is your machine heavily loaded or intermittently so ? Is your processor too hot ? ..etc .. :-) PS this posting topic would be more normal on hackers@ rather than this multimedia@ Good luck, Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSDUnixLinux C Prog Admin SysEng Consult Munich www.berklix.com Mail plain ASCII text. HTML & Base64 text are spam. www.asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 08:45:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82DB0106564A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:45:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Schilling9ab33xy531fokus.fraunhofer.de@bounce.antispameurope.com) Received: from relay02-haj2.antispameurope.com (relay02-haj2.antispameurope.com [83.246.65.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1898FC0C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:45:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Schilling9ab33xy531fokus.fraunhofer.de@bounce.antispameurope.com) Received: by relay02-haj2.antispameurope.com (ASE-Secure-MTA, from userid 1000) id 95146194004; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:27:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de [195.37.77.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay02-haj2.antispameurope.com (ASE-Secure-MTA) with ESMTP id 47EC66F050D; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:27:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de (bohr.fokus.fraunhofer.de [10.147.9.231]) by pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n5T8Rume022210; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:27:56 +0200 (MEST) Received: from rigel ([10.147.65.195]) by EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:27:55 +0200 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:27:55 +0200 From: Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, dfpleal@gmail.com Message-ID: <4a487b0b.il/42Wi7dzHBxk4X%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2009 08:27:55.0935 (UTC) FILETIME=[80AB22F0:01C9F893] Cc: Subject: Re: cant burn a cd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:45:03 -0000 Hi, what is the reason for using a 5 year old cdrtools version? Are there no updates on FreeBSD? BTW: the other problem may be a result of using media that is unsupported by the drive. Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 09:20:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4376C106578B for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:20:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f186.google.com (mail-qy0-f186.google.com [209.85.221.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7798FC44 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by qyk16 with SMTP id 16so4287273qyk.3 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:20:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YskhdzYtq4OaQedV9VdfrokZ1SCA0BL4jCTtpICUxxs=; b=TG263akTxZhMIfWqa9OEMw0SvsuxkoyNJ4xH1NKjMYK7oM8HTZ8uCzZ5xQwx6l3cDR rgcyDidqFb3of1LQ9lptUAag7/gsM5OonefY1zNFHM0j0HsOfH16DsidNJEcf9VV/FCv +FdG+45+Tjq9cikSzZUv9KvHjGOiZEgzcdEP4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aWW4SkWXtJ75Ul5N2RJ62+hH+3nm9/KCU/YkZcdkELM3khZiDrQFezbD+RWkFG/8Tx 4UpoufavAyclhkJKLl/zaDVN9Clp+PXF9l9mso6xP5jWBMc49GcCydcPECV1bVcn7+Xh L6Gjydmc+qPRSl88yq/K+pXodJ66rjOftLgwY= Received: by 10.224.73.142 with SMTP id q14mr5047497qaj.40.1246265311068; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aryeh-desktop.istudentunion.com (ool-44c0cd7a.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.205.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 2sm13499561qwi.33.2009.06.29.01.48.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A487FDC.1090505@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:48:28 -0400 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090626) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joerg Schilling References: <4a487b0b.il/42Wi7dzHBxk4X%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> In-Reply-To: <4a487b0b.il/42Wi7dzHBxk4X%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, dfpleal@gmail.com Subject: Re: cant burn a cd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:20:17 -0000 Joerg Schilling wrote: > Hi, > > what is the reason for using a 5 year old cdrtools version? > > Are there no updates on FreeBSD? > > BTW: the other problem may be a result of using media that is unsupported by > the drive. > > Jörg > > Use burncd(1) From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 09:43:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C3C106564A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:43:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from flat.berklix.org (flat.berklix.org [83.236.223.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFAF98FC0C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p549A3B63.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.59.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by flat.berklix.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5T9gpVY085014; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:42:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5T9geIv007578; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:42:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5T9g4Xi008622; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:42:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <200906290942.n5T9g4Xi008622@fire.js.berklix.net> To: marius@FreeBSD.org From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:27:55 +0200." <4a487b0b.il/42Wi7dzHBxk4X%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:42:04 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Joerg Schilling , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org, dfpleal@gmail.com Subject: Re: cant burn a cd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:43:01 -0000 Hi marius@FreeBSD.org cc freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Current ports/sysutils/cdrtools/Makefile lists you as maintainer: PORTVERSION?= 2.01 MAINTAINER= marius@FreeBSD.org Forwarded below from author of cdrecord: -------- > From: Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) Joerg Schilling wrote: > Hi, > > what is the reason for using a 5 year old cdrtools version? > > Are there no updates on FreeBSD? > > BTW: the other problem may be a result of using media that is unsupported by > the drive. > > Jörg > > -- > EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin > js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) > joerg.schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ > URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-multimedia > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-multimedia-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSDUnixLinux C Prog Admin SysEng Consult Munich www.berklix.com Mail plain ASCII text. HTML & Base64 text are spam. www.asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 10:45:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A031065670 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:45:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Schilling9ab33xy531fokus.fraunhofer.de@bounce.antispameurope.com) Received: from relay01-haj2.antispameurope.com (relay01-haj2.antispameurope.com [83.246.65.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 514E38FC12 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:45:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Schilling9ab33xy531fokus.fraunhofer.de@bounce.antispameurope.com) Received: by relay01-haj2.antispameurope.com (ASE-Secure-MTA, from userid 1000) id 2F3C49418E; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:45:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de [195.37.77.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay01-haj2.antispameurope.com (ASE-Secure-MTA) with ESMTP id B448B94151 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:45:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de (bohr.fokus.fraunhofer.de [10.147.9.231]) by pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n5TAjkm5025177 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:45:46 +0200 (MEST) Received: from rigel ([10.147.65.195]) by EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:45:46 +0200 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:45:46 +0200 From: Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4a489b5a.tYlBVco9Ocxtng3g%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2009 10:45:46.0308 (UTC) FILETIME=[C231E840:01C9F8A6] Subject: Re: cant burn a cd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:45:49 -0000 Just a note: burncd is FreeBSD specific and does only implement a few features. Cdrecord implements many features and contains many workarounds for bad firmware in various drives. You should expect more problems from using burncd than from using burncd. AFAIR, burncd is a program written by someone who did ask people from the freebsd mailing lists to use burncd while he at the same time did sell support for a atapicam based cdrecord solution. Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 11:07:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01E31065674 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:07:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4C78FC0A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:07:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5TB73mM046421 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:07:03 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n5TB73YW046417 for freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:07:03 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:07:03 GMT Message-Id: <200906291107.n5TB73YW046417@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:07:04 -0000 Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o kern/135556 multimedia [snd_hda] Sound (mostly) broken w/ snd_hda on -CURRENT o ports/135313 multimedia (patch) Update multimedia/podcatcher to 3.1.4 (Sep 200 o ports/135238 multimedia [patch] OPTIONS support in multimedia/transcode o kern/134767 multimedia [snd_hda] Sigmatel STAC9205X no sound under RELENG_7_2 o ports/134699 multimedia multimedia/gstreamer-ffmpeg - /usr/X11R6/bin: file not o ports/134273 multimedia [patch] multimedia/ffmpeg - avoid crash in multimedia/ o ports/133959 multimedia multimedia/transcode: update o ports/133462 multimedia multimedia/x264 build fails on powerpc o kern/132848 multimedia [snd_emu10kx] driver problem with card init, snd_emu10 o kern/132511 multimedia [snd_hda] Probing ALC888 codec on ASRock K10N78-1394 f o ports/132431 multimedia multimedia/ogmtools dvdxchap are not installed. f kern/132336 multimedia [snd_hda] Realtek ALC888 audio chipset does not work w o ports/131331 multimedia multimedia/ffmpeg: doc/texi2pod.pl bad perl path f ports/130569 multimedia multimedia/gstreamer: gnome-volume-control menu item d o ports/130146 multimedia [PATCH] multimedia/transcode: update to 1.0.7 o ports/129800 multimedia Update port: multimedia/ffmpeg avoid crash in multimed o kern/129604 multimedia [pcm]: Sound stops with error: pcm0:virtual:dsp0.vp0: o ports/128086 multimedia Add schroedinger (dirac) codec support for multimedia/ o ports/127672 multimedia multimedia/transcode won't compile with ImageMagick in o kern/127131 multimedia [bktr] /usr/src/sys/dev/bktr/bktr_os.c, line 469: wron o ports/127084 multimedia multimedia/linux-realplayer is vulnerable o ports/126668 multimedia [patch] multimedia/ffmpeg - quick and dirty symbol bui f ports/126043 multimedia multimedia/ffmpeg: ffplay returns Undefined symbol "pt o ports/126020 multimedia multimedia/transcode depends on wrong version of lzo o ports/126019 multimedia [patch] multimedia/transcode patch revision s kern/125756 multimedia [sound] [patch] cannot detect soft-modem on HDA bus f ports/124727 multimedia multimedia/gstreamer-ffmpeg 0.10.4_1 configure fails f ports/124501 multimedia multimedia/gstreamer-ffmpeg version 0.10.4_1 compile f o kern/124319 multimedia [snd_emu10k1] [regression] Cannot record from second c f ports/122922 multimedia [patch] multimedia/ffmpeg text output is mangled o ports/122305 multimedia multimedia/gstreame - gst-inspect-0.10 hangs when chec o kern/122086 multimedia [sound] maestro sound driver is working, but mixer ini p kern/121156 multimedia [sound] [patch] Turn on inverted external amplifier se o kern/120857 multimedia [snd_emu10k1] snd_emu10k1 driver issues a warning on u o kern/120780 multimedia [snd_hda] snd_hda doesn't work on Dell Latitutude D530 o kern/119973 multimedia [snd_maestro] snd_maestro only works after reload [reg o kern/119931 multimedia [sound] No sound card detected on ASUS "K8V-X SE R2.00 o kern/119759 multimedia [snd_emu10k1] Can not record anything with emu10k1 on o ports/118237 multimedia Ports: multimedia/ffmpeg fix configure option and add o ports/118168 multimedia [patch] multimedia/transcode - Add WITHOUT_X11 and WIT o kern/115666 multimedia [sound] Microphone does not work o kern/115300 multimedia [snd_hda] snd_hda(4) fails to attach on -CURRENT [regr o kern/114760 multimedia [snd_cmi] snd_cmi driver causing sporadic system hangs s kern/113950 multimedia [sound] [patch] [request] add per-vchan mixer support o kern/111767 multimedia [sound] ATI SB450 High Definition Audio Controller sou o kern/107516 multimedia [snd_emu10k1] - skips, clicks and lag after a day of h o kern/107051 multimedia [sound] only 2 channels output works for the ALC850 (o o kern/104874 multimedia [snd_emu10k1] kldload snd_emu10k1 hangs system o kern/104626 multimedia [sound] FreeBSD 6.2 does not support SoundBlaster Audi o kern/101417 multimedia [sound] 4-speakers output not possible on Asus A8V-Del o kern/100859 multimedia [snd_ich] snd_ich broken on GIGABYTE 915 system o kern/98752 multimedia [sound] Intel ich6 82801 FB - on Packard Bell A8810 la o kern/98504 multimedia [sound] Sound is distorted with SB Live 5.1 o kern/98496 multimedia [snd_ich] some functions don't work in my sound kernel o kern/98167 multimedia [sound] [es137x] [patch] ES1370 mixer volumes incorrec o kern/97609 multimedia [sound] Load Sound Module - VIA8233 - fails o kern/97535 multimedia [snd_mss] doesn't work in 6.0-RELEASE and above for Cr o kern/96538 multimedia [sound] emu10k1-driver inverts channels o kern/95086 multimedia [sound] uaudio line in problem with sbdm lx o kern/94279 multimedia [snd_neomagic] snd_neomagic crashes on FreeBSD 5.4 and o kern/93986 multimedia [sound] Acer TravelMate 4652LMi pcm0 channel dead o kern/92512 multimedia [sound] distorted mono output with emu10k1 o kern/87782 multimedia [sound] snd_t4dwave and pcm0:record:0: record interrup s kern/83697 multimedia [snd_mss] [patch] support, docs added for full-duplex, o kern/82043 multimedia [sound] snd_emu10k1 - mixer does not work. o kern/81146 multimedia [sound] Sound isn't working AT ALL for Sis7012 onboard o kern/80632 multimedia [sound] pcm driver missing support for CMI8738 auxilla o kern/79912 multimedia [sound] sound broken for 2 VIA chipsets: interrupt sto o kern/79905 multimedia [sound] sis7018 sound module problem o kern/79678 multimedia [sound] sound works except recording from any source f kern/72995 multimedia [sound] Intel ICH2 (82801BA) - sound nearly inaudible o kern/63204 multimedia [sound] /dev/mixer broken with ESS Maestro-2E (still o o kern/60677 multimedia [sound] [patch] No reaction of volume controy key on I s kern/60599 multimedia [bktr] [partial patch] No sound for ATI TV Wonder (ste o kern/37600 multimedia [sound] [partial patch] t4dwave drive doesn't record. o kern/23546 multimedia [snd_csa] [patch] csa DMA-interrupt problem 76 problems total. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 12:28:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2721065672; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:28:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from flat.berklix.org (flat.berklix.org [83.236.223.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5C68FC1C; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:28:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p549A4CE1.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.76.225]) (authenticated bits=0) by flat.berklix.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5TCSp5r087241; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:28:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5TCShvS009086; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:28:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5TCS5Oe013069; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:28:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <200906291228.n5TCS5Oe013069@fire.js.berklix.net> From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:42:04 +0200." <200906290942.n5T9g4Xi008622@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:28:05 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Joerg Schilling , freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, marius@freebsd.org, dfpleal@gmail.com Subject: Re: cant burn a cd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:28:58 -0000 Hi, re my: > Hi marius@FreeBSD.org > cc freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org > Current ports/sysutils/cdrtools/Makefile lists you as maintainer: > PORTVERSION?= 2.01 > MAINTAINER= marius@FreeBSD.org > Forwarded below from author of cdrecord: > -------- > > From: Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) > Joerg Schilling wrote: > > Hi, > > what is the reason for using a 5 year old cdrtools version? > > Are there no updates on FreeBSD? > > BTW: the other problem may be a result of using media that is unsupported by > > the drive. > > Jörg cd /pub/FreeBSD/branches/-current/ports/sysutils/ grep MAINTAINER cdrtools*/Makefile cdrtools-devel/Makefile:MAINTAINER= marius@FreeBSD.org cdrtools/Makefile:MAINTAINER= marius@FreeBSD.org cdrtools/distinfo: cdrtools-2.01.tar.bz2 cdrtools-cjk/distinfo: cdrtools-2.01.tar.bz2 cdrtools-devel/distinfo: cdrtools-2.01.01a60.tar.bz2 cdrtools-cjk/pkg-descr: http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/cdrecord.html Proxy Error Joerg, may I suggest send-pr to update to eg your http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/cdrecord.html Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSDUnixLinux C Prog Admin SysEng Consult Munich www.berklix.com Mail plain ASCII text. HTML & Base64 text are spam. www.asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 13:42:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09AC5106566C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:42:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Schilling9ab33xy531fokus.fraunhofer.de@bounce.antispameurope.com) Received: from relay02-haj2.antispameurope.com (relay02-haj2.antispameurope.com [83.246.65.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B583E8FC25 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:42:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Schilling9ab33xy531fokus.fraunhofer.de@bounce.antispameurope.com) Received: by relay02-haj2.antispameurope.com (ASE-Secure-MTA, from userid 1000) id 81A206F05CC; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:42:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de [195.37.77.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay02-haj2.antispameurope.com (ASE-Secure-MTA) with ESMTP id BE4A56F05CA; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:42:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de (bohr.fokus.fraunhofer.de [10.147.9.231]) by pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n5TDgZgT028652; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:42:35 +0200 (MEST) Received: from rigel ([10.147.65.195]) by EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:42:35 +0200 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:42:35 +0200 From: Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) To: jhs@berklix.com Message-ID: <4a48c4cb.wlEyti5yXpj5Vbm9%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> References: <200906291228.n5TCS5Oe013069@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: <200906291228.n5TCS5Oe013069@fire.js.berklix.net> User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2009 13:42:35.0150 (UTC) FILETIME=[758EBAE0:01C9F8BF] Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, marius@freebsd.org, dfpleal@gmail.com Subject: Re: cant burn a cd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:42:42 -0000 "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > > > what is the reason for using a 5 year old cdrtools version? > > > Are there no updates on FreeBSD? > > > BTW: the other problem may be a result of using media that is unsupported by > > > the drive. > > > Jörg > > cd /pub/FreeBSD/branches/-current/ports/sysutils/ > grep MAINTAINER cdrtools*/Makefile > cdrtools-devel/Makefile:MAINTAINER= marius@FreeBSD.org > cdrtools/Makefile:MAINTAINER= marius@FreeBSD.org > cdrtools/distinfo: cdrtools-2.01.tar.bz2 > cdrtools-cjk/distinfo: cdrtools-2.01.tar.bz2 > cdrtools-devel/distinfo: cdrtools-2.01.01a60.tar.bz2 > > cdrtools-cjk/pkg-descr: > http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/cdrecord.html > Proxy Error > > Joerg, may I suggest send-pr to update to eg your > http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/cdrecord.html Hi, could you please explain me what "send-pr" is? Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 14:04:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B7D1065676; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:04:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from flat.berklix.org (flat.berklix.org [83.236.223.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0118FC0C; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p549A626E.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.98.110]) (authenticated bits=0) by flat.berklix.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5TE3wWn088663; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:04:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5TE3krb010267; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:03:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5TE3BAj017974; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:03:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <200906291403.n5TE3BAj017974@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:42:35 +0200." <4a48c4cb.wlEyti5yXpj5Vbm9%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:03:11 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, marius@freebsd.org, dfpleal@gmail.com Subject: Re: cant burn a cd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:04:11 -0000 > Hi, > could you please explain me what "send-pr" is? > Jörg Hi Joerg, Sorry, I recall your prime development *IX not FreeBSD, so: Summary: man send-pr - send problem report (PR) to a central support site /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/send-pr A script that collects a few environment variables, & a few categories & mails off a report. FreeBSD project uses it for submitting patch request, bug reports etc (It will probably soon be replaced by something being written under contract, paid for by FreeBSD foundation) I will send you an off list copy of send-pr source & will file a send-pr & CC you, you can then just mail same address with any follow up (even if you may not be mailing from a BSD platform). Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSDUnixLinux C Prog Admin SysEng Consult Munich www.berklix.com Mail plain ASCII text. HTML & Base64 text are spam. www.asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 18:44:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFCD1065687 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:44:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marius@alchemy.franken.de) Received: from alchemy.franken.de (alchemy.franken.de [194.94.249.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CCB98FC17 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:44:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marius@alchemy.franken.de) Received: from alchemy.franken.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alchemy.franken.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/ALCHEMY.FRANKEN.DE) with ESMTP id n5TIL2cH027006; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:21:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marius@alchemy.franken.de) Received: (from marius@localhost) by alchemy.franken.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n5TIL1dR027005; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:21:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marius) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:21:01 +0200 From: Marius Strobl To: "Julian H. Stacey" Message-ID: <20090629182101.GC12426@alchemy.franken.de> References: <4a487b0b.il/42Wi7dzHBxk4X%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <200906290942.n5T9g4Xi008622@fire.js.berklix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200906290942.n5T9g4Xi008622@fire.js.berklix.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Joerg Schilling , freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, dfpleal@gmail.com Subject: Re: cant burn a cd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:44:52 -0000 On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:42:04AM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Hi marius@FreeBSD.org > cc freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org > Current ports/sysutils/cdrtools/Makefile lists you as maintainer: > PORTVERSION?= 2.01 > MAINTAINER= marius@FreeBSD.org > Forwarded below from author of cdrecord: > -------- > > > From: Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) > > Joerg Schilling wrote: > > Hi, > > > > what is the reason for using a 5 year old cdrtools version? > > > > Are there no updates on FreeBSD? > The main reason for still defaulting to cdrtools 2.01 is to provider a known-good mkisofs for release engineering, especially since we've already been bitten by IIRC a third-party archiver in the past. My experience was that the 2.01.01 alpha series mkisofs didn't always seem suitable for this purpose, actually even the cdrtools release notes discouraged its use from time to time. The other reason is that for over a year now the 2.01.01 alpha release notes indicate a non-alpha release being imminent, i.e. it didn't look like we'd use 2.01 for yet another year: <...> NEW features of cdrtools-2.01.01a41: ******* NOTE: cdrtools is currently in a state just before a new major release. <...> Note that up to 2.01.01a27 the release notes also sounded like 2.01.01 would only be a minor update to 2.01 released "soon". Anyway, those requiring the latest alpha version always can install the cdrtools-devel port instead. Marius From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 19:36:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1C1106566C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:36:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Schilling9ab33xy531fokus.fraunhofer.de@bounce.antispameurope.com) Received: from relay02-haj2.antispameurope.com (relay02-haj2.antispameurope.com [83.246.65.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D658FC13 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:36:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Schilling9ab33xy531fokus.fraunhofer.de@bounce.antispameurope.com) Received: by relay02-haj2.antispameurope.com (ASE-Secure-MTA, from userid 1000) id C1DDD6F05DD; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:36:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de [195.37.77.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay02-haj2.antispameurope.com (ASE-Secure-MTA) with ESMTP id 702366F05DD; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:36:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de (bohr.fokus.fraunhofer.de [10.147.9.231]) by pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n5TJaQ67004885; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:36:26 +0200 (MEST) Received: from rigel ([10.147.65.195]) by EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:36:26 +0200 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:36:26 +0200 From: Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) To: marius@alchemy.franken.de, jhs@berklix.com Message-ID: <4a4917ba.elwo9W4HBK8UeeBz%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> References: <4a487b0b.il/42Wi7dzHBxk4X%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <200906290942.n5T9g4Xi008622@fire.js.berklix.net> <20090629182101.GC12426@alchemy.franken.de> In-Reply-To: <20090629182101.GC12426@alchemy.franken.de> User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2009 19:36:26.0198 (UTC) FILETIME=[E43F8F60:01C9F8F0] Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org, dfpleal@gmail.com Subject: Re: cant burn a cd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:36:29 -0000 Marius Strobl wrote: > > > Are there no updates on FreeBSD? > > > > The main reason for still defaulting to cdrtools 2.01 is > to provider a known-good mkisofs for release engineering, > especially since we've already been bitten by IIRC a > third-party archiver in the past. My experience was that Then I cannot understand why FreeBSD still stays with the old version of mkisofs. Stying with the old version means staying with old bugs. > the 2.01.01 alpha series mkisofs didn't always seem > suitable for this purpose, actually even the cdrtools > release notes discouraged its use from time to time. There was a period of less than 6 months starting from August 2006 where I replaced the buggy GNU getopt_long() with my mature getargs() that resulted in replacing 3000 old lines by 1000 new lines and introduced a few temporary incompatibilities. > The other reason is that for over a year now the 2.01.01 > alpha release notes indicate a non-alpha release being > imminent, i.e. it didn't look like we'd use 2.01 for > yet another year: > <...> > NEW features of cdrtools-2.01.01a41: I don't understand - sorry. 2.01 is dead since more than 5 years, I don't recommend to use it anymore since more than 2 years. Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 12:32:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7773C1065673 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:32:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Schilling9ab33xy531fokus.fraunhofer.de@bounce.antispameurope.com) Received: from relay01-haj2.antispameurope.com (relay01-haj2.antispameurope.com [83.246.65.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA9B8FC1C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:32:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Schilling9ab33xy531fokus.fraunhofer.de@bounce.antispameurope.com) Received: by relay01-haj2.antispameurope.com (ASE-Secure-MTA, from userid 1000) id 6FB6E9417C; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:32:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de [195.37.77.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay01-haj2.antispameurope.com (ASE-Secure-MTA) with ESMTP id D2100940FB; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:32:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de (bohr.fokus.fraunhofer.de [10.147.9.231]) by pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n5UCWrYI004432; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:32:53 +0200 (MEST) Received: from rigel ([10.147.65.195]) by EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:32:53 +0200 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:32:53 +0200 From: Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) To: avg@icyb.net.ua Message-ID: <4a4a05f5.7bXPwuzCTABxJvS6%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> References: <4a487b0b.il/42Wi7dzHBxk4X%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <4A4A03C3.6070903@icyb.net.ua> In-Reply-To: <4A4A03C3.6070903@icyb.net.ua> User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2009 12:32:53.0737 (UTC) FILETIME=[E3A77D90:01C9F97E] Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, dfpleal@gmail.com Subject: Re: cant burn a cd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:32:57 -0000 Andriy Gapon wrote: > I am confused - in none of your postings I found what is the latest version of > cdrtools and where it can obtained. > Could you please help us with this? > > I looked here: > http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/cdrecord.html If you lookd at the web site.... > followed "Old/Stable" link: > ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ > and it seems that version 2.01 from 2004 is still the greatest one (in the > version-comparison sense). ....you should know that the latest version is 2.01.01a60 What is the reason for following the "Old/Stable" link? 2.01 is completely outdated and should be avoided because of many bugs (e.g. in mkisofs). Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 12:42:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2452C1065673 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:42:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63DDE8FC1B for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:42:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from odyssey.starpoint.kiev.ua (alpha-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.101]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id PAA11195; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:23:31 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Message-ID: <4A4A03C3.6070903@icyb.net.ua> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:23:31 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090406) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joerg Schilling References: <4a487b0b.il/42Wi7dzHBxk4X%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> In-Reply-To: <4a487b0b.il/42Wi7dzHBxk4X%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, dfpleal@gmail.com Subject: Re: cant burn a cd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:42:35 -0000 on 29/06/2009 11:27 Joerg Schilling said the following: > Hi, > > what is the reason for using a 5 year old cdrtools version? > > Are there no updates on FreeBSD? > > BTW: the other problem may be a result of using media that is unsupported by > the drive. > Jörg, I am confused - in none of your postings I found what is the latest version of cdrtools and where it can obtained. Could you please help us with this? I looked here: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/cdrecord.html followed "Old/Stable" link: ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ and it seems that version 2.01 from 2004 is still the greatest one (in the version-comparison sense). -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 12:42:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CDF1065672 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:42:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8288FC1E for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:42:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from odyssey.starpoint.kiev.ua (alpha-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.101]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id PAA11526; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:42:52 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Message-ID: <4A4A084B.2050405@icyb.net.ua> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:42:51 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090406) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joerg Schilling References: <4a487b0b.il/42Wi7dzHBxk4X%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <4A4A03C3.6070903@icyb.net.ua> <4a4a05f5.7bXPwuzCTABxJvS6%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> In-Reply-To: <4a4a05f5.7bXPwuzCTABxJvS6%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, dfpleal@gmail.com Subject: Re: cant burn a cd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:42:59 -0000 on 30/06/2009 15:32 Joerg Schilling said the following: > Andriy Gapon wrote: > >> I am confused - in none of your postings I found what is the latest version of >> cdrtools and where it can obtained. >> Could you please help us with this? >> >> I looked here: >> http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/cdrecord.html > > If you lookd at the web site.... > > >> followed "Old/Stable" link: >> ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ >> and it seems that version 2.01 from 2004 is still the greatest one (in the >> version-comparison sense). > > ....you should know that the latest version is 2.01.01a60 > > What is the reason for following the "Old/Stable" link? > > 2.01 is completely outdated and should be avoided because of many bugs (e.g. in > mkisofs). Sorry if sounded like a smart-ass, I didn't intend that. I had suspicions about "Old" part of the link, but I was looking for "Stable". Maybe we just see different things behind words like "alpha", "beta" and "stable". But FreeBSD ports typically track stable releases of third-party programs, only in exceptional cases we create "-devel" versions of the ports that track betas or other kind of WIP. I realize that there is a new trend of "permanently beta" software (GOOG), but I think that it would be beneficial to the community of users of your software if you'd split Old and Stable categories and declared some recent version of cdrtools to be a Stable Release. -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 13:11:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B037E1065688 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:11:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Schilling9ab33xy531fokus.fraunhofer.de@bounce.antispameurope.com) Received: from relay01-haj2.antispameurope.com (relay01-haj2.antispameurope.com [83.246.65.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39DE58FC20 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:11:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Schilling9ab33xy531fokus.fraunhofer.de@bounce.antispameurope.com) Received: by relay01-haj2.antispameurope.com (ASE-Secure-MTA, from userid 1000) id DD31A9418B; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:11:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de [195.37.77.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay01-haj2.antispameurope.com (ASE-Secure-MTA) with ESMTP id 3DE49940FE; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:11:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de (bohr.fokus.fraunhofer.de [10.147.9.231]) by pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n5UDBmte005410; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:11:48 +0200 (MEST) Received: from rigel ([10.147.65.195]) by EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:11:48 +0200 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:11:48 +0200 From: Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) To: avg@icyb.net.ua Message-ID: <4a4a0f14.ylvYB6h9MqEdvjIP%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> References: <4a487b0b.il/42Wi7dzHBxk4X%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <4A4A03C3.6070903@icyb.net.ua> <4a4a05f5.7bXPwuzCTABxJvS6%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <4A4A084B.2050405@icyb.net.ua> In-Reply-To: <4A4A084B.2050405@icyb.net.ua> User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2009 13:11:48.0375 (UTC) FILETIME=[5334FA70:01C9F984] Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, dfpleal@gmail.com Subject: Re: cant burn a cd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:11:52 -0000 Andriy Gapon wrote: > > What is the reason for following the "Old/Stable" link? > > > > 2.01 is completely outdated and should be avoided because of many bugs (e.g. in > > mkisofs). > > Sorry if sounded like a smart-ass, I didn't intend that. > I had suspicions about "Old" part of the link, but I was looking for "Stable". "stable" means dead and "will not change". > Maybe we just see different things behind words like "alpha", "beta" and "stable". > But FreeBSD ports typically track stable releases of third-party programs, only in > exceptional cases we create "-devel" versions of the ports that track betas or > other kind of WIP. There is "pre-alpha" which may happen under special conditions, e.g. after a bigger change was introduced. There is no real difference between alpha and beta. "stable" as alias for "dead" was already mentioned. Decent software development always tries to be 100% bug free. In a decent software development, interface changes (if needed at all) are announced many years before they are implemented. For this reason, people only should get into problems if they ignore announced changed for more than 3-5 years. > I realize that there is a new trend of "permanently beta" software (GOOG), but I > think that it would be beneficial to the community of users of your software if > you'd split Old and Stable categories and declared some recent version of cdrtools > to be a Stable Release. There seems to be a general trend towards longer so called "development cycles". Sun did e.g. publish Solaris 10 in February 2005 and there is still no Solaris 11. The OpenSource development is a smoothly moving target and you cannot synchronize different projects anyway. If you follow the rule to always publish bug-free versions if possible, people can live with this paradigm. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 16:08:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F77F106567C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:08:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rick@kiwi-computer.com) Received: from hamlet.setfilepointer.com (hamlet.SetFilePointer.com [63.224.10.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 261088FC1A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:08:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rick@kiwi-computer.com) Received: (qmail 39890 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2009 11:08:10 -0500 Received: from keira.kiwi-computer.com (HELO kiwi-computer.com) (63.224.10.3) by hamlet.setfilepointer.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 2009 11:08:10 -0500 Received: (qmail 31690 invoked by uid 2001); 30 Jun 2009 16:08:09 -0000 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:08:09 -0500 From: "Rick C. Petty" To: Joerg Schilling Message-ID: <20090630160809.GA31594@keira.kiwi-computer.com> References: <4a487b0b.il/42Wi7dzHBxk4X%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <4A4A03C3.6070903@icyb.net.ua> <4a4a05f5.7bXPwuzCTABxJvS6%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4a4a05f5.7bXPwuzCTABxJvS6%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, avg@icyb.net.ua, dfpleal@gmail.com Subject: Re: cant burn a cd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rick-freebsd2008@kiwi-computer.com List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:08:11 -0000 On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 02:32:53PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Andriy Gapon wrote: > > > I am confused - in none of your postings I found what is the latest version of > > cdrtools and where it can obtained. > > Could you please help us with this? > > > > I looked here: > > http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/cdrecord.html > > If you lookd at the web site.... He did look at the website. > > followed "Old/Stable" link: > > ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ > > and it seems that version 2.01 from 2004 is still the greatest one (in the > > version-comparison sense). > > ....you should know that the latest version is 2.01.01a60 The port available in sysutils/cdrtools-devel is 2.01.01a59, so what's the big deal? > What is the reason for following the "Old/Stable" link? Probably he was following the "stable" part. This implies that the newer versions are not stable, which is why there's a cdrtools-devel port. > 2.01 is completely outdated and should be avoided because of many bugs (e.g. in > mkisofs). It's not always the case that newer versions are more stable and have fewer bugs. In fact, cdrtools in particular has been that way in the past, where mkisofs(1) created ISOs which were buggy (in that they were not even mountable, or sometimes were mountable but some of the file pointers went past the end of the ISO). In those times, I've had to drop back a version or two to get a decent ISO. Maybe this is no longer the case since 2.01. Maybe you should provide a short summary of the known issues in 2.01 that are fixed in 2.01.01a60 and some assurances that the latter produces broken images left often than the former. Also it would probably help if you were more civil about it. Andriy asked a reasonable question and made a reasonable assumption about the term "stable". -- Rick C. Petty From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 19:13:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2396E10656FB for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:13:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Schilling9ab33xy531fokus.fraunhofer.de@bounce.antispameurope.com) Received: from relay01-haj2.antispameurope.com (relay01-haj2.antispameurope.com [83.246.65.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06D88FC28 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:13:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Schilling9ab33xy531fokus.fraunhofer.de@bounce.antispameurope.com) Received: by relay01-haj2.antispameurope.com (ASE-Secure-MTA, from userid 1000) id D1EF894137; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:13:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de [195.37.77.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay01-haj2.antispameurope.com (ASE-Secure-MTA) with ESMTP id F328E94137; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:13:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de (bohr.fokus.fraunhofer.de [10.147.9.231]) by pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n5UJDahM012218; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:13:36 +0200 (MEST) Received: from rigel ([10.147.65.195]) by EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:13:36 +0200 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:13:36 +0200 From: Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) To: rick-freebsd2008@kiwi-computer.com Message-ID: <4a4a63e0.riuxFeNZRJTjkScH%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> References: <4a487b0b.il/42Wi7dzHBxk4X%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <4A4A03C3.6070903@icyb.net.ua> <4a4a05f5.7bXPwuzCTABxJvS6%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20090630160809.GA31594@keira.kiwi-computer.com> In-Reply-To: <20090630160809.GA31594@keira.kiwi-computer.com> User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2009 19:13:36.0480 (UTC) FILETIME=[DE3EEE00:01C9F9B6] Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, avg@icyb.net.ua, dfpleal@gmail.com Subject: Re: cant burn a cd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:13:41 -0000 "Rick C. Petty" wrote: > > > followed "Old/Stable" link: > > > ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ > > > and it seems that version 2.01 from 2004 is still the greatest one (in the > > > version-comparison sense). > > > > ....you should know that the latest version is 2.01.01a60 > > The port available in sysutils/cdrtools-devel is 2.01.01a59, so what's the > big deal? It is not a big deal if this version is installed by default ;-) > > What is the reason for following the "Old/Stable" link? > > Probably he was following the "stable" part. This implies that the newer > versions are not stable, which is why there's a cdrtools-devel port. As I mentioned before: stable means dead -> no longer taken care of. > > 2.01 is completely outdated and should be avoided because of many bugs (e.g. in > > mkisofs). > > It's not always the case that newer versions are more stable and have fewer > bugs. In fact, cdrtools in particular has been that way in the past, where > mkisofs(1) created ISOs which were buggy (in that they were not even > mountable, or sometimes were mountable but some of the file pointers went > past the end of the ISO). In those times, I've had to drop back a version During the past 5 years, I fixed dozens of bugs in mkisofs from the early days of mkisofs. A bug that matches your description did never exist. > or two to get a decent ISO. Maybe this is no longer the case since 2.01. > Maybe you should provide a short summary of the known issues in 2.01 that > are fixed in 2.01.01a60 and some assurances that the latter produces broken > images left often than the former. As mentioned above, such a problem did never exist. If you did observe such problems, you did not use mkisofs but something else. Did you use the defective fork from Debian? Did someone else modified your local version? > Also it would probably help if you were more civil about it. Andriy asked > a reasonable question and made a reasonable assumption about the term > "stable". I was and I am still very friendly and explained the meaning of the word "stable". What is your problem? Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 21:47:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7501065672 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:47:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rick@kiwi-computer.com) Received: from hamlet.setfilepointer.com (hamlet.SetFilePointer.com [63.224.10.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 020398FC0C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:47:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rick@kiwi-computer.com) Received: (qmail 38597 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2009 16:47:15 -0500 Received: from keira.kiwi-computer.com (HELO kiwi-computer.com) (63.224.10.3) by hamlet.setfilepointer.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 2009 16:47:15 -0500 Received: (qmail 34354 invoked by uid 2001); 30 Jun 2009 21:47:15 -0000 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:47:15 -0500 From: "Rick C. Petty" To: Joerg Schilling Message-ID: <20090630214715.GB33849@keira.kiwi-computer.com> References: <4a487b0b.il/42Wi7dzHBxk4X%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <4A4A03C3.6070903@icyb.net.ua> <4a4a05f5.7bXPwuzCTABxJvS6%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20090630160809.GA31594@keira.kiwi-computer.com> <4a4a63e0.riuxFeNZRJTjkScH%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4a4a63e0.riuxFeNZRJTjkScH%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cant burn a cd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rick-freebsd2008@kiwi-computer.com List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:47:16 -0000 On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 09:13:36PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > "Rick C. Petty" wrote: > > > The port available in sysutils/cdrtools-devel is 2.01.01a59, so what's the > > big deal? > > It is not a big deal if this version is installed by default ;-) What do you mean "by default"? sysutils/cdrtools is not part of the base installation of FreeBSD, that's why it's a port. At some point down the line you installed sysutils/cdrtools. I'm just suggesting that you should have installed sysutils/cdrtools-devel instead. > > > What is the reason for following the "Old/Stable" link? > > > > Probably he was following the "stable" part. This implies that the newer > > versions are not stable, which is why there's a cdrtools-devel port. > > As I mentioned before: stable means dead -> no longer taken care of. Yes, we all know your interpretation of the world "stable", which is not the expected meaning that FreeBSD folks generally intend when they use that term. I certainly would not call RELENG_7 "dead". When someone sees one link that says "stable" (not one stating "dead"), they assume that the opposite means "unstable". I suspect the port maintainer for cdrtools made this assumption and choose "stability" over "possibly not tested as much". > > > 2.01 is completely outdated and should be avoided because of many bugs (e.g. in > > > mkisofs). > > > > It's not always the case that newer versions are more stable and have fewer > > bugs. In fact, cdrtools in particular has been that way in the past, where > > mkisofs(1) created ISOs which were buggy (in that they were not even > > mountable, or sometimes were mountable but some of the file pointers went > > past the end of the ISO). In those times, I've had to drop back a version > > During the past 5 years, I fixed dozens of bugs in mkisofs from the early days > of mkisofs. A bug that matches your description did never exist. That's a pretty far-fetched statement. I will assume that you mean that this was not a bug that you fixed or that you did an exhaustive search through the reported bugs and did not find such a report. I can assure you that such a bug did exist around the FreeBSD 5.0 or 5.1 timeframe (six years ago). I had two vanilla machines building release images and one machine's ISOs sometimes failed. The two boxes had slightly different cdrtools versions installed. I downgraded the one and things worked correctly. I'm not 100% positive, but looking at my distfiles archive from around that time, I believe the working version was 2.00.3 and the broken version was 2.01a31. I can't be too sure because I lost a number of distfiles in my archive. My test case to prove the cause of the issue was something like: # mkisofs -v -pad -r -hide-rr-moved -o test.iso /5.1/R/cdrom/disc1/ # mdconfig -au0 -f test.iso # mount -t cd9660 /dev/md0 /cdrom # find /cdrom -type f -exec dd if='{}' of=/dev/null bs=1m \; When it worked, the find generated no output. When it was broken, I would see I/O errors IIRC. > > or two to get a decent ISO. Maybe this is no longer the case since 2.01. > > Maybe you should provide a short summary of the known issues in 2.01 that > > are fixed in 2.01.01a60 and some assurances that the latter produces broken > > images left often than the former. > > As mentioned above, such a problem did never exist. > > If you did observe such problems, you did not use mkisofs but something else. > Did you use the defective fork from Debian? Did someone else modified your > local version? Nope, just a vanilla FreeBSD install and some ports needed to build a release, including cdrtools. Note that my statements were not intended to criticize cdrtools, just that I sympathize with port maintainers' desire to keep a more "stablized" version around for things that are essential, such as ports used for building a release. Pardon the pun, but when you've been *burned* once, you're more careful to avoid any repeats. And I burned a lot of coasters that day before I downgraded my cdrtools installation. > > Also it would probably help if you were more civil about it. Andriy asked > > a reasonable question and made a reasonable assumption about the term > > "stable". > > I was and I am still very friendly and explained the meaning of the word > "stable". What is your problem? It seemed like you were being demanding from people who are volunteering their time. Certainly your previous email seemed to me that you were being somewhat arrogant as well. However I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you are attempting to be civil and I fully retract my statement. Cheers, -- Rick C. Petty From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 00:35:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789C21065679 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from flat.berklix.org (flat.berklix.org [83.236.223.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA3E8FC29 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:35:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p549A6528.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.101.40]) (authenticated bits=0) by flat.berklix.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n610Z2PA019296; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 02:35:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n610Q6Ya026919; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 02:26:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n610Pdg2057882; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 02:25:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <200907010025.n610Pdg2057882@fire.js.berklix.net> To: rick-freebsd2008@kiwi-computer.com From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:47:15 CDT." <20090630214715.GB33849@keira.kiwi-computer.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:25:39 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Joerg Schilling , freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cant burn a cd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:35:08 -0000 Hi Rick Best re-read the thread from the beginning to avoid possible confusion. > What do you mean "by default"? sysutils/cdrtools is not part of the base > installation of FreeBSD, that's why it's a port. At some point down the > line you installed sysutils/cdrtools. I'm just suggesting that you should > have installed sysutils/cdrtools-devel instead. Original poster (installer) was Daniel, not Joerg. Joerg is author of architecture neutral cdrtools sources. > Yes, we all know your interpretation of the world "stable", which is not the > expected meaning that FreeBSD folks generally intend when they use that > term. Agreed. Joerg has an unusual use of the word stable, but then when he started using that usage of stable, he didnt need to conform to FreeBSD usage of word stable as: He was I think, a mostly Linux based developer of a cross platform source that also runs on *BSD. Even in FreeBSD, Stable only later came to mean the common English meaning of reliable, I remember several times people asserting all Stable meant was that the API (libs etc) avoided sudden changes like in current, didn't back then mean make world wouldnt break etc. > I suspect the port maintainer for cdrtools made > this assumption and choose "stability" over "possibly not tested as much". Marius is MAINTAINER= of 2/3 ports wrappers, & he wrote: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:21:01 +0200 Message-id: <20090629182101.GC12426@alchemy.franken.de> The main reason for still defaulting to cdrtools 2.01 is .... > It seemed like you were being demanding from people who are volunteering > their time. Joerg & Marius contributed time respectively writing cdrtools & wrappers. Thanks Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSD Unix Linux C Sys. Eng. Consultant Munich http://berklix.com Mail in plain ASCII text, HTML & Base64 are spam. http://asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 03:02:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E872A1065673 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 03:02:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rick@kiwi-computer.com) Received: from hamlet.setfilepointer.com (hamlet.SetFilePointer.com [63.224.10.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F5C48FC0A for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 03:02:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rick@kiwi-computer.com) Received: (qmail 27519 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2009 22:02:16 -0500 Received: from keira.kiwi-computer.com (HELO kiwi-computer.com) (63.224.10.3) by hamlet.setfilepointer.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 2009 22:02:16 -0500 Received: (qmail 36851 invoked by uid 2001); 1 Jul 2009 03:02:16 -0000 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:02:16 -0500 From: "Rick C. Petty" To: Alexander Motin Message-ID: <20090701030216.GA36830@keira.kiwi-computer.com> References: <1242609781.00113421.1242598202@10.7.7.3> <4A122B72.80206@FreeBSD.org> <20090519184150.GA990@keira.kiwi-computer.com> <20090605020054.GA67365@keira.kiwi-computer.com> <4A28D79C.6070406@FreeBSD.org> <20090614050211.GA67556@keira.kiwi-computer.com> <20090614062157.GA67705@keira.kiwi-computer.com> <4A34A663.2010503@FreeBSD.org> <20090614184754.GA72664@keira.kiwi-computer.com> <4A428C84.9030002@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A428C84.9030002@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: snd_hda works on i386, fails on amd64 (RELENG_7) X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rick-freebsd2008@kiwi-computer.com List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:02:18 -0000 On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:28:52PM +0300, Alexander Motin wrote: > Rick C. Petty wrote: > >I added code so I can override this setting using device.hints. Could you > >maybe see about getting the following code committed? Feel free to fix it > >up as necessary. Thank you, > > I have just committed different patch to the 8-CURRENT: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/sound/pci/hda/hdac.c.diff?r2=1.107&r1=1.106&f=u > > Try it please. It took a bit of persuasion since the patch didn't apply cleanly to RELENG_7, but it works for me. Will this be MFC'd? -- Rick C. Petty From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 11:05:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92ACD1065672 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Schilling9ab33xy531fokus.fraunhofer.de@bounce.antispameurope.com) Received: from relay04-haj2.antispameurope.com (relay04-haj2.antispameurope.com [83.246.65.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D29B8FC18 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Schilling9ab33xy531fokus.fraunhofer.de@bounce.antispameurope.com) Received: by relay04-haj2.antispameurope.com (ASE-Secure-MTA, from userid 1000) id BB49E5EC193; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:04:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de [195.37.77.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay04-haj2.antispameurope.com (ASE-Secure-MTA) with ESMTP id 63E775EC16F; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:04:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de (bohr.fokus.fraunhofer.de [10.147.9.231]) by pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n61B4vBr010786; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:04:58 +0200 (MEST) Received: from rigel ([10.147.65.195]) by EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:04:58 +0200 Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:04:53 +0200 From: Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) To: rick-freebsd2008@kiwi-computer.com Message-ID: <4a4b42d5.1UBne/gJn8XQ2OG2%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> References: <4a487b0b.il/42Wi7dzHBxk4X%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <4A4A03C3.6070903@icyb.net.ua> <4a4a05f5.7bXPwuzCTABxJvS6%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20090630160809.GA31594@keira.kiwi-computer.com> <4a4a63e0.riuxFeNZRJTjkScH%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20090630214715.GB33849@keira.kiwi-computer.com> In-Reply-To: <20090630214715.GB33849@keira.kiwi-computer.com> User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2009 11:04:58.0184 (UTC) FILETIME=[C597BC80:01C9FA3B] Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cant burn a cd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:05:02 -0000 "Rick C. Petty" wrote: > > It is not a big deal if this version is installed by default ;-) > > What do you mean "by default"? sysutils/cdrtools is not part of the base > installation of FreeBSD, that's why it's a port. At some point down the > line you installed sysutils/cdrtools. I'm just suggesting that you should > have installed sysutils/cdrtools-devel instead. If pepole who try to install cdrtools are guided to the outdated versions, this is not a good idea. > > As I mentioned before: stable means dead -> no longer taken care of. > > Yes, we all know your interpretation of the world "stable", which is not the > expected meaning that FreeBSD folks generally intend when they use that > term. I certainly would not call RELENG_7 "dead". When someone sees one > link that says "stable" (not one stating "dead"), they assume that the > opposite means "unstable". I suspect the port maintainer for cdrtools made > this assumption and choose "stability" over "possibly not tested as much". I did not talk about FreeBSD but about cdrtools. You are confusing unrelated information. > > During the past 5 years, I fixed dozens of bugs in mkisofs from the early days > > of mkisofs. A bug that matches your description did never exist. > > That's a pretty far-fetched statement. I will assume that you mean that No, this is a statement that is aligned with reality. Your claim however is far-fetched.... You tell me that there was a problem but such a problem has never been reported nor fixed. > this was not a bug that you fixed or that you did an exhaustive search > through the reported bugs and did not find such a report. I can assure you > that such a bug did exist around the FreeBSD 5.0 or 5.1 timeframe (six So may it be a bug in FreeBSD 5.0 or 5.1? > years ago). I had two vanilla machines building release images and one > machine's ISOs sometimes failed. The two boxes had slightly different > cdrtools versions installed. I downgraded the one and things worked > correctly. I'm not 100% positive, but looking at my distfiles archive from > around that time, I believe the working version was 2.00.3 and the broken > version was 2.01a31. I can't be too sure because I lost a number of > distfiles in my archive. As I mentioned already, such a problem has never been reported nor fixed. If you were right, the problem still must be in mkisofs. Do you have a command chain to repeat the problem? > My test case to prove the cause of the issue was something like: > > # mkisofs -v -pad -r -hide-rr-moved -o test.iso /5.1/R/cdrom/disc1/ > # mdconfig -au0 -f test.iso > # mount -t cd9660 /dev/md0 /cdrom > # find /cdrom -type f -exec dd if='{}' of=/dev/null bs=1m \; > > When it worked, the find generated no output. When it was broken, I would > see I/O errors IIRC. If there really was a problem, why didn't sou send a bug report? Your problems could have many causes: - a general bug in FreeBSD - a buf in the "md" driver - a bug introduced by other peoople in your local copy of mkisofs. If you give me the chance to repeat it on Solaris, I am willing to believe that there is a problem and I will fix it as soon as possible. For now: I did never see any related problem, so I tend to believe that such a problem did never exist. > > If you did observe such problems, you did not use mkisofs but something else. > > Did you use the defective fork from Debian? Did someone else modified your > > local version? > > Nope, just a vanilla FreeBSD install and some ports needed to build a > release, including cdrtools. ??? You don't need "some ports" to build cdrtools. Cdrtools come with a makefile system that allows it to compile out of the box on aprox. 30 platforms without any manual help by just typing "make" (better "smake"). Did you use an unmodified original cdrtools source? > Note that my statements were not intended to criticize cdrtools, just that > I sympathize with port maintainers' desire to keep a more "stablized" > version around for things that are essential, such as ports used for > building a release. Pardon the pun, but when you've been *burned* once, > you're more careful to avoid any repeats. And I burned a lot of coasters > that day before I downgraded my cdrtools installation. So try to find the real reason for your problem..... The way cdrtools is developed gives you the grant that you get constantly evolving and less buggy bug still compatible version if you upgrade to the latest source in: ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/ There are a few exceptions, and in such a case, there is a marker in the announcement file. The last time this happened was between 2.01.01a12 and 2.01.01a27 when the buggy GNU getopt_long() was replaced by the more mature getargs() and thousands of lines of code have been changed. The general rule for creating a new cdrtools release is to either only fix bugs or to add new features without adding bugs to previously working parts. This allows you to upgrade to the latest source, _anytime_ there is not a warning message in the AN* files. > > I was and I am still very friendly and explained the meaning of the word > > "stable". What is your problem? > > It seemed like you were being demanding from people who are volunteering > their time. Certainly your previous email seemed to me that you were being > somewhat arrogant as well. However I will give you the benefit of the > doubt that you are attempting to be civil and I fully retract my statement. If you call a person "arrogant" just because he knows what he is talking about, you need to fix your view on the world. If you did not notice this fact: the oldest source parts in cdrtools that I wrote are more than 25 years old. I am not an OSS newbie... BTW: I am contributing _my_ time for you and I thus expect that people who use my software are collaborative with reporting bugs and discussions in general. 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Stacey" wrote: > > Yes, we all know your interpretation of the world "stable", which is not the > > expected meaning that FreeBSD folks generally intend when they use that > > term. > > Agreed. Joerg has an unusual use of the word stable, but > then when he started using that usage of stable, he didnt need to > conform to FreeBSD usage of word stable as: > He was I think, a mostly Linux based developer of a cross platform > source that also runs on *BSD. Linux is one of many supported platforms and it causes more workload than others. Since February 1985 (when the first Sun arrived in Europe), I am working on SunOS. Before, I was working on UNOS - a UNIX clone. The main development is still on Solaris and frequent compilations are also done on HP-UX and Mac OS X. Less frequent compilations are done on Linux and FreeBSD, as well as on Haiku. I would be interested to again get access to AIX and IRIX (I know IRIX is dead but it has the best warnings in the C-compiler ;-). > Even in FreeBSD, Stable only later came to mean the common English > meaning of reliable, I remember several times people asserting all > Stable meant was that the API (libs etc) avoided sudden changes like > in current, didn't back then mean make world wouldnt break etc. The last interface change im mkisofs (disallow -H/-L/-P for future POSIX.1-2001 usage with these optiions) was implemented in December 2006. It was announced in October 2002. 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Everything is fine, except that the sound is not working, when I connect the computer to the LCD-TV via HDMI. From dmesg I got the following: hdac0: mem 0xff950000-0xff953fff irq 22 at device 27.0 on pci0 hdac0: HDA Driver Revision: 20090329_0131 hdac0: [ITHREAD] hdac0: HDA Codec #2: IDT 92HD73E1 hdac0: HDA Codec #3: Intel G45 HDMI pcm0: at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm1: at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm2: at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm3: at cad 3 nid 1 on hdac0 /dev/sndstat is saying: FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386) Installed devices: pcm0: at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex default) pcm1: at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (0p:0v/1r:1v channels) pcm2: at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/0r:0v channels) pcm3: at cad 3 nid 1 on hdac0 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/0r:0v channels) I set hw.snd.default_unit to 3, but there is no sound over HDMI. TIA, Harald From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 12:20:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B052106566C for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:20:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gizmo.2hip.net (gizmo.2hip.net [64.74.207.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2369D8FC08 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:20:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (adsl-146-138-56.bna.bellsouth.net [70.146.138.56]) (authenticated bits=0) by gizmo.2hip.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n63CKSvW024425 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 3 Jul 2009 08:20:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) From: Robert Noland To: Harald Neuffer In-Reply-To: <4A4DB913.4070501@burgberg.org> References: <4A4DB913.4070501@burgberg.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-6gmAwcOGqiJy1g1KCKd0" Organization: FreeBSD Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:20:23 -0500 Message-Id: <1246623623.1855.53.camel@balrog.2hip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE,RCVD_IN_PBL,RDNS_DYNAMIC,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on gizmo.2hip.net Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No sound via HDMI with Intel DG45FC X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:20:44 -0000 --=-6gmAwcOGqiJy1g1KCKd0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2009-07-03 at 09:53 +0200, Harald Neuffer wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I have an Intel motherboard DG45FC with a 7-STABLE from 2 days ago.=20 > Everything is fine, except that the sound is not working, when I connect=20 > the computer to the LCD-TV via HDMI. From dmesg I got the following: >=20 > hdac0: mem=20 > 0xff950000-0xff953fff irq 22 at device 27.0 on pci0 > hdac0: HDA Driver Revision: 20090329_0131 > hdac0: [ITHREAD] > hdac0: HDA Codec #2: IDT 92HD73E1 > hdac0: HDA Codec #3: Intel G45 HDMI > pcm0: at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 > pcm1: at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 > pcm2: at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 > pcm3: at cad 3 nid 1 on hdac0 >=20 > /dev/sndstat is saying: >=20 > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386) > Installed devices: > pcm0: at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 kld=20 > snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex default) > pcm1: at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 kld=20 > snd_hda [MPSAFE] (0p:0v/1r:1v channels) > pcm2: at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 kld=20 > snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/0r:0v channels) > pcm3: at cad 3 nid 1 on hdac0 kld=20 > snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/0r:0v channels) >=20 >=20 > I set hw.snd.default_unit to 3, but there is no sound over HDMI. Hrm, I wonder if the audio codec still needs to be setup. The radeonhd driver has an Audio option to get the codec setup properly, but I'm not sure about Intel. I don't have anything to output an HDMI stream to right now. I'll try to poke around and see if I see anything. robert. > TIA, >=20 > Harald > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-multimedia > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-multimedia-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" --=20 Robert Noland FreeBSD --=-6gmAwcOGqiJy1g1KCKd0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkpN94cACgkQM4TrQ4qfROMsYwCfS+Lgfwo2Jf5YW9nwThrcphXV uKwAmQF4gm6tDQq9hCWdjtr08PdOmVDR =YtaP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-6gmAwcOGqiJy1g1KCKd0-- From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 22:43:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E45A1065673; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 22:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonyrieser@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81B78FC12; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 22:43:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonyrieser@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d14so1402046and.13 for ; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:43:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rP28Vx2CdxNg1oN1KtEzGXWRhvaIIjMpw88a6xzVI0k=; b=hklhnfm9+gJdjFWMoiXtco8UPfPZ1kOuOPFHTXsuxRGvBEHkGpVnhmNjo35wvo0B05 zLGFupxGzOoTxCaD5ilccHFuLCiyczVmiKnsf9HgYEmFroxROc1Vt8q3yTtRIPw2zNqO BFrN1BjGWI/v+qEtdTaev03IJBNQPIoLmqUyA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=P6ZEELhOF7d/boJy/F5Ftop1rEAFfnJP08p6+/tJyyctbWlNDw8MNN2yiShawgXWx5 cxfgMFPtPPLyZvyjcuOG1FTcR1Jjj89HsY7al2PEiBf34PtIEK+/7bAAd8hMK0sCPtF8 w0z4uKhDQXyf9Pryt417M4X2biUw6EeKKyQpQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.178.9 with SMTP id a9mr5186063anf.11.1246745553908; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:12:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 22:12:33 +0000 Message-ID: <58a2fd890907041512h215b1de6r94e8f4afea28ede8@mail.gmail.com> From: Antonio Rieser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Webcam problem - pwc X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:43:58 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to get a Logitech QuickCam Notebook to work with FreeBSD 7.1 on an Acer Aspire 1680 laptop. I installed the pwcbsd port, but when I run pwcview -d /dev/ugen0 (where the camera is), I get the error: Failed to get current picture info: Invalid Argument. Does anyone have any ideas? The dmesg line relative to the camera is ugen0: on uhub1 Thanks in advance, and all the best, Tony