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The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o kern/160811 geom [geom] Cannot change gmirror provider priority in RELE o kern/160562 geom [geom][patch] Allow to insert new component to geom_ra o kern/160409 geom [geli] failed to attach provider o kern/159595 geom [geom] [panic] panic on gmirror unload in vbox [regres o kern/159091 geom [geom] GEOM fails to scan nested partitions to create p kern/158398 geom [headers] [patch] includes o kern/158197 geom [geom] geom_cache with size>1000 leads to panics o kern/157879 geom [libgeom] ABI change without version bump in 8.2 o kern/157863 geom [geli] kbdmux prevents geli passwords from being enter o kern/157739 geom [geom] GPT labels with geom_multipath o kern/157724 geom [geom] gpart(8) 'add' command must preserve gap for sc o kern/157723 geom [geom] GEOM should not process 'c' (raw) partitions fo o kern/157108 geom [gjournal] dumpon(8) fails on gjournal providers o kern/155994 geom [geom] Long "Suspend time" when reading large files fr o kern/154226 geom [geom] GEOM label does not change when you modify them o kern/150858 geom [geom] [geom_label] [patch] glabel(8) is not compatibl o kern/150626 geom [geom] [gjournal] gjournal(8) destroys label o kern/150555 geom [geom] gjournal unusable on GPT partitions o kern/150334 geom [geom] [udf] [patch] geom label does not support UDF o kern/149762 geom volume labels with rogue characters o bin/149215 geom [panic] [geom_part] gpart(8): Delete linux's slice via o kern/147667 geom [gmirror] Booting with one component of a gmirror, the o kern/145818 geom [geom] geom_stat_open showing cached information for n o kern/145042 geom [geom] System stops booting after printing message "GE o kern/144905 geom [geom][geom_part] panic in gpart_ctlreq when unpluggin o kern/143455 geom gstripe(8) in RELENG_8 (31st Jan 2010) broken o kern/142563 geom [geom] [hang] ioctl freeze in zpool o kern/141740 geom [geom] gjournal(8): g_journal_destroy concurrent error o kern/140352 geom [geom] gjournal + glabel not working o kern/135898 geom [geom] Severe filesystem corruption - large files or l o kern/134922 geom [gmirror] [panic] kernel panic when use fdisk on disk o kern/134113 geom [geli] Problem setting secondary GELI key o kern/133931 geom [geli] [request] intentionally wrong password to destr o bin/132845 geom [geom] [patch] ggated(8) does not close files opened a o bin/131415 geom [geli] keystrokes are unregulary sent to Geli when typ o kern/131353 geom [geom] gjournal(8) kernel lock o kern/129674 geom [geom] gjournal root did not mount on boot o kern/129645 geom gjournal(8): GEOM_JOURNAL causes system to fail to boo o kern/129245 geom [geom] gcache is more suitable for suffix based provid f kern/128276 geom [gmirror] machine lock up when gmirror module is used o kern/127420 geom [geom] [gjournal] [panic] Journal overflow on gmirrore o kern/124973 geom [gjournal] [patch] boot order affects geom_journal con o kern/124969 geom gvinum(8): gvinum raid5 plex does not detect missing s o kern/123962 geom [panic] [gjournal] gjournal (455Gb data, 8Gb journal), o kern/123122 geom [geom] GEOM / gjournal kernel lock o kern/122738 geom [geom] gmirror list "losts consumers" after gmirror de o kern/122067 geom [geom] [panic] Geom crashed during boot o kern/121364 geom [gmirror] Removing all providers create a "zombie" mir o kern/120091 geom [geom] [geli] [gjournal] geli does not prompt for pass o kern/115856 geom [geli] ZFS thought it was degraded when it should have o kern/115547 geom [geom] [patch] [request] let GEOM Eli get password fro o kern/114532 geom [geom] GEOM_MIRROR shows up in kldstat even if compile f kern/113957 geom [gmirror] gmirror is intermittently reporting a degrad o kern/113837 geom [geom] unable to access 1024 sector size storage o kern/113419 geom [geom] geom fox multipathing not failing back o kern/107707 geom [geom] [patch] [request] add new class geom_xbox360 to o kern/94632 geom [geom] Kernel output resets input while GELI asks for o kern/90582 geom [geom] [panic] Restore cause panic string (ffs_blkfree o bin/90093 geom fdisk(8) incapable of altering in-core geometry o kern/87544 geom [gbde] mmaping large files on a gbde filesystem deadlo o bin/86388 geom [geom] [geom_part] periodic(8) daily should backup gpa o kern/84556 geom [geom] [panic] GBDE-encrypted swap causes panic at shu o kern/79251 geom [2TB] newfs fails on 2.6TB gbde device o kern/79035 geom [vinum] gvinum unable to create a striped set of mirro o bin/78131 geom gbde(8) "destroy" not working. 65 problems total. From owner-freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 13:00:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 463FA106564A for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:00:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:60a2::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04BE98FC17 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lion.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:d578:b545:b004:4d]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3C5C94AC1C for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:00:00 +0400 (MSD) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:59:57 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <669058077.20110921165957@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: What is purpose of geom_mountver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org List-Id: GEOM-specific discussions and implementations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:00:05 -0000 Hello, Freebsd-geom. I cannot imagine situation when you need geom_mountver -- what is purpose of this class? I understand, HOW it works and WHAT it does. I don't understand "physical meaning" of such BIO queueing. What was goal of author, in which situation this could be useful (broken HDD cable is first thing come to my mind, and, may be geom_gate?)? --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov From owner-freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 16:06:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7461065670 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:06:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gcubfg-freebsd-geom@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25ED18FC18 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:06:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R6PK4-0005Nn-HL for freebsd-geom@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:06:56 +0200 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:06:56 +0200 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:06:56 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:06:44 +0200 Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <669058077.20110921165957@serebryakov.spb.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig0F326096DD2BF197A04069F7" X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/20110907 Thunderbird/6.0.1 In-Reply-To: <669058077.20110921165957@serebryakov.spb.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Subject: Re: What is purpose of geom_mountver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GEOM-specific discussions and implementations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:06:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig0F326096DD2BF197A04069F7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 21/09/2011 14:59, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Hello, Freebsd-geom. >=20 > I cannot imagine situation when you need geom_mountver -- what is > purpose of this class? > I understand, HOW it works and WHAT it does. I don't understand > "physical meaning" of such BIO queueing. Flaky Fibre channel or iSCSI connections, most probably. Possibly also geom_multipath. --------------enig0F326096DD2BF197A04069F7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk56C5QACgkQldnAQVacBcia9wCg5xmPwJvaTlQttRWmYnXS+HK8 Z5oAoPF6uMMUWVQ5SVLapOSlZZHFXGoO =v9om -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig0F326096DD2BF197A04069F7-- From owner-freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 18:45:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D130106566B; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:45:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:60a2::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0C28FC13; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:45:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lion.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:d578:b545:b004:4d]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 34A244AC2D; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:45:56 +0400 (MSD) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:45:52 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <7966041.20110921224552@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: Ivan Voras In-Reply-To: References: <669058077.20110921165957@serebryakov.spb.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is purpose of geom_mountver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org List-Id: GEOM-specific discussions and implementations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:45:58 -0000 Hello, Ivan. You wrote 21 =D1=81=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82=D1=8F=D0=B1=D1=80=D1=8F 2011 =D0=B3.,= 20:06:44: >> I cannot imagine situation when you need geom_mountver -- what is >> purpose of this class? >> I understand, HOW it works and WHAT it does. I don't understand >> "physical meaning" of such BIO queueing. > Flaky Fibre channel or iSCSI connections, most probably. Possibly also > geom_multipath. I'm puzzled by name "mount verification" and debug message "Mount verification in progress.". --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov From owner-freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 18:48:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864911065673 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:48:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:60a2::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FAC98FC12 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:48:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lion.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:d578:b545:b004:4d]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 911234AC1C for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:48:51 +0400 (MSD) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:48:48 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1108033999.20110921224848@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: geom_fox vs geom_multipath? X-BeenThere: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org List-Id: GEOM-specific discussions and implementations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:48:52 -0000 Hello, Freebsd-geom. We have both geom_fox without control utility and strange way of labelling and "conventional" geom_multipath. They seems to perform same task, but geom_multipath looks like "normal" module and geom_fox is very old one, before "rules" for modules was settled (metadata in first sector, no control utility, etc). Is it intentional? :) --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov From owner-freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 18:51:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5700B106566B for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:51:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:60a2::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204D48FC08 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:51:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lion.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:d578:b545:b004:4d]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 64A504AC1C for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:51:24 +0400 (MSD) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:51:21 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <91483808.20110921225121@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: geom_(4) vs g(8) X-BeenThere: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org List-Id: GEOM-specific discussions and implementations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:51:25 -0000 Hello, Freebsd-geom. Why some modules have geom_(4) man page and others have g(8)? Again, is it intentional or historical? Maybe, we need to link all geom_(4) to g(8) and vice versa? It is good to be able to "man " and don't "guess" that geom_.ko is documented in g(8). I could provide patches for this -- but maybe I don't understand something and all these differences are intentional? --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov From owner-freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 20:02:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A74D106564A for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:02:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7308FC12 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:02:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from porto.starpoint.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id WAA03203; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:45:27 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.starpoint.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1R6SjX-000Odc-BF; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:45:27 +0300 Message-ID: <4E7A3ED5.1050604@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:45:25 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110907 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lev@FreeBSD.org References: <91483808.20110921225121@serebryakov.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <91483808.20110921225121@serebryakov.spb.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: undefined Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: geom_(4) vs g(8) X-BeenThere: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GEOM-specific discussions and implementations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:02:33 -0000 on 21/09/2011 21:51 Lev Serebryakov said the following: > Hello, Freebsd-geom. > > Why some modules have geom_(4) man page and others have > g(8)? > > Again, is it intentional or historical? > > Maybe, we need to link all geom_(4) to g(8) and vice > versa? It is good to be able to "man " and don't "guess" > that geom_.ko is documented in g(8). > > I could provide patches for this -- but maybe I don't understand > something and all these differences are intentional? > Section 4 is kernel drivers. Section 8 is userland system management utilities. Man pages for driver and related utilities should be cross-referenced but they don't have to be the same one page. Or did you mean something else? -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 20:54:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AFA1065670; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:54:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:60a2::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B497A8FC1A; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lion.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:d578:b545:b004:4d]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0745E4AC2D; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 00:54:22 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 00:54:19 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1749253364.20110922005419@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: Andriy Gapon In-Reply-To: <4E7A3ED5.1050604@FreeBSD.org> References: <91483808.20110921225121@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4E7A3ED5.1050604@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: geom_(4) vs g(8) X-BeenThere: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org List-Id: GEOM-specific discussions and implementations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:54:25 -0000 Hello, Andriy. You wrote 21 =F1=E5=ED=F2=FF=E1=F0=FF 2011 =E3., 23:45:25: > Section 4 is kernel drivers. > Section 8 is userland system management utilities. > Man pages for driver and related utilities should be cross-referenced but= they > don't have to be the same one page. Yes, I understand that. > Or did you mean something else? I mean, that there is geom_fox(4) and, say, geom_map(4), but no geom_mirror(4), only gmirror(8). Why here is no gfox(8) is clear -- here is no such utility (what is strange enough, but it is topic of other thread). But why here is no geom_mirror(4) is not clear for me (Ok, one reason could be because nobody write such man page, but see below about it hypothetical content). And, as information in gmirror(8) will duplicate information in (hypothetical) geom_mirror(4) (as they both describe same object, really), it could be one page, found by two names. NB: geom_mirror is only example, here are A LOT of such modules with their configuration utilities. --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov From owner-freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 05:23:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D1D1065674; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 05:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602588FC19; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 05:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from porto.starpoint.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id IAA09799; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:23:46 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.starpoint.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1R6blC-0001KK-Ab; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:23:46 +0300 Message-ID: <4E7AC660.9020003@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:23:44 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110907 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lev@FreeBSD.org References: <91483808.20110921225121@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4E7A3ED5.1050604@FreeBSD.org> <1749253364.20110922005419@serebryakov.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <1749253364.20110922005419@serebryakov.spb.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: undefined Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: geom_(4) vs g(8) X-BeenThere: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GEOM-specific discussions and implementations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 05:23:49 -0000 on 21/09/2011 23:54 Lev Serebryakov said the following: > Hello, Andriy. > You wrote 21 сентября 2011 г., 23:45:25: > >> Section 4 is kernel drivers. >> Section 8 is userland system management utilities. >> Man pages for driver and related utilities should be cross-referenced but they >> don't have to be the same one page. > Yes, I understand that. >> Or did you mean something else? > I mean, that there is geom_fox(4) and, say, geom_map(4), but no > geom_mirror(4), only gmirror(8). > Why here is no gfox(8) is clear -- here is no such utility (what is > strange enough, but it is topic of other thread). But why here is no > geom_mirror(4) is not clear for me (Ok, one reason could be because > nobody write such man page, but see below about it hypothetical > content). > > And, as information in gmirror(8) will duplicate information in > (hypothetical) geom_mirror(4) (as they both describe same object, > really), it could be one page, found by two names. > > NB: geom_mirror is only example, here are A LOT of such modules with > their configuration utilities. This makes sense to me. Thank you for the explanation. -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 11:08:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D1F106564A; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pawel@dawidek.net) Received: from mail.dawidek.net (60.wheelsystems.com [83.12.187.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6788FC0C; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:08:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (58.wheelsystems.com [83.12.187.58]) by mail.dawidek.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BA9D1D7B; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:51:35 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:51:05 +0200 From: Pawel Jakub Dawidek To: Lev Serebryakov Message-ID: <20110922105105.GA1662@garage.freebsd.pl> References: <1108033999.20110921224848@serebryakov.spb.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1108033999.20110921224848@serebryakov.spb.ru> X-OS: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Subject: Re: geom_fox vs geom_multipath? X-BeenThere: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GEOM-specific discussions and implementations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:08:15 -0000 --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:48:48PM +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Hello, Freebsd-geom. >=20 > We have both geom_fox without control utility and strange way of > labelling and "conventional" geom_multipath. >=20 > They seems to perform same task, but geom_multipath looks like > "normal" module and geom_fox is very old one, before "rules" for > modules was settled (metadata in first sector, no control utility, > etc). >=20 > Is it intentional? :) The geom_fox class is more of an example GEOM class. --=20 Pawel Jakub Dawidek http://www.wheelsystems.com FreeBSD committer http://www.FreeBSD.org Am I Evil? Yes, I Am! http://yomoli.com --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk57ExgACgkQForvXbEpPzS1tQCfQvFUGVTX2u+aBjWsUpau6Xer Z/UAoNAZ7Y0LBoxdGZFbctwcFMBB4k33 =gt3Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0-- From owner-freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 14:34:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CFDA106564A; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:34:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from etnapierala@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f51.google.com (mail-ew0-f51.google.com [209.85.215.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0088FC15; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:33:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so2466566ewy.10 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 07:33:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:x-priority :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to:x-mailer; bh=QRgPyJjdHmtzx6Eg8aW2sxizJ/ND70SVT9h0QKOtE8g=; b=xr6W/D5gamDHhIuEwMA46iX3WuFartU7duR5lXDq0mMLrm73EhDR5wES2jSzd3haoe UIEn6h4wdVbQfmE8A0VdN/zJVZxM6NTVtGmNcSx4TdQq0zLXyFA0p3hdzIfqxM52ddPM qhvI/RklrXp6f4ZvJtfR8Gbpp6sPqm7woXeRU= Received: by 10.223.54.202 with SMTP id r10mr3208941fag.114.1316700399934; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 07:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from enapierala.whl (58.wheelsystems.com. [83.12.187.58]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k26sm7601771fab.12.2011.09.22.07.06.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 22 Sep 2011 07:06:38 -0700 (PDT) Sender: =?UTF-8?Q?Edward_Tomasz_Napiera=C5=82a?= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Edward_Tomasz_Napiera=B3a?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <7966041.20110921224552@serebryakov.spb.ru> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:06:35 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <596689A2-2C21-438F-B6BF-475D5A92B1EE@FreeBSD.org> References: <669058077.20110921165957@serebryakov.spb.ru> <7966041.20110921224552@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: lev@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) Cc: Ivan Voras , freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is purpose of geom_mountver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GEOM-specific discussions and implementations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:34:00 -0000 Wiadomo=C5=9B=C4=87 napisana przez Lev Serebryakov w dniu 21 wrz 2011, o = godz. 20:45: > Hello, Ivan. > You wrote 21 =D1=81=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82=D1=8F=D0=B1=D1=80=D1=8F 2011 = =D0=B3., 20:06:44: >=20 >>> I cannot imagine situation when you need geom_mountver -- what is >>> purpose of this class? >>> I understand, HOW it works and WHAT it does. I don't understand >>> "physical meaning" of such BIO queueing. >> Flaky Fibre channel or iSCSI connections, most probably. Possibly = also >> geom_multipath. > I'm puzzled by name "mount verification" and debug message "Mount > verification in progress.". It's a humorous reference to VMS. Don't ask. :-) -- If you cut off my head, what would I say? Me and my head, or me and my = body?