From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 22 01:23:50 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D6CE40045 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 01:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allianceconsulting001001@gmail.com) Received: from cat-white-4eb35278374174b5.znlc.jp (cat-white-4eb35278374174b5.znlc.jp [154.34.8.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8C2872427 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 01:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allianceconsulting001001@gmail.com) Received: from [103.207.36.242] (unknown [103.207.36.242]) by cat-white-4eb35278374174b5.znlc.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPA id F1E88A41C for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 09:42:37 +0900 (JST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: Mail message body Subject: [SPAM] Funding Information To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Swiss Consultant Ch Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 17:42:33 -0700 Reply-To: info@alliancefinancialconsultant.com X-Antivirus: Dr.Web (R) for Unix mail servers drweb plugin ver.6.0.2.8 X-Antivirus-Code: 0x100000 X-Drweb-SpamState: yes X-Drweb-SpamScore: 500 X-DrWeb-SpamReason: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedttddrvddvucetufdoteggodetrfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemuceonhhonhgvqeenuceurghilhhouhhtmecupfdsteenucgohfhorhgsihguuggvnhfgmhgrihhlucdlhedttddm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 01:23:50 -0000 Hello. 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Thank you and kindest regards Mr.Chahal karnail chahal Chief Financial Consultant Alliance Group Email : info@alliancefinancialconsultant.com From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 22 07:36:18 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F0CE4B7AA for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 07:36:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from anny.lostinspace.de (anny.lostinspace.de [195.30.95.33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E046B80CA3 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 07:36:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from server.idefix.lan (unknown [IPv6:2a01:5c0:1a:3b51:21b:21ff:fe7b:3468]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: idefix@fechner.net) by anny.lostinspace.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0B261E8F90E; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 09:36:08 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=fechner.net; s=default; t=1508657768; bh=baHr6mleulPKsAB89a9woncIsD88tc/89miL/p1Nh1Y=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=f3EIPLeQ4S7kqv/gsb9wWUQJsAMJFRMT4vV158psCltnalWRziAlNs8ZRjBEnu97k DseKzqG2niQfq6eDQHDVMD6svL4wr9MvXgAyjuVcpKfemFT5+GGbwdJjXISux6Mbhd y+ea9mpZotYjn+H4zMKt+6f08iyVv/+2iKBg4I2I= Received: from [192.168.0.151] (066-136-067-156.ip-addr.inexio.net [156.67.136.66]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 299DAF92DF0; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 09:36:06 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: pkg upgrade problem as freebsd-update To: DTD , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: From: Matthias Fechner Message-ID: <031c6f11-1dfa-be99-2fde-56cdc889c393@fechner.net> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 09:35:51 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 07:36:18 -0000 Am 21.10.2017 um 20:17 schrieb DTD: > I just upgraded a system to 10.4 with freebsd-update. in doing: > >    pkg upgrade -n' > >    Installed packages to be UPGRADED: >         vim-lite: 8.0.0102 -> 8.0.1159 >         libiconv: 1.14_9 -> 1.14_11 > >    Installed packages to be REINSTALLED: >         ezjail-3.4.2 (ABI changed: 'freebsd:9:x86:64' -> > 'freebsd:10:x86:64') > > file /bin/sh > /bin/sh: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD), > dynamically linked, interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1, for FreeBSD > 10.4, FreeBSD-style, stripped try: pkg-static upgrade Gruß Matthias -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- Rich Cook From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 22 12:43:25 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A17E51FDB for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:43:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: from msa1.earth.yoonka.com (yoonka.com [88.98.225.149]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "msa1.earth.yoonka.com", Issuer "msa1.earth.yoonka.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E1BB64E93 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:43:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: from crayon2.yoonka.com (crayon2.yoonka.com [10.70.7.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by msa1.earth.yoonka.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v9MChMOQ087705 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:43:22 GMT (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Grzegorz Junka Subject: ZFS and replaced motherboard Message-ID: <0743dee8-be50-9952-953f-f060a33edba9@gjunka.com> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:43:22 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB-large X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:43:25 -0000 I have replaced a motherboard with almost an identical (the new one only doesn't have a LSI SAS2 controller, which wasn't used anyway). So, I was surprised to see that ZFS automatically recognized the pool after I booted up the system on the new motherboard despite the fact that accidentally some SATA ports have been swapped (i.e. disks weren't connect to the same SATA ports as on the old motherboard). However, there is one thing that differs from the old system and that's how those disks are reported:         NAME                               STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM         tank1                              ONLINE 0     0     0           raidz2-0                         ONLINE 0     0     0             diskid/DISK-WD-WCC1U3689037p3  ONLINE 0     0     0             diskid/DISK-WD-WCC1U3680535p3  ONLINE 0     0     0             diskid/DISK-WD-WCC1U4178255p3  ONLINE 0     0   336             diskid/DISK-WD-WCC1U4176715p3  ONLINE 0     0     0             diskid/DISK-WD-WCC1U3531030p3  ONLINE 0     0     0             diskid/DISK-WD-WCC1U3565183p3  ONLINE 0     0     0 Ignore the checksum error, that's because one disk wasn't connected properly for a couple of minutes but then was reconciled. The issue is that these disks no longer show as ada1, ada2, ada3, ada4, ada5, ada6. Why? The same with the M.2 nvm-e disks:         NAME                            STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM         tank5                           ONLINE       0     0     0           mirror-0                      ONLINE       0     0     0             diskid/DISK-S1XXNYAH300115  ONLINE       0     0     0             diskid/DISK-S1XXNYAH300143  ONLINE       0     0     0 They should be showing as nvd0 and nvd1. How to correct this? Does this need to be corrected? GrzegorzJ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 22 14:14:43 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3178E534FD for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 14:14:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglist@diamondbox.dk) Received: from mailrelay2-3.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com (mailrelay2-3.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com [46.30.212.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BF5667103 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 14:14:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglist@diamondbox.dk) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=diamondbox.dk; s=20140924; h=from:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:references; bh=fSE6z6Hua59GXA6o+2d4rYEREmohEiB8G9qMc2NcGs0=; b=k/OLcoVWNEzLu+QloHTgP/bQk5U7WHWyiavsXqVhVIPAUzJsdOHmwYLaGybub1CcLBA9GbILGq7iM p58MbiG9hPP1LxBQu0agLZcMP7S9x0eTcz2sf2WgEGuxhiR5o0DaQCsLCPjh9bFDpuqLaAPJsiNcmu 0c8Vigd1q07KrrTk= X-HalOne-Cookie: 61076655f2a2c1b4afc20d7297f828b57ed3fd52 X-HalOne-ID: 2ecadb4a-b733-11e7-a87d-b82a72d03b9b Received: from diamond.diamondbox.dk (unknown [212.237.134.88]) by smtpfilter2.public.one.com (Halon) with ESMTPSA id 2ecadb4a-b733-11e7-a87d-b82a72d03b9b; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 14:13:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: stuck duel booting win-10 and FreeBSD 10.3 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Nikolaj Thygesen Organization: diamondbox.dk Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 16:13:34 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: da X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 14:14:44 -0000 On 10/20/2017 22:37, DTD wrote: > On Thu, 19 Oct 2017, DTD wrote: > >> I am trying to install FreeBSD 10.3 on a Lenovo Ideapad 700. I was >> following some instructions to set up duel-boot with rEFInd Boot >> Manager and EasyUEFI. For whatever reason this did not work. I have >> FreeBSD installed, but the EFI code was not put where it needs to be. >> I have tried to use the shell to mount the disk to copy the code >> where it needs to go. I can not figure out a mount command. >> >> Using windows 10 diskpart, gpart and sysctl I put constructed the >> following map of the disk: >> >>  Partition ###  Type       Size     Offset >>  -------------  ---------  -------  ------- >>  Partition 1    System      260 MB  1024 KB   ada0p1  C: Windows boot >>  Partition 2    Reserved     16 MB   261 MB   ada0p2 >>  Partition 3    Primary     446 GB   277 MB   ada0p3   Windows NTFS >>  Partition 8    Unknown    4096 MB   446 GB   ada0p8 freebsd-swap >>  Partition 9    Unknown     512 KB   450 GB   ada0p9 freebsd-boot >>  Partition 10   Unknown     438 GB   450 GB   ada0p10  FreeBSD >> freebsd-ufs >>  Partition 4    Primary      25 GB   889 GB   ada0p4 >>  Partition 5    Recovery   1000 MB   914 GB   ada0p5 >>  Partition 6    Recovery     14 GB   915 GB   ada0p6 >>  Partition 7    OEM        1000 MB   930 GB   ada0p7 > [cut] > >> The installer can mount and write the disk just file. I have >> installed this 3 different ways to try and coax the install into >> writing boot code somewhere. >> >> So ... what's the magic command to mount the BSD partition? I am also >> not sure if the EFI boot code just gets added to ada0p1. ada0p9 is a >> boot partition added by the current install. Is FBSD 11 more likely >> to work? > > I (think I)have narrowed this down to a more specific question. Will > it work if I use gpart to wite the boot code? I can do this because I > can take the code from a working system. That only leaves which boot > code and where? An example of a working command would seem to be: > >    gpart bootcode  -p /tmp/gptboot -i [1|9] ada0 > > where I copy gptboot from another 10.3 system. Who get it. I though 1 > or 9 not 10. > > > _____ > Douglas Denault > http://www.safeport.com > doug@safeport.com > Voice: 301-217-9220 >   Fax: 301-217-9277 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I successfully did the same a year or two ago. I did most of my fiddling in Win10 as per some youtube video. This *might* be the one; I'm not sure:     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGPvt3pQfaw Two of my main obstacles were disabling secure boot in BIOS and making sure to assign some UID to partitions for the boot manager.     N :o) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 22 17:08:35 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD344E2B075 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 17:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99A556DD07 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 17:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) by bucksport.safeport.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v9MH8IZi077704; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 13:08:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 13:08:18 -0400 (EDT) From: DTD To: Matthias Fechner cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pkg upgrade problem as freebsd-update In-Reply-To: <031c6f11-1dfa-be99-2fde-56cdc889c393@fechner.net> Message-ID: References: <031c6f11-1dfa-be99-2fde-56cdc889c393@fechner.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]); Sun, 22 Oct 2017 13:08:19 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 17:08:35 -0000 On Sun, 22 Oct 2017, Matthias Fechner wrote: > Am 21.10.2017 um 20:17 schrieb DTD: >> I just upgraded a system to 10.4 with freebsd-update. in doing: >> >>    pkg upgrade -n' >> >>    Installed packages to be UPGRADED: >>         vim-lite: 8.0.0102 -> 8.0.1159 >>         libiconv: 1.14_9 -> 1.14_11 >> >>    Installed packages to be REINSTALLED: >>         ezjail-3.4.2 (ABI changed: 'freebsd:9:x86:64' -> >> 'freebsd:10:x86:64') >> >> file /bin/sh >> /bin/sh: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD), >> dynamically linked, interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1, for FreeBSD >> 10.4, FreeBSD-style, stripped > try: > pkg-static upgrade > > Gru? > Matthias > Thanks _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 23 04:57:25 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D15E4053B for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 04:57:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail02.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail02.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.139]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9D02093 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 04:57:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from 220-253-32-111.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO leader.local) ([220.253.32.111]) by ipmail02.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 23 Oct 2017 15:22:11 +1030 Subject: Re: ZFS and replaced motherboard To: Grzegorz Junka , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0743dee8-be50-9952-953f-f060a33edba9@gjunka.com> From: Shane Ambler Message-ID: <68d134bb-7b69-39c5-edaf-4ed5129be2ad@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:22:10 +1030 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0743dee8-be50-9952-953f-f060a33edba9@gjunka.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-AU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 04:57:25 -0000 On 22/10/2017 23:13, Grzegorz Junka wrote: > I have replaced a motherboard with almost an identical (the new one only > doesn't have a LSI SAS2 controller, which wasn't used anyway). > > So, I was surprised to see that ZFS automatically recognized the pool > after I booted up the system on the new motherboard despite the fact > that accidentally some SATA ports have been swapped (i.e. disks weren't > connect to the same SATA ports as on the old motherboard). ZFS is recognised by info stored on the disk. The same pool should be able to be imported on different hardware and systems - like Illlumos or Solaris/sparc64 > However, there is one thing that differs from the old system and that's > how those disks are reported: > diskid/DISK-WD-WCC1U3689037p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 > Ignore the checksum error, that's because one disk wasn't connected > properly for a couple of minutes but then was reconciled. The issue is > that these disks no longer show as ada1, ada2, ada3, ada4, ada5, ada6. Why? > > The same with the M.2 nvm-e disks: > diskid/DISK-S1XXNYAH300115 ONLINE 0 0 0 > They should be showing as nvd0 and nvd1. How to correct this? Does this > need to be corrected? It doesn't have to be corrected, but it can be easier for us to read. Try adding kern.geom.label.disk_ident.enable=0 to /boot/loader.conf -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Storing Data Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 23 08:17:58 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F221FE44FF2 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 08:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from do-not-reply@yahoo.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B4367991 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 08:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from do-not-reply@yahoo.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id D8158E44FF1; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 08:17:57 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79EAE44FF0 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 08:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from do-not-reply@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic329-18.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com (sonic329-18.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com [74.6.133.144]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95F7C6798F for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 08:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from do-not-reply@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic329.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 08:17:56 +0000 From: "Reverend. 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Mulder" Subject: vt and tmux, overlapping responsibilities Message-ID: <32b2e36d-91d9-d3e5-b91d-80607bb57590@sjmulder.nl> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 14:22:10 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-GB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 12:22:09 -0000 Hi, vt (or st) is a virtual terminal with some features like scrollback and multiplexing on top of system primitives (I suppose a character/video display driver). tmux (or screen, etc) is a more advanced multiplexer but implemented on top of an existing terminal. Using tmux on vt then strikes me as an inelegant situation. We have a multiplexer and terminal emulator that goes unused because we're using another multiplexer and terminal emulator through it. It's rather like hooking up a media centre system to a 'smart TV'. One could either a) use a 'dumb' TV, or b) use a smarter TV that eliminates the need for the media centre system. In terms of virtual terminals, that means a) reducing vt's repsonsibilities to a minimum, or b) being able to run another multiplexer directly on the video/text driver, replacing vt. I don't mean to belittle the obvious complexities and realities such as that a terminal must be available very early on in the startup sequence, or having a multiplexer target a device rather than another terminal, etc. Just wanted to see if there's been any thinking on this front. Sijmen From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 23 18:54:22 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9A2E52652 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 18:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91ECA7FF24 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 18:54:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0603622F2 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 14:54:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ID7mJakwxSap for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 14:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C1302622C7 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 14:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 14:54:12 -0400 Message-ID: <809ce5c30945a6659ef1ab5ea592fb80.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 14:54:12 -0400 Subject: snapshots contain no data. From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-5.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 18:54:22 -0000 I implemented snapshots on my desktop unit. the zfs pool looks like this: zfs list NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT zroot 40.4G 851G 96K /zroot zroot/ROOT 13.1G 851G 96K none zroot/ROOT/default 13.1G 851G 9.14G / zroot/tmp 76.4M 851G 2.56M /tmp zroot/usr 26.9G 851G 96K /usr zroot/usr/home 26.3G 851G 22.4G /usr/home zroot/usr/ports 638M 851G 638M /usr/ports zroot/usr/src 96K 851G 96K /usr/src zroot/var 131M 851G 96K /var zroot/var/audit 96K 851G 96K /var/audit zroot/var/crash 96K 851G 96K /var/crash zroot/var/log 118M 851G 2.60M /var/log zroot/var/mail 1.29M 851G 120K /var/mail zroot/var/tmp 11.3M 851G 5.45M /var/tmp This is one of the snapshot commands I am issuing from cron: /usr/local/sbin/zfsnap snapshot -a 14d -s -S -r zroot But when I look in the snapshot directories I see no data. This is the result: ls -a /zroot/.zfs/snapshot/*14d /zroot/.zfs/snapshot/2017-10-10_11.10.00--14d: . .. /zroot/.zfs/snapshot/2017-10-10_12.10.00--14d: . .. . . . /zroot/.zfs/snapshot/2017-10-23_14.10.00--14d: . .. This is busy system and I have made many changes to the file system since starting this on October 10. Why are there no snapshot references to changed files or where do I find them? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. 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I tried to configure this box as a FW but I can't get ping works from inside LAN to outside world, neither any tcp/upd connection. Basic configs: router ip: 190.92.124.89 kernel (recompiled & installed OK): a lot of innecesary things disabled before recompilation --- options IPFILTER options IPFILTER_LOG options IPFILTER_LOOKUP options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK /etc/rc.conf --- #WAN ifconfig_re0="inet 190.92.124.90 netmask 255.255.255.248" # LAN ifconfig_em0="inet 10.170.0.1 netmask 25.255.255.128" defaultrouter="190.92.124.89" gateway_eanble="YES" /etc/ipfilter.rules --- pass out quick lo0 all pass in quick lo0 all pass out quick em0 all pass in quick em0 all pass out quick re0 all pass in quick re0 all Routing tables --- Destin GW Flags Netif default 190.92.124.89 UGS re0 10.170.0.0/25 link#1 U em0 10.170.0.21 link#1 UHS lo0 127.0.0.1 link#3 UH lo0 190.92.124.88/29 link#2 U re0 190.92.124.91 link#2 UHS lo0 >From inside box I can ping outside world and inside LAN, but from a internal PC (IP:10.170.0.11) I cannot reach outside world. I need help, someone who tell where to look to fix it because I don't realize why happens this. thanks in advance -- ---------------- Efren Bravo From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 23 19:19:27 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C126E52CF2 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 19:19:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ultima1252@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-x22e.google.com (mail-yw0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D973580C2E for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 19:19:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ultima1252@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yw0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id w5so13031097ywg.11 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 12:19:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=EYm5xOjZnI7GB1LkMWOEFBPfUaJpywSJXYV7vvIoaDo=; b=JYKuxnhSRpGIjx/bbJUmesOXyzDX4KInuPO9k6BxYT9vSZk4EGmPandTYANPPc5xCv tD9sdqnFdiBYIkyosabE85JhEBQHq89fIFAYuNa2gBEk8wo4eq3/7w2oL3UN2G6OieKf JoUHT/URtWhLMUdps8DvV6CBeI+OcxTGDVGOJaB2AcHAfl376VGB4IaLcNaIGfE+yZCv hM4ZlgGSIXgK60WdekKYOo198dDrF8mOapp2s1lpB1n6D+FmHgpEyC3ij4rERj6LSYDO NCNGEIZnHRigX9D5t/KSH2ujQi6mu8pY1q5HBDF0TbQN/RPe13LyA7k+YmZMOYkYmYZO ycbw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=EYm5xOjZnI7GB1LkMWOEFBPfUaJpywSJXYV7vvIoaDo=; b=fPC89XtGdaQNsBRMiDbVXKA5UR2leFzVyYCrIiNYYs2giZS1wqM3JTC7QGZqlN6xpO QtQNEO5LjN3DmOS4L1gHBWbArrWfmeGEqDvInBKntfnDUm1rB80aPeygymvYxUB2v6W2 uPYRrMnF2Ab8rUTH3RKGCpVmhlkBUel1+eZrwHgyhgX8si+TIeargtVS/MmJhIY5giwm PSad3VlvMJQOWltS27U1GpGSBd65+NhXIqQTu0tDGoDBQZyx+Go7qERRHUctpDMk98Ly YrWylrhF3C5LbITh6Q4Xr8Rw7DBoAZVXdWLGLKLRm+Qn8wifgr0yF1iTjWeItrsdY9XE NE9w== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaU6lrTx6fu06ekV847VbtYxTa7VGBUUM8v89L+ebU6lPNptfDY8 AJGzXKi3NSxbkY0TUf/wuEK+Hh6Iqo/tzNfCEOuuDvh4 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+Q54rCyGAWrJkaDoZ4jpoE/Ekf6t/f6FR/OCif4ddvg9kVrkSacCDpywgYIbcu3N6MeqGfioxLIzYaPktCcA/w= X-Received: by 10.37.6.85 with SMTP id 82mr8904989ybg.308.1508786365855; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 12:19:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.13.219.143 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 12:19:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <809ce5c30945a6659ef1ab5ea592fb80.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> References: <809ce5c30945a6659ef1ab5ea592fb80.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> From: Ultima Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 12:19:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: snapshots contain no data. To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 19:19:27 -0000 Hello James, I'm not really sure what your expecting to see with ls, but I'll give you some tips and hopefully it will help. If your interested in seeing all the snapshots, running "zfs list -t snapshot" will give you the list of all the snapshots, this can be piped into grep to narrow the list down. These snapshots can be mounted like so: "mount -t zfs zroot@SNAPSHOT /mnt" replace SNAPSHOT with a actual snapshot, in this case something like 2017-10-10_12.10.00--14d should work. Hope this helps, Richard Gallamore On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 11:54 AM, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions < freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> wrote: > I implemented snapshots on my desktop unit. the zfs pool looks like > this: > > zfs list > NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT > zroot 40.4G 851G 96K /zroot > zroot/ROOT 13.1G 851G 96K none > zroot/ROOT/default 13.1G 851G 9.14G / > zroot/tmp 76.4M 851G 2.56M /tmp > zroot/usr 26.9G 851G 96K /usr > zroot/usr/home 26.3G 851G 22.4G /usr/home > zroot/usr/ports 638M 851G 638M /usr/ports > zroot/usr/src 96K 851G 96K /usr/src > zroot/var 131M 851G 96K /var > zroot/var/audit 96K 851G 96K /var/audit > zroot/var/crash 96K 851G 96K /var/crash > zroot/var/log 118M 851G 2.60M /var/log > zroot/var/mail 1.29M 851G 120K /var/mail > zroot/var/tmp 11.3M 851G 5.45M /var/tmp > > This is one of the snapshot commands I am issuing from cron: > > /usr/local/sbin/zfsnap snapshot -a 14d -s -S -r zroot > > > > But when I look in the snapshot directories I see no data. > > This is the result: > > ls -a /zroot/.zfs/snapshot/*14d > /zroot/.zfs/snapshot/2017-10-10_11.10.00--14d: > . .. > > /zroot/.zfs/snapshot/2017-10-10_12.10.00--14d: > . .. > . . . > > /zroot/.zfs/snapshot/2017-10-23_14.10.00--14d: > . .. > > > This is busy system and I have made many changes to the file system > since starting this on October 10. Why are there no snapshot > references to changed files or where do I find them? > > > -- > *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** > Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail > Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail > > James B. 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From: "James B. Byrne" To: "Ultima" Cc: "FreeBSD Mailing List" Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-5.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 19:30:14 -0000 On Mon, October 23, 2017 15:19, Ultima wrote: > Hello James, > > I'm not really sure what your expecting to see with ls, but I'll give > you some tips and hopefully it will help. The examples I could find respecting searching for a file in a snapshot never seemed to manage to note that one first must mount a snapshot before doing anything with it; and I somehow overlooked that significant detail in my other readings. > > These snapshots can be mounted like so: > "mount -t zfs zroot@SNAPSHOT /mnt" replace SNAPSHOT with a actual > snapshot, in this case something like 2017-10-10_12.10.00--14d should > work. > mount -t zfs zroot@2017-10-10_11.10.00--14d /mnt/snapshot mount: zroot@2017-10-10_11.10.00--14d: Device busy What does this mean, besides the patently obvious, and how it is resolved? What I am trying to do is retrieve one file from the initial snapshot. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. 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To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 19:49:49 -0000 Probably means the snapshot is already mounted, have not seen this error in any other case when mounting zfs snapshots. I'm not too familiar with using snapdir=visible property though. On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 12:30 PM, James B. Byrne wrote: > > On Mon, October 23, 2017 15:19, Ultima wrote: > > Hello James, > > > > I'm not really sure what your expecting to see with ls, but I'll give > > you some tips and hopefully it will help. > > The examples I could find respecting searching for a file in a > snapshot never seemed to manage to note that one first must mount a > snapshot before doing anything with it; and I somehow overlooked that > significant detail in my other readings. > > > > > These snapshots can be mounted like so: > > "mount -t zfs zroot@SNAPSHOT /mnt" replace SNAPSHOT with a actual > > snapshot, in this case something like 2017-10-10_12.10.00--14d should > > work. > > > > mount -t zfs zroot@2017-10-10_11.10.00--14d /mnt/snapshot > mount: zroot@2017-10-10_11.10.00--14d: Device busy > > What does this mean, besides the patently obvious, and how it is > resolved? What I am trying to do is retrieve one file from the > initial snapshot. > > > -- > *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** > Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail > Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail > > James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca > Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca > 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 > Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 > Canada L8E 3C3 > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 23 20:07:53 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C20E53E20 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 20:07:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77D4682524 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 20:07:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA4A622F2; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:07:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LSggWopNdvcy; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:07:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CC509622C7; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:07:50 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <809ce5c30945a6659ef1ab5ea592fb80.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <802b703b400e1abc4f9fb2845acb23e0.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:07:50 -0400 Subject: Re: snapshots contain no data. From: "James B. Byrne" To: "Ultima" Cc: "FreeBSD Mailing List" Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-5.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 20:07:53 -0000 On Mon, October 23, 2017 15:49, Ultima wrote: > Probably means the snapshot is already mounted, have not seen > this error in any other case when mounting zfs snapshots. I'm not > too familiar with using snapdir=visible property though. > I do not see such a mount anywhere: # mount zroot/ROOT/default on / (zfs, local, noatime, nfsv4acls) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) fdescfs on /dev/fd (fdescfs) procfs on /proc (procfs, local) zroot/tmp on /tmp (zfs, local, noatime, nosuid, nfsv4acls) zroot/usr/home on /usr/home (zfs, local, noatime, nfsv4acls) zroot/usr/ports on /usr/ports (zfs, local, noatime, nosuid, nfsv4acls) zroot/usr/src on /usr/src (zfs, local, noatime, nfsv4acls) zroot/var/audit on /var/audit (zfs, local, noatime, noexec, nosuid, nfsv4acls) zroot/var/crash on /var/crash (zfs, local, noatime, noexec, nosuid, nfsv4acls) zroot/var/log on /var/log (zfs, local, noatime, noexec, nosuid, nfsv4acls) zroot/var/mail on /var/mail (zfs, local, nfsv4acls) zroot/var/tmp on /var/tmp (zfs, local, noatime, nosuid, nfsv4acls) zroot on /zroot (zfs, local, noatime, nfsv4acls) -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 23 20:30:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD50E5457E for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 20:30:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 811FC83364 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 20:30:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v9NKURsW070654 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:30:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v9NKUQBe070651 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:30:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:30:26 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Routing problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (BSF 202 2017-01-01) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.fig.ol.no X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 20:30:39 -0000 On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:19-0400, Efren Bravo wrote: > Hi there, > > I installed a FreeBSD 10.1 box and upgraded to 10.4. I tried to configure > this box as a FW but I can't get ping works from inside LAN to outside > world, neither any tcp/upd connection. Basic configs: > > router ip: 190.92.124.89 > > kernel (recompiled & installed OK): > a lot of innecesary things disabled before recompilation > --- > options IPFILTER > options IPFILTER_LOG > options IPFILTER_LOOKUP > options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK > > /etc/rc.conf > --- > #WAN > ifconfig_re0="inet 190.92.124.90 netmask 255.255.255.248" Public IPv4 address space. > # LAN > ifconfig_em0="inet 10.170.0.1 netmask 25.255.255.128" Private IPv4 address space. Do you plan on setting up NAT44 on this box? You should if you want this setup to work as expected. > defaultrouter="190.92.124.89" > gateway_eanble="YES" > > /etc/ipfilter.rules > --- > pass out quick lo0 all > pass in quick lo0 all > > pass out quick em0 all > pass in quick em0 all > > pass out quick re0 all > pass in quick re0 all > > Routing tables > --- > Destin GW Flags Netif > default 190.92.124.89 UGS re0 > 10.170.0.0/25 link#1 U em0 > 10.170.0.21 link#1 UHS lo0 > 127.0.0.1 link#3 UH lo0 > 190.92.124.88/29 link#2 U re0 > 190.92.124.91 link#2 UHS lo0 > > >From inside box I can ping outside world and inside LAN, but from a > internal PC (IP:10.170.0.11) I cannot reach outside world. > > I need help, someone who tell where to look to fix it because I don't > realize why happens this. > thanks in advance -- Trond. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 23 21:22:40 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F3D2E55715 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 21:22:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from outmx-028.london.gridhost.co.uk (outmx-028.london.gridhost.co.uk [95.142.156.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03E257FB for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 21:22:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk (unknown [82.71.56.121]) (Authenticated sender: mailpool@milibyte.co.uk) by outmx-028.london.gridhost.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 85C93265D3D62; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:05:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.1.13] (helo=curlew) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1e6k1j-0002N8-1Z; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:12:51 +0100 Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:12:50 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: "James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions" Cc: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Message-ID: <20171023221250.3cc8dbcb@curlew> In-Reply-To: <809ce5c30945a6659ef1ab5ea592fb80.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> References: <809ce5c30945a6659ef1ab5ea592fb80.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Subject: Re: snapshots contain no data. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 21:22:40 -0000 On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 14:54:12 -0400 "James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions" wrote: > I implemented snapshots on my desktop unit. the zfs pool looks like > this: > > zfs list > NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT > zroot 40.4G 851G 96K /zroot > zroot/ROOT 13.1G 851G 96K none > zroot/ROOT/default 13.1G 851G 9.14G / > zroot/tmp 76.4M 851G 2.56M /tmp > zroot/usr 26.9G 851G 96K /usr > zroot/usr/home 26.3G 851G 22.4G /usr/home > zroot/usr/ports 638M 851G 638M /usr/ports > zroot/usr/src 96K 851G 96K /usr/src > zroot/var 131M 851G 96K /var > zroot/var/audit 96K 851G 96K /var/audit > zroot/var/crash 96K 851G 96K /var/crash > zroot/var/log 118M 851G 2.60M /var/log > zroot/var/mail 1.29M 851G 120K /var/mail > zroot/var/tmp 11.3M 851G 5.45M /var/tmp > > This is one of the snapshot commands I am issuing from cron: > > /usr/local/sbin/zfsnap snapshot -a 14d -s -S -r zroot > > > > But when I look in the snapshot directories I see no data. > > This is the result: > > ls -a /zroot/.zfs/snapshot/*14d > /zroot/.zfs/snapshot/2017-10-10_11.10.00--14d: > . .. > You need to refer to the mountpoint of each individual filesystem, try: ls /.zfs/snapshot/*14d ls /usr/.zfs/snapshot/*14d ls /usr/home/.zfs/snapshot/*14d -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 23 22:37:21 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027BAE56D05 for ; 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Tue, 24 Oct 2017 02:54:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta01.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 657766C04A for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 02:54:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.0.11] ([76.183.153.52]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id 6pJheLbj0fblG6pJkeiGIo; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 02:51:48 +0000 Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 21:51:44 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Strange periodic problem Message-ID: <99E0408A95C01319659D7EFF@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfHL9TmWwKIOjgz3jGSfl49PTdAfUBCU7ilNYpzNGep75PBWrKjZys5WBZCOxlHAc0y2v2GVKxnD5zExs41LtD7BR4LDnX29dhSlpbrhiUSPrrQTIWulN JrwdrdKnjKy3AB/7OcRfY72THMkSXrQlgAgxwoeTpAng2AxYENhnLvYclAJifLIefnx5pnfd3w8v/w== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 02:54:30 -0000 I wrote a script to do database backups. It worked well, so I copied it to another server. I had to alter it, because the db was too big to send through email, so it creates the backup, removes the previous days and then sends email to me notifying me that it ran. Except, it doesn't work. And I have no idea why. The periodic script is executable. # ls -lsa /etc/periodic/daily/220.dbbackup 2 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 37 Oct 19 12:31 /etc/periodic/daily/220.dbbackup The script calls sh to run the actual script. # cat /etc/periodic/daily/220.dbbackup #!/bin/sh /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh Periodic.conf enables the script. # grep dbbackup /etc/periodic.conf daily_dbbackup_enable="YES" The script itself is executable. # ls -lsa /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh 2 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 446 Oct 11 23:40 /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh The script runs manually, and I get the email. # /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh rm: /usr/home/pauls/102217.alldb.sql: No such file or directory (The previous backup doesn't exist, because the script isn't running daily.) What have I missed? Paul Schmehl, Retired From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 24 02:59:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08718E39A23 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 02:59:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CEF626C1DD for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 02:59:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) by bucksport.safeport.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v9O2x8dx045258 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:59:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:59:08 -0400 (EDT) From: DTD To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: zpool question Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]); Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:59:08 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 02:59:16 -0000 I have a test system disk is as follows Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ada0s1a 2.9G 655M 2.0G 24% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/ada0s1d 9.7G 2.3G 6.6G 26% /var /dev/ada0s1e 19G 4.5G 13G 25% /usr /dev/ada0s1f 415G 27G 354G 7% /home I would like to add zfs and define a pool to be /dev/ada0s1f. Possible? It seems if I allow root ssh (no console/monitor/keyboard), edit fstab to remove /dev/ada0s1f and reboot the following might work: zpool create zdata /dev/ada0s1f and that would hopefully leave the data there. Or does partition need to be empty? The goal here is just to make something with a minimum of change I can use to test and learn on. _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 24 04:02:55 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA8AE3B9CA for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 04:02:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x22a.google.com (mail-it0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A31476E24C for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 04:02:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id l196so8453160itl.4 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 21:02:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=zVXLF7KxDVIhBJea/rMxmCNWPXMFuu1t6CHppzJZaRU=; b=MQvZROW02bOGvwri0Z4Rlk+TtqP2rwXrFtf4DYtBSmxTODwCDu3Yo4o3cLQ+wzvf68 kSrDlT4II7k/D2VMSAnOa6qRHEVq7HVNGQoslBMbFUZ1a0nSnNoEi7u//RxKYjDjLU4o RWKrGu5dRlAtHQNzcfGEW5ePobL2rLNN2aZyCoFV2rAeKxgCz5Qw1LwxXD9b0QtoTKb4 s4ivSYAUj0azNSaYxda1P0xYBVsRfWY7zxiwMgJXgT/wA3BJEcXWH5SWTU2sMhGN0eYe EWmiOokoXvsl5pNuZq6lCa1OT5LVy57ihOAt6Rw7P8c77fuV1XIWHbjPV7XVEZB5/mPt 3ByA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=zVXLF7KxDVIhBJea/rMxmCNWPXMFuu1t6CHppzJZaRU=; b=C7WlP8HMHS7V/5XuvwhmPNxziZw8mFNsuj0PyXIbBLSiBhqYBYzgmi45LHSRVqQyj9 TqptcO4xapHdAXBIqfDI/2OC4VRyRlGO4tPXruX2PX3wLQyLLEhspRiv0hwCh5xbahoh 1cxtfqGHUBo4SF1pkLjLO231ud/iDQhR/MpvMxlAoZYMsv7DsgfTIhcQM4CACvAYr/XB 6QGKUy3LycuxVwwqwlmkyzy/+QUJ5QSrx7hCD70VSdHEZ27WFf7WMNCVT+C+3CfYhIgU AzJjS65RRe0vflAzVSYMDz/QI7eB2xdAkI5zBv2c3kqloAe/61tGTgTgQH6+WAdfyAQH 7Hdg== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaW7v6HeJSHgaXXsUXrUMOKGePKu/O8nZSxHmos9/GLxOj7ypLBv DPfNMXaZMb2LLUA69Z50P3lANLRnXEqBC6y37Ys= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+TeySImHo+S4A78QRUlNzFTRWxvp/O67yl0uq4nFFDsfjJFENWu4DsBPOgn5O8pLsTYqhi6VT4lU8K2SjvuON4= X-Received: by 10.36.51.212 with SMTP id k203mr12622690itk.74.1508817775059; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 21:02:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.2.176.201 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 21:02:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <99E0408A95C01319659D7EFF@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> References: <99E0408A95C01319659D7EFF@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> From: Adam Vande More Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 23:02:54 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Strange periodic problem To: Paul Schmehl Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 04:02:56 -0000 On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: > I wrote a script to do database backups. It worked well, so I copied it to > another server. I had to alter it, because the db was too big to send > through email, so it creates the backup, removes the previous days and then > sends email to me notifying me that it ran. Except, it doesn't work. > > And I have no idea why. > > The periodic script is executable. > # ls -lsa /etc/periodic/daily/220.dbbackup > 2 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 37 Oct 19 12:31 /etc/periodic/daily/220.dbback > up > > The script calls sh to run the actual script. > # cat /etc/periodic/daily/220.dbbackup > #!/bin/sh > /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh > > Periodic.conf enables the script. > # grep dbbackup /etc/periodic.conf > daily_dbbackup_enable="YES" > > The script itself is executable. > # ls -lsa /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh > 2 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 446 Oct 11 23:40 /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh > > The script runs manually, and I get the email. > # /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh > rm: /usr/home/pauls/102217.alldb.sql: No such file or directory > > (The previous backup doesn't exist, because the script isn't running > daily.) > > What have I missed? > Does the cron log indicate entry ran? -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 24 04:03:33 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B592CE3BAB6 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 04:03:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathiaki2@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic309-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic309-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.184.148]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85CE86E323 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 04:03:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathiaki2@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: vWzPcoUVM1m0PaW4f8lQoOtN07BBZAu14zBvi6mzDGsqDc18Dar6LMitS4SeiPS RkMj3mJtngE3x6IrHdA34CsXBnp2NpSVuWUZjEF7gXEc.2lvFUSH6GWnlTKYR8fw26tqdEm4d9Pl 5t1pmUWodq2_QPaCAhpBXC6dHtZZNDou9qMH0UXBC5ktzLMs0KeutMmwaL2HX.RBlsEElGmzjdtJ dXCpuepsRFvwjy1n3wAcAvAdfjxJNdlKJCgiU_orPstdSv_rT3_j1ugbwkWD.wfSM51ANJZcZegO dPYTcfnR887Dd8yIRPqAu6OT0.n0MlvAEvfUhH4UfG9RiFL0gRa0F4ho1IQMtwv0GND81DvmCrij 50PNtADb0DdzA9jQT5AlVKNPsmJs7jn6PCreEaxA6Z9w9q3UT_PUOll9xQFM3wcR65PUtpHcdTmS rImS5M_KDHHwGodhvaPK5LOdwx61w2n94_O0PuxAWO.lMFE17UJ7cCDgDX.to858eV9AU9fipadK LXTAEb6MvS8TnNeAgeoksmEL1dJuMOlo3jU7lxhM- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic309.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 04:03:32 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp207.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2017 03:43:16 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 217106.4318.bm@smtp207.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: vWzPcoUVM1m0PaW4f8lQoOtN07BBZAu14zBvi6mzDGsqDc1 8Dar6LMitS4SeiPSRkMj3mJtngE3x6IrHdA34CsXBnp2NpSVuWUZjEF7gXEc .2lvFUSH6GWnlTKYR8fw26tqdEm4d9Pl5t1pmUWodq2_QPaCAhpBXC6dHtZZ NDou9qMH0UXBC5ktzLMs0KeutMmwaL2HX.RBlsEElGmzjdtJdXCpuepsRFvw jy1n3wAcAvAdfjxJNdlKJCgiU_orPstdSv_rT3_j1ugbwkWD.wfSM51ANJZc ZegOdPYTcfnR887Dd8yIRPqAu6OT0.n0MlvAEvfUhH4UfG9RiFL0gRa0F4ho 1IQMtwv0GND81DvmCrij50PNtADb0DdzA9jQT5AlVKNPsmJs7jn6PCreEaxA 6Z9w9q3UT_PUOll9xQFM3wcR65PUtpHcdTmSrImS5M_KDHHwGodhvaPK5LOd wx61w2n94_O0PuxAWO.lMFE17UJ7cCDgDX.to858eV9AU9fipadKLXTAEb6M vS8TnNeAgeoksmEL1dJuMOlo3jU7lxhM- X-Yahoo-SMTP: h3Xqg6.swBC0yI913RMMwp94grO_cg-- Subject: Re: zpool question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Paul Pathiakis Message-ID: <795bb6c7-9fac-1c92-17d9-4db228787b10@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 23:43:15 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 04:03:33 -0000 There is a ton of how to do this on FreeBSD. Read the man pages on zpool and zfs... read the Wikis... read the HowTos..... Never assume that the data will be there....  BACK IT UP! :-) You may try: cd /home tar cpf . - | xz > /usr/home.tar.xz see if it fits... if you have a 32 GB USB... real easy... put it on the USB key... After it's backed up, you'll need to modify the /etc/fstab to comment that partition out. Create a zpool with: zpool create name (might use home)  /dev/ada0s1f It will create an internal mount point and it will automatically mount it. If you were to use 'home' as the pool name, it will attempt to mount it on /home . You're changing the format of the storage from UFS to ZFS.... not the same... Anyhow, zfs is enabled on zpool once you start.  Restore the data to the new partition. You should be fine. P. PS - I may have missed something and someone will point it out. Please, please, please read all of the above.  ZFS is amazing.... I want to have its baby. On 10/23/2017 10:59 PM, DTD wrote: > I have a test system disk is as follows > > Filesystem      Size    Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on > /dev/ada0s1a    2.9G    655M    2.0G    24%    / > devfs           1.0K    1.0K      0B   100%    /dev > /dev/ada0s1d    9.7G    2.3G    6.6G    26%    /var > /dev/ada0s1e     19G    4.5G     13G    25%    /usr > /dev/ada0s1f    415G     27G    354G     7%    /home > > I would like to add zfs and define a pool to be /dev/ada0s1f. > Possible? It seems if I allow root ssh (no console/monitor/keyboard), > edit fstab to remove /dev/ada0s1f and reboot the following might work: > >   zpool create zdata /dev/ada0s1f > > and that would hopefully leave the data there. Or does partition need > to be empty? The goal here is just to make something with a minimum of > change I can use to test and learn on. > > _____ > Douglas Denault > http://www.safeport.com > doug@safeport.com > Voice: 301-217-9220 >   Fax: 301-217-9277 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 24 04:22:11 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3A8E3CB61 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 04:22:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zgreenfelder@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qt0-x229.google.com (mail-qt0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03E506EC68 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 04:22:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zgreenfelder@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qt0-x229.google.com with SMTP id z28so28864767qtz.13 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 21:22:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=ZwSLhGQWruFm1k8ZRg1TcWK1/xGnfXqM3rJE/HnsYxI=; b=T4mUqlKTKI4rjEV85DCtvDH19t24if8rnTxaWnJcET8kfUOkNRMrgB3kR1ziJ6DhLd nlFOAJTP5brXOJcXMLQAI4jlZdT1LfsVj+XILCjczOWBB+8MzIhTjLl9xGmjvHyqkBC5 AW+wnhTYDtbHfxIsazKF2VkwJ4MJUsKsWRBNvvwd6ma44t9+ntRMXd1ahK0VmHh7faVA L2DKfnIv3uFV6GwXFJgrIxtFRFl49WaWJOs/tYa+fsc1XTTr7FLkK/QnJXCW35Jy5vBz iVF6ltM+m17L0vcxD17yD0jvMIYy6Z/7GwYlqcC2tHAYOgBS6OgKfl6LwLOoypmmiW6e 2kfg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=ZwSLhGQWruFm1k8ZRg1TcWK1/xGnfXqM3rJE/HnsYxI=; b=Ln22I1bdFFBPi44PJcnFnII7CsayhTF5f2HCOE2bxKZI+0aPn5ZXsivSG/VUjbWpI4 Scj5LKVPCounBC3jQrN98k0g/ZdGLy2HiospbvVn1j+2srt0AxklBJun3ZlrXdLhrkne DVYIZHFWVTntEVWC2DE52WdYY8nZiOWy7r6oObzkhjIwEmS5GGps4KfsH6cDw5fnRrgg qAfyn5ulucK0IEnt/DbPOi4+vaCGoblIgT4e9UV1TKR94lmCQLfWAG5WPGMAXB04RpGD Lz4rQjvZyj52OJmpuOC7eOULnrhWcuVAQRmLvH1EVkLam8sbSMiDln4QnK0NZMdzaaWE oVJw== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaX/1xA7+7f5Y1AtudQ4A78tPHLOTa+fIhA7ANP+m5Sh8r9TbJ2W 7ycV3LhMIDkIWSS6Zbf7yCKko8xl X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+RcLXALc4wcYNi0JPWrBKzmjpFzwtXuyCecn1rwKSjiYo4r3PluGg+8jetaqgKiL5+PAcJ0jA== X-Received: by 10.200.15.136 with SMTP id b8mr23838094qtk.64.1508818929503; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 21:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.10.31] (pool-71-178-8-115.washdc.fios.verizon.net. [71.178.8.115]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u48sm5891947qtk.77.2017.10.23.21.22.08 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 23 Oct 2017 21:22:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Strange periodic problem To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <99E0408A95C01319659D7EFF@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> From: zep Message-ID: <37900d35-8059-d0af-f392-a44042c5f4f9@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 00:22:06 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <99E0408A95C01319659D7EFF@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 04:22:11 -0000 On 10/23/2017 10:51 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: > I wrote a script to do database backups. It worked well, so I copied > it to another server. I had to alter it, because the db was too big to > send through email, so it creates the backup, removes the previous > days and then sends email to me notifying me that it ran. Except, it > doesn't work. > > And I have no idea why. what does your /etc/crontab file look like?  how does it compare between the two machines? > > The periodic script is executable. > # ls -lsa /etc/periodic/daily/220.dbbackup > 2 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  37 Oct 19 12:31 > /etc/periodic/daily/220.dbbackup > > The script calls sh to run the actual script. > # cat /etc/periodic/daily/220.dbbackup > #!/bin/sh > /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh >   do you get anything more useful if you change the line to sh -x to call the .sh file?  is it possible there are some weird control characters in any of those files?  e.g. do they still look the same if you cat -v them? > Periodic.conf enables the script. > # grep dbbackup /etc/periodic.conf > daily_dbbackup_enable="YES" > > The script itself is executable. > # ls -lsa /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh > 2 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  446 Oct 11 23:40 /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh > > The script runs manually, and I get the email. > # /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh > rm: /usr/home/pauls/102217.alldb.sql: No such file or directory > > (The previous backup doesn't exist, because the script isn't running > daily.) > > What have I missed? > > Paul Schmehl, Retired > > what version of freebsd did it first run on?  what's the version of the new machine (or more importantly, are they at the same versions?) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 24 05:10:50 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F337E3F6B2 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:10:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta03.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 212E47014E for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:10:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.0.11] ([76.183.153.52]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id 6rU7eF28ne8Ia6rUAeVt5n; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:10:43 +0000 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 00:10:39 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: Adam Vande More cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Strange periodic problem Message-ID: <4E78133D6588A3580F02D8D1@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> In-Reply-To: References: <99E0408A95C01319659D7EFF@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfJrX3for4XyJaxGeLT24URVCxW+ehFcVuvsI+mbRskZ+YROcK9MDh9veYKu2upCES37w9b2NucqIb6q+lbHki7e1EFDJw/jJb5ixbpBzE3MGEHy0SRwL b4kUKWg96JB5B4OMozC6bF35ZAPdmlxob/Bdvsw6B2gW2irbyOvK7TJhEjLBYvSVrvcn5nZHjPJKFAeRiuHYNZVMYBzck4zeJ43LHetNnWKGpavyFGgiayh1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:10:50 -0000 --On October 23, 2017 at 11:02:54 PM -0500 Adam Vande More=20 wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Paul Schmehl > wrote: > > > > I wrote a script to do database backups. It worked well, so I copied it > to another server. I had to alter it, because the db was too big to send > through email, so it creates the backup, removes the previous days and > then sends email to me notifying me that it ran. Except, it doesn't work. > > And I have no idea why. > > The periodic script is executable. ># ls -lsa /etc/periodic/daily/220.dbbackup > 2 -rwxr-xr-x=C2=A0 1 root=C2=A0 wheel=C2=A0 37 Oct 19 12:31 > /etc/periodic/daily/220.dbbackup > > The script calls sh to run the actual script. ># cat /etc/periodic/daily/220.dbbackup ># !/bin/sh > /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh > > Periodic.conf enables the script. ># grep dbbackup /etc/periodic.conf > daily_dbbackup_enable=3D"YES" > > The script itself is executable. ># ls -lsa /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh > 2 -rwxr-xr-x=C2=A0 1 root=C2=A0 wheel=C2=A0 446 Oct 11 23:40 > /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh > > The script runs manually, and I get the email. ># /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh > rm: /usr/home/pauls/102217.alldb.sql: No such file or directory > > (The previous backup doesn't exist, because the script isn't running > daily.) > > What have I missed? > > > > Does the cron log indicate entry ran? No. But that was a really good question, because now that I look at it=20 *none* of the periodic scripts are running. Strange. Paul Schmehl, Retired As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 24 05:13:35 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A5CE3F971 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta01.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F026C70461 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:13:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.0.11] ([76.183.153.52]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id 6rWmeP54WfblG6rWpeilVc; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:13:28 +0000 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 00:13:23 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange periodic problem Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <37900d35-8059-d0af-f392-a44042c5f4f9@gmail.com> References: <99E0408A95C01319659D7EFF@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <37900d35-8059-d0af-f392-a44042c5f4f9@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfAlZWZd3lBMkhQ5nNiKV6iBDTGhtcfa1N/VdbWcpXZv/iOXbOGfwd+V9NYzcqcfKj4vl8wcptZbLTLwzJYhRMifelBZeS5/zsieZrVRXKpHrDCnsemjP 0F12ACHvKVdj5wfEzLkYA7/qjZwq1zOcKbrPnxxj5I0hi7HbS6gE7pTIaQBSNw1SjDLjeny10k53OA== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:13:35 -0000 --On October 24, 2017 at 12:22:06 AM -0400 zep =20 wrote: > On 10/23/2017 10:51 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> I wrote a script to do database backups. It worked well, so I copied >> it to another server. I had to alter it, because the db was too big to >> send through email, so it creates the backup, removes the previous >> days and then sends email to me notifying me that it ran. Except, it >> doesn't work. >> >> And I have no idea why. > > what does your /etc/crontab file look like?=C2=A0 how does it compare > between the two machines? A diff shows they are identical. >> >> The periodic script is executable. >> # ls -lsa /etc/periodic/daily/220.dbbackup >> 2 -rwxr-xr-x=C2=A0 1 root=C2=A0 wheel=C2=A0 37 Oct 19 12:31 >> /etc/periodic/daily/220.dbbackup >> >> The script calls sh to run the actual script. >> # cat /etc/periodic/daily/220.dbbackup >> # !/bin/sh >> /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh >> =C2=A0 > > do you get anything more useful if you change the line to sh -x to > call the .sh file?=C2=A0 is it possible there are some weird control > characters in any of those files?=C2=A0 e.g. do they still look the > same if you cat -v them? > Well, they're not the same. They're quite similar, but not the same. In=20 answering Adam's question, I now realize that NONE of the periodic scripts=20 are running. >> Periodic.conf enables the script. >> # grep dbbackup /etc/periodic.conf >> daily_dbbackup_enable=3D"YES" >> >> The script itself is executable. >> # ls -lsa /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh >> 2 -rwxr-xr-x=C2=A0 1 root=C2=A0 wheel=C2=A0 446 Oct 11 23:40 >> /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh >> >> The script runs manually, and I get the email. >> # /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh >> rm: /usr/home/pauls/102217.alldb.sql: No such file or directory >> >> (The previous backup doesn't exist, because the script isn't running >> daily.) >> >> What have I missed? >> >> Paul Schmehl, Retired >> >> > > what version of freebsd did it first run on?=C2=A0 what's the version of = the > new machine (or more importantly, are they at the same versions?) > Both machines are running FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Paul Schmehl, Retired As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 24 05:35:32 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A279E405CE for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:35:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta02.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C0E470DEF for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:35:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.0.11] ([76.183.153.52]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id 6rpee8KMxFdSR6rpgecyGK; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:32:57 +0000 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 00:32:52 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: Adam Vande More cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Strange periodic problem Message-ID: <18B2B9253D99A3E5D84E661D@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> In-Reply-To: <4E78133D6588A3580F02D8D1@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> References: <99E0408A95C01319659D7EFF@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <4E78133D6588A3580F02D8D1@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfF5OlKjvG9kThfCUprraHQSV6x3W571jGJ+j5lDugmE2Je+Mre1J6/jZyh3tlTvhyTk0fmQbk7kYCQ79IlFtbtefqJ+rcqXJE01tgMgDwiRm4GPbisra 389Gti1qJ6rze1K2kAevnC/tbRxQY1sixl/xMgUwrAlys8bV009xTdAwFDHLCC8650WvqdjV/VOsAxhQGwCwtsl05Q9DGvQ1ChKiQKtHvxq9Fo3mRC8lbppm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:35:32 -0000 --On October 24, 2017 at 12:10:39 AM -0500 Paul Schmehl=20 wrote: > --On October 23, 2017 at 11:02:54 PM -0500 Adam Vande More > wrote: > >> >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Paul Schmehl >> wrote: >> >> >> >> I wrote a script to do database backups. It worked well, so I copied it >> to another server. I had to alter it, because the db was too big to send >> through email, so it creates the backup, removes the previous days and >> then sends email to me notifying me that it ran. Except, it doesn't = work. >> >> And I have no idea why. >> >> The periodic script is executable. >># ls -lsa /etc/periodic/daily/220.dbbackup >> 2 -rwxr-xr-x=C2=A0 1 root=C2=A0 wheel=C2=A0 37 Oct 19 12:31 >> /etc/periodic/daily/220.dbbackup >> >> The script calls sh to run the actual script. >># cat /etc/periodic/daily/220.dbbackup >># !/bin/sh >> /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh >> >> Periodic.conf enables the script. >># grep dbbackup /etc/periodic.conf >> daily_dbbackup_enable=3D"YES" >> >> The script itself is executable. >># ls -lsa /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh >> 2 -rwxr-xr-x=C2=A0 1 root=C2=A0 wheel=C2=A0 446 Oct 11 23:40 >> /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh >> >> The script runs manually, and I get the email. >># /usr/local/bin/dbbackup.sh >> rm: /usr/home/pauls/102217.alldb.sql: No such file or directory >> >> (The previous backup doesn't exist, because the script isn't running >> daily.) >> >> What have I missed? >> >> >> >> Does the cron log indicate entry ran? > > No. But that was a really good question, because now that I look at it > *none* of the periodic scripts are running. Strange. > This is incorrect. I've confirmed that the jobs are running, but there is=20 no entry in /var/log/cron for any of them, which seems strange. I'll have to investigate further. Paul Schmehl, Retired From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 24 05:43:15 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E83E40B32 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:43:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@webtent.org) Received: from mx2.webtent.net (mx2.webtent.net [216.139.202.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC2AA713CB for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:43:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@webtent.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Exchange) with ESMTP id AAF20D7EB5 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 01:37:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx2.webtent.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 77873-09 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 01:37:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.112] (media.rfitz.com [96.254.71.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: robert@mx2.webtent.net) by mx2.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Exchange) with ESMTPSA id 18318D7E8A for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 01:37:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <59EED17B.2080101@webtent.org> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 01:36:59 -0400 From: Robert Fitzpatrick User-Agent: Postbox 4.0.8 (Windows/20151105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Subject: canceling freebsd-update Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: WebTent Mailguard 1.0.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:43:15 -0000 I have a VM that needed more disk space. When I logged in to shutdown, I see this is 10.1-RELEASE so I decided to update the machine. After which I went ahead and initated an upgrade to 10.4 by running 'freebsd-update -r 10.4-RELEASE upgrade'. As the machine was fetching, I realized the /var drive does not have so much disk space. All merging went perfectly, only a couple of files to manually merge and ended up with only a little over 500MB free space (94% usage) on /var after. I decided not to commit and free up some space first and did not issue the 'freebsd-update install'. The system has been rebooted since I shutdown to grow the disk of this VM, came back up as 10.1-RELEASE-p41 and I finished the disk maintenance and now have plenty of space on /var. Now, should I run the install when ready or should I cancel that previous upgrade and start over somehow? -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 24 08:00:52 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B3FE43F17 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 08:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AC4B7495E for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 08:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.202.132.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7DDFF1360 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 08:00:43 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: canceling freebsd-update To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <59EED17B.2080101@webtent.org> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 09:00:43 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <59EED17B.2080101@webtent.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 08:00:52 -0000 On 24/10/2017 06:36, Robert Fitzpatrick via freebsd-questions wrote: > I have a VM that needed more disk space. When I logged in to shutdown, I > see this is 10.1-RELEASE so I decided to update the machine. After which > I went ahead and initated an upgrade to 10.4 by running 'freebsd-update > -r 10.4-RELEASE upgrade'. As the machine was fetching, I realized the > /var drive does not have so much disk space. All merging went perfectly, > only a couple of files to manually merge and ended up with only a little > over 500MB free space (94% usage) on /var after. I decided not to commit > and free up some space first and did not issue the 'freebsd-update > install'. The system has been rebooted since I shutdown to grow the disk > of this VM, came back up as 10.1-RELEASE-p41 and I finished the disk > maintenance and now have plenty of space on /var. > > Now, should I run the install when ready or should I cancel that > previous upgrade and start over somehow? You can just carry on the freebsd-update process from where you left off. You've got the upgrade to 10.4-RELEASE sitting prepared in /var/db/freebsd-update and ready to go. Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 24 12:14:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23510E4B505 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 12:14:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x22c.google.com (mail-it0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE7C681437 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 12:14:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id k70so8247640itk.0 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:14:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5vgOoJZamroB5NSZ13nlesZK++Vwc5lklrKnLVGXnJ4=; b=SeQyADjnhh61pgzknzM9jAyEyYegfLXu6AwkKGqEvs06RaXqfHjjAQkpuSIDc8NuVG j/drNx8Ml2yTUZB18XLRDMuHu8/Wksb/h+j5Qr73Lvw35DBYBFcjbayzVSv4WEqDtT9X +NximCus7buG7Np/iT6LN8In3Pn6LloQXL7Cnv8X0p0wCiZyuK6vTkPds0yU1i9v73/x WxEXJU1Pw1W8ij7xWk5MWV9+ChploWcZSPB4comIJSLNJ8vqRHdtc1EcIZUIvOxMx2Dh 8duh5JF2G1G4KiVLRb8qexJRLvE+/O4hlW0y5WITl9FQzZDMkKiYsLfY/iHdJFbYyoF2 F0ww== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5vgOoJZamroB5NSZ13nlesZK++Vwc5lklrKnLVGXnJ4=; b=R6W/9R3GO6HLn1LMdlhhAgNxMiFGY+ZzCEpr50KClh0BJ/AYEyZ84RnLi5iThqx+m4 z122i13DG6PQ/+VJUefOn7MHibJZshVVSWlGf9E1IIFu0/scZbODQZfrFBABSlghbhEv AzRa0qoKX3xQOaisTiXXdf8Ssm7HEI0k/GE5ocU+KiNNoUJ/H6aJl7+ioXXV5KTv3tlk Tye6owePqZivnfH1C4vMnMq4rAZvDjgbYZgeInCHsQw3Unhf7vEe3S+rmrBVLzvYKFOV MvdsoBdo2PpGjeqByi2fS5muzhLzd35oNP89WzPMmaZ6+wwQEhrjPQcWJk5Ko3ESYjvA 9T5A== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaWB270aIlWA5FnMQYb7Plx7TeCwlvbf9oRghSTC6NxfDs/t76zI xU1ppcOfWMYNwv0MjJbFjeCe8A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+TSYDPVWN5Ehm0Q/orURnIxuSaYYfqCzbgCa9F4Sv4SnwPkFCvGQK0oxZaVAYrVk9EjtEilhw== X-Received: by 10.36.86.137 with SMTP id o131mr13852424itb.7.1508847258203; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.5] (cpe-65-25-53-37.neo.res.rr.com. [65.25.53.37]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id e99sm63414itd.40.2017.10.24.05.14.17 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:14:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <59EF2E9D.2060408@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 08:14:21 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: local_unbound disable trusted-anchor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 12:14:19 -0000 How can I stop local_unbound from automatically performing trusted anchor at local_unbound start? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 24 12:22:26 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C26A9E4BA64 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 12:22:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B6DA818EB for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 12:22:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id v9OCKeQR038637; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 23:20:44 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 23:20:40 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no cc: Efren Bravo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Routing problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20171024230440.N32145@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 12:22:26 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 699, Issue 2, Message: 8 On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:30:26 +0200 (CEST) Trond Endrest?l wrote: > On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:19-0400, Efren Bravo wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > I installed a FreeBSD 10.1 box and upgraded to 10.4. I tried to configure > > this box as a FW but I can't get ping works from inside LAN to outside > > world, neither any tcp/upd connection. Basic configs: > > > > router ip: 190.92.124.89 > > > > kernel (recompiled & installed OK): > > a lot of innecesary things disabled before recompilation > > --- > > options IPFILTER > > options IPFILTER_LOG > > options IPFILTER_LOOKUP > > options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK > > > > /etc/rc.conf > > --- > > > #WAN > > ifconfig_re0="inet 190.92.124.90 netmask 255.255.255.248" > > Public IPv4 address space. > > > # LAN > > ifconfig_em0="inet 10.170.0.1 netmask 25.255.255.128" > > Private IPv4 address space. > > Do you plan on setting up NAT44 on this box? You should if you want > this setup to work as expected. Indeed, some variety of NAT daemon. But also .. > > defaultrouter="190.92.124.89" > > gateway_eanble="YES" .. that needs to be 'gateway_enable'. % grep -wA7 gateway_enable /etc/rc.d/routing After fixing /etc/rc.conf one can just run: # service routing restart or even (until next boot or routing restart) just: # sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 24 12:39:42 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100A0E4BF8E for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 12:39:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22f.google.com (mail-io0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB33A81F64 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 12:39:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id 101so23691301ioj.3 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:39:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Vx77f9Kkz/Yx2nQIARllqWGmPGZ1BtGJ6A4tV/Fijg8=; b=crNYme5H0VOIEF4W46eeiWBd7xMC/pyFLHbGu8ZnLSmWX9wPoW9zfCMI0dZOwteNEK vo7DwU6HQY1H5wLpCstva2Cs0aJYOKg0HsPyajsHY1zQ3/7+KnTXeKBwXHm4riZRJ70A FhXDIloZe2ZH0fZkwpZ6urkF3zKAgctPS+fffT0hH9MtK+6j89eZeeO5wDWx8mgJbRzw oWCVHlGdmVgswvYvTORUd8Bv8K8QHvn76UwmXGeNpyoAAApqEyZDq438i2GJD/+IIHLX AWGYMqdJbIXjA77jQQnSzz1KIwEMcEcuEbtkZAN7Gk79RMJI5aFO+lbWKJ52uTUJDz+N Z9lw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Vx77f9Kkz/Yx2nQIARllqWGmPGZ1BtGJ6A4tV/Fijg8=; b=nteAtnyu7xtDJPC6US9IRmSCkHGaFy2/oaDUkcaaJ6EfGendRbTE853W35OqYKT1RH WvyWojiR7seOYOa+WpFbK2iiHR75ZqtDsp1lcpatClhyDDJKTKqfUS45XotrrExBnKwu 4OaYxurwqkQQ6CPtVc+vBEFOO0yVhBgtA91oKlkz/4P6Mpn1P9Z6PI37JS65vL7XcgS9 0z5Y5g8NxOOrEo2nHVkQZbFaM9mD+UxzQexLB4u64lanzHtnmV3MXAw/N1SVPPKhxbSf jXehRpWUKQfn0f8IlvaaipOvZILdO/Z55uYeIS5cXpmTeTnrHy4P4JmID6wG0SURDbB5 0dgw== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaXGyxPvz6XBRczU4mUl+TA3LgRRmseaKJgb4r6gS6cUpPeqSYb9 zBaitwkWG52x57WUzokwf+rPpA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+S+NR0zSOtYQ7zOE3ZG7EJqwS2aGK8s2E5yDZv7v2uCeMCpcltQ6WXhq+SMHMndbdnT01/0JQ== X-Received: by 10.107.136.223 with SMTP id s92mr21242117ioi.294.1508848781061; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.5] (cpe-65-25-53-37.neo.res.rr.com. [65.25.53.37]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id h95sm90868ioi.36.2017.10.24.05.39.40 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <59EF3490.3000108@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 08:39:44 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Search freebsd lists archives do not function correctly Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 12:39:42 -0000 Went here https://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists. All 4 options take you places that don't generate valid search results. Markmail leaves you with a screen of archives month by month. Thats just plan useless. This official website page need fixing. How do people search the question archives? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 24 13:18:36 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80475E4C950 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 13:18:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x235.google.com (mail-it0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 52B5B82FBA for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 13:18:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x235.google.com with SMTP id c3so9944987itc.3 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 06:18:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=IYQ9wYZyjPA+DpWXFn8goyBUxXn6tVTsXpdIQZTYNCI=; b=WXz9R2M36c6jbrDUXotcvBDaypB6oegSmqfuPUzyIRn0Jb9lP9d3aEbQKxIjw6yNLv 6HclELTC20N7voHPR1YbZbfQ9lRo/o2l9GhdZEfhK9I6z4gPaiRwkOVR+fH5jt9CtyEE TbHsBQVVVPiPtviG/4YHF2BssG1dJa0lojzFRITkWzwqXo1WdB1zqDm7Uphz4XnbzGVe HC/lRmaq/MZ5Hz78Qvd5TYCHf0Xkd72h+twfzgs8XlN87sTzTgpFgW8ikgUzrPZguV72 jxU38yGQscdWiXt0+TDOfprRUxIVQyWITWWLsIWf7NrjrEZJevOPdA8iHM8+NVd/US2q r5Wg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=IYQ9wYZyjPA+DpWXFn8goyBUxXn6tVTsXpdIQZTYNCI=; b=BdllGp8PtJewvZaxd8TbZOsSSjHNpKhr29R1nfr89K4f/hIWSm2J26J9chBTNqdBz+ hm12dzjkHsmySAtXFBUU2qYFKg6t8jaiYr4oyEa04mrM2qTM42CnYpn77HJcWcECMPjv uzY2IghdUBYZr0tHuL3tKo8Ur6+Q7AEcqKW96OMugzqc6cS54BI8EYdSSulCMMKlyHWy NaNU44OFHkPlq6GBw0pDJFe42GXD4EpkefGNJKZb+EKI2BPpXdy0teWSu/xJRVlZttFx FUmWo8xLfFqgC8guUNDUbKzm5l50YX6iDgg/+y1UoebUQaIBo+HK4WoZoI4mPylxF/IV m79w== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaVY2F7bwsAm5fC1xNKWjI8dIHCgL+9iPrur+bERETaphk4cq23q /a631YtwxQEnLDFpjUlA1y0S5VuAKMxJuvNU+WtGtg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+SBX0LpUv0kQMiHMJiLHZ7P8oVDLt1zh4NS6gbVP8EMzczdHEKstYJOPYR+lEmNBt2X/vvmaLhmvinwNJGHGNc= X-Received: by 10.36.36.9 with SMTP id f9mr12941545ita.11.1508851115615; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 06:18:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.2.176.201 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 06:18:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E78133D6588A3580F02D8D1@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> References: <99E0408A95C01319659D7EFF@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <4E78133D6588A3580F02D8D1@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> From: Adam Vande More Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 08:18:35 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Strange periodic problem To: Paul Schmehl Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 13:18:36 -0000 On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:10 AM, Paul Schmehl wrote: > No. But that was a really good question, because now that I look at it > *none* of the periodic scripts are running. Strange. > # /etc/rc.d/cron restart # /etc/rc.d/cron status Ensure it is running. Most likely it would log something to /var/log/messages about the attempt. Another option is to start cron in the foreground and examine it's output. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 24 14:00:18 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC66E4DD65; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 14:00:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22b.google.com (mail-io0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8304784C44; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 14:00:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id h70so23947906ioi.4; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 07:00:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-transfer-encoding; bh=d5sbBsG9EuIgqIkE5E/ngadj5eH+bn9zzVThcNeLN2k=; b=T/8CmtQNuSqRLm/t/o2DUR8xuapJrQYgCmFJqA9OfFRw6P2DU1ZHREAT8UD9H7INL+ 1jZwCTxjGkVlXP9sivC3xHpvf/cR1tktkb33cnyusFQemysw4+CD7xjoynDSKgBcq5aw w6cISY+nStBUnvqw6WojZFM9a6dxJtkBFouOZf4LAZoZ8o+/cIYhXhH/4nXmnTSw6TdL w8uvsd8GmDLl9WZj0PT3TIzGF+1gQJJFTmALwAvEP2nFBW9w/Udalz/3iSqUuGptKUCT BFbZKJ7BCMjjMfHDPB1WEz44zqXa/ysUNniMYBIwuKR/2WbJ8Bs5AoePn6oFG8k5emuw yRcA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-transfer-encoding; bh=d5sbBsG9EuIgqIkE5E/ngadj5eH+bn9zzVThcNeLN2k=; b=UOiH7BQytw3qN1jC9gehqJJC7EnQC6mv7vsU4Kja/IuiVyrKAoUo37rbfRiahKVXrm yOFz7RND4STSviubPZ6cgd5l/DfrbtcFtm+q6/wcasYvnsAFOKzspKKsuvPCqJTgo9AO iOGlMG5d8hJUKDMzzHz9IK28xgch/Hn/8UOEe//WDzmHBLS8/LwPdS+4O7r3ijmmcYuD yLjAyLmy9p/ShXjcceC26sHpX2M73cbwLDd1gJWakvfE5+V/J+oUS16oL4iO6QOkL6Mq NSklpfm+25MEH3PC88UunhEw44VTrDihbl73WY14QHSvl3khihBRIaP7A0VJHhiyhTd7 mNqQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaVEkNpNPp8k8pDl/SX5Uwx3sz8d35Ejmn8PWJr6Lp9/2woIcVXH mDQOOD/0jAQC46Av+GNPxrrYYQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+SPI6OSgsw2zriITgX+KRKrkKtR1vWNeJqa6ZOk24V3Rzdj4fACzhoutoUXg7tSMqRUbiaHnw== X-Received: by 10.107.17.68 with SMTP id z65mr19488225ioi.3.1508853617812; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 07:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.5] (cpe-65-25-53-37.neo.res.rr.com. [65.25.53.37]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id s17sm159508ioi.28.2017.10.24.07.00.17 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 24 Oct 2017 07:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <59EF4775.40009@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 10:00:21 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ports@FreeBSD.org" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: openssl problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 14:00:18 -0000 I do "pkg install openssl" that works ok. But from that point I get 2 different messages at port make time depending on the port being installed. /usr/ports/sysutils/qjail >make install clean /!\ WARNING /!\ You have security/openssl installed but do not have DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=ssl=openssl set in your make.conf Which stops if I add DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=ssl=openssl to /etc/make.conf Get this error all the time, even with /etc/make.com populated with DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=ssl=openssl /usr/ports/www/links >make install clean make: "/usr/ports/Mk/Uses/ssl.mk" line 77: You are using an unsupported SSL provider openssl I see this needing 2 solutions. 1. The openssl port needs to be changes so it populates /etc/make.conf with DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=ssl=openssl 2. The /usr/ports/Mk/Uses/ssl.mk" line 77 needs to be changed to resolve this bogus error message. Any thoughts on these solutions? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 24 14:16:04 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1189E4E652; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 14:16:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: from apnoea.adamw.org (apnoea.adamw.org [104.225.5.94]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "apnoea.adamw.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80609CE2; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 14:16:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamw@adamw.org) Received: by apnoea.adamw.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 8f34efea TLS version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 08:15:57 -0600 (MDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Subject: Re: openssl problem From: Adam Weinberger In-Reply-To: <59EF4775.40009@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 08:15:55 -0600 Cc: "ports@FreeBSD.org" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8A81AECC-858E-442B-93B2-99D71491BA7D@adamw.org> References: <59EF4775.40009@gmail.com> To: Ernie Luzar X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 14:16:05 -0000 > On 24 Oct, 2017, at 8:00, Ernie Luzar wrote: >=20 > I do "pkg install openssl" that works ok. >=20 > But from that point I get 2 different messages at port make time = depending on the port being installed. >=20 > /usr/ports/sysutils/qjail >make install clean > /!\ WARNING /!\ >=20 > You have security/openssl installed but do not have > DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=3Dssl=3Dopenssl set in your make.conf >=20 > Which stops if I add DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=3Dssl=3Dopenssl to = /etc/make.conf >=20 >=20 > Get this error all the time, even with /etc/make.com populated with = DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=3Dssl=3Dopenssl >=20 > /usr/ports/www/links >make install clean > make: "/usr/ports/Mk/Uses/ssl.mk" line 77: You are using > an unsupported SSL provider openssl >=20 > I see this needing 2 solutions. >=20 > 1. The openssl port needs to be changes so it populates /etc/make.conf = with DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=3Dssl=3Dopenssl That is unlikely ever to happen. The workflow isn't "install openssl, = make.conf is updated", it's "make.conf is updated (by you), now when you = install things openssl is brought in automatically." No port should ever = be touching things in /etc without a tremendously good reason. > 2. The /usr/ports/Mk/Uses/ssl.mk" line 77 needs to be changed to = resolve this bogus error message. I'm not sure how you're getting this message, as openssl is definitely a = valid value. Is this on quarterly or HEAD? How old is your ports tree? = What else is in your make.conf? # Adam --=20 Adam Weinberger adamw@adamw.org https://www.adamw.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 24 15:30:54 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216B9E50A39; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 15:30:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-190.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.190]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "www.dweimer.net", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE87C64085; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 15:30:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from www.dweimer.net (ugs-3p.dweimer.local [10.9.5.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v9OFUZmX044548 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 24 Oct 2017 10:30:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=dweimer.net; s=2017.01.31; t=1508859035; bh=0KpjmEvMm6ieJPfHWNFh38CbQhXZmnQ1TMdzUVrG8y0=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Reply-To:In-Reply-To:References; b=k2os/bJyX6hgz3B9cVXcV3GW11usA/EjDT1mHCbZyYd2MqX2oXcLnarVRFklBHjUb nxEW+32UWGfHv+23t5XcfXse5fLj8YaDF6Rotjp7w7QriVI9FBaQbVQvdqKLIOHUv8 5rHNcbxMVJpigqZCUhDq3kMM/bg2kPX2NXvtdjQgCc6tafGqjPWMGEqTZEEQM19+EX y+HH8tMVQKHLWeBTYTz6I0YvjuwQxRUZgbwH+reLM1AaNjWE7Owk5bTCkyqwXVi4iT 4AjpAdPk1gxUatvnoHcigzwmptC8sVc6zDa+hSKL7kig/HP7bq4J0WMUJJ+F8qs8SC lb5Th8p242pRA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 10:30:35 -0500 From: "Dean E. Weimer" To: Adam Weinberger Cc: Ernie Luzar , "ports@FreeBSD.org" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openssl problem Organization: dweimer.net Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net In-Reply-To: <8A81AECC-858E-442B-93B2-99D71491BA7D@adamw.org> References: <59EF4775.40009@gmail.com> <8A81AECC-858E-442B-93B2-99D71491BA7D@adamw.org> Message-ID: <4952b2a19db0a9026fa39f78f8e64962@dweimer.net> X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 15:30:54 -0000 On 2017-10-24 9:15 am, Adam Weinberger wrote: >> On 24 Oct, 2017, at 8:00, Ernie Luzar wrote: >> >> I do "pkg install openssl" that works ok. >> >> But from that point I get 2 different messages at port make time >> depending on the port being installed. >> >> /usr/ports/sysutils/qjail >make install clean >> /!\ WARNING /!\ >> >> You have security/openssl installed but do not have >> DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=ssl=openssl set in your make.conf >> >> Which stops if I add DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=ssl=openssl to /etc/make.conf >> >> >> Get this error all the time, even with /etc/make.com populated with >> DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=ssl=openssl >> >> /usr/ports/www/links >make install clean >> make: "/usr/ports/Mk/Uses/ssl.mk" line 77: You are using >> an unsupported SSL provider openssl >> >> I see this needing 2 solutions. >> >> 1. The openssl port needs to be changes so it populates /etc/make.conf >> with DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=ssl=openssl > > That is unlikely ever to happen. The workflow isn't "install openssl, > make.conf is updated", it's "make.conf is updated (by you), now when > you install things openssl is brought in automatically." No port > should ever be touching things in /etc without a tremendously good > reason. > >> 2. The /usr/ports/Mk/Uses/ssl.mk" line 77 needs to be changed to >> resolve this bogus error message. > > I'm not sure how you're getting this message, as openssl is definitely > a valid value. Is this on quarterly or HEAD? How old is your ports > tree? What else is in your make.conf? > > # Adam from /usr/ports/Mk/Uses/ssl.mk: ... 11 # DEFAULT_VERSIONS+= ssl= 12 # 13 # Variants being base, openssl, openssl-devel, libressl, and libressl-devel ... 73 # Get OPENSSL_SHLIBVER from the port 74 .sinclude <${PORTSDIR}/${OPENSSL_PORT}/version.mk> 75 76 . if !defined(OPENSSL_SHLIBVER) 77 .error You are using an unsupported SSL provider ${SSL_DEFAULT} 78 . endif ... Not sure if this means that the port www/links doesn't work with openssl in ports, or if this is caused by other dependent ports need to be rebuilt now that you have added the line to make.conf By adding the option in make.conf you are telling the ports they should use openssl from ports instead of the openssl libraries in base. The warning you received is just because the system recognized that openssl from ports was installed but without an option set it was still building against base. The assumption being that you wouldn't have installed it without wanting to build against it instead, so it wants to let you know. If you change from one to the other you should rebuild all ports that use OpenSSL to make sure they are all using the same OpenSSL libraries. -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 24 15:55:00 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCA82E516B2 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 15:55:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efrenba@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x235.google.com (mail-io0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 932946503E for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 15:55:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efrenba@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x235.google.com with SMTP id f20so24373922ioj.9 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 08:55:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=pjWrejXuvsG1oj9FYfZAjHF7Mhp/8MZpZC3qev4alCM=; b=UO//qfxvPuLoHKp7GROWbnCZKvKJ0O8kIhCr8kCPKdrVcrr6qky7yhyLXs++Liwcmd vL2Yhu9xOsHIEokg+uHtbS4OBDQttDelq7jVM5hdXHH8X+hDsMCBH9BqS+H8MS5Wt7GQ IOZcS/pj4TvNwKEetkfmAl3ilFPr6sFrFHPwzEACZaQPDFCmKFS44KzX8Gyiou6uqw/r R27IXiptIv+/E1f7uuaocEsa+v/msbdS+0r+cfYz32bpwH8HPgFSoq5zOPs83q176r69 0oUW6zq4DL1IxD/g2A/3TvpoEw/I3OG+LSez2onZRr54EYFS7BRU3xBAlWlo6ayoqNQr oABw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=pjWrejXuvsG1oj9FYfZAjHF7Mhp/8MZpZC3qev4alCM=; b=Iz4dKlm4tiZ9ezUne+lkYcSuDDP8OPqF9toMaGLomC/7HXzdbTvsQVkPglbNidyP6g oWiEXbCEszeg/e1JnG7U06Zp4shR4jhWl4hrQh2/o4YjnMjqkRyadMNwjeMJXc8JsAaI qj2JVwu7ZVM8V9Jo/d7MnLiNX3CgnjAIFFkOlQwSohKtlPBtaKBg170+izm1/tch+KuE +6O9eMciGEYXAc5yt/ca8CAK2A42e8gCNG3piz6HVIckn/Y+tGCx0/UenB0S5/YkCbNl mkMvJWDddr/zl7xFAsVUCqkieUHz5ZLrCceybWCiJH9HlmIoielnRrUcogQBF4e2odGo faVg== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaUptUY4jKo766cLqo828tF//waG0Om2QPLs418XE1KfF2xOF/fy iQ8G9GKHY6sHqMiSWLejpqIbZ4/EvBLSvGCsxyH2Mg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+RPKX8/OFfd4ndw9PmRvcK0axuLJ/ROZXt3MgBL81ASJWOExfjZ2xfFWwjZoeNZVqtf6e5xiXfDW+xznJ9VKZI= X-Received: by 10.107.47.133 with SMTP id v5mr20798713iov.22.1508860499961; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 08:54:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.2.80.199 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 08:54:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20171024230440.N32145@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20171024230440.N32145@sola.nimnet.asn.au> From: Efren Bravo Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 11:54:59 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Routing problem To: Ian Smith Cc: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 15:55:00 -0000 @Ian Smith: gateway_enable="YES" I wrote ok, was my mistake when I copy it into the email and sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=1. thanks @Trond Endrestol I didn't know about all those NATs (NAT44, NAT444, NAT64, etc), when I installed a fw box 10 years ago they didn't exist, I think, because I followed the same config and it worked. Now, the question is, how to make it work? thanks 2017-10-24 8:20 GMT-04:00 Ian Smith : > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 699, Issue 2, Message: 8 > On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:30:26 +0200 (CEST) > Trond Endrest?l wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:19-0400, Efren Bravo wrote: > > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > I installed a FreeBSD 10.1 box and upgraded to 10.4. I tried to > configure > > > this box as a FW but I can't get ping works from inside LAN to outside > > > world, neither any tcp/upd connection. Basic configs: > > > > > > router ip: 190.92.124.89 > > > > > > kernel (recompiled & installed OK): > > > a lot of innecesary things disabled before recompilation > > > --- > > > options IPFILTER > > > options IPFILTER_LOG > > > options IPFILTER_LOOKUP > > > options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK > > > > > > /etc/rc.conf > > > --- > > > > > #WAN > > > ifconfig_re0="inet 190.92.124.90 netmask 255.255.255.248" > > > > Public IPv4 address space. > > > > > # LAN > > > ifconfig_em0="inet 10.170.0.1 netmask 25.255.255.128" > > > > Private IPv4 address space. > > > > Do you plan on setting up NAT44 on this box? You should if you want > > this setup to work as expected. > > Indeed, some variety of NAT daemon. But also .. > > > > defaultrouter="190.92.124.89" > > > gateway_eanble="YES" > > .. that needs to be 'gateway_enable'. > > % grep -wA7 gateway_enable /etc/rc.d/routing > > After fixing /etc/rc.conf one can just run: > # service routing restart > > or even (until next boot or routing restart) just: > # sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 > > cheers, Ian > -- ---------------- Efren Bravo From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 24 17:02:59 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB16E52DB8 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 17:02:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from msa.san.navalradio.net (msa.san.navalradio.net [206.251.255.83]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FBD167199 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 17:02:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from [192.168.0.121] (181-162-114-199.baf.movistar.cl [181.162.114.199]) (authenticated bits=0) by msa.san.navalradio.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPA id v9OGkCsf027517; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 16:46:13 GMT (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) X-Authentication-Warning: msa.san.navalradio.net: Host 181-162-114-199.baf.movistar.cl [181.162.114.199] claimed to be [192.168.0.121] Subject: Re: zpool question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <795bb6c7-9fac-1c92-17d9-4db228787b10@yahoo.com> From: Mikhail Goriachev Message-ID: <3711f042-8ee4-177c-5ae2-6702802fce0d@webanoide.org> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 13:48:42 -0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <795bb6c7-9fac-1c92-17d9-4db228787b10@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: es-ES Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 17:02:59 -0000 On 24/10/2017 00:43, Paul Pathiakis via freebsd-questions wrote: > There is a ton of how to do this on FreeBSD. > > Read the man pages on zpool and zfs... read the Wikis... read the > HowTos..... > > Never assume that the data will be there....  BACK IT UP! :-) > > You may try: > > cd /home > > tar cpf . - | xz > /usr/home.tar.xz ^^^ Swap them around. 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charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins From: Dale Scott In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 23:14:43 -0600 (MDT) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-Id: References: To: Manish Jain X-Mailer: Zimbra 8.6.0_GA_1200 (MobileSync - Apple-iPad4C4/1407.60) Thread-Topic: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins Thread-Index: AQHTTTg78Up/UQscYUawsMqqsh/k7776bH3U X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfF/SHr+oQICOEFRzCml70+f0IsM5Uvbaf4Hf4Ij3OM65cbDqj/SwPsN3GqbWBw1xl8ogBQn7XhBJ8Mzc69BluGKpw7duT+K15Co/hYgOCPn+jhy6VZ16 Cwileo7pE/Bnobok3ClrKcSVfH6tlwsGvc+zkBL8PGZhF5jH5s2btpCPW5Juabcxt1ZYR75YXLnlxbiBvynBO9d7LU2N6eeBDW8IWHCmambAh6Gbcexd+B/v VWcmeF5CbXEgkxGcRL1rFQ== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 05:14:53 -0000 On Oct 24, 2017, at 8:23 PM, Manish Jain wrote= : > ... > But I run into roughly the same weather with shell built-ins, most of=20 > which do not have their own man page. 'man set' rather blandly throws up > the man page for the shell, and it takes an immense effort to glean the=20= > relevant information. I too get frustrated trying to find man information on shell built-ins. Mayb= e my problem is that I don't look often enough to learn a pattern. Cheers, Dale= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 25 06:14:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0ADE40400 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 06:14:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 156D0832D4 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 06:14:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:f4e1:a501:ca0d:ce6f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 411A514E5 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 06:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 07:14:28 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XRgpEEW3goqSm8JThvJuMM8dCkV1BEsMb" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 06:14:38 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --XRgpEEW3goqSm8JThvJuMM8dCkV1BEsMb Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="TpMFCkb8uDnHQXQgaF6RvcgFV2Keqr2TJ"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins References: In-Reply-To: --TpMFCkb8uDnHQXQgaF6RvcgFV2Keqr2TJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 25/10/2017 03:23, Manish Jain wrote: > (Note : some built-ins (e.g. 'test') do have their own man pages) That's because there's a stand-alone test(1) as well as a shell built-in.= > Is it not possible to create separate man pages for the shell built-ins= =20 > too ? Or at least ensure that invoking the built-in with --help gets th= e=20 > necessary information ? I'm sure creating separate man pages is possible: it's just a question of someone stepping up and doing the work. 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Or at least ensure that invoking the built-in with --help gets the >> necessary information ? > > I'm sure creating separate man pages is possible: it's just a question > of someone stepping up and doing the work. "man builtin" suggests there might be a few problems in organising the new pages. Some builtins work in both shells, others in only one, some have external equivalents, others don't. Some builtins work differently in the two shells. For example, do we have one page for echo or three: echo(bin), echo(sh) and echo(csh)? /bin/echo has a single flag, the sh builtin has two and the csh builtin mimics one or the other depending on a csh variable setting. Yes, it just needs someone to do the work but making the new pages coherent and clear would take more effort than it first seems. -- An amusing coincidence: log2(58) = 5.858 (to 0.0003% accuracy). From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 25 07:53:18 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C7DE41D02 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 07:53:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erwan@rail.eu.org) Received: from voyageurs.rail.eu.org (voyageurs.rail.eu.org [IPv6:2001:bc8:30d3::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D642D1DBD for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 07:53:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erwan@rail.eu.org) Received: from [100.123.219.102] (unknown [80.215.172.137]) by voyageurs.rail.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 04C922CC0628 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:53:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Erwan DAVID To: Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:53:05 +0200 Message-ID: <15f52853ee8.2787.c09309b3b9b6c7ba483efefa0c51d672@rail.eu.org> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: AquaMail/1.11.0-568 (build: 101100004) Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rail.eu.org; s=mail; t=1508917987; bh=i0F2BIXYvCPPQnyMNHI+4z7ITUZicXm3Gp4vXS3NOaY=; h=From:To:Date:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=BKqO+l/E08IauaU8jkZTczpAO6y1Xu8nDWkCmUeZozrr+ALT95k46YDntg17+NQeakIwZ62ugJHA96ZocolJ3LBcZ8wsc+uaY0ty8PQt9xvAMlhJBWQPrrP+SOMYArLGj9spw5VscpndpwvooNyV8VnYHnWxrZaqwD/6/LopqSY= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 07:53:18 -0000 Le 25 octobre 2017 08:14:47 Matthew Seaman a écrit : > On 25/10/2017 03:23, Manish Jain wrote: >> (Note : some built-ins (e.g. 'test') do have their own man pages) > > That's because there's a stand-alone test(1) as well as a shell built-in. > >> Is it not possible to create separate man pages for the shell built-ins >> too ? Or at least ensure that invoking the built-in with --help gets the >> necessary information ? > > I'm sure creating separate man pages is possible: it's just a question > of someone stepping up and doing the work. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > That would mean doing a new section per shell eg (1bash) (1csh) (1zsh) each shell has its own builtins, Hicham can differ (compare set in bash and csh ) -- Erwan David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 25 08:03:07 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617A6E42277 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:03:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bourne.identity@hotmail.com) Received: from EUR02-AM5-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-oln040092067098.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.92.67.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT SSL SHA2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C724D21CB for ; 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charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.fig.ol.no X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:07:43 -0000 On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 11:54-0400, Efren Bravo wrote: > @Ian Smith: gateway_enable="YES" I wrote ok, was my mistake when I copy it > into the email and sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=1. thanks > > @Trond Endrestol > > I didn't know about all those NATs (NAT44, NAT444, NAT64, etc), when I > installed a fw box 10 years ago they didn't exist, I think, because I > followed the same config and it worked. Now, the question is, how to make > it work? NAT(44) has been around for more than 20 years, and is partially responsible for delaying the deployment of IPv6. Read Section 29.5 on ipf (ipfilter) in the Handbook: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-ipf.html Subsection 29.5.4 says how to configure NAT(44). -- Trond. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 25 08:10:17 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85222E4254C for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:10:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B2CE2530 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:10:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.202.132.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BA5D314F3; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins To: Arthur Chance , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6f62db58-8220-0fe4-133b-410da2f58579@qeng-ho.org> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:10:12 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6f62db58-8220-0fe4-133b-410da2f58579@qeng-ho.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:10:17 -0000 On 25/10/2017 08:40, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 25/10/2017 07:14, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> On 25/10/2017 03:23, Manish Jain wrote: >>> (Note : some built-ins (e.g. 'test') do have their own man pages) >> >> That's because there's a stand-alone test(1) as well as a shell built-in. >> >>> Is it not possible to create separate man pages for the shell built-ins >>> too ? Or at least ensure that invoking the built-in with --help gets the >>> necessary information ? >> >> I'm sure creating separate man pages is possible: it's just a question >> of someone stepping up and doing the work. > > "man builtin" suggests there might be a few problems in organising the > new pages. Some builtins work in both shells, others in only one, some > have external equivalents, others don't. Some builtins work differently > in the two shells. > > For example, do we have one page for echo or three: echo(bin), echo(sh) > and echo(csh)? /bin/echo has a single flag, the sh builtin has two and > the csh builtin mimics one or the other depending on a csh variable setting. > > Yes, it just needs someone to do the work but making the new pages > coherent and clear would take more effort than it first seems. > Indeed. In that case, I'd suggest thinking about how to arrange the man pages from the point of view of the person writing a shell script -- what's the most effective way for them to find the information they need? In the case of eg. echo(1), I'd be happy to see the existing page for the stand-alone echo refactored to cover all of the different flavours of echo -- the behaviour is much the same in most use cases -- plus some discussion on how the variants differ. Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 25 08:42:17 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8954BE42F78 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:42:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta03.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A8D735E2 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:42:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from localhost ([74.134.208.22]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id 7HGKejmQqe8Ia7HGMeefwM; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:42:10 +0000 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:41:16 +0000 From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins References: X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfHdUe4QO+7uZBJ/bOfW5jgKWCygVl9xqc97zIGiXQ+iNDZbRnZfAgbsSzTRW0QlJ0yTyUMOO8FLsmM6udy4eHECCaLkIcx+jd/TUjABdLArOL3qPUhEa 36dtH7yIMLMkvKpP2SEm6e99fjSmd6vW3bViiZ4yitb1+LS4FSFmUpGAypiBfdUMdVCCS7D/6uCraA== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:42:17 -0000 from Manish Jain: > Despite all the respect I have for the genius of Richard Stallman, I > could never understand what use was his idea of info - man pages are > what everyone needs, and nothing else. > But I run into roughly the same weather with shell built-ins, most of > which do not have their own man page. 'man set' rather blandly throws up > the man page for the shell, and it takes an immense effort to glean the > relevant information. > Is it not possible to create separate man pages for the shell built-ins > too ? Or at least ensure that invoking the built-in with --help gets the > necessary information ? > (Note : some built-ins (e.g. 'test') do have their own man pages) I agree, info is a bummer, html would be better, but man works on the base system with no web browser, you don't even need lynx or elinks. There is a pinfo port. Konqueror in KDE had a good info viewer. But still, sticking with man makes more sense. If you run man on a shell builtin and get the man page for the shell, you can search through the man page on the desired command. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 25 08:56:14 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64515E43357 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:56:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ik@sjmulder.nl) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 359723A89 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:56:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ik@sjmulder.nl) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2D7225DD for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 04:56:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 25 Oct 2017 04:56:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sjmulder.nl; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=ijzRL/bggU1XZM9QrxgcnqIVvJ HJNl4uN6wQ7HtZjuE=; b=LAeBzLWUMQR5N6eIz0Oz1aEHuAii2gQF86iupGf9ov tXwR+5VR0nuI2YbflgaNOuivgcE8JGoGE4oZsK9ctA/yBNzja6pV1v8Tnk9hU78w dA4fswfxp0AUIPN4OBwqnqUhneu2sWM7wim4Qf4HNuUDbrJDcuZlqsW9XTBVQBOi E= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=ijzRL/ bggU1XZM9QrxgcnqIVvJHJNl4uN6wQ7HtZjuE=; b=kZKxaRJmz+9k4LGZVxhFLP dacSFkOLha6rxCST4igMxitpxHvRfwUKRMh7s3wycGTSeSzHMiImNm0Lm7tAK1CH Vln7m5nKKMCPdPOxbmgseZWComefHlJRsbOmNM3GTQDPOum8rsIB9bmJ3xlfeRpJ FJFW7hYctI8u3HtRrM8FVXlwkB84gm5WrOEs7qEL8pNsXpO2Uq2mQdJs3EGkIF/D xdA0zPtyVB7xt7IM1eDqTazA95csfTZVw1ydMAVtXe0JQbi+XKGk09JhvAnFdWe8 4mK2wFqJjCGIjOQhal6OvH/i3e/LuEF2bqq8X0dJFdO2Inpcp+niTvZe5keisxbQ == X-ME-Sender: Received: from [10.50.6.46] (unknown [87.213.224.178]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 03D737F967 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 04:56:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6f62db58-8220-0fe4-133b-410da2f58579@qeng-ho.org> From: "Sijmen J. Mulder" Message-ID: <57bd52d4-bf61-454f-1b11-d7f96aa1c049@sjmulder.nl> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 10:56:22 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-GB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:56:14 -0000 Hi, Whilst I do appreciate builtin(1)'s comprehensiveness I too find it hard to nagivate. Op 25-10-2017 om 10:10 schreef Matthew Seaman: > In the case of eg. echo(1), I'd be happy to see the existing page for > the stand-alone echo refactored to cover all of the different flavours > of echo -- the behaviour is much the same in most use cases -- plus some > discussion on how the variants differ. This seems like a good solution. But, how would shells in ports deal with this? A builtin(1)-like foosh(1), or foosh_echo(1), foosh_case(1), etc? Sijmen From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 25 09:08:46 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530D2E438F9 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 159C76333E for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.202.132.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7F38C14FD for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:08:44 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6f62db58-8220-0fe4-133b-410da2f58579@qeng-ho.org> <57bd52d4-bf61-454f-1b11-d7f96aa1c049@sjmulder.nl> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 10:08:44 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <57bd52d4-bf61-454f-1b11-d7f96aa1c049@sjmulder.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:08:46 -0000 On 25/10/2017 09:56, Sijmen J. Mulder wrote: > Whilst I do appreciate builtin(1)'s comprehensiveness I too find it hard > to nagivate. > > Op 25-10-2017 om 10:10 schreef Matthew Seaman: >> In the case of eg. echo(1), I'd be happy to see the existing page for >> the stand-alone echo refactored to cover all of the different flavours >> of echo -- the behaviour is much the same in most use cases -- plus some >> discussion on how the variants differ. > > This seems like a good solution. But, how would shells in ports deal > with this? A builtin(1)-like foosh(1), or foosh_echo(1), foosh_case(1), > etc? Outside projects will do their own thing. We can (as the FreeBSD project) provide our own man pages for a FreeBSD port where we think that what upstream provides is deficient, and we can submit those pages upstream as good citizens are supposed to, but again, this relies entirely on someone volunteering to step up and do the work. However, it's unlikely that we'd want to try and integrate or combine man pages from external projects with base system manpages in any significant way. That's far too complex and fragile to be worth the effort. /usr/share/man and /usr/local/man are different worlds. Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 25 09:23:49 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4D9E43DE1 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ftp51246-2575596@sh4-5.1blu.de) Received: from sh4-5.1blu.de (sh4-5.1blu.de [178.254.11.41]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64BC063C11 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ftp51246-2575596@sh4-5.1blu.de) Received: from ftp51246-2575596 by sh4-5.1blu.de with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e7HPF-0007v0-KV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 10:51:21 +0200 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 10:51:21 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: smbclient(1) works, but mount_smbfs(8) does not Message-ID: <20171025085121.GA27022@sh4-5.1blu.de> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r314251 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! Please send only plain text. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:23:49 -0000 Hello, At work I have a FreeBSD 12-CURRENT in a VirtualBox on top of Windows and I was used to use mount_smbfs(8) to mount the Windows onto my FreeBSD without any problem. From one day to the other it stopped working and gives Authentication error. I have not changed any credentials or the like. I'm happy to see, that smbclient(1) works still fine, using the same credentials: $ cat .smbpw username = apitzm password = SantaClXXXXXXXXXXXX domain = company $ smbclient //APITZM-LTOH/apitzm -A .smbpw -I 10.49.8.30 Domain=[company] OS=[Windows 7 Professional 7601 Service Pack 1] Server=[Windows 7 Professional 6.1] smb: \> es geht nicht mit: # mount_smbfs -I 10.49.8.30 -u guru -g wheel //apitzm@APITZM-LTOH/apitzm /win Password: mount_smbfs: unable to open connection: syserr = Authentication error I have no access to the servers behind my workstation. In the truss of mount_smbfs the failing looks like this: ... openat(AT_FDCWD,"/dev/nsmb",O_RDWR,00) = 3 (0x3) ioctl(3,SMBIOC_LOOKUP,0xffffdc38) ERR#80 'Authentication error' write(2,"mount_smbfs: ",13) = 13 (0xd) write(2,"unable to open connection",25) = 25 (0x19) I have no access to the servers behind my workstation. Any idea what could be the reason. Maybe I could compile a debug version of mount_smbfs to see what is in the struct of the ioctl(2) call... Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-176-38902045 | / \ - Respect for open standards | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII_Ribbon_Campaign From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 25 11:22:12 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4990E46E54 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 11:22:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ffmpeg@dgmm.net) Received: from outbound-queue-adx-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (outbound-queue-adx-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net [212.11.71.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9D268728 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 11:22:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ffmpeg@dgmm.net) Received: from outbound-edge-adx-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (outbound-edge-adx-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net [212.11.71.231]) by outbound-queue-adx-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3C421D7C for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 12:20:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from cpc89374-jarr11-2-0-cust348.16-2.cable.virginm.net (HELO amd.asgard.uk) (82.13.141.93) (smtp-auth username dave%pop3.dgmm.net, mechanism plain) by outbound-edge-adx-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (qpsmtpd/0.83) with ESMTPA; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 12:20:59 +0100 From: Dave To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 12:20:58 +0100 Message-ID: <2998073.ZJssjdD8cR@amd.asgard.uk> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.10 (FreeBSD/10.3-RELEASE-p20; KDE/4.14.30; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <15f52853ee8.2787.c09309b3b9b6c7ba483efefa0c51d672@rail.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Gradwell-MongoId: 59f0739b.12927-2bbf-2 X-Gradwell-Auth-Method: mailbox X-Gradwell-Auth-Credentials: dave@pop3.dgmm.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 11:22:13 -0000 On Wednesday 25 October 2017 08:03:03 Manish Jain wrote: > > On 10/25/17 13:23, Erwan DAVID wrote: > > That would mean doing a new section per shell eg (1bash) (1csh) (1zsh) > > each shell has its own builtins, Hicham can differ (compare set in bash > > and csh ) > > Perhaps a new, unique section of man pages (something like section 99) > implemented for sh only and which can be called by any shell with the > same syntax : 'man 99 set' Does man allow for multiple arguments and does the man page structure allow for book marks? eg man bash echo could display the bash man page at the echo command. 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God bless you and your house hold Miss.perscilla kate Email: perscillakate@yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 25 12:29:17 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF81E48BE5; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 12:29:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-190.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.190]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "www.dweimer.net", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DF7C6AB68; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 12:29:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from www.dweimer.net (ugs-3p.dweimer.local [10.9.5.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v9PCTCK8056559 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 25 Oct 2017 07:29:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=dweimer.net; s=2017.01.31; t=1508934553; bh=yFFdwLAe0Pvk/O22NdOrQtHk73/WP1OBQR0vYZoEZPg=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Reply-To:In-Reply-To:References; b=DG9PeJgN2LUX3TGIT1O/Ml5gvuy/edJPt1bV5TzyBpQgSHsuqreGYUOWXbch7I5n+ xTU40aVzUVfTm36oD1QNgpE66RDVeBP23r4rD9JyiyZcfTXhe2vcbDqUsTigttu+UP E3yc93M9KfnljLdRiL9UuVsV+u87S/bVvlmFoBagCUX7ADaoAPKJy4fvMEcJh8GVDm VQsNMEboWcQDHQaWB8Hb1tSBXOgeXqXv/+SgLCQzbvPu+7EBBIo3xo8Rtxc0fMnj8x 0QOpPcWMBSU1VmDspicswVKqSsbM9DMV/7fXRa4d7vyK1sAh6Pl/jchTLDa5Pw90wJ AVSEtNw/pCr0g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 07:29:12 -0500 From: "Dean E. Weimer" To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: smbclient(1) works, but mount_smbfs(8) does not Organization: dweimer.net Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net In-Reply-To: <20171025085121.GA27022@sh4-5.1blu.de> References: <20171025085121.GA27022@sh4-5.1blu.de> Message-ID: X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 12:29:17 -0000 On 2017-10-25 3:51 am, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hello, > > At work I have a FreeBSD 12-CURRENT in a VirtualBox on top of Windows > and I was used to use mount_smbfs(8) to mount the Windows onto my > FreeBSD without any problem. From one day to the other it stopped > working and gives Authentication error. I have not changed any > credentials or the like. > > I'm happy to see, that smbclient(1) works still fine, using the same > credentials: > > $ cat .smbpw > username = apitzm > password = SantaClXXXXXXXXXXXX > domain = company > $ smbclient //APITZM-LTOH/apitzm -A .smbpw -I 10.49.8.30 > Domain=[company] OS=[Windows 7 Professional 7601 Service Pack 1] > Server=[Windows 7 Professional 6.1] > smb: \> > > es geht nicht mit: > > # mount_smbfs -I 10.49.8.30 -u guru -g wheel > //apitzm@APITZM-LTOH/apitzm /win > Password: > mount_smbfs: unable to open connection: syserr = Authentication error > > I have no access to the servers behind my workstation. > In the truss of mount_smbfs the failing looks like this: > > ... > openat(AT_FDCWD,"/dev/nsmb",O_RDWR,00) = 3 (0x3) > ioctl(3,SMBIOC_LOOKUP,0xffffdc38) ERR#80 'Authentication > error' > write(2,"mount_smbfs: ",13) = 13 (0xd) > write(2,"unable to open connection",25) = 25 (0x19) > > I have no access to the servers behind my workstation. Any idea what > could be the reason. Maybe I could compile a debug version of > mount_smbfs to see what is in the struct of the ioctl(2) call... > > Thanks > > matthias Did NTLM version 1 get disabled on your Windows system? mount_smbfs doesn't support NTLM version 2, but smbclient does. -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 25 12:33:25 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E75E48FA4 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 12:33:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22e.google.com (mail-io0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3D066B0E5 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 12:33:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id i38so796324iod.2 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 05:33:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=7wvFNYxs43sdicPeuV3+aq6jDvWYqyrPozHGCt9rCwM=; b=QOyVNV+cYlSVr4SwSXGXDuNzyibO+wzDWQPELYNqxygClag2eK9ynxbny4/aBkP7Qv jwc+bYKU8mJjbh8mHtE+Hftw4loXIe0tlp0TY1fu9T2whVAE5H/tt/nqBjjerXt55R/0 Vo1iTvYx+GqDymK43XQuvo+HISC+QXoDX/a8sC/lJuYZWbofZ2aH9D+ZQGgbus6Ok2X6 awJ15HhdpISfT9E8MBwGu/HsAfK3yhwQ9td8tsziIAAGfSJ6ivn/xannaoxLz+VvEZPG gVKsUvU5ITyErKM19gWaO2QIhh9MzLF0S9wLXRILvPYV6v6EJbbuwXs0O3rZv0npa41W RZoQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=7wvFNYxs43sdicPeuV3+aq6jDvWYqyrPozHGCt9rCwM=; b=YUzNCORpZLjhiT3zQvMGWb6DAnoxqNfnUrzAkqP4xXV9QvV0FEPi+1Vp/fa2NXmcbx mwmqxV31Qvg5AH2Yf2mWN2x6ueVlzb6M2yBAixB8TbtjREtkar15ta8Ffs0Np1H17+ks XL2ntQf3+HCJylGdh0rKBDauMa/5/OgGZ59BHJjaAiGzbCLAtwhcFh6I0hmN22YPpLbJ yrlTCr0oxTz+84User6ei7IEeRc7u3A8DHO16Rztt9xku3s8NJrsO2Ku6BrUnpmzaWGr lNLfaI+qezs0G3hbpe2vEtPelNcYR6SjNKS0A+h5BH05xxDDpaNGVbe0INbCIfY3zaYu Z5XA== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaViXoOsll8WiyWJTIBl/3UZk5mUIwtYk1dwKthRlleZH791+KcI Acx3rQH6wKs2czEvQVmcMRQfc6bxDbyaM3bA1mo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+SWoAlW6zCIXmauz57kmIMavU+O9oYqmChRxgkHR5SeB0yL3/kp4HCmWaqAOkn3/SE9jQUddzMnJ0+DG4kamQY= X-Received: by 10.107.47.133 with SMTP id v5mr24028348iov.22.1508934804123; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 05:33:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.2.176.201 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 05:33:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20171025085121.GA27022@sh4-5.1blu.de> References: <20171025085121.GA27022@sh4-5.1blu.de> From: Adam Vande More Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 07:33:23 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: smbclient(1) works, but mount_smbfs(8) does not To: Matthias Apitz , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 12:33:25 -0000 On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > $ cat .smbpw > username = apitzm > password = SantaClXXXXXXXXXXXX > domain = company > $ smbclient //APITZM-LTOH/apitzm -A .smbpw -I 10.49.8.30 > Domain=[company] OS=[Windows 7 Professional 7601 Service Pack 1] > Server=[Windows 7 Professional 6.1] > smb: \> > > es geht nicht mit: > > # mount_smbfs -I 10.49.8.30 -u guru -g wheel //apitzm@APITZM-LTOH/apitzm > /win > Password: > mount_smbfs: unable to open connection: syserr = Authentication error > > I have no access to the servers behind my workstation. > In the truss of mount_smbfs the failing looks like this: > > ... > openat(AT_FDCWD,"/dev/nsmb",O_RDWR,00) = 3 (0x3) > ioctl(3,SMBIOC_LOOKUP,0xffffdc38) ERR#80 'Authentication > error' > write(2,"mount_smbfs: ",13) = 13 (0xd) > write(2,"unable to open connection",25) = 25 (0x19) > > I have no access to the servers behind my workstation. Any idea what > could be the reason. Maybe I could compile a debug version of > mount_smbfs to see what is in the struct of the ioctl(2) call... > Try a tcpdump of each of these. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 25 13:17:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F430E49CD7 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay10.qsc.de (mailrelay10.qsc.de [212.99.163.152]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 997106C431 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:17:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay10.qsc.de; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 15:16:49 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-193.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.193]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF20C3CBF9; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 15:16:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v9PDGldO002266; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 15:16:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 15:16:47 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Manish Jain Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins Message-Id: <20171025151647.b1a1d512.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay10.qsc.de with 0B134683423 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1430 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:17:05 -0000 On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 02:23:23 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: > But I run into roughly the same weather with shell built-ins, most of > which do not have their own man page. 'man set' rather blandly throws up > the man page for the shell, and it takes an immense effort to glean the > relevant information. > > Is it not possible to create separate man pages for the shell built-ins > too ? Or at least ensure that invoking the built-in with --help gets the > necessary information ? The key problem is that different shells might have a builtin with the same name, but different syntax or behaviour. That's why you typically use "man sh" or "man csh" and then search for the builtin within that man page. > (Note : some built-ins (e.g. 'test') do have their own man pages) Well, test is a binary, a separate program, not a builtin. ;-) % which test /bin/test % which [ /bin/[ Of course, [ and test are actually one and the same binary. Keep in mind some shells also offer a builtin replacement for an existing binary. A good example is echo where a binary exists, but the C Shell has its own internal echo, while BASH uses the binary one: % which echo echo: shell built-in command. $ which echo /bin/echo In such a case, what should "man echo" show? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 25 13:22:50 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3329E4A062 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:22:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay14.qsc.de (mailrelay14.qsc.de [212.99.163.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57E496CA8C for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:22:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay14.qsc.de; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 15:22:42 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-193.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.193]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 292383CC3F; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 15:22:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v9PDMeqa002306; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 15:22:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 15:22:40 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Manish Jain Cc: Erwan DAVID , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins Message-Id: <20171025152240.b83f20e5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <15f52853ee8.2787.c09309b3b9b6c7ba483efefa0c51d672@rail.eu.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay14.qsc.de with A800D743A21 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1484 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:22:51 -0000 On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:03:03 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: > > > On 10/25/17 13:23, Erwan DAVID wrote: > > That would mean doing a new section per shell eg (1bash) (1csh) (1zsh) > > each shell has its own builtins, Hicham can differ (compare set in bash > > and csh ) > > Perhaps a new, unique section of man pages (something like section 99) > implemented for sh only and which can be called by any shell with the > same syntax : 'man 99 set' Or like pkg's "sub-manpages", with a hyphen: % man echo-csh compared to % man test-bash And for "identical implementations", compound manuals just as if you'd use "man 3 malloc" or "man 3 calloc" to take you to the same manual page. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 25 13:49:42 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1A5E4ACE0 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:49:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raf@rafal.net) Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7605B6DF91 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:49:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raf@rafal.net) Received: from [192.168.40.37] (86-40-118-125-dynamic.agg2.bri.bbh-prp.eircom.net [86.40.118.125]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 26F57509BF for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:49:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Rafal Lukawiecki Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.0 \(3445.1.7\)) Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 14:49:26 +0100 References: <6f62db58-8220-0fe4-133b-410da2f58579@qeng-ho.org> <57bd52d4-bf61-454f-1b11-d7f96aa1c049@sjmulder.nl> To: "James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions" In-Reply-To: <57bd52d4-bf61-454f-1b11-d7f96aa1c049@sjmulder.nl> Message-Id: <3A716B0D-8291-4CB1-9DE5-370ABA4CF583@rafal.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.1.7) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:49:42 -0000 For what it is worth, I would have found this segregated access to man = for shell built-ins very useful in the last two months, as I have been = rapidly re-skilling from bash/Linux to sh/FreeBSD. I spent too much time = browsing the net while, ideally, most of it could have come from man. Anything that makes it easier to get up to speed with sh is going to = make FreeBSD more accessible, especially to those coming from bash, in = my opinion. However, it is also quite useful to have a single, long document on sh, = which is capable of covering the more general issues such as variable = scope and flow control. I wonder if there is a risk that a segregated = approach could remove that important benefit. -- Rafal Lukawiecki Data Scientist=20 Project Botticelli Ltd From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 25 13:59:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE998E4B0A5 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay11.qsc.de (mailrelay11.qsc.de [212.99.187.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2294C6E518 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:59:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay11.qsc.de; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 15:58:28 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-193.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.193]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C78913CBF9; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 15:58:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v9PDwO2C002628; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 15:58:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 15:58:24 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Rafal Lukawiecki Cc: "James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins Message-Id: <20171025155824.f009b7a9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <3A716B0D-8291-4CB1-9DE5-370ABA4CF583@rafal.net> References: <6f62db58-8220-0fe4-133b-410da2f58579@qeng-ho.org> <57bd52d4-bf61-454f-1b11-d7f96aa1c049@sjmulder.nl> <3A716B0D-8291-4CB1-9DE5-370ABA4CF583@rafal.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay11.qsc.de with 49C1B6A4AF5 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:1.448 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:59:05 -0000 On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 14:49:26 +0100, Rafal Lukawiecki wrote: > For what it is worth, I would have found this segregated access to man for shell built-ins very useful in the last two months, as I have been rapidly re-skilling from bash/Linux to sh/FreeBSD. I spent too much time browsing the net while, ideally, most of it could have come from man. > > Anything that makes it easier to get up to speed with sh is going > to make FreeBSD more accessible, especially to those coming from > bash, in my opinion. > > However, it is also quite useful to have a single, long document > on sh, which is capable of covering the more general issues such > as variable scope and flow control. I wonder if there is a risk > that a segregated approach could remove that important benefit. This probably could be solved by incorporating shell-specific sections and "SEE ALSO" into the manpages which already exist for external commands (e. g., "man test"), and adding new pages for builtins (one could be "man for" or "man while" where there is a difference in sh/bash and csh syntax and usage). The general coverage provided by "man sh", "man csh" or "man bash" should not be distributed among "little man pages", as this also makes searching for context problematic (simply because what you're searching for is in another manpage, not in the one you validly used as an entry point). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[71.178.8.115]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u14sm1997468qtc.84.2017.10.25.07.10.08 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 25 Oct 2017 07:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <15f52853ee8.2787.c09309b3b9b6c7ba483efefa0c51d672@rail.eu.org> <20171025152240.b83f20e5.freebsd@edvax.de> From: zep Message-ID: <590388f5-6c80-fe60-1370-a071ffef5649@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 10:10:05 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20171025152240.b83f20e5.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 14:10:11 -0000 On 10/25/2017 09:22 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:03:03 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: >> >> On 10/25/17 13:23, Erwan DAVID wrote: >>> That would mean doing a new section per shell eg (1bash) (1csh) (1zsh) >>> each shell has its own builtins, Hicham can differ (compare set in bash >>> and csh ) >> Perhaps a new, unique section of man pages (something like section 99) >> implemented for sh only and which can be called by any shell with the >> same syntax : 'man 99 set' > Or like pkg's "sub-manpages", with a hyphen: > > % man echo-csh > > compared to > > % man test-bash > > And for "identical implementations", compound manuals just as if > you'd use "man 3 malloc" or "man 3 calloc" to take you to the same > manual page. > you could also build a 'smarter' man in such a case - e.g. as a shell script wrapper kinda thing, it could do a which first, find out if the shell you're currently running it from has a builtin, if there's a binary, then chose the right one for how it's called and possibly include a caveat about other versions. not that I'm saying I'm ready to take on such a task, just offering some suggestions. -- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 25 14:27:27 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2BEBE4BC41 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 14:27:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay14.qsc.de (mailrelay14.qsc.de [212.99.163.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E33896F289 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 14:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay14.qsc.de; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 16:27:23 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-193.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.193]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0C5D3CBF9; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 16:27:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v9PERI7F002763; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 16:27:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 16:27:18 +0200 From: Polytropon To: zep Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins Message-Id: <20171025162718.ccb5752f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <590388f5-6c80-fe60-1370-a071ffef5649@gmail.com> References: <15f52853ee8.2787.c09309b3b9b6c7ba483efefa0c51d672@rail.eu.org> <20171025152240.b83f20e5.freebsd@edvax.de> <590388f5-6c80-fe60-1370-a071ffef5649@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay14.qsc.de with 0F05F743B4A X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.4501 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 14:27:27 -0000 On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 10:10:05 -0400, zep wrote: > On 10/25/2017 09:22 AM, Polytropon wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:03:03 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: > >> > >> On 10/25/17 13:23, Erwan DAVID wrote: > >>> That would mean doing a new section per shell eg (1bash) (1csh) (1zsh) > >>> each shell has its own builtins, Hicham can differ (compare set in bash > >>> and csh ) > >> Perhaps a new, unique section of man pages (something like section 99) > >> implemented for sh only and which can be called by any shell with the > >> same syntax : 'man 99 set' > > Or like pkg's "sub-manpages", with a hyphen: > > > > % man echo-csh > > > > compared to > > > > % man test-bash > > > > And for "identical implementations", compound manuals just as if > > you'd use "man 3 malloc" or "man 3 calloc" to take you to the same > > manual page. > > > > you could also build a 'smarter' man in such a case - e.g. as a shell > script wrapper kinda thing, it could do a which first, find out if the > shell you're currently running it from has a builtin, if there's a > binary, then chose the right one for how it's called and possibly > include a caveat about other versions. This is possible, but there is the following obstacle: A shell can invoke an external command or a builtin depending on execution context, i. e., if the shell is currently processing a shell script, the builtin will be used, but if it runs an interactive session, the external command will be called. I cannot remember what shell it was, but I encountered this strange behaviour once, many years ago: Something that worked at the command line didn't work the same way when used inside a shell script, even though the text was used 1:1. It was on some expensive UNIX nobody remembers anymore... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 25 16:36:11 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C97E4EFCF for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 16:36:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efrenba@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x235.google.com (mail-io0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E012A74A33 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 16:36:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efrenba@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x235.google.com with SMTP id p186so1628174ioe.12 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:36:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=c47d3PdrtPEngOwlziSDEwIM9FMzsm9e6x5hFgAbEeM=; b=M86hvpn7Bpnwd2JkkvkXxQDc2xgPD1oORPndAN9x9Y96Dx9J7vJ6MK8fmshWlKbgAv 2ORM2d0y1JKskEhpti01+gWXdUusKlrYU8cm1d4E3wx2xQ6133eS6FKyig+AjzQ+Nipm Ax9eXugRuuocbmgH3Khk9KDK3NcRoY1hybHu7F4jGDfv+ciiCdGRF9I1wzhTZXqK78JV SeBtuOl6aHWzd6QWv0Jcds9Oke1EjoAEz0ShliT9TW3fcafzq+yumadAFu9LbFIxnkoI NxEJ74AenF6ZZr+z3Fwg60O4EQ/aVUb1izD7dTCsn8/IOt/B1kyMJGRE1cR+fXHYYTGw 3Aqw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=c47d3PdrtPEngOwlziSDEwIM9FMzsm9e6x5hFgAbEeM=; b=YH1xWEPH0CYPOp1ou+OTAXr/SSemRBFJ3idqJOpevp+XC1Ux+gzR18w77HEZPwyZ+1 5p1Axd5f9HT6uIrE1/P8ncA+LmdkUYjFo3MPsy4AN3WLwFzXQ2onhT3Z8NTdVdFcVwsI 0buajW+JP6EC7ziGBatcpcizmJ86ADXZew7sf5mDVuIaLu5PTZUZdRNh8VxWjeCsXqaH JMdNKmi5ymUVv9vqfRdIP9y63aZDvZvsCC6h4eXeny+thpAxr9dmiehHJvKg9f349T00 Wj1wDxFFglfjr33QqC+c7yASfx90+ZZGcbWGKQjCMPvnfJOCzQgYzZi0ApmDyvG/jwEn LYQA== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaVZ5vWwWu64B2+Zm4JfofaQQ1gjKtaB/tJcdC1onPdxIxil7244 qQd+O7/vcLSVw3xCsUVaKqRSB0jmpHFksIGggPWNRg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+SEziBWT5jdPqX8eEp0UUUl1FLDOisJq7l3s3G56ItOJDBspVgwa+lCcSY7a7PxuuT6LYtiSXxlIX59usDRgxE= X-Received: by 10.107.169.34 with SMTP id s34mr18275419ioe.103.1508949369989; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:36:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.2.84.8 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:36:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20171024230440.N32145@sola.nimnet.asn.au> From: Efren Bravo Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 12:36:09 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Routing problem To: =?UTF-8?Q?Trond_Endrest=C3=B8l?= Cc: FreeBSD questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 16:36:11 -0000 Problem solved! I didn't realize about the map rule on my ipnat.rules from the old fw box. Thank again for your support. 2017-10-25 4:07 GMT-04:00 Trond Endrest=C3=B8l < Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no>: > On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 11:54-0400, Efren Bravo wrote: > > > @Ian Smith: gateway_enable=3D"YES" I wrote ok, was my mistake when I co= py > it > > into the email and sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=3D1. thanks > > > > @Trond Endrestol > > > > I didn't know about all those NATs (NAT44, NAT444, NAT64, etc), when I > > installed a fw box 10 years ago they didn't exist, I think, because I > > followed the same config and it worked. Now, the question is, how to ma= ke > > it work? > > NAT(44) has been around for more than 20 years, and is partially > responsible for delaying the deployment of IPv6. > > Read Section 29.5 on ipf (ipfilter) in the Handbook: > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/ > handbook/firewalls-ipf.html > > Subsection 29.5.4 says how to configure NAT(44). > > -- > Trond. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --=20 ---------------- Efren Bravo From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 25 17:25:54 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F3CE4FFDF for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 17:25:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [198.71.6.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF2376AC8 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 17:25:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from sas1.nber.org (sas1.nber.org [198.71.6.89]) by mail2.nber.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v9PHIM8d040099 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:18:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:18:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg To: Polytropon cc: Manish Jain , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins In-Reply-To: <20171025151647.b1a1d512.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20171025151647.b1a1d512.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (LRH 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-KLMS-Rule-ID: 1 X-KLMS-Message-Action: clean X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Status: not scanned, disabled by settings X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Interceptor-Info: not scanned X-KLMS-AntiPhishing: Clean, 2017/10/24 14:12:17 X-KLMS-AntiVirus: Kaspersky Security 8.0 for Linux Mail Server, version 8.0.1.721, bases: 2017/10/25 08:02:00 #11146475 X-KLMS-AntiVirus-Status: Clean, skipped X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 17:25:54 -0000 On Wed, 25 Oct 2017, Polytropon wrote: > > % which echo > echo: shell built-in command. > > $ which echo > /bin/echo > > In such a case, what should "man echo" show? > A person of good will authoring the documentation would describe the difference. The problem with putting all the documentation for several score of shell commands in a single page is not for commands such as "echo" which are easy to search for on the builtins man page, but commands such as "if" which are quite a chore to search for. I don't advocate a change in policy, but I wouldn't ridicule proponents in favor of a change. In any case, it is disengenuous to suggest to someone that they write the pages, given that there is no chance that such pages would be included in the distribution. daniel feenberg From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 25 19:49:12 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444E9E52CB4 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 19:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remy@luckyhands.nl) Received: from upuaut.luckyhands.nl (upuaut.luckyhands.nl [37.97.167.254]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D72D37FFFF for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 19:49:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remy@luckyhands.nl) Received: from [192.168.1.188] (D97AAB6A.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl [217.122.171.106]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by upuaut.luckyhands.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 58F4212001D for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 21:41:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Remy Zandwijk Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_EE2A6D68-FD5E-4435-80E4-EC51CD416EBB"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.0 \(3445.1.7\)) Subject: FreeBSD Handbook epub formatted incorrectly? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 21:41:17 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.1.7) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 19:49:12 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_EE2A6D68-FD5E-4435-80E4-EC51CD416EBB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Guru's, I downloaded the epub version of the FreeBSD Handbook to my iPad mini, = in order to read it while travelling. However, when opening the epub in = iBooks on the iPad, I get the error message: Cannot Open "FreeBSD = Handbook". It is formatted incorrectly, or is not a format that iBooks = can open. In iBooks on macOS however, the epub opens just fine. Any thoughts on where to look to fix it? Of course, I could just take = the PDF version of the handbook, but that lacks resizing the font = conveniently. 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From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:45:34 -0700 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20DD7F74-1FD6-4F11-A589-7EE3AC51BB42@mail.sermon-archive.info> References: To: Remy Zandwijk X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at mail X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 20:51:16 -0000 When I download the epub version, none of the images are there. That = pretty much makes it worthless as much of the info is in the images. The PDF version works just fine. -- Doug > On 25 October 2017, at 12:41, Remy Zandwijk = wrote: >=20 > Dear Guru's, >=20 > I downloaded the epub version of the FreeBSD Handbook to my iPad mini, = in order to read it while travelling. However, when opening the epub in = iBooks on the iPad, I get the error message: Cannot Open "FreeBSD = Handbook". It is formatted incorrectly, or is not a format that iBooks = can open. In iBooks on macOS however, the epub opens just fine. >=20 > Any thoughts on where to look to fix it? Of course, I could just take = the PDF version of the handbook, but that lacks resizing the font = conveniently. >=20 > Cheers, > Remy >=20 >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 25 21:09:47 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857A0E544EE for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 21:09:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=146420bbf1=vogelke@pobox.com) Received: from WPAFB-MAIL5.AFNOC.Af.MIL (wpafb-mail5.afnoc.af.mil [131.27.1.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "WPAFB-MAIL5.afnoc.af.mil", Issuer "DOD ID SW CA-38" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18D6D82332 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 21:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=146420bbf1=vogelke@pobox.com) Received: from us.af.mil (unknown [131.9.254.133]) by WPAFB-MAIL5.AFNOC.Af.MIL with smtp (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA) id 6939_6c68_dfa8636f_1daf_4dcc_a6f1_ca2d51ac6c51; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 21:09:30 +0000 Received: from ([131.9.40.227]) by 52vejx-mr-002.us.af.mil with SMTP id 5X21FN1.322309225; Wed, 25 Oct 2017 16:09:24 -0500 Received: (qmail 22952 invoked by uid 100); 25 Oct 2017 21:09:21 -0000 From: "Karl Vogel" Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 17:09:21 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins Message-ID: <20171025210920.GA22834@bsd118.wpafb.af.mil> Reply-To: vogelke@pobox.com References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.0 (2016-04-01) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 21:09:47 -0000 On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 07:14:28AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > I'm sure creating separate man pages is possible: it's just a question > of someone stepping up and doing the work. Here's a "solution" from the baling-twine-and-ductape school of coding. I ran "compgen -b" under bash and got a list of builtins: . : [ alias [...] unalias unset wait A little vi: help . > dot.1 help : > :.1 help [ > [.1 help alias > alias.1 help unalias > unalias.1 help unset > unset.1 help wait > wait.1 Run "strings" on /path/to/man and find the default MANSECT. 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 07:11:14 -0000 El día Wednesday, October 25, 2017 a las 07:33:23AM -0500, Adam Vande More escribió: > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > $ cat .smbpw > > username = apitzm > > password = SantaClXXXXXXXXXXXX > > domain = company > > $ smbclient //APITZM-LTOH/apitzm -A .smbpw -I 10.49.8.30 > > Domain=[company] OS=[Windows 7 Professional 7601 Service Pack 1] > > Server=[Windows 7 Professional 6.1] > > smb: \> > > > > # mount_smbfs -I 10.49.8.30 -u guru -g wheel //apitzm@APITZM-LTOH/apitzm > > /win > > Password: > > mount_smbfs: unable to open connection: syserr = Authentication error > > > > ... > > Try a tcpdump of each of these. > The tcpdump's are here: http://www.unixarea.de/smbclient-tcpdump.txt http://www.unixarea.de/mount_smbfs-tcpdump.txt Interestingly, apart of the ARP request the mount_smbfs(8) only causes traffic with the local Windows system 10.49.8.30, the VM is 10.0.2.15, i.e. no other server resources are involved; I was assuming that somewhere in the network servers a change is causing this... Thanks for anay ideas. matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-176-38902045 | / \ - Respect for open standards | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII_Ribbon_Campaign From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 26 07:25:39 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA69E404BD for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 07:25:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from solene@perso.pw) Received: from perso.pw (perso.pw [163.172.223.238]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "perso.pw", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51CFE6F693 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 07:25:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from solene@perso.pw) Received: from perso.pw (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by perso.pw (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 5b868cf0 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 09:18:55 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=perso.pw; h=mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:date:from:to:subject :message-id; s=1337; bh=qWa0qOVHPCef6m67LNdudiPioZg=; b=EUlMU1f7 ocwh2R8A7PauTJnjY2vU/6m7QNZjZZ+wjn+L7tzSZKu1hdnJpuK+2N1/0g28a/Fx pwyp+WRXflnc+ScGfFp/03epPiFpYtgcaPV3KPf09Ha2bDZjSn8aqtwjbP3Ti+A4 JjESnkFDxVPWf40Rar9W923ufrPk00UOb1k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=perso.pw; h=mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:date:from:to:subject :message-id; q=dns; s=1337; b=RQ3P5l+ZC7VxstdmcirbZqAdL3hyhYtGGQ 8VblVPmmg5oJGXtWHnKSu6eNaCtO/qRvi2Lkl3PSkuU4afVTx8z40vso8o+X9TsR 1aHsf51Vx9Rgbu3bFNWSZgspABAQpkSmwDwkDasoh2mVb8CvXrGivLC/CGVt9xGu Fq1wwFjIs= Received: from tesseract.perso.pw (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by perso.pw (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 24436e9b for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 09:18:55 +0200 (CEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 09:18:55 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Sol=C3=A8ne_Rapenne?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD router with LTE/4G support Message-ID: <5f7d6d58f78a7cadd7778a3855d97a49@perso.pw> X-Sender: solene@perso.pw User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 07:25:40 -0000 Hello, I'm looking for a freebsd router with LTE/4G support (embedded or as a module/extension). It will support a very low traffic so it doesn't need to be powerful, but I would like to install a bare FreeBSD on it, I don't want PfSense or OpnSense. I only know about PC Engines's devices but they don't natively support 4G, maybe an APU2 with a well supported 4G usb card could do the trick ? I need it to keep access to a critical remote site with a VPN, using a wireless backup (4G signal is _really_ strong there). I would appreciate if some people could recommend me hardware they know to work / the use. 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Wemeo GmbH | Industriestr. 20 | 8117 F=C3=A4llanden From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 26 12:42:33 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D9EE48D29 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 12:42:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fluca1978@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x232.google.com (mail-io0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A32E87CEFC for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 12:42:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fluca1978@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x232.google.com with SMTP id e89so5012700ioi.11 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 05:42:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=FDbPv477tV91Wf0s5wfxJl0Td3/2uO9Q4P9eMQOsdkw=; b=gUzfQw6oZA/dULMUIPG34uGS6Ke9p6HKYllrSnDpUdSEezAxoWbYwKUP0T3mcOZCl8 OE0nf9vDLpFmtd3MIyTAag2fsckBoxz2lBYKx1Bv9NxJXG0JapVHhLyY3/k4Eddg+kgQ 2dFPuHwRR+Cwyms/bQrXUAm6nMSE4/WorE2hGjvZYWejqhCr2GaXbqsSUbhp+JBa5mNj RaIqdpcSQGN3KbKS9w1MlRW4CYwkGvP6YpqCRfi7gk9Qpk5pUeXKRz7gt6dLBhk3jHGD mITHap5/wxd/soYpwWyPmrODAnyveJvd1lD+9vpP/90mm5VgKMYfoKwg+Ymk5sCYLoxZ hrwQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=FDbPv477tV91Wf0s5wfxJl0Td3/2uO9Q4P9eMQOsdkw=; b=Y8E25wZAndNksaJTTSWO5v9SNt2pnqIVlvlZDNTfSXubXojd5iarQagAMb8fhhRgcw saWz1wcvx7zae1IuYpX4YqGMizrGDIP7l6u0oyTDcRK1GdQvJLpqJIjueVYekFwqn9gu ESaB1eoSHU2NOaoMKq/z7nkGmcpu6SBgxq2i5yDvcmmow3JfumaNHn0XL3Rx4Ea8qWdE Pxyi2ssH6kdM+FvOYAugz836EPe6DmcDhzCDRDTPDB0Pi8TB5XX40N7RKF0bOSJYbCU1 mlL5IuDCf4TgiY6JCHO7yA9dAxeO3UMW/bm2CCXWEfRSdpOwAD7EfOP631lgG6P0ghw0 Kg6w== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaWrEBsWBlJU0S205WOudYO2O7L9TAlLSqeHWVJvgHWou+psZeO1 xbfkaYug6jGmlGWOuwHy4sCb2M9LOUm3DG0ancu0HA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+SQ+7GpNDqn0pkmexSP5DUp7uYM6ouVB8P6XWFXXhYEark5N1sDfFjVOsrw6JbXD7X81cHhyjtNn4tx7ggnp78= X-Received: by 10.107.131.85 with SMTP id f82mr28835605iod.215.1509021752524; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 05:42:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.164.93 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 05:41:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Luca Ferrari Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:41:51 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: label disappearing at reboot To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 12:42:34 -0000 Hi all, on a testing virtual machine I have a virtual disk labeled via glabel disappearing at each reboot (11-RELEASE). When the system boots it is turned into single user mode because it cannot mount DATA4 as it has disappeared. In particular on the console it is printed: mount: /dev/label/DATA4: No such file or directory And effectively the lanel has disappeared. I try to recreate the whole partition and label from scratch as follows, and effectively I'm able to mount the filesystem after that, but every time the machine is rebooted the disk label disappear. What am I missing? root@olivia:~ # glabel list ada4 Geom name: ada4 Providers: 1. Name: diskid/DISK-VB97f8d8f5-8f70a2a4 Mediasize: 2147483648 (2.0G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 secoffset: 0 offset: 0 seclength: 4194304 length: 2147483648 index: 0 Consumers: 1. Name: ada4 Mediasize: 2147483648 (2.0G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 root@olivia:~ # gpart create -s GPT ada4 ada4 created root@olivia:~ # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs ada4 ada4p1 added root@olivia:~ # glabel create DATA4 ada4p1 root@olivia:~ # newfs label/DATA4 label/DATA4: 2048.0MB (4194224 sectors) block size 32768, fragment size 4096 using 4 cylinder groups of 512.00MB, 16384 blks, 65536 inodes. super-block backups (for fsck_ffs -b #) at: 192, 1048768, 2097344, 3145920 root@olivia:~ # echo "/dev/label/DATA4 /mnt/data4 ufs rw 0 0" >> /etc/fstab root@olivia:~ # mount -a From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 26 13:14:21 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C92E49466 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 13:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amy.chadwell@targetedleadboosters.com) Received: from mail-pg0-x242.google.com (mail-pg0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c05::242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0C107DA84 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 13:14:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amy.chadwell@targetedleadboosters.com) Received: by mail-pg0-x242.google.com with SMTP id 15so2643210pgc.12 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 06:14:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=targetedleadboosters-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=return-receipt-to:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:thread-index:content-language :disposition-notification-to; bh=BJ3NuWhTZLKsp8gCrGECZK+xLekSVGs1rMyHOJ9xFzc=; b=yoisK4jw+8058EMwQavJxufab3dh7pLRH1f5sSK53vH5D43eTmtRAiv2kq8BUfLif9 3bUtW6YYS7H9kcn9yVnDvj4PI9nEbg9PgD5+PD5uWHYDC1dpdFld9btnQQfbYy/AMC42 spgS/wjzxLcVS6OJ4Okr3C/VnQQqUIi/veb1hPhYC29xiGfQFawxmqVtcViyd5BkwqHP h67h/QhwrVZGPNWL6o/3+Uw1LdWAoUTu/FyGXhGpcqjpGxQUvp9o/1cdC44aBAe4jzPI woo/U0eMIAwUQcPnPcWF6IXAN3Oh9LbCWkLYISaQMwOiefskFR0SJJR4D/mPzVJI1I69 oj2g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:return-receipt-to:from:to:references:in-reply-to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:thread-index:content-language :disposition-notification-to; bh=BJ3NuWhTZLKsp8gCrGECZK+xLekSVGs1rMyHOJ9xFzc=; b=HllcwMpQydL0rrfECCz7x0B55WDgNrIwKjwr6AEP217H7CGS5/K5LaDcfSb0jMNWtV nOmsxKIXsc0N3iHnktevrAfYCCFIRZBCOWcPnF2FSCC/aXXegGeqkpjzfetdbNIK8Zyd PAykg/LLI65bAuwpDpgni0WeIwRAO7rroaKCsMMlMwT4XaCVPtkt2ilpRUSVgMjnzxlJ 5cGqrorde3FPIY2gIw8kqBga3TxOdnK/+A+FHrAOkvhKUThlcB1Hevh3BNs09IccNzak CDeTd30hik32IP9h3L+jg/oF0SKREkAtABNSdIZ/fd/RG+CAr0fAXrbHGxrckbgfHrC1 Jomw== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaU/jqIh7EKIG1nCJbqOye1iwSpE0moJQ+ah2OdcGIHENY+86zrv N2t7cy7uMvO66jL8Pj21zqo+BFTf X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+TYt/lTfK8zAsfRKG9QRHl5Fts0fZ0a3U0YpYbUgnVEp9aJQbyKsNc/zfV199dKQjiBIwG+cw== X-Received: by 10.99.97.7 with SMTP id v7mr4917285pgb.152.1509023659965; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 06:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adminPC ([103.210.134.198]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z127sm9803315pfb.63.2017.10.26.06.14.18 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 26 Oct 2017 06:14:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "Amy Chadwell" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Plastimagen Mexico 2017 Attendees List? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 26 15:10:58 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07676E4BD8A for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 15:10:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher.maness@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x22b.google.com (mail-qk0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B75E78144E for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 15:10:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher.maness@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qk0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id o187so4669331qke.7 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 08:10:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Bgp1l2qF61AZwGpmdv2eyAX9gb4BjNn4AnZ6jnHjgQg=; b=uj/Ly11wgJ2cnssEqiORJy3+epK0NHbZB9LAHqovKmAcgrxO+MM9D5op5U+x5Imf0s 5HNaZAAIAu75hD0PIRS2UM1SmSpwNeQKrcikTdQBjeAJDVolDwbInr7bpO08r/kdss9K DiOL/jki9F/NTzyAnY0n/dhYE9deEEMS1j9aMe0RzTNDDJSAMgDXb/VhX+Ug2WKCJhjh xXoRUKI7Bv0jziE1jfqxAKKP7xQfsb5NX4q0sTl4eBxon8PZWl1Bh4IBYwMv4wbbvKCI mVl5vZdn1K6O1aIobS/wGbZ1ReIeyavelGTIWR2vpfABSHv3J4YsktlbPW2ySsdNkMOJ 5IJA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Bgp1l2qF61AZwGpmdv2eyAX9gb4BjNn4AnZ6jnHjgQg=; b=r8v/G6fBDmLj37r6jN6A5x3lQANr7fDwzEudnBzhTbJmH56ehJFIePogSWzCGr8E4G mmgkbYf1EesQWOi2G37Kd7pPOSaDXwrGTg/vurVHd0PTCnh81Ue0VaKYJWXrP0iO1o7n eA51lRPRX7Rn35qtFPcZJJEyzPem4qzKu3YM31Va7YnGyYHMUWKBpIVo8S4Tgtr8bKyu 6B0dIoqzaXxORGEPs5smuDyiVGoLOlj02XvqwsFXHATLSORtHsMgJeTavIFc0jlRrafC JtTq5z06N9q4fFtlW2R52TbROq34U7raqLWGdGyd+lDqK2TyAFk9hD0RWUjUoXEZzn1F 5XTA== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaWPjNDG/fMzV0qsJkG/bEp7Frai2/N0TwHuSTBkopUbCPUFR4GF pqF3TXoDoDX4GNzeD0CGKWDs4ijfqf0F2G5W5uI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+RpVuEwmLGz3B8pshlX46uWRFD+iNpeTDuH/44XnavXJmTYbCFMhde/cgYtUwDb3GG/zsksi1RClT4ya77PGrc= X-Received: by 10.55.10.18 with SMTP id 18mr8126140qkk.184.1509030656479; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 08:10:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.237.58.73 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 08:10:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Maness Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 08:10:56 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Strange DNS behavior To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 15:10:58 -0000 I have been running my own DNS for years with glue records and the whole nine yards. 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Thanks, Chris Maness From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 26 15:55:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9C7E4CF02 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 15:55:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from filter01.peak.org (filter01.peak.org [207.55.16.92]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.peak.org", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92F8D82F4F for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 15:55:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org ([207.55.16.112]) by filter01.peak.org ({e1c81c21-e4c4-4528-aa90-7a27869c545a}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTPS id 20171026155135459_0000 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 08:51:35 -0700 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 360484CC1E for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 08:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6284CC46 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 08:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zmail-mta02.peak.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id CnNOrHI21qZq for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 08:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailproxy-lb-06.peak.org (mailproxy-lb-06.peak.org [207.55.17.96]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B29154CC1E for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 08:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carlj by elm.localnet with local (Exim 4.89 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1e7kRM-000LxZ-0A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 08:51:28 -0700 From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: label disappearing at reboot References: X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 08:51:27 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Luca Ferrari's message of "Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:41:51 +0200") Message-ID: <86vaj1oqkg.fsf@elm.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MAG-OUTBOUND: peakinternet.redcondor.net@207.55.16/22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 15:55:16 -0000 Luca Ferrari writes: You have some problems as I note inline below. > Hi all, > on a testing virtual machine I have a virtual disk labeled via glabel > disappearing at each reboot (11-RELEASE). > > When the system boots it is turned into single user mode because it > cannot mount DATA4 as it has disappeared. > In particular on the console it is printed: > > mount: /dev/label/DATA4: No such file or directory > > And effectively the lanel has disappeared. I try to recreate the whole > partition and label from scratch as follows, and effectively I'm able > to mount the filesystem after that, but every time the machine is > rebooted the disk label disappear. What am I missing? > > root@olivia:~ # glabel list ada4 > Geom name: ada4 > Providers: > 1. Name: diskid/DISK-VB97f8d8f5-8f70a2a4 > Mediasize: 2147483648 (2.0G) > Sectorsize: 512 > Mode: r0w0e0 > secoffset: 0 > offset: 0 > seclength: 4194304 > length: 2147483648 > index: 0 > Consumers: > 1. Name: ada4 > Mediasize: 2147483648 (2.0G) > Sectorsize: 512 > Mode: r0w0e0 > > > root@olivia:~ # gpart create -s GPT ada4 > ada4 created > root@olivia:~ # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs ada4 > ada4p1 added > > root@olivia:~ # glabel create DATA4 ada4p1 This creates a temporary label only according to the man page, so you need to use 'glabel label' to create a permanent label. > root@olivia:~ # newfs label/DATA4 > label/DATA4: 2048.0MB (4194224 sectors) block size 32768, fragment size 4096 > using 4 cylinder groups of 512.00MB, 16384 blks, 65536 inodes. > super-block backups (for fsck_ffs -b #) at: > 192, 1048768, 2097344, 3145920 > root@olivia:~ # echo "/dev/label/DATA4 /mnt/data4 ufs rw 0 0" >> /etc/fstab > root@olivia:~ # mount -a You can also use UFS labels without using glabel at all. In that case use 'newfs -L DATA4 ada4p1', and then use /dev/ufs/DATA4 in fstab. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 26 16:02:47 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6310E4D2B8 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 16:02:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FC798343A for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 16:02:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id v9QG2H4H050556; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 03:02:18 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 03:02:17 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Polytropon cc: Manish Jain , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20171027021115.A40402@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 16:02:48 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 699, Issue 4, Message: 3 On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 15:16:47 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 02:23:23 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: > > But I run into roughly the same weather with shell built-ins, most of > > which do not have their own man page. 'man set' rather blandly throws up > > the man page for the shell, and it takes an immense effort to glean the > > relevant information. Trouble is, it all depends on what shell you're using - at a given time. > > Is it not possible to create separate man pages for the shell built-ins > > too ? Or at least ensure that invoking the built-in with --help gets the > > necessary information ? builtin(1) has always worked for me. But then, I only use sh(1) for scripting and csh(1) interactively, and they're the only two it covers. > The key problem is that different shells might have a builtin > with the same name, but different syntax or behaviour. That's > why you typically use "man sh" or "man csh" and then search > for the builtin within that man page. Yes, after consulting builtin(1) perhaps .. > > (Note : some built-ins (e.g. 'test') do have their own man pages) > > Well, test is a binary, a separate program, not a builtin. ;-) > > % which test > /bin/test > > % which [ > /bin/[ % which test /bin/test % sh $ which test /bin/test These results are correct for test, but it _is_ builtin to sh(1): [ A built-in equivalent of test(1). test A built-in equivalent of test(1). Fortunately - or it'd be much slower with, um, testing. So which isn't aware of the sh(1) builtin (since sh(1) has no 'which' builtin, so uses which(1)) .. whereas csh(1) has builtin which but no 'test' (as such, though all test's, um, tests can be done in csh). Easily confusing, eh? Command External csh(1) sh(1) echo Yes Yes Yes test Yes No Yes > Of course, [ and test are actually one and the same binary. And the builtin test in sh(1) is correctly covered by test(1). > Keep in mind some shells also offer a builtin replacement for > an existing binary. A good example is echo where a binary exists, > but the C Shell has its own internal echo, while BASH uses the > binary one: > > % which echo > echo: shell built-in command. > > $ which echo > /bin/echo Again, despite that, echo _is_ builtin to sh(1) - and has more options. > In such a case, what should "man echo" show? Among other things, see builtin(1)" .. oh, it already does. Perhaps sh(1) could use a smarter 'which' that exposes its own builtins such as these two more readily - but who dares mess with sh(1) ? :) cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 26 16:51:22 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5EDBE4DFE2 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 16:51:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A5BBEE8 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 16:51:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v9QGpBLW002870 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 26 Oct 2017 18:51:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v9QGpB2D002867; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 18:51:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 18:51:11 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: Chris Maness cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Strange DNS behavior In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (BSF 202 2017-01-01) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.fig.ol.no X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 16:51:22 -0000 On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 08:10-0700, Chris Maness wrote: > I have been running my own DNS for years with glue records and the whole > nine yards. A couple of days ago (without warning) my DNS server stopped > resolving requests external to my local network. If I portscan my server > from outside my local network, I see that TCP port 53 is open. I can use > dig to resolve any host on that server as long as it is local, but if I try > to to use dig from a remote host. It just times out. I thought I might > have been hacked or something, but it does not appear that the named.conf > file has been changed since 2015 (according to the stamp). > > Any suggestions as to what could be the issue? Here are some very basic suggestions. As you probably know, DNS uses UDP and switches to TCP if it receives a truncated response or is told to do TCP right from the beginning. Make sure your ISP hasn't blocked UDP and TCP port 53 in your direction. Check your own packet filter/firewall just to be safe. You can restart your DNS server process, you'll lose whatever's in the cache, but that shouldn't matter too much. -- Trond. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 26 17:01:54 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F6CE4E51C for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:01:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta01.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA2DD1652 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:01:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.0.11] ([76.183.153.52]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id 7lXJeXHhzfblG7lXMe3gDS; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:01:45 +0000 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 12:01:41 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: Adam Vande More cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Strange periodic problem Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <99E0408A95C01319659D7EFF@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <4E78133D6588A3580F02D8D1@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfIw11OMZ9M3CTiPveJ+lJSgg7MulCBBe4vqjHn3JI3wN+Gl6J6AWYw2XO51toPZrIo0IZHyBqUWeQcOdoiqMNsWl5aUVNhVMoutjtd+4gCo04620TrJ0 AZ2jPcgrR2J1xsrccCNwCVStQqMon0dIbDj1PiQwzgMCe62GJAkITB5U69LnGoNCXrrcFhJty0VCq2Xva5ivSB7wzVxLQvRlmApcZ2mC5YPVSz2u/MZChTq4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:01:54 -0000 --On October 24, 2017 at 8:18:35 AM -0500 Adam Vande More wrote: > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:10 AM, Paul Schmehl > wrote: > >> No. But that was a really good question, because now that I look at it >> *none* of the periodic scripts are running. Strange. >> > ># /etc/rc.d/cron restart ># /etc/rc.d/cron status > > Ensure it is running. Most likely it would log something to > /var/log/messages about the attempt. > > Another option is to start cron in the foreground and examine it's output. Cron is running. I added -x sch to see what it would log. After further analysis, the jobs are running fine. (For example, the db backup that started this thread is running find, backing up every day.) I'm not getting the email. I used to get emails daily with the periodic jobs, but those are no longer coming. I didn't notice they had stopped, because I get so much email it's easy to miss (and most of it is inconsequential anyway. Hundreds of breakin attempts to ssh, and that sort of thing. Still investigating. There's nothing of any consequence in /var/log/messages, and /var/log/cron apparently doesn't log periodic jobs. I'm hoping setting the debug flag will reveal more information. Paul Schmehl, Retired As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 26 17:06:25 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B85E4E7E0 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:06:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta03.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 739391A1B for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:06:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.0.11] ([76.183.153.52]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id 7lbjeMBc0e8Ia7lbmeq9fX; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:06:18 +0000 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 12:06:14 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: Adam Vande More cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Strange periodic problem Message-ID: <6E69E8CF4BDD775CF7AD81EF@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> In-Reply-To: References: <99E0408A95C01319659D7EFF@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <4E78133D6588A3580F02D8D1@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfKLxfinAuks134iL7XcxUkOmc1XYfKtfjVZjAuP1qLkVqxOnN5R45uZPaWVfSV4in3f4R0WGgdgRinA0dYzumxAnSl9lw0WZZcJT4VXmqLybEj/JduSV 5ziRLiwrvbt1YPXbykhYIM2aN4o5nP3HWyKJR/qIXOZYEQKK/xctLHddZkoqa2ZXQdIE78QIL9OpA8b0ntb3+PvTzSA1//F9gIflZ2CnvHaa3/haKQWseJ9M X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:06:25 -0000 --On October 24, 2017 at 8:18:35 AM -0500 Adam Vande More wrote: > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:10 AM, Paul Schmehl > wrote: > >> No. But that was a really good question, because now that I look at it >> *none* of the periodic scripts are running. Strange. >> > ># /etc/rc.d/cron restart ># /etc/rc.d/cron status > > Ensure it is running. Most likely it would log something to > /var/log/messages about the attempt. > > Another option is to start cron in the foreground and examine it's output. I take that back. After going through the cron log one line at a time, I found this: Oct 26 03:01:00 server1 /usr/sbin/cron[89536]: (root) CMD (periodic daily) I was expecting to see the names of the individual scripts. So, periodic jobs are being logged, and cron is running fine. It's just not sending email any more. Paul Schmehl, Retired As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 26 17:44:04 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DA4E4F3A1 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from smtpd.telissant.net (smtpd.telissant.net [104.225.1.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 33A052EFE for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:44:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from cortina.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtpd.telissant.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36CB113D2A for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 13:33:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at telissant.net Received: from smtpd.telissant.net ([127.0.0.1]) by cortina.3dresearch.com (cortina.3dresearch.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ajnv9f3Isi9M for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 13:33:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elettra.3dresearch.com (unknown [71.112.240.123]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: elettra) by smtpd.telissant.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 28D721139B6 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 13:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elettra.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elettra.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0899A22E21D for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 13:33:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 13:33:02 -0400 From: Janos Dohanics To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Routing problem Message-Id: <20171026133302.0c1a94d725477b2185384413@3dresearch.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.6.0 (GTK+ 2.24.31; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:44:04 -0000 On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:19:04 -0400 Efren Bravo wrote: > [...] > > # LAN > ifconfig_em0="inet 10.170.0.1 netmask 25.255.255.128" ^^ Is that a typo in your message only? -- Janos Dohanics From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 26 19:22:29 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E417E515A9 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:22:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x22c.google.com (mail-vk0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDAB1661DC for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:22:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id k195so2814635vke.10 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 12:22:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ntqO1TmHp1Bsy7IMIB/RuvSHy/4zGruqN+OT/sIfPbA=; b=ZFoBGowTMVZcHDMoXIZ81Lb0gQp/CvViojfvtRaS3ITSacbV0NOJlUprxGjp+M6jw6 t95h834WGa19vGirIXR7nl+9QbCuu2EGOpvIhRccTH4S/FAXZgsLguytqbgTa3Ta4vbZ vMAxNA8cR44y9kfIyKgu4+pbBDgSGV6J1dcHv2fUxiO1lf+inCd6UwbUm1dNpPUUO5BN uUak5KzU7GeUrjAm7KS7r0gZ+qNIRwCX/2Z3GnDqbhs/7NenFOAzKa48Xt34zLJ0ttP+ 62JEnXTqA5SUyNVvEen9q3t3LMigk8vuXDeDmwMb7Fqw/POUadRUqEVcI8W2ysj22+TO vVQQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ntqO1TmHp1Bsy7IMIB/RuvSHy/4zGruqN+OT/sIfPbA=; b=BHOTl6bkXXoX1cfGJKkOqlhOsKUMOHSyT04wecnf17Ejgra/BHfW5kC8XMc2s9S2Xd o+hLR65RqK6qXcDNsdlHZpPLIOPZwUUY2flKkxbGGutVjzyvcwJx+1bRmWMDDCLd6+oA +PLZzce00dt7uaK3LukkcXp0NoWrkcMG/Y7o3+xcybEOwRjRPhH7EdNqt8G6fyU7Scaa EFxPcHebYELFzWbAi+vzlHBTSaiVXXaSefqiycKI3hl4ZFXIjgjmffJ/+Wn5IR7K0L+2 uJKgRxhr1oiU8ma5oIfXn6uDafJFc2cDWmD/oSeoTD/y8X8cI93r/Fg7r1x5n3ztcg04 6h1g== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaVk8iaqVCQ3OZHhHjh3HtEhfzTmgCzjPtQujKgZRAvN3ejVXmfs koIE5+4NQhuWpcJBldAG8mlrNUAzdqImJyGcXrrK7w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+Q99cNeW4nDrc8alnswewUStncNrUJilIxZ518g5VKwWkhB4Xer/CZmlK7KdRwoJ5sAdPlCrrT5XgrHuIMgOVo= X-Received: by 10.31.2.137 with SMTP id 131mr4514457vkc.190.1509045747691; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 12:22:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.1.243 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 12:22:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Antonio Olivares Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:22:27 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: autologin from console not working on FreeBSD-11.1p2 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:22:29 -0000 Dear FBSD users, I had a machine that did not want to boot up anymore. This morning my friend which is a computer technician started it up for me and it is working. I setup FreeBSD 11.1 on it and installed pkgs and xorg and have it working. However, my autologin procedures which worked before no longer work. I have a user olivares and configured /etc/gettytab and /etc/ttyS In /etc/ttyS ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Al" cons25 on secure in /etc/gettytab # log me in automatically A|Al|Autologin console:\ ht:np:sp#115200:al=olivares and when i startup system instead of logging in automagically, it asks for password. I have .profile configured to automatically run startx. How do i enable passwordless logins? I have another working machine but i have updated from 11.0-RELEASE to 11.1-RELEASE-p2 Best Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 26 19:47:10 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4113DE51D2E for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:47:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay12.qsc.de (mailrelay12.qsc.de [212.99.163.153]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF51566F93 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:47:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay12.qsc.de; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 21:46:23 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-193.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.193]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01DBD3CBF9; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 21:46:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v9QJkKjR002242; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 21:46:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 21:46:20 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ian Smith Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Manish Jain Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins Message-Id: <20171026214620.bf8fcbf2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20171027021115.A40402@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20171027021115.A40402@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay12.qsc.de with D63D06A3B77 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1536 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:47:10 -0000 On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 03:02:17 +1100 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 699, Issue 4, Message: 3 > On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 15:16:47 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > > > On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 02:23:23 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: > > > [...] > > > (Note : some built-ins (e.g. 'test') do have their own man pages) > > > > Well, test is a binary, a separate program, not a builtin. ;-) > > > > % which test > > /bin/test > > > > % which [ > > /bin/[ > > % which test > /bin/test > % sh > $ which test > /bin/test > > These results are correct for test, but it _is_ builtin to sh(1): > > [ A built-in equivalent of test(1). > test A built-in equivalent of test(1). Yes, this is true as long as the script uses [ or test. Some do explicitely call /bin/test. I'm almost sure this isn't true anymore on today's modern FreeBSD, but older UNIX scripts occassionally were constructed in such a way that they called the binaries explicitely with the full path. Maybe this has been some portability issue. > Fortunately - or it'd be much slower with, um, testing. So which isn't > aware of the sh(1) builtin (since sh(1) has no 'which' builtin, so uses > which(1)) .. whereas csh(1) has builtin which but no 'test' (as such, > though all test's, um, tests can be done in csh). Easily confusing, eh? > > Command External csh(1) sh(1) > echo Yes Yes Yes > test Yes No Yes To complete that table: Command External csh(1) sh(1) which Yes Yes No So the result of the command is a bit confusing as "which", no matter if being internal or external, is showing the binary as a result whereas it should show builtin. Maybe this is another "fight" between external and builtin? Oh, and nobody with a sane mind writes shell scripts in C Shell. Of course I've done it. ;-) > > Of course, [ and test are actually one and the same binary. > > And the builtin test in sh(1) is correctly covered by test(1). Yes, sh implements it as per the manpage. > > Keep in mind some shells also offer a builtin replacement for > > an existing binary. A good example is echo where a binary exists, > > but the C Shell has its own internal echo, while BASH uses the > > binary one: > > > > % which echo > > echo: shell built-in command. > > > > $ which echo > > /bin/echo > > Again, despite that, echo _is_ builtin to sh(1) - and has more options. That is correct (even though sh's "which echo" reports the binary); sh's echo supports escape sequences using the -e option, while the binary doesn't. > > In such a case, what should "man echo" show? > > Among other things, see builtin(1)" .. oh, it already does. > > Perhaps sh(1) could use a smarter 'which' that exposes its own builtins > such as these two more readily - but who dares mess with sh(1) ? :) Interactively? Probably only the poor souls dropped into maintenance mode (single user mode) without the ability to start a more comfortable interactive shell... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 26 19:59:06 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30223E51FAF for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:59:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay10.qsc.de (mailrelay10.qsc.de [212.99.163.152]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 959846742C for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay10.qsc.de; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 21:58:57 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-193.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.193]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9041A3CBF9; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 21:58:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v9QJwtvY002334; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 21:58:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 21:58:55 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Antonio Olivares Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: autologin from console not working on FreeBSD-11.1p2 Message-Id: <20171026215855.67642f40.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay10.qsc.de with D3A34683D79 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1771 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:59:06 -0000 On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:22:27 -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > I had a machine that did not want to boot up anymore. This morning my > friend which is a computer technician started it up for me and it is > working. I setup FreeBSD 11.1 on it and installed pkgs and xorg and > have it working. However, my autologin procedures which worked before > no longer work. I have a user olivares and configured /etc/gettytab > and /etc/ttyS I did quickly review a message to you regarding the same topic (from 2011) and would like to quickly check a few things: > In /etc/ttyS That is /etc/ttys, right? :-) > ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Al" cons25 on secure Correct. > in /etc/gettytab > > # log me in automatically > A|Al|Autologin console:\ > ht:np:sp#115200:al=olivares Where is this entry located in the gettytab? It needs to be placed after the "Pc" entry and should "source" it, so "tc=Pc" should be added. On the other hand, the options "ht:np:sp#115200" aren't needed as you are not defining a (hardware) serial terminal, and the "Pc" profile covers this anyway. > and when i startup system instead of logging in automagically, it asks > for password. I have .profile configured to automatically run startx. This point isn't even reached if a password is being asked for. If you are using ~/.profile, make sure you are using the shell that matches this file, i. e., the default dialog shell C shell won't care for this file, it requires ~/.login instead. > How do i enable passwordless logins? > I have another working machine but i have updated from 11.0-RELEASE to > 11.1-RELEASE-p2 Check the "initial instructions" again. Allow me to provide a full quote: *** begin quote *** From: Polytropon To: Antonio Olivares Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: Polytropon Subject: Re: autologin on default shell /bin/sh Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 20:13:45 +0200 Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 19:07:47 -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > I had it working (autologin on 8.2 amd64) on two machines, but I > wanted to test out/install nvidia driver and I used sysinstall to > install kernel source from 8.2 dvd and then many things I had working, > like printer, scanner were erased. Shell changed back to /bin/sh, I > was using bash. For some reason or another, it was not working. I > did the same thing and now it works again :) Your autologin configuration is a little bit different from mine. I'll share and accomodate it to your particular use. Step 1: In /etc/gettytab, autologin:\ :al=olivares:tc=Pc: is to be placed _after_ the "default:" entry. This step defines the "getty profile" for an automated login with the username "olivares" as associated to the "al=" parameter. Also note the "tc=" parameter which incorporates the default "Pc" settings (that you can encounter in the next step's working file). Step 2: In /etc/ttys, the line for ttyv0 is to be changed like this: ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty autologin" cons25l1 on secure This instructs the "getty" program to use the "autologin profile" at system startup and automatically log in the user "olivares" (see step 1). Attention: Maybe you need a different console configuration; "cons25" is the system's default. In Germany, I have to use cons25l1 for the local magic. :-) There should not be any problem if you have "xterm" there. Maybe just some terminal capabilities don't work in text mode, but there should be no effect on autologin functionality. Make sure you _don't_ have a line calling xdm here - maybe this causes conflicts. Step 3: In /home/olivares (or where $HOME is located for that user), make ~/.login end in [ ! -f /tmp/.X0-lock ] && startx For bash, this would go to ~/.bash_login. Other shells may have different startup files; see "man sh", "man csh", "man bash" and "man " for details. To become independent from the actual login shell, you can write this command into a script that is executable by the user, e. g. "chmod +x /opt/bin/autostartx"; if you have /opt/bin in $PATH, you just need to call "autostartx" in the correct startup file. Then _any_ shell startup script could contain the call that script, like this: #!/bin/sh [ ! -f /tmp/.X0-lock ] && startx exec $0 You can also make this script local to your user in ~/bin, maybe you already have that in $PATH. Attention: This _might_ get you into an "infinite loop" if something is _really_ wrong. :-) You can even modify the script to _restart_ X if it should have crashed, so you don't fall back to the console in case of a severe error (and enter "startx" again). Step 4 (optional): In order to combine the use of xdm (if you want to) and the different system shells, for your user account there can be some additional settings. In ~/.xsession, put #!/bin/csh source ~/.cshrc exec ~/.xinitrc This file will be executed in case xdm is used. I am using the C shell as a dialog shell here, so this makes sure my shell settings get incorporated. Then control will be given to the .xinitrc file, usually executed when you run "startx", but xdm _may_ have a different opinion. In ~/.xinitrc, put all your X startup stuff. #!/bin/sh [ -f ~/.xmodmaprc ] && xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc #xrandr --fb 1400x1050 #xrandr --size 1400x1050 intclock -geometry 186x65+151-0 & xload -geometry 150x70+0+826 -bg white -fg black -hl gray \ -scale 5 -label "System load" -update 1 & xmbmon -g 150x100+0+897 -tmin 20.0 -tmax 70.0 -cmtmb CPU \ -cltmb blue -cmtcpu CS -cltcpu cyan -cmtcs SYS \ -cltcs green -vmin 2.0 -vmax 3.0 -cmvc V -clvc red & xclock -geometry 50x50+50+998 & xbiff -geometry 50x50+0+998 & xlogo -geometry 50x50+100+998 -render & xcpufreq -geometry 183x167+151+826 -cpuscalecolor grey \ -freqscalecolor grey -scales 6 -update 1 -jumpscroll 1 & xterm -geometry 80x25+0+465 -class NOCLOSE_TERMINAL -fg black \ -bg beige -title Terminal & xsetroot -solid rgb:3b/4c/7a xset b 100 1000 15 & xset r rate 250 30 & xset s off & xset -dpms & exec wmaker The first line (#!) is optional. I'm not fully sure if those files have to be +x attributes (I _have_ those settings, no idea where they came from and why they are still here). But it works, so I don't question it. :-) Step 5: Profit. :-) > In the beta 2 machine, the /dev/ttys has xterm instead of original > cons25. Other than that, you are correct with the rest of the > information. It was strange that someone/some folks have changed > cons25 to xterm. Surprises me too, but maybe the console driver now uses this emulation for I/O... I'm not running 9-BETA here so I cannot check, sorry. *** end quote *** -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 26 21:52:21 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C79D8E53D75 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 21:52:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from filter06.peak.org (filter06.peak.org [69.59.194.82]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A086E6AFCD for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 21:52:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org ([207.55.16.112]) by filter06.peak.org ({0c47b2c3-829a-4f18-b445-de68be8d048d}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTPS id 20171026214907804_0000 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:49:07 -0700 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A24DD1142AE for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:49:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6960311429B for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:49:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zmail-mta02.peak.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id K_A7PtICiNqh for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:49:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailproxy-lb-06.peak.org (mailproxy-lb-06.peak.org [207.55.17.96]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E8F12C238 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carlj by elm.localnet with local (Exim 4.89 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1e7pwj-000855-Dd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:44:13 -0700 From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins References: <20171027021115.A40402@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20171026214620.bf8fcbf2.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:44:13 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20171026214620.bf8fcbf2.freebsd@edvax.de> (Polytropon's message of "Thu, 26 Oct 2017 21:46:20 +0200") Message-ID: <86po99oa8i.fsf@elm.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MAG-OUTBOUND: peakinternet.redcondor.net@207.55.16/22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 21:52:21 -0000 Polytropon writes: >> > Keep in mind some shells also offer a builtin replacement for >> > an existing binary. A good example is echo where a binary exists, >> > but the C Shell has its own internal echo, while BASH uses the >> > binary one: >> > >> > % which echo >> > echo: shell built-in command. >> > >> > $ which echo >> > /bin/echo >> >> Again, despite that, echo _is_ builtin to sh(1) - and has more options. > > That is correct (even though sh's "which echo" reports the binary); > sh's echo supports escape sequences using the -e option, while the > binary doesn't. 'Which' is an external for sh so it can't show builtin commands. Sh has the builtin 'type' command which is the equivalent of 'which' for csh. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 26 23:25:00 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F1AE55755 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 23:25:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C1E6DF4A for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 23:25:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (router.lan [172.30.250.2]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 523A033C26; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:24:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 1636B3981A; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:24:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Polytropon Cc: Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Manish Jain Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins References: <20171027021115.A40402@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20171026214620.bf8fcbf2.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:24:50 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20171026214620.bf8fcbf2.freebsd@edvax.de> (Polytropon's message of "Thu, 26 Oct 2017 21:46:20 +0200") Message-ID: <44r2tpmr0d.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 23:25:00 -0000 Polytropon writes: > Yes, this is true as long as the script uses [ or test. Some do > explicitely call /bin/test. I'm almost sure this isn't true anymore > on today's modern FreeBSD, but older UNIX scripts occassionally > were constructed in such a way that they called the binaries > explicitely with the full path. Maybe this has been some portability > issue. It's more of a security issue. If you call it with the full path, you know, absolutely, which flavor of the command will be used. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 27 00:20:32 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03864E569D1 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 00:20:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay14.qsc.de (mailrelay14.qsc.de [212.99.163.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F4A96F4F9 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 00:20:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay14.qsc.de; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 02:20:20 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-193.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.193]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D9283CBF9; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 02:20:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v9R0KJ9x004116; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 02:20:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 02:20:19 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Lowell Gilbert Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins Message-Id: <20171027022019.23057efb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <44r2tpmr0d.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> References: <20171027021115.A40402@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20171026214620.bf8fcbf2.freebsd@edvax.de> <44r2tpmr0d.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay14.qsc.de with 6E4156A3538 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1379 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 00:20:32 -0000 On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:24:50 -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Polytropon writes: > > > Yes, this is true as long as the script uses [ or test. Some do > > explicitely call /bin/test. I'm almost sure this isn't true anymore > > on today's modern FreeBSD, but older UNIX scripts occassionally > > were constructed in such a way that they called the binaries > > explicitely with the full path. Maybe this has been some portability > > issue. > > It's more of a security issue. If you call it with the full path, > you know, absolutely, which flavor of the command will be used. Or a specific environment issue, where $PATH couldn't be predicted, so an explicit call was needed (e. g., /usr/local/bin/lpr vs. /usr/bin/lpr). Of course security is added, for example when there is a "fake binary" placed in a directory like ~/bin which is listed in $PATH _before_ the system directory, and such a "fake binary" mimics a command often used, like cp, rm, grep, and what you usually find in scripts, and does something that might be problematic - unnoticed... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 27 01:35:57 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ACDFE5852B for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 01:35:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x22f.google.com (mail-ua0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3371B71864 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 01:35:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id h34so3829105uaa.6 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 18:35:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=cjMDijRzoTJtwJjrpu7fv9+gOkZSSDuGYleOlrQgvQw=; b=Y/lHcZR+x3O4MGTtq0r7Sv19cMNhvRQecbywbSS0oHvMQ7tLlfTJx0MpYTazKfvPRa 5KizYCZVuqD37S5lJKRnHeKdFgA0O4MVXiVsi2oHuX92U7RyzUWXfydrq7AbRox2BlB/ hfwTuMd+ZHyB3nn/HqblH3OCBTHPL83RnHFlTAOwa0LsCMVXXxyxw8TgZIqiobfhgw1I PGrFxH0EZkeSqCtxkAj1lnCHCDW6n2OtW+biSSZlkaI6Jg6j2cnn56MLP1l/JCJENRKd ymx5nkNHj0xtQrCUtFZgHGAMV9rZ0kgBZM2J33Mh3zV7kaWrFKPkJXxIWVC8bgwFVN75 6kXg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=cjMDijRzoTJtwJjrpu7fv9+gOkZSSDuGYleOlrQgvQw=; b=mPj4pzOZZLR4y6EEkl9LaF0PH4RLmo6oIYT2obxPZ2A9m78J72i2OgZrZNwTxbSZ0T ngoKshkc1v9I3j9g77y2RyJGPAmfEyBSSHz6Em9EZSp0YUSJX3Cw8lF5bVAudjKCeNml yL88jQ0hNiSRcUu+tHvcW/Xbv01f5+tq6BU/uhA3EjYW1ZQl/lvARJcZ7QiJUaHLONC9 7Qdt3jDm6H4kM2/lryoHql5I35KR0dlmANeFVoGVenwllrc4dNuk03l94ZrQdy2gg9qv lO3iq27F0MIdpSRXrHIu7hyDH4gT20O7DIwdzLq7k02zfeb30NuEX0kAAAiND2NXI+Ne xjAQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaUouoZJSRx324ar+Q6ya872VksVW8wS1wWysI7OSRBmBjAJjRqn +cAaXNv+OdliWnumeqzGzGf1UMXmQkD3j60SAk0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+QNxISD69cOJIYNp2LGAJPDSZgIawuTWTB8GQxj8oTrxzyl/YVjtYLXCZrTURXhPTazdPlqO2mZOmTgUQfsE7s= X-Received: by 10.159.58.201 with SMTP id q9mr3314717uag.98.1509068156151; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 18:35:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.1.243 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 18:35:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20171026215855.67642f40.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20171026215855.67642f40.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Antonio Olivares Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 20:35:55 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: autologin from console not working on FreeBSD-11.1p2 To: Polytropon Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 01:35:57 -0000 On Thursday, October 26, 2017, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:22:27 -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > I had a machine that did not want to boot up anymore. This morning my > > friend which is a computer technician started it up for me and it is > > working. I setup FreeBSD 11.1 on it and installed pkgs and xorg and > > have it working. However, my autologin procedures which worked before > > no longer work. I have a user olivares and configured /etc/gettytab > > and /etc/ttyS > > I did quickly review a message to you regarding the same topic > (from 2011) and would like to quickly check a few things: > > > > In /etc/ttyS > > That is /etc/ttys, right? :-) > > > > > ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Al" cons25 on secure > > Correct. > > > > > in /etc/gettytab > > > > # log me in automatically > > A|Al|Autologin console:\ > > ht:np:sp#115200:al=olivares > > Where is this entry located in the gettytab? It needs to be placed > after the "Pc" entry and should "source" it, so "tc=Pc" should be > added. On the other hand, the options "ht:np:sp#115200" aren't needed > as you are not defining a (hardware) serial terminal, and the "Pc" > profile covers this anyway. > > > > > and when i startup system instead of logging in automagically, it asks > > for password. I have .profile configured to automatically run startx. > > This point isn't even reached if a password is being asked for. > If you are using ~/.profile, make sure you are using the shell > that matches this file, i. e., the default dialog shell C shell > won't care for this file, it requires ~/.login instead. > > > > > How do i enable passwordless logins? > > I have another working machine but i have updated from 11.0-RELEASE to > > 11.1-RELEASE-p2 > > Check the "initial instructions" again. Allow me to provide a > full quote: > > > > *** begin quote *** > > > From: Polytropon > > To: Antonio Olivares > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Reply-To: Polytropon > > Subject: Re: autologin on default shell /bin/sh > Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 20:13:45 +0200 > Organization: EDVAX > X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) > > On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 19:07:47 -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > I had it working (autologin on 8.2 amd64) on two machines, but I > > wanted to test out/install nvidia driver and I used sysinstall to > > install kernel source from 8.2 dvd and then many things I had working, > > like printer, scanner were erased. Shell changed back to /bin/sh, I > > was using bash. For some reason or another, it was not working. I > > did the same thing and now it works again :) > > Your autologin configuration is a little bit different from > mine. I'll share and accomodate it to your particular use. > > Step 1: > > In /etc/gettytab, > > autologin:\ > :al=olivares:tc=Pc: > > is to be placed _after_ the "default:" entry. This step defines > the "getty profile" for an automated login with the username > "olivares" as associated to the "al=" parameter. Also note > the "tc=" parameter which incorporates the default "Pc" > settings (that you can encounter in the next step's working > file). > > > > Step 2: > > In /etc/ttys, the line for ttyv0 is to be changed like this: > > ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty autologin" cons25l1 on secure > > This instructs the "getty" program to use the "autologin > profile" at system startup and automatically log in the > user "olivares" (see step 1). > > Attention: Maybe you need a different console configuration; > "cons25" is the system's default. In Germany, I have to use > cons25l1 for the local magic. :-) > > There should not be any problem if you have "xterm" there. > Maybe just some terminal capabilities don't work in text > mode, but there should be no effect on autologin functionality. > > Make sure you _don't_ have a line calling xdm here - maybe this > causes conflicts. > > > > Step 3: > > In /home/olivares (or where $HOME is located for that user), > make ~/.login end in > > [ ! -f /tmp/.X0-lock ] && startx > > For bash, this would go to ~/.bash_login. Other shells may > have different startup files; see "man sh", "man csh", > "man bash" and "man " for details. > > To become independent from the actual login shell, you can > write this command into a script that is executable by the > user, e. g. "chmod +x /opt/bin/autostartx"; if you have > /opt/bin in $PATH, you just need to call "autostartx" in > the correct startup file. Then _any_ shell startup script > could contain the call that script, like this: > > #!/bin/sh > [ ! -f /tmp/.X0-lock ] && startx > exec $0 > > You can also make this script local to your user in ~/bin, > maybe you already have that in $PATH. > > Attention: This _might_ get you into an "infinite loop" if > something is _really_ wrong. :-) > > You can even modify the script to _restart_ X if it should > have crashed, so you don't fall back to the console in > case of a severe error (and enter "startx" again). > > > > Step 4 (optional): > > In order to combine the use of xdm (if you want to) and the > different system shells, for your user account there can be > some additional settings. > > In ~/.xsession, put > > #!/bin/csh > source ~/.cshrc > exec ~/.xinitrc > > This file will be executed in case xdm is used. I am using the > C shell as a dialog shell here, so this makes sure my shell > settings get incorporated. Then control will be given to the > .xinitrc file, usually executed when you run "startx", but > xdm _may_ have a different opinion. > > In ~/.xinitrc, put all your X startup stuff. > > #!/bin/sh > [ -f ~/.xmodmaprc ] && xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc > #xrandr --fb 1400x1050 > #xrandr --size 1400x1050 > intclock -geometry 186x65+151-0 & > xload -geometry 150x70+0+826 -bg white -fg black -hl gray \ > -scale 5 -label "System load" -update 1 & > xmbmon -g 150x100+0+897 -tmin 20.0 -tmax 70.0 -cmtmb CPU \ > -cltmb blue -cmtcpu CS -cltcpu cyan -cmtcs SYS \ > -cltcs green -vmin 2.0 -vmax 3.0 -cmvc V -clvc red & > xclock -geometry 50x50+50+998 & > xbiff -geometry 50x50+0+998 & > xlogo -geometry 50x50+100+998 -render & > xcpufreq -geometry 183x167+151+826 -cpuscalecolor grey \ > -freqscalecolor grey -scales 6 -update 1 -jumpscroll 1 & > xterm -geometry 80x25+0+465 -class NOCLOSE_TERMINAL -fg black \ > -bg beige -title Terminal & > xsetroot -solid rgb:3b/4c/7a > xset b 100 1000 15 & > xset r rate 250 30 & > xset s off & > xset -dpms & > exec wmaker > > The first line (#!) is optional. I'm not fully sure if those > files have to be +x attributes (I _have_ those settings, no idea > where they came from and why they are still here). But it works, > so I don't question it. :-) > > > > Step 5: > > Profit. :-) > > > > > In the beta 2 machine, the /dev/ttys has xterm instead of original > > cons25. Other than that, you are correct with the rest of the > > information. It was strange that someone/some folks have changed > > cons25 to xterm. > > Surprises me too, but maybe the console driver now uses > this emulation for I/O... I'm not running 9-BETA here so > I cannot check, sorry. > > > > *** end quote *** > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > On /etc/ttys I have in ttyv0 and changed Pc to Al. And the entry in /etc/gettytab is the placed at the very end of the file. In one machine it has xterm , while the older 9.2* machine has cons25 as I just copied over. Maybe something changed? I will add the tc part over and see if it works on Monday. I will have workshop tomorrow and may not get a chance to check if adding the tc part makes it work. I am using shell $ sh and have ~/.xinitrc and ~/.profile are correct with the test if console then startx and that works. Just that I am getting password prompt. I login to shell then startx, using lumina desktop. Thank you very much sir, as you and several other folks are very helpful when we need it. Best Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 27 01:59:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9C7E58B69 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 01:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay15.qsc.de (mailrelay15.qsc.de [212.99.187.254]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47E5F720DD for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 01:59:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay15.qsc.de; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 03:58:05 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-193.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.193]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3625A3CBF9; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 03:58:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v9R1w33U005453; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 03:58:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 03:58:03 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Antonio Olivares Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: autologin from console not working on FreeBSD-11.1p2 Message-Id: <20171027035803.14dca7c9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20171026215855.67642f40.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay15.qsc.de with 704AE689538 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1749 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 01:59:06 -0000 On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 20:35:55 -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > On /etc/ttys I have in ttyv0 and changed Pc to Al. And the entry in > /etc/gettytab is the placed at the very end of the file. That is correct. > In one machine it > has xterm , while the older 9.2* machine has cons25 as I just copied over. > Maybe something changed? Yes. The default "text mode" (basically gone with the sc -> vt move) now is xterm. > I will add the tc part over and see if it works on > Monday. As you can see from "man gettytab", tc is "table continuation", and from a working example I think this should be included. > I will have workshop tomorrow and may not get a chance to check if > adding the tc part makes it work. I am using shell $ sh and have > ~/.xinitrc and ~/.profile are correct with the test if console then startx > and that works. According to "man sh", using ~/.profile is the correct approach. As you're probably not going to interact with /bin/sh much (as it is the default scripting shell, not the default dialog shell), it probably doesn't matter as all you need is something to bring up X with a desktop environment. > Just that I am getting password prompt. I login to shell > then startx, using lumina desktop. The problem probably is with the gettytab entries. Check them when you can, and compare with the solution mentioned. It is of course possible that during the course of FreeBSD development, things have changed in a way that it doesn't work anymore... :-/ -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Two ports, print/freetype2 and www/linux-c6-flashplugin11. The latter port was deleted some time ago and does not exist in my tree. The former is one that I had manually patched. Instead of resolving conflicts cleanly, I simply deleted all of the port and run "svn up". It ran cleanly, but one file was not downloaded, the recently added patch. I ran "svn status" which returns: D C print/freetype2/files/extra-patch-fix_size_metrics.diff > local unversioned, incoming file add upon update ! C www/linux-c6-flashplugin11 > local dir edit, incoming dir delete or move upon update ! www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/Makefile ! www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/distinfo ! www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/pkg-descr ! www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/pkg-message ! www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/pkg-plist I have no idea what triggered the flashplugin11 issue. It's been gone for a long time, but this is the first time I have run a status on ports in a very long time. I suspect that there is an easy to fix these, but I have yet to find it. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 27 06:25:52 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9129E5D2F2 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 06:25:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fluca1978@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22a.google.com (mail-io0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FA317D6FA for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 06:25:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fluca1978@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id n137so10492902iod.6 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 23:25:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=M8yQkHcTRY1h8Om1XqWmmHjwAxPJquElSWEjxTbIP4k=; b=fJydHP/hQnwMaKQwfkd7s++6Z8gqoMvE5s29sIWQfs4sPN2MXHfwNgjdjZ/eKxP3a0 M7EfuuZab1rh3UOCBt0zeSV1sdQ69vpYvHjZACGM9ul35pm8U60RRLCywUFbWAaNSxWx hJYYkYTZowmOU58XfgNAIPnyEVag1sU3Ru9fymbNQwjdxwac121JSsinCMrUtkWUgt7N wKi8kuKO4Vsdbmh5Cw5Y20BNjKxsukwL5Fk2XXlOrAOdZHgumhTIkN2LGMrmkoIwleWl 7TEH1+xbvKt4qftjpMSSzb8KkU5CC0sOVGg6USH1rFb6Kp9n4sw6OTNUTrX9GZ7vxLnf lmSg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=M8yQkHcTRY1h8Om1XqWmmHjwAxPJquElSWEjxTbIP4k=; b=WrjA4YNizv/GvnGe+6P6yT2Z+NQW+aoGOyYi1gHankqWdpffC5Znr8nbqnpehN22P/ Eg7F2gLI2xmcl6NAHqPsPeTF2hG7gQFpu6BOIynu7KivwPynCoB1g7mcBCWHDn6JM593 0VxyJk/DYNF+65yVtB9VhbRqlAV5O1MgBPeXCGNfd+JAm17RYYTgJqRhOGobLF1LN/e4 RY2Pvj4ySCawblSis64RYTIEopY9UfW3vchKrRfKRLw70IcjaxA0Y/jOzalapKnt3l7N zO/6nE0OD5HlbJAkd3RpFsVp/QJwe+LN5Hw7U+lP/+vhReXFMWVFpWkTr/8lrPrHjDB3 jw1A== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaUzPGhaPOKlqdA1OB8+AyoqyzBR5Zsr4yRoxeYGEc96Xs5pjeuH 3r2vIC5p40+yJu6WpCX9/wsqx/uxXaAAi72lA2M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+SYF3Blt/4ZHxSmzEkVbeFZlnQfcDWC9m+lJ3l7duDL/rCLiWb811lcsyNd5CB9ecpapwZQs82ttgPGgTuQCIw= X-Received: by 10.36.23.215 with SMTP id 206mr1834706ith.62.1509085551658; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 23:25:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: fluca1978@gmail.com Received: by 10.79.164.93 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 23:25:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86vaj1oqkg.fsf@elm.localnet> References: <86vaj1oqkg.fsf@elm.localnet> From: Luca Ferrari Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 08:25:11 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: s8_6dm560uFDDs0HehM3yzDLb2U Message-ID: Subject: Re: label disappearing at reboot To: Carl Johnson Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 06:25:52 -0000 On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Carl Johnson wrote: > This creates a temporary label only according to the man page, so you > need to use 'glabel label' to create a permanent label. > My fault, I did not re-read the man page... Thanks. Luca From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 27 06:37:55 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2E4E5D662 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 06:37:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4C6F7DC74 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 06:37:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:2c74:e260:3e4e:79e0]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3EB9518BC for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 06:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Clearing subversion issue To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <72c2d673-121d-956a-d4dd-dea5d8393f34@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 07:37:44 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="icMbKntnV1VOM6VveXCriaefKXnFwxKgE" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 06:37:55 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --icMbKntnV1VOM6VveXCriaefKXnFwxKgE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="bc7mdUx5E4NriDHH5NJC6Rs7X2sQWKWvW"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <72c2d673-121d-956a-d4dd-dea5d8393f34@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Clearing subversion issue References: In-Reply-To: --bc7mdUx5E4NriDHH5NJC6Rs7X2sQWKWvW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 27/10/2017 06:52, Kevin Oberman wrote: > Instead of resolving conflicts cleanly, I simply deleted all of the por= t > and run "svn up". It ran cleanly, but one file was not downloaded, the > recently added patch. >=20 > I ran "svn status" which returns: > D C print/freetype2/files/extra-patch-fix_size_metrics.diff > > local unversioned, incoming file add upon update This is svn not overwriting an un-versioned file. If you know that you want the patch from upstream, try removing extra-patch-fix_size_metrics.diff and updating again. > ! C www/linux-c6-flashplugin11 > > local dir edit, incoming dir delete or move upon update > ! www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/Makefile > ! www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/distinfo > ! www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/pkg-descr > ! www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/pkg-message > ! www/linux-c6-flashplugin11/pkg-plist This is svn expecting to rename that directory and all its contents, and being confused because some things have already disappeared. > I have no idea what triggered the flashplugin11 issue. It's been gone f= or a > long time, but this is the first time I have run a status on ports in a= > very long time. >=20 > I suspect that there is an easy to fix these, but I have yet to find it= =2E In general, 'svn revert -R foo/bar' will undo local changes and give you copies of the foo/bar port's files exactly as they appear in the repository. You should also look at 'svn status' to find files in your tree that don't exist in the repository. svn does have a habit of leaving some files in your tree which eg. git would remove -- this is particularly noticeable with 'svn rm' Cheers, Matthew --bc7mdUx5E4NriDHH5NJC6Rs7X2sQWKWvW-- --icMbKntnV1VOM6VveXCriaefKXnFwxKgE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJZ8tQ/XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATyIgQAK8zGxsLg3yGtJAyEJgqpbCz EmqmgZahDJptMLErPA88YAifKkE/V2hWtQyhj73A4HveU4HL2AcIsg97qCvhR1ko TuwsO63w4mHo6ietWiv4yiSuThDu42b3I1OZ8tZVmkztRwYeMd6SdzTbdQakuuO0 UitpEalxnCGAHeZlw8flHRs3mQaPgtjGGvvKUpGpSkYxrbeqZ8ucdhnW+MVnsurN pB2iIqBoSwY9jQNpRaL1kj7DVtSdj9F1/pWrP3bpVBgxOxiom/yC5YBK1y6x3JzD rzSq4OJ5AU7BzUKI95+bYWrblDK1N1y0vnYmXdH2RYyL9w97t8wplhMvN8i5t3zv 7pJvhWZ48SMKMxvpB50b6i4LgXypVLmwM4zgvNMFwsQMv7s6N9flIWea35oEzVWj 4wiImq5rOqn2Vo3oxxHEFlczqTrZWaeoMV23lQtXI70U7C63T6q0XCDAeVfHcmlh 5EK88n/qlBghjdwEyuGt100jsOLFOgl54nvhpsiD+Ov/b3MQSeXkTd3T0SfK5ZCJ XmPBGd8ndJtuWCwvrYHc/ihQWzgagGbXeA97TCUoxhugq7jwnJTdmO1mVh0AnOtE v2cE0whyQ8HmKgnTGQQC47LseFRrYSnPE1eKTorBq0NcjVW9oUeZPVMmrYL6L1gN khM0Tqy5Y1jW1oOlrHtB =6NzJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --icMbKntnV1VOM6VveXCriaefKXnFwxKgE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 27 09:06:58 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988B0E3CBC7 for ; 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Fri, 27 Oct 2017 11:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "bs1.fjl.org.uk", Issuer "bs1.fjl.org.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5FF0A91 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 11:13:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.1.150] (host81-134-87-65.range81-130.btcentralplus.com [81.134.87.65]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v9RBDZ96034920 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 12:13:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <59F314E5.4080306@fjl.co.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 12:13:41 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt Reply-To: frank2@fjl.co.uk Organization: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: When is a FreeBSD port not a port? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 11:13:59 -0000 I've written a "few" utilities over the years that I've made available in various places, but it might make sense to put them in ports/sysutils. However, they were written on BSD and are therefore not ports. Should I submit them anyway (if I find time to clean them up, of course)? Or if not, any (polite) suggestions as to where I should put them? I don't use GitHub or SourceForge (too old to change my ways, and I normally work off-line anyway). e.g. http://www.fjl.co.uk/free-stuff ------ On a slightly different point, I needed something to rate-throttle a stream and before I wrote one I checked the ports tree for something called "throttle", thinking this a likely name, and found just what I was looking for - except it's been abandoned and removed. It was all of 15 minutes to write a new one, but does anyone know anything about the original? Thanks Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 27 11:29:54 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241D9E412E5 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 11:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sophie.hunt@ctechemail.com) Received: from server.ctechemail.com (server.ctechemail.com [159.203.99.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA9B7118C for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 11:29:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sophie.hunt@ctechemail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ctechemail.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:Message-ID:Subject:Reply-To:From:To:Date:Sender:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=PI39lpL/wkFGDNXAddZaPGVqUgwDNsKlRIt7IIO8YBU=; b=olfeeOEAtMF1cZrGlFD/IMilQf F6g1U+6Y7n/bNVXif+0YGkYT0QxVWm18fWm4/YK63byUQFtlltM6HTICx3C9//tBq85EhtdfzAkMZ MqhGudk6Qq/TH4yws4WPsfAjrYG7R5OW9vuaxQB360mbfODqHAWY9RAx5YxtEzIuRRbWF8Qbs6U4e 8i6IbwwlhHg71a3Uq07jwYLaO9QWF0dpRZ1L6i2LKHww3eWjJHRxJuJJT6D2SQHpto+/9hGZeC/9t 4XXsg1QlCr5kqIerPiL7bMZChyw5BHAtE+hs9o0Prtcgw6ZxPEkYL7b24C79FpdR4qn/v+hhB6s0b rAV9+Tcg==; Received: from ec2-54-158-245-170.compute-1.amazonaws.com ([54.158.245.170]:47749 helo=ctechemail.com) by server.ctechemail.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1e82pe-0000Rr-49 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 11:29:46 +0000 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 11:29:45 +0000 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Sophie Hunt Reply-To: Sophie Hunt Subject: Re: Linux page suggestion Message-ID: <11965152.or_mail@ctechemail.com> X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.ctechemail.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ctechemail.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: server.ctechemail.com: authenticated_id: sophie.hunt@ctechemail.com X-Authenticated-Sender: server.ctechemail.com: sophie.hunt@ctechemail.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 11:29:54 -0000 Hi, I wanted to reach out to you one last time. Please see my previous email below, if I don't hear back from you, I'll assume my suggestion isn't helpful. Thank you for your time. On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Sophie Hunt wrote: Hi, I’ve got something which I think might interest you given you shared YoLinux.com in the past (http://www.damnsmallbsd.org/docs/userdocs/freebsd/en/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/why.html). We’ve got a tutorial on building a Linux VPN server (http://comparitech.net/build-linux-vpn). Perhaps you could take a look and if you like it and think your visitors will get value out of it, also share it on your site? No worries if not, either way, I appreciate your time. Thanks, Sophie Don't want emails from us anymore? Reply to this email with the word "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the subject line. Comparitech, Kings Lodge, London Road, Sevenoaks Kent, TM15 6AR, United Kingdom From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 27 12:16:41 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB32E42D9E for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 12:16:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0147E2F83 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 12:16:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.202.132.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A2C791913 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 12:16:31 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: When is a FreeBSD port not a port? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <59F314E5.4080306@fjl.co.uk> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <520fa3b2-8be7-8141-7e8d-9a60c6d1a1ed@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 13:16:31 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <59F314E5.4080306@fjl.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 12:16:41 -0000 On 27/10/2017 12:13, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > I've written a "few" utilities over the years that I've made available > in various places, but it might make sense to put them in > ports/sysutils. However, they were written on BSD and are therefore not > ports. > > Should I submit them anyway (if I find time to clean them up, of > course)? Or if not, any (polite) suggestions as to where I should put > them? I don't use GitHub or SourceForge (too old to change my ways, and > I normally work off-line anyway). > > e.g. http://www.fjl.co.uk/free-stuff > By all means, please do submit your FreeBSD specific code as a "port". There's precedent -- various ports for periodic jobs or other FreeBSD-ish things. We aren't hung up on the precise meaning of "ports" -- it's really a collection of software handily prepared to compile easily and (increasingly so over time) be made available as pre-compiled binary packages. Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 27 12:56:32 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3C6E44866 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 12:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63B3564A50 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 12:56:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id v9RCuFip096396; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 23:56:16 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 23:56:15 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Polytropon cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Manish Jain , Carl Johnson Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins In-Reply-To: <20171026214620.bf8fcbf2.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <20171027232555.W40402@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20171027021115.A40402@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20171026214620.bf8fcbf2.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 12:56:33 -0000 On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 21:46:20 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 03:02:17 +1100 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: > > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 699, Issue 4, Message: 3 > > On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 15:16:47 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > > > % which test > > > /bin/test > > > > > > % which [ > > > /bin/[ > > > > % which test > > /bin/test > > % sh > > $ which test > > /bin/test > > > > These results are correct for test, but it _is_ builtin to sh(1): > > > > [ A built-in equivalent of test(1). > > test A built-in equivalent of test(1). > > Yes, this is true as long as the script uses [ or test. Some do > explicitely call /bin/test. I'm almost sure this isn't true anymore > on today's modern FreeBSD, but older UNIX scripts occassionally > were constructed in such a way that they called the binaries > explicitely with the full path. Maybe this has been some portability > issue. Wwll you could do that .. but I'd expect it to be slower (untested). > > Command External csh(1) sh(1) > > echo Yes Yes Yes > > test Yes No Yes > > To complete that table: > > Command External csh(1) sh(1) > which Yes Yes No Indeed, after posting I thought I should have added that :) > So the result of the command is a bit confusing as "which", no > matter if being internal or external, is showing the binary as > a result whereas it should show builtin. Maybe this is another > "fight" between external and builtin? But see below .. > Oh, and nobody with a sane mind writes shell scripts in C Shell. > Of course I've done it. ;-) Agreed, but I guess I'm not quite so insane :) For one thing, I find csh's redirections confusing and less complete, so even interactively I'll do things to avoid csh syntax like (as a wild example): % sh -c 'for i in a b c; do echo $i; sleep 2; done 2>&1 >file' > > > % which echo > > > echo: shell built-in command. > > > > > > $ which echo > > > /bin/echo > > > > Again, despite that, echo _is_ builtin to sh(1) - and has more options. > > That is correct (even though sh's "which echo" reports the binary); > sh's echo supports escape sequences using the -e option, while the > binary doesn't. However, as Carl Johnson since posted: > 'Which' is an external for sh so it can't show builtin commands. Sh has > the builtin 'type' command which is the equivalent of 'which' for csh. which was news to me. So I tried something: % sh $ alias $ type type type is a shell builtin $ type which which is a tracked alias for /usr/bin/which $ $ alias which=type $ which which which is an alias for type $ type which which is an alias for type $ which test test is a shell builtin $ which echo echo is a shell builtin $ $ unalias which $ which which /usr/bin/which $ which echo /bin/echo $ which test /bin/test So thanks for that, Carl .. > > Perhaps sh(1) could use a smarter 'which' that exposes its own builtins > > such as these two more readily - but who dares mess with sh(1) ? :) > > Interactively? Probably only the poor souls dropped into > maintenance mode (single user mode) without the ability to > start a more comfortable interactive shell... ;-) Ability? Just choose '/bin/csh' on entry, or type 'csh' once in SUM? cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 28 01:58:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E5EE57291 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2017 01:58:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay13.qsc.de (mailrelay13.qsc.de [212.99.187.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C2BC835DC for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2017 01:58:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay13.qsc.de; Sat, 28 Oct 2017 03:57:46 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-193.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.193]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C3B23CBF9; Sat, 28 Oct 2017 03:57:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v9S1vgld005188; Sat, 28 Oct 2017 03:57:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2017 03:57:42 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ian Smith Cc: Carl Johnson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A request to segregate man pages for shell built-ins Message-Id: <20171028035742.8a0e909d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20171027232555.W40402@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20171027021115.A40402@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20171026214620.bf8fcbf2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20171027232555.W40402@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay13.qsc.de with 7E5786835B3 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1515 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2017 01:58:05 -0000 On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 23:56:15 +1100 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: > On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 21:46:20 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 03:02:17 +1100 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: > > > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 699, Issue 4, Message: 3 > > > On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 15:16:47 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > [...] > > Oh, and nobody with a sane mind writes shell scripts in C Shell. > > Of course I've done it. ;-) > > Agreed, but I guess I'm not quite so insane :) For one thing, I find > csh's redirections confusing and less complete, so even interactively > I'll do things to avoid csh syntax like (as a wild example): > > % sh -c 'for i in a b c; do echo $i; sleep 2; done 2>&1 >file' Yes, rediretion is a problem, and there are more (if - then - endif, foreach, set, probably quoting issues, etc.). The C shell simply isn't that great for scripting. But under certain curcumstances and preferences, its dialog behaviour is more convenient than that of bash in its stock configuration. There is a nice article about it: "Csh Programming Considered Harmful", to be found here: https://www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk/misc/csh.html I would definitely _not_ write a script again for the C shell, but the one (!) I wrote still works, so I don't think it should be rewritten - "nyet kaputnik, nyet reparaturowka". ;-) > > > > % which echo > > > > echo: shell built-in command. > > > > > > > > $ which echo > > > > /bin/echo > > > > > > Again, despite that, echo _is_ builtin to sh(1) - and has more options. > > > > That is correct (even though sh's "which echo" reports the binary); > > sh's echo supports escape sequences using the -e option, while the > > binary doesn't. > > However, as Carl Johnson since posted: > > > 'Which' is an external for sh so it can't show builtin commands. Sh has > > the builtin 'type' command which is the equivalent of 'which' for csh. > > which was news to me. So I tried something: > > % sh > $ alias > $ type type > type is a shell builtin > $ type which > which is a tracked alias for /usr/bin/which > $ > $ alias which=type > $ which which > which is an alias for type > $ type which > which is an alias for type > $ which test > test is a shell builtin > $ which echo > echo is a shell builtin > $ > $ unalias which > $ which which > /usr/bin/which > $ which echo > /bin/echo > $ which test > /bin/test > > So thanks for that, Carl .. That's a really interesting experiment. > > > Perhaps sh(1) could use a smarter 'which' that exposes its own builtins > > > such as these two more readily - but who dares mess with sh(1) ? :) > > > > Interactively? Probably only the poor souls dropped into > > maintenance mode (single user mode) without the ability to > > start a more comfortable interactive shell... ;-) > > Ability? Just choose '/bin/csh' on entry, or type 'csh' once in SUM? In worst case, the C shell might not be available. I actually have no idea how bad it must be, but it's possible that everything you have is the "dumb" /bin/sh, and you need to deal with that. You _never_ know what strange symptoms a damaged system could expose. So dealing with "all I have is this stupid shell" is one of the skills a good system administrator should have. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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I was wondering if anyone has any specific recommendations. It will= be lightly used, at least at first. --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 28 16:41:47 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7617E47C1A for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2017 16:41:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@nethead.se) Received: from ns1.nethead.se (ns1.nethead.se [5.150.237.139]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ns1.nethead.se", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC91A74883 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2017 16:41:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@nethead.se) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at Nethead AB DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=nethead.se; s=NETHEADSE; t=1509208436; bh=PBlLE1mPVaPuulI/Evxsrw9D975iweAfMWOLIbW4w4U=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=ZF4plIQAfW+rIgA+UCdx4ggY/d2LMI+KFkRfs7gvkhZuRNNAaVd8SDc2Phxcngc6x 30dtOjVKYEeFIWvXNkoRvQNcuvHbFi0o4MF421PY9TfBmFUldl4DqQWKJo/WC6o0kZ M/Qz7SwWcqPZeeb3NqQbgdEPwP2sNe+dmIr677U0= Subject: Re: Drupal vs. Wordpress To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Per olof Ljungmark Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2017 18:33:54 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2017 16:41:48 -0000 On 2017-10-28 18:02, Carmel NY wrote: > I am going to be installing either Drupal or Wordpress on my FreeBSD 11.1 > system. I was wondering if anyone has any specific recommendations. It will be > lightly used, at least at first. > They are two very different beasts - your choice would depend on your experience from CMS's and goal - WP gets you up and running in no time, after all, it is the most used Open Source CMS by far, but if you need to build a framework for a specific purpose that requires a lot more than a simple home page there is no end to choices... many of them are in ports as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_content_management_systems Let your skills and requirements guide you. Good luck, //per