From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 27 00:37:10 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F49314B4D39 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 00:37:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 432CB7550A for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 00:37:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MQdtO-1gZiYG0TzS-00NfXy; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 01:37:06 +0100 Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 01:37:05 +0100 From: Polytropon To: JD Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless interface Message-Id: <20190127013705.3e8cd5f3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <5C4CE8B8.4030608@gmail.com> References: <20190126213957.adfeb61c.freebsd@edvax.de> <5C4CE8B8.4030608@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:mNMC2B4CUmHI/pKKINBubyRBZDUSiElqj3eXGPddofyDc7DEzYp cHjFA+C7FeA/fAWiYAO0cofCbQQhwwB4h1w7t2eWje1lTMnS3zZ58L937QTZ4KEA28vlHDY pST7obEEQaddreedO1r0lN2KbEsnGZmMdZjMxsHEWHFCYLKGf6Ifrz3GnT9Ae1ju8epyEpK gsfN6gnvVpkUGdoynNX2Q== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:qGtYeU2TtJc=:2p5Mu1mRt6ryjdCXqVoVLx fibmf2ISMIQD0WFjThRdyVEX3AAmdgRjcZsg0cXmajqJH+J4T8K0Dez7UZTVsswDozTzTlYCX A8aamuCht2YZq3CNtSZuGR7QJdnP3V8PJC5OaoRO2QcPe4BmMRDiP+jbqRGAa6M26eWwrlnrk SII2dD/7YlSsCgxgS1rp/toShDZyxjtcddNWP0GT+GXJYGgeA/EGL/9DtQ6hBVUhNm6QrxsFW wg4tUEz8QcGyL1Mpv2rONqZys1niqjG6mEx0eymHFoHwJiXTzKSZF1fHv6uZERg2fc3OsNKU3 ZfX0IvKW9vAfnemO8etvreOuGbWljl0gTJwSZOmIKEYk+iCSg09ZXWP0r/Yg4VmV6a7WHNZqG FQMGh9vE468GN4Fmh1lExszLD37ir1OA8X87j5JsPRkAYqlL9eAL76X/XT8AMYoUKwY46/Y7c 2dQDV1AbUbMEgB2cMGdZ/N/Im4xg9Q3BYHmHz7cnxn3BqVyUCHUqvtyaB+S5W67dKn0NS45xv kwnlazH40XqDLq/a92422BzN6uRCO0BI7jqjKJu7nKupujDk/dgeYDE5rMjORkHPFW+1uus2s Cjos9DrgsU+wnoCdLsXQVjoTb1IT13f+QfZBoHcaHmDI/zG2u7q0VOmM1EjghaZBT55FLBzpp vZUrvgkdsynCokjo/mQAN9rS0WuriV1RxqZj5koBBhLx7+5G//AY/KTwbpg9MS9Y6nZCI2bCj IF6zZUfdfzKjhVMlEar1HBzXjVgzmyRofUdxJvdUJKm43AUVoISYriyeyEU= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 432CB7550A X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx01.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[69.226.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.52)[0.524,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.991,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.999,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[134.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[134.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.59)[ip: (1.45), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-0.66), asn: 8560(2.18), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 00:37:10 -0000 On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 16:09:44 -0700, JD wrote: > IMHO, today, there are no OS'es available to the public, > sans backdoors, spyware and other malware. What does make you believe this is true? Taking FreeBSD as an example, in how far does it include either a backdoor, a piece of spyware, or a piece of malware? I'm explicitely _not_ talking about something that you can install afterwards, or you can be "talked into" installing. I'm also not talking about web technologies for tracking and spying, because they use the web browser and its complexity, which is comparable to the complexity of a whole OS. And I'm not talking about the means an ISP can use to track its users or modify their traffic. Regarding backdoors, considering exploitable errors (which we don't know of yet) is different from mechanisms intendedly placed into the OS to circumvent security barriers provided by the OS or added by the user. This is not a sarcastic question. I'm really asking myself (and you) why FreeBSD could _not_ be considered to be available to the public _without_ containing backdoors, spyware, or malware. Sure, as soon as you add a web browser to the mix, you can get at least the commonly accepted (!) "crap of the web" if you wish - but that's not something the OS will contain in a default installation. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 27 00:57:54 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A6114B593C for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 00:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0790D7646A for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 00:57:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N4z2a-1hD6VW1Rtk-010sXG; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 01:57:42 +0100 Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 01:57:41 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Chris Gordon Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Wireless interface Message-Id: <20190127015741.47cc32b2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <6263E0A8-BF3A-4287-A161-9DC973562A69@theory14.net> References: <6263E0A8-BF3A-4287-A161-9DC973562A69@theory14.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:pp1Er1SuP0hkjWVLWH8v6z3u9Zr/sPaQ/lLoYRdzGw4tUEZ3bZe CuK+8fe/AWMy3IpCOJiwYgjqSX10g2QIpCxMx9iuRO6BHn+ONrffh3ezw5mhygRLk2JyCc3 k1dRbuO5F85vBTjDOtTbggK1PTI5NQ4kzW460gbVK47h1D4VYx68z3rcMjoUWuigRScb+vc sJ5Q9R/ihUjTpkXeLxm0A== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:ssKL0GzyTkw=:y/lul0mpkJuyEIBBc5ifiE m1W/xjUnNGY60+xcd1I/IBdx0wlS+ITppa5uD3GA4h5K5K+jrD/RjRIX/RSYxrVEBrsG/4m3k 207E9GsRZw53POsY0PmKP63HIwTjjeWDyNbImvkvPPTI5VrBGMh4Q83eUl451zZ76ntK5ej1r 2cNj7fWtjBK8fIDSalVFAqnbd1iRghwdTULccNyEc5krWBOAkTyIhe1FDSaXBb26ODD/HdhEx L+wtUn34Dn4JmWxeaD5soxxQOwTslJzmPdAQYkk32JRflbC2foJ2blSX38T4VaMA67uC/DVpm Zd0+QNyMyeRcADulNtVC5jLzMMWUintTULf1mEokZilM66hUU73OBtr/x1c7qHoTNfA3XdQpT iZmh1Q340aYqRd8OlBWvvcTlmDMFl5El2cQOoOXlXyyWHzVUbKBEnxsc7t8TPJIwit1DnZ6aL n2ahCWCdzlOF8BW/J20Bt4Gc/x9M09JQ94EXTGUj3uo1Htv2nF3cqbR8sYRZmUiuXJes7F9cQ /PWaa4TC7WUd+jYFdzkkpUgqlzWkoV7Eu88tPoO1GDwFaTrTDRlBaLMziuANGKwEHnnCl1xbE dCy5iwfkGT2qSr5YIIIiGcD1NRg5W3DuLbIl3lUo/yUwDrKZHo2qEuZh/pkbt+vudNnvYpvDw x3h0REFj8kpnx9sgZb2yVvfVzeL5fBBqmd9RSgrXgZtjNMU32tfEAQxyulGVrIvVNRZHzbb2u f7aA8vqKJg33LNpKtnHX3bDZPJXh/0zeNRomybdXiXXz0Xseb9pfnUVzRqU= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 0790D7646A X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.96 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx01.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[69.226.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.69)[0.690,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.998,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[133.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.88)[ip: (2.89), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-0.66), asn: 8560(2.18), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 00:57:54 -0000 On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 15:28:45 -0500, Chris Gordon wrote: > I think you hit the nail on the head of comparing FreeBSD > more to Windows Server versions than the consumer desktop/laptop > systems -- I’ll call these end user systems. That is the better > analog and what I think Rob was trying to convey. Unlike "Windows", FreeBSD is a multi-purpose operating system. It can be used for platforms from embedded, laptops, regular PCs, up to big servers. It can also be utilized on "mixed forms" of those system classes. Everything is included in _one_ consistent operating system. As there is no "one size fits all egg-laying wool-milk-sow", FreeBSD can of course only be a _basis_ to be used to create such systems, more or less customized. The approach TrueOS (ex PC-BSD) took was to preconfigure FreeBSD to work as a workstation / PC / laptop environment. > Things that are valuable and desirable on a server may not be so > on an end user system and vice versa. These are two different > sets optimizations which often conflict with each other. For > instance, a GUI is most often preferred on an end user system > whereas it’s more of a liability on a server (remember that in > 2008 the “Server Core” in Windows Server 2008 finally introduced > a server sans GUI -- something UNIX has had since the 1970s... ;) ). This is correct. FreeBSD accomlishes to be multi-purpose by narrowing the OS down to the _fundamental_ tasks an OS should be able to do: install software, update and maintain it, (re)create itself, manage things. The way it does this is not entirely fixed. For example, you _could_ use GUI tools to interact with a FreeBSD server, instead of using SSH, but you could also use a web-based administration suite. FreeBSD is about choice. On the other hand, certain kinds of users will be entirely happy with what they are given. "Windows" provides a commonly accepted, not very advanced GUI, inconsistent in itself, and hard to learn for new users (especially due to missing visual clues for operations that should be trivial). Customization is limited. But if you only want to treat your PC as a worse typewriter, go to "Facebook" or watch "Youtube", it probably is entirely sufficient. For server use, the "what's good", "what's sufficient" and "what's definitely not desired" is entirely different. :-) > Now this isn’t to say you can’t use any of the particular > operating systems for either end user or server functions, > but in doing so you will need to compensate for the gap > between the primary design purpose of the system and your > use of the system. This all depends on the OS being created with the goal of being versatile in mind. If this hasn't been done correctly from the beginning, it's hard to "add things" to turn a server into a desktop or vice versa - a typical experience you can get with using "Windows". > There are plenty of people that use FreeBSD as an end user > system (and work continues to improve the experience), but > they also understand that they must bridge the gaps between > server design choices and what they want from an end user > system. This is also correct. For example, I'm using FreeBSD nearly exclusively as end user system for me and for many clients and family. It is not trivial, but in my opinion, it is definitely worth it. No more calls "The printer stopped working again!" or "I think I have been hacked!" ;-) This is a consideration that often comes down to "time is money". You buy "Windows" licenses - this is money. You support buggy "Windows" programs - this is time, which is money as well. You invest time to create a FreeBSD system for a family desktop - time = money too, but it definitely is a good investment. > If you want to use FreeBSD as an end user system, I think > the community welcomes you and is more than happy to help out. > Just understand that it may take a bit more work than something > purpose built to be purely an end user system. I think this is a very good statement. "Purpose built", for a single purpose, limited, narrowed down - sure, as a vendor of software that is in tight contact with hardware manufacturers, you can create a much better experience for the end user, because you exactly _know_, for example, the specifics of a given wireless network component in a laptop, and you can use the manufacturer's documentation and your money to create a driver for it. FreeBSD has limited resources and knowledge, and it's still a welcome surprise every time some new kind of device receives a driver that makes it possible to be used on FreeBSD. On the other hand, there is lots of hardware that stopped working on "Windows" because no more suitable drivers were provided. In today's throwaway society, this is received as something normal, and used by industry (term: "planned obsolescence") to sell stuff to the people - stuff they already have and that could still work. I'm not even talking about the immense amounts of garbage this creates... but we must accept this as "the source of wealth in our modern society", as it seems... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 27 15:35:42 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A6414B0B75 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 15:35:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x329.google.com (mail-wm1-x329.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::329]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC6836E96F for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 15:35:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm1-x329.google.com with SMTP id y139so11184665wmc.5 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 07:35:40 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=636M1vtb8xIC+MVx7PUgByqCDqh5GUdgIveGg6alFu8=; b=uBNXf6v81oyft9qoCEwkOE7DBvyANOVjW5wO7e+pqNPH5V3DAaNhjLpCrJMFp16ZKV hm3gXEhmwL7LSdfxk2opPdkxlLvPuZFmy3ajgOaKk4YhXICjYKJVH/Bj7pghEtks+OMl rJKjEgfLct96kUGR/7R7A0qKZSNy7yMMRNy93+T823NL4k2urZf1wgt+VDWFsHZHxxa7 Lk4tNqUZx4pwH0pr2gWSKRrrvEXl/eQtqbLxYJgT2FGSxT7dA1qgkv2aZ8EO4PkGn5KY A+tUnHDI7kqCjmA8Fz04guVIDSF5qX68hmRpWznRLuMLxRL//2o6LxoP+e4lPP4AUG0p E7Nw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukfFF6cHxLFfqBYPeLpfKteEbE4ObvUMqiSgl90ukQDaIDJdk58j zEeQ3V0YK7ly47zN6jRhGuCOkCc1 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN7aw4FbrJDGEv51Ms9lwVLfMXZuUI8D80jvMlnBGNraS749voHfodtztSwPoqjeSndMP3vyBQ== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:7511:: with SMTP id o17mr13613533wmc.42.1548603339375; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 07:35:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([2.121.231.29]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m13sm5065773wmd.6.2019.01.27.07.35.38 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 27 Jan 2019 07:35:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 15:35:36 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpd hangs on boot but works afterwards Message-ID: <20190127153536.0b6155aa@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: DC6836E96F X-Spamd-Bar: ------ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.66 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com,alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com,gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com,alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com,alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.949,0]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[29.231.121.2.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20161025]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-2.70)[ip: (-9.23), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.26), asn: 15169(-1.94), country: US(-0.08)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[9.2.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 15:35:42 -0000 On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 14:02:00 -0800 Scott Gasch wrote: > Hi, > > I have a system I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 12 and started getting > a weird problem with ntpd. What happens is, on boot, rc.ntpd seems > to hang requiring me to go to the console and hit ^C. It might be a problem with the network not being ready, in which case look at the netwait options listed in /etc/defaults/rc.conf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 27 15:08:59 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74EF614AF9E7 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 15:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kp@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19C316D4C5; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 15:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kp@FreeBSD.org) Received: from venus.codepro.be (venus.codepro.be [5.9.86.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.codepro.be", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: kp) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CDEAD1BFC6; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 15:08:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kp@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.228.1] (ptr-8rh08jyfpznwwhejoiy.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be [IPv6:2a02:1811:240e:402:186a:7f49:1b76:b4ea]) (Authenticated sender: kp) by venus.codepro.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6A456CCE9; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 16:08:56 +0100 (CET) From: "Kristof Provost" To: ASV Cc: "questions list" Subject: Re: PF issue since 11.2-RELEASE Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 16:08:55 +0100 X-Mailer: MailMate (2.0BETAr6135) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <989e79372513e9769c6857b531f14df8ce0b6f3a.camel@inhio.net> References: <989e79372513e9769c6857b531f14df8ce0b6f3a.camel@inhio.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 19C316D4C5 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.98 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[FreeBSD.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.984,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:2610:1c1:1::/48, country:US] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; markup=markdown Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 15:08:59 -0000 On 26 Jan 2019, at 17:00, ASV wrote: > since I've upgraded to 11.2 (from 11.1) I've observed that anytime I > change something on pf.conf and reload (pfctl -f /etc/pf.conf) I > partially loose connectivity. Partially means that I still am > connected > to the server but the server cannot connect anywhere or ping anything > (no hosts no IPs) also the jails instantly suffers from the same. That sounds like your established connection continues (because it keeps using the old rules), and something is wrong with the new rules. The logical debugging steps would be: - check the ruleset matches what you expect (pfctl -s rules) - check the state table (pfctl -s states) - use pflog to determine what rule causes traffic to be dropped > The quickest fix is to revert the PF configuration to the previous one > and reload. Everything starts working again. > What do you mean by ‘previous one’? Do you have two rulesets? What are the two rulesets? > I've been trying to find the root cause of this without success. Did I > miss some major change on the PF port on FreeBSD? I've never seen this > serious issue before nor on FreeBSD neither on OpenBSD. It’s very difficult to debug this with the extremely limited information you’ve included. Please post, at the very least, your pf ruleset and a full description of what you’re doing when things break and how you recover. Regards, Kristof From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 27 15:39:31 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7D614B0DCD for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 15:39:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0826EBA5 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 15:39:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from [10.0.0.5] (adsl-108-68-160-150.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net [108.68.160.150]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66A8718054 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 13:23:22 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Wireless interface To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 13:23:22 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 0D0826EBA5 X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=fail reason="" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.43 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.23)[-0.227,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.64)[0.643,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.08)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.94)[0.936,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[kicp.uchicago.edu]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 15:39:31 -0000 On 1/26/19 12:50 PM, Carmel NY wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 09:54:05 -0600, Rob Belics stated: > >>> It is situations like this that make me love >>> Microsoft. Connecting a wireless network should not require user >>> intervention other than choosing the network and entering the >>> password. >> >> FreeBSD is not a consumer operating system. It's not designed to hand >> hold anyone. That is why Windows is such a huge monstrosity of an >> install. > > I just finished a fresh install of Windows 10. If you take the time > involved in installing a basic MS Windows system vs. a basic FreeBSD > system, Windows will usually win. A big plus is that Windows actually > can get a wireless system up and running by itself, sans perhaps > supplying the password. Does FreeBSD even support using the WPS Button > on the Wi-Fi Router? Plus, you then have to install a GUI. Now, if you > want to compare a FreeBSD system sans GUI, you have to compare it > against a MS Server, not the regular Windows version design for home or > office users. > > This is not about "hand-holding"; it is about bring the OS into the > modern age. My machine is supposed to be my slave, not the other way > around. Just a small comment on neither side, hopefully. As one clever man said, you will pay, one way or another. With MS Windows system you will pay money for using it. You will also pay money for using 3rd party software - antivirus. MS is the only system vendor I know of who explicitly tells you it is not safe to use their system without 3rd party software (antivirus). With FreeBSD you will pay with your time. You will need some effort requiring some learning to install system, software, and make all work. You will need some effort to plan ahead before purchasing your machine to avid really ugly hardware (Broadcom BCM43xx is example of really ugly one, search about its design; something like 32 bit chip on 64 bit bus may ring the bell; - to the contrary to their great ethernet chips). But once you have everything working, FreeBSD is great, not bloated as majority Linuxes became recently. One more alternative: Linux, and if you have chunks of hardware that need proprietary (binary only, etc) drives ("microcode", "firmware"), great choice would be Ubuntu, which is clone of Debian (the last is great Linux distro staying away from proprietary stuff). With Linux (read: Ubunty), you virtually don't need to invest your time, all will work pretty much out of the box, and you will have less bloated, and definitely more secure system than MS Windows, ("fatter" than FreeBSD would be though). So, one can find what fits one's needs; and each of us can pay credit to one's own choice of system vendor, without ranting about other people system choices ;-) Just my $0.02 Valeri > > Thanks for your comment anyway. > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 27 17:14:44 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1387214B558B for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 17:14:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115887348D for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 17:14:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from [10.0.0.5] (adsl-108-68-160-150.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net [108.68.160.150]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A27718054 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 11:14:40 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Wireless interface To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190126213957.adfeb61c.freebsd@edvax.de> <5C4CE8B8.4030608@gmail.com> <20190127013705.3e8cd5f3.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 11:14:40 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190127013705.3e8cd5f3.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 115887348D X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=fail reason="" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.21 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.20)[-0.202,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.64)[0.636,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.08)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.70)[0.701,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: kicp.uchicago.edu]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 17:14:44 -0000 On 1/26/19 6:37 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 16:09:44 -0700, JD wrote: >> IMHO, today, there are no OS'es available to the public, >> sans backdoors, spyware and other malware. > > What does make you believe this is true? > > Taking FreeBSD as an example, in how far does it include > either a backdoor, a piece of spyware, or a piece of > malware? > > I'm explicitely _not_ talking about something that you > can install afterwards, or you can be "talked into" > installing. I'm also not talking about web technologies > for tracking and spying, because they use the web browser > and its complexity, which is comparable to the complexity > of a whole OS. And I'm not talking about the means an ISP > can use to track its users or modify their traffic. > Regarding backdoors, considering exploitable errors > (which we don't know of yet) is different from mechanisms > intendedly placed into the OS to circumvent security > barriers provided by the OS or added by the user. > > This is not a sarcastic question. I'm really asking > myself (and you) why FreeBSD could _not_ be considered > to be available to the public _without_ containing > backdoors, spyware, or malware. I 100% agree with Polytropon, and would just add one simple point: FreeBSD is open source system. Everyone in the World can (and some/many do) go and audit the code for backdoors and/or vulnerabilities. This significantly adds to the point that there are none, and it is hard to introduce one that will not be noticed by anyone. To the contrary to proprietary systems which not only hide the source, but also will do all to put you in jail if you reverse engineer (disassemble) their binary code and attempt to publicize spy part if you discover one. Just to mention one example: google's android system. It is _based_ on open source kernel, but has closed source proprietary chunk in it. So, you can re-consider your trust to your android smartphone (if you ever had one). Of course we all learned mathematics, and logically it is difficult to prove FreeBSD does not have malicious code. However for those who claim an opposite: that FreeBSD does have malicious code in it, it is very easy to prove their point. It is sufficient to point to one of them. If one can not point even to single malicious chunk in FreeBSD, one shouldn't insist there is one. Just my $0.02 Valeri > > Sure, as soon as you add a web browser to the mix, you > can get at least the commonly accepted (!) "crap of the > web" if you wish - but that's not something the OS will > contain in a default installation. :-) > > > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 27 18:03:59 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48FE714B6B1F for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 18:03:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asv@inhio.net) Received: from cz-prg-mx-01.inhio.net (mail.inhio.net [178.238.36.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB2A7535F; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 18:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asv@inhio.net) Received: from titanio (titanio.inhio.net [10.0.0.21]) by cz-prg-mx-01.inhio.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 67A9C20AFC; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 19:03:45 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: Subject: Re: PF issue since 11.2-RELEASE From: ASV To: Kristof Provost Cc: questions list Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 19:03:40 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <989e79372513e9769c6857b531f14df8ce0b6f3a.camel@inhio.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-04pZx59WfHo0ykabVCoo" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: CBB2A7535F X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of asv@inhio.net designates 178.238.36.226 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=asv@inhio.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.89 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[inhio.net]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.91)[0.914,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(0.01)[country: CZ(0.04)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.inhio.net]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24971, ipnet:178.238.32.0/20, country:CZ]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 18:03:59 -0000 --=-04pZx59WfHo0ykabVCoo Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2019-01-27 at 16:08 +0100, Kristof Provost wrote: > On 26 Jan 2019, at 17:00, ASV wrote: > > since I've upgraded to 11.2 (from 11.1) I've observed that anytime > > I > > change something on pf.conf and reload (pfctl -f /etc/pf.conf) I > > partially loose connectivity. Partially means that I still am=20 > > connected > > to the server but the server cannot connect anywhere or ping > > anything > > (no hosts no IPs) also the jails instantly suffers from the same. >=20 > That sounds like your established connection continues (because it > keeps=20 > using the old rules), and something is wrong with the new rules. Hi and thanks for your reply! This is not the case as I'm modifying NAT rules so I'm not expecting anything to start being blocked but the reverse. =20 > The logical debugging steps would be: > - check the ruleset matches what you expect (pfctl -s rules) > - check the state table (pfctl -s states) > - use pflog to determine what rule causes traffic to be dropped >=20 > > The quickest fix is to revert the PF configuration to the previous > > one > > and reload. Everything starts working again. > >=20 >=20 > What do you mean by =E2=80=98previous one=E2=80=99? Do you have two rules= ets? What=20 > are the two rulesets? The configuration hasn't been changed in ages and when I need to upgrade the ports of a couple of jails which are NOT routed to the internet I simply un-comment few NAT lines and reload the pf conf. I've been doing this specific action for almost 7 years, never a problem. Therefore there is no problem in the rules. For previous ruleset I mean that since the jails start losing connectivity (as long as I "push" the new ruleset) with internet and with each other, I re-comment these lines and reload. Sometime it works sometime it doesn't and I need to: service pf restart which obviously forces me to re-login. > > I've been trying to find the root cause of this without success. > > Did I > > miss some major change on the PF port on FreeBSD? I've never seen > > this > > serious issue before nor on FreeBSD neither on OpenBSD. >=20 > It=E2=80=99s very difficult to debug this with the extremely limited=20 > information you=E2=80=99ve included. > Please post, at the very least, your pf ruleset and a full > description=20 > of what you=E2=80=99re doing when things break and how you recover. #nat on $ext_if from $SRV01 to any -> ($ext_if:0) #nat on $ext_if from $SRV02 to any -> ($ext_if:0) #nat on $ext_if from $SRV03 to any -> ($ext_if:0) not much really. But the same happens with other rules. Basically whatever I modify there now requires a full pf restart, which is not very practical as it kicks me out. I'm also having plenty of issues using fail2ban, just to mention another as it is somehow related (even though a broader topic), where rules are in place but aren't enforced. # pfctl -a f2b/asterisk-udp -t f2b-asterisk-udp -Ts # pfctl -a f2b/asterisk-udp -t f2b-asterisk-udp -s rules block drop quick proto udp from to any port =3D sip block drop quick proto udp from to any port =3D sip-tls then killing the state (if any) and check: # pfctl -k ; tcpdump udp -nettt -i pflog0 port 5060 = and host killed 1 states from 1 sources and 0 destinations tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on pflog0, link-type PFLOG (OpenBSD pflog file), capture size 262= 144 bytes 00:00:00.000000 rule 24/0(match): pass in on lagg0: = .6175 > .5060: SIP: REGISTER sip: SIP= /2.0 =20 00:01:07.344401 rule 24/0(match): pass in on lagg0: = .6115 > .5060: SIP: REGISTER sip: SIP= /2.0 =20 00:00:39.690851 rule 24/0(match): pass in on lagg0: = .6158 > .5060: SIP: REGISTER sip: SIP= /2.0 =20 00:00:43.058753 rule 24/0(match): pass in on lagg0: = .6179 > .5060: SIP: REGISTER sip: SIP= /2.0 =20 00:00:43.912680 rule 24/0(match): pass in on lagg0: = .6119 > .5060: SIP: REGISTER sip: SIP= /2.0 it is clearly not enforcing the rules. > Regards, > Kristof > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=-04pZx59WfHo0ykabVCoo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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With MS > Windows system you will pay money for using it. You will also pay > money for using 3rd party software - antivirus. MS is the only > system vendor I know of who explicitly tells you it is not safe to > use their system without 3rd party software (antivirus). A "free for personal use" edition of one of the well-known antivirus products was the first thing I installed on my Windows 10 systen after the OS itself. Elapsed time less then five minutes, and it auto-updates. While this system sits behind a FreeBSD gateway that provides limited firewall/anti-virus protection, it's been running for over a year - including browsing and e-mail - with no apparent problems. Is there something I am perhaps unaware of? Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 27 18:37:24 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E40414B7F21 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 18:37:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C579076786 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 18:37:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1548614244; x=1551206244; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=cWqtegokI72ovB1/EZim3on7TcRO0oQIgOQW3b8X5oU=; b=OGvhKvC94mL2wLjg6JPMWAlMotaerjdWwCyzlNN5lSv7zNx1raZ65H6oJw8ELHZ5Vd1X6PiPL7feXq37Q9sNfW5/Ko3DQnSB4kskzN2Y0tvnAYH8AoU0nNOOjURDpNcCYoAcmXcRSVMmNUfJ3TVEgwfmTdxLyasHwCt10MbeFhk= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xYTMwMDAwMDE3OTY1NzYuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r3.sg.in.socketlabs.com (r3.sg.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.179.13]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 13:37:11 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r3.sg.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 27 Jan 2019 13:37:10 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gnpIq-000GUD-KC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 18:37:08 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 18:37:08 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless interface Message-Id: <20190127183708.4fe3a2e8eb11a8b224d73ef2@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <23629.62237.774384.921659@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <23629.62237.774384.921659@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C579076786 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=OGvhKvC9; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.21 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mxbh.socketlabs.com,mxbsg.socketlabs.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.01)[-0.012,0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.23)[ip: (-0.57), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(-0.28), asn: 7381(-0.22), country: US(-0.08)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.96)[-0.961,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.993,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 18:37:24 -0000 On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 13:06:21 -0500 Robert Huff wrote: > > Valeri Galtsev writes: > > > As one clever man said, you will pay, one way or another. With MS > > Windows system you will pay money for using it. You will also pay > > money for using 3rd party software - antivirus. MS is the only > > system vendor I know of who explicitly tells you it is not safe to > > use their system without 3rd party software (antivirus). > > A "free for personal use" edition of one of the well-known > antivirus products was the first thing I installed on my Windows 10 > systen after the OS itself. Elapsed time less then five minutes, and > it auto-updates. ISTR reading a claim that the average time to infect an unprotected Windows machine directly connected with an unfiltered public IP address was rather less than that. Paranoid people (like many IT departments) set up PCs with standardised images (with preconfigured firewalls, antivirus etc.) on an isolated network containing only the bootstrapping service - really paranoid people set them up by preparing a hard disc in such an environment and installing it in the PC before it's ever connected to the internet. > While this system sits behind a FreeBSD gateway that provides > limited firewall/anti-virus protection, it's been running for over a That provides quite a lot if the rest of the LAN is known to be clean. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 27 18:51:04 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E831614B8534 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 18:51:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B7476DA8 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 18:51:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from [10.0.0.5] (adsl-108-68-160-150.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net [108.68.160.150]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A68718054; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 12:51:00 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Wireless interface To: Robert Huff Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <23629.62237.774384.921659@jerusalem.litteratus.org> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 12:51:00 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <23629.62237.774384.921659@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 77B7476DA8 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=fail reason="" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.27 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.31)[-0.314,0]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.79)[0.795,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.82)[-0.822,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.08)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: kicp.uchicago.edu]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 18:51:04 -0000 On 1/27/19 12:06 PM, Robert Huff wrote: > > Valeri Galtsev writes: > >> As one clever man said, you will pay, one way or another. With MS >> Windows system you will pay money for using it. You will also pay >> money for using 3rd party software - antivirus. MS is the only >> system vendor I know of who explicitly tells you it is not safe to >> use their system without 3rd party software (antivirus). > > A "free for personal use" edition of one of the well-known > antivirus products was the first thing I installed on my Windows 10 > systen after the OS itself. Elapsed time less then five minutes, and > it auto-updates. I recommend free.avg.com for home users (they allow one instance free per household). I recommend to stay away from kaspersky for obvious reasons (Karpersky is KGB guy; is not was, there is no was in that line of work). Just my $0.02 Valeri > While this system sits behind a FreeBSD gateway that provides > limited firewall/anti-virus protection, it's been running for over a > year - including browsing and e-mail - with no apparent problems. > Is there something I am perhaps unaware of? > > > Respectfully, > > > Robert Huff > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 27 19:40:49 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA0A14BA746 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 19:40:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AD9A81535 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 19:40:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MrPRB-1hZ2mf1Rot-00oYYw; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 20:35:26 +0100 Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 20:35:25 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Valeri Galtsev Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless interface Message-Id: <20190127203525.0d7cf203.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:+XUEXB66y7kMzhNfQtOrBBBADSFa6PQDGUt6eJhVVV7wJxsSu6K BK0xpxm/B4KiD4d3dSiKqINnx2KCStj2G3RdjRCAeFJpY+bCwsnWoBj5jlJYh0l+mwEiGOa 6NdvZy9FhMEQRgBERFYVf4blP5DfOaWq05PlBCdVI1ReuNz6rSr+zqn8CnIjY4TiBbKoe6U L/QfUbskTbwchoN0WboKA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:qIhD4iKuuYs=:Zq7AH3+J10/JBBG2ot9yNO 46L9cc8mysOgivA6dnXpMmZzXDi/qsSSMkM8zgPmHxMZF2+86tpz6e1+vJoh5iy6Qy3lQvAu5 Kj6YGfKUhkDu5W/VcY6PgTCmCSCUvktUYEpayLvvge669lT1Z4pHgw+HMBFndw88zco7+BU9W tQ+aGXNIdnr0miQalgN1OeYQqrvfWOvgbMrinur8RorOCu8UVD4RxHLaPKRvdMq7q6R7seRnh 97W3kSq1KL5RbVgQ0+vXqf1eD2XLAx+hALUx3QM6EWjaWdUx6eJ4W8RsJA6djrWezgCsfzPtA Bfhrsx1c106OMMakiYG0F9+RaSrLZs5diqcgfvfR/sQdxXpS9y4to9m8EESdICfbB6ZvLaUIE PtTIlvMF71YsYKkJEIV35QBEiogKG4Tl1B5uX7P6PJe6v3K0YFnrrRL6Wy8wEVKHixbioW48B QjAqvcnIqE9kFlkm+JrN6OL3Hd6RRfcggwkJUFQRZC03RmgFbzBb5m9EyOA63/w4WHQnSlyAR B4pQqNV8oiG6ogqv9JZR3/4GpRNyTFL9fhSAO71glxmuWWyboz1V3syMOim8aGMm82VzwQDZO hvltaBtd8HomY5lfa9iaNrBhcjXPzj7qsuI3jUS5jt8SmNdHH2vBLBfUl+OeVkgwcXfgzBOQ1 jNZk1D2ibCOjH6SAozIEXPayz1I2dcAjIRS4jKjGZEUGNAdSmgYte/197qCna9yA3/M3VshsZ bCP8N6bD5MMjgeMsyN7Tk49EdTNNa9KR9sdhn42m9YjJe/sa91tD3ashKRA= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5AD9A81535 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.65 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx01.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[69.226.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.97)[0.968,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.95)[0.954,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.992,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[73.192.72.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.34)[ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(-0.46), asn: 8560(2.17), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 19:40:49 -0000 On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 13:23:22 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > On 1/26/19 12:50 PM, Carmel NY wrote: > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 09:54:05 -0600, Rob Belics stated: > > > >>> It is situations like this that make me love > >>> Microsoft. Connecting a wireless network should not require user > >>> intervention other than choosing the network and entering the > >>> password. > >> > >> FreeBSD is not a consumer operating system. It's not designed to hand > >> hold anyone. That is why Windows is such a huge monstrosity of an > >> install. > > > > I just finished a fresh install of Windows 10. If you take the time > > involved in installing a basic MS Windows system vs. a basic FreeBSD > > system, Windows will usually win. A big plus is that Windows actually > > can get a wireless system up and running by itself, sans perhaps > > supplying the password. Does FreeBSD even support using the WPS Button > > on the Wi-Fi Router? Plus, you then have to install a GUI. Now, if you > > want to compare a FreeBSD system sans GUI, you have to compare it > > against a MS Server, not the regular Windows version design for home or > > office users. > > > > This is not about "hand-holding"; it is about bring the OS into the > > modern age. My machine is supposed to be my slave, not the other way > > around. > > Just a small comment on neither side, hopefully. > > As one clever man said, you will pay, one way or another. With MS > Windows system you will pay money for using it. You will also pay money > for using 3rd party software - antivirus. MS is the only system vendor I > know of who explicitly tells you it is not safe to use their system > without 3rd party software (antivirus). This is interesting. Established security research has shown and proven (!) that especially virus software (it's hard to call them "antivirus" today) is in fact increasing the attack surface of a "Windows" system. Common suggestions are to stay with the software provided by "Windows" itself and _not_ install additional and interfering virus software - or has this changed again? So or so, you pay with time and/or money. Buying virus software seems to be futile, as the one you already paid for (as it comes with "Windows") isn't any worse or better than what you can add by investing additional money. > With FreeBSD you will pay with your time. You will need some effort > requiring some learning to install system, software, and make all work. You will also need to invest time into learning "Windows", either if you haven't been exposed to it before, or because you need to unlearn what you knew from previous "Windows" vesions (things that are very different now) or from different GUI-based systems (such as Linux with an IDE). > You will need some effort to plan ahead before purchasing your machine > to avid really ugly hardware (Broadcom BCM43xx is example of really ugly > one, search about its design; something like 32 bit chip on 64 bit bus > may ring the bell; - to the contrary to their great ethernet chips). But > once you have everything working, FreeBSD is great, not bloated as > majority Linuxes became recently. Additionally, you can achieve to get a system that will run reliably for a long time, one that is "good for a long time", instead of something that claims to be "the best at the moment" / "state of the art" which will be out of support after a year or so - and no further way to keep i running because a 3rd party "update server" has been shut down, or software problems won't be fixed because there's already a newer system available which you will be urged to purchase. System updates are very important. That's why taking system control out of the hands of the end users, as "Windows" does it, isn't entirely bad. Forced updates make sure that Internet-connected systems don't stay unpatched for years, running spam mail servers or botnets. Sure, it's not a PC, a _personal_ computer anymore, as someone else is in control, but people don't want to be in control, so this is a win-win for everyone. Corporate "Windows" installations are quite different, as they allow administrative access to how and when updates will be rolled out to the individual computers. There are guidelines, policies, and customs that say things like "We don't do the updates, we will test them first, _then_ roll them out", or "We don't do any updates at all, because if we'd do them, our software would break". This might be a reason why so many botnets actually appear on large business installations. ;-) > One more alternative: Linux, and if you have chunks of hardware that > need proprietary (binary only, etc) drives ("microcode", "firmware"), > great choice would be Ubuntu, which is clone of Debian (the last is > great Linux distro staying away from proprietary stuff). With Linux > (read: Ubunty), you virtually don't need to invest your time, all will > work pretty much out of the box, and you will have less bloated, and > definitely more secure system than MS Windows, ("fatter" than FreeBSD > would be though). Definitely true. Today Linux is the operating system (family) that has the best hardware support, i. e., the one that supports the most hardware components. Not even "Windows" can do that. Sure, especially with the most recent hardware where only closed source drivers are available for "Windows", this is a problem, but Linux quickly catches up, and you can soon use current technology, easier than with "Windows", and longer (!) than with "Windows" (see my example of working printers being not supported anymore). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 27 19:47:49 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F06B14BAA4E for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 19:47:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56CCC81923 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 19:47:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MqrsF-1hahos2dwP-00mtEq; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 20:47:43 +0100 Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 20:47:42 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Valeri Galtsev Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless interface Message-Id: <20190127204742.f558599b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20190126213957.adfeb61c.freebsd@edvax.de> <5C4CE8B8.4030608@gmail.com> <20190127013705.3e8cd5f3.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:aegzpcRSMK5BI1stwZSEguK2fdJttAB6gPbluKNFD7pf8OgoUyb zBxS4itBvw23tAc1XBIvFbBlN4FpOKcVOu8uVbyV0J2bxL3F21vXucnSIQcgyqyBYigggEi 1SbNzX4Gdxmer1TmbNltnqWpfOlMVvYEdeu6SfHmZ+YiGGJ3qSEHqntEM11kkXN7F9kxsGb UWb6M4jq08HTvLkRwMbZg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:pdNsJGRXmE8=:4Da8y1AZBNA6uul7H2NIqd gIylPbOKaTxDCQKcMSI9SbVMX+/qCzYSLgWykMNfolk1Doo5A9fyLv5Z+AiwJmurIdBGYUmaB BP2Rxvj7Bn5AUmR1dfNFhawbIAazEoe9qI6hgRafuoAUIJu0+AQ4lF9FrDnz3jzPMgSQ7a5YA 7b8CZyOl9Phka6AcVHc3D0CEpcwpfx9feMt2JTcN+OrhygO9nfWQVLzN1y9HsmXs39Yl5fv/M eqNRkk/cdLrQ6Zv4/S1ZcXDI73jcYyzFNkMciyNfDRvhndugdFsX+sPkwEHEJkNSCkaLWWOpM jvx5FvJZuZYdrYuajdrbQUgYW/raFECHIOapWl64tjunNcQO0aDHTz2Wg1PpAKTYTScIoZi4F KlInIXoTaDPG8/Fmzez0VGfkd599HOIEtLqxL3B0xCYHzwB1Q8+GLfzw5BkizuzoNU+smraWl 9LLLED7els1hL8GFi3ODcnvF4Ek2lR4s9Khi+pEF7yBzePJOdByyFlJKGXsI7Hbkpne+a0HjF FhKMiq5hW93YryOL6RjiAt8xkpRz32qLpaoIjQGJpKDt6x9gDYn7ZRD2OX1QNmTdoWbT7/cgX g/OuDYAfNGIoYMJOfouPHxP21v/VXbRmWmZeOIeAm8Wp+SUTaWoniexJlH2hQTpo2NdjZO/x2 z/Nf+s2CJdf/ivnh05P2iaL2dPR6p2w0i0d/O2q+/UouTJ1TWvAiOwyYKxVvmB3csfg2xuQui gLgLdCNmklJGsVxxqgFiUuDWrJhvgGaD5rFvzoRP26Hs8SvNLqVlxEp+OXA= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 56CCC81923 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.21 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx01.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[69.226.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.84)[0.836,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.36)[0.362,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.65)[0.654,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[73.192.72.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-0.03)[ip: (-1.85), ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(-0.45), asn: 8560(2.17), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 19:47:49 -0000 On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 11:14:40 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > I 100% agree with Polytropon, and would just add one simple point: > FreeBSD is open source system. Everyone in the World can (and some/many > do) go and audit the code for backdoors and/or vulnerabilities. It's not that the code of "Windows" or closes-source programs in general won't be audited. But this process is not public. Auditors have to sign an NDA, and there usually is no real indication of _that_ they performed an audit, and _what_ they found out. The primary reason is "trade secret". We know that "security by obscurity" just doesn't work. :-) You need to have trust both in the makers of the software and in the auditors. You cannot buy trust. And especially when they didn't properly do their normal work, and then "surprisingly" something happened, and the public got knowledge about it - instead of admitting the mistakes, adjusting their processes accordingly, and tried to do better next time, they increase prices and shove money into more aggressive marketing and ads, _then_ you know exactly what their priorities are, even though their web site claims "we value your privacy" or "we care for our customers"... Oh, and people still give them money. It's far easier if it's tax payers' money, so no more annoying questions. :-) > To the contrary to > proprietary systems which not only hide the source, but also will do all > to put you in jail if you reverse engineer (disassemble) their binary > code and attempt to publicize spy part if you discover one. On the other hand, there is a market for especially 0days which governments and their spy agencies are interested in. Law also mandates or at least encourages backdoors and bypasses, so if a company wants to do business in a given country, they will surely follow those... suggestions... > Of course we all learned mathematics, and logically it is difficult to > prove FreeBSD does not have malicious code. However for those who claim > an opposite: that FreeBSD does have malicious code in it, it is very > easy to prove their point. It is sufficient to point to one of them. If > one can not point even to single malicious chunk in FreeBSD, one > shouldn't insist there is one. It's also a fact that just because you pay money, you don't get good software, where "good" means about every aspect that one can be interested in: reliable, fast, secure, maintainable, and so on. You can find similar problems everywhere where software plays a significant role, not just PCs, but also appliances, NAS, routers, switches, WLAN modems. Manufacturers don't care because of three reasons: 1. "Good" (see above) costs money. Especially security does not generate an immediate gain, but is expensive to do right. 2. There is an EULA ("you sign by switching on" or "you agree by opening the box") that delegates all risks and troubles to the user - and far far away from the manufacturer. 3. The customer already handed over the money, so what? Brand NAS with hardcoded password bypass, anyone? ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 27 20:34:36 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0508414BBD8C for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 20:34:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3996283D59 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 20:34:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from [10.0.0.5] (adsl-108-68-160-150.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net [108.68.160.150]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECBF718061; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 14:34:28 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Wireless interface To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190127203525.0d7cf203.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <4489c4d3-fd97-6a58-8d56-6b9bceab5273@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 14:34:27 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190127203525.0d7cf203.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 3996283D59 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=fail reason="" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.43 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.79)[0.792,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.70)[-0.700,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.08)]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.26)[0.265,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: kicp.uchicago.edu]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 20:34:36 -0000 On 1/27/19 1:35 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 13:23:22 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> > >> With FreeBSD you will pay with your time. You will need some effort >> requiring some learning to install system, software, and make all work. > > You will also need to invest time into learning "Windows", > either if you haven't been exposed to it before, or because > you need to unlearn what you knew from previous "Windows" > vesions (things that are very different now) or from different > GUI-based systems (such as Linux with an IDE). > Very true. The following is what I usually tell my Windows users when I help them. INUX sysadmins usually can deal with any system, including MS Windows. Actually, everybody can administer MS Windows (not server, desktop/laptop version). However, Microsoft with every system release, renames and reshuffles yet the same administration tools (almost true). Windows admins learn that by heart (and that is part of their Certification, probably), and when they deal with your system they look just brilliant. But you and I can do that too, it just takes us some effort to find yet the same tools we used on older system, wherever they are "hidden" on this new system. This all is truth (almost), and it actually helps my users to feel that they are still on the solid ground as they were with previous MS Windows system. Valeri -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 27 21:46:07 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E5D14BEED2 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 21:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41A7B88993 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 21:46:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1548625566; x=1551217566; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=0l39fn5JRnSlZGibykE8U8crDhlImgRQmQdabnjJ3cA=; b=kbr6jW+i44F1//t5EcCoewualsX6CrwLiMJBTvLlVMi3tvIIR96v8k/fmj5nIU4byauNZTCNvF76HxI23MSprWlgtwj3V32rgdE0lE9vq/vMRKNIOUPYn0IuRtyZ2Hjr2WLi+6UAd4dpaNmTLe95n0MYn7eK3sNe7nT5+8ZLCHM= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xYTMwMDAwMDE3YTQ4M2UuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r4.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r4.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com [52.5.202.82]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 27 Jan 2019 16:45:54 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r4.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 27 Jan 2019 16:45:54 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gnsFU-000HIh-Lu for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 21:45:52 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 21:45:52 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless interface Message-Id: <20190127214552.2f7adbe02271314b56a3e7c0@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <4489c4d3-fd97-6a58-8d56-6b9bceab5273@kicp.uchicago.edu> References: <20190127203525.0d7cf203.freebsd@edvax.de> <4489c4d3-fd97-6a58-8d56-6b9bceab5273@kicp.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 41A7B88993 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=kbr6jW+i; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.39 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mxbh.socketlabs.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.19)[-0.189,0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.23)[ip: (-0.57), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(-0.28), asn: 7381(-0.22), country: US(-0.08)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.967,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.994,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 21:46:07 -0000 On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 14:34:27 -0600 Valeri Galtsev wrote: > Windows admins learn that by heart (and that is part of their > Certification, probably) I think it is reasonable that anyone who deals with administrating Windows should be certified. You'd have to be mad to want to do it. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 27 22:43:45 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99EF614C0179 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 22:43:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21ECE8A3AB for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 22:43:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from [10.0.0.5] (adsl-108-68-160-150.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net [108.68.160.150]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573F1718072 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 16:43:42 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Wireless interface To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190127203525.0d7cf203.freebsd@edvax.de> <4489c4d3-fd97-6a58-8d56-6b9bceab5273@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20190127214552.2f7adbe02271314b56a3e7c0@sohara.org> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 16:43:41 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190127214552.2f7adbe02271314b56a3e7c0@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 21ECE8A3AB X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=fail reason="" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.38 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.20)[-0.197,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.61)[0.608,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.08)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.89)[0.893,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: kicp.uchicago.edu]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 22:43:45 -0000 On 1/27/19 3:45 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 14:34:27 -0600 > Valeri Galtsev wrote: > >> Windows admins learn that by heart (and that is part of their >> Certification, probably) > > I think it is reasonable that anyone who deals with administrating > Windows should be certified. > > You'd have to be mad to want to do it. > I like it. Certified by psychiatrist that he is sane? Humor aside, I have learned several things related to Windows from my friend who is Windows sysadmin. Great guy, and brilliant, BTW -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 28 02:50:58 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3393D14C6593 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 02:50:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E25876BE79 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 02:50:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x0S2n1Si052553 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2019 19:49:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) From: Gary Aitken Subject: gpart volume names in /dev? Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 19:48:02 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Sun, 27 Jan 2019 19:49:01 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E25876BE79 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.82 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[nightmare.dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.21)[-0.209,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; IP_SCORE(-3.30)[ip: (-8.64), ipnet: 66.109.128.0/19(-4.32), asn: 21947(-3.45), country: US(-0.08)]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 02:50:58 -0000 Once upon a time on a 10.3 system I had entries in /dev corresponding to gpart labels. e.g. ada1p2 was listed as hdd-1TB-root. I was then able to use those names in fstab, which was handy because I think fstab would still work even if the drives were connected differently. How does one get gpart labels to show up in /dev? Can I simply list the label as /dev/hdd-1TB-root (in the above example) in fstab and it will happen automagically? Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 28 03:15:01 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E0514C7436 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 03:15:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic305-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic305-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.177.83]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 436C66D6F0 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 03:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: sEwvQpMVM1nPLWg2KmWJdfvXuHdlzCTTYxegMvGxITdSn7x7JjxhqWov9b.bdiM cPdQlNgk3cZUcq_SJ10KB6CDNVIH_LmcBLKHgF78yYcCjIgRNP.bJSxa_MGUHunaxGJQxAgkpLoR UMqFivb.7Q_X2Rjf0PQ1pydC6N0zysU64fSf4J678mE.MwPu1o2GwlQhanB12gobK3A0Avb7qrk9 7rEGflsEvwm4wOUdrSZD5GbYYQt6qodXFpA49RZVk26.XF1GNzi4D2tvM9pEtDZkHIHoPzgLHEld 2RyKC3JGlsOwwUVcjlnwXNE4ejRroL8QKjvniF6KBfDFhYf2VS3OdQcjXLy53VtC4RTaXnWn70y8 w1QTSXaUcGNZdKCWo1pEFkYT.aEZwkNNU3TdCyI.jscPPieV7dPqOhUdlYYe2lXMyR9INBkuuRL7 DzbkUk0caIdag8hmKawquvug.yNTz6JFAIGkOOZTRquRQN3bTJs0rX0ST9twkKvOaWT_oNRw9fTP fCrgrKYLose3OjP.AV.IjLzm65V8eWaAu9uzNkEt6fSeGi_AfPX70voTwcD3t74Jrf2AfYK2Un56 h77027uGM0ClsUGa45BKbYeNJNS0SKH8x6ST5acXW.ZpzlUnUnXOv.170XgRzHxy10JYZ2Naikol hCTDpY0PeVnpo4O0RCyMlbl84c1rQLXrw1VA6KutAk6lM.MhuKLSBzmFmVxXqheWJYFxs67Si59w a5OVmcaOis44wbDM0UDUNEJT_ZwLy.UDaUWT.l1Mp1i3dhrgk6icrel9lFpxgHXT4Y1B7YFzEsgp bVMxSOzTKa3.Z51KRaV.X08DafvwAAkZ1EfpFz6o6gi0j3XTnDS6kgla0rg3eF7QbzUdyCwRkdtT h7Sk1EgEcC0sothmW2Q5ShYEosOuiuzrpQqReEnRS172_.F4Lgzd3EGTD_cPN7C0RzcTSFT7Wz3Y TY1rk1Dy5_DUTgzw6I0sh5AEcS55mlPvbevBKvI2_ja6LY7aMfw_XIdrTQOy8lvBVLpWRadJaJy. 43IEYUcaJ0BaqKqB7MU60UdNvUTOJQel33gzBdmXLME2X2aepHHckPAFmLzEXxM97FK8C Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic305.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 03:14:52 +0000 Received: from x5d84919f.dyn.telefonica.de (EHLO archlinux) ([93.132.145.159]) by smtp409.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 9e5b06e3de6ede64a3349fc45b909efc for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 03:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 04:14:47 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gpart volume names in /dev? 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I was then >able to use those names in fstab, which was handy because I think fstab >would still work even if the drives were connected differently. > >How does one get gpart labels to show up in /dev? >Can I simply list the label as /dev/hdd-1TB-root (in the above example) >in fstab and it will happen automagically? > >Thanks, > >Gary Google: freebsd fstab label First hit: 18.7. Labeling Disk Devices - FreeBSD https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/geom-glabel.html A better solution is to use glabel to label the disk devices and use the labels in /etc/fstab . Because glabel stores the label in the last sector of a given provider, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 28 03:59:55 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3859214C845F for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 03:59:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.74]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC85A6ECE4 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 03:59:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MxDck-1h7oK60d9E-00xcMl; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 04:59:34 +0100 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 04:59:31 +0100 From: Polytropon To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: gpart volume names in /dev? 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I was then > able to use those names in fstab, which was handy because I think fstab > would still work even if the drives were connected differently. This is correct. > How does one get gpart labels to show up in /dev? They should show up automatically as soon as a drive's partitions have been labeled. When such a partition gets mounted, the label file in /dev will disappear, this is completely normal. I'm not sure, but maybe even if you use the device name for mounting, the label could disappear as the corresponding provider is no longer available for mounting. > Can I simply list the label as /dev/hdd-1TB-root (in the above example) > in fstab and it will happen automagically? Note that depending on the _kind_ of labels, the entry in /etc/fstab has to be in a specific format. Example: /dev/ada1p2 <- device name /dev/gpt/hdd-1TB-root <- label from gpart /dev/label/hdd-1TB-root <- label from glabel /dev/ufsid/1234567890abcdef <- UFS ID You can find more information here: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html#_the_new_standard_gpt https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/geom-glabel.html -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 28 08:28:54 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05D214AB3E5 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 08:28:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kp@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63F1C77CF1; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 08:28:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kp@FreeBSD.org) Received: from venus.codepro.be (venus.codepro.be [5.9.86.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.codepro.be", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: kp) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 102DA3390; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 08:28:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kp@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.228.1] (ptr-8rh08k11t7godspjqtj.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be [IPv6:2a02:1811:240e:402:c448:435:691e:8787]) (Authenticated sender: kp) by venus.codepro.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 61578DF59; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 09:28:52 +0100 (CET) From: "Kristof Provost" To: ASV Cc: "questions list" Subject: Re: PF issue since 11.2-RELEASE Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 09:28:50 +0100 X-Mailer: MailMate (2.0BETAr6135) Message-ID: <51F0845A-2BB3-4BC9-977D-BB0E6C305ED3@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: References: <989e79372513e9769c6857b531f14df8ce0b6f3a.camel@inhio.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_MailMate_FE34E488-BDA5-41DD-90C3-3FDF7F076B91_="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 63F1C77CF1 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.98 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[FreeBSD.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.981,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:2610:1c1:1::/48, country:US] X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 08:28:55 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 3156 and 4880). --=_MailMate_FE34E488-BDA5-41DD-90C3-3FDF7F076B91_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 27 Jan 2019, at 19:03, ASV wrote: > On Sun, 2019-01-27 at 16:08 +0100, Kristof Provost wrote: >> On 26 Jan 2019, at 17:00, ASV wrote: >>> since I've upgraded to 11.2 (from 11.1) I've observed that anytime >>> I >>> change something on pf.conf and reload (pfctl -f /etc/pf.conf) I >>> partially loose connectivity. Partially means that I still am >>> connected >>> to the server but the server cannot connect anywhere or ping >>> anything >>> (no hosts no IPs) also the jails instantly suffers from the same. >> >> That sounds like your established connection continues (because it >> keeps >> using the old rules), and something is wrong with the new rules. > Hi and thanks for your reply! > This is not the case as I'm modifying NAT rules so I'm not expecting > anything to start being blocked but the reverse. > >> The logical debugging steps would be: >> - check the ruleset matches what you expect (pfctl -s rules) >> - check the state table (pfctl -s states) >> - use pflog to determine what rule causes traffic to be dropped >> >>> The quickest fix is to revert the PF configuration to the previous >>> one >>> and reload. Everything starts working again. >>> >> >> What do you mean by =E2=80=98previous one=E2=80=99? Do you have two ru= lesets? What >> are the two rulesets? > The configuration hasn't been changed in ages and when I need to > upgrade the ports of a couple of jails which are NOT routed to the > internet I simply un-comment few NAT lines and reload the pf conf. I've= > been doing this specific action for almost 7 years, never a problem. > Therefore there is no problem in the rules. > > For previous ruleset I mean that since the jails start losing > connectivity (as long as I "push" the new ruleset) with internet and > with each other, I re-comment these lines and reload. Sometime it works= > sometime it doesn't and I need to: > > service pf restart > > which obviously forces me to re-login. > >>> I've been trying to find the root cause of this without success. >>> Did I >>> miss some major change on the PF port on FreeBSD? I've never seen >>> this >>> serious issue before nor on FreeBSD neither on OpenBSD. >> >> It=E2=80=99s very difficult to debug this with the extremely limited >> information you=E2=80=99ve included. >> Please post, at the very least, your pf ruleset and a full >> description >> of what you=E2=80=99re doing when things break and how you recover. > #nat on $ext_if from $SRV01 to any -> ($ext_if:0) > #nat on $ext_if from $SRV02 to any -> ($ext_if:0) > #nat on $ext_if from $SRV03 to any -> ($ext_if:0) > > not much really. But the same happens with other rules. Basically > whatever I modify there now requires a full pf restart, which is not > very practical as it kicks me out. > > I'm also having plenty of issues using fail2ban, just to mention > another as it is somehow related (even though a broader topic), where > rules are in place but aren't enforced. > > # pfctl -a f2b/asterisk-udp -t f2b-asterisk-udp -Ts > > > > > # pfctl -a f2b/asterisk-udp -t f2b-asterisk-udp -s rules > block drop quick proto udp from to any port =3D sip > block drop quick proto udp from to any port =3D sip-= tls > > then killing the state (if any) and check: > # pfctl -k ; tcpdump udp -nettt -i pflog0 port 5= 060 and host > killed 1 states from 1 sources and 0 destinations > tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol dec= ode > listening on pflog0, link-type PFLOG (OpenBSD pflog file), capture size= 262144 bytes > 00:00:00.000000 rule 24/0(match): pass in on lagg0: .6175 > .5060: SIP: REGISTER sip: SIP/2.0 > 00:01:07.344401 rule 24/0(match): pass in on lagg0: .6115 > .5060: SIP: REGISTER sip: SIP/2.0 > 00:00:39.690851 rule 24/0(match): pass in on lagg0: .6158 > .5060: SIP: REGISTER sip: SIP/2.0 > 00:00:43.058753 rule 24/0(match): pass in on lagg0: .6179 > .5060: SIP: REGISTER sip: SIP/2.0 > 00:00:43.912680 rule 24/0(match): pass in on lagg0: .6119 > .5060: SIP: REGISTER sip: SIP/2.0 > > it is clearly not enforcing the rules. > Please share the full pf.conf. I=E2=80=99m sure you understand that I can= not debug your problem without *full* information. 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I'm really asking > myself (and you) why FreeBSD could_not_ be considered > to be available to the public_without_ containing > backdoors, spyware, or malware. Actually, the project is struggling with a lack of information about its userbase. If you're trying to make decisions about the lifecycle of support for a particular device it certainly helps to have an idea about how many people are using it. The recent exercise in deprecating support for a number of NICs that were limited to 100Mb/s being a case in point. As for whether stock FreeBSD contains backdoors or spyware -- I'm pretty sure it doesn't, but there are no absolute guarantees. You can boot it up on a network and do some forensics on the network traffic it generates and pretty well assure yourself it isn't "calling home". You can scan the drives for the signatures of known malware and you can do a line-by-line check of the source code to try and find backdoors. None of these measures will /prove/ that such things dont exist, but they will provide reasonable practical assurance of the security and integrity of the system which is probably good enough for most users. Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 28 13:03:46 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01EC114B3605 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D88E8B19B for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=rcn.com; s=20180516; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@rcn.com; t=1548680623; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=Hnw9C39cQafBGS0ZP2FjunC9AaM=; b=OmQ/O4agIuscJQzxQN9m+vbuii86tFgfXpvd/L9TxmMd3FwSIa07sLHvzJewnLPt CuXNlPlB/1T1dwgPTVsYF7cXhLODfMZL2TViG2NTxgU6U2XoO5nU8NokEhk6vrFu 88GYc1T771poab6OPGLFu1H9ba24kV0RmC9zOkitgRjjDOgctitF4Cotn/svsyRC Ep2qg8/gQqanfIGHR8LTm9RY0O9xxMSmasTimeNWIyBI5HECXhYbiD/uhyPbFHpF GbRX5Vye9ToeAzD9JuCyCXt5wSwhA34+LKQqOVbHVcO3E8kgIUK0kyg/mNJMU6o+ LqHu4yIh8EGU2Eu+9RxV2g==; X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=V5Q/6qvi c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:117 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:17 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=XRQyMpdBKAEA:10 a=3JhidrIBZZsA:10 a=48faUk6PgeAA:10 a=077ptqBGmFz8F-gl1KMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: cm9iZXJ0aHVmZkByY24uY29t Authentication-Results: smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=roberthuff@rcn.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.user=roberthuff; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [209.6.230.48] ([209.6.230.48:58526] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384) id 95/FC-33539-FADFE4C5; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 08:03:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <23630.64970.365320.231106@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 08:04:10 -0500 From: Robert Huff To: Matthew Seaman Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless interface In-Reply-To: References: <20190126213957.adfeb61c.freebsd@edvax.de> <5C4CE8B8.4030608@gmail.com> <20190127013705.3e8cd5f3.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 26.1 (amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 1D88E8B19B X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=rcn.com header.s=20180516 header.b=OmQ/O4ag; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=rcn.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of roberthuff@rcn.com designates 69.168.97.78 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=roberthuff@rcn.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.98 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rcn.com:s=20180516]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[78.97.168.69.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:69.168.97.0/24]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[rcn.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx.rcn.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rcn.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.93)[-0.933,0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rcn.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.94)[ip: (-9.35), ipnet: 69.168.97.0/24(-4.52), asn: 36271(-0.75), country: US(-0.08)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36271, ipnet:69.168.97.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[78.97.168.69.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:03:46 -0000 Matthew Seaman writes: > Actually, the project is struggling with a lack of information > about its userbase. If you're trying to make decisions about the > lifecycle of support for a particular device it certainly helps to > have an idea about how many people are using it. Are steps being taken to address this? If so, how do I make my information available? > As for whether stock FreeBSD contains backdoors or spyware -- I'm > pretty sure it doesn't, but there are no absolute guarantees. I am told Dennis Ritchie once posed this at a conference: Proove, conclusively, the original C compiler - distributed in binary form - didn't contain an adapting, self-propagating, and self-concealing virus that has infected every executable compiled with that executable, including descendant compilers, /ad infinitum/. Last I heard no one had done so. I'd be happy to be prooved wrong. 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RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.992,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:17:18 -0000 On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 08:04:10 -0500 Robert Huff wrote: > I am told Dennis Ritchie once posed this at a conference: He wrote a paper "Reflections on Trusting Trust", you can read the PDF here: https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=358210 -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 28 13:25:51 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA4A14B4014 for ; 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Ken Thompson wrote the paper not Dennis Ritchie. > https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=358210 -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 28 13:32:39 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49AF214B4380 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:32:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B60D68C432; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: matthew/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8CBC6579C; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.212.184.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 54F6818551; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:32:35 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/54F6818551; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Wireless interface To: Robert Huff Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190126213957.adfeb61c.freebsd@edvax.de> <5C4CE8B8.4030608@gmail.com> <20190127013705.3e8cd5f3.freebsd@edvax.de> <23630.64970.365320.231106@jerusalem.litteratus.org> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:31:59 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <23630.64970.365320.231106@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B60D68C432 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.97 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[FreeBSD.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.970,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:2610:1c1:1::/48, country:US]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:32:39 -0000 On 28/01/2019 13:04, Robert Huff wrote: > Matthew Seaman writes: > >> Actually, the project is struggling with a lack of information >> about its userbase. If you're trying to make decisions about the >> lifecycle of support for a particular device it certainly helps to >> have an idea about how many people are using it. > Are steps being taken to address this? If so, how do I make my > information available? This is something that's on core's agenda. Last I heard they were asking for people to post their dmesg at NYCBUG's site: https://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi However this was in reference to a change which I think has already been completed. Also, being entirely voluntary as it is, this offers no guarantees about providing an unbiased sampling of the userbase nor does it give much of a handle on the absolute size of the userbase. Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 28 14:24:54 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5718514B5842 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 14:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx32.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B674B8E2D8 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 14:24:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (unknown [127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE4B525D for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 09:24:37 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.32.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IJoXU66IU0oD for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 09:24:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 199825252 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 09:24:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 09:24:35 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 09:24:35 -0500 Subject: Routing public to priviate IP addresses on the same interface through PF From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.23 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B674B8E2D8 X-Spamd-Bar: -------- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.48 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca]; RBL_COMPOSITE_RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED_DWL_DNSWL_LOW(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:216.185.71.0/26]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[harte-lyne.ca:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[32.71.185.216.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.4.2]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx32.harte-lyne.ca,mx31.harte-lyne.ca,mx132.harte-lyne.ca]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[harte-lyne.ca,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.988,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12021, ipnet:216.185.64.0/20, country:CA]; IP_SCORE(-3.78)[ip: (-9.91), ipnet: 216.185.64.0/20(-4.95), asn: 12021(-3.96), country: CA(-0.09)]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[harte-lyne.ca:s=dkim_hll]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(0.00)[harte-lyne.ca.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.4.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 14:24:54 -0000 I send this message to the freebsd-pf mailing list last week and the only reply or comment I received did not address the question. Can anyone here help me with this? -------------------------- Original Message -------------------------- Subject: routing LAN traffic through/around a pf gateway From: "James B. Byrne" Date: Thu, January 24, 2019 15:37 To: freebsd-pf@freebsd.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I have limited knowledge of PF being in the process of transitioning from 20+ years of RHEL/CentOS to FreeBSD. Neither do I possess any great fund of knowledge respecting IP routing. That said this is my problem: On a small test LAN I have three hosts, W44, W4 and G5: network layout, gateway address 216.185.71.5 W44 G5 w4 216.185.71.44 ----> 216.185.71.5 216.185.71.4 int_if IP 192.168.150.44 192.168.150.5 ----> 192.168.150.4 int_if IP aliases Using ssh and with PF running on the gateway, when I connect from 216.185.71.44 to 216.185.71.4 then the ssh session operates normally. However, if instead I connect from 216.185.71.44 to 192.168.150.4 then the initial connection is made but the ssh session remains responsive only for a brief time before it becomes non-responsive. If I terminate the PF running on the gateway the ssh session again becomes responsive. If I do not terminate PF then eventually the ssh session client disconnects with a timeout error. Besides macros the entire active contents of pf.conf on G5 are: scrub in all no-df max-mss 1440 fragment reassemble block return out log all block drop in log all pass log on $int_if pass inet proto icmp all \ icmp-type $icmp_types keep state pass out quick on $ext_if inet proto udp \ from any \ to any port 33433 >< 33626 keep state Which results in these rules when PF is running: @0 scrub in all no-df max-mss 1440 fragment reassemble @1 block return out log all @2 block drop in log all @3 pass log on em0 all flags S/SA keep state @4 pass inet proto icmp all icmp-type echoreq keep state @5 pass inet proto icmp all icmp-type unreach keep state @6 pass out quick on em1 inet proto udp from any to any port 33433 >< 33626 keep state When the ssh session is non-responsive PF records like this are logged: rule 1/0(match): block in on em0: 216.185.71.44.63394 > 192.168.150.4.22: Flags [P.], seq 2664:2952, ack 6041, win 1030, options [nop,nop,TS val 263607703 ecr 653371936], length 288 My question is: What filter rules will permit the ssh session established as above to remain responsive with PF running on the gateway while maintaining the default block directive for everything else? I am looking for the general case where hosts on the LAN that have multiple IP addresses can communicate with each other using any assigned IP without having PF involved at all, but which are filtered when passing through the gateway or natted to the WAN. Thanks, ---> What I need is some way to tell PF to ignore LAN to LAN traffic altogether and only consider traffic targetting the PF host itself or crossing from one interface to another. What is the way to do this? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 28 15:38:37 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E2114B70C8 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 15:38:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglists@927589452.de) Received: from alioth.uberspace.de (alioth.uberspace.de [185.26.156.45]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B0756A0DC for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 15:38:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglists@927589452.de) Received: (qmail 26988 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2019 15:31:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by alioth.uberspace.de with SMTP; 28 Jan 2019 15:31:51 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 16:29:56 +0100 From: J To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: J Subject: Re: Wireless interface Message-ID: <20190128152956.4wsigi7ttb6vuvz2@wilddog.927589452.space> References: <20190126213957.adfeb61c.freebsd@edvax.de> <5C4CE8B8.4030608@gmail.com> <20190127013705.3e8cd5f3.freebsd@edvax.de> <23630.64970.365320.231106@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="h37xmbs76lvrjelz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Info: Keep It Simple, Stupid. 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[50.243.4.3]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id t6sm13906798ioc.87.2019.01.28.08.09.06 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Jan 2019 08:09:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5C4F2951.4080206@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 09:09:53 -0700 From: JD User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon , Valeri Galtsev CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless interface References: <20190126213957.adfeb61c.freebsd@edvax.de> <5C4CE8B8.4030608@gmail.com> <20190127013705.3e8cd5f3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190127204742.f558599b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20190127204742.f558599b.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 1A7766B508 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=MbH38YCM; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jd1008@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d30 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jd1008@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.69 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.978,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[0.3.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-2.70)[ip: (-9.05), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.46), asn: 15169(-1.92), country: US(-0.08)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 16:09:10 -0000 On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 11:14:40 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >I 100% agree with Polytropon, and would just add one simple point: >FreeBSD is open source system. Everyone in the World can *(and some/many* >*do)* go and audit the code for backdoors and/or vulnerabilities. Really??? Audit tens or hundreds of millions of lines of code for OS, Compilers, Libraries, applications (especially interpreted language applications such as Java and JS) to search for trojans and vulnerabilities? I seriously doubt it. I only wish it were true. It has never been true. Who would want to spend thousands of hours doing this kind of code review FOR FREE???? Given the rapid rate of development and changes submitted, the auditing process would never ever catch up. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 28 16:16:12 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D719214B7D38 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 16:16:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 981DE6BBB4 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 16:16:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1548692170; x=1551284170; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=EGBoLglJpunY1BvfwjCZtAHuEsNpNTbn6clP/A9UgUo=; b=E3fnymyquG1MX3gcbvPewt5m+KrVkOmYYMJqlqYg+m2qv/4Y3pMMGvIZq9h6pJutvP09miO9N1cYVPLIHcIVHWIdEo58cCGKYqPrCxG3l/nMXw6fyaHMCg9ELzLX4ZuVpNkPQYcbXZRqMofmLZEKiPUfOmiurgA6vypef+PezIc= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xYTMwMDAwMDE4NTI2OGQuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r3.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r3.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com [54.187.94.11]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 28 Jan 2019 11:16:07 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r3.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 28 Jan 2019 11:16:04 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1go9Zq-000NTq-Gw; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 16:16:02 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 16:16:02 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: JD Cc: Polytropon , Valeri Galtsev , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless interface Message-Id: <20190128161602.49f9c5c06a4de027bf06e8b0@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <5C4F2951.4080206@gmail.com> References: <20190126213957.adfeb61c.freebsd@edvax.de> <5C4CE8B8.4030608@gmail.com> <20190127013705.3e8cd5f3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190127204742.f558599b.freebsd@edvax.de> <5C4F2951.4080206@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 981DE6BBB4 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=E3fnymyq; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.96 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mxbh.socketlabs.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.72)[-0.719,0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.24)[ip: (-0.59), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(-0.29), asn: 7381(-0.23), country: US(-0.08)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.992,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 16:16:12 -0000 On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 09:09:53 -0700 JD wrote: > > > On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 11:14:40 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > >I 100% agree with Polytropon, and would just add one simple point: > >FreeBSD is open source system. Everyone in the World can *(and some/many* > >*do)* go and audit the code for backdoors and/or vulnerabilities. > > Really??? > Audit tens or hundreds of millions of lines of code for OS, > Compilers, Libraries, applications (especially interpreted > language applications such as Java and JS) to search for > trojans and vulnerabilities? > I seriously doubt it. Certainly no single person or group has done so, but the main thing is that all of it is available to be audited and much of it is known to have been audited which makes it a very unsafe place to attempt to hide anything. In almost every case commit requests are available to public code review before they are committed. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 28 17:25:04 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56CC14B9B50 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 17:25:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9AAB76EF1E for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 17:25:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x0SHOskv054838; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 10:24:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Subject: Re: gpart volume names in /dev? To: Polytropon Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20190128045931.fdd89d9b.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Gary Aitken Message-ID: <9ad691c2-2fdd-bb91-cd0b-da7a1c3f7d56@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 10:23:55 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190128045931.fdd89d9b.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Mon, 28 Jan 2019 10:24:54 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9AAB76EF1E X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.38 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: nightmare.dreamchaser.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.84)[-0.841,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-3.23)[ip: (-8.47), ipnet: 66.109.128.0/19(-4.23), asn: 21947(-3.39), country: US(-0.08)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 17:25:04 -0000 On 1/27/19 8:59 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 19:48:02 -0700, Gary Aitken wrote: >> How does one get gpart labels to show up in /dev? > > They should show up automatically as soon as a drive's partitions > have been labeled. When such a partition gets mounted, the label > file in /dev will disappear, this is completely normal. I'm not > sure, but maybe even if you use the device name for mounting, > the label could disappear as the corresponding provider is no > longer available for mounting. Ah, maybe that's why I didn't see them any more. >> Can I simply list the label as /dev/hdd-1TB-root (in the above example) >> in fstab and it will happen automagically? > > Note that depending on the _kind_ of labels, the entry in /etc/fstab > has to be in a specific format. > > Example: > > /dev/ada1p2 <- device name > /dev/gpt/hdd-1TB-root <- label from gpart > /dev/label/hdd-1TB-root <- label from glabel > /dev/ufsid/1234567890abcdef <- UFS ID > > You can find more information here: > > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html#_the_new_standard_gpt > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/geom-glabel.html Thanks, that's what I needed. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 28 18:13:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B628A14BAD40 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 18:13:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parsasamet@icloud.com) Received: from mr85p00im-zteg06021601.me.com (mr85p00im-zteg06021601.me.com [17.58.23.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D973970CDD for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 18:13:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parsasamet@icloud.com) Received: from [172.20.10.4] (unknown [5.62.219.156]) by mr85p00im-zteg06021601.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 59B88400144 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 18:13:20 +0000 (UTC) From: Parsa Samet Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Subject: When to use Jails with VNET, and when not?! Message-Id: <097B8CD7-A158-4DEA-8F7C-13B358F90793@icloud.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 21:43:14 +0330 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2019-01-28_09:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=1 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=389 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1807170000 definitions=main-1901280136 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D973970CDD X-Spamd-Bar: --------- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-9.04 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RBL_COMPOSITE_RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED_DWL_DNSWL_LOW(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[icloud.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:17.58.0.0/16]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[icloud.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[187.23.58.17.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[icloud.com,quarantine]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.mail.icloud.com]; SUBJECT_ENDS_EXCLAIM(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.963,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[icloud.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:714, ipnet:17.58.16.0/20, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_HAS_QUESTION(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[icloud.com:s=04042017]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(0.00)[icloud.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; IP_SCORE(-1.87)[ip: (-6.19), ipnet: 17.58.16.0/20(-1.54), asn: 714(-1.55), country: US(-0.08)]; WHITELIST_SPF_DKIM(-3.00)[icloud.com:d:+,icloud.com:s:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 18:13:30 -0000 Would someone please give me a brief explanation of when to use jails = with VNET and when not to? If VLAN-ing is not my concern, and services I = use do not need a separate network stack - let=E2=80=99s say I run = anything from DNS server to MailServer, Database, Java Application = Server, VCS, CICD implementations, Streamers, Log Analyzers and etc., = but believe they don=E2=80=99t in all scenarios need separate stacks - = would there be anything else left for me to benefit from VNET? All services I run on my servers are in a jail, and only some rare = services are in an OpenBSD vm on top of bhyve. Also, I=E2=80=99m on = FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE-p2 with ZFS.= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 28 21:43:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F3014C0826 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 21:43:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from non.euc.geo.1854@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pl1-x634.google.com (mail-pl1-x634.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::634]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 691AD813C0 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 21:43:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from non.euc.geo.1854@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pl1-x634.google.com with SMTP id b5so8338443plr.4 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:43:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=to:from:subject:message-id:disposition-notification-to:date :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=pIV1nN+D6E3ns9BSZ4aaLfyEdbSL9OEG5/4/p9TFBWQ=; b=TzCd9no+dtDrQGD2n/2CnXo66H9p3rP+mO+ErWo8jvUvUCLqX+S2KkUfYn+ZFjk16c 8coXSmR8W89W2GjMGPEdGLCEBgf/vpqyEc1/QXr+tQh6XExggOqYoMiT7tG2GLIzSyrd zGNIv85d2gDjSWuyOsf8S8ZH12evBcHAixoPag7RXJowgr2dHKmqHS68ZEpv4xA2cqUV oyodog4HUbiV05GrNtfgHKKCMN+4YJDwJ7cK2bjY1xZaS82HWcsRlG4BvrODfMFRETwf NB+nyC4now0RG6F6jCGVpkaemnDSa2mOnQ8SOF6dXjcFFZGibaHSLlqCHwblsuvTjiep 5OEw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:to:from:subject:message-id :disposition-notification-to:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=pIV1nN+D6E3ns9BSZ4aaLfyEdbSL9OEG5/4/p9TFBWQ=; b=rWdtAhe65nt7KM1kPXtT1ieIiVJegJBSxU+PXEpoq7FhKmGGxWu59yoJGruck9eI0H jpEi8gWcaDWgymBc2bWxEy/wLU3RnuBWBtPfMQfqgTgQuLo99LvkCo+UCIH2pfKeEemq vjP9AyRTRWsorFjpW2lNaLcRIQMVNqqhY3k7PN1wv/DhfQyRZWR1pUiIupkK0wWsjmWs HjCChwQyOR5+4vGauGcS5O+tbMS6HSr6UphYoVUej2TPargJ4mJGuRNi3KrpBnWiqu0v 67RSSt/DXCL/+F+q33FYN3IlRD41jekwIP6eE8femCLvkWkZXN/PCnVZChhXgW4mGIDY 36hQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukc+Q6QxOiLtbQehQ+U5roD4ap5QXu+I3mHr622+QL0QAbIy6LjM BNaSpe59vkKAnsgqeKq/kBQTx/j5 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN5PA5QgDwt6z5L87+Ap/QhlNWA4Dv5gTe6nstMwvpyRQAxrHqlSEHHeDKTnO0s+Tif7eAaFCQ== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:c85:: with SMTP id 5mr23744792plt.339.1548711808133; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:43:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsdpc.home.net (cpe-76-90-238-16.socal.res.rr.com. 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Subject: Laptop Not Seeing WiFi Network Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:43:47 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 691AD813C0 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=TzCd9no+; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of noneucgeo1854@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::634 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=noneucgeo1854@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.66 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.974,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; HEADER_FORGED_MDN(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-2.68)[ip: (-8.90), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.48), asn: 15169(-1.93), country: US(-0.08)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[4.3.6.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 21:43:30 -0000 Hi, Laptop: Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon with Intel 8265 / 8275 Wireless card. `ifconfig wlan0 list scan' shows dozens of networks around me, including one on the same channel as my AP, but mine isn't listed. Two other wireless devices on my network show my AP, so it's confirmed broadcasting (non-FreeBSD devices). Running 11.2-RELEASE. Any suggestions on what to try next? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 07:17:36 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6E914AEECD for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 07:17:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E73B26FFDD for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 07:17:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: matthew/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 857C3CB36 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 07:17:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (unknown [192.168.100.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C3D3F1864B for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 07:17:32 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/C3D3F1864B; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: When to use Jails with VNET, and when not?! 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mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.98 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[FreeBSD.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.985,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:2610:1c1:1::/48, country:US] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 07:17:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --HtM2hS40jmhmefzns4ffKpky5s6tQBKwF Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="L6HA6NFjcUXrmxfq1bBhCMIqXvdrr8GvS"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: When to use Jails with VNET, and when not?! References: <097B8CD7-A158-4DEA-8F7C-13B358F90793@icloud.com> In-Reply-To: <097B8CD7-A158-4DEA-8F7C-13B358F90793@icloud.com> --L6HA6NFjcUXrmxfq1bBhCMIqXvdrr8GvS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 28/01/2019 18:13, Parsa Samet via freebsd-questions wrote: > Would someone please give me a brief explanation of when to use > jails with VNET and when not to? If VLAN-ing is not my concern, and=20 > services I use do not need a separate network stack - let=E2=80=99s say= I run > anything from DNS server to MailServer, Database, Java Application > Server, VCS, CICD implementations, Streamers, Log Analyzers and etc., > but believe they don=E2=80=99t in all scenarios need separate stacks - = would > there be anything else left for me to benefit from VNET? There is no general clear-cut reason to use VNET jails over traditional ones -- for the vast majority of cases, either style will serve you well. There are some edge cases where the decision is easier: * Jails with no networking -- these might not sound very useful, but for example, they are used heavily by poudriere for providing clean build environments. In this case, there's no need to add all the host-side pieces for a VNET jail, like configuring a bridge0 * Jails where they need an independent routing table or firewall config, typically because management of the jail has been delegated to a different group than manages the containing host. Not always though: on a multi-homed system jailed applications can quite easily need different routing than the main host. These are certainly best served through VNET jails. * Jails where the software needs access to a standard loopback interface or where loopback traffic should not be routed via a network accessible interface for security reasons. Again, VNET jails are appropriate here. * In a mixed environment of bare-metal servers and jails, configuring jails to use VNET means that they behave much more like standard hosts. This may simplify management, particularly if you use configuration management systems like ansible or puppet. An example of software that benefits from the third case is unbound where it rejects packets that appear on a different interface than it expects. I suspect that for the services you mention, there is no compelling case either way between VNET and traditional jails. You get to choose fairly arbitrarily. > All services I run on my servers are in a jail, and only some rare > services are in an OpenBSD vm on top of bhyve. Also, I=E2=80=99m on Fre= eBSD > 12.0-RELEASE-p2 with ZFS. Yes -- 12.0-RELEASE is most suitable for running VNET enabled jails. You could do it on older FreeBSD versions, but the code was a lot less polished and you'ld need a custom kernel. ZFS works nicely with jails -- consider investigating the iocage jail management software: https://github.com/iocage/iocage which stores jail configurations as ZFS properties. 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This is not easy : - ) But I managed to get the environment working under Linux using lldb. When I try that setup in FreeBSD, trying to launch the debugger first got me a message that my version of lldb (lldb60) does not support scripting. So I installed llvm70 and put the following in make.conf: CC=clang70 CXX=clang++70 CPP=clang-cpp70 Now when I try to get the debugger running, I get a message that the selected debug adapter requires platform-specific files, and then an error message that the platform is not supported. Has anyone managed to get lldb debugging functional for VS Code under freeBSD ? Any tips would be greatly welcome. 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Kind regards, Nathan West, Website Designer, ------------------------------------------------------------- Note: - If you are not interested then you can reply with a simple \"NO\",We will never contact you again From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 12:02:20 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD1614BAC7B for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFF36838E1 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:02:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.qeng-ho.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B9C1064F for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:02:11 +0000 (GMT) To: FreeBSD-Questions From: Arthur Chance Subject: Replacing base commands with pkg versions Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:02:11 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: CFF36838E1 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@qeng-ho.org designates 217.155.128.241 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@qeng-ho.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.55 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.86)[-0.864,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:217.155.128.240/29]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[qeng-ho.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.990,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx1.mythic-beasts.com,mx2.mythic-beasts.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.03)[-0.035,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.36)[asn: 13037(-1.69), country: GB(-0.09)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13037, ipnet:217.155.0.0/16, country:GB]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:02:20 -0000 What is the recommended way of dealing with the base versions of commands when installing a package version instead? Should I chmod -x the base executable(s), delete them or rename them? What happens if I subsequently do a freebsd-update - do the base executables get reinstated or are they ignored? The specific case I'm interested in is unbound under 11.2, but this applies to a variety of programs (CUPS vs base lpr, or base vs pkg llvm come to mind) and if there's any official guidance on this I've missed it. -- Always learn from the mistakes of others, because you won't live long enough to learn from making all possible mistakes yourself. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 12:31:16 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8680114BBEFB for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:31:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Received: from mail-40132.protonmail.ch (mail-40132.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.protonmail.ch", Issuer "SwissSign Server Silver CA 2014 - G22" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20274849AA for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:31:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:31:01 +0000 To: FreeBSD Questions From: Lorenzo Salvadore Reply-To: Lorenzo Salvadore Subject: Re: Replacing base commands with pkg versions Message-ID: <2WSWeqA769U9_j-YlfypjYKPgycGgCJH_5-w2PzJSegmBaHtZtTie7Kht_IANZU2s9xDJSE8kiDBP_9EvUj7ccQa1uevCPPiyoOAIm03fPo=@protonmail.ch> In-Reply-To: References: Feedback-ID: X6az_D2smWSR8MT5MHqXnWF0upxehDyHia7Id1cbayHNBUkRu3CIeusDsZHiivIIjmaKB1_OofpALrRUYjNz3w==:Ext:ProtonMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on mail.protonmail.ch X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 20274849AA X-Spamd-Bar: ----- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.87 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[phascolarctos@protonmail.ch]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[protonmail.ch:s=default]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[protonmail.ch.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:185.70.40.0/24]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[protonmail.ch:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mailsec.protonmail.ch,mail.protonmail.ch]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[protonmail.ch,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.981,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-1.78)[ipnet: 185.70.40.0/24(-4.90), asn: 19905(-3.92), country: US(-0.08)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19905, ipnet:185.70.40.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[132.40.70.185.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:31:16 -0000 > What is the recommended way of dealing with the base versions of > commands when installing a package version instead? Should I chmod -x > the base executable(s), delete them or rename them? What happens if I > subsequently do a freebsd-update - do the base executables get > reinstated or are they ignored? > > The specific case I'm interested in is unbound under 11.2, but this > applies to a variety of programs (CUPS vs base lpr, or base vs pkg llvm > come to mind) and if there's any official guidance on this I've missed it= . I cannot give you an official answer, but if you always want to have the pk= g version getting precedence on the base version, I would reorder the PATH variable. If instead you want to mix versions, I would not change the base system, I would rather create aliases for the shell. Lorenzo Salvadore. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 12:35:16 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8062514BC2B1 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:35:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E351784E7D for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:35:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.qeng-ho.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57BEC1064F; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:35:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: Replacing base commands with pkg versions To: Lorenzo Salvadore , FreeBSD Questions References: <2WSWeqA769U9_j-YlfypjYKPgycGgCJH_5-w2PzJSegmBaHtZtTie7Kht_IANZU2s9xDJSE8kiDBP_9EvUj7ccQa1uevCPPiyoOAIm03fPo=@protonmail.ch> From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:35:14 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2WSWeqA769U9_j-YlfypjYKPgycGgCJH_5-w2PzJSegmBaHtZtTie7Kht_IANZU2s9xDJSE8kiDBP_9EvUj7ccQa1uevCPPiyoOAIm03fPo=@protonmail.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E351784E7D X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@qeng-ho.org designates 217.155.128.241 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@qeng-ho.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.83 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.941,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:217.155.128.240/29]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[qeng-ho.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.mythic-beasts.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.19)[-0.193,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.39)[asn: 13037(-1.83), country: GB(-0.09)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13037, ipnet:217.155.0.0/16, country:GB]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:35:16 -0000 On 29/01/2019 12:31, Lorenzo Salvadore via freebsd-questions wrote: >> What is the recommended way of dealing with the base versions of >> commands when installing a package version instead? Should I chmod -x >> the base executable(s), delete them or rename them? What happens if I >> subsequently do a freebsd-update - do the base executables get >> reinstated or are they ignored? >> >> The specific case I'm interested in is unbound under 11.2, but this >> applies to a variety of programs (CUPS vs base lpr, or base vs pkg llvm >> come to mind) and if there's any official guidance on this I've missed it. > > I cannot give you an official answer, but if you always want to have the pkg > version getting precedence on the base version, I would reorder the PATH > variable. > > If instead you want to mix versions, I would not change the base system, I > would rather create aliases for the shell. In this case I specifically want to disable the base commands, and want them to be disabled under all circumstances, hence the suggestions of chmod -x, etc. -- Always learn from the mistakes of others, because you won't live long enough to learn from making all possible mistakes yourself. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 12:47:03 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED5614BC7EF for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:47:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Received: from mail4.protonmail.ch (mail4.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.protonmail.ch", Issuer "SwissSign Server Silver CA 2014 - G22" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 463B6854E1 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:46:46 +0000 To: FreeBSD Questions From: Lorenzo Salvadore Reply-To: Lorenzo Salvadore Subject: Re: Replacing base commands with pkg versions Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <2WSWeqA769U9_j-YlfypjYKPgycGgCJH_5-w2PzJSegmBaHtZtTie7Kht_IANZU2s9xDJSE8kiDBP_9EvUj7ccQa1uevCPPiyoOAIm03fPo=@protonmail.ch> Feedback-ID: X6az_D2smWSR8MT5MHqXnWF0upxehDyHia7Id1cbayHNBUkRu3CIeusDsZHiivIIjmaKB1_OofpALrRUYjNz3w==:Ext:ProtonMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on mail.protonmail.ch X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 463B6854E1 X-Spamd-Bar: ------- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.84 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[phascolarctos@protonmail.ch]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[protonmail.ch:s=default]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[protonmail.ch.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:185.70.40.0/24]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[protonmail.ch:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[protonmail.ch,quarantine]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mailsec.protonmail.ch]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.984,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-3.75)[ip: (-9.84), ipnet: 185.70.40.0/24(-4.90), asn: 19905(-3.92), country: US(-0.08)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19905, ipnet:185.70.40.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[27.40.70.185.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:47:03 -0000 > On 29/01/2019 12:31, Lorenzo Salvadore via freebsd-questions wrote: > > > > What is the recommended way of dealing with the base versions of > > > commands when installing a package version instead? Should I chmod -x > > > the base executable(s), delete them or rename them? What happens if I > > > subsequently do a freebsd-update - do the base executables get > > > reinstated or are they ignored? > > > The specific case I'm interested in is unbound under 11.2, but this > > > applies to a variety of programs (CUPS vs base lpr, or base vs pkg ll= vm > > > come to mind) and if there's any official guidance on this I've misse= d it. > > > > I cannot give you an official answer, but if you always want to have th= e pkg > > version getting precedence on the base version, I would reorder the PAT= H > > variable. > > If instead you want to mix versions, I would not change the base system= , I > > would rather create aliases for the shell. > > In this case I specifically want to disable the base commands, and want > them to be disabled under all circumstances, hence the suggestions of > chmod -x, etc. If you really know what you're doing then locate the base program, rename i= t (to keep a backup) and make a link to the pkg version in the base location with= the original name. (Again, there is nothing official about this approach.) Be carefull: packages are tested with a base system unchanged, hence there = is no guarantee that if a software you install depends on a command in base that = you changed it will still work. Maybe you should think if there is a better way to achieve your goal than using pkg versions instead of base. Can you tell us what's the reason base = is not good enough for you? Lorenzo Salvadore. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 13:45:06 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A6614BDFAB for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 13:45:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bblister@gmail.com) Received: from n6.nabble.com (n6.nabble.com [162.255.23.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E738720C for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 13:45:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bblister@gmail.com) Received: from n6.nabble.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by n6.nabble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3D4BFF3578 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 06:44:57 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 06:44:57 -0700 (MST) From: BBlister To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1548769497498-0.post@n6.nabble.com> Subject: CH353 Serial PCI Card Drivers not attached MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D7E738720C X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=fail reason="" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=softfail (mx1.freebsd.org: 162.255.23.37 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of bblister@gmail.com) smtp.mailfrom=bblister@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.74 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[gmail.com : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; R_SPF_SOFTFAIL(0.00)[~all]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.92)[0.923,0]; IP_SCORE(0.23)[ip: (0.97), ipnet: 162.255.20.0/22(0.21), asn: 21624(0.04), country: US(-0.08)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.75)[0.753,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.75)[0.751,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[37.23.255.162.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21624, ipnet:162.255.20.0/22, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 13:45:06 -0000 Dear members, I would like to add a PCI Serial card to one of my FreeBSD 12 boxes, in order to be able to see the console of two other servers via serial null modem cable. Towards this goal, I have bought a PCI serial card, that it is being identified as: none4@pci0:4:0:0: class=0x070002 card=0x32534348 chip=0x70534348 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'WCH.CN' device = 'CH353 PCI Dual Serial and Parallel Ports Controller' class = simple comms subclass = UART Unfortunatelly, No driver is attached to this PCI card. I am searching for a driver in order to use this dual serial port but until now my quest has been unsuccessful. Do you have any hint of how I can use this? Do you know if a linux driver exist for this in order to see if I could port it to FreeBSD? Do you know any PCI Serial card that I could buy on ebay or alliexpress that has a supported chipset by FreeBSD? Do you think that the only way is to buy a set of Prolific USB to Serial adapters? Thank you very much, Yours sincerely, Dr.M -- Sent from: http://freebsd.1045724.x6.nabble.com/freebsd-questions-f3696945.html From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 15:02:39 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D5B14C0298 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:02:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6CA38A2D3 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:02:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.qeng-ho.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6F81064F; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:02:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: Replacing base commands with pkg versions To: Lorenzo Salvadore , FreeBSD Questions References: <2WSWeqA769U9_j-YlfypjYKPgycGgCJH_5-w2PzJSegmBaHtZtTie7Kht_IANZU2s9xDJSE8kiDBP_9EvUj7ccQa1uevCPPiyoOAIm03fPo=@protonmail.ch> From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: <317f2ef8-35ff-5d3d-8f2f-50714eda729f@qeng-ho.org> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:02:36 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D6CA38A2D3 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@qeng-ho.org designates 217.155.128.241 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@qeng-ho.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.84 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.95)[-0.950,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:217.155.128.240/29]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[qeng-ho.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.mythic-beasts.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.17)[-0.168,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.41)[asn: 13037(-1.97), country: GB(-0.09)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13037, ipnet:217.155.0.0/16, country:GB]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:02:39 -0000 On 29/01/2019 12:46, Lorenzo Salvadore via freebsd-questions wrote: >> On 29/01/2019 12:31, Lorenzo Salvadore via freebsd-questions wrote: >> >>>> What is the recommended way of dealing with the base versions of >>>> commands when installing a package version instead? Should I chmod -x >>>> the base executable(s), delete them or rename them? What happens if I >>>> subsequently do a freebsd-update - do the base executables get >>>> reinstated or are they ignored? >>>> The specific case I'm interested in is unbound under 11.2, but this >>>> applies to a variety of programs (CUPS vs base lpr, or base vs pkg llvm >>>> come to mind) and if there's any official guidance on this I've missed it. >>> >>> I cannot give you an official answer, but if you always want to have the pkg >>> version getting precedence on the base version, I would reorder the PATH >>> variable. >>> If instead you want to mix versions, I would not change the base system, I >>> would rather create aliases for the shell. >> >> In this case I specifically want to disable the base commands, and want >> them to be disabled under all circumstances, hence the suggestions of >> chmod -x, etc. > > If you really know what you're doing then locate the base program, rename it (to > keep a backup) and make a link to the pkg version in the base location with the > original name. (Again, there is nothing official about this approach.) > > Be carefull: packages are tested with a base system unchanged, hence there is no > guarantee that if a software you install depends on a command in base that you > changed it will still work. > > Maybe you should think if there is a better way to achieve your goal than > using pkg versions instead of base. Can you tell us what's the reason base is > not good enough for you? To quote the Handbook: "Unbound is provided in the FreeBSD base system. By default, it will provide DNS resolution to the local machine only. While the base system package can be configured to provide resolution services beyond the local machine, it is recommended that such requirements be addressed by installing Unbound from the FreeBSD Ports Collection." I need to provide resolvers for a few dozen clients so I'm following the Handbook's advice and installing the ports/pkg version. Unfortunately I'm on 11.2 where the base versions of the unbound suite of programs retain their original names. I gather 12.0 renames them all to local_unbound* to avoid name collisions, but that's not helpful to me right now. Specifically, I'm worried about the possibility of freebsd-update reinstating the base versions if I remove or disable them, so if anybody who's familiar with the workings of freebsd-update can comment on it, I'd be grateful. -- Always learn from the mistakes of others, because you won't live long enough to learn from making all possible mistakes yourself. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 15:16:37 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0179714C08B9 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:16:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97A958AD4F for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:16:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: matthew/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1D56BFF77 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:16:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.212.184.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 721B9186DA for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:16:33 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/721B9186DA; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Replacing base commands with pkg versions To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2WSWeqA769U9_j-YlfypjYKPgycGgCJH_5-w2PzJSegmBaHtZtTie7Kht_IANZU2s9xDJSE8kiDBP_9EvUj7ccQa1uevCPPiyoOAIm03fPo=@protonmail.ch> <317f2ef8-35ff-5d3d-8f2f-50714eda729f@qeng-ho.org> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:16:32 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <317f2ef8-35ff-5d3d-8f2f-50714eda729f@qeng-ho.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 97A958AD4F X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.99 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[FreeBSD.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.991,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:96.47.64.0/20, country:US] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:16:37 -0000 On 29/01/2019 15:02, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 29/01/2019 12:46, Lorenzo Salvadore via freebsd-questions wrote: >>> On 29/01/2019 12:31, Lorenzo Salvadore via freebsd-questions wrote: >>> >>>>> What is the recommended way of dealing with the base versions of >>>>> commands when installing a package version instead? Should I chmod -x >>>>> the base executable(s), delete them or rename them? What happens if I >>>>> subsequently do a freebsd-update - do the base executables get >>>>> reinstated or are they ignored? >>>>> The specific case I'm interested in is unbound under 11.2, but this >>>>> applies to a variety of programs (CUPS vs base lpr, or base vs pkg llvm >>>>> come to mind) and if there's any official guidance on this I've missed it. >>>> >>>> I cannot give you an official answer, but if you always want to have the pkg >>>> version getting precedence on the base version, I would reorder the PATH >>>> variable. >>>> If instead you want to mix versions, I would not change the base system, I >>>> would rather create aliases for the shell. >>> >>> In this case I specifically want to disable the base commands, and want >>> them to be disabled under all circumstances, hence the suggestions of >>> chmod -x, etc. >> >> If you really know what you're doing then locate the base program, rename it (to >> keep a backup) and make a link to the pkg version in the base location with the >> original name. (Again, there is nothing official about this approach.) >> >> Be carefull: packages are tested with a base system unchanged, hence there is no >> guarantee that if a software you install depends on a command in base that you >> changed it will still work. >> >> Maybe you should think if there is a better way to achieve your goal than >> using pkg versions instead of base. Can you tell us what's the reason base is >> not good enough for you? > > To quote the Handbook: > > "Unbound is provided in the FreeBSD base system. By default, it will > provide DNS resolution to the local machine only. While the base system > package can be configured to provide resolution services beyond the > local machine, it is recommended that such requirements be addressed by > installing Unbound from the FreeBSD Ports Collection." > > I need to provide resolvers for a few dozen clients so I'm following the > Handbook's advice and installing the ports/pkg version. Unfortunately > I'm on 11.2 where the base versions of the unbound suite of programs > retain their original names. I gather 12.0 renames them all to > local_unbound* to avoid name collisions, but that's not helpful to me > right now. > > Specifically, I'm worried about the possibility of freebsd-update > reinstating the base versions if I remove or disable them, so if anybody > who's familiar with the workings of freebsd-update can comment on it, > I'd be grateful. > In the specific case of unbound -- you'll be running that as a daemon, and you can only run one out of local_unbound or the unbound from ports. So all you need to do is adjust settings in /etc/rc.conf one time. (Well, if you were previously using local_unbound, you might need to review /etc/resolv.conf but even that should work with a ports version of unbound.) The only tricky thing is if you need to run such as unbound-control -- in that case you can control which variant you get by default by adjusting your $PATH or if necessary by creating shell aliases or functions. However these unbound adjunct commands should be relatively rarely used, and using the wrong one will generally fail harmlessly. 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owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 16:38:39 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257F214C30AF for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:38:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89BF08E6EC for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:38:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: matthew/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2A1FB10822 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:38:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.212.184.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E9DB8186F4 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:38:36 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/E9DB8186F4; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Toolchain broken on -CURRENT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1199871548778012@myt5-96980ae04900.qloud-c.yandex.net> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <8072552c-f817-eee3-1263-20ac8339fc44@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:38:36 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1199871548778012@myt5-96980ae04900.qloud-c.yandex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 89BF08E6EC X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.99 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[FreeBSD.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.991,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:2610:1c1:1::/48, country:US] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:38:39 -0000 On 29/01/2019 16:06, DHCP Server wrote: > Please can I somehow to repair my -CURRENT installation? What happens: > I have a machine which I use to check current state of -current revision as a desktop. > It has a simple X11 desktop and I periodically update /usr/src with svnlite update and > rebuild world as in instruction. > > At some moment (most likely I'm something do wrong), I have broken toolchain and > world does not compile anymore. With ld.lld segfault. How can I repaire my system > without clean installation? When you build world, you first spend a lot of time building a new toolchain using your systems' installed toolchain. This new toolchain is what appears to be broken in the output you show. So, you may well have a perfectly good toolchain installed, but a source tree that is defective -- mistakes do happen, and it can break building the world. In this case, you can do the following to give yourself the best chance of building world successfully again: * delete everything under /usr/obj * check out the most recent sources using git or svn or svnlite or whatever you prefer * restart the build Check the output from your buildworld and buildkernel for any errors and don't install unless the compile was error free. Consider whether 13-CURRENT is the right version for you to run. It is a development version and is not guaranteed to run correctly (or at all). You're expected to be able to cope with such problems when you run it. You will find -STABLE or -RELEASE a smoother ride and more performant to boot, as those code branches have certain performance impacting debugging code turned off. Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 17:15:11 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A468214C4702 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 17:15:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhcp.server@yandex.ru) Received: from forward500j.mail.yandex.net (forward500j.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801:2::110]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66331902E9 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 17:15:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhcp.server@yandex.ru) Received: from mxback11o.mail.yandex.net (mxback11o.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::62]) by forward500j.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 7D0BD11C0EDC for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:15:05 +0300 (MSK) Received: from localhost (localhost [::1]) by mxback11o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id d4ATplKW58-F4fqYbML; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:15:04 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1548782104; bh=H3f+seTfBz4/bt/fqhMjngMs5EEA0e564GlZ7PTBaf0=; h=From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:Date:Message-Id; b=o7EkJMyqlHdyWEKWKPkIsmnsYubS2zyhW/VnMMTNpC+7u6RIEtXcofflYihzcnYQF kSK6mkJODjyRJQNjmPbKDi6zo0A/C4fQ8tjsTn7pPORCRiGlCWJcD4BmswnGqr3pZF 0Le+mRnhbFTnR31FiP0n5uAICTpcFC4wpPCy6NiI= Received: by sas1-02732547ccc0.qloud-c.yandex.net with HTTP; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:15:04 +0300 From: DHCP Server Envelope-From: dhcp-server@yandex.ru To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <8072552c-f817-eee3-1263-20ac8339fc44@FreeBSD.org> References: <1199871548778012@myt5-96980ae04900.qloud-c.yandex.net> <8072552c-f817-eee3-1263-20ac8339fc44@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Toolchain broken on -CURRENT MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 22:15:04 +0500 Message-Id: <998061548782104@sas1-02732547ccc0.qloud-c.yandex.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 66331902E9 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=yandex.ru header.s=mail header.b=o7EkJMyq; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=yandex.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dhcp.server@yandex.ru designates 2a02:6b8:0:801:2::110 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dhcp.server@yandex.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.80 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yandex.ru:s=mail]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yandex.ru.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a02:6b8:0::/52]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yandex.ru]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; IP_SCORE(-1.73)[ipnet: 2a02:6b8::/32(-4.81), asn: 13238(-3.85), country: RU(0.00)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yandex.ru:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx.yandex.ru]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yandex.ru,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.962,0]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yandex.ru]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13238, ipnet:2a02:6b8::/32, country:RU]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[0.1.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.0.1.0.8.0.0.0.0.0.8.b.6.0.2.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 17:15:11 -0000 29.01.2019, 21:41, "Matthew Seaman" : > When you build world, you first spend a lot of time building a new > toolchain using your systems' installed toolchain. This new toolchain > is what appears to be broken in the output you show. Matthew many thanks for detailed explanation! But in verbose output (with -v flag), it shows "/usr/bin/ld" --sysroot=/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp ....... and in /var/log/messages appears such line: Jan 29 01:13:43 BSD-NUC kernel: pid 65946 (ld.lld), jid 0, uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) So it seems that segfaulting /usr/bin/ld from base? As you say, that first time spend for toolchain building, can I separatedly build and install first toolchain, and after that restart building world with correctly toolchain installed? I think that this problem appears after my forgot at some moment some step in buildworld procedure. I'm install kernel and not install world or something similar. So maybe now it is not synchronized... :( > > So, you may well have a perfectly good toolchain installed, but a source > tree that is defective -- mistakes do happen, and it can break building > the world. I'm svnlite ports every day for a 2 weeks and every new revision has identical errors. > > In this case, you can do the following to give yourself the best chance > of building world successfully again: > >     * delete everything under /usr/obj > >     * check out the most recent sources using git or svn or svnlite or >       whatever you prefer > >     * restart the build I'm try this several times for last 2 weeks. I'm try rm -rf /usr/obj rm -rf /usr/src svnlite https://svn.freebsd.org/base/head /usr/src cd /usr/src make buildworld And error appears. > > Check the output from your buildworld and buildkernel for any errors and > don't install unless the compile was error free. > > Consider whether 13-CURRENT is the right version for you to run. It is > a development version and is not guaranteed to run correctly (or at > all). You're expected to be able to cope with such problems when you > run it. You will find -STABLE or -RELEASE a smoother ride and more > performant to boot, as those code branches have certain performance > impacting debugging code turned off. That's in most case test machine, just for "bleeding edge fun" :) And all debugging I'm turn off from kernel and MALLOC_PRODUCTION=true set. > >         Cheers, > >         Matthew > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 18:51:54 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1715814C76FA for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 18:51:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx32.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8139294763 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 18:51:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (unknown [127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2FD61F1 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:31:57 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.32.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YGh9AqkpfNS2 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:31:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9039161E2 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:31:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:31:40 -0500 Message-ID: <6505fe1d48e61076b6930f9a992051d7.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: <9aaa35912b122e88e667e7516ba6a865.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> References: <9aaa35912b122e88e667e7516ba6a865.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:31:40 -0500 Subject: Re: RSYNC changes file name From: "James B. 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Byrne wrote: > I am using rsync to backup a cyrus-imap maildir tree. Messages are > stored in the maildir with files names consisting of a number followed > by a trailing dot. For example '12345,' My problem is that when > rsync copies the files from the maildir to the backup device the file > names that it creates on the target lack the tailing dot. So the > message '12345.' becomes '12345' on the target. > Further testing reveals that this anomaly does not happen when the rsync target is on the system HDD. It does happen when the target is a USB flash memory drive. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 19:23:50 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A3E14C8A23 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0A9095CAC for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:23:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MSLAe-1ghzPp0Ebw-00ScXB; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:23:33 +0100 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:23:32 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Arthur Chance Cc: Lorenzo Salvadore , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Replacing base commands with pkg versions Message-Id: <20190129202332.7f7023ea.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <2WSWeqA769U9_j-YlfypjYKPgycGgCJH_5-w2PzJSegmBaHtZtTie7Kht_IANZU2s9xDJSE8kiDBP_9EvUj7ccQa1uevCPPiyoOAIm03fPo=@protonmail.ch> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:ooSCbjbqs056sCTI36gcJYIVrd3v4CpDkl7vIgkAXKb2h89TEnB W+xr+l95sHve01Qvraod9DNyDVkTM2+v02wcrOj72hYsE1+eN5z2ZeYYkADLiO9hqJG5lNF rohMpCVcULAb4guyvs/8GrTRNuCGVFdm9U2El1m8VPqdM/yCfP5/GTlAtsuwNoBZOzChd5m 4jwpmYkT1Sb+TVFsuCLsQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:IHA8k/N11Wg=:vS9XDZqnRfr7PUhHnZi5dN rmjz58WywUj7ZUctCNjdpAjyWSvGku2q1Hg5dZywHaZKI7al8uGU9JwRJxYKUR3crSZJnREMQ 3uM7DNj7BiVThZCyBOp7E+SKYcMFlGyyBi10Gzde9QXPMzvtlll15O9EkIEhKNPKaN5qlpXLZ w5NFyIwgWvNpusn3QE/+1/l2hbewm0D56oGJvDXraY+UcPCtxbB4XaqlkFXVFqfpzOAMICqJw N2+FsDAu5F5VB0R7l2yMrO9SBH/P12UruKJ2RirsNdXBRAMxRaYu0U0VePCPPJSy+O8ClwqT1 jfd2b6kU/Xq5H897KRrQ1e6o/J36yWzvs7sIRZurfhJdaTqq57fcDbl/Amlz57uEosPIzft6H ICExhmV0oIb3Ft4r7V3TQsw2Iv+I/K7ucH+b5yZdjNbCjDkgfOGriJNn+fiyJnjML+KBJCry4 oUE3jJjWcBMwEjD9/2bo9bCP2wotXO+uRRA0qK/A0FURnrSTnukBEBrXxnyFAT0h1U2ZcX736 0LigVbKrFVlrJVVl7keGQvSXwMuGLrO9YGUCrYYAM2LHTHBxl/cvqCUzNDxC6X5rt97C7alBB 59XOqfmgb8SgpjgCkPe6nItE+dAmSNWaYkP5tmoochyKas2bf9h6PDbo3UlrTyvVoUUlPopzy 0vO6oKBZ39JmLfuS+SvdDoq+IewrRAGDoZuri7azkuUxVmOvQqJyVPhSf48L3pVo9x1I1i1mf h/LMCbWuU+Q3mkaMMEIBXr8SF/wlA4IEb6EwlZnc4H1MVKBSrNCmOlDdSzc= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B0A9095CAC X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.76 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx01.schlund.de,mx00.schlund.de]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[69.226.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.30)[0.301,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.91)[0.906,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.96)[0.956,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[135.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.21)[ip: (-0.36), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-0.71), asn: 8560(2.14), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:23:50 -0000 On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 12:35:14 +0000, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 29/01/2019 12:31, Lorenzo Salvadore via freebsd-questions wrote: > >> What is the recommended way of dealing with the base versions of > >> commands when installing a package version instead? Should I chmod -x > >> the base executable(s), delete them or rename them? What happens if I > >> subsequently do a freebsd-update - do the base executables get > >> reinstated or are they ignored? > >> > >> The specific case I'm interested in is unbound under 11.2, but this > >> applies to a variety of programs (CUPS vs base lpr, or base vs pkg llvm > >> come to mind) and if there's any official guidance on this I've missed it. > > > > I cannot give you an official answer, but if you always want to have the pkg > > version getting precedence on the base version, I would reorder the PATH > > variable. > > > > If instead you want to mix versions, I would not change the base system, I > > would rather create aliases for the shell. > > In this case I specifically want to disable the base commands, and want > them to be disabled under all circumstances, hence the suggestions of > chmod -x, etc. I have dealt with older CUPS installations that way: Sure, you can change $PATH, but you need to do this everywhere and universally if you don't want some of the base programs to be accidentally called. Using chmod -x is one way, renaming them (for my specific example: lpq -> lpq.base) is another. A third option is to delete the binary altogether. But be careful that every time you update your system, your changes will be reverted! So a "post-update" script would be needed. Some programs can be removed from the installation upon system generation, i. e, with src.conf, you can omit building and installing certain parts. But this will only work if you update from source _and_ the parts you want to disable can actually be disabled. With packaged base, soon, this will probably be much easier. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 19:26:44 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2340314C8BA4 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:26:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx32.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7787395EA3 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:26:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (unknown [127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E1160D4 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 09:36:49 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.32.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id emGFd8Czj0cC for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 09:36:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CCE8960C9 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 09:36:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 09:36:47 -0500 Message-ID: <9aaa35912b122e88e667e7516ba6a865.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 09:36:47 -0500 Subject: RSYNC changes file name From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.23 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 7787395EA3 X-Spamd-Bar: -------- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.48 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca]; RBL_COMPOSITE_RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED_DWL_DNSWL_LOW(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:216.185.71.0/26]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[harte-lyne.ca:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[harte-lyne.ca,quarantine]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[32.71.185.216.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.4.2]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx32.harte-lyne.ca]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12021, ipnet:216.185.64.0/20, country:CA]; IP_SCORE(-3.78)[ip: (-9.91), ipnet: 216.185.64.0/20(-4.95), asn: 12021(-3.96), country: CA(-0.09)]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[harte-lyne.ca:s=dkim_hll]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(0.00)[harte-lyne.ca.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.4.1]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.993,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:26:44 -0000 I am using rsync to backup a cyrus-imap maildir tree. Messages are stored in the maildir with files names considing of a number followed by a trailing dot. For example '12345,' My problem is that when rsync copies the files from the maildir to the backup device the file names that it creates on the target lack the tailing dot. So the message '12345.' becomes '12345' on the target. I have not experienced this behaviour before. The transfer command I used is: rsync \ --copy-links \ --no-group \ --no-perms \ --progress \ --protect-args \ --modify-window=1 \ --recursive \ --times \ --update \ --verbose \ /home/byrnejb_hll/Documents/Personal/IMAP/byrnejb_hll \ /media/KINGSTON/vhost04/byrnejb_hll/Documents/Personal/IMAP/byrnejb_hll If I add a --delete-before option to the command then all of the messages files without trailing dots are deleted and then recreated. Therefore there is no gain in transfer speed since the existing files are not recognised by rsync as being the same as it is about to create on transfer. The progress messages look like this: byrnejb_hll/INBOX^Trash/206. 55,961 100% 100.83kB/s 0:00:00 (xfr#16261, ir-chk=9826/26446) So the source file is recognised as having a trailing dot but the resulting target file does not have it. Is there some switch required to handle this? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 19:32:10 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14E114C8E0D for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:32:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asv@inhio.net) Received: from cz-prg-mx-01.inhio.net (mail.inhio.net [178.238.36.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B562D963D3; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:32:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asv@inhio.net) Received: from titanio (titanio.inhio.net [10.0.0.21]) by cz-prg-mx-01.inhio.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F337521D1A; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:31:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: Subject: Re: PF issue since 11.2-RELEASE From: ASV To: Kristof Provost Cc: questions list Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:31:53 +0100 In-Reply-To: <51F0845A-2BB3-4BC9-977D-BB0E6C305ED3@FreeBSD.org> References: <989e79372513e9769c6857b531f14df8ce0b6f3a.camel@inhio.net> <51F0845A-2BB3-4BC9-977D-BB0E6C305ED3@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-UU1uDKv5/tllAjBdc87J" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B562D963D3 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of asv@inhio.net designates 178.238.36.226 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=asv@inhio.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.67 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.994,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[inhio.net]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(0.01)[country: CZ(0.03)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.inhio.net]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.88)[-0.876,0]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24971, ipnet:178.238.32.0/20, country:CZ]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:32:10 -0000 --=-UU1uDKv5/tllAjBdc87J Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK, I understand. Here it follows my pf.conf: ext_if=3D"lagg0" tun0_if=3D"tun0" B01=3D"172.16.3.2" K01=3D"172.16.3.3" W01=3D"172.16.3.4" W03=3D"172.16.3.5" K02=3D"172.16.3.6" W02=3D"172.16.3.7" set skip on lo set limit table-entries 700000 scrub in all #nat on $ext_if from $B01 to any -> ($ext_if:0) #nat on $ext_if from $K01 to any -> ($ext_if:0) #nat on $ext_if from $K02 to any -> ($ext_if:0) nat on $ext_if from $W03 to any -> ($ext_if:0) nat on $ext_if from $W01 to any -> ($ext_if:0) nat on $ext_if from $W02 to any -> ($ext_if:0) rdr on $ext_if proto tcp from any to 170.100.0.124 port 80 -> 172.16.3.4 po= rt 80 rdr on $ext_if proto tcp from any to 170.100.0.124 port 443 -> 172.16.3.4 p= ort 443 rdr on $ext_if proto tcp from any to 170.100.0.126 port 587 -> 170.100.0.12= 6 port 25 rdr on $tun0_if proto tcp from any to 170.100.0.126 port 587 -> 170.100.0.1= 26 port 25 rdr on $ext_if proto { tcp, udp } from any to 170.100.0.131 port 53 -> 172.= 17.2.8 rdr on $ext_if proto tcp from any to 170.100.0.124 port 10009 -> 172.16.3.6 rdr on $ext_if proto tcp from any to 170.100.0.124 port 10012 -> 172.16.3.7 antispoof quick for { lo $ext_if } block in log (all) all pass out log (all) on $ext_if pass in on $tun0_if pass out on $tun0_if table <0_KNOWN_SPAMMERS> persist file "/etc/0_KNOWN_SPAMMERS" table persist anchor "ftp-proxy/*" anchor f2b { anchor sip { block in quick log to any } } block in quick on $ext_if from <0_KNOWN_SPAMMERS> pass in quick log on $tun0_if from 10.0.0.0/26 tag ZONE1 modulate state pass in quick log on $tun0_if from 172.17.2.0/28 tag ZONE2 modulate state pass in quick log on $tun0_if from 172.16.0.0/27 tag ZONE3 modulate state pass in quick on $ext_if proto icmp from any to { 170.100.0.124, 170.100.0.= 126, 170.100.0.127, 170.100.0.128, 170.100.0.129, 170.100.0.130, 170.100.0.= 131 } keep state icmp-type echoreq pass in log on $ext_if proto tcp from any to 170.100.0.124 port 10000 synpr= oxy state \ (max-src-conn 6, max-src-conn-rate 3/1, overload f= lush global) pass in log on $ext_if proto tcp from any to 170.100.0.125 port 10001 synpr= oxy state \ (max-src-conn 6, max-src-conn-rate 3/1, overload f= lush global) pass in log on $ext_if proto tcp from any to 170.100.0.126 port 10003 synpr= oxy state \ (max-src-conn 6, max-src-conn-rate 3/1, overload f= lush global) pass in log on $ext_if proto tcp from any to 170.100.0.127 port 10004 synpr= oxy state \ (max-src-conn 6, max-src-conn-rate 3/1, overload f= lush global) #pass in log on $ext_if proto tcp from any to 170.100.0.128 port 10007 synp= roxy state \ # (max-src-conn 6, max-src-conn-rate 3/1, overload = flush global) #pass in log on $ext_if proto tcp from any to 170.100.0.129 port 10008 synp= roxy state \ # (max-src-conn 6, max-src-conn-rate 3/1, overload = flush global) pass in log on $ext_if proto tcp from any to 170.100.0.130 port 10011 synpr= oxy state \ (max-src-conn 6, max-src-conn-rate 3/1, overload f= lush global) pass in log on $ext_if proto tcp from any to 172.16.3.6 port 10009 synproxy= state \ (max-src-conn 6, max-src-conn-rate 3/1, overload f= lush global) pass in log on $ext_if proto tcp from any to 172.16.3.7 port 10012 synproxy= state \ (max-src-conn 6, max-src-conn-rate 3/1, overload f= lush global) pass in log on $ext_if proto udp from any to 170.100.0.125 port 5060 keep s= tate pass in log on $ext_if proto tcp from any to 170.100.0.125 port 5061 keep s= tate pass in on $ext_if proto udp from any to 170.100.0.125 port 10000:30000 kee= p state pass in log on $ext_if proto tcp from any to 170.100.0.126 port { 25, 143, = 587 } synproxy state pass in log on $ext_if proto { tcp, udp } from any to 170.100.0.127 port 53= synproxy state pass in log on $ext_if proto { tcp, udp } from { 72.45.24.0/20, 80.0.0.100 = } to 170.100.0.124 port 1194 pass in log on $ext_if proto tcp from any to 172.16.3.4 port { 80, 443 } sy= nproxy state pass in log on $ext_if proto tcp from any to 170.100.0.128 port { 80, 443 }= synproxy state pass in log on $ext_if proto tcp from any to 170.100.0.130 port { 80, 443 }= synproxy state pass in quick log on $ext_if from any to 172.17.2.8 synproxy state On Mon, 2019-01-28 at 09:28 +0100, Kristof Provost wrote: > On 27 Jan 2019, at 19:03, ASV wrote: > > On Sun, 2019-01-27 at 16:08 +0100, Kristof Provost wrote: > > > On 26 Jan 2019, at 17:00, ASV wrote: > > > > since I've upgraded to 11.2 (from 11.1) I've observed that > > > > anytime > > > > I > > > > change something on pf.conf and reload (pfctl -f /etc/pf.conf) > > > > I > > > > partially loose connectivity. Partially means that I still am > > > > connected > > > > to the server but the server cannot connect anywhere or ping > > > > anything > > > > (no hosts no IPs) also the jails instantly suffers from the > > > > same. > > >=20 > > > That sounds like your established connection continues (because > > > it > > > keeps > > > using the old rules), and something is wrong with the new rules. > >=20 > > Hi and thanks for your reply! > > This is not the case as I'm modifying NAT rules so I'm not > > expecting > > anything to start being blocked but the reverse. > >=20 > > > The logical debugging steps would be: > > > - check the ruleset matches what you expect (pfctl -s rules) > > > - check the state table (pfctl -s states) > > > - use pflog to determine what rule causes traffic to be dropped > > >=20 > > > > The quickest fix is to revert the PF configuration to the > > > > previous > > > > one > > > > and reload. Everything starts working again. > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > What do you mean by =E2=80=98previous one=E2=80=99? Do you have two r= ulesets? > > > What > > > are the two rulesets? > >=20 > > The configuration hasn't been changed in ages and when I need to > > upgrade the ports of a couple of jails which are NOT routed to the > > internet I simply un-comment few NAT lines and reload the pf conf. > > I've > > been doing this specific action for almost 7 years, never a > > problem. > > Therefore there is no problem in the rules. > >=20 > > For previous ruleset I mean that since the jails start losing > > connectivity (as long as I "push" the new ruleset) with internet > > and > > with each other, I re-comment these lines and reload. Sometime it > > works > > sometime it doesn't and I need to: > >=20 > > service pf restart > >=20 > > which obviously forces me to re-login. > >=20 > > > > I've been trying to find the root cause of this without > > > > success. > > > > Did I > > > > miss some major change on the PF port on FreeBSD? I've never > > > > seen > > > > this > > > > serious issue before nor on FreeBSD neither on OpenBSD. > > >=20 > > > It=E2=80=99s very difficult to debug this with the extremely limited > > > information you=E2=80=99ve included. > > > Please post, at the very least, your pf ruleset and a full > > > description > > > of what you=E2=80=99re doing when things break and how you recover. > >=20 > > #nat on $ext_if from $SRV01 to any -> ($ext_if:0) > > #nat on $ext_if from $SRV02 to any -> ($ext_if:0) > > #nat on $ext_if from $SRV03 to any -> ($ext_if:0) > >=20 > > not much really. But the same happens with other rules. Basically > > whatever I modify there now requires a full pf restart, which is > > not > > very practical as it kicks me out. > >=20 > > I'm also having plenty of issues using fail2ban, just to mention > > another as it is somehow related (even though a broader topic), > > where > > rules are in place but aren't enforced. > >=20 > > # pfctl -a f2b/asterisk-udp -t f2b-asterisk-udp -Ts > > > > > > > >=20 > > # pfctl -a f2b/asterisk-udp -t f2b-asterisk-udp -s rules > > block drop quick proto udp from to any port =3D > > sip > > block drop quick proto udp from to any port =3D > > sip-tls > >=20 > > then killing the state (if any) and check: > > # pfctl -k ; tcpdump udp -nettt -i pflog0 > > port 5060 and host > > killed 1 states from 1 sources and 0 destinations > > tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol > > decode > > listening on pflog0, link-type PFLOG (OpenBSD pflog file), capture > > size 262144 bytes > > 00:00:00.000000 rule 24/0(match): pass in on lagg0: > address>.6175 > .5060: SIP: REGISTER sip: > ip address> SIP/2.0 > > 00:01:07.344401 rule 24/0(match): pass in on lagg0: > address>.6115 > .5060: SIP: REGISTER sip: > ip address> SIP/2.0 > > 00:00:39.690851 rule 24/0(match): pass in on lagg0: > address>.6158 > .5060: SIP: REGISTER sip: > ip address> SIP/2.0 > > 00:00:43.058753 rule 24/0(match): pass in on lagg0: > address>.6179 > .5060: SIP: REGISTER sip: > ip address> SIP/2.0 > > 00:00:43.912680 rule 24/0(match): pass in on lagg0: > address>.6119 > .5060: SIP: REGISTER sip: > ip address> SIP/2.0 > >=20 > > it is clearly not enforcing the rules. > >=20 >=20 > Please share the full pf.conf. I=E2=80=99m sure you understand that I can= not > debug your problem without *full* information. >=20 > Regards, > Kristof --=-UU1uDKv5/tllAjBdc87J Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCgAdFiEE5dE8BwbhhcQw2TsezaQsUNd+zIkFAlxQqikACgkQzaQsUNd+ zImgtQf9EYMNlBa7LCRgW1DtI3Jixrucp9Yi5MDV6o2a2qgsrOtdS63Za6jrOLIc /su/Qp9voOhzs5rPtfZ7jNHEBapErnytmlZ/GzkQ2aIwAM8/rUK7sb3w9L66NAnl AH7zXh2lEEQS3i9ptEGemq//gEn7UbLnbsHskCMPLRLBPNFAVAn6JP1u8n5eiBkh 3LubHaNvteeB4Cn2uYKic3vZMQZnH1naPOu4jBMoQE0xEgQlEfMPVKlKEjENgBLA 1kwhHFIaim6gjK9MoueeiF9vYGc7Rrx+gpLnSHykUfRGoaFIUdCCLYx6NI/6NhXq qqqinzX4nNTW5mDAXPfwVnROrwU5Pg== =kYB/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-UU1uDKv5/tllAjBdc87J-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 19:33:10 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707BC14C8FE9 for ; 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Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6505fe1d48e61076b6930f9a992051d7.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: fr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:33:10 -0000 Le 29/01/2019 à 18:31, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions a écrit : > > On Tue, January 29, 2019 09:36, James B. Byrne wrote: >> I am using rsync to backup a cyrus-imap maildir tree. Messages are >> stored in the maildir with files names consisting of a number followed >> by a trailing dot. For example '12345,' My problem is that when >> rsync copies the files from the maildir to the backup device the file >> names that it creates on the target lack the tailing dot. So the >> message '12345.' becomes '12345' on the target. >> > Further testing reveals that this anomaly does not happen when the > rsync target is on the system HDD. It does happen when the target is > a USB flash memory drive. > What is the filesystem of your USB drive ? if it is FAT, the . is a special separator between name and extension and so your file is 12345 without extension. I do not know about NTFS in this respect From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 19:36:15 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076C814C91EE for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:36:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=rafl=qf=vega.codepro.be=kp@codepro.be) Received: from venus.codepro.be (venus.codepro.be [5.9.86.228]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.codepro.be", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C04CE966A7 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:36:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=rafl=qf=vega.codepro.be=kp@codepro.be) Received: from vega.codepro.be (unknown [172.16.1.3]) by venus.codepro.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EED10AAE; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:36:10 +0100 (CET) Received: by vega.codepro.be (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8C77E1B0116; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:36:10 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:36:10 +0100 From: Kristof Provost To: ASV Cc: questions list Subject: Re: PF issue since 11.2-RELEASE Message-ID: <20190129193609.GB57976@vega.codepro.be> References: <989e79372513e9769c6857b531f14df8ce0b6f3a.camel@inhio.net> <51F0845A-2BB3-4BC9-977D-BB0E6C305ED3@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Checked-By-NSA: Probably User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C04CE966A7 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=fail reason="" header.from=sigsegv.be (policy=none); spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of srs0=rafl=qf=vega.codepro.be=kp@codepro.be designates 5.9.86.228 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=srs0=rafl=qf=vega.codepro.be=kp@codepro.be X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.78 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:5.9.86.228]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[228.86.9.5.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.9.2]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx2.codepro.be,mx1.codepro.be]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.85)[-0.850,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.82)[ipnet: 5.9.0.0/16(-1.83), asn: 24940(-2.28), country: DE(-0.01)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[kristof@sigsegv.be,srs0=rafl=qf=vega.codepro.be=kp@codepro.be]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:5.9.0.0/16, country:DE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[kristof@sigsegv.be,srs0=rafl=qf=vega.codepro.be=kp@codepro.be]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[sigsegv.be : SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM, none] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:36:15 -0000 On 2019-01-29 20:31:53 (+0100), ASV wrote: > OK, I understand. Here it follows my pf.conf: > > ext_if="lagg0" > tun0_if="tun0" > B01="172.16.3.2" > K01="172.16.3.3" > W01="172.16.3.4" > W03="172.16.3.5" > K02="172.16.3.6" > W02="172.16.3.7" > > set skip on lo Try 'set skip on lo0' There have been issues with groups in 'set skip' handling. They *should* be fixed in CURRENT, but 11.2 is affected. Regards, Kristof From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 19:40:51 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5300014C9446 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:40:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 463A2968F8 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 19:40:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N9MlI-1hBZnb2zbQ-015IhZ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:40:35 +0100 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:40:33 +0100 From: Polytropon To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: "James B. 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Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > So the source file is recognised as having a trailing dot but the > resulting target file does not have it. What filesystems are involved here? Ssource is UFS or ZFS, I assume, but destination? Maybe it's a filesystem _name_ restriction issue that leads to a silent automatic conversion (here: data loss)? Just a WAG... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Gpart reports the file system is type 12 which I believe is some variant of FAT. MS Windows does not permit file names ending in either a dot or a space. The filesystem silently truncates the offending character. I discovered this by trying to touch a file named 'seventeen.' which showed up as 'seventeen' instead. It would have been nice to have that munging reported. On Tue, January 29, 2019 14:40, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 09:36:47 -0500, James B. Byrne via > freebsd-questions wrote: >> So the source file is recognised as having a trailing dot but the >> resulting target file does not have it. > > What filesystems are involved here? Ssource is UFS or ZFS, > I assume, but destination? Maybe it's a filesystem _name_ > restriction issue that leads to a silent automatic conversion > (here: data loss)? Just a WAG... ;-) > > > -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 20:44:02 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E7F14CB266 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:44:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DCB686A884 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:44:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MTRIi-1gj79238I8-00TjtD; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 21:43:52 +0100 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 21:43:51 +0100 From: Polytropon To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: "James B. 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Byrne wrote: > Gpart reports the file system is type 12 which I believe is some > variant of FAT. MS Windows does not permit file names ending in > either a dot or a space. The filesystem silently truncates the > offending character. Ha, just as I thought. :-) If you're going to use the target medium for FreeBSD only (i. e., you won't access it from "Windows"), why not initialize it with UFS? There are even tunefs options that can help optimizing access to specific media, like USB sticks or SD cards. In fact, there even isn't a need for a partition table, if you for example do "newfs /dev/da0" (where da0 corresponds to the medium in question), and then you can use it as "mount -t ufs /dev/da0 /mnt" without problems. Filenames will then correctly be stored. Suggestion: For backing up FreeBSD stuff, keep using FreeBSD stuff. :-) > I discovered this by trying to touch a file named 'seventeen.' which > showed up as 'seventeen' instead. > > It would have been nice to have that munging reported. Inside the VFS tree, the copying process is handled transparently, so rsync (or touch) do not get back an error they could report. However, the "error" will happen at the VFS driver (here: FAT driver) addressed in the "deeper" levels of the VFS, so it would maybe be possible to issue a kernel message which could be shown on the console or at least in the system log. Knowing about restrictions specific to filesystems is important for the FAT and NTFS drivers to keep the r/w mounted filesystems in a consistent state; using "forbidden filenames" can cause the strangest effects in "Windows"... ;-) NUL: -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 20:49:54 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961C814CB447 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:49:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx32.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DF8C6AAE2 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:49:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (unknown [127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9435F6586 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:49:52 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.32.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S32kqh07baF7 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:49:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5B0FE657B for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:49:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:49:50 -0500 Message-ID: <89d35da1979a0e295bce2d3f272b285c.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:49:50 -0500 Subject: Cannot print from mate desktop From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.23 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9DF8C6AAE2 X-Spamd-Bar: -------- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.48 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca]; RBL_COMPOSITE_RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED_DWL_DNSWL_LOW(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:216.185.71.0/26]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[harte-lyne.ca:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[harte-lyne.ca,quarantine]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx32.harte-lyne.ca]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[32.71.185.216.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.4.2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12021, ipnet:216.185.64.0/20, country:CA]; IP_SCORE(-3.78)[ip: (-9.91), ipnet: 216.185.64.0/20(-4.95), asn: 12021(-3.96), country: CA(-0.09)]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[harte-lyne.ca:s=dkim_hll]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(0.00)[harte-lyne.ca.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.4.1]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.987,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:49:54 -0000 FreeBSD-11.2p8 Following a massive pkg update this morning, followed by a freebsd-update install and restart, I now discover that I cannot print from the mate desktop. When I print from any application on the desktop, libreoffice, pluma, firefox, the printer dialogue shows up, the print job is generated, but nothing prints on the printer. Nor can I find any printer management applet in the toolbar. I can print test pages from cups web admin. At least that is what the software claims. But they do not appear on the printer either. Nor are they reported in the lpr queue or on the CUPS web admin page. The printer self test page can be generated from CUPS. The spooler appears to be working. # lpstat -a cups-pdf accepting requests since Thu Nov 22 10:12:47 2018 np4172 accepting requests since Tue Jan 29 15:31:51 2019 np4173 accepting requests since Tue Jan 29 14:40:46 2019 np4174 accepting requests since Mon Jan 14 15:07:11 2019 np4175 accepting requests since Mon Jan 14 18:06:15 2019 But CUPs reports two jobs as stopped and restarting them does not get to print. Instead they show up in the completed job list as aborted. cat /var/spool/lpd/np4172/status sending to np4172 Enscript from the command line prints, but the duplex option selected did not have any effect. I reused an earlier command which had previously printed as duplex. Is there a package required for mate to have printing capabilities? If what is its name? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 21:08:35 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF3614CBAD6 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 21:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5635E6B606 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 21:08:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MsZBb-1h91BJ3OhP-00u147; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 22:08:18 +0100 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 22:08:17 +0100 From: Polytropon To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: "James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: Cannot print from mate desktop Message-Id: <20190129220817.4ba4fec2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <89d35da1979a0e295bce2d3f272b285c.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> References: <89d35da1979a0e295bce2d3f272b285c.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:kHoT3Hy+pr/B/Xg0YSMPG7tW6yV1unv3iYXjUqPM0ql2eGsnEr0 6nLdPo/rt2qBziStbiQbzKwWFTcM6MPLsZP2eTOS0BGNEDImrS05PBt430c0xhBoN6s4/2+ sdr9aOJPjssMInfTRmj+bLQI3haRqZyXgRiOrbGfJafqw2CXIJaHidY4daBNHrW8TxZLkhv mCgS8nV7wOXkSDXHbDUXw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:poRgqe+hHL0=:cJW08xb3wrcf0EEMwa23Hb /RuJC6OlREJ8QWMKQ034peLdeOgIA9b0OBsl+ru8VCr559cP0mdG9ZsAXUYnzAZdyac1RVMoD AgFMk+DGa/mtkG0slFx9gwUqicltHN6pX4soGO7pkLBo11siNNkTUHccaeFOq2Ihy77Eu1el0 5Oq54kmnVkbDsKMjj5RNPaZ0iGv6+q1GykUoszf+SssDDoWvOAip1AYg6voOabB0AdljGlQ7m QzWpErEx6ebPenVUvAxauyZmCIepybIb7D5NnED8ujGDVW61k/BWFRZBtSh910dE4egkuVc2V 0NlEHOPHrC61KT2urYl/kLDARG6qSnnfBXYcZDERN+vgkvrBDqbaeycql9MsSXLCurThf08LH wuFWPXStOHl4SGWv8BgNn53mWn2swW/auZu12te98OYfu2yHvBjwT1de5xRLmTXbeRDIlADya 2ukXxJxI3BOVqO9FRjopmU1nq/BGKMqn9fI7ZReSRhKpnH/TXKV2Rmg733crO4so7ip27+oqh BSFrpMRj+yVMyMCnSLNhE88RX8vChIEUdB7RLS9rfjveGVzhnA48s39F5NBUFU3olGau31Y5U Rh7kIG+7NO0w8/0ItrsyE6Ar7npfHWlmJR77jMV0RxVxZMW4BMgcvOROYrQKxEPx2tPpiVQ9u V91vmZn96bmYBglM88Q/VEV20PZrSAjUiMO7E8T8NnsKD2ki46qYceMAFnUMHJK8FeBiDgo3u eId6j4r5s9HYYaG6u2sQ+XiuxWJVsZobDwoP2W/1JihkN1vhNIYcMqT2HOA= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5635E6B606 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.21 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx01.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[69.226.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.59)[0.592,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.96)[0.956,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.986,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.28)[ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-0.71), asn: 8560(2.14), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 21:08:36 -0000 On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:49:50 -0500, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > FreeBSD-11.2p8 > > Following a massive pkg update this morning, followed by a > freebsd-update install and restart, I now discover that I cannot print > from the mate desktop. When I print from any application on the > desktop, libreoffice, pluma, firefox, the printer dialogue shows up, > the print job is generated, but nothing prints on the printer. Nor > can I find any printer management applet in the toolbar. > > I can print test pages from cups web admin. At least that is what the > software claims. But they do not appear on the printer either. Nor > are they reported in the lpr queue or on the CUPS web admin page. The > printer self test page can be generated from CUPS. > > The spooler appears to be working. Do the jobs get stuck in the queue, or do they simply disappear from it? Check CUPS's error log file to see if there is something related to post-queue job handling (like printer filter missing). > # lpstat -a > cups-pdf accepting requests since Thu Nov 22 10:12:47 2018 > np4172 accepting requests since Tue Jan 29 15:31:51 2019 > np4173 accepting requests since Tue Jan 29 14:40:46 2019 > np4174 accepting requests since Mon Jan 14 15:07:11 2019 > np4175 accepting requests since Mon Jan 14 18:06:15 2019 > > But CUPs reports two jobs as stopped and restarting them does not get > to print. Instead they show up in the completed job list as aborted. That is very strange. Make sure you can "cupsenable " and "cupsaccept " the printer. After doing so, check the error log file again. > cat /var/spool/lpd/np4172/status > sending to np4172 > > Enscript from the command line prints, but the duplex option selected > did not have any effect. I reused an earlier command which had > previously printed as duplex. I'm using gs (GhostScript) for this, works quite nicely. > Is there a package required for mate to have printing capabilities? If > what is its name? I think it's not a Mate problem, from what you're describing. Some "moving parts" of CUPS have been disturbed. You should be able to do things like "lpr something.pdf" via CLI, and it should work as expected - job appears in "lpq" output, then printer starts printing, "lpq" output is empty. As you have verified that you can print directly, without using CUPS, the problem won't be the printer. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 21:13:50 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE2B14CBE44 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 21:13:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx32.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D11A16BA33 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 21:13:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (unknown [127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 488096660; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:13:48 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.32.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3mdwK1bRWOCA; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:13:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CB1166651; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:13:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:13:46 -0500 Message-ID: <18bd6c1326e011634c5b548e5cfd94aa.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: <20190129214351.2f32c04c.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <9aaa35912b122e88e667e7516ba6a865.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <20190129204033.7312742f.freebsd@edvax.de> <10a14c28507feee71572a2573d319fc3.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <20190129214351.2f32c04c.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:13:46 -0500 Subject: Re: RSYNC changes file name From: "James B. Byrne" To: "Polytropon" Cc: "James B. 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Byrne wrote: >> Gpart reports the file system is type 12 which I believe is some >> variant of FAT. MS Windows does not permit file names ending in >> either a dot or a space. The filesystem silently truncates the >> offending character. > > Ha, just as I thought. :-) > > If you're going to use the target medium for FreeBSD > only (i. e., you won't access it from "Windows"), why > not initialize it with UFS? There are even tunefs > options that can help optimizing access to specific > media, like USB sticks or SD cards. In fact, there > even isn't a need for a partition table, if you for > example do "newfs /dev/da0" (where da0 corresponds > to the medium in question), and then you can use it > as "mount -t ufs /dev/da0 /mnt" without problems. > Filenames will then correctly be stored. > > Suggestion: For backing up FreeBSD stuff, keep using > FreeBSD stuff. :-) > The resulting archives must be readable on a windows OS. It is a portable backup which may have to be used in situations where any form of *nix will not be available to me. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 21:18:21 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8594C14CC036 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 21:18:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx32.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE2706BBFA for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 21:18:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (unknown [127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DDD2666C for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:18:21 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.32.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q-PFJHAhPSI4; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:18:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D02C86661; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:18:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:18:19 -0500 Message-ID: <54bae3e7bb8e600ffffdbd1f5ab65a45.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: <89d35da1979a0e295bce2d3f272b285c.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> References: <89d35da1979a0e295bce2d3f272b285c.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:18:19 -0500 Subject: Re: Cannot print from mate desktop From: "James B. 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Byrne wrote: > FreeBSD-11.2p8 > > Following a massive pkg update this morning, followed by a > freebsd-update install and restart, I now discover that I cannot print > from the mate desktop. When I print from any application on the > desktop, libreoffice, pluma, firefox, the printer dialogue shows up, > the print job is generated, but nothing prints on the printer. Nor > can I find any printer management applet in the toolbar. > Now I get this from libreoffice: Could not start printer. Please check your printer configuration -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 21:21:43 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D46114CC26E for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 21:21:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17ECC6BDD4 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 21:21:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MC0HF-1h10tR0w9N-00CRVt; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 22:21:28 +0100 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 22:21:26 +0100 From: Polytropon To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: "James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: RSYNC changes file name Message-Id: <20190129222126.d0449659.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <18bd6c1326e011634c5b548e5cfd94aa.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> References: <9aaa35912b122e88e667e7516ba6a865.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <20190129204033.7312742f.freebsd@edvax.de> <10a14c28507feee71572a2573d319fc3.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <20190129214351.2f32c04c.freebsd@edvax.de> <18bd6c1326e011634c5b548e5cfd94aa.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:971GkPJdR385TTSfz9MeebmcacP4ma8P3Kiu2Er8VVwj6oXodiq ElxxaXFGGcgr13/bZNcpIzBT9EY7J+qfxxBvr8tIGlyzEp9ntFBibxAHumToBWnoLcYzDsE owinhvKngUuBeEcL6XrcAWCUPMtZ91DiKUPm9OcK44op3pNh9R57kfYdtL67yZgKxA0I9AH BmFYsYPgeJldnwZm2qItA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:RIaARIghMIA=:R4N+V/g26kLp097X0nvhLt 9zdVGkhoksOt7edkIRTA8uQ10XjEpMynOjoWFhsL3xBdEUHyDn8f6Vte0NXFNonw94x4X2+Hj Mzzdc4oGoLfuwbiBP27ZrFXTHYihoBF51r9vf7H7GRIqgiUGAlHUQ98ZbT25FsxM8jBoNxNZp zYounbAuCAMlCc282NtPtN0E1LRYvcftpVRzpFg6kz4+m+5rjsfZpiGIDRoPAX7J5lKD0BS8x hnfDtK1Qu1yaxDB6a4+5B9ZxBY7rWuPV4Tf+Mmi5ifEHd2MNnC6WTvi9wmETD1mkxIP6H961f OU9ZI45hVhxZ4tZi4r4pY31BCSG59eMDH3acpTt3GzYakWOlWIJGaULV+nX0sa242UdbLDAUe QPpJtSj2ZF2VSgmjZTXYOgeHNyfwOa5yn8FyO7SqZtcIOLuYkF25VNN0PyMvIl7Z/Fex4Z8oc TAt+g1fBsZC5ILuPEb3gdPnY2aZIRxM2T9yC62dRTNvQbf+qbU7emiqAmnGpGHWBpR3oidm41 ad+Ozx3Au1hWwC67P7NYjp+aT7+Ls8WNrnxbEgzGdyMOr0VjLZdpJfQt/diy1OrgrPfNzAMZg 8c/EgF05Pvr62UA8H8EVRDGUOHaObOgrLEBCu+GzfyWiN/zIwEHELkIiTyjOLcvoh7nio9dK+ OL6Om7jzNKnsicdQD1WMlh9p5yJX3iHTTvTYDLX9X/p+Ft5cEWEwT0wsPK4m5fmDTjhFbOsSl iWQbGPAxbS8EaV332tsAwQUGb7WPIbeQf3nq83DyIlPgjOUlddYOPiIZsTs= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 17ECC6BDD4 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [6.41 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx01.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[69.226.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.94)[0.938,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[130.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(1.08)[ip: (3.98), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-0.71), asn: 8560(2.13), country: DE(-0.01)] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 21:21:43 -0000 On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:13:46 -0500, James B. Byrne wrote: > > > On Tue, January 29, 2019 15:43, Polytropon wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:28:50 -0500, James B. Byrne wrote: > >> Gpart reports the file system is type 12 which I believe is some > >> variant of FAT. MS Windows does not permit file names ending in > >> either a dot or a space. The filesystem silently truncates the > >> offending character. > > > > Ha, just as I thought. :-) > > > > If you're going to use the target medium for FreeBSD > > only (i. e., you won't access it from "Windows"), why > > not initialize it with UFS? There are even tunefs > > options that can help optimizing access to specific > > media, like USB sticks or SD cards. In fact, there > > even isn't a need for a partition table, if you for > > example do "newfs /dev/da0" (where da0 corresponds > > to the medium in question), and then you can use it > > as "mount -t ufs /dev/da0 /mnt" without problems. > > Filenames will then correctly be stored. > > > > Suggestion: For backing up FreeBSD stuff, keep using > > FreeBSD stuff. :-) > > > > The resulting archives must be readable on a windows OS. It is a > portable backup which may have to be used in situations where any form > of *nix will not be available to me. You say, "the archives", but it seems you're copying bare files. A convenient to deal with this problem is to "encapsulate" the whole thing in a "| tar" pipe. There are versions of the tar program available even for "Windows". Inside a tar archive, a file "12345." can be stored, while the archive itself can have a name that does not violate FAT rules. Of course, this introduces another problem: Can you make sure that the system you'll be using will be able to use tar? It's not for the compression (which you _could_ use), just for the "encapsulation". But if you just need something to _store_ the file, not to _process_ it, it could be an option for you. I don't know about the specific scenarios you're preparing for, but as you talked about IMAP data in maildir format, I can imagine that you just could transfer a tar file from the "Windows" system to the actual IMAP server (for data restore), extract it _there_ - which will surely be some kind of UNIX system (FreeBSD, any BSD, Linux), and every UNIX system has a tar implementation. Just a thought. Summary: You cannot use FAT for backups when it will not allow the filenames to stay the same. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Byrne wrote: >> >> >> On Tue, January 29, 2019 15:43, Polytropon wrote: >> > On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:28:50 -0500, James B. Byrne wrote: >> >> Gpart reports the file system is type 12 which I believe is some >> >> variant of FAT. MS Windows does not permit file names ending in >> >> either a dot or a space. The filesystem silently truncates the >> >> offending character. >> > >> > Ha, just as I thought. :-) >> > >> > If you're going to use the target medium for FreeBSD >> > only (i. e., you won't access it from "Windows"), why >> > not initialize it with UFS? There are even tunefs >> > options that can help optimizing access to specific >> > media, like USB sticks or SD cards. In fact, there >> > even isn't a need for a partition table, if you for >> > example do "newfs /dev/da0" (where da0 corresponds >> > to the medium in question), and then you can use it >> > as "mount -t ufs /dev/da0 /mnt" without problems. >> > Filenames will then correctly be stored. >> > >> > Suggestion: For backing up FreeBSD stuff, keep using >> > FreeBSD stuff. :-) >> > >> >> The resulting archives must be readable on a windows OS. It is a >> portable backup which may have to be used in situations where any >> form >> of *nix will not be available to me. > > You say, "the archives", but it seems you're copying > bare files. A convenient to deal with this problem is > to "encapsulate" the whole thing in a "| tar" pipe. > There are versions of the tar program available even > for "Windows". Inside a tar archive, a file "12345." > can be stored, while the archive itself can have a > name that does not violate FAT rules. > > Of course, this introduces another problem: Can you > make sure that the system you'll be using will be > able to use tar? It's not for the compression (which > you _could_ use), just for the "encapsulation". > But if you just need something to _store_ the file, > not to _process_ it, it could be an option for you. > I don't know about the specific scenarios you're > preparing for, but as you talked about IMAP data > in maildir format, I can imagine that you just could > transfer a tar file from the "Windows" system to the > actual IMAP server (for data restore), extract it > _there_ - which will surely be some kind of UNIX > system (FreeBSD, any BSD, Linux), and every UNIX > system has a tar implementation. > > Just a thought. > > Summary: You cannot use FAT for backups when it will > not allow the filenames to stay the same. > I am using the word archives in its ordinary sense, a collection of records. I am using the word record in its ordinary sense as well, something that is preserved, not as a entry in a data file. I am not referring to any specific file format or application software. The purpose of the USB key archives is to allow me to search for specific files, generally UFT8 encoded, using the native file system tools on whatever host I have access to. I do this on a regular basis. Encapsulating the data in a file format that depends upon access to a specific application defeats the purpose. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 21:54:37 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B41114A95A3 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 21:54:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1EF446D1EC for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 21:54:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N1g3U-1hH1EB2OVM-011ybn; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 22:54:27 +0100 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 22:54:27 +0100 From: Polytropon To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: "James B. 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Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > > > On Tue, January 29, 2019 15:49, James B. Byrne wrote: > > FreeBSD-11.2p8 > > > > Following a massive pkg update this morning, followed by a > > freebsd-update install and restart, I now discover that I cannot print > > from the mate desktop. When I print from any application on the > > desktop, libreoffice, pluma, firefox, the printer dialogue shows up, > > the print job is generated, but nothing prints on the printer. Nor > > can I find any printer management applet in the toolbar. > > > > > Now I get this from libreoffice: > > Could not start printer. > Please check your printer configuration This suggests there's something wrong with CUPS. Maybe due to an update, some of its "moving parts" has moved a bit too much, and you need to restore the CUPS landscape. :-) I have been seeing this a few times in the past. The first place to look at is the CUPS log file, especially /var/log/cups/error_log for the errors. I'm certain you'll find some case of "not found" somewhere in there. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 22:00:33 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60FEB14A993E for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 22:00:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B5AE6D403 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 22:00:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MXGSU-1gfE0S34EY-00YfWw; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 23:00:18 +0100 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 23:00:18 +0100 From: Polytropon To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RSYNC changes file name Message-Id: <20190129230018.a028f4fd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <9aaa35912b122e88e667e7516ba6a865.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <20190129204033.7312742f.freebsd@edvax.de> <10a14c28507feee71572a2573d319fc3.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <20190129214351.2f32c04c.freebsd@edvax.de> <18bd6c1326e011634c5b548e5cfd94aa.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <20190129222126.d0449659.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:85VvnKvcrmk7josmY8ouebcQkt4juazsmezmHNySnCDMz8+k3n9 UweF0EO3AzVZSQeltyW3q2sBypWic3WSY/DjYkJWZivIbez7R7Zin/gcOZiCXjFqgZ8ZNgl yEXzKruHQ723XFN8T3Zy8Eyfic+5GQYgN4FBieTcXgguOYnQW6uKo7pnmXwh+JKBWrmNYw8 hjVRW/Fk/UH5OQtEX/3UA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:uOg2/AIXwgU=:FZsHXgZv8LX71gq0sxyrsj hnMXSBwwTCtvb/rv2c6xzALseErEqGG/HvzbNsY29Cyon1cZpUjvvf6UZfSm/w8sFEf78EUe8 tFPKnsmfnhThyo3Nb8QKqm3MV5aljzXW9uJFJ7Iw0mfhkpWp0H2d4TNR2Lsv6sP1dA0+dwV/5 l8tV71bQwv7scINLJWxXkEqc10pE6YkKwODwCPgoNeeSVp+cUEne1upHIPhxgU/5rvW+bZBwT PgAA4m7A7uuAxEdEszE96eiaPV/2AOOkLZg7eEZnRS2vS0Et4N1KZz3cB+hJpUNHfwCVSsgzk tYos1Va1Q7QDMZMLC6zNZL8rtcXgOfdfpNTfll7+w/dO2Lt1bDHFi2vQx6TRtHjSWUFATmc8k 6aI0jyV+LTeBbfMKjR4pBaCKxZl7JPKSAKx4al74x00LdlhG5pAE76Nfnz1sQjhZG4Ank+Zjt PwioVlN9JclqXglT2WMNZszHavvasxubI8EjYwb0ynRQ8VoD12EXzlhFeUQVstjnh9QScBQl5 sTH0/VluVrmpn06kVcQieJDi5JyBiIYfJ7ds+7dUnSA+lRuIQyOQ1Y5/lcOUHoag73kquyfqQ vfobjbU+c6yd8eqyhL+IA26QBpNhN28jWiQTPGdeHWtCsbSD6IGP6PgXJ/YRSgn3IqoP6z68t eFppplrXNbcG8HkZE5JtpYQACjh2wJzLgDJl2wazASuYr+j8GD3xJ3i0/fpbBTzKbXBRkgWaj DU2XYTclhTjUi3pP2d3zl+yTCl9C7IXseqZFU6vt1Kzt1wn9moFqxa8UytY= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B5AE6D403 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [6.05 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx01.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[69.226.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; IP_SCORE(0.69)[ip: (2.01), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-0.70), asn: 8560(2.13), country: DE(-0.01)]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.98)[0.979,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.997,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 22:00:33 -0000 On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:35:29 -0500, James B. Byrne wrote: > On Tue, January 29, 2019 16:21, Polytropon wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:13:46 -0500, James B. Byrne wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Tue, January 29, 2019 15:43, Polytropon wrote: > >> > On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:28:50 -0500, James B. Byrne wrote: > >> >> Gpart reports the file system is type 12 which I believe is some > >> >> variant of FAT. MS Windows does not permit file names ending in > >> >> either a dot or a space. The filesystem silently truncates the > >> >> offending character. > >> > > >> > Ha, just as I thought. :-) > >> > > >> > If you're going to use the target medium for FreeBSD > >> > only (i. e., you won't access it from "Windows"), why > >> > not initialize it with UFS? There are even tunefs > >> > options that can help optimizing access to specific > >> > media, like USB sticks or SD cards. In fact, there > >> > even isn't a need for a partition table, if you for > >> > example do "newfs /dev/da0" (where da0 corresponds > >> > to the medium in question), and then you can use it > >> > as "mount -t ufs /dev/da0 /mnt" without problems. > >> > Filenames will then correctly be stored. > >> > > >> > Suggestion: For backing up FreeBSD stuff, keep using > >> > FreeBSD stuff. :-) > >> > > >> > >> The resulting archives must be readable on a windows OS. It is a > >> portable backup which may have to be used in situations where any > >> form > >> of *nix will not be available to me. > > > > You say, "the archives", but it seems you're copying > > bare files. A convenient to deal with this problem is > > to "encapsulate" the whole thing in a "| tar" pipe. > > There are versions of the tar program available even > > for "Windows". Inside a tar archive, a file "12345." > > can be stored, while the archive itself can have a > > name that does not violate FAT rules. > > > > Of course, this introduces another problem: Can you > > make sure that the system you'll be using will be > > able to use tar? It's not for the compression (which > > you _could_ use), just for the "encapsulation". > > But if you just need something to _store_ the file, > > not to _process_ it, it could be an option for you. > > I don't know about the specific scenarios you're > > preparing for, but as you talked about IMAP data > > in maildir format, I can imagine that you just could > > transfer a tar file from the "Windows" system to the > > actual IMAP server (for data restore), extract it > > _there_ - which will surely be some kind of UNIX > > system (FreeBSD, any BSD, Linux), and every UNIX > > system has a tar implementation. > > > > Just a thought. > > > > Summary: You cannot use FAT for backups when it will > > not allow the filenames to stay the same. > > > > I am using the word archives in its ordinary sense, a collection of > records. I am using the word record in its ordinary sense as well, > something that is preserved, not as a entry in a data file. I am not > referring to any specific file format or application software. > > The purpose of the USB key archives is to allow me to search for > specific files, generally UFT8 encoded, using the native file system > tools on whatever host I have access to. I do this on a regular > basis. Encapsulating the data in a file format that depends upon > access to a specific application defeats the purpose. Okay, this makes perfectly sense. So you do _not_ use those files to restore IMAP message content on the server you've rsync'ed them from, you're just unhappy with the fact that "12345." became "12345" on FAT due to naming restrictions. In this case, you can convince yourself that you didn't do anything wrong, it's just FAT that doesn't allow a "." at the end of the filename. Maybe it is possible to live with this fact, or try to change the source file naming convention from "xxxxx." to "xxxxx" (where x = 0...9), if that is possible. The "encapsulation" would probably add more inconvenience in this specific case, because you cannot guarantee that it will be available on every system you will use to search your message archive. Just consider FAT as one of the lowest (!) common denominators in filesystem space. It has lots of restrictions you need to accept when you intend to use it. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Tue, January 29, 2019 16:21, Polytropon wrote: >> On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:13:46 -0500, James B. Byrne wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, January 29, 2019 15:43, Polytropon wrote: >>>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:28:50 -0500, James B. Byrne wrote: >>>>> Gpart reports the file system is type 12 which I believe is some >>>>> variant of FAT. MS Windows does not permit file names ending in >>>>> either a dot or a space. The filesystem silently truncates the >>>>> offending character. >>>> Ha, just as I thought. :-) >>>> >>>> If you're going to use the target medium for FreeBSD >>>> only (i. e., you won't access it from "Windows"), why >>>> not initialize it with UFS? There are even tunefs >>>> options that can help optimizing access to specific >>>> media, like USB sticks or SD cards. In fact, there >>>> even isn't a need for a partition table, if you for >>>> example do "newfs /dev/da0" (where da0 corresponds >>>> to the medium in question), and then you can use it >>>> as "mount -t ufs /dev/da0 /mnt" without problems. >>>> Filenames will then correctly be stored. >>>> >>>> Suggestion: For backing up FreeBSD stuff, keep using >>>> FreeBSD stuff. :-) >>>> >>> The resulting archives must be readable on a windows OS. It is a >>> portable backup which may have to be used in situations where any >>> form >>> of *nix will not be available to me. >> You say, "the archives", but it seems you're copying >> bare files. A convenient to deal with this problem is >> to "encapsulate" the whole thing in a "| tar" pipe. >> There are versions of the tar program available even >> for "Windows". Inside a tar archive, a file "12345." >> can be stored, while the archive itself can have a >> name that does not violate FAT rules. >> >> Of course, this introduces another problem: Can you >> make sure that the system you'll be using will be >> able to use tar? It's not for the compression (which >> you _could_ use), just for the "encapsulation". >> But if you just need something to _store_ the file, >> not to _process_ it, it could be an option for you. >> I don't know about the specific scenarios you're >> preparing for, but as you talked about IMAP data >> in maildir format, I can imagine that you just could >> transfer a tar file from the "Windows" system to the >> actual IMAP server (for data restore), extract it >> _there_ - which will surely be some kind of UNIX >> system (FreeBSD, any BSD, Linux), and every UNIX >> system has a tar implementation. >> >> Just a thought. >> >> Summary: You cannot use FAT for backups when it will >> not allow the filenames to stay the same. >> > I am using the word archives in its ordinary sense, a collection of > records. I am using the word record in its ordinary sense as well, > something that is preserved, not as a entry in a data file. I am not > referring to any specific file format or application software. > > The purpose of the USB key archives is to allow me to search for > specific files, generally UFT8 encoded, using the native file system > tools on whatever host I have access to. I do this on a regular > basis. Encapsulating the data in a file format that depends upon > access to a specific application defeats the purpose. > > That's perfectly fine, as long as you're aware of the limitations when moving between file systems that have different filename rules.  Also be aware that ms-dos type filesystems silently-internally case-fold names, so that "FOO" and "Foo" are the same file.  This can lead to data loss by unintentionally overwriting a file. rsync can't warn of you the name munging since rsync asks the filesystem to write file "foo." and the filesystem says, "ok, sure"...  so no error to report. If this is a regular thing, you would be well served to insure all the files you're saving conform to ms-dos name rules. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 22:17:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D401214AA189 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 22:17:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx32.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93BD96DEFA for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 22:17:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (unknown [127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA32677E; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 17:17:27 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.32.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DAkHms1pBwlX; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 17:17:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D14F1676D; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 17:17:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 17:17:25 -0500 Message-ID: <39252c5bcccb39bea6147117b029192c.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: <20190129230018.a028f4fd.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <9aaa35912b122e88e667e7516ba6a865.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <20190129204033.7312742f.freebsd@edvax.de> <10a14c28507feee71572a2573d319fc3.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <20190129214351.2f32c04c.freebsd@edvax.de> <18bd6c1326e011634c5b548e5cfd94aa.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <20190129222126.d0449659.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190129230018.a028f4fd.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 17:17:25 -0500 Subject: Re: RSYNC changes file name From: "James B. 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I do this on a regular >> basis. Encapsulating the data in a file format that depends upon >> access to a specific application defeats the purpose. > > Okay, this makes perfectly sense. > > So you do _not_ use those files to restore IMAP message content > on the server you've rsync'ed them from, you're just unhappy > with the fact that "12345." became "12345" on FAT due to > naming restrictions. In this case, you can convince yourself > that you didn't do anything wrong, it's just FAT that doesn't > allow a "." at the end of the filename. Maybe it is possible > to live with this fact, or try to change the source file naming > convention from "xxxxx." to "xxxxx" (where x = 0...9), if that > is possible. > I am considering modifying the transfer script so as to remove the trailing dot before hitting the FAT fs. That would prevent rsync from deleting all of the files on the target that do not have trailing dots before replacing them with files with the exact names as those it just deleted. Regards, -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. 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I tried to update ports on FreeBSD-12.0-Release (amd64) with portmaster -ad: The following actions will be taken if you choose to proceed: Upgrade py27-setuptools_scm-1.17.0 to py27-setuptools_scm-3.1.0 Upgrade sane-backends-1.0.27_4 to sane-backends-1.0.27_5 ===>>> Proceed? y/n [y] and I got: Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in File "setup.py", line 116, in setuptools.setup(**arguments) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools/__init__.py", line 143, in setup return distutils.core.setup(**attrs) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/distutils/core.py", line 151, in setup dist.run_commands() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/distutils/dist.py", line 953, in run_commands self.run_command(cmd) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/distutils/dist.py", line 972, in run_command cmd_obj.run() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools/command/install.py", line 61, in run return orig.install.run(self) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/distutils/command/install.py", line 575, in run self.run_command(cmd_name) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/distutils/cmd.py", line 326, in run_command self.distribution.run_command(command) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/distutils/dist.py", line 972, in run_command cmd_obj.run() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools/command/install_egg_info.py", line 34, in run self.run_command('egg_info') File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/distutils/cmd.py", line 326, in run_command self.distribution.run_command(command) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/distutils/dist.py", line 972, in run_command cmd_obj.run() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools/command/egg_info.py", line 296, in run self.find_sources() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools/command/egg_info.py", line 303, in find_sources mm.run() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools/command/egg_info.py", line 534, in run self.add_defaults() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools/command/egg_info.py", line 573, in add_defaults rcfiles = list(walk_revctrl()) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools/command/sdist.py", line 20, in walk_revctrl for item in ep.load()(dirname): File "/usr/ports/devel/py-setuptools_scm/work-py27/setuptools_scm-3.1.0/src/setuptools_scm/integration.py", line 28, in find_files command = ep.load() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 2346, in load return self.resolve() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 2356, in resolve raise ImportError(str(exc)) ImportError: 'module' object has no attribute 'FILES_COMMAND' *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/ports/devel/py-setuptools_scm ===>>> make stage failed for devel/py-setuptools_scm@py27 ===>>> Aborting update ===>>> Update for devel/py-setuptools_scm@py27 failed ===>>> Aborting update ===>>> You can restart from the point of failure with this command line: portmaster devel/py-setuptools_scm@py27 graphics/sane-backends Thank you. -- by ajtiM ---------------------- FreeBSD 12.0-Release From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 29 23:33:28 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E4DE14AC342 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 23:33:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C65709DA for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 23:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from lowell-desk.be-well.ilk.org (router.lan [172.30.250.2]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C11033C22 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 18:27:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 6370F150C48A; Tue, 29 Jan 2019 18:27:04 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RSYNC changes file name References: <9aaa35912b122e88e667e7516ba6a865.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <20190129204033.7312742f.freebsd@edvax.de> <10a14c28507feee71572a2573d319fc3.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <20190129214351.2f32c04c.freebsd@edvax.de> <18bd6c1326e011634c5b548e5cfd94aa.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <20190129222126.d0449659.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190129230018.a028f4fd.freebsd@edvax.de> <39252c5bcccb39bea6147117b029192c.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 18:27:03 -0500 In-Reply-To: <39252c5bcccb39bea6147117b029192c.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> (James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions's message of "Tue, 29 Jan 2019 17:17:25 -0500") Message-ID: <44pnsf3v08.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 76C65709DA X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.44 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.33)[-0.333,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ilk.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.80)[0.803,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: be-well.ilk.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.11)[0.109,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:23.30.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.13)[ip: (0.10), ipnet: 23.30.0.0/15(0.08), asn: 7922(-0.75), country: US(-0.08)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 23:33:28 -0000 "James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions" writes: > On Tue, January 29, 2019 17:00, Polytropon wrote: > >>> >>> The purpose of the USB key archives is to allow me to search for >>> specific files, generally UFT8 encoded, using the native file system >>> tools on whatever host I have access to. I do this on a regular >>> basis. Encapsulating the data in a file format that depends upon >>> access to a specific application defeats the purpose. >> >> Okay, this makes perfectly sense. >> >> So you do _not_ use those files to restore IMAP message content >> on the server you've rsync'ed them from, you're just unhappy >> with the fact that "12345." became "12345" on FAT due to >> naming restrictions. In this case, you can convince yourself >> that you didn't do anything wrong, it's just FAT that doesn't >> allow a "." at the end of the filename. Maybe it is possible >> to live with this fact, or try to change the source file naming >> convention from "xxxxx." to "xxxxx" (where x = 0...9), if that >> is possible. >> > > I am considering modifying the transfer script so as to remove the > trailing dot before hitting the FAT fs. That would prevent rsync from > deleting all of the files on the target that do not have trailing dots > before replacing them with files with the exact names as those it just > deleted. That makes sense. My instinct would be to create archives instead, and the archiving program (say, tar or zip) would be comparing filenames without the filesystem format getting in the way, so update operations (-u for both programs, if my recall holds) would work without unnecessary updates. Still preserves the accessible-from-any-platform criterion, but doesn't require any custom functionality. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 30 15:41:28 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A1C14C3D74 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 15:41:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx32.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB7F17007F for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 15:41:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (unknown [127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298486CB6; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 10:41:21 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.32.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jZ9_mRPm3Vvp; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 10:41:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 05A096CAB; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 10:41:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 10:41:19 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 10:41:19 -0500 Subject: Re: RSYNC changes file name From: "James B. Byrne" To: "Lowell Gilbert" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.23 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: CB7F17007F X-Spamd-Bar: -------- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.48 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca]; RBL_COMPOSITE_RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED_DWL_DNSWL_LOW(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:216.185.71.0/26]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx32.harte-lyne.ca]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[harte-lyne.ca:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[harte-lyne.ca,quarantine]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[32.71.185.216.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.4.2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12021, ipnet:216.185.64.0/20, country:CA]; IP_SCORE(-3.78)[ip: (-9.91), ipnet: 216.185.64.0/20(-4.95), asn: 12021(-3.96), country: CA(-0.09)]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[harte-lyne.ca:s=dkim_hll]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.990,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(0.00)[harte-lyne.ca.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.4.1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 15:41:28 -0000 On Tue, January 29, 2019 18:27, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > That makes sense. My instinct would be to create archives instead, and > the archiving program (say, tar or zip) would be comparing filenames > without the filesystem format getting in the way, so update operations > (-u for both programs, if my recall holds) would work without > unnecessary updates. Still preserves the accessible-from-any-platform > criterion, but doesn't require any custom functionality. > > However, to access the archived data requires the use of a specific application which may not be available. It is true that recent versions of MS Windows and OSX have ZIP capability built-in so perhaps that is the way to go. I will have to consider that option. Regards, -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 30 16:02:23 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338F114C4B96 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 16:02:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx32.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 513C77118E for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 16:02:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (unknown [127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2EC6D1F for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 11:02:20 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.32.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ih-9h5gbtC3R for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 11:02:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A9F2B6D14 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 11:02:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 11:02:13 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 11:02:13 -0500 Subject: [SOLVED]: Cannot print from mate desktop From: "James B. 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Byrne wrote: > > > On Tue, January 29, 2019 15:49, James B. Byrne wrote: >> FreeBSD-11.2p8 >> >> Following a massive pkg update this morning, followed by >> a freebsd-update install and restart, I now discover that >> I cannot print from the mate desktop. When I print from >> any application on the desktop, libreoffice, pluma, firefox, >> the printer dialogue shows up, the print job is generated, >> but nothing prints on the printer. Nor can I find any >> printer management applet in the toolbar. >> The problem of failing to print was solved by (re-?)installing the cups-filters package. Which is somewhat troublesome since it seems that package, or its functional equivalent, was installed before the upgrade and was removed thereby. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 30 17:54:32 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1AE14C7DE9 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 17:54:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfunk6@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo102.cox.net (eastrmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C322276534 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 17:54:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfunk6@cox.net) Received: from eastrmimpo209.cox.net ([68.230.241.224]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.28 201-2260-151-171-20160122) with ESMTP id <20190130175424.JICM23674.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo209.cox.net> for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 12:54:24 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=MeHYRK3f c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=yfSlEqn/ZG9vrg+7UEEfGQ==:117 a=yfSlEqn/ZG9vrg+7UEEfGQ==:17 a=XpR3aH6njjYA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=QJiyWdlwuGK1FVk0HCcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=-u2R6UP_6oaUnCVgD0MA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 X-CM-Score: 0.00 From: Derek Funk Subject: BUG 211713 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 11:54:25 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C322276534 X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dfunk6@cox.net designates 68.230.241.214 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dfunk6@cox.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.82 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:68.230.241.0/24]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[cox.net]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.990,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cxr.mx.a.cloudfilter.net,cxr.mx.a.cloudfilter.net,cxr.mx.a.cloudfilter.net,cxr.mx.a.cloudfilter.net]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.997,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[214.241.230.68.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; SUBJ_ALL_CAPS(0.75)[10]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.83)[0.829,0]; IP_SCORE(0.47)[ipnet: 68.230.240.0/22(0.98), asn: 22773(1.44), country: US(-0.07)]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[cox.net]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22773, ipnet:68.230.240.0/22, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cox.net]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 17:54:32 -0000 Just wondering if there is action being done on this bug 211713 .  I have a system with one of those drives I'd like to use FreeBSD on. Derek From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 30 18:29:36 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79DE614C8EF3 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 18:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D990777E5 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 18:29:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.226.69]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mn2Jj-1hY6rr1hSx-00k9sU; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 19:29:24 +0100 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 19:29:22 +0100 From: Polytropon To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: "James B. 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Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > > > On Tue, January 29, 2019 16:18, James B. Byrne wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, January 29, 2019 15:49, James B. Byrne wrote: > >> FreeBSD-11.2p8 > >> > >> Following a massive pkg update this morning, followed by > >> a freebsd-update install and restart, I now discover that > >> I cannot print from the mate desktop. When I print from > >> any application on the desktop, libreoffice, pluma, firefox, > >> the printer dialogue shows up, the print job is generated, > >> but nothing prints on the printer. Nor can I find any > >> printer management applet in the toolbar. > >> > > The problem of failing to print was solved by (re-?)installing the > cups-filters package. Which is somewhat troublesome since it seems > that package, or its functional equivalent, was installed before the > upgrade and was removed thereby. Exactly my guessing. :-) I've seen this in the past - a re-install of CUPS and its related packages solved the printing problem. The primary indication of what's wrong can be found in the error log. Sometimes, functionalities will "shift", i. e., packages get combined, integrated, or removed, and a re-install will solve the "open ends" problem. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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The boot pool and any other non-root pools remain exported despite being imported when the system was shutdown. This is solved by adding the following to /boot/loader.conf: zpool_cache_load="YES" zpool_cache_name="/boot/zfs/zpool.cache" zpool_cache_type="/boot/zfs/zpool.cache" Why is this not the default? Encrypted ZFS-only systems are broken without it. The only two places those conf lines are mentioned at all: - A few lines in src/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts/zfsboot - https://wiki.freebsd.org/MasonLoringBliss/UEFIandZFSandGELIbyHAND I found that one FreeBSD Wiki article among an ocean of ZFS+GELI-root how-tos and forum posts that don't mention this issue at all. Some claim this "just works", others use a UFS /boot because they date back to 10-R or 9-R, when the UEFI loader didn't speak ZFS. 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Two other > wireless devices on my network show my AP, so it's confirmed > broadcasting (non-FreeBSD devices). > > Running 11.2-RELEASE. > > Any suggestions on what to try next? Nobody has any idea how to troubleshoot this? 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MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[outlook.com]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[outlook.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.3.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 09:30:04 -0000 FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE-p2 After running portsnap to update my ports, I usually run the following command: # /usr/sbin/pkg version -vL=3D This will give me a list of ports that need updating. In this case, it produced this: libgpg-error-1.34 < needs updating (index has 1.35) py36-certbot-apache-0.30.2_2 > succeeds index (index has 0.30.2_1) Now, I understand the first port listed, but not the second. I know that "py36-certbot-apache-0.30.2_2" was recently updated. I know, because I filed a bug PR against it. The updated port is downloaded and I have it installed. My question is why the index is apparently not updated. This is causing "poudriere" to not update this port for me. I had to manually update the port to get it to run correctly. I tried downloading a new "index", but that failed to alleviate the problem. So, where do I go from here? --=20 Carmel From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 31 11:11:37 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABCE0135747A for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 11:11:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asv@inhio.net) Received: from cz-prg-mx-01.inhio.net (mail.inhio.net [178.238.36.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A7287158 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 11:11:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asv@inhio.net) Received: from titanio (titanio.inhio.net [10.0.0.21]) by cz-prg-mx-01.inhio.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E16D822B24; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 12:11:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: Subject: Re: PF issue since 11.2-RELEASE From: ASV To: Kristof Provost Cc: questions list Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 12:11:15 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20190129193609.GB57976@vega.codepro.be> References: <989e79372513e9769c6857b531f14df8ce0b6f3a.camel@inhio.net> <51F0845A-2BB3-4BC9-977D-BB0E6C305ED3@FreeBSD.org> <20190129193609.GB57976@vega.codepro.be> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-VrYQxHdmG0Kt6vk0O2gL" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 92A7287158 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of asv@inhio.net designates 178.238.36.226 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=asv@inhio.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.12 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[inhio.net]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.inhio.net]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.32)[-0.323,0]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24971, ipnet:178.238.32.0/20, country:CZ]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.01)[country: CZ(0.03)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 11:11:37 -0000 --=-VrYQxHdmG0Kt6vk0O2gL Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good afternoon, one good news and one bad news. Good news is that it was that bloody zero missing which was "freaking out" PF during the reload. How could I missed that? Perhaps erroneously removed during the upgrade somehow or it was there but not causing problems?! I'll never know. But it's fixed so thank you very much for the good catch! The bad news is that PF is still not enforcing the rules within the anchors. So fail2ban keeps populating the tables where the previously mentioned rules are in place (reposted below) but these IPs keeps bombing me with connection attempts passing the firewall with no problems at all. Killing the states, reloading, restarting (PF and fail2ban) doesn't fix that. # pfctl -a f2b/asterisk-udp -t f2b-asterisk-udp -s rules block drop quick proto udp from to any port =3D sip block drop quick proto udp from to any port =3D sip-tls # pfctl -a f2b/asterisk-tcp -t f2b-asterisk-tcp -s rules block drop quick proto tcp from to any port =3D sip block drop quick proto tcp from to any port =3D sip-tls Is it a known bug? On Tue, 2019-01-29 at 20:36 +0100, Kristof Provost wrote: > On 2019-01-29 20:31:53 (+0100), ASV wrote: > > OK, I understand. Here it follows my pf.conf: > >=20 > > ext_if=3D"lagg0" > > tun0_if=3D"tun0" > > B01=3D"172.16.3.2" > > K01=3D"172.16.3.3" > > W01=3D"172.16.3.4" > > W03=3D"172.16.3.5" > > K02=3D"172.16.3.6" > > W02=3D"172.16.3.7" > >=20 > > set skip on lo >=20 > Try 'set skip on lo0' >=20 > There have been issues with groups in 'set skip' handling. They > *should* > be fixed in CURRENT, but 11.2 is affected. >=20 > Regards, > Kristof >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=-VrYQxHdmG0Kt6vk0O2gL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCgAdFiEE5dE8BwbhhcQw2TsezaQsUNd+zIkFAlxS19MACgkQzaQsUNd+ zInsBgf8CVB2bL2n081HRHMk3wc/hbHxqMm9/Z0i3FP8IgVp1hjXG+JaoSI2IF8D A6j2TDpGBMqJEtu/fx7rkPiN2uAyyZMg1HIQPZbmCTZUwyagfMcIRp6BWM2VGc/a OxIgalW+SW+U9xnDVXjaeH/d9tCzvhxK31OKBt2X31cMoxPjphJZttNcj+Um2QW2 F8YDcneYJpaVcHI1LBFY+at+ahtRRR/kjVkI4MQpEwES1wKrqj2ugiW/pu5iFOsy kKabj6Z5JfHVWo5ndLV/iz4TZtGDH/or9TfP3L5FAsfG552OTeOv8zBdSy4mctck /+TB9BXtqS10mrzEioKPZnIUffPenQ== =j7se -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-VrYQxHdmG0Kt6vk0O2gL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 31 11:22:43 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FC9135830A for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 11:22:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=tl8j=qh=vega.codepro.be=kp@codepro.be) Received: from venus.codepro.be (venus.codepro.be [5.9.86.228]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.codepro.be", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 645FC87FD0 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 11:22:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=tl8j=qh=vega.codepro.be=kp@codepro.be) Received: from vega.codepro.be (unknown [172.16.1.3]) by venus.codepro.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4F4284CE; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 12:22:37 +0100 (CET) Received: by vega.codepro.be (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 65CE54EDA7; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 12:22:37 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 12:22:37 +0100 From: Kristof Provost To: ASV Cc: questions list Subject: Re: PF issue since 11.2-RELEASE Message-ID: <20190131112237.GC57976@vega.codepro.be> References: <989e79372513e9769c6857b531f14df8ce0b6f3a.camel@inhio.net> <51F0845A-2BB3-4BC9-977D-BB0E6C305ED3@FreeBSD.org> <20190129193609.GB57976@vega.codepro.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Checked-By-NSA: Probably User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 645FC87FD0 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=fail reason="" header.from=sigsegv.be (policy=none); spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of srs0=tl8j=qh=vega.codepro.be=kp@codepro.be designates 5.9.86.228 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=srs0=tl8j=qh=vega.codepro.be=kp@codepro.be X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.25 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:5.9.86.228]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[228.86.9.5.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.9.2]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx2.codepro.be]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.33)[-0.333,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.81)[ipnet: 5.9.0.0/16(-1.77), asn: 24940(-2.26), country: DE(-0.01)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[kristof@sigsegv.be,srs0=tl8j=qh=vega.codepro.be=kp@codepro.be]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:5.9.0.0/16, country:DE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[kristof@sigsegv.be,srs0=tl8j=qh=vega.codepro.be=kp@codepro.be]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[sigsegv.be : SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM, none] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 11:22:44 -0000 On 2019-01-31 12:11:15 (+0100), ASV wrote: > Good afternoon, > one good news and one bad news. > > Good news is that it was that bloody zero missing which was "freaking > out" PF during the reload. How could I missed that? Perhaps erroneously > removed during the upgrade somehow or it was there but not causing > problems?! I'll never know. But it's fixed so thank you very much for > the good catch! > > The bad news is that PF is still not enforcing the rules within the > anchors. So fail2ban keeps populating the tables where the previously > mentioned rules are in place (reposted below) but these IPs keeps > bombing me with connection attempts passing the firewall with no > problems at all. Killing the states, reloading, restarting (PF and > fail2ban) doesn't fix that. > > # pfctl -a f2b/asterisk-udp -t f2b-asterisk-udp -s rules > block drop quick proto udp from to any port = sip > block drop quick proto udp from to any port = sip-tls > > # pfctl -a f2b/asterisk-tcp -t f2b-asterisk-tcp -s rules > block drop quick proto tcp from to any port = sip > block drop quick proto tcp from to any port = sip-tls > > Is it a known bug? > > What does pflog show? Regards, Kristof From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 31 20:44:15 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B06114B73D3 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 20:44:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asv@inhio.net) Received: from cz-prg-mx-01.inhio.net (mail.inhio.net [178.238.36.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0997117E for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 20:44:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asv@inhio.net) Received: from titanio (titanio.inhio.net [10.0.0.21]) by cz-prg-mx-01.inhio.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3FD4F22F17; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 21:44:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <96a0871e6a30b042378fc5526a70a8ccfa803ef6.camel@inhio.net> Subject: Re: PF issue since 11.2-RELEASE From: ASV To: Kristof Provost Cc: questions list Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 21:44:06 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20190131112237.GC57976@vega.codepro.be> References: <989e79372513e9769c6857b531f14df8ce0b6f3a.camel@inhio.net> <51F0845A-2BB3-4BC9-977D-BB0E6C305ED3@FreeBSD.org> <20190129193609.GB57976@vega.codepro.be> <20190131112237.GC57976@vega.codepro.be> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-+3SFJ77KJeoql2Q8kE7g" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: CC0997117E X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of asv@inhio.net designates 178.238.36.226 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=asv@inhio.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.45 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[inhio.net]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.35)[0.348,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mail.inhio.net]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24971, ipnet:178.238.32.0/20, country:CZ]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.01)[country: CZ(0.03)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 20:44:15 -0000 --=-+3SFJ77KJeoql2Q8kE7g Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2019-01-31 at 12:22 +0100, Kristof Provost wrote: > What does pflog show? 00:00:00.000000 rule 25/0(match): pass in on lagg0: 212.83.XXX.XXX.5441 > 1= 00.100.10.XXX.5060: SIP: REGISTER sip:100.100.10.[!sip] 00:00:48.499578 rule 25/0(match): pass in on lagg0: 212.83.XXX.XXX.5457 > 1= 00.100.10.XXX.5060: SIP: REGISTER sip:100.100.10.[!sip] 00:00:48.182323 rule 25/0(match): pass in on lagg0: 212.83.XXX.XXX.5449 > 1= 00.100.10.XXX.5060: SIP: REGISTER sip:100.100.10.[!sip] 00:00:47.866652 rule 25/0(match): pass in on lagg0: 212.83.XXX.XXX.5477 > 1= 00.100.10.XXX.5060: SIP: REGISTER sip:100.100.10.[!sip] 00:00:47.801770 rule 25/0(match): pass in on lagg0: 212.83.XXX.XXX.5484 > 1= 00.100.10.XXX.5060: SIP: REGISTER sip:100.100.10.[!sip] 00:00:48.091841 rule 25/0(match): pass in on lagg0: 212.83.XXX.XXX.5594 > 1= 00.100.10.XXX.5060: SIP: REGISTER sip:100.100.10.[!sip] By the way, among my tests I've discovered that connectivity issues re- occur as soon as I mix network ranges and IP addresses within the same table (not even pf restart seems to make it work properly again). I used to have a script to populate a separate table with the spammers and from time to time I was adding network ranges when multiple (many) IP addresses within the same range were bombing me so I know it worked pretty well .... even when IP addresses were overlapping already specified ranges. Ex. 120.30.0.0/24 213.156.32.2 ......... ......... --=-+3SFJ77KJeoql2Q8kE7g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCgAdFiEE5dE8BwbhhcQw2TsezaQsUNd+zIkFAlxTXhYACgkQzaQsUNd+ zImwZQgApr10fMHs/xVO2wQV+fbxOG33bgYEpOlnLIEhkbRcuBAqFcog0c/JPlot YV/RV61aByuloAls4KjpZjW9oJ9wwG8diAL4Hk6uBhFShehiPTXp6BIHap61lgTw 0kewOoLBrhkq/+5C/JcFtilayitpb76qbeSATAiUJhzMvqFdUA+J1BaSfvO/qDxM 8N0dcQzZsqdbYQwZfDx8xuXuge+Sx8fHyxttAE7hyMxkFtKqhBRqVUEzEbJkGQ0Y +4vcxCf9EwajQ9t8lJYk8Xat/G3MM8zUJgH9CBmFYGFPiZ322pu3ezEE8/Pl+8FV f/QAOh5xUv8NAm8H33ZAjG7PyRJHwQ== =6kZ5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-+3SFJ77KJeoql2Q8kE7g-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 31 21:00:39 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B6514B7854 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 21:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=ntmy=qh=sigsegv.be=kristof@codepro.be) Received: from venus.codepro.be (venus.codepro.be [5.9.86.228]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.codepro.be", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC319716ED for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 21:00:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=ntmy=qh=sigsegv.be=kristof@codepro.be) Received: from [10.0.2.193] (ptr-8rh08jyi21kx8ectjyk.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be [IPv6:2a02:1811:240e:402:1cae:49e9:e334:4e4c]) (Authenticated sender: kp) by venus.codepro.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E76012C198; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 22:00:29 +0100 (CET) From: "Kristof Provost" To: ASV Cc: "questions list" Subject: Re: PF issue since 11.2-RELEASE Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 22:00:23 +0100 X-Mailer: MailMate (2.0BETAr6135) Message-ID: <2677833F-B2C4-4CCD-B82F-4F3F84B7FFF8@sigsegv.be> In-Reply-To: References: <989e79372513e9769c6857b531f14df8ce0b6f3a.camel@inhio.net> <51F0845A-2BB3-4BC9-977D-BB0E6C305ED3@FreeBSD.org> <20190129193609.GB57976@vega.codepro.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_MailMate_6B9ACF53-941F-40A4-98AC-39630D6B96D5_="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: CC319716ED X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=fail reason="" header.from=sigsegv.be (policy=none); spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of srs0=ntmy=qh=sigsegv.be=kristof@codepro.be designates 5.9.86.228 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=srs0=ntmy=qh=sigsegv.be=kristof@codepro.be X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.93 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[sigsegv.be : SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM,none]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:5.9.86.228]; IP_SCORE(-0.82)[ipnet: 5.9.0.0/16(-1.84), asn: 24940(-2.27), country: DE(-0.01)]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,multipart/alternative,text/plain]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[228.86.9.5.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.9.2]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx2.codepro.be,mx1.codepro.be]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.89)[-0.894,0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[kristof@sigsegv.be,srs0=ntmy=qh=sigsegv.be=kristof@codepro.be]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:5.9.0.0/16, country:DE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[kristof@sigsegv.be,srs0=ntmy=qh=sigsegv.be=kristof@codepro.be]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 21:00:39 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 3156 and 4880). --=_MailMate_6B9ACF53-941F-40A4-98AC-39630D6B96D5_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 31 Jan 2019, at 12:11, ASV wrote: > Good afternoon, > one good news and one bad news. > > Good news is that it was that bloody zero missing which was "freaking > out" PF during the reload. How could I missed that? Perhaps erroneously= > removed during the upgrade somehow or it was there but not causing > problems?! I'll never know. But it's fixed so thank you very much for > the good catch! > > The bad news is that PF is still not enforcing the rules within the > anchors. So fail2ban keeps populating the tables where the previously > mentioned rules are in place (reposted below) but these IPs keeps > bombing me with connection attempts passing the firewall with no > problems at all. Killing the states, reloading, restarting (PF and > fail2ban) doesn't fix that. > > # pfctl -a f2b/asterisk-udp -t f2b-asterisk-udp -s rules > block drop quick proto udp from to any port =3D sip > block drop quick proto udp from to any port =3D sip-= tls > > # pfctl -a f2b/asterisk-tcp -t f2b-asterisk-tcp -s rules > block drop quick proto tcp from to any port =3D sip > block drop quick proto tcp from to any port =3D sip-= tls > I don=E2=80=99t use anchors myself, but don=E2=80=99t you need to call th= em from your main ruleset? 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FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[bc979@lafn.org,srs0=bsve=qi=mail.sermon-archive.info=doug@sermon-archive.info]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 06:41:34 -0000 I have installed apache24, php72 and a host of other somewhat related = php packages. I can't seem to get apache to run a php script that = includes json_encode. test# pkg info | grep php mod_php72-7.2.14 PHP Scripting Language php72-7.2.14 PHP Scripting Language php72-curl-7.2.14 The curl shared extension for php php72-filter-7.2.14 The filter shared extension for php php72-gd-7.2.14 The gd shared extension for php php72-hash-7.2.14 The hash shared extension for php php72-json-7.2.14 The json shared extension for php php72-mbstring-7.2.14 The mbstring shared extension for php php72-mysqli-7.2.14 The mysqli shared extension for php php72-openssl-7.2.14 The openssl shared extension for php php72-pear-1.10.6 PEAR framework for PHP php72-pear-Services_JSON-1.0.3 PHP implementation of json_encode/decode php72-pecl-mcrypt-1.0.1 PHP extension for mcrypt, removed in PHP = 7.2 php72-pecl-xdebug-2.6.1 Xdebug extension for PHP php72-session-7.2.14 The session shared extension for php php72-xml-7.2.14 The xml shared extension for php php72-zip-7.2.14 The zip shared extension for php php72-zlib-7.2.14 The zlib shared extension for php test# pkg info | grep apache apache24-2.4.38 Version 2.4.x of Apache web server test# pkg info | grep mod_ mod_php72-7.2.14 PHP Scripting Language Server has been rebooted several times. test# freebsd-version -ku 12.0-RELEASE 12.0-RELEASE In /usr/local/www/apache24/data is the file: test# more /usr/local/www/apache24/data/test.php name =3D "John"; $myObj->age =3D 30; $myObj->city =3D "New York"; $myJSON =3D json_encode($myObj); echo $myJSON; ?> Running it by hand works: test# php /usr/local/www/apache24/data/test.php Hello world{"name":"John","age":30,"city":"New York"}test#=20 Accessing it via a browser yields: Hello world and an error: test# tail -1 /var/log/httpd-error.log [Thu Jan 31 22:29:25.506018 2019] [php7:error] [pid 1586] [client = 10.0.1.251:53459] PHP Fatal error: Uncaught Error: Call to undefined = function json_encode() in /usr/local/www/apache24/data/test.php:9\nStack = trace:\n#0 {main}\n thrown in /usr/local/www/apache24/data/test.php on = line 9 The info.php file in that directory works properly when accessed via the = browser. Obviously I have got something setup wrong. I have not been = able to figure it out. ktrace never shows any attempt to access = anything I can see identifiable with json_encode. I would appreciate = any ideas on how to fix this. Thanks -- Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Feb 1 09:34:06 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9968F14C7182 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 09:34:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asv@inhio.net) Received: from cz-prg-mx-01.inhio.net (mail.inhio.net [178.238.36.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2A784330 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 09:34:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asv@inhio.net) Received: from titanio (titanio.inhio.net [10.0.0.21]) by cz-prg-mx-01.inhio.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 88DE723350; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 10:33:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <8918ed58705259aebcf0b5254fd28d161b4d31b5.camel@inhio.net> Subject: Re: PF issue since 11.2-RELEASE From: ASV To: Kristof Provost Cc: questions list Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 10:33:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: <2677833F-B2C4-4CCD-B82F-4F3F84B7FFF8@sigsegv.be> References: <989e79372513e9769c6857b531f14df8ce0b6f3a.camel@inhio.net> <51F0845A-2BB3-4BC9-977D-BB0E6C305ED3@FreeBSD.org> <20190129193609.GB57976@vega.codepro.be> <2677833F-B2C4-4CCD-B82F-4F3F84B7FFF8@sigsegv.be> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-vJ0Lt6xFtHRPLpw+rhNf" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4E2A784330 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of asv@inhio.net designates 178.238.36.226 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=asv@inhio.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.59 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[inhio.net]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mail.inhio.net]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.01)[-0.014,0]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24971, ipnet:178.238.32.0/20, country:CZ]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.77)[asn: 24971(-3.87), country: CZ(0.03)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 09:34:06 -0000 --=-vJ0Lt6xFtHRPLpw+rhNf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2019-01-31 at 22:00 +0100, Kristof Provost wrote: > On 31 Jan 2019, at 12:11, ASV wrote: > > Good afternoon, > > one good news and one bad news. > >=20 > > Good news is that it was that bloody zero missing which was > > "freaking > > out" PF during the reload. How could I missed that? Perhaps > > erroneously > > removed during the upgrade somehow or it was there but not causing > > problems?! I'll never know. But it's fixed so thank you very much > > for > > the good catch! > >=20 > > The bad news is that PF is still not enforcing the rules within the > > anchors. So fail2ban keeps populating the tables where the > > previously > > mentioned rules are in place (reposted below) but these IPs keeps > > bombing me with connection attempts passing the firewall with no > > problems at all. Killing the states, reloading, restarting (PF and > > fail2ban) doesn't fix that. > >=20 > > # pfctl -a f2b/asterisk-udp -t f2b-asterisk-udp -s rules > > block drop quick proto udp from to any port =3D > > sip > > block drop quick proto udp from to any port =3D > > sip-tls > >=20 > > # pfctl -a f2b/asterisk-tcp -t f2b-asterisk-tcp -s rules > > block drop quick proto tcp from to any port =3D > > sip > > block drop quick proto tcp from to any port =3D > > sip-tls >=20 > I don=E2=80=99t use anchors myself, but don=E2=80=99t you need to call th= em from your > main ruleset? Anchors are called and the blocking rule is set within: anchor f2b { anchor asterisk { block in quick log to any } } so the resulting tables f2b-asterisk-udp and f2b-asterisk-tcp (created by fail2ban) belonging to the anchor f2b get populated with IP addresses by fail2ban daemon and then rules are "supposed to" be enforced. Sorry I've realised that previously I've posted "sip" instead of "asterisk". I'm heavily testing this stuff through different but identical files, just some names replaced, which is probably the reason why you thought I wasn't "calling" them. fail2ban is supposed to do the rest which is: - creating the tables: which sometimes works sometimes doesn't but if you set the tables in the same ruleset at start you'll get the following: pfctl: warning: namespace collisions with 2 global tables. even when these are removed from the running config and manually reloaded!!! - enforcing the "ban action": these are pre-set on=20 /usr/local/etc/fail2ban/action.d/pf.conf and the default one is: actionban =3D -t - -T add and it works, the table(s) get populated but rules are not enforced. 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I can't seem to get apache to run a php script that includes > json_encode. > > test# pkg info | grep php > mod_php72-7.2.14 PHP Scripting Language > php72-7.2.14 PHP Scripting Language > php72-curl-7.2.14 The curl shared extension for php > php72-filter-7.2.14 The filter shared extension for php > php72-gd-7.2.14 The gd shared extension for php > php72-hash-7.2.14 The hash shared extension for php > php72-json-7.2.14 The json shared extension for php > php72-mbstring-7.2.14 The mbstring shared extension for php > php72-mysqli-7.2.14 The mysqli shared extension for php > php72-openssl-7.2.14 The openssl shared extension for php > php72-pear-1.10.6 PEAR framework for PHP > php72-pear-Services_JSON-1.0.3 PHP implementation of json_encode/decode > php72-pecl-mcrypt-1.0.1 PHP extension for mcrypt, removed in PHP 7.2 > php72-pecl-xdebug-2.6.1 Xdebug extension for PHP > php72-session-7.2.14 The session shared extension for php > php72-xml-7.2.14 The xml shared extension for php > php72-zip-7.2.14 The zip shared extension for php > php72-zlib-7.2.14 The zlib shared extension for php > > test# pkg info | grep apache > apache24-2.4.38 Version 2.4.x of Apache web server > > test# pkg info | grep mod_ > mod_php72-7.2.14 PHP Scripting Language > > Server has been rebooted several times. > > test# freebsd-version -ku > 12.0-RELEASE > 12.0-RELEASE > > In /usr/local/www/apache24/data is the file: > test# more /usr/local/www/apache24/data/test.php > print "Hello world"; > > $myObj = (object) array(); > $myObj->name = "John"; > $myObj->age = 30; > $myObj->city = "New York"; > > $myJSON = json_encode($myObj); > > echo $myJSON; > ?> > > > Running it by hand works: > test# php /usr/local/www/apache24/data/test.php > Hello world{"name":"John","age":30,"city":"New York"}test# > > Accessing it via a browser yields: > Hello world > > and an error: > test# tail -1 /var/log/httpd-error.log > [Thu Jan 31 22:29:25.506018 2019] [php7:error] [pid 1586] [client > 10.0.1.251:53459] PHP Fatal error: Uncaught Error: Call to undefined > function json_encode() in /usr/local/www/apache24/data/test.php:9\nStack > trace:\n#0 {main}\n thrown in /usr/local/www/apache24/data/test.php on > line 9 > > The info.php file in that directory works properly when accessed via the > browser. Obviously I have got something setup wrong. I have not been able > to figure it out. ktrace never shows any attempt to access anything I can > see identifiable with json_encode. I would appreciate any ideas on how to > fix this. Thanks > > > -- Doug > > I use php and my biggest complaint is the way it handles errors. I think what is happening is that your Object Definition has a syntax error but php is complaining about the json_encode. I believe (from the php.net docs) that it should be $myObj = new stdClass(); > $myObj->name = "John"; > $myObj->age = 30; > $myObj->city = "New York"; > I highly recommend the php.net documentation. It shows different ways to do this and it looks like you merged two different styles that are incompatible. As a suggestion, in the future, assume it is a php problem and try Stack Exchange first. If everyone there says, "everything looks good, could be your distro / OS", then post to the FreeBSD List and explain what steps you have already taken. It will help keep responses much more friendly. -- Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Feb 1 15:17:54 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FE914B68BF for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:17:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@boosten.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E6E6C7C7 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:17:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@boosten.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 8793414B68B9; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:17:49 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7536114B68B8 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:17:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.164]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B2FE6C7C6 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:17:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.34.117] (helo=smtp9.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gpaZY-0001nx-CK; Fri, 01 Feb 2019 16:17:40 +0100 Received: from 5419f71f.cm-5-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([84.25.247.31] helo=ra.boosten.org) by smtp9.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gpaZY-0001RB-Ac; Fri, 01 Feb 2019 16:17:40 +0100 Received: from anubis.boosten.org (anubis.boosten.org [192.168.13.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ra.boosten.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AB3FC3432F71; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 16:17:39 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: Problems with JSON and PHP From: freebsd@boosten.org In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 16:17:38 +0100 Cc: Doug Hardie , questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Mark Moellering X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-SourceIP: 84.25.247.31 X-Ziggo-spambar: / X-Ziggo-spamscore: 0.0 X-Ziggo-spamreport: CMAE Analysis: v=2.3 cv=WaVylHpX c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=JWBJsaPp29SgP5DpYRBqZw==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=CFTnQlWoA9kA:10 a=67BIL_jfAAAA:8 a=FpYyrf4h4hoR8MdwYdEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 0B2FE6C7C6 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.98 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.982,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 15:17:54 -0000 >> test# more /usr/local/www/apache24/data/test.php >> > print "Hello world"; >>=20 >> $myObj =3D (object) array(); >> $myObj->name =3D "John"; >> $myObj->age =3D 30; >> $myObj->city =3D "New York"; >>=20 >> $myJSON =3D json_encode($myObj); >>=20 >> echo $myJSON; >> ?> >>=20 >>=20 >> I use php and my biggest complaint is the way it handles errors. I = think > what is happening is that your Object Definition has a syntax error = but php > is complaining about the json_encode. > I believe (from the php.net docs) that it should be >=20 > $myObj =3D new stdClass(); >> $myObj->name =3D "John"; >> $myObj->age =3D 30; >> $myObj->city =3D "New York"; >>=20 >=20 Don=E2=80=99t believe that=E2=80=99s actually the issue, since the = supplied test.php works like charm for me, either in my browser (through = apache) or via command line. If it were the declaration, the command line would fail as well. Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Feb 1 15:25:03 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F244614B6DB2 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:25:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markmoellering@psyberation.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F5B6CD89 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:25:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markmoellering@psyberation.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1AEA414B6DAF; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:25:02 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA34A14B6DAD for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:25:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markmoellering@psyberation.com) Received: from mail-qt1-x82d.google.com (mail-qt1-x82d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::82d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C3886CD87 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:25:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markmoellering@psyberation.com) Received: by mail-qt1-x82d.google.com with SMTP id l11so7941775qtp.0 for ; Fri, 01 Feb 2019 07:25:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=psyberation-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=saSHqkVd6g+XGRHctEoEeqiAGsbwf06nIHHaFh4RsMA=; b=JYDH55lGh9zcWByWVg3DsA4+Z+Mb7Sbzse7gTDOwewKcSX9TBkqO2+BJ0u6lJKcTw2 36kiJVvppT0nswdk1UoPgIaqYWEfX8sDuWkyk3OoGGVCIwcgwt8JwJgyzEQvhaHK/6we E0O5FwsjcxnuEfTHW1sBCpEAcMWtlqaHqdFncm5uDHElYgv8Z6ytFuKbh06xP7OwbQD3 +hFj/6E9qqo6JgagOcpb1Jwr9Aw8l5FbJPan6+0I2WMQ/q8p/OJcO63cuZKmLmzwRKEp 0kAo82SGphNQV5CnEEJA2PUDHuoXJY+yGCvaHrZphGsEJAd5KPuTSml3FdqzwIIsn1rt zRXg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=saSHqkVd6g+XGRHctEoEeqiAGsbwf06nIHHaFh4RsMA=; b=GaO3ZvNKfLlwID25tNmVOiANYZnQV4uPGe8Z6CMCWAv42B9E12xsFe0x9OKSNdIhUW ekyaLakWZLVYhlDLZJeGNw66ozoPPjrkhP2Vr+0H50HXx0rmQ99hALiXWCZnaijmfd8T GdPXOSWZ2t4fA7mnIjlT3kNnHOa+5LyxzTAky5edqNW2JDf0Ie6xmGK18VwyRt9Vlo2W 3hudN8MtMTdYEnQYYy1CxBfL2B4ZeRrWOwWFtHa0fn2yMTDJ0/drzRzADrvoHHoMo9mS eI2C9gHuOqBcgUGFMQJTZyNra/wvTIEYVJOms5nHk/2Xggsii1pCI5jUPMldYSUG4mUe EdKA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukd4BWKmACE0lY/LIg8M1AYAysGTR9HewtbYvKOn8QJ6iYiDlSWR ssESutdpVmjTFAyzoe1S4+5wQR8gdfYgM7eKWRG/A6HP X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN7aSFZjww210eGcDVgJFe8SUKBL+AEdUIajICcTFE+S/vMHrgQSEM2tKrqmiuNZEqICebIxzGa0GpKgUrCyHaw= X-Received: by 2002:aed:23c5:: with SMTP id k5mr39693549qtc.39.1549034700625; Fri, 01 Feb 2019 07:25:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Mark Moellering Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 10:24:49 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Problems with JSON and PHP To: questions@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6C3886CD87 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.95 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.947,0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 15:25:03 -0000 On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 10:17 AM wrote: > >> test# more /usr/local/www/apache24/data/test.php > >> >> print "Hello world"; > >> > >> $myObj =3D (object) array(); > >> $myObj->name =3D "John"; > >> $myObj->age =3D 30; > >> $myObj->city =3D "New York"; > >> > >> $myJSON =3D json_encode($myObj); > >> > >> echo $myJSON; > >> ?> > >> > >> > >> I use php and my biggest complaint is the way it handles errors. I > think > > what is happening is that your Object Definition has a syntax error but > php > > is complaining about the json_encode. > > I believe (from the php.net docs) that it should be > > > > $myObj =3D new stdClass(); > >> $myObj->name =3D "John"; > >> $myObj->age =3D 30; > >> $myObj->city =3D "New York"; > >> > > > > Don=E2=80=99t believe that=E2=80=99s actually the issue, since the suppli= ed test.php works > like charm for me, either in my browser (through apache) or via command > line. > > If it were the declaration, the command line would fail as well. > > Peter > There you go, injecting logic. The only other thing I can think of is check the FPM php.ini file. What happens if you try a simple json_encode of a string? Try the simplest call first, then go on from there. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Feb 1 15:31:59 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3618214B712F for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:31:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@boosten.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910646D4B5 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:31:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@boosten.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 5007314B712E; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3DD14B712D for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:31:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.164]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD5096D4B4 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:31:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.34.119] (helo=smtp11.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gpanM-0003vl-Fh; Fri, 01 Feb 2019 16:31:56 +0100 Received: from 5419f71f.cm-5-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([84.25.247.31] helo=ra.boosten.org) by smtp11.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gpanM-00078M-EG; Fri, 01 Feb 2019 16:31:56 +0100 Received: from anubis.boosten.org (anubis.boosten.org [192.168.13.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ra.boosten.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 03B2E3432F71; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 16:31:55 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: Problems with JSON and PHP From: freebsd@boosten.org In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 16:31:54 +0100 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <843A5A40-1344-42C0-97D8-D316D89CCCB1@boosten.org> References: To: Mark Moellering X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-SourceIP: 84.25.247.31 X-Ziggo-spambar: / X-Ziggo-spamscore: 0.0 X-Ziggo-spamreport: CMAE Analysis: v=2.3 cv=CpfBjUwD c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=JWBJsaPp29SgP5DpYRBqZw==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=CFTnQlWoA9kA:10 a=hk4XFtf-kw-B4YZjUV8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: CD5096D4B4 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.991,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 15:31:59 -0000 >>=20 >=20 > There you go, injecting logic. The only other thing I can think of is > check the FPM php.ini file. What happens if you try a simple = json_encode > of a string? Try the simplest call first, then go on from there. > _______________________________________________ The only thing I can think of is that his web server uses a different = php.ini then the command line. The web server cannot find the json module. 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The only other thing I can think of is > > check the FPM php.ini file. What happens if you try a simple json_encode > > of a string? Try the simplest call first, then go on from there. > > _______________________________________________ > > The only thing I can think of is that his web server uses a different > php.ini then the command line. > The web server cannot find the json module. > > Peter > > Sorry, should have been more clear. Yes, the command line and web server uses different php.ini files. usually, the command line file is in a folder marked cli and the web server file is in one marked fpm -- Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Feb 1 15:40:37 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F81C14B7927 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:40:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@boosten.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBE76DDDE for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:40:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@boosten.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id C049014B7924; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE03A14B7922 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:40:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.164]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3EA7D6DDD6 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:40:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.42.133] (helo=smtp9.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gpava-00074m-Aa; Fri, 01 Feb 2019 16:40:26 +0100 Received: from 5419f71f.cm-5-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([84.25.247.31] helo=ra.boosten.org) by smtp9.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gpava-00020c-90; Fri, 01 Feb 2019 16:40:26 +0100 Received: from anubis.boosten.org (anubis.boosten.org [192.168.13.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ra.boosten.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B6E143432FD7; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 16:40:24 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: Problems with JSON and PHP From: freebsd@boosten.org In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 16:40:23 +0100 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <690EDED5-A1ED-41A2-BEDE-6F3EEF752838@boosten.org> References: <843A5A40-1344-42C0-97D8-D316D89CCCB1@boosten.org> To: Mark Moellering X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-SourceIP: 84.25.247.31 X-Ziggo-spambar: / X-Ziggo-spamscore: 0.0 X-Ziggo-spamreport: CMAE Analysis: v=2.3 cv=ZIapZkzb c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=JWBJsaPp29SgP5DpYRBqZw==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=CFTnQlWoA9kA:10 a=SGKrpmC4GepR05ViB1QA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 3EA7D6DDD6 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.992,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 15:40:37 -0000 >>> There you go, injecting logic. The only other thing I can think of = is >>> check the FPM php.ini file. What happens if you try a simple = json_encode >>> of a string? Try the simplest call first, then go on from there. >>> _______________________________________________ >>=20 >> The only thing I can think of is that his web server uses a different >> php.ini then the command line. >> The web server cannot find the json module. >>=20 >> Peter >>=20 >>=20 > Sorry, should have been more clear. Yes, the command line and web = server > uses different php.ini files. usually, the command line file is in a > folder marked cli and the web server file is in one marked fpm >=20 My mistake, didn=E2=80=99t read that good, apologies.=20 Digging through the php man page I found that the cli actually looks for = a php-cli.ini, if found it ignores the php.ini. OP could easily check this with =E2=80=98php =E2=80=94ini=E2=80=99 on = the cmd line. Peter= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Feb 1 22:26:17 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31EC14C3151 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 22:26:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=bsve=qi=mail.sermon-archive.info=doug@sermon-archive.info) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2590685E89 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 22:26:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=bsve=qi=mail.sermon-archive.info=doug@sermon-archive.info) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id D7E0214C3150; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 22:26:16 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B033114C314F for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 22:26:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=bsve=qi=mail.sermon-archive.info=doug@sermon-archive.info) Received: from mail.sermon-archive.info (sermon-archive.info [71.177.216.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239A585E88 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 22:26:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=bsve=qi=mail.sermon-archive.info=doug@sermon-archive.info) Received: from [10.0.1.251] (mini [10.0.1.251]) by mail.sermon-archive.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 43rsBs3sxCz2fjSb; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 14:26:13 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Subject: Re: Problems with JSON and PHP From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 14:26:13 -0800 Cc: Mark Moellering Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0792A559-EDF6-49F2-889D-4D99762FD6EC@mail.sermon-archive.info> References: To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.100.2 at mail X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 239A585E88 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.94 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.939,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 22:26:17 -0000 > On 1 February 2019, at 07:24, Mark Moellering = wrote: >=20 > On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 10:17 AM wrote: >=20 >>>> test# more /usr/local/www/apache24/data/test.php >>>> >>> print "Hello world"; >>>>=20 >>>> $myObj =3D (object) array(); >>>> $myObj->name =3D "John"; >>>> $myObj->age =3D 30; >>>> $myObj->city =3D "New York"; >>>>=20 >>>> $myJSON =3D json_encode($myObj); >>>>=20 >>>> echo $myJSON; >>>> ?> >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> I use php and my biggest complaint is the way it handles errors. I >> think >>> what is happening is that your Object Definition has a syntax error = but >> php >>> is complaining about the json_encode. >>> I believe (from the php.net docs) that it should be >>>=20 >>> $myObj =3D new stdClass(); >>>> $myObj->name =3D "John"; >>>> $myObj->age =3D 30; >>>> $myObj->city =3D "New York"; >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >> Don=E2=80=99t believe that=E2=80=99s actually the issue, since the = supplied test.php works >> like charm for me, either in my browser (through apache) or via = command >> line. >>=20 >> If it were the declaration, the command line would fail as well. The initial issue is with a very large package. The example I provided = was the simplest I could come up with that showed the issue. I ran php = -init and the output (partial) was: Server API =3D> Command Line Interface Virtual Directory Support =3D> disabled Configuration File (php.ini) Path =3D> /usr/local/etc Loaded Configuration File =3D> /usr/local/etc/php.ini Scan this dir for additional .ini files =3D> /usr/local/etc/php Additional .ini files parsed =3D> /usr/local/etc/php/ext-18-session.ini, /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-curl.ini, /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-filter.ini, /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-gd.ini, /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-hash.ini, /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-json.ini, /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-mbstring.ini, /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-mcrypt.ini, /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-mysqli.ini, /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-openssl.ini, /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-xdebug.ini, /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-xml.ini, /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-zip.ini, /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-zlib.ini running via the web server the info.php file gives (reformatted to look = like the above): Configuration File (php.ini)=20 Path /usr/local/etc Loaded Configuration File /usr/local/etc/php.ini Scan this dir for additional .ini files /usr/local/etc/php Additional .ini files parsed=09 /usr/local/etc/php/ext-18-session.ini,=20 /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-curl.ini,=20 /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-filter.ini,=20 /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-gd.ini,=20 /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-hash.ini,=20 /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-json.ini,=20 /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-mbstring.ini,=20 /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-mcrypt.ini,=20 /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-mysqli.ini,=20 /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-openssl.ini,=20 /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-xdebug.ini,=20 /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-xml.ini,=20 /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-zip.ini,=20 /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-zlib.ini They both use the same ini file for json. I don't see any differences = between them. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Feb 1 23:00:39 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63C714C3DC9 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 23:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from che@bein.link) Received: from mail.bein.link (bein.link [37.252.124.82]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C12286F73 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 23:00:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from che@bein.link) Received: from mail.bein.link (unknown [172.16.32.33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bein.link (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5DDCA238382 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 23:00:30 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 23:00:30 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: RainLoop/1.12.1 From: "Maxim Filimonov" Message-ID: Subject: ipsec+gre: no luck accessing a jail To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bein.link; s=mail; t=1549062030; bh=+fwd73Q3S2Cywa1SKrA5/dr1qwk=; h=MIME-Version:Date:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:Subject:To; b=tAv5mWZZmVGT8lTfaqe6N5whZekR9hw70Xaqyqu55rtJFFTCWprkBElQyP2u9eG2ttrfpHNo8vp08wbkYGYlTV3ExE7gCevqqTv+j4javTOnQ9w7iqi8R6WnY5Ol6OC+4VajjNzDOEmH1XVgexXG5ryTUvLm5+x6QRH3Evq/7Co= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9C12286F73 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bein.link header.s=mail header.b=tAv5mWZZ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.70 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bein.link:s=mail]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bein.link]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bein.link:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.bein.link]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.61)[-0.611,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-0.78)[asn: 196752(-3.93), country: NL(0.02)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:196752, ipnet:37.252.120.0/21, country:NL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 23:00:39 -0000 Hello,=0A=0AI'm having a slight yet annoying trouble with the said techno= logies.=0AI have a jail:=0A=0A% sudo jls=0A JID IP Address Hostna= me Path=0A 1 172.16.XX.XX %hostname% = /usr/home/jail/foo=0A=0A=0AAll HTTP(s) traffic to the FreeBSD bo= x gets forwarded to that jail:=0A=0A% sudo ipfw list=0A=0A00023 fwd= 172.16.XX.XX ip from any to me 80=0A00024 fwd 172.16.XX.XX ip from any t= o me 443=0A=0A=0AAnd I have set up a GRE= tunnel to my network here at home and protected it with IPSEC.=0ANow, wh= en I try to access the web interfaces available from the jail via the hos= t's hostname, I get "Connection refused" error. I know it means no one is= listening at the GRE interface, but nevertheless.=0AThe point is, when I= disable IPSEC, I can access them via the hostname (something.my.hostname= which points to the box, not the jail). When IPSEC is enabled, no luck h= ere. In both cases, the jail replies to 'curl http://172.16.XX.XX'.=0A=0A= The question is, what can be done to fix that? I'm seeing this as an IPSE= C misconfiguration. Here's my setkey.conf:=0A=0A% cat /usr/local/etc/raco= on/setkey.conf =0Aflush;=0Aspdflush;=0A=0Aspdadd /32 /3= 2 gre -P out ipsec esp/transport/-/require;=0Aspdadd //32 gre -P in ipsec esp/transport/-/re= quire;=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A-----=0Awbr, Maxim V Filimonov From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Feb 2 02:32:19 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59A814CEF15 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 02:32:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wintermute24x7@icloud.com) Received: from mr85p00im-hyfv06021301.me.com (mr85p00im-hyfv06021301.me.com [17.58.23.188]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09FE08F934 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 02:32:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wintermute24x7@icloud.com) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (rrcs-173-196-228-218.west.biz.rr.com [173.196.228.218]) by mr85p00im-hyfv06021301.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7A55340109 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 02:32:09 +0000 (UTC) From: "M. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Subject: FBSD On Mac Desktop Pro Message-Id: <3CB2D726-3DEC-4EF5-8C8B-50B190FFE078@icloud.com> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 18:32:05 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2019-02-02_01:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=38 suspectscore=1 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=38 clxscore=1015 mlxscore=38 mlxlogscore=20 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1807170000 definitions=main-1902020017 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 09FE08F934 X-Spamd-Bar: -------- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.63 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RBL_COMPOSITE_RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED_DWL_DNSWL_LOW(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[icloud.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:17.58.0.0/16]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.mail.icloud.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[icloud.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[icloud.com,quarantine]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[188.23.58.17.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.953,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[icloud.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:714, ipnet:17.58.16.0/20, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[icloud.com:s=04042017]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(0.00)[icloud.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; IP_SCORE(-1.47)[ip: (-4.05), ipnet: 17.58.16.0/20(-1.62), asn: 714(-1.59), country: US(-0.07)]; WHITELIST_SPF_DKIM(-3.00)[icloud.com:d:+,icloud.com:s:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 02:32:19 -0000 Hello I have Mac Pro desktop and want to install FBSD on it. I believe = it is new enough for the AMD 64 install. What is the best way to get = FBSD on my system. I have had difficulty getting the image file on a usb = stick. Any solid tutorials someone know about?=20 As far as a cd rom install what size of cd rom should I use? Is their a current prepackaged FBSD That would work?= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Feb 2 01:31:45 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE4014C8CD5 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 01:31:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=jeug=qj=mail.sermon-archive.info=doug@sermon-archive.info) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B80B8DB12 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 01:31:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=jeug=qj=mail.sermon-archive.info=doug@sermon-archive.info) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1BA6A14C8CC2; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 01:31:44 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E1514C8CC0 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 01:31:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=jeug=qj=mail.sermon-archive.info=doug@sermon-archive.info) Received: from mail.sermon-archive.info (sermon-archive.info [71.177.216.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389EE8DB06 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 01:31:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=jeug=qj=mail.sermon-archive.info=doug@sermon-archive.info) Received: from [10.0.1.251] (mini [10.0.1.251]) by mail.sermon-archive.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 43rxJr5FVCz2fjPs; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 17:31:40 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Subject: Re: Problems with JSON and PHP From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <0792A559-EDF6-49F2-889D-4D99762FD6EC@mail.sermon-archive.info> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 17:31:40 -0800 Cc: Mark Moellering Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5B1444AE-5241-4422-B6BA-5CE138921701@mail.sermon-archive.info> References: <0792A559-EDF6-49F2-889D-4D99762FD6EC@mail.sermon-archive.info> To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.100.2 at mail X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 389EE8DB06 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.98 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.977,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 01:31:45 -0000 > On 1 February 2019, at 14:26, Doug Hardie wrote: >=20 >> On 1 February 2019, at 07:24, Mark Moellering = wrote: >>=20 >> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 10:17 AM wrote: >>=20 >>>>> test# more /usr/local/www/apache24/data/test.php >>>>> >>>> print "Hello world"; >>>>>=20 >>>>> $myObj =3D (object) array(); >>>>> $myObj->name =3D "John"; >>>>> $myObj->age =3D 30; >>>>> $myObj->city =3D "New York"; >>>>>=20 >>>>> $myJSON =3D json_encode($myObj); >>>>>=20 >>>>> echo $myJSON; >>>>> ?> >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> I use php and my biggest complaint is the way it handles errors. = I >>> think >>>> what is happening is that your Object Definition has a syntax error = but >>> php >>>> is complaining about the json_encode. >>>> I believe (from the php.net docs) that it should be >>>>=20 >>>> $myObj =3D new stdClass(); >>>>> $myObj->name =3D "John"; >>>>> $myObj->age =3D 30; >>>>> $myObj->city =3D "New York"; >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Don=E2=80=99t believe that=E2=80=99s actually the issue, since the = supplied test.php works >>> like charm for me, either in my browser (through apache) or via = command >>> line. >>>=20 >>> If it were the declaration, the command line would fail as well. >=20 > The initial issue is with a very large package. The example I = provided was the simplest I could come up with that showed the issue. I = ran php -init and the output (partial) was: >=20 > Server API =3D> Command Line Interface > Virtual Directory Support =3D> disabled > Configuration File (php.ini) Path =3D> /usr/local/etc > Loaded Configuration File =3D> /usr/local/etc/php.ini > Scan this dir for additional .ini files =3D> /usr/local/etc/php > Additional .ini files parsed =3D> = /usr/local/etc/php/ext-18-session.ini, > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-curl.ini, > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-filter.ini, > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-gd.ini, > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-hash.ini, > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-json.ini, > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-mbstring.ini, > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-mcrypt.ini, > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-mysqli.ini, > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-openssl.ini, > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-xdebug.ini, > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-xml.ini, > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-zip.ini, > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-zlib.ini >=20 > running via the web server the info.php file gives (reformatted to = look like the above): >=20 > Configuration File (php.ini)=20 > Path /usr/local/etc > Loaded Configuration File /usr/local/etc/php.ini > Scan this dir for additional .ini files /usr/local/etc/php > Additional .ini files parsed=09 > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-18-session.ini,=20 > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-curl.ini,=20 > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-filter.ini,=20 > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-gd.ini,=20 > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-hash.ini,=20 > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-json.ini,=20 > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-mbstring.ini,=20 > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-mcrypt.ini,=20 > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-mysqli.ini,=20 > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-openssl.ini,=20 > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-xdebug.ini,=20 > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-xml.ini,=20 > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-zip.ini,=20 > /usr/local/etc/php/ext-20-zlib.ini >=20 > They both use the same ini file for json. I don't see any differences = between them. I found the problem. The following lines were missing in http.conf: SetHandler application/x-httpd-php SetHandler application/x-httpd-php-source Somehow during the installation process that file got replaced by a = generic copy and those lines vanished. The way I found that was by = setting up yet another test server and it worked. Then compared the = various config files.= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Feb 2 08:12:49 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D105E14AFBF3 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 08:12:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (relay7-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D76F4748B6 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 08:12:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from webmail.gandi.net (webmail7.sd4.0x35.net [10.200.201.7]) (Authenticated sender: mayuresh@kathe.in) by relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0DC6020004 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 08:12:39 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 13:42:39 +0530 From: Mayuresh Kathe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Interesting read : .SUNW_cap arcana ... Reply-To: mayuresh@kathe.in Mail-Reply-To: mayuresh@kathe.in Message-ID: <60477564b354e758bc8f2b181f2a870e@kathe.in> X-Sender: mayuresh@kathe.in User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.2 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D76F4748B6 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.65 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[mayuresh@kathe.in]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[spool.mail.gandi.net,fb.mail.gandi.net,spool.mail.gandi.net,fb.mail.gandi.net,spool.mail.gandi.net,fb.mail.gandi.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[200.183.70.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29169, ipnet:217.70.176.0/20, country:FR]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.30)[-0.296,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.44)[0.435,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.34)[ip: (-0.14), ipnet: 217.70.176.0/20(-0.81), asn: 29169(-0.72), country: FR(-0.02)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.06)[0.059,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kathe.in]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 08:12:50 -0000 If only the linker loader set could be like Solaris' https://lethargy.org/~jesus/writes/sunw_cap-arcana/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Feb 2 04:35:00 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F096F14D344B for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 04:34:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27E746DD47 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 04:34:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 10324 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2019 04:34:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=2852.5c551df0.k1902; bh=9rmcuQmFCzjJWnem0luXOkcmfUZ3Ujwj/1hfwzbYXqU=; b=Z08ULRMIyvUJjo3UJy42nlLA6E0GQefsIMoq8vE7R3rdcoyk1BrTFVZibCgmVWpU+ZMN9vcaxCKUapNBaEh1uwiz6Qj9UJv987y2/w7rA5ftPj1Jo4hVd/5xVm91G35nVMxKmswFwPwi1pU1RqNhIjbEdHoanBQTyfXfiUTgMNIJ+w68BEEQd7aGLb9nowhDMKU7mrZefUy44Cd5viIEgN0/EvJaIqD3A21+YM4cR2Vt/9zS3hD12R0ij0VE9Glg Received: from ary.qy ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTP via TCP6; 02 Feb 2019 04:34:56 -0000 Received: by ary.qy (Postfix, from userid 501) id 577AF200D9F3C1; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 23:34:55 -0500 (EST) Date: 1 Feb 2019 23:34:55 -0500 Message-Id: <20190202043456.577AF200D9F3C1@ary.qy> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: wintermute24x7@icloud.com Subject: Re: FBSD On Mac Desktop Pro In-Reply-To: <3CB2D726-3DEC-4EF5-8C8B-50B190FFE078@icloud.com> Organization: Taughannock Networks X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 04:35:00 -0000 In article <3CB2D726-3DEC-4EF5-8C8B-50B190FFE078@icloud.com>, M. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Feb 2 16:28:58 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA70C14C2A1A for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 16:28:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (static-71-163-255-121.washdc.fios.verizon.net [71.163.255.121]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail", Issuer "mail" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6F0A8DBF7 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 16:28:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from tripel.monochrome.org (tripel.monochrome.org [192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x12GGGV7067892; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 11:16:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 11:16:16 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: Mayuresh Kathe cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Checking CPU capabilities In-Reply-To: <2cd8b8b1ae06042a992a48faace1ca91@kathe.in> Message-ID: References: <2cd8b8b1ae06042a992a48faace1ca91@kathe.in> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A6F0A8DBF7 X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.03 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.94)[0.939,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[monochrome.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.80)[0.803,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.monochrome.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.54)[0.536,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:701, ipnet:71.163.0.0/16, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-0.13)[asn: 701(-0.59), country: US(-0.07)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 16:28:58 -0000 On Sat, 2 Feb 2019, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > Under Linux it is `cat /proc/cpuinfo` > Under Solaris it is `isainfo -v` > What is it under FreeBSD 12? Something like $ grep Features /var/run/dmesg.boot ...or am I missing something? -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Feb 2 16:39:28 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8E514C2EBA; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 16:39:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (relay8-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35E378E131; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 16:39:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from webmail.gandi.net (webmail8.sd4.0x35.net [10.200.201.8]) (Authenticated sender: mayuresh@kathe.in) by relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 28B5B1BF205; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 16:39:18 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 22:09:18 +0530 From: Mayuresh Kathe To: Chris Hill Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Checking CPU capabilities Reply-To: mayuresh@kathe.in Mail-Reply-To: mayuresh@kathe.in In-Reply-To: References: <2cd8b8b1ae06042a992a48faace1ca91@kathe.in> Message-ID: <13203a3c47f8f0f1c3c408fd3cc6a1c6@kathe.in> X-Sender: mayuresh@kathe.in User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.2 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 35E378E131 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.96 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[mayuresh@kathe.in]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.992,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kathe.in]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.66)[0.663,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: spool.mail.gandi.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[201.183.70.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.78)[-0.784,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29169, ipnet:217.70.176.0/20, country:FR]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.74)[ip: (-2.17), ipnet: 217.70.176.0/20(-0.80), asn: 29169(-0.71), country: FR(-0.02)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 16:39:28 -0000 On 2019-02-02 09:46 PM, Chris Hill wrote: > On Sat, 2 Feb 2019, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > >> Under Linux it is `cat /proc/cpuinfo` >> Under Solaris it is `isainfo -v` >> What is it under FreeBSD 12? > > Something like > $ grep Features /var/run/dmesg.boot > ...or am I missing something? I need to know if my processor supports AVX, AVX2, AVX-512, SIMD, etc. Would your approach give me that sort of information? 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RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[herbert@laubners.info]; MX_INVALID(0.50)[greylisted]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+ip4:103.27.72.12]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[laubners.info:+]; HAS_X_ANTIABUSE(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[12.72.27.103.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:132111, ipnet:103.27.72.0/24, country:MY]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; HAS_X_AS(0.00)[herbert@laubners.info]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_XBL(3.00)[83.228.165.46.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.4]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(0.00)[laubners.info:s=default]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.63)[0.627,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[laubners.info]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; IP_SCORE(0.02)[country: MY(0.09)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.998,0]; HAS_X_GMSV(0.00)[herbert@laubners.info]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 16:56:54 -0000 You could try $ grep Features /var/run/dmesg.boot  | grep --colour -e AVX Am 02.02.19 um 22:09 schrieb Mayuresh Kathe: > On 2019-02-02 09:46 PM, Chris Hill wrote: >> On Sat, 2 Feb 2019, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: >> >>> Under Linux it is `cat /proc/cpuinfo` >>> Under Solaris it is `isainfo -v` >>> What is it under FreeBSD 12? >> >> Something like >>   $ grep Features /var/run/dmesg.boot >> ...or am I missing something? > > I need to know if my processor supports AVX, AVX2, AVX-512, SIMD, etc. > Would your approach give me that sort of information? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Feb 2 17:15:07 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E1514C4092; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 17:15:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from relay11.mail.gandi.net (relay11.mail.gandi.net [217.70.178.231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90B328F691; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 17:15:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from webmail.gandi.net (webmail8.sd4.0x35.net [10.200.201.8]) (Authenticated sender: mayuresh@kathe.in) by relay11.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8813A100006; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 17:14:56 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 22:44:55 +0530 From: Mayuresh Kathe To: herbert@laubners.info Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Checking CPU capabilities Reply-To: mayuresh@kathe.in Mail-Reply-To: mayuresh@kathe.in In-Reply-To: <2713664c-255e-6981-8615-4ac8d734ea00@laubners.info> References: <2cd8b8b1ae06042a992a48faace1ca91@kathe.in> <13203a3c47f8f0f1c3c408fd3cc6a1c6@kathe.in> <2713664c-255e-6981-8615-4ac8d734ea00@laubners.info> Message-ID: X-Sender: mayuresh@kathe.in User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.2 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 90B328F691 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.81 / 15.00]; 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On 2019-02-02 10:26 PM, Herbert Laubner wrote: > You could try > > $ grep Features /var/run/dmesg.boot  | grep --colour -e AVX > > Am 02.02.19 um 22:09 schrieb Mayuresh Kathe: >> On 2019-02-02 09:46 PM, Chris Hill wrote: >>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2019, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: >>> >>>> Under Linux it is `cat /proc/cpuinfo` >>>> Under Solaris it is `isainfo -v` >>>> What is it under FreeBSD 12? >>> >>> Something like >>>   $ grep Features /var/run/dmesg.boot >>> ...or am I missing something? >> >> I need to know if my processor supports AVX, AVX2, AVX-512, SIMD, etc. >> Would your approach give me that sort of information? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Feb 2 17:36:21 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABF314C5300; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 17:36:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8963490A19; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 17:36:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.qeng-ho.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F1C10634; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 17:36:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: Checking CPU capabilities To: mayuresh@kathe.in, herbert@laubners.info Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2cd8b8b1ae06042a992a48faace1ca91@kathe.in> <13203a3c47f8f0f1c3c408fd3cc6a1c6@kathe.in> <2713664c-255e-6981-8615-4ac8d734ea00@laubners.info> From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: <102ce970-5f0a-dd71-23c1-25837fff938a@qeng-ho.org> Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 17:36:13 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 8963490A19 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@qeng-ho.org designates 217.155.128.241 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@qeng-ho.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.84 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.976,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:217.155.128.240/29]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[qeng-ho.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.84)[0.837,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx1.mythic-beasts.com,mx2.mythic-beasts.com]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13037, ipnet:217.155.0.0/16, country:GB]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.39)[asn: 13037(-1.87), country: GB(-0.09)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 17:36:21 -0000 On 02/02/2019 17:14, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > I am not on a FreeBSD system at the moment, and don't have access to one > either. > > On 2019-02-02 10:26 PM, Herbert Laubner wrote: >> You could try >> >> $ grep Features /var/run/dmesg.boot  | grep --colour -e AVX >> >> Am 02.02.19 um 22:09 schrieb Mayuresh Kathe: >>> On 2019-02-02 09:46 PM, Chris Hill wrote: >>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2019, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: >>>> >>>>> Under Linux it is `cat /proc/cpuinfo` >>>>> Under Solaris it is `isainfo -v` >>>>> What is it under FreeBSD 12? >>>> >>>> Something like >>>>   $ grep Features /var/run/dmesg.boot >>>> ...or am I missing something? >>> >>> I need to know if my processor supports AVX, AVX2, AVX-512, SIMD, etc. >>> Would your approach give me that sort of information? >>> As an example, here's what happens on my desktop machine, which is an Intel i7-4790K root@arthur:5# grep Features /var/run/dmesg.boot Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x7ffafbbf AMD Features=0x2c100800 AMD Features2=0x21 Structured Extended Features=0x2fbb XSAVE Features=0x1 -- Always learn from the mistakes of others, because you won't live long enough to learn from making all possible mistakes yourself. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Feb 2 17:58:13 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F30D14C60E9; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 17:58:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net (relay9-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6D1991D88; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 17:58:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from webmail.gandi.net (webmail8.sd4.0x35.net [10.200.201.8]) (Authenticated sender: mayuresh@kathe.in) by relay9-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A6E7BFF806; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 17:58:02 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 23:28:02 +0530 From: Mayuresh Kathe To: Arthur Chance Cc: herbert@laubners.info, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Checking CPU capabilities Reply-To: mayuresh@kathe.in Mail-Reply-To: mayuresh@kathe.in In-Reply-To: <102ce970-5f0a-dd71-23c1-25837fff938a@qeng-ho.org> References: <2cd8b8b1ae06042a992a48faace1ca91@kathe.in> <13203a3c47f8f0f1c3c408fd3cc6a1c6@kathe.in> <2713664c-255e-6981-8615-4ac8d734ea00@laubners.info> <102ce970-5f0a-dd71-23c1-25837fff938a@qeng-ho.org> Message-ID: X-Sender: mayuresh@kathe.in User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.2 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B6D1991D88 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.29 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[mayuresh@kathe.in]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.975,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kathe.in]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.86)[0.856,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: spool.mail.gandi.net]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.42)[-0.415,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[199.183.70.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29169, ipnet:217.70.176.0/20, country:FR]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.54)[ip: (-1.20), ipnet: 217.70.176.0/20(-0.79), asn: 29169(-0.70), country: FR(-0.02)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 17:58:13 -0000 On 2019-02-02 11:06 PM, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 02/02/2019 17:14, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: >> I am not on a FreeBSD system at the moment, and don't have access to >> one >> either. >> >> On 2019-02-02 10:26 PM, Herbert Laubner wrote: >>> You could try >>> >>> $ grep Features /var/run/dmesg.boot  | grep --colour -e AVX >>> >>> Am 02.02.19 um 22:09 schrieb Mayuresh Kathe: >>>> On 2019-02-02 09:46 PM, Chris Hill wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2019, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Under Linux it is `cat /proc/cpuinfo` >>>>>> Under Solaris it is `isainfo -v` >>>>>> What is it under FreeBSD 12? >>>>> >>>>> Something like >>>>>   $ grep Features /var/run/dmesg.boot >>>>> ...or am I missing something? >>>> >>>> I need to know if my processor supports AVX, AVX2, AVX-512, SIMD, >>>> etc. >>>> Would your approach give me that sort of information? >>>> > > As an example, here's what happens on my desktop machine, which is an > Intel i7-4790K > > root@arthur:5# grep Features /var/run/dmesg.boot > Features=0xbfebfbff > Features2=0x7ffafbbf > AMD Features=0x2c100800 > AMD Features2=0x21 > Structured Extended > Features=0x2fbb > XSAVE Features=0x1 Thanks for that Arthur. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Feb 2 18:03:06 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7740B14C6466; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 18:03:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (static-71-163-255-121.washdc.fios.verizon.net [71.163.255.121]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail", Issuer "mail" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 609CA921A9; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 18:03:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from tripel.monochrome.org (tripel.monochrome.org [192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x12I33ew068153; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 13:03:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 13:03:03 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: Mayuresh Kathe cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Checking CPU capabilities In-Reply-To: <13203a3c47f8f0f1c3c408fd3cc6a1c6@kathe.in> Message-ID: References: <2cd8b8b1ae06042a992a48faace1ca91@kathe.in> <13203a3c47f8f0f1c3c408fd3cc6a1c6@kathe.in> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 609CA921A9 X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.02 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.98)[0.976,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[monochrome.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.90)[0.896,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mail.monochrome.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.39)[0.388,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:701, ipnet:71.163.0.0/16, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-0.13)[asn: 701(-0.59), country: US(-0.07)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 18:03:06 -0000 On Sat, 2 Feb 2019, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > On 2019-02-02 09:46 PM, Chris Hill wrote: >> On Sat, 2 Feb 2019, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: >> >>> Under Linux it is `cat /proc/cpuinfo` >>> Under Solaris it is `isainfo -v` >>> What is it under FreeBSD 12? >> >> Something like >> $ grep Features /var/run/dmesg.boot >> ...or am I missing something? > > I need to know if my processor supports AVX, AVX2, AVX-512, SIMD, etc. > Would your approach give me that sort of information? I think it would. On one machine I get: $ grep Features /var/run/dmesg.boot | grep AVX Features2=0x3d9ae3bf ...and on another I get bupkis: $ grep Features /var/run/dmesg.boot | grep AVX $ So I gather that the first machine has AVX support and the second does not. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Feb 2 18:08:31 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969BF14C687A; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 18:08:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (relay4-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 683239254C; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 18:08:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from webmail.gandi.net (webmail8.sd4.0x35.net [10.200.201.8]) (Authenticated sender: mayuresh@kathe.in) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 44DDEE0004; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 18:08:22 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 23:38:22 +0530 From: Mayuresh Kathe To: Chris Hill Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Checking CPU capabilities Reply-To: mayuresh@kathe.in Mail-Reply-To: mayuresh@kathe.in In-Reply-To: References: <2cd8b8b1ae06042a992a48faace1ca91@kathe.in> <13203a3c47f8f0f1c3c408fd3cc6a1c6@kathe.in> Message-ID: <7613a5579f67197e685d72dfd1484413@kathe.in> X-Sender: mayuresh@kathe.in User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.2 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 683239254C X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.77 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[196.183.70.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[mayuresh@kathe.in]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kathe.in]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.63)[0.631,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: spool.mail.gandi.net]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.969,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29169, ipnet:217.70.176.0/20, country:FR]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.22)[ip: (-4.61), ipnet: 217.70.176.0/20(-0.79), asn: 29169(-0.70), country: FR(-0.02)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 18:08:31 -0000 On 2019-02-02 11:33 PM, Chris Hill wrote: > On Sat, 2 Feb 2019, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > >> On 2019-02-02 09:46 PM, Chris Hill wrote: >>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2019, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: >>> >>>> Under Linux it is `cat /proc/cpuinfo` >>>> Under Solaris it is `isainfo -v` >>>> What is it under FreeBSD 12? >>> >>> Something like >>> $ grep Features /var/run/dmesg.boot >>> ...or am I missing something? >> >> I need to know if my processor supports AVX, AVX2, AVX-512, SIMD, etc. >> Would your approach give me that sort of information? > > I think it would. On one machine I get: > $ grep Features /var/run/dmesg.boot | grep AVX > > Features2=0x3d9ae3bf > > ...and on another I get bupkis: > $ grep Features /var/run/dmesg.boot | grep AVX > $ > > So I gather that the first machine has AVX support and the second does > not. Great. Thanks for that Chris. 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Due to some configuration issues with my sendmail due to the upgrade, I was suddenly relaying spam. I decided it was time to switch to something newer and after a little research installed postfix. I then modified the dovecot config to support postfix instead of sendmail. This has shutdown the spam relaying. However a new issue has cropped up. I cannot access mail via IMAP through dovecot. The failure seems to be with the user authentication, which is configured to use PAM. My imap client (both thunderbird and iOS mail) report that the password is invalid. Looking at both maillog, auth.log and debug.log I see that PAM is refusing authentication. My /usr/local/pam.d/dovecot file contains - # # ns.mahan.org - dovecot pam config # Use pam to access standard user passwd # # PAM configuration for the "dovecot" service # # auth auth required pam_unix.so debug nullok local_pass # account account required pam_unix.so debug try_first_pass local_pass I have testing using the pamtester-0.1.2 and the user authentication passes. I cannot understand what the failure mode code be with dovecot. The command I used was 'pamtester -v dovecot mahan authenticate' As you can see I have enabled PAM debugging and have that output, but it is rather involved so I was going to wait until it was requested. Based on the debug output I see some differences (1 minor, 1 major): Both ways cause the following log message - Feb 2 12:43:24 ns pamtester: in pam_sm_authenticate(): Got user: mahan Feb 2 12:43:24 ns pamtester: in pam_sm_authenticate(): Doing real authentication The minor difference I see is - with pamtester Feb 2 12:43:24 ns pamtester: in pam_get_authtok(): entering Feb 2 12:43:24 ns pamtester: in pam_get_item(): entering: PAM_RHOST Feb 2 12:43:24 ns pamtester: in pam_get_item(): returning PAM_SUCCESS Feb 2 12:43:24 ns pamtester: in pam_get_item(): entering: PAM_OLDAUTHTOK Feb 2 12:43:24 ns pamtester: in pam_get_item(): returning PAM_SUCCESS with dovecot Feb 2 12:46:19 ns auth: in pam_get_authtok(): entering Feb 2 12:46:19 ns auth: in pam_get_item(): entering: PAM_RHOST Feb 2 12:46:19 ns auth: in pam_get_item(): returning PAM_SUCCESS Feb 2 12:46:19 ns auth: in pam_get_item(): entering: PAM_HOST Feb 2 12:46:19 ns auth: in pam_get_item(): returning PAM_SUCCESS Feb 2 12:46:19 ns auth: in pam_get_item(): entering: PAM_OLDAUTHTOK Feb 2 12:46:19 ns auth: in pam_get_item(): returning PAM_SUCCESS Dovecot causes PAM_HOST get item. This may be something that can be included with the '-I' option of pamtester, so I do think it is really an issue. The major difference I see is - with pamtester Feb 2 12:43:24 ns pamtester: in openpam_get_option(): entering: 'authtok_prompt' Feb 2 12:43:24 ns pamtester: in openpam_get_option(): returning NULL Feb 2 12:43:24 ns pamtester: in pam_get_item(): entering: PAM_AUTHTOK_PROMPT Feb 2 12:43:24 ns pamtester: in pam_get_item(): returning PAM_SUCCESS Feb 2 12:43:24 ns pamtester: in openpam_subst(): entering: 'Password:' Feb 2 12:43:24 ns pamtester: in openpam_subst(): returning PAM_SUCCESS with dovecot Feb 2 12:46:19 ns auth: in openpam_get_option(): entering: 'authtok_prompt' Feb 2 12:46:19 ns auth: in openpam_get_option(): returning NULL Feb 2 12:46:19 ns auth: in pam_get_item(): entering: PAM_AUTHTOK_PROMPT Feb 2 12:46:19 ns auth: in pam_get_item(): returning PAM_SUCCESS Feb 2 12:46:19 ns auth: in openpam_subst(): entering: 'Password for %u@%h:' Feb 2 12:46:19 ns auth: in pam_get_item(): entering: PAM_USER Feb 2 12:46:19 ns auth: in pam_get_item(): returning PAM_SUCCESS Feb 2 12:46:19 ns auth: in pam_get_item(): entering: PAM_HOST Feb 2 12:46:19 ns auth: in pam_get_item(): returning PAM_SUCCESS Feb 2 12:46:19 ns auth: in openpam_subst(): returning PAM_SUCCESS I don't know if this is the problem. I am unsure how this works differently between pamtester and dovecot so I am looking for some help here. After these lines, I see for pamtester - Feb 2 12:43:27 ns pamtester: in pam_sm_authenticate(): Got password Feb 2 12:43:27 ns pamtester: in openpam_dispatch(): /usr/lib/pam_unix.so.6: pam_sm_authenticate(): success while with dovecot Feb 2 12:46:19 ns auth: in pam_vprompt(): returning PAM_SUCCESS Feb 2 12:46:19 ns auth: in openpam_dispatch(): /usr/lib/pam_unix.so.6: pam_sm_authenticate(): authentication error I'm sure I have something odd configured in dovecot, but after working through a couple of examples on the web, I don't see what I have done incorrectly. Corrections, pointers, help is welcomed. Thanks Patrick