From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jun 30 05:25:57 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D541215CB59F for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 05:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x432.google.com (mail-wr1-x432.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::432]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B168B70D1C for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 05:25:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x432.google.com with SMTP id c2so10222799wrm.8 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2019 22:25:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=IBcrXqc4d8X9bjR+ZhRiZB128lDl+vh5icT8HwLeSQw=; b=DGQ6NKMVVC3TiHILHax36dW7pp0O23OIwO4oVDjKgNP38P7bHz+RxxlnnQgYBh7zOK Rib+fMyYE77HBC0br7jQ0nyqnKzm/EuLuSTgdEdAGMeT+QdlSuk9bg8jMy5yKd5Zmb5H IBYOALBgxvBXtGYIP5WDaujAFLPfEQYUUI9nXgLS8COmCDxM+5LXZVoLFfNLfMxxMqDd /WlscFxC2SYAAS/aARwFJoEazTl/hoRkv/TdOtwJmu8IBGrXzw63aJftnWSB9Ki+6tAt e/v3Kke781BHABsf/5gys8NTjf+PB05UaC2Ti6ht+ktBXxFWllG7Nvt2JN2w4onbcdGZ sw9w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=IBcrXqc4d8X9bjR+ZhRiZB128lDl+vh5icT8HwLeSQw=; b=OMZsfuZnYCNRkpLaB8rVZov7KvXS9nExmy5RWwKr1hSEHnb9pC+/ar1t9EA8E1CxPa /CvOwdBT4hgnpSH/7WjA4QlIfxiWTvArZgIgjC6VTFTbHUggJOGOPBa5zUd+fP3KYS2s 8T0RMIb3wsBLFja8QHnBCwMt5eZ+Ykfdx+zYh4Vu22acV6vp0ixJY/fp6p4N5c6ebXxT /uGaqxVNgtgtGS7DHuHCno5CqL6e74jfGntG9lyE3ScH5YOBHVElRglzw9x2R5TXZPG2 FO7XKzdiGHB4SpKsu3Bf/aS/r24bCEkFJZDlNb9L7cWvJfzrcEI9T/g2/J0G4pVmpuyW 4k+A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWBeH+RqTo2Wi5AYI8JQcNPQuhvLboWZgfScZSWMSmEmyUAyhWA 8NwRAk+CSTHw27aW666RLOkuzCmXR9UUotidsYP30rKq X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx2PQK6MvGyE87+Ite/JcHloW2HxeUuSywv0dpLgXl5cadKqDSoFqgDSRwjhbYpzjklnOraHkvcVuWih8pqvFA= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:5706:: with SMTP id a6mr12885272wrv.224.1561872354239; Sat, 29 Jun 2019 22:25:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:6000:1091:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sat, 29 Jun 2019 22:25:53 -0700 (PDT) From: David Mehler Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 01:25:53 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: p0f, bpf, and jail To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B168B70D1C X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=DGQ6NKMV; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of davemehler@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::432 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=davemehler@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.85 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.93)[-0.930,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.3.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-2.91)[ip: (-9.57), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.60), asn: 15169(-2.34), country: US(-0.06)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 05:25:57 -0000 Hello, Is anyone using p0f in a jail on FreeBSD 12? I'm getting two errors one about bpf not being available, the other about how the jail is trying to sniff the host's network interface. The tcpdump-type expression is 'tcp dst 1515' Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jun 30 06:10:00 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C398E15CC3AF; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 06:10:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0FB371BEC; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 06:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix, from userid 1237) id DAC074E65A; Sat, 29 Jun 2019 23:09:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: MySQL install error -- Do I need to worry about this? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <87382.1561874997.1@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2019 23:09:57 -0700 Message-ID: <87383.1561874997@segfault.tristatelogic.com> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C0FB371BEC X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rfg@tristatelogic.com designates 69.62.255.118 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rfg@tristatelogic.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.26 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tristatelogic.com]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.tristatelogic.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.16)[-0.158,0]; IP_SCORE(-2.89)[ip: (-7.59), ipnet: 69.62.128.0/17(-3.79), asn: 14051(-3.01), country: US(-0.06)]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14051, ipnet:69.62.128.0/17, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 06:10:00 -0000 I did: % pkg install mysql57-server The process seemd to go OK, but at the very end, I got this troubling message: pkg: mysql56-client-5.6.44 conflicts with mysql57-client-5.7.26 (installs = files into the same place). Problematic file: /usr/local/bin/mysql The date on the /usr/local/bin/mysql file is five days ago: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3835664 Jun 24 22:00 /usr/local/bin/mysql Should I be worried? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jun 30 07:25:50 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26AB15CE0B2 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 07:25:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE28374410 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 07:25:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.225.160]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Ma1sQ-1i4VEx3X8O-00W1h1; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 09:25:35 +0200 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 09:25:35 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Albaro Pereyra <2albaropereyra@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail Message-Id: <20190630092535.7913d305.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:O6bmCKK4pjg8n4zO2yVFZdvAJ/n/VAJTGUS9F33wjNelcRpf0vO OPSZMzvJqVbR5xM9YCf4EjVAroQtPl1lK3jK1SAvcmb1bCup8w7M8vMS9EF7JSlPVQavniM 4wS6OGRZXpw2Jlk9KkcAtPqDgxgPPnPBXqnMLVIMskT7348CeQMBxBatwPCE/NF+hNoqRpE BmtsQA7km0BjcmxAIl3ig== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:0Gb2JFlC0lk=:AgnPDxEW9IrZitZYafoHcx /TjHGiDZh78jKVbQ1/4vHPQlQy9BPmMH9ZOjZNvszRGgfiwIFayNkFsvV+Jp2A7KK9r3QUgB0 VxVlUqt3ffAObKyw9EVcLMXzdsPi7yFAmUWznvEX/fJj6HyvZayRq354wfb5CvQKQU0W8TrvD Kx10Q0w5gylWahrbghDe/sh+qQAonc9LaIi7ab2Swt1EqhMW8/vfCCTx43hpl16cd4Kb8OqGa RnYjhoC8e8t0BbJ0Me3OBDt0Vq8XcQ6gcV8Elqdm3Jfxx0FFdq73K7WOhb/w/9vGEaof4XDbC c6zMYnbhvu55Z2LhYrEuTjmgdJ9gx9az/ZTH2l25WO6r3MdU+7lWmNjxj9lHxrWmuOPz7hNvu kmMeL30hfHlUbL9tliHPiqJCU5Zx32I1hXQLaEktqgtIGyJ2LqqguYM0uTDcmoerntdQobLg8 8aDPwfmgpqaYz1uPojheu16ZxQvxzKtMApHkREAwY3rUJpC/JrIaF/G4Xq1HZrnSWe0FyLcEF ydfkSMlaffrOKhj5G+woNzVdq4T5vhGCb5iQkwhPTsqk/dBqb3JdSbFmDo1DgqLRnMHUR0S4w PA8aLjobIG3ADLCuJ8cCCSoVANXLVPC6PIDYuLYdV1lC+6yaxe4I9YplvghdjGSWcdxEXJG4Q ntnYAfCv5TiHsCGwGTO5Qw4HyEfMuZpHRMVzUORfx15PSXA470Wq51sKqG+NJfo55VcYfXefS qUu+6CTd6LLLFoVcfcXOB5n0fTysBs66Ve7U3yOJUr7SNcR1p+Slf9MeTiw= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: AE28374410 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.97 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx01.schlund.de,mx00.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[160.225.5.178.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.98)[0.979,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.999,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[75.192.72.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.61)[ip: (0.45), ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(0.13), asn: 8560(2.46), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 07:25:50 -0000 On Sat, 29 Jun 2019 14:41:43 -0700, Albaro Pereyra wrote: > The sendmail repo has not been updated for a really long time according to > its wiki article. When will Free-bsd ship with postfix or the ubuntu MTA > that is being attacked recently? The sendmail version included with FreeBSD ist primarily intended for inter-program communication, log, and local notification. Users who want to run "real mail" systems will probably install Postfix or Exim anyway, combined with other services to complete the requirements (MTA, MDA, IMAP services etc.). Those will be obtained from the ports collection where a recent version is available, and which can be up- dated independently from the OS. Oh, and why should FreeBSD ship with something that is being attacked? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jun 30 07:30:42 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9D215CE395 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 07:30:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DFD274659 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 07:30:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.225.160]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue106 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MBV6n-1hpz1F25oF-00Cxx5; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 09:30:30 +0200 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 09:30:30 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Albaro Pereyra <2albaropereyra@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GNU split out of date Message-Id: <20190630093030.94836a06.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:QCiPIzj65vlxUDOzZfbvPfF6hsU7FCXrJuLXc1GaJneqqqMsJpg bLcsZGSaupHMwjsHyk1O1ZG4ydby8yl616gOaHRCS6zbBLoY70uzxphdXP/aR8kvlqYHT0e w0pj+C0TKz3m6r0SMojglYHzhaGD1aGrW6E7WebT5RSPJct4FJBLWcRyWs0/q+y6FMDWQUm jurlCcJoLtMGjzh0/BJew== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:VivCMwKSRkc=:oAD7LqMtRGp7FYSzKlsQ36 J2jVZyW+ZrVt2Tm08tG1nhEuXlGErQ/xt+N3/QSqOIW8pwbN4AN9UABIQ8iHfsPUNTQb8svrW rXBT62TpNQnAviDHGx57Kfw/4wh66/W20JMBDtSViOUzPBEU/tYtWd/UzHivuVm+sXKaUc6ur pTqNH3kQmTUewZDizb+PBuzoKuyn/9Iqz2PKdOVwFbOnt5me9NzpsDjKiGmN5mKKfJCaO9ebj fwj5gcbDmVA6hdaFij6qpr57aGPRBMT6J1F+MmdT+Dmymu7oP8C9teHDjKYg3xvYTvqDEdgcg RnMM5VKmvWJMbt6HlsYMcRZkBb4oFY7Gjf2GBa8KXyWfmbYJfkC9RdmLP2bIDmES2LW6INGhv wRMJMaNXoTAiTSdbi3H9FiWLao1NRwOQQz5cQI8dB+K63xUiQOFoBqSNPJeav+YIE8Lmnr5/j W1aRgYMEaE3FWkgZlq9akzn1BedhbE7T/41AQrOpDoKfmGEqTvEpro/qgJVWYOAiZ+MeOlvQb f0oGWVUg6VuF+kTWD6tgQgGyuwDb7wd11h3+Qx7WnH+hQp1dTXBtEoeNZc8htEPZ7owp1hclg Tle8J15yotZxQiUFXcbseNo2bzktQkmvi+sfcxW45U+7Xt9yOr+kFoGOrYUit3IVT/+QKAJLX QsOr2N8nwg5kvZfId7K+KOGquob6wlbcRnwiBlOcfvlp3yjUKsbY21/sVoDrHztYZomUWN3q4 5axQFvMPcHLpdJfrtjN5vXHukk83XvAT8s96CdXyAeoX8+skcmQ++RU72+k= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 0DFD274659 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.96 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx01.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[160.225.5.178.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.98)[0.978,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.999,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[73.192.72.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.59)[ip: (0.39), ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(0.13), asn: 8560(2.46), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 07:30:42 -0000 On Sat, 29 Jun 2019 13:48:37 -0700, Albaro Pereyra wrote: > Why are tools such as GNU split so far behind let's say those found in > linux for example? Because FreeBSD's split version implements the POSIX standard behaviour and requirements for split, nothing more, nothing less. > If there is no real reason, how can we as a community expedite the process > of getting this completed? If the system's version of a tool is not sufficient, a GNU version of the program (which extends the standards) can be installed from the ports collection, such as gawg for awk, gsed for sed, gnuls for ls, and so on. The versions provided by the OS form a "common denominator" based on the standards. As GNU extensions usually aren't portable, they did not become part of those standard utilities. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Users who > want to run "real mail" systems will probably install Postfix or Exim > anyway, And why not sendmail? Is it not real mail? Rodrigo From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jun 30 17:09:36 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744C615DA8EE for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 17:09:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x432.google.com (mail-wr1-x432.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::432]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45BA58DF21 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 17:09:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x432.google.com with SMTP id c27so3514199wrb.2 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 10:09:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=e1Pvud3xHte9GjLsvwnnwwbHYSgwkSEg2CUbhd+dzgE=; b=HYBceS/lLB/bshT8J9aLKevqgAFiJDakmyWvr1AqeNctxzmrqIb68/NmF7fFjzGyFB DmEX7dTUWfLsGMNd570SD+azWxYW8+8MdyKc5nfZ9jkF6bABx6pX/A0ULXaeiDUigFza f/3R+qdnXNAb9RR+mCghNY6xDfFSetP2BpR1SPdKNMoYWRyWa5QVJnKrwznoQ4JeYtHH dx/6GfliyEV+xN7fLr6GWiZDwf9zJDKo5QBt0eaXlmZs529iw0bYLGT2+QCoGJkCCgI6 iSarzLqMRq3MBaov8vM8rrRunZtOu2STXhMQoJpAW42caEjTRJ7uRplYn7XznVEccoFr xBPQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=e1Pvud3xHte9GjLsvwnnwwbHYSgwkSEg2CUbhd+dzgE=; b=W5YwfF6s3N3WIp5S5fg1lDXUF2sTketaf35j3LhyrdMjFBJ4vSDf/0Z/LAc3UGsVlG PTo71FYiv872HGzSuWgNOHR/bANkf2750juFG5x7Pzhjm7R3XtOZpUyyQAfHD0ylN76N gGosnfhe9LSuBUsXKrDHWFanw7YIB/bK5VFWf8BsU1i7FzTwzRcgKoyFLN5LbO9bcq05 IcyxRpA8LKeu0arUFsLBzP6PyXHyMHCy/UaB95HXU5Vx6y/tuIJi8fnAzKSl8msTBy6j AxZzenISIswkU50CaZWUpuIrRh3F8CHVjNVXFEkN7SIUYEmLZE6IOVucWBaiTbh3f2Pi G4lg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUiW0VDmd2Cn5bVT/jLR910VoqNECDX7aChZbzeyog2qw6bUlPR ym9BHnNK2ZPJcuXP7lcQG6kk9HYKBHm2WAboxX7AvPlg X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxkRMrb4KzT3/sb88vCj7tQTaDHO45KrKi5EsUHCTkvJ4Bam54diKIhaX5QgYTOj522JVeL9BZ77warq347YHE= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:5706:: with SMTP id a6mr14632073wrv.224.1561914573046; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 10:09:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:6000:1091:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 10:09:32 -0700 (PDT) From: David Mehler Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 13:09:32 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD host, multiple jails, many with web servers To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 45BA58DF21 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=HYBceS/l; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of davemehler@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::432 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=davemehler@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.82 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.90)[-0.896,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-2.92)[ip: (-9.59), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.60), asn: 15169(-2.34), country: US(-0.06)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.3.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 17:09:36 -0000 Hello, I've got a FreeBSD 12 host hosting about six jails, of which 3 now have web servers, one more up and coming. I'm needing to get to these web servers without doing as I'm doing now port redirection. Any help appreciated. Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jun 30 17:46:07 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B13615DB50D for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 17:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scouting@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq2.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.165]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13DAE8F193 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 17:46:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scouting@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.34.120] (helo=smtp12.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hhdtl-0005AY-0g; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 19:45:57 +0200 Received: from 84-25-247-31.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl ([84.25.247.31] helo=ra.boosten.org) by smtp12.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hhdtk-0006iE-SD; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 19:45:56 +0200 Received: from [192.168.13.34] (peters-iphone.boosten.org [192.168.13.34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ra.boosten.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6293D343300E; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 19:45:56 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: FreeBSD host, multiple jails, many with web servers From: Peter Boosten X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16F203) In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 19:45:55 +0200 Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: David Mehler X-SourceIP: 84.25.247.31 X-Ziggo-spambar: / X-Ziggo-spamscore: 0.0 X-Ziggo-spamreport: CMAE Analysis: v=2.3 cv=e654tph/ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=JWBJsaPp29SgP5DpYRBqZw==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dq6fvYVFJ5YA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=L6ntulNzRGWOR9hNVCYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 13DAE8F193 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.74 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:212.54.32.0/19]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[boosten.org:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[boosten.org,quarantine]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[boosten.dyndns.org]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[165.34.54.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.16)[ipnet: 212.54.32.0/20(-3.86), asn: 33915(-1.95), country: NL(0.01)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[31.247.25.84.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; ASN(0.00)[asn:33915, ipnet:212.54.32.0/20, country:NL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[boosten.org:s=ra]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.972,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 17:46:07 -0000 A term that comes to mind is reverse proxying, apache, nginx or squid.=20 Peter > On 30 Jun 2019, at 19:09, David Mehler wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > I've got a FreeBSD 12 host hosting about six jails, of which 3 now > have web servers, one more up and coming. I'm needing to get to these > web servers without doing as I'm doing now port redirection. >=20 > Any help appreciated. >=20 > Thanks. > Dave. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jun 30 17:51:16 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DECF15DB804 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 17:51:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 551828F3AB for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 17:51:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.225.160]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M1pk6-1hfS7a2KJk-002CSH; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 19:51:02 +0200 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 19:51:02 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Roderick Cc: Albaro Pereyra <2albaropereyra@gmail.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail Message-Id: <20190630195102.90e6e481.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20190630092535.7913d305.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:MUkJxq8YHwkVitu91yiBIjughRnfvaSb/qLHjymZsK4vN8jFR7r SunH8KAledNE20JBekY8qC5f4dfGDyYHCs7BzZwIxdVqTEkD8O0qNWBZ5H0BuFzexT4b3lV HeaMEs5Za5Vyv8ccHMdtjQ/DqOXNoaic6rhYorGhV9cExRh56ZcDmpNDzGqB5GKE7J2jDhm /VsoTxVq1yOYc45HiZWmw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:O9OHVh9UvnI=:K5ofpnz+AOPH/q/NzioXWx 91bbQfGMIkP4QzvqMnYqRcRZ/D8ixHVyxkH5xCSYtscS1zmG744bRd3LolDOr3Nf7OZiHjs8+ isKpqK/oVJqaSxJe8ChoBqeObMH/FrwkaO/zrCtkljRhj/NJYsdV0pzPadFtHVVzVD/Iw0TeP 8wOxyADB+kfwZsmvXZngwIVFWBsvEGpFc/T4LfHFmi/dxbXYwBr+ZIAD59WCmMq8Y/oGX21Tn u6A8MKvpNeYPzv6GlVN+qZgZfLIIVX3hz29DFuc0HfDLEB9l+oYex1F3PMge1+uBg2XWboes+ uPRnBeQorZ6hQs7zV8nGcGvc3pi4WEjw9wh8bvh8+qcKtbxosGrnvjerQEoObMZxAxpSMKygr rd4Sz3XN4OkKy0IcXBNlISQxHZV6HPQmcCYLwg6kACxvn4FZrNRQIvLQjs761Pmws+smYGXvP 27sHTHy8FVk8B0e8Ts7kzdxWZGU6QI/J66XH1PBy09/LwiuQ9U1lO1VnivQfvQDp9F3r7yD1U JbM0rce8rjc3yO7aK0MLU41MfXC4x3A8AnDiuPv32V3C//RtG3pk37gLeTwVfvdu3l62JAvLI HpE7H8RM0iPmV/jwd3fm0mKz00rx+SK6VQnjtjFRcj0ZcNiaNGmOkE+xASBV1wBhiyLR7Vbaw aV6zvzrP0oBzFzAHWsEhFGvnwY0UEt1n4uTd8bcTuilGNTC285F7ER5HqgY7WYH2U5i0o9GoT 5aLfM/O6ZHcMeV+Hcox4nblG6HjLGBuaNq4mkNgDviN3lbdf7b9gVJWbm3o= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 551828F3AB X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.72 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx01.schlund.de]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[160.225.5.178.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.77)[0.767,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.73)[0.733,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.86)[0.860,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[10.17.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[10.17.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.03)[ip: (-1.22), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.40), asn: 8560(2.46), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 17:51:16 -0000 On Sun, 30 Jun 2019 15:50:43 +0000 (UTC), Roderick wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Jun 2019, Polytropon wrote: > > > The sendmail version included with FreeBSD ist primarily intended for > > inter-program communication, log, and local notification. Users who > > want to run "real mail" systems will probably install Postfix or Exim > > anyway, > > And why not sendmail? Is it not real mail? It's a matter of preference. While many admins suggest using Postfix or Exim, there are still lots of sendmail installations running, so there is nothing bad per se regarding sendmail; it's probably the convenience of configuration where sendmail is a bit... different. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jun 30 21:55:50 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F6915E1674 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 21:55:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A905A73715 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 21:55:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1561931749; x=1564523749; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=L56cJMEl5J9uPtZ/9OR6NupLWgtjzyxqdGBnIlr/Bio=; b=P/EmTSjxVWA3hYPODPSeww24BnkjBhT+6w58+5jB7JNnaHUxNb2D70xXt6tUM2GULZ/4e9UPQ0Lnk2BRRDMm/ZRjSamj9bH4AnCEnm9sWTUbKs4EqPjDRLMxxWYq7T7bJZBf7Dl4AN85SI06PcgJ5Mqe3/Id+4iMuPJvTlbCNFY= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xYjUwMDAwMDExZmE5NTYuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r3.h.in.socketlabs.com (r3.h.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.180.13]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 30 Jun 2019 17:55:34 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r3.h.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 30 Jun 2019 17:55:34 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1hhhnJ-000BnH-Cw; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 22:55:33 +0100 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 22:55:33 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: sendmail Message-Id: <20190630225533.1d07a8328a1aba45bd6735b5@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20190630195102.90e6e481.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20190630092535.7913d305.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190630195102.90e6e481.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A905A73715 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=P/EmTSjx; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.09 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mxbh.socketlabs.com,mxbsg.socketlabs.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.21)[ip: (-0.56), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(-0.26), asn: 7381(-0.19), country: US(-0.06)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.87)[-0.867,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 21:55:51 -0000 On Sun, 30 Jun 2019 19:51:02 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jun 2019 15:50:43 +0000 (UTC), Roderick wrote: > > > > On Sun, 30 Jun 2019, Polytropon wrote: > > > > > The sendmail version included with FreeBSD ist primarily intended for > > > inter-program communication, log, and local notification. Users who > > > want to run "real mail" systems will probably install Postfix or Exim > > > anyway, > > > > And why not sendmail? Is it not real mail? > > It's a matter of preference. While many admins suggest using Postfix > or Exim, there are still lots of sendmail installations running, so There's one here, my incoming mail server runs sendmail, spamassassin, procmail and dovecot - it gets the job done. My outgoing server runs exim (it was easier to configure to talk to an authenticated relay some years back IIRC), it also gets the job done. > there is nothing bad per se regarding sendmail; it's probably the > convenience of configuration where sendmail is a bit... different. ;-) Quite so, sendmail.cf is a trifle unusual in syntax and the rewriting rules have been growing for decades and have become quite complex and hard to follow in places. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jun 30 23:09:01 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A238415E287E for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 23:09:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jtrigg@huiekin.org) Received: from argent.heraldsnet.org (smtp.pegasuscomputing.com [64.237.40.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "pegasuscomputing.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 040CA75DA8 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 23:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jtrigg@huiekin.org) Received: from [100.82.237.190] (190.sub-174-204-36.myvzw.com [174.204.36.190]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by argent.heraldsnet.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4BB1A816246; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 19:08:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 19:08:51 -0400 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <1414270395.52662.1561684266029@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2135741875.940696.1561667660482.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2135741875.940696.1561667660482@mail.yahoo.com> <445zoqhdwv.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20190628005238.14f1b65a@gumby.homeunix.com> <1414270395.52662.1561684266029@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: How to update ports for portmaster? To: Ben Brink ,freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jim Trigg Message-ID: <33BDE13B-2184-4B1E-8838-3603196462EF@huiekin.org> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 040CA75DA8 X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jtrigg@huiekin.org designates 64.237.40.43 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jtrigg@huiekin.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.47 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.05)[-0.047,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.64)[-0.641,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[5]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.48)[0.483,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.huiekin.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[asn: 20473(-0.01), country: US(-0.06)]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:64.237.32.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 23:09:02 -0000 To explain it more fully, portsnap fetch followed by portsnap extract overw= rites the current port tree=2E It does not affect installed ports=2E Then p= ortsnap fetch followed by portsnap update updates the current port tree in = place, again not affecting installed ports=2E Portmaster uses an existing p= ort tree top modify the installed ports=2E Thanks,=20 Jim Trigg=20 On June 27, 2019 9:11:06 PM EDT, Ben Brink via freebsd-questions wrote: >Thank you=2E I read the manual and refer to it first, which is why I'm >asking=2E Context is often implied in the manuals, which I'm very good at >missing=2E >This is on an image published by freebsd=2E >The "bug" report explains exactly the symptoms and circumstances I'm >dealing with=2E The report concludes that the ports tree needs updated, >subsequently, that is my working diagnosis and prognosis=2E > >Apparently there's enough of ports on the image that installing >portmaster via make install worked=2E >The status of the ports tree on a new image published by FreeBSD=2Eorg is >not clear to me=2E I must have missed the document that explains it or >misunderstood where it is stated=2E >Thank you again for taking the time to respond with information about >what I should be doing to rebuild, update, or install ports=2E=2E >=2E/ben >On Thursday, June 27, 2019, 4:54:00 PM PDT, RW via freebsd-questions > wrote: =20 >=20 > On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 18:16:48 -0400 >Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > >> > I've also tried: >> > portsnap update >> > # but it complains that I need to portsnap extract also=2E=2E And yet= , >I >> > don't want to create voluminous storage=2E=2E and have two ports >> > management systems in use=2E=C2=A0=20 >>=20 >> Well, portsnap update doesn't update your ports tree=2E Only the >extract >> step does that=2E > >Just to be clear, 'portsnap update' does update your ports tree if the >tree has previously been initialized with a 'portsnap extract'=2E >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd=2Eorg mailing list >https://lists=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd=2Eorg" > =20 >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd=2Eorg mailing list >https://lists=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd=2Eorg" --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 1 03:04:41 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD93C15C2C59 for ; 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[24.24.153.237]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t96sm7855668pjb.1.2019.06.30.20.04.38 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 30 Jun 2019 20:04:38 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: sendmail From: Albaro Pereyra <2albaropereyra@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16F203) In-Reply-To: <20190630092535.7913d305.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 20:04:38 -0700 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20190630092535.7913d305.freebsd@edvax.de> To: Polytropon X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D79E3840B4 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=ccLdW4Va; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 2albaropereyra@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::52b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=2albaropereyra@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.20 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.983,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[b.2.5.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-2.71)[ip: (-8.03), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.13), asn: 15169(-2.34), country: US(-0.06)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 03:04:42 -0000 I just wanted to emphasize the importance of security in an MTA. That being= said sendmail is archaic and there doesn=E2=80=99t seem to be any milestone= s to improve it. -- Albaro Pereyra Software Engineer Creator of The Internet Ruler 11561 Haynes St. N. Hollywood CA, 91606 +1 (818) 644-1542 2AlbaroPereyra@gmail.com > On Jun 30, 2019, at 12:25 AM, Polytropon wrote: >=20 >> On Sat, 29 Jun 2019 14:41:43 -0700, Albaro Pereyra wrote: >> The sendmail repo has not been updated for a really long time according t= o >> its wiki article. When will Free-bsd ship with postfix or the ubuntu MTA= >> that is being attacked recently? >=20 > The sendmail version included with FreeBSD ist primarily intended for > inter-program communication, log, and local notification. Users who > want to run "real mail" systems will probably install Postfix or Exim > anyway, combined with other services to complete the requirements > (MTA, MDA, IMAP services etc.). Those will be obtained from the ports > collection where a recent version is available, and which can be up- > dated independently from the OS. >=20 > Oh, and why should FreeBSD ship with something that is being attacked? :-)= >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 1 06:43:08 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1413615CA1D5 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 06:43:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodrigo.readi@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x431.google.com (mail-wr1-x431.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::431]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B40994F1E for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 06:43:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodrigo.readi@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x431.google.com with SMTP id p11so1189273wro.5 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 23:43:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id :references:user-agent:mime-version; bh=bbgisWzrLP0naCiiWKMdMMer5AFE+NsY3jESdEVpX/w=; b=N6tIL4cSnauJIBXiv+UnK/rN08HJgKUhMc5jv4YbMdlStKRhStbkkJGCZmC3Fo5x1u f4vpNDf7Ia1zJ+PAqdDUXoP+UDtoC70njoISQfgnK4aomVBYbuAqDF9dCWkbkDj4t+Xd MpTfCJGELWjRPHqfCu347S2GJEPJ5F1eRWArWsLzfr5wiEvVobGO4RPQoCIP8nI2Bv9X AgBKgKVc6AQ5sm8Hn3MeM9nrIJ9mtW5Ri8HgoPf1ZAJCPOEVQAkggqGsJZKtp6OS+Zpp LWdMv3RrNQB64VxCkiGO8cgUNs6Px+1+EfZsQTt1qfhV2pn/SlQ6JZgbNGTgBCfgo+/j sLQg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUeqQjX6y5szHtsPr7OaAA0RjMynhTIkvSWIpmfZA7DOi/3kZJD EVWVbqvFCbwLyLgpYsM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyRzUXpnSUyEgtXaxN/iOVZYgBC9WSthFIDc8mj+rl+Dt8CSxnuqE6FRXWFrRs3p6jXAMxa9g== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:554b:: with SMTP id g11mr15548832wrw.10.1561963385740; Sun, 30 Jun 2019 23:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.43] ([88.130.159.95]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id n125sm13646551wmf.6.2019.06.30.23.43.04 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 30 Jun 2019 23:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 06:43:01 +0000 (UTC) From: Rodrigo Readi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: sendmail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20190630092535.7913d305.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B40994F1E X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.86 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; CTYPE_MIXED_BOGUS(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.04)[0.042,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/mixed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.3.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-2.90)[ip: (-9.49), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.60), asn: 15169(-2.34), country: US(-0.06)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 06:43:08 -0000 On Sun, 30 Jun 2019, Albaro Pereyra wrote: > I just wanted to emphasize the importance of security in an MTA. > That being said sendmail is archaic and there doesn’t seem to be > any milestones to improve it. What is there insecure that is secure in other MTAs? BTW: I have an installation relaying with authorization. With the m4 macros it was not very difficult to configure. Rodrigo From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 1 07:14:55 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B24515D2BCE for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 07:14:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq2.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.165]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98DAE97E62 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 07:14:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.34.119] (helo=smtp11.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hhqWY-0005U3-JI; Mon, 01 Jul 2019 09:14:50 +0200 Received: from 84-25-247-31.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl ([84.25.247.31] helo=ra.boosten.org) by smtp11.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hhqWY-0000xB-F0; Mon, 01 Jul 2019 09:14:50 +0200 Received: from amon.boosten.org (Amon.boosten.org [192.168.13.105]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ra.boosten.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1F96D3432FCD; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 09:14:50 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: sendmail From: Peter Boosten In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 09:14:49 +0200 Cc: freebsd-questions , Polytropon Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20190630092535.7913d305.freebsd@edvax.de> To: Rodrigo Readi X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-SourceIP: 84.25.247.31 X-Ziggo-spambar: / X-Ziggo-spamscore: 0.0 X-Ziggo-spamreport: CMAE Analysis: v=2.3 cv=bcYVr9HB c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=JWBJsaPp29SgP5DpYRBqZw==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=0o9FgrsRnhwA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=skXIRnOuzT9K6CweumwA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 98DAE97E62 X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.57 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:212.54.32.0/19]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: boosten.dyndns.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[boosten.org:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[boosten.org,quarantine]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[googlemail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[31.247.25.84.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.22)[ipnet: 212.54.32.0/20(-3.99), asn: 33915(-2.14), country: NL(0.01)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[165.34.54.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:33915, ipnet:212.54.32.0/20, country:NL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[boosten.org:s=ra]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.27)[0.268,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 07:14:55 -0000 > Op 1 jul. 2019, om 08:43 heeft Rodrigo Readi via freebsd-questions = het volgende geschreven: >=20 >=20 > On Sun, 30 Jun 2019, Albaro Pereyra wrote: >=20 >> I just wanted to emphasize the importance of security in an MTA. >> That being said sendmail is archaic and there doesn=E2=80=99t seem to = be >> any milestones to improve it. >=20 > What is there insecure that is secure in other MTAs? >=20 The thing people keep hammering about is based on some vulnerabilities = >10 years ago, _and_ that sendmail is based on a single executable, = while other MTAs spread the tasks over several. Peter Btw. I use postfix myself, just because of ease of configuration. 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Thread-Topic: Any chance for discard support with ext2 driver ? 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Mon, 01 Jul 2019 05:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 12:02:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Roderick To: Peter Boosten cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: sendmail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20190630092535.7913d305.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 8DCD473451 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=uUNp7vaJ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of hruodr@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::333 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=hruodr@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.78 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; 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Is that really so bad? Why people do not hammer exim, the standard MTA in debian, for the same reason? Does it have advantages that neutralizes it? I tried a little exim, a little postfix and used at the end sendmail. I googled to find differences in order to decide, but I did not find anything that helped much to take a decision. Rod. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 1 12:21:56 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE25D15D9343 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 12:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.164]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09E9774258 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 12:21:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.34.119] (helo=smtp11.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hhvJZ-0005c1-Fa; Mon, 01 Jul 2019 14:21:45 +0200 Received: from 84-25-247-31.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl ([84.25.247.31] helo=ra.boosten.org) by smtp11.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hhvJZ-0004Uv-AE; Mon, 01 Jul 2019 14:21:45 +0200 Received: from amon.boosten.org (Amon.boosten.org [192.168.13.105]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ra.boosten.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CCB3B3433011; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 14:21:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter Boosten Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: sendmail Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 14:21:44 +0200 In-Reply-To: Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions To: Roderick References: <20190630092535.7913d305.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-SourceIP: 84.25.247.31 X-Ziggo-spambar: / X-Ziggo-spamscore: 0.0 X-Ziggo-spamreport: CMAE Analysis: v=2.3 cv=bcYVr9HB c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=JWBJsaPp29SgP5DpYRBqZw==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=0o9FgrsRnhwA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=sA-ssjpUAAAA:8 a=KNFoGfay12JKX1pHOLEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=GoZNF5h-GWR8aIH5:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=MeU51efvtLpnGWnoXA2X:22 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 09E9774258 X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.75 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:212.54.32.0/19]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: boosten.dyndns.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[boosten.org:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[boosten.org,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.949,0]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[164.34.54.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.20)[ipnet: 212.54.32.0/20(-3.90), asn: 33915(-2.09), country: NL(0.01)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[31.247.25.84.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; ASN(0.00)[asn:33915, ipnet:212.54.32.0/20, country:NL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[boosten.org:s=ra]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 12:21:56 -0000 > Op 1 jul. 2019, om 14:02 heeft Roderick het = volgende geschreven: >=20 >=20 > On Mon, 1 Jul 2019, Peter Boosten via freebsd-questions wrote: >=20 >> _and_ that sendmail is based on a single executable, while other MTAs >> spread the tasks over several. >=20 > Is that really so bad? Why people do not hammer exim, the standard MTA = in > debian, for the same reason? Does it have advantages that neutralizes = it? Exim has its share of vulnerabilities right now = (https://www.zdnet.com/article/new-rce-vulnerability-impacts-nearly-half-o= f-the-internets-email-servers/ = ). The thing with a single executable is that it runs as root, while with = postfix most services run as =E2=80=98postfix=E2=80=99. 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Thread-Topic: Any chance for discard support with ext2 driver ? 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Guilmette" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MySQL install error -- Do I need to worry about this? References: <87383.1561874997@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 09:18:46 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87383.1561874997@segfault.tristatelogic.com> (Ronald F. Guilmette's message of "Sat, 29 Jun 2019 23:09:57 -0700") Message-ID: <44a7dxopu1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 551E975D28 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.68 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.87)[0.872,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ilk.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: be-well.ilk.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.94)[0.935,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.83)[0.827,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:23.30.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.06)[ip: (0.16), ipnet: 23.30.0.0/15(0.10), asn: 7922(0.08), country: US(-0.06)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 13:19:03 -0000 "Ronald F. Guilmette" writes: > I did: > > % pkg install mysql57-server > > The process seemd to go OK, but at the very end, I got this > troubling message: > > pkg: mysql56-client-5.6.44 conflicts with mysql57-client-5.7.26 > (installs files into the same place). Problematic file: > /usr/local/bin/mysql > > The date on the /usr/local/bin/mysql file is five days ago: > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3835664 Jun 24 22:00 /usr/local/bin/mysql > > Should I be worried? It could cause some problems, although it also might not. Basically, what the message is trying to tell you is that ports doesn't support having mysql56 and mysql57 installed on the same system. The question is why you have both; in most cases, it's perfectly reasonable to just remove one and stick with the other. 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I see, Thanks. MeTA1, fork of sendmail X, is perhaps an improvement. I also did not test OpenSMTP. Interesting is, what one reads in the man page of MeTA1: --------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.meta1.org/compare.html [...] How to choose an MTA? It depends... Most people do not (actively) choose an MTA, but they simply use what comes with their OS (which may explain why sendmail was so popular). Those who actively choose an MTA do it usually based on personal preferences instead of objective criteria. This may be as strange as I don't like the author/community of xyz or as simple as I prefer this configuration file syntax/style. Other factors (besides those listed above) may include (free/commercial) support and (active) development. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rod. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 1 14:52:35 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C968D15DCBFB for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 14:52:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F4448169D for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 14:52:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B36D71804B for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 09:52:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: sendmail To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190630092535.7913d305.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <84ea27af-6a88-f140-e49e-18fa2e4e3f81@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 09:52:27 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4F4448169D X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=fail reason="" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.83 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.47)[-0.468,0]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.92)[-0.922,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.06)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.48)[0.485,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[kicp.uchicago.edu]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 14:52:36 -0000 On 2019-06-30 22:04, Albaro Pereyra wrote: > I just wanted to emphasize the importance of security in an MTA. That being said sendmail is archaic and there doesn’t seem to be any milestones to improve it. > I for one, whenever I have to run MTA on FreeBSD machine, use postfix. And this goes for both: listening to localhost only or to external interfaces. Still, I'm OK with whatever MTA ships with the base system. Whatever FreeBSD project team is happier to have integrated, my attitude is: let them do it. Whoever wants things done differently has in the first place compose the system distribution and maintain that securely for several years oneself. I for one do realize I am not able to maintain my own system distribution. So, I refrain from insisting the the system maintainers should have these or those components instead of the ones they decided to have. I invite everybody else to look at it from similar point of view. Valeri > -- > Albaro Pereyra > Software Engineer > Creator of The Internet Ruler > 11561 Haynes St. > N. Hollywood CA, 91606 > +1 (818) 644-1542 > 2AlbaroPereyra@gmail.com > >> On Jun 30, 2019, at 12:25 AM, Polytropon wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2019 14:41:43 -0700, Albaro Pereyra wrote: >>> The sendmail repo has not been updated for a really long time according to >>> its wiki article. When will Free-bsd ship with postfix or the ubuntu MTA >>> that is being attacked recently? >> >> The sendmail version included with FreeBSD ist primarily intended for >> inter-program communication, log, and local notification. Users who >> want to run "real mail" systems will probably install Postfix or Exim >> anyway, combined with other services to complete the requirements >> (MTA, MDA, IMAP services etc.). Those will be obtained from the ports >> collection where a recent version is available, and which can be up- >> dated independently from the OS. >> >> Oh, and why should FreeBSD ship with something that is being attacked? :-) >> >> >> -- >> Polytropon >> Magdeburg, Germany >> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 >> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 1 16:24:57 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951EA15DF2CB for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 16:24:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalescott@shaw.ca) Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (smtp-out-so.shaw.ca [64.59.136.138]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C63986958 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 16:24:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalescott@shaw.ca) Received: from [192.168.103.12] ([174.0.43.39]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id hz6nhYp39o7SQhz6rhrQHg; Mon, 01 Jul 2019 10:24:54 -0600 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=shaw.ca; s=s20180605; t=1561998294; bh=vunz4etfcQ7ixGXpdZuYMKZu1PzNYy/2o5TqcTLxoHs=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=Lay/QILHMzkOXxxG7M7h8cyJg9f+ya2KWQCbbOiysd3HJke8cecM47EJkxwFr3LYl T2RXNng9OFyETZedI1Kc7ESbf5jgnxIHzOQZVzxhiuelkTcgjNwzLK/pWEGTz7oqTL 4cXJ0H4uTN/aGUE/fpTl8wLvNfKxvXy3zyRVokw3pzur2Fa3c/DPVC2Hmkyk/IMsjI PaLXcbBxK3Gu2QH15VAxMOAFvKwfUd9ArEsUSYPKStEtylMjK+JW8hTugtF3yOoiVq kuZQmMId0jTIwFzU8Nzfy1F0Tp2s+okWlFDSHbc5zbHFeqT4HYS7mn5ld+r+pvbJUN +GC5hb9UC0S6g== X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=Go88BX9C c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=TiBur8m8wieNAdBnNdHE5Q==:117 a=TiBur8m8wieNAdBnNdHE5Q==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=ygK_X2zPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=0Y8HymYlgaY2nclAZnsA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=4qcVx3PUitVI6Cg1ThgA:9 a=oqJ3LehKM3PCF3df:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=803KFXeODAOOmDmejUqM:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: FreeBSD host, multiple jails, many with web servers From: Dale Scott X-Mailer: iPad Mail (16F203) In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 10:24:48 -0600 Cc: freebsd-questions Message-Id: <304E49AE-841D-4129-B298-D36E541BFDE8@shaw.ca> References: To: David Mehler X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfNpgE1nPaFUy5iX2thh5lObNJ4Skl/5NMtr559BYd5qx+QHMxHv4rr863fA/Quk/KNX1+667SCQPSivcLQ2D5Y3RkOYgVdE10Vv6OU/scYOXDJ3ckCO7 6vMRL0lzYJ2MQo84SiiXXZTZELLxYj8XfeWvdDDubLbKc2Jm8pXwKpAkJbi1AJEXrPSmexRKuqo03x6tsScuyYfoIjv8OVykT/TUR5t8Z4vqOIyGS5mmDzG+ QuAktdlxXEPnGIeTGN4cnQ== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4C63986958 X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=shaw.ca header.s=s20180605 header.b=Lay/QILH; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=shaw.ca; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dalescott@shaw.ca designates 64.59.136.138 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dalescott@shaw.ca X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.05 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:64.59.136.128/27]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: idcmail-mx1so.cg.shawcable.net]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[shaw.ca:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.945,0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[shaw.ca,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.49)[ip: (-6.54), ipnet: 64.59.128.0/20(-3.28), asn: 6327(-2.55), country: CA(-0.09)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[138.136.59.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6327, ipnet:64.59.128.0/20, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[shaw.ca:s=s20180605]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[shaw.ca.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 16:24:57 -0000 BSD Now episode 259 has a segment on running multiple services using jails a= nd a single public IP address. 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YMMV. --=20 And I was grounded while you filled the skies I was dumbfounded by truth; you cut through lies From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 2 12:18:59 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFA615D1B5D for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 12:18:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2980834FC for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 12:18:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.25.2]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mirb8-1iELFB10lw-00erdZ for ; Tue, 02 Jul 2019 14:18:45 +0200 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 14:18:42 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: USB "video grabber" input selection Message-Id: <20190702141842.ad0893cd.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:uGssczz+sTOIypi7PjsEyo9HIjJPvSKwHfyCIkaCny2Upg5bHv+ Hw7mw0QlUC78tDZ6PUXbt9sBRoSmXQJWDQKTt5IjBQrAeWPGGrjy+6LAFFZ+alPn/a4Co0S ePlQtKGHyVzayPsi3jTkjC7J9zyYW0bruQsuy+iCqE4fdTrOqD5CYQfBaQj9/OeE58Cy1uZ qKnMqgzCe3H5IRxhrmrPA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:WjNij85T1l4=:q4DEPPtWMyuc0ErttXUHXh kLPsQBdDSDXxsIiNffZAvLVthY0vDL6m5s1aNHRjucy8Q47JYC4ji0L8frTMKGOXx+lvLwBJJ QQQcW6TmRP70Ifx+onHuOGt/QMb+AEXKodIZkQzY/4z+uTLTA5BubPaxtmrax326M+IDGik2R BvEGbPrsQEEzmahGRx4cwcsX/EUMAZp2ZJGZV/KFiQwU8wbSoiUZQNvnM+YrseeZw2WJhUM5j +eNnd5Qly/QmhupPrGuowT8fPOFnQKYZNBKHXHovKT5ccULQsK20c3Rlg56RGQlhwF0/ugpCR d9jo0zbJA6ZCJbUq0Q4cpZ9GrpZX7OaqHSmq3wiLqnBCJMJYVHMXbsuLNYcgr1Mt5qYRNav2L +vd6VCKClhvGTk0apPws2nF/zlt2Rrdd84PyptSZSyRIQ5b9c+hboM/2MQPsfudhSSO8MG3Iq 0h2XjmJLFjy0+yDe3RrpZ6GuzH8A3+InqIRcxETa+B9W7PXKMqsLqWkJwTiyBi2rV1dOxU/XF 4dVsJoipTChUneVYutGuMKjgBU2DdoLE7t4fnM1Px8TSka8LlZvkzF+GxHQat7AgFhzKBLK4G r3GBJbaFPzGYLOS5pYjEne0zchOO1GRGRpyx40fgUGtJoGoBNNgZ9/eJeLzBg0y7Z+gijLaRv Du7AdUiXuT5FJog8R7/VrnhOl4t9pLVLAwc46a6l2Nj+sAeM2G/RKlKrupL+0V8GnlWedpSM4 GDaqCbcqQasrukOWofUD2ZTH2ux5eKwsLsTau5G4NlT/N5ddwuP0kFaAdbg= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C2980834FC X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.90 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx00.schlund.de,mx01.schlund.de]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[2.25.222.94.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.93)[0.932,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.98)[0.980,0]; IP_SCORE(0.60)[ip: (0.42), ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(0.13), asn: 8560(2.45), country: DE(-0.01)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[75.192.72.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 12:18:59 -0000 To prepare an amateur TV streaming experiment, I'm currently trying to get a "video grabber" to work with my camera, which will later be replaced by a satellite receiver output. The signal is regular (composite) video. I have verified the signal to be a normal video signal with the TV card's video input in my old PC, so that works. Now my intention is to use the webcam intrastructure (webcamd, pwcview) for testing. The video grabber has the following connectors: - dual cinch L / R for audio input - yellow cinch for composite video input - 4-pin mini-DIN plug for S-video input - USB connector for digital video output - 2.5mm stereo jack for analog audio output When attached to the system (FreeBSD 12.0-p6/i386), the following entry is created: ugen2.5: at usbus2 I can then go ahead and test the two video inputs, assuming they are numbered 0 and 1: # webcamd -d ugen2.5 -i 0 -v 0 Attached to ugen2.5[0] Creating /dev/video0 ... % pwcview -d /dev/video0 Webcam set to: 320x240 (sif) at 5 fps This results in a totally distorted and blurry image (like "lost synchronisation"). However, when I wave my arm into the camera, I can see a change in the pattern. However, I must connect the camera with a cinch->S-video adapter to the S-video input to get a picture. And for the 2nd input: # webcamd -d ugen2.5 -i 0 -v 1 Attached to ugen2.5[0] Creating /dev/video1 ... % pwcview -d /dev/video1 Webcam set to: 320x240 (sif) at 5 fps In this case, I only get a black ("empty") window. No signal. But if I disconnect the video camera and re-connect it to the S-video input (with the adapter as mentioned above), I get the blurry image again. I went ahead and tried inputs 2, 3, 4, ... 10, same result. So no matter which video input I specify, only the S-video input is used. I did read "man webcamd" and "man pwcview", and I think the commands shown above should be okay. Varying webcamd's -i parameter does not help, it leads to an error message: # webcamd -d ugen2.5 -i 1 -v 0 webcamd: Cannot find USB device Sidenote: With webcamd, I got a boring 20 years old webcam working, so is _basically_ works. Question: How do I tell the video grabber to use the composite video input? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Thread-Topic: Any chance for discard support with ext2 driver ? 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I quoted in a previous post the last paragraph in http://www.meta1.org/compare.html that refers to your criteria of chosing an MTA. > I ran screaming from sendmail. If it wasn’t for postfix I would have > abandoned running a mail server, no way was I going to dive back into > sendmail. Perhaps you should consider if running a mail server is for you. sendmail is not that bad, it is well documented, it bring usefull log, it is old and it is a lot of answers to problems in internet. Indeed I would decide what piece of software to run depending on the effort of configuring it, but this criterium is less valid for such a delicate piece like a mail server continously running in a long period of time. Rodrigo From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 3 08:08:58 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B706915CB580 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 08:08:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (net-2-44-121-52.cust.vodafonedsl.it [2.44.121.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45FD68ECED for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 08:08:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from guardian.ventu (88-147-119-21.v4.ngi.it [88.147.119.21] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x637viYt002460 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 09:57:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host 88-147-119-21.v4.ngi.it [88.147.119.21] (may be forged) claimed to be guardian.ventu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Andrea Venturoli Subject: ZFS filesystem full and logs Message-ID: <9a4367f7-d0b5-e1df-0569-b22a9d182a63@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 09:57:43 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.83 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 45FD68ECED X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it designates 2.44.121.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.91 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:2.44.121.52]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mailserver.netfence.it]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.92)[-0.923,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[netfence.it]; IP_SCORE(-1.67)[ip: (-4.92), ipnet: 2.44.0.0/16(-2.46), asn: 30722(-1.03), country: IT(0.03)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:30722, ipnet:2.44.0.0/16, country:IT]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 08:08:58 -0000 Hello. When using UFS, if a filesystem gets full, this is logged via syslogd. Can the same happen somehow for ZFS? If it's possible, how is it done? Thanks Andrea Venturoli From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 3 09:05:34 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D7A15CCF4E; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 09:05:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd43.google.com (mail-io1-xd43.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d43]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6981869E98; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 09:05:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd43.google.com with SMTP id u13so3073500iop.0; Wed, 03 Jul 2019 02:05:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=oYV9irRwxmKAIylx4EvJWUJjALFORwe/s/SPbFyKwCk=; b=J1+qSzdFBFp7NOdXv84lUu6gVTVjYT1Q04WWQ6QdEgHO0/osX8LZykygFerVzKnKvq wmC+Rz2QJhgp6tqto1MJsk9o2qYsENTVEaNBJ9sRGvq3+ziQYz9Olz4tCWr4+rLrF3Ax BemcmJL6Ks4UHRoVA35Ej9/XvlbIAUPG6CH3+8PsZpqzXyEfnE0EZYt8o+ev2+bassZy 2y7RSToO7O4v6TmCBClgCCBpffXlvXYz6qwTvngIGcqwK1eMzu7Mi2GpdTdc3uhTzcNp 9eS9LX1IU5K320NryAeJ8tvUT0QywdbIadrnLC4iKZJzpI6Vnu85lmF5gjockBlDppsN w+ng== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=oYV9irRwxmKAIylx4EvJWUJjALFORwe/s/SPbFyKwCk=; b=T/IkDyVb9xPx6iWhLRNtojehsgrMOakUVvPTz0kFkIbOVD0aHYRCHLy/X160ZwX9zy 18pogLwiiD350uGMjeBFN2JLYFWPPJ0An2uDQI87EAPnRHV2F1u+SB4QtNWl0nU89/af QsY5NVSKt76HtqrMoyr1w1Y2yNj23l1YdMQugY5I9hrb2yVWeI9ULe4Xi3leiiWeqFPU ck7vGnqO5gsKAVgO/NG4+iGj7GWxBgxN8VEeXtieBdnrSEwUud22mjqQft6bh8KEEFEx U8naijXLBnBPmt11s/5VongoWc1zr433gyBrUVeOenO7xdNMm6In2/iB9x4YXDhfUXZm mXqw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUsr2fWE8EMpmb3iP6X9ZTTKy3tYHrtOxmLhqfn9HDBcNiOn93C PZu1E8Vd1t1xre19t7K0XGRaPLQ/DggM9f+jO0vcmbxi X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqy2y7gSYoZ4cFbdpQ28vA/4w/T3uIggJujGxNH7tN7Hjn4H4m7Em+6F8JQCmuRY1KtXOSyujaRPGPv0MRJFkvo= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:9d58:: with SMTP id k24mr12033625iok.116.1562144732490; Wed, 03 Jul 2019 02:05:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a02:81c6:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 02:05:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20190618235535.GY32970@gmail.com> From: grarpamp Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 05:05:31 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CVE-2019-5599 SACK Slowness (FreeBSD 12 using the RACK TCP Stack) To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, jtl@freebsd.org, freebsd-core@freebsd.org, info@freebsdfoundation.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6981869E98 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=J1+qSzdF; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grarpamp@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d43 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grarpamp@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.57 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.4.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-0.79)[ip: (1.60), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.15), asn: 15169(-2.36), country: US(-0.06)]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.77)[-0.771,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 09:05:34 -0000 On 6/24/19, grarpamp wrote: > On 6/18/19, grarpamp wrote: >> https://github.com/Netflix/security-bulletins/blob/master/advisories/third-party/2019-001.md >> As it is not in the current .md, when was the issue >> discovered by Netflix / Looney? > > One week has gone by, so asking again... This is now into *third* week and *third* time this very simple questions has been asked pursuant "actual discussion around disclosure policies", from two public and at least one private party, with zero response. Optics fogging up. Escalating as such. Thanks. > When was the issue discovered by Netflix / Looney? > When did FreeBSD become aware of the issue? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 3 10:36:11 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C746B15CF81A for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 10:36:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D4FB6E024 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 10:36:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: matthew/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 23F66737E for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 10:36:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.212.184.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D0E09C222 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 10:36:09 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/D0E09C222; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: ZFS filesystem full and logs To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <9a4367f7-d0b5-e1df-0569-b22a9d182a63@netfence.it> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 11:36:08 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9a4367f7-d0b5-e1df-0569-b22a9d182a63@netfence.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6D4FB6E024 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[FreeBSD.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.995,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:96.47.64.0/20, country:US] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 10:36:11 -0000 On 03/07/2019 08:57, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > When using UFS, if a filesystem gets full, this is logged via syslogd. > Can the same happen somehow for ZFS? > If it's possible, how is it done? ZFS doesn't fill up file systems: it fills up pools[*]. If your entire zpool is full up, then you'll know about it PDQ, as your machine will be a very unhappy bunny. However, because your zpool will (in general) have access to all of the available space on your hard drives, you're going to see a lot fewer problems with space usage than if you're dealing with a bunch of UFSes each fixed at just a fraction of your total available space. If the entire pool does fill up, you won't be able to write anything via syslog(8) anyhow. Keeping on top of disk usage is a standard task for system monitoring (nagios, icinga, many more) and most people would also make graphs showing usage over time (grafana, cacti, various others). If that's a bit too heavy-weight for you, then you could write a small periodic script to run every day and alert you in the daily e-mails if disk usage has hit whatever predefined limits you choose. Cheers, Matthew [*] Unless you set size limits on specific ZFSes... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 3 11:01:05 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3FE15CFFC6 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 11:01:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.164]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06DE66E9AD for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 11:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.34.120] (helo=smtp12.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hid0Q-0007GV-Kj; Wed, 03 Jul 2019 13:00:54 +0200 Received: from 84-25-247-31.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl ([84.25.247.31] helo=ra.boosten.org) by smtp12.mnd.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hid0Q-0003se-Fg; Wed, 03 Jul 2019 13:00:54 +0200 Received: from amon.boosten.org (Amon.boosten.org [192.168.13.105]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ra.boosten.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0F564343345E; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 13:00:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter Boosten Message-Id: <4F3BEEF7-351F-42F2-B0A3-3EFE5F4C2E69@boosten.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: ZFS filesystem full and logs Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 13:00:53 +0200 In-Reply-To: <9a4367f7-d0b5-e1df-0569-b22a9d182a63@netfence.it> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org To: Andrea Venturoli References: <9a4367f7-d0b5-e1df-0569-b22a9d182a63@netfence.it> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-SourceIP: 84.25.247.31 X-Ziggo-spambar: / X-Ziggo-spamscore: 0.0 X-Ziggo-spamreport: CMAE Analysis: v=2.3 cv=e654tph/ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=JWBJsaPp29SgP5DpYRBqZw==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=0o9FgrsRnhwA:10 a=e_gBpe2vSlpVDqdae2UA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=YnpvvocIHIWI-nd1:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 06DE66E9AD X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.82 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[boosten.org:s=ra]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:212.54.32.0/19]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[boosten.org:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[boosten.org,quarantine]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[boosten.dyndns.org]; IP_SCORE(-1.23)[ipnet: 212.54.32.0/20(-3.94), asn: 33915(-2.21), country: NL(0.01)]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.980,0]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[31.247.25.84.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[164.34.54.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:33915, ipnet:212.54.32.0/20, country:NL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 11:01:05 -0000 > Op 3 jul. 2019, om 09:57 heeft Andrea Venturoli het = volgende geschreven: >=20 > Hello. >=20 > When using UFS, if a filesystem gets full, this is logged via syslogd. > Can the same happen somehow for ZFS? > If it's possible, how is it done? >=20 Put this in your /etc/periodic.conf and you=E2=80=99ll get a status = daily: daily_status_zfs_enable=3D=E2=80=9CYES" =20 daily_status_zfs_zpool_list_enable=3D"YES=E2=80=9D =20 Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 3 11:35:07 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0D015D0B2C for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 11:35:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markand@malikania.fr) Received: from smtp.smtpout.orange.fr (smtp05.smtpout.orange.fr [80.12.242.127]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 373F36FA25 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 11:35:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markand@malikania.fr) Received: from postfix.malikania.fr ([5.135.187.121]) by mwinf5d62 with ME id YBb2200062dbEiD03Bb2Tx; Wed, 03 Jul 2019 13:35:03 +0200 X-ME-Helo: postfix.malikania.fr X-ME-Auth: ZGVtZWxpZXIuZGF2aWRAb3JhbmdlLmZy X-ME-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 13:35:03 +0200 X-ME-IP: 5.135.187.121 Received: from [167.3.108.158] (unknown [77.159.242.250]) by postfix.malikania.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5E0C4227381 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 13:34:59 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: David Demelier Subject: extremely slow disk I/O after updating to 12.0 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 13:34:58 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: fr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 373F36FA25 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.67 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.94)[0.937,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[malikania.fr]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[127.242.12.80.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.993,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[malikania.fr]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[127.242.12.80.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3215, ipnet:80.12.240.0/20, country:FR]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.85)[ip: (1.59), ipnet: 80.12.240.0/20(1.43), asn: 3215(1.23), country: FR(-0.01)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 11:35:07 -0000 Hello folks, I've upgraded one of my servers to 12.0-RELEASE. Now I'm having extremely slow performances regarding I/O writes. I'm doing a cron job which create some tar archive during the night, usually it takes something like 2-3 hours to complete. Now it does not finish 12 hours after and I feel the server is much slower in a global manner. For example when editing files with vim. The bsdtar process stays a lot in the state zio->io_cv as top indicates but is not locked as the archive continues to grow (at ridiculous speed though, something like 4Mo per hour !) Procstat on the process shows this: # procstat -kk 46385 PID TID COMM TDNAME KSTACK 46385 101443 bsdtar - mi_switch+0xe1 sleepq_wait+0x2c _cv_wait+0x152 zio_wait+0x9b dmu_buf_hold_array_by_dnode+0x2ec dmu_read_uio_dnode+0x37 dmu_read_uio_dbuf+0x3b zfs_freebsd_read+0x2d3 VOP_READ_APV+0x78 vn_read+0x195 vn_io_fault_doio+0x43 vn_io_fault1+0x161 vn_io_fault+0x195 dofileread+0x95 sys_read+0xc3 amd64_syscall+0x369 fast_syscall_common+0x101 zpool status indicates that the blocksize is erroneous and that I may expect performance degradation. But that much is impressive. Can someone confirm? # zpool status pool: tank state: ONLINE status: One or more devices are configured to use a non-native block size. Expect reduced performance. action: Replace affected devices with devices that support the configured block size, or migrate data to a properly configured pool. scan: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM tank ONLINE 0 0 0 raidz1-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 gpt/zfs0 ONLINE 0 0 0 block size: 512B configured, 4096B native gpt/zfs1 ONLINE 0 0 0 block size: 512B configured, 4096B native errors: No known data errors According to some googling, I must update those pools to change the block size. However there are no many articles on that so I'm a bit afraid of doing this. The zfs0 and zfs1 are in raidz. Any help is very welcome. 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(rs%bytecamp.net@80.84.212.123) by mail.bytecamp.net with ESMTPS (AES128-SHA encrypted); 3 Jul 2019 13:43:53 +0200 Subject: Re: extremely slow disk I/O after updating to 12.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Robert Schulze Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=rs@bytecamp.net; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQENBFRpvvcBCACiXR5ENQUFzwmQCyyQmpG3ppKXS5GamZHZSl6dr+yeTRHW5XJ+46ltis64 U/i1V0DhBD9kHjAvwZvWO+BXVj1kf1GFf286WoUnFvRK6oLRtaqdZDDu+AA3EcvvryRzlkE9 uSBXkg+4ObhxhaLhjWowDBhmAyi3QOAtPpw9tme4c0ktoKMMlkryTAwPXw7sJi7TGJXv088T z2C2eMBKNKwyCWmGsP+0UoZRxO0A7qCU1kIGvsf7N9sYFD3OI9NaYZHvN8g7x7NTInz77a2o /u1EFYcQ6UbphP8AhUX9phvQLsZr0w0eCFQ+kJqtHWdesRckQcpDo8eXDQOvZH5vxErzABEB AAG0IFJvYmVydCBTY2h1bHplIDxyc0BieXRlY2FtcC5uZXQ+iQE+BBMBAgAoBQJUab73Ahsj BQkJZgGABgsJCAcDAgYVCAIJCgsEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRDDYTHqanMMhMpTB/4xAqtfANpm GYyHTt3z2250jx62GwDfK569dASQpiz1U7AwVvZDfsQSMpsIT/GkaDB5meNZVLYIvfpk1jmi CZ11b0WdERShxQhQsZCBWSIJG4jDfbbmhr212hi1rYzBisLb4+sU/V2Gdd42VUitkPItiv8X ImStSrzWiUAOmeXMEgJA6728sh692oYjsVQVXxRMwcAJSwwnlo32HRuAWK037oJ/04UoZijC chjdp8RIU2ItEjjAWQRcS+KHtj0cJurb+PE6WA8vDU18eLNVUcFRwJToa3dlSLN39R7icGuc SlN+HlCrqgqoHVMjX043wPjf3XEXtLcJTFyYcptyWjCuuQENBFRpvvcBCADhu4eObbfXhhzG 4/onzvW+g5t5k7XJMsLjGl7FAmn26CpSMTkHZCFmUR74Bz7Pr/l4RTRvFt1vnHWX/cKhcwnR g3ZId2a+xljT4pe77gV7+VQwdw5T80aMGe+ASeS0VqdzIyauZl0tzzVqh0/zcNLNE2KTo3el CENru7bOAAJ9nJ1PEVBgpE5P789duErp71HrDGG6SFdk+pFGKK41gJWktt0Tf13gikEiwsL/ xhYzuPqHV3Rj3vsIewbMLkC4Ekrsjqr4gKpTlrLhv9xOG/+SFIpdWy4pKY1dCLsR6lZXtbzE 31jXxuKGRjNlhm9eDfRfrN6LfKq2Z4Y+OZBUMWrbABEBAAGJASUEGAECAA8FAlRpvvcCGwwF CQlmAYAACgkQw2Ex6mpzDIQ0sgf/UI9D2tti9zGNZMgr9dLuMrdi+/olRo0C/PQIsw4NaBCh seXjQgTOdg99WvynZrvtt2eE1YCCnUORMyk1h8dtR3ZmFTMy9DAf7hiY99/avadM+rzoczEV WpZND88rD8JZ1WQKZtTDzH+c2wklkARo4XIu3KDqLEVHhdysN1vACEdHmi1FB3WNSLHF05Mf BUTOsyF3dEP625d03KK/91Sp31F0GJjlSTANxIM05bTcJZsG18auIIevn/19ZXSRdFAC7vy9 ugBfv0HVEC1QsarOCWpqJxQOutZI8I/AywGJetGVkTpKkTRnrIfzoBaFEJFGW96gyLSsWuZs B1zN8/OwHQ== Organization: bytecamp GmbH Message-ID: <5adc029e-198c-5189-cd6c-4fff1e4980f0@bytecamp.net> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 13:43:53 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4977C6FEAA X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bytecamp.net header.s=20140709 header.b=RomN/q09; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rs@bytecamp.net designates 212.204.60.217 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rs@bytecamp.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.90 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.91)[-0.909,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bytecamp.net:s=20140709]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:212.204.60.0/24]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[bytecamp.net.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bytecamp.net:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail2.bytecamp.net]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bytecamp.net]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.38)[-0.382,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: DE(-0.01)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[217.60.204.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12693, ipnet:212.204.32.0/19, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 11:44:03 -0000 Hi, Am 03.07.19 um 13:34 schrieb David Demelier: > Hello folks, > > I've upgraded one of my servers to 12.0-RELEASE. Now I'm having > extremely slow performances regarding I/O writes. we have seen a drop in I/O performance beginning with 11.2-RELEASE. Try disabling scattered ABD: sysctl vfs.zfs.abd_scatter_enabled=0 regards, Robert Schulze From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 3 13:43:06 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FDDB15D442C for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 13:43:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) Received: from enterprise.ximalas.info (enterprise.ximalas.info [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1::8]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "ximalas.info", Issuer "Hostmaster ximalas.info" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7BA873C9D for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 13:43:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) Received: from enterprise.ximalas.info (Ximalas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by enterprise.ximalas.info (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x63Dgwc8049716 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 15:42:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ximalas.info; s=default; t=1562161378; bh=8W3iWYICafpYzJ0VqAYSDRjdeaduAoTZEehtBhJsZZA=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=oUX4fc6JgGvKLW9J7yYXCIpsaah9QhM1WTY43i6DZ3AD87R8X07jwIWBIth1lfx+T STFCzFDk/OIk/JhePH/1/2b7js17q3PrK/y5LS5WSACv2sCIEZzUTCXBrWiE8pP52y Qnaig04qtvBDLw3mTq5fMMYF2wdhKs24xHQ9cYHbQ6mTHrPCvSKxO6dT7v99c+WZcL WFYd1f1geAShl+KN0oP+fWsfue1+r+3IvZ7fDzc+eijYGJd7bqDtSrCkhAgptEhtj6 7gYSpo3S09MYrSQj3x71QK998Kex5VAVukHNuo79d/GiFvFpstiBNuHCsH/1LqgUda FHhRy1df0A0TA== Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by enterprise.ximalas.info (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x63DgwEH049713 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 15:42:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) X-Authentication-Warning: enterprise.ximalas.info: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 15:42:58 +0200 (CEST) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Trond_Endrest=C3=B8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@ximalas.info To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: extremely slow disk I/O after updating to 12.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) OpenPGP: url=http://ximalas.info/about/tronds-openpgp-public-key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on enterprise.ximalas.info X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 13:43:06 -0000 On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 13:34+0200, David Demelier wrote: > zpool status indicates that the blocksize is erroneous and that I may expect > performance degradation. But that much is impressive. Can someone confirm? > > # zpool status > pool: tank > state: ONLINE > status: One or more devices are configured to use a non-native block size. > Expect reduced performance. > action: Replace affected devices with devices that support the > configured block size, or migrate data to a properly configured > pool. > scan: none requested > config: > > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > tank ONLINE 0 0 0 > raidz1-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 > gpt/zfs0 ONLINE 0 0 0 block size: 512B configured, 4096B native > gpt/zfs1 ONLINE 0 0 0 block size: 512B configured, 4096B native > > errors: No known data errors > > > > According to some googling, I must update those pools to change the block > size. However there are no many articles on that so I'm a bit afraid of doing > this. The zfs0 and zfs1 are in raidz. > > Any help is very welcome. If you want to change the block size, I'm afraid you must backup your data somewhere, destroy tank, and recreate it after you set: sysctl vfs.zfs.min_auto_ashift=12 If you only deal with 4Kn drives, then I suggest you edit /etc/sysctl.conf, adding for future use: vfs.zfs.min_auto_ashift=12 Options range from replicating the data on another computer, simply as a file (do this twice while saving to a different filename each time), or receiving and unpacking the zstream on another computer's zpool, or migrating to a new pair of disks. Here's my outline for doing the ZFS transfer: == Prepare computer B for receiving the zstream: nc -l 1234 > some.file.zfs Or, still on computer B: nc -l 1234 | zfs recv -Fduv somepool # Optional, to be done after the transfer: zfs destroy -Rv somepool@transfer In the latter case, existing filesystems beneath the toplevel filesystem in somepool will be replaced by whatever is in the zstream. Filesystems with "pathnames" unique to somepool will be unaffected. On computer A: zfs snap tank@transfer zfs send -RLev tank@transfer | nc -N computer.B.some.domain 1234 zfs destroy -Rv tank@transfer == Feel free to replace nc (netcat) with ssh or something else. == zfs send and zfs recv can be piped together if the pools are connected to the same computer: zfs send -RLev tank@transfer | zfs recv -Fduv newtank newtank can be renamed simply by exporting it and importing it using its current and desired name: zpool export newtank zpool import -N newtank tank Note, this must be done while running FreeBSD from some other media, such as a DVD or a memstick. Take care to ensure the bootfs pool property is pointing to the correct BE before rebooting. == To transfer the data back to the new tank pool: Prepare computer A for receiving the zstream: nc -l 1234 | zfs recv -Fduv tank # Do these two commands after the transfer: zfs destroy -Rv tank@transfer zpool set bootfs=tank/the/correct/boot/environment tank On computer B: nc -N computer.A.some.domain 1234 < some.file.zfs Or, still on computer B: zfs snap somepool@transfer # If you removed the previous @transfer snapshot zfs send -RLev somepool@transfer | nc -N computer.A.some.domain 1234 -- Trond. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 3 13:52:01 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAAAB15D477B for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 13:52:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karl@denninger.net) Received: from colo1.denninger.net (colo1.denninger.net [104.236.120.189]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D522746A8 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 13:52:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karl@denninger.net) Received: from denninger.net (ip68-1-57-197.pn.at.cox.net [68.1.57.197]) by colo1.denninger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373AC211090 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 09:51:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.10.20] (D10.Denninger.Net [192.168.10.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by denninger.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C3BBA16ED7A for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 08:51:23 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: extremely slow disk I/O after updating to 12.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Karl Denninger Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=karl@denninger.net; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFIX1zsBEADRcJfsQUl9oFeoMfLPJ1kql+3sIaYx0MfJAUhV9LnbWxr0fsWCskM1O4cV tHm5dqPkuPM4Ztc0jLotD1i9ubWvCHOlkLGxFOL+pFbjA+XZ7VKsC/xWmhMwJ3cM8HavK2OV SzEWQ/AEYtMi04IzGSwsxh/5/5R0mPHrsIomV5SbuiI0vjLuDj7fo6146AABI1ULzge4hBYW i/SHrqUrLORmUNBs6bxek79/B0Dzk5cIktD3LOfbT9EAa5J/osVkstMBhToJgQttaMIGv8SG CzpR/HwEokE+7DP+k2mLHnLj6H3kfugOF9pJH8Za4yFmw//s9cPXV8WwtZ2SKfVzn1unpKqf wmJ1PwJoom/d4fGvQDkgkGKRa6RGC6tPmXnqnx+YX4iCOdFfbP8L9rmk2sewDDVzHDU3I3ZZ 8hFIjMYM/QXXYszRatK0LCV0QPZuF7LCf4uQVKw1/oyJInsnH7+6a3c0h21x+CmSja9QJ+y0 yzgEN/nM89d6YTakfR+1xkYgodVmMy/bS8kmXbUUZG/CyeqCqc95RUySjKT2ECrf9GhhoQkl +D8n2MsrAUSMGB4GQSN+TIq9OBTpNuvATGSRuF9wnQcs1iSry+JNCpfRTyWp83uCNApe6oHU EET4Et6KDO3AvjvBMAX0TInTRGW2SQlJMuFKpc7Dg7tHK8zzqQARAQABtCNLYXJsIERlbm5p bmdlciA8a2FybEBkZW5uaW5nZXIubmV0PokCPAQTAQIAJgUCUhfXOwIbIwUJCWYBgAYLCQgH AwIEFQIIAwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEG6/sivc5s0PLxQP/i6x/QFx9G4Cw7C+LthhLXIm7NSH AtNbz2UjySEx2qkoQQjtsK6mcpEEaky4ky6t8gz0/SifIfJmSmyAx0UhUQ0WBv1vAXwtNrQQ jJd9Bj6l4c2083WaXyHPjt2u2Na6YFowyb4SaQb83hu/Zs25vkPQYJVVE0JX409MFVPUa6E3 zFbd1OTr3T4yNUy4gNeQZfzDqDS8slbIks2sXeoJrZ6qqXVI0ionoivOlaN4T6Q0UYyXtigj dQvvhMt0aNowKFjRqrmSDRpdz+o6yg7Mp7qEZ1V6EZk8KqQTH6htpCTQ8i79ttK4LG6bstSF Re6Fwq52nbrcANrcdmtZXqjo+SGbUqJ8b1ggrxAsJ5MEhRh2peKrCgI/TjQo+ZxfnqEoR4AI 46Cyiz+/lcVvlvmf2iPifS3EEdaH3Itfwt7MxFm6mQORYs6skHDw3tOYB2/AdCW6eRVYs2hB RMAG4uwApZfZDKgRoE95PJmQjeTBiGmRPcsQZtNESe7I7EjHtCDLwtJqvD4HkDDQwpzreT6W XkyIJ7ns7zDfA1E+AQhFR6rsTFGgQZRZKsVeov3SbhYKkCnVDCvb/PKQCAGkSZM9SvYG5Yax 8CMry3AefKktf9fqBFg8pWqtVxDwJr56dhi0GHXRu3jVI995rMGo1fLUG5fSxiZ8L5sAtokh 9WFmQpyl Message-ID: <9d31fb68-df3e-76d3-195d-0da9749b0b1d@denninger.net> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 08:51:23 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-512; boundary="------------ms040305020201000706000708" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D522746A8 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.988,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 13:52:01 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040305020201000706000708 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 7/3/2019 08:42, Trond Endrest=C3=B8l wrote: > On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 13:34+0200, David Demelier wrote: > >> zpool status indicates that the blocksize is erroneous and that I may = expect >> performance degradation. But that much is impressive. Can someone conf= irm? >> >> # zpool status >> pool: tank >> state: ONLINE >> status: One or more devices are configured to use a non-native block s= ize. >> Expect reduced performance. >> action: Replace affected devices with devices that support the >> configured block size, or migrate data to a properly configure= d >> pool. >> scan: none requested >> config: >> >> NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM >> tank ONLINE 0 0 0 >> raidz1-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 >> gpt/zfs0 ONLINE 0 0 0 block size: 512B con= figured, 4096B native >> gpt/zfs1 ONLINE 0 0 0 block size: 512B con= figured, 4096B native >> >> errors: No known data errors >> >> >> >> According to some googling, I must update those pools to change the bl= ock >> size. However there are no many articles on that so I'm a bit afraid o= f doing >> this. The zfs0 and zfs1 are in raidz. >> >> Any help is very welcome. ashift=3D9 on a 4k native block device is going to do horrible things to performance.=C2=A0 There's no way to change it on an existing pool, as th= e other respondent noted; you will have to back up the data on the pool, destroy the pool and then re-create it. Was this pool originally created with 512b disks and then the drives were swapped out with a "replace" at some point for advanced-format units= ? The only downside to using ashift=3D12 on a 512b drive is a modest amount= of lost space in overhead, but given the risk that somewhere down the line you will swap the disk for a 4k one, and if you do you get forced to recreate the pool to get rid of the performance problem, I've had ashift=3D12 set as a default for a very long time. --=20 Karl Denninger karl@denninger.net /The Market Ticker/ /[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/ --------------ms040305020201000706000708 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgMFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCC DdgwggagMIIEiKADAgECAhMA5EiKghDOXrvfxYxjITXYDdhIMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAMIGL MQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzEQMA4GA1UECAwHRmxvcmlkYTESMBAGA1UEBwwJTmljZXZpbGxlMRkw FwYDVQQKDBBDdWRhIFN5c3RlbXMgTExDMRgwFgYDVQQLDA9DdWRhIFN5c3RlbXMgQ0ExITAf 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(envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (net-2-44-121-52.cust.vodafonedsl.it [2.44.121.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A70B748B2; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 13:54:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from guardian.ventu (88-147-119-21.v4.ngi.it [88.147.119.21] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x63Ds19s039066 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 3 Jul 2019 15:54:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host 88-147-119-21.v4.ngi.it [88.147.119.21] (may be forged) claimed to be guardian.ventu Subject: Re: ZFS filesystem full and logs To: Peter Boosten Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, matthew@FreeBSD.org References: <9a4367f7-d0b5-e1df-0569-b22a9d182a63@netfence.it> <4F3BEEF7-351F-42F2-B0A3-3EFE5F4C2E69@boosten.org> From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: <5ec8ef7d-b2bc-465b-cb92-8e28c4449340@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 15:54:00 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4F3BEEF7-351F-42F2-B0A3-3EFE5F4C2E69@boosten.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.83 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 8A70B748B2 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it designates 2.44.121.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.81 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:2.44.121.52]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[netfence.it]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mailserver.netfence.it]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.78)[-0.777,0]; IP_SCORE(-1.72)[ip: (-5.03), ipnet: 2.44.0.0/16(-2.52), asn: 30722(-1.07), country: IT(0.03)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:30722, ipnet:2.44.0.0/16, country:IT]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 13:54:16 -0000 On 2019-07-03 13:00, Peter Boosten wrote: > > >> Op 3 jul. 2019, om 09:57 heeft Andrea Venturoli > > het volgende geschreven: >> >> Hello. >> >> When using UFS, if a filesystem gets full, this is logged via syslogd. >> Can the same happen somehow for ZFS? >> If it's possible, how is it done? >> > > > Put this in your /etc/periodic.conf and you’ll get a status daily: > > daily_status_zfs_enable=“YES" > daily_status_zfs_zpool_list_enable="YES” > > Peter > Thanks Peter and thanks Matthew. I know the thing about pools, etc... I already have these in daily status and I already monitor with Cacti and Nagios. It would have been useful to *also* get this in the logs (partly because swatch would get it faster than the others). Ok, it can't be done. bye & Thanks anyway Andrea Venturoli From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 3 14:31:52 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68A315D5619 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 14:31:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markand@malikania.fr) Received: from smtp.smtpout.orange.fr (smtp12.smtpout.orange.fr [80.12.242.134]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77DBE75FF0 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 14:31:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markand@malikania.fr) Received: from postfix.malikania.fr ([5.135.187.121]) by mwinf5d35 with ME id YEXh2000N2dbEiD03EXh5b; Wed, 03 Jul 2019 16:31:42 +0200 X-ME-Helo: postfix.malikania.fr X-ME-Auth: ZGVtZWxpZXIuZGF2aWRAb3JhbmdlLmZy X-ME-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 16:31:42 +0200 X-ME-IP: 5.135.187.121 Received: from [167.3.108.158] (unknown [77.159.242.250]) by postfix.malikania.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 784CC1874 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 16:31:41 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: extremely slow disk I/O after updating to 12.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <9d31fb68-df3e-76d3-195d-0da9749b0b1d@denninger.net> From: David Demelier Message-ID: <2b3b70f4-630f-b2bf-99fa-ab237b0610d3@malikania.fr> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 16:31:40 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9d31fb68-df3e-76d3-195d-0da9749b0b1d@denninger.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: fr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 77DBE75FF0 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.97 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.95)[0.949,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: malikania.fr]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[134.242.12.80.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.993,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[malikania.fr]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3215, ipnet:80.12.240.0/20, country:FR]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(1.14)[ip: (3.04), ipnet: 80.12.240.0/20(1.43), asn: 3215(1.23), country: FR(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 14:31:52 -0000 Le 03/07/2019 à 15:51, Karl Denninger a écrit : > On 7/3/2019 08:42, Trond Endrestøl wrote: >> On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 13:34+0200, David Demelier wrote: >> >>> zpool status indicates that the blocksize is erroneous and that I may expect >>> performance degradation. But that much is impressive. Can someone confirm? >>> >>> # zpool status >>> pool: tank >>> state: ONLINE >>> status: One or more devices are configured to use a non-native block size. >>> Expect reduced performance. >>> action: Replace affected devices with devices that support the >>> configured block size, or migrate data to a properly configured >>> pool. >>> scan: none requested >>> config: >>> >>> NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM >>> tank ONLINE 0 0 0 >>> raidz1-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 >>> gpt/zfs0 ONLINE 0 0 0 block size: 512B configured, 4096B native >>> gpt/zfs1 ONLINE 0 0 0 block size: 512B configured, 4096B native >>> >>> errors: No known data errors >>> >>> >>> >>> According to some googling, I must update those pools to change the block >>> size. However there are no many articles on that so I'm a bit afraid of doing >>> this. The zfs0 and zfs1 are in raidz. >>> >>> Any help is very welcome. > > ashift=9 on a 4k native block device is going to do horrible things to > performance.  There's no way to change it on an existing pool, as the > other respondent noted; you will have to back up the data on the pool, > destroy the pool and then re-create it. > > Was this pool originally created with 512b disks and then the drives > were swapped out with a "replace" at some point for advanced-format units? Thanks for your answers. No, it was created almost a decade ago back in 2012 using FreeBSD 9. I don't have the history for these commands but it was something like zpool create tank raidz /dev/gpt/zfs0 /dev/gpt/zfs1 Regards, -- David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 3 14:33:24 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A710615D5802 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 14:33:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markand@malikania.fr) Received: from smtp.smtpout.orange.fr (smtp12.smtpout.orange.fr [80.12.242.134]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7A3D760EE for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 14:33:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markand@malikania.fr) Received: from postfix.malikania.fr ([5.135.187.121]) by mwinf5d35 with ME id YEZM2000u2dbEiD03EZNRX; Wed, 03 Jul 2019 16:33:22 +0200 X-ME-Helo: postfix.malikania.fr X-ME-Auth: ZGVtZWxpZXIuZGF2aWRAb3JhbmdlLmZy X-ME-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 16:33:22 +0200 X-ME-IP: 5.135.187.121 Received: from [167.3.108.158] (unknown [77.159.242.250]) by postfix.malikania.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8B611189C for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 16:33:21 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: extremely slow disk I/O after updating to 12.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5adc029e-198c-5189-cd6c-4fff1e4980f0@bytecamp.net> From: David Demelier Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 16:33:21 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5adc029e-198c-5189-cd6c-4fff1e4980f0@bytecamp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: fr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A7A3D760EE X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.96 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.95)[0.946,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: malikania.fr]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[134.242.12.80.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.993,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[malikania.fr]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3215, ipnet:80.12.240.0/20, country:FR]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(1.13)[ip: (2.98), ipnet: 80.12.240.0/20(1.42), asn: 3215(1.23), country: FR(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 14:33:24 -0000 Le 03/07/2019 à 13:43, Robert Schulze a écrit : > we have seen a drop in I/O performance beginning with 11.2-RELEASE. > Try disabling scattered ABD: > > sysctl vfs.zfs.abd_scatter_enabled=0 Thanks for the answer. I'm trying this. Is this tunable available at boot (i.e. /boot/loader.conf) or do you put it in /etc/sysctl.conf? 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But one? problem I run into is that > FreeBSD does not yet support the discard mount option for ext2/3/4 > filesystems, affecting operational smoothness and efficiency. > > > Is there any chance that the FreeBSD kernel will sometime in the near > future support discard for ext2fs ? > > > > I just read the man page that had discard mount. That is a Linuxism. I think you are asking about TRIM support. As both native file systems already have TRIM support and the ext driver is ext2 and is mostly just used to move files from/to Linux, I have not seen any plans to add any of the ext4 features to the base OS. Unless you require the ability to read the file system from both Linux and FreeBSD, ext2 is a rather dated file system and should not be used in FreeBSD. Are there any plans to implement ext4 in FreeBSD? Would there be license issues (GPL2/GPL3)? Walter -- The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. -- Justice Louis D. Brandeis From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 3 15:12:03 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E1B15D6E39 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 15:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09FDF77BDB for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 15:12:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: sendmail Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 09:11:53 -0600 References: <20190630092535.7913d305.freebsd@edvax.de> <957EE871-6906-4424-8895-826B517AF581@kreme.com> To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3564) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 09FDF77BDB X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.12 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.62)[-0.622,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.971,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.27)[ip: (-0.93), ipnet: 65.112.0.0/12(-0.32), asn: 209(-0.03), country: US(-0.06)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.covisp.net]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.85)[-0.848,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 15:12:03 -0000 On 3 Jul 2019, at 00:47, Roderick wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jul 2019, @lbutlr wrote: >> I ran screaming from sendmail. If it wasn=E2=80=99t for postfix I = would have >> abandoned running a mail server, no way was I going to dive back into >> sendmail. >=20 > Perhaps you should consider if running a mail server is for you. Oh sure, now you tell me. It=E2=80=99s a bit late, being well over 20 = years in. But seriously, just because someone doesn=E2=80=99t use the tool you = like doesn=E2=80=99t mean their choice is inferior. A whole hell of a = lot of servers use postfix, and you are not qualified to denigrate = people who make that choice just because it isn=E2=80=99t the choice you = like. You like opaque configuration files that punish the admin, fine, you be = you. Don=E2=80=99t tell me I should be like you though. Hm.. I should update that to over 25 years. Sigh. > sendmail is not that bad I disagree. I *hated* sendmail, and most especially trying to parse the = documentation and configurations. Maybe the docs have gotten better, but = the configuration itself is still opaque to the point of making perl = look human-readable and kid-friendly. /etc/mail/freebsd.cf > R<$+> <$*> <$- $-> <$*> $: <$(access $4:$1 $: ? $)> <$1> <$2> = <$3 $4> <$5> > R <$+> <$*> <+ $-> <$*> $: <$(access $1 $: ? $)> <$1> <$2> <+ = $3> <$4> > R <$+ + $* @> <$*> <$- $-> <$*> > $: <$(access $5:$1+*@ $: ? $)> <$1+$2@> <$3> = <$4 $5> <$6> Yep, that=E2=80=99s about what I remember. No thanks. 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No thanks. You should not read that file. :-) No, seriously: You typically don't deal with cf files anymore, you use the more human-friendly mc files and leave the rest to m4, conveniently hidden in the "make cf", "make install" and associated commands. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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If your entire > zpool is full up, then you'll know about it PDQ, as your machine will be > a very unhappy bunny. [...] File systems can have quotas, which one can bump into even when there's plenty of room in the underlying pool. Systems can have more than one pool; there might be plenty of room in one pool (e.g. zroot) while another pool (e.g. zslow) fills up. g. 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Yes, it was a little provocative, but never denigration. So an exageration as when you said: postfix is the only choice. Till now I ask me, how to chose the right MTA. Rod. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 3 16:36:36 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7FA715D94B6 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 16:36:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 231F3834A9 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 16:36:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622E371805B for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 11:36:34 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: sendmail To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190630092535.7913d305.freebsd@edvax.de> <957EE871-6906-4424-8895-826B517AF581@kreme.com> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 11:36:34 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 231F3834A9 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=fail reason="" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.36 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.90)[-0.903,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.05)[0.049,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.06)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.41)[0.411,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[kicp.uchicago.edu]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 16:36:36 -0000 On 2019-07-03 11:19, Roderick wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Jul 2019, @lbutlr wrote: > >> and you are not qualified to denigrate people who make that choice >> just because it isn’t the choice you like. > > Yes, it was a little provocative, but never denigration. > > So an exageration as when you said: postfix is the only choice. > > Till now I ask me, how to chose the right MTA. Indeed, the question is akin: how to become a sysadmin? Two options: you can just learn by doing and after 5-6 years you will have your solid choice, or you can read what proponents of different choices say, and estimate using your best guess how trustworthy what is said is , and what you yourself like best. A shortcut for second to first is to choose good book on how to run secure mail server, and just follow that. I for one used that last approach some 20 years ago, and architecture of postfix (built with security in mind) was one confirmation that I chose good source (that was: secure system guide - do not remember the title...); and I never regretted. And I learned a lot of fundamental approach which I still use in whatever I do now. And I still use postfix whenever I need MTA. Good luck. 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RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[d.2.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 17:18:17 -0000 --TegBI+r9roYdcP94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sorry for the late response, only so many hours in the day. On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 08:06:55PM -0400, Shawn Webb wrote: > It appears that Netflix's advisory (as of this writing) does not > include a timeline of events. Would FreeBSD be able to provide its > event timeline with regards to CVE-2019-5599? I don't generally document a timeline of events from our side. This particular disclosure was a bit unusual as it wasn't external but instead was an internal FreeBSD developer the security team often works with. As such, our process was a bit out of sync with normal (as much as we have a normal with our current processes). All of that said, we got notice in early June, about 10 days before public disclosure. > Were any FreeBSD derivatives given advanced notice? If so, which ones? They were not. I would like to get to a point where we feel we could give some sort of heads up for downstream, but we aren't there yet. Best, Gordon --TegBI+r9roYdcP94 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGTBAABCgB9FiEEuyjUCzYO7pNq7RVv5fe8y6O93fgFAl0c409fFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEJC MjhENDBCMzYwRUVFOTM2QUVEMTU2RkU1RjdCQ0NCQTNCRERERjgACgkQ5fe8y6O9 3fgf3AgAmWoZy3EXl/ROMzh2xg8e+63ZqyA8Ugvk/sp/moH7YbAUo6IbrpdWeqMS ExyKeGJ1s5x2aizvUJCDlzSfh2xf/NIEDd6962U3r2leSC66LWR7rZrNkpxgxIfZ TST4rFb03aO1DhtQRMA4hZYo/VFW9w7sQOqJIxRjimq2rRrs2bB+d3QoE7EM2GGi /H9Y8QxGAEE9+kmSsDqlP5KHTTOWjkxEGHeQl1h+kLkm08AVS24z1k1MWvLNYoUK bXB3O4Kdq4iSneGhD43YKA1RXiw07mltib5VVKNHDDuyS+aUXMrq/Qo+6nMKnOtU 1GzNbaezukSHbf7DYoaH2BuQD9h8Tw== =V7Bz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TegBI+r9roYdcP94-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 3 18:56:42 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A1B15DD4C4 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 18:56:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathiaki2@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic311-24.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic311-24.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.188.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FD588A897 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 18:56:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathiaki2@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: yHw0WDAVM1mfM0toZTfCd57tO.HWekh2LToaUER6alqm9XgoznTdV0idhogN2K5 FaN_Gg3nMXIjKrLM_VDw5yINHU3sjw4lMplVZYVWpgaUD4EHVvApQoMb.BSaJVWOB0p9unnBNomB msrnrmD_9w5tDgjpYqEYhQyjft7h1lhCjnCdIFvGJBgUYZ1yO1Ejf23pBv1tI7WktbSY5OSpd5Xk br4IVLLAfOxUsJPnNn8njXzMofSG3DJXFWWz4vsSRF4LEd.EqKIofKfyLqWZ2b9M4uvJ7aVbhpq5 bWuVWs0QiuAa1yCu23Uaa5u10uCVtq50c_wSQwEwsn9lrXUL3XMYVsyAdEVI_4NdXQa_M7rBhQ31 Usb7d1tWkj_qJSVYVPA_RFYxGU3NSUSXKQBxVSEBiTZ2yd_Z9iKEosE5lbMic69Suab3FuYyLwp1 _bxdiLUBfNbpq5iVye3IgfHVKTaJTQhqfsg8dsQG82lRnHNgf0d7z2ivfhnCUsL6E8_XOpAtkwJA RQwUyArZWa6MtxrTwh9TbJqQ_HbxW1vdaMxYUC1mLZ0pirU1krnrmZr2ILFQWse3qWtRR2UBbmXo hQN03H6ygUmgC6yGOhDM5w1KnScaMIS6O2n8Nxn1XefDAlbG0zTCT.5Z.AZd8N5H348jiZCE1Kid dV24IQ4lVjchevTybTmwJODnBgT0R2Uzi9RcnfREA.Gc79uB9tGIBlmoXhxvXtgs6VA.eSySg0bL EijDCGp7Cd25vIY3kKYClWnKT_IIaf9sQ_pvvfd1bGD.okmusa.7Y6zEObqK9qy2o7AkNiDGrfw6 D0VkAGHsifH_Kpn2RJyWxQj_vdtJeW95_ORHmrE1nU.z5kT8MyrPURJ1tI6D3T.f2jcq5NV9KabR TZQ.lqHDgAfYRB1fimZDKJ7Xg98UDxh4kM_CEtkxkeBY1S9u.ULaQhjySmd303vXFxHvlIVdN_mF VO7bAeoit72bzXfFnm23nISpP4Qh1ttxGXSwH9MMsaqmLK0p7QMuC6cVS6ZPOGJEvWlaVsSMUHAd KU6Pury.d3EWBx33KpWjkxcJNbBxHXJzCSxDGd2Mbh4VE.dYg9zyeVU4T.YX7TKLPqiJooQM0ai5 DKIGN7ikmaZlYFMJprjyVkOynrylotAwdMUx.r9oWv2wwhoE0wYEOO1RDkHNNVMc_LUFcmbjzeYF pSisb6znZU.vYY4oD2P6_0.XIvr0wN0zM6HARsDRgjPmtgAnXeD2mqoIAZEXoaZvBhAQqG5CyYwX 9xPiTmYdQ8M7DwQ-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic311.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 18:56:34 +0000 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 18:46:22 +0000 (UTC) From: Paul Pathiakis To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <1214115587.2584521.1562179582687@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20190630092535.7913d305.freebsd@edvax.de> <957EE871-6906-4424-8895-826B517AF581@kreme.com> Subject: Re: sendmail MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.13913 YMailNorrin Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 1FD588A897 X-Spamd-Bar: +++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.80 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.97)[0.974,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.98)[0.977,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mta6.am0.yahoodns.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[205.188.163.66.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; IP_SCORE(1.86)[ip: (7.07), ipnet: 66.163.184.0/21(1.28), asn: 36646(1.02), country: US(-0.06)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.993,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36646, ipnet:66.163.184.0/21, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 18:56:42 -0000 I disagree. I *hated* sendmail, and most especially trying to parse the doc= umentation and configurations. Maybe the docs have gotten better, but the c= onfiguration itself is still opaque to the point of making perl look human-= readable and kid-friendly. /etc/mail/freebsd.cf > R<$+> <$*> <$- $-> <$*>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 $: <$(access $4:$1 $: = ? $)> <$1> <$2> <$3 $4> <$5> > R <$+> <$*> <+ $-> <$*>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 $: <$(access $1 $: ? $)> <= $1> <$2> <+ $3> <$4> > R <$+ + $* @> <$*> <$- $-> <$*> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 $: <$(access $5:$1+*@ $: ? $)> <$1+$2@> <$3> <$4 $5> <$6> God!!! NO!!!! 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FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(-0.80)[ip: (1.59), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.16), asn: 15169(-2.39), country: US(-0.06)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.4.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.49)[-0.487,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 02:51:12 -0000 >>> https://github.com/Netflix/security-bulletins/blob/master/advisories/third-party/2019-001.md >> discussion around disclosure policies > In today's world of parallel discovery, leaks, sec org infiltration by > adversary, surveillance, no crypto, rapid automated exploit, etc... > to wait for patch, polish, and press release advert, to not disclose, > afford users local action up to immediate offlining for safety and wait, > to draw upon entire community pool that has time*ability factor to fix... is > thought by many [users] as irresponsible to users. There is no tone. And > of course this one isn't currently a remote or local root. But what if it > was... > For those interested or new, there's lots of historical discussion with > and without tone that can be found on any seclist, yet is no universal.. https://www.zdnet.com/article/firefox-zero-day-was-used-in-attack-against-coinbase-employees-not-its-users/ https://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/09/04/206228/bugzilla-breached-private-vulnerability-data-stolen A recent Firefox zero-day that has made headlines across the tech news world this week was actually used in attacks against Coinbase employees, and not the company's users. Furthermore, the attacks used not one, but two Firefox zero-days, according to Philip Martin, a member of the Coinbase security team, which reported the attacks to Mozilla. One was an RCE reported by a Google Project Zero security researcher to Mozilla in April, and the second was a sandbox escape that was spotted in the wild by the Coinbase team together with the RCE, on Monday. The question here is how an attacker managed to get hold of the details for the RCE vulnerability and use it for his attacks after the vulnerability was privately reported to Mozilla by Google. The attacker could have found the Firefox RCE on his own, he could have bribed a Mozilla/Google insider, hacked a Mozilla/Google employee and viewed details about the RCE, or hacked Mozilla's bug tracker, like another attacker did in 2015. > https://www.freebsd.org/security/ > https://www.freebsd.org/security/charter.html > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/doc/head/en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs/security/ > > The charter last marked current 2002... is there any actual and > posted mandatory timeliness disclosure trigger component? > One that gets overall reviewed for user input say every N-years? > Perhaps something more security focused than the general... > > https://www.research.net/r/freebsd2019 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 4 04:06:13 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E6E15E8A7F; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 04:06:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd42.google.com (mail-io1-xd42.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C65877EF0; 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There would be benefit to further transparency with some new data fields in FreeBSD advisories, leading to metrics analysis by userbase and project, appropriate resource allocation efficacies, etc. Date_Discovered: Date of original discovery by discoverer. Date_Received: Date project received notification (or observed any info), regardless from external or internal source. Issue should also be posted heads up to lists at this Received time. For apprise those users wishing or needing to performing necessary local review and action prior to formal fix from FreeBSD upstream. And for putting out to community the call to fix. Date_Advisory: Already present as "Announced:" fix. Also ends up being a bit more efficient as fewer cycles need spent on deciding and managing what to witholding timing sched contracts, under whatever questionable premises readily found searching net from thread above. To the extent any of this have possibly applied in the past. Heads Up on receipt, and include targeted fix timeframe guideline for readers based on expected class of fix difficulty selected from prior convened and published policy guide table of difficulties and dependencies. Heads Up and interim are naturally not expected to be a polished Advisory. > This > particular disclosure was a bit unusual as it wasn't external but > instead was an internal FreeBSD developer the security team often works > with. Seems this SACK Discovery was came from Netflix while in that external dev role, not from in purely internal to FreeBSD dev role. And Received was from not Netflix official team role, but by this liason. Fine and moot though, as datestream handling above should apply to all cases. > As such, our process was a bit out of sync with normal (as much as > we have a normal with our current processes). All of that said, we got > notice in early June, about 10 days before public disclosure. Community can ascertain visit any needs adjustments therein with by inclusion of dates and passthrough above. >> Were any FreeBSD derivatives given advanced notice? If so, which ones? > > They were not. I would like to get to a point where we feel we could > give some sort of heads up for downstream, but we aren't there yet. Whether push, or pull via subscribe, derivative third parties are a bit secondary to the closer FreeBSD community processes. ie: Does Linux Kernel push to all 1000 linux distro teams? Probably not, a bit out of scope, so they pull (distro being the derivative depend of kernel there). Again mooted simplicity with better date and passthrough above. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 4 04:37:34 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B16615C2E2D for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 04:37:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26F2780CA3 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 04:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:In-Reply-To; bh=1yQSXk9eJyyBSeK8jEvwWnoL/9qTHxZAflLZeesy08M=; b=Q3liCyAnb8JYwpNDhh1nLomtef 0O/4771XT45WCF+4nSddQH/icYn1voYYenwHKcbydkSUgW6/vEcFlDfswkrvBll0RdEP/w2uX1p7Q 0QxASfH5LzLwLSRgwKuoyhLS/Y8OpVvIxdD01XEQh0+/nN0G+225Lxeyu2X930VaWUxI=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.92 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1hitUx-0004li-90 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2019 11:37:31 +0700 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 11:37:31 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: a pcre question Message-ID: <20190704043731.GA18229@admin.sibptus.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AhhlLboLdkugWU4S" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.0 (2019-05-25) Sender: Victor Sudakov X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 04:37:34 -0000 --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Colleagues, Sorry for a not directly FreeBSD-related question, but why can't I make pcretest from devel/pcre match a newline to the "." token? I expected that either the "m" or the "s" modifier should do the job, but alas! $ pcretest ~/tmp/koshka.txt PCRE version 8.43 2019-02-23 /koshka.*sobaka/s koshka1 No match koshka2 No match sobaka No match koshka No match koshka33 No match While the same regex /koshka.*sobaka/s yields a match on https://regex101.c= om/ --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJdHYKLAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0McMH/1RnhmpetjCMr2YGqSlWUyYt h1R1p2eElHUQ1ep9AF7vhzTll5CM2c7O2sgt40E7ffDBJewy//LYIPiAZuTScpYD oEhjC5z4rOfE7k84usxdQWXxcYm/rxKXs/Uzu1ljjL5/I1Xg24rQN5HMjR8h4aPZ T48dkk15ksrIC580x292ERZrpQGfFYc0z0fdegLkM25zvNUdymgACamutTV1sEfd rAzMZZk7qG2Xp7H3ci2vDSqPOnl8K8WES4HfvAknnU0ASHkGCsYworTsIXiRcvCb 9LbzLBOCUtTepNf9W1P3kinhjP82qxHEcj2j7L3LT23zanCNVEyIWhDQxEOyE7g= =cNr1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 4 07:49:31 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB5415CBA98 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 07:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rs@bytecamp.net) Received: from mxout01.bytecamp.net (mxout01.bytecamp.net [212.204.60.217]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E129856BF for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 07:49:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rs@bytecamp.net) Received: by mxout01.bytecamp.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7D383566AF; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 09:49:28 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=bytecamp.net; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=20140709; bh=arrH6s4SZsGfWPkLbFPFsFVpgvM=; b=CXup6xclm3h+aULOTh8UC3+sYmFbmOCp3nhv01vpxUaXjGdLWjyjwtgElmALUF/pN/NDCj7YOnag8lvucHsRXdaHjNLE8I+w4C26uL36fKxHmWTyM0/JNNMHgr209550L72lJoradSoQKK3I+gjGIXmi6bRQrxuJdPj3o6iVwDw= Received: from mail.bytecamp.net (mail.bytecamp.net [212.204.60.9]) by mxout01.bytecamp.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45961566AC for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 09:49:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 75035 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2019 09:49:28 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.3.32?) (rs%bytecamp.net@80.84.212.123) by mail.bytecamp.net with ESMTPS (AES128-SHA encrypted); 4 Jul 2019 09:49:28 +0200 Subject: Re: extremely slow disk I/O after updating to 12.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5adc029e-198c-5189-cd6c-4fff1e4980f0@bytecamp.net> From: Robert Schulze Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=rs@bytecamp.net; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQENBFRpvvcBCACiXR5ENQUFzwmQCyyQmpG3ppKXS5GamZHZSl6dr+yeTRHW5XJ+46ltis64 U/i1V0DhBD9kHjAvwZvWO+BXVj1kf1GFf286WoUnFvRK6oLRtaqdZDDu+AA3EcvvryRzlkE9 uSBXkg+4ObhxhaLhjWowDBhmAyi3QOAtPpw9tme4c0ktoKMMlkryTAwPXw7sJi7TGJXv088T z2C2eMBKNKwyCWmGsP+0UoZRxO0A7qCU1kIGvsf7N9sYFD3OI9NaYZHvN8g7x7NTInz77a2o /u1EFYcQ6UbphP8AhUX9phvQLsZr0w0eCFQ+kJqtHWdesRckQcpDo8eXDQOvZH5vxErzABEB AAG0IFJvYmVydCBTY2h1bHplIDxyc0BieXRlY2FtcC5uZXQ+iQE+BBMBAgAoBQJUab73Ahsj BQkJZgGABgsJCAcDAgYVCAIJCgsEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRDDYTHqanMMhMpTB/4xAqtfANpm GYyHTt3z2250jx62GwDfK569dASQpiz1U7AwVvZDfsQSMpsIT/GkaDB5meNZVLYIvfpk1jmi CZ11b0WdERShxQhQsZCBWSIJG4jDfbbmhr212hi1rYzBisLb4+sU/V2Gdd42VUitkPItiv8X ImStSrzWiUAOmeXMEgJA6728sh692oYjsVQVXxRMwcAJSwwnlo32HRuAWK037oJ/04UoZijC chjdp8RIU2ItEjjAWQRcS+KHtj0cJurb+PE6WA8vDU18eLNVUcFRwJToa3dlSLN39R7icGuc SlN+HlCrqgqoHVMjX043wPjf3XEXtLcJTFyYcptyWjCuuQENBFRpvvcBCADhu4eObbfXhhzG 4/onzvW+g5t5k7XJMsLjGl7FAmn26CpSMTkHZCFmUR74Bz7Pr/l4RTRvFt1vnHWX/cKhcwnR g3ZId2a+xljT4pe77gV7+VQwdw5T80aMGe+ASeS0VqdzIyauZl0tzzVqh0/zcNLNE2KTo3el CENru7bOAAJ9nJ1PEVBgpE5P789duErp71HrDGG6SFdk+pFGKK41gJWktt0Tf13gikEiwsL/ xhYzuPqHV3Rj3vsIewbMLkC4Ekrsjqr4gKpTlrLhv9xOG/+SFIpdWy4pKY1dCLsR6lZXtbzE 31jXxuKGRjNlhm9eDfRfrN6LfKq2Z4Y+OZBUMWrbABEBAAGJASUEGAECAA8FAlRpvvcCGwwF CQlmAYAACgkQw2Ex6mpzDIQ0sgf/UI9D2tti9zGNZMgr9dLuMrdi+/olRo0C/PQIsw4NaBCh seXjQgTOdg99WvynZrvtt2eE1YCCnUORMyk1h8dtR3ZmFTMy9DAf7hiY99/avadM+rzoczEV WpZND88rD8JZ1WQKZtTDzH+c2wklkARo4XIu3KDqLEVHhdysN1vACEdHmi1FB3WNSLHF05Mf BUTOsyF3dEP625d03KK/91Sp31F0GJjlSTANxIM05bTcJZsG18auIIevn/19ZXSRdFAC7vy9 ugBfv0HVEC1QsarOCWpqJxQOutZI8I/AywGJetGVkTpKkTRnrIfzoBaFEJFGW96gyLSsWuZs B1zN8/OwHQ== Organization: bytecamp GmbH Message-ID: <3b067eb4-f0c7-4680-c3a9-6dac18f45952@bytecamp.net> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 09:49:27 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 1E129856BF X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bytecamp.net header.s=20140709 header.b=CXup6xcl; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rs@bytecamp.net designates 212.204.60.217 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rs@bytecamp.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.27 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.95)[-0.951,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bytecamp.net:s=20140709]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:212.204.60.0/24]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[bytecamp.net.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bytecamp.net]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mail2.bytecamp.net]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bytecamp.net:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.71)[-0.712,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: DE(-0.01)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12693, ipnet:212.204.32.0/19, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[217.60.204.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 07:49:31 -0000 Hi, Am 03.07.19 um 16:33 schrieb David Demelier: > Le 03/07/2019 à 13:43, Robert Schulze a écrit : >> we have seen a drop in I/O performance beginning with 11.2-RELEASE. >> Try disabling scattered ABD: >> >> sysctl vfs.zfs.abd_scatter_enabled=0 > > Thanks for the answer. I'm trying this. > > Is this tunable available at boot (i.e. /boot/loader.conf) or do you put > it in /etc/sysctl.conf? I have set this tuneable in /boot/loader.conf. with kind regards, Robert Schulze From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 4 08:03:55 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46DE315CC462 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 08:03:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erwan@rail.eu.org) Received: from mail.rail.eu.org (mail.rail.eu.org [IPv6:2001:bc8:30d3:ff17::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2F6B85F0D for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 08:03:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erwan@rail.eu.org) Received: from [IPv6:2001:bc8:30d3:ffff::1000] (bibi-vpn.rail.eu.org [IPv6:2001:bc8:30d3:ffff::1000]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: erwan) by mail.rail.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 51CED107BF for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 10:03:51 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=rail.eu.org; s=mail; t=1562227431; bh=oT3EWWww3XpVK5gkXctVqMQZPh9U6eTKedtuNNsqdfc=; h=To:From:Subject:Date:From; b=uqxhwxs0AqE2DyO1xHYv/OEcNA9vBVjmBzZHkqdHQZ88Czd+Le3sIdoQF3nIQgY+U HL1dqrzFnH4wadpANjlJ6tKtHYLEIm+hGtyA27TDRFx4p2g/El2/e9iRnIdCWMODqZ up5rLuNhU1tBq89EM3hfRmQ1/YhkQXXAAg7rgxyU= To: FreeBSD From: Erwan David Subject: Did 11.2-RELEASE-p11 disapear ? Openpgp: id=CAB1220E04DDF6E9CF0CD5C9B80EAC15E40FFD0F Autocrypt: addr=erwan@rail.eu.org; keydata= mQINBFJAaOMBEADAHsjODUMNImClvj0eAW7oCKr/cjccRts2DVrslhb6UEDbxgvnCKGtRy2P A9NcILX/+lG9zaoPw0caDSXDuubrC/giKZAphUTSmd+Uqz+9WDtU602WQuP5d5S1aAUe+fzT 6l9iDSR8Fz07ajjZ791Q0P1P4EwWQDbCJvmNXAknwysX0fIAlLpDaIQ0Asa6IvG/v8TyLZSE U0NytwIfHJMJk5btrM4fdaGc+4XnTK0E2Oa+Qjab18fsBLtHGctQUrDjrWvnGj1slHrfhUrT 67e9NHZgDPmEsOeCChd1ZWurIR0AQFp/Wrz80abJltk+aFswEzOvhkriOGjt4gM31BocpNbZ +sEEg9M6skAeXvuISkfS0bCM3kZ6MgywHE98AbA+8WxiKMRKuuuTNSEmIIRQt8dn7ad/1+r1 KAZ1bkB2naCDArqnpeDb65+378qh/2J6/M0UivSMFLzxXc+AyIxucjmrK8VCWQbDwUiA6sPU W4BC7V7+5j7ELzh4JzQX2LisNzPOqkaTVTfmCgDeL7V9LZErtLlG1rYbISrLvDnWNdiJ9l1d flxnhCs4oqn8KA5DtV6HNwIW6b6zwEHFoDPwtK2fctj0VIRwjiIMlyrEWHiC5NZoPyfexGlj RNP7oaDb6PIItgnBItWq/ZRymXP9gA945DjnrozsUZ02y7OMjQARAQABtB9FcndhbiBEYXZp ZCA8ZXJ3YW5AcmFpbC5ldS5vcmc+iQJUBBMBCAA+AhsDBQsJCAcDBRUKCQgLBRYDAgEAAh4B AheAFiEEyrEiDgTd9unPDNXJuA6sFeQP/Q8FAlzBWT8FCRPm8dwACgkQuA6sFeQP/Q+Ikw/+ Img88okG/yRMOXScYx2/xzr85kpoWJ2k6Pl5w23zZ3oHflMGqXfp5mVQbq2X7MRx/CJwvBcK BAOPe2xVPLh26AlCOI+ZY/cM7HtnKPhIGRqTVi6K8wRE2HSpusVTP9sIt3V7oudYawJq/3KG zRsLXQb4FzvZxE+WXEB1NOHYZsH9A/gG1ljsTAux0Gh6RFp+Ij904YzFyh2gSRTpcSmyotXA X+ur/Cp4fPxCgIKP5evT0Nnq+LUwUoYjhHh73VubdmhouXa4EHQnBtGpuAyRDYnu0GPO2Oo6 Zudsin1MKbYdfwwKo2be7XQa2L1Xx3eavwseJqAAYucKxEQtiqenRWV40Av18Jkv17g0ao3L 0vtoKViljOJgL1Ny8436b6oLJzyNOby0OWHbRjp1l/RYfVYXW2wlF5XzLUMBclZX1fSjheoK vCewHoiRl9XPA+Y4RXMfHRRRFqTt3rkt8A7FBnVXePqwCl63FJ7Ywap60UIsUkXqI2fv5COH eduWKzLvwK22KaaleDadxDgRT7uJSS1XVIjUhkNgrqVMhfoo3yS6qi4+7baGVSrjYRLOp8IO bBtxuNPaQw+/R6BsLC0qacCV0FFY7k22aaKl1WoMNkzY38hyxOPp2VHLtwIGGhY8hHicQUsu KTkF0e24LM5x0Qd7/YyckRDN3FxM6wEYANu5Ag0EUkBo4wEQAL6D44lG/kjEQCY17c5qoeIK RMgR2ZUC6Mx2wPjhawaxRoiDE6EYEt7A5S1KEx+VXDClRnj0DrnCC5UqWsKq0443p3SploIq oCU9yaUe5sfutwCb3SWl2Ae9sAb09RIgdS41Hhg1U1TctIPjLy+0A9qtTopqPZi3ffE+RcJG RDJbJO9e8FiGIkGayruqmvFGJ7lOyK806FJJduDdLbK/l9G3tvxglvrAoPfjxPMPqUACk4t+ 5Gaiu56Kdzf+Fh6hk5UJSV5ETj5FLes+eQgwqa0cPbVsbxZ93Q3ZXBCRTJVP7V34cGjGEeqR ikmceoLJ3Z0erpPY6xn8uHP0AWTh+8g5IlGnt+nfwqPvQcCOBpQGEWIX5Olb52w9J6/TrowV u0aK4XjMuEKRt+ggHwmE6oGGwMppMsEOZXkMOMOJt5hStJ2XcNljH5lWFKL+JyuPJVjOZTt/ wbOk2xtUANAZdsGhQcrkkUx961PVAz4fo+8LDX4eRVLvuFUTJgRaMzlh6EQkgCzprYrZUHa2 5/+GTMygk6kG1cEn10gENAT4g9Gmq6FCExQERg5fZDwC5sxNVPqBa54zyXGGJ+4gReJglFsj xHPKgTaebVTMkwYhVR8UeAMb/yBzpsTD5dr0+Fc7VnmBs5rjqR8bnnx0agJ0HkIB9efAw5tl gwNbVUo5OaUvABEBAAGJAh8EGAEIAAkFAlJAaOMCGwwACgkQuA6sFeQP/Q8A7g//RF2nU4xm n9jlmP1YhiJ6Kx72ODpDVONAujNJ3i71RcGS84pTwedHm8VaOI9hH1eSIxM4AM+hFmruTw65 PR0aziUjMZRsZ112GgiC6UyzfAUIQ1ypjty6rpE1P8C2G2WNNuEwAnr6OiTZA4kim9YmF1FQ y61dbAbajJaFA/SABMu8WJW/YXVYtxHgGW7KLj9LHfnWmbkDz1ECBJsh76PeHavsqhRTHfp7 JWFmsVsxViJT4sr+HkiDfTDuT4k1Ba8Kj3yscsntyNH1l8G/YbDdsfHEhDmsYCLrGb/fUm+p C4DT4+ygLSCJkI1/elKiUpOmOuMgu5xieWhXaWKQa73zsdShhuyRa74MPA8WjkLyDRlb8cGv J5cwsjwnidHE2gYqZETGSGuZDoTPUb5kc2XEKwg1eLuL67acYllzp2epAOAbXn2RahZJPUNX D9MKacByetKBAusXNi4AszxcBqFEHpG4/t3stLmXIDd5LvUayovHd1steHbEPvl9dpU36Fte cnUNO6Z9JhIvAYy8b/7TT61qwQvOsca+NMlS/q+hPkx3npI1GFEAkanFLrLVE1MGT6C0kZ2M Em7mCpZQIZT2IhMsHXhaMQlP5np5/mFJ915bd+B3usfoQNWJmN3g7tVZGvl5Z7m7J5Zv3L84 U13tbPt33blV8WK4hIDA/c/rm2k= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 10:03:50 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: fr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 08:03:55 -0000 I got a notification from my nightly freebsd-update cron, that it had fetched upgrades to 11.2-RELEASE-p11 So I did a freebsd-update install, then ezjail-admin update -u And then I get the message that the mirrors onky have the p10 ? Is there a problem with p11 ? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 4 09:58:33 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3209515CED7A for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 09:58:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@dismail.de) Received: from mx2.dismail.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:4f8:1c17:7be2::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx2.dismail.de", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 951F28953A for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 09:58:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@dismail.de) Received: from mx2.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 067fbc6a for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 11:58:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp1.dismail.de ( [10.240.26.11]) by mx2.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id f50e4629 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 11:58:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp1.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 477d292f for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 11:58:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 8ef6a19d (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO) for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 11:58:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 05:58:18 -0400 From: To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: ZyXelVMG4380-B10A logs Message-ID: <20190704055818.18b27cbf@dismail.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 951F28953A X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.19 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[dismail.de:s=201701]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; IP_SCORE(-0.74)[ipnet: 2a01:4f8::/29(-1.93), asn: 24940(-1.77), country: DE(-0.01)]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a01:4f8:1c17:7be2::2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[dismail.de.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.dismail.de]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[dismail.de:+]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.943,0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[dismail.de,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:2a01:4f8::/29, country:DE]; HFILTER_HOSTNAME_UNKNOWN(2.50)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 09:58:33 -0000 Hi! I am using FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE and I have a DSL Internet and using provider Zyxel VMG4380-B10A. I did check security logs and everything is okay except when I loging to modem there are Warnings in Attack sections: SYN FLOODING Attack: IN=3Dbr0 OUT=3Dn/a MAC=3De8:37:7a:70:82:79:00:23:df:ff:f1:9f:08:00 SRC=3D192.168.1.2 DST=3D192.168.1.1 LEN=3D60 TOS=3D0x00 PREC=3D0x00 TTL=3D64 DF PROTO=3DTCP S= PT=3D56186 DPT=3D80 WINDOW=3D65535 RES=3D0x00 SYN URGP=3D0 I am using default ipfw firewall " Workstation". Thank you. --=20 =E2=80=9CHappiness is the meaning and the purpose of life, the whole aim and end of human existence.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=95 Aristotle From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 4 10:10:49 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A9215CF737 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 10:10:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erwan@rail.eu.org) Received: from mail.rail.eu.org (mail.rail.eu.org [IPv6:2001:bc8:30d3:ff17::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F097589C81 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 10:10:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erwan@rail.eu.org) Received: from [IPv6:2001:bc8:30d3:ffff::1000] (bibi-vpn.rail.eu.org [IPv6:2001:bc8:30d3:ffff::1000]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: erwan) by mail.rail.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A551D112F for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 12:10:44 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=rail.eu.org; s=mail; t=1562235044; bh=T+gi355r+hw5lXk4V0s+c1vcIkUJSqT+6f1wBhuU3bg=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=GStve1jAlsLQPmfIBngpbowNq2deOWJyygN4mJtcNDyT1dCUVCLlsPdSViskDjNmg QZu1USJuE1P9KGk4/hJ8arENlaQ6WAay2K4IoaV318qYULNzpjwAFwDlXNyqFSbD8U pgmQAuJHyB0kv3rWHTlYNNNNIbTA/09uIBcLZyiQ= Subject: Re: Did 11.2-RELEASE-p11 disapear ? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Erwan David Openpgp: id=CAB1220E04DDF6E9CF0CD5C9B80EAC15E40FFD0F Autocrypt: addr=erwan@rail.eu.org; keydata= mQINBFJAaOMBEADAHsjODUMNImClvj0eAW7oCKr/cjccRts2DVrslhb6UEDbxgvnCKGtRy2P A9NcILX/+lG9zaoPw0caDSXDuubrC/giKZAphUTSmd+Uqz+9WDtU602WQuP5d5S1aAUe+fzT 6l9iDSR8Fz07ajjZ791Q0P1P4EwWQDbCJvmNXAknwysX0fIAlLpDaIQ0Asa6IvG/v8TyLZSE U0NytwIfHJMJk5btrM4fdaGc+4XnTK0E2Oa+Qjab18fsBLtHGctQUrDjrWvnGj1slHrfhUrT 67e9NHZgDPmEsOeCChd1ZWurIR0AQFp/Wrz80abJltk+aFswEzOvhkriOGjt4gM31BocpNbZ +sEEg9M6skAeXvuISkfS0bCM3kZ6MgywHE98AbA+8WxiKMRKuuuTNSEmIIRQt8dn7ad/1+r1 KAZ1bkB2naCDArqnpeDb65+378qh/2J6/M0UivSMFLzxXc+AyIxucjmrK8VCWQbDwUiA6sPU W4BC7V7+5j7ELzh4JzQX2LisNzPOqkaTVTfmCgDeL7V9LZErtLlG1rYbISrLvDnWNdiJ9l1d flxnhCs4oqn8KA5DtV6HNwIW6b6zwEHFoDPwtK2fctj0VIRwjiIMlyrEWHiC5NZoPyfexGlj RNP7oaDb6PIItgnBItWq/ZRymXP9gA945DjnrozsUZ02y7OMjQARAQABtB9FcndhbiBEYXZp ZCA8ZXJ3YW5AcmFpbC5ldS5vcmc+iQJUBBMBCAA+AhsDBQsJCAcDBRUKCQgLBRYDAgEAAh4B AheAFiEEyrEiDgTd9unPDNXJuA6sFeQP/Q8FAlzBWT8FCRPm8dwACgkQuA6sFeQP/Q+Ikw/+ Img88okG/yRMOXScYx2/xzr85kpoWJ2k6Pl5w23zZ3oHflMGqXfp5mVQbq2X7MRx/CJwvBcK BAOPe2xVPLh26AlCOI+ZY/cM7HtnKPhIGRqTVi6K8wRE2HSpusVTP9sIt3V7oudYawJq/3KG zRsLXQb4FzvZxE+WXEB1NOHYZsH9A/gG1ljsTAux0Gh6RFp+Ij904YzFyh2gSRTpcSmyotXA X+ur/Cp4fPxCgIKP5evT0Nnq+LUwUoYjhHh73VubdmhouXa4EHQnBtGpuAyRDYnu0GPO2Oo6 Zudsin1MKbYdfwwKo2be7XQa2L1Xx3eavwseJqAAYucKxEQtiqenRWV40Av18Jkv17g0ao3L 0vtoKViljOJgL1Ny8436b6oLJzyNOby0OWHbRjp1l/RYfVYXW2wlF5XzLUMBclZX1fSjheoK vCewHoiRl9XPA+Y4RXMfHRRRFqTt3rkt8A7FBnVXePqwCl63FJ7Ywap60UIsUkXqI2fv5COH eduWKzLvwK22KaaleDadxDgRT7uJSS1XVIjUhkNgrqVMhfoo3yS6qi4+7baGVSrjYRLOp8IO bBtxuNPaQw+/R6BsLC0qacCV0FFY7k22aaKl1WoMNkzY38hyxOPp2VHLtwIGGhY8hHicQUsu KTkF0e24LM5x0Qd7/YyckRDN3FxM6wEYANu5Ag0EUkBo4wEQAL6D44lG/kjEQCY17c5qoeIK RMgR2ZUC6Mx2wPjhawaxRoiDE6EYEt7A5S1KEx+VXDClRnj0DrnCC5UqWsKq0443p3SploIq oCU9yaUe5sfutwCb3SWl2Ae9sAb09RIgdS41Hhg1U1TctIPjLy+0A9qtTopqPZi3ffE+RcJG RDJbJO9e8FiGIkGayruqmvFGJ7lOyK806FJJduDdLbK/l9G3tvxglvrAoPfjxPMPqUACk4t+ 5Gaiu56Kdzf+Fh6hk5UJSV5ETj5FLes+eQgwqa0cPbVsbxZ93Q3ZXBCRTJVP7V34cGjGEeqR ikmceoLJ3Z0erpPY6xn8uHP0AWTh+8g5IlGnt+nfwqPvQcCOBpQGEWIX5Olb52w9J6/TrowV u0aK4XjMuEKRt+ggHwmE6oGGwMppMsEOZXkMOMOJt5hStJ2XcNljH5lWFKL+JyuPJVjOZTt/ wbOk2xtUANAZdsGhQcrkkUx961PVAz4fo+8LDX4eRVLvuFUTJgRaMzlh6EQkgCzprYrZUHa2 5/+GTMygk6kG1cEn10gENAT4g9Gmq6FCExQERg5fZDwC5sxNVPqBa54zyXGGJ+4gReJglFsj xHPKgTaebVTMkwYhVR8UeAMb/yBzpsTD5dr0+Fc7VnmBs5rjqR8bnnx0agJ0HkIB9efAw5tl gwNbVUo5OaUvABEBAAGJAh8EGAEIAAkFAlJAaOMCGwwACgkQuA6sFeQP/Q8A7g//RF2nU4xm n9jlmP1YhiJ6Kx72ODpDVONAujNJ3i71RcGS84pTwedHm8VaOI9hH1eSIxM4AM+hFmruTw65 PR0aziUjMZRsZ112GgiC6UyzfAUIQ1ypjty6rpE1P8C2G2WNNuEwAnr6OiTZA4kim9YmF1FQ y61dbAbajJaFA/SABMu8WJW/YXVYtxHgGW7KLj9LHfnWmbkDz1ECBJsh76PeHavsqhRTHfp7 JWFmsVsxViJT4sr+HkiDfTDuT4k1Ba8Kj3yscsntyNH1l8G/YbDdsfHEhDmsYCLrGb/fUm+p C4DT4+ygLSCJkI1/elKiUpOmOuMgu5xieWhXaWKQa73zsdShhuyRa74MPA8WjkLyDRlb8cGv J5cwsjwnidHE2gYqZETGSGuZDoTPUb5kc2XEKwg1eLuL67acYllzp2epAOAbXn2RahZJPUNX D9MKacByetKBAusXNi4AszxcBqFEHpG4/t3stLmXIDd5LvUayovHd1steHbEPvl9dpU36Fte cnUNO6Z9JhIvAYy8b/7TT61qwQvOsca+NMlS/q+hPkx3npI1GFEAkanFLrLVE1MGT6C0kZ2M Em7mCpZQIZT2IhMsHXhaMQlP5np5/mFJ915bd+B3usfoQNWJmN3g7tVZGvl5Z7m7J5Zv3L84 U13tbPt33blV8WK4hIDA/c/rm2k= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 12:10:44 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: fr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 10:10:49 -0000 Le 04/07/2019 à 10:03, Erwan David a écrit : > I got a notification from my nightly freebsd-update cron, that it had > fetched upgrades to 11.2-RELEASE-p11 > > So I did a freebsd-update install, then ezjail-admin update -u > > And then I get the message that the mirrors onky have the p10 ? Is there > a problem with p11 ? > A new try worked, but on the 3rd mirrir tried. So it seems not all the mirrors have the files. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 4 13:38:38 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A8615D5FF6 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 13:38:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84B68923DA for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 13:38:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: sendmail Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 07:38:35 -0600 References: <20190630092535.7913d305.freebsd@edvax.de> <957EE871-6906-4424-8895-826B517AF581@kreme.com> <1214115587.2584521.1562179582687@mail.yahoo.com> To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <1214115587.2584521.1562179582687@mail.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <78E7EC05-C990-4EEA-ABCA-C5614326B87F@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3564) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 84B68923DA X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.01 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.86)[-0.860,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.955,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.26)[ip: (-0.92), ipnet: 65.112.0.0/12(-0.32), asn: 209(-0.03), country: US(-0.06)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mail.covisp.net]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.51)[-0.515,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 13:38:38 -0000 On 3 Jul 2019, at 12:46, Paul Pathiakis via freebsd-questions = wrote: > I disagree. I *hated* sendmail, and most especially trying to parse = the documentation and configurations. Maybe the docs have gotten better, = but the configuration itself is still opaque to the point of making perl = look human-readable and kid-friendly. >=20 > /etc/mail/freebsd.cf >> [terrifying sendmail syntax removed] >=20 > God!!! NO!!!! Not the .cf file's context free grammar!!! *Has visions = of discrete math classes in comp sci* *convulses, falls to the ground, = the sendmail configuration emergency team quickly dresses him in his = 'happy jacket with the long sleeves' and carts him off to the sendmail = hospital. Months of therapy ensues - visions of sub-domaining and = header re-writing rules dance through his tormented mind... * NOO!!!! = Make it STOOOOOPPPPPP!!!!! But it was such fun back in the day (like early 90s)! Aren=E2=80=99t you = nostalgic for it? Kind of? No? Right, me neither. Every day is a day further away from sendmail and = every day further from sendmail is a good day. =F0=9F=98=83 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 5 04:32:24 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A5615E49E2 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2019 04:32:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg.marsh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x441.google.com (mail-wr1-x441.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::441]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 279B484F45 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2019 04:32:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg.marsh@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x441.google.com with SMTP id p13so8414838wru.10 for ; Thu, 04 Jul 2019 21:32:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=0/nX+63p8IL0x7mkRcWIFLRGwH6uAcRk5zcK+q/NRyE=; b=oj+Uah7g+uA0MZL4lo49KsIjCDAJ1cAbKogMzbrzryq5DUedqC9M17DBnnvzBTdTKk 3+lf4/Z8eyVEhpw8Ht2SsayuBlex7UyzI6D540/xTd9kqTx2mBPkYdIToyluLnBsY/VZ vRGEWl9riscMGloZ/UhHKpKSynYsqfJG3KeLjcBTamcxTCmCWaBxiqX8oefQASC9SnO/ t1qXbceYlGRK0R2e4y+klDmkHo0XnFCjAydYzQKajaWy3AfKoHPyvTyIvzrUtmKjV/eu +KQb6+das6EbNT4vlOnfFmFms2m9hXt4D5Gph829vv1vDafgh6eqaN/hvME+Sw9ExYKH yjyQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=0/nX+63p8IL0x7mkRcWIFLRGwH6uAcRk5zcK+q/NRyE=; b=SnMCQlOZfn8GgTajSmao4hERo+TsgvaMlyOwT8S1Qq0JLVZTOXSkiOxORFTOqn90Zy F9Q/IWhnyqrHDtkaV9pK302XhGXzO+Qy/yVaIECg0XSjvRt/mXIduxWaxXKtznXJOYq4 XP0ND4nikbBmZW23M8G1owJWYgWvRo+3ArP0R5ei5HkGE/L70jmQceocaSApY6QpU9BL IxvMY6wjtycuGxGpKNWT/676xpiVtnYv6RGej38XV/ldoKlb1SVw5yNptz5Gl3zD4b2W Kyt+1GXV5XIx3Yudio9a/7XwzGlBI8xq0xd9xAnuOx7M1I2MxzWJJ+hi3A7car0VAWVo aW5Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV8EOz82gb93iFf6IN5+um9jb3sG3Ml3CJtq1GQym9S5wnVwJ4d 4hG4RFd8vi6ESFiGOmOoeZnmwlEvl6OdfNPpF9s= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwx8VIL3iHRGT9tWQrVfyu3szn9csC3VQ+iUn+88QIMYeEn3/zSzBbZOpEleUHJj1Mr3KBV61HHap9fQa4eSO4= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:5303:: with SMTP id e3mr1556741wrv.239.1562301141342; Thu, 04 Jul 2019 21:32:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5adc029e-198c-5189-cd6c-4fff1e4980f0@bytecamp.net> <3b067eb4-f0c7-4680-c3a9-6dac18f45952@bytecamp.net> In-Reply-To: <3b067eb4-f0c7-4680-c3a9-6dac18f45952@bytecamp.net> From: Greg Marsh Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 00:32:10 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: extremely slow disk I/O after updating to 12.0 To: Robert Schulze Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 279B484F45 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=oj+Uah7g; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of gregmarsh@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::441 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gregmarsh@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.13 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.45)[-0.453,0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.4.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-0.67)[ip: (1.86), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.75), asn: 15169(-2.40), country: US(-0.06)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2019 04:32:24 -0000 I have been enjoying this conversation a lot. I deal with 10's of thousands of small files daily. Since doing the sysctl vfs.zfs.abd_scatter_enabled=3D0 I've noticed a massive uptick in the use of the L2ARC and a boost to my regular processing times (this is hearsay, I haven't done the numbers yet, but my day has been going by quicker) My storage system a is 5 disk raidz w/ SSD L2ARC and SLOG/ZIL. In reading the abd_scatter header file (I'm not a programmer), I'm making an educated guess the ABD information, no longer being able to be put wherever, needing a contiguous space of memory, has been using the L2ARC more frequently. Please correct me if I'm wrong with this interpretation. How file systems work is of deep interest to me and I <3 ZFS. In any event, I have seen an uptick in the processing of these files since doing the suggested modification. Thank you, Greg On Thu, 4 Jul 2019 at 03:52, Robert Schulze wrote: > Hi, > > Am 03.07.19 um 16:33 schrieb David Demelier: > > Le 03/07/2019 =C3=A0 13:43, Robert Schulze a =C3=A9crit : > >> we have seen a drop in I/O performance beginning with 11.2-RELEASE. > >> Try disabling scattered ABD: > >> > >> sysctl vfs.zfs.abd_scatter_enabled=3D0 > > > > Thanks for the answer. I'm trying this. > > > > Is this tunable available at boot (i.e. /boot/loader.conf) or do you pu= t > > it in /etc/sysctl.conf? > > I have set this tuneable in /boot/loader.conf. > > with kind regards, > Robert Schulze > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 5 06:07:09 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD0115E5D90; Fri, 5 Jul 2019 06:07:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from vtr.rulingia.com (vtr.rulingia.com [IPv6:2001:19f0:5801:ebe:5400:1ff:fe53:30fd]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vtr.rulingia.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF19687196; Fri, 5 Jul 2019 06:07:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from server.rulingia.com (ppp59-167-167-3.static.internode.on.net [59.167.167.3]) by vtr.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x6566w47076464 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 5 Jul 2019 16:07:03 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.rulingia.com (localhost.rulingia.com [127.0.0.1]) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x6566qO9005650 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Jul 2019 16:06:52 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from peter@server.rulingia.com) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x6566q9c005649; Fri, 5 Jul 2019 16:06:52 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 16:06:52 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: grarpamp Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Review of FreeBSD Security Advisory Process: Incl Heads Up, Dates, Etc [cont: 5599 SACK} Message-ID: <20190705060652.GA2974@server.rulingia.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://www.rulingia.com/keys/peter.pgp User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.0 (2019-05-25) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2019 06:07:09 -0000 --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2019-Jul-04 00:06:10 -0400, grarpamp wrote: >Continued from beginnings in: >https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-security/2019-June/009996.html > >> I don't generally document a timeline of events from our side. > >There would be benefit to further transparency with >some new data fields in FreeBSD advisories, >leading to metrics analysis by userbase and project, >appropriate resource allocation efficacies, etc. Security Officer is a volunteer position and their time is valuable. What benefits would be gained by requiring them to do more work to provide information that is mostly already available elsewhere? >Date_Discovered: Date of original discovery by discoverer. This will be in the linked CVE. >Date_Received: Date project received notification (or >observed any info), regardless from external or internal source. How/why is this relevant? I agree that the project has been ignored in some cases but that is generally discussed separately. >Issue should also be posted heads up to lists at this Received >time. Definitely not. Early advice of vulnerabilities is very much "need to know= ". Unless someone's expertise is required to rectify the vulnerability, details regarding the vulnerability should remain private. The discoverers may choose to publish early information, in which case, the Project may choose to publicly reference that information. >Also ends up being a bit more efficient as fewer cycles need spent >on deciding and managing what to witholding timing sched contracts, >under whatever questionable premises readily found searching >net from thread above. To the extent any of this have possibly >applied in the past. Public announcement dates are generally not under Project control - where a vulnerability affects multiple vendors, there is almost always general agreement on a common announcement date. If the Project leaks information about unannounced vulnerabilities, it will stop receiving advance information about vulnerabilities - this definitely will adversely impact the Project. --=20 Peter Jeremy --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEE7rKYbDBnHnTmXCJ+FqWXoOSiCzQFAl0e6PRfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEVF QjI5ODZDMzA2NzFFNzRFNjVDMjI3RTE2QTU5N0EwRTRBMjBCMzQACgkQFqWXoOSi CzTGIBAAhGVuXkwZBmyot3uql88LVElS8HTNzNFWnSxJZmWTposSVjrer4W2nWlK 5lXb1y82Yccuq57BOrSxFLPzBh58/IuaedxB0tG6NhpDT6T3jYLJYfdi7993uJ/x eRs90GswHybFHSjC5YtFYw5ZP8+mro1LBw1gGZbD71ZNx93BCSWHjIuQLHECmWgo 3g5wCwnoj3dZxojECjzrPChDm/uEWysEQphH8pLNWtqcYgfx3m5LAu3jpsJHDDYn AONh3TAtb/5xVA00SAmiu1GqdCo/94nTuvcyMQgPxycWRRpNEHQ7x6e3pLLJk5lm jmt6bxqWmYzLBR9oeNFlD8lTld9J35SCB/X9pSK6PigQDXe2gpOED3wzSvP4/E8W xFzuqJFUmNn7dCyUT8Z4SuNp8bS7i3m8rvZCJNR98K2uQFuVSWE3L+e1JjtoTVde SitC0I9MZKe/ZbHoTJtcku+FSuL+ivyW185NRHPVTf7gKjJb2f2jVwvzpHPXAwN3 2o1JB8FuPIZ1X4gBUg1LK9mJgnN035wkJypGM/tYpjgqhyHcUm8VcllSYfBUiKZi b67N2IGPtS8Cv79MayQd6rpDTpVXppN85Q2r0PW7kssXhdKC7pgfLzl+f7huSHUz 6CEJE2QP/xa8oBABn2/HR7ZKqMY327fSR7M+fvjwWrGuq5mWORU= =mjnj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 5 13:40:05 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D03F15CAFDE for ; 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Fri, 05 Jul 2019 06:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 09:40:01 -0400 From: Shawn Webb To: Gordon Tetlow Cc: grarpamp , freebsd-security@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVE-2019-5599 SACK Slowness (FreeBSD 12 using the RACK TCP Stack) Message-ID: <20190705134001.bba2y4dxqirs6xe6@mutt-hbsd> References: <20190618235535.GY32970@gmail.com> <20190619000655.2gde4u5i5ter5exu@mutt-hbsd> <20190703171812.GM32970@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tuidbrfgys2o5z5i" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190703171812.GM32970@gmail.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD mutt-hbsd 13.0-CURRENT-HBSD FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT-HBSD X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xFF2E67A277F8E1FA User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: DF1C96FE5A X-Spamd-Bar: -------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=hardenedbsd.org header.s=google header.b=GLwIwarl; 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PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hardenedbsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[a.2.7.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2019 13:40:05 -0000 --tuidbrfgys2o5z5i Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 10:18:12AM -0700, Gordon Tetlow wrote: > Sorry for the late response, only so many hours in the day. Completely understood. Thanks for taking the time to respond! >=20 > On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 08:06:55PM -0400, Shawn Webb wrote: > > It appears that Netflix's advisory (as of this writing) does not > > include a timeline of events. Would FreeBSD be able to provide its > > event timeline with regards to CVE-2019-5599? >=20 > I don't generally document a timeline of events from our side. This > particular disclosure was a bit unusual as it wasn't external but > instead was an internal FreeBSD developer the security team often works > with. As such, our process was a bit out of sync with normal (as much as > we have a normal with our current processes). All of that said, we got > notice in early June, about 10 days before public disclosure. Perhaps this might be a good time to start keeping records for future vulnerability reports, regardless of source of disclosure. Does FreeBSD publish its vulnerability response process documentation? If not, would FreeBSD be open to such transparency? >=20 > > Were any FreeBSD derivatives given advanced notice? If so, which ones? >=20 > They were not. I would like to get to a point where we feel we could > give some sort of heads up for downstream, but we aren't there yet. Sounds good. Let me know how I can help. I'm at your service. Thanks, --=20 Shawn Webb Cofounder / Security Engineer HardenedBSD Tor-ified Signal: +1 443-546-8752 Tor+XMPP+OTR: lattera@is.a.hacker.sx GPG Key ID: 0xFF2E67A277F8E1FA GPG Key Fingerprint: D206 BB45 15E0 9C49 0CF9 3633 C85B 0AF8 AB23 0FB2 --tuidbrfgys2o5z5i Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEA6TL67gupaZ9nzhT/y5nonf44foFAl0fUysACgkQ/y5nonf4 4fqdtw//QSywCw8aWbQBTlMD4f3xQ9YuTMCmx7hYmR60UEI70NcOKuu/2zEZW6Id 4jAX4TErpHnGQ3Fe1e8dquZHE53KLz4mbE1LF2NwWmbWdcyTi7siaXKSYxDALQo4 1cH4A523oxOlbwTCfWmvwoEQMSxZ0riWIyXzubVW1joOUel8OE11ev1g9DtLj8J8 2TWJIN1dnqlbmRIH7bq5UFqDAo2awhIYd3tq9TVqTLpfiq5AjCy7GRrhEo+l7unO lIl5CeZP+47yUZlBUsegMKiA59JoMACZBBVHV4fhv4Yc790pN1RSc5l2ja34dwEC 4BSRkH5ZDN+tkP1NChNaiMNLw8Xqa4fcOIJy4TiZlFbGzwZKx65u3fKwVinBIq4T kn2o368ALXGPFCOJCvjYlKRgjV0msEZ81aKMLyNRycaSJN7cK+BqOsagASnjiJ3w EtRxnjslXGSkwxrvde95CTpsTvdtdXaH62gZrhWgjwD0tfOyHR6pAkEmFXvX+tao qIey3nH4fPF/BvIsbIYMlBNOyyZ6liuTN/pANmGkIg8CjJcKBAbLbpfWqz2+sqa9 GDKPBrLEyf7pi4EbJfB+saU89kbz3nBWS8tseOWRBxKXwtVWoDmeY+fDJHVAUpXs nYPt+sPskLQ0bbuIWj1sZsTBHUVqrPIrYMZgmf3YWCV36R+L9a0= =8P8a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tuidbrfgys2o5z5i-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 5 14:52:59 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B3315CC977; Fri, 5 Jul 2019 14:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from clavin1.langille.org (clavin1.langille.org [162.208.116.86]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "clavin.langille.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39F2872B32; Fri, 5 Jul 2019 14:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from (clavin1.int.langille.org (clavin1.int.unixathome.org [10.4.7.7]) (Authenticated sender: hidden) with ESMTPSA id E1B821A1EC ; Fri, 5 Jul 2019 14:52:42 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: CVE-2019-5599 SACK Slowness (FreeBSD 12 using the RACK TCP Stack) From: Dan Langille X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16F203) In-Reply-To: <20190705134001.bba2y4dxqirs6xe6@mutt-hbsd> Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 07:52:32 -0700 Cc: Gordon Tetlow , freebsd-security@freebsd.org, grarpamp , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20190618235535.GY32970@gmail.com> <20190619000655.2gde4u5i5ter5exu@mutt-hbsd> <20190703171812.GM32970@gmail.com> <20190705134001.bba2y4dxqirs6xe6@mutt-hbsd> To: Shawn Webb X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 39F2872B32 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=langille.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dan@langille.org designates 162.208.116.86 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dan@langille.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.62 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:162.208.116.86]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-3.50)[ip: (-9.49), ipnet: 162.208.116.0/22(-4.93), asn: 11403(-3.02), country: US(-0.06)]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[in2-smtp.messagingengine.com,in1-smtp.messagingengine.com,in2-smtp.messagingengine.com,in1-smtp.messagingengine.com,in2-smtp.messagingengine.com,in1-smtp.messagingengine.com,in2-smtp.messagingengine.com,in1-smtp.messagingengine.com,in2-smtp.messagingengine.com,in1-smtp.messagingengine.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[langille.org,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.82)[-0.816,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:162.208.116.0/22, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2019 14:52:59 -0000 > On Jul 5, 2019, at 6:40 AM, Shawn Webb wrote:= >=20 >> On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 10:18:12AM -0700, Gordon Tetlow wrote: >> Sorry for the late response, only so many hours in the day. >=20 > Completely understood. Thanks for taking the time to respond! >=20 >>=20 >>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 08:06:55PM -0400, Shawn Webb wrote: >>> It appears that Netflix's advisory (as of this writing) does not >>> include a timeline of events. Would FreeBSD be able to provide its >>> event timeline with regards to CVE-2019-5599? >>=20 >> I don't generally document a timeline of events from our side. This >> particular disclosure was a bit unusual as it wasn't external but >> instead was an internal FreeBSD developer the security team often works >> with. As such, our process was a bit out of sync with normal (as much as >> we have a normal with our current processes). All of that said, we got >> notice in early June, about 10 days before public disclosure. >=20 > Perhaps this might be a good time to start keeping records for future > vulnerability reports, regardless of source of disclosure. >=20 > Does FreeBSD publish its vulnerability response process documentation? > If not, would FreeBSD be open to such transparency? You=E2=80=99re asking volunteers, performing a very time-consuming task, to d= o even more work. The demands of security officer are pretty onerous as it is. >=20 >>=20 >>> Were any FreeBSD derivatives given advanced notice? If so, which ones? >>=20 >> They were not. I would like to get to a point where we feel we could >> give some sort of heads up for downstream, but we aren't there yet. >=20 > Sounds good. Let me know how I can help. 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charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 07:52:32AM -0700, Dan Langille wrote: > > On Jul 5, 2019, at 6:40 AM, Shawn Webb wro= te: > >=20 > >> On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 10:18:12AM -0700, Gordon Tetlow wrote: > >> Sorry for the late response, only so many hours in the day. > >=20 > > Completely understood. Thanks for taking the time to respond! > >=20 > >>=20 > >>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 08:06:55PM -0400, Shawn Webb wrote: > >>> It appears that Netflix's advisory (as of this writing) does not > >>> include a timeline of events. Would FreeBSD be able to provide its > >>> event timeline with regards to CVE-2019-5599? > >>=20 > >> I don't generally document a timeline of events from our side. This > >> particular disclosure was a bit unusual as it wasn't external but > >> instead was an internal FreeBSD developer the security team often works > >> with. As such, our process was a bit out of sync with normal (as much = as > >> we have a normal with our current processes). All of that said, we got > >> notice in early June, about 10 days before public disclosure. > >=20 > > Perhaps this might be a good time to start keeping records for future > > vulnerability reports, regardless of source of disclosure. > >=20 > > Does FreeBSD publish its vulnerability response process documentation? > > If not, would FreeBSD be open to such transparency? >=20 > You???re asking volunteers, performing a very time-consuming task, to do = even more work. >=20 > The demands of security officer are pretty onerous as it is. Hey Dan, My intent was not to task anyone or add to their burden. I apologize if that is how my questions were perceived upon receipt. My goal was to perhaps start a dialogue, brainstorming ways to improve processes along the way. As a downstream derivative of FreeBSD, one who will indeed be in the same place as FreeBSD with regards to security announcements, disclosures, timelines, etc, we at HardenedBSD would like to learn =66rom the experiences of others. The only way to learn from others is to collaborate with them--the true intent of my questions. However, if FreeBSD would not like help with regards to security, or would not like to impart of their wisdom to others, perhaps this would be a good place to end the discussion. Even if you mean well and have the best of intentions, they eat you alive. Thanks and may you have a wonderful weekend, --=20 Shawn Webb Cofounder / Security Engineer HardenedBSD Tor-ified Signal: +1 443-546-8752 Tor+XMPP+OTR: lattera@is.a.hacker.sx GPG Key ID: 0xFF2E67A277F8E1FA GPG Key Fingerprint: D206 BB45 15E0 9C49 0CF9 3633 C85B 0AF8 AB23 0FB2 --drukitpqpgrpce7b Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEA6TL67gupaZ9nzhT/y5nonf44foFAl0fZpkACgkQ/y5nonf4 4fo+3BAAmKRZbDi0azyq3LTsta6OkQpSaYjYJvc1JYjZgVnS89dGdEF8iwxPC2bv zgWDW0o1KkrXqj02IuNKracSJdNy/Oem8av/ju1U1O1+rJe3eLkv4JN/afVDl3h2 IZf6ZWPSEG5GgLkwkZ1E3AZtwAZSEsE2VREGc1bcfWR/OHpayQ5bU5qJ4YX2Y4lE 86sB4Y4Q8o/yQ4VIS77ikFX8ayRYJg40kwgRT2/w8EfFYcRRB937NRIJRH4By+8K NVluHVeUW2zPxY+lEGMA3FcdfRudLUMDVX9nODDoDalorVrEWasK+VJAIXnJCzOF YtlcO5xkOgUVv9O7dXNXySbNK+OD0VmBU4BOYouLpAc5ZH3s+gc/XJw6qO2u9eFm vhb27n5Xh7jO0yDbZQWEpnLQCdcYd3Sb/mdUtU7s0eS81QOhH1jtRXB/FDuzWQ02 b9WK1X24Odzv+KidvLpEQDRvPQlKq2UKD2Xxnpx4nuDXewk+9F/Ipvpx1Rwsi5+o 9OhXpjh6Yuvs7TYyG+0A/KZsI05Q4Je8kIDYW0J3oEetywf7CRID9fN7g0k35dN5 QcIf2deET0IqrlopIp24ofiA7JTgbGcbZa3+lrJI28jBHDXQrzPIdkDqRXq8KGkh D/UVK1F6IJdC8PtIdOcPiW3jonW1+FBImBHbInXXWYSWcFJpilc= =H4bX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --drukitpqpgrpce7b-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 5 15:25:53 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8184915CDA21 for ; 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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:25:53 -0000 > Op 1 jul. 2019, om 18:24 heeft Dale Scott het = volgende geschreven: >=20 > BSD Now episode 259 has a segment on running multiple services using = jails and a single public IP address. It=E2=80=99s on my Todo list to = listen again and re-configure my own server.=20 >=20 > = https://www.freebsdnews.com/2018/08/17/bsd-now-episode-259-long-live-unix/= >=20 This is not going to work for OPs question. I just had a look, and this = podcast basically points to this web page: https://www.davd.io/posts-freebsd-jails-with-a-single-public-ip-address/ = = The writer of this article uses pf to redirect different ports to = different jails, which is fine, assuming that every jail serves = different services (so a jail offering smtp, a jail offering a = webserver, a jail offering mysql), however if you want to have multiple = jails serving a webserver, you only can redirect port 443 (or 80) once. You will need a reverse proxy to redirect services based on the name to = different jails. Shouldn=E2=80=99t be too hard, I guess. 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Feels very t= ransitory. On Thu, 4 Jul 2019, at 12:14, Erwan David wrote: >=20 > Le 04/07/2019 =C3=A0 10:03, Erwan David a =C3=A9crit : > > I got a notification from my nightly freebsd-update cron, that it ha= d > > fetched upgrades to 11.2-RELEASE-p11 > > > > So I did a freebsd-update install, then ezjail-admin update -u > > > > And then I get the message that the mirrors onky have the p10 ? Is t= here > > a problem with p11 ? > > > A new try worked, but on the 3rd mirrir tried. So it seems not all the= > mirrors have the files. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebs= d.org" >=20 =E2=80=94 Dave Cottlehuber +43 67 67 22 44 78 Managing Director Skunkwerks, GmbH http://skunkwerks.at/ ATU70126204 Firmenbuch 410811i From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 5 21:24:25 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58AA715D4F7A; Fri, 5 Jul 2019 21:24:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd44.google.com (mail-io1-xd44.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d44]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF9868A778; Fri, 5 Jul 2019 21:24:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd44.google.com with SMTP id f4so6338994ioh.6; Fri, 05 Jul 2019 14:24:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XVNdXQPAnBN2O/48V4jHqzYpKvyC5qVXpUWTzRXrLQY=; b=pWIq8km1fz5GmdgHuVLVrZTWLgTFCXHYw5Tnt8+yRt8t1jxaVXs+AStxhsCLIdaK6H pE+iyh7C/Hvj4nlIlHkwc+47dkfb+amK+RQAYKpArGb5PdD9mvUCIIsV5tp5TUvQhov4 F7Aae/JCKd0PtB1SaRBE4zSD97UXGUhGFqZSQ1W4ct9D+TP11tbsg0Gg4MfAqOQ6ynP5 crzuZx7bpxl1b2npUFSd35jKPf2ZM6h4KuGQSi62R6+VFXcpwE4OTw8whZCjLjknz92m DhAi3POQu6ro4g8Rp42YxyeOAdqLw2LcJghlgQUYQmcm1YBFIjMlBHMLUlXj1N8mcmUR ZFZg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XVNdXQPAnBN2O/48V4jHqzYpKvyC5qVXpUWTzRXrLQY=; b=UtyKpGUPYTOep7ZITWtBgfU1CXaKvIvVYCEQrup2MNql1MT5FvCogGK/Xmzn6zQFEr AgHkJgkFKCtBwSET14x0ixfem69DG383kF/YcqTTHndD9l01ujV2bj4cTLVMVEVgQ/Kv nq7jDsoLCKd4w4fuZLQqXcfQvumddY3KRQceS6wImcG8QIwMYtEOuXWZIoibzI0UzZ9M xiJKR1Xs3/yy5z2WSsoGEBmS1AbTiAN0S1KuhJt7iGWwE1nT/1CM79nVCAw4NQMQ/lA6 LFEKE8/dbl9DM/11SCHwZd9Z+NB/4HkVl8xzQr5WqJ6Qf+4WbEBO9MybcIi/ApdMZp/f K5BA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX/39H9ZC8rX7paDNOvEdXVNorocrTJoyX7HE7X6Y8UKh/QlIq0 2ESH60KaEiLo3sGE0M8JScXrZGLWjU0VLISUnUROs66d X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyeWqjROikDjezXzZqCdfrbAFmx00SIaFmiYzq/hEWz4LmxsjC6MuH6/yF0BjsnxZ4rediMODctu2FMLBuLZCw= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:9752:: with SMTP id c18mr6578945ioo.22.1562361863828; Fri, 05 Jul 2019 14:24:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a02:81c6:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Jul 2019 14:24:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20190705060652.GA2974@server.rulingia.com> References: <20190705060652.GA2974@server.rulingia.com> From: grarpamp Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 17:24:23 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Review of FreeBSD Security Advisory Process: Incl Heads Up, Dates, Etc [cont: 5599 SACK} To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: DF9868A778 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.93 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.93)[-0.932,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2019 21:24:25 -0000 On 7/5/19, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2019-Jul-04 00:06:10 -0400, grarpamp wrote: >>Continued from beginnings in: >>https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-security/2019-June/009996.htm= l > What benefits would be gained by Some have been, and more can be by others, outlined in the ongoing threads. > Security Officer is a volunteer position and their time is valuable. > requiring them to do more work to provide information Date_Received adding is not "more work" in any real sense. FreeBSD Project knows when it becomes aware of an issue, readily available in the very same email headers, forum post headers, etc... a minute's cut and paste into an Advisory. That's an easy first step. > that is mostly already available elsewhere? In the Subject example, and many others, no. Discovered and Received dates are often not given. >>Date_Discovered: Date of original discovery by discoverer. > This will be in the linked CVE. It is not present in the current CVE or Netflix or FreeBSD infosheets. If some external discoverer wants to play silly and coy with that Date_Discovered info, fine. However once Date_Received occurs as above, FreeBSD project should be denoting its Date_Received. >>Date_Received: Date project received notification (or >>observed any info), regardless from external or internal source. > > How/why is this relevant? Already explained... it is critical datapoint for user base to review evaluate community allocation of resources to appropriate levels of security response. They might choose months, weeks, days. But without Date_Received, everyone is left in dark, and allocations potentially not wherever they should be to meet general needs. > I agree that the project has been ignored > in some cases but that is generally discussed separately. FreeBSD ignored by external fake security purveyors? If that is the meaning, that would be a good thing, hopefully due to FreeBSD doing things toward real security that counter that. >>Issue should also be posted heads up to lists at this Received >>time. > > Definitely not. Early advice of vulnerabilities is very much "need to > know". Utterly False. If you are the owner... user, admin, entity or even customer with data or services running on... a vulnerable system, it is absolutely without question your need to know. Further, if FreeBSD is not posting a heads up upon its Date_Received of what it knows so far, it is putting itself in very questionable position of claiming to knowing best for all when in fact it does not even know for one, instead of rightly setting those decisions off to systems owners as best suits their own needs via heads up post. > Unless someone's expertise is required to rectify the vulnerability, > details regarding the vulnerability should remain private. What external does is up to them. Yet as herein, once it hits FreeBSD's doorstep, FreeBSD's responsibility is to users first and foremost to point of exclusivly. > The discoverers may > choose to publish early information As above, that's upon them and their cred game. Not forgetting that those discoverers that withold often get caught and look silly. > in which case, the Project may choose > to publicly reference that information. If FreeBSD is independant, it can refer and publish whatever it knows, when it knows it. If it is not, then those aspects of FreeBSD need very serious opening up to sunlight and review by the entire community. Same if FreeBSD were subject to "Donation Capture", that would need reviewed extremely closely. > Public announcement dates are generally not under Project control - where= a > vulnerability affects multiple vendors, there is almost always general > agreement on a common announcement date. This is a game, a fake news show meant to make the interviewees look good, typically monied vendors of closed proprietary garbage smelly swiss cheese product, everyone knows it, so just stop. > If the Project leaks information > about unannounced vulnerabilities, it will stop receiving advance > information about vulnerabilities - this definitely will adversely impact > the Project. If FreeBSD is or wants to playing the [vendor] game, wants to become a closed system, subject to such others, etc... it will never be known for pushing the much needed opensource HW and SW philosophy envelope any further ahead into the light through its openness action or even activism. There are enough closed models out there already. Don't let those closed actors fool and play you into their dark traps. FreeBSD hopefully is, and must be, better than that. Here's another example of secrecy serving no one other than dark forces (in this case, literally TLA's and nefarious actors around the world against owners users customers)... https://zerodium.com/program.html FreeBSD LPE is only worth $50,000, that's less than Windows. One can of course discuss in a separate thread the LoC vs Funds vs Usercount vs Fruits of Vuln therein. The the question of what great results from if FreeBSD community and or foundation funds just one fulltime dedicated security reviewer at $50k/yr... and how that news and results might generate more donations in turn... >> Does FreeBSD publish its vulnerability response process documentation? >> If not, would FreeBSD be open to such transparency? > You=E2=80=99re asking volunteers, performing a very time-consuming task, = to do even more work. That would be another great first step. And it's easily done and opened to entire community contribution via the Wiki, such that works doesn't have to come down to just N existing volunteers. 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