From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 24 04:33:42 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6777E1CB084 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 04:33:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "xray.he.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47LHNj2mlKz4qJh for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 04:33:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from 99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:TLSv1.2:Kx=ECDH:Au=RSA:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2019 20:33:35 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: David Christensen Subject: 'ezjail-admin create ...' and "Warning: Some services already seem to be listening on IP ..." Message-ID: <8a0572a5-010e-4301-c3ca-3d3f3700f2ad@holgerdanske.com> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2019 20:33:34 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47LHNj2mlKz4qJh X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com has no SPF policy when checking 184.105.128.27) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.62 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.96)[-0.965,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.56)[ipnet: 184.104.0.0/15(0.74), asn: 6939(-3.50), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.988,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[holgerdanske.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[27.128.105.184.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:184.104.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 04:33:42 -0000 freebsd-questions: I have a newly installed FreeBSD host: 2019-11-23 19:53:00 toor@soho2 ~ # freebsd-version ; uname -a 11.3-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD soho2.tracy.holgerdanske.com 11.3-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 11.3-RELEASE-p5 #0: Tue Nov 12 08:59:04 UTC 2019 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 I would like to run some jailed services using ezjail(7). I have installed and configured ezjail, installed a base jail, created a flavour "cvs", and added the desired IP alias to my host. When I create the jail: 2019-11-23 20:23:14 toor@soho2 ~ # ezjail-admin create -f cvs cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com 192.168.5.19 /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/. /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./etc /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./etc/rc.d /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./etc/rc.d/ezjail.flavour.cvs /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./etc/rc.d/ezjail.flavour.cvs.packages /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./etc/rc.conf 5 blocks find: /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/pkg/: No such file or directory Warning: Some services already seem to be listening on IP 192.168.5.19 This may cause some confusion, here they are: root ntpd 735 27 udp4 192.168.5.19:123 *:* Warning: Some services already seem to be listening on all IP, (including 192.168.5.19) This may cause some confusion, here they are: root ntpd 735 20 udp6 *:123 *:* root ntpd 735 21 udp4 *:123 *:* root syslogd 583 6 udp6 *:514 *:* root syslogd 583 7 udp4 *:514 *:* Do I need to worry about the listening services warnings? If so, what is the best way to resolve them? TIA, David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 24 16:04:54 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A401B32BB for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 16:04:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rizzo@rizzo.eng.br) Received: from server.i805.com.br (mailhost.i805.com.br [50.7.9.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "805 Inform????tica", Issuer "805 Inform????tica" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47LZkF1rZTz49sR for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 16:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rizzo@rizzo.eng.br) Received: from [192.168.0.200] (badda6e3.virtua.com.br [186.221.166.227] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by server.i805.com.br (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id xAOFocog043841 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 24 Nov 2019 13:51:00 -0200 (-02) (envelope-from rizzo@rizzo.eng.br) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=rizzo.eng.br; s=mailhost; t=1574610662; bh=1ufRG+D0tRb7D0OVbE64+8wSsPdET5aTedWVMWY9gpo=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=pEzDFyJAeiKYn+w/l7x3xF3sENmSZ7XgGeGTEzygsWdoZ1FBLBf925VxpVueQUzS3 Ay37XGBlR6S6v//TjhUAc/5aLHWYxDqLKeqPHBCQxG2880CimpyOMha9QPufRrPrhZ dAzqV8dQVQA4JUHdGkLZMixoVDG9YmXKvKNuePcd+d153Z+43k3DI8J0fLR4kRBVFr kvDko5+eKBwBFRE0HfI9HCrXqyXzNbjEtwRKePaJeLnYWWQ/2/HTdrlr5k+D8No70P 1hYLS/ENF7ljszSF4zv4fijpWXEM+ooNV8WzwYejz6C0MXR+6yrbM3rravzJPWaU+v DgJgnfhKDjBoQ== Message-ID: <0b860c6188e90d5f21e48dc6f39cd6dfbe24c335.camel@rizzo.eng.br> Subject: Re: LLVM 9 versus LLVM 8 From: Nilton Jose Rizzo To: "Joe A." , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Polytropon Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 13:03:45 -0300 In-Reply-To: <20191119141914.GA2535@chthonixia.chthonixia.net> References: <20191119031500.GB1012@chthonixia.chthonixia.net> <20191119062705.36cc778f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191119141914.GA2535@chthonixia.chthonixia.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,HELO_MISC_IP,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server.i805.com.br X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47LZkF1rZTz49sR X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=rizzo.eng.br header.s=mailhost header.b=pEzDFyJA; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rizzo@rizzo.eng.br has no SPF policy when checking 50.7.9.75) smtp.mailfrom=rizzo@rizzo.eng.br X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.60 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rizzo.eng.br:s=mailhost]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[227.166.221.186.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[rizzo.eng.br]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.69)[-0.695,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rizzo.eng.br:+]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.42)[-0.420,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(0.32)[asn: 174(1.64), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:174, ipnet:50.7.8.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 16:04:54 -0000 Em ter, 2019-11-19 às 09:19 -0500, Joe A. escreveu: > On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 06:27:05AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > > > If I understand things correctly, situation is the following: > > > > The OS compiler, ... > > > > > > Now I understand. 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Thanks! > >=20 > > Joe >=20 >=20 > It's beautiful but not productive, why all ports not setup to use the > highest version of compiler ( Clang or GCC )? It's up to the port maintainer to define which toolchain they need. In case of C and C++, there is plenty of choice, so you might end up with having 3 versions of GCC and two older versions of Clang/LLVM installed on your machine, just to get something else running. Better explanation: Some code bases explicitely require older versions of build tools because the sources won't build on the most recent version of those tools. On FreeBSD, it is possible to have different versions of a compiler or interpreter installed, so the port maintainer will define the build dependencies as he things it should work. While FreeBSD (the OS) has switched from GCC to Clang/LLVM for its own sources, 3rd party software in the ports collection do not have to make that move - they can still require an older version of GCC. This is quite typical for those ported over from Linux. For example, if you build pdftk, it will first build and install binutils and a specific version of GCC; if you then build wine, a different version of GCC will be added. And if you build and install ffmpeg with lame support, it will install several Python packages - both for 2.x and 3.x. Yes, this isn't beautiful, but sadly sufficiently productive. ;-) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 24 17:41:57 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2DD1B5701 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 17:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47LctD5Zy8z4GGq for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 17:41:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.8.36.103]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MBlpC-1iggCH1TNk-00CET8 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 18:41:49 +0100 Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 18:41:47 +0100 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Audio mixer settings for recording with a microphone Message-Id: <20191124184147.a374384d.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:O0W0ukBatN2aMIJRumJXJWS/gPYnWUOzE71fPPMYPUJ9m0J635G 4zCf41z6NL9ZuOzk1wbujqvxM8glafC5nUdjy41zP3xmLsaGRKZ00Pbkxd7b8K6DVTZOTSJ SLuWPwNG2VCSeaN5lgGlbMuSa2YKmYT+PpXMXU3E1+BAtlDE6P1/R9lcXYQf23x7MtYrnMN 6ZxE91vPcp2d0hALMBH3w== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:ctvAuluMzEU=:5/QIzozsojyLsMy9SnqU1A osQP5DfDuWpdAkYyiB9pcmJJhd4wqiswYl23mJThVicLKpblRadxcA/PyKy5woLT2FTSQxwdY CfDHqHwZxspoREf9FIiiyjJKGicuDknHh4l++kecwYh/iFf2t6flnBDin3NQu2WsIZQadO4A5 RZkUzyhFhEK78J1kwEjUdLLzUrFRdx3Ta42GgB48DanYprCiwE1X35j9CSXnEEkMEfhHaXRj9 HdX8JAHlSC8dif3QtSZmyCflbFHxlW6kDUacB/HgE8VUwYMQI7BJhP4rBQi2Q6V73hiW/bYbF XCljiCZXoXBq5EsRUV34cCwKav9Ut7rDXizehs+PhYuDCLwq2BRtmd9D+xcXWNnaJUXlcli1C U4at+6YLL/0dvke9QF6AKAoeSMNmCcq/6s5Cv7cQxnxpyUAeolsZj/gXftuuisimsBy9ENdhl +HXY+LR1PnIc9f1fm2/dV1KYSnqy3HS49RVTw0eRNiyO3pFcmFHWOcMN/vYPYVPFQ6K1Nru5W h0PjIvUDm1BL+GuHR8/WNJY8i6UGO2QJv0tdhvvxh9oInHxeDPRKs9CTi9uSPQ7zrMVQ0F3LX 30zUKSvT7lDGPrEtZQw6SnjqfwcTeevbXY+a+1GO2UZ38byef0Rv14+4mXgxh3CzIKfxSfknk rHIpyZzNLczPNhFGVNfVAwcdgAtm6j6y9/sr8qUQGmDIobuIjWaPqfIlVjePpe+NovVSp//xw xWv0eMyCX5Rde1gpaerJ6Cmp2uPT7ZcYi2EGHBT9Pvuc55dVcn4KiXLfrwKlDk7LSdyB3F9pi q3RpLKc2vE0r2AGTF05ZCq+79Wx2g3DNDp9MhS+jNIDwaDzAKz9LX1AbxUy/FrcO3r7dlTpMp 7N+By97KlUdkgdLjMpiA== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47LctD5Zy8z4GGq X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 217.72.192.75) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.82 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[103.36.8.178.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.997,0]; IP_SCORE(0.43)[ip: (-0.41), ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(0.26), asn: 8560(2.30), country: DE(-0.01)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.994,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[75.192.72.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 17:41:57 -0000 Currently I have the following problem: I'd like to record something to a file using a microphone. I have the following sound hardware in my el-cheapo home PC: % dmesg | grep pcm pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm1: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm2: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 That is a built-in sound system (located on the mainboard). % cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2009061500/i386) Installed devices: pcm0: (play/rec) default pcm1: (rec) pcm2: (play) I have one 3.5mm mic input on the rear and one on the front of the system. The rear one doesn't seem to work at all. The front one seems to work, but there is more "background noise" (ca. 1 kHz sawtooth shape + 1 octave higher "beeeeeeeeeeeeep" kind of sound, which I can hear on the headphones). If I do record something (I use audacity), the signal level is very low, and there is more "interference" beep than "used signal". I can control the noise with the last 5% of the levels using the "mic", "igain" and "monitor" control, but the anticipated signal level doesn't really change. My suspicion: I'm doing something wrong with the mixer, but I cannot see what it is... On my old system, I never had such problems - I would simply attach the microphone, increase "mic" as needed, and I could use sox's "rec" command to obtain the audio needed. I put a CMI soundcard (PCI-based) into that system, which FreeBSD did perfectly support. For testing, I set the mixer as follows (important settings marked with an arrow): % mixer -f /dev/mixer0 Mixer vol is currently set to 100:100 Mixer pcm is currently set to 100:100 Mixer line is currently set to 0:0 Mixer mic is currently set to 100:100 <--- Mixer cd is currently set to 0:0 Mixer rec is currently set to 0:0 Mixer igain is currently set to 100:100 <--- Mixer monitor is currently set to 100:100 <--- Recording source: mic <--- % mixer -f /dev/mixer1 Mixer rec is currently set to 100:100 Mixer monitor is currently set to 100:100 Recording source: monitor % mixer -f /dev/mixer2 Mixer vol is currently set to 0:0 Mixer pcm is currently set to 0:0 It does not work, as described above. I tried several microphones. Electret microphones don't work at all. Dynamic microphones do work, but far too low level. I've checked them with a semi-pro mixer system - the mikes work just fine, sufficient level. I chose the one with the "best" signal, RFT DM-2413M. Do "modern" PCs (this one is older than 10 years!) require a pre-amplifier for a microphone? I assume, if I try to connect the mike to the mixer, and the mixer to the line-in of the PC, it won't work as well... but that's the next thing I will try, as I can select "line" as recording inout as well. Never touch a running system. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[209.85.167.181]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y23sm1675317oih.17.2019.11.24.09.45.30 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 24 Nov 2019 09:45:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-oi1-f181.google.com with SMTP id l20so11005872oie.10 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 09:45:30 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:aca:cdc1:: with SMTP id d184mr20672099oig.45.1574617530344; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 09:45:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191124184147.a374384d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20191124184147.a374384d.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 18:45:18 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audio mixer settings for recording with a microphone To: Polytropon Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47LcyP1wR8z4GXK X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=L/G9ZowV; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::236) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.92 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[6.3.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(-2.62)[ip: (-8.83), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.28), asn: 15169(-1.96), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 17:45:34 -0000 Hey Poly :-) Something has changed in audio system and I have to set mixer1 values in order for my mic to work, have you tried that? :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 24 18:01:31 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987E71B608A for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 18:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47LdJp4ykJz4HXG for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 18:01:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.8.36.103]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MTRIg-1iP0Y51iW4-00Tnl3; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 19:01:25 +0100 Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 19:01:21 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Audio mixer settings for recording with a microphone Message-Id: <20191124190121.3dd8b4d9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20191124184147.a374384d.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:P2dY7QKjXjABBgsHL6De49LHufDojDSFPNj7oQHlNvLOTJ6c/EU EU0RwqHV3uMrHdMTQ2u930FyIxjtE1SSMzgkThUXrjsGtROgcMYmvr2B2hKx7aIGlqBhpIw +yAeLGsc59cLEHX8AxuWlOl6AJ+56HSejTxtVIU31kEKZX24msZErjy/VKLnAXeeYxIbvSl SifO7l4XIAorVs8s6jigQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:1vv6YR/dQXE=:kkMAYLTYNqsxd4FOJ5JT5t nAJDbIs660JNXNsPnC2R1LUpkJ4lTFegYLLJHiCJILtna855f5YBKS3hiohUMUaVx7Ug9yFm+ guDWlcPbD4C1HoCNh3TPpgGE5BNKXtRaNe/mrnSyy2kvUce6+00cQjNm9NzA+PtCzA+4Z2pPa Qj7S5wf0p7oMNk9xvR0TsBkHsEKptHdGS24t65sL1X5GpYpPCwHK1kBplh27rHPkvuRfBVqyH vvZ/OX1sdRbbhxBzvt2MAx8Gq72tTh7l6IUUMOzZxOSR46PEjYSS4Dpk3FTOZURlHZIrxV/CL Rqu+YTQLaPDAqOn1JYmMoAxDrYc1xne4BpkWcSuGPHLUGhBzGnE3JDMDPB+mVjxdXTWt6EIqF eLQB6kQR1EUIQR+fxRDmsU/ORYp7BAcweeMvqAJRZ9vr/cz8/eq4637f2F3mDhx/+tHZt8f4h 7A0Ogl0xgPGqQVQDYLpvdQKmBwaBEzNX9TPBU68SZCCOnU+BgV1LVJQNO6UG732HAxkzed0Mc 9pLjVArjCS7WoM04OGco5qU+o2bweoDjNhLgp80CxnB1JOjuvIjhrWK3WfBKBSOKMcxvsHR+i jg0xZEPM8+gXdChuwsyaPlpN9f7AE+dJQpKrnx6CIokzEh8WEuJLxuhJPT1ZUwctFm+FnbEVw t86LJoFRVP79lr/Q/P7dEKxCISy9mUfp1jE5y0DqL1qvQmFZ8N3if7WkBP3mKigN0w5hb4owG 5AkbrWZu78oIonCEWxrL3TVcYbfEBdiGdCGh2mBQqy6H+44fVA91TV49t6dixNDBS+ih3xU7M zM2vdFMqV2HoRbZI4niy/iTPbWGWh4goohctKJOFYfmlrJ0f9+2dtNRjsFzfmjJxI9+mzmQja 2SUpKXvLW1CE5bhtUj4Q== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47LdJp4ykJz4HXG X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.17.24) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.41 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[103.36.8.178.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.97)[0.969,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.91)[0.911,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[24.17.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.13)[ip: (-0.37), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.24), asn: 8560(2.30), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 18:01:31 -0000 On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 18:45:18 +0100, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > Something has changed in audio system and I have to set mixer1 values in > order for my mic to work, have you tried that? :-) I don't have a "mic" in mixer1, but "rec", and I set that to 100 as well; I cannot change the recording source for mixer1, so it keeps being "monitor" (as it's the only device listed as a recording device). This is the current setting for all mixers present on the system (relevant ones marked with an arrow). % mixer -f /dev/mixer0 Mixer vol is currently set to 100:100 Mixer pcm is currently set to 100:100 Mixer line is currently set to 0:0 Mixer mic is currently set to 100:100 <--- Mixer cd is currently set to 0:0 Mixer rec is currently set to 0:0 Mixer igain is currently set to 100:100 <--- Mixer monitor is currently set to 100:100 <--- Recording source: mic <--- % mixer -f /dev/mixer1 Mixer rec is currently set to 100:100 Mixer monitor is currently set to 100:100 Recording source: monitor % mixer -f /dev/mixer2 Mixer vol is currently set to 0:0 Mixer pcm is currently set to 0:0 It's sad to see that several things stop working during the course of advancement of FreeBSD, things that worked reliably for decades... :-/ -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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I have following devices: /dev/dsp1 /dev/dsp2 Monitor of /dev/dsp0 Monitor of /dev/dsp1 Monitor of /dev/dsp2 My WindowManager Enlightenment uses PulseAudio for sound routing.. Hope that helps.. -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 24 22:51:46 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D64C1BE879 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 22:51:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from plmahan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vs1-xe35.google.com (mail-vs1-xe35.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e35]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Lllj0xSZz4bSk for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 22:51:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from plmahan@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vs1-xe35.google.com with SMTP id a143so8742421vsd.9 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 14:51:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=DPlhKpNpTNhfQ/FZM0eff5xMkzFk3WfHiWasn8ZHCP4=; b=pYNPlcLX670E0PTnQPE0m9RlbKLkmp6GnYsZkXldWcop4NQ2KOLj44DFQG1KMlibJT XZeESQUOVQQr3ALPHmNRsXOd9r+pNuMZ65UkUwoGjil1Uax1vqLOSXOuW1tXrEb5r8hS G1rr3FIIH9LLrNMTjAWa6HiNdJ0OaKSIk4vyIJIk80gduF8qV23jhgxBtmaUa6EezlDf dBHx7bmrofEodHh7At4LYS0ROVk1URt2B8HgXfsxhbYIGQUtCBCXZWviHR7iZMgO/5sn G6svIpXk8+ND9BFwhMH2MyespGMv0QyGMCVq9wiwFiR0Lyxz2/IXNViovhiLwk5PUAJe 0WYA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=DPlhKpNpTNhfQ/FZM0eff5xMkzFk3WfHiWasn8ZHCP4=; b=VnR5gRl9MryBa7BE86FbKm77yNkIsE8soaFQHs98jLAnmv/IAxbr2vdQmrWslMtHCJ katzqtrqOUAbW5ehVTnsRiLsHJ0+oJ+qcWV8bdp99O6HJJZD4QXmy9pyGxnyY1VY6BjJ NhIqbgLB5rHww3n8vbmuD9k43vRrLNi2mCuyxiaOvR+SR0af05rUbYECoK1xNTKUPp6K gCEVqGLy4CQZVmTDB3nXx9QHhuf2T1WeD5QQTHiidzvpX2KdVusjI/PNliVScF7xB3xz zdCa83+dhbO86wuSL02hL4B+7TIKh31p2bPrrm+wvkfKyKHvhu0ogTH6KlSOvkxKZLEK S3aw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAU77iybai8WIOp/ZLMHHX8MjM10f8E5Mqd5RpguhzIkft14JiQL kXdDbK0/mwwNWbHaPq0r7JoCTnVUC+btow2MnGDI+g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwHtxfh1habu0wvHxY3UbvrQKsOkPZRF+fRsMdJIl/CCDIXLRcthr9N4W8REiwWQ2DAhX/Y/C2T8CqtZ+qkzv0= X-Received: by 2002:a67:d802:: with SMTP id e2mr19135824vsj.221.1574635903564; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 14:51:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Patrick Mahan Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 14:51:32 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Ports nvidia driver vs NVIDIA provided driver To: User Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Lllj0xSZz4bSk X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=pYNPlcLX; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of plmahan@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::e35 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=plmahan@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.03), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.28), asn: 15169(-1.96), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[5.3.e.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 22:51:46 -0000 I have an older GeForce GTS 450. For years after every OS upgrade I have unpacked the latest tar file from NVIDIA that contains the driver supporting my graphics card, built and installed and keep on going. Now, once I upgraded to 12.1 the default compiler is clang, not gcc. And not surprisingly the rebuild of the driver is failing. A couple of questions: First, should I stay with the code from Nvidia or go with the Nvidia support in the X11 packages? Secondly, has anyone successfully built the Nvidia FreeBSD x86_64 390.116 driver on FreeBSD 12.1? With clang or gcc? Just trying to make my life easier :-) Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 24 23:00:57 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 500541BECA9 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 23:00:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd35.google.com (mail-io1-xd35.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d35]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47LlyJ1wvRz4bq5 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 23:00:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd35.google.com with SMTP id i11so3197043ioi.12 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 15:00:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Ps1E+ZQ/m8aaqlXv6+T/kOr5P2OIc4495lzXKL9+am4=; b=dRu0ceZJsI94g6mq6AzKJ14VxptiRhaAlGlWMd+xczq8qZl3O+BMHjbAebxTRHWPtr KHWbYqQza/mprhZJPpArSnkVQQobEdf7Y8QatF9T8CYX7JPSc8D37NblKTCBnXxz1iIS IX0CkyHOSv/WhlQgE6YZ3Wg+Xq7L49hryJAsM+DfURrEE04C/V+qs6XNg5qf5unJyUTv PC4TZsnpEyhBINb9BzF6gM7FM3P4sjWZ6dtVUuPPAKbGbOwwgsZztbe9gI5LXIX3XPsX B4u3dVGn8fNSxORPxUDIppPKnH+BhR211zPyBbak43QIXqG2ETzszGQsbawno82sYeTG /LQw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Ps1E+ZQ/m8aaqlXv6+T/kOr5P2OIc4495lzXKL9+am4=; b=XQ6M/tmLqZEOJBKjV3MTC4cq8wokSNWJSF0JzblKxOehzg/jCqEK0xfLJJ+J7FFvn6 gTkgdA89vzIXZ54FLGCEcXsgRB8jccr+WrUVwIOXWEGx13pQuCTOEpSf4nxgbBRy2iex XMdXdr+tiDtv4AHmnwD9sZpm0OXrDnH3/KiE7wTbDVImwHmpEBU7T0sF09LO1dC0rBK/ f5hYRdtFhfawHK+6mMYauisxlmmL/fJMiAsvuch+N4sXtICNSmX3mOPiLwneYWrFPcyZ 5edFU2lWNgKpp4whACYm29iHIaFIYTWPUXg8dT7IPZMGPcAnil29hCoidGPmBSOv4P0A pkLw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWz6Nxjj1J74daIVPbI4rUHFv6gSoL1dRXeDomKGbHr4h3b3ogw flrtPpmyPVNGNKmyto0Cx2COeZDf07C6GSON0AE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzmTWKG/Ldnu6ex6cC3Q1NblTPbgXO/EJK0mee3afMPbsHnC1jL3n2kOD4epX8IL/63ukAU+9m4IVXUmJPQIBw= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:e701:: with SMTP id b1mr23036563ioh.119.1574636454782; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 15:00:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 18:00:43 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ports nvidia driver vs NVIDIA provided driver To: Patrick Mahan Cc: User Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47LlyJ1wvRz4bq5 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=dRu0ceZJ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d35 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-6.42), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.28), asn: 15169(-1.96), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[5.3.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 23:00:57 -0000 On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 5:51 PM Patrick Mahan wrote: > I have an older GeForce GTS 450. For years after every OS upgrade I have > unpacked the latest tar file from NVIDIA that contains the driver > supporting my graphics card, built and installed and keep on going. > My GeForce GTS 750 works fine with the latest x11/nvidia-driver and it compiles with no issue at all on 12.1. If your not used to the newer driver you might want to read up on how to load it (you want to load modeset not the the raw driver for example). 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For years after every OS upgrade I have >> unpacked the latest tar file from NVIDIA that contains the driver >> supporting my graphics card, built and installed and keep on going. >> > > My GeForce GTS 750 works fine with the latest x11/nvidia-driver and it > compiles with no issue at all on 12.1. If your not used to the newer > driver you might want to read up on how to load it (you want to load > modeset not the the raw driver for example). > > > I'm not referring to building the x11/nvidia-driver, but building the driver you can get directly from Nvidia - NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86_64-390.116.tar.gz I am wondering if I should bother working out how to build it in favor of just using the x11/nvidia-driver package. 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For years after every OS upgrade I have >>> unpacked the latest tar file from NVIDIA that contains the driver >>> supporting my graphics card, built and installed and keep on going. >>> >> >> My GeForce GTS 750 works fine with the latest x11/nvidia-driver and it >> compiles with no issue at all on 12.1. If your not used to the newer >> driver you might want to read up on how to load it (you want to load >> modeset not the the raw driver for example). >> >> >> I'm not referring to building the x11/nvidia-driver, but building the > driver you can get directly from Nvidia - > > NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86_64-390.116.tar.gz > There is *ZERO* difference between the one you can download and the one in ports. -- Aryeh M. 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For years after every OS upgrade I >>>> have >>>> unpacked the latest tar file from NVIDIA that contains the driver >>>> supporting my graphics card, built and installed and keep on going. >>>> >>> >>> My GeForce GTS 750 works fine with the latest x11/nvidia-driver and it >>> compiles with no issue at all on 12.1. If your not used to the newer >>> driver you might want to read up on how to load it (you want to load >>> modeset not the the raw driver for example). >>> >>> >>> I'm not referring to building the x11/nvidia-driver, but building the >> driver you can get directly from Nvidia - >> > >> NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86_64-390.116.tar.gz >> > > There is *ZERO* difference between the one you can download and the one in > ports. > > Hmm, hadn't realized those had been added. I guess I should have done some more reading, I had assume (incorrectly) these were the nv driver which didn't support the full Nvidia functionality. Cool one less worry. Thanks, Patrick > > -- > Aryeh M. 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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <8a0572a5-010e-4301-c3ca-3d3f3700f2ad@holgerdanske.com> From: David Christensen Message-ID: <6fb48705-0e2b-222c-018c-c8b7695295ee@holgerdanske.com> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 20:12:36 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8a0572a5-010e-4301-c3ca-3d3f3700f2ad@holgerdanske.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Ltt03594z3QLy X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com has no SPF policy when checking 184.105.128.27) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.59 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.944,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.56)[ipnet: 184.104.0.0/15(0.74), asn: 6939(-3.51), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.986,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[holgerdanske.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[27.128.105.184.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:184.104.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 04:12:41 -0000 On 11/23/19 8:33 PM, David Christensen wrote: > freebsd-questions: > > I have a newly installed FreeBSD host: > > 2019-11-23 19:53:00 toor@soho2 ~ > # freebsd-version ; uname -a > 11.3-RELEASE-p5 > FreeBSD soho2.tracy.holgerdanske.com 11.3-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD > 11.3-RELEASE-p5 #0: Tue Nov 12 08:59:04 UTC 2019 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64 > > > I would like to run some jailed services using ezjail(7).  I have > installed and configured ezjail, installed a base jail, created a > flavour "cvs", and added the desired IP alias to my host.  When I create > the jail: > > 2019-11-23 20:23:14 toor@soho2 ~ > # ezjail-admin create -f cvs cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com 192.168.5.19 > /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/. > /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./etc > /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./etc/rc.d > /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./etc/rc.d/ezjail.flavour.cvs > /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./etc/rc.d/ezjail.flavour.cvs.packages > > /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./etc/rc.conf > 5 blocks > find: /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/pkg/: No such file or directory > Warning: Some services already seem to be listening on IP 192.168.5.19 >   This may cause some confusion, here they are: > root     ntpd       735   27 udp4   192.168.5.19:123      *:* > Warning: Some services already seem to be listening on all IP, > (including 192.168.5.19) >   This may cause some confusion, here they are: > root     ntpd       735   20 udp6   *:123                 *:* > root     ntpd       735   21 udp4   *:123                 *:* > root     syslogd    583   6  udp6   *:514                 *:* > root     syslogd    583   7  udp4   *:514                 *:* > > > Do I need to worry about the listening services warnings?  If so, what > is the best way to resolve them? I noted that both the ezjail web site and the FreeBSD handbook install ezjail from ports, while I installed the binary package: http://erdgeist.org/arts/software/ezjail/ https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/jails-ezjail.html So, I removed ezjail: 2019-11-24 19:12:07 toor@soho2 ~ # pkg delete ezjail Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) Deinstallation has been requested for the following 1 packages (of 0 packages in the universe): Installed packages to be REMOVED: ezjail-3.4.2_1 Number of packages to be removed: 1 Proceed with deinstalling packages? [y/N]: y [1/1] Deinstalling ezjail-3.4.2_1... You may need to manually remove /usr/local/etc/ezjail.conf if it is no longer needed. [1/1] Deleting files for ezjail-3.4.2_1: 100% I also removed the ezjail configuration file as suggested: 2019-11-24 19:17:32 toor@soho2 ~ # rm /usr/local/etc/ezjail.conf remove /usr/local/etc/ezjail.conf? y I then logged out from toor (Bash shell), logged in as root (C shell), and tried to follow along with the handbook. Cloned interface "lo1" already exists: root@soho2:~ # ifconfig lo1 lo1: flags=8008 metric 0 mtu 16384 options=680003 nd6 options=29 groups: lo Install ezjail (from ports, not binary package): root@soho2:~ # echo $SHELL /bin/csh root@soho2:~ # cd /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail root@soho2:/usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail # make install clean ===> ezjail-3.4.2_1 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found => ezjail-3.4.2.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. => Attempting to fetch http://erdgeist.org/arts/software/ezjail/ezjail-3.4.2.tar.bz2 ezjail-3.4.2.tar.bz2 37 kB 202 kBps 00s ===> Fetching all distfiles required by ezjail-3.4.2_1 for building ===> Extracting for ezjail-3.4.2_1 => SHA256 Checksum OK for ezjail-3.4.2.tar.bz2. ===> Patching for ezjail-3.4.2_1 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for ezjail-3.4.2_1 ===> Configuring for ezjail-3.4.2_1 ===> Building for ezjail-3.4.2_1 ===> Staging for ezjail-3.4.2_1 ===> Generating temporary packing list mkdir -p /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail/work/stage/usr/local/etc/ezjail/ /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail/work/stage/usr/local/man/man5/ /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail/work/stage/usr/local/man/man7 /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail/work/stage/usr/local/man/man8 /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail/work/stage/usr/local/etc/rc.d/ /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail/work/stage/usr/local/bin/ /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail/work/stage/usr/local/share/examples/ezjail /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail/work/stage/usr/local/share/zsh/site-functions cp -R examples/example /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail/work/stage/usr/local/share/examples/ezjail/ cp -R examples/nullmailer-example /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail/work/stage/usr/local/share/examples/ezjail/ cp -R share/zsh/site-functions/ /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail/work/stage/usr/local/share/zsh/site-functions/ sed s:EZJAIL_PREFIX:/usr/local: ezjail.conf.sample > /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail/work/stage/usr/local/etc/ezjail.conf.sample sed s:EZJAIL_PREFIX:/usr/local: ezjail.sh > /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail/work/stage/usr/local/etc/rc.d/ezjail sed s:EZJAIL_PREFIX:/usr/local: ezjail-admin > /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail/work/stage/usr/local/bin/ezjail-admin sed s:EZJAIL_PREFIX:/usr/local: man8/ezjail-admin.8 > /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail/work/stage/usr/local/man/man8/ezjail-admin.8 sed s:EZJAIL_PREFIX:/usr/local: man5/ezjail.conf.5 > /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail/work/stage/usr/local/man/man5/ezjail.conf.5 sed s:EZJAIL_PREFIX:/usr/local: man7/ezjail.7 > /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail/work/stage/usr/local/man/man7/ezjail.7 chmod 755 /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail/work/stage/usr/local/etc/rc.d/ezjail /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail/work/stage/usr/local/bin/ezjail-admin chmod 0440 /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail/work/stage/usr/local/share/examples/ezjail/example/usr/local/etc/sudoers ====> Compressing man pages (compress-man) ===> Installing for ezjail-3.4.2_1 ===> Checking if ezjail is already installed ===> Registering installation for ezjail-3.4.2_1 Installing ezjail-3.4.2_1... ===> Cleaning for ezjail-3.4.2_1 Nuke ezjail basejail and newjail: root@soho2:~ # zfs destroy -r soho2_zroot/usr/jails/basejail root@soho2:~ # zfs destroy -r soho2_zroot/usr/jails/newjail ezjail already enabled in rc.conf: root@soho2:~ # grep ezjail /etc/rc.conf ezjail_enable="YES" Start ezjail service: root@soho2:~ # service ezjail start ezjail Perform initial ezjail setup: root@soho2:~ # ezjail-admin install -p base.txz 112 MB 3357 kBps 34s lib32.txz 23 MB 3473 kBps 07s src component not installed, skipped Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 11.3-RELEASE from update2.freebsd.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. The following files will be updated as part of updating to 11.3-RELEASE-p5: /bin/freebsd-version /boot/loader /boot/loader.efi /usr/jails/basejail/usr/lib32/libgssapi_krb5.so.10 /usr/jails/basejail/usr/lib32/libsmb.a /usr/jails/basejail/usr/lib32/libosmcomp.so 180002 blocks Note: a non-standard /etc/make.conf was copied to the template jail in order to get the ports collection running inside jails. Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 6 mirrors found. Fetching public key from metapeer.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. Fetching snapshot tag from metapeer.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. Fetching snapshot metadata... done. Fetching snapshot generated at Sun Nov 24 16:21:30 PST 2019: 5b7ede0afbd64b2d0ce6bff7add18d8cfec4d71499cbe8 84 MB 1875 kBps 46s Extracting snapshot... done. Verifying snapshot integrity... done. Fetching snapshot tag from metapeer.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. Fetching snapshot metadata... done. Updating from Sun Nov 24 16:21:30 PST 2019 to Sun Nov 24 19:04:16 PST 2019. Fetching 5 metadata patches... done. Applying metadata patches... done. Fetching 0 metadata files... done. Fetching 11 patches. (11/11) 100.00% done. done. Applying patches... done. Fetching 1 new ports or files... done. /usr/jails/basejail/usr/ports/.arcconfig /usr/jails/basejail/usr/ports/.gitattributes /usr/jails/basejail/usr/ports/.gitauthors /usr/jails/basejail/usr/ports/x11/yeahconsole/ /usr/jails/basejail/usr/ports/x11/yelp/ /usr/jails/basejail/usr/ports/x11/zenity/ Building new INDEX files... done. Create a jail: root@soho2:~ # ezjail-admin create cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com 'lo1|127.0.1.1,em0|192.168.5.19' /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/. /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./boot /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./libexec /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./etc/ssl /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./etc/ssl/openssl.cnf /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./etc/csh.cshrc 12123 blocks Warning: Some services already seem to be listening on all IP, (including 127.0.1.1) This may cause some confusion, here they are: root ntpd 857 20 udp6 *:123 *:* root ntpd 857 21 udp4 *:123 *:* root syslogd 705 6 udp6 *:514 *:* root syslogd 705 7 udp4 *:514 *:* Warning: Some services already seem to be listening on IP 192.168.5.19 This may cause some confusion, here they are: root ntpd 857 23 udp4 192.168.5.19:123 *:* Warning: Some services already seem to be listening on all IP, (including 192.168.5.19) This may cause some confusion, here they are: root ntpd 857 20 udp6 *:123 *:* root ntpd 857 21 udp4 *:123 *:* root syslogd 705 6 udp6 *:514 *:* root syslogd 705 7 udp4 *:514 *:* More of the same problems. Any suggestions? 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compile (true) AT&T assembler files, with embedded / delimited comments ? 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Will the compiler in current FreeBSD do what I want please ? If it will also accept (pre-ANSI) K&R Whitebook C that would be even better. Note I am not a newbie! great weekend and regards,                           Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 25 05:47:15 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08E11C9562 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 05:47:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@gojira.at) Received: from mail.bsd4all.net (mail.bsd4all.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:13b:240c::25]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.bsd4all.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Lwz627mRz3ykP for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 05:47:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@gojira.at) Received: from lap01.home.lan (unknown [IPv6:2a02:1748:f71:380:39d7:148d:8464:2d4f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-384) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail.bsd4all.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47Lwyz6kkBzkYk for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 06:47:07 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=gojira.at; s=mail201809; t=1574660828; bh=pNGgQqYERUEXoEyRpfZ6Akx0zVpcUB1yKWZfYOdbI84=; h=Date:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hbIY46vUIuGKnqUrfSq7ai8tBuzBa//J/JeCjlm4LXu1USKTnPTFSPK01DuLPLolU tPhTqzZy9Tdi4rdXxlAgabEEQcMrpMrRWhi7Qqp+CaB+9Qkn9oEnTHNPzNm+z0mPUd riRTw4/mQonLC3rx4tB5+Xdzueb70y00d07I7kJDPmcpXkU1eFXfg7l5yMxqgnY/kk h1XBuRBQPzn0d6ZrN6QME0udpc3hFwFRe75jtY5Y8hilaF+koQhe+l7QEYC218lT5T lSc37Bo9hJOO2ojLx+02Q1WX+ADwLmgJlztr7Tajrv3XMXAq8k4KtNpuJDuHWRtOEM k8ua+mD51+lmQ== Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 06:46:53 +0100 Message-ID: <878so4v776.wl-herbert@gojira.at> From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'ezjail-admin create ...' and "Warning: Some services already seem to be listening on IP ..." In-Reply-To: <8a0572a5-010e-4301-c3ca-3d3f3700f2ad@holgerdanske.com> References: <8a0572a5-010e-4301-c3ca-3d3f3700f2ad@holgerdanske.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/27.0 Mule/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Lwz627mRz3ykP X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gojira.at header.s=mail201809 header.b=hbIY46vU; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of herbert@gojira.at designates 2a01:4f8:13b:240c::25 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=herbert@gojira.at X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.28 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gojira.at:s=mail201809]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a01:4f8:13b:240c::25]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[gojira.at]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gojira.at:+]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-0.78)[ipnet: 2a01:4f8::/29(-2.33), asn: 24940(-1.58), country: DE(-0.01)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:2a01:4f8::/29, country:DE]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 05:47:15 -0000 On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 05:33:34 +0100, David Christensen wrote: > > freebsd-questions: > > I have a newly installed FreeBSD host: > > 2019-11-23 19:53:00 toor@soho2 ~ > # freebsd-version ; uname -a > 11.3-RELEASE-p5 > FreeBSD soho2.tracy.holgerdanske.com 11.3-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD > 11.3-RELEASE-p5 #0: Tue Nov 12 08:59:04 UTC 2019 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > > I would like to run some jailed services using ezjail(7). I have > installed and configured ezjail, installed a base jail, created a > flavour "cvs", and added the desired IP alias to my host. When I > create the jail: > > 2019-11-23 20:23:14 toor@soho2 ~ > # ezjail-admin create -f cvs cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com 192.168.5.19 > /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/. > /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./etc > /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./etc/rc.d > /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./etc/rc.d/ezjail.flavour.cvs > /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./etc/rc.d/ezjail.flavour.cvs.packages > /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./etc/rc.conf > 5 blocks > find: /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/pkg/: No such file or directory > Warning: Some services already seem to be listening on IP 192.168.5.19 > This may cause some confusion, here they are: > root ntpd 735 27 udp4 192.168.5.19:123 *:* > Warning: Some services already seem to be listening on all IP, > (including 192.168.5.19) > This may cause some confusion, here they are: > root ntpd 735 20 udp6 *:123 *:* > root ntpd 735 21 udp4 *:123 *:* > root syslogd 583 6 udp6 *:514 *:* > root syslogd 583 7 udp4 *:514 *:* > > > Do I need to worry about the listening services warnings? If so, what > is the best way to resolve them? You should read "Setting up the Host Environment" from jail(8). But are you trying to run ntpd on both the host and the jail? Why? -- Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 25 11:13:11 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CB91A8D83 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 11:13:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.74]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47M4CB1pMmz4Jfd for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 11:13:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([188.102.96.95]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mwfeu-1hbAkm2JJ4-00y67u; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 12:13:02 +0100 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 12:12:55 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Subject: Re: Audio mixer settings for recording with a microphone Message-Id: <20191125121255.97aac1e9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20191124184147.a374384d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191124190121.3dd8b4d9.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:OtF89Fvkvcy8qRRJnurQKVMYqKduZQdTtgoiYHgrUaWWdSTP5bj e2dn0zjj+NNN5BoLoHNPXTAg2GWgt857LlmJ/Hx1LGIHMTPTUGqGXB4SiWTZaZP+wk150Yq X0MoHMZoANjsHivhKcEzpXhmZnm+M9m2ahcHMP8dXnIkWed7hIdemFgW0sUcK4rEGpuRmaY +0xMjEuUIqNlpukjb5UOw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:XxmXJKIj4GY=:ZeQG9ZT2p3qf4WL7XwyCou 2Kmtf0Zg+49kBLqkqEjFp0ZT//MT5S7dqlzOJgb8xkkkYbo5pM5iH6LRvO47V1IoCHFBFTq8c yXggOv4gDOx4wLGsBoZuX1y94QKF+nfSE1xT9In+0JnX15ETWw2K+/2ojaQJGXwKMupjfWyrQ SxWUkdtvHgy/YXKQ9ded1TQ9GOIsyusv0uZGte7DyFvk7S2uyGF4iJtSD5APxZL/hnNzTrHxo ESAbQxMjiOxUDfxiG6OlIRtgv9wLD7KKdb0fPudvkMX/5i947ykduV69l525/Il6gN+14Zwy+ 1RQPfwmdyYgOMxK5c7CY8f2py6mlMisD8SlzDehM7aeso0mkk11lTrROgDc/+Cjafxb773lMR FmguRHXmp/HCm+hmkZYg1UfBvlJF+dKSwQuSj0++YmCzE6OjNx7+DmCYsMf14Bp9s2d0axnyp f04o2ObBicceNmFf9uHmykKn7U2JoH8aZKEGZE6IjEKrRBpAQibqpgpJqdqxxVSP/CNE4ZEVr dmaakXwhqvdZjFK8fEH14oGtHDDRO5cEGLSivvJP9mpyu37MrmrvYjt76SspS+d/ZbgJxmJMC 66ihSMPuDkDoejcXQxS/WrkXlPN1QTXhld64U8coc/Y4dxyjeF37HJdt4JFf09TIhJogKczTG OhbkDXZECDtaUgzka8ac3NnNzdd7OO8LmGXp01hfNbEikUVE/SXYU4f9SDpRBe6ogUJh/cSwN Q2DejmIjxcueCZHy7xvDYfiE3JifpikxQHSRyl7S0dOKrq9z+Hu+Cc1kz99OCe8u3DHfA9xQo 2D3vqarnNjJKFS6kiJRTS/SJMMcnTkh2ti9OsLZ8+/MGQJPOPqrwsP49dXcAXAEDl2owk7RjW oxLCcxD+L1jHtKHDKriQ== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47M4CB1pMmz4Jfd X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 217.72.192.74) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.75 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[95.96.102.188.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.991,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.989,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[74.192.72.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.37)[ip: (-0.67), ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(0.25), asn: 8560(2.29), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 11:13:12 -0000 On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 21:00:41 +0100, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 7:01 PM Polytropon wrote: > > It's sad to see that several things stop working during the > > course of advancement of FreeBSD, things that worked reliably > > for decades... :-/ > > Indeed, we also got into the point where Kernel API changes from > release to release and the graphics driver crashes your machine in an > endless loop :-( And I won't start ranting about how vt is far inferior to sc (which worked for decades), that vt lets you choose from a few unreadable ant-tiny fonts and blurry colors, and can't even properly display umlauts... :-/ > In Hangouts (web video chat client) I had to change input device to > "Monitor of /dev/dsp1" in order to get the built-in microphone > working. I have following devices: > /dev/dsp1 > /dev/dsp2 > Monitor of /dev/dsp0 > Monitor of /dev/dsp1 > Monitor of /dev/dsp2 > > My WindowManager Enlightenment uses PulseAudio for sound routing.. I only have WindowMaker (no desktop environment). For mixer control, I occassionally use simple "xmixer", but for now, the CLI "mixer" provided by FreeBSD is my choice. For recording, I use Audacity. What I found out: There has to be a specific setting of non-zero values for more than one mixer channel in order to get things working: the input device (mic, line), a recording device, and the input gain, and in addition, the monitor channel, if desired. Should one involved be zero, recording probably won't work. > Hope that helps.. I discovered the following wisdon: A sufficient amount of obstacles eventually leads to "do not want". ;-) Now I have the following "solution", which is far from perfect, but allows me to use the microphone - a thing that worked decades ago: Microphone -> mixer -> line-in. I won't mention the additionally needed adapters and connectors for this mess. :-) So now I have both permanent independent (!) input monitoring _and_ the ability to adjust the input level of the microphone. The mixer also creates "poor man's stereo" (mic channel both on L and R). The mixer settings are as follows (relevant things marked, I need to see which values lead to best results): % mixer -f /dev/mixer0 Mixer vol is currently set to 50:50 Mixer pcm is currently set to 100:100 Mixer line is currently set to 100:100 <--- Mixer mic is currently set to 0:0 Mixer cd is currently set to 0:0 Mixer rec is currently set to 100:100 <--- Mixer igain is currently set to 100:100 <--- Mixer monitor is currently set to 0:0 Recording source: line <--- The "monitor" channel has to stay zero so I don't have that annoying high-pitch tone interference. It also doesn't affect the actual monitoring (line audio can be heared on headphones) or recording (line audio is recorded and "visible" in Audacity). Those two seem to be totally irelevant: % mixer -f /dev/mixer1 Mixer rec is currently set to 0:0 Mixer monitor is currently set to 0:0 Recording source: monitor % mixer -f /dev/mixer2 Mixer vol is currently set to 0:0 Mixer pcm is currently set to 0:0 NB: I don't seem to have any /dev/dsp* devices, no idea why. But everything else "works". In case I need to record with a mike more often, I'll probably build a little pre-amplifier, with a battery, power switch and LED, connectors 3.5mm (so no more adapters needed), level adjustment, and maybe a little VU meter for input control. For now, the "solution" mentioned above should be fine. That must be the "smart modern AI big data computing experience" everyone keeps talking about! ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 25 14:45:22 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775A81AEF5B for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 14:45:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perso@florencepaul.com) Received: from mx-out-01.sud-ouest2.org (mx-out-01.sud-ouest2.org [87.98.220.64]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx-out-01.sud-ouest2.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47M8w15Cfhz4VfK for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 14:45:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perso@florencepaul.com) Received: by mx-out-01.sud-ouest2.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 8685915ECD86B; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 15:45:20 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 mx-out-01.sud-ouest2.org 8685915ECD86B Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.sud-ouest2.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9705D10089C2E9 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 15:45:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.sud-ouest2.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.sud-ouest2.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id W5bLvaxlPyXj for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 15:45:18 +0100 (CET) Subject: Geli password over network strategies References: <4ac6ee31-ab05-97f6-da4b-c2d798651fdf@florencepaul.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Paul Florence X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <4ac6ee31-ab05-97f6-da4b-c2d798651fdf@florencepaul.com> Message-ID: <9dd8e65a-afdd-514f-0dc0-6bb60b9faaab@florencepaul.com> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 15:45:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4ac6ee31-ab05-97f6-da4b-c2d798651fdf@florencepaul.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47M8w15Cfhz4VfK X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.32 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.978,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[florencepaul.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:87.98.220.64:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.960,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; IP_SCORE(0.62)[ipnet: 87.98.128.0/17(1.31), asn: 16276(1.78), country: FR(-0.00)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[florencepaul.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[florencepaul.com,quarantine]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:87.98.128.0/17, country:FR]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 14:45:22 -0000 Hello everyone, I am currently running a home-made server with 12.0-RELEASE-p10 using full disk geli encryption. When I boot the server, I first have to type a password to decrypt the whole system. However, my ISP is having some power issues and in the last few weeks I had to go there quite a few times to type a passphrase. I would like now to be able to enter my passphrase over the network. Would the following boot process be possible ? 1. First boot from an unencrypted kernel from a USB stick. 2. Then start an SSH server. 3. Input my passphrase over an ssh terminal. 4. Use the provided passphrase as the geli secret to boot the OS from the disk If no, has anyone had to deal with this kind of problem ? If so, what kind of strategy did you decide to use ? 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RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[denninger.net,none]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+,3:~,4:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14061, ipnet:104.236.64.0/18, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.46)[ip: (-9.83), ipnet: 104.236.64.0/18(-4.35), asn: 14061(1.91), country: US(-0.05)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[197.57.1.68.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11] X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 15:15:52 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010800040308080501040806 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/25/2019 08:45, Paul Florence via freebsd-questions wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am currently running a home-made server with 12.0-RELEASE-p10 using > full disk geli encryption. When I boot the server, I first have to > type a password to decrypt the whole system. > > However, my ISP is having some power issues and in the last few weeks > I had to go there quite a few times to type a passphrase. > > I would like now to be able to enter my passphrase over the network. > > Would the following boot process be possible ? > > 1. First boot from an unencrypted kernel from a USB stick. > > 2. Then start an SSH server. > > 3. Input my passphrase over an ssh terminal. > > 4. Use the provided passphrase as the geli secret to boot the OS from > the disk > > If no, has anyone had to deal with this kind of problem ? If so, what > kind of strategy did you decide to use ? > Yep.=C2=A0 My infrastructure is UPS backed but UPS batteries run out and = then things shut down.=C2=A0 When power comes back, well, I'd like to be able = to enter that password with REASONABLE security. Here's my strategy for dealing with it. Front-end the server with something that is a dedicated firewall and WILL reboot on power fail and come back to multi-user, normal mode (I use a pcEngines box that boots off SD and runs with root mounted read-only; there is thus essentially zero risk of said box not coming all the way back up unattended.)=C2=A0 It runs StrongSwan. Now from "wherever" I can either ssh or VPN into that after a power failure.=C2=A0 The main box is, at this point, sitting at a console promp= t asking for a GELI password as the loader requires it to unlock the root ZFS pool. I now have choices; I could have the big box set up to go to a serial console and have the serial port plugged in but instead my usual choice is to instead use the existing "big box's" IPKVM feature which I can access via two means -- either over the VPN (since my laptop now appears to be on the local LAN which has the IPKVM port on it) or I can sign into the gateway and use "ssh" to set up a temporary tunnel to the https: port on the IPKVM interface thereby allowing me to directly do a "https://gateway-ip-address:whateverport" and sign into the IPKVM that way, then use its functionality to get direct console access.=C2=A0 Eithe= r way the session is encrypted so the password cannot be picked off. --=20 Karl Denninger karl@denninger.net /The Market Ticker/ /[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/ --------------ms010800040308080501040806 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" 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Paul Florence Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Geli password over network strategies References: <4ac6ee31-ab05-97f6-da4b-c2d798651fdf@florencepaul.com> <9dd8e65a-afdd-514f-0dc0-6bb60b9faaab@florencepaul.com> In-reply-to: <9dd8e65a-afdd-514f-0dc0-6bb60b9faaab@florencepaul.com> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 16:18:42 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47M9fk0RcLz4XZf X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=evilham.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of contact@evilham.com designates 2a02:2770::216:3eff:fee1:cf9 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=contact@evilham.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.39 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-3.59)[ip: (-9.83), ipnet: 2a02:2770::/32(-4.54), asn: 196752(-3.61), country: NL(0.02)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[evilham.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:196752, ipnet:2a02:2770::/32, country:NL]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 15:18:55 -0000 On dl., nov. 25 2019, Paul Florence via freebsd-questions wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am currently running a home-made server with 12.0-RELEASE-p10 > using > full disk geli encryption. When I boot the server, I first have > to type > a password to decrypt the whole system. > > However, my ISP is having some power issues and in the last few > weeks I > had to go there quite a few times to type a passphrase. > > I would like now to be able to enter my passphrase over the > network. > > Would the following boot process be possible ? > > 1. First boot from an unencrypted kernel from a USB stick. > > 2. Then start an SSH server. > > 3. Input my passphrase over an ssh terminal. > > 4. Use the provided passphrase as the geli secret to boot the OS > from > the disk > > If no, has anyone had to deal with this kind of problem ? If so, > what > kind of strategy did you decide to use ? > > Thanks, Hi Paul, I'm don't think what you mention works as it is, but is close enough to what I've done and does work: I hope you are aware of the security downsides of doing this, I think it does look like the kind of trade-off you need. - There is an unencrypted FreeBSD (caveat: kernel must match that of the encrypted system, care when upgrading) - System boots into that unencrypted FreeBSD - I access that unencrypted system over SSH - Encrypted system is unlocked - reboot -r is used to boot into that system (man reboot explains that quite well) I use ZFS and a simple unlock script that is at the end of this message (the unencrypted pool is called "init" as opposed to "zroot"), but you should be able to do sth similar with e.g. UFS (man reboot has a very basic example). Also: I do think this use-case could be made easier but haven't tried to hack into the installer (yet). Apparently I am not alone, see the feedback bits towards the end of the episode: https://www.bsdnow.tv/319 Hope this helps, cheers. -- Evilham #!/bin/sh # Setup variables partition="ada0p4" zfs_pool="zroot" # Unlock encrypted system geli attach ${partition} || exit # Import pool without mounting only if needed. # If pool is already imported, this does nothing. zpool status ${zfs_pool} > /dev/null 2>&1 || zpool import -Nf -R /mnt ${zfs_pool} # Get bootfs bootfs=$(zpool get -H -o value bootfs ${zfs_pool}) # See FreeBSD bug 210721 zpool export ${zfs_pool} # Setup root file system echo kenv "vfs.root.mountfrom=zfs:${bootfs}" echo # Reboot into decrypted system reboot -r From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 25 15:23:19 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B91F1B02AC for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 15:23:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47M9ln5rJdz4XwF for ; 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When I boot the server, I first have to type > a password to decrypt the whole system. > > However, my ISP is having some power issues and in the last few weeks I > had to go there quite a few times to type a passphrase. > > I would like now to be able to enter my passphrase over the network. > > Would the following boot process be possible ? > > 1. First boot from an unencrypted kernel from a USB stick. > > 2. Then start an SSH server. > > 3. Input my passphrase over an ssh terminal. > > 4. Use the provided passphrase as the geli secret to boot the OS from > the disk That would be the problem: You cannot boot one OS from another OS (heavily simplified and technically not fully correct, but still the problem remains). The core problem is that in early boot stages of the OS, no network and therefore no SSH is available. And if you _re_boot the server (to get the actual OS from the decrypted storage), the decryption will be gone as soon as you reboot... > If no, has anyone had to deal with this kind of problem ? If so, what > kind of strategy did you decide to use ? My suggestion would be to enable serial console, and have that serial console redirect to a SSH port that you can connect to. This way, the OS boots to the point where you have to enter the passphrase - now via SSH -, and boot continues, while you can always re-connect to the serial line. There are "communication servers" and solutions commonly found in datacenters that allow you to connect to a system they provide (with SSH) that allows you to interact with the serial line of your own server. See "serial over SSH". -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[174.109.225.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 11sm4205506qtx.45.2019.11.25.08.59.46 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 25 Nov 2019 08:59:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (HP-ENVY [192.168.0.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47MCv52vcyz1yfy for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 11:59:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 11:59:35 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: BUG: "uhub_reattach_port: giving up port reset - device vanished" Message-ID: <20191125115935.00006f60@seibercom.net> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/I71Qz1NUbnUv9oD12pj/6u+"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47MCv86S3lz4dK6 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=g7I1zQyc; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::730 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.32 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(-2.72)[ip: (-9.31), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.27), asn: 15169(-1.96), country: US(-0.05)]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[250.225.109.174.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[0.3.7.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 16:59:49 -0000 --Sig_/I71Qz1NUbnUv9oD12pj/6u+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am wondering how many others are having a problem with installing FrfeeBSD 12.x? There is a serious bug, "https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D237666" that is preventing me from installing it. I am just interested in how widespread this problem is. --=20 Jerry --Sig_/I71Qz1NUbnUv9oD12pj/6u+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEIQb/tTwl6I1ueEVtOHMGOIfexWQFAl3cCHgACgkQOHMGOIfe xWQd9gf+JdQMNYa+4R2fLHmmPOTCbOhzXFT2IrCtBsYG1T9v9anPpWIGgVBNX/QM uXVC/7Dm/fTPmGYb4VQfOC/mrlGEPxtMzy1WQSsqCkbEBSjV9ZdqPy6ptxGZbcsc vjcoTXZ2CAWp8PifqDfAz94PARCOcGMjFQz1TLDX31U8cK6ZPyvgwrpM6NA/gjly Hlrg5d8xnqv1qQhbl3gXUbyw7VlMfyn3piYNjhVYZBkCokORNbb9/3piLzw8VN81 WR6laL+txCIRY+6KFWB3fD4RwJa8aUyPg3poWs+uwVohPjs88seGpOA4WMgxGL3n cieA+HgLg6kERWNuypK0ZwU52yZdgA== =esen -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/I71Qz1NUbnUv9oD12pj/6u+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 25 17:06:07 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DD01B2AF4 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 17:06:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47MD2R4SgCz4drZ for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 17:06:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5B4F64E66C for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 11:06:06 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: BUG: "uhub_reattach_port: giving up port reset - device vanished" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20191125115935.00006f60@seibercom.net> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <709066b5-6fb2-c66f-9c91-63e09f6f8f03@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 11:06:06 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20191125115935.00006f60@seibercom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47MD2R4SgCz4drZ X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 17:06:07 -0000 On 2019-11-25 10:59, Jerry wrote: > I am wondering how many others are having a problem with installing > FrfeeBSD 12.x? There is a serious bug, > "https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=237666" that is > preventing me from installing it. I am just interested in how > widespread this problem is. Not me. I run a bunch of servers that are 12.0, one is upgraded to 12.1. No problem here. Valeri > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 26 14:57:17 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9919F1B902A for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 14:57:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@johnrshannon.com) Received: from maila.johnrshannon.com (maila.johnrshannon.com [104.153.32.124]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Mn7J40yGz3QQk for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 14:57:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@johnrshannon.com) Received: from buster.internal.johnrshannon.com (buster.internal.johnrshannon.com [192.168.1.34]) by maila.johnrshannon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4773C5 for ; 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RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 14:57:17 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms060009070303080800090006 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm getting the error message: cannot receive new filesystem stream: out of space warning: cannot send 'zroot/ROOT/default@zfs-auto-snap_daily-2019-11-17-00h07': signal receive= d when sending a snapshot in a scripted backup. The lines leading to this error are: # Connect isci device iscsictl -A -n t4 sleep 4 # Take pool online zpool import backups sleep 4 # Replicate zroot pool to backups zxfer -dFkPv -R zroot backups As I understand the documentation, there should be plenty of space. The destination system shows: # zpool list exportpool NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CKPOINT EXPANDSZ FRAG CAP DEDUP HEALTH ALTROOT exportpool 5.44T 136G 5.30T - - 2% 2% 1.00x ONLINE - # zfs list exportpool/backups/polya NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT exportpool/backups/polya 61.9G 5.05T 32.6G - # zfs list -o quota exportpool/backups/polya QUOTA - Both the sender and receiver are up-to-date: 12.1-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 12.1-RELEASE-p1 r354656 GENERIC amd64 --=20 John R. 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I don't know why it failed before the reboot. On 2019-11-26 07:57, john via freebsd-questions wrote: > I'm getting the error message: >=20 > cannot receive new filesystem stream: out of space > warning: cannot send > 'zroot/ROOT/default@zfs-auto-snap_daily-2019-11-17-00h07': signal recei= ved >=20 > when sending a snapshot in a scripted backup. The lines leading to this= > error are: >=20 > # Connect isci device > iscsictl -A -n t4 > sleep 4 >=20 > # Take pool online > zpool import backups > sleep 4 >=20 > # Replicate zroot pool to backups > zxfer -dFkPv -R zroot backups >=20 >=20 > As I understand the documentation, there should be plenty of space. The= > destination system shows: >=20 > # zpool list exportpool > NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CKPOINT EXPANDSZ FRAG CAP DEDUP= > HEALTH ALTROOT > exportpool 5.44T 136G 5.30T - - 2% 2% 1.00x= > ONLINE - >=20 > # zfs list exportpool/backups/polya > NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT > exportpool/backups/polya 61.9G 5.05T 32.6G - >=20 > # zfs list -o quota exportpool/backups/polya > QUOTA > - >=20 > Both the sender and receiver are up-to-date: >=20 > 12.1-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 12.1-RELEASE-p1 r354656 GENERIC amd64 >=20 >=20 --=20 John R. 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Got a new ssd so tried latest snapshot install to it. I wanted seperate /usr /var and / partitions, also to enable trim, also two 16GB swap partitions,= =20 so selected manual UFS, completed the install, reboot, cannot find kernel.= =20 Repeated the install the same way again with same result. Rebooted, ran=20 the installer for a third time, selected auto ufs and everything worked=20 as expected on reboot, but of course without the modifications I wanted. Is this a known issue? Also, MBR is selected by default. 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FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 04:09:13 -0000 Hello, I am trying to install FreeBSD 12.1 on my ThinkPad. I burned an image to USB from freebsd.org, install went through ok but ran into "startx" issues (Cannot run in framebuffer mod...). Tried a few suggestions on google but nothing worked;( I am trying to see if TrueOS is something I could use to install. But unable to find USB .img file for the latest TrueOS 18.X....I do see .iso but need .img for installation via USB on laptop. I am new to FreeBSD world, and would really like to get "a" desktop version running on my laptop (later need to download latest sources, build and play with latest versions). Any pointers/suggestions highly appreciated! Thanks a lot! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 27 05:15:39 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E561CA619 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 05:15:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davor@cropakglobal.com) Received: from p3nlsmtpcp01-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3nlsmtpcp01-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [184.168.200.142]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "relay-hosting.secureserver.net", Issuer "Starfield Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47N89k31Rqz4fym for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 05:15:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davor@cropakglobal.com) Received: from p3plcpnl0699.prod.phx3.secureserver.net ([50.62.176.225]) by : HOSTING RELAY : with ESMTP id Zpeti0zJ8oAizZpetixxcp; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 22:14:35 -0700 Received: from [118.211.159.136] (port=25852 helo=[10.1.1.228]) by p3plcpnl0699.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iZpes-002NQB-Ax for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 22:14:35 -0700 Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Davor Balder Message-ID: <74a0ea1b-3b27-5a4c-d063-24712884bda8@cropakglobal.com> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 16:14:20 +1100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.2.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - p3plcpnl0699.prod.phx3.secureserver.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - cropakglobal.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: p3plcpnl0699.prod.phx3.secureserver.net: authenticated_id: davor@cropakglobal.com X-Authenticated-Sender: p3plcpnl0699.prod.phx3.secureserver.net: davor@cropakglobal.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfGDnpKNPu9L08sIabbHAiK2vuePQykE29fFJNFkU5xB9Z2L1YAboc7CPl/xSaITdPkwMQUfRFnNd/aR1hpCuhYgxOUse6/2wYdrQg8nXL8DVD1fWjgdp 6YJT21i4Ytia7S0ryULadvNsL8L2kxGS5u3PCQr8AbjQSnqTfg2DGWkFqXn0m+wFqZ2l1Ye7DzzRxxJUdJMd9MuP+z5l7FowjuMVMPkzLQZkNlAjQXjd7UUN X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47N89k31Rqz4fym X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of davor@cropakglobal.com designates 184.168.200.142 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=davor@cropakglobal.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:184.168.200.0/24]; HAS_X_SOURCE(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cropakglobal.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.20)[-0.198,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(1.08)[ip: (3.80), ipnet: 184.168.200.0/22(1.44), asn: 26496(0.19), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[142.200.168.184.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; HAS_X_GMSV(0.00)[davor@cropakglobal.com]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.57)[-0.574,0]; HAS_X_ANTIABUSE(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[142.200.168.184.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:26496, ipnet:184.168.200.0/22, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; HAS_X_AS(0.00)[davor@cropakglobal.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 05:15:40 -0000 Hello, I think you are having problems because you need to install xorg and your display managers as you wish. Have a look at steps in this guide as an example of installation on a ThinkPad: https://www.c0ffee.net/blog/freebsd-on-a-laptop/ Any further issues, please let us know and one of us will try to assist. As for your questions regarding TrueOS, this was a project sponsored by iXsystems. Desktop effort became project Trident. If my understanding is correct, their latest version is for Linux, not (Free)BSD. So, you would seem to be on the right track. Kind regards, Davor On 27/11/19 3:08 pm, vm finance wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to install FreeBSD 12.1 on my ThinkPad. I burned an image to > USB from freebsd.org, install went through ok but ran into "startx" issues > (Cannot run in framebuffer mod...). Tried a few suggestions on google but > nothing worked;( > > I am trying to see if TrueOS is something I could use to install. But > unable to find USB .img file for the latest TrueOS 18.X....I do see .iso > but need .img for installation via USB on laptop. > > I am new to FreeBSD world, and would really like to get "a" desktop version > running on my laptop (later need to download latest sources, build and play > with latest versions). > > Any pointers/suggestions highly appreciated! > > Thanks a lot! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 27 05:26:05 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D2531CA97F for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 05:26:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davor@cropakglobal.com) Received: from p3nlsmtpcp01-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3nlsmtpcp01-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [184.168.200.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "relay-hosting.secureserver.net", Issuer "Starfield Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47N8Pl4Dc6z3Bpc for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 05:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davor@cropakglobal.com) Received: from p3plcpnl0699.prod.phx3.secureserver.net ([50.62.176.225]) by : HOSTING RELAY : with ESMTP id ZpoziVj9R453pZpoziHkUS; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 22:25:01 -0700 Received: from [118.211.159.136] (port=37552 helo=[10.1.1.228]) by p3plcpnl0699.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iZpoz-002l3r-51 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 22:25:01 -0700 Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Davor Balder Message-ID: <19cb61bd-aa71-ffbd-8d7a-0470b2f81870@cropakglobal.com> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 16:24:54 +1100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.2.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - p3plcpnl0699.prod.phx3.secureserver.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - cropakglobal.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: p3plcpnl0699.prod.phx3.secureserver.net: authenticated_id: davor@cropakglobal.com X-Authenticated-Sender: p3plcpnl0699.prod.phx3.secureserver.net: davor@cropakglobal.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfOd4RFd3k6sLocEPPZLtI/M57DoB0n14aaCjtnC/upFo7RoLMM34K8yR9iYoVEFFw4prhSxRqdRHl32B9mA9ja+XYMLA1Ua/UVx5dXbIiXuH9xq+/yfW Yls12PSWfRRPzU3oZ7ItYjen3rWDFoiavTr0fvO7XGzFtWRFfoQ0jxcs+fXaRfCSPc5n2CusWuOSc+g5Sb5G5idS8vKMKcrHL+XMJV5dsCW/vdEggi8WVHZ7 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47N8Pl4Dc6z3Bpc X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of davor@cropakglobal.com designates 184.168.200.140 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=davor@cropakglobal.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.35 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:184.168.200.0/24]; HAS_X_SOURCE(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cropakglobal.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.83)[-0.827,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(0.68)[ip: (1.89), ipnet: 184.168.200.0/22(1.36), asn: 26496(0.19), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[140.200.168.184.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; HAS_X_GMSV(0.00)[davor@cropakglobal.com]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.90)[-0.900,0]; HAS_X_ANTIABUSE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:26496, ipnet:184.168.200.0/22, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; HAS_X_AS(0.00)[davor@cropakglobal.com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 05:26:05 -0000 Hello, Another guide for you: https://cooltrainer.org/a-freebsd-11-desktop-howto/ Once you are up and running, there is a plenty of info in FreeBSD Handbook as you are no doubt aware: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ Welcome to FreeBSD! Kind regards, Davor On 27/11/19 3:08 pm, vm finance wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to install FreeBSD 12.1 on my ThinkPad. I burned an image to > USB from freebsd.org, install went through ok but ran into "startx" issues > (Cannot run in framebuffer mod...). Tried a few suggestions on google but > nothing worked;( > > I am trying to see if TrueOS is something I could use to install. But > unable to find USB .img file for the latest TrueOS 18.X....I do see .iso > but need .img for installation via USB on laptop. > > I am new to FreeBSD world, and would really like to get "a" desktop version > running on my laptop (later need to download latest sources, build and play > with latest versions). > > Any pointers/suggestions highly appreciated! > > Thanks a lot! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 27 06:11:07 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423471CB4EF for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 06:11:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathiaki2@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic309-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic309-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.184.148]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47N9Pj4gk7z3DVd for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 06:11:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathiaki2@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: cTI.r14VM1l4npmcl3RSP.fsQo38tsa.8S725fYxYlyqlFc9NC45qlP.JlgEyvz ud2KSOzzSJt4DvBFbh3UDRvfrqx1hrGgS9qJ8Fv2C_q_lPBqsTX_dcyOT9SlIya6pR_zHEvdl3Tw QcWK4S51QfgtB1cHhSr7TlrJzhUAQy1ypJGWstJsmEKg0BzRN_LsGVpiaJk.ZdJAmLezlGdxIVtV Hv8zyPjl31Wk7Nx3NRiCXqLzsvAZ7_9Zr6kVN9wSUrQlQUv0qHl0DP.PyvnkFnlbCk6SNvIlgXjd vIHOiLIepd6gfS_gkkDyohlxs.6rws8DO.BRYbgrWS8Tn2AbdCmgeeoqHHR0M8zmy0Q5a6ptf.xa WKdoqsMM2BUvLI4KANPxFGV0rO1s6FBjloT6R2vDhUty._LVgI1WQM72ghejPLtB.Vx9.czK4a5C 5aC3AcId1cnh092dNBxcAl3SPpAKrFX3RvqdCCXVzoEdr4Fxlj3pThVpRKRNoyxULKLO5F1SN19J wkwy3SryVyZDqPvKC.kpvHzL902Mfr66IX75Vm5J10NvwzGitryWFoPHZsbEOtOCp9vaj_OwH9pQ EsNJgchCxXnTJo4cwOzY5wjFCZP4cBFSRRETJGhIr8Pz.ALba9BpkS5f7NSN3fxU86DsAV.fbHB_ ahRIisCWXSuszvsyQTjxB0VDaCfL8te5e.ifEltfmIt_UA7r6tdQrZRb6CSxGrJWIzbW_DM6aUhm aThKkiFgqx6TnEAJX6JbEa_T9Jh39obGxzUt67Slyq5_AY.x0F6hxNjsrm8JqTECBEG6g2sT8Np2 SzgiiXK_mNZJvfYLdtDhGXo82gDdxC350ypYnKmBuC.F8sPy9zO9BLA0zTDb8rt._r_Z..TqAy0B JcdYc1oeh7Exy6QbS9yd.VOmYJgT_BDQyLL0zi3E14PXCLGl0zObHKoUi_5UM1kv48V8UBmj7vNw 4QidyEbysHTD6uxb8riU.nzlp5Syp.RnYMa7AztJU7WdzTigilWlK2vszDhUkCAmAEeh0qjqgtzG toopNudK78S4l74pLdPKGFJClTb3n_M688KJDPTD.7Y.WagGo1Dfj1bw93C4Jyeju.HHM55CdR_f 2lnndyik50EjFfBSbhprchz4J58CrJljivPVZLLI9eILI8YA2eqh.XczDVUGpPcG1kcEfL8qC44U yTF_IWtA1t2wk5uXsAn567P8QRTats9O8AuXoGN6ZGqWGIBFkiTmxVd4cBlitg6XLEqxkNyJeKAi ..t3t_43UUuDWjLSgfAhAZFyCZ49YjJ2uDJhYDF90LZQe81iN.SIXWaluXgeBRdSWTkILHtITeT. 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Thanks a lot! _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 27 06:12:20 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A621CB722 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 06:12:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodbrian77@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-x129.google.com (mail-il1-x129.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::129]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47N9R72bCpz3Dmt for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 06:12:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodbrian77@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-x129.google.com with SMTP id p6so20020945ilp.1 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 22:12:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=C69577utrmR1vrw5acTVUtDjYelcCvHU1Bq3gRTsxMo=; b=FPhJ0HH2Mlx2OqGM72ffVxCukp7eA+mFee26dpg1NBtn447SSVoIVJNd0Hry2UfkEz M8MZUby7qocDsVJBp/jVkrM4vYpEYi1+7lcTi0PkMRDunfk7iwFF9IRsZK9hy+xFuWSP 2ewoVpU4ge4GvSxb8Fb0JiQ6FWAtyoSgjw1J2AmIFeijWHD3PXwCHOZO8pXrbn/Vo5u6 yMnKzpkzenwbfaRY33k9CL97hNbQorcKFX7/6ft2a579BvPfGuI2gAr+sg+OPSHpClCR 0TseacooZfHWgDiT5cpUIFWcmco5PEA8T3KrsU3nOo859oL71tx1hNiRn0MgCM3LR6FY qljw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=C69577utrmR1vrw5acTVUtDjYelcCvHU1Bq3gRTsxMo=; b=TEErkJJCq47uPGnTx2QTNiOH9sQB/Ind28sN1xsVlOkM1GNQEbjQLPqA6lxRYVPbN4 bOpPOrnAPbK0/5rbUVgxRZIDpy38uXgVjAyUdsQhCA95g+sPfimD9+3tVVYEZRMi9Mm6 8c4Ac5fYUV4MMD3VnY9OJWpUAq+GVETCIWxKLFIUoj25Il9eGrP08hqy7LzzV3riIHdh 1n16Ils9w0nJ8unWQ4hKh8Ro1XAW1Vlb9gXk/DT1SeSyOMvB+A1L8BDLHEsUNou8K6PG giEbZ9sHOXQAP0Hm+QR+iYak/lx+L6CCafvR4lyu95d9JZjHkHq/l0lwen6QmYsqGFri EdfQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUv8EYLCsGVlM6Yt5Kl1ZO4TlJYJjI0Zqxk4M8BkmWXEDtW2rfD c/C/SbVbuPs+J4zD5bFY8fV+yDtMM2yIATTDR7d1+z/B X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyeDfGgOvEWrnzXUXle3qNMrlvwIfCC6tXZrfE27RD1LtOoY56E/FmHOgU1cqOwylD8n70NYPrci+bV/3tzTKQ= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:100b:: with SMTP id n11mr41917722ilj.212.1574835137836; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 22:12:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Wood Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 00:12:08 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: BUG: "uhub_reattach_port: giving up port reset - device vanished To: FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47N9R72bCpz3Dmt X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=FPhJ0HH2; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of woodbrian77@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=woodbrian77@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FAKE_REPLY(1.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-8.97), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.27), asn: 15169(-1.95), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[9.2.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 06:12:20 -0000 > I am wondering how many others are having a problem with > installing FrfeeBSD 12.x? There is a serious bug, >"https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=237666" that is > preventing me from installing it. I am just interested in how > widespread this problem is. I didn't know about that link, thanks. I've been using 12.1 and 13 recently. I only saw that error on 13. Brian Ebenezer Enterprises https://github.com/Ebenezer-group/onwards From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 27 09:45:47 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7871CEE64 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 09:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-qt1-x832.google.com (mail-qt1-x832.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::832]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NG9Q5sdBz3NPr for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 09:45:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: by mail-qt1-x832.google.com with SMTP id 30so24678886qtz.12 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 01:45:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:mime-version; bh=h0ky6V9/KBiGrrtH6FCtJeiAfZsdOr3SuMmWNsHxIt4=; b=JkYRE8kFrWsH+k2KJqDyst7+HPEy0RZbLad1wqo83ykM40s7FmGvLuCyj1nUJ4wLKC nEOLvgPiiO2rE4bn+M4q/43jjlDbXuJVYokQjPaYSPK5bwFfW4dFmN9OzuCDOX1ccqm/ zGgDs6sWJeBoLOgY/W5UUvdXwH2mb6PoNd0vM= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:reply-to:organization:mime-version; bh=h0ky6V9/KBiGrrtH6FCtJeiAfZsdOr3SuMmWNsHxIt4=; b=q2M8l7EwPrC1LMKLhESbZhJpz152ZyqoJz7g2xVwwbqZnFGFzQECInnl7wkS6Bl7lC 8m/+ukJqkIxF4TQOnEEuPQI07PeVv8EvsbcgWyba51bc+IMe1saPFKrUcnHNA1Je65DY gzD2fBd/RSosWVsduw0aNiQP1XJkab9cjmdewB9G2FsGaNMP/5Yy8wUQ3eQwsokjioEW Koc2pmAS/W5YPAlNs6j3Fxw5gqCX3Jj87kQ56dx2dloi0KJH1xaAYbNjVMxTtFTyq0dl JQ4GqTwUf6FvcETG6NMTYuQeGPP6U+1B5sfh7YUEleVV96ulnayE6MWcMbbDaQVllfYM 3b5Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXFIZSJ3+QXHESgGWhyRdX16B1e0YbpxMMWQH+dPylJziIXPrTt GWBqMLKnUYXHdcqP1c/q7iNP6UpWKYI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzRpqronpPF8gunRUkqPCEmUSVrWZ7KvihTZykCJ26U2/C8hkqTj7FEkb4xXa8ueHpX+s9skQ== X-Received: by 2002:aed:2904:: with SMTP id s4mr26221130qtd.316.1574847945746; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 01:45:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-174-109-225-250.nc.res.rr.com. [174.109.225.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r37sm7502223qtj.44.2019.11.27.01.45.44 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 27 Nov 2019 01:45:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (HP-ENVY [192.168.0.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47NG9M4SStz1Y9N for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 04:45:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 04:45:34 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BUG: "uhub_reattach_port: giving up port reset - device vanished Message-ID: <20191127044534.00007c53@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/YtURkKR..CGeg_tRpvzxG9T"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47NG9Q5sdBz3NPr X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=JkYRE8kF; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::832 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.33 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.73)[ip: (-9.37), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.27), asn: 15169(-1.95), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[250.225.109.174.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.3.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 09:45:47 -0000 --Sig_/YtURkKR..CGeg_tRpvzxG9T Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 00:12:08 -0600, Brian Wood commented: >> I am wondering how many others are having a problem with >> installing FrfeeBSD 12.x? There is a serious bug, >>"https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D237666" that is >> preventing me from installing it. I am just interested in how >> widespread this problem is. =20 > >I didn't know about that link, thanks. I've been using 12.1 and 13 >recently. I only saw that error on 13. The general consensus, is that this is a regression. Since 11.x works fine, I have no idea why it was not caught during the beta testing of the FreeBSD 12 branch. Apparently, this bug only affects certain PC's. Id find it extremely unsettling that it is also apparent in the FreeBSD 13 branch. I have no idea why it is working for you in 12.x, but that is further than I ever got. For the record, I was attempting to do a clean install on a blank HD, so I am sure there was no left over garbage from earlier installs. Right now, I would definitely NOT recommend FreeBSD to anyone until this bug is squashed. --=20 Jerry --Sig_/YtURkKR..CGeg_tRpvzxG9T Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEIQb/tTwl6I1ueEVtOHMGOIfexWQFAl3eRb4ACgkQOHMGOIfe xWSJdQf+MCHU6/cq6P8MaxgODCSKby6K/Ak1hIWKY0Mvxqh4SYnbuMlVMVL2VkDe sjQVaRjAwqEdBzbGgEv73/t8/4ml8PHcBMFM4uxuGBaA/1VVdCeAIrBJ9Yt0TiMb gG4T/Z8OkBTBZU2zu+mafg+R/5kIg4jU/5nY5W4QTa6o6Nn+JDyttuXakgulh7gZ iM6MqJvmmT1HMgzJ6uxJwnYKBazIow5IPlsILNme79I6DMdnXg1oC+R/wVXBPhqD gbiuhPhf19y7chj0xWwJ84BWIHbYJJ9wMPe5w6e/iuYRAcImRjZZeVDfOB7CthnQ U/cA+RSGSmaEKF1sOhlRtBZR7DT1Jg== =kaMG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/YtURkKR..CGeg_tRpvzxG9T-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 27 12:16:18 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85FB31AA8B0 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:16:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NKW530qmz423s for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:16:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([188.102.99.44]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MrhDg-1i4AL02IZ2-00nkhH; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 13:16:10 +0100 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 13:16:09 +0100 From: Polytropon To: tech-lists Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 12.1-STABLE r354923 snapshot install doesn't like manual ufs setup Message-Id: <20191127131609.e69ab03c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20191127033739.GB75104@bastion.zyxst.net> References: <20191127033739.GB75104@bastion.zyxst.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:saSjRPsfXkpNgYwcVbXy3s+xqVdpp8qJZwGu2na/DSSgVJhi1aI zfR94dKvmVeMDMgBhZez6+8lfqe1fM1N5WPHiR8wVCUJnsfWomYHL3BxxBsvq7kxcdnSZiA wIV4BGS3kHCjcIE8EzjhoPINBwUP94eMoYB5LOm+wPRBivxXy71G1MODYjr0btL8uzE4LWK R6fiMY0TfDWI0Ecl+d9cw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:lZM+jE+iH8o=:4huT4xNfIktkJv6noIh4V9 0KmU0DAC3ROv4F/gaHH+GxOY4BJt9ZaXanhmlT15kbORyoF2Zu4wapjEufZZC14RKkVKUfRNX 3JZopOiZ/u/5jseuG2EB6VaIcmtAHQrKthmlzWK7ItjDUtdac57rFgBFEUjOPLZ87OWZUws7r //avvngjS8tmfuENCXqE6nDNepsPkqgNtAgugCPwDxriA+YaOva7svTR9P8DbdzQDvoQcjF6K rY2xQyPwIHk9ZYnd8MXOmXA2AJL3zX4SONxjXQXeLpg27oXC7zpv8CRKVm2ikG8ezvOaOsGLB erCwJLJ77jVKD/hMjo+1uF/vLzcPi91CRUyNwDo8TuV3CeNtcadQVvIyJX7SXIuPSgRVmrs/9 zT21Z72uFWAM4/mAsOpp6rKNLty4cX+m5YB0yfPdCSwJYRBN0xC+IkC4ZXuRs1boo08tspZ4L C3ACwvTB/fg+SPwKQf2UpU9gom63kykC+td7sM3yu/JvePyGI0FJBs5IQ8K0S3XtIcHuy6jUj 2a4vULzwiNk0ul4/KOO/4kc3cWT5NG1ORQBJFOuHIcRKoKlchSKPMgbZ1E+jKak62D6B+7eeA LvrPYTBpgh9huXzh8d6HmYXloPLkdQGlOMoNjzz5Y79NgzsNrSwqxFQ8HJMl3xfyFQsn6VHQE BjsWnaivx8eD8OLH6WklnwRfSwY+AM4gGgy/3prxfz9FpwtXUj9ssVaF6ZKC5lXBsHndLRGvM QBV3hCewMzOQOSyMGfVT0EfHeu/kSn0H7fKXVw/wWjjYBzQTmwXk0unsC0yhNPWr5VJC7Xf7R 7+jxbQ3U5hhZ3KFT6hXkGWq6aiRxhcB9KWLd8eSEhmAVGGXCxJ0QZoPxZkPkE78W6zMpVGSNy 2yidBgfWU5Rooq8ylI5w== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47NKW530qmz423s X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.134) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.97 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[44.99.102.188.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.992,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.998,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[134.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.58)[ip: (1.87), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.23), asn: 8560(2.29), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:16:18 -0000 On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 03:37:39 +0000, tech-lists wrote: > Hi, > > Got a new ssd so tried latest snapshot install to it. I wanted seperate /usr > /var and / partitions, also to enable trim, also two 16GB swap partitions, > so selected manual UFS, completed the install, reboot, cannot find kernel. Did you do this using the bsdinstall program, or manually via shell? If in shell, make sure you wrote the boot code. After the installation, reboot with the installation medium, mount your / partition, and check if /boot contains the kernel. In case of MBR, there are two important things: 1. The slice where you installed FreeBSD to, let's say, /dev/ada0s1, has to be marked "active". 2. The partition where the kernel is located, usually assigned to the / mountpoint, has to be the "a" partition, here /dev/ada0s1a. Those things are "chained" when the OS is attempted to be loaded: find first disk; on first disk, find first primary partition that is "active", transfer control to it; from there, mount "a" partition and load kernel from it. In case you're using the "decicated" approach, you can omit the slicing part; for example /dev/ada0a would contain the boot code. > Repeated the install the same way again with same result. Rebooted, ran > the installer for a third time, selected auto ufs and everything worked > as expected on reboot, but of course without the modifications I wanted. > > Is this a known issue? Even though bsdinstall isn't that bad, I personally prefer to prepare the disk via shell commands manually before I return to bsdinstall, add the created partitions, and have the installer do it's work, in case I needed something that is "non-standard" (as you've described). This is because of my impression (I wouldn't call it an issue though) that the bsdinstall program doesn't understand when you leave its predefined path... ;-) > Also, MBR is selected by default. SHould I be using GPT instead, nowadays? Probably yes. Use GPT. Use MBR only if you have a good reason to do so (inter-OS things might be such a case). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 27 14:21:12 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA731AD1EE; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 14:21:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd34.google.com (mail-io1-xd34.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d34]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NNHC34Hdz47Nd; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 14:21:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd34.google.com with SMTP id x21so25059278ior.2; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 06:21:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=DVR9dsGdCZRjyLNhOxR8ZwoOqsR+LAGcBQwV/hkkhOk=; b=aU7r5ICsn4XlyZQei9aczpeYaA9lIIMdo+B1k4HEPCMb9rtbUuv4w+vnj4rwiBYkGM gqBwXkLxtP6xOtoLnqpks279LERWA56SjYFxik2SnvfKzBiuFJ8S2XYSCRg/TIbXJl0d Y4OdRIAAkO27vmWQWhgXvPjC3kJpZaLzbAAPIel1sRgm+3M0fbqFVc/h++tO+8CxP8XU l1fMT9QitN7uVe7niyAaN+L5bPL78fUzfK/ZpF/jOUhUr++qDjSh2qLT9AOeJFSKuhTc AvgBRYTSKSVq8zEFi6G5/JBuZX7l8HDIA03bbRweFPhCAz5A//ydrLq/ch1tJlgAVVyQ f3mA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=DVR9dsGdCZRjyLNhOxR8ZwoOqsR+LAGcBQwV/hkkhOk=; b=aCWMXu4dBOk7yGHD2mfr0NY02fCkOtn8l7/XXe/XF1Utp6b1yAUzo74K765dQAd5mj oZeOmB4X+yS6Jf4/1s7yu38D+XAzqIsh6OuQgxxiEHfaBSyDQXxH6FW+JykhQ4g/aRe7 AO0Qd2BAZNbhxHhpbKBzq6k7UJ+lEyiFh0/kunwvgKQH/rodv1PxNBY+y88K2MCR+nh/ YPaZwac6HKusfLAUwfeMgzEATsCHtDdyK++jb+b2xiwGlGALwr7kymLqMfQW3BRGTmmu xcgGsn2LtPzW5suF7GcmdHT7kksRV7Xaz1YQRB5+vFcoLpMFCi1xlpVAyXp/n6dLYsUh Wc+w== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWal7WVk3AfyA9bk+l21Y7N5wQaN5e4IaWLF+3NZ2fBkXPaFPRT LMSurP7kwI8n+vgMAngH3RN+9n5tFccFQCgITy1yMQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqz7BC7JpWFWggtfHnzi1cICXQXdPqTxTqQz56WuwlAPq6HITH5g73PSgdZPZilZ9Jq1pbL8wmepevLARc5coHE= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:b581:: with SMTP id e123mr35240997iof.67.1574864470200; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 06:21:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <18414268-96b1-6112-2c91-345aea9e7f24@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <18414268-96b1-6112-2c91-345aea9e7f24@gmail.com> From: vm finance Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:50:59 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: Theron Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47NNHC34Hdz47Nd X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=aU7r5ICs; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vmfinance2@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d34 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vmfinance2@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[5]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-4.86), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.27), asn: 15169(-1.95), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[4.3.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 14:21:12 -0000 Hi Theron, I tried to do: pkg install drm-kmod It installed ok but still startx fails "Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs for all framebuffer devices" please let me know how to workaround this. Thank you! On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 10:05 AM Theron wrote: > On 2019-11-26 23:08, vm finance wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I am trying to install FreeBSD 12.1 on my ThinkPad. I burned an image to > > USB from freebsd.org, install went through ok but ran into "startx" > issues > > (Cannot run in framebuffer mod...). Tried a few suggestions on google but > > nothing worked;( > Does your ThinkPad have Intel graphics? If so, drm-kmod kernel module > is needed, however the one from pkg will cause kernel panic since 12.1 > uses 12.x packages, which containing a build of the module that is only > for 12.0... A known issue: > https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/kms-drm/issues/183 > > It must be built from its port instead: > $ make -C /usr/ports/graphics/drm-kmod install > > Binary packages may be used otherwise. > > Sorry if this wasn't the problem - there wasn't enough information to go > on in your message. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 27 14:53:42 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B859E1AE39B for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 14:53:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@dismail.de) Received: from mx1.dismail.de (mx1.dismail.de [78.46.223.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.dismail.de", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NP0j2cZ8z497G for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 14:53:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@dismail.de) Received: from dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 7e4c4059 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 15:53:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp1.dismail.de (10.240.26.11 [10.240.26.11]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 4003d4c7 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 15:53:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp1.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 7499528c for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 15:53:38 +0100 (CET) Received: by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 69c016e8 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO) for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 15:53:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 09:53:28 -0500 From: Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: unbound Message-ID: <20191127095328.68ea5c67@dismail.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47NP0j2cZ8z497G X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.29 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[dismail.de:s=20190914]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; SH_EMAIL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[0.0.3.85]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.46.223.134]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[dismail.de.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; IP_SCORE(-2.19)[ip: (-9.91), ipnet: 78.46.0.0/15(0.55), asn: 24940(-1.57), country: DE(-0.01)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[dismail.de:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[dismail.de,reject]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; MISSING_TO(2.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[134.223.46.78.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:78.46.0.0/15, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; SH_EMAIL_ZRD(0.00)[0.0.3.85] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 14:53:42 -0000 Hi! I did setup on FreeBSD 12.1-RELEASE-p1 for DNS over TLS use local_unbound fron the base OS. In /var/unbound I have control.conf forward.conf lan-zones.conf root.key unbound.conf In unbound.conf I have: -- # This file was generated by local-unbound-setup. # Modifications will be overwritten. server: username: unbound directory: /var/unbound chroot: /var/unbound pidfile: /var/run/local_unbound.pid auto-trust-anchor-file: /var/unbound/root.key include: /var/unbound/forward.conf include: /var/unbound/lan-zones.conf include: /var/unbound/control.conf include: /var/unbound/conf.d/*.conf and in forward.conf I put: # This file was generated by local-unbound-setup. # Modifications will be overwritten. forward-zone: name: "." forward-tls-upstream: yes forward-addr: 80.241.218.68@853 When I run local-unbound -checkconf I got: [1574865868] local-unbound[76851:0] error: Could not open heckconf: No such file or directory=20 [1574865868] local-unbound[76851:0] warning:Continuing with default config = settings=20 [1574865868]local-unbound[76851:0] error: bind: address already in use=20 [1574865868]local-unbound[76851:0] fatal error: could not open ports What I am doing wrong, please? Should I switch to unbound from ports? 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charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 01:15:42PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: >On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 03:37:39 +0000, tech-lists wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Got a new ssd so tried latest snapshot install to it. I wanted seperate = /usr >> /var and / partitions, also to enable trim, also two 16GB swap partition= s, >> so selected manual UFS, completed the install, reboot, cannot find kerne= l. > >Did you do this using the bsdinstall program, or manually >via shell? I don't know specifically if it was the bsdinstall program. I guess it was.= It was whatever is invoked after booting the install disk/image and then selecting "Install". >> Repeated the install the same way again with same result. Rebooted, ran >> the installer for a third time, selected auto ufs and everything worked >> as expected on reboot, but of course without the modifications I wanted. >> >> Is this a known issue? > >Even though bsdinstall isn't that bad, I personally prefer >to prepare the disk via shell commands manually before I >return to bsdinstall, add the created partitions, and have >the installer do it's work, in case I needed something that >is "non-standard" (as you've described). This is because of >my impression (I wouldn't call it an issue though) that the >bsdinstall program doesn't understand when you leave its >predefined path... ;-) I'd say if it's not working as suggested or implied then it's broken, or why have the manual option at all? I don't expect the consequence of selecting this option to be "doesn't install a kernel" or "everything is installed, i= t's just not bootable" without notification. I've not encountered the issue before because my installation context is mostly bhyve-based so I just accept the defaults. Because this is bare meta= l, I was hoping to optimise the SSD somewhat. >> Also, MBR is selected by default. SHould I be using GPT instead, nowaday= s? >Probably yes. Use GPT. Use MBR only if you have a good reason >to do so (inter-OS things might be such a case). There should be a reason why this is selected as default. "Most x86 systems" isn't enough. I'd fix this if I knew how. 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I wanted seperate /usr > >> /var and / partitions, also to enable trim, also two 16GB swap partitions, > >> so selected manual UFS, completed the install, reboot, cannot find kernel. > > > >Did you do this using the bsdinstall program, or manually > >via shell? > > I don't know specifically if it was the bsdinstall program. I guess it was. It > was whatever is invoked after booting the install disk/image and then > selecting "Install". Yes, that all is "bsdinstall", the successor of "sysinstall" (the dialog-driven installer program of older FreeBSD versions). > >> Repeated the install the same way again with same result. Rebooted, ran > >> the installer for a third time, selected auto ufs and everything worked > >> as expected on reboot, but of course without the modifications I wanted. > >> > >> Is this a known issue? > > > >Even though bsdinstall isn't that bad, I personally prefer > >to prepare the disk via shell commands manually before I > >return to bsdinstall, add the created partitions, and have > >the installer do it's work, in case I needed something that > >is "non-standard" (as you've described). This is because of > >my impression (I wouldn't call it an issue though) that the > >bsdinstall program doesn't understand when you leave its > >predefined path... ;-) > > I'd say if it's not working as suggested or implied then it's broken, or why > have the manual option at all? The manual option is something you need to use if you want to do non-standard (but possible) things that the installer does not include. For example, a dedicated installation (the one without either MBR or GPT) requires you to prepare the disk using shell commands, and then return to the installer to write the files to those filesystems. So its presence is not a sign of brokenness, but a convenient means to do more than the installer allows you to do. There is no one-size-fits-all egg-laying wool-milk-sow. :-) > I don't expect the consequence of selecting > this option to be "doesn't install a kernel" or "everything is installed, it's > just not bootable" without notification. Fully agree. The default installation should work, and little deviations from that predefined procedure should work as well. Personally, I consider the "separate partitions approach" as a little deviation, not as something totally non-standard or obscure. However, my very individual impression is that bsdinstall works well for the standard paths of doing things, but does not so for anything more... "non-preprogrammed". In the past, as I have to admit, I preferred the dialog-driven setup method for disks of ye olde sysinstall - the slice editor and the partition editor. Now I mostly use the shell to prepare the disk (in "non-standard ways", if I may use this term now for anything that bsdinstall doesn't directly map to), and then return to the installer, make certain settings as needed, and continue with the actual installation. Getting the "boot chain" working for such "non-standard ways" seems to be a bit tricky for bsdinstall, so I'll do that myself. > I've not encountered the issue before because my installation context is > mostly bhyve-based so I just accept the defaults. Because this is bare metal, > I was hoping to optimise the SSD somewhat. Yes, there are several things you can do to optimize for SSD use. Part of it is custom newfs options, but if I remember correctly, bsdinstall doesn't allow you to add those - you'll need to use the shell to run newfs with the desired options manually, at least that's what I tend to do. :-) > >> Also, MBR is selected by default. SHould I be using GPT instead, nowadays? > > >Probably yes. Use GPT. Use MBR only if you have a good reason > >to do so (inter-OS things might be such a case). > > There should be a reason why this is selected as default. "Most x86 systems" > isn't enough. I'd fix this if I knew how. What is the GPT advantage? GPT can rightfully be understood as the successor of MBR. While MBR is considered legacy, and mostly only matters in cases where either your computer system (here: the BIOS) has problems dealing with GPT, or you have a multi-OS setup where involved systems do have those problems, only in such cases you'll have to use MBR. MBR brings you certain disadvantages and limitations that _might_ not matter in those special cases, but GPT is typically a lot easier to deal with. MBR has been introduced primarily because of PCs and their understanding of "DOS primary partitions", which GPT finally abandoned for a more consistent way of creating and managing partitions of disks. Conclusion: Rule: Use GPT. Sidenote: Use "dedicated" if you know what you're doing, and why. :-) Old standard: MBR New standard: GPT Non-standard: dedicated (also known as "very old standard"). You can find a good comparison of the different structure here: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html The tools you use from the shell are usually gpart and newfs (for GPT and MBR), but in case of MBR only, you can even use the old tools fdisk, disklabel (bsdlabel), boot0cfg, and newfs, they still work as expected. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Many thanks! On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 9:34 PM Kevin P. Neal wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 11:02:15AM -0500, Kevin P. Neal wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 07:50:59PM +0530, vm finance wrote: > > > Hi Theron, > > > > > > I tried to do: > > > pkg install drm-kmod > > > > > > It installed ok but still startx fails "Cannot run in framebuffer mode. > > > Please specify busIDs for all framebuffer devices" > > > please let me know how to workaround this. > > > > My wild guess is that the kernel module installed by that port isn't > loaded > > yet. Use 'pkg info drm-kmod' to see what files get installed by the port. > > That's "pkg info -l drm-kmod". > > Sorry! > > > I expect there's something added to /boot/modules that should be loaded. > > > > My hope is that someone who knows the finer points will speak up now. > > > > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 10:05 AM Theron > wrote: > > > > > > > On 2019-11-26 23:08, vm finance wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > I am trying to install FreeBSD 12.1 on my ThinkPad. I burned an > image to > > > > > USB from freebsd.org, install went through ok but ran into > "startx" > > > > issues > > > > > (Cannot run in framebuffer mod...). Tried a few suggestions on > google but > > > > > nothing worked;( > > > > Does your ThinkPad have Intel graphics? If so, drm-kmod kernel > module > > > > is needed, however the one from pkg will cause kernel panic since > 12.1 > > > > uses 12.x packages, which containing a build of the module that is > only > > > > for 12.0... A known issue: > > > > https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/kms-drm/issues/183 > > > > > > > > It must be built from its port instead: > > > > $ make -C /usr/ports/graphics/drm-kmod install > > > > > > > > Binary packages may be used otherwise. > > > > > > > > Sorry if this wasn't the problem - there wasn't enough information > to go > > > > on in your message. > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > > Kevin P. Neal from "Crito" by Plato, 360 BCE: > > "But why, my dear Crito, should we care about the opinion of the many? > > Good men, and they are the persons who are worth considering, will > > think of these things truly as they happened." - Socrates > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- > Kevin P. 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RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[denninger.net,none]; IP_SCORE(-2.47)[ip: (-9.83), ipnet: 104.236.64.0/18(-4.36), asn: 14061(1.91), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+,3:~,4:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14061, ipnet:104.236.64.0/18, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[197.57.1.68.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11] X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 16:18:39 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090802030205070506030303 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/27/2019 10:14, vm finance wrote: > Well, now after installing drm-kmod, system is in continuous reboot mod= e..;( > Anything possible now? > > Many thanks! > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 9:34 PM Kevin P. Neal wro= te: > >> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 11:02:15AM -0500, Kevin P. Neal wrote: >>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 07:50:59PM +0530, vm finance wrote: >>>> Hi Theron, >>>> >>>> I tried to do: >>>> pkg install drm-kmod >>>> >>>> It installed ok but still startx fails "Cannot run in framebuffer mo= de. >>>> Please specify busIDs for all framebuffer devices" >>>> please let me know how to workaround this. >>> Known issue. Reboot single-user as root, get the X startup out of there. You need to load the drm-kmod PORT (**NOT** package) and compile it.=C2=A0= What's happening is that pkg is picking up 12.0's package for drm-kmod and the ABI changed with 12.1, so if you load it you get an instant crash= =2E The other thing, however, is that if you use pkg you need to be VERY CAREFUL when updating packages because it will "see" that the drm-kmod is not the same version and try to pull the other one back in, and if you let that happen it'll blow up again. 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RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[19.123.147.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:64.147.123.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-3.51)[ip: (-9.89), ipnet: 64.147.123.0/24(-4.91), asn: 11403(-2.68), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 16:37:05 -0000 --J5MfuwkIyy7RmF4Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 05:10:26PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: >Yes, there are several things you can do to optimize for SSD use. >Part of it is custom newfs options, but if I remember correctly, >bsdinstall doesn't allow you to add those - you'll need to use >the shell to run newfs with the desired options manually, at least >that's what I tend to do. :-) Trim is selectable under [selected partition] -> options of the manual ufs partitioning section of bsdinstall in the r354923 snapshot I used. Regardless, my basic tenet still stands. If it's there as an option, it sho= uld work. I think it's reasonable to think having it there and not work is brok= en=20 by most people's definition. The fact that there's an alternative manual way is good, but immaterial in the context. Having it there and not work is not= a good look for what could be a users first encounter with FreeBSD, nevermind someone like myself who has been using FreeBSD for over two decades. thanks, --=20 J. --J5MfuwkIyy7RmF4Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEE8n3tWhxW11Ccvv9/s8o7QhFzNAUFAl3epiIACgkQs8o7QhFz NAV1bRAAnxQmH3oM5hzlsn9Z0Oemg93qMVzqM2v06nANmjVZNpeh0ohLazOABjo8 k8I9nWBsKWEPw4v8QrA+GVSh/POduUv3wP7+bFk3QrlFWMBJ8fiRxzjO7ZTrgk+O mMw37qw3bGsIeE0hqUqyovgcR0dtvjlR3M3vj4yywM+XMJI+SOWc/71zwhnWLeCJ d/To8Y0xRlAho/L59sgu4cmuHJqsAM5mQ36NaFST4hu2QP9pWVPt2bcul628vPTV tLOvcb7v1mQFa+kvO7Wh+C3OckvndgodNWfmrKFKptSIYA3iTCEEOV/6b9rDykHg 5JS54t9blXKB8C4eHLViraSLvOGAdezy/kEK+qan2rwMR57mSq42iVG6ylB4Oqye 4wC5rJDXymwi4yG43KYj0tGehiGWiAaLZj/X+99MSmnFl8P3bnMmFcIdes0Kt+Ia aAj2GK9SruCuucBR6OBZ4Qwqw0Swgn6bC9AYnNkMwpRdtUi1mLrDa/bfTqoDKYTB J1w6d3dPe5aIBwcKCxCiEdYKDM5aGzO8RnlyxDi9Vqm2WUeWjNjxtrIby5OchRsE mMIJzmyO9vzKJuoLzi32xsiOD0k4CAO+Y6fhXHM4sSiRpGr3uwRqbeMIFLC5JmYN +ejpg2KYQbD2ce8RT+JHmBtlRPgp/Op/BAibrO00h0YQDLF/nfk= =BAqk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J5MfuwkIyy7RmF4Q-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 27 16:48:41 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20661B146F for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 16:48:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx32.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NRYN4CVxz4HC1 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 16:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (localhost [127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F7F1FF74 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 11:48:38 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.32.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S-yQVYNcpc10 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 11:48:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (webmail.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.106]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BB2121FF69 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 11:48:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 11:48:33 -0500 Message-ID: <4d6ddb1dae5865ba9dad6142340ab42d.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 11:48:33 -0500 Subject: FreeBSD-12 logcheck From: "James B. 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In it I see messages similar to the following: Nov 26 07:02:43 vhost04 sshd[28949]: Bad protocol version identification '\026\003\001' from 77.247.109.57 port 53786 This is basically noise most likely generated by some self-propagating malware. If wish to eliminate this from the report. I added this to /usr/local/etc/logcheck/violations.ignore.d/local-sshd: ^\w{3} [ :[:digit:]]{11} .*sshd\[.*\]: Bad protocol version identification.* I checked this regexp against the reported string and it matches. Why then are these still being reported? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 27 17:03:01 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 467481B1CDD for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 17:03:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Received: from mailout.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [64.68.202.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NRst5B6lz4JG4 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 17:02:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD529C83B1; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 17:02:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout.easydns.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (emo12-pco.easydns.vpn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Bx9ZJyhk1GEX; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 17:02:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hedeland.org (81-228-157-209-no289.tbcn.telia.com [81.228.157.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ADD73C7928; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 17:02:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pluto.hedeland.org (pluto.hedeland.org [10.1.1.5]) by tellus.hedeland.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id xARH2nQE023300 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Nov 2019 18:02:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Subject: Re: unbound To: starikarp@dismail.de Cc: FreeBSD Questions References: <20191127095328.68ea5c67@dismail.de> From: Per Hedeland Message-ID: <1fa78a24-6303-9ec5-2522-3acc34be8942@hedeland.org> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 18:02:49 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20191127095328.68ea5c67@dismail.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47NRst5B6lz4JG4 X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of per@hedeland.org has no SPF policy when checking 64.68.202.10) smtp.mailfrom=per@hedeland.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.80 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[209.157.228.81.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hedeland.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.74)[0.738,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.75)[0.747,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[10.202.68.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16686, ipnet:64.68.200.0/22, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.51)[ip: (0.78), ipnet: 64.68.200.0/22(0.14), asn: 16686(1.73), country: CA(-0.09)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 17:03:01 -0000 On 2019-11-27 15:53, ajtiM via freebsd-questions wrote: > When I run local-unbound -checkconf I got: > [1574865868] local-unbound[76851:0] error: Could not open heckconf: No > such file or directory > [1574865868] local-unbound[76851:0] warning:Continuing with default config settings > [1574865868]local-unbound[76851:0] error: bind: address already in use > [1574865868]local-unbound[76851:0] fatal error: could not open ports > > What I am doing wrong, please? Try using local-unbound-checkconf which checks the config file in the default location, instead of local-unbound -checkconf which says to start local-unbound with a config file called 'heckconf', as you might conclude from the first error reported. See the man pages. --Per Hedeland From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 27 17:13:17 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E67361B20DC for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 17:13:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-x131.google.com (mail-il1-x131.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::131]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NS5l6Pjcz4Jqs for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 17:13:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-x131.google.com with SMTP id f6so17674241ilh.9 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 09:13:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=G/9/Q/PnUbY3UA+0zl6Am4gLiUOTCmD/JuIweQnTdQk=; b=sNNsWW+m83M/ZrELJ/6U+kArOMoxTyUJekPudi0F30QnNO7m1cK7MRy+vqSRb27fft HuMwMyMnvb9GaVNDsWvySrUYYEMPOSf+GM7PAkrtjOt0/9mAki58mdzKEDRJMRHlkCGq avj7SJO8xgL1NZ4RBvFtq+dvhYS6e8MYOjL1MYbs7LaXcimCFYKQ9ZxbAAGRG0QLqA2y LtX4o+ocWGXiNGCW8mMgOs5vQax0jTZcP2if5pvMr/QNJreUcQlM7aT4YzAT6iFMYgLb 9aa0Z28BaB0od7oFA1kqnxI/8D4V4QcLXhj4P3vglBjZlwJo1nG3wU4r5JSOwqCwAJVo UuUA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=G/9/Q/PnUbY3UA+0zl6Am4gLiUOTCmD/JuIweQnTdQk=; b=qZb9SJ3feMt+x9EVjSGxh5xAZ279xW//A9upSQNos3ZY5ye979MwZY8XfN+2EMsqGP bCx8IoERoIhb176w4FWzr03rboJqXN5XKwHAb3G6EQcC9NtF6a1EMc4tv3tg25/j0r2G l3ZmSrZxXRBkK2z5VNzIO9n9e20wT8MCRX6Rtwu3Ry3EUBbpQKmFNofPAa2heY44t7r5 vJMWTuA4Hx8jMdRU0FCs1uLuVuhqpxv8x8Uq39T5IDL1SyjN8qKgqiu/Qwlf5flJNciY sS2s8R/w3ArH6824TbbhM8MOoIpT3CSJaU/J1TLb6FGQ5PQtVYyDlbKWEdJC1A8ucpGB jajA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAU1njKZIWHpnTQCXbWWL9lnTcIZxdVf4Ddf+DlYsgQIL5yAAF6C +hukDnKrthQZTYZvQWgx0Ezw+R9dsiNqcmR5iA/4Jg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwOOO5iUQUMbwWfOgFn0vnFfIsjbrqV2gLiVGwQ59s34v/GpoWt7eBr4iVRJEYIYhmcHusLZxcc0Q+NiWPR/r0= X-Received: by 2002:a92:6f05:: with SMTP id k5mr44141010ilc.98.1574874793050; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 09:13:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <18414268-96b1-6112-2c91-345aea9e7f24@gmail.com> <20191127160215.GA69810@neutralgood.org> <20191127160441.GB69810@neutralgood.org> <30022fe5-800e-0a9a-fff6-8edb0171e153@denninger.net> In-Reply-To: <30022fe5-800e-0a9a-fff6-8edb0171e153@denninger.net> From: vm finance Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:43:03 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: Karl Denninger Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47NS5l6Pjcz4Jqs X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=sNNsWW+m; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vmfinance2@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::131 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vmfinance2@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.3.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-8.01), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.27), asn: 15169(-1.95), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 17:13:18 -0000 Ok - I deleted that faulty line from /etc/rc.conf and now system boots up. and tried: #kldload drm-kmod and fails saying "can't load drm-kmod: no such file/directory". Per another google post, it tried: #kldload drm2, and that worked (i.e. loaded) However startx is still failing - same framebuffer error. Could someone suggest how to fix this? Thanks so much for your help! On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 9:48 PM Karl Denninger wrote: > On 11/27/2019 10:14, vm finance wrote: > > Well, now after installing drm-kmod, system is in continuous reboot > mode..;( > > Anything possible now? > > > > Many thanks! > > > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 9:34 PM Kevin P. Neal > wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 11:02:15AM -0500, Kevin P. Neal wrote: > >>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 07:50:59PM +0530, vm finance wrote: > >>>> Hi Theron, > >>>> > >>>> I tried to do: > >>>> pkg install drm-kmod > >>>> > >>>> It installed ok but still startx fails "Cannot run in framebuffer > mode. > >>>> Please specify busIDs for all framebuffer devices" > >>>> please let me know how to workaround this. > >>> > Known issue. > > Reboot single-user as root, get the X startup out of there. > > You need to load the drm-kmod PORT (**NOT** package) and compile it. > What's happening is that pkg is picking up 12.0's package for drm-kmod > and the ABI changed with 12.1, so if you load it you get an instant crash. > > The other thing, however, is that if you use pkg you need to be VERY > CAREFUL when updating packages because it will "see" that the drm-kmod > is not the same version and try to pull the other one back in, and if > you let that happen it'll blow up again. > > Yeah, it's a screw-up but that's how you get around it. > > -- > Karl Denninger > karl@denninger.net > /The Market Ticker/ > /[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/ > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 27 17:28:27 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162F11B25D7 for ; 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I'm maintainer of this port. From: "James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions" Subject: FreeBSD-12 logcheck Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 11:48:33 -0500 > I have installed logcheck on a test machine and get the daily report. > In it I see messages similar to the following: > > Nov 26 07:02:43 vhost04 sshd[28949]: Bad protocol version > identification '\026\003\001' from 77.247.109.57 port 53786 If you saw this message in report mail by logcheck, it must be as follwowing. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nov 26 07:02:43 vhost04 sshd[28949]: Bad protocol version identification '\026\003\001' from 77.247.109.57 port 53786 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Therefore, > This is basically noise most likely generated by some self-propagating > malware. If wish to eliminate this from the report. I added this to > /usr/local/etc/logcheck/violations.ignore.d/local-sshd: > > > ^\w{3} [ :[:digit:]]{11} .*sshd\[.*\]: Bad protocol > version identification.* This pattern should be ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ^\w{3} [ :[:digit:]]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sshd\[[[:digit:]]+\]: Bad protocol version identification.* ---------------------------------------------------------------------- and it need to be written to /usr/local/etc/logcheck/ignore.d.server/local-ssh unless you change the value of REPORTLEVEL in /usr/local/etc/logcheck/logcheck.conf. --- Yasuhiro KIMURA From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 27 17:39:16 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F081B2AD2 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 17:39:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karl@denninger.net) Received: from colo1.denninger.net (colo1.denninger.net [104.236.120.189]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NSgm33K1z4Ky7 for ; 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Yes.=C2=A0 Load the ports subsystem, compile drm-kmod from source and ins= tall it, as I said before. 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<20191127160215.GA69810@neutralgood.org> <20191127160441.GB69810@neutralgood.org> <30022fe5-800e-0a9a-fff6-8edb0171e153@denninger.net> In-Reply-To: From: Daniele Mazzotti Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 18:53:58 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: vm finance Cc: Karl Denninger , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47NT0w2M3kz4M5R X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=FF17WWb+; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kappei84@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::443 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kappei84@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (2.50), 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List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 17:54:09 -0000 Hi, I don't know if that is relevant, but in my rc.conf I have kld_list="/boot/modules/i915kms.ko" This was added specifically for my Intel graphic card. What is yours? If you decide to go for pkg add drm-kmod do not forget to lock the port and prevent it from upgrading. Il mer 27 nov 2019, 18:13 vm finance ha scritto: > Ok - I deleted that faulty line from /etc/rc.conf and now system boots up. > and tried: > #kldload drm-kmod > and fails saying "can't load drm-kmod: no such file/directory". > > Per another google post, it tried: > #kldload drm2, and that worked (i.e. loaded) > However startx is still failing - same framebuffer error. > > Could someone suggest how to fix this? > > Thanks so much for your help! > > > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 9:48 PM Karl Denninger wrote: > > > On 11/27/2019 10:14, vm finance wrote: > > > Well, now after installing drm-kmod, system is in continuous reboot > > mode..;( > > > Anything possible now? > > > > > > Many thanks! > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 9:34 PM Kevin P. Neal > > wrote: > > > > > >> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 11:02:15AM -0500, Kevin P. Neal wrote: > > >>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 07:50:59PM +0530, vm finance wrote: > > >>>> Hi Theron, > > >>>> > > >>>> I tried to do: > > >>>> pkg install drm-kmod > > >>>> > > >>>> It installed ok but still startx fails "Cannot run in framebuffer > > mode. > > >>>> Please specify busIDs for all framebuffer devices" > > >>>> please let me know how to workaround this. > > >>> > > Known issue. > > > > Reboot single-user as root, get the X startup out of there. > > > > You need to load the drm-kmod PORT (**NOT** package) and compile it. > > What's happening is that pkg is picking up 12.0's package for drm-kmod > > and the ABI changed with 12.1, so if you load it you get an instant > crash. > > > > The other thing, however, is that if you use pkg you need to be VERY > > CAREFUL when updating packages because it will "see" that the drm-kmod > > is not the same version and try to pull the other one back in, and if > > you let that happen it'll blow up again. > > > > Yeah, it's a screw-up but that's how you get around it. > > > > -- > > Karl Denninger > > karl@denninger.net > > /The Market Ticker/ > > /[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/ > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 27 18:33:28 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA541B4269 for ; 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I actually have "Pro-level NVIDIA=C2=AE Quadro=C2=AE P500 graphics" on my P= 52S Thinkpad. Not sure if 12.1 has native support for this, or do I need to download/build this. Per the discussions on this topic, I think I should stay away from pkg ..drm-kmod Thank you On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 11:24 PM Daniele Mazzotti wrote: > Hi, > > I don't know if that is relevant, but in my rc.conf I have > > kld_list=3D"/boot/modules/i915kms.ko" > > This was added specifically for my Intel graphic card. What is yours? > > If you decide to go for pkg add drm-kmod do not forget to lock the port > and prevent it from upgrading. > > Il mer 27 nov 2019, 18:13 vm finance ha scritto: > >> Ok - I deleted that faulty line from /etc/rc.conf and now system boots u= p. >> and tried: >> #kldload drm-kmod >> and fails saying "can't load drm-kmod: no such file/directory". >> >> Per another google post, it tried: >> #kldload drm2, and that worked (i.e. loaded) >> However startx is still failing - same framebuffer error. >> >> Could someone suggest how to fix this? >> >> Thanks so much for your help! >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 9:48 PM Karl Denninger >> wrote: >> >> > On 11/27/2019 10:14, vm finance wrote: >> > > Well, now after installing drm-kmod, system is in continuous reboot >> > mode..;( >> > > Anything possible now? >> > > >> > > Many thanks! >> > > >> > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 9:34 PM Kevin P. Neal >> > wrote: >> > > >> > >> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 11:02:15AM -0500, Kevin P. Neal wrote: >> > >>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 07:50:59PM +0530, vm finance wrote: >> > >>>> Hi Theron, >> > >>>> >> > >>>> I tried to do: >> > >>>> pkg install drm-kmod >> > >>>> >> > >>>> It installed ok but still startx fails "Cannot run in framebuffer >> > mode. >> > >>>> Please specify busIDs for all framebuffer devices" >> > >>>> please let me know how to workaround this. >> > >>> >> > Known issue. >> > >> > Reboot single-user as root, get the X startup out of there. >> > >> > You need to load the drm-kmod PORT (**NOT** package) and compile it. >> > What's happening is that pkg is picking up 12.0's package for drm-kmod >> > and the ABI changed with 12.1, so if you load it you get an instant >> crash. >> > >> > The other thing, however, is that if you use pkg you need to be VERY >> > CAREFUL when updating packages because it will "see" that the drm-kmod >> > is not the same version and try to pull the other one back in, and if >> > you let that happen it'll blow up again. >> > >> > Yeah, it's a screw-up but that's how you get around it. >> > >> > -- >> > Karl Denninger >> > karl@denninger.net >> > /The Market Ticker/ >> > /[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/ >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 27 19:05:31 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6381B4ED3 for ; 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Well, that is correct, but there may be other options you _might_ want to customize for a SSD - with no dialog equivalent in bsdinstall, in this case, stuff listed in "man newfs". > Regardless, my basic tenet still stands. If it's there as an option, it should > work. I think it's reasonable to think having it there and not work is broken > by most people's definition. Yes, I fully agree with this reasoning. It's a good help, but it should not be _required_ to get something standard working. The only thing I could imagine in your situation is that you somehow (and I have absolutely no idea _how_ this could be possible) that you forgot some step during installation definition. It's typical for the installation process to overwrite anything it finds on the disk, so if a normal way of booting (here: MBR standard boot record for first slice, "a" partition) has been selected, all the required parts should be there. Of course the kernel also should have been placed into /boot (on the / partition where the process mentioned above will lead to). > The fact that there's an alternative manual way > is good, but immaterial in the context. Having it there and not work is not a > good look for what could be a users first encounter with FreeBSD, nevermind > someone like myself who has been using FreeBSD for over two decades. Definitely true. This will probably require some further testing and exact monitoring of the steps you do. If it is a problem in 12.1-STABLE, it's surely due to a fix. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 27 19:22:51 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B0B1B588C; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:22:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd36.google.com (mail-io1-xd36.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d36]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NVzG3TBKz4Rj9; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:22:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd36.google.com with SMTP id z193so26176769iof.1; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 11:22:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=8nqJvDpDO3G4WxXjrB3xZFe7ybQiO9cvOcI19XYZsjM=; b=ukvtlGDJoJ5VjvskyD4v6IuQKe2jJWqn8wDLg/5tb49BCyrZV+GO9JWZQZjT1VS50Q kNBNEVENkgVrNz/fwA2w5UwUCBJ6VjjGxiZ1mq+KfDOKhtgASvCuuul0tDWwBgj7MtOv xTJ3cEf/jqCtyALf93GCUkZz6LQPDbb5j595dy3xA011kG7XaKaDW0U50cupoIneVyYL Lw9CTcR25JhZNhlKd5LR89Ymo+vxR1O5X2d1CCMPuZutcFtbH6I4Oos+ivLV9iPUeNOY m2BdnWfqM13k1lnrJZPFHUwtRCe7xxET3Vd5CSOagV1E577W5Hu1+oem4GOevzAvDa1K Vvpw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=8nqJvDpDO3G4WxXjrB3xZFe7ybQiO9cvOcI19XYZsjM=; b=GvIyx6pGzxPxZAcE4NARVRxxush7vox6muVyaA+wKuotN0rmFriBv4zzxyupZDa40O hUmPQiCO//8iczBZ0TuksmDLCaYamReC4fRFMxdUgS+zS53I5NBzO0yoI+4rQJbtm2c2 Govn3mTmz5gU6bRoUTxj/fO8j8p4PvYXmGLQFJUjw7P9yrj3m9JzLrxtg0PpVAjJSw2C abp0mPCuSlEs8q4O4KmVyT0IlWAj1T7tAoSFn56qwktnhBUij4Ta2xSRbLEFluVosdrM NzIkIBB8I+w9wEGzq9uq+ZKDQvTqCYYSdsTibTu0ESl35X4YAAqDh23yQX00DFzojD8Z f0GQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXlMBwkE9pxAZjfPyPPw/PTyjzKAiY+ckpsE5vR2uCz1wAQI9BA 7B4ncmM0+me22fnh0O9w/zZvsNL4Vz0ADw4nuS8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwn7qRbqkLYudV4FcPA4fWJMZgJdvDYE7z2DfisECrReaIqnG7bjX+4AyjygOrUJ25OyeAdyJxcs5TefzJ0iVo= X-Received: by 2002:a5e:9249:: with SMTP id z9mr7073516iop.36.1574882569273; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 11:22:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <18414268-96b1-6112-2c91-345aea9e7f24@gmail.com> <20191127160215.GA69810@neutralgood.org> <20191127160441.GB69810@neutralgood.org> <0e484b77-afac-670d-5c34-381862388283@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <0e484b77-afac-670d-5c34-381862388283@gmail.com> From: vm finance Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 00:52:38 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: Theron Cc: "Kevin P. 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I also tried to "kldload drm.ko" - still no luck! BTW, if I go back to 12.0 RELEASE, would that solve the problem? Ultimately, I need to rebuild with latest sources anyways to experiment something w/ TCP stack, so hopefully going back to 12.0 should fix - thoughts, please? Any other ideas? Thanks a lot! On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 12:36 AM Theron wrote: > > On 2019-11-27 09:20, vm finance wrote: > > I tried to do: > > pkg install drm-kmod > > On 2019-11-27 11:14, vm finance wrote: > > Well, now after installing drm-kmod, system is in continuous reboot > > mode..;( > > Anything possible now? > > Sounds like this could be from the kernel panic I warned about. Please > do (before attempting startx): > > make -C /usr/ports/graphics/drm-kmod deinstall clean install > > Then reboot and try again. > That will remove the drm-kmod from pkg (which is for 12.0 kernel) and > build the module for your 12.1 installation's kernel. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 27 19:52:23 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46761B657F; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:52:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NWdL457Sz4TtZ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:52:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([188.102.99.44]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1McY4R-1hxhmS1oaL-00cyph; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 20:46:53 +0100 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 20:46:49 +0100 From: Polytropon To: vm finance Cc: Theron , "Kevin P. 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Did you also install the X driver for your graphics card? If you have a Thinkpad, I guess it contains Intel graphics. What does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say about that? > BTW, if I go back to 12.0 RELEASE, would that solve the problem? It would at least solve the ABI incompatibility problem. Currently I have a system running v12.0-p7 with the following configuration: In /boot/loader.conf: i915kms_load="YES" I have installed the xf86-video-intel package for X, and X starts without any configuration file. I also don't have anything DRM-related in any of the system configuration files. But X works as expected. > Ultimately, I need to rebuild with latest sources anyways to experiment > something w/ TCP stack, > so hopefully going back to 12.0 should fix - thoughts, please? If you get the latest OS sources and obtain a current ports tree, things should be in sync again. But don't use pkg to update your system in such a case without carefully locking the DRM kernel module port as mentioned before. > Any other ideas? Thanks a lot! Check if all components needed for X are actually installed. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 27 20:33:15 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 613131B7C0F; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 20:33:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from tamanoir.foucry.net (boulangerie.foucry.net [62.210.131.96]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NXXT5Jwkz4Y2r; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 20:33:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from tamanoir.foucry.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tamanoir.foucry.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90EA154CA; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 21:33:04 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at foucry.net Received: from tamanoir.foucry.net ([127.0.0.1]) by tamanoir.foucry.net (mail.foucry.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5lTqbZ2cI04D; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 21:33:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from mithril.localdomain (dontpanic.foucry.net [80.67.176.134]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tamanoir.foucry.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E4BB554C9; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 21:33:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from foucry.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mithril.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3DF11779; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 21:33:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 21:33:05 +0100 From: Jacques Foucry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop Message-ID: <20191127203305.GB98045@foucry.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.2 (2019-09-21) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47NXXT5Jwkz4Y2r X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=foucry.net (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jacques@foucry.net has no SPF policy when checking 62.210.131.96) smtp.mailfrom=jacques@foucry.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.32 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.33)[ip: (-1.68), ipnet: 62.210.0.0/16(-0.03), asn: 12876(0.08), country: FR(-0.00)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12876, ipnet:62.210.0.0/16, country:FR]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[freebsd]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[foucry.net : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 20:33:15 -0000 Le mercredi 27 nov. 2019 =E0 09:38:59 (+0530), vm finance =E0 =E9crit: >=20 Hello, > Any pointers/suggestions highly appreciated! May you could find some useful information on my blog. It's one of the english/french blog post I made: https://adminblog.foucry.net/posts/info/freebsd-thinkpad/ > Thanks a lot! Hope this help, --=20 Jacques Foucry From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 27 21:29:35 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC841B99DC for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 21:29:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@dismail.de) Received: from mx1.dismail.de (mx1.dismail.de [78.46.223.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.dismail.de", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NYnT62WXz4dpF for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 21:29:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@dismail.de) Received: from dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 9a014803; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:29:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp1.dismail.de (10.240.26.11 [10.240.26.11]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 95cbfef6; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:29:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp1.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 9f1403ed; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:29:31 +0100 (CET) Received: by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 3a5f1755 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:29:31 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 16:29:25 -0500 From: To: Per Hedeland Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: unbound Message-ID: <20191127162925.05f83887@dismail.de> In-Reply-To: <1fa78a24-6303-9ec5-2522-3acc34be8942@hedeland.org> References: <20191127095328.68ea5c67@dismail.de> <1fa78a24-6303-9ec5-2522-3acc34be8942@hedeland.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47NYnT62WXz4dpF X-Spamd-Bar: ------ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.29 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[dismail.de:s=20190914]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.46.223.134]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-2.19)[ip: (-9.91), ipnet: 78.46.0.0/15(0.53), asn: 24940(-1.57), country: DE(-0.01)]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[dismail.de.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[dismail.de:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[dismail.de,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[134.223.46.78.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:78.46.0.0/15, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 21:29:35 -0000 On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 18:02:49 +0100 Per Hedeland wrote: > On 2019-11-27 15:53, ajtiM via freebsd-questions wrote: >=20 > >=20 > > When I run local-unbound -checkconf I got: > > [1574865868] local-unbound[76851:0] error: Could not open heckconf: > > No such file or directory > > [1574865868] local-unbound[76851:0] warning:Continuing with default > > config settings [1574865868]local-unbound[76851:0] error: bind: > > address already in use [1574865868]local-unbound[76851:0] fatal > > error: could not open ports > >=20 > > What I am doing wrong, please? >=20 > Try using >=20 > local-unbound-checkconf >=20 > which checks the config file in the default location, instead of >=20 > local-unbound -checkconf >=20 > which says to start local-unbound with a config file called > 'heckconf', as you might conclude from the first error reported. >=20 > See the man pages. >=20 > --Per Hedeland Thank you, no errors. --=20 =E2=80=9Cgood people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws=E2=80=9D=20 Plato From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 00:04:35 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0711BC533 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 00:04:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NdDK3zz3z3H8X for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 00:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from rain.home (pool-72-74-69-77.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [72.74.69.77]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47NdDJ2V0Cz1rFp for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:04:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <18414268-96b1-6112-2c91-345aea9e7f24@gmail.com> <20191127160215.GA69810@neutralgood.org> <20191127160441.GB69810@neutralgood.org> <30022fe5-800e-0a9a-fff6-8edb0171e153@denninger.net> From: Kurt Hackenberg Message-ID: <5c2c0fe0-93fa-246e-a3ae-05e813e246df@panix.com> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:04:29 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47NdDK3zz3z3H8X X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kh@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kh@panix.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.68 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:166.84.0.0/16]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[panix.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[89.1.84.166.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; IP_SCORE(-3.18)[ip: (-9.20), ipnet: 166.84.0.0/16(-3.70), asn: 2033(-2.96), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2033, ipnet:166.84.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 00:04:35 -0000 On 2019-11-27 13:33, vm finance wrote: > I had to comment out this exact line to get my system to boot successfully. > I actually have "Pro-level NVIDIA® Quadro® P500 graphics" on my P52S > Thinkpad. > Not sure if 12.1 has native support for this, or do I need to > download/build this. > > Per the discussions on this topic, I think I should stay away from pkg > ..drm-kmod ... >> kld_list="/boot/modules/i915kms.ko" ... >>> However startx is still failing - same framebuffer error. All right, a few things are going on. It's true that to use any drm-kmod on 12.1, you have to compile it, so it matches the kernel. (Those packages are compiled for 12.0, and something changed in the kernel.) The framebuffer thing might be this: both versions of the AMD drm-kmod (modules amdgpu and radeon) interfere with the EFI framebuffer. This bug has not yet been tracked down. You can work around it by shutting off the system console during boot, by adding this to /boot/loader.conf: hw.syscons.disable=1 There will be a system console after the drm-kmod driver is loaded and takes over. However, this is only a problem with UEFI boot; old-fashioned boot doesn't use that EFI framebuffer (I think it uses a VGA framebuffer instead). And it's never a problem with the Intel drm-kmod (i915kms), no matter how you boot. But neither of those drivers, Intel or AMD, applies to your Nvidia graphics processor. Nvidia writes drivers for their GPUs, but apparently does not give out source code, only binaries. I don't know whether FreeBSD distributes those binaries. But it's possible that your laptop computer has two graphics processors. Some do, apparently. That happens when the computer uses a main processor that has a graphics processor included in the package, and also has a separate graphics processor. I don't know why manufacturers do that. But maybe you can get by without any GPU driver, which means not using the graphics processor. Instead, graphics is done by software on the main processor, which is slower. That may or may not be fast enough. If your computer works, runs X and everything, without loading any graphics driver, maybe that's OK. Some documentation: https://freebsddesktop.github.io/ https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/kms-drm From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 02:18:05 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D831C066F for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 02:18:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-x142.google.com (mail-il1-x142.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::142]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NhBM5sYkz3Q2M for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 02:18:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-x142.google.com with SMTP id q1so22807470ile.13 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 18:18:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=t/EJ8f2VlZXn2AMpzIEvkCQZ9JctigsygKANKlYKxs8=; b=cc6NejMt9ahhs3EjrI1+G1hjmmjaORPNBTUfTAmCMd11xnIKot3HutnFbmLeUOus0k S+LfrWL/2N/PGZ5kjoRCcQUObVCgb4QU4IC2janFJ82v28sq57OtqwTMVADQRwwu/rlV cFAw5pQ7bID1U4zK+YJ4h+z7eQUAAc5sKkvHYOcynQTtxBJcr/tQs0VUyRGe6Fcckk3r ZCJLO2VJs9MSft+mH9x8c6R8mXjT2BH06d8UPBdTJM9jMC/28zIEVAZgEsdjuCjEjdlP TjkdowRcPyQs+/gqaGwaZJhhH7FDhe861ABIhaNBRxoEHc+EnxeEqG/YDKDhvJcmHiVL HL9Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=t/EJ8f2VlZXn2AMpzIEvkCQZ9JctigsygKANKlYKxs8=; b=cJUs3nxN5BcwHcoU/dLeZqLbuO51LAf4p2JDnEvtj+mMPmI3RCHYoCkq55wM9ZgxCY JgHlROGHNYprhyTBP8QnvzYumxBFdtJoq6P58DvHvgvWfFwFxzybX9VtKnhJETPXjDUQ M6doijq1w6M+Eo+SEC2ImbRDqOZTA8O8vSmvPEoNVVo5w0OWpG0DA9/XIgfPt0QE/fJR I/TuUx6Z4lzlfYDD7mG18VGXs1Q9lKoyttI4+08ZOiscnkF6NoobqM7hklbv4Wzd2zcD s1+3fDSFPAzzP50Zvvs27hYAb3vHYZACSMBP7pC/sNM1+sHEgoKwTOV5zTttC4sn/zTX rn5g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVZurrgndS4VUgpFkFTpSyNaSfFdw3xWMPbPCFTZTB2Oe6p4hOC hjIOLD5sYfQAGRoVVcrORKq2abcuo1nJmvGfqIc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxm080yaM/tcRtkohU+cZ41Cz7VpwOg+ZTvKFbwOQxxpQOCxMduVzXcadzb29x/CUnf3i5lYBKBPwX3VruFyiw= X-Received: by 2002:a92:6f05:: with SMTP id k5mr46181632ilc.98.1574907482125; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 18:18:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <18414268-96b1-6112-2c91-345aea9e7f24@gmail.com> <20191127160215.GA69810@neutralgood.org> <20191127160441.GB69810@neutralgood.org> <30022fe5-800e-0a9a-fff6-8edb0171e153@denninger.net> <5c2c0fe0-93fa-246e-a3ae-05e813e246df@panix.com> In-Reply-To: <5c2c0fe0-93fa-246e-a3ae-05e813e246df@panix.com> From: vm finance Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 07:47:52 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: Kurt Hackenberg Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47NhBM5sYkz3Q2M X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=cc6NejMt; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vmfinance2@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::142 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vmfinance2@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.4.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (1.88), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.26), asn: 15169(-1.95), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 02:18:05 -0000 I tried to add hw.syscons.disable=3D1 to /boot/loader.conf but it stalls the system during bootup.... On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 5:34 AM Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On 2019-11-27 13:33, vm finance wrote: > > > I had to comment out this exact line to get my system to boot > successfully. > > I actually have "Pro-level NVIDIA=C2=AE Quadro=C2=AE P500 graphics" on = my P52S > > Thinkpad. > > Not sure if 12.1 has native support for this, or do I need to > > download/build this. > > > > Per the discussions on this topic, I think I should stay away from pkg > > ..drm-kmod > ... > >> kld_list=3D"/boot/modules/i915kms.ko" > ... > >>> However startx is still failing - same framebuffer error. > > All right, a few things are going on. > > It's true that to use any drm-kmod on 12.1, you have to compile it, so > it matches the kernel. (Those packages are compiled for 12.0, and > something changed in the kernel.) > > The framebuffer thing might be this: both versions of the AMD drm-kmod > (modules amdgpu and radeon) interfere with the EFI framebuffer. This bug > has not yet been tracked down. You can work around it by shutting off > the system console during boot, by adding this to /boot/loader.conf: > hw.syscons.disable=3D1 > There will be a system console after the drm-kmod driver is loaded and > takes over. However, this is only a problem with UEFI boot; > old-fashioned boot doesn't use that EFI framebuffer (I think it uses a > VGA framebuffer instead). And it's never a problem with the Intel > drm-kmod (i915kms), no matter how you boot. > > But neither of those drivers, Intel or AMD, applies to your Nvidia > graphics processor. Nvidia writes drivers for their GPUs, but apparently > does not give out source code, only binaries. I don't know whether > FreeBSD distributes those binaries. > > But it's possible that your laptop computer has two graphics processors. > Some do, apparently. That happens when the computer uses a main > processor that has a graphics processor included in the package, and > also has a separate graphics processor. I don't know why manufacturers > do that. > > But maybe you can get by without any GPU driver, which means not using > the graphics processor. Instead, graphics is done by software on the > main processor, which is slower. That may or may not be fast enough. If > your computer works, runs X and everything, without loading any graphics > driver, maybe that's OK. > > Some documentation: > https://freebsddesktop.github.io/ > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics > https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/kms-drm > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 02:20:28 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42301C09DE for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 02:20:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd43.google.com (mail-io1-xd43.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d43]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NhF76b1pz3QWC for ; 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Wed, 27 Nov 2019 18:20:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <18414268-96b1-6112-2c91-345aea9e7f24@gmail.com> <20191127160215.GA69810@neutralgood.org> <20191127160441.GB69810@neutralgood.org> <30022fe5-800e-0a9a-fff6-8edb0171e153@denninger.net> <5c2c0fe0-93fa-246e-a3ae-05e813e246df@panix.com> In-Reply-To: From: vm finance Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 07:50:17 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: Kurt Hackenberg Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47NhF76b1pz3QWC X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=hsIqPU0j; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vmfinance2@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d43 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vmfinance2@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; 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Is there a way to undo the change from loader prompt? Thanks On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 7:47 AM vm finance wrote: > I tried to add > hw.syscons.disable=3D1 > to /boot/loader.conf but it stalls the system during bootup.... > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 5:34 AM Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > >> On 2019-11-27 13:33, vm finance wrote: >> >> > I had to comment out this exact line to get my system to boot >> successfully. >> > I actually have "Pro-level NVIDIA=C2=AE Quadro=C2=AE P500 graphics" on= my P52S >> > Thinkpad. >> > Not sure if 12.1 has native support for this, or do I need to >> > download/build this. >> > >> > Per the discussions on this topic, I think I should stay away from pkg >> > ..drm-kmod >> ... >> >> kld_list=3D"/boot/modules/i915kms.ko" >> ... >> >>> However startx is still failing - same framebuffer error. >> >> All right, a few things are going on. >> >> It's true that to use any drm-kmod on 12.1, you have to compile it, so >> it matches the kernel. (Those packages are compiled for 12.0, and >> something changed in the kernel.) >> >> The framebuffer thing might be this: both versions of the AMD drm-kmod >> (modules amdgpu and radeon) interfere with the EFI framebuffer. This bug >> has not yet been tracked down. You can work around it by shutting off >> the system console during boot, by adding this to /boot/loader.conf: >> hw.syscons.disable=3D1 >> There will be a system console after the drm-kmod driver is loaded and >> takes over. However, this is only a problem with UEFI boot; >> old-fashioned boot doesn't use that EFI framebuffer (I think it uses a >> VGA framebuffer instead). And it's never a problem with the Intel >> drm-kmod (i915kms), no matter how you boot. >> >> But neither of those drivers, Intel or AMD, applies to your Nvidia >> graphics processor. Nvidia writes drivers for their GPUs, but apparently >> does not give out source code, only binaries. I don't know whether >> FreeBSD distributes those binaries. >> >> But it's possible that your laptop computer has two graphics processors. >> Some do, apparently. That happens when the computer uses a main >> processor that has a graphics processor included in the package, and >> also has a separate graphics processor. I don't know why manufacturers >> do that. >> >> But maybe you can get by without any GPU driver, which means not using >> the graphics processor. Instead, graphics is done by software on the >> main processor, which is slower. That may or may not be fast enough. If >> your computer works, runs X and everything, without loading any graphics >> driver, maybe that's OK. >> >> Some documentation: >> https://freebsddesktop.github.io/ >> https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics >> https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/kms-drm >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 02:38:18 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D6E1C1346 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 02:38:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Nhdk386Vz3wnL for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 02:38:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from rain.home (pool-72-74-69-77.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [72.74.69.77]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47Nhdj2nKJz1xWD for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 21:38:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <18414268-96b1-6112-2c91-345aea9e7f24@gmail.com> <20191127160215.GA69810@neutralgood.org> <20191127160441.GB69810@neutralgood.org> <30022fe5-800e-0a9a-fff6-8edb0171e153@denninger.net> <5c2c0fe0-93fa-246e-a3ae-05e813e246df@panix.com> From: Kurt Hackenberg Message-ID: <91e79660-9a26-25a7-912e-4968c3cd813e@panix.com> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 21:38:14 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Nhdk386Vz3wnL X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kh@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kh@panix.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.72 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:166.84.0.0/16:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[panix.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[89.1.84.166.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; IP_SCORE(-3.22)[ip: (-9.26), ipnet: 166.84.0.0/16(-3.78), asn: 2033(-3.02), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2033, ipnet:166.84.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 02:38:19 -0000 On 2019-11-27 21:20, vm finance wrote: > I can't even get to any prompt, except loader prompt. > Is there a way to undo the change from loader prompt? Nope. One way might be to boot from the installer memory stick, select "shell" or "live CD" instead of the installer, get to a shell, mount the filesystem from the disk, and edit files there. Does the system run without loading any graphics driver? (That is, without kld_list= whatever in /etc/rc.conf?) If so, or if you don't know, then I suggest that you make /etc/rc.conf not have any kld_list= and make /boot/loader.conf not disable the console. Then see if it will boot. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 03:19:38 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA4D1C2348 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 03:19:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd2b.google.com (mail-io1-xd2b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NjYQ2Z2rz3ypP; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 03:19:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd2b.google.com with SMTP id c16so1863745ioh.6; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:19:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=rHHcPhBbQhJN/bPsakAEBaaNwVTy+pJ5x4M0ZV4kheA=; b=TunMALsR2EcsXVMceQfYtVhBec2FQFBhqUkcGckzFMJ85Y/9CpO07fs9cce3xeOBY1 opvllZHR5+3zaie1RDST/DrApNFs35pQEmDsD/sc03aKY65KVbVJHtsTREwPdBiP4Opz 6FnioJzxhzu4eWRbj8cSZtUbGxNkd6o1v/yICj6Z1TgFvVBftv/hkIEsk66OM/FHibFA tuoctupkMk/sAfMDV1afRp795gunes5qhtrMl7hb/Wd79cByfE/Cyrjq9/S6p86tXCOg hkFxGOcmcluapmH22+q9XsPxDMrCYKCL5iyvrbzXqbLV1PUwvI7wcyq3QlrDtqg/ZIeT OCag== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=rHHcPhBbQhJN/bPsakAEBaaNwVTy+pJ5x4M0ZV4kheA=; b=I/pJrEQG9pk7DxexQyHAZASFVhi5LtGHdbND7IINhGYioQhBF7mF0JGJaWjzAGAWBP DwDVj1aFNr8eeZTS4Z//TableZlpST3GKep3lppmyInx3l0joIKfe458pcVMeUDiFUoA hRO/FnEadJhC1+fWCwCEraLZkfcgg0ivT//fBKXf84ypIw3yXQtwZlOCu/KS1gLnTWxP QvNw+TCK/6rp5YBZdgYilGsDAZrh7aLqB2/C/By4QcT2tenhujna4ckSq2RyIxB86pkG IkeQlU0/SUcK55IhZkvbph6q04aiJ3hmvtfN1OEDEjQ886gKqzdkPAgcgow+K6ix2ULB Btkg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXHNave8j4se2CLxs05cp+6HakEuhrAorfMgyCAoc0/v0+sKVEB sv5v9NOeDnFaje3bvg1oiPSzEkEdVqUvYfVFT/Gymg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxyE6iMJWzvYvjXK68ugbwoRACCycA4y/76AHfciavMsYTZTi+VI3X9xxbAKnSKv5X+10DsVl8jIsEtAxstXWg= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6638:d7:: with SMTP id w23mr7654203jao.88.1574911176731; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:19:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <18414268-96b1-6112-2c91-345aea9e7f24@gmail.com> <20191127160215.GA69810@neutralgood.org> <20191127160441.GB69810@neutralgood.org> <30022fe5-800e-0a9a-fff6-8edb0171e153@denninger.net> <5c2c0fe0-93fa-246e-a3ae-05e813e246df@panix.com> In-Reply-To: From: vm finance Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 08:49:27 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: Kyle Evans Cc: Kurt Hackenberg , FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47NjYQ2Z2rz3ypP X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 03:19:38 -0000 Thanks Kyle. That worked! On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 8:12 AM Kyle Evans wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 8:20 PM vm finance wrote: > > > > I can't even get to any prompt, except loader prompt. > > Is there a way to undo the change from loader prompt? > > > > For that particular decision, drop to loader prompt and speak to it: > > set hw.syscons.disable=0 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 04:52:33 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD6E1C46DD for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 04:52:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "holgerdanske.com", Issuer "holgerdanske.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Nlcc22YNz440Z for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 04:52:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from 99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:TLSv1.2:Kx=ECDH:Au=RSA:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 20:52:20 -0800 Subject: Re: 'ezjail-admin create ...' and "Warning: Some services already seem to be listening on IP ..." 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Skuhra wrote: > On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 05:33:34 +0100, David Christensen wrote: >> >> freebsd-questions: >> >> I have a newly installed FreeBSD host: >> >> 2019-11-23 19:53:00 toor@soho2 ~ >> # freebsd-version ; uname -a >> 11.3-RELEASE-p5 >> FreeBSD soho2.tracy.holgerdanske.com 11.3-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD >> 11.3-RELEASE-p5 #0: Tue Nov 12 08:59:04 UTC 2019 >> root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >> >> >> I would like to run some jailed services using ezjail(7). I have >> installed and configured ezjail, installed a base jail, created a >> flavour "cvs", and added the desired IP alias to my host. When I >> create the jail: >> >> 2019-11-23 20:23:14 toor@soho2 ~ >> # ezjail-admin create -f cvs cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com 192.168.5.19 >> /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/. >> /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./etc >> /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./etc/rc.d >> /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./etc/rc.d/ezjail.flavour.cvs >> /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./etc/rc.d/ezjail.flavour.cvs.packages >> /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/./etc/rc.conf >> 5 blocks >> find: /usr/jails/cvs.tracy.holgerdanske.com/pkg/: No such file or directory >> Warning: Some services already seem to be listening on IP 192.168.5.19 >> This may cause some confusion, here they are: >> root ntpd 735 27 udp4 192.168.5.19:123 *:* >> Warning: Some services already seem to be listening on all IP, >> (including 192.168.5.19) >> This may cause some confusion, here they are: >> root ntpd 735 20 udp6 *:123 *:* >> root ntpd 735 21 udp4 *:123 *:* >> root syslogd 583 6 udp6 *:514 *:* >> root syslogd 583 7 udp4 *:514 *:* >> >> >> Do I need to worry about the listening services warnings? If so, what >> is the best way to resolve them? > > You should read "Setting up the Host Environment" from jail(8). Thanks for the reply. :-) There are many sources of information on jails and ezjail -- RTFM, STFW, MWL AF3E, etc.. Sorting through them to find a working solution is going to take me a while. > But are you trying to run ntpd on both the host and the jail? Why? I suspect the problem has to do with host services listening on all interfaces. I am working to limit the host services only to listen on the host's primary IP address or loopback interface, among other host setup steps. 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However, same issue w/ startx.....Framebuffer. BTW, since this is a Pls let me know how to proceed further. Thank you! On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 9:06 AM vm finance wrote: > After I followed steps to remove all drm* packages, and built > make -C /usr/ports/graphics/drm-kmod install > That seems to have worked. > > However, same issue w/ startx..... > > Pls let me know how to proceed further. > > Thank you! > > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 8:49 AM vm finance wrote: > >> Thanks Kyle. That worked! >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 8:12 AM Kyle Evans wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 8:20 PM vm finance >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > I can't even get to any prompt, except loader prompt. >>> > Is there a way to undo the change from loader prompt? >>> > >>> >>> For that particular decision, drop to loader prompt and speak to it: >>> >>> set hw.syscons.disable=0 >>> >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 07:03:47 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA65D1C7151 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 07:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clay.daniels.jr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lj1-x22f.google.com (mail-lj1-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NpX31Cvrz49yb for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 07:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clay.daniels.jr@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lj1-x22f.google.com with SMTP id c19so226904lji.11 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 23:03:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=sGRz37Tc9UApqmJo2AZXDmgvb32tmMf7plPM4by2gEQ=; b=GbeYNoIYsdjvx0pBIcgIp77m62v+mBEMsK+KBJOAgzVjG85ZTDpJYS9w2dgSv/a6us WEhABS0zRVFCDgqwGb1H3lU3DViY9Z85EiTMVaYU82VtSNGYUL1/hnpN/F2cI3c4QSvj rcQhNDiEVhVASrJbrfFiqMtr6UvVMKetRjRogIPd9YEB/zWM0fYcj81E0ND0sNd4IEiY BL0rT5b8USsqA/qhMf8c3wknVCh3/WuhW3dLJPp9QCO+nFfFuYZm/9rXQDArzkQF9Dfu WacVZAPu1kTZTNW+jiD2t+Hb/HnMGfmeoagpksNykCp3JZ3rzDvYehuFf9mTgM9O/3mp 5Law== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=sGRz37Tc9UApqmJo2AZXDmgvb32tmMf7plPM4by2gEQ=; b=cVIEeHv9MyxyL67cMk1Y8jbF4u8FimSMejUDJmb+BMxT9HwdUn0yJOLpHY0P7dLOgy oCcUgpfDAQWa6PCOOHShhzWR2jLuAGbl21ZBCbOyX078QJnvy7FkO+lQje1BphI+/4Yr VllO8/Ezkxiz4SHbU4oKg4EnERoccehG+EfOxbIMOUnDyD1zl6iGrNA2sIapnRjCyTLI wMAOy4AzFFUnsdCFCjgbQMHz6uXzMYZT4Jtqs903he726yI/mPtvIvDHne+0x0TRFU+4 ZEit5zx7zyi685IC2+eFHZocqRT9Hsnb3dsPCSzSCFwZhD/hNrWXgN6BX4+i06egAnAq B7CQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUlOtdSWiqibJbilwf2DzLmUY0YaW/Kkd0Tz50zXilBy+lwqshO 5jKVByXmoWerkopsV7sFz4Dqz9tD0JpCIEB9NT5CVfU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzeGRZe0hClxXbaR5aqdUPHKZFmaay1RDPh3d8tRRgAv6UF7T4wmvTbRTbJCzluRReiIiP5mj1ujb9WUaU3c70= X-Received: by 2002:a05:651c:152:: with SMTP id c18mr4269820ljd.146.1574924624343; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 23:03:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Clay Daniels Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 01:03:33 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47NpX31Cvrz49yb X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=GbeYNoIY; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of claydanielsjr@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=claydanielsjr@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.20), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.69), asn: 15169(-1.95), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FAKE_REPLY(1.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[f.2.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 07:03:47 -0000 For an Intel machine, after loading drm-kmod, put this line in /etc/rc.conf: kld_list="i915kms" I personally think the /boot/loader.conf line is not necessary for Intel, only AMD. Clay From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 07:03:47 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2BF91C714F for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 07:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd30.google.com (mail-io1-xd30.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d30]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NpX258QQz49yZ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 07:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd30.google.com with SMTP id z193so27821675iof.1; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 23:03:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Fr+yz52hb1fQF+jgS54jbYrCgBeRQt0H335nVUpbLhc=; b=I/50wepRNfnAxjSMlnUgDsHcqnj0Mo0TEL2Mk2qPqWvMw5bejfBO3JIViFmT2HxsqZ kEHdT7DU/iTMe11u7Ba49S3/X4vZ+VGa8Yyh4xHm/esCsdTSJmm3vdxUTFZ6wlX/jS7t PqTiRNNS7LH4DqFBcJlYVwFVmdZJK2uZhcgjHPriWzUFyF3tDfU6HyfDuNpmE36TTzKe k+EkWoUWrVQQbJ0ELm+RYURiPC/GvlNbKfAuCHJW8FAfmBXVsk5HcT0H3zPMfT6bicXq 2oWx/E3GRQvu2H7vP4LlDCoTXEZKBIOQMJUVkjALV3kcyZxaGr09zPBt7yasPYhhNZRk xWZQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Fr+yz52hb1fQF+jgS54jbYrCgBeRQt0H335nVUpbLhc=; b=aSAaAvds0csXRmVINQW8L7fknm8UQZwD6QkxL+eYdAfo3RCpsFDOODD4rncP77JV98 mQkZ81vTtkH5+JPjzj+34CUYoENgH6DM8r8Zqu9Yr2H/cW0FVEulWiYQTyjwoCciFe0/ SGoRHTVhnzkPlJXJZsfU9L3mPXFztFgwOG7hem4q7Io7yXD1NWdaHM+X/MYSvpugK1tw h+R12+CwXGc0s9YXoHaHwYfG5ekeUvZx4lAoERhfBoqTTRY5ejGsIe/SMbc8p5YGr/w+ I8BE6dCetCVF8wAP6/vq4kn/bemnFjU0CZNkRT8EsYuaprmwR9XuuujXlaCeR7QOCArz aoKw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXBMUT+SEZcAFAPqWRqyYC6w/x04rHycHAxhaSsLQOMBoQR23JO Cd0kfzm4WX4DwEuoySy83oQ9ohb0CHtZDbrcfstEcA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzVULEdlr8V1FzWDyJirZBHd+0hzH0h+QhSzC0GFDTiCBgjjgW6YziqtgYWdsn+0DlRyQhMrSYLfc1GeI8GQ50= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:9585:: with SMTP id a5mr27123489ioo.27.1574924625170; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 23:03:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <18414268-96b1-6112-2c91-345aea9e7f24@gmail.com> <20191127160215.GA69810@neutralgood.org> <20191127160441.GB69810@neutralgood.org> <30022fe5-800e-0a9a-fff6-8edb0171e153@denninger.net> <5c2c0fe0-93fa-246e-a3ae-05e813e246df@panix.com> In-Reply-To: From: vm finance Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 12:33:33 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: Kyle Evans Cc: Kurt Hackenberg , FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47NpX258QQz49yZ X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=I/50wepR; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vmfinance2@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d30 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vmfinance2@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[0.3.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-6.01), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.26), asn: 15169(-1.95), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 07:03:47 -0000 I also downloaded NVIDIA FreeBSD driver for my laptop and built/make install its driver. When I try to do startx now, its no longer showing Framebuffer error...however it fails with error: (EE) No Screens found (EE) Looks like one step closer...any thoughts on how to fix this? Thanks! On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 11:56 AM vm finance wrote: > Hi guys, > > I followed steps to remove all drm* packages, and built it natively: > > =========================================================== > #make -C /usr/ports/graphics/drm-kmod install > ===> Installing for drm-kmod-g20190710 > ===> Checking if drm-kmod-g20190710 is already installed > actual-package-depends: dependency on /boot/modules/drm.ko not registered ( > > ===> REgistering installation for drm-kmod-g20190710 > ============================================================= > > That seems to have worked... > > However, same issue w/ startx.....Framebuffer. > > BTW, since this is a > > Pls let me know how to proceed further. > > Thank you! > > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 9:06 AM vm finance wrote: > >> After I followed steps to remove all drm* packages, and built >> make -C /usr/ports/graphics/drm-kmod install >> That seems to have worked. >> >> However, same issue w/ startx..... >> >> Pls let me know how to proceed further. >> >> Thank you! >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 8:49 AM vm finance wrote: >> >>> Thanks Kyle. That worked! >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 8:12 AM Kyle Evans wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 8:20 PM vm finance >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > I can't even get to any prompt, except loader prompt. >>>> > Is there a way to undo the change from loader prompt? >>>> > >>>> >>>> For that particular decision, drop to loader prompt and speak to it: >>>> >>>> set hw.syscons.disable=0 >>>> >>> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 07:30:32 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795591C7CCE for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 07:30:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Nq6v3rTJz4CF4 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 07:30:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1574926232; x=1577518232; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=+WfMQOBHjB/XeAOS9MPcHZmxVRNDI92lwdebqV9ajCo=; b=SfYZ4DfDQDO0dsSd5SmVVmunid0ccnTrgZQfl3OlwTpZla3QKX9ttm2UCtusragNM4inUNJWL63l85NEl1ksn1Y8ZZsguhFbjJEz/tql1NrP9L77UUKloxhdy853B2epwye83Xz4JfjJCncsUKilR2hmuTvFrzjSk6FpL7NdQLc= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xYzkwMDAwMDFhNTg0OTAuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com (r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.179.12]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 28 Nov 2019 02:30:25 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 28 Nov 2019 02:30:24 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1iaEFr-000CUh-3A; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 07:30:23 +0000 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 07:30:22 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: vm finance Cc: Theron , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop Message-Id: <20191128073022.dc5ad3caa038db91ae3a1a41@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <18414268-96b1-6112-2c91-345aea9e7f24@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Nq6v3rTJz4CF4 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=SfYZ4DfD; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.24 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.96)[-0.955,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.95)[-0.950,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.17)[ip: (-0.39), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(0.73), asn: 7381(0.55), country: US(-0.05)]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com]; SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS(1.50)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 07:30:32 -0000 On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:50:59 +0530 vm finance wrote: > Hi Theron, > > I tried to do: > pkg install drm-kmod Uninstall the package, build the port and install it and then pkg lock the resulting package. The package has issues with 12.1. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 08:51:14 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00251C9900 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 08:51:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Lena@lena.kiev.ua) Received: from lena.kiev.ua (lena.kiev.ua [62.109.6.225]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Nrw02055z4H1D for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 08:51:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Lena@lena.kiev.ua) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lena.kiev.ua; s=3; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:Message-ID:Subject:To:From: Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=RQGE5nhT4m2kAQKifqy0gWUPsJK5v7XxVfZMilq507s=; b=jSMNaX17MWZmb89WuRd2GcwDye bY4fqWSRYpVRFJEp2g26hBO34kLMzIXSNcF7CN8hul2sHXQTbddnJ/dNTs3zmLUbCqxUbAMvThGQ1 XVs084EE2QdQHO+xHAIYJ/p5IX1fR7Nu6DTdiPu7dXfmQ6Iq54bzFnX/HVPqmhx5WiVA=; Received: from ip-1926.rusanovka-net.kiev.ua ([94.244.25.38] helo=bedside.lena.kiev.ua) by lena.kiev.ua with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1iaFW4-000P4R-Bs for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:51:12 +0200 Received: from bedside.lena.kiev.ua (localhost.lena.kiev.ua [127.0.0.1]) by bedside.lena.kiev.ua (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id xAS8p8DJ002584 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:51:08 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from Lena@lena.kiev.ua) Received: (from lena@localhost) by bedside.lena.kiev.ua (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id xAS8p8UP002583 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:51:08 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from Lena@lena.kiev.ua) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:51:08 +0200 From: Lena@lena.kiev.ua To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd-update 11.3->12.1 ? Message-ID: <20191128085108.GB791@lena.kiev> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Nrw02055z4H1D X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=lena.kiev.ua header.s=3 header.b=jSMNaX17; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=lena.kiev.ua; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of Lena@lena.kiev.ua designates 62.109.6.225 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=Lena@lena.kiev.ua X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.80 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[lena.kiev.ua:s=3]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; IP_SCORE(0.39)[asn: 29182(1.96), country: RU(0.01)]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[lena.kiev.ua.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.6.2]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[225.6.109.62.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.6.2]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[lena.kiev.ua:+]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[lena.kiev.ua,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29182, ipnet:62.109.0.0/21, country:RU]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 08:51:15 -0000 Can `freebsd-update` be used to upgrade from 11.3 to 12.1 in one step (skipping 12.0)? If something breaks (I'm afraid of https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=235077 ), should `freebsd-update rollback` be successful? I use GENERIC kernel. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 09:38:22 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C401CAA56 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 09:38:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NsyP2fKDz4KBd; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 09:38:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.235.226]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MbjBo-1hx59G38Mo-00dHNY; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:38:12 +0100 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:38:10 +0100 From: Polytropon To: vm finance Cc: Kyle Evans , FreeBSD Mailing List , Kurt Hackenberg Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop Message-Id: <20191128103810.9599da0b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <30022fe5-800e-0a9a-fff6-8edb0171e153@denninger.net> <5c2c0fe0-93fa-246e-a3ae-05e813e246df@panix.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:xVE21YvJDI5zrG5ILy1xWA+JW63q/S05hWYjYif9YnwATYIgexp VwKRaraTP+Kw4wiwDJj/Qn9bvpsbeTuKLQVEFJdb2vukgbognB5Psgn7sn87+Jy7sxP0v0k YW18rH4fI1KegZ0S8w0vWAajCsbwgRV4Zc4YE7x4fgn0Hcva7GGlsjSEZt1EePZFDzd8yor w4AQ4lVIaCCuEWABouaSw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Wi+mL5oTyig=:dIIQTghX1EgTea1TO/yWNc 4+hyw/LeLYPszxTrNoP/mFyhpcOxyUz8B68ocylhXsNZVUMO4fv0mar2uYn7k5uYp5PNMP5fn Ewxv6X9eWvRnnqwIhrwHSZLpa2dvA90sFYAp2vim508bYZgH8d5r2uxAmSF9z8haYYReeHECi kdf0ibKZjLBgSQ6HK+KqrK+qLi6yOlnFVWcXThCpQnX4zpcKo5YPhWsUBtb8kAw3GcOuT9MGw mJbtQ3m55mZqEcLryXtI3nRTXG0sKDtROwGjaDg3wt3gcElaa/Ar3cHmyKXnJDqTkjGqOh4/j 1sC18P2vMrFPzTIF7xZlYLG51kv/OoD8FLel9f0M3LD6txtvYhiUxwF8dhD8GamvTYqDJ9jKI Guk58V+nMgYKClU8pzBn9BPR2aZ+EBJ/3oP3cfs7XkXlfwSB1WVAvEHznULl9GRqfHzSfmceR JOSGRbOF16j9/TMF7KTfMh7yYaG4MgI9UZfISOK+0FLOg8hDYR2Yc/fv68wQGdo4qwz9pLCgS COzUFDG5dlNTC2dTUjiqpXdWpH+EFZUqEVWmMw9ZhyeFcthdtW0aD2Hg3SbPCmKgxJTl6A6y9 q2pVJXVhpboXMlJr8oX+OVavIbD/okYq2WIU4XgkBgB3ilVa5lv5x8pMjH73lbM9DM6qxWqps XvcQza9HYqeG5tB+/3zOFyLLcXtk69BH+fp0+4u65xT7GoNWxnVv3VOn8gL9BcJaqDDKvcqlK CETBT/6Bo/LpMUTcQE0YR/C5v3GZKHo1PHLYYY69ouGs1hUQxEXz0B2msp1r5EBjx6l6ldeXE jNGP2PGKZYqN/CMEL94bruz/Kx4TykSfd6A5/i6Ok8GBqmQ1w6pqrNbEzw/HLGH/v3SN+oVcZ gxSWVYq5HhxJtSyQ1zgQ== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47NsyP2fKDz4KBd X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 217.72.192.73) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.94 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[226.235.5.178.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.994,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.996,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[73.192.72.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.55)[ip: (0.25), ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(0.25), asn: 8560(2.29), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 09:38:22 -0000 On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 12:33:33 +0530, vm finance wrote: > I also downloaded NVIDIA FreeBSD driver for my laptop and built/make > install its driver. > > When I try to do startx now, its no longer showing Framebuffer > error...however it fails with error: > (EE) No Screens found (EE) > > Looks like one step closer...any thoughts on how to fix this? Can you please check _which_ graphics card your laptop contains? Read through # pciconf -lv | less If it's a Thinkpad, it's probably Intel. Depending on model and age of the Thinkpad, as I said, it might be possible that you don't need the DRM stuff at all. Again, verify that you have the driver _for X_ installed, which for Intel GPUs is xf86-video-intel. This to make sure that X is not missing an essential component. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 10:03:26 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590871CBB56 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:03:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd29.google.com (mail-io1-xd29.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d29]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NtWK28yrz4MR2; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:03:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd29.google.com with SMTP id z26so24803086iot.8; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 02:03:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=QIeR3A5qCvc8aO6hbo6AMW/YJ9IV5uUYIeF+GYwwEKg=; b=XC8/fECQ+XiTUL9d4YJg/eCaOhyRRRrbRFrP8vXvBYDUFDG0WcYwIX3pPmP6EJU0rQ 8OCTSQ6jGu7PudpZAIPO8QaoAq90MvJ5piT2QS6J0EqG3zaySVzsgB7arKQCKPWXd/Ia qNXm4oQSe8DxoNE//eV0XBoOdXMAiUCz1Y4KCXnG3QvIXPFg0p2AccbeEe6OaNYORiEk 09RSEMACAUagNNc3Lh9CP3DV4yQb8o7xx2p2UpFqq6745Q+6qtNkG/GAaYkhzaHpUdUF hV7qloGIyGFMVHAGm8neC3izJbkWhXpH0t4OEU3y0Ddeq+TsyGMApEPoDwB2wMDzHIz0 XWZg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=QIeR3A5qCvc8aO6hbo6AMW/YJ9IV5uUYIeF+GYwwEKg=; b=fMrphoI9/MkjEW+ii0LG1ukguBA0UKgxwN5Abb1yH0bDvTdoXHegEjD4BADZjKMMri 7zNsOoiLgyrMI7I6PK+hhFsELX17PuKzp+8nbd7AAoIqc77L4RDWkEwWEVRv8zxnHN+8 l8u+fmstle2ERaTKn4IKhtkXZTEZ/lk4bIl14g/oGe5gTubtWlEswzp0Olw0F2+zK1/K EiXm6mRKB47csRoPiO9fNa0kKzxoJQPxjYxQ4b+BM7LEdTx2iuQlmBEZl6D4QBQabmfm ig6UtF/6gnnSBP27q+cFs9XT6V94qBjcmMl4qpRzWK2UFH7fv5TPw2BgJ2Vsr0xLnqUN ZFgw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX0gtt6lTp78Ci4l5Lq0dQ9mnZEp3iUVSu3n1F7JfKmwzi9Uqbu hEIdSrkD4yrm1gB7ynm+/u46s+FDeImg1AN6d42aXWG6 X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxxllAFEMR/VEQHXQ3aMtPMieetWHUhjYXDDLjYeyYn8oG1YHp7jJwuf8d9RjfrnMN/E6vXz+x/sOkzfJW5fA8= X-Received: by 2002:a02:40c6:: with SMTP id n189mr4481280jaa.18.1574935404005; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 02:03:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <30022fe5-800e-0a9a-fff6-8edb0171e153@denninger.net> <5c2c0fe0-93fa-246e-a3ae-05e813e246df@panix.com> <20191128103810.9599da0b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20191128103810.9599da0b.freebsd@edvax.de> From: vm finance Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 15:33:12 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: Polytropon Cc: Kyle Evans , FreeBSD Mailing List , Kurt Hackenberg X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47NtWK28yrz4MR2 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=XC8/fECQ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vmfinance2@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d29 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vmfinance2@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[9.2.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-5.39), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.26), asn: 15169(-1.95), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:03:26 -0000 Hi, Its Intel's "UHD Graphics 620". I don't see it installed/loaded under "kldstat". Do you think steps mentioned in http://www.srobb.net/freebsdintel.html would suffice to get around the issue I have? If not, could u please suggest next steps. Pls let me know. Thanks so much! On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 3:08 PM Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 12:33:33 +0530, vm finance wrote: > > I also downloaded NVIDIA FreeBSD driver for my laptop and built/make > > install its driver. > > > > When I try to do startx now, its no longer showing Framebuffer > > error...however it fails with error: > > (EE) No Screens found (EE) > > > > Looks like one step closer...any thoughts on how to fix this? > > Can you please check _which_ graphics card your laptop contains? > Read through > > # pciconf -lv | less > > If it's a Thinkpad, it's probably Intel. Depending on model and > age of the Thinkpad, as I said, it might be possible that you > don't need the DRM stuff at all. > > Again, verify that you have the driver _for X_ installed, which > for Intel GPUs is xf86-video-intel. This to make sure that X is > not missing an essential component. > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 10:59:01 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2207C1CD4AB for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:59:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NvlR6bZBz4QfZ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:58:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.235.226]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M3UhQ-1iZjXl4Bb0-000Z8z; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 11:58:52 +0100 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 11:58:46 +0100 From: Polytropon To: vm finance Cc: Kyle Evans , FreeBSD Mailing List , Kurt Hackenberg Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop Message-Id: <20191128115846.46fe7606.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <5c2c0fe0-93fa-246e-a3ae-05e813e246df@panix.com> <20191128103810.9599da0b.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:yuvV9e2/NlYv8ViVtQyEXIjtfvLBSTI4XP4yZoHYTWNKu7c0iQf rs0IJfPmsZ5N1LIwztcsKi1/hO/oDPTqqK+6585Mww9Re7aNUdK7coecdEoMnlCBmCKGBTw /It6bc9YhtlAbMHTIi1O/vHKlo8XOtLVZYkjBGCFYoxkFUK5xYrFkiXRykcaLCsgVbxovTy F/120i7K8wJoczGn3Jkug== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:rUI3vfoqxLk=:bnuzgl5m51ntZF2OsXiRh/ m/nKxXbTQRsugsdnM2jCYfkWSLk0HSLM1V57b2uHfdoPJk0O8iz7d0GrHbDMRu1UgNXWyxq3n wmR62PtCSo6lDB7nR3L2bJTcSgU55gduodUAQNtxR1ObWWYGLnw5oyrH13HnnzjdKQjzG6eYO uyeF+WfJNNh+xs7AL1PlRM7xU66gHgaLkOJ8KuFKH+a2uO3THV9bPIj8U79UL2xTRKPsQNUAD wR+xhrOfJ6RnKutiKH89vFGh8qZ7qTWIlLTdnbp9DWeOKguSBlhXGt3dZ/DvkhHFBcI4rUMvt Tl3/4Bv341eaUr954H7QkOFe1qZSgDcvWu7ZCZwYUZKHDw+kVLVZxvbmZKHpBD6B+XUnlTeEY 1f5gmA2vqOPFQ1cRib2wnB9EhjRk/zK6e+pC8Bf52pjQNQyKx8pq3pJpZhfOpW4J7E8IH3v8K 9sBSMW5U15Yl6CvCfF80oNacfE47cLGks6mCFbEHXUb3DB+KPwlHSut2hna/+t6vaOHI7mqtE xaMmCkQbL6np0H2oK22AT9ROV/P6DowMQ9K8r9gPFpEnBPc2cIUxMCHYpyiT+nx+CgITC37i1 7i823NyeZ7q0TZ8BBDq4yVl5K1p6fZv0GxU+NCaK9iZjfKlPbWjTdqLIar3bcdEYQYtZHf2k8 hHCUIf8uxOeBe6PTf9KYJILqSa1dlkuqmd75KGhPegvRMeqVpqhuPzQZQPjEnI7DQgpbdnQ3j cyQgYmm55zBwSWjp/kLNR5JKOAh9PgWe+SpSuol9SkyBmstT+fHkp04t0U9BAqC1f2Etnc2hm QLE2G1+plQIZnQVZHx9n+TCEmKQxgoLVHSnMA3uLZBTU+jnOEvfEZ/DyKvr6uwMl1Eijv0deD rxzC69EoalLjle/Vl80w== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47NvlR6bZBz4QfZ X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 217.72.192.73) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.95 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[226.235.5.178.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.997,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.999,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[73.192.72.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.55)[ip: (0.24), ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(0.25), asn: 8560(2.29), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:59:01 -0000 On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 15:33:12 +0530, vm finance wrote: > Hi, > > Its Intel's "UHD Graphics 620". I don't see it installed/loaded under > "kldstat". It's not a kernel module, it's a driver package for X what I've been suggesting to look for. This package needs to be installed via pkg, but X will load it automatically if present. My assumption: X doesn't find an appropriate driver for your Intel graphics and tries to address the UEFI framebuffer device, but that doesn't work, so it exits. Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for the last messages, especially those marked with "EE" as errors. > Do you think steps mentioned in > http://www.srobb.net/freebsdintel.html > > would suffice to get around the issue I have? This seems to be quite recent, I suggest you try that. Note that it also uses a different xf68-video-* driver probably because it's related to newer hardware. I have a Lenovo Thinkpad R61i here with older Intel graphics (no "U", no "HD", if I remember correctly, on FreeBSD 12.0-p7), so it's quite possible that I'm not up to date. :-) > If not, could u please suggest next steps. The page you've been refering to matches my (working) setup so far, except two significant things: 1. I don't have the DRM kernel module loaded, only the the setting 'i915kms_load="YES"' in /boot/loader.conf, which doesn't seem to require DRM so far. I did not install something to get this part working. 2. I have installed xf86-video-intel via pkg. I also don't have the 'kern.vt.fb.default_mode="800x600"' because anything related to to vt is annoying and doesn't work. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 11:31:50 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8921CE012; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 11:31:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Received: from mailout.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [64.68.202.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NwTK2YzMz4S5r; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 11:31:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31419C5BCF; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 11:31:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout.easydns.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (emo12-pco.easydns.vpn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fuPRq_zAycPk; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 11:31:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hedeland.org (81-228-157-209-no289.tbcn.telia.com [81.228.157.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E6AF5C246F; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 11:31:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pluto.hedeland.org (pluto.hedeland.org [10.1.1.5]) by tellus.hedeland.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id xASBVfSe026662 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 28 Nov 2019 12:31:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: vm finance Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Mailing List , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org References: <30022fe5-800e-0a9a-fff6-8edb0171e153@denninger.net> <5c2c0fe0-93fa-246e-a3ae-05e813e246df@panix.com> <20191128103810.9599da0b.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Per Hedeland Message-ID: <770ebb05-9d76-1b54-5bf5-af548368e19e@hedeland.org> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 12:31:41 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47NwTK2YzMz4S5r X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of per@hedeland.org has no SPF policy when checking 64.68.202.10) smtp.mailfrom=per@hedeland.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.69 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[209.157.228.81.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hedeland.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.92)[0.921,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.51)[ip: (0.75), ipnet: 64.68.200.0/22(0.13), asn: 16686(1.73), country: CA(-0.09)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.96)[0.963,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[10.202.68.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16686, ipnet:64.68.200.0/22, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS(1.50)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 11:31:50 -0000 On 2019-11-28 11:03, vm finance wrote: > Hi, > > Its Intel's "UHD Graphics 620". I don't see it installed/loaded under > "kldstat". > > Do you think steps mentioned in > http://www.srobb.net/freebsdintel.html > > would suffice to get around the issue I have? > If not, could u please suggest next steps. > > Pls let me know. Thanks so much! Sigh, after all the discussion and problem / fix reports (mostly on the freebsd-x11@ list, which I'm adding to Cc) about the "new DRM" stuff, one would think that there should be some simple-to-follow *FreeBSD* web page that explained it all and could be pointed to if not immediately found. There is https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics, which IMHO is neither simple to find nor to follow, and which still has the broken-with-12.1 "pkg install drm-kmod" advice. I think it is sad, since there's a lot of great work that has gone into this - personally I have a laptop that wouldn't have had *any* graphics (on FreeBSD) without it, and I know I'm not alone in that. Anyway, enough ranting - if you look at the "Intel Integrated Graphics (aka HD Graphics)" section on the above page, and specifically the "Example Configuration For Post Broadwell System", and *skip* the bad pkg advice, you'll find that the next step is to add kld_list="/boot/modules/i915kms.ko" to rc.conf - and actually the "post-install package message" will have told you so, but yeah, who reads those things... The problem (not explained anywhere that I can find right now) is that after building and installing the drm-kmod port (or package), you have *two* drivers called i915kms installed. One is part of the base system, /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko - this is the one that doesn't work for you (or me), and gets loaded if you do "kldload i915kms". The other is from the port that you installed, and it's the above /boot/modules/i915kms.ko - you must ensure that this is the one that is loaded. The above line makes sure that this happens at reboot (loading via boot/loader.conf has been reported to *not* work in at least *some* cases, and there's no advantage over loading via /etc/rc.conf), but you can also do it manually for testing, by using the full path with "kldload": kldload /boot/modules/i915kms.ko Read and follow also the subsequent steps in the example, as well as the "Note:" at the end of the section. If your card is actually supported (and frankly I'm not sure how to figure that out in any other way than trying it), you should be fine at that point. --Per Hedeland From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 11:32:24 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25CF1CE12E for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 11:32:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca) Received: from doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (doctor.nl2k.ab.ca [204.209.81.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NwTz4NHRz4SFV for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 11:32:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca) Received: from doctor by doctor.nl2k.ab.ca with local (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1iaI2F-0001bh-Ep; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 04:32:35 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 04:32:35 -0700 From: The Doctor To: Lena@lena.kiev.ua Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update 11.3->12.1 ? 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How do I get i915kms.ko? Thanks! On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 5:01 PM Per Hedeland wrote: > On 2019-11-28 11:03, vm finance wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Its Intel's "UHD Graphics 620". I don't see it installed/loaded under > > "kldstat". > > > > Do you think steps mentioned in > > http://www.srobb.net/freebsdintel.html > > > > would suffice to get around the issue I have? > > If not, could u please suggest next steps. > > > > Pls let me know. Thanks so much! > > Sigh, after all the discussion and problem / fix reports (mostly on > the freebsd-x11@ list, which I'm adding to Cc) about the "new DRM" > stuff, one would think that there should be some simple-to-follow > *FreeBSD* web page that explained it all and could be pointed to if > not immediately found. > > There is https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics, which IMHO is neither > simple to find nor to follow, and which still has the broken-with-12.1 > "pkg install drm-kmod" advice. I think it is sad, since there's a lot > of great work that has gone into this - personally I have a laptop > that wouldn't have had *any* graphics (on FreeBSD) without it, and I > know I'm not alone in that. > > Anyway, enough ranting - if you look at the "Intel Integrated Graphics > (aka HD Graphics)" section on the above page, and specifically the > "Example Configuration For Post Broadwell System", and *skip* the bad > pkg advice, you'll find that the next step is to add > > kld_list="/boot/modules/i915kms.ko" > > to rc.conf - and actually the "post-install package message" will have > told you so, but yeah, who reads those things... > > The problem (not explained anywhere that I can find right now) is that > after building and installing the drm-kmod port (or package), you have > *two* drivers called i915kms installed. One is part of the base > system, /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko - this is the one that doesn't work > for you (or me), and gets loaded if you do "kldload i915kms". The > other is from the port that you installed, and it's the above > /boot/modules/i915kms.ko - you must ensure that this is the one that > is loaded. > > The above line makes sure that this happens at reboot (loading via > boot/loader.conf has been reported to *not* work in at least *some* > cases, and there's no advantage over loading via /etc/rc.conf), but > you can also do it manually for testing, by using the full path with > "kldload": > > kldload /boot/modules/i915kms.ko > > Read and follow also the subsequent steps in the example, as well as > the "Note:" at the end of the section. If your card is actually > supported (and frankly I'm not sure how to figure that out in any > other way than trying it), you should be fine at that point. > > --Per Hedeland > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 12:46:35 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D761A8428; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 12:46:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kappei84@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x441.google.com (mail-wr1-x441.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::441]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Ny7Z002sz4Wy7; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 12:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kappei84@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x441.google.com with SMTP id b6so1315686wrq.0; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 04:46:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=5ysgjEg6x9nPyY1IYmPBvFD9pXT8rlxvI7eUcJ0v7to=; b=B0lngWdZTznORvTN6PY5AxuDmuzglJsLccuB8tghLTAvq/lG7BlWziYiRz1zyin1Sk OUs/IuZcRdyWfOy/+6Zydjd59JjZTo8z5FSKsr44fta3pQ717TtsTxkYNOY8JSDHi4Hf dcrcRJQM5Ej442FfA8DHqDoHCJhLjFGNumtDaclC+/IkPwukey6Ck2ujKNrya8q7Q/vp xY3zND4+Po124X8siA6w2Z067dEzm5Hf+hr3fMCU610lHUxXJ4kS52hKT3OSTzK1xZWN qplGUPyfLu+Jbpp7x/xl1mAGHRiVFYHcZTz0RoTTEUroS842kP/FLJ4SCApmgMM/eD3U XuKw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5ysgjEg6x9nPyY1IYmPBvFD9pXT8rlxvI7eUcJ0v7to=; b=uW3vaEebTtlSIjkeBf6QqA9wIMbsHgGxxZhDZpnFI06JyrOjDUjFUJhtkFDUmuZRr6 4haJnzAq9/EtSbgDH/BlzeGiBjiPkLsel6ajdasQEqEEcLXQg7i68gRodacdTt1eLrZn 6EhUr1NPQPyyaZomfk8cKI/zLmp2Zj1/UWcPXYajsGVMBoI9Xh6KNC2HV5mdKmODUpCK PJNgfu/ZiEXSzn8tkRDquI5OLoLKNg9+PF3Uqk3sx3lXGdSP+uSWU1P/Wj3R5GEQsGBs FpWe0OyaLkeJ8gFKEGGYnm2bn5ehBFMFDazTjBOiKMt1Ao6ayZefl21g0TW4//rtiZJx ytTQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW/CfjJDoi1qXBIGXR55oe5wpQf1m9EtWJ0MBy7NoqyRchQ0tBs xqvtUc0MMLo6FLb4icQb5RDKw0bdTNiw9hSAnA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyg1IpWa5H3wn7c9oRQap4hylL+Jw7hT9JmLxv68+aSI7PvMJgWMt+bED9uhgYVUrAVE/cZmd/ecfcbdjcIIms= X-Received: by 2002:adf:f709:: with SMTP id r9mr46612989wrp.8.1574945191521; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 04:46:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <30022fe5-800e-0a9a-fff6-8edb0171e153@denninger.net> <5c2c0fe0-93fa-246e-a3ae-05e813e246df@panix.com> <20191128103810.9599da0b.freebsd@edvax.de> <770ebb05-9d76-1b54-5bf5-af548368e19e@hedeland.org> In-Reply-To: From: Daniele Mazzotti Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 13:46:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: vm finance Cc: Per Hedeland , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, Polytropon , FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Ny7Z002sz4Wy7 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=B0lngWdZ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kappei84@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::441 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kappei84@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.50 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (2.55), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.69), asn: 15169(-1.95), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.4.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS(1.50)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 12:46:35 -0000 Can you grep for Kms in the boot modules? Also as suggested in the link sent by Per is your user part of the video group? If not please just add it. When you compiled the drm-kms port have you noticed any error? Il gio 28 nov 2019, 13:08 vm finance ha scritto: > I don't see /boot/modules/i915kms.ko under /boot/modules > However there are several other present: > i915_bxt_* > i915_cnl* > i915_kbl*... > > How do I get i915kms.ko? > > Thanks! > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 5:01 PM Per Hedeland wrote: > > > On 2019-11-28 11:03, vm finance wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Its Intel's "UHD Graphics 620". I don't see it installed/loaded under > > > "kldstat". > > > > > > Do you think steps mentioned in > > > http://www.srobb.net/freebsdintel.html > > > > > > would suffice to get around the issue I have? > > > If not, could u please suggest next steps. > > > > > > Pls let me know. Thanks so much! > > > > Sigh, after all the discussion and problem / fix reports (mostly on > > the freebsd-x11@ list, which I'm adding to Cc) about the "new DRM" > > stuff, one would think that there should be some simple-to-follow > > *FreeBSD* web page that explained it all and could be pointed to if > > not immediately found. > > > > There is https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics, which IMHO is neither > > simple to find nor to follow, and which still has the broken-with-12.1 > > "pkg install drm-kmod" advice. I think it is sad, since there's a lot > > of great work that has gone into this - personally I have a laptop > > that wouldn't have had *any* graphics (on FreeBSD) without it, and I > > know I'm not alone in that. > > > > Anyway, enough ranting - if you look at the "Intel Integrated Graphics > > (aka HD Graphics)" section on the above page, and specifically the > > "Example Configuration For Post Broadwell System", and *skip* the bad > > pkg advice, you'll find that the next step is to add > > > > kld_list="/boot/modules/i915kms.ko" > > > > to rc.conf - and actually the "post-install package message" will have > > told you so, but yeah, who reads those things... > > > > The problem (not explained anywhere that I can find right now) is that > > after building and installing the drm-kmod port (or package), you have > > *two* drivers called i915kms installed. One is part of the base > > system, /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko - this is the one that doesn't work > > for you (or me), and gets loaded if you do "kldload i915kms". The > > other is from the port that you installed, and it's the above > > /boot/modules/i915kms.ko - you must ensure that this is the one that > > is loaded. > > > > The above line makes sure that this happens at reboot (loading via > > boot/loader.conf has been reported to *not* work in at least *some* > > cases, and there's no advantage over loading via /etc/rc.conf), but > > you can also do it manually for testing, by using the full path with > > "kldload": > > > > kldload /boot/modules/i915kms.ko > > > > Read and follow also the subsequent steps in the example, as well as > > the "Note:" at the end of the section. If your card is actually > > supported (and frankly I'm not sure how to figure that out in any > > other way than trying it), you should be fine at that point. > > > > --Per Hedeland > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 12:55:23 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C366F1A8A20; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 12:55:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-x130.google.com (mail-il1-x130.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::130]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NyKk5XKCz4XdM; 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charset="UTF-8" Please find error output of startx....and kldstat output as well. Thanks everyone for your support and help! On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 6:16 PM Daniele Mazzotti wrote: > Can you grep for Kms in the boot modules? Also as suggested in the link > sent by Per is your user part of the video group? If not please just add > it. When you compiled the drm-kms port have you noticed any error? > > Il gio 28 nov 2019, 13:08 vm finance ha scritto: > >> I don't see /boot/modules/i915kms.ko under /boot/modules >> However there are several other present: >> i915_bxt_* >> i915_cnl* >> i915_kbl*... >> >> How do I get i915kms.ko? >> >> Thanks! >> >> On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 5:01 PM Per Hedeland wrote: >> >> > On 2019-11-28 11:03, vm finance wrote: >> > > Hi, >> > > >> > > Its Intel's "UHD Graphics 620". I don't see it installed/loaded under >> > > "kldstat". >> > > >> > > Do you think steps mentioned in >> > > http://www.srobb.net/freebsdintel.html >> > > >> > > would suffice to get around the issue I have? >> > > If not, could u please suggest next steps. >> > > >> > > Pls let me know. Thanks so much! >> > >> > Sigh, after all the discussion and problem / fix reports (mostly on >> > the freebsd-x11@ list, which I'm adding to Cc) about the "new DRM" >> > stuff, one would think that there should be some simple-to-follow >> > *FreeBSD* web page that explained it all and could be pointed to if >> > not immediately found. >> > >> > There is https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics, which IMHO is neither >> > simple to find nor to follow, and which still has the broken-with-12.1 >> > "pkg install drm-kmod" advice. I think it is sad, since there's a lot >> > of great work that has gone into this - personally I have a laptop >> > that wouldn't have had *any* graphics (on FreeBSD) without it, and I >> > know I'm not alone in that. >> > >> > Anyway, enough ranting - if you look at the "Intel Integrated Graphics >> > (aka HD Graphics)" section on the above page, and specifically the >> > "Example Configuration For Post Broadwell System", and *skip* the bad >> > pkg advice, you'll find that the next step is to add >> > >> > kld_list="/boot/modules/i915kms.ko" >> > >> > to rc.conf - and actually the "post-install package message" will have >> > told you so, but yeah, who reads those things... >> > >> > The problem (not explained anywhere that I can find right now) is that >> > after building and installing the drm-kmod port (or package), you have >> > *two* drivers called i915kms installed. One is part of the base >> > system, /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko - this is the one that doesn't work >> > for you (or me), and gets loaded if you do "kldload i915kms". The >> > other is from the port that you installed, and it's the above >> > /boot/modules/i915kms.ko - you must ensure that this is the one that >> > is loaded. >> > >> > The above line makes sure that this happens at reboot (loading via >> > boot/loader.conf has been reported to *not* work in at least *some* >> > cases, and there's no advantage over loading via /etc/rc.conf), but >> > you can also do it manually for testing, by using the full path with >> > "kldload": >> > >> > kldload /boot/modules/i915kms.ko >> > >> > Read and follow also the subsequent steps in the example, as well as >> > the "Note:" at the end of the section. If your card is actually >> > supported (and frankly I'm not sure how to figure that out in any >> > other way than trying it), you should be fine at that point. >> > >> > --Per Hedeland >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > --000000000000457a1a059867a02f Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Xorg.0.log" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Xorg.0.log" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: X-Attachment-Id: f_k3ipzk4y0 WyAgNTkzOS41NzVdIApYLk9yZyBYIFNlcnZlciAxLjE4LjQKUmVsZWFzZSBEYXRlOiAyMDE2LTA3 LTE5ClsgIDU5MzkuNTc1XSBYIFByb3RvY29sIFZlcnNpb24gMTEsIFJldmlzaW9uIDAKWyAgNTkz OS41NzVdIEJ1aWxkIE9wZXJhdGluZyBTeXN0ZW06IEZyZWVCU0QgMTIuMC1SRUxFQVNFLXAxMiBh bWQ2NCAKWyAgNTkzOS41NzVdIEN1cnJlbnQgT3BlcmF0aW5nIFN5c3RlbTogRnJlZUJTRCBmcmVl 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What do you get from pkg info 'drm*' ? > However there are several other present: > i915_bxt_* > i915_cnl* > i915_kbl*... Those are firmware to potentially load for some hardware versions, not actual drivers - from the gpu-firmware-kmod port/package, I believe it gets pulled in when you install drm-kmod. > How do I get i915kms.ko? The steps you showed in another message should be enough, but you can redo them just to check that it works OK. There was some strangeness there, I don't think you should need FORCE_PKG_REGISTER if you do 'make deinstall' before 'make install', so try doing *only* this: cd /usr/ports/graphics/drm-kmod make deinstall clean install And watch out for any errors, as Daniele pointed out. On 2019-11-28 14:02, Polytropon wrote: > > X tries to load the nvidia driver - why did you install _that_ when > you have Intel graphics? Well, installing it should be OK, but it shouldn't be loaded in this case unless xorg.conf says so - i.e. "vm finance", remove xorg.conf if you have it (normally in /usr/local/etc/X11 and/or /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d) - it generally causes more harm than good. > 12 1 0xffffffff8455e000 7f280 i915kms.ko <--- YES! Unless it's the one in base, from /boot/kernel... --Per From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 14:54:40 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9FE1AC308; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 14:54:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd32.google.com (mail-io1-xd32.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d32]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47P0zM5v47z4fkn; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 14:54:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd32.google.com with SMTP id f25so3109111iog.9; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 06:54:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=bWCpExf3WWqhzTRYTfUKXfgvd/fBrd6h36P94AbnWnk=; b=lVMR3kFEQ8jE8gcXemvj5eVvFp6qbsc7c3WCVyf393dXYf4KLuf2AgpJjp/3if/4dy C+5VCVu5plHGquixD/cTlZPTau4XGlVhy/AsIvpOzf1cNfWEJgqmLwsojnd815P0BcJc XgeipXNLT0qFIPnFgWOPWFg6dlne/8s7vuShV8L+bklC9UH7Vr3GhMDdbIntN9zq7Bel 0OTGsfBU/7a0nSIe2W+4WtBYmLGsHiRUEpIT9Yy9jVYov2Rz1i9pHa3vwaSSYJxJuuEX uPZ4JMrtWAA+uRPAKJ1W3Att0Pi/uFDYE58//R2Vg23ReT45ugINK2hSUPLVkA2jnjSc DYNw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=bWCpExf3WWqhzTRYTfUKXfgvd/fBrd6h36P94AbnWnk=; b=Ik9T9KAY668QVtgLMm73xdxx5KQqQ8C3pTRJzR0Pkx7K4+xo33vi7ct7HTNTf8dP1q 4L1QmLxxGd1M0nkY0JMS8lJ3F2+SSF7rAB2pxj+rbnl2fv4SoAbkRZDABQmrwi+odHaE VlhgaPtQ6K8xUROieBYVn+9ES5SE6n3g/uQNeKRhaSdCn+Zz9rdp6mub8iCJ9bx+KglI A2m3INGGPWlJ00ymZQSR1XA5JlqDPrq2eGA+cnhy8ntWyhzhHFeEknXFykkjpIujl0d8 DW8zobpb83mgSWbdfLFFXqCCqpXpSV5C2s2rDGdCgHtSOEY75N6P76/tR1TFQRZayN2/ cG5g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXUHmvxFEMrvYGleY+Q8UaC14syxU14gE9OgV6uXnldhnj1FO3E Nw4Lh70QrDNKcgHBk3m6hSHRDOZ3auwqZ31+ka8TP7eO X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwGRYy0L4wUfnE7RdLJviH7g6IWZga0dfxMyjhf0m6RkinJMpqZsEm3VhcRbyy0jmbWJJox/VW4ykrUPwo78D8= X-Received: by 2002:a02:952c:: with SMTP id y41mr6894675jah.129.1574952878217; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 06:54:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191128103810.9599da0b.freebsd@edvax.de> <770ebb05-9d76-1b54-5bf5-af548368e19e@hedeland.org> <20191128140254.fc3ee735.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20191128140254.fc3ee735.freebsd@edvax.de> From: vm finance Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 20:24:26 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: Polytropon Cc: Daniele Mazzotti , Per Hedeland , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47P0zM5v47z4fkn X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=lVMR3kFE; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vmfinance2@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d32 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vmfinance2@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[5]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-5.36), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.26), asn: 15169(-1.95), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.3.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 14:54:40 -0000 Its highly likely that its misconfigured ;( trying my best to get it to work so I can do my real work ;( rather than bothering everyone. I am thinking of quitting this startx...and use ssh to login to the laptop to do my work. Basically use ssh over wifi and continue 1. Are there any known issues with getting wifi to work in non-X environment in 12.1 RELEASE? 2. Is there a way to have multiple consoles (like we do Alt-F1, Alt-F2 .... ) for Linux? Thanks everyone! On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 6:33 PM Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 18:25:09 +0530, vm finance wrote: > > Please find error output of startx....and kldstat output as well. > > For better reading, it ends in the following lines: > > [ 5939.577] (II) LoadModule: "nvidia" > [ 5939.577] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so > [ 5939.577] (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" > [ 5939.577] compiled for 1.6.99.901, module version = 1.0.0 > [ 5939.577] Module class: X.Org Video Driver > [ 5939.577] (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver 440.36 Tue Nov 12 08:10:56 > UTC 2019 > [ 5939.577] (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs > [ 5939.577] (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) > [ 5939.577] (--) using VT number 9 > > [ 5939.578] (EE) No devices detected. > [ 5939.578] (EE) > Fatal server error: > [ 5939.578] (EE) no screens found(EE) > [ 5939.578] (EE) > Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support > at http://wiki.x.org > for help. > [ 5939.578] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" > for additional information. > [ 5939.578] (EE) > [ 5939.579] (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file. > > X tries to load the nvidia driver - why did you install _that_ when > you have Intel graphics? It also doesn't attempt to load the Intel > graphics driver which leads to my assumption that it isn't installed. > > Please try installing xf86-video-intel (using pkg). > > According to your kldstat output, the required module is loaded > (I'll mark the relevant entry with an arrow): > > Id Refs Address Size Name > 1 56 0xffffffff80200000 2448d90 kernel > 2 2 0xffffffff8264a000 b7bd8 linux.ko > 3 3 0xffffffff82702000 9698 linux_common.ko > 4 1 0xffffffff8270c000 1a8db00 nvidia.ko <--- WHY? > 5 1 0xffffffff8433d000 15d20 if_iwm.ko > 6 1 0xffffffff84353000 1ba76f iwm8265fw.ko > 7 1 0xffffffff8450e000 4260 ng_ubt.ko > 8 3 0xffffffff84513000 9e30 netgraph.ko > 9 2 0xffffffff8451d000 91b8 ng_hci.ko > 10 1 0xffffffff84527000 9c0 ng_bluetooth.ko > 11 1 0xffffffff84528000 35b20 linux64.ko > 12 1 0xffffffff8455e000 7f280 i915kms.ko <--- YES! > 13 1 0xffffffff845de000 44c48 drm2.ko > 14 4 0xffffffff84623000 1fa0 iicbus.ko > 15 1 0xffffffff84625000 fd8 iic.ko > 16 1 0xffffffff84626000 1570 iicbb.ko > > The drm.ko module is also loaded. You'll need to have your > username be a member of the "video" group to make it actually > work for direct rendering in X, if I remember correctly. > > But why did you also load the nvidia kernel module? It shouldn't > be there if you're using an Intel GPU. This matches the unneeded > nvidia X11 driver... > > I think you're currently fighting a misconfigured (rather than > a non-working) system... ;-) > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 18:32:03 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140D11B26E5 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 18:32:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47P5pB42KWz3Q4T for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 18:32:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from rain.home (pool-72-74-69-77.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [72.74.69.77]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47P5p93ltMz1Prd for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 13:32:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20191128103810.9599da0b.freebsd@edvax.de> <770ebb05-9d76-1b54-5bf5-af548368e19e@hedeland.org> <20191128140254.fc3ee735.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Kurt Hackenberg Message-ID: <17109e52-a8d5-be58-d29f-aacd30f7de01@panix.com> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 13:31:59 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20191128140254.fc3ee735.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47P5pB42KWz3Q4T X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kh@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kh@panix.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.76 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:166.84.0.0/16:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[panix.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[89.1.84.166.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; IP_SCORE(-3.26)[ip: (-9.30), ipnet: 166.84.0.0/16(-3.85), asn: 2033(-3.08), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2033, ipnet:166.84.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 18:32:03 -0000 On 2019-11-28 08:02, Polytropon wrote: > The drm.ko module is also loaded. You'll need to have your > username be a member of the "video" group to make it actually > work for direct rendering in X, if I remember correctly. > > But why did you also load the nvidia kernel module? It shouldn't > be there if you're using an Intel GPU. This matches the unneeded > nvidia X11 driver... At one point, vm finance told us that computer has an Nvidia graphics processor: > I actually have "Pro-level NVIDIA® Quadro® P500 graphics" on my P52S > Thinkpad. Maybe that's true. Maybe that computer has both that and an Intel graphics processor that's part of the main processor. A web search finds that Lenovo used to sell a ThinkPad P52S, but doesn't anymore. Ads for that computer confirm that it has "Pro-level NVIDIA® Quadro® P500 graphics", and say the processor is an Intel i7-8550U, which includes "Intel® UHD Graphics 620", which apparently is a graphics processor packaged with the main processor. So, vm finance, it looks like that computer has two graphics processors. Which one do you want to use? I guess the Nvidia graphics processor is probably faster. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 18:45:06 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145A81B323D for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 18:45:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-x130.google.com (mail-il1-x130.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::130]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47P65F2cpKz3R1H for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 18:45:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-x130.google.com with SMTP id p6so25002852ilp.1 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:45:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=vHEAh+dEvO+cJ3zX3jxNX4UbHnf+/bCVaMv6IUjBQ4Y=; b=tB4cf49cJDGcaqSGHbMB1bV96YFDr9qJovdG5KP9beg5NrTUd8Wn3aZ/05L2wxKrpt 6QJS5kYUQhFr66/UKTjuylXj3eSNbSLC/rK3FiOHMSdrzqP3KdOhw19s4aITY9BI61gm PfNf6M17IDXRKiZDeBwjJt2/4oJ3k6qnMtNILIF1Tqd1T3Aq+2cIUMh4m8y7l2Cy1V6J nByqCF/4dIx92+Ja8pgDrk6QaDnL9973wpgW9FniAmUj4q8cYcj6T1F+qML1c2rrMiAq czBYN9+S+UwytWnambra1246ygSB9cA4Mhdt3Zqr+GtlXD1vU3mpTRw3KVojRgypZWfm 1h9g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=vHEAh+dEvO+cJ3zX3jxNX4UbHnf+/bCVaMv6IUjBQ4Y=; b=rKLOlx48R1X0zYKbunwe4EaE/mOKGg3Yn9cNFuHkHyyVfaI+O8oAllLjrQL7IpGVdq nlwPHeCzs2G8wHC/FUtBU0NBV5KdAsrpyN0VYu9q9cHa7oOaQK1en9fbi99TWg+0tEaq J/XGCArkscrlJrlIy7+eId3DDwxkjmHzIdWd9X0pYJAYtHBfGsuUxbM1lw/uCGX6jjiU Wz+I9kihxbx6RoSkjVc9BNSlrkZHR+7PpJ3mSm+cpX+0gQCnpHZ9ZNhqncsIb1riD3ep EpMvhdcBqY2YUB/34xN1RR5Zf1Bmfhtl6M0+AyGqokG92U6Snr3YoRCt5HsPzsIK5wqH oINg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWLliufAUxAkkdZj1DXYap+k3splJKseY35tMuxDpBZxCXdMaKf W0SnUr6E56FwS4VeMmnnn8uJkBTMZFmZU7YFrPw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxk+Mjr3ryvmvY0pt7AzD18SkQblJDx0Ck+/6RgFzV+J+le/lp/QDhbl6DqiChAV1uK6VLjPETPVmwfxluJyXY= X-Received: by 2002:a92:6a08:: with SMTP id f8mr48394383ilc.27.1574966704114; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:45:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191128103810.9599da0b.freebsd@edvax.de> <770ebb05-9d76-1b54-5bf5-af548368e19e@hedeland.org> <20191128140254.fc3ee735.freebsd@edvax.de> <17109e52-a8d5-be58-d29f-aacd30f7de01@panix.com> In-Reply-To: <17109e52-a8d5-be58-d29f-aacd30f7de01@panix.com> From: vm finance Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 00:14:53 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: Kurt Hackenberg Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47P65F2cpKz3R1H X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=tB4cf49c; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vmfinance2@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::130 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vmfinance2@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-8.60), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.26), asn: 15169(-1.95), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[0.3.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 18:45:06 -0000 Frankly, I just need to be up/running...whatever works. But looks like its stalled again.. make failed during pkg install Xorg hal dbus portsnap fetch update cd /usr/ports/graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod/ make <=3D=3D=3D=3D error here says "drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16*** is vulnerable" I tried to workaround this by "make DISABLE_VULNERABILITY" but it still fails ... On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 12:02 AM Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On 2019-11-28 08:02, Polytropon wrote: > > > The drm.ko module is also loaded. You'll need to have your > > username be a member of the "video" group to make it actually > > work for direct rendering in X, if I remember correctly. > > > > But why did you also load the nvidia kernel module? It shouldn't > > be there if you're using an Intel GPU. This matches the unneeded > > nvidia X11 driver... > > At one point, vm finance told us that computer has an Nvidia graphics > processor: > > > I actually have "Pro-level NVIDIA=C2=AE Quadro=C2=AE P500 graphics" on = my P52S > > Thinkpad. > > Maybe that's true. Maybe that computer has both that and an Intel > graphics processor that's part of the main processor. > > A web search finds that Lenovo used to sell a ThinkPad P52S, but doesn't > anymore. Ads for that computer confirm that it has "Pro-level NVIDIA=C2= =AE > Quadro=C2=AE P500 graphics", and say the processor is an Intel i7-8550U, > which includes "Intel=C2=AE UHD Graphics 620", which apparently is a grap= hics > processor packaged with the main processor. > > So, vm finance, it looks like that computer has two graphics processors. > Which one do you want to use? I guess the Nvidia graphics processor is > probably faster. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 18:45:46 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C2C1B336D for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 18:45:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd2a.google.com (mail-io1-xd2a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2a]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47P66126Z3z3R5v for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 18:45:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vm.finance2@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd2a.google.com with SMTP id j20so29810134ioo.11 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:45:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=GPPGyVBr/ua9jlU/VGJGPzimEiwylxttJVqw7jh1n/8=; b=qkZko5yov26cMAWUW4vzsetR+1NBnqT2M8u779Prt4fz8RBwj0hnQ3Zr88cwNhljIg O5n5LE4zpopeSe2RVs6mSbOfP/VZi7DrFb/hZ0rigItmjBPA5aF5CMzow7B6wN1aKuwC HTWwobhk2jaLOdXa+bZsSW8IJYJG1jVhJYJhnUHpctUCnVUH9Onui3frO5HCiEAP6c3U UAm6TaU9Ef3fWF5e5oT+MyTKNJnJmp1wZlM35lE7VReuSEG8Vj0tnnN2LzI5oxE2axwC ezWHk7494MbItWxjOGYGc+MopeDcLH7ATuLCQscoVsXSN4c786Dof1TXgEYUflVCJqbG gf0g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=GPPGyVBr/ua9jlU/VGJGPzimEiwylxttJVqw7jh1n/8=; b=JHbdmM1qHvgOK2pAk5t4sua/HWqOknfvYfhTBPsgjfuXNdE+3kWdUCFddCUkvmMeCE Li2jwbndNwXjzbV1wGd0DyaZ1Q8sBLGwnSg7JSXi06zrqQv/ni30ypfL+qk58Yyefxhj uwUyATP23ylwPmtsQK1OmJP1xUkvjwAkZJeROcCQ8KTUpSFlmVnHDk8Q9OdhnCFc5MDW pEWbKIvNnzBPuRD89yBOfPNioEWUYI4WRiFTauI1ymOIikfDm+x3XjrfJBswMqCPH5hc MD446HowgzFYKgnHHtqASzV0H/acUEKGWGInbVJQ0SheePYSqrV2kdN0vAIHF2khmc53 AqTQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXFLyfB1BukA/fNbxT5R5wAAWThvmBOwFYBs8sSJBnGCdy7/I4k fX4Wm2GRaa2m0HxjMh0/sp5XMC/JkeqhK7cRIszaXA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzHR9NKwJAqIdCUsXHyjISNdtzBNtZzofnivUxl/WP4wipkJBLWinLKUIeKOSqX2augFTzfFMqQBtCYYHOzXhI= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:9585:: with SMTP id a5mr29142999ioo.27.1574966744427; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:45:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191128103810.9599da0b.freebsd@edvax.de> <770ebb05-9d76-1b54-5bf5-af548368e19e@hedeland.org> <20191128140254.fc3ee735.freebsd@edvax.de> <17109e52-a8d5-be58-d29f-aacd30f7de01@panix.com> In-Reply-To: From: vm finance Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 00:15:33 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: Kurt Hackenberg Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47P66126Z3z3R5v X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=qkZko5yo; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vmfinance2@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vmfinance2@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-6.21), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.26), asn: 15169(-1.95), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[a.2.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 18:45:46 -0000 BTW, I have disabled Nvidia driver but still having issues.. On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 12:14 AM vm finance wrote: > Frankly, I just need to be up/running...whatever works. > > But looks like its stalled again.. > make failed during > > pkg install Xorg hal dbus > portsnap fetch update > cd /usr/ports/graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod/ > make > <=3D=3D=3D=3D error here > > says "drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16*** is vulnerable" > > I tried to workaround this by "make DISABLE_VULNERABILITY" but it still > fails ... > > > > > On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 12:02 AM Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > >> On 2019-11-28 08:02, Polytropon wrote: >> >> > The drm.ko module is also loaded. You'll need to have your >> > username be a member of the "video" group to make it actually >> > work for direct rendering in X, if I remember correctly. >> > >> > But why did you also load the nvidia kernel module? It shouldn't >> > be there if you're using an Intel GPU. This matches the unneeded >> > nvidia X11 driver... >> >> At one point, vm finance told us that computer has an Nvidia graphics >> processor: >> >> > I actually have "Pro-level NVIDIA=C2=AE Quadro=C2=AE P500 graphics" on= my P52S >> > Thinkpad. >> >> Maybe that's true. Maybe that computer has both that and an Intel >> graphics processor that's part of the main processor. >> >> A web search finds that Lenovo used to sell a ThinkPad P52S, but doesn't >> anymore. Ads for that computer confirm that it has "Pro-level NVIDIA=C2= =AE >> Quadro=C2=AE P500 graphics", and say the processor is an Intel i7-8550U, >> which includes "Intel=C2=AE UHD Graphics 620", which apparently is a gra= phics >> processor packaged with the main processor. >> >> So, vm finance, it looks like that computer has two graphics processors. >> Which one do you want to use? I guess the Nvidia graphics processor is >> probably faster. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 18:51:54 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A5F1B3876 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 18:51:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot1-x334.google.com (mail-ot1-x334.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::334]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47P6F54knGz3wdY for ; 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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47P6F54knGz3wdY X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=K4EQgJJY; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kurtbuff@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::334 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kurtbuff@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-7.05), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.26), asn: 15169(-1.95), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[4.3.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 18:51:54 -0000 Laptops with two graphics processors typically use the most powerful one only to drive external monitors, and possibly only through a docking station, though I'm not as clear on that point. Kurt On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 11:32 AM Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > > On 2019-11-28 08:02, Polytropon wrote: > > > The drm.ko module is also loaded. You'll need to have your > > username be a member of the "video" group to make it actually > > work for direct rendering in X, if I remember correctly. > > > > But why did you also load the nvidia kernel module? It shouldn't > > be there if you're using an Intel GPU. This matches the unneeded > > nvidia X11 driver... > > At one point, vm finance told us that computer has an Nvidia graphics > processor: > > > I actually have "Pro-level NVIDIA=C2=AE Quadro=C2=AE P500 graphics" on = my P52S > > Thinkpad. > > Maybe that's true. Maybe that computer has both that and an Intel > graphics processor that's part of the main processor. > > A web search finds that Lenovo used to sell a ThinkPad P52S, but doesn't > anymore. Ads for that computer confirm that it has "Pro-level NVIDIA=C2= =AE > Quadro=C2=AE P500 graphics", and say the processor is an Intel i7-8550U, > which includes "Intel=C2=AE UHD Graphics 620", which apparently is a grap= hics > processor packaged with the main processor. > > So, vm finance, it looks like that computer has two graphics processors. > Which one do you want to use? I guess the Nvidia graphics processor is > probably faster. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 21:20:41 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3328F1B8A3A for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 21:20:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.74]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47P9Xm0X36z46Yw for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 21:20:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.235.226]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue106 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MfI21-1i8m9u33Vb-00gsz2; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 22:20:29 +0100 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 22:20:27 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Kurt Hackenberg Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop Message-Id: <20191128222027.e9837ae2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <17109e52-a8d5-be58-d29f-aacd30f7de01@panix.com> References: <20191128103810.9599da0b.freebsd@edvax.de> <770ebb05-9d76-1b54-5bf5-af548368e19e@hedeland.org> <20191128140254.fc3ee735.freebsd@edvax.de> <17109e52-a8d5-be58-d29f-aacd30f7de01@panix.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:cZuSZ1st2E2UNYyf0WK38kZJHd4LdtNWhWe6QSowOTEAFH+0LJ7 S8ZyvW40zbeKrcsRR0eusic0s/UdEujlgNtayA3QT4Z+hZuhSva8ssT9RIhuUa7xYaxgc0v 5UwMRvzuTs4UURUGXPDYjbi3cpFv2oqDxBqh9fkC0zZVQl6e8bz+g0qXt0HpPfFlr+fFJyX TUOHOK3OsPrt79tzKAKMQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:PTZWLf/5l10=:AW/66QFFkztpxQEuz+WGR3 BLpeEjzGzhW64Sl+JYaGj3VWgTMI6IkdXADEyowY7qtZaHcadCt2JsXMqbWJgaKVPNkhCgn0b Oy4Yd5NMrH1fo8HTYxeBeQdfgRXLLkWaeHwV/Jqf6xlCZKz5zG28aBG9gIfZCCxgyGZrlbz7O WSLHyfou7vW703KHABAUBfbu6DqgACjU7zAkuhkacG5KN0DRoDPfGkT1Y+yhg3Slphm/fJlQN iCc1cGnomJDs1jaAjh0i6LAl+bq7An5qdU+HRzGHg1logk3PuSk3HJcOJoc36y0vYIbEmTHTc wvhbnjF2DHFJTRa8AHoNmuYNu9N1Oc+7zps1ExTsTrwaihzmObyIVy6SYLCW2Vh1sWhBi/srz NMAfXAZh/Luzg7hsdrphTQTTzPPstRBjlfsMR8siB3QJdGQYRZjbGQS65FAF5ILWeFjMWH/1+ DWE7G9QEzyZ2jln/wnGs68BGXhJHjuU/5GoQfNXuIG/8+c29iQAksly6a2IhjlAmZ/eWC+3Uw /pmOq5cDhNneWMTzGbUSBHrERKAbXAwFq5Lmd9pGs/YMzak4NGmvP/n5KAtH57HnTP7X3tvE5 WKilLwElYWl1YbSeo1G1mFzEQZyVR76rkTKol0OVeYegUjg7IG0VpntqBs3h3z8RadwfgoVI1 0Z5IU8WMECPE08jrD2HHZ/5tuMrZVF+oq1+nQ2N/LJ/cV+6dkdXcNOWt803qmhFHchYc32XSU pyLkdFQHve3c6PzZgbsWosjZEaOFjfne4wX9mG3dJnaGxaJOP87DQVtxMT0pxLQ7KZQOnUN5x xWdL/YQ/XaeH7z+s7++VIuRh0e4tBvhOC5VwixPIwHuONT4jnb9hG+o6RidYmPUhRpROm9TZ1 OfDKEBME3UJXOEIuQljQ== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47P9Xm0X36z46Yw X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 217.72.192.74) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.72 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[226.235.5.178.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.98)[0.975,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.97)[0.971,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[74.192.72.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.38)[ip: (-0.64), ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(0.24), asn: 8560(2.29), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 21:20:41 -0000 On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 13:31:59 -0500, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On 2019-11-28 08:02, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > > The drm.ko module is also loaded. You'll need to have your > > username be a member of the "video" group to make it actually > > work for direct rendering in X, if I remember correctly. > >=20 > > But why did you also load the nvidia kernel module? It shouldn't > > be there if you're using an Intel GPU. This matches the unneeded > > nvidia X11 driver... >=20 > At one point, vm finance told us that computer has an Nvidia graphics=20 > processor: >=20 > > I actually have "Pro-level NVIDIA=AE Quadro=AE P500 graphics" on my P52S > > Thinkpad. >=20 > Maybe that's true. Maybe that computer has both that and an Intel=20 > graphics processor that's part of the main processor. >=20 > A web search finds that Lenovo used to sell a ThinkPad P52S, but doesn't= =20 > anymore. Ads for that computer confirm that it has "Pro-level NVIDIA=AE=20 > Quadro=AE P500 graphics", and say the processor is an Intel i7-8550U,=20 > which includes "Intel=AE UHD Graphics 620", which apparently is a graphic= s=20 > processor packaged with the main processor. >=20 > So, vm finance, it looks like that computer has two graphics processors.= =20 > Which one do you want to use? I guess the Nvidia graphics processor is=20 > probably faster. I seem to have missed that information - I only remember that there was Intel graphics involved, that's why the i915kms... But you're right, in case it's nVidia, that one probably should be used. It also requires the drm and the nvidia kernel modules, as well as the nvidia-driver (for X) installed, which seems to be the case. Still it doesn't explain why that combination doesn't seem to find any usable hardware (see my previous post where I mentioned the kernel modules and the X log file's entries). --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 21:20:51 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2DD41B8A62; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 21:20:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47P9Xy5mHxz46cG; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 21:20:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.235.226]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue106 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MVdUQ-1iBB0W2D5A-00RVa4; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 22:15:28 +0100 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 22:15:27 +0100 From: Polytropon To: vm finance Cc: Per Hedeland , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, Daniele Mazzotti , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop Message-Id: <20191128221527.d6d86459.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20191128103810.9599da0b.freebsd@edvax.de> <770ebb05-9d76-1b54-5bf5-af548368e19e@hedeland.org> <20191128140254.fc3ee735.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:3pIlV+59ZrUY3iBvCjq+y3RNMINwqYPNDwC5SUsLmJ4d5RsSsg7 rbXlRFw18hG7MFwRcoLFf1qlSp33Ttr1HsmcngQrb9H6Na+1wub/4GhUqaeAm5UZydnPAye LmQiojX4pWVqGGXOkMU/NiyzRxle8Qi/CThqdopiB151/RJWyEmYPzk+yFuXMiSRw2kTNXJ BMUvpRKuFZLTMsScP/Uzg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:KKF7leu3Keo=:I6u3/DHpFFluUAO7ONj9ov 7L13ZFGuBo7IWXlABCN0s5s6usEzJ98k3V+CUzlz3JIkUjUff+6EjFxMtmZ3sy1fulZJxRIgU IB1GBWB3UX/NNKiJa0Eynn5atW2vDKExeybPvCltSuroao+/OiQAVTDxeY7oYjK5kLDoENig6 TCmRB+wZ3yBt2HsXjB6vkwe2X2GA2yk4EiKM58YgPcymBUIZYtMTKFm5YodSDviSICbXZC5Ci UsSmLfVjubK3NfKK1/m8/YCj0jXpXR90cv+pJab0+qMmGQk5I5pRxf0wResWD61fA8jmwcQ5r pTjgzwTGN3ezT09/tbMK5OP2SNV38Ke8okbE9miyNhjjrUgo4o3d25+oCLMamg/koTC6LMz6i GbIsJIDVg8fXBsFo9bYWnQPcS1X436/80lA/6TUd4DDqpebD3BKVAVpj9Cjv1IwBrqyIfHwES 4bYbyD5TQswOPRQY0kq4S1YdHC99SDEBbhLFqy4XyTveTBQ1N7CscmR4veg+HTB9uyp/umzw1 RdESX6Ih0/OIUaaxKD92MPw23MooNCqdJTMOFHSXqLCUIObSpp2bYbetLpzLkdhQLa+SPAauZ N24IlXQhz5X2LghwPNpXXQxWyb7ZkpaCEYRqsDVioIGOLS0uq3+CF15aa/05dTVolWOgF41b4 e15OYzlVcqji8UEUpJVS5Obmi2BLGQbMEPrsPup+Y6b79tLVmG6TetcUd3AJ39fAAHn41uNV0 2RqlaCiK7TfsNh/cqt7qLXaRWfdyHtUmeMwU+OdpqUbk1SRORTtmlJldJHWEnE6dTZN1yLzWg KOs3u+0qrBV9kagr6RjjoIVxb03/zBlN1UDqHd5YY/or67Hc+0NzrGhnoc33gAlkLD0hmixY7 MraAhZ7Lq/kR9oz/D7fA== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47P9Xy5mHxz46cG X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 217.72.192.73) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [6.45 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; IP_SCORE(0.55)[ip: (0.23), ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(0.24), asn: 8560(2.29), country: DE(-0.01)]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[226.235.5.178.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.997,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.999,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[73.192.72.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body]; SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS(1.50)[] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 21:20:51 -0000 On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 20:24:26 +0530, vm finance wrote: > Its highly likely that its misconfigured ;( trying my best to get it to > work so I can do my real work ;( rather than bothering everyone. No big deal. ;-) > I am thinking of quitting this startx...and use ssh to login to the laptop > to do my work. You need to make sure the following applies to your system: Stuff you don't need gets removed (nvidia kernel module and probably nvidia X driver - if you don't have nVidia hardware, there's no reason to have those installed and _loaded_). First try the i915kms.ko supplied by FreeBSD (the OS version, _not_ the ports version). Don't touch anything DRM-related yet. Install the xf86-video-intel driver for X. Check that there is no xorg.conf on your system that (for whatever reason) tries to explicitely load the nvidia driver. With no configuration file, autodetection should work just fine. If you see you _need_ the DRM kernel module from ports, get the ports tree, build it yourself: # cd /usr/ports/graphics/drm-kmod # make In case it's already installed (check the output of the following command: "pkg info 'drm*'"), remove the installed version first, then install yours: # make deinstall # make reinstall Then check the configuration files again: _no_ xorg.conf, relevant entries in /boot/loader.conf or /etc/rc.conf as per the documentation. If you have successfully rebooted, check the output of "kldstat". Verify that your username is a member of the group "video". If not - add it. Then login as that user, and run "startx". It should work. Summary: Know your system's state _before_ trying to add something new. > Basically use ssh over wifi and continue That's possible, but why surrender that fast? > 1. Are there any known issues with getting wifi to work in non-X > environment in 12.1 RELEASE? Not that I know. You just have to add the correct entries to /etc/rc.conf, and your access credentials to /etc/wpa_supplicant_conf, that's it. Here is an example: In /etc/rc.conf: wlans_wpi0="wlan0" ifconfig_wlan0="WPA DHCP" In /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf: network={ ssid="NETWORKNAME" key_mgmt=WPA-PSK psk="THEPASSWORD" } Substitute NETWORKNAME and THEPASSWORD accordingly. :-) The wireless network will be brought up on system startup automatically. To find out your WiFi adapter's name, check "pciconf -lv | less" and "ifconfig -a" (this command is also very convenient to verify that you are connected). You can find more information here: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-wireless.html http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/wireless.html https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/setup-wifi-network-step-by-step.67577/ You can always use the console to check each step for success, so no guessing needed if you seem to have connection problems. > 2. Is there a way to have multiple consoles (like we do Alt-F1, Alt-F2 .... > ) for Linux? For Linux? In how far? FreeBSD has virtual consoles that you can select with Alt+PF1, Alt+PF2 and so on. You can press PRINT to cycle through the consoles, and of course SCROLL LOCK or PAUSE to activate and deactivate the scroll buffer (scrolling with arrow and page keys). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 21:41:22 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160C71B96AF for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 21:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47PB0c6y2Bz47lF for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 21:41:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.235.226]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue106 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MK3iK-1iMkOw1ZiY-00LVrI; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 22:41:16 +0100 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 22:41:15 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH" Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop Message-Id: <20191128224115.4bfde0f7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20191128103810.9599da0b.freebsd@edvax.de> <770ebb05-9d76-1b54-5bf5-af548368e19e@hedeland.org> <20191128140254.fc3ee735.freebsd@edvax.de> <17109e52-a8d5-be58-d29f-aacd30f7de01@panix.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:+86RFVtSxWKe7pONnJMlxrbdMD7YuEzxA2XGMZMOv0JXSnggQr5 4MNNHiK1yUL2hyyHiC/jBkRqWc8uYH9RHnV1G8eVJaLBWlk3MAMFfiNXJaq4Co55ZEwdQ+S 3ACiNz5iGJQgJsE+rsvt1Ovivbaaqp/dzRNTQf7ai9y+wZQ0fr3R2C0pT2HsHa00K5OG6HX mOF3sD4Jr5v0YeCZP/clQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:kRr+rSBi4nQ=:KSBEuzLs6+v4GS4Ey4Abnr 1o9TZgbk5bAcgCYmGSwsxZnBlD5VDow2gLiAODN7kPipdGpP33gGHG7o3cCpyjsiKE0h7Rekg FLQ+44eQNd09lOoRusWoobplpN5j/XCpuyHO5x5z280NHklu22+Zg606KKV/+QSu/J1YF+6vs 3BC8kDvxjVcDylQHR5RSHRfiiQ0zO4QmnGA8RFbxEk3GApBDNUwlrcYDHS+1OPM0yNLlyyExF bfmz30JBk4Yk+3HvUy05cILZLLce0JwwNZcaselSzDcg7nar1iULYyjiyN+CDONHImGLkF9a1 zFusgWvIx4/wsbi/VQAgK4buFY/zsR7lusZOr13uWbPA72+HT8d/Tvb1PzKHYMwOCeeqObJVm SlWzp/rmrghGZDm+yHrUOXa947ty3iDOKwuAn6s48x1A0S0kxaUITGAD0Ne8Wm7sXRMWcn5Yh ZCKbf41JMCOyZdZoXfviko2FYXQU1DAtEG414uiZlvxBociSbgIe1YuTDVjw0w9LlSD3YVxza He5qw4L9sK0N3w15D8BIYB4AczET3ukV6GifRAFH4AIPFxQdiMV/A1elIstzDKfNu5r5TXws0 8PxD67hOzPj2uEaj0zOELuXzlIcoGnGWeZAA8po0UuyBPuGJlcCesr8uDjBEn5eb3SIaZseKL JtldasUcV6UpbDnHcEMPQJSZsxpqMskbMpwk9KqYfoUB9HWrsO2mQvqJ4+qawNwMSZiFz0TzS dy15oul3vFCG8a5jjhLmMPvPaGUCBhMy10oTUgP1I/U4GqKk0+AOtgkmV8QKuh7JSv8liiwmQ lHeehUOy9TlDY/Jb+eiNwc/ViZTdmQn6Wm5xjWuM+2A5mUXgwJuwHxm8usQ6XaH4RZrkZ/M0D qXgrfbcUXQyH3RGO3M2g== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47PB0c6y2Bz47lF X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.17.13) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.92 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[226.235.5.178.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.75)[0.753,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.69)[0.686,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[13.17.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.09)[ip: (-0.61), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.23), asn: 8560(2.28), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 21:41:22 -0000 On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 11:51:39 -0700, Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH wrote: > Laptops with two graphics processors typically use the most powerful > one only to drive external monitors, and possibly only through a > docking station, though I'm not as clear on that point. Depends. I have a HP one that seems to contain a "logic" that switches from one GPU to the other depending on a HDMI connection being present, but displays the same image both on the LCD and the externel HDMI display. However, it would be helpful to verify the _exact_ hardware. With "pciconf -lv | less" and looking for a "display" entry, one or two should be found. An entry for nVidia might look like this (desktop card): vgapci0@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x06201462 chip=0x039210de rev=0xa1 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation' device = 'NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS (G73)' class = display subclass = VGA Or for Intel, in a Lenovo Thinkpad R61i: vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x20b517aa chip=0x2a028086 rev=0x0c hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary)' class = display subclass = VGA vgapci1@pci0:0:2:1: class=0x038000 card=0x20b517aa chip=0x2a038086 rev=0x0c hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (secondary)' class = display As you can see - two instances of Intel graphics - I don't know if this is due to the fact that the R61i is in a docking station where the CRT monitor is connected - yes, it _is_ an actual CRT. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 22:41:57 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B041BAE2D for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 22:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47PCLX5SfMz4BbD for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 22:41:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from rain.home (pool-72-74-69-77.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [72.74.69.77]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47PCLW5myyz1Z5c for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 17:41:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20191128103810.9599da0b.freebsd@edvax.de> <770ebb05-9d76-1b54-5bf5-af548368e19e@hedeland.org> <20191128140254.fc3ee735.freebsd@edvax.de> <17109e52-a8d5-be58-d29f-aacd30f7de01@panix.com> From: Kurt Hackenberg Message-ID: <63f0a836-c0d6-a56f-7740-0fbd2da2eaa6@panix.com> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 17:41:53 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47PCLX5SfMz4BbD X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kh@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kh@panix.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.79 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:166.84.0.0/16]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[panix.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[89.1.84.166.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; IP_SCORE(-3.29)[ip: (-9.34), ipnet: 166.84.0.0/16(-3.91), asn: 2033(-3.13), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2033, ipnet:166.84.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 22:41:57 -0000 On 2019-11-28 13:44, vm finance wrote: > Frankly, I just need to be up/running...whatever works. Have you tried booting it without loading any graphics kernel module at all? (That is, no kld_list= in /etc/rc.conf.) That would mean no hardware acceleration of graphics, but the system might run. Also, have you *removed* this from /boot/loader.conf? hw.syscons.disable=1 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 23:13:17 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6134B1BB8DE for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 23:13:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Received: from mailout.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [64.68.202.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47PD2h3lCTz4Cqd for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 23:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 412F4A54CF; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 23:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout.easydns.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (emo13-pco.easydns.vpn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NiVJC1yOc-xC; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 23:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hedeland.org (81-228-157-209-no289.tbcn.telia.com [81.228.157.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B26CA4C91; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 23:13:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pluto.hedeland.org (pluto.hedeland.org [10.1.1.5]) by tellus.hedeland.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id xASNDApE028555 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 29 Nov 2019 00:13:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Subject: Re: Fwd: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: Polytropon Cc: vm finance , FreeBSD Questions References: <20191128103810.9599da0b.freebsd@edvax.de> <770ebb05-9d76-1b54-5bf5-af548368e19e@hedeland.org> <20191128140254.fc3ee735.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191128222746.c7012db5.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Per Hedeland Message-ID: <32dff209-126a-b018-f8c5-afca82999213@hedeland.org> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 00:13:10 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20191128222746.c7012db5.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47PD2h3lCTz4Cqd X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of per@hedeland.org has no SPF policy when checking 64.68.202.10) smtp.mailfrom=per@hedeland.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.93 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[209.157.228.81.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hedeland.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.84)[0.845,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.49)[ip: (0.70), ipnet: 64.68.200.0/22(0.13), asn: 16686(1.71), country: CA(-0.09)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.79)[0.790,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[10.202.68.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16686, ipnet:64.68.200.0/22, country:CA]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 23:13:17 -0000 On 2019-11-28 22:27, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 22:44:58 +0530, vm finance wrote: >> Well, make at step #4 gave an error >> >> pkg install Xorg hal dbus >> portsnap fetch update > > Correct. > > > >> cd /usr/ports/graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod/ >> make >> <==== error here >> >> Pls see the attached screen shot... > > The list doesn't allow binary attachments. For future reference, > it's always good to have the actual _text_ in the message. > > It reads (typed from screenshot, not fully aligned, but I'll get > the relevant message parts): > > ===> drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.g20190814 has known issues > [...] > *** Error code 1 > Stop. > make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod > *** Error code 1 > Stop. > make: stopped in /usr/ports/graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod > > The message suggests to use > > # make DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes install > > to install it anyway. > > That's the whole "problem" - you need to explicitely consent to > install this software because it has known security issues (as > pointed out by the message). The current port - i.e. for drm-fbsd12.0-kmod-4.16.g20191120, brand new - *doesn't* have a vulnerability - I installed 12.1-RELEASE and the current drm-kmod port on my laptop (was running 12.0-RELEASE) just to verify that it worked fine:-), and it did (for me) - even a bit better than with 12.0-RELEASE, since the X11 "modesetting" driver was now chosen automatically. I don't know about the update policy for the thing you download with 'portsnap', perhaps it lags the svn repo (which I used), in which case it may be simplest to ignore the vulnerability. But there has also been a g20191024 version, so g20190814 seems *way* behind. Maybe "vm finance" ignored also errors from 'portsnap'... In any case, if you check the https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics page, *and* the https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics/Intel-GPU-Matrix *and* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Graphics_Technology pages that it references, it seems quite clear that the port *is* needed for "Intel UHD Graphics 620". You can find the latter for "Kaby Lake Refresh" and "Whiskey Lake" on the wikipedia page, both of them are later than the "Kabylake" which is the last entry on the Intel-GPU-Matrix page, after half a dozen older ones that require the drm-kmod port - the question is rather whether it works even *with* the port. (Mine seems to be "Kaby Lake", and definitely does *not* work with the i915kms driver in base.) 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[209.85.167.179]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x189sm1949412oig.20.2019.11.28.15.52.14 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 28 Nov 2019 15:52:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-oi1-f179.google.com with SMTP id c16so2424090oic.3 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 15:52:14 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:aca:5785:: with SMTP id l127mr1243573oib.168.1574985133710; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 15:52:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191128103810.9599da0b.freebsd@edvax.de> <770ebb05-9d76-1b54-5bf5-af548368e19e@hedeland.org> <20191128140254.fc3ee735.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 00:52:01 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop To: vm finance Cc: Polytropon , Per Hedeland , Daniele Mazzotti , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47PDvh6mQBz4FHZ X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=g3NGpw2E; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::236) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.40 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[6.3.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.60)[ip: (-8.74), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.25), asn: 15169(-1.94), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS(1.50)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 23:52:17 -0000 Read the instructions provided on screen - it tells you to update port tree or disable vulnerability check and you even have command showed how to do that :-) It seems you did not update the ports tree as instructed so the Intel driver will not work and cannot be built. Did you type all commands as instructed in given order? If "portsnap fetch update" did not update your port tree try "portsnap fetch extract" that would fetch and extract the latest port tree. Then go to drm port (the latest is 4.16.g20191120) and do: make clean make make deinstall make install kldunload drm kldunload i915kms kldload /boot/modules/i915kms.ko startx You may have Intel and nVidia graphics on your machine. First make Intel working. Then you will easily make nVidia working (replace drm and 915kms modules with nvidia.ko). If you still have problems with both Intel and nVidia drivers get the default framebuffer video driver that is slow but works: pkg install xf86-video-scfb If that does not work for you then you are making something wrong with all good sufficiently enough information provided from the list, now its your time to do the homework and _understand_ how things work and where _you_ are making the mistake :-) Have fun :-) On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 6:13 PM vm finance wrote: > > Thanks Tomasz, > > Well, make at step #4 gave an error > > pkg install Xorg hal dbus > portsnap fetch update > cd /usr/ports/graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod/ > make <==== error here > > Pls see the attached screen shot... > > Many thanks! > > > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 8:34 PM Tomasz CEDRO wrote: >> >> Do this as root: >> >> pkg install Xorg hal dbus >> portsnap fetch update >> cd /usr/ports/graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod/ >> make >> make deinstall >> make install >> kldunload drm >> kldunload i915kms >> kldload /boot/modules/drm.ko >> kldload /boot/modules/i915kms.ko >> startx >> >> You can also generate Xorg configuration with: >> Xorg -configure >> cp /root/xorg.config.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf >> startx >> >> Note that you have to compile the DRM kernel driver on your machine, >> also you need to load /boot/modules/drm.ko and >> /boot/modules/i915kms.ko from that location otherwise you will load >> default drm/i915 drivers that does not work with modern GPU. >> >> If all above works put below line into /etc/rc.conf: >> kld_list="/boot/modules/drm.ko /boot/modules/i915kms.ko" >> >> You may also take a look at https://forums.freebsd.org/ to see if >> people had similar problems and found a working solution. >> >> Have fun :-) >> >> -- >> CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 29 06:37:01 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE891C5870 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 06:37:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@sdf.org) Received: from mx.sdf.org (mx.sdf.org [205.166.94.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47PPth20Z1z4Xvq for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 06:36:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@sdf.org) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:bennett@miku.sdf.org [205.166.94.6]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id xAT6ar51024993 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Fri, 29 Nov 2019 06:36:53 GMT Received: (from bennett@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) id xAT6arrg021990; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 00:36:53 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201911290636.xAT6arrg021990@sdf.org> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 00:36:53 -0600 To: vm.finance2@gmail.com, kappei84@gmail.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.1 on laptop Cc: freebsd@edvax.de, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <30022fe5-800e-0a9a-fff6-8edb0171e153@denninger.net> <5c2c0fe0-93fa-246e-a3ae-05e813e246df@panix.com> <20191128103810.9599da0b.freebsd@edvax.de> <770ebb05-9d76-1b54-5bf5-af548368e19e@hedeland.org> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 6/20/10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47PPth20Z1z4Xvq X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of bennett@sdf.org has no SPF policy when checking 205.166.94.20) smtp.mailfrom=bennett@sdf.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.15 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.96)[-0.964,0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; IP_SCORE(-0.32)[ip: (-1.03), ipnet: 205.166.94.0/24(-0.51), asn: 14361(-0.03), country: US(-0.05)]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sdf.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.963,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[20.94.166.205.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14361, ipnet:205.166.94.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS(1.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 06:37:01 -0000 First off, knock it off, you guys who have been leading "vm finance" down the primrose path for *days*. It is not amusing. ~>:-E vm finance wrote: > Please find error output of startx....and kldstat output as well. vm finance, As I've followed your postings and others' responses, several things have become apparent. For one, you appear not to know the difference between an ordinary port and a metaport. An ordinary port builds and installs software. A metaport installs *nothing* at all, except for an entry in the pkg data base that claims that the metaport is "installed". Metaports have other purposes, e.g., math/octave-forge, which installs nothing, but an attempt to install it gets you a menu from which you can choose which special octave libraries/tools developed at sourceforge out of dozens available in the ports tree you would like to have installed. It then adds those selected from the menu to its own dependency lists, thereby forcing those other ports/packages to be installed. graphics/drm-kmod is a metaport, and it does not install software. It chooses the appropriate drm kernel module's port for your system based upon the version of your system and adds that port to its own dependency list, thus forcing that specific drm kernel module to be built and installed. When you did a "pkg delete drm-kmod", all you did was remove the entry for the metaport from the pkg data base of installed ports/packages. You did not remove any software. The drm.ko module that you had originally installed from pkg was the one built for the 12.0-RELEASE GENERIC kernel. AFAICT from all that you have posted to the list(s) to date, you have never removed or replaced that module. Each time you think you are installing or updating graphics/drm-kmod, all you are doing is installing or updating the pkg data base entry for the metaport. The metaport sees that graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod is already installed, so it finds no further work to do. What you need to do now is something like "portmaster graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod" *or* if you don't have portmaster installed (see ports-mgmt/portmaster), cd /usr/ports/graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod make deinstall && make && make install Either method should rebuild the port based upon your currently installed system and then install it for you. Note that there is *still* no port called drm-fbsd12.1-kmod (nor is there a drm-fbsd11.3-kmod), so drm-fbsd12.0-kmod is indeed the one you need, but it must be built for the system it runs on. > > Thanks everyone for your support and help! Please continue reading, and also please stop top-posting. It is quite rude, and my usual treatment of top-posted text appearing below the signature block is simply to delete it because the previous poster to whom I am replying obviously considered it irrelevant. In this case I am making an exception due to the seemingly egregious treatment you've gotten on this list. > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 6:16 PM Daniele Mazzotti wrote: > > > Can you grep for Kms in the boot modules? Also as suggested in the link > > sent by Per is your user part of the video group? If not please just add > > it. When you compiled the drm-kms port have you noticed any error? > > > > Il gio 28 nov 2019, 13:08 vm finance ha scritto: > > > >> I don't see /boot/modules/i915kms.ko under /boot/modules > >> However there are several other present: > >> i915_bxt_* > >> i915_cnl* > >> i915_kbl*... > >> > >> How do I get i915kms.ko? > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 5:01 PM Per Hedeland wrote: > >> > >> > On 2019-11-28 11:03, vm finance wrote: > >> > > Hi, > >> > > > >> > > Its Intel's "UHD Graphics 620". I don't see it installed/loaded under > >> > > "kldstat". > >> > > > >> > > Do you think steps mentioned in > >> > > http://www.srobb.net/freebsdintel.html > >> > > > >> > > would suffice to get around the issue I have? > >> > > If not, could u please suggest next steps. > >> > > > >> > > Pls let me know. Thanks so much! > >> > > >> > Sigh, after all the discussion and problem / fix reports (mostly on > >> > the freebsd-x11@ list, which I'm adding to Cc) about the "new DRM" > >> > stuff, one would think that there should be some simple-to-follow > >> > *FreeBSD* web page that explained it all and could be pointed to if > >> > not immediately found. > >> > > >> > There is https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics, which IMHO is neither > >> > simple to find nor to follow, and which still has the broken-with-12.1 > >> > "pkg install drm-kmod" advice. I think it is sad, since there's a lot > >> > of great work that has gone into this - personally I have a laptop > >> > that wouldn't have had *any* graphics (on FreeBSD) without it, and I > >> > know I'm not alone in that. The reason for the above is one of those artifacts of cute and expedient ideas with poorly thought out consequences that become clearly visible in hindsight. As the various drm kernel module versions for different FreeBSD versions were being turned into ports, there were large numbers of bugs reported in bugzilla and on the -x11@ mailing list. Those early ports did not have names reflecting the OS versions to which they were applicable, and in some cases more than one choice was available for a particular OS version. When the graphics team eventually considered them ready for general use, the names were changed to drm-{legacy,fbsd1{1.2,2.0},current,devel}-kmod. The drm-kmod metaport selects *only* either drm-fbsd11.2-kmod or drm-fbsd12.0-kmod for its dependency list. People choosing any of the other versions are expected to understand what they are doing already and know enough to install their desired version directly with no metaport involved. The problem appears when someone who has not been following developments on the -x11@ list wants to install a drm driver, follows some instruction to "install" drm-kmod, and does *not* understand what that really means, which implies that user will not understand what has gone wrong when he tries to "update/upgrade" drm-kmod (i.e., precisely nothing). Developers keep track of what is going on from the cutting edge to the legacy support. Ordinary users rarely do. The metaport, on balance, was not a good idea. Instead, the graphics team should have gotten its port names straightened out and then written good instructions regarding which ports to install onto which OS versions and for which graphics hardware. The metaport is useful only once per combination of user, hardware, and OS version. Beyond that point, it should be ignored or removed. The same information could better have been supplied in the FreeBSD Handbook and each drm port's pkg-descr file. > >> > > >> > Anyway, enough ranting - if you look at the "Intel Integrated Graphics > >> > (aka HD Graphics)" section on the above page, and specifically the > >> > "Example Configuration For Post Broadwell System", and *skip* the bad > >> > pkg advice, you'll find that the next step is to add > >> > > >> > kld_list="/boot/modules/i915kms.ko" > >> > > >> > to rc.conf - and actually the "post-install package message" will have > >> > told you so, but yeah, who reads those things... [snort] Only those who care, I imagine. :-) > >> > > >> > The problem (not explained anywhere that I can find right now) is that > >> > after building and installing the drm-kmod port (or package), you have > >> > *two* drivers called i915kms installed. One is part of the base > >> > system, /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko - this is the one that doesn't work > >> > for you (or me), and gets loaded if you do "kldload i915kms". The Yeah, don't do that. It may load the wrong one. It may also not work if one by the same name has already been loaded. > >> > other is from the port that you installed, and it's the above > >> > /boot/modules/i915kms.ko - you must ensure that this is the one that > >> > is loaded. > >> > > >> > The above line makes sure that this happens at reboot (loading via > >> > boot/loader.conf has been reported to *not* work in at least *some* > >> > cases, and there's no advantage over loading via /etc/rc.conf), but > >> > you can also do it manually for testing, by using the full path with > >> > "kldload": > >> > > >> > kldload /boot/modules/i915kms.ko > >> > Right, but check first to be sure that one is not already loaded and in use. > >> > Read and follow also the subsequent steps in the example, as well as > >> > the "Note:" at the end of the section. If your card is actually > >> > supported (and frankly I'm not sure how to figure that out in any > >> > other way than trying it), you should be fine at that point. > >> > > >> > --Per Hedeland > >> > One last thing I should point out is that "vm finance" posted a list of his already loaded kernel modules. Polytropon then made some annotations to the list, happily proclaiming that the desired drm module was already loaded, the which statement was false. The drm2.ko module he highlit was the one from /boot/kernel/, not the drm.ko installed by the drm-fbsd12.0-kmod port into /boot/modules/. Scott Bennett, Comm. 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On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 8:17 AM deng daya wrote: > Dear all > > After upgrade all vulnerability from pkg audit -F > I got error this error > > php -v > php: Command not found. > > perl -v > perl: Command not found. > > even after I deinstall and reinstall php and perl > > I use 11.2-RELEASE-p5 > > how to fix this? > > > Thank you > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Michael Schuster http://recursiveramblings.wordpress.com/ recursion, n: see 'recursion' From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 29 07:54:55 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1D11C7909 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 07:54:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deng.dayat@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi1-x22b.google.com (mail-oi1-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::22b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47PRcZ51b1z4cc3 for ; 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Pada tanggal Jum, 29 Nov 2019 pukul 14.19 Michael Schuster < michaelsprivate@gmail.com> menulis: > what does your PATH (or path, if you're using [t]csh) look like? > > On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 8:17 AM deng daya wrote: > >> Dear all >> >> After upgrade all vulnerability from pkg audit -F >> I got error this error >> >> php -v >> php: Command not found. >> >> perl -v >> perl: Command not found. >> >> even after I deinstall and reinstall php and perl >> >> I use 11.2-RELEASE-p5 >> >> how to fix this? >> >> >> Thank you >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > -- > Michael Schuster > http://recursiveramblings.wordpress.com/ > recursion, n: see 'recursion' > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 29 13:34:44 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8211B09DE for ; 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MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS(1.50)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 13:34:45 -0000 On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 00:36:53 -0600, Scott Bennett wrote: > First off, knock it off, you guys who have been leading "vm finance" down > the primrose path for *days*. It is not amusing. ~>:-E > > vm finance wrote: > > > Please find error output of startx....and kldstat output as well. > > vm finance, > As I've followed your postings and others' responses, several things have > become apparent. For one, you appear not to know the difference between an > ordinary port and a metaport. An ordinary port builds and installs software. > A metaport installs *nothing* at all, except for an entry in the pkg data base > that claims that the metaport is "installed". Metaports have other purposes, > e.g., math/octave-forge, which installs nothing, but an attempt to install it > gets you a menu from which you can choose which special octave libraries/tools > developed at sourceforge out of dozens available in the ports tree you would > like to have installed. It then adds those selected from the menu to its own > dependency lists, thereby forcing those other ports/packages to be installed. > graphics/drm-kmod is a metaport, and it does not install software. It > chooses the appropriate drm kernel module's port for your system based upon > the version of your system and adds that port to its own dependency list, thus > forcing that specific drm kernel module to be built and installed. I think you're not fully correct here - except your description of what a metaport is. Allow me to explain: The screenshot presented shows the bottom part of something that seems to be a typical "make config" screen. So probably the correct "future content" of the drm metaport has been selected, it just stopped building due to a security issue. Instructions on how to override it were presented, but probably not recognized as such. The core problem still seemed to be that the ports tree hasn't been updated as required (command "portsnap fetch extract" was not entered). > When you did a "pkg delete drm-kmod", all you did was remove the entry > for the metaport from the pkg data base of installed ports/packages. You did > not remove any software. The drm.ko module that you had originally installed > from pkg was the one built for the 12.0-RELEASE GENERIC kernel. AFAICT from > all that you have posted to the list(s) to date, you have never removed or > replaced that module. Yes, it looks like that. The problem the described method should have solved did not exist, i. e., the "wrong ABI lockup module" was never installed, so there was no need to remove it. However, the step of installing the up-to-date module could have worked if the ports tree was current. > Each time you think you are installing or updating > graphics/drm-kmod, all you are doing is installing or updating the pkg data > base entry for the metaport. The metaport sees that graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod > is already installed, so it finds no further work to do. What you need to do > now is something like "portmaster graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod" *or* if you don't > have portmaster installed (see ports-mgmt/portmaster), That requires portmaster to be installed. I think the "make deinstall" in the ports directory as the same effect, and can be achieved with on-board means. However, the re-installation should take place with the _current_ ports tree. > Either method should rebuild the port based upon your currently installed > system and then install it for you. Note that there is *still* no port called > drm-fbsd12.1-kmod (nor is there a drm-fbsd11.3-kmod), so drm-fbsd12.0-kmod is > indeed the one you need, but it must be built for the system it runs on. Correct, and thanks for explicit clarification. The _name_ of the port is misleading in this case, and it might be confusing for new users who assume a ports tree is somehow depending on the OS version (like one tree for 12.0, one for 12.1, which is _not_ the case). > Please continue reading, and also please stop top-posting. It is quite > rude, and my usual treatment of top-posted text appearing below the signature > block is simply to delete it because the previous poster to whom I am replying > obviously considered it irrelevant. In this case I am making an exception due > to the seemingly egregious treatment you've gotten on this list. A friendly reminder: A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? http://www.idallen.com/topposting.html A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? Top-posting also degrades the value of the mailing list archive as a source of information. > The reason for the above is one of those artifacts of cute and expedient > ideas with poorly thought out consequences that become clearly visible in > hindsight. As the various drm kernel module versions for different FreeBSD > versions were being turned into ports, there were large numbers of bugs reported > in bugzilla and on the -x11@ mailing list. Those early ports did not have names > reflecting the OS versions to which they were applicable, and in some cases more > than one choice was available for a particular OS version. When the graphics > team eventually considered them ready for general use, the names were changed > to drm-{legacy,fbsd1{1.2,2.0},current,devel}-kmod. The drm-kmod metaport selects > *only* either drm-fbsd11.2-kmod or drm-fbsd12.0-kmod for its dependency list. > People choosing any of the other versions are expected to understand what they > are doing already and know enough to install their desired version directly with > no metaport involved. Current messages indicate that the DRM components will be removed from the OS entirely, and replaced by appropriate ports that can be installed if needed: drmn0: ======================================================= drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg drmn0: ======================================================= drmn0: Deprecated code (to be removed in FreeBSD 13): drm2 drivers drmn0: ======================================================= drmn0: This code is obsolete abandonware. Install the graphics/drm-legacy-kmod pkg drmn0: ======================================================= drmn0: Deprecated code (to be removed in FreeBSD 13): drm2 drivers drmn0: on vgapci0 That is a message coming from the kernel module of FreeBSD 12.0-p7; the machine is due for update, but it's too scary to think about that in the current context, so I follow the "never touch a running system" method for a while. ;-) As you can see, the message is repeated two times: probably once for the i915kms module, once for the drm2 module (dependency). > One last thing I should point out is that "vm finance" posted a list of > his already loaded kernel modules. Polytropon then made some annotations to > the list, happily proclaiming that the desired drm module was already loaded, > the which statement was false. The drm2.ko module he highlit was the one > from /boot/kernel/, not the drm.ko installed by the drm-fbsd12.0-kmod port > into /boot/modules/. Yes, I thought about this too late - because it was not fully clear to me if this was the installed one (which wasn't installed at all, as it seems), or the one supplied by the OS. The distinction is easy to do if you use "kldstat -v" and examine the paths for the modules. I think this should have been clear by now. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 29 17:35:34 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6891B6A58 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 17:35:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "holgerdanske.com", Issuer "holgerdanske.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47PhVY0TJ7z47kp for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 17:35:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from 99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:TLSv1.2:Kx=ECDH:Au=RSA:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 09:35:27 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: David Christensen Subject: ezjail Starting jails timeout and WARNING: Per-jail configuration via jail_* variables is obsolete... Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 09:35:26 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47PhVY0TJ7z47kp X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com has no SPF policy when checking 184.105.128.27) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.66 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.57)[ipnet: 184.104.0.0/15(0.73), asn: 6939(-3.51), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[holgerdanske.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[27.128.105.184.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:184.104.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 17:35:35 -0000 freebsd-questions: I have a FreeBSD system: root@soho2:~ # freebsd-version ; uname -a 11.3-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD soho2.tracy.holgerdanske.com 11.3-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 11.3-RELEASE-p5 #0: Tue Nov 12 08:59:04 UTC 2019 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 I am attempting to use ezjail: http://erdgeist.org/arts/software/ezjail/ I am also referring to some additional resources: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/jails.html man 8 jail man 7 ezjail man 8 ezjail-admin man 5 ezjail.conf https://nostarch.com/absfreebsd3 I limited listening ports on the host: # sockstat -46l USER COMMAND PID FD PROTO LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRESS root sendmail 751 3 tcp4 127.0.0.1:25 *:* root sshd 744 3 tcp4 192.168.5.11:22 *:* _ntp ntpd 713 6 udp4 192.168.5.11:123 *:* root syslogd 544 6 udp4 192.168.5.11:514 *:* I configured the system to add aliases to the primary network interface at boot: # grep alias /etc/rc.conf ifconfig_igb0_alias0="inet 192.168.5.100 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_igb0_alias1="inet 192.168.5.101 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_igb0_alias2="inet 192.168.5.102 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_igb0_alias3="inet 192.168.5.103 netmask 255.255.255.255" I configured the system to clone the loopback interface at boot: # grep cloned_interfaces /etc/rc.conf cloned_interfaces="lo1" I rebooted. I installed ezjail from ports: # cd /usr/ports/sysutils/ezjail # make install clean I configured ezjail: # egrep '^[^#].' /usr/local/etc/ezjail.conf ezjail_ftphost=http://ftp.freebsd.org ezjail_use_zfs="YES" ezjail_use_zfs_for_jails="YES" ezjail_jailzfs="soho2_zroot/ezjail" I enabled ezjail at boot: # grep ezjail /etc/rc.conf ezjail_enable="YES" I started the ezjail service: # service ezjail start ezjail I performed the ezjail initial setup: # ezjail-admin install -p I created a test jail: # ezjail-admin create testjail 'lo1|127.0.1.1,igb0|192.168.5.100' # cat /usr/local/etc/ezjail/testjail # To specify the start up order of your ezjails, use these lines to # create a Jail dependency tree. See rcorder(8) for more details. # # PROVIDE: standard_ezjail # REQUIRE: # BEFORE: # export jail_testjail_hostname="testjail" export jail_testjail_ip="lo1|127.0.1.1,igb0|192.168.5.100" export jail_testjail_rootdir="/usr/jails/testjail" export jail_testjail_exec_start="/bin/sh /etc/rc" export jail_testjail_exec_stop="" export jail_testjail_mount_enable="YES" export jail_testjail_devfs_enable="YES" export jail_testjail_devfs_ruleset="devfsrules_jail" export jail_testjail_procfs_enable="YES" export jail_testjail_fdescfs_enable="YES" export jail_testjail_image="" export jail_testjail_imagetype="zfs" export jail_testjail_attachparams="" export jail_testjail_attachblocking="" export jail_testjail_forceblocking="" export jail_testjail_zfs_datasets="" export jail_testjail_cpuset="" export jail_testjail_fib="" export jail_testjail_parentzfs="soho2_zroot/ezjail" export jail_testjail_parameters="allow.raw_sockets=1" export jail_testjail_post_start_script="" export jail_testjail_retention_policy="" I started the jail: # ezjail-admin start testjail Starting jails: testjail. /etc/rc.d/jail: WARNING: Per-jail configuration via jail_* variables is obsolete. Please consider migrating to /etc/jail.conf. Any ideas about the warning? I started a console in the jail, looked around, set the root password, set timezone, create /etc/resolv.conf, created /etc/rc.conf, etc., and logged out: # ezjail-admin console testjail FreeBSD 11.3-RELEASE-p5 (GENERIC) #0: Tue Nov 12 08:59:04 UTC 2019 Welcome to FreeBSD! I stopped the jail: # ezjail-admin stop testjail Stopping jails: testjail. When I reboot, I see: ezjaileval: jail_testjail-20191128-120605_exec_start=-20191128-120605_exec_start: not found Warning: root directory -20191128-120605_rootdir of testjail-20181128-120605 does not exist. Starting jails: Boot hangs after "Starting jails", then times out after 1+ minute: testjail. /etc/rc.d/jail: WARNING: Per-jail configuration via jail_* variables is obsolete. Please consider migrating to /etc/jail.conf. Any ideas why the system hangs at boot when starting jails? TIA, David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 29 17:42:11 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5801B6E64 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 17:42:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "xray.he.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47PhfC0mKvz489W for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 17:42:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from 99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:TLSv1.2:Kx=ECDH:Au=RSA:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 09:42:08 -0800 Subject: Re: ezjail Starting jails timeout and WARNING: Per-jail configuration via jail_* variables is obsolete... To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: David Christensen Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 09:42:07 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47PhfC0mKvz489W X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com has no SPF policy when checking 184.105.128.27) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.67 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.57)[ipnet: 184.104.0.0/15(0.73), asn: 6939(-3.51), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[holgerdanske.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[27.128.105.184.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:184.104.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 17:42:11 -0000 On 11/29/19 9:35 AM, David Christensen wrote: >     # cat /usr/local/etc/ezjail/testjail >     export jail_testjail_parameters="allow.raw_sockets=1" I edited the value of jail_testjail_parameters. David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 29 21:39:29 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224A71BC942 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 21:39:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Pnvz6zcNz4Ktn for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 21:39:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([188.102.111.227]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N1Oo7-1hdf7o2ShX-012p8H for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 22:39:23 +0100 Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 22:39:20 +0100 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Installation image size for CD exceeds media size Message-Id: <20191129223920.3c24fabf.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:zqB0D0L1rpDt/tM6Uq3UqS1TB/oY+K9DWNUOsWuKH3qrgQxFVas UAlBuBL7fn0qZGuCQrsrdAOPdV6nTjaWvLTFHrny3dJ5w+aYxwZ2d0fYam+9DJy3KVCAufL 9sFllT8zQ4T3qjIZh1krStxGiMvywt+9Q6Nx8E0m0115D9ZNz8szib5I9T6v5XQ1Wxq9mHR hXyOHK8iCbKbgckIJxcrQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:/a3T3v0muME=:jj+GdNyOdqa8WPooWHicxA l38XsICB/4qbIQqYOa/IXk6rHKuKBhcdnK346rGLFgV3qSkOOu36vjYloBYxZFPZhIk+Jmwib F3Z4QoPniK0SmqCDww1MGOOgxs1gXl9Nqg6o2fM1G+CDbG/S40BpyKlUZT2SJ8wnndXkECZXL /xLIVJvUMrZpXgdG8IIhu0I9mgi/f4Q4TaYkxXarvSP3S52tvkk/kISNIakALpbaJ68ro3sqI R8+KHMB0DcEB6yeTn9+Ndnt7RTvOSNBOXwlxaGHcB8dtdDGs4B7Z4SVBSqYIjyHk9hwB0JBf2 6PHPdX2de/jape5frzgYKzlUdKo09Gv9YIv6RzQ/7f3gHwnp6/nkAOhenHDq3sqA6x4f//MYH mg1WqEoOjqwaoVZ0DJ4C2FZ0oDvn1jsxLCVD7G4iIDP/GHWKk8h/QS718DXSr1Gp7tpBZWJzC STfwN0iQD7mhF4RPSBYgZ4v/FrfvL9/sJgyhdmkYkh9W37f2ZvPIRUr6Q0A1HosBQBgBadWRo hO3dxplhPqQLnGsi4n+JDD0/CbxfVIiKlYAuNax6VMKz/TTHxB6Nva/gbGW0FXXlk75/jvnjr uwPH/0QMaaITmj4cQcMLR/T1PT0e1iPsPmoaCQ1rkF4Xejsl/avoY4fH5ekslw0AGgqw1HCBT 4WnxFUkKuG8xkoXwyVxPBDtN7RGJUtk/zk/kX2ak6LuEpOzsHUr8+CGlRzmIL84DnKBrVInaP LQyolRvVBNCqmY9r+XFb2QO5so/nb1MFtyhNOdlLOQvyG8t21gSCzmkLGM2vp/bbZynk25HF/ vBWQq7krDulERTTp4WPMtnT2uabjwV5Cn6Yr9eRe+yEWz+KplPXuqAKLJqOgZ5pGFrq/i371x 4jTEjj3ZC4wuRco20g/Q== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Pnvz6zcNz4Ktn X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.187) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.49 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[227.111.102.188.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.86)[0.857,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.94)[0.937,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.29)[ip: (0.40), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.22), asn: 8560(2.29), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 21:39:29 -0000 On the path of building a "new" FreeBSD experimenting system, I planned to use the installation image for optical media, as the system in question doesn't seem to boot from USB. No big deal. I just recognized that the CD image for FreeBSD 12.1 (amd64) has a size that makes it impossible to be used with a CD medium. Why is it 910008320 Bytes (ca. 867 MB), while a CD can hold 650 MB or 700 MB? In the past (yes, I can remember), there were several CD images, usually "disc1" for system and ports installation, "disc2" containing a live system, and "disc3" and "disc4" with packaged software. With such a set, you could install a FreeBSD system entirely offline. Back on topic: With cdrecord, I tried -ignsize and -overburn, -sao and -raw, but nothing seems to work - well, not totally unexpected. I'm going to download the DVD image now, which fits a typical DVD medium, and use that instead, as the optical unit can read both CDs and DVDs... My question still remains: Why is there no "disc1" image file that fits on a CD? Or what is that image supposed to be used for? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 29 21:49:23 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F337F1BD350 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 21:49:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@dismail.de) Received: from mx1.dismail.de (mx1.dismail.de [78.46.223.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.dismail.de", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47Pp7Q2v3zz4LT9 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 21:49:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@dismail.de) Received: from dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 876a2dc7 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 22:49:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp1.dismail.de (10.240.26.11 [10.240.26.11]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 570dfe9b for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 22:49:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp1.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id cb351519 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 22:49:19 +0100 (CET) Received: by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id a9f358b4 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO) for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 22:49:18 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 16:49:01 -0500 From: To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: loca;_unbound logfile Message-ID: <20191129164901.6d367802@dismail.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47Pp7Q2v3zz4LT9 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.30 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[dismail.de:s=20190914]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.46.223.134]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[dismail.de.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; IP_SCORE(-2.20)[ip: (-9.91), ipnet: 78.46.0.0/15(0.50), asn: 24940(-1.58), country: DE(-0.01)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[dismail.de:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[dismail.de,reject]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[134.223.46.78.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:78.46.0.0/15, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 21:49:24 -0000 I am using local_unbound from base OS for DNS over TLS and it works. I try to setup logfile. In unbound.conf I have: # This file was generated by local-unbound-setup. # Modifications will be overwritten. server: username: unbound directory: /var/unbound chroot: /var/unbound pidfile: /var/run/local_unbound.pid auto-trust-anchor-file: /var/unbound/root.key logfile: /var/log/unbound.log log-queries: yes include: /var/unbound/forward.conf include: /var/unbound/lan-zones.conf include: /var/unbound/control.conf include: /var/unbound/conf.d/*.conf I added just two lines related to log. And local-unbound-checkconf shows that are no errors in /var/unbound/unbound.conf but directory is empty Thank you. --=20 =E2=80=9Cgood people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws=E2=80=9D=20 Plato From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 29 22:14:39 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2621BDF42 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 22:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47PphZ5lNMz4N4H for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 22:14:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([188.102.111.227]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MVaQW-1iBcgX4B9g-00Rd7r; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 23:14:34 +0100 Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 23:14:30 +0100 From: Polytropon To: starikarp@dismail.de Cc: ajtiM via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: loca;_unbound logfile Message-Id: <20191129231430.234ce775.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20191129164901.6d367802@dismail.de> References: <20191129164901.6d367802@dismail.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:GBZbYGpM/bTm/qqI+6LR06dgTd5iSO+V04MHrWOe5HrGuY8CH8m d0SBOQBqw/SPE8t37clciH4OANKBhY7afZD1PFuFxWYMIwWXRix/3bZuSqZfhboG2q7WeBJ ViDx6iN/W8EQdMq4s0yhdPD/zLs5oOXyE2aCzVSRiLzvUO5prIFBN3/776HNh98iEMM0ngO HBD05t2Fy0IM3jScGzPBg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:nVgJoMnHIWU=:FbmovqqPQC7nrRSTaYJlLQ ra4esNa0jcVm2ITrDRjgsKOWMdSzeuBW/u9sHPoSoXGP19qPlojC4HyhXMAqMyH2i5psBpHOO 4KlMIRpIh30GR+7MuQQArQ2b9sA3UxvUs9j2xRrccIBOY/9CAIbhwhSoiO4ZlkruueYYx9sMH AfiBtiCXXKyXf34I0RYPMRtGKFtdc8dp0cf9DTezcF0UnhZmBRyr97cr+Nx8ief5xE6nFBmKO 0/hKHSl/kafRODSgr0zy8MMsygBajkznEHx1Z/OqQKEmxo9zhtbFER6SVHLzNIKc0lmyIhYEA 7h/DGnES7YDRLR/1j8rv7ukz62Ikpn0NBdKApYYHkavthIqiDuf4Wb9z3075sN9fyYK8jIHVc nl9Az6Y/UyyesiAyFKOb1LE5Vh0qkitYSvEmUSxpzY2oSdquVtBVdBuz368BaDnhGOz1H2Eqr tifO8eAecmtgOYWq+h9wSnCiKTs7psoRaDETCPaVA+l34eKD7bekpKhjsTjcnm6sbGbDKEu3t +ehWOog8FuKku0I/k1XTSady4WnAOR81Opv9h7SHwUdgMeJitBZ+pRKZDl+GfTOWXVetwwQUM eI61mgA0tTW0XENmIKYA5dggvHbbrvm2SLsjD/YwGssA/nl6Do4c29CvJ+MkkVf3szOymEHc8 +2uy7K20YCLCwZvOTsfvzewqFZIzN5TpaRulgUFz/G8nddsQY6RsXW4qMeVQSCmxs/AkOsKDq Fkf/ArV9u/UTT53oM9OySnM/B1AfQbu7L3qITucl/r7SIWWR37Jwrgn+wARjBExxRN0S6Aj4x FjL63zNA8G1Hq9yrOtzn0dz2Qm0rPijqjSUPASZyt3U1UogFQMAn6Ff/uBPTP08AE/CDbE15p Zbs9SAO3zYV4cjjBjv2w== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47PphZ5lNMz4N4H X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.131) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.86 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[227.111.102.188.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.96)[0.960,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.988,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[131.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.51)[ip: (1.49), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.22), asn: 8560(2.29), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 22:14:40 -0000 On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 16:49:01 -0500, ajtiM via freebsd-questions wrote: > I am using local_unbound from base OS for DNS over TLS and it works. I > try to setup logfile. In > unbound.conf I have: > > # This file was generated by local-unbound-setup. > # Modifications will be overwritten. > server: > username: unbound > directory: /var/unbound > chroot: /var/unbound > pidfile: /var/run/local_unbound.pid > auto-trust-anchor-file: /var/unbound/root.key > logfile: /var/log/unbound.log > log-queries: yes > include: /var/unbound/forward.conf > include: /var/unbound/lan-zones.conf > include: /var/unbound/control.conf > include: /var/unbound/conf.d/*.conf > > I added just two lines related to log. > And local-unbound-checkconf shows that are no errors in > /var/unbound/unbound.conf but directory is empty Try creating the logfile manually: # touch /var/log/unbound.log Do you get any error messages on system startup or in the /var/log/messages related to unbound? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[209.85.167.177]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g8sm2767608otq.19.2019.11.30.06.47.05 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 30 Nov 2019 06:47:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-oi1-f177.google.com with SMTP id 6so3275190oix.7 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 06:47:05 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:aca:5785:: with SMTP id l127mr4815940oib.168.1575125225112; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 06:47:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191129223920.3c24fabf.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20191129223920.3c24fabf.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 15:46:53 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Installation image size for CD exceeds media size To: Polytropon Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47QDjm1Syvz48FH X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=ejUM6h6Z; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::32c) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.67 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[c.2.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.37)[ip: (-7.60), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.25), asn: 15169(-1.94), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 14:47:09 -0000 On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 10:39 PM Polytropon wrote: > Or what is that image supposed to be used for? I just guess this may be used on SMALL / MINI DVD+RW disks used in camcorders, or small "business card" disk, they have around 1.25..1.5GB capacity, I used them quite often because they are pretty reliable (can live several years when carried everyday in a backpack), smaller in size, rewritable (can use up-to-date contents when it shows up on the same disk), and twice capacity of CeDeROM disks.. thus the name "disc1" not "cdrom1" I guess..? FreeBSD-12.1-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso 910008320 I can recommend those that still live for years: Verbatim 8CM 4x DVD+RW HardCoat 1.4GB 30MIN capacity TDK DVD-RW ScratchProof 30MIN capacity 2x record speed also I had Sony disk like this but I cannot find it at the moment :-) Get a 5 pack of these for 10EUR and you will be happy with the purchase :-) ps/2: I have just found out that there are BluRay DoubleSided disks with 50GB capacity and my burner actually supports them =) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 30 16:28:05 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3FD1B0074 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 16:28:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@chthonixia.net) Received: from mail1.g14.pair.com (mail1.g14.pair.com [66.39.4.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47QGyD69lvz4CdF for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 16:28:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@chthonixia.net) Received: from mail1.g14.pair.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.g14.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7AE2A6D6F for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 11:28:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from chthonixia.chthonixia.net (cpe-74-64-59-0.nyc.res.rr.com [74.64.59.0]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail1.g14.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AA677A6D6E for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 11:28:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 11:27:57 -0500 From: "Joe A." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Updating from 11.2 to 11.3 on a headless machine Message-ID: <20191130162757.GA9364@chthonixia.chthonixia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.2 (2019-09-21) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47QGyD69lvz4CdF X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@chthonixia.net has no SPF policy when checking 66.39.4.16) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@chthonixia.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.40 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[0.59.64.74.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.989,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[chthonixia.net]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.975,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[16.4.39.66.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7859, ipnet:66.39.0.0/17, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.24)[asn: 7859(-1.15), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 16:28:05 -0000 Hello... I have a machine that I moved into a headless with no keyboard role and now I wish to update it to 11.3 from 11.2-RELEASE-p9. Since it's headless, and it seems that FreeBSD update works on a headless machine, I plan to use it as outlined in the handbook in chapter 23.2. First question: am I correct in understanding that FreeBSD update will work on an headless machine, as distinct from svnlite and a build from source? In section 23.2.3. Performing Major and Minor Version Upgrades, this appears: freebsd-update -r 9.1-RELEASE upgrade. On my desktop with a monitor and keyboard, I use snvlite; so when moving between major and minor upgrades, I use svnlite switch. Second question: is it the case that 'freebsd-update -r' is a substitute for 'snvlite switch'? Thanks for any replies, and best regards, Joe From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 30 19:08:55 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE741B3D50 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 19:08:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47QLWn6RCPz4Lxh for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 19:08:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.2.248]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mspu2-1hmSMZ49yy-00tA3f; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 20:08:48 +0100 Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 20:08:46 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Installation image size for CD exceeds media size Message-Id: <20191130200846.37fea47a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20191129223920.3c24fabf.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Zxw5Z/vp/D8Naibme6SD1BcSAQq7s+D7UYhy7cgiU/pHvQP1LHo 7biV2bII9XBOHbyWoIbAZ9w4HZXzAKle/q+qCXKDovwh+KMfoXCOOy+MTPsBI46LaodbLm8 sP2bpCLDcwueX16Fl9QG/0QXqQZZSIQtu5g7CR4EacAMhwqiq6TDfQduOVDVbZi3qn/t/3O SzrYxn+NwDOv8Lcf5+NkQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:w+SDOycn+bU=:K4+mnj+FVIJoelixs62Tpj aINCqDWVplgG0fGEkELjo845Vh0a+i/8xd8Yqb6lpQvKxGAud0B9uUCCWoUqrYawjet5rBdTA ZC59atQKvNfSelkGl1bHZnq8VItJ9DvOPhrevLYXtKzEb0zlbXdyDRbhbRymcPoAsDApe8o9F W3AQXCBVfWC9F+b8dL5WjID826a8/wTbZQbzevo/bT/RWHTdzWxcIDAIARLWo7hZE4taV3fSC WS/NHhNp4JKqGPHn4HDwmvAks1mxsRGCVZO6MQDJWzUyzvoiu2Cb9XiIUmBJRdQyPHOzLJps4 Y62INfc2R5l4ZrPCD8UeGwCU30PrShiRE/KNX3gnQVl3d5045p0nEnY4kk3mRYkx0USRsX2EW K/ZbO8IB5R4hzTBxwf6imf3OmTQx/PFdFee8pc/CXuSd1Ink8OeKbsp5LI3IJXP2n2em48eOk jng0P6zRwZuG6sqrvwIZMykPX0oNi5ad2FQ5NUY+pXsyEy4czMkwpsX/6PZy3bnyO6fsYxFv/ z+6fxQNSOgsk5hK03wI+tvWoMWafp8bfwCxGuRaLxPz8BAEAhzH/n5/9pyetfDU+amj2TErs7 rG4YW6eVIp+5gJXT3Ks7Jq1lAp+02cxvfiXP3BvIzpELvAcf2saSc9WKt3zToxpbtfG6vg7Ge oiBCaMKB0pz249ANW9ZqqTEeCm02++rn7RAwtrHOoQ9XqfsjQMbVWCQJ06GFetoo0EHl8o9Ou LbZKJSjOe6+rSp675ee0LpffCxFCvwu3e3cMoERaja918b073Lb0tC1OK0UemZdL/0phmVPEa gaqGyjYsp3XKtOopJL4sV9xjw7U8Fc2XYqQ2HMjaNZPZ5AXHi9elQW+qhj37DBK65BFGWFTOF u3uxC3HxzxGt1Vi2qM1A== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47QLWn6RCPz4Lxh X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.17.10) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.04 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[248.2.222.94.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.09)[0.095,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.51)[0.512,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[10.17.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.04)[ip: (-0.92), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.18), asn: 8560(2.29), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 19:08:55 -0000 On Sat, 30 Nov 2019 15:46:53 +0100, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 10:39 PM Polytropon wrote: > > Or what is that image supposed to be used for? > > I just guess this may be used on SMALL / MINI DVD+RW disks used in > camcorders, or small "business card" disk, they have around > 1.25..1.5GB capacity, I used them quite often because they are pretty > reliable (can live several years when carried everyday in a backpack), > smaller in size, rewritable (can use up-to-date contents when it shows > up on the same disk), and twice capacity of CeDeROM disks.. Never saw those in reality here... :-) > thus the > name "disc1" not "cdrom1" I guess..? No, historically, they were named "discN" for CDs, "bootonly" for CDs that would only boot, but would not contain lots of packages, and "memstick" for USB media. This of course was when CDs were the typical examples for optical media; "dvdN" was added later when DVDs became widely available. Live system capabilities were moved into the default content, and therefore usable from USB and DVD. For comparison, from historical context: http://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/ISO-IMAGES/9.3/ The CDs - "disc1": FreeBSD-9.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 608919552 FreeBSD-9.3-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso 671152128 Both fit a 650MB / 700MB medium. The DVDs - "dvd1": FreeBSD-9.3-RELEASE-i386-dvd1.iso 1658320896 FreeBSD-9.3-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso 1801652224 And a timeline / "sizeline": FreeBSD-9.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 608919552 FreeBSD-10.1-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 615966720 FreeBSD-10.2-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 645224448 FreeBSD-10.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 647389184 FreeBSD-10.4-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 569620480 FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 601817088 FreeBSD-11.1-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 618297344 FreeBSD-11.1-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 618297344 FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 758073344 FreeBSD-12.1-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 763678720 The trend is the same for amd64 - since 12.0, the images cannot be used with CDs anymore. I simply cannot imagine that this is a problem of the OS getting "too big", but rather too many additional packages on the CD. Wouldn't it be possible to omit some packages to get the size down to ca. 650MB so you can use CDs again, which was possible for decades? I don't have to check for older releases because I _know_ that I recorded them to ordinary CDs when they were released. Well... I went with a DVD installation now, worked as expected. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[130.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 20:02:45 -0000 With a HP Pavilion dm-1 "netbook" laptop I got, I have a problem since I connected a HDMI display: There are now several green pixels on the screen, in areas where the color is nearly black. They also appear in videos and make the "compression squares" visible. Note: Those are _not_ defective pixels on the display. When the system boots up, everything is fine. As soon as the system enters X, color isn't displayed properly as before. The video output on both HDMI and VGA, even at the same time, shows the colors correctly. During searches related to that problem, I once found an image that looked like what I'm seeing, and I read an article, even though regarding a Macbook, that this problem occurs due to internal switching between graphics hardware depending on if the internal screen should be driven or an external one. Sadly, I cannot find any of those again... However, I found this: http://cdn.avsforum.com/3/3e/3e8d725c_vbattach231475.png You can see "green clouds" around the curves, and the colors look slightly distorted. Everything that is "nearly black" now looks green - the _same_ green. The image above shows that problem on something that looks like "Windows 7". In the laptop here, there is an AMD CPU with graphics APU, if my information regarding the device is correct. From "pciconf -lv": vgapci0@pci0:0:1:0: class=0x030000 card=0x1611103c chip=0x98021002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]' device = 'Wrestler [Radeon HD 6310]' class = display subclass = VGA For X, xf86-video-ati and xf86-video-radeon packages are installed. X automatically loads a working driver; from /var/log/Xorg.0.log: [ 25.256] (II) LoadModule: "ati" [ 25.256] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ati_drv.so [ 25.257] (II) Module ati: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 25.257] compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 19.0.1 [ 25.257] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 25.257] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0 [ 25.259] (II) LoadModule: "radeon" [ 25.259] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so [ 25.276] (II) Module radeon: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 25.276] compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 19.0.1 [ 25.276] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 25.276] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0 [...] [ 25.282] (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI/AMD Radeon chipsets: [...] AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics, AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics, [...] [ 25.293] (==) RADEON(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 [ 25.293] (II) RADEON(0): Pixel depth = 24 bits stored in 4 bytes (32 bpp pixmaps) [ 25.293] (==) RADEON(0): Default visual is TrueColor [ 25.293] (==) RADEON(0): RGB weight 888 [ 25.293] (II) RADEON(0): Using 8 bits per RGB (8 bit DAC) [ 25.293] (--) RADEON(0): Chipset: "AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics" (ChipID = 0x9802) [...] [ 26.364] (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS has no monitor section [ 26.364] (II) RADEON(0): Output HDMI-0 has no monitor section [ 26.370] (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 has no monitor section [ 26.370] (WW) RADEON(0): 3 ZaphodHeads crtcs unavailable. Some outputs will stay off. [...] [ 26.381] (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS connected [ 26.381] (II) RADEON(0): Output HDMI-0 disconnected [ 26.381] (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 disconnected [...] When I copied those messages, only the laptop's display was active with a size of 1366x768, which is its exact physical size. When connecting a HDMI or VGA display (I'm using a TV which offers all those inputs), the output is colorful and exact, as it should be. I assume LVDS refers to the laptop's own screen. I also had X create a configuration file. The relevant section is this one: Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "radeon" BusID "PCI:0:1:0" EndSection So there seems to be only _one_ "graphics card", even though there are three outputs (internal, VGA analog, HDMI). What worries me most: The display was _fine_ before connecting a HDMI TV as external monitor! Combing back to what I once read (sorry, no source available, I cannot find it anymore): A suggestion was to use a specific tool (on the Mac) to force one of the two graphic "cards" to make the problem go away. Is this possible with X? If yes, what specific settings need to be applied? Any suggestions what to try? What to search for - maybe this kind of problem has a specific name? I have no idea what I should do, other than abusing this laptop as a poor desktop (external display, keyboard, mouse)... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Markov" To: Polytropon Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: How to force X to use a specific GPU / output Message-Id: <20191130153824.3221ff6da9449dc34727e7c7@aim.com> In-Reply-To: <20191130210239.ff69c8a2.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20191130210239.ff69c8a2.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47QNWD4d33z4TZD X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.10 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[aim.com:s=a2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:74.6.128.0/21]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[aim.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.11)[0.106,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[aim.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[124.132.6.74.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[aim.com,reject]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.29)[0.293,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[aim.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:26101, ipnet:74.6.128.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (3.96), ipnet: 74.6.128.0/21(1.35), asn: 26101(1.08), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 20:38:34 -0000 On Sat, 30 Nov 2019 21:02:39 +0100 Polytropon wrote: > With a HP Pavilion dm-1 "netbook" laptop I got, I have a problem > since I connected a HDMI display: There are now several green > pixels on the screen, in areas where the color is nearly black. > They also appear in videos and make the "compression squares" > visible. > > Note: Those are _not_ defective pixels on the display. > > When the system boots up, everything is fine. As soon as the > system enters X, color isn't displayed properly as before. > The video output on both HDMI and VGA, even at the same time, > shows the colors correctly. > > During searches related to that problem, I once found an image > that looked like what I'm seeing, and I read an article, even > though regarding a Macbook, that this problem occurs due to > internal switching between graphics hardware depending on if > the internal screen should be driven or an external one. Sadly, > I cannot find any of those again... > > However, I found this: > > http://cdn.avsforum.com/3/3e/3e8d725c_vbattach231475.png > > You can see "green clouds" around the curves, and the colors > look slightly distorted. Everything that is "nearly black" now > looks green - the _same_ green. The image above shows that > problem on something that looks like "Windows 7". > > In the laptop here, there is an AMD CPU with graphics APU, if > my information regarding the device is correct. From "pciconf -lv": > > vgapci0@pci0:0:1:0: class=0x030000 > card=0x1611103c chip=0x98021002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]' > device = 'Wrestler [Radeon HD 6310]' > class = display > subclass = VGA > > For X, xf86-video-ati and xf86-video-radeon packages are installed. > X automatically loads a working driver; from /var/log/Xorg.0.log: > > [ 25.256] (II) LoadModule: "ati" > [ 25.256] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ati_drv.so > [ 25.257] (II) Module ati: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > [ 25.257] compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 19.0.1 > [ 25.257] Module class: X.Org Video Driver > [ 25.257] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0 > [ 25.259] (II) LoadModule: "radeon" > [ 25.259] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so > [ 25.276] (II) Module radeon: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > [ 25.276] compiled for 1.18.4, module version = 19.0.1 > [ 25.276] Module class: X.Org Video Driver > [ 25.276] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0 > [...] > [ 25.282] (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI/AMD Radeon chipsets: > [...] > AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics, AMD Radeon HD 6250 Graphics, > [...] > [ 25.293] (==) RADEON(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 > [ 25.293] (II) RADEON(0): Pixel depth = 24 bits stored in 4 bytes (32 bpp pixmaps) > [ 25.293] (==) RADEON(0): Default visual is TrueColor > [ 25.293] (==) RADEON(0): RGB weight 888 > [ 25.293] (II) RADEON(0): Using 8 bits per RGB (8 bit DAC) > [ 25.293] (--) RADEON(0): Chipset: "AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics" (ChipID = 0x9802) > [...] > [ 26.364] (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS has no monitor section > [ 26.364] (II) RADEON(0): Output HDMI-0 has no monitor section > [ 26.370] (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 has no monitor section > [ 26.370] (WW) RADEON(0): 3 ZaphodHeads crtcs unavailable. Some outputs will stay off. > [...] > [ 26.381] (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS connected > [ 26.381] (II) RADEON(0): Output HDMI-0 disconnected > [ 26.381] (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 disconnected > [...] > > When I copied those messages, only the laptop's display was active with > a size of 1366x768, which is its exact physical size. When connecting > a HDMI or VGA display (I'm using a TV which offers all those inputs), > the output is colorful and exact, as it should be. I assume LVDS refers > to the laptop's own screen. > > I also had X create a configuration file. The relevant section > is this one: > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "radeon" > BusID "PCI:0:1:0" > EndSection > > So there seems to be only _one_ "graphics card", even though there > are three outputs (internal, VGA analog, HDMI). > > What worries me most: > > The display was _fine_ before connecting a HDMI TV as external monitor! > > Combing back to what I once read (sorry, no source available, I cannot > find it anymore): A suggestion was to use a specific tool (on the Mac) > to force one of the two graphic "cards" to make the problem go away. > > Is this possible with X? If yes, what specific settings need to be > applied? Any suggestions what to try? What to search for - maybe this > kind of problem has a specific name? > > I have no idea what I should do, other than abusing this laptop as a > poor desktop (external display, keyboard, mouse)... > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I use a little script to select which monitor to use. Is that what you are looking for? #set -x intern=LVDS1 extern=VGA1 if xrandr | grep -q "$extern connected"; then xrandr --output "$intern" --off --output "$extern" --auto # echo "turning on external" else xrandr --output "$extern" --off --output "$intern" --auto # echo "turning on internal" fi -- Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, April 16, 1953 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 30 20:50:09 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605231B7B0D for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 20:50:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta01.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47QNmc0Qzvz4VPK for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 20:50:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local ([70.121.63.82]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id b9gpiJFI6gJPjb9gsihTyq; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 20:50:06 +0000 Subject: Re: Updating from 11.2 to 11.3 on a headless machine To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20191130162757.GA9364@chthonixia.chthonixia.net> From: Paul Schmehl Message-ID: <50ec5426-3206-4e83-7394-eb9d9da0325c@tx.rr.com> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 14:50:03 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.2.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20191130162757.GA9364@chthonixia.chthonixia.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfOOQY4lJO4XOtK1dHLKiPlw81E0/kiC2qk93kH0S4cnTKqAOlNn4rId1zWDpgdBWzGsLPhUmHQQ84McyhSCBGEviKhLSZ5Ef2rmTz7Wf5S+Ug5212PQx 7zCATZfPjAhvoyCUwWJWtSUekrMmYuraIT2DRWH/XvGFGYrk7f14TrOKgQUaAYtGvSstvjY0lXB5SUZa557vY723HaInWMvJ8ic= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47QNmc0Qzvz4VPK X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com designates 107.14.73.229 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.22 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[229.73.14.107.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.14.73.0/24]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[rr.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[82.63.121.70.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[229.73.14.107.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; IP_SCORE(-1.92)[ip: (-5.20), ipnet: 107.14.73.0/24(-2.42), asn: 7843(-1.94), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7843, ipnet:107.14.73.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 20:50:09 -0000 On 11/30/19 10:27 AM, Joe A. wrote: > Hello... > > I have a machine that I moved into a headless with no keyboard > role and now I wish to update it to 11.3 from 11.2-RELEASE-p9. > > Since it's headless, and it seems that FreeBSD update works on > a headless machine, I plan to use it as outlined in the > handbook in chapter 23.2. > > First question: am I correct in understanding that FreeBSD update > will work on an headless machine, as distinct from svnlite and a > build from source? Yes, you are correct. I maintain three servers, and all three are headless. I update them routinely over ssh. The only downside is if the server fails to reboot properly, you have to make a trip to the hosting company site to complete the update. Usually, that does not happen. > In section 23.2.3. Performing Major and Minor Version Upgrades, > this appears: freebsd-update -r 9.1-RELEASE upgrade. On my > desktop with a monitor and keyboard, I use snvlite; so when > moving between major and minor upgrades, I use svnlite switch. > > Second question: is it the case that 'freebsd-update -r' > is a substitute for 'snvlite switch'? I've never used snvlite, so I can't say. But freebsd-update works fine for me. -- Paul Schmehl, Retired My opinions are my own. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." 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George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 30 21:07:40 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684BE1B862F for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 21:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47QP8q1C9Rz4WW4 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 21:07:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.2.248]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MVrXh-1iC6ju0M4L-00Rqg4; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 22:07:31 +0100 Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 22:07:27 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Vlad D. 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Markov wrote: > I use a little script to select which monitor to use. > Is that what you are looking for? > > #set -x > > intern=LVDS1 > extern=VGA1 > > if xrandr | grep -q "$extern connected"; then > xrandr --output "$intern" --off --output "$extern" --auto > # echo "turning on external" > else > xrandr --output "$extern" --off --output "$intern" --auto > # echo "turning on internal" > fi Thanks for this pointer - yes, xrandr is a very convenient tool for switching the outputs. I tried this with LVDS, HDMI-0 and VGA-0, back and forth, in various combinations, but whenever the laptop's own display comes back on, the green pixels are there, while the image on all other outputs - as expected - is absolutely normal. I can even switch to "unsuitable" modes like 640x480, but the problem just gets magnified. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 30 21:07:40 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C104D1B8631 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 21:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47QP8r1tw0z4WW5 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 21:07:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from rain.home (pool-72-74-69-77.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [72.74.69.77]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47QP8q1F5rz1prF for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 16:07:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Installation image size for CD exceeds media size To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20191129223920.3c24fabf.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191130200846.37fea47a.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Kurt Hackenberg Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 16:07:36 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20191130200846.37fea47a.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47QP8r1tw0z4WW5 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kh@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kh@panix.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.82 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:166.84.0.0/16]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[panix.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[89.1.84.166.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; IP_SCORE(-3.32)[ip: (-9.38), ipnet: 166.84.0.0/16(-3.97), asn: 2033(-3.18), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2033, ipnet:166.84.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 21:07:40 -0000 On 2019-11-30 14:08, Polytropon wrote: > FreeBSD-9.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 608919552 > FreeBSD-10.1-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 615966720 > FreeBSD-10.2-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 645224448 > FreeBSD-10.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 647389184 > FreeBSD-10.4-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 569620480 > FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 601817088 > FreeBSD-11.1-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 618297344 > FreeBSD-11.1-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 618297344 > FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 758073344 > FreeBSD-12.1-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 763678720 I guess this was accidental. I bet nobody noticed that this eventually exceeded the size of a CD, or people forgot that "disc" meant CD. I agree that the "disc" images should fit on CDs, and the "dvd" images should fit on DVDs. Probably "disc" should be renamed "cd". Maybe it's time to rethink that whole set of images for optical disks and flash memory devices, decide how many and which ones are worth maintaining. In everybody's copious free time. 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To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , "freebsd-usb@FreeBSD.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47QP9w75jDz4Wh9 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=FQB8eQ7L; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::32f) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.70 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[f.2.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.40)[ip: (-7.74), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.25), asn: 15169(-1.94), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 21:08:37 -0000 Hello world :-) I have to clone a pendrive, the same one to another almost the same (number of sectors differs a bit). The problem is that DD does not seem to do the job. It always worked for me. Also I am not really able to clone the MBR: 1. dd if=/dev/da0 of=/dev/da1 bs=512 count=1 does not copy anything. 2. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da1 bs=512 count=1 zeroes the mbr. 3. dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/da1 bs=512 count=1 randoms the mbr. 4. dd if=/dev/da0 of=da0.mbt bs=512 count1; dd if=da0.mbr bc=512 count=1 does NOT copy the mbr. 5. mdconfig -a -tvnode da0.mbr; dd if=/dev/md0 of=/dev/da1 bc=512 count=1 does put the data into mbr, but still da1 seems to have no partitions!!! In such Black Magic situations I usually put /dev/zero on a target disk, just to make sure MBR and GPT are not messed/mixed up, then re-tried and things worked. Not this time. While size of the drives differs a bit, the last partition contains FreeBSD LiveCD image and is much smaller than the partition so it can be truncated with no problem because there are zeros after. Does GEOM in any way prevents me from using disk that has corrupt MBR? Why I cannot write a MBR from a file but I can from a md0? Any hints welcome :-) Tomek # gpart backup da0 | gpart restore -F da1 gpart: size '17575936': Invalid argument ugen0.7: at usbus0 umass0 on uhub0 umass0: on usbus0 umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x8100 umass0:2:0: Attached to scbus2 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SPC-4 SCSI device da0: Serial Number BLAHBLAH da0: 400.000MB/s transfers da0: 118368MB (242417664 512 byte sectors) da0: quirks=0x2 ugen0.8: at usbus0 umass1 on uhub0 umass1: on usbus0 umass1: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x8100 umass1:3:1: Attached to scbus3 da1 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus3 target 0 lun 0 da1: Removable Direct Access SPC-4 SCSI device da1: Serial Number BLAHBLAH da1: 400.000MB/s transfers da1: 118272MB (242221056 512 byte sectors) da1: quirks=0x2 GEOM_PART: integrity check failed (da1, MBR) FreeBSD 0xCFMX4 12.1-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 12.1-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 30 21:15:14 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14251B8EF5 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 21:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@mips.inka.de) Received: from mail.inka.de (mail.inka.de [IPv6:2a04:c9c7:0:1073:217:a4ff:fe3b:e77c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47QPKZ019rz4XQ1 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 21:15:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@mips.inka.de) Received: from mips.inka.de (news@[127.0.0.1]) by mail.inka.de with uucp (rmailwrap 0.5) id 1ibA53-0005OG-B8; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 22:15:05 +0100 Received: from lorvorc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id xAULDw6f091964 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 22:13:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from news@lorvorc.mips.inka.de) Received: (from news@localhost) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id xAULDwqn091963 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 22:13:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from news) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christian Weisgerber Newsgroups: list.freebsd.questions Subject: Firefox keeps downloaded files open? Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 21:13:58 -0000 (UTC) Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (FreeBSD) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47QPKZ019rz4XQ1 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of news@mips.inka.de has no SPF policy when checking 2a04:c9c7:0:1073:217:a4ff:fe3b:e77c) smtp.mailfrom=news@mips.inka.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.52)[ip: (1.38), ipnet: 2a04:c9c7::/32(0.69), asn: 202113(0.55), country: DE(-0.01)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.29)[0.287,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.994,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[inka.de]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[naddy@mips.inka.de,news@mips.inka.de]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:202113, ipnet:2a04:c9c7::/32, country:DE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[naddy@mips.inka.de,news@mips.inka.de]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 21:15:14 -0000 Lately I've been downloading some large files with Firefox. Once the download has successfully finished, I "Clear Downloads" in the Firefox download library window, so Firefox should forget about the files. I then copy them to a different filesystem and rm the original. _Sometimes_ the disk space is not freed. Obviously Firefox is still keeping a file descriptor open, because quitting Firefox then immediately frees the disk space. Is anybody else seeing this? It only happens intermittently. Sometimes the disk space is freed immediately following the rm, sometimes it isn't. I've started noticing this in recent weeks, but that may simply be due to my usage pattern. FreeBSD 12-STABLE with whatever the lastest www/firefox port is, currently 71.0. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 30 21:33:31 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06E91B95F7; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 21:33:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47QPkf4zxBz4YYK; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 21:33:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.2.248]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mo73N-1hzLqA19RL-00pfdM; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 22:33:25 +0100 Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 22:33:22 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , "freebsd-usb@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: pendrive clone impossible ? 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The problem is that DD does not > seem to do the job. It always worked for me. > > Also I am not really able to clone the MBR: > 1. dd if=/dev/da0 of=/dev/da1 bs=512 count=1 does not copy anything. What is the error message that dd provides? > 2. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da1 bs=512 count=1 zeroes the mbr. > 3. dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/da1 bs=512 count=1 randoms the mbr. > 4. dd if=/dev/da0 of=da0.mbt bs=512 count1; dd if=da0.mbr bc=512 > count=1 does NOT copy the mbr. The last command seems to be a bit "damaged", I think it should read (separated into two commands for better readability): dd if=/dev/da0 of=da0.mbr bs=512 count=1 dd if=da0.mbr of=/dev/da0 bs=512 count=1 Again, what is the error message of the 2nd dd command? > 5. mdconfig -a -tvnode da0.mbr; dd if=/dev/md0 of=/dev/da1 bc=512 > count=1 does put the data into mbr, but still da1 seems to have no > partitions!!! Have you tried copying more than just the first 512 bytes, let's say, the first whole MB? Of course the rest of the partitions would be "incomplete" and therefore not readable, but you should at least get the partition information when you use gpart or ye olde fdisk to read it. > While size of the drives differs a bit, the last partition contains > FreeBSD LiveCD image and is much smaller than the partition so it can > be truncated with no problem because there are zeros after. That should be no problem. Partitions can always be smaller than But... you're mentioning a FreeBSD Live CD image. Maybe that one is dedicated, i. e., doesn't actually have any partitions with the meaning of "DOS primary partitions" (which is what gpart or fdisk would list, as mentioned above). However, at least gpart should show at least _some_ information, or you use "disklabel /dev/da" and compare source and target data. In case of a dedicated partitioning (with partition meaning an _actual_ partition in the context of a BSD label, "the thing with the letters"), you should at least find one partition (the "a" partition, bootable). So it's no entirely clear if you try to deal with a MBR disk, something dedicated, or GPT? Everything is possible. :-) > Does GEOM in any way prevents me from using disk that has corrupt MBR? That is possible. Try "sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=0x16" which was, at least in the past, often a way to make things work again. :-) > Why I cannot write a MBR from a file but I can from a md0? To dd, a virtual node shouldn't be needed to operate on MBRs. The if= and of= parameters will (should!) accept plain files just like real devices. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Compiling everything in ./compile... sh find-systype.sh > systype rm -f compile sh print-cc.sh > compile chmod 555 compile ./compile byte_chr.c gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 whereis gcc gcc: /usr/local/bin/gcc /usr/src/contrib/gcc gcc -v Using built-in specs. COLLECT_GCC=gcc Target: x86_64-portbld-freebsd11.1 Configured with: /wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/gcc6/work/gcc-6.4.0/configure --with-build-config=bootstrap-debug --disable-nls --enable-gnu-indirect-function --libdir=/usr/local/lib/gcc6 --libexecdir=/usr/local/libexec/gcc6 --program-suffix=6 --with-as=/usr/local/bin/as --with-gmp=/usr/local --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/local/lib/gcc6/include/c++/ --with-ld=/usr/local/bin/ld --with-pkgversion='FreeBSD Ports Collection' --with-system-zlib --with-ecj-jar=/usr/local/share/java/ecj-4.5.jar --enable-languages=c,c++,objc,fortran,java --prefix=/usr/local --localstatedir=/var --mandir=/usr/local/man --infodir=/usr/local/info/gcc6 --build=x86_64-portbld-freebsd11.1 Thread model: posix gcc version 6.4.0 (FreeBSD Ports Collection) how to fix this? 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Remembers me to MiniDisc (MD) - smaller than today's 5.25"-oriented optical media, comes in protective case, and is R/W. If I could have _that_ form factor with a reasonable capacity for today, that would be great. :-) sizes: 8" -> 5.25" -> 3.5" -> 5.25" again Yes, I know even 3" disks existed, I have one sitting on the shelf above my head, becasue I'm a living museum. :-) Oh, and a Mac Mini is about the size of a standard 5.25" DVD drive unit for PCs. :-) > and remember that current Atari 5.25" > disks are 160KB single sided and barely anyone owns a disk drive > anyway here in Eastern Europe behind the Iron Curtain so we quite > often share a software directly over a public FM radio broadcasts to > store them on our CC/MC cassette streamers.. mmmm old good times :-) > :-) :-) I'm old enough to remember that - oh, and of course I have the required hardware in working condition. You can easily imagine how _disappointing_ it is to own hardware that is several decades old and works like new, while seeing hardware not older than a few years break down without the ability of diagnostics or repair. OK >_ -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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To: Polytropon Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , "freebsd-usb@FreeBSD.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47QQxw5KbYz4bxp X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=Hw01Plfu; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::229) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.82 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[9.2.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.52)[ip: (-8.38), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.25), asn: 15169(-1.94), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 22:28:21 -0000 It looks like either GEOM is hiding something from application/me, or pendrive itself is preventing MBR to be modified, or some sort of mix..? I guess the first is more probable because DD'ing from /dev/md0, /dev/zero, /dev/random devices always works, while DD'ing from da0.mbr file never works. If pendrive was defending itself none of them would be possible, right? The Source pendrive was MBR. This is why I did /dev/zero -> /dev/da1 just to make sure there is no GPT of any sort on the Target pendrive, nor MBR, also I could see where write was skipped. This is the first time ever dd if=/dev/da0 of=/dev/da1 did NOT copy the entire drive (the da1 attached GEOM noted inegrity checked MBR was left blank the rest seems to be there). DD reported NO ERROR.. in fact I got a standard summary on transferred bytes as operation was completed successfully. I did not count all bytes transferred because I never had to before. Is the OS hiding something from me? And from DD? Is Penrdive messing with the GEOM / OS? Because I need to finish quickly, I have used GPART to create and add partitions by hand and I am DD'ing partition by partition. So far so good. The Target pendrive is Kingston 128GB DTSE9 G2 USB3.0. Be careful with that fellow! Below is a Kingston's response cut-and-paste found on a forum where another folk tried to install bootable system on a 32GB DTSE9 G2 ;-) " The first thing to point out is that a USB drive needs to be set as a fixed drive which requires a tweak in the firmware, commonly refereed to as "flipping the RMB". Not every firmware is suitable for such an operation and since we use different flash controller providers to meet the supply and demand for our products, we cannot check the suitability of every firmware to be altered to accomodate booting from USB. Furthermore a standard USB drive is designed for sequential read and writes, rather than random read and write speeds. Booting from the USB will be very slow and will be a detriment to the product, affectively its longevity. Therefore we cannot guarantee the longevity and reliability of the drive within the warranty period, and could offer no further support in case of a drive failure. This is the reason why we at Kingston do not support the bootability of our commodity USB products. If you purchased the DTSE9G2/32GB to be used specifically for this purpose, we can only recommend that you return it to your supplier for a refund and we apologise for any inconvenience this may cause. " WELL, KINGSTON LOOKS LIKE A LOTTERY AND I FEEL LIKE A WINNER! ;-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 30 22:49:11 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA7C1BAF43; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 22:49:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47QRPx65nbz4cjC; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 22:49:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.2.248]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MauFB-1i3mfU1Q4p-00cRu3; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 23:49:03 +0100 Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 23:49:00 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , "freebsd-usb@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: pendrive clone impossible ? 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That is possible (but unlikely), and there's another (equally unlikely) possibility that your computer has some "boot sector virus protection" activated in the BIOS which prevents writes to block 0 of a device... > I guess the first is more probable because DD'ing from /dev/md0, > /dev/zero, /dev/random devices always works, while DD'ing from da0.mbr > file never works. If pendrive was defending itself none of them would > be possible, right? Yes, that's at least my impression. Can you provide an error message of dd, or does it say "blocks copied", but no MBR data actually arrived on the USB stick? > The Source pendrive was MBR. This is why I did /dev/zero -> /dev/da1 > just to make sure there is no GPT of any sort on the Target pendrive, > nor MBR, also I could see where write was skipped. Okay, so you can _confirm_ that there is MBR (partition table with "DOS primary partitions") in it - good. In that case, using gpart or fdisk to read the MBR should work definitely for the source stick - and should also work for the target stick after the MBR has been written correctly. > This is the first time ever dd if=/dev/da0 of=/dev/da1 did NOT copy > the entire drive (the da1 attached GEOM noted inegrity checked MBR was > left blank the rest seems to be there). If you use something like # dd if=/dev/da0 of=/dev/da1 bs=1M i. e., a block size typical for such media, does it make any difference? Not copying 512 bytes is one thing, but not copying a much larger block - 1 MB - with the 512 bytes at its beginning, that would be _really_ strange. Maybe - even though I cannot imagine why - the target stick does not accept being written smaller amounts of data, which of course is nonsense, as you said that 512 bytes of zeroes or random data _will_ be written. > DD reported NO ERROR.. in fact > I got a standard summary on transferred bytes as operation was > completed successfully. I did not count all bytes transferred because > I never had to before. Is the OS hiding something from me? And from > DD? Is Penrdive messing with the GEOM / OS? If you dd the 1st 512 bytes out of the source and the target and compare them, are they identical? They _should_, according to what dd reports. # dd if=/dev/da0 of=/dev/da1 bs=512 count=1 # dd if=/dev/da0 of=da0.mbr bs=512 count=1 # dd if=/dev/da1 of=da1.mbr bs=512 count=1 # diff da0.mbr da1.mbr You can then repeat this test with a bigger block: # dd if=/dev/da0 of=/dev/da1 bs=1m count=1 # dd if=/dev/da0 of=da0.1mb bs=1m count=1 # dd if=/dev/da1 of=da1.1mb bs=1m count=1 # diff da0.1mb da1.1mb In any case, there should be _no_ difference (no matter if the partitions themselves are incomplete and unreadable on the target stick). > Because I need to finish quickly, I have used GPART to create and add > partitions by hand and I am DD'ing partition by partition. So far so > good. In case they are UFS partitions, you could newfs the target partition, and then use dump | restore - I don't know if this is faster, but it would work as well. > The Target pendrive is Kingston 128GB DTSE9 G2 USB3.0. Be careful with > that fellow! > > Below is a Kingston's response cut-and-paste found on a forum where > another folk tried to install bootable system on a 32GB DTSE9 G2 ;-) > > " > The first thing to point out is that a USB drive needs to be set as a > fixed drive which requires a tweak in the firmware, commonly refereed > to as "flipping the RMB". Not every firmware is suitable for such an > operation and since we use different flash controller providers to > meet the supply and demand for our products, we cannot check the > suitability of every firmware to be altered to accomodate booting from > USB. > > Furthermore a standard USB drive is designed for sequential read and > writes, rather than random read and write speeds. > > Booting from the USB will be very slow and will be a detriment to the > product, affectively its longevity. > > Therefore we cannot guarantee the longevity and reliability of the > drive within the warranty period, and could offer no further support > in case of a drive failure. > > This is the reason why we at Kingston do not support the bootability > of our commodity USB products. > > If you purchased the DTSE9G2/32GB to be used specifically for this > purpose, we can only recommend that you return it to your supplier for > a refund and we apologise for any inconvenience this may cause. > " > > WELL, KINGSTON LOOKS LIKE A LOTTERY AND I FEEL LIKE A WINNER! ;-) Next idea is for them to put some "AI/ML anti virus malware" into the firmware of the USB stick that accepts data, returns "written" to the writer, but doesn't actually write anything to its storage, because... we need to protect the users! :-) Rule: If it stops you to do stupid things, it also stops you to do clever things, and most things we do in UNIX world are usually not invented elsewhere. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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If I could have > _that_ form factor with a reasonable capacity for today, that would > be great. :-) Yea! But these MD's were only 140MB in capacity? Those small DVD+RW are 8cm in diameter and contains 1.4GB storage capacity. They are fully compatible with standard DVD recorder. They do in fact remind me those nice MD disks this is why still use them :-) Each one of them has its own small plastic casing but then you put only the disk into a drive so its compatible with "tray" drives. They will not work with Mac and Playstation "sucking" drives though because they are too small. > Yes, I know even 3" disks existed, I have one sitting on the shelf > above my head, becasue I'm a living museum. :-) Compact Floppy Disk? CF2? :-) :-) > Oh, and a Mac Mini is about the size of a standard 5.25" DVD drive > unit for PCs. :-) True :-) However those small DVD+RW's are too small for "sucking" drives like MacMini has.. and you better not try if they work ;-P > > and remember that current Atari 5.25" > > disks are 160KB single sided and barely anyone owns a disk drive > > anyway here in Eastern Europe behind the Iron Curtain so we quite > > often share a software directly over a public FM radio broadcasts to > > store them on our CC/MC cassette streamers.. mmmm old good times :-) > > :-) :-) > > I'm old enough to remember that - oh, and of course I have the > required hardware in working condition. You can easily imagine > how _disappointing_ it is to own hardware that is several decades > old and works like new, while seeing hardware not older than a > few years break down without the ability of diagnostics or repair. Exactly!! This is why I stick to FreeBSD because I really believe and feel the Unix spirit in here.. I just really hope it will never turn into Linux / Android / Windows :-) My friends wrote some games for 8-bit Atari. I have not 3 custom cartridges. I just power on the Atari and boom the game is just here up and running.. on a machine from 1987 with zero maintenance :-) Unfortunately my 16-bit Amiga already refused to power-on some time ago what can indicate that power supply and the mainboard needs a re-cap. With modern hardware it seems they even do not beta test it anymore, because time to market and marketing set schedules that are too abstract for reasonable design production and validation. 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[209.85.167.174]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j26sm2066588otq.18.2019.11.30.15.29.27 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 30 Nov 2019 15:29:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-oi1-f174.google.com with SMTP id k196so12781261oib.2; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 15:29:27 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:aca:5785:: with SMTP id l127mr6227330oib.168.1575156566754; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 15:29:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191130223322.1028feab.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191130234900.81464b43.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20191130234900.81464b43.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2019 00:29:13 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: pendrive clone impossible ? To: Polytropon Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , "freebsd-usb@FreeBSD.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47QSJT551Zz4fpK X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=fAXHMqRN; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::32f) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.69 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[f.2.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.39)[ip: (-7.70), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.25), asn: 15169(-1.94), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 23:29:30 -0000 On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 11:49 PM Polytropon wrote: > > On Sat, 30 Nov 2019 23:28:04 +0100, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > > It looks like either GEOM is hiding something from application/me, or > > pendrive itself is preventing MBR to be modified, or some sort of > > mix..? > > That is possible (but unlikely), and there's another (equally > unlikely) possibility that your computer has some "boot sector > virus protection" activated in the BIOS which prevents writes > to block 0 of a device... Nope, I also though about that, buy would have noticed that, and the problem did not show up with any other device, while I am really cloning lots of drives for servicing/backup purposes :-) > > I guess the first is more probable because DD'ing from /dev/md0, > > /dev/zero, /dev/random devices always works, while DD'ing from da0.mbr > > file never works. If pendrive was defending itself none of them would > > be possible, right? > > Yes, that's at least my impression. Can you provide an error > message of dd, or does it say "blocks copied", but no MBR data > actually arrived on the USB stick? no error at all. just blah bytes transferred in blah seconds (blah bytes / second). > > The Source pendrive was MBR. This is why I did /dev/zero -> /dev/da1 > > just to make sure there is no GPT of any sort on the Target pendrive, > > nor MBR, also I could see where write was skipped. > > Okay, so you can _confirm_ that there is MBR (partition table > with "DOS primary partitions") in it - good. In that case, > using gpart or fdisk to read the MBR should work definitely > for the source stick - and should also work for the target stick > after the MBR has been written correctly. Yes. Source pendrive works and worked fine for several months on dozens of machines connected with no problem. Target pendrive was advertised to be faster so I just wanted to clone the data to a faster device ;-) > If you use something like > # dd if=/dev/da0 of=/dev/da1 bs=1M > i. e., a block size typical for such media, does it make any > difference? Not copying 512 bytes is one thing, but not copying > a much larger block - 1 MB - with the 512 bytes at its beginning, > that would be _really_ strange. I usually use "bs=1000m" or "bs=500m" with "status=progress" for a large drives because that allows optimal performance and progress tracking.. so I guess the bigger block size has already been tested :-) > If you dd the 1st 512 bytes out of the source and the target and > compare them, are they identical? They _should_, according to what > dd reports. > > # dd if=/dev/da0 of=/dev/da1 bs=512 count=1 That did not copy the DA0 MBR to DA1. > # dd if=/dev/da0 of=da0.mbr bs=512 count=1 That did copy DA0 MBR to a file. > # dd if=/dev/da1 of=da1.mbr bs=512 count=1 That did copy DA1 MBR to a file. > # diff da0.mbr da1.mbr Looking with `less -f` when the copy was done the contents was the same, when copy was not done I could see the difference because of writing zeros prior. > You can then repeat this test with a bigger block: I did a copy whole disk data from one to another using much more bigger blocks like 100M 500M and 1000M.. no change. > In any case, there should be _no_ difference (no matter if the > partitions themselves are incomplete and unreadable on the target > stick). Yes, I think so too. > > Because I need to finish quickly, I have used GPART to create and add > > partitions by hand and I am DD'ing partition by partition. So far so > > good. > > In case they are UFS partitions, you could newfs the target > partition, and then use dump | restore - I don't know if this > is faster, but it would work as well. I just have one big FAT32 storage partition for files, one bootable FreeBSD LiveCD/Installed copied from a memstick image, and one Kali Linux bootable image just in case ;-) > Next idea is for them to put some "AI/ML anti virus malware" into > the firmware of the USB stick that accepts data, returns "written" > to the writer, but doesn't actually write anything to its storage, > because... we need to protect the users! :-) Well, I need to stop at assumption that this particular Kingston line of pendrives are messy and should be avoided, maybe some quirk could do the job, but I have no more time to play, so I leave a trace if someone meets similar issues in future :-) > Rule: > If it stops you to do stupid things, it also stops you to do clever > things, and most things we do in UNIX world are usually not invented > elsewhere. :-) This is why I do not respect these modern UX "researchers" that removed menu from a GIMP toolbar "because no other program works that way". This most beautiful Rule in the universe reveals such ignorance instantly! On the other side of the force we have "according to microsoft development is about enforcing changes" and so we do live now in this kind of the "enforced" world.. 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I ran pkg upgrade when halted when installing linux_base-c7-7.1908 and I got the message: Kernel missing 64-bit support I haven't found any information about this on-line so far, so it's a bit of a head-scratcher for me. In addition, the upgrading apparently misplaced libxfconf-0.so.2, which is apparently needed by xfce. I recall this was an issue when I upgraded from 11.2 to 11.3, but it doesn't seem to have been fixed. Again, I haven't found anything on-line on how to fix it, though I remember having to downgrade a certain library or file when this happened before. The question for me is "Now what?". Upgrading to version 12 doesn't appear to be an option because I tried it several months ago and the machine wouldn't run it. Do I have to rebuild the kernel and, of so, what do I have to do to modify it? Another option for me would be to start again from scratch but only to 11.2. The machine the drive is for is rather old, so it could be that some of my problems are because of hardware incompatibilities. Does anyone have any further suggestions or ideas? Thank you. B. M. Jatzeck