From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Nov 26 02:57:45 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA29479 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 02:57:45 -0800 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA29470 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 02:57:37 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id CAA06290; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 02:57:17 -0800 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 02:57:17 -0800 Message-Id: <199511261057.CAA06290@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: peter@jhome.dialix.com CC: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Repository copy request: ports/utils -> ports/misc From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk O mighty repository manager, I would like to request a repository copy of everything in ports/utils to ports/misc (a new category). Actually, everything but one: utils/beav should be moved to editors/beav, it's an editor and there is a category for that, I don't know why it ended up here in the first place! Please drop me a note when you are done, I can do the rest (modules, parent Makefiles, cvs remove of the originals). Thanks Satoshi (aka the Gunslinger) From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Nov 26 03:02:03 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA29727 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 03:02:03 -0800 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA29717 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 03:01:57 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id DAA06312; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 03:01:37 -0800 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 03:01:37 -0800 Message-Id: <199511261101.DAA06312@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: peter@jhome.dialix.com CC: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Repository copy request: ports/games/astrolog -> ports/misc From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk O mighty repository manager, Sorry I forgot to mention one more thing. Please copy games/astrolog to the new "misc" category. Thanks Satoshi (aka the Gunslinger) From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Nov 26 03:08:41 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA29975 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 03:08:41 -0800 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA29969 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 03:08:35 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id DAA06733; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 03:08:16 -0800 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 03:08:16 -0800 Message-Id: <199511261108.DAA06733@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: peter@jhome.dialix.com CC: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Repository copy request: (part of) ports/net -> ports/www From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Dear Peter, Please create a new category "www" and copy the following ports from the directories indicated: from "net": Mosaic, apache, cern_httpd, cern_linemode, chimera, gn, lynx, netscape, netscape2, tkWWW, wn, wwwish, zircon from "editors": ashe, tkHTML from "devel": weblint No need to copy the Makefile, I'll create a new one. Thank you The Gunslinger From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Nov 26 03:37:05 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA01955 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 03:37:05 -0800 Received: from jhome.DIALix.COM (root@jhome.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA01948 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 03:36:55 -0800 Received: (from peter@localhost) by jhome.DIALix.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA17223; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 19:36:34 +0800 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 19:36:33 +0800 (WST) From: Peter Wemm To: Satoshi Asami cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Repository copy request: (part of) ports/net -> ports/www In-Reply-To: <199511261108.DAA06733@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 26 Nov 1995, Satoshi Asami wrote: > Dear Peter, > > Please create a new category "www" and copy the following ports from > the directories indicated: > > from "net": > > Mosaic, apache, cern_httpd, cern_linemode, chimera, gn, lynx, > netscape, netscape2, tkWWW, wn, wwwish, zircon ^^^^^^ Uhhh.. zircon is an IRC client, not a web client. I think that better stay put.. :-) BTW: netscape-2.0b3 works *much* better than 2.0b2.. :-) -Peter > from "editors": > > ashe, tkHTML > > from "devel": > > weblint > > No need to copy the Makefile, I'll create a new one. > > Thank you > The Gunslinger > From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Nov 26 03:38:56 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA02036 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 03:38:56 -0800 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA02027 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 03:38:52 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id DAA07281; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 03:38:34 -0800 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 03:38:34 -0800 Message-Id: <199511261138.DAA07281@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: peter@jhome.DIALix.COM CC: ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Peter Wemm on Sun, 26 Nov 1995 19:36:33 +0800 (WST)) Subject: Re: Repository copy request: (part of) ports/net -> ports/www From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * Uhhh.. zircon is an IRC client, not a web client. I think that better * stay put.. :-) Eewww. Sorry about that, you are right. ;) * BTW: netscape-2.0b3 works *much* better than 2.0b2.. :-) Hmmm. It still core dumps with amazing frequency for me.... Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Nov 26 04:17:26 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA03972 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 04:17:26 -0800 Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (ix-sb1-29.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.61]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA03952 ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 04:17:16 -0800 Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id EAA02136; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 04:20:19 -0800 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 04:20:18 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: FreeBSD Ports cc: freebsd-announce@freebsd.org Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: Port/package of WorkMan-1.3 now available! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Well, I've finally had some time to sit down and figure out the mechanics of making ports/packages, and so have decided to contribute something useful to the FreeBSD community using my new-found knowledge. :) To that end, a port of the WorkMan audio CD player, version 1.3, is now available at: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/workman.tar.gz This is a tarred copy of the ports directory for WorkMan. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/WorkMan-1.3.tgz This is an installable (binary) package of WorkMan. I must thank Todd Pfaff for doing the initial porting to FreeBSD 1.0. There were some changes and general beating-up of the source code needed to get it to work properly using 2.x (at least, on my setup (SCSI CD-ROM on Adaptec 1542CF controller) some changes were needed). And besides, it was never formalized as a 'port' or 'package'. So here it is. :) For those of you wondering "what the @#%@#$%# is he talking about?", perhaps this excerpt from the WorkMan README will help describe what this is: -----CUT HERE WorkMan is a graphical tool for playing audio compact discs on a CD-ROM drive. It has most of the features available on standalone CD players, such as a shuffle mode, programmable playlists, and elapsed/remaining timers. But it also has extra features, foremost of which is the ability to store information about CDs in a database, then automatically extract that information when the CD is inserted later. WorkMan stores the artist's name, the disc title, the names of individual tracks, and even remembers which tracks you don't want to hear! All in an easy-to-use, attractive OPEN LOOK graphical interface. -----CUT HERE Finally, since this is an OPEN LOOK program, the XView development environment must be installed (consisting of the xview-{clients,config,lib} packages, and possibly one of olwm/olvwm (window managers). Please report any problems with this port/package to me at the email below. Since this is my first try at this, there will undoubtedly be errors in it. :) Cheers, Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Nov 26 05:12:05 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id FAA06262 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 05:12:05 -0800 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA06222 ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 05:11:58 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id FAA10082; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 05:10:36 -0800 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 05:10:36 -0800 Message-Id: <199511261310.FAA10082@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: d_burr@ix.netcom.com CC: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-announce@freebsd.org Reply-to: ports@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU In-reply-to: (message from Donald Burr on Sun, 26 Nov 1995 04:20:18 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Port/package of WorkMan-1.3 now available! From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk (Reply-to: set to "ports") * Please report any problems with this port/package to me at the email * below. Since this is my first try at this, there will undoubtedly be * errors in it. :) Thanks! I tried it and in general it seems to be working great, so I made some minor changes and committed it. Please take it and see what's up! By the way, I tried the "workmandb.gz" file found in the same directory as the source, but it seems like some of the fields do not come out exactly the same -- most notably the last field of the "tracks" line is always off by one (in either direction), and my CDs are not recognized even though they are in the database. Also, it complains about not being able to write to /var/run, we can solve it by making it setuid-bin but I'm not sure if it's safe enough to do that. Well, let me know what you think about the above comments. It's an excellent program though! Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Nov 26 07:03:51 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA12118 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 07:03:51 -0800 Received: from jhome.DIALix.COM (root@jhome.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA12113 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 07:03:45 -0800 Received: (from peter@localhost) by jhome.DIALix.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA17864; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 23:03:25 +0800 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 23:03:24 +0800 (WST) From: Peter Wemm To: Satoshi Asami cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Repository copy request: ports/utils -> ports/misc In-Reply-To: <199511261057.CAA06290@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 26 Nov 1995, Satoshi Asami wrote: > > O mighty repository manager, > > I would like to request a repository copy of everything in ports/utils > to ports/misc (a new category). Actually, everything but one: > utils/beav should be moved to editors/beav, it's an editor and there > is a category for that, I don't know why it ended up here in the first > place! Ye gods.. There are a lot of dead animals^H^H^H^H^H^Hdirectories in utils. Unless somebody yells otherwise, I think I'll delete the old empty directories first, that should make things easier. Since we have not had any repository copies in ports for a while, I think the 72 hour grace period is well and truely "up".. :-) If anybody has not been using "cvs update -d -P" on their local tree, they might get a suprise though... -Peter > Please drop me a note when you are done, I can do the rest (modules, > parent Makefiles, cvs remove of the originals). > > Thanks > Satoshi (aka the Gunslinger) > From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Nov 26 07:55:29 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA14876 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 07:55:29 -0800 Received: from jhome.DIALix.COM (root@jhome.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA14870 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 07:55:18 -0800 Received: (from peter@localhost) by jhome.DIALix.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA18386; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 23:55:00 +0800 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 23:54:59 +0800 (WST) From: Peter Wemm To: Satoshi Asami cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Repository copy request: (part of) ports/net -> ports/www In-Reply-To: <199511261108.DAA06733@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 26 Nov 1995, Satoshi Asami wrote: > Please create a new category "www" and copy the following ports from > the directories indicated: > > from "net": > > Mosaic, apache, cern_httpd, cern_linemode, chimera, gn, lynx, > netscape, netscape2, tkWWW, wn, wwwish, zircon > > from "editors": > > ashe, tkHTML > > from "devel": > > weblint > > No need to copy the Makefile, I'll create a new one. > > Thank you > The Gunslinger OK, done. In case there is any doubt, this is the copy list I generated and used: pcopy devel/weblint www/weblint pcopy editors/ashe www/ashe pcopy editors/tkHTML www/tkHTML pcopy net/Mosaic www/Mosaic pcopy net/apache www/apache pcopy net/cern_httpd www/cern_httpd pcopy net/cern_linemode www/cern_linemode pcopy net/chimera www/chimera pcopy net/gn www/gn pcopy net/lynx www/lynx pcopy net/netscape www/netscape pcopy net/netscape2 www/netscape2 pcopy net/tkWWW www/tkWWW pcopy net/wn www/wn pcopy net/wwwish www/wwwish pcopy utils/beav editors/beav pcopy games/astrolog misc/astrolog pcopy utils/amanda misc/amanda pcopy utils/buffer misc/buffer pcopy utils/chord misc/chord pcopy utils/colorls misc/colorls pcopy utils/git misc/git pcopy utils/ical misc/ical pcopy utils/ispell misc/ispell pcopy utils/kp misc/kp pcopy utils/less misc/less pcopy utils/mc misc/mc pcopy utils/mmv misc/mmv pcopy utils/mshell misc/mshell pcopy utils/recode misc/recode pcopy utils/rman misc/rman pcopy utils/screen misc/screen pcopy utils/team misc/team pcopy utils/tkinfo misc/tkinfo pcopy utils/tkman misc/tkman I have also done an "old Attic" cleanup on the ~ncvs/ports area before it got too far out of hand. I've kept a copy in /b/alt_ncvs (next to /b/ncvs) on freefall in case I've been too trigger-happy. The most recent Attics from the last few days are still there. I'd very much like to delete the old (greater than 7 day) empty directories in the tree. It'll speed up a 'cvs update -d -P' a fair bit. -Peter From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Nov 26 13:30:53 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA02863 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 13:30:53 -0800 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA02845 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 13:30:20 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA28670; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 13:29:59 -0800 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 13:29:59 -0800 Message-Id: <199511262129.NAA28670@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: peter@jhome.DIALix.COM CC: ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Peter Wemm on Sun, 26 Nov 1995 23:54:59 +0800 (WST)) Subject: Re: Repository copy request: (part of) ports/net -> ports/www From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Thanks....can you copy utils/Makefile into misc/Makefile too? (Sorry I forgot to ask this the first time....) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Nov 26 13:33:51 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA03029 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 13:33:51 -0800 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA03017 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 13:33:27 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA28680; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 13:33:02 -0800 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 13:33:02 -0800 Message-Id: <199511262133.NAA28680@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: peter@jhome.DIALix.COM CC: ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Peter Wemm on Sun, 26 Nov 1995 23:03:24 +0800 (WST)) Subject: Re: Repository copy request: ports/utils -> ports/misc From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * Ye gods.. There are a lot of dead animals^H^H^H^H^H^Hdirectories in * utils. Unless somebody yells otherwise, I think I'll delete the old * empty directories first, that should make things easier. Sure sure, go ahead. The largest reason why we don't put release tags on the ports tree is so that you can do these stuff! :) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Nov 26 16:16:13 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA15742 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 16:16:13 -0800 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA15644 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 16:16:01 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA29002; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 16:15:30 -0800 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 16:15:30 -0800 Message-Id: <199511270015.QAA29002@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: peter@jhome.DIALix.COM CC: ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Peter Wemm on Sun, 26 Nov 1995 23:54:59 +0800 (WST)) Subject: Re: Repository copy request: (part of) ports/net -> ports/www From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * OK, done. Thanks. I did the rest of the work, namely removing all ports from their former locations, adjusting the subdir Makefiles and module paths. After you copy utils/Makefile (which is in the Attic now) to misc, I'll change the new category names in ports/Makefile and commit the new INDEX. And then that should be it. Thanks! Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Nov 26 17:48:06 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA19719 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 17:48:06 -0800 Received: from jhome.DIALix.COM (root@jhome.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA19648 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 17:48:01 -0800 Received: (from peter@localhost) by jhome.DIALix.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA20210; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:47:19 +0800 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:47:18 +0800 (WST) From: Peter Wemm To: Satoshi Asami cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Repository copy request: (part of) ports/net -> ports/www In-Reply-To: <199511262129.NAA28670@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 26 Nov 1995, Satoshi Asami wrote: > > Thanks....can you copy utils/Makefile into misc/Makefile too? (Sorry > I forgot to ask this the first time....) Done... -Peter > Satoshi > From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Nov 26 18:25:22 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA21082 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 18:25:22 -0800 Received: from jhome.DIALix.COM (root@jhome.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA21069 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 18:24:56 -0800 Received: (from peter@localhost) by jhome.DIALix.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA20506; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:24:26 +0800 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:24:23 +0800 (WST) From: Peter Wemm To: Satoshi Asami cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Repository copy request: (part of) ports/net -> ports/www In-Reply-To: <199511270015.QAA29002@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 26 Nov 1995, Satoshi Asami wrote: > * OK, done. > > Thanks. I did the rest of the work, namely removing all ports from > their former locations, adjusting the subdir Makefiles and module > paths. I decided to get lazy and write a script for the "special case" of the non-tagged ports heirachy. Boy, am I glad Satoshi slapped me back to my senses when I suggested he branch the 2.1 tree rather than freeze.. > After you copy utils/Makefile (which is in the Attic now) to misc, > I'll change the new category names in ports/Makefile and commit the > new INDEX. And then that should be it. BTW, I dont know how much of an issue it is to have a permanently buildable ports tree, but I can move rather than copy the files all in the same step. This would leave the SUBDIR tree broken.... -Peter > Thanks! > > Satoshi > From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Nov 26 20:31:07 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA27357 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 20:31:07 -0800 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA27352 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 20:31:01 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA00798; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 20:30:37 -0800 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 20:30:37 -0800 Message-Id: <199511270430.UAA00798@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: peter@jhome.DIALix.COM CC: ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Peter Wemm on Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:47:18 +0800 (WST)) Subject: Re: Repository copy request: (part of) ports/net -> ports/www From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * > Thanks....can you copy utils/Makefile into misc/Makefile too? (Sorry * > I forgot to ask this the first time....) * * Done... Thanks, I fixed the Makefiles, the CATEGORIES lines I missed, and committed the latest INDEX (I did that from thud...sorry). The ports reorginazation is now complete. If there is something wrong, please let me know. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Nov 26 21:05:14 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA01053 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 21:05:14 -0800 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA01014 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 21:05:07 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA01659; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 21:04:17 -0800 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 21:04:17 -0800 Message-Id: <199511270504.VAA01659@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: peter@jhome.DIALix.COM CC: ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Peter Wemm on Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:24:23 +0800 (WST)) Subject: Re: Repository copy request: (part of) ports/net -> ports/www From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * I decided to get lazy and write a script for the "special case" of the * non-tagged ports heirachy. Boy, am I glad Satoshi slapped me back to my * senses when I suggested he branch the 2.1 tree rather than freeze.. Yeah, it's the very nature of the ports tree that things move around a lot...we often discover what we did was not a good idea, new categories are born from overflowing parents, etc.... * BTW, I dont know how much of an issue it is to have a permanently * buildable ports tree, but I can move rather than copy the files all in * the same step. This would leave the SUBDIR tree broken.... Well, that's not much of a problem, it's not as important to have a buildable ports tree as the src tree (and that thing is often broken too :p). I thought the reason was more in the line of two people having to make a mistake to screw up the tree (which I didn't really understand anyway). Assuming it won't break anything for people who have things checked out (and I don't think it will), I think we can do it that way next time. The Gunslinger From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Nov 26 22:02:57 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA05273 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 22:02:57 -0800 Received: from jhome.DIALix.COM (jhome.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA05264 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 22:02:36 -0800 Received: (from peter@localhost) by jhome.DIALix.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA22714; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:00:44 +0800 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:00:44 +0800 (WST) From: Peter Wemm To: Satoshi Asami cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Repository copy request: (part of) ports/net -> ports/www In-Reply-To: <199511270504.VAA01659@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 26 Nov 1995, Satoshi Asami wrote: > * BTW, I dont know how much of an issue it is to have a permanently > * buildable ports tree, but I can move rather than copy the files all in > * the same step. This would leave the SUBDIR tree broken.... > > Well, that's not much of a problem, it's not as important to have a > buildable ports tree as the src tree (and that thing is often broken > too :p). That's what I was thinking. I almost always build ports individually anyway, and I imagine it would be relatively rare for somebody to do a 'make all' from the top level ports tree... (I could be wrong though). I think the most frequent use og the extensive SUBDIR lists would be people making distributuions (eg: you.. :-) and people working for or from releases. > I thought the reason was more in the line of two people having to make > a mistake to screw up the tree (which I didn't really understand > anyway). Assuming it won't break anything for people who have things > checked out (and I don't think it will), I think we can do it that way > next time. There's some ups and downs of this. on the positive side: 1) We skip the *large* CTM deltas as a result of the files being recreated in the Attic, only to be removed again later. 2) Things are cleaner as a result 3) cvs runs faster (less files to deal with). 4) cvs will still to the "right thing" and delete the unmodified checked out files, **providing** the directories are there still for a while. 5) less repository bloat. on the down side: 1) if a repository file disappears from under you while you've got a modified checked out copy, you can't easily get a 'cvs diff'. This is not so bad, because in all cases where we're doing repository copies/moves in "ports", there's a new location. You can simply "mv" the modified file to the new location manually and continue. 2) we dont have quite as detailed a history.. But we're already not concerning ourselves with that for ports in general. 3) umm.. I can't think of any others right now.. :-) -Peter > The Gunslinger > From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Nov 26 23:00:56 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA07578 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 23:00:56 -0800 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA07561 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 23:00:49 -0800 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id GAA03800; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 06:52:24 GMT From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199511270652.GAA03800@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Proposal 3: Non-executable file in *_DEPEND To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 06:52:23 +0000 () Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, asami@cs.berkeley.edu, ports@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <1140.817203915@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Nov 24, 95 01:05:15 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 5728 Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard stands accused of saying: > > > *laugh* - but you get what I mean though? Or should I have said > > "for FTP, just grab enough of the file to pull out the install script, > > which should be first in the wrapper" ? > > My real problem with that approach is that it has these icky > hard-coded constraints in there. Magic constants always get me into > trouble, and assuming that the installation data will always be 10K or > less just strikes me as bad. I'd much rather go to two files than > accept such a hack solution, that's for sure. Make me a better > offer.. :-) Ok, how about a clearer explanation 8) The installer starts FTPing the file. As it comes in, it verifies that it's getting a tar archive. It also verifies that the first file in the archive is called +INSTALL (or whatever), and keeps reading until it's got all of it. It then summarily closes the FTP connection (a la Netscape et al.) On resumption, it could well adopt the technique that ncftp uses for resuming a file, to avoid pulling the INSTALL script again. > For one, I would need to feel really confident in the "team" that was > put together - confident that each resource within it was going to see > it through and not just wander off in the middle or get jerked away > suddenly. Those sorts of occurances make you just want to throw up > your hands and give up on the entire concept of group development, and > I've experienced such occurances in the past. If a group formed here > which started looking like a truly credible R&D team, it would have > a big effect on my outlook. Without offering people a salary (and even that's not always enough 8), you can't expect a guarantee of that. I think it would be fair to say that almost everyone interested in this thread has a 'real job' that they need to keep in order to, amongst other things, pay for the hardware on which they might perform such work. Everyone knows what 'real jobs' do to you 8(. I don't know how to resolve that one. What would make a group start to look "truly credible" in your eyes? > So while I'd be happy to sort of direct traffic at the top, the actual > technical piece I chop off is probably going to be whatever piece I > happen to think is cool. If my back's to the wall I'm more likely to > just beat a feature into sysinstall or pkg_install these days, so that > motivation is out. :-) Understood. This, in perspective with my understanding of your background, is just fine, providing the coding grunts can be found 8) > This means that I'm likely to be very very opinionated about any > system that evolves here. I have a very definite picture in my mind Good! Somebody has to. > It would be a very expedient solution with a fairly high return, and > even if Ctk turns out to be too badly broken to use, well, then > Michael gets his wish and we start making getting into X a higher > priority - at least we know that Tk works well. Don't get me wrong, if I thought we could get MGR up more easily than X, then I'd advocate it 8) I just think that the days of the text-based installer being K00L are numbered, and the 'tooliness' of a set of bits based on the predominant windowing system (for reuse in administration tools, or whatever) can't be ignored. > The other big advantage to TCL is that I know it pretty well, I know And you can expect to find grunts who know it or can learn it, and there's a ton of code out there for it, and and and... > Can you write a setup program for X that probes for mouse type (this > is easy to do - there are standard interrogation sequences that the > XFree86 people know and can tell you), presents a table of monitors I've written mouse firmware, so this makes me queasy, but if this is what it takes to be credible 8) How's the PS/2 mouse support for the GENERIC kernel, on this one? > and graphics cards, tests the server and gets the user to feedback on > whether or not they saw whatever test pattern was put up, returning > them to the setup program until they do. Ok. > xf86config is just too horrible to contemplate, and looking at Xsetup Agreed. > After you did such a good job with userconfig, I'd say that xf86config > will be a piece of cake! :-) There's a word for that sort of comment 8) > Ah, the forms interface perspective. I guess you're right about this, > though I'd like some real-time callback ability on the individual > subcomponents this time, not the static libdialog crud which never let > me say "if these two are on, turn that one OFF!" for callback checks. > > If we can meet in the middle here, I think taking the forms approach > is the right basic way to go. Just don't make it so high level that > my forms become "dumb" like the libdialog objects. I've been beating this around in my head since you started mentioning callbacks - the purist approach is, of course, that a form should not be _able_ to contain contradictory data, and that if it does, there is a shortcoming in the forms interpreter or in the form as presented. Dilbert knows about purists, and I tend to agree. I can see a simple way of doing callbacks while still sticking to the connected-via-pipe model, and on reflection, I have no qualms about the idea at all. After all, the idea is to write tools that help their user, not stuff them around 8) > Jordan -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 041-122-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Nov 27 13:09:17 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA28052 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:09:17 -0800 Received: from twitch.io.org (root@twitch.io.org [198.133.36.152]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA28045 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:09:12 -0800 Received: from flinch (flinch.io.org [198.133.36.153]) by twitch.io.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA17869; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 16:08:43 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 16:08:12 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Tao X-Sender: taob@flinch To: Chuck Robey cc: FREEBSD-PORTS-L Subject: Re: The GIMP beta on 2.1.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 26 Nov 1995, Chuck Robey wrote: > > Couldn't you post a copy of the static version on incoming on freefall? > I'd really love to see this. Okay, it's in freefall's incoming directory now: -rw-r--r-- 1 201 201 1072 Nov 27 21:05 gimp-0.5b-freebsd.README -rw-r--r-- 1 201 201 806976 Nov 27 21:02 gimp-0.5b-freebsd.tgz I'd like to hear from 2.0.5 and earlier users if they have problems with this binary (compiled under 2.1.0, linked against Motif 2.0). -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org) Systems Administrator, Internex Online Inc. "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Nov 27 14:24:34 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA04793 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:24:34 -0800 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA04780 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:24:29 -0800 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA08023 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:24:16 -0800 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id XAA11902; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 23:21:14 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA13937; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 23:21:13 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA07093; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 23:17:54 +0100 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199511272217.XAA07093@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Wine and FreeBSD To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 23:17:53 +0100 (MET) Cc: julian@ref.tfs.com (Julian Elischer) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199511270932.BAA20456@ref.tfs.com> from "Julian Elischer" at Nov 27, 95 01:32:13 am X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 537 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Julian Elischer wrote: > > BUT > > you can'r access any files.... > any attempt to access a file leaves the little hourglass on the screen The major thing that i realized when using Wine: they bypass the window manager. This is what X-people call ``anti-social'', and it causes some ill side-effects, too (like a black top-left corner, forgot which was causing this). -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Nov 27 17:12:10 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA17421 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:12:10 -0800 Received: from chemserv.umd.edu (chemserv.umd.edu [129.2.64.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA17359 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:12:04 -0800 Received: from latte.eng.umd.edu (latte.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.15]) by chemserv.umd.edu (8.7.2/8.7) with ESMTP id UAA08736 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:11:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by latte.eng.umd.edu (8.7.2/8.6.4) id UAA19417; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:11:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:11:57 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@latte.eng.umd.edu To: FreeBSD-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: misc/colorls Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I notice that colorls DEPENDS on ncftp2.2. Is this really necessary? It seems a little overkill ... ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Nov 27 19:48:32 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA28653 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 19:48:32 -0800 Received: from forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU (forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.33.75]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA28648 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 19:48:24 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA25824; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 19:48:20 -0800 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 19:48:20 -0800 Message-Id: <199511280348.TAA25824@forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU> To: chuckr@glue.umd.edu CC: FreeBSD-ports@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Chuck Robey on Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:11:57 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: misc/colorls From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk * I notice that colorls DEPENDS on ncftp2.2. Is this really necessary? It * seems a little overkill ... Well, it FETCH_DEPENDS on ncftp, which means it is used for fetching only (i.e., not if you are using the package). And yes it is necessary, the stock ncftp can't handle the "pack up on-the-fly" option of wu-ftpd.... :< Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Nov 28 01:29:34 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA19719 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 01:29:34 -0800 Received: from nanolon.gun.de (nanolon.gun.de [192.109.159.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA19714 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 01:29:17 -0800 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by nanolon.gun.de (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) id KAA06796; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:16:42 +0100 Received: from wup.de by wup-gate with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #2) id m0tHRs7-0007rLC; Mon, 20 Nov 95 09:46 MET Received: from sunny.wup.de by wup.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23627; Mon, 20 Nov 95 09:34:01 +0100 Received: by sunny.wup.de (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06775; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 09:38:08 +0100 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 09:38:08 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm Message-Id: <9511200838.AA06775@sunny.wup.de> To: mi@acs.bu.edu Subject: Re: Printing on a DeskJet from FreeBSD Cc: ports@freebsd.org, andreas@knobel.gun.de X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Dear Andreas Klemm! On 26 Oct 1995 11:06:05 GMT you wrote: > > |[ speaking about apsfilter lpd input filter ] > > |Don't know where the problem is, you mention. I had _none_ of your > |problems described above ... If you want to make an enhancement, then > |please describe to problem more precise to me. Perhaps a logfile of > |that what's going wron in your opineon ?! Thanks. > > Well, will try the package. May be I just have an old version? But > it had echo -e in it (not available option on FreeBSD), pr -f (on Linux > it is the same as -F, on FreeBSD there is only -F), etc. apsfilter is now available for FreeBSD as port. I recommend you to use apsfilter-4.9.2 from ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/---- Please look, where the port / package files reside ! > |Please, don't contribute modified apsfilter versions, without contacting > |me first. I'm the one and only (as the author of this package) who > |makes official releases ... Easy to guess why ... I'm the one who > |gets the whole lotta e-mail, if something is going wrong ... ! > > No-no!!!! (-; Ok ;-) > |: Also, I never tested it for PostSrcipt-printing (ghostscript will not > |: compile without X installed)... > > |I think this is not true. But why don't you use precompiled FreeBSD > |packages ??? They run fine ! > > I like building things myself. Kind of a hobby (-: I'm pretty sure it > insists on presence of X-libraries, which I do not have. If you want to be so clever, to build the things yourself, then please don't ask me such trivial things, if there are a) ports available, there you can see, what has to be done, to get ghostscript running on FreeBSD ! b) binaries available, that do their Job ! Excuse me, but if there is help available for "the clueless" (;-) then please use that help, or what do you think for what purpose that work was done ? Get the ghostscript tar archive from the ports section, extract it in /usr/ports/whateverpath. Then you have something like /usr/ports/print/ghostscript-2.6.2/... the patches and scripts and files directory contains all the necessary diff to get it running. Maybe it assumes, too, that you need X11. Then please browse through the Makefile in work/ghostscript/ and look for the drivers that should be included ... simply remove the x11.drv or whatever it's called there ... It's not that difficult ... > > |Did you perhaps forget to comment out the x11 driver ???? Look into the > |makefile !!! > > I will.... It will definitively help. ;-) BTW: perhaps I should recommend, to create ports of ghostscriot 2 and 3 that don't contain X11 stuff ... So that people can use it as print filter without the need of having X11 installed ... ;-) Andreas /// From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Nov 28 04:06:44 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA01098 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 04:06:44 -0800 Received: from tulpi.interconnect.com.au (root@tulpi.interconnect.com.au [192.189.54.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA01085 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 04:06:35 -0800 Received: (from ahill@localhost) by tulpi.interconnect.com.au id XAA16316 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 23:04:39 +1100 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 23:04:38 +1100 (EST) From: Anthony Hill To: Brian Tao cc: Chuck Robey , FREEBSD-PORTS-L Subject: Re: The GIMP beta on 2.1.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'd like to hear from 2.0.5 and earlier users if they have > problems with this binary (compiled under 2.1.0, linked against Motif > 2.0). Does not work on my system - 2.0.5R 12MB ram 30MB swap. It starts up with :- ld.so: warning: libc.so.2.1: minor version < 2 expected, using it anyway Then the menu pops up (looks good), all the buttons and menus work great, and look good. I can pop up the exellent palette, but if I choose "open" or "new" - BLAM - it dumps core and dies with this message :- Xlib: extension "MIT-SHM" missing on display ":0.0". Bad system call (core dumped) Ah well - was looking good for a bit ! Any ideas ? - If you want I can send you the core. Note - I dont have Motif - just whatever Ver of XFree86 that came with 2.0.5 and olvwm. From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Nov 28 07:12:32 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA10812 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:12:32 -0800 Received: from cwbtr06.bsi.com.br ([200.250.250.23]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA10636 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:11:29 -0800 Received: (from lenzi@localhost) by cwbtr06.bsi.com.br (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA00199; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:13:50 GMT Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:13:49 +0000 () From: Sergio Lenzi To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: INGRES 8.9 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi all. Finaly the Ingres version 8.9 bugless (I hope) is in a USA site (freefall.cdrom.com) file names: ingresbin.tar.gz and ingressrc.tar.gz they are in package format.. Any questions, please mail me. Sergio de Almeida Lenzi. From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Nov 28 07:38:17 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA12581 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:38:17 -0800 Received: from mramirez.sy.yale.edu (mramirez.sy.yale.edu [130.132.57.207]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA12570 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:38:04 -0800 Received: (from mrami@localhost) by mramirez.sy.yale.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA07096; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:38:02 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:38:01 -0500 (EST) From: Marc Ramirez Reply-To: mrami@minerva.cis.yale.edu To: Satoshi Asami cc: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu, FreeBSD-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: misc/colorls In-Reply-To: <199511280348.TAA25824@forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, Satoshi Asami wrote: > * I notice that colorls DEPENDS on ncftp2.2. Is this really necessary? It > * seems a little overkill ... > > Well, it FETCH_DEPENDS on ncftp, which means it is used for fetching > only (i.e., not if you are using the package). And yes it is > necessary, the stock ncftp can't handle the "pack up on-the-fly" > option of wu-ftpd.... :< This works for me wih the old ncftp... # Usage: get hostname filename get() { if [ \! -e `basename $2` ] then ( echo cd `dirname $2`; echo get `basename $2`; echo quit ) \ | ncftp -r -d 15 -V 0 $1 fi } Marc. From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Nov 28 08:02:06 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA14541 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 08:02:06 -0800 Received: from twirl.io.org (root@twirl.io.org [198.133.36.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA14533 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 08:01:53 -0800 Received: from flinch (flinch.io.org [198.133.36.153]) by twirl.io.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA20110; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:01:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:00:37 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Tao X-Sender: taob@flinch To: Anthony Hill cc: Chuck Robey , FREEBSD-PORTS-L Subject: Re: The GIMP beta on 2.1.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, Anthony Hill wrote: > > ld.so: warning: libc.so.2.1: minor version < 2 expected, using it anyway Hmmm, my /usr/lib contains these shared libs: -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 403106 Jul 3 1994 libc.so.1.1 -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 466907 Jan 25 1995 libc.so.2.0 -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 435248 Nov 16 04:40 libc.so.2.2 I wonder why I have 2.2 and not 2.1 (I'm running 2.1.0-RELEASE)? > Xlib: extension "MIT-SHM" missing on display ":0.0". > Bad system call (core dumped) Ah yes... you need the shared memory extensions in your kernel, and your X server must also support it. 2.1.0 kernels come with the SysV shared memory, semaphores and message-passing queues enabled by default. I should have made note of that in the README.FreeBSD. While you're recompiling the kernel, it would be a good idea to increase the maximum shared memory segment size while you're at it. The GIMP documentation suggests 32 megabytes (!), and I think FreeBSD defaults to 4 megabytes (1024 SHMMAXPGS * 4K NBPG size). Try increasing SHMMAXPGS to 2048 or 4096 in your kernel config file (seems safer than changing SHMMAX directly). -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org) Systems Administrator, Internex Online Inc. "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Nov 28 08:16:31 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA15554 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 08:16:31 -0800 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA15548 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 08:16:23 -0800 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA16195 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 08:16:18 -0800 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA03607; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:16:16 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:16:16 -0500 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9511281616.AA03607@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: ports@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Port/package of WorkMan-1.3 now available! In-Reply-To: <199511261310.FAA10082@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> References: <199511261310.FAA10082@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk < Also, it complains about not being able to write to /var/run, we can > solve it by making it setuid-bin but I'm not sure if it's safe enough > to do that. No program should run with the identity of `bin'. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Nov 28 08:54:44 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA18301 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 08:54:44 -0800 Received: from covina.lightside.com (covina.lightside.com [198.81.209.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA18295 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 08:54:41 -0800 Received: by covina.lightside.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0tKTIi-0009i7C; Tue, 28 Nov 95 08:54 PST Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 08:54:35 -0800 (PST) From: Jake Hamby To: Anthony Hill cc: Brian Tao , Chuck Robey , FREEBSD-PORTS-L Subject: Re: The GIMP beta on 2.1.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, Anthony Hill wrote: > > I'd like to hear from 2.0.5 and earlier users if they have > > problems with this binary (compiled under 2.1.0, linked against Motif > > 2.0). > > Does not work on my system - 2.0.5R 12MB ram 30MB swap. > > It starts up with :- > > ld.so: warning: libc.so.2.1: minor version < 2 expected, using it anyway > > Then the menu pops up (looks good), all the buttons and menus work great, > and look good. I can pop up the exellent palette, but if I choose "open" > or "new" - BLAM - it dumps core and dies with this message :- > > Xlib: extension "MIT-SHM" missing on display ":0.0". > Bad system call (core dumped) > > Ah well - was looking good for a bit ! > > Any ideas ? - If you want I can send you the core. I haven't tested this program yet, but I do know one thing that might be a problem with your FreeBSD system that could cause this. Do you have the "SYSV_SHM" option defined in your kernel? If not, then the MIT_SHM extension won't work, which could explain why it crashed. You can check if this extension is in your kernel by running the "ipcs" command. ---Jake From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Nov 28 10:43:01 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA25583 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:43:01 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA25578 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:42:59 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA01373; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:41:51 -0800 To: Brian Tao cc: Anthony Hill , Chuck Robey , FREEBSD-PORTS-L Subject: Re: The GIMP beta on 2.1.0-RELEASE In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:00:37 EST." Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:41:51 -0800 Message-ID: <1371.817584111@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I wonder why I have 2.2 and not 2.1 (I'm running 2.1.0-RELEASE)? Because shared library revision numbers don't track OS revision numbers (and never did, except occasionally by coincidence). Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Nov 28 10:54:17 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA26118 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:54:17 -0800 Received: from tetsuo.communique.net (Tetsuo.Communique.Net [204.27.64.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA26102 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:54:06 -0800 Received: from ryu.communique.net (Ryu.Communique.Net [204.27.64.11]) by tetsuo.communique.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA17898 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:53:33 -0600 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:53:31 -0600 (CST) From: Raul Zighelboim To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Compiling ProComm under FreeBSD 2.1 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to compile pcomm2.0.1 under FreeBSD 2.1; every attempt fails. Is this something trivial and I just have my system messed up, or there is something I should know before trying ... ? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Raul Zighelboim e-mail: mango@communique.net Communique Inc. Tel: 504.527.6200 Technical Specialist Fax: 504.527.6030 From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Nov 28 11:48:36 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA29212 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:48:36 -0800 Received: from netcom11.netcom.com (root@netcom11.netcom.com [192.100.81.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA29205 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:48:30 -0800 Received: from Ðãs’³6 Òsá$6¢ÒsP by netcom11.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id LAA23359; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:46:49 -0800 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:46:49 -0800 Message-Id: <199511281946.LAA23359@netcom11.netcom.com> X-Mailer: NCSA Mosaic/2.0 (Windows x86) X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/ports/news.html From: rjiang@akbs.com (Ruiyuan Jiang) To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Setting our own News server under CNews Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi, I am trying to setup our own Usenet News server with CNews (maybe I need nntp transport, nntp-1.5.11.5.tgz, I am not sure)under FreeBSD v2.1, 486 DX-20, 20 MB RAM. The reference book that I have is "Managing uucp and Usenet" from O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. After I downloaded the software, cnews-cr.g.tgz (under packages-2.1 directory),from ftp.freebsd.org. I used "pkg_add cnews-cr.g.tgz" to install it. The current problem that I face is how to set it up so we can downloaded the internet news from our internet service provider NetCom through 56 kbps Frame Realy line (not uucp link). According to the book that I mentioned above, I need to modify several files under /usr/local/lib/news directory. 1. active, this file I can get from NetCom for first time setup. Can I use: cat active.netcom | awk '{printf("%s 000000000 000000000 %s\n", $1, $4) }' > active to become my own actual "active" file? 2. mailname, currently this file contains: no.such.domain. should I put in our own domain name: akbs.com and remark that line? 3. mailpaths, should I remark the two lines and two lines: backbone %s internet %s Also in the organization file, should I put in my company name in it? Thanks in advance. Ruiyuan Jiang System Administrator Advantage kbs, Inc. rjiang@akbs.com (908) 287-2236 From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Nov 28 12:13:52 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA01274 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:13:52 -0800 Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (ix-sb1-04.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.36]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA01269 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:13:45 -0800 Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA09568; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:16:55 -0800 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:16:53 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: Anthony Hill cc: Brian Tao , Chuck Robey , FREEBSD-PORTS-L Subject: Re: The GIMP beta on 2.1.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, Anthony Hill wrote: > Xlib: extension "MIT-SHM" missing on display ":0.0". > Bad system call (core dumped) > > Any ideas ? - If you want I can send you the core. Yes, you haven't compiled in MIT Shared Memory extensions into your kenrel. Recompile it with: options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG in your kernel config file. Then try again. Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Nov 28 13:15:55 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA06021 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:15:55 -0800 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA06011 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:15:44 -0800 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id WAA07073; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 22:14:55 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id WAA26359; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 22:14:54 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA11248; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 21:58:55 +0100 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199511282058.VAA11248@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Netscape 2.0b3 To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 21:58:55 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199511280837.TAA19625@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Nov 28, 95 07:37:39 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 402 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Bruce Evans wrote: > > There are several binary editors in ports which > might be able to handle this better (a binary editor should be able to > edit /dev/mem and /dev/rsd0...). To the best of my knowledge, only bpatch can do this. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Nov 28 13:29:58 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA06948 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:29:58 -0800 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA06943 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:29:52 -0800 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id VAA11330 ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 21:50:23 +0100 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id VAA13255 ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 21:50:22 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.7.1/keltia-uucp-2.6) id VAA00425; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 21:29:28 +0100 (MET) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199511282029.VAA00425@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Re: The GIMP beta on 2.1.0-RELEASE To: ahill@interconnect.com.au (Anthony Hill) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 21:29:28 +0100 (MET) Cc: taob@io.org, chuckr@glue.umd.edu, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Anthony Hill" at Nov 28, 95 11:04:38 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1378 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk It seems that Anthony Hill said: > Xlib: extension "MIT-SHM" missing on display ":0.0". > Bad system call (core dumped) > > Ah well - was looking good for a bit ! > > Any ideas ? - If you want I can send you the core. You probably don't have SYSSHM defiend in the kernel config. file. It is necessary for the MIT-SHM Xserver extention. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #7: Mon Nov 6 21:08:06 MET 1995 From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Nov 28 13:33:02 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA07256 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:33:02 -0800 Received: from chemserv.umd.edu (chemserv.umd.edu [129.2.64.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA07250 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:32:55 -0800 Received: from mocha.eng.umd.edu (mocha.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.16]) by chemserv.umd.edu (8.7.2/8.7) with ESMTP id QAA23093; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 16:32:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by mocha.eng.umd.edu (8.7.2/8.6.4) id QAA12013; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 16:32:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 16:32:49 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@mocha.eng.umd.edu To: Satoshi Asami cc: FreeBSD-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: misc/colorls In-Reply-To: <199511280348.TAA25824@forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, Satoshi Asami wrote: > * I notice that colorls DEPENDS on ncftp2.2. Is this really necessary? It > * seems a little overkill ... > > Well, it FETCH_DEPENDS on ncftp, which means it is used for fetching > only (i.e., not if you are using the package). And yes it is > necessary, the stock ncftp can't handle the "pack up on-the-fly" > option of wu-ftpd.... :< I'm not sure what that option is, is the one where you can give the name of the directory.tar.gz and have the distant end tar and gzip it for you? I know that does work, I just tried it under old version 1.7.1 (the one on my Univ. acct). Anyhow, assuming I'm wrong on what that option means, I have the source for colorls resident on my system, but the fetch breaks anyhow, looking for a utility (ncftp2) that it wouldn't even need if it existed. Is this correct? Shouldn't that depends test be made after it looks locally for the sources? Finally, I setenv'ed NO_DEPENDS so I could check the next step in spite of my lack of ncftp2, and the build failed, it was trying to patch a directory that doesn't exist: patch: **** can't cd to /usr/ports/misc/colorls/work/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/bin/ls: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 That directory sure doesn't exist on my machine, does yours have one? > > Satoshi > ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Nov 28 13:36:42 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA07572 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:36:42 -0800 Received: from bacchus.eng.umd.edu (bacchus.eng.umd.edu [129.2.94.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA07562 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:36:37 -0800 Received: from mocha.eng.umd.edu (mocha.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.16]) by bacchus.eng.umd.edu (8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id QAA04648; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 16:36:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by mocha.eng.umd.edu (8.7.2/8.6.4) id QAA12086; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 16:36:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 16:36:04 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@mocha.eng.umd.edu To: Brian Tao cc: FREEBSD-PORTS-L Subject: Re: The GIMP beta on 2.1.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, Brian Tao wrote: > On Sun, 26 Nov 1995, Chuck Robey wrote: > > > > Couldn't you post a copy of the static version on incoming on freefall? > > I'd really love to see this. > > Okay, it's in freefall's incoming directory now: > > -rw-r--r-- 1 201 201 1072 Nov 27 21:05 gimp-0.5b-freebsd.README > -rw-r--r-- 1 201 201 806976 Nov 27 21:02 gimp-0.5b-freebsd.tgz > > I'd like to hear from 2.0.5 and earlier users if they have > problems with this binary (compiled under 2.1.0, linked against Motif > 2.0). Thanks for posting this, Brian. You're right, this is an incredible paint application, works just dandy under -current > -- > Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org) > Systems Administrator, Internex Online Inc. > "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" > > ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Nov 28 17:32:36 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA27837 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:32:36 -0800 Received: from forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU (forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.33.75]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA27832 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:32:31 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA27616; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:32:27 -0800 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:32:27 -0800 Message-Id: <199511290132.RAA27616@forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU> To: wollman@lcs.mit.edu CC: ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <9511281616.AA03607@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> (wollman@lcs.mit.edu) Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Port/package of WorkMan-1.3 now available! From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * No program should run with the identity of `bin'. Ok, suid-root then. What's the policy for programs updating /var/run/*.pid, by the way? Is it reasonable to have a port suid-root so that it can write there? Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Nov 28 17:36:00 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA27932 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:36:00 -0800 Received: from forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU (forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.33.75]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA27926 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:35:50 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA27624; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:35:41 -0800 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:35:41 -0800 Message-Id: <199511290135.RAA27624@forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU> To: mango@communique.net CC: ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Raul Zighelboim on Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:53:31 -0600 (CST)) Subject: Re: Compiling ProComm under FreeBSD 2.1 From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * I am trying to compile pcomm2.0.1 under FreeBSD 2.1; every attempt fails. * Is this something trivial and I just have my system messed up, or there * is something I should know before trying ... ? We need a little more information than this. ;) If you can at least send us (1) where you got the original source, (2) what modification you made, and (3) the error message (cut & paste will be fine), we can take a look. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Nov 28 17:47:29 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA28622 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:47:29 -0800 Received: from forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU (forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.33.75]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA28614 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:47:23 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA27633; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:47:02 -0800 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:47:02 -0800 Message-Id: <199511290147.RAA27633@forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com CC: taob@io.org, ahill@interconnect.com.au, chuckr@glue.umd.edu, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <1371.817584111@time.cdrom.com> (jkh@time.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: The GIMP beta on 2.1.0-RELEASE From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" * > I wonder why I have 2.2 and not 2.1 (I'm running 2.1.0-RELEASE)? * * Because shared library revision numbers don't track OS revision numbers * (and never did, except occasionally by coincidence). Well, that's true but the real reason is: "libc's version number 2.1 was already used in 2.0.5R"! :) The thing about shlib version numbers is that we don't bump them if we don't have to. There are things (added functions, interface changes) that require either the minor or major number to be bumped. We synchronized everything to 2.0 when 2.0R came out, and some numbers were bumped further since. If you take a look at /usr/lib of a 2.1R system, you'll see a few 3.0's (no backward compatibility), some 2.1's (backward compatible with 2.0), one 2.2 (that's libc -- backward compatible with 2.1 and 2.0) and the rest are still 2.0's. How far we bump the major number (or where we start) is a matter of taste, there are examples where it seems like the number is directly related to the OS or underlying package's version (like XFree86...I think they use 6.0 to indicate release 6 of X11). (ok, this was not exactly a "ports" question...but I wanted everyone to know what this is about, this comes up in the ports' own shared libraries as well....) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Nov 28 22:42:06 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA15928 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 22:42:06 -0800 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA15907 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 22:41:58 -0800 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id HAA15270 ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 07:41:49 +0100 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id HAA14554 ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 07:41:49 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.7.1/keltia-uucp-2.6) id AAA00416; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 00:48:31 +0100 (MET) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199511282348.AAA00416@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Re: Setting our own News server under CNews To: rjiang@akbs.com (Ruiyuan Jiang) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 00:48:31 +0100 (MET) Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199511281946.LAA23359@netcom11.netcom.com> from "Ruiyuan Jiang" at Nov 28, 95 11:46:49 am X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1378 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk It seems that Ruiyuan Jiang said: > I am trying to setup our own Usenet News server with CNews (maybe I need > nntp transport, nntp-1.5.11.5.tgz, I am not sure)under FreeBSD v2.1, 486 I cannot really help you on Cnews but do yourself a favor: get INN. Read the installation docs, compile it and configure it. INN is much better than Cnews, especially for NNTP. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #7: Mon Nov 6 21:08:06 MET 1995 From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Nov 29 01:36:29 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA24826 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 01:36:29 -0800 Received: from sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (root@sivka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.125.68.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA24786 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 01:35:59 -0800 Received: from elvisti.kiev.ua (uucp@localhost) by sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (Sendmail 8.who.cares/5) with UUCP id KAA20548 for ports@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:49:46 +0200 Received: from office.elvisti.kiev.ua (office.elvisti.kiev.ua [193.125.28.33]) by spider2.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) with ESMTP id JAA18141 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:54:33 +0200 Received: (from stesin@localhost) by office.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) id JAA14332; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:54:32 +0200 From: "Andrew V. Stesin" Message-Id: <199511290754.JAA14332@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> Subject: Re: Setting our own News server under CNews To: rjiang@akbs.com (Ruiyuan Jiang) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:54:31 +0200 (EET) Cc: ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199511281946.LAA23359@netcom11.netcom.com> from "Ruiyuan Jiang" at Nov 28, 95 11:46:49 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha5] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2156 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, # I am trying to setup our own Usenet News server with CNews (maybe I need # nntp transport, nntp-1.5.11.5.tgz, I am not sure)under FreeBSD v2.1, 486 # DX-20, 20 MB RAM. Works Ok for us since old 1.1 days. # current problem that I face is how to set it up so we can downloaded the # internet news from our internet service provider NetCom through 56 kbps # Frame Realy line (not uucp link). According to the book that I mentioned # above, I need to modify several files under /usr/local/lib/news # directory. # # 1. active, this file I can get from NetCom for first time setup. Can I # use: cat active.netcom | awk '{printf("%s 000000000 000000000 %s\n", $1, # $4) }' > active # # to become my own actual "active" file? There is a script 'mergeactive' in ${NEWSBIN}/maint subdir. Look at it and use it. Was Ok last time I need it. # 2. mailname, currently this file contains: no.such.domain. should I put # in our own domain name: akbs.com and remark that line? Yes, you should put a "Usenet reincarnation" of your machine name there. This means _not_ a canonical hostname of your box but a name which is known for Usenet community as a name of your news system. I'm not sure that remarking will work in this file. # 3. mailpaths, should I remark the two lines and two lines: # backbone %s # internet %s ? For example, for our internal news hierarchies here, they are elvisti.*, we have the following in the mailpath file: elvisti %s@elvisti.kiev.ua I.e. when someone posts to a moderated group elvisti.info.biz.ukr, a mail alias gets this posting for approval. What dows "backbone" and "internet" mean -- I'm confused here. # Also in the organization file, should I put in my company name in it? Why not? It might be appropriate. We did so, nothing bad happened. :-) # Thanks in advance. # Good luck! # Ruiyuan Jiang # System Administrator # Advantage kbs, Inc. # rjiang@akbs.com # (908) 287-2236 # -- With best regards -- Andrew Stesin. +380 (44) 2760188 +380 (44) 2713457 +380 (44) 2713560 An undocumented feature is a coding error. From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Nov 29 01:59:03 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA26407 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 01:59:03 -0800 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA26399 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 01:58:59 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id BAA01430; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 01:58:52 -0800 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 01:58:52 -0800 Message-Id: <199511290958.BAA01430@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: mrami@minerva.cis.yale.edu CC: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu, FreeBSD-ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Marc Ramirez on Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:38:01 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: misc/colorls From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * This works for me wih the old ncftp... * * # Usage: get hostname filename * * get() { * if [ \! -e `basename $2` ] * then * ( echo cd `dirname $2`; echo get `basename $2`; echo quit ) \ * | ncftp -r -d 15 -V 0 $1 * fi * } Yes, I know...in fact, I used to have a hack similar to this in place of FETCH_DEPENDS (note all three ports that use FETCH_DEPENDS are mine).... Well, I thought since there now is a mechanism to do this easier (easier as in standard Makefile targets and variables), I'd rather use it. Maybe it wasn't such a great idea after all. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Nov 29 02:38:58 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA29563 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 02:38:58 -0800 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA29557 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 02:38:52 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id CAA01516; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 02:38:44 -0800 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 02:38:44 -0800 Message-Id: <199511291038.CAA01516@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: chuckr@glue.umd.edu CC: FreeBSD-ports@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Chuck Robey on Tue, 28 Nov 1995 16:32:49 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: misc/colorls From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk * I'm not sure what that option is, is the one where you can give the name * of the directory.tar.gz and have the distant end tar and gzip it for you? * I know that does work, I just tried it under old version 1.7.1 (the one * on my Univ. acct). Try it by giving it the whole path in the command line, not in interactive mode. That's when it breaks. * Anyhow, assuming I'm wrong on what that option means, I have the source * for colorls resident on my system, but the fetch breaks anyhow, looking * for a utility (ncftp2) that it wouldn't even need if it existed. Is this * correct? Shouldn't that depends test be made after it looks locally for * the sources? The problem is, the FETCH_DEPENDS variable is supposed to list things that are required somewhere during the "fetch" phase -- which contains not only the actual fetching, but checking if the file exists or not, etc. We never know what people might want to do inside their custom "do-fetch" target. But I agree that it's kinda screwed right now, maybe FETCH_DEPENDS wasn't such a great idea. We can deal with your particular complaint by violating our design principle of "no dependency checking except in skeleton targets" and move it inside do-fetch, so that it will be done only when a file is not found, but that is a major breach of orthogonality in the design of bsd.port.mk (and orthogonality is about the only thing that is holding this beast together -- at least for me). Also, an additional problem with these "on-the-fly" tarballs is that there is no fixed checksum (we never know when people will change the compression option on the ftp site, for instance), which can give you a problem like below. We can just move these stuff (those that use FETCH_DEPENDS -- all three are mine, and they are pretty small) to freefall's LOCAL_PORTS area and do away with FETCH_DEPENDS. Everyone seems to have his own solution to this problem, for example Jean-Marc uses a small perl script called "ftpget" to fetch files from the CTAN archive (which also does on-the-fly packing). There also is this issue of multiple subdirectories having same names, so the fetch script has to be able to save the file in a name other than ".tar.gz". Maybe we can write a small wrapper to ncftp, which will solve all these problems, and put it in the base system (so no FETCH_DEPENDS). (No Jean-Marc, I'm not going to give up on ncftp -- the "progression meter" is too cool to pass up, and is actually *useful* for people like me (sitting behind phone lines). ;) * Finally, I setenv'ed NO_DEPENDS so I could check the next step in spite * of my lack of ncftp2, and the build failed, it was trying to patch a * directory that doesn't exist: * * patch: **** can't cd to * /usr/ports/misc/colorls/work/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/bin/ls: No * such file or directory * *** Error code 1 * * That directory sure doesn't exist on my machine, does yours have one? Yes, you have an old tarball, or you fetched it in interactive mode in ncftp (see, no checksum!). Try to get the one in ftp.freebsd.org's "distfiles/" dir, that one should work. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Nov 29 02:59:56 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA01286 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 02:59:56 -0800 Received: from mramirez.sy.yale.edu (mramirez.sy.yale.edu [130.132.57.207]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA01280 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 02:59:50 -0800 Received: (from mrami@localhost) by mramirez.sy.yale.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id FAA11952; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 05:59:47 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 05:59:46 -0500 (EST) From: Marc Ramirez Reply-To: mrami@minerva.cis.yale.edu To: Satoshi Asami cc: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu, FreeBSD-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: misc/colorls In-Reply-To: <199511290958.BAA01430@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Satoshi Asami wrote: > Well, I thought since there now is a mechanism to do this easier > (easier as in standard Makefile targets and variables), I'd rather use > it. Maybe it wasn't such a great idea after all. It don't make no never mind to me, just spittin' off rapid-fire solutions to everyday problems. Marc. From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Nov 29 04:53:10 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA12398 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 04:53:10 -0800 Received: from cabri.obs-besancon.fr (cabri.obs-besancon.fr [193.52.184.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA12379 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 04:53:03 -0800 Received: by cabri.obs-besancon.fr (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA03916; Wed, 29 Nov 95 13:52:47 +0100 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 95 13:52:47 +0100 Message-Id: <9511291252.AA03916@cabri.obs-besancon.fr> From: Jean-Marc Zucconi To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu Cc: chuckr@glue.umd.edu, FreeBSD-ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199511291038.CAA01516@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> (asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Subject: Re: misc/colorls X-Mailer: Emacs Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Satoshi Asami writes: > Maybe we can write a small wrapper to ncftp, which will solve all > these problems, and put it in the base system (so no FETCH_DEPENDS). > (No Jean-Marc, I'm not going to give up on ncftp -- the "progression > meter" is too cool to pass up, and is actually *useful* for people > like me (sitting behind phone lines). ;) I am also behind a phone line (and sometimes at 2400bps) :-) I wrote a ftpget replacement, and it has a (primitive) progression indicator, it should work if you are behind a firewall, and is compatible with ncftp. The program is very simple since it uses the ftp code in src/release/sysintall/. Interested? Jean-Marc _____________________________________________________________________________ Jean-Marc Zucconi Observatoire de Besancon F 25010 Besancon cedex PGP Key: finger jmz@cabri.obs-besancon.fr ============================================================================= From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Nov 29 07:21:34 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA22401 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 07:21:34 -0800 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA22395 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 07:21:30 -0800 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA05964; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:21:26 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:21:26 -0500 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9511291521.AA05964@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Port/package of WorkMan-1.3 now available! In-Reply-To: <199511290132.RAA27616@forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU> References: <9511281616.AA03607@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <199511290132.RAA27616@forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU> Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk < * No program should run with the identity of `bin'. > Ok, suid-root then. That's just as bad. > What's the policy for programs updating /var/run/*.pid, by the way? > Is it reasonable to have a port suid-root so that it can write there? If it's not something that is intended to be run by root AND root ONLY, it has no business writing something into /var/run. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Nov 29 13:37:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA22497 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:37:24 -0800 Received: from devnull.mpd.tandem.com (devnull.mpd.tandem.com [131.124.4.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA22482 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:37:18 -0800 Received: from olympus by devnull.mpd.tandem.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id PAA14179; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 15:36:37 -0600 Received: by olympus (4.1/TSS2.1) id AA19908; Wed, 29 Nov 95 15:36:45 CST From: faulkner@mpd.tandem.com (Boyd Faulkner) Message-Id: <9511292136.AA19908@olympus> Subject: supping the new ports dirs To: ports@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 15:36:44 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL17] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 368 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, When will the new ports directories be available via sup. I hate when sup removes the old ones but I can't get the new ones. :-( Thanks, Boyd -- _______________________________________________________________________ Boyd Faulkner - faulkner@isd.tandem.com - http://cactus.org/~faulkner _______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Nov 29 13:46:14 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA23240 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:46:14 -0800 Received: from netcom7.netcom.com (bugs@netcom7.netcom.com [192.100.81.115]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA23230 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:46:05 -0800 Received: by netcom7.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA12113; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:44:18 -0800 From: bugs@netcom.com (Mark Hittinger) Message-Id: <199511292144.NAA12113@netcom7.netcom.com> Subject: www port collection To: ports@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:44:18 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 152 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I can't seem to sup this. I get an invalid "release=current" for ports-www. Am I doing this right? Regards, Mark Hittinger Netcom bugs@netcom.com From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Nov 29 14:43:50 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA27897 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 14:43:50 -0800 Received: from westhill.cdrom.com (westhill.cdrom.com [192.216.223.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA27869 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 14:43:39 -0800 From: gpalmer@westhill.cdrom.com Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by westhill.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA08605; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 14:42:17 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: westhill.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: faulkner@mpd.tandem.com (Boyd Faulkner) cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: supping the new ports dirs In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 29 Nov 1995 15:36:44 CST." <9511292136.AA19908@olympus> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 14:42:15 -0800 Message-ID: <8603.817684935@westhill.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Boyd Faulkner wrote in message ID <9511292136.AA19908@olympus>: > Hi, > When will the new ports directories be available via sup. I hate when > sup removes the old ones but I can't get the new ones. :-( Oops. That should now be corrected. There are now ports-misc & ports-www sup targets which should work. Gary From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Nov 29 14:49:54 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA28404 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 14:49:54 -0800 Received: from westhill.cdrom.com (westhill.cdrom.com [192.216.223.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA28394 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 14:49:49 -0800 From: gpalmer@westhill.cdrom.com Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by westhill.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA08652; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 14:49:32 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: westhill.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: bugs@netcom.com (Mark Hittinger) cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: www port collection In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:44:18 PST." <199511292144.NAA12113@netcom7.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 14:49:31 -0800 Message-ID: <8650.817685371@westhill.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Mark Hittinger wrote in message ID <199511292144.NAA12113@netcom7.netcom.com>: > > I can't seem to sup this. I get an invalid "release=current" for ports-www. > > Am I doing this right? When did you try this? The ports-www collection only came online about 5 minutes ago... Gary From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Nov 29 15:02:11 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA29399 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 15:02:11 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA29394 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 15:02:07 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA03147; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 15:00:28 -0800 To: bugs@netcom.com (Mark Hittinger) cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: www port collection In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:44:18 PST." <199511292144.NAA12113@netcom7.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 15:00:28 -0800 Message-ID: <3145.817686028@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk ports-www? It's just "www" > > I can't seem to sup this. I get an invalid "release=current" for ports-www. > Am I doing this right? > > Regards, > > Mark Hittinger > Netcom > bugs@netcom.com From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Nov 29 16:42:05 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA07705 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 16:42:05 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA07698 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 16:41:58 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA03736; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 16:39:26 -0800 To: gpalmer@westhill.cdrom.com cc: faulkner@mpd.tandem.com (Boyd Faulkner), ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: supping the new ports dirs In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 29 Nov 1995 14:42:15 PST." <8603.817684935@westhill.cdrom.com> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 16:39:26 -0800 Message-ID: <3734.817691966@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Oh. *That* ports-www. Never mind! I thought he was trying to find the new "www" sup target.. :-( > Boyd Faulkner wrote in message ID > <9511292136.AA19908@olympus>: > > Hi, > > When will the new ports directories be available via sup. I hate when > > sup removes the old ones but I can't get the new ones. :-( > > Oops. > > That should now be corrected. There are now ports-misc & ports-www sup > targets which should work. > > Gary > From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Nov 30 00:44:44 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA08548 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 00:44:44 -0800 Received: from neptune.pristine.com.tw ([192.72.150.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA08539 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 00:44:38 -0800 Received: (from team_fbf@localhost) by neptune.pristine.com.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA21242 for ports@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 16:43:37 GMT From: ywliu Message-Id: <199511301643.QAA21242@neptune.pristine.com.tw> Subject: TIS Fireall Toolkit ? To: ports@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 16:43:37 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 251 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Do we have the TIS Firewall Toolkit ported ? I got the source and compiled on 2.05R, but somehow the plug-gw, a generic TCP wrapper mainly for NNTP, cannot work. I found out it may be the source code problem. It was fairly old. Yen-Wei Liu From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Nov 30 02:06:30 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA13646 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 02:06:30 -0800 Received: from wiley.muc.ditec.de (wiley.muc.ditec.de [194.120.126.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA13625 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 02:06:22 -0800 Received: from vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (ns042.munich.netsurf.de [194.64.166.42]) by wiley.muc.ditec.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA07990 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:04:47 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA16400; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 19:23:15 +0100 Message-Id: <199511291823.TAA16400@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> X-Authentication-Warning: vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Sergio Lenzi cc: hackers@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: INGRES 8.9 Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" X-mailer: EXMH version 1.6.4 10/10/95 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 28 Nov 1995 01:03:30 GMT." Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 19:23:14 +0100 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Responding to: > From: Sergio Lenzi > > Finaly the Ingres version 8.9 bugless (I hope) > is in a USA site (freefall.cdrom.com) > file names: ingresbin.tar.gz and ingressrc.tar.gz > > Any questions, please mail me. URL for ftp please ? Julian --- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Nov 30 07:33:10 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA19691 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 07:33:10 -0800 Received: from cwbtwo.bsi.com.br ([200.250.250.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA19685 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 07:32:59 -0800 Received: (from lenzi@localhost) by cwbtwo.bsi.com.br (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA29424; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:31:58 GMT Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:31:57 +0000 () From: Sergio Lenzi To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: INGRES 8.9 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Finaly the Ingres version 8.9 bugless (I hope) > > is in a USA site (freefall.cdrom.com) > > file names: ingresbin.tar.gz and ingressrc.tar.gz > > > > Any questions, please mail me. > > URL for ftp please ? The ingres can be dowloaded from freefall.cdrom.com ftp://freefall.cdrom.com/incoming the bin package install on /usr/ingres the source install on /usr/ingre/src To compile the sources, you need gnu make ... Thanks for the interest... Sergio de Almeida Lenzi. From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Nov 30 11:49:54 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA16195 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:49:54 -0800 Received: from cwbtr01.bsi.com.br ([200.250.250.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA16162 ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:49:40 -0800 Received: (from lenzi@localhost) by cwbtr01.bsi.com.br (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA00682; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:53:05 GMT Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:53:04 +0000 () From: Sergio Lenzi To: ports@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: ATAPI CDROM made easy. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello fellows with 2.0.5 release and ATAPI CDOMS... I have build a solution for installing and making it functional in an easy way and CDRM ATAPI. If you're interested, 1) get the file pub/FreeBSD/dists/lenzi/atapi205.tar.gz this file is a 'diff' from the original cdrom to my system running 2.0.5 and atapi version 1.3. 2) put the file in the /tmp.... 3) unpack it with thar xvf atapi205.tar.gz\ 4) Follow the instructions in README file 5) do a make install. Sergio de Almeida Lenzi. From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Nov 30 13:38:19 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA25157 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:38:19 -0800 Received: from hawk.gnome.co.uk (gnome.intecc.co.uk [194.72.95.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA25145 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:38:05 -0800 Received: (from jacs@localhost) by hawk.gnome.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA19151; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 21:37:44 GMT Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 21:37:44 GMT From: Chris Stenton Subject: new version of "updated" perl script. To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu Cc: ports@freebsd.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199511161257.EAA00906@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> >> I tried your second version, it looks real nice. The only remaining >> gripe is that if both the old and new versions are still in >> /var/db/pkg, it still reports it. >>Satoshi OK, this version is for the people that don't keep their packages clean. Just running "updated" should give the user a nice clean list of packages that s/he has installed but have since been updated. Chris ----cut---- #!/usr/bin/perl # # $Header: /home/jacs/perl/./updated,v 1.4 1995/11/30 21:17:25 jacs Exp $ # # $Log: updated,v $ # Revision 1.4 1995/11/30 21:17:25 jacs # test for older package versions # #use environment variable PORTSDIR if set unless ($ports = $ENV{'PORTSDIR'}) { $ports = "/usr/ports"; } # #read packages directory and sort in reverse order opendir(PKGDIR, "/var/db/pkg") || die "Could not open /var/db/pkg"; @allfiles = reverse(sort(grep(!/^\.\.?$/, readdir(PKGDIR)))); closedir(PKGDIR); #prune out older versions of the same package. #due to the reverse sorting of @allfiles need only keep #first occurrence of a package $lastpackage = ""; while (@allfiles) { $pkg = shift @allfiles; ($pruned = $pkg) =~ s/-[^-]*$/-/; if ($pruned ne $lastpackage) { push (@packages, $pkg); $lastpackage = $pruned; } } #read ports index open(INDEXFH, "$ports/INDEX") || die "Could not open $ports/INDEX"; @indexfile = ; close(INDEXFH); #search index file for each package ENTRY: foreach $pkg (@packages) { foreach $line(@indexfile) { if(index($line, $pkg) ==0) { next ENTRY; } } #package is not in the INDEX file #checking to see if it has been updated or removed printf "port %20s has been ", $pkg; $pkg =~ s/-[^-]*$/-/; foreach $line(@indexfile) { if(index($line, $pkg) ==0) { $line =~ s/\|.*//; print "updated to\t", $line; next ENTRY; } } print "removed \n"; } From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Nov 30 15:31:36 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA04028 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:31:36 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA04020 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:31:31 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA01103; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:24:09 -0800 To: Chris Stenton cc: asami@cs.berkeley.edu, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new version of "updated" perl script. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 30 Nov 1995 21:37:44 GMT." Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:24:09 -0800 Message-ID: <1101.817773849@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > OK, this version is for the people that don't keep their packages clean. > > Just running "updated" should give the user a nice clean list of packages > that s/he has installed but have since been updated. Actually, I was thinking a little about this just the other day.. :-) What say you folks about the idea of a "ports" command? It would probably be a perl script from hell, but it would basically do all the sorts of cutsie ports related things combined in one utility. For example, you could do things like: ports -cat all -grep name:emacs ports -cat editors -grep maint:jkh ports -cat all -show "name:\t${name}\ncategories:\t${cats}" And so on to get information on new ports, extract patch files for easy mailing, collect ports statistics, etc. ``ports -help'' would also display useful information about ports, how to create them, etc. As we think up new functionality, we simply add it to the single ports command so that it's easy to find. The current `index' targets in /usr/ports/Makefile hardly seems to do the ports collection justice! :-( Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Dec 1 03:13:40 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA14534 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 03:13:40 -0800 Received: from cwbtwo.bsi.com.br ([200.250.250.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA14502 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 03:13:25 -0800 Received: (from lenzi@localhost) by cwbtwo.bsi.com.br (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA11101; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 09:12:24 GMT Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 09:12:21 +0000 () From: Sergio Lenzi To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: INGRES Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Ref documentation. The process I use to "trace bugs" in the source code leads to "rewrite" all the code so an "patch" from the original, will result in a file greater than the sources I offer. It was done as: 1) using an "indent" from unixware it rewrote all the source code in a way it becomes K&R c. 2) use of debug that can trace tasks (again in unixware). 3) use of lint in the all the source code. 4) Changed the structure that define tasks from structure to pointer to typedefs. Of course after that nothing worked at all. (That is the idea). 5) With the help from the debugger and "cscope" (program that makes references within c procedures and calls), I started to make it running. After 2 weeks the references to all procedures wrere fixed. 6) Traced and removed references to a 16bit machine and it's 16 bit integers. 7) Implement of a program that calculates the offset in the pages based in constans from the specific machine "sparc,hpux,intel..." 8) Almost rewritten the equel processor. It only let you define a name say "STUDENT". When later in the program you need to define "A.STUDENT" the scanner reports dupplicate name. So I changed the scanner from tree to list logic, working in the yacc also. After that I wrote a program (system) to control video-shops and with the same code compiled in Unixware, linux or BSD, I installed in 3 video shops from a friend of mine. The system is running by 6 months or so, without ANY problems. In the shops it uses 386DX with 8Mb of memory and 500MB of disk, with a multi serial of 4 ports running a console and 2 dumb terminals. Now there is only Unixware and BSD (linux file systems was week, as sometimes the power goes down and it losts some of the open files). If you're intereste, I can send you a program as an example on how I've done a real application (C written). Very Thanks, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi. From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Dec 1 03:29:11 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA16387 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 03:29:11 -0800 Received: from cwbtwo.bsi.com.br ([200.250.250.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA16372 ; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 03:28:58 -0800 Received: (from lenzi@localhost) by cwbtwo.bsi.com.br (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA11724; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 09:27:56 GMT Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 09:27:55 +0000 () From: Sergio Lenzi To: "Julian H. Stacey" cc: ports@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: INGRES 8.9 In-Reply-To: <199511302228.XAA20319@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > > Well I ftp'd them & had a v. quick look, > For it to be considered a `FreeBSD ported package' > it needs a top Makefile that is > bsd make, not gnu make > (you can have gnus in the work/ subdir) > /usr/ingre/src is unacceptable, > it must reside in /usr/ports/databases/ingres > > /usr/ingres is ... well .. debatable > usr/local & such normally ... oh well. > > anyway I'm out of time, > but it doesnt qualify as a FreeBSD package ... yet, > > Would you like to look at a few of the 400 /usr/ports/*/*/Makefile, > grab the syntax out of a few, & write a makefile & DESC & pkg/ stuff, > > then when you've done that i'll test it & if OK commit it. > > Forgive me if I was misundestood, This is not suposed to be a "port", just an answer to the people that want a "try" in ingres. As I see, the interest is growing, I'll promiss to make a real "PORT", thanks to your assistance. My job in bsi.com.br (an internet provider is taking me almost all of my time). May be in 1 week or later a "port" will be in "place". I am not trying to do just an ingres database that works, it is almost ready, a set of examples on how to work with it using the equel language (building a customer system that manages and prints customer information) stored in a ingres database with the help of a curses/panel library. Sergio de Almeida Lenzi. From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Dec 1 03:51:33 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA17865 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 03:51:33 -0800 Received: from tfs.com (tfs.com [140.145.250.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id DAA17860 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 03:51:29 -0800 Received: by tfs.com (smail3.1.28.1) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 1 Dec 95 03:51 PST From: julian@TFS.COM (Julian Elischer) To: ports@freebsd.org, wine-new@amscons.com Subject: Patch for WINE to fix problem with freeBSD Cc: julian@TFS.COM Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Here is a patch to fix a problem under FreeBSD, where any access of a directory would hang the program. this is my first venture into wine so be gentle :) It has a lot of promise though you have to know a lot more about windows than a Unix weeny like myself tends to know.. (e.g how DLLs work). julian +----------------------------------+ ______ _ __ | __--_|\ Julian Elischer | \ U \/ / On assignment | / \ julian@tfs.com +------>x USA \ in a very strange | ( OZ ) 300 lakeside Dr. oakland CA. \___ ___ | country ! +- X_.---._/ USA+(510) 645-3137(wk) \_/ \\ > v LL LL ----------cut here----------------- diff -c ./dos_fs.c /tmp/dos_fs.c *** ./dos_fs.c Fri Nov 24 04:59:40 1995 --- /tmp/dos_fs.c Fri Dec 1 10:50:53 1995 *************** *** 858,870 **** strncpy(dirname, unixdirname, len); dirname[len] = 0; unixdirname = strrchr(unixdirname, '/') + 1; if ((ds = opendir(dirname)) == NULL) return NULL; dp = DosDirs; while (dp) { ! if (dp->inuse) break; if (strcmp(dp->unixpath, dirname) == 0) break; --- 858,873 ---- strncpy(dirname, unixdirname, len); dirname[len] = 0; unixdirname = strrchr(unixdirname, '/') + 1; + #ifdef JREOLD if ((ds = opendir(dirname)) == NULL) return NULL; + #endif /* JREOLD */ dp = DosDirs; + /* try reuse it if we have already done this directory.. odd */ while (dp) { ! if (!dp->inuse) /* I think this test was reversed before */ break; if (strcmp(dp->unixpath, dirname) == 0) break; *************** *** 873,881 **** --- 876,895 ---- if (!dp) { dp = xmalloc(sizeof(struct dosdirent)); + dp->ds = NULL; dp->next = DosDirs; DosDirs = dp; } + #ifndef JREOLD + if (! dp->ds) + { + if ((dp->ds = ds = opendir(dirname)) == NULL) + { + dp->inuse = 0; + return NULL; + } + } + #endif /* JREOLD */ strncpy(dp->filemask, unixdirname, 12); dp->filemask[12] = 0; *************** *** 887,901 **** if ((dp->telldirnum=telldir(ds)) == -1) { ! dp->inuse = 0; closedir(ds); return NULL; } if (closedir(ds) == -1) { dp->inuse = 0; return NULL; } return dp; } --- 901,921 ---- if ((dp->telldirnum=telldir(ds)) == -1) { ! #ifdef JREOLD ! dp->inuse = 0; /* Wierd, but should rarely happen */ closedir(ds); + #else /* JREOLD */ + DOS_closedir(dp); + #endif /* JREOLD */ return NULL; } + #ifdef JREOLD if (closedir(ds) == -1) { dp->inuse = 0; return NULL; } + #endif /* JREOLD */ return dp; } *************** *** 909,915 **** if (!de->inuse) return NULL; ! if (!(ds=opendir(de->unixpath))) return NULL; seekdir(ds,de->telldirnum); /* returns no error value. strange */ if (de->search_attribute & FA_LABEL) { --- 929,946 ---- if (!de->inuse) return NULL; ! #ifdef JREOLD ! if (!( ds=opendir(de->unixpath))) return NULL; ! #else ! if ( ! de->ds ) ! { ! if (!(de->ds = ds =opendir(de->unixpath))) return NULL; ! } ! else ! { ! ds = de->ds; ! } ! #endif /* JREOLD */ seekdir(ds,de->telldirnum); /* returns no error value. strange */ if (de->search_attribute & FA_LABEL) { *************** *** 929,935 **** --- 960,968 ---- do { if ((d = readdir(ds)) == NULL) { de->telldirnum=telldir(ds); + #ifdef JREOLD closedir(ds); + #endif /* JREOLD */ return NULL; } *************** *** 955,966 **** --- 988,1009 ---- de->filetime = st.st_mtime; de->telldirnum = telldir(ds); + #ifdef JREOLD closedir(ds); + #endif /* JREOLD */ return de; } void DOS_closedir(struct dosdirent *de) { + + #ifndef JREOLD + if ( de->ds ) + { + closedir (de->ds); + de->ds = NULL; + } + #endif /* JREOLD */ if (de && de->inuse) de->inuse = 0; } ###-----------------end of patch From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Dec 1 08:02:55 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA05056 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 08:02:55 -0800 Received: from wiley.muc.ditec.de (wiley.muc.ditec.de [194.120.126.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA05043 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 08:02:33 -0800 Received: from vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de ([139.92.42.155]) by wiley.muc.ditec.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA10421; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 17:00:41 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA00590; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 16:53:55 +0100 Message-Id: <199512011553.QAA00590@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> X-Authentication-Warning: vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: ports@freebsd.org cc: se@FreeBSD.OR, root@thud.FreeBSD.org Subject: Wine-951124.tar.gz Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" X-mailer: EXMH version 1.6.4 10/10/95 Date: Fri, 01 Dec 1995 16:53:54 +0100 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Current /usr/ports/emulators/wine/Makefile specifies Wine-951124.tar.gz & yet that version is neither to be found on thud or freefall. ( freefall has thud mounted viewable as /net/thud/usr/ports/distfiles is viewable) even though (at least my) thud login remains broken (post thud crash) ). Julian --- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Dec 1 12:05:13 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA21296 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 12:05:13 -0800 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA21290 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 12:05:07 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA01773; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 12:04:30 -0800 To: Sergio Lenzi cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: INGRES In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 01 Dec 1995 09:12:21 GMT." Date: Fri, 01 Dec 1995 12:04:30 -0800 Message-ID: <1771.817848270@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Ref documentation. > > The process I use to "trace bugs" in the source code > leads to "rewrite" all the code so an "patch" from the original, > will result in a file greater than the sources I offer. It sounds then like this is a case of an "orphaned port", or one that has changed significantly enough that it certainly can no longer really be called the same Ingres port we've seen from Berkeley. I still think it should be a "port", however, it just means that the original tarball will have to live in our LOCAL_PORTS. To get a working RDB back in ports/databases, I think this would be worth the price. Jordan > > It was done as: > 1) using an "indent" from unixware it rewrote all the source > code in a way it becomes K&R c. > 2) use of debug that can trace tasks (again in unixware). > 3) use of lint in the all the source code. > 4) Changed the structure that define tasks from structure to > pointer to typedefs. Of course after that nothing > worked at all. (That is the idea). > 5) With the help from the debugger and "cscope" (program that > makes references within c procedures and calls), I > started to make it running. After 2 weeks the > references to all procedures wrere fixed. > 6) Traced and removed references to a 16bit machine and it's > 16 bit integers. > 7) Implement of a program that calculates the offset in > the pages based in constans from the specific > machine "sparc,hpux,intel..." > 8) Almost rewritten the equel processor. It only let you > define a name say "STUDENT". When later in the program > you need to define "A.STUDENT" the scanner reports > dupplicate name. So I changed the scanner from tree > to list logic, working in the yacc also. > After that I wrote a program (system) to control video-shops > and with the same code compiled in Unixware, linux or BSD, > I installed in 3 video shops from a friend of mine. > The system is running by 6 months or so, without ANY problems. > In the shops it uses 386DX with 8Mb of memory and 500MB of disk, > with a multi serial of 4 ports running a console and 2 dumb > terminals. Now there is only Unixware and BSD (linux file systems was week, > as sometimes the power goes down and it losts some of the open files). > > If you're intereste, > I can send you a program as an example on how I've done a real > application (C written). > > Very Thanks, > > Sergio de Almeida Lenzi. > From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Dec 1 21:51:20 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA22730 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 21:51:20 -0800 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA22714 ; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 21:51:10 -0800 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA00807; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 21:50:48 -0800 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199512020550.VAA00807@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Slightly better patch for FreeBSD readdir() fix To: wine-new@amscons.com Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 21:50:48 -0800 (PST) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 5016 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Here is a slightly better patch to dos_fs.c in WINE. the last one was basically the same but had a couple of unreferenced variables in certain cases.. I've also cleaned it up a bit #-------cut here------------- *** dos_fs.c.orig Fri Nov 24 04:59:40 1995 --- dos_fs.c Fri Dec 1 18:47:21 1995 *************** *** 858,901 **** strncpy(dirname, unixdirname, len); dirname[len] = 0; unixdirname = strrchr(unixdirname, '/') + 1; - if ((ds = opendir(dirname)) == NULL) - return NULL; dp = DosDirs; while (dp) { ! if (dp->inuse) break; if (strcmp(dp->unixpath, dirname) == 0) break; dp = dp->next; } if (!dp) { dp = xmalloc(sizeof(struct dosdirent)); dp->next = DosDirs; DosDirs = dp; } strncpy(dp->filemask, unixdirname, 12); dp->filemask[12] = 0; dprintf_dosfs(stddeb,"DOS_opendir: %s / %s\n", unixdirname, dirname); - dp->inuse = 1; strcpy(dp->unixpath, dirname); dp->entnum = 0; - if ((dp->telldirnum=telldir(ds)) == -1) - { - dp->inuse = 0; - closedir(ds); - return NULL; - } - if (closedir(ds) == -1) - { - dp->inuse = 0; - return NULL; - } return dp; } --- 858,916 ---- strncpy(dirname, unixdirname, len); dirname[len] = 0; unixdirname = strrchr(unixdirname, '/') + 1; dp = DosDirs; + /* try reuse it if we have already done this directory.. odd */ while (dp) { ! if (!dp->inuse) /* I think this test was reversed before */ ! { ! dp->inuse = 1; ! dp->ds == NULL; break; + } if (strcmp(dp->unixpath, dirname) == 0) + { break; + } dp = dp->next; } if (!dp) { dp = xmalloc(sizeof(struct dosdirent)); + dp->ds = NULL; + dp->inuse = 1; dp->next = DosDirs; DosDirs = dp; } + if (! dp->ds) + { + if ((dp->ds = ds = opendir(dirname)) == NULL) + { + dp->inuse = 0; + return NULL; + } + } + else + { + ds = dp->ds; + rewinddir(dp->ds); + } + #ifdef NEEDSEEK + if ((dp->telldirnum=telldir(ds)) == -1) + { + DOS_closedir(dp); + return NULL; + } + #endif strncpy(dp->filemask, unixdirname, 12); dp->filemask[12] = 0; dprintf_dosfs(stddeb,"DOS_opendir: %s / %s\n", unixdirname, dirname); strcpy(dp->unixpath, dirname); dp->entnum = 0; return dp; } *************** *** 908,921 **** DIR *ds; if (!de->inuse) return NULL; ! if (!(ds=opendir(de->unixpath))) return NULL; seekdir(ds,de->telldirnum); /* returns no error value. strange */ ! if (de->search_attribute & FA_LABEL) { int drive; de->search_attribute &= ~FA_LABEL; /* don't find it again */ ! for(drive = 0; drive < MAX_DOS_DRIVES; drive++) { if (DosDrives[drive].rootdir != NULL && strcmp(DosDrives[drive].rootdir, de->unixpath) == 0) { --- 923,952 ---- DIR *ds; if (!de->inuse) + { + printf("DOS_readdir(): something closed the dir early (1)\n"); return NULL; ! } ! if ( ! de->ds ) ! { ! printf("DOS_readdir(): something closed the dir badly (1)\n"); ! if (!(de->ds = ds =opendir(de->unixpath))) return NULL; ! } ! else ! { ! ds = de->ds; ! } ! #ifdef NEEDSEEK seekdir(ds,de->telldirnum); /* returns no error value. strange */ + #endif ! /* Special case for when asked to get a label */ ! if (de->search_attribute & FA_LABEL) ! { int drive; de->search_attribute &= ~FA_LABEL; /* don't find it again */ ! for(drive = 0; drive < MAX_DOS_DRIVES; drive++) ! { if (DosDrives[drive].rootdir != NULL && strcmp(DosDrives[drive].rootdir, de->unixpath) == 0) { *************** *** 926,935 **** } } do { if ((d = readdir(ds)) == NULL) { de->telldirnum=telldir(ds); ! closedir(ds); return NULL; } --- 957,968 ---- } } + /* Keep looking at directory entries till we find what we want */ do { if ((d = readdir(ds)) == NULL) { + #ifdef NEEDSEEK de->telldirnum=telldir(ds); ! #endif return NULL; } *************** *** 954,966 **** de->filesize = st.st_size; de->filetime = st.st_mtime; de->telldirnum = telldir(ds); ! closedir(ds); return de; } void DOS_closedir(struct dosdirent *de) { if (de && de->inuse) de->inuse = 0; } --- 987,1006 ---- de->filesize = st.st_size; de->filetime = st.st_mtime; + #ifdef NEEDSEEK de->telldirnum = telldir(ds); ! #endif return de; } void DOS_closedir(struct dosdirent *de) { + + if ( de->ds ) + { + closedir (de->ds); + de->ds = NULL; + } if (de && de->inuse) de->inuse = 0; } #------------------end of patch---------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Dec 2 04:19:11 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA09737 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 04:19:11 -0800 Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA09701 for ; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 04:18:56 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.9) id EAA00888; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 04:18:28 -0800 Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 04:18:28 -0800 Message-Id: <199512021218.EAA00888@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: jmz@cabri.obs-besancon.fr CC: chuckr@glue.umd.edu, FreeBSD-ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <9511291252.AA03916@cabri.obs-besancon.fr> (message from Jean-Marc Zucconi on Wed, 29 Nov 95 13:52:47 +0100) Subject: Re: misc/colorls From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * I am also behind a phone line (and sometimes at 2400bps) :-) * I wrote a ftpget replacement, and it has a (primitive) progression * indicator, it should work if you are behind a firewall, and is * compatible with ncftp. The program is very simple since it uses the * ftp code in src/release/sysintall/. Interested? Yes! We really need a little program that does only what we need, that we can understand, and fix easily. There is no need for interactive mode, for instance. All we need is an ability to fetch a file even from behind the firewall, optionally renaming it, and be able to deal with wu-ftpd's auto-packing. (I hope I didn't forget something else.) If yours can do that, let's try it out! Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Dec 2 15:54:43 1995 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA17007 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 15:54:43 -0800 Received: from bacchus.eng.umd.edu (bacchus.eng.umd.edu [129.2.94.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA16985 ; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 15:54:29 -0800 Received: from latte.eng.umd.edu (latte.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.15]) by bacchus.eng.umd.edu (8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id SAA01643; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 18:54:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by latte.eng.umd.edu (8.7.2/8.6.4) id SAA09453; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 18:54:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 18:54:21 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@latte.eng.umd.edu To: Sergio Lenzi cc: "Julian H. Stacey" , ports@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: INGRES 8.9 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 1 Dec 1995, Sergio Lenzi wrote: > On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > > > > > > Well I ftp'd them & had a v. quick look, > > For it to be considered a `FreeBSD ported package' > > it needs a top Makefile that is > > bsd make, not gnu make > > (you can have gnus in the work/ subdir) > > /usr/ingre/src is unacceptable, > > it must reside in /usr/ports/databases/ingres You know, Julian, there is such a thing as a package, it's not a port, and it already is built. I didn't think he claimed he had a port, I thought he said it was a package. The bin part of it surely is, anyways. I think it might be right to urge him to put it in as a port, but completely unfair to tell him he did it wrong. As a package, it isn't wrong. I like ports, you like ports, but there IS that alternative, and I think asking him to go that extra step is more friendly than telling him he's wrong because he didn't. > > > > /usr/ingres is ... well .. debatable > > usr/local & such normally ... oh well. > > > > anyway I'm out of time, > > but it doesnt qualify as a FreeBSD package ... yet, > > > > Would you like to look at a few of the 400 /usr/ports/*/*/Makefile, > > grab the syntax out of a few, & write a makefile & DESC & pkg/ stuff, > > > > then when you've done that i'll test it & if OK commit it. > > > > > Forgive me if I was misundestood, > > This is not suposed to be a "port", just an answer to > the people that want a "try" in ingres. > > As I see, the interest is growing, I'll promiss to make a > real "PORT", thanks to your assistance. My job in bsi.com.br (an internet > provider is taking me almost all of my time). > May be in 1 week or later a "port" will be in "place". > I am not trying to do just an ingres database that works, > it is almost ready, a set of examples on how to work with it > using the equel language (building a customer system that manages and > prints customer information) stored in a ingres database with the > help of a curses/panel library. > > > Sergio de Almeida Lenzi. > > ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: