From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 01:17:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA20221 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 01:17:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA20205 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 01:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA06100; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 18:12:34 +1000 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 18:12:34 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199606300812.SAA06100@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Subject: Re: remote make install Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> > > SYSEXITS(3) FreeBSD Programmer's Manual SYSEXITS(3) >> >> This manpage is relatively new still. Perhaps all utilites that >> adhere to sysexits(3) should xref it in their man pages, and the man >> page of make should make it clear that it's the exit status of the >> command. Perhaps no utilities should use sysexits.h. It seems to be deprecated in 4.4Lite. In all files in /usr/*bin and /usr/libexec, it is only used in rmail, sccs and mail.local. >Well, at least the first step in that direction would be adding something >to the install man page, because what it says now about errors is nearly >nothing. ... It documents the 4.4Lite behaviour of simply returning 0 for OK and 1 for error. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 02:51:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA28407 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 02:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA28394 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 02:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id LAA21952; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:50:49 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id LAA26038; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:50:48 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id LAA06309; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:12:49 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199606300912.LAA06309@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: remote make install To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:12:49 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from Chuck Robey at "Jun 29, 96 11:25:48 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Chuck Robey wrote: > Well, at least the first step in that direction would be adding something > to the install man page, because what it says now about errors is nearly > nothing. I don't have commit privs, but I'd be willing to send diffs to > anyone who wanted to commit changes to install (the change would be small). send-pr it. There are several people who are very active in committing man page changes (mpp, wosch for example). -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 04:10:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA03784 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 04:10:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA03775 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 04:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA16818; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:06:41 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA25803; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:19:02 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199606301119.NAA25803@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: world build times went up (?) To: freebsd@shadows.aeon.net (Mr Operating System) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:19:01 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199606291217.PAA09292@shadows.aeon.net> from Mr Operating System at "Jun 29, 96 03:17:01 pm" Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [Charset Latin-1 unsupported, skipping...] This was with a Amd5x86 DX4/133 , SCSI Quantum (not very fast), with Quantum Atlas it would be faster. --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 09:05:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA23565 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 09:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE [130.73.108.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23549; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 09:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from softs11.ZIB-Berlin.DE by sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (5.x/SMI-5.3-20.11.95) id AA19082; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 18:04:49 +0200 Received: (from wosch@localhost) by campa.panke.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA01292; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:17:26 +0200 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:17:26 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider Message-Id: <199606301517.RAA01292@campa.panke.de> To: Bruce Evans Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, wosch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make clean in src/lkm problems In-Reply-To: <199606291844.EAA15398@godzilla.zeta.org.au> References: <199606291844.EAA15398@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Reply-To: Wolfram Schneider Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bruce Evans writes: >>Jordan changed the order of the include files in bsd.kmod.mk. >>JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN! Why did you do that? The >>order is still important. And the order will be important if we move > >Order shouldn't be important, It shouldn't, but it do. See also /usr/share/mk/bsd.README section 'RANDOM THINGS WORTH KNOWING'. >and there were no comments :-). I can add a comment. >>My intention was a single 'clean:' target in bsd.obj.mk. Except >>if the top makefile (./obj/Makefile, ./Makefile) does >>have their own clean target. > >By adding things to CLEANFILES, etc? Yes. >bsd.lib.mk currently has a much >larger clean rule, but it doen't need to unless there is a problem >with the command line lengths. A makefile variable and a command line can at least contain 40000 characters (just tested). >>PS: now I have ~200 'obj' trouble mails in my mailbox. Was it that >>worth? >Automatically generated mails? No, humans mails from -current. Wolfram PS: my university mailserver mail.cs.tu-berlin.de is down. All mail should be sent to wosch@freebsd.org (see Reply-to:). wosch@softs11.ZIB-Berlin.DE is a fake for sending my mails out. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 09:37:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA26626 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 09:37:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haywire.DIALix.COM (root@haywire.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA26615 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 09:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by haywire.DIALix.COM (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA00567 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 00:37:03 +0800 (WST) Received: from GATEWAY by haywire.DIALix.COM with netnews for freebsd-current@freebsd.org (problems to: usenet@haywire.dialix.com) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: 30 Jun 1996 16:37:01 GMT From: peter@spinner.DIALix.COM (Peter Wemm) Message-ID: <4r6afe$g0p$1@haywire.DIALix.COM> Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Australia. References: <199606250412.VAA07543@multivac.orthanc.com> Subject: Re: Has anyone noticed a problem with rshd in -current? Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article , taob@io.org (Brian Tao) writes: > On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, Lyndon Nerenberg VE7TCP wrote: >> >> If so, this is a symptom of a long-standing bug (since 2.1-RELEASE at >> the very least) related to reuse of addr/port pairs that I haven't >> been able to track down. (And lots of other people have seen.) > > I've been seeing it since my first FreeBSD installation, just > after 2.0 was released. I've personally only seen it happen with > rlogin only, and Jordan reports a similar or identical problem with > rsh. I've *never* seen it happen with any other inetd service. On > top of that, rlogins from our Livingston PM-2e termservers to our > FreeBSD servers have never failed either. I tried to get a tcpdump of this happening to me one time, but what I saw didn't make sense (to me :-). For me though, it was with ssh, and I dont remember the exact sequence of events, but I think one end was in "ESTABLISHED", and the other end sitting in SYN_SENT, and it looked like each SYN that was being sent was being ACK'ed by the remote end, keeping it alive. The Stevens' books, tcp/ip Illustrated (vol 2 I think) say something about an ``unfortunate'' feature of the 4.4BSD code, and give examples of how the code fails under some situations. I'll try and find it, and now that I have the books, I'll look at the tcpdump outhput again... > -- > Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org, taob@ican.net) > Systems and Network Administrator, Internet Canada Corp. > "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" > From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 09:51:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA27445 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 09:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haywire.DIALix.COM (root@haywire.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA27425 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 09:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by haywire.DIALix.COM (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA01509 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 00:51:21 +0800 (WST) Received: from GATEWAY by haywire.DIALix.COM with netnews for freebsd-current@freebsd.org (problems to: usenet@haywire.dialix.com) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: 30 Jun 1996 16:51:20 GMT From: peter@spinner.DIALix.COM (Peter Wemm) Message-ID: <4r6ba8$g0p$2@haywire.DIALix.COM> Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Australia. References: <2072.835767053@critter.tfs.com> Subject: Re: contrib SW, the policy! Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <199606260544.XAA02856@rocky.mt.sri.com>, nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) writes: >> Well, here it is, the official word on contrib software. >> >> Contact peter@freebsd.org or phk@freebsd.org for more info. > > Does this mean that Peter's Bmake'd gcc/libg++ stuff isn't going in? > > If not, why? The work is already done, so why not do it already. :) > > If so, I'm eagerly awaiting it I've been hearing good things about gcc-2.7.3, including the probability of a "next week" release. Based on the glowing reports, I think we'd be crazy to go in too soon if it's just a matter of days. Yes, this one will be in the existing layout (I've already done the work) but for 2.8 (whenever that happens) the odds are that it will probably be done in a native layout on fresh rcs files, as it supposedly is a very large delta to 2.7.2 already and the RCS files in src/gnu/cc are badly bloated, and an import of 2.8 would probably be pushing it too far. (the rcs files would probably end up larger than the *complete* original source because of the broken vendor branch and the double-size deltas) Just as a BTW, way back in 2.0.5 days when I first got involved with FreeBSD, I suggested almost this exact approach to a couple of people, and even did a prototype implementation of a package (bind-4.9.3.beta-something) as a proof-of-concept.. I've only just remembered it a few minutes ago, talk about deja-vu! :-) > Nate Cheers, -Peter From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 10:39:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA00247 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (critter.cdrom.com [204.216.27.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00239; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00297; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:36:49 -0700 (PDT) To: peter@spinner.DIALix.COM (Peter Wemm) cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: contrib SW, the policy! In-reply-to: Your message of "30 Jun 1996 16:51:20 GMT." <4r6ba8$g0p$2@haywire.DIALix.COM> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:36:48 -0700 Message-ID: <295.836156208@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <4r6ba8$g0p$2@haywire.DIALix.COM>, Peter Wemm writes: > >Just as a BTW, way back in 2.0.5 days when I first got involved with FreeBSD, >I suggested almost this exact approach to a couple of people, and even did >a prototype implementation of a package (bind-4.9.3.beta-something) as a >proof-of-concept.. I've only just remembered it a few minutes ago, talk about >deja-vu! :-) Well, sometimes people have to learn the hard way :-) -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 11:36:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA05026 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:36:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sierra.zyzzyva.com (ppp0.zyzzyva.com [198.183.2.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05003; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:36:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zyzzyva.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sierra.zyzzyva.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id NAA16141; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:36:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199606301836.NAA16141@sierra.zyzzyva.com> To: Kent Hamilton cc: current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW Wish List Item In-reply-to: kenth's message of Sat, 29 Jun 1996 13:22:57 -0500. <199606291822.NAA06096@gwydion.hns.st-louis.mo.us> X-uri: http://www.zyzzyva.com/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:36:12 -0500 From: Randy Terbush Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Not to belittle the work that Poul and others have put into IPFW, I can't help but ask, "Why reinvent the wheel?" Darren Reed has done a great job pulling together ip_filter. As near as I can tell it offers every feature that IPFW does as well as NAT and many other features that are being requested for addition to IPFW. Again, my comments are not intended to take away from the effort that has been put into IPFW. It just seems that there is another option available that could only be made better by making it the standard packet filter for FreeBSD. It already sports many of the features that are being requested for addition to IPFW. > Since all the discussion about IPFW is going on I'll toss my wish list > item into the hat. Add the ability to use it as a NAT the way ip_filter > can. > > -- > Kent Hamilton From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 11:39:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA05195 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA05188; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:39:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199606301839.LAA05188@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Make world stopped To: imp@village.org (Warner Losh) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:39:23 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199606290419.WAA23450@rover.village.org> from "Warner Losh" at Jun 28, 96 10:19:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Warner Losh wrote: > > : There's no such thing as a "low" volume list around here, I'm afraid. > > freebsd-announce is low volume and works. I was thinking about the > same sort of thing. > there must have been a commit message for the change. the commit lists are fairly low volume. perhaps the commit needs a little highlighting sometimes? dont know. jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 12:27:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA08632 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (critter.cdrom.com [204.216.27.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08606; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA05310; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:26:57 -0700 (PDT) To: Randy Terbush cc: Kent Hamilton , current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW Wish List Item In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:36:12 CDT." <199606301836.NAA16141@sierra.zyzzyva.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:26:56 -0700 Message-ID: <5308.836162816@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199606301836.NAA16141@sierra.zyzzyva.com>, Randy Terbush writes: > >Not to belittle the work that Poul and others have put into IPFW, >I can't help but ask, "Why reinvent the wheel?" > >Darren Reed has done a great job pulling together ip_filter. As near >as I can tell it offers every feature that IPFW does as well as NAT and >many other features that are being requested for addition to IPFW. > >Again, my comments are not intended to take away from the effort that >has been put into IPFW. It just seems that there is another option >available that could only be made better by making it the standard >packet filter for FreeBSD. It already sports many of the features >that are being requested for addition to IPFW. At the time there were various obstacles for that. I hope that somebody soon imports ipfilter too. I would like to see us having two implementations: ipfw for the lightweight stuff ipfilter for the heavy stuff. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 12:45:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA10339 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA10326 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:45:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA00922; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:44:45 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199606301944.NAA00922@rover.village.org> To: Ollivier Robert Subject: Re: Firewalling DNS TCP (was Re: IPFW bugs?) Cc: nash@mcs.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG, nate@mt.sri.com In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 30 Jun 1996 00:51:43 +0200 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:44:44 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk : In practice, if you're sure no query can be of more than 512 bytes, then : you can cut TCP/53. BUt IMO you don't gain that much. There was a discussion in I think namedroppers (or was that comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domain) that concluded this is a *BAD* idea. If you have any large records, they will be truncated by this and could lead to bogus mail delivery (if the remote end doesn't properly detect the truncated bit). It really buys you nothing unless you and all of your secondaries do the same thing. You do have secondaries on multiple nets, right? Warner From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 12:50:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA10857 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA10756 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:49:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA00943; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:49:15 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199606301949.NAA00943@rover.village.org> To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: Make world stopped Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:39:23 PDT Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:49:15 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk : there must have been a commit message for the change. the commit : lists are fairly low volume. perhaps the commit needs a little : highlighting sometimes? dont know. Well, the commit mail that I've been reading did, to jordan's credit, have very cleaer instructions. The commit mail isn't low volume (I let it go for a week and have to plow through 100-200 messages some weeks). Not all chanages are that well marked and I've been burned once or twice in the past... >From the response so far, it sounds like there isn't much support for the idea, so I'm going to let it drop. Warner From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 12:52:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA11107 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zombie.ncsc.mil (zombie.ncsc.mil [144.51.15.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA11099 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sjr@localhost) by zombie.ncsc.mil (8.6.11/8.6.11) id PAA10918 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:52:34 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:52:34 -0400 From: "Stephen J. Roznowski" Message-Id: <199606301952.PAA10918@zombie.ncsc.mil> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Problem installing from 2.2-960612-SNAP Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I'm trying to do a new installation from a DOS partition (minimal option). Everything goes fine until I try to extract "bin", then I get the following errors: /stand/cpio: invalid header: checksum error /stand/cpio: warning: skipped 5427 bytes of junk /stand/cpio: cannot remove current: is a directory /stand/cpio: invalid header: checksum eror gunzip: stdio: invalid compress data--format violated. What am I doing wrong? Thanks, -SR From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 13:44:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA15673 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uu.elvisti.kiev.ua (acc0.elvisti.kiev.ua [193.125.28.132]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA15570; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.elvisti.kiev.ua (office.elvisti.kiev.ua [193.125.28.129]) by uu.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA20172; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 00:02:28 +0300 (EET DST) Received: (from stesin@localhost) by office.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) id AAA10494; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 00:02:26 +0300 From: "Andrew V. Stesin" Message-Id: <199606302102.AAA10494@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> Subject: Re: IPFW Wish List Item To: phk@freebsd.org (Poul-Henning Kamp) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 00:02:22 +2700 (EET DST) Cc: randy@zyzzyva.com, kenth@hns.st-louis.mo.us, current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <5308.836162816@critter.tfs.com> from "Poul-Henning Kamp" at Jun 30, 96 12:26:56 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha5] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk # # I hope that somebody soon imports ipfilter too. I would like to # see us having two implementations: # ipfw for the lightweight stuff # ipfilter for the heavy stuff. That would be a really wise and great desision. BTW ipfilter is now at 3.1.0beta -- thus importing it to -current will make an up-to-date version ready to use to the date of 2.2-release (I think). # -- # Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. # http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. # whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. # Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. # -- With best regards -- Andrew Stesin. +380 (44) 2760188 +380 (44) 2713457 +380 (44) 2713560 "You may delegate authority, but not responsibility." Frank's Management Rule #1. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 14:41:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA19275 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.eu.org [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA19267 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.eu.org [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA00987; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 23:41:13 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id XAA11578; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 23:40:36 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.Alpha.5/keltia-uucp-2.8) id XAA00568; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 23:01:57 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199606302101.XAA00568@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Re: Firewalling DNS TCP (was Re: IPFW bugs?) To: imp@village.org (Warner Losh) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 23:01:57 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Current Users' list) In-Reply-To: <199606301944.NAA00922@rover.village.org> from Warner Losh at "Jun 30, 96 01:44:44 pm" X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#2178 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It seems that Warner Losh said: > comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domain) that concluded this is a *BAD* idea. If > you have any large records, they will be truncated by this and could > lead to bogus mail delivery (if the remote end doesn't properly detect > the truncated bit). It really buys you nothing unless you and all of That what I said. We are in agreement about the uselessness of filtering TCP:53. I had to fight with my boss (I was security consultant till friday) because he insisted to block it... -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #12: Sun Jun 30 14:10:07 MET DST 1996 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 15:23:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA21807 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA21801; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:23:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199606302223.PAA21801@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Make world stopped To: imp@village.org (Warner Losh) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199606301949.NAA00943@rover.village.org> from "Warner Losh" at Jun 30, 96 01:49:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Warner Losh wrote: > > : there must have been a commit message for the change. the commit > : lists are fairly low volume. perhaps the commit needs a little > : highlighting sometimes? dont know. > > Well, the commit mail that I've been reading did, to jordan's credit, > have very cleaer instructions. The commit mail isn't low volume (I > let it go for a week and have to plow through 100-200 messages some warner, shhh...., you may get what you ask for! almost every commit message marks a change for the better in FreeBSD. we dont want the volume to fall too low ;) jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 15:43:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA23073 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA23066 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA17517; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:42:26 -0700 (PDT) To: "Stephen J. Roznowski" cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem installing from 2.2-960612-SNAP In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:52:34 EDT." <199606301952.PAA10918@zombie.ncsc.mil> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:42:25 -0700 Message-ID: <17515.836174545@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nothing, I think. FreeBSD doesn't like your DOS partition and probably won't until Robert finishes his DOS filesystem rewrite/fix cycle. :-( I don't know why this happens to some DOS users and not others (fragment size? partition size? geometry? sunspot activity?) but it, unfortunately, does. Jordan > Greetings, > > I'm trying to do a new installation from a DOS partition (minimal > option). Everything goes fine until I try to extract "bin", then > I get the following errors: > > /stand/cpio: invalid header: checksum error > /stand/cpio: warning: skipped 5427 bytes of junk > /stand/cpio: cannot remove current: is a directory > /stand/cpio: invalid header: checksum eror > gunzip: stdio: invalid compress data--format violated. > > What am I doing wrong? > > Thanks, > -SR From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 16:01:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA23896 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mongoose.bostic.com (bostic@mongoose.BSDI.COM [205.230.230.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23888; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bostic@localhost) by mongoose.bostic.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id SAA23044; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 18:58:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 18:58:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Keith Bostic Message-Id: <199606302258.SAA23044@mongoose.bostic.com> To: jhs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: does cgetent() tgetent() vi see if an element of TERMPATH is a file ? Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Does current FreeBSD lib cgetent() called from tgetent() called from Vi 1.34 > always correctly detect the difference between > an element of TERMPATH being a file & a directory ? I don't know, but it shouldn't be a vi issue. Vi only uses tgetent(), it doesn't use the getcap(3) interfaces. That said, BSDI has made several fixes to getcap(3), and I vaguely recall a couple more to termlib. I could probably pass them along if someone wants to do the merge and pass it back. --keith From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 16:48:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA27350 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:48:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA27345 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA13093; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:49:15 -0700 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:49:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Veggy Vinny To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 6/30/96 -current make world fails Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk make beforeinstall make: don't know how to make /usr/src/lib/libtcl/../../contrib/tcl/generic/tcl.h. Stop Any ideas? Vince From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 17:10:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA28933 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sequent.kiae.su (sequent.kiae.su [193.125.152.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA28896; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sequent.kiae.su id AA28208 (5.65.kiae-2 ); Mon, 1 Jul 1996 04:06:13 +0400 Received: by sequent.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Mon, 1 Jul 96 04:06:12 +0400 Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.ru (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA00472; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 04:04:55 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199607010004.EAA00472@nagual.ru> Subject: Re: does cgetent() tgetent() vi see if an element of TERMPATH is a file ? To: bostic@bsdi.com (Keith Bostic) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 04:04:54 +0400 (MSD) Cc: jhs@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606302258.SAA23044@mongoose.bostic.com> from "Keith Bostic" at "Jun 30, 96 06:58:07 pm" From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (Andrey A. Chernov) X-Class: Fast X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > That said, BSDI has made several fixes to getcap(3), and I > vaguely recall a couple more to termlib. I could probably > pass them along if someone wants to do the merge and pass > it back. I can merge and pass it back. Please, send me them. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 17:40:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA02624 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02612 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:40:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA02741; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 18:39:30 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607010039.SAA02741@rover.village.org> To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: Make world stopped Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:23:24 PDT Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 18:39:29 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk : almost every commit message marks a change for the better in : FreeBSD. we dont want the volume to fall too low ;) True. I'm not asking for that. 99% of the commit list are things, while really cool, don't impact my ability to make a system :-) Warner From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 18:52:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA09245 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 18:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu (wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu [128.52.46.26]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA09240 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 18:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12GNU) id VAA06252; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 21:17:35 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 21:17:35 -0400 Message-Id: <199607010117.VAA06252@wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu> To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: marxx@saturn.superlink.net, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Doug White on Sat, 29 Jun 1996 23:16:20 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: iij-ppp dropping route From: Joel Ray Holveck Reply-to: joelh@gnu.ai.mit.edu Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My polyvinyl cowboy wallet was made in Hong Kong by Montgomery Clift! >> For the last week or two, iij-ppp (or something I'm not aware of) >> has been dropping route about every 2 minutes on my system, I have to >> constantly "add 0 0 " from within iij-ppp. > You're running routed. Turn it off in /etc/sysconfig. This has probably been brought up countless times before, but what's the theory on having it removed by default? If you are routing, you probably use gated, and if you're not, it's more trouble than it's worth. -- http://www.wp.com/piquan --- Joel Ray Holveck --- joelh@gnu.ai.mit.edu Fourth law of computing: Anything that can go wro .signature: segmentation violation -- core dumped From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 21:18:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA22955 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 21:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com ([206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA22950 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 21:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA08199; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 22:18:20 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 22:18:20 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607010418.WAA08199@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: current@freebsd.org Subject: compile_et & mk_cmds? Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Could compile_et be moved to eBones, and what is the purpose of mk_cmds? Nate From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 22:25:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA26165 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 22:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA26159 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 22:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <15167(4)>; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 22:24:34 PDT Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177476>; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 22:24:23 -0700 To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org (FreeBSD-current users) Subject: Re: socketpair bug? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Jun 96 11:13:03 PDT." <199606271813.UAA02652@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 22:24:20 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <96Jun30.222423pdt.177476@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199606271813.UAA02652@uriah.heep.sax.de> you write: >See also my Usenet reply: socketpair() basically needs a similar libc >syscall wrapper like pipe(). Right now, it uses the generic syscall >wrapper which is wrong. (The XXX??'s can be removed again then. :) I think the answer is the other way around -- socketpair() works as it is and just needs the two XXX'd lines removed, no need for it to have a wrapper like pipe(). We went through this a while ago and I don't remember the outcome (except, of course, that I didn't commit anything, but that's probably just because I'm lazy) Bill From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 30 23:20:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA01750 for current-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 23:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (pp@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA01733 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 23:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au id <08873-0@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:08:15 +1000 Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with ESMTP id QAA20923; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:09:12 +1000 Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id GAA06763; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 06:09:49 GMT Message-Id: <199607010609.GAA06763@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: current@freebsd.org, jkh@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Make problems with libkrb X-Face: 3}heU+2?b->-GSF-G4T4>jEB9~FR(V9lo&o>kAy=Pj&;oVOc<|pr%I/VSG"ZD32J>5gGC0N 7gj]^GI@M:LlqNd]|(2OxOxy@$6@/!,";-!OlucF^=jq8s57$%qXd/ieC8DhWmIy@J1AcnvSGV\|*! >Bvu7+0h4zCY^]{AxXKsDTlgA2m]fX$W@'8ev-Qi+-;%L'CcZ'NBL!@n?}q!M&Em3*eW7,093nOeV8 M)(u+6D;%B7j\XA/9j4!Gj~&jYzflG[#)E9sI&Xe9~y~Gn%fA7>F:YKr"Wx4cZU*6{^2ocZ!YyR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 16:09:48 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk # pwd /usr/src/eBones/lib/libkrb # make test -e /usr/src/eBones/lib/libkrb/../../lib/libkrb/krb_err.et || ln -s /usr/src /eBones/lib/libkrb/../../lib/libkrb/krb_err.et /usr/src/eBones/lib/libkrb/../.. / lib/libkrb cd /usr/src/eBones/lib/libkrb/../../lib/libkrb; compile_et krb_err.et cc -O2 -m486 -pipe -DKERBEROS -DCRYPT -DDEBUG -DBSD42 -I/usr/src/eBones/lib/libk rb/../../../secure/lib/libdes -I/usr/src/eBones/lib/libkrb/../../include -Wall - I/usr/src/eBones/lib/libkrb/../../../secure/lib/libdes -I/usr/src/eBones/lib/lib krb/../../include -Wall -c krb_err.c -o krb_err.o cc: krb_err.c: No such file or directory cc: No input files specified *** Error code 1 Stop. # ls Makefile getrealm.c mk_req.c add_ticket.c getst.c mk_safe.c create_auth_reply.c in_tkt.c month_sname.c create_ciph.c k_gethostname.c netread.c create_death_packet.c klog.c netwrite.c create_ticket.c kname_parse.c one.c debug_decl.c kntoln.c pkt_cipher.c decomp_ticket.c kparse.c pkt_clen.c des_rw.c krb.3 rd_err.c dest_tkt.c krb_err.c rd_priv.c extract_ticket.c krb_err.et rd_req.c fgetst.c krb_err.h rd_safe.c get_ad_tkt.c krb_err_txt.c read_service_key.c get_admhst.c krb_get_in_tkt.c recvauth.c get_cred.c krb_realmofhost.3 save_credentials.c get_in_tkt.c krb_sendauth.3 send_to_kdc.c get_krbhst.c krb_set_tkt_string.3 sendauth.c get_krbrlm.c krbglue.c stime.c get_phost.c ktrace.out tf_shm.c get_pw_tkt.c kuserok.3 tf_util.3 get_request.c kuserok.c tf_util.c get_svc_in_tkt.c log.c tkt_string.c get_tf_fullname.c mk_err.c util.c get_tf_realm.c mk_priv.c krb_err.c is clearly there. Using ktrace tells me that the make has done a chdir to "/usr/obj/usr/src/eBones/lib/libkrb". What gives? Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland, Australia. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 00:34:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA05906 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 00:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ra.dkuug.dk (ra.dkuug.dk [193.88.44.193]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA05895 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 00:34:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sos@localhost) by ra.dkuug.dk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA29707; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:34:30 +0200 Message-Id: <199607010734.JAA29707@ra.dkuug.dk> Subject: Re: SysCons and option "ASYNCH" To: kenth@HNS.St-Louis.Mo.US (Kent Hamilton) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:34:30 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199606300623.BAA00226@gwydion.hns.st-louis.mo.us> from "Kent Hamilton" at Jun 30, 96 01:23:11 am From: sos@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Kent Hamilton who wrote: > > Uhhhh, Soren, did you recently remove the ASYNCH option out of > syscons? My keyboard is locking up on me left and right. Should > I try pcvt and see if it will actually work for me instead? Erhm, yes I did, because the intended purpose with this has been broken for quite some time... Try pcvt and see if that works, or have a little patience as I'm still modifying syscons in that area.... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Soren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team So much code to hack -- so little time. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 00:52:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA07087 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 00:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uu.elvisti.kiev.ua (acc0.elvisti.kiev.ua [193.125.28.132]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA07013 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 00:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.elvisti.kiev.ua (office.elvisti.kiev.ua [193.125.28.129]) by uu.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA03032; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:08:04 +0300 (EET DST) Received: (from stesin@localhost) by office.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) id LAA29515; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:07:59 +0300 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:07:59 +0300 From: "Andrew V. Stesin" Message-Id: <199607010807.LAA29515@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Subject: Re: Problem installing from 2.2-960612-SNAP Cc: current@freebsd.org Organization: ElVisti Information center X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2+] Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <17515.836174545@time.cdrom.com> you wrote: : Nothing, I think. FreeBSD doesn't like your DOS partition and probably : won't until Robert finishes his DOS filesystem rewrite/fix cycle. :-( : I don't know why this happens to some DOS users and not others : (fragment size? partition size? geometry? sunspot activity?) but : it, unfortunately, does. : Jordan Recently I've hear an idea in a russian ...unix newsgroup. One gentleman was saying, that: _if_ you originally had all disk devoted to DOS, _and_ you used FIPS later to repartition your disk and free some space for FreeBSD at the end, _and_ messydos partition became smaller than some "magic" limit -- you lose, 'cause the claster size of msdos partition at the beginning of the disk didn't change (of course) accordingly to the new partition size (cluster size depends on partition size), and this way FreeBSD msdosfs goes crazy and does all kinds of bad things. -- With best regards -- Andrew Stesin. +380 (44) 2760188 +380 (44) 2713457 +380 (44) 2713560 "You may delegate authority, but not responsibility." Frank's Management Rule #1. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 01:26:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA09871 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 01:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA09863 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 01:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA29298; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 01:23:48 -0700 (PDT) To: "Andrew V. Stesin" cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem installing from 2.2-960612-SNAP In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Jul 1996 11:07:59 +0300." <199607010807.LAA29515@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 01:23:48 -0700 Message-ID: <29295.836209428@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > _if_ you originally had all disk devoted to DOS, > > _and_ you used FIPS later to repartition your disk and > free some space for FreeBSD at the end, Yes, this theory has come up before. The only problem, of course, is that it still doesn't help us fix msdosfs. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 05:30:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA24228 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 05:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from piglet.stins.msk.su (root@piglet.stins.msk.su [194.58.175.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA24218 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 05:30:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from akolb@localhost) by piglet.stins.msk.su (8.7.5/8.7.3/akolb/260396) id QAA21491; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:30:32 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:30:32 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199607011230.QAA21491@piglet.stins.msk.su> From: Alexander Kolbasov To: current@freefall.FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW bugs? In-Reply-To: <199606281933.MAA23688@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <199606281933.MAA23688@freefall.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate wrote: > That's the DNS line: > > # Allow NTP stuff through > ipfw add pass all from any 123 to any via $1 > ipfw add pass all from any to any 123 via $1 This rule actually means that anyone with root priviledges on his local host can access any port on your local net. The rule ipfw add pass all from any 123 to any via $1 is thus equivalent to ipfw add pass all from any to any via $1 and in fact it makes the firewall absolutely open. You should not trust any remote information, including port number! - Sasha - __ Alexander Kolbasov. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 06:32:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA27164 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 06:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shogun.tdktca.com ([206.26.1.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA27159 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 06:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shogun.tdktca.com (daemon@localhost) by shogun.tdktca.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with ESMTP id IAA25224 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:33:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from orion.fa.tdktca.com ([163.49.131.130]) by shogun.tdktca.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id IAA25217 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:33:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from orion (alex@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.fa.tdktca.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA16476; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:35:47 -0500 Message-ID: <31D7D432.3D8895FF@fa.tdktca.com> Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 08:35:46 -0500 From: Alex Nash Organization: TDK Factory Automation X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Kolbasov CC: current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW bugs? References: <199606281933.MAA23688@freefall.freebsd.org> <199607011230.QAA21491@piglet.stins.msk.su> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Alexander Kolbasov wrote: > This rule actually means that anyone with root priviledges on his local host > can access any port on your local net. The rule > > ipfw add pass all from any 123 to any via $1 > > is thus equivalent to > > ipfw add pass all from any to any via $1 > > and in fact it makes the firewall absolutely open. You should not trust any > remote information, including port number! ipfw in -current (rev 1.28) and -stable (rev 1.15.4.7) has been changed to reject a combination of the "all" protocol and a port number. Alex From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 08:13:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA03369 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA03355 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:13:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14532(4)>; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:13:16 PDT Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177476>; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:12:58 -0700 To: Bruce Evans cc: current@freebsd.org, terry@lambert.org Subject: Re: Problem Report docs/731 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 29 Jun 96 00:59:17 PDT." <199606290759.RAA29925@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:12:51 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <96Jul1.081258pdt.177476@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199606290759.RAA29925@godzilla.zeta.org.au> you write: >2a) Investigate possible breakage of socketpair() in foreign libraries > (BSDI, Linux, etc). Any library that uses the previously suggested > fix of handling socketpair() like pipe() will break. NetBSD doesn't touch retval at all (e.g. they simply deleted the two XXX lines), like many system calls. Terry's suggestion of setting it to 0 obviously does no harm but is kind of belt-n-suspenders. Thus fixing it in libc will likely break NetBSD compatibility. Bill From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 08:30:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA04434 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (root@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA04423 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from campa.panke.de (anonymous225.ppp.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.225]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA09401 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:19:26 +0200 Received: (from wosch@localhost) by campa.panke.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA03748; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:16:51 +0200 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:16:51 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider Message-Id: <199607011516.RAA03748@campa.panke.de> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: cvs speedup with MFS Reply-to: Wolfram Schneider MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk time cvs rdiff -rRELENG_2_1_0 bin >/dev/null without mfs 96.41 real 35.85 user 24.41 sys with mfs 70.14 real 35.62 user 24.44 sys Unfortunately cvs(1) use tmpnam(3), which always try /var/tmp (P_tmpdir from stdio.h). Nobody mount /var/tmp with mfs. Can we change P_tmpdir to "/tmp/" or use _PATH_TMP from paths.h in tmpnam(3)? /usr/include/stdio.h: /* System V/ANSI C; this is the wrong way to do this, do *not* use these. */ #ifndef _ANSI_SOURCE #define P_tmpdir "/var/tmp/" #endif Wolfram From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 09:27:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA07841 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA07833 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id CAA00440; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 02:23:05 +1000 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 02:23:05 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199607011623.CAA00440@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, fenner@parc.xerox.com Subject: Re: Problem Report docs/731 Cc: current@freebsd.org, terry@lambert.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >In message <199606290759.RAA29925@godzilla.zeta.org.au> you write: >>2a) Investigate possible breakage of socketpair() in foreign libraries >> (BSDI, Linux, etc). Any library that uses the previously suggested >> fix of handling socketpair() like pipe() will break. >NetBSD doesn't touch retval at all (e.g. they simply deleted the two >XXX lines), like many system calls. Terry's suggestion of setting it >to 0 obviously does no harm but is kind of belt-n-suspenders. Thus >fixing it in libc will likely break NetBSD compatibility. Linux (the FreeBSD emulator) needs the same treatment as NetBSD. I think it needs a `*retval = 0;' if we fix the problem in the library. Linux uses the same method (of returning the results in memory) for pipe(), so the emulator has to do a copyout() for pipe(). This leaves only BSDI to investigate. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 10:44:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA15432 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:44:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA15418 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14477(1)>; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:44:07 PDT Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177476>; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:43:57 -0700 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: nash@mcs.com cc: current@freebsd.org, nate@mt.sri.com, roberto@keltia.freenix.fr Subject: Re: Firewalling DNS TCP (was Re: IPFW bugs?) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 29 Jun 1996 08:07:51 PDT." <199606291507.KAA06356@zen.nash.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:43:51 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <96Jul1.104357pdt.177476@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199606291507.KAA06356@zen.nash.org>you write: >ftp://ftp.cert.org/pub/tech_tips/packet_filtering has the following >to say about DNS TCP transfers: > > Because of flaws in the protocol or chronic system administration > problems, we recommend that the following services be filtered: > > DNS zone transfers - socket 53 (TCP) If you can be sure that your DNS server will never return an answer that's too big to fit in a UDP packet, then go ahead and filter port 53. If you have lots of name servers, lots of MX'ers, or lots of A records for any given name, then you will lose big if you filter TCP port 53. This recommendation is a "chronic sysadmin problem", not a protocol problem -- just add an xfrnets directive to your named.boot and you will solve the security problem without breaking the protocol. Bill From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 11:28:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA21629 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:28:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA21622 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA09845; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:27:24 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:27:24 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9607011827.AA09845@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Nate Williams Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: compile_et & mk_cmds? In-Reply-To: <199607010418.WAA08199@rocky.mt.sri.com> References: <199607010418.WAA08199@rocky.mt.sri.com> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [Clearing out the e-mail backlog... 1500 down and 50 to go!] < said: > Could compile_et be moved to eBones, Erm, why? It's a general-purpose utility/library, used by many libraries developed at MIT. > and what is the purpose of mk_cmds? It generates a command table for the `subsystem' library (libss), for which the same comment applies. I would like to replace it with something a little more modern (probably tcl), but this will take some time and work that I'm not prepared to spend right now. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 11:35:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA22379 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA22371 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA06672; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:35:34 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:35:34 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9607011835.AA06672@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Bruce Evans Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: remote make install In-Reply-To: <199606300812.SAA06100@godzilla.zeta.org.au> References: <199606300812.SAA06100@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Perhaps no utilities should use sysexits.h. It seems to be deprecated in > 4.4Lite. In all files in /usr/*bin and /usr/libexec, it is only used in > rmail, sccs and mail.local. I think you have this the wrong way around. was originally introduced by sendmail(8) as a way for it to interpret the success/failure of its mailer programs. We have significantly extended this usage to other programs not being invoked by sendmail, because it can use useful to determine what happened to a program by examining its exit status. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 11:40:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA22789 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA22775 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA06101; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:39:11 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607011839.LAA06101@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Problem Report docs/731 To: fenner@parc.xerox.com (Bill Fenner) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:39:11 -0700 (MST) Cc: bde@zeta.org.au, current@freebsd.org, terry@lambert.org In-Reply-To: <96Jul1.081258pdt.177476@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> from "Bill Fenner" at Jul 1, 96 08:12:51 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > In message <199606290759.RAA29925@godzilla.zeta.org.au> you write: > >2a) Investigate possible breakage of socketpair() in foreign libraries > > (BSDI, Linux, etc). Any library that uses the previously suggested > > fix of handling socketpair() like pipe() will break. > > NetBSD doesn't touch retval at all (e.g. they simply deleted the two > XXX lines), like many system calls. Terry's suggestion of setting it > to 0 obviously does no harm but is kind of belt-n-suspenders. Thus > fixing it in libc will likely break NetBSD compatibility. I set it to 0 for two reasons: 1) Other system calls explicitly set zero. There is an implied consistency promise that we aren't keeping. 2) I suspect that multiple process exit from system space and async versions-of/interfaces-to standard system calls may in fact lose context without explicit returns. 3) Implicit error returns bug the hell out of me unless they are well documented. None of the kernel entry points are documented, at least not in the comments in the code. This is the same argument I had about single-entry/single-exit with regard to vfs_syscalls.c: documenting behaviour in a readable fashion never hurts. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 11:43:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA22973 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com ([206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA22961 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA10492; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:42:33 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:42:33 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607011842.MAA10492@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Garrett Wollman Cc: Nate Williams , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compile_et & mk_cmds? In-Reply-To: <9607011827.AA09845@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> References: <199607010418.WAA08199@rocky.mt.sri.com> <9607011827.AA09845@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Could compile_et be moved to eBones, > > Erm, why? It's a general-purpose utility/library, used by many libraries > developed at MIT. Is it used at all by FreeBSD? > > and what is the purpose of mk_cmds? > > It generates a command table for the `subsystem' library (libss), for > which the same comment applies. I would like to replace it with > something a little more modern (probably tcl), but this will take some > time and work that I'm not prepared to spend right now. Is it used by *anything* in FreeBSD? If not, why do we have it? We recently moved out libforms since it wasn't used, so the same arguement should apply to libss. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 12:28:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA26571 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA26541 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:28:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA06982; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:27:15 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:27:15 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9607011927.AA06982@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Nate Williams Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compile_et & mk_cmds? In-Reply-To: <199607011842.MAA10492@rocky.mt.sri.com> References: <199607010418.WAA08199@rocky.mt.sri.com> <9607011827.AA09845@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <199607011842.MAA10492@rocky.mt.sri.com> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Is it used at all by FreeBSD? Yes. WTF do you think it's there? -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 12:30:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA26825 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA26818 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:30:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id FAA05509; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 05:24:07 +1000 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 05:24:07 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199607011924.FAA05509@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, wollman@lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: remote make install Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >success/failure of its mailer programs. We have significantly >extended this usage to other programs not being invoked by sendmail, >because it can use useful to determine what happened to a program by >examining its exit status. _You_ extended it :-). I only want evry program to print a good error message before exiting with a nonzero status. Error codes aren't very useful except for a small set of cooperating programs. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 12:30:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA26902 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com ([206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26877 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA10874; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:30:16 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:30:16 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607011930.NAA10874@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Garrett Wollman Cc: Nate Williams , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compile_et & mk_cmds? In-Reply-To: <9607011927.AA06982@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> References: <199607010418.WAA08199@rocky.mt.sri.com> <9607011827.AA09845@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <199607011842.MAA10492@rocky.mt.sri.com> <9607011927.AA06982@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Garrett Wollman writes: > < said: > > > Is it used at all by FreeBSD? > > Yes. WTF do you think it's there? > Which programs use it? From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 12:50:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA00673 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:50:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA00663 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:50:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA10503; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:50:23 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:50:23 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9607011950.AA10503@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Beck Peccoz Amedeo Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: new netstat line In-Reply-To: <31D19A5D.167EB0E7@masternet.it> References: <31D19A5D.167EB0E7@masternet.it> Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > The -current is giving me a strange 'netstat -r' result. I'm referring > to the line with ff:ff:ff... I didn't get it with the 2.1.0. What does > such a line mean? It represents a broadcast address. If you send a broadcast, a record of this form gets automatically created (because doing so speeds up IP output). > 10.0.0.255 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff UHLWb 1 47 vx0 ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ IP broadcast Ether broadcast broadcast route flag -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 13:07:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA03445 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA03427 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA10537; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:06:49 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:06:49 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9607012006.AA10537@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Nate Williams Cc: Garrett Wollman , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compile_et & mk_cmds? In-Reply-To: <199607011930.NAA10874@rocky.mt.sri.com> References: <199607010418.WAA08199@rocky.mt.sri.com> <9607011827.AA09845@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <199607011842.MAA10492@rocky.mt.sri.com> <9607011927.AA06982@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <199607011930.NAA10874@rocky.mt.sri.com> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: >> > Is it used at all by FreeBSD? >> >> Yes. WTF do you think it's there? >> > Which programs use it? At the moment, libcom_err and libss are used by the `kadmin' facility. It is also possible to use libcom_err with Kerberos itself (there are hooks in libkrb for that purpose, or at least there were last time I touched it). There are other third-party subsystems that use it (such as Kerberos v5, Zephyr, and my little integrated-services-object-format library that will find its way into FreeBSD in the mid- to long-term future). It's a very useful facility. I have been comtemplating extending the err(3) interface to provide Common Error entry-points in addition to the usual `errno' entry points. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 13:12:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA04168 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com ([206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04041 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA11223; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:11:25 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:11:25 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607012011.OAA11223@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Garrett Wollman Cc: Nate Williams , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compile_et & mk_cmds? In-Reply-To: <9607012006.AA10537@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> References: <199607010418.WAA08199@rocky.mt.sri.com> <9607011827.AA09845@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <199607011842.MAA10492@rocky.mt.sri.com> <9607011927.AA06982@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <199607011930.NAA10874@rocky.mt.sri.com> <9607012006.AA10537@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Which programs use it? > > At the moment, libcom_err and libss are used by the `kadmin' > facility. It is also possible to use libcom_err with Kerberos itself > (there are hooks in libkrb for that purpose, or at least there were > last time I touched it). So this is for kerberos, which is what I asked about originally? > There are other third-party subsystems that > use it (such as Kerberos v5, Zephyr, and my little > integrated-services-object-format library that will find its way into > FreeBSD in the mid- to long-term future). But for now it's only used for kerberos, right? > It's a very useful > facility. I have been comtemplating extending the err(3) interface to > provide Common Error entry-points in addition to the usual `errno' > entry points. It has *NO* documentation, so anyone trying to use it that doesn't work for MIT will end up rolling their own solution since they have *NO* idea what it's used for. Either document it or remove it please, it's taking up space. Libforms was also going to be used 'in the future' too, but given how busy *all* of us are and the very unlikely possibility that it will change I'd rather have 'useful now' tools rather than 'useful later' tools. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 13:21:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA05077 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:21:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (slip139-92-42-157.ut.nl.ibm.net [139.92.42.157]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05017 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhs@localhost) by vector.jhs.no_domain (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA13056; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 18:04:19 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 18:04:19 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199607011604.SAA13056@vector.jhs.no_domain> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Which tools can back up inodes with 32bit minor numbers ? From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany Phone: +49.89.268616 Fax: +49.89.2608126 (later) Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Mailer: EXMH 1.6.7, PGP available Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Which if any utils. are available for use in a script to do local backup of directories that have 32bit minor /dev numbers ? Any ? None ? We've had 32 bit minors around for a long time, & there's a release coming up, so it'd be nice if we could handle them easily. dump: doesnt accept a directory specifier of /dev (I dont want whole FS archived) tar: I thought tar wouldn't cope, was suprised to see it extract OK, tried again later, failed (what I'd initially expected), I'm confused by that (I'm the only root, & I can't spot a path change). Maybe I used subtly different tar invocation so that first tar did some kind of 2nd pass (like gtar does on > 128 chars/pathname, to extend beyond POSIX tar definition). cpio: also could not archive large minors, mtree: just creates dirs. dev/MAKEDEV: inappropriate for this as I just want a little script that'll make a freeze copy of what's in /dev, (including all local adjustments automatically done by such as ports mgetty install etc), not a formalised copy of what should be there. Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 13:25:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA05509 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA05492 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA11239; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:25:33 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:25:33 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9607012025.AA11239@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Nate Williams Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compile_et & mk_cmds? In-Reply-To: <199607012011.OAA11223@rocky.mt.sri.com> References: <199607010418.WAA08199@rocky.mt.sri.com> <9607011827.AA09845@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <199607011842.MAA10492@rocky.mt.sri.com> <9607011927.AA06982@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <199607011930.NAA10874@rocky.mt.sri.com> <9607012006.AA10537@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <199607012011.OAA11223@rocky.mt.sri.com> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > It has *NO* documentation, so anyone trying to use it that doesn't work > for MIT will end up rolling their own solution since they have *NO* idea > what it's used for. Actually, it has plenty of documentation, only it's in a badly-formed TeXinfo file. This can probably be fixed by a minimally competent person taking a whack with an editor. > Either document it or remove it please, it's taking up space. Libforms > was also going to be used 'in the future' too It is being used NOW. Not in the future. NOW. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 13:30:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA06186 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com ([206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA06131 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA11374; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:29:58 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:29:58 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607012029.OAA11374@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Garrett Wollman Cc: Nate Williams , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compile_et & mk_cmds? In-Reply-To: <9607012025.AA11239@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> References: <199607010418.WAA08199@rocky.mt.sri.com> <9607011827.AA09845@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <199607011842.MAA10492@rocky.mt.sri.com> <9607011927.AA06982@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <199607011930.NAA10874@rocky.mt.sri.com> <9607012006.AA10537@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <199607012011.OAA11223@rocky.mt.sri.com> <9607012025.AA11239@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > It has *NO* documentation, so anyone trying to use it that doesn't work > > for MIT will end up rolling their own solution since they have *NO* idea > > what it's used for. > > Actually, it has plenty of documentation, only it's in a badly-formed > TeXinfo file. This can probably be fixed by a minimally competent > person taking a whack with an editor. And that documentation would be where? moth:/usr/src/lib/libss % ls CVS/ error.c list_rqs.c parse.c ss.h Makefile execute_cmd.c listen.c prompt.c ss_err.et copyright.h help.c obj@ request_tbl.c ss_internal.h data.c invocation.c pager.c requests.c std_rqs.ct Hmm, no info docs there. No sub-dir for them either. moth:/usr/src/lib/libss % locate info | fgrep libss Hmm, nothing there either. Hence, my comment stands. NO documentation. > > Either document it or remove it please, it's taking up space. Libforms > > was also going to be used 'in the future' too > > It is being used NOW. Not in the future. NOW. Not in the 'standard' tree. It's being used by the eBones stuff, so move it there then. It's being used by 3rd party stuff as well, and as much as I'd like to bring in the SRI-library (which is useful in it's own right) into FreeBSD since *I'm* using it on a project at work I'm not going to since it's not useful to FreeBSD. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 13:38:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA07251 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:38:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.statsci.com ([198.145.127.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA07207 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from statsci.com by main.statsci.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0uapcv-00060BC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 13:31 PDT Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: "Andrew V. Stesin" , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem installing from 2.2-960612-SNAP References: <29295.836209428@time.cdrom.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Jul 1996 01:23:48 -0700." <29295.836209428@time.cdrom.com> Reply-to: scott@statsci.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 13:31:21 -0700 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > _if_ you originally had all disk devoted to DOS, > > > > _and_ you used FIPS later to repartition your disk and > > free some space for FreeBSD at the end, ...and mine was one such system. :-( > Yes, this theory has come up before. The only problem, of course, > is that it still doesn't help us fix msdosfs. :-) Well...I think I've heard Robert (Nordier?) espousing the theory, so I guess the msdosfs rewrite/fix will account for that theory. Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 Mathsoft (Data Analysis Products Div) 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 13:53:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA08951 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:53:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA08939 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA11572; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:53:07 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:53:07 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9607012053.AA11572@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Nate Williams Cc: Garrett Wollman , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compile_et & mk_cmds? In-Reply-To: <199607012011.OAA11223@rocky.mt.sri.com> References: <199607010418.WAA08199@rocky.mt.sri.com> <9607011827.AA09845@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <199607011842.MAA10492@rocky.mt.sri.com> <9607011927.AA06982@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <199607011930.NAA10874@rocky.mt.sri.com> <9607012006.AA10537@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <199607012011.OAA11223@rocky.mt.sri.com> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > So this is for kerberos, which is what I asked about originally? It is used /by/ Kerberos. It is not `for' Kerberos. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 13:55:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA09259 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com ([206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09210 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA11594; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:54:35 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:54:35 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607012054.OAA11594@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Garrett Wollman Cc: Nate Williams , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compile_et & mk_cmds? In-Reply-To: <9607012053.AA11572@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> References: <199607010418.WAA08199@rocky.mt.sri.com> <9607011827.AA09845@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <199607011842.MAA10492@rocky.mt.sri.com> <9607011927.AA06982@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <199607011930.NAA10874@rocky.mt.sri.com> <9607012006.AA10537@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <199607012011.OAA11223@rocky.mt.sri.com> <9607012053.AA11572@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Garrett Wollman writes: > < said: > > > So this is for kerberos, which is what I asked about originally? > > It is used /by/ Kerberos. It is not `for' Kerberos. It is used *ONLY* by Kerberos in the scope of the FreeBSD project, hence is it only necessary 'for' Kerberos, and un-necessary if you don't use Kerberos. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 14:30:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA14894 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:30:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magigimmix.xs4all.nl (magigimmix.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.25]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA14833 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asterix.xs4all.nl (asterix.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.11]) by magigimmix.xs4all.nl (8.7.5/XS4ALL) with ESMTP id XAA02080 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 23:29:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from plm.xs4all.nl (uucp@localhost) by asterix.xs4all.nl (8.7.5/8.7.2) with UUCP id XAA22645 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 23:25:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from plm@localhost) by plm.xs4all.nl (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA03302; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:21:40 +0200 (MET DST) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: can tcl7.5 be removed from ports? From: Peter Mutsaers Date: 01 Jul 1996 19:21:39 +0200 Message-ID: <877msnrisc.fsf@plm.xs4all.nl> Lines: 19 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.26/Emacs 19.31 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Since tcl7.5 is in src-current now, can it be removed from ports? This also means that tk4.1, tclX7.5 (and others?) must not rely anymore on tcl7.5 from ports, and must reference tcl7.5 from /usr/src during building. I don't really like having /usr/lib/libtcl.. and /usr/local/lib/libtcl.. But I guess this has to wait until 2.1.5 has been released? Greetings, -- ______________________________________________________________________ Peter Mutsaers | Abcoude (Utrecht), | Memento Mori plm@xs4all.nl | the Netherlands | From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 14:43:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA16912 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA16905; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA06556; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:41:15 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607012141.OAA06556@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Problem Report docs/731 To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:41:15 -0700 (MST) Cc: bde@zeta.org.au, current@FreeBSD.org, terry@lambert.org, witr@rwwa.COM, davidg@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199606291326.PAA28437@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jun 29, 96 03:26:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > 2a) Investigate possible breakage of socketpair() in foreign libraries > > (BSDI, Linux, etc). Any library that uses the previously suggested > > fix of handling socketpair() like pipe() will break. > > I think the latter is the way to go. Can anybody ask the fathers of > BSD why they didn't do it this way? They did, in their documentation (man socketpair). The documented behaviour is the same as that for Solaris, SunOS, Linux, and other OS's. If ther system does not match the documentation, the system is wrong. The documentation can be wrong independently, but the correctness of the system is measured by its conformance to documented behaviour. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 14:43:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA16929 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com ([140.145.16.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16910; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA02134; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:42:53 -0700 (PDT) To: Garrett Wollman cc: Nate Williams , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compile_et & mk_cmds? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Jul 1996 16:53:07 EDT." <9607012053.AA11572@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 14:42:53 -0700 Message-ID: <2132.836257373@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <9607012053.AA11572@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu>, Garrett Wollman wri tes: >< sai >d: > >> So this is for kerberos, which is what I asked about originally? > >It is used /by/ Kerberos. It is not `for' Kerberos. So, it should be moved to live with kerberos obviously... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 14:47:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA17271 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:47:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA17236; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA06602; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:45:56 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607012145.OAA06602@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Syscons CUT&PASTE functionality added...y To: sos@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:45:56 -0700 (MST) Cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199606291914.VAA00534@DeepCore.dk> from "sos@FreeBSD.ORG" at Jun 29, 96 09:14:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > So, my proposal is still to have a generic driver, with clean and > easy hooks to loadable modules. And IMNHO syscons is the closest > thing we have to that, and it is getting closer in the near future.. > > If I have to do that all by myself, fine, I'll do it, if we could > muster more volounteers I'll be more than happy.... I still have all of the original design documents for the modular console driver from the 386BSD days... you probably do, too, since you were in on those discussions. 8-). > Or I can just throw in the towel and let others decide and simply > do nothing (except complain on what others maybe might do......) Where have I seen that strategy used before... 8-) 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 14:54:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA18089 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA18065 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA06625; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:53:10 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607012153.OAA06625@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: socketpair bug? To: fenner@parc.xerox.com (Bill Fenner) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:53:10 -0700 (MST) Cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <96Jun30.222423pdt.177476@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> from "Bill Fenner" at Jun 30, 96 10:24:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > In message <199606271813.UAA02652@uriah.heep.sax.de> you write: > >See also my Usenet reply: socketpair() basically needs a similar libc > >syscall wrapper like pipe(). Right now, it uses the generic syscall > >wrapper which is wrong. (The XXX??'s can be removed again then. :) > > I think the answer is the other way around -- socketpair() works as it > is and just needs the two XXX'd lines removed, no need for it to have a > wrapper like pipe(). > > We went through this a while ago and I don't remember the outcome > (except, of course, that I didn't commit anything, but that's probably > just because I'm lazy) How do you put a wrapper in a foreign libc? Like a statically compiled SCO or BSDI or Linux binary? Or even a shared library using binary, without building the shared library (how do you do that for SCO?)? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 14:59:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA18754 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA18745 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA06646; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:58:40 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607012158.OAA06646@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: remote make install To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:58:39 -0700 (MST) Cc: bde@zeta.org.au, wollman@lcs.mit.edu, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607011924.FAA05509@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Jul 2, 96 05:24:07 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >success/failure of its mailer programs. We have significantly > >extended this usage to other programs not being invoked by sendmail, > >because it can use useful to determine what happened to a program by > >examining its exit status. > > _You_ extended it :-). I only want evry program to print a good error > message before exiting with a nonzero status. Error codes aren't very > useful except for a small set of cooperating programs. Exit status interpretation is the province of the shell, which can print a localized error. Use of perror() in programs is recommended, but not mandatory. EX_* manifest constancs are not significantly more useful than exit status, and are effectively IPC tokens for sendmail more than anything else, anyway. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 15:00:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA18996 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA18987 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA06634; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:54:19 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607012154.OAA06634@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Problem installing from 2.2-960612-SNAP To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:54:18 -0700 (MST) Cc: stesin@elvisti.kiev.ua, current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <29295.836209428@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jul 1, 96 01:23:48 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > _if_ you originally had all disk devoted to DOS, > > > > _and_ you used FIPS later to repartition your disk and > > free some space for FreeBSD at the end, > > Yes, this theory has come up before. The only problem, of course, > is that it still doesn't help us fix msdosfs. :-) Institute devfs. I will write logical volume management. msdosfs will operate against a logical volume, and requests out of range for the logical device will be trapped. Problem solved. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 15:04:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA19632 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA19472 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) id XAA29174 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 23:30:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by klemm.gtn.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA11117 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 23:26:39 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 23:26:39 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andreas Klemm To: current@freebsd.org Subject: X11 problems, mouse cursor freezes when trying to open pull down , menues in xv and tgif... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As the subject says I have trouble with a -current machine under X11. Since about 1-2 weeks, I'm unable to use xv's visual schnauzer and tgif for example. The mouse cursor freezes on the pull down menue ... CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE is the only possibility to re-gain control over the console. No matter if I compile an X11 server of my own or if I choose a 3.1.2 beta release. My kernel config: machine "i386" cpu "I586_CPU" ident BISDN maxusers 32 options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 options "SCSI_DELAY=10" #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options SHOW_BUSYBUFS # List buffers that prevent root unmount options IPFIREWALL #firewall options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #print information about options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG #options "IBCS2" #options COMPAT_LINUX #options AHC_TAGENABLE #options QUEUE_FULL_SUPPORTED options SCSI_REPORT_GEOMETRY #options DDB #options KTRACE options MFS #Memory File System config kernel root on sd0 controller isa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 controller ahc0 controller scbus0 device sd0 device st0 device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console #options "MAXCONS=4" device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr device ed0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xcc000 vector edintr # Joystick device joy0 at isa? port "IO_GAME" pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device bpfilter 2 #Berkeley packet filter pseudo-device snp 3 #Snoop device - to look at pty/vty/etc.. #pseudo-device vn #Vnode driver (turns a file into a device) #pseudo-device speaker # SB = SoundBlaster; PAS = ProAudioSpectrum; GUS = Gravis UltraSound # Controls all sound devices controller snd0 # SoundBlaster DSP driver - for SB, SB Pro, SB16, PAS(emulating SB) device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr # SoundBlaster 16 DSP driver - for SB16 - requires sb0 device device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 # SoundBlaster 16 MIDI - for SB16 - requires sb0 device device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 # Yamaha OPL-2/OPL-3 FM - for SB, SB Pro, SB16, PAS device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 #--------------------------------------------------------------------------- # # ISDN - parts of an example config file for bisdn # ------------------------------------------------ # # last edit-date: [Sun May 26 10:35:22 1996] # #--------------------------------------------------------------------------- options IPI_VJ # Van Jacobsen header compression support #options "IPI_DIPA=3" # send ip accounting packets every 3 seconds # Teles S0/16.3 ###################################################### IRQ 9 ## controller tel0 at isa? port 0xd80 net irq 9 vector telintr pseudo-device disdn pseudo-device isdn pseudo-device ipi 4 pseudo-device itel 2 pseudo-device ispy 1 -- andreas@klemm.gtn.com /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ Support Unix -- andreas.klemm@wup.de pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 16:40:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA00444 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA00431 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id AAA06218; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 00:40:10 +0100 (BST) To: Peter Mutsaers cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: can tcl7.5 be removed from ports? In-reply-to: Your message of "01 Jul 1996 19:21:39 +0200." <877msnrisc.fsf@plm.xs4all.nl> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 00:40:10 +0100 Message-ID: <6216.836264410@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Peter Mutsaers wrote in message ID <877msnrisc.fsf@plm.xs4all.nl>: > Hello, > > Since tcl7.5 is in src-current now, can it be removed from ports? Nope > But I guess this has to wait until 2.1.5 has been released? You got it in one. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 18:10:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA07128 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 18:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from specgw.spec.co.jp (specgw.spec.co.jp [202.32.13.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA07117 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 18:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amuraim.spec.co.jp ([202.32.13.11]) by specgw.spec.co.jp (8.7.5/3.3Wb-SPEC) with SMTP id KAA07611 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:09:57 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <31D878BD.207F@spec.co.jp> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 10:17:49 +0900 From: Atsushi Murai Reply-To: amurai@spec.co.jp Organization: System Planning and Engineering Co,.Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Ethernet 3c579(EISA) is functional? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I have a chance to use EISA 3c579 card and setting up my old EISA machine with -current as same as bt742a EISA SCSI card. And I just notce, 3c579 card is never made any H/W interrup tion even receiving packet and transmitting by investigation. Note that after transmitting a data, watch dog routine called, and then ep_intr is called by watch dog... Is there any comments? Thanks Atsushi. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 21:49:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA26603 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line9.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.141]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA26598 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:49:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00515; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:49:26 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:49:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Andreas Klemm cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X11 problems, mouse cursor freezes when trying to open pull down , menues in xv and tgif... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Andreas Klemm wrote: > As the subject says I have trouble with a -current machine under X11. > Since about 1-2 weeks, I'm unable to use xv's visual schnauzer and > tgif for example. > > The mouse cursor freezes on the pull down menue ... You left numlock turned on? Just a stupid-check. :-) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 22:27:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA28328 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA28323 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) id HAA18823; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 07:16:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by klemm.gtn.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA00863; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 07:17:30 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 07:17:29 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andreas Klemm To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X11 problems, mouse cursor freezes when trying to open pull down , menues in xv and tgif... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Andreas Klemm wrote: > > > As the subject says I have trouble with a -current machine under X11. > > Since about 1-2 weeks, I'm unable to use xv's visual schnauzer and > > tgif for example. > > > > The mouse cursor freezes on the pull down menue ... > > You left numlock turned on? > > Just a stupid-check. :-) I'd wish that it is so easy ... ;-) When I turn on the numlock, then the mouse cursor (the X) freezes very fast when clicking with the middle mouse button in the desktop background ;-) But here it happens, whenever I activate a pulldown menue in an X application even if NUMLOCK is turned off. Compile and Run tgif. click with the left mouse butten onto the File pulldown menue. The mouse pointer changes from an 'X' to a 'hand' symbol, and that's it, the pulldown menue pulls down but the hand symbol of the mouse is copletely frozen at that place, where I clicked the pulldown menue. And that with xv, too. I'm running a Winner 2000PRO/X with 2 megs of RAM. It has the S3 968 chip on board. Andreas /// -- andreas@klemm.gtn.com /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ Support Unix -- andreas.klemm@wup.de pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jul 1 23:54:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA03541 for current-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 23:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA03421 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 23:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id IAA04190; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 08:52:24 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id IAA26315; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 08:52:24 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id IAA10331; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 08:43:57 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607020643.IAA10331@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Ethernet 3c579(EISA) is functional? To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 08:43:57 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: amurai@spec.co.jp Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <31D878BD.207F@spec.co.jp> from Atsushi Murai at "Jul 2, 96 10:17:49 am" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Atsushi Murai wrote: [Charset iso-2022-jp unsupported, skipping...] I seem to remember that i once had a 3c579 working, but it was before the era of the eisa0 bus subsystem code. Have you used it as isa or eisa card? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 00:22:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA05225 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 00:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA05209 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 00:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id JAA05258 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:21:13 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA26688 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:21:12 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id JAA10893 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:20:08 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607020720.JAA10893@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: socketpair bug? To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:20:08 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <96Jun30.222423pdt.177476@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> from Bill Fenner at "Jun 30, 96 10:24:20 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Bill Fenner wrote: > >See also my Usenet reply: socketpair() basically needs a similar libc > >syscall wrapper like pipe(). Right now, it uses the generic syscall > >wrapper which is wrong. (The XXX??'s can be removed again then. :) > > I think the answer is the other way around -- socketpair() works as it > is and just needs the two XXX'd lines removed, no need for it to have a > wrapper like pipe(). It's documented to work similar to pipe(2) however. Also, it looks orthogonal to make both the same. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 01:03:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA07565 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 01:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA07555; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 01:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA00249; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:58:43 +1000 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:58:43 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199607020758.RAA00249@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@freebsd.org, jhs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which tools can back up inodes with 32bit minor numbers ? Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Which if any utils. are available for use in a script to do local backup of >directories that have 32bit minor /dev numbers ? Any ? None ? dump. cpio with non-braindamaged formats (newc, crc; perhaps a hp format). pax with non-braindamaged cpio formats. tar can only handle 18 bit device numbers. >tar: > I thought tar wouldn't cope, was suprised to see it extract OK, > tried again later, failed (what I'd initially expected), Files with a too-large device number cause an error at archive creation time for the FreeBSD version of tar, cpio and pax. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 01:09:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA07764 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 01:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from research.gate.nec.co.jp (research.gate.nec.co.jp [202.32.8.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA07759 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 01:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbl-gw.sbl.cl.nec.co.jp by research.gate.nec.co.jp (8.7.5+2.6Wbeta6/950912) with ESMTP id RAA12093; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:09:15 +0900 (JST) Received: from sirius.sbl.cl.nec.co.jp by sbl-gw.sbl.cl.nec.co.jp (8.7.5+2.6Wbeta6/3.3W6) with ESMTP id RAA22193; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:09:13 +0900 (JST) X-Authentication-Warning: sbl-gw.sbl.cl.nec.co.jp: Host nao@sirius [133.207.68.90] claimed to be sirius.sbl.cl.nec.co.jp Received: by sirius.sbl.cl.nec.co.jp (8.7.5+2.6Wbeta6/3.3W6) with UUCP id RAA29804; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:09:11 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:09:11 +0900 (JST) From: Naoki Hamada Message-Id: <199607020809.RAA29804@sirius.sbl.cl.nec.co.jp> References: <199607020643.IAA10331@uriah.heep.sax.de> To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de CC: j@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, amurai@spec.co.jp In-reply-to: J Wunsch's message of "Tue, 2 Jul 1996 08:43:57 +0200 (MET DST)" <199607020643.IAA10331@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Ethernet 3c579(EISA) is functional? Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk J"org writes: >I seem to remember that i once had a 3c579 working, but it was before >the era of the eisa0 bus subsystem code. After trying some IRQ's my 3C579 as an EISA card goes well with 2.2-960612-SNAP. -nao From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 01:45:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA10654 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 01:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA10414 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 01:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA12337 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:38:58 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA01980 for freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:51:13 +0200 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:51:13 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199607020851.KAA01980@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-current@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: arp messages (what do they mean?) Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm getting often : Jul 2 10:38:14 blues supfile[295]: gethostby*.gethostanswer: asked for "1.42.101.193.in-addr.arpa", got "1.0.42.101.193.in-addr.arpa" __^__ (IP addresses changed slightly). I'm running a 10 day old -current on that machine. --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 01:49:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA11189 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 01:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from specgw.spec.co.jp (specgw.spec.co.jp [202.32.13.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA11181 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 01:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by specgw.spec.co.jp (8.7.5/3.3Wb-SPEC) with UUCP id RAA18138; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:48:58 +0900 (JST) Received: by tama.spec.co.jp (8.7.5/6.4J.5) id RAA07074; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:56:04 +0900 (JST) From: Atsushi Murai Message-Id: <199607020856.RAA07074@tama.spec.co.jp> Subject: Re: Ethernet 3c579(EISA) is functional? To: nao@sbl.cl.nec.co.jp (Naoki Hamada) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:56:03 +0900 (JST) Cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, j@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, amurai@spec.co.jp In-Reply-To: <199607020809.RAA29804@sirius.sbl.cl.nec.co.jp> from "Naoki Hamada" at Jul 2, 96 05:09:11 pm Reply-To: amurai@spec.co.jp X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > J"org writes: > >I seem to remember that i once had a 3c579 working, but it was before > >the era of the eisa0 bus subsystem code. > > After trying some IRQ's my 3C579 as an EISA card goes well with > 2.2-960612-SNAP. You mean some IRQ doesn't work except you found ? I just attempt IRQ number is 2(9) and 15 and both is functional Windows95. Could you show me your configuration of 3c579 ? My current is Jun 23 JST and I think there is no difference if_ep.c and 3c5x9.c betweeen Jun 23 and yesterday current. > -nao Thanks, Atsushi. -- Atsushi Murai Internet: amurai@spec.co.jp System Planning and Engineering Co,.Ltd. Voice : +81-33833-5341 From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 03:00:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA19701 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 03:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA19640 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 02:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA13135 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:56:04 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA02216 for freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:08:23 +0200 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:08:23 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199607021008.MAA02216@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-current@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: name resolution (domainname expansion) Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Under 2.1.0-R I can do: ftp ftp.informatik and the system expands this to ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (as one would expect). this doesn't seem to work under 2.2-current. I'm getting unknown host instead. --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 05:17:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA03043 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 05:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haywire.DIALix.COM (root@haywire.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA03036 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 05:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by haywire.DIALix.COM (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA11974 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 20:17:19 +0800 (WST) Received: from GATEWAY by haywire.DIALix.COM with netnews for freebsd-current@freebsd.org (problems to: usenet@haywire.dialix.com) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: 2 Jul 1996 12:17:18 GMT From: peter@spinner.DIALix.COM (Peter Wemm) Message-ID: <4rb40e$a4u$2@haywire.DIALix.COM> Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Australia. References: <96Jun30.222423pdt.177476@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Subject: Re: socketpair bug? Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <199607012153.OAA06625@phaeton.artisoft.com>, terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) writes: >> In message <199606271813.UAA02652@uriah.heep.sax.de> you write: >> >See also my Usenet reply: socketpair() basically needs a similar libc >> >syscall wrapper like pipe(). Right now, it uses the generic syscall >> >wrapper which is wrong. (The XXX??'s can be removed again then. :) >> >> I think the answer is the other way around -- socketpair() works as it >> is and just needs the two XXX'd lines removed, no need for it to have a >> wrapper like pipe(). >> >> We went through this a while ago and I don't remember the outcome >> (except, of course, that I didn't commit anything, but that's probably >> just because I'm lazy) > > How do you put a wrapper in a foreign libc? > > Like a statically compiled SCO or BSDI or Linux binary? > > Or even a shared library using binary, without building the shared > library (how do you do that for SCO?)? Simple. We *already* provide wrappers for almost all the syscalls for foreign executable environments. The BSDI case isn't so simple, but since their libc is based on the same original code as ours, I'd be extremely suprised if they have changed it to take the primary and secondary return values and write over the top of the pointer that is passed. Remember, we have in userland: pipe(int pfd[2]); socketpair(int d, int type, int protocol, int fd[2]); while in the kernel it is: 42 STD POSIX { int pipe(void); } 135 STD BSD { int socketpair(int domain, int type, int protocol, int *rsv); } Spot the difference. One interface (pipe) uses primary and secondary return values, the other (socketpair) one uses copyout. Socketpair should not *also* set the primary and secondary return values as that just confuses things as their is no code in the libc to understand it, and the wrong values are returned to the user. I agree with Bill, removing the XXX'ed lines is probably the best way out. There are no native binaries that run on the i386 *BSD's that still use socketpair() as if it were pipe(). The non-BSD ABI's already go through syscall translation, so they are irrelevant. > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org -Peter From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 07:17:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA10447 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 07:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from research.gate.nec.co.jp (research.gate.nec.co.jp [202.32.8.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA10442 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 07:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbl-gw.sbl.cl.nec.co.jp by research.gate.nec.co.jp (8.7.5+2.6Wbeta6/950912) with ESMTP id XAA22855; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:17:29 +0900 (JST) Received: from sirius.sbl.cl.nec.co.jp by sbl-gw.sbl.cl.nec.co.jp (8.7.5+2.6Wbeta6/3.3W6) with ESMTP id XAA28944; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:17:28 +0900 (JST) X-Authentication-Warning: sbl-gw.sbl.cl.nec.co.jp: Host nao@sirius [133.207.68.90] claimed to be sirius.sbl.cl.nec.co.jp Received: by sirius.sbl.cl.nec.co.jp (8.7.5+2.6Wbeta6/3.3W6) with UUCP id XAA03796; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:17:25 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:17:25 +0900 (JST) From: Naoki Hamada Message-Id: <199607021417.XAA03796@sirius.sbl.cl.nec.co.jp> References: <199607020856.RAA07074@tama.spec.co.jp> To: amurai@spec.co.jp CC: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, j@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Atsushi Murai's message of "Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:56:03 +0900 (JST)" <199607020856.RAA07074@tama.spec.co.jp> Subject: Re: Ethernet 3c579(EISA) is functional? Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Atsushi writes: >You mean some IRQ doesn't work except you found ? Ya. Only IRQ 10 was good. Others are not functional under both FreeBSD and DOS7.0 with PD. >I just attempt IRQ >number is 2(9) and 15 and both is functional Windows95. Could you >show me your configuration of 3c579 ? My current is Jun 23 JST and I >think there is no difference if_ep.c and 3c5x9.c betweeen Jun 23 and >yesterday current. My config file follows. I set up my 3C579 with AMI ecu. My motherboard is 486EI. I use only with a BT747 SCSI controller. -nao machine "i386" cpu "I386_CPU" cpu "I486_CPU" ident POOH maxusers 10 options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG config kernel root on wd0 controller isa0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 controller bt0 at isa? port "IO_BT0" bio irq ? vector btintr controller scbus0 device sd0 device st0 device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr device ep0 at isa? port 0x3000 net irq 3 vector epintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device sl 1 # ijppp uses tun instead of ppp device #pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's pseudo-device bpfilter 4 #Berkeley packet filter From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 07:18:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA10527 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 07:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA10519; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 07:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA14525; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:18:50 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:18:50 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9607021418.AA14525@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compile_et & mk_cmds? In-Reply-To: <2132.836257373@critter.tfs.com> References: <9607012053.AA11572@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <2132.836257373@critter.tfs.com> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: >> It is used /by/ Kerberos. It is not `for' Kerberos. > So, it should be moved to live with kerberos obviously... By this same logic your recent import of Tcl should be completely ripped out and forgotten. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 08:25:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA15171 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 08:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com ([140.145.16.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA15165; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 08:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03697; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 08:24:46 -0700 (PDT) To: Garrett Wollman cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compile_et & mk_cmds? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jul 1996 10:18:50 EDT." <9607021418.AA14525@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 08:24:45 -0700 Message-ID: <3695.836321085@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <9607021418.AA14525@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu>, Garrett Wollman wri tes: >< said >: > >>> It is used /by/ Kerberos. It is not `for' Kerberos. > >> So, it should be moved to live with kerberos obviously... > >By this same logic your recent import of Tcl should be completely >ripped out and forgotten. > Yes, absolutely, after one year if its not used by anybody and still not sufficiently documented (well, it already is documented actually...) -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 08:38:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA16372 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 08:38:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA16347; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 08:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607021538.IAA16347@freefall.freebsd.org> To: Naoki Hamada cc: amurai@spec.co.jp, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, j@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ethernet 3c579(EISA) is functional? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jul 1996 23:17:25 +0900." <199607021417.XAA03796@sirius.sbl.cl.nec.co.jp> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 08:38:39 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >My config file follows. > >I set up my 3C579 with AMI ecu. My motherboard is 486EI. I use only >with a BT747 SCSI controller. > >-nao If you are running current or stable or 2.1.5Beta, you should have an entry like this: controller eisa0 device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The underlined portion of the line is not even needed if you are going to attach an eisa device. It should properly retrieve all of that information during the eisa probe. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 09:02:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA18353 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com ([206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18345 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA15449; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:01:05 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:01:05 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607021601.KAA15449@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: arp messages (what do they mean?) In-Reply-To: <199607020851.KAA01980@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <199607020851.KAA01980@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Jul 2 10:38:14 blues supfile[295]: gethostby*.gethostanswer: asked for > "1.42.101.193.in-addr.arpa", got "1.0.42.101.193.in-addr.arpa" > __^__ > (IP addresses changed slightly). > > I'm running a 10 day old -current on that machine. Umm, this message was removed from libc/net/gethostbydns() quite a while ago. Are you sure you've got an up-to-date libc *AND* you're running current. This looks like the classless domain stuff that Peter fixed in -current in: revision 1.8 date: 1996/01/13 09:03:40; author: peter; state: Exp; lines: +94 -60 The last of the bind-4.9.3-REL resolver merges. ---------------------------- and in -stable: revision 1.4.4.4 date: 1996/06/06 00:05:42; author: nate; state: Exp; lines: +95 -60 Bring in changes from the HEAD. Note, I'm only bringing in the bare minimum necessary to support doing reverse PTR using CNAME's, which is necessary for the 'Classless in-addr.arpa delegation' draft, which is now in use by many ISPs. This file is now the at the 'bind-4.9.3-REL' revision level. Inspired by: John Capo Nate From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 09:02:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA18384 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com ([206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18370 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA15462; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:02:27 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:02:27 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607021602.KAA15462@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: name resolution (domainname expansion) In-Reply-To: <199607021008.MAA02216@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <199607021008.MAA02216@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Under 2.1.0-R I can do: > > ftp ftp.informatik > > and the system expands this to > > ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (as one would expect). > > this doesn't seem to work under 2.2-current. > > I'm getting unknown host instead. Do you have HOSTALIASES set on your 2.1 box? Nate From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 09:58:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA22275 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA22261 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id SAA02798 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 18:58:42 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id SAA02196 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 18:58:42 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id JAA11042 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:28:04 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607020728.JAA11042@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Which tools can back up inodes with 32bit minor numbers ? To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:28:03 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199607011604.SAA13056@vector.jhs.no_domain> from "Julian H. Stacey" at "Jul 1, 96 06:04:19 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Which if any utils. are available for use in a script to do local backup of > directories that have 32bit minor /dev numbers ? Any ? None ? > dump: > doesnt accept a directory specifier of /dev (I dont want whole FS archived) But dump of course _does_ the right thing in backing them up. (You will get /dev into a separate file system anytime soon. But i doubt you will have any need to include it into a backup then. :-) > tar: broken > cpio: also could not archive large minors, cpio works, with the ``newer'' formats (-H crc, -H newc) You forgot: pax: Dunno, i think it inherits the restrictions depending on the archive format used. Thus, it should work with the same cpio formats as cpio does. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 10:39:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA24718 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24705 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA20503; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:33:26 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA03532; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:45:44 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199607021745.TAA03532@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: name resolution (domainname expansion) To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:45:44 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de, freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607021602.KAA15462@rocky.mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Jul 2, 96 10:02:27 am" Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Under 2.1.0-R I can do: > > > > ftp ftp.informatik > > > > and the system expands this to > > > > ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (as one would expect). > > > > this doesn't seem to work under 2.2-current. > > > > I'm getting unknown host instead. > > Do you have HOSTALIASES set on your 2.1 box? If you tell me where it is set. Do you mean in the environment? No. > > > Nate > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 10:40:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA24925 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24912 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA20535; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:35:24 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA03549; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:47:42 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199607021747.TAA03549@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: arp messages (what do they mean?) To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:47:42 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de, freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607021601.KAA15449@rocky.mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Jul 2, 96 10:01:05 am" Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Jul 2 10:38:14 blues supfile[295]: gethostby*.gethostanswer: asked for > > "1.42.101.193.in-addr.arpa", got "1.0.42.101.193.in-addr.arpa" > > __^__ > > (IP addresses changed slightly). > > > > I'm running a 10 day old -current on that machine. > > Umm, this message was removed from libc/net/gethostbydns() quite a while > ago. Are you sure you've got an up-to-date libc *AND* you're running > current. This looks like the classless domain stuff that Peter fixed in Will double check again. > -current in: > revision 1.8 > date: 1996/01/13 09:03:40; author: peter; state: Exp; lines: +94 -60 > The last of the bind-4.9.3-REL resolver merges. > ---------------------------- > > and in -stable: > revision 1.4.4.4 > date: 1996/06/06 00:05:42; author: nate; state: Exp; lines: +95 -60 > Bring in changes from the HEAD. > > Note, I'm only bringing in the bare minimum necessary to support doing > reverse PTR using CNAME's, which is necessary for the > 'Classless in-addr.arpa delegation' draft, which is now in use by many > ISPs. This file is now the at the 'bind-4.9.3-REL' revision level. > > Inspired by: John Capo > > > > Nate > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 10:43:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA25077 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com ([206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25072 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA15938; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:42:55 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:42:55 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607021742.LAA15938@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Christoph Kukulies Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: name resolution (domainname expansion) In-Reply-To: <199607021745.TAA03532@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <199607021602.KAA15462@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199607021745.TAA03532@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Under 2.1.0-R I can do: > > > > > > ftp ftp.informatik > > > > > > and the system expands this to > > > > > > ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (as one would expect). > > > > > > this doesn't seem to work under 2.2-current. It doesn't work for me under either 2.1R, 2.1.5, or -current on any of my boxes. > > > I'm getting unknown host instead. > > > > Do you have HOSTALIASES set on your 2.1 box? > > If you tell me where it is set. Do you mean in the environment? > No. If you set the HOSTALIASES environment variable to a filename so you can fill the file up with 'alias' for hostnames. If it's not set, check /etc/hosts. ftp.informatik doesn't exist, so whatever is expanding it is local to your 2.1R system. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 10:51:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA25543 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:51:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com ([206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25536 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA15983; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:50:38 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:50:38 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607021750.LAA15983@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Christoph Kukulies Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: arp messages (what do they mean?) In-Reply-To: <199607021747.TAA03549@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <199607021601.KAA15449@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199607021747.TAA03549@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Christoph P. Kukulies writes: > > > Jul 2 10:38:14 blues supfile[295]: gethostby*.gethostanswer: asked for > > > "1.42.101.193.in-addr.arpa", got "1.0.42.101.193.in-addr.arpa" > > > __^__ > > > (IP addresses changed slightly). > > > > > > I'm running a 10 day old -current on that machine. > > > > Umm, this message was removed from libc/net/gethostbydns() quite a while > > ago. Are you sure you've got an up-to-date libc *AND* you're running > > current. This looks like the classless domain stuff that Peter fixed in > > Will double check again. Whoops, I just checked and this still exists in -current. It *looks* like someone hasn't setup their PTR stuff correctly, so 'linus.xyplex.de' needs to fix their DNS stuff. >From my DNS box: Jul 2 11:46:05 ns named[101]: Lame server on '1.42.101.193.in-addr.arpa' (in '42.101.193.IN-ADDR.ARPA'?): [193.141.40.1].53 'xlink1.xlink.net': learnt (A=128.9.0.107,NS=192.76.144.66) I ran dnswalk on the 'xyplex.de' domain but the transfers failed, but in any cases things are a bit broken. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 12:22:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA02378 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA02365 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id VAA07125 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 21:21:42 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id VAA04084 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 21:21:42 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id VAA12572 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 21:12:25 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607021912.VAA12572@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/release/sysinstall config.c To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 21:12:25 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199607020912.CAA14084@freefall.freebsd.org> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Jul 2, 96 02:12:37 am" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > jkh 96/07/02 02:12:37 > > Modified: release/sysinstall config.c > Log: > Add an extra /etc/hosts entry per advice of Joerg. One should note that this is a workaround for something that looks like a resolver bug to me. Several daemons (among them sendmail and httpd) apparently do something like: char hname[VERYLONG], *absname; struct hostent *me; gethostname(hname, VERYLONG); /* Get my name. */ absname = strdup(hname); strcat(absname, "."); /* Force it into the root domain. */ if ((me = gethostbyname(absname)) == 0) { complain("Myname (%s) does not exist.", hname); bailout(); } This works fine as long as DNS is in effect. If however /etc/hosts is queried to resolve myname, this fails if there's no entry available _with_ the trailing dot. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 12:22:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA02411 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA02388 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:22:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id VAA07142; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 21:21:49 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id VAA04100; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 21:21:49 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id VAA12657; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 21:17:44 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607021917.VAA12657@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: name resolution (domainname expansion) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 21:17:44 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Christoph P. Kukulies) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199607021008.MAA02216@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> from "Christoph P. Kukulies" at "Jul 2, 96 12:08:23 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Christoph P. Kukulies wrote: > Under 2.1.0-R I can do: > > ftp ftp.informatik > > and the system expands this to > > ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (as one would expect). > > this doesn't seem to work under 2.2-current. > > I'm getting unknown host instead. Even if you are not in foo.bar.edu, you should sometimes read the FAQ. :-)) ======================================================================== 10.14. I'm in foo.bar.edu, and I can no longer reach hosts in bar.edu by their short names The current version of BIND that ships with FreeBSD does no longer provide default abbreviations for non-fully qualified domain names other than the domain you are in. So an unqualified host mumble must either be found as mumble.foo.bar.edu, or it will be searched for in the root domain. This is different from the previous behaviour, where the search did continue across mumble.bar.edu, and mumble.edu. Have a look at RFC 1535 for why this has been considered bad practice and even a security hole. As a good workaround, you can place the line search foo.bar.edu bar.edu instead of the previous domain foo.bar.edu into your /etc/resolv.conf. However, make sure that the search order does not go beyond the ``boundary between local and public administration'', as RFC 1535 calls ist. ======================================================================== -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 12:43:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA04077 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:43:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA04071 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA21680; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 21:39:14 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA03946; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 21:51:32 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199607021951.VAA03946@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: arp messages (what do they mean?) To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 21:51:31 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de, nate@mt.sri.com, freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607021750.LAA15983@rocky.mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Jul 2, 96 11:50:38 am" Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Christoph P. Kukulies writes: > > > > Jul 2 10:38:14 blues supfile[295]: gethostby*.gethostanswer: asked for > > > > "1.42.101.193.in-addr.arpa", got "1.0.42.101.193.in-addr.arpa" > > > > __^__ > > > > (IP addresses changed slightly). > > > > > > > > I'm running a 10 day old -current on that machine. > > > > > > Umm, this message was removed from libc/net/gethostbydns() quite a while > > > ago. Are you sure you've got an up-to-date libc *AND* you're running > > > current. This looks like the classless domain stuff that Peter fixed in > > > > Will double check again. > > Whoops, I just checked and this still exists in -current. It *looks* > like someone hasn't setup their PTR stuff correctly, so > 'linus.xyplex.de' needs to fix their DNS stuff. Hey, I said I changed the IP address to something fictitious :-) Here again the 'real' log message: Jun 30 02:48:38 blues supfile[9411]: gethostby*.gethostanswer: asked for "1.41.100.194.in-addr.arpa", got "1.0.41.100.194.in-addr.arpa" > > >From my DNS box: > Jul 2 11:46:05 ns named[101]: Lame server on '1.42.101.193.in-addr.arpa' (in '42.101.193.IN-ADDR.ARPA'?): [193.141.40.1].53 'xlink1.xlink.net': learnt (A=128.9.0.107,NS=192.76.144.66) > > I ran dnswalk on the 'xyplex.de' domain but the transfers failed, but in > any cases things are a bit broken. > > > Nate > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 12:56:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA04755 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com ([206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA04745 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA16727; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:56:20 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:56:20 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607021956.NAA16727@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Christoph Kukulies Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: arp messages (what do they mean?) In-Reply-To: <199607021951.VAA03946@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <199607021750.LAA15983@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199607021951.VAA03946@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Here again the 'real' log message: > Jun 30 02:48:38 blues supfile[9411]: gethostby*.gethostanswer: asked for > "1.41.100.194.in-addr.arpa", got "1.0.41.100.194.in-addr.arpa" Hmm, dnswalk likes things, but I still think something is screwed up in their DNS setup. With the classless DNS stuff, lots of things get confused. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 13:28:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA07377 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.eu.org [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07322 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:28:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.eu.org [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA04640; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 22:28:07 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id WAA00824; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 22:27:39 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.Alpha.5/keltia-uucp-2.8) id UAA08323; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 20:16:27 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199607021816.UAA08323@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Re: Which tools can back up inodes with 32bit minor numbers ? To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 20:16:27 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607020728.JAA11042@uriah.heep.sax.de> from J Wunsch at "Jul 2, 96 09:28:03 am" X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#2178 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It seems that J Wunsch said: > (You will get /dev into a separate file system anytime soon. But i > doubt you will have any need to include it into a backup then. :-) It would be nice to be able to dump part of a filesystem like SunOS and Linux dumps do. The Linux dump is a port from our dump with two modifications: 1. partial-filesystem support thru libext2fs.so.*, 2. use of the old format to be able to view or restore on something other than 4.4BSD as the dump in 4.4BSD-based system is only recoverable from another one. Both mods were done by Rémy Card. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #12: Sun Jun 30 14:10:07 MET DST 1996 From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 13:30:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA07523 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA07514 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA01354; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:29:27 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199607022029.NAA01354@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: arp messages (what do they mean?) To: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Cc: nate@mt.sri.com, kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de, freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607021951.VAA03946@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> from "Christoph P. Kukulies" at "Jul 2, 96 09:51:31 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Christoph P. Kukulies writes: > > > > > Jul 2 10:38:14 blues supfile[295]: gethostby*.gethostanswer: asked for > > > > > "1.42.101.193.in-addr.arpa", got "1.0.42.101.193.in-addr.arpa" > > > > > __^__ > > > > > (IP addresses changed slightly). > > > > > > > > > > I'm running a 10 day old -current on that machine. > > > > > > > > Umm, this message was removed from libc/net/gethostbydns() quite a while > > > > ago. Are you sure you've got an up-to-date libc *AND* you're running > > > > current. This looks like the classless domain stuff that Peter fixed in > > > > > > Will double check again. > > > > Whoops, I just checked and this still exists in -current. It *looks* > > like someone hasn't setup their PTR stuff correctly, so > > 'linus.xyplex.de' needs to fix their DNS stuff. > > Hey, I said I changed the IP address to something fictitious :-) > > Here again the 'real' log message: > Jun 30 02:48:38 blues supfile[9411]: gethostby*.gethostanswer: asked for > "1.41.100.194.in-addr.arpa", got "1.0.41.100.194.in-addr.arpa" Hummm... this a rather interesting thing they have done... not sure how well other systems like this, but it seems to kinda work if I do the resolv manually. SkyRsh# dig -x 194.100.41.1 ; <<>> DiG 2.1 <<>> -x ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6 ;; flags: qr rd ra; Ques: 1, Ans: 1, Auth: 3, Addit: 3 ;; QUESTIONS: ;; 1.41.100.194.in-addr.arpa, type = ANY, class = IN ;; ANSWERS: 1.41.100.194.in-addr.arpa. 86304 CNAME 1.0.41.100.194.in-addr.arpa. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: 41.100.194.in-addr.arpa. 518304 NS ns.clinet.fi. 41.100.194.in-addr.arpa. 518304 NS ns2.clinet.fi. 41.100.194.in-addr.arpa. 518304 NS ns3.clinet.fi. ;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS: ns.clinet.fi. 344178 A 194.100.0.1 ns2.clinet.fi. 344178 A 194.100.0.11 ns3.clinet.fi. 344178 A 194.100.0.111 ;; Total query time: 3 msec ;; FROM: SkyRsh.aac.dev.com to SERVER: default -- 198.145.92.17 ;; WHEN: Tue Jul 2 13:19:53 1996 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 43 rcvd: 194 SkyRsh# SkyRsh# nslookup Default Server: GndRsh.aac.dev.com Address: 198.145.92.17 > server ns.clinet.fi. > set query=any > 1.41.100.194.in-addr.arpa. Server: ns.clinet.fi Address: 194.100.0.1 1.41.100.194.in-addr.arpa canonical name = 1.0.41.100.194.in-addr.arpa ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 41.100.194.in-addr.arpa nameserver = ns.clinet.fi 41.100.194.in-addr.arpa nameserver = ns2.clinet.fi 41.100.194.in-addr.arpa nameserver = ns3.clinet.fi ns.clinet.fi internet address = 194.100.0.1 ns2.clinet.fi internet address = 194.100.0.11 ns3.clinet.fi internet address = 194.100.0.111 > 1.0.41.100.194.in-addr.arpa Server: ns.clinet.fi Address: 194.100.0.1 1.0.41.100.194.in-addr.arpa name = shadows.aeon.net 0.41.100.194.IN-ADDR.ARPA nameserver = shadows.aeon.net 0.41.100.194.IN-ADDR.ARPA nameserver = ns.clinet.fi 0.41.100.194.IN-ADDR.ARPA nameserver = ns2.clinet.fi 0.41.100.194.IN-ADDR.ARPA nameserver = ns3.clinet.fi 0.41.100.194.IN-ADDR.ARPA nameserver = ns.hai.fi 0.41.100.194.IN-ADDR.ARPA nameserver = ns.www.fi shadows.aeon.net internet address = 194.100.41.1 ns.clinet.fi internet address = 194.100.0.1 ns2.clinet.fi internet address = 194.100.0.11 ns3.clinet.fi internet address = 194.100.0.111 ns.hai.fi internet address = 193.167.251.253 ns.www.fi internet address = 194.100.28.18 > There just doing a subdomain for some reason, kinda strange but it seems to work just fine. > > > > > >From my DNS box: > > Jul 2 11:46:05 ns named[101]: Lame server on '1.42.101.193.in-addr.arpa' (in '42.101.193.IN-ADDR.ARPA'?): [193.141.40.1].53 'xlink1.xlink.net': learnt (A=128.9.0.107,NS=192.76.144.66) > > > > I ran dnswalk on the 'xyplex.de' domain but the transfers failed, but in > > any cases things are a bit broken. > > > > > > Nate > > > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de > -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 14:20:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA00573 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com ([206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA00563 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA00487; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 15:20:28 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 15:20:28 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607022120.PAA00487@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de, nate@mt.sri.com, freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: arp messages (what do they mean?) In-Reply-To: <199607022029.NAA01354@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> References: <199607021951.VAA03946@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> <199607022029.NAA01354@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Here again the 'real' log message: > > Jun 30 02:48:38 blues supfile[9411]: gethostby*.gethostanswer: asked for > > "1.41.100.194.in-addr.arpa", got "1.0.41.100.194.in-addr.arpa" > > Hummm... this a rather interesting thing they have done... not sure how > well other systems like this, but it seems to kinda work if I do the > resolv manually. This is described in the ''Classless in-addr.arpa delegation' draft proposal (I don't remember which RFC), but it should be found by searching the FreeBSD archives. This came up when I was setting up my hosts to live in their new 'C--' (not quite a class C) domain. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 15:24:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA05297 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 15:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spooky.eis.net.au (spooky.eis.net.au [203.12.171.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05276 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 15:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ernie@localhost) by spooky.eis.net.au (8.7.5/8.6.12) id IAA03512 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:22:28 +1000 (EST) From: Ernie Elu Message-Id: <199607022222.IAA03512@spooky.eis.net.au> Subject: Where is tcl.h ? To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:22:28 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, Please don't tell me I missed reading another important message in this group? I do try but I forget things. For some reason make world now returns the following error during the make includes phase: make: don't know how to make /usr/src/lib/libtcl/../contrib/tcl/generic/tcl.h . Stop *** Error code 2 Stop. This is happening on two seperate machine. Does this mean I have to install the tcl language first? - Ernie. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 15:58:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA07906 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 15:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA07865 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 15:58:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id XAA08637; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:57:00 +0100 (BST) To: Ernie Elu cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Where is tcl.h ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jul 1996 08:22:28 +1000." <199607022222.IAA03512@spooky.eis.net.au> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 23:56:59 +0100 Message-ID: <8635.836348219@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ernie Elu wrote in message ID <199607022222.IAA03512@spooky.eis.net.au>: > make: don't know how to make /usr/src/lib/libtcl/../contrib/tcl/generic/tcl.h > . Stop > This is happening on two seperate machine. > Does this mean I have to install the tcl language first? Let me guess: you're supping and you haven't updated your config file to include the new `contrib' sup target? Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 16:06:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA09164 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 16:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (critter.cdrom.com [204.216.27.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA09144; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 16:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA07574; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:45:48 -0700 (PDT) To: Ernie Elu cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Where is tcl.h ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jul 1996 08:22:28 +1000." <199607022222.IAA03512@spooky.eis.net.au> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 14:45:46 -0700 Message-ID: <7572.836343946@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199607022222.IAA03512@spooky.eis.net.au>, Ernie Elu writes: >Hi there, >Please don't tell me I missed reading another important message in this group? >I do try but I forget things. Well, you need to update your supfile. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 17:09:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA14394 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (deischen@iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA14387 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA10855; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:06:07 -0500 Message-Id: <9607030006.AA10855@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:06:07 -0500 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: ernie@spooky.eis.net.au, owner-freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is tcl.h ? Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > In message <199607022222.IAA03512@spooky.eis.net.au>, Ernie Elu writes: > >Hi there, > >Please don't tell me I missed reading another important message in this group? > >I do try but I forget things. >Well, you need to update your supfile. Can we be a little more specific? For someone that hasn't been a member of -current for that long, it's quite possible that he/she doesn't know that the sup files are sup'd along with -current. Not knowing this, one would tend to grab the supfiles from: ftp.cdrom.com:/pub/FreeBSD/sup which isn't correct. The updated supfiles should be in (after a fresh sup): /usr/src/share/examples/sup I also rebuilt make and the mk files: cd /usr/src/usr.bin/make; make clean all install cd ../../share/mk; make install before doing the make world. I also removed tcl from /usr/src/lib/Makefile before the make world. I have to admit that I was also using the supfiles from wcarchive on /pub/FreeBSD/sup and running across the ssame problem. I even searched archives and found the response to this problem was to make sure that my supfiles were current. After rechecking the supfiles in /pub/FreeBSD/sup, I thought my supfiles were current. I finally figured it out, but I can see how someone could easily get the wrong supfiles. Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 17:53:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA18237 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from specgw.spec.co.jp (specgw.spec.co.jp [202.32.13.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA18228 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:53:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tama3.spec.co.jp ([202.32.13.219]) by specgw.spec.co.jp (8.7.5/3.3Wb-SPEC) with SMTP id JAA12035; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:52:46 +0900 (JST) From: Atsushi MURAI Message-Id: <9607030055.AA00363@tama3.spec.co.jp.spec.co.jp> Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 09:55:32 +0900 To: gibbs@freefall.freebsd.org Cc: nao@sbl.cl.nec.co.jp, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, j@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ethernet 3c579(EISA) is functional? In-Reply-To: <199607021538.IAA16347@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: AL-Mail 0.94Beta Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, "Justin T. Gibbs" wrote: :>My config file follows. :> :>I set up my 3C579 with AMI ecu. My motherboard is 486EI. I use only :>with a BT747 SCSI controller. :> :>-nao : :If you are running current or stable or 2.1.5Beta, you should have an :entry like this: : :controller eisa0 :device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr : ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : :The underlined portion of the line is not even needed if you are :going to attach an eisa device. It should properly retrieve all of :that information during the eisa probe. I thought ep dirver is a functional and accept same configuration syntax as same as bt driver on eisa bus subsystem working perfectly even just write "device bt0"..... By the way, how do I set/know a port value of isa instead of an eisa port number ? I can't find any isa port selection with 3c579 window on eisa configuration utiliy... :-- :Justin T. Gibbs :=========================================== : FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations :=========================================== Thanks a lot! Atsushi. -- Atsushi Murai E-Mail: amurai@spec.co.jp SPEC Voice : +81-3-3833-5341 System Planning and Engineering Corp. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 18:13:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA19919 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 18:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from specgw.spec.co.jp (specgw.spec.co.jp [202.32.13.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA19911 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 18:13:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tama3.spec.co.jp ([202.32.13.219]) by specgw.spec.co.jp (8.7.5/3.3Wb-SPEC) with SMTP id KAA12670; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:12:55 +0900 (JST) From: Atsushi MURAI Message-Id: <9607030115.AA00365@tama3.spec.co.jp.spec.co.jp> Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 10:15:40 +0900 To: gibbs@freefall.freebsd.org Cc: nao@sbl.cl.nec.co.jp, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, j@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ethernet 3c579(EISA) is functional? In-Reply-To: <199607021538.IAA16347@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: AL-Mail 0.94Beta Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Justin T. Gibbs" wrote: : :controller eisa0 :device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr : ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : :The underlined portion of the line is not even needed if you are :going to attach an eisa device. It should properly retrieve all of :that information during the eisa probe. Oops. I should read more carefully X-) A configuration parameter of ep0 is just *fake*, right ? Atsushi. -- Atsushi Murai E-Mail: amurai@spec.co.jp SPEC Voice : +81-3-3833-5341 System Planning and Engineering Corp. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 19:07:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA27099 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA27080; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607030207.TAA27080@freefall.freebsd.org> To: Atsushi MURAI cc: nao@sbl.cl.nec.co.jp, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, j@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ethernet 3c579(EISA) is functional? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jul 1996 09:55:32 +0900." <9607030055.AA00363@tama3.spec.co.jp.spec.co.jp> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 19:07:21 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >:controller eisa0 >:device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr >: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >: >:The underlined portion of the line is not even needed if you are >:going to attach an eisa device. It should properly retrieve all of >:that information during the eisa probe. > >I thought ep dirver is a functional and accept same configuration syntax >as same as bt driver on eisa bus subsystem working perfectly even just > write "device bt0"..... If you have eisa0 and only attach to eisa bt devices, device bt0 will work fine. If you don't have eisa0 and you use the ISA declaration, it will be attached via the ISA probe which is more invasive then the EISA equivalent. >By the way, how do I set/know a port value of isa instead of an eisa port >number ? I can't find any isa port selection with 3c579 window on eisa >configuration utiliy... You see, the bt cards on EISA are slightly brain-dead. They use an ISA port address when an EISA port address would have worked fine. The 3c579 doesn't have this problem, so the port address is dictated by the EISA slot you stick it into. If you stick the card in slot 5, the address will be 0x5000 - 0x5??? (I don't recall how big the window is for the 3c579 off hand >:-- >:Justin T. Gibbs >:=========================================== >: FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations >:=========================================== > >Thanks a lot! > >Atsushi. > >-- >Atsushi Murai E-Mail: amurai@spec.co.j >p >SPEC Voice : +81-3-3833-5341 >System Planning and Engineering Corp. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 19:11:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA27716 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA27687; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607030211.TAA27687@freefall.freebsd.org> To: Atsushi MURAI cc: nao@sbl.cl.nec.co.jp, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, j@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ethernet 3c579(EISA) is functional? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jul 1996 10:15:40 +0900." <9607030115.AA00365@tama3.spec.co.jp.spec.co.jp> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 19:11:42 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >"Justin T. Gibbs" wrote: >: >:controller eisa0 >:device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr >: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >: >:The underlined portion of the line is not even needed if you are >:going to attach an eisa device. It should properly retrieve all of >:that information during the eisa probe. > >Oops. I should read more carefully X-) > >A configuration parameter of ep0 is just *fake*, right ? If you specify an EISA address 0x1xxx or above, then the ISA probe will attempt to attach to it (this was how the old "EISA" probe worked). In fact, with a bit of work, the ep driver could simply attach all of the cards it finds since it can find them all non-invasively. Unfortuantely, FreeBSD's configuration code is sufficiently bogus as to make this impossible, for the moment. > >Atsushi. > > > >-- >Atsushi Murai E-Mail: amurai@spec.co.j >p >SPEC Voice : +81-3-3833-5341 >System Planning and Engineering Corp. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 2 22:51:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA05762 for current-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 22:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA05741 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 22:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id HAA21453 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 07:51:09 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id HAA12710 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 07:51:09 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id HAA15745 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 07:26:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607030526.HAA15745@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Which tools can back up inodes with 32bit minor numbers ? To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 07:26:54 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199607021816.UAA08323@keltia.freenix.fr> from Ollivier Robert at "Jul 2, 96 08:16:27 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Ollivier Robert wrote: > It would be nice to be able to dump part of a filesystem like SunOS and > Linux dumps do. This is however only useful when _not_ using the `u' flag. Since dump works i-node wise, the question is how to handle partial dumps if not all hard links of a file are to be backed up. This would end in a restore that could break their links. > 2. use of the old format to be able to view or restore on something other > than 4.4BSD as the dump in 4.4BSD-based system is only recoverable from > another one. What are the differences? If at all, i would argue to make this an option that's turned off by default, but so people who actually have a need for this kind of compatibility could use it. (I for myself have half a dozen or more 4.4BSD systems around, but not even a single 4.2BSD/4.3BSD derivative, so it's apparently a moot point for me. :) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 3 01:57:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA19577 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 01:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pahtoh.cwu.edu (root@pahtoh.cwu.edu [198.104.65.27]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA19572 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 01:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tahoma.cwu.edu (skynyrd@tahoma.cwu.edu [198.104.67.25]) by pahtoh.cwu.edu (8.6.13/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA05525; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 01:57:05 -0700 Received: (from skynyrd@localhost) by tahoma.cwu.edu (8.6.13/8.6.9) id BAA17727; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 01:57:03 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 01:57:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Timmons To: Rashid Karimov cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: de0: receiver: FIFO overflow PROBLEM. In-Reply-To: <199606271346.JAA04521@rk.ios.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have two systems with DEC DE500-XA boards connected with a cat-5 crossover cable. Machine A is a P90 running 2.1R, machine B is an SP3G w/AMD 5x86. Running at 100mb, I can perform a successful NFS installation of 2.1R on machine B from A every time. When I try to NFS install a 2.2-SNAP (tried the last 2) onto machine B, things fail with "de0: FIFO overflow" on the client machine (machine B). This happens not far into the extraction process - maybe in the bin distribution. I am about to try this with 2.1.5-BETA, next... -Chris On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Rashid Karimov wrote to freebsd-stable: > Hi there folx, > > > I've upgraded to latest 2.2-0612 SnAP on one of my machines > here and it looks like its now mouch more stable SCSI- wise - > I don't see them resets and SCSI aborts anymore, but this > message pops-up every once in a while: > > de0: receiver: FIFO overflow > > > What does it mean in sense of stability ? Can it cause > reboot ? Does it mean the server is not able to read everything > it gets off the NIC ? > > > > Rashid. > From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 3 06:44:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA08106 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 06:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shadows.aeon.net ([194.100.41.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA08101 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 06:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by shadows.aeon.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id HAA01679 for current@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 07:51:27 +0300 (EET DST) From: Mr Operating System Message-Id: <199607030451.HAA01679@shadows.aeon.net> Subject: help, make 'whatever' fails... To: current@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 07:51:27 +0300 (EET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Latin-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk whatever i try to make including world, make, kernel, libs, includes/tools ends this way... i should have latest sups... *shrug* /usr/include/ctype.h:122: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/ctype.h:123: parse error before `___toupper' /usr/include/ctype.h:123: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration /usr/include/ctype.h:123: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/ctype.h:142: parse error before `_c' /usr/include/ctype.h: In function `__istype': /usr/include/ctype.h:144: `_c' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/include/ctype.h:144: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/include/ctype.h:144: for each function it appears in.) /usr/include/ctype.h:144: `_f' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/include/ctype.h: At top level: /usr/include/ctype.h:149: parse error before `_c' /usr/include/ctype.h: In function `__isctype': /usr/include/ctype.h:151: `_c' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/include/ctype.h:152: `_f' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/include/ctype.h: At top level: /usr/include/ctype.h:156: parse error before `__toupper' /usr/include/ctype.h:156: parse error before `_c' /usr/include/ctype.h: In function `__toupper': /usr/include/ctype.h:158: `_c' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/include/ctype.h: At top level: /usr/include/ctype.h:163: parse error before `__tolower' /usr/include/ctype.h:163: parse error before `_c' /usr/include/ctype.h: In function `__tolower': /usr/include/ctype.h:165: `_c' undeclared (first use this function) *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. shadows# mickey From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 3 06:57:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA08582 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 06:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shadows.aeon.net ([194.100.41.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA08573 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 06:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by shadows.aeon.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id QAA04508 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 16:53:37 +0300 (EET DST) From: Mr Operating System Message-Id: <199607031353.QAA04508@shadows.aeon.net> Subject: ack, again... (wrong add) was: compiling probs To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 16:53:37 +0300 (EET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Latin-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > whatever i try to make including world, make, kernel, libs, includes/tools > ends this way... > > i should have latest sups... *shrug* > > /usr/include/ctype.h:122: warning: data definition has no type or storage class > /usr/include/ctype.h:123: parse error before `___toupper' > /usr/include/ctype.h:123: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration > /usr/include/ctype.h:123: warning: data definition has no type or storage class > /usr/include/ctype.h:142: parse error before `_c' > /usr/include/ctype.h: In function `__istype': > /usr/include/ctype.h:144: `_c' undeclared (first use this function) > /usr/include/ctype.h:144: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > /usr/include/ctype.h:144: for each function it appears in.) > /usr/include/ctype.h:144: `_f' undeclared (first use this function) > /usr/include/ctype.h: At top level: > /usr/include/ctype.h:149: parse error before `_c' > /usr/include/ctype.h: In function `__isctype': > /usr/include/ctype.h:151: `_c' undeclared (first use this function) > /usr/include/ctype.h:152: `_f' undeclared (first use this function) > /usr/include/ctype.h: At top level: > /usr/include/ctype.h:156: parse error before `__toupper' > /usr/include/ctype.h:156: parse error before `_c' > /usr/include/ctype.h: In function `__toupper': > /usr/include/ctype.h:158: `_c' undeclared (first use this function) > /usr/include/ctype.h: At top level: > /usr/include/ctype.h:163: parse error before `__tolower' > /usr/include/ctype.h:163: parse error before `_c' > /usr/include/ctype.h: In function `__tolower': > /usr/include/ctype.h:165: `_c' undeclared (first use this function) > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > shadows# mickey From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 3 07:16:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA09461 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 07:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA09455 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 07:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA06316; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:15:34 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:15:34 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9607031415.AA06316@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Chris Timmons Cc: Rashid Karimov , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: de0: receiver: FIFO overflow PROBLEM. In-Reply-To: References: <199606271346.JAA04521@rk.ios.com> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Running at 100mb, I can perform a successful NFS installation of 2.1R on > machine B from A every time. > When I try to NFS install a 2.2-SNAP (tried the last 2) onto machine B, > things fail with "de0: FIFO overflow" on the client machine (machine B). > This happens not far into the extraction process - maybe in the bin > distribution. The same thing is happening no matter which version you install; 2.2 is the first version which actually bothers to tell you about these errors rather than silently counting them and pretending nothing was wrong. What the FIFO overflow error indicates is that the NIC could not get control of the PCI bus quickly enough to transfer the incoming packet to memory before the FIFO which is used for temporary storage ran out of space. There are a number of possible causes: 1) Something else is hogging the PCI bus. Check your latency timer setting in the BIOS. 1.5) The latency timer is too short, so your NIC is getting kicked off at a particularly inopportune moment. 2) Your PCI bus arbitration is just too slow. 3) Your NIC is too slow (doubtful). We have only seen FIFO overflows from these chips when running on a known-slow-and-broken Orion-based motherboard. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 3 07:47:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA14150 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 07:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from absolut-zero.winternet.com (root@absolut-zero.winternet.com [198.174.169.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA14141 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 07:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tundra.winternet.com (nordquis@tundra.winternet.com [198.174.169.11]) by absolut-zero.winternet.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with ESMTP id JAA17353 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:47:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from nordquis@localhost) by tundra.winternet.com (8.7.4/8.6.12) id JAA06395 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:41:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Brent Nordquist Posted-Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:41:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199607031441.JAA06395@tundra.winternet.com> Subject: Where is contrib on ftp.freebsd.org? To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:41:16 -0500 (CDT) Reply-to: nordquis@winternet.com (Brent J. Nordquist) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I noticed in my latest compile of -current that libtcl and tclsh want to compile. (I removed them from the Makefiles as someone suggested so that the compile would succeed.) I had pulled all the source from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src, but the contrib directory doesn't appear to be there. In fact, after examining the ls-lR.gz file, I can't find it anywhere under FreeBSD-current on the FTP site. Am I missing something, or is sup the only way to get the contrib stuff? I know there was a huge discussion about TCL going into contrib, but it seems a little strange to me that suddenly you can't get the whole source tree and compile; you need some external contrib pieces for it to succeed... -- Brent J. Nordquist Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? nordquis@winternet.com ...Who knows? +1 612 827-2747 ...Who cares? From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 3 09:09:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA19263 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haywire.DIALix.COM (root@haywire.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19248 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by haywire.DIALix.COM (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA10536 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:08:45 +0800 (WST) Received: from GATEWAY by haywire.DIALix.COM with netnews for freebsd-current@freebsd.org (problems to: usenet@haywire.dialix.com) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:05:02 GMT From: mark@seeware.DIALix.oz.au (Mark Hannon) Message-ID: Organization: Private FreeBSD site Subject: kvm problems with 2.2-960612 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've just updated to 2.2-960612 and have come across some strange problems with kvm. putte:~> w 10:02PM up 1 hr, 3 users, load averages: 1.28, 1.46, 1.40 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT w: kvm_getprocs: Is a directory: Is a directory putte:~> top kvm_open: kvm_getprocs: Is a directory top: Out of memory. (Note: I just rebuilt top from ports) xperfmon doesn't work either. Any ideas? Rgds/mark -- +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | Mark Hannon,| FreeBSD - Free Unix for your PC| mark@seeware.DIALix.oz.au| | Melbourne, | PGP key available by fingering | epamha@epa.ericsson.se | | Australia | seeware@melbourne.DIALix.oz.au | | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 3 10:24:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA27974 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shadows.aeon.net ([194.100.41.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27964 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:24:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by shadows.aeon.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id UAA05931 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:24:06 +0300 (EET DST) From: Mr Operating System Message-Id: <199607031724.UAA05931@shadows.aeon.net> Subject: question and suggestion To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:24:06 +0300 (EET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Latin-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i get complained by the majordomo that however i send my mails, either freebsd-current or just current i get replied there's something wrong, but the mail does end to the list i think... something i do wrong? (i know i just did wrong by posting this to current- freebsd, but that's just coz of the high fever) and the suggestion, could it be possible to make a flag or rather something else like 'make space' that would delete everything that's not needed if one reinstalls... if there's such a thing already, pardom my lack of knowledge... that would allow me to keep installable part of freebsd on a spare place, and not run out of disk space, since i'm quite low on that, unfortunatelly... it would be neat, i think, if the stuff would be also tgzed, and then it would be possible to call individual directory (or one single binary/library) from the packet if something breaks... 'fix broken_part_here' since i at the moment assume the weird error i posted here that i get whenever i try to compile whatever, is caused by the crash i managed to make somehow two nites ago while mirroring my system to another hd... everything else though seems to work ok, except make... but i cant be sure i might even look my suggestion myself since i think it would not be too hard for even me to do... but i cant promise i have time... and i'm not sure at all if that's even a suggestion anyone else would like... all i think it requires is a flag that while installing, also adds the installed part into the tgz... then a piece of a script that looks from a proper makefile how the file/derectory is supposed to be installed when fix is requested... could that info be saved into the tgz, since i think it could, right? or should it be just 'cd /usr/src/whatever/is/broken' and there 'make tgzinstall' would do the trick... should there be a mechanism that would search broken parts? and automaticly fix them... (on boot?) not that i've broken anything that often, this was probably the third time, if it was that at all... ok, i got carried away, sorry, happens when i have a fever, only. =) mickey net/sys admin, aeon net, mickey@aeon.net mika@aeon.net From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 3 12:55:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA20233 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from utgard.bga.com (utgard.bga.com [205.238.129.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA20222; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from faulkner@localhost) by utgard.bga.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA04130; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:55:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199607031955.OAA04130@utgard.bga.com> Subject: Re: Where is tcl.h ? To: gpalmer@FreeBSD.org (Gary Palmer) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:55:43 -0459 (CDT) From: "Boyd R. Faulkner" Cc: ernie@spooky.eis.net.au, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <8635.836348219@palmer.demon.co.uk> from "Gary Palmer" at Jul 2, 96 11:56:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is sup5 serving contrib for contrib, now? It was serving sbin. Thanks, Boyd According to Gary Palmer: > > > Ernie Elu wrote in message ID > <199607022222.IAA03512@spooky.eis.net.au>: > > make: don't know how to make /usr/src/lib/libtcl/../contrib/tcl/generic/tcl.h > > . Stop > > > This is happening on two seperate machine. > > > Does this mean I have to install the tcl language first? > > Let me guess: you're supping and you haven't updated your config file > to include the new `contrib' sup target? > > Gary > -- > Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member > FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info > -- _____________________________________________________________________________ Boyd Faulkner "The fates lead him who will; faulkner@asgard.bga.com Him who won't, they drag." http://asgard.bga.com/~faulkner Old Roman Saying -- Source: Joseph Campbell _____________________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 3 13:34:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA23231 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wopr.best.net (wopr.best.net [206.86.0.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA23226 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (rone@localhost) by wopr.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA10546 for current@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:32:59 -0700 From: Ron Echeverri Message-Id: <199607032032.NAA10546@wopr.best.net> Subject: ATI Mach 64 problems To: current@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:32:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm hoping this isn't too old hat; i looked in the mailing list archives and i found some info which i wasn't sure applied in this case or not. I have a PCI-AV264CT card with is basically an ATI Mach 64 video card combined with a Creative Labs Vibra 16S sound card, which goes on this extended PCI slot on my ASUS motherboard. When i booted 2.1-stable, the video would crap out; i think i read that this was because of conflicts when sio[0-3] were probed. I solved the problem by installing 2.2-SNAP-960612. Now it'll boot, but X won't run with XF86_Mach64; the monitor will go black and i'll be unable to switch between vtys. A copy of the output from startx follows: XFree86 Version 3.1.2 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6001) Operating System: FreeBSD 2.2.0 Configured drivers: Mach64: accelerated server for ATI Mach64 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (using VT number 4) XF86Config: /etc/XF86Config (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values (**) Mouse: type: MouseSystems, device: /dev/mouse, baudrate: 1200 (**) Mach64: Graphics device ID: "ATI Mach 64 + Creative Labs Vibra 16S" (**) Mach64: Monitor ID: "Tatung CM15VDE" (--) Mach64: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 62.50 kHz. Deleted. (--) Mach64: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 64.25 kHz. Deleted. (--) Mach64: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted. (--) Mach64: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 81.13 kHz. Deleted. (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" (--) Mach64: card type: EISA Warning: Clocks being read from the video card's BIOS, and the clocks lines in XF86Config file are ignored (see man page or README.Mach64 for more details). (--) Mach64: Clock type: BedRock (--) Mach64: Number of Clocks: 32 (--) Mach64: clocks: 25.18 28.32 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 (--) Mach64: clocks: 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 (--) Mach64: clocks: 12.59 14.16 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 (--) Mach64: clocks: 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 (--) Mach64: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 80.000 MHz (--) Mach64: There is no defined dot-clock matching mode "1024x768" (--) Mach64: Removing mode "1024x768" from list of valid modes. (**) Mach64: Mode "640x480": mode clock = 25.175, clock used = 25.180 (--) Mach64: There is no defined dot-clock matching mode "800x600" (--) Mach64: Removing mode "800x600" from list of valid modes. (**) Mach64: Virtual resolution: 1024x768 (**) Mach64: videoram: 1024k (--) Mach64: Using hardware cursor (--) Mach64: Using 4 MB aperture (--) Mach64: Ramdac is Unknown (0) (--) Mach64: Using 6 bits per RGB value (--) Mach64: Aperture mapped to 0x4000000 I tried using XF86_SVGA instead, and that runs, but my display is wholly munged. I had also read that getting the latest beta servers from XFree86 should fix this, but i'm really unwilling to put a beta server on my beta OS unless i "have to" :-\ Apologies if this is more of a general question than a -current specific question. Thanks for any help. rone From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 3 13:58:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA24886 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:58:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frmug.fr.net (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA24867 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.fr.net (8.6.8/8.6.9) with UUCP id WAA25208 for current@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:58:48 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xp11.frmug.org (8.7.5/8.7.3/xp11-uucp-1.1) with ESMTP id UAA00723 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:40:40 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199607031840.UAA00723@xp11.frmug.org> To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: typo in vidcontrol Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 20:40:37 +0200 From: "Philippe Charnier" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Index: usr.sbin/vidcontrol/vidcontrol.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home2h/FreeBSD.cvsroot/src/usr.sbin/vidcontrol/vidcontrol.c,v retrieving revision 1.12 diff -u -r1.12 vidcontrol.c --- vidcontrol.c 1996/06/21 07:20:13 1.12 +++ vidcontrol.c 1996/06/23 12:04:21 @@ -63,7 +63,7 @@ " -c blink (set cursor to blinking inverted block)\n" " -c destructive (set cursor to blinking destructive char)\n" " -d (dump screenmap to stdout)\n" -" -l filename (load srceenmap file filename)\n" +" -l filename (load screenmap file filename)\n" " -m on|off (switch mousepointer support on or off)\n" " -L (load default screenmap)\n" " -f DxL filename (load font, D dots wide & L lines high)\n" -------- -------- Philippe Charnier charnier@lirmm.fr (smtp) charnier@xp11.frmug.org (uucp) ``a PC not running FreeBSD is like a venusian with no tentacle'' ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 3 14:15:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA26011 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA26005 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:15:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kimc@localhost) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.7.5/8.6.12) id RAA00957; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 17:15:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 17:15:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Kim Culhan To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: -current will not build Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk There is an error which causes: /usr/src/lib/libc ld: invalid command option '-O' regards kimc kimc@w8hd.org From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 3 14:27:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA26854 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:27:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.eu.org [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA26844 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:27:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.eu.org [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA07508; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:26:43 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id XAA04418; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:26:16 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.Alpha.5/keltia-uucp-2.8) id XAA12236; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:05:38 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199607032105.XAA12236@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Re: Which tools can back up inodes with 32bit minor numbers ? To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:05:38 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607030526.HAA15745@uriah.heep.sax.de> from J Wunsch at "Jul 3, 96 07:26:54 am" X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#2178 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It seems that J Wunsch said: > This is however only useful when _not_ using the `u' flag. Not only in this case. Something which is great with dump is the interactive restore part of it... > Since dump works i-node wise, the question is how to handle partial > dumps if not all hard links of a file are to be backed up. This would > end in a restore that could break their links. I agree this can be a problem. > > 2. use of the old format to be able to view or restore on something other > > than 4.4BSD as the dump in 4.4BSD-based system is only recoverable from > > another one. > > What are the differences? Handling of directories and some different sizes I think. Ask Rémy, he gave me the details but I forgot them :-) > compatibility could use it. (I for myself have half a dozen or more > 4.4BSD systems around, but not even a single 4.2BSD/4.3BSD derivative, > so it's apparently a moot point for me. :) Well I used to have a SunOS laptop and sometimes, being able to cope with dumps made on it would have been useful. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #12: Sun Jun 30 14:10:07 MET DST 1996 From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 3 14:35:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA27476 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wopr.best.net (wopr.best.net [206.86.0.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA27471 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (rone@localhost) by wopr.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA12242 for current@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:34:11 -0700 From: Ron Echeverri Message-Id: <199607032134.OAA12242@wopr.best.net> Subject: never mind To: current@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:34:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Duhhhh maybe i should read the FAQ! Wow, watta notion... Nothing like a beta X server on a beta OS... rone go ahead, laugh at me, you've had a bad day From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 3 14:47:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA28698 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA28678 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA11405; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:44:34 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607032144.OAA11405@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: typo in vidcontrol To: charnier@xp11.frmug.org (Philippe Charnier) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:44:34 -0700 (MST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607031840.UAA00723@xp11.frmug.org> from "Philippe Charnier" at Jul 3, 96 08:40:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > ``a PC not running FreeBSD is like a venusian with no tentacle'' A PC without a Microsoft OS is like a statue without pidgeons. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 3 14:58:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA29471 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA29465 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id WAA11159; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:57:48 +0100 (BST) To: nordquis@winternet.com (Brent J. Nordquist) cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Where is contrib on ftp.freebsd.org? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jul 1996 09:41:16 CDT." <199607031441.JAA06395@tundra.winternet.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 22:57:47 +0100 Message-ID: <11156.836431067@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Brent Nordquist wrote in message ID <199607031441.JAA06395@tundra.winternet.com>: > I noticed in my latest compile of -current that libtcl and tclsh want > to compile. (I removed them from the Makefiles as someone suggested > so that the compile would succeed.) I had pulled all the source from > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src, but the contrib > directory doesn't appear to be there. In fact, after examining the > ls-lR.gz file, I can't find it anywhere under FreeBSD-current on the > FTP site. Possibly the SUP files that ftp.cdrom.com use haven't been updated... I can't really comment, but that's my guess. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 3 15:21:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA01747 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sag.space.lockheed.com (sag.space.lockheed.com [192.68.162.134]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA01742 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by sag.space.lockheed.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/21Nov95-0423PM) id AA19411; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:21:08 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:21:08 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian N. Handy" To: Kim Culhan Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current will not build In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > There is an error which causes: > > /usr/src/lib/libc ld: invalid command option '-O' I had this happen to me right after the big Makefile/OBJ fiasco. I bootstrapped make as suggested...and to get past this I went into /bleah/src/whatever/ld and did a "make depend all install". This seemed to fix the problem for me. Now "is it the correct way to fix the problem" is a whole 'nuther discussion... Laterz, Brian From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 3 17:42:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA11899 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 17:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA11890 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 17:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kimc@localhost) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.7.5/8.6.12) id UAA11474; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:41:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Kim Culhan To: "Brian N. Handy" cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: More of -current will not build In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Brian N. Handy wrote: > bootstrapped make as suggested...and to get past this I went into > /bleah/src/whatever/ld and did a "make depend all install". This seemed > to fix the problem for me. > > Now "is it the correct way to fix the problem" is a whole 'nuther > discussion... Now we see this error: cc -O -I. -I/usr/src/usr.bin/lex -o lex scan.o ccl.o dfa.o ecs.o gen.o main.o misc.o nfa.o parse.o skel.o sym.o tblcmp.o yylex.o ===> lib cc -O -c libmain.c -o libmain.o ld: invalid command option `-O' Any ideas? kim -- w8hd.org From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 3 20:09:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA22386 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:09:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line3.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.152]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA22376 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:09:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00236; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:09:45 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:09:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Ron Echeverri cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ATI Mach 64 problems In-Reply-To: <199607032032.NAA10546@wopr.best.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Ron Echeverri wrote: > I'm hoping this isn't too old hat; i looked in the mailing list archives > and i found some info which i wasn't sure applied in this case or not. > I have a PCI-AV264CT card with is basically an ATI Mach 64 video card > combined with a Creative Labs Vibra 16S sound card, which goes on this > extended PCI slot on my ASUS motherboard. When i booted 2.1-stable, > the video would crap out; i think i read that this was because of conflicts > when sio[0-3] were probed. I solved the problem by installing > 2.2-SNAP-960612. Now it'll boot, but X won't run with XF86_Mach64; > the monitor will go black and i'll be unable to switch between vtys. > A copy of the output from startx follows: Looks like you've missed the second part of the Mach64CT bits: you need to run the beta version of the X server, available from ftp.xfree86.org. I'm running it here and no problems. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 3 22:22:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA00370 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:22:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com ([206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA00365 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA07298; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:21:46 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:21:46 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607040521.XAA07298@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Kim Culhan Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current will not build In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > There is an error which causes: > > /usr/src/lib/libc ld: invalid command option '-O' Read your -current email. You *must* rebuild and re-install make first. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 3 22:51:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA02783 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA02768 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id HAA09151; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 07:51:10 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id HAA11642; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 07:51:09 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id HAA19336; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 07:38:00 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607040538.HAA19336@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: ack, again... (wrong add) was: compiling probs To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 07:38:00 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd@shadows.aeon.net (Mr Operating System) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199607031353.QAA04508@shadows.aeon.net> from Mr Operating System at "Jul 3, 96 04:53:37 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Mr Operating System wrote: [Charset Latin-1 unsupported, skipping...] (Hmpf. Btw., it's iso-8859-1.) Anyway, this looks like a typical bootstrap problem. I've also got it when compiling a 2.1.5 system on my 2.2-current. Make one more cycle over compiling and installing `includes' and `libs'. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 3 23:51:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA05812 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA05807 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:51:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id IAA10969 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 08:51:13 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id IAA12063 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 08:51:12 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id IAA20049 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 08:27:16 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607040627.IAA20049@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Which tools can back up inodes with 32bit minor numbers ? To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 08:27:16 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199607032105.XAA12236@keltia.freenix.fr> from Ollivier Robert at "Jul 3, 96 11:05:38 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Ollivier Robert wrote: > > This is however only useful when _not_ using the `u' flag. > > Not only in this case. Something which is great with dump is the > interactive restore part of it... Umm, no, -u means to update /etc/dumpdates, for incremental dumps. Of course, recording a dump date there implies you've been backing up everything. > > What are the differences? > > Handling of directories and some different sizes I think. Ask Rémy, he gave > me the details but I forgot them :-) The question is why 4.4BSD decided to give up the old format. I'm not against a compatibility options, as long as it remains non-default (so we would default to what we used to have). > Well I used to have a SunOS laptop and sometimes, being able to cope with > dumps made on it would have been useful. You could have compiled 4.4BSD's dump(8) there. :-) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 4 00:14:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA06988 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shadows.aeon.net ([194.100.41.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA06982 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by shadows.aeon.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id KAA11342; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 10:13:51 +0300 (EET DST) From: Mr Operating System Message-Id: <199607040713.KAA11342@shadows.aeon.net> Subject: Re: ack, again... (wrong add) was: compiling probs To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 10:13:51 +0300 (EET DST) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607040538.HAA19336@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jul 4, 96 07:38:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Latin-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > [Charset Latin-1 unsupported, skipping...] > (Hmpf. Btw., it's iso-8859-1.) yes, i know... and should change it... > Anyway, this looks like a typical bootstrap problem. I've also got it > when compiling a 2.1.5 system on my 2.2-current. Make one more cycle > over compiling and installing `includes' and `libs'. i can make includes, and mk, and clean, but not anything else... *shrug* anything that requires actual compiling hangs with the same error message... > cheers, J"org mickey net/sys admin, aeon net, mickey@aeon.net mika@aeon.net From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 4 02:55:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA16467 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 02:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA16460 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 02:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA18114 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:50:29 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA09489 for freebsd-current@freefall.cdrom.com; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 12:02:46 +0200 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 12:02:46 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199607041002.MAA09489@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-current@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: make cleandir (include fails) Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sure my fault but I have not clue why I'm always getting # cd /usr/src # make cleandir ===> include usage: rm [-f | -i] [-dPRr] file ... *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. I rebuilt make first, copied once again make.conf in place, did make mk first. I'm clueless at the moment. help! --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 4 03:49:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA19219 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 03:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.algonet.se (mail.algonet.se [193.12.207.206]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA19214 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 03:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (johang@aristotle.algonet.se [193.12.207.8]) by hermes.algonet.se (8.7.4/hdw.1.0) with SMTP id MAA07434; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 12:47:40 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199607041047.MAA07434@hermes.algonet.se> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Johan Granlund" To: "Christoph P. Kukulies" , freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:43:06 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: make cleandir (include fails) Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Sure my fault but I have not clue why I'm always getting > # cd /usr/src > # make cleandir > ===> include > usage: rm [-f | -i] [-dPRr] file ... > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. Updated from -stable to current (ctm patch 1955) yesterday and got the same error. Make -DNOCLEANDIR solved it thou. I also had to build the linker before "make world" otherwise it complained about a "-O" switch. Otherwise it went smooth. Cheers /Johan > > I rebuilt make first, copied once again make.conf in place, > did make mk first. I'm clueless at the moment. help! > > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de > ___________________________________________________________ Internet: Johang@Algonet.se I don't even speak for myself From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 4 05:14:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA23356 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 05:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA23346 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 05:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kimc@localhost) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.7.5/8.6.12) id IAA27721; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 08:14:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 08:14:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Kim Culhan To: Nate Williams cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current will not build In-Reply-To: <199607040521.XAA07298@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > > There is an error which causes: > > > > /usr/src/lib/libc ld: invalid command option '-O' > > Read your -current email. You *must* rebuild and re-install make first. Did that, found that rebuilding ld solved this problem. kim -- kimc@w8hd.org From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 4 06:19:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA25577 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 06:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.io.org (post.io.org [198.133.36.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA25572 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 06:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zap.io.org (taob@zap.io.org [198.133.36.81]) by post.io.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA20022 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 09:18:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 09:18:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Tao To: FREEBSD-CURRENT-L Subject: File descriptor exhaustion == processes hung in disk wait? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Subject pretty much says it all. Our main Web server (63 virtual domains, a few thousand other personal/business pages, 0.5M hits/day) had been crashing or hanging under 2.1.0R once every few days, so I upgraded to 2.2-960501-SNAP. After the initial twiddling, it has now been up for 17 days and counting. :) Just yesterday though, I started noticing httpd processes stuck in disk wait. We did have a problem with one of our secondary NFS servers that morning, and I had to kill off a bunch of D-state processes, but the server was able to recover nicely from that. Even after restarting Apache, the number of D-state processes would slowly increase. I was paged this morning and found that the Web server was extremely sluggish. Apache had hit the 150-process limit I had specified in httpd.conf, with most of them in disk wait. fstat showed that each httpd had 133 file descriptors open (stdin, stdout, stderr, 2*(# of domains), /tmp/htstatus, two sockets, plus HTML file). The output of fstat was 20931 lines long, with 20264 of them belonging to userid "nobody". Isn't this supposed to be limited by kern.maxfiles and kern.maxfilesperproc? Both are set to 4136 in the kernel. Should I recompile? I don't see any NFS-related errors or warnings in syslog (thinking the NFS server may have been dropping off for a few seconds here and there). As a last resort, I could reboot the server to see if the problem goes away, but that doesn't really help solve it. :-/ -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org, taob@ican.net) Systems and Network Administrator, Internet Canada Corp. "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 4 08:16:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA01562 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 08:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [205.150.102.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA01557 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 08:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id LAA20345; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:15:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:15:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: "Christoph P. Kukulies" cc: freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: make cleandir (include fails) In-Reply-To: <199607041002.MAA09489@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Christoph P. Kukulies wrote: > > Sure my fault but I have not clue why I'm always getting > # cd /usr/src > # make cleandir > ===> include > usage: rm [-f | -i] [-dPRr] file ... > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > I rebuilt make first, copied once again make.conf in place, > did make mk first. I'm clueless at the moment. help! > make mk? did you do a 'cd /usr/src/share/mk; make install'? Marc G. Fournier scrappy@ki.net Systems Administrator @ ki.net scrappy@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 4 09:57:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA06092 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 09:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parkplace.cet.co.jp (parkplace.cet.co.jp [202.32.64.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA06087 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 09:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (michaelh@localhost) by parkplace.cet.co.jp (8.7.5/CET-v2.1) with SMTP id QAA17058; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:57:36 GMT Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 01:57:35 +0900 (JST) From: Michael Hancock To: Kim Culhan cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current will not build In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Kim Culhan wrote: > > > /usr/src/lib/libc ld: invalid command option '-O' > > > > Read your -current email. You *must* rebuild and re-install make first. > > Did that, found that rebuilding ld solved this problem. We should probably tell people to build lib-tools too. make lib-tools Mike Hancock From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 4 10:19:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA06932 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 10:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA06920 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 10:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA22946; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 19:15:23 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA12411; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 19:27:39 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199607041727.TAA12411@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: make cleandir (include fails) To: scrappy@ki.net (Marc G. Fournier) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 19:27:38 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de, freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Marc G. Fournier" at "Jul 4, 96 11:15:17 am" Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Christoph P. Kukulies wrote: > > > > > Sure my fault but I have not clue why I'm always getting x > > # cd /usr/src > > # make cleandir > > ===> include > > usage: rm [-f | -i] [-dPRr] file ... > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop. > > > > I rebuilt make first, copied once again make.conf in place, > > did make mk first. I'm clueless at the moment. help! > > > make mk? did you do a 'cd /usr/src/share/mk; make install'? Yep. make mk implies this. > > > Marc G. Fournier scrappy@ki.net > Systems Administrator @ ki.net scrappy@freebsd.org > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 4 10:29:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA07334 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 10:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [205.150.102.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA07329 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 10:29:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id NAA00576; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:27:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:27:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: "Christoph P. Kukulies" cc: freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: make cleandir (include fails) In-Reply-To: <199607041727.TAA12411@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Christoph P. Kukulies wrote: > Yep. make mk implies this. > 'K, just wanted to make sure :) I had the same problem until I recompiled make, but someone else mentioned recompiling 'ld' as well...didn't notice that problem over here though... Marc G. Fournier scrappy@ki.net Systems Administrator @ ki.net scrappy@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 4 12:29:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA14407 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 12:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (root@cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA14402 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 12:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from why.whine.com ([205.150.249.1]) by mail.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <115630-7621>; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:29:12 -0400 Received: from why (andrew@why [205.150.249.1]) by why.whine.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA14412 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:29:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:29:05 -0400 From: Andrew Herdman X-Sender: andrew@why To: current@freebsd.org Subject: make world dies on tcl Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I get the following when building current. cd /usr/src/lib/libskey; cmp -s skey.h /usr/include/skey.h || install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 skey.h /usr/include cd /usr/src/lib/libtcl && make beforeinstall make: don't know how to make /usr/src/lib/libtcl/../../contrib/tcl/generic/tcl.h. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop. I just sup'd yesterday so is it something i haven't done, or is it broken? Andrew From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 4 14:09:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA26713 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grumble.grondar.za (root@grumble.grondar.za [196.7.18.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA26683 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:08:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grumble.grondar.za (mark@localhost.grondar.za [127.0.0.1]) by grumble.grondar.za (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA07924; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 23:08:35 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199607042108.XAA07924@grumble.grondar.za> To: Andrew Herdman cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world dies on tcl Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 23:08:33 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Andrew Herdman wrote: > I get the following when building current. > > cd /usr/src/lib/libskey; cmp -s skey.h /usr/include/skey.h || install -c > -o bin -g bin -m 444 skey.h /usr/include > cd /usr/src/lib/libtcl && make beforeinstall > make: don't know how to make > /usr/src/lib/libtcl/../../contrib/tcl/generic/tcl.h. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > Stop. > > I just sup'd yesterday so is it something i haven't done, or is it broken? Update your supfile (from share/examples/sup) to include contrib. M -- Mark Murray 46 Harvey Rd, Claremont, Cape Town 7700, South Africa +27 21 61-3768 GMT+0200 Finger mark@grondar.za for PGP key From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 4 22:16:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA18236 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA18225; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.5/8.6.9) id WAA00978; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607050515.WAA00978@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: bde@zeta.org.au CC: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199606271012.UAA05121@godzilla.zeta.org.au> (message from Bruce Evans on Thu, 27 Jun 1996 20:12:55 +1000) Subject: Re: Building inside of /usr/src? From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * MAKEOBJTREE is named to suggest that it belongs to make(1). BSDOBJDIR * was only a little-known variable in the (Free?)BSD makefiles. Now it is * only a little-used variable in bsd.port.mk. There has to be such a Speaking of which, can we now back out the mods in bsd.port.mk to support the uuencoded tarball stuff? Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 4 23:12:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA23028 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 23:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA23016; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 23:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA13639; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 23:12:23 -0700 (PDT) To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: bde@zeta.org.au, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Building inside of /usr/src? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Jul 1996 22:15:36 PDT." <199607050515.WAA00978@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 23:12:23 -0700 Message-ID: <13637.836547143@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for the reminder - I've been meaning to do this. Done. Jordan > * MAKEOBJTREE is named to suggest that it belongs to make(1). BSDOBJDIR > * was only a little-known variable in the (Free?)BSD makefiles. Now it is > * only a little-used variable in bsd.port.mk. There has to be such a > > Speaking of which, can we now back out the mods in bsd.port.mk to > support the uuencoded tarball stuff? > > Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 5 00:22:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA26513 for current-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 00:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA26507 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 00:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id JAA26286; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 09:21:30 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA22665; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 09:21:30 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id IAA23900; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:45:14 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607050645.IAA23900@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: ack, again... (wrong add) was: compiling probs To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:45:14 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd@shadows.aeon.net (Mr Operating System) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199607040713.KAA11342@shadows.aeon.net> from Mr Operating System at "Jul 4, 96 10:13:51 am" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Mr Operating System wrote: [Charset Latin-1 unsupported, skipping...] > Anyway, this looks like a typical bootstrap problem. I've also got it > when compiling a 2.1.5 system on my 2.2-current. Make one more cycle > over compiling and installing `includes' and `libs'. i can make includes, and mk, and clean, but not anything else... == Are you sure you've killed your old .depend files? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 5 10:33:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA12267 for current-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:33:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12257 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA12879 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:33:04 -0400 From: Charles Henrich Message-Id: <199607051733.NAA12879@crh.cl.msu.edu> Subject: 2.2-960612-SNAP To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:33:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hey Folks, I just installed this lil beasty on a IBM 486, and I have to say, you folks are INCREDIBLE! Kernel compile time of 20 minutes, down from about 42 under 2.1R, amazing amazing amazing! WooHoo! Thanks much and keep up the fantastic work! -Crh Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 5 11:23:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA19561 for current-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kithrup.com (kithrup.com [205.179.156.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA19552 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sef@localhost) by kithrup.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id LAA09038; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:23:06 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:23:06 -0700 From: Sean Eric Fagan Message-Id: <199607051823.LAA09038@kithrup.com> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.2-960612-SNAP Newsgroups: kithrup.freebsd.current In-Reply-To: <199607051733.NAA12879.kithrup.freebsd.current@crh.cl.msu.edu> Organization: Kithrup Enterprises, Ltd. Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <199607051733.NAA12879.kithrup.freebsd.current@crh.cl.msu.edu> Charles Henrich (henrich@crh.cl.msu.edu) wrote: >Hey Folks, I just installed this lil beasty on a IBM 486, and I have to say, >you folks are INCREDIBLE! Kernel compile time of 20 minutes, down from about >42 under 2.1R, amazing amazing amazing! Whoa. How'd that happen? Don't these folks know that operating systems are supposed to get bigger and faster with each release?! Huh? From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 5 12:22:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA00293 for current-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00277 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:22:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id UAA17349; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 20:22:00 +0100 (BST) To: Sean Eric Fagan cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: 2.2-960612-SNAP In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Jul 1996 11:23:06 PDT." <199607051823.LAA09038@kithrup.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 20:21:59 +0100 Message-ID: <17346.836594519@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sean Eric Fagan wrote in message ID <199607051823.LAA09038@kithrup.com>: > Whoa. > > How'd that happen? > > Don't these folks know that operating systems are supposed to get bigger and > faster with each release?! Huh? You, of course, mean `bigger and slower', surely? :-) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 5 21:34:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA10927 for current-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 21:34:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.kconline.com (ns.kconline.com [207.51.167.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA10922 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 21:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jriffle@localhost) by ns.kconline.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA01998 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 23:31:27 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 23:31:27 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Riffle To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: ppp - redialing but loosing route Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just recently upgraded to version 2.2-Current and have run into a little snag with my PPP connection. I use the -auto switch with ppp, so it will automatically dial and redial when the link gets broken. Ever since I upgraded to Current, after rebooting, or shutting of the modem and turning it back on, it will dial out and function just fine. However my ISP runs WorldGroup BBS software, which cleans up at 5:00AM each morning, which cuts off the connection. The modem will then redial and reconnect and everything just fine, but I will be unable to get out on the net. I get a "no route to host" message from things like ping. In order to fix this, I can simply turn off the modem for a few seconds and turn it back on. This has it redial and everything then works just fine. I am running routed with the -s flag. Is there a command that I can perhaps have cron run at 5:05 to re-esablish the route? Or perhaps a better alternative? I am using a snap which is a few weeks old, right now I am ftping the ctm deltas, so will try to recompile ppp and pppd with the latest sources. Is this perhaps a bug that has been fixed in the last couple of weeks? Or do I just have something incorrectly configured? I had this running on 2.1-Release for quite some time without any problem. Thank you, Jim Riffle From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 6 01:13:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA01860 for current-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 01:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA01820 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 01:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA11316 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 10:13:00 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199607060813.KAA11316@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: man4/man4.i386 installation problems To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD-current) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 10:13:00 +0200 (SAT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I noticed that the man pages in the man4.i386 directory has last been installed May. Is it just on my machine or is there some still problem with the make process? John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 6 11:22:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA27116 for current-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 11:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux.local.net (sansig@line06.globalnet.it [194.185.53.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA27097 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 11:21:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (sansig@localhost) by linux.local.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA01939 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 20:21:13 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: linux.local.net: sansig owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 20:21:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: Sandro Sigala X-Sender: sansig@linux.local.net To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: PSD Documents (/usr/src/share/doc/psd/*) from 4.4BSD-Lite2? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The PSD documents (also the SMM and USD ?) are from 4.4BSD-Lite, will they be updated from the 4.4BSD-Lite2? From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 6 12:15:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA00270 for current-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 12:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00259 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 12:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id OAA03156 for current@freebsd.org; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:15:47 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199607061915.OAA03156@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Is it just my imagination? To: current@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:15:47 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: dyson@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have just tried the latest version of Netscape, and it appears to load much faster... Am I wrong, or did they do something? John From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 6 13:22:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA02630 for current-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rosie.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA02624 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cola83.scsn.net ([206.25.247.83]) by rosie.scsn.net (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-13529) with SMTP id AAA212 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 16:25:05 -0400 X-Sender: dmaddox@popmail.scsn.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: dmaddox@scsn.net (Donald J. Maddox) Subject: Where is contrib/tcl? Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 16:25:05 -0400 Message-ID: <19960706202504001.AAA212@cola83.scsn.net> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok, I give up... When I do a full sup (using the standard supfile), I don't get contrib/tcl, and I can't find it any where on ftp.freebsd.org. If -current won't build without tcl, why isn't it included in a full sup? Donald J. Maddox From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 6 15:51:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA09230 for current-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:51:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (slip139-92-42-141.ut.nl.ibm.net [139.92.42.141]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA09220; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.jhs.no_domain (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA23586; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 16:14:21 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199607061414.QAA23586@vector.jhs.no_domain> To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org (FreeBSD-current users) Subject: Re: Which tools can back up inodes with 32bit minor numbers ? From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany Phone: +49.89.268616 Fax: +49.89.2608126 (later) Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Mailer: EXMH 1.6.7, PGP available In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jul 1996 09:28:03 +0200." <199607020728.JAA11042@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 16:14:20 +0200 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Reference: > From: J Wunsch > As Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > Which if any utils. are available for use in a script to do local backup of > > directories that have 32bit minor /dev numbers ? Any ? None ? > > dump: > > doesnt accept a directory specifier of /dev (I dont want whole FS archive - d) > (You will get /dev into a separate file system anytime soon. But i > doubt you will have any need to include it into a backup then. :-) One can run MAKEDEV to rebuild standard stuff, but after working away at /dev & various other dirs. with various ports & private stuff, EG fax + uucp + slip + getty etc, it's nice to be able to make a complete backup of a working system. > cpio works, with the ``newer'' formats (-H crc, -H newc) Thanks ! Just the (in man/ undocumented) magic I needed :-) Could you consider applying: *** old/src/gnu/usr.bin/cpio/cpio.1 Sat Jul 6 15:52:44 1996 --- new/src/gnu/usr.bin/cpio/cpio.1 Sat Jul 6 15:56:44 1996 *************** *** 198,203 **** --- 198,205 ---- .IP newc The new (SVR4) portable format, which supports file systems having more than 65536 i-nodes. + This format supports devices with 32 bit minor numbers, + (such as are found in FreeBSD 2.2). .IP crc The new (SVR4) portable format with a checksum added. .IP tar Also, perhaps we should s/GNU/GNU (& thus FreeBSD etc)/ in the (formatted) chunk: The new ASCII format is portable between different machine architectures and can be used on any size file system, but is not supported by all versions of cpio; currently, it is only supported by GNU and Unix System V R4. The crc format is like the new ASCII format, but also contains a checksum > You forgot: > pax: ..... I'm conservative, I don't use pax ;-) (far as I know, it's just a new wrapper, not on many commercial Unixes, for formats also available by tar & cpio, & I have enough trouble remembering cpio parameters). Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 6 16:11:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA10128 for current-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 16:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [205.150.102.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA10122 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 16:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id TAA05404 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:11:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:11:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" Reply-To: "Marc G. Fournier" To: current@freebsd.org Subject: New install using 2.2-SNAP ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi... I missed *something* when I installed a 2.2-SNAP machine on a client's network, and I'm not 100% certain if its an install setup I missed, or if its somethign to do with the hardware :( Basically, I've installed it onto a 486DX4-100 with a 1.2Gig Quantum Fireball (IDE), and for some reason, I can't get it to boot off the hard drive. I'm using the onboard IDE, and the install went cleanly, as I can boot if I use the floppy and then go to wd(0,a)/kernel... As that is about all the information that I have...can anyone think of a reason why it doesn't work? And a way to fix it without having to reinstall? Thanks... Marc G. Fournier scrappy@ki.net Systems Administrator @ ki.net scrappy@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 6 17:49:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA14110 for current-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14105 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA14622; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:49:24 -0700 (PDT) To: dmaddox@scsn.net (Donald J. Maddox) cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is contrib/tcl? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Jul 1996 16:25:05 EDT." <19960706202504001.AAA212@cola83.scsn.net> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 17:49:24 -0700 Message-ID: <14620.836700564@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You need another "standard supfile" - it has been committed to -current. Jordan > Ok, I give up... When I do a full sup (using the standard supfile), I > don't get contrib/tcl, and I can't find it any where on ftp.freebsd.org. If > -current won't build without tcl, why isn't it included in a full sup? > Donald J. Maddo x > From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 6 17:58:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA14328 for current-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14323 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA14679; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:58:27 -0700 (PDT) To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New install using 2.2-SNAP ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Jul 1996 19:11:11 EDT." Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 17:58:27 -0700 Message-ID: <14677.836701107@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Have you read the installation guide and the FAQ? Paying special attention to the section(s) where disk geometry is mentioned? :-) Jordan > > > Hi... > > I missed *something* when I installed a 2.2-SNAP machine on a > client's network, and I'm not 100% certain if its an install setup I > missed, or if its somethign to do with the hardware :( > > Basically, I've installed it onto a 486DX4-100 with a 1.2Gig > Quantum Fireball (IDE), and for some reason, I can't get it to boot off > the hard drive. > > I'm using the onboard IDE, and the install went cleanly, as I > can boot if I use the floppy and then go to wd(0,a)/kernel... > > As that is about all the information that I have...can anyone > think of a reason why it doesn't work? And a way to fix it without > having to reinstall? > > Thanks... > > Marc G. Fournier scrappy@ki.net > Systems Administrator @ ki.net scrappy@freebsd.org > > From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 6 18:16:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA15083 for current-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (root@cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA15077 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from why.whine.com ([205.150.249.1]) by mail.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <115453-9412>; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:16:16 -0400 Received: from why (andrew@why [205.150.249.1]) by why.whine.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA00431; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:16:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:16:10 -0400 From: Andrew Herdman X-Sender: andrew@why To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: New install using 2.2-SNAP ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > Hi... > > I missed *something* when I installed a 2.2-SNAP machine on a > client's network, and I'm not 100% certain if its an install setup I > missed, or if its somethign to do with the hardware :( > > Basically, I've installed it onto a 486DX4-100 with a 1.2Gig > Quantum Fireball (IDE), and for some reason, I can't get it to boot off > the hard drive. > > I'm using the onboard IDE, and the install went cleanly, as I > can boot if I use the floppy and then go to wd(0,a)/kernel... > > As that is about all the information that I have...can anyone > think of a reason why it doesn't work? And a way to fix it without > having to reinstall? > > Thanks... > > Marc G. Fournier scrappy@ki.net > Systems Administrator @ ki.net scrappy@freebsd.org > > Shame on you, setting up a poor helpless client with -current... tsk tsk... Andrew From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 6 18:34:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA15762 for current-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [205.150.102.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA15757 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id VAA06883; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:34:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:34:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Andrew Herdman cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: New install using 2.2-SNAP ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Andrew Herdman wrote: > Shame on you, setting up a poor helpless client with -current... tsk tsk... > Making assumptions that the client is helpless, eh? tsk tsk, shame on you :) Marc G. Fournier scrappy@ki.net Systems Administrator @ ki.net scrappy@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 6 18:39:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA16115 for current-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [205.150.102.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA16106 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id VAA06931; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:39:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New install using 2.2-SNAP ... In-Reply-To: <14677.836701107@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Have you read the installation guide and the FAQ? Paying special > attention to the section(s) where disk geometry is mentioned? :-) > *groan* this is only a problem with IDE, isn't it? :( Ah well...I'll go back to my quiet hole now :( > Jordan > > > > > > > Hi... > > > > I missed *something* when I installed a 2.2-SNAP machine on a > > client's network, and I'm not 100% certain if its an install setup I > > missed, or if its somethign to do with the hardware :( > > > > Basically, I've installed it onto a 486DX4-100 with a 1.2Gig > > Quantum Fireball (IDE), and for some reason, I can't get it to boot off > > the hard drive. > > > > I'm using the onboard IDE, and the install went cleanly, as I > > can boot if I use the floppy and then go to wd(0,a)/kernel... > > > > As that is about all the information that I have...can anyone > > think of a reason why it doesn't work? And a way to fix it without > > having to reinstall? > > > > Thanks... > > > > Marc G. Fournier scrappy@ki.net > > Systems Administrator @ ki.net scrappy@freebsd.org > > > > > Marc G. Fournier scrappy@ki.net Systems Administrator @ ki.net scrappy@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 6 18:41:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA16376 for current-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA16371 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA14934; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:41:10 -0700 (PDT) To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New install using 2.2-SNAP ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Jul 1996 21:39:23 EDT." Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 18:41:10 -0700 Message-ID: <14932.836703670@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > Have you read the installation guide and the FAQ? Paying special > > attention to the section(s) where disk geometry is mentioned? :-) > > > *groan* this is only a problem with IDE, isn't it? :( It's a problem with all drives. > Ah well...I'll go back to my quiet hole now :( No need, just be more willing to RTFM first and often. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 6 18:59:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA17291 for current-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (root@cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17286 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from why.whine.com ([205.150.249.1]) by mail.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <115452-10802>; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:58:55 -0400 Received: from why (andrew@why [205.150.249.1]) by why.whine.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA00575; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:58:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:58:48 -0400 From: Andrew Herdman X-Sender: andrew@why To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: New install using 2.2-SNAP ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Andrew Herdman wrote: > > > Shame on you, setting up a poor helpless client with -current... tsk tsk... > > > Making assumptions that the client is helpless, eh? tsk tsk, shame > on you :) Last one for the list...... But if they couldn't install it themselves, they shouldn't be running current. Andrew From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 6 19:58:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA19869 for current-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [205.150.102.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA19863 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id WAA08308; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 22:58:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 22:58:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New install using 2.2-SNAP ... In-Reply-To: <14932.836703670@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > > Have you read the installation guide and the FAQ? Paying special > > > attention to the section(s) where disk geometry is mentioned? :-) > > > > > *groan* this is only a problem with IDE, isn't it? :( > > It's a problem with all drives. > The reason I never noticed this before is that when I normally install, I allocate the whole drive to FreeBSD, since I'm never going to co-locate Linux/DOS on the same box... For some reason, this time, I failed to do that :( Marc G. Fournier scrappy@ki.net Systems Administrator @ ki.net scrappy@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 6 21:56:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA25697 for current-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shadows.aeon.net ([194.100.41.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA25688 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by shadows.aeon.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id HAA14058 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 07:55:07 +0300 (EET DST) From: Mr Operating System Message-Id: <199607070455.HAA14058@shadows.aeon.net> Subject: weird... To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 07:55:07 +0300 (EET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Latin-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i seem to draw probs to myself lately... (elm is only yet another one, sending this on Latin-1 even though there's no such words in the elmrc or anywhere else, i dunno where it picks it, cant recompile coz nothing compiles) thanx to mr J Wunsch i managed to trace parts of the problem i was having in my system... problem was/is that make fails whatever i do... at some point last week the sup.de.freebsd.org have atleast given this file to me: ansi.h.orig: * $Id: ansi.h,v 1.7.4.4 1996/06/05 19:49:02 nate Exp $ i was told it's a latest one from _2.1.x_ and the _only_ way (i doubt anyone hacking in would've changed that one) i can think to get such a file into my system have been sup... i've only ran sup to update my /usr/src, and my sup-file is defenitely -current, i've checked that _many_ times... and no. i havent manually touched any /usr/src files lately... now i only wonder how many of those 2.1.x files i have... am i really _the only one_ having this problem? i didnt think i was _that_ good... (or bad) *sigh* also, ftp.de.freebsd.org gives me an error if i have a line for src-contrib in my sup-file... SUP Fileserver 9.13 (4.3 BSD) 28399 on blues.physik.rwth-aachen.de at 07:51:27 SUP Fileserver supports compression. SUP: Invalid release current for collection src-contrib SUP: Upgrade of src-contrib-current aborted at Jul 7 07:51:27 1996 something i do wrong? mickey