From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Feb 18 08:49:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA21837 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 08:49:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from wgrobez1.remote.louisville.edu (wgrobez1.remote.louisville.edu [136.165.243.183]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA21821 Sun, 18 Feb 1996 08:49:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wangel@localhost) by wgrobez1.remote.louisville.edu (8.7.3/8.6.12) id LAA09550; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 11:43:31 GMT Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 11:43:30 +0000 () From: Gary Roberts To: Daniel Baker cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: NexGen CPU? In-Reply-To: <199602180551.XAA00682@crash.ops.neosoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 17 Feb 1996, Daniel Baker wrote: > Has anyone heard of a NexGen Pentium chip and motherboard? > > I saw an ad for one today that claims it's as good, if not > better than an Intel. Also has good review from the standard PC Hardware > magazines. > > Has anyone had any experince running FreeBSD on these? > > Thanks > Daniel > > -- > dbaker@neosoft.com - Daniel Baker - FTP & UseNet News Admin - Neosoft, Inc. > Any opinions expressed are mine. > The NExtGEN cpu are junk. They are faster in some cases then the intel, but they do not have an floating point chips or whatnot, you have to use 'emulators' that emulate floating point processes. From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Feb 18 11:28:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA29289 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 11:28:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA29284 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 11:28:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA04255 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org); Sun, 18 Feb 1996 20:25:17 +0100 Message-Id: <199602181925.AA04255@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 20:25:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: Ollivier Robert "Re: P55TP4XE issues, SP3G q's" (Feb 17, 19:13) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: Ollivier Robert Subject: Re: P55TP4XE issues, SP3G q's Cc: skynyrd@tahoma.cwu.edu, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Feb 17, 19:13, Ollivier Robert wrote: } Subject: Re: P55TP4XE issues, SP3G q's } It seems that Eric Chet said: } > slower than a pentium 133 on a Asus P55TP4 on a make world. The } > Pentium takes 3:40 the AMD-133 takes about 4:00, times are in } > HH:MM and are approximate. I have only timed the SP3G. } } I'm surprised. } } My DX4/100, 32 MB, BT-747S + AHA-1740A EISA system takes only 4:50 to } complete a "make world" (with /usr/src and /usr/obj mounted async). Well, what did you expect ? :) c't 3/96 mkwldstone :) source --------------------------------------------------- iDX2/66 1.00 (6:40 => 1.00) (se) aDX4/100 1.26 (5:15) iDX4/100 1.36 (4:50 => 1.38) (roberto) a5x86/133-WT 1.56 (4:20 => 1.54) (se) a5x86/133-WB 1.63 (4:00 => 1.67) (ec0) P75-PB-WB 1.69 (3:55) (ec0=Eric Chet, roberto=Ollivier Robert, se=Stefan Esser) The "c't 3/96" column lists some (of 18) results for i486 compatible CPUs. The Cyrix 5x86 results depend too much on the motherboard and chip revision to be useful as a system performance indicator (the 100MHz version seems to lie in the middle between iDX4/100 and AMD 5x86/133 at about 1.45 to 1.49). The c't numbers were obtained using the Babco test suite based on Windows programs. But since it nearly perfectly matches make world times, I think those values can be trusted anyway ... :) I've just found an offer for a Dirty Tag RAM at 13.50DM (about $8.00 taking local VAT into account) and think this is a good price for speeding up the make world by another 20 minutes ... BTW: The P75 with ppipelined burst cache is about as fast as a P90 with Neptun, SiS or Triton with asynch. cache SRAMS. Seems the AMD 5x86 really is a good buy at $80 (135,00DM). Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Feb 18 15:01:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA10446 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 15:01:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA10421 Sun, 18 Feb 1996 15:01:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id AAA28875; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 00:01:05 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id AAA09907; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 00:01:05 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id XAA08915; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 23:57:42 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199602182257.XAA08915@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: EEPROM-reader for 9346 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 23:57:41 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, in order to fiddle with a few ethernet cards here, i had a need to build a small program that allows me to read/write industry-standard 9346 EEPROMs. These are small 8-pin DIL or SO parts that can be found on modems, ethernet cards etc. in order to store soft configurations. The device is interfaced to a Centronics printer port with the help of a couple of additional parts (basically, a line driver and a voltage doubler to create the required Vcc). The program performs direct IO on the printer port, bypassing the kernel privilege mechanism by using /dev/io. If there is interest in the program, i'm willing to make it a "port". (NB: i'm not on freebsd-hardware.) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Feb 18 22:41:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA05720 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 22:41:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA05711 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 22:41:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id HAA17906 ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 07:41:35 +0100 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id HAA22299 ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 07:41:29 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.7.3/keltia-uucp-2.7) id AAA16133; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 00:23:34 +0100 (MET) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199602182323.AAA16133@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Re: P55TP4XE issues, SP3G q's To: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 00:23:34 +0100 (MET) Cc: skynyrd@tahoma.cwu.edu, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199602181925.AA04255@Sysiphos> from Stefan Esser at "Feb 18, 96 08:25:16 pm" X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1661 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL5 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk It seems that Stefan Esser said: > Well, what did you expect ? :) Better times for the Pentium :-) > c't 3/96 mkwldstone :) source > --------------------------------------------------- > iDX2/66 1.00 (6:40 => 1.00) (se) > aDX4/100 1.26 (5:15) > iDX4/100 1.36 (4:50 => 1.38) (roberto) > a5x86/133-WT 1.56 (4:20 => 1.54) (se) > a5x86/133-WB 1.63 (4:00 => 1.67) (ec0) > P75-PB-WB 1.69 (3:55) Interesting. I thought the iDX4/100 would be nearer the P75 as for many things the DX4/100 seems to be somewhat faster than the P75. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #6: Fri Feb 9 21:27:02 MET 1996 From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Feb 18 22:58:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA06394 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 22:58:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from montana.com (paw.montana.com [199.2.139.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA06389 Sun, 18 Feb 1996 22:58:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from paw.montana.com ([199.2.139.49]) by montana.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15771; Sun, 18 Feb 1996 23:59:29 -0700 Received: by paw.montana.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BAFE5D.BAEE4120@paw.montana.com>; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 00:03:42 -0700 Message-Id: <01BAFE5D.BAEE4120@paw.montana.com> From: Gary Aitken To: "'Sujal Patel'" Cc: "doc@freebsd.org" , "hardware@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: Supra Express 288i PnP modem Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 00:01:42 -0700 Encoding: 11 TEXT Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have working ISA PnP support for FreeBSD-- But I'm still working on various parts of the code (I guess I really should get someone to commit the code as it is, since it mostly works). ... If all goes well, it should say that it configured your device on boot up. You may need to fiddle with this a bit, since I those patches are against -current (and were created manually, not from my running kernel w/pnp). Lemme know how it goes or if you have any problems. Great, thanks! I won't have a chance to get to this for a bit, but will shortly. From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Feb 19 14:42:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA00704 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 14:42:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00692 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 14:42:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from Shug-Internet.Saar.DE (root@shug-internet.saar.de [192.109.53.4]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA18318 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 14:42:19 -0800 Received: from TMPuhf.Saar.DE (tmpuhf.saar.de [192.109.53.3]) by Shug-Internet.Saar.DE (8.6.8.1/8.5) with SMTP id XAA15162; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 23:40:29 +0100 Received: from wg.saar.de by TMPuhf.Saar.DE with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0toeFs-00021FC; Mon, 19 Feb 96 23:40 WET Received: by bellona.wg.saar.de id m0toUtA-00024FC; Mon, 19 Feb 96 13:40 MET Received: from brian.lunetix.de by pythia with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #5) id m0toUdH-000CDZC; Mon, 19 Feb 96 13:23 MET Received: (from uc@localhost) by brian.lunetix.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA01164; Mon, 19 Feb 1996 13:24:40 +0100 From: Ulrich Callmeier Message-Id: <199602191224.NAA01164@brian.lunetix.de> Subject: Re: Fast and reliable 2GB disk To: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 13:24:40 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199602171850.AA19016@Sysiphos> from "Stefan Esser" at Feb 17, 96 07:50:38 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, thanks for your detailed information. > Yes, I've been using a Quantum Atlas 2GB for nearly one year now, > and it appears to be a well designed drive. Sounds good. > They don't know about a DFRS, only about the DFHS, and I'm > not sure whether the first is the successor of the second, > or the names got confused in some way ... I did some "research" and finally found the answer in c't 2/96, p. 220: the DFRS is a _R_eengineered version of the DFHS. According to IBM the DFRS is not suitable for use in a server (bad for me). It does some internal calibration each 72 hours, that takes about 23 seconds. During this time the disk is not accessible. So the R seems to be more of a _R_educed version... > Please let us know what you think of this drive if you > actually buy one ... I think I'll get the Quantum. -- Ulrich From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Feb 21 16:31:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA13879 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:31:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from DOGBERT.BBN.COM (DOGBERT.BBN.COM [128.89.0.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA13872 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:31:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199602220031.QAA13872@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 96 19:27:36 EST From: Trevor Mendez To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org cc: tmendez@BBN.COM Subject: Net Install with 3c589 (PCMCIA) Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * Attempting to load FreeBSD 2.1 over the Net onto a IBM ThinkPad using a 3Com EtherLink III ethernet card (3c589). * Successfully made a boot disk with image from the ftp site. * Everything worked except that after about 20 attempts, the device is never attached -- it is recognized as being in slot 1, but the probe to the I/O address fails, resulting in "zp0 not found at 0x300". * I have used tried using 3com software to set the device's I/O port and INT# to the ones used by the kernel. And I have set the numbers on the card and in the kernel (booting with "-c") to several other pairs of numbers without success. Is there something else that I should try? Thanks.` /tdm From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Feb 21 18:30:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA19503 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 18:30:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA19481 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 18:30:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA16306; Wed, 21 Feb 1996 19:32:35 -0700 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 19:32:35 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199602220232.TAA16306@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Trevor Mendez Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Net Install with 3c589 (PCMCIA) In-Reply-To: <199602220031.QAA13872@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <199602220031.QAA13872@freefall.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Trevor Mendez writes: > > * Attempting to load FreeBSD 2.1 over the Net onto a IBM ThinkPad using > a 3Com EtherLink III ethernet card (3c589). > > * Successfully made a boot disk with image from the ftp site. > > * Everything worked except that after about 20 attempts, the device is never > attached -- it is recognized as being in slot 1, but the probe to the I/O > address fails, resulting in "zp0 not found at 0x300". > > * I have used tried using 3com software to set the device's I/O port and INT# > to the ones used by the kernel. And I have set the numbers on the card and > in the kernel (booting with "-c") to several other pairs of numbers without > success. Did you run the software w/out card services running? > > Is there something else that I should try? Thanks.` What is the IOMEM set to? You can't set the IOMEM value, but you can look at what it's set to using the configuration program. Nate From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Feb 22 07:22:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA24597 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 07:22:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from sun4nl.NL.net (sun4nl.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA24583 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 07:22:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from spase by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA08675 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Thu, 22 Feb 1996 16:22:17 +0100 Received: (from dutchman@localhost) by mercurius.spase.nl (8.6.11/8.6.11) id QAA19798 for freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 16:20:01 +0100 From: Kees Jan Koster Message-Id: <199602221520.QAA19798@mercurius.spase.nl> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD hardware Mailing list) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 16:20:00 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk unsubscribe From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Feb 22 07:42:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA26191 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 07:42:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from DOGBERT.BBN.COM (DOGBERT.BBN.COM [128.89.0.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA26186 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 07:41:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199602221541.HAA26186@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 10:40:36 EST From: Trevor Mendez To: Nate Williams cc: Trevor Mendez , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Net Install with 3c589 (PCMCIA) Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Did you run the software w/out card services running? I ran 3com's install software first with card services running, and then later without card services running. >What is the IOMEM set to? You can't set the IOMEM value, but you can >look at what it's set to using the configuration program. With CS, it was set to 0x110, and it could not be set as you suggested. Without CS, it was set to 0x200, but I was able to change it to 0x300, 0x3a0, ... (whatever I wanted within the range 0x200 - 0x3a0). I assume it "just worked" for you (and/or others who've tried it). /tdm From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Feb 22 07:47:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA26493 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 07:47:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA26487 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 07:46:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA17453; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 08:49:24 -0700 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 08:49:24 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199602221549.IAA17453@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Trevor Mendez Cc: Nate Williams , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Net Install with 3c589 (PCMCIA) In-Reply-To: <199602221544.IAA17423@rocky.sri.MT.net> References: <199602221544.IAA17423@rocky.sri.MT.net> Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > >Did you run the software w/out card services running? > > I ran 3com's install software first with card services running, and then > later without card services running. > > >What is the IOMEM set to? You can't set the IOMEM value, but you can > >look at what it's set to using the configuration program. > > With CS, it was set to 0x110, and it could not be set as you suggested. > Without CS, it was set to 0x200, but I was able to change it to 0x300, 0x3a0, > ... (whatever I wanted within the range 0x200 - 0x3a0). Umm, that's the port setting. There are 3 settings you need to know. The port, the IRQ, and the IOMEM setting. However, I can't remember if 3COM's utility calls it that. However, you can set the first 2 using the utility, but you can't set the third. You can only read the third setting by using the 'look at the card' settings. It should look something like 0xDE00 or something like that. This means you would set the iomem setting in FreeBSD to 0xde000 (note the extra zero), since the 3COM device writes the value in segment format. :) > I assume it "just worked" for you (and/or others who've tried it). Once it's configured correctly it does. When we get PC-CARD support in the system, tested, and debugged it'll be much easier, but until that time this is a hack to get it working. (I've been working on PC-CARD stuff the last couple weeks, and started getting code in the tree yesterday). Nate From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Feb 22 08:52:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA00759 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 08:52:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from pepsi2.bekkoame.or.jp ([202.231.192.46]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA00754 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 08:52:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from pai (mp10.NetLaputa.or.jp [202.234.20.202]) by pepsi2.bekkoame.or.jp (8.6.12+2.5W/3.4W2) with SMTP id BAA12915 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 01:52:26 +0900 Message-ID: <312C9B0E.20BC@pisces.bekkoame.or.jp> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 01:34:22 +0900 From: Takafumi Masuno X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0GoldB1 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: XF86 3.1.2 over CL-GD6245 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I'm using FreeBSD 2.1R on IBM ThikPad 530cs(Japanese domestic version). This machine's video chipset is CirrusLogic CL-GD6245. I'm trying to run XFree86 3.1.2 on the machine,but it doesn't run correctly. (Very Large screen appeared, I think that XF86SVGA server does not support this chipset and XF86SVGA server assume my video chipset as GENERIC (320x200).) Please tell me what I should do. Takafumi From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Feb 22 09:33:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA03342 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 09:33:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from DOGBERT.BBN.COM (DOGBERT.BBN.COM [128.89.0.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA03333 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 09:32:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199602221732.JAA03333@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 12:31:15 EST From: Trevor Mendez To: Nate Williams cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, tmendez@BBN.COM Subject: Re: Net Install with 3c589 (PCMCIA) Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Umm, that's the port setting. There are 3 settings you need to know. I was thinking about too many things at the same time when I responded earlier ... didn't read your note carefully. But I know what you meant. >The port, the IRQ, and the IOMEM setting. However, I can't remember if >3COM's utility calls it that.... I let 3Com's utility auto conf. the board and save the configuration: I/O Port: 0x210 I/O MEM: 0xd700 (that is, 0xd7000) INT: IRQ 3 Configured the kernel to probe for zp0 at port 0x210, base 0xd7000 (and to use IRQ 3 -- I reassigned something else that was going to use IRQ 3). Result: ... lnc1: disabled, not probed. ze0: disabled, not probed. zp: slot 0: no card in slot zp: found card in slot 1 zp0 not found at 0x210 Perhaps the config. program's "SAVE" function isn't working. Because, at least once or twice, I didn't see what I expected after doing: CONFIG, SAVE, REBOOT, RE-EXAMINE. /tdm From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Feb 22 16:41:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA04056 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 16:41:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA04046 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 16:41:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA20668; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 11:09:30 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199602230039.LAA20668@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Net Install with 3c589 (PCMCIA) To: tmendez@BBN.COM (Trevor Mendez) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 11:09:30 +1030 (CST) Cc: nate@sri.MT.net, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, tmendez@BBN.COM In-Reply-To: <199602221732.JAA03333@freefall.freebsd.org> from "Trevor Mendez" at Feb 22, 96 12:31:15 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Trevor Mendez stands accused of saying: > > I let 3Com's utility auto conf. the board and save the configuration: > I/O Port: 0x210 > I/O MEM: 0xd700 (that is, 0xd7000) > INT: IRQ 3 > > Configured the kernel to probe for zp0 at port 0x210, base 0xd7000 (and to use > IRQ 3 -- I reassigned something else that was going to use IRQ 3). The serial port on IRQ3 isn't just going to magically disappear because you've deconfigured it in the kernel. (Presuming you have two serial ports). Force it to an IRQ that is less likely to be used - try 5 as a good start. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Feb 22 17:52:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA08438 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:52:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from frig.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (frig.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp [131.113.32.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA08373 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from hosokawa@localhost) by frig.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.4Wbeta3) id KAA18913; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 10:51:37 +0900 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 10:51:37 +0900 Message-Id: <199602230151.KAA18913@frig.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp> To: franky@pisces.bekkoame.or.jp Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp Subject: Re: XF86 3.1.2 over CL-GD6245 In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 23 Feb 1996 01:34:22 +0900. <312C9B0E.20BC@pisces.bekkoame.or.jp> From: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (HOSOKAWA Tatsumi) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.18PL3] 1994-08/01(Mon) Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In article <312C9B0E.20BC@pisces.bekkoame.or.jp> franky@pisces.bekkoame.or.jp writes: >> I'm using FreeBSD 2.1R on IBM ThikPad 530cs(Japanese domestic version). >> This machine's video chipset is CirrusLogic CL-GD6245. >> I'm trying to run XFree86 3.1.2 on the machine,but it doesn't run correctly. >> (Very Large screen appeared, I think that XF86SVGA server does not support this chipset and >> XF86SVGA server assume my video chipset as GENERIC (320x200).) >> Please tell me what I should do. *** X11R6/lib/Server/drivers/vga256/cirrus/cir_driver.c.orig Sat Jul 22 00:44:45 1995 --- X11R6/lib/Server/drivers/vga256/cirrus/cir_driver.c Thu Aug 10 00:48:42 1995 *************** *** 136,141 **** --- 136,142 ---- #define CLGD6225_ID 0x32 #define CLGD6235_ID 0x06 /* It's not 0x12. */ /* XXXX need to add 6245. */ + #define CLGD6245_ID 0x05 /* ThinkPad 530Cs */ #define CLGD5434_OLD_ID 0x29 #define CLGD5434_ID 0x2A /* CL changed the ID at the last minute. */ #define CLGD5430_ID 0x28 *************** *** 731,736 **** --- 732,738 ---- break; case CLGD6235_ID: case CLGD6235_ID + 1: + case CLGD6245_ID: cirrusChip = CLGD6235; break; -- HOSOKAWA, Tatsumi E-mail: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp WWW homepage: http://www.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp/person/hosokawa.html Department of Computer Science, Keio University, Yokohama, Japan From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Feb 22 18:23:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA11535 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 18:23:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from news5.crl.com (news5.crl.com [165.113.1.25]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA11530 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 1996 18:23:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from rose.UUCP by news5.crl.com with UUCP id AA01231 (5.65c/IDA-1.502 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org); Thu, 22 Feb 1996 18:05:54 -0800 Received: by thirdeye.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09556; Thu, 22 Feb 96 17:17:56 PST Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 17:17:56 PST From: peter@thirdeye.com (Peter Rowell) Message-Id: <9602230117.AA09556@thirdeye.com> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: ISDN Questions Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, A couple of questions about ISDN and FreeBsd. 1. What is the current status of the "II ISDN Interface" described in /usr/src/gnu/usr.sbin/isdn/docs? 2. Has anyone done anything that will work with the Motorola BitSurfer Pro? 3. What are the advantages of a card over an external box? Interrupt rate? Feature control? Thanks in advance for any info. ============================================================================= Peter Rowell peter@thirdeye.com (707) 829-3793 Third Eye Software, Inc. The waitress asked Descartes if he wanted 5275 Thomas Road fries with that. He said, "I think not.." Sebastopol, CA 95472 and disappeared! From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Feb 23 04:03:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA03496 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 04:03:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA03490 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 04:03:11 -0800 (PST) From: garyj@frt.dec.com Received: from cssmuc.frt.dec.com by mail1.digital.com (5.65 EXP 4/12/95 for V3.2/1.0/WV) id AA30357; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 03:55:01 -0800 Received: from localhost by cssmuc.frt.dec.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0232PM) id AA00568; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 12:54:45 +0100 Message-Id: <9602231154.AA00568@cssmuc.frt.dec.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: peter%thirdeye.com@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com Cc: freebsd-hardware%freebsd.org@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com In-Reply-To: Message from peter@thirdeye.com (Peter Rowell) of Thu, 22 Feb 96 17:17:56 PST. Reply-To: gjennejohn@frt.dec.com Subject: Re: ISDN Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 23 Feb 96 12:54:45 +0100 X-Mts: smtp Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk peter@thirdeye.com writes: > Hi, > > A couple of questions about ISDN and FreeBsd. > > 1. What is the current status of the "II ISDN Interface" > described in /usr/src/gnu/usr.sbin/isdn/docs? > right now 0.2 is in the pipeline (0.1 is now in the tree). This has been ported to 2.1 and -current. All the activity is currenty restricted to Germany, although Jordan is trying to get some of the supported cards. Currently only cards from German manufacturers are supported (Creatix, Teles, Dr. Neuhaus). AFAIK, nobody in the US has invested any effort. > 2. Has anyone done anything that will work with the > Motorola BitSurfer Pro? > not that I know of. > 3. What are the advantages of a card over an external box? > Interrupt rate? Feature control? > with a card you get the full B-channel speed (64 K/sec, 128 K/sec with channel bundling). Unless you have a really fast serial port (> 115.2) you can't get the full speed when you use channel bundling with an external device. Note that the II stuff doesn't currently support channel bundling, though, so this point is moot. If you have a 16550A with FIFO then you'll probably get (this is a gut estimate) 1 interrupt for every 16 characters or so. Most 486 or better PCs can handle this easily. For ISDN the interrupt load will vary drastically depending on whether you have an active or a passive card. The active cards have a processor on-board and don't interrupt the host CPU so much. The passive cards (at least, the German ones) use a chip-set with a 32 byte deep FIFO, so you get 1 interrupt for every 32 bytes, best case. Since the D-channel packets tend to be small and cause an interrupt the load varies depending on where the bytes come from. I've used the ii0.2 stuff with a 486, ftp 7.5 kB/sec., and noticed no degradation in performance. An external box is probably easier to set up and use, since it looks like a modem. So you can run slip/ppp with no changes to whatever comm. software you like. The II stuff uses raw HDLC. This is great if the guy you're talking to supports it too, because the network is completely transparent (the ii0.2 stuff does demand dialing, you just need to access the address of the interface and, voila !, the connection is made). There's a sort of AT command-set emulation, but I've never tried it out and can't say whether it would work for slip/ppp. It definitely will NOT work for iijpp. Feature control is almost non-existent in the II stuff. --- Gary Jennejohn (work) gjennejohn@frt.dec.com (home) Gary.Jennejohn@munich.netsurf.de (play) gj@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Feb 23 05:36:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA08486 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 05:36:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA08481 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 05:36:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.id.net by mail1.digital.com (5.65 EXP 4/12/95 for V3.2/1.0/WV) id AA22279; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 05:34:16 -0800 Received: (from rls@localhost) by server.id.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA06064; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 08:32:40 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Shady Message-Id: <199602231332.IAA06064@server.id.net> Subject: Re: ISDN Questions To: gjennejohn@frt.dec.com Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 08:32:39 -0500 (EST) Cc: peter%thirdeye.com@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com, freebsd-hardware%freebsd.org@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com In-Reply-To: <9602231154.AA00568@cssmuc.frt.dec.com> from "garyj@frt.dec.com" at Feb 23, 96 12:54:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > A couple of questions about ISDN and FreeBsd. > > > > 2. Has anyone done anything that will work with the > > Motorola BitSurfer Pro? > > not that I know of. The BitSurfer PRO wouldn't need anything dependant on the kernel. Just drop it in & treat it like a modem, run PPP to your provider & everything should be fine. > > 3. What are the advantages of a card over an external box? > > Interrupt rate? Feature control? > > with a card you get the full B-channel speed (64 K/sec, 128 K/sec with > channel bundling). Unless you have a really fast serial port (> 115.2) > you can't get the full speed when you use channel bundling with an > external device. Note that the II stuff doesn't currently support > channel bundling, though, so this point is moot. The other advantage of a card vs. an external device is that with an internal card, you are talking to it in Syncronous mode, which simply means you send a byte, it sends 8 bits. An external device talks in Asynchronous mode, which simply means you send a byte, it sends 10-11 bits. Right off the bat, this means you will get an approximate 20% loss of throughput with an Asyncronous device Vs. a Synchronous device... Now, you through in the fact that most external Asynchronous devices have to do the Asynch->Sync conversion "on-the-fly", it's possible you may loose a little more than that. -- Rob === _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ Innovative Data Services Serving South-Eastern Michigan Internet Service Provider / Hardware Sales / Consulting Services Voice: (810)855-0404 / Fax: (810)855-3268 / Web: http://www.id.net From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Feb 23 15:09:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA19839 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:09:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from nms.cyf-kr.edu.pl (nms.cyf-kr.edu.pl [149.156.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA19833 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:09:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl (0@kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl [149.156.4.10]) by nms.cyf-kr.edu.pl (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id AAA14154 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 00:12:39 +0100 Received: from [] ([149.156.1.240]) by kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl (8.6.11/8.6.10) with SMTP id AAA02050 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 00:08:13 +0100 Message-Id: <199602232308.AAA02050@kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Janusz Stal" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 00:00:57 +0000 Subject: 3C595 Ethernet Card Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've installed FreeBSD 2.1 RELEASE on my Pentium with 3C509 ethernet card. It worked perfectly. A few days ago I replaced this card with 3C595 PCI. I can't connect to my network. Why ? Is this card supported by FreeBSD ? Thanks in advance. --------------------------- Janusz Stal phone: (48-12) 167-769 fax: (48-12) 210-353 email: eistal@cyf-kr.edu.pl From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Feb 24 03:55:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA20054 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 03:55:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA20045 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 03:55:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA04468; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 13:44:50 +0200 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 13:44:49 +0200 (EET) From: Narvi To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: 3COM 509 NICs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm not 100% sure, but I feel it belongs here: A friend of mine wants to set up a FreeBSD box as a router between 4 ethernets and planns to use 3COM 509 NICs. As I'm the only one who has used FreeBSD round here, he asked me. So, can anyone point out any troubles I will immedeately fall into? Will the 3COM cards give any performance gains over NE2000 compatibles (there is that unresolved reference to buggyness)? With thnx in advance, Sander. From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Feb 24 04:44:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA26074 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 04:44:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA26061 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 04:44:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA26987; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 23:12:41 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199602241242.XAA26987@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: 3COM 509 NICs To: narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee (Narvi) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 23:12:41 +1030 (CST) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Narvi" at Feb 24, 96 01:44:49 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Narvi stands accused of saying: > A friend of mine wants to set up a FreeBSD box as a router > between 4 ethernets and planns to use 3COM 509 NICs. As I'm the > only one who has used FreeBSD round here, he asked me. So, can > anyone point out any troubles I will immedeately fall into? Will > the 3COM cards give any performance gains over NE2000 compatibles > (there is that unresolved reference to buggyness)? I'd be inclined to suggest NE2000's. PIO to/from the card notwithstanding, the ed driver is very efficient, and NE2000 clones are very cheap. Whilst I'm sure there are plenty of '509's out there working just fine, there have been enough unhappy stories about them that I'd be discouraged. > Sander. All MHO only. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Feb 24 05:07:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA28309 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 05:07:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA28300 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 05:07:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id OAA15174 ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 14:07:32 +0100 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id OAA21025 ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 14:07:32 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.7.3/keltia-uucp-2.7) id NAA23600; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 13:05:49 +0100 (MET) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199602241205.NAA23600@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Re: 3C595 Ethernet Card To: eistal@cyf-kr.edu.pl (Janusz Stal) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 13:05:49 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199602232308.AAA02050@kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl> from Janusz Stal at "Feb 24, 96 00:00:57 am" X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1688 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL7 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk It seems that Janusz Stal said: > I've installed FreeBSD 2.1 RELEASE on my Pentium with 3C509 ethernet > card. It worked perfectly. A few days ago I replaced this card with > 3C595 PCI. I can't connect to my network. Why ? Is this card supported > by FreeBSD ? Not in 2.1.0-RELEASE. CURRENT does support it by way of the vx driver. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #1: Tue Feb 20 01:16:51 MET 1996 From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Feb 24 07:44:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA12040 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 07:44:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA12028 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 07:44:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id QAA16249 ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 16:44:12 +0100 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id QAA21576 ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 16:44:11 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.7.3/keltia-uucp-2.7) id OAA23913; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 14:16:11 +0100 (MET) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199602241316.OAA23913@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Re: 3COM 509 NICs To: narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee (Narvi) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 14:16:11 +0100 (MET) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from Narvi at "Feb 24, 96 01:44:49 pm" X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1688 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL7 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk It seems that Narvi said: > only one who has used FreeBSD round here, he asked me. So, can > anyone point out any troubles I will immedeately fall into? Will It'd be better to use the -CURRENT driver. It does support multicast and has a number of fixes. > the 3COM cards give any performance gains over NE2000 compatibles > (there is that unresolved reference to buggyness)? They will be faster than the NE2000. The reference should probably go away in the FAQ. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #1: Tue Feb 20 01:16:51 MET 1996 From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Feb 24 08:47:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA22218 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 08:47:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de (zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.63.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA22195 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 08:47:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.83.63.13] (apfel.zit.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.63.13]) by zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA14159; Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:47:17 +0100 X-Sender: michael@zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:47:30 +0100 To: Robert Shady , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: petzi@zit.th-darmstadt.de (Michael Beckmann) Subject: Re: ISDN Questions Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >The other advantage of a card vs. an external device is that with an internal >card, you are talking to it in Syncronous mode, which simply means you send >a byte, it sends 8 bits. An external device talks in Asynchronous mode, >which simply means you send a byte, it sends 10-11 bits. Right off the bat, >this means you will get an approximate 20% loss of throughput with an >Asyncronous device Vs. a Synchronous device... Now, you through in the fact >that most external Asynchronous devices have to do the Asynch->Sync conversion >"on-the-fly", it's possible you may loose a little more than that. Hmmm, but when you use 115.200 bps on the serial port, it can do 11.5 kbytes per second, even when the serial interface is asynchronous (10 Bits per byte). And ISDN can only do 8 kBytes per second, assuming you don't use channel bundling or V.42bis compression or the like. So you don't loose any throughput when you run an external ISDN adaptor over an async serial line. All you need is a serial line that is faster than ISDN, then you get the full troughput.