From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 6 12:29:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA05748 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 12:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (root@moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA05743 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 12:29:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (kimc@moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id PAA23081 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:29:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:29:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Kim Culhan To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: cuseeme Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know of any way to run cuseeme on FreeBSD? Some references I found suggested nv will do this but I think maybe it only understands cuseeme encoding. I looks like its not able to actually contact a cuseeme 'reflector'. regards kim -- kimc@w8hd.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 6 12:32:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA05908 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 12:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (root@moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA05899 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 12:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (kimc@moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id PAA23091 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:32:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:32:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Kim Culhan To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: RealAudio on FreeBSD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have RealAudio Player 2.0b4 for FreeBSD running here with Netscape 3.0 It works very well, much improved audio quality over the previous version. kim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 6 13:23:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA08564 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 13:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mickey.umiacs.umd.edu (12222@mickey.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA08557 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 13:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (smpatel@localhost) by mickey.umiacs.umd.edu (8.7.6/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA32659; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:23:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:23:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Sujal Patel To: Kim Culhan cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RealAudio on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Kim Culhan wrote: > I have RealAudio Player 2.0b4 for FreeBSD running here with Netscape 3.0 > > It works very well, much improved audio quality over the previous > version. Actually, RealAudio 3.0 is currently in Beta on windows platforms. It provides much better quality then the 2.0b4 player. Unix players should be available in the near future (including FreeBSD). Sujal From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 6 13:31:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA09135 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 13:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (root@moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09130 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 13:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (kimc@moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id QAA23232; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:31:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:31:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Kim Culhan To: Sujal Patel cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RealAudio on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Sujal Patel wrote: > Actually, RealAudio 3.0 is currently in Beta on windows platforms. It > provides much better quality then the 2.0b4 player. Unix players should > be available in the near future (including FreeBSD). Thats good news, I hope they continue to support FreeBSD. kim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 6 13:37:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA09634 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 13:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyberspace.org (NMUPPP1-11.NMU.EDU [198.110.207.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09625 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 13:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from entropy@localhost) by cyberspace.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA04764 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 20:47:40 GMT Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 20:47:40 GMT From: chaos and disorder Message-Id: <199610062047.UAA04764@cyberspace.org> To: multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe multimedia From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 6 14:05:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA10928 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 14:05:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (root@moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10907 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 14:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (kimc@moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id RAA00199; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 17:04:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 17:04:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Kim Culhan To: Sujal Patel cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RealAudio on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Sujal Patel wrote: > Actually, RealAudio 3.0 is currently in Beta on windows platforms. It > provides much better quality then the 2.0b4 player. Unix players should > be available in the near future (including FreeBSD). BTW I looked into the 'demo' program and it appears they only want to allow 'serious' potential customers to try it. Wonder if the FreeBSD version would work with a Gravis PnP. Recently I've had renewed interest in video and sound, Amancio fixed the sound driver setup on -current last weekend which is working out real fine. Do you have video and audio working with mbone-type tools? I'd like to see if this GUS setup will work for audio transmission but I don't know what the present state of the sound driver WRT VAT. This used to require startup with special arguments to get it working on FreeBSD, I think that situation would probably still exist -Amancio ? regards kim -- kimc@w8hd.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 6 14:23:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA11768 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 14:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fyeung5 (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA11755 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 14:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fyeung8.netific.com (fyeung8.netific.com [204.238.125.8]) by fyeung5 (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA09123; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 14:26:51 -0700 Received: by fyeung8.netific.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA28536; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 14:29:46 -0700 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 14:29:46 -0700 From: fyeung@fyeung8.netific.com (Francis Yeung) Message-Id: <9610062129.AA28536@fyeung8.netific.com> To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org, kimc@w8hd.org Subject: Re: cuseeme X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Kim Try delegated. Francis > From fyeung@netific.com Sun Oct 6 12:54 PDT 1996 > Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:29:47 -0400 (EDT) > From: Kim Culhan > To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org > Subject: cuseeme > Mime-Version: 1.0 > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > Does anyone know of any way to run cuseeme on FreeBSD? > > Some references I found suggested nv will do this but I think maybe it > only understands cuseeme encoding. > I looks like its not able to actually contact a cuseeme 'reflector'. > > regards > kim > > -- > kimc@w8hd.org > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 6 14:26:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA11981 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 14:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (root@moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA11975 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 14:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (kimc@moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id RAA00611; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 17:26:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 17:26:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Kim Culhan To: Francis Yeung cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cuseeme In-Reply-To: <9610062129.AA28536@fyeung8.netific.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Francis Yeung wrote: > Try delegated. What is delegated ? :) kim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 6 14:50:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA13592 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 14:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13570 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 14:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA00432; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 14:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610062150.OAA00432@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Kim Culhan cc: Sujal Patel , multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RealAudio on FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 06 Oct 1996 17:04:55 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 14:50:10 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Kim Culhan : > > > On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Sujal Patel wrote: > > > Actually, RealAudio 3.0 is currently in Beta on windows platforms. It > > provides much better quality then the 2.0b4 player. Unix players should > > be available in the near future (including FreeBSD). > > BTW I looked into the 'demo' program and it appears they only want to > allow 'serious' potential customers to try it. > > Wonder if the FreeBSD version would work with a Gravis PnP. I don't know about that particular version of the RealAudio player however the previous one seems to work okay with my GUS PnP over here. > Recently I've had renewed interest in video and sound, Amancio fixed the > sound driver setup on -current last weekend which is working out real > fine. > > Do you have video and audio working with mbone-type tools? > > I'd like to see if this GUS setup will work for audio transmission > but I don't know what the present state of the sound driver WRT > VAT. Also Kim if you use the server which I send you , you shall be able to send audio with your current sound driver. Just get an mbone tunnel and start broadcasting audio, video and text 8) As for vat: Wait a little longer , I had a problem over here with my version of vat which was triggered by the sound driver. So far vat seems to work okay. For instance, I was listening to CBC news last night. The only gotcha is that sometimes vat gets behind and the sound gets distorted. It is a little difficult to fix because the sound buffering is setup for 20ms 8) The other serious outstanding issue is that playing midi files can crash a system and I am trying to analyze a core dump over here. Once, I get over this last crash I will release a new gus pnp driver. Enjoy, Amancio Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 6 15:13:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA15102 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (root@moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA15095 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (kimc@moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id SAA03227; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 18:13:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 18:13:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Kim Culhan To: Amancio Hasty cc: Sujal Patel , multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RealAudio on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199610062150.OAA00432@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Amancio Hasty wrote: > Also Kim if you use the server which I send you , you shall be able > to send audio with your current sound driver. Just get an mbone > tunnel and start broadcasting audio, video and text 8) Ok very good, I'll try that soon. > As for vat: > > Wait a little longer , I had a problem over here with my version of > vat which was triggered by the sound driver. So far vat seems to work > okay. For instance, I was listening to CBC news last night. The only > gotcha is that sometimes vat gets behind and the sound gets distorted. > It is a little difficult to fix because the sound buffering is setup > for 20ms 8) It sounds like you're getting pretty close, how much buffering do you need? Did you get any good info from the manufacturer of the chip in the GUS which does the gain adjust? This was not a big thing with the old GUS except that with the local mic audio routed internally through to the line outs and the mic gain running wide-open all the time it made for lots of feedback. > The other serious outstanding issue is that playing midi files can > crash a system and I am trying to analyze a core dump over here. > Once, I get over this last crash I will release a new gus pnp driver. Great, I know there are many FreeBSD users who will appreciate that. kim -- kimc@w8hd.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 6 15:25:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA15902 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA15894 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00775; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610062225.PAA00775@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Kim Culhan cc: Sujal Patel , multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: GUS stuff (Re: RealAudio on FreeBSD ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 06 Oct 1996 18:13:01 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 15:25:02 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Kim Culhan : > > > On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > Also Kim if you use the server which I send you , you shall be able > > to send audio with your current sound driver. Just get an mbone > > tunnel and start broadcasting audio, video and text 8) > > Ok very good, I'll try that soon. > > > As for vat: > > > > Wait a little longer , I had a problem over here with my version of > > vat which was triggered by the sound driver. So far vat seems to work > > okay. For instance, I was listening to CBC news last night. The only > > gotcha is that sometimes vat gets behind and the sound gets distorted. > > It is a little difficult to fix because the sound buffering is setup > > for 20ms 8) > > It sounds like you're getting pretty close, how much buffering do you > need? I knew someone was going to ask that :( It has to deal with the way vat in full duplex relies on the card for its timing information so currently, I have the sound card setup for 20ms buffers . I will have to play a little bit more with vat to find the optimal buffering parameters for the sound driver it is a little tricky because I want to maintain the 20ms timing information from the card. > Did you get any good info from the manufacturer of the chip in the GUS > which does the gain adjust? > > This was not a big thing with the old GUS except that with the local > mic audio routed internally through to the line outs and the mic gain > running wide-open all the time it made for lots of feedback. Right now , I just use the gain to adjust the volume and that seems to be okay. AMD has not been of much help and I will try again this week. > > The other serious outstanding issue is that playing midi files can > > crash a system and I am trying to analyze a core dump over here. > > Once, I get over this last crash I will release a new gus pnp driver. > > Great, I know there are many FreeBSD users who will appreciate that. > > kim Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 6 16:16:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA18966 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org (mbrown@m-net.arbornet.org [206.84.193.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA18955 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mbrown@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.Beta.3/8.7.3) id TAA17363 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 19:20:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 19:20:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew D. Brown" Message-Id: <199610062320.TAA17363@m-net.arbornet.org> To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: question Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm having trouble implementing support for my soundscape sound card under FreeBSD. I was wondering if anyone over there has one of these sound cards and has successfuly used the low level driver for it. I tried to get mine to work, but this is the message I consistently get when I compile the kernel with the sscape0 device line in it. loading kernel sscape.o: Undefined symbol `_clear_dma_ff' referenced from text segment sscape.o: Undefined symbol `_get_dma_residue' referenced from text segment sscape.o: Undefined symbol `_ad1848_detect' referenced from text segment sscape.o: Undefined symbol `_ad1848_init' referenced from text segment ioconf.o: Undefined symbol `_sscapedriver' referenced from data segment *** Error code 1 Stop. can anyone help me? Or guide me on a path that might help? thanks for your time, matt From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 6 18:30:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA24419 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 18:30:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA24414 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 18:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA00424 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 18:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610070130.SAA00424@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: GUS stuff: mission impossible 8) Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 18:30:11 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Okay, I managed to find out what was wrong with playing midi files on the GUS PnP. /sys/i386/isa/sound/soundcard.h struct patch_info { short key; /* Use GUS_PATCH here */ #define GUS_PATCH _PATCHKEY(0x04) #define OBSOLETE_GUS_PATCH _PATCHKEY(0x02) short device_no; /* Synthesizer number */ short instr_no; /* Midi pgm# */ unsigned long mode; Make sure that the definition of key is *not* "unsigned short key;" rather "short key;" So recompile the kernel, install the kernel, reboot and playing on 8) If playmidi does not work for you , try this: cp /sys/i386/isa/sound/soundcard.h /usr/include/machine/. cp /sys/i386/isa/sound/ultrasound.h /usr/include/machine/. recompile playmidi and try again. If playmidi crashes or fails to play wait till tomorrow when I get a change to release the next version of the sound driver. Is just that I want to do a bit more testing before I release it. Oh the bit about mission impossible: ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/missio_1.mid Now if Bettina can see me playing mission impossible and doing the dishes 8) Enjoy, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 6 19:05:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA25940 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 19:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA25930 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 19:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA00697 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 19:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610070205.TAA00697@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: ne2000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 19:05:20 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know if the ne2000 support ip multicast ? Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 6 20:13:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA29875 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 20:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp (berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp [157.82.76.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA29868 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 20:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (shichi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA12745; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:02:26 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199610070302.MAA12745@berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp> X-Authentication-Warning: berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp: Host shichi@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ne2000 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 06 Oct 1996 19:05:20 -0700" References: <199610070205.TAA00697@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.06 on Emacs 19.28.3, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 12:02:25 +0900 From: Naohiro Shichijo Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sure. ne2000 driver on FreeBSD supports IP multicast. Naohiro Shichijo Univ. of Tokyo From: Amancio Hasty Subject: ne2000 Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 19:05:20 -0700 Message-ID: <199610070205.TAA00697@rah.star-gate.com> > > Does anyone know if the ne2000 support ip multicast ? > > Tnks, > Amancio > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 7 00:08:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA19639 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 00:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA19619 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 00:07:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA28431 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 08:08:12 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA12368 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 08:14:13 +0100 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 08:14:13 +0100 From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <199610070714.IAA12368@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: playmidi should intercept ^C Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Playing some Jazz midi files (the music style actually doesn't play a role :) I found that ^C-ing during a midi playback can (with around 50% hit probability) freezes my system while in X. Is anyone else seeing this. I did not try without X to eventually see a panic or so. Will do later. Next step would be thinking of how to get playmidi to intercept the signal and exit gently. --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 7 00:35:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA20900 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 00:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA20893 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 00:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA00386; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 00:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610070733.AAA00386@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Christoph Kukulies cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: playmidi should intercept ^C In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 07 Oct 1996 08:14:13 BST." <199610070714.IAA12368@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 00:33:43 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tnks for the feedback oops for the report 8) Well okay , I played mission impossible over which used to crash my system fairly consistent five or six times and I hit control-c no problem. So lets hope that with my current sound driver that all this sort of problems will go away. I intent to release the driver tomorrow nite thats . Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Christoph Kukulies : > > Playing some Jazz midi files (the music style actually doesn't play > a role :) I found that ^C-ing during a midi playback can (with > around 50% hit probability) freezes my system while in X. > Is anyone else seeing this. I did not try without X to eventually > see a panic or so. Will do later. > > Next step would be thinking of how to get playmidi to intercept > the signal and exit gently. > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 7 05:47:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA24857 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 05:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA24684 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 05:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id NAA27573 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:12:13 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199610071212.NAA27573@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: x11 grabber in vic ? To: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:12:12 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, does anyone know if there is an x11 grabber for vic, similarly to what is present in nv ? I was thinking in adding one (mostly including "nv" code) but would avoid duplicating work if someone else has already done it. Thanks Luigi ==================================================================== Luigi Rizzo Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ ==================================================================== From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 7 06:29:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA26588 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 06:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.139.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA26583 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 06:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) id IAA03084; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 08:29:19 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 08:29:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199610071329.IAA03084@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: x11 grabber in vic ? Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: Luigi Rizzo > Subject: x11 grabber in vic ? > To: multimedia@freebsd.org > > Hi, > > does anyone know if there is an x11 grabber for vic, similarly to what > is present in nv ? I was thinking in adding one (mostly including "nv" > code) but would avoid duplicating work if someone else has already done > it. > I beleive the author purposely left this out of vic. It would sometimes get annoying to see people transmitting their screens over the mbone at 128kbps (or at a higher rate) and leave for the day :-(. -Jim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 7 08:22:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA05059 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 08:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (mvs.oac.ucla.edu [164.67.200.200]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA05049 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 08:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610071522.IAA05049@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: from UCLAMVS.BITNET by MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (IBM MVS SMTP V2R2.1) with BSMTP id 4186; Mon, 07 Oct 96 08:22:40 PST Date: Mon, 07 Oct 96 08:22 PDT To: multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG From: Denis DeLaRoca (310) 825-4580 Subject: Re: Re: RealAudio on FreeBSD Sender: owner-multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 06 Oct 1996 14:50:10 -0700, Amancio Hasty said: > Wait a little longer , I had a problem over here with my version of > vat which was triggered by the sound driver. So far vat seems to work > okay. For instance, I was listening to CBC news last night. The only > gotcha is that sometimes vat gets behind and the sound gets distorted. > It is a little difficult to fix because the sound buffering is setup > for 20ms 8) The way I understand it, the 20ms is a compromise figure to minimize system buffering to reduce latency vrs the need to have enough buffer to maintain playout during processing and scheduling delays -- both sender and receiver must agree on it as Vat uses audio read comple- tions as a clock for issuing audio writes. Since audio packets from the net may arrive late, and even out of order, Vat also keeps a playout buffer whose playout-point is adjusted typically on a per talk-spur basis -- this way net delays and even sender/receiver clock differences can be smoothed. What does it mean when you say "vat gets behind and sound gets distor- ted"? If Vat gets behind because of a processing/scheduling delay that should show as a silence gap on the audio stream. If the receiver play- out point increases linearly until it hits max, packets are dropped resulting in sound clipping. I don't know if Vat currently tries to handle this situation by estimating both the playout point and trend in the estimate to implement selective packet discards in order to achieve steady state -- though the resulting sound might not be perfect. I think the observed sound distortion here, gus sound driver, is due to problems with the sound driver and little to do with the choice of 20ms audio buffers. I don't see this behaviour in say a Sun workstation where the same algorithms yield reasonably clear audio under similar network conditions with also full-duplex audio hardware. Amancio, I am looking forward to the new sound driver. Right now, besides the distorsion introduced by the sound hardware repeating previous sound samples I have seen the following problems: a) sliders don't seem to work b) the mike doesn't seem to work, the uv meter jumps off-scale when opening the mike. c) when activating two Vats, when teh 2nd copy tries to grab the audio device I end up with a sleuth of error messages failed to set non-block mode for /dev/audio 9 d) when receiving audio with vat I keep seeing error mesages isa_dmastart: dma channel # busy -- Denis From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 7 10:31:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA12621 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 10:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from noc.msc.edu (noc.msc.edu [137.66.12.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12611 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 10:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uc.msc.edu by noc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0.1(920324)) id AA19542; Mon, 7 Oct 96 12:30:39 -0500 Received: from fergus-26.dialup.prtel.com by uc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0z(901212)) id AA07888; Mon, 7 Oct 96 12:30:34 -0500 Received: (from alk@localhost) by compound.Think.COM (8.7.6/8.7.3) id MAA05975; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:31:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:31:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Tony Kimball Message-Id: <199610071731.MAA05975@compound.Think.COM> To: james@miller.cs.uwm.edu Cc: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: x11 grabber in vic ? References: <199610071329.IAA03084@miller.cs.uwm.edu> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk : I beleive the author purposely left this out of vic. It would sometimes : get annoying to see people transmitting their screens over the mbone : at 128kbps (or at a higher rate) and leave for the day :-(. But... what good reason could there be for broadcast of a static image to consume incremental dynamic bandwidth? From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 7 11:45:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA17240 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sco.sco.COM (sco.sco.COM [132.147.128.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA17230 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:45:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grandad.pdev.sco.com by sco.sco.COM id aa00565; 7 Oct 96 11:39 PDT Received: from basil.pdev.sco.com by grandpa.pdev.sco.com id aa28210; 7 Oct 96 11:39 PDT From: Shawn McMurdo To: james@miller.cs.uwm.edu, luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: x11 grabber in vic ? X-Mailer: ScoMail 3.0.Bd MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9610071138.aa18141@basil.sco.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This seems like a misguided decision. Why impose technological restrictions overbroadly in order to impose good manners policy on a few naive users and miscreants. It's like banning all use of airplanes in order to stop cocaine from being delivered from Colombia to Miami. Wrong solution. Overbroad. Ineffective. Shawn | Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 08:29:19 -0500 (CDT) | From: Jim Lowe | | > From: Luigi Rizzo | > | > Hi, | > | > does anyone know if there is an x11 grabber for vic, similarly to what | > is present in nv ? I was thinking in adding one (mostly including "nv" | > code) but would avoid duplicating work if someone else has already done | > it. | > | | I beleive the author purposely left this out of vic. It would sometimes | get annoying to see people transmitting their screens over the mbone | at 128kbps (or at a higher rate) and leave for the day :-(. | | -Jim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 7 12:12:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA19488 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3.microsoft.com (mail3.microsoft.com [131.107.3.23]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA19480 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail3.microsoft.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.29) id <01BBB448.F890E130@mail3.microsoft.com>; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:13:38 -0700 Message-ID: From: Thomas Pfenning To: "'Denis DeLaRoca 825-4580'" , "'multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG'" Subject: RE: Re: RealAudio on FreeBSD Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:11:36 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.29 Encoding: 75 TEXT Sender: owner-multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The queue length for vat is supposed to be self controlled. When my memory serves me right Van explained this to me in the following way. Vat uses the mike input to clock the output device meaning for every packet played out he is reading a packet from the mike. The queue length is automagically adjusted by preemption. The first time vat is preempted while received packets a number of packets will fill up in the receive buffer. These are then played out afterwards with the queue staying at that level. Next time vat is preempted you should have the right number of packets in the buffer. Over time you reach a level good enough for the longest preemption interval. Cheers Thomas >-----Original Message----- >From: Denis DeLaRoca 825-4580 [SMTP:CSP1DWD@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU] >Sent: Monday, October 07, 1996 8:22 AM >To: multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: Re: RealAudio on FreeBSD > >On Sun, 06 Oct 1996 14:50:10 -0700, > Amancio Hasty said: > >> Wait a little longer , I had a problem over here with my version of >> vat which was triggered by the sound driver. So far vat seems to work >> okay. For instance, I was listening to CBC news last night. The only >> gotcha is that sometimes vat gets behind and the sound gets distorted. >> It is a little difficult to fix because the sound buffering is setup >> for 20ms 8) > >The way I understand it, the 20ms is a compromise figure to minimize >system buffering to reduce latency vrs the need to have enough buffer >to maintain playout during processing and scheduling delays -- both >sender and receiver must agree on it as Vat uses audio read comple- >tions as a clock for issuing audio writes. Since audio packets from >the net may arrive late, and even out of order, Vat also keeps a playout >buffer whose playout-point is adjusted typically on a per talk-spur >basis -- this way net delays and even sender/receiver clock differences >can be smoothed. > >What does it mean when you say "vat gets behind and sound gets distor- >ted"? If Vat gets behind because of a processing/scheduling delay that >should show as a silence gap on the audio stream. If the receiver play- >out point increases linearly until it hits max, packets are dropped >resulting in sound clipping. I don't know if Vat currently tries to >handle this situation by estimating both the playout point and trend >in the estimate to implement selective packet discards in order to >achieve steady state -- though the resulting sound might not be perfect. > >I think the observed sound distortion here, gus sound driver, is due to >problems with the sound driver and little to do with the choice of 20ms >audio buffers. I don't see this behaviour in say a Sun workstation >where the same algorithms yield reasonably clear audio under similar >network conditions with also full-duplex audio hardware. > >Amancio, I am looking forward to the new sound driver. Right now, >besides the distorsion introduced by the sound hardware repeating >previous sound samples I have seen the following problems: > > a) sliders don't seem to work > b) the mike doesn't seem to work, the uv meter jumps off-scale > when opening the mike. > c) when activating two Vats, when teh 2nd copy tries to grab > the audio device I end up with a sleuth of error messages > > failed to set non-block mode for /dev/audio 9 > > d) when receiving audio with vat I keep seeing error mesages > > isa_dmastart: dma channel # busy > > >-- Denis > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 7 12:26:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA20440 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:26:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA20434 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:26:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00474; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610071926.MAA00474@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Denis DeLaRoca 825-4580 (310) cc: multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG Subject: GUS and VAT (Re: RealAudio on FreeBSD ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 07 Oct 1996 08:22:00 PDT." <199610071522.IAA05049@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 12:26:52 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Denis DeLaRoca 825-4580 : > On Sun, 06 Oct 1996 14:50:10 -0700, > Amancio Hasty said: > > > Wait a little longer , I had a problem over here with my version of > > vat which was triggered by the sound driver. So far vat seems to work > > okay. For instance, I was listening to CBC news last night. The only > > gotcha is that sometimes vat gets behind and the sound gets distorted. > > It is a little difficult to fix because the sound buffering is setup > > for 20ms 8) > > The way I understand it, the 20ms is a compromise figure to minimize > system buffering to reduce latency vrs the need to have enough buffer > to maintain playout during processing and scheduling delays -- both > sender and receiver must agree on it as Vat uses audio read comple- > tions as a clock for issuing audio writes. Since audio packets from > the net may arrive late, and even out of order, Vat also keeps a playout > buffer whose playout-point is adjusted typically on a per talk-spur > basis -- this way net delays and even sender/receiver clock differences > can be smoothed. > > What does it mean when you say "vat gets behind and sound gets distor- > ted"? If Vat gets behind because of a processing/scheduling delay that I mean this: write msec 20 delta 0 block write msec 20 delta 0 block write msec 20 delta 0 block write msec 20 delta 0 block write msec 20 delta 0 block write msec 40 delta 0 block write msec 20 delta 0 block write msec 20 delta 0 block write msec 20 delta 0 block write msec 20 delta 0 block write msec 20 delta 0 block write msec 20 delta 0 block write msec 20 delta 0 block write msec 20 delta 0 block write msec 160 delta 0 block ^^^^ write msec 1 delta 0 block write msec 19 delta 0 block write msec 20 delta 0 block write msec 20 delta 0 block The "msec delta" is the time it takes vat to write a packet to the sound driver. If you noticed the highlighted 160 delta time means that either the sound driver failed to deliver an asynch notification of the read or vat failed to write a sound packet at its scheduled 20ms interval. It should not be too hard to determine if its the sound driver failing to deliver notification of a read on time or vat failing to write a sound packet at its scheduled time. > Amancio, I am looking forward to the new sound driver. Right now, > besides the distorsion introduced by the sound hardware repeating > previous sound samples I have seen the following problems: The "feature" repeating of last sample has been turned off on the gus 8) > a) sliders don't seem to work > b) the mike doesn't seem to work, the uv meter jumps off-scale > when opening the mike. Yes I am aware of the mixing and the next version of vat will fix that. > c) when activating two Vats, when teh 2nd copy tries to grab > the audio device I end up with a sleuth of error messages > > failed to set non-block mode for /dev/audio 9 This is a debugging aid . I will gladly take it out. > d) when receiving audio with vat I keep seeing error mesages > > isa_dmastart: dma channel # busy This is a bogus printf from isa.c just comment the printf. It should never have been there to begin with except as a debugging aid. Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 7 12:49:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA22029 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22024 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00635; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610071948.MAA00635@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Thomas Pfenning cc: "'Denis DeLaRoca 825-4580'" , "'multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG'" Subject: Re: RealAudio on FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 07 Oct 1996 12:11:36 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 12:48:57 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Thomas Pfenning : > The queue length for vat is supposed to be self controlled. When my > memory serves me right Van explained this to me in the following way. > Vat uses the mike input to clock the output device meaning for every > packet played out he is reading a packet from the mike. The queue length > is automagically adjusted by preemption. The first time vat is preempted > while received packets a number of packets will fill up in the receive > buffer. These are then played out afterwards with the queue staying at > that level. Next time vat is preempted you should have the right number > of packets in the buffer. Over time you reach a level good enough for > the longest preemption interval. > > Cheers > > Thomas > Hi Doc, Okay, I will check the buffering algorithm on the sound driver as well as the read timing that the sound driver is currently generating for vat. Regards, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Oct 7 18:40:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA18278 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 18:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (mvs.oac.ucla.edu [164.67.200.200]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA18271 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 18:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610080140.SAA18271@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: from UCLAMVS.BITNET by MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (IBM MVS SMTP V2R2.1) with BSMTP id 4917; Mon, 07 Oct 96 18:40:20 PST Date: Mon, 07 Oct 96 18:39 PDT To: Amancio Hasty From: Denis DeLaRoca (310) 825-4580 Subject: Re: GUS and VAT (Re: RealAudio on FreeBSD ) CC: multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG Sender: owner-multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 07 Oct 1996 12:26:52 -0700, Amancio Hasty said: > > What does it mean when you say "vat gets behind and sound gets distor- > > ted"? If Vat gets behind because of a processing/scheduling delay that > > I mean this: > write msec 20 delta 0 block > write msec 20 delta 0 block > write msec 40 delta 0 block > write msec 20 delta 0 block > write msec 20 delta 0 block > write msec 160 delta 0 block > ^^^^ > write msec 1 delta 0 block > write msec 19 delta 0 block > write msec 20 delta 0 block > write msec 20 delta 0 block > > sound driver. If you noticed the highlighted 160 delta time means > that either the sound driver failed to deliver an asynch notification > of the read or vat failed to write a sound packet at its scheduled > 20ms interval. It should not be too hard to determine if its the Humm? Do we know if those deltas of 40 and 160 are when Vat has been pre-empted? If it is pre-emption and no output queue has been built yet -- because this is the first time Vat is being pre-empted -- a silence gap will appear on the audio stream, but if the output queue has been built that is enough to keep audio output continuous. This is the self-clocking algorithm that Thomas just described. Are deltas above being computed by watching audio writes? Should be easy enough as you say to monitor asynch notifications and see if any are missing. If you haven't tinkered much with vat's code outside of the audio.cc a problem with delivery of read notifications by the sound driver sounds plausible. -- Denis From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 8 00:34:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA03067 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 00:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA03059 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 00:34:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA03637; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 00:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610080734.AAA03637@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Denis DeLaRoca 825-4580 (310) cc: multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GUS and VAT (Re: RealAudio on FreeBSD ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 07 Oct 1996 18:39:00 PDT." <199610080139.SAA02269@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 00:34:36 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The "write msec delta ... message gets printed every time vat writes to the audio device. My hacking has been restricted to audio.cc. Amancio >From The Desk Of Denis DeLaRoca 825-4580 : > On Mon, 07 Oct 1996 12:26:52 -0700, > Amancio Hasty said: > > > What does it mean when you say "vat gets behind and sound gets distor- > > > ted"? If Vat gets behind because of a processing/scheduling delay that > > > > I mean this: > > write msec 20 delta 0 block > > write msec 20 delta 0 block > > write msec 40 delta 0 block > > write msec 20 delta 0 block > > write msec 20 delta 0 block > > write msec 160 delta 0 block > > ^^^^ > > write msec 1 delta 0 block > > write msec 19 delta 0 block > > write msec 20 delta 0 block > > write msec 20 delta 0 block > > > > sound driver. If you noticed the highlighted 160 delta time means > > that either the sound driver failed to deliver an asynch notification > > of the read or vat failed to write a sound packet at its scheduled > > 20ms interval. It should not be too hard to determine if its the > > Humm? Do we know if those deltas of 40 and 160 are when Vat has been > pre-empted? If it is pre-emption and no output queue has been built > yet -- because this is the first time Vat is being pre-empted -- a > silence gap will appear on the audio stream, but if the output queue > has been built that is enough to keep audio output continuous. This is > the self-clocking algorithm that Thomas just described. Let me put it this way if vat does not write to the audio device on the average every 20ms we will hear audio gaps now if the sound is able to buffer and drain the buffers then that allow for slightly more tolerance for vat to not write audio packets every 20ms. > Are deltas above being computed by watching audio writes? Should be > easy enough as you say to monitor asynch notifications and see if > any are missing. If you haven't tinkered much with vat's code outside > of the audio.cc a problem with delivery of read notifications by the > sound driver sounds plausible. > Well, I will let you guys know what the problem is tonite. Just got in from work 8) Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 8 02:02:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA10576 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 02:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA10569 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 02:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA04941; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 02:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610080902.CAA04941@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Denis DeLaRoca 825-4580 (310) cc: multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GUS and VAT (Re: RealAudio on FreeBSD ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 07 Oct 1996 18:39:00 PDT." <199610080140.SAA18271@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 02:02:34 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If you were wondering about the 160ms gap here is more info: After a minute or so of playing.... write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 read msec 20 read msec 20 read msec 20 read msec 20 read msec 20 read msec 20 read msec 20 read msec 20 read msec 20 read msec 20 read msec 20 read msec 20 read msec 20 read msec 20 read msec 20 write msec 320 delta 0 block write msec 0 delta 0 block read msec 20 write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 The 320 millisecond gap could be attributed to packets out of order or missing packets. During that time NO packets where delivered to the sound driver . Here is the output of a fairly steady state : write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 write msec 20 delta 0 block read msec 20 write msec 20 delta 0 block Now a little bit about the printfs . Basically, "write msec ..." states the delta time it took vat to write a sound packet to the sound driver. "read msec .." states the delta time that the sound driver takes to read 160 bytes @ 8khz and notifies vat. At the very least the sound driver is not way off and it is doing its job. In audio.cc: void Audio::dispatch(int) { int delta,msec; struct timeval now; gettimeofday(&now, NULL); delta = ((1000 * now.tv_sec) + now.tv_usec / 1000) - ((1000 * read_delta.tv_sec) + read_delta.tv_usec / 1000); printf(" read msec %d \n", delta); read_delta = now; while (FrameReady()) handler_->audio_handle(); } ---- At the tail of VoxWare::write (thats the routine which vat calls to write a sound packet ) gettimeofday(&now, NULL); delta = ((1000 * now.tv_sec) + now.tv_usec / 1000) - ((1000 * write_delta.tv_sec) + write_delta.tv_usec / 1000); msec = ((1000 * now.tv_sec) + now.tv_usec / 1000) - ((1000 * write_last.tv_sec) + write_last.tv_usec / 1000); printf("write msec %d delta %d block \n", msec, delta, block_sound); write_last = now; ------- Next step is to test vat with my other local machine which I have to re-install FreeBSD . Enjoy, Amancio >From The Desk Of Denis DeLaRoca 825-4580 : > On Mon, 07 Oct 1996 12:26:52 -0700, > Amancio Hasty said: > > > What does it mean when you say "vat gets behind and sound gets distor- > > > ted"? If Vat gets behind because of a processing/scheduling delay that > > > > I mean this: > > write msec 20 delta 0 block > > write msec 20 delta 0 block > > write msec 40 delta 0 block > > write msec 20 delta 0 block > > write msec 20 delta 0 block > > write msec 160 delta 0 block > > ^^^^ > > write msec 1 delta 0 block > > write msec 19 delta 0 block > > write msec 20 delta 0 block > > write msec 20 delta 0 block > > > > sound driver. If you noticed the highlighted 160 delta time means > > that either the sound driver failed to deliver an asynch notification > > of the read or vat failed to write a sound packet at its scheduled > > 20ms interval. It should not be too hard to determine if its the > > Humm? Do we know if those deltas of 40 and 160 are when Vat has been > pre-empted? If it is pre-emption and no output queue has been built > yet -- because this is the first time Vat is being pre-empted -- a > silence gap will appear on the audio stream, but if the output queue > has been built that is enough to keep audio output continuous. This is > the self-clocking algorithm that Thomas just described. > > Are deltas above being computed by watching audio writes? Should be > easy enough as you say to monitor asynch notifications and see if > any are missing. If you haven't tinkered much with vat's code outside > of the audio.cc a problem with delivery of read notifications by the > sound driver sounds plausible. > > -- Denis > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 8 05:37:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA23125 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 05:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA23118 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 05:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA00636 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 05:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610081237.FAA00636@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: GUS PnP driver release 4 Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 05:37:00 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is an BETA release for the GUS PnP Pro. If you own any other soundcard or are not running *FreeBSD 2.2 don't bother using this sound driver. If you are running FreeBSD 2.1xx this driver will not compile for you The difference between a GUS PnP and a GUS PnP PRO is that the Pro comes with 512kb. I went out an got a 1mb 60ns 30pin simm and installed it on my GUS PnP. I own a GUS PnP and a GUS PnP PRO. BUGS: 1.0 The mic input level still does not work right so if you are using vat control the mic volume using vmix or mixer and use igain. For instance, mixer igain 100 set the input gain to 100 mixer igain 0 sets the input to 0 This does not fully shut the mic to fully silence the mic select another input. mixer +rec line3 or mixer +rec mix 2.0 I will release another version of vat in about a day or so after I get chance to test it further. ----- In /sys/i386/isa/isa.c convert the static define isa_dmarangecheck to a global define: static int isa_dmarangecheck __P((caddr_t va, u_int length, int chan)); --- int isa_dmarangecheck(caddr_t va, u_int length, int chan) { --- Also : #ifdef DIAGNOSTIC if (chan & ~VALID_DMA_MASK) panic("isa_dmastart: channel out of range"); if ((chan < 4 && nbytes > (1<<16)) || (chan >= 4 && (nbytes > (1<<17) || (u_int)addr & 1))) panic("isa_dmastart: impossible request"); if (dma_inuse & (1 << chan) == 0) printf("isa_dmastart: channel %d not acquired\n", chan); if (dma_busy & (1 << chan)) printf("isa_dmastart: channel %d busy\n", chan); #endif Either delete : if (dma_busy & (1 << chan)) printf("isa_dmastart: channel %d busy\n", chan); or enclosed in the DIAGNOSTIC define like I did. To unpack: cd / mv /sys/i386/isa/sound /sys/i386/isa/sound.old tar -xzf guspnp4-current.tar.gz **DO NOT RUN the configure program in /sys/i386/isa/sound** cd /sys/i386/conf Edit the kernel config file in /sys/i386/conf To configure your guspnp PRO if you have a motherboard which supports PnP: controller snd0 device gus0 at isa? vector gusintr To configure your guspnp PRO if your motherboard does NOT support PnP: device gus0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 11 drq 1 flags 0x3 vector gusintr the gus pnp is fully software configurable and the above configuration is setup for full duplex audio. The dma channel settings are: drq 1 --- DMA channel for playback flags 0x3 --- DMAN channel for recording config cd /sys/compile/ make make install If the make fails to find include files, edit your Makefile to have: INCLUDES= -nostdinc -I- -I. -I$S -I/sys/i386/isa/sound -I/sys/sys ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ add that THERE IS NO NEED TO BOOT TO DOS TO CONFIGURE YOUR GUS PNP. THE DRIVER HAS BUILTIN SUPPORT FOR PNP WHICH I GOT FROM THE GRAVIS DRIVER DEVELOPMENT KIT Many thanks to Brian Litzinger for porting the sound driver 3.5 to 2.2-current. Have fun, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 8 05:38:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA23172 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 05:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA23167 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 05:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA00646 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 05:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610081238.FAA00646@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: ftp://rah.star-gate.com:/pub/guspnp4-current.tar.gz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 05:38:35 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I forgot the url for the driver. Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 8 06:11:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA24877 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 06:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA24520 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 06:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA15958 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:20:08 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA17169 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:26:05 +0100 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:26:05 +0100 From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <199610081226.NAA17169@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: color quickcam driver? Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I got a ColorQuickCam here and I'm curious whether someone has gotten a driver for this. --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 8 12:08:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA17093 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 12:08:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (mvs.oac.ucla.edu [164.67.200.200]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA17088 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 12:08:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610081908.MAA17088@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: from UCLAMVS.BITNET by MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (IBM MVS SMTP V2R2.1) with BSMTP id 1472; Tue, 08 Oct 96 12:08:42 PST Date: Tue, 08 Oct 96 12:08 PDT To: Amancio Hasty From: Denis DeLaRoca (310) 825-4580 Subject: Re: GUS PnP driver release 4 CC: multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG Sender: owner-multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 08 Oct 1996 05:37:00 -0700, Amancio Hasty said: > > 2.0 I will release another version of vat in about a day or so > after I get chance to test it further. Here's what I am seeing or rather hearing with the new sound driver. With vat-4.0b1a that you modified to use the card in full duplex the CBC Radio feed is coming ok -- though I keep hearing static, or rumble, on the background, not always but quite frequent though. The old echo/ reverb that I keep hearing with v3 of the driver seems now gone... but subjectively the sound is not as good as it should be I think. I then did the following experiment: run the stock vat-4.0b2. This is using the LBL supplied audio-voxware.cc module which drives the sound device in half duplex mode. With this driver Vat is supposed to clock audio output with an external timer. Maybe this is not supposed to work but it does, and the sound quality seems subjectively fuller and cleaner, ie., the background static re- ported above is gone. I also a couple of times, vat froze for a few seconds and the sound driver went into a reverb loop of about 3 secs. I don't know exactly what is happening with Vat's audio output algori- thm as the playout window increases linearly up to about 6secs and then ratchets down to about 3secs with accompanying sound distortion. Bottom line, in full-duplex mode sound is better, reverb distortion is gone, but background static is present. I have no idea wether it is an artifact of Vat -- and more puzzling than in half duplex the sound is subjectively cleaner. Can you post the audio-voxware.cc Vat source module that you are playing with -- I presume that's the only part that changed, ie., no changes to audio.cc? -- Denis From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 8 14:54:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA02086 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 14:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (mvs.oac.ucla.edu [164.67.200.200]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA02075 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 14:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610082154.OAA02075@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: from UCLAMVS.BITNET by MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (IBM MVS SMTP V2R2.1) with BSMTP id 2572; Tue, 08 Oct 96 14:54:49 PST Date: Tue, 08 Oct 96 14:54 PDT To: multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG From: Denis DeLaRoca (310) 825-4580 Subject: Re: Re: GUS PnP driver release 4 Sender: owner-multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 08 Oct 96 12:08 PDT, Denis DeLaRoca 310 825-4580 said: > > Bottom line, in full-duplex mode sound is better, reverb distortion is > gone, but background static is present. I have no idea wether it is an > artifact of Vat -- and more puzzling than in half duplex the sound is > subjectively cleaner. Well I've been hanging around the CBC Radio feed for a while and I've had periods where the sound in full-duplex mode with vat-4.0b1a has been nearly perfect -- but the background static does come back at times. I also had times when apparently network conditions were such that sound overall degraded -- no way around this of course -- and in this case the full-duplex driver would do better than the half-duplex driver. Anyway, the background static that appears some of the time seems to be some artifact of how sound is being fed to the card in full duplex mode, ie., the half-duplex audio-voxware module doesn't seem to exhibit this problem. -- Denis From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 8 18:56:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA26158 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (daemon@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA26141 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (8.7.6/8.7.3) id LAA21378 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 11:56:20 +1000 Received: from pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au by ogre.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.7.5/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with ESMTP id MAA29399 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 12:00:45 +1000 (EST) Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au [167.123.24.12]) by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA21509 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 11:58:10 +1000 Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id BAA05090 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:58:55 GMT Message-Id: <199610090158.BAA05090@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Maelstrom port for FreeBSD X-Face: 3}heU+2?b->-GSF-G4T4>jEB9~FR(V9lo&o>kAy=Pj&;oVOc<|pr%I/VSG"ZD32J>5gGC0N 7gj]^GI@M:LlqNd]|(2OxOxy@$6@/!,";-!OlucF^=jq8s57$%qXd/ieC8DhWmIy@J1AcnvSGV\|*! >Bvu7+0h4zCY^]{AxXKsDTlgA2m]fX$W@'8ev-Qi+-;%L'CcZ'NBL!@n?}q!M&Em3*eW7,093nOeV8 M)(u+6D;%B7j\XA/9j4!Gj~&jYzflG[#)E9sI&Xe9~y~Gn%fA7>F:YKr"Wx4cZU*6{^2ocZ!YyR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 11:58:54 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Some of you may know about Maelstrom, a really nifty version of an asteriods style game that originated on the Mac. It was subsequently ported to Linux and thence to some other Unix boxes. I've ported it to FreeBSD & SVR4.2, using VOXware or NAS and forwarded the patches back to the author (this morning, as a matter of fact). I guess it's time to learn the ports subsystem, although with only mail/news access, it's going to be difficult to test. The game itself is available for anonftp at.... ftp://ftp.devolution.com/pub/maelstrom/Maelstrom-1.4.3-L2.0.3.tar.gz My patches follow *** SetDefault.sh.orig Tue Oct 8 22:08:59 1996 --- SetDefault.sh Wed Oct 9 10:28:55 1996 *************** *** 43,48 **** --- 43,76 ---- x11linkdir="-L/usr/X11R6/lib" fi ;; + FreeBSD) + features=" -DASYNCHRONOUS_IO -DUSE_POSIX_SIGNALS" + if [ \ + "`$Ask 'Do you want X11 Direct Graphics Access (experimental)?' 'n'`" != "n" ] + then + features="$features -DUSE_DGA" + x11libs="-lXxf86dga -lXxf86vm $x11libs" + fi + if [ \ + "`$Ask 'Do you want DMA audio support (experimental)?' 'y'`" != "n" ] + then + audio_ext="dma" + else + features="$features -DAUDIO_16BIT" + fi + if [ \ + "`$Ask 'Do you want NAS audio support (experimental)?' 'y'`" != "n" ] + then + audio_ext="nas" + soundlibs="-L/usr/X11R6/lib -laudio -lX11" + else + features="$features -DAUDIO_16BIT" + fi + if [ -d "/usr/X11R6/lib" ]; then + x11linkdir="-L/usr/X11R6/lib" + x11include="-I/usr/X11R6/include" + fi + ;; SunOS) features=" -DASYNCHRONOUS_IO -DUSE_POSIX_SIGNALS -DPLAY_DEV_AUDIO" x11include="-I/usr/openwin/include" *************** *** 65,70 **** --- 93,122 ---- cxx="CC" optimize="-woff 3252,3106" soundlibs="-laudio" + ;; + UNIX_SV) + # + # includes hackery with -D_STYPES needed for stopping static copies of lstat + # clashing left right & centre + # + features=" -DASYNCHRONOUS_IO -DUSE_POSIX_SIGNALS -DAUDIO_16BIT" + extralibs="-lsocket -lnsl" + if [ \ + "`$Ask 'Do you want NAS audio support (experimental)?' 'y'`" != "n" ] + then + audio_ext="nas" + else + features="$features -DAUDIO_16BIT" + fi + if [ -d "/usr/X11R6/lib" ]; then + x11linkdir="-L/usr/X11R6/lib" + x11include="-I/usr/X11R6/include -D_STYPES" + soundlibs="-L/usr/X11R6/lib -laudio -lX11 -lnsl -lsocket" + else + x11linkdir="-L/usr/X/lib" + x11include="-I/usr/X/include -D_STYPES" + soundlibs="-L/usr/X/lib -laudio -lX11 -lnsl -lsocket" + fi ;; *) echo "I don't know how to configure for $system, sorry." exit 1 *** bitesex.h.orig Tue Oct 8 22:33:44 1996 --- bitesex.h Wed Oct 9 10:16:18 1996 *************** *** 21,27 **** --- 21,35 ---- #ifdef _AIX #include #else + #ifdef __FreeBSD__ + #include + #else + #if defined(__svr4__) + #include + #else #error Compiling for an unknown architecture! + #endif /* SVR4 */ + #endif /* FreeBSD */ #endif /* AIX */ #endif /* DEC */ #endif /* HPUX */ *** mixer-dma.h.orig Wed Oct 9 08:42:34 1996 --- mixer-dma.h Wed Oct 9 10:47:16 1996 *************** *** 9,15 **** --- 9,23 ---- /* Include system specific audio header files */ + #if defined(__FreeBSD__) + #include + #else + #if defined(i386) && defined(__svr4__) + #include + #else #include + #endif + #endif #define _PATH_DEV_DSP "/dev/dsp" *** mixer-nas.cc.orig Tue Oct 8 22:34:21 1996 --- mixer-nas.cc Tue Oct 8 22:34:40 1996 *************** *** 75,81 **** speed = 11025; /* try and connect to the NCD audio server */ ! if (!(auserver=AuOpenServer(_PATH_DEV_DSP, 0, NULL, 0, NULL, NULL))) { if ( complain ) { perror("Mixer: Cannot connect to NCD audio server"); } --- 75,81 ---- speed = 11025; /* try and connect to the NCD audio server */ ! if (!(auserver=AuOpenServer(NULL, 0, NULL, 0, NULL, NULL))) { if ( complain ) { perror("Mixer: Cannot connect to NCD audio server"); } Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland, Australia. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 8 21:29:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA04171 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 21:29:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA04159 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 21:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA00301; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 00:29:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199610090429.AAA00301@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@freebsd.org From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: GUS PnP driver release 4 References: <199610081237.FAA00636@rah.star-gate.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 08 Oct 1996 05:37:00 PDT." <199610081237.FAA00636@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 00:29:38 -0400 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just tried the guspnp4 version of the sound driver, and I'm having some unexpected problems with it. It doesn't seem to be recongnizing the GUS PnP board as such; it seems to be found as a Gravis UltraSound 3.4. That is, at auto-config time, I see with the guspnp4 code this: Oct 8 23:20:32 whizzo /kernel.gus: gus0 at 0x220 irq 11 drq 5 flags 0x7 on isa Oct 8 23:20:33 whizzo /kernel.gus: Gravis UltraSound 3.4 (1024k)> at 0x220 irq 11 dma 5,7 rather than these messages with the guspnp3 code, with various fixes over the last week or so: Oct 8 23:26:26 whizzo /kernel: GUS MAX (CS4231)> at 0x32c dma 7,5 Oct 8 23:26:26 whizzo /kernel: Gravis UltraSound MAX (1024k)> at 0x220 irq 11 dma 5,7 Oct 8 23:26:26 whizzo /kernel: Oct 8 23:26:27 whizzo /kernel: malloc failed now trying contig Oct 8 23:26:27 whizzo last message repeated 2 times I thought that the lack of the "malloc failed now trying contig" messages was sort of interesting. I just rebuilt a new kernel with the guspnp3 version, just to make sure that other random changes to the kernel didn't affect this, and I still see the guspnp3+fixes working as expected, with the guspnp4 version configuring as above. The kernel configuration for the driver is: controller snd0 device gus0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 11 drq 5 flags 0x7 vector gusintr I have 2MB of RAM on the GUS PnP (though the driver has never found more than 1MB). Please advise if you need any other information. Any ideas? Louis Mamakos From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Oct 8 23:57:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA19679 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 23:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA19667 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 23:57:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA02522; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 23:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610090657.XAA02522@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: "Louis A. Mamakos" cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GUS PnP driver release 4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Oct 1996 00:29:38 EDT." <199610090429.AAA00301@whizzo.transsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 23:57:20 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I will look into into it and it looks like you hava non-pnp motherboard or you have the PnP option disable. My bug is I failed to initialized the card when the parameters for configurating the card are specified. About the 2MB , I can detect is just that I need to rewrite the gus player in order to take advantage of it and right now I don't have the time for it. I will probably re-release the driver tomorrow ... Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of "Louis A. Mamakos" : > > I just tried the guspnp4 version of the sound driver, and I'm having some > unexpected problems with it. It doesn't seem to be recongnizing the > GUS PnP board as such; it seems to be found as a Gravis UltraSound 3.4. > > That is, at auto-config time, I see with the guspnp4 code this: > > Oct 8 23:20:32 whizzo /kernel.gus: gus0 at 0x220 irq 11 drq 5 flags 0x7 on i sa > Oct 8 23:20:33 whizzo /kernel.gus: Gravis UltraSound 3.4 (1024k)> at 0x220 > irq 11 dma 5,7 > > rather than these messages with the guspnp3 code, with various fixes over > the last week or so: > Oct 8 23:26:26 whizzo /kernel: GUS MAX (CS4231)> at 0x32c dma 7,5 > Oct 8 23:26:26 whizzo /kernel: Gravis UltraSound MAX (1024k)> at 0x220 irq 1 1 > dma 5,7 > Oct 8 23:26:26 whizzo /kernel: > Oct 8 23:26:27 whizzo /kernel: malloc failed now trying contig > Oct 8 23:26:27 whizzo last message repeated 2 times > > I thought that the lack of the "malloc failed now trying contig" messages > was sort of interesting. > > I just rebuilt a new kernel with the guspnp3 version, just to make sure > that other random changes to the kernel didn't affect this, and I still > see the guspnp3+fixes working as expected, with the guspnp4 version > configuring as above. > > The kernel configuration for the driver is: > > controller snd0 > device gus0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 11 drq 5 flags 0x7 vector gusintr > > > I have 2MB of RAM on the GUS PnP (though the driver has never found more > than 1MB). Please advise if you need any other information. Any > ideas? > > Louis Mamakos > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 9 01:24:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA03924 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (mvs.oac.ucla.edu [164.67.200.200]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA03918 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610090824.BAA03918@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: from UCLAMVS.BITNET by MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (IBM MVS SMTP V2R2.1) with BSMTP id 4768; Wed, 09 Oct 96 01:25:01 PST Date: Wed, 09 Oct 96 01:24 PDT To: Amancio Hasty From: Denis DeLaRoca (310) 825-4580 Subject: Re: Re: GUS PnP driver release 4 CC: multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG Sender: owner-multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 08 Oct 1996 23:57:20 -0700, Amancio Hasty said: > > About the 2MB , I can detect is just that I need to rewrite the gus > player in order to take advantage of it and right now I don't have > the time for it. In my case the card is detected fine, I have a PnP board and the auto- configure code works fine. Only glitch is in detecting extra ram. My Gus PnP Pro with 512Kb and a 1MB simm of expansion ram is detected as having only 1MB... I did set the switches as per the Gravis doc, though their switch settings are a bit ambiguous. -- Denis From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 9 08:59:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA04606 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 08:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.pdx.edu (root@cs.pdx.edu [204.203.64.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA04601 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 08:59:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sapho.cs.pdx.edu (sapho.cs.pdx.edu [204.203.67.70]) by cs.pdx.edu (8.7.5/CATastrophe-2/10/96-P) with ESMTP id IAA00375; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 08:59:17 -0700 (PDT) for Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sapho.cs.pdx.edu (8.7.5/CATastrophe-9/18/94-C) with ESMTP id IAA28249; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 08:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610091559.IAA28249@sapho.cs.pdx.edu> To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, jrb@cs.pdx.edu Subject: nv/X screen-grab/vic ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:57:34 PDT." Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 08:59:07 -0700 From: Jim Binkley Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a small dream. I would like to be able to "multicast" a web browser, assume netscape. Is there some way to do that? I and a number of students have laptops equipped with a multicast-capable wavelan PCMCIA card (wavelan is < 2mbit radio lan, think it is ethernet which is not surprising since it uses intel ethernet controllers). I imagine that we are sitting in a conference room (or maybe there are a 100 students in a lecture hall!), and one of us is giving a lecture or a presentation via netscape. Yeah, sure we should use an overhead projector or an Infocus system. Fine. Remember, we are nerds here. Since we are multicasting it ... wavelan can handle that no problem, especially since the cell size is somewhere between 300-800 feet. One can get close with nv since it can grab the X frame, but it only grabs it in one of its window sizes, which can not be sized. It also follows the cursor. Ideally I would like to be able to choose a window and then have the display engine resize it. Have I missed something obvious? regards, Jim Binkley jrb@cs.pdx.edu From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 9 13:45:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA02034 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grex.cyberspace.org (grex.cyberspace.org [152.160.30.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA02012 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (entropy@localhost) by grex.cyberspace.org (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA17078; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:43:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:43:26 -0400 (EDT) From: chaos and disorder To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: SoundScape soundcard In-Reply-To: <199610081237.FAA00636@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I own an Ensoniq SoundScape sound card. I've been trying to compile support for it into the kernel, but am not having any success. If anyone out there has one of these cards (and made it work right) I would really like to her how you got yours to work. Thanks for your time, matt From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 9 15:35:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA13806 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 15:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA13796 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 15:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14763(3)>; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 15:34:30 PDT Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177476>; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 15:34:09 -0700 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: Jim Binkley cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nv/X screen-grab/vic ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Oct 1996 08:59:07 PDT." <199610091559.IAA28249@sapho.cs.pdx.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 15:34:01 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <96Oct9.153409pdt.177476@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199610091559.IAA28249@sapho.cs.pdx.edu>you write: >Have I missed something obvious? 1) There are several schemes going around where you multicast the web page or a URL, which would make a lot more sense than multicasting an image of the rendered page. 2) You must have missed the "Select Region" and "Select Window" buttons in the X grabber control panel (Panels... Show grabber controls). Bill From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 9 15:48:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA14967 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 15:48:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (mvs.oac.ucla.edu [164.67.200.200]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA14958 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 15:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610092248.PAA14958@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: from UCLAMVS.BITNET by MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (IBM MVS SMTP V2R2.1) with BSMTP id 4346; Wed, 09 Oct 96 15:49:06 PST Date: Wed, 09 Oct 96 15:48 PDT To: Amancio Hasty From: Denis DeLaRoca (310) 825-4580 Subject: Re: GUS PnP driver release 4 CC: multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG Sender: owner-multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 08 Oct 1996 05:37:00 -0700, Amancio Hasty said: > > 2.0 I will release another version of vat in about a day or so > after I get chance to test it further. More testing with vat4.0b1a and guspnp4. Switching audio among active vats doesn't work. When you switch focus to an alternate vat it fails to grab the audio device and you end up with repeated diagnostic messages failed to set non-block mode for /dev/audio 9 Later today, when tuned to Stanford's TV Channel on the MBONE, I actually got vat to freeze. The UV meter froze and none of Vat's buttoms would respond. The audio kept repeating forever the last few seconds of audio, in this case the phrase "frankly Stanford can have a bigger lead on this one". I don't think this was a loop on the audio device but rather on Vat's Controller::audio... either it is stuck in a write loop or on a loop getting read acknowledges that trigger the repeated writes. Earlier, I received today's Berkeley Multimedia Seminar by and large ok, there were problems with the MBONE that I think masked the other problems that I kept seeing with the sound driver, ie., background static/distortion. -- Denis From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 9 16:36:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA18355 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:36:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from quagmire.ki.net (root@quagmire.ki.net [205.150.102.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA18334 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spirit.ki.net (root@spirit.ki.net [205.150.102.51]) by quagmire.ki.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with ESMTP id TAA16866 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:36:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by spirit.ki.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA01463 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:36:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: spirit.ki.net: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:36:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Audio/Video using apache/freebsd... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi... I have a client that is looking at being able to do audio/video onto the Web (don't have full details as of yet, since I've only just heard about it)... My first thought was thta the Meteor Video Capture board under FreeBSD would do the trick, which I believe is the best thing available out there currently(?). Now, I haven't done much in the multimedia department yet, so please bear with the questions: 1. Is there a web site that deals with the board? specs? 2. Does the board do sound/video? ie. if I plug it into a VCR and press play on the VCR, will it pump uot both video *and* sound? 3. has anyone done any integration work that will allow it to be viewed from Netscape? I'll start with those three basic questions first, and if anyone has any pointers to web sites that I should go read dealing with this, please feel free to send those to me... Thanks... Marc G. Fournier scrappy@ki.net Systems Administrator @ ki.net scrappy@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 9 16:56:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA19982 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (daemon@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA19971 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:56:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (8.7.6/8.7.3) id JAA19487; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:56:35 +1000 Received: from pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au by ogre.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.7.5/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with ESMTP id KAA06887; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:01:09 +1000 (EST) Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au [167.123.24.12]) by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA23106; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:58:25 +1000 Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id XAA15468; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 23:59:12 GMT Message-Id: <199610092359.XAA15468@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: multimedia@freebsd.org cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, smpatel@umiacs.umd.edu Subject: When is the new sound code being committed? X-Face: 3}heU+2?b->-GSF-G4T4>jEB9~FR(V9lo&o>kAy=Pj&;oVOc<|pr%I/VSG"ZD32J>5gGC0N 7gj]^GI@M:LlqNd]|(2OxOxy@$6@/!,";-!OlucF^=jq8s57$%qXd/ieC8DhWmIy@J1AcnvSGV\|*! >Bvu7+0h4zCY^]{AxXKsDTlgA2m]fX$W@'8ev-Qi+-;%L'CcZ'NBL!@n?}q!M&Em3*eW7,093nOeV8 M)(u+6D;%B7j\XA/9j4!Gj~&jYzflG[#)E9sI&Xe9~y~Gn%fA7>F:YKr"Wx4cZU*6{^2ocZ!YyR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:59:11 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk There are an embarrassing number of programs out there that use the TASD features which we don't (as yet) support. Can someone do the work to commit the new code into current and let us beat the bugs out of it? Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland, Australia. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 9 17:32:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA23324 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA23316 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA28414; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:32:35 -0700 (PDT) To: Stephen Hocking cc: multimedia@freebsd.org, smpatel@umiacs.umd.edu Subject: Re: When is the new sound code being committed? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:59:11 +1000." <199610092359.XAA15468@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 17:32:35 -0700 Message-ID: <28412.844907555@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > There are an embarrassing number of programs out there that use the TASD > features which we don't (as yet) support. Can someone do the work to commit > the new code into current and let us beat the bugs out of it? What's a TASD? I can tell you that OSS Lite is coming fairly soon. See http://www.voxware.fi for more information. Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 9 18:26:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA27318 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 18:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA27307; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 18:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0vB9qW-0004s1C; Wed, 9 Oct 96 21:23 EDT Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08372; Wed, 9 Oct 96 21:21:34 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA12557; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:15:12 -0400 From: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Message-Id: <199610100115.VAA12557@elmer.ct.picker.com> Subject: AWE32 EMU driver ported To: hackers@freebsd.org, multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:15:12 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: rhh@ct.picker.com Organization: Picker International, CT Division X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just finished porting Takashi Iwai's Linux AWE32 Driver (EMU-8000 MIDI support) to the Voxware version in -current (3.0-beta-950506). It comes with a modified playmidi 2.3 including xplaymidi. What's do I need to do to integrate this into the distribution? I'm not familiar with how this works for kernel drivers. My patches can go into current pretty much as is. Also, if you have a Sound Blaster 32 or an AWE32 and are interested in patches, let me know. -- Randall Hopper rhh@ct.picker.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 9 21:22:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA09669 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (mvs.oac.ucla.edu [164.67.200.200]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA09645 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610100422.VAA09645@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: from UCLAMVS.BITNET by MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (IBM MVS SMTP V2R2.1) with BSMTP id 4419; Wed, 09 Oct 96 21:23:04 PST Date: Wed, 09 Oct 96 21:22 PDT To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: Denis DeLaRoca (310) 825-4580 Subject: Re: Re: When is the new sound code being committed? CC: multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG Sender: owner-multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 09 Oct 1996 17:32:35 -0700, "Jordan K. Hubbard" said: > > What's a TASD? I can tell you that OSS Lite is coming fairly soon. > See http://www.voxware.fi for more information. Better to look at http://www.4front-tech.com/oss.html, OSS-Lite's new home page. Voxware is now a trademark for somebody else... -- Denis From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 9 22:55:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA21789 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (daemon@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA21783 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (8.7.6/8.7.3) id PAA03107; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:55:07 +1000 Received: from pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au by ogre.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.7.5/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with ESMTP id PAA21869; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:59:53 +1000 (EST) Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au [167.123.24.12]) by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA23450; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:57:07 +1000 Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id FAA21242; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 05:58:01 GMT Message-Id: <199610100558.FAA21242@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: jkh@time.cdrom.com cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When is the new sound code being committed? X-Face: 3}heU+2?b->-GSF-G4T4>jEB9~FR(V9lo&o>kAy=Pj&;oVOc<|pr%I/VSG"ZD32J>5gGC0N 7gj]^GI@M:LlqNd]|(2OxOxy@$6@/!,";-!OlucF^=jq8s57$%qXd/ieC8DhWmIy@J1AcnvSGV\|*! >Bvu7+0h4zCY^]{AxXKsDTlgA2m]fX$W@'8ev-Qi+-;%L'CcZ'NBL!@n?}q!M&Em3*eW7,093nOeV8 M)(u+6D;%B7j\XA/9j4!Gj~&jYzflG[#)E9sI&Xe9~y~Gn%fA7>F:YKr"Wx4cZU*6{^2ocZ!YyR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:58:00 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Wed, 09 Oct 1996 17:32:35 -0700, > "Jordan K. Hubbard" said: > > > > What's a TASD? I can tell you that OSS Lite is coming fairly soon. > > See http://www.voxware.fi for more information. > > Better to look at http://www.4front-tech.com/oss.html, OSS-Lite's > new home page. Voxware is now a trademark for somebody else... > > -- Denis > Well, I've looked at that, and seen what looks suspiciously like a commercial project. I don't wish to pay for my formerly free sound code. I believe that Amancio has been working on the drivers - does anyone know where they can be ftp'd from? Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland, Australia. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Oct 9 23:02:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA22146 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 23:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (daemon@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA22140 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 23:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (8.7.6/8.7.3) id QAA03651 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:00:07 +1000 Received: from pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au by ogre.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.7.5/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with ESMTP id QAA22179 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:04:47 +1000 (EST) Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au [167.123.24.12]) by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA23461 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:02:01 +1000 Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id GAA21354 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 06:02:54 GMT Message-Id: <199610100602.GAA21354@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: SciTeXt 0.2 has been released X-Face: 3}heU+2?b->-GSF-G4T4>jEB9~FR(V9lo&o>kAy=Pj&;oVOc<|pr%I/VSG"ZD32J>5gGC0N 7gj]^GI@M:LlqNd]|(2OxOxy@$6@/!,";-!OlucF^=jq8s57$%qXd/ieC8DhWmIy@J1AcnvSGV\|*! >Bvu7+0h4zCY^]{AxXKsDTlgA2m]fX$W@'8ev-Qi+-;%L'CcZ'NBL!@n?}q!M&Em3*eW7,093nOeV8 M)(u+6D;%B7j\XA/9j4!Gj~&jYzflG[#)E9sI&Xe9~y~Gn%fA7>F:YKr"Wx4cZU*6{^2ocZ!YyR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:02:54 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk And now works with motif 1.X apparently. the FTP site is ftp://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/private/SciTeXt/ Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland, Australia. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 10 01:20:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA28932 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA28924 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA05605; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610100820.BAA05605@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Denis DeLaRoca 825-4580 (310) cc: multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GUS PnP driver release 4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Oct 1996 15:48:00 PDT." <199610092248.PAA14958@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:20:34 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Denis DeLaRoca 825-4580 : > On Tue, 08 Oct 1996 05:37:00 -0700, > Amancio Hasty said: > > > > 2.0 I will release another version of vat in about a day or so > > after I get chance to test it further. > > More testing with vat4.0b1a and guspnp4. Switching audio among > active vats doesn't work. When you switch focus to an alternate > vat it fails to grab the audio device and you end up with repeated > diagnostic messages > > failed to set non-block mode for /dev/audio 9 That message gets generated when vat fails to open /dev/audio. The bit about switching focus and grabbing a device has to be co-ordinated between the different vat sessions . My guess is that local ip multicast loopback for the conference bus is disabled and that is very easy to check to see if vat is getting any messages on the configuration bus. > Later today, when tuned to Stanford's TV Channel on the MBONE, I > actually got vat to freeze. The UV meter froze and none of Vat's > buttoms would respond. The audio kept repeating forever the last few > seconds of audio, in this case the phrase "frankly Stanford can have > a bigger lead on this one". I don't think this was a loop on the audio I think I know what happen and I have to make one for fix to alleviate this problem. > device but rather on Vat's Controller::audio... either it is stuck > in a write loop or on a loop getting read acknowledges that trigger > the repeated writes. The driver never gets stuck in a read loop however the audio write can get stuck on a loop and it has to deal with a register which I miskakenly set on the last version of the sound driver. > > Earlier, I received today's Berkeley Multimedia Seminar by and large > ok, there were problems with the MBONE that I think masked the other > problems that I kept seeing with the sound driver, ie., background > static/distortion. I am working on alleviating the slight distortion that you are hearing and it has to deal with starting and stopping the gus pnp every time that we send an audio packet to the card. The problem is easily alleviated by sending larger buffers to the card however it is a bit tricky because I do want to read 160 bytes at 8khz to maintain a 20ms timing for vat. Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 10 01:50:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA01199 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA01192 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA29420; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:50:23 -0700 (PDT) To: Denis DeLaRoca 825-4580 (310) cc: multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG Subject: Re: When is the new sound code being committed? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Oct 1996 21:22:00 PDT." <199610100422.VAA28888@time.cdrom.com> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:50:23 -0700 Message-ID: <29418.844937423@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Better to look at http://www.4front-tech.com/oss.html, OSS-Lite's > new home page. Voxware is now a trademark for somebody else... Thanks for the correction - you're right! Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 10 01:57:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA01548 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA01537 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA29442; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:57:39 -0700 (PDT) To: Stephen Hocking cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When is the new sound code being committed? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:58:00 +1000." <199610100558.FAA21242@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:57:39 -0700 Message-ID: <29440.844937859@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Well, I've looked at that, and seen what looks suspiciously like a commercial > project. I don't wish to pay for my formerly free sound code. I believe that > Amancio has been working on the drivers - does anyone know where they can be > ftp'd from? 1. It is a commercial project. 2. You don't have to pay for their "Lite" version, which still promises to be more capable than anything we have now. The basic idea is that we create a *standard* for sound drivers which folks like RealAudio or Xing Technologies can then target in their application software (and, if done right, work across platforms if general binary compatibility is also provided). OSS wants this badly enough that they're willing to release a version of OSS/Lite under the BSD copyright, and we can use it free and clear. If you want to support every last feature of the latest and greatest sound cards, you then look into buying the full OSS LKM, otherwise you just use the free stuff. Is any that less disturbing? I think standards are pretty important here, and they've already won the Linux and SCO markets. Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 10 02:34:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA04203 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 02:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA04197 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 02:34:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA00355; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 02:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610100934.CAA00355@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Denis DeLaRoca 825-4580 (310) , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When is the new sound code being committed? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:50:23 PDT." <29418.844937423@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 02:34:50 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of "Jordan K. Hubbard" : > > Better to look at http://www.4front-tech.com/oss.html, OSS-Lite's > > new home page. Voxware is now a trademark for somebody else... > > Thanks for the correction - you're right! > > Jordan They have announce the FreeBSD port for quite sometime . Additionally, because of the sound driver 3.5 port it should not be a big deal to port their sound driver. I have no idea why they haven't done yet. Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 10 02:51:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA04988 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 02:51:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA04983 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 02:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id CAA00393; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 02:51:07 -0700 (PDT) To: Amancio Hasty cc: Denis DeLaRoca 825-4580 (310) , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When is the new sound code being committed? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Oct 1996 02:34:50 PDT." <199610100934.CAA00355@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 02:51:06 -0700 Message-ID: <391.844941066@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > They have announce the FreeBSD port for quite sometime . Additionally, > because of the sound driver 3.5 port it should not be a big deal > to port their sound driver. I have no idea why they haven't done yet. Because Hannu would like to allocate some 64K of contiguous DMA space (if memory serves me correctly - it might be only 16K) and FreeBSD doesn't allow that once the system is up to the stage where an LKM would be loaded. We've talked to John Dyson about it and he's promised to try and work something out, though the problem is also not entirely trivial to fix, apparently. Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 10 03:22:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA07579 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 03:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA07569 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 03:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA00338; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 03:21:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610101021.DAA00338@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Denis DeLaRoca 825-4580 (310) , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When is the new sound code being committed? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Oct 1996 02:51:06 PDT." <391.844941066@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 03:21:52 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of "Jordan K. Hubbard" : > > They have announce the FreeBSD port for quite sometime . Additionally, > > because of the sound driver 3.5 port it should not be a big deal > > to port their sound driver. I have no idea why they haven't done yet. > > Because Hannu would like to allocate some 64K of contiguous DMA space > (if memory serves me correctly - it might be only 16K) and FreeBSD > doesn't allow that once the system is up to the stage where an LKM > would be loaded. We've talked to John Dyson about it and he's > promised to try and work something out, though the problem is also not > entirely trivial to fix, apparently. > We can pre allocate x amount of memory for the usage of the sound buffers during boot time or anyone else . Just set aside a memory pool for this. Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 10 03:26:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA07939 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 03:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA07932 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 03:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA00380; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 03:26:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610101026.DAA00380@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Denis DeLaRoca 825-4580 (310) cc: multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GUS PnP driver release 4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Oct 1996 15:48:00 PDT." <199610092248.PAA14958@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 03:26:17 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Denis DeLaRoca 825-4580 : > On Tue, 08 Oct 1996 05:37:00 -0700, > Amancio Hasty said: > > > > 2.0 I will release another version of vat in about a day or so > > after I get chance to test it further. > > More testing with vat4.0b1a and guspnp4. Switching audio among > active vats doesn't work. When you switch focus to an alternate > vat it fails to grab the audio device and you end up with repeated > diagnostic messages This is due to vat in group-ip.cc not setting the local ip multicast loop option. If you look in the code you will see #ifdef ultrix ttl = 1; if (setsockopt(ssock_, IPPROTO_IP, IP_MULTICAST_LOOP, &ttl, 1) < 0) { perror("GroupIPC: IP_MULTICAST_LOOP"); exit(1); } #endif Just change the #ifdef to #if defined(ultrix) || defined(__FreeBSD__) Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 10 03:46:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA09717 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 03:46:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA09708 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 03:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA05896; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:17:21 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199610101017.LAA05896@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: When is the new sound code being committed? To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:17:21 +0100 (MET) Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, CSP1DWD@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU, multimedia@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <391.844941066@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Oct 10, 96 02:50:47 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Because Hannu would like to allocate some 64K of contiguous DMA space > (if memory serves me correctly - it might be only 16K) and FreeBSD > doesn't allow that once the system is up to the stage where an LKM > would be loaded. We've talked to John Dyson about it and he's > promised to try and work something out, though the problem is also not > entirely trivial to fix, apparently. a similar problem (get a large contiguous chunk of RAM) exists in the meteor driver. There, allocation is done at probe time. Of course this does not help if you want to build the driver as an LKM, but perhaps one could use a simple hack while a better solution appears: if the kernel is expected to use this Sound Module as an LKM, put apart the required amount of memory early in the boot process, and serve memory requests from the sound driver from there. Luigi ==================================================================== Luigi Rizzo Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ ==================================================================== From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 10 03:56:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA10341 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 03:56:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA10333 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 03:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA00545; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 03:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610101053.DAA00545@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard), CSP1DWD@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU, multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: When is the new sound code being committed? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:17:21 BST." <199610101017.LAA05896@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 03:53:57 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Luigi Rizzo : > if the kernel is expected to use this Sound Module as an LKM, put > apart the required amount of memory early in the boot process, and > serve memory requests from the sound driver from there. You mean like storing the memory in a global like this? 8) USSmem = contigmalloc(64*1024, M_DEVBUF, M_NOWAIT, 0ul, 0x fffffful, 1ul, chan & 4 ? 0x20000ul : 0x10000ul); USSmem_size= 64*1024; Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 10 06:41:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA19312 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 06:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plains.nodak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA19307 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 06:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.nodak.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) id IAA04739; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:40:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:40:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199610101340.IAA04739@plains.nodak.edu> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com, luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it Subject: Re: When is the new sound code being committed? Cc: CSP1DWD@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Because Hannu would like to allocate some 64K of contiguous DMA space > > (if memory serves me correctly - it might be only 16K) and FreeBSD > > doesn't allow that once the system is up to the stage where an LKM > > would be loaded. We've talked to John Dyson about it and he's > > promised to try and work something out, though the problem is also not > > entirely trivial to fix, apparently. > > a similar problem (get a large contiguous chunk of RAM) exists in the > meteor driver. There, allocation is done at probe time. Of course > this does not help if you want to build the driver as an LKM, but > perhaps one could use a simple hack while a better solution appears: (agreeing with above points, I am just a little defensive on this point), the meteor driver needs a large contigous chunk of memory for the frame and boot time is the only time it will succeed. The cards do not give you the option of DMA-ing smaller chunks (well the odd/even scan lines could be seperated into different buffers). We tried to be a good citzen and release the buffer and once released I could never get that size chunk of contigous memory back. rewriting the VM code that goes to force contigous memory chunks is a tall request, but if done, our drivers will be more than pleased to release our buffers when we no longer need them. and you aint seen nothing yet, just wait until you see what an ATM driver allocates for initial memory! --mark. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 10 06:53:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA19892 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 06:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA19887 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 06:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id IAA04683; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:52:29 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199610101352.IAA04683@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: When is the new sound code being committed? To: tinguely@plains.nodak.edu (Mark Tinguely) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:52:29 -0500 (EST) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, CSP1DWD@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199610101340.IAA04739@plains.nodak.edu> from "Mark Tinguely" at Oct 10, 96 08:40:21 am Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > rewriting the VM code that goes to force contigous memory chunks is a tall > request, but if done, our drivers will be more than pleased to release our > buffers when we no longer need them. > Our new contigmalloc will be really inefficient, going on to draconian measures to find continguous memory. It is indeed a tall order to do the contiguous allocation correctly, but I am going to work-around some of the complexity by evicting pages mercilessly. The code is likely to best be used at LKM load time :-). John From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 10 09:44:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA00730 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00712 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id RAA06487; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:12:57 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199610101612.RAA06487@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: When is the new sound code being committed? To: tinguely@plains.nodak.edu (Mark Tinguely) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:12:57 +0100 (MET) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, CSP1DWD@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199610101340.IAA04739@plains.nodak.edu> from "Mark Tinguely" at Oct 10, 96 08:40:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > and you aint seen nothing yet, just wait until you see what an ATM driver > allocates for initial memory! but memory is almost free these days. Here is being sold at 100US$/16MB, so dedicating some 4-8MB at boot time to a bunch of high-performance or memory-hungry peripheral is not that bad. If you can afford 400US$ for the meteor (and how much for the ATM card), you certainly don't care about memory savings. Cheers Luigi ==================================================================== Luigi Rizzo Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ ==================================================================== From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 10 12:29:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA10334 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:29:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA10326 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA00920; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:29:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Audio/Video using apache/freebsd... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 9 Oct 1996, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > I have a client that is looking at being able to do > audio/video onto the Web (don't have full details as of yet, since > I've only just heard about it)... The big question is, how would you transmit this data? Server-push? Gateway to an mbone session? AVI movie? The Web server probably has nothing to do with it other than sending the file(s) involved. What you are looking for are utility/ies to capture the data and dump it to a file (or pipe?). I don't know of any offhand tho. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 10 12:52:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA11590 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA11583; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:52:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA01059; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610101952.MAA01059@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: hackers@freebsd.org cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Matrox Meteor and 440fx saga continues MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----- =_aaaaaaaaaa0" Content-ID: <1054.844977164.0@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:52:45 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1054.844977164.1@rah.star-gate.com> Not sure what to make out this . One thing is certain the problem still is not resolved. If anyone knows of a cool PCI video capture board which works with the Natoma chipset and we can get hold of the specs so we can write a driver please send me mail. Amancio ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Replied: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:43:19 -0700 Replied: Edward Replied: hasty@star-gate.com Replied: Mark Tinguely Replied: les@compmod.com Return-Path: support@cs.intel.com Received: from ormail.intel.com (ormail.intel.com [134.134.248.3]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00368 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.intel.com (cs.intel.com [134.134.190.5]) by ormail.intel.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA29093 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from marilyn (psmesrud.jf.intel.com [134.134.160.106]) by cs.intel.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA22936 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610101722.KAA22936@cs.intel.com> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:26:22 -0700 To: hasty@star-gate.com From: Edward Reply-To: Edward Errors-To: mailfail@cs.intel.com Subject: Matrox Meteor Locks ups PPRO 200MhZ with Natoma chipset In a message received by Intel on 9/30/96 1:23:00 PM, "Amancio Hasty Jr." wrote: >Anyone knows what the deal is with the Philips SAA 7116 and SAA 7196 >based video capture boards with the Natoma chipset. A few users >including myself are running into the problem that during video >capture for video conferencing the board locks up the system solid. > >I have tried all sorts of setting with no avail. Additionally, >I just found out that Matrox is aware of the problem and it claims >that is an Intel PCI bug. Any comments? > > Tnks At this time there are no known problems with the 440FX chipset. Intel is presently investigating the problem to determine the root cause. When the problem is verified and the cause determined we will do are best to inform you of the status of the situation. Regards, Edward Intel Application Support ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0-- From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 10 15:30:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA21508 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA21483 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14844(8)>; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:29:28 PDT Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177476>; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:29:16 -0700 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: Amancio Hasty cc: Denis DeLaRoca 825-4580 (310) , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GUS PnP driver release 4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Oct 1996 03:26:17 PDT." <199610101026.DAA00380@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:29:02 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <96Oct10.152916pdt.177476@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199610101026.DAA00380@rah.star-gate.com>you write: >This is due to vat in group-ip.cc not setting the local ip multicast loop >option. But it's on by default. You need to figure out what might be turning it off. Bill From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 10 15:57:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA23048 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (daemon@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA23043 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (8.7.6/8.7.3) id IAA18536; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:56:34 +1000 Received: from pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au by ogre.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.7.5/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with ESMTP id JAA13378; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:01:21 +1000 (EST) Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au [167.123.24.12]) by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA24678; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:58:28 +1000 Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id WAA26892; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 22:59:28 GMT Message-Id: <199610102259.WAA26892@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When is the new sound code being committed? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:57:39 MST." <29440.844937859@time.cdrom.com> X-Face: 3}heU+2?b->-GSF-G4T4>jEB9~FR(V9lo&o>kAy=Pj&;oVOc<|pr%I/VSG"ZD32J>5gGC0N 7gj]^GI@M:LlqNd]|(2OxOxy@$6@/!,";-!OlucF^=jq8s57$%qXd/ieC8DhWmIy@J1AcnvSGV\|*! >Bvu7+0h4zCY^]{AxXKsDTlgA2m]fX$W@'8ev-Qi+-;%L'CcZ'NBL!@n?}q!M&Em3*eW7,093nOeV8 M)(u+6D;%B7j\XA/9j4!Gj~&jYzflG[#)E9sI&Xe9~y~Gn%fA7>F:YKr"Wx4cZU*6{^2ocZ!YyR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:59:26 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > 2. You don't have to pay for their "Lite" version, which still promises to > be more capable than anything we have now. > Good! Agora (a mail web pages back to you style doodad) tends to obscure some info.. > The basic idea is that we create a *standard* for sound drivers which > folks like RealAudio or Xing Technologies can then target in their > application software (and, if done right, work across platforms if > general binary compatibility is also provided). OSS wants this badly > enough that they're willing to release a version of OSS/Lite under > the BSD copyright, and we can use it free and clear. If you want to > support every last feature of the latest and greatest sound cards, > you then look into buying the full OSS LKM, otherwise you just use > the free stuff. So when's it coming out???? > > Is any that less disturbing? I think standards are pretty important > here, and they've already won the Linux and SCO markets. This is true - my SCO contact (whom I've been working on the Broadway sound code with) has been using it a lot. Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland, Australia. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 10 16:45:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA25914 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA25898 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:45:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA06454; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:45:26 -0700 (PDT) To: Stephen Hocking cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When is the new sound code being committed? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:59:26 +1000." <199610102259.WAA26892@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:45:26 -0700 Message-ID: <6452.844991126@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > So when's it coming out???? Just as soon as Hannu and John can work out some way of allocating large congiguous DMA segments. John's mentioned some of his ideas in the public mailing lists, but I don't know what stage he and Hannu are currently at. > This is true - my SCO contact (whom I've been working on the Broadway sound > code with) has been using it a lot. I was told that the Broadway sound code project was shelved. :-) What's the real scoop? Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 10 17:57:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA01124 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (daemon@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA01114 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (8.7.6/8.7.3) id KAA05087; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:56:41 +1000 Received: from pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au by ogre.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.7.5/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with ESMTP id KAA15804; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:29:19 +1000 (EST) Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au [167.123.24.12]) by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA24767; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:26:26 +1000 Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id AAA28038; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 00:27:21 GMT Message-Id: <199610110027.AAA28038@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When is the new sound code being committed? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:45:26 MST." <6452.844991126@time.cdrom.com> X-Face: 3}heU+2?b->-GSF-G4T4>jEB9~FR(V9lo&o>kAy=Pj&;oVOc<|pr%I/VSG"ZD32J>5gGC0N 7gj]^GI@M:LlqNd]|(2OxOxy@$6@/!,";-!OlucF^=jq8s57$%qXd/ieC8DhWmIy@J1AcnvSGV\|*! >Bvu7+0h4zCY^]{AxXKsDTlgA2m]fX$W@'8ev-Qi+-;%L'CcZ'NBL!@n?}q!M&Em3*eW7,093nOeV8 M)(u+6D;%B7j\XA/9j4!Gj~&jYzflG[#)E9sI&Xe9~y~Gn%fA7>F:YKr"Wx4cZU*6{^2ocZ!YyR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:27:19 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > This is true - my SCO contact (whom I've been working on the Broadway sound > > code with) has been using it a lot. > > I was told that the Broadway sound code project was shelved. :-) > What's the real scoop? > > Jordan Sun & DEC pulled out (well, one did after they discovered the other had) the engineer(s) who were working on the project. A few of us (Peter Derr, Ray Tice, Shawn McMurdo & myself) decided that a good sound API was too important to abandon, and so are continuing. I'm having a fair few problems with the code at the moment, but hope to overcome them soon. It does a lot of dynamic loading of stuff, which may be causing problems similar what people have been reporting with kaffe & the JDK. Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland, Australia. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Oct 10 20:52:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA12298 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 20:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA12260; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 20:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0vBYYT-0004xAC; Thu, 10 Oct 96 23:46 EDT Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10840; Thu, 10 Oct 96 23:44:33 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA17050; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 23:44:37 -0400 From: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Message-Id: <199610110344.XAA17050@elmer.ct.picker.com> Subject: AWE32 Driver Port Uploaded To: hackers@freebsd.org, multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 23:44:37 -0400 (EDT) Cc: CSP1DWD@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU, jkh@time.cdrom.com, pjchilds@imforei.apana.org.au, didier@omnix.fr.org, bmk@fta.com, marcusg@elec.uq.edu.au Reply-To: rhh@dilbert.multiverse.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just uploaded the AWE32/SB32 driver port (with utilities) to: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/awedrv-0.1.6-port.tgz for whoever might be interested. Will submit the send-pr report to get this merged into current here in a minute. Please CC any follow-ups to the address below -- the one I'm posting from now will be out-of-commission Friday through mid-Monday. Thanks, and Enjoy! Randall Hopper rhh@dilbert.multiverse.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Oct 11 00:34:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA24880 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 00:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA24872 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 00:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id AAA13727 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 00:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id IAA07989 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:03:14 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199610110703.IAA07989@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: FW: Cool videocapture card now available! (fwd) To: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:03:13 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Some 10 days ago found this message on a newsgroup. They have an ISA board capable to do both video and full-duplex audio. While not the best in terms of efficiency (you have to INSW/OUTSW data between the board and main memory), the availability of both audio and video on the same baord looks appealing for videoconf applications. I have exchanged a couople of emails with Olivier Garbe (tech ?) Robert Scoble (mgmt ?) about their willingness of releasing programming info to build a FreeBSD driver, but haven't received further replies. YThey did not sound completely negative,though, so maybe some more requests from someone on the right continent might help. Amancio, Jordan ? Luigi Forwarded message: > From olivier_garbe@winnov.com Thu Oct 3 00:04:42 1996 > Message-Id: <01BBB07F.4CFCED40@zeus.winnov.com> > From: Olivier Garbe > To: "'luigi@iet.unipi.it'" > Cc: Robert Scoble > , > Frank Guerrero , > Junien Labrousse , > Kevin Supinger , > Harry Graham > Subject: FW: Cool videocapture card now available! > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:31:16 -0700 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > X-Status: > > Luigi, > > I will attempt to answer your questions in your E-mail. I have = > interspersed my answers within your message. > Olivier > > ---------- > From: Luigi Rizzo > Sent: Saturday, September 28, 1996 4:03 AM > To: Robert Scoble > Subject: Re: Cool videocapture card now available! > > Hi, > > In article <000093fe+00000661@msn.com>, you write: > |> Winnov's new Videum AV video/audio capture card is now available from = > > |> http://www.winnov.com. > > looking at the features of your card, it looks like an interesting > device, because of the integration of audio and video on the same > board. > > >From the specs I'd say that at least the video part is based on a > Philips SAA7191, same as the Matrox Meteor, Omnimedia and other > frame grabbers. The only (but significant, for some applications) > limitation with respect to these cards is the use of the ISA bus, > which limits a lot the ability to grab live video (you declare AVI > 320x240 @30fps which is about 2.6MB/s, close to the max speed of > the ISA bus, whereas the same 7191 on the PCI bus can easily give > you 640x480 @30fps with RGB15 or RGB32, I have done it many times). > > As a matter of fact, you will find that our board has better capture = > capability than most PCI capture cards, unless you buy the higher end = > Motion JPEG based cards. The reason for our performance is quite = > simple: PCI gives you very high bandwidth to system memory.... not to = > the disk!! The disk is the real limiting factor when one wants to = > capture video at 30fps for more than a second, this is why Videum has = > an on-board compression capability (approx. 4:1), providing up to = > 1.1MB/sec bandwidth for 352x240 @ 30fps video. This bandwidth is = > acceptable for most Pentium based PC that have a standard high capacity = > drive (>500MB) (all drives currently on the market have the necessary = > performance, no AV drive is required). > > I suppose that when you captured 640x480 @30fps with RGB15, you = > displayed it on screen, or captured it to memory, but certainly not to a = > standard hard-drive!! > > Hence, I encourage you to look into the production of a PCI board > with similar features. > > Since I would use the board under FreeBSD (and linux people would > have the same requirement) I would like to know if there is any > chance to get programming specs about the board, or if there is > any chance to make it work using standard drivers for the audio > (Microsoft Sound System ?) and video (Meteors/SAA7191 ?) ports. > > Basically, what we need to know is: > > - how does the board save frames to main memory ? Does it use shared > memory, on board DMA or what ? > Frames are stored in an on-board frame buffer accessible through I/O. = > No DMA since Pentium is faster doing I/O than ISA doing DMA. > > - how to send I2C commands to the 7191 controller ? Is there a > parallel-to-I2C converter on board, or you need to do bit-banging > under software control ? > The latter, the whole I2C is in software. > > - what the audio port looks like ? > Same as video, the audio is stored in the frame buffer and = > accessible/writeable through I/O. > > |> 6) Records AVI files at 30 frames per second at 352x240 at 24-bit.=20 > > I think this information is misleading. AVI means that color > components (or color differences) are decimated to give an average > of 9 bits/pixel (8 Y samples, 1 U sample, 8 Y samples, 1 V sample, ...). > > The information is somewhat misleading: we record AVI files at 30fps in = > a compressed YUV format. After decompression the video is formatted in = > a YUV 4:2:2 fashion (8-bitY 8-bitU 8-bitY 8-bitV) which provides 16-bit = > per Pixel. The format you are talking about is YVU9, and is specific to = > Intel's codec, not to AVI. AVI just specifies that Audio and Video are = > Interleaved, the format is specified by the codec used to encode the AVI = > file, and could be whatever you want (RGB, YUV, JPEG, ...). > > I would be grateful if you can inform me about the availability of > programming info for this board. In case you are interested in > supporting the board under FreeBSD, you might also send an announcement > to the following mailing list: > > hackers@freebsd.org > > Luigi, > > Could you let me know what you want to do with such documentation? We = > have to assess here the amount of support you would need. > Thanks, > Olivier > Regards > Luigi Rizzo > --=20 > ==================================================================== Luigi Rizzo Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ ==================================================================== From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Oct 11 11:35:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA16693 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA16674 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01859; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610111834.LAA01859@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Audio/Video using apache/freebsd... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:29:40 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:34:41 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If I am not mistaken Jim Binkley modified a set of web pages to which use rtp to send video and audio I think the original pages were written by Vinay Kumar. Amancio >From The Desk Of Doug White : > On Wed, 9 Oct 1996, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > I have a client that is looking at being able to do > > audio/video onto the Web (don't have full details as of yet, since > > I've only just heard about it)... > > The big question is, how would you transmit this data? Server-push? > Gateway to an mbone session? AVI movie? > > The Web server probably has nothing to do with it other than sending the > file(s) involved. What you are looking for are utility/ies to capture the > data and dump it to a file (or pipe?). I don't know of any offhand tho. > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Oct 12 02:40:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA14261 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 02:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br (root@cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.2.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA14255; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 02:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA18482; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 07:40:35 -0200 (EDT) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199610120940.HAA18482@mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: AWE32 Driver Port Uploaded To: rhh@dilbert.multiverse.com Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 07:40:35 -0200 (EDT) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org, multimedia@FreeBSD.org, CSP1DWD@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU, jkh@time.cdrom.com, pjchilds@imforei.apana.org.au, didier@omnix.fr.org, bmk@fta.com, marcusg@elec.uq.edu.au In-Reply-To: <199610110344.XAA17050@elmer.ct.picker.com> from Randall Hopper at "Oct 10, 96 11:44:37 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL14 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk #define quoting(Randall Hopper) // Just uploaded the AWE32/SB32 driver port (with utilities) to: // // ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/awedrv-0.1.6-port.tgz // // for whoever might be interested. Will submit the send-pr report to get // this merged into current here in a minute. // // Please CC any follow-ups to the address below -- the one I'm posting from // now will be out-of-commission Friday through mid-Monday. Thanks, and Enjoy! Is this a full-duplex driver ? Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 ( Job ) jonny@cisi.coppe.ufrj.br Network Manager UFRJ/COPPE/CISI Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Oct 12 12:04:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA19758 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 12:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA19652 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 12:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id TAA10457 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 19:35:58 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199610121835.TAA10457@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: grabber-x11.cc for vic 2.8 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 19:35:57 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If someone is interested, I have done some initial work in adding an x11-grabber to vic-2.8. Basically, I have merged grabber-meteor.cc and some relevant files (x11-grab.c etc) from nv, and tried to make things compile and do something useful (not understanding much of what I have done :( ). At this point, the code kind of works (you can have your grab window follow the pointer) but only in BW and it is certainly full of bugs. I need someone with more experience on these things to take over my work and complete things (Amancio's "tv" program has benefited a lot from this kind of cooperation). So, the new file grabber-x11.cc is at the following URL http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/grabber-x11.cc while diffs for main.cc (very short) are at http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/main.cc.diffs This is against vic-2.8 as distributed from ftp.ee.lbl.gov about a couple of weeks ago. You just need to patch main.cc, add the grabber-x11 to the list of grabbers, and rebuild vic. Feedback appreciated! Thanks Luigi ==================================================================== Luigi Rizzo Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ ==================================================================== From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Oct 12 17:28:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA16344 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 17:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA16330 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 17:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA00587; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 17:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610130028.RAA00587@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: grabber-x11.cc for vic 2.8 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 12 Oct 1996 19:35:57 BST." <199610121835.TAA10457@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 17:28:26 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Luigi Rizzo : > work and complete things (Amancio's "tv" program has benefited a lot > from this kind of cooperation). Glad to hear that tv is useful. I am thinking that someone or I should write a simple sound app which shows how to use the sound driver a sound kit of sorts. Regards, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Oct 12 18:16:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA20084 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 18:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dilbert.multiverse.com (rhh@dilbert.multiverse.com [207.170.128.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA20076; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 18:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by dilbert.multiverse.com (8.7.5/Multiverse) id VAA02522; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 21:16:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Randall Hopper Message-Id: <199610130116.VAA02522@dilbert.multiverse.com> Subject: Re: AWE32 Driver Port Uploaded To: jonny@mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br (Joao Carlos Mendes Luis) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 21:16:06 -0400 (EDT) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199610120940.HAA18482@mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br> from Joao Carlos Mendes Luis at "Oct 12, 96 07:40:35 am" Reply-To: rhh@dilbert.multiverse.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Joao Carlos Mendes Luis: >#define quoting(Randall Hopper) >// Just uploaded the AWE32/SB32 driver port (with utilities) to: > >Is this a full-duplex driver ? No, this driver only buys you EMU-8000 support (i.e. great sounding MIDIs). PCM support for record and play isn't within the scope of this driver. This is still handled by the underlying SB/SB16 drivers which (to my knowledge) are still half-duplex. Randall Hopper rhh@ct.picker.com