From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 28 03:54:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA15229 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 03:54:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chizuru.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (yy-sync-relay.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp [131.113.73.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA15223 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 03:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp [131.113.47.22]) by chizuru.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (8.6.12+2.5W/3.1W-2.8compat) with ESMTP id TAA05329; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 19:53:49 +0900 Received: (from sanpei@localhost) by lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (8.7.5/3.4Wbeta5) id RAA02367; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 17:40:10 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199607270840.RAA02367@lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp> To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: how to get minor version name in ports collection program. X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05 on Emacs 19.28.1, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 17:40:10 +0900 From: MIHIRA Yoshiro Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I'm wide-dhcp ports maintainer. 2.2-currents was changed as follows from 960612-SNAP: * davidg 96/06/12 19:54:21 * * Modified: sys/net if_ethersubr.c * sys/netinet if_ether.c * Log: * Keep ether_type in network order for BPF to be consistent with other * systems. * * Submitted by: Ted Lemon, Matt Thomas, and others. Retrofitted for * -current by me. Then wide-dhcp and maybe CAP which use ether_type, can't run under FreeBSD-currents kernel and new 2.2-SNAP. If I remake wide-dhcp ports collection that is support old 2.2-SNAP(960612 and older) and current/new SNAP, ports-correction's C program must recognize miner FreeBSD version at compile time. But from *FreeBSD Handbook*, the version number via macro is only `__FreeBSD_version' and it was not different between 2.2-SNAP versions. It is same number: `199512' under 2.2-SNAPSHOT series. >From FreeBSD handbook: 18.2.5.1. Before Starting the Port * __FreeBSD_version values: * * 2.0-RELEASE: 199411 * 2.1-current's: 199501, 199503 * 2.0.5-RELEASE: 199504 * 2.1.0-RELEASE: 199511 * 2.2-current before 2.1: 199508 * 2.2-current as 10 Jan 1996: 199512 (will certainly be bumped) Is `ports-current' source tree only support FreeBSD-currents or latest SNAP?? ---------- And in `packages-current/All', fee program is not stayed: `swisswatch' and `gnu-finger'. Please check it. Thank you. Yoshiro MIHIRA Keio Univ. Japan From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 28 05:01:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA19324 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 05:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA19317 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 05:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) id NAA18776 for ports@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 13:45:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by klemm.gtn.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA16728 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 13:41:04 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 13:41:04 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andreas Klemm To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: updated gs 4.01 port (unoff arc fix, libz 1.0.4, batch) Message-ID: X-try-apsfilter: ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz X-Fax: +49 2137 2018 X-Phone: +49 2137 2020 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi ! Last recently I made several changes to the ghostscript 4.01 port - added dialog menue for easy driver selection, default drivers are preselected in the dialog menue - if BATCH variable is set to yes for mass compilation, the interactive menue isn't shown, instead the default drivers are preselected + the stcolor driver for Stylus PRO, etc. - unofficial patch that fixes arc drawing problems %!PS-Adobe-2.0 newpath 300 100 moveto 80 100 80 300 30 arcto 4 {pop} repeat stroke showpage This little file should produce a drawing like this at the end of your page. With gs-2.6.2 you'll see something like this: . . . . . ...................... Without the patch you see something like this with gs-4.01: . . . . . . Please let me know, if the patch breaks something ... Andreas /// - -- andreas@klemm.gtn.com /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ Support Unix -- andreas.klemm@wup.de pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBMftRxfMLpmkD/U+FAQESSQP+OuN18pRwKvZbWLiAE1yw/xFOqpjMGG71 RjioJUYsi+TKhMzFT7yDu0WX2Ius3kzn43rOylWDzgs/t6+6FpGeYM+5wXMYMTTV ewYJ+hiHZtJTJJWG/OA1zxUKjXjz/TrkEKF4SFOg7NkuXohobzryxgC+EQvxN82K qvVakPXGMv8= =QRIW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 28 12:47:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA06987 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 12:47:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.tioga.com (root@falcon.tioga.com [205.146.65.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA06978 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 12:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tbalfe@localhost) by falcon.tioga.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id PAA03468; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 15:47:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 15:47:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas J Balfe To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: xbench-0.2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I stuck xbench-0.2.tar.gz and xbench-0.2.tgz in ~incoming, port and package. [snip] Comment: xbench - benchmark for X servers Description: xbench gives you a chance of measuring tuning, enhancements and comparing different server implementations/machines. xbench is a graphic test - it does not test overall workstation performance. Xbench has been written because think that numbers are better than works like "this machine performs good/bad/wonderful ...." :-). read man-page and documentation for more detail. [snip] ======================================================================== Thomas J Balfe tbalfe@tioga.com President http://www.tioga.com/ Tioga Communications, Inc 814-867-4770 ======================================================================== "Humanity has been compared...to a sleeper who handles matches in his sleep and wakes to find himself in flames." - H.G. Wells The World Set Free 1914 From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 28 14:49:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA12452 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 14:49:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inga.augusta.de (root@inga.augusta.de [193.175.23.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA12446 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 14:49:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rabbit by inga.augusta.de with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ukdgy-004dKkC; Sun, 28 Jul 96 23:48 MET DST Received: by rabbit.augusta.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ukdbF-000A6DC; Sun, 28 Jul 96 23:42 MET DST Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New port: asedit, gimp, logsurfer, xed In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 27 Jul 1996 19:15:02 +0200." <199607271715.TAA03411@keltia.freenix.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 23:42:09 +0200 From: Andreas Kohout Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Some new ports (hoply actuall :-) asedit-1.3.2-port.tgz - text editor for X/Motif gimp-0.54.1-port.tgz - the General Image Manipulation Program logsurfer-1.41-port.tgz - process logfiles and perform certain actions xed-1.3-port.tgz - a text editor for X there are in ftp://ftp.freebsd.com/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/ -- Greeting, Andy running FreeBSD-current --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 28 14:50:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA12493 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 14:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inga.augusta.de (root@inga.augusta.de [193.175.23.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA12459 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 14:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rabbit by inga.augusta.de with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ukdgx-004dKjC; Sun, 28 Jul 96 23:48 MET DST Received: by rabbit.augusta.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ukdWF-000A6DC; Sun, 28 Jul 96 23:36 MET DST Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New port: Plan 1.4.4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 27 Jul 1996 19:15:02 +0200." <199607271715.TAA03411@keltia.freenix.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 23:36:58 +0200 From: Andreas Kohout Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, > Nice. Can you try to port 1.5 instead ? :-) hm, I think I searched for plan via archie and there was no hit on 1.5 ... Maybe it was too early in the morning ... :-) But I have heared that eischen@iworks.InterWorks.org has ported 1.5 but his port is was never committed. -- Greeting, Andy running FreeBSD-current --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 28 15:09:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA13729 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 15:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA13716 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 15:09:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA13725; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 18:06:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Andreas Kohout cc: ports@freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: New port: asedit, gimp, logsurfer, xed In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jul 1996 23:42:09 +0200." Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 18:06:30 -0400 Message-ID: <13722.838591590@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Andreas Kohout wrote in message ID : > > Some new ports (hoply actuall :-) > > asedit-1.3.2-port.tgz - text editor for X/Motif > gimp-0.54.1-port.tgz - the General Image Manipulation Program > logsurfer-1.41-port.tgz - process logfiles and perform certain > actions > xed-1.3-port.tgz - a text editor for X > > there are in ftp://ftp.freebsd.com/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/ Umm? I just checked and I couldn't see them (at least not logsurfer) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 28 15:34:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA14767 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 15:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po2.glue.umd.edu (po2.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA14761 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 15:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from protocol.eng.umd.edu (protocol.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.180]) by po2.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA26302 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 18:33:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by protocol.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA20731; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 18:33:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 18:33:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@protocol.eng.umd.edu To: FreeBSD Ports Subject: place for new ports Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I see all the announcements of new ports going by, much too fast to do anything about them, and I worry about things falling into cracks. I wonder if there shouldn't be another method for folks registering new ports, in such a way that allows us to go back whenever there's free time. and look over anything that hasn't been done, and do it. I'd want it to be able to take the suggested port and store it, with the email address of the contributor. I'd want the ability to kill that port later, either when it is committed, or when the contributor notices that 'omigawd' bug he left in, so it could be squashed before a developer has to find it. I'd want it to be separated from any non-port stuff, because the volume is high enough as it is, and eliminating confusion would be best served that way. Couple of ways to do it: 1) Make a new ftp directory (maybe ports-contrib). Only ports go into it. Drawback: little enforcement of return email addresses of contributors, and no way to stop confused folks from putting _whatever_ into it. 2) Make a new mail address, (again maybe ports-contrib@freebsd.org). Set up sendmail so that mail to this address gets posted as files in a directory, with filenames as mail subject lines. Contributors could easily do overwriting then, and make it so only committers could delete from it. Folks could put ports in .tar.gz.uue format into it. This would enforce having email addresses (practically), and committers could delete ports they'd committed or trashed. Any other ideas on how to do it? or if it's needed at all? ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 28 16:20:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA17037 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 16:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA17032 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 16:20:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id QAA05999 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 16:20:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "David E. O'Brien" Message-Id: <199607282320.QAA05999@relay.nuxi.com> Subject: rzsz To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (FreeBSD ports list) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 16:20:40 -0700 (PDT) X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just tried to build the rzsz port (I just ftp'ed it). It gets a "checksum mismatch for rzsz.zip". Looking on the master ftp site, it looks like the file changed on the 26th. -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu) From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 28 16:46:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA18051 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 16:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA18046 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 16:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id QAA06042 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 16:46:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "David E. O'Brien" Message-Id: <199607282346.QAA06042@relay.nuxi.com> Subject: INDEX problems To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (FreeBSD ports list) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 16:46:43 -0700 (PDT) X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just installed 2.1.5-RELEASE via ftp. Seems the packages INDEX file used in sysinstall is slightly corrupt. The first two ports are displayied wrong. The first is a graphic symbol, the second has no name, and you are shown the catagories instead. -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu) From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 28 16:55:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA18453 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 16:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA18448 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 16:55:08 -0700 (PDT) From: hopcrof@ibm.net Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA57868 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 23:55:06 GMT Message-Id: <199607282355.XAA57868@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip202-135-22-188.sy.au.ibm.net(202.135.22.188) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma4v8De7; Sun Jul 28 23:55:00 1996 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 96 09:49:10 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problems typing make for Mosaic 2.7b4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am having problems with the make of Mosaic 2.7b4. The make passes the dependencies then stops with an error like ./src/Xmx/Xmx.h unknown or missing file. error 1 stop Both the directory Xmx and the file appear in directory listings. I have ...Mosaic..tar.gz in the /usr/ports/distfiles and the make appears to have unpacked it into below a directory (created by the download) containing files Makefile pkg PLI? Do i need Motif for Mosaic ? Will Mosaic work with X11R6 (from XFree86) ? Thank you Yours faithfully Stanley Hopcroft Australian Industrial Property Organisation (AIPO. A Fed Government business that sells Patent and Trade Mark rights) From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 28 17:21:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA19583 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 17:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA19578 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (kimc@localhost) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA28039; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 20:19:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: moonpie.w8hd.org: kimc owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 20:19:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Kim Culhan To: Andreas Kohout cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New port: asedit, gimp, logsurfer, xed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 28 Jul 1996, Andreas Kohout wrote: > > Some new ports (hoply actuall :-) > > asedit-1.3.2-port.tgz - text editor for X/Motif > gimp-0.54.1-port.tgz - the General Image Manipulation Program > logsurfer-1.41-port.tgz - process logfiles and perform certain actions > xed-1.3-port.tgz - a text editor for X > > there are in ftp://ftp.freebsd.com/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/ Hmm.. I don't see logsurfer there. kim -- kimc@w8hd.org From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 28 17:24:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA19668 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 17:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.tioga.com (root@falcon.tioga.com [205.146.65.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA19647 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 17:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tbalfe@localhost) by falcon.tioga.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id UAA03695; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 20:24:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 20:24:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas J Balfe To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: llnl xftp-2.1 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have stuck LLNL XFTP in ~incoming. I have tried to compile a static version for those who do not have Motif, but I couldn't get it to. If someone will show me how, I'll be glad to compile things statically linked to -Xm for those who do not have it. [snip] riffraff: {241} pkg_info llnlxftp-2.1.tgz Information for llnlxftp-2.1.tgz: Comment: llnlxftp - Motif(TM) FTP client Description: LLNL XFTP can be used to manage files in a heterogeneous network by using an intuitive point-and-click interface. One of its more notable features is its ability to perform third-party file transfers. ======================================================================== Thomas J Balfe tbalfe@tioga.com President http://www.tioga.com/ Tioga Communications, Inc 814-867-4770 ======================================================================== "Humanity has been compared...to a sleeper who handles matches in his sleep and wakes to find himself in flames." - H.G. Wells The World Set Free 1914 From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 28 18:18:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA22426 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 18:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postoffice.Reston.mci.net (postoffice.Reston.mci.net [204.70.128.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA22420 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 18:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yuhfen.mci.net (dialup548.Washington.mci.net [204.71.166.40]) by postoffice.Reston.mci.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA14085 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 21:17:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31FC117A.DB4@mci.net> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 21:18:50 -0400 From: yuhfen Reply-To: yuhfen@mci.net Organization: mci X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5a (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ports@freeBSD.ORG Subject: Maplayer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I accidentally typed in the wrong application, so my Maplayer will not down load, could you tell me how to download it? Thank you. - yuhfen From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 28 18:28:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA22822 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 18:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iago.ienet.com (iago.ienet.com [207.78.32.53]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA22816 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 18:28:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ienet.com (localhost.ienet.com [127.0.0.1]) by iago.ienet.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA08327; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 18:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607290127.SAA08327@iago.ienet.com> To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG From: pius@ienet.com Subject: ssh port specifies an incorrect md5 checksum? Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 18:27:54 -0700 Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> Checksum mismatch for ssh-1.2.14.tar.gz *** Error code 1 # cat files/md5 MD5 (ssh-1.2.14.tar.gz) = 4c23661228a7946f9fb7aa40d6c7dad4 MD5 (rsaref2.tar.gz) = 0b474c97bf1f1c0d27e5a95f1239c08d # cd /usr/ports/distfiles # md5 ssh-1.2.14.tar.gz MD5 (ssh-1.2.14.tar.gz) = c95349f27d32ad270dda4b87051f2a5f Does the latest ssh port specify an incorrect checksum? Pius From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 28 19:25:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA25011 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 19:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA25005 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 19:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA03669; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 19:25:28 -0700 (PDT) To: "David E. O'Brien" cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (FreeBSD ports list) Subject: Re: INDEX problems In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jul 1996 16:46:43 PDT." <199607282346.QAA06042@relay.nuxi.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 19:25:28 -0700 Message-ID: <3667.838607128@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I just installed 2.1.5-RELEASE via ftp. > > Seems the packages INDEX file used in sysinstall is slightly corrupt. > The first two ports are displayied wrong. The first is a graphic symbol, > the second has no name, and you are shown the catagories instead. Hmmmm. Thanks. Ah well! Replacing it now would probably cause more harm than good. Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 28 19:28:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA25208 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 19:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA25182 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 19:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA03705; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 19:27:40 -0700 (PDT) To: Thomas J Balfe cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: llnl xftp-2.1 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jul 1996 20:24:04 EDT." Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 19:27:40 -0700 Message-ID: <3703.838607260@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have stuck LLNL XFTP in ~incoming. I have tried to compile a static What machine? ;-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 28 19:31:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA25387 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 19:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA25379 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 19:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA04054; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 19:30:48 -0700 (PDT) To: pius@ienet.com cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ssh port specifies an incorrect md5 checksum? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jul 1996 18:27:54 PDT." <199607290127.SAA08327@iago.ienet.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 19:30:48 -0700 Message-ID: <4052.838607448@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I think so, I'll fix it. > > >> Checksum mismatch for ssh-1.2.14.tar.gz > *** Error code 1 > > # cat files/md5 > MD5 (ssh-1.2.14.tar.gz) = 4c23661228a7946f9fb7aa40d6c7dad4 > MD5 (rsaref2.tar.gz) = 0b474c97bf1f1c0d27e5a95f1239c08d > # cd /usr/ports/distfiles > # md5 ssh-1.2.14.tar.gz > MD5 (ssh-1.2.14.tar.gz) = c95349f27d32ad270dda4b87051f2a5f > > Does the latest ssh port specify an incorrect checksum? > > Pius From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 28 20:18:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA27351 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 20:18:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.tioga.com (root@falcon.tioga.com [205.146.65.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA27341 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 20:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tbalfe@localhost) by falcon.tioga.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id XAA03865; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 23:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 23:18:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas J Balfe To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: LLNL XDIR 2.0 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have uploaded LLNL XDIR 2.0 to ~incoming on wcarchive. It is a different version of the LLNL XFTP 2.1 that I have uploaded earlier. This one supports drag-and-drop file transfer. It requires Motif to build. Enjoy. llnlxdir-2.0.tar.gz -- port llnlxdir-2.0.tgz -- package [snip] riffraff: {30} pkg_info llnlxdir-2.0.tgz Information for llnlxdir-2.0.tgz: Comment: llnlxdir - Motif(TM) FTP client with drag-and-drop file transfer Description: LLNL XDIR is meant to be the successor to LLNL XFTP, another graphical FTP client. LLNL XDIR is considerably more sophisticated than LLNL XFTP, and has all of its functionality. ======================================================================== Thomas J Balfe tbalfe@tioga.com President http://www.tioga.com/ Tioga Communications, Inc 814-867-4770 ======================================================================== "Humanity has been compared...to a sleeper who handles matches in his sleep and wakes to find himself in flames." - H.G. Wells The World Set Free 1914 From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Jul 28 21:40:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA00631 for ports-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 21:40:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.tioga.com (root@falcon.tioga.com [205.146.65.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00626 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 21:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tbalfe@localhost) by falcon.tioga.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id AAA03947; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 00:40:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 00:40:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas J Balfe To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: static of llnlxftp and llnlxdir Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have put static versions of llnlxftp and llnlxdir in ~incoming on wcarchive for those who do not have Motif. llnlxdir-2.0-static.tgz llnlxftp-2.1-static.tgz ======================================================================== Thomas J Balfe tbalfe@tioga.com President http://www.tioga.com/ Tioga Communications, Inc 814-867-4770 ======================================================================== "Humanity has been compared...to a sleeper who handles matches in his sleep and wakes to find himself in flames." - H.G. Wells The World Set Free 1914 From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 01:28:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA12332 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 01:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.tioga.com (root@falcon.tioga.com [205.146.65.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA12316 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 01:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tbalfe@localhost) by falcon.tioga.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id EAA04240; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 04:27:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 04:27:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas J Balfe To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: idled-1.16 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have put idled-1.16 in ~incoming on wcarchive. Idled keeps an eye on the current users and logs them out if they have exceeded the limits that you set in it's configuration file. It will help administrators enforce policy, yet also gives the ease of a port/package. I hope it comes in handy, enjoy! idled-1.16.tar.gz -- port idled-1.16.tgz -- package [snip] riffraff: {339} pkg_info idled-1.16.tgz Information for idled-1.16.tgz: Comment: idled - keeps an eye on current users Description: Idled is a "demon" that runs on a machine to keep an eye on current users. If users have been idle for too long, or have been logged on for too long, it will warn them and log them out appropriately. The types of checks that idled performs are idle (too long), session (too long), multiple (too many) or refuse (luser). ======================================================================== Thomas J Balfe tbalfe@tioga.com President http://www.tioga.com/ Tioga Communications, Inc 814-867-4770 ======================================================================== "Humanity has been compared...to a sleeper who handles matches in his sleep and wakes to find himself in flames." - H.G. Wells The World Set Free 1914 From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 01:31:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA12638 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 01:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA12632 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 01:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id BAA12030 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 01:31:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "David E. O'Brien" Message-Id: <199607290831.BAA12030@relay.nuxi.com> Subject: "Version required:" Makefile comment To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (FreeBSD ports list) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 01:31:30 -0700 (PDT) X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just what is the "# Version required: 2.2 [things like "1.5alpha" are fine here too]" line in a port's Makefile for? Is the version of FBSD required or the port? Is it actually checked anywhere? -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu) From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 02:02:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA14189 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 02:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA14182 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 02:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id CAA12332 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 02:02:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "David E. O'Brien" Message-Id: <199607290902.CAA12332@relay.nuxi.com> Subject: file permissions and umask To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (FreeBSD ports list) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 02:02:10 -0700 (PDT) X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Should the installation of a package be sensitive to the installer's umask? Ie, should binaries and directories be 755 or 755 - umask bits? It seems some packages are will be installed with "wrong" permissions if a umask of say 027 is in affect. -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu) From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 02:51:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA16514 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 02:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.tioga.com (root@falcon.tioga.com [205.146.65.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA16509 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 02:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tbalfe@localhost) by falcon.tioga.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id FAA04346; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 05:51:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 05:51:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas J Balfe To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: bing-1.0.4 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have put bing-1.0.4 in ~incoming on wcarchive. This one should be fun. bing-1.0.4.tar.gz -- port bing-1.0.4.tgz -- package [snip] riffraff: {128} pkg_info bing-1.0.4.tgz Information for bing-1.0.4.tgz: Comment: bing - point-to-point bandwidth measurement tool Description: Bing determines the real (raw, as opposed to available or average) throughput on a link by measuring ICMP echo requests roundtrip times for different packet sizes for each end of the link. Suppose we are on host A and want to know the throughput between L1 and L2, two extremities of a point-to-point link. A ----( the Internet )--- L1 --- L2 If we know the rtt (roundtrip time) between A and L1, and the rtt between A and L2, we can deduce the rtt between L1 and L2. If we do that for two different packet sizes, we can compute the raw capacity (bps) of the link. Note that bing can also be used to have an idea of ethernet cards performance. ======================================================================== Thomas J Balfe tbalfe@tioga.com President http://www.tioga.com/ Tioga Communications, Inc 814-867-4770 ======================================================================== "Humanity has been compared...to a sleeper who handles matches in his sleep and wakes to find himself in flames." - H.G. Wells The World Set Free 1914 From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 05:26:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA23060 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 05:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inga.augusta.de (root@inga.augusta.de [193.175.23.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA23055 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 05:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rabbit by inga.augusta.de with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ukrNf-004du0C; Mon, 29 Jul 96 14:25 MET DST Received: by rabbit.augusta.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ukrGX-000A2tC; Mon, 29 Jul 96 14:17 MET DST Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: New Port: tkdesk 1.0a2 X-url: http://www.augusta.de/~shanee/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 14:17:40 +0200 From: Andreas Kohout Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, this is a graphical, highly configurable and powerful file manager for Unix and the X Window System. tkdesk-1.0a2-port.tgz is in ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/ PS: I have some problems to upload the ports-tarball to ftp.freebsd.org, ´Host is not responding to comands´. Is it allowed to mail the ports (< 5k) in this list or should I mail it to Jordan? Some ports are often uploaded because I think there was errors ... sorry. -- Greeting, Andy running FreeBSD-current --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 06:33:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA25089 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 06:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seagull.rtd.com (root@seagull.rtd.com [198.102.68.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA25084 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 06:33:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dgy@localhost) by seagull.rtd.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA27538 for freebsd-ports@freefall.cdrom.com; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 06:33:46 -0700 (MST) From: Don Yuniskis Message-Id: <199607291333.GAA27538@seagull.rtd.com> Subject: ecu diffs To: freebsd-ports@freefall.FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD ports) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 06:33:46 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings! The following diffs are agains ecu-3.34b on FreeBSD 2.1R. I realize 3.39 is out -- but I'm running 3.34b. Most of these changes don't appear to be reflected in 3.39, either. The patches are a bit sloppy for distribution in anything other than an FBSD port -- though they've already been submitted to the author... -don ----------8<---------------8<------------------8<------------- *** work/ecu/config.c Sun Apr 9 00:23:38 1995 --- work.new/ecu/config.c Fri Jul 26 01:49:07 1996 *************** *** 1050,1055 **** --- 1050,1056 ---- break; case S_FREEBSD: fputs("SYSTEM = FreeBSD\n", fpmake); + fputs("HDBLIBDIR = /etc/uucp\n", fpmake); break; } *************** *** 1587,1593 **** printf("\nWhat is the maximum number of screen columns (>= 80)? "); printf("[%d]\n: ", screen_columns); tgets(s128); ! if(s128[0] && (screen_lines = atoi(s128)) < 80) fputs("\7",stderr); else itmp = 1; --- 1588,1594 ---- printf("\nWhat is the maximum number of screen columns (>= 80)? "); printf("[%d]\n: ", screen_columns); tgets(s128); ! if(s128[0] && (screen_columns = atoi(s128)) < 80) fputs("\7",stderr); else itmp = 1; diff -r --context work/ecu/ecuDCE.c work.new/ecu/ecuDCE.c *** work/ecu/ecuDCE.c Thu Jan 12 13:19:44 1995 --- work.new/ecu/ecuDCE.c Fri Jul 26 02:29:24 1996 *************** *** 169,180 **** type = MI_INIT; else if (ulindex(typestr, "dial_") == 0) type = MI_DIAL; else if (!strcmpi(typestr, "autoanswer")) type = MI_AUTOANS; else if (!strcmpi(typestr, "ok_string")) type = MI_OKSTRING; - else if (!strcmpi(typestr, "connect_string")) - type = MI_CONNSTR; else { erc = eSyntaxError; --- 169,181 ---- type = MI_INIT; else if (ulindex(typestr, "dial_") == 0) type = MI_DIAL; + /* DGY 07/25/96 allow "connect_string_" to be conditioned by baud */ + else if (ulindex(typestr, "connect_string_") == 0) + type = MI_CONNSTR; else if (!strcmpi(typestr, "autoanswer")) type = MI_AUTOANS; else if (!strcmpi(typestr, "ok_string")) type = MI_OKSTRING; else { erc = eSyntaxError; *************** *** 187,192 **** --- 188,194 ---- else if (ulindex(typestr, "_default") > 0) { truth = !(((type == MI_INIT) && Lmodem_init[0]) || + ((type == MI_CONNSTR) && Lmodem_connstring[0]) || ((type == MI_DIAL) && Lmodem_dial[0])); } else *************** *** 207,214 **** if (erc = skip_colon(&sesd)) goto SHOW_ERROR; ! /* make sure init or dial string not empty or too long */ ! if ((erc = skip_cmd_break(&sesd)) && (type != MI_AUTOANS)) goto SHOW_ERROR; if ((sesd.cb - sesd.index) > (MI_MAX_LEN - 1)) --- 209,217 ---- if (erc = skip_colon(&sesd)) goto SHOW_ERROR; ! /* make sure init connect or dial string not empty or too long */ ! if ((erc = skip_cmd_break(&sesd)) && ! !((type == MI_AUTOANS) || (type == MI_OKSTRING))) goto SHOW_ERROR; if ((sesd.cb - sesd.index) > (MI_MAX_LEN - 1)) diff -r --context work/ecu/ecuphrase.c work.new/ecu/ecuphrase.c *** work/ecu/ecuphrase.c Wed May 4 01:39:00 1994 --- work.new/ecu/ecuphrase.c Fri Jul 26 04:52:56 1996 *************** *** 243,249 **** phrase_help() { ff(se, "^r == \\r ^n == \\n ^t == \\t ^^ == '^'\r\n"); ! ff(se, "^p#. pause # secs\r\n"); ! ff(se, "^a#. arg number # of %%# invocation\r\n"); } /* end of phrase_help */ /* vi: set tabstop=4 shiftwidth=4: */ --- 243,249 ---- phrase_help() { ff(se, "^r == \\r ^n == \\n ^t == \\t ^^ == '^'\r\n"); ! ff(se, "^p#. pause # seconds / 10\r\n"); ! ff(se, "^a#. argument # of invocation\r\n"); } /* end of phrase_help */ /* vi: set tabstop=4 shiftwidth=4: */ diff -r --context work/ecu/ecutty.c work.new/ecu/ecutty.c *** work/ecu/ecutty.c Tue May 9 15:35:27 1995 --- work.new/ecu/ecutty.c Sat Jul 27 03:08:44 1996 *************** *** 227,239 **** #endif /* M_SYSV */ #if defined(ISCSVR4) || defined(LINUX) || defined(ESIXSVR4) || defined(__FreeBSD__) ! ulong colors_initial = 0x00002528L; ! ulong colors_current = 0x00002528L; ! ulong colors_normal = 0x00002528L; /* white */ ! ulong colors_success = 0x00002028L; /* green */ ! ulong colors_alert = 0x00002128L; /* yellow */ ! ulong colors_error = 0x00001F28L; /* red */ ! ulong colors_notify = 0x00002428L; /* cyan */ #define COLORS_DEFINED #endif /* ISCSVR4 */ --- 227,240 ---- #endif /* M_SYSV */ #if defined(ISCSVR4) || defined(LINUX) || defined(ESIXSVR4) || defined(__FreeBSD__) ! ulong colors_initial = 0x00070700L; /* value unimportant */ ! ulong colors_current = 0x00070700L; /* value unimportant */ ! /* note that the contents of the "color" file can override these... */ ! ulong colors_normal = 0x00070700L; /* white on black */ ! ulong colors_success = 0x00020200L; /* green on black */ ! ulong colors_alert = 0x000E0E00L; /* yellow on black */ ! ulong colors_error = 0x00040400L; /* red on black */ ! ulong colors_notify = 0x00030300L; /* cyan on black */ #define COLORS_DEFINED #endif /* ISCSVR4 */ *************** *** 423,435 **** return; #ifdef __FreeBSD__ fgcolor = (clrs >> 8) & 0xff; - if (fgcolor >= 30) - fgcolor -= 30; bgcolor = clrs & 0xff; - if (bgcolor >= 40) - bgcolor -= 40; - ff(se, "\033[m"); /* reset all prev attrs */ if (fgcolor & 0x10) { fgcolor &= ~0x10; --- 424,432 ---- return; #ifdef __FreeBSD__ + ff(se, "\033[m"); /* reset all prev attrs */ fgcolor = (clrs >> 8) & 0xff; bgcolor = clrs & 0xff; if (fgcolor & 0x10) { fgcolor &= ~0x10; *************** *** 441,447 **** ff(se, "\033[5m"); /* set intense */ } ! ff(se, "\033[3%d;4%dm", fgcolor, bgcolor); #else #if defined(SVR4) || defined(LINUX) #if defined(ESIXSVR4) || defined(LINUX) --- 438,448 ---- ff(se, "\033[5m"); /* set intense */ } ! /* normal */ ! ff(se, "\033[=%ldF\033[=%ldG", (clrs >> 8) & 0xFF, clrs & 0xFF); ! ! /* reverse */ ! ff(se, "\033[=%ldH\033[=%ldI", (clrs >> 24) & 0xFF, (clrs >> 16) & 0xFF); #else #if defined(SVR4) || defined(LINUX) #if defined(ESIXSVR4) || defined(LINUX) *************** *** 646,651 **** --- 647,655 ---- ulong fgnd; ulong bgnd; + if (got_original_colors) + return; + colors_initial = colors_normal; /* scoterm can use color but ... */ if (ioctl(TTYIN, GIO_ATTR, &cur_attr) == -1) /* ... GIO_ATTR won't work */ return; *************** *** 657,662 **** --- 661,667 ---- write(1, "\033[7m", 4); /* select reverse */ #ifdef __FreeBSD__ (void) ioctl(TTYIN, GIO_ATTR, &cur_attr); + cur_attr >>= 8; #else cur_attr = (uint) ioctl(TTYIN, GIO_ATTR, 0); #endif *************** *** 670,675 **** --- 675,681 ---- write(1, "\033[m", 3); /* select normal */ #ifdef __FreeBSD__ (void) ioctl(TTYIN, GIO_ATTR, &cur_attr); + cur_attr >>= 8; #else cur_attr = (uint) ioctl(TTYIN, GIO_ATTR, 0); #endif *************** *** 740,747 **** } /* while records left to ready */ #if defined(M_SYSV) || defined(__FreeBSD__) ! if (ioctl(TTYIN, GIO_ATTR, 0) == -1) colors_initial = colors_normal; /* hack for scoterm */ #endif fclose(fp); --- 746,757 ---- } /* while records left to ready */ #if defined(M_SYSV) || defined(__FreeBSD__) ! /* DGY 07/25/96 ioctl will always fail on FreeBSD if argp is NULL */ ! { ! uint dummy; ! if (ioctl(TTYIN, GIO_ATTR, &dummy) == -1) colors_initial = colors_normal; /* hack for scoterm */ + } #endif fclose(fp); diff -r --context work/ecu/nap.c work.new/ecu/nap.c *** work/ecu/nap.c Tue Apr 11 13:03:21 1995 --- work.new/ecu/nap.c Fri Jul 26 01:49:09 1996 *************** *** 98,104 **** (t)->time--; \ (t)->millitm += 1000; \ } \ ! } else /* ; supplied by invoker */ #else /* old tvsub */ #define tbsub(t, t0) \ if(1) { \ --- 98,104 ---- (t)->time--; \ (t)->millitm += 1000; \ } \ ! } /* ; supplied by invoker */ #else /* old tvsub */ #define tbsub(t, t0) \ if(1) { \ From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 09:32:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA08685 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 09:32:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.eu.org [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08672 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 09:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.eu.org [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA18660; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 18:32:10 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id SAA13523; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 18:31:37 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.Alpha.5/keltia-uucp-2.8) id GAA12338; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 06:41:45 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199607290441.GAA12338@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 06:41:45 +0200 From: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) To: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Cc: FreeBSD-Ports@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Ports) Subject: Re: place for new ports In-Reply-To: ; from Chuck Robey on Jul 28, 1996 18:33:56 -0400 References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.38 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Chuck Robey: > I'd want it to be able to take the suggested port and store it, with the > email address of the contributor. I'd want the ability to kill that port > later, either when it is committed, or when the contributor notices that > 'omigawd' bug he left in, so it could be squashed before a developer has > to find it. I'd want it to be separated from any non-port stuff, because How about (ab)using GNATS to do this with a new category for example ? -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #16: Sun Jul 21 13:26:53 MET DST 1996 From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 10:52:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA12126 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 10:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (root@haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12104 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 10:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from woodlawn.uchicago.edu (root@woodlawn.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.9]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA09541; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 12:51:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from woodlawn.uchicago.edu (csdayton@localhost.uchicago.edu [127.0.0.1]) by woodlawn.uchicago.edu (8.7.1/8.7.2) with ESMTP id MAA13709; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 12:53:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199607291753.MAA13709@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> In-reply-to: "David E. O'Brien"'s message of Sun, 28 Jul 1996 16:20:40 -0700 (PDT) To: "David E. O'Brien" cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (FreeBSD ports list) Subject: Re: rzsz Reply-To: csdayton@midway.uchicago.edu References: <199607282320.QAA05999@relay.nuxi.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 12:53:16 CDT From: Soren Dayton Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Just tried to build the rzsz port (I just ftp'ed it). > It gets a "checksum mismatch for rzsz.zip". > Looking on the master ftp site, it looks like the file changed on the > 26th. Would someone do a port of the package zmtx-zmrx. It is an implementation of zmodem that is free from the licensing brain damage that the rzsz package has. It can be found in all your favorite comp.unix.sources archives. It should be a real no brainer to port and it works fine on other platforms, but I simply have no use for it on freebsd right now, so I feel like I should not do the port Soren From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 11:54:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA15649 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 11:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bdd.net (bdd.net [207.61.119.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA15638 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 11:54:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (james@localhost) by bdd.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA26098 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 14:54:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 14:54:15 -0400 (EDT) From: James FitzGibbon To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Port Update - Afterstep 0.98b18 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've updated the afterstep port to v0.98b18. It's available as ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/afterstep-0.98b18.tar.gz Please commit at your convenience. -- j. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | James FitzGibbon james@nexis.net | | Integrator, The Nexis Group Voice/Fax : 416 410-0100 | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 12:23:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA16983 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 12:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA16978 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 12:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id MAA16319 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 12:23:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "David E. O'Brien" Message-Id: <199607291923.MAA16319@relay.nuxi.com> Subject: Re: rzsz To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (FreeBSD ports list) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 12:23:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199607291753.MAA13709@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> from Soren Dayton at "Jul 29, 96 12:53:16 pm" X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Would someone do a port of the package zmtx-zmrx. It is an > implementation of zmodem that is free from the licensing brain damage > that the rzsz package has. I'd *love* to. Zmodem is a key package for me. -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu) From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 12:44:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA17901 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 12:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (root@haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA17896 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 12:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from woodlawn.uchicago.edu (root@woodlawn.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.9]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16188; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 14:43:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from woodlawn.uchicago.edu (csdayton@localhost.uchicago.edu [127.0.0.1]) by woodlawn.uchicago.edu (8.7.1/8.7.2) with ESMTP id OAA24000; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 14:45:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199607291945.OAA24000@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> In-reply-to: "David E. O'Brien"'s message of Mon, 29 Jul 1996 12:23:07 -0700 (PDT) To: "David E. O'Brien" cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (FreeBSD ports list) Subject: Re: rzsz Reply-To: csdayton@midway.uchicago.edu References: <199607291923.MAA16319@relay.nuxi.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 14:45:57 CDT From: Soren Dayton Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Would someone do a port of the package zmtx-zmrx. It is an > > implementation of zmodem that is free from the licensing brain damage > > that the rzsz package has. > > I'd *love* to. Zmodem is a key package for me. well: ftp://ftp.lth.se/pub/usenet/comp.sources.unix/volume28/zm/part01.gz Soren From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 12:50:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA18197 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 12:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA18190 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 12:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA24569; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 13:49:35 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607291949.NAA24569@rover.village.org> To: csdayton@midway.uchicago.edu Subject: Re: rzsz Cc: "David E. O'Brien" , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (FreeBSD ports list) In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 29 Jul 1996 12:53:16 CDT Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 13:49:35 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk : Would someone do a port of the package zmtx-zmrx. It is an : implementation of zmodem that is free from the licensing brain damage : that the rzsz package has. It can be found in all your favorite : comp.unix.sources archives. I was wondering if you might have a better pointer. All I could find was zm in volume 28. Mail to the address in that file bounces. Warner From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 13:29:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA20313 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 13:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (root@haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA20290 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 13:28:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from woodlawn.uchicago.edu (root@woodlawn.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.9]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA18836; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 15:27:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from woodlawn.uchicago.edu (csdayton@localhost.uchicago.edu [127.0.0.1]) by woodlawn.uchicago.edu (8.7.1/8.7.2) with ESMTP id PAA08536; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 15:29:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199607292029.PAA08536@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> In-reply-to: Warner Losh's message of Mon, 29 Jul 1996 13:49:35 -0600 To: Warner Losh cc: "David E. O'Brien" , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (FreeBSD ports list) Subject: Re: rzsz Reply-To: csdayton@midway.uchicago.edu References: <199607291949.NAA24569@rover.village.org> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 15:29:58 CDT From: Soren Dayton Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > : Would someone do a port of the package zmtx-zmrx. It is an > : implementation of zmodem that is free from the licensing brain damage > : that the rzsz package has. It can be found in all your favorite > : comp.unix.sources archives. > > I was wondering if you might have a better pointer. All I could find > was zm in volume 28. Mail to the address in that file bounces. I have a copy of version 1.02 lying around here, but that ftp site no longer exists. I put a url in another post that points to a different version. and I could come up with diffs to the 1.02 version (which came out... 3 days later?) I asked the other author and he said that there was no real distribution site of that any more. Soren From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 13:29:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA20353 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 13:29:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA20333 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 13:29:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id NAA16807 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 13:29:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "David E. O'Brien" Message-Id: <199607292029.NAA16807@relay.nuxi.com> Subject: Re: rzsz To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (FreeBSD ports list) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 13:29:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199607291949.NAA24569@rover.village.org> from Warner Losh at "Jul 29, 96 01:49:35 pm" X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I was wondering if you might have a better pointer. All I could find > was zm in volume 28. Mail to the address in that file bounces. Working on the port now. Best source so far is: ftp://ftp.inria.fr/network/modem/zmtx-zmrx.shar.gz -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu) From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 13:33:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA20605 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 13:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA20589 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 13:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id NAA16846; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 13:33:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "David E. O'Brien" Message-Id: <199607292033.NAA16846@relay.nuxi.com> Subject: Re: rzsz To: csdayton@midway.uchicago.edu Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 13:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (FreeBSD ports list) In-Reply-To: <199607292029.PAA08536@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> from Soren Dayton at "Jul 29, 96 03:29:58 pm" X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have a copy of version 1.02 lying around here, but that ftp site no > longer exists. I put a url in another post that points to a different version. The ``release.notes'' from ftp://ftp.inria.fr/network/modem/zmtx-zmrx.shar.gz say "1.02 release notes (18/07/94)" in them. Is there a newer version you are aware of (or patches beyond 1.02)? -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu) From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 13:46:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA21405 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 13:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po2.glue.umd.edu (po2.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA21380 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 13:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carrier.eng.umd.edu (carrier.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.188]) by po2.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA05835; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:46:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by carrier.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA00803; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:46:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:46:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@carrier.eng.umd.edu To: Ollivier Robert cc: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: place for new ports In-Reply-To: <199607290441.GAA12338@keltia.freenix.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Jul 1996, Ollivier Robert wrote: > According to Chuck Robey: > > I'd want it to be able to take the suggested port and store it, with the > > email address of the contributor. I'd want the ability to kill that port > > later, either when it is committed, or when the contributor notices that > > 'omigawd' bug he left in, so it could be squashed before a developer has > > to find it. I'd want it to be separated from any non-port stuff, because > > How about (ab)using GNATS to do this with a new category for example ? Yes, that's another good idea, maybe better than mine so far. Would let me know where they came from, and using GNATS might cut down the noise factor some even. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 15:27:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA27165 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 15:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA27158 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 15:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.5/8.6.9) id PAA00979; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 15:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 15:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607292227.PAA00979@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu CC: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr, FreeBSD-Ports@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: (message from Chuck Robey on Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:46:06 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: place for new ports From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * Yes, that's another good idea, maybe better than mine so far. Would let * me know where they came from, and using GNATS might cut down the noise * factor some even. We even have a category of our own "ports", shouldn't that coupled with "change-request" be enough? Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 15:39:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA27638 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 15:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA27632 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 15:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carrier.eng.umd.edu (carrier.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.188]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA11897; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 18:39:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by carrier.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA00890; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 18:38:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 18:38:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@carrier.eng.umd.edu To: Satoshi Asami cc: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr, FreeBSD-Ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: place for new ports In-Reply-To: <199607292227.PAA00979@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Jul 1996, Satoshi Asami wrote: > * Yes, that's another good idea, maybe better than mine so far. Would let > * me know where they came from, and using GNATS might cut down the noise > * factor some even. > > We even have a category of our own "ports", shouldn't that coupled > with "change-request" be enough? OK. I've never used gnats myself, probably should. We need to have something in the FreeBSD www site, that explicitly gives those instructions, for when you introduce a new port. I think it's a great idea to do this, so I can just take a look at the gnats list for ports that need to be done. I've tried just saving the mails of new ports, and it's so busy, it's crazy. I'd never keep it straight. > > Satoshi > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 15:41:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA27736 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 15:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inga.augusta.de (root@inga.augusta.de [193.175.23.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA27730 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 15:40:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rabbit by inga.augusta.de with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ul0xg-004e1LC; Tue, 30 Jul 96 00:38 MET DST Received: by rabbit.augusta.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ul0lt-000ANbC; Tue, 30 Jul 96 00:26 MET DST Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: ports@freebsd.org, shanee Subject: Re: New port: asedit, gimp, logsurfer, xed In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 28 Jul 1996 18:06:30 EDT." <13722.838591590@orion.webspan.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 00:26:41 +0200 From: Andreas Kohout Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, > Umm? I just checked and I couldn't see them (at least not logsurfer) sorry, first it is ftp.freebsd.org, second I am not able to connect in ... But I hope I found someone to send the ports as mail. I talk to Chuck Robey, maybe he may help me ... -- Gruß, Andy -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Der Mensch hat die Atombombe erfunden, eine Maus würde niemals eine Mausefalle bauen! shanee@rabbit.augusta.de Zirbelnußtown __________________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 16:03:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA28631 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po2.glue.umd.edu (po2.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA28625 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carrier.eng.umd.edu (carrier.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.188]) by po2.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA07109; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 19:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by carrier.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA00909; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 19:03:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 19:03:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@carrier.eng.umd.edu To: Andreas Kohout cc: ports@freebsd.org, shanee@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: New port: asedit, gimp, logsurfer, xed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Andreas Kohout wrote: > > Hello, > > > Umm? I just checked and I couldn't see them (at least not logsurfer) > > sorry, first it is ftp.freebsd.org, second I am not able to connect in ... > > But I hope I found someone to send the ports as mail. I talk to Chuck > Robey, maybe he may help me ... I did xed for you, but I don't have Motif (I like fvwm a lot, I don't see buying Motif just for the lib, at least not yet) so I can't do asedit or gimp, they need motif. I'll do logsurfer, if no one beats me to it. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 16:27:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA29731 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA29724 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.5/8.6.9) id QAA01198; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607292327.QAA01198@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu CC: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr, FreeBSD-Ports@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: (message from Chuck Robey on Mon, 29 Jul 1996 18:38:59 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: place for new ports From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * OK. I've never used gnats myself, probably should. We need to have * something in the FreeBSD www site, that explicitly gives those * instructions, for when you introduce a new port. I think it's a great * idea to do this, so I can just take a look at the gnats list for ports * that need to be done. I've tried just saving the mails of new ports, and * it's so busy, it's crazy. I'd never keep it straight. Ok, I'll add it to the "porting applications" section of the handbook. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 16:48:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA00578 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA00573 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.5/8.6.9) id QAA01309; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:48:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:48:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607292348.QAA01309@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu CC: shanee@rabbit.augusta.de, ports@freebsd.org, shanee@freefall.freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Chuck Robey on Mon, 29 Jul 1996 19:03:31 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: New port: asedit, gimp, logsurfer, xed From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * I did xed for you, but I don't have Motif (I like fvwm a lot, I don't see * buying Motif just for the lib, at least not yet) so I can't do asedit or * gimp, they need motif. I'll do logsurfer, if no one beats me to it. Chuck, we have Motif on thud now. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 19:41:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA09293 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 19:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA09277 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 19:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA00802 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 20:40:26 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607300240.UAA00802@rover.village.org> To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: lmbench port busted. Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 20:40:26 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk make fetch on lmbench reports: >> lmbench-1.0.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system. >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://forte.mathematik.uni-bremen.de/pub/unix/benchmarks/. Couldn't cd to pub/unix/benchmarks: No such file or directory There is no directory unix in the pub directory on this machine, as confirmed by later ftp to this machine. http://reality.sgi.com/lm/lmbench/lmbench.tar.Z seems to be the official home of this file, however. Wouldn't even have noticed, but ftp.freebsd.org isn't reachable from here right now for reasons unknown. Warner From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 19:59:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA10338 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 19:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA10328 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 19:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA00960 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 20:59:30 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607300259.UAA00960@rover.village.org> To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: A humble request Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 20:59:30 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm stuck behind a firewall. I have to do passive FTP connections. There are some FTP servers that are refusing to do passive FTP connections. It would be nice if none of the ports used any of these FTP servers. ftp.sunet.se is one of them. It can be found in the following ports: benchmarks/bonnie editors/emacs lang/perl5 print/psutils www/cached www/harvest www/netscape2 x11/auis x11/xgrab x11/xkeycaps Warner From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 21:33:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA16650 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 21:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA16643 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 21:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.5/8.6.9) id VAA04465; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 21:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 21:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607300432.VAA04465@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: obrien@Nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu CC: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607290831.BAA12030@relay.nuxi.com> (obrien@Nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu) Subject: Re: "Version required:" Makefile comment From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * Just what is the * "# Version required: 2.2 [things like "1.5alpha" are fine here too]" * line in a port's Makefile for? Is the version of FBSD required or the * port? Is it actually checked anywhere? It's the version of the port, as in "19.31" of emacs-19.31. It's just a comment so it isn't checked anywhere. The string is usually the same as the one in DISTNAME or PKGNAME, but sometimes is more descriptive due to the limitation of what you can put in those variables (as they are part of filenames). Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 23:03:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA22263 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 23:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.tioga.com (root@falcon.tioga.com [205.146.65.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA22258 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 23:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tbalfe@localhost) by falcon.tioga.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id CAA05436; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 02:03:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 02:03:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas J Balfe To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org cc: ftp-bugs@wcarchive.cdrom.com Subject: mfsm-1.3-static.tgz Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can one of the powers that be remove that zero length file, my xfer got lagged and ncftp-2.3.0 gave up on the connection. I'll upload fresh ones once that one is gone. ======================================================================== Thomas J Balfe tbalfe@tioga.com President http://www.tioga.com/ Tioga Communications, Inc 814-867-4770 ======================================================================== "Humanity has been compared...to a sleeper who handles matches in his sleep and wakes to find himself in flames." - H.G. Wells The World Set Free 1914 From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 23:14:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA22713 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 23:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA22706 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 23:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.5/8.6.9) id XAA01111; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 23:13:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 23:13:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607300613.XAA01111@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: tbalfe@falcon.tioga.com CC: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, ftp-bugs@wcarchive.cdrom.com In-reply-to: (message from Thomas J Balfe on Tue, 30 Jul 1996 02:03:01 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: mfsm-1.3-static.tgz From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * Can one of the powers that be remove that zero length file, my xfer got * lagged and ncftp-2.3.0 gave up on the connection. I'll upload fresh ones * once that one is gone. I deleted that file, but you don't need to upload packages. We will build them ourselves (we even have Motif for this), so please only upload ports. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 23:21:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA23104 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 23:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA23043 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 23:21:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id IAA21004 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 08:20:50 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id IAA11848 for FreeBSD-Ports@freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 08:20:50 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id IAA09960 for FreeBSD-Ports@freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 08:03:57 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199607300603.IAA09960@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: place for new ports To: FreeBSD-Ports@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 08:03:57 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199607292227.PAA00979@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> from Satoshi Asami at "Jul 29, 96 03:27:45 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Satoshi Asami wrote: > * Yes, that's another good idea, maybe better than mine so far. Would let > * me know where they came from, and using GNATS might cut down the noise > * factor some even. > > We even have a category of our own "ports", shouldn't that coupled > with "change-request" be enough? Btw., i noticed that several submissions came with explicitly mentioning ``The package is...''. Perhaps the handbook should make it clear that submitting packages is not necessary since they are being rebuilt anyway (and FreeBSD.org now even has got a copy of Motif to rebuild these packages ;-). -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jul 29 23:53:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA25436 for ports-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 23:53:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA25420 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 23:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA16485; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 09:58:10 +0300 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 09:58:10 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: FreeBSD ports Subject: Port of TkCVS & Tkdiff Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HI! This is my first "public" port. I know the topic of changing the way of submitting ports is up presently the old ways haven't been outlawed yet. So here it is - tkcvs is tcl/tk frontend to cvs and tkdiff is tcl/tk frontend to diff Sander PS. The maintainer mail address in the Makefile is correct. ------------- Cut here ------------------------------------------------ begin 664 tkcvs-port.tgz M'XL(`````````^U:;7/:2!+VUYE?,>7X0Z@+0@(!%^?86QN(CSUCNQ!)]L-6 MI00:0(N0.$G8\:;RWZ]G1B\#%K!Q&5*W-UV)Z>GN>9%FIN?1=,?S\7U4.3DH M$5-O-NODA##2-WZ3`FD8S6:M;M9J54(,O59MGI#Z88;A5\S_Q7S3K,OV'63#7_QR!Y_OOVG#).&[GQPEY& M+]6'H>N-AKE]_NO5)IO_1A-62.$Z"\U@%WT?S[_FNN/O95#R:FF MY0L`A*<87_:&_8L[JX5LQ]&^C!9D/*/C>C2FG/T-(^2X MDPDON(ME$,:<]8(I[XOQ?A#341"(MD,Z"6DTRRJ'=!'<"SN^6HU&SM>J,O]Y M84?SK%X<4IK8KI:.+8:#L>UYYQB[/LP[X]!B[K@A*2_)V>OK3F]0PBC1D?(" M9)>]F_YMIULBY4"4;C_=0&$J"E>#NQ+G^)LJ96W\Z&G]TU2X_V'Z7[*//?O? 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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 00:04:37 -0700 Message-ID: <894.838710277@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > HI! > > This is my first "public" port. I know the topic of changing the way of > submitting ports is up presently the old ways haven't been outlawed yet. > > So here it is - tkcvs is tcl/tk frontend to cvs and tkdiff is tcl/tk > frontend to diff 1. Your MASTER_SITES value is wrong. Try: MASTER_SITES= ftp://ftp.neosoft.com/pub/tcl/alcatel/code/ 2. Your post-extract rule is a bit noisy. I'd @ those cp commands. 3. It's too bad this is against tk4.0 and not 4.1. :-( Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 00:47:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA27557 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 00:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA27551 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 00:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA00253; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 10:49:21 +0300 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 10:49:21 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: FreeBSD ports Subject: Re: Port of TkCVS & Tkdiff In-Reply-To: <894.838710277@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > HI! > > > > This is my first "public" port. I know the topic of changing the way of > > submitting ports is up presently the old ways haven't been outlawed yet. > > > > So here it is - tkcvs is tcl/tk frontend to cvs and tkdiff is tcl/tk > > frontend to diff > > 1. Your MASTER_SITES value is wrong. Try: > > MASTER_SITES= ftp://ftp.neosoft.com/pub/tcl/alcatel/code/ > Right. Sorry. I looked at the neosoft site again and found that /pub/tcl is a link to /langauages/tcl. Is it ok to make it ftp://ftp.neosoft.com/languages/tcl/alcatel/code ? > 2. Your post-extract rule is a bit noisy. I'd @ those cp commands. OOPS! Talk about experimenting with CVS and exporting a version with a wrong date... > > 3. It's too bad this is against tk4.0 and not 4.1. :-( I'll try to see if it works with tk4.1 and repost. Sander > Jordan > From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 00:49:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA27681 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 00:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA27676 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 00:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA12513; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 00:49:04 -0700 (PDT) To: Narvi cc: FreeBSD ports Subject: Re: Port of TkCVS & Tkdiff In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jul 1996 10:49:21 +0300." Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 00:49:03 -0700 Message-ID: <12511.838712943@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > is a link to /langauages/tcl. Is it ok to make it > > ftp://ftp.neosoft.com/languages/tcl/alcatel/code ? Whatever actually results in the tarball being fetched is fine by me. :-) > I'll try to see if it works with tk4.1 and repost. Cool. Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 01:27:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA29235 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 01:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA29222 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 01:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00453; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 11:30:55 +0300 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 11:30:55 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: FreeBSD ports Subject: New, corrected port of tkcvs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HI! This is the corrected port of tkcvs and tkdiff, also updated to tk4.1 Sander ------------------- Cut here ------------------------------------------- begin 664 tkcvs-port.tgz M'XL(`````````^U:;7/:2!+.5\VOF$K\(=0%O8`$&^?87=L0'WO&=B&2[(>M M2@EI`!U"XB1A)YO*?[^>&;T,6,#&:TC=[G0EIJ>[YT6:F9Y'TYW.W;M$>W90 MPJ;>;EOX&<9&V]+I+U#^FQ5PRVBWFVU=!T-LZ%:K\0Q;AQT6IU62.C'&ST(G MOO-WV-W/"`F.,:#C4LKF?^('Y'"KX-OFWP`SH]72Y?P?@\3Y'SAS0CEU[*<+ M9YD\51^&KK=:YO;YMQIM.O^M-JR2I@&\8>D6['_]J0:PB_[F\Z_ZH1NL/(*? 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The filename is actually mfsm-1.3.tar.gz2 because I kept getting zero length file from ncftp-2.3 just hanging up. ======================================================================== Thomas J Balfe tbalfe@tioga.com President http://www.tioga.com/ Tioga Communications, Inc 814-867-4770 ======================================================================== "Humanity has been compared...to a sleeper who handles matches in his sleep and wakes to find himself in flames." - H.G. Wells The World Set Free 1914 From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 02:55:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA03772 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 02:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA03760 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 02:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.5/8.6.9) id CAA04091; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 02:54:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 02:54:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607300954.CAA04091@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: FreeBSD-Ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607300603.IAA09960@uriah.heep.sax.de> (message from J Wunsch on Tue, 30 Jul 1996 08:03:57 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: place for new ports From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * Btw., i noticed that several submissions came with explicitly * mentioning ``The package is...''. Perhaps the handbook should make it * clear that submitting packages is not necessary since they are being * rebuilt anyway (and FreeBSD.org now even has got a copy of Motif to * rebuild these packages ;-). Ok, I changed porting.sgml to incorporate this and other suggestions. Please check it out, it's available in FreeBSD-current and www.freebsd.org. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 09:41:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA16740 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 09:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA16717 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 09:41:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA06987 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 10:41:17 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607301641.KAA06987@rover.village.org> To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Sendmail vs mh Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 10:41:16 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sendmail recommends the following patch be applied to mh. It isn't in the current patches directory for mail/mh. Would it be possible for someone to take a look at the patch and commit it? Some of you may recognize the patch as /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/contrib/mh.patch. It should be patches/patch-ae unless I miss my guess. Thanks a bunch... Warner Message-Id: <199309031900.OAA19417@ignatz.acs.depaul.edu> To: bug-mh@ics.uci.edu cc: mh-users@ics.uci.edu, eric@cs.berkeley.edu Subject: MH-6.8.1/Sendmail 8.X (MH patch) updated Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1993 14:00:46 -0500 From: Dave Nelson This patch will fix the "X-auth..." warnings from the newer Sendmails (8.X) while continuing to work with the old sendmails. I think the following patch will make everyone happy. 1) Anybody with MH-6.8.1 can install this. It doesn't matter what version of sendmail you're running. It doesn't matter if you're not running sendmail (but it won't fix anything for you). 2) No configuration file hacks. If the -client switch is absent (the default), the new sendmails will get an EHLO using what LocalName() returns as the hostname. On my systems, this returns the FQDN. If the EHLO fails with a result between 500 and 599 and the -client switch is not set, we give up on sending EHLO/HELO and just go deliver the mail. 3) No new configuration options. 4) Retains the undocumented -client switch. One warning: it is possible using the -client switch to cause the old sendmails to return "I refuse to talk to myself". You could do this under the old code as well. This will happen if you claim to be the same system as the sendmail you're sending to is running on. That's pointless, but possible. If you do this, just like under the old code, you will get an error. 5) If you're running a site with both old and new sendmails, you only have to build MH once. The code's the same; works with them both. If you decide to install this, make sure that you look the patch over and that you agree with what it is doing. It works for me, but I can't test it on every possible combination. Make sure that it works before you really install it for your users, if any. No promises. To install this, save this to a file in the mts/sendmail directory. Feed it to patch. Patch will ignore the non-patch stuff. You should have "mts sendmail/smtp" in your configuration file. This works with old and new sendmails. Using "mts sendmail" will cause the new sendmails to print an "X-auth..." warning about who owns the process piping the mail message. I don't know of anyway of getting rid of these. mh-config (if necessary), make, make inst-all. I hope this helps people. /dcn Dave Nelson Academic Computer Services DePaul University, Chicago *** smail.c Fri Sep 3 11:58:05 1993 --- smail.c Fri Sep 3 11:57:27 1993 *************** *** 239,261 **** return RP_RPLY; } ! if (client && *client) { ! doingEHLO = 1; ! result = smtalk (SM_HELO, "EHLO %s", client); ! doingEHLO = 0; ! if (500 <= result && result <= 599) result = smtalk (SM_HELO, "HELO %s", client); ! ! switch (result) { case 250: ! break; default: (void) sm_end (NOTOK); return RP_RPLY; } } #ifndef ZMAILER if (onex) --- 239,276 ---- return RP_RPLY; } ! doingEHLO = 1; ! result = smtalk (SM_HELO, "EHLO %s", ! (client && *client) ? client : LocalName()); ! doingEHLO = 0; ! ! switch (result) ! { ! case 250: ! break; ! default: ! if (!(500 <= result && result <= 599)) ! { ! (void) sm_end (NOTOK); ! return RP_RPLY; ! } ! ! if (client && *client) ! { result = smtalk (SM_HELO, "HELO %s", client); ! switch (result) ! { case 250: ! break; default: (void) sm_end (NOTOK); return RP_RPLY; + } } } + #ifndef ZMAILER if (onex) *************** *** 357,380 **** return RP_RPLY; } ! if (client && *client) { ! doingEHLO = 1; ! result = smtalk (SM_HELO, "EHLO %s", client); ! doingEHLO = 0; ! if (500 <= result && result <= 599) result = smtalk (SM_HELO, "HELO %s", client); ! ! switch (result) { ! case 250: break; ! default: (void) sm_end (NOTOK); return RP_RPLY; } } ! send_options: ; if (watch && EHLOset ("XVRB")) (void) smtalk (SM_HELO, "VERB on"); --- 372,409 ---- return RP_RPLY; } ! doingEHLO = 1; ! result = smtalk (SM_HELO, "EHLO %s", ! (client && *client) ? client : LocalName()); ! doingEHLO = 0; ! ! switch (result) ! { ! case 250: ! break; ! ! default: ! if (!(500 <= result && result <= 599)) ! { ! (void) sm_end (NOTOK); ! return RP_RPLY; ! } ! if (client && *client) ! { result = smtalk (SM_HELO, "HELO %s", client); ! switch (result) ! { ! case 250: break; ! default: (void) sm_end (NOTOK); return RP_RPLY; + } } } ! send_options: ; if (watch && EHLOset ("XVRB")) (void) smtalk (SM_HELO, "VERB on"); From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 09:57:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA18079 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 09:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (slip139-92-42-155.ut.nl.ibm.net [139.92.42.155]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18069; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 09:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhs@localhost) by vector.jhs.no_domain (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA13836; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 18:40:08 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 18:40:08 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199607301640.SAA13836@vector.jhs.no_domain> To: andreas@klemm.gtn.com cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: ports/print/ghostscript4 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany Phone: +49.89.268616 Fax: +49.89.2608126 Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Mailer: EXMH 1.6.7, PGP available Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Andreas, cc ports, Bug report for current ports/print/ghostscript4: Fonts are installed in /usr/local/share/ghostscript/fonts -rw------- Thus if you install 'em you can get 'em, but if you invoke ghostview from a web browser, the font access fails. Makefile has: GS_FONTS_STD= ghostscript-fonts-std-4.01.tar.gz pre-install: (cd ${PREFIX}/share/ghostscript ; \ tar -xzf ${DISTDIR}/${GS_FONTS_STD}) I only have ghostscript-fonts-std-4.0.tar.gz & its -rw------- in there, I'll fetch 4.0.1 next, but its big ... PS WIBNI: ideally for those of us with slow net access, ports/ stuff should use for instance 4.0 & then 4.0 + 4.0-4.1.diff, to reduce upgrade fetch traffic, but I don't know in the specific case of ghostscript if a diff was available (after all I'm not maintainer :-) However if ports maintainers could use diffs where available, rather than pointing at new mega dists, it could help, (no complaint, just a WIBNI (Wouldn't It Be Nice If ...) :-) Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 10:21:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA19958 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 10:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (root@haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA19951 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 10:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from woodlawn.uchicago.edu (root@woodlawn.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.9]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25051; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 12:20:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from woodlawn.uchicago.edu (csdayton@localhost.uchicago.edu [127.0.0.1]) by woodlawn.uchicago.edu (8.7.1/8.7.2) with ESMTP id MAA11378; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 12:22:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199607301722.MAA11378@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> In-reply-to: Warner Losh's message of Tue, 30 Jul 1996 10:41:16 -0600 To: Warner Losh cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail vs mh Reply-To: csdayton@midway.uchicago.edu References: <199607301641.KAA06987@rover.village.org> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 12:22:41 CDT From: Soren Dayton Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Warner said: > Sendmail recommends the following patch be applied to mh. It isn't in > the current patches directory for mail/mh. Would it be possible for > someone to take a look at the patch and commit it? Some of you may > recognize the patch as /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/contrib/mh.patch. > It should be patches/patch-ae unless I miss my guess. It is not necessary when any of the following are true: MH is correctly configured! MH is 6.8.4 or later (which the port is) Soren From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 10:27:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA20522 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 10:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20510 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 10:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (annexr3-4.slip.Uni-Koeln.DE) by FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE with SMTP id AA26044 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 30 Jul 1996 19:26:34 +0200 Received: (from se@localhost) by x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id TAA22963; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 19:26:31 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 19:26:31 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199607301726.TAA22963@x14.mi.uni-koeln.de> From: Stefan Esser To: andreas@klemm.gtn.com Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 In-Reply-To: <199607301640.SAA13836@vector.jhs.no_domain> References: <199607301640.SAA13836@vector.jhs.no_domain> Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Julian H. Stacey writes: > PS WIBNI: ideally for those of us with slow net access, > ports/ stuff should use for instance 4.0 & then 4.0 + 4.0-4.1.diff, > to reduce upgrade fetch traffic, Well, and even better for those with slow net access might be, if the font TAR file names would not change with each minor release. The names I'd prefer to see used in the port are: ghostscript-fonts-other-3.0.tar.gz ghostscript-fonts-std-4.0.tar.gz One of the font TAR files has last been changed nearly two years ago, the other one has ben valid for all the gs-3 releases, and was replaced for gs-4, but applies to 4.00 and 4.01. See the following directory listing from the Aladdin FTP server: /ftp.cs.wisc.edu:/ghost/aladdin: total 39470 drwxr-xr-x 4 ghost 2461 6144 Jul 30 09:08 . drwxrwxr-x 8 ghost 2461 4096 Jun 27 06:06 .. -r--r--r-- 1 ghost 2461 2202195 Jul 12 00:14 ghostscript-4.01.tar.gz -r--r--r-- 1 ghost 2461 11817 Jul 12 00:14 ghostscript-4.01gnu.tar.gz -r--r--r-- 1 ghost 2461 731910 Aug 2 1994 ghostscript-fonts-other-3.0.tar.gz lrwxr-xr-x 1 ghost 2461 34 Oct 1 1994 ghostscript-fonts-other-3.01.tar.gz -> ghostscript-fonts-other-3.0.tar.gz lrwxr-xr-x 1 ghost 2461 34 Oct 1 1994 ghostscript-fonts-other-3.12.tar.gz -> ghostscript-fonts-other-3.0.tar.gz lrwxr-xr-x 1 ghost 2461 34 Apr 14 1995 ghostscript-fonts-other-3.33.tar.gz -> ghostscript-fonts-other-3.0.tar.gz lrwxr-xr-x 1 ghost 2461 34 Sep 28 1995 ghostscript-fonts-other-3.51.tar.gz -> ghostscript-fonts-other-3.0.tar.gz lrwxr-xr-x 1 ghost 2461 34 Jan 11 1996 ghostscript-fonts-other-3.53.tar.gz -> ghostscript-fonts-other-3.0.tar.gz lrwxr-xr-x 1 ghost 2461 34 Jun 28 13:10 ghostscript-fonts-other-4.0.tar.gz -> ghostscript-fonts-other-3.0.tar.gz lrwxr-xr-x 1 ghost 2461 34 Jul 12 03:34 ghostscript-fonts-other-4.01.tar.gz -> ghostscript-fonts-other-4.0.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 ghost 2461 1350870 Aug 2 1994 ghostscript-fonts-std-3.0.tar.gz lrwxr-xr-x 1 ghost 2461 32 Oct 1 1994 ghostscript-fonts-std-3.01.tar.gz -> ghostscript-fonts-std-3.0.tar.gz lrwxr-xr-x 1 ghost 2461 32 Oct 1 1994 ghostscript-fonts-std-3.12.tar.gz -> ghostscript-fonts-std-3.0.tar.gz lrwxr-xr-x 1 ghost 2461 32 Apr 14 1995 ghostscript-fonts-std-3.33.tar.gz -> ghostscript-fonts-std-3.0.tar.gz lrwxr-xr-x 1 ghost 2461 32 Sep 28 1995 ghostscript-fonts-std-3.51.tar.gz -> ghostscript-fonts-std-3.0.tar.gz lrwxr-xr-x 1 ghost 2461 32 Jan 11 1996 ghostscript-fonts-std-3.53.tar.gz -> ghostscript-fonts-std-3.0.tar.gz -r--r--r-- 1 ghost 2461 1442181 Jun 28 18:51 ghostscript-fonts-std-4.0.tar.gz lrwxr-xr-x 1 ghost 2461 32 Jul 12 03:34 ghostscript-fonts-std-4.01.tar.gz -> ghostscript-fonts-std-4.0.tar.gz Regards, STefan From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 10:29:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA20635 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 10:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20614 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 10:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA07209; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 11:28:06 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607301728.LAA07209@rover.village.org> To: csdayton@midway.uchicago.edu Subject: Re: Sendmail vs mh Cc: ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 30 Jul 1996 12:22:41 CDT Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 11:28:06 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk : It is not necessary when any of the following are true: : : MH is correctly configured! : MH is 6.8.4 or later (which the port is) "Oh. That's different. Never mind." From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 10:49:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA21983 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 10:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21972 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 10:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA04035; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 20:52:32 +0300 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 20:52:32 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: Stefan Esser cc: andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 In-Reply-To: <199607301726.TAA22963@x14.mi.uni-koeln.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: > Julian H. Stacey writes: > > PS WIBNI: ideally for those of us with slow net access, > > ports/ stuff should use for instance 4.0 & then 4.0 + 4.0-4.1.diff, > > to reduce upgrade fetch traffic, > > Well, and even better for those with slow net access > might be, if the font TAR file names would not change > with each minor release. The names I'd prefer to see > used in the port are: > > ghostscript-fonts-other-3.0.tar.gz > ghostscript-fonts-std-4.0.tar.gz > > One of the font TAR files has last been changed nearly > two years ago, the other one has ben valid for all the > gs-3 releases, and was replaced for gs-4, but applies > to 4.00 and 4.01. See the following directory listing > from the Aladdin FTP server: Problems like this should be real easily fixable - or will something more than the number in the filename have to change in the makefile? Sander [directory listing snipped] > > Regards, STefan > From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 11:23:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA24194 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 11:23:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA24187 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 11:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (annexr3-4.slip.Uni-Koeln.DE) by FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE with SMTP id AA26364 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 30 Jul 1996 20:22:58 +0200 Received: (from se@localhost) by x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id UAA23117; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 20:22:51 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 20:22:51 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199607301822.UAA23117@x14.mi.uni-koeln.de> From: Stefan Esser To: Narvi Cc: Stefan Esser , andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 In-Reply-To: References: <199607301726.TAA22963@x14.mi.uni-koeln.de> Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee writes: > > > On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: > > > Julian H. Stacey writes: > > > PS WIBNI: ideally for those of us with slow net access, > > > ports/ stuff should use for instance 4.0 & then 4.0 + 4.0-4.1.diff, > > > to reduce upgrade fetch traffic, > > > > Well, and even better for those with slow net access > > might be, if the font TAR file names would not change > > with each minor release. The names I'd prefer to see > > used in the port are: > > > > ghostscript-fonts-other-3.0.tar.gz > > ghostscript-fonts-std-4.0.tar.gz > > > > One of the font TAR files has last been changed nearly > > two years ago, the other one has ben valid for all the > > gs-3 releases, and was replaced for gs-4, but applies > > to 4.00 and 4.01. See the following directory listing > > from the Aladdin FTP server: > > Problems like this should be real easily fixable - or will something more > than the number in the filename have to change in the makefile? Sure. But what I meant to say was, that if only the name of a distribution files changes, then we should generally keep the old name in the port's Makefile, in order to reduce unneccesary multi-megabyte FTP transfers. A note might be required in the Makefile, which indicates that the TAR file remains unchanged and thus the version from the previous release will still be used ... Regards, STefan From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 11:33:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA24730 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 11:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA24719 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 11:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA04306; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 21:34:33 +0300 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 21:34:32 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: Stefan Esser cc: andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 In-Reply-To: <199607301822.UAA23117@x14.mi.uni-koeln.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: > narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee writes: > > > > > > On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: > > [snip] > > > > Problems like this should be real easily fixable - or will something more > > than the number in the filename have to change in the makefile? > > Sure. But what I meant to say was, that if only > the name of a distribution files changes, then > we should generally keep the old name in the > port's Makefile, in order to reduce unneccesary > multi-megabyte FTP transfers. > Just what I meant - the situation can be changed (that is multi-megabyte transfer avoided) by minute changes to the existing (and future) ports. I can see no way why the ports maintainer should or could object to it other than in the cases when the file with the old name is no more present on the ftp sites (instead of linking, the old file is renamed). > A note might be required in the Makefile, which > indicates that the TAR file remains unchanged > and thus the version from the previous release > will still be used ... All such things *should* be corrected. At least for the future ports. Ok, this goes as IMHO, but I really can't see any counterarguments to it on the moment other than swelling the size of the distfiles directory. Sander > > Regards, STefan > From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 11:35:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA25062 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 11:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (slip139-92-42-150.ut.nl.ibm.net [139.92.42.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA24965; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 11:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhs@localhost) by vector.jhs.no_domain (8.7.5/8.6.9) id UAA22060; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 20:34:12 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 20:34:12 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199607301834.UAA22060@vector.jhs.no_domain> To: pst@freebsd.org cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: gnats needs emacs to even build ! From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany Phone: +49.89.268616 Fax: +49.89.2608126 Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Mailer: EXMH 1.6.7, PGP available Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi PST cc ports I was thinking of learning gnats, but gnats/Makefile: BUILD_DEPENDS= emacs:${PORTSDIR}/editors/emacs on freefall: 10379090 Jun 11 01:34 emacs-19.31.tar.gz I have a 14K modem & limited ftp patience / money for the phone company, plus I happen to like vi, & don't want to learn emacs. Qestion: Is emacs mandatory ? or does gnats have a `running light' capability for vi / whatever-editor-you-choose, instead of emacs. For instance EXMH supports whatever-editor-you-choose. PS please folks, don't let this degenerate into a boring editor religous thread, thanks :-) PPS yes I've ordered ISDN, but thats still only 64Kbps, & thats's 10M of emacs out there I don't want to ftp & learn, I just want to learn gnats :-) Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 12:01:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA28898 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 12:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA28891; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 12:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.5/8.6.9) id MAA10695; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 12:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 12:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607301901.MAA10695@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: jhs@FreeBSD.org CC: pst@FreeBSD.org, ports@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: <199607301834.UAA22060@vector.jhs.no_domain> Subject: Re: gnats needs emacs to even build ! From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * Qestion: Is emacs mandatory ? or does gnats have a `running light' capability Please read the Makefile more carefully. > # we've got some .elc and info files to compile (yuck) > BUILD_DEPENDS= emacs:${PORTSDIR}/editors/emacs Besides, this being BUILD_DEPENDS pretty much implies that this is required for building, not using gnats. Feel free to modify the port to ignore the .elc and info files, and you can take out the BUILD_DEPENDS line if you wish. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 12:29:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA00322 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 12:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA00310; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 12:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA04417; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 21:53:07 +0300 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 21:53:07 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: "Julian H. Stacey" cc: pst@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gnats needs emacs to even build ! In-Reply-To: <199607301834.UAA22060@vector.jhs.no_domain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Hi PST cc ports > > I was thinking of learning gnats, but > gnats/Makefile: > BUILD_DEPENDS= emacs:${PORTSDIR}/editors/emacs > on freefall: > 10379090 Jun 11 01:34 emacs-19.31.tar.gz > > I have a 14K modem & limited ftp patience / money for the phone company, > plus I happen to like vi, & don't want to learn emacs. > Qestion: Is emacs mandatory ? or does gnats have a `running light' capability > for vi / whatever-editor-you-choose, instead of emacs. > For instance EXMH supports whatever-editor-you-choose. > > PS please folks, don't let this degenerate into a boring > editor religous thread, thanks :-) > > PPS yes I've ordered ISDN, but thats still only 64Kbps, & thats's 10M > of emacs out there I don't want to ftp & learn, I just want to learn gnats :-) Hmm... Can't you use the package? Or do you in fact need to build it? You could even watch the build process to the point it needs emacs by removing that dependency... Sander > > Julian > -- > Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ > From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 14:08:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA07023 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 14:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06971 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 14:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fiber.eng.umd.edu (fiber.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.185]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25032; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:07:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by fiber.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA17916; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:07:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@fiber.eng.umd.edu To: Stefan Esser cc: Narvi , Stefan Esser , andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 In-Reply-To: <199607301822.UAA23117@x14.mi.uni-koeln.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: > > Problems like this should be real easily fixable - or will something more > > than the number in the filename have to change in the makefile? > > Sure. But what I meant to say was, that if only > the name of a distribution files changes, then > we should generally keep the old name in the > port's Makefile, in order to reduce unneccesary > multi-megabyte FTP transfers. > > A note might be required in the Makefile, which > indicates that the TAR file remains unchanged > and thus the version from the previous release > will still be used ... I'm not sure I agree with this. The old tar file is very likely to become much harder to get, and keeping parts of older versions, to balance off ftp loading time, well, I think this isn't wise. I think it would just cause much more confusion than the time saved, for the largest number of people. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 14:10:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA07190 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 14:10:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA07130 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 14:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA05226; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 00:13:05 +0300 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 00:13:04 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: Chuck Robey cc: Stefan Esser , andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: > > > > Problems like this should be real easily fixable - or will something more > > > than the number in the filename have to change in the makefile? > > > > Sure. But what I meant to say was, that if only > > the name of a distribution files changes, then > > we should generally keep the old name in the > > port's Makefile, in order to reduce unneccesary > > multi-megabyte FTP transfers. > > > > A note might be required in the Makefile, which > > indicates that the TAR file remains unchanged > > and thus the version from the previous release > > will still be used ... > > I'm not sure I agree with this. The old tar file is very likely to > become much harder to get, and keeping parts of older versions, to > balance off ftp loading time, well, I think this isn't wise. I think it > would just cause much more confusion than the time saved, for the largest > number of people. It is not the case actually - there are cases when there is no newer file, just a link with the new name to the old file... Sander > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data > chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. > 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | > Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD > (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > > From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 14:21:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA08007 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 14:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po2.glue.umd.edu (po2.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA07956 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 14:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fiber.eng.umd.edu (fiber.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.185]) by po2.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA17872; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:20:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by fiber.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA18183; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:20:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@fiber.eng.umd.edu To: Narvi cc: Stefan Esser , andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 31 Jul 1996, Narvi wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: > > > > > > Problems like this should be real easily fixable - or will something more > > > > than the number in the filename have to change in the makefile? > > > > > > Sure. But what I meant to say was, that if only > > > the name of a distribution files changes, then > > > we should generally keep the old name in the > > > port's Makefile, in order to reduce unneccesary > > > multi-megabyte FTP transfers. > > > > > > A note might be required in the Makefile, which > > > indicates that the TAR file remains unchanged > > > and thus the version from the previous release > > > will still be used ... > > > > I'm not sure I agree with this. The old tar file is very likely to > > become much harder to get, and keeping parts of older versions, to > > balance off ftp loading time, well, I think this isn't wise. I think it > > would just cause much more confusion than the time saved, for the largest > > number of people. > > It is not the case actually - there are cases when there is no newer > file, just a link with the new name to the old file... I realize it's a case the the same data, new name, but it's the new name that I think is important. Those of us that know enough, can simply rename the darn thing in our ports/distfiles, and I think that we owe that much to our less sophisticated users, not to inject gratuitous confusion. This is too much of a hack for it to be institutionalized. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 14:24:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA08266 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 14:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA08147 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 14:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA05316; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 00:27:19 +0300 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 00:27:19 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: Chuck Robey cc: Stefan Esser , andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jul 1996, Narvi wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: > > > > > > > > Problems like this should be real easily fixable - or will something more > > > > > than the number in the filename have to change in the makefile? > > > > > > > > Sure. But what I meant to say was, that if only > > > > the name of a distribution files changes, then > > > > we should generally keep the old name in the > > > > port's Makefile, in order to reduce unneccesary > > > > multi-megabyte FTP transfers. > > > > > > > > A note might be required in the Makefile, which > > > > indicates that the TAR file remains unchanged > > > > and thus the version from the previous release > > > > will still be used ... > > > > > > I'm not sure I agree with this. The old tar file is very likely to > > > become much harder to get, and keeping parts of older versions, to > > > balance off ftp loading time, well, I think this isn't wise. I think it > > > would just cause much more confusion than the time saved, for the largest > > > number of people. > > > > It is not the case actually - there are cases when there is no newer > > file, just a link with the new name to the old file... > > I realize it's a case the the same data, new name, but it's the new name > that I think is important. Those of us that know enough, can simply > rename the darn thing in our ports/distfiles, and I think that we owe > that much to our less sophisticated users, not to inject gratuitous > confusion. This is too much of a hack for it to be institutionalized. It still seems to me to be something institutionalised upon the port maintainers - we shouldn't consider them the less sophisticated user's, should we? Sander > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data > chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. > 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | > Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD > (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > > From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 14:41:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA09596 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 14:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA09571 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 14:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fiber.eng.umd.edu (fiber.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.185]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25436; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:39:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by fiber.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA18254; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:39:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:39:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@fiber.eng.umd.edu To: Narvi cc: Stefan Esser , andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 31 Jul 1996, Narvi wrote: > > > > > > It is not the case actually - there are cases when there is no newer > > > file, just a link with the new name to the old file... > > > > I realize it's a case the the same data, new name, but it's the new name > > that I think is important. Those of us that know enough, can simply > > rename the darn thing in our ports/distfiles, and I think that we owe > > that much to our less sophisticated users, not to inject gratuitous > > confusion. This is too much of a hack for it to be institutionalized. > > It still seems to me to be something institutionalised upon the port > maintainers - we shouldn't consider them the less sophisticated user's, > should we? Operating upon the principle of least astonishment, the natural files for a port are those released for that port, whether or not they show up on someone's ftp site as links or not. That is obviously the most straightforward thing to do. The question is whether we should institutionalize the violation of that, to save downloading time for those of us that can listen to ports, and make our own changes. Such things are rare to begin with, and a note to ports will cover the vast moajority of those of us (I'm one of them) who might benefit. Making this change a regular thing would inject confusion into a place that it's not really required. I think I've beat this enough, if everyone else disagrees, I just wanted my say, I won't comment again. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 14:42:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA09675 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 14:42:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inga.augusta.de (root@inga.augusta.de [193.175.23.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA09665 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 14:42:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rabbit by inga.augusta.de with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ulMWf-004ddjC; Tue, 30 Jul 96 23:40 MET DST Received: by rabbit.augusta.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ulCFC-000AOKC; Tue, 30 Jul 96 12:41 MET DST Message-Id: Date: Tue, 30 Jul 96 12:41 MET DST X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.6 Organization: Privat Site running FreeBSD References: <199607282355.XAA57868@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> From: shanee@rabbit.augusta.de (Andreas Kohout) Subject: Re: Problems typing make for Mosaic 2.7b4 X-Original-Newsgroups: muc.lists.freebsd.ports In-Reply-To: <199607282355.XAA57868@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> To: ports@freebsd.org Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <199607282355.XAA57868@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net>, hopcrof@ibm.net writes: > I am having problems with the make of Mosaic 2.7b4. > > Do i need Motif for Mosaic ? yes ... > Will Mosaic work with X11R6 (from XFree86) ? yes .. -- Greeting, Andy running FreeBSD-current --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 15:17:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA12728 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 15:17:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12722; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 15:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) id AAA06257; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 00:00:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by klemm.gtn.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA00714; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 23:58:00 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 23:58:00 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andreas Klemm To: "Julian H. Stacey" cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 In-Reply-To: <199607301640.SAA13836@vector.jhs.no_domain> Message-ID: X-try-apsfilter: ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz X-Fax: +49 2137 2018 X-Phone: +49 2137 2020 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Andreas, cc ports, > Bug report for current ports/print/ghostscript4: > > Fonts are installed in /usr/local/share/ghostscript/fonts -rw------- Well, I have rw-r--r-- here ... So what could be causing the problem ... umask of root account ? 077 ? > Thus if you install 'em you can get 'em, but if you invoke ghostview > from a web browser, the font access fails. Ok, if you have 600 then it's no wonder. > Makefile has: > GS_FONTS_STD= ghostscript-fonts-std-4.01.tar.gz > pre-install: > (cd ${PREFIX}/share/ghostscript ; \ > tar -xzf ${DISTDIR}/${GS_FONTS_STD}) > > I only have ghostscript-fonts-std-4.0.tar.gz & its -rw------- in there, > I'll fetch 4.0.1 next, but its big ... -rw-r--r-- ghost/ftp 25994 28 Jun 20:35 1996 fonts/a010013l.pfb -rw-r--r-- ghost/ftp 26980 28 Jun 20:35 1996 fonts/a010015l.pfb -rw-r--r-- ghost/ftp 26882 28 Jun 20:35 1996 fonts/a010033l.pfb ... > PS WIBNI: ideally for those of us with slow net access, > ports/ stuff should use for instance 4.0 & then 4.0 + 4.0-4.1.diff, > to reduce upgrade fetch traffic, > but I don't know in the specific case of ghostscript > if a diff was available (after all I'm not maintainer :-) It depends on the package ... Many diffs may be larger than fetching the new release. > However if ports maintainers could use diffs where available, > rather than pointing at new mega dists, it could help, > (no complaint, just a WIBNI (Wouldn't It Be Nice If ...) :-) I prefer clean packages. Should be done only if the diffs are definitively smaller than fetching the new release. -- andreas@klemm.gtn.com /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ Support Unix -- andreas.klemm@wup.de pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 15:19:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA12900 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 15:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12890 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 15:19:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) id AAA06318; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 00:00:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by klemm.gtn.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA00757; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 00:01:45 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 00:01:45 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andreas Klemm To: Chuck Robey cc: Stefan Esser , Narvi , ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-try-apsfilter: ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz X-Fax: +49 2137 2018 X-Phone: +49 2137 2020 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > I'm not sure I agree with this. The old tar file is very likely to > become much harder to get, and keeping parts of older versions, to > balance off ftp loading time, well, I think this isn't wise. I think it > would just cause much more confusion than the time saved, for the largest > number of people. I think this might be a strong argument to use actual version numbers. -- andreas@klemm.gtn.com /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ Support Unix -- andreas.klemm@wup.de pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 16:34:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA17348 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 16:34:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA17339 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 16:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA09012 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:33:59 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607302333.RAA09012@rover.village.org> To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Slight off subject: porting ports to other systems Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:33:59 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anybody successfully ported pmake and the ports system to other systems? I'm most interested solaris 2.5.1, as I have to work in that environment. I have been building and building and building sources off the internet and thought it would be cool if I could just setup a quick and dirty makefile for, say, gnu diffutils, type make and have it do all the nice things that FreeBSD's does. I've started porting myself, but thought I'd ask. If there is a better place to ask, please let me know. Thanks a bunch... Warner From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 20:23:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA29006 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 20:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (root@haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA29000 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 20:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from woodlawn.uchicago.edu (root@woodlawn.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.9]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA20238; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 22:22:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from woodlawn.uchicago.edu (csdayton@localhost.uchicago.edu [127.0.0.1]) by woodlawn.uchicago.edu (8.7.1/8.7.2) with ESMTP id WAA22529; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 22:24:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199607310324.WAA22529@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> In-reply-to: Warner Losh's message of Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:33:59 -0600 To: Warner Losh cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Slight off subject: porting ports to other systems Reply-To: csdayton@midway.uchicago.edu References: <199607302333.RAA09012@rover.village.org> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 22:24:21 CDT From: Soren Dayton Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Warner said: > Has anybody successfully ported pmake and the ports system to other > systems? I'm most interested solaris 2.5.1, as I have to work in that > environment. Jake Hamby brought this up and a couple of us expressed interest. BUt as far as I can tell, nothing came up. But a little information was gathered: the netbsd people have ported the BSD 4.4 make to everything in the world. Including svr4 (and therefore solaris). At one point I started making changes to the ports makefile that were SunOS 4.* specific, but I never finished. This is something that I would be interested in doing. Soren From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 30 23:06:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA08680 for ports-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 23:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from precipice.shockwave.com (ppp-5-26.rdcy01.pacbell.net [206.170.5.26]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA08675; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 23:06:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shockwave.com (localhost.shockwave.com [127.0.0.1]) by precipice.shockwave.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA07267; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 23:05:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607310605.XAA07267@precipice.shockwave.com> To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: jhs@FreeBSD.org, ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: gnats needs emacs to even build ! In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jul 1996 12:01:43 PDT." <199607301901.MAA10695@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 23:05:52 -0700 From: Paul Traina Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If you want, you can make it optional, but don't feel free to REMOVE them from the official port, or I will be quite cross. From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Subject: Re: gnats needs emacs to even build ! * Qestion: Is emacs mandatory ? or does gnats have a `running light' capabi >>lity Please read the Makefile more carefully. > # we've got some .elc and info files to compile (yuck) > BUILD_DEPENDS= emacs:${PORTSDIR}/editors/emacs Besides, this being BUILD_DEPENDS pretty much implies that this is required for building, not using gnats. Feel free to modify the port to ignore the .elc and info files, and you can take out the BUILD_DEPENDS line if you wish. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 31 04:09:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA22678 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:09:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA22673 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:09:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id EAA06383 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:09:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "David E. O'Brien" Message-Id: <199607311109.EAA06383@relay.nuxi.com> Subject: new port -- figlet 2.1.1 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (FreeBSD ports list) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:09:21 -0700 (PDT) X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From the pr/ports: A new port -- introducting figlet 2.1.1. Uploaded as figlet-portball.tgz >From the DESC file: Figlet is a program that creates large ASCII art characters out of ordinary screen characters _ _ _ _ _ _ | (_) | _____ | |_| |__ (_)___ | | | |/ / _ \ | __| '_ \| / __| | | | < __/ | |_| | | | \__ \_ |_|_|_|\_\___| \__|_| |_|_|___(_) Figlet can print in a variety of fonts, both left-to-right and right-to-left. Figlet comes with several fonts. Also, many other fonts are avaiable, including Hebrew, Cyrillic (Russian), and Greek. -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu) From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 31 06:41:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA29116 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 06:41:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (slip139-92-42-146.ut.nl.ibm.net [139.92.42.146]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA29104; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 06:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.jhs.no_domain (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA05590; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 11:35:35 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199607310935.LAA05590@vector.jhs.no_domain> To: Andreas Klemm Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany Phone: +49.89.268616 Fax: +49.89.2608126 Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Mailer: EXMH 1.6.7, PGP available In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jul 1996 23:58:00 +0200." Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 11:35:34 +0200 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Reference: > From: Andreas Klemm > > On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > Andreas, cc ports, > > Bug report for current ports/print/ghostscript4: > > > > Fonts are installed in /usr/local/share/ghostscript/fonts -rw------- > > Well, I have rw-r--r-- here ... So what could be causing the > problem ... umask of root account ? 077 ? Yes, both my root & jhs logins use csh, with an /etc/csh.cshrc with umask 066 whilst one might react "that's not FreeBSD default", (& indeed FreeBSD src/etc/csh.cshrc is merely a dummy empty file), although development sites might run with umask 002 or 022 many commercial sites (& lots of non commercial too) will not want global read on by default for normal work, so we can assume that last ----------r-- will often get zapped. ... So I'd like to see the Makefile set the access modes on those fonts please, & not leave it to chance (umask of installer). > > Thus if you install 'em you can get 'em, but if you invoke ghostview > > from a web browser, the font access fails. > > Ok, if you have 600 then it's no wonder. > > > Makefile has: > > GS_FONTS_STD= ghostscript-fonts-std-4.01.tar.gz > > pre-install: > > (cd ${PREFIX}/share/ghostscript ; \ > > tar -xzf ${DISTDIR}/${GS_FONTS_STD}) > > > > I only have ghostscript-fonts-std-4.0.tar.gz & its -rw------- in there, > > I'll fetch 4.0.1 next, but its big ... > > -rw-r--r-- ghost/ftp 25994 28 Jun 20:35 1996 fonts/a010013l.pfb > -rw-r--r-- ghost/ftp 26980 28 Jun 20:35 1996 fonts/a010015l.pfb > -rw-r--r-- ghost/ftp 26882 28 Jun 20:35 1996 fonts/a010033l.pfb > ... Yes, peering in the guts of 4.01 tar binary image: fonts/a010013l.pfb 100644 1132 > > PS WIBNI: ideally for those of us with slow net access, > > ports/ stuff should use for instance 4.0 & then 4.0 + 4.0-4.1.diff, > > to reduce upgrade fetch traffic, > > but I don't know in the specific case of ghostscript > > if a diff was available (after all I'm not maintainer :-) > > It depends on the package ... Many diffs may be larger than > fetching the new release. These files are identical, zero difference ! here's my log: cmp ghostscript-fonts-other-3.53.tar.gz ghostscript-fonts-other-4.0.tar.gz cmp ghostscript-fonts-other-4.0.tar.gz ghostscript-fonts-other-4.01.tar.gz cmp ghostscript-fonts-std-4.0.tar.gz ghostscript-fonts-std-4.01.tar.gz rm ghostscript-fonts-other-3.53.tar.gz ghostscript-fonts-other-4.0.tar.gz ln -s ghostscript-fonts-other-4.01.tar.gz ghostscript-fonts-other-4.0.tar.gz ln -s ghostscript-fonts-other-4.01.tar.gz ghostscript-fonts-other-3.53.tar.gz rm ghostscript-fonts-std-4.0.tar.gz ln -s ghostscript-fonts-std-4.01.tar.gz ghostscript-fonts-std-4.0.tar.gz All that wasted time & money fetching identical files is .. shall we say .. rather annoying ;-) If you can change the Makefile, we can save others time & money :-) > > However if ports maintainers could use diffs where available, > > rather than pointing at new mega dists, it could help, > > (no complaint, just a WIBNI (Wouldn't It Be Nice If ...) :-) > > I prefer clean packages. Should be done only if the diffs are > definitively smaller than fetching the new release. They Are, Identical in fact :-) Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 31 06:45:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA29342 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 06:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (slip139-92-42-146.ut.nl.ibm.net [139.92.42.146]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA29318; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 06:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.jhs.no_domain (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA02479; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 22:24:54 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199607302024.WAA02479@vector.jhs.no_domain> To: Narvi cc: pst@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gnats needs emacs to even build ! From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany Phone: +49.89.268616 Fax: +49.89.2608126 Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Mailer: EXMH 1.6.7, PGP available In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jul 1996 21:53:07 +0300." Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 22:24:53 +0200 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Reference: > From: Narvi > On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > Hi PST cc ports > > > > I was thinking of learning gnats, but > > gnats/Makefile: > > BUILD_DEPENDS= emacs:${PORTSDIR}/editors/emacs > > on freefall: > > 10379090 Jun 11 01:34 emacs-19.31.tar.gz > > > > Hmm... Can't you use the package? Umm, that never even occured to me ! I always `roll my own' :-) > Or do you in fact need to build it? You > could even watch the build process to the point it needs emacs by > removing that dependency... True. I was rather hoping for existence of a `sanitised' gnats; I guess not. ----- > From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) * Qestion: Is emacs mandatory ? or does gnats have a `running light' capability Please read the Makefile more carefully. > # we've got some .elc and info files to compile (yuck) > BUILD_DEPENDS= emacs:${PORTSDIR}/editors/emacs Besides, this being BUILD_DEPENDS pretty much implies that this is required for building, not using gnats. Well, I guess some people perhaps just make a first declaration of a dependency, & assume subsequent dependencies are thus satisfied ? after all there's config, make, install & run depencies .... I'd assumed emacs was needed for running too, & was wondering if anyone had handy tricks (as are available with exmh) to avoid default emacs dependency, & depend on a-n-other ed. > Feel free to modify the port to ignore the .elc and info files, and > you can take out the BUILD_DEPENDS line if you wish. Will it then build & run without emacs ? I'd much prefer if the Maintainer could do this as I don't know gnats I was hoping to learn gnats, rather learn emacs or hack the gnats ports, but I now notice with trepidation, that pst is only in as # Whom: pst & there is no MAINTAINER = So I guess it's wide open for anyone who knows gnats (excludes me, I trust !) Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 31 08:53:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA07496 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 08:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from precipice.shockwave.com (ppp-5-26.rdcy01.pacbell.net [206.170.5.26]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA07489; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 08:53:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shockwave.com (localhost.shockwave.com [127.0.0.1]) by precipice.shockwave.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA08587; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 08:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607311553.IAA08587@precipice.shockwave.com> To: "Julian H. Stacey" cc: Narvi , ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: gnats needs emacs to even build ! In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jul 1996 22:24:53 +0200." <199607302024.WAA02479@vector.jhs.no_domain> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 08:53:06 -0700 From: Paul Traina Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It requires emacs to install correctly. As far as maintainer goes, I'm willing to answer questions, and I intend to audit proposed changes quite heavily, but I'm too busy to sign up for more right now. From: "Julian H. Stacey" Subject: Re: gnats needs emacs to even build ! Hi, Reference: > From: Narvi > On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > Hi PST cc ports > > > > I was thinking of learning gnats, but > > gnats/Makefile: > > BUILD_DEPENDS= emacs:${PORTSDIR}/editors/emacs > > on freefall: > > 10379090 Jun 11 01:34 emacs-19.31.tar.gz > > > > Hmm... Can't you use the package? Umm, that never even occured to me ! I always `roll my own' :-) > Or do you in fact need to build it? You > could even watch the build process to the point it needs emacs by > removing that dependency... True. I was rather hoping for existence of a `sanitised' gnats; I guess not. ----- > From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) * Qestion: Is emacs mandatory ? or does gnats have a `running light' capabi >>lity Please read the Makefile more carefully. > # we've got some .elc and info files to compile (yuck) > BUILD_DEPENDS= emacs:${PORTSDIR}/editors/emacs Besides, this being BUILD_DEPENDS pretty much implies that this is required for building, not using gnats. Well, I guess some people perhaps just make a first declaration of a dependency, & assume subsequent dependencies are thus satisfied ? after all there's config, make, install & run depencies .... I'd assumed emacs was needed for running too, & was wondering if anyone had handy tricks (as are available with exmh) to avoid default emacs dependency, & depend on a-n-other ed. > Feel free to modify the port to ignore the .elc and info files, and > you can take out the BUILD_DEPENDS line if you wish. Will it then build & run without emacs ? I'd much prefer if the Maintainer could do this as I don't know gnats I was hoping to learn gnats, rather learn emacs or hack the gnats ports, but I now notice with trepidation, that pst is only in as # Whom: pst & there is no MAINTAINER = So I guess it's wide open for anyone who knows gnats (excludes me, I trust !) Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 31 10:46:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA12621 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 10:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12615 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 10:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA11323; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 20:49:41 +0300 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 20:49:41 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: FreeBSD ports Subject: Inquiry about ongoing ports. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Actually, I wanted to ask whetever porting of a couple of things was being done by somebody or not... The list of ports of intrest would be: 1) safe-tcl (or did it go to current with tcl?) 2) tix (would be nice to have it) 3) updating the blt extension to tk 4.0/4.1 Yes, and you might have guessed - I'll spend some of my time on these if there aren't any takings... Sander From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 31 14:21:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA00927 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 14:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (slip139-92-42-138.ut.nl.ibm.net [139.92.42.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA00852; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 14:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.jhs.no_domain (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA12789; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 23:18:58 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199607312118.XAA12789@vector.jhs.no_domain> To: Paul Traina cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gnats needs emacs to even build ! From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany Phone: +49.89.268616 Fax: +49.89.2608126 Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Mailer: EXMH 1.6.7, PGP available In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 31 Jul 1996 08:53:06 PDT." <199607311553.IAA08587@precipice.shockwave.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 23:18:54 +0200 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Reference: > From: Paul Traina > Subject: Re: gnats needs emacs to even build ! > > It requires emacs to install correctly. OK, I'm getting a copy of that 10M emacs on tape from a friend. Do I need emacs to run it too ? Do you know of any dodges/hooks to allow alternate editors ? > As far as maintainer goes, > I'm willing to answer questions, and I intend to audit proposed changes > quite heavily, but I'm too busy to sign up for more right now. OK, fine, Thanks :-) Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 31 14:25:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA01621 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 14:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (slip139-92-42-138.ut.nl.ibm.net [139.92.42.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA01540; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 14:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhs@localhost) by vector.jhs.no_domain (8.7.5/8.6.9) id XAA12838; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 23:22:47 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 23:22:47 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199607312122.XAA12838@vector.jhs.no_domain> To: Paul Traina cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gnats needs emacs to even build ! From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany Phone: +49.89.268616 Fax: +49.89.2608126 Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Mailer: EXMH 1.6.7, PGP available In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 31 Jul 1996 08:53:06 PDT." <199607311553.IAA08587@precipice.shockwave.com> Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Reference: > From: Paul Traina > Subject: Re: gnats needs emacs to even build ! > > It requires emacs to install correctly. OK, I'm getting a copy of that 10M emacs on tape from a friend. Do I need emacs to run it too ? Do you know of any dodges/hooks to allow alternate editors ? > As far as maintainer goes, > I'm willing to answer questions, and I intend to audit proposed changes > quite heavily, but I'm too busy to sign up for more right now. OK, fine, Thanks :-) Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 31 14:43:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA05605 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 14:43:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA05569 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 14:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA18334 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 15:43:38 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607312143.PAA18334@rover.village.org> To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Better luck with netscape 3.0b5a Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 15:43:37 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I set the NCLASSPATH and it acted better than when I just set CLASSPATH. Maybe we should set that in the netscape shell script we generate rather than CLASSPATH as is done now. By acted better, I mean that it could initialize the threads when I did netscape -java javaClass. I've still not been able to get that to work completely, but thought this hint useful to pass along. Warner From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 31 15:09:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA08389 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 15:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08321; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 15:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) id XAA15132; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 23:45:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by klemm.gtn.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA00567; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 23:43:15 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 23:43:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andreas Klemm To: "Julian H. Stacey" cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 In-Reply-To: <199607310935.LAA05590@vector.jhs.no_domain> Message-ID: X-try-apsfilter: ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz X-Fax: +49 2137 2018 X-Phone: +49 2137 2020 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 31 Jul 1996, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Yes, both my root & jhs logins use csh, with an /etc/csh.cshrc with > umask 066 > whilst one might react "that's not FreeBSD default", > (& indeed FreeBSD src/etc/csh.cshrc is merely a dummy empty file), > although development sites might run with umask 002 or 022 > many commercial sites (& lots of non commercial too) > will not want global read on by default for normal work, > so we can assume that last ----------r-- will often get zapped. > ... So I'd like to see the Makefile set the access modes on those fonts > please, & not leave it to chance (umask of installer). I'd have to do a post-install: find . -type f -print | xargs chmod 644 Dunno, if all ports should take care of paranoid .cshrc's ... > > Ok, if you have 600 then it's no wonder. ! > All that wasted time & money fetching identical files is > .. shall we say .. rather annoying ;-) If you can change the Makefile, > we can save others time & money :-) Can we let the port be, as it is, this time ? BTW, what about a ports collection CD-COM of it's own ?!?! With distfiles for both, -stable and -current ports ... This would save space on the main FreeBSD OS CD-Rom. Then you'd have all the large source files on CD-ROM. And then no such discussions, how to split the bit. -- andreas@klemm.gtn.com /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ Support Unix -- andreas.klemm@wup.de pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 31 15:14:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA08791 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 15:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08782 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 15:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA05740 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 15:14:15 -0700 (PDT) To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: apsfilter and ghostscript 4.0 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 15:14:14 -0700 Message-ID: <5738.838851254@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk They don't seem to work together for me at all - any plans in this area? GS4 has some better font conversion than 2.6.2/3.51 which I'd like to take advantage of. Thanks! Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 31 17:29:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA16690 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 17:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seagull.rtd.com (root@seagull.rtd.com [198.102.68.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA16685 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 17:29:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dgy@localhost) by seagull.rtd.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA08687 for freebsd-ports@freefall.cdrom.com; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 17:29:20 -0700 (MST) From: Don Yuniskis Message-Id: <199608010029.RAA08687@seagull.rtd.com> Subject: oleo patch To: freebsd-ports@freefall.FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD ports) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 17:29:20 +1700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings! Here are a few patches against the oleo-1.6 port. The first chunk is a "best-guess" so flames to /dev/null (but it seems like a decent guess!) --don ----------------8<--------------8<-----------------8<------------ diff -r --context work/oleo-1.6/init.c work.new/oleo-1.6/init.c *** work/oleo-1.6/init.c Fri Jun 3 22:00:41 1994 --- work.new/oleo-1.6/init.c Mon Jul 29 06:30:13 1996 *************** *** 256,262 **** "bind-set main goto-edit-cell a-z", "bind-set main goto-edit-cell A-Z", "bind-set main goto-edit-cell 0-9", ! "bind-key main goto-edit-cell \\", "bind-key main goto-edit-cell +", "bind-key main goto-edit-cell -", "bind-key main goto-edit-cell *", --- 256,262 ---- "bind-set main goto-edit-cell a-z", "bind-set main goto-edit-cell A-Z", "bind-set main goto-edit-cell 0-9", ! "bind-key main goto-edit-cell \\ ", "bind-key main goto-edit-cell +", "bind-key main goto-edit-cell -", "bind-key main goto-edit-cell *", diff -r --context work/oleo-1.6/io-term.c work.new/oleo-1.6/io-term.c *** work/oleo-1.6/io-term.c Fri Jun 3 23:09:48 1994 --- work.new/oleo-1.6/io-term.c Wed Jul 31 09:41:24 1996 *************** *** 139,146 **** static char * usage[] = { ! " [--version] [--quiet] [--ignore-init-file] [--nw] [--help] \n", ! " [-Vqfh] [file]\n", 0 }; --- 139,146 ---- static char * usage[] = { ! " [--version] [--quiet] [--ignore-init-file] [--nw] [--help]\n", ! " [-Vqfhx] [file]\n", 0 }; *************** *** 1113,1121 **** { tty_graphics (); using_curses = 1; - /* Allow the disclaimer to be read. */ - if (!init_fpc && !spread_quietly) - sleep (5); } io_open_display (); --- 1113,1118 ---- *************** *** 1209,1216 **** display_opened = 1; if (!command_line_file) ! run_string_as_macro ! ("{pushback-keystroke}{builtin-help _NON_WARRANTY_}"); while (1) { setjmp (error_exception); --- 1206,1216 ---- display_opened = 1; if (!command_line_file) ! { ! if (!init_fpc && !spread_quietly) ! run_string_as_macro ! ("{pushback-keystroke}{builtin-help _NON_WARRANTY_}"); ! } while (1) { setjmp (error_exception); From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 31 18:49:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA19174 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 18:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA19169 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 18:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id SAA07622 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 18:50:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "David E. O'Brien" Message-Id: <199608010150.SAA07622@relay.nuxi.com> Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (FreeBSD ports list) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 18:49:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: from Andreas Klemm at "Jul 31, 96 11:43:15 pm" X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Yes, both my root & jhs logins use csh, with an /etc/csh.cshrc with > > umask 066 > > ... So I'd like to see the Makefile set the access modes on those fonts > > please, & not leave it to chance (umask of installer). > > Dunno, if all ports should take care of paranoid .cshrc's ... They should! Over the weekend I installed 2.1.5-R and 82 megs of packages. With my fascist root umask, over half the ports were installed such that mear mortals could not use them. Quite annoying. Could bsd.port.mk set a "umask 022"??? -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu) From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 31 19:30:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA20788 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 19:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wasted.bandwidth.org (root@wasted.bandwidth.org [169.207.10.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA20774 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 19:30:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (desmo@localhost) by wasted.bandwidth.org (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA02424 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 21:30:32 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 21:30:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Kenneth J Monville X-Sender: desmo@wasted To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: xalarm-3.06 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have just uploaded xalarm-3.06 in ~incoming on ftp.freebsd.org. It is a simple X11 based alarm clock that allows time and date events to be scheduled. It stays in the background until the alarm goes off. At that time a window pops up where the cursor position is to "alarm" you. Ken ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ken Monville - desmo@bandwidth.org - http://www.bandwidth.org/~desmo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 31 21:44:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA27134 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 21:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from baloon.mimi.com (sjx-ca56-28.ix.netcom.com [205.186.122.92]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA27129 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 21:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by baloon.mimi.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id VAA01098; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 21:38:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 21:38:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199608010438.VAA01098@baloon.mimi.com> To: sanpei@yy.cs.keio.ac.jp CC: ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607270840.RAA02367@lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp> (message from MIHIRA Yoshiro on Sat, 27 Jul 1996 17:40:10 +0900) Subject: Re: how to get minor version name in ports collection program. From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * But from *FreeBSD Handbook*, the version number via macro is only * `__FreeBSD_version' and it was not different between 2.2-SNAP * versions. It is same number: `199512' under 2.2-SNAPSHOT series. * * >From FreeBSD handbook: 18.2.5.1. Before Starting the Port * * __FreeBSD_version values: * * * * 2.0-RELEASE: 199411 * * 2.1-current's: 199501, 199503 * * 2.0.5-RELEASE: 199504 * * 2.1.0-RELEASE: 199511 * * 2.2-current before 2.1: 199508 * * 2.2-current as 10 Jan 1996: 199512 (will certainly be bumped) BTW, I updated this recently, you can now distinguish between 2.1.5, -current before 2.1.5 and -current after 2.1.5.... * Is `ports-current' source tree only support FreeBSD-currents or * latest SNAP?? It primarily tracks the latest -current. If you can make it work with older versions, especially releases, that is great, but it is not required. For SNAPs, there is no need to attempt to support anything but the last one. (By definition, they are obsolete as soon as the new SNAP appears from the same branch. :) * And in `packages-current/All', fee program is not stayed: * `swisswatch' and `gnu-finger'. Please check it. Sorry, don't know how they slipped through. I compiled them now. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 31 21:50:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA27363 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 21:50:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from baloon.mimi.com (sjx-ca56-28.ix.netcom.com [205.186.122.92]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA27352 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 21:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by baloon.mimi.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id VAA01193; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 21:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 21:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199608010450.VAA01193@baloon.mimi.com> To: obrien@Nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu CC: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199608010150.SAA07622@relay.nuxi.com> (obrien@Nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu) Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * They should! Over the weekend I installed 2.1.5-R and 82 megs of * packages. With my fascist root umask, over half the ports were installed * such that mear mortals could not use them. Quite annoying. * * Could bsd.port.mk set a "umask 022"??? Hey, if you are talking about packages, bsd.port.mk is not going to help! ;) I guess we can add a umask() call to pkg_add, but I'm not sure if Jordan agrees it's a good thing. If you have "umask 027" or some such in your root .cshrc, it means you want to create files with that permission, and it is quite arguable that applications are not supposed to override that. Remember, "root knows what s/he's doing" is the First Principle of Unix. :) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Jul 31 22:01:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA27946 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 22:01:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from baloon.mimi.com (sjx-ca56-28.ix.netcom.com [205.186.122.92]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA27937 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 22:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by baloon.mimi.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id WAA02088; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 22:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 22:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199608010501.WAA02088@baloon.mimi.com> To: obrien@Nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu CC: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199608010450.VAA01193@baloon.mimi.com> (asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk By the way, in terms of bsd.port.mk, this is one solution acceptable to me (and other purists).... === Index: bsd.port.mk =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/share/mk/bsd.port.mk,v retrieving revision 1.217 diff -u -r1.217 bsd.port.mk --- bsd.port.mk 1996/07/27 11:54:30 1.217 +++ bsd.port.mk 1996/08/01 04:57:59 @@ -718,6 +718,11 @@ .if !target(do-install) do-install: + @if [ `/bin/sh -c umask` != 0022 ]; then \ + ${ECHO_MSG} "===> Warning: your umask is \"`/bin/sh -c umask`"\".; \ + ${ECHO_MSG} " If this is not desired, set it to an appropriate value"; \ + ${ECHO_MSG} " and install this port again by \`\`make reinstall''."; \ + fi .if defined(USE_GMAKE) @(cd ${WRKSRC} && ${SETENV} ${MAKE_ENV} ${GMAKE} ${MAKE_FLAGS} ${MAKEFILE} ${INSTALL_TARGET}) .if defined(USE_IMAKE) && !defined(NO_INSTALL_MANPAGES) === Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 01:38:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA04268 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 01:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from render.gu.kiev.ua (render.gu.kiev.ua [193.124.51.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA04202 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 01:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from creator.gu.kiev.ua (root@creator.gu.kiev.ua [193.124.51.73]) by render.gu.kiev.ua with ESMTP id LAA22464; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 11:33:11 +0300 Received: (from stesin@localhost) by creator.gu.kiev.ua id LAA06379; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 11:33:04 +0300 From: Andrew Stesin Message-Id: <199608010833.LAA06379@creator.gu.kiev.ua> Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 To: obrien@Nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu (David E. O'Brien) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 11:33:04 +0300 (EET DST) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Reply-To: stesin@gu.kiev.ua In-Reply-To: <199608010150.SAA07622@relay.nuxi.com> from "David E. O'Brien" at Jul 31, 96 06:49:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, | Could bsd.port.mk set a "umask 022"??? I vote "YES!!!" | | -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu) | -- nic-hdl: ST73-RIPE From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 01:44:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA04543 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 01:44:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seagull.rtd.com (root@seagull.rtd.com [198.102.68.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA04535 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 01:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dgy@localhost) by seagull.rtd.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA13462 for freebsd-ports@freefall.cdrom.com; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 01:44:04 -0700 (MST) From: Don Yuniskis Message-Id: <199608010844.BAA13462@seagull.rtd.com> Subject: a man page for oleo To: freebsd-ports@freefall.FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD ports) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 01:44:04 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings! Attached is a hacked together man page for the oleo-1.6 port. I make no claims to it's accuracy, etc. I simply gathered up some of the docs in the port and scattered appropriate troff macros within it to give it some semblance of a real man page. The port/package does not install any other documentation so I figured this was better than nothing... --don ------------------8<--------------8<---------------8<---------- begin 755 oleo.1.gz M'XL("*]J`#(``V]L96\N,0#MO7U_V\:5,/JWYU.@CEN278*1Y"1-W*9Y9%E. 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O'Brien" cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (FreeBSD ports list) Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 31 Jul 1996 18:49:59 PDT." <199608010150.SAA07622@relay.nuxi.com> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 03:17:25 -0700 Message-ID: <7118.838894645@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > They should! Over the weekend I installed 2.1.5-R and 82 megs of > packages. With my fascist root umask, over half the ports were installed > such that mear mortals could not use them. Quite annoying. find is your friend. :-) > Could bsd.port.mk set a "umask 022"??? Sigh....................................... It seems like every time this comes up, one half of the room screams "It's NOT BROKEN, YOU CRETIN! IT'S *SUPPOSED* TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE UMASK! WHAT IF I DON'T *WANT* MERE MORTALS TO USE A PACKAGE I'M INSTALLING?!" and the other half then responds, with equally gratuitous use of capital letters, "YES IT *IS* BROKEN, YOU FASCIST BOFH ANAL-RETENTIVE TYPES! EASE OF USE! EASE OF USE! [chanting and stomping]." Things then usually degenerate from there. I personally take the position that if you want a nice umask, you should set a nice umask, and this position also conventiently saves me the work of actually changing anything. Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 04:00:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA10103 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 04:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA10095 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 04:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA07717; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 03:59:38 -0700 (PDT) To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: obrien@Nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 31 Jul 1996 22:01:25 PDT." <199608010501.WAA02088@baloon.mimi.com> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 03:59:38 -0700 Message-ID: <7715.838897178@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > By the way, in terms of bsd.port.mk, this is one solution acceptable > to me (and other purists).... Doesn't help the package installs one whit tho.. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 04:43:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA11117 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 04:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA11112 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 04:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA07874; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 07:43:55 +0500 Message-Id: <9608011143.AA07874@mail> From: jspath@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (Webmaster Jim) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 07:43:54 -0400 X-Hack: cough, cough X-Mailusersshell-Patchlevel: a srb@cuci.nl (Stephen R. van den Berg) X-Mailer: X-Organization: planet earth X-Signature: /jes X-Url: jim's url X-Face: $[):DI3,{Z,[[9Gb^H.yPU[6-J}^Co2e-J!p*jQ>Q8++K~?Ejg~3#,vmYi;O8E55~r~#wa2 WdUS{+X2e6mt${6._[/U%N~y"Br4L6Lm%S0XI8RRTs"'Dpz]#@hD@I`i@G[Q+'" cKd3Acq&}J;,FhT"6d1[H=*<;o2?Z_RK&He4+Td%v3:47/5;A>0mBqsG-KB8l:\43FGDe;U To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Fwd: Lynx and packet size Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I read this on the lynx-dev list, and thought someone more knowledgable about FreeBSD could answer the following: On Jul 31, 8:52pm, lynx-dev@sig.net wrote: } From: Klaus Weide } To: Information Help Desk } Cc: Lynx Development } In-Reply-To: } Message-Id: } Reply-To: lynx-dev@sig.net } On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Information Help Desk wrote: } > HI !!! } > Our server is running the FreeBSD operating system. We ported } > lynx and have it installed without problems. We tried connecting to } > popular sites such as www.yahoo.com and www.lycos.com and lynx } > successfully connects. However, when we tried sites such as } > www.freebsd.org, ftp.cdrom.com, and www.altavista.digital.com, lynx } > somehow cannot connect. It stops on the message at the screen's bottom } > saying, } > } > HTTP request sent; waiting for response. } > } > And, this goes on forever !!! } > } > We tried lynx running in the Linux operating system, and it was } > able to connect to such sites where lynx in FreeBSD cannot connect to. } } I strongly suspect that this has nothing to do with lynx, but with } the TCP/IP implementation of the operating systems you are using } and/or your machines' network connections. You should hoave the same } kind of problems when using other programs from your FreeBSD machine, } so that connecting to e.g. ftp.cdrom.com with the regular ftp program } shouldn't work either. } } I connected to the five servers you listed from a linux machine and } watched (with tcpdump) the packets that were received from those } servers. The three servers that you list as not working have in } common that they are sending packets longer than the minimum } MTU of 576 bytes. The two servers that worked for you did not. } So I think there lies your problem - your networking path cannot } transmit IP packets greater than 576 bytes, and the FreeBSD OS } does not properly implement either "Path MTU discovery" or } "packet fragmentation and reassambly" (or your router does not } send the required ICMP error messages back to your FreeBSD machine } when it drops a packet that is too big). } } If you have a ping command that allows you to specify a size for } the probe packets (-s option or similar), try it for different } sizes and see what you get. } } I am not familiar with FreeBSD, but probably the easiest solution } (or workaround) would be to find the proper parameters to use for } the "ifconfig" command when the machine boots. On Linux, that } would be something like "ifconfig <...> mtu 576". Or if you } are using PPP or SLIP to connect to the Internet, use the } appropriate options there. } } Klaus }-- End of excerpt from lynx-dev@sig.net -- I don't speak (or work) for the Baltimore County Public Library. They keep telling me, "Shhhhh!" From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 04:43:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA11141 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 04:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA11110 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 04:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA16075; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 14:46:35 +0300 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 14:46:34 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: "David E. O'Brien" , FreeBSD ports list Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 In-Reply-To: <7118.838894645@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > They should! Over the weekend I installed 2.1.5-R and 82 megs of > > packages. With my fascist root umask, over half the ports were installed > > such that mear mortals could not use them. Quite annoying. > > find is your friend. :-) > > > Could bsd.port.mk set a "umask 022"??? > > Sigh....................................... > > It seems like every time this comes up, one half of the room screams > "It's NOT BROKEN, YOU CRETIN! IT'S *SUPPOSED* TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE > UMASK! WHAT IF I DON'T *WANT* MERE MORTALS TO USE A PACKAGE I'M > INSTALLING?!" and the other half then responds, with equally > gratuitous use of capital letters, "YES IT *IS* BROKEN, YOU FASCIST > BOFH ANAL-RETENTIVE TYPES! EASE OF USE! EASE OF USE! [chanting and > stomping]." > > Things then usually degenerate from there. I personally take the > position that if you want a nice umask, you should set a nice umask, > and this position also conventiently saves me the work of actually > changing anything. > How about the third way? Make a variable called PORTS_SET_UMASK or something. It will allow those who always (or just sometimes) forget to change their umask so that the port will be usable for "mere mortals"? Those who want the port to follow the umask will certainly not define that vriable. For those who don't, who forgot to change it, etc. can just define it in some dotfile and have it set every time they log/su in. No problems (except for yet another change to the .mk files). IMHO it could satisfy most people. Sander > Jordan > From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 04:46:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA11287 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 04:46:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA11282 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 04:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id EAA07918; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 04:45:44 -0700 (PDT) To: Narvi cc: "David E. O'Brien" , FreeBSD ports list Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 01 Aug 1996 14:46:34 +0300." Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 04:45:44 -0700 Message-ID: <7916.838899944@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > They should! Over the weekend I installed 2.1.5-R and 82 megs of > > > packages. With my fascist root umask, over half the ports were installed > How about the third way? Make a variable called PORTS_SET_UMASK or > something. It will allow those who always (or just sometimes) forget to > change their umask so that the port will be usable for "mere mortals"? If you read the original poster's message again, you'll note that he was complaining about packages being installed with a fascist umask, and whether or not pkg_add should set the umask. The ports hack won't help this case. Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 05:06:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA11839 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 05:06:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po2.glue.umd.edu (po2.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA11834 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 05:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from baud.eng.umd.edu (baud.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.183]) by po2.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA04721; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:06:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by baud.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA05007; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:06:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: baud.eng.umd.edu: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:06:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@baud.eng.umd.edu To: Don Yuniskis cc: FreeBSD ports Subject: Re: a man page for oleo In-Reply-To: <199608010844.BAA13462@seagull.rtd.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Don Yuniskis wrote: > Greetings! > Attached is a hacked together man page for the oleo-1.6 > port. I make no claims to it's accuracy, etc. I simply > gathered up some of the docs in the port and scattered > appropriate troff macros within it to give it some semblance > of a real man page. The port/package does not install any > other documentation so I figured this was better than nothing... > --don Nice job, Don! oleo has needed that for a long time. D'you think maybe you could contribute that back to the oleo author? ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 05:29:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA12937 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 05:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seagull.rtd.com (root@seagull.rtd.com [198.102.68.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA12932 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 05:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dgy@localhost) by seagull.rtd.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA25472; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 05:29:38 -0700 (MST) From: Don Yuniskis Message-Id: <199608011229.FAA25472@seagull.rtd.com> Subject: Re: a man page for oleo To: chuckr@glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 05:29:37 -0700 (MST) Cc: dgy@rtd.com, freebsd-ports@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Chuck Robey" at Aug 1, 96 08:06:01 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Attached is a hacked together man page for the oleo-1.6 > > port. I make no claims to it's accuracy, etc. I simply > > gathered up some of the docs in the port and scattered > > appropriate troff macros within it to give it some semblance > > of a real man page. The port/package does not install any > > other documentation so I figured this was better than nothing... > > Nice job, Don! oleo has needed that for a long time. D'you think maybe > you could contribute that back to the oleo author? Hmmm... I don't know if the macro package I used is that "universal" (??). Also, the accuracy of the page is somewhat questionable -- but it at least makes *some* information available to users, etc. I'm waiting on some questions I sent to "bug-oleo" before putting together a set of diffs to send along to he/she/it/them. I guess I could throw the page in and they could always throw it back out! --don From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 05:49:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA13831 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 05:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA13813 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 05:48:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA16399; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 15:52:37 +0300 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 15:52:36 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: Webmaster Jim cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Lynx and packet size In-Reply-To: <9608011143.AA07874@mail> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Webmaster Jim wrote: > I read this on the lynx-dev list, and thought someone more knowledgable > about FreeBSD could answer the following: > > On Jul 31, 8:52pm, lynx-dev@sig.net wrote: > } From: Klaus Weide > } To: Information Help Desk > } Cc: Lynx Development > } In-Reply-To: > } Message-Id: > } Reply-To: lynx-dev@sig.net > } On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Information Help Desk wrote: > } > HI !!! > } > Our server is running the FreeBSD operating system. We ported > } > lynx and have it installed without problems. We tried connecting to > } > popular sites such as www.yahoo.com and www.lycos.com and lynx > } > successfully connects. However, when we tried sites such as > } > www.freebsd.org, ftp.cdrom.com, and www.altavista.digital.com, lynx > } > somehow cannot connect. It stops on the message at the screen's bottom > } > saying, > } > > } > HTTP request sent; waiting for response. > } > > } > And, this goes on forever !!! > } > > } > We tried lynx running in the Linux operating system, and it was > } > able to connect to such sites where lynx in FreeBSD cannot connect to. > } > } I strongly suspect that this has nothing to do with lynx, but with > } the TCP/IP implementation of the operating systems you are using > } and/or your machines' network connections. You should hoave the same > } kind of problems when using other programs from your FreeBSD machine, > } so that connecting to e.g. ftp.cdrom.com with the regular ftp program > } shouldn't work either. > } > } I connected to the five servers you listed from a linux machine and > } watched (with tcpdump) the packets that were received from those > } servers. The three servers that you list as not working have in > } common that they are sending packets longer than the minimum > } MTU of 576 bytes. The two servers that worked for you did not. > } So I think there lies your problem - your networking path cannot > } transmit IP packets greater than 576 bytes, and the FreeBSD OS > } does not properly implement either "Path MTU discovery" or > } "packet fragmentation and reassambly" (or your router does not > } send the required ICMP error messages back to your FreeBSD machine > } when it drops a packet that is too big). I am yet to see anyone find the FreeBSD networking stack deficient. If there is a problem, then it is on the way from your FreeBSD computer to the hosts. BTW. could you connect to these sites with the ordianry ftp program? Perhaps that copy of lynx you ported was broken in some way? Or did you use the official port/package? > } > } If you have a ping command that allows you to specify a size for > } the probe packets (-s option or similar), try it for different > } sizes and see what you get. > } > } I am not familiar with FreeBSD, but probably the easiest solution > } (or workaround) would be to find the proper parameters to use for > } the "ifconfig" command when the machine boots. On Linux, that > } would be something like "ifconfig <...> mtu 576". Or if you > } are using PPP or SLIP to connect to the Internet, use the > } appropriate options there. Of what use could be ifconfig mtu if the problem is on the length of packets the other side sends? Sander > } > } Klaus > }-- End of excerpt from lynx-dev@sig.net > -- > I don't speak (or work) for the Baltimore County Public Library. > They keep telling me, "Shhhhh!" > From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 08:04:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA19124 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA19105 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA22333 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 09:03:54 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199608011503.JAA22333@rover.village.org> To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Emacs 19.31 Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 09:03:54 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Looks like I'm having problems with the emacs 19.31 port. On Sparc, the word wrap works flawlessly, but on FreeBSD it will not. Specifically, it will look like it doesn't wrape the word and it will hang out on the end. A refresh of the screen will clear up the problem, for the moment, but it will keep happening (it has happened four times since I started typing this letter). Has anybody else compiled emacs 19.31 on a -current system with the stock gcc compiler (the 2.6.3 one)? Is anybody else seeing this problem? I'm also having problems with Java mode on FreeBSD, but not on Sparc. Emacs 19.30 seems to not have these problems, but that isn't the official port version. To recreate the problem: ESC 7 2 C-x f M-x auto-fill-mode E m a c s SPC 1 9 . 3 0 SPC s e e m s SPC t o SPC n o t SPC h a v e SPC t h e s e SPC p r o b l e m s , SPC b u t SPC t h a t SPC i s n ' t SPC t h e SPC o f f i c i a l SPC p o r t C-l when you hit ^L at the end there, you will notice 'official port' jump from the previous line down to the next line. This happens in the X display *AND* in the ASCII display modes of emacs. I'm off to try to compile things without -O and the like, but was hoping to have someone tell me "Oh, yeah, I saw that and needed to mumble blah to get it to work." Or even "used 2.7.2 and it worked fine if I ferkel flewed it." Warner From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 08:29:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA20416 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA20408; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:29:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Lehey Message-Id: <199608011529.IAA20408@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Emacs 19.31 To: imp@village.org (Warner Losh) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199608011503.JAA22333@rover.village.org> from "Warner Losh" at Aug 1, 96 09:03:54 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Looks like I'm having problems with the emacs 19.31 port. On Sparc, > the word wrap works flawlessly, but on FreeBSD it will not. > Specifically, it will look like it doesn't wrape the word and it will > hang out on the end. A refresh of the screen will clear up the > problem, for the moment, but it will keep happening (it has happened > four times since I started typing this letter). > > Has anybody else compiled emacs 19.31 on a -current system with the > stock gcc compiler (the 2.6.3 one)? Is anybody else seeing this > problem? I'm also having problems with Java mode on FreeBSD, but not > on Sparc. Yes, I've been using it for some time inexactly this configuration. On the other hand, you may be looking in the wrong place: this looks like a mismatch between Emacs and the X server (assuming you're using the X version) or the terminal emulator (assuming you're not). I run XInside to a different machine (BSD/OS), and this may account for the differences. I'm currently on vacation, and I'm accessing freefall via an Atari using vt100 emulation (well, supposedly). It has *lots* of trouble with Emacs 19.29, and I continually have to redisplay the screen. Other programs, such as elm and vi, don't seem to have any problems. Greg From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 08:34:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA20833 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spooky.rwwa.com (rwwa.com [198.115.177.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA20811 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.rwwa.com (localhost.rwwa.com [127.0.0.1]) by spooky.rwwa.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA00940 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 11:34:04 -0400 Message-Id: <199608011534.LAA00940@spooky.rwwa.com> X-Authentication-Warning: spooky.rwwa.com: Host localhost.rwwa.com didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: SSH port lacking Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 11:34:03 -0400 From: Robert Withrow Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Since I only have time to subscribe to hackers, pardon me if this is old news: There seem to be three things wrong with the 2.1.5 SSH port (using make USA_RESIDENT=NO [for testing purposes only... ;-)]): 1) Incorrect MD5 checksum (the distribution matches it pgp signature, so I assume the checksum is wrong). 2) The configure phase produces some garbage concerning PERL. Whether this causes problems I don't know. 3) I had to manually hack config.h to set XAUTH_PATH. This used to be done automatically by the configure script (in release 13). Without this you don't get X connection forwarding. Would these be fixed in ports-current? Can one use ports-current with 2.1.5? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Withrow, Tel: +1 617 592 8935, Net: witr@rwwa.COM From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 08:36:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA21031 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA21012 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id IAA09853 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:36:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "David E. O'Brien" Message-Id: <199608011536.IAA09853@relay.nuxi.com> Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (FreeBSD ports list) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:36:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199608010450.VAA01193@baloon.mimi.com> from Satoshi Asami at "Jul 31, 96 09:50:30 pm" X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > * They should! Over the weekend I installed 2.1.5-R and 82 megs of > * packages. With my fascist root umask, over half the ports were installed > * such that mear mortals could not use them. Quite annoying. > * > * Could bsd.port.mk set a "umask 022"??? > > Hey, if you are talking about packages, bsd.port.mk is not going to > help! ;) I kinda expected that if an explicit "umask 022" was put in bsd.port.mk that the resulting +CONTENTS file would have approapiate "@mode" lines. I guess it shows I don't know too much about the package transformation process from a port and how all those "@" lines get in there. My qualm wasn't as much with the resulting permissions when I build a port manually. I figure if I went to that much trouble, then I should have the control to have more fascist file permisssions. But, I expected that when I install a Package, that it is installed with the permissions of the files it was build from. Correct me if I am wrong, but in order to create a package, you must ``make install'' a port first. The resulting package is just a tarball of the installed files, and some magic to produce the +CONTENTS and +MTREE_DIRS files. I assume that you are using a umask of 022 when you built the offical packages. (yea I know what "assume" stands for :-)) > I guess we can add a umask() call to pkg_add, but I'm not sure if > Jordan agrees it's a good thing. Not an explicit umask() call, but just presurve the permissions on the files in the pre-compiled package. > If you have "umask 027" or some such in your root .cshrc, it means you > want to create files with that permission There could be an option to pkg_add that would override the permissions in the package when adding. Yea, I know, "yuck! not yet another option". Just a thought, -- David From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 08:39:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA21123 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA21117 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA25772; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 09:38:29 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199608011538.JAA25772@rover.village.org> To: Greg Lehey Subject: Re: Emacs 19.31 Cc: ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 01 Aug 1996 08:29:38 PDT Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 09:38:29 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk : Yes, I've been using it for some time inexactly this configuration. : On the other hand, you may be looking in the wrong place: this looks : like a mismatch between Emacs and the X server (assuming you're using : the X version) or the terminal emulator (assuming you're not). I run : XInside to a different machine (BSD/OS), and this may account for the : differences. Interesting data point. I'll have to keep that in mind. It's happen on *BOTH* the X server version and identically oddly in the xterm that I'm running on an NCD X Terminal or xterm that ships with Solaris 2.5.1 and the xterm that is in X11R6.1 built on Solaris 2.5.1. The xterms behaved the same displayed on my XFree86 3.2.1 server and on Solaris' openwindows server (Haven't tried the X server that gets built as part of X11R6.1). I don't have any real, working VT100s to try it on. The paint glitches only seem to happen with auto-fill-mode turned on. Otherwise everything is fine, that I've noticed. So you've been using it in built with the 2.6.3 compiler? Interesting. Very interesting. : I'm currently on vacation, and I'm accessing freefall via an Atari : using vt100 emulation (well, supposedly). It has *lots* of trouble : with Emacs 19.29, and I continually have to redisplay the screen. : Other programs, such as elm and vi, don't seem to have any problems. I had a lot of problems on the console of my machine (not in X) with emacs 19.29 as well. It is much better than the emacs that was in 2.0R, however. Warner From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 08:51:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA21807 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA21802 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id IAA09914; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:51:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "David E. O'Brien" Message-Id: <199608011551.IAA09914@relay.nuxi.com> Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:51:58 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (FreeBSD ports list) In-Reply-To: <7118.838894645@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Aug 1, 96 03:17:25 am" X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > They should! Over the weekend I installed 2.1.5-R and 82 megs of > > packages. With my fascist root umask, over half the ports were installed > > such that mear mortals could not use them. Quite annoying. > > find is your friend. :-) Yep, best friend sometimes :-) But I didn't want to make a sweaping chmod. Some the of the files belonging to security related packages are supose to have fascist permissions. So I had to do a lot of it by hand. > > Could bsd.port.mk set a "umask 022"??? > > Sigh....................................... > with equally gratuitous use of capital letters look ma! no capital letters :-)) > I personally take the position that if you want a nice umask, you > should set a nice umask, I applied Satoshi's diffs to my local bsd.port.mk and that is a good reminder for me on port installs. Just patching my local copy of bsd.port.mk is ok with me (as long as changes I make are compatable with the stock one -- which this one is :-)) But, my dislike deals with the precompiled Packages. Could it pkg_add preserve file permissions? Or if that is not desired, an option added to do so? As a side note, I think the ports collection is one of FreeBSD's greatest assets. I agree that for the precompiled packages, ease of use (with no surprises) is a Good Thing. I've shown several Linux users FreeBSD. The precompiled packages that are so easy to install is the one thing that convinced a few of the to switch to FBSD. -- David From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 09:12:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA22774 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 09:12:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA22769 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 09:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA26143; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 10:12:11 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199608011612.KAA26143@rover.village.org> To: Greg Lehey Subject: Re: Emacs 19.31 Cc: ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 01 Aug 1996 08:29:38 PDT Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 10:12:10 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hmmm. I think I found the problem. <*BLUSH*>. The problem only happens in MH-Letter mode. I had an old version of mh-e in my load-path. Removing it from the load path fixed the problem, or at least made it much less likely to happen that the same tests that caused it before aren't causing it now. Sorry for any premature confusion... Warner From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 11:50:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA01230 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 11:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asstdc.scgt.oz.au (root@asstdc.scgt.oz.au [202.14.234.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01224; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 11:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from imb@localhost) by asstdc.scgt.oz.au (8.7.5/BSD4.4) id EAA19945 Fri, 2 Aug 1996 04:49:57 +1000 (EST) From: michael butler Message-Id: <199608011849.EAA19945@asstdc.scgt.oz.au> Subject: small patch for UCD SNMP To: gpalmer@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 04:49:56 +1000 (EST) Cc: ports@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24beta] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In case anyone's actually noticed .. there's a host <> network byte order problem in snmpnetstat when displaying port numbers which also appeared in the CMU code. I've verified that the following patch is correct using my Cisco as a reference point .. Note that the line-numbers are probably wrong but my (rather) hacked version of .../apps/snmpnetstat/inet.c generates this diff .. *** inet.c~ Wed Apr 24 22:42:03 1996 --- inet.c Wed Apr 24 23:55:36 1996 *************** *** 457,463 **** sprintf(line, "%.*s.", 16, inetname(*in)); cp = index(line, '\0'); if (!nflag && port) ! sp = getservbyport((int)port, proto); if (sp || port == 0) sprintf(cp, "%.8s", sp ? sp->s_name : "*"); else --- 457,463 ---- sprintf(line, "%.*s.", 16, inetname(*in)); cp = index(line, '\0'); if (!nflag && port) ! sp = getservbyport((int)ntohs(port), proto); if (sp || port == 0) sprintf(cp, "%.8s", sp ? sp->s_name : "*"); else Sorry, I'm not on the ports list so, if this has already been addressed, I apologize, michael From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 13:35:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA18408 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 13:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tippy.cybernet.com (tippy.cybernet.com [192.245.33.86]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA18379 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 13:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pcobb@localhost) by tippy.cybernet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA14216; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 16:34:10 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.4-alpha [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199607312143.PAA18334@rover.village.org> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 16:31:41 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: pcobb@cybernet.com From: "Paul N. Cobb" To: Warner Losh Subject: RE: Better luck with netscape 3.0b5a Cc: ports@freebsd.org Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 31-Jul-96 Warner Losh wrote: >>I set the NCLASSPATH and it acted better than when I just set >CLASSPATH. Maybe we should set that in the netscape shell script we >generate rather than CLASSPATH as is done now. > >By acted better, I mean that it could initialize the threads when I >did netscape -java javaClass. I've still not been able to get that to >work completely, but thought this hint useful to pass along. > >Warner I tried your fix for 3.0b5a and it does seem to find the threads, but it doesn't compile correctly yet. I set up javac_netscape to use 3.0b2 specifically and then run 3.0b5 to test stuff. does anyone have any idea how long the kaffe development is going to take? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Cobb Research Engineer pcobb@cybernet.com Cybernet Systems Corp. (313)668-2567 Ann Arbor, MI 'Is this a special moment or should we be disturbed?' - The Tick ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 13:38:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA20786 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 13:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA20730 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 13:38:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA28240; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 14:37:25 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199608012037.OAA28240@rover.village.org> To: pcobb@cybernet.com Subject: Re: Better luck with netscape 3.0b5a Cc: ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 01 Aug 1996 16:31:41 EDT Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 14:37:25 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk : I tried your fix for 3.0b5a and it does seem to find the threads, : but it doesn't compile correctly yet. I set up javac_netscape to use : 3.0b2 specifically and then run 3.0b5 to test stuff. Don't have the luxury of using 3.0b2, since I can't seem to find it on the ftp sites :-(. : does anyone have any idea how long the kaffe development is going to take? kaffe will likely take a while. Especially if you want gui classes. Many things work, but many are broken with it. :-(. Warner From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 13:44:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA24799 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 13:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA24778 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 13:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fiber.eng.umd.edu (fiber.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.185]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA22669 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 16:44:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by fiber.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA22129 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 16:44:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: fiber.eng.umd.edu: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 16:44:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@fiber.eng.umd.edu To: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Sample Makefile Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk OK, I've gone a long way on the sample Makefile, I think it's ready. If you want to take a look, it's in ~chuckr/Makeport, on freefall. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 13:58:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA28432 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 13:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bacall.lodgenet.com (bacall.lodgenet.com [205.138.147.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA28427 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 13:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by bacall.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA04551 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 15:58:14 -0500 Received: from garbo.lodgenet.com(204.124.123.250) by bacall via smap (V1.3) id sma004546; Thu Aug 1 15:58:11 1996 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [204.124.120.30]) by garbo.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA18983 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 15:58:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA21882 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 15:58:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199608012058.PAA21882@jake.lodgenet.com> X-Authentication-Warning: jake.lodgenet.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: INDEX file Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 15:58:15 -0500 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is this file machine generated? If not should it be? eric. -- erich@lodgenet.com http://rrnet.com/~erich erich@rrnet.com From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 14:06:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA28797 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 14:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bacall.lodgenet.com (bacall.lodgenet.com [205.138.147.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA28787 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 14:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by bacall.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA05102 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 16:06:22 -0500 Received: from garbo.lodgenet.com(204.124.123.250) by bacall via smap (V1.3) id sma005093; Thu Aug 1 16:06:09 1996 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [204.124.120.30]) by garbo.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA19265 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 16:06:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA22164 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 16:06:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199608012106.QAA22164@jake.lodgenet.com> X-Authentication-Warning: jake.lodgenet.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: gimp v0.54 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 16:06:14 -0500 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone else looked at this port? It worked fine for me, if no one has any comments, I'll commit it. There's also a gimp developers release gimp960725.tgz, or similar. This version doesn't require motif, but by the trail of gimpXXXXXX.tgz tarballs on the ftp site, it looks high-maintenence. Should this be a separate port, along the lines of netscape[2|3]? (or just ignored 'til its mainstream). eric. -- erich@lodgenet.com http://rrnet.com/~erich erich@rrnet.com From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 14:18:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA29452 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 14:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po2.glue.umd.edu (po2.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA29439 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 14:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fiber.eng.umd.edu (fiber.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.185]) by po2.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA11616; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:18:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by fiber.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA22260; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:18:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: fiber.eng.umd.edu: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:18:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@fiber.eng.umd.edu To: "Eric L. Hernes" cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: INDEX file In-Reply-To: <199608012058.PAA21882@jake.lodgenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Eric L. Hernes wrote: > > Is this file machine generated? It is. Using the Makefile in /usr/ports, make index. > If not should it be? > > eric. > -- > erich@lodgenet.com > http://rrnet.com/~erich erich@rrnet.com > > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 14:34:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA00676 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 14:34:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po2.glue.umd.edu (po2.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA00662 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 14:34:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fiber.eng.umd.edu (fiber.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.185]) by po2.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA11764; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:34:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by fiber.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA22276; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:34:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: fiber.eng.umd.edu: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:34:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@fiber.eng.umd.edu To: "Eric L. Hernes" cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gimp v0.54 In-Reply-To: <199608012106.QAA22164@jake.lodgenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Eric L. Hernes wrote: > > Has anyone else looked at this port? It worked > fine for me, if no one has any comments, I'll > commit it. > > There's also a gimp developers release gimp960725.tgz, > or similar. This version doesn't require motif, but > by the trail of gimpXXXXXX.tgz tarballs on the ftp > site, it looks high-maintenence. Should this be > a separate port, along the lines of netscape[2|3]? > (or just ignored 'til its mainstream). Michael Searle was telling me that gimp compiled under lesstif. He sent me a lesstif port, I'm working on it. Give me a day or two. > > eric. > > > -- > erich@lodgenet.com > http://rrnet.com/~erich erich@rrnet.com > > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 15:06:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA02525 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 15:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bacall.lodgenet.com (bacall.lodgenet.com [205.138.147.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA02515 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 15:06:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by bacall.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA07912; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:06:19 -0500 Received: from garbo.lodgenet.com(204.124.123.250) by bacall via smap (V1.3) id sma007905; Thu Aug 1 17:05:57 1996 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [204.124.120.30]) by garbo.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA21073; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:05:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA01231; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:06:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199608012206.RAA01231@jake.lodgenet.com> X-Authentication-Warning: jake.lodgenet.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: Chuck Robey cc: "Eric L. Hernes" , ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: INDEX file In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 01 Aug 1996 17:18:34 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 17:06:02 -0500 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chuck Robey writes: >On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Eric L. Hernes wrote: > >> >> Is this file machine generated? > >It is. Using the Makefile in /usr/ports, make index. > What's the recommeded way to update this for new ports? Wait 'til cron? updates /usr/ports, then run it there, or do I have to check out the whole ports tree? > >----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- >Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data >chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. >9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | >Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD >(301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! >----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > > eric. -- erich@lodgenet.com http://rrnet.com/~erich erich@rrnet.com From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 15:14:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA02913 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 15:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po2.glue.umd.edu (po2.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA02908 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 15:14:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fiber.eng.umd.edu (fiber.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.185]) by po2.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA12200; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 18:14:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by fiber.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA22244; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 18:14:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: fiber.eng.umd.edu: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 18:14:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@fiber.eng.umd.edu To: "Eric L. Hernes" cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: INDEX file In-Reply-To: <199608012206.RAA01231@jake.lodgenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Eric L. Hernes wrote: > Chuck Robey writes: > >On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Eric L. Hernes wrote: > > > >> > >> Is this file machine generated? > > > >It is. Using the Makefile in /usr/ports, make index. > > > > What's the recommeded way to update this for new > ports? Wait 'til cron? updates /usr/ports, then run it > there, or do I have to check out the whole ports tree? Satoshi does it once in while. I don't think it's all that important to keep it right up to date, actually. Users can run it on their own systems to get a current list. When I did it once on my home system (when I was using ctm to keep current on ports, not cvs) it changed the INDEX file, and then ctm told me to get lost as far as further updates went, INDEX being one of the files it checks (when Satoshi rebuilds it). I would not worry about it, myself, since I can see you're updating the Makefiles in the category subdirs, and that's what's used to keep things current. > > > > >----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > >Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data > >chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. > >9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | > >Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD > >(301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! > >----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > > > > > > eric. > -- > erich@lodgenet.com > http://rrnet.com/~erich erich@rrnet.com > > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 15:32:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA03779 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 15:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bacall.lodgenet.com (bacall.lodgenet.com [205.138.147.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA03749 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 15:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by bacall.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA08684; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:31:53 -0500 Received: from garbo.lodgenet.com(204.124.123.250) by bacall via smap (V1.3) id sma008678; Thu Aug 1 17:31:43 1996 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [204.124.120.30]) by garbo.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA21575; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:31:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA02110; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:31:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199608012231.RAA02110@jake.lodgenet.com> X-Authentication-Warning: jake.lodgenet.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: Chuck Robey cc: "Eric L. Hernes" , ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: INDEX file In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 01 Aug 1996 18:14:14 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 17:31:48 -0500 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chuck Robey writes: >> >> What's the recommeded way to update this for new >> ports? Wait 'til cron? updates /usr/ports, then run it >> there, or do I have to check out the whole ports tree? > >Satoshi does it once in while. I don't think it's all that important to >keep it right up to date, actually. Users can run it on their own systems >to get a current list. OK, that's what I wanted to hear ;-) That's the one piece that I never figured out. > >----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- >Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data >chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. >9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | >Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD >(301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! >----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > eric. -- erich@lodgenet.com http://rrnet.com/~erich erich@rrnet.com From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 15:48:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA04452 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 15:48:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po2.glue.umd.edu (po2.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04447 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 15:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fiber.eng.umd.edu (fiber.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.185]) by po2.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA12545; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 18:48:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by fiber.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA22421; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 18:48:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: fiber.eng.umd.edu: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 18:48:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@fiber.eng.umd.edu To: "David E. O'Brien" cc: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Sample Makefile In-Reply-To: <199608012228.PAA11091@relay.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, David E. O'Brien wrote: > > OK, I've gone a long way on the sample Makefile, I think it's ready. If > > you want to take a look, it's in ~chuckr/Makeport, on freefall. > > Can't get to it from ftp. Could you post it? I didn't want to at first, it's 13K in size, but I guess I will. I've pasted it to the end of this file. If you comment on it, please don't repost the whole thing to the list, but I'd like any comments anyone might have. > > thanks, > -- David > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- -------------------cut here (and you'll ruin your monitor!)-------------- |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- | NOTE - This file is unneccesarily complicated by these comments. | Any comments that begins with "|" MUST NOT be in a final port. | They are just here for your enlightenment. | The comments beginning with "#" are either comments recommended for the | actual Makefile or "commented out" possible makefile components. |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- | -->HEADER section | | This section isn't parsed, but we have a common format for the top 6 lines | that we'd appreciate you stay with. Use tabs for spacing, and make the | data line up neatly. |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- # New ports collection makefile for: hello # Version required: 1.3 # Date created: 31 July 1996 |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- | The line following, that begins with "Whom" is the person who did the | original port to FreeBSD, in particular, the person who wrote this Makefile. | Don't worry about the "$\Id" stuff ... it will be automatically filled | in by CVS when it is committed to our repository. Do not put in the | "\", as this is just here to stop RCS from expanding the Id string in | this sample Makefile. |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Whom: Satoshi Asami # # $\Id$ |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- | --> ID section, describes the package itself and main ftp site. | | DISTNAME is always first, followed by PKGNAME (if necessary), CATEGORIES, | and then MASTER_SITES, and optionally EXTRACT_SUFX or DISTFILES] | DISTNAME is the name of the port, with any required version stuff. | It should fix the template '-'. This is used | for setting the work directory name, so the package should unpack to this | name. The DISTNAME is also used to form the first part of the name of | the source package to ftp. | Set PKGNAME only if DISTNAME has uppercase letters, strings like "beta" | (abbreviate to "b"), "patchlevel" (abbreviate to "pl"), doesn't have | version information, or is simply not descriptive. PKGNAME will then | substitute for DISTNAME, giving our package names a more common format. | DISTNAME is intended to match the name the author gave to the port, and | (hopefully) the name of the directory that the source files unpack into. | Set CATEGORIES to the name of the subdirectory of ports that best suits | the port description. You may use more than one value here if it | makes better sense, like "devel x11". | Set MASTER_SITES to the ftp or http string required to fetch the source | files. Don't forget the trailing slash "/". | Set DISTFILES only if you have a conflict between the name of the file | to fetch and the name of the directory created when it is unpacked. | DISTFILES is set to the name of the file to fetch, while the sources | will still be unpacked into DISTNAME. |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- DISTNAME= hello PKGNAME= hello-1.3 CATEGORIES+= misc MASTER_SITES= ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu/ |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Set EXTRACT_SUFX if it is different than the default ".tar.gz". Don't | forget the leading '.'. |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- EXTRACT_SUFX= .tar.Z |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- | PATCH section, used only if the source files require additional patch files | to be fetched and applied. Not needed for most ports. These aren't your | locally generated patches, these are the patches you have to fetch via ftp | and apply before you have the author's intended source file set. |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- PATCH_SITES= ftp://ftp.sra.co.jp/pub/X11/japanese/ PATCHFILES= xdvi-18.patch1.gz xdvi-18.patch2.gz |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- | MAINTAINER; *mandatory*! This is the person (preferably with commit | privileges) who a user can contact for questions and bug reports - this | person should be the porter or someone who can forward questions to the | original porter reasonably promptly. If you really do not want to have your | address here, set it to "ports@FreeBSD.ORG".] | The blank lines before _and_ after MAINAINER are wanted, too! |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- MAINTAINER= markm@FreeBSD.ORG |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- | -->DEPENDENCY section: | | A port must indicate if it relies on any other portion of FreeBSD ports | to work. A port can depend in several different ways: | FETCH_DEPENDS -- depends on this to fetch the port, | Set to "prog:dir", where prog is the name of the executeable (used to | catch the dependency installed in the user's PATH) and dir is the name | of the to do a "make all install" in to get the dependecny installed | if it is not found on the user's PATH. | BUILD_DEPENDS -- depends on this to build the port. | Set to "prog:dir", assign as for FETCH_DEPENDS. | RUN_DEPENDS -- depends on this to actually run the port. | Set to "prog:dir", assign as for FETCH_DEPENDS. | LIB_DEPENDS -- depends on this library, both to build and run. | Set to "lib:dir", where lib is the name of the library to be searched for, | and dir is the name of the directory to go to and do a "make all install" | in if the library is not found. If the library is found, then it won't | be rebuilt, else the port in "dir" will be built and installed. | DEPENDS -- catch-all -- other depends that may occur. |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- RUN_DEPENDS= gs:${PORTSDIR}/print/ghostscript LIB_DEPENDS= Xpm\\.4\\.:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/xpm |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- | -->DEFINITION section | | Various definitions are used in the Makefile, and must be used, so that | users can set their local definitions. As an example, use $(MAKE), not | make. These definitions include: | MAKE make tool name. | GMAKE name of Gnu make tool | PREFIX local ports install directory, default /usr/local (or X11BASE | if USE_X11 is defined). NOTE: don't ever use /usr/local | or /usr/X11R6 as explicit names, this prevents people from | using their local installation customizations. Instead, use $(PREFIX) or $(X11BASE). | X11BASE name of local X11 ports directory, default "/usr/X11R6". | SCRIPTDIR name of your port's scripts directory, default "scripts". | Used for default script (see CUSTOM TARGETS section). | Most ports don't have a scripts directory at all. | FILESDIR name of your port's files directory, default "files", normally | has the md5 file. This is a good place to put any custom | files your port needs. | PKGDIR Used for the package support file (PLIST) and the two | ports description files, COMMENT and DESCR. | PATCHDIR Has files patch-aa, patch-ab, etc. You create these files | for any custom source file patching, and they are automtically | called and applied in order. Patches are applied relative | to the WRKSRC directory, and should be made using the -c or | -u option to diff, so that the filenames to be patched are | visible. Normally, create one patch file for each source | file that is patched. The default is "patches". | XMKMF Name of the X11 xmkmf make tool, default "xmkmf". | EXTRACT_CMD Name of the archive extraction tool, default "tar". |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- | PATCH Creation Notes: | | To make a patch file: | 1) Identify the file you want to change in the port's sources. | 2) Make a copy of this file in the same directory, appending '.orig' to | the filename. Call (for these notes) the file you modify MOD, with | the copy now MOD.orig. | 3) Edit your changes into the source file. | 4) cd to the WRKSRC directory, normally the top level directory created | when the source file is unpacked. | 5) do an ls on your port's patch directory, so that you know the name you | will use for this new patch. | 6) You may use either the -c (context diff) or -u (unified diff) format | when making patches. My example here uses -u. | 7) (Still from the WRKSRC directory) Issue the diff command: | diff -u MOD.orig MOD >PATCHDIR/PATCHNAME. | Make very certain you used a path in the naming of the MOD and MOD.orig | files that is relative to the WRKSRC directory. Don't actually use | PATCHDIR/PATCHNAME, substitute then name of the patch directory (normally | patches) and the name of the patch file you found in step 1, something | like patch-aa. In the diff command line, it's important that you follow | the order you see here (original file first, then patched file). | | Done. |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- | -->MISC section | | For other standard bsd.port.mk variables that do not belong to any of | the above. They should be left out if not used, because default values | apply. | Set WRKDIR if you don't want to use the default ./work directory as | the temporary work directory. This directory, and everything under it, | is destroyed by "make clean". | Set WRKSRC if incompatible with $(WRKDIR)/$(DISTNAME). This is the directory | that the source is supposed to unpack to, and is used also to | (1) cd to before doing the "make" for the source's makefile, and | (2) cd to before applying any patches. All patches sould be made | relative to this directory location. | Set IS_INTERACTIVE to "yes" if the port requires online operation (the port | asks questions during the build). | Set HAS_CONFIGURE to "yes" if it uses a configure script. | Set USE_GMAKE if the port requires the use of Gnu Make. Don't use the | "gmake" command directly, use the $(GMAKE) variable so that the user | can set their Gnu make command as they want to. | Set USE_X11 to "yes" if the port uses X11 directly. This causes the | $(PREFIX) variable to be set to $(X11_BASE) (default /usr/X11R6). | Set USE_IMAKE to "yes" if the port requires a preliminary imake invocation. | Set ALL_TARGET if the source package's makefile wants a target other | than the default "all". | Set REQUIRES_MOTIF to "yes" if the port needs the Motif libs. |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- HAS_CONFIGURE= yes #USE_GMAKE= yes #USE_IMAKE= yes |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- | -->TARGET REMOVAL section | Targets can be disabled by the use of special targets as demonstrated below | for the NO_BUILD target. This may be done for NO_FETCH, NO_EXTRACT, | NO_PATCH, NO_CONFIGURE, NO_BUILD, and NO_INSTALL targets. |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- NO_BUILD= yes #[non-standard variables to be used in the rules below] #MY_FAVORITE_RESPONSE= "yeah, right" |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- | -->CUSTOM TARGETS section | This section is for the specification of custom targets. Both pre-() and | post-() targets are called automatically if specified here. Pre/post- | targets are supplied for fetch, extract, patch, configure, build, and | install. NOTE: scripts named pre-() or post(), if installed in the scripts | directory, are also located and automatically executed, at the indicated | points in the build process. This is ideal for some ports (like tcl/tk | stuff) that may come without any of their own makefiles. |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- pre-fetch: echo "go fetch something, yeah" #post-patch: #need to do something after patch, great #pre-install: #and then some more stuff before installing, wow |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- | If you still don't see how to do something, you can peruse other ports to | see how others have already solved similar problems, or please post porting | questions to "FreeBSD-Ports@FreeBSD.org" |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- | The final line must be ".include " to cause make to read in | the ports main makefile. This is _must_ reading for any aspiring ports | creator (in /usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk). We don't expect you to understand | it all but questions to FreeBSD-ports@FreeBSD.org about bsd.port.mk are | very welcome. |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- .include From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 16:26:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA05620 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 16:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (slip139-92-42-187.ut.nl.ibm.net [139.92.42.187]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA05609; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 16:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.jhs.no_domain (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA00426; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 00:55:09 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199607312255.AAA00426@vector.jhs.no_domain> To: Chuck Robey cc: Narvi , Stefan Esser , andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany Phone: +49.89.268616 Fax: +49.89.2608126 Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Mailer: EXMH 1.6.7, PGP available In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jul 1996 17:20:13 EDT." Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 00:55:08 +0200 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Reference: > From: Chuck Robey > > > > It is not the case actually - there are cases when there is no newer > > file, just a link with the new name to the old file... > > I realize it's a case the the same data, new name, but it's the new name > that I think is important. Those of us that know enough, can simply > rename the darn thing in our ports/distfiles, and I think that we owe > that much to our less sophisticated users, not to inject gratuitous > confusion. This is too much of a hack for it to be institutionalized. I disagree, after sucking megs of identical ghostscript fonts, I don't want to waste my phone bill on further duplicates, at the next minor rev. no. upgrade, & object to any idea of ftp'ing future megs of identical data, just to get a trivial filename update. Those people who aren't clued up can always buy CD-ROMs, with everything pre-configured. I feel zero need to subsidise them with my phone bill; Sorry, but they can go buy a CD-ROM, & the profit can help maintain WC Inc profit levels, to enable WC to subsidise freebsd.org. They (the CD purchasers) are getting a $2000 OS for $40, that's cheap enough, no need to subsidise it further with our personal phone bills ! Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 17:22:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA07599 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kavemachine.magna.com.au (kavemachine.magna.com.au [203.4.215.219]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA07588 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:22:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kaveman@localhost) by kavemachine.magna.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA04417; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 10:28:23 +1000 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 10:28:22 +1000 (EST) From: Julian Jenkins To: FreeBSD ports list Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 In-Reply-To: <7916.838899944@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > If you read the original poster's message again, you'll note that he > was complaining about packages being installed with a fascist umask, > and whether or not pkg_add should set the umask. The ports hack won't > help this case. Those people need only use a script along the lines of: #!/bin/sh OLD_UMASK=`umask` umask 022 pkg_add $* umask $OLD_UMASK I'm sure the forgetfull but knowledgeable among us could set this up. Or this could be given as part of a FAQ. Kaveman kaveman@magna.com.au From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 17:42:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA08196 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA08190; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:42:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Lehey Message-Id: <199608020042.RAA08190@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Emacs 19.31 To: imp@village.org (Warner Losh) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199608011538.JAA25772@rover.village.org> from "Warner Losh" at Aug 1, 96 09:38:29 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > : Yes, I've been using it for some time inexactly this configuration. > : On the other hand, you may be looking in the wrong place: this looks > : like a mismatch between Emacs and the X server (assuming you're using > : the X version) or the terminal emulator (assuming you're not). I run > : XInside to a different machine (BSD/OS), and this may account for the > : differences. > > Interesting data point. I'll have to keep that in mind. > > It's happen on *BOTH* the X server version and identically oddly in > the xterm that I'm running on an NCD X Terminal or xterm that ships > with Solaris 2.5.1 and the xterm that is in X11R6.1 built on Solaris > 2.5.1. The xterms behaved the same displayed on my XFree86 3.2.1 > server and on Solaris' openwindows server (Haven't tried the X server > that gets built as part of X11R6.1). When you say you're working with xterms, do you mean that? Normally, under X you'll let Emacs open its own window. > I don't have any real, working > VT100s to try it on. I think that you can assume that it's not a generic VT100 problem. Greg From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 18:13:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA09523 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 18:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA09515 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 18:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA10177; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 18:12:16 -0700 (PDT) To: Chuck Robey cc: "David E. O'Brien" , FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Sample Makefile In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 01 Aug 1996 18:48:49 EDT." Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 18:12:16 -0700 Message-ID: <10174.838948336@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I didn't want to at first, it's 13K in size, but I guess I will. I've > pasted it to the end of this file. If you comment on it, please don't > repost the whole thing to the list, but I'd like any comments anyone might > have. Hmmm. That's pretty huge. Erm.. As that most worthy tome, "Science Made Stupid", states: "Warty things too big, start over." [Those unfamilar with SMS will simply have to run right out and buy a copy, now won't you?] I think this Makefile is a convincing argument that the human-readable template file approach is a bad idea. What you want instead is a template file that's *program* readable, and a program which uses libdialog or X or whatever your choice of GUI technology is to prompt the user for various things based on which fields it sees as "optional", "non-optional" and so on. There would have to be some very port-specific assumptions for certain fields, such as the *_DEPENDS values which would require that you turn lists like "libz xpm" into "Xpm\\.4\\.:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/xpm z\\.1\\.:${PORTSDIR}/devel/libz" by searching the INDEX. A little additional stickyness, but nothing insoluble. If you design the template file right, I could even see a cgi version of the Makefile generator program. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 18:39:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA10634 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 18:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA10628 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 18:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fiber.eng.umd.edu (fiber.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.185]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA25255; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 21:39:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by fiber.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA22539; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 21:39:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: fiber.eng.umd.edu: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 21:39:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@fiber.eng.umd.edu To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: "David E. O'Brien" , FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Sample Makefile In-Reply-To: <10174.838948336@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I didn't want to at first, it's 13K in size, but I guess I will. I've > > pasted it to the end of this file. If you comment on it, please don't > > repost the whole thing to the list, but I'd like any comments anyone might > > have. > > Hmmm. That's pretty huge. Erm.. As that most worthy tome, "Science > Made Stupid", states: "Warty things too big, start over." > > [Those unfamilar with SMS will simply have to run right out and buy > a copy, now won't you?] > > I think this Makefile is a convincing argument that the human-readable > template file approach is a bad idea. What you want instead is a > template file that's *program* readable, and a program which uses > libdialog or X or whatever your choice of GUI technology is to prompt > the user for various things based on which fields it sees as > "optional", "non-optional" and so on. There would have to be some > very port-specific assumptions for certain fields, such as the > *_DEPENDS values which would require that you turn lists like "libz xpm" > into "Xpm\\.4\\.:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/xpm z\\.1\\.:${PORTSDIR}/devel/libz" > by searching the INDEX. A little additional stickyness, but nothing > insoluble. If you design the template file right, I could even see > a cgi version of the Makefile generator program. :-) That's why I asked at the beginning if this was the direction. I was writing a Makefile for a human to read. You're asking for a machine driven one, essentially useless for a human (one that doesn't know how to write a ports Makefile from the beginning anyways). It should be obvious that I wasn't pointing towards that. Having a template like that is useless without a program generator to build from, which could ask questions and fill things in. I'm not against the idea of someone else doing that, but my own opinion is that such a thing would too radically limit what you could get done in adapting the software of some _not under your control_ to a FreeBSD environment. I don't like that direction, so I will step aside on it. I'm not against someone proving me wrong, it's just my opinion that it's not the most productive direction to take. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 20:13:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA14803 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 20:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seagull.rtd.com (root@seagull.rtd.com [198.102.68.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA14795; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 20:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dgy@localhost) by seagull.rtd.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA13351; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 20:13:18 -0700 (MST) From: Don Yuniskis Message-Id: <199608020313.UAA13351@seagull.rtd.com> Subject: syscons fonts To: freebsd-hackers@freefall.FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD hackers), freebsd-ports@freefall.FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD ports) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 20:13:18 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings! Below is a listing of my /usr/share/syscons/fonts/MISC directory. I have no idea as to the quality of any of these fonts. Nor can I even vouch that they are appropriately named. I dragged them over from my 1.1.5.1 box a while ago. I *know* some of the oddball sizes are waste of clusters (i.e. EGA_alternate-8x11.fnt) byt they come in handy for me when I need to burn a character generator ROM or somesuch... --don total 2228 -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Aug 28 1993 ASCII_standard-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2560 May 10 1995 EGA_alternate-8x10.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2816 May 10 1995 EGA_alternate-8x11.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3072 May 10 1995 EGA_alternate-8x12.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3328 May 10 1995 EGA_alternate-8x13.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2048 May 10 1995 EGA_alternate-8x8.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2304 May 10 1995 EGA_alternate-8x9.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2048 Aug 28 1993 MacIntosh-8x8.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 Macintosh-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Jun 3 1993 Macintosh-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 TeX_math-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Jun 3 1993 TeX_math-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 May 10 1995 VGA_ROM-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 May 10 1995 VGA_ROM-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2048 May 10 1995 VGA_ROM-8x8.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 antique-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Jul 14 1994 antique-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 arabic_draft-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 arabic_kufi-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 arabic_naftih-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 arabic_naskh-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 armenian-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Jun 3 1993 armenian-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2048 Jun 3 1993 armenian-8x8.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Jun 3 1993 artistic-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 backward-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 binary_editor-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 block_dec_ctrls-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 block_hex-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 block_hex_alts-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 block_hex_codes-8x14.fnt 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bongartz_ocr-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Aug 28 1993 bongartz_ocr-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Aug 28 1993 bongartz_oldenglish-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 6144 Aug 28 1993 bongartz_pc-8x24.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Aug 28 1993 bongartz_pc_6-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Aug 28 1993 bongartz_pc_7-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Aug 28 1993 bongartz_polish-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2048 Aug 28 1993 bongartz_roman-8x8.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Aug 28 1993 bongartz_roundbox-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Aug 28 1993 bongartz_roundbox-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Aug 28 1993 bongartz_script-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2560 Aug 28 1993 bongartz_sideways-8x10.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2048 Aug 28 1993 bongartz_special-8x8.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Aug 28 1993 bongartz_thin_sanserif-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Aug 28 1993 bongartz_thin_sanserif-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2048 Aug 28 1993 bongartz_thin_sanserif-8x8.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Jul 14 1994 broadway-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Aug 28 1993 broadway_A-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2560 Aug 28 1993 cafe-8x10.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3072 Aug 28 1993 cafe-8x12.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Jul 14 1994 courier-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 cp111-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Jun 3 1993 cp111-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4864 Jun 3 1993 cp111-8x19.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2048 Jun 3 1993 cp111-8x8.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 cp112-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Jun 3 1993 cp112-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4864 Jun 3 1993 cp112-8x19.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2048 Jun 3 1993 cp112-8x8.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 cp113-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Jun 3 1993 cp113-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4864 Jun 3 1993 cp113-8x19.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2048 Jun 3 1993 cp113-8x8.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jan 18 1996 cp437-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Jan 18 1996 cp437-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin 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cp865-8x19.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2048 Jan 18 1996 cp865-8x8.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jan 18 1996 cp866-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Jan 18 1996 cp866-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2048 Jan 18 1996 cp866-8x8.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 cp880-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Jun 3 1993 cp880-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2048 Jun 3 1993 cp880-8x8.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 cp881-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Jun 3 1993 cp881-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2048 Jun 3 1993 cp881-8x8.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 cp882-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Jun 3 1993 cp882-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2048 Jun 3 1993 cp882-8x8.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 cp883-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Jun 3 1993 cp883-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2048 Jun 3 1993 cp883-8x8.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 cp884-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Jun 3 1993 cp884-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2048 Jun 3 1993 cp884-8x8.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 cp885-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Jun 3 1993 cp885-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2048 Jun 3 1993 cp885-8x8.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 cyrillic-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 cyrillic_A-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Jun 3 1993 cyrillic_A-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2048 Jun 3 1993 cyrillic_A-8x8.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 cyrillic_B-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Jun 3 1993 cyrillic_B-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2048 Jun 3 1993 cyrillic_B-8x8.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 cyrillic_C-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Jun 3 1993 cyrillic_C-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2048 Jun 3 1993 cyrillic_C-8x8.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Jun 3 1993 decorative-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 3584 Jun 3 1993 english_arabic_persian_urdu-8x14.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 4096 Jun 3 1993 english_arabic_persian_urdu-8x16.fnt -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 2048 Jun 3 1993 english_arabic_persian_urdu-8x8.fnt 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root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA16808 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 20:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA16802 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 20:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA10602; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 20:59:08 -0700 (PDT) To: Chuck Robey cc: "David E. O'Brien" , FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Sample Makefile In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 01 Aug 1996 21:39:30 EDT." Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 20:59:08 -0700 Message-ID: <10600.838958348@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > That's why I asked at the beginning if this was the direction. I was > writing a Makefile for a human to read. You're asking for a machine > driven one, essentially useless for a human (one that doesn't know how to > write a ports Makefile from the beginning anyways). It should be obvious > that I wasn't pointing towards that. Yes, it was, and I wasn't really sure whether or not the human Makefile would work as a concept until I saw the size of yours. The sheer amount of reading one would have to do in order to use it in the full construction of a port is rather self-defeating if you're trying to make the process quicker and less knowledge intensive. > the idea of someone else doing that, but my own opinion is that such a > thing would too radically limit what you could get done in adapting the > software of some _not under your control_ to a FreeBSD environment. I Huh? The ports collection is *all about* adapting software not under your control to a FreeBSD environment! ;-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 22:54:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA21512 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 22:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA21507 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 22:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA05493; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 01:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA24441; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 01:55:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 01:55:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Chuck Robey cc: "David E. O'Brien" , FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Sample Makefile In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > I didn't want to at first, it's 13K in size, but I guess I will. I've > pasted it to the end of this file. If you comment on it, please don't > repost the whole thing to the list, but I'd like any comments anyone might > have. Ok. I'll do that. > -------------------cut here (and you'll ruin your monitor!)-------------- I'm more worried about what it'd do to my hdd, actually. > |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > | NOTE - This file is unneccesarily complicated by these comments. > | Any comments that begins with "|" MUST NOT be in a final port. > | They are just here for your enlightenment. I'm often critisized for not being particularly tactful, or another such silly thing, so take this at considerably less than face value. I'm not sure I see the advantage of this over the sample makefile already part of porting.sgml. It doesn't serve to document anything new, and only complicates the example. Doing my second port right now, I can say that I think this example would have repulsed me. The current one seemed to do a great job. What I would find more helpful is more examples with regards to "real-life" porting problems. For example, an expanded "Do's and Don'ts" section, or suggestions on when to define a port as interactive, and when to simply make gimmee-type decisions (wrt to compilation-options). > | LIB_DEPENDS -- depends on this library, both to build and run. > | Set to "lib:dir", where lib is the name of the library to be searched for, > | and dir is the name of the directory to go to and do a "make all install" > | in if the library is not found. If the library is found, then it won't > | be rebuilt, else the port in "dir" will be built and installed. Unless this has changed, you should specify "shared" libraries, here. Other libraries have to be checked, I believe, either through over-riding some depends targets (yuck) or making a pre-build: target. > |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > | PATCH Creation Notes: > | > | To make a patch file: To balance my earlier comment (and to continue being frank as opposed to tactful), I think that this is Good and can be quite useful. I don't think it belongs in a sample Makefile, though... For the rest of it, my original comment applies, though. :) -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-ports Thu Aug 1 23:18:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA22299 for ports-outgoing; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 23:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA22294 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 23:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA06395; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 02:18:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA26987; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 02:19:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 02:19:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Chuck Robey , "David E. O'Brien" , FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Sample Makefile In-Reply-To: <10600.838958348@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > sheer amount of reading one would have to do in order to use it in the > full construction of a port is rather self-defeating if you're trying > to make the process quicker and less knowledge intensive. I consider myself a relatively naive user and I don't think I find porting to be too knowledge intensive. I think, if you wanted really wanted to make it less knowledge-intensive it'd be necessary to modify bsd.port.mk to handle a much larger myriad of situations. From extracting shar files to automatically installing manpages. FWIW, I thought the searching-bsd.port.mk-to-see-what-do-extract-is-doing part (and co.) was fun. -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 2 01:00:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA25731 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 01:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wasted.bandwidth.org (root@wasted.bandwidth.org [169.207.10.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA25722 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 01:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (desmo@localhost) by wasted.bandwidth.org (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA20659 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 02:58:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 02:58:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Kenneth J Monville X-Sender: desmo@wasted To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: netris-0.4 port Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have uploaded my port for netris-0.4. It is a simple head to head tetris game played over a network. Nice for wasting time with your friends. :-P Ken ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ken Monville - desmo@bandwidth.org - http://www.bandwidth.org/~desmo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 2 01:43:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA27465 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 01:43:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA27456 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 01:43:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA21789; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 11:45:34 +0300 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 11:45:33 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: Julian Jenkins cc: FreeBSD ports list Subject: Re: ports/print/ghostscript4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Julian Jenkins wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > If you read the original poster's message again, you'll note that he > > was complaining about packages being installed with a fascist umask, > > and whether or not pkg_add should set the umask. The ports hack won't > > help this case. > > Those people need only use a script along the lines of: > > #!/bin/sh > OLD_UMASK=`umask` > umask 022 > pkg_add $* > umask $OLD_UMASK A good script... It could perhaps become upkg_add (as in user friendly pkg_add or umask setting pkg_add. Sander > > > I'm sure the forgetfull but knowledgeable among us could set this up. Or > this could be given as part of a FAQ. > > Kaveman > kaveman@magna.com.au > From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 2 04:50:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA04017 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 04:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po2.glue.umd.edu (po2.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA04012 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 04:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skipper.eng.umd.edu (skipper.eng.umd.edu [129.2.103.24]) by po2.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA16147; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 07:50:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by skipper.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA05621; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 07:50:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: skipper.eng.umd.edu: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 07:50:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@skipper.eng.umd.edu To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: "David E. O'Brien" , FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Sample Makefile In-Reply-To: <10600.838958348@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > That's why I asked at the beginning if this was the direction. I was > > writing a Makefile for a human to read. You're asking for a machine > > driven one, essentially useless for a human (one that doesn't know how to > > write a ports Makefile from the beginning anyways). It should be obvious > > that I wasn't pointing towards that. > > Yes, it was, and I wasn't really sure whether or not the human > Makefile would work as a concept until I saw the size of yours. The > sheer amount of reading one would have to do in order to use it in the > full construction of a port is rather self-defeating if you're trying > to make the process quicker and less knowledge intensive. > > > the idea of someone else doing that, but my own opinion is that such a > > thing would too radically limit what you could get done in adapting the > > software of some _not under your control_ to a FreeBSD environment. I > > Huh? The ports collection is *all about* adapting software not under > your control to a FreeBSD environment! ;-) Maybe I misunderstood you, but I _think_ you're talking about mechanizing the production of ports, or at least the Makefile, right? The amazing (to me, I'm a fan of bsd.port.mk) flexibility of ports would be limited if a tool tried to get me to make Makefiles by answering questions. I have similarly dim views of most expert systems I've seen or read about. I'm more in favor of educating the humans. That's what you were heading towards, a Makefile that had a spot for everything, and could be filled in using a point/click tool, right? Or did I misread you? > > Jordan > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 2 04:55:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA04138 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 04:55:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po2.glue.umd.edu (po2.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA04133 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 04:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skipper.eng.umd.edu (skipper.eng.umd.edu [129.2.103.24]) by po2.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA16177; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 07:55:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by skipper.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA05580; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 07:55:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: skipper.eng.umd.edu: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 07:55:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@skipper.eng.umd.edu To: Tim Vanderhoek cc: "David E. O'Brien" , FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Sample Makefile In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > > > I didn't want to at first, it's 13K in size, but I guess I will. I've > > pasted it to the end of this file. If you comment on it, please don't > > repost the whole thing to the list, but I'd like any comments anyone might > > have. > > Ok. I'll do that. > > > > -------------------cut here (and you'll ruin your monitor!)-------------- > > I'm more worried about what it'd do to my hdd, actually. > > > > |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > | NOTE - This file is unneccesarily complicated by these comments. > > | Any comments that begins with "|" MUST NOT be in a final port. > > | They are just here for your enlightenment. > > I'm often critisized for not being particularly tactful, or another such > silly thing, so take this at considerably less than face value. > > I'm not sure I see the advantage of this over the sample makefile already > part of porting.sgml. It doesn't serve to document anything new, and > only complicates the example. Doing my second port right now, I can say > that I think this example would have repulsed me. The current one seemed > to do a great job. What I would find more helpful is more examples with > regards to "real-life" porting problems. For example, an expanded "Do's > and Don'ts" section, or suggestions on when to define a port as > interactive, and when to simply make gimmee-type decisions (wrt to > compilation-options). OK, Jordan was making the same point, maybe it's too complicated. > > > > | LIB_DEPENDS -- depends on this library, both to build and run. > > | Set to "lib:dir", where lib is the name of the library to be searched for, > > | and dir is the name of the directory to go to and do a "make all install" > > | in if the library is not found. If the library is found, then it won't > > | be rebuilt, else the port in "dir" will be built and installed. > > Unless this has changed, you should specify "shared" libraries, here. > Other libraries have to be checked, I believe, either through over-riding > some depends targets (yuck) or making a pre-build: target. > > > > |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > | PATCH Creation Notes: > > | > > | To make a patch file: > > To balance my earlier comment (and to continue being frank as opposed to > tactful), I think that this is Good and can be quite useful. I don't > think it belongs in a sample Makefile, though... > > For the rest of it, my original comment applies, though. :) > > > -- > Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! > tIM...HOEk > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 2 05:13:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA04659 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 05:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA04653 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 05:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id FAA19232; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 05:11:50 -0700 (PDT) To: Chuck Robey cc: "David E. O'Brien" , FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Sample Makefile In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 02 Aug 1996 07:50:00 EDT." Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 05:11:50 -0700 Message-ID: <19230.838987910@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > That's what you were heading towards, a Makefile that had a spot for > everything, and could be filled in using a point/click tool, right? Or > did I misread you? That's basically it, though data driven so that you could update your template easily whenever you added new variables and such. I think the only way of really proving the efficacy of this design would be to implement a proof-of-concept.. Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 2 07:30:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA09968 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 07:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grumble.grondar.za (root@grumble.grondar.za [196.7.18.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA09741 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 07:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grumble.grondar.za (mark@localhost.grondar.za [127.0.0.1]) by grumble.grondar.za (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA15279 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 16:27:08 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199608021427.QAA15279@grumble.grondar.za> To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Automatic ports Makefile generator? Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 16:27:07 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi I hit DELETE too quickly, so I've lost the message to REPLY to. Jordan, you mentioned a "proof-of-concept"? I have had an idea for a while that may help newbies. It is a automatic version of the way I make ports. \begin{dream} grumble $ tar xzf hello-1.3.tar.gz grumble $ cd hello-1.3 grumble $ grumble $ cd .. grumble $ makeport Makeport - 0.1-ALPHA what is the name of your port? hello-1.3 directory hello-1.3 found OK file hello-1.3.tar.gz found OK untarrring hello-1.3.tar.gz............OK creating diff.....OK removing original sources. Q&A Time! Does your port need GNU make? n Does your port need imake? n Does your port have its own "configure" script? y What is it called? (hit ENTER) for "configure" Does the configure script need any command line arguments? y What are they? --foo --bar does your port depend on any other software? y what is its package name? foo-1.0 ERROR foo-1.0 not found! does your port depend on any other software? n etc... OK - generating Makefile OK - making directories OK - making checksum OK - done! Please test this port, and if all seems ok, submit it! As this is ALPHA softtware, you are well advised not to trust it, and read the generated files! \end{dream} I could come up with a proof of concept in a few days, if anyone is interested. M -- Mark Murray 46 Harvey Rd, Claremont, Cape Town 7700, South Africa +27 21 61-3768 GMT+0200 Finger mark@grondar.za for PGP key From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 2 07:56:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA11767 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 07:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA11761 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 07:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA19558; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 07:54:17 -0700 (PDT) To: Mark Murray cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Automatic ports Makefile generator? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 02 Aug 1996 16:27:07 +0200." <199608021427.QAA15279@grumble.grondar.za> Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 07:54:17 -0700 Message-ID: <19556.838997657@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > grumble $ makeport > Makeport - 0.1-ALPHA > what is the name of your port? hello-1.3 > directory hello-1.3 found OK > file hello-1.3.tar.gz found OK > untarrring hello-1.3.tar.gz............OK > creating diff.....OK > removing original sources. > > Q&A Time! > > Does your port need GNU make? n > Does your port need imake? n > Does your port have its own "configure" script? y > ... That sounds pretty reasonable, though again I'd caution you against making `makeport' a monolithic utility which "knows" which questions to ask and rather design it as a fairly intelligent "ports variable description file" and a library of functions for dealing with it. Then you can write this Q&A sequence as a series of questions, as you show above, or you can later migrate to some much fancier Tk based thingie. Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 2 09:10:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA14623 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inga.augusta.de (root@inga.augusta.de [193.175.23.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA14614 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rabbit by inga.augusta.de with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0umMjl-004d0cC; Fri, 2 Aug 96 18:06 MET DST Received: by rabbit.augusta.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0umM5S-0009zuC; Fri, 2 Aug 96 17:24 MET DST Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Aug 96 17:24 MET DST X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.6 Organization: Privat Site running FreeBSD References: <894.838710277@time.cdrom.com> From: shanee@rabbit.augusta.de (Andreas Kohout) Subject: Re: Port of TkCVS & Tkdiff X-Original-Newsgroups: muc.lists.freebsd.ports In-Reply-To: To: ports@freebsd.org Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article , narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee (Narvi) writes: > > 3. It's too bad this is against tk4.0 and not 4.1. :-( > > I'll try to see if it works with tk4.1 and repost. sorry, your tkcvs is out of date, 6.0 is released. I made a port by myself, don´t know that you did one. Sorry again. I send my port to Chuck ... -- Greeting, Andy running FreeBSD-current --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 2 09:34:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA15425 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sequent.kiae.su (sequent.kiae.su [193.125.152.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA15420 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sequent.kiae.su id AA17890 (5.65.kiae-2 ); Fri, 2 Aug 1996 20:23:35 +0400 Received: by sequent.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Fri, 2 Aug 96 20:23:33 +0400 Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.ru (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA00913; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 20:20:52 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199608021620.UAA00913@nagual.ru> Subject: Re: Automatic ports Makefile generator? To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 20:20:52 +0400 (MSD) Cc: mark@grondar.za, ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19556.838997657@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Aug 2, 96 07:54:17 am" From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (Andrey A. Chernov) Organization: self X-Class: Fast X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > grumble $ makeport > > Makeport - 0.1-ALPHA > > what is the name of your port? hello-1.3 > > directory hello-1.3 found OK > > file hello-1.3.tar.gz found OK > > untarrring hello-1.3.tar.gz............OK > > creating diff.....OK > > removing original sources. > > > > Q&A Time! > > > > Does your port need GNU make? n > > Does your port need imake? n > > Does your port have its own "configure" script? y > > ... > > That sounds pretty reasonable, though again I'd caution you against > making `makeport' a monolithic utility which "knows" which questions > to ask and rather design it as a fairly intelligent "ports variable > description file" and a library of functions for dealing with it. > Then you can write this Q&A sequence as a series of questions, as you > show above, or you can later migrate to some much fancier Tk based > thingie. > > Jordan Jordan, don't be so optimistic... As many ports maintainer I can say, that only basic Makefile template can be autogenerated a bit, patch/configure/script tweaks are real pain in the ass. But... Generating basic Makefile template is void, in real practice I just simple copy another Makefile... -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 2 09:39:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA15670 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA15665 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:39:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA02803 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 10:39:43 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199608021639.KAA02803@rover.village.org> To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Automatic port generation Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 10:39:42 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk jkh> That sounds pretty reasonable, though again I'd caution you jkh> against making `makeport' a monolithic utility which "knows" jkh> which questions to ask and rather design it as a fairly jkh> intelligent "ports variable description file" and a library of jkh> functions for dealing with it. Then you can write this Q&A jkh> sequence as a series of questions, as you show above, or you can jkh> later migrate to some much fancier Tk based thingie. While I agree with this approach, in general, I'd rather have a quick and dirty hack for a makeports with continuing work to make it elegant than have to wait for the elegant makeports down the line. Warner From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 2 09:46:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA15903 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA15898 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA20880; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:45:48 -0700 (PDT) To: Warner Losh cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Automatic port generation In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 02 Aug 1996 10:39:42 MDT." <199608021639.KAA02803@rover.village.org> Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 09:45:48 -0700 Message-ID: <20878.839004348@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > While I agree with this approach, in general, I'd rather have a quick > and dirty hack for a makeports with continuing work to make it elegant > than have to wait for the elegant makeports down the line. Well, I never said that a "prototype" was out of the question.. ;) Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 2 09:48:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA15994 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:48:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA15937 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rover.village.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA02782; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 10:37:19 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199608021637.KAA02782@rover.village.org> To: Mark Murray Subject: Re: Automatic ports Makefile generator? Cc: ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 02 Aug 1996 16:27:07 +0200 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 10:37:19 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk : OK - generating Makefile : OK - making directories : OK - making checksum Need to have automatic generation of patches as well :-) : OK - done! :[...] : I could come up with a proof of concept in a few days, if anyone : is interested. Yes. I'd be keen on trying it out! Warner From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 2 09:59:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA16360 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA16355 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from modem.eng.umd.edu (modem.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.187]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02026; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 12:59:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by modem.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA18184; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 12:59:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: modem.eng.umd.edu: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 12:59:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@modem.eng.umd.edu To: Andreas Kohout cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port of TkCVS & Tkdiff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Andreas Kohout wrote: > In article , > narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee (Narvi) writes: > > > > 3. It's too bad this is against tk4.0 and not 4.1. :-( > > > > I'll try to see if it works with tk4.1 and repost. > > sorry, your tkcvs is out of date, 6.0 is released. > > I made a port by myself, don4t know that you did one. Sorry again. > > I send my port to Chuck ... And I'm going to commit it. Geeze, Narvi does a port and it lasts less than a week. I hope you don't feel bad about that, Narvi. I wouldn't even have accepted this from Andreas, except he started working on it at about the same time (I would have told him to ask you to do it!) The timing is _so_ close this time ... > > -- > Greeting, Andy > running FreeBSD-current > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 2 10:11:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA17079 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 10:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (root@haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA17074 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 10:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from woodlawn.uchicago.edu (root@woodlawn.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.9]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA23961; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 12:07:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from woodlawn.uchicago.edu (csdayton@localhost.uchicago.edu [127.0.0.1]) by woodlawn.uchicago.edu (8.7.1/8.7.2) with ESMTP id MAA04372; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 12:09:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199608021709.MAA04372@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> In-reply-to: Warner Losh's message of Fri, 02 Aug 1996 10:37:19 -0600 To: Warner Losh cc: ports@freebsd.org, Mark Murray Subject: Re: Automatic ports Makefile generator? Reply-To: csdayton@midway.uchicago.edu References: <199608021637.KAA02782@rover.village.org> Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 12:09:47 CDT From: Soren Dayton Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > : OK - generating Makefile > : OK - making directories > : OK - making checksum > > Need to have automatic generation of patches as well :-) This is what I am concerned about. Patches seem to be applied in blocks that do not necessarily map nicely onto the files that they change. FOr example, there might be one diff that just gzips the manpages in the Makefile. Until the world converts to BSD 4.4 make, this is going to be a conceptually different diff than the one that prevents the core dump due to something else. Generating the diffs (patch-aa!) would just be wrong. This requires much more cleverness I think > : OK - done! > :[...] > : I could come up with a proof of concept in a few days, if anyone > : is interested. > > Yes. I'd be keen on trying it out! will it generate the list of files? That is the most frustrating thing for me for big packages. something that reads the make output and figures out where the files went would be marvelous. Soren From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 2 12:55:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA25912 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 12:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25905 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 12:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.5/8.6.9) id MAA07768; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 12:55:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 12:55:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199608021955.MAA07768@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: ache@nagual.ru CC: jkh@time.cdrom.com, mark@grondar.za, ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199608021620.UAA00913@nagual.ru> (ache@nagual.ru) Subject: Re: Automatic ports Makefile generator? From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * Jordan, don't be so optimistic... As many ports maintainer I can say, * that only basic Makefile template can be autogenerated a bit, * patch/configure/script tweaks are real pain in the ass. * But... Generating basic Makefile template is void, in real practice * I just simple copy another Makefile... I'm even more pessimistic than you. My guess is that a Makefile generating script is going to be the ports' equivalent of computerized natural language translation -- i.e., unusable without careful checking by a well-experienced human. Also, I find a script that asks a hundred questions extremely annoying. Don't people find using an editor to edit out comments and questions easier? (Ok, maybe it's only me.) Maybe we should just put a template, that lists all possible variables, and let people fill it up. No comments to scare them off, just a reference to the handbook. Speaking of the handbook, I'm planning to enhance the sample Makefile to include links to descriptions of variables. An alphabetical index of common variables will also be added. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 2 13:27:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA28140 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 13:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA28135 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 13:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.5/8.6.9) id NAA07816; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 13:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 13:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199608022024.NAA07816@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: csdayton@midway.uchicago.edu CC: imp@village.org, ports@freebsd.org, mark@grondar.za In-reply-to: <199608021709.MAA04372@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> (message from Soren Dayton on Fri, 02 Aug 1996 12:09:47 CDT) Subject: Re: Automatic ports Makefile generator? From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * This is what I am concerned about. Patches seem to be applied in * blocks that do not necessarily map nicely onto the files that they change. Yes, everything will be lumped into one big "patch-aa" or it will be one file per patchfile. Either way it loses the nice logical separation that many ports have ("patch-aa for Makefile tweaks, patch-ab for malloc.h changes, etc."). Also, I'd hate to have people send in ports with mega-patches that change Makefile when the port uses Imakefile, configure when it can be done by a 2-line patch and autoconf, etc. The "generator" should be real smart to be able to do this. * will it generate the list of files? That is the most frustrating thing * for me for big packages. something that reads the make output and * figures out where the files went would be marvelous. I've heard someone wrote a tool to do this (on HP-UX I believe) a "find /usr/local | touch; install; find -newer" kind of thing to at least get the list correctly. With our implementation of symbolic links, I don't know how well it will work for us, though. Hmm, maybe a diff of locate database? Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 3 00:14:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA06994 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 00:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA06986; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 00:14:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 00:14:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199608030714.AAA06986@freefall.freebsd.org> To: asami Subject: Motif back on thud Cc: ports@freebsd.org Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This time we've used X Inside's Motif 2.0 instead of MOO-TIFF. Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 3 01:34:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA11174 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 01:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from baloon.mimi.com (sjx-ca39-10.ix.netcom.com [205.187.203.74]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA11164 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 01:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by baloon.mimi.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id BAA06612; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 01:34:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 01:34:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199608030834.BAA06612@baloon.mimi.com> To: jkh@freefall.freebsd.org CC: ports@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199608030714.AAA06986@freefall.freebsd.org> (jkh@freefall.freebsd.org) Subject: Re: Motif back on thud From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * This time we've used X Inside's Motif 2.0 instead of MOO-TIFF. Thanks, compiling xmfract and xephem now! :) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 3 02:49:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA18286 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 02:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA18262 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 02:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA29848; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 12:54:07 +0300 Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 12:54:06 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: Chuck Robey cc: Andreas Kohout , ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port of TkCVS & Tkdiff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Andreas Kohout wrote: > > > In article , > > narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee (Narvi) writes: > > > > > > 3. It's too bad this is against tk4.0 and not 4.1. :-( > > > > > > I'll try to see if it works with tk4.1 and repost. > > > > sorry, your tkcvs is out of date, 6.0 is released. > > > > I made a port by myself, don4t know that you did one. Sorry again. > > > > I send my port to Chuck ... > > And I'm going to commit it. Geeze, Narvi does a port and it lasts less That's OK. > than a week. I hope you don't feel bad about that, Narvi. I wouldn't > even have accepted this from Andreas, except he started working on it at > about the same time (I would have told him to ask you to do it!) The > timing is _so_ close this time ... It would have lasted longer if FreeBSD.org had a mail forwarder in Europe for about three weeks - I have over 20 mail responses still in my INBOX sent back after having timed out after 5 days. Anyways, I could not even have updated the port myself as the version number on the tkcvs file on ftp.neosoft.com (the alcatel mirror) still reads 6.0a1. Anyways, I am going to upload some other frontends in a couple of days - anyone working on Tix, tk file browser and mail frontends please let me know - no need to waste time. Sander > > > > > -- > > Greeting, Andy > > running FreeBSD-current > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data > chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. > 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | > Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD > (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > > From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 3 03:59:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA23490 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 03:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA23473 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 03:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA00445; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 14:03:49 +0300 Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 14:03:49 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port of TkCVS & Tkdiff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 3 Aug 1996, Narvi wrote: > > [snip] > Anyways, I am going to upload some other frontends in a couple of days - > anyone working on Tix, tk file browser and mail frontends please let me > know - no need to waste time. I meant time in general, not the time of someone in particular. It could be spent on other ports. Sander From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 3 05:26:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA02944 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 05:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.eu.org [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA02931 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 05:26:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.eu.org [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA25772; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 14:25:39 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id OAA09179; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 14:25:15 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.Alpha.7/keltia-uucp-2.9) id NAA02786; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 13:47:15 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199608031147.NAA02786@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 13:47:15 +0200 From: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) To: narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee (Narvi) Cc: chuckr@glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey), shanee@rabbit.augusta.de (Andreas Kohout), ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port of TkCVS & Tkdiff In-Reply-To: ; from Narvi on Aug 3, 1996 12:54:06 +0300 References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.38 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Narvi: > It would have lasted longer if FreeBSD.org had a mail forwarder in Europe > for about three weeks - I have over 20 mail responses still in my INBOX > sent back after having timed out after 5 days. Anyways, I could not even There is a mail relay in Europe. Several in fact. Look in the DNS for mail-relay.de.freebsd.org, mail-relay.fr.freebsd.org and so on. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #16: Sun Jul 21 13:26:53 MET DST 1996 From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 3 05:29:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA03350 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 05:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA03321 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 05:29:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA01035; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 15:35:02 +0300 Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 15:35:01 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: Ollivier Robert cc: Chuck Robey , Andreas Kohout , ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port of TkCVS & Tkdiff In-Reply-To: <199608031147.NAA02786@keltia.freenix.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 3 Aug 1996, Ollivier Robert wrote: > According to Narvi: > > It would have lasted longer if FreeBSD.org had a mail forwarder in Europe > > for about three weeks - I have over 20 mail responses still in my INBOX > > sent back after having timed out after 5 days. Anyways, I could not even > > There is a mail relay in Europe. Several in fact. Look in the DNS for > mail-relay.de.freebsd.org, mail-relay.fr.freebsd.org and so on. Neither of these were found by my mailer - no difference. It just timed out trying to contact ref.tfs.com or somesuch. Dig didn't show any MX sites for freebsd.org other than in America - so it was screwed-up a bit. Sander > > -- > Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr > FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #16: Sun Jul 21 13:26:53 MET DST 1996 > From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 3 05:38:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA03987 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 05:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA03980 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 05:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id FAA03239; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 05:35:55 -0700 (PDT) To: Narvi cc: Ollivier Robert , Chuck Robey , Andreas Kohout , ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port of TkCVS & Tkdiff In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 03 Aug 1996 15:35:01 +0300." Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 05:35:54 -0700 Message-ID: <3237.839075754@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > There is a mail relay in Europe. Several in fact. Look in the DNS for > > mail-relay.de.freebsd.org, mail-relay.fr.freebsd.org and so on. > > Neither of these were found by my mailer - no difference. It just timed > out trying to contact ref.tfs.com or somesuch. Dig didn't show any MX > sites for freebsd.org other than in America - so it was screwed-up a bit. Huh? What are you talking about? Why would a *relay* be contacted by your mailer directly? :-) The relays are known only to freefall, which intelligently redistributes outgoing mail accordingly. Your machie still has to be able to get to freefall or one of its backup MX hosts. Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 3 05:40:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA04130 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 05:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA04118 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 05:40:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA01083; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 15:45:27 +0300 Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 15:45:26 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Ollivier Robert , ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port of TkCVS & Tkdiff In-Reply-To: <3237.839075754@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk CC: list trimmed a bit On Sat, 3 Aug 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > There is a mail relay in Europe. Several in fact. Look in the DNS for > > > mail-relay.de.freebsd.org, mail-relay.fr.freebsd.org and so on. > > > > Neither of these were found by my mailer - no difference. It just timed > > out trying to contact ref.tfs.com or somesuch. Dig didn't show any MX > > sites for freebsd.org other than in America - so it was screwed-up a bit. > > Huh? What are you talking about? Why would a *relay* be contacted by > your mailer directly? :-) The relays are known only to freefall, which > intelligently redistributes outgoing mail accordingly. Your machie > still has to be able to get to freefall or one of its backup MX hosts. > That's what the problem was - it wasn't, all the (then visible, haven't checked later) MX hosts were in US and timed miserably out. Sander > Jordan > From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 3 05:47:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA04572 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 05:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA04567 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 05:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id FAA04710; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 05:46:18 -0700 (PDT) To: Narvi cc: Ollivier Robert , ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port of TkCVS & Tkdiff In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 03 Aug 1996 15:45:26 +0300." Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 05:46:18 -0700 Message-ID: <4708.839076378@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > That's what the problem was - it wasn't, all the (then visible, haven't > checked later) MX hosts were in US and timed miserably out. Then why were you calling for additional relays? ;-) It sounds like what you want are some backup MX hosts for freefall in Europe, a rather different category of animal. I don't see why we couldn't do this, the question being simply: "What's the best (inter-euro) connected resource we have and will they be willing to do this for us?" If someone in Europe would like to run this information down, that'd certainly be a good start. Jordan From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 3 06:11:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA06520 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 06:11:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA06509 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 06:11:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA01261; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 16:16:43 +0300 Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 16:16:43 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Ollivier Robert , ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port of TkCVS & Tkdiff In-Reply-To: <4708.839076378@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 3 Aug 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > That's what the problem was - it wasn't, all the (then visible, haven't > > checked later) MX hosts were in US and timed miserably out. > > Then why were you calling for additional relays? ;-) It sounds like > what you want are some backup MX hosts for freefall in Europe, a > rather different category of animal. I don't see why we couldn't do > this, the question being simply: "What's the best (inter-euro) > connected resource we have and will they be willing to do this for > us?" If someone in Europe would like to run this information down, > that'd certainly be a good start. I didn't actually ask about mail relays - as I just checked, I lamented that there were no mail forwarders in Europe for freebsd.org, meaning hosts which would forward mail *to* freebsd.org... Sorry for the confusion caused by unclear wording. Sander > > Jordan > From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 3 08:27:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA15972 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 08:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA15956 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 08:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA01808; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 18:32:37 +0300 Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 18:32:36 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: FreeBSD ports Subject: Port of tkcron Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HI! Here comes my second port - tkcron-2.12, something close to a frontend to crontab. Enjoy. 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Here is port of yet another frontend program in tcl/tk - tktex, meant to help viewing/printing .tex and .dvi files. If found useful, it could be commited to the FreeBSD ports tree. 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Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would like to make a proposal for a new bsd.port.mk dependency variable, EXTRACT_DEPENDS. 1) Syntax - like the other depends variables, a prog:dir pair 2) For what - to enable the building of missing archiver utility required to actually unpack the distribution files (gunshar, unzip, zoo, etc.) 3) Why - in the present, such dependencies should evidently go to FETCH_DEPENDS, as BUILD_DEPENDS is already too late. 4) How: By changing bsd.port.mk, most probably - sorry, I could not figure it out, so no diff this time Sander From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 3 14:00:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA14688 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 14:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA14681 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 14:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id OAA06978 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 14:00:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "David E. O'Brien" Message-Id: <199608032100.OAA06978@relay.nuxi.com> Subject: lsof port survey To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (FreeBSD ports list) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 14:00:40 -0700 (PDT) X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've done a port of lsof. This can be built such that any user can list all the open files, or such that a user can only see their own open files (for privacy and security purposes). I'm leaning on using the security option as a default. Opinions? -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu) From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 3 14:24:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA15958 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 14:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grumble.grondar.za (root@grumble.grondar.za [196.7.18.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA15952 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 14:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grumble.grondar.za (mark@localhost.grondar.za [127.0.0.1]) by grumble.grondar.za (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA02032; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 23:24:04 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199608032124.XAA02032@grumble.grondar.za> To: "David E. O'Brien" cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (FreeBSD ports list) Subject: Re: lsof port survey Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 23:24:02 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "David E. O'Brien" wrote: > I've done a port of lsof. This can be built such that any user can list > all the open files, or such that a user can only see their own open files > (for privacy and security purposes). > > I'm leaning on using the security option as a default. Opinions? Can it be done so only root can see all open files? M -- Mark Murray 46 Harvey Rd, Claremont, Cape Town 7700, South Africa +27 21 61-3768 GMT+0200 Finger mark@grondar.za for PGP key From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Aug 3 21:31:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA10660 for ports-outgoing; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 21:31:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.eu.org [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA10646 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 21:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.eu.org [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA26563; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 06:31:42 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id GAA17628; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 06:31:22 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.Alpha.7/keltia-uucp-2.9) id BAA16800; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 01:28:25 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199608032328.BAA16800@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 01:28:25 +0200 From: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) To: obrien@Nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu (David E. O'Brien) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (FreeBSD ports list) Subject: Re: lsof port survey In-Reply-To: <199608032100.OAA06978@relay.nuxi.com>; from David E. O'Brien on Aug 3, 1996 14:00:40 -0700 References: <199608032100.OAA06978@relay.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.38 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to David E. O'Brien: > all the open files, or such that a user can only see their own open files > (for privacy and security purposes). > > I'm leaning on using the security option as a default. Opinions? Security option of course. Intrepid sysadmins can always grab the last sources (you took 3.69 didn't you ?) and recompile without the define. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #17: Fri Aug 2 20:40:17 MET DST 1996